From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 01 10:10:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17684 invoked by uid 6000); 1 May 1999 10:10:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 17673 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 10:10:15 -0000 Received: from law2-f55.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.55) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 10:10:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 31517 invoked by uid 0); 1 May 1999 10:10:30 -0000 Message-ID: <19990501101030.31516.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.142.33.183 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 01 May 1999 03:10:29 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.142.33.183] From: "Sharalee Baumgarner" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: question for you... Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 03:10:29 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_115b34b1_32a2ff07$30ac66af" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_115b34b1_32a2ff07$30ac66af Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_1bf721dd_32a2ff07$30ac66af" ------=_NextPart_001_1bf721dd_32a2ff07$30ac66af Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Hi, this is Sharalee and I've been watching you people chat for a couple days now and decided it's my turn. I didn't even know I was signed up for this, but now that I do, I guess it's cool, other than the fact that I use hotmail and it takes forever to read ALL these emails. I'm also on Godsmack fan group so it's kinda the same, but different topics. I love raves, etc. 4th of July there's gonna be a fat rave in Sac that I'm goin to. I live 30 north of Sac in Auburn. My bro lives in Berkeley. Does anyone know of this small awsome rave coming up next Sat in Sac? Cuz I heard it's sposed to be free cuz last time it was put on it got busted, or otherwise it's gonna be five bucks. All well, that's helsa cheap... Keep me posted on these Sac raves please. Thanks... Always a raver, Sharalee.... ------=_NextPart_001_1bf721dd_32a2ff07$30ac66af Content-type: text/html
                 
    Hi, this is Sharalee and I've been watching you people chat for a couple days now and decided it's my turn.  I didn't even know I was signed up for this, but now that I do, I guess it's cool, other than the fact that I use hotmail and it takes forever to read ALL these emails.  I'm also on Godsmack fan group so it's kinda the same, but different topics.  I love raves, etc.  4th of July there's gonna be a fat rave in Sac that I'm goin to.  I live 30 north of Sac in Auburn.  My bro lives in Berkeley.  Does anyone know of this small awsome rave coming up next Sat in Sac?  Cuz I heard it's sposed to be free cuz last time it was put on it got busted, or otherwise it's gonna be five bucks.  All well, that's helsa cheap...  Keep me posted on these Sac raves please. Thanks... Always a raver, Sharalee....

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SMTP; 1 May 1999 17:38:30 -0000 Received: from yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.29.227]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA20738 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 10:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990501102945.00a171a0@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: case@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 10:29:49 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: josh sorkin Subject: BSP: Outer Space (again!) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk THE FINAL COUNTDOWN HAS BEGUN. HYPERDRIVE ACTIVATED. COURSE SET FOR 2600 RIDGE ROAD IN BERKELEY. TONIGHT, MAY 1, 1999999999 Cloyne Court Presents: OUTER SPACE a three-room journey to the farthest reaches of the universe. Room 1: Warp Zone 725 (Kuang Mark, XI) Eli B. (Sabotage) gEoff ;) (Stargaze Family SF) Ryan Christopher M.A.K. Audio transmission by Math Sound Workshop. Visual contact by Math Sound and Kuang Mark XI. Room 2: Neutral Zone Optic (Isolate Records) Skye (Stargaze Family SF) Ithur (h.o.d.s.) Dave Brown (Potwash of Love) Blacklight Dave (Illumin8 Records) Sonic alignment by Stuff. Room 3: Zero Gravity Rock n' Roll The Paul Moody Experience The Cuts The Subtonix The Red Stars The Knockups District 17 8pm - 1am. $4. 18+ or Cal ID. 100% secure East Bay location. Free refreshments. Navigational Instructions: (415) 267-3930 ------------------------------- "i scream so much. you know what i mean. this electric stream. and my tears in league with the wires and energy and my machine." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 01 17:50:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7522 invoked by uid 6000); 1 May 1999 17:50:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 7495 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 17:50:05 -0000 Received: from m16.boston.juno.com (205.231.101.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 17:50:05 -0000 Received: (from trigometric@juno.com) by m16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D9J5U7LY; Sat, 01 May 1999 13:49:38 EDT To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 20:11:57 -0700 Subject: Late Underworld Perspective. Message-ID: <19990425.201204.2878.0.Trigometric@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-18 From: Spiral of Evolution Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Great show. Sat blunt headed in the back in the seats and had an EXCELLENT time. I guess you can sum up the intensity of the show in these three beautiful tracks that were played. Dark and Long -- Darktrain mix --- last song at the end of the show. Cowgirl King of Snake Great concert, had a blast, and I didn't see the Jedi Bitch. Oh well. C Ya'll Triad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All times being relative; what time does Munich arrive at this train? --Nietzche or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 01 17:57:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11213 invoked by uid 6000); 1 May 1999 17:57:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 11205 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 17:57:21 -0000 Received: from linex1.linex.com (HELO relay.linex.net) (199.4.98.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 17:57:21 -0000 Received: from linex4.linex.com (linex4.linex.com [199.4.98.14]) by relay.linex.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA23889; Sat, 1 May 1999 10:57:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linex.linex.com by linex4.linex.com (NX5.67c/NX3.0S) id AA29207; Sat, 1 May 99 10:57:18 -0700 Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 10:57:16 -0700 (PDT) From: aminita To: "Niels P. Mayer" Cc: San FranDisco Ravers List Subject: sunshine daydream! Re: dearth of outdoor daytime parties? In-Reply-To: <199905010356.UAA08933@mail.netwiz.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk you wanna party this sunday i have the perfect solution........ S U N S H I N E D A Y D R E A M this sunday 2pm- 2am 715 harrison onionz, joeski, john howard mark farina, riddler, moses, adnan star eyes, tik tak, miss E, abstract, arc angel gabe real, mc angel and jamalski rockin the day away come out and rage this sunday with mEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! shira aka aminita On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Niels P. Mayer wrote: > > Next sunset isn't for over 2weeks... Where's da daytime party with the > mad-fresh funky-fried spinning and dancing? :-) > > PS: when all the DJ's are playing off of Rio-Like didgital dex, are people > still going to say "who's spinning?" ?? Or will they say who is performing > interleaved sequential accesses with low CAS2 latency?? Enquiring people > want to know.... > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << > >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 01 19:33:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18286 invoked by uid 6000); 1 May 1999 19:33:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 18270 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 19:33:52 -0000 Received: from mail-gw.pacbell.net (206.13.28.25) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 19:33:52 -0000 Received: from pacbell.net (ppp-206-170-1-167.snfc21.pacbell.net [206.170.1.167]) by mail-gw.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with ESMTP id MAA18643; Sat, 1 May 1999 12:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <372B57FD.411A52F3@pacbell.net> Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 12:37:35 -0700 From: dj flux Reply-To: djflux@pacbell.net Organization: b.a.s.s. kru/compound records X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, breaks@xmission.com Subject: nrr: business space available Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hi, starting june 1st i'll have approximately 1500 sq ft of space in an office building available for monthly lease. the total amount of space in the building is 2500 sq ft, shared by a mixed tape distribution company, a music studio, a couple of drum 'n bass oriented humans, and possibly your company. the building is zoned commercial, rent would be $700/month, and the location is around 24th & mission in san francisco. the floor gets lots of light and is in a quiet alley off 24th st. preferrable hours of operation would be morning-early evening. we're looking for something electronic music oriented (like a record label) or an internet company, possibly. throwing parties in it is NOT a possibility! If interested please call 415-289-6734 and leave a message for evan. thanks! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 01 19:47:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22371 invoked by uid 6000); 1 May 1999 19:47:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 22140 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 19:47:35 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 19:47:35 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com (4530) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPGAa02288; Sat, 1 May 1999 15:47:02 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: <599f0d16.245cb435@aol.com> Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 15:47:01 EDT Subject: [crosslisted] ENLiGHTENED! To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org, sacraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Alrighty where should I begin... Finding a ride.. not an easy task but I HAD to go to this party! With a little sweet talking and flat out begging- SCORE i find a ride! (we lub you paul!-- Dance monkey boy! Dance!) We drive all over sac getting water/ and JESSICA (BTW this was her first ever party) Drive to the bay. Call voice mail for directions .. none yet 10:30 pm Get food, eat... call voice mail for directions...none yet 11:30pm drive to/around S.F. get change from gas station... call voice mail for directions... none yet...12:30am Bored and remembering that someone had said that last time this party was in Daly City or something.. drive to Daly City.. bored and NOT wanting to go home WE decided to call one more time... (many quarters later) and FINALLY get directions 1:15 am Turns out we are but 5 mins from the place.. aren't we the lucky bunnies! Hop fences, run across streets, go around gates.. walk behind some horse ranch, go under fence...(lose friend down in the ocean) Run off through some bouncy iceplant type foliage (don't ask), pass smelly assed horses, realize were in some deceased golf course, finally after what seems forever we hear the faint sounds of the bass growing louder and louder! Running to the Eminating sounds we come across the best lil shin dig.. I've experienced to date! All i can say was that this party was worth the wait. I saw people I knew and didn't, danced, ran around with wreckless abandon, and had much fun. Massive Thanks to the NBC crew :) I'm tired... and hungry... so I'm out <3 amber R & Jess --I will never bad mouth port-o-potties again... Nothing like pissing in a bush!!! :) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 01 21:06:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11192 invoked by uid 6000); 1 May 1999 21:06:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 11182 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 21:06:31 -0000 Received: from sos87.mry.redshift.com (HELO neptune.log) (209.54.206.87) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 21:06:31 -0000 Received: from pm4-102.mry.redshift.com by neptune.log with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id J63CRXZG; Sat, 1 May 1999 14:04:37 -0700 Message-ID: <002a01be9416$765006a0$66c9cccf@soscom.com> From: "Susan L. Gwartney" To: "SFRaves" Subject: honey Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 14:06:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01BE93DB.C96AE7A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01BE93DB.C96AE7A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable one of the best parties i've ever been to! the location, sound, = lighting, and decorations were fantastic... affordable tickets, free = fruit and water. i had a great time. this was my first time hearing = amber spin--your set was amazing girl! i caught a little bit of the = jungle going on outside and have to say djs hak and siphon got it going = on! i met lots of cool peeps and my girlfriend anne marie (it was her = first party) had a blast too. thanks to everyone who was involved with = making honey such a positive experience, hope to see more parties come = out of this crew. much love =3D)sooz =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01BE93DB.C96AE7A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
one of the best parties i've ever been=20 to!   the location, sound, lighting, and decorations were = fantastic...=20 affordable tickets, free fruit and water. i had a great time.  this = was my=20 first time hearing amber spin--your set was amazing girl! i caught = a little=20 bit of the jungle going on outside and have to say djs hak and = siphon got=20 it going on!  i met lots of cool peeps and my girlfriend anne marie = (it was=20 her first party) had a blast too.  thanks to everyone who was = involved with=20 making honey such a positive experience, hope to see more parties come = out of=20 this crew.
 
much love
=3D)sooz  =
------=_NextPart_000_0027_01BE93DB.C96AE7A0-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 01 21:23:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14992 invoked by uid 6000); 1 May 1999 21:23:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 14981 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 21:23:08 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 21:23:08 -0000 Received: from Fiercefigs@aol.com (4529) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vXIUa07094 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 17:22:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Fiercefigs@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 17:22:24 EDT Subject: OHHH Honey;) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Wow what a cool party, and well, interesting location. Never before have I ever partied with so many cops before and not minded;) All I can say is Drone was the sshit!! He was the guy outside from Germany spinning some of the best frieken jungle and D&B I've ever heard!!!!!! I mean it! Hak and Siphon Kicked down some good beats.though I was sad the rest of the junglists were cut off bye the end of the night due to circumstances. The Visuals by vibration were incredible, the lighting too. People were dancin and prancin in all there glitter and glory, it was great. Thanks again to the Honey crew for making a memorable evening I had a great time. Luv and craziness Fiona From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 01 21:27:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17286 invoked by uid 6000); 1 May 1999 21:27:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 17270 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 21:27:01 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 21:27:01 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D9KH9RHV; Sat, 01 May 1999 17:26:12 EDT To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 14:30:02 -0700 Subject: ride to disco biscuits? Message-ID: <19990501.143006.-51809.0.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 9-11 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Man, my luck so far has been shitty. Supposed to go to vorg last night, waiting for a page all day, finally get one that says my rides leaving. Thanks much. Thought I was riding up with ya Issac, but you're nowhere to be found. Shitty. Anyways, I hate to beg but I ain't too proud, so if anyone can help my weekend turn out not so shitty, cause I really wanna go to this party and it feels like forever (k since harmony) since i've danced, please page me up or call me. I live in San Jo, but I could meet up with someone by taking bart or whatever. My voice mail: 408-229-5992, my house #258-6025. Please call rather than email me, tho I'm sure I'll end up checking this again. Hope somebody can help me out. Peace, Theresa or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 01 22:21:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3749 invoked by uid 6000); 1 May 1999 22:21:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 3740 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 22:21:21 -0000 Received: from web805.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 22:21:21 -0000 Message-ID: <19990501222537.334.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.163.204.77] by web805.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 01 May 1999 15:25:37 PDT Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 15:25:37 -0700 (PDT) From: loic comolli Subject: NRR - Intimidation Don II mixer for sale To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hello all, gotta a mixer to sale. it's an Intimidation Don II, with the silver finish. it has kill switches, 2 channels input, one mic channel, bpm monitor, transform buttons, pan button for each channel. made in uk. going at $350. reply privately or call bone @ 415-452-9195. thanx. loic From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 01 23:23:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21013 invoked by uid 6000); 1 May 1999 23:23:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 20714 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 23:23:28 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 23:23:28 -0000 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA27145; Sat, 1 May 1999 16:23:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 16:23:16 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-Sender: andy@atari To: "Susan L. Gwartney" cc: SFRaves Subject: Re: honey In-Reply-To: <002a01be9416$765006a0$66c9cccf@soscom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 1 May 1999, Susan L. Gwartney wrote: -&e->one of the best parties i've ever been to! the location, sound, -&e->lighting, and decorations were fantastic... affordable tickets, free -&e->fruit and water. i had a great time. this was my first time hearing -&e->amber spin--your set was amazing girl! i caught a little bit of the -&e->jungle going on outside and have to say djs hak and siphon got it -&e->going on! i met lots of cool peeps and my girlfriend anne marie (it -&e->was her first party) had a blast too. thanks to everyone who was -&e->involved with making honey such a positive experience, hope to see -&e->more parties come out of this crew. wORD!! I loved the music all around, dug that space (basketballs hoops = vibe), everybody seemed pretty well intentioned... The crowd was great, although not your every weekend ravers (I got two requests during my set, one for hip hop, the other to play faster). I was pleasantly surprised to hear so much techno. Not that there's a problem with trance or house or anything for that matter, but I am allowed my preferences. :) The lights were doing realy well (the space was much larger than I expected) filling the room with a sense of raviness, and the crew did a good job making the most out of two small sound systems and some tastefully placed banners. The door policy was cool, and although I usually have a SEVERE aversion to cops at parties, the officers were VERY pleasant and didn't dish out any power trip stuff that I saw. Big Bonuses: I didn't have to do sound!!! I had fun playing my stuff (that set being dedicated to Shanene' and Amber!!!)! CF and Viberation in da house! Faces I haven't seen in forever (nice set Jeph). Met Joaqman, who played a groovin mostly tribal flavored set that I got loopy to... met Bobby. Whaa Points: The drive home from Monterey was quite a challenge after getting used to waking up early all this week. In short, Honey was sweet. Tonight's mission, disco biscuits (if I go out at all). AndyW From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 00:12:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3158 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 00:12:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 3150 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 00:12:11 -0000 Received: from law2-f100.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.100) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 00:12:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 50699 invoked by uid 0); 2 May 1999 00:11:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990502001144.50698.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.149.167.15 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 01 May 1999 17:11:43 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.149.167.15] From: "didu hearthat" To: aminita@linex.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: BSP and THANX! SUNSHINE DAYDREAM Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 17:11:43 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just another reminder of what's up this weekend... and thanks to aminita (shira) for giving the shout out...please come say hi as i sing my lil heart out! :D this sunday 5/2/99 Uniting Souls presents a daytime gathering ********************** SUNSHINE DAYDREAM ********************** 2pm - 2am 715 harrison @ 3rd Street FEATURING ---------> onionz and joeski (4 hours baby)* john howard * mark farina * riddler* moses* adnan star eyes* tik tak * miss E * abstract * arc angel gabe real * jamalski * mc angel <--- woohoo! :D "come celebrate life...expressions through different forms of music and dance...uniting we grow, and so does the love we put out there." Also tonight! SATURDAY...check out ANDY SMITH, DJ for Portishead... Justice League 628 Divisadero @ Hayes call 415.289.2038 for more info HOUSEPITALITY ... 78 Minna (rico's) ... with DJs (Upstairs) Jonene, Jason Henry, DJ Riddler (Downstairs) DJ Push, Dj Loki, DJ Lexxus call 415.273.5449 /510.273.2493 for more info... YAY! and tonight please come say hi and share a hug...shannon and i are gonna go to the big old ravey-ness in oaktown ACID BREAKS thuhreeee! whhoohoo. dude, i haven't been to hegenberger helper since love affair! wowee. big orange curly wigged madness. hmm, maybe blue tonight. ******************************************************************** BY THE WAY!(there will be many more reminders...but here's the first) Eklektik...this thursday...5/6/99... Get ready for CO3...( dude, this is so simpsons...remember GABBO!?? ha!) peace and abundant love, rashida (mc angel) p.s. last night's bassment (1015 folsom) rocked again! double a and twist were all i got to see and they were rocking it. they played some 94 hardcore shit... i could not have been happier (well maybe if senor duh had been there to share it with...) it's great to hear dj's going back to that stuff. it's cool to hear how jungle has evolved. p.p.s name this sample: original or main tune it's sampled in: "Baby, Baby, Baby all i need in this world is you." thanks skylar and kemi. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 00:22:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8289 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 00:22:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 8255 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 00:22:12 -0000 Received: from wya-oe10.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.75) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 00:22:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 57110 invoked by uid 0); 2 May 1999 00:21:49 -0000 Message-ID: <19990502002149.57108.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.72.4.81 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 01 May 1999 17:21:48 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.72.4.81] From: "David Ramirez" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: jungle-life & bass kru Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 17:21:48 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk anyone else heard of this?.. jungle-life crew vs bass kru??.. well griff from jungle life told me about it at daybreakz and i just heard about it on kzsu 90.1.. this is gonna be PHAT!!.. 2 sic kru's.. jus goin off!!.. along wit MC Jamalski!!.. i dunno when this gonna happen thoo.. guess jus tune into kzsu stanford 90.1.. its gonna be durrin tha day thoo.. something like a BBQ they said.. well laaate.. david.. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 00:25:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9907 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 00:25:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 9893 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 00:25:17 -0000 Received: from web804.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 00:25:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990502002957.3808.rocketmail@web804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.188.198.51] by web804.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 01 May 1999 17:29:57 PDT Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 17:29:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: OHHH Honey;) To: Fiercefigs@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Its true, drone is one amazing dj. For those who missed his set at the party, im so sorry, the music he spun was amazing, including some different sounds, refreshing from the norm. I really, really, enjoyed amber also, I walked inside expecting to pick up a water, and ended up captured by the music she was playing. I loved andys techno, you guys, its just sooo nice to hear different types of music, i wish there was more musical variety like this party had more often. Plus, its sooo fun to dance to :)There was good music all night long, it was different, i could actually dance wherever i went, no problem. oh yeah around 3am-no more drum and bass music, that was a downer, i always like to bring the mornin in with those lovely beats, oh well :) i had fun, Jessica --- Fiercefigs@aol.com wrote: > Wow what a cool party, and well, interesting > location. Never before have I > ever partied with so many cops before and not > minded;) > > All I can say is Drone was the sshit!! He was the > guy outside from Germany > spinning some of the best frieken jungle and D&B > I've ever heard!!!!!! I mean > it! Hak and Siphon Kicked down some good > beats.though I was sad the rest of > the junglists were cut off bye the end of the night > due to circumstances. > The Visuals by vibration were incredible, the > lighting too. People were > dancin and prancin in all there glitter and glory, > it was great. Thanks again > to the Honey crew for making a memorable evening I > had a great time. > Luv and craziness > Fiona > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 01:15:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23838 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 01:15:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 23829 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 01:15:10 -0000 Received: from f42.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.53) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 01:15:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 59655 invoked by uid 0); 2 May 1999 01:17:47 -0000 Message-ID: <19990502011746.59654.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.85.166.74 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 01 May 1999 18:17:46 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.85.166.74] From: "Wayne Radinsky" To: thatpisces@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: opening doors for people Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 18:17:46 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Glad you are feeling better... Yay :) Hey, want to know something about MTV? "MTV" actually stands for "Music TeleVision". The original concept was that they would play only music videos. Pretty hard to imagine today, huh? This was way back in the olden days, a long, long, time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... Wayne -- Get paid to watch ads: http://alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=ALZ893 ---------- >From: Jess ica >To: Wayne Radinsky , sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: NRR: opening doors for people >Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:45:54 -0700 (PDT) > > >Hey Jess are you feeling better? I think I saw a > >post a while back where you were sick and watching MTV >too much. > >I am feeling great!!!!! I am feeling so great i dont know what to do >with myself. I actually had some kind of tonsilitis crap i think it >was strep throat. I drank a lot of tea while I was sick, and got rid >of all the awful toxins, also try royal jelly it works well, it makes >me happy and smiley, even when i was feeling crappy. live enzymes >dancing around in my throat. But I am so over all of that sick stuff, >it has A LOT to do with the mind, so try and get it off the mind, and >watch it slowly disapear. and dont, whatever you do, watch MTV... > >Jessica >ready to parte' at honey tonight, ready to party and dance and smile, >and talk and be human this weekend YEAH! > >--- Wayne Radinsky wrote: > > > > So I get up to go to the bathroom. And, ok the > > bathroom is in > > the hallway, and between the cubicles and the > > hallway there's > > a set of double doors. And as I'm approaching the > > doors, this > > woman comes through the doors from the other side, > > and she > > stops to hold the door open for me. The problem is, > > she holds > > it open like 3 inches. And I continue walking > > toward the door, > > thinking she'll realize this and just let go and > > keep walking, > > but she doesn't. I mean, I'd have to turn into be > > one of > > those life-sized cardboard posters of "star trek" > > characters > > to be able to fit through that tiny space. So I > > keep walking > > toward the door. And she just stands there, holding > > the door > > open this tiny amount. And as I get real close to > > the door, > > I give her one of those "hello" smiles. And go > > through the > > *other* door. What else was I supposed to do? > > Anyway, it's > > been a pretty exciting day here at work, now that > > this has > > happened. Who knows, maybe some other exciting > > event will > > occur this afternoon. I just had to share. > > > > So anyway, I'm not goin to anything this weekend, > > because > > I still have the awful cold I've had for the last 5 > > weeks. > > I can't rave when I'm sick, that will make the rave > > suck, even > > if it's cool. And I don't want to spread it around > > to everybody > > else. I think that's kind of impolite. I'm > > suffering from > > rave deprivation though. I gotta kick this thing, > > it's really > > annoying me. I've had 5 colds and the flu since > > Christmas. > > I had a cold over Christmas, too. This is just my > > year to get > > sick I guess... I don't know what the deal is. Ok > > I do know what > > the deal is, I started doing a lot more exercise > > (cardiokickboxing > > 4 days/week) and I'm not eating enough more food to > > handle it, so > > I get rundown and catch a cold all the time. And > > going to raves > > and hanging out in a hot sweaty warehouse with a few > > thousand people > > doesn't help. Hey Jess are you feeling better? I > > think I saw a > > post a while back where you were sick and watching > > MTV too much. > > > > Oh yeah, I gotta give mad congrats to my buddy Alex > > (Alknod) > > for landing a spinning gig! Way to go, pal!! When > > do I get > > that mixtape again?? :) > > > > Wayne > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 01:35:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29858 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 01:35:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 29626 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 01:35:02 -0000 Received: from x15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 01:35:02 -0000 Received: (from elias_smith@juno.com) by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D9KYGT3K; Sat, 01 May 1999 21:34:45 EDT To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 18:09:11 -0700 Subject: (NRR) Happy May-Day Message-ID: <19990501.180914.13446.0.Elias_Smith@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1 From: the town drunk Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello. Happy May-Day to you all. If you go outside tonight, it is the first night of the year you can see the Pleiadies star system. What joy! or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 02:03:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4343 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 02:03:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 4334 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 02:03:15 -0000 Received: from firstclass.monterey.edu (HELO mail.monterey.edu) (198.189.5.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 02:03:15 -0000 Message-id: Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 19:01:26 -0700 Subject: Honey/Colorblindl Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu (Robert Delarosa) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I just wanted to thank everyone who made the trek down to Monterey for this party. It was so stressful but so worth it. We tried our best to make the evening exceptional for you guys. I hope you enjoyed yourselves. Worst moment of the Night: Joaqman laying down a fat set while I am working my shift and not being able to dance. Best Moment of the night: The first record being spun at our party! Big thanks to Scott and Terry for helping us out so much. This would not have been possible without you guys. You are truly the best that this scene/culture has to offer. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 02:14:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7987 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 02:14:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 7977 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 02:14:25 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 02:14:25 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com (8058) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id uRBNa13012; Sat, 1 May 1999 22:12:42 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: <4413da68.245d0e9a@aol.com> Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 22:12:42 EDT Subject: Re: Do you know what I look like. . . . To: moda@trancefusion.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk tons of pix of me are up on my web page.. I'm too lazy to send one.. hehehe http://members.aol.com/BabETrance/Groovin.html Groovalicious! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 02:51:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17819 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 02:51:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 17810 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 02:51:01 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 02:51:01 -0000 Received: from KrylonPimp@aol.com (579) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vDTTa16144 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 22:50:19 -0400 (EDT) From: KrylonPimp@aol.com Message-ID: <389e02b1.245d176b@aol.com> Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 22:50:19 EDT Subject: Re: [crosslisted] ENLiGHTENED! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Wow. That party was fun. I went there extremely cracked out, and I still had a good time. NBC did everything right, aside from loosing the generator, but that was beyond their control. I wish I had enough energy to write more right now, but uhhh... I'm a complete zombie. So anyway, much props to the crew and everyone that showed up. -omenONE In a message dated 5/1/99 12:47:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, JUNGurlE@aol.com writes: << Alrighty where should I begin... Finding a ride.. not an easy task but I HAD to go to this party! With a little sweet talking and flat out begging- SCORE i find a ride! (we lub you paul!-- Dance monkey boy! Dance!) We drive all over sac getting water/ and JESSICA (BTW this was her first ever party) Drive to the bay. Call voice mail for directions .. none yet 10:30 pm Get food, eat... call voice mail for directions...none yet 11:30pm drive to/around S.F. get change from gas station... call voice mail for directions... none yet...12:30am Bored and remembering that someone had said that last time this party was in Daly City or something.. drive to Daly City.. bored and NOT wanting to go home WE decided to call one more time... (many quarters later) and FINALLY get directions 1:15 am Turns out we are but 5 mins from the place.. aren't we the lucky bunnies! Hop fences, run across streets, go around gates.. walk behind some horse ranch, go under fence...(lose friend down in the ocean) Run off through some bouncy iceplant type foliage (don't ask), pass smelly assed horses, realize were in some deceased golf course, finally after what seems forever we hear the faint sounds of the bass growing louder and louder! Running to the Eminating sounds we come across the best lil shin dig.. I've experienced to date! All i can say was that this party was worth the wait. I saw people I knew and didn't, danced, ran around with wreckless abandon, and had much fun. Massive Thanks to the NBC crew :) I'm tired... and hungry... so I'm out <3 amber R & Jess --I will never bad mouth port-o-potties again... Nothing like pissing in a bush!!! :) >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 04:59:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9804 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 04:59:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 9795 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 04:58:59 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 04:58:59 -0000 Received: from neserees.hip.berkeley.edu (neserees.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.40.23]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA05180 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 21:58:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 21:58:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905020458.VAA05180@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: neserees@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: "dj d." Subject: bsp.ManInTheMoonMemorial.05.30.99. Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thomas Trouble writes: As many of you are aware, the Trance & Jungle Factory recently threw a series of "Man in the Moon" parties and little did we know they were to become some of the greatest little vibe parties the SF trance scene has ever experienced, perhaps they will become the stuff legends are made of, who knows! We thought it would be appropriate to re-ignite that vibe in memory of the comeraderie we all felt on those nights not so long ago by bringing everybody back together at the same space to round off your Memorial weekend celebrations and to charge up your dancin' batteries for the "Man in the Moon Reunited" main event scheduled for July 10th. So we hope all our friends and supporters will join us for this smaller gathering to remember. info.415.248.2669. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 12:31:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20180 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 12:31:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 20169 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 12:31:31 -0000 Received: from mail2.acninc.net (38.201.2.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 12:31:31 -0000 Received: from fiveartists.com (ip118.san-francisco31.ca.pub-ip.psi.net) by mail2.acninc.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.2.1998.10.13.00.06) with ESMTP id <0FB300D0ZUP9EV@mail2.acninc.net> for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Sun, 2 May 1999 08:29:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 05:25:17 -0700 From: Anton Subject: Hi! & Vibe reviews... & then some =D To: SF Raves Message-id: <372C442B.43872051@fiveartists.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------D450E98A8D20298AA3CADA3D" X-Accept-Language: en Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --------------D450E98A8D20298AA3CADA3D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit heeeey all... Hi was-- well, the party itself was GREAT, reeeeeeeeely good vibes and i luved the location.. =-D cept the owner was a total bitch, I WANTED TO SEE THOMAS DAMNIT!! well, technically i DID see him since he just showed up at around 4:30 at 2nd & jackson with a box of flyers... oh well, there's always vorg. Anyway, i'm sort of upset about the way things turned out for vibe... the vibe wasn't that great... although i've never seen 2nd & jackson so clean and there was SOOOOOOO MUCH ROOM to dance... well, the party itself had a few bab vibers there. & it also for some reason just kinda gets me depressed when someone asks me if i'm on anything, and i say "no, i'm sober tonight." & then the response i get is "oh... sorry, that sucks." i think people are seriously losing the concept & the spirit. my friend got her backpack stolen & all that was in it... so thank u very much if you're reading this-- u just made someone very VERY sad, the money wasn't even really an issue, but if u get those pictures developed in the camera that you also decided to take, you'll find that u took it from some reeeeeeely happy people and i sincerely hope that karma takes a plunge on you. so yes, congratulations. N-E-WAYS... to end this on a NOT so negative note... i totally can't wait 4 vorg... i'm so sore right now though, i couldn't even put my arms up in the air anymore... but i danced mah little heart out & i hope all uv you who were there had a GREAT TIME too... ! =-D Luv, Purple Panduh ~ --------------D450E98A8D20298AA3CADA3D Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit heeeey all... Hi was-- well, the party itself was GREAT, reeeeeeeeely good vibes and i luved the location.. =-D  cept the owner was a total bitch, I WANTED TO SEE THOMAS DAMNIT!! well, technically i DID see him since he just showed up at around 4:30 at 2nd & jackson with a box of flyers...  oh well, there's always vorg.
Anyway, i'm sort of upset about the way things turned out for vibe... the vibe wasn't that great... although i've never seen 2nd & jackson so clean and there was SOOOOOOO MUCH ROOM to dance... well, the party itself had a few bab vibers there.  & it also for some reason just kinda gets me depressed when someone asks me if i'm on anything, and i say "no, i'm sober tonight." & then the response i get is "oh... sorry, that sucks."  i think people are seriously losing the concept & the spirit.  my friend got her backpack stolen & all that was in it... so thank u very much if you're reading this-- u just made someone very VERY sad, the money wasn't even really an issue, but if u get those pictures developed in the camera that you also decided to take, you'll find that u took it from some reeeeeeely happy people and i sincerely hope that karma takes a plunge on you.  so yes, congratulations.
N-E-WAYS... to end this on a NOT so negative note... i totally can't wait 4 vorg... i'm so sore right now though, i couldn't even put my arms up in the air anymore... but i danced mah little heart out & i hope all uv you who were there had a GREAT TIME too... !  =-D

Luv,  Purple Panduh ~ --------------D450E98A8D20298AA3CADA3D-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 14:07:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 887 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 14:07:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 878 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 14:07:50 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 14:07:50 -0000 Received: from BBoiBreks@aol.com (582) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vSFDa25653 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 10:06:43 -0400 (EDT) From: BBoiBreks@aol.com Message-ID: <40431f7b.245db5cc@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 10:06:04 EDT Subject: When is the next sunset? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk So I remember going to the first Sunset weeks ago, and I recollect that there was a sunset boat party about two weeks ago....but when exactly is the next sunset? the cR@ckEd poser bboibreks From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 14:29:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4873 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 14:29:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 4741 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 14:29:52 -0000 Received: from www.concourse.net (HELO mail.concourse.net) (209.63.66.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 14:29:52 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (209.63.66.71) by mail.concourse.net with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Sun, 2 May 1999 06:34:01 -0800 Message-ID: <372C60D1.ADF709D6@geocities.com> Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 07:27:30 -0700 From: Paul Sober X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sacraves@hyperreal.org" , SF Raves , "frequency-8@squinky.org" Subject: sigh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok everyone, i'm attempting to rebuild my icq and aol lists, so if you want to be there, my # is 2240302 on icq and my user name is psober on aol. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 14:38:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6365 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 14:38:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 6357 invoked by uid 233); 2 May 1999 14:38:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 4994 invoked by uid 228); 30 Apr 1999 05:33:30 -0000 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:33:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Karina Powers To: sfraves-calendar@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org cc: Karina Powers Subject: This Week's SFR Calendar for 04.29.99 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Following are some of my favorite sayings for: FOR THOSE WHO TAKE LIFE TOO SERIOUSLY 4. I just got lost in thought. It was unfamiliar territory. 7. I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe. 8. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you. 22. If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends? 28. If at first you don't succeed, destroy all the evidence that you tried. 42. You never really learn to swear until you learn to drive. 49. Plan to be spontaneous - tomorrow. 55. Don't take life seriously, it's only a temporary condition. Have a WONDERFUL weekend! I'll see you at the Full Moon and the Blue Room! ==================================================== What lies behind us karina@hyperreal.org and What lies before us are tiny matters When compared to What lies Within Us. -Oliver Wendell Holmes ==================================================== The SFR Calendar http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/sf/calendar/gencal.cgi _________________________________________________________________ Friday, April 30th - Petit La Croix Featuring:, Group Petit La Croix: Folkloric Voudou - A Haitian Dance Company, CCAC Interior Architecture Students. See the Museum's Roche and Dinkeloo designed Modernist building transformed by CCAC students into a performance space for Group Petit La >Croix dance company, and explore Voudou with Hatian art expert Susan Tselos. Part of OMCA's California Fusion Culture Series, made possible with generous support from the Oakland Museum Women's Board. One block from Lake Merritt BART. No host bar and snacks. 7pm-10 pm, . Admission: $5 OMCA members & CCAC Students with ID, $7 General. Oakland Museum of California, 10th and Oak Streets. 510.238.6556 Friday, April 30th - FULL MOON PARTY Davie, Robert, Dennis (thc), Flash (SRC), Rodney, Dave & Magail , Dijaredo, Drum and Fire, 530.893.2005. The Party will be held 5 miles outside of Chico. We will be doing a Maypole dance to heal this World we live on. We hope you can join Funky Baby's Family. 11pm -sunrise, All ages. 916.381.8545 Friday, April 30th - Foundation presents FIRST FLOOR Insurgent techno featuring:, dj99!, arcane Alchemy, loopy, the kidd.. outside. Free. 415.339.8099 Friday, April 30th - COURAGE House Music: , Mark Farina, Iz, Andy Caldwell, Sharon Buck, Ray Fales, Downtempo: , Laron, PBS, Mei-Lwun, Saga. In Honour of Christopher Scott Jewkes. A benefit for the California AIDS Ride 6, to bring AIDS awareness & hope into our communities. 9PM-2AM, 21+. $10 donation. Storyville, 1751 Fulton, SF. Friday, April 30th - Full Moon Free Outdoor on the Beach John Howard, Rob Doten, DJ David Coleman, John Rodriguez , Eric Erickson, TJ, Guest TBA. Live: SenSei. call for info Outdoor Location. Free. http://www.SFHouse.com 415.339.8015 Friday, April 30th - V.O.R.G. Productions presents ***HI!*** (VORG pre-party) 2 ROOMS FILLED WITH, JERRY BONHAM (Spundae), MARS (Frequency 8), MYSTRE (Frequency 8), THOMAS TROUBLE (Trance and Jungle Factory,VORG), JUSTIN HALE (Simply Cosmic), RYAN WILBER (NBCHarmonics,VORG), ERIK BROWN (RebirthHarmonics), DJ D (Trance and Jungle Factory, VORG), ATOMIC DJ (VORG, BASS Records), ALIAS (Question Mark Productions), SUPREME-C (VORG). $12. 415.750.3100 Friday, April 30th - The Colorblind Collective and Theatre Now! presents Honey Mike Wilson, Drone, Meadow, Hak, Siphon, Mark Clark, Pengo, Leath, A.L.E.R., Ikon, Amber, Jeph, Andy W, Joaqman, Ryan Christopher. Monterey Bay Location Free Fruit-Water, Free Chai Brought to you by Nub Chai. Even though this is a benefit for Theatre Now!, Tix are going to be be $10 so we can all spend the evening together as a cohesive family bonded by the love of music! Tickets are limited so get them early at Solid Grooves in San Jose. 9pm-7am, . 408.682.3500 Saturday, May 1st - Uniting Souls presents Housepitality like we always do about this time in the attic: , Jonene (Stompy), Jason henry (Salivate), Dj Riddler? (resident), in the insect lounge:, Push (Future Breaks 90.3 FM), Lo-ki (Koncrete Jungle), Dj Lexxus!. Every 1st and 3rd Saturday of the Month. Join us for a night of intense house and jungle rhythms! 9pm-2am, $10. free B4 10. 415.273.5449 510.273.2493 Saturday, May 1st - Frisco Disco Ra-Soul, Galen, Laron, Ammon, J-Bird, John Pickett. Visuals by Satsi & sound by Renegade.Cross Street: Masonic Storyville, 1751 Fulton St, SF. Saturday, May 1st - The creators of Labyrinth of Lust...Cloyne Court presents Outer Space a three-room journey to the farthest reaches of the universe. Room 1: Warp Zone, 725 (Kuang Mark, XI), Eli B. (Sabotage), gEoff ;) (Stargaze Family SF), Ryan Christopher, M.A.K., Room 2: Neutral Zone, Optic (Isolate Records), Skye (Stargaze Family SF), Ithur (h.o.d.s.), Dave Brown (Potwash of Love), Blacklight Dave (Illumin8 Records), Room 3: Zero Gravity Rock n' Roll, The Paul Moody Experience, The Cuts, The Subtonix, The Red Stars, The Knockups, District 17. Audio transmission by Math Sound Workshop. Visual contact by Math Sound and Kuang Mark XI. Sonic alignment by Stuff. 100% secure East Bay location. Free refreshments. 8pm-1am, 18+, $4. 415.267.3930 Saturday, May 1st - l o v e w o r k s d a n c i n g presents a mayday birthday celebration for loveworks family member robnoxious for the love of may... deep grooves and sonic architecture: resident dj matt valenz, guardian: robnoxious, introducing dj iggy. btwn: 2nd / new mont. / mission . howard, s o m a these events are in partnership with the minna street gallery, now showing: l e n n i e m a c e ' s : 3 6 5 DAZE / ballpoint pen exhibit love / laughs / incense / flowers / candles / + the mightiest house music on earth. an audiosocial project implemented and monitored by the DDC. 9pm-. Minna Street Gallery, 111 minna street, SF. Saturday, May 1st - Blue Room First time U.S. Appearances - Techno/Trance Live acts from Germany and the UK, Montauk P. (Blue Room), Gabriel LeMar (Spirit Zone), Saffi Brothers (Blue Room), Rules of Hypothalamus (Blue Room), Techno/Trance DJ's:, Adam Ohana (Blue Room), Djaydee (Evolution/Gaia), San Francisco's Top and International Drum & Bass DJ's:, Siren (XLR8R/Bassment), Sage(Phunckateck), Double A & Twist (Dune Recordings Canada), Method One (Compound Records/Synthetics), Steven Tune(Nova Productions/Audible Colors), DownTempo Beats & Atmospheric Drum & Bassment DJ's:, Freaky Daum (Freaky Chakra) Kaos (Compound Records/Synthetics), Surreal (Blue Room), Anon (Blue Room). 21+ W/ID (please remember your ID's). Also Blue Room is planning an all ages event mid May Stay Tuned!!!) 10pm-7am, 21+. $15 @ the entry portal, $10 Before 11pm. 550 Barneveld, SF. 1.888.682.7666 Saturday, May 1st - Harmony productions and Harmonics Records presents ***DISCO BISCUITS*** (a theme in silver) Starring:, GREG SANDLER, ERIK BROWN, GIANNI, J-BOT, MAC, URN, Co-Starring:, RUSSEL G, SHOAM, R2 WITCO, ROACH, TOM-E, RANDOM. Free Glowsticks for people dressed in SILVER THEME! $50 GIFT CERTIFICATE to the BEST DRESSED DISCO KING AND QUEEN ***be there @ 1:30 am for the crowning of our Disco King and Queen!!! There are NO PRESALE tickets for this event. All tickets must be purchased at the map point which is Harmonics in Santa Rosa. We have a beautiful venue located in the North Bay and you don't want to miss this old school Disco style party!!! This is the first in a series of brand new Harmonics Records parties, so stay tuned... 408.486.9591 415.289.6788 Saturday, May 1st - Ghostribe Krew presents Acid Breaks 3: The 2 Year Anniversary, and 5 Year Ghostribe Reunion Mayday Celebration Ruff Beats, Breaks and Jungle! DJ STRYKE (Adrenalin Records Super Remixer and Producer), DJ GHOST and FRANK NITTY (Ghostribe Krew, on 4 turntables), MISS KNIGHT (Ghostribe Krew), JOEY MAZZOLA and DAVID GARCIA (House Nation, on 4 turntables), KWASHI and KEVIN KIND (on 4 turntables, Feel Good Family), TRIPNOTIX (Beat Down), RINSE and FLUX (B.A.S.S. Kru/Compound Records) , MC JAMALSKI (Ruff Neck/Reality, NYC), HAK and SIPHON (Urban Assault), JOSHUA JACOB (027), SIDEBURN SLIM (Diverse City), SPEK and DANJA (Ghostribe Krew), EVA (Raw Atmosphere), SAUCER and the Illustrious TOM KAT (Highlanders), RASTA CUE TIP (Brick, S.F.), T-SKI (M1 Productions), TOMMY MEYER, PHIL HOWARD. Complete with the original ::: Players Inc. Chill Zone ::: Sound by Xtreme Audio & Alien Nation Crew, Visuals by I-Candy, Lasers by UV-99, Lighting and Effects by Stim-U-Lights, Environment by Ghostribe Krew. ::: Limited, Discounted $20 Pre-Sale Tickets on sale now at ::: COMPOUND RECORDS, 6 Valencia St., SF, 415-864-8309, SOLID GROOVES, 2271 The Alameda, San Jose, 408-248-6399, MIXOLOGY, 1670 Mendocino Ave., Santa Rosa, 707-526-1230, ROCK ON, 1630 N. Texas St., Fairfield, 707-422-2080, TRANCE and JUNGLE FACTORY, 2575 Telegraph Ave., Berkeley, 510-704-9876, GHOSTRIBE, 2096 Merced St., San Leandro, 510-483-9862 or buy tickets online @ http://www.sfrecords.com Location: International 9PM-6AM, . Rave Center, 633 Hegenberger Road, Oakland. http://www.ghostribe.com Saturday, May 1st - Unit-E Tribe presents ENERGIZE randell (unit-e tribe / sac), wayne (unit-e tribe / field junkies), rick preston (glasgow underground rec/ san jose), tony (the gathering / moody rec / sf), sol (togetha / sac). 10pm-. sacramento. 916.810.4879 Saturday, May 1st - Radio-V.com presents May Day is Jay Day! Tom (Koinonea), Rob Rayle (Sacred Dance Society, Koinonea) , Tim (CCC). Join the Dance For Pot Party at the Million Marijuana March and Rally! Featuring: speakers, exhibits, live music, pot song-a-thon, Dance for Pot Party and the Pot Pride Parade at 4:20pm. Fun for all! Come out to San Francisco and dance for pot! Email High noon-5pm, . Civic Center Plaza, SF. http://www.drugpeace.org/mmm 415.971.3573 Saturday, May 1st - 420 Kidz presents Vibe Creation 2 Traxx (Chicago Soul Foundation), Justin Long (Chicago I.H.R.), Tyson Howell (Chicago 420 Kidz), Mike Dreben (Toronto Sonic Mind Record Live PA), Guido (L.A. Biohazard), Melanie (S.F. House Collective), Paucus (S.F 420 Kidz), Dj Alert (Iowa City Hoodlums U.S.A.), Mars vs. Mystre (S.F. F-8), Dyloot (S.F. skills), Happy Kid Marty vs. Happy Kid Ian (S.F. Happy Kids), Red Eyes (Chicago 420 Kidz) vs. Jeff Z (S.F. 420 Kidz), Bryan Lee (Global Energy Musik, SF/LA). 510.466.5695 415.364.1665 Sunday, May 2nd - Funktion celebrating the spring with deep house fusion Rafi, Jonathan. ...FREE ALL NIGHT (with a smile). 9pm-2am, Free. The Driftwood, 1313 Park St., Alameda. 510.539.3875 Sunday, May 2nd - Uniting Souls presents Sunshine Daydream... a daytime gathering "And as we let our own light shine...our presence automatically liberates others." - Nelson Mandela. TBA, 510.273.2493, Main Room: Special 4-hr set by Onionz and Joeski (NYC/Chocolate Factory), John Howard, Mark Farina (Om Records), Moses (SoundTextures), DJ Riddler (Housepitality), Adnan (Squeeze/Blue Room Nikita), Jungle Room: Arc Angel Gabe Real (PBS/Future Breaks crew), Abstract (Phunckateck), , Star Eyes (B.A.S.S. Kru), Tik-Tak (Ruffneck Reality), Miss E (Eklektic/Future Breaks FM 90.3), MC's Angel and Jamalski. Visuals by Spectrumega Media (L.A.). .2pm-2am, 21+, $15. $10 before 4 pm. 715 Harrison, SF. 415.273.5449 Wednesday, May 5th - FABULOUS FREAKY Art Show Opening A reception to meet the artists Alex Clausen and Sherry Koyama DJ Optimist spinning drum n bass.. In the Art Building at the UC Davis. Email 6pm-9pm, Free. Basement Gallery. 530.297.6163 Friday, May 7th - EARTH Main Room DJ's:, KJ, Ellen Ferrato, Mouse, Chip McClure, Groove Room:, Joseph Lee, Damon.. An all-night homoelectric party every first Friday. Incredible sound systems, multiple trippy environments plus hot boys & men. 415.705.0585 10pm-6am, $15. $8 before 11pm, FREE with non-US passport.. 550 Barneveld, SF. http://www.earthSF.com. Friday, May 7th - Kids-N-Corporated: Take Over The World Trance:, Tap (kids inc.), Happy Kid Ian (Happy Kids, SF), House:, Happy Kid Marty (Happy Kids, SF), Dollar (Ravin Mad), XL (Union), Mike (Stockton), Tino (Santa Cruz), Surge (Riders of the Storm), Dizzi, Happy Hardcore:, Indecent (US records), Will-E-Wonka (Union), MC Apollo, Smiles (Sac), Jungle:, Deception Tommy, More tba. $5 pre sale tix at F-8 (S.F.) 415.221.4142 Subsonic (Sac) 916.441.2775 Stuffed Pipe(Fresno). 559.490.7788 . 559.279.7457 559.921.3555 Friday, May 7th - Torque Productions presents Progression 1)House/Breaks:, Thomas Michael (Phatt Phunk Records, Roofless Productions; LA), James Christian (Caffiene collective, Nervous, Strictly Rythem Records; NYC), Ty Tek (Teknight Records, Basic Entertainment, Torque Resident;Denver CO), Satori C (Humble Souls, M.E.S.S., Basic Entertainment, Torque, Resident; Denver, CO), Matty B (Housewares; SF), Chris K (Chicago), Seannie (Seattle), DJ Torque (Torque Resident; Denver), Drum and Bass:, Rinse (SF B.A.S.S. Kru, Compound Records; SF), Flux (SF B.A.S.S. Kru, Compound Records; SF) , Jamalski (Ruffneck Reality; N.Y.C.), Push (Future Breaks, 90.3FM; SF), Satori C (Denver, CO) , Kaya (Live techstep P.A.,Torque Resident; Connecticut), Eva (Raw Atmosphere; SF), DJ Sharp (Torque Resident; SF), Misc. B (Moist Crew; SF), Kunoichi (Moist Crew; SF). Limited Presale Tickets at $17.00 available @ Housewares, SF; Compound Records, SF; In tha Mix, Sac; Solid Grooves, San Jose. 415.345.9668 Friday, May 7th - ...your monthly turn-on...The RhythMethod Gurlz got tha RHYTHM! Cold War, Little Mishka, Melanie, Amber. 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. Il Pirata, 16th St & Potrero, SF. http://www.bass-station.com/rm/ Saturday, May 8th - Psychofunkodiscodelic steady Rockin with dj's: Laron (Frisky Records), Felix the Dog (black diamond), Buck (Leaf Recordings), The Baroness (Sunburn/Sister), John Pickett(Frisky Records), Laird, Dimitri. Live: The x-tra action marching band. Visuals by Satsi 10:30pm-4am, 21+. Jelly's Pier 50. 415.273.1170 415.273.1170 Saturday, May 8th - The WONDERFUL WACKY WORLD OF FUNKY BABY The first of 4party's to benefit the BURNINGMAN PROJECT this September. 10pm-sunrise, $5. Zocolo room , 6th and Broadway, Chico. 916.381-8545 Saturday, May 8th - Skills presents a free party in Golden Gate Park Dyloot, Tom Slik, Radley, Mars, Mystre, 510.869.4601. all day, music from 1pm-6pm, free. http://www.elemental.nu/skills 415.437.4460 Saturday, May 8th - Forward Motion Productions presents SPREAD THE WORD A small family gathering with your DJs Dutch, Josh Shwab, Kwashi, Miah, The Riddler, Micron, Joe-Joe, Ric V, Jeff Taisch, Vince, , Juggernaut(live PA), plus special guests. space limited to 300 people. Leave message on voice mail for carpooling information http://www.forwardmotion.net 5pm-8am, . $5 presale tix @ Daddys(berk), In tha Mix(sac), and online at sfrecords.com . http://www.sfrecords.com/spread 415.364.1407 Saturday, May 8th - ***VORG*** 3 ROOMS FILLED WITH:, John Kelly (Funky Desert Breaks * Moonshine Records LA), Astral Matrix (o.o.b.e. Music SF) , Troy Roberts (Global Phases Seattle) , Mars & Mystre (Frequency 8) , Justin Hale (Simply Cosmic) , Thomas Trouble (Trance and Jungle Factory * Vorg), Greg Sandler (Harmony * Vorg), Dyloot (Skills * MHZ * HK), Tom Slik (T&J Factory * Skills), J-Bot (Harmonics), Gianni (Spundae * Harmonics), Zoran (Vorg), DJ D (T&J Factory * Vorg), Ryan Wilber (NBC * Harmonics * Vorg), Erik Brown (NBC * Harmonics), Atomic DJ (Vorg * BASS Records) , Diversion (Vorg) , Ariel-Cybana (Vorg) , Merlin (Vorg). Pre-sale @ Harmonics 707.571.8747, T&J Factory 510.704.9876, f-8 415.221.4142, Group 3 BASS Records 510.796.3570, Solid Grooves 408.248.6399, Music CD World 650.938.7555, Mixology 707.526.1230 - MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE TBA CALL OUR 24HR INFO LINE $20. 415.750.3100 Saturday, May 8th - Twelve Monkeys SF presents PHUNKSKOOL 2 Featuring some of the best up and coming DJs from all around the bay area., Sceduled to appear:, Dan Isaac, Dj Pat, Anton, Kid Mathis, Franklin of the 12 Monkeys, Plus special guests:, Vince (Double Down), Kwashi, Rick V. (In The Mix), and our friends Mike and Cadence.. This free outdoor gathering will be going down from noon till dark. Bring your day time nessecities and be discrete. 415.436.0714 Sunday, May 9th - Pulse Main Room DJ's:, Blackstone, Ellen, Front Room DJ's:, Trouble, Bud Chism, Chip McClure. A gay tribal fest with hot go-go boys and club kid dancers. A Primal Groove party! For more information, please e-mail: primalgrve@aol.com 3pm -11pm, . 2 guests for the price of 1 ($12/per couple) b/w 3 pm - 4:30 pm w/ flyer. $12 cover after 4:30. 1015 Folsom, SF. Wednesday, May 12nd - ESOTERIK Jungle Life Crew, Lo-Ki, Eva, DJ Massix. 9pm-5am, 18+, $5. Big Heart City, 836 Mission Street, SF. Wednesday, May 12nd - AUDIO PRESONIFICATIONS Esoteric research..... frisco d-formation news alert!!! LO-KI (One of the mad originators of konkrete jungle n.y.c.), EVA (representing housewares s.f. queen of the natural evolution of frisco drum n bass), DJ MASSIX (esoteric resident, massix's tactics are always, changing new direction). entrance : 339 Jesse St, SF. GET IN FOR FREE every Wednesday FOR EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by going to : SPARK 601 Eddy St @ Larkin at the BACKFLIP 21+ $4 dollars featuring SAN FRANCISCO's downtempo , jungle, earth vibes party on TUESDAYS and getting tix here on dates tue:4/6, 4/13, 4/21 only. 9pm-4am, 18+. BIG HEART CITY, 836 mission st , SF. Friday, May 14th - Inertia Three rooms of sound:, Hip Hop w/, Wisdom, Raw-B, House + Trance w/, Joshua George, Dutch, Chill Lounge w/, Addy, Joshua, Jacob. Free after hours with admission. $10 Limited presales available at: Housewarez on Haight. Cocomo, 650 Indiana @ Mariposa, SF. Saturday, May 15th - CloudFactory Fashion Show. Keep your ears to the underground for more information..... This is the official date for the Cloudfactory Design Collective Fashion Show. The CFDC is throwing a fabulous multimedia extravaganza, intended to showcase the formidable breadth and depth of talent that lies within the Cloudfactory Collective. The fashion show will be held from 7-9pm. The reception/party will be held from 9pm-3am. Fully permitted San Francisco locale. 7pm-3am, . Pre-sale tickets will soon be available. Saturday, May 15th - First Light Collective presents First Light one year anniversary DJ's in Room 1:, Mars Vs.Mystre, Happy Kid Ian Vs. Happy kid Marty, Greg Sandler Vs. AndyW, Macadio, Andrei Morant (Template Records UK), Room 2:, Hak Vs. Siphon, Rinse Vs. Flux, Protolab (Live PA), Micron. Sound By Xtreme Audio, Lasers By UV99. This is a permitted Event. Presales Go on sale 4/20/99 at: F-8, Solid Grooves, Harmonics and In the mix. 10pm-6am, . 415.646.0763 Friday, May 21st - static cling productions presents Faze Main Room: Oboro Records, Tracy, Tao, E.T.I. (compliments of Daddys Records), J-Bot (Harmony), Dj D (T & J Factory), Marty (XLR8R), Tom-E (Static Cling), Tecni (Static Cling), Jungle Room:, Turtle (threshold vibes), Wain (threshold vibes), Spie (threshold vibes), Datem (threshold vibes), Russell G (Dancehall Militia), Hip-Hop/Trip-Hop:, We have PHAT dj's all lined up for ya!. Presale tickets $10<--->At the door $12 w/can $15 w/out Tickets available at--> Daddys Records, T & J Factory, BPM, Compound Records, Mixology, and Harmonics. We also have a great space for you...A lazer tag arena!! Its located in Santa Rosa. 707.325.0340 Friday, May 21st - children of the sun presents and the journey continues.. Brad (Moontribe/LA), Beatseed (Journees/Seattle), Greg Sandler (harmony), andyW (viberation), Micron (viberation), Macadio (First Light) . As Always Free Fruit & Lemonade - Limited Capacity - Presale Tix Strongly Advised. We Love You All / Spread The Warmth. 415.835.3144 Friday, May 21st - Silly and XLR8R Magazine presents MAZE Bringing you the best in international tribal techno trance. Adam X (Sonic Groove, NY), D.A.V.E. the Drummer (Live, Liberator Crew, UK), Maya 13/Deaks, Henrik Rosdahl, Mystrë, Charlotte the Baroness, Push, Justi. Every 3rd Friday of the month. 10pm-6am, 21+, $10. free b4 10:30. 550 Barneveld St., SF. 415.263.6750 Friday, May 21st - Da Roc entertainment presents ETERNAL PARADISE TOONS Quiet House Productions, REMEDY dmc finalist/B92.9/FM90.5, JV VALASCO da Roc entert., DJ PAPI groove night club , NOTORIOUS NORM City nights guest DJ - DJ CASUAL Rebel entert., DJ HEEBEE Club X guest DJ. US Dream Girls oil wrestle live on stage! Hard Body contest! FSA dance squad presents Haluan live on stage! It's also the beads night! 4 Go-Go cages, 2 stages. $170 thousand dollars worth of sound and lights including lasers. ALL AGES room &18+ room Fully stocked bar for those who are 21+. Freaky attire suggested. $15. 831.429.7779 Saturday, May 22nd - small gathering Indoor event, an evening of jungle, trance and sick beats Mickey, Anakin, Sonic (aka Maize). More info on line up will be released later. $12. 415.449.7101 Saturday, May 22nd - l o v e w o r k s d a n c i n g presents " nature, rhythm, cloud, and sky " [ a celebration of the continuous beat of life ] for the love of may... featuring guest dj arkay performing an extended opening set, deep grooves and sonic architecture: resident dj matt valenz, guardian: robnoxious. btwn: 2nd / new mont. / mission . howard, s o m a these events are in partnership with the minna street gallery, now showing: l e n n i e m a c e ' s : 3 6 5 DAZE / ballpoint pen exhibit love / laughs / incense / flowers / candles / + the mightiest house music on earth. an audiosocial project implemented and monitored by the DDC. 9pm -. Minna Street Gallery, 111 minna street , SF . Saturday, May 22nd - We Got The Funk Bone (Detriot), Dj Dan (SF), Charles Feelgood (MD), Onionz (NY), Tony, Simon, Dan Isaac, Dj Pat, Anton, Dee, The Hitmen, Jonene (Stompy), Dj Jasen (LA), Barry Eves with MC JAMALSKI, KID MATHIS, Franklin,. Live: ETI. For Presale TIckets call Solid Grooves 408.248.6399 in San Jose, Primal Records (2420 Parker, Berkeley) 510.548.8511, BPM Music Factory (573 Hayes, SF) 415.487.8680, and Clear Music 415.437.1578. 415.436.0714 a very special guest MC Brittany Andrews Saturday, May 22nd - The Trance & Jungle Factory presents **** Trance and Jungle Factory 2 Year Anniversary!!! **** Servicing the scene for 2 years with many more to follow!!! TBA, Thomas Trouble (T&J Factory), DJ D (T&J Factory), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Productions, Quest), Tom Slik (Skills), Dyloot (Skills, MHz), Uphonic (e.t.a.), Tracer (sf ug), Joaqman (T&J Factory, 5 Families), Amber (bay area ug), Eric Brown (Rebirth, Harmonics), Greg Sandler (Harmony, Harmonics), Rinse (Compound Records, B.A.S.S. Kru), Flux (Compound Records, B.A.S.S. Kru), MC Jamalski (Compound Records, B.A.S.S. Kru), Vertigo (bay area ug), Radley (MHz, Skills), Micron (Viberation), Andy W (Viberation). Pre-sale tix available through Frequency-8 (S.F.), Harmonics (Santa Rosa), Solid Grooves (San Jose) and the T&J Factory (Berkeley). Limited capacity so make sure you purchase a pre-sale to ensure your spot! Don't miss our celebration of the growing success of the trance and jungle scene. 415.248.2669 Friday, May 28th - Star*burst Productions presents Star*burst Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records), Greg Sandler (Harmony/Harmonics), Joe Lanzon (Bagok Tribe), Jeyson (Davis Funky Family), Dragn'fly (Epiphany), Hoth (Positive Theory). 100% fully permitted new Sacramento location. Proceeds to benefit the Sacramento Food Bank. Presale Tickets can be purchased @ In Tha Mix and Imagine Music in Sac. and Primal in Berzerkeley... $5 w/ a canned food item, $7 w/o. 916.815.4337 Friday, May 28th - May 31st - Lightseed Collective presents Butterfly A Lightseed Campout in praise of Julia Butterfly Hill in honor of Luna More info to be announced... http://www.sfrecords.com/lightseed/ Saturday, May 29th - NOMAD INTERACTIVE presents ORIGIN-MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND GATHERING. MORE TBA.. 415.675.5605 510.433.9933 408.278.5553 916.554.0554 Saturday, May 29th - Clockwork Eventz presents METROPOLIS 7 Underground dance districts of diversity METRODOME:, Donald Glaude, Terry Mullan, DJ Rktech, Hipp-E, Jeno, Tony, The ELECTRIC KINGDOM:, Charlotte The Baroness, DJ Liquid, DJ Ghost, Miss Knight, J-Boogie, Deep in the GARNET KONKRETE JUNGLE:, R.A.W. w/ MC?, Rinse & Flux w/MC Jamalski, U.F.O., Aaron V., DJ Dose, The Infamous Highlanders, FUNKYTOWN: Funky Beat's 4 yr anniversary:, Simon, DJ Doubt, DJ Matthew, Paucus, David vs.Joey Mazzola on 4, Jasen C., SECTOR 2:, Jon Williams, DRC, Chris Jackson, St. John, J-Bot, Charly Fusion, DJ Xolotyl, The Comfort, Room:, Deepfog, Boomerang, Triad, Reggae Lounge: come hang and feel da Irie vibes inside our reggae lounge. Prepare for the awakening!!! A night of bad ass talent, mixing through the most intense beats to date!!! A night of explosive performances, that will push the boundaries of the underground mentality!!! A night that will be out of control, filled with the amazement of an interactive multimedia extravaganza. LUMATECH lighting will be throwing down the fattest lighting show that nobody has ever seen before!! The Royal Rumble: mark wayne,jk sound,xtreme audio We will also be celebrating Funky Beats 4 year anniversary!!! HIEROGLYPHICS,THE PHARCYDE. Live p.a. Sound Of Light. 408.747.7742 415.721.4713 510.733.1140 916.565.6560 Sunday, May 30th - Memorial Day Full Moon Free Outdoor on the Beach Rob Doten, John Rodriguez, TJ, Eric Erickson, David Coleman, en-Sei, plus guest TBA. Live: (live). http://www.SFHouse.com 415.339.8015 Sunday, May 30th - EUROTIKA 3 Biohazard productions-L.A..(GABE &THEE-O), F-8-S.F.(MYSTRE), ANTHONY S(THE TRIBE), D!ZZ!(Fresno). . Modesto Centre Plaza,, Modesto. 209.236.6846 415.221.4142 Friday, June 4th - Rendezvous (ran da voo) A Beautiful San Francisco Trance Family Gathering! Lets Rendezvous all night with lots of love and music. See you there! 2 Rooms that will feature:, Thomas Trouble (Trance & Jungle Factory), DJ "D" (T&J Factory), Mars (Frequency 8), Mystre (F-8), Phat Pat (all the way from the U.K.), Amber (Bay Area UG), Vertigo, Tracer (San Francisco UG), Uphonic (E.T.A.), Joaqman (T&J Factory), Saucee (S.F.), Introducing GAZER! (San Jose). This is a must attend party with lots to remember! Limited Pre-Sale Tickets go on sale May 10th for Only $19. Door will be $22, this party will take place at awesome facility but we do recommend Pre-Sale 13-at the Following Locations: Berkeley T&J Factory (510)704-9876, Santa Rosa Harmonics (707)571-8747 San Fran Frequency 8 (415)441-4142, Modesto Motion Music (209)577-6965 San Jose Solid Grooves (408)248-6399, Hayward Twilight Zone (510)538-7945. 415.721.3863 Friday, June 4th - Bliss DJ's House: , Johnny Fiasco (Chicago), Terry Mullan (CHicago) and Halo (Chicago) on 4 decks, Steve Loria (L.A.) and Tony on 4 decks, Donald Glaude (Seattle), Hippie (Denver), Rick V. and Dizzy on 4 decks, Karizma, Vince, Paul Gordon, Markus, Sugar D., Bryen, And IN THE JUNGLE ROOM:, Danny tha WIldchild (Chicago) and Phantom 45 (Chicago) on 4 decks, Dara (N.Y.), Flux w/ Jamalski, Presha and Stompa on 4, B-SIde, Ivry, Rif.... Held @ Cal Expo on in buildings A and B....All 3 rooms of sound will be covered by Mark Wayne.. Laser by Hollywood Dog...Visuals by I-Candy and L.S.D., Atmosphere by Funky Baby and A super large Chill Zone by Vega.... Presale Locations: In Tha MIx, Sacramento, 2329 I St. (916)442-0499, Solid Grooves 368 S. Bascom St., San Jose, (408)999-0259 Rock On, Fairfield, 1630 North Texas St. (707)422-2080, Motion Music, Modesto, 403 coffee St. (209)577-6965, Housewares, San Francisco, 1322 Haight st., (415) 252-1440 $25 @ the door and we have Very Limited 20 dollar Pre-sales . Sacramento. 916.554.0885 415.248.2678 408.920.2280 Saturday, June 5th - Sister d&b room:, XJS, Alley Cat, Melanie (SF House Collective), Miss E (Future Breaks FM), House & Techno room: , Forest Green (techno west/cloud factory), Lori & Tracy. Sound by: cloud sound. Cross Street: Masonic. 21+. 1751 Fulton St., SF. http://www.xanthoria.com 415.255.4333 Saturday, June 5th - GoodeTyme Entertainment presents AMNESIA GoodeTyme Entertainment bring to you a Music lovers delight with reowned DJ's as follows: ONIONZ (ELECTRIC SOUL/Imperial Dub/Chocolate Factory- NYC), DORAN (Fragrant Music/RAM), JIM HOPKINS (Twitch/V-Wax/ELECTROLINERS,-SF), TONY (The Gatherings, SF), HAPPY KID MARTY (Happy Kids- SF), DJ TECHNIQUE (CLOCKWORK DJ's/Journeez Music), Homero X-Pinosa (GoodeTyme DJ's), Pistachio + Aonymous(Math Sound Workshop), Tracy (Sister/Daddy's Records), Jesse (the crate). Fully permitted and secure venue with over 40,000 square feet. 2 rooms +1 outside area. Industry-(promoters, venders, Art donations) 415.563.7777 $15. pre-sale or $20.00 @ door . 415.674.1111 Saturday, June 5th - E.T.A. presents Monument to Eternity A Hard Trance Rising Event Uphonic, Kemical Kidd, Tracer, Dyloot, Depth, DJ D. This is a limited capacity, pre-sale only event. For more information please call our voice mail. 415.364.1803 Saturday, June 5th - The Unity Vibe Tribe presents GENERATION X Dj line up soon to be posted..... For more imformation please call: 408.271.6900 650.361.0950 Friday, June 11st - VORG presents BREATHE A very special party at a once again brand spankin', fresh, new location!!! More TBA. 415.750.3100 Saturday, June 12nd - Silver Pearl Records presents QUEST Summer Solstice Guiding your Quest from dusk 'til dawn on 4 thumping sound systems with DJS: Jeno (Wicked, SF), Doran (Rampant Records and Hook Recordings, LA), Christopher Lawrence (Hook Recordings and Fragrant, LA), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records, SF), Steve Loria (Bang the Drum, LA), Barry Weaver (Funky Techno Tribe, Seattle), Astral Matrix (O.O.B.E. Music, SF), Jason Blakemore (Life Music, Aquarium, aka DJ Trance, LA), Tony (The Gathering, SF), Donald Glaude (Funky Teckno Tribe, Seattle), Caine (Silver Pearl, SF), MODA (Trancefusion Records), Greg Sandler (Harmony, SF), Tom LG (Silver Pearl, SF), Tracy (Sister and Quest, SF), Dieselboy (611 Records, Philadelphia), Rinse & Flux with MC Jamalski (B.A.S.S. Kru and Compound Records, SF), R.A.W. (Mictlan Recordings, LA), NMAN (Biofonik and Silver Pearl, SF), J-Bot (Harmonics, Santa Rosa), Incredible Ambient Chamber with:, B))merang and Triad, Many more to be announced.. As always, we will have amazing visuals in each and every room, thumping sound systems by Silver Pearl and JK, lasers in 2 rooms by UV99, environment by Silver Pearl, and incredible floral art by Anthony Ward of PassionFlora NYC. We will have a wonderful clean safe warehouse, plenty of FREE fruit arranged into beautiful edible altars, and lots of free water. Limited pre-sale tickets will be available May 15th at the following Bay Area locations... and remember, the first 500 pre-sale tickets will receive a FREE mix CD courtesy of Silver Pearl Records: Solid Grooves, San Jose (408) 248-6399, Daddy's Records, Berkeley (510) 665-1653, Harmonics, Santa Rosa (707) 571-8747, In the Mix, Sacramento (916) 442-0499, F-8, San Francisco (415) 221-4142, Compound Records, San Francisco (415) 864-8309, Pipeline, Santa Cruz (831) 425-7473, or by mail from Silver Pearl Records by e-mailing contact@silverpearl.com. http://www.silverpearl.com 415.273.5912 510.287.5620 408.278.5286 Saturday, June 12nd - Skills invites all a smiling to A STARRY NIGHT With very special guests from L.A., Thomas Michael, Thee-O, Demigod, Plus all your favorite local DJ's -, Dyloot, Tom Slik, Mars & Mystre, Radley, Thomas Trouble, DJ D, Uphonic & Kemical Kidd, Tracer & Telene, Happy Kid Marty & Happy Kid Ian.. 415.437.4460 510.869.4601 Friday, June 18th - OPEN HOUSE presents Strictly Underground w/ your Open House Supastars: Serendipity, Unity, Styven & Scott Bliss, along with Guest Djs:, Evillyn (blessing us with her presence all the way from HAWAII), Joey Mazzola (Influence Recordings), Jason (Unite Prod.), Ryan Christopher, Levi, Secret Squirrel, Pengo, Gilad (5D), DevDawg (Roswell/McDonald Foundation), LadyJane tha' pimptress w/ MC Ragga Banton, Aspect(I.B.S), MES (Daddy's Records,KICK DRUM), and more TBA. $12 presale tickets are now available at: Daddy's Records (Berkeley) and Primal Records (Berkeley). First come first serve. THIS EVENT WILL SELL OUT!!!! *This is a 225 person max capacity party* Much love to all! And remember always, KEEP IT UNDERGROUND!! 225 presale tickets. SF. 510.288.7676 Friday, June 18th - Counterpoint Productions presents Commence More TBA, Housewaves and Trancefrequencies by BARRY WEAVER (Funky Techno Tribe, LA), THOMAS TROUBLE (Trance and Jungle Factory, SF), TONY (The Gathering, SF), RIG-A-TONY (Sagitariun), TYLER (Counterpoint), DENNIS (THC), DJ SCOTT (Kick Drum), SCI FI, DAVID, DJ GLOW. LASERS by HOLLYWOOD DOG, THUNDERING SOUND by COMMUNITY, FREE FRUIT and CANDY, 2 ROOMS. 9pm-6am, All ages. $12 w/ canned food $15 w/ out. Sacramento. http://counterpoint.sacone.com 916.783.9948 916.866.3266 Saturday, June 19th - Magic Playground Mix Master Mike, Jeno, U.F.O, Taj, Abstract, Tony, Mechete, Star Eyes, Rick V, Rktech, Kenneth Paul . Flat-presale will be released 2nd week of May. Turbo Sound System. FULLY PERMITTED. 2ND/JACKSON IN JACK LONDON SQUARE 10pm-6am, $25. JACKSON STREET WAREHOUSE, 225 JACKSON ST OAKLAND, Oakland. http://www.magicplayground.com Saturday, June 19th - Feel Good Entertainment presents The First Ever : Splendor Blender: "Its time to get your mix on" The Summer Solstice PLURity Vibe-Fest. [CitruSonic Hyper Tonic]: , Deepsky - Live PA (Fragrant Records, LA), DJ D:FUSE (Expansion Project, Funked Up Records, Lift Room, Austin TX), Moda & Jazz-E (Trancefusion Music), DJ Kevin Kind & Kwashi (Feel Good Family), Mike Barrett & Kid Bippy (SupaSonic 37 Rec.), Eric Spire (Quest/Silver Pearl), Fashion with Passion (Interactive Multi-media Rave-Fashion Expo), MC Ray Vonie [Liquid Thunder Punch], Joey Mazzola & David Garcia (House Nation, Influence Recordings), Ghost & Frank Nitty (Ghostribe Krew), DJ Liquid & DJ RKTECH (Journeys Music), Greg Sandler & Logik (Harmony & North Bay Collective), Thomas Trouble & DJ D (Trance & Jungle Factory), Corey & Brent Vassar (Kunfuzion), [Jungle Juice]: Turtle (Threshold Vibes), Jeff Taisch (Lightseed), Hak & Siphon (Urban Assault), Rinse & Flux (BASS Krew/Compound Rec.), BluTonic (Universe, Ministry Of Sound, London, UK), Sideburn Slim (Diverse City), MC Duh, [Down-Tempo Daiquiri]:, Deepfog, B))merang, Triad, Bodhi, Skye + Guests, {PLURtonium Cocktail]:, DJ Phelan (Zero Point Energy), Joaqman (Trance & Jungle Factory), Kid Loose & Rossi (Feel Good Family), DJ Mad Merc (Liquid:Mercury), Joe Lanzon, Randy H. (Motion Music), Willow (Mystical Mayhem), DJ Shubert, [Raw-Flava Shake]:, The Higlanders : DJs Tomcat & Saucer, Supernatural turntable artists (sTa), with DJs Relm, Swiftrock (98 vestax world dj champion), Streak, Deus, Jahrome, Ajaxxx, DJ Derrick D (Deco), SunnMoonSekt (Performing Live), DJ Quest (bpsh / space travelers), J-Wicked, Rasta Cue Tip (Brick-SF) , [Fur of the Dog] afterparty with BeatDown Sundaze:, Paucus,, Tripnotix, Gran-T, Breeze, Ulrich, DJ Prophet + Guests. We're Blending all the splendid positivety of our underground culture into one wacky and twisted party concoction. Get ready to surpass all your dull barriers with 6 tasty potions of delicious music and juicy vibes. A Limited Number of Discounted $25 discounted Pre-sale tickets go on sale May 21st. morning-sunset., . Oakland International Rave Center, 633 Hegenberger Rd. http://www.tixtogo.com/go/feelgood. Scotty Fox (The Chopshop) 415.263.0483 408.881.0785 510.888.2358 Saturday, June 19th - FREQUENCY 8 4 year Anniversary Celebration Summer Solstice Campout Weekend Stay Tuned In.. Saturday June 19th- Sunday 20th. http://www.frequency-8.com 415.541.5019 415.541.5863 Saturday, June 19th - Feel Good Entertainment presents Special Secret Surprise Summer Solstice Celebration More information to follow. Keep it Real Good with Feel Good. http://www.globalparty.com Sunday, June 20th - Hi Rise productions and Existential Sounds presents Backflip 2 year anniversary - Love and War Garth (Wicked), Jone`ne` (Stompy Hi-Fi), Markie (Wicked), Tasho (Stompy Hi-Fi), Jeno (Wicked), Preston (Stompy Hi-Fi), Moses (Sunshine Daydream), Girl Friday (Uniting Souls), fabuLizz (Uniting Souls), Seven (Hi Rise), Sol (Hi Rise), Michael Tello (Housepitality), Dave Chapman (Legion of Funk), Peterbilt (Hi Rise), Jason Henry (Legion of Funk), Push (Future Breaks), Miss E (Eklectik), PBS crew (Arc Angel Gabe Real, NoBattles, and Mateo), Jin (HiRise), Le'Le' (Legion of Funk). Tickets will go on sale Saturday, April 24 at local record stores: Tweekin Records, Housewares, Clear Records, Big Daddy's (Berkeley), and Primal Records (Berkeley). With food and festivities both indoors and by the pool. 12 pm-2am, . $10 in advance and $15 at the door. . Thursday, June 24th - XTORT Productions presents AMOEBA Simon Apex (SSU), Sascha23 (Xtort), dB (Xtort), Glow (Xtort), Dj Chad (Xtort/Alpha Zone). DIRECTIONS: Take I-80 east toward Reno, exit right on Madison, left on Auburn, right on Garfield. Turn left into first parking lot; building in back. As always this is an ALL AGES event. Doors are open at 9PM so come early to beat the rush and walk away with FREE stuff to the first 50 people from various record labels. TICKETS: $8 at the door all night (come early to gaurantee entry :o) http://home.earthlink.net/~sascha23 916.334.6200 Friday, June 25th - Nocturnal Productions presents X.O.X Returns 3 Year Anniversary Frankie Bones 2x4, Tony vs. Simon 2x4, Jim Hopkins, Mike Barrett, Leo, Dj Champ, Corey 2x4, Anton vs. Kwashi 2x4. Jungle and Trance lip TBA ASAP. Pre-sale tickets will only be $17. This event will sell out so please if you really want to go, please buy your presales. This event will be in a permitted location in a secure area. More info will be posted by the middle of may. This event will be my own pre-Freedom adventure. Friday, June 25th - climaXXX productions presents THUNDERDOME Trance:, Heidi & Anakin (Rebel Sound Alliance), DJ D (T&J Factory), Bryan Lee (Global Energy Music, SF/LA), DJ Eyal (Global Energy Music, Fragrant, Phatt Phunk Records, LA), Happy Kid Ian (Happy Kids), DJ 725 (Kuang Mark, XI), Happycore & Jungle:, Nebula (climaXXX), Simon Apex (Alpha Magic Recordings, UK) _-VS-_ DJ Nimh (Happy4Beat, Phoenix, AZ), DJ ansi (R.A.S.H., Redemption), DJ climaXXX (climaXXX). This will all go down in Berkeley, CA-400 person capacity. Free H2O, outdoor chill space, and more surprises... $10 Presale, $12 at the door. Presales available at Isolate Records, 2114 Addison, Berkeley.. 510.726.1303 Saturday, June 26th - The müvmental Collective presents Reality Used to be a Friend of Mine Juan Atkins (Metroplex/TVT/WaxTrax/R&S Records), ANI (On-E) formerly of DEEE LITE (zoo york media), Barry Weaver (Funky Tekno Tribe), DRC (Twin Soul Productions), Sleepy C (psycoactive/AVA), Jeff Samuel (Lo-Fi Record/Nonstatic), DJ Ghost (Ghostribe Krew), Rinse & Flux w/ MC Jamalski (B.A.S.S. KRU), Smalls & 7UP (5 star productions), Dyloot (Skills/Mhz), Shakes (müvmental), Mua'dib (müvmental). This party is dedicated to all the kids who know where the Vibe lives. Presale outlets: F-8 Compound Records, Solid Grooves, In the Mix, Trance & Jungle Factory, Harmonics. We come together to create something beautiful out of love. http://www.muvmental.com 415.789.7366 510.273.2435 Saturday, June 26th - Harmony More information TBA. Friday, July 2nd - T r a n q u i l i t y presents WELCOME TO TRANQUILITY An out door underground event pushing the power of trance. Alias (Tranquility, Question Mark Productions), Mystre (F-8), Uphonic (E.T.A.), Telene, Merlyn (V.O.R.G.). 200 limited $10 pre-sales ONLY. 415.435.7567 Saturday, July 3rd - July 4th - 8TH ANNUAL FREEDOM FESTIVAL Line-up T.B.A.. Flyers out soon. 415.905.8888 Friday, July 9th - children of the sun presents Sunshine Of Your Love a summertime celebration of love, life, and happiness... 415.835.3144 Saturday, July 10th - idm tba.... http://www.elemental.nu/idm Saturday, July 10th - Forever Young Robbie Long vs. Devestate (Next Generation, UK) Happy Hardcore FIRST U.S APPEARANCE!!, SIMON APEX (Alpha Magic, UK) vs. DJ NIMH (Happy 4 Beats, Phoenix AZ), ANDY vs. B2B JOSH (Sac.), APOLLO SMILE (Forever Young, Sac.), DJ HERETIC (119 Crew, LA) vs. RIFF (Sac.) Jump up Jungle, DEMIGOD (Industrial Strength, LA) DUTCH (Happy Gabber), RON D. CORE (Freeclouds Mixinglab, LA) Terrorcore, IMIX (Navigator, Sac.) Live P.A Speed Garage, MOE (Sac.), RICKY RICARDO (Loolipop, Chico), JASON-WHO (Fuzze, Sac.), BLAKE (N.B.C), TANK (Sac.). All night, free fruit, free water, and free stuff for early birds. Please come with your open minds, smiles, and get ready to dance! *limited Presale at Subsonic Underground Record Store, Sac. 9pm-8am, $15. Sacramento. 916.603.2866 Saturday, July 10th - 6 in da mornin productions presents Ground Zero 4: Judgement Night - The Final Chapter (6AM 3 Year Anniversary) TBA. World Class dj lineup and live acts to be unveiled on Saturday, April 3rd 1999. Promoters and vendors please contact 6AM on the industry line (800) 683-4569. Except no imitations. 415.995.1940 Saturday, July 17th - INNER EYE presents oOo AREA 51 oOo ((((((CONTACT)))))) TBA. We are organizing this event to be the most epic event of the summer... Top secret information will be released on May 1st, until then all info is CLASSIFIED... Stay tuned in... Saturday, July 17th - TRANCE AND JUNGLE FACTORY presents Man in the Moon Reunited Thomas Trouble, Dj D, Eric Spire, Mars, Mystre, Dyloot, Tom Slik. Please check back soon for a huge line-up. Capacity is limited 2000 people, so please purchase your pre-sale tickets early. 415.248.2669 Friday, July 23rd - Megahertz presents 80MHz Dyloot, Aspect, Radley Marx, Elias Smith.. more TBA http://www.mhz.nu/80MHz 415.395.8448 Saturday, July 24th - Open House Scott Bliss, Serendipity, Styven & Unity, Woodrow Low (A.M. Prod., Seattle), Jon Lee (Concepts, Seattle), Mes (Daddy's, Kick Drum), Joey Mazzola (Influence Recordings), Secret Squirrel, Jason (Unite Prod.), Gilad (5D), . Much love to all! And remember always, KEEP IT UNDERGROUND!! SF. 510.288.7676 Saturday, July 24th - @spire 2 years in the making... TBA. We're back... Tell a friend! More information coming soon! 415.273.5513 Saturday, July 31st - Mytical Mayhem Productions presents Serenity MC Jamalski (B.A.S.S. Kru, SF), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records & Quest, SF), Greg Sandler (Harmony & Harmonics, SF), Doran (Rampant Records, Hook Recordings, LA), Moshe (SF), Gianni (Release, & Spundae, SF), Joey (Housenation) on 2 x 4, DJ Doubt(Ministry Of Sound,UK) on 2 x 4, Kevin Kind (FGE), Kwashi (FGE), Hak & Siphon (Urban Assault), Sideburn Slim (Native Vision Prod.), Eric Brown (Rebirth & Harmonics), Moshe (SF), Willow (Mystical Mayhem), and many more to be announced.. Stay tuned for more information.... For information please call Mystical Mayhem (the cocreator of Rebirth) brings us SERENITY. So many firsts at this event which include fresh new tracks from Influence Recordings artists Doubt & Joey & aromatherapy environment. Also free fruit, lemonaide, massage practioners, etc. brought together to create an experience for all the senses. For info, promotion, vending, ideas, etc call 10pm-6am, . 415.789.7344 408.882.5090 415.789.7344 408.882.5090 Saturday, July 31st - Full Circle Reunion - TechNique James Christian (NYC), Vicious Vic (NYC), Tony, Garth, Simon, DJ Matthew, with more T.B.A.. More info on the way! Sunday, August 1st - Existential Sounds presents... presents Birth...a celebration of Life. Garth (Wicked), Markie (Wicked), John Howard (Heavy Rotation), Chang (Simons, Gainesville, FL), Three (Hallucinations Records, Tampa, FL), Brian Busto (The Rubb, Tampa, FL), and more TBA. . An indoor/outdoor event featuring an art show. (between Potrero and Utah) Art show from 3PM-8PM. Music from 2PM-2AM. Tickets available May 31, 1999. Buses to the location: 33 Stanyan 22 Fillmore 9 San Bruno. email: avatarz@earthlink.net avatarz@earthlink.net or salivatethurs@hotmail.com Tickets available at Tweekin' Records, Housewares, Big Daddys (Berkley), and Primal Records (Berkley). Free before 4 pm, $8 in advance, $15 at the door. . IL Pirata, 2007 16th St, SF. 415-626-2626. Friday, August 6th - Purity of Essence Mars, Mystre, Uphonic, Dutch, Dyloot, Tracer, more to come. Saturday, August 7th - Space Children's Juggernaut Festival 4 year Anniversary Cesar, Twerk, Greg Sandler, Mars, MystrE, Noel, Ufo, Dutch, Miah. Live: Cosmic Selector/Buna (live). Many many more tba 415.272.1622 Saturday, August 7th - Native Vision Productions presents The Prophesee DJ LINE UP & MORE INFO TO FOLLOW IN JUNE . We Invite you to celebrate the remembrance of the Prophecy that made the world what it is today. The Prophecy goes like this: In the beginning we sat in a circle to share and remand as one with each other and Mother Earth, then the creator came down and split us up in to the red, white, yellow, and black we were all to accomplish a certain number of things then come back into the circle and share. We need to remember the root of it all. So we the people for the Earth can live. http://www.globalparty.com/nvp/ 415.281.0777 Sunday, August 8th - 3horsemen Productions presents DAISY Thomas Trouble, D.J. D, Simon, Greg Sandler, Elias Smith, J-BOT.. A party with real heart. It's Daisy's birthday and she wants to see all those happy party friends of hers there. Join us in S.F. because the weekend is not over till it's over. With free snacks at 5PM and a hunken big cake at 6PM. We are all one big family kids so join us in celebrating Daisy's birthday and if your birthday is this weekend you get in free. Party is limited to 650 pre-sale tickets. At the door admittance as space becomes available. Get your $15 pre-sales at: Harmonics(Santa Rosa), Frequency 8(San Francisco),T&J Factory(Berkeley)"HAPPY BIRTHDAY DAISY" 4pm-4am, . http://www.3horsemen.com 415.721.3929 Friday, August 13rd - August 15th - Camp Harmony TBA. All weekend camping celebration!!! More information TBA. Saturday, August 14th - CLOCKWORK EVENTZ presents STARZ TBA.. Live: Long Beach Dub All-Stars.. CLOCKWORK EVENTZ invites you to come dance under the... STARZ Superstar talent to be announced!!! This will be held at a wonderful outdoor location. Much more info in the future....... 408.747.7742 415.721.4713 510.733.1140 916.565.6560 Saturday, August 21st - FREQUENCY 8 Cybertrance Communication Stay Tuned In.. http://www.frequency-8.com 415.541.5019 415.541.5863 Friday, August 27th - August 28th - VORG presents A SPECIAL 2-DAY LAKESIDE CAMPOUT with amazing European live-performers. More TBA. 415.750.3100 Saturday, August 28th - Aliennation krew presents Abduction ! With the bay area's top dj's!, Tony, Simon, Frank Nitty, Joey Mazzola, Tripnotix, Paucus, Tommy Meyer, More t.b.a!. Main flyer coming in june 28, 1999!!! Saturday, August 28th - The Trance and Jungle Factory presents TICKLE 4 Extravaganza!!! Watch out for an amazing line-up!. More info t.b.a. 415.248-2669 Saturday, August 28th - InnerEye and (((THUMP))) Radio presents HALLUCINATION - 4th Annual pre-burningman trip-out HALLUCINOGEN - LIVE P.A. (Twisted Records, UK), TRISTAN (Twisted Records, UK), SIMON H. (Twisted Records, UK 1999 tour), PSY-WILD (213 Records), DUTCH (InnerEYE), others T.B.A. . 3 Areas,Techno/Trance room, Jungle/Breaks room, and Down Tempo/Ambient room. Amazing line-up and San Francisco Venue. More to come....... http://www.innereye.org 415.339.8082 510.595.5555 Saturday, September 4th - Feel Good Entertainment presents Megga-Buzz 4-U The 4th Annual Labor Day 3-Day Holiday Weekend PLURity Vibe-Fest! The Premier of local DJ Showcase. Buzz Line Birthday party celebration event. Keep it Real Good with Feel Good. http://www.globalparty.com Friday, September 10th - (((THUMP))) Radio presents X-Dream!!! (blue room records) TBA. Check back soon for more info. Saturday, September 11st - EarCandy Two - Our One Year Celebration TBA, Mars, Mystre, Dutch, Uphonic, Tracer, Micron, Dyloot, Happy Kid Ian, , and more TBA :). 415.281.8384 Friday, September 17th - Megahertz presents 100MHz Aspect, Radley Marx, Elias Smith, Dyloot, Special Guests.. more TBA http://www.mhz.nu/100MHz 415.395.8448 Saturday, September 18th - ASR 2 Year Anniversary Three room's of superb DJ's TBA..... This event will be in celebration of ASR's two year anniversary, therefore ASR will go back to it's roots, the Monterey Bay. Saturday, September 18th - Silver Pearl Records presents Quest TBA . Stay tuned for details... http://www.silverpearl.com 415.273.5912 510.287.5620 408.278.5286 Saturday, September 25th - Harmony Sixth Year Anniversary Celebration!!! TBA. More Information TBA Saturday, October 2nd - Mystical Mayhem line up TBA. Details TBA 415.789.7344 408.882.5090 Saturday, October 2nd - E.T.A. presents The Red Shift Info T.B.A.. Saturday, October 9th - Skills trance room:, Dyloot & Tom Slik, Radley Marx, Mars & Mystre, Thomas Trouble, Happy Kids Ian & Marty, hardcore/happyhardcore room: From L.A.- , Ron D. Core, Demigod, Paulina Taylor, Plus locals - , Aspect, Simon Apex, Uphonic. 415.437.4460 510.869.4601 Saturday, October 16th - The Trance and Jungle Factory presents *****TICKLE 5!!!***** TBA. watching this space... 415.248-2669 Saturday, November 6th - Harmony TBA. More information TBA. Saturday, November 13rd - Silver Pearl Records presents Quest 2 Year Anniversary TBA . Stay tuned for details... http://www.silverpearl.com 415.273.5912 510.287.5620 408.278.5286 Saturday, November 27th - Feel Good Entertainment presents The Spirit of Giving The 3rd Annual Thanksgiving 4-day Holiday Weekend Plurity Vibe-fest Keep it Real Good with Feel Good. http://www.globalparty.com W E E K L I E S House/techno/acid jazz/jungle/ambient/etc reg'lar happenins Some of them may have ended - let me know when that happens... Thursday GUANG! - Jimmy Chu, Cobie, Guest DJ appearances.. Dress code strictly enforced: No jeans, no tennis shoes, no sports attire. 21+. $8 at the door, $6 w/flyer or this email, Ladies in free b4 11:00. Club ERA, 525 Howard St., SF. 510.917.3030 the insight series - insight shows are about live electronic music that pushes the boundaries of the way we think about music w/DJs sean copper, eric hill. (*) EVERY THIRD THURSDAY of the month performances will start sometime shortly after 10pm. 9pm-, 21+. 111 minna st, SF. http://www.syncopated.net/emanate [5.20 - :\> o.s.t. - emanate / worm interface :/> kit clayton - cytrax] the Vanity party - BB Hayes (Resident) , guest djs:, Pete Avila, David Harness, ST John, Scott DC. Just off of highway 280. On the corner of Lawrence and Homestead. 9pm-2am, 21+. The BackBeat, 777 Lawrence Expressway, Santa Clara. 408.241.0177 Pitch - The underside of SF's techno/house music scene. Agressive, live musicians and dj's. w/DJs Crunch, YT, Dutch , Residents, Corey Black, Y.T., w/ special guests:, TUESday nites in March:, Freaky Chakra, Margorie & Stuart, DRC, big Nate, THURsday nites in April:, Cristina, Dutch, Ryme, Single Cell Orch., djCrunch.. ....Duck and weave.... Donation. CLUB SACRIFICE, 19th Street & South Van Ness, SF. Velvet Shop - house, jungle, hip hop, downtempo w/DJs M3, Mark Johns, guests. 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. Waves, SJ. 408.235.1556 408.235.1556 Kit Kat - house. 10pm-4am, 21+, $10. the End Up, 6th & Harrison, SF. The Cafe - house w/DJ Mathew Baker. 8pm-2am, 21+, Free. the Cafe, 2367 Market Street, SF. 415.861.3846 Passenger - excursions to global beats and rhythms 10p-2a, 21+, Free. the Skylark Lounge, 3089 16th St. @ Valencia, SF. Club Faith - Hip-Hop, House, Progressive. w/DJs Blackstone (Resident), Jay-R, Ruben Mancias (Resident), Weekly Guests. Boys/Girls, mostly bi/gay. If you have a closed mind this club will leave you behind! 9:30pm-3am, 18+, $7. Free with Flyer.. City Nights, 715 Harrison St., SF. Hi-Rise - The weekly thursday night house thing. w/DJs Seven (Resident), Sol (Resident), Peterbilt (Resident), Jin (Resident), Weekly Guests. Visuals by Visual Attack.Overloading your senses with deep underground house vibes at the coolest restaurant/bar in S.F. Free before 10pm. Dinners served until 10pm. Resurrecting the deep funk we call House. 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. Backflip, 601 Eddy, SF. [4.29 - Taj (Waller St. Boys)] [5.6 - Jeno (Wicked, Greyhound Recordings)] Atmospheric Drum & Bass - Peregrine. 8pm-11pm, . Brain Wash Cafe, 1122 Folsom St, SF. Manifesto - soul, hip hop, dub, jungle & electro with w/DJs monkey, marlo, & weekly guests.. Come on out and eat a late dinner and stick around with us for drinks and more. 9:30pm-to close, Free. ChaChaCha's located at The Original McCarthy's Bar, 2327 Mission @19th Street, SOMA. Eklektic - jungle, drum n bass w/DJ Sage (jungle/drum 'n' bass Resident). Live: Weekly guests from the Bay area + the World. 9pm-2am, 21+, $12. 78 Minna, SF. 415.332.5800 x787 Double Trouble - Romanowski , Special Guests. Live funk and hip hop. Abstract Jazz. Come inside, cuddle up to a fire, a strong drink and a hapless passerby. Drink and dancing until two a.m. $5. Storyville, 1751 Fulton St, SF. Silky...smoothe and sublime - Come listen to how the ladys lay down the funky beats w/DJs Tracy (Sister), FabuLizz (Progress), Girl Friday (Uniting Souls). Silky, the all female cast of the SF underground, will be held at Il Pirata on the third Thursday of every month. (between Potrero and Utah) Buses to party: 33 Stanyan 9 San Bruno. Email Art and decorations by: Bahar meets Angela. 9pm-2am, $3. Il Pirata, 2007 16th St, SF. 415.626.2626 The Circus - Hip-hop, Disco, Club Classics, House w/DJs Paolo Vincenti (Resident), Romero X Pinoza (Resident), Special Guests Weekly. Thursday night -this thursday, January 28th, is THE grand opening. 9:30pm-, 18+. $5 with a college ID. La Vals, 2516 Durant Ave, Berkeley. 510.595.5597 Every Thursday at the Top - Deep House spun by: w/DJs Laron, John Pickett, Dani, Robbie Hardkiss. Steven Tune and the original dues rock "we got the beats" beats for all kinds for the premillinnial mind. $3. The Top, 424 Haight St, SF. FriscoGlide - Every Thursday at the Top w/DJs John Pickett, Laron, Rotating guests as well. House Music The Top (Lower Haight), SF. Definition - Quality house music by the world's leading djs - house, techno w/DJs Markus (Resident / Kickdrum), JP (Resident / Kickdrum), Kamahele (Undertow Records). Inside Sacramento's Newest Club 'The Garage'. $5. Club 1831, 1831 19th Street, Sacramento. 916.484.4614 Techno Thursdays - house, techno w/DJs Dj Matt in the Hatt, Weekly Guests. Spinning house and techno every Thursday @ the Q Cafe. 9pm-. Q Cafe, 529 Alma, Palo Alto. 650.322.3311 Friday Deeper - Resident dj's, Laron, Ra-Soul, Laird. 917 Folsom St, SF. 415.273.1170 [4.30 - opening night with the residents (Laron, Ra-Soul & Laird)] [5.7 - Galen, Solar (Sunset Crew) & Laird] [5.4 - Laird, John Howard (Heavy Rotation) & Tracy (Liquid, Silver Pearl)] [5.21 - Mouse (Joy/Liquid), Laird & Buck] [5.28 - Felix the Dog (Black Diamond/Psychofunkdiscodelic)] The Bassment - Bringing in Top SF and International Drum & Bass Talent every week.... w/DJ TBA.. 11pm-3am, $10. Get a Bassment Flyer, bring it and avoid the lines(via vip line) & get a $2 discount before 12am. In the Bassment of 1015 Folsom, 1015 Folsom, SF. [4.30 - Double A & Twist (Dune Recordings, CAN), KAOS (Compound Records/Synthetics)] LIFE - Life SUCKS, and then theres Friday! w/DJ Mark Farina. Cross streeet: 4th. VIP Lounge and Oyster Bar. 10pm-, 21+, $10. Big Heart City, 836 Mission. Empire - DJ Party Ben. Empire, SF's own big-beat boutique At the corner of Third. Dj Party Ben, best known for his party reports on subsonic, will spin the sounds of Fatboy Slim, Chemical Brothers, Roni Size Reprazent, Prodigy and more. empire will also occasionally feature guest appearances from world renowned DJs. 9pm-2am., . Manhattan Lounge, 699 Market Street, SF. Dance Spirit - Leslie Shill. every first and third Friday evenings in april. $10. Nautilus Health Club, 4th street, San Rafael. Nikita - house, techno w/DJs Simon (Resident), Jeno (Resident), Jerry Bonham (Resident), Kayar (Resident for the drum & bassment), Kaos (Resident for the drum & bassment), Flux (Resident for the drum & bassment), Rinse (Resident for the drum & bassment). Broadcast live on the net at www.1015.com. Downstairs, Sticks and Stones- provacateurs of Bass present Drum + Bass with Resident Dj Kayar 10pm-6am, 21+, $10. Free before 10:30 PM. 1015 Folsom St, SF. http://www.spundae.com 415.267.0568 [4.30 - DJ Tomcraft (Germany)] [5.7 - Terry Mullan (Chicago)] [5.14 - Charles Feelgood (Baltimore), DB (NY)] [6.11 - legendary club from England RENAISSANCE - Dave Seamen (England), Anthony Pappa (england)] [6.18 - Paul van Dyk (Germany)] [6.25 - DJ Wada (Japan)] [7.16 - Andrew Weatherhal (England)] [7.23 - Scott Henry (Baltimore)] [7.30 - Derrick Carter (Chicago), Stacey Pullen (Detroit)] RoaM - an evening of sophisticated deep house... w/DJs Chad Mitchell, JP Soul, Dan Smith. 21+, Free. Liquid, 2925 16th St, SF. 415.289.6833 Stir-Fri-Day - happy-hour eclectic grooves served up by resident beat chefs w/DJs Jason Fluid, Shaolin, Maneesh the Twister, Plus weekly guests. 5pm-9pm, 21+. Minna St Gallery, 111 Minna St, SF. 0 415.974.1719 Bohemian Lounge - Intergalactic Funk Collages w/DJs Toph2000, rotating guests Pollywog, Manny Rosa, Charlotte the Baroness, Consuelo (Kevin). 9ish-2am, 21+, Free. the gorgeously restored McCarthy's Bar, 2327 Mission @ 19th, SF. 415.332.5800x211 (redwine) Melon - house w/DJs Dano, JZ, guests. First Friday of each month in the blue Room @ Nikita. 11pm-5am, 21+. 1015 Folsom, SF. http://www.redmelon.com 415.561.9215 Angel - house, tribal house, funk, modern rock, trance, progressive house, deep house, house, trip hob, soul, beats w/DJs Harry Who?, Rick Preston, Guests djs. 6 Artistic Rooms featuring Funk, Trip Hop, R&B, Soul Classics, beats Modern Rock, Trance, Progressive House, deep House and House. 9pm-2am, 21+, $10. Club Ecco, 87 North San Pedro, San Jose. http://www.clubecco.com/days.htm 408.947.1667 408.793.0328 The Davis Family Happy Hour - Local Dj Superstars, The Davis-get-down-funky-like-that-crew. Your favorite brews on tap. 3pm-7pm, 18+, Free. UCD Silo Pub, Hutchinson Drive, Davis. http://www.geocities.com/Hotsprings/Falls/2500 Launch - It'll give sump'din foer da yung;unz to doc. w/DJs Resident Djs:, BombRocker (Pure Tryb, WC), Phil-e-Cheez (Walnut Creek), Weekly guests. 18 & under (if you can pass for under 18). House, Trance, Breaks, Jungle. 7:30pm-11:00pm, 18+, Free. Walnut Creek Civic Center, Civic Park, Walnut Creek. Saturday Housepitality - like we always do about this time w/DJs in the attic:, Jonene (Stompy), Jason henry (Salivate), Dj Riddler? (resident), in the insect lounge:, Push (Future Breaks 90.3 FM), Lo-ki (Koncrete Jungle), Dj Lexxus!. Every 1st and 3rd Saturday of the Month. Join us for a night of intense house and jungle rhythms! 9pm-2am, $10. free B4 10. 415.273.5449 510.273.2493 Tek-No-Bas - techno, jungle w/DJs Stealth, Danger. Expect to hear jungle, drum and base, and techno both Detroit and European. 9pm-2am, 21+. $5 cover from 10-2. Club 1028, 1028 Geary St., SF. Pablos Sugar Shack - Pablo's Resident DJs:, John Howard, Norman Stradley, Jellybear, Miguel Migs, Rasoul, Romanowski. Big Heart City, 836 Mission Street, SF. http://www.pablos.com [4.10 - Ellen Ferrato, Miss Megan] [5.1 - -JZ (Red Melon Records-] Other Whirled - House, Techno w/DJs Nobel, Vince, Christine, Daniel, Henrik, guests. saturday morning 5:30am-3pm, 21+. the EndUp, 6th Street @ Harrison, SF. 415.208.7665 Release - House, techno, jungle, funk, trip hop, disco w/DJs Doc Martin (1st Saturday each month), Marques Wyatt (2nd Saturday), Deep Dish (3rd Saturday), Terence Toy, Julius Papp, Behrouz, Tom Thump, Ellen Ferrato, Norm, Thomas Roberts, BB Hayes, Jason Edwards, Anthony Scott, Jerry Ross, Eric Lacy, Atom, DJ D, Gianni, special guests, Martin, Bruce, DeMilo. 10pm-9am, 21+, $10. 1015 Folsom, SF. http://www.sfstation.com/clubs/release.htm 415.281.0823 [5.1 - Garth in the main room] [5.8 - Marques Wyatt and Ricky Morrison] [5.15 - Deep Dish] [5.29 - Farley & Heller begin their Mixer Magazine Tour] [6.12 - Marques Wyatt and Erick Morrillo] [6.19 - Deep Dish] [6.26 - CJ McIntosh] La Belle Epoque - 21st Century Drum n' Space w/DJs Mike Bee, Wish FM, Sea, guests. 10pm-2am, 21+. the Top, 424 Haight St, SF. Carry On - Underground house and garage music. w/DJ Mauricio Aviles. Cross Street: Howard. 10:30pm-4am, 21+, $8. Club Asia, 201 9th St., SF. Club Universe - Funk, House, High energy dance. w/DJ Special Guests and artists every week. 9:30pm-7am, 21+, $10. free b4 11pm. 177 Townsend, SF. 415.289.6650 FreeStyle - House and Funk w/DJs Christopher (Resident), Weekly Guests. Hosted by Mizz Ana Maronic. 21+, $5. free before 11pm. 399 9th St., SF. PUSH - house w/DJs your pushers, mouse, travis, chris orr. Matt valenz creates sonic sculpture for the dancefloor through the mediums of hi-tech deep house and technofunk. A popular underground affair attended by the city's most adventurous party people... this AIN'T the sound factory. Between Market and Mission. 9pm-2am, 21+, $7. Jessy Alley, SF. Plush - house, techno, trance, funk, trip hop, soul, beats, 70's w/DJs Resident Djs:, Thayton, Johnny, Julius Papp, Gianni (San Francisco), Scott DC (San Francisco), BBHayes, Guest from the bay area and around the world. Visuals by Jose G. Museo Contempo.Martini Bar on the Patio. Featuring the best Gin and Vodkas. Open for Happy Hour @ 5pm. No cover before 9:30pm. 4 Dance Areas featuring Funk, Trip Hop, R&B, Sould Classics, beats, 70's House, Trance Progressive House and Deep House. 21+, $10. Free before 9:30pm. Club Ecco, 87 North San Pedro, San Jose. http://www.clubecco.com/days.htm 408.947.1667 408.793.0238 Tricorder - downtempo, hiphop, electro, breakbeat w/ w/DJs marlo, monkey, flint, special guests.. Teetotling our way through the classics you've never heard it before. Every 1st and 3rd Saturday Located on 24th between Mission and Valencia. 9pm-2am, 21+, $1. 1, 3336 24th Street, SF. http://www.shooby.com/tricorder Wicked Session One - drumnbass, ambient, hiphop w/DJs Sep y (turntables), Stephen Kent (digeridoo), Peter Valsamis (percussion), Echo. "Wicked Session One" is the first in a series of upcoming nights in 1999 featuring acoustic and electronic musicians and DJS exploring the connection betwen dub, drum& bass, hip hop and ambient music. $6. Elbo Room, 647 Valencia, SF. Flikker - house w/DJs Rotating residents, Jus' Joel, dj d-paul, lee., Plus special guests.. 9pm-2am, 21+, $3. free before 10pm. Sacrifice, 800 South Van Ness @ 19th, SF. Sunday Bionic - bringing dubby dancefloor delerium and spaced out house every sunday w/DJs Solar, Mark E Quark, IZ. 10pm-2am, $3. the Top, 424 Haight, SF. Spundae - House, Techno w/DJs Carlos, David Michael, weekly guests. free b4 10:30p For 02.14.99 - 6 Year Anniversary Party! 5 elements giving you 11 decor by Ashley. 10pm-5:30am, 21+, $5. 1015 Folsom St, SF. http://www.spundae.net 415.974.9389 [5.2 - DJ Stryke, Craig Eversol (Den)] [5.9 - John Kelly (La)] [5.23 - DJ Dan] [5.30 - Memorial Day Weekend Special Line up coming. Stay tuned.] Leopard Lounge - Acid Jazz, Funk, Soul, Pop & Live Bands. w/DJs Jerry Ross, guests. The Hi-Fi, 2125 Lombard @ Fillmore, SF. 415.771.2583 Pleasuredome - Funk, House w/DJs Neil Lewis, guests. 21+, $8. 177 Townsend, SF. 415.985.5256 Dub Mission - SF's only dub night. The best in dubs and roots every Sunday. w/DJs I, Maneesh the Twister, Vinnie, Sep (kusf/kpfa), J.Boogie ("Beatsauce"), Ludichris, other suprises. Contact 647 Valencia @ 17th, mission. http://www.geocities.com/~dub_mission/ 415.552.7788 [5.2 - MANEESH the TWISTER VS. WASTEMASTER Soundclash] [5.9 - DJ SEP AND DJ JAH YZER (Reggae/Dub - DJ DANCE)] [5.16 - DJs LUDICHRIS and J.BOOGIE (Reggae/Dub - DJ DANCE)] [5.23 - DJs SEP & VINNIE] [5.30 - J BOOGIE's DUBTRONIC SCIENCE, DJ SEP, STEPHEN KENT] The Cafe - house w/DJs Mathew Baker, Jay-R. 8pm-2am, 21+, Free. the Cafe, 2367 Market Street, SF . 415.861.3846 Liquid Sundays - Beetroot, quest djs. 21+. Liquid, 2925-16th St @ S.Van Ness, SF. Cosmic Hands - drum n bass, techno, house w/DJs chris jackson, nada, leath, tomas, jaz, hak, toby, paul leath. . This is a free party which happens on the first sunday of every month. Begins 2.07.99 9pm-2am, Free. Waves, 65 Post St, SJ. Monday Movin on Up - It's a vibratory thang w/DJs marc anthony, kevin, guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. The Top, 424 Haight, SF. Noc Noc - Drum'n'bass, downtempo and electronica w/DJ Mohsen. every other Monday. 9pm-2am, 21+, Free. 557 Haight St, SF. 415.861.5811 Density - 98% Concentrated Urban Beats saturated with Drum & Bass Deconstructions w/DJs Al Simmons, Noel, J Boogie, Aural B (Sharpshooter), guests. 9pm-2am, 21+, $3. the Justice League, 628 Divisadero, SF. 415.440.0409 Monday Mood Lounge - Happy Hour Downtempo to Drum and Bass w/DJs Triadessa, guests. 4pm-, 21+, Free. 406 Clement St, SF. HouseBlends - a special brew of house w/DJs a special brew of house w/DJs, Mes, Bloom, Tune, Neil, Abdul, Conrad, Friends (Weekly Rotation). Free before 10pm. Spend Happy Hour with HouseBlends (7pm-10pm). 10pm-2am, 21+, Free. the Top, 424 Haight, SF. http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Lounge/6072/ 925.988.7447 415.273.1308 Tuesday PHUNCKTION - Drum & Bass in motion w/DJs Residents: , Noel, JUJU, plus special guest TBA. Every tues. begining April 5th, 1999 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. THE TOP, 424 Haight St, SF. http://www.sfdb.com/ 415.789.8000 x1147 Pleasure - Residents, B.B. Hayes, Mark Silva, Matt Mau, plus weekly guest djs.. Real house music for real house heads...come into San Jose and get that SF feel. 9:30pm-2am, 21+. Free before 10:30...5 bills after.. Agenda Lounge, 399 South First Street, San Jose. Pure - house w/DJs Brian Brandon, guests. 9pm-, 18+. The Rage, 1890 Arden Way, Sacramento. 916.929.0232 Static - Techno, Drum & Bass, Downtempo, Electro, Experimental.... w/DJs Dj Sifu (Resident), Joe Rice (Justice League Sound System), Tomas (Umoja), J-Bird (Sunset/Pacific), Bre Ad, Sutekh, Re Ach, Quantum 23, Tomas, Sifu, J-Bird, Safety, Scissors, Sean Murray, guests. Static offers musical alternatives to listeners and dancers who are tired of pre-pubescent ravers, New Age missionaries and club culture, in general. Admission is $5 (21 and over, please). Come check out the two, newly fattened sound systems. 10pm-2am, $5. The Cat's Club, 1190 Folsom St, SF. http://www.belief-systems.com/static 510-496.3444 [5.4 - Live Human, Experimental Hip Hop Trio] Spark - drum'n'bass, downtempo, jazzstep w/DJs Seven, Sol, Massix, Jason Greer , guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. Backflip, 601 Eddy St @ Larkin, SF. 415.771.3547 [5.4 - Tom Thump (Groove Merchant, Twice as Nice)] [5.11 - Siren (Bassment, XLR8R), Ava (Housewares)] Spin Cycle - music of all types w/DJ guests weekly. 7:30p-midnight, All ages. CSUMB's Black Box Cabaret. http://www.cloudfactory.org/upcoming.html 831.457.7726 Tuesday nights at the Agenda - guest djs. upstairs at the agenda 21+. $5.00 after 10:30. 399 south first street, San Jose. Jive Samba - Josh Jones, Latin Jazz All Stars (Live), Chris (Electronic flavor with drum and bass), jazzy jungle. Come inside, cuddle up to a fire, a strong drink and a hapless passerby. Drink and dancing until two a.m. 21+, $5. Storyville, 1751 Fulton, SF. Core - drum & bass and beyond... w/DJs jefsta, cera, weekly guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, $2. Liquid, 2925 16th Street @ S. Van Ness, SF. http://hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~mkello01/core.html 415.790.4974 Wednesday SYNESTHESIA - Resident Djs, DUTCH, JEFF TAISCH. . - All welcome - 300 capacity - @ 19th St. One block from the 19th/Broadway BART station. 9pm-2am, All ages. $8/door-$5 w/can of food for The Floral Depot Project.. 1921 Telegraph Av., Oakland. 510.595.5555 415.339.8082 [5.1 - May line-up T.B.A.] BassTrap - house, elctro, jungle, breaks - anya, cloud, swoops, thebasstrapallstars. Third wednesday of every month. Get the digs at BassTrap. 9pm-2am, 21+. http://www.3d-dynamic.com/basstrap/basstrap.html 707.524.9804 PURIFIDE - on the first wednesday of every month - tech house tekno progressive trance w/DJs resident djs:, J-Bot, Gianni, M.A.C., Cloud. 9pm-2am, 21+. Anthony's, 53 Montgomery Drive, Santa Rosa. http://www.greenfieldgraphix.com/purifide.html 707.571.8747 @mosphere - Josh (The Gathering, Conscious Session), Fabulizz (Progress, Silky, Conscious Session), Seven (Spark, Hi-Rise), Jason Greer (Spark), Andre. Cross Street:Fillmore. We mix up downtempo, drum-n-bass and house. Finally, good music in the Marina! Yuppies and scenesters unite! 21+, $3. Hi-Fi Lounge, 2125 Lombard. Sol (Spark) [4.30 -] [4.30 -] [4.30 -] DEEP INSIDE - A deep house excursion w/ residents DJs w/DJs Taj, Josh (the Gathering), w/ weekly special guests taking it even deeper.. Every Wednesday except the 1st Wednesday of the month. This party starts 04.14.99. 10pm-4:30am, 21+, $5. Deep Inside The Bassment of 1015 Folsom , 1015 Folsom St, SF. 415.281.0544 Return of the B-Sides - Resident D.J. Solomon, guest, Solomon. Hiphop, Funk, Soul, and Dance Hall every wednesday, spinning on three turntables. Weekly drinks specials. 21+. Shattuck Bar and Grill, 2086 Allston @ shattuck, Berkeley. 510.845.7300 Come Unity - House, Techno, Ambient w/DJs Simon, Jeno, Garth, and Cosmic Jason (every other month). first Wednesday of the month. 10pm-4am, 21+, $8. 1015 Folsom, SF. 415.241.8815 Audio Alchemy - jazz, hip hop, drum & bass, latin, futuristic beats w/DJs Groove Merchant DJs, Tom Thump, Cool Chris. 7pm-, 21+. Liquid, 2925 16th St @ So.Van Ness, SF. qoöl - a pan-techno lounge w/DJs Spesh, Gil, Hyper D, top notch guests. Visuals by Hyperdelic.qoöl is now in it's 3rd year of celebrating dj culture at happy hour. each wednesday we gather to hear no less than 4 djs pump nothing but the qoöl est techno. in 1999, we hope to bring you more of the same awesome vibe, more superskilled spinners, more visual artistry, and more great tasting beer! lastly, qoöl will remain free in 1999 - w/ qoöl card 5pm-9pm, Free. 111 Minna St, SF. http://www.looq.com/qool Audible Colors - house, jungle, techno w/DJ guests weekly. 21+, $3. the Top, 424 Haight St, SF. 415.522.2343 Seance - Its a spiritual thang w/DJs local guests weekly, DJs Martel, Nabiel, Franky. Tarot readers, belly dancers, henna tattoo artists and authentic egyptian tapestries. Séance is an ethereal alternative with belly dancers, Tarot Card Readers and Henna tattoo artists. For dinner reservations call 771-3547. 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. Backflip, 601 Eddy @ Polk, SF. http://sfstation.com/clubs/seance.htm 415.281.0823 Wednesdays at Club Ecco - house, techno, trance w/DJs Danny (Resident), Ellen Ferrato, David Harness, Blackstone, Pete Avila. Wednesday is a fantastic gay club night at Club Ecco. All the great house hits hits in the San Pedro Room. Door s open for Happy Hour @ 5pm. 5pm-, 21+, $5. No cover before 9:30. Club Ecco, 87 North San Pedro, San Jose. 408.947.1667 Dubphonik - Mr. Brown. Come inside, cuddle up to a fire, a strong drink and a hapless passerby. Drink and dancing until two a.m. $5. Storyville, 1751 Fulton, SF. _________________________________________________________________ Info Lines * Harmony Party Line - 408-486-9591 * Be-At Info Line - 415-626-4087. Usually has 5-10 listings, updated daily. * the Buzz-line, a global party network - 650.569.3300 * Clubline - 415.339.8686 * Frequency 8 Trance/Techno infoline - 415.541.5019 * The Groove Line - 415.331.1500 ext.4788 * Mixology-Music (north bay) - 707.526.1230 * Housewares Rave Line - 415.281.0125 * V.O.R.G. info - 415.750.3100 _________________________________________________________________ Radio/TV/Net Shows * Sunday-Sunday, 24 hours, 7 days a week, "Technostate" spins live with the dopest underground bay area dj's and work very hard at it! For more info see Technostate Website * Sunday 12noon - until we drop. "House Before The World". Live netcasts every Sunday at boyandhisdog.simplenet.com We broadcast deep house and garage for all who live and love it. :) Our resident Djs are bvdub and vincent kwok from San Francisco, and we feature guests as well. * Sunday, 2pm (((THUMP))) Radio presents Music for the New Millenium on 90.3fm KUSF. Global and local DJs/musicians playing trance, techno, DnB, house, and everything in between! Set-lists and interviews on http://www.thump-radio.com * Sunday Night at 8pm - "Threshold" on Raveworld.net, A audio show featuring world class drum 'n' bass and Jungle Djs. * Sunday night 11pm-2am - "The Dreaming/Innermind Show" w/DJ Miracle & Mr. Monchichi. House, Jungle, Trip-Hop, Ambient, Dub, Break-Beats & guest DJs. KSCU 103.3 (Santa Clara) * Sunday night midnight-1am - "Shortwave" - Electronic music in all of its guises. KALX, 90.7 FM (Berkeley) * Sunday night 10pm-2am - "Jazzadelica" w/ Rocky Rococo. Exploring the groove: from jazz, funk and soul to world beat and all types of underground clubs. KFJC 89.7 (Los Altos Hills) * Monday - Friday 10pm - 2am ''World House Groove'' on www.nwez.net -- a LIVE show dedicated to these sounds of the underground..... Dj Kjel is your host and dj for the show incorporating the music styles of house, acid jazz, trance, trip hop, drum & bass, ambient, and the collages of variations in between....... also, guest djs drop by to tunes and there's a live chatroom to talk w/ the djs themselves ........... Listen & watch World House Groove. * Monday night 9:30pm-midnight - "The Autobahn" w/dj Sutekh. Man and machine made music. KALX 90.7 (Berkeley) * Monday 12 til 4 - "Three*Sixty Radio". Beta Lounge. * Mondays at 11:00 PM PST - "Krom" on Raveworld.net Featuring World Class Djs like Dj Sneak and Doc Martin * Every Other Mon Nite, 10pm-Midnite: _*TeK-IndUced EuPHoriA*_ <<>> 90.3FM KDVS, Davis http://drxeno.cjb.net * Every Tuesday from 1 to 3pm - Trance, techno, breaks and jungle with "the underground with the secret asian man" - available on real audio @ ksfs.sfsu.edu Call ins, requests, and chances to win free gifts and passes to shows are always available, just stay tuned.... need more info? please email me at leopimp44@aol.com * Tuesday night 9pm-11:00pm - "Conscious Groove" - ambientdowntempojunglehousetrancedrumnbasstriphop spun by weekly guest DJs. Hosted by Stephanie aka Miss fat slice. Free Radio Berkeley on the internet - www.freeradio.org * Tuesday night 9pm-mid Pacific - "An Epiphany of Sound" hosted by J.C. The best in beats to satiate your inner child. Electronic dance, noise, spoken word, world music and more. Also available in RealAudio @ Epiphany of Sound Real Audio Also available: Humour List Archive Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of KZSU Radio or Stanford University. KZSU 90.1 (Stanford) * Wednesday 3am-6am - "Nothing Short of Total War" w/Fathertime. Electronic musik of all kinds, interspersed with spoken word poetry and other various readings. KSCU 101.3 (Santa Clara/San Jose) * radio M.U.T.A.N.T. - live experimental techno and dj's playing all styles of underground music. spaz * Wednesday night 9pm-11pm - free form music mix. KPFA 94.1 (Berkeley) * Wednesday night - "the Power of Sound" with Leslie. A 3 hour excursion into the best music from the regions where minds meet between the heavans and the earth. KAZU 90.3 (Monterey Bay Community Radio) * Thursday Mornings 12:30am - 3:00am (Wednesday nights) "The Metallic Blurp" - strictly drum and bass with nman and guests on KZSC, Santa Cruz 88.1FM * Thursday morning 5am-7am - A postmodern Garrison Keillor on crack, DJ Boomerang Fidget spins hilarious tales of backwoods meth labs, urban decay and redneck ravers; all with a social conscience. Also, ambient & techno. Free Radio Berkeley 104.1 (Berkeley) * Thursday Morning 6-9am - "GYNA" Resident Djs buttek and maytag in a live 3 hour mix format bringin the latest UK and stateside rekkids...Guest djs coming include DJ Poop (Sf) next week, also be on the lookout for spots by DJ SIFU, Hak, and Sipon. For requests, rewinds, or anything else, call (408) 554-5728 or email thegyna * "Back To Babylon" - House extravaganza with DJ Sneak and Doc Martin. see Raveworld.net * Thursday morning 10am-2pm - "The Further Adventures of Aardvark" - trip-hop to experimental to ambient to gabba etc, etc. KSJS 90.5 (San Jose). * Thursday 7pm-11pm - The Beta Lounge - Live on the net - electronic music and culture, worldwide. http://www.betalounge.com/ * Friday 12pm-4pm - weekly DJ netcasts. x-radio. * Friday 3pm-6pm - free form music mix. KUSF 90.3 (SF) (also available on Realaudio * Friday 9:30am-noon - Snappy the Aligator plays deep groove music that dips into cool electronic sounds, classic soul, reggae & more. KALX, 90.7 FM (Berkeley) * Fridays 8pm PST - Freak City on Raveworld.net the definitive show on dance cultures. Featuring artists like Paul Van Dyk, Jason Bentley, Air and best of 1998 (Carl Cox, Josh Wink, Moontribe, Spundae, Burning Man * Fridays 9pm-midnight - Andrew from Groove Merchant spins on KUSF 90.3 (SF) * Friday night/Saturday morning - midnight-noon. House/techno mix with Johnny K, Ozone & guests - KCSS 91.9 Central Valley (Turlock) * Friday night/Saturday morning - "Just Desserts" w/Mr.Goodwrench - 10pm-2am Jungle, Detroit, Techno, Acid House, whacked-out Dub, and noise KFJC 89.7 - Los Altos Hills * Friday night 1am-4am - "House Nation" w/"Anthems Mix", with residents and hosts david garcia, st john along with joey mazzola and dj doubt. David garcia and joey mazzola are resident djs at the SKYLOUNGE located at 525 harrison st. along with rotating djs bb hayes and demilo. 1am-4am, WILD 94.9 SF. * Friday night - Moondance. Ambient; 3am-7:30am, KUSF 90.3 SF. * Saturday morning - 12:30am-3am - "Under a Groove" with DJ CK featuring the deepest house grooves, downtempo cuts, and melodic drum and bass tunes. KZSC 88.1 FM, Santa Cruz. * Saturday afternoon - "Bus Stop" - music and talk w/guest DJs from SF and beyond. 2pm-3pm. KUSF 90.3 SF. * Saturday night 11pm - Flux Television, Viacom Channel 53 - Ambient, acid jazz and house music videos & interviews. (415) 281-3377. flux@flux.net * (every other) Saturday night 10p-12:30a - "1984" w/DJ Richtoffen. House, Trance and German rave. 90.1 (Chico) * Saturday night - "amp" 1am. MTV. * Saturday night - "Subsonic". 1am-6am, KITS 105.3 SF. * Saturday night - "House Nation" w/"Anthems Mix", Top 10s from guest DJs and "London Connection w/DJ Doubt". 2am-4am, WILD 94.9 SF. * Ambiance Magazine - 9:30p weds-sun PNC Cable 2 (Modesto & Oakdale), 9p fri & sat, marcus cable ch 9 (ceres & turlock). * Saturday night/Sunday morning - 10pm - 3am, Aaron Axelson, Live 105.3 _________________________________________________________________ For a search interface to the calendar, see the Late Train club section (http://www.latetrain.com/clubs/). _________________________________________________________________ Administrative Notes If anyone has info on any other events, send it to me! I can't possibly hope to get all the info every week. This info gets sent via email every Thursday. 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Karina Powers - karina@hyperreal.org From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 14:48:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9714 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 14:48:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 9706 invoked by uid 233); 2 May 1999 14:48:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 23550 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 17:59:13 -0000 Received: from linex1.linex.com (HELO relay.linex.net) (199.4.98.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 17:59:13 -0000 Received: from linex4.linex.com (linex4.linex.com [199.4.98.14]) by relay.linex.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA21097 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:59:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linex.linex.com by linex4.linex.com (NX5.67c/NX3.0S) id AA22335; Fri, 30 Apr 99 10:59:06 -0700 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:59:05 -0700 (PDT) From: aminita To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: BSP: Sunshine Daydream this Sunday! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="16841142-508124301-925495145=:2735" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --16841142-508124301-925495145=:2735 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sunday May 2nd, 1999 Uniting Souls presents Sunshine Daydream... a daytime gathering "And as we let our own light shine...our presence automatically liberates others." - Nelson Mandela. Main Room: Special 4-hr set by Onionz and Joeski (NYC/Chocolate Factory) John Howard Mark Farina (Om Records) Moses (SoundTextures) DJ Riddler (Housepitality) Adnan (Squeeze/Blue Room Nikita) Jungle Room: Arc Angel Gabe Real (PBS/Future Breaks crew) Abstract (Phunckateck) Star Eyes (B.A.S.S. 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X-Originating-IP: [206.170.187.126] From: "michael waldren" To: akp2@duke.edu Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: New Urban Legend Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:41:43 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am not sure what Troy is smoking but there is plenty of Strychnine in acid. Amber is correct. Junglist Mikey >From: MacBunny >To: Troy Sheets >CC: Joaqman , WhrDaMud@aol.com, >sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: New Urban Legend >Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:41:03 -0400 (EDT) > >then what causes poeple to feel really achy in their bones, muscles and >back when they eat paper, but not liquid? > >amber > >On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Troy Sheets wrote: > > > I am afraid you don't know what you are talking about. > > > > There is no strychinine in acid... even in blotters. Acid in > > its purest form is a crystal. It is dissolved into water to make > > the liquid. If you drop or soak this liquid into paper, the water > > evaperates, and the crystals stay on the paper. > > > > -troy > > > > > > > > strychnine is used to adhere LSD to blotter paper. > > > without strychnine the LSD would slip off the > > > blotter. no strychnine, no blotter hits. yes, you > > > ingest strychnine which is deadly in larger amounts > > > everytime you take a blotter hit. > > > > > > stik to liquid or gel or be like me and give it up > > > permanently, > > > freedom of choice, is what you got. > > > > > > joaqman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---WhrDaMud@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > > sorry this is a forrward that i just got but this > > > is the new legend going > > > > around i see > > > > > > > > Someone sent me this and I thought it was worth > > > passing on..... > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > Hello, this is to warn every one of a new thing > > > happening in communities > > > > as a gang initiation and such. If > > > > you care about anyone, please forward this to them > > > immediately so they > > > > can learn of the possible harm. Even if you don't > > > read this, at least > > > > forward it to people. > > > > Hello, my name is Tina Strongman and I work at a > > > police station, as a > > > > phone operator for 911. Lately, we've received many > > > phone calls > > > > pertaining to a new sort of problem that has arisen > > > in the inner cities, > > > > and is now working it's way to smaller towns. It > > > seems that a new form > > > > of gang initiation is to go find as many pay phones > > > as possible and put > > > > a mixture of LSD and Strychnine onto the buttons. > > > This mixture is deadly > > > > to the human touch, and apparently, this has killed > > > some people on the > > > > east coast. Strychnine is a chemical used in rat > > > poison and is easily > > > > separated from the rest of the chemicals. When > > > mixed with LSD, it > > > > creates a substance that is easily absorbed into > > > the human flesh, and > > > > highly fatal. Please be careful if you are using a > > > pay phone anywhere. > > > > You may want to wipe it off, or just not use one at > > > all. If you have any > > > > questions, you can contact me at the links listed > > > below. Please be very > > > > careful. Let your friends and family know about > > > this potential hazard. > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me > > http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks > > http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/Casey3.wav <- Casey Kasem in rare form > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, >is the characteristic of one who knows." > >amber perry-mcquown > >akp2@acpub.duke.edu >amber@earthling.net >amber@marin.cc.ca.us > >http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 14:55:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17398 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 14:55:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 17390 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 14:55:32 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 14:55:32 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D9MEAMTE; Sun, 02 May 1999 10:55:16 EDT To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 07:56:26 -0700 Subject: disco biscuits review Message-ID: <19990502.075916.-5229.3.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 8-9,13-14,18-20 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk First, thank you Andy for coming to my rescue. Well I did like this party, I just wish more of my crew would have been there. Jessica, Sarahs, Demetrie, Sluati, and many others but mainly you guys are who I missed. Whoever was spinning in tha jungle room probably about 12 during the beginning of greg sandlers set was rockin it. Greg rocked it, as did J-Bot and others but I was kinda wandering around and watching the booth so those are really the sets I remember. I realize that this was not a harmony party, but it was kinda weird being at this party with a lot of people I've never seen before in my life. Watching the booth was pretty fun, being that it was in tha jungle room so when I was there I was in front dancing to dope music. Yeah so if you saw a girl with wild pink hair, blue eyebrows in this hoochiefied gray/silver tube dress that was me. Nice to meet cha. Another reason i dug this party was that it was at one of my favorite locations, Phoenix. Tha one thing that bugged was the whole non smoking of any kind rule, which just keeps smoking on tha sly. Man that was a drive tho. Thank God I had cool company. Peace, Theresa or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 14:59:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18739 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 14:59:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 18727 invoked by uid 233); 2 May 1999 14:59:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 12040 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 19:17:41 -0000 Received: from ww183.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.83) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 19:17:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 22180 invoked by uid 60001); 1 May 1999 19:17:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19990501191740.22179.qmail@ww183.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.83 by ww183 via web-mailer(M3.0.0.70) on Sat May 1 19:17:40 GMT 1999 Date: 1 May 99 12:17:40 PDT From: russell kinzie To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.70) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i am giving away copies of my mixtape. the style is hard and progressive trance. reply to this message and i will send it no charge. i only have a= 10 copies left. thanks russ allen Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 15:00:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19436 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 15:00:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 19410 invoked by uid 233); 2 May 1999 15:00:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 28805 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 23:50:06 -0000 Received: from law2-f5.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 23:50:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 21229 invoked by uid 0); 1 May 1999 23:49:38 -0000 Message-ID: <19990501234938.21228.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.142.5.201 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 01 May 1999 16:49:37 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.142.5.201] From: "Sharalee Baumgarner" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: All about me... Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 16:49:37 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_33dc9c6a_349e3de6$7824cc2a" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_33dc9c6a_349e3de6$7824cc2a Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; SFRAVES- here are some pictures of me from 9th grade, 10th grade and 10th grade again standing there with my friend Billy, and a really stupid form to let you know more about me, which I don't really believe lets you know more about me, but all well.... >Name: Sharalee Jean Baumgarner >sex: female >Age: 15 for 19 more days... >BDay: May 20th (born in '83) >heighth: 5'4 >weight: 105 >eye color: dark brown >hair color: dark brown >shoes you are wearing: 'black' KB & Company shoes >fave music: everything 'cept all that country garbage >fave thing to do: party >sisters: Amy 26, Shareen 17, Janessa 1 1/2, Tierra 1/2 >brothers: Ricky 23, Lesley 21, D.J. 18, Joshua 10, Perry 3 >moms: real-Mona 44, step-Sherri 35, foster-Sherri 49 >dads: real-Perry 45, foster-Dick 50 >Who do you live with- Mona and Shareen >What do you live in- A two bedroom apartment >Where do you live- In the Auburn Greens Apartments in the USA, in California, in Auburn, etc... >What do you wanna be- veterinarian/guitarist (although I still don't know how to play yet) >boyfriend- no >girlfriend- no >gay/bi/straight- straight I think >What are you doing right now- Drinkin a Ruby Red Squirt filling this out. >What'd you do at your first rave- Danced, got dehydrated, did E, got hyped up, got my first candies, hung out with some friends, celebrated my friend's 15th bday, went to the Harmony room mostly, watched the screen melt into different pictures, played with the lazers, played with glow sticks, played a lot, etc. I don't know!!! >Who'd you go with to your first rave- Well, I drove there with my friends Thesea, Billy, and Rhianda. 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boundary="============_-1286501893==_============" X-Sender: jessica@mail.peacedividend.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <3ad6d1ca.245b87db@aol.com> Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 21:49:59 -0700 To: MODA , TeKnODiVa@aol.com From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: Do you know what I look like. . . . Cc: SFraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --============_-1286501893==_============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hiya Moda, et al (gosh I hate to spam the gazillion folks that don't need images piling up in their mailboxes, but I do think it's a nice idea...) 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To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HI everyone.. well, I just got back from vibe creation 2 and let me tell ya.. WOW.. that is all i kan say.. not only did the musik ROCK... but there was sooooo much room to dance... it wasn't stuffy and it was actually pretty clean.. not to mention that it was my birthday ;) the only bad thing about it.. was the fact that there was no refills for water.. so i ended up paying about close to 8 dollars for water.. and the non-black light action that was going on ;( I have never seen 2nd and Jax like this.. but im actually kind of glad i did...i danced my bootie off.. and my feet are really sore...OUCH... but, i have never danced with such ease in all of my past 2nd and jax experiences.. so if u saw a kandy gurlee with a purple shirt and a yellow butterfly backpack and a beatfreaks visor(thank u aaron) with sparkly scrunchees and princess lea hairdo wearing lotsa kandee.. that was da burthday gurl :) Well anyways... that was my take on tha night...oh by the way.. the fans were great... even tho they were'nt very useful.. why dont more promoters use these HUGE fans... and i was bummed that i miss Happy Kid Marty's set.... but all in all.. a very good night.. it was probably one of the best birthdays ive ever had... thanx to all my friends... LOVE U... and ill see u all next weekend... PLUR...... Valerie AKA sparkles :) PS... RYAN.. dood.. i lost my keys as well as my little blinky light... one more added to the list of the missing.... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 16:12:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26422 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 16:12:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 26414 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 16:12:02 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 16:12:02 -0000 Received: from BreAthNYoO@aol.com (8000) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vKOJa02301 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 12:11:29 -0400 (EDT) From: BreAthNYoO@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 12:11:28 EDT Subject: *soMe UNBELIEVABLE iShh. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OoOoOOoOoOOoOoOOokkk.. CHECK THIS OUT. ON OUR WAY HOME FROM Asid Breaks 3.. we Are Driving down 8O NOrTh to SaCrAMeNto.. and WeRew Driving ( after an UNREAL EVENING ) and i take my shoesss off and look to my right.. and see this guy.. in a van with tinted windows.. Then i look a little closer and see a sign he is HOLDING..... ""show me your SEXY feet "" it sayz.. SO.. in all goood humor... goOd fun.. i take my soX off and Show him.. right.. and i look away and giggle to my girl friend and look back over to him.. and geT THIS!!! GEEETTT THIIISSSSSSSSS!!! the MUTHERFUCKING SICK BASTARD IS WACKING OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TO MY MUTHERFUCKING FEET YO.. I SWEAR TO GAWD.. WTFWTFTWF W H A T T H E F U C K.... so then.. i look back.. << double TAke>> AND HES HOLDING UP A PENT HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMY*~*~*LaWd. i cANT NOT BELIEVE THIS.. o MY o My O My ROtFLmaO* ok. well. sm:)e Love and Light sHaaaaAAaY and LiNz :=) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 17:06:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13940 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 17:06:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 13931 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 17:06:15 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 17:06:15 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (3939) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iOJNa24046; Sun, 2 May 1999 13:04:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 13:04:05 EDT Subject: Re: jungle-life & bass kru To: raver_hp@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/1/99 8:22:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, raver_hp@hotmail.com writes: << anyone else heard of this?.. jungle-life crew vs bass kru??.. well griff from jungle life told me about it at daybreakz and i just heard about it on kzsu 90.1.. this is gonna be PHAT!!.. 2 sic kru's.. jus goin off!!.. along wit MC Jamalski!!.. i dunno when this gonna happen thoo.. guess jus tune into kzsu stanford 90.1.. its gonna be durrin tha day thoo.. something like a BBQ they said.. well laaate.. david.. >> so the B.A.S.S. kru are going to be skratching and shit against the jungle life crew? hmmm i wonder how this is going to look. or is it going to be a danceathon dancefloor battle as in who can keep the most people brockin out on the floor..?? DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 17:55:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25594 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 17:55:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 25574 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 17:55:46 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 17:55:46 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com (3888) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vVMTa17023 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 13:54:35 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <37d56e91.245deb5a@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 13:54:34 EDT Subject: all this cyberfest crap!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok, so now i need to vent!!! DO NOT PROMOTE FOR CYBERFEST! i'll even go as far to say, don't bother going either! so after i was unable to get tix for happy kids on halloween, i was stuck going to cyberfest, but i thought, well geeze, since i'm on the guest list cuz i helped promote for this party, it shouldn't be so bad.... so i get there, and what the f*ck!??!?! not only am i not on the guest list, but at least 20 other kids standing around there aren't either... hhmmm, so some friends i know also promoted, geeze what a suprise! none of their names were on the list either... so Cool World can bring as many big name DJ's groups, or whatever, but as far as i'm concerned i'd rather sit at home alone in my room in silence before i would support any party of theirs... i mean what kind of production company screws over hella kids that helped them make that nite a success?!?!? (finacially speaking..seeing that the party hella sucked anyways!!) ok..i'm done,... so i WILL NOT see any of you at cyberfest!!! have a great day, even though the wheather is kinda yucky right now..... love and hugs and kisses, tina From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 19:00:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14820 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 19:00:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 14810 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 19:00:47 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 19:00:47 -0000 Received: from Gammbino@aol.com (8021) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vQMGa02293 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 15:00:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Gammbino@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 15:00:12 EDT Subject: PAgIng: Telene To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey everyone and Telene I was wondering does anyone know Telene's E-mail addy or how to get a hold of her? Cause I saw her @ All Play Together and thought she was hella cool. Talk to u all l8er Kent From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 19:09:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17340 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 19:09:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 17330 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 19:09:44 -0000 Received: from web204.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.104) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 19:09:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990502191044.16279.rocketmail@web204.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.255.83.172] by web204.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 02 May 1999 12:10:44 PDT Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 12:10:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Devon McCauley Subject: Shafted at Hi! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 19:14:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19971 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 19:14:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 19958 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 19:14:31 -0000 Received: from mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (HELO mailsorter-105-1.bryant.webtv.net) (209.240.198.119) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 19:14:31 -0000 Received: from mailtod-142.iap.bryant.webtv.net (mailtod-142.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.198.129]) by mailsorter-105-1.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.gso.08Dec97) with ESMTP id MAA02554; Sun, 2 May 1999 12:14:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from production@localhost) by mailtod-142.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/mt.gso.26Feb98) id MAA29495; Sun, 2 May 1999 12:14:27 -0700 (PDT) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQvW5QY3MDYyn4dzcRzR8lgoL8ygwIUFuo48bpNV+PJayXmuOe1DreTDtw= From: pEEEkagirl@webtv.net (rachelle) Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 12:14:27 -0700 (PDT) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Hi! (pre-vorg party) Message-ID: <2593-372CA413-6950@mailtod-142.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm glad for all of you who had fun at the "Hi!" party (by vorg). I'm writing a review for those of us who didn't even get in... We waited in line for hours before the staff came out and told us we wouldnt be getting in. Even though we had valid pre-sale tickets, apparently there were fake tickets going around; which we knew about from the message two hours before we left our house that evening. We assumed that action would be taken and the people with non-valid tickets would not be allowed in and no tickets would be sold at the door; it was supposedly only pre-sale!!! However, after waiting in line they told us they would be refunding money, because they couldnt let us in. They had already over-sold the party by midnight. I have to say I was very disappointed by the way it was handled considering they knew about the fake tickets and they misinformed all of us about the fact that the party was only pre-sale. We went out of our way to get the tickets in Sunnyvale, (we live in San Francisco). And they told us we had to get refunds from the location the tickets were purchased. Even after they sold 200 tickets at the door that night at, at least $13 a piece; knowing there were 200 people who had already bought their pre-sale tickets. I'm very disappointed, since we were all very excited to be at that party that night and support vorg productions; however, I cannot bring myself to ever support them knowing that they blatently over sold the party. Anyway, I just feel that there are so many productions out there, I can support those of them who remain true to their word and keep the best interest of the kids who take the time and effort to get their tickets ahead of time. Hopefully vorg will learn from this and take precautions next time to avoid dissappointing a lot of people..... wHaT haPpEnEd to thE "R" iN PLUR!!! Hope you all have a great day! Love, rAchElLE & LaUrA From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 19:17:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21676 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 19:17:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 21664 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 19:17:51 -0000 Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (209.185.123.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 19:17:51 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by hotbot.com; Sun May 2 12:17:13 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 12:17:13 -0700 From: "FREQ MAGNET" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: on Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: acid breaks.. X-Sender-Ip: 205.188.197.174 Organization: HotBot Mail (http://mail.hotbot.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk this party was tight! :) i liked how it was set up. they had out linoleum for all the b-boys. hehe. when we got there, sideburn slim's GIRLFRIEND was spinning out for the first time @ a party! wow, that must have been so exciting for her! hehe. she was pretty good, too. that white boi (no offense--i'm just kidding) justin jacobs or something (i forget his name--he doesn't really have a dj name) was making me hella happy playing old skool tracks (not really old school, just from when i was like 12--like mc breed & stuff *black boy black boy turn that shit down...*) hehe. of course, mc jamalski went MIA again. what's up? where is he? oh well... there was some gurl *mc* during eva's set. she was bald. she was cool just cuz she was a girl, but she didn't really do much for the jungle. whatever though, she's a girl and she's representin! hehe. i love it when girls are all up in the mix. girl dj's are soooo cool. (dj sage is a hottie!!) wow. whenever i go to parties i look out for siphon & hak (esp siphon) cuz they're hella dope. so i got down to their set. the sucky thing about last night in the jungle room (i don't know if anyone noticed, but...) 2 different dj's played like the same mix of *i got 5 on it* & missy elliot... i guess it's a new record or something?? i don't know. so i took E last night after not doing it for a while. omg, RN's are the best i've ever had--i've tried them twice, and they're on hit!! i didn't really feel like dancing, so i just kicked it in the jungle room behind the speakers--i met some people & had some meaningful conversations with people that i grew up with but never really bothered to talk to (mike). that was hella cool. i got some shit resolved. oh, and i saw cindy!! :) yay for cindy. i met some of naomi's friends, and i made some new ones (sabrina, carrie & yvonne). and that gurl from seattle... so anyway, i had hella fun last night. and as always after a party, i could still hear the beat even after the music was gone... hehe. *smile* catrina HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 19:25:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24106 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 19:25:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 24097 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 19:25:53 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 19:25:53 -0000 Received: from JanetBoy7@aol.com (14415) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vCHEa16060 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 15:25:09 -0400 (EDT) From: JanetBoy7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 15:25:07 EDT Subject: Re: all this cyberfest crap!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 188 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/2/99 6:56:00 PM, MoonChyld1@aol.com writes: <> =09I'll be at CyberFest!! CyberFest was my 1st Rave and it was Awesome!!! I helped promote last year (a little) but I was never told I would be on the=20 guest list so it wasn't' a suprise to me. I am also helping out this year=20 too. I really don't care if I get in free or not? But I'll be there! :) =09CyberFest was a nite full of memories, it was a nite where I had=20 feelings I never had before, saw things I never saw before, and heard music=20 that could make you bounce off the walls! It was nite not to be forgotten. =20 But I guess to all the old Ravers it was just some big massive.. Who knew?? ~#*.:=95{LoVe JanetBoy}=95:.*#~=20 =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=20 *P*L*U*R*=20 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 20:14:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7089 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 20:14:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 7079 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 20:14:31 -0000 Received: from law2-f21.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.21) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 20:14:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 39855 invoked by uid 0); 2 May 1999 20:14:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990502201405.39854.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.142.3.111 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 02 May 1999 13:14:05 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.142.3.111] From: "Sharalee Baumgarner" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: sorry :( Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 13:14:05 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_2b5e613b_7efaf709$1145fb17" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_2b5e613b_7efaf709$1145fb17 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_5a7e7f7c_7efaf709$1145fb17" ------=_NextPart_001_5a7e7f7c_7efaf709$1145fb17 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; I'm sorry if I screwed up any of your comps by sending all those pictures.. It never screws up my comp, so I didn't really think of that. Sorry. One of those pictures 9th grade, looks like shit anyways, I had fu**ed up allergies that day, but the picture that is alright, I didn't even receive. (the 10th grade pic. of me in a white dress)... Guess that's what I deserve.. :( I won't send anymore... sorry. ~sharalee... ------=_NextPart_001_5a7e7f7c_7efaf709$1145fb17 Content-type: text/html

    I'm sorry if I screwed up any of your comps by sending all those pictures.. It never screws up my comp, so I didn't really think of that. Sorry.  One of those pictures 9th grade, looks like shit anyways, I had fu**ed up allergies that day, but the picture that is alright, I didn't even receive.  (the 10th grade pic. of me in a white dress)... Guess that's what I deserve.. :( I won't send anymore... sorry.
~sharalee...

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sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk =) Thursday: Eklektic...Haven't been for a while, and the last time I went, it was at Kate O'Briens. Nice spot, "Ricos". I especially dug on the artwork, props to Spectr. Beautiful atmospheric set by Kaos. Unfortunately, I left before Noel's set got really rollin, but I'm sure it was good as always. :) Friday: Headed down south to Sporty's "Have a Nice Rave" in LA. Gotta admit, the car rides down south are half the fun, as we watched "Planet of the Apes" while barrelling down a full-moon lit highway. Plus the company was entertaining, as I rode with gEoff ;), Skye, and Kurt. We missed Bryan Lee's set :( but caught Christopher Lawrence's. Very nice, def. worth the drive. But my highlight was gEoff's set...he worked the LA trance crowd like a pro! His track selection and mixing were immaculate. Thanks gEoff, Skye, and Kurt for everything... :) Saturday: Slept for about 2-3 hours after getting back from LA, dragged my sorry ass over to this block party in the Berkeley Foothills where gEoff ;) and Skye were spinning (once again), but I missed gEoff's set :( Got to hear Blacklight Dave spin: real nice CD mixing! Wei, from Isolate Records, went on next, with some real scary stuff. He was screaming into his left headphone about "something something, mother f*cking, something something house..." The crowd at the party was a strange mix: not bad, just strange. :P Went to repark my car, as I was half in a tow-away zone, but couldn't find another spot for about a mile and a half away. :( So I trudge over to deepbeep's house, where I hooked up with him and 3 LA kids. We decided to head to 2nd/Jackson for the 420 Kids' party. Nice! 2nd/Jackson was well ventilated and cool, only about half as full as normal. Pretty good, considering I saw no flyers for this event, and Acid Breaks was going on... Ian's set had just started when we arrived, and as always, he was right on! Too bad he didn't have more time on the decks, IMHO, 1.5 to 2 hour sets are better. Ian's mom came to check him out, she's a sweetie! Good kids come from good parents, and Ian's one of the best. Sunday: It's off to Sunshine Daydream for me, and then Spundae, to hear Stryke spin... Love, Michael o)-< From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 20:33:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12589 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 20:33:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 12571 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 20:33:27 -0000 Received: from web219.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.119) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 20:33:27 -0000 Message-ID: <19990502203443.3237.rocketmail@web219.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [153.37.15.212] by web219.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 02 May 1999 13:34:43 PDT Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 13:34:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Devon McCauley Subject: Poorly Planned Pre-Party to Vorg To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It's pretty pathetic what happened Friday night. 200 hundred people let in at the door, when they knew twenty-four hours in advance that the fake tickets were out there. I guess that shows just how much they care about the kids that were really interested in the party and went to the effort to get presale. When I started raving, I was convinced that it was all about the love. Granted, nobody's perfect, but when did the dollar become more important than the vibe. I don't want to have to wait years before the scene isn't so popular to be able to enjoy a party and not worry about getting in, getting ripped off, or any of the other problems we face now, with every party turning into a massive. I hope Vorg learns its lesson after Friday night; you can't treat people like dollar signs. I still have faint hope that there is some piece of information that I wasn't aware of that justifies their actions on Friday, but as I said, that hope is faint. Hoping this is just a phase.... Devon From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 21:15:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20328 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 21:15:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 20312 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 21:15:36 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 21:15:36 -0000 Received: from lal-99-98.reshall.berkeley.edu (1Cust216.tnt1.sfo1.da.uu.net [208.250.183.216]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA17073; Sun, 2 May 1999 14:14:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990430192321.0092bf00@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: swat37@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 19:23:21 -0700 To: Naomi Thompson , "'Jess ica'" , Nuku , "Macadio G." From: swati shah Subject: Re: Pimpdaddy 3 Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk honestly, "two live crew should not play at a rave?" why do we say such judgemental things on this list? if you don't want to hear it, go to another room. Aren't raves about diversity? swati From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 21:18:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22315 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 21:18:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 22306 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 21:18:33 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 21:18:33 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com (7815) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iXJZa02290; Sun, 2 May 1999 17:17:14 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: <4a4adc84.245e1ada@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 17:17:14 EDT Subject: Re: jungle-life & bass kru To: Megatron45@aol.com, raver_hp@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i dono, the bass kru is tight n all, but rinse is a dick, he thinx he's real cool.... i give them props, but its all the music they spin u know? and i dont think they could scratch at well i dono, ok, late -ralph From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 21:24:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24908 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 21:24:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 24900 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 21:24:19 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 21:24:19 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com (7815) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id ySXOa13012; Sun, 2 May 1999 17:23:04 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: <8f66768b.245e1c38@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 17:23:04 EDT Subject: Re: acid breaks.. To: quietriot@hotbot.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk acid breaks was cool, lotsa room, the dj sets were alright, rinse and flux were missin somethin since jamalski was gonerz as usual no? dj stryke really tore it up, i hadnt seen him perfom till llast night, well, ok....... did anyone c me? i had a white shit on with a dragon in the middle, the desing was blue, and i had a blue baseball shirt under it, black cargo pant and a discman bag across my chest, alright late -rlaph From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 21:47:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1066 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 21:47:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 1058 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 21:47:22 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 21:47:22 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (8071) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vAFUa16142 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 17:46:51 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <92258ec6.245e21cb@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 17:46:51 EDT Subject: children of the sun To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ooooooh i am sooooo pissed right now!!!!!!! i just got a notice from my theatre company saying that i have a performance of my play on may 21st!!! i was supposed to help set up and so is my ride so now i might not be able to go! so if anyone can think of a good excuse( i know i know, its really pathetic that i am gonna skip out on my play to go to a rave but you have to know my situation better, lemme just tell you that it is WAY more worth it to go to the rave, especially children of the sun), please e-mail me. alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 21:47:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1734 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 21:47:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 1726 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 21:47:53 -0000 Received: from law-f88.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.151) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 21:47:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 94278 invoked by uid 0); 2 May 1999 21:47:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19990502214726.94277.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 152.207.104.137 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 02 May 1999 14:47:25 PDT X-Originating-IP: [152.207.104.137] From: "danny b" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Hi djs anyone? Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 14:47:25 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Im wondering what anyone who got into Hi! thought of Alias. He spun an extra hour or so because another dj didn't show up or somethin. just curious... --decibel-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 21:48:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2509 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 21:48:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 2480 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 21:48:49 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 21:48:49 -0000 Received: from KaNdeEKlD@aol.com (7820) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vUEKa15861 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 17:47:54 -0400 (EDT) From: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com Message-ID: <67808562.245e220c@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 17:47:56 EDT Subject: Sunday parties?? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk does anyone know of any parties going on today for peeps under 21? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 21:59:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6405 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 21:59:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 6394 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 21:59:29 -0000 Received: from mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.118) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 21:59:29 -0000 Received: from mailtod-142.iap.bryant.webtv.net (mailtod-142.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.198.129]) by mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.gso.08Dec97) with ESMTP id OAA15347; Sun, 2 May 1999 14:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from production@localhost) by mailtod-142.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/mt.gso.26Feb98) id OAA16583; Sun, 2 May 1999 14:59:28 -0700 (PDT) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhQwT0mzedPdiqQvwpmZeYIVu/xbIgIVAL6gV5wO3cWI19Se+widIibmyZqS From: pEEEkagirl@webtv.net (rachelle) Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 14:59:27 -0700 (PDT) To: Sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: PLUR Message-ID: <2589-372CCABF-18058@mailtod-142.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey im just curious kids...what has happened to PLUR?! I mean, ive been to some great parties lately, but ive been to some bad ones too. Im just curious if anyone else has noticed less respect, weirder and not as many good vibes, and less love in the scene..bye From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 22:10:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9526 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 22:10:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 9518 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 22:10:50 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 22:10:50 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA07100; Sun, 2 May 1999 17:10:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mon-ca10-50.ix.netcom.com(206.216.188.242) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma007083; Sun May 2 17:10:13 1999 Message-ID: <372C62B3.7FBD@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 14:35:31 +0000 From: Jennifer and Daniel Herron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: OXnymphXO@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: children of the sun References: <92258ec6.245e21cb@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OXnymphXO@aol.com wrote: > > ooooooh i am sooooo pissed right now!!!!!!! i just got a notice from my > theatre company saying that i have a performance of my play on may 21st!!! i > was supposed to help set up and so is my ride so now i might not be able to > go! so if anyone can think of a good excuse( i know i know, its really > pathetic that i am gonna skip out on my play to go to a rave but you have to > know my situation better, lemme just tell you that it is WAY more worth it to > go to the rave, especially children of the sun), please e-mail me. > > alida Alida, This is in no way meant to disrespect you, however as a fellow actress I think it is disrespectful that you are trying to get out of your show. We tend to forget that accepting the part is a contract to be at rehearsal on time, know our shit and perform in all the shows. Yeah sure I've been bummed when I've had to change plans because of a performance conflict but there will ALWAYS be another rave..Children of the Sun or no. If you want to flake out on your company fine but don't complain when you don't get the next part. Here are two things to think about...1.It is never just you up there...you screw up/flake whatever you are screwing with others. 2.There is always someone else waiting in the wings. Jennifer aka Chrysallys From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 22:28:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13904 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 22:28:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 13896 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 22:28:04 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 22:28:04 -0000 Received: from Taiida@aol.com (8045) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vWPAa16142 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 18:27:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Taiida@aol.com Message-ID: <195cfa6c.245e2b53@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 18:27:31 EDT Subject: KRR: GOOD VIBES AT OTHER PLACES BESIDES RAVES To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok, I started going to raves about 6 months ago because I have a hard time meeting people and at raves, I could go up to anybody and start talking to them. Well, that gave me a lot of confidence and now when I go to Cheers (a club in Sunnyvale) all them time, I can do the same thing and everybody is totally cool with everyone. Everyone there is just like at raves. They are one big happy family. I just wanna thank all you wonderful ravers (especially Mook, Steph, Guy, Lydia, CeL, Sami) for getting me into raves. Just a little thought I thought I'd share. Take Care ya'll!!! Love/Hugs **muuaahhh!!!** Tami =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 22:39:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16337 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 22:39:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 16329 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 22:39:32 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 22:39:32 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (8051) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id uQYVa24952; Sun, 2 May 1999 18:37:56 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <40451323.245e2dc3@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 18:37:55 EDT Subject: Re: children of the sun To: whtrabt@ix.netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i agree with you entirely but you have to understand how this production campany runs and how they have treated me, besides the fact that i had priorities to set up for children of the sun before my play. if i dont go, that means they lose four sets of hands to help set up and my friends that are going with me wont be able to go either. and if i dont go to my play, it really isnt that big of a deal because my part in play is easy to adjust to be taken over. it's pretty small because this is my first time with the company. and i know, i know, there are no small parts in the theatre but you really have to be in my situation to understand where i am coming from and to see the lack of respect i have gotten from the this theatre. i appreciate the kind manner you used in your letter, rather than choosing to just bash me. please try to understand the predicament i am in. Alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 22:46:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18682 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 22:46:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 18674 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 22:46:30 -0000 Received: from m16.boston.juno.com (205.231.101.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 22:46:30 -0000 Received: (from trigometric@juno.com) by m16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D9M88248; Sun, 02 May 1999 18:46:16 EDT To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Cc: Trigometric@juno.com Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:09:16 -0700 Subject: The Annual Migration to Something Else Message-ID: <19990427.010924.2878.0.Trigometric@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,19-20,25-35 From: Spiral of Evolution Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Maybe it's that time of year. I'm just dropping this line to let you guys know that it's time for me to go. I can't explain it very well but there are times when I look at the scene and everything else relative to where I'm going in life and, for reasons unknown to me, around this time of the year, I find a sort of disenchantment with the whole thing. The paradox that I find myself in is where I have this complete, absolute love for the music; but, at the same time, I find I don't have much of a connection to the constituents of the scene. It's nothing of a condescending message to these constituents, it's just that at this point in my life, it's better if I just don't deal with it. I have a lot going on with college, girlfriend, djing, and a freagin' supervisor position at a grocery store. It just seems like it's kind of too much right now. So, as a result, I must depart from the scene all together. Aside from the shows that I'm currently booked for, I will not play anymore parties until I personally feel I'm ready to do so.................'cept for Quest parties, I'm always down to play at Quest. I'm sure that the move I'm currently making here will be one that will greatly help my personal and spiritual growth. I will be back. I just don't know when. Just wanted to also say that for all of those people that I've met, both personally and electronically, it was a great pleasure meeting all of ya'll and I hope that our paths somehow cross in the future. Until then, keep the vibe strong and play safe. Good Bye Everyone. You can still reach me at this address also. Love Triad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All times being relative; what time does Munich arrive at this train? --Nietzche or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 02 23:27:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 164 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 23:27:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 153 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 23:27:31 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 23:27:31 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com (259) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNVa002977 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 19:26:44 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <7c10c7db.245e3934@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 19:26:44 EDT Subject: what's going on 2nite??? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok, so i have no school tomorrow, and i really wanna go out and do something... but i'm only 18, so what's going on 2nite that isn't 21+???? thankx! love and hugs and kisses, tina From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 00:07:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10960 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 00:07:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 10923 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 00:07:03 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 00:07:03 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (3888) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3ZHYa05684 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 20:06:05 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <984d03e5.245e426c@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 20:06:04 EDT Subject: a few words on Hi and the weekend To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/2/99 12:14:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, pEEEkagirl@webtv.net writes: << Even though we had valid pre-sale tickets, apparently there were fake tickets going around; which we knew about from the message two hours before we left our house that evening. We assumed that action would be taken and the people with non-valid tickets would not be allowed in and no tickets would be sold at the door; it was supposedly only pre-sale!!! However, after waiting in line they told us they would be refunding money, because they couldnt let us in. >> First off.. >Hopefully karma will be getting back to these people who copied the tickets very soon. I can't believe someone would be so desperate to go to a party, that they would dick everyone over like this. Too bad those of you that didn't get in didn't make it out to Lunar Enlightenment where you could have partied for free =) but I think it is important to take the time to make presale tickets that can't be duplicated, or at least can be told apart from ones that have been duplicated. I know it gets expensive to laminate tickets or print out ones with stamps on them or whatever, but the trouble it saves is worth it. Think how many people had to be paid bacK?? oh well.. that's my little word on that. Got to see my boi Bryan Lee last night! YEAH! LA style trance up in an empty T-room. I'm ready to hibernate until summer. then it's time for the CAMPOUTs if yanno what I mean. hugsn'stuff, trice thet tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 00:44:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20766 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 00:44:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 20727 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 00:44:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO next-mail.hightrend.com) (209.31.33.216) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 00:44:47 -0000 Received: from alldigitalclub.com (10.1.1.69 [10.1.1.69]) by next-mail.hightrend.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id GGJAQL9H; Sun, 2 May 1999 17:53:23 -0700 Message-ID: <3703AFBC.5CA7CEE7@alldigitalclub.com> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 17:41:18 +0000 From: Vitaly Golomb Reply-To: vitaly@alldigitalclub.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rachelle , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Hi! (pre-vorg party) References: <2593-372CA413-6950@mailtod-142.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Rachelle, I'm sorry you didn't get in, and if you listen to the voice mail you'll find out what happened. Also every time I updated the voice mail, I said there WILL be limited 200 tickets at the door, and we stopped the door sales way before we got to two hundred. Again I do appologize for the inconveniences but they are due to the little ass holes that decided to make a quick buck and fuck over a party that was NOT OVER SOLD. We are working on finding the counterfiters and teaching them a lesson, I personally think it's the same people as always. The refunds will be available the week of May 10th. And the reason they have to be returned to the location you purchased them, is because we don't want to refund the fake tickets we turned away. Again we appologize for the inconvenience, don't loose faith in us, after all we didn't take the R out of PLUR, the people that made the fake tickets did. "VORG" this Saturday will most likely be strictly pre-sale, and the tickets have been modified to get rid of any possible fakes. Hope every one had fun. Thanks for your support, Vitaly, VORG P.S. Never buy tickets from anybody other then the authorized locations! rachelle wrote: > I'm glad for all of you who had fun at the "Hi!" party (by vorg). I'm > writing a review for those of us who didn't even get in... > > We waited in line for hours before the staff came out and told us we > wouldnt be getting in. Even though we had valid pre-sale tickets, > apparently there were fake tickets going around; which we knew about > from the message two hours before we left our house that evening. We > assumed that action would be taken and the people with non-valid tickets > would not be allowed in and no tickets would be sold at the door; it was > supposedly only pre-sale!!! However, after waiting in line they told us > they would be refunding money, because they couldnt let us in. They had > already over-sold the party by midnight. I have to say I was very > disappointed by the way it was handled considering they knew about the > fake tickets and they misinformed all of us about the fact that the > party was only pre-sale. We went out of our way to get the tickets in > Sunnyvale, (we live in San Francisco). And they told us we had to get > refunds from the location the tickets were purchased. Even after they > sold 200 tickets at the door that night at, at least $13 a piece; > knowing there were 200 people who had already bought their pre-sale > tickets. > > I'm very disappointed, since we were all very excited to be at that > party that night and support vorg productions; however, I cannot bring > myself to ever support them knowing that they blatently over sold the > party. Anyway, I just feel that there are so many productions out > there, I can support those of them who remain true to their word and > keep the best interest of the kids who take the time and effort to get > their tickets ahead of time. Hopefully vorg will learn from this and > take precautions next time to avoid dissappointing a lot of people..... > > wHaT haPpEnEd to thE "R" iN PLUR!!! > > Hope you all have a great day! > > Love, > rAchElLE & LaUrA From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 00:51:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22877 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 00:51:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 22863 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 00:51:08 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 00:51:08 -0000 Received: from Kandehata@aol.com (8052) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id xOQIa20980; Sun, 2 May 1999 20:49:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Kandehata@aol.com Message-ID: <2c7bd35a.245e4c91@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 20:49:21 EDT Subject: Re: Hi! (pre-vorg party) To: vitaly@alldigitalclub.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/2/99 5:45:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, vitaly@alldigitalclub.com writes: << "VORG" this Saturday will most likely be strictly pre-sale, >> MOSTLY????ok people didnt get to attend ur party wit a pre-sale on fri...and now ur saying that ur MASSIVE will MOST LIKELY be pre-sale only????u should have said....VoRG WILL BE PRE-SALE ONLY!!!!! i jus think it is funny how U VITALY CANT EVEN THROW A "PRE-PARTY" without any hassle...how in the hell are you going to throw a MASSIVE without any hassles???can u plez tell me this??? Thanks, A From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 01:28:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2757 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 01:28:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 2749 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 01:28:29 -0000 Received: from web302.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.184) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 01:28:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503012955.20902.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.9.100] by web302.yahoomail.com; Sun, 02 May 1999 18:29:55 PDT Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 18:29:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Gosiewski Subject: Pro FYI-Studio Audio Gear Sale............ To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1957747793-925694995=:19684" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --0-1957747793-925694995=:19684 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Here are some great deals on studio/DJ gear for those that are Interested. Some of the stuff (ie: The aural exciter with Big bottom!) would be great in a DJ FX Rack! Note: forwarded message attached. --0-1957747793-925694995=:19684 Content-Type: message/rfc822 X-Apparently-To: stefango@yahoo.com via mdd301.yahoomail.com Received: from md.egroups.com (207.138.41.139) by mta118.yahoomail.com with SMTP; 2 May 1999 18:18:15 -0700 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by md.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 May 1999 02:15:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact eyecandy-owner@egroups.com X-Mailing-List: eyecandy@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/eyecandy/ Reply-To: eyecandy@egroups.com Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-eyecandy@egroups.com Received: (qmail 27633 invoked by uid 7770); 3 May 1999 01:15:45 -0000 Received: from corpmail1.jps.net (209.63.224.250) by vault.egroups.com with SMTP; 3 May 1999 01:15:45 -0000 Received: from woodymou (209-239-212-40.lax.jps.net [209.239.212.40]) by corpmail1.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA24456; Sun, 2 May 1999 18:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <005d01be9502$588a89a0$28d4efd1@access.webcombo.net> From: "Aj" To: Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 18:12:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Subject: [eyecandy] Fw: Studio Gear Sale............ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 3247 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, May 01, 1999 3:45 AM Subject: Studio Gear Sale............ > Please let me know if you would like to buy anything off this list. > > > ada mp1 $175 > alesis 1622 mixer $250 > alesis 3630 $150 > alesis ai2 $250 > alesis midiverb 4 new cond. $250 obo > alesis monitor 1's $250 > alesis ra 100 $200 > alesis sr16 near new cond w/ dust cover $180 > api 550a -1 eqs $750 each obo > api 553 eq 4 of them $550 each > audio technica 3525 new in box $250 > aurel exciter w/ big bottom (missing knob) $175 obo > barbetta keyboard amp- 15 inch spkr-mint w/ manual $700 obo > bass spectrum $200 > bbe sonic maximizer 422 $150 obo > behringer dualfex II $200 > behringer xr 2000 intelligate $275 obo > cm automation vca's/controller make rasonable offer > dbx 128 ii enhancer $125 > dbx 155 $200 > dbx 166a new cond. $250 > digitech 256 xl $175 > emu orbit v 1 $500 > emu proformance 1 $175 obo > emu proformance 1 piano module $175 > emu sp 1200 grey $1,000 > ensoniq dp4 $600 obo > eventide h 3000 s $1300 obo > eventide h 949 $450 > fostex d 90 $800 obo > ibanez sdr 1000 + $500 obo > korg 707 $200 > korg a3 $250 > korg ix300 new w/ box $900 > korg n264 new in box $800 obo > korg sdd2000 $200 > korg t3 cases books and stand, new $700 obo > korg tr-rack w/ sound diver $900 > kurzweil 1000 gx $250 > kurzweil 1000 sx string expander $250 > kurzweil hx $225 > kuzweil 1000 px $250 obo > lexicon lxp 15 w/ manual $350 obo > lexicon pcm 70 ver 3 $1,100 > mackie cr 1604 $450 > oberheim matrix 1000 $325 > orban/parasound sibilance controller $150 > orchestral expansion board $200 obo > panasonic sv3700 $650 obo > proteus fx $250 > quadraverb $175 > quadraverb plus $200 > roland d550 $400 > roland dep 3 $125 > roland jd 990 $600 obo > roland m-160 line mixer w/ custom snake $250 > roland m480 48 ch mixer $450 obo > roland mc 303 groove box $350 > roland mc 500 mk 2 $250 > roland mks 10 $250 > roland mks 20 $350 obo > roland r5 drum mach $200 > roland sde 1000 $175 > roland spd 11 $450 obo > roland srv 330 mint $550 > roland vp 70 vocoder $350 obo > roland w30 $450 > senheiser mkh 435t make reasonable offer > sony hrgp5 new in box $300 obo > sony r7 $450 > tascam 2516 mixer w/ stand $850 obo > tc elec. m2000 $950 > tc electronics 2290 $1,000 > tc electronics tc 1140 parametric eq pre amp $200 > yamaha 01v still under warranty, new $1,500 > yamaha 03d + adat interface $2650 obo > yamaha anx1 new in box $700 obo > yamaha dmp 11 $300 > yamaha h 7000 pwr amp make reasonable offer > yamaha pro mix 1 $675 > yamaha rev 7 $400 obo > yamaha spx 90 mark 2 $250 > yamaha tx16w midi sampler w/ 12 disc library $350 obo > > > I am in the los angeles area. 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Visit http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/49 for full details. eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/eyecandy http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications --0-1957747793-925694995=:19684-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 02:08:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13365 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 02:08:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 13356 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 02:08:16 -0000 Received: from lateral.lateral.net (HELO relay.lateral.net) (193.128.6.183) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 02:08:16 -0000 Received: from userb714.uk.uudial.com ([193.149.83.189] helo=cookiemonster) by relay.lateral.net with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 10e8BH-0005pZ-00; Mon, 3 May 1999 03:10:04 +0100 From: "Cindy Kawakami" To: "Maxik" , Subject: RE: dj kEMISTRY Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 03:09:22 +0100 Message-ID: <003a01be9509$f596d620$bd5395c1@cookiemonster.lateral.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <001001be905d$381aeec0$b40fd1d1@maxik.slip.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > How did it happen? Whose fault is it? Friday April 30, 4:01 PM DJ killed by 'freak' flying catseye By John Sturgis One of the London club scene's leading DJs died in a freak accident when a catseye was dislodged by a truck and flew through her car windscreen, hitting her on the head. Kemi Olusanya, who performed under the name Kemistry, died instantly on the M3 in the early hours of Sunday. Ms Olusanya, 35, from Finsbury Park, was a close friend and business partner of "drum and bass" millionaire musician Goldie. She suffered fatal injuries in the accident, near Winchester. Ms Olusanya was a passenger in a Volkswagen Golf GTI given to her and her DJ partner Jayne "Storm" Connelly by their friend Goldie. The catseye was dislodged by a Nissan Cabstar truck driven by Naeem Akhtar, 26, of Ilford. Neither driver was injured in the incident. Ms Connelly, 34, who was driving the Golf at the time of the accident, is said to be devastated by her friend's death. A Hampshire police spokesman said: "This was a freak accident. Catseyes do occasionally come loose." Since Ms Olusanya's death several London night clubs have held a minute's silence on their dance floors and tonight a show on Radio One will be dedicated to her. Adrian Sykes, who runs Goldie's Metalheadz record label, said: "She was one of the very biggest names in drum and bass. Everyone is devastated by her death. There have been all sorts of tributes and Fabio and Grooverider are going to dedicate their Radio One show to Kemi tonight." Kemistry had been a founder of the Metal-headz night at The Blue Note in Hoxton, The Complex in Islington and now Dingwalls in Camden. This weekend's Metal-headz night will again be held in her honour, Mr Sykes said. Scott Manson, editor of Ministry magazine, said: "Kemistry was one of the very few female DJs on the drum and bass scene but she was in no way a novelty. " She was widely respected and had travelled the world, becoming more and more acknowledged. "In a year or so I think she would have been one of the very biggest names around." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 02:33:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20099 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 02:33:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 20087 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 02:33:28 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 02:33:28 -0000 Received: from Kitana3737@aol.com (8042) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id nXRVa13017; Sun, 2 May 1999 22:31:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Kitana3737@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 22:31:08 EDT Subject: Re: dj kEMISTRY To: cindy@lodge.com, maxik@slip.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk thanks for the info..... :) now maybe i`m reeaally dense but what`s a catseye?? :T sounds like such a freak accident..... unfortunate to happen to anyone, but especially her....... i`m really hitting myself for not seeing kemistry&storm when i could have. but i guess life is just like that huh? muchlove, ~*MiCheLLe*~ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 03:01:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27926 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 03:01:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 27917 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 03:01:52 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 03:01:52 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (8002) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3CNLa16058 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 23:00:09 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <73870468.245e6b38@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 23:00:08 EDT Subject: Speaking of Karma... (not really rave related, but kinda) To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey, well I mentioned two weeks ago that my friend overdosed at a party and when he got taken out my jacket got stollen along with a bunch of other stuff. So saturday night my friend (who had all his shit stollen along with my jacket) and I were at Vibecreation and this guy is there wearing my friend's pants and backpack and MY JACKET!! Someone's gotta lotta nerve, right?? but it turns out his friend had "given" him all the stuff and he was totally cool about giving it all back. So I got my dope Jacket back!! i'm really happy and for everyone who's ever lost something at a party.. there is hope!! Now if someone could just find my honker from cloudfactory??? hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 03:25:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7304 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 03:25:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 7254 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 03:25:41 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 03:25:41 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com (574) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vWNBa25646 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 23:24:28 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: <2f618086.245e70e9@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 23:24:25 EDT Subject: VIBE CREATIONS*** To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk omg i totally went off on saturday nite. we were in line for like an hour until i remembered acid breaks3 was the same nite!! I was so stoked that 2nd and jax might acutally be not crowded! and to my utter delight! IT WASNT!!! i was jumpin and skippin around all nite! i kinda wore myself out early on in the night and was too tired to dance to mars (first time i seen him and had room to dance!) i musta met so many people that nite! (i wash sober too ^_^). so lesse what happened? 1) i got to run around and skip in 2nd and jax all nite 2) i took some of my friends flyers so he could dance and made hella friends passin em oout. 3) i told alot of people mah starfish story ^_^ made em smile. 4) celebrated valeries b day! *happy BERFDAY VAL*** 5)danced until my legs wouldnt let me no more 5)met "my name is lara this is my first time on E" gurl. hehe she was so gone i was kinda sad. it was her first rave too and i was kinda against her friends letting her drop e on her first rave but oh well. im sure everyone at the party got to meet her lol she was kinda flowing from person to person :P 6) got real happy when i found out the glow stix were cheap!!! (yay i can buy meself some water now! heheh) 7)brought my parents camcorder to thah party and got some good footage before accidentally droppin mah ackpack :) and now the focus and zoom is permenantly FUBAR ("uh yeah mom it musta just been a really old camera...") so hopefully the little flashlight taped to it did the trick and i didnt record all black and some noise ^_^ okie great pawty tho i had so much fun and i hope next time i wont have to werk before so i can dance all NITE like val and susan. -aaron (orion) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 03:26:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8059 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 03:26:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 8048 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 03:26:49 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 03:26:49 -0000 Received: from Markis1012@aol.com (8029) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vXOSa02293 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 23:24:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Markis1012@aol.com Message-ID: <1849042c.245e7102@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 23:24:50 EDT Subject: Acid Breaks III review To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello fello ravers. For those of you that went to AB3 last night, I hope you had as much fun as I did. I thought this party had all the elements a GOOD party should have. The vibe was amazing. I met tons of new people and saw tons of others I have met at previous parties. It wasn't as crowded as i thought it was going to be. I actually had room to breath as well as dance. And most importanly ...........the jungle was ON HIT. I thought all of the dj's did a fantastic job on the music. Sideburn Slim tore it up at the start of the evening. He let his girlfriend spin for the first time and she did Really well. Lots of good DARK Jungle! Then I hear this guy named Joshua Jacob spin for the first time ever. This kid is DOPE. He plays jungle beat over hip-hop tracks and sometimes over stuff. He spun that 6 Underground (Sneaker Pimps) over a jungle beat and just about lost my mind! This kid definitly gets props. There aren't too many DJ's like this one so if you haven't heard of him you REALLY need to check him out. I don't even think words could express how dope Rinse & Flux's set was! All I can say that about that is SATISFACTION GUARENTEED!!!!!!! They only got an hour each but that was Enuff for me. Any more and i probably would have exploded. No disappointments AT ALL but....................where on Earth was Jamalski?? He was no where to be found. I was standing behind the turntables during Flux's set and someone asked ME if I was Jamalski.UUUUmmmmmm......Sorry dude wrong guy! I don't know if I was that f&cked up or something but I think DJGHOST was spinning jungle. Doesn't he spin breaks or something?? weird huh. At around 5 I got really tired so i did'nt get to hear Hak & Siphon spin (sorry guys)! I hope every one else had a good weekend and stayed SAFE! BIG UPS to the B.A.S.S. KRU and ALL the junglist across the bay area. See you next time around! markis (junglejunkie) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 03:35:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12287 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 03:35:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 12278 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 03:35:13 -0000 Received: from web121.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.129) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 03:35:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503033946.23688.rocketmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Received: from [130.212.64.100] by web121.yahoomail.com; Sun, 02 May 1999 20:39:46 PDT Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 20:39:46 -0700 (PDT) From: lynz Subject: ..what can we do 5.6.99? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey guys... my roomie and I have been homestricken for like the past two weeks and SO we really REALLY want to go out this thursday night and have some fun! do you guys have any suggestions? we want to go dancing somewhere, but can't spend more than $7 (okay, so we're cheapos)... but yah, do you guys recommend any clubs in SF that are 18+ (okay, so we're youngins too...) we really need your help... cuz i looked on the calendar, but shit, i dunno which ones to go to... help us out PULEEZ?!? thank you sooo much! you can email me privately... thanks again! Lynz aka swEEt pea === "I don't want realism. I want magic!"-Blanche DuBois From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 03:39:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13444 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 03:39:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 13436 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 03:39:23 -0000 Received: from fletch.fix.net (telkionish@206.190.71.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 03:39:23 -0000 Received: from localhost (telkionish@localhost) by fletch.fix.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA19766; Sun, 2 May 1999 20:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 20:39:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Adair To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com cc: SFraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: a few words on Hi and the weekend In-Reply-To: <984d03e5.245e426c@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok... Stupid question as I have never promoted for large enough parties to necessitate presales... Why have the actual physical pre-sale ticket?? Why not have the presale locations write down names... Like John Smith (4tickets) or something... It seems that in the age of computers it wouldnt be tooo difficult to compile an alphabatized list of presales and have them pick them up at the door, kinda like the way buying presales through sfrecords.com does... I can see at large parties (like FGE events) this being a problem, but I am assuming these arent the parties suffering from counterfiting as much as the smaller parties, like this VORG party... Sure it is a pain in the ass for the organizer, but so is printing presales, and losing a few hundred to a few thousand dollars on people with fake tickets... just a thought... GregerE > << Even though we had valid pre-sale tickets, > apparently there were fake tickets going around; which we knew about > from the message two hours before we left our house that evening. We > assumed that action would be taken and the people with non-valid tickets > would not be allowed in and no tickets would be sold at the door; it was > supposedly only pre-sale!!! However, after waiting in line they told us > they would be refunding money, because they couldnt let us in. >> > > First off.. >Hopefully karma will be getting back to these people who > copied the tickets very soon. I can't believe someone would be so desperate > to go to a party, that they would dick everyone over like this. Too bad > those of you that didn't get in didn't make it out to Lunar Enlightenment > where you could have partied for free =) > but I think it is important to take the time to make presale tickets that > can't be duplicated, or at least can be told apart from ones that have been > duplicated. I know it gets expensive to laminate tickets or print out ones > with stamps on them or whatever, but the trouble it saves is worth it. Think > how many people had to be paid bacK?? oh well.. that's my little word on that. > > Got to see my boi Bryan Lee last night! YEAH! LA style trance up in an > empty T-room. I'm ready to hibernate until summer. then it's time for the > CAMPOUTs if yanno what I mean. > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 03:40:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14372 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 03:40:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 14356 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 03:40:51 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 03:40:51 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA23879; Sun, 2 May 1999 20:40:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990502204459.007f28f0@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 20:44:59 -0700 To: lynz From: Carly Bourne Subject: Re: ..what can we do 5.6.99? Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <19990503033946.23688.rocketmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Club Faith... 18+ in SF... $7... house room with cool blacklights and great dancers... hip-hop room with booty-shaken music... guest djs have included Tracer (he played a great trance set)... its a gay club but the crowd is very mixed (gay and straight)... this isn't a bsp ... I just happen to love this place love, Carly At 08:39 PM 5/2/99 -0700, you wrote: >hey guys... my roomie and I have been homestricken for >like the past two weeks and SO we really REALLY want >to go out this thursday night and have some fun! do >you guys have any suggestions? we want to go dancing >somewhere, but can't spend more than $7 (okay, so >we're cheapos)... but yah, do you guys recommend any >clubs in SF that are 18+ (okay, so we're youngins >too...) we really need your help... cuz i looked on >the calendar, but shit, i dunno which ones to go to... >help us out PULEEZ?!? thank you sooo much! you can >email me privately... thanks again! > >Lynz >aka swEEt pea >=== > >"I don't want realism. I want magic!"-Blanche DuBois > > > *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 04:36:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2023 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 04:36:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 2013 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 04:36:14 -0000 Received: from seidc.sei.com (198.202.174.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 04:36:14 -0000 Received: from water.sei.com (water.sei.com [198.202.174.76]) by seidc.sei.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA14616; Sun, 2 May 1999 21:35:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Martin Randall Received: (from kk@localhost) by water.sei.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA02238; Sun, 2 May 1999 21:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905030435.VAA02238@water.sei.com> Subject: Re: dj kEMISTRY To: Kitana3737@aol.com Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 21:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Cc: cindy@lodge.com, maxik@slip.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: from "Kitana3737@aol.com" at May 2, 99 10:31:08 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk a catseye is one of those reflector thingies they put along the roadways along the center divider lines, etc, kind of sunk into the road surface - they look like cats eyes at night reflecting the light from your headlights. what a freak accident to have one of those things come loose and (even more unlikely) hit someone in the head. such a tragedy. - martin > > thanks for the info..... :) now maybe i`m reeaally dense but what`s a > catseye?? :T sounds like such a freak accident..... unfortunate to happen to > anyone, but especially her....... i`m really hitting myself for not seeing > kemistry&storm when i could have. but i guess life is just like that huh? > > muchlove, > ~*MiCheLLe*~ > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 05:45:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23287 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 05:45:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 23278 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 05:45:06 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 05:45:06 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com (14460) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vGVFa16059; Mon, 3 May 1999 01:44:36 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 01:44:36 EDT Subject: Re: Acid Breaks III review To: Markis1012@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well, i only have a few things to say, josh's music is all one record... they are hip hop remixes and are one song, he doesnt spin one hip hop record over a dnb beat.yes ghost spun jungle and it was tight. -ralph From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 06:10:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1248 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 06:10:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 1240 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 06:10:26 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 06:10:26 -0000 Received: from BBoiBreks@aol.com (14370) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLNTa10651 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 02:09:44 -0400 (EDT) From: BBoiBreks@aol.com Message-ID: <64ee7b90.245e97a8@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 02:09:44 EDT Subject: Re: acid breaks III review To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Wait, is Acidbreaks 3 was supposed to be all breaks why were Ghost and Frank Nitty there?I thought that they spun trance and happy hardcore. "Is Frank Nitty a donut or is Frank Donut a Nittty? the stumped out poser bboibreks From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 07:59:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27786 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 07:59:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 27774 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 07:59:51 -0000 Received: from web220.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.120) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 07:59:50 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503075955.5776.rocketmail@web220.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.170.3.133] by web220.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 03 May 1999 00:59:55 PDT Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 00:59:55 -0700 (PDT) From: The Red Stickman Subject: Re: My Cracked Out Weekend To: rachelle Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It was called: Sporty and Friends present: "Have a Nice Rave". And that I did! :) michael o)-< --- rachelle wrote: > Hey just curious, which party did you go to in LA? > Christopher Lawrence > is the shit; he knows how to keep a crowd in check, > and with great > vibe...anyway, just curious which party it was. have > a good day. > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 08:04:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29089 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 08:04:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 29081 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 08:04:35 -0000 Received: from web219.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.119) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 08:04:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503080553.2873.rocketmail@web219.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.170.3.133] by web219.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 03 May 1999 01:05:53 PDT Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 01:05:53 -0700 (PDT) From: The Red Stickman Subject: !!!sunshine daydream!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Could it have been any more perfect? (no.) =) love, michael o)-< From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 08:10:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 827 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 08:10:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 817 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 08:10:29 -0000 Received: from smtp.well.com (206.80.6.147) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 08:10:29 -0000 Received: from astrojax ([206.79.166.3] (may be forged)) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with SMTP id BAA18262; Mon, 3 May 1999 01:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990503011115.008e0b00@mail.well.com> X-Sender: mod79@mail.well.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 01:11:15 -0700 To: The Red Stickman From: deepbeep Subject: Re: !!!sunshine daydream!!! Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <19990503080553.2873.rocketmail@web219.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk go to sleep, ya krazy kid!!! (he's right tho... Sunshine Daydream was perfect!) :::hugs::: d. At 01:05 AM 5/3/99 -0700, The Red Stickman wrote: > >Could it have been any more perfect? > >(no.) > >=) > >love, >michael >o)-< > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 08:26:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4963 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 08:26:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 4937 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 08:26:38 -0000 Received: from web208.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.108) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 08:26:38 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503082631.25577.rocketmail@web208.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.19.55.2] by web208.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 03 May 1999 01:26:31 PDT Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 01:26:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Garrett James Subject: I NEED RIGHTEOUS TECHNO To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You know, some sunday evenings sittin at work i realize that I really want to be out in a field with 10,000 other crazy clad Norcal peeps getting a cranium replacement to the illustrious music of Jon Williams. I like it, unlike the dentist, when the aliens need to put in new implants they blast Jon Williams at ultra loud volumes rather than soft musak or something. When is then next full on house/techno/militant jungle outdoor rage fest with Jon Williams, AndyW and Chris Jackson headlining because i need some F*Ckking techno. none of that clubby have a drink techno either. A little jacking house a la Stacey Pullen would complement the post surgery well too :) he hehheh h0 Ho h0h0 h0h0 damn I cant wait till y2k. -Garr From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 11:14:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21732 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 11:14:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 21723 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 11:14:54 -0000 Received: from law-f27.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.90) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 11:14:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 72078 invoked by uid 0); 3 May 1999 11:14:49 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503111449.72077.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.173.232.112 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 03 May 1999 04:14:48 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.173.232.112] From: "ro ro" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: acidic backbreakers (review?) Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 11:14:48 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I got to Home Base about 9 or 10, damn it was hella cold that night! I met a few folks in line and ended up kickin it with them in the jungle room. Since it was early, my lil crew and I went around checkin out the different rooms. The breakin room was tight with the linoleum and the dual action video screens. The breakers were cool, some of them looked old school, like from my childhood years (except I saw some crazy shit that night!). I liked the fresh smellin graffiti in the b-boy lounge, and the supersized living room was cool. ...But it was all about the jungle room! (isn't it always?) I just met a bunch of peeps in the beginning, saying wuz up to old friends and bobbin my head to the "...bass drum, jungle music...", damn I love it when they mix in shit from back in the dayz. Oh well, I got my lil groove on in front of the speakers and dj booth. (More like spurts of retarded looking, feet trippin, jumpin, shufflin, skippin, head-bobbin, hands all over the place tryin to look like a seizure.) When I got tired, I chilled at the speakers or sat in front of them. (I'm the asian-militia-rubberbands-braids-ponytails) This one dude chillin next to me at the speakers had a kool aid smile for hella dayz. Anyways, I love watchin all ya'll dance when my legs are through. This one chic was dancin forever in front of us speaker freaks. She wore adidas pants and a bucket hat at first, then she put on her hooded jacket and cap. Oh well, whoever you are thanks for catching my keys when they fell out of my pocket. I was stuck sittin in front of the speakers pretty much until we cut out (except for my unusual need to take a piss every damn half hour) Rommel danglingfury@hotmail.com AOLIM: DaSaucey1 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 11:52:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27414 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 11:52:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 27403 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 11:52:49 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 11:52:49 -0000 Received: from Kandehata@aol.com (3933) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vQPFa04813 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 07:51:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Kandehata@aol.com Message-ID: <3adda764.245ee7c4@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 07:51:32 EDT Subject: PAGING:JASONakaPHOENIX To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk if anyone on here knows how to get ahold of him or if he is subbed to the list....plez email me privately .....SORRY FOR THE SPAM!!!! A From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 13:26:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19884 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 13:26:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 19874 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 13:26:49 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 13:26:49 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.135] (kenya-135.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.135]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA08874; Mon, 3 May 1999 06:26:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 05:55:59 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Mon) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello...today's quote is... "Never spend your money before you have it." ---Thomas Jefferson ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 14:27:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4251 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 14:27:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 4229 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 14:27:31 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.12) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 14:27:31 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA14690 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 09:27:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca4-54.ix.netcom.com(205.186.212.182) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma014641; Mon May 3 09:26:40 1999 Message-ID: <372B9A9B.42FE@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 16:21:49 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: [Fwd: Re: -- sat night's alright]--AllOnE] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk So I'm replying to this soo late. > To add to that last part, I don't know WHO the hell that seven year old is I don't know if it's the same kid or not, but it was at either Harmony or the Gathering where this little kid was dancing in a circle. He was basically just jumping around everywhere with some glowsticks in his hands and everyone was cheering him on, he was probablly around 7 or 8. I din't see him smoking buds or anything, bud I'd like to speak to whoever is bringing this poor kid to parties. His hearing will probablly be gone by the time he's 20 or before. His boody is still far from developed. Not only that but he's getting mass 2nd hand smoke, which I get as well, but not at such a young age...**urg**, what are people thinking, --Can they not find a babysitter-- > that I've seen at parties smoking pot and prolly on mad other drugs, but > that is TOTALLY fucked up and if he is with a sibling or something their > bitchasses need to be beaten!! And, for anyone who does not know what I'm > talking about, I am not exaggurating: SEVEN YEARS OLD. I know how to judge > ages, my little sister is seven. > > k, bye > > Rafie > > BigM009@aol.com wrote... > >In a message dated 4/29/1999 12:19:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > >ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu writes: > > > ><< Bwaahha hahaha hah heh heh! That's funny...hm, that's a good idea. How > > great would it be if everyone got to 2nd&Jackson/HomeBass/whathaveyou and > > there was a biiig poster up with rainbows and butterflies that says, "No > > whistles, no lotion, no sex, and especially no filthy adolescent e-tards" > > and everyone was crying in front of it. I love it. >> > > > > > >That would mean you couldnt go Rafie. And that would be a sad sad thing. > >Peace, M > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 14:27:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4531 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 14:27:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 4230 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 14:27:31 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.12) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 14:27:31 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA14676 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 09:27:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca4-54.ix.netcom.com(205.186.212.182) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma014635; Mon May 3 09:26:30 1999 Message-ID: <372B95B6.2916@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 16:00:55 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: [Fwd: honey] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, Honey had alot of positivity going on, but I was somewhat bored. The free water was definatly cool, the outside area--For the Jungle--, which was sick!, Hak, your set was sweet and so was the guy that was up right b4 you?(who was that). I was outside a good portion of the night, because the music in the gym was kinda good/bad/or strange. There really wasn't a vibe, and ...I know I know....you have to make the Vibe for yourself or some shit, but there wasn't one. Everyone was really nice, but something about that party was phuken odd. I don't know what it was. Atleast people were dancing and being kind enough to lay down on the sides of the gym and not flat right in the center where everyone dances. After the entire argument of circle dancers, there were a couple of times that circles came about and they were pretty dope. The music flow was strange, it would be trance-break beats-some odd 106.1 type stuff- then kinda progressive trancey stuff( i don't really know how to categorize it). Since it was in the gym, there were bleachers, and that was really cool =). The party going on in Monteray and all, I think alot of folks didn't want to make the dive, but it only took about an hour and 15 minutes to get there and about 45 minutes to get back. So it wasn't too bad. The projections on the two screens were awesome, I thiknk they should of put them on the two side walls or more to the center though(for those of you that were there). And I think there was free fruit, but I didn't have any so I'm not sure. And that was it Peace Elizabeth PS: See everyone at Urban Development and 4:20 Kids tonight. > > one of the best parties i've ever been to!   the location, sound, > lighting, and decorations were fantastic... affordable tickets, free > fruit and water. i had a great time.  this was my first time hearing > amber spin--your set was amazing girl! i caught a little bit of the > jungle going on outside and have to say djs hak and siphon got it > going on!  i met lots of cool peeps and my girlfriend anne marie (it > was her first party) had a blast too.  thanks to everyone who was > involved with making honey such a positive experience, hope to see > more parties come out of this crew. >   > much love > =)sooz  From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 14:37:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10584 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 14:37:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 10568 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 14:37:37 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.12) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 14:37:37 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA15988 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 09:36:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca4-54.ix.netcom.com(205.186.212.182) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma015933; Mon May 3 09:36:04 1999 Message-ID: <372DC3AD.1AED@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 07:41:35 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: 420:KIDZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk For all of you that hate 2nd N Jackson, you would of loved Vibe Creation. It wasn't even close to packed at all, and at one point in the night--I probablly could of counted all of the people in the house room. Justin Long is pretty damn good and Traxx is awesome!! WOW!!...(to Jeremy: Call me later about the weekly you mentioned). The house room was so damn sweet. I don't understand why, but there were probablly more kids in the trance room the entire night...I just don't get why you'd go to a party thats going out of it's why to bring in steller House music, but then you go into the weekly trance room...hmmmm, I was happy though, it gave us house heads more room to dance and more room to breathe. The people were cool, it was pretty damn hard to promote for Quest though, I think there were about 5 or 6 of us there at the same time(I don't think I've ever seen so many damn people trying to flyer for the same party). That was it, didn't get to make it out to Beat Down, I was way to tired, So I hope everyone had a good weekend, Peace Elizabeth From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 15:18:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29865 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 15:18:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 29856 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 15:18:15 -0000 Received: from law2-f171.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.171) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 15:18:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 43221 invoked by uid 0); 3 May 1999 15:18:48 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503151848.43220.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.103.171 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 03 May 1999 08:18:48 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.103.171] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: etraver@ix.netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: LITTLE KIDS AT PARTIES, was Re: [Fwd: Re: -- sat night's alright]--AllOnE] Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 08:18:48 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >it was at either Harmony >or the Gathering where this little kid was dancing in a circle. He was >basically just jumping around everywhere with some glowsticks in his >hands and everyone was cheering him on, he was probablly around 7 or 8. i've seen this kid too. he was also at a vorg party back in february. he was dancing with his little glowsticks and everyone was standing around him, saying how cute he was. this is NOT cute! this is so unhealthy for this kid. i heard for someone (i'm not sure if this is true or not), but the person bringing him to the parties is his mother. sure i could see her reasons for bringing him, possibly to expand his horizons and meet new people and have different experiences. but sheeeyat, this kid's too young for all that. take him when he's older! we've got enough little kids running around that it already looks like preschool. we don't need to be bringing in actual children to reinforce that. i don't even think that 12, 13, 14 year olds should be going out to raves either. the scene should not be introduced to them at such an early age. i know many people in their 20's that can't even deal with all the bullshit that comes along with the rave scene. i'm just sick of seeing these kids fuck their life up by going to raves, taking hella E, and screwing up their bodies. this is unhealthy for a growing teenage body. it's already unhealthy for an adult body, but it's worse for kids. all the drugs and the lack of sleep WILL take it's toll. the teenage years are when one's body needs as much sleep as it can get. the lack of sleep as a teenager totally affects you later, trust me on this one. another thing is, is that kids also don't know how to handle their drugs. this is something that goes along with experience and age. at the harmony party this past weekend, there was this girl, maybe about 13 or so, and we think that she was on E for her first time. i don't know, but she was HELLA faded. she was dancing on any guy that would look her way (and any guy that wasn't looking her way). she couldn't walk straight, or see straight, or even hold her own head up. and she was alone. i tried to talk to her, and she said that she came with two other girls, but where were they? they should have been there to help take care of her. that's what friends are for, right??!?! to go along with everything else, when she talked (or tried to) she could not make out coherent sentances and sounded like she was speaking another language. i tried to keep an eye on her for some of the night, to make sure that she was ok, but it was hard considering she was running around too much. but this was not my job to babysit her. this is where the friends need to come in and play their part. if it was her first time on E, they should have been right there experiencing it with her. of course she's not going to know how to handle it; i definetly didn't know how to deal with my first E. but i had my friends there with me, for the first few times, helping me figure out how to handle myself on E, so that i didn't act like some little stupid E-tard. now i know all of this sounds synical, but i'm just really concerned about these kids and their health. these are people that are going to be running the world soon enough and we need to watch out for them. please kids, learn how to take your drugs. be careful. be kind to your body, because you're going to need it; it's the only thing you've got in this world. love lia From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 15:42:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12810 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 15:42:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 12799 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 15:42:56 -0000 Received: from web802.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.62) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 15:42:56 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503154227.24385.rocketmail@web802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web802.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 03 May 1999 08:42:27 PDT Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 08:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: [Fwd: honey] To: Elizabeth Traver , SFRaves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk oh yeah, i forgot to mention one of my favorite parts of the night--the visuals!!!! They were amazing, thanks viberation for providing such lovely eye candy, I look forward to seeing more... Jessica --- Elizabeth Traver wrote: > Well, Honey had alot of positivity going on, but I > was somewhat > bored. > > The free water was definatly cool, the outside > area--For the Jungle--, > which was sick!, Hak, your set was sweet and so was > the guy that was up > right b4 you?(who was that). I was outside a good > portion of the night, > because the music in the gym was kinda good/bad/or > strange. > There really wasn't a vibe, and ...I know I > know....you have to make the > Vibe for yourself or some shit, but there wasn't > one. > > Everyone was really nice, but something about that > party was phuken > odd. I don't know what it was. Atleast people were > dancing and being > kind enough to lay down on the sides of the gym and > not flat right in > the center where everyone dances. After the entire > argument of circle > dancers, there were a couple of times that circles > came about and they > were pretty dope. The music flow was strange, it > would be trance-break > beats-some odd 106.1 type stuff- then kinda > progressive trancey stuff( i > don't really know how to categorize it). Since it > was in the gym, there > were bleachers, and that was really cool =). > > The party going on in Monteray and all, I think > alot of folks didn't > want to make the dive, but it only took about an > hour and 15 minutes to > get there and about 45 minutes to get back. So it > wasn't too bad. > > The projections on the two screens were awesome, I > thiknk they should > of put them on the two side walls or more to the > center though(for those > of you that were there). And I think there was free > fruit, but I didn't > have any so I'm not sure. > > And that was it > > Peace > Elizabeth > > PS: See everyone at Urban Development and 4:20 Kids > tonight. > > > > one of the best parties i've ever been to!   the > location, sound, > > lighting, and decorations were fantastic... > affordable tickets, free > > fruit and water. i had a great time.  this was my > first time hearing > > amber spin--your set was amazing girl! i caught a > little bit of the > > jungle going on outside and have to say djs > hak and siphon got it > > going on!  i met lots of cool peeps and my > girlfriend anne marie (it > > was her first party) had a blast too.  thanks to > everyone who was > > involved with making honey such a positive > experience, hope to see > > more parties come out of this crew. > >   > > much love > > =)sooz  > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 15:48:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17018 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 15:48:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 17010 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 15:48:23 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 15:48:23 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-206.dsp.com [204.118.76.206]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA01607; Mon, 3 May 1999 08:45:56 -0700 Message-Id: <199905031545.IAA01607@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 08:45:45 -0700 To: "LuSh SnOOpiE" , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: LITTLE KIDS AT PARTIES In-Reply-To: <19990503151848.43220.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Amen, Sister. Very well said. There are some things, we all know, that you only learn thru direct experience. How to handle hallucinogens is *not* necessarily one of them. And when one is so super young as 7 or even 13, you should not be called upon to learn those lessons. There are alot of other lessons that are critical at that point. Kids need the shelter to experience and learn and play on their own terms, not this sort of adventure - and certainly they don't need to see 'adults' being not-so-adult when they're 7. I remember going to parties with my mom in the 70s, when I was a little kid, and I was disappointed and disgusted with the adults I was hanging out with. I saw them as losers, lost respect for them. This undoubtedly informed my attitude, for the rest of my life. Duh! Have a good week. I get to try out my Kerapi umbrella today! (It has little frog-eyes and everything) Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 16:30:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7545 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 16:30:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 7522 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 16:30:01 -0000 Received: from web124.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 16:30:01 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503163038.19379.rocketmail@web124.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web124.yahoomail.com; Mon, 03 May 1999 09:30:38 PDT Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 09:30:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: NRR: (FWD) Funny Lables (HUMOR) To: SF Ravers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In case you needed further proof that the human race is doomed through stupidity, here are some actual label instructions> on consumer goods: On Sears hairdryer: Do not use while sleeping. (Geesh, that's the only time I have to work on my hair!) On a bag of Fritos: You could be a winner! No purchase necessary. Details inside. (The shoplifter special!) On a bar of Dial soap: Directions: Use like regular soap. (and that would be how?) On some Swann frozen dinners: Serving suggestion: Defrost. (But it's *just* a suggestion!) On Tesco's Tiramisu dessert: Do not turn upside down. (printed on bottom of the box) (Too late! You lose!) (I love it: food to piss you off.) On Marks & Spencer Bread Pudding: Product will be hot after heating. (Are you sure??? Let's experiment.) duh On packaging for a Rowenta iron: Do not iron clothes on body. (But wouldn't that save more time?) (Whose body?) On Boot's Children's cough medicine: Do not drive car or operate machinery. (We could do a lot to reduce the rate of construction accidents if we just kept those 5 year olds off those fork lifts.) On Nytol sleep aid: Warning: may cause drowsiness. (One would hope!) On a Korean kitchen knife: Warning keep out of children. (Or pets! What's for dinner?) On a string of Chinese-made Christmas lights: For indoor or outdoor use only. (As opposed to use in outer space.) (Or underground?) On a Japanese food processor: Not to be used for the other use. (Now I'm curious.) On Sainsbury's peanuts: Warning: contains nuts. (Not to mention the nut who wrote the warning ) On an American Airlines packet of nuts: Instructions: open packet, eat nuts. (DDDUUUHHH) On a Swedish chainsaw: Do not attempt to stop chain with your hands or genitals. (What is this, a home castration kit?) On a childs superman costume: Wearing of this garment does not enable you to fly. (That's right, destroy a universal childhood fantasy-Sorry Peter Pan) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 16:44:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14393 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 16:44:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 14368 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 16:44:26 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 16:44:26 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA15526 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:43:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mon-ca8-22.ix.netcom.com(206.216.188.86) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma015513; Mon May 3 11:43:34 1999 Message-ID: <372D67A3.697E@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 09:08:51 +0000 From: Jennifer and Daniel Herron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: (FWD) Funny Lables (HUMOR) References: <19990503163038.19379.rocketmail@web124.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Patrick Seaton wrote: > > On Marks & Spencer Bread Pudding: > Product will be hot after heating. > (Are you sure??? Let's experiment.) duh > This is one of the wierdest stores I've ever come across. Very strange with the produce right next to the expensive clothing...I got an awesome old English grandpa hat there though. :) > On Boot's Children's cough medicine: > Do not drive car or operate machinery. > (We could do a lot to reduce the rate of construction accidents if we > just kept those 5 year olds off those fork lifts.) > On the other hand this is a great English store. Gotta love any place that is like Longs! Jennifer aka Chrysallys From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 16:52:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17544 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 16:52:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 17503 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 16:52:52 -0000 Received: from web808.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 16:52:52 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503165633.2347.rocketmail@web808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.99] by web808.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 03 May 1999 09:56:33 PDT Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 09:56:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: NRR: (FWD) Funny Lables (HUMOR) To: Jennifer and Daniel Herron , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Gotta love any placethat is like Longs! I have too much fun in longs, my friends used to make fun of me all the time cuz i wanted to go play in longs after a bowl, we'd just be sitting there, like duhhh...what should we do now? My suggestion would always be Lets go play in Longs! They have neato stuff in there, and a huge variety of candy, and its cheap. I love the toys, and stickers, and everything, Im a longs fan, thats for sure. Too bad everyone who works there thinks im a freak, oh well... People who deny their craziness, at some point in time will go insane. --Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 16:59:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20794 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 16:59:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 20782 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 16:59:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 16:59:09 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 83; Mon, 3 May 1999 09:56:42 -0700 Message-ID: <372DD928.3A545207@hrg.com> Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 10:13:12 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: deepbeep CC: The Red Stickman , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: !!!sunshine daydream!!! References: <3.0.5.32.19990503011115.008e0b00@mail.well.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ACK!!! I wanted to go but was way to sick : ( john r deepbeep wrote: > go to sleep, ya krazy kid!!! > > (he's right tho... Sunshine Daydream was perfect!) > > :::hugs::: > d. > > At 01:05 AM 5/3/99 -0700, The Red Stickman wrote: > > > >Could it have been any more perfect? > > > >(no.) > > > >=) > > > >love, > >michael > >o)-< > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 17:04:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23406 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 17:04:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 23397 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 17:04:49 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 17:04:49 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503165818.9431.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.170.33.44] by attach1; Mon, 03 May 1999 09:58:18 PDT Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 09:58:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Joaqman Subject: balance, honey, sunshine daydream & more.... To: SFRaves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk dear friends, balance prod. does it again with a free outdoor dreamworld. i had to leave early but what i saw/heard/felt i loved no wonder i'm hooked on their events. boy am i glad that i booked John rodriguez for my upcoming party. great full moon. honey was a REAL rave. although i did not arrive till 3:33am, the vibe was alive. andyW - ass kikin' in techno!!!! consumate professional. i got to finally see one of my good friends, ryan christopher. if you haven't seen this guy yet, be prepared for bone shakin' hard house. can we say rough soul? excellent job buddy. i had fun playing for bobby medow and the rest of the colorblind collective. bobby said am i ready for the next one? and i said cool let's move the speakers now. i am serious, anytime, anywhere for these guys. the shit rock'd! it was good to see the friends i have made over the past year: dj amber nixon, shane, i think i saw fiona, robinT, cesar, john dalton, terry with the viberation visuals that i have grown to love. i'm not sure i ever want to see anyone else's visuals, i'm perfektly satisfied. and many many more. saturday i played & parited with the kung felt @ situation 1 in berkeley & later with my school friends w/ the 3 juan's. a prvt. affair in sf. i saw a great elektro diva dj named ramses from the mission. sunday after i collected my thoughts and promoted/shopped @ tweekin', bpm & soundworks, i headed to 715 harrison ****** WARNING ***** 715 HARRISON IS SERIOUS ABOUT THEIR ANTI-DRUG POLICIES. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO BRING ANY CONTROLLED OR PERSCRIPTIVE SUBSTANCES INSIDE. I LEARNED THE HARD WAY. that said, i would also like to say that i did not suffer any ill consequences as a result of my poor judgement and i was treated with respect. "besides that unfortunate incident, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the show?" I Loved Sunshine Daydream!!!! What a wonderful ambiance what stellar drum & bass a la Miss E. and others. although i only got to see Moses and Mikey the Riddler, i was fed soulfully and i got to see tons of undaground headz that i love. please go to these events and housepitality and uniting souls. Ramiro and co. always deliver. and to top it all off, i got booked to play on the same bill as Justin Hale!!!! i am super-psyched. love, Joaqman ---"Susan L. Gwartney" wrote: > > one of the best parties i've ever been to! the location, sound, lighting, and decorations were fantastic... affordable tickets, free fruit and water. i had a great time. this was my first time hearing amber spin--your set was amazing girl! i caught a little bit of the jungle going on outside and have to say djs hak and siphon got it going on! i met lots of cool peeps and my girlfriend anne marie (it was her first party) had a blast too. thanks to everyone who was involved with making honey such a positive experience, hope to see more parties come out of this crew. > > much love > =)sooz >
one of the best parties i've ever been to!   the location, sound, lighting, and decorations were fantastic... affordable tickets, free fruit and water. i had a great time.  this was my first time hearing amber spin--your set was amazing girl! i caught a little bit of the jungle going on outside and have to say djs hak and siphon got it going on!  i met lots of cool peeps and my girlfriend anne marie (it was her first party) had a blast too.  thanks to everyone who was involved with making honey such a positive experience, hope to see more parties come out of this crew.
 
much love
=)sooz 
From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 17:18:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1840 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 17:18:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 1821 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 17:18:41 -0000 Received: from web206.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.106) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 17:18:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503171851.25120.rocketmail@web206.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.241.28.1] by web206.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 03 May 1999 10:18:51 PDT Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:18:51 -0700 (PDT) From: C H E P S T E R Reply-To: chep_plur@yahoo.com Subject: To Kids in RENO To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I had a wonderful time in Reno this weekend. Thanks for all the fun and laughter. I almost felt as if I was home again in Iowa. You don't really appreciate the smaller scenes and how much PLUR goes around until you move. I do miss it a lot and HELL YA I'm going back to Reno, somebody please let me know when there is Rave there. Brandon, your the coolest man and I am so I glad I bumped into, we connect man. Tara, your the shit girl, keep on raving and I like your moves. To Tina, your my sweety and always well, but I want you to take care of yourself and go get checked out. I don't want to have to go thru another episode like that, it was scary and I know your stress out, but go get checked out. We all care for you. Peace and lots of PLUR to RENO Chep === In case I don't see you...... good afternoon.... good evening.... good night.... chep_plur@yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 17:21:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3359 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 17:21:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 3343 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 17:21:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aspen.sc-intl.com) (207.218.171.40) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 17:21:05 -0000 Received: by ASPEN with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <2086P0A1>; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:23:33 -0700 Message-ID: <756B30A53DCBD111BABC00A0C981D46372AC6C@ASPEN> From: "Ball, Tera" To: "'SFRaves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:23:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk All I have to say is Honey was a weak party! I felt like I was at a high school dance. There was one room and an out door area. The music was good but everything else was dumb. What's with these hippie raves? All the party was missing was the stench of sage burning! The visuals were rad! The vibe was no where to be found. I got bored around 2:30. Next time I hope they find a better loc. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 17:39:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12120 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 17:39:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 12073 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 17:39:32 -0000 Received: from web801.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.61) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 17:39:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503174404.5348.rocketmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web801.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 03 May 1999 10:44:04 PDT Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:44:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: To: "Ball, Tera" , "'SFRaves@hyperreal.org'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk people who get bored are boring, havent you learned that yet? I dont know what you are talking about "hippie" raves??? Just curious. like i said before i had fun, Jessica --- "Ball, Tera" wrote: > All I have to say is Honey was a weak party! I felt > like I was at a > high school dance. There was one room and an out > door area. The music > was good but everything else was dumb. What's with > these hippie raves? > All the party was missing was the stench of sage > burning! The visuals > were rad! The vibe was no where to be found. I got > bored around 2:30. > Next time I hope they find a better loc. > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 17:47:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16630 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 17:46:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 16622 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 17:46:58 -0000 Received: from f163.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.49) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 17:46:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 82175 invoked by uid 0); 3 May 1999 17:54:34 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503175434.82174.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 03 May 1999 10:54:34 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: tball@aspenmg.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 10:54:34 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi Tera, Sorry that you did not have a good time at honey I know some of these kids and I know they put a lot of heart and soul into there event and it sounds like it was a good ol undgerground party? What were you expecting? maybe people circle dancing and multiple rooms sounds like you prefer massives over small UG parties maybe you should have attended a massive instead. Just an oberservation better luck next time. See ya, Macadio >From: "Ball, Tera" >To: "'SFRaves@hyperreal.org'" >Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:23:32 -0700 > >All I have to say is Honey was a weak party! I felt like I was at a >high school dance. There was one room and an out door area. The music >was good but everything else was dumb. What's with these hippie raves? >All the party was missing was the stench of sage burning! The visuals >were rad! The vibe was no where to be found. I got bored around 2:30. >Next time I hope they find a better loc. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 17:50:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18923 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 17:50:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 18910 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 17:50:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO l3mail1.netzero.net) (209.0.233.35) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 17:50:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 22058 invoked by uid 0); 3 May 1999 17:49:58 -0000 Received: from dialup-209.245.64.105.losangeles1.level3.net (HELO katskratcher) (209.245.64.105) by 209.0.233.35 with SMTP; 3 May 1999 17:49:58 -0000 Message-ID: <00f201be958f$15335460$6940f5d1@katskratcher> From: ",,^. .^,," To: "Jess ica" , "Ball, Tera" , Subject: Re: Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:02:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk boredom is a lack of creativity :o) |people who get bored are boring, havent you learned that yet? I dont |know what you are talking about "hippie" raves??? Just curious. like |i said before | |i had fun, |Jessica | |--- "Ball, Tera" wrote: |> All I have to say is Honey was a weak party! I felt |> like I was at a |> high school dance. There was one room and an out |> door area. The music |> was good but everything else was dumb. What's with |> these hippie raves? |> All the party was missing was the stench of sage |> burning! The visuals |> were rad! The vibe was no where to be found. I got |> bored around 2:30. |> Next time I hope they find a better loc. |> | | | NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 17:52:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20910 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 17:52:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 20901 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 17:52:22 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 17:52:22 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-133.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.133]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA17495; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990503162617.006a492c@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 11:26:17 -0500 To: Jess ica From: Nuku Subject: Re: Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk gawdamn tree huggin hippies! i hate hippies because like when your siting in a park and eating food they like to crawl up your leg and start biting you in the ass! Nuku At 10:44 AM 5/3/99 -0700, you wrote: >people who get bored are boring, havent you learned that yet? I dont >know what you are talking about "hippie" raves??? Just curious. like >i said before > >i had fun, >Jessica > >--- "Ball, Tera" wrote: >> All I have to say is Honey was a weak party! I felt >> like I was at a >> high school dance. There was one room and an out >> door area. The music >> was good but everything else was dumb. What's with >> these hippie raves? >> All the party was missing was the stench of sage >> burning! The visuals >> were rad! The vibe was no where to be found. I got >> bored around 2:30. >> Next time I hope they find a better loc. >> > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 17:52:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21559 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 17:52:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 21453 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 17:52:35 -0000 Received: from heinlein.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 17:52:35 -0000 Received: from godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.46]) by heinlein.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) with ESMTP id NAA08606; Mon, 3 May 1999 13:47:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id NAA17621; Mon, 3 May 1999 13:47:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 13:47:55 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: 4:20 kidz!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk so i actually ended up at a party this weekend (i've been real lazy about going out recently) and boy, can i say i had so much fun! vibe creation has to be one of the best parties i've been to at 2nd and jackson, mostly because it was not crowded, was the perfect temperature, and the music was amazing! if you came into the party before 12 you probably saw my bf and i taking tickets (don't ask how i ended up there, i don't know) but luckily i got into the party to dance in time for the end of hk marty's set (fun as usual) and i can't remember the next dj's to go on (tyrone? anton?) but it was definitly some grooving, dancable house, which is why i came to this party. i stayed for a bit of justin long's set and drove home to drop nathan off so he could sleep for work, but i came back :) i got to hear most of justin long's set, which i had been anxously awaiting. i have a tape of his which is amazing and he lived up to my expectations. it was a little mellow from what i remember, but i loved it. the highlight though was TRAXX. he started out with the "this is our house, in our our house there is nothing BUT house" record, and just kept going and going and going. i was really surprised by what he mixed. he put in "master and servant" by depeche mode, another one by bjork, and a few other rock record remixes. his style was amazing! and i really liked how he could slow the music down a bit and raise it back up and still keep the crowd with him the whole time. i thank 4:20 kidz for bringing out two wonderful chicago dj's. whose gonna do it again? and whose gonna bring halo next time too? since 2nd & jackson wasn't that crowded i really hope 4:20 kidz were able to bring in enough kidz to break even. it was a great party, nice decorations, i loved the lazors in the main room, and the little chill area with couches, a tent and all. the trance room was nice, although i didn't spend much time in there (i'm more partial to house). congrats on a great party! and i hope for all that went, you enjoyed it as much as i did! see you all next time i get off my butt and stay up all night :) much love, amber --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 17:56:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22957 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 17:56:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 22943 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 17:56:29 -0000 Received: from web806.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 17:56:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503175423.24649.rocketmail@web806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web806.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 03 May 1999 10:54:23 PDT Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:54:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: RE: To: "Ball, Tera" Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk WoW! I kinda liked the fact that I wasnt stuck in one room all night, i kinda liked the fact that there was a drum and bass fest outside, and i could bebop from in to out and all of that. too bad the men in blue stopped the outside, but that happened waaay into the night, and i got to here lovely andy spin inside when the music outside ended,so i had no problem. Thats funny that you didnt have fun, and you considered it an e party. I wasnt on e, and I had fun. Damn those hippies with their drums, live drumming? oh my, what a horrible thing...:)and the free fruit and water...uhhh yuck Have a nice day, Jessica --- "Ball, Tera" wrote: > I am not boring! How can you have fun when you are > stuck in one room > all night? It gets old after a while! It wasn't a > rave it was an E > party. You know what I mean about hippie raves. > When all the hippies > come with their drums and sage. It makes for a > strange night with an > eerie vibe. I had fun for a while but I couldn't > get over the shitty > location. > Tera > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jess ica [mailto:thatpisces@yahoo.com] > Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 10:44 AM > To: Ball, Tera; 'SFRaves@hyperreal.org' > Subject: Re: > > people who get bored are boring, havent you > learned that > yet? I dont > know what you are talking about "hippie" raves??? > Just > curious. like > i said before > > i had fun, > Jessica > > --- "Ball, Tera" wrote: > > All I have to say is Honey was a weak party! I > felt > > like I was at a > > high school dance. There was one room and an > out > > door area. The music > > was good but everything else was dumb. What's > with > > these hippie raves? > > All the party was missing was the stench of sage > > burning! The visuals > > were rad! The vibe was no where to be found. I > got > > bored around 2:30. > > Next time I hope they find a better loc. > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at > http://mail.yahoo.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 17:58:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24313 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 17:58:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 24303 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 17:58:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO l3mail1.netzero.net) (209.0.233.35) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 17:58:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 27720 invoked by uid 0); 3 May 1999 17:58:24 -0000 Received: from dialup-209.245.64.105.losangeles1.level3.net (HELO katskratcher) (209.245.64.105) by 209.0.233.35 with SMTP; 3 May 1999 17:58:24 -0000 Message-ID: <010f01be9590$42b770a0$6940f5d1@katskratcher> From: ",,^. .^,," To: "Ball, Tera" Cc: "SFRaves" Subject: Re: Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:10:42 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk actually, it was not meant to be rude at all.. if i had said something to the effect of "shaddup and go to a massive you unknowing newbie" then that would've been rude... in truth what i said to you is what i say to myself if i start to get bored at a club... there are lots of things to do to rid yourself of boredom.. firstly, try finding someone to talk to, you never know.. you might make some new friends, if that doesn't work, start jumping around like a mad woman and wait till the music changes to something more suited to your own tastes... find someone with toys to trade with... or even sit and give someone you don't know a massage, thats always a nice thing to do.. so in essence i was only giving you the advice i follow myself in similar situations.. :o) |Why are you so rude? Like you have never been bored! | | -----Original Message----- | From: ,,^. .^,, [mailto:kat_@bigbrother.com] | Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 11:02 AM | To: Jess ica; Ball, Tera; SFRaves@hyperreal.org | Subject: Re: | | boredom is a lack of creativity :o) | | | | |people who get bored are boring, havent you learned |that yet? I dont | |know what you are talking about "hippie" raves??? Just |curious. like | |i said before | | | |i had fun, | |Jessica | | | |--- "Ball, Tera" wrote: | |> All I have to say is Honey was a weak party! I felt | |> like I was at a | |> high school dance. There was one room and an out | |> door area. The music | |> was good but everything else was dumb. What's with | |> these hippie raves? | |> All the party was missing was the stench of sage | |> burning! The visuals | |> were rad! The vibe was no where to be found. I got | |> bored around 2:30. | |> Next time I hope they find a better loc. | |> | | | | | | | | NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? | Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at | http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html | NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 17:58:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25409 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 17:58:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 25247 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 17:58:50 -0000 Received: from web805.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 17:58:50 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503180311.28085.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web805.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 03 May 1999 11:03:11 PDT Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:03:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: I AM SO BAD!!!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk sorry i posted a response to a private email, i am a horrible horrible email lister, who should be totally ragged on for doing that. it was a mistake, a total 100% authentic mistake, sorry guys. so arrest me. Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 18:01:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28340 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 18:01:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 28312 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 18:01:08 -0000 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 18:01:08 -0000 Received: from cruinc.com ([209.157.30.51]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id KAA05271; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:55:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <372DE2CC.2AAB9F4D@cruinc.com> Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 10:54:24 -0700 From: RobinT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ball, Tera" CC: "'SFRaves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: Re: Honey WAS sweet! References: <756B30A53DCBD111BABC00A0C981D46372AC6C@ASPEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi Tere, I am sorry to hear that you weren't as pleased with Honey as so many of us were! Hopefully you will have a better time at one of the future parties that the colorblind collective throws in the future! Personally, I had a SUPER time! One of the first parties I went to where I recognized so many wonderful people that I have met along my raving way! As far as the location was concerned, well I thought it was one of the most clean, safe, and comfortable locations I have ever been to! Clean working water fountains, not that you really needed them with the free bottled water all night! PLENTY of clean space to chill in. It was so nice not to have to fight for a spot to stand, sit, or even dance! The rest rooms were practically sterile they were so clean! And if you ask me, I would take a peaceful, happy, hippie type vibe over a hard, intense, gangster type vibe any day! The cost of the party was very reasonable and considering what they had to work with, they did a great job with visuals and decorations. The music fed my soul. Jauqman kicked ass! Saw him and his other half Dana there! They are such real cool people! My only wish is that it wasn't so chilly out side so I could have enjoyed the jungle a little more! :o( Other then that though, my boyfriend and I agreed that it was a great place and a great time! MAD PROPS to Bobby and his crew for all their efforts! Hope you throw another party soon! Ball, Tera wrote: > All I have to say is Honey was a weak party! I felt like I was at a > high school dance. There was one room and an out door area. The music > was good but everything else was dumb. What's with these hippie raves? > All the party was missing was the stench of sage burning! The visuals > were rad! The vibe was no where to be found. I got bored around 2:30. > Next time I hope they find a better loc. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 18:10:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8711 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 18:10:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 8690 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 18:10:19 -0000 Received: from fillmore.paix.cp.net (HELO fillmore.criticalpath.net) (209.228.15.40) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 18:10:19 -0000 Received: (cpmta 5198 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 11:10:18 -0700 Date: 3 May 1999 11:10:18 -0700 Message-ID: <19990503181018.5197.cpmta@fillmore.criticalpath.net> X-Sent: 3 May 1999 18:10:18 GMT Received: from [207.251.8.120] by mail.club.net with HTTP; 03 May 1999 11:10:18 PDT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: benchun@MIT.EDU From: Tabitha Hanrion Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.0 Subject: Re: Best of SFR 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 30 April 1999, b e n c h u n wrote: > > hey does anyone know where Minh is right now? > on some world tour, or something? Just saw Minh a few weeks ago at the Epiphany party. He's doing swell. Same sweet bitch as always, just like we want him to be! tabitha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 18:11:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9722 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 18:11:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 9516 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 18:10:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 18:10:54 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 246 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:07:47 -0700 Message-ID: <372DE9D4.FC4FD113@hrg.com> Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 11:24:20 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFraves peeps Subject: Thanks from Balance Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Id like to take a minute and say thanks to everyone that came out and partied with us on the beach this Friday for Full Moon. We had a great time gettin down with everyone, the vibe everyone brought with them was wonderfull. Much love and respect to Foundation, the other crew that was out there throwin down the trance, who were so kind as to let us use their torches during set up. Much thanks to those of you on the list who came out and supported, Marty, Jonas, and Victor, and any of those I didnt get to meet. On another note, we do have one request for next time... We wound up with ALOT of trash left on the beach to clean up...someone left lawn furniture and what not. It took us a long time to clean that stuff up. If we want to continue doing these events, we need to work together in making sure that we leave the land in the same condition it was in when we got there...otherwise these events will not be able to continue. Sooo....In conclusion...if all goes as planned the next full moon will be on May 30th... In the meantime...I will be playing at Jonas's party Red Room on the 14th...also, Martys party at Kaboom will be going on the same night...so it looks like Ill have some hopping to do. Please support these guys, their hearts are in it, and their energy is amazing... peace john rodriguez balance productions From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 18:12:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10586 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 18:12:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 10555 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 18:12:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 18:12:11 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 221; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:09:46 -0700 Message-ID: <372DEA49.5FC35DBB@hrg.com> Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 11:26:17 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MacBunny CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 4:20 kidz!! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > the highlight though was TRAXX. Traxx is AMAZING. That guy is definitly one of my favorites. Dream party line-up - Romanthony Derrick Carter Traxx ...maybe one day... john r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 18:17:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14780 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 18:17:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 14748 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 18:17:27 -0000 Received: from web806.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 18:17:27 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503181521.840.rocketmail@web806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web806.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 03 May 1999 11:15:21 PDT Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:15:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: To: ",,^. .^,," , "Ball, Tera" Cc: SFRaves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >start jumping around like a mad woman This is my personal favorite, you may have noticed at the party. Another suggestion: LAUGH. Sometimes I am sitting at a party and I just laugh, and laugh, its so funny, sober or not. Maybe next time you should bring a drum, bang on it, and not be bored, uuuuh ohhh then youd be a hippy...right? jessica --- ",,^. .^,," wrote: > actually, it was not meant to be rude at all.. if i > had said something to > the effect of "shaddup and go to a massive you > unknowing newbie" then that > would've been rude... in truth what i said to you is > what i say to myself if > i start to get bored at a club... there are lots of > things to do to rid > yourself of boredom.. firstly, try finding someone > to talk to, you never > know.. you might make some new friends, if that > doesn't work, and wait till the music > changes to something more > suited to your own tastes... find someone with toys > to trade with... or even > sit and give someone you don't know a massage, thats > always a nice thing to > do.. > so in essence i was only giving you the advice i > follow myself in similar > situations.. :o) > > > > |Why are you so rude? Like you have never been > bored! > | > | -----Original Message----- > | From: ,,^. .^,, [mailto:kat_@bigbrother.com] > | Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 11:02 AM > | To: Jess ica; Ball, Tera; SFRaves@hyperreal.org > | Subject: Re: > | > | boredom is a lack of creativity :o) > | > | > | > | |people who get bored are boring, havent you > learned > |that yet? I dont > | |know what you are talking about "hippie" raves??? > Just > |curious. like > | |i said before > | | > | |i had fun, > | |Jessica > | | > | |--- "Ball, Tera" wrote: > | |> All I have to say is Honey was a weak party! I > felt > | |> like I was at a > | |> high school dance. There was one room and an > out > | |> door area. The music > | |> was good but everything else was dumb. What's > with > | |> these hippie raves? > | |> All the party was missing was the stench of > sage > | |> burning! The visuals > | |> were rad! The vibe was no where to be found. > I got > | |> bored around 2:30. > | |> Next time I hope they find a better loc. > | |> > | | > | | > | | > | > | NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. > Shouldn't you? > | Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > | http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > | > > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't > you? > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 18:38:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29274 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 18:38:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 29256 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 18:38:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aspen.sc-intl.com) (207.218.171.40) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 18:38:19 -0000 Received: by ASPEN with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <2086P01V>; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:40:47 -0700 Message-ID: <756B30A53DCBD111BABC00A0C981D46372AC72@ASPEN> From: "Ball, Tera" To: "'SFRaves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:40:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What parties are going on this weekend besides Vorg and the free Skills party? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 19:17:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25582 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 19:17:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 25571 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 19:17:14 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 19:17:14 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA13682; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:16:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca4-45.ix.netcom.com(209.110.224.237) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma013601; Mon May 3 14:15:18 1999 Message-ID: <372DF58D.81542729@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 12:14:21 -0700 From: Ray Vonie Organization: Feel Good Entertainment X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Adair CC: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, SFraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: a few words on Hi and the weekend References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Will calling a pre sale line would be extremely confusing. you know how those nasty long lines back up behind the guest list, well imagine huge lines of people waiting to have someone find their name on a pre sale list. it would be ugly. Even our sfrecords online list is is time consuming and we staff 2 people to run it. one of the main persons that people buy pre sales is to get in faster, and to avoid waiting in line. promoters just need to make sure their pre sale tickets are very hard to duplicate. Keep it mellow, Vlad Greg Adair wrote: > Ok... Stupid question as I have never promoted for large enough parties to > necessitate presales... Why have the actual physical pre-sale ticket?? > Why not have the presale locations write down names... Like John Smith > (4tickets) or something... It seems that in the age of computers it > wouldnt be tooo difficult to compile an alphabatized list of presales and > have them pick them up at the door, kinda like the way buying presales > through sfrecords.com does... I can see at large parties (like FGE > events) this being a problem, but I am assuming these arent the parties > suffering from counterfiting as much as the smaller parties, like this > VORG party... Sure it is a pain in the ass for the organizer, but so is > printing presales, and losing a few hundred to a few thousand dollars on > people with fake tickets... > just a thought... > > GregerE > > > << Even though we had valid pre-sale tickets, > > apparently there were fake tickets going around; which we knew about > > from the message two hours before we left our house that evening. We > > assumed that action would be taken and the people with non-valid tickets > > would not be allowed in and no tickets would be sold at the door; it was > > supposedly only pre-sale!!! However, after waiting in line they told us > > they would be refunding money, because they couldnt let us in. >> > > > > First off.. >Hopefully karma will be getting back to these people who > > copied the tickets very soon. I can't believe someone would be so desperate > > to go to a party, that they would dick everyone over like this. Too bad > > those of you that didn't get in didn't make it out to Lunar Enlightenment > > where you could have partied for free =) > > but I think it is important to take the time to make presale tickets that > > can't be duplicated, or at least can be told apart from ones that have been > > duplicated. I know it gets expensive to laminate tickets or print out ones > > with stamps on them or whatever, but the trouble it saves is worth it. Think > > how many people had to be paid bacK?? oh well.. that's my little word on that. > > > > Got to see my boi Bryan Lee last night! YEAH! LA style trance up in an > > empty T-room. I'm ready to hibernate until summer. then it's time for the > > CAMPOUTs if yanno what I mean. > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 19:41:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9065 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 19:40:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 9050 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 19:40:56 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 19:40:56 -0000 Received: from WWoodliff@aol.com (7812) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vWTUa15860 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:37:48 -0400 (EDT) From: WWoodliff@aol.com Message-ID: <43a0d955.245f5507@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 15:37:43 EDT Subject: RE: To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It was a weak party and the only thing good about it was the music and the visuals???? I don't get it, isn't that where it all starts? Somebody help me out, have I been going out to parties for the past 6-7 years to hear good music and be with great people and really its just been one big booty call all along!!!! >All I have to say is Honey was a weak party! I felt like I was at a >high school dance. There was one room and an out door area. The music >was good but everything else was dumb. What's with these hippie raves? >All the party was missing was the stench of sage burning! The visuals >were rad! The vibe was no where to be found. I got bored around 2:30. >Next time I hope they find a better loc. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 19:44:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12837 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 19:44:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 12614 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 19:43:53 -0000 Received: from law-f24.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.87) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 19:43:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 23848 invoked by uid 0); 3 May 1999 19:43:47 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503194347.23847.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.236.45.61 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 03 May 1999 12:43:47 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.236.45.61] From: "Wil Hanno" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: PLURR (was RE:little kids at parties) Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 12:43:47 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Little kids at parties...this is something I'm seeing more and more of lately. I saw a 7 year old girl at a UG party just having a grand ol time. No parents to be seen anywhere near. I saw a kid no more than 13 this weekend rollin HARD. Just wandering around by himself. Kids that age dont need to be at parties. These are kids who need to be asleep safe in bed. Not up at 3 am in a warehouse in the middle of downtown Oakland and certainly not in a place where a lot of people are on drugs. And as a side note to anyone who asked me..."No, I will not sell my Mad Hatter hat for any amount of E" maybe there should be a second "R" in "PLUR" PLURR peace, love, unity, respect, & responsibility Be safe everyone, John From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 19:50:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17770 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 19:50:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 17529 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 19:50:00 -0000 Received: from corpmail1.jps.net (209.63.224.250) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 19:50:00 -0000 Received: from kickass (209-239-201-92.oak.jps.net [209.239.201.92]) by corpmail1.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA01727; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <019501be959e$84341610$77019665@cuhelp.com> From: "Jay" To: "Wil Hanno" , References: <19990503194347.23847.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: PLURR (was RE:little kids at parties) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 12:52:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > maybe there should be a second "R" in "PLUR" > PLURR > peace, love, unity, respect, & responsibility Would we have to roll our R's then ? Some people have issues with that.... =) Love & Music, -Jay From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 19:55:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23965 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 19:55:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 23948 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 19:55:51 -0000 Received: from web706.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.26) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 19:55:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503195540.24929.rocketmail@web706.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.242.20.101] by web706.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 03 May 1999 12:55:40 PDT Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 12:55:40 -0700 (PDT) From: mike bolger Subject: did Mark Farina even spin ? To: The Red Stickman , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --- The Red Stickman wrote: > > Could it have been any more perfect? sunday was a pretty cloudy and overcast day that i would have just spent reading a book inside, so i didn't mind being club guy for most of the day. Micky was decked out. i've been dressing up for special events lately and i like to see when other people take the time and effort to do so also. and i don't mean dressing up in the peach-pit-after-dark sound factory sense of the word, but just getting exotic or freaky and taking a bold fashion risk. a good friend of mine left the party in handcuffs. it makes you think just how many twists of fate are between you and jail at any given party moment. regardless of wheter or not you got laid, whether you found your groove or not, or even if no one smiled at you the entire day, if you don't have to see the inside of a cell you're lucky. i don't think i want to say anything more on that. > > (no.) > > =) > > love, > michael > o)-< > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 20:10:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2921 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 20:10:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 2909 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 20:10:37 -0000 Received: from ns.ultimanet.com (HELO iceberg.ultimanet.com) (205.179.129.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 20:10:37 -0000 Received: from [206.132.214.162] (06-107.006.popsite.net [206.132.215.107]) by iceberg.ultimanet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA24720 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 13:14:33 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 12:12:35 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: terry estioko Subject: Honey n' Nuts: A Colorblind review Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk First off I wanted to clear up any confusion by stating that Viberation was in no way affliated with the Vibecreation party that happened last weekend. Viberation is the nutty crew in our third year of throwing small vibey parties, some including: Wavelength, Sinister, Vibe This!, and that Japanese Freakfest a little over a month ago. I know little about Vibecreation, other than they have a hard time coming up with an original name for their parties. Heard their party went well though, so congrats on their success. Anyway, It's been a while since I've posted any party reviews on SFR, but since I keep seeing posts about poorly planned parties, greedy promoters, and overall bad experiences, I felt I'd share my positive experiences at Honey. Now I heard about this event quite a while back at a Spin Cycle, Cloudfactory's weekly in Monterey. The Colorblind crew often frequents this event. They're a very new crew throwing their first party. Last minute they asked us to help out with lighting/visuals/party stuff. There was a bit of a scramble setting up which resulted in a late start, sorry about that. We were only able to get into the space an hour before the event and there was a bit of last minute logistics with the space people. But I believe we were mostly set up and they started letting people in shortly after 10pm. The space in one word....immaculate! I'm so tired of parties where you get sick from breathing in old dust the place stinks and the ceiling is dripping all over you from the condensation. Honey was held in a spanking clean gym on the CSUMB campus, which used to be Ford Ord. The venue was out in the middle of nowhere, no nearby residents to disturb or upset. And Colorblind even rented out two entire campus parking lots so everyone could park close to the space. The bathrooms were very clean, there were several drinking fountains inside the building, but they still offered plenty of free bottled water and fruit. The main dancefloor was reall huge and there were bleachers on one side. I particularly liked the fact that since the party wasn't oversold, there was planty of room to find a nice spot to relax or dance your ass off. The DJ lineup was a bit random, but I really enjoyed the variety and they all played solid sets. Jeph (who I haven't seen in years) played some good old-skool breaks, some old DJ Dan and a remix of Rob Base.. AndyW tried to melt people's brains with his machine grinding techno that makes bodies move in wierd ways. Joaqman (who I've never seen play out until that night), got into his tribal groove as he spun barefoot and glided on the decks. The outdoor jungle area got shut down a bit early, but Hak & Siphon (who were signing autographs the next day at the Monterey Bay Aquarium) got people jumpin' and I got to hear a new aspiring jungle DJ, Meadow. Now there was a Joe Law presence at the party, several cop cars patrolled the outside parking lots, and a few would stand near the entrance. But I felt that they were very respectful and non-intrusive to the event. Now a lot of this was undoubtedly due to the "space respect" the attendees showed that night. I didn't see anyone smoking inside or doing anything "blatant". I didn't see one bit of tagging, no unscruplulous dealers. I found most of the people to be really nice and courteous. It would have only taken the actions of a selfish few to cause problems for the event. Thankfully, that didn't happen.This was refreshing to see, a pleasant rave, where everyone was civil to each other. A bit of give and take....a little cooperation from everyone. If more people respected spaces, we would have more parties like this. There were a few drug arrests, but all of them were due to people's lack of discretion, and most of them occurred outside in the parking lot. Remember, just because it's a "rave" doesn't mean it's okay to do drugs out in the open. Scott and I enjoyed bringing out lighting and visuals. The space was big enough to do the Technobeams justice. For those who don't know what technobeams are, they are a brand new high end intelligent lighting fixture that does 3-D projections and has built in lasers...they kick ass and they're a lot of fun to play with! Not cheap, but definitely worth it. I met a lot of cool people, saw many old familiar faces, saw a lot of Monterey Bay area ravers, met a lot of newbies, basically everyone I came across was nice. Smiles all around. All in all, I'd say it was a surprisingly awesome event. It was especially cool to see the Colorblind crew in action, it's hard to throw a party for the first time, as I'm sure they discovered. But they kept their guests at the top of their list, kept their cool against adversity, and threw this party for the love of the scene. Thanks Bobby and the Colorblind crew for a happy night =) -terry P.S. the party was only $10. P.P.S. What you get out of a party is proportionally reciprocal to what you put into it. Sorry Tera that you were bored, I knew there were plenty of people there (including myself) that would have been happy to entertain you with our goofy antics if approached. ------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@viberation.com http://www.viberation.com/terry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 20:27:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14787 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 20:27:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 14647 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 20:27:25 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 20:27:25 -0000 Received: from PHUNKN3@aol.com (8056) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vXDCa20663 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 16:26:26 -0400 (EDT) From: PHUNKN3@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 16:26:25 EDT Subject: BSP: DOC SCOTT TONITE!!! / PHUNCKTION..... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 56 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What up folks, Tonite (May 3rd), @ DENSITY: DOC SCOTT 31 records / Metalheadz / Reinforced / Goodlooking * w/ djs Noel & Juju PHUNCKATECK / PHUNCKTION Justice league 628 Divisadero St. @ Hayes info: 415.789.8000 x 1147 Also, Phunckteck presents: P H U N C K T I O N...every tues *Drum & Bass in motion* w/ residents Noel & Juju THE TOP 424 Haight st. @ Webster info: 415.789.8000 x 1147 out, PHUNCKATECK COMMUNICATIONS--communicating to the world thru music http://www.sfdb.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 20:37:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21470 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 20:37:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 21459 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 20:37:10 -0000 Received: from law2-f51.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.51) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 20:37:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 45861 invoked by uid 0); 3 May 1999 20:36:43 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503203643.45860.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.103.171 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 03 May 1999 13:36:43 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.103.171] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: PLURR (was RE:little kids at parties) Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 13:36:43 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i think more people need to speak up about how kids shouldn't really be at parties. it sounds kinda discrimiating and harsh, but there's a point where it's not appropriate and safe for them. for example, i know dealers that won't sell e to just anyone, like 12 yr olds. i like your idea about the 2nd R in PLUR. people do need to learn how to party more responsibly. when i first started raving, we never had a designated driver, and i was always the one to drive (no matter what, sober or not). now that i look back on it, i see that i was STUPID! i was young and irresponsible. i got a reality check when i was driving and tripping my ass off and almost ran into one of those concrete pillars that hold up the freeway. i almost killed me and my 11 other friends that were riding along with me. nowadays, we always have designated drivers. if i know that my boyfriend's getting fucked up at a party, i'll stay sober. and when i get fucked up, he stays sober. plus, we know our limits (even though he could argue against that, saying that i drink past my limit. but at least i'm not overdosing on drugs!) this is all called responsibility. we all need to learn it and practice it. love lia From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 20:58:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1903 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 20:58:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 1844 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 20:57:59 -0000 Received: from commercial.dsp.com (199.4.121.145) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 20:57:59 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-163.dsp.com [204.118.76.163]) by commercial.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA06743 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 13:36:14 -0700 Message-Id: <199905032036.NAA06743@commercial.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 13:57:52 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: re: kids at raves, drug contraindications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk let's hope they're *not* also taking MDMA... (btw, did anyone see the great article on "America's altered states" in Harper's? The author outlines pretty well why it's a bad idea to mix SSRIs with things that release serotonin, as an aside in a fantastic article on OTC drugs vs. illicit drugs and the political/$$$ arena) Monday May 3 2:01 PM ET Half million kids given Prozac-like drugs NEW YORK, May 03 (Reuters Health) -- More than 75% of primary care doctors surveyed said they had prescribed children selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs), such as Prozac, even though these drugs have not been approved for use in children. On the basis of the survey, which included 557 primary care doctors, about 500,000 prescriptions for SSRIs are prescribed annually for adolescents and children under age 18, estimated Dr. Jerry L. Rushton of the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, and colleagues. Rushton presented his team's findings Saturday at the Pediatrics Academic Societies annual meeting in San Francisco, California. Although restraint should be used with the drugs, they are beneficial in certain well-defined cases, according to Rushton. The SSRIs are not appropriate for control of aggressive behavior or for other behavioral problems, the Chapel Hill researcher warned. ``We were originally concerned about overuse (of SSRIs in children). They are often used in combination treatments and for attention deficit disorder,'' Rushton said. ``We're finding that some of these medications are very beneficial in adolescents... and they were very infrequently used in children under the age of 6.'' It appears that the SSRIs are safe and effective when used in the treatment of uncomplicated, mild depression, Rushton noted. ``They should be used along with counseling, not as a replacement for it,'' he added. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 21:04:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6324 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 21:04:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 6309 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 21:04:28 -0000 Received: from ns.ultimanet.com (HELO iceberg.ultimanet.com) (205.179.129.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 21:04:28 -0000 Received: from [206.132.214.162] (01-019.006.popsite.net [206.132.214.19]) by iceberg.ultimanet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24829 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:08:24 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 13:06:20 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: terry estioko Subject: Stopping Ticket Duplications Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk There are plenty of ways to stop tickets from being forged. I've seen some pretty simple tickets that are just xeroxes on colored paper that scream, "copy me copy me!" I would expect that considering there is a supposed uprise in counterfeiters out there, promoters would take extra, simple precautions to make life easier for everyone. A few common strategies are custom rubber stamps, special inks, lamination, non-conventional printing techniques, a custom embossing machine (like harmony has), hidden watermarks (carefully inspect the most recent cloudfactory and viberation tickets), perforations, number machine stamping, etc. Using a combination of these and alerting the crew so they can spot forgeries is a necessity in throwing parties. I won't go into specific details about the above techniques for obvious reasons, but if any promoters inquire I will happily divulge our strategies. -terry ------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@viberation.com http://www.viberation.com/terry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 21:07:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8007 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 21:07:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 7774 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 21:07:23 -0000 Received: from f82.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.188) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 21:07:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 64181 invoked by uid 0); 3 May 1999 21:06:55 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503210655.64180.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 03 May 1999 14:06:55 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Weekend review (HI &misc stuff) Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 14:06:55 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well my weekend started off on Friday with a trip down to the russia house for the VORG party. Nice location I have been wanting to eat dinner there for some time but due to there being a party there dinner was not likely that night. :( Decent size location but I think it was a little two small for the massive turnout. I can't complain about the line situation cause I waited in line for about 5 seconds before security said "You Mr. over there come with me" and I was wisked to the front door and let in. Wow!! membership has it's privieleges. Thanks Isaac :-) The music was semi average even though there were "Famous" or "Top notch" DJ's in the main room. I was forced to dance by a DJ that I have never heard before that DJ was, Mr. Eric brown. He was playing some super tracky house and had me moving and grooving He should have been in the main room.I left early around 1 am There was still a line when I left so I wonder if everyone got in. Overall it was ok, got to see some old people and meet new people and I even got asked What Highschool I went too? That was kind of kewl in a way cause I feel old But as soon as I explained that I do not go to skewl I work and that I was not on any drug other then advil the cutie candy raver did not seem as interested :(. On to Saturday.. Well this part is pretty boring just spent most of the day working on props and then went to bed. I give big ups to harmony crew and any other krews that make there own props it is a lot of hard work and takes time and dedication but I already knew that cause we make all our props which isn't much but still a lot of work. Much respect to prop makers and SB harmony staff. see ya Saturday Macadio (supercalifragilisticespmackadocious) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 21:15:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14859 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 21:15:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 14848 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 21:15:37 -0000 Received: from dummy.sirius.com (HELO phat.r8x.net) (root@207.44.194.129) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 21:15:37 -0000 Received: from x-radio.com (toker [192.168.1.19]) by phat.r8x.net (8.8.5/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA27942 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:15:34 -0700 Message-ID: <372E1208.8655CE76@x-radio.com> Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 14:15:52 -0700 From: "W. P. Risenhoover" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: JOB: Assistant Buyer at X-RADIO.COM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi All, X-RADIO.COM is in the process of expanding our staff and are interested in hiring an Assistant Buyer. This is a part-time position (fewer than ten hours per week) that requires previous experience in the retail industry (preferably music). This person will be responsible for placing orders with our suppliers, receiving inventory, updating the online database, writing reviews, and maintaining relations with our labels. This person must also be willing to help with data entry, shipping, and must be capable of using a computer, email, the WWW, and mailing lists. Either deep knowledge of a specific music genre or a background in merchandising (such as hats, shirts, or gear) would be helpful. Important: If you can't tell me what invoices or purchase orders are, or explain to me the concept of "gross margins", please don't apply. Otherwise, please send or fax your resume to Paul Risenhoover. Please do not call to ask about the position. NO TWEAKERS!!! fax: 415.487.0300 email: pauly@x-radio.com Bonus: This is a paid position, and of course, the winning applicant gets not only hired, but a steep discount off of retail! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 21:31:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22946 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 21:31:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 22906 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 21:31:15 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 21:31:15 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA09017 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:31:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990503143529.007eeeb0@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 14:35:29 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: RE: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm confused as well... Tera, from your complaints alone this sounds like it was a great party... I'm sorry I missed it. But, then again, I tend to like those awful hippie folks with their drums and vibes... hmmm. Don't listen to me though... I'm just another Berkeley freak. Love, Carly > >It was a weak party and the only thing good about it was the music and the >visuals???? I don't get it, isn't that where it all starts? Somebody help me >out, have I been going out to parties for the past 6-7 years to hear good >music and be with great people and really its just been one big booty call >all along!!!! > > > >>All I have to say is Honey was a weak party! I felt like I was at a >>high school dance. There was one room and an out door area. The music >>was good but everything else was dumb. What's with these hippie raves? >>All the party was missing was the stench of sage burning! The visuals >>were rad! The vibe was no where to be found. I got bored around 2:30. >>Next time I hope they find a better loc. > > *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 21:39:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28853 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 21:39:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 28599 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 21:39:32 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 21:39:31 -0000 Received: from TriXXXXe4@aol.com (8063) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vSXQa24050 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 17:38:50 -0400 (EDT) From: TriXXXXe4@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 17:38:50 EDT Subject: *aCiD BreAKS* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Oh Kay, Where To StaRt..... I HOpe Yoo aLL Heard STYRKE's seT He Was SpiNNin Mah SoUtH FLoRiDa BreaKBeats I SweAr I WaS in TeaRs i Miss It OVA ThEre The ParTy Was PHat! i HaD a BLasT!!!!! TheRe Was 1 ChIc Kristie there though who Man i Wish I WouLDa KiKKed HeR azz. TeLL me? Since when Does it matter wHat Your Friends LooK LIke? ThaT Chic GoT MaJoR ProBLems TrYin To TaLk SMaCk BouT Mah FrieNdZ The WHOLE CAR DRIVING INTO THE FENCE THIng Was JuSt WRONG!! i Hope That Peeps Goes To JaiL whoeva Did That. WHoeVeR SLashED my Car TiRe CaN Go To JaiL tOo NuKKas Thats FuKKed Up BuT Thanx To JON Mah LiL PiGLeT and Jason and adam and chris and SHAAY Im AiiGhT I HaVeNt SlepT Yet I ProLLy SHouLD MucH LOve Linz From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 21:49:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3106 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 21:49:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 3098 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 21:49:17 -0000 Received: from mail-oak-3.pilot.net (HELO mail03-oak.pilot.net) (198.232.147.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 21:49:17 -0000 Received: from unknown-101-81.adecco.com (unknown-101-81.adecco.com [206.24.101.81] (may be forged)) by mail03-oak.pilot.net with ESMTP id OAA04833 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:49:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason.LEE@adecco.com Received: from boxster.hq.adia (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unknown-101-81.adecco.com with SMTP id OAA18766 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:49:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by boxster.hq.adia(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 88256766.0077DFB6 ; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:49:20 -0700 X-Lotus-FromDomain: US_ADECCO To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <88256766.00774DCF.00@boxster.hq.adia> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 14:48:52 -0700 Subject: Re: *aCiD BreAKS* Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Can someone please translate this? Or please direct me to a site that offers a decoder for this Alternate Caps coding for my email program? Much Appreciated Jason Alternating Cappers are sure to get Arthritis or Carpool? Tunnel syndrome at an early age. Oh Kay, Where To StaRt..... I HOpe Yoo aLL Heard STYRKE's seT He Was SpiNNin Mah SoUtH FLoRiDa BreaKBeats I SweAr I WaS in TeaRs i Miss It OVA ThEre The ParTy Was PHat! i HaD a BLasT!!!!! TheRe Was 1 ChIc Kristie there though who Man i Wish I WouLDa KiKKed HeR azz. TeLL me? Since when Does it matter wHat Your Friends LooK LIke? ThaT Chic GoT MaJoR ProBLems TrYin To TaLk SMaCk BouT Mah FrieNdZ The WHOLE CAR DRIVING INTO THE FENCE THIng Was JuSt WRONG!! i Hope That Peeps Goes To JaiL whoeva Did That. WHoeVeR SLashED my Car TiRe CaN Go To JaiL tOo NuKKas Thats FuKKed Up BuT Thanx To JON Mah LiL PiGLeT and Jason and adam and chris and SHAAY Im AiiGhT I HaVeNt SlepT Yet I ProLLy SHouLD MucH LOve Linz From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 21:50:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3909 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 21:50:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 3895 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 21:50:00 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 21:50:00 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (7989) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vZXTa08652; Mon, 3 May 1999 17:48:37 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <9b37fdeb.245f73b4@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 17:48:36 EDT Subject: Re: *aCiD BreAKS* To: TriXXXXe4@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just reading this post made me feel like I was on ACID. OUCH. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 21:53:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6225 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 21:53:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 6217 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 21:53:04 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 21:53:04 -0000 Received: from BreAthNYoO@aol.com (8014) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id yXELa16144; Mon, 3 May 1999 17:52:26 -0400 (EDT) From: BreAthNYoO@aol.com Message-ID: <3fe31894.245f749a@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 17:52:26 EDT Subject: Re: *aCiD BreAKS* To: Jason.LEE@adecco.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Does it really bother you THAT much how someone else types or are you trying to start something. sheeshh..--> to each thier own. have a lovley day love andlight shaay In a message dated 99-05-03 17:49:34 EDT, Jason.LEE@adecco.com writes: << Can someone please translate this? Or please direct me to a site that offers a decoder for this Alternate Caps coding for my email program? Much Appreciated Jason Alternating Cappers are sure to get Arthritis or Carpool? Tunnel syndrome at an early age. Oh Kay, Where To StaRt..... I HOpe Yoo aLL Heard STYRKE's seT He Was SpiNNin Mah SoUtH FLoRiDa BreaKBeats I SweAr I WaS in TeaRs i Miss It OVA ThEre The ParTy Was PHat! i HaD a BLasT!!!!! TheRe Was 1 ChIc Kristie there though who Man i Wish I WouLDa KiKKed HeR azz. TeLL me? Since when Does it matter wHat Your Friends LooK LIke? ThaT Chic GoT MaJoR ProBLems TrYin To TaLk SMaCk BouT Mah FrieNdZ The WHOLE CAR DRIVING INTO THE FENCE THIng Was JuSt WRONG!! i Hope That Peeps Goes To JaiL whoeva Did That. WHoeVeR SLashED my Car TiRe CaN Go To JaiL tOo NuKKas Thats FuKKed Up BuT Thanx To JON Mah LiL PiGLeT and Jason and adam and chris and SHAAY Im AiiGhT I HaVeNt SlepT Yet I ProLLy SHouLD MucH LOve Linz >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 21:57:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10095 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 21:57:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 10070 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 21:57:36 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 21:57:36 -0000 Received: from AlexG1029@aol.com (8000) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vQUVa16058 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 17:56:13 -0400 (EDT) From: AlexG1029@aol.com Message-ID: <64f12800.245f757d@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 17:56:13 EDT Subject: the weekend review (Hi! and Acid Breaks) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey kidz! i went to Hi! past fri and then Acid Breaks on sat heres what i have to say about em (its kinda long but please read it) Hi! by V.O.R.G. first of all directions on the voicemail were hard to follow and no its not just my opinion but also about 15 other people i talked to althou u could see the place from the freeway and nearby streets findin it was a pain in the ass....it took us at least a half an hour and a couple friends of mine didnt find it at all which of course is not V.O.R.G.s fault but they couldve done a way better job on this after gettin to the party everything seemed fine Alias played a really good set (someone was wonderin why he was on for 2 hours its because DJ D was like 45 minutes late for her set so he had to take over) it was his first big party (well not really he played some clubs before but it was his first "rave") and he did an awesome job....he had to improvise 2nd hour of his set too and he was still amazin! so yall should go to Tranquility and see him =) after he played me and a bunch of friends went outside and enden up being stuck there for like 45 minutes because security thought the lobby was too full to let anybody in! wtf? people who were already inside and just came out to smoke a sig or whatever couldnt get in! and i dont even wanna talk about the presale line situation....but again it wasnt V.O.R.G. (i know this for a fact) but the owners of the space the party got shut down at around 2 am so those of u who didnt get in u didnt miss much....the reason it ended is the lady who owns the place didnt have any permits for this sort of event (um wasnt this supposed to be a permitted event?) and when the police wanted to walk around inside she got scared that they would find out and shell lose her place (kinda like what happened to Maritime) and also because people were smoking inside and taggin walls and dancin on tops of counters of the place which is actually a bar/restaurant so the owners thought they didnt need this kinda bullshit goin on heres what i think about the whole thing: to the raver folk: how long will it take for u guys to learn to be more responsible? not for everybody else but just for yourself! if u see "no smokin" signs inside dont smoke! if security asks u to get off the counter please do so permanently and not till they leave! if u cant get into the party for whatever reason please leave peacefully and try not to fuck up the nite for those who are already inside! even if its the promoters fault the people have nothin to do with it so please dont ruin it for them! to the owners of the space: i totally understand their side but i think when u make a commitment to host an event (any kinda event) u cant just say "no" in the middle of it....its disrespectfull to those who went and to those who have organized the event! if i was one of the promoters i wouldve had a good part of my rent money returned....but i dont know the terms of the agreement that V.O.R.G. and Russia House had so i shouldnt talk to V.O.R.G. and all other crews: will u guys ever start being responsible for your parties? stop blamin it on the space or the ravers! all those problems couldve been forseen and taken care of way before the party took place! i for one knew that this couldve happened because i know what kinda place Russia House is and what kinda people own it....my point is V.O.R.G. crew new it too and probably even better then i did! so if u know what u dealin with why do it? because ur gettin a deal on the rent and dont have to pay for permits? well guess what? u have lost many followers fri nite who will not come out for ur next party so the money that u saved will be lost anyway! after the party got busted there was a rumor goin around that theres some free outdoor goin on somewhere on the beach by some cliffhouse at the end of Geary so like 40 people went lookin for it and ended up findin nothin and just sittin on the beach burnin fires and talkin till the sun came up....which was the best part of my weekend! way more fun then any party! guess u shoulda been there to know what im sayin....anyway the cops found a way to fuck with us even then! they started givin out parking tickets on a public lot by the beach cuz it was street cleanin time which is 2-5 am and it was like 4:30 already! LEAVE US ALONE DAMNIT! good thing i moved my car in time not to get one but alot of people didnt and that added one more disappointment to their nite Acid Breaks by Ghostribe: im not a big fan of Homebass because the place has no vibe but i have no complaints to the Ghostribe crew....great job on organizin the party! there were no upsets at the line (and there basically was no line cuz it was handled so quickly) if u didnt have a presaly u could buy one there and the party was not crowded at all! Mook played a great set which was the only fun part oof my nite! um where the hell were Rinse/Flux/Jamalski? they never showed up for their set but Ghost and Frank took over with some kick-ass jungle so it was all good....didnt somebody say same happened with them at Dubphonic? are they turnin into Keoki now? if anyone has info on whats goin on please post it well that was my weekend i had fun overall hope i didnt bore u with my review PeAcE OuT alEx =.) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 22:00:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14007 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 22:00:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 13999 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 22:00:27 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 22:00:27 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA18717 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990503150403.007f9100@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 15:04:03 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: Re: LITTLE KIDS AT PARTIES Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The age thing is often an issue on this list, but this recent thread really hs me thinking about age limits for parties. I am just about 19 (15 days til my b-day) so it's easy for me to say that all parties should be 18+... I mean what do I have to lose? But, I remember what it was like to be 16, 17... when freedom seemed so close, yet parents and age limits always seemed to stand between me and having fun. Even now.... my 21st birthdy seems sooo far away, and there is always some great 21+ event that I have to miss. (Kung Fu Knowledge anyone?) The thing I realize now that I didn't in high school: eventually it will be your turn to have your monumental birthday and there will still be great 18+ and 21+ events going on to celebrate with. Patience is truly important. Why are we always in such a hurry to be older, better, somewhere else? We, collectively, have lost the ability to enjoy what we have, and take comfort in the fact that someday, we will be 18 or 21 and get to go to those great "once-in-a-lifetime" events. So... little kids at parties. This is truly inappropriate. My first rave was a huge step into adulthood: A rave is truly an autonomous society. It is up to the partiers to be completely responsible for themselves. It is about knowing one's personal limits and acting within those limits. To me: it was my first experience of complete self-responsiblity. I had friends with me, but I wasn't expecting them to hold my hands. It was a learning experience of great worth... just as every party since then has been. I have learned the power of dancing, of happiness, of communication, of confidence. I have learned about moderation of substances, the wonders of being sober, and the tragedies of bad judgement. I have learned to express myself and to respect myself. How can a 7 or 8 yr old or even a 13 or 14 yr old have that type of experience??? They can't. Sure, they can have fun. They can see a part of the world they never knew existed. They can see this scene with fresh eyes and a unique perspective... but they can never see the truth in it. They have no knowledge of self-limits and of appropriateness of actions. They see adults: role-models abandoning responsibilites and using drugs and being free, and they think that is reality. And it is reality, but it should not be their reality until they are older. I don't know if this makes sense, but what I am trying to say is this: Going to a rave takes a lot of growing up. Kids are growing up too fast as it is. Why encourage them to lose their innocence? They have the power of imagination and they have energy and they have happiness: and all of this without a party. I could not have handled a party before last year. I'm glad I didn't try to. I'm glad i waited until I was able to understand the significance of a rave. These kids should be given the oppurtunity to see this world, but not until they can truly understand it. I am not being elitist... I am trying to save something special in kids... their innocence. My opinion: promoters should be responsible about who goes to parties. I'm not saying their should be age limits: but you can tell a 7 yr old from a 16 yr old... and 7 yr olds should not be allowed into parties. EVen all-ages parties need to draw the line somewhere. love, Carly *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 22:02:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14923 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 22:02:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 14913 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 22:01:58 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd93.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.157) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 22:01:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 90161 invoked by uid 0); 3 May 1999 22:01:48 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503220148.90160.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.251.189.30 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 03 May 1999 15:01:47 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.251.189.30] From: "ve anne" To: raver_hp@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: jungle-life & bass kru Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 22:01:47 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk do you know why this is absolutely ludicrous? first off, the b.a.s.s. kru have been around for like five years, i think? and i haven't even heard of jungle life crew til this year. b.a.s.s. kru don't scratch. he may be a dick but dj rinse is the f*ckin shiznit (IMHO) the jungle life crew is *sic* cause it takes 6-7 peeps to do the job of one guy? ** jungle life crew vs. b.a.s.s. kru? ** i think not. veanne From: "David Ramirez" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: jungle-life & bass kru Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 17:21:48 PDT anyone else heard of this?.. jungle-life crew vs bass kru??.. well griff from jungle life told me about it at daybreakz and i just heard about it on kzsu 90.1.. this is gonna be PHAT!!.. 2 sic kru's.. jus goin off!!.. along wit MC Jamalski!!.. i dunno when this gonna happen thoo.. guess jus tune into kzsu stanford 90.1.. its gonna be durrin tha day thoo.. something like a BBQ they said.. well laaate.. david.. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 22:03:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16432 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 22:03:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 16407 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 22:03:42 -0000 Received: from ns.ultimanet.com (HELO iceberg.ultimanet.com) (205.179.129.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 22:03:42 -0000 Received: from [206.132.214.162] (01-019.006.popsite.net [206.132.214.19]) by iceberg.ultimanet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA24993; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:07:41 -0700 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <88256766.00774DCF.00@boxster.hq.adia> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 14:05:45 -0700 To: Jason.LEE@adecco.com From: terry estioko Subject: Re: *aCiD BreAKS* Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello all, Where do I begin? I has a great time at Acid Breaks last night! I especially enjoyed Stryke's set, who was droppin' some South Florida Breakbeat. He moved me so much I was crying tears of joy! I really miss being in Florida. Anyways, back to the party...it was really incredible, I had a blast, although there was one particular individual named Kristie that rubbed me the wrong way. She was making rude remarks to my friends. I feel that it's inappropriate to judge people solely by the way they look, it's what's inside that counts. I hope more people subscribe to this philosophy in the future. Unfortunately, a car drove into a fence at the party. I hope everyone was alright. Remember that there will be no party if you don't arrive there *safely* first! In addition, it's quite inconsiderate to destroy public property. I hope those people were held accountable for their actions. I also hope that the people that slashed the tires on my car are also held accountable. That was a very mean and malicious thing to do. Regardless, I had a good time at Acid breaks, and particularly enjoyed the company of my friends: Jon (My lil Piglet), Jason, Adam, Chris, and Shaay. Well, it's time to hit the sack since I haven't gotten much sleep this weekend. much love, Linz Hope that helps, -terry >Can someone please translate this? Or please direct me to a site that >offers a decoder for this Alternate Caps coding for my email program? > >Much Appreciated > >Jason > >Alternating Cappers are sure to get Arthritis or Carpool? Tunnel >syndrome at an early age. > > > > >Oh Kay, Where To StaRt..... >I HOpe Yoo aLL Heard STYRKE's seT >He Was SpiNNin Mah SoUtH FLoRiDa BreaKBeats >I SweAr I WaS in TeaRs >i Miss It OVA ThEre >The ParTy Was PHat! >i HaD a BLasT!!!!! >TheRe Was 1 ChIc Kristie there though who Man i Wish I WouLDa >KiKKed HeR azz. >TeLL me? >Since when Does it matter wHat Your Friends LooK LIke? >ThaT Chic GoT MaJoR ProBLems >TrYin To TaLk SMaCk BouT Mah FrieNdZ >The WHOLE CAR DRIVING INTO THE FENCE THIng >Was JuSt WRONG!! >i Hope That Peeps Goes To JaiL whoeva Did That. >WHoeVeR SLashED my Car TiRe CaN Go To JaiL tOo >NuKKas >Thats FuKKed Up >BuT Thanx To JON >Mah LiL PiGLeT >and Jason and adam and chris and SHAAY >Im AiiGhT >I HaVeNt SlepT Yet >I ProLLy SHouLD >MucH LOve >Linz ------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@viberation.com http://www.viberation.com/terry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 22:04:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17020 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 22:04:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 16895 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 22:03:59 -0000 Received: from mail-oak-3.pilot.net (HELO mail03-oak.pilot.net) (198.232.147.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 22:03:59 -0000 Received: from unknown-101-81.adecco.com (unknown-101-81.adecco.com [206.24.101.81] (may be forged)) by mail03-oak.pilot.net with ESMTP id PAA13512 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:04:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason.LEE@adecco.com Received: from boxster.hq.adia (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unknown-101-81.adecco.com with SMTP id PAA19720 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by boxster.hq.adia(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 88256766.0079380C ; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:04:02 -0700 X-Lotus-FromDomain: US_ADECCO To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <88256766.0078CAFA.00@boxster.hq.adia> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 15:03:35 -0700 Subject: Re: *aCiD BreAKS* Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk errr, well, I guess "Car Pooling" syndrome wouldn't be so bad..... at Least I would wish that on someone more than I would on the other "proper" spelling. Thanks for the spelling Jason Perhaps I should look into a good spell checker or dictionary instead. ;) Carpool? Carpal. and Yeah, what you said! Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 22:09:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19815 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 22:09:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 19731 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 22:09:39 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd92.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.156) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 22:09:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 47343 invoked by uid 0); 3 May 1999 22:09:12 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503220912.47342.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.72.102.170 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 03 May 1999 15:09:11 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.72.102.170] From: "David Ramirez" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: jungle-life & bass kru Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 15:09:11 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i dont think its gonna be much of a battle. more like both crews jus gettin down.. david.. ----Original Message Follows---- From: Megatron45@aol.com To: raver_hp@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: jungle-life & bass kru Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 13:04:05 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 From sfraves-owner-raver_hp Sun May 02 10:06:25 1999 Received: from [209.133.83.16] by hotmail.com (1.5) with SMTP id MHotMailB8F5D11100C2D1017075D18553100C030; Sun May 02 10:06:25 1999 Received: (qmail 13940 invoked by uid 6000); 2 May 1999 17:06:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 13931 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 17:06:15 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 17:06:15 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (3939)by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iOJNa24046;Sun, 2 May 1999 13:04:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/1/99 8:22:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, raver_hp@hotmail.com writes: << anyone else heard of this?.. jungle-life crew vs bass kru??.. well griff from jungle life told me about it at daybreakz and i just heard about it on kzsu 90.1.. this is gonna be PHAT!!.. 2 sic kru's.. jus goin off!!.. along wit MC Jamalski!!.. i dunno when this gonna happen thoo.. guess jus tune into kzsu stanford 90.1.. its gonna be durrin tha day thoo.. something like a BBQ they said.. well laaate.. david.. >> so the B.A.S.S. kru are going to be skratching and shit against the jungle life crew? hmmm i wonder how this is going to look. or is it going to be a danceathon dancefloor battle as in who can keep the most people brockin out on the floor..?? DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 22:11:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21299 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 22:11:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 21250 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 22:10:57 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 22:10:57 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (4423) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id kGYFa04815; Mon, 3 May 1999 18:09:11 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 18:09:09 EDT Subject: Re: a few words on Hi and the weekend To: telkionish@fletch.fix.net CC: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/2/99 8:39:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, telkionish@fletch.fix.net writes: << Ok... Stupid question as I have never promoted for large enough parties to necessitate presales... Why have the actual physical pre-sale ticket?? >> A LARGE enough party to have presales?? Isn't it a small enough party to have presales?? It just helps with mappoints and whatnot... especially with smaller parties when you have presales that gives the promoter money up front to pay for things that they otherwise wouldn't have money for. (I.E.. someone without a lot of cash that wants to throw a party can use presale money to pay for the space to insure it's availability) Also, with presales you know how many people are getting in to a party. When you have limited capacity, it's easier than turning heads away at the door. (Even though that's been happening anyways lately.) It also gives laggers peace of mind because they know they'll get in if they're running late.. At least that was the original intent. ANyone have any other reasons?? hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 22:13:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22868 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 22:12:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 22346 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 22:12:24 -0000 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (140.142.33.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 22:12:24 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id PAA25459 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:12:21 -0700 Message-ID: <003801be95b2$31a707e0$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: "=?iso-8859-1?B?SGlioFRhoERhoEhpYmJpZHmgSG9wIGFuZKBkYaBCb2Njb2xpIEJpZmY=?=" Subject: Once I had a dream... (of DJ Dara!!) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 15:13:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ah! I have had this song in my head _all_ day long!! Nice Dara tape (forget the name of it, though), but this intoxicating vocal is making me insane! ("Once I had a dream, we were young... invincible" or something like that). If there is _anyone_ out there that happens to have the mp3 of this, could you email me privy pretty please? I am afraid the only remedy is to listen to the song over and over until I am cured... Thanks, and happy Monday, Alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- Whatever happened to the MC Times done changed for the MC Every woman and man wanna MC But for what, I'll tell ya MCin' ain't for you. -=- De La Sol From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 22:14:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25913 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 22:14:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 25864 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 22:13:57 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 22:13:57 -0000 Received: from BreAthNYoO@aol.com (8014) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id yNLZa20907; Mon, 3 May 1999 18:12:55 -0400 (EDT) From: BreAthNYoO@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 18:12:55 EDT Subject: Re: *aCiD BreAKS* To: Jason.LEE@adecco.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk you ppl are awful .. let my nigga linz be.. shooottttttttttttttttttttttttttt. Love and Light :=T shaay From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 22:17:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28312 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 22:17:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 28301 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 22:17:54 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd119.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.183) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 22:17:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 74956 invoked by uid 0); 3 May 1999 22:17:27 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503221727.74955.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.72.102.170 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 03 May 1999 15:17:25 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.72.102.170] From: "David Ramirez" To: poeie@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: jungle-life & bass kru Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 15:17:25 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk it don't matter who been around the longest.. and they not just *sic* cuz it takes 6-7 heads to mix.. they do a lot more then jus mix.. to do what they do takes skillz.. its easyer to mix by yourself then with other people.. and i don't think ONE person can do the job that jungle-life does in a set.. and i don't think this is gonna be a battle.. just tha kru's mixin doin they thing.. david.. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "ve anne" To: raver_hp@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: jungle-life & bass kru Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 22:01:47 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From sfraves-owner-raver_hp Mon May 03 15:05:30 1999 Received: from [209.133.83.16] by hotmail.com (1.5) with SMTP id MHotMailB8F768AA001CD820B65DD185531006330; Mon May 03 15:05:30 1999 Received: (qmail 14923 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 22:02:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 14913 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 22:01:58 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd93.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.157) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 22:01:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 90161 invoked by uid 0); 3 May 1999 22:01:48 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503220148.90160.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.251.189.30 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP;Mon, 03 May 1999 15:01:47 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.251.189.30] Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk do you know why this is absolutely ludicrous? first off, the b.a.s.s. kru have been around for like five years, i think? and i haven't even heard of jungle life crew til this year. b.a.s.s. kru don't scratch. he may be a dick but dj rinse is the f*ckin shiznit (IMHO) the jungle life crew is *sic* cause it takes 6-7 peeps to do the job of one guy? ** jungle life crew vs. b.a.s.s. kru? ** i think not. veanne From: "David Ramirez" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: jungle-life & bass kru Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 17:21:48 PDT anyone else heard of this?.. jungle-life crew vs bass kru??.. well griff from jungle life told me about it at daybreakz and i just heard about it on kzsu 90.1.. this is gonna be PHAT!!.. 2 sic kru's.. jus goin off!!.. along wit MC Jamalski!!.. i dunno when this gonna happen thoo.. guess jus tune into kzsu stanford 90.1.. its gonna be durrin tha day thoo.. something like a BBQ they said.. well laaate.. david.. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 22:23:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2114 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 22:22:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 2103 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 22:22:55 -0000 Received: from mail-oak-3.pilot.net (HELO mail03-oak.pilot.net) (198.232.147.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 22:22:55 -0000 Received: from unknown-101-81.adecco.com (unknown-101-81.adecco.com [206.24.101.81] (may be forged)) by mail03-oak.pilot.net with ESMTP id PAA25224 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:23:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason.LEE@adecco.com Received: from boxster.hq.adia (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unknown-101-81.adecco.com with SMTP id PAA20693 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:22:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by boxster.hq.adia(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 88256766.007AF336 ; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:22:56 -0700 X-Lotus-FromDomain: US_ADECCO To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <88256766.007A7C23.00@boxster.hq.adia> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 15:22:25 -0700 Subject: Re: *aCiD BreAKS* Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I feel obligated to apologize, because I truly don't understand you.... but I won't let that get in the way to what your trying to share with us all. Jason "Some way somewhere, communications can be bypassed from written and spoken text to melodic rhythms and thumping sounds." -me you ppl are awful .. let my nigga linz be.. shooottttttttttttttttttttttttttt. Love and Light :=T shaay From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 22:23:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2845 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 22:23:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 2664 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 22:23:11 -0000 Received: from web135.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 22:23:11 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503222347.24630.rocketmail@web135.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web135.yahoomail.com; Mon, 03 May 1999 15:23:47 PDT Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 15:23:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: JOB: Assistant Buyer at X-RADIO.COM To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --- "W. P. Risenhoover" wrote: Hi All, Important: If you can't tell me what invoices or purchase orders are, or explain to me the concept of "gross margins", please don't apply. Otherwise, please send or fax your resume to Paul Risenhoover. Please do not call to ask about the position. NO TWEAKERS!!! --------------------- Some of my best friends are "TWEAKERS" I see this as discrimination. Shunning those high-spirited and eager to please people. Why would it be bad to be a happy person? If you want someone to tell about your product, what better than to have someone who would describe it as "the best thing they ever saw." ;) *HUGZ* pat And the sign says long haired freaky people need not apply So I tuck my hair under my hat and I went in to ask him why He said you look like a fine outstanding young man, I think you'll do So I took off my cap and said imagine that, me working for you From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 22:28:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5865 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 22:28:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 5832 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 22:27:59 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 22:27:59 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (4423) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3QVNa13121 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 18:26:09 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 18:25:53 EDT Subject: Fwd: *aCiD BreAKS* To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_c63e50f2.245f7c71_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_c63e50f2.245f7c71_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am specially trained in reading this sort of AOL code and I have to say,I found it rather humorous. I also found it sort of amusing that she had such a good time at Acid Breaks, but wouldn't stay for five minutes at the last Harmony. You would think Acid Breaks would have more "shady people". ANways, to TriXXXe ~> why bother talking shit about someone after you said you hate people who talk shit?? Why not just discuss the party and leave it at that?? hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva --part1_c63e50f2.245f7c71_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-yd01.mx.aol.com (rly-yd01.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.1]) by air-yd05.mx.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Mon, 03 May 1999 17:39:55 -0400 Received: from hyperreal.org (taz.hyperreal.org [209.133.83.16]) by rly-yd01.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with SMTP id RAA17033 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 17:39:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28853 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 21:39:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 28599 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 21:39:32 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 21:39:31 -0000 Received: from TriXXXXe4@aol.com (8063) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vSXQa24050 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 17:38:50 -0400 (EDT) From: TriXXXXe4@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 17:38:50 EDT Subject: *aCiD BreAKS* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Oh Kay, Where To StaRt..... I HOpe Yoo aLL Heard STYRKE's seT He Was SpiNNin Mah SoUtH FLoRiDa BreaKBeats I SweAr I WaS in TeaRs i Miss It OVA ThEre The ParTy Was PHat! i HaD a BLasT!!!!! TheRe Was 1 ChIc Kristie there though who Man i Wish I WouLDa KiKKed HeR azz. TeLL me? Since when Does it matter wHat Your Friends LooK LIke? ThaT Chic GoT MaJoR ProBLems TrYin To TaLk SMaCk BouT Mah FrieNdZ The WHOLE CAR DRIVING INTO THE FENCE THIng Was JuSt WRONG!! i Hope That Peeps Goes To JaiL whoeva Did That. WHoeVeR SLashED my Car TiRe CaN Go To JaiL tOo NuKKas Thats FuKKed Up BuT Thanx To JON Mah LiL PiGLeT and Jason and adam and chris and SHAAY Im AiiGhT I HaVeNt SlepT Yet I ProLLy SHouLD MucH LOve Linz --part1_c63e50f2.245f7c71_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 22:32:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7944 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 22:31:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 7933 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 22:31:58 -0000 Received: from fletch.fix.net (telkionish@206.190.71.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 22:31:58 -0000 Received: from localhost (telkionish@localhost) by fletch.fix.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA10333 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 15:32:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Adair To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: *aCiD BreAKS* Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Call me an asshole, or accuse me of starting shit for saying this, I dont care.. Anything that comes into my inbox in alternating caps get deleted unread.. No offense intended, it just hurts my eyes.. GregerE ______________________________________________ Does it really bother you THAT much how someone else types or are you trying to start something. sheeshh..--> to each thier own. have a lovley day love andlight shaay In a message dated 99-05-03 17:49:34 EDT, Jason.LEE@adecco.com writes: << Can someone please translate this? Or please direct me to a site that offers a decoder for this Alternate Caps coding for my email program? Much Appreciated Jason Alternating Cappers are sure to get Arthritis or Carpool? Tunnel syndrome at an early age. Oh Kay, Where To StaRt..... I HOpe Yoo aLL Heard STYRKE's seT He Was SpiNNin Mah SoUtH FLoRiDa BreaKBeats I SweAr I WaS in TeaRs i Miss It OVA ThEre The ParTy Was PHat! i HaD a BLasT!!!!! TheRe Was 1 ChIc Kristie there though who Man i Wish I WouLDa KiKKed HeR azz. TeLL me? Since when Does it matter wHat Your Friends LooK LIke? ThaT Chic GoT MaJoR ProBLems TrYin To TaLk SMaCk BouT Mah FrieNdZ The WHOLE CAR DRIVING INTO THE FENCE THIng Was JuSt WRONG!! i Hope That Peeps Goes To JaiL whoeva Did That. WHoeVeR SLashED my Car TiRe CaN Go To JaiL tOo NuKKas Thats FuKKed Up BuT Thanx To JON Mah LiL PiGLeT and Jason and adam and chris and SHAAY Im AiiGhT I HaVeNt SlepT Yet I ProLLy SHouLD MucH LOve Linz >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 22:34:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9980 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 22:34:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 9768 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 22:34:53 -0000 Received: from shell.entic.net (root@209.249.172.242) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 22:34:53 -0000 Received: from nico.sjsu.edu (nico@x130-65-210-22.sjsu.edu [130.65.210.22]) by shell.entic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01279; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 15:35:27 -0700 (PDT) From: n i c o X-Sender: nico@nico.sjsu.edu To: Carly Bourne cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: ::: for promoters regarding age ::: In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990503150403.007f9100@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > The age thing is often an issue on this list, but this recent thread really > hs me thinking about age limits for parties. I am just about 19 (15 days > til my b-day) so it's easy for me to say that all parties should be 18+... > I mean what do I have to lose? But, I remember what it was like to be 16, > 17... when freedom seemed so close, yet parents and age limits always > seemed to stand between me and having fun. Even now.... my 21st birthdy I wanna throw my support for the idea that we need to be more aware of the people we let into the party. On one side you have, which I agree with, the idea that you shouldn't really judge who can and can't come in based on appearance. But if you can tell that this person is about ... 10 years old ... 12 years old ... 14 being the border I would assume, don't let them in. I know promoters are concerned with making their money back, but I'm sure they can do it without letting children into the party. It's just the right thing to do. : ) ((( l0ve always ))) Nico "I learned Perl on the bus." -Marc Powell nico@entic.net http://www.entic.net/~nico From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 22:35:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11274 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 22:35:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 11045 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 22:35:21 -0000 Received: from mail-oak-2.pilot.net (HELO mail02-oak.pilot.net) (198.232.147.17) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 22:35:21 -0000 Received: from unknown-101-81.adecco.com (unknown-101-81.adecco.com [206.24.101.81] (may be forged)) by mail02-oak.pilot.net with ESMTP id PAA21616; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:35:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason.LEE@adecco.com Received: from boxster.hq.adia (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unknown-101-81.adecco.com with SMTP id PAA21593; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by boxster.hq.adia(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 88256766.007C145D ; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:35:16 -0700 X-Lotus-FromDomain: US_ADECCO To: Patrick Seaton cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <88256766.007B940E.00@boxster.hq.adia> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 15:34:47 -0700 Subject: Re: JOB: Assistant Buyer at X-RADIO.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Great poem, and great point. Must be disappointing to both ends of the spectrum when a perfect candidate is disqualified for some little discrepancy. I thought people were beyond this sort of logic in the bigger cities, especially San Francisco, but I suppose we have a long ways to go before some people realize the quality of a persons character is or could never be determined by their exterior. Jason, what a sad sad thing to think about. --- "W. P. Risenhoover" wrote: Hi All, Important: If you can't tell me what invoices or purchase orders are, or explain to me the concept of "gross margins", please don't apply. Otherwise, please send or fax your resume to Paul Risenhoover. Please do not call to ask about the position. NO TWEAKERS!!! --------------------- Some of my best friends are "TWEAKERS" I see this as discrimination. Shunning those high-spirited and eager to please people. Why would it be bad to be a happy person? If you want someone to tell about your product, what better than to have someone who would describe it as "the best thing they ever saw." ;) *HUGZ* pat And the sign says long haired freaky people need not apply So I tuck my hair under my hat and I went in to ask him why He said you look like a fine outstanding young man, I think you'll do So I took off my cap and said imagine that, me working for you From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 22:35:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12060 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 22:35:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 11714 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 22:35:36 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 22:35:36 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA26438 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990503153946.007ed100@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 15:39:46 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: nrr: business space available Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > >starting june 1st i'll have approximately 1500 sq ft of space in an >office building available for monthly lease. the total amount of space >in the building is 2500 sq ft, shared by a mixed tape distribution >company, a music studio, a couple of drum 'n bass oriented humans, and >possibly your company. the building is zoned commercial, rent would be >$700/month, and the location is around 24th & mission in san francisco. > >the floor gets lots of light and is in a quiet alley off 24th st. >preferrable hours of operation would be morning-early evening. we're >looking for something electronic music oriented (like a record label) or >an internet company, possibly. throwing parties in it is NOT a >possibility! > i AM electronic music oriented... i have internet. Can I live there pulease??? Damn zoning. Commericical space in SF: 1500 sq ft: 700/month Residential Space in Berkeley: 990 sq ft: 2200/month HELP!!!!!!!!!!! love, carly *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 22:38:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15087 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 22:38:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 15075 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 22:38:50 -0000 Received: from dummy.sirius.com (HELO phat.r8x.net) (root@207.44.194.129) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 22:38:50 -0000 Received: from x-radio.com (toker [192.168.1.19]) by phat.r8x.net (8.8.5/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA28302; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:38:43 -0700 Message-ID: <372E2584.956B960A@x-radio.com> Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 15:39:00 -0700 From: "W. P. Risenhoover" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick Seaton CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: JOB: Assistant Buyer at X-RADIO.COM References: <19990503222347.24630.rocketmail@web135.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Please allow me clarify. By "tweaker", I mean somebody that uses crystal meth (or speed). It's been our experience that people who snort speed don't work out well in our environment. You can call it discrimination, if you like. If you are using the word "tweaker" in a different sense, then I apologize for the misunderstanding. No harm meant. However, we are an equal opportunity employer and we base our hiring decisions on the abilities of the candidates, not on the color of their skin, their religious backgrounds, their age, or their sexual orientations. That's all I have to say on the matter, Peace, Paul Patrick Seaton wrote: > --- "W. P. Risenhoover" wrote: > Otherwise, please send or fax your resume to Paul > Risenhoover. Please do not call to ask about the position. NO > TWEAKERS!!! > > --------------------- > > Some of my best friends are "TWEAKERS" I see this as discrimination. > Shunning those high-spirited and eager to please people. Why would it > be bad to be a happy person? If you want someone to tell about your > product, what better than to have someone who would describe it as "the > best thing they ever saw." ;) > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 22:46:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20716 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 22:46:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 20698 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 22:46:41 -0000 Received: from diana.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.239) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 22:46:41 -0000 Received: from [130.212.201.115] (madmax-115.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.115]) by diana.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA00153 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:44:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19990503162617.006a492c@apollo.sfsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 15:34:48 -0700 To: Society of Felchers and Repomen From: Michael Standish Subject: Re: "hippie" raves Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >>know what you are talking about "hippie" raves??? Hippy rave, hmm how to put it. While there have always been some people with a hippy past, and present hippy flavor in the rave scene, whole bunches of hippy ravers started showing up, a couple years ago, shortly after some fat bearded guy died. Hippy ravers often think they have dreads, but they're white, so their hair is just nappy. Most hippy ravers have perfectly reasonable hygiene habits; however, if you're smelling BO, there's a good chance that a hippy raver is near by.(and, it's definitely not one of those too much CK1 wearin' Hilfiger ravers.) Hippy ravers love drum circles, trance ('specially goa), PU-chewly, hemp clothing & accessories, and radical vegan literature. Raves that may have a hippy flavor are pretty easy to spot. For example the party that started this thread: Friday, April 30th - The Colorblind Collective and Theatre Now! presents Honey Mike Wilson, Drone, Meadow, Hak, Siphon, Mark Clark, Pengo, Leath, A.L.E.R., Ikon, Amber, Jephthah, Andy W, Joaqman, Ryan Christopher. Monterey Bay Location ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Here's your first hint of possible hippy flavor. Free Fruit-Water, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ More possible hippy flavor. Free Chai Brought to you by Nub Chai. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ And still more possible hippy flavor. Don't get me wrong: Nub Chai is yummy, and they are super nice people. But, if they're on the flyer, expect to see plenty of hippy ravers at the party. Even though this is a benefit for Theatre Now!, Tix are going to be be $10 so we can all spend the evening together as a cohesive family bonded by the love of music! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Uh oh! Check the tone of this marketing hype. More hints of hippy flavor. None of these things taken by its self is a sure sign that the rave will have some hippy influence, but taken together they make it pretty likely. Whether or not this is a good thing is up to the individual. Also if the flyer mentions drum circles, alters, or rain-forrests, expect some hippy flavor. Sir Ulrich Knight of the Turntables From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 22:52:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25742 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 22:52:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 25731 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 22:52:43 -0000 Received: from tapeheads.ednet.net (HELO mail.ednet.net) (216.112.68.132) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 22:52:43 -0000 Received: from [216.112.68.152] ([216.112.68.152] verified) by mail.ednet.net (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b2) with ESMTP id S.0000318716; Mon, 03 May 1999 15:52:38 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Sender: joe@mail.ednet.net Message-Id: Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 15:52:39 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Joe Rice Subject: [bsp] Static w/Live Human 5/4/99 Cc: ug-update@topica.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This week at Static: LIVE HUMAN, featuring DJ Quest (Fat Cat Records) and just added: TROUBLED SOUL (3-time DMC champion and Portishead tour DJ, Belfast) Residents: Joe Rice Sutekh Tomas STATIC: Tuesdays 10-2 at the Cat Club 1190 Folsom, SF 5 bucks 21+ 415.289.6980 http://www.belief-systems.com/static From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 23:10:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5442 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 23:10:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 5434 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 23:10:44 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 23:10:44 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-f3 (mmf24.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.94]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA11910; Mon, 3 May 1999 16:10:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905032310.QAA11910@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: kandykid4@hotmail.com From: "Rafie" Subject: Re: PLURR (was RE:little kids at parties) CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 16:10:53 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Next time I see seven year olds at a party I'm spanking them and giving them to the security! Rafie PS Little brats!! On Mon, 03 May 1999 13:36:43 PDT, kandykid4@hotmail.com wrote... >i think more people need to speak up about how kids shouldn't really be at >parties. it sounds kinda discrimiating and harsh, but there's a point >where >it's not appropriate and safe for them. for example, i know dealers that >won't sell e to just anyone, like 12 yr olds. > >i like your idea about the 2nd R in PLUR. people do need to learn how to >party more responsibly. when i first started raving, we never had a >designated driver, and i was always the one to drive (no matter what, sober >or not). now that i look back on it, i see that i was STUPID! i was young >and irresponsible. i got a reality check when i was driving and tripping >my >ass off and almost ran into one of those concrete pillars that hold up the >freeway. i almost killed me and my 11 other friends that were riding along >with me. nowadays, we always have designated drivers. if i know that my >boyfriend's getting fucked up at a party, i'll stay sober. and when i get >fucked up, he stays sober. plus, we know our limits (even though he could >argue against that, saying that i drink past my limit. but at least i'm >not >overdosing on drugs!) > >this is all called responsibility. we all need to learn it and practice >it. > >love lia > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 23:12:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6737 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 23:12:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 6161 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 23:11:24 -0000 Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (206.253.129.186) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 23:11:24 -0000 Received: from tar-and-gravel ([206.25.144.218]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id TAA18652 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 19:13:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990503160642.0368e140@shell4.ba.best.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 16:11:32 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: binary fineboy Subject: a question for VORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well since vorg is this weekend and it looks like another 2nd and jax party I'd like to know how many tickets are being sold in TOTAL. the whole "mostly presale" thing scares the hell out of me .... werent popsikle and tickle "mostly" presale too? 2nd and Jax can be ok (F8, skills in Dec) or ghetto as hell (pangea, origin) .. and a lotof it depends on how many people you try and cram in there .... so VORG ... how many people are you gonna try and cram in there? r ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 23:14:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10347 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 23:14:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 10302 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 23:13:53 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 23:13:53 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-197.dsp.com [204.118.76.197]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA07463 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 16:13:51 -0700 Message-Id: <199905032313.QAA07463@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 16:13:47 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: help!: track id Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I thought I posted this last night, but haven't seen it, so here goes again. I appologize if this is the second time you've seen this! My friend Troy made me this mixtape 10 years ago, and I lost it last time I moved. 'Doh! The whole tape has become a haunting aurvurum. Plus he's all successful now, touring with Meat Beat Manifesto and generally living the life he wanted to, and I'd love to whip out that tape next time I see him (does anyone know him/where he is?), and ask him why he called it "Lady Plumber." Man - the night he gave me that tape, Greg (Shock G) played us a tape of his new band, Digital Underground. Uh oh, stuck in a nostalgia spell... Anyway: the track. Very melodic, early 80s Chicago house with a fuzzy bassline. (No I'm not gonna spell it phonetically. tee hee.) Lyrics: Got to have it at my will Just for pleasure and for thrills I can't seem to get enough Hurting for the lack of love Chorus: For the lack of love (x3) Hurting/Sweating/Burning/Shot down by the lack of love Thanks in advance, party people, Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 23:16:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13105 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 23:16:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 13066 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 23:16:26 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 23:16:26 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-f3 (mmf24.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.94]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA16657; Mon, 3 May 1999 16:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905032316.QAA16657@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: BreAthNYoO@aol.com From: "Rafie" Subject: Re: *aCiD BreAKS* CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 16:16:34 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk People are bothered beC@us*E* tyeepin like*E* thiZ is DAMN IRRITATING. Its like when people post messages that are all in CAPS: they'll have posted their thing, but everyone just throws it in the trash w/o reading it because it strains the eyes and looks like the writer is a twelve year old on drugs. Rafie ps. funny how everyone who went to Acid Br*E*akz 3 posted like that On Mon, 3 May 1999 17:52:26 EDT, BreAthNYoO@aol.com wrote... >Does it really bother you THAT much how someone else types or are you >trying >to start something. sheeshh..--> to each thier own. >have a lovley day >love andlight >shaay > > > > >In a message dated 99-05-03 17:49:34 EDT, Jason.LEE@adecco.com writes: > ><< > Can someone please translate this? Or please direct me to a site that > offers a decoder for this Alternate Caps coding for my email program? > > Much Appreciated > > Jason > > Alternating Cappers are sure to get Arthritis or Carpool? Tunnel > syndrome at an early age. > > > > > Oh Kay, Where To StaRt..... > I HOpe Yoo aLL Heard STYRKE's seT > He Was SpiNNin Mah SoUtH FLoRiDa BreaKBeats > I SweAr I WaS in TeaRs > i Miss It OVA ThEre > The ParTy Was PHat! > i HaD a BLasT!!!!! > TheRe Was 1 ChIc Kristie there though who Man i Wish I WouLDa > KiKKed HeR azz. > TeLL me? > Since when Does it matter wHat Your Friends LooK LIke? > ThaT Chic GoT MaJoR ProBLems > TrYin To TaLk SMaCk BouT Mah FrieNdZ > The WHOLE CAR DRIVING INTO THE FENCE THIng > Was JuSt WRONG!! > i Hope That Peeps Goes To JaiL whoeva Did That. > WHoeVeR SLashED my Car TiRe CaN Go To JaiL tOo > NuKKas > Thats FuKKed Up > BuT Thanx To JON > Mah LiL PiGLeT > and Jason and adam and chris and SHAAY > Im AiiGhT > I HaVeNt SlepT Yet > I ProLLy SHouLD > MucH LOve > Linz >> > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 23:17:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14179 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 23:17:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 14147 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 23:17:55 -0000 Received: from mail-oak-2.pilot.net (HELO mail02-oak.pilot.net) (198.232.147.17) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 23:17:55 -0000 Received: from unknown-101-81.adecco.com (unknown-101-81.adecco.com [206.24.101.81] (may be forged)) by mail02-oak.pilot.net with ESMTP id QAA15759 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 16:17:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason.LEE@adecco.com Received: from boxster.hq.adia (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unknown-101-81.adecco.com with SMTP id QAA24010 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 16:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by boxster.hq.adia(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 88256766.007FF982 ; Mon, 3 May 1999 16:17:49 -0700 X-Lotus-FromDomain: US_ADECCO To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <88256766.007DAD65.00@boxster.hq.adia> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 16:17:19 -0700 Subject: do any of you remember? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Sometime last year, I took requests from several Mailing Lists, one of them being SFraves, and asked to whoever was interested in a copy of my CD entitled "Sleepless" to send me their address for a free copy. Now I'm not too sure if those people have unsubbed from the list or if in fact they are interested in this new promotion from me please respond privately, as I don't think you want some unwanted solicitation creeping up into your mailbox. OK, well I'm not one to expect anything in return, I believe I stated that before in my first CD give away. But my motives are the same, seek people to share my music with and seek some feedback if people are willing to provide it. And perhaps make a few new friends along the way, you never know. I know some people that have infact received the Sleepless CD are still subbed to the list, so if you have that CD, email me your address and name and I'll send you more CD's, if you requested the CD but never got a copy of it, please email me again with your name, I believe I still have the list of name that were unable to get the first batch of CD's that I sent out. For the rest of you that are interested, I request one thing since the last time I did this it really cost a bundle in time and energy and resources to do everything for free. If you would like a "Great CD" to listen too because you want to hear something new, or your tired of your played out CD's and tapes and want something fresh, then a a new CD can be yours for the cost of an Envelope and a Recordable CD, I will pay for the postage. The envelope must be of course Self Addressed, but not stamped, .... remember I've got your postage, but it must be able to hold 1 - 5 CD's depending how many CD's you want. Now if your interested heres what I got CD1 - Sleepless - which is more or less Progressive Trance / Progressive Breaks CD2 - Sleepless 2 - Which is the same, just a continuation of the first CD. CD3 - Worlds - which is Breakbeat, and Progressive Breaks, more on the trancey side but definitely funky enough for those who desire funk. CD4 - Intensity - which is Straight up Trance, and Thumping trance it is, allot of Classic hard to find shit, but one of My favorite mix CD's CD5 - ??????? - it's a collaboration of myself and Jay, it has yet to be titled and I seriously can't say whether or not its available, it would be dependent on if my other half agrees that it's suitable for public, I personally love the CD, it is also among the favorites of mine. There are more, but I just want to put a heads up, if anyone is interested, or would like track listings email me back...... from there you can get my address, send me the addressed envelope and recordable CD's and I'll get it all together for ya...... oh if any of you prefer the mini disc format, it can be available as well. Let me know Jason From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 23:34:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27878 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 23:34:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 27870 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 23:34:02 -0000 Received: from f216.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.107) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 23:34:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 62725 invoked by uid 0); 3 May 1999 23:33:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503233335.62724.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 03 May 1999 16:33:35 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: binary_fineboy@iname.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: a question for VORG Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 16:33:35 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The whole pre-sale thing depends on what type of permit you get. You can be cheap and get a small patron permit and try to pack it and run the risk of the cops saying your at capacity as per your permit paper work. Or you can get the proper permits (I.E harmony,F-8 Skillz even popsikle different issues etc.) and not worry. I kind of know the VORG kids and I can insure you that they will most likely get the proper permit. If anyone wants a primer on permits email me personally. Thanks, Macadio >From: binary fineboy >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: a question for VORG >Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 16:11:32 -0700 > >well since vorg is this weekend and it looks like another 2nd and jax party >I'd like to know how many tickets are being sold in TOTAL. > >the whole "mostly presale" thing scares the hell out of me .... werent >popsikle and tickle "mostly" presale too? > >2nd and Jax can be ok (F8, skills in Dec) or ghetto as hell (pangea, >origin) .. and a lotof it depends on how many people you try and cram in >there .... > >so VORG ... how many people are you gonna try and cram in there? > >r > > > > > > > > ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me >******* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 23:40:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 909 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 23:40:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 901 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 23:40:12 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 23:40:12 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-f3 (mmf24.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.94]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA22511 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 16:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905032340.QAA22511@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: "Rafie" Subject: Disco Biscuits Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 16:40:21 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk DISCO BISCUITS REVIEW aka MY HELLISH CAR RIDE WITH NAVYSATAN BECAUSE HE'S FULL O' ISSUES aka "WHAT, YOU'RE FRYING!?" What a nice lil party! Although we got there at like 11:30 and thought we weren't going to get in, it really wasn't crowded at all. When we entered everyone dogged us; I think it was cause Hiroko was in front in her silver and red fur "hooker" (her words) outfit and they all understood at that moment that she had come to pick up what belonged to her: the Queenship. Walked around; jungle "room" was tight: there weren't many people, so there was room to dance and it wasn't as hot as usual. Said hi to our friends there. Acknowledged Raoul's excitement at getting some new job at a noodle shop in Castro. "So you live in SF now?" "No, I'll be commuting from SR." To a noodle shop? O... k. I really liked the music; I think sound systems sound good @ the Pheonix. Highlights: that Donna Summer track; Greg Sandler spinning that one discoish track everyone loves but I forget the name; the drunk/e'ing girls in silver hooch tops who were running into people and freaking them and kept trying to get on stage in front of the DJ and lapdance the crowd; when some random took Eric's rave book and wanted to draw in it and Eric took it back because he was drawing someone with a pole shoved up their ass. The Disco King & Queen contest was the best part: almost 20 kids shoved up on the stage (some of the costumes were really good!! like Hiroko's), and most of them looking, uh, like they really didn't know what was going on. Hiroko won the Queen, and this cute kid won the King contest, and DAYUM did he think he was the shit!! Anyway, it was fun. Too bad there were so many other parties that night. 8/10 Rafie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 23:41:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1642 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 23:41:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 1627 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 23:41:08 -0000 Received: from mail-gw2.pacbell.net (206.13.28.53) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 23:41:08 -0000 Received: from pacbell.net (ppp-207-214-220-89.snfc21.pacbell.net [207.214.220.89]) by mail-gw2.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with ESMTP id QAA05639; Mon, 3 May 1999 16:40:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <372E34E6.B031FF87@pacbell.net> Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 16:44:44 -0700 From: dj flux Reply-To: djflux@pacbell.net Organization: b.a.s.s. kru/compound records X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: AlexG1029@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: the weekend review (Hi! and Acid Breaks) References: <64f12800.245f757d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk AlexG1029@aol.com wrote: > Mook played a great set which was the only fun part oof my nite! um where the > hell were Rinse/Flux/Jamalski? they never showed up for their set but Ghost > and Frank took over with some kick-ass jungle so it was all good....didnt > somebody say same happened with them at Dubphonic? are they turnin into Keoki > now? if anyone has info on whats goin on please post it > > well that was my weekend > i had fun overall > hope i didnt bore u with my review > > PeAcE OuT > alEx =.) We actually were there spinning from 1-3 am!! Jamalaski didn't show up, that's all.... Flux From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 23:43:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3329 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 23:42:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 3320 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 23:42:58 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 23:42:58 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503233625.18053.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.86.220.227] by attach1; Mon, 03 May 1999 16:36:25 PDT Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 16:36:25 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: Re: Stopping Ticket Duplications To: terry estioko , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ---terry estioko wrote: > > There are plenty of ways to stop tickets from being forged... No, there are plenty of ways to stop people with forged tickets from getting into the party. This does not address the hordes of people who are buying the tickets in the dark outside of 2nd and J who don't know any better. Who cares if the ticket has a water-mark if the result is the same: The raver just got scammed for $20 (or more). Oh, and yes, I too am part of VIBERATION, not Vibecreation. :p -Science From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 23:45:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6319 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 23:45:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 6310 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 23:45:50 -0000 Received: from ns2.divi.com (HELO kms.divi.com) (199.97.190.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 23:45:50 -0000 Received: from rmarm.divi.com by kms.divi.com (8.8.8/DiviCom-KMS) id QAA16790; Mon, 3 May 1999 16:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990503234516.00bbba1c@kms> X-Sender: isaacl@kms X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 16:45:16 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Isaac Labugen Subject: children of the sun ticket info Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hello people, hope all of you are doing well. I wanted to post some information regarding our event on Friday May 21st. It appears there was some confusion from the first email we sent out, I don't know- but anyway's this is as clear as I can make it. children of the sun....And The Journey Continues Friday May 21st Bay Area Location 9pm-6am (possibly beyond) Line Up: Brad (Moontribe/LA) special 2 hour extended set:) Beatseed (Journeys/Seattle) "Live Performance" Greg Sandler (harmony) andyW (Viberation) Macadio (First Light){bsp: first light one year May 15th:} Micron (Viberation) ambient room TBA.... FREE FRUIT & LEMONADE A Phatty Vibe Limited Capacity - Presale Tix Advised $16 presale tickets currently available @ Solid Grooves - Santa Clara Harmonics - Santa Rosa F8 - SF Trance & Jungle - Berkeley We cant wait to spend the evening with ya...we'll see ya there "spread the warmth" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 23:49:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8514 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 23:49:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 8490 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 23:49:03 -0000 Received: from kuku-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO kuku.excite.com) (198.3.99.63) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 23:49:03 -0000 Received: from claude.excite.com ([199.172.152.181]) by kuku.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990503234835.BOER21396.kuku@claude.excite.com> for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 16:48:35 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: *my* weekend review..... Message-Id: <925775315.27120.54@excite.com> Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 16:48:35 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok, i suck. i flaked on everything this weekend. first, i was supposed to go to a party at a friend's warehouse friday night. but it's so much more fun to stay at home and watch tv sometimes. then, i promised greg i'd help out with disco biscuits saturday night. sheez, i even had my vintage silver lame tie=died huge-assed collar shirt ready and a big silver scarf to wrap around my pigtails. woosed. seemed so much easier to get tofuburgers and fries with my daughter. and then i hear andy drove all the way from the so-bay to the no-bay just for it... makes me look really lazy, don't it? sunday, was hoping to get some dancing in, but stayed home and got an acupuncture treatment by my best friend sara who's in town on break from acupuncture school. bottom line, sometimes it's really great to stay in and chill. plus i didn't have to stress about badly handled lines at vorg (please, folks, take some responsibility for ticket sales, will you?) or hear whining about boredom at "hippie raves" (hey, you talkin' about my friends?!?) .... or get taken off handcuffed for my indiscretion (that would so suck).... but i WILL be at Comeunity, and i hope all you grownup househead groovers will be too! cuz i have some catch=up dancing to do! love, leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 03 23:52:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9920 invoked by uid 6000); 3 May 1999 23:52:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 9895 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 23:52:01 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 23:52:01 -0000 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.9.3/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA04031; Mon, 3 May 1999 16:48:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 16:48:34 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-Sender: andy@atari Reply-To: AndyW To: Jessica Webster cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: help!: track id In-Reply-To: <199905032313.QAA07463@mail.dsp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 3 May 1999, Jessica Webster wrote: -&e->I thought I posted this last night, but haven't seen it, so here goes -&e->again. I appologize if this is the second time you've seen this! -&e-> -&e->My friend Troy made me this mixtape 10 years ago, and I lost it last time I -&e->moved. 'Doh! I don't know the name, but it's on Classic Acid Volume 1... this compilation I've had forever cause it's got all this stuff you can't find any other way (and the pressing is actually good enough to play out). I'll get you the info tomorrow for sure, unless of course Joe Rice reads this mail, or JohnR, or any of the other crusties who always get the old school track IDs first. Think it's called 'lack of love' by Pierre's Phantasy Club (or somebody else...) or something like that. Have a nice day. :) AndyW From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 00:21:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24852 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 00:21:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 24817 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 00:21:05 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 00:21:05 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA27935; Mon, 3 May 1999 17:20:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905040020.RAA27935@mail.netwiz.net> To: Jessica Webster Cc: "San FranDisco Ravers List" Subject: Re: help!: track id In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 03 May 1999 16:13:47 -0700 Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 17:20:45 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have this on "Mastercuts Classic Acid vol. 1" Lack of Love (Adonis/CharlesB) by "CharlesB" Zomba Music Publishing 1988. alas, it's not one of my favorite cuts on this CD comp. > Man - the night he gave me that tape, Greg (Shock G) played us a tape of > his new band, Digital Underground. Uh oh, stuck in a > nostalgia spell... That is cool. Digital Underground were the best, and they put on many a great live show. I used to see them in Berkeley around '1990 (?). What's happened to them? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 00:26:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27185 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 00:26:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 27177 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 00:26:22 -0000 Received: from diana.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.239) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 00:26:22 -0000 Received: from [130.212.201.115] (madmax-135.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.135]) by diana.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA26332 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 17:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <88256766.00774DCF.00@boxster.hq.adia> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 16:14:14 -0700 To: Society of Felchers and Repomen From: Michael Standish Subject: Re: *aCiD BreAKS* Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 2:48 PM -0700 5/3/99, Jason.LEE@adecco.com wrote: >Can someone please translate this? Or please direct me to a site that >offers a decoder for this alternate caps coding for my email program? Eudora Pro baby! Fixes shit with just one click. However, I don't generally use it for funny caps; posts in funny caps are rarely if ever, worth reading. Still, Eudora's "sentence caps" feature does a good job of fixing capitalization (including "i" to "I"), so it's good for Leslie Ayer's posts, and the one or two other useful people who don't bother to use their shift keys. Now if I can just find a way to convert stupid chat room spelling. ( u r kewl) PS to Lynz: I'm not trying to put you down. I just don't like non standard caps. >Oh kay, where to start..... >I hope yoo all heard styrke's set >he was spinnin mah south florida breakbeats >I swear I was in tears >I miss it ova there >the party was phat! >I had a blast!!!!! >There was 1 chic kristie there though who man I wish I woulda >kikked her azz. >Tell me? >Since when does it matter what your friends look like? >That chic got major problems >tryin to talk smack bout mah friendz >the whole car driving into the fence thing >was just wrong!! >I hope that peeps goes to jail whoeva did that. >Whoever slashed my car tire can go to jail too >nukkas >thats fukked up >but thanx to jon >mah lil piglet >and jason and adam and chris and shaay >im aiight >I havent slept yet >I prolly should >much love >linz Sir Ulrich Knight of the Turntables From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 00:36:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1716 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 00:35:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 1698 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 00:35:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO l3mail1.netzero.net) (209.0.233.35) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 00:35:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 23785 invoked by uid 0); 4 May 1999 00:35:50 -0000 Received: from dialup-209.245.64.71.losangeles1.level3.net (HELO katskratcher) (209.245.64.71) by 209.0.233.35 with SMTP; 4 May 1999 00:35:50 -0000 Message-ID: <028901be95c7$c8c46fe0$6940f5d1@katskratcher> From: ",,^. .^,," To: , "terry estioko" Subject: Re: Honey n' Nuts: A Colorblind review Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 17:48:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Terry wrote:- P.P.S. What you get out of a party is proportionally reciprocal to what you put into it. Sorry Tera that you were bored, I knew there were plenty of people there (including myself) that would have been happy to entertain you with our goofy antics if approached. thanks Terry... you've put my point into much better words than i. in no way was i flaming the young lady for her opinion. but it does seem as though there are a growing number of people out there that don't understand that "What you get out of a party is proportionally reciprocal to what you put into it." so to clear things up, again i was -not- flaming her, just trying to suggest ways to make her next party more enjoyable. :o) NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 01:11:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16849 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 01:11:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 16750 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 01:11:25 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 01:11:25 -0000 Received: from BodhiInSF@aol.com (4532) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id oIJVa13996; Mon, 3 May 1999 21:01:29 -0400 (EDT) From: BodhiInSF@aol.com Message-ID: <6581443f.245fa0e9@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 21:01:29 EDT Subject: "hippie" raver and proud of it!!!! To: standish@sfsu.edu CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yes, Im one of those long hair, vegitarian, natural living, psychadelic loving, camping/traveling, hemp wearing, kind to everyone hippie ravers. Like the candy ravers too, I think we add color and personality to parties. So the next time you want a genuine, great big hug, and lot's of love, find a hippie raver....like me! =) Peace, love and {{hugs!}} ---Bodhi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 01:22:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20295 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 01:22:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 20284 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 01:22:44 -0000 Received: from south-station-annex.mit.edu (HELO MIT.EDU) (18.72.1.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 01:22:44 -0000 Received: from GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA28558; Mon, 3 May 99 21:22:37 EDT Received: from melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.69.0.45]) by grand-central-station.MIT.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA23343; Mon, 3 May 1999 21:22:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from benchun (BENCHUN.MIT.EDU [18.207.0.48]) by melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id VAA26671; Mon, 3 May 1999 21:22:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990503211216.0257fda0@po8.mit.edu> X-Sender: benchun@po8.mit.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 21:22:12 -0400 To: terry estioko , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: b e n c h u n Subject: reciprocation In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 03:12 PM 5/3/99 , terry estioko wrote: >P.P.S. What you get out of a party is proportionally reciprocal to what you >put into it. amen terry. and not only that, but what you put in to a party is the key to its success and key to your own happiness with the "rave scene" as part of your life. for those of you who know me, you can tell this is about to launch a tirade on participation. i'll try to keep to the point at hand. =) in my mind, what is great about the rave scene is that everyone at a party is, in their own way, a participant in what that party is all about. when you go to a party and there are lots of cool friendly people there who have something to say, something to share, a dance move to show you, a picture they drew, an idea they have been mulling over, cool clothes they made, well, that's thanks to all the people who came to the party. instead of rejecting the people and the event you have chosen to be at, why not see what they have to offer and what you have to offer them? if at the end of the night, you can honestly say that you found out what everyone there is all about and didn't like it, then that's that. but i would bet that 90% of the time you are being given the opportunity to grow and streach yourself and your ideas to understand something new. of course this is not to disregard the responsibility of the promoter/party throwers to provide the basics (safe space, bathrooms, sound, lights, theme, etc) but what's wonderful about raves is that that's not where it ends. if all i did with my weekends was go to this warehouse and that studio, waiting to be entertained and impressed by others without offering any of myself, i would be pretty damn bored too. only two more weeks of school... see you all this summer! . . . . . . . benchun@mit.edu http://mdma.mit.edu/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 01:58:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3537 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 01:58:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 3501 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 01:58:25 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 01:58:25 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (7811) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vEASa04814 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 21:56:38 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <1c5446a6.245fadd5@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 21:56:37 EDT Subject: Big M's weekend review. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Its Friday afternoon and I start out on my drive up to Sacramento from Salinas to pick up my son for the weekend. I get to Sacramento pick him up and journey back to Salinas and arrive at around 9:30pm. Exactly the time I had told my friend Id be back and at which time we were supposed to meet so that we could depart on our evening. 9:30 cam and went, as did 10:00, then 10:30 and then 11:00. After several attempts to reach my friend with absolutely no luck I headed over to Honey. As Im driving up and can see the Honey Party my phone rings, " Hello," " Dude, I feel asleep, Sorry," hahaha, I said no problem, Im over at Honey come over. Needless to say, he is hard core and wont miss a good vibe for anything. So he got up and made the half hour drive to Honey to meet up with me. I park my car, and get out and there is Jungle blaring with a good little crowd vibing in front of the gym where Honey was held. This caught me a little of guard because I wasn't expecting that at all. I thought, WOW its out doors. And only to find out later from Bobby that the cops made him move the jungle because they couldn't police the other side of the building. I must say the vibe at this party was very unique. Its not what Im accustomed to.But there definitely was a vibe there. I was disappointed at some of the posts regarding the honey party. Sometimes the vibe steams from what the people behind the party put into it. I know Bobby and Colorblind did this out of passion for their cause. It was obvious the amount of work they put into it. Getting the venue, which I know wasn't easy for them, working with the authorities to keep them from making the party feel as if it was being policed, and Bobby did a great job with working with them so they didn't have to get that police mans ego going, getting the DJ's organized and even willing to spin, providing free water and fruit, ( cuts into profits since this was a fund raiser), etc. etc. And its not like they had done this numerous times and had a lot of experience. It was their first party. So IM sure that with a party of that magnitude they did quit well for their first. And on top of all that they had to work in a market that isn't conducive to the scene like in the bay area. The same party in the bay area would have attracted a lot more people and lend to the diversity. So I commend Bobby for a job well done. And to Scott and Terry who did the visuals. Awesome job guys considering that you guys kinda had little to work with. And didn't have much time to prepare. While Scott was working the visuals I said, " Its to bad your working and cant get out there and have some fun," Scott simply turned to me and said, " I am having fun," and went on working the visuals. I then realized that he was right. Im passionate about what I do and enjoy doing it. Its fun to me too. And I didn't realize that other people must feel the same way. Just a little reminder to all who live in an unhappy world and blame everyone and everything for their lives. Find what you love and love what you live. Back to my weekend review, haha. Im at honey, my friend gets there now Im waiting for Andy W to get there with our flyers for Ethereal. BSP. And Andy Im sorry I didn't chat more. My mind was else where. I was curious on how the flyers were going to look, and about getting to my next destination which was Full Moon. And thank you so much for taking the time to deliver the flyers for us. Anyone who hasn't meet Andy W he is a really great guy. Ive only meet Andy W twice and both times where very short. And he left me both times with a great vibe. Cant wait to actually hear him spin. I had promised Jonas, Jouqman, that I would be there to hear him spin. It was already like 1:30 and I knew If I was going to get to my next party I better get on the road soon. So to Jouqman, Im sorry I cut out on you. You know I got your back though. So its around 1:30 and we begin to embark on our travels to Full Moon. About an hour drive from Monterey. We are kinda feeling lost as we drove down desolate Highway 1. But we finally see plenty of cars and a ton of police vehicles. I look over at my friend and say, " Keep driving, the party has been busted." But something tells me I should ask first. So I make him pull up to the police cars and ask, " Has the party been busted," which the police officer kindly replies, and Im serious, kindly replies, " No, park and have a great time." So hell, we did. Then we realize why there were so many police cars. One of them had a flat and it was taking like 15 to change it. hahaha. But they were really cool. We park and walk around a half mile down highway 1 to the party site. As we get closer we can faintly hear the music. It begins to get louder and more clear. Then, once on top of the sand dunes, I look out over the beach to see a huge sound system, two turn tables, a keyboard set up, about 10 bonfires, and around 300-400 people. The vibe ran through me. It was an awesome site. I began dancing all the way down the hill. Eric Erickson was spinning. The boy can straight funk it up. He was going off. He had the crowd pump. I make my way over to find John Rodriguez to say hello and commend the Balance crew on the wonderful party. I was there all night long, right in front of the DJ's dancing and groove'n. If anyone has a chance to make it to a Balance production its more than worth it. We ended up leaving at around 6:00am since I had to get home before my son woke up. The party was still jumping with no signs of slowing down at all. I hope when the next Full Moon drops Ill be there for the whole event. Ill also be more prepared with a tent, fire wood, bar-b-que with plenty of steaks, some beer, and well a ton of friends to share the night with. This party affected me so much I pray to the Balance Crew now before I go to bed. They are all worshiped highly by me. Ummmmm Ummmmm. hahaha. I get home around 7:00am and get about an hour of sleep before my son wakes up and gets me to play playstation with him. " Dad, I need help with this level, can you help me." I end up playing play station, eating breakfast and doing the dad thing. And around 4 I get to take a nap. I sleep for about 3 hours only to get up, take a shower and prepare for the evening. I was planning on staying in. And it seemed everyone that I possible knew was calling me to go out. Its a two hour drive to the city for me and Im so tired. Not only that but I have my son to take care of. We'll, my aunt has my son covered. So that's not a problem. But Im still tired. But I finally get persuaded to see the return of Doc Martin. I wait until 9:00pm for my son to go to sleep and I begin my perilous journey up to 1015. I met up with my friends in Daly City. Pick them up and first head on over to the Velvet Lounge only to find that even though we are on the guest list for the fashion show, we cant get in. Its full. And on top of that the guest list line is the same as the regular line. So we would have to wait with about 50 people in front of us. So we walked a few blocks down to a Chinese restaurant and had a bite to eat. Its around 12:00 and we finish up eating and head on over to 1015. Luckily the guest list works there. We get in and much to my dismay its not crowded. I expected Doc Martin to have filled the place. When we get in Behrouz is spinning in the main room. He as always is great. We spend an hour or so there and then head up stairs. Its not often I spend the whole night dancing. Usually I need to sit and rest a bit here and there. But for some reason the night was just vibing like crazy. I never sat once. I was just into the music and dancing like there was no tomorrow. come 6:00 am I was like, " why is the music stopping?" Then I realized it was closing time. I packed up the car, drove back to Salinas to which I walk in about 10 minutes before my son wakes only to have time to shower. Then its daddy, daddy, and Im doing the father thing. At 4:00 PM I back up my son, with much reluctance and begin my journey up to Sacramento to drop him off with his Mom. I say my good byes until next weekend and begin my drive back to Salinas. Once Im back in Salinas, dead tired. I have some dinner, chat with my aunt then crawl into bed. I awoke this morning to feel refreshed and ready to go for the week. Thank you to everyone who I came into contact with this weekend. Bobby, Andy W, Scott, Terry, Johnr, Eric, and anyone else who my blank mind cant think of right now. hahaha. And I apologize to the list for the length of this thread. This is the abridged version. The full version would have taken weeks. And Im serious when I saw that. There was a lot more drama that I didn't share. I just wanted to share my experiences regarding Honey and Full Moon. Peace and much happiness, M Groove On From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 02:05:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8290 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 02:04:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 8274 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 02:04:55 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 02:04:55 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com (3958) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id dKOTa27693; Mon, 3 May 1999 22:02:45 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 22:02:43 EDT Subject: Re: Once I had a dream... (of DJ Dara!!) To: awallace@u.washington.edu CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk its off of the cd/tape titled FULL CIRCLE by DJ DARA and its TOUGH AT THE TOP by EZ ROLLERS. <3 amber R! dara rocks! he'll be at Bliss2 June 4th in sacramento! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 02:09:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13042 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 02:09:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 13031 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 02:09:26 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 02:09:26 -0000 Received: from SaMiENiTTy@aol.com (3878) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rQFIa20907; Mon, 3 May 1999 22:06:25 -0400 (EDT) From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Message-ID: <266bdeab.245fb021@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 22:06:25 EDT Subject: my views....(Re: LITTLE KIDS AT PARTIES) To: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/3/99 3:00:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu writes: ~ my views...... > > The age thing is often an issue on this list, but this recent thread really > hs me thinking about age limits for parties. I am just about 19 (15 days > til my b-day) so it's easy for me to say that all parties should be 18+... > I mean what do I have to lose? But, I remember what it was like to be 16, > 17... when freedom seemed so close, yet parents and age limits always > seemed to stand between me and having fun. Even now.... my 21st birthdy > seems sooo far away, and there is always some great 21+ event that I have > to miss. (Kung Fu Knowledge anyone?) ~ i am 16 and my freedom still seems far away. i'll always be listening to my parents throughout my life. when they pass, hopefully i have learned enough to make it through the rest. but right now, my parents have a big impact on my life. i listen to everything they say and do what they want me to do. i am their child and they are here to guide me. so, when they say i can't go to a party, then that's that. i don't argue with them, i except it. and when i am older, i'll see why they made the decision they did. > > The thing I realize now that I didn't in high school: eventually it will > be your turn to have your monumental birthday and there will still be great > 18+ and 21+ events going on to celebrate with. Patience is truly > important. Why are we always in such a hurry to be older, better, > somewhere else? We, collectively, have lost the ability to enjoy what we > have, and take comfort in the fact that someday, we will be 18 or 21 and > get to go to those great "once-in-a-lifetime" events. ~ Right now, i am happy being 16. you can't change your age and you certainly you can't speed up time. there are great parties i can't go to and i say the same thing as carly does. "i am 16. everyone was 16 at some point in their life. 18+ and 21+ parties will always be there. i'll have my chance." > > So... little kids at parties. This is truly inappropriate. My first rave > was a huge step into adulthood: A rave is truly an autonomous society. It > is up to the partiers to be completely responsible for themselves. It is > about knowing one's personal limits and acting within those limits. To me: > it was my first experience of complete self-responsiblity. I had friends > with me, but I wasn't expecting them to hold my hands. It was a learning > experience of great worth... just as every party since then has been. I > have learned the power of dancing, of happiness, of communication, of > confidence. I have learned about moderation of substances, the wonders of > being sober, and the tragedies of bad judgement. I have learned to express > myself and to respect myself. ~ once again, i'm 16. i have had experiences that people much older than i am haven't had. they aren't sexual or anything as such, but they are ones i've learned from. whether those experiences or lessons have been in friendship, love, trust, repsect, respect for other, and respect for yourself; everyone lesson has had a great impact on me.....you don't need to be over 18 or 21 to have these experiences/lessons, it's how well you understand and how your perseptive on the world, societ, and life are. > > How can a 7 or 8 yr old or even a 13 or 14 yr old have that type of > experience??? They can't. Sure, they can have fun. They can see a part of > the world they never knew existed. They can see this scene with fresh eyes > and a unique perspective... but they can never see the truth in it. They > have no knowledge of self-limits and of appropriateness of actions. They > see adults: role-models abandoning responsibilites and using drugs and > being free, and they think that is reality. And it is reality, but it > should not be their reality until they are older. > > I don't know if this makes sense, but what I am trying to say is this: > Going to a rave takes a lot of growing up. Kids are growing up too fast as > it is. Why encourage them to lose their innocence? They have the power of > imagination and they have energy and they have happiness: and all of this > without a party. > ~this somewhat makes sense. but everyone has their different views. and when i am older, my views might have changed by then. but right now, what i have written, is how they stand. > I could not have handled a party before last year. I'm glad I didn't try > to. I'm glad i waited until I was able to understand the significance of a > rave. These kids should be given the oppurtunity to see this world, but > not until they can truly understand it. ~ my first real party was on NYE 97-98. i was ready for it and i was 15. some girls/boys might mature faster than others, but i would not haven't been take to a party if i was not ready. the person who took me is one person who has always been there for. she knows me inside and out. that person is my sister. together we had learned lesson of life. and together, she wanted to explore outselves...our personalities....and our sisterly love for one another. > > I am not being elitist... I am trying to save something special in kids... > their innocence. ~ i have the innocence of a 16 year old girl. and yes i have kissed other, but who didn't kiss people when they were 16? as far as innocence goes... i'm right there! > > My opinion: promoters should be responsible about who goes to parties. > I'm not saying their should be age limits: but you can tell a 7 yr old > from a 16 yr old... and 7 yr olds should not be allowed into parties. EVen > all-ages parties need to draw the line somewhere. > ~ or here's a better idea, why don't promoters ask for identification at the door. anyone can get an ID. doesn't have to a state one, but everyone can have some proof. and if the age says under 14 or whatever your limit is, don't let them in. > love, > Carly ~Samantha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 02:12:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15317 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 02:12:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 15309 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 02:12:53 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 02:12:53 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com (8076) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vRCWa04814; Mon, 3 May 1999 22:10:15 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: <93707ae4.245fb107@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 22:10:15 EDT Subject: Re: the weekend review (Hi! and Acid Breaks) To: AlexG1029@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk they did show up, right on time, flux started spinning exactly at one, where the hell were u? jamalski is the only one hwo flaked -ralph From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 02:13:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15710 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 02:13:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 15536 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 02:12:58 -0000 Received: from shell.entic.net (root@209.249.172.242) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 02:12:58 -0000 Received: from nico.sjsu.edu (nico@x130-65-210-22.sjsu.edu [130.65.210.22]) by shell.entic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA02908; Mon, 3 May 1999 19:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 19:13:40 -0700 (PDT) From: n i c o X-Sender: nico@nico.sjsu.edu To: BodhiInSF@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: "hippie" raver and proud of it!!!! In-Reply-To: <6581443f.245fa0e9@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > Yes, Im one of those long hair, vegitarian, natural living, psychadelic > loving, camping/traveling, hemp wearing, kind to everyone hippie ravers. Like > the candy ravers too, I think we add color and personality to parties. So the > next time you want a genuine, great big hug, and lot's of love, find a hippie > raver....like me! =) > Peace, love and {{hugs!}} ---Bodhi > Agreed. We only gain through diversity. : ) ((( l0ve always ))) Nico "I learned Perl on the bus." -Marc Powell nico@entic.net http://www.entic.net/~nico From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 02:22:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22617 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 02:22:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 22599 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 02:22:29 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 02:22:29 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com (8076) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iMCHa03427; Mon, 3 May 1999 22:02:08 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: <719b223b.245faf1f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 22:02:07 EDT Subject: Re: LITTLE KIDS AT PARTIES, was Re: [Fwd: Re: -- sat night's alright]--AllOnE] To: kandykid4@hotmail.com, etraver@ix.netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i think this message is informative, but rather stereotypical..... not all these "little kids" are on drugs, im only 16 and i goto raves sober EVERYTIME, ive never even touched a drug.... i go for the music and dancing, is there something wrong with me going to a place to dance and listen to music, just cuz im young? well, i've been partying since i was like 14 and i think its perfectly fine for me to go n chill, its the same as me being at my friends house with the radio on dancin', u know? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 02:24:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23628 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 02:24:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 23616 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 02:24:52 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 02:24:52 -0000 Received: from AlexG1029@aol.com (8079) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vKSMa20907 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 22:23:23 -0400 (EDT) From: AlexG1029@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 22:23:27 EDT Subject: Re: the weekend review (Hi! and Acid Breaks) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk what room were they in? i guess i must be trippin....i went to the "jungle room" at around 1:30 and joshua jacob was still spinnin there (or was he?) and when i went there agiain around 2:30 Ghostribe was there....or so i think were they in the room right by the front doors? cuz thats where i was lookin for them and never found em i was sober too! PeAcE OuT alEx =.) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 02:42:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3794 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 02:42:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 3785 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 02:42:16 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 02:42:16 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com (8076) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iLIYa07562; Mon, 3 May 1999 22:11:03 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 22:11:04 EDT Subject: Re: jungle-life & bass kru To: poeie@hotmail.com, raver_hp@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk have u ever actually seen the jungle life crew spin? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 02:52:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7427 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 02:52:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 7393 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 02:52:41 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 02:52:41 -0000 Received: from Ezzm@aol.com (3876) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vUXJa02444 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 22:50:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Ezzm@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 22:50:33 EDT Subject: Fwd: Hi djs anyone? Alias kicks ass To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_b235a9a8.245fba79_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_b235a9a8.245fba79_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_b235a9a8.245fba79_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: Ezzm@aol.com From: Ezzm@aol.com Full-name: Ezzm Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 22:49:29 EDT Subject: Hi djs anyone? Alias kicks ass To: dbpolaris@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 yo peeps, Alias? he was great. the first hour was good, the second hour along with the reaization that it was improvized was great. Many unexpected mixes were pulled off in an unbelievably smooth fashion . All i can say is he is good. da soopa (whoah did you hear that mix?) smak MO --part1_b235a9a8.245fba79_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 03:04:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11952 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 03:04:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 11944 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 03:04:03 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 03:04:03 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (14440) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3HZMa02444; Mon, 3 May 1999 23:01:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <67851165.245fbd1a@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 23:01:46 EDT Subject: Re: *soMe UNBELIEVABLE iShh. To: BreAthNYoO@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That dude is a pimp yo. . . if he can drive, watch you, make a sign, get his panties off, watch the road and do his little thingie. . . then that dude is fuckin talented !!! it's not really something I'd try. . . but, I'm sure it takes lots of practice. . . There used to be some other less talented guy riding through my neighborhood and our schools n all in some convertible (ALREADY naked), stopping and mac'n on all the chicks. . prrrrrrretty interesting huh ? yep. . . HUGZzzzz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 03:34:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23780 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 03:34:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 23766 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 03:34:34 -0000 Received: from mail2.acninc.net (38.201.2.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 03:34:34 -0000 Received: from athens.crosswinds.net (ip248.san-francisco31.ca.pub-ip.psi.net) by mail2.acninc.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.2.1998.10.13.00.06) with ESMTP id <0FB600GC2V4ZA6@mail2.acninc.net> for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Mon, 3 May 1999 23:31:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 20:27:06 -0700 From: Anton Subject: Skillz Pawty!?!? To: SF Raves Message-id: <372E6909.4A6D9AB3@athens.crosswinds.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Who Knowz bout tha skillz pawty friday at Golden Gate Park??? pleeeease let me in on ANY info anyone knows... i HELLUV wanna go!! ^_^ Luvz, Panduh Boi ( anton ) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 03:51:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2622 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 03:51:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 2614 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 03:51:29 -0000 Received: from law-f196.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.106) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 03:51:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 46415 invoked by uid 0); 4 May 1999 03:51:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19990504035102.46414.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 170.20.137.132 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 03 May 1999 20:51:02 PDT X-Originating-IP: [170.20.137.132] From: "Alknod !" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: DJ Alex Van Duyn's Trip!(really long!) Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 20:51:02 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello my friends of SFR how is your day going? I am still physically and mentally high from the events that unfolded before me last weekend, yet I am totally sober! Here is the story so sit back relax and enjoy the rollercoaster ride of my life! First, don’t call me Dalen anymore, I will simply referr to myself as Alex Van Duyn, my real name, it avoids an awfull lot of confusion not to mention the feedback I got was not all that positive, so DJ name tba if anything comes up that is better than the name I already have! I helped to create 2 parties this weekend, well, a room for the second party, that was the chill room for Acid Breaks 3, did anyone here on the list visit that room? Well, all the sound gear was mine and I spun from 2-4am, more on that later. The first party was Lunar Enlightenment and when it got going, at about 1am or so, it was sooo good. I also provided all the sound gear for that party too. This is already known to most of you as I already posted my excitement about the event. Well, the first problem of the night was the fact that the electric generator that was supplied to the event got stolen. This did not stop us, we went to a hardware store that was open till midnight and I bought an electric generator, yep I said bought, this is how much I believe in the music and the scene. Enough to risk financial defecite in order that the show goes on, I was not ready to give up the night! So, we get the generator to the cite and the vibe is incredible, everyone is dancing, or wandering around, checking the place out, its a little cold but that doesn’t stop the average raver from doing what they like doing best, dancing with the people they love. At about 4am or 5am, I’m not sure because I was really tired at that time, somone got more than a little ill and needed a ride to the parking lot, since my car was right there we dicided to drive this individual in need up, it was a long walk from the party to the car lot! Now this particular space was not the safest place to be driving a car, so one careless move could end someone up in a deep ditch, I made that careless move! DOH! I freaked a little, well, maybe more than a little, I got myself soo stuck that even my 4x4 traction could not even get me out. That part of my weekend was probably the lowest point in my life so far. Maybe it was the aspect that one could pay dearly for that kind of mistake but when something like that happens the only thing that helps is the people around you. Especially Nick, he really helped me work through it all, but the worst did not happen, thank the forces that may be, AAA helped a ton, thanks to that courageous truck driver, he went above and beyond the call of duty, and to the ravers who tried so valiantly to push my truck out of the ditch. It all helped soo much, more reasons why I love this scene, when tradgedy strikes, peeps are willing to help at anytime. I would name everyone who helped here but I should try to keep this post to a resonable length. Needless to say, I did not get to spin, after getting the truck free at about 8:30a or so you can understand why. This little setback did not discourage me from going to Acid Breaks, it propelled me towrds it, for this would be the needed lift for my burntout spirits! One good note, I was able to return the generator for a full refund! YEA! So, after only 3 hours of sleep, I set out once more towards my destiney, the chill room at Acid Breaks 3. They were planning on setting up a cd player before I was contacted by Vlad so that a real space could be created. Another big thank you to Vlad for letting me shine for a night. I took my time in setting up, after all, I got there at 4:30pm to do so, it’s soo much nicer to have time for the details, needless to say, my system put out the right amount of sound for that smallish room. The guys from extreme audio were there, another great thing as they let me warm up their huge system and Moda got to listen to some of my first mixes ever! Moda I must say is one of the best sources for information in the scene than I have ever known. I hope that we keep in contact and as he already knows, I think I have chosen my DJ name, unless you have something from your stockpile that might be more suiting please drop me a line. I was also happy to find out that my roommates were able to make it out for my first ever public session! Now everything is set, the stars were in alignment, I was tired off my ass but all the tension, all the worry was soon to depart! Here it is, the moment where all my energy Djing energy had been focusing onto, and I had to follow up Mook who btw played a damn good trance set, he really fired up the room for me. And it was great seeing Stephanie there, you always but a smile on my face! So, with the crowd all primed and ready, it was my turn at the decks I knew soo well, good thing I got to spin on familiar territory, that helps quite a bit! I played my first track, from Phuture Wax, what a build up that was, and instantly I had the crowd screeming! Wow, for that fact, so was I! And since I was spinning a 2 hour set, I decided to paly out all the records and mix the ends, this proved to be the best possible solution, although I did not really need to do so, I had enough music, but what this really allowed me to do was return the massive amounts of energy that the crowd was giving me. I danced my ass off, then mixed then danced. The crowd loved it, well, the once in the front at least! Somone, at some point early one, placed a disco biscuit on my record, I flicked it off before I even knew what it was. Sorry to that person who did that but I was soo focused on getting the mix in that I did not register it untill after I had done it! But here is the amazing part, I didn’t even need it, I was soo high off of the energy of the crowd that nothing prefabricated could ever take its place. I was soo sober that night yet jazed and energized by what I was doing, I did not want to augment that feeling in anyway shape or form, and for that, I turned down countless offers of enhancments all night long through to the afternoon and beyond. I don’t think drugs have any part of my life anymore, I simply have outgrown them, and besides, Djing is a much better high than I have ever known! I’m still smiling! So after being blasted with soo much positive energy for 2 hours straight, boy time flies when your having fun, the next Dj came on. Dj prophet I believe and he complimented my mixing! WOW a prop from another DJ, can my night get any better than this? Needless to say we all hung around for a little after party in the same room till about 9:30am or so, I got spin an extra set despite the requests for house music, I had none sorry, trance only here, but I found some pretty mellow tracks to throw out there, I think the peeps were happy to have at least something to listen too. Time to pack the old battle hardened truck up. Amber, a friend of mine who was also totally sober that night, helped me through this part because I offered her a much needed ride home to her house in good ole San Jose. As we were eating breakfast she forwarded on how she felt about my mixing and my tracks and what she said boosted my energy levels through the roof! She said that at one point, some track that I played made her feel like she was and I qote “rolling off of e!” Wow, this day has just totally melted away all the feelings I had from the night before, the bad ones that is! Then my roommate, who puts on raves, well, at least one that I know of, said that I had the 3 prime elements in my mixing, selection, progression(a beginning middle and end) and positive energy! Despite my body being so phsyically deprived of energy, that comment took me even higher, and he’s pretty picky about Djs! Finally sleep befell me at 1pm on Sunday after only 3 full hours of sleep in 50 hours straight! My amazing weekend was at an end but yet? As a result of dedication the scene and the emazing stunts that were created in order that Lunar Enlightenment be in creation I have officially become a member of NBC known as the North Bay Collective. I thank Ornete and Nick and Trevor and Whitney and Ross and eveyone elese whos names elude me for the moment for giving me the opportunity to shine and provide the many smiling faces and good memories that I was able to be a major part of this last weekend. And Vlad who has provided me with the start I needed to be sure I was doing the right thing for without that, I would still be wondering weather I was good enough for the San Francisco scene. And judging by the reaction from all present at Acid Breaks, I guess I am, thanks to the peeps who matter the most, the ones who provide the energy for the Djs, the ravers, who made me feel like I was the biggest raver of them all for a couple of hours on one Saturday night! Thank you once more! Transcendance has been completed, and look for me in future NBC events, I will be there wearing the biggest smile you have ever scene! Dj Alex Van Duyn. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 04:02:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6536 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 04:02:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 6527 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 04:02:14 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 04:02:14 -0000 Received: from XRictusx@aol.com (14412) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id sJXBa24272; Tue, 4 May 1999 00:01:09 -0400 (EDT) From: XRictusx@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 00:01:09 EDT Subject: Re: Skillz Pawty!?!? To: EVILNEMO@athens.crosswinds.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well kiddies, I know I'm looking forward to this, it's gonna kick off my b-day partying hee hee IT's from 1-6pm in the Golden gate park bandshell Djs DYLOOT!!!!!!!!! Tom Slik Radley Mars Mystre info lines: 415.437.4460 510.869.4601 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 04:05:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8391 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 04:05:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 8345 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 04:05:10 -0000 Received: from hipmail4.gohip.com (209.48.69.238) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 04:05:10 -0000 Received: œby hipmail4.gohip.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with hipmail1.gohip.com id UAA01106; Mon, 3 May 1999 20:04:46 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 20:04:46 -0700 Message-Id: <199905040304.UAA01106@hipmail4.gohip.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.103 (Entity 4.115) Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "stephanie bitters" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: [Fwd: JUNGLE LIFE CREW] Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >From: stephee@raveworld.net >Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 16:14:38 >Attachments: >Subject: JUNGLE LIFE CREW > >ok ok i was really perplexed when i read a post about JL Crew that stated that >it took 6 or 7 guys to do the job of one guy. WHAT?? i am assuming that this >person is not informed on what the jungle life crew actaully does. there is no >way one person could do what this crew does. how could one person make phat >beats, mix records, scratch, recite spoken word,and more at once?? every person > >that composes the crew has skills that make up a dope as performance. if you >are curious what the crew is all about, don't get your info form a mailing list >go check them out or visit their web site at www.jungle-life.com. >peace, >sb ------------------------------------------------------------ Get the coolest email address on the web! Visit http://www.raveworld.net today! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 04:12:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11723 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 04:12:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 11715 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 04:12:49 -0000 Received: from hipmail4.gohip.com (209.48.69.238) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 04:12:49 -0000 Received: œby hipmail4.gohip.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with hipmail1.gohip.com id UAA02259; Mon, 3 May 1999 20:12:23 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 20:12:23 -0700 Message-Id: <199905040312.UAA02259@hipmail4.gohip.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.103 (Entity 4.115) Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "stephanie bitters" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: rumors must die Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok everybody here is something i copied and pasted from a junglelife crew family member. just so everyone has the info. PEACE! sb __________________________________ you might want to post to the discussion that you spoke with me and I said that we are not BATTLING with them but rather we are gonna do a HUGE mix session with them. This is not a JLC vs. BassKru thing! This is just 2 crews getting together to throw down a FAT show.Thanks for the info Steph.Luv.Shimone ------------------------------------------------------------ Get the coolest email address on the web! Visit http://www.raveworld.net today! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 04:18:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15349 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 04:18:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 15341 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 04:18:31 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 04:18:31 -0000 Received: from BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com (394) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vMMYa20661 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 00:17:44 -0400 (EDT) From: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com Message-ID: <861f221a.245fcee6@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 00:17:42 EDT Subject: Formula: Jungle Massive?!? To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk So who knows what's up for this party? Is it still happening? I saw the lineup for that party on the flyer and fucking died!!!! 187, Soulslinger and ODI all in the same room...WHOA!!! That is too much! Who knows the info on "general location" if not the actual place? Who can confirm that this is still happening because I have not seen it on the SFR calendar. That lineup is the best I've seen in damn I don't know how long. SOMEONE GIMME ACCURATE INFO! -=~*LaUrE@*~=- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 04:25:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18053 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 04:25:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 17958 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 04:24:55 -0000 Received: from f175.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.61) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 04:24:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 81931 invoked by uid 0); 4 May 1999 04:32:30 -0000 Message-ID: <19990504043230.81930.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.85.166.74 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 03 May 1999 21:32:29 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.85.166.74] From: "Wayne Radinsky" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: FW: NRR: (weird) (really gross) Pigeon droppings Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 21:32:29 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk If you're like, squeamish, you might want to skip this forward and read something else. WAYNErad -- Get paid to watch ads: http://alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=ALZ893 -- > -----Original Message----- >From: Mark O'Shea Sent: Montag, 3. Mai 1999 15:58 >Posted To: SOC Weirdness >Conversation: Flying Rats >Subject: Flying Rats > > > <<...>> > MORTON GROVE, IL - On Christmas Eve, 1997, Maurice Stevedore, >51, of > > Morton > > Grove, IL, drank four gallons of pigeon droppings in just over nine >hours, > > setting an officially recognized U.S. record. > > "Technically speaking, the record could have been set at 3.8 gallons," > > Stevedore claims, referring to the unrecognized mark of 3.79 gallons > > consumed in under 12 hours by 55-year old Niles, IL, resident Joey > > Memnitz. "But why make it easier for [Memnitz to beat my record]? > > Four's a nice round number. And once you've drank 3.8 gallons of pigeon > > crap, what's .2 more?" > > In conjunction with setting the mark, Stevedore was awarded $800 from > > Long Island restauranteur Frank Sutrier as a part of a long-running > > feud involving Sutrier, Stevedore, and Memnitz. > > > Last summer, distraught at the amount of pigeon droppings on his >balcony, > > Sutrier jokingly told the clientele at Barney Greensleeves' deli that >he'd > > dare anybody to lick the balcony clean for $800 cash. > > To his surprise, not one, but two patrons-old chums since high school - > > accepted the challenge. > > > The "record setting" situation came to the fore when, after licking > > Sutrier's balcony clean, Stevedore and Memnitz got into an argument > > overwho had licked more, and therefore, how the money should be divided. > > > "They got into this discussion over who could eat more of the [expletive > > deleted]," Sutrier says. "I was thinking, this could be interesting. So >I > > told them, hey, whoever can swallow the most will get another $800. >That > > night Memnitz drank 1.5 gallons, which sort of started this feud." > > When asked about the U.S. record being established, Sutrier shakes his > > head. "I thought 1.5 was excessive. It's not even easy to scrape up 1.5 > > gallons of pigeon crap in a day. For four, you really gotta know where > > to go, and bring a raincoat," Sutrier laughs. "But I'll keep paying 'em > > as long as they keep doing it. I gotta admit I get a perverse enjoyment > > out of it." > > > He better. > > One organization that wants nothing to do with this feud is Guinness, > > proprietors of The Guinness Museum & Book of World Records. > > > "We don't bother with 'records' like these," a Guinness correspondent > > stated. "Most of our records concerning obscene consumption have been > > stricken [from the book]. Guinness considers them as frivolous as they >are > > dangerous." > > The U.S. Bureau of Vital Statistics, who recognized the 'record', has a > > more open take on the issue. > > > "If it can be legally recorded and proved, we'll recognize it," Reba > > Stuckey, a bureau analyst, stated. "Believe it or not, we have on record > > the > > world mark for 'Aviary Excrement Consumption'. There's a pretty good >story > > with it too. The record was setin Ponce, Puerto Rico, in 1938. A farmer > > named Alberto Gutierrez, enraged that someone had bedded his unwed > > daughter, > > found the offender - Remy Guzman - and convinced Guzman to eat 6 gallons > > of > > some kind of birddroppings as compensation for the crime. It turns out > > that > > the 126 lb. Guzman died after ingesting 5.1 gallons of it." > > "I can see that happening," Stevedore states. "I've learned to eat a lot > > of > > bread and cane sugar before each go at it. Also drink a lot of water." > > The > > experienced Stevedore has an after-game plan as well. "Four to five >hours > > of > > vomiting," he claims. > > "Lots of people laugh when they hear about these two old guys eating >bird > > crap," Stevedore concludes. "A lot of people don't even believe it. But >we > > wouldn't be doing this if we didn't want to. It's a matter of pride for > > us." > > > Joey Memnitz could not be reached for comment, but reportedly is not at > > this > > time interested in breaking Stevedore's record. > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 04:29:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21557 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 04:29:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 21549 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 04:29:25 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 04:29:25 -0000 Received: from Macias20@aol.com (8080) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vXORa03425; Tue, 4 May 1999 00:28:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Macias20@aol.com Message-ID: <9d4b5ced.245fd165@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 00:28:21 EDT Subject: Re: LITTLE KIDS AT PARTIES, was Re: [Fwd: Re: -- sat night'salright]--AllOnE] To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I agree.. the message was a little stereotypical.. i also started ravin in LA at valley parties when i was 14... and didn't touch the drugs untill about 17...they were just not intresting to me.. I think it's sad that all of those E dealers u see at raves won't think twice about selling to little kids just to make the $20 and not even care about the after-effects it has on them.. to me, at that age..it wasn't even about the E.. it was the musik and the vibe..(I thank my big bro fer teaching me the responsible way to partE).. and i think some kids forget that's what they're there for.....well, im out.. peace... Valerie AKA sparkles From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 04:29:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22027 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 04:29:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 21867 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 04:29:34 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 04:29:34 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (527) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vGOUa16058; Tue, 4 May 1999 00:28:39 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <3d482cd4.245fd176@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 00:28:38 EDT Subject: Re: my views....(Re: LITTLE KIDS AT PARTIES) To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk whoo hoo! go samantha!!! i back you up 100%. i know plenty of 18-21 year olds closely who are not nearly as mature as me or many other young kids i know. and it's not always a matter of what kind of experiences you've had, it's the way you learn from them and use the knowledge. a 19 year old can have very moving and incredible experiences/mistakes tons of times but if he/she does not learn properly from them or reallt take it to heart, there is no difference made. and lets say a 16 year old went through the same thing just once, they may learn from it that first time. sure there are also PLENTY of ignorant, immature young teenagers too, but not all of them are.i think it's great to have young kids in the scene. they can add alot and it can be a really incredible environment for them to learn( although it can have the opposite effect as well). a freind of mine for example, was very homophobic. since he started raving, he has become SO accepting. it's amazing how much he has matured in just the few months he has been going to parties. so please let's not always judge by age, it's just a #. alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 05:04:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1967 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 05:04:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 1956 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 05:04:08 -0000 Received: from law-f107.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.170) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 05:04:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 78052 invoked by uid 0); 4 May 1999 05:03:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19990504050341.78051.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 170.20.137.132 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 03 May 1999 22:03:41 PDT X-Originating-IP: [170.20.137.132] From: "Alknod !" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re:DJ Alex Van Duyns Trip! CorrectionsDOH Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 22:03:41 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Please remind me to use the spell check feature when ever possible, when I said "emazing" course I meant Amazing, that was a pure typo on my part, did not mean what you might have thought it meant if you thought that at all. And seen is not spelled scene although it does sound the same and sort of worked for this post but I felt a correction was needed anyway! Dj Alex Van Duyn From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 05:10:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3721 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 05:10:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 3713 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 05:10:11 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 05:10:11 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com (540) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vYJMa27692 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 01:09:25 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 01:09:25 EDT Subject: Re: DJ Alex Van Duyn's Trip!(really long!) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk o my gawd. this letter was so inspirational! i dont dj but i make music and i always wonder what someone else would think of my music. will they be energized or bored out of their minds? right now im leanin on bored but ive only had the groove box for what...4 months now? i have learning time. its so good to hear a long story like that! totally rewarding! i always wondered how a dj feels bein up there with all this pure happiness flowing out and in around him/her. Phew maybe some day ill be doin a live performance who knows *sigh* thanks for the great post ALEX!!!!!! -aaron (orion From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 05:12:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5165 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 05:12:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 4969 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 05:11:59 -0000 Received: from wya-oe15.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.80) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 05:11:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 69350 invoked by uid 0); 4 May 1999 05:12:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19990504051240.69349.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.72.192.194 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 03 May 1999 22:12:40 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.72.192.194] From: "David Ramirez" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: JUNGLE LIFE CREW] Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 22:12:40 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk thas what i'm sayin.. probly neva seen jungle-life in action.. david.. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "stephanie bitters" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: [Fwd: JUNGLE LIFE CREW] Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 20:04:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 From sfraves-owner-raver_hp Mon May 03 21:05:28 1999 Received: from [209.133.83.16] by hotmail.com (1.5) with SMTP id MHotMailB8F7BD0800CFD1B9832CD185531013730; Mon May 03 21:05:28 1999 Received: (qmail 8391 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 04:05:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 8345 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 04:05:10 -0000 Received: from hipmail4.gohip.com (209.48.69.238) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 04:05:10 -0000 Received:œby hipmail4.gohip.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with hipmail1.gohip.com id UAA01106;Mon, 3 May 1999 20:04:46 -0700 Message-Id: <199905040304.UAA01106@hipmail4.gohip.com> X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.103 (Entity 4.115) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >From: stephee@raveworld.net >Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 16:14:38 >Attachments: >Subject: JUNGLE LIFE CREW > >ok ok i was really perplexed when i read a post about JL Crew that stated that >it took 6 or 7 guys to do the job of one guy. WHAT?? i am assuming that this >person is not informed on what the jungle life crew actaully does. there is no >way one person could do what this crew does. how could one person make phat >beats, mix records, scratch, recite spoken word,and more at once?? every person > >that composes the crew has skills that make up a dope as performance. if you >are curious what the crew is all about, don't get your info form a mailing list >go check them out or visit their web site at www.jungle-life.com. >peace, >sb ------------------------------------------------------------ Get the coolest email address on the web! Visit http://www.raveworld.net today! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 05:13:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6210 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 05:13:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 6197 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 05:13:43 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 05:13:43 -0000 Received: from CandEKid60@aol.com (8053) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rMEBa24050; Tue, 4 May 1999 01:12:20 -0400 (EDT) From: CandEKid60@aol.com Message-ID: <782a4412.245fdbb3@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 01:12:19 EDT Subject: Re: a question for VORG To: binary_fineboy@iname.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok well it took me a while to decide whether or not i wanted to post a response to the VORG party on sfr or not..because lately it seems like no one has anything good or constructive to say about parties...alot of people have just been complaining about things like the tickets ..the space ..the amounts of people in the place..the new "ravers" that have entered the scene..the promoters..whatever..and everyone (including the promoters) are pointing fingers at eachother trying to blame someone for a party that went wrong...well im sorry everyone but no ones perfect...i think the HI party is a perfect example of that ...i was helping at the door on friday night and i can say from the very start that party was a mess...anything and everything went wrong..first off..although it was a beautiful location..it was not a place to throw a party...the owner was basically a bitch but at the same time probably had no idea what she was gettin herself into...there were power problems..dj problems..security problems..people were using other peoples ticket stubs and tryin to get in..people were openly ignoring the no smoking signs. the toilets overflowed...people got stuck outside for 30min because the lobby was too crowded with people tryin to get in..someone hit the owner when she asked them to put out their ciggarette..c'mon now?? what good did that do? and finally the fake tickets..well i agree..they should have made better tickets..but they didnt...they tried various methods of avoiding the fakes getting is..but some did..and the week of may 10 there will be full refunds..im trying to share this with all of u so that u realize that this wasnt just the promoters fault or the owners fault or even the party kids fault..sometimes things happen..but how can u say u will never support them again?? i can think of at least 4-5 parties lately where a presale didnt guarantee u into the party..beautiful people?? popsicle?? just to name a few..but i havent lost faith in their collectives..it takes alot to throw a party..and these guys really tried to make this a fun party for the people who attended..and im sorry to those of u who didnt get in..and im sorry everyone had to leave at 230...but i think everyone needs to learn from this..and not be so harsh toward eachother...i hope to see some of u this weekend... thanks From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 05:15:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7001 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 05:15:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 6993 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 05:15:38 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 05:15:38 -0000 Received: from CandEKid60@aol.com (8053) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vINMa13120 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 01:14:46 -0400 (EDT) From: CandEKid60@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 01:14:46 EDT Subject: Fwd: a question for VORG To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_f0ef1a0f.245fdc46_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_f0ef1a0f.245fdc46_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_f0ef1a0f.245fdc46_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: CandEKid60@aol.com From: CandEKid60@aol.com Full-name: CandEKid60 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 01:12:19 EDT Subject: Re: a question for VORG To: binary_fineboy@iname.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 ok well it took me a while to decide whether or not i wanted to post a response to the VORG party on sfr or not..because lately it seems like no one has anything good or constructive to say about parties...alot of people have just been complaining about things like the tickets ..the space ..the amounts of people in the place..the new "ravers" that have entered the scene..the promoters..whatever..and everyone (including the promoters) are pointing fingers at eachother trying to blame someone for a party that went wrong...well im sorry everyone but no ones perfect...i think the HI party is a perfect example of that ...i was helping at the door on friday night and i can say from the very start that party was a mess...anything and everything went wrong..first off..although it was a beautiful location..it was not a place to throw a party...the owner was basically a bitch but at the same time probably had no idea what she was gettin herself into...there were power problems..dj problems..security problems..people were using other peoples ticket stubs and tryin to get in..people were openly ignoring the no smoking signs. the toilets overflowed...people got stuck outside for 30min because the lobby was too crowded with people tryin to get in..someone hit the owner when she asked them to put out their ciggarette..c'mon now?? what good did that do? and finally the fake tickets..well i agree..they should have made better tickets..but they didnt...they tried various methods of avoiding the fakes getting is..but some did..and the week of may 10 there will be full refunds..im trying to share this with all of u so that u realize that this wasnt just the promoters fault or the owners fault or even the party kids fault..sometimes things happen..but how can u say u will never support them again?? i can think of at least 4-5 parties lately where a presale didnt guarantee u into the party..beautiful people?? popsicle?? just to name a few..but i havent lost faith in their collectives..it takes alot to throw a party..and these guys really tried to make this a fun party for the people who attended..and im sorry to those of u who didnt get in..and im sorry everyone had to leave at 230...but i think everyone needs to learn from this..and not be so harsh toward eachother...i hope to see some of u this weekend... thanks --part1_f0ef1a0f.245fdc46_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 05:25:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9608 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 05:25:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 9600 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 05:25:40 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 05:25:40 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (14440) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3OHLa04814 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 01:24:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 01:24:50 EDT Subject: Full moon, marijuana march, disco bisquits. . . through my warped old eyes. . . To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This was just an action packed weekend. . . filled with exciting ooooh and aaahhhs, it has definately been more fun than a barrel of monkeys. . . Whoever went to that full moon party fri was immediately greeted by a wonderful night, though I cannot recall the sight of the stars when i first arrived, when I left the sky was blue, and you could almost see each and every star in the galaxy. . . it was actually quite breathtaking, it's a rare moment to be on the beach, feet from the water and the break of the waves, and to feel the stillness of the air around you, barely a hint of wind. . . it was gorgeous. There were actually two areas, I mostly roamed about the larger one, dancing my achy bones, fighting with every grain of sand as I tried to move my legs and feet. It was great. Beautiful fires, nice people, and a great night made this night just a night I did not want to leave. But I had to. Me and hppyxtc were there together with a couple other friends and we had to get up early and get to the marijuana march. We left the beach, in santa cruz around 4 and I personally got home about 6 or so, put "If looks could kill" in the vcr, and passed out on the bed before mike got off the plane. At 7am I woke up, (or just re opened my eyes), I got ready in a flash, drove like speedracer over to my friendly neighborhood java city (great people there too, every single morning) get my 5 espresso white mocha, dump a ton of sugar into it, then blast out of the place like a bat outta hell yelling bye bye to jose, that chick, and that other chick. Cool i thought, right on time, so I cruised over to heather doggy doggs house and guess what, it's like seven fifty 2, and she's not awake yet. . . geez. . . .ok, so like an hour later (give or take 15 mins), were back out on the streets again and to the march in un plaze sf, ca. . We got to sf in like 30 mins, wasted like another hour circling the damn plaza cuz like there were no damn left hand turnable streets anywhere, but eventually, we just parked like 5 blocks away and walked. The march was huge. The police were nice about it, the cheif strolled through with julia, one of the main chicks behind this sf march, and the police were actually ordered to NOT make any marijuana related arrests (NO SHIT). There was pot everywhere, fat ass trance beats pointing towards market, and speakers, displays, and other things on the other side. It was cool, there was this interesting heroin addict old lady who was like all trying to dance sexy with me, that was definately the hightlight of my day : ) But of course there were homeless people, they were welcome too, I smoked out a few of these guys and lots of other people just cuz. . . I met a ton of groovy people and I didn't really see anyone I knew except for my buddy Kev dawg and J-bo. I danced most of the time I wasn't trying to help with whatever. It was a nice VERY VERY windy day in the city, I got burnt, sunburnt, and worn out. Everyone was nice to everyone, even the cops were cool. . . it is truly a day to be remembered. The worst part though, was after, when I had to leave, I must have walked like 5 or 6 damn miles before I figured out where I parked my damn car. up and down all the streets, damn it took me forever. I finally found it though. . . like how do you spell R.E.L.I.E.F. . . . answer: Finding your car ! So it was off to my home, to get my bootie ready cuz I wanted to go dancing sat night at disco bisquick or whatever. I was really suprised. I guess with all the parties down in the town, not too many people wanted to drive to petaluma (wussies). It wasn't crowded at all, it was a groovy fun locale, and the music was pretty fat. I don't remember much about any of it but I do remember gianni's set (good job bro). There were't a ton of people dancing and I felt like a stranger or something for some reason (is 2nd and crackson & homebase home to me??? Scary ). Then something really really really horrible happened. . . but I'll talk about that in my next post. . . All in all it was definately an action packed weekend. Lots of fun, excitement, drama, danger, and sadness. . . good thing I have super human powers or I'd probably be like some kind of straw/vanilla milkshake looking stuff in a puddle on the floor. . . You know how it goes. . . HUGZzzzz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 05:56:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24699 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 05:56:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 24678 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 05:56:13 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 05:56:13 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (14440) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3TIPa02445 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 01:55:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <922a0479.245fe5db@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 01:55:39 EDT Subject: Totally RR: Drug awareness/education, what will come to our scene ??? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Sunday morning about 4 am, a friend of mine passed out on the dancefloor of the disco bisquits party. about half an hour later she was in the ER. She had no heart beat, and a faint pulse (if that makes any sense), she didn't respond to pain, sounds, light, anything. . . she was in a coma. Why was this 16 year old girl in a coma ? Because she didn't know,. . . She's an intelligent girl, a bit rebellious (if you can believe a 16 year old being rebellious) and that night she wasn't really doing anything diffirent. When she got to the party, she took half a hit of e. . . not bad you think. . . cool, later she dropped some acid, no prob you say. . . a little while later she drank some peppermint schnopps. . . getting a little perved you say. . . but then this guy who she and her friend were talking to gave her a taste of this "liquid E" stuff. Now I know and you probably know what this stuff was, but she didn't. About 15-20 mins later, she was unconcious. Now no one ever told this young lady anything about anything called liquid e. I've never heard of it, I've never seen it, it's possible I'm sure to make it, but I've also seen people mix like coc and heroin, and mescaline, and speed in a pill and call it e. And she never knew that even the slightest amount af alcohol, and the slightest amount of GHB, could possibly kill her. Was this event avoidable ? Will this happen again ? Me and her boyfriend and my friend and her guy waited in the IC waiting room with her mother and mother's boyfriend. You just can't realize how things like this hurt soooo many people until you see the pain it causes each and every friend, relative, even people who barely know someone in a situation like this. Of course since the mother didn't know me, she looked at me (not in a nice way) when we showed up. A few hours later, around 10 or 11, she began to regain conciousness. Now I don't know how well she is to this moment, but I'm sure she has no idea where she was lastnight, she's probably forgotten other things, and probably done irreversible damage to herself. Nothing serious, but unnecessary nonetheless. Now I've been thinking. Some people are into this sober raving thing. Now I'm not the portrait of a sober raver or anything, though I'm not un-sober all of the time either. But I totally feel that it would actually be a possibility to do what we can to educate our community (raver world) about the things they know little ort nothing of. With all of these younger and younger people coming out along with all of these new and exotic drugs, do you think that thay're going to automatically know that they shouldn't do this, or mix this with this, or whatever. I'm probably going to kinda continue with my not quite started yet raver handbook thing and gather up all the info on drugs and such in the scene as possible. Now I would actually like to eventually print hundreds and hundreds of copies of these little books and have booths at parties where we can have info on drugs, other things, and raver handbooks (or whatever they would be called). Free of charge of course. I'd deal with the printing part, and I'm not totlally committed yet, but I'm getting closer and closer. (I'm a busy guy). But please everyone, in the meantime, everyone please be responsible and educate yourself and your friends, because honestly. . . I love each and every one of you who's words I've read, faces I've seen, voices I've heard or even just heard the name of. . . I care for you all even without really knowing you because everyone is a person. . . everyone deserves their life, some people blow it, and have to start over again, but the sweet ones are supposed to last the longest, and the sours just dissolve away. . . I'de really like to hear some people's ideas on this. . . Take care all !!! HUGZzzzz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 06:02:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27374 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 06:02:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 27365 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 06:02:52 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 06:02:52 -0000 Received: from Kalika1196@aol.com (8019) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNTDa20904; Tue, 4 May 1999 02:02:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Kalika1196@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 02:02:02 EDT Subject: Re: Totally RR: Drug awareness/education, what will come to our scene??? To: Aryck46@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i would like to say that i think these "raver handbooks" are a great idea. i remember a line of posts on sfr not too long ago about having drug information booths at raves, i think that is a good idea also. no matter how many sober ravers there are, you have to admit that drugs are apart of the rave scene, its a part of almost every scene, so i think that as ravers we should take the responcibility to learn and teach all about the drugs that are being taken. so i'd like to say that if you need any help with these "raver handbooks" im all up for it! peace, love, and vapor rub, trisha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 06:20:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4214 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 06:19:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 4153 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 06:19:35 -0000 Received: from shell.entic.net (root@209.249.172.242) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 06:19:35 -0000 Received: from nico.sjsu.edu (nico@x130-65-210-22.sjsu.edu [130.65.210.22]) by shell.entic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA04735 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 23:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 23:20:23 -0700 (PDT) From: n i c o X-Sender: nico@nico.sjsu.edu To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Totally RR: Drug awareness/education, what will come to our scene??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 4 May 1999 Kalika1196@aol.com wrote: > i would like to say that i think these "raver handbooks" are a great idea. i > remember a line of posts on sfr not too long ago about having drug > information booths at raves, i think that is a good idea also. no matter how > many sober ravers there are, you have to admit that drugs are apart of the > rave scene, its a part of almost every scene, so i think that as ravers we > should take the responcibility to learn and teach all about the drugs that > are being taken. so i'd like to say that if you need any help with these > "raver handbooks" im all up for it! > Drug information booths at raves. Hrm, maybe we should perpetuate the stereotype a little further and have drugs at that booth. ; ) And similar to that way of thinking if the distribution of this kind of literature were to be done, it should be conducted in a VERY discrete manner. Maybe even on request only. But "raver handbook" is a bad title. Just Say Know is probably the best alternative because it ... seems ... traditional. I dunno, I think a lot of effort would be saved if someone looked for an old copy of Just Say Know and made a run to Kinko's. I'm sure you could get someone to fund this. I wouldn't be opposed to the idea of making a donation. If no one is willing to take charge of this, I'll do it. I don't have that much free time but it would be nice for me to give back. ((( l0ve always ))) Nico nico@entic.net http://www.entic.net/~nico From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 06:25:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8751 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 06:25:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 8741 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 06:25:35 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 06:25:35 -0000 Received: from lal-99-205 (lal-99-205.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.99.205]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA18796; Mon, 3 May 1999 23:25:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905040625.XAA18796@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: anna7@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 23:25:48 -0700 To: chep_plur@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Anna Furniss Subject: Re: To Kids in RENO In-Reply-To: <19990503171851.25120.rocketmail@web206.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, Hope everyone had a good weekend and made it through Monday. Since Reno came up, I was wondering if anyone knew about the scene (if there is one) in the Tahoe/Reno area? I'm gonna be up there for summer and I'd like to go to parties that aren't too far away. I know I can go to Sacramento but I'm wondering if there's anything closer. Thanx & good nite. :-) Luv, Anna At 107:18 AM 5/3/99 -0700, you wrote: >I had a10 time in Reno this weekend. Thanks for all the fun and laughter. I almost felt as if I >was home again in Iowa. You don't really appreciate >the smaller scenes and how much PLUR goes around until >you move. I do miss it a lot and HELL YA I'm going >back to Reno, somebody please let me know when there >is Rave there. Brandon, your the coolest man and I >am so I glad I bumped into, we connect man. Tara, >your the shit girl, keep on raving and I like your >moves. To Tina, your my sweety and always well, but I >want you to take care of yourself and go get checked >out. I don't want to have to go thru another episode >like that, it was scary and I know your stress out, >but go get checked out. We all care for you. > >Peace and lots of PLUR to RENO > >Chep > >=== >In case I don't see you...... > good afternoon.... > good evening.... > good night.... > >chep_plur@yahoo.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 06:30:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10259 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 06:30:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 10250 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 06:29:58 -0000 Received: from south-station-annex.mit.edu (HELO MIT.EDU) (18.72.1.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 06:29:58 -0000 Received: from GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA24046; Tue, 4 May 99 02:29:49 EDT Received: from melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.69.0.45]) by grand-central-station.MIT.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA08254; Tue, 4 May 1999 02:29:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from benchun (BENCHUN.MIT.EDU [18.207.0.48]) by melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id CAA13754; Tue, 4 May 1999 02:29:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990504022214.024f88e0@po8.mit.edu> X-Sender: benchun@po8.mit.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 02:29:24 -0400 To: Aryck46@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: b e n c h u n Subject: Re: Totally RR: Drug awareness/education, what will come to our scene??? In-Reply-To: <922a0479.245fe5db@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i agree that distributing information (handbooks, flyers, etc) is a good way to help people. i also think this is another example of a fundamental principle: "take care of each other". here's what i think is the telling statement: > Now no one ever told this young lady anything about anything called >liquid e. I've never heard of it, I've never seen it, it's possible I'm sure >to make it, but I've also seen people mix like coc and heroin, and mescaline, >and speed in a pill and call it e. And she never knew that even the >slightest amount af alcohol, and the slightest amount of GHB, could possibly >kill her. first, get yourself educated. (not directed at Aryck, but everyone!) read some books like "From Chocolate to Morphine" by Andrew Weil and Winifred Rosen. read from hyperreal.org's archives. read from www.erowid.com. learn about things you don't think you're going to take, just so you know about them. second, and more importantly, share what you know. a lot of you already know the stuff i mentioned above. if you are with inexperienced people, help them learn by teaching them what's dangerous. don't just tell them "do this, don't do this" but take the time to explain as best you can WHY. sorry to hear about this sad event... let's keep in mind that things like this are happening, and take care of each other out there. if you bring new people to parties, try to be responsible for their well-being! try to bring them in to the scene in a healthy way... . . . . . . . benchun@mit.edu http://mdma.mit.edu/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 06:33:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11333 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 06:33:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 11323 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 06:33:18 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 06:33:18 -0000 Received: from Taiida@aol.com (8014) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJEHa16059; Tue, 4 May 1999 02:32:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Taiida@aol.com Message-ID: <2de63030.245fee65@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 02:32:05 EDT Subject: Re: Totally RR: Drug awareness/education, what will come to our scene??? To: Aryck46@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk << Sunday morning about 4 am, a friend of mine passed out on the dancefloor of the disco bisquits party. about half an hour later she was in the ER. She had no heart beat, and a faint pulse (if that makes any sense), she didn't respond to pain, sounds, light, anything. . . she was in a coma. Why was this 16 year old girl in a coma ? Because she didn't know,. . . She's an intelligent girl, a bit rebellious (if you can believe a 16 year old being rebellious) and that night she wasn't really doing anything diffirent. When she got to the party, she took half a hit of e. . . not bad you think. . . cool, later she dropped some acid, no prob you say. . . a little while later she drank some peppermint schnopps. . . getting a little perved you say. . . but then this guy who she and her friend were talking to gave her a taste of this "liquid E" stuff. Now I know and you probably know what this stuff was, but she didn't. About 15-20 mins later, she was unconcious. Now no one ever told this young lady anything about anything called liquid e. I've never heard of it, I've never seen it, it's possible I'm sure to make it, but I've also seen people mix like coc and heroin, and mescaline, and speed in a pill and call it e. And she never knew that even the slightest amount af alcohol, and the slightest amount of GHB, could possibly kill her. Was this event avoidable ? Will this happen again ? Me and her boyfriend and my friend and her guy waited in the IC waiting room with her mother and mother's boyfriend. You just can't realize how things like this hurt soooo many people until you see the pain it causes each and every friend, relative, even people who barely know someone in a situation like this. Of course since the mother didn't know me, she looked at me (not in a nice way) when we showed up. A few hours later, around 10 or 11, she began to regain conciousness. Now I don't know how well she is to this moment, but I'm sure she has no idea where she was lastnight, she's probably forgotten other things, and probably done irreversible damage to herself. Nothing serious, but unnecessary nonetheless. Now I've been thinking. Some people are into this sober raving thing. Now I'm not the portrait of a sober raver or anything, though I'm not un-sober all of the time either. But I totally feel that it would actually be a possibility to do what we can to educate our community (raver world) about the things they know little ort nothing of. With all of these younger and younger people coming out along with all of these new and exotic drugs, do you think that thay're going to automatically know that they shouldn't do this, or mix this with this, or whatever. I'm probably going to kinda continue with my not quite started yet raver handbook thing and gather up all the info on drugs and such in the scene as possible. Now I would actually like to eventually print hundreds and hundreds of copies of these little books and have booths at parties where we can have info on drugs, other things, and raver handbooks (or whatever they would be called). Free of charge of course. I'd deal with the printing part, and I'm not totlally committed yet, but I'm getting closer and closer. (I'm a busy guy). But please everyone, in the meantime, everyone please be responsible and educate yourself and your friends, because honestly. . . I love each and every one of you who's words I've read, faces I've seen, voices I've heard or even just heard the name of. . . I care for you all even without really knowing you because everyone is a person. . . everyone deserves their life, some people blow it, and have to start over again, but the sweet ones are supposed to last the longest, and the sours just dissolve away. . . I'de really like to hear some people's ideas on this. . . >> I started raving 6 months ago and let me just tell ya'll that before this time, when I went out, I always had a hard time meeting people. I used to be really shy and quiet and was always afraid of what other people would do if I went up to them and started talking to them. You raver crowd has totally gotten me out of that fear and I could easily meet people now. I started doing E right from the start to help me loosen up and feel more comfortable and stuff and it worked. The crowd that I grew up with, in the rave scene had taught me who to buy and not buy E from, what drugs to stay away from, and everything. They taught me not to do drugs at every party, so that I can get a feel of the real scene. They hella baby sat me while I was learning all this. And now, when I bring in newby ravers to the scene I just tell them the same thing that was said to me. I know the last time I did anything was when I hippy flipped for the first time at F-8 a couple months ago. I thought that was the worst trip ever. Being sociable with my parents right after a party while still rolling really heavily is somce fuckin scary shit. I never like to go up to talk to my parents right after a party, especially after doing E. Well, being on shrooms as well as E just automatically made me do just that. Luckily, my mom and dad didn't say or notice anything that I know of. And, after that weekend I said that I wasn't going to do any drugs and stay sober for a while. Well, since then, I have been to parties sober and I can have just as much fun sober along with being high. But being sober really keeps you more aware of everything that you and everyone around you do. I love sobriety. I feel so much better of myself now that I'm not into doing so many drugs. I'm able to save some money too. =) Drugs was really starting to take over my life. I mean with buying it every single week. It was starting to hurt me really bad. I'm not saying that I am going to go totally drug-free, but I will plan ahead and know what I will do at parties ONCE in a while. I will mostly stay sober though. EVERYONE!! JUST WATCH OUT FOR EACHOTHER AND BUY FROM PEOPLE YOU OR SOMEONE YOU KNOW KNOWS. IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE REFERENCES. TAKE CARE. LOVE/HUGS, MUUAHHH!!! TAMI =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 06:40:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14094 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 06:40:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 14075 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 06:40:37 -0000 Received: from sanmateo01.pop.internex.net (205.158.3.34) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 06:40:37 -0000 Received: from tiedye (pythagoras.org [205.158.215.178]) by SanMateo01.POP.InterNex.Net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-34792U7500L7500S0) with SMTP id AAB29437; Mon, 3 May 1999 23:40:34 -0700 X-Sender: andy-pythagoras@sanmateo01.pop.internex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 23:42:00 -0700 To: Carly Bourne , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: andy@pythagoras.org (Andrew Nourse) Subject: Re: LITTLE KIDS AT PARTIES In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990503150403.007f9100@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <19990504064032.AAB29437@pythagoras.org> Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think that if I had been able to attend raves at such a young age it would have done me a world of good. The Tie-Dyed Side of the Force From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 06:52:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19610 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 06:52:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 19594 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 06:52:51 -0000 Received: from law-f243.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.208) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 06:52:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 92631 invoked by uid 0); 4 May 1999 06:52:24 -0000 Message-ID: <19990504065224.92630.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 170.20.137.132 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 03 May 1999 23:52:24 PDT X-Originating-IP: [170.20.137.132] From: "Alknod !" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Fine Dune it is! Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 23:52:24 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Seeing as how my last name means of the dunes in dutch, and at the suggestion of some of your replies, I have arrived at a final decesion, subject to no further discussion at all from me on this list ever more etc.... Dj Alex Van Dune Get it got it good! Now I must move on, I've wasted enough energy on this matter already and your precious time, its late, I'm tired and bed is good! Dj Alex Van Dune! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 06:54:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20592 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 06:54:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 20584 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 06:54:31 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 06:54:31 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (8013) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vSOVa24272; Tue, 4 May 1999 02:53:57 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <902b8879.245ff385@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 02:53:57 EDT Subject: Re: Totally RR: Drug awareness/education, what will come to our scene??? To: Aryck46@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is exactly why young people should not be exsposed to parties. Im sad for her. I hope she recovers. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 07:02:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24235 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 07:02:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 24215 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 07:02:36 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 07:02:36 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (8013) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iVLNa20662; Tue, 4 May 1999 03:00:32 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 03:00:31 EDT Subject: Re: Fine Dune it is! To: alknod@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk How about done, as in done? Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 07:11:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26818 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 07:11:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 26806 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 07:11:09 -0000 Received: from law2-f23.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.23) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 07:11:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 63285 invoked by uid 0); 4 May 1999 07:10:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990504071042.63284.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.103.171 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 04 May 1999 00:10:42 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.103.171] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: Aryck46@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Totally RR: Drug awareness/education, what will come to our scene??? Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 00:10:42 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk you see?!?!?! this is what i'm talking about! i'm not saying that it's her fault that she got soooo fucked up, but it could have been avoided. people just need to watch themselves, and watch out for their friends. this is what gives the scene its bad rep. this is just waaaaay to dangerous to take lightly. people---we need to realize that our bodies are fragile and when we fuck around with them that much, it's extremely risky. please please please, be more careful! aryck---how is she doing? i hope that she's alright. love lia From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 07:49:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7389 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 07:49:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 7381 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 07:49:48 -0000 Received: from apocalypse.ocf.berkeley.edu (mlowdrma@128.32.191.249) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 07:49:48 -0000 Received: from localhost (mlowdrma@localhost) by apocalypse.OCF.Berkeley.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA24387; Tue, 4 May 1999 00:49:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 00:49:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "Minh Q. Le" To: Tabitha Hanrion cc: benchun@MIT.EDU, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Best of SFR 4 In-Reply-To: <19990503181018.5197.cpmta@fillmore.criticalpath.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On 3 May 1999, Tabitha Hanrion wrote: > On Fri, 30 April 1999, b e n c h u n wrote: > > > > > hey does anyone know where Minh is right now? > > on some world tour, or something? > > > Just saw Minh a few weeks ago at the Epiphany party. He's doing swell. > Same sweet bitch as always, just like we want him to be! > > > tabitha > > -->AHEM! I take exception to that, it's 'lil Miss Biotch to you carrot-top :) Speaking of world tours, I am in this country for only two more months. That's right, the authorities traced my Cuban cigar smuggling, international drug trafficking, corrupter of virgins ass and they're repatriating me back to Vietnam. I will be leaving June 26 and will have to do a two-year "re-education" tour of duty. I have to "teach English" at a Vietnamese university, while in fact I am secretly planting dissent while forwarding a capitalist agenda of mass consumption in a socialist communist country. Viva la Pepsi, McDonald's, Disneyland, and Nike....whoops, did I say Nike? Me bad. Yup yup, there is only a little amount of time left to enjoy my presence gracing this scene around the Bay; so be sure to run into me before I leave an' gimme a big 'ole hug. I will throw a phat pahty or two b4 I bid adieu, so keep yer ears perked. I plan to be back sometime after the new millenium; that is, unless I get prematurely kicked out of Southeast Asia first. Hopefully I'll be able to post a report out of Vietnam now and then in lieu of virtual postcards. Raves in Saigon to Shanghai? This peepster will be there amidst all the new developments :) *Kiss Kiss* M&m PS Dear Tabby, please refrain from heavy petting of hirsute mutton chops in public places please; there are minors running around. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 08:24:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16264 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 08:24:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 16246 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 08:24:52 -0000 Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.12) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 08:24:52 -0000 Received: from [209.179.143.90] (pool090-cvx.ds50-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.143.90]) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA14714; Tue, 4 May 1999 01:24:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: radley@mail.elemental.nu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <372E6909.4A6D9AB3@athens.crosswinds.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 01:25:08 -0700 To: Anton From: Radley Marx Subject: Re: Skillz Pawty!?!? Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Who Knowz bout tha skillz pawty friday at Golden Gate Park??? pleeeease >let me in on ANY info anyone knows... i HELLUV wanna go!! ^_^ > >Luvz, Panduh Boi ( anton ) Howdy! It's in Golden Gate Park. here's the flyer/site: http://www.elemental.nu/skills see you there! -r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 09:08:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26775 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 09:08:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 26762 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 09:08:32 -0000 Received: from dillinger.io.com (retch@199.170.88.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 09:08:32 -0000 Received: from localhost (retch@localhost) by dillinger.io.com (8.9.1/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA29916 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 04:08:30 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: dillinger.io.com: retch owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 04:08:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Cormac Russell To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: review: Blue Room party in SF Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey everybody, so I made it to my first party in SF. Saturday day, I slept in, then lay in bed reading all day because the book was just that darn good. I managed to get up late, and desperately search through all the boxes in the garage before determining that my swirly blue pants were not there. As far as I can tell my goa party pants (mmm blacklights) and my bag of candy and party toys are both still in a box in NJ. Doh, hopefully Steph will mail them to me soon. Saturday night I hopped on the last Caltrain up from Mountain View where I was with friends to San Francisco. Shades of partying back when I lived in Glen Rock, NJ, hopping on the last train into the city knowing I couldn't come back till the next day. On the train ride up I made a bunch more bracelets so I would have ones to give away at the party. I also made one for the conductor since she stopped and looked at all my beads. :) Whee! Once in SF I hopped a cab to my friend's apartment so I wouldn't have to walk as it was midnight and my party time was slipping away. I hung out with Syl and Wendy for a bit, ate nummy pasta to fuel up for the event, borrowed a fluoro marker from Syl (she did a cool design on my arm without a blacklight to make it visible, good job!!) and off to another cab leaving my bags and music safely in Syl's care. Getting to/from the club was pricey! I miss NYC's quality public transportation! Ah well. Once there I stood on line for maybe 15 minutes or so before getting in. Only $15, which is pretty darn cheap compared to the $20/$25 it costs to get into Vinyl... but still not enough to make up for those cabs. Gues you really are supposed to have a car in SF. Once inside I was happy to see plenty of blacklights. Mmmmm fluoro. :) I immediately ducked into the main room and drew fluoro designs over my hands and face. Didn't do much interesting on my face since I couldn't see myself. Wish I'd been able to find my markers at home so I could have done it under blacklights in my bathroom, ah well, next time. :) Most of the fluoro banners were new to me, though I'd seen the blue room one and the eye swarm one before, and the LARGE ballons with oil projectors were neat looking. Rules of Hypothalamus were performing live. One guy on electric drum pads, a couple guys twiddling knobs, sometimes playing guitar (once), sometimes talking into a microphone, etc. It was live, that was neat. There was one track that soundd familiar, will have to root through my collection and see, but overall it was so-so. The soundsystem wasn't very loud, presumably there was a blown cone in one of the speakers since sometimes they would try and turn the volume up and then every bass drum hit would make popping and crackling sounds. DOH. Rules of Hypothalamus suffered from the fact that they seemed to be playing individual songs, so things didn't build up, no 20 or 30 minute swells of energy. Every time it felt like something like that was happening it would suddenly peter out into silence... After they finished Montauk P started spinning. It seemed to be a hard trance/techno set and without solid bass it was kinda anemic. I wandered off to explore. I popped my head into the Jungle room. Small, but nice, lots of decorations, way louder with better bass than the main room. Ah well. :) It also had much more complete blacklight coverage than the main room. Wierd. Then I went upstairs and sat in the chill room. VERY hot. I'm also getting sick of slow melodic drum and bass instead of actual ambient in chill spaces... For what it was though the music was pleasant and I had a nice time letting my feet/legs rest. A nice grrl gave me a neon sour brite crawler. Mmmm gummicandy. Then I met Sean (shawn?) who was obviously in a very happy place. :) He had good toys with him, which made my lack of toys all the more sad. The most excellent of them (yes I recently saw Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure) was a squishy clear plastic ball filled with tons of glow frogs in gunk. It squished. It was warm, it was filled with overlapping limbs and eyes and whatnot. It was nice meeting a kindred spirit to Bob Baxter. The toygods are about. :) Finally back to the main room, I'm not sure who was spinning at this point but it still seemed to be on the hard trance/techno trip. I danced for a bit then went up to the balcony over the main room, found a bench, sat, listened, lay down on my back, listened, liquided, zoned out, and enjoyed the rest of the night. Was spaced out through the Saafi Brothers, though I didn't notice it being particularly more goa-ish... a little after 7am it was out into the rain waiting for a cab to wisk me off to Syl's apartment where a couch spot was ready for me to come and crash. :) It was a good night, and most of the things that made me not superhappy about it were related to nostalgia and homesickness for NYC and my partyfriends. Compared to my first NYC rave experience (all by myself at Sputnik 6) this was on par for first time alone in a new place. :) Overall observances: Saw a smattering of fluoro clothing, though not quite the spacetribe density of a NYC goa party. More hippies, less israelis. Saw only about a dozen glowsticks over the course of the night. Saw almost nobody liquiding aside from glowstick wielders. People danced rather minimally, didn't see the Israeli ski team or NYC candyraver nordictrack moves coming off of anybody but me... Saw at most 2 or 3 bits of glow jewelry on other people and only a few people with fluoro designs on them. Lots less phat pants than I'm used to. No security presence relatively speaking, and no door search. Wierd. :) HUGS to you all! RTG OUT! ..-. -. --- .-. -.. ..-. -. --- .-. -.. ..-. -. --- .-. -.. ..-. -. --- .-. -.. Retch The Grate aka Cormac Russell Amiga, The Computer for The Creative Mind Tolerance, Peace and Love rcormac@occs.cs.oberlin.edu retch@io.com // /\ Vote Discordian Play Traces Of Reality crussell@dtproductions.com \X/ /()\ URL: http://cs.oberlin.edu/students/rcormac/frontdoor.html B5 <*> B5 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 10:02:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29316 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 10:02:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 29303 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 10:02:01 -0000 Received: from web209.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.109) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 10:02:01 -0000 Message-ID: <19990504100320.9920.rocketmail@web209.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.245.132.28] by web209.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 04 May 1999 03:03:20 PDT Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 03:03:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Ozbourne Subject: Pre-Sale Tickets To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Is it me, or ever since the Happy Kids fiasco a few months ago, hasn't there been a non-stop problem with unqualified promoters and their pre-sales? Including that night, there have been like 5 other parties that abandonned (sp?) their attendies for the extra buck at the door, because they didn't asshole proof their tickets, or simply because they didn't plan ahead. Wouldn't it be great if people thought about this stuff ahead of time, and made sure that it didn't happen? Seeing as it doesn't happen every weekend, obviously some people are thinking ahead, and others just don't care. wtf, J. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 12:10:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24918 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 12:10:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 24898 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 12:10:51 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 12:10:51 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (ABD68211.ipt.aol.com [171.214.130.17]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA25193; Tue, 4 May 1999 05:10:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <372EE3CB.5AEDD242@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 05:10:51 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joaqman CC: Jessica Webster , WhrDaMud@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: New Urban Legend References: <199904301613.JAA10825@mail.dsp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OMG!!! Joaqman... you are very misinformed. You ever seen those commercials for those absorbent paper towels? BOUNTY... Sparkle... etc. etc. Well, they are use to absorb liquids that have spilled all over the couonter. LSD is soluble in water. LSD in liquid form can be absorbed by paper. See... if you look at paper underneath a microscope you will see very small gaps between the fibers... these gaps is where the liquid goes when it is absorbed. These fibers hold the liquid LSD. LSD begins to go bad as soon as it touches the blotter. Expired acid gives you that nasty "rat dying" feeling that you belive is the strychnine. It's just really rotten LSD. Just like rotten milk will make you sick so will rotten LSD. You don't take prescription drugs that are expired. Liquid LSD stays fresher longer for obvious reasons. It is not exposed to oxygen. The LSD stays fresher in that little dropper vial that will now freshen more than just your breath. This has been a public service announcement. Paul*E*Wog P.S. LSD does NOT cause chromosome damage. There is NO strychnine in LSD. LSD does not deplete the fluid in your spinal column. LSD does not stay in your body. LSD does not form crystals that attach to your spinal column. Read a book about brain chemistry! Jessica Webster wrote: > > And look out for them maraschino cherries! Formaldehyde, yum... > > Jessica > > At 08:48 AM 4/30/99 -0700, Joaqman wrote: > >strychnine is used to adhere LSD to blotter paper. > >without strychnine the LSD would slip off the > >blotter. no strychnine, no blotter hits. yes, you > >ingest strychnine which is deadly in larger amounts > >everytime you take a blotter hit. > > > >stik to liquid or gel or be like me and give it up > >permanently, > >freedom of choice, is what you got. > > > >joaqman > > > > > > > > > > > >---WhrDaMud@aol.com wrote: > >> > >> sorry this is a forrward that i just got but this > >is the new legend going > >> around i see > >> > >> Someone sent me this and I thought it was worth > >passing on..... > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Hello, this is to warn every one of a new thing > >happening in communities > >> as a gang initiation and such. If > >> you care about anyone, please forward this to them > >immediately so they > >> can learn of the possible harm. Even if you don't > >read this, at least > >> forward it to people. > >> Hello, my name is Tina Strongman and I work at a > >police station, as a > >> phone operator for 911. Lately, we've received many > >phone calls > >> pertaining to a new sort of problem that has arisen > >in the inner cities, > >> and is now working it's way to smaller towns. It > >seems that a new form > >> of gang initiation is to go find as many pay phones > >as possible and put > >> a mixture of LSD and Strychnine onto the buttons. > >This mixture is deadly > >> to the human touch, and apparently, this has killed > >some people on the > >> east coast. Strychnine is a chemical used in rat > >poison and is easily > >> separated from the rest of the chemicals. When > >mixed with LSD, it > >> creates a substance that is easily absorbed into > >the human flesh, and > >> highly fatal. Please be careful if you are using a > >pay phone anywhere. > >> You may want to wipe it off, or just not use one at > >all. If you have any > >> questions, you can contact me at the links listed > >below. Please be very > >> careful. Let your friends and family know about > >this potential hazard. > >> Thank you. > >> > >> > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 12:15:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25994 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 12:15:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 25985 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 12:15:17 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 12:15:17 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (ABD68211.ipt.aol.com [171.214.130.17]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA28939; Tue, 4 May 1999 05:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <372EE4E9.450D2E1C@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 05:15:37 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MacBunny CC: Troy Sheets , Joaqman , WhrDaMud@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: New Urban Legend References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Expired Acid that's what! Blotter acid has been sitting around too long. It's old and nasty. You could also go to GNC and buy Glucosamine Sulfate to take with your acid so your joints don't hurt. You could also to stretching excercises to stretch your muscles. You could also learn to relax your body while frying so you don't tense up so much. =Paul*E*Wog MacBunny wrote: > > then what causes poeple to feel really achy in their bones, muscles and > back when they eat paper, but not liquid? > > amber > > On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Troy Sheets wrote: > > > I am afraid you don't know what you are talking about. > > > > There is no strychinine in acid... even in blotters. Acid in > > its purest form is a crystal. It is dissolved into water to make > > the liquid. If you drop or soak this liquid into paper, the water > > evaperates, and the crystals stay on the paper. > > > > -troy > > > > > > > > strychnine is used to adhere LSD to blotter paper. > > > without strychnine the LSD would slip off the > > > blotter. no strychnine, no blotter hits. yes, you > > > ingest strychnine which is deadly in larger amounts > > > everytime you take a blotter hit. > > > > > > stik to liquid or gel or be like me and give it up > > > permanently, > > > freedom of choice, is what you got. > > > > > > joaqman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---WhrDaMud@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > > sorry this is a forrward that i just got but this > > > is the new legend going > > > > around i see > > > > > > > > Someone sent me this and I thought it was worth > > > passing on..... > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > Hello, this is to warn every one of a new thing > > > happening in communities > > > > as a gang initiation and such. If > > > > you care about anyone, please forward this to them > > > immediately so they > > > > can learn of the possible harm. Even if you don't > > > read this, at least > > > > forward it to people. > > > > Hello, my name is Tina Strongman and I work at a > > > police station, as a > > > > phone operator for 911. Lately, we've received many > > > phone calls > > > > pertaining to a new sort of problem that has arisen > > > in the inner cities, > > > > and is now working it's way to smaller towns. It > > > seems that a new form > > > > of gang initiation is to go find as many pay phones > > > as possible and put > > > > a mixture of LSD and Strychnine onto the buttons. > > > This mixture is deadly > > > > to the human touch, and apparently, this has killed > > > some people on the > > > > east coast. Strychnine is a chemical used in rat > > > poison and is easily > > > > separated from the rest of the chemicals. When > > > mixed with LSD, it > > > > creates a substance that is easily absorbed into > > > the human flesh, and > > > > highly fatal. Please be careful if you are using a > > > pay phone anywhere. > > > > You may want to wipe it off, or just not use one at > > > all. If you have any > > > > questions, you can contact me at the links listed > > > below. Please be very > > > > careful. Let your friends and family know about > > > this potential hazard. > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me > > http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks > > http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/Casey3.wav <- Casey Kasem in rare form > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, > is the characteristic of one who knows." > > amber perry-mcquown > > akp2@acpub.duke.edu > amber@earthling.net > amber@marin.cc.ca.us > > http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 12:31:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29788 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 12:31:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 29777 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 12:31:09 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?Gk+CNDDpzru3B+G4Y52qAbwGTbQTVplz?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 12:31:09 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id FAA16315; Tue, 4 May 1999 05:31:09 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 05:31:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com Subject: Doc Scott and Justiyc @Density Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yo, first off, where the hell was everyone? I guess the fact that so many people didn't get into drum&bass until after Shadowboxing rmx had faded is part of it. Or maybe it was only sort of promoted, although if you've been anywhere near a jungle night in the last 2 weeks you've probably got one. Whatever. I got off a plane, went straight to the JL (thank you J & F), chatted a little, while Juju finished a set dedicated to all the hipster wallflowers. Dude, Doc Scott is just a straight sick DJ. He really is the king of the rollers. That was jump-up for the Y2keeeeeezy at times, rolling perfect harmonious beauty sometimes, hard as fuck sometimes. He rolled it out. And Justiyc is pretty much my idol. None can touch. So where was everyone? Hardcore scenester party, and that is a damn shame and disrespectful. Doc Scott is a cornerstone in the world of jungle music. For real. YES DEE OH CEE. And yeah North Carolina and Atlanta were fun. "I'm three thousand miles from home and only the select members of the VRave junglist cabal know my last name." "boh boh boh" 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 12:36:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1213 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 12:36:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 1202 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 12:36:28 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?apa/2gmAHycfNH1pHiFXGkw+8P0GpySP?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 12:36:28 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id FAA16657; Tue, 4 May 1999 05:36:28 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 05:36:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com Subject: bsp: Tuesday night Phuncktion Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk boh, it's about that time. Tuesday night, for the over 21's... at the Top, 424 Haight (@Fillmore) St. SF Phunckateck presents: Phuncktion...drum and bass in motion, with residents Noel and Juju. This is going to be a potentially quite swerved session, while we kick rocks and act pissed off at how few people showed up at Doc Scott and MC Justiyc's performance at Density the night before. But really we will not be pissed off. We will be having a PLURity Vibe-Fest of mellow proportions. =D And here is the guest line-up for the rest of May: May 11: DJ Rinse (Compound Records/B.A.S.S. Kru) May 18: UFO! (Phunckateck) May 25: Siren (Bassment/XLR8R) THAT IS ALL. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 13:05:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8604 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 13:05:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 8586 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 13:05:04 -0000 Received: from mail11.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.139) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 13:05:04 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (ABD68211.ipt.aol.com [171.214.130.17]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA24338; Tue, 4 May 1999 06:04:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <372EF08C.5F96C14E@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 06:05:16 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason Branch the Scarecrow Pyximhn CC: akp2@duke.edu, tsheets@saturn5.com, jakeloco@rocketmail.com, WhrDaMud@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: New Urban Legend References: <19990430181917.89021.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Here is a list of the chemical names: Lysergic Acid Diethylamide (LSD) Psilocybin Cubensis (Magic Mushrooms) Dimethyltryptamine (DMT) 5-Hydroxytryptamin (serotonin) Gamma-Hydroxy-Butrate (GHB) bromo-dimethoxyphenethylamine (Nexus / 2C-B) Dimethoxy-Methylamphetamine (DOM / STP) methylenedioxyamphetamine (MDA) methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA / Ecstacy / Adam) dextromethorphan-hydrobromide (DXM / Robotussin) Ketamine Hydrochloride (Special K) Phencyclidine (PCP) Trimethylxanthine (Caffeine) Delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC / Marijuana) methamphetamine (speed) amphetamine (crank) And to ADD to the original post... Copied from the rec.drugs FAQ: No, there is no strychnine in LSD. EVER. It is physically impossible to fit enough strychnine on a blotter tab to cause an effect; besides, since strychnine is expensive and the manufacturing process never uses it, there's absolutely no point in putting it there. (No, it does not bind the LSD to the paper or carry it across the blood-brain barrier or...) Large-scale lab analyses of street samples have never found ANY strychnine in LSD. The 'speedy' effects of acid, often attributed to the mythical strychnine, are in fact caused by a bad set and setting or possibly LSD breakdown products. See LSD FAQ @ http://hyperreal.org/drugs/faqs/FAQ-LSD-New and http://hyperreal.org/drugs/psychedelics/lsd/strychnine Paul*E*Wog =Paul*E*Wog Jason Branch the Scarecrow Pyximhn wrote: > > M'K I did some reading, and apparently the stric9 is used as a preservative > for the paper type of lisodysurgic acid, much the same way Vodka is used as > a preservative for the liquid lisodysurgic acid. > I like Vodka! > P.S. do any of you have the correct spelling for lisodysurgic so as that I > am able to add it to my spellcheck's database? > going... going... > I'm gone > Jaw > - Ta from Pyximhn > > >From: MacBunny > >To: Troy Sheets > >CC: Joaqman , WhrDaMud@aol.com, > >sfraves@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: New Urban Legend > >Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:41:03 -0400 (EDT) > > > >then what causes poeple to feel really achy in their bones, muscles and > >back when they eat paper, but not liquid? > > > >amber > > > >On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Troy Sheets wrote: > > > > > I am afraid you don't know what you are talking about. > > > > > > There is no strychinine in acid... even in blotters. Acid in > > > its purest form is a crystal. It is dissolved into water to make > > > the liquid. If you drop or soak this liquid into paper, the water > > > evaperates, and the crystals stay on the paper. > > > > > > -troy > > > > > > > > > > > strychnine is used to adhere LSD to blotter paper. > > > > without strychnine the LSD would slip off the > > > > blotter. no strychnine, no blotter hits. yes, you > > > > ingest strychnine which is deadly in larger amounts > > > > everytime you take a blotter hit. > > > > > > > > stik to liquid or gel or be like me and give it up > > > > permanently, > > > > freedom of choice, is what you got. > > > > > > > > joaqman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---WhrDaMud@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > > sorry this is a forrward that i just got but this > > > > is the new legend going > > > > > around i see > > > > > > > > > > Someone sent me this and I thought it was worth > > > > passing on..... > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > Hello, this is to warn every one of a new thing > > > > happening in communities > > > > > as a gang initiation and such. If > > > > > you care about anyone, please forward this to them > > > > immediately so they > > > > > can learn of the possible harm. Even if you don't > > > > read this, at least > > > > > forward it to people. > > > > > Hello, my name is Tina Strongman and I work at a > > > > police station, as a > > > > > phone operator for 911. Lately, we've received many > > > > phone calls > > > > > pertaining to a new sort of problem that has arisen > > > > in the inner cities, > > > > > and is now working it's way to smaller towns. It > > > > seems that a new form > > > > > of gang initiation is to go find as many pay phones > > > > as possible and put > > > > > a mixture of LSD and Strychnine onto the buttons. > > > > This mixture is deadly > > > > > to the human touch, and apparently, this has killed > > > > some people on the > > > > > east coast. Strychnine is a chemical used in rat > > > > poison and is easily > > > > > separated from the rest of the chemicals. When > > > > mixed with LSD, it > > > > > creates a substance that is easily absorbed into > > > > the human flesh, and > > > > > highly fatal. Please be careful if you are using a > > > > pay phone anywhere. > > > > > You may want to wipe it off, or just not use one at > > > > all. If you have any > > > > > questions, you can contact me at the links listed > > > > below. Please be very > > > > > careful. Let your friends and family know about > > > > this potential hazard. > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me > > > http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks > > > http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/Casey3.wav <- Casey Kasem in rare form > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, > >is the characteristic of one who knows." > > > >amber perry-mcquown > > > >akp2@acpub.duke.edu > >amber@earthling.net > >amber@marin.cc.ca.us > > > >http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 13:14:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10766 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 13:14:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 10744 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 13:14:24 -0000 Received: from mail10.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.138) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 13:14:24 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (ABD68211.ipt.aol.com [171.214.130.17]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA17957; Tue, 4 May 1999 06:14:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <372EF2C7.46F79272@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 06:14:47 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: What is a dic-so bunny CC: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Hib=A0Ta=A0Da=A0Hibbidy=A0Hop=20and=A0da=A0Boccoli?= Biff , "Da Sack A Tomatoes ." Subject: Re: METROPOLIS: if yur goin, read this first :) References: <19990430231939.24309.rocketmail@send501.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HELLO!!! All raves are Gay!!! Raves are the gayest thing alive. I swear! They should be called Gayvers, not ravers. No one raves anymore.. everyone just acts hella gay! Gay people are evil. Gay people like to eat dogs and mexican people! =Paul*E*Wog P.S. Rafie is Gay! What is a dic-so bunny wrote: > > Okay...i'm STILL going to Metropolis, but i'd just > thought i'd let you guys know that it is a "gay" rave. > Just check out this website: > > http://www.guspresents.com > > Someone told me that it was...but i didn't believe it > until i checked out this site. > > Please don't take this email out of context...i'm not > trying to persuade anyone to go to it and i'm not > telling you to stay home, but if you're uncomfortable > with it...maybe you should reconsider. > > sherri :) > > P.S. Hope to see some of you guys out at the M&M > March ;p tomorrow!!! > > === > Fievel and Dinky Little SUCK DONKEY From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 14:08:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27972 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 14:08:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 27957 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 14:08:45 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 14:08:45 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.151] (kenya-151.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.151]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10579; Tue, 4 May 1999 07:08:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 07:29:41 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Tue) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello...today's quote is... Just when you think that you have been gypped, the Bearded Lady comes and does a double back-flip. ---John Hiatt ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 15:49:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12345 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 15:49:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 12328 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 15:49:55 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd125.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.189) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 15:49:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 65582 invoked by uid 0); 4 May 1999 15:49:27 -0000 Message-ID: <19990504154927.65581.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.251.193.177 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 04 May 1999 08:49:26 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.251.193.177] From: "ve anne" To: raver_hp@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: stephee@raveworld.net Subject: Re: [Fwd: JUNGLE LIFE CREW] Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 15:49:26 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk peeps, before you jump on my back and try to knock some sense into me, i honestly don't think they're all that and that is just my opinion...MY OPINION. that's nice that you guys think they're bomb and shit but that's *your* opinion. yes i've seen them in action, yeah i think they're okay but i'm not totally into their jump up style. i'm not into watching seven people scratch and spin and all that stuff, i think it gets kinda chaotic and stuff. i'd rather see rinse tear it up by himself mixing in and out of recs like maaad without me even knowing he was mixing.. but my point isn't even valid anymore cause the two crews aren't even battling.. veanne From: "David Ramirez" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: JUNGLE LIFE CREW] Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 22:12:40 PDT thas what i'm sayin.. probly neva seen jungle-life in action.. david.. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "stephanie bitters" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: [Fwd: JUNGLE LIFE CREW] Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 20:04:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 From sfraves-owner-raver_hp Mon May 03 21:05:28 1999 Received: from [209.133.83.16] by hotmail.com (1.5) with SMTP id MHotMailB8F7BD0800CFD1B9832CD185531013730; Mon May 03 21:05:28 1999 Received: (qmail 8391 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 04:05:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 8345 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 04:05:10 -0000 Received: from hipmail4.gohip.com (209.48.69.238) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 04:05:10 -0000 Received:œby hipmail4.gohip.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with hipmail1.gohip.com id UAA01106;Mon, 3 May 1999 20:04:46 -0700 Message-Id: <199905040304.UAA01106@hipmail4.gohip.com> X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.103 (Entity 4.115) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >From: stephee@raveworld.net >Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 16:14:38 >Attachments: >Subject: JUNGLE LIFE CREW > >ok ok i was really perplexed when i read a post about JL Crew that stated that >it took 6 or 7 guys to do the job of one guy. WHAT?? i am assuming that this >person is not informed on what the jungle life crew actaully does. there is no >way one person could do what this crew does. how could one person make phat >beats, mix records, scratch, recite spoken word,and more at once?? every person > >that composes the crew has skills that make up a dope as performance. if you >are curious what the crew is all about, don't get your info form a mailing list >go check them out or visit their web site at www.jungle-life.com. >peace, >sb ------------------------------------------------------------ Get the coolest email address on the web! Visit http://www.raveworld.net today! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 15:57:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16929 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 15:57:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 16907 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 15:57:16 -0000 Received: from web808.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 15:57:16 -0000 Message-ID: <19990504160100.11417.rocketmail@web808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web808.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 04 May 1999 09:01:00 PDT Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 09:01:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: jungle-life & bass kru To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com, poeie@hotmail.com, raver_hp@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have, and they are badass. Whats better then one hot junglist mixing beats to make ya jump, 7 of um... :) --- H4RDHOUSE@aol.com wrote: > have u ever actually seen the jungle life crew spin? > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 16:05:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22272 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 16:05:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 22262 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 16:05:51 -0000 Received: from web806.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 16:05:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990504160350.11879.rocketmail@web806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web806.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 04 May 1999 09:03:49 PDT Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 09:03:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: [Fwd: JUNGLE LIFE CREW] To: ve anne , raver_hp@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: stephee@raveworld.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I love drum and bass musiiiiiic. uh, spin it, scratch it, mix it, upside down, inside out, while drinkin a beer, smokin a j, crying uncontrollably, beboppin behind the decks like a bat outta hell, let it be ten guys, eight chicks, or my grandmother in her bathrobe, just give it to me. --- ve anne wrote: > peeps, > before you jump on my back and try to knock some > sense into me, > i honestly don't think they're all that and that is > just my opinion...MY OPINION. that's nice that you > guys think they're bomb and shit but that's *your* > opinion. yes i've seen them in action, yeah i think > they're okay but i'm not totally into their jump up > style. i'm not into watching seven people scratch > and spin and all that stuff, i think it gets kinda > chaotic and stuff. i'd rather see rinse tear it up > by himself mixing in and out of recs like maaad > without me even knowing he was mixing.. > but my point isn't even valid anymore cause the two > crews aren't even battling.. > > veanne > > From: "David Ramirez" > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [Fwd: JUNGLE LIFE CREW] > Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 22:12:40 PDT > > thas what i'm sayin.. probly neva seen jungle-life > in action.. > david.. > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "stephanie bitters" > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: [Fwd: JUNGLE LIFE CREW] > Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 20:04:46 -0700 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > From sfraves-owner-raver_hp Mon May 03 21:05:28 1999 > Received: from [209.133.83.16] by hotmail.com (1.5) > with SMTP id > MHotMailB8F7BD0800CFD1B9832CD185531013730; Mon May > 03 21:05:28 1999 > Received: (qmail 8391 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May > 1999 04:05:18 -0000 > Received: (qmail 8345 invoked from network); 4 May > 1999 04:05:10 -0000 > Received: from hipmail4.gohip.com (209.48.69.238) > by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 04:05:10 > -0000 > Received:œby hipmail4.gohip.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with > hipmail1.gohip.com id UAA01106;Mon, 3 May 1999 > 20:04:46 -0700 > Message-Id: > <199905040304.UAA01106@hipmail4.gohip.com> > X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.103 (Entity 4.115) > Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org > Precedence: bulk > > > > >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > >From: stephee@raveworld.net > >Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 16:14:38 > >Attachments: > >Subject: JUNGLE LIFE CREW > > > >ok ok i was really perplexed when i read a post > about JL Crew that stated that > > >it took 6 or 7 guys to do the job of one guy. > WHAT?? i am assuming that this > > >person is not informed on what the jungle life > crew actaully does. there is no > > > >way one person could do what this crew does. how > could one person make phat > >beats, mix records, scratch, recite spoken > word,and more at once?? every > person > > > >that composes the crew has skills that make up a > dope as performance. if you > >are curious what the crew is all about, don't get > your info form a mailing list > > > >go check them out or visit their web site at > www.jungle-life.com. > >peace, > >sb > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Get the coolest email address on the web! Visit > http://www.raveworld.net today! > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 16:17:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28394 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 16:17:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 28385 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 16:17:04 -0000 Received: from diana.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.239) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 16:17:04 -0000 Received: from [130.212.201.117] (madmax-117.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.117]) by diana.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA28153 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 09:13:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <922a0479.245fe5db@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 09:14:08 -0700 To: Society of Felchers and Repomen From: Michael Standish Subject: Re: Totally RR: Drug awareness/education, what will come to our scene ??? Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 1:55 AM -0400 5/4/99, Aryck46@aol.com wrote: >slightest amount af alcohol, and the slightest amount of GHB, could >>possibly kill her. > Was this event avoidable ? Probably not. Education about the dangers of drugs, is likely to be of only moderate benefit. Teens think they're invincible, so knowing that something is dangerous won't stop them doing it. Everybody knows that cigarettes kill, but teens smoke like crazy. Do you all wear seat belts? Many people, especially teens don't, even though everyone has been educated to know that seat belts save lives. Perhaps, armed with a little knowledge your friend would have had the sense not to take GHB. However, lots of ravers who know the risks of GHB chug the shit down anyway, thinking "it won't happen to me." > Will this happen again ? It is certain. Only next time maybe some kid will die right on the dance floor. Raves, are full of drugs, and where there's drugs there's death, and ODs. Get used to it. Keep kickin' it in a scene full of drugs, and if you haven't seen a friend die yet, just wait, you will. Giant sig added to protest against quoting entire threads. U UUUUUU U UUUUUUU UU U U UU UUUU lll i h h U UU U UU ll i hh UU UUU UU ll r r i c hh UU UUU UU ll rr rr ii ccc hh h UU UUU UU ll rrrr rr iii cccch hhhh UU UUU UU ll r rr ii cc c hhh UUU U U UU ll r ii cc hh UUU U UUU ll r ii cc hh UUUU U U UUUU ll rrr ii ccc h hh UUUUUU UUU llll rrrr iii cccc hhhh UUU U l r i c h h hh h From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 16:18:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29775 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 16:18:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 29765 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 16:18:42 -0000 Received: from f178.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 16:18:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 70729 invoked by uid 0); 4 May 1999 16:22:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990504162251.70728.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.255.83.239 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 04 May 1999 09:22:50 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.255.83.239] From: "Natasha 426" To: BigM009@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Big M's wkend + my Full Moon Friday Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 09:22:50 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Big M wrote: <> This is so true!! I've only been to one Balance Production (a few of months ago in dodger's warehouse), but let me tell you --> it was OFF THE HOOK!!! I'm not much into house music, either, but I found myself groovin' and dancin' and all I could remember thinking was, "WOW! these people know how to PARTY!" Everyone was happy, and the vibe was INCREDIBLE. I couldn't help but have a good time!! BTW I was a the 'other' Full Moon party (NBC?) Friday night and that was SUCH a good time!!! Beautiful location, well insulated and hidden, great vibe, *awesome people*, and really really good music! (Even tho I froze my butt off :) We definitely need more parties like that one. I had the funnest Friday!! More fun than I've had in a long time =) Outdoor parties ROCK!! :) hugs!! natasha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 16:23:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2211 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 16:23:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 2075 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 16:23:08 -0000 Received: from pohl.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 16:23:08 -0000 Received: from godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.45]) by pohl.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id MAA20844; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:20:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA03034; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:20:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 12:20:15 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu To: Aryck46@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Totally RR: Drug awareness/education, what will come to our scene ??? In-Reply-To: <922a0479.245fe5db@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i think this is a cry for better drug awareness. poeple are not educating themselves enough, so we are seeing tragedies like this happen. luckily, this girl didn't lose her life. others are less fortunate. what happened to the drug awareness booths at parties? how can we start them again? is there anyone on this list who was a part of one? we can either ignore the problem and pretend it's not there, or we can try to educate poeple to be more responsible, because their obviously NOT going to get this kind of education in school for fear that students will be encouraged to drugs (anyone remember the big CONDOM debate in school? give students condoms to protect themselves and it will only make them want to have sex?) our school system sucks at educating our youth about real world drama. we should start taking it upon ourselves to educate eachother. i'm willing to help out/organize in any way i can. if poeple could start throwing information out there it would be wonderful. much love, amber On Tue, 4 May 1999 Aryck46@aol.com wrote: > > Sunday morning about 4 am, a friend of mine passed out on the > dancefloor of the disco bisquits party. about half an hour later she was in > the ER. She had no heart beat, and a faint pulse (if that makes any sense), > she didn't respond to pain, sounds, light, anything. . . she was in a coma. > Why was this 16 year old girl in a coma ? > Because she didn't know,. . . > > She's an intelligent girl, a bit rebellious (if you can believe a 16 year old > being rebellious) and that night she wasn't really doing anything diffirent. > When she got to the party, she took half a hit of e. . . not bad you think. . > . cool, later she dropped some acid, no prob you say. . . a little while > later she drank some peppermint schnopps. . . getting a little perved you > say. . . but then this guy who she and her friend were talking to gave her a > taste of this "liquid E" stuff. Now I know and you probably know what this > stuff was, but she didn't. About 15-20 mins later, she was unconcious. > Now no one ever told this young lady anything about anything called > liquid e. I've never heard of it, I've never seen it, it's possible I'm sure > to make it, but I've also seen people mix like coc and heroin, and mescaline, > and speed in a pill and call it e. And she never knew that even the > slightest amount af alcohol, and the slightest amount of GHB, could possibly > kill her. > Was this event avoidable ? > Will this happen again ? > > Me and her boyfriend and my friend and her guy waited in the IC waiting room > with her mother and mother's boyfriend. You just can't realize how things > like this hurt soooo many people until you see the pain it causes each and > every friend, relative, even people who barely know someone in a situation > like this. Of course since the mother didn't know me, she looked at me (not > in a nice way) when we showed up. > A few hours later, around 10 or 11, she began to regain conciousness. > Now I don't know how well she is to this moment, but I'm sure she has no idea > where she was lastnight, she's probably forgotten other things, and probably > done irreversible damage to herself. Nothing serious, but unnecessary > nonetheless. > > Now I've been thinking. Some people are into this sober raving thing. > Now I'm not the portrait of a sober raver or anything, though I'm not > un-sober all of the time either. But I totally feel that it would actually be > a possibility to do what we can to educate our community (raver world) about > the things they know little ort nothing of. With all of these younger and > younger people coming out along with all of these new and exotic drugs, do > you think that thay're going to automatically know that they shouldn't do > this, or mix this with this, or whatever. > I'm probably going to kinda continue with my not quite started yet > raver handbook thing and gather up all the info on drugs and such in the > scene as possible. Now I would actually like to eventually print hundreds and > hundreds of copies of these little books and have booths at parties where we > can have info on drugs, other things, and raver handbooks (or whatever they > would be called). Free of charge of course. I'd deal with the printing part, > and I'm not totlally committed yet, but I'm getting closer and closer. (I'm a > busy guy). > But please everyone, in the meantime, everyone please be responsible > and educate yourself and your friends, because honestly. . . I love each and > every one of you who's words I've read, faces I've seen, voices I've heard or > even just heard the name of. . . I care for you all even without really > knowing you because everyone is a person. . . everyone deserves their life, > some people blow it, and have to start over again, but the sweet ones are > supposed to last the longest, and the sours just dissolve away. . . > > I'de really like to hear some people's ideas on this. . . > > Take care all !!! > > HUGZzzzz > > Aryck > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 16:23:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2267 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 16:23:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 2118 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 16:23:11 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 16:23:11 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (14428) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vSYJa24273 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:22:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 12:22:30 EDT Subject: Re: [Fwd: JUNGLE LIFE CREW] To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/4/99 11:51:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, poeie@hotmail.com writes: << peeps, before you jump on my back and try to knock some sense into me, i honestly don't think they're all that and that is just my opinion...MY OPINION. that's nice that you guys think they're bomb and shit but that's *your* opinion. yes i've seen them in action, yeah i think they're okay but i'm not totally into their jump up style. i'm not into watching seven people scratch and spin and all that stuff, i think it gets kinda chaotic and stuff. i'd rather see rinse tear it up by himself mixing in and out of recs like maaad without me even knowing he was mixing.. but my point isn't even valid anymore cause the two crews aren't even battling.. veanne >> yeah im sure these guys are the coolest people u can kick it with u knoe...but i have to agree with veanne on this one....its in my most humble opinion too. i dont think that jungle life crew is all dat. if they were like competing in the ITF championchips that would be a completely different story. they would be cool there and possibly win a world championchip. but on the dancefloor i dont think it can cut it. maybe as a live pa style thing yeah. but its too much for me if i want to get my booty groovy on ...uknowwhatimsayin....1stamendmendprotectsthisstatement DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 16:35:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13458 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 16:35:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 13448 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 16:35:39 -0000 Received: from pohl.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 16:35:39 -0000 Received: from godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.45]) by pohl.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id MAA21532; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:30:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA04089; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:30:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 12:30:23 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu To: Andrew Nourse cc: Carly Bourne , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: LITTLE KIDS AT PARTIES In-Reply-To: <19990504064032.AAB29437@pythagoras.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i'm a little mixed about this age thing for parties because there are some very mature younger kids, and some very immature older kids, but it's a bit ludicrous to me to send a 7 year old to a party. when i was at gigabeatz at the beggining of this year there was this little girl in the main roo dancing on a stage next to some stripper (yes, she was barely wearing any clothes and had money hanging out of her thong) while dj dan was spinning. by boyfriend went up and asked her what her name was and how old she was. she said "my name is elizabeth, i'm 7." nathan couldn't hear her was said "what?" and with hella attitude she yelled "MY NAME IS ELIZABETH!" and gave him tht "oh my fucking god!" look. i couldn't help thinking the whole time - why isn't this girl in bed sleeping, dreaming of ponis and waiting to get up early to watch sunday morning cartoons? her mother was right near by dancing in the crowd, watching her little girl dance with glowsticks in big ass pants. i know 13-14-15 year olds can be a bit border line. but a 7 year old at a party is plain stupid. if you have a kid and want to bring him/her to a party, bring him to sunset please, not an all night party. let your kid live grow up first, live a little, have fun. i'm not going to get in a huge debate right now about age limits on parties and such but i honestly think parents who bring their little children to parties need a reality check. a kid is just a kid, and probably won't grow up to be a healthy individual if their out partying all night. i just have to wonder what these parents are thinking. much love, amber --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 16:38:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16798 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 16:38:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 16676 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 16:38:16 -0000 Received: from pohl.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 16:38:16 -0000 Received: from godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.45]) by pohl.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id MAA21749; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:34:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA04528; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:34:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 12:34:28 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu To: Paul*E*Wog cc: Joaqman , Jessica Webster , WhrDaMud@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: New Urban Legend In-Reply-To: <372EE3CB.5AEDD242@geocities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk finally! an answer that makes sense and answers my question. thank you paul*e*wog! much love, amber > > OMG!!! Joaqman... you are very misinformed. > > You ever seen those commercials for those absorbent paper towels? > BOUNTY... Sparkle... etc. etc. > > Well, they are use to absorb liquids that have spilled all over the > couonter. > > LSD is soluble in water. > > LSD in liquid form can be absorbed by paper. > > See... if you look at paper underneath a microscope you will see very > small gaps between the fibers... these gaps is where the liquid goes > when it is absorbed. These fibers hold the liquid LSD. > > LSD begins to go bad as soon as it touches the blotter. Expired acid > gives you that nasty "rat dying" feeling that you belive is the > strychnine. It's just really rotten LSD. Just like rotten milk will make > you sick so will rotten LSD. You don't take prescription drugs that are > expired. > > Liquid LSD stays fresher longer for obvious reasons. It is not exposed > to oxygen. The LSD stays fresher in that little dropper vial that will > now freshen more than just your breath. > > This has been a public service announcement. > > Paul*E*Wog > > P.S. LSD does NOT cause chromosome damage. There is NO strychnine in > LSD. LSD does not deplete the fluid in your spinal column. LSD does not > stay in your body. LSD does not form crystals that attach to your spinal > column. Read a book about brain chemistry! > > Jessica Webster wrote: > > > > And look out for them maraschino cherries! Formaldehyde, yum... > > > > Jessica > > > > At 08:48 AM 4/30/99 -0700, Joaqman wrote: > > >strychnine is used to adhere LSD to blotter paper. > > >without strychnine the LSD would slip off the > > >blotter. no strychnine, no blotter hits. yes, you > > >ingest strychnine which is deadly in larger amounts > > >everytime you take a blotter hit. > > > > > >stik to liquid or gel or be like me and give it up > > >permanently, > > >freedom of choice, is what you got. > > > > > >joaqman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >---WhrDaMud@aol.com wrote: > > >> > > >> sorry this is a forrward that i just got but this > > >is the new legend going > > >> around i see > > >> > > >> Someone sent me this and I thought it was worth > > >passing on..... > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> Hello, this is to warn every one of a new thing > > >happening in communities > > >> as a gang initiation and such. If > > >> you care about anyone, please forward this to them > > >immediately so they > > >> can learn of the possible harm. Even if you don't > > >read this, at least > > >> forward it to people. > > >> Hello, my name is Tina Strongman and I work at a > > >police station, as a > > >> phone operator for 911. Lately, we've received many > > >phone calls > > >> pertaining to a new sort of problem that has arisen > > >in the inner cities, > > >> and is now working it's way to smaller towns. It > > >seems that a new form > > >> of gang initiation is to go find as many pay phones > > >as possible and put > > >> a mixture of LSD and Strychnine onto the buttons. > > >This mixture is deadly > > >> to the human touch, and apparently, this has killed > > >some people on the > > >> east coast. Strychnine is a chemical used in rat > > >poison and is easily > > >> separated from the rest of the chemicals. When > > >mixed with LSD, it > > >> creates a substance that is easily absorbed into > > >the human flesh, and > > >> highly fatal. Please be careful if you are using a > > >pay phone anywhere. > > >> You may want to wipe it off, or just not use one at > > >all. If you have any > > >> questions, you can contact me at the links listed > > >below. Please be very > > >> careful. Let your friends and family know about > > >this potential hazard. > > >> Thank you. > > >> > > >> > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 17:03:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3290 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 17:03:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 3279 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 17:03:41 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 17:03:41 -0000 Received: from HppyXTC@aol.com (15549) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNZHa20662; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:02:18 -0400 (EDT) From: HppyXTC@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 13:02:16 EDT Subject: Re: Totally RR: Drug awareness/education, what will come to our scene??? To: Aryck46@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Drug use will always be a part of our culture (not just the rave scene). We have already seen by the failed "War on Drugs" that elimating drug abuse is impossible. What the whole country needs is drug AWARENESS. Making a responsible decision to use a drug, is ok (in my opinion). But you have to be RESPONSIBLE! Know what you are taking into your body. Know what precautions you should take before you take the drug. Know what not to mix with your drug (ie. E and antidepressants, alcohol and GHB). Most importantly....USE DRUGS IN MODERATION! Getting f*cked up EVERY weekend is NOT good for you. You only have one body. You screw it up now, and you are forever going to be kicking yourself in the ass. There is a reason why these drugs are illegal. It is because people ABUSE them. Of course, everyone is taking a risk by using substances. But as we are hearing more and more, people are OD'ing because of ignorance about the drug they are using. Drug Awareness booths are a good idea. I'm sure there are many organizations that would provide information for anyone who was interested. But, I guess what I am trying to say, is think about what you are doing. I personally, party sober most of the time. I do use drugs once in a while, like on a special occasion or some situation where I feel it is going to be a good experience for me. But, really, we have a very limited understanding of the physical and pyschological effect of some of these drugs. Use them carefully. Everyone's body is different and will react differently. It's a gamble (a fun one, but a risk at the same time), so don't push your luck. Please, everyone, for the sake of your friends, family and yourself, BE CAREFUL! Love, Heather From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 17:26:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18767 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 17:26:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 18759 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 17:26:35 -0000 Received: from ewey-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO ewey.excite.com) (198.3.99.191) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 17:26:35 -0000 Received: from doby.excite.com ([199.172.152.182]) by ewey.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990504172620.EEWI13789.ewey@doby.excite.com> for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 10:26:20 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: peer pressure can be good... Message-Id: <925838768.13305.411@excite.com> Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 10:26:08 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk (first, slight apologies to michael standish who will have to convert my message so he can read it without capital letters... since i type like 100 wpm, it's so much more refreshing to not have to use the caps key much... and cuter too, don't you think? at least i compose actual english sentences, use correct grammar (usually), don't mix caps and lower case in some twisted stylized way, and can actually spell "cool" and "probably" unlike many on this list ... ;^) but the important thing i want to say is... aryck's story of the girl who took the ghb at a party saturday night makes me think of who we really need to be pointing a finger at... every time i hear one of these stories, or attend personally to someone who is in a ghb coma.... i look at it and think WHERE DID THIS PERSON GET THE GHB??? aryck says the girl was told "it's liquid e" .... now, i know at least one person in our scene who describes his "product" this way.... and i know there are more who promote the use of this very dangerous substance in our community. when i say "dangerous" i don't mean that it has no useful applications, or that when used very very responsibly, it does damage... i mean it's *extremely dangerous* when used incorrectly... and anyone who is describing it as "liquid e" is full of shit and heading for disaster. and i bet many people witnessed this little conversation... so i would like to plant an idea in each and everyone's head... the next time you see someone "pushing" drugs.... and that is the right word... because when someone is describing an unfamiliar drug in beautiful and romantic terms, and *mis-describing* a substance by using inappropriate metaphors... then they are *pushing* drugs... so the next time you see that... how about you take personal responsibility to speak up.... say "excuse me, what exactly is that you're talking about?" and insert yourself into the conversation... ask questions, provide information, point out inacurracies in what someone is saying... to me, the responsible party is *also* the one who provided a dangerous substance to someone without fully informing them of the risks involved.... people who know about ghb know that if you take it with ANY alcohol in your system, you are heading for a likely ghb coma... let's stop accepting this kind of behavior, let's stop looking the other way, and let's start putting a little peer pressure on everyone around us to be honest, to be educated, and to make responsible choices that won't result in comas or death.... not even to mention the negative publicity that arises from these situations. this is the reason ghb is not ever appropriate in this kind of party situation... if you want to do something stupid in the privacy of your own home, be my guest... but when you come to a party, you have responsiblity to everyone else who's there... let's make the accountable ones accountable... love, leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 17:33:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22236 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 17:33:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 22216 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 17:33:31 -0000 Received: from wya-oe12.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.77) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 17:33:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 33447 invoked by uid 0); 4 May 1999 17:35:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990504173542.33446.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.72.102.173 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 04 May 1999 10:35:42 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.72.102.173] From: "David Ramirez" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: jungle-life crew Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 10:35:42 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk personally.. i think it takes more skill to mix with other guys then to mix by yourself.. everyone has to be on point, theres more of a chance for error.. i dunno if everyone else thinks so, but whenever i phuka round on 4+ decks its phukin hard.. thas why i give jungle-life such props.. turntablists w/ jungle beatz.. cant beat dat..!!.. i wouldn't be suprised if other crews formed like jungle-life.. wit 2+ dj's and turntablists gettin down.. david.. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 18:14:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14012 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 18:14:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 14001 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 18:14:09 -0000 Received: from web302.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.184) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 18:14:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990504181536.8502.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.7.102] by web302.yahoomail.com; Tue, 04 May 1999 11:15:36 PDT Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 11:15:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Gosiewski Subject: Kids at Parties (Whirl-y-gig, London) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The two main issues that have been discussed in this thread (Responsibility for the less Experienced & the Frustration of being under 18 but ready to party) have been well addressed by a London Crew called Whirl-Y-Gig who organise parties that are designed for ALL ages. They sometimes throw parties under Circus Tents with special areas for Children to play as well as discrete areas for the grownups to smoke a J etc ... They feature lots of Colourful dance performers, Great DJs, and Live acts like Banco De Gaja, Loop Guru etc ... Their events are always enlightening, inclusive experiences... So it can be done , it's just that the events have to be designed with age diversity in mind. Child-Safe Raves are possible without sacrificing intensity or integrity... Whirl-Y-Gig do it regularly.. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 18:29:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2478 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 18:29:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 2461 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 18:29:45 -0000 Received: from web134.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.221) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 18:29:45 -0000 Message-ID: <19990504183000.11603.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.54.93] by web134.yahoomail.com; Tue, 04 May 1999 11:30:00 PDT Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 11:30:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: Formula: Jungle Massive?!? To: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com, SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk As far as I know, it is still happening. I got my ticket on Sunday. It is CLEAR. I think it will be in Oakland, but not sure. But wherever it is, I'll be there. =D *HUGZ* pat From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 18:39:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10660 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 18:39:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 10640 invoked by uid 233); 4 May 1999 18:39:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 20037 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 16:04:57 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 May 1999 16:04:57 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-21.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.21]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA10193; Sun, 2 May 1999 09:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990502143850.0068be5c@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 09:38:50 -0500 To: "Sharalee Baumgarner" From: Nuku Subject: Re: All about me... THINK BEFORE YOU SEND ! Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Look shara or whatever, it's great that you wanna share yourself with the world but you sent 3 bloody pictures that cloggedd up my conncetion. So next time you wanna share perhaps post your pics on the web or ask ppl ahead of time if they want your pic. Becuase when you do things like you just did you fuck with alot of ppls mailboxes and clog it with spam. Agitated Nuku At 04:49 PM 5/1/99 PDT, you wrote: >Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; > > SFRAVES- here are some pictures of me from 9th grade, 10th grade and >10th grade again standing there with my friend Billy, and a really stupid >form to let you know more about me, which I don't really believe lets you >know more about me, but all well.... > > > > >Name: Sharalee Jean Baumgarner > >sex: female > >Age: 15 for 19 more days... > >BDay: May 20th (born in '83) > >heighth: 5'4 > >weight: 105 > >eye color: dark brown > >hair color: dark brown > >shoes you are wearing: 'black' KB & Company shoes > >fave music: everything 'cept all that country garbage > >fave thing to do: party > >sisters: Amy 26, Shareen 17, Janessa 1 1/2, Tierra 1/2 > >brothers: Ricky 23, Lesley 21, D.J. 18, Joshua 10, Perry 3 > >moms: real-Mona 44, step-Sherri 35, foster-Sherri 49 > >dads: real-Perry 45, foster-Dick 50 > >Who do you live with- Mona and Shareen > >What do you live in- A two bedroom apartment > >Where do you live- In the Auburn Greens Apartments in the USA, in >California, in Auburn, etc... > >What do you wanna be- veterinarian/guitarist (although I still don't know >how to play yet) > >boyfriend- no > >girlfriend- no > >gay/bi/straight- straight I think > >What are you doing right now- Drinkin a Ruby Red Squirt filling this out. > >What'd you do at your first rave- Danced, got dehydrated, did E, got >hyped up, got my first candies, hung out with some friends, celebrated my >friend's 15th bday, went to the Harmony room mostly, watched the screen melt >into different pictures, played with the lazers, played with glow sticks, >played a lot, etc. I don't know!!! > >Who'd you go with to your first rave- Well, I drove there with my friends >Thesea, Billy, and Rhianda. Then I met up with my friends Starla, Sheree, >Matt, Rachelle, Ryan, Celena, Shannon, Summone, Jeff, etc.... > >Did you have fun- not at first, but then hell yes! > >Were the people nice- very > >How much did it cost to get in-$20.00 > >Is this boring you- yes > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 18:39:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10800 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 18:39:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 10661 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 18:39:29 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 18:39:29 -0000 Received: from Fiercefigs@aol.com (7812) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLIDa20661 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 14:37:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Fiercefigs@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:37:50 EDT Subject: This Jungle Life Crap To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I really hope that no one from the Jungle -Life crew belongs to this list cause I would be really fuckin embarrassed at the petty shit going on. I think that the Jungle Life crew is full of hot guys with phat beats on turntables doin there thang and if somebody doesn't like it shutup and deal with it and stop baggin I'm sure some of the stuff you other people think is good I would think sucks booty.,Everyone is totally entitled to there opinion but you just can not deny the JL-Crew Fiona From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 18:48:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20192 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 18:48:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 20054 invoked by uid 233); 4 May 1999 18:48:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 13292 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 03:38:23 -0000 Received: from spazmo.peacedividend.com (HELO mail.peacedividend.com) (208.25.76.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 03:38:23 -0000 Received: from [208.25.76.69] (208.25.76.69) by mail.peacedividend.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.2.2); Sun, 2 May 1999 20:39:34 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: jessica@mail.peacedividend.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 20:38:14 -0700 To: Kitana3737@aol.com, cindy@lodge.com, maxik@slip.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: dj kEMISTRY Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk A cat's eye is one of those reflective thingies that mark lanes in the street. Crazy... Jessica ******************************** http://www.peacedividend.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 18:48:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20884 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 18:48:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 20780 invoked by uid 233); 4 May 1999 18:48:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 16713 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 03:50:22 -0000 Received: from spazmo.peacedividend.com (HELO mail.peacedividend.com) (208.25.76.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 03:50:22 -0000 Received: from [208.25.76.69] (208.25.76.69) by mail.peacedividend.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.2.2); Sun, 2 May 1999 20:51:39 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: jessica@mail.peacedividend.com Message-Id: Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 20:50:17 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: help! song/artist info Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I've had this song going thru my head, Chicago acid house thang, that was on a mix tape someone made for me (Troy, who was with Meat Beat last time I saw him. Anyone know where he's at?) way back in '88, that is long lost, and I need to find it. I'd guess it was called "Lack of Love," but I can't find anything under that title. Some lyrics: Love to have them at my will just for pleasure and for thrills I can't seem to get enough Hurting for the lack of love with a chorus: For the Lack of Love, burning/sweating/hurting for the lack of love... I can't believe I lost that mix tape. Many songs from it are on Hardfloor's Jack the Box, but it's just not the same. Argh! Thanks in advance, Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 18:48:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21500 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 18:48:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 21324 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 18:48:50 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 18:48:50 -0000 Received: from Macias20@aol.com (318) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJIMa13120; Tue, 4 May 1999 14:47:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Macias20@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:47:22 EDT Subject: Re: Totally RR: Drug awareness/education, what will come to our scene??? To: Aryck46@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I can relate 100% to Aryck, a few years back, i lost a best friend of mine due to the similar thing.. he was offered a drug he wasn't too sure about and to everyone it seemed like he was floored.. we all sat down and he layed his head on my lap and i thought he was sleeping.. to my horror, he wasn't breathing much and we rushed him to the hospital.. he was in a coma and died 3 days later... I later found out it was a mixture of acid, nitro and some form of E. I blamed myself for a long time that i hadn't stopped and realized what he was doing...and I stopped raving for a while because the thought of him not being there was too unbearable..but i realize that we all have to be responsible for our actions and that now he's in a better place... and that he's with me 24-7...so please, be responsible and know what your taking...please stop the unnecessary overdoses and deaths...I LOVE U SEAN :) ull always be my kandee gloworm ;) valerie AKA sparkles Sean "gLoWoRm" Barraza 1978-1995 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 18:54:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26179 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 18:54:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 26162 invoked by uid 233); 4 May 1999 18:54:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 17390 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 16:52:10 -0000 Received: from cloudfactory.org (HELO stratus.cloudfactory.org) (kati@205.179.129.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 16:52:10 -0000 Received: from localhost (kati@localhost) by stratus.cloudfactory.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA24840 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 09:44:58 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 09:44:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Kati Fleming To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Outdoor Parties Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Dear SFravers, I hope everyone had a great weekend. Friday night I had the extreme pleasure of dancing on the beach all night with my husband. Yesterday I went to the Sunshine Daybreaks party and was _so_ impressed by the decorations, the space, the music, the people - everything was so perfect!!! My first outdoor party of the season reminded me how much better music sounds outside, how good it feels to breathe fresh air in the morning instead of the stale, sickliness of a dirty warehouse and how lucky we are to be able to throw parties outdoors. Upon leaving the beach in the morning, I was reminded of something else, the necessity that we be accountable for ourselves; when I saw that most of the people had already left and that the beach was _covered_ with empty beer bottles, balloons, little metal nitrous crackers, old food, parts of tents, socks, underwear and _tons_ of other shit I was embarassed. Let's _please_ remember to leave our outdoor spaces as clean as when we arrived or, even better, let's make an effort to make them even cleaner than before the party!! Remember, we're not the only ones who use these spaces; let's not forget that birds and other animals can and will ingest, choke and die from the careless scattering of rubbage. Promoters - I _implore_ you to bring garbage bags to your outdoor parties and to be prepared to haul out the garbage. It's not enough to assume that someone else will clean up, it's up to all of us!! Partiers - don't be afraid to shame others into cleaning up after themselves. If you see people who look like they're leaving trash behind, kindly remind them that they need to take out what they brought in. It's truly a privilege to party outdoors, so let's please be respectful! xoxoxo, kati From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 19:00:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1495 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 19:00:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 1300 invoked by uid 233); 4 May 1999 18:59:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 3623 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 19:31:13 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 19:31:13 -0000 Received: from Furnash1@aol.com (8036) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vTFKa02293 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:28:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Furnash1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 15:26:45 EDT Subject: Tahoe raves? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 205 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Speaking of Reno, does anyone know where I can get info about the rave scene in the Reno/Tahoe area? I'm going 2 be up there for summer and I don't want 2 have to stop going to parties or drive for hours to get to them. Thanx & have a good Monday. ;-) Luv, Anna Subject: To Kids in RENO To: sfraves@hyperreal.org I had a wonderful time in Reno this weekend. Thanks for all the fun and laughter. I almost felt as if I was home again in Iowa. You don't really appreciate the smaller scenes and how much PLUR goes around until you move. I do miss it a lot and HELL YA I'm going back to Reno, somebody please let me know when there is Rave there. Brandon, your the coolest man and I am so I glad I bumped into, we connect man. Tara, your the shit girl, keep on raving and I like your moves. To Tina, your my sweety and always well, but I want you to take care of yourself and go get checked out. I don't want to have to go thru another episode like that, it was scary and I know your stress out, but go get checked out. We all care for you. Peace and lots of PLUR to RENO Chep From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 19:01:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3479 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 19:01:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 3140 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 19:01:13 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 19:01:13 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-190.dsp.com [204.118.76.190]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA20072 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:00:02 -0700 Message-Id: <199905041900.MAA20072@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 11:59:39 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: what the---? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just so ya know, I sent those messages (Kemistry, track id) days ago. I dunno why they just showed up. Thanks to all who helped me id that track! Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 19:02:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4805 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 19:02:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 4785 invoked by uid 233); 4 May 1999 19:02:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 22395 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 20:38:54 -0000 Received: from ns.ultimanet.com (HELO iceberg.ultimanet.com) (205.179.129.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 May 1999 20:38:54 -0000 Received: from [206.132.214.162] (03-146.006.popsite.net [206.132.214.146]) by iceberg.ultimanet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA24793 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 13:42:44 -0700 X-Sender: terry@mail.viberation.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 12:40:47 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: terry estioko Subject: Stopping Ticket Duplications Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk There are plenty of ways to stop tickets from being forged. I've seen some pretty simple tickets that are just xeroxes on colored paper that scream, "copy me copy me!" I would expect that considering there is a supposed uprise in counterfeiters out there, promoters would take extra, simple precautions to make life easier for everyone. A few common strategies are custom rubber stamps, special inks, lamination, non-conventional printing techniques, a custom embossing machine (like harmony has), hidden watermarks (carefully inspect the most recent cloudfactory and viberation tickets), perforations, number machine stamping, etc. Using a combination of these and alerting the crew so they can spot forgeries is a necessity in throwing parties. I won't go into specific details about the above techniques for obvious reasons, but if any promoters inquire I will happily divulge our strategies. -terry ------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@viberation.com http://www.viberation.com/terry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 19:13:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10863 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 19:12:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 10852 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 19:12:57 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 19:12:57 -0000 Received: from Macias20@aol.com (318) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iHKYa16060; Tue, 4 May 1999 14:59:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Macias20@aol.com Message-ID: <99fe028f.24609d90@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:59:28 EDT Subject: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!! To: macadio@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk If im not mistaken... today's MACADIO"S BIRTHDAY.. YAY!!!!! if it is... happy birthday :) if it isn't... well have a great un-birthday too :) See ya at FIRST LIGHT... valerie AKA sparkles From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 19:15:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12697 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 19:15:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 12668 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 19:15:49 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 19:15:49 -0000 Received: from Sera13@aol.com (8006) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vBFNa10991; Tue, 4 May 1999 15:12:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Sera13@aol.com Message-ID: <962c50c0.2460a085@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 15:12:05 EDT Subject: Re: Totally RR: Drug awareness/education, what will come to our scene??? To: Aryck46@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hmmmmmm...... Raver handbook....did you say raver handbook......???? What is this world coming to....raver handbook? This shit happens......raver handbook????? Haver randbook??????? Use cotton paper if you want print mad copies of this DAVER bandrook, i know some trees would be pissed if they were cut down for a handbook on raving.....I think if you feel really stong about the topic pull your friends aside and talk some sense into them, but remember we are all going to do what we want...raver handbook????????? sorry, about your pal that is weak sauce. I don't know about the raver handbook idea, it is thoughtful though. Cherries, Sera From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 19:36:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27687 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 19:36:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 27656 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 19:36:06 -0000 Received: from sco.sco.com (132.147.128.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 19:36:06 -0000 Received: from novasco.sco.COM(132.147.178.252) via SMTP by sco.sco.COM, id smtpdAAAa006a3; Tue May 4 12:34:59 1999 Received: from lesleymo.sco.com by novasco.sco.com id aa25776; 4 May 99 12:26 PDT Message-ID: <372F49B2.BDBCF739@sco.com> Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 12:25:38 -0700 From: Lesley Mortell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stefan Gosiewski CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Kids at Parties (Whirl-y-gig, London) References: <19990504181536.8502.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I agree with you, however the other thing about Whirl-Y-Gig is that it is an acknowledged child/family type of event so the people that go are expecting to see children there and act accordingly. Plus it rarely goes on all night, usually finishing about 2am and I think when it was in Hammersmith it used to start in the afternoon and finish around 11pm. Lesley ps - it is also the "Hippy Rave" event of the month in London ;) Stefan Gosiewski wrote: > > The two main issues that have been discussed in this thread > (Responsibility for the less Experienced & the Frustration of being > under 18 but ready to party) have been well addressed by a London Crew > called Whirl-Y-Gig who organise parties that are designed for ALL ages. > They sometimes throw parties under Circus Tents with special areas for > Children to play as well as discrete areas for the grownups to smoke a > J etc ... They feature lots of Colourful dance performers, Great DJs, > and Live acts like Banco De Gaja, Loop Guru etc ... Their events are > always enlightening, inclusive experiences... So it can be done , it's > just that the events have to be designed with age diversity in mind. > Child-Safe Raves are possible without sacrificing intensity or > integrity... Whirl-Y-Gig do it regularly.. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 19:43:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4766 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 19:43:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 4748 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 19:43:55 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 19:43:55 -0000 Received: from PHUNKN3@aol.com (8080) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vUUSa04813 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 15:42:43 -0400 (EDT) From: PHUNKN3@aol.com Message-ID: <64f2dff6.2460a7b2@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 15:42:42 EDT Subject: BSP:PHUNCKTION TONITE!!!(5/4)JUJU, NOEL &MC DUH To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 56 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What up...... PHUNCKATECK presents: **PHUNCKTION** w/ JUJU & NOEL also, on the mic: MC DUH (bezerkley style) *** (we will be dropping some old style s**t tonite...having fun!!!!) *** THE TOP 424 HAIGHT ST., SF. 10pm-2am / 21+ / 3 bones info: 415.789.8000 x 1147 come on down..... easy, Noel dj_noel_sf@hotmail.com PHUNCKATECK COMMUNICATIONS----communicating to the world thru music http://www.sfdb.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 19:45:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6029 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 19:45:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 6020 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 19:45:48 -0000 Received: from mail.netzero.net (HELO l3serv10.netzero.net) (209.0.233.22) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 19:45:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 22091 invoked by uid 0); 4 May 1999 19:45:38 -0000 Received: from dialup-209.245.72.119.losangeles1.level3.net (HELO katskratcher) (209.245.72.119) by mail.netzero.net with SMTP; 4 May 1999 19:45:38 -0000 Message-ID: <015f01be9668$5d0311c0$7748f5d1@katskratcher> From: ",,^. .^,," To: "MacBunny" , "Andrew Nourse" Cc: "Carly Bourne" , Subject: Re: LITTLE KIDS AT PARTIES Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 12:57:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm a parent.. of two even. And i have to say that i couldn't agree more.. 12, 13, 14. ok. This to me is still a bit too young, but not nearly as terrible as seeing a 7 year old at a party. I have a 6 year old and a two year old. I do take them to daytime events, parties in the park, and so on so that they can experience the things that i love, without the negative effects. I live in LA, but i've taken frequent trips up to SF and taking my eldest to a number of Sunsets. He loved it.. and it was beautiful to see the response of all the people watching him dance. And he brought great energy to the parties we visited. But NEVER will i EVER will i take my kids to a UG. Not until they're well into their teens. Obviously with the outbreaks of school shootings and teen pregnancies our children are growing up too fast as is, i'm one of the earliest cases of this, i had my first son at 17. in some ways i'm hypocritical on this subject, i was doing drugs at a very young age, hangin out with people twice my age,.. but look where it got me.. i'm poor, to the extent that i never stop worrying about where the money will come from to feed my kids, I can't just get some job that pays minimum wage, beause that'd only pay for the daycare, so thats pointless, i can't afford to go to college, i have almost no skills because i stayed home to raise my boys.... i'm 24 years old, and i stay home all the time.. at this age, i should be able to go out to bars and be with friends, or go shopping for shoes like most women my age, instead, i hardly ever party, i give up having new clothes all the time so my kids are well dressed and have shoes that fit... i'm from a generation where kids weren't near as bad as they are now... what will the world be like when that 7 year old Amber saw at that party grows up? i shudder at the thought.. i'm terribly sorry to ramble, but it frightens me to no end to see these children at parties... i do hope promoters come up with some rule to stop this before it gets any worse. ,,^. .^,, NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 19:56:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14212 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 19:56:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 14204 invoked by uid 233); 4 May 1999 19:56:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 9434 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 05:25:06 -0000 Received: from law-f101.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.164) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 05:25:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 39518 invoked by uid 0); 4 May 1999 05:24:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990504052436.39517.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.170.187.229 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 03 May 1999 22:24:36 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.170.187.229] From: "michael waldren" To: AlexG1029@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: the weekend review (Hi! and Acid Breaks) Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 22:24:36 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Then you must not know who Rinse & Flux are. Because they sure as hell were spinning. I think you need to stop posting now , because you just sound stupider every time.Thanx. "your everyday junglist", who has seen it all now. Mikey >From: AlexG1029@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: the weekend review (Hi! and Acid Breaks) >Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 22:23:27 EDT > >what room were they in? i guess i must be trippin....i went to the "jungle >room" at around 1:30 and joshua jacob was still spinnin there (or was he?) >and when i went there agiain around 2:30 Ghostribe was there....or so i >think >were they in the room right by the front doors? cuz thats where i was >lookin >for them and never found em >i was sober too! > >PeAcE OuT > alEx =.) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 19:59:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18577 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 19:59:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 18566 invoked by uid 233); 4 May 1999 19:59:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 6990 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 06:23:59 -0000 Received: from law-f131.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.194) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 06:23:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 61994 invoked by uid 0); 4 May 1999 06:23:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19990504062332.61993.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.170.187.229 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 03 May 1999 23:23:31 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.170.187.229] From: "michael waldren" To: Aryck46@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Totally RR: Drug awareness/education, what will come to our scene??? Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 23:23:31 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Oh my god, i am so sorry Aryck, that was one of if not the most moving posts i have ever come across. I hope and pray that your friend is all right. I believe that ignorance is the furthest thing from Bliss. And i hope that each and every one of us can learn from that tragic tale. I was heavy into drugs myself for a while and i have to tell you that me being sober, has been the greatest experience ever. I am not going to be jugdeemental about this and i am not going to preach either, but i do want to tell everyone to do drugs in modesty. Mass amounts can only have negative effects.Some other raver donts would be... Dont take any type of water from anyone you dont know. Dont buy from a dealer you dont know. Dont buy anything other than pressed pills. Take as few as needed to feel good. But i can guarantee that it doesnt take any type of drugs to have a good time, and for a long time i did think that. It could never be further from the truth. I have had the most incredible experiences in the last sober month of my life, then i could ever recall. The funny thing is is that i do not recall anything when i am on drugs. Thanx for your time and i hope that you all can benefit from my post at least somewhat. signed a concerned Raver Against Drugs, "your everyday junglist" Mikey >From: Aryck46@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Totally RR: Drug awareness/education, what will come to our >scene??? >Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 01:55:39 EDT > > Sunday morning about 4 am, a friend of mine passed out on the >dancefloor of the disco bisquits party. about half an hour later she was in >the ER. She had no heart beat, and a faint pulse (if that makes any sense), >she didn't respond to pain, sounds, light, anything. . . she was in a coma. > Why was this 16 year old girl in a coma ? > Because she didn't know,. . . > >She's an intelligent girl, a bit rebellious (if you can believe a 16 year >old >being rebellious) and that night she wasn't really doing anything >diffirent. >When she got to the party, she took half a hit of e. . . not bad you think. >. >. cool, later she dropped some acid, no prob you say. . . a little while >later she drank some peppermint schnopps. . . getting a little perved you >say. . . but then this guy who she and her friend were talking to gave her >a >taste of this "liquid E" stuff. Now I know and you probably know what this >stuff was, but she didn't. About 15-20 mins later, she was unconcious. > Now no one ever told this young lady anything about anything called >liquid e. I've never heard of it, I've never seen it, it's possible I'm >sure >to make it, but I've also seen people mix like coc and heroin, and >mescaline, >and speed in a pill and call it e. And she never knew that even the >slightest amount af alcohol, and the slightest amount of GHB, could >possibly >kill her. > Was this event avoidable ? > Will this happen again ? > >Me and her boyfriend and my friend and her guy waited in the IC waiting >room >with her mother and mother's boyfriend. You just can't realize how things >like this hurt soooo many people until you see the pain it causes each and >every friend, relative, even people who barely know someone in a situation >like this. Of course since the mother didn't know me, she looked at me (not >in a nice way) when we showed up. > A few hours later, around 10 or 11, she began to regain conciousness. >Now I don't know how well she is to this moment, but I'm sure she has no >idea >where she was lastnight, she's probably forgotten other things, and >probably >done irreversible damage to herself. Nothing serious, but unnecessary >nonetheless. > > Now I've been thinking. Some people are into this sober raving thing. >Now I'm not the portrait of a sober raver or anything, though I'm not >un-sober all of the time either. But I totally feel that it would actually >be >a possibility to do what we can to educate our community (raver world) >about >the things they know little ort nothing of. With all of these younger and >younger people coming out along with all of these new and exotic drugs, do >you think that thay're going to automatically know that they shouldn't do >this, or mix this with this, or whatever. > I'm probably going to kinda continue with my not quite started yet >raver handbook thing and gather up all the info on drugs and such in the >scene as possible. Now I would actually like to eventually print hundreds >and >hundreds of copies of these little books and have booths at parties where >we >can have info on drugs, other things, and raver handbooks (or whatever they >would be called). Free of charge of course. I'd deal with the printing >part, >and I'm not totlally committed yet, but I'm getting closer and closer. (I'm >a >busy guy). > But please everyone, in the meantime, everyone please be responsible >and educate yourself and your friends, because honestly. . . I love each >and >every one of you who's words I've read, faces I've seen, voices I've heard >or >even just heard the name of. . . I care for you all even without really >knowing you because everyone is a person. . . everyone deserves their life, >some people blow it, and have to start over again, but the sweet ones are >supposed to last the longest, and the sours just dissolve away. . . > >I'de really like to hear some people's ideas on this. . . > >Take care all !!! > >HUGZzzzz > >Aryck > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 20:04:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22896 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 20:04:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 22885 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 20:04:05 -0000 Received: from ns2.divi.com (HELO kms.divi.com) (199.97.190.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 20:04:05 -0000 Received: from rmarm.divi.com by kms.divi.com (8.8.8/DiviCom-KMS) id NAA19898; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:03:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990504200333.00b664bc@kms> X-Sender: isaacl@kms X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 13:03:33 -0700 To: HppyXTC@aol.com From: Isaac Labugen Subject: Drug Awareness / Education? Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It appears that many of us have strong feelings about drugs and there use in this culture/society. I've always been one to say- "to each his/her own, you mind your own business and I'll mind mine". It seemed to sound so logical, what ever floats your boat, and what ever's clever (alright so I still say that one). However aside from all the other arguments about drugs, I like to talk about one I never see and hear. What about the damage drugs / over doses cause to our limited supply of venues. Everybody is always complaining about the limited number of venues we have, well when a 16 year old (who's with her boyfriend/ and friends) passes out because- oh I don't know....she only took Exstacy, Acid, GHB, and was drinking a little alcohols...Gee -Wonder why the cops and city officials chase us out of all these places. No biggie, she was just almost near death (and last I heard she was in intensive care), I'm sure that's the night everybody dreamed of. Let's go to a great party, get so wasted we almost die, ruin the vibe at the party, and damage the relationship between the venue and the city so no promoter can ever use it again. Folks I'm no reverend, but please be responsible. And if you see your friends making wrong decisions help them out, give them some guidance. We all have family's, and were all some one's brother, sister, nephew, cousin, or friend. If you don't care about your self, chances are some one really cares about you...peace, isaac At 01:02 PM 5/4/99 EDT, you wrote: >Drug use will always be a part of our culture (not just the rave scene). We >have already seen by the failed "War on Drugs" that elimating drug abuse is >impossible. What the whole country needs is drug AWARENESS. Making a >responsible decision to use a drug, is ok (in my opinion). But you have to >be RESPONSIBLE! Know what you are taking into your body. Know what >precautions you should take before you take the drug. Know what not to mix >with your drug (ie. E and antidepressants, alcohol and GHB). Most >importantly....USE DRUGS IN MODERATION! Getting f*cked up EVERY weekend is >NOT good for you. You only have one body. You screw it up now, and you are >forever going to be kicking yourself in the ass. There is a reason why these >drugs are illegal. It is because people ABUSE them. Of course, everyone is >taking a risk by using substances. But as we are hearing more and more, >people are OD'ing because of ignorance about the drug they are using. > >Drug Awareness booths are a good idea. I'm sure there are many organizations >that would provide information for anyone who was interested. > >But, I guess what I am trying to say, is think about what you are doing. I >personally, party sober most of the time. I do use drugs once in a while, >like on a special occasion or some situation where I feel it is going to be a >good experience for me. But, really, we have a very limited understanding of >the physical and pyschological effect of some of these drugs. Use them >carefully. Everyone's body is different and will react differently. It's a >gamble (a fun one, but a risk at the same time), so don't push your luck. >Please, everyone, for the sake of your friends, family and yourself, BE >CAREFUL! > >Love, Heather > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 20:04:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23840 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 20:04:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 23816 invoked by uid 233); 4 May 1999 20:04:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 20882 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 18:18:55 -0000 Received: from shell4.ba.best.com (giles@206.184.139.135) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 18:18:55 -0000 Received: from localhost (giles@localhost) by shell4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.sh) with ESMTP id LAA16718 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:18:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell4.ba.best.com: giles owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 11:18:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Giles Bowkett X-Sender: giles@shell4.ba.best.com To: SF Raves Subject: crazy question: spirituality list Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk anyone know of a raver spirituality list or something like it? random question, I know, but I'd be interested if one existed. (if I don't find one, would people be interested if I set one up?) pls reply to me personally, I'm not on the list anymore. --------] [-------- ------] giles@bowkett.com [------ ----] [---- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 20:17:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6290 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 20:17:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 6273 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 20:17:03 -0000 Received: from seidc.sei.com (198.202.174.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 20:17:03 -0000 Received: from sei.com (ntws18.sei.com [198.202.174.85]) by seidc.sei.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA13400; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <372F54A0.CF643FF8@sei.com> Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 13:12:17 -0700 From: Martin Randall Organization: SEI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ",,^. .^,," CC: MacBunny , Andrew Nourse , Carly Bourne , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: LITTLE KIDS AT PARTIES References: <015f01be9668$5d0311c0$7748f5d1@katskratcher> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I totally agree that it's irresponsible of parents to bring little kids to all-night parties (what are they *thinking*?!?). But I will say that one of my favorite memories of when we did the Harmony 3-year was when one of the crew loved the setup so much that she just *had* to go home and fetch her little daughter to come and see, and for just a little while she was dancing with the rest of us and having the time of her life. This was still early evening though, and she got tucked into bed before it got too late. And she was with her mom the whole time. Very sweet. - Martin =] ",,^. .^,," wrote: > I'm a parent.. of two even. And i have to say that i couldn't agree more.. > 12, 13, 14. ok. This to me is still a bit too young, but not nearly as > terrible as seeing a 7 year old at a party. I have a 6 year old and a two > year old. I do take them to daytime events, parties in the park, and so on > so that they can experience the things that i love, without the negative > effects. I live in LA, but i've taken frequent trips up to SF and taking my > eldest to a number of Sunsets. He loved it.. and it was beautiful to see the > response of all the people watching him dance. And he brought great energy > to the parties we visited. But NEVER will i EVER will i take my kids to a > UG. Not until they're well into their teens. > Obviously with the outbreaks of school shootings and teen pregnancies our > children are growing up too fast as is, i'm one of the earliest cases of > this, i had my first son at 17. in some ways i'm hypocritical on this > subject, i was doing drugs at a very young age, hangin out with people twice > my age,.. but look where it got me.. i'm poor, to the extent that i never > stop worrying about where the money will come from to feed my kids, I can't > just get some job that pays minimum wage, beause that'd only pay for the > daycare, so thats pointless, i can't afford to go to college, i have almost > no skills because i stayed home to raise my boys.... i'm 24 years old, and i > stay home all the time.. at this age, i should be able to go out to bars and > be with friends, or go shopping for shoes like most women my age, instead, i > hardly ever party, i give up having new clothes all the time so my kids are > well dressed and have shoes that fit... i'm from a generation where kids > weren't near as bad as they are now... what will the world be like when that > 7 year old Amber saw at that party grows up? > i shudder at the thought.. > i'm terribly sorry to ramble, but it frightens me to no end to see these > children at parties... i do hope promoters come up with some rule to stop > this before it gets any worse. > > ,,^. .^,, > > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 20:34:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17593 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 20:34:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 17490 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 20:34:17 -0000 Received: from mail.netzero.net (HELO l3serv10.netzero.net) (209.0.233.22) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 20:34:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 1272 invoked by uid 0); 4 May 1999 20:34:02 -0000 Received: from dialup-209.245.69.60.losangeles1.level3.net (HELO katskratcher) (209.245.69.60) by mail.netzero.net with SMTP; 4 May 1999 20:34:02 -0000 Message-ID: <028f01be966f$1d17fc40$7748f5d1@katskratcher> From: ",,^. .^,," To: "Martin Randall" Cc: "MacBunny" , "Andrew Nourse" , "Carly Bourne" , Subject: Re: LITTLE KIDS AT PARTIES Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 13:45:57 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk |I totally agree that it's irresponsible of parents to bring little kids to |all-night |parties (what are they *thinking*?!?). But I will say that one of my favorite |memories of when we did the Harmony 3-year was when one of the crew |loved the setup so much that she just *had* to go home and fetch her little |daughter to come and see, and for just a little while she was dancing with |the rest of us and having the time of her life. This was still early evening |though, and she got tucked into bed before it got too late. And she was |with her mom the whole time. Very sweet. | |- Martin =] Like i was saying, this is a beautiful thing, there's nothing more wonderful than sharing what you love with your children, even be it the rave scene, yet there's a definate line.. this mother seems to have known that and done exactly the right thing... props to her :o) NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 20:34:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17595 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 20:34:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 17487 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 20:34:17 -0000 Received: from mail-oak-2.pilot.net (HELO mail02-oak.pilot.net) (198.232.147.17) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 20:34:17 -0000 Received: from unknown-101-81.adecco.com (unknown-101-81.adecco.com [206.24.101.81] (may be forged)) by mail02-oak.pilot.net with ESMTP id NAA14141 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:34:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason.LEE@adecco.com Received: from boxster.hq.adia (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unknown-101-81.adecco.com with SMTP id NAA29928 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:34:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by boxster.hq.adia(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 88256767.00710019 ; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:34:15 -0700 X-Lotus-FromDomain: US_ADECCO To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <88256767.0070BA6E.00@boxster.hq.adia> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 13:33:50 -0700 Subject: Track Listings Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk here are 2 track listings, the others are on the way, --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Artist: Jason Lee Album: Sleepless 2 Category: mix --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 1: Tekara - Breathe In You (M&M Dub) [10:00] 2: CL McSpadden - Omni [7:01] 3: Cascade - Transcend (Trancentral Mix) [5:23] 4: Freefall - Skydive (Feat. Jan Johnston) [7:09] 5: Liquid Child '99 - Diving Faces (Thumper! Mix) [7:41] 6: Pink Bomb - Aftershock [7:10] 7: Humate - Love Stimulation (Oliver Lieb Softmix) [6:13] 8: Humate - Love Stimulation (Clubmix) [7:06] 9: Force Mass Motion - In To You (Dub) [5:50] 10: Hybrid - Altitude [5:28] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Artist: Jason Lee Album: Worlds Category: mix --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 1: Tilt - Children (Breeder's Baroque Dub) [9:01] 2: Boston Bruins - I Will Be Free (Original) [6:00] 3: Jez & Choopie - YIM (Hybrid's Sunrise Mix) [9:53] 4: Space Manoeuvres - Stage One (Seperation Mix) [5:26] 5: M.A.D. - Love (Original Mix) [8:15] 6: Jam & Spoon - Stella (Nalin & Kane Mix) [5:48] 7: The Argonauts - Frulingftag (Main Mix) [5:52] 8: Hybrid - Symphony (Original Mix) [10:22] 9: DJ Rap - Bad Girl (BT's Spoken Progenitor Mix) [8:55] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Maybe it will tame the curiosity Jason From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 20:50:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1371 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 20:50:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 1345 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 20:50:09 -0000 Received: from law-f152.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.215) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 20:50:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 70796 invoked by uid 0); 4 May 1999 20:50:06 -0000 Message-ID: <19990504205006.70795.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 170.20.137.132 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 04 May 1999 13:50:05 PDT X-Originating-IP: [170.20.137.132] From: "Alknod !" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR:NOT FUNNY! Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 13:50:05 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok, I am not happy now, I just got a death threat on my phone. First of all, has this guy even thought about *69? Let alone caller ID, dumb real dumb. Thing that sucks about that is this person left it on my home number, I don't get to find out who it is till I get home! My overriding concern is why this person feels the need to cause harm, not only to myself, but to himself, that he place himself in that negative space that would cause him to take such actions against another human being? Is it really worth it? Will he feel better about himself after he has carried out his plan of action? If he carries out his plan of action, what is left to do? There will be a void that can never be filled in his life unless he takes controll of his life and stops blaming others. The last thing I want to do is aggrivate this person, but I want them to know, if they are on this list or what ever, I certainly hope not, that this does not stop me from progressing in my life, In fact, I did not even flinch when I heard that message. I will not fight my destiny, even if it leeds me to my grave, I am not a violant man. DJ Alex Van Dune From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 20:58:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8587 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 20:58:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 8573 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 20:58:07 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 20:58:07 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (14398) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id uFUJa20662; Tue, 4 May 1999 16:56:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 16:56:51 EDT Subject: BSP:DJ Megatron in full effeck at a new time and day...on KALX BERKELEY To: dnb@breakbeat.co.uk, sf-jungle@saturn5.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk A MESSAGE FOR U SAN FRANCISCANZZZZ.... ok people its time once again to terrorize the airwaves with more tunez that will make u shit in your pants. no its not Dracula on the wheels of steel. its worse than the Mummy man. its not even as bad as the MASSIVE RAVE THUG LIFE KRU. and its far more scary than your mama who rollerblades naked with a half fro jerrycurl, a beeper hanging from her left nipple with the prince "purple rain" bandana, a luther vandross belt buckle, a wooden right leg with termites, an external metal plate on her head with a TWIST throw up piece in the metal plate and a half a nations hamburger stuck in her teeth..... oOoOoODJMEGATRONOoOoOoOo rollin in full effeck on a new day and at a new time. check me out on 90.7 fm kalx berkeley at 9:30am to 12 noon thursday mornings as i show u guys the way that the average joe shmoe dynamoe rips is on my great granddada's mixer(for those of u who been to the station before know what im talkin bout.) so if u guys are on your way to school, work, court, san quentin, a early morning bootie call, tai bo class, jazzersize, your baby mama house or even to neptune....make sure u guys check it out and all dat good shit. and if u dont like jungle, or even me then i got to words for u... ...well i think i can let DX discuss that with u guys next monday nite RAW! who:DJMEGATRON:mechasoul what:i am djing where:90.7fm kalx berkeley when:thursdays 9:30am to 12 noon why: because the MEGATRON says KNOW YOUR DAMN ROLE!!! how: with records...and if u thought i do my thing on CDS then u can........ .............CEEEEEEEEEDEEEEEEEEEEENUTZZZZZZZZZZZZ DJMEGATRON:mecasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 21:06:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13711 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 21:06:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 13651 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 21:06:17 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 21:06:17 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (14398) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id uOZQa27693; Tue, 4 May 1999 17:04:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <1f71b30a.2460baf3@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 17:04:51 EDT Subject: Re: BSP:DJ Megatron in full effeck at a new time and day...on KALXBERKELEY To: Megatron45@aol.com, dnb@breakbeat.co.uk, sf-jungle@saturn5.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk there is a typo....i ment that i am far more dangerous than the MASSIVE RAVE THUG LIFE CREW. if u dont belive me check my credentials. i killed otimus prime =) DJMEGATRON:mechasoul ps...if u take me serious then i u better check yourself into the SMACKDOWN HOTEL. its all entertainment baybEE..... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 21:07:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14475 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 21:07:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 14465 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 21:07:03 -0000 Received: from f54.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 21:07:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 42573 invoked by uid 0); 4 May 1999 21:06:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990504210636.42572.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 04 May 1999 14:06:36 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: Macias20@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!! Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 14:06:36 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hehehe Yes it is my Birthday and today I turn... Well that will remain a Mystre. See ya, Macadio >From: Macias20@aol.com >To: macadio@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!! >Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:59:28 EDT > >If im not mistaken... today's MACADIO"S BIRTHDAY.. YAY!!!!! if it is... >happy >birthday :) if it isn't... well have a great un-birthday too :) See ya at >FIRST LIGHT... valerie AKA sparkles From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 21:20:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19864 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 21:20:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 19837 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 21:20:18 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 21:20:18 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (14398) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vIMDa17021 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 17:18:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 17:18:14 EDT Subject: NRR: things that are irritating people at the moment. To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well its about that time to fill up all of your raver mailboxes with some NRR bizness. what is everyone irritated by in real life at the moment? (dont say me or i will fart in your house when u have company and blame it on u =) for me it has to be those damn phone companies. MCI calls my house quite frequently asking me to switch over to them and leave at&t. man they dont get it when u say no the first time either. they have to talk your ear off about they can do this and that and their whole life story. goodness i dont get phone calls as it is and me being excited that my phone is ringing hoping its that girl i had a crush on in high school who i left my phone # in her year book 2 and 1/2 years ago goes to the toilet when i find out its Scooter from MCI WORLDCOM telling me how he can save me money. BLAH DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 21:21:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21011 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 21:21:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 20991 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 21:21:02 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 21:21:02 -0000 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.9.3/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA19166 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 14:21:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:21:01 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-Sender: andy@atari To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: [bsp] s/he*BANG line-up.... (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk <> here it is freeeks.........the line up that yuve all been waiting for... amber * epiphany forest green * cloudfactory/sister XJS * sister/epiphany/biologic melanie * see you all there! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 21:29:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28937 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 21:29:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 28929 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 21:29:52 -0000 Received: from dilbert.ucdavis.edu (root@169.237.105.33) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 21:29:52 -0000 Received: from localhost (ez060343@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dilbert.ucdavis.edu (8.9.3/UCD3.13.10) with ESMTP id OAA14596; Tue, 4 May 1999 14:29:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:29:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Kenneth Zanotto X-Sender: ez060343@dilbert.ucdavis.edu To: Megatron45@aol.com cc: dnb@breakbeat.co.uk, sf-jungle@saturn5.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: BSP:DJ Megatron in full effeck at a new time and day...on KALX BERKELEY In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk DX...yo the DX looks like its on the way out after last night's fiasco. To everyone else though, KNOW YOUR ROLE and check out the show or get checked into the SMACKDOWN HOTEL. Peace Ken From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 21:31:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1029 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 21:31:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 844 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 21:31:33 -0000 Received: from web803.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.63) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 21:31:33 -0000 Message-ID: <19990504213647.17008.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.99] by web803.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 04 May 1999 14:36:47 PDT Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:36:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!! To: "Macadio G." , Macias20@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk YEAH!!! Happy birthday wackymackytaurus mackDADio... --and i too will see you (finally) at first light!! Love, Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 21:35:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3980 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 21:35:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 3781 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 21:35:50 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 21:35:50 -0000 Received: from Oct1faith@aol.com (7812) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHa0004815 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 17:35:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Oct1faith@aol.com Message-ID: <9b3ca954.2460c1fe@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 17:34:54 EDT Subject: Fwd: balance, honey, sunshine daydream & more.... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_9b3ca954.2460c1fe_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_9b3ca954.2460c1fe_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_9b3ca954.2460c1fe_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: Oct1faith@aol.com From: Oct1faith@aol.com Full-name: Oct1faith Message-ID: <9b3ca954.2460c131@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 17:31:29 EDT Subject: Re: balance, honey, sunshine daydream & more.... To: jakeloco@rocketmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 In a message dated 5/3/99 12:05:03 PM EST, jakeloco@rocketmail.com writes: > ****** WARNING ***** 715 HARRISON IS SERIOUS ABOUT > THEIR ANTI-DRUG POLICIES. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO BRING > ANY CONTROLLED OR PERSCRIPTIVE SUBSTANCES INSIDE. I > LEARNED THE HARD WAY. > > that said, i would also like to say that i did not > suffer any ill consequences as a result of my poor > judgement and i was treated with respect. > Thanks alot for not dogging the Door Staff at City Nights(Sunshine daydream). It took me months to get them cool about thing and not BEAT PEOPLE UP like they have to do on their Friday an Saturday. City Nights an Soundfactory are own by the same man. When Soundfactory got busted because a DJ was selling E out of the Dj booth, the owner got very strict about drugs in his clubs. He know they are watching him. An since Big Heart City got busted he has tightin up ship even more. If you want to get mad at someone GET MAD AT THE GUY WHO WAS CHOPPIN UP LINES ON THE BACK STAIRWAY that was the last straw for Door staff. peace, Blackstone PS. be smart with your drugs OK --part1_9b3ca954.2460c1fe_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 21:46:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12503 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 21:46:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 12492 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 21:46:28 -0000 Received: from web132.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.175) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 21:46:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19990504214740.29529.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.54.106] by web132.yahoomail.com; Tue, 04 May 1999 14:47:40 PDT Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:47:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: BSP: Line up for next 916JUNGLIST To: SF Ravers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk If you haven't been here, just ask anybody who has. 916JUNGLIST is the fastest growing jungle club in Sac history. As we move into the Summer of '99 prepare yourself for a new level of junglism. 2 rooms of new sounds from the nations top Djs. ---Billy Lane (aka B•Side) Friday May 14 (9PM-3AM) 916JUNGLIST presents . . . UFO! (SF-PHUNCKATECK / GREEN LABEL) SQUIRT (DALLAS,TX - 32 DEGREES CREW / VESTAX) YOUNGBLOOD (NEW ORLEANS, LA)Westcoast debut plus local favorites Billy Lane Dre Mo DJM Sepe Location: 3230 Orange Grove Dr Info Line: 916.971.1188 Cost: $7 ALL AGES WELCOME From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 21:55:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17282 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 21:55:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 17263 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 21:55:14 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 21:55:14 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com (14443) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vFQJa26070 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 17:54:35 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: <3d4a59f4.2460c69a@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 17:54:34 EDT Subject: sober raving and "know" books To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ever since.....ravers r us i guess i have dropped e at every party i went to. its been twice a month and a very fun time. then this last party at vibe creations i made my friend promise me we would both go sober. when im on e i like to sit and relax and explore. yesh it does help me to relax and be truly one with everyone but i also hate it when i get bored of dancing after 5 minutes. I began to feel like i was losing my rave spirit and only going for the e. well at vibe creations i danced. i danced and jumped and screamed and pranced and skipped and made friends and a few times i had to remind myself that i was sober. i actually wondered halfway thru the nite why my jaw wasnt clenching?! um....duh! it was the bestest party in a while cause i was more aware of all the people and not focused on my e and everything. i enjoy e and sober raving for different reasons and have decided to only e when its a really special occasion (YAY NO MORE MONEY PROBLEMS!) second i think that the "raver handbook" is the most kick ass idea evah! I am totally willing to help put it together. i havent been in the scene for a looooooooong time but i feel like i should contribute something! i will draw pictures or write stories or anything but i wanna help out on this (i need motivation!) it kinda scares me that arycks friend didnt know about ghb. i knew about it before i dropped my first e. i knew alot about e before i did it. i knew alot about raving before i went. i always study up on the things i dont know about and am gonna try. i dont like being unprepaired. And to think that she was unprepaired makes me scared. i kNOW theres more kids out there that say "GH what?!" and i want to do my part to let em know about it. -aaron (orion) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 21:56:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18451 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 21:56:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 18429 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 21:56:42 -0000 Received: from fletch.fix.net (telkionish@206.190.71.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 21:56:42 -0000 Received: from localhost (telkionish@localhost) by fletch.fix.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA09470; Tue, 4 May 1999 14:57:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:57:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Adair To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sacraves@hyperreal.org Subject: SLO Kidz Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Sorry for the crosslist.. I know there are a few college kidz out there on the lists that go to Cal Poly... I wanted to let everybody stuck in San Luis Obispo, and wants something cool to do this saturday night know about something going on... If you are interested, email me privately.. GregerE reply to gadair@calpoly.edu From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 22:10:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26748 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 22:09:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 26726 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 22:09:52 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 22:09:52 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com (14443) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vOXWa16059 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 18:08:19 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: <29d41075.2460c9db@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 18:08:27 EDT Subject: Re: Pre-Sale Tickets (happykids) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk speaking o f the happykids fiasco whats up with that?! i sent in my ticket and the voice mail said theyd call or mail me when their next party came up and id be on the guest list.......uh......soo whens the party? i want my 20$ *sniff* -aaron (orion) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 22:18:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6030 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 22:18:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 6012 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 22:18:01 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 22:18:01 -0000 Received: from BreAthNYoO@aol.com (3878) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vZTKa04814 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 18:15:52 -0400 (EDT) From: BreAthNYoO@aol.com Message-ID: <7a382a8a.2460cb86@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 18:15:34 EDT Subject: NRR: who is ....... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Question.. on our rave list.. Who is SanFrnRave??? Maybe you yourself can answer that.. i was just wondering- youve left some intresting posts :=) Love andlight eSs From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 22:22:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8937 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 22:22:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 8856 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 22:22:54 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 22:22:54 -0000 Received: from PlurDealer@aol.com (8013) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vRAWa24056 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 18:20:57 -0400 (EDT) From: PlurDealer@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 18:20:56 EDT Subject: Re: NRR:NOT FUNNY! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HAHAHAHAHA! ! ! That was absolutely hillarious, you should write a column <<>> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 22:25:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11130 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 22:25:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 11121 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 22:25:41 -0000 Received: from web706.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.26) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 22:25:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19990504222533.16911.rocketmail@web706.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.242.20.101] by web706.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 04 May 1999 15:25:33 PDT Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 15:25:33 -0700 (PDT) From: mike bolger Subject: dubtribe ? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i guess they just got back from their tour and according to their web page they were suppose to be doing a free show in golden gate park last sunday, but those guys haven't been all that lucky when it comes to doing free outdoor local daytime shows as of late. i still think they should hook up with the sunset crew, either for a boat party or for one of the yueba buena gardens shows. that would be a solid event. but they're suppose to be performing at come-unity tonight and at 1015 again on thursday. i don't really go to 1015 anymore, but if anyone else does they should ask them what their future plans are. i mean, sfravers do talk to people outside of their artificall little world, right ? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 22:38:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19254 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 22:38:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 19129 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 22:38:11 -0000 Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.12) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 22:38:11 -0000 Received: from [209.179.158.4] (pool004-cvx.ds55-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.158.4]) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29407; Tue, 4 May 1999 15:38:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: radley@mail.elemental.nu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990504222533.16911.rocketmail@web706.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 15:38:38 -0700 To: mike bolger From: Radley Marx Subject: Re: dubtribe ? Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >but they're suppose to be performing at come-unity tonight and at 1015 >again on thursday. i don't really go to 1015 anymore, but if anyone >else does they should ask them what their future plans are. i mean, >sfravers do talk to people outside of their artificall little world, >right ? Oh you are a "believer." Yes Mike, there is another world outside of what you and I call "the scene." It is an amazing, complex world filled with people that can look just like you and me... but they can't dance so who cares. -r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 22:43:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22872 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 22:43:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 22853 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 22:43:27 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 22:43:27 -0000 Received: from TriXXXXe4@aol.com (14415) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vMJDa24046 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 18:42:00 -0400 (EDT) From: TriXXXXe4@aol.com Message-ID: <66f0f280.2460d1b7@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 18:41:59 EDT Subject: * does your E last long?* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk someone sent me this and i thought it was cute =) linz > "DOES YOUR "E" LAST LONG" ..... >(SUNG 2 THE MELODY OF "DO YOUR EARS HANG LOW") > >DOES YOUR "E" LAST LONG? >DOES IT FEEL LIKE NOTHING'S WRONG? >DOES IT MAKE U TALK REAL FAST, DOES IT MAKE YOU TALK REAL SLOW? >DO U FORGET WHAT YOU SAID? >DO YOUR EYES ROLL IN YOUR HEAD? >DOES YOUR "E" LAST LONG? > >DOES YOUR "E" FEEL GOOD? >DO YOU FEEL THE WAY YOU SHOULD? >DOES YOUR JAW FEEL LOCKED? >DO YOU THINK YOUR WEEKEND ROCKED? >DO YOU LOVE EVERYONE YOU SEE? >DO YOU DRINK UNTIL YOU PEE? >DOES YOUR "E" FEEL GOOD? > >DID YOUR "E" LAST LONG >DID IT MAKE YOU SING THIS SONG? >WERE YOU CRAVING IT ALL THIS TIME, THAT IT'S ENOUGH TO COMMIT A CRIME? >DO YOU SAVE MONEY ALL WEEK? >CAUSE YOUR ADDICTED AS WE SPEAK? >DOES YOUR "E" LAST LONG? > >"E" IS LIKE PRINGLES ONCE YOU POP ONE U CAN'T STOP! SO IF YOU WANT A >SEND THIS TO EVERYONE ON YOUR BUDDY LIST OR ...U WILL NEVER DROP GOOD "E" >AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! >!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 22:48:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26768 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 22:48:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 26495 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 22:48:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 22:48:29 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 268; Tue, 4 May 1999 15:46:35 -0700 Message-ID: <372F7C8F.4C4A63DF@hrg.com> Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 16:02:39 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Niels P. Mayer" CC: San FranDisco Ravers List Subject: Re: drool (SRM-450 techno-lust and friend to renegade soundsystems everywhere) References: <199904292333.QAA23849@mail.netwiz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I wonder how these would hold up against the JBL EONs.... john r Niels P. Mayer wrote: > The SRM-450's here! SRM-450's here! > 450 watts of biamplified active servo'd PA speaker w/ built in power amps. > self contained. 50 pounds. > > This is going to make life easier for renegade throwers, and will probably > sound a hell of a lot better than most systems you've heard so far. Very > cool. Has anybody heard these yet? > > http://www.mackie.com/Products/SRM450.asp > http://www.mackie.com/Products/Specifications/SRM450Specs.asp > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << > >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 23:06:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5650 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 23:06:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 5641 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 23:06:49 -0000 Received: from web706.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.26) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 23:06:49 -0000 Message-ID: <19990504230641.25684.rocketmail@web706.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.242.20.101] by web706.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 04 May 1999 16:06:41 PDT Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 16:06:41 -0700 (PDT) From: mike bolger Subject: Re: dubtribe ? To: Radley Marx Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > Oh you are a "believer." > > Yes Mike, there is another world outside of what you > and I call "the scene." It is an amazing, complex > world filled with people that can look just like you > and me... > > but they can't dance so who cares. sfraves has always had a pretty crippled dance, at least for the 4+ years that i've been on the list, but i've never held that against them. the may sound kind of cruel, but life on the dancefloor is very blunt. either you got moves or you don't. hey, good luck on your free party this saturday - > > -r > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 23:20:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16019 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 23:20:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 16011 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 23:20:22 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 23:20:22 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-190.dsp.com [204.118.76.190]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA25587 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 16:20:20 -0700 Message-Id: <199905042320.QAA25587@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 16:19:56 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: NRRR(not really RR): fun with Star Wars toys Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have stopped guffawing loudly just long enough to post this. Nuh uh, this is too funny: http://www.kibo.com/photos/ esp http://www.kibo.com/photos/toys_1_star_wars/ Enjoy, Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 23:21:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18324 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 23:21:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 18067 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 23:21:28 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 23:21:28 -0000 Received: from Brikne@aol.com (14436) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vVTOa20904 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 19:19:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Brikne@aol.com Message-ID: <38a8083d.2460da89@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 19:19:37 EDT Subject: about hippie raves To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk you know, some of my best friends are hippies.. and i love them for that. the dreads and the batuli (sp?) smell, not to mention all the wonderful lose clothing.. is just there version of candy on a candy raver. and i like that raves have differnt flavors... hippie raves, beach raves, massives, small parties... they all help to add an element of individuality. afterall, a change is as good as a rest. and if any one wnet to spaz's last party, now THAT was a hippie party, and it was FUCKING great! cheers and hugs, Brian From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 23:25:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21306 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 23:25:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 21289 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 23:25:11 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 23:25:11 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (7991) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 7TMUa10991; Tue, 4 May 1999 19:22:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <6b923ce2.2460db53@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 19:22:59 EDT Subject: Re: review: Blue Room party in SF To: retch@io.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Was this saturday ? The blue room was where the after party of the Million marijuana was beiong held after the march sat. . . that'd probably explain a couple things. . . HUGZzzz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 23:31:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25429 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 23:31:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 25410 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 23:30:58 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd106.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.170) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 23:30:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 38877 invoked by uid 0); 4 May 1999 23:30:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19990504233031.38876.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 159.37.7.11 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 04 May 1999 16:30:31 PDT X-Originating-IP: [159.37.7.11] From: "Lucy Fur" To: maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU, sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com Subject: Re: Doc Scott and Justiyc @Density Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 16:30:31 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk that's what i'm saying. first last wednesday...i mean kung fu knowledge and that few people???, and now doc scott? i couldn't believe my eyes when i walked in the venue. very disappointing for this jungle scene that is supposedly so up and coming. where was everyone??? mg ::headshake:: > >yo, first off, where the hell was everyone? > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 23:35:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27704 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 23:35:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 27683 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 23:35:09 -0000 Received: from vm4-ext.prodigy.net (207.115.59.137) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 23:35:09 -0000 Received: from prodigy.net (SNFCB210-16.splitrock.net [209.156.149.131]) by vm4-ext.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA153240; Tue, 4 May 1999 19:34:51 -0400 Message-ID: <372F836F.37EEAB40@prodigy.net> Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 16:31:59 -0700 From: JOELANZON Reply-To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: johnr@hrg.com CC: "Niels P. Mayer" , San FranDisco Ravers List Subject: Re: drool (SRM-450 techno-lust and friend to renegade soundsystems everywhere) References: <199904292333.QAA23849@mail.netwiz.net> <372F7C8F.4C4A63DF@hrg.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Anything from Mackie kicks ass! I wish I could trade my Event Studio monitors in for a pair of these for my pad. But alas I don't think the neighbors would appreciate it too much. I'm already rattling the windows : D -peace- Joe Lanzon John Rodriguez wrote: > I wonder how these would hold up against the JBL EONs.... > > john r > > Niels P. Mayer wrote: > > > The SRM-450's here! SRM-450's here! > > 450 watts of biamplified active servo'd PA speaker w/ built in power amps. > > self contained. 50 pounds. > > > > This is going to make life easier for renegade throwers, and will probably > > sound a hell of a lot better than most systems you've heard so far. Very > > cool. Has anybody heard these yet? > > > > http://www.mackie.com/Products/SRM450.asp > > http://www.mackie.com/Products/Specifications/SRM450Specs.asp > > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << > > >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > -- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 23:38:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 420 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 23:38:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 391 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 23:38:09 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 23:38:09 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (7991) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id oFBNa24056; Tue, 4 May 1999 19:27:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <2f683c9f.2460dc55@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 19:27:17 EDT Subject: Re: Totally RR: Drug awareness/education, what will come to ourscene ??? To: standish@sfsu.edu CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok then, well what if you just told them that. . . seriously, one hit. . . one time. . . if you ever mix GHB and Alcohol you most definately WILL go into a coma in which the odds are totally against your favor of maybe possibly surviving. would that get their attention maybe ? If they're old enough to understand big words. . . HUGZzzz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 23:42:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4649 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 23:42:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 4637 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 23:42:28 -0000 Received: from law-f138.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.201) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 23:42:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 68016 invoked by uid 0); 4 May 1999 23:42:01 -0000 Message-ID: <19990504234201.68015.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 170.20.137.132 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 04 May 1999 16:42:01 PDT X-Originating-IP: [170.20.137.132] From: "Alknod !" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR:NOT FUNNY! Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 16:42:01 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hehe, you know your right, this is real funny, somone not too bright about what he does with his life is sooo halarious, I suppose one can find levity in just about any situation that is presented a person. Its a natural reaction of the human body in order that it not go into complete shock so laugh it up, a shot of vodka would do well right at this moment, damn one has to work till late, oh well, guess I'll take up smoking instead! Dj Alex Van Dune >From: PlurDealer@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: NRR:NOT FUNNY! >Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 18:20:56 EDT > >HAHAHAHAHA! ! ! That was absolutely hillarious, you should write a column > > ><<all, >has this guy even thought about *69? Let alone caller ID, dumb real dumb. >Thing that sucks about that is this person left it on my home number, I >don't get to find out who it is till I get home! My overriding concern is >why this person feels the need to cause harm, not only to myself, but to >himself, that he place himself in that negative space that would cause him >to take such actions against another human being? Is it really worth it? >Will he feel better about himself after he has carried out his plan of >action? If he carries out his plan of action, what is left to do? There >will >be a void that can never be filled in his life unless he takes controll of >his life and stops blaming others. The last thing I want to do is aggrivate >this person, but I want them to know, if they are on this list or what >ever, >I certainly hope not, that this does not stop me from progressing in my >life, In fact, I did not even flinch when I heard that message. I will not >fight my destiny, even if it leeds me to my grave, I am not a violant man. > > >DJ Alex Van Dune>>> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 23:43:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5473 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 23:43:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 5446 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 23:42:59 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 23:42:59 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (7991) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3VZGa13120 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 19:40:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <99fe4f55.2460df75@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 19:40:37 EDT Subject: Re: peer pressure can be good... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Really though, a rave is like the only place you can argue with a drug dealer. . . some even give refunds. . . I usually watch out for things like that with my frieds and all, but I usually know like at least half the people selling e at most parties. . . it's the shady ones you gotta watch out for. You know which ones are kinda shady right ? Beady little eyes. . . moves around quickly. . . hides in the shadows. . . The cool drug dealer talks to you and kinda hangs for a while, or is the kind of person who when they see you later on in the night like give you a hug or ask how you're doing, having fun, etc. . . in the awareness book there should be like a drawn picture of the shady drug dealer, and a nice one. . . and have like little biographies or whatever about them. . . probably not actually, but it's kind of interesting. . . makes it not so uninteresting. . . LuvYalL Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 23:46:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10519 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 23:46:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 10510 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 23:46:36 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 23:46:36 -0000 Received: from BluSnday@aol.com (315) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vDVa017022 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 19:45:17 -0400 (EDT) From: BluSnday@aol.com Message-ID: <2f673572.2460e07f@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 19:45:03 EDT Subject: Japanese Drum Machine Wrist Watch =P To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=97909226&tc=photo128 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 23:47:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11359 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 23:46:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 11174 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 23:46:53 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 23:46:53 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA18438; Tue, 4 May 1999 16:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990504165106.007f0e30@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 16:51:06 -0700 To: Brikne@aol.com From: Carly Bourne Subject: Re: about hippie raves Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <38a8083d.2460da89@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 07:19 PM 5/4/99 EDT, you wrote: >you know, some of my best friends are hippies.. and i love them for that. >the dreads and the batuli (sp?) smell, not to mention all the wonderful lose patchouli (i think)... I love that smell :) Love, Carly > *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 23:48:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13036 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 23:48:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 13001 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 23:47:55 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 23:47:55 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (7991) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3UNPa03426 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 19:44:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 19:44:42 EDT Subject: Re: All about me... I'm glad to meet cha To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk If you have that again could you please re-send your thing and those pics ? Happy to make your acquaintance. . . I hope you have a wonderful day and, dont stress the little stuff. . . LuvYA Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 23:49:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13866 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 23:48:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 13847 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 23:48:49 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 23:48:49 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-a2 (mmf3.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.66]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA16185; Tue, 4 May 1999 16:48:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905042348.QAA16185@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: goodvibe@geocities.com From: "Rafie" Subject: Re: METROPOLIS: if yur goin, read this first :) CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 16:52:47 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am not! I am just festively plump. Rafie On Tue, 04 May 1999 06:14:47 -0700, goodvibe@geocities.com wrote... >HELLO!!! All raves are Gay!!! Raves are the gayest thing alive. I swear! >They should be called Gayvers, not ravers. No one raves anymore.. >everyone just acts hella gay! >Gay people are evil. Gay people like to eat dogs and mexican people! >=Paul*E*Wog >P.S. Rafie is Gay! > > >What is a dic-so bunny wrote: >> >> Okay...i'm STILL going to Metropolis, but i'd just >> thought i'd let you guys know that it is a "gay" rave. >> Just check out this website: >> >> http://www.guspresents.com >> >> Someone told me that it was...but i didn't believe it >> until i checked out this site. >> >> Please don't take this email out of context...i'm not >> trying to persuade anyone to go to it and i'm not >> telling you to stay home, but if you're uncomfortable >> with it...maybe you should reconsider. >> >> sherri :) >> >> P.S. Hope to see some of you guys out at the M&M >> March ;p tomorrow!!! >> >> === >> Fievel and Dinky Little SUCK DONKEY > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 23:49:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15460 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 23:49:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 15443 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 23:49:55 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?gMxtIjjhLkRuGyEnBbQCiC4NTgvFFuu4?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 23:49:55 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id QAA03418; Tue, 4 May 1999 16:49:51 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 16:49:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: Lucy Fur cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com Subject: Re: Doc Scott and Justiyc @Density In-Reply-To: <19990504233031.38876.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 4 May 1999, Lucy Fur wrote: > that's what i'm saying. first last wednesday...i mean kung fu knowledge and > that few people???, and now doc scott? i couldn't believe my eyes when i > walked in the venue. very disappointing for this jungle scene that is > supposedly so up and coming. where was everyone??? I thought Kung Fu was decently stocked with people. 1) that place holds like at least 1000 people I think. 2) there was like NO time to promote, because the Eklektic/Groundscore/Density triarchy booked it like two weeks before it was going to happen. but what happened last night at Justice League was insulting. Doc Scott is a fucking legend in his own time. I am not bitter. I got to pass the mic to my idol, and then get properly swervated with the true blues. Big up Rinse fi de wardrobe addition. So anyways, I dunno. You can't be on fire every night. And I think maybe also a lot of people didn't go because they are saving money or energy for 4 Hero tonight (and of course the old school rinse-out at Phuncktion BOH BOH) and Planet V tomorrow. who knows. I would have ridden my bike from Berkeley to see the Doc Scott and Justiyc. ARE YOU AS HARDCORE AS ME. =D 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 23:50:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16135 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 23:50:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 15924 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 23:50:07 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 23:50:07 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (7991) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3XNVa08652; Tue, 4 May 1999 19:49:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 19:49:20 EDT Subject: Re: Totally RR: Drug awareness/education, what will come to our scene??? To: Sera13@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/4/99 12:12:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Sera13 writes: << i know some trees would be pissed if they were cut down for a handbook on raving.. >> Dude. . if I was a tree and some funky pine smelling hair guy chopped me down and made me into some type of book for ravers that ravers would probably save for years. . . I would be one pimp ass macdaddy of a tree. . . Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 04 23:50:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16814 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 23:50:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 16620 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 23:50:22 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 23:50:22 -0000 Received: from HppyXTC@aol.com (2706) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vKZBa20662 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 19:49:06 -0400 (EDT) From: HppyXTC@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 19:49:06 EDT Subject: Re: Totally RR: Drug awareness/education, what will come to ourscene??? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk But this is the kind of thing we need to stop. False information undermines the source from which it came. Look what happened with the DARE program. Scare tactics don't work. You will not necessarily go into a coma from mixing the two (you will get puking sick), but you still stand a high risk of doing so. What we need is the truth about the risks we take when we take drugs. No offense Eric. You know I love you. Love, Heather In a message dated Tue, 4 May 1999 7:38:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Aryck46@aol.com writes: > Ok then, well what if you just told them that. . . seriously, one hit. . . > one time. . . if you ever mix GHB and Alcohol you most definately WILL go > into a coma in which the odds are totally against your favor of maybe > possibly surviving. > > would that get their attention maybe ? > > If they're old enough to From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 00:03:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27640 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 00:03:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 27622 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 00:03:03 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 00:03:03 -0000 Received: from Brikne@aol.com (14436) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vIBZa08654 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 20:01:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Brikne@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 20:01:51 EDT Subject: about drug education and raving re:arycks poor friend To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk so i completly agree with drug education. the answer is not to take away the choice (by eliminating drugs at raves) but to educate the person trying to decide. knowledge=power. so a long time ago my dealer gave me a little flyer(looked juist like a rave ad) called "JUST SAY KNOW" it was so great. they had cards for every type of well used drug.. from ghb to meth to k. they were designed to be passed out along with the drug itself.. anyone ever seen these? it told all kinds of facts.. from how to take the drug to its danger level.. what it was doing to you body and what not to take it with. very smart if you ask me..... and so aryck... im glad your friend woke up. cheers and hugs, Brian From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 00:22:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9064 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 00:22:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 9023 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 00:22:47 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 00:22:47 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-a2 (mmf3.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.66]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA28396; Tue, 4 May 1999 17:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905050022.RAA28396@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: Sera13@aol.com From: "Rafie" Subject: Re: Totally RR: Drug awareness/education, what will come to our CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 17:26:34 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In the past responsible raving handbooks have been distributed at parties. They're very informative and worth saving-- I still have one at home. I believe a "Raver Handbook" concerns safe drug use, looks at what "PLUR" might mean, and discusses responsibility in general. They don't talk about how to make a winning candy bead pattern, or home base drama, or whether Jnco or Kikwear make the phatter pants (Jnco 80") *..If that's what you're weirded out about. It would be a good use of paper; paper is wasted for other purposes, like trashy romance novels, racist propaganda pamphlets, "The Bell Curve," and the bib-- ooops. Rafie On Tue, 4 May 1999 15:12:05 EDT, Sera13@aol.com wrote... >hmmmmmm...... >Raver handbook....did you say raver handbook......???? >What is this world coming to....raver handbook? >This shit happens......raver handbook????? >Haver randbook??????? >Use cotton paper if you want print mad copies of this DAVER bandrook, i >know >some trees would be pissed if they were cut down for a handbook on >raving.....I think if you feel really stong about the topic pull your >friends >aside and talk some sense into them, but remember we are all going to do >what >we want...raver handbook????????? >sorry, about your pal that is weak sauce. >I don't know about the raver handbook idea, it is thoughtful though. >Cherries, >Sera > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 00:32:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14744 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 00:32:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 14735 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 00:32:26 -0000 Received: from diana.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.239) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 00:32:26 -0000 Received: from [130.212.201.38] (madmax-38.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.38]) by diana.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA03221 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 17:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 17:22:19 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Michael Standish Subject: re:peer pressure can be good... Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk quoth leslie.ayres@excite.com >(First, slight apologies to michael standish who will have to convert my He he u R fUnNy. Hey, it's kinda fun to type like that. However it's hell to read, so out of respect (remember respect?) I'll never do it again. >And cuter too, don't you think? No! Why don't you just wear pigtails while you type? :) >At least I compose actual english >sentences, use correct grammar (usually), Word! Now if we can just get a few more people to write well. Giant sig added to protest against quoting entire threads. U UUUUUU U UUUUUUU UU U U UU UUUU lll i h h U UU U UU ll i hh UU UUU UU ll r r i c hh UU UUU UU ll rr rr ii ccc hh h UU UUU UU ll rrrr rr iii cccch hhhh UU UUU UU ll r rr ii cc c hhh UUU U U UU ll r ii cc hh UUU U UUU ll r ii cc hh UUUU U U UUUU ll rrr ii ccc h hh UUUUUU UUU llll rrrr iii cccc hhhh UUU U l r i c h h hh h From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 00:40:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17946 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 00:40:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 17643 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 00:40:34 -0000 Received: from netcom12.netcom.com (root@192.100.81.124) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 00:40:34 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom12.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id QAA08690; Tue, 4 May 1999 16:59:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 16:59:19 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Hippie Ravers and Dubtribe To: E-Bumpers By the Bay Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk speaking of hippie ravers and dubtribe, i was at a dubtribe show in LA and the power went out at one point. while everything was dark, a bunch of folks started banging drums and other stuff and hooting and yelling n'stuff. the guy next to me leaned over and said "I paid $15 for this hippie bullshit? I could get this for free on the quad of my local UC campus on any Saturday afternoon!" not really rave related or topic related, but seeing the threads on hippies and dubtribe made me think of it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 00:47:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21038 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 00:46:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 21030 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 00:46:55 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 00:46:55 -0000 Received: from Sera13@aol.com (323) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vUDAa27692; Tue, 4 May 1999 20:44:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Sera13@aol.com Message-ID: <6f95b264.2460ee65@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 20:44:21 EDT Subject: raver handbook..=0p To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, Aryck46@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Do you think this would work, though? Raver Handbook.....? This has been going on for the past six years I have been partying and unfortunately I do not think its going to stop. Drugs are too appealing to so many. I think it is a good idea to utilize your email and make people aware of the situation that happened to your pal. Also, I fuck with everyone who wants to make pamphlets, flyers or whatever out of paper....not many think of cotton or post consumer products. Save a tree Aryck(I like that spelling by the way)! Cherries, Sera From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 00:50:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23828 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 00:50:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 23560 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 00:50:05 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 00:50:05 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-a2 (mmf3.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.66]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA18555; Tue, 4 May 1999 17:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905050049.RAA18555@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: jw@wgdsearch.com From: "Rafie" Subject: RE: NRRR(not really RR): fun with Star Wars toys CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 17:53:52 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ROFL!! This shiznit is too too funny. I love bored jaded college kids. Check it out. Rafie On Tue, 04 May 1999 16:19:56 -0700, jw@wgdsearch.com wrote... >I have stopped guffawing loudly just long enough to post this. >Nuh uh, this is too funny: > >http://www.kibo.com/photos/ > >esp > >http://www.kibo.com/photos/toys_1_star_wars/ > >Enjoy, > >Jessica > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 01:03:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6436 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 01:03:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 6358 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 01:03:31 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 01:03:31 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-a2 (mmf3.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.66]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA08091; Tue, 4 May 1999 18:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905050103.SAA08091@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: Sera13@aol.com From: "Rafie" Subject: RE: raver handbook..=0p CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 18:07:18 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk No, there is nothing anyone could do to make raves completely drug-free, violence-free, drama-free, etc etc. But distributing thoughtful advice that is easy and quick to read, to people that look like they would read it, is still a good idea. Everytime I hear someone ask me or someone nearby if we have any nitrous, I wish I had a little card to hand them that says "Hi. Did you know that everytime you suck on a few N20 balloons, you're doing a lot of brain damage? Is 2 minutes worth it? Please keep this card." RE: saving trees Maybe make pamphlets out of recycled paper from all the dirty flyers left on the ground? :) Rafie On Tue, 4 May 1999 20:44:21 EDT, Sera13@aol.com wrote... >Do you think this would work, though? >Raver Handbook.....? >This has been going on for the past six years I have been partying and >unfortunately I do not think its going to stop. Drugs are too appealing to >so >many. I think it is a good idea to utilize your email and make people >aware >of the situation that happened to your pal. Also, I fuck with everyone who >wants to make pamphlets, flyers or whatever out of paper....not many think >of >cotton or post consumer products. >Save a tree Aryck(I like that spelling by the way)! >Cherries, >Sera > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 01:22:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16913 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 01:22:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 16904 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 01:22:13 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 01:22:13 -0000 Received: from Sera13@aol.com (8025) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3EHAa20663 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 21:19:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Sera13@aol.com Message-ID: <5c704222.2460f692@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 21:19:14 EDT Subject: Mickey where are you? Can anyone help? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I was curious to know how the old time peeps were doing...its been about three years now? Mickey, Ron, and Stephanie are maybe in SF and Jasmine was @ UW last time I checked....... happy day. Cherries, Sera From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 01:33:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21507 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 01:33:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 21484 invoked by uid 233); 5 May 1999 01:32:59 -0000 Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 18:32:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Lara To: Megatron45@aol.com cc: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: things that are irritating people at the moment. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Heheheh :) Megatron the grass isn't greener on the other side either -- if you DO go and switch to MCI, ATT will just harass you to no end like they did me. A tip for you though -- next time they do this to you, tell them you consider it a form of harassment and ask them to PLEASE REMOVE YOU FROM THEIR PHONING LISTS. Ask clearly and specifically, and by law they HAVE TO REMOVE YOU -- otherwise you can sue their asses if you want. On a sidenote, my annoyance is being totally behind on life (SFR included) because of work and having to catch up! ;D Love, Lara ---- "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." -- Oscar Wilde On Tue, 4 May 1999 Megatron45@aol.com wrote: > well its about that time to fill up all of your raver mailboxes with some NRR > bizness. what is everyone irritated by in real life at the moment? (dont say > me or i will fart in your house when u have company and blame it on u =) > > for me it has to be those damn phone companies. MCI calls my house quite > frequently asking me to switch over to them and leave at&t. man they dont get > it when u say no the first time either. they have to talk your ear off about > they can do this and that and their whole life story. goodness i dont get > phone calls as it is and me being excited that my phone is ringing hoping its > that girl i had a crush on in high school who i left my phone # in her year > book 2 and 1/2 years ago goes to the toilet when i find out its Scooter from > MCI WORLDCOM telling me how he can save me money. BLAH > > DJMEGATRON:mechasoul > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 01:47:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29166 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 01:47:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 29158 invoked by uid 233); 5 May 1999 01:47:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 28428 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 00:03:55 -0000 Received: from law2-f57.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.57) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 00:03:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 21210 invoked by uid 0); 5 May 1999 00:03:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19990505000328.21209.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.142.41.207 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 04 May 1999 17:03:28 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.142.41.207] From: "Sharalee Baumgarner" To: chocolate976@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: the weekend review (Hi! and Acid Breaks) Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 17:03:28 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk How come a lot of the people on here are so mean sometimes? I've never raved a lot. I have actually only been to one rave. A lot of my friends are ravers and they wanted me to sign up to this to see what was going on around Sac/SanFran, and just because someone is unknowledged about something, doesn't mean they're a reject. I've been made mean to a couple of times on here too, and it feels like shit. It's not my fault... It's nobodie's fault, and if you people really want me off this list, just tell me. Cuz I almost want off it myself. Only three people on here are nice to me. :( ~~sad sharalee >From: "michael waldren" >To: AlexG1029@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: the weekend review (Hi! and Acid Breaks) >Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 22:24:36 PDT > >Then you must not know who Rinse & Flux are. >Because they sure as hell were spinning. >I think you need to stop posting now , because you just sound stupider every time.Thanx. > >"your everyday junglist", who has seen it all now. >Mikey > >>From: AlexG1029@aol.com >>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >>Subject: Re: the weekend review (Hi! and Acid Breaks) >>Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 22:23:27 EDT >> >>what room were they in? i guess i must be trippin....i went to the "jungle >>room" at around 1:30 and joshua jacob was still spinnin there (or was he?) >>and when i went there agiain around 2:30 Ghostribe was there....or so i think >>were they in the room right by the front doors? cuz thats where i was lookin >>for them and never found em >>i was sober too! >> >>PeAcE OuT >> alEx =.) > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 01:57:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3140 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 01:57:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 3131 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 01:56:56 -0000 Received: from web124.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 01:56:56 -0000 Message-ID: <19990505015738.1130.rocketmail@web124.yahoomail.com> Received: from [206.132.168.8] by web124.yahoomail.com; Tue, 04 May 1999 18:57:38 PDT Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 18:57:38 -0700 (PDT) From: messiah wannabe Subject: hi fidelity audio To: sf raves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk and while i'm at it, can any of you tech heads give me the down-low on good audio equipment? just home stereo level, doubling as studio monitoring, but the good stuff - good shops in the bay area, good brands/models, etc? my ex-roomie provided the audio before his departure. my pad needs sound. thankx, messiah From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 02:21:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14605 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 02:21:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 14388 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 02:20:53 -0000 Received: from f205.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.96) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 02:20:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 20199 invoked by uid 0); 5 May 1999 02:20:11 -0000 Message-ID: <19990505022011.20198.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.85.166.74 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 04 May 1999 19:20:11 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.85.166.74] From: "Wayne Radinsky" To: BluSnday@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Japanese Drum Machine Wrist Watch =P Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 19:20:11 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk High bid: alknod@aol.com Hmm... don't we know that guy? **grin** He'll have to show it to us all, once he's got it. WAYNErad -- Get paid to watch ads: http://alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=ALZ893 -- >From: BluSnday@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Japanese Drum Machine Wrist Watch =P >Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 19:45:03 EDT > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=97909226&tc=photo128 > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 02:22:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16637 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 02:22:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 16622 invoked by uid 233); 5 May 1999 02:22:50 -0000 Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 19:22:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Lara To: "Macadio G." cc: Macias20@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: (nrr)Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!! In-Reply-To: <19990504210636.42572.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Macadio, aren't you turning 21 today?! ;) happy birthday! you're not an old fart yet baby! Lara ---- "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." -- Oscar Wilde On Tue, 4 May 1999, Macadio G. wrote: > hehehe Yes it is my Birthday and today I turn... Well that will remain a > Mystre. > > See ya, > Macadio > > >From: Macias20@aol.com > >To: macadio@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org > >Subject: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!! > >Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:59:28 EDT > > > >If im not mistaken... today's MACADIO"S BIRTHDAY.. YAY!!!!! if it is... > >happy > >birthday :) if it isn't... well have a great un-birthday too :) See ya at > >FIRST LIGHT... valerie AKA sparkles > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 02:28:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19814 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 02:28:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 19726 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 02:28:06 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 02:28:06 -0000 Received: from Abbo1234@aol.com (4418) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vBLPa08654 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 22:26:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Abbo1234@aol.com Message-ID: <12623706.24610668@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 22:26:48 EDT Subject: F-8 joke To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Can somebody please send this to me?? I accidently deleted it. Thanks PLUR Abby From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 02:36:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23413 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 02:36:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 23402 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 02:36:32 -0000 Received: from law-f143.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.206) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 02:36:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 1965 invoked by uid 0); 5 May 1999 02:36:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19990505023604.1964.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 170.20.137.132 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 04 May 1999 19:36:04 PDT X-Originating-IP: [170.20.137.132] From: "Alknod !" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Japanese Drum Machine Wrist Watch =P Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 19:36:04 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yea, this is how I deal with stress in my life, I end up buying shit I don't need! Although those 1200's sure came in handy! Dj Van Dune! >From: "Wayne Radinsky" >To: BluSnday@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: Japanese Drum Machine Wrist Watch =P >Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 19:20:11 PDT > > >High bid: alknod@aol.com > >Hmm... don't we know that guy? **grin** > >He'll have to show it to us all, once he's got it. > >WAYNErad >-- >Get paid to watch ads: http://alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=ALZ893 >-- >>From: BluSnday@aol.com >>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >>Subject: Japanese Drum Machine Wrist Watch =P >>Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 19:45:03 EDT >> >>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=97909226&tc=photo128 >> > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 02:38:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24289 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 02:38:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 24276 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 02:38:18 -0000 Received: from famine.ocf.berkeley.edu (mlowdrma@128.32.191.92) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 02:38:18 -0000 Received: from localhost (mlowdrma@localhost) by famine.OCF.Berkeley.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA28876; Tue, 4 May 1999 19:37:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: famine.OCF.Berkeley.EDU: mlowdrma owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 19:37:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "Minh Q. Le" cc: goodvibe@geocities.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: METROPOLIS: if yur goin, read this first :) In-Reply-To: <199905042348.QAA16185@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk -->PFFFT !!! :P Why would anyone subject oneself to the hideous side of circuit parties? Them muscleheads can't dance worth shite anyhow... twirling flags around...it's like a colorguard convention or something. There are no gay raves...besides... keep the bisexuality in raves alive ... that's the best state of being considering how difficult it sometimes is to get a backrub nowadays. :) M&m > > > On Tue, 04 May 1999 06:14:47 -0700, > goodvibe@geocities.com wrote... > >HELLO!!! All raves are Gay!!! Raves are the gayest thing alive. I swear! > >They should be called Gayvers, not ravers. No one raves anymore.. > >everyone just acts hella gay! > >Gay people are evil. Gay people like to eat dogs and mexican people! > >=Paul*E*Wog > >P.S. Rafie is Gay! > > > > > >What is a dic-so bunny wrote: > >> > >> Okay...i'm STILL going to Metropolis, but i'd just > >> thought i'd let you guys know that it is a "gay" rave. > >> Just check out this website: > >> > >> http://www.guspresents.com > >> > >> Someone told me that it was...but i didn't believe it > >> until i checked out this site. > >> > >> Please don't take this email out of context...i'm not > >> trying to persuade anyone to go to it and i'm not > >> telling you to stay home, but if you're uncomfortable > >> with it...maybe you should reconsider. > >> > >> sherri :) > >> > >> P.S. Hope to see some of you guys out at the M&M > >> March ;p tomorrow!!! > >> > >> === > >> Fievel and Dinky Little SUCK DONKEY > > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 02:40:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27033 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 02:40:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 27024 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 02:40:25 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd102.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.166) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 02:40:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 49725 invoked by uid 0); 5 May 1999 02:40:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19990505024019.49724.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.188.197.184 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 04 May 1999 19:40:17 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.188.197.184] From: "sHaWn ." To: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com, SFraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Formula: Jungle Massive?!? Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 19:40:17 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This party will be going on and going off! Liquid SKy is hella dope. The line up for the party is very dope too. Squirt from Dallas will be there and B-side from Sac along with all the other sick jungle dj's. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 02:51:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1315 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 02:51:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 1304 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 02:51:21 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd127.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.191) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 02:51:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 19839 invoked by uid 0); 5 May 1999 02:49:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19990505024931.19838.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.72.192.150 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 04 May 1999 19:49:30 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.72.192.150] From: "David Ramirez" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Japanese Drum Machine Wrist Watch =P Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 19:49:30 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hehehe.. thas pretty tite.. whas next.. the syth belt.. hehe.. ----Original Message Follows---- From: BluSnday@aol.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Japanese Drum Machine Wrist Watch =P Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 19:45:03 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 From sfraves-owner-raver_hp Tue May 04 16:46:48 1999 Received: from [209.133.83.16] by hotmail.com (1.5) with SMTP id MHotMailB8F8D1E801E5D1017076D185531006090; Tue May 04 16:46:48 1999 Received: (qmail 10519 invoked by uid 6000); 4 May 1999 23:46:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 10510 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 23:46:36 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 May 1999 23:46:36 -0000 Received: from BluSnday@aol.com (315)by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vDVa017022 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 19:45:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2f673572.2460e07f@aol.com> X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=97909226&tc=photo128 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 03:10:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7334 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 03:10:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 7318 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 03:10:34 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 03:10:34 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (14435) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3TYNa16144; Tue, 4 May 1999 23:07:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <34df2108.24610fde@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 23:07:10 EDT Subject: Re: about drug education and raving re:arycks poor friend To: Brikne@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Y'know, someone else mentioned these just say know things earlier. . . that'd be great if we could find the place that made them. . . It was probably a smaller organization that got fed up with their scene getting all wack (kinda like us). . . If not. . . it's like a school project. . . and hey it's almost the year 2000, who needs libraries anymore. . . we have the internet. . . hyperreal has a ton of info on this stuff, and at one time I was curious as to how whatever was made and grown or whatever, and I found TONS of sights. . . . Cut n paste mann. . . Till next time. . . Hugzzzzzzzz Aryck How does it go. . . ? Sugar n spice and everything nice, and snails n whales n puppydog tails ??? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 03:13:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9439 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 03:13:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 9430 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 03:13:48 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 03:13:48 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (8022) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id nVJTa26070; Tue, 4 May 1999 23:11:05 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <99ff22da.246110c3@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 23:10:59 EDT Subject: Re: dj kEMISTRY To: cindy@lodge.com, maxik@slip.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk wht the hell is a katseye?? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 03:24:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12141 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 03:24:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 12111 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 03:24:24 -0000 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (140.142.32.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 03:24:24 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id UAA22776; Tue, 4 May 1999 20:24:22 -0700 Message-ID: <02ea01be96a6$f08a8520$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: "Lara" , Cc: Subject: Re: NRR: things that are irritating people at the moment. Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 20:25:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You are right, Lara, and I know: Confession: I am a telemarketer. BUT before you discount all my opinions, please know that it is for a good cause. Cynical you feel? I call alumni of the University of Washington and beg them for money, which we need so badly because... ok won't launch into the script! :) The people are nice, and we are too (really!). But you gotta say that you want off their list, or we won't. The thing is, we are all just a bunch of screw-offs, and we just sit around and fuck off, making fun of rude people and stuff. But if you want off a list, TELL THEM!! "Thanks for your support, and have a great night", Alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- Whatever happened to the MC Times done changed for the MC Every woman and man wanna MC But for what, I'll tell ya MCin' ain't for you. -=- De La Sol -----Original Message----- From: Lara To: Megatron45@aol.com Cc: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Date: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 6:33 PM Subject: Re: NRR: things that are irritating people at the moment. >Heheheh :) Megatron the grass isn't greener on the other side either -- if >you DO go and switch to MCI, ATT will just harass you to no end like they >did me. > A tip for you though -- next time they do this to you, tell them >you consider it a form of harassment and ask them to PLEASE REMOVE YOU >FROM THEIR PHONING LISTS. Ask clearly and specifically, and by law they >HAVE TO REMOVE YOU -- otherwise you can sue their asses if you want. > On a sidenote, my annoyance is being totally behind on life (SFR >included) because of work and having to catch up! ;D >Love, >Lara > >---- >"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." > -- Oscar Wilde > >On Tue, 4 May 1999 Megatron45@aol.com wrote: > >> well its about that time to fill up all of your raver mailboxes with some NRR >> bizness. what is everyone irritated by in real life at the moment? (dont say >> me or i will fart in your house when u have company and blame it on u =) >> >> for me it has to be those damn phone companies. MCI calls my house quite >> frequently asking me to switch over to them and leave at&t. man they dont get >> it when u say no the first time either. they have to talk your ear off about >> they can do this and that and their whole life story. goodness i dont get >> phone calls as it is and me being excited that my phone is ringing hoping its >> that girl i had a crush on in high school who i left my phone # in her year >> book 2 and 1/2 years ago goes to the toilet when i find out its Scooter from >> MCI WORLDCOM telling me how he can save me money. BLAH >> >> DJMEGATRON:mechasoul >> > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 04:03:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27365 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 04:02:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 27293 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 04:02:56 -0000 Received: from f166.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 04:02:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 24193 invoked by uid 0); 5 May 1999 04:09:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990505040905.24192.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.85.166.74 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 04 May 1999 21:09:05 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.85.166.74] From: "Wayne Radinsky" To: alknod@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Japanese Drum Machine Wrist Watch =P Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 21:09:05 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Oh you do this to deal with stress? So, from today's posts, I've learned: If (Death Threats On Answering Machine) Then Buy Japanese Drum Machine Wrist Watch ---------- >From: "Alknod !" >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: Japanese Drum Machine Wrist Watch =P >Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 19:36:04 PDT > >Yea, this is how I deal with stress in my life, I end up buying shit I don't need! Although those 1200's sure came in handy! > > >Dj Van Dune! > >>From: "Wayne Radinsky" >>To: BluSnday@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >>Subject: Re: Japanese Drum Machine Wrist Watch =P >>Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 19:20:11 PDT >> >> >>High bid: alknod@aol.com >> >>Hmm... don't we know that guy? **grin** >> >>He'll have to show it to us all, once he's got it. >> >>WAYNErad >>-- >>Get paid to watch ads: http://alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=ALZ893 >>-- >>>From: BluSnday@aol.com >>>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >>>Subject: Japanese Drum Machine Wrist Watch =P >>>Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 19:45:03 EDT >>> >>>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=97909226&tc=photo128 >>> >> >> > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 04:25:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5982 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 04:25:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 5974 invoked by uid 233); 5 May 1999 04:25:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 24936 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 03:55:18 -0000 Received: from spazmo.peacedividend.com (HELO mail.peacedividend.com) (208.25.76.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 03:55:18 -0000 Received: from [208.25.76.69] (208.25.76.69) by mail.peacedividend.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.2.2); Tue, 4 May 1999 20:56:35 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: jessica@mail.peacedividend.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <02ea01be96a6$f08a8520$a01a5f80@alcatraz> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 20:55:14 -0700 To: From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: NRR: things that are irritating people at the moment. Cc: Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Things that irritate me: 1) I work with/for stupid people. Doing some stupid things that I thought I was done with years ago. I made a bad decision when I took the job, and should have quit 2 weeks into it when I was ready to kill everyone. I've stuck with it because I don't want my resume to look like I'm noncommital, and because they almost pay me enough to sit there wasting away. Other than the stability of the paycheck, the job is killing my creativity, drive, and enthusiasm. But I crave stability, it's a rare and precious commodity for me so far. 2) As I get older my body is changing - something the women in my family warned me about but I was too immortal to pay attention to (I think that's for the best really). Girls: your metabolism *will* probably slow, and your hips *will* probably get all geared up for childrearing, as you near 30. Be ready. (NOTE: this could very well have something to do with the big doses of Lysine I was taking for insomnia for several months until I noticed I was getting fat, and then noticed that Lysine is present in all those weight-gain formulas you see at GNC. Fuck!) But really, I had to think for a while to come up with those things, so I think I'm generally making progress along the bitter---->being responsible for my reactions scale. (I wonder if that makes me come off as more, or less, of a bitch.) Love, Jessica ******************************** http://www.peacedividend.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 04:40:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13443 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 04:40:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 13431 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 04:40:05 -0000 Received: from law-f118.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.181) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 04:40:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 42405 invoked by uid 0); 5 May 1999 04:39:38 -0000 Message-ID: <19990505043938.42404.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 170.20.137.132 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 04 May 1999 21:39:37 PDT X-Originating-IP: [170.20.137.132] From: "Alknod !" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Japanese Drum Machine Wrist Watch =P Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 21:39:37 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Uh, yep! I'm over it now, I wonder if anyone outbid me yet! Dj Van Dune! >From: "Wayne Radinsky" >To: alknod@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: Japanese Drum Machine Wrist Watch =P >Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 21:09:05 PDT > > >Oh you do this to deal with stress? So, from today's posts, >I've learned: > >If (Death Threats On Answering Machine) Then > Buy Japanese Drum Machine Wrist Watch >---------- >>From: "Alknod !" >>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >>Subject: Re: Japanese Drum Machine Wrist Watch =P >>Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 19:36:04 PDT >> >>Yea, this is how I deal with stress in my life, I end up buying shit I >>don't need! Although those 1200's sure came in handy! >> >> >>Dj Van Dune! >> >>>From: "Wayne Radinsky" >>>To: BluSnday@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >>>Subject: Re: Japanese Drum Machine Wrist Watch =P >>>Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 19:20:11 PDT >>> >>> >>>High bid: alknod@aol.com >>> >>>Hmm... don't we know that guy? **grin** >>> >>>He'll have to show it to us all, once he's got it. >>> >>>WAYNErad >>>-- >>>Get paid to watch ads: http://alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=ALZ893 >>>-- >>>>From: BluSnday@aol.com >>>>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >>>>Subject: Japanese Drum Machine Wrist Watch =P >>>>Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 19:45:03 EDT >>>> >>>>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=97909226&tc=photo128 >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 04:46:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17541 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 04:46:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 17513 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 04:45:58 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 04:45:58 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA00506; Tue, 4 May 1999 21:45:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905050445.VAA00506@mail.netwiz.net> To: messiah wannabe Cc: "San FranDisco Ravers List" Subject: Re: hi fidelity audio In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 04 May 1999 18:57:38 -0700 Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 21:45:49 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I posted this a while ago regarding similar subjects, but the post never went through due to DNS problems at my ISP vs hyperreal's spam-proofed mailer.... so i might as well repost while it's on-topic... -------------------- Message-Id: <199904232031.NAA09228@mail.netwiz.net> To: neophytus maximus Cc: "San FranDisco Ravers List" Subject: Re: N.N.R Electrostatic Speaker help Reply-To: npm@netwiz.net Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:31:52 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" i personally think that most of the high-end audiophile stuff is crap that colorizes the sound in ways that may not be appropriate for the kind of music you listen to. a speaker that sounds good for classical may not sound good for techno. most audiophile equipment sounds like shit for techno, and may actually not be able to faithfully reproduce the music due to the bass-heavy nature of the sounds we enjoy. personally, i go for professional studio electronics and completely stay away from audiophile stuff. although i have an older pseudo-audiodphile system in my living room (B&K ST202+ MOSFET amp, NAD 1600 preamp, Vandersteen 2ce speakers, Dual 714Q direct drive turntable, Adcom GCD-700 CD Changer) my best sounding system is in my office/studio: Genelec 1031AP active biamplified monitors (www.genelec.com), tc electronics finalizer (www.tcelectronics.com) studio mastering processor as preamp, equalizer, compressor, tube distortion, etc and midi-able control center, home-made dual balanced stepped passiveattenuator for volume control, and a broadcast tools (http://www.broadcasttools.com/) 6x1B balanced passive switcher/router (to select various analog inputs into the finalizer). for digital sources (including A/D and D/A for my computers), i use the finalizer as a D/A converter and it feeds my monitors direclty (other than the aforementioned stepped passive attenuator). once the analog signal is past the mixer(s), all cabling is homemade balanced canare into canare xlr connectors all the way through the signal chain until it hits the studio monitors. so basically, i get very clean, low noise and accurate sound. when i want to fuck things up, i dial in a different setting on the finalizer. If I want some traditional distortion, I dial in the tube/tape-saturation control on the finalizer... Meanwhile, if you've bought an audiophile tube rip-off, you're stuck with tube distortion whether or not you want it, and whether or not it sounds good on a particular kind of music. Most audiophile equipment is designed to color the music in pleasant ways, but what seems pleasant for a string quartet (e.g. your mackintosh driving electrostatic speakers) is going to sound like crap for techno. if your funds are limited, check out the mackie studio monitors (www.mackie.com). THey rock, can handle anything you throw at them w/o frying (unlike audiophile equiipment)... Though they're not as nice as the Genelec or the Meyer Sound Labs HD-1's, they are quite precise, extremely loud and low-distortion, and have very good bass. A very good value, IMHO. I think the whole preamp-cable-power-amp-cable-passive-xover-speaker thing is an anachronism. the way to go is active monitors w/ a separate built-in amp for each speaker, active crossover before the amps, etc. (e.g. the approach taken by Genelec, Meyer Sound Labs, Mackie, etc). One thing that is great about this architecture is that it is basically "fry proof".... the speaker designer knows exactly how much power each driver can handle, and therefore designs the amp to be able to deliver exactly that much power long-term (less wasted space, weight, energy)... when you're overdriving, the red clipping light lights up to tell you to turn it down, and if you keep overpowering after a while, they'll automatically shut off to protect the driver from melting. Such holistic designs are what electronics should be about, instead of the overengineered, wasteful brute-force approach taken by most audiophile designers. It's also too bad very few soundsystem equipment (other than the JBL EON) take this kind of balanced approach... -------------------- Note that a few weeks after I wrote the above, I discovered that mackie has created the awesome-seeming SRM-450 sound reinforcement speaker http://www.mackie.com/Products/SRM450.asp which would be an ideal foundation for a system and leagues over the JBL Eon. To make a good home/studio stereo out of the SRM450's, just add a decent quality mixer (no numark or gemini) with balanced XLR outs. Then plug in the active monitors into whatever length (well, less than 50-100 feet) of balanced XLR cable between the cd players turntables and whatnot that you want to hook into your mixer. this'll be a much better system for a true music lover than any overpriced audiophile crap could ever be. if the SRM450's are too much power or you plan to listen to your speakers at close range, the HR824's near field monitors are preferable (http://www.mackie.com/Products/HR824.asp) and they are awesome as well. as far as shops, i've used audio images corporation in soma and leo's audio/music on van-ness. i tend to buy large items mailorder and out of state so as to avoid paying sales tax on already expensive equipment, using local retailers for miscellaneous items, e.g. connectors, cable. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 04:47:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18329 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 04:47:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 18316 invoked by uid 233); 5 May 1999 04:47:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 13364 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 04:39:43 -0000 Received: from law-f55.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.118) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 04:39:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 58143 invoked by uid 0); 5 May 1999 04:39:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990505043951.58142.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.77.82.107 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 04 May 1999 21:39:50 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.77.82.107] From: "michael waldren" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Formula: Jungle Massive?!? Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 21:39:50 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You know what, Squirt from dallas and B-side from Sac will also be at 916 junglist on the 14th.Y'all just HaVe tO gO. Call Imagine records for info. I guruantee satisfaction or i will give you the $7 it costs to get in. For real. Junglist MiKEy >From: "sHaWn ." >To: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com, SFraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: Formula: Jungle Massive?!? >Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 19:40:17 PDT > >This party will be going on and going off! Liquid SKy is hella dope. The >line up for the party is very dope too. Squirt from Dallas will be there >and B-side from Sac along with all the other sick jungle dj's. > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 05:13:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25613 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 05:12:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 25605 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 05:12:55 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 05:12:55 -0000 Received: from LordNyxx@aol.com (2615) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vKKQa24274 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 01:12:25 -0400 (EDT) From: LordNyxx@aol.com Message-ID: <1966ac61.24612d38@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 01:12:24 EDT Subject: Re: raver handbook..=0p To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Unfortunately, to many, drugs and partying are synonmyous, and will be almost impossible to seperate.... The best thing that can be done, is not necessarily tell people not to do the drugs that they will reguardless....but teach them to do it responsible, give them tips about how to be safe and respectful to themselves and others....to not over do it, to know their limits and abide by them.... For a long time now, ive seriously considered making a series of little cards, to hand out to people at parties, with different tips on how to keep safe on the various drugs that float around our scene....I would be totally down for making this idea a reality, but would appreciate some outside help and support....if anyone is interested....please let me know.... Cause if you could save one little kiddie from having to take that trip to the hospital, well then, i think the time and effort would be worth it. :) ::huggles:: gLoVeS From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 05:14:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26448 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 05:14:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 26440 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 05:14:33 -0000 Received: from f110.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.229) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 05:14:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 5672 invoked by uid 0); 5 May 1999 05:14:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19990505051403.5671.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.85.166.74 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 04 May 1999 22:14:03 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.85.166.74] From: "Wayne Radinsky" To: Megatron45@aol.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: things that are irritating people at the moment. Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 22:14:03 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok I can't resist the chance to rant about all the things that are irritating me right at this moment... 1) I've had too many colds and haven't been to a rave in like 6 weeks or something. I'm most of all bummed that I missed the Full Moon party, which I was looking forward to ever since the previous Full Moon party, because I was sick on that day too. *snif* 2) Isolation... cubicle...studio apt...cubicle...studio apt... cubicle...studio apt... where does human contact fit in here? Weekly status meetings? You know something's wrong when a weekly status meeting counts as a major part of your social life. So I figure the solution is, I need to get married, so I'll have someone live with me. But there's a really wicked male/female imbalance around silicon valley. Mail order brides from Russia are starting to sound like a really good idea. Wait, mail order is an outdated term, nowadays you go thru websites. Anyhoo, I hear those women are beautiful, very well educated... and don't trust anybody. Sounds like the makings of the adventure of a lifetime, don't you think? 3) there is no 3) 4) work. (as in: why am I still here? It's 10:15pm) 5) All those emails I haven't answered yet. Hey, if I owe you some email, I'm working on it, ok? 6) People who complain about the phone companies calling them during dinner. I'm sorry, if that's the worst of your problems, your life is going really good. Just hang up, for god's sake! sheesh :) I wish my problems were that easy. Sincelery, Wayne -- Get paid to watch ads: http://alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=ALZ893 -- >From: Megatron45@aol.com >To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org >Subject: NRR: things that are irritating people at the moment. >Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 17:18:14 EDT > >well its about that time to fill up all of your raver mailboxes with some >NRR >bizness. what is everyone irritated by in real life at the moment? (dont >say >me or i will fart in your house when u have company and blame it on u =) > >for me it has to be those damn phone companies. MCI calls my house quite >frequently asking me to switch over to them and leave at&t. man they dont >get >it when u say no the first time either. they have to talk your ear off >about >they can do this and that and their whole life story. goodness i dont get >phone calls as it is and me being excited that my phone is ringing hoping >its >that girl i had a crush on in high school who i left my phone # in her year >book 2 and 1/2 years ago goes to the toilet when i find out its Scooter >from >MCI WORLDCOM telling me how he can save me money. BLAH > >DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 05:16:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27574 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 05:16:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 27566 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 05:16:30 -0000 Received: from netcom10.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.120) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 05:16:30 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom10.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id WAA03434; Tue, 4 May 1999 22:16:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 22:16:28 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Re: raver handbook..=0p To: E-Bumpers By the Bay In-Reply-To: <1966ac61.24612d38@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk there is a "Responsible Raving Handbook" that was in circulation in SoCal for a while... when John Abel turned up dead after Dune, his mother was waving it around and reading from it on television interviews. it's actually a very well-written little piece, but when you get angry mothers and an unfriendly media taking choice snippets from it out of context, it begins to look like a drug use guidebook instead of a book of useful information. On Wed, 5 May 1999 LordNyxx@aol.com wrote: > Unfortunately, to many, drugs and partying are synonmyous, and will be almost > impossible to seperate.... > > The best thing that can be done, is not necessarily tell people not to do the > drugs that they will reguardless....but teach them to do it responsible, give > them tips about how to be safe and respectful to themselves and others....to > not over do it, to know their limits and abide by them.... > > For a long time now, ive seriously considered making a series of little > cards, to hand out to people at parties, with different tips on how to keep > safe on the various drugs that float around our scene....I would be totally > down for making this idea a reality, but would appreciate some outside help > and support....if anyone is interested....please let me know.... > > Cause if you could save one little kiddie from having to take that trip to > the hospital, well then, i think the time and effort would be worth it. :) > > > ::huggles:: > gLoVeS > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 05:21:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 321 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 05:21:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 313 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 05:21:33 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 05:21:33 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id AAA09320 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 00:21:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca49-59.ix.netcom.com(209.110.236.59) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma009289; Wed May 5 00:20:56 1999 Message-Id: <4.1.19990504221910.00bc9750@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: ascend@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 22:23:00 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Greg Sandler Subject: DJ Greg Sandler (bsp) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone, I am going to be performing at the following parties this weekend... so it would be great to see you guys out there on the dance floor!!! Saturday May 8th - Vorg - Breakfast for Ravers!!! this will be at 2nd and Jax, Oakland Sunday May 9th - Spundae this is at 1015 Folsom in SF 21+ Hope to see some of you out there!!! Peace and love, Greg= ) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 05:37:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7515 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 05:37:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 7504 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 05:37:28 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 05:37:28 -0000 Received: from Taiida@aol.com (8021) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHIPa16144 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 01:36:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Taiida@aol.com Message-ID: <2f6990a6.246132dc@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 01:36:28 EDT Subject: E question????? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok, my sister heard that a girl in a sorority down in Santa Barbara died from dropping E. The girl went with her sorority sisters to a party and they all did E and she was the only one that had a reaction where her chest swelled up, and had all sorts of other reactions and then finally she couldn't breathe and just died right there. ANYONE KNOW WHAT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED?? I KNOW THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT REACTIONS, BUT HOW???? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 05:39:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10053 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 05:39:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 9836 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 05:39:40 -0000 Received: from diamond.sierra.net (207.135.224.253) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 05:39:40 -0000 Received: from sierra.net (jobs-d163.sierra.net [207.135.194.163]) by diamond.sierra.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA11481; Tue, 4 May 1999 22:37:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <372FD98A.B1543DA@sierra.net> Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 22:39:23 -0700 From: blondies@sierra.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Furnash1@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Tahoe raves? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just to let you know there is NO scene in Tahoe. Unless you count booty club music at the clubs in the Casinos. Every now and then there are some good get togethers that consist of bay area people, such as Geocentric last year and the recent stargaze gathering. There is a small, very small crew of us ravers, (me and Shane) that trek on down to the bay at least once a month, and we would be quite happy to adopt anyone into our elite group :-) . But I am only speaking about the south shore, I dunno about North shore. Sarah the tahoe one Furnash1@aol.com wrote: > Hi, > Speaking of Reno, does anyone know where I can get info about the rave scene > in the Reno/Tahoe area? I'm going 2 be up there for summer and I don't want > 2 have to stop going to parties or drive for hours to get to them. Thanx & > have a good Monday. ;-) > Luv, > Anna > > Subject: To Kids in RENO > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > I had a wonderful time in Reno this weekend. Thanks > for all the fun and laughter. I almost felt as if I > was home again in Iowa. You don't really appreciate > the smaller scenes and how much PLUR goes around until > you move. I do miss it a lot and HELL YA I'm going > back to Reno, somebody please let me know when there > is Rave there. Brandon, your the coolest man and I > am so I glad I bumped into, we connect man. Tara, > your the shit girl, keep on raving and I like your > moves. To Tina, your my sweety and always well, but I > want you to take care of yourself and go get checked > out. I don't want to have to go thru another episode > like that, it was scary and I know your stress out, > but go get checked out. We all care for you. > > Peace and lots of PLUR to RENO > > Chep From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 06:15:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21213 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 06:15:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 21205 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 06:15:07 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 06:15:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19990505055820.10942.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.86.220.227] by web1; Tue, 04 May 1999 22:58:20 PDT Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 22:58:20 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: Re: Doc Scott and Justiyc @Density To: Max McCauley , Lucy Fur Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ---Max McCauley wrote: > > but what happened last night at Justice League was insulting. Doc Scott > is a fucking legend in his own time. I am not bitter... Perhaps it had something to do with the fact that these were a) 21+ clubs. b) J-leaugue has an UBER bad name. c) I barely heard anything about Doc coming. (I also just heard about 4hero). It's taken Eklektic a long time to get where its at, and even they have a slow night from time to time. SF can't go from sleepy town to best in the US without some growing pains. Don't worry, we'll get there. -Science From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 06:29:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25880 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 06:29:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 25871 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 06:29:19 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 06:29:19 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (8017) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vTNWa27692 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 02:28:36 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 02:28:36 EDT Subject: and to think i am a Redneck To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Q: What's the difference between a good ol' boy and a redneck? A: The good ol' boy raises livestock. The redneck gets emotionally involved. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 06:30:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26832 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 06:30:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 26748 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 06:30:10 -0000 Received: from mail.netzero.net (HELO l3serv10.netzero.net) (209.0.233.22) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 06:30:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 4075 invoked by uid 0); 5 May 1999 06:29:57 -0000 Received: from dialup-209.245.75.58.losangeles1.level3.net (HELO katskratcher) (209.245.75.58) by mail.netzero.net with SMTP; 5 May 1999 06:29:57 -0000 Message-ID: <069901be96c2$5287b5c0$7748f5d1@katskratcher> From: ",,^. .^,," To: , , , Subject: Re: dj kEMISTRY Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 23:40:39 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ,,^. .^,, <~~~ well its that thing in the middle there... :oP |wht the hell is a katseye?? | NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 07:54:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18284 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 07:53:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 18276 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 07:53:56 -0000 Received: from mta3.snfc21.pbi.net (206.13.28.141) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 07:53:56 -0000 Received: from pacbell.net (ppp-206-170-24-110.sntc01.pacbell.net [206.170.24.110]) by mta3.snfc21.pbi.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with ESMTP id AAA29863; Wed, 5 May 1999 00:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <372FF871.9D4074F0@pacbell.net> Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 00:51:14 -0700 From: foolio X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Niels P. Mayer" CC: messiah wannabe , San FranDisco Ravers List Subject: Re: hi fidelity audio References: <199905050445.VAA00506@mail.netwiz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Although I would take Mr. Mayer's opinon over mine anyday, I still happen to enjoy the colorization that comes out of more expensive speakers. Remember, we (I) do not listen to rave music (ok, I guess most of you do) all the time. More often than any other music, I would rather listen to classical, which my wannabe audiophile crap suits me perfectly. While admit, there is no way in hell it is ever going to get eye moogly loud, I have niehbors that would most likely shoot me if I decided that the entire block is going to become personal compadres with aphex twin. (which no doubt the Mackie's are made for). However, because the audiophile (like those electrostatic speakers, I was bitching about earlier) equipment cannot deal with the continued low frequency power allotment,(aaahhhhh except for my Velodyne CT-150 heh heh heh, I don't care what people say about audiophile crap, that sub kicks ass with anything thrown at it, and it sounds goooooood) I am actually buying a seperate system to deal with it in a more desireable way. For relatively (ok I am reaching a bit here) few dollars you can pick up studio monitors as mentinoned by Niels, like the mackies (I think I am going to get the Alesis's monitors 1's advertised a few days ago) and maybe even a new amp to provide lower distorsion. That helps out all of none, and I think I just realized that. My point? none, other than although audiophile crap does not perform the best for rave music, most of us are limited in sound output, because we have psychotic lunatics for nieghbors that are just looking for an excuse to become frothing apes, kick in my door, and throw me out the window. If it matters, I love my Marantze 2270 (reciever),Velodyne CT-150, McIntosh Ml-1C's and AR's (damn whatever the number is, there are old as all hell, but I swear they sound like a dream, I just don't turn them up to loud. For a simple, all around good quaility for the price home room set up. Of course all this being subjective to my own taste in music. I have to fend off the frothing apes now. Late Jonathan C From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 08:02:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20280 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 08:01:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 20271 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 08:01:56 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 08:01:56 -0000 Received: from Oct1faith@aol.com (576) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id hXRNa13996; Wed, 5 May 1999 04:00:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Oct1faith@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 04:00:10 EDT Subject: Re: Hippie Ravers and Dubtribe To: unclenoa@netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/4/99 7:40:59 PM EST, unclenoa@netcom.com writes: > speaking of hippie ravers and dubtribe, i was at a dubtribe show in LA > and the power went out at one point. while everything was dark, a bunch > of folks started banging drums and other stuff and hooting and yelling > n'stuff. the guy next to me leaned over and said "I paid $15 for this > hippie bullshit? I could get this for free on the quad of my local UC > campus on any Saturday afternoon!" > hey I was at that rave in a Hotel in LA. speaking on Dubtribe behalf, they didn't know about it untill they got there. They didn't want it to happen but when the power went out ,the drummer an the dance took it as a chance to do their thing. It kind of work out, since the power went out a thing , but it did seem kind of weird. I love hippies peace Blackstone From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 08:24:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26058 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 08:24:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 26041 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 08:24:15 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 08:24:15 -0000 Received: from AlexG1029@aol.com (8031) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vAFa015859; Wed, 5 May 1999 04:23:45 -0400 (EDT) From: AlexG1029@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 04:23:45 EDT Subject: Re: E question????? To: Taiida@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk from what u said it sounds like she mightve just choked on the pill i dont have any facts but it sounds like a possibility PeAcE OuT alEx =.) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 10:57:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10677 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 10:56:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 10657 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 10:56:55 -0000 Received: from mail2.acninc.net (38.201.2.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 10:56:55 -0000 Received: from athens.crosswinds.net (ip216.san-francisco31.ca.pub-ip.psi.net) by mail2.acninc.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.2.1998.10.13.00.06) with ESMTP id <0FB8000K5LEAXR@mail2.acninc.net> for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Tue, 4 May 1999 21:56:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 18:52:09 -0700 From: Anton Subject: DON'T SCARE ME LIKE THAT!! =D To: SF Raves Message-id: <372FA449.E223C01E@athens.crosswinds.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk http://clockworkeventz.com/pages/metropolis.html i was really worried 4 a sec!! *phew* Luvz, Nemo From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 13:10:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4991 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 13:10:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 4977 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 13:10:00 -0000 Received: from diana.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.239) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 13:10:00 -0000 Received: from [130.212.201.37] (madmax-37.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.37]) by diana.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA00158 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 06:08:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <372F836F.37EEAB40@prodigy.net> References: <199904292333.QAA23849@mail.netwiz.net> <372F7C8F.4C4A63DF@hrg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 18:03:49 -0700 To: Society of Felchers and Repomen From: Michael Standish Subject: Re: drool (SRM-450 techno-lust and friend to renegade soundsystems everywhere) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 4:31 PM -0700 5/4/99, JOELANZON wrote: >Anything from Mackie kicks ass! Word! I love my Mackie M1400i. Plenty of power (1400 watts bridged at 4 ohms) and a built in crossover. The crossover isn't as controllable as I'd like, but it beats the hell out of paying $200 for a rack mount one. My M1400i was only $500 after tax at Guitar Center, and it will easily push two 18 inch subs all night long. Damn, I had some Mackie marketing hype around hear some where. Those new self powered speakers look hella phat. They have one with a compression tweeter, eight inch mid and what looks like four 15 inch woofers. Ill! I want 'em. Pant, pant, drool. Now we just have to talk Mackie into making DJ mixers. I want one with a built ib X-over. Sir Ulrich Knight of the Turntables From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 13:35:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11001 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 13:35:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 10992 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 13:35:17 -0000 Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.12) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 13:35:17 -0000 Received: from totoro1.earthlink.net (pool125-cvx.ds63-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.198.125]) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA27965 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 06:35:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990505063540.007af200@earthlink.net> X-Sender: totoro1@earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 06:35:40 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: totoro1@earthlink.net Subject: Want to trade mixtapes! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Looking for a good hook-up for quality SF house music! If you have any good live sets or regular mixtapes from SF DJ's esp: Tony, Jeno, Garth, Thomas of Wicked and especially old MOON PUP (looking hard for an old tape called Tribal Trip!!!) let's trade!!! Please send me your list directly and you can find mine at my website: http://home.earthlink.net/~totoro1/ If you have any problems, I can e-mail it to you, but you should be able to get it there! Contact me and take care--By the way, I'm in Los Angeles, so it's not far for postage! Peace- John From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 15:11:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23471 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 15:11:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 23453 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 15:11:42 -0000 Received: from f207.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.98) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 15:11:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 85092 invoked by uid 0); 5 May 1999 15:11:11 -0000 Message-ID: <19990505151111.85091.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.227.43.13 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 05 May 1999 08:11:11 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.227.43.13] From: "Michelle B." To: totoro1@earthlink.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Want to trade mixtapes! Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 15:11:11 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk John, Hey don't know if I can help you, but I do have some old tapes. I think I have about 5 different ones from Moonpup. As far as the others are concerned, if I can locate them, then I have no problem trying help you out. The titles I know: Jeno-Not for Sale Garth-Wicked Thomas of Wicked - Don't have any of him, but Got some Thomas Trouble??? MOON PUP - X-Rated, others I can't remember off hand. Doc Martin - Unlock the House (?) Tracy - Tribal Future Thomas Michael-? (SORRY, CAN'T HELP WITH THE NEXT FEW) Others Tribal Trip!!!) Several others I'm sure I'm not thinking of. BTW: Anyword on MoonPup back from the UK? I've been out of touch for a while now, and I'd like to get in contact with him. He's a wonderful person! Thanks, Michelle >From: totoro1@earthlink.net >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Want to trade mixtapes! >Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 06:35:40 -0700 > >Looking for a good hook-up for quality SF house music! If you have any good >live sets or regular mixtapes from SF DJ's esp: Tony, Jeno, Garth, Thomas >of Wicked and especially old MOON PUP (looking hard for an old tape called >Tribal Trip!!!) let's trade!!! Please send me your list directly and you >can find mine at my website: > >http://home.earthlink.net/~totoro1/ > >If you have any problems, I can e-mail it to you, but you should be able to >get it there! > >Contact me and take care--By the way, I'm in Los Angeles, so it's not far >for postage! > >Peace- >John > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 15:26:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1214 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 15:26:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 1085 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 15:26:19 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 15:26:19 -0000 Received: from Juju0322@aol.com (531) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNVMa20904 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 11:24:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Juju0322@aol.com Message-ID: <32a4be88.2461bcc3@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 11:24:51 EDT Subject: Funny Haha (HUMOR) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_32a4be88.2461bcc3_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 78 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_32a4be88.2461bcc3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_32a4be88.2461bcc3_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: SuzyQpm@aol.com From: SuzyQpm@aol.com Full-name: SuzyQpm Message-ID: <32a4be88.2461b513@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 10:52:03 EDT Subject: FROM MOM To: Crisgl@aol.com, Juju0322@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 >> >> HoW To KeEp A hEaLtHy LeVeL Of InSaNiTy AnD dRiVe >> OtHeR PeOpLe >> iNsAnE... >> >> *********************************************** >> >> At lunch time, sit in your parked car and point a >> hair dryer at >> passing cars to see if they slow down. >> >> Page yourself over the intercom. (Don't disguise >> your voice) >> >> >> Find out where your boss shops and buy exactly the >> same outfits. >> Always wear them one day after your boss does. (This >> is especially >> effective >> if your boss is the opposite gender.) >> >> Send e-mail to the rest of the company to tell them >> what you're >> doing. For example: 'If anyone needs me, I'll be in >> the bathroom.' >> >> Put mosquito netting around your cubicle. >> >> Insist that your e-mail address be >> xena_goddess_of_fire@companyname.com >> Elvis_the_King@companyname.com >> >> Every time someone asks you to do something, ask if >> they want fries >> with that. >> >> Encourage your colleagues to join you in a little >> synchronized chair >> dancing. >> >> Put your garbage can on your desk and label it 'IN'. >> >> Develop an unnatural fear of staplers. >> >> Send e-mail messages that advertise free pizza, >> doughnuts, etc., in >> the break room. When people complain that there was >> nothing there, lean >> back, rub your stomach, and say, "You've got to be >> faster than that." >> >> Put decaf in the coffee maker for 3 weeks. Once >> everyone has gotten >> over their caffeine addictions, switch to espresso. >> >> In the memo field of all your checks, write 'for >> sexual favors'. >> >> Reply to everything someone says with, "That's what >> you think." >> >> Finish all your sentences with "in accordance with >> the prophecy." >> >> Adjust the tint on your monitor so that the >> brightness level lights >> up the entire working area. Insist to others that >> you like it that way. >> >> Dont use any punctuation >> >> As often as possible, skip rather than walk. >> >> Ask people what sex they are. >> >> Specify that your drive-through order is 'to go'. >> >> Sing along at the opera. >> >> Go to a poetry recital and ask why the poems don't >> rhyme. >> >> Five days in advance, tell your friends you can't >> attend their party >> because you're not in the mood. >> >> ***AnD tHe FiNaL WaY tO aNnOy >> PeOple: >> >> Send this e-mail to everyone in your address book, >> even if they sent >> it to you or have asked you not to send them stuff >> like that. --part1_32a4be88.2461bcc3_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 15:29:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4422 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 15:29:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 4413 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 15:29:47 -0000 Received: from web807.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 15:29:47 -0000 Message-ID: <19990505152903.15980.rocketmail@web807.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web807.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 05 May 1999 08:29:03 PDT Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 08:29:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: Hippie Ravers and Dubtribe To: Oct1faith@aol.com, unclenoa@netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That happened to harmony, the lights went out, and I was convinced it was a show put on just for us. The music had stopped, but the party was still going on with all the drums and people dancing, and screaming, it was amazing. For some reason I thought the main room still had power, and they just shut off the power in the chill room for a drum circle. I learned later that it wasnt planned. That was probably one of the many highlights of my night, because it just goes to show, throw a bunch-o-ravers in a wherehouse and the energy is amazing, I couldnt believe it. Its one of those things that you had to experience, i guess :) Jessica --- Oct1faith@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/4/99 7:40:59 PM EST, > unclenoa@netcom.com writes: > > > speaking of hippie ravers and dubtribe, i was at a > dubtribe show in LA > > and the power went out at one point. while > everything was dark, a bunch > > of folks started banging drums and other stuff > and hooting and yelling > > n'stuff. the guy next to me leaned over and said > "I paid $15 for this > > hippie bullshit? I could get this for free on > the quad of my local UC > > campus on any Saturday afternoon!" > > > hey I was at that rave in a Hotel in LA. > speaking on Dubtribe behalf, they didn't know about > it untill they got there. > They didn't want it to happen but when the power > went out ,the drummer an the > dance took it as a chance to do their thing. It kind > of work out, since the > power went out a thing , but it did seem kind of > weird. > I love hippies > peace > Blackstone > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 16:10:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28747 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 16:10:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 28739 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 16:10:19 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 16:10:19 -0000 Received: from Juju0322@aol.com (529) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vIBGa04815 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:09:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Juju0322@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 12:09:41 EDT Subject: (NRR)ooking for a Job in Graphics for Craigory To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 78 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I know there have been a few things on this list about dope jobs that are out there, and my friend Craig is looking for a jod in or near SF, if anyof you know anything please e-mail me....HE does things like 3D animation and things like that, his work is very good and very proffesional, and he doesnt really care about getting paid alot, he just needs to find a job, or if there is any one that is looking for someone to do flyers, he will gladly send you his porfolio. thank you -Stephanie Marie- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 16:45:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21014 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 16:45:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 21002 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 16:44:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aspen.sc-intl.com) (207.218.171.40) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 16:44:59 -0000 Received: by ASPEN with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <2086QBPY>; Wed, 5 May 1999 09:47:28 -0700 Message-ID: <756B30A53DCBD111BABC00A0C981D46372ACAE@ASPEN> From: "Ball, Tera" To: "'SFRaves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: Metropolis Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 09:47:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The first flyer I got for Metropolis said KRS1 was going to perform. Well I haven't seen his name on any of the other flyers. Does anyone know if he dropped out? Please tell me cuz that is the only reason why I would go. Thanks. :-) Tera From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 18:20:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20702 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 18:20:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 20175 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 18:20:11 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 18:20:11 -0000 Received: from WWoodliff@aol.com (14444) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJSEa02293 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 14:18:20 -0400 (EDT) From: WWoodliff@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 14:18:19 EDT Subject: Just Say Know To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At least one of the people who were involved in the Just Say Know project was Jennifer Sesser That's all the info I can give out on this one because I wouldn't feel right about putting out her number or E-mail on the net. Nomad also was involed in printing the flyers so you might be able to get some info through them Much Love JonPaul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 18:26:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 423 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 18:26:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 367 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 18:26:02 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 18:26:02 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (14450) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vDRBa20663; Wed, 5 May 1999 14:24:51 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <36e91d4e.2461e6f2@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 14:24:50 EDT Subject: Re: Just Say Know To: WWoodliff@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Im just curious, if you have her contact info on something important like this, why wouldnt you contact her and ask if it was ok to post the information rather than tell all of us you have it and dont want to share it? Peace, M Groove On From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 18:28:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3076 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 18:28:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 3067 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 18:28:08 -0000 Received: from web306.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.188) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 18:28:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990505183017.6122.rocketmail@web306.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.9.109] by web306.yahoomail.com; Wed, 05 May 1999 11:30:17 PDT Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 11:30:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Gosiewski Subject: Re: Kids at Parties (Whirl-y-gig, London) To: Lesley Mortell Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk My point is that it is possible to design an event that kids, young teens, newbies, Old school ravers, old hippies, and beatnik grandparents can enjoy together ... If you let go of certain puritan notions (Dancing to loud music is bad so only over 21s should be allowed to do it)that are ingrained in U.S. society and set about creating an all age appropriate environment (with seperate areas for `Age specific activity') there is no problem, That 7 year old would be able to go and dance at a Whirl-Y-Gig type event and not have to brave 2nd & Jax's dubious environment ... It is the lack of alternatives that create the problem of kids in an inappropriate environment... `Epiphany' in McLaren park was a good example of an event that I would have no trouble taking kids to ... Maybe some Promoters should think about doing something like this ... It would certainly help restore some diversity to the scene as well as being good training for the ravers of the future! Stefan (I have danced every day of my life since I could walk!) P.S. Some Whirl-Y-Gigs have gone all night but I don't remember the way the underage thing is handled at those -thing about > Whirl-Y-Gig is that it > is an acknowledged child/family type of event so the > people that go are > expecting to see children there and act accordingly. > > > (Responsibility for the less Experienced & the > Frustration of being > > under 18 but ready to party) have been well > addressed by a London Crew > > called Whirl-Y-Gig who organise parties that are > designed for ALL ages. > > > ... Their events are > > always enlightening, inclusive experiences... So > it can be done , it's > > just that the events have to be designed with age > diversity in mind. > > Child-Safe Raves are possible without sacrificing > intensity or > > integrity... Whirl-Y-Gig do it regularly.. > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 18:45:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20162 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 18:45:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 20137 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 18:45:49 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 18:45:49 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (8048) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPJCa20904 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 14:44:53 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <882ddb9f.2461eba4@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 14:44:52 EDT Subject: Re: Kids at Parties (Whirl-y-gig, London) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello All: This is an issue I feel very strongly about. For one, Im a parent. Second is=20 the promoting end. =20 Im not so old that I dont remember my teenage years. Yet Im old enough to=20 see how Ive matured and changed since then. And I know its pass=E9 to tell = the=20 younger crowds that you just dont understand since your not older. I didnt=20 think so when I was 16 either. Yet being 28 I see things alot differently=20 now than I did then. =20 There are promotions which I feel are conducive to the younger crowd and one= s=20 I feel that are a blatent disrespect to the younger crowd. We all know ther= e=20 is drug use at parties and raves. Its no secret. The older crowd as a whole=20 can be accoutable for thier actions. They should know better. The younger=20 crowd is very immature and is still learning about life and growing. Who's=20 to be responsible for thier actions? =20 Myself as a parent would have a hard time letting my child venture to partie= s=20 and raves. I went to several parties this weekend and seen alot of drug use=20 by some very young people. Walking around the party with thier mask on like=20 its a secret that no one knows they are inhaling vick's or something. Is=20 this the only reason many of the younger crowd goes to parties. I happen to=20 believe so. Its sad they dont go to actually socialize, or understand that=20 drugs are not the soul of the party. I feel as adults, even though adults d= o=20 use drugs, can focus on other issues. Lets all try and guide are youth. What ever a positive direction may be. W= e=20 can all be friends and lend a hand where ever it needs lending. Dont be=20 afraid to provide tough love to are youth. Scare the shit out of them if yo= u=20 have to. Tell thier parents if they are using drugs. What ever the issue=20 is. There are many more important issues in life, such as family, friends,=20 education, and respect. =20 Peace, M Groove On From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 18:51:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24969 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 18:51:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 24951 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 18:51:40 -0000 Received: from web118.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.99) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 18:51:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19990505185328.18918.rocketmail@web118.yahoomail.com> Received: from [198.70.109.23] by web118.yahoomail.com; Wed, 05 May 1999 11:53:28 PDT Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 11:53:28 -0700 (PDT) From: adam Subject: NRR: DJ Question-How do you erase a used audio cassette? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I've been recording mixes on used (one previous recording) audio cassettes and i noticed that there are "artifacts" from previous recordings that i can hear if i listen at high volume after i record over the old recording (especially in quiet parts of the new recording- the bass from the old recording can be faintly heard wrecking my mix). does anyone know of a way to erase a cassette 100% before recording on to it or do i need to use brand new tapes if i want the recording to be clean?? thanks, adam From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 19:09:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3706 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 19:08:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 3557 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 19:08:46 -0000 Received: from web304.yahoomail.com (HELO send304.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.186) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 19:08:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19990505190835.23636.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.36.254.207] by web304.yahoomail.com; Wed, 05 May 1999 12:08:35 PDT Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 12:08:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Gosiewski Subject: Why No Whirl-y-gig in SF? To: "Ball, Tera" Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --- "Ball, Tera" wrote: > But are raves really meant for children? Children love to dance ... Most of the limited range of raves that go on around here are definitely NOT for kids, But it has been shown that raves can be designed to accomodate all ages in a civilised way. And the kids who grow up dancing at Whirl_Y-Gigs have a more well rounded view of the scene than just a place to get drugs ... and the scene will be better for it in the long run... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 19:11:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5806 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 19:11:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 5657 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 19:10:59 -0000 Received: from m3.jersey.juno.com (209.67.33.61) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 19:10:59 -0000 Received: (from californiadiver@juno.com) by m3.jersey.juno.com (queuemail) id D9VKZ5L3; Wed, 05 May 1999 15:09:24 EDT To: unclenoa@netcom.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 12:10:04 -0700 Subject: Re: raver handbook..=0p Message-ID: <19990505.121005.-381517.1.californiadiver@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-3,5-53,55-58,60-63,65-66 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: californiadiver@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk anybody have a copy? californiadiver@juno.com On Tue, 4 May 1999 22:16:28 -0700 (PDT) unclenoah writes: > > >there is a "Responsible Raving Handbook" that was in circulation in >SoCal >for a while... when John Abel turned up dead after Dune, his mother >was >waving it around and reading from it on television interviews. it's >actually a very well-written little piece, but when you get angry >mothers >and an unfriendly media taking choice snippets from it out of context, >it >begins to look like a drug use guidebook instead of a book of useful >information. > >On Wed, 5 May 1999 LordNyxx@aol.com wrote: > >> Unfortunately, to many, drugs and partying are synonmyous, and will >be almost >> impossible to seperate.... >> >> The best thing that can be done, is not necessarily tell people not >to do the >> drugs that they will reguardless....but teach them to do it >responsible, give >> them tips about how to be safe and respectful to themselves and >others....to >> not over do it, to know their limits and abide by them.... >> >> For a long time now, ive seriously considered making a series of >little >> cards, to hand out to people at parties, with different tips on how >to keep >> safe on the various drugs that float around our scene....I would be >totally >> down for making this idea a reality, but would appreciate some >outside help >> and support....if anyone is interested....please let me know.... >> >> Cause if you could save one little kiddie from having to take that >trip to >> the hospital, well then, i think the time and effort would be worth >it. :) >> >> >> ::huggles:: >> gLoVeS >> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- >"Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic >or >death." - Casey Brackley >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ >GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now >info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions >714.558.7626 >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 19:33:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21270 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 19:33:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 21026 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 19:32:56 -0000 Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 19:32:56 -0000 Received: from tigger (dynamic25.pm04.sf3d.best.com [209.24.234.217]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id MAA15310; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:31:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990505123513.00a6d710@pplus.shell16.ba.best.com> X-Sender: broo51-mike@pplus.shell16.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 12:35:24 -0700 To: adam , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Mike Galetto Subject: Re: NRR: DJ Question-How do you erase a used audio cassette? In-Reply-To: <19990505185328.18918.rocketmail@web118.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk adam, there is a device that does completely erase a tape.. but u'd need to purchase it at a radio shack or some place of the sort. i forget the name of the device. Long Explanation as to y u hear previous recorded sounds: audio tapes record and playback noise using magnetic strips. if u enlarge an audio (or vhs) tape u'd see magnetic strips that are all over the tape shaped like domino pieces. when the tape passes through the magnetic recording head, that head uses a magnetic field to orient those domino shaped magnetic pieces to lay different directions on the tape. when that tape passes through a playing head that head reads what positions all the magnetic pieces are laying in and interprets that into sound. now the reason why u'll hear recorded over sounds is because of magnetic "memory". because it's all magnetized some magnetic pieces don't move as easily as others. so when u re-record over a tape a couple of the magnetic pieces that have been in a particular position for longer amounts of time don't budge as easily as other magnetic pieces might. also.. if u record over something, the same magnetic strips that require more magnetic force to re-orient may soon flip themselves back to their prior positions (cuz they're magnets).=20 so th=E1s a simple explanation of what's going on with those tapes. the device that u purchase to erase everythign essentially lines up all the magnetic strips into one direction (but on occasion some magnetic strips will flip themselves back again). th=E1s one reason why digital recording i= s so much better =3D) -mike At 11:53 AM 5/5/99 , adam wrote: >Greetings, >I've been recording mixes on used (one previous >recording) audio cassettes and i noticed that there >are "artifacts" from previous recordings that i can >hear if i listen at high volume after i record over >the old recording (especially in quiet parts of the >new recording- the bass from the old recording can be >faintly heard wrecking my mix). > >does anyone know of a way to erase a cassette 100% >before recording on to it or do i need to use brand >new tapes if i want the recording to be clean?? >thanks, >adam Have a little **FAITH** Mike Galetto Faith Family http://www.blackstone-productions.com/faith/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 19:33:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22220 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 19:33:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 22192 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 19:33:44 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 19:33:44 -0000 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.9.3/8.8.4) id MAA03196; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:33:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199905051933.MAA03196@atari.saturn5.com> Subject: Re: raver handbook..=0p To: californiadiver@juno.com Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 12:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Cc: unclenoa@netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <19990505.121005.-381517.1.californiadiver@juno.com> from "californiadiver@juno.com" at May 5, 99 12:10:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yes... -troy > > anybody have a copy? > > californiadiver@juno.com > > On Tue, 4 May 1999 22:16:28 -0700 (PDT) unclenoah > writes: > > > > > >there is a "Responsible Raving Handbook" that was in circulation in > >SoCal > >for a while... when John Abel turned up dead after Dune, his mother > >was > >waving it around and reading from it on television interviews. it's > >actually a very well-written little piece, but when you get angry > >mothers > >and an unfriendly media taking choice snippets from it out of context, > >it > >begins to look like a drug use guidebook instead of a book of useful > >information. > > > >On Wed, 5 May 1999 LordNyxx@aol.com wrote: > > > >> Unfortunately, to many, drugs and partying are synonmyous, and will > >be almost > >> impossible to seperate.... > >> > >> The best thing that can be done, is not necessarily tell people not > >to do the > >> drugs that they will reguardless....but teach them to do it > >responsible, give > >> them tips about how to be safe and respectful to themselves and > >others....to > >> not over do it, to know their limits and abide by them.... > >> > >> For a long time now, ive seriously considered making a series of > >little > >> cards, to hand out to people at parties, with different tips on how > >to keep > >> safe on the various drugs that float around our scene....I would be > >totally > >> down for making this idea a reality, but would appreciate some > >outside help > >> and support....if anyone is interested....please let me know.... > >> > >> Cause if you could save one little kiddie from having to take that > >trip to > >> the hospital, well then, i think the time and effort would be worth > >it. :) > >> > >> > >> ::huggles:: > >> gLoVeS > >> > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > >"Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic > >or > >death." - Casey Brackley > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------ > >GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now > >info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions > >714.558.7626 > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/Casey3.wav <- Casey Kasem in rare form From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 19:35:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23284 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 19:35:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 23276 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 19:35:23 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 19:35:23 -0000 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.9.3/8.8.4) id MAA03273; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:35:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199905051935.MAA03273@atari.saturn5.com> Subject: Re: Why No Whirl-y-gig in SF? To: stefango@yahoo.com (Stefan Gosiewski) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 12:35:10 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tball@aspenmg.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <19990505190835.23636.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> from "Stefan Gosiewski" at May 5, 99 12:08:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think dancing to trance or jungle should be an option in PE classes... -troy > > > > --- "Ball, Tera" wrote: > > But are raves really meant for children? > > Children love to dance ... Most of the limited range of raves that go > on around here are definitely NOT for kids, But it has been shown that > raves can be designed to accomodate all ages in a civilised way. And > the kids who grow up dancing at Whirl_Y-Gigs have a more well rounded > view of the scene than just a place to get drugs ... and the scene will > be better for it in the long run... > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/Casey3.wav <- Casey Kasem in rare form From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 19:39:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26060 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 19:39:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 25711 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 19:39:02 -0000 Received: from pantheon-po01.its.yale.edu (130.132.143.32) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 19:39:02 -0000 Received: from [130.132.53.92] (audioboy.sm.yale.edu [130.132.53.92]) by pantheon-po01.its.yale.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09121; Wed, 5 May 1999 15:38:53 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: Sam Luckenbill@sbl23.mail.yale.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 15:38:53 -0400 To: AlexG1029@aol.com From: Samuel Luckenbill Subject: Re: E question????? Cc: Taiida@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Maybe it would be a good time to point out that while people can claim E and Raves are safe, no one ever said illegal street drugs (or even those that are prescribed to you by a doctor to you) are safe. If you choose to take drugs, you're choosing to take the risks that are associated with them. It kinda bothers me that a report of someone dying from doing drugs at a rave would surprise anyone. If you're taking E under the impression that nothing bad could happen to you ("it's just like aspirin, but better!") then you needa get a reality check. Of course people who know a lot about the drug will tell you that the risks are dehydration, etc., and that this report is probably a myth, but no one will garunt that the little white pill is actually E. It's pretty important to note that there are symptoms to these drugs being illegal. They are not regulated by anyone, and your local street pharmacist doesn't really give a shit. We've all seen ambulances at raves, and there's not really any way of explaining it, cept for drugs. hyperreal drug faq says about strychnine: "From: Handbook of Poisoning, 10th ed, R.H. Dreisbach, M.D., PhD, Lange Med. Pub. Co. Los Altos, Ca.: strychnine is lethal in 15-30 mg amounts to adult humans. (Pure nicotine is fatal at 40 mg./person; cyanide salts are fatal at about 100 mg./person) --->>Strychnine causes death by respitory failure, via increased spinal reflex excitability." sounds like a more reasonable explanation, than choking on a pill or an adverse reaction to E. Whose to say that some people aren't allergic to it, though? People are allergic to grass, people are allergic to the sun... --s From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 20:03:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16159 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 20:03:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 16141 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 20:03:51 -0000 Received: from zahn.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 20:03:51 -0000 Received: from godzilla3.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla3.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.44]) by zahn.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id PAA29676; Wed, 5 May 1999 15:58:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla3.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id PAA14240; Wed, 5 May 1999 15:58:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 15:58:50 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla3.acpub.duke.edu To: californiadiver@juno.com cc: unclenoa@netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: raver handbook..=0p In-Reply-To: <19990505.121005.-381517.1.californiadiver@juno.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk you can finf the responsible raving website online at http://www.autohelp.com/rival/responsible/index.html they probably have most of the information contained in the raver handbook. much love, amber --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 20:15:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22756 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 20:15:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 22731 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 20:15:14 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 20:15:14 -0000 Received: from BlueWAK@aol.com (14437) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rLVZa20663; Wed, 5 May 1999 16:12:24 -0400 (EDT) From: BlueWAK@aol.com Message-ID: <45b394ab.24620028@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 16:12:24 EDT Subject: Re: Pre-Sale Tickets To: eigthoz@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 52 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Speaking of the Happy Kids Fiasco....on their voice mail didn't they promise a fix-it party for those that still had pre-sales? AND didn't they have teaser flyers at F-8 not too long after that with a band-aid and uh-oh...oops..fix it....insinuating a fix-it party? Did I miss the party? Just wondering.... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 21:22:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8827 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 21:22:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 8795 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 21:22:08 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd103.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 21:22:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 2705 invoked by uid 0); 5 May 1999 21:22:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19990505212204.2704.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 130.65.111.82 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 05 May 1999 14:22:04 PDT X-Originating-IP: [130.65.111.82] From: "David Ramirez" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Metropolis Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 14:22:04 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yea.. i heard KRS One was gonna be there to.. and i saw the 1st flyer wit his name on it.. is he gonna be there?????... it would be so tite if he was doe.. david ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Ball, Tera" To: "'SFRaves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: Metropolis Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 09:47:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 From sfraves-owner-raver_hp Wed May 05 09:44:47 1999 Received: from [209.133.83.16] by hotmail.com (1.5) with SMTP id MHotMailB8F9C07F003FD1017082D185531008960; Wed May 05 09:44:47 1999 Received: (qmail 21014 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 16:45:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 21002 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 16:44:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aspen.sc-intl.com) (207.218.171.40) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 16:44:59 -0000 Received: by ASPEN with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3)id <2086QBPY>; Wed, 5 May 1999 09:47:28 -0700 Message-ID: <756B30A53DCBD111BABC00A0C981D46372ACAE@ASPEN> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The first flyer I got for Metropolis said KRS1 was going to perform. Well I haven't seen his name on any of the other flyers. Does anyone know if he dropped out? Please tell me cuz that is the only reason why I would go. Thanks. :-) Tera From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 21:22:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9312 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 21:22:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 8993 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 21:22:18 -0000 Received: from x15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 21:22:18 -0000 Received: (from elias_smith@juno.com) by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D9VTLA4A; Wed, 05 May 1999 17:21:40 EDT To: BlueWAK@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:38:55 -0700 Subject: Re: Pre-Sale Tickets Message-ID: <19990416.003856.-839555.0.Elias_Smith@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 7-21 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: the town drunk Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk As far as I know, they are still location scouting. For something like this, I'm sure they are looking for a bust-proof location and those are just ridiculously hard to find at the moment. They never set a date for the make-up, but the teaser flyers were to insinuate that they were planning one. Also, they are taking a break at the moment because they have been going pretty strong for 2 years now with no breathers. They'll be back, just hold on to your pre-sale form the 2 year and look for flyers soon. On Wed, 5 May 1999 16:12:24 EDT BlueWAK@aol.com writes: >Speaking of the Happy Kids Fiasco....on their voice mail didn't they >promise >a fix-it party for those that still had pre-sales? AND didn't they >have >teaser flyers at F-8 not too long after that with a band-aid and >uh-oh...oops..fix it....insinuating a fix-it party? Did I miss the >party? >Just wondering.... > > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 21:44:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21931 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 21:44:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 21922 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 21:44:20 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 21:44:20 -0000 Received: from GParry1925@aol.com (14418) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vTTHa27692 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 17:42:47 -0400 (EDT) From: GParry1925@aol.com Message-ID: <3ae9fd0b.24621556@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 17:42:46 EDT Subject: Parties in Spain?? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm going to Spain this summer and was wondering what sort of party scene they've got going on there and how to find it. If anyone could tell me anything about particular cities and where to look or whatever I'd really appreciate it. And yes, I do know about Ibiza. I'm asking more about mainland Spain. Also I've heard some interesting things about the cannibus laws there. Anyone know anything? Thanks in advance Owen From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 22:10:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6518 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 22:10:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 6490 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 22:10:18 -0000 Received: from war.ocf.berkeley.edu (root@128.32.191.89) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 22:10:18 -0000 Received: from [128.48.189.193] (kakoka.ucop.edu [128.48.189.193]) by war.OCF.Berkeley.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26496 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 15:10:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: gta@mail.ocf.berkeley.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990505123513.00a6d710@pplus.shell16.ba.best.com> References: <19990505185328.18918.rocketmail@web118.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 15:09:35 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Gabriel Alvaro Subject: Re: NRR: DJ Question-How do you erase a used audio cassette? Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk When I worked in radio, we just called the device a "bulker" or a "bulk eraser" or something like that. -G At 12:35 PM -0700 5/5/99, Mike Galetto wrote: >adam, > >there is a device that does completely erase a tape.. but u'd need to >purchase it at a radio shack or some place of the sort. i forget the name >of the device. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 22:17:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10683 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 22:17:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 10673 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 22:17:26 -0000 Received: from netcom8.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.117) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 22:17:26 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom8.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id PAA04828; Wed, 5 May 1999 15:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 15:17:10 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Re: NRR: DJ Question-How do you erase a used audio cassettes To: Gabriel Alvaro cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk those devices are just big magnets (i remember at KDVS we had one that was an electromagnet that was activated by a footswitch). if you go to your local hardware store and buy a big strong magnet, you can erase cassettes, DATs, floppy disks, video tapes... and you can make fun colors appear on your TV screen or other CRT devices! :D On Wed, 5 May 1999, Gabriel Alvaro wrote: > When I worked in radio, we just called the device a "bulker" or a "bulk > eraser" or something like that. > > -G > > > At 12:35 PM -0700 5/5/99, Mike Galetto wrote: > >adam, > > > >there is a device that does completely erase a tape.. but u'd need to > >purchase it at a radio shack or some place of the sort. i forget the name > >of the device. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 22:36:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20676 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 22:36:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 20668 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 22:36:10 -0000 Received: from sco.sco.com (132.147.128.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 22:36:10 -0000 Received: from novasco.sco.COM(132.147.178.252) via SMTP by sco.sco.COM, id smtpdEAAa003df; Wed May 5 15:35:10 1999 Received: from lesleymo.sco.com by novasco.sco.com id aa07407; 5 May 99 15:29 PDT Message-ID: <3730C61A.47789DDB@sco.com> Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 15:28:42 -0700 From: Lesley Mortell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GParry1925@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Parties in Spain?? References: <3ae9fd0b.24621556@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You must, must must go to Barcelona - in my opionion it is one of the most beautiful cities in the world architecturally (you must see Gaudi's buildings) and a buzzing, lively place too. Time-Outs Guide starts by saying that "Barcelona has always been a great city for eccentrics - it has indulged and even promoted them" http://www.timeout.com/barcelona/ also in June there is Sonar - the 'Electronic Music Conference' which is very techno oriented and a great deal of fun (you get to play with loads of new noise making gadgets and stuff and all the detroit guys turn-out). Jimi Tenor lives there - so what more can one say..... Lesley GParry1925@aol.com wrote: > > I'm going to Spain this summer and was wondering what sort of party scene > they've got going on there and how to find it. If anyone could tell me > anything about particular cities and where to look or whatever I'd really > appreciate it. And yes, I do know about Ibiza. I'm asking more about > mainland Spain. Also I've heard some interesting things about the cannibus > laws there. Anyone know anything? > > Thanks in advance > > Owen From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 22:41:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25731 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 22:41:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 25709 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 22:41:54 -0000 Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 22:41:54 -0000 Received: from best.com ([216.132.92.5]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id PAA00469; Wed, 5 May 1999 15:39:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3730C866.D0AF83C9@best.com> Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 15:38:30 -0700 From: just jer Organization: @spire X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: unclenoah CC: Gabriel Alvaro , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: DJ Question-How do you erase a used audio cassettes References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk unclenoah wrote: > > those devices are just big magnets (i remember at KDVS we had one that > was an electromagnet that was activated by a footswitch). if you go to > your local hardware store and buy a big strong magnet, you can erase > cassettes, DATs, floppy disks, video tapes... and you can make fun > colors appear on your TV screen or other CRT devices! :D > hey noah... it would probably be a good idea to let them know that putting magnets near your monitor or tv isn't a good idea because it can actually cause permanent fuck ups that'll require you to take your tv or monitor to a repair shop to fix it. in other words, don't try it on your own stuff, but feel free to put magnets near other peoples monitors or tvs. =) - jer From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 22:49:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28902 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 22:49:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 28868 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 22:48:58 -0000 Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (209.185.123.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 22:48:58 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by angelfire.com; Wed May 5 15:48:17 1999 To: GParry1925@aol.com Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 15:48:17 -0700 From: "Electric Joy Boy" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org X-Sent-Mail: on Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: Parties in Spain?? X-Sender-Ip: 206.66.135.218 Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey Owen, Madrid has a really great party scene unique to the area based on the early 90's Ruta de Bakalao. This was a two to three day road/party/drug trip between Madrid and other Spanish towns and party spots. Consequently, you can still find plenty of clubs and ungergrounds (esp if you have access to a car)that are divided into evening (12-6) Afterhours (6-12) and Mid Days (10-Whenever) A good place to start meeting people is a club called the Bali Hai in Madrid. Barcelona is supposed to be a more cosmopolitan, European city. I've never been there but I've heard that the club scene is more Euro Cheez and international(e.g. more hip-hop, spuma parties, top 40) Sevilla and along the South of Spain, Salamanca & Granada have some pretty unique flavors too. A little more bar and rock scene however. The "Time Out" guides for Madrid and Barcelona also have a pretty good clubbing section. If you go to some of the parties they have listed there you can meet people who will take you to the other parties. Most of the people I met would party from Friday night to Monday morning only breaking for food. Some people call this a culture of excess... ----- Hash is generally decriminalized there but be careful is not as liberal as it used to be. You can no longer walk down a downtown street smoking a joint. There is also an abundance of stimulant drugs in the dance scene (coke, damn strong coffee, and "Pastillas." Pastillas are E concoctions that are actually pretty good, according to reports I've heard. People, however, are not as forthcomming about their drug use as they are in say California. If you start meeting people though you can get hooked up. Hope this helps and that you have a great time. Ben -- On Wed, 5 May 1999 17:42:46 GParry1925 wrote: >I'm going to Spain this summer and was wondering what sort of party scene >they've got going on there and how to find it. If anyone could tell me >anything about particular cities and where to look or whatever I'd really >appreciate it. And yes, I do know about Ibiza. I'm asking more about >mainland Spain. Also I've heard some interesting things about the cannibus >laws there. Anyone know anything? > >Thanks in advance > >Owen > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 23:17:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17899 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 23:17:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 17876 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 23:17:39 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 23:17:39 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (88) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vANRa20904 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 19:16:06 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <5591d9f8.24622b36@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 19:16:06 EDT Subject: Re: Parties in Spain?? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/5/1999 3:49:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, digitalmindtraveler@angelfire.com writes: << Hash is generally decriminalized there but be careful is not as liberal as it used to be. You can no longer walk down a downtown street smoking a joint. There is also an abundance of stimulant drugs in the dance scene (coke, damn strong coffee, and "Pastillas." Pastillas are E concoctions that are actually pretty good, according to reports I've heard. People, however, are not as forthcomming about their drug use as they are in say California. If you start meeting people though you can get hooked up. Hope this helps and that you have a great time. Ben >> This post drives home exactly what I mentioned in my earlier post regarding kids in our scene. Does anyone know how old Owen is. Well he is 16. Great kid. I just chatted with him for awhile. And here Ben is telling this kid how to get hooked up with drugs while he is on his trip. Now if it was me, and I was traveling abroad for a summer trip. Id rather enjoy the site and culture rather than be all cracked out on my trip. And people wonder why the scene has a certain image. Be responsible people. By the way, Ben, I did enjoy all the other info you had to offer. Peace, M Groove On From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 23:39:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 461 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 23:39:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 448 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 23:39:09 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 23:39:09 -0000 Received: from Sera13@aol.com (231) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3STUa24046 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 19:37:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Sera13@aol.com Message-ID: <579cf6a3.24623024@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 19:37:08 EDT Subject: Does anyone know about the one they call SHINE?????? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am just wondering if anyone could help me with this dj! I tried to email the NW kids, but no one got back to me.....poor me. That is the goods....... Cherries, Sera From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 23:47:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5929 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 23:47:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 5911 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 23:47:26 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 23:47:26 -0000 Received: from MissNexa@aol.com (14431) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLGOa07562 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 19:45:57 -0400 (EDT) From: MissNexa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 19:46:05 EDT Subject: Re: NRR, but KRR: things that are irritating people at the moment. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 120 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, I WAS about to post a **BP** up for this Friday on SFR and a few other lists, but due to some technical difficulties, I cannot, which is why I am adding onto this whole thread of schtuffs. So I call my b/f up on the phone today during drama class, just to chat and say hi (I do work, today is just not our day to rehearse onstage), and so I ask him where his first gig is going to be at this Friday, and I already talked to him about almost everything about the party except for the location (and the fact that it's 21+)...... "So, where's that place in SF that you're going to be spinning at?" "Uhhh, it's a 21 and over party...." Hrmmm that isn't stopping a few of our under 21 friends from going....ugh. SO! ANYWAYS, it happens to be at a Club Cocomo (or something??? I cant spell) and it's an Ultra Nectar party and the Mermen are supposd to be playing as well, and a few other Djs spinning trance, house, and jungle.... I'll just be watching our school's musical instead. and the beat goes on... ---> Christle From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 05 23:55:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8902 invoked by uid 6000); 5 May 1999 23:55:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 8886 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 23:54:59 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 23:54:59 -0000 Received: from MissNexa@aol.com (14431) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rSGa020904; Wed, 5 May 1999 19:38:35 -0400 (EDT) From: MissNexa@aol.com Message-ID: <6d72b491.2462307b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 19:38:35 EDT Subject: Re: Pre-Sale Tickets To: BlueWAK@aol.com, eigthoz@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 120 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk No, you didnt miss nay a thing at all, email hki for more info on that :-P and the beat goes on... --> Miss Nexa From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 00:11:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18881 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 00:11:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 18823 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 00:10:59 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 00:10:59 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (541) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vTMAa16060 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 20:10:16 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <92329518.246237e6@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 20:10:14 EDT Subject: Re: raver handbook..=0p To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok, i don't know Who this goes out to cuz a million and one people said that they were gonna get it together and do it so whoever actually does(even if it's more than one, although i think it would be more useful if we all did it together) please e-mail me cuz i am very enthusiastic about helping out in any way i can. i just did a report on E for school so i have a buncha great websites to go to to get info. and on this whole save a tree thing....well how 'bout save a life??? we all know that drugs aren't gonna disappear but if we can prevent at least ONE person from ODing, or getting one person to start going to parties sober, i really think it's worth it. and hey, maybe a buncha trees will come and attack me in the night, but this really is for a good cause. alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 00:24:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26355 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 00:24:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 26064 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 00:24:10 -0000 Received: from relay.interim.iamworld.net (204.91.241.82) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 00:24:10 -0000 Received: from xtc (98CD7CCA.ipt.aol.com [152.205.124.202]) by relay.interim.iamworld.net (8.9.1a/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA24872 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 20:24:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00da01be9756$142986c0$ca7ccd98@xtc> From: "Mike" To: Subject: RE: DJ Question-How do you erase a used audio cassette? Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 19:19:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well... It is one of two things. Either you are using a cheap deck to record with or you are using metal tapes. I ran into the same thing a few years ago. I tried recording over a high quality Maxell (i think) metal tape and you could hear everything that was originally on the tape. So I thought, hmm.. Lets stick the tape on a big speaker magnet, that will surely erase it. NOT!! We left it on the magnet for like a day or two and you could still hear both recordings!! The moral to the story is never buy metal tapes. I prefer Maxell XLII S, but the XLII's are pretty good if you dont want to spend the extra cash. p.s. If you find a way to get rid of the recordings on metal tapes let me know.. peace Mike > >>Greetings, >>I've been recording mixes on used (one previous >>recording) audio cassettes and i noticed that there >>are "artifacts" from previous recordings that i can >>hear if i listen at high volume after i record over >>the old recording (especially in quiet parts of the >>new recording- the bass from the old recording can be >>faintly heard wrecking my mix). >> >>does anyone know of a way to erase a cassette 100% >>before recording on to it or do i need to use brand >>new tapes if i want the recording to be clean?? >>thanks, >>adam >> > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 00:39:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3751 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 00:39:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 3742 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 00:39:15 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 00:39:15 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (530) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3YAFa17021 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 20:37:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 20:37:56 EDT Subject: 1015 folsom tonight ? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok. . . I've never been there and I don't know if it's like a weekly party or a regular club, or if it's a normal club but on diffirent days it's diffirent parties or what. I want to go like NOW if it is tonight. I'll probably go by anyway. . . Thanks Huggz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 00:44:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6816 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 00:44:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 6770 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 00:44:16 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 00:44:16 -0000 Received: from WizardCCCA@aol.com (8035) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vDSCa07563 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 20:41:33 -0400 (EDT) From: WizardCCCA@aol.com Message-ID: <64fa57b5.24623f51@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 20:41:53 EDT Subject: Re: Metropolis To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey everyone.... Sorry if someone posted about this already, but I was wondering about the lineup and who is throwing this party.... I heard about it and thought it sounded pretty good, so any info you have would be wonderful!!!! And also... who is planning on going to this? Much PLUR, Liz From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 00:46:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8602 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 00:46:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 8593 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 00:46:23 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 00:46:23 -0000 Received: from Laalkuchaa@aol.com (8062) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vFWAa02444 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 20:44:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Laalkuchaa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 20:44:43 EDT Subject: Re: NRR HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 200 rounds of ammunition: $70 2 ski masks: $24 2 black trenchcoats: $260 Seeing the expression on your classmates' faces right before you blow their heads off -- priceless. There are some things money can't buy, for everything else there's MasterCard. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 00:47:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10562 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 00:47:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 10554 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 00:47:44 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 00:47:44 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (530) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3XTEa24272; Wed, 5 May 1999 20:45:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <6c229b71.2462403d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 20:45:49 EDT Subject: Re: E question????? To: Taiida@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Maybe she was allergic ? People seem to allergic to the strangest things. . . I've read that E does raise your body temperature significantly at times. . . I've read of people in hot conditions on E passing into a coma from their body temperature rising too high.. . . I guess like rolling hard on e and jumping into a hot tub is a bad idea. . . also, if you drank alcohol. . . wasn't there some danger of going into a hot tub drunk too. . . because it raises your body temp too high ??? Hmmmm. . . check ya later dudemeisters. . . Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 00:52:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12681 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 00:52:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 12667 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 00:51:55 -0000 Received: from law-f26.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.89) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 00:51:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 94030 invoked by uid 0); 6 May 1999 00:52:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19990506005203.94029.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.236.45.61 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 05 May 1999 17:52:03 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.236.45.61] From: "Wil Hanno" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 17:52:03 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk not funny From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 00:56:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15650 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 00:56:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 15639 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 00:56:39 -0000 Received: from fillmore1.paix.cp.net (HELO fillmore.criticalpath.net) (209.228.15.77) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 00:56:39 -0000 Received: (cpmta 17316 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 17:56:38 -0700 Date: 5 May 1999 17:56:38 -0700 Message-ID: <19990506005638.17315.cpmta@fillmore.criticalpath.net> X-Sent: 6 May 1999 00:56:38 GMT Received: from [207.251.8.152] by mail.club.net with HTTP; 05 May 1999 17:56:38 PDT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Tabitha Hanrion X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.0 Subject: Ecstasy=Parkinson's? Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ecstasy May Be Linked To Parkinson's Disease BOSTON (Reuters) - Repeated use of the hallucinogen ecstasy can lead to Parkinson's disease, three University of Michigan doctors have suggested in a letter to the New England Journal of Medicine. The claim is based on the case of a 29-year-old man who had taken ecstasy nine times in 1997 and once in May 1998, three months before he began developing symptoms. At first, he seemed clumsier than normal. Then, over a one-month period, he began to have trouble walking, and lost his ability to write and drive. Tests showed he had Parkinson's disease, a brain condition that typically appears in middle-aged and elderly people. It results in stiff, weak and trembling muscles, and an unbalanced walk. ``Although we have no firm evidence of a causal relation between this patient's drug use and his parkinsonism, there are no other tenable explanations,'' said the doctors, led by Scott Mintzer. The patient's symptoms did not improve with drug treatment. The psychotropic drug popular with some U.S. psychiatrists and psychologists in the 1970s and '80s for relationship therapy, was never approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. A 1995 Johns Hopkins study linked ecstasy with brain damage in animals. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 00:58:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16547 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 00:58:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 16537 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 00:58:28 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 00:58:28 -0000 Received: from WizardCCCA@aol.com (8035) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vBLLa03427 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 20:56:59 -0400 (EDT) From: WizardCCCA@aol.com Message-ID: <96337020.246242e4@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 20:57:08 EDT Subject: Re: NRR HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ya know, I guess because I am in Colorado, and because on the Sunday of the Columbine Memorial I stood on the hill overlooking the school and I wept with everyone else looking at the cross, the flowers and the stuffed animals, and held my boyfriend as he cried his eyes out...... I just don't find this funny.... maybe I am weird or something.... but I really think you should try and respect those of us on the list who are mourning the loss of these high school students. Just a thought and my $0.02. PLUR, Liz In a message dated 5/5/99 6:46:36 PM, Laalkuchaa@aol.com writes: << 200 rounds of ammunition: $70 2 ski masks: $24 2 black trenchcoats: $260 Seeing the expression on your classmates' faces right before you blow their heads off -- priceless. There are some things money can't buy, for everything else there's MasterCard. >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 01:10:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21897 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 01:10:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 21884 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 01:10:44 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 01:10:44 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA27993; Wed, 5 May 1999 18:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id BAA04908; Thu, 6 May 1999 01:08:13 GMT From: "MooK<><" To: , "SFRaves" Subject: RE: NRR HAHAHAHA- NOT! Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 18:16:22 -0700 Message-ID: <001601be975e$0df3e400$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk this is just plain sick. MooK<>< > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of Laalkuchaa@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 5:45 PM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: NRR HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA > > > 200 rounds of ammunition: $70 > > 2 ski masks: $24 > > 2 black trenchcoats: $260 > > Seeing the expression on your classmates' faces right before you blow > their heads off -- priceless. > > There are some things money can't buy, for everything else there's > MasterCard. > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 01:29:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29220 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 01:29:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 29206 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 01:29:34 -0000 Received: from wya-oe15.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.80) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 01:29:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 44533 invoked by uid 0); 6 May 1999 01:30:24 -0000 Message-ID: <19990506013024.44532.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 171.72.5.11 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 05 May 1999 18:30:23 PDT X-Originating-IP: [171.72.5.11] From: "Lucy Fur" To: GParry1925@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Parties in Spain?? Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 18:30:23 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i traveled throughout spain this past summer and found that seville ended up having a lot of cool supper clubs and dance bars. you can find them along the river...in the area where they had the world's fair. madrid also has a number of smaller clubs and bars around plaza santa ana...that's pretty much where the scene resides. pretty cool, actually. there's another part of town...chuecos i think it's called...that's a lot like the castro scene. maybe even a bit wilder at times. the parties here start at like 2 am and i'm serious everyone is out and about until 6 or 7am. that's pretty much a standard all over the country. barcelona has tons of smaller clubs and venues, more hipster style around the midsection of ramblas. you'll find the larger ones by olympic village and at the very end of ramblas along the water. there's actually this "mall" of clubs pretty much...i forget the name...starts with an M. you have to cross a wood bridge to get to it. we cruised around there but found it very trendy...almost frat like. there's miniature golf in there and tons of different types of bars, arcades, dance spots. it's crawling with young people. there's a few more hip clubs around olympic village. i went to one there...can't remember the name which was very hip. glass floors and elevators with a rooftop patio. if you walk down ramblas at night, you'll find tons of people handing out fliers so you really won't have a problem finding places to hang at. the topper is definitely ibiza. i'm actually going back there this summer to stay for a longer and mellower trip. it's really cool to cruise between islands and just relax. the daytime parties there are the best i think. space...borabora... a few hip beaches where people just chill with djs nearby. regardless of where you are....check out pacha!!! that is THE club of spain. you'll find it in a variety of cities...the most incredible being in ibiza. i know there's one is barcelona though...somewhere around the club mall i was talking about. hope that helps. you can email me back if you want more info. i've got lots of info on stuff out there and have partied there a few times. mg >From: GParry1925@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Parties in Spain?? >Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 17:42:46 EDT > >I'm going to Spain this summer and was wondering what sort of party scene >they've got going on there and how to find it. If anyone could tell me >anything about particular cities and where to look or whatever I'd really >appreciate it. And yes, I do know about Ibiza. I'm asking more about >mainland Spain. Also I've heard some interesting things about the >cannibus >laws there. Anyone know anything? > >Thanks in advance > >Owen From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 01:30:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 473 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 01:30:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 463 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 01:30:33 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 01:30:33 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com (393) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vEAFa10991; Wed, 5 May 1999 21:29:07 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: <41a845d3.24624a62@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 21:29:06 EDT Subject: Re: E question????? To: AlexG1029@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Why do people die from taking http://www.ukcia.org/lib/research/ukedeath.htm From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 01:33:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1508 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 01:33:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 1476 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 01:33:13 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 01:33:13 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (363) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id cWDOa27691; Wed, 5 May 1999 21:27:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 21:27:33 EDT Subject: Re: 1015 folsom tonight ? To: mcarey@triad.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Bad ass ? I'm goin. . . I'll see whoever there, the only thing I know I'll be wearing is like off white pants, white shoes, and no hat but spikey bleached hair. . . HUGZzzz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 01:36:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2621 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 01:36:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 2613 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 01:36:06 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 01:36:06 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com (7822) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vWCQa16142 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 21:34:34 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <39eb859a.24624b9f@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 21:34:23 EDT Subject: drug info booths and what not To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok, so more and more i am becomming concerned for some of the kids i see at parties... and some of the stories i hear..... i'm not the poster child for sobriety either, but i'd like to think that i am somewhat educated and responsible when it comes to knowing my limits and taking care of myself.... so here is my thing... i probably can't organize anything, but i am willing to make a few phone calls and stuff and see if maybe local hospitals, clinic, the police or whatever have some drug info pamphlets availible, and if they would be willing to donate them to set up a both at parties... i'm also willing to help set up and run this booth too, because i am just way to scared for the future of our scene and for some of the kids out there..... so my question is, who else wants to get involved with this... i am gonna say right out i can't do it alone, but if we can get together a few heads to help out i think we could have things underway by this summer at least.... so if you are interested, have suggestions, or know of someways to get a hold of the right materials contact me... i'm having off and on problems with this email address, so if you can't send it here you can send it to RavePrnces@go.com love and hugs and kisses, tina From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 02:07:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13299 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 02:07:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 13284 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 02:07:00 -0000 Received: from web804.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 02:07:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990506021147.1149.rocketmail@web804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [153.18.71.222] by web804.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 05 May 1999 19:11:47 PDT Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 19:11:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Fnord Subject: Re: drug info booths and what not To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, raveprnces@go.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --- MoonChyld1@aol.com wrote: > ok, so more and more i am becomming concerned for > some of the kids i see at > parties... and some of the stories i hear..... i'm > not the poster child for > sobriety either, but i'd like to think that i am > somewhat educated and > responsible when it comes to knowing my limits and > taking care of myself.... > > so here is my thing... i probably can't organize > anything, but i am willing > to make a few phone calls and stuff and see if maybe > local hospitals, clinic, > the police or whatever have some drug info pamphlets > availible, and if they > would be willing to donate them to set up a both at > parties... While I have the utmost respect for what you are trying to do, I think that having "drug info" booths and pamphlets set up by various government-sponsored entities would be just the next step in a slippery downhill slope to where we don't want our scene to wind up. I mean, remember DARE? Yeah, I'm a proud DARE graduate right here, and look what it's done for me. Yes, when I choose to use certain chemicals I try to do so responsibly and ensure that I am as informed about them as I can be, but this is far more in spite of than because of any publications or programs set up by our government. Let's not kid ourselves, there's a war going on, a war on drugs, and the propaganda machines are in full swing. OK, OK, I know. You'd probably make sure you weren't handing out pamhlets with totally laughable misinformation. (ie. E leaks your spinal fluid into your bloodstream, LSD is mostly strychnine, and pot makes guys grow tits.) Still, even if the information was legit, its main result would be to further cut the scene into factions who would have trouble tolerating each other, let alone having a good time together. If you see some 12 year old kid bombed out of his skull, you could probably change his life path immensely if you just talked to him for about ten minutes. But if you sat behind a booth pushing your belief at him, he'd resent you and resent what you'd have to say, and you'd have lost any chance you might have had of connecting with him in the first place. It's rebellion, and it's human nature. You can't fight it, but you can work with it. Just my 2c, -Chris From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 02:22:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18651 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 02:22:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 18643 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 02:22:02 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 02:22:02 -0000 Received: from Oct1faith@aol.com (88) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vEVFa27691; Wed, 5 May 1999 22:20:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Oct1faith@aol.com Message-ID: <74246b85.24625668@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 22:20:24 EDT Subject: Re: Just Say Know/here is the info To: WWoodliff@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I was at Hendrick apartment an he told me about this thing his wife is doing call "just say know". He ask me to a sponser. Ofcourse I said yes. other promter should too for further knowledge and full discliamer: http//WWW.SIRUS.COM/~HR4U peace, Blackstone From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 02:41:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27296 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 02:41:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 27284 invoked by uid 233); 6 May 1999 02:41:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 11071 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 23:08:14 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 May 1999 23:08:14 -0000 Received: from KRUSH594@aol.com (3962) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vCRRa10990; Wed, 5 May 1999 19:07:24 -0400 (EDT) From: KRUSH594@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 19:07:26 EDT Subject: BP: Pork Chop Hill ...Free outdoor To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, karina@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk May 15th Santa Clara Central Park 12 noon - 8 pm Djs: Shubert & Dizolve ( Dub'L Vision ) Hak & Siphon ( Urban Assualt ) Michael Liu Damon ( Atp ) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 02:45:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29965 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 02:45:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 29956 invoked by uid 233); 6 May 1999 02:45:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 24841 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 02:35:11 -0000 Received: from law-f87.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.150) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 02:35:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 12681 invoked by uid 0); 6 May 1999 02:34:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990506023444.12680.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.170.187.223 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 05 May 1999 19:34:43 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.170.187.223] From: "michael waldren" To: Laalkuchaa@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 19:34:43 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That was about as funny as a heart attack. What kinda sick fuck would consider that comedy. Peoples lives were brutally taken for no apperent reason and you wann be the smart ass. I cannot remember the last time i was so sickened by an e-mail. signed "your pissed off junglist" Mikey >From: Laalkuchaa@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: NRR HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA >Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 20:44:43 EDT > >200 rounds of ammunition: $70 > > 2 ski masks: $24 > > 2 black trenchcoats: $260 > > Seeing the expression on your classmates' faces right before you blow > their heads off -- priceless. > > There are some things money can't buy, for everything else there's > MasterCard. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 02:51:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1299 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 02:51:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 1285 invoked by uid 233); 6 May 1999 02:50:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 973 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 02:48:10 -0000 Received: from mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (HELO mailsorter-105-1.bryant.webtv.net) (209.240.198.119) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 02:48:10 -0000 Received: from mailtod-141.iap.bryant.webtv.net (mailtod-141.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.198.128]) by mailsorter-105-1.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.gso.08Dec97) with ESMTP id TAA06603; Wed, 5 May 1999 19:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from production@localhost) by mailtod-141.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/mt.gso.26Feb98) id TAA17026; Wed, 5 May 1999 19:48:09 -0700 (PDT) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQuTrMr/yZpEWbWs6rmpTihv3Q5wgIUWoABh1OV+JT4f2gL1brim9N2BV4= From: pEEEkagirl@webtv.net (rachelle) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 19:48:08 -0700 (PDT) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: regarding gay ravers!!! Message-ID: <8211-373102E8-3171@mailtod-141.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In regards to "goodvibes@geocites.com's" e-mail to everyone at sfraves: I dont know if everyone has read his comment on "gayvers"...but please do. First off, I am gay, and do not appreciate the remark he made to "gay" people; I was literally disgusted by what he had to say about them... a piece of what he said "...gay people are evil, they eat mexicans and dogs..." now i personally have never met a gay person who eats mexicans and dogs; let alone a straight person doing that either. Anyway, EVERYONE has the right to rave; gay, straight, bisexual, transgender, etc... Obviously, the "L" in PLUR is disappearing as well as the "R"...And the peace has been gone and the unity is slowly dying too. This world is falling apart day by day, and all some people can do is make it worse by being homophobic, as well as racist. Don't worry about other people's lives, worry about your own...It seems like you might need to by that e-mail you sent to every raver at sfraves.com...remember raving is about PLUR!!! Bring back the pieces we are losing. I've been raving for years and many who have agree with me...This "scene" is dying or losing its faith, love, respect, responsiblity, unity, peace and good people because of people that cant love all!!! Please everyone this is supposed to be why we all do it and not to forget for the GREAT MUSIC, ATMOSPHERE & ____ (YOU FEEL IN THE BLANK WITH WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE) P.S. raving has made me a better person in a lot of ways, and brought me many great, memorable memories...PLUR thanks love, rachelle From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 02:54:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3161 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 02:54:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 3153 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 02:54:54 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 02:54:54 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (229) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLDQa27691 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 22:53:50 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <2be9818a.24625e3f@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 22:53:51 EDT Subject: Re: regarding gay ravers!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Pual E Wog claims another victim. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 03:00:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5691 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 03:00:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 5683 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 03:00:44 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 03:00:44 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (14369) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3AHPa16142 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 22:58:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <6e56f753.24625f52@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 22:58:26 EDT Subject: Re: drug info booths and what not To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It isn't all necessarily drug info booths, the booklets I have an idea for are more like a fun kind of interesting informative piece or artistic material, and if I had whatever kind of booth setup, I would definately have more than a ton of one thing. . . keep it interesting, that's how you do it. . . when have you known a drug experienced teenager to have a long attention span ??? Peace A A-Dogg From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 03:08:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9017 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 03:08:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 9003 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 03:08:13 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 03:08:13 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com (14417) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2OTIa15861; Wed, 5 May 1999 22:59:09 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: <42943166.24625f7c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 22:59:08 EDT Subject: Re: regarding gay ravers!!! To: pEEEkagirl@webtv.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I personally think we should blame Paul for everything bad in our scene because its all his fault and no one should have a snese of humor... come they eat mexicans and dogs? you really think he was serious well you know what fuck dogs i hate them i dont think dogs should ever let into a party Matthew my isp says the password isnt valid so hes stuck using aol and paying extra for it... damn communist bastards From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 03:16:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11998 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 03:16:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 11990 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 03:16:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO next-mail.hightrend.com) (209.31.33.216) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 03:16:23 -0000 Received: from alldigitalclub.com (10.1.1.69 [10.1.1.69]) by next-mail.hightrend.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id GGJAQMMN; Wed, 5 May 1999 20:24:42 -0700 Message-ID: <3707C79F.9E02F42C@alldigitalclub.com> Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 20:12:17 +0000 From: Vitaly Golomb Reply-To: vitaly@alldigitalclub.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=95=95=95VORG=95=95=95?= This Saturday the 8th (bsp) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------BB1CED855A7ADC7626F0FDAA" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --------------BB1CED855A7ADC7626F0FDAA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hope everybody is ready for the big one. Most of you already know all the info. We have a fantastic line up, lots (I mean lots) of fans, amazing lighting (no bs), crazy never before seen laser show, and four corrner sound in three rooms. THIS WILL BE PRE-SALE ONLY!!! ($20 plus store service charge) Get yer tickets fast, because they are guaranteed to sell out. For directions and info line congestions sake we will release the location: 2nd and Jax. Your line up: 3 ROOMS FILLED WITH:, John Kelly special 2hr. set (Funky Desert Breaks * Moonshine Records LA), Astral Matrix LIVE!!! (o.o.b.e. Music SF) , Troy Roberts (Global Phases Seattle) , Mars & Mystre (Frequency 8) , Justin Hale (Simply Cosmic) , Thomas Trouble (Trance and Jungle Factory * Vorg), Greg Sandler (Harmony * Vorg), Dyloot (Skills * MHZ * HK), Tom Slik (T&J Factory * Skills), J-Bot (Harmonics), Gianni (Spundae * Harmonics), Zoran (Vorg), DJ D (T&J Factory * Vorg), Ryan Wilber (NBC * Harmonics * Vorg), Erik Brown (NBC * Harmonics), Atomic DJ (Vorg * BASS Records) , Diversion (Vorg) , Ariel-Cybana (Vorg) , Merlyn (Vorg). Pre-sale @ Harmonics 707.571.8747, T&J Factory 510.704.9876, f-8 415.221.4142, Group 3 BASS Records 510.796.3570, Solid Grooves 408.248.6399, Music CD World 650.938.7555, Mixology 707.526.1230 - MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE TBA CALL OUR 24HR INFO LINE 415.750.3100 Thank you very much, we love you all, see you at the party!!! Vitaly, VORG P.S. There will be water for sale by the Nomad Interactive staff who run the venue (not VORG), they will also have some free water in coolers as usual. --------------BB1CED855A7ADC7626F0FDAA Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hope everybody is ready for the big one.

Most of you already know all the info.  We have a fantastic line up, lots (I mean lots) of fans, amazing lighting (no bs), crazy never before seen laser show, and four corrner sound in three rooms.  THIS WILL BE PRE-SALE ONLY!!!  ($20 plus store service charge) Get yer tickets fast, because they are guaranteed to sell out.  For directions and info line congestions sake we will release the location: 2nd and Jax.

Your line up:

3 ROOMS FILLED WITH:, John Kelly  special 2hr. set (Funky Desert Breaks * Moonshine Records LA), Astral Matrix LIVE!!! (o.o.b.e. Music SF) , Troy Roberts (Global Phases Seattle) , Mars & Mystre (Frequency 8) , Justin Hale (Simply Cosmic) , Thomas Trouble (Trance and Jungle Factory * Vorg), Greg Sandler (Harmony * Vorg), Dyloot (Skills * MHZ * HK), Tom Slik (T&J Factory * Skills), J-Bot (Harmonics), Gianni (Spundae * Harmonics), Zoran (Vorg), DJ D (T&J Factory * Vorg), Ryan Wilber (NBC * Harmonics * Vorg), Erik Brown (NBC * Harmonics), Atomic DJ (Vorg * BASS Records) , Diversion (Vorg) , Ariel-Cybana (Vorg) , Merlyn (Vorg).

Pre-sale @ Harmonics 707.571.8747, T&J Factory 510.704.9876, f-8
415.221.4142, Group 3 BASS Records 510.796.3570, Solid Grooves 408.248.6399, Music CD World 650.938.7555, Mixology 707.526.1230 -

MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE TBA CALL OUR 24HR INFO LINE

415.750.3100

Thank you very much, we love you all, see you at the party!!!

Vitaly, VORG

P.S. There will be water for sale by the Nomad Interactive staff who run the venue (not VORG), they will also have some free water in coolers as usual. --------------BB1CED855A7ADC7626F0FDAA-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 03:27:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17841 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 03:27:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 17822 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 03:27:10 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 03:27:10 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA03132; Wed, 5 May 1999 22:26:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca6-26.ix.netcom.com(209.110.225.90) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma003099; Wed May 5 22:26:06 1999 Message-ID: <004201be9770$04c1e5a0$03000004@ix.netcom.com> From: "Happy Kids" To: Cc: References: <39eb859a.24624b9f@aol.com> Subject: DRUG INFO!!! Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 20:24:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey, i have a publication that i've put together from a south african rave website that is fully informative of drugs and their effects and dangers. it's really tiny text and alot of it but it's REALLY good stuff + positive. we tried to pass it out to everyone at our 2-year in janurary but i don't think people were into reading it then. i'd attach it but it wouldn't look so hot scanned as it's really small. the link is below. hope it helps some of the kids out there that haven't been looking out fer themselves and their friends lately. PLEASE, if you have it within you, take the time to create a publication that is more eye-friendly and is likely to be actually read. we REALLY need to educate all the newbies. i was taken care of when i got into the scene years ago - i don't see that happening anymore and it saddens me. http://www.pcb.co.za/users/ravesafe/ lotsa love -i ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 6:34 PM Subject: drug info booths and what not > ok, so more and more i am becomming concerned for some of the kids i see at > parties... and some of the stories i hear..... i'm not the poster child for > sobriety either, but i'd like to think that i am somewhat educated and > responsible when it comes to knowing my limits and taking care of myself.... > > so here is my thing... i probably can't organize anything, but i am willing > to make a few phone calls and stuff and see if maybe local hospitals, clinic, > the police or whatever have some drug info pamphlets availible, and if they > would be willing to donate them to set up a both at parties... i'm also > willing to help set up and run this booth too, because i am just way to > scared for the future of our scene and for some of the kids out there..... > so my question is, who else wants to get involved with this... i am gonna say > right out i can't do it alone, but if we can get together a few heads to help > out i think we could have things underway by this summer at least.... so if > you are interested, have suggestions, or know of someways to get a hold of > the right materials contact me... > i'm having off and on problems with this email address, so if you can't send > it here you can send it to > RavePrnces@go.com > > love and hugs and kisses, > tina > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 03:29:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19134 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 03:29:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 19125 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 03:29:35 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 03:29:35 -0000 Received: from Juju0322@aol.com (7818) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2NKYa27692; Wed, 5 May 1999 23:22:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Juju0322@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 23:22:25 EDT Subject: What comes first?: regarding gay ravers!!! To: pEEEkagirl@webtv.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk now, i have noticed that a lot of ravers aren't straight...not "gay", but anywhere from gay, to the many different levels of being bi-, and i was thinking...are we ravers because we are bi or are we bi because we are ravers...or is it the drugs.... i personally knew that i wasn't straight before i got into the rave scene or did drugs of anykind...but...how come so many ravers are not straight...or at least it seems to me that many aren't...mabey its just the folks that i happen to run into... -Stephanie Marie- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 03:48:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26679 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 03:48:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 26643 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 03:48:26 -0000 Received: from pantheon-po03.its.yale.edu (130.132.143.34) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 03:48:26 -0000 Received: from [130.132.53.92] (audioboy.sm.yale.edu [130.132.53.92]) by pantheon-po03.its.yale.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA24286; Wed, 5 May 1999 23:48:19 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: Sam Luckenbill@sbl23.mail.yale.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 23:48:21 -0400 To: Juju0322@aol.com From: Samuel Luckenbill Subject: Re: What comes first?: regarding gay ravers!!! Cc: pEEEkagirl@webtv.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk must be the drugs. glad to see there are so many different reasons for being a raver. -s are we ravers because we are bi or are we bi because we are >ravers...or is it the drugs.... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 03:50:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28306 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 03:50:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 28297 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 03:50:25 -0000 Received: from f18.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 03:50:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 24634 invoked by uid 0); 6 May 1999 03:50:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19990506035032.24633.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.85.166.74 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 05 May 1999 20:50:32 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.85.166.74] From: "Wayne Radinsky" To: pEEEkagirl@webtv.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: regarding gay ravers!!! Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 20:50:32 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk They eat pigeon poop too!! hehe soorrryy I couldn't resist. All you people who keep taking Paul*E*Wog seriously, stop dammit!! wayne -------- >From: pEEEkagirl@webtv.net (rachelle) >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: regarding gay ravers!!! >Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 19:48:08 -0700 (PDT) > >In regards to "goodvibes@geocites.com's" >e-mail to everyone at sfraves: > >I dont know if everyone has read his comment on "gayvers"...but please >do. > >First off, I am gay, and do not appreciate the remark he made to "gay" >people; I was literally disgusted by what he had to say about them... >a piece of what he said "...gay people are evil, they eat mexicans and >dogs..." now i personally have never met a gay person who eats mexicans >and dogs; let alone a straight person doing that either. Anyway, >EVERYONE has the right to rave; gay, straight, bisexual, transgender, >etc... > >Obviously, the "L" in PLUR is disappearing as well as the "R"...And the >peace has been gone and the unity is slowly dying too. This world is >falling apart day by day, and all some people can do is make it worse by >being homophobic, as well as racist. Don't worry about other people's >lives, worry about your own...It seems like you might need to by that >e-mail you sent to every raver at sfraves.com...remember raving is about >PLUR!!! Bring back the pieces we are losing. > >I've been raving for years and many who have agree with me...This >"scene" is dying or losing its faith, love, respect, responsiblity, >unity, peace and good people because of people that cant love all!!! > >Please everyone this is supposed to be why we all do it and not to >forget for the GREAT MUSIC, ATMOSPHERE & ____ (YOU FEEL IN THE BLANK >WITH WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE) > >P.S. raving has made me a better person in a lot of ways, and brought me >many great, memorable memories...PLUR > >thanks >love, >rachelle > -- Get paid to watch ads: http://alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=ALZ893 -- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 04:12:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4769 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 04:12:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 4756 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 04:12:41 -0000 Received: from fletch.fix.net (telkionish@206.190.71.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 04:12:41 -0000 Received: from localhost (telkionish@localhost) by fletch.fix.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA18181; Wed, 5 May 1999 21:13:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 21:13:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Adair To: Juju0322@aol.com cc: pEEEkagirl@webtv.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: What comes first?: regarding gay ravers!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 5 May 1999 Juju0322@aol.com wrote: > or is it the drugs.... > Yep... its the drugs... GregerE From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 04:15:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6320 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 04:15:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 6312 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 04:15:29 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 04:15:29 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (4418) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3JLEa04815; Thu, 6 May 1999 00:14:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 00:14:06 EDT Subject: Re: What comes first?: regarding gay ravers!!! To: Juju0322@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/5/99 8:30:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Juju0322@aol.com writes: << now, i have noticed that a lot of ravers aren't straight...not "gay", but anywhere from gay, to the many different levels of being bi-, and i was thinking...are we ravers because we are bi or are we bi because we are ravers...or is it the drugs.... i personally knew that i wasn't straight before i got into the rave scene or did drugs of anykind...but...how come so many ravers are not straight...or at least it seems to me that many aren't...mabey its just the folks that i happen to run into... -Stephanie Marie- >> I think there's a large amount of bisexual raver because of the open-ness of our little community, a place where you feel free anough to do almost anything you like. . . It spawns creativity, imagination, and new experiences. . . You know. . . I have never EVER gotten any damn juju bees from any damn ice cream truck dude that weren't rock f'in hard. . . tell me. . . Am I alone on this one ??? cmon guys. . . Huggie wuggies n s%$& Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 04:40:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16093 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 04:40:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 15885 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 04:40:32 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 04:40:32 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA30800; Wed, 5 May 1999 21:40:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990505214450.007bc850@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 21:44:50 -0700 To: Aryck46@aol.com From: Carly Bourne Subject: Re: What comes first?: regarding gay ravers!!! Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >You know. . . I have never EVER gotten any damn juju bees from any damn ice >cream truck dude that weren't rock f'in hard. . . > tell me. . . > > Am I alone on this one ??? >Aryck Jujubees are ALWAYS rock hard... that's why I'm partial to Dots... soft and chewy every time. Yummy. Love, Carly *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 04:55:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21960 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 04:55:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 21812 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 04:55:51 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 04:55:51 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA11633; Wed, 5 May 1999 23:54:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca52-34.ix.netcom.com(209.110.236.226) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma011600; Wed May 5 23:54:14 1999 Message-ID: <002701be977c$495ca5e0$0c000004@ix.netcom.com> From: "Happy Kids" To: Cc: Subject: Fw: DRUG INFO!!! Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 21:52:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i didn't see this show up so i thought i'd post it again, just in case. sorry if it's a double. lotsa love -i ----- Original Message ----- From: Happy Kids To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 8:24 PM Subject: DRUG INFO!!! > hey, i have a publication that i've put together from a south african rave > website that is fully informative of drugs and their effects and dangers. > it's really tiny text and alot of it but it's REALLY good stuff + positive. > we tried to pass it out to everyone at our 2-year in janurary but i don't > think people were into reading it then. i'd attach it but it wouldn't look > so hot scanned as it's really small. the link is below. hope it helps some > of the kids out there that haven't been looking out fer themselves and their > friends lately. PLEASE, if you have it within you, take the time to create a > publication that is more eye-friendly and is likely to be actually read. we > REALLY need to educate all the newbies. i was taken care of when i got into > the scene years ago - i don't see that happening anymore and it saddens me. > > http://www.pcb.co.za/users/ravesafe/ > > lotsa love -i > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 6:34 PM > Subject: drug info booths and what not > > > > ok, so more and more i am becomming concerned for some of the kids i see > at > > parties... and some of the stories i hear..... i'm not the poster child > for > > sobriety either, but i'd like to think that i am somewhat educated and > > responsible when it comes to knowing my limits and taking care of > myself.... > > > > so here is my thing... i probably can't organize anything, but i am > willing > > to make a few phone calls and stuff and see if maybe local hospitals, > clinic, > > the police or whatever have some drug info pamphlets availible, and if > they > > would be willing to donate them to set up a both at parties... i'm also > > willing to help set up and run this booth too, because i am just way to > > scared for the future of our scene and for some of the kids out there..... > > so my question is, who else wants to get involved with this... i am gonna > say > > right out i can't do it alone, but if we can get together a few heads to > help > > out i think we could have things underway by this summer at least.... so > if > > you are interested, have suggestions, or know of someways to get a hold of > > the right materials contact me... > > i'm having off and on problems with this email address, so if you can't > send > > it here you can send it to > > RavePrnces@go.com > > > > love and hugs and kisses, > > tina > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 05:45:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6324 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 05:45:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 6316 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 05:45:09 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 05:45:09 -0000 Received: from Kandehata@aol.com (8055) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vXEIa24050 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 01:44:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Kandehata@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 01:44:38 EDT Subject: PAGING RAOULaka TRANCEBABY! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk raoul i need to ask u a question...get back to me...THANKS sorry for the spam! Aaron From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 05:45:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7205 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 05:45:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 6989 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 05:45:34 -0000 Received: from tapeheads.ednet.net (HELO mail.ednet.net) (216.112.68.132) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 05:45:34 -0000 Received: from [216.112.68.221] (HELO [10.0.0.2]) by mail.ednet.net (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b2) with ESMTP id S.0000320952 for ; Wed, 05 May 1999 22:45:34 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Sender: joe@mail.ednet.net Message-Id: Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 22:45:32 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Joe Rice Subject: [bsp] RhythMethod this Friday Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This Friday, May 7th, please join us for your monthly turn-on @ The RhythMethod Featuring an all women DJ lineup! ~*~ Cold War (Claudia) ~*~ ~*~ Melanie ~*~ ~*~ Amber~*~ 10pm-2am, 21+ over IL Pirata, 16th St @ Potrero, SF http://www.bass-station.com/rm/ Only $3 or for $10 you'll not only get in, you'll getta kewl RM tee's, FUCK YEAH! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 05:54:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12810 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 05:54:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 12802 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 05:54:31 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 05:54:31 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com (3706) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vBXDa24056 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 01:53:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: <4863c2c7.24628864@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 01:53:40 EDT Subject: (NRR) cancerous ingredients found in your shower! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I found this to be interesting. Check your shampoos for this ingredient. >>Subject: Shampoo Warning >> >>Check the ingredients listed on your shampoo bottle, and see if they have a >>substance by the name of Sodium Laureth Sulfate, or simply SLS. >> >>This substance is found in most shampoos, and the manufacturers use it >>because it produces a lot of foam and it is cheap. BUT the fact is that SLS >>is used to scrub garage floors, and it is very strong. >> >>It is also proven that it can cause cancer in the long run, and this is no >>joke. I went home and checked my shampoo (Vidal Sasoon); it doesn't contain >>it; however, others such as Vo5, Palmolive, Paul Mitchell, the new Hemp >>Shampoo contains this substance. The first ingredient listed (which means >>it is the single most prevalent ingredient) in Clairol's Herbal Essences is >>Sodium Laureth Sulfate. >> >>So I called one company, and I told them their product contains a substance >>that will cause people to have cancer. They said, "Yeah, we knew about it >>but there is nothing we can do about it because we need that substance to >>produce foam." By the way Colgate toothpaste also contains the same >>substance to produce the "bubbles". They said they are going to send me >>some information. >> >>Research has shown that in the 1980s, the chance of getting cancer is 1 out >>of 8000 and now, in the 1990s, the chances of getting cancer is 1 out of 3, >>which is very serious. >> >>So I hope that you will take this seriously and pass this on to all the >>people you know, and hopefully, we can stop "giving" ourselves the cancer >>virus. This is serious, after you have read this, pass it on to as many >>people as possible, this is not a chain letter, but it concerns our health. >> >> Michelle Hailey >> Executive Secretary >> University of Pennsylvania Health System >> Office of Legal Affairs >> (215) 662-2546 >> > > Bringing Nature Indoors for the Home and Office Environment > Essential Products for the Enhancement of Body and Mind > Ion & Light Company > 2263 1/2 Sacramento Street > San Francisco, CA 94115 > WEB: http://www.ionlight.com E-Mail: jim@ionlight.com > Phone: 1 (800) 426-1110 (415)346-1682 FAX: (415) 346-0529 > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 05:58:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14404 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 05:58:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 14389 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 05:58:09 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 05:58:09 -0000 Received: from Anachra@aol.com (8016) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vEGQa15861 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 01:57:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Anachra@aol.com Message-ID: <317e9143.24628947@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 01:57:27 EDT Subject: Re: (NRR) cancerous ingredients found in your shower! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk BAHAHAHHAHA palmolive is a dish soap isn't it? > >It is also proven that it can cause cancer in the long run, and this is no > >>joke. I went home and checked my shampoo (Vidal Sasoon); it doesn't > contain > >>it; however, others such as Vo5, Palmolive, Paul Mitchell, the new Hemp > >>Shampoo contains this substance. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 06:04:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15924 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 06:04:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 15916 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 06:04:57 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 06:04:57 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com (3706) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vCBKa24050; Thu, 6 May 1999 02:04:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: <88303bc0.24628ae7@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 02:04:23 EDT Subject: Re: (NRR) cancerous ingredients found in your shower! To: Anachra@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/5/99 10:58:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Anachra@aol.com writes: << BAHAHAHHAHA palmolive is a dish soap isn't it? Yeah, and? > >It is also proven that it can cause cancer in the long run, and this is no > >>joke. I went home and checked my shampoo (Vidal Sasoon); it doesn't > contain > >>it; however, others such as Vo5, Palmolive, Paul Mitchell, the new Hemp > >>Shampoo contains this substance. >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 06:31:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24179 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 06:31:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 24171 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 06:31:47 -0000 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (140.142.33.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 06:31:47 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id XAA21203; Wed, 5 May 1999 23:31:45 -0700 Message-ID: <017201be978a$45b31d80$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: , Subject: Re: (NRR) cancerous ingredients found in your shower! Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 23:32:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OH my goodness I will NEVER NEVER use any soap product ever again!!!!! i think i will just have to boycott everything for the rest of my life. and then i will write a lame email about it and make it sound official so others will do it. alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- Whatever happened to the MC Times done changed for the MC Every woman and man wanna MC But for what, I'll tell ya MCin' ain't for you. -=- De La Sol -----Original Message----- From: Space201@aol.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 10:54 PM Subject: (NRR) cancerous ingredients found in your shower! >I found this to be interesting. Check your shampoos for this ingredient. > >>>Subject: Shampoo Warning >>> >>>Check the ingredients listed on your shampoo bottle, and see if they have a >>>substance by the name of Sodium Laureth Sulfate, or simply SLS. >>> >>>This substance is found in most shampoos, and the manufacturers use it >>>because it produces a lot of foam and it is cheap. BUT the fact is that SLS >>>is used to scrub garage floors, and it is very strong. >>> >>>It is also proven that it can cause cancer in the long run, and this is no >>>joke. I went home and checked my shampoo (Vidal Sasoon); it doesn't contain >>>it; however, others such as Vo5, Palmolive, Paul Mitchell, the new Hemp >>>Shampoo contains this substance. The first ingredient listed (which means >>>it is the single most prevalent ingredient) in Clairol's Herbal Essences is >>>Sodium Laureth Sulfate. >>> >>>So I called one company, and I told them their product contains a substance >>>that will cause people to have cancer. They said, "Yeah, we knew about it >>>but there is nothing we can do about it because we need that substance to >>>produce foam." By the way Colgate toothpaste also contains the same >>>substance to produce the "bubbles". They said they are going to send me >>>some information. >>> >>>Research has shown that in the 1980s, the chance of getting cancer is 1 out >>>of 8000 and now, in the 1990s, the chances of getting cancer is 1 out of 3, >>>which is very serious. >>> >>>So I hope that you will take this seriously and pass this on to all the >>>people you know, and hopefully, we can stop "giving" ourselves the cancer >>>virus. This is serious, after you have read this, pass it on to as many >>>people as possible, this is not a chain letter, but it concerns our health. >>> >>> Michelle Hailey >>> Executive Secretary >>> University of Pennsylvania Health System >>> Office of Legal Affairs >>> (215) 662-2546 >>> >> >> Bringing Nature Indoors for the Home and Office Environment >> Essential Products for the Enhancement of Body and Mind >> Ion & Light Company >> 2263 1/2 Sacramento Street >> San Francisco, CA 94115 >> WEB: http://www.ionlight.com E-Mail: jim@ionlight.com >> Phone: 1 (800) 426-1110 (415)346-1682 FAX: (415) 346-0529 >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 06:36:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26297 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 06:36:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 26288 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 06:36:20 -0000 Received: from law-f243.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.208) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 06:36:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 58283 invoked by uid 0); 6 May 1999 06:35:53 -0000 Message-ID: <19990506063553.58281.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.209.44 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 05 May 1999 23:35:50 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.209.44] From: "Amber Leahey" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (NRR) cancerous ingredients found in your shower! Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 23:35:50 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The truth is there is a lot of chemicals in things we use everyday that are cancer causing agents. I learned this while working in a chemistry lab at NASA. A lot of the chemicals I used had cancer warnings on the labels. I noticed these same compounds in everyday products. Alarmingly, there are a lot of carcinogenic compounds that are not really labled so. Acetone, commonly found in nail polish remover is one. Let's not all go and throw all of our stuff out of the window now. These chemicals are almost always dose sensitive....meaning they usually fed some lab rat a ton of it or injected it into an animals bloodstream until the animal developed cancer. It's alright to be catious but you don't need to panic. I personally like using products where I understand what all the ingredients are. Amber (A.K.A. st*rgrrl) > >>It is also proven that it can cause cancer in the long run, and this is >no > >>joke. I went home and checked my shampoo (Vidal Sasoon); it doesn't >contain > >>it; however, others such as Vo5, Palmolive, Paul Mitchell, the new Hemp > >>Shampoo contains this substance. The first ingredient listed (which >means > >>it is the single most prevalent ingredient) in Clairol's Herbal Essences >is > >>Sodium Laureth Sulfate. > >> > >>So I called one company, and I told them their product contains a >substance > >>that will cause people to have cancer. They said, "Yeah, we knew about >it > >>but there is nothing we can do about it because we need that substance >to > >>produce foam." By the way Colgate toothpaste also contains the same > >>substance to produce the "bubbles". They said they are going to send me > >>some information. > >> > >>Research has shown that in the 1980s, the chance of getting cancer is 1 >out > >>of 8000 and now, in the 1990s, the chances of getting cancer is 1 out of >3, > >>which is very serious. > >> > >>So I hope that you will take this seriously and pass this on to all the > >>people you know, and hopefully, we can stop "giving" ourselves the >cancer > >>virus. This is serious, after you have read this, pass it on to as many > >>people as possible, this is not a chain letter, but it concerns our >health. > >> > >> Michelle Hailey > >> Executive Secretary > >> University of Pennsylvania Health System > >> Office of Legal Affairs > >> (215) 662-2546 > >> > > > > Bringing Nature Indoors for the Home and Office >Environment > > Essential Products for the Enhancement of Body and Mind > > Ion & Light Company > > 2263 1/2 Sacramento Street > > San Francisco, CA 94115 > > WEB: http://www.ionlight.com E-Mail: jim@ionlight.com > > Phone: 1 (800) 426-1110 (415)346-1682 FAX: (415) >346-0529 > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 07:57:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28901 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 07:57:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 28870 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 07:57:02 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 07:57:02 -0000 Received: from BBoiBreks@aol.com (316) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rWCNa16060; Thu, 6 May 1999 03:55:35 -0400 (EDT) From: BBoiBreks@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 03:55:34 EDT Subject: Re: What comes first?: regarding gay ravers!!! To: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu, Aryck46@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, maybe there's a genetic disposition to becoming a raver. Maybe ravers are born and not created. I know if I knew that my child would be a raver, I'd rethink the whole family thing, but then again, I wouldn't want a family just cuz I don't want to drive around a minivan. Anyway, where the hell are all the good looking boys anyway, I'm far from gay, actually, I'm str8, but still as i look around, the boys that are gay are either ugly, got issues, or are ultrafemme, the worst is when I encounter ones with all the above characteristics. (Yeah, I'm talking about you Leo = )). Here is my personal ad under "Alternative Lifestyles" Aggressive whitewashed asian poser looking for bold white bboy to go downtown with. Must be ghetto and have attitude, speak english a plus. Please fax resume, SAT score, and life portfolio to......... the undoubtedly straight poser bboibreks From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 08:40:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11900 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 08:40:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 11870 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 08:40:29 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 08:40:29 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA30749 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 01:40:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990506014449.007ecd00@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 01:44:49 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: Re: (NRR) cancerous ingredients found in your shower! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The sun causes cancer, so do power lines, tvs, computer screens, hairdryers, etc... We need to stop living in fear and start LIVING. Just my humble opinion. Love, Carly *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 11:40:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17088 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 11:40:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 17077 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 11:40:48 -0000 Received: from kzsu.stanford.edu (36.118.0.90) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 11:40:48 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kzsu.Stanford.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA15206 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 04:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905061140.EAA15206@kzsu.Stanford.EDU> X-Authentication-Warning: kzsu.Stanford.EDU: localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: A call for drums Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 04:40:46 -0700 From: Joe Brenner Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Possibly a silly question, but I was just wondering if there were any drumming circle types out there who might feel like playing on the radio this weekend... Once a year I organize a marathon of live improvised performances on the air at KZSU, the Stanford radio station, and I was just thinking that a late-night drumming circle would be an interesting addition, say on Friday night, around 1am-2am. Any takers? Anyway, here's the info: The Day of Noise Date: Saturday, May 8th, 199 Time: Midnight to midnight The station: KZSU, Stanford 90.1 FM Webcast: http://realaudio.stanford.edu Schedule: http://kzsu.stanford.edu/~doom/noise5.html From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 11:42:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18200 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 11:42:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 18189 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 11:42:26 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 11:42:26 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (ABD67765.ipt.aol.com [171.214.119.101]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA21785; Thu, 6 May 1999 04:42:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3731805F.A1315187@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 04:43:27 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: californiadiver@juno.com CC: unclenoa@netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: raver handbook..=0p References: <19990505.121005.-381517.1.californiadiver@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You can find an online copy of this on my web site. Sorry this sit has not been updated for at least two years. http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/1028/handbook.html I should update the site. I know. Yes I know it's cute, but lacking content. Now just go to that page and stop your whining. P.S. There are nude pictures of TeknoDiva on this page. It's Candy Porn... californiadiver@juno.com wrote: > > anybody have a copy? > > californiadiver@juno.com > > On Tue, 4 May 1999 22:16:28 -0700 (PDT) unclenoah > writes: > > > > > >there is a "Responsible Raving Handbook" that was in circulation in > >SoCal > >for a while... when John Abel turned up dead after Dune, his mother > >was > >waving it around and reading from it on television interviews. it's > >actually a very well-written little piece, but when you get angry > >mothers > >and an unfriendly media taking choice snippets from it out of context, > >it > >begins to look like a drug use guidebook instead of a book of useful > >information. > > > >On Wed, 5 May 1999 LordNyxx@aol.com wrote: > > > >> Unfortunately, to many, drugs and partying are synonmyous, and will > >be almost > >> impossible to seperate.... > >> > >> The best thing that can be done, is not necessarily tell people not > >to do the > >> drugs that they will reguardless....but teach them to do it > >responsible, give > >> them tips about how to be safe and respectful to themselves and > >others....to > >> not over do it, to know their limits and abide by them.... > >> > >> For a long time now, ive seriously considered making a series of > >little > >> cards, to hand out to people at parties, with different tips on how > >to keep > >> safe on the various drugs that float around our scene....I would be > >totally > >> down for making this idea a reality, but would appreciate some > >outside help > >> and support....if anyone is interested....please let me know.... > >> > >> Cause if you could save one little kiddie from having to take that > >trip to > >> the hospital, well then, i think the time and effort would be worth > >it. :) > >> > >> > >> ::huggles:: > >> gLoVeS > >> > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > >"Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic > >or > >death." - Casey Brackley > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------ > >GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now > >info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions > >714.558.7626 > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------ > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 11:47:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19921 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 11:47:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 19906 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 11:47:53 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 11:47:53 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (ABD67765.ipt.aol.com [171.214.119.101]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA24177; Thu, 6 May 1999 04:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <373181A3.26E43413@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 04:48:51 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: WizardCCCA@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Metropolis References: <64fa57b5.24623f51@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You don't get out much do you? See there is this thing called the SFR Calendar. You can find the information you are looking for there. Checking there first will prevent you from asking stupid questions. http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/sf/calendar/gencal.cgi =Paul*E*Wog WizardCCCA@aol.com wrote: > > Hey everyone.... > > Sorry if someone posted about this already, but I was wondering about the > lineup and who is throwing this party.... I heard about it and thought it > sounded pretty good, so any info you have would be wonderful!!!! And also... > who is planning on going to this? > > Much PLUR, > Liz From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 11:53:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21510 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 11:53:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 21501 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 11:53:19 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 11:53:19 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (ABD67765.ipt.aol.com [171.214.119.101]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA26613; Thu, 6 May 1999 04:53:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <373182EF.88C31C99@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 04:54:23 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tabitha Hanrion CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Ecstasy=Parkinson's? References: <19990506005638.17315.cpmta@fillmore.criticalpath.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Lies... all lies. Didn't the same research come from LSD and that was also never true... A friend of a friend has taken ecstacy more than nine times in 1997 and he is perfectly OK Now. Parkinsons can also be prevented by taking Gingko Biloba, DL-PA, and DMAE... Maybe it is that someone this individual was going to develop Parkinson's if he took e or not. =Paul*E*Wog P.S. I don't have Parkinson's... But i think i have turrets syndrome... Fuck off BiTCH!!! PiSS on me!!! Tit sucking slut bitch!! Aaaa fuck you! Tabitha Hanrion wrote: > > Ecstasy May Be Linked To Parkinson's Disease > > BOSTON (Reuters) - Repeated use of the hallucinogen ecstasy can lead to Parkinson's disease, three University of Michigan doctors have suggested in a letter to the New England Journal of Medicine. > > The claim is based on the case of a 29-year-old man who had taken ecstasy nine times in 1997 and once in May 1998, three months before he began developing symptoms. > > At first, he seemed clumsier than normal. Then, over a one-month period, he began to have trouble walking, and lost his ability to write and drive. > > Tests showed he had Parkinson's disease, a brain condition that typically appears in middle-aged and elderly people. It results in stiff, weak and trembling muscles, and an unbalanced > walk. > > ``Although we have no firm evidence of a causal relation between this patient's drug use and his parkinsonism, there are no other tenable explanations,'' said the doctors, led by Scott Mintzer. > > The patient's symptoms did not improve with drug treatment. > > The psychotropic drug popular with some U.S. psychiatrists and psychologists in the 1970s and '80s for relationship therapy, was never approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. A 1995 Johns Hopkins study linked ecstasy with brain damage in animals. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 12:08:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28686 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 12:08:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 28677 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 12:08:15 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 12:08:15 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (ABD67765.ipt.aol.com [171.214.119.101]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA04711; Thu, 6 May 1999 05:07:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3731865F.938B3DCE@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 05:09:03 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rachelle CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: regarding gay ravers!!! References: <8211-373102E8-3171@mailtod-141.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Kiss my ass Biatch... If you can't understand sarcasm you have emotional problems. Sorry if you were offended. Do you really think that I believe gay people eat mexicans. Your dumb. Now stop your tweaking... To your reference to "PLUR". PLUR can kiss my ass and PLUR is a piece of shit wanna be slogan. Let's try a new slogan. REALITY... life sucks. Life is full of desire and suffering... REALITY!!! We are not at a rave now. This is not a Temporary Autonomous Zone. Anything can happen. There are worse things I can say about gay people. Like how gay people like to roll around in poo. Gay people enjoy killing kittens and hanging their dead bodies on a picket fence. Gay people are the work of the devil. As for GAY RAVERS... well lemme just say... Rafie! Need i say anymore? I think that one is self explanatory. Rafie is gay and he is a hardcore raver. What's worse than a Gay person? A Raver. Ravers are evil and dirty and they smell. Ravers should go to hell. Ravers need to get a good kick in the ass. Ravers should be locked up for being whinny and cheesy e-tarded bitches that lay around on the floor and take up my dancing space. And Gay Ravers are just as bad. Besides... Gay people don't shower or change their dirty sox... EVER! So as to you getting upset because you are gay. I am sorry you are gay... It's not my fault you choose to define yourself under a label. What is a label? Anything that will categorize... Labels such as "Raver" or "Gay" are what is destroying the individuality of our human culture. If you label a group of people... then everyone in that group is the same. And sorry that is another false concept. Just like PLUR. There is nothing wrong with negativity. It's part of life. The sooner you embrace negativity the sooner will stop getting so upset when your life takes a negative turn... Wake up! Gay people suck... any gay guy will tell you that is true. Just as Rafie... he likes being Gay with Amanda... She is really a man in disguise... Go suck an egg Rachelle. =Paul*E*Wog P.S. I am only responding to this thread ONCE. The thread is DEAD as of now. Post something else. rachelle wrote: > > In regards to "goodvibes@geocites.com's" > e-mail to everyone at sfraves: > > I dont know if everyone has read his comment on "gayvers"...but please > do. > > First off, I am gay, and do not appreciate the remark he made to "gay" > people; I was literally disgusted by what he had to say about them... > a piece of what he said "...gay people are evil, they eat mexicans and > dogs..." now i personally have never met a gay person who eats mexicans > and dogs; let alone a straight person doing that either. Anyway, > EVERYONE has the right to rave; gay, straight, bisexual, transgender, > etc... > > Obviously, the "L" in PLUR is disappearing as well as the "R"...And the > peace has been gone and the unity is slowly dying too. This world is > falling apart day by day, and all some people can do is make it worse by > being homophobic, as well as racist. Don't worry about other people's > lives, worry about your own...It seems like you might need to by that > e-mail you sent to every raver at sfraves.com...remember raving is about > PLUR!!! Bring back the pieces we are losing. > > I've been raving for years and many who have agree with me...This > "scene" is dying or losing its faith, love, respect, responsiblity, > unity, peace and good people because of people that cant love all!!! > > Please everyone this is supposed to be why we all do it and not to > forget for the GREAT MUSIC, ATMOSPHERE & ____ (YOU FEEL IN THE BLANK > WITH WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE) > > P.S. raving has made me a better person in a lot of ways, and brought me > many great, memorable memories...PLUR > > thanks > love, > rachelle From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 12:11:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1137 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 12:11:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 1107 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 12:11:15 -0000 Received: from mail9.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 12:11:15 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (ABD67765.ipt.aol.com [171.214.119.101]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA03851; Thu, 6 May 1999 05:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37318723.2B31D7EF@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 05:12:19 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Juju0322@aol.com CC: pEEEkagirl@webtv.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: What comes first?: regarding gay ravers!!! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The whole world is bisexual. Once just need to make a choice about what they want. I will not accept answers such as "I was born gay". That is bullshit. You were born human and part of being human means choosing. =Paul*E*Wog Juju0322@aol.com wrote: > > now, i have noticed that a lot of ravers aren't straight...not "gay", but > anywhere from gay, to the many different levels of being bi-, and i was > thinking...are we ravers because we are bi or are we bi because we are > ravers...or is it the drugs.... > i personally knew that i wasn't straight before i got into the rave scene or > did drugs of anykind...but...how come so many ravers are not straight...or at > least it seems to me that many aren't...mabey its just the folks that i > happen to run into... > -Stephanie Marie- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 12:17:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4180 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 12:17:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 4153 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 12:17:52 -0000 Received: from mail9.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 12:17:52 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (ABD67765.ipt.aol.com [171.214.119.101]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA08195; Thu, 6 May 1999 05:17:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <373188B0.5C5A1847@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 05:18:56 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BBoiBreks@aol.com CC: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu, Aryck46@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: What comes first?: regarding gay ravers!!! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Sorry... that is more bullshit to me. No one is born a raver. Raving is a human characteristic that everyone is capable of doing. Dancing is the first thing that a baby will learn before walking or speaking. All humans respond to music. That is what being human is all about. Feeling the music and dancing. Before religion... there was dancing and everyone danced to the beat of the sun and the earth and stars... Then came religion and the world got fucked up. There was never a god. It was just the aliens... =Paul*E*Wog BBoiBreks@aol.com wrote: > > Well, maybe there's a genetic disposition to becoming a raver. Maybe ravers > are born and not created. I know if I knew that my child would be a raver, > I'd rethink the whole family thing, but then again, I wouldn't want a family > just cuz I don't want to drive around a minivan. Anyway, where the hell are > all the good looking boys anyway, I'm far from gay, actually, I'm str8, but > still as i look around, the boys that are gay are either ugly, got issues, or > are ultrafemme, the worst is when I encounter ones with all the above > characteristics. (Yeah, I'm talking about you Leo = )). > > Here is my personal ad under "Alternative Lifestyles" > > Aggressive whitewashed asian poser looking for bold white bboy to go downtown > with. Must be ghetto and have attitude, speak english a plus. Please fax > resume, SAT score, and life portfolio to......... > > the undoubtedly straight poser > bboibreks From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 12:57:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18655 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 12:57:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 18646 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 12:57:39 -0000 Received: from web904.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.79) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 12:57:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19990506125649.9107.rocketmail@web904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.233.16.87] by web904.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 06 May 1999 05:56:49 PDT Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 05:56:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Johnathan Flight Subject: If you care about raves...(intro) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Sfraves - 3 years ago i unsubscribed from this list... I finally signed off because out of like 100 messages, perhaps 30 would be talking about drugs, another 60 or so would be squabaling and bickering, there would be maybe a few BSP's, and then perhaps 3 or 4 would be posts saying something interesting or somthing that they had at least thought about. I've only been resubscribed for a few days, and i've scanned the recent posts... i can't say that seems like a whole lot has changed. hm. well i came here to post to you all a page the i wrote in response to another post on a different list. Maybe you won't take the time to read it. maybe you will. I it did take a lot of time and thought. The main point i make will not be clear at first. But i guarantee that it's an important one, and a POSITIVE one. I can't remember ever putting so much time and thought into something that I've written. I am aware that not everyone will agree with what I say. I hope no one takes offence, for absolutely none is intended. This is just how i feel. I will be very happy to discuss anything, but please just don't start flaming me. kewl. --john flight From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 13:10:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24059 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 13:10:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 23800 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 13:10:02 -0000 Received: from web904.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.79) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 13:10:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19990506130912.12366.rocketmail@web904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.233.16.87] by web904.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 06 May 1999 06:09:12 PDT Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Johnathan Flight Subject: If you care about raves... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I appologize if any of you are receiving this for the second time. What does raving mean to you... It's kind of funny... I've been thinking a lot about ravers the last day or two... Ravers genearlly all start out their raving careers with the same mindset: amazed, enthralled, excited... mystified... the spark of discovering something incredible... The dreams of becoming a part of it. Then it becomes a part of life. A way of life. And finally, they either somehow become part of scene (i.e. dj, promoter, clothing designer, drug dealer, etc.) or they get burned out and quit. I'd say that at LEAST 75%, probably more, burn out and quit anywhere from 6 months to 2 years from their first party. I've also observed that those who do become part of the scene in one form or another eventually go down one of two paths. (generally speaking). For the first path, there are those who, by either conscious decision or by circumstantial opportunity, end up making raving their career. Of those who do not burt out, this is the vast majority. They find a means of supporting themselves, one way or another. It really is not terribly difficult. Consider promoters: It's pretty damn tempting, and downright powerful to be able to throw a party w/ 1000 people at 10 bucks a head (and those are VERY conservative numbers nowadays. Do the math, folks. I mean, they're not just paying thier rent with the money that was earned from the last party they threw. This is big business, and there is big money being made. Now there are also lots of profit oriented parties on a smaller scale, and and many of these promoters put alot of effort into creating fantastic environments. But it's still basically the same kind of event: Try to get as many people that the venue can hold to come & pay as much as they are willing to. The kids are attracted by the fancy fliers or flashy linups. No matter what party it is though the promoters know that what their income and costs will be, and they have this in common: It's a business. But throwing parties is just one way to live off the rave scene. Some are spinning out every weekend, sometimes 2 or three times a week, and getting paid quite well for it. Many dream of opening a record store or a clothing store. And of course quite a few are selling pills. It's good quick money and it's fuckin easy And there are tons of other creative ways to go home from parties with more cash in your pocket than was there when you came... So now they are part of the rave scene. I know a LOT of people like this, and they are NOT evil people at all. But most of them aren't too thrilled about parties any more either.... Take a second to ask yourself, "Why do I rave?" Probably most of you would answer something like, because i like the music... because i love the atmosphere.... because i love the open heartedness... because i love the feeling of unity.... i love how everyone is so nice and sharing and beautiful. Okay, fine. Now really think about this: Try to imagine it if rather than going to a party to share with beautiful amazing people your feelings of unity, love and peace, you go and see a whole bunch of kids who you don't know, most of whom are on a too many drugs some of which probobly originated from either your pocket or that of someone you know quite well. (and when i mean kids i mean like people who are not graduating from high school any time soon) How does that feel? Imagine that you are spinning at this party, not to share your deepest, most passionate, soul touching, spirit raising music with the people you love with all your heart, but instead you are spinning because they are paying you 200 bucks to play at a party you would not be at otherwise. Imagine, if you were constantly working or DJing parties every weekend that were chalk full of people who are grossly irresponsible and dangerous with drugs, and who don't understand the scene the way you do, what it means to you, what it is capable of being, and who don't give a shit about any of that peace & love & unity that you once believed in... don't you think that eventually going to parties would become sort of like a chore? Why, again, do we go to these things? And if you think that you can keep up with the ever expanding, ever exploding scene, and keep the message clear and the vibe pure, I'm afraid that I have got news for you... The numbers are working against you. This is how the great rave scene equation works. This is not just my imagination, this is a FACT. You can ask anyone who's been partying for 2 years or more, and i'm sure that they will agree with this: The number of people who go to their first party every weekend is on the increase, as it has been for a long fucking time. And the number of people who move on with their lives and stop going to parties is also on the increase. The "general pool of who is going to raves" while although it is increasing in size, For the most part it stays constant in age and experience. There's always going to be more and more and more new heads and you can never know them all because they are always changing. It's just too big. And it's the same routine every weekend, only every party seems to be slightly more diluted, slightly less amazing, slightly less of something special... This is what is happening to the rave scene, as i bet that it has happened to every other underground culture in history. It is inevitable: commercialization is leading to the dilution of the substance of what raves are. here's a little analogy for u: The rave scene is a glass of fine scotch whiskey. Okay, just pretend you like scotch... bear w/ me. =) So you constantly add drops of water to the glass, and simultaneously removing drops with an dropper (you know, one of those things that looks like a tiny tiny mini turkey baster... you know what i'm talking about). After long enough, you are left with a glass of slightly funny tasting water. Well, maybe it's not a perfect analogy... but you get the picture... but back to all seriousness and all.. here comes the point to all this There is, however, another way. the other path... The second path, the path seems by far least traveled, and offers something completely different. There are people who have been going to, spinning at, and throwing parties for years. Not because they're getting paid. More often than not, they end up loosing money. These parties often end up being at the beach, or in a warehouse, or at someone's house, or even in someone's garage & machine shop next to the freeway. ;) I'm talking about the untarnished pure celebration of music, dance, friendship and community that is impossible to mass produce or market. You can't buy this kind of experience... but it's here for those who want it and are ready for it. Don't you see? Raves aren't about glitter and candy and fancy props and neat venues and impressive djs or any of that other bullshit. All that crap is shallow meaningless fluff - totally fucking worthless... kinda like angel food cake... REAL parties are about the PEOPLE If your raving experience isn't about your friends, and making new ones, then what the hell's the point? If you are not throwing your party because you have a blast doing it with the people that you love, then why put in all the time & effort to throw a party? A lot of fucking work and planning and time and risk go into planning parties, as all of you know, and it's not always fun. But I've found that the experience of working together to create something collectively ultimately brings the group closer together. I love raves, and I will continue to give time, energy, love, and my entire soul to that which given me so much. But I do what i do because I love this community, and I love my friends. I do not ever want to profit as a result of being a contributing member to this community. I would (personally) never accept money spin records. Now, I'm NOT saying that it is evil to get paid to spin... i am very aware that records cost a lot of money. Djing by no stretch of anyone's imagination a cheep hobby! This is just a personal choice that helps keep things clear in my head about my motivations and priorities. I consider it a sacred honor to share the music that i cherish so deeply with those who i love. This just isn't something that want to do for money. I guess I finally started to ask myself questions like "What can i do to contribute to the next party?" "These people have the right idea... How can I help them? "What can I do to make this party one step better?" "What can I bring to the community to share from myself?" I started to view the scene in a totally fresh perpective. In a world so full of greed, competition, shallow accumulation of property, and perpetual constant self gratification, all the way from the cars we drive on down to our personal hygiene products, isn't it *such* a refreshing alternative to be a part of something as sacred and spiritual as the underground rave community? We have the all precursors of a REAL revolution on our hands.... This is just the beginning. Although I never use this expression, I feel like it is appropriate here and now... To all of you whom I love so much: Peace, Love, Unity and Respect. --Adam aka John Flight --Adam aka John Flight Thank you for being so patient with me through all this. I welcome feedback. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 15:21:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29355 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 15:21:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 29340 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 15:21:56 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 15:21:56 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-199.dsp.com [204.118.76.199]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA19944; Thu, 6 May 1999 08:21:52 -0700 Message-Id: <199905061521.IAA19944@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 08:21:29 -0700 To: Space201@aol.com, Anachra@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: (NRR) cancerous ingredients found in your shower! In-Reply-To: <88303bc0.24628ae7@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Actually, in the Netherlands you can get Palmolive everything: shampoo, toothpaste, face stuff. It's kinda creepy. Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 15:24:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2426 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 15:24:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 2418 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 15:24:46 -0000 Received: from fletch.fix.net (telkionish@206.190.71.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 15:24:46 -0000 Received: from localhost (telkionish@localhost) by fletch.fix.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA26734 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 08:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 08:25:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Adair To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Ecstasy=Parkinson's? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Ecstasy May Be Linked To Parkinson's Disease Really??? Now lets look for some proof.... >BOSTON (Reuters) - Repeated use of the hallucinogen ecstasy can lead to >Parkinson's disease, three University of Michigan doctors have suggested >in a letter to the New England Journal of Medicine. Really?? Three doctors eh??? Then obviously they came to this conclusion using some kind of scientific method... >The claim is based on the case of a 29-year-old man who had taken ecstasy >nine times in 1997 and once in May 1998, three months before he began >developing symptoms. >At first, he seemed clumsier than normal. Then, over a one-month period, >he began to have trouble walking, and lost his ability to write and >drive. >Tests showed he had Parkinson's disease, a brain condition that typically >appears in middle-aged and elderly people. It results in stiff, weak and >trembling muscles, and an unbalanced >walk. Really??? Typically huh??? So since this guy took E a few times, and happened to develop parkinsons eh??? I wonder how much E Michael J Fox took before he started to develop symptoms??? >``Although we have no firm evidence of a causal relation between this >patient's drug use and his parkinsonism, there are no other tenable >explanations,'' said the doctors, led by Scott Mintzer. Then they admit that this is just propoganda... Because he took a few hits of E, it HAS to be responsible for his condition... It couldnt have been some other reason, like being unknowingly exposed to something else that might have caused it, or just plain bad luck... Their claim holds no more validity that if someone were to say, "Well, he ate a roast beef sandwitch for lunch every day, and the homoromone injected beef caused the parkinsons" It is as bad as saying that listening to Marilyn Manson and wearing a trenchcoat will make you into a violent, uncontrollable monster... I could understand a politician trying to push this bullshit, but three doctors??? They should know better.. GregerE From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 15:28:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5392 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 15:28:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 5149 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 15:28:12 -0000 Received: from fletch.fix.net (telkionish@206.190.71.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 15:28:12 -0000 Received: from localhost (telkionish@localhost) by fletch.fix.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA27773 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 08:28:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 08:28:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Adair To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: What comes first?: regarding gay ravers!!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Oh, come on kids... You know it is all about the gummy savers.. Accept no subsitutes GregerE >You know. . . I have never EVER gotten any damn juju bees from any damn ice >cream truck dude that weren't rock f'in hard. . . > tell me. . . > > Am I alone on this one ??? >Aryck Jujubees are ALWAYS rock hard... that's why I'm partial to Dots... soft and chewy every time. Yummy. Love, Carly *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 15:32:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8140 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 15:32:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 8114 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 15:32:49 -0000 Received: from fletch.fix.net (telkionish@206.190.71.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 15:32:49 -0000 Received: from localhost (telkionish@localhost) by fletch.fix.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA28890 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 08:33:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 08:33:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Adair To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: (NRR) cancerous ingredients found in your shower! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Oh yeah... no better way to get you shower floor sparkling white again.. Just buy a bottle of really cheap shampoo and smear it all over floor, and let it sit overnight... In the morning, have fun with mad bubbles and when you are done, your floor is sparkling!!! GregerE >> >>Check the ingredients listed on your shampoo bottle, and see if they have a >>substance by the name of Sodium Laureth Sulfate, or simply SLS. >> >>This substance is found in most shampoos, and the manufacturers use it >>because it produces a lot of foam and it is cheap. BUT the fact is that SLS >>is used to scrub garage floors, and it is very strong. >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 15:59:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22395 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 15:59:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 22351 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 15:59:02 -0000 Received: from pohl.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 15:59:02 -0000 Received: from godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.45]) by pohl.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id LAA05169; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:49:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id LAA09837; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:49:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 11:49:41 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu To: Laalkuchaa@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i'm not usually a seriuos person but this is a pretty stupid issue to joke about IMO. much love, amber On Wed, 5 May 1999 Laalkuchaa@aol.com wrote: > > 200 rounds of ammunition: $70 > > 2 ski masks: $24 > > 2 black trenchcoats: $260 > > Seeing the expression on your classmates' faces right before you blow > their heads off -- priceless. > > There are some things money can't buy, for everything else there's > MasterCard. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 16:01:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23884 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 16:01:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 23875 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 16:01:54 -0000 Received: from pohl.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 16:01:54 -0000 Received: from godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.45]) by pohl.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id LAA05485; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:53:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id LAA10444; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:53:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 11:53:57 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu To: Tabitha Hanrion cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Ecstasy=Parkinson's? In-Reply-To: <19990506005638.17315.cpmta@fillmore.criticalpath.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hmm, i'm kind of skeptical as to whether E could cause parkinson's disease (i wonder if there is more evidence on this) but i wouldn't be surprised if taking drugs hindered the treatment process. thanx tabitha for sending this :) much love, amber On 5 May 1999, Tabitha Hanrion wrote: > > Ecstasy May Be Linked To Parkinson's Disease > > BOSTON (Reuters) - Repeated use of the hallucinogen ecstasy can lead to Parkinson's disease, three University of Michigan doctors have suggested in a letter to the New England Journal of Medicine. > > The claim is based on the case of a 29-year-old man who had taken ecstasy nine times in 1997 and once in May 1998, three months before he began developing symptoms. > > At first, he seemed clumsier than normal. Then, over a one-month period, he began to have trouble walking, and lost his ability to write and drive. > > Tests showed he had Parkinson's disease, a brain condition that typically appears in middle-aged and elderly people. It results in stiff, weak and trembling muscles, and an unbalanced > walk. > > ``Although we have no firm evidence of a causal relation between this patient's drug use and his parkinsonism, there are no other tenable explanations,'' said the doctors, led by Scott Mintzer. > > The patient's symptoms did not improve with drug treatment. > > The psychotropic drug popular with some U.S. psychiatrists and psychologists in the 1970s and '80s for relationship therapy, was never approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. A 1995 Johns Hopkins study linked ecstasy with brain damage in animals. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 16:13:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1275 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 16:13:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 1255 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 16:12:59 -0000 Received: from jeter.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 16:12:59 -0000 Received: from godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.45]) by jeter.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id MAA05544; Thu, 6 May 1999 12:03:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA11711; Thu, 6 May 1999 12:03:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 12:03:25 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu To: Juju0322@aol.com cc: pEEEkagirl@webtv.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: What comes first?: regarding gay ravers!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk probably why you see so many gay/bi ravers is because raving is an alternative lifestyle that actually does seem to acept poeple of any sexuality, so gay/bi poeple feel comfortable in the environment. and i don't think drugs cause people to become gay or bi, it's something that is inside you an may be evoked by some drugs. luckily those kinds of feelings are evoked in a healthy accepting enviroment where kids stop supressing thier true feelings. IMHO :) much hlove, amber On Wed, 5 May 1999 Juju0322@aol.com wrote: > > now, i have noticed that a lot of ravers aren't straight...not "gay", but > anywhere from gay, to the many different levels of being bi-, and i was > thinking...are we ravers because we are bi or are we bi because we are > ravers...or is it the drugs.... > i personally knew that i wasn't straight before i got into the rave scene or > did drugs of anykind...but...how come so many ravers are not straight...or at > least it seems to me that many aren't...mabey its just the folks that i > happen to run into... > -Stephanie Marie- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 16:22:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4188 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 16:22:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 4109 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 16:22:34 -0000 Received: from zahn.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 16:22:34 -0000 Received: from godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.45]) by zahn.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id MAA16356; Thu, 6 May 1999 12:10:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA12541; Thu, 6 May 1999 12:10:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 12:10:26 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu To: Paul*E*Wog cc: Juju0322@aol.com, pEEEkagirl@webtv.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: What comes first?: regarding gay ravers!!! In-Reply-To: <37318723.2B31D7EF@geocities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well said! >>The whole world is bisexual. Once just need to make a choice about what they want. I will not accept answers such as "I was born gay". That is bullshit. You were born human and part of being human means choosing. =Paul*E*Wog --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 16:28:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9572 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 16:28:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 9559 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 16:28:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 16:28:08 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 253 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 09:26:17 -0700 Message-ID: <3731C310.EACAB76B@hrg.com> Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 09:28:00 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFraves peeps Subject: NRR: I NEED A JOB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey peeps...Im looking for a new job...if anyone knows of anything Id appreciate a lead. Im a technical recruiter with 4 yrs of high tech experience. Im well versed in multimedia, client/server software, and telecom technologies, and have worked with companies such as Sega, Siebel, Ascend, Harris DTS, Sybase, Centura, Inktomi, Unwired Planet and many others, recruiting the full gamut from engineering through marketing and sales. Im looking for a recruiting postion with a company around San Francisco. Im especially interested in working with multimedia companies. If anyone knows of anything Id sure appreciate it... thanks John R From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 16:48:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19613 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 16:48:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 19568 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 16:48:13 -0000 Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (209.185.123.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 16:48:13 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by angelfire.com; Thu May 6 09:47:39 1999 To: "MacBunny" Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 09:47:39 -0700 From: "Electric Joy Boy" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org X-Sent-Mail: on Reply-To: X-Expiredinmiddle: true X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: Ecstasy=Parkinson's? X-Sender-Ip: 206.66.135.218 Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am not in college anymore and therefore don't have easy access to psychlit or medline databases. :( If any of you gruuvy student types have a chance you might want to look up key words "MDMA and parkinsons" in your local psychology or medical databases. If I remeber my neuropharm well enough, E and similar sertonin agonists DO KILL BRAIN CELLS. The studies that I read concerened degradation in the substantia nigra in rats. There is a probablity that sufficient doses or frequent administration [of this class of drug, phenylethylamines and the like] can lead to neuron death in this area which leads to Parkinsons. A similar thing, I think, happened w/ MPTP but much more quickly. I personally don't feel that there have been enough human subject studies to inform a safe pattern of consupmtion. I used to tell people to not take more than 350 mg in a week or to not take more than 125mg (normal dose 90-125mg)every three weeks over long term. These numbers are somewhat arbitrary based on the lack of research, but still try to use what ressearch has been done. Better safe than sorry. Ben -- On Thu, 6 May 1999 11:53:57 MacBunny wrote: >hmm, i'm kind of skeptical as to whether E could cause parkinson's >disease (i wonder if there is more evidence on this) but i wouldn't be >surprised if taking drugs hindered the treatment process. > >thanx tabitha for sending this :) > >much love, >amber > > >On 5 May 1999, Tabitha Hanrion wrote: >> >> Ecstasy May Be Linked To Parkinson's Disease >> >> BOSTON (Reuters) - Repeated use of the hallucinogen ecstasy can lead to Parkinson's disease, three University of Michigan doctors have suggested in a letter to the New England Journal of Medicine. >> >> The claim is based on the case of a 29-year-old man who had taken ecstasy nine times in 1997 and once in May 1998, three months before he began developing symptoms. >> >> At first, he seemed clumsier than normal. Then, over a one-month period, he began to have trouble walking, and lost his ability to write and drive. >> >> Tests showed he had Parkinson's disease, a brain condition that typically appears in middle-aged and elderly people. It results in stiff, weak and trembling muscles, and an unbalanced >> walk. >> >> ``Although we have no firm evidence of a causal relation between this patient's drug use and his parkinsonism, there are no other tenable explanations,'' said the doctors, led by Scott Mintzer. >> >> The patient's symptoms did not improve with drug treatment. >> >> The psychotropic drug popular with some U.S. psychiatrists and psychologists in the 1970s and '80s for relationship therapy, was never approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. A 1995 Johns Hopkins study linked ecstasy with brain damage in animals. >> >> >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, >is the characteristic of one who knows." > >amber perry-mcquown > >akp2@acpub.duke.edu >amber@earthling.net >amber@marin.cc.ca.us > >http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 17:02:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29951 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 17:02:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 29806 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 17:02:45 -0000 Received: from f190.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.79) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 17:02:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 78079 invoked by uid 0); 6 May 1999 17:02:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19990506170241.78078.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 06 May 1999 10:02:41 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: (NRR) Paging Terry Estioko Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 10:02:41 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey Terry could you email me back once you get this I have a question I need to ask of you. Thanks, Macadio From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 17:04:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1818 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 17:04:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 1808 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 17:04:45 -0000 Received: from linex1.linex.com (HELO relay.linex.net) (199.4.98.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 17:04:45 -0000 Received: from linex4.linex.com (linex4.linex.com [199.4.98.14]) by relay.linex.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA17754; Thu, 6 May 1999 10:04:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linex.linex.com by linex4.linex.com (NX5.67c/NX3.0S) id AA05826; Thu, 6 May 99 10:04:41 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 10:04:40 -0700 (PDT) From: aminita Reply-To: aminita To: The Red Stickman Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: !!!sunshine daydream!!! In-Reply-To: <19990503080553.2873.rocketmail@web219.mail.yahoo.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk absoulutley not! best party i have EVER been to. no joke!!!! only thing i wish was that people would of been more respectful of the space in terms of the drug abuse going on. 3 announcements is too much...... aminita On Mon, 3 May 1999, The Red Stickman wrote: > > Could it have been any more perfect? > > (no.) > > =) > > love, > michael > o)-< > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 17:09:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4787 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 17:09:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 4752 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 17:09:34 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 17:09:34 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-114.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.114]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA17361 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 10:09:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990506154340.006b1b50@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 10:43:40 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: NRR Muni Muni Muni.... Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well see as how the list has gotten so, ya know. I figure I might as well entertain with my muni stories. For some reason when I am on the muni stuff happens. Like one time I was on the 38 Geary at like 10:30 pm tired as a dog from work and wanting to get home o' so quickly, and what happens? At this stop 30-40 old ppl get on the bus. Now nothing against old ppl, but most of the time when old people get on the bus they take HELLA long. Not only this but all these old people were french tourist and only one of them could speack english good enough. It was like one of those twix commercials, cuz thats how long it took them to communicate and get on the bus..a total of 15 minutes at least. Ok second story, I was on the 28 bus trying to go to school and as we all know homelessness is just a comon thing ya know. So I was on the bus and this homeless woman is onther on the back, normal so far. I look at her then I look again and I see that this woman like has her pants pulled down and her bush just showing for everyone too see. After seeing that I decide to move away n such. But after awhile she started to tell everyone to shut the windows please, and everyone complies--it being muni and everyone wanting to be nice. But after awhile there is this stench. It smelled like shit and everyone thought "o it must just be her." But then I looked back again and she wasn't on the bus anymore, but every minute that passed the smell of shit increased! so finally the bus drivers pulls off and walks tot he back and lo and behold SHE LEFT A LITTLE BROWN BABY BOY ON THE BUS! I mean the woman actually took a dump on the bus. UnFookinbelievable. Third story, I was trying to get to the Haight from church and I didn't feel like waiting for the 22. So what I do is take a new route, and what happens? The bus driver is new and gets us lost in San Francisco what it comes down to is the bus driver going down a dead end road and me having to get out and help her do a 3 point turn because the bus driver is too freaking nervous n shit. It almost came to the point where I was about to drive the bus for her. I swear the driver was like that grl in airplane ' who kept saying we are all gonna die we are all gonna die!" If I thought it would help it would've smack her. Coincedently this happen to me again in on the 29 sunset bus. We ended up going to the mall on sloat and then a drive through the Golden Gate Park. I didn't mind this so much cuz I knew where we were at and we passed a lot of stops that we would've had to stop at, so it just made my bus ride that much faster. Of course i started helping the driver when he was close to my stop. :) Oh last but not least. Muni is like holy land. Those Morman missionaries should know that. I once got onthe 38 from downtown to my home which is like on the otherside of SF directly opposite of Downtown. And not 2 missionaries but 4, FOUR freaking missionaries got on and abused us poor ppl who just wanted to get home. And there was a chinese one, a hispanic one, a white one, and a red haired one. It's like they had all bases covered. Ok I am verklempt, talk among yourselves. Nuku From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 17:26:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16896 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 17:26:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 16886 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 17:26:33 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 17:26:33 -0000 Received: from WizardCCCA@aol.com (259) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vUXMa02446 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:24:31 -0400 (EDT) From: WizardCCCA@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 13:24:31 EDT Subject: Re: Metropolis To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Gee... SOOO sorry for asking STUPID questions... if you had read some of the former posts, I am NEW to the LIST! Sheesh... I feel the love. But thanks to some NICE people on the list, they sent me the line up and where it is and all the info I needed that actually wasn't on the CALENDAR that I happened to check out a few weeks ago. Thank you SO much for your KINDNESS, Liz In a message dated 5/6/99 5:47:53 AM, goodvibe@geocities.com writes: << You don't get out much do you? See there is this thing called the SFR Calendar. You can find the information you are looking for there. Checking there first will prevent you from asking stupid questions. http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/sf/calendar/gencal.cgi =Paul*E*Wog >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 17:33:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21765 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 17:33:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 21752 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 17:33:19 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 17:33:19 -0000 Received: from user (access-50-218.ixpres.com [209.75.50.218]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA53751 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 10:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990506102845.006c3290@mail.ixpres.com> X-Sender: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 10:28:45 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: Re: If you care about raves... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Before I respond to any thread I just wanna say hi and introduce myself to everyone. I'm Madhvi, a girl, 24, college-grad, used to live in the bay area, have been raving since 91 (started in San Diego and worked my way up the coast) back when techno really was just techno :-). I also want to say that lately i've been reading some funny-ass shit on here and everyone should definitely keep a sense of humour. That being said I would like to respond to Jon Flight's post. Now, those of us who've been doing this for a long time have watched the ups & downs of the scenes. In 93 the promoting & commercializm got sooo bad that the rave scene went into a serious downcycle. Then came new hope and it started going up, but then plateaued again for a while. In my opinion, right now an energy of unimagined proportions is hitting the planet, and raves/ravers are just some of the things/people being positively affected by it. Now, it hurts me to the core when you write that "And the >number of people who move on with their lives and stop going to parties >is also on the increase. " Moving on w/ their lives? What does that mean? That the rave was just some adolescent trend that played itself out and ceased to have meaning for these people who dropped out? Moving on? Honey, I couldn't move on even if i wanted to b/c this music, this way of life, this feeling has gotten into my soul. Rather, it has unlocked my soul and w/out I would be a lesser thing. I certainly have lost touch w/ people over the years and seen fewer old faces, but I have also met new ones. It sounds kind of hopeless when you say that the new kids are on the rise at every new rave. Well hey, if we are on the cusp of a revolution and new age (which i believe as well) then why shouldn;t it be the more the merrier? And you're right, commercialism is RAMPANT and there are a lot of wack promoters out there as well as wack dj's & wack ravers who are into it for the image/drugs/status. It's silly as you and i know b/c people should do things from their heart. I also have cried over this commericialization and have wished fervently that all things good could remain underground...but they can't. So it's our job (the one's who can't live w/out this in their lives and to whom this has inspired in more ways than can be listed) to keep our energy flowing and pass it onto others so they too can know the true meaning. It's hard for 16 year olds at this point to remember the true warehouse rave, where we broke into abandoned buildings and set up sound systems just to be together and feel the music. It's not their fault, by the time they came into it, the u/g was a thing of the past, replaced by shiny, fancy parteez. But hey, everything evolves and there are enough people who become addicted the music and understand it's message despite all else. As to dj's who spin w/out a soul...well shit. I love more than anything to watch a dj spin his set and fuckin groove out to it (watch jon e thin or donald glaude sometime), but some just won't. Maybe they are doing it just for the money, and yeah that sux, but i try to take away from it what i can rather than focus on that aspect b/c i know that at some point that dj had/is/will feel his/her vibe again--that's why s/he started doing it in the first place right? It's not easy by any means, as you seem to imply, making a life out of the scene. It's not easy to open a record store or clothing store or be a dj or yes, even a promoter. Of course, I believe that wack-ass parties that have 50 dj line-ups and that rent out the oakland coliseum or orange showgrounds or the san diego convention center are money-makers and i try to stay away. But shit, sometimes they're not *JUST* money-makers and not everything can be a little party. I have so much more to say upon this subject and I'm sorry for already writing a chapter out of the Great American Novel here. I guess what i'm trying to say is that raving has led me down a path of life I might not have traversed w/out it. I'm going to law school in the fall, but that doesn't mean that I'll have moved on with my life!! I'm very serious about using my education to give back to the movement that has changed and defined my life. In fact, the ways it has opened my mind and made me more aware of things like individual rights and personal autonomy will also be on my hit list of things to impact. Just b/c I haven't gone or am not going down one of the 2 roads you've delineated doesn't mean that i am moving on w/ my life or dropping out. How do you drop out of something that has grown inside and become a part of you? Adam, we are on the edge of a revolution, and if people like you and people like me are so concerned about it, it can only succeed. I still remain enthralled, excited, amazed, mystified and am convinced that i have discovered something incredible. IT'S ABOUT THE MUSIC and the feeling that music produces in all of us. That's why ravers come together, b/c they all feel that same joy. I hope & know that many of you feel the same way. Please, stay positive. You have my deepest respect and love. love and harmony, madhvi At 06:09 AM 5/6/99 -0700, you wrote: >I appologize if any of you are receiving this for the second time. > > > >What does raving mean to you... > >It's kind of funny... I've been thinking a lot about ravers the last >day or two... Ravers genearlly all start out their raving careers with >the same mindset: amazed, enthralled, excited... mystified... the spark >of discovering something incredible... The dreams of becoming a part >of it. > >Then it becomes a part of life. A way of life. And finally, they >either somehow become part of scene (i.e. dj, promoter, clothing >designer, drug dealer, etc.) or they get burned out and quit. I'd say >that at LEAST 75%, probably more, burn out and quit anywhere from 6 >months to 2 years from their first party. > >I've also observed that those who do become part of the scene in one >form or another eventually go down one of >two paths. (generally speaking). > > >For the first path, there are those who, by either conscious decision >or by circumstantial opportunity, end up making raving their career. >Of those who do not burt out, this is the vast majority. They find a >means of supporting themselves, one way or another. It really is not >terribly difficult. Consider promoters: It's pretty damn tempting, >and downright powerful to be able to throw a party w/ 1000 people at 10 >bucks a head (and those are VERY conservative numbers nowadays. Do the >math, folks. I mean, they're not just paying thier rent with the money >that was earned from the last party they threw. This is big business, >and there is big money being made. Now there are also lots of profit >oriented parties on a smaller scale, and and many of these promoters >put alot of effort into creating fantastic environments. But it's >still basically the same kind of event: Try to get as many >people that the venue can hold to come & pay as much as they are >willing to. The kids are attracted by the fancy fliers or flashy >linups. No matter what party it is though the promoters know that what >their income and costs will be, and they have this in common: It's a >business. But throwing parties is just one way to live off the rave >scene. > >Some are spinning out every weekend, sometimes 2 or three times a week, >and getting paid quite well for it. Many dream of opening a record >store or a clothing store. And of course quite a few are selling >pills. It's good quick money and it's fuckin easy And there are tons >of other creative ways to go home from parties with more cash in your >pocket than was there when you came... > >So now they are part of the rave scene. I know a LOT of people like >this, and they are NOT evil people at all. But most of them aren't too >thrilled about parties any more either.... > >Take a second to ask yourself, "Why do I rave?" > >Probably most of you would answer something like, because i like the >music... because i love the atmosphere.... because i love the open >heartedness... because i love the feeling of unity.... i love how >everyone is so nice and sharing and beautiful. Okay, fine. > > >Now really think about this: > >Try to imagine it if rather than going to a party to share with >beautiful amazing people your feelings of unity, love and peace, you go >and see a whole bunch of kids who you don't know, most of whom are on a >too many drugs some of which probobly originated from either your >pocket or that of someone you know quite well. (and when i mean kids i >mean like people who are not graduating from high school any time soon) >How does that feel? > >Imagine that you are spinning at this party, not to share your deepest, >most passionate, soul touching, spirit raising music with the people >you love with all your heart, but instead you are spinning because they >are paying you 200 bucks to play at a party you would not be at >otherwise. > >Imagine, if you were constantly working or DJing parties every weekend >that were chalk full of people who are grossly irresponsible and >dangerous with drugs, and who don't understand the scene the way you >do, what it means to you, what it is capable of being, and who don't >give a shit about any of that peace & love & unity that you once >believed in... > >don't you think that eventually going to parties would become sort of >like a chore? > >Why, again, do we go to these things? > >And if you think that you can keep up with the ever expanding, ever >exploding scene, and keep the message clear and the vibe pure, I'm >afraid that I have got news for you... The numbers are working against >you. This is how the great rave scene equation works. This is not >just my imagination, this is a FACT. You can ask anyone who's been >partying for 2 years or more, and i'm sure that they will agree with >this: The number of people who go to their first party every weekend >is on the increase, as it has been for a long fucking time. The "general pool of who is going to raves" >while although it is increasing in size, For the most part it stays >constant in age and experience. There's always going to be more and >more and more new heads and you can never know them all because they >are always changing. It's just too big. And it's the same routine >every weekend, only every party seems to be slightly more >diluted, slightly less amazing, slightly less of something special... > >This is what is happening to the rave scene, as i bet that it has >happened to every other underground culture in history. > >It is inevitable: commercialization is leading to the dilution of the >substance of what raves are. > >here's a little analogy for u: The rave scene is a glass of fine >scotch whiskey. Okay, just pretend you like scotch... bear w/ me. =) >So you constantly add drops of water to the glass, and simultaneously >removing drops with an dropper (you know, one of those things that >looks like a tiny tiny mini turkey baster... you know what i'm talking >about). After long enough, you are left with a glass of slightly funny >tasting water. Well, maybe it's not a perfect analogy... but you get >the picture... but back to all seriousness and all.. here comes the >point to all this > > > >There is, however, another way. > > >the other path... > > > >The second path, the path seems by far least traveled, and offers >something completely different. There are people who have been going >to, spinning at, and throwing parties for years. Not because they're >getting paid. More often than not, they end up loosing money. These >parties often end up being at the beach, or in a warehouse, or at >someone's house, or even in someone's garage & machine shop next to the >freeway. ;) > >I'm talking about the untarnished pure celebration of music, dance, >friendship and community that is impossible to mass produce or market. >You can't buy this kind of experience... but it's here for those who >want it and are ready for it. > > > >Don't you see? Raves aren't about glitter and candy and fancy props >and neat venues and impressive djs or any of that other bullshit. All >that crap is shallow meaningless fluff - totally fucking worthless... >kinda like angel food cake... > > >REAL parties are about the PEOPLE > > > >If your raving experience isn't about your friends, and making new >ones, then what the hell's the point? If you are not throwing your >party because you have a blast doing it with the people that you love, >then why put in all the time & effort to throw a party? A lot of >fucking work and planning and time and risk go into planning parties, >as all of you know, and it's not always fun. But I've found that the >experience of working together to create something collectively >ultimately brings the group closer together. > >I love raves, and I will continue to give time, energy, love, and my >entire soul to that which given me so much. > >But I do what i do because I love this community, and I love my >friends. I do not ever want to profit as a result of being a >contributing member to this community. I would (personally) never >accept money spin records. Now, I'm NOT saying that it is evil to get >paid to spin... i am very aware that records cost a lot of money. >Djing by no stretch of anyone's imagination a cheep hobby! This is >just a personal choice that helps keep things clear in my head about my >motivations and priorities. I consider it a sacred honor to share the >music that i cherish so deeply with those who i love. This just isn't >something that want to do for money. > >I guess I finally started to ask myself questions like "What can i do >to contribute to the next party?" "These people have the right idea... >How can I help them? "What can I do to make this party one step >better?" "What can I bring to the community to share from myself?" I >started to view the scene in a totally fresh perpective. > >In a world so full of greed, competition, shallow accumulation of >property, and perpetual constant self >gratification, all the way from the cars we drive on down to our >personal hygiene products, isn't it *such* a refreshing alternative to >be a part of something as sacred and spiritual as the underground rave >community? > >We have the all precursors of a REAL revolution on our hands.... > >This is just the beginning. > >Although I never use this expression, >I feel like it is appropriate here and now... > >To all of you whom I love so much: >Peace, Love, Unity and Respect. > >--Adam >aka John Flight > > >--Adam >aka John Flight > >Thank you for being so patient with me through all this. I welcome feedback. > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 17:45:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2236 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 17:45:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 2108 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 17:45:47 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 17:45:47 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (8059) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNQNa26068 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:45:10 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <10c6fc2.24632f26@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 13:45:10 EDT Subject: Re: Metropolis To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/6/1999 10:26:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, WizardCCCA@aol.com writes: << Gee... SOOO sorry for asking STUPID questions... if you had read some of the former posts, I am NEW to the LIST! Sheesh... I feel the love. But thanks to some NICE people on the list, they sent me the line up and where it is and all the info I needed that actually wasn't on the CALENDAR that I happened to check out a few weeks ago. Thank you SO much for your KINDNESS, Liz >> Another victim to Paul*E*Wog. Paul, should I start keeping track? Well maybe I shouldnt. It would take up all my time. hahaha Peace, M Groove On From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 17:56:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12467 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 17:56:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 12239 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 17:56:47 -0000 Received: from fillmore0.paix.cp.net (HELO fillmore.criticalpath.net) (209.228.15.76) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 17:56:47 -0000 Received: (cpmta 15865 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 10:56:45 -0700 Date: 6 May 1999 10:56:45 -0700 Message-ID: <19990506175645.15864.cpmta@fillmore.criticalpath.net> X-Sent: 6 May 1999 17:56:45 GMT Received: from [207.251.8.162] by mail.club.net with HTTP; 06 May 1999 10:56:45 PDT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Tabitha Hanrion X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.0 Subject: Re: (NRR) cancerous ingredients HOAX! Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk http://www.snopes.com/toxins/shampoo.htm As a general rule folks, before you send things like this out to everyone, check to make sure if it's true. Great place for information about urban legends is www.snopes.com tabitha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 18:36:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19258 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 18:36:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 19050 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 18:35:55 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 18:35:55 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-h3 (mmf32.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.102]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA18363; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:35:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905061835.LAA18363@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: Taiida@aol.com From: "Rafie" Subject: RE: E question????? CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 11:39:10 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Some amount of people have freak reactions to certain things. It might not have been to the E itself, but to something else in the pill. I think one of the first of the publicized ecstacy-caused deaths in the UK was caused by some allergy that a girl had. I have a disturbing anecdote from a few weeks ago. Some people I know were shrooming, and an hour or so after coming up this girl had some sort of SEIZURE and passed out. Everyone thought she was dead. I'm sure you can visualize how fun that trip must have been. But she woke up after a while, and got herself checked out and she was okay...huh. Everyone should realize that when you do any drug there is a very small chance that an allergic reaction to some chemical or something could happen! Rafie On Wed, 5 May 1999 01:36:28 EDT, Taiida@aol.com wrote... >Ok, my sister heard that a girl in a sorority down in Santa Barbara died >from >dropping E. The girl went with her sorority sisters to a party and they >all >did E and she was the only one that had a reaction where her chest swelled >up, and had all sorts of other reactions and then finally she couldn't >breathe and just died right there. > >ANYONE KNOW WHAT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED?? I KNOW THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE >DIFFERENT >REACTIONS, BUT HOW???? > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 18:41:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25253 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 18:41:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 25232 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 18:41:34 -0000 Received: from netcom14.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.126) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 18:41:34 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom14.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id LAA19506; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:41:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 11:41:32 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Reply-To: unclenoah Subject: Re: If you care about raves... To: E-Bumpers By the Bay In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990506102845.006c3290@mail.ixpres.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk okay this is long. my central argument (and i mean argument in the academic sense, i don't mean a dispute) when discussing the Rave Scene is that it is primarily an arts and entertainment scene with a specialized crowd of fans and participants, and some cross-over into other more main-stream areas. i honestly do not feel that the Rave Scene meets the academic criteria for a 'Social Movement' or a 'Counter Culture', though those lables are thrust upon The Scene by both outsiders and insiders. now, in trying to find a parallel, i've realized that the Rave Scene shares *a lot* in common with the Independent Film Scene. in both cases you've got independent artists and producers trying to put forth products that are seen to carry a higher degree of artistic merit than the more "commercialized" end of the medium. in both cases fans range from folks who simply observe the art to those who are actively involved in the creation, production, promotion and presentation. i think that the Rave Scene can actually learn a lot from the Indy Film Scene. look, the Indy Film folks have festivals. these have been and are held pretty much anywhere there is room to set up a screen and a projector. but, over time the methods of showcasing the efforts of these independent producers and artist have become a little more refined. now, what used to be a bunch of folks getting together to spend a weekend looking at films has turned into respected events like the Sundance Film Festival. events like this have even become places where the cross-over between independent production and "main-stream" or "commercial" ends. the Rave Scene is currently in a cycle of stagnation and self-destruction because The Scene as a whole refuses to grow and change. all night parties getting busted? locations getting shut down and forcing your parties into unsavory areas? why stand for it?! why not present this as an art scene and rent out a hall for a day (wow!)? why not lobby for support from music shools, or university music programs? why not go for arts grants to support the growth of The Scene and The Music? i think there are opportunities for the Rave Scene to step up to a new level. there's no need for 14 year old kids ODing in dirty warehouses anymore. there's no need for cops shooting ravers, there's no need for people dying out in the desert. if you really care about the Rave Scene, work to help it grow! you'd be amazed by the support you'll find out there for legal, permitted, secure venues. not too long ago i had a party at Planet Hollywood here in Orange County!! we blasted breakbeats at full volume for like 6 solid hours in one of the most conservative areas of the state and didn't get so much as a whisper of trouble from the cops or anyone else. the opportunity to take the Scene to the next level is before all of us. we can join hands and make it into something better, or we can keep rolling around in ravefunk at dangerous venues and bitch and moan about how great things were back in the day. i'm looking forward to the day when there are events in par with Sundance for the Rave Scene. and i'll still be making music and spinning records. :o) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 18:42:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25988 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 18:42:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 25967 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 18:42:24 -0000 Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 18:42:24 -0000 Received: from [209.179.148.229] (pool286-cvx.ds51-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.147.36]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07650 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:42:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: radley@mail.elemental.nu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 11:41:32 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Radley Marx Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 18:42:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26087 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 18:42:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 25979 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 18:42:25 -0000 Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 18:42:25 -0000 Received: from [209.179.148.229] (pool286-cvx.ds51-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.147.36]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07604; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:42:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: radley@mail.elemental.nu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990506130912.12366.rocketmail@web904.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 11:42:55 -0700 To: Johnathan Flight From: Radley Marx Subject: Re: If you care about raves... Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk welcome to the dark side johnathan... :) If it helps, I think the concepts you describe are too separated. I don't= believe that any promoter out there is too far in either direction. I know= of a handful or so that are in the "milk the scene" camp from one= perspective, but just ordinary citizens from another. yes there's big money in this scene, but it's kinda filtered out now. The= costs are really high with a really big risk. At the same time, a really= good promoter might make as much as a really good doctor or attorney... so= who's getting "rich"? and yes there's more people coming to these events in the same way that rock= n roll blew up for the generations before us. but there is also a lot of= turnaround in both cultures. your story is just one example. but don't worry yourself too much about the profit potential from the scene.= music, entertainment, and hard work are all elements for serious profit= potential. there is the potential for a big payoff; but the greater payoff= is just being here. for myself, I'm really into creating new experiences.= things I wish I could have seen in my lifetime. but it takes tons of= financial security to take risks outside of the formula. I could be making= tons of $$$ doing corporate or porn www sites, or doing animation for yet= another star wars release (talk about milking a culture), but I'm doing= something that I get my hands on, that the people around me get to share= and experience, and that pays for my rent and new computer. the questions you ask are really general. they apply to all forms of= personal growth and advancement. you've only used the rave scene as a= foundation for this kind of personal conflict. most individuals will hit= these questions as they mature. ask any doctor, professor, warrior, or= attorney. these fields have the same conflict before them that you've= described. You know how to make $$$ from the role, even though the role was= meant for "higher purposes." remember... spirituality is always here and it has been here for a very long= time... tapping into it for the first time is the interesting part :) but the dark side: we are californians. we are far away from the people and= industry that supply this "culture" with content. and they treat this whole= thing as a business full of profit, marketing, and competition. its not the= Pope who's releasing all those hooj tunes. a new form of artist's industry= is being created. do we want to be at the top of the food chain, the= bottom, or somewhere in the middle? we can talk more if you want... -r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 18:54:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5414 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 18:54:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 5395 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 18:54:15 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 18:54:15 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-h3 (mmf32.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.102]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA24936; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:54:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905061854.LAA24936@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: bewitched@club.net From: "Rafie" Subject: RE: Ecstasy=Parkinson's? CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 11:57:31 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >``Although we have no firm evidence of a causal relation between this >patient's drug use and his parkinsonism, there are no other tenable >explanations,'' said the doctors, led by Scott Mintzer.On 5 May 1999 Hm, there's the key statement. Doing E 10 times over a year period? Uh, no, I don't think so. There have been people than have done much, much more than that, especially back when it started getting really popular again because of raves, ie 1990. And ten years later, I'm not aware of scads of early parkinson syndrome reports piling in. Rafie 17:56:38 -0700, bewitched@club.net wrote... >Ecstasy May Be Linked To Parkinson's Disease > >BOSTON (Reuters) - Repeated use of the hallucinogen ecstasy can lead to >Parkinson's disease, three University of Michigan doctors have suggested in >a letter to the New England Journal of Medicine. > >The claim is based on the case of a 29-year-old man who had taken ecstasy >nine times in 1997 and once in May 1998, three months before he began >developing symptoms. > >At first, he seemed clumsier than normal. Then, over a one-month period, he >began to have trouble walking, and lost his ability to write and drive. > >Tests showed he had Parkinson's disease, a brain condition that typically >appears in middle-aged and elderly people. It results in stiff, weak and >trembling muscles, and an unbalanced >walk. > >``Although we have no firm evidence of a causal relation between this >patient's drug use and his parkinsonism, there are no other tenable >explanations,'' said the doctors, led by Scott Mintzer. > >The patient's symptoms did not improve with drug treatment. > >The psychotropic drug popular with some U.S. psychiatrists and >psychologists in the 1970s and '80s for relationship therapy, was never >approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. A 1995 Johns Hopkins >study linked ecstasy with brain damage in animals. > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 19:03:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10840 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 19:03:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 10778 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 19:02:59 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 19:02:59 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA21274; Thu, 6 May 1999 14:02:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca4-32.ix.netcom.com(209.110.224.224) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma021183; Thu May 6 14:01:50 1999 Message-ID: <3731E6E1.1E04C91D@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 12:00:50 -0700 From: Ray Vonie Organization: Feel Good Entertainment X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Johnathan Flight CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: If you care about raves... References: <19990506130912.12366.rocketmail@web904.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Johnathan, I read your entire letter, and I respect your position, but yet I feel that you have overlooked that the exact same virtues that you feel in the underground which you love, also exist in the 'commercial' aspect of the raving culture with the 'business' side of the raving industry.. becuse it's still all about raving. Y sound like a true purist, and you believe that a certain substance is lost or diluted with the expansion of the scene. This is a valid perspective, and does have it's merits. however, there is a certain amount of give-n-take with everything. I would agree with you that some aspect of deep and core community values get overlooked and downplayed on the large scale of many of today's parties, but at the same time, there is an incredible beauty in the sheer magnitude of the massive vibe that no small underground party can ever physically manifest. This spirit is still what raving is all about... it's just different than what YOU are personally inclined to. today's scene WAS developed and influenced by ravers who became buisness orinted in order to produce beter, safer, and more enjoyable raves. Every rave promoter I know was once a hard-core raver, and many still are, and deep in their hearts they express that with their love for what they do as promoters or dj's, or music producers.. or whatever.... and that's the insight that guided them to do what they are doing. It's still raving. It's still about bringing people together through music and dancing, and making people happy. It's just bigger, and larger, and more powerful... and just as intense to those that enjoy it. Im not disagreeing with your perspective, I think it very sincere and positive, but at the same time, I feel that it is a somewhat narrow view of what is truly going on based on what raving has evolved into. The drugs, the money, the turnover, and the irresponsible activities have always been a part of this scene. They are just more obvious now, with the sheer size of how big the scene and the parties have become. Raving has grown in size over the years, and because of this the diversity within the scene has grown as well. In the early days, it was all house, and techno... now there's more than 100 different styles of Rave-Electronica flavors form jungle to happy hard-core to cybertance to goa to experimental dub to.... etc. And with that comes different dj's that specialize in all that type of music, and parties that focus on those music's. The rest of the scene works the same way. That's the beauty of it. Growth is a powerful force, and this scene is growing, which makes it an adversarial entity towards the influence that our culture plays within our society. It's a worldwide phenomena... and it's a global thing. That's what makes it so incredible, and why people are drawn to it... because of it's powerful message and attraction. there will always be different levels of underground. Underground is not a constant, and most raving is still underground, however some raving is more underground than the rest, and then there are some so UG that it barley qualifies as raving, but more like a private party. But basically what Im saying is that I believe in raving, and at the same time I am one of the people that has committed my life to raving, and producing parties, and music... because I enjoy it, and it gives me a great deal of personal satisfaction to see others feel good and enjoy the fruits of my labor. and even though many times I cannot join everyone else on the dance floor, my heart and spirit is out there... taking it to the limit. Reality is what you make it. Keep it real, and keep it mellow, Vlad Johnathan Flight wrote: > I appologize if any of you are receiving this for the second time. > > > > What does raving mean to you... > > It's kind of funny... I've been thinking a lot about ravers the last > day or two... Ravers genearlly all start out their raving careers with > the same mindset: amazed, enthralled, excited... mystified... the spark > of discovering something incredible... The dreams of becoming a part > of it. > > Then it becomes a part of life. A way of life. And finally, they > either somehow become part of scene (i.e. dj, promoter, clothing > designer, drug dealer, etc.) or they get burned out and quit. I'd say > that at LEAST 75%, probably more, burn out and quit anywhere from 6 > months to 2 years from their first party. > > I've also observed that those who do become part of the scene in one > form or another eventually go down one of > two paths. (generally speaking). > > > For the first path, there are those who, by either conscious decision > or by circumstantial opportunity, end up making raving their career. > Of those who do not burt out, this is the vast majority. They find a > means of supporting themselves, one way or another. It really is not > terribly difficult. Consider promoters: It's pretty damn tempting, > and downright powerful to be able to throw a party w/ 1000 people at 10 > bucks a head (and those are VERY conservative numbers nowadays. Do the > math, folks. I mean, they're not just paying thier rent with the money > that was earned from the last party they threw. This is big business, > and there is big money being made. Now there are also lots of profit > oriented parties on a smaller scale, and and many of these promoters > put alot of effort into creating fantastic environments. But it's > still basically the same kind of event: Try to get as many > people that the venue can hold to come & pay as much as they are > willing to. The kids are attracted by the fancy fliers or flashy > linups. No matter what party it is though the promoters know that what > their income and costs will be, and they have this in common: It's a > business. But throwing parties is just one way to live off the rave > scene. > > Some are spinning out every weekend, sometimes 2 or three times a week, > and getting paid quite well for it. Many dream of opening a record > store or a clothing store. And of course quite a few are selling > pills. It's good quick money and it's fuckin easy And there are tons > of other creative ways to go home from parties with more cash in your > pocket than was there when you came... > > So now they are part of the rave scene. I know a LOT of people like > this, and they are NOT evil people at all. But most of them aren't too > thrilled about parties any more either.... > > Take a second to ask yourself, "Why do I rave?" > > Probably most of you would answer something like, because i like the > music... because i love the atmosphere.... because i love the open > heartedness... because i love the feeling of unity.... i love how > everyone is so nice and sharing and beautiful. Okay, fine. > > > Now really think about this: > > Try to imagine it if rather than going to a party to share with > beautiful amazing people your feelings of unity, love and peace, you go > and see a whole bunch of kids who you don't know, most of whom are on a > too many drugs some of which probobly originated from either your > pocket or that of someone you know quite well. (and when i mean kids i > mean like people who are not graduating from high school any time soon) > How does that feel? > > Imagine that you are spinning at this party, not to share your deepest, > most passionate, soul touching, spirit raising music with the people > you love with all your heart, but instead you are spinning because they > are paying you 200 bucks to play at a party you would not be at > otherwise. > > Imagine, if you were constantly working or DJing parties every weekend > that were chalk full of people who are grossly irresponsible and > dangerous with drugs, and who don't understand the scene the way you > do, what it means to you, what it is capable of being, and who don't > give a shit about any of that peace & love & unity that you once > believed in... > > don't you think that eventually going to parties would become sort of > like a chore? > > Why, again, do we go to these things? > > And if you think that you can keep up with the ever expanding, ever > exploding scene, and keep the message clear and the vibe pure, I'm > afraid that I have got news for you... The numbers are working against > you. This is how the great rave scene equation works. This is not > just my imagination, this is a FACT. You can ask anyone who's been > partying for 2 years or more, and i'm sure that they will agree with > this: The number of people who go to their first party every weekend > is on the increase, as it has been for a long fucking time. And the > number of people who move on with their lives and stop going to parties > is also on the increase. The "general pool of who is going to raves" > while although it is increasing in size, For the most part it stays > constant in age and experience. There's always going to be more and > more and more new heads and you can never know them all because they > are always changing. It's just too big. And it's the same routine > every weekend, only every party seems to be slightly more > diluted, slightly less amazing, slightly less of something special... > > This is what is happening to the rave scene, as i bet that it has > happened to every other underground culture in history. > > It is inevitable: commercialization is leading to the dilution of the > substance of what raves are. > > here's a little analogy for u: The rave scene is a glass of fine > scotch whiskey. Okay, just pretend you like scotch... bear w/ me. =) > So you constantly add drops of water to the glass, and simultaneously > removing drops with an dropper (you know, one of those things that > looks like a tiny tiny mini turkey baster... you know what i'm talking > about). After long enough, you are left with a glass of slightly funny > tasting water. Well, maybe it's not a perfect analogy... but you get > the picture... but back to all seriousness and all.. here comes the > point to all this > > > > There is, however, another way. > > > the other path... > > > > The second path, the path seems by far least traveled, and offers > something completely different. There are people who have been going > to, spinning at, and throwing parties for years. Not because they're > getting paid. More often than not, they end up loosing money. These > parties often end up being at the beach, or in a warehouse, or at > someone's house, or even in someone's garage & machine shop next to the > freeway. ;) > > I'm talking about the untarnished pure celebration of music, dance, > friendship and community that is impossible to mass produce or market. > You can't buy this kind of experience... but it's here for those who > want it and are ready for it. > > > > Don't you see? Raves aren't about glitter and candy and fancy props > and neat venues and impressive djs or any of that other bullshit. All > that crap is shallow meaningless fluff - totally fucking worthless... > kinda like angel food cake... > > > REAL parties are about the PEOPLE > > > > If your raving experience isn't about your friends, and making new > ones, then what the hell's the point? If you are not throwing your > party because you have a blast doing it with the people that you love, > then why put in all the time & effort to throw a party? A lot of > fucking work and planning and time and risk go into planning parties, > as all of you know, and it's not always fun. But I've found that the > experience of working together to create something collectively > ultimately brings the group closer together. > > I love raves, and I will continue to give time, energy, love, and my > entire soul to that which given me so much. > > But I do what i do because I love this community, and I love my > friends. I do not ever want to profit as a result of being a > contributing member to this community. I would (personally) never > accept money spin records. Now, I'm NOT saying that it is evil to get > paid to spin... i am very aware that records cost a lot of money. > Djing by no stretch of anyone's imagination a cheep hobby! This is > just a personal choice that helps keep things clear in my head about my > motivations and priorities. I consider it a sacred honor to share the > music that i cherish so deeply with those who i love. This just isn't > something that want to do for money. > > I guess I finally started to ask myself questions like "What can i do > to contribute to the next party?" "These people have the right idea... > How can I help them? "What can I do to make this party one step > better?" "What can I bring to the community to share from myself?" I > started to view the scene in a totally fresh perpective. > > In a world so full of greed, competition, shallow accumulation of > property, and perpetual constant self > gratification, all the way from the cars we drive on down to our > personal hygiene products, isn't it *such* a refreshing alternative to > be a part of something as sacred and spiritual as the underground rave > community? > > We have the all precursors of a REAL revolution on our hands.... > > This is just the beginning. > > Although I never use this expression, > I feel like it is appropriate here and now... > > To all of you whom I love so much: > Peace, Love, Unity and Respect. > > --Adam > aka John Flight > > > --Adam > aka John Flight > > Thank you for being so patient with me through all this. I welcome feedback. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 19:27:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29028 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 19:27:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 28997 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 19:27:00 -0000 Received: from fortune-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO fortune.excite.com) (198.3.99.203) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 19:27:00 -0000 Received: from doby.excite.com ([199.172.152.182]) by fortune.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990506192632.DZRD29653.fortune@doby.excite.com> for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 12:26:32 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: newbies on sfraves will learn.... Message-Id: <926018793.20717.118@excite.com> Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 12:26:33 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk once you sub to this list, you'll eventually learn some new things... these include.... 1. paul e wog must be met ... in person .... in order to understand him. don't even respond to him until you have met him... don't try to understand him, because you'll get him wrong. you'll think he's joking when he's not.. and you'll think he's serious when he's just playing with you... or himself... or whatever. no matter, just meet him, it'll all make sense. 2. don't post until you've been on here a few weeks.... it says that in your "welcome" note for a reason... it's because you'll either ask something that *everyone* knows (or at least ten cold souls will tell you so), or you'll say something that we already went through until it was so painful, we couldn't hear one more word about it... whatever, your life will be easier if you get the "lay of the land" before you strike out on your own. 3. posts about computer viruses, drug mythology, poor children who will get a nickel from donald duck if you forward their message... all this stuff is best ignored. delete it... or if it really piques your interest, find some websites and do some real research on your own to understand. misinformation runs rampant... and remember, the "voice of authority" on this list... or any list... just may belong to a 13-year-old kid who's making it all up. 4. raving is different things to different people... don't let the cAndEKidZ wear you out.... don't let the shitstirrers stir you up... and don't think that *anyone* on here sees the world the way you do... talk about diversity! shit, we have people on this list who don't even think it's about the *music*! 5. ignore the idiots. you know who they are. ignore them, they live off of your responses... your horrified response to their blather is like a big gourmet meal to them... if you don't respond, they starve, and they'll move on... 6. take responsibility personally.... for what you say, how you say it, what you do, where you do it, what you know, how you use it. it's all up to you. 7. get the dancing more, will you folks? some of you guys need to move your feet, shake your booties, get your heart pounding with some bass... whatever the music is that makes you move... you'll feel better if you dance! less email, more music, that's what i say! (p.s. comeunity was good again last night!) love, leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 19:32:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1784 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 19:32:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 1754 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 19:32:26 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 19:32:26 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (14409) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vACMa13119; Thu, 6 May 1999 15:31:41 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 15:31:41 EDT Subject: BSP: Ethereal Line up. Let the vibe begin!!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, fresnoraves@hyperreal.org CC: Naomi0211@aol.com, terry@saturn5.com (terry estioko), audioangel@hotmail.com, swat37@uclink4.berkeley.edu (swati shah), stefango@yahoo.com (Stefan Gosiewski), jw@wgdsearch.com (Jessica\ Webster), madmacks@best.com (Jonathan Mack), bischoff@corp.adaptec.com, Bischoff@hyperreal.org, John@aol.com, leslie.ayres@excite.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Here you go people, the final line up and schedule for Ethereal. This will also be a pre-release party for Dj Soul Kid's CD. Limited copies will be available. Dont miss out. Ethereal. An Adventure in space and time. Friday May 14th. 10pm-5am. 550 Braneveld SF. 415_207_6283 or the club line @ 415_550_1380 Mind blowing visuals by- Stefan G & CultureLab Visuals $10.00 21+ Special perfomances by Mc Angel and Mc Duh! Main room: Li 10-11 (Harmony, House) Dyloot 11-12:30 (Skills, Techno) Micron 12:30-2 (Viberation, Trance) Soul Kid 2-3:30 (Groove On Productions, Break Beats, Orlando, Fl ) David Hopper 3:30-5 (Freedom Productions, Progressive house, LA ) Second Room Dysfnshnl 10-11 (Harmony Family, House) Thorfio 11-12 (Warmth, Breaks) Science 12-1:30 (Harmony, Jungle) Megatron 1:30-3 (UG, Jungle ) Prophet 3-4 (TransFusion, Progressive) SNRGY 4-5 (Groove On Productions, Trance, SF ) Loft DeepFog 10-12 (EBF, intelligent house) Andy W 12-2 (Viberation, Techno, Live, SF ) Triad 2-3:30 (Quest, ambient) Ruben Pantoja 3:30-5 (Groove On Productions, House, SF ) Groove On Let the vibe begin!!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 19:37:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5078 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 19:37:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 4911 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 19:37:39 -0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 19:37:39 -0000 Received: from fish.hooked.net (byoung@fish.hooked.net [206.80.6.48]) by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA17627; Thu, 6 May 1999 12:37:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 12:37:37 -0700 (PDT) From: boing X-Sender: byoung@fish.hooked.net To: leslie.ayres@excite.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: newbies on sfraves will learn.... In-Reply-To: <926018793.20717.118@excite.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 6 May 1999 leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > 7. get the dancing more, will you folks? some of you guys need to move > your feet, shake your booties, get your heart pounding with some bass... > whatever the music is that makes you move... you'll feel better if you > dance! less email, more music, that's what i say! (p.s. comeunity was good > again last night!) > anyone ever danced off that your shoe sole fell off? ever since then i make sure i wear well bonded, not too worn-out shoes... b- ____ Confucious says: "Don't be such a geek - take a shower once in a while." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 19:46:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10194 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 19:46:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 10184 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 19:46:48 -0000 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (140.142.33.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 19:46:48 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA28097 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 12:46:47 -0700 Message-ID: <009801be97f9$55c3d1a0$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: Subject: Re: newbies on sfraves will learn.... Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 12:47:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk wait, you are supposed to wear shoes? :) leslie, i thought your post was very shweet and non-threatening, and hopefully educative to many people. one more day till the weekend, folks. peace, alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- Whatever happened to the MC Times done changed for the MC Every woman and man wanna MC But for what, I'll tell ya MCin' ain't for you. -=- De La Sol -----Original Message----- From: boing To: leslie.ayres@excite.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, May 06, 1999 12:38 PM Subject: Re: newbies on sfraves will learn.... >On Thu, 6 May 1999 leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > >> 7. get the dancing more, will you folks? some of you guys need to move >> your feet, shake your booties, get your heart pounding with some bass... >> whatever the music is that makes you move... you'll feel better if you >> dance! less email, more music, that's what i say! (p.s. comeunity was good >> again last night!) >> > >anyone ever danced off that your shoe sole fell off? > >ever since then i make sure i wear well bonded, not too worn-out shoes... > >b- > >____ >Confucious says: >"Don't be such a geek - take a shower once in a while." > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 19:48:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11240 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 19:48:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 11232 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 19:48:20 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 19:48:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19990506194641.1080.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [129.210.88.159] by web4; Thu, 06 May 1999 12:46:41 PDT Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 12:46:41 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: Re: newbies on sfraves will learn.... To: boing Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ---boing wrote: > > anyone ever danced off that your shoe sole fell off? > > ever since then i make sure i wear well bonded, not too worn-out shoes... I ruined a beautiful pair of 3-hole oxblood docs once. I was at a ska show and after about 10 minutes of skanking the sole just flopped right off. And it was really bad walking home with the sole going *flop* *flop* *flop* -Science From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 19:50:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12761 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 19:50:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 12697 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 19:49:56 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 19:49:56 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com (14388) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id uEHOa04814; Thu, 6 May 1999 15:48:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: <3e71b184.24634c19@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 15:48:41 EDT Subject: Re: (NRR) cancerous ingredients HOAX! To: bewitched@club.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You know, it's funny. I work in a beauty store that sells pretty much all those products and I got that letter from a friend of mine that works for a distributor of those products. She said they were actually considering "discontinuing" some of those products because of the ingredient. Maybe I should forward her that site address! Sorry for the misinformation kiddies... In a message dated 5/6/99 10:57:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bewitched@club.net writes: << http://www.snopes.com/toxins/shampoo.htm As a general rule folks, before you send things like this out to everyone, check to make sure if it's true. Great place for information about urban legends is www.snopes.com >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 19:52:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15110 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 19:52:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 15092 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 19:52:01 -0000 Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (HELO MIT.EDU) (18.69.0.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 19:52:01 -0000 Received: from GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA10419; Thu, 6 May 99 15:52:02 EDT Received: from melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.69.0.45]) by grand-central-station.MIT.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA13215; Thu, 6 May 1999 15:39:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from benchun (BENCHUN.MIT.EDU [18.207.0.48]) by melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id PAA04865; Thu, 6 May 1999 15:39:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990506152342.00d97ea0@po8.mit.edu> X-Sender: benchun@po8.mit.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 15:39:30 -0400 To: Johnathan Flight , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: b e n c h u n Subject: Re: If you care about raves... In-Reply-To: <19990506130912.12366.rocketmail@web904.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Johnathan Flight, first, thank you for sharing your thoughts with us. it's not often that we see people try to set down that much idea in words and start a meaningful discussion. now, for response. your observations are valid: there is a lot of turnover in the scene. many people stay involved with raves by making a career of rave-related activities. some others operate on a collective basis, keeping it among friends and family. these are indeed two sides to the coin. true, also, that elements of subculture are co-opted by the mainstream "culture industry" (as Adorno and Horkheimer wrote in 1947). this is not a unique problem for our particular mode: take a look at punk, grunge, any number of artistic movements. here comes the problem: >Don't you see? Raves aren't about glitter and candy and fancy props >and neat venues and impressive djs or any of that other bullshit. All >that crap is shallow meaningless fluff - totally fucking worthless... >kinda like angel food cake... > >REAL parties are about the PEOPLE i don't think that you can say that raves are or are not about this or that. maybe this is how you feel right now, and frankly i agree with you. but it is not for you or i to say "this is how it is" in words. the only such statements that are valid are made by out ACTIONS: the parties we throw, the places we choose to spin. i sympathize with your attempt to promote your viewpoint, to ask people to think more deeply about why they do what they do. this is a good thing. but in the end, it's really not practical to wed yourself emotionally to the scene. it's volitile. it actually is inhabited by many of these very-young very-on-drugs people for whom it is indeed an adolescent phase. for whom it will never be what it is to you and i. so why shackle yourself to that? the rave scene is merely a basis, an example, a prototype. i have to agree with you that "This is just the beginning." but the beginning of what? my answer is: the beginning of a series of attempts to define new social spaces that focus on personal growth coupled with understanding today's art and music in their own terms and in the context of history. now maybe we're getting somewhere... . . . . . . . benchun@mit.edu http://mdma.mit.edu/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 20:04:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22745 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 20:04:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 22732 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 20:03:59 -0000 Received: from web105.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 20:03:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19990506200409.29805.rocketmail@web105.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web105.yahoomail.com; Thu, 06 May 1999 13:04:09 PDT Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 13:04:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: If you care about raves... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk First off, I'd like to request to all others that reply to this thread to remember that it started with a 11k message and should omit resending the whole message. ;) Anyhoo... Well I think I know coming from. Even though I'm still in that first year (I did go to a few in '95 while on vacation, but I don't count them) I can see the two paths. I'm not sure if the commercialization has increased in the past year or if I have increased noticing it. All I know is, "There gold in dem dare hillz." And the gold rush continues. I'm just waiting to flick through the channels and find MTV's daily Jungle Count Down or Nite show MTV-Rave. It should be much longer, if it is not there already-I don't watch much TV. But with everything else, there will always be those that are real. Take bars/pubs for instance. There are those that are really flashy that everyone wants into and those that just sell beer. Why else go to a bar other than to enjoy a frost mug of beer. ;) We are like fish. There is a "main stream" in which we all came from and the "under ground" stream that emerge along side of this main stream. Some fish started out in this new stream as soon as it started its flow. This flow for the most part parallels the main stream. Because of this, it is easy for other fish to make there way to it from the main stream. Some of these fish can adapt to the new stream and other can't and then return to the main stream. Then there are others that don't want to adapt nor return, these ones bring with them that which they need from the main stream. With all this migration between the two streams, the banks separating them are becoming worn and breaking away. Before long the banks will be gone and the new stream will become part of the main stream. With this those fish that don't want to be in the main stream will stay along the far banks searching for tributaries and new streams emerging from the ground. And so this is life. *HUGZ* pat From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 20:10:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26633 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 20:10:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 26609 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 20:10:20 -0000 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (140.142.33.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 20:10:20 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id NAA30332 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:10:19 -0700 Message-ID: <011101be97fc$9ef10160$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: Subject: Re: Ethereal Line up. Let the vibe begin!!!! Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 13:11:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk For all those that can, try to go out to this! Not only does the line-up sound kick-arse, but... Stefan G on the visuals!! This should be enough to go, on those merits alone. Some of the best, no, the best visuals, I have ever seen. (in March at the Justice League for a reggea show) And what a nice and thoughtful guy to boot! I eagerly await the reviews! Peace, Alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- Whatever happened to the MC Times done changed for the MC Every woman and man wanna MC But for what, I'll tell ya MCin' ain't for you. -=- De La Sol -----Original Message----- From: BigM009@aol.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org ; fresnoraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, May 06, 1999 12:32 PM Subject: BSP: Ethereal Line up. Let the vibe begin!!!! >Here you go people, the final line up and schedule for Ethereal. This will >also be a pre-release party for Dj Soul Kid's CD. Limited copies will be >available. Dont miss out. > >Ethereal. An Adventure in space and time. >Friday May 14th. 10pm-5am. 550 Braneveld SF. >415_207_6283 or the club line @ 415_550_1380 >Mind blowing visuals by- Stefan G & CultureLab Visuals >$10.00 21+ > >Special perfomances by Mc Angel and Mc Duh! > > >Main room: > >Li 10-11 (Harmony, House) >Dyloot 11-12:30 (Skills, Techno) >Micron 12:30-2 (Viberation, Trance) >Soul Kid 2-3:30 (Groove On Productions, Break >Beats, Orlando, Fl ) >David Hopper 3:30-5 (Freedom Productions, Progressive >house, LA ) > >Second Room > >Dysfnshnl 10-11 (Harmony Family, House) >Thorfio 11-12 (Warmth, Breaks) >Science 12-1:30 (Harmony, Jungle) >Megatron 1:30-3 (UG, Jungle ) >Prophet 3-4 (TransFusion, >Progressive) >SNRGY 4-5 (Groove On Productions, Trance, SF ) > >Loft > >DeepFog 10-12 (EBF, intelligent house) >Andy W 12-2 (Viberation, Techno, Live, SF ) >Triad 2-3:30 (Quest, ambient) >Ruben Pantoja 3:30-5 (Groove On Productions, House, SF ) > >Groove On >Let the vibe begin!!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 20:18:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1687 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 20:18:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 1586 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 20:18:53 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 20:18:53 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (546) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vOXEa20910 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 16:15:56 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <36ecc94c.2463527b@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 16:15:55 EDT Subject: Quote of the Day To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The human brain is a wonderful thing. It starts working the moment you are born, and never stops until you stand up to speak in public. - Sir George Jessel From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 20:32:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11527 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 20:32:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 11259 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 20:32:02 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 20:32:02 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA17973 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 15:31:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca55-61.ix.netcom.com(209.110.237.189) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma017919; Thu May 6 15:30:48 1999 Message-Id: <4.1.19990506133037.00be9320@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: ascend@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 13:33:03 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Greg Sandler Subject: Dj Greg Sandler Tapes!!! (bsp) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone, I just got more tapes printed up of the "Live @ Harmonics Vol 1" I guess they have been going quick cause I ran out, but never fear more are here!!! I am going to put them everywhere (in stores) in the bay area this weekend, and I will of course have them @ VORG and @ Spundae... So try to see me there if you want one! Peace and love, Greg= ) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 20:32:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11727 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 20:32:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 11468 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 20:32:07 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 20:32:07 -0000 Received: from user (access-50-28.ixpres.com [209.75.50.28]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA81908; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990506132657.006c2500@mail.ixpres.com> X-Sender: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 13:26:57 -0700 To: Ray Vonie From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: Re: If you care about raves... Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <3731E6E1.1E04C91D@ix.netcom.com> References: <19990506130912.12366.rocketmail@web904.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk YES! Ray & Ben, you have voiced exactly what is in my heart--what I was trying to and maybe didn't say as well as the both of you. Raving means something different to everyone, but there is definitely some collective consciousness underneath it all. Vlad is totally right that there have always been drugs/$$/turnover/irresponsibility. Maybe we're all concerned more about it now b/c we've grown so attached to the scene and the music (esp. since it's a way of life for many of us) that we're afraid it will be lost, destined to become a pop-culture lecture topic in the annals of history? (think of woodstock, monterey pop and like ben said, look @ grunge, ska etc.) It has been 10 years people, since this phenomenon began in the U.S., longer still in the Old World. Those of us who've been there from the beginning as well as all the newcomers are realizing just how much it means to us, so the negative scares us more than it did in the past. I agree 100% w/ Ben that for many it is their tripped out drug-happy phase, but wouldn't it be so wonderful if those who started out with that mindset ended up gaining further insight and took themselves a step further? It's quite possible....and we can't say THIS IS HOW IT IS or HOW IT SHOULD BE b/c frankly kidz, we've been making it up as we've gone along, haven't we? We're all in this together and are incredibly privileged to be part of this gathering(even tho some disagree it's a movement, i still believe it is)---and we're all doing it for the first time....keep doing what you love and we'll see what happens. Music which led to the dance which led to the physical manifestation of our spirit is what i believe is the unilateral dream of the scene [or at least my scene :O)]. so leslie, i will definitely try to dance my ass off, that's one promise that's not hard to keep! and hi macadio--i thought that was you but ya neva know. Yup, i'm still in san diego...waiting to hear from a few more law schools w/ crossed fingers, and enjoying the rebirth san diego is currently undergoing. When Paul Oakenfold & Sasha come to your town w/in a matter of months, you know life is good. :-) hope your life is good too. MUAH luv & gruve, madhvi At 12:00 PM 5/6/99 -0700, Ray Vonie wrote: > Johnathan, I read your entire letter, and I respect your position, but >yet I feel that you have overlooked that the exact same virtues that you feel in >the underground which you love, also exist in the 'commercial' aspect of the >raving culture with the 'business' side of the raving industry.. becuse it's >still all about raving. Y sound like a true purist, and you believe that a >certain substance is lost or diluted with the expansion of the scene. This is >a valid perspective, and does have it's merits. however, there is a certain >amount of give-n-take with everything. I would agree with you that some >aspect of deep and core community values get overlooked and downplayed on the >large scale of many of today's parties, but at the same time, there is an >incredible beauty in the sheer magnitude of the massive vibe that no small >underground party can ever physically manifest. This spirit is still what >raving is all about... it's just different than what YOU are personally inclined >to. today's scene WAS developed and influenced by ravers who became buisness >orinted in order to produce beter, safer, and more enjoyable raves. Every >rave promoter I know was once a hard-core raver, and many still are, and deep in >their hearts they express that with their love for what they do as promoters or >dj's, or music producers.. or whatever.... and that's the insight that guided >them to do what they are doing. It's still raving. It's still about >bringing people together through music and dancing, and making people happy. >It's just bigger, and larger, and more powerful... and just as intense to those >that enjoy it. > Im not disagreeing with your perspective, I think it very sincere and >positive, but at the same time, I feel that it is a somewhat narrow view of what >is truly going on based on what raving has evolved into. The drugs, the >money, the turnover, and the irresponsible activities have always been a part of >this scene. They are just more obvious now, with the sheer size of how big the >scene and the parties have become. Raving has grown in size over the years, and >because of this the diversity within the scene has grown as well. In the >early days, it was all house, and techno... now there's more than 100 different >styles of Rave-Electronica flavors form jungle to happy hard-core to cybertance >to goa to experimental dub to.... etc. And with that comes different dj's >that specialize in all that type of music, and parties that focus on those >music's. The rest of the scene works the same way. That's the beauty of >it. Growth is a powerful force, and this scene is growing, which makes it an >adversarial entity towards the influence that our culture plays within our >society. It's a worldwide phenomena... and it's a global thing. That's what >makes it so incredible, and why people are drawn to it... because of it's >powerful message and attraction. there will always be different levels of >underground. Underground is not a constant, and most raving is still >underground, however some raving is more underground than the rest, and then >there are some so UG that it barley qualifies as raving, but more like a private >party. > But basically what Im saying is that I believe in raving, and at the >same time I am one of the people that has committed my life to raving, and >producing parties, and music... because I enjoy it, and it gives me a great deal >of personal satisfaction to see others feel good and enjoy the fruits of my >labor. and even though many times I cannot join everyone else on the dance >floor, my heart and spirit is out there... taking it to the limit. Reality is >what you make it. > >Keep it real, and keep it mellow, Vlad > >Johnathan Flight wrote: > >> I appologize if any of you are receiving this for the second time. >> >> >> >> What does raving mean to you... >> >> It's kind of funny... I've been thinking a lot about ravers the last >> day or two... Ravers genearlly all start out their raving careers with >> the same mindset: amazed, enthralled, excited... mystified... the spark >> of discovering something incredible... The dreams of becoming a part >> of it. >> >> Then it becomes a part of life. A way of life. And finally, they >> either somehow become part of scene (i.e. dj, promoter, clothing >> designer, drug dealer, etc.) or they get burned out and quit. I'd say >> that at LEAST 75%, probably more, burn out and quit anywhere from 6 >> months to 2 years from their first party. >> >> I've also observed that those who do become part of the scene in one >> form or another eventually go down one of >> two paths. (generally speaking). >> >> >> For the first path, there are those who, by either conscious decision >> or by circumstantial opportunity, end up making raving their career. >> Of those who do not burt out, this is the vast majority. They find a >> means of supporting themselves, one way or another. It really is not >> terribly difficult. Consider promoters: It's pretty damn tempting, >> and downright powerful to be able to throw a party w/ 1000 people at 10 >> bucks a head (and those are VERY conservative numbers nowadays. Do the >> math, folks. I mean, they're not just paying thier rent with the money >> that was earned from the last party they threw. This is big business, >> and there is big money being made. Now there are also lots of profit >> oriented parties on a smaller scale, and and many of these promoters >> put alot of effort into creating fantastic environments. But it's >> still basically the same kind of event: Try to get as many >> people that the venue can hold to come & pay as much as they are >> willing to. The kids are attracted by the fancy fliers or flashy >> linups. No matter what party it is though the promoters know that what >> their income and costs will be, and they have this in common: It's a >> business. But throwing parties is just one way to live off the rave >> scene. >> >> Some are spinning out every weekend, sometimes 2 or three times a week, >> and getting paid quite well for it. Many dream of opening a record >> store or a clothing store. And of course quite a few are selling >> pills. It's good quick money and it's fuckin easy And there are tons >> of other creative ways to go home from parties with more cash in your >> pocket than was there when you came... >> >> So now they are part of the rave scene. I know a LOT of people like >> this, and they are NOT evil people at all. But most of them aren't too >> thrilled about parties any more either.... >> >> Take a second to ask yourself, "Why do I rave?" >> >> Probably most of you would answer something like, because i like the >> music... because i love the atmosphere.... because i love the open >> heartedness... because i love the feeling of unity.... i love how >> everyone is so nice and sharing and beautiful. Okay, fine. >> >> >> Now really think about this: >> >> Try to imagine it if rather than going to a party to share with >> beautiful amazing people your feelings of unity, love and peace, you go >> and see a whole bunch of kids who you don't know, most of whom are on a >> too many drugs some of which probobly originated from either your >> pocket or that of someone you know quite well. (and when i mean kids i >> mean like people who are not graduating from high school any time soon) >> How does that feel? >> >> Imagine that you are spinning at this party, not to share your deepest, >> most passionate, soul touching, spirit raising music with the people >> you love with all your heart, but instead you are spinning because they >> are paying you 200 bucks to play at a party you would not be at >> otherwise. >> >> Imagine, if you were constantly working or DJing parties every weekend >> that were chalk full of people who are grossly irresponsible and >> dangerous with drugs, and who don't understand the scene the way you >> do, what it means to you, what it is capable of being, and who don't >> give a shit about any of that peace & love & unity that you once >> believed in... >> >> don't you think that eventually going to parties would become sort of >> like a chore? >> >> Why, again, do we go to these things? >> >> And if you think that you can keep up with the ever expanding, ever >> exploding scene, and keep the message clear and the vibe pure, I'm >> afraid that I have got news for you... The numbers are working against >> you. This is how the great rave scene equation works. This is not >> just my imagination, this is a FACT. You can ask anyone who's been >> partying for 2 years or more, and i'm sure that they will agree with >> this: The number of people who go to their first party every weekend >> is on the increase, as it has been for a long fucking time. And the >> number of people who move on with their lives and stop going to parties >> is also on the increase. The "general pool of who is going to raves" >> while although it is increasing in size, For the most part it stays >> constant in age and experience. There's always going to be more and >> more and more new heads and you can never know them all because they >> are always changing. It's just too big. And it's the same routine >> every weekend, only every party seems to be slightly more >> diluted, slightly less amazing, slightly less of something special... >> >> This is what is happening to the rave scene, as i bet that it has >> happened to every other underground culture in history. >> >> It is inevitable: commercialization is leading to the dilution of the >> substance of what raves are. >> >> here's a little analogy for u: The rave scene is a glass of fine >> scotch whiskey. Okay, just pretend you like scotch... bear w/ me. =) >> So you constantly add drops of water to the glass, and simultaneously >> removing drops with an dropper (you know, one of those things that >> looks like a tiny tiny mini turkey baster... you know what i'm talking >> about). After long enough, you are left with a glass of slightly funny >> tasting water. Well, maybe it's not a perfect analogy... but you get >> the picture... but back to all seriousness and all.. here comes the >> point to all this >> >> >> >> There is, however, another way. >> >> >> the other path... >> >> >> >> The second path, the path seems by far least traveled, and offers >> something completely different. There are people who have been going >> to, spinning at, and throwing parties for years. Not because they're >> getting paid. More often than not, they end up loosing money. These >> parties often end up being at the beach, or in a warehouse, or at >> someone's house, or even in someone's garage & machine shop next to the >> freeway. ;) >> >> I'm talking about the untarnished pure celebration of music, dance, >> friendship and community that is impossible to mass produce or market. >> You can't buy this kind of experience... but it's here for those who >> want it and are ready for it. >> >> >> >> Don't you see? Raves aren't about glitter and candy and fancy props >> and neat venues and impressive djs or any of that other bullshit. All >> that crap is shallow meaningless fluff - totally fucking worthless... >> kinda like angel food cake... >> >> >> REAL parties are about the PEOPLE >> >> >> >> If your raving experience isn't about your friends, and making new >> ones, then what the hell's the point? If you are not throwing your >> party because you have a blast doing it with the people that you love, >> then why put in all the time & effort to throw a party? A lot of >> fucking work and planning and time and risk go into planning parties, >> as all of you know, and it's not always fun. But I've found that the >> experience of working together to create something collectively >> ultimately brings the group closer together. >> >> I love raves, and I will continue to give time, energy, love, and my >> entire soul to that which given me so much. >> >> But I do what i do because I love this community, and I love my >> friends. I do not ever want to profit as a result of being a >> contributing member to this community. I would (personally) never >> accept money spin records. Now, I'm NOT saying that it is evil to get >> paid to spin... i am very aware that records cost a lot of money. >> Djing by no stretch of anyone's imagination a cheep hobby! This is >> just a personal choice that helps keep things clear in my head about my >> motivations and priorities. I consider it a sacred honor to share the >> music that i cherish so deeply with those who i love. This just isn't >> something that want to do for money. >> >> I guess I finally started to ask myself questions like "What can i do >> to contribute to the next party?" "These people have the right idea... >> How can I help them? "What can I do to make this party one step >> better?" "What can I bring to the community to share from myself?" I >> started to view the scene in a totally fresh perpective. >> >> In a world so full of greed, competition, shallow accumulation of >> property, and perpetual constant self >> gratification, all the way from the cars we drive on down to our >> personal hygiene products, isn't it *such* a refreshing alternative to >> be a part of something as sacred and spiritual as the underground rave >> community? >> >> We have the all precursors of a REAL revolution on our hands.... >> >> This is just the beginning. >> >> Although I never use this expression, >> I feel like it is appropriate here and now... >> >> To all of you whom I love so much: >> Peace, Love, Unity and Respect. >> >> --Adam >> aka John Flight >> >> >> --Adam >> aka John Flight >> >> Thank you for being so patient with me through all this. I welcome feedback. > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 20:36:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15020 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 20:36:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 14862 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 20:36:34 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 20:36:34 -0000 Received: from user (access-50-28.ixpres.com [209.75.50.28]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA82532; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990506133223.006c1190@mail.ixpres.com> X-Sender: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 13:32:23 -0700 To: Patrick Seaton , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: Re: If you care about raves... In-Reply-To: <19990506200409.29805.rocketmail@web105.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk great analogy pat! luv & gruve madhvi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 20:39:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17602 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 20:39:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 17518 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 20:39:54 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 20:39:54 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (8049) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id oYHUa27691; Thu, 6 May 1999 16:06:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <805fbe8d.24635048@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 16:06:32 EDT Subject: Re: NRR Muni Muni Muni.... To: nuku@sfsu.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i loved yo muni stowEEz nuku. i got some bus stories too being that my broke ass dont have a car =) ....well i dont have energy to write a novel yet but u will see my 2 bee continued post on this soon.....hehehhee DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 21:02:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6480 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 21:02:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 6469 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 21:02:46 -0000 Received: from law-f25.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.88) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 21:02:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 86678 invoked by uid 0); 6 May 1999 21:02:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990506210218.86677.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.236.45.61 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 06 May 1999 14:02:18 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.236.45.61] From: "Wil Hanno" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: newbies on sfraves will learn.... Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 14:02:18 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey! it's page one of the SF Raver handbook! peace 2 u -John From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 21:26:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26365 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 21:26:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 26320 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 21:26:29 -0000 Received: from x15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 21:26:29 -0000 Received: (from elias_smith@juno.com) by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D9YD6L3S; Thu, 06 May 1999 17:24:43 EDT To: nuku@sfsu.edu Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:42:05 -0700 Subject: Re: NRR Muni Muni Muni.... Message-ID: <19990417.004207.-801179.0.Elias_Smith@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-2,8-9,23-24,29-30 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: the town drunk Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hehe. good stuff Nuku. I think I may have been on a few of those rides! ; ) Have you ever got on the F-Line with the singing bus driver? It was Earth Day about two years ago, and as I was gettin on, he was shouting, "Happy, happy Earth Day! Happy, happy Earth Day!", in this crazy, obnoxious voice. Then he got on the intercom, which is projected onto Market Street, and began to sing, "Such a beautiful day in the Neighborhood", by Mr. Rodgers. That was good sh*t. And you mentioned a story concerning a crack-head's bush. Oh man! One time I was riding the 42-line on Van Ness with my g-friend. As we were approaching a stop, there was this crack-head couple there and we KNEW it was gonna be good. She was attempting hand-stands as the bus approached and he was just covering his eyes as if he weren't there. We thought she was gonna try and get on the bus walking on her hands. No such luck. They get on, and instead of her sitting down and finding seating while he is still trying to stuff dollar bills in the machine that seems to never want to take your freagin' dollar bills, she decides to do pull-ups on the handle bars at the front of the bus for the whole line to watch. Of course she is shouting, "Hercules, I'm Hercules!" He is standing looking like he is about to punch her saying, "God dammit woman! You're gonna get us arrested!" The best part was, well not really, she was wearing tights with no underwear, and when she did those pull-ups.... Oh, man. And I once heard the BEST pick-up line on Muni. I was riding the bus with one of my co-workers. As we arrived at our stop, my co-worker and I, me being a scrawny white kid, both got up and a black man sitting behind us said to her "Mmm, mmm, baby. Do yourself a fava, and try another flava." Yup, we love MUNI! or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 21:29:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27628 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 21:29:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 27605 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 21:29:42 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 21:29:42 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-199.dsp.com [204.118.76.199]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA28086 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 14:29:39 -0700 Message-Id: <199905062129.OAA28086@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 14:29:10 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: NRR?: SSRIs and kids Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I just thought this was interesting, given the recent threads about mdma and ssris, and that article I found in Harpers about the rampant Rx-ing of ssris for children... Note: this is either sloppy detective work or sloppy journalism - probably both - they say they found Luvox in his blood, but don't know why or how much he was taking. They also say that Luvox isn't monitored via bloodtests but by MD/pt. visits. Has no one looked into his MD file? Der? Sheesh... By Ann Schrader Denver Post Medicine/Science Writer May 4 - Jefferson County authorities confirmed Monday that Eric Harris had a psychotropic drug called Luvox in his bloodstream, but an expert said there is no scientific evidence connecting such medication to behavior changes that involve hostile outbursts. Harris had a lower mid-level therapeutic amount of Luvox in his blood when he apparently shot himself after the Columbine High School shooting spree. The Jefferson County coroner's office reported Monday that initial toxicology testing on shooting suspects Harris and Dylan Klebold was negative for drugs, but additional testing was done once it was indicated that Harris may have been taking a psychotropic drug. It's not known what the Luvox level was in Harris' blood, and it's not known what Harris' diagnosis was or how long he may have been on the drug. Luvox, like Prozac, is a serotonin selective reuptake inhibitor, or SSRI, which helps to boost the level of the neurotransmitter serotonin - which regulates mood and intrusive and repetitive thoughts - in the brain. Luvox has only been on the market since 1994. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has only approved Luvox for treating obsessive-compulsive disorder in children, although it is widely used as an antidepressant in Europe. A report released in March by the U.S. Agency for Health Care Policy and Research stated there hasn't been enough research on whether SSRIs are effective in treating depressed children and adolescents, and mildly depressed adults. Studies before Luvox was put on the market indicate that the drug triggered mania in 1 percent of the cases. Davies, however, said those were people who actually had Bipolar Affective Disorder, in which there are swings between a "high," agitated mood and depression. Davies said Luvox isn't tracked with blood tests during therapy. Instead, monitoring of drugs such as Luvox is done during doctor visits. Doctor and patient discuss whether symptoms are easing and whether there are side effects, and the dosage is adjusted. A therapeutic level of Luvox is the amount needed to control symptoms, Davies said, so it varies from patient to patient. Psychotropic is a generic term for any medication that psychiatrists used to treat a psychiatric illness. It is often confused, Davies said, with the term "psychotic" which means the person suffers from a distortion of reality. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 21:35:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29632 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 21:35:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 29623 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 21:35:13 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 21:35:13 -0000 Received: from UnUm2@aol.com (4535) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vVLPa13120 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 17:31:28 -0400 (EDT) From: UnUm2@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 17:31:27 EDT Subject: ROOMATE NEEDED TO SHARE HOUSE IN SAN JOSE To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk If you are looking for a room to rent and can afford $500 per month and pt utililties, please email me. The room is available now and I need to rent it fast. Cool enviornment and nice area. Wanted >fun person to rent room Lots of room and privacy 2500sq ft house MUST RENT SOON From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 21:48:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9645 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 21:48:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 9637 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 21:48:36 -0000 Received: from web308.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.225) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 21:48:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990506215056.25164.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.179.144.44] by web308.yahoomail.com; Thu, 06 May 1999 14:50:56 PDT Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 14:50:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Miss E Subject: YOU SLEPT on the Planet V Tour! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey hey you naughty junglists you missed an amazing night last night at the dna lounge where none other than JUMPIN JACK FROST, BRIAN G and MC MOOSE of V RECORDINGS turned it loose... droppin mad BASS and DUBPLATES. there were probably less than 50 heads there. the night was promoted really poorly, we only found out about it a week ago. next time be sure to catch 'em at eklektic. HEADS UP Miss E + dmarie ::::::::::::: GROUNDSCORE.SF 415.332.5800 x797 http://www.radio-v.com http://www.izmedia.com/eklektic http://www.izmedia.com/futurebreaks From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 22:07:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18779 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 22:07:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 18710 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 22:07:45 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd85.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.149) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 22:07:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 97374 invoked by uid 0); 6 May 1999 22:09:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19990506220920.97373.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.111.184.96 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 06 May 1999 15:09:20 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.111.184.96] From: "Justin Hale" To: scr@socal-raves.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org, NW-RAVES@hyperreal.org, PB-CLE-RAVES@hyperreal.org, MTN-RAVES@hyperreal.org, SERAVES@american.edu, MW-RAVES@TAZ.hyperreal.org, SD-RAVES@PARTY.NET Subject: (BSP) Justin Hale Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 15:09:20 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey All, So here it is, my first house mix online. It's actually a mixtape that i recently released called "for the love of music" All you househeads, and just plain good music lovers, give it a whirl... the address is: www.twelveinch.com/djs.html if you like what you hear or even if you don't really, drop me a line, i'd like to know what you think and i still have some copies available. Also, i have an interview online at: www.selekta.com/interviews/ it's nice to be up there with the likes of Terry Mullan and DJ Theeo. if you'd like to come see and hear me play live, here are some of my upcoming gigs...or you can check out www.ravedata.com goto performer search and type in my name or any other dj you know and check out their schedule. 5/8 - VORG, SF 5/15 - Divergence Group Theory, SF 6/3 - Small house party in LA 6/10 - Club Gig, LA(Pomona)-A Simply Cosmic House Event 6/11 - Baby Phat, LA 6/19 - Imagine, LA 8/14 - What it is, LA email me if you want more info on any of these parties... peace and love to all take care of each other Justin Hale Simply Cosmic '99 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 22:20:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27841 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 22:20:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 27820 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 22:20:16 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 22:20:16 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (7817) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3QFAa16144 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 18:13:22 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <4df840ed.24636e01@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 18:13:21 EDT Subject: Fwd: If you care about raves... To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_4df840ed.24636e01_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_4df840ed.24636e01_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Welcome back. I have been searching for this post for a long time now. I knew it was there, it just wasn't coming up in my mailbox.. and then you sent it. The second path is what it's all about, everyone. I'm tired of the first path.. I see lots of people on it, taking the easy way out. WHen everyone gets back on the second path that's when our scene is going to be reborn. Our pool can be a little bit deeper...... hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva "Be a part, stand apart." --part1_4df840ed.24636e01_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-yg03.mx.aol.com (rly-yg03.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.3]) by air-yg05.mail.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Thu, 06 May 1999 09:10:21 2000 Received: from hyperreal.org (taz.hyperreal.org [209.133.83.16]) by rly-yg03.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with SMTP id JAA22665 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 09:10:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24059 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 13:10:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 23800 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 13:10:02 -0000 Received: from web904.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.79) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 13:10:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19990506130912.12366.rocketmail@web904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.233.16.87] by web904.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 06 May 1999 06:09:12 PDT Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Johnathan Flight Subject: If you care about raves... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I appologize if any of you are receiving this for the second time. What does raving mean to you... It's kind of funny... I've been thinking a lot about ravers the last day or two... Ravers genearlly all start out their raving careers with the same mindset: amazed, enthralled, excited... mystified... the spark of discovering something incredible... The dreams of becoming a part of it. Then it becomes a part of life. A way of life. And finally, they either somehow become part of scene (i.e. dj, promoter, clothing designer, drug dealer, etc.) or they get burned out and quit. I'd say that at LEAST 75%, probably more, burn out and quit anywhere from 6 months to 2 years from their first party. I've also observed that those who do become part of the scene in one form or another eventually go down one of two paths. (generally speaking). For the first path, there are those who, by either conscious decision or by circumstantial opportunity, end up making raving their career. Of those who do not burt out, this is the vast majority. They find a means of supporting themselves, one way or another. It really is not terribly difficult. Consider promoters: It's pretty damn tempting, and downright powerful to be able to throw a party w/ 1000 people at 10 bucks a head (and those are VERY conservative numbers nowadays. Do the math, folks. I mean, they're not just paying thier rent with the money that was earned from the last party they threw. This is big business, and there is big money being made. Now there are also lots of profit oriented parties on a smaller scale, and and many of these promoters put alot of effort into creating fantastic environments. But it's still basically the same kind of event: Try to get as many people that the venue can hold to come & pay as much as they are willing to. The kids are attracted by the fancy fliers or flashy linups. No matter what party it is though the promoters know that what their income and costs will be, and they have this in common: It's a business. But throwing parties is just one way to live off the rave scene. Some are spinning out every weekend, sometimes 2 or three times a week, and getting paid quite well for it. Many dream of opening a record store or a clothing store. And of course quite a few are selling pills. It's good quick money and it's fuckin easy And there are tons of other creative ways to go home from parties with more cash in your pocket than was there when you came... So now they are part of the rave scene. I know a LOT of people like this, and they are NOT evil people at all. But most of them aren't too thrilled about parties any more either.... Take a second to ask yourself, "Why do I rave?" Probably most of you would answer something like, because i like the music... because i love the atmosphere.... because i love the open heartedness... because i love the feeling of unity.... i love how everyone is so nice and sharing and beautiful. Okay, fine. Now really think about this: Try to imagine it if rather than going to a party to share with beautiful amazing people your feelings of unity, love and peace, you go and see a whole bunch of kids who you don't know, most of whom are on a too many drugs some of which probobly originated from either your pocket or that of someone you know quite well. (and when i mean kids i mean like people who are not graduating from high school any time soon) How does that feel? Imagine that you are spinning at this party, not to share your deepest, most passionate, soul touching, spirit raising music with the people you love with all your heart, but instead you are spinning because they are paying you 200 bucks to play at a party you would not be at otherwise. Imagine, if you were constantly working or DJing parties every weekend that were chalk full of people who are grossly irresponsible and dangerous with drugs, and who don't understand the scene the way you do, what it means to you, what it is capable of being, and who don't give a shit about any of that peace & love & unity that you once believed in... don't you think that eventually going to parties would become sort of like a chore? Why, again, do we go to these things? And if you think that you can keep up with the ever expanding, ever exploding scene, and keep the message clear and the vibe pure, I'm afraid that I have got news for you... The numbers are working against you. This is how the great rave scene equation works. This is not just my imagination, this is a FACT. You can ask anyone who's been partying for 2 years or more, and i'm sure that they will agree with this: The number of people who go to their first party every weekend is on the increase, as it has been for a long fucking time. And the number of people who move on with their lives and stop going to parties is also on the increase. The "general pool of who is going to raves" while although it is increasing in size, For the most part it stays constant in age and experience. There's always going to be more and more and more new heads and you can never know them all because they are always changing. It's just too big. And it's the same routine every weekend, only every party seems to be slightly more diluted, slightly less amazing, slightly less of something special... This is what is happening to the rave scene, as i bet that it has happened to every other underground culture in history. It is inevitable: commercialization is leading to the dilution of the substance of what raves are. here's a little analogy for u: The rave scene is a glass of fine scotch whiskey. Okay, just pretend you like scotch... bear w/ me. =) So you constantly add drops of water to the glass, and simultaneously removing drops with an dropper (you know, one of those things that looks like a tiny tiny mini turkey baster... you know what i'm talking about). After long enough, you are left with a glass of slightly funny tasting water. Well, maybe it's not a perfect analogy... but you get the picture... but back to all seriousness and all.. here comes the point to all this There is, however, another way. the other path... The second path, the path seems by far least traveled, and offers something completely different. There are people who have been going to, spinning at, and throwing parties for years. Not because they're getting paid. More often than not, they end up loosing money. These parties often end up being at the beach, or in a warehouse, or at someone's house, or even in someone's garage & machine shop next to the freeway. ;) I'm talking about the untarnished pure celebration of music, dance, friendship and community that is impossible to mass produce or market. You can't buy this kind of experience... but it's here for those who want it and are ready for it. Don't you see? Raves aren't about glitter and candy and fancy props and neat venues and impressive djs or any of that other bullshit. All that crap is shallow meaningless fluff - totally fucking worthless... kinda like angel food cake... REAL parties are about the PEOPLE If your raving experience isn't about your friends, and making new ones, then what the hell's the point? If you are not throwing your party because you have a blast doing it with the people that you love, then why put in all the time & effort to throw a party? A lot of fucking work and planning and time and risk go into planning parties, as all of you know, and it's not always fun. But I've found that the experience of working together to create something collectively ultimately brings the group closer together. I love raves, and I will continue to give time, energy, love, and my entire soul to that which given me so much. But I do what i do because I love this community, and I love my friends. I do not ever want to profit as a result of being a contributing member to this community. I would (personally) never accept money spin records. Now, I'm NOT saying that it is evil to get paid to spin... i am very aware that records cost a lot of money. Djing by no stretch of anyone's imagination a cheep hobby! This is just a personal choice that helps keep things clear in my head about my motivations and priorities. I consider it a sacred honor to share the music that i cherish so deeply with those who i love. This just isn't something that want to do for money. I guess I finally started to ask myself questions like "What can i do to contribute to the next party?" "These people have the right idea... How can I help them? "What can I do to make this party one step better?" "What can I bring to the community to share from myself?" I started to view the scene in a totally fresh perpective. In a world so full of greed, competition, shallow accumulation of property, and perpetual constant self gratification, all the way from the cars we drive on down to our personal hygiene products, isn't it *such* a refreshing alternative to be a part of something as sacred and spiritual as the underground rave community? We have the all precursors of a REAL revolution on our hands.... This is just the beginning. Although I never use this expression, I feel like it is appropriate here and now... To all of you whom I love so much: Peace, Love, Unity and Respect. --Adam aka John Flight --Adam aka John Flight Thank you for being so patient with me through all this. I welcome feedback. --part1_4df840ed.24636e01_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 22:29:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4061 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 22:29:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 3988 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 22:29:04 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 22:29:04 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA25015; Thu, 6 May 1999 17:27:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mon-ca8-38.ix.netcom.com(206.216.188.102) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma024973; Thu May 6 17:27:12 1999 Message-ID: <3731ACBA.6528@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 14:52:42 +0000 From: Jennifer and Daniel Herron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: unclenoah , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: If you care about raves... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Here, here!!! What a great post. I've always wondered why raves had to always be at night. Lets have more parties out in the sunshine or yes in a hall or community center in the day. It would be very refreshing. No problem with feeling tired and trying to stay up. Course I'm a supporter of art, film and performance art being included in the scene. Jennifer aka Chrysallys unclenoah wrote: > > okay this is long. > > my central argument (and i mean argument in the academic sense, i don't > mean a dispute) when discussing the Rave Scene is that it is primarily an > arts and entertainment scene with a specialized crowd of fans and > participants, and some cross-over into other more main-stream areas. i > honestly do not feel that the Rave Scene meets the academic criteria for > a 'Social Movement' or a 'Counter Culture', though those lables are > thrust upon The Scene by both outsiders and insiders. > > now, in trying to find a parallel, i've realized that the Rave Scene > shares *a lot* in common with the Independent Film Scene. in both cases > you've got independent artists and producers trying to put forth products > that are seen to carry a higher degree of artistic merit than the more > "commercialized" end of the medium. in both cases fans range from folks > who simply observe the art to those who are actively involved in the > creation, production, promotion and presentation. > > i think that the Rave Scene can actually learn a lot from the Indy Film > Scene. look, the Indy Film folks have festivals. these have been and > are held pretty much anywhere there is room to set up a screen and a > projector. but, over time the methods of showcasing the efforts of these > independent producers and artist have become a little more refined. now, > what used to be a bunch of folks getting together to spend a weekend > looking at films has turned into respected events like the Sundance Film > Festival. events like this have even become places where the cross-over > between independent production and "main-stream" or "commercial" ends. > > the Rave Scene is currently in a cycle of stagnation and self-destruction > because The Scene as a whole refuses to grow and change. all night > parties getting busted? locations getting shut down and forcing your > parties into unsavory areas? why stand for it?! why not present this as > an art scene and rent out a hall for a day (wow!)? why not lobby for > support from music shools, or university music programs? why not go for > arts grants to support the growth of The Scene and The Music? > > i think there are opportunities for the Rave Scene to step up to a new > level. there's no need for 14 year old kids ODing in dirty warehouses > anymore. there's no need for cops shooting ravers, there's no need for > people dying out in the desert. if you really care about the Rave Scene, > work to help it grow! you'd be amazed by the support you'll find out > there for legal, permitted, secure venues. not too long ago i had a > party at Planet Hollywood here in Orange County!! we blasted breakbeats > at full volume for like 6 solid hours in one of the most conservative > areas of the state and didn't get so much as a whisper of trouble from > the cops or anyone else. > > the opportunity to take the Scene to the next level is before all of us. > we can join hands and make it into something better, or we can keep > rolling around in ravefunk at dangerous venues and bitch and moan about > how great things were back in the day. > > i'm looking forward to the day when there are events in par with Sundance > for the Rave Scene. and i'll still be making music and spinning > records. :o) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or > death." - Casey Brackley > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now > info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions 714.558.7626 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 22:30:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6169 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 22:30:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 6144 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 22:30:28 -0000 Received: from kuku-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO kuku.excite.com) (198.3.99.63) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 22:30:28 -0000 Received: from zero.excite.com ([199.172.152.241]) by kuku.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990506222959.EVIQ23733.kuku@zero.excite.com> for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 15:29:59 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: I'm totally psyched... Message-Id: <926029800.28833.466@excite.com> Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 15:30:00 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk .. because I just got back from the hearing aid clinic, and they took the mold of my ears, because i'm getting the musician-type ear plugs... they'll block out sound equally across spectrums, so i can hear the music, but it won't keep making me gradually deaf.... and i'm told i'll actually be able to have regular conversations in amplified situations again too! i am so psyched ... it takes a week or so, cost $115, and i wish i'd had 'em last night at comeunity when the bass was so loud my hair was blowing! wooo-hooo!!!! (but no, trice, i didn't get the cool dayglo colors like yours, just the regular invisible skin-tone...) here's to keeping my hearing AND getting to be near the speakers!!! leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 22:43:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13624 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 22:43:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 13587 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 22:43:16 -0000 Received: from fortune-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO fortune.excite.com) (198.3.99.203) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 22:43:16 -0000 Received: from ants.excite.com ([199.172.152.146]) by fortune.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990506224248.ETDD29653.fortune@ants.excite.com> for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 15:42:48 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: one more thing.... Message-Id: <926030569.13505.260@excite.com> Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 15:42:49 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk .. oops, sorry... i was walking from the ear doctor and realized i forgot one thing i wanted to say ... to the newbies *and* the "oldbies".... and that is we should appreciate the amazingly thoughtful and perceptive people who choose to invest their time and emotion on this list.... sometimes some of the more thoughtful posters are too busy with work or whatever to contribute much.. but when they do.... today's threads talking about the meaning of raving are a case in point. we are truly lucky when the ones who see the bigger picture (no matter how long they've been raving) can speak so eloquently about their concerns, their worries, their metaphors for our scene that help us understand. every time we read posts like the ones today, and there were several that showed the clear and open thoughts of people who know and care about our scene... we are being reminded that this list is made of of some amazing folks who are in this together.... or fish who are swimmin' together, as it were... sorta renews one's wonder at it all... even when someone talks about being disheartened or getting bored or whatever, at least they're still here sharing it with us. leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 22:51:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19055 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 22:51:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 19043 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 22:51:52 -0000 Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (209.185.123.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 22:51:52 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by angelfire.com; Thu May 6 15:51:12 1999 To: "unclenoah" , sfraves@hyperreal.org, "Jennifer and Daniel Herron" Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 15:51:12 -0700 From: "Electric Joy Boy" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: on Reply-To: X-Expiredinmiddle: true X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: RE Sunshine: was, If you care about raves X-Sender-Ip: 206.66.135.218 Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 06 May 1999 14:52:42 Jennifer and Daniel Herron wrote: >Here, here!!! What a great post. I've always wondered why raves had to >always be at night. Lets have more parties out in the sunshine or yes in >a hall or community center in the day. It would be very refreshing. No >problem with feeling tired and trying to stay up. Jennifer aka Chrysallys yeah :) are there any other "morning people" out there that would prefer to actually sleep at night and party during the day? When I used to go to 'moon'tribes The party didn't start for me till sunrise! I'll see you all during the DAY in GG park this weekend. Ya dang vampires! Ben Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 22:54:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21892 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 22:54:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 21880 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 22:54:51 -0000 Received: from web308.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.225) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 22:54:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990506225711.4697.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Received: from [192.203.46.14] by web308.yahoomail.com; Thu, 06 May 1999 15:57:11 PDT Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 15:57:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Natasha Subject: (NRR) Free beer To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-846930886-926031431=:4555" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --0-846930886-926031431=:4555 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Note: forwarded message attached. --0-846930886-926031431=:4555 Content-Type: message/rfc822 X-Apparently-To: tasha_95129@yahoo.com via mdd301.yahoomail.com Received: from pallas.veritas.com (204.177.156.25) by mta118.yahoomail.com with SMTP; 6 May 1999 15:42:55 -0700 Received: from megami.veritas.com (megami.veritas.com [192.203.46.101]) by pallas.veritas.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA01509 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 15:40:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from triton.veritas.com([166.98.17.33]) (1964 bytes) by megami.veritas.com via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:smart_host/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 15:40:38 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #3 built 1999-Jan-25) Received: by triton.veritas.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 6 May 1999 15:41:13 -0700 Message-ID: <1C0A05041AC9D2119DBD00104B6C99663D51BE@kona.veritas.com> From: "Bykhovsky, Natasha" To: "'tasha_95129@yahoo.com'" Subject: FW: Free beer Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 15:37:16 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Length: 1410 > -----Original Message----- > From: Pitzen, Christina > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 1999 3:36 PM > To: Jeff; Natasha > Subject: FW: Free beer > > > Hello: > > > > We here at Miller Brewing Company, Inc. > > > would like to help bring > in > > the new millennium > > > for everyone. > > We like to think of ourselves as a > > > progressive company, keeping up > > with our customers. We have > > found the best way to do this via the Internet and email. > > > > Combining these things, we would like to > > > make a special offer to > our > > valued customers: If this email > > makes it to 2,000,000 people by 12:00 PM on New Year's Eve of 1999, we > > will send a coupon for one > > six-pack of any of our Miller Brand beverages. > > > > In the event that 2,000,000 people are reached, our tracker/counter, > > embedded in this message, will > > report to us with the list of names and email addresses. Thereafter, > each > > email address will be sent an > > electronic coupon, which you can print out and redeem > > > at any > Miller > > Brand beverage carrying store. > > > > > The coupons will be sent as soon as 2,000,000 people are , so the > > sooner, the better. > > > > Enjoy, and Cheers, > > Gary D. Anderson, Chief Marketing Director > > Miller Brewing Company, Inc. > > http://www.millerbrewing.com > > > > Jodi Pitzen > > Manufacturing > > VERITAS Software > > jodi@veritas.com > > > > --0-846930886-926031431=:4555-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 23:12:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2372 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 23:12:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 2345 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 23:12:21 -0000 Received: from www0f.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.35) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 23:12:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 17775 invoked by uid 60001); 6 May 1999 23:12:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19990506231219.17774.qmail@www0f.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.35 by www0f via web-mailer(M3.0.0.118) on Thu May 6 23:12:19 GMT 1999 Date: 6 May 99 16:12:19 PDT From: Stuart Sung To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [(NRR) Free beer] X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.118) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah, right & I have a bridge for sale..... read up: http://www.millerbrewing.com/press_releases/show_pressrelease.asp?ideanum= ber=3D26 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D There's only one success - Being able to spend your life your own way. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 23:21:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7965 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 23:21:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 7937 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 23:21:30 -0000 Received: from pop03.globecomm.net (206.253.130.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 23:21:30 -0000 Received: from tar-and-gravel ([206.25.144.218]) by pop03.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id TAA03293 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 19:21:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990506161613.00b0def0@shell4.ba.best.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 16:20:06 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: ry-N Subject: Re: (NRR) Free beer In-Reply-To: <19990506225711.4697.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OMG are people really this dumb? Im SOOOOOOOOOOO sick of these fuxxin messages ... trips to disneyland, free copies of windows 2000, money for sick children .... you cannot embed a tracker in a text email ... these are all just jokes!!!!! AHHHHHHH ry-N PS: Please forward this to as many of your friends as possible. Unlike the other emails that were just amateur pranks I have embedded a tracker in this email and as soon as it is forwarded to 50,000 people it will notify me of their email addresses. I will then send them a coupon for a free sterilization. Damn ... if only I could really do that. > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pitzen, Christina >> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 1999 3:36 PM >> To: Jeff; Natasha >> Subject: FW: Free beer >> >> > Hello: >> > >> > We here at Miller Brewing Company, Inc. > > > would like to help bring >> in >> > the new millennium > > > for everyone. >> > We like to think of ourselves as a > > > progressive company, keeping up >> > with our customers. We have >> > found the best way to do this via the Internet and email. >> > >> > Combining these things, we would like to > > > make a special offer to >> our >> > valued customers: If this email >> > makes it to 2,000,000 people by 12:00 PM on New Year's Eve of 1999, we >> > will send a coupon for one >> > six-pack of any of our Miller Brand beverages. >> > >> > In the event that 2,000,000 people are reached, our tracker/counter, >> > embedded in this message, will >> > report to us with the list of names and email addresses. Thereafter, >> each >> > email address will be sent an >> > electronic coupon, which you can print out and redeem > > > at any >> Miller >> > Brand beverage carrying store. >> > > > > The coupons will be sent as soon as 2,000,000 people are , so the >> > sooner, the better. >> > >> > Enjoy, and Cheers, >> > Gary D. Anderson, Chief Marketing Director >> > Miller Brewing Company, Inc. >> > http://www.millerbrewing.com >> > >> > Jodi Pitzen >> > Manufacturing >> > VERITAS Software >> > jodi@veritas.com >> > >> > ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 23:31:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13531 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 23:31:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 13470 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 23:31:15 -0000 Received: from sco.sco.com (132.147.128.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 23:31:15 -0000 Received: from novasco.sco.COM(132.147.178.252) via SMTP by sco.sco.COM, id smtpdAAAa005-e; Thu May 6 16:29:50 1999 Received: from lesleymo.sco.com by novasco.sco.com id aa10343; 6 May 99 16:21 PDT Message-ID: <373223D3.D1A1CDDE@sco.com> Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 16:20:51 -0700 From: Lesley Mortell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (NRR) Free beer References: <19990506225711.4697.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It seems that not everyone picked up on point 3 of Leslie Ayres excellent post ..... I did the research followed the link and within 2 seconds saw the press release entitled 'Millers Response to the current E-mail Hoax' hummmmmmm Lesley Natasha wrote: > > > Gary D. Anderson, Chief Marketing Director > > > Miller Brewing Company, Inc. > > > http://www.millerbrewing.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 23:34:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15777 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 23:34:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 15735 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 23:34:41 -0000 Received: from law-f207.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.117) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 23:34:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 1121 invoked by uid 0); 6 May 1999 23:35:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19990506233503.1120.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.236.45.61 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 06 May 1999 16:35:03 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.236.45.61] From: "Wil Hanno" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [(NRR) Free beer] Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 16:35:03 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That poses an age old question "would you rather buy really good beer or get free cheap beer?" I'm kickin it with some Guinness on that day. as far as i know Guinness is y2k compliant but miller last time i tasted it isn't even y1.999k compliant. Just IMHO peace 2 u -John From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 23:35:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16530 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 23:35:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 16232 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 23:35:12 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 23:35:12 -0000 Received: from NavySatan@aol.com (2615) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPLLa04196 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 19:30:16 -0400 (EDT) From: NavySatan@aol.com Message-ID: <699da3d3.24638008@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 19:30:16 EDT Subject: Celebrate Diversity (what "Rave" means to me) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Dear SFR, *DISCLAIMER* There's a tendency in this scene to try to mold ourselves so much after the ideals behind "raving" such a PLUR, and GOODVIBEs. While important these things are at parties, they are only as important as you make them in your everyday life. It's always a downer for me to see people pushing such attitudes at parties whether it's because they're experiencing "E" induced thoughts or perhaps just trying to be open minded because they're sharing such a "diverse" scene, and not because they feel it. I just think if you're going to go to parties and be a peaceful person who has an open mind, you had better be like that once you step outside of parties. My point is, let your actions be congruent to yourself. if your'e not open to something in the scene, or you don't necessarily wanna be huggy to someone, and/or engage in a conversation with them. THEN DON'T. In my experience, being honest and sincere has garnered me some of the most wonderful acqauintances from not only the rave scene, but the world scene in general. Some say my presence at parties is quite negative. I'm often very snide and sarcastic... when approached by someone completely enraptured in EBliss, I'm often very unresponsive and will only allow myself to be in that situation for 30 seconds. I can get away with having what some perceive to be a nasty disposition because I feel deeply and honestly I'm one of the nicest people I know. Also That my sincerity is one of the truest ways I can respect other people, and enrich them by sharing my individual spirit. Hell, I prolly have such an amazing caring for people, that I naturally protect myself from getting into trouble by using very selective social methods (to put it a little nicer). When I go to parties, I like to wear blacks, or something abrasive... make my hair look spiked or oddly twisted, and I like to act vulgar and talk nasty. II have the most fun, not being twsted to shock, but comfortably morbid... and sometimes I feel like there's no room for attitudes like mine in this scene, because we are continously forced to speak and practice that Rave Mantra called "PLUR". I just wanted to post this to let people know the importance of being mature enough to practice self PLUR,to be observant enough when to be kind and when to look a little deeper and still have it act consistent with my individual. Don't get me wrong, I believe PLUR to be a beautiful concept, but an empty one when felt forced to practice it one to attach yourself to your surroundings. In my experience there are numerous people that I see who act like that (starts in O ends in Ra), and just one person like that is one too many. Empty thoughts and empty feelings are the skeleton behind what so many of you have expressed as being the downfall of our scene. On the other hand, i think it's so refreshing that I've also been able to find sooo many people who do practice self PLUR and have accepted me and how I can be at times. The Rave Scene is on the other hand one of the more open scenes, and possibly one of the places I'm more likely to find acceptance of my attitudes. Now that everything has been said *WARNING* the above was ahuge disclaimer What "Rave" means to me ELABORATE CELEBRATION OF ONESELF get glamorous with glitter and flash when you feel happy... feeling talkative? meet 200 people... dance hard when you feel bold... shock when you feel like you need some attention... anything and everything goes... and if it's extreme, it usually works (except Rob Rave's hat)... that's what raving means to me You've got one opportunity to relive your own private studio 54 in yrou head, get fabulous, do something extreme, get involved in youthful scandal while you still can... and pick up some people on the way. The thing I value most about our scene though is the ability to expose so many people who are trying to be so open about everything to my darkside, and thus accomplishing two things... possibly catalyzing them to be more in touch with their darkside (if even just slightly) and thus being healthier mentally... and also feeling complete and as if my story was fully told. I don't know if it means anything but... I urge everyone to find as much love for the same scene by CELEBRATING DIVERSITY by lovign yourself NastyAssedNavySatan From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 23:38:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20336 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 23:38:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 20314 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 23:38:47 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 23:38:47 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA14700; Thu, 6 May 1999 18:38:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca41-38.ix.netcom.com(209.110.234.38) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma014486; Thu May 6 18:36:44 1999 Message-ID: <3732274F.D7DBE9E0@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 16:35:43 -0700 From: Ray Vonie Organization: Feel Good Entertainment X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick Seaton CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: If you care about raves... References: <19990506200409.29805.rocketmail@web105.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Patrick Seaton wrote: > We are like fish. There is a "main stream" in which we all came from > and the "under ground" stream that emerge along side of this main > stream. Some fish started out in this new stream as soon as it started > its flow. This flow for the most part parallels the main stream. > Because of this, it is easy for other fish to make there way to it from > the main stream. Some of these fish can adapt to the new stream and > other can't and then return to the main stream. Then there are others > that don't want to adapt nor return, these ones bring with them that > which they need from the main stream. With all this migration between > the two streams, the banks separating them are becoming worn and > breaking away. Before long the banks will be gone and the new stream > will become part of the main stream. With this those fish that don't > want to be in the main stream will stay along the far banks searching > for tributaries and new streams emerging from the ground. And so this > is life. Pat, This is an incredibly accurate analogy... I love it. There are 'Natural' Curves to all forms of evolution. Raving is evolving along it's own natural curve as well. Evolution is the most basic form of Natural activity on this planet. It's all about natural selection... the more Value something can add to our society, the quicker it will be assimilated into the global culture. I can't exactly remember when I heard someone complaining about what a bummer it was that we evolved from Apes into Humans.... but yet people in this scene are so critical about the raving subculture evolving past it's underground roots. I feel that the expansion of our culture is an incredible testament towards anything that can flourish against such adversity, and overcome as many obstacles as raving has, and become as large as it is on a global level.... and I am very proud to be a part of this culture, not in spite of it's success.... but because of it! Keep it Mellow, Vlad From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 23:41:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21666 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 23:41:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 21595 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 23:41:00 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 23:41:00 -0000 Received: from HppyXTC@aol.com (15552) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vBENa06446 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 19:37:50 -0400 (EDT) From: HppyXTC@aol.com Message-ID: <53b4f484.246381d0@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 19:37:52 EDT Subject: Spread the Word? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Vorg Vorg Vorg...thats all I hear... Anyone going to Spread the Word? I'll see you there! :) Love, Heather From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 23:53:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28343 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 23:53:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 28333 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 23:53:37 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 23:53:37 -0000 Received: from Squisheart@aol.com (89) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id tUOLa13995; Thu, 6 May 1999 19:49:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Squisheart@aol.com Message-ID: <5b9a2b00.2463848d@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 19:49:33 EDT Subject: Re: raver handbook..=0p To: akp2@duke.edu, californiadiver@juno.com CC: unclenoa@netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hello..i was wonderin if anyone knows where i can get my paws on those little glo in the dark sticks...for the mouth..i live in the south bay..if anyone knows where i can get it either in the south..north or east bay let me know..thanks everyone.. ~k8 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 23:58:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2078 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 23:58:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 1874 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 23:58:14 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 23:58:14 -0000 Received: from Squisheart@aol.com (89) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id gQKRa06461; Thu, 6 May 1999 19:55:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Squisheart@aol.com Message-ID: <4e546203.246385f2@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 19:55:30 EDT Subject: lil glow in tha dark sticks foe tha mouth To: doom@kzsu.stanford.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hello..i was wonderin if anyone knows where i can get my paws on those little glo in the dark sticks...for the mouth..i live in the south bay..if anyone knows where i can get it either in the south..north or east bay let me know..thanks everyone.. ~k8 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 06 23:59:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4026 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 23:59:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 3744 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 23:59:04 -0000 Received: from wya-oe8.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 23:59:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 9732 invoked by uid 0); 7 May 1999 00:00:57 -0000 Message-ID: <19990507000057.9731.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 153.37.197.117 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 06 May 1999 17:00:57 PDT X-Originating-IP: [153.37.197.117] From: "dj _haK" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: 5.30.99 junglist in the south bay!!! Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 17:00:57 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk from 2.pm till 2.am @ ecco. five rooms of sound, but here is the jungle room line up. more info to come. symplex siphon honey b sifu R.A.W. siren sage ufo hak this happens only once in a millenium. come check it out! hak ps. colour flyers out this weekend From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 00:05:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7297 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 00:05:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 7283 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 00:05:12 -0000 Received: from corpmail1.jps.net (209.63.224.250) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 00:05:12 -0000 Received: from kickass (209-239-194-51.oak.jps.net [209.239.194.51]) by corpmail1.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA21396; Thu, 6 May 1999 17:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <014f01be981d$a0900860$77019665@cuhelp.com> From: "Jay" To: , , Cc: , References: <5b9a2b00.2463848d@aol.com> Subject: NRR: Glow-sticks (was Raver Handbook) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 17:07:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I get all of my glowsticks from Ken at pureacidmixtapes (www.pureacidmixtapes.com) He is super nice, good stuff... and he will send you a butt load of flyers =). Not only that, its cool to know that you are putting some cash in the pockets of a scene goer (someone who makes a living from our beloved scene... a la recent post). Love & Music, -Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Cc: ; Sent: Thursday, May 06, 1999 4:49 PM Subject: Re: raver handbook..=0p > hello..i was wonderin if anyone knows where i can get my paws on those little > glo in the dark sticks...for the mouth..i live in the south bay..if anyone > knows where i can get it either in the south..north or east bay let me > know..thanks everyone.. > ~k8 > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 00:14:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12155 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 00:14:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 12145 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 00:14:14 -0000 Received: from www.concourse.net (HELO mail.concourse.net) (209.63.66.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 00:14:14 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (209.63.66.105) by mail.concourse.net with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Thu, 6 May 1999 16:18:30 -0800 Message-ID: <37322FC8.51568BBE@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 17:11:52 -0700 From: Paul Sober X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SF Raves Subject: Re: newbies on sfraves will learn.... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk have you ever danced barefoot all night under a full moon? i totally recommend it. paul boing wrote: > On Thu, 6 May 1999 leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > > > 7. get the dancing more, will you folks? some of you guys need to move > > your feet, shake your booties, get your heart pounding with some bass... > > whatever the music is that makes you move... you'll feel better if you > > dance! less email, more music, that's what i say! (p.s. comeunity was good > > again last night!) > > > > anyone ever danced off that your shoe sole fell off? > > ever since then i make sure i wear well bonded, not too worn-out shoes... > > b- > > ____ > Confucious says: > "Don't be such a geek - take a shower once in a while." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 00:34:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20568 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 00:34:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 20556 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 00:34:23 -0000 Received: from ns.ultimanet.com (HELO iceberg.ultimanet.com) (205.179.129.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 00:34:23 -0000 Received: from [205.179.129.9] (sprout.ultimanet.com [205.179.129.9]) by iceberg.ultimanet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00194; Thu, 6 May 1999 17:40:09 -0700 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990506170241.78078.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 16:36:38 -0700 To: "Macadio G." From: terry estioko Subject: Re: (NRR) Paging Terry Estioko Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Hey Terry could you email me back once you get this I have a question I need >to ask of you. > >Thanks, >Macadio My cell numero is : 408.859.5339. I'm leaving for SD fri morning but you can pick stuff up through Paula while I'm gone. -terry ------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@viberation.com http://www.viberation.com/terry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 00:45:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25358 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 00:45:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 25245 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 00:44:32 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 00:44:32 -0000 Received: from Oct1faith@aol.com (530) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 7EXHa04815; Thu, 6 May 1999 20:36:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Oct1faith@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 20:35:41 EDT Subject: Re: regarding gay ravers!!! To: goodvibe@geocities.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Rachelle got the great "paul E wog " mad WOW that one for the record books. Blackstone PS I like the way paul twist thing. "Open your mind an your ass will follow"....G. Clinton From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 00:56:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 573 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 00:56:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 564 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 00:55:58 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 00:55:58 -0000 Received: from [209.75.52.222] (AM5-68-52-222.ixpres.com [209.75.52.222]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA23512; Thu, 6 May 1999 17:56:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3732274F.D7DBE9E0@ix.netcom.com> References: <19990506200409.29805.rocketmail@web105.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 17:05:12 -0800 To: Ray Vonie , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: Re: If you care about raves... Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >I feel that the expansion of our culture is an incredible testament towards >anything that can flourish against such adversity, and overcome as many >obstacles as raving has, and become as large as it is on a global level.... >and I am very proud to be a part of this culture, not in spite of it's >success.... but because of it! > VLAD, you are right on baby. doesn't it amaze you all that the global village is indeed something that is in the making, if not already here. aren't u happy that u could travel to england or brazil or goa and meet people consumed by the same passions you are? It makes me ecstatic to know that i've got fellow kindred out there in the world--and all because this phenomenon known as the rave has emerged & flourished. much luv & gruve, madhvi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 01:03:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6371 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 01:03:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 6353 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 01:03:54 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 01:03:54 -0000 Received: from [209.75.52.222] (AM5-68-52-222.ixpres.com [209.75.52.222]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA24811 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 18:04:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 17:08:09 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: of course it's me!! Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk TERRY ESTIOKO! of course it's me--how many raving madhvi's are there in this world??? HEEEYYY BOY!! it's is GOOD to see you (in the e-world anyways!) tell me how u've been and we'll xchange personal dramas! luv & gruve, madhvi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 01:11:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9840 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 01:11:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 9832 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 01:11:19 -0000 Received: from ns.ultimanet.com (HELO iceberg.ultimanet.com) (205.179.129.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 01:11:19 -0000 Received: from [205.179.129.9] (sprout.ultimanet.com [205.179.129.9]) by iceberg.ultimanet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00316; Thu, 6 May 1999 18:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990506133223.006c1190@mail.ixpres.com> References: <19990506200409.29805.rocketmail@web105.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 17:13:32 -0700 To: Madhvi Dalal From: terry estioko Subject: Re: If you care about raves... Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thanks everyone for participating in this thread. I feel it is important for all of us to articulate our thoughts and views on "raves" in this public forum we call SFRaves. I'm sure many old-skoolers hold strong views on this now "pop-culture phenomenon". And newbies offer a fresh and innocent perspective that so many of us lose sight of. I also know that there are a ton of really, really, smart people/lurkers on this list...and I'm sure many of us would benefit from what you have to say. In short, let's keep up this discussion. And maybe us SFRavers can get more out of this list than idle chatter and shameless promotion. I got a lot to say on this topic, but I'm off to San Diego for a couple days. Hopefully this thread will continue for a while. Hey Madhvi...leave your number on my voicemail 408.881.0898 and we'll hook up for a drink, like old times, eh? -terry ------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@viberation.com http://www.viberation.com/terry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 01:12:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10660 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 01:12:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 10651 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 01:12:18 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 01:12:18 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com (8022) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vGNZa17021 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 21:03:53 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <76331462.246395f8@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 21:03:52 EDT Subject: Drug Awarness!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok kids, so i said i wasn't gonna be able to organize this, but looks like i am anyways. I've talked with some of you, and contacted you, but it would be really great if anyone with any helpful information, anyone willing to help out on any level, or whatever would contact me personally at either this email address or at RavePrnces@go.com i'm on the digest so responses to the list won't likely read soon, and i might miss you altogether! i am trying to find those who are seriously interested and feel like they might have something to offer in all of this. So please get back to me soon! So when i hear from you, i will give you more info as it comes, and a little more in depth description of what i personally would like to see happen and we can discuss other ideas as well!! thankx!! love and hugs and kisses, tina From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 01:28:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15982 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 01:28:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 15964 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 01:28:02 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 01:28:02 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com (3706) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vTMZa13121 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 21:19:14 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 21:19:13 EDT Subject: Re: NRR Muni Muni Muni....{stories} To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I dont take buses but i do BART every once in a while so i gots a story from there... I was comin back from oaklnad with my friends and there was this old homeless man with his bike and stuff standing there in the aisle. there werent any seats left so i was standing next to him. halfway through the trip i was looking out the window at the pretty lights zoomin through the tunnel when i felt this tug on one of my necklaces. I looked over and the old guy was examining my necklace ^_^ "thats pretty nice there kid" "uh....thanks" i said kinda leanin back a little. "you make these yourself?" ""uh yeah." i smiled and he smiled back showing me his gaps.I looked away for a little bit and then he told me he was a pot head. i looked over again and he had this pot on his head. and was just looking back really normal like through his sunglasses. I was having a bad day until this and i guess he could tell cause he made me smile. so i gave him the necklace he was looking at. "gee tahnks kid!" i later bought a book of his poetry from him entitled "shopping cart people unite!!!" it was filled with little kids stories and poems he had written. pretty cool shtuff *(o';'o)* OKIe!!!! so anyone with cool stories about muni or bart or funny rave stories POST EM NOW!! we need a laugh over here in pleasant hill!!!!! and im making an Ezine too so i might post some really funny stories (with permission of course) on it! -aaron (orion) p.s. please? funny funny? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 01:41:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23402 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 01:41:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 23390 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 01:41:13 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 01:41:13 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (14436) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vDUDa13120 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 21:36:08 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 21:36:07 EDT Subject: Re: If you care about raves... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Is it just me or has SFR actually been getting deep lately? Lots of emotional and well thought out threads as of late. Peace, M Groove On From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 02:34:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16944 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 02:34:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 16936 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 02:34:45 -0000 Received: from law-f164.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.227) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 02:34:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 51026 invoked by uid 0); 7 May 1999 02:34:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990507023451.51025.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.209.82 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 06 May 1999 19:34:50 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.209.82] From: "K Gray" To: SFraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Fwd: If you care about raves... Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 19:34:50 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That was a beautiful, thoughtful post, Adam. You can also extend that analogy to anything you do - any career, any hobby, any relationship. If it isn't fun, if you aren't inspired, if you don't love what you do - why bother? There is always something else to try which may spark your fire. The components of this scene are not for everyone. If someone tries it for awhile and decides it is not for them, then let them go with love and with peace. Or we will never get tickets to the 2010 Underworld reunion tour. Born Slippy, K From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 02:39:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18622 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 02:39:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 18609 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 02:39:10 -0000 Received: from law-f71.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.134) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 02:39:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 1211 invoked by uid 0); 7 May 1999 02:38:43 -0000 Message-ID: <19990507023843.1210.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.209.82 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 06 May 1999 19:38:42 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.209.82] From: "K Gray" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, whtrabt@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: RE Sunshine: was, If you care about raves Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 19:38:42 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >yeah :) are there any other "morning people" out there that would >prefer >to actually sleep at night and party during the day? When I >used to go to >'moon'tribes The party didn't start for me till >sunrise! "It's all about the morning outfit" - JulianMOD Some guy from Reno who was at ComeUnity last night agreed, "All my best party memories are of sunrises. The reason we keep going to outdoor parties is for the sunrise." See you in the park, K From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 02:39:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20247 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 02:39:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 20085 invoked by uid 233); 7 May 1999 02:39:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 14505 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 22:44:54 -0000 Received: from law-f107.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.170) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 22:44:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 9343 invoked by uid 0); 6 May 1999 22:44:27 -0000 Message-ID: <19990506224427.9342.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.77.82.112 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 06 May 1999 15:44:27 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.77.82.112] From: "michael waldren" To: BigM009@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Metropolis Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 15:44:27 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk For real. I am so sick of this clown, it is disguting. This list is about obtaining info on raves. Where they are, who is gonna be there, how much they cost, etc., etc. The only thing that Paul E Wog brings to the table is a string of absurd posts on how Gay people eat mexicans. If i knew your clown ass i would probably kick the shit out of it. Unfortunately i must sit back and watch you degrade everyone in sight. What you dont realize is that the entire list, all of us are all potential friends. 90% of us are now your enemy and if i ever do find out who you are i will not be afraid to punk your poser ass. Junglist Mikey >From: BigM009@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: Metropolis >Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 13:45:10 EDT > >In a message dated 5/6/1999 10:26:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >WizardCCCA@aol.com writes: > ><< Gee... SOOO sorry for asking STUPID questions... if you had read some of >the > former posts, I am NEW to the LIST! Sheesh... I feel the love. But thanks >to > some NICE people on the list, they sent me the line up and where it is >and > all the info I needed that actually wasn't on the CALENDAR that I >happened >to > check out a few weeks ago. > > Thank you SO much for your KINDNESS, > Liz >> > >Another victim to Paul*E*Wog. Paul, should I start keeping track? Well >maybe I shouldnt. It would take up all my time. hahaha Peace, M > >Groove On From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 02:51:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26549 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 02:51:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 26536 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 02:51:44 -0000 Received: from south-station-annex.mit.edu (HELO MIT.EDU) (18.72.1.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 02:51:44 -0000 Received: from GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA09766; Thu, 6 May 99 22:51:32 EDT Received: from melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.69.0.45]) by grand-central-station.MIT.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA17044; Thu, 6 May 1999 22:51:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from benchun (BENCHUN.MIT.EDU [18.207.0.48]) by melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id WAA13838; Thu, 6 May 1999 22:51:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990506225048.00ce4680@po8.mit.edu> X-Sender: benchun@po8.mit.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 22:51:09 -0400 To: Paul Sober , SF Raves From: b e n c h u n Subject: Re: newbies on sfraves will learn.... In-Reply-To: <37322FC8.51568BBE@geocities.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk "have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight?" At 08:11 PM 5/6/99 , Paul Sober wrote: >have you ever danced barefoot all night under a full moon? i totally recommend >it. > >paul . . . . . . . benchun@mit.edu http://mdma.mit.edu/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 02:52:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27347 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 02:52:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 27308 invoked by uid 233); 7 May 1999 02:52:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 14076 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 01:19:25 -0000 Received: from ns.ultimanet.com (HELO iceberg.ultimanet.com) (205.179.129.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 01:19:25 -0000 Received: from [205.179.129.9] (sprout.ultimanet.com [205.179.129.9]) by iceberg.ultimanet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00340 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 18:25:10 -0700 X-Sender: terry@mail.viberation.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 17:21:39 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: terry estioko Subject: sorry about that Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I didn't mean for those private posts to go through to the list. I'm allowed to screw up once in a while, right? a thousand humble apologies. -terry ------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@viberation.com http://www.viberation.com/terry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 03:18:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11760 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 03:18:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 11752 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 03:18:21 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 03:18:21 -0000 Received: from GoscarArch@aol.com (353) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLYCa04814 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 23:08:09 -0400 (EDT) From: GoscarArch@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 23:08:10 EDT Subject: DC rave scene drama To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello all you San Francisco Ravers!!! I hope you are all having fun. I will soon be living in Berkeley (may 27'th i'm moving flying out and living in one of the co-op houses around berkeley campus) and can't wait to meet a lot of you and dance and all that... :) Anyways, I'm procrastinating studying for finals and thought some of you might be interested in our little drama here in washington DC. anyway, our most popular weekly rave, buzz, is at a club called Nation (formerly the capital ballroom, they just did tons of renovations, got a new sound system, put in a new floor, a balcony...) scott henry spins here almost every week, and this friday paul oakenfold was supposed to spin... last night there was a fox news special about buzz. apparently the fox news lady came in four weeks in a row with a hidden camera. she taped people giving massages, doing the vicks thing, cracking their backs, making out...she said that she was offered lots of different drugs, that she saw people doing lots of drugs... and there are some police officers there that don't really do anything, just stand by the bathrooms and guard the exits... she taped one of the cops kissing some girl and then making out with her in his cop car later... and they showed how the cops don't do anything even though they know rampant drug use is happening right there. ... and today they decided to cancel buzz, i don't know for how long, but everyone is really upset about it. i think something similar happened at fever in baltimore a few years ago, there was a 20/20 special then resulted in it shutting down. for us DC kids, (even though lots of ravers don't like buzz that much anymore cause its been way too crowded with new people cause of its reopening, more club people, sorority girls...) this is one of the few places we have to dance to good music party... hopefully they will somehow re-open, but nobody knows when. well, sorry to bore you if you're not interested in this little story, but i thought some of you might be. as i said before i'll be moving to berkeley the end of this month, and i'd love to hear more about the scene over there... have a good weekend everyone peace greg :) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 03:38:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20139 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 03:38:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 20131 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 03:38:52 -0000 Received: from wya-oe1.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 03:38:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 36955 invoked by uid 0); 7 May 1999 03:41:11 -0000 Message-ID: <19990507034111.36954.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 153.37.197.240 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 06 May 1999 20:41:10 PDT X-Originating-IP: [153.37.197.240] From: "dj _haK" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: BSP: synthetic! south bay rave madness Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 20:41:10 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk SYNTHETIC! mondays starting june 7th residents: jungle: hak, symplex, siphon, hannibal selecta techno: chris jackson, andy w, mattski trance: keith edwards, skyscraper, odeci guests: june 7th jungle: gamekat (xlr8r) techno: jon williams (organized noise) trance: mystre (f-8), dyloot (skillz, f-8) june 14th jungle: rinse (bass cru, compound) techno: kit clayton trance: thomas trouble (t&j factory) 21+, located @ ecco, 3$ b4 10.pm, 5$ after. every week expect guest from all over the bay and kali, droppin essential rave choons and uplifting beats and deadly sub-bass. more info on the full colour flyer comming soon....... hak From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 03:41:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21135 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 03:41:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 21126 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 03:41:09 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 03:41:09 -0000 Received: from PHUNKN3@aol.com (8016) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vBBUa20661 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 23:36:41 -0400 (EDT) From: PHUNKN3@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 23:36:38 EDT Subject: BSP: NOEL from PHUNCKATECK on X-RADIO.COM tommorow, (5/7) from 12noon-4pm. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 56 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Check it out, Don't forget, PHUNCKTION is every tues. @ THE TOP. w/ residents: myself, JUJU and the ever-nutty MC DUH, on the mic. * info: 415.789.8000 x 1147 Out like a scout on a new route, Noel PHUNCKATECK COMMUNICATIONS http://www.sfdb.com "How can we be down with the rave scene here in the bay area... promoters over look us for some reason" -me, thinking to myself, in an open quote to promoters- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 03:54:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26564 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 03:54:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 26555 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 03:54:37 -0000 Received: from web105.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 03:54:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990507034628.11572.rocketmail@web105.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.34.184.2] by web105.yahoomail.com; Thu, 06 May 1999 20:46:28 PDT Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 20:46:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: 5.30.99 junglist in the south bay!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What is the address of ecco? I've been by it before but I was lost at the time and wasn't too concern as to where I was as much as where I wanted to be. *HUGZ* pat From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 03:58:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29294 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 03:58:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 29279 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 03:58:17 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 03:58:17 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (7817) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2ELa016142; Thu, 6 May 1999 18:00:34 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 18:00:33 EDT Subject: Re: regarding gay ravers!!! To: pEEEkagirl@webtv.net CC: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk AHahah thanx! you gave me a good laugh. Maybe when people sign on to the list there should be a disclaimer against PaulEWog's posts in the intro letter. RIght after the section about nettiquette and flame wars. I personally have seen Paul throwing himself at boys and would not take offense at him talking about gay people. He just likes to get a reaction out of people... for example.. by me writing this letter I am probably going to get a post back in a little bit from him with some demeaning message. But not everyone loves paul the way I do. OK! hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 04:26:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15114 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 04:26:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 15103 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 04:26:09 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 04:26:09 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (540) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3PKSa24056 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 00:25:13 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <990871e1.2463c528@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 00:25:12 EDT Subject: Re: newbies on sfraves will learn.... To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/6/99 7:51:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, benchun@MIT.EDU writes: << >have you ever danced barefoot all night under a full moon? i totally recommend >it. > >paul >> I did.. it was at Epiphany.. my feet swelled up and got rubbed raw from the sand. I couldn't walk for two days. IT WAS SO FRIGGIN GREAT! =) hugs, trice From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 04:28:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16196 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 04:28:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 16185 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 04:28:27 -0000 Received: from f280.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.171) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 04:28:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 82357 invoked by uid 0); 7 May 1999 04:27:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19990507042759.82356.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 163.181.251.1 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 06 May 1999 21:27:59 PDT X-Originating-IP: [163.181.251.1] From: "E A R T H _" To: GoscarArch@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: DC rave scene drama Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 21:27:59 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk sorry to hear that greg i won't go into the media chat about what happened at buzz but you're welcome here, always. welcome. the love awaits you. peace, tee From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 04:45:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22360 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 04:45:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 22333 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 04:45:34 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 04:45:34 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (540) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3QJVa24056 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 00:44:24 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 00:43:45 EDT Subject: What raving means (on the navysatan tip) To: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I was really glad to hear Eric speak out about this. I personally love this guy, for his biting humor and everything else. It's true that there are a lot of fake people out there, many who feel they are obligated to be so because of PLUR and whatnot. HOw many times has a friend that doesn't rave ask you, "I wouldn't fit in, would I?" about going to a party? For me it's been countless... and to some extent it's kind of true. THere is a sort of raver code, but I find that the people that are honest are the ones I end up caring about the most. (You know who you are) Maybe you get shunned for not putting up a happy, loved up front, but that's not who you really are. I think what scares me most about new people coming in and taking over the scene is that they just don't get it. For me it was always about being happy, at a party or anywhere else... I'm constantly full of energy and love and I don't think that's fake at all. It's who I am.. I don't need to take any pill EVER to want to just GIVE as much as I can to the people I see that make me happy. The new kids in the corner having a blast and the person walking down the street that maybe needs a smile. What worries me is the people that for years laughed at what I was doing and the scene and told me how stupid I was are now coming to parties and taking E and all of a sudden they're my best friend. THey "GET IT". But I really think they don't. Somewhere you develop a passion for what you're doing otherwise you wouldn't still be here. There's so much more to life than partying, but life is a blast with it. What you realize eventually is that you can't constantly be happy. What ERic is saying about not wanting to talk to kids on drugs is understandable. sometimes you're in a bad mood, and that's ok.. there's no law that says you have to be nice to everyone. Grr.. this is about the time I loose my point, reread the letter and realize I've been rambling..... WEll.. maybe I don't know what I'm trying to say. I've been called a fake person before and I think that hurts more than anything anyone has ever said to me. Raving shouldn't be about people just being nice to everyone, but it shouldn't be about being a bitch either. What you should do is know who you are and stay true to that no matter what. Even if it means you're not doing what other people think you should be to be fitting in. Especially in the scene. Maybe not everyone is as naturally high on life as me, but at least stay real. People will respect you more for it in the long run. I think it would really make me unconfortable if someone didn't like me and was like, "OH hi, sweetie, I love you you look great," just because they felt obligated. I have points, I have lot to say, but thoughts aren't forming really well right now and I'm going to bed. hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva "Oh, not now, My face is much too dry to socialize!" (flops head on pillow) --navysatan "Raving is not a way of life, life is a way of raving." --lara z. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 04:50:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24435 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 04:50:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 24425 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 04:50:24 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 04:50:24 -0000 Received: from PlurDealer@aol.com (14408) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJXVa04813 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 00:49:44 -0400 (EDT) From: PlurDealer@aol.com Message-ID: <469ab34c.2463cae9@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 00:49:45 EDT Subject: Re: DC rave scene drama To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hiya Greg, Welcome to the list. I have a few friends out in DC and they called me up last night and they were PISSED about this whole buzz "expose" deal. I don't know whether they're going to go ahead with this or not but they were talking about throwing a party,having a huge protest in front of the Fox (think it was 5) office. I already know they must've completely filled up Fox's voice mail and e-mailed em god knows how many times. According to them (I'm trying to sound arbitrary because I haven't seen the video but have heard LOTS about it) it was supposed to be on raves but Buzz is apparantly just a club, last week they saw some white powder on a table, one of them tasted it it was flour, their conclusion was the FOX reporter planted it there. Anyway that was just my contribution :) Peace, The PlurDealer From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 06:06:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25050 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 06:06:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 25041 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 06:06:45 -0000 Received: from f136.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 06:06:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 73235 invoked by uid 0); 7 May 1999 06:04:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990507060437.73234.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.188.198.176 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 06 May 1999 23:04:37 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.188.198.176] From: "Rani Skye Lefevre" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: paging Gerlando Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 23:04:37 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey you! hotmail isn't letting me e-mail you directly...i guess i'll try from my aol account. i hope everything is going well! write me! love, rani :-} From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 06:14:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 688 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 06:14:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 584 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 06:14:13 -0000 Received: from colo01-031.xoom.com (HELO www1.xoommail.com) (206.132.179.31) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 06:14:13 -0000 Received: (from service@localhost) by www1.xoommail.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA25193; Thu, 6 May 1999 23:14:12 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 23:14:12 -0700 Message-Id: <199905070614.XAA25193@www1.xoommail.com> X-Loop: xoommail.com From: Matt Subject: Too Many Way Too Opinionated People...Embrace the Differences To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah, The ones that go on and on spouting out their opinions about everything for everyone to hear. The ignorant people saying this and that without any true knowledge on subjects they like to think they know everything about. The ones who try to act like they're "cool" but just end up showing how ignorant they really are. Then you have others who just like to bash everyone for no apparant reason, giggles? You make one wrong move and how people view you is twisted into something spiteful. Heh, I'm just a little mad when people think I'm less than them because I have the guts to wear things they'd never dare to wear. Since I can remember, even in the history books, the differences in people have been the things that have kept them seperate. The things that are scrutinized, criticized, looked down upon... If you want to be creative, you have to be ready for the onslought of negativity. I've heard lots of people, teachers, people on tv, and so forth saying "differences are good..." but then I see these same people looking down upon the different people. The thing I can't stand the most? All these fake people that like to hide behind the iron gates and laugh at everyone else who has the gift to be able to express their creativity and to not go by the standards of the norm just because "that's what is." I guess I'm just rambling, but I think I did get some points across...I think in our culture that every little thing in our lives is gone over and over and over, criticized until it no longer warrants any merit. You see it everyday, "Bill Clinton cheats on his wife," and "So and so is undergoing drug rehab for cocaine." Everywhere you go, there's a media telling you what's right, what's wrong. How to look, how to dress, how to be. Then you see these people around and quite a few of them like to harass the others who don't go by the norm. I haven't been raving for a long time. I've only been a candy kid for about 5 months or so, but I've never worn it just to wear it. Most of it, I've been given, and to me these gifts are the best tokens of appreciation I've ever recieved. Each piece has it's own story, it's own meaning. Now, I still get people who look @ me weird when I wear a blow up backpack or some candy, but I stand my ground. I know there are lots of ignorant people out there and I feel bad for them that all their lives they've spent their time following the messages and words that are not their own. Of course, I've lost my point. Basically, unless it's something "mainstream" it's mocked. It's a pity that there are so many people out there intent on demeaning each other's differences instead of embracing them. Anyhow, take care guys... *hugs* Matthew Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occassion at http://greetings.xoom.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 06:56:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19340 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 06:56:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 19297 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 06:56:11 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 06:56:11 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (BayArea56k506.NetWiz.Net [208.164.208.106]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA02844; Thu, 6 May 1999 23:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905070656.XAA02844@mail.netwiz.net> To: "San FranDisco Ravers List" , groovi-music@netwiz.net Subject: yay, Suzuki music instruments is now online!! Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 23:56:40 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk http://suzukimusic.com/Pages/TOC.html you know, hidden in here are a few gems: -------------------- home of the ominous omnichord, which i'm going to buy RSN, as soon as they release the next version, which is supposed to be super-trick! http://suzukimusic.com/Pages/Omnichord.html -------------------- here's something that would be cool to have for each member of an "electronic drum circle". you can all be toodling along playing together as a group w/ headphones, and if someone is too wigged to actually be playing an instrument, then you can just turn them down ... (or converse w/ one or more people in the circle individually using the supplied headset/mics). http://suzukimusic.com/Pages/PianoLab.html -------------------- and of course, no party would be complete without one of these MIDI Bigfoot Keyboard hooked up to a sampler and some semi-random-seeming ways for the audience/participants to switch sound-banks on the sampler. http://suzukimusic.com/Pages/Bigfoot.html -------------------- And, must have for every post-somethingorother neofuturist retrohippie on the summer outdoor party set, there's always http://suzukimusic.com/Pages/WWRhythm.html .... be a hit at the next party and look absolutely ravishing while keeping a groovybeat on your agogo. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 07:43:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4258 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 07:43:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 4250 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 07:43:07 -0000 Received: from law-f136.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.199) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 07:43:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 57956 invoked by uid 0); 7 May 1999 07:42:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19990507074240.57955.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.155.176.167 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 07 May 1999 00:42:40 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.155.176.167] From: "ro ro" To: doom@kzsu.Stanford.EDU, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: A call for drums Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 07:42:40 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I used to be a tahitian drummer. I still have my drum, but I haven't banged on it in over a year. It would be cool to blend my drum in with modern drums, etc... Rommel danglingfury@hotmail.com AOLIM: DaSaucey1 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 07:48:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6217 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 07:48:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 6207 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 07:48:34 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 07:48:34 -0000 Received: from WOO1121@aol.com (3699) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vXNTa16141 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 03:48:04 -0400 (EDT) From: WOO1121@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 03:48:04 EDT Subject: Re: Metropolis To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/6/99 7:40:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, chocolate976@hotmail.com writes: << 90% of us are now your enemy and if i ever do find out who you are i will not be afraid to punk your poser ass. >> Ya Paul make that 99% i'll punk you too hahahahahaha Mikey can you please calm down Sheeesh! talk about hostility. Love you Paul even if you post that i am a man *Amanda Kung Pow From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 08:43:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24647 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 08:43:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 24639 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 08:43:09 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 08:43:09 -0000 Received: from SpinDazE@aol.com (7813) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vFQKa03059; Fri, 7 May 1999 04:42:25 -0400 (EDT) From: SpinDazE@aol.com Message-ID: <8dc42c28.24640170@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 04:42:24 EDT Subject: Re: Celebrate Diversity (what "Rave" means to me) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org CC: NavySatan@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Celebrate diversity . . . Use PLUR right. Choose if u want to listen or follow it. Plur is an overused and abused expression. as well as so misunderstood, these 4 concepts are unclear or undefinable by certain people First of all don't use this expression (I.E.: "hey man! Love the PLUR)! Show It. Within yourself and to others. Especially I hope most of you have realized the concept of PLUR is not meant for party kids, but directed towards all people. You should have known the essentiality of the elements of Plur as soon as u were able to create your own ideas, not the first time you heard it at a rave, and decided to act upon it. But props to those who do or believe any part of it. Plur has been misused to the point people don't relate it with components of their lives or in society, but only to being high on some substance at some dank warehouse surrounded by strangers. Its for those u know and don't. For the environment. For society. It doesn't even need to be known as PLUR. There are many subcategories and extensions to it. Learn them and explore them, but only if u want to And now . . . Back to Diversity (what makes us, Us) It is only those of us who are courageous enough to question all prejudice that we can truly embrace diversity, and it is only then that each of us is free to celebrate our own individuality and uniqueness. Love is life and life is living. We are all special. Lets just kiss and say goodbye :*:*angel*:*: the sad one. In a message dated 5/6/99 4:35:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, NavyasseSatan@AOL.COM writes: << Dear SFR, *DISCLAIMER* There's a tendency in this scene to try to mold ourselves so much after the ideals behind "raving" such a PLUR, and GOODVIBEs. While important these things are at parties, they are only as important as you make them in your everyday life. It's always a downer for me to see people pushing such attitudes at parties whether it's because they're experiencing "E" induced thoughts or perhaps just trying to be open minded because they're sharing such a "diverse" scene, and not because they feel it. I just think if you're going to go to parties and be a peaceful person who has an open mind, you had better be like that once you step outside of parties. My point is, let your actions be congruent to yourself. if your'e not open to something in the scene, or you don't necessarily wanna be huggy to someone, and/or engage in a conversation with them. THEN DON'T. In my experience, being honest and sincere has garnered me some of the most wonderful acqauintances from not only the rave scene, but the world scene in general. >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 12:15:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12597 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 12:15:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 12580 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 12:15:52 -0000 Received: from mail2.acninc.net (38.201.2.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 12:15:52 -0000 Received: from athens.crosswinds.net (ip65.san-francisco31.ca.pub-ip.psi.net) by mail2.acninc.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.2.1998.10.13.00.06) with ESMTP id <0FBC0020Q7FBS8@mail2.acninc.net> for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Thu, 6 May 1999 20:45:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 17:40:33 -0700 From: Anton Subject: Re: newbies on sfraves will learn.... To: SF Raves Message-id: <37323681.4A0C5A1C@athens.crosswinds.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk "wait, you are supposed to wear shoes? :)" OMG, i couldn't imagine such a THING!! no shoes at 2nd & Jax... BLECH! LuvZ, Anton ( nEmo ) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 12:15:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12621 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 12:15:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 12582 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 12:15:52 -0000 Received: from mail2.acninc.net (38.201.2.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 12:15:52 -0000 Received: from athens.crosswinds.net (ip65.san-francisco31.ca.pub-ip.psi.net) by mail2.acninc.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.2.1998.10.13.00.06) with ESMTP id <0FBC003RC8VW3V@mail2.acninc.net> for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Thu, 6 May 1999 21:16:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 18:12:05 -0700 From: Anton Subject: skills partE... To: SF Raves Message-id: <37323DE4.FFAE78EB@athens.crosswinds.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey... i'm dEFINITELY goin' 2 tha skillz party... but i may or may not have a ride... so can someone please b kind Enuff to email me some direction from Bart... what station 2 get off, buses 2 take... all that happy rot. i'd b REALLY appreciative. ^_^ thankz! LuvZ, Anton ( nEmo ) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 13:47:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19542 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 13:47:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 19527 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 13:47:41 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 13:47:41 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.229] (libya-229.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.229]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA16234; Fri, 7 May 1999 06:47:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 07:02:50 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Fri) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ASTHMA Most asthma patients have underactive bowels, and one of the main things I emphasize in bowel health is the taking of four alfalfa tablets with each meal. Always crack them before swallowing. ---Dr. Bernard Jensen, DC ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 14:24:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3648 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 14:24:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 3628 invoked by uid 233); 7 May 1999 14:24:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 20297 invoked by uid 228); 7 May 1999 06:57:52 -0000 Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 23:57:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Karina Powers To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sfraves-calendar@hyperreal.org cc: Karina Powers Subject: This Week's SFR Calendar for 05.06.99 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hope you have a wonderful weekend! AXIOMS FOR THE INTERNET AGE - Submitted by K Stron ____________________________ 1. Home is where you hang your @ 2. The E-mail of the species is more deadly than the mail. 3. A journey of a thousand sites begins with a single click. 4. You can't teach a new mouse old clicks. 5. Great groups from little icons grow. 6. Speak softly and carry a cellular phone. 7. C:\is the root of all directories. 8. Don't put all your hypes in one home page. 9. Pentium wise; pen and paper foolish. 10. The modem is the message. 11. Too many clicks spoil the browse. 12. The geek shall inherit the earth. 13. A chat has nine lives. 14. Don't byte off more than you can view. 15. Fax is stranger than fiction. 16. What boots up must come down. 17. Windows will never cease. 18. In Gates we trust. 19. Virtual reality is its own reward. 20. Modulation in all things. 21. A user and his leisure time are soon parted. 22. There's no place like homepage. 23. Know what to expect before you connect. 24. Oh, what a tangled website we weave when first we practice. 25. Speed thrills. 26. Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach him to use the Net and he won't bother you for weeks. ==================================================== What lies behind us karina@hyperreal.org and What lies before us are tiny matters When compared to What lies Within Us. -Oliver Wendell Holmes ==================================================== The SFR Calendar http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/sf/calendar/gencal.cgi _________________________________________________________________ Friday, May 7th - EARTH Main Room DJ's:, KJ, Ellen Ferrato, Mouse, Chip McClure, Groove Room:, Joseph Lee, Damon.. An all-night homoelectric party every first Friday. Incredible sound systems, multiple trippy environments plus hot boys & men. 415.705.0585 10pm-6am, $15. $8 before 11pm, FREE with non-US passport.. 550 Barneveld, SF. http://www.earthSF.com. Friday, May 7th - Kids-N-Corporated: Take Over The World Trance:, Tap (kids inc.), Happy Kid Ian (Happy Kids, SF), House:, Happy Kid Marty (Happy Kids, SF), Dollar (Ravin Mad), XL (Union), Mike (Stockton), Tino (Santa Cruz), Surge (Riders of the Storm), Dizzi, Happy Hardcore:, Indecent (US records), Will-E-Wonka (Union), MC Apollo, Smiles (Sac), Jungle:, Deception Tommy, More tba. $5 pre sale tix at F-8 (S.F.) 415.221.4142 Subsonic (Sac) 916.441.2775 Stuffed Pipe(Fresno). 559.490.7788 . 559.279.7457 559.921.3555 Friday, May 7th - Torque Productions presents Progression 1)House/Breaks:, Thomas Michael (Phatt Phunk Records, Roofless Productions; LA), James Christian (Caffiene collective, Nervous, Strictly Rythem Records; NYC), Ty Tek (Teknight Records, Basic Entertainment, Torque Resident;Denver CO), Satori C (Humble Souls, M.E.S.S., Basic Entertainment, Torque, Resident; Denver, CO), Matty B (Housewares; SF), Chris K (Chicago), Seannie (Seattle), DJ Torque (Torque Resident; Denver), Drum and Bass:, Rinse (SF B.A.S.S. Kru, Compound Records; SF), Flux (SF B.A.S.S. Kru, Compound Records; SF) , Jamalski (Ruffneck Reality; N.Y.C.), Push (Future Breaks, 90.3FM; SF), Satori C (Denver, CO) , Kaya (Live techstep P.A.,Torque Resident; Connecticut), Eva (Raw Atmosphere; SF), DJ Sharp (Torque Resident; SF), Misc. B (Moist Crew; SF), Kunoichi (Moist Crew; SF). Limited Presale Tickets at $17.00 available @ Housewares, SF; Compound Records, SF; In tha Mix, Sac; Solid Grooves, San Jose. 415.345.9668 Friday, May 7th - ...your monthly turn-on...The RhythMethod Gurlz got tha RHYTHM! Cold War, Little Mishka, Melanie, Amber. 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. Il Pirata, 16th St & Potrero, SF. http://www.bass-station.com/rm/ Saturday, May 8th - Psychofunkodiscodelic steady Rockin with dj's: Laron (Frisky Records), Felix the Dog (black diamond), Buck (Leaf Recordings), The Baroness (Sunburn/Sister), John Pickett(Frisky Records), Laird, Dimitri. Live: The x-tra action marching band. Visuals by Satsi 10:30pm-4am, 21+. Jelly's Pier 50. 415.273.1170 415.273.1170 Saturday, May 8th - The WONDERFUL WACKY WORLD OF FUNKY BABY The first of 4party's to benefit the BURNINGMAN PROJECT this September. 10pm-sunrise, $5. Zocolo room , 6th and Broadway, Chico. 916.381-8545 Saturday, May 8th - Skills presents a free party in Golden Gate Park Dyloot, Tom Slik, Radley, Mars, Mystre, 510.869.4601. all day, music from 1pm-6pm, free. http://www.elemental.nu/skills 415.437.4460 Saturday, May 8th - Forward Motion Productions presents SPREAD THE WORD A small family gathering with your DJs Dutch, Josh Shwab, Kwashi, Miah, The Riddler, Micron, Joe-Joe, Ric V, Jeff Taisch, Vince, , Juggernaut(live PA), plus special guests. space limited to 300 people. Leave message on voice mail for carpooling information http://www.forwardmotion.net 5pm-8am, . $5 presale tix @ Daddys(berk), In tha Mix(sac), and online at sfrecords.com . http://www.sfrecords.com/spread 415.364.1407 Saturday, May 8th - ***VORG*** 3 ROOMS FILLED WITH:, John Kelly (Funky Desert Breaks * Moonshine Records LA), Astral Matrix (o.o.b.e. Music SF) , Troy Roberts (Global Phases Seattle) , Mars & Mystre (Frequency 8) , Justin Hale (Simply Cosmic) , Thomas Trouble (Trance and Jungle Factory * Vorg), Greg Sandler (Harmony * Vorg), Dyloot (Skills * MHZ * HK), Tom Slik (T&J Factory * Skills), J-Bot (Harmonics), Gianni (Spundae * Harmonics), Zoran (Vorg), DJ D (T&J Factory * Vorg), Ryan Wilber (NBC * Harmonics * Vorg), Erik Brown (NBC * Harmonics), Atomic DJ (Vorg * BASS Records) , Diversion (Vorg) , Ariel-Cybana (Vorg) , Merlin (Vorg). Pre-sale @ Harmonics 707.571.8747, T&J Factory 510.704.9876, f-8 415.221.4142, Group 3 BASS Records 510.796.3570, Solid Grooves 408.248.6399, Music CD World 650.938.7555, Mixology 707.526.1230 - MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE TBA CALL OUR 24HR INFO LINE $20. 415.750.3100 Saturday, May 8th - Twelve Monkeys SF presents PHUNKSKOOL 2 Featuring some of the best up and coming DJs from all around the bay area., Sceduled to appear:, Dan Isaac, Dj Pat, Anton, Kid Mathis, Franklin of the 12 Monkeys, Plus special guests:, Vince (Double Down), Kwashi, Rick V. (In The Mix), and our friends Mike and Cadence.. This free outdoor gathering will be going down from noon till dark. Bring your day time nessecities and be discrete. 415.436.0714 Saturday, May 8th - Oblivion TBA. For more info please email OblivianSF@hotmail.com For more information, please call: 579 Howard, SF. 415.339.8784 Sunday, May 9th - Pulse Main Room DJ's:, Blackstone, Ellen, Front Room DJ's:, Trouble, Bud Chism, Chip McClure. A gay tribal fest with hot go-go boys and club kid dancers. A Primal Groove party! For more information, please e-mail: primalgrve@aol.com 3pm -11pm, . 2 guests for the price of 1 ($12/per couple) b/w 3 pm - 4:30 pm w/ flyer. $12 cover after 4:30. 1015 Folsom, SF. Wednesday, May 12nd - ESOTERIK Jungle Life Crew, Lo-Ki, Eva, DJ Massix. 9pm-5am, 18+, $5. Big Heart City, 836 Mission Street, SF. Wednesday, May 12nd - AUDIO PRESONIFICATIONS Esoteric research..... frisco d-formation news alert!!! LO-KI (One of the mad originators of konkrete jungle n.y.c.), EVA (representing housewares s.f. queen of the natural evolution of frisco drum n bass), DJ MASSIX (esoteric resident, massix's tactics are always, changing new direction). entrance : 339 Jesse St, SF. GET IN FOR FREE every Wednesday FOR EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by going to : SPARK 601 Eddy St @ Larkin at the BACKFLIP 21+ $4 dollars featuring SAN FRANCISCO's downtempo , jungle, earth vibes party on TUESDAYS and getting tix here on dates tue:4/6, 4/13, 4/21 only. 9pm-4am, 18+. BIG HEART CITY, 836 mission st , SF. Friday, May 14th - Groove On Productions presents Ethereal: An adventure in space and time Featuring an awesome mix of music with House, Trance, Techno, Break Beats, and Ambient. The best of local and imported talent., Micron (Vibration), Science (Vibration), Thorfio (Stargaze), Dyloot (Skills, MHz), Li (Vibration), Megatron (Groove on), Soul Kid (Groove on), SNRGY (Groove on), Andy W (Viberation), Dysfncshnl (Groove on), DJ Prophet (Groove on), Traid , David Hopper, Deepfog, Ruben Pantoja. Fully Permitted, Tickets at the door. Mind blowing visuals provided by Stefan G & CultureLab Visuals. With special performances from MC Angel and MC Duh. Let the vibe begin! 10pm-5am, 21+, $10. 550 Barneveld, SF. 415.207.6283 Friday, May 14th - Inertia Three rooms of sound:, Hip Hop w/, Wisdom, Raw-B, House + Trance w/, Joshua George, Dutch, Chill Lounge w/, Addy, Joshua, Jacob. Free after hours with admission. $10 Limited presales available at: Housewarez on Haight. Cocomo, 650 Indiana @ Mariposa, SF. Saturday, May 15th - Pork Chop Hill Shubert & Dizolve (Dub'L Vision) , Hak & Siphon (Urban Assault), Michael Liu, Damon ( Atp ). 12noon-8pm, All ages. Santa Clara Central Park, Santa Clara. Saturday, May 15th - Platinum Studio and Gallery presents In The Beginning Freddie (Chicago), Jose (By the People, SF), Matty B. (Housewares), Christophe (Reno, SF), Olivier (Reno). More to be announced. Located in a 10,000 sq ft inline skate park. Fully permitted to go untill 6am. Lasers by SF's finest - UV99 $20. Reno. 775.322.8002 Saturday, May 15th - THE cloudfactory PROUDLY PRESENTS: presents s/he*BANG - A FASHION PERFORMANCE (for the Fabulous) s/he*BANG - An event so fabulous, we just had to invite you! What: Food, Booze, cloudfactory Music and Sound, eyecandy, low Fashion,high Kitsch. Fashion Performance 7pm-9pm, Reception/Party immediately following. Tix: $10 in advance. Distro in the East Bay: -Melissa melissa@cloudfactory.org 510.252.2720. Cindy puddin@bass-station.com 510.536.3384. Distro in San Francisco: Lauren lauren@signal11.com, 415.554.0387. Distro on the Peninsula:-Lacie lacie@club.net 650.627.9457. Tix also available at Something Else, 1603 Haight St. @Clayton in SF. 7pm-3am, . Crucible Steel Gallery, 2050 Bryant St., SF. http://www.cloudfactory.org/s/hebang 415.281.9432 Saturday, May 15th - First Light Collective presents First Light one year anniversary DJ's in Room 1:, Mars Vs.Mystre, Happy Kid Ian Vs. Happy kid Marty, Greg Sandler Vs. AndyW, Macadio, Andrei Morant (Template Records UK), Room 2:, Hak Vs. Siphon, Rinse Vs. Flux, Protolab (Live PA), Micron. Sound By Xtreme Audio, Lasers By UV99. This is a permitted Event. Presales Go on sale 4/20/99 at: F-8, Solid Grooves, Harmonics and In the mix. 10pm-6am, . 415.646.0763 Sunday, May 16th - Blankface presents CHEMISTRY A 14-hour mixture of sight, sounds and senses. NUCLEUS (outside patio):, John Howard (SF), Pete Moss (Ovum-Philly, PA), Julius Papp (Paper Recordings UK, SJ), Ellen Ferrato (Sugar, SF), Todd Michael (Blankface, SF), Fabulizz (Progress/Silky, SF), ATOMIC BREAKS (3-hour sets on 4 decks), Dom Some (Emerge, SF) vs. Moses (Uniting Souls, SF), Eversoul (Blankface, SJ) vs. Soulkid (USE Posse-Orlando, FL), Dfunkt (Beats Brigade, Santa Cruz) vs. Girl Friday (Blankface/Uniting Souls, SF), ELECTRANCE: , Scott dc (Nikita, SF), Keith Edwards (Blankface/Solid Grooves, SJ), Skyscraper (Blankface, SJ), Oddeci (Blankface, SJ). Visuals by Fuzzy. Cross Street: W. St. John, San Jose, CA. Free parking @ Market Street Garage across the street. noon-2am, 21+. $10 cover (free before 2pm). Club Ecco, 87 N. San Pedro, San Jose. http://www.clubecco.com 408.288.5856 Friday, May 21st - static cling productions presents Faze Main Room: Oboro Records, Tracy, Tao, E.T.I. (compliments of Daddys Records), J-Bot (Harmony), Dj D (T & J Factory), Marty (XLR8R), Tom-E (Static Cling), Tecni (Static Cling), Jungle Room:, Turtle (threshold vibes), Wain (threshold vibes), Spie (threshold vibes), Datem (threshold vibes), Russell G (Dancehall Militia), Hip-Hop/Trip-Hop:, We have PHAT dj's all lined up for ya!. Presale tickets $10<--->At the door $12 w/can $15 w/out Tickets available at--> Daddys Records, T & J Factory, BPM, Compound Records, Mixology, and Harmonics. We also have a great space for you...A lazer tag arena!! Its located in Santa Rosa. 707.325.0340 Friday, May 21st - children of the sun presents and the journey continues.. Brad (Moontribe/LA), Beatseed (Journees/Seattle), Greg Sandler (harmony), andyW (viberation), Micron (viberation), Macadio (First Light) . As Always Free Fruit & Lemonade - Limited Capacity - Presale Tix Strongly Advised. We Love You All / Spread The Warmth. 415.835.3144 Friday, May 21st - Silly and XLR8R Magazine presents MAZE Bringing you the best in international tribal techno trance. Adam X (Sonic Groove, NY), D.A.V.E. the Drummer (Live, Liberator Crew, UK), Maya 13/Deaks, Henrik Rosdahl, Mystrë, Charlotte the Baroness, Push, Justi. Every 3rd Friday of the month. 10pm-6am, 21+, $10. free b4 10:30. 550 Barneveld St., SF. 415.263.6750 Friday, May 21st - Da Roc entertainment presents ETERNAL PARADISE TOONS Quiet House Productions, REMEDY dmc finalist/B92.9/FM90.5, JV VALASCO da Roc entert., DJ PAPI groove night club , NOTORIOUS NORM City nights guest DJ - DJ CASUAL Rebel entert., DJ HEEBEE Club X guest DJ. US Dream Girls oil wrestle live on stage! Hard Body contest! FSA dance squad presents Haluan live on stage! It's also the beads night! 4 Go-Go cages, 2 stages. $170 thousand dollars worth of sound and lights including lasers. ALL AGES room &18+ room Fully stocked bar for those who are 21+. Freaky attire suggested. $15. 831.429.7779 Saturday, May 22nd - My House Productions presents SNUGGLE Marcellus (SF), Hiz Boy Elroy (SF), Taiyo (SF), Spike (KWR, Sac), Sonar (Chico), Wedge (Chico), Manic One (Chico), Ron Dare (KCHO, Chico), Kwashi (San Mateo), Erin (San Mateo), Jon Econ (Paradise), Woolove (SF). 10:00pm-6:00am, . Presale Tix ($8, $10 at the door) and info at Neo Retro. The Brick Works, 2nd and Wall Street, Chico. 530.893.2005 Saturday, May 22nd - Uniting Souls presents SoundTextures Come feel the abstract sounds of SF's underground Tag-teamin' 2x4 sessions:, Rasta Cue-Tip vs. J-Boogie (Beat Sauce KUSF 90.3 FM), Future Breaks crew (Arc Angel Gabe Real, DJ Push, Miss E), PBS crew (Mateo, No Battles, Buna). For your audio pleasure, we bring you a special night of jungle, hip-hop and breaks. Tune in to Future Breaks 90.3 FM Saturdays from 3-5 pm to win free passes to the party. Between 3rd & 4th off Townsend. 10pm-4am, 21+, $10. 330 Ritch, SF. 415.273.5449 510.273.2493 415.273.5449 510.273.2493 Saturday, May 22nd - small gathering Indoor event, an evening of jungle, trance and sick beats Mickey, Anakin, Sonic (aka Maize). More info on line up will be released later. $12. 415.449.7101 Saturday, May 22nd - l o v e w o r k s d a n c i n g presents " nature, rhythm, cloud, and sky " [ a celebration of the continuous beat of life ] for the love of may... featuring guest dj arkay performing an extended opening set, deep grooves and sonic architecture: resident dj matt valenz, guardian: robnoxious. btwn: 2nd / new mont. / mission . howard, s o m a these events are in partnership with the minna street gallery, now showing: l e n n i e m a c e ' s : 3 6 5 DAZE / ballpoint pen exhibit love / laughs / incense / flowers / candles / + the mightiest house music on earth. an audiosocial project implemented and monitored by the DDC. 9pm -. Minna Street Gallery, 111 minna street , SF . Saturday, May 22nd - We Got The Funk Bone (Detriot), Dj Dan (SF), Charles Feelgood (MD), Onionz (NY), Tony, Simon, Dan Isaac, Dj Pat, Anton, Dee, The Hitmen, Jonene (Stompy), Dj Jasen (LA), Barry Eves with MC JAMALSKI, KID MATHIS, Franklin,. Live: ETI. For Presale TIckets call Solid Grooves 408.248.6399 in San Jose, Primal Records (2420 Parker, Berkeley) 510.548.8511, BPM Music Factory (573 Hayes, SF) 415.487.8680, and Clear Music 415.437.1578. 415.436.0714 a very special guest MC Brittany Andrews Saturday, May 22nd - The Trance & Jungle Factory presents **** Trance and Jungle Factory 2 Year Anniversary!!! **** Servicing the scene for 2 years with many more to follow!!! TBA, Thomas Trouble (T&J Factory), DJ D (T&J Factory), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Productions, Quest), Tom Slik (Skills), Dyloot (Skills, MHz), Uphonic (e.t.a.), Tracer (sf ug), Joaqman (T&J Factory, 5 Families), Amber (bay area ug), Eric Brown (Rebirth, Harmonics), Greg Sandler (Harmony, Harmonics), Rinse (Compound Records, B.A.S.S. Kru), Flux (Compound Records, B.A.S.S. Kru), MC Jamalski (Compound Records, B.A.S.S. Kru), Vertigo (bay area ug), Radley (MHz, Skills), Micron (Viberation), Andy W (Viberation). Pre-sale tix available through Frequency-8 (S.F.), Harmonics (Santa Rosa), Solid Grooves (San Jose) and the T&J Factory (Berkeley). Limited capacity so make sure you purchase a pre-sale to ensure your spot! Don't miss our celebration of the growing success of the trance and jungle scene. 415.248.2669 Sunday, May 23rd - YOGURT Two rooms of music...one house/one hip hop, House, Jon Howard, Galen (Sunset), Chris Haycock, Chris Perrins, Tino, Hip Hop, Apollo (original skratch picklz), Wisdom (Beatsauce S.F.), Toby, M.A.. BBQ from 6pm-9pm. 6pm-2am, 21+, $5. Club Ecco 87, N. San Pedro, San Jose. Friday, May 28th - Star*burst Productions presents Star*burst Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records), Greg Sandler (Harmony/Harmonics), Joe Lanzon (Bagok Tribe), Jeyson (Davis Funky Family), Dragn'fly (Epiphany), Hoth (Positive Theory). 100% fully permitted new Sacramento location. Proceeds to benefit the Sacramento Food Bank. Presale Tickets can be purchased @ In Tha Mix and Imagine Music in Sac. and Primal in Berzerkeley... $5 w/ a canned food item, $7 w/o. 916.815.4337 Friday, May 28th - May 31st - Lightseed Collective presents Butterfly A Lightseed Campout in praise of Julia Butterfly Hill in honor of Luna More info to be announced... http://www.sfrecords.com/lightseed/ Friday, May 28th - Squeeze Adnan, Nathan, Ray. In the Blue Room @ Nikita. 12 midnight-4am, 21+. 1015 Folsom, 1015 Folsom, SF. 415.789.7208 Saturday, May 29th - NOMAD INTERACTIVE presents ORIGIN-MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND GATHERING. MORE TBA.. 415.675.5605 510.433.9933 408.278.5553 916.554.0554 Saturday, May 29th - Clockwork Eventz presents METROPOLIS 7 Underground dance districts of diversity METRODOME:, Donald Glaude, Terry Mullan, DJ Rktech, Hipp-E, Jeno, Tony, The ELECTRIC KINGDOM:, Charlotte The Baroness, DJ Liquid, DJ Ghost, Miss Knight, J-Boogie, Deep in the GARNET KONKRETE JUNGLE:, R.A.W. w/ MC?, Rinse & Flux w/MC Jamalski, U.F.O., Aaron V., DJ Dose, The Infamous Highlanders, FUNKYTOWN: Funky Beat's 4 yr anniversary:, Simon, DJ Doubt, DJ Matthew, Paucus, David vs.Joey Mazzola on 4, Jasen C., SECTOR 2:, Jon Williams, DRC, Chris Jackson, St. John, J-Bot, Charly Fusion, DJ Xolotyl, The Comfort, Room:, Deepfog, Boomerang, Triad, Reggae Lounge: come hang and feel da Irie vibes inside our reggae lounge. Prepare for the awakening!!! A night of bad ass talent, mixing through the most intense beats to date!!! A night of explosive performances, that will push the boundaries of the underground mentality!!! A night that will be out of control, filled with the amazement of an interactive multimedia extravaganza. LUMATECH lighting will be throwing down the fattest lighting show that nobody has ever seen before!! The Royal Rumble: mark wayne,jk sound,xtreme audio We will also be celebrating Funky Beats 4 year anniversary!!! HIEROGLYPHICS,THE PHARCYDE. Live p.a. Sound Of Light. 408.747.7742 415.721.4713 510.733.1140 916.565.6560 Sunday, May 30th - Memorial Day Full Moon Free Outdoor on the Beach Rob Doten, John Rodriguez, TJ, Eric Erickson, David Coleman, en-Sei, plus guest TBA. Live: (live). http://www.SFHouse.com 415.339.8015 Sunday, May 30th - EUROTIKA 3 Biohazard productions-L.A..(GABE &THEE-O), F-8-S.F.(MYSTRE), ANTHONY S(THE TRIBE), D!ZZ!(Fresno). . Modesto Centre Plaza,, Modesto. 209.236.6846 415.221.4142 Sunday, May 30th - Memorial Weekend Trance & Jungle Factory presents Man on the Moon Memorial Thomas Trouble, DJ "D", Phat Pat, Vertigo, many more!. Don't forget you've got Monday off!! So get your dancin shoes on and join in the trance family festivities. This is going to be a small party with limited pre-sales. Please check back later for more information! Big Heart City, SF. 415.248.2669 Friday, June 4th - Rendezvous (ran da voo) A Beautiful San Francisco Trance Family Gathering! Lets Rendezvous all night with lots of love and music. See you there! 2 Rooms that will feature:, Thomas Trouble (Trance & Jungle Factory), DJ "D" (T&J Factory), Mars (Frequency 8), Mystre (F-8), Phat Pat (all the way from the U.K.), Amber (Bay Area UG), Vertigo, Tracer (San Francisco UG), Uphonic (E.T.A.), Joaqman (T&J Factory), Saucee (S.F.), Introducing Grant! (San Jose). This is a must attend party with lots to remember! Limited Pre-Sale Tickets go on sale May 10th for Only $19. Door will be $22, this party will take place at awesome facility but we do recommend Pre-Sale 13-at the Following Locations: Berkeley T&J Factory (510)704-9876, Santa Rosa Harmonics (707)571-8747 San Fran Frequency 8 (415)441-4142, Modesto Motion Music (209)577-6965 San Jose Solid Grooves (408)248-6399, Hayward Twilight Zone (510)538-7945. 415.721.3863 Friday, June 4th - Bliss DJ's House: , Johnny Fiasco (Chicago), Terry Mullan (CHicago) and Halo (Chicago) on 4 decks, Steve Loria (L.A.) and Tony on 4 decks, Donald Glaude (Seattle), Hippie (Denver), Rick V. and Dizzy on 4 decks, Karizma, Vince, Paul Gordon, Markus, Sugar D., Bryen, And IN THE JUNGLE ROOM:, Danny tha WIldchild (Chicago) and Phantom 45 (Chicago) on 4 decks, Dara (N.Y.), Flux w/ Jamalski, Presha and Stompa on 4, B-SIde, Ivry, Rif.... Held @ Cal Expo on in buildings A and B....All 3 rooms of sound will be covered by Mark Wayne.. Laser by Hollywood Dog...Visuals by I-Candy and L.S.D., Atmosphere by Funky Baby and A super large Chill Zone by Vega.... Presale Locations: In Tha MIx, Sacramento, 2329 I St. (916)442-0499, Solid Grooves 368 S. Bascom St., San Jose, (408)999-0259 Rock On, Fairfield, 1630 North Texas St. (707)422-2080, Motion Music, Modesto, 403 coffee St. (209)577-6965, Housewares, San Francisco, 1322 Haight st., (415) 252-1440 $25 @ the door and we have Very Limited 20 dollar Pre-sales . Sacramento. 916.554.0885 415.248.2678 408.920.2280 Saturday, June 5th - northbaycollective presents presents *S*H*I*N*E* 4 Rooms of Phunk. please call for more info. http://www.greenfieldgraphix.com/nbc.html 707.579.9688 Saturday, June 5th - Sister d&b room:, XJS, Alley Cat, Melanie (SF House Collective), Miss E (Future Breaks FM), House & Techno room: , Forest Green (techno west/cloud factory), Lori & Tracy. Sound by: cloud sound. Cross Street: Masonic. 21+. 1751 Fulton St., SF. http://www.xanthoria.com 415.255.4333 Saturday, June 5th - GoodeTyme Entertainment presents AMNESIA GoodeTyme Entertainment bring to you a Music lovers delight with reowned DJ's as follows: ONIONZ (ELECTRIC SOUL/Imperial Dub/Chocolate Factory- NYC), DORAN (Fragrant Music/RAM), JIM HOPKINS (Twitch/V-Wax/ELECTROLINERS,-SF), TONY (The Gatherings, SF), HAPPY KID MARTY (Happy Kids- SF), DJ TECHNIQUE (CLOCKWORK DJ's/Journeez Music), Homero X-Pinosa (GoodeTyme DJ's), Pistachio + Aonymous(Math Sound Workshop), Tracy (Sister/Daddy's Records), Jesse (the crate). Fully permitted and secure venue with over 40,000 square feet. 2 rooms +1 outside area. Industry-(promoters, venders, Art donations) 415.563.7777 $15. pre-sale or $20.00 @ door . 415.674.1111 Saturday, June 5th - E.T.A. presents Monument to Eternity A Hard Trance Rising Event Uphonic, Kemical Kidd, Tracer, Dyloot, Depth, DJ D. This is a limited capacity, pre-sale only event. For more information please call our voice mail. 415.364.1803 Saturday, June 5th - The Unity Vibe Tribe presents GENERATION X Dj line up soon to be posted..... For more imformation please call: 408.271.6900 650.361.0950 Friday, June 11st - VORG presents BREATHE A very special party at a once again brand spankin', fresh, new location!!! More TBA. 415.750.3100 Saturday, June 12nd - Silver Pearl Records presents QUEST Summer Solstice Guiding your Quest from dusk 'til dawn on 4 thumping sound systems with DJS: Jeno (Wicked, SF), Doran (Rampant Records and Hook Recordings, LA), Christopher Lawrence (Hook Recordings and Fragrant, LA), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records, SF), Steve Loria (Bang the Drum, LA), Barry Weaver (Funky Techno Tribe, Seattle), Astral Matrix (O.O.B.E. Music, SF), Jason Blakemore (Life Music, Aquarium, aka DJ Trance, LA), Tony (The Gathering, SF), Donald Glaude (Funky Teckno Tribe, Seattle), Caine (Silver Pearl, SF), MODA (Trancefusion Records), Greg Sandler (Harmony, SF), Tom LG (Silver Pearl, SF), Tracy (Sister and Quest, SF), Dieselboy (611 Records, Philadelphia), Rinse & Flux with MC Jamalski (B.A.S.S. Kru and Compound Records, SF), R.A.W. (Mictlan Recordings, LA), NMAN (Biofonik and Silver Pearl, SF), J-Bot (Harmonics, Santa Rosa), Incredible Ambient Chamber with:, B))merang and Triad, Many more to be announced.. As always, we will have amazing visuals in each and every room, thumping sound systems by Silver Pearl and JK, lasers in 2 rooms by UV99, environment by Silver Pearl, and incredible floral art by Anthony Ward of PassionFlora NYC. We will have a wonderful clean safe warehouse, plenty of FREE fruit arranged into beautiful edible altars, and lots of free water. Limited pre-sale tickets will be available May 15th at the following Bay Area locations... and remember, the first 500 pre-sale tickets will receive a FREE mix CD courtesy of Silver Pearl Records: Solid Grooves, San Jose (408) 248-6399, Daddy's Records, Berkeley (510) 665-1653, Harmonics, Santa Rosa (707) 571-8747, In the Mix, Sacramento (916) 442-0499, F-8, San Francisco (415) 221-4142, Compound Records, San Francisco (415) 864-8309, Pipeline, Santa Cruz (831) 425-7473, or by mail from Silver Pearl Records by e-mailing contact@silverpearl.com. http://www.silverpearl.com 415.273.5912 510.287.5620 408.278.5286 Saturday, June 12nd - Skills invites all a smiling to A STARRY NIGHT With very special guests from L.A., Thomas Michael, Thee-O, Demigod, Plus all your favorite local DJ's -, Dyloot, Tom Slik, Mars & Mystre, Radley, Thomas Trouble, DJ D, Uphonic & Kemical Kidd, Tracer & Telene, Happy Kid Marty & Happy Kid Ian.. 415.437.4460 510.869.4601 Sunday, June 13rd - Raver Day at Great America Fun in the Sun!. Meet @ the front gate @ 11am. Great America, Great America Parkway, Santa Clara. Friday, June 18th - The creators of Foundation, All in the Family, Emerald City and the creators of K2 presents United. In our House room, Jeno (Wicked, Gathering, SF), Eric Nelson (Love Affair), Sol (Togetha), Tyler (Motorway), Markus Mark, JP (Kick Drum), In the Drum and Bass room, Hans (Motorway), Stompa (Pbs), Billy (916 Junglist), Patr!c (Vega.) , Special Guest MC Shock G (A.K.A. Humpty) with Busy B from Digital Underground. Visuals by Eyelusions.Call Down Town Sounds for information and presale tickets 916-444-7639. 916.523.0027 Friday, June 18th - OPEN HOUSE presents Strictly Underground w/ your Open House Supastars: Serendipity, Unity, Styven & Scott Bliss, along with Guest Djs:, Evillyn (blessing us with her presence all the way from HAWAII), Joey Mazzola (Influence Recordings), Jason (Unite Prod.), Ryan Christopher, Levi, Secret Squirrel, Pengo, Gilad (5D), DevDawg (Roswell/McDonald Foundation), LadyJane tha' pimptress w/ MC Ragga Banton, Aspect(I.B.S), MES (Daddy's Records,KICK DRUM), and more TBA. $12 presale tickets are now available at: Daddy's Records (Berkeley) and Primal Records (Berkeley). First come first serve. THIS EVENT WILL SELL OUT!!!! *This is a 225 person max capacity party* Much love to all! And remember always, KEEP IT UNDERGROUND!! 225 presale tickets. SF. 510.288.7676 Friday, June 18th - Counterpoint Productions presents Commence More TBA, Housewaves and Trancefrequencies by BARRY WEAVER (Funky Techno Tribe, LA), THOMAS TROUBLE (Trance and Jungle Factory, SF), TONY (The Gathering, SF), RIG-A-TONY (Sagitariun), TYLER (Counterpoint), DENNIS (THC), DJ SCOTT (Kick Drum), SCI FI, DAVID, DJ GLOW. LASERS by HOLLYWOOD DOG, THUNDERING SOUND by COMMUNITY, FREE FRUIT and CANDY, 2 ROOMS. 9pm-6am, All ages. $12 w/ canned food $15 w/ out. Sacramento. http://counterpoint.sacone.com 916.783.9948 916.866.3266 Saturday, June 19th - Magic Playground Mix Master Mike, Jeno, U.F.O, Taj, Abstract, Tony, Mechete, Star Eyes, Rick V, Rktech, Kenneth Paul . Flat-presale will be released 2nd week of May. Turbo Sound System. FULLY PERMITTED. 2ND/JACKSON IN JACK LONDON SQUARE 10pm-6am, $25. JACKSON STREET WAREHOUSE, 225 JACKSON ST OAKLAND, Oakland. http://www.magicplayground.com Saturday, June 19th - Feel Good Entertainment presents Splendor Blender : "Its time to get your mix on". The Summer Solstice PLURity Vibe-Fest. the First Ever : With 6 Incredible Rooms of Splendid Music, Deepsky - Live PA (Fragrant Records, LA), DJ D:FUSE (Expansion Project, Funked Up Records, Austin TX), Moda & Jazz-E, DJ Kevin Kind & Kwashi, Mike Barrett & Kid Bippy, Eric Spire, MC Ray Vonie, Joey Mazzola & David Garcia, Ghost & Frank Nitty, DJ Liquid & DJ RKTECH, Greg Sandler & Logik, Thomas Trouble & DJ D, Corey & Brent Vassar, BluTonic (Universe, Ministry Of Sound, UK), Rinse & Flux, Hak & Siphon, Sideburn Slim, Jeff Taisch, Turtle, MC Duh, Deepfog, B))merang, Triad, Bodhi, Skye, DJ Phelan, Joaqman, Kid Loose & Rossi, DJ Mad Merc, Joe Lanzon, Randy H., Willow, Shubert, The Higlanders : DJs Tomcat & Saucer, Supernatural Turntable Artists DJs , Relm, Swiftrock, Streak, Deus, Jahrome, Ajaxxx, DJ Derrick D, Scotty Fox, SunnMoonSekt (Performing Live), DJ Quest, J-Wicked, Rasta Cue Tip, Fashion with Passion (Interactive Multi-media Rave-Fashion Expo), BeatDown Sundaze Afterparty: DJs:, Paucus, Tripnotix, Gran-T, Breeze, Ulrich, DJ Prophet + Guests. A Limited Number of Discounted $25 discounted Pre-sale tickets go on sale May 21st. For Pre-sale ticket info please see http://www.sfrecords.com or http://www.tixtogo.com/go/feelgood Summer Solstice PLURity Vibe-Fest A portion of Proceeds will Benefit Oakland Outreach & Educational Programs. Next door to the Coliseum. Doors at 10pm sharp. Party goes All-Night Long and afterparty till Sunday Night!!! http://www.globalparty.com Keep It Real Good With Feel Good. A GlobalParty production - The big party with that small party feel. Oakland International Rave Center, 633 Hegenberger Rd. 415.263.0483 408.881.0785 510.888.2358 Saturday, June 19th - FREQUENCY 8 4 year Anniversary Celebration Summer Solstice Campout Weekend Stay Tuned In.. Saturday June 19th- Sunday 20th. http://www.frequency-8.com 415.541.5019 415.541.5863 Sunday, June 20th - Hi Rise productions and Existential Sounds presents Backflip 2 year anniversary - Love and War Garth (Wicked), Jone`ne` (Stompy Hi-Fi), Markie (Wicked), Tasho (Stompy Hi-Fi), Jeno (Wicked), Preston (Stompy Hi-Fi), Moses (Sunshine Daydream), Girl Friday (Uniting Souls), fabuLizz (Uniting Souls), Seven (Hi Rise), Sol (Hi Rise), Michael Tello (Housepitality), Dave Chapman (Legion of Funk), Peterbilt (Hi Rise), Jason Henry (Legion of Funk), Push (Future Breaks), Miss E (Eklectik), PBS crew (Arc Angel Gabe Real, NoBattles, and Mateo), Jin (HiRise), Le'Le' (Legion of Funk). Tickets will go on sale Saturday, April 24 at local record stores: Tweekin Records, Housewares, Clear Records, Big Daddy's (Berkeley), and Primal Records (Berkeley). With food and festivities both indoors and by the pool. 12 pm-2am, . $10 in advance and $15 at the door. . Thursday, June 24th - XTORT Productions presents AMOEBA Simon Apex (SSU), Sascha23 (Xtort), dB (Xtort), Glow (Xtort), Dj Chad (Xtort/Alpha Zone). DIRECTIONS: Take I-80 east toward Reno, exit right on Madison, left on Auburn, right on Garfield. Turn left into first parking lot; building in back. As always this is an ALL AGES event. Doors are open at 9PM so come early to beat the rush and walk away with FREE stuff to the first 50 people from various record labels. TICKETS: $8 at the door all night (come early to gaurantee entry :o) sacramento. http://home.earthlink.net/~sascha23 916.334.6200 Friday, June 25th - Nocturnal Productions presents X.O.X Returns 3 Year Anniversary Frankie Bones 2x4, Tony vs. Simon 2x4, Jim Hopkins, Mike Barrett, Leo, Dj Champ, Corey 2x4, Anton vs. Kwashi 2x4. Jungle and Trance lip TBA ASAP. Pre-sale tickets will only be $17. This event will sell out so please if you really want to go, please buy your presales. This event will be in a permitted location in a secure area. More info will be posted by the middle of may. This event will be my own pre-Freedom adventure. Friday, June 25th - climaXXX productions presents THUNDERDOME Trance:, Heidi & Anakin (Rebel Sound Alliance), DJ D (T&J Factory), Bryan Lee (Global Energy Music, SF/LA), DJ Eyal (Global Energy Music, Fragrant, Phatt Phunk Records, LA), Happy Kid Ian (Happy Kids), DJ 725 (Kuang Mark, XI), Happycore & Jungle:, Nebula (climaXXX), Simon Apex (Alpha Magic Recordings, UK) _-VS-_ DJ Nimh (Happy4Beat, Phoenix, AZ), DJ ansi (R.A.S.H., Redemption), DJ climaXXX (climaXXX). This will all go down in Berkeley, CA-400 person capacity. Free H2O, outdoor chill space, and more surprises... $10 Presale, $12 at the door. Presales available at Isolate Records, 2114 Addison, Berkeley.. 510.726.1303 Friday, June 25th - Squeeze Adnan, Nathan, Ray . In the Blue Room @ Nikita. 12 midnight-4am, 21+. 1015 Folsom, 1015 Folsom, SF. 415.789.7208 Saturday, June 26th - BIO.LOGIC Wichdokta, Random, MRK, Micron, Oz, Blake, Nagual, R2-Witco, Anon, Eva, The 5lower Shop, Lorax, Sonja, Matt, Sha-Wan, more to come. Three rooms in the North Bay. Saturday, June 26th - The müvmental Collective presents Reality Used to be a Friend of Mine Juan Atkins (Metroplex/TVT/WaxTrax/R&S Records), ANI (On-E) formerly of DEEE LITE (zoo york media), Barry Weaver (Funky Tekno Tribe), DRC (Twin Soul Productions), Sleepy C (psycoactive/AVA), Jeff Samuel (Lo-Fi Record/Nonstatic), DJ Ghost (Ghostribe Krew), Rinse & Flux w/ MC Jamalski (B.A.S.S. KRU), Smalls & 7UP (5 star productions), Dyloot (Skills/Mhz), Shakes (müvmental), Mua'dib (müvmental). This party is dedicated to all the kids who know where the Vibe lives. Presale outlets: F-8 Compound Records, Solid Grooves, In the Mix, Trance & Jungle Factory, Harmonics. We come together to create something beautiful out of love. http://www.muvmental.com 415.789.7366 510.273.2435 Saturday, June 26th - Harmony More information TBA. Friday, July 2nd - T r a n q u i l i t y presents WELCOME TO TRANQUILITY An out door underground event pushing the power of trance. Alias (Tranquility, Question Mark Productions), Mystre (F-8), Uphonic (E.T.A.), Telene, Merlyn (V.O.R.G.). 200 limited $10 pre-sales ONLY. 415.435.7567 Saturday, July 3rd - July 4th - 8TH ANNUAL FREEDOM FESTIVAL Line-up T.B.A.. Flyers out soon. 415.905.8888 Friday, July 9th - children of the sun presents Sunshine Of Your Love a summertime celebration of love, life, and happiness... 415.835.3144 Saturday, July 10th - idm tba.... http://www.elemental.nu/idm Saturday, July 10th - TRANCE AND JUNGLE FACTORY presents Man in the Moon Reunited Thomas Trouble, Dj D, Eric Spire, Mars, Mystre, Dyloot, Tom Slik. Please check back soon for a huge line-up. Capacity is limited 2000 people, so please purchase your pre-sale tickets early. 415.248.2669 Saturday, July 10th - Forever Young Robbie Long vs. Devestate (Next Generation, UK) Happy Hardcore FIRST U.S APPEARANCE!!, SIMON APEX (Alpha Magic, UK) vs. DJ NIMH (Happy 4 Beats, Phoenix AZ), ANDY vs. B2B JOSH (Sac.), APOLLO SMILE (Forever Young, Sac.), DJ HERETIC (119 Crew, LA) vs. RIFF (Sac.) Jump up Jungle, DEMIGOD (Industrial Strength, LA) DUTCH (Happy Gabber), RON D. CORE (Freeclouds Mixinglab, LA) Terrorcore, IMIX (Navigator, Sac.) Live P.A Speed Garage, MOE (Sac.), RICKY RICARDO (Loolipop, Chico), JASON-WHO (Fuzze, Sac.), BLAKE (N.B.C), TANK (Sac.). All night, free fruit, free water, and free stuff for early birds. Please come with your open minds, smiles, and get ready to dance! *limited Presale at Subsonic Underground Record Store, Sac. 9pm-8am, $15. Sacramento. 916.603.2866 Saturday, July 10th - 6 in da mornin productions presents Ground Zero 4: Judgement Night - The Final Chapter (6AM 3 Year Anniversary) TBA. World Class dj lineup and live acts to be unveiled on Saturday, April 3rd 1999. Promoters and vendors please contact 6AM on the industry line (800) 683-4569. Except no imitations. 415.995.1940 Saturday, July 17th - Torque Productions presents Zodiac House: , -Halo (Chicago) vs. Hipp-E (Denver/SD)- (H- Project/Catalyst/Moody), Ty Tek (Teknight Records/Basic Entertainment/Torque Resident; Denver), Little Mike (Basic Productions; Denver), Rick V. (Torque Resident; Sac.), Tracer (Skills) vs. Torque (Torque Resident; SF), Fabuliz (Consciouness Session; SF), ****MORE TBA****, Drum and Bass:, Fury (Lower World; SF), Deacon (Wreck Ignition/Ch. 36; LA), Rinse and Flux (Seperate Sets) (SF B.A.S.S. Kru/Compound Records), Sharp (Torque Resident; SF), ****MORE TBA****. Limited Pre-sale tickets available for $20 @ Housewares (SF), Compound Records (SF), Trance and Jungle Factory (Berkeley), Daddy's Records (Berkeley), In tha Mix (Sac), Solid Grooves (San Jose) Harmonics (Santa Rosa)-Rock On (Fairfield) 415.345.9668 Saturday, July 17th - INNER EYE presents oOo AREA 51 oOo ((((((CONTACT)))))) TBA. We are organizing this event to be the most epic event of the summer... Top secret information will be released on May 1st, until then all info is CLASSIFIED... Stay tuned in... Friday, July 23rd - Red Skye Productions presents Scoobi Snack Henrik Rosdahl (no tv, SF ), Crom , Charlotte the Baroness (Sunburn Hardkiss, SF), David Michael (Phasedmusic, Wish, Spundae, SF), Hank the guy with records , 707.793.2150. North Bay Location. Advance tics @ f8 and harmonics. Rumor has it Dave n Char are going 2by4 for 3 hours hmmmm.... $7. Friday, July 23rd - Megahertz presents 80MHz Dyloot, Aspect, Radley Marx, Elias Smith.. more TBA http://www.mhz.nu/80MHz 415.395.8448 Saturday, July 24th - Unity Vibe Tribe presents NETWORK Eric Micheal (Unity Vibe), LSDJ (Unity Vibe) , Moda (Transfusion), N8 (Unity Vibe). Unity Vibe Tribe invites you to join us NETWORK Together, To Understand a higher level of Electronic music. This line up is far from being completed..Please check with our voice lines 4 more information..This event will be dedicated 4 those that Truly appreciate Electronic music..100% pure vibe fully permited, enormous capacity. Saturday, July 24th - Open House w/your Open House Dj's: Scott Bliss, Serendipity, Styven & Unity, along with Guest Dj's: , Woodrow Low (A.M. Prod., Seattle), Jon Lee (Concepts, Seattle), Mes (Daddy's, Kick Drum), Joey Mazzola (Influence Recordings), Secret Squirrel, Jason (Unite Prod.), Gilad (5D), more TBA!!. Much love to all! And remember always, KEEP IT UNDERGROUND!!. SF location. 18+. (pre-sale tix available soon!). SF. 510.288.7676 Saturday, July 24th - @spire 2 years in the making... TBA. We're back... Tell a friend! More information coming soon! 415.273.5513 Friday, July 30th - SKILLS presents Cake Walk Dyloot, Tom Slik, Radley, Mars & Mystre, Ron Allyn. Full EAW sound by JK. 5 watt argon laser by UV99. Lighting by Impact. Intellabeams by Math Workshop. Glow by SKILLS, Free candy, fruit & H20. 100% fully permitted & secured. Thanx to all who have supported us, please come with open minds. 10pm-6am, $11. pre-sale ONLY! @ F8, T&J Factory, Solid Grooves, Harmonics and In tha Mix.. 415.437.4460 510.869.4601 Saturday, July 31st - Mytical Mayhem Productions presents Serenity MC Jamalski (B.A.S.S. Kru, SF), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records & Quest, SF), Greg Sandler (Harmony & Harmonics, SF), Doran (Rampant Records, Hook Recordings, LA), Moshe (SF), Gianni (Release, & Spundae, SF), Joey (Housenation) on 2 x 4, DJ Doubt(Ministry Of Sound,UK) on 2 x 4, Kevin Kind (FGE), Kwashi (FGE), Hak & Siphon (Urban Assault), Sideburn Slim (Native Vision Prod.), Eric Brown (Rebirth & Harmonics), Moshe (SF), Willow (Mystical Mayhem), and many more to be announced.. Stay tuned for more information.... For information please call Mystical Mayhem (the cocreator of Rebirth) brings us SERENITY. So many firsts at this event which include fresh new tracks from Influence Recordings artists Doubt & Joey & aromatherapy environment. Also free fruit, lemonaide, massage practioners, etc. brought together to create an experience for all the senses. For info, promotion, vending, ideas, etc call 10pm-6am, . 415.789.7344 408.882.5090 415.789.7344 408.882.5090 Saturday, July 31st - Full Circle Reunion - TechNique James Christian (NYC), Vicious Vic (NYC), Tony, Garth, Simon, DJ Matthew, with more T.B.A.. More info on the way! Sunday, August 1st - Existential Sounds presents... presents Birth...a celebration of Life. Garth (Wicked), Markie (Wicked), John Howard (Heavy Rotation), Chang (Simons, Gainesville, FL), Three (Hallucinations Records, Tampa, FL), Brian Busto (The Rubb, Tampa, FL), and more TBA. . An indoor/outdoor event featuring an art show. (between Potrero and Utah) Art show from 3PM-8PM. Music from 2PM-2AM. Tickets available May 31, 1999. Buses to the location: 33 Stanyan 22 Fillmore 9 San Bruno. email: avatarz@earthlink.net avatarz@earthlink.net or salivatethurs@hotmail.com Tickets available at Tweekin' Records, Housewares, Big Daddys (Berkley), and Primal Records (Berkley). Free before 4 pm, $8 in advance, $15 at the door. . IL Pirata, 2007 16th St, SF. 415-626-2626. Friday, August 6th - Purity of Essence Mars, Mystre, Uphonic, Dutch, Dyloot, Tracer, more to come. Saturday, August 7th - Space Children's 4th Annual Juggernaut Festival! Tim Taylor (Missle Rec. UK), Cesar, Twerk, Greg Sandler x Dutch, Mars x MystrE, UFO x Noel, PBS Crew. Live: Spacetime Continuum, Crash Worship, Cosmic Selector x Buna, BazZaRrO. Much, much more TBA, get ready for something EPIC this summer!!! We've missed you, and we can't wait to party with you all again. *Keep in touch with our info sources, we've got a couple of free parties coming soon... http://www.spacechildren.com 415.675.4700 Saturday, August 7th - Native Vision Productions presents The Prophesee DJ LINE UP & MORE INFO TO FOLLOW IN JUNE . We Invite you to celebrate the remembrance of the Prophecy that made the world what it is today. The Prophecy goes like this: In the beginning we sat in a circle to share and remand as one with each other and Mother Earth, then the creator came down and split us up in to the red, white, yellow, and black we were all to accomplish a certain number of things then come back into the circle and share. We need to remember the root of it all. So we the people for the Earth can live. http://www.globalparty.com/nvp/ 415.281.0777 Sunday, August 8th - 3horsemen Productions presents DAISY Thomas Trouble, D.J. D, Simon, Greg Sandler, Elias Smith, J-BOT.. A party with real heart. It's Daisy's birthday and she wants to see all those happy party friends of hers there. Join us in S.F. because the weekend is not over till it's over. With free snacks at 5PM and a hunken big cake at 6PM. We are all one big family kids so join us in celebrating Daisy's birthday and if your birthday is this weekend you get in free. Party is limited to 650 pre-sale tickets. At the door admittance as space becomes available. Get your $15 pre-sales at: Harmonics(Santa Rosa), Frequency 8(San Francisco),T&J Factory(Berkeley)"HAPPY BIRTHDAY DAISY" 4pm-4am, . http://www.3horsemen.com 415.721.3929 Friday, August 13rd - August 15th - Camp Harmony TBA. All weekend camping celebration!!! More information TBA. Saturday, August 14th - CLOCKWORK EVENTZ presents STARZ TBA.. Live: Long Beach Dub All-Stars.. CLOCKWORK EVENTZ invites you to come dance under the... STARZ Superstar talent to be announced!!! This will be held at a wonderful outdoor location. Much more info in the future....... 408.747.7742 415.721.4713 510.733.1140 916.565.6560 Saturday, August 21st - FREQUENCY 8 Cybertrance Communication Stay Tuned In.. http://www.frequency-8.com 415.541.5019 415.541.5863 Friday, August 27th - August 28th - VORG presents A SPECIAL 2-DAY LAKESIDE CAMPOUT with amazing European live-performers. More TBA. 415.750.3100 Saturday, August 28th - Aliennation krew presents Abduction ! With the bay area's top dj's!, Tony, Simon, Frank Nitty, Joey Mazzola, Tripnotix, Paucus, Tommy Meyer, More t.b.a!. Main flyer coming in june 28, 1999!!! Saturday, August 28th - The Trance and Jungle Factory presents TICKLE 4 Extravaganza!!! Watch out for an amazing line-up!. More info t.b.a. 415.248-2669 Saturday, August 28th - InnerEye and (((THUMP))) Radio presents HALLUCINATION - 4th Annual pre-burningman trip-out HALLUCINOGEN - LIVE P.A. (Twisted Records, UK), TRISTAN (Twisted Records, UK), SIMON H. (Twisted Records, UK 1999 tour), PSY-WILD (213 Records), DUTCH (InnerEYE), others T.B.A. . 3 Areas,Techno/Trance room, Jungle/Breaks room, and Down Tempo/Ambient room. Amazing line-up and San Francisco Venue. More to come....... http://www.innereye.org 415.339.8082 510.595.5555 Saturday, September 4th - Feel Good Entertainment presents Megga-Buzz 4-U The 4th Annual Labor Day 3-Day Holiday Weekend PLURity Vibe-Fest! The Premier of local DJ Showcase. Buzz Line Birthday party celebration event. Keep it Real Good with Feel Good. http://www.globalparty.com Friday, September 10th - (((THUMP))) Radio presents X-Dream!!! (blue room records) TBA. Check back soon for more info. Saturday, September 11st - EarCandy Two - Our One Year Celebration TBA, Mars, Mystre, Dutch, Uphonic, Tracer, Micron, Dyloot, Happy Kid Ian, , and more TBA :). 415.281.8384 Friday, September 17th - Megahertz presents 100MHz Aspect, Radley Marx, Elias Smith, Dyloot, Special Guests.. more TBA http://www.mhz.nu/100MHz 415.395.8448 Saturday, September 18th - ASR 2 Year Anniversary Three room's of superb DJ's TBA..... This event will be in celebration of ASR's two year anniversary, therefore ASR will go back to it's roots, the Monterey Bay. Saturday, September 18th - Silver Pearl Records presents Quest TBA . Stay tuned for details... http://www.silverpearl.com 415.273.5912 510.287.5620 408.278.5286 Saturday, September 25th - Harmony Sixth Year Anniversary Celebration!!! TBA. More Information TBA Saturday, October 2nd - Mystical Mayhem line up TBA. Details TBA 415.789.7344 408.882.5090 Saturday, October 2nd - E.T.A. presents The Red Shift Info T.B.A.. Saturday, October 9th - Skills trance room:, Dyloot & Tom Slik, Radley Marx, Mars & Mystre, Thomas Trouble, Happy Kids Ian & Marty, hardcore/happyhardcore room: From L.A.- , Ron D. Core, Demigod, Paulina Taylor, Plus locals - , Aspect, Simon Apex, Uphonic. 415.437.4460 510.869.4601 Saturday, October 16th - The Trance and Jungle Factory presents *****TICKLE 5!!!***** TBA. watching this space... 415.248-2669 Saturday, November 6th - Harmony TBA. More information TBA. Saturday, November 13rd - Silver Pearl Records presents Quest 2 Year Anniversary TBA . Stay tuned for details... http://www.silverpearl.com 415.273.5912 510.287.5620 408.278.5286 Saturday, November 27th - Feel Good Entertainment presents The Spirit of Giving The 3rd Annual Thanksgiving 4-day Holiday Weekend Plurity Vibe-fest Keep it Real Good with Feel Good. http://www.globalparty.com W E E K L I E S House/techno/acid jazz/jungle/ambient/etc reg'lar happenins Some of them may have ended - let me know when that happens... Thursday 4-Play - Tek-House Thursday Nights w/DJs Residents:, Jasonian (Funky Tekno Tribe), Mikkel (Plush), Fabulizz (Progress). 9pm-2am , 21+, $5. Hi - Fi Lounge. 415.527.6677 [5.6 - Tony (Gathering), Jasonian, Fabulizz] [5.13 - DJ Sneak (FTT), Fabulizz, Hector (FTT)] [5.20 - Jasonian, Fabulizz, Mikkel - Special b-day bash for Jasonian] GUANG! - Jimmy Chu, Cobie, Guest DJ appearances.. Dress code strictly enforced: No jeans, no tennis shoes, no sports attire. 21+. $8 at the door, $6 w/flyer or this email, Ladies in free b4 11:00. Club ERA, 525 Howard St., SF. 510.917.3030 the insight series - insight shows are about live electronic music that pushes the boundaries of the way we think about music w/DJs sean copper, eric hill. (*) EVERY THIRD THURSDAY of the month performances will start sometime shortly after 10pm. 9pm-, 21+. 111 minna st, SF. http://www.syncopated.net/emanate [5.20 - :\> o.s.t. - emanate / worm interface :/> kit clayton - cytrax] the Vanity party - BB Hayes (Resident) , guest djs:, Pete Avila, David Harness, ST John, Scott DC. Just off of highway 280. On the corner of Lawrence and Homestead. 9pm-2am, 21+. The BackBeat, 777 Lawrence Expressway, Santa Clara. 408.241.0177 Pitch - The underside of SF's techno/house music scene. Agressive, live musicians and dj's. w/DJs Crunch, YT, Dutch , Residents, Corey Black, Y.T., w/ special guests:, TUESday nites in March:, Freaky Chakra, Margorie & Stuart, DRC, big Nate, THURsday nites in April:, Cristina, Dutch, Ryme, Single Cell Orch., djCrunch.. ....Duck and weave.... Donation. CLUB SACRIFICE, 19th Street & South Van Ness, SF. Velvet Shop - house, jungle, hip hop, downtempo w/DJs M3, Mark Johns, guests. 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. Waves, SJ. 408.235.1556 408.235.1556 Kit Kat - house. 10pm-4am, 21+, $10. the End Up, 6th & Harrison, SF. The Cafe - house w/DJ Mathew Baker. 8pm-2am, 21+, Free. the Cafe, 2367 Market Street, SF. 415.861.3846 Passenger - excursions to global beats and rhythms 10p-2a, 21+, Free. the Skylark Lounge, 3089 16th St. @ Valencia, SF. Club Faith - Hip-Hop, House, Progressive. w/DJs Blackstone (Resident), Jay-R, Ruben Mancias (Resident), Weekly Guests. Boys/Girls, mostly bi/gay. If you have a closed mind this club will leave you behind! 9:30pm-3am, 18+, $7. Free with Flyer.. City Nights, 715 Harrison St., SF. Hi-Rise - The weekly thursday night house thing. w/DJs Seven (Resident), Sol (Resident), Peterbilt (Resident), Jin (Resident), Weekly Guests. Visuals by Visual Attack.Overloading your senses with deep underground house vibes at the coolest restaurant/bar in S.F. Free before 10pm. Dinners served until 10pm. Resurrecting the deep funk we call House. 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. Backflip, 601 Eddy, SF. [5.6 - Jeno (Wicked, Greyhound Recordings)] Atmospheric Drum & Bass - Peregrine. 8pm-11pm, . Brain Wash Cafe, 1122 Folsom St, SF. Manifesto - soul, hip hop, dub, jungle & electro with w/DJs monkey, marlo, & weekly guests.. Come on out and eat a late dinner and stick around with us for drinks and more. 9:30pm-to close, Free. ChaChaCha's located at The Original McCarthy's Bar, 2327 Mission @19th Street, SOMA. Eklektic - jungle, drum n bass w/DJ Sage (jungle/drum 'n' bass Resident). Live: Weekly guests from the Bay area + the World. 9pm-2am, 21+, $12. 78 Minna, SF. 415.332.5800 x787 Double Trouble - Romanowski , Special Guests. Live funk and hip hop. Abstract Jazz. Come inside, cuddle up to a fire, a strong drink and a hapless passerby. Drink and dancing until two a.m. $5. Storyville, 1751 Fulton St, SF. Silky...smoothe and sublime - Come listen to how the ladys lay down the funky beats w/DJs Tracy (Sister), FabuLizz (Progress), Girl Friday (Uniting Souls). Silky, the all female cast of the SF underground, will be held at Il Pirata on the third Thursday of every month. (between Potrero and Utah) Buses to party: 33 Stanyan 9 San Bruno. Email Art and decorations by: Bahar meets Angela. 9pm-2am, $3. Il Pirata, 2007 16th St, SF. 415.626.2626 The Circus - Hip-hop, Disco, Club Classics, House w/DJs Paolo Vincenti (Resident), Romero X Pinoza (Resident), Special Guests Weekly. Thursday night -this thursday, January 28th, is THE grand opening. 9:30pm-, 18+. $5 with a college ID. La Vals, 2516 Durant Ave, Berkeley. 510.595.5597 Every Thursday at the Top - Deep House spun by: w/DJs Laron, John Pickett, Dani, Robbie Hardkiss. Steven Tune and the original dues rock "we got the beats" beats for all kinds for the premillinnial mind. $3. The Top, 424 Haight St, SF. FriscoGlide - Every Thursday at the Top w/DJs John Pickett, Laron, Rotating guests as well. House Music The Top (Lower Haight), SF. Definition - Quality house music by the world's leading djs - house, techno w/DJs Markus (Resident / Kickdrum), JP (Resident / Kickdrum), Kamahele (Undertow Records). Inside Sacramento's Newest Club 'The Garage'. $5. Club 1831, 1831 19th Street, Sacramento. 916.484.4614 Techno Thursdays - house, techno w/DJs Dj Matt in the Hatt, Weekly Guests. Spinning house and techno every Thursday @ the Q Cafe. 9pm-. Q Cafe, 529 Alma, Palo Alto. 650.322.3311 Friday Deeper - Resident dj's, Laron, Ra-Soul, Laird. 917 Folsom St, SF. 415.273.1170 [5.7 - Galen, Solar (Sunset Crew) & Laird] [5.21 - Mouse (Joy/Liquid), Laird & Buck] [5.28 - Felix the Dog (Black Diamond/Psychofunkdiscodelic)] The Bassment - Bringing in Top SF and International Drum & Bass Talent every week.... w/DJ TBA.. 11pm-3am, $10. Get a Bassment Flyer, bring it and avoid the lines(via vip line) & get a $2 discount before 12am. In the Bassment of 1015 Folsom, 1015 Folsom, SF. LIFE - Life SUCKS, and then theres Friday! w/DJ Mark Farina. Cross streeet: 4th. VIP Lounge and Oyster Bar. 10pm-, 21+, $10. Big Heart City, 836 Mission. Empire - DJ Party Ben. Empire, SF's own big-beat boutique At the corner of Third. Dj Party Ben, best known for his party reports on subsonic, will spin the sounds of Fatboy Slim, Chemical Brothers, Roni Size Reprazent, Prodigy and more. empire will also occasionally feature guest appearances from world renowned DJs. 9pm-2am., . Manhattan Lounge, 699 Market Street, SF. Dance Spirit - Leslie Shill. every first and third Friday evenings in april. $10. Nautilus Health Club, 4th street, San Rafael. Nikita - house, techno w/DJs Simon (Resident), Jeno (Resident), Jerry Bonham (Resident), Kayar (Resident for the drum & bassment), Kaos (Resident for the drum & bassment), Flux (Resident for the drum & bassment), Rinse (Resident for the drum & bassment). Broadcast live on the net at www.1015.com. Downstairs, Sticks and Stones- provacateurs of Bass present Drum + Bass with Resident Dj Kayar 10pm-6am, 21+, $10. Free before 10:30 PM. 1015 Folsom St, SF. http://www.spundae.com 415.267.0568 [5.7 - Terry Mullan (Chicago)] [5.14 - Charles Feelgood (Baltimore), DB (NY)] [6.11 - legendary club from England RENAISSANCE - Dave Seamen (England), Anthony Pappa (england)] [6.18 - Paul van Dyk (Germany)] [6.25 - DJ Wada (Japan)] [7.16 - Andrew Weatherhal (England)] [7.23 - Scott Henry (Baltimore)] [7.30 - Derrick Carter (Chicago), Stacey Pullen (Detroit)] RoaM - an evening of sophisticated deep house... w/DJs Chad Mitchell, JP Soul, Dan Smith. 21+, Free. Liquid, 2925 16th St, SF. 415.289.6833 Stir-Fri-Day - happy-hour eclectic grooves served up by resident beat chefs w/DJs Jason Fluid, Shaolin, Maneesh the Twister, Plus weekly guests. 5pm-9pm, 21+. Minna St Gallery, 111 Minna St, SF. 0 415.974.1719 Bohemian Lounge - Intergalactic Funk Collages w/DJs Toph2000, rotating guests Pollywog, Manny Rosa, Charlotte the Baroness, Consuelo (Kevin). 9ish-2am, 21+, Free. the gorgeously restored McCarthy's Bar, 2327 Mission @ 19th, SF. 415.332.5800x211 (redwine) Melon - house w/DJs Dano, JZ, guests. First Friday of each month in the blue Room @ Nikita. PLEASE NOTE: MELON WILL RESUME, June 4th, 1999. 11pm-5am, 21+. 1015 Folsom, SF. http://www.redmelon.com 415.561.9215 Angel - house, tribal house, funk, modern rock, trance, progressive house, deep house, house, trip hob, soul, beats w/DJs Harry Who?, Rick Preston, Guests djs. 6 Artistic Rooms featuring Funk, Trip Hop, R&B, Soul Classics, beats Modern Rock, Trance, Progressive House, deep House and House. 9pm-2am, 21+, $10. Club Ecco, 87 North San Pedro, San Jose. http://www.clubecco.com/days.htm 408.947.1667 408.793.0328 The Davis Family Happy Hour - Local Dj Superstars, The Davis-get-down-funky-like-that-crew. Your favorite brews on tap. 3pm-7pm, 18+, Free. UCD Silo Pub, Hutchinson Drive, Davis. http://www.geocities.com/Hotsprings/Falls/2500 Launch - It'll give sump'din foer da yung;unz to doc. w/DJs Resident Djs:, BombRocker (Pure Tryb, WC), Phil-e-Cheez (Walnut Creek), Weekly guests. 18 & under (if you can pass for under 18). House, Trance, Breaks, Jungle. 7:30pm-11:00pm, 18+, Free. Walnut Creek Civic Center, Civic Park, Walnut Creek. Saturday Housepitality - like we always do about this time w/DJs in the attic:, Jonene (Stompy), Jason henry (Salivate), Dj Riddler? (resident), in the insect lounge:, Push (Future Breaks 90.3 FM), Lo-ki (Koncrete Jungle), Dj Lexxus!. Every 1st and 3rd Saturday of the Month. Join us for a night of intense house and jungle rhythms! 9pm-2am, $10. free B4 10. 415.273.5449 510.273.2493 Tek-No-Bas - techno, jungle w/DJs Stealth, Danger. Expect to hear jungle, drum and base, and techno both Detroit and European. 9pm-2am, 21+. $5 cover from 10-2. Club 1028, 1028 Geary St., SF. Pablos Sugar Shack - Pablo's Resident DJs:, John Howard, Norman Stradley, Jellybear, Miguel Migs, Rasoul, Romanowski. Big Heart City, 836 Mission Street, SF. http://www.pablos.com [4.10 - Ellen Ferrato, Miss Megan] Other Whirled - House, Techno w/DJs Nobel, Vince, Christine, Daniel, Henrik, guests. saturday morning 5:30am-3pm, 21+. the EndUp, 6th Street @ Harrison, SF. 415.208.7665 Release - House, techno, jungle, funk, trip hop, disco w/DJs Doc Martin (1st Saturday each month), Marques Wyatt (2nd Saturday), Deep Dish (3rd Saturday), Terence Toy, Julius Papp, Behrouz, Tom Thump, Ellen Ferrato, Norm, Thomas Roberts, BB Hayes, Jason Edwards, Anthony Scott, Jerry Ross, Eric Lacy, Atom, DJ D, Gianni, special guests, Martin, Bruce, DeMilo. 10pm-9am, 21+, $10. 1015 Folsom, SF. http://www.sfstation.com/clubs/release.htm 415.281.0823 [5.8 - Marques Wyatt and Ricky Morrison] [5.15 - Deep Dish] [5.29 - Farley & Heller begin their Mixer Magazine Tour] [6.12 - Marques Wyatt and Erick Morrillo] [6.19 - Deep Dish] [6.26 - CJ McIntosh] La Belle Epoque - 21st Century Drum n' Space w/DJs Mike Bee, Wish FM, Sea, guests. 10pm-2am, 21+. the Top, 424 Haight St, SF. Carry On - Underground house and garage music. w/DJ Mauricio Aviles. Cross Street: Howard. 10:30pm-4am, 21+, $8. Club Asia, 201 9th St., SF. Club Universe - Funk, House, High energy dance. w/DJ Special Guests and artists every week. 9:30pm-7am, 21+, $10. free b4 11pm. 177 Townsend, SF. 415.289.6650 FreeStyle - House and Funk w/DJs Christopher (Resident), Weekly Guests. Hosted by Mizz Ana Maronic. 21+, $5. free before 11pm. 399 9th St., SF. PUSH - house w/DJs your pushers, mouse, travis, chris orr. Matt valenz creates sonic sculpture for the dancefloor through the mediums of hi-tech deep house and technofunk. A popular underground affair attended by the city's most adventurous party people... this AIN'T the sound factory. Between Market and Mission. 9pm-2am, 21+, $7. Jessy Alley, SF. Plush - house, techno, trance, funk, trip hop, soul, beats, 70's w/DJs Resident Djs:, Thayton, Johnny, Julius Papp, Gianni (San Francisco), Scott DC (San Francisco), BBHayes, Guest from the bay area and around the world. Visuals by Jose G. Museo Contempo.Martini Bar on the Patio. Featuring the best Gin and Vodkas. Open for Happy Hour @ 5pm. No cover before 9:30pm. 4 Dance Areas featuring Funk, Trip Hop, R&B, Sould Classics, beats, 70's House, Trance Progressive House and Deep House. 21+, $10. Free before 9:30pm. Club Ecco, 87 North San Pedro, San Jose. http://www.clubecco.com/days.htm 408.947.1667 408.793.0238 Tricorder - downtempo, hiphop, electro, breakbeat w/ w/DJs marlo, monkey, flint, special guests.. Teetotling our way through the classics you've never heard before. Every 1st and 3rd Saturday Located on 24th between Mission and Valencia. 9pm-2am, 21+, $1. The Attic, 3336 24th Street, SF. http://www.shooby.com/tricorder Wicked Session One - drumnbass, ambient, hiphop w/DJs Sep (turntables), Stephen Kent (digeridoo), Peter Valsamis (percussion), Echo. "Wicked Session One" is the first in a series of upcoming nights in 1999 featuring acoustic and electronic musicians and DJS exploring the connection betwen dub, drum& bass, hip hop and ambient music. $6. Elbo Room, 647 Valencia, SF. Flikker - house w/DJs Rotating residents, Jus' Joel, dj d-paul, lee., Plus special guests.. 9pm-2am, 21+, $3. free before 10pm. Sacrifice, 800 South Van Ness @ 19th, SF. Sunday Bionic - bringing dubby dancefloor delerium and spaced out house every sunday w/DJs Solar, Mark E Quark, IZ. 10pm-2am, $3. the Top, 424 Haight, SF. Spundae - House, Techno w/DJs Carlos, David Michael, weekly guests. free b4 10:30p For 02.14.99 - 6 Year Anniversary Party! 5 elements giving you 11 decor by Ashley. 10pm-5:30am, 21+, $5. 1015 Folsom St, SF. http://www.spundae.net 415.974.9389 [5.9 - John Kelly (La)] [5.23 - DJ Dan] [5.30 - Memorial Day Weekend Special Line up coming. Stay tuned.] Leopard Lounge - Acid Jazz, Funk, Soul, Pop & Live Bands. w/DJs Jerry Ross, guests. The Hi-Fi, 2125 Lombard @ Fillmore, SF. 415.771.2583 Pleasuredome - Funk, House w/DJs Neil Lewis, guests. 21+, $8. 177 Townsend, SF. 415.985.5256 Dub Mission - SF's only dub night. The best in dubs and roots every Sunday. w/DJs I, Maneesh the Twister, Vinnie, Sep (kusf/kpfa), J.Boogie ("Beatsauce"), Ludichris, other suprises. Contact 647 Valencia @ 17th, mission. http://www.geocities.com/~dub_mission/ 415.552.7788 [5.9 - DJ SEP AND DJ JAH YZER (Reggae/Dub - DJ DANCE)] [5.16 - DJs LUDICHRIS and J.BOOGIE (Reggae/Dub - DJ DANCE)] [5.23 - DJs SEP & VINNIE] [5.30 - J BOOGIE's DUBTRONIC SCIENCE, DJ SEP, STEPHEN KENT] The Cafe - house w/DJs Mathew Baker, Jay-R. 8pm-2am, 21+, Free. the Cafe, 2367 Market Street, SF . 415.861.3846 Liquid Sundays - Beetroot, quest djs. 21+. Liquid, 2925-16th St @ S.Van Ness, SF. Cosmic Hands - drum n bass, techno, house w/DJs chris jackson, nada, leath, tomas, jaz, hak, toby, paul leath. . This is a free party which happens on the first sunday of every month. Begins 2.07.99 9pm-2am, Free. Waves, 65 Post St, SJ. Monday Movin on Up - It's a vibratory thang w/DJs marc anthony, kevin, guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. The Top, 424 Haight, SF. Noc Noc - Drum'n'bass, downtempo and electronica w/DJ Mohsen. every other Monday. 9pm-2am, 21+, Free. 557 Haight St, SF. 415.861.5811 Density - Urban Beats saturated with Drum & Bass. w/DJs Residents:, DJ Al Simmons, Noel, JBoogie, special guests. Hosted by MC Angel. Cross Street: Hayes 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. The Justice League, 628 Divisadero, SF. 415.289.2038 Monday Mood Lounge - Happy Hour Downtempo to Drum and Bass w/DJs Triadessa, guests. 4pm-, 21+, Free. 406 Clement St, SF. HouseBlends - a special brew of house w/DJs a special brew of house w/DJs, Mes, Bloom, Tune, Neil, Abdul, Conrad, Friends (Weekly Rotation). Free before 10pm. Spend Happy Hour with HouseBlends (7pm-10pm). 10pm-2am, 21+, Free. the Top, 424 Haight, SF. http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Lounge/6072/ 925.988.7447 415.273.1308 Tuesday PHUNCKTION - Drum & Bass in motion w/DJs Residents: , Noel, JUJU, plus special guest TBA. Every tues. begining April 5th, 1999 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. THE TOP, 424 Haight St, SF. http://www.sfdb.com/ 415.789.8000 x1147 Pleasure - Residents, B.B. Hayes, Mark Silva, Matt Mau, plus weekly guest djs.. Real house music for real house heads...come into San Jose and get that SF feel. 9:30pm-2am, 21+. Free before 10:30...5 bills after.. Agenda Lounge, 399 South First Street, San Jose. Pure - house w/DJs Brian Brandon, guests. 9pm-, 18+. The Rage, 1890 Arden Way, Sacramento. 916.929.0232 Static - Techno, Drum & Bass, Downtempo, Electro, Experimental.... w/DJs Dj Sifu (Resident), Joe Rice (Justice League Sound System), Tomas (Umoja), J-Bird (Sunset/Pacific), Bre Ad, Sutekh, Re Ach, Quantum 23, Tomas, Sifu, J-Bird, Safety, Scissors, Sean Murray, guests. Static offers musical alternatives to listeners and dancers who are tired of pre-pubescent ravers, New Age missionaries and club culture, in general. Admission is $5 (21 and over, please). Come check out the two, newly fattened sound systems. 10pm-2am, $5. The Cat's Club, 1190 Folsom St, SF. http://www.belief-systems.com/static 510-496.3444 Spark - drum'n'bass, downtempo, jazzstep w/DJs Seven, Sol, Massix, Jason Greer , guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. Backflip, 601 Eddy St @ Larkin, SF. 415.771.3547 [5.11 - Siren (Bassment, XLR8R), Ava (Housewares)] Spin Cycle - music of all types w/DJ guests weekly. 7:30p-midnight, All ages. CSUMB's Black Box Cabaret. http://www.cloudfactory.org/upcoming.html 831.457.7726 Tuesday nights at the Agenda - guest djs. upstairs at the agenda 21+. $5.00 after 10:30. 399 south first street, San Jose. Jive Samba - Josh Jones, Latin Jazz All Stars (Live), Chris (Electronic flavor with drum and bass), jazzy jungle. Come inside, cuddle up to a fire, a strong drink and a hapless passerby. Drink and dancing until two a.m. 21+, $5. Storyville, 1751 Fulton, SF. Core - drum & bass and beyond... w/DJs jefsta, cera, weekly guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, $2. Liquid, 2925 16th Street @ S. Van Ness, SF. http://hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~mkello01/core.html 415.790.4974 Wednesday SYNESTHESIA - Resident Djs, DUTCH, JEFF TAISCH. . - All welcome - 300 capacity - @ 19th St. One block from the 19th/Broadway BART station. 9pm-2am, All ages. $8/door-$5 w/can of food for The Floral Depot Project.. 1921 Telegraph Av., Oakland. 510.595.5555 415.339.8082 BassTrap - house, elctro, jungle, breaks - anya, cloud, swoops, thebasstrapallstars. Third wednesday of every month. Get the digs at BassTrap. 9pm-2am, 21+. http://www.3d-dynamic.com/basstrap/basstrap.html 707.524.9804 PURIFIDE - on the first wednesday of every month - tech house tekno progressive trance w/djs: w/DJs J-Bot, Gianni, M.A.C., Cloud, and guests. Purifide 9pm-2am, 21+. Anthony's, 53 Montgomery Drive, Santa Rosa. 707.571.8747 @mosphere - Josh (The Gathering, Conscious Session), Fabulizz (Progress, Silky, Conscious Session), Seven (Spark, Hi-Rise), Jason Greer (Spark), Andre. Cross Street:Fillmore. We mix up downtempo, drum-n-bass and house. Finally, good music in the Marina! Yuppies and scenesters unite! 21+, $3. Hi-Fi Lounge, 2125 Lombard. Sol (Spark) DEEP INSIDE - A deep house excursion w/ residents DJs w/DJs Taj, Josh (the Gathering), w/ weekly special guests taking it even deeper.. Every Wednesday except the 1st Wednesday of the month. This party starts 04.14.99. 10pm-4:30am, 21+, $5. Deep Inside The Bassment of 1015 Folsom , 1015 Folsom St, SF. 415.281.0544 Return of the B-Sides - Resident D.J. Solomon, guest, Solomon. Hiphop, Funk, Soul, and Dance Hall every wednesday, spinning on three turntables. Weekly drinks specials. 21+. Shattuck Bar and Grill, 2086 Allston @ shattuck, Berkeley. 510.845.7300 Come Unity - House, Techno, Ambient w/DJs Simon, Jeno, Garth, and Cosmic Jason (every other month). first Wednesday of the month. 10pm-4am, 21+, $8. 1015 Folsom, SF. 415.241.8815 Audio Alchemy - jazz, hip hop, drum & bass, latin, futuristic beats w/DJs Groove Merchant DJs, Tom Thump, Cool Chris. 7pm-, 21+. Liquid, 2925 16th St @ So.Van Ness, SF. qoöl - a pan-techno lounge w/DJs Spesh, Gil, Hyper D, top notch guests. Visuals by Hyperdelic.qoöl is now in it's 3rd year of celebrating dj culture at happy hour. each wednesday we gather to hear no less than 4 djs pump nothing but the qoöl est techno. in 1999, we hope to bring you more of the same awesome vibe, more superskilled spinners, more visual artistry, and more great tasting beer! lastly, qoöl will remain free in 1999 - w/ qoöl card 5pm-9pm, Free. 111 Minna St, SF. http://www.looq.com/qool Audible Colors - house, jungle, techno w/DJ guests weekly. 21+, $3. the Top, 424 Haight St, SF. 415.522.2343 Seance - Its a spiritual thang w/DJs local guests weekly, DJs Martel, Nabiel, Franky. Tarot readers, belly dancers, henna tattoo artists and authentic egyptian tapestries. Séance is an ethereal alternative with belly dancers, Tarot Card Readers and Henna tattoo artists. For dinner reservations call 771-3547. 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. Backflip, 601 Eddy @ Polk, SF. http://sfstation.com/clubs/seance.htm 415.281.0823 Wednesdays at Club Ecco - house, techno, trance w/DJs Danny (Resident), Ellen Ferrato, David Harness, Blackstone, Pete Avila. Wednesday is a fantastic gay club night at Club Ecco. All the great house hits hits in the San Pedro Room. Door s open for Happy Hour @ 5pm. 5pm-, 21+, $5. No cover before 9:30. Club Ecco, 87 North San Pedro, San Jose. 408.947.1667 Dubphonik - Mr. Brown. Come inside, cuddle up to a fire, a strong drink and a hapless passerby. Drink and dancing until two a.m. $5. Storyville, 1751 Fulton, SF. _________________________________________________________________ Info Lines * Harmony Party Line - 408-486-9591 * Be-At Info Line - 415-626-4087. Usually has 5-10 listings, updated daily. * the Buzz-line, a global party network - 650.569.3300 * Clubline - 415.339.8686 * Frequency 8 Trance/Techno infoline - 415.541.5019 * The Groove Line - 415.331.1500 ext.4788 * Mixology-Music (north bay) - 707.526.1230 * Housewares Rave Line - 415.281.0125 * V.O.R.G. info - 415.750.3100 _________________________________________________________________ Radio/TV/Net Shows * Sunday-Sunday, 24 hours, 7 days a week, "Technostate" spins live with the dopest underground bay area dj's and work very hard at it! For more info see Technostate Website * Sunday 12noon - until we drop. "House Before The World". Live netcasts every Sunday at boyandhisdog.simplenet.com We broadcast deep house and garage for all who live and love it. :) Our resident Djs are bvdub and vincent kwok from San Francisco, and we feature guests as well. * Sunday, 2pm (((THUMP))) Radio presents Music for the New Millenium on 90.3fm KUSF. Global and local DJs/musicians playing trance, techno, DnB, house, and everything in between! Set-lists and interviews on http://www.thump-radio.com * Sunday Night at 8pm - "Threshold" on Raveworld.net, A audio show featuring world class drum 'n' bass and Jungle Djs. * Sunday night 11pm-2am - "The Dreaming/Innermind Show" w/DJ Miracle & Mr. Monchichi. House, Jungle, Trip-Hop, Ambient, Dub, Break-Beats & guest DJs. KSCU 103.3 (Santa Clara) * Sunday night midnight-1am - "Shortwave" - Electronic music in all of its guises. KALX, 90.7 FM (Berkeley) * Sunday night 10pm-2am - "Jazzadelica" w/ Rocky Rococo. Exploring the groove: from jazz, funk and soul to world beat and all types of underground clubs. KFJC 89.7 (Los Altos Hills) * Monday - Friday 10pm - 2am ''World House Groove'' on www.nwez.net -- a LIVE show dedicated to these sounds of the underground..... Dj Kjel is your host and dj for the show incorporating the music styles of house, acid jazz, trance, trip hop, drum & bass, ambient, and the collages of variations in between....... also, guest djs drop by to tunes and there's a live chatroom to talk w/ the djs themselves ........... Listen & watch World House Groove. * Monday night 9:30pm-midnight - "The Autobahn" w/dj Sutekh. Man and machine made music. KALX 90.7 (Berkeley) * Monday 12 til 4 - "Three*Sixty Radio". Beta Lounge. * Mondays at 11:00 PM PST - "Krom" on Raveworld.net Featuring World Class Djs like Dj Sneak and Doc Martin * Every Other Mon Nite, 10pm-Midnite: _*TeK-IndUced EuPHoriA*_ <<>> 90.3FM KDVS, Davis http://drxeno.cjb.net * Every Tuesday from 1 to 3pm - Trance, techno, breaks and jungle with "the underground with the secret asian man" - available on real audio @ ksfs.sfsu.edu Call ins, requests, and chances to win free gifts and passes to shows are always available, just stay tuned.... need more info? please email me at leopimp44@aol.com * Tuesday night 9pm-11:00pm - "Conscious Groove" - ambientdowntempojunglehousetrancedrumnbasstriphop spun by weekly guest DJs. Hosted by Stephanie aka Miss fat slice. Free Radio Berkeley on the internet - www.freeradio.org * Tuesday night 9pm-mid Pacific - "An Epiphany of Sound" hosted by J.C. The best in beats to satiate your inner child. Electronic dance, noise, spoken word, world music and more. Also available in RealAudio @ Epiphany of Sound Real Audio Also available: Humour List Archive Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of KZSU Radio or Stanford University. KZSU 90.1 (Stanford) * Wednesday 3am-6am - "Nothing Short of Total War" w/Fathertime. Electronic musik of all kinds, interspersed with spoken word poetry and other various readings. KSCU 101.3 (Santa Clara/San Jose) * radio M.U.T.A.N.T. - live experimental techno and dj's playing all styles of underground music. spaz * Wednesday night 9pm-11pm - free form music mix. KPFA 94.1 (Berkeley) * Wednesday night - "the Power of Sound" with Leslie. A 3 hour excursion into the best music from the regions where minds meet between the heavans and the earth. KAZU 90.3 (Monterey Bay Community Radio) * Thursday Mornings 12:30am - 3:00am (Wednesday nights) "The Metallic Blurp" - strictly drum and bass with nman and guests on KZSC, Santa Cruz 88.1FM * Thursday morning 5am-7am - A postmodern Garrison Keillor on crack, DJ Boomerang Fidget spins hilarious tales of backwoods meth labs, urban decay and redneck ravers; all with a social conscience. Also, ambient & techno. Free Radio Berkeley 104.1 (Berkeley) * Thursday Morning 6-9am - "GYNA" Resident Djs buttek and maytag in a live 3 hour mix format bringin the latest UK and stateside rekkids...Guest djs coming include DJ Poop (Sf) next week, also be on the lookout for spots by DJ SIFU, Hak, and Sipon. For requests, rewinds, or anything else, call (408) 554-5728 or email thegyna * "Back To Babylon" - House extravaganza with DJ Sneak and Doc Martin. see Raveworld.net * Thursday morning 10am-2pm - "The Further Adventures of Aardvark" - trip-hop to experimental to ambient to gabba etc, etc. KSJS 90.5 (San Jose). * Thursday 7pm-11pm - The Beta Lounge - Live on the net - electronic music and culture, worldwide. http://www.betalounge.com/ * Friday 12pm-4pm - weekly DJ netcasts. x-radio. * Friday 3pm-6pm - free form music mix. KUSF 90.3 (SF) (also available on Realaudio * Friday 9:30am-noon - Snappy the Aligator plays deep groove music that dips into cool electronic sounds, classic soul, reggae & more. KALX, 90.7 FM (Berkeley) * Fridays 8pm PST - Freak City on Raveworld.net the definitive show on dance cultures. Featuring artists like Paul Van Dyk, Jason Bentley, Air and best of 1998 (Carl Cox, Josh Wink, Moontribe, Spundae, Burning Man * Fridays 9pm-midnight - Andrew from Groove Merchant spins on KUSF 90.3 (SF) * Friday night/Saturday morning - midnight-noon. House/techno mix with Johnny K, Ozone & guests - KCSS 91.9 Central Valley (Turlock) * Friday night/Saturday morning - "Just Desserts" w/Mr.Goodwrench - 10pm-2am Jungle, Detroit, Techno, Acid House, whacked-out Dub, and noise KFJC 89.7 - Los Altos Hills * Friday night 1am-4am - "House Nation" w/"Anthems Mix", with residents and hosts david garcia, st john along with joey mazzola and dj doubt. David garcia and joey mazzola are resident djs at the SKYLOUNGE located at 525 harrison st. along with rotating djs bb hayes and demilo. 1am-4am, WILD 94.9 SF. * Friday night - Moondance. Ambient; 3am-7:30am, KUSF 90.3 SF. * Saturday morning - 12:30am-3am - "Under a Groove" with DJ CK featuring the deepest house grooves, downtempo cuts, and melodic drum and bass tunes. KZSC 88.1 FM, Santa Cruz. * Saturday afternoon - "Bus Stop" - music and talk w/guest DJs from SF and beyond. 2pm-3pm. KUSF 90.3 SF. * Saturday night 11pm - Flux Television, Viacom Channel 53 - Ambient, acid jazz and house music videos & interviews. (415) 281-3377. flux@flux.net * (every other) Saturday night 10p-12:30a - "1984" w/DJ Richtoffen. House, Trance and German rave. 90.1 (Chico) * Saturday night - "amp" 1am. MTV. * Saturday night - "Subsonic". 1am-6am, KITS 105.3 SF. * Saturday night - "House Nation" w/"Anthems Mix", Top 10s from guest DJs and "London Connection w/DJ Doubt". 2am-4am, WILD 94.9 SF. * Ambiance Magazine - 9:30p weds-sun PNC Cable 2 (Modesto & Oakdale), 9p fri & sat, marcus cable ch 9 (ceres & turlock). * Saturday night/Sunday morning - 10pm - 3am, Aaron Axelson, Live 105.3 _________________________________________________________________ For a search interface to the calendar, see the Late Train club section (http://www.latetrain.com/clubs/). _________________________________________________________________ Administrative Notes If anyone has info on any other events, send it to me! I can't possibly hope to get all the info every week. This info gets sent via email every Thursday. 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Karina Powers - karina@hyperreal.org From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 14:24:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4003 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 14:24:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 3898 invoked by uid 233); 7 May 1999 14:24:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 22314 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 06:59:23 -0000 Received: from law-f136.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.199) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 06:59:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 50405 invoked by uid 0); 7 May 1999 06:58:56 -0000 Message-ID: <19990507065856.50404.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.170.187.226 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 06 May 1999 23:58:56 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.170.187.226] From: "michael waldren" To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: What raving means (on the navysatan tip) Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 23:58:56 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Trice wrote... . > What worries me is the people that for years laughed at what I was >doing >and the scene and told me how stupid I was are now coming to parties and >taking E and all of a sudden they're my best friend. THey "GET IT". But I >really think they don't. > Somewhere you develop a passion for what you're doing otherwise you >wouldn't still be here. I totally agree with the majority of what you are saying,but i consider myself to be a new school p-kid (7 months now) and i still cannot shake the attitude and the plasticness of the old schoolers. I mean it is like we can never amount to their level because they are the ones who introduced us. Whats funny is that i find myself surpassing some of the supposed Old School kids in now how and their egos are just to big to shake. I know everyone wants to be this incredible trend setter and everyone wants to be Anti, but i dont think that is what we as ravers should represent. I myself try to enlighten everyone that i can, and a new head is always considered welcome. Dont you old schoolers remember the time when you wanted to be accepted. And 90% of the outside world will never understand, but you know what, it most certainly isnt my place to judge them. Because i used to be on the outside looking in. And i used to think to myself, "My god i hope i never look, act , or sound like that." But thanx to the support and warmth of people i consider good friends, i can now call myself a raver. >::tears:: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5363 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 14:26:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 5350 invoked by uid 233); 7 May 1999 14:26:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 29382 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 07:26:52 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 07:26:52 -0000 Received: from WOO1121@aol.com (3699) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iJYEa02301; Fri, 7 May 1999 03:25:31 -0400 (EDT) From: WOO1121@aol.com Message-ID: <8dc36df3.2463ef6a@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 03:25:30 EDT Subject: Re: Metropolis To: chocolate976@hotmail.com, BigM009@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/6/99 7:40:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, chocolate976@hotmail.com writes: << 90% of us are now your enemy and if i ever do find out who you are i will not be afraid to punk your poser ass. >> Ya Paul make that 99% i'll punk you too hahahahahaha Mikey can you please calm down Sheeesh! talk about hostility. Love you Paul even if you you post that i am a man *Amanda Kung Pow From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 15:17:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5464 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 15:17:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 5454 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 15:17:33 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 15:17:33 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (8033) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vMVTa04196 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 11:16:49 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 11:16:48 EDT Subject: Re: What raving means (on the navysatan tip) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This sounds like a challenge. Old School VS New School. Im down. Old Schoolers are you with me? Stay tuned for an up coming event for this. Peace, M Groove On From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 15:52:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1741 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 15:52:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 1731 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 15:52:26 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 15:52:26 -0000 Received: from user (access-50-217.ixpres.com [209.75.50.217]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA21343; Fri, 7 May 1999 08:52:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990507084818.006be52c@mail.ixpres.com> X-Sender: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 08:48:18 -0700 To: BigM009@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: Re: What raving means (on the navysatan tip) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk YEAH! that's too funny, can u just see it in celebrity deathmatch form? In one corner a weird oldskooler wearing big overalls and a big-ass hat and white mickey gloves and blowing a whistle & in the other corner some crazy newskooler wearing big jeans, suckin on a blowpop/candy necklace, w/ some oversized gloves.....gee, except, which ones which? I'd rather it be me vs. that dumb reporter chick from the fox network or any damn media personnel who's been "exposeing" us for the last 9 years! hey M, I'm w/ ya! let's have a dance-off!!! :-)))))) 'Cept there's this newfangled thing called liquiding that you and I might get our asses kicked in--maybe we should just stand to the side and SHUFFLE (OMG)!!! hahahahahaaah luv & gruve, madhvi At 11:16 AM 5/7/99 EDT, BigM009@aol.com wrote: >This sounds like a challenge. Old School VS New School. Im down. Old >Schoolers are you with me? Stay tuned for an up coming event for this. >Peace, M > >Groove On > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 15:57:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4158 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 15:56:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 4130 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 15:56:52 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 15:56:52 -0000 Received: from user (access-50-217.ixpres.com [209.75.50.217]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA22056; Fri, 7 May 1999 08:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990507085244.006c4a48@mail.ixpres.com> X-Sender: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 08:52:44 -0700 To: terry estioko , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: Re: sorry about that In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yeah, sorry bout that too. and to all who're still wondering what the answer to PlurDealer's question "what's a madhvi?", stay tuned as the rapturous yet sinsiter story unfolds.....hee hee --madhvi At 05:21 PM 5/6/99 -0700, terry estioko wrote: >I didn't mean for those private posts to go through to the list. I'm >allowed to screw up once in a while, right? > >a thousand humble apologies. > >-terry > >------------------------------------ >terry estioko | terry@viberation.com >http://www.viberation.com/terry > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 15:58:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6790 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 15:58:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 6585 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 15:58:04 -0000 Received: from web801.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.61) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 15:58:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19990507160243.17905.rocketmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web801.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 07 May 1999 09:02:43 PDT Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 09:02:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: BSP: synthetic! south bay rave madness To: dj _haK , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk oh my goooooodness!!!! thats all. :) --- dj _haK wrote: > > SYNTHETIC! mondays starting june 7th > > residents: > jungle: hak, symplex, siphon, hannibal selecta > techno: chris jackson, andy w, mattski > trance: keith edwards, skyscraper, odeci > > guests: > june 7th > jungle: gamekat (xlr8r) > techno: jon williams (organized noise) > trance: mystre (f-8), dyloot (skillz, f-8) > > june 14th > jungle: rinse (bass cru, compound) > techno: kit clayton > trance: thomas trouble (t&j factory) > > > 21+, located @ ecco, 3$ b4 10.pm, 5$ after. > > every week expect guest from all over the bay and > kali, droppin essential > rave choons and uplifting beats and deadly sub-bass. > > more info on the full colour flyer comming > soon....... > > > > hak > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 16:07:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13749 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 16:07:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 13724 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 16:07:10 -0000 Received: from web806.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 16:07:10 -0000 Message-ID: <19990507160523.3040.rocketmail@web806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web806.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 07 May 1999 09:05:23 PDT Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 09:05:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: 5.30.99 junglist in the south bay!!! To: dj _haK , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk is anyone in the southbay freakin out like i am???? HELLO! --- dj _haK wrote: > from 2.pm till 2.am @ ecco. five rooms of sound, but > here is the jungle room > line up. more info to come. > > symplex > siphon > honey b > sifu > R.A.W. > siren > sage > ufo > hak > > this happens only once in a millenium. come check it > out! > hak > ps. colour flyers out this weekend > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 16:18:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24300 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 16:18:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 24282 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 16:18:06 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd101.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.165) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 16:18:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 1998 invoked by uid 0); 7 May 1999 16:18:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19990507161820.1997.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 130.65.111.89 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 07 May 1999 09:18:20 PDT X-Originating-IP: [130.65.111.89] From: "David Ramirez" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 5.30.99 junglist in the south bay!!! Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 09:18:20 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk this 21+ rite?? (please say it ain't).. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "dj _haK" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: 5.30.99 junglist in the south bay!!! Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 17:00:57 PDT MIME-Version: 1.0 From sfraves-owner-raver_hp Thu May 06 17:19:40 1999 Received: from [209.133.83.16] by hotmail.com (1.5) with SMTP id MHotMailB8FB7C9C009BD101707BD185531012F20; Thu May 06 17:19:40 1999 Received: (qmail 4026 invoked by uid 6000); 6 May 1999 23:59:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 3744 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 23:59:04 -0000 Received: from wya-oe8.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 May 1999 23:59:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 9732 invoked by uid 0); 7 May 1999 00:00:57 -0000 Message-ID: <19990507000057.9731.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 153.37.197.117 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP;Thu, 06 May 1999 17:00:57 PDT X-Originating-IP: [153.37.197.117] Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk from 2.pm till 2.am @ ecco. five rooms of sound, but here is the jungle room line up. more info to come. symplex siphon honey b sifu R.A.W. siren sage ufo hak this happens only once in a millenium. come check it out! hak ps. colour flyers out this weekend From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 16:27:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1632 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 16:27:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 1478 invoked by uid 233); 7 May 1999 16:27:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 4589 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 15:57:08 -0000 Received: from mail-q1.pcmagic.net (206.117.211.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 15:57:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 27827 invoked by uid 3301); 7 May 1999 08:57:05 -0700 Received: from ppp-206-117-27-70.dialup.pcmagic.net (HELO tweaker) (206.117.27.70) by mail-q1.pcmagic.net with SMTP; 7 May 1999 08:57:05 -0700 Message-ID: <01dc01be98a2$40fe8ae0$5f1b75ce@tweaker> From: "THE Web-monchichi" To: "Northwest Raves" , "Trance List" , "Socal Raves Mailing List" , "SF Raves" , "San Diego Raves" , "Ravelinks" , "Planet 9" Subject: Harmony 3 - June 5th 1999 Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 08:57:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk * * * * * * * * * Harmony 3 - Underground Source 5 year Anniversary * * * * * * * * * Area 1 Techno/Trance: Dave Ralph (The Argonauts/Perfecto/Cream - UK) Dave the Drummer (Stay Up Forever/Smitten - UK) Chris Fortier (Fade/Limbo - Orlando, FL) Thee-O (Biohazard) Tony Gamboa on 3 decks (Biohazard) Guido on 3 decks (Biohazard/Delphi/Higher Source) Friction (Cosmic Records - Orlando, FL) Area 2 Jungle/HHC: Aphrodite (Aphrodite/Urban Takeover Recordings - UK) Brisk (Next Generation - UK) Paulina Taylor (H3/Hypersound) x Simon Apex (H3/Subsonic Underground) w/ MC Stylee (H4B / H3 - AZ) Dutchboy (H3) Dieselboy (611 - Pittsburgh, PA) with MC Dub 2 (Philadelphia, PA) Deacon (Wreckignition) Heretic (119 Cru) Area 3 Breaks/House: Bahamut aka Chris Rayce (Swell, Flavored Beats, Chunk & Hoodwink Records - Denver, CO) x Rhee (Flagstaff, AZ) Spice x Friction (Cosmic Records - Orlando, FL) DJ Ghost x Frank Nitty (Ghost Tribe - SF) Hipp-E (Funky Tekno Tribe - San Diego) Barry Weaver (Funky Tekno Tribe - Portland, OR) Flite (Biohazard) Omar (Biohazard) Area 4: Our 4th area will be held outdoors from 8-1am. We feature in this are our first annual up and coming dj showcase: we are welcoming all up and coming dj's who are pre-sale ticket holders to participate. the following rules apply : you must purchase (1) pre sale ticket at higher source records and gear, when you purchase your ticket you must submit a 60-90 min mixtape that displays your dj'ing skills (make sure with the tape you include your name, phone numbers, e-mail address and track listing), please leave that tape at the entry box available at Higher Source records. all contest winners will be notified via telephone the day before the event. 5-6 people will be chosen to play sets that range from 40-45 minutes long and no paying dj's are allowed to enter. you will be judged the night of harmony 3 and all contestants will receive prizes provided by higher source records and gear. please purchase your ticket and submit tape no later than may 29, 1999. ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Harmony 3 will take place on 6-5-99 harmony 3 features in all indoor areas an intense sound system to make your heart thump and intelligent lighting provided none other than the Almighty Shredder; mind boggling10-watt argon laser show by Laseronyx and 6 amazing full-sized visual-projection screens by Create-A-Vision. harmony 3 exclusive mix tape give aways for the first 300 to arrive ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: info lines: 213-694-0190 | 714-937-3193 | 909-789-2103 | 619-635-9704 | 702-796-4644 (Las Vegas) | 303-607-PLUR (Denver) 213-630-3063 Underground Source Check out http://happy.hardcorps.org/h3/Harmony for more info, dj profiles, and presale outlets From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 16:34:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5534 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 16:33:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 5394 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 16:33:55 -0000 Received: from web114.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.86) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 16:33:55 -0000 Message-ID: <19990507163711.5238.rocketmail@web114.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web114.yahoomail.com; Fri, 07 May 1999 09:37:11 PDT Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 09:37:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: 5.30.99 junglist in the south bay!!! To: Jess ica , dj _haK , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk How about SOUTH of southbay. ;) Hi Jess. =Þ *HUGZ* pat --- Jess ica wrote: > is anyone in the southbay freakin out like i am???? > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 17:08:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29161 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 17:08:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 29026 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 17:08:02 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 17:08:02 -0000 Received: from Kitana3737@aol.com (317) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vAQSa02293; Fri, 7 May 1999 13:06:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Kitana3737@aol.com Message-ID: <3b12c08.246477b2@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:06:58 EDT Subject: Re: Too Many Way Too Opinionated People...Embrace the Differences To: erave@xoommail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/7/99 2:14:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, erave@xoommail.com writes: << Now, I still get people who look @ me weird when I wear a blow up backpack or some candy, but I stand my ground. >> *hi-five* matthewwwwww!! i have a blow up backpack tOo..!! and its red... what color is yours!? :) and on a more serious note.... i relate with your struggle for standing out... or its not so much a struggle for yourself but i relate to the conflict you see between those who do what they feel and those who go along with what they see. not everyone can be as strong.... although i think underneath they have the same craving for individuality.... only they don`t let it grow... hmmm.. but i think "fitting in" is an inherently human desire. i think it goes along with how we learn and organize the chaos in our every day lives.... we fit new information into "schemas" or molds already existing in our minds.... and with each new piece of information, we have to accomodate that schema so that it can also fit the new piece of 411.... but in that system of learning [here`s my pyschology class paying off, yeah? :P] in that way of organizing things into little forms.... is our distaste for things that don`t fit, and our eagerness to shun what does not "fit in." i dunno that`s my opinion. what do you think? muchlove, ~*MiCheLLe*~ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 17:10:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1684 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 17:10:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 1673 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 17:10:23 -0000 Received: from f127.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 17:10:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 67515 invoked by uid 0); 7 May 1999 17:08:48 -0000 Message-ID: <19990507170848.67514.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.171.134.229 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 07 May 1999 10:08:48 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.171.134.229] From: "Beetle Juice" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Need Help!!!!!!!!! Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 10:08:48 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi out there!! Hate to interrupt all the negativity but I was wondering if anyone in cyberspace would be so gracious as to help me with a couple problems of mine. 1) How much does it cost to get million dollar liability insurance for a party and who or were do you call to get it? 2 Does anyone know of a reasonably priced graphics designer or printer. Best deal so far is 10,000 4x5 cards for $900 or 2000 4x5 cards for $500. (In full color) Any and all information, advise or help is welcomed. E.L.E. (everybody love everybody) Beetle Juice A WISE MAN ONCE SAID: Don't count your eggs before they hatched. Because sometimes the worm eats the fish. TRUE FACTS: Money does talk. It always tell me I'm broke. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 17:12:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2691 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 17:12:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 2682 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 17:12:00 -0000 Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.49) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 17:12:00 -0000 Received: from [209.179.158.160] (pool160-cvx.ds55-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.158.160]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29795 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 10:11:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: radley@mail.elemental.nu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 10:12:35 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Radley Marx Subject: Harmony 3 - June 5th 1999 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk gee whiz Greg, aren't you playing at your own party? *wink* > >* * * * * * * * * Harmony 3 - Underground Source 5 year Anniversary * * * * >* * * * * > >Area 1 Techno/Trance: >Dave Ralph (The Argonauts/Perfecto/Cream - UK) >Dave the Drummer (Stay Up Forever/Smitten - UK) >Chris Fortier (Fade/Limbo - Orlando, FL) >Thee-O (Biohazard) >Tony Gamboa on 3 decks (Biohazard) >Guido on 3 decks (Biohazard/Delphi/Higher Source) >Friction (Cosmic Records - Orlando, FL) > >Area 2 Jungle/HHC: >Aphrodite (Aphrodite/Urban Takeover Recordings - UK) >Brisk (Next Generation - UK) >Paulina Taylor (H3/Hypersound) x Simon Apex (H3/Subsonic Underground) w/ MC >Stylee (H4B / H3 - AZ) >Dutchboy (H3) >Dieselboy (611 - Pittsburgh, PA) with MC Dub 2 (Philadelphia, PA) >Deacon (Wreckignition) >Heretic (119 Cru) > >Area 3 Breaks/House: >Bahamut aka Chris Rayce (Swell, Flavored Beats, Chunk & Hoodwink Records - >Denver, CO) x Rhee (Flagstaff, AZ) >Spice x Friction (Cosmic Records - Orlando, FL) >DJ Ghost x Frank Nitty (Ghost Tribe - SF) >Hipp-E (Funky Tekno Tribe - San Diego) >Barry Weaver (Funky Tekno Tribe - Portland, OR) >Flite (Biohazard) >Omar (Biohazard) > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 17:13:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5669 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 17:13:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 5634 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 17:13:35 -0000 Received: from web804.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 17:13:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19990507171831.5679.rocketmail@web804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.99] by web804.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 07 May 1999 10:18:31 PDT Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 10:18:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: Need Help!!!!!!!!! To: Beetle Juice , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >TRUE FACTS:Money does talk. It always tell me I'm >broke. More True Facts: Expenses are very expensive If everything was free, we could definitely afford it! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 17:21:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9762 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 17:21:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 9720 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 17:20:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 17:20:57 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 83; Fri, 7 May 1999 10:18:24 -0700 Message-ID: <373320F1.B7F5CE27@hrg.com> Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 10:20:49 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Beetle Juice CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Need Help!!!!!!!!! References: <19990507170848.67514.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 1) about $700. almost any insurance brokerage 2) Post Script Press in the east bay...10,000 3 by 4 for 300...also try NOMAD in the city. You shouldnt have to spend more than 400 for 10,000 4 by 5s hope this helps john r Beetle Juice wrote: > Hi out there!! Hate to interrupt all the negativity but I was wondering > if anyone in cyberspace would be so gracious as to help me with a couple > problems of mine. > > 1) How much does it cost to get million dollar liability insurance for a > party and who or were do you call to get it? > > 2 Does anyone know of a reasonably priced graphics designer or printer. > Best deal so far is 10,000 4x5 cards for $900 or 2000 4x5 cards for $500. > (In full color) > > Any and all information, advise or help is welcomed. > > E.L.E. (everybody love everybody) > Beetle Juice > > A WISE MAN ONCE SAID: > > Don't count your eggs before they hatched. Because sometimes the worm eats > the fish. > > TRUE FACTS: > > Money does talk. It always tell me I'm broke. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 17:23:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12992 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 17:23:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 12972 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 17:23:15 -0000 Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.62) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 17:23:14 -0000 Received: from [209.179.158.160] (pool160-cvx.ds55-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.158.160]) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18767 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 10:23:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: radley@mail.elemental.nu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 10:23:47 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Radley Marx Subject: bigga bee essa pee - Skills day party on Sat. Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This issa me-a justa lettin you knowa thata there izza little bigga party inna Golden Gate Park tomorrow froma the Skillsa team-ah. (groan!) Alright, big free party in the park: TOMORROW! SATURDAY! DAYTIME! (got it yet?) ALL DAY LONG! (actually from around noon to 7) with local DJs Dyloot Tom Slik Mars Mystre and me... (I'm opening, bah!) Where: at the BANDSHELL! (in the middle of the museums) where's that? try here for a map--> http://www.elemental.nu/skills 415.437.4460 510.869.4601 The Bottom Line: Is this a big risk for the Mother City to handle? Can San Francisco handle more parties in the park? Can ravers dance during the daytime? Can I match beats this time? All these questions WILL be answered... TOMORROW! -radley (Ha! I kill me!) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 17:34:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20687 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 17:34:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 20496 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 17:34:32 -0000 Received: from ewey-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO ewey.excite.com) (198.3.99.191) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 17:34:32 -0000 Received: from bucky.excite.com ([199.172.152.80]) by ewey.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990507173421.DALG19585.ewey@bucky.excite.com> for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 10:34:21 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: barefoot dancin' Message-Id: <926098446.10342.312@excite.com> Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 10:34:06 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk someone said... can you imagine dancing barefoot at 2nd & Jackson??? at the Harmony Spring FLower Fest, one of my best friends Eddie was down from Seattle... and he hadn't partied hard for years.... and got a bit crazy, and at some point his feet started to be unbearably hot... so he took off his shoes and socks !!! now, by the time i knew this... since i was working the line for so long and then was exhausted and hiding out with terry watching him play with his computer stuff... by the time i saw him, it was morning, he was FILTHY and he couldn't find his shoes ANYWHERE... and i'm thinking, what kind of weird mofo would steal someone's dirty-assed sneakers.... but then we found that some of the laser guys had stashed them away to keep 'em safe... which was esp good, because i wouldn't have let eddie into my car with those nasty bare feet, so thank god he got his shoes back... god knows the longterm effects of that raver grunge ground into one's feet, don't even wanna think about it! i think he had to throw out his khaki pants from the raver grunge... i like barefoot dancing on the playa at burning man (though that dust will dry you out so fast your feet will bleed!)... or maybe on thick lush grass... or a sandy beach in the yucatan under the starlight all by myself with my walkman (oooohhh that was nice!) .... but for the most part, i don't want to have to think about what i might be stepping in with bare feet when i'm dancing! leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 17:42:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26395 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 17:42:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 26383 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 17:42:29 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 17:42:29 -0000 Received: from user (access-50-19.ixpres.com [209.75.50.19]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA39644 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 10:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990507103828.006bff70@mail.ixpres.com> X-Sender: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 10:38:28 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: sfraves calendar In-Reply-To: <19990507065856.50404.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey, did anyone else have a hard time opening this week's calendar??? --madhvi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 17:49:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 217 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 17:49:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 174 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 17:49:23 -0000 Received: from web808.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 17:49:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19990507175203.8075.rocketmail@web808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.99] by web808.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 07 May 1999 10:52:03 PDT Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 10:52:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: barefoot dancin' To: leslie.ayres@excite.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ummmm a little embarassed to admit it... i danced at Harmony with no shoes, i went to epiphany that day and forgot to wear socks, when i got to harmony i put on my metallic blue doc boots with no socks!!! It was so gross to wear those slippery boots with no socks, so i took them off! I bet people were trippin out when they sat down next to a pair of blue docs just chillin... jess --- leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > someone said... can you imagine dancing barefoot at > 2nd & Jackson??? > > at the Harmony Spring FLower Fest, one of my best > friends Eddie was down > from Seattle... and he hadn't partied hard for > years.... and got a bit > crazy, and at some point his feet started to be > unbearably hot... so he > took off his shoes and socks !!! > > now, by the time i knew this... since i was working > the line for so long and > then was exhausted and hiding out with terry > watching him play with his > computer stuff... by the time i saw him, it was > morning, he was FILTHY and > he couldn't find his shoes ANYWHERE... > > and i'm thinking, what kind of weird mofo would > steal someone's dirty-assed > sneakers.... but then we found that some of the > laser guys had stashed them > away to keep 'em safe... > > which was esp good, because i wouldn't have let > eddie into my car with those > nasty bare feet, so thank god he got his shoes > back... god knows the > longterm effects of that raver grunge ground into > one's feet, don't even > wanna think about it! i think he had to throw out > his khaki pants from the > raver grunge... > > i like barefoot dancing on the playa at burning man > (though that dust will > dry you out so fast your feet will bleed!)... or > maybe on thick lush > grass... or a sandy beach in the yucatan under the > starlight all by myself > with my walkman (oooohhh that was nice!) .... but > for the most part, i don't > want to have to think about what i might be stepping > in with bare feet when > i'm dancing! > > leslie > > > > > Get your free, private email at > http://mail.excite.com/ > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 17:53:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4978 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 17:53:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 4855 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 17:53:00 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 17:53:00 -0000 Received: from user (access-50-19.ixpres.com [209.75.50.19]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA41344; Fri, 7 May 1999 10:53:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990507104856.006cb58c@mail.ixpres.com> X-Sender: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 10:48:56 -0700 To: leslie.ayres@excite.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: Re: barefoot dancin' In-Reply-To: <926098446.10342.312@excite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 10:34 AM 5/7/99 PDT, leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: >someone said... can you imagine dancing barefoot at 2nd & Jackson??? > > Well, here's what's yuck...i went to go see barry weaver spin @ a club down here in san diego, but unfortunately, i'd picked that nite to wear these HIGH-ASS platforms that i'd just gotten for 6 bucks. I couldn't dance in them, all i could do is stand there and look slick, so i got pissed and took them off and started dancing. Stupid, yes i know, but i can't BEAR to hear good muzik and not dance....so, thru the nite, i stepped on glass and other tiny little sharp objects and my feet got cutz and bleedz AND a security guard kept coming by to make me put my shoes on. Now that was a regrettable nite. So from now on if i ever have the frivolous urge to choose fashion over dance comfort, i think back to that nite and/or keep a pair of spare sneakers in the car!! :-) --luv, luff, and LOVE madhvi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 18:15:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16649 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 18:15:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 16404 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 18:15:00 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 18:15:00 -0000 Received: from Macias20@aol.com (4419) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vXWNa07564 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 14:13:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Macias20@aol.com Message-ID: <57a3d3ef.24648741@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 14:13:21 EDT Subject: ECCO To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ::searching frantically for her fake id:: I knew that would come in handy one day YYYYYYAAAAAYYYYY!!!!!!!!! hee hee see ya there...Valerie AKA sPaRklEs dj _haK wrote: > > SYNTHETIC! mondays starting june 7th > > residents: > jungle: hak, symplex, siphon, hannibal selecta > techno: chris jackson, andy w, mattski > trance: keith edwards, skyscraper, odeci > > guests: > june 7th > jungle: gamekat (xlr8r) > techno: jon williams (organized noise) > trance: mystre (f-8), dyloot (skillz, f-8) > > june 14th > jungle: rinse (bass cru, compound) > techno: kit clayton > trance: thomas trouble (t&j factory) > > > 21+, located @ ecco, 3$ b4 10.pm, 5$ after. > > every week expect guest from all over the bay and > kali, droppin essential > rave choons and uplifting beats and deadly sub-bass. > > more info on the full colour flyer comming > soon....... > > > > hak > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 18:19:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19651 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 18:19:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 19530 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 18:19:32 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 18:19:32 -0000 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.9.3/8.8.4) id LAA08996; Fri, 7 May 1999 11:19:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199905071819.LAA08996@atari.saturn5.com> Subject: Re: Need Help!!!!!!!!! To: beetle_juice0@hotmail.com (Beetle Juice) Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 11:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <19990507170848.67514.qmail@hotmail.com> from "Beetle Juice" at May 7, 99 10:08:48 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > > Hi out there!! Hate to interrupt all the negativity but I was wondering What negativity? -troy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/Casey3.wav <- Casey Kasem in rare form From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 18:22:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21256 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 18:22:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 21209 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 18:22:31 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 18:22:31 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA20176 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 13:21:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca41-42.ix.netcom.com(209.110.234.42) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma019090; Fri May 7 13:07:34 1999 Message-ID: <37332BA8.D24A178A@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 11:06:32 -0700 From: Ray Vonie Organization: Feel Good Entertainment X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SF Raves Subject: Re: Harmony 3 - June 5th 1999 References: <01dc01be98a2$40fe8ae0$5f1b75ce@tweaker> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Huh? Can someone tell me what reality this came from? My prophecy abacus tells me that this Harmony lineup isn't supposed to be happening for at least another year. I think the Hyperreal quantum internet processor went ballistic and pulled bsp's out of the future... hope it doesn't alter the rave-time continuum to drastically. Time for another Majordomo overhaul. Keep it mellow, Vlad THE Web-monchichi wrote: > * * * * * * * * * Harmony 3 - Underground Source 5 year Anniversary * * * * > * * * * * > > Area 1 Techno/Trance: > Dave Ralph (The Argonauts/Perfecto/Cream - UK) > Dave the Drummer (Stay Up Forever/Smitten - UK) > Chris Fortier (Fade/Limbo - Orlando, FL) > Thee-O (Biohazard) > Tony Gamboa on 3 decks (Biohazard) > Guido on 3 decks (Biohazard/Delphi/Higher Source) > Friction (Cosmic Records - Orlando, FL) > > Area 2 Jungle/HHC: > Aphrodite (Aphrodite/Urban Takeover Recordings - UK) > Brisk (Next Generation - UK) > Paulina Taylor (H3/Hypersound) x Simon Apex (H3/Subsonic Underground) w/ MC > Stylee (H4B / H3 - AZ) > Dutchboy (H3) > Dieselboy (611 - Pittsburgh, PA) with MC Dub 2 (Philadelphia, PA) > Deacon (Wreckignition) > Heretic (119 Cru) > > Area 3 Breaks/House: > Bahamut aka Chris Rayce (Swell, Flavored Beats, Chunk & Hoodwink Records - > Denver, CO) x Rhee (Flagstaff, AZ) > Spice x Friction (Cosmic Records - Orlando, FL) > DJ Ghost x Frank Nitty (Ghost Tribe - SF) > Hipp-E (Funky Tekno Tribe - San Diego) > Barry Weaver (Funky Tekno Tribe - Portland, OR) > Flite (Biohazard) > Omar (Biohazard) > > Area 4: > Our 4th area will be held outdoors from 8-1am. We feature in this are our > first annual up and coming dj showcase: we are welcoming all up and coming > dj's who are pre-sale ticket holders to participate. the following rules > apply : you must purchase (1) pre sale ticket at higher source records and > gear, when you purchase your ticket you must submit a 60-90 min mixtape that > displays your dj'ing skills (make sure with the tape you include your name, > phone numbers, e-mail address and track listing), please leave that tape at > the entry box available at Higher Source records. all contest winners will > be notified via telephone the day before the event. 5-6 people will be > chosen to play sets that range from 40-45 minutes long and no paying dj's > are allowed to enter. you will be judged the night of harmony 3 and all > contestants will receive prizes provided by higher source records and gear. > please purchase your ticket and submit tape no later than may 29, 1999. > > ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > > Harmony 3 will take place on 6-5-99 > > harmony 3 features in all indoor areas an intense sound system to make your > heart thump and intelligent lighting provided none other than the Almighty > Shredder; mind boggling10-watt argon laser show by Laseronyx and 6 amazing > full-sized visual-projection screens by Create-A-Vision. > > harmony 3 exclusive mix tape give aways for the first 300 to arrive From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 18:30:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24374 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 18:30:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 24177 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 18:30:18 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 18:30:18 -0000 Received: from bow-107-70 (bow-107-70.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.107.70]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA21884 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 11:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <004601be98b7$ecc4a520$466be5a9@bow-107-70.reshall.berkeley.edu> From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?pyBDaHJpc3RvcGhlciCn?=" To: Subject: SoHo Style Party SUNDAY NIGHT 5/9/99 Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 11:32:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0043_01BE987D.3C45E4A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01BE987D.3C45E4A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable S o H o STYLE =20 hey all you ravers and pseudo ravers. this sunday may 9, i'm throwing a = new york style party in berkeley. if you're looking a change from your = average rave (not to say that raves aren't all that or anything), please = come to SoHo Style. There's gonna be phat talent spinning out some NYC = style house - club - trance - hiphop. and as an added bonus (for = charity purposes), we'll be having professional break dancers AND a bomb = ass fashion show. FOR DIRECTIONS TO THE location of the party PLEASE = EMAIL ME BACK.. thanks all... Chris. =20 S o H o STYLE=20 SOUND*SIGHT*TASTE*PLEASURE=20 set the standard in art, fashion, and leisure with=20 Chris. Richard. Robin. & THE OUTSIDERS=20 Sunday May 9, 9pm-1am @ the Alumni House=20 Fashion Show @ 11:30 pm=20 $5 w/ invite til 11pm... $6 after=20 information line : 510 - 666 - 0733=20 *only the hip and fashion forward need apply =20 =20 =20 SPONSORS: Villains Vault, Asphalt, Benneton, Kenneth Cole, Urban = Outfitters,=20 Metropolitan Magazine, Surface Magazine, Noah's Bagel, Eclair Bakery ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01BE987D.3C45E4A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 S o H o =20 STYLE 
hey all you ravers and pseudo ravers. this = sunday may=20 9, i'm throwing a new york style  party in berkeley.  if = you're=20 looking a change from your average rave (not to say that raves aren't = all that=20 or anything), please come to SoHo Style.  There's gonna be phat = talent=20 spinning out some NYC style house - club - trance - hiphop.  and as = an=20 added bonus (for charity purposes), we'll be having professional break = dancers=20 AND a bomb ass fashion show.  FOR DIRECTIONS = TO THE=20 location of the party PLEASE EMAIL ME BACK.. thanks all... =20 Chris.
 =20
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set the standard in art, fashion, and leisure with =
Chris.  =20 Richard.    Robin.   &  = THE =20 OUTSIDERS
Sunday May 9, 9pm-1am  = @  the=20 Alumni House
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$5 w/ invite til 11pm... $6 after =
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------=_NextPart_000_0043_01BE987D.3C45E4A0-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 18:31:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25573 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 18:31:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 25433 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 18:31:33 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 18:31:33 -0000 Received: from bow-107-70 (bow-107-70.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.107.70]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA20417 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 11:31:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <004e01be98b8$1b7c7be0$466be5a9@bow-107-70.reshall.berkeley.edu> From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?pyBDaHJpc3RvcGhlciCn?=" To: Subject: SoHo Style THIS SUNDAY NIGHT Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 11:33:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004B_01BE987D.6EC08FC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01BE987D.6EC08FC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable S o H o STYLE =20 hey all you ravers and pseudo ravers. this sunday may 9, i'm throwing a = new york style party in berkeley. if you're looking for a change from = your average rave (not to say that raves aren't all that or anything), = please come to SoHo Style. There's gonna be phat talent spinning out = some NYC style house - club - trance - hiphop. and as an added bonus = (for charity purposes), we'll be having professional break dancers AND a = bomb ass fashion show. FOR DIRECTIONS TO THE location of the party = PLEASE EMAIL ME BACK.. thanks all... Chris. =20 S o H o STYLE=20 SOUND*SIGHT*TASTE*PLEASURE=20 set the standard in art, fashion, and leisure with=20 Chris. Richard. Robin. & THE OUTSIDERS=20 Sunday May 9, 9pm-1am @ the Alumni House=20 Fashion Show @ 11:30 pm=20 $5 w/ invite til 11pm... $6 after=20 information line : 510 - 666 - 0733=20 *only the hip and fashion forward need apply =20 =20 =20 SPONSORS: Villains Vault, Asphalt, Benneton, Kenneth Cole, Urban = Outfitters,=20 Metropolitan Magazine, Surface Magazine, Noah's Bagel, Eclair Bakery ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01BE987D.6EC08FC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 S o H o =20 STYLE 
hey all you ravers and pseudo ravers. this = sunday may=20 9, i'm throwing a new york style  party in berkeley.  if = you're=20 looking for a change from your average rave (not to say that raves = aren't all=20 that or anything), please come to SoHo Style.  There's gonna be = phat talent=20 spinning out some NYC style house - club - trance - hiphop.  and as = an=20 added bonus (for charity purposes), we'll be having professional break = dancers=20 AND a bomb ass fashion show.  FOR DIRECTIONS = TO THE=20 location of the party PLEASE EMAIL ME BACK.. thanks all... =20 Chris.
 =20
S o=20 H=20 o  STYLE
SOUND*SIGHT*TASTE*PLEASURE =
set the standard in art, fashion, and leisure with =
Chris.  =20 Richard.    Robin.   &  = THE =20 OUTSIDERS
Sunday May 9, 9pm-1am  = @  the=20 Alumni House
Fashion  Show  @  11:30 pm
$5 w/ invite til 11pm... $6 after =
information line=20 :      510 - 666 - 0733
*only the hip = and fashion=20 forward need apply
 

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------=_NextPart_000_004B_01BE987D.6EC08FC0-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 18:41:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1540 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 18:41:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 1532 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 18:41:41 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 18:41:41 -0000 Received: from HppyXTC@aol.com (15546) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vUMWa16238 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 14:40:51 -0400 (EDT) From: HppyXTC@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 14:40:51 EDT Subject: Re: barefoot dancin' To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk But, you CANNOT beat dancing barefoot on the beach or on the grass. I don't care what may be hiding in the sand...the cold sand just keeps my feet going! I love it! Love, Heather From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 18:51:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9467 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 18:51:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 9454 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 18:51:21 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 18:51:21 -0000 Received: from Macias20@aol.com (4419) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vSDVa07564; Fri, 7 May 1999 14:50:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Macias20@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 14:50:47 EDT Subject: Re: ECCO To: WCKDCRX@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk oh hell ya.. thank god they use this place for more than bringing that nasty club "shake your hoochie mama ass" musik.. BLAH :P it's right down the street from the Old Spaghetti factory.. YUm.. that sounds so good right now... but anyways.. it's in San Pedro Square...it's a cool place.. but sometimes the kops go apeshit on you there...then again... when dont they... LOL... well, see ya there :) valerie AKA sparkles From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 19:09:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29893 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 19:09:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 29722 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 19:09:12 -0000 Received: from f10.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.21) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 19:09:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 65728 invoked by uid 0); 7 May 1999 19:09:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19990507190931.65727.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 07 May 1999 12:09:31 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: webmaster@biohazardproductions.com, nw-raves@hyperreal.org, trance@lists.colorado.edu, scr@socal-raves.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org, sd-raves@party.net, ravelinks@ravelinks.com, PLANET9@PLANET9.ORG Subject: Re: Harmony 3 - June 5th 1999 Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 12:09:31 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk and here I was thinking that is was the Harmony crew in SF. You might want to specify crew names when posting to SFR as we already have a Harmony prod here. Thanks, Macadio >From: "THE Web-monchichi" >To: "Northwest Raves" , "Trance List" >, "Socal Raves Mailing List" >, "SF Raves" , "San Diego >Raves" , "Ravelinks" , >"Planet 9" >Subject: Harmony 3 - June 5th 1999 >Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 08:57:04 -0700 > >* * * * * * * * * Harmony 3 - Underground Source 5 year Anniversary * * * >* >* * * * * > >Area 1 Techno/Trance: >Dave Ralph (The Argonauts/Perfecto/Cream - UK) >Dave the Drummer (Stay Up Forever/Smitten - UK) >Chris Fortier (Fade/Limbo - Orlando, FL) >Thee-O (Biohazard) >Tony Gamboa on 3 decks (Biohazard) >Guido on 3 decks (Biohazard/Delphi/Higher Source) >Friction (Cosmic Records - Orlando, FL) > >Area 2 Jungle/HHC: >Aphrodite (Aphrodite/Urban Takeover Recordings - UK) >Brisk (Next Generation - UK) >Paulina Taylor (H3/Hypersound) x Simon Apex (H3/Subsonic Underground) w/ MC >Stylee (H4B / H3 - AZ) >Dutchboy (H3) >Dieselboy (611 - Pittsburgh, PA) with MC Dub 2 (Philadelphia, PA) >Deacon (Wreckignition) >Heretic (119 Cru) > >Area 3 Breaks/House: >Bahamut aka Chris Rayce (Swell, Flavored Beats, Chunk & Hoodwink Records - >Denver, CO) x Rhee (Flagstaff, AZ) >Spice x Friction (Cosmic Records - Orlando, FL) >DJ Ghost x Frank Nitty (Ghost Tribe - SF) >Hipp-E (Funky Tekno Tribe - San Diego) >Barry Weaver (Funky Tekno Tribe - Portland, OR) >Flite (Biohazard) >Omar (Biohazard) > >Area 4: >Our 4th area will be held outdoors from 8-1am. We feature in this are our >first annual up and coming dj showcase: we are welcoming all up and coming >dj's who are pre-sale ticket holders to participate. the following rules >apply : you must purchase (1) pre sale ticket at higher source records and >gear, when you purchase your ticket you must submit a 60-90 min mixtape >that >displays your dj'ing skills (make sure with the tape you include your name, >phone numbers, e-mail address and track listing), please leave that tape at >the entry box available at Higher Source records. all contest winners will >be notified via telephone the day before the event. 5-6 people will be >chosen to play sets that range from 40-45 minutes long and no paying dj's >are allowed to enter. you will be judged the night of harmony 3 and all >contestants will receive prizes provided by higher source records and gear. >please purchase your ticket and submit tape no later than may 29, 1999. > >::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > >Harmony 3 will take place on 6-5-99 > >harmony 3 features in all indoor areas an intense sound system to make your >heart thump and intelligent lighting provided none other than the Almighty >Shredder; mind boggling10-watt argon laser show by Laseronyx and 6 amazing >full-sized visual-projection screens by Create-A-Vision. > >harmony 3 exclusive mix tape give aways for the first 300 to arrive > > ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > >info lines: >213-694-0190 | 714-937-3193 | 909-789-2103 | 619-635-9704 | 702-796-4644 >(Las Vegas) | 303-607-PLUR (Denver) >213-630-3063 Underground Source > >Check out http://happy.hardcorps.org/h3/Harmony for more info, dj profiles, >and presale outlets > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 19:32:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18209 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 19:32:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 18196 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 19:32:45 -0000 Received: from law-f125.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.188) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 19:32:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 26265 invoked by uid 0); 7 May 1999 19:32:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990507193205.26264.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.173.231.42 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 07 May 1999 12:32:05 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.173.231.42] From: "ro ro" To: thatpisces@yahoo.com, dj_hak@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 5.30.99 junglist in the south bay!!! Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 19:32:05 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OHHHHH YEAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! I'm definitely there!!!!! Woooooo Hoooooo!!!!! Rommel danglingfury@hotmail.com AOLIM: DaSaucey1 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 19:35:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20461 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 19:35:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 20409 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 19:35:43 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 19:35:43 -0000 Received: from MIB271@aol.com (572) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rGOHa27691; Fri, 7 May 1999 15:31:50 -0400 (EDT) From: MIB271@aol.com Message-ID: <2e22df83.246499a6@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 15:31:50 EDT Subject: Re: 5.30.99 junglist in the south bay!!! To: thatpisces@yahoo.com, dj_hak@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk IM freakin out in the North Bay and its my last day in northern california for 2 and a half months so ill be there going crrrrraaaaazy!! greg ps its the night after metripolis, ewww but oh well From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 20:17:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24507 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 20:17:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 24426 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 20:17:04 -0000 Received: from dummy.sirius.com (HELO phat.r8x.net) (root@207.44.194.129) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 20:17:04 -0000 Received: from x-radio.com (toker [192.168.1.19]) by phat.r8x.net (8.8.5/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA04281 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 13:17:02 -0700 Message-ID: <37334A50.5EF22DED@x-radio.com> Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 13:17:20 -0700 From: "W. P. Risenhoover" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Phunckateck Live on X-RADIO.COM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Check out Sage and Noel on x-radio.com right now... http://www.x-radio.com/live.html From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 20:30:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4385 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 20:30:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 4241 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 20:30:36 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 20:30:36 -0000 Received: from KaNdeEKlD@aol.com (8078) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id dLCCa13996; Fri, 7 May 1999 16:29:45 -0400 (EDT) From: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 16:29:45 EDT Subject: Re: bigga bee essa pee - Skills day party on Sat. To: radley@elemental.nu CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk iz da skillz party on Friday or Sat, I thought it twaz taday? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 20:40:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13341 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 20:40:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 13145 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 20:40:39 -0000 Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 20:40:39 -0000 Received: from cruinc.com ([209.157.30.51]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id NAA10218 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 13:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37334F1B.8A75C6B9@cruinc.com> Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 13:37:48 -0700 From: RobinT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Subject: RE: Need info on a venue name! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey people, Last Febuary ( I think ) There was a cool little party in Petaluma, I think it was thrown by Harmony. I know it was thrown by the same folks that threw Rebirth. Anyway, I am trying to find out the name of that theater. From what I understand, other then the distance, it was a fairly clean venue! I would appriciate any help you peeps can give on this! RobinT From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 20:54:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22085 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 20:54:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 22076 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 20:54:40 -0000 Received: from web126.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.195) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 20:54:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19990507205520.7222.rocketmail@web126.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web126.yahoomail.com; Fri, 07 May 1999 13:55:20 PDT Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:55:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: RE: Need info on a venue name! To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Phoenix Theatre is up there and had a lot of Ska shows. Might be the same spot. *HUGZ* pat Ooops! Did I speak of ska again on the list? Silly me. ;) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 20:57:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23453 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 20:57:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 23418 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 20:57:49 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 20:57:49 -0000 Received: from user (AM5-68-52-213.ixpres.com [209.75.52.213]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA66472; Fri, 7 May 1999 13:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990507132106.006c38bc@mail.ixpres.com> X-Sender: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 13:21:06 -0700 To: "Macadio G." , webmaster@biohazardproductions.com, nw-raves@hyperreal.org, trance@lists.colorado.edu, scr@socal-raves.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org, sd-raves@party.net, ravelinks@ravelinks.com, PLANET9@PLANET9.ORG From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: Re: Harmony 3 - June 5th 1999 In-Reply-To: <19990507190931.65727.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Okkkaaaayyy, i thought there was sumthin weird about the anniversary date for this considering harmony just did theirs last year...what crew is puttin this on then? Is this in the bay area or what? I'M CONFUZED! --madhvi At 12:09 PM 5/7/99 PDT, Macadio G. wrote: >and here I was thinking that is was the Harmony crew in SF. You might want >to specify crew names when posting to SFR as we already have a Harmony prod >here. > >Thanks, >Macadio > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 20:58:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23762 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 20:58:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 23658 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 20:57:59 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 20:57:59 -0000 Received: from user (AM5-68-52-213.ixpres.com [209.75.52.213]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA66572 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 13:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990507135326.006c7778@mail.ixpres.com> X-Sender: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 13:53:26 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: anyone need a computer? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Okay all, don't hate me for this, but i'm desperately trying to sell my computer which i just don't need. it's a MAC OS/7.6.1 and is TOTALLY loaded w/ really good graphics & web-dzine programs and some kick-ass 3-D design software. There's absolutely nothing wrong w/ it...at one point i had thought i was going into that field, and i paid nearly $4,000 for it. The software alone on this comp is worth nearly 2K and i'm asking $2500 OBO and will include a scanner & modem w/ it. If anyone wants a good web/grafx dzine start-up comp this is it... If you're interested or want more specifics please e-mail me back so i don't clog up everyone's mailboxes even more. i really really want to get rid of this so i can buy myself a notebook (which is all i need now) for school in the fall. I appreciate any help i get. luv & hugz, madhvi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 21:03:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27423 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 21:03:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 27212 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 21:03:20 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 21:03:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19990507205646.24937.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.244] by attach1; Fri, 07 May 1999 13:56:46 PDT Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:56:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: NRR:RE: Need info on a venue name! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OI! OI! Skankin' in muh cubicle =)jer === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 ---Patrick Seaton wrote: > > Phoenix Theatre is up there and had a lot of Ska shows. Might be the > same spot. > > *HUGZ* > pat > > Ooops! Did I speak of ska again on the list? Silly me. ;) > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 21:30:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10667 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 21:30:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 10616 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 21:29:51 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 21:29:51 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com (579) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id tBRBa03058; Fri, 7 May 1999 17:28:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: <6d7979e6.2464b4de@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 17:27:58 EDT Subject: Re: Harmony 3 - June 5th 1999 To: mdalal@ixpres.com, macadio@hotmail.com, webmaster@biohazardproductions.com, nw-raves@hyperreal.org, trance@lists.colorado.edu, scr@socal-raves.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org, sd-raves@party.net, ravelinks@ravelinks.com, PLANET9@planet9.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Los Angeles. n a message dated 5/7/99 1:58:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mdalal@ixpres.com writes: << Okkkaaaayyy, i thought there was sumthin weird about the anniversary date for this considering harmony just did theirs last year...what crew is puttin this on then? Is this in the bay area or what? I'M CONFUZED! --madhvi >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 21:38:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16945 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 21:38:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 16797 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 21:37:37 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 21:37:37 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com (3704) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vBSMa24273 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 17:36:26 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 17:36:25 EDT Subject: Re: Harmony 3 - June 5th 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ALL i can say is....PAULINA TAYLOR&SIMON APEX!!!!!!!!!!!!! *(o';'o)* _PIKA!!!!! OMG!!! hehe im there -aaron (orion) (oh yeah and that dj showcase thingy sounds interesting....) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 21:55:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25960 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 21:55:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 25942 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 21:55:15 -0000 Received: from f155.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.34) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 21:55:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 31138 invoked by uid 0); 7 May 1999 21:55:50 -0000 Message-ID: <19990507215550.31137.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 07 May 1999 14:55:49 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: webmaster@biohazardproductions.com, nw-raves@hyperreal.org, trance@lists.colorado.edu, scr@socal-raves.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org, sd-raves@party.net, ravelinks@ravelinks.com, PLANET9@PLANET9.ORG, mdalal@ixpres.com Subject: Re: Harmony 3 - June 5th 1999 Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 14:55:49 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Damn it!!! for the last time as I posted before There is a Harmony Prod. in SF that is in no way part of the Harmony Krew from So-cal. So if you plan to post to the SF raves list please specify Harmony Krew from So-Cal so that people on the SFR list dont get confused. Thanks, Sorry not to rant or Rave Macadio >From: "THE Web-monchichi" >To: "Macadio G." >,,,,,,,,"Madhvi >Dalal" >Subject: Re: Harmony 3 - June 5th 1999 >Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 14:14:15 -0700 > >* sigh * > >Harmony 3 BROUGHT TO YOU BY H3 PRODUCTIONS / UNDERGROUND SOURCE / BIOHAZARD >PROD. > >This party will take place in Los Angeles, Southern California, Western US, >United States, North America... > >Once again... > > * Harmony 3 - Underground Source 5 year Anniversary * > >Area 1 Techno/Trance: >Dave Ralph (The Argonauts/Perfecto/Cream - UK) >Dave the Drummer (Stay Up Forever/Smitten - UK) >Chris Fortier (Fade/Limbo - Orlando, FL) >Thee-O (Biohazard) >Tony Gamboa on 3 decks (Biohazard) >Guido on 3 decks (Biohazard/Delphi/Higher Source) >Friction (Cosmic Records - Orlando, FL) > >Area 2 Jungle/HHC: >Aphrodite (Aphrodite/Urban Takeover Recordings - UK) >Brisk (Next Generation - UK) >Paulina Taylor (H3/Hypersound) x Simon Apex (H3/Subsonic Underground) w/ MC >Stylee (H4B / H3 - AZ) >Dutchboy (H3) >Dieselboy (611 - Pittsburgh, PA) with MC Dub 2 (Philadelphia, PA) >Deacon (Wreckignition) >Heretic (119 Cru) > >Area 3 Breaks/House: >Bahamut aka Chris Rayce (Swell, Flavored Beats, Chunk & Hoodwink Records - >Denver, CO) x Rhee (Flagstaff, AZ) >Spice x Friction (Cosmic Records - Orlando, FL) >DJ Ghost x Frank Nitty (Ghost Tribe - SF) >Hipp-E (Funky Tekno Tribe - San Diego) >Barry Weaver (Funky Tekno Tribe - Portland, OR) >Flite (Biohazard) >Omar (Biohazard) > >Area 4: >Our 4th area will be held outdoors from 8-1am. We feature in this are our >first annual up and coming dj showcase: we are welcoming all up and coming >dj's who are pre-sale ticket holders to participate. the following rules >apply : you must purchase (1) pre sale ticket at higher source records and >gear, when you purchase your ticket you must submit a 60-90 min mixtape >that >displays your dj'ing skills (make sure with the tape you include your name, >phone numbers, e-mail address and track listing), please leave that tape at >the entry box available at Higher Source records. all contest winners will >be notified via telephone the day before the event. 5-6 people will be >chosen to play sets that range from 40-45 minutes long and no paying dj's >are allowed to enter. you will be judged the night of harmony 3 and all >contestants will receive prizes provided by higher source records and gear. >please purchase your ticket and submit tape no later than may 29, 1999. > >::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > >Harmony 3 will take place on 6-5-99 > >harmony 3 features in all indoor areas an intense sound system to make your >heart thump and intelligent lighting provided none other than the Almighty >Shredder; mind boggling10-watt argon laser show by Laseronyx and 6 amazing >full-sized visual-projection screens by Create-A-Vision. > >harmony 3 exclusive mix tape give aways for the first 300 to arrive > > ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > >info lines: >213-694-0190 | 714-937-3193 | 909-789-2103 | 619-635-9704 | 702-796-4644 >(Las Vegas) | 303-607-PLUR (Denver) >213-630-3063 Underground Source > >Check out http://happy.hardcorps.org/h3/Harmony for more info, dj profiles, >and presale outlets > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 22:10:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5677 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 22:10:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 5649 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 22:10:33 -0000 Received: from law2-f119.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.119) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 22:10:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 21881 invoked by uid 0); 7 May 1999 22:10:06 -0000 Message-ID: <19990507221006.21880.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 199.249.234.30 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 07 May 1999 15:10:06 PDT X-Originating-IP: [199.249.234.30] From: "P a r i s" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: AMPS.... Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 15:10:06 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_3b93eda2_59ee5b5e$3cfbbfc4" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_3b93eda2_59ee5b5e$3cfbbfc4 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_2b517352_59ee5b5e$3cfbbfc4" ------=_NextPart_001_2b517352_59ee5b5e$3cfbbfc4 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Whats up ! I just picked up some speakers Gemini gsm-1532 & EV's T52+.. Can anyone recommended some good amps.... P-daddy* ------=_NextPart_001_2b517352_59ee5b5e$3cfbbfc4 Content-type: text/html
                 
Whats up !


I just picked up some speakers Gemini gsm-1532 & EV's T52+.. Can anyone recommended some good amps....

P-daddy*

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May 1999 22:35:12 -0000 Received: from fortune-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO fortune.excite.com) (198.3.99.203) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 22:35:12 -0000 Received: from scorch.excite.com ([199.172.152.240]) by fortune.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990507223443.LUB6626.fortune@scorch.excite.com> for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 15:34:43 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: will the *real* Harmony please stand up? Message-Id: <926116485.415.920@excite.com> Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 15:34:45 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It doesn't bode well for an event to... 1) use the name of a very well-established production crew in the Bay Area for their party.... i mean really, how about let's throw a "moontribe" up here... or "dune" ... or maybe some vegas folks should do "friends and family"... surely *someone* there should have known there'd be confusion there! 2) crosspost their bsp to every rave list west of the rockies. tacky. sheez. and to think for a minute that my heart started pounding that greg had booked dave ralph. leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 22:56:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9203 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 22:56:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 9064 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 22:56:32 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 22:56:32 -0000 Received: from MissNexa@aol.com (8070) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vEAWa24056 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 18:54:52 -0400 (EDT) From: MissNexa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 18:54:51 EDT Subject: *what a raver means to me* thread (Quote and Question - rambling) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 120 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I dunno who said this quote, or if I got it myself, but.... "Don't hate, educate." Anyone want to claim this quote, I think I saw it on a post earlier this week. But other than that, I think everyone else has summarized my justifications for putting on all that drag queen stuff on me, for forcing my poor body to dance all night even tho I am all tired and kinda sick from living off of red bull and sugary candy for the whole night.. all for that one high... all for those dope aZzzZ beats. :-D Ack, I've decided to take the pragmatic approach and to not go to the free party on saturday; i hope you all who go there totally rawk out to some trance/teknO cause it'll be sick!!!! Dance hard for me, I'll see whoever later in May! ps - I can respect someone's decision to do drugs (ehhh, to a certain degree), although I'm not sure just how I can give a person the *R* in PLUR when they talk "Raves this, raver that..." 24/7 and have the conversation ALWAYS includes how much E they're taking that weekend. Which is funny, because that reminds me of something. Yesterday as I stayed after school doing a practice test for bio, I found myself in the girls' bathroom and it's funny what crap they write on the wall, and it said in pager code: 128113125 - 8123 - 743- 5417 -637 (Ravers are the Shit! always and forever (637?) ) and then there was a nice fat E with a circle around it next to it.... no point to this story, i just found it humorous. and NO, I did NOT write the *wannabe ravers suck* right next to it, just for the record. And the beat goes on.... --> Miss Nexa From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 23:10:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18320 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 23:10:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 18302 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 23:10:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gigi.excite.com) (199.172.152.110) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 23:10:13 -0000 Received: from mystic.excite.com ([199.172.152.98]) by gigi.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990507231014.OAX14444.gigi@mystic.excite.com> for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 16:10:14 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: old skool vs. new skool? Message-Id: <926118586.14947.289@excite.com> Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 16:09:46 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk can i talk about some possible different perspectives in this "old school vs. new school" conversation... and, patrice, since you made some specific examples of how you feel like some of the newer ravers are following in your footsteps (sorry if that's oversimplifying, but i hope you know what i mean).... i'm going to use you as an example. cuz i love you.... but... you're saying you think the "new" kids are "copying" you and are derivative, and maybe don't really "get it" ... cuz you identify yourself as "old school" and that's somehow different to you. and i'm going to ask you to put yourself in someone else's shoes for a minute. put yourself in the shoes of someone who started raving years before you did... and who felt a connection and "ownership" of the rave scene... and who was a "trailblazer" in some ways... someone who found raving when it was about renegade break-in parties and crazy full moon beach parties that are legendary now... (and no, i wasn't there then) and you feel like you have a handle on what raving is really all about... and then along comes this adorable dimpled kid (and you *were* the kid on this list when you joined, 14 right?) who finds something about the scene that belongs to *them* and they claim it for their own, because they (you) love it and it "belongs" to them (you), too... now.... think about how you'd feel if the "old schooler" felt you were "invading territory" or didn't understand what raving is *really* about... or thought you were just being derivative and riding on their coatttails.... if they judged you simply because you discovered raving after they did.... and you weren't so savvy about the music, or the styles, or the choices about drugs, or how to dance, or which party was "cooler" or more "underground".... that would be wrong, right? and you'd think that was ridiculous for them to judge you that way, right? because the rave scene existed before us, it will exist after us, it's constantly changing, and anyone who thinks they belong... well then, they belong. whether we think they're as "hip" or "cool" as we'd like to think ravers are. because i will personally guarantee you... when YOU entered the rave scene, there were people who thought "oh my god, this little 14-year old who is complaining that her mommy won't let her buy jnco's is on this list? in our scene? what is this world coming to????" .... i guarantee it, because i remember it happening. there was then -- as there is now -- a certain feeling that we were watching the deterioration of some elite little club because strangers were inviting themselves in, and someone of those strangers weren't who we expected. but you belonged.... and the ones who are arriving now may belong too .... we'll know if they stick around for a while... because this isn't a club where the current members pick the new ones.... it's a tribe where the people who belong hear the call, show up, and are part of our big weird and constantly changing extended family. so please remember that our scene is made up of people who CHOOSE to be part of it.... and that's THEIR choice, not ours... just because one person arrived before another doesn't make them cooler or anything other than a member of our tribe who arrived at the party a little earlier. the first fish swimming upstream is still a fish like all the rest.... and if your identity is tied up in being the first fish in line, then prepare yourself that you have to keep moving to stay ahead of the pack... and if you're really a fish who's part of the school (which would be all the fishies who aren't the first one, right), you're not really in the front, and not really at the back.... then just admit that you're one of the crowd, and that's all good. like paul, who has begun complaining about candy kids for some bizarre reason, because he thinks they should get their own style, instead of copying his.... my advice to him is to stop looking behind him and start thinking up something new, for cryin' out loud. (i understand the dilemma, but if we build our identity around our personal appearnce, we better be prepared to work for that individuality!) sorry this turned out so long... but we all have to remember we were the newcomers once... and as our scene changes and grows, we should never feel superior because we got there sooner. happy friday, everyone... love, leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 23:32:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 140 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 23:32:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 121 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 23:32:15 -0000 Received: from mx.etrade.com (204.5.38.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 23:32:15 -0000 Received: from bayarea.net (pc0236.etrade.com [204.163.200.66]) by mx.etrade.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA04040 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 16:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3733788C.CBD63CFA@bayarea.net> Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 16:34:36 -0700 From: Jim Maze X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: NRR: National Masturbation Day today! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I wonder when Hallmark will pick up on this.....can't wait to see the cards ;) Sex Shop, Others Mark 'National Masturbation Day' SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - San Franciscans held a party Friday ``to de-stigmatize and celebrate the under-recognized activity of self-love.'' The occasion being marked at a local sex shop was ``National Masturbation Day,'' and the San Francisco sex campaigners who organized the erotic festival and ``Masturbate-a-thon'' said it was part of a drive to liberate people's sexuality. ``We wanted a fun way to bring masturbation out of the closet and affirm that masturbation is a healthy, positive part of your sexuality,'' said Laura Weide, spokeswoman for Good Vibrations, a women-owned San Francisco sex shop and mail order business. According to the 22-year-old store, participants in the ''Masturbate-a-thon'' have asked sponsors to donate money for each minute that they masturbate during the day in support of four AIDS and HIV organizations in San Francisco, Seattle, New York and New Orleans. Fund-raisers will receive bumper stickers saying ``I came for a cause'' in return for their efforts with the honor system applying to the length of time they actually spent. Organizers did not know for sure how many people planned to participate, but Weide said the shop distributed more than 5,000 registration forms in San Francisco and received many phone calls and e-mail inquiriesfrom around the country. Among those who promised to participate were 100 students at Vassar College, New York, and a group of students in Miami, she said, adding that donors would have to take it on trust that the requisite time wasspent masturbating. Good Vibrations designed ``National Masturbation Day'' in 1995 to bring attention to what it calls one of the most common and least talked-about human activities. ``Most Americans masturbate and yet there continues to be a lot of shame and guilt around masturbation,'' Weide said. ``We wanted to do something that would affirm masturbation as a central part of sexuality that is natural, that is healthy, that is positive. We thought that if Hallmark (a greeting cards firm) can create holidays, we can too,'' she added. As part of its celebration, the store voiced its support for Sherri Williams, lead plaintiff against the state of Alabama for its efforts to prevent the sale and distribution of sex toys. Williams is the owner of two Alabama sex toy shops. A U.S. Federal Court judge struck down the state ban on the sale of such products, but the state's attorney general filed an appeal last week. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 23:39:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2995 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 23:39:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 2984 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 23:39:50 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 23:39:50 -0000 Received: from bow-107-70 (bow-107-70.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.107.70]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA18514 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 16:39:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <007f01be98e3$2be3cc60$466be5a9@bow-107-70.reshall.berkeley.edu> From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?pyBDaHJpc3RvcGhlciCn?=" To: Subject: SoHo Style SETS OFF THIS SUNDAY @ 9pm Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 16:41:39 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007C_01BE98A8.7B437A20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007C_01BE98A8.7B437A20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable S o H o STYLE =20 Hey all you ravers and pseudo ravers! 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------=_NextPart_000_007C_01BE98A8.7B437A20-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 23:40:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4404 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 23:40:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 4388 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 23:40:50 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 23:40:50 -0000 Received: from bow-107-70 (bow-107-70.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.107.70]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA12910 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 16:40:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <008701be98e3$4fbdf5c0$466be5a9@bow-107-70.reshall.berkeley.edu> From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?pyBDaHJpc3RvcGhlciCn?=" To: Subject: SoHo Style Extravagenza This Sunday Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 16:42:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0084_01BE98A8.A284EA60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01BE98A8.A284EA60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable S o H o STYLE =20 Hey all you ravers and pseudo ravers! This sunday may 9, I'm throwing a = New York style party in Berkeley. If you're looking for a change from = your average rave (not to say that raves aren't all that or anything), = please come to SoHo Style. There's gonna be phat talent spinning out = some NYC style house - club - trance - hiphop. And as an added bonus = (for charity purposes), we'll be having professional break dancers AND a = bomb ass fashion show. Remember-- DreSs tO IMpress! FOR DIRECTIONS TO = THE location of the party PLEASE EMAIL ME BACK.. thanks all... Chris. =20 S o H o STYLE=20 SOUND*SIGHT*TASTE*PLEASURE=20 set the standard in art, fashion, and leisure with=20 Chris. Richard. Robin. & THE OUTSIDERS=20 Sunday May 9, 9pm-1am @ the Alumni House=20 Fashion Show @ 11:30 pm=20 $5 w/ invite til 11pm... $6 after=20 information line : 510 - 666 - 0733 There is a limited capacity so come early!=20 *only the hip and fashion forward need apply =20 =20 =20 SPONSORS: Villains Vault, Asphalt, Benneton, Kenneth Cole, Urban = Outfitters,=20 Metropolitan Magazine, Surface Magazine, Noah's Bagel, Eclair Bakery ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01BE98A8.A284EA60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Fashion  Show  @  11:30 pm
$5 w/ invite til 11pm... $6 after =
information line=20 :      510 - 666 - 0733
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*only the hip and fashion forward need=20 apply
 

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------=_NextPart_000_0084_01BE98A8.A284EA60-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 23:42:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5250 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 23:42:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 5241 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 23:42:11 -0000 Received: from famine.ocf.berkeley.edu (mlowdrma@128.32.191.92) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 23:42:11 -0000 Received: from localhost (mlowdrma@localhost) by famine.OCF.Berkeley.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA26551; Fri, 7 May 1999 16:42:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: famine.OCF.Berkeley.EDU: mlowdrma owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 16:42:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "Minh Q. Le" Reply-To: "Minh Q. Le" To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com cc: Sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: What raving means (on the navysatan tip) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 7 May 1999 TeKnODiVa@aol.com wrote: > I think what scares me most about new people coming in and taking over > the scene is that they just don't get it. For me it was always about being > happy, at a party or anywhere else... I'm constantly full of energy and love > and I don't think that's fake at all. It's who I am.. I don't need to take --> Pffft !!! Fake, Fake, Fake, Fake, Fake, Fake, Fake ... Gurlfrend, you're so fake your fake fur pants are more genuine than you are. Get a grip and realize that no matter how much glitter and color and wigs you put on yourself, you're still the same 'ole plastic 16 year old inside. > Grr.. this is about the time I loose my point, reread the letter and > realize I've been rambling..... --> Well duh! Maybe you should stop taking those bong hits so often, it might improve your higher mental skills...like memory. > WEll.. maybe I don't know what I'm trying to say. I've been called a fake > person before and I think that hurts more than anything anyone has ever said > to me. --> Oh rite...the "teknodiva" has "feelings." You're not a true diva in any sense of the word...true divas have no feelings foolz... besides, it all fits in, you're fake down to your SFR identity; if you were blond your roots would have roots cuz you're so fake. > Raving shouldn't be about people just being nice to everyone, but it > shouldn't be about being a bitch either. What you should do is know who you > are and stay true to that no matter what. Even if it means you're not doing > what other people think you should be to be fitting in. Especially in the > scene. -->This from somebody who is a KandEkid? Oh puhleez, I suggest you ask your high school English teacher on the finer points of irony. You are such an attention whore you might as well just walk around a party with pom-poms miss popularity. I wonder how many of your "friends" are actual nobodys in the scene...hmmm? I suppose if they aren't on the inside track, you aren't interested; wait, wouldn't that make you a ... groupie? I'm sorry dahlink... one does not cultivate fabulousness through association. Make yourself interesting first before even attempting such heights, cuz at this level luv, you might as well just be fake... whoops, you got that down already huh? > Maybe not everyone is as naturally high on life as me, but at least stay > real. People will respect you more for it in the long run. I think it would > really make me unconfortable if someone didn't like me and was like, "OH hi, > sweetie, I love you you look great," just because they felt obligated. > I have points, I have lot to say, but thoughts aren't forming really well > right now and I'm going to bed. -->Do you really know what's real Patrice or is that your parent's credit card in your hand? Oh no cupcake...I don't feel obligated at all, in fact, I would much rather ask you whom you stole that look from? I am glad to know that you still are able to fit thoughts into that cute little head of yours, lord knows how difficult it is to do that while keeping track of all your tickle-me Elmo dolls. Yes, let's do stay real, but before I leave, I've been meaning to tell you... pink really doesn't become you, that wig you wore at the Happy Kid's Halloween made you look ghastly. At least nobody else knows about it ... er, wait; didn't somebody take a picture of you in that wig and plaster it all over a fag magazine? Touche mon Ami ... that's what friends are for eh? :) Evil M&m From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 23:45:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7940 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 23:45:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 7904 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 23:45:29 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 23:45:29 -0000 Received: from Kitana3737@aol.com (7987) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 9MWa006446; Fri, 7 May 1999 19:42:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Kitana3737@aol.com Message-ID: <9b4a34f6.2464d445@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 19:41:57 EDT Subject: Re: SoHo Style Extravagenza This Sunday To: chrisle@uclink.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk is it just me or did i get this 10 times today??? :P problemzzz?? :) muchlove, ~*MiCheLLe*~ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 07 23:47:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8881 invoked by uid 6000); 7 May 1999 23:46:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 8845 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 23:46:54 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 23:46:54 -0000 Received: from yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.29.227]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA02596; Fri, 7 May 1999 16:46:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990507163652.00908bb4@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: case@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 16:37:56 -0700 To: "Queen of Scots" From: josh sorkin Subject: Re: Ethereal Line up. Let the vibe begin!!!! Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 01:11 PM 5/6/99 -0700, you wrote: >For all those that can, try to go out to this! Not only does the line-up >sound kick-arse, but... Stefan G on the visuals!! >This should be enough to go, on those merits alone. >Some of the best, no, the best visuals, I have ever seen. (in March at the >Justice League for a reggea show) >And what a nice and thoughtful guy to boot! > ah yes. stefan is a stand-up guy. a real man among men. he made pretty lights happen at our parties two weeks in a row (both on 24 hours' notice) and they were SuperInventiveJoyousTrippy. not to mention they made a lot of people feel like they were high on a phat bowl of color, or something. if you wanna buy it, i highly recommend it. thanx for makin' it all happen mr. stephan. Josh Sorkin Kuang Mark XI From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 00:04:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15458 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 00:04:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 15443 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 00:04:06 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 00:04:06 -0000 Received: from Oct1faith@aol.com (8001) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vQZEa02301 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 20:02:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Oct1faith@aol.com Message-ID: <659209b9.2464d918@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 20:02:32 EDT Subject: BSP. t dance at 1015 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ellen Feratto an Blackstone are playing at 1015 folsom this Sun. from 4pm til 12am the party call ******Pulse****** this Sun is the opening of this new once a month party see ya www.blackstone-production.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 00:23:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21206 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 00:23:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 21197 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 00:23:14 -0000 Received: from web807.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 00:23:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19990508002240.23410.rocketmail@web807.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.180.76.15] by web807.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 07 May 1999 17:22:40 PDT Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 17:22:40 -0700 (PDT) From: loic comolli Subject: Nikita Tonight To: sf MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey everybody, who's going to Nikita tonight?? Mystre, Terry Mullan, and Troy Roberts... are you kidding me?! terry mullan was nothing short of awesome last time he was at spundae, and same goes for troy roberts at Allone. for those over 21, go, go, go! hope to see you there. loic From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 00:30:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23578 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 00:30:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 23473 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 00:30:52 -0000 Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (206.253.129.185) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 00:30:52 -0000 Received: from tar-and-gravel ([206.25.144.218]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id UAA20309; Fri, 7 May 1999 20:30:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990507173021.036006b0@shell4.ba.best.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 17:31:04 -0700 To: Oct1faith@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: ry-N Subject: Re: BSP. t dance at 1015 In-Reply-To: <659209b9.2464d918@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk let the faggy house flow .... At 05:02 PM 5/7/99 , Oct1faith@aol.com wrote: > Ellen Feratto an Blackstone >are playing at 1015 folsom this Sun. >from 4pm til 12am >the party call > >******Pulse****** >this Sun is the opening of this new once a month party >see ya >www.blackstone-production.com > ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 00:34:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25062 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 00:34:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 25046 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 00:34:10 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 00:34:10 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com (3699) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id uRJKa02301; Fri, 7 May 1999 20:32:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: <429b976a.2464e00b@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 20:32:11 EDT Subject: Re: What raving means (on the navysatan tip) To: mlowdrma@ocf.berkeley.edu, TeKnODiVa@aol.com CC: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm going to assume that your response to Trice's post is a joke, because that would have to be the lamest most blatant flame I have seen on the list yet. Please assure me you weren't being serious? In a message dated 5/7/99 4:42:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mlowdrma@ocf.Berkeley.EDU writes: --> Pffft !!! Fake, Fake, Fake, Fake, Fake, Fake, Fake ... Gurlfrend, you're so fake your fake fur pants are more genuine than you are. Get a grip and realize that no matter how much glitter and color and wigs you put on yourself, you're still the same 'ole plastic 16 year old inside. --> Well duh! Maybe you should stop taking those bong hits so often, it might improve your higher mental skills...like memory. --> Oh rite...the "teknodiva" has "feelings." You're not a true diva in any sense of the word...true divas have no feelings foolz... besides, it all fits in, you're fake down to your SFR identity; if you were blond your roots would have roots cuz you're so fake. -->This from somebody who is a KandEkid? Oh puhleez, I suggest you ask your high school English teacher on the finer points of irony. You are such an attention whore you might as well just walk around a party with pom-poms miss popularity. I wonder how many of your "friends" are actual nobodys in the scene...hmmm? I suppose if they aren't on the inside track, you aren't interested; wait, wouldn't that make you a ... groupie? I'm sorry dahlink... one does not cultivate fabulousness through association. Make yourself interesting first before even attempting such heights, cuz at this level luv, you might as well just be fake... whoops, you got that down already huh? ->Do you really know what's real Patrice or is that your parent's credit card in your hand? Oh no cupcake...I don't feel obligated at all, in fact, I would much rather ask you whom you stole that look from? I am glad to know that you still are able to fit thoughts into that cute little head of yours, lord knows how difficult it is to do that while keeping track of all your tickle-me Elmo dolls. Yes, let's do stay real, but before I leave, I've been meaning to tell you... pink really doesn't become you, that wig you wore at the Happy Kid's Halloween made you look ghastly. At least nobody else knows about it ... er, wait; didn't somebody take a picture of you in that wig and plaster it all over a fag magazine? Touche mon Ami ... that's what friends are for eh? :) Evil M&m >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 00:34:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25575 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 00:34:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 25400 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 00:34:19 -0000 Received: from shell.tsoft.com (root@198.144.192.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 00:34:19 -0000 Received: from dand.com (hurricane.dand.com [209.133.59.242]) by shell.tsoft.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA09274 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 17:34:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from royal [209.133.59.246] by dand.com (FTGate 2, 1, 2, 1); Fri, 07 May 99 17:19:55 -0700 From: "Joshua Goldberg" To: "SF raves" Subject: Skills free daytime party in the park tommorow Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 17:31:18 -0700 Message-ID: <000001be98ea$1693b260$f63b85d1@royal.dand> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01BE98AF.6A366100" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01BE98AF.6A366100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone going to the free party tommorow from 1-6pm in golden gate park? I will see you there. I am doing a research report on the rave culture so if anyone who at the park tommorow let me use their video camera so i could record some of the set of Mars & Mystre (my favorite djs) i would appreciate it. Also i need to interview people, if any one would be interested in doing an interview via email that would be great (open to anyone, but especially i need interviews with DJs, promoters, breakerz, and kandy kids). thanks Hugs and Lollipops, Josh Teach PLUR (peace, love, unity, and respect) ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01BE98AF.6A366100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Anyone=20 going to the free party tommorow from 1-6pm in golden gate park?  I = will=20 see you there.  I am doing a research report on the rave culture so = if=20 anyone who at the park tommorow let me use their video camera so i could = record=20 some of the set of Mars & Mystre (my favorite djs) i would = appreciate=20 it.  Also i need to interview people, if any one would be = interested in=20 doing an interview via email that would be great (open to anyone, but = especially=20 i need interviews with DJs, promoters, breakerz, and kandy kids).  = thanks=20
Hugs=20 and Lollipops,
Josh
Teach = PLUR (peace, love, unity, and = respect)
 
------=_NextPart_000_0001_01BE98AF.6A366100-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 00:49:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2130 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 00:49:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 2122 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 00:49:38 -0000 Received: from pop04.iname.net (165.251.8.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 00:49:38 -0000 Received: from tar-and-gravel ([206.25.144.218]) by pop04.iname.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id UAA28117; Fri, 7 May 1999 20:49:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990507174051.045104c0@shell4.ba.best.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 17:49:47 -0700 To: GoscarArch@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: ry-N Subject: Re: DC rave scene drama In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk WOO HOO ... I was at Buzz last friday .. it was ALLL my fault!!! Buzz is a pretty cool club, kind of a quasi-club/rave. Personally it was a little too clubby at times for my tastes but when its all ya got its all ya got. I found it really interesting though, because I tried to find a party in DC and all everyone told was just "go to Buzz" ... it seems buzz IS the scene out there. i mean .. each weekend there is no tryin to decide what to do ... its just "go to buzz" (sorta like we all "go to 2nd a Jackson") oh well ... its a shame about it being shut down. at least now I dont feel as bad though about being there a week too early to see oakenfold and 2 weeks too early to see sasha. but I guess we should all learn a lesson from this ... dont make out with cops ryan At 08:08 PM 5/6/99 , GoscarArch@aol.com wrote: >Hello all you San Francisco Ravers!!! >I hope you are all having fun. I will soon be living in Berkeley (may 27'th >i'm moving flying out and living in one of the co-op houses around berkeley >campus) and can't wait to meet a lot of you and dance and all that... :) >Anyways, I'm procrastinating studying for finals and thought some of you >might be interested in our little drama here in washington DC. anyway, our >most popular weekly rave, buzz, is at a club called Nation (formerly the >capital ballroom, they just did tons of renovations, got a new sound system, >put in a new floor, a balcony...) scott henry spins here almost every week, >and this friday paul oakenfold was supposed to spin... >last night there was a fox news special about buzz. apparently the fox news >lady came in four weeks in a row with a hidden camera. she taped people >giving massages, doing the vicks thing, cracking their backs, making >out...she said that she was offered lots of different drugs, that she saw >people doing lots of drugs... and there are some police officers there that >don't really do anything, just stand by the bathrooms and guard the exits... >she taped one of the cops kissing some girl and then making out with her in >his cop car later... and they showed how the cops don't do anything even >though they know rampant drug use is happening right there. ... and today >they decided to cancel buzz, i don't know for how long, but everyone is >really upset about it. i think something similar happened at fever in >baltimore a few years ago, there was a 20/20 special then resulted in it >shutting down. for us DC kids, (even though lots of ravers don't like buzz >that much anymore cause its been way too crowded with new people cause of its >reopening, more club people, sorority girls...) this is one of the few places >we have to dance to good music party... hopefully they will somehow re-open, >but nobody knows when. > >well, sorry to bore you if you're not interested in this little story, but i >thought some of you might be. as i said before i'll be moving to berkeley >the end of this month, and i'd love to hear more about the scene over >there... have a good weekend everyone > >peace >greg :) > ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 01:03:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5841 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 01:03:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 5826 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 01:03:30 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 01:03:30 -0000 Received: from [209.75.52.211] (AM5-68-52-211.ixpres.com [209.75.52.211]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA07327; Fri, 7 May 1999 18:04:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 17:13:22 -0800 To: "Minh Q. Le" , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: Re: What raving means (on the navysatan tip) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Um, i don't know all the weird undercurrents behind this and i don't want to know, but i just gotta say *OUCH*. DAMN dude, that's some harsh shit. --madhvi >On Fri, 7 May 1999 TeKnODiVa@aol.com wrote: > > >> I think what scares me most about new people coming in and taking over >> the scene is that they just don't get it. For me it was always about being >> happy, at a party or anywhere else... I'm constantly full of energy and >>love >> and I don't think that's fake at all. It's who I am.. I don't need to take > >--> Pffft !!! Fake, Fake, Fake, Fake, Fake, Fake, Fake ... Gurlfrend, >you're so fake your fake fur pants are more genuine than you are. Get a >grip and realize that no matter how much glitter and color and wigs you >put on yourself, you're still the same 'ole plastic 16 year old inside. > > > > > >> Grr.. this is about the time I loose my point, reread the letter and >> realize I've been rambling..... > >--> Well duh! Maybe you should stop taking those bong hits so often, it >might improve your higher mental skills...like memory. > > >> WEll.. maybe I don't know what I'm trying to say. I've been called a >>fake >> person before and I think that hurts more than anything anyone has ever >>said >> to me. > >--> Oh rite...the "teknodiva" has "feelings." You're not a true diva in >any sense of the word...true divas have no feelings foolz... besides, it >all fits in, you're fake down to your SFR identity; if you were blond your >roots would have roots cuz you're so fake. > > >> Raving shouldn't be about people just being nice to everyone, but it >> shouldn't be about being a bitch either. What you should do is know who >>you >> are and stay true to that no matter what. Even if it means you're not >>doing >> what other people think you should be to be fitting in. Especially in the >> scene. > >-->This from somebody who is a KandEkid? Oh puhleez, I suggest you ask >your high school English teacher on the finer points of irony. You are >such an attention whore you might as well just walk around a party with >pom-poms miss popularity. I wonder how many of your "friends" are actual >nobodys in the scene...hmmm? I suppose if they aren't on the inside >track, you aren't interested; wait, wouldn't that make you a ... >groupie? I'm sorry dahlink... one does not cultivate fabulousness through >association. Make yourself interesting first before even attempting such >heights, cuz at this level luv, you might as well just be fake... whoops, >you got that down already huh? > > > >> Maybe not everyone is as naturally high on life as me, but at least >>stay >> real. People will respect you more for it in the long run. I think it >>would >> really make me unconfortable if someone didn't like me and was like, "OH >>hi, >> sweetie, I love you you look great," just because they felt obligated. >> I have points, I have lot to say, but thoughts aren't forming really >>well >> right now and I'm going to bed. > >-->Do you really know what's real Patrice or is that your parent's credit >card in your hand? Oh no cupcake...I don't feel obligated at all, in fact, >I would much rather ask you whom you stole that look from? I am glad to >know that you still are able to fit thoughts into that cute little head of >yours, lord knows how difficult it is to do that while keeping track of >all your tickle-me Elmo dolls. Yes, let's do stay real, but before I >leave, I've been meaning to tell you... pink really doesn't become you, >that wig you wore at the Happy Kid's Halloween made you look ghastly. At >least nobody else knows about it ... er, wait; didn't somebody take a >picture of you in that wig and plaster it all over a fag magazine? Touche >mon Ami ... that's what friends are for eh? > > > > >:) >Evil M&m From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 01:08:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7532 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 01:08:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 7524 invoked by uid 233); 8 May 1999 01:08:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 17424 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 16:51:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 16:51:54 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 50 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 09:49:22 -0700 Message-ID: <37331A25.C0DF18C8@hrg.com> Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 09:51:49 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFraves peeps Subject: Full Moon - May 30th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey what up peeps... comin up Sunday May 30th (memorial day weekend)... FULL MOON once again well be partying together under the full moon, visuals provided by mother nature line up for the evening will be Rob Doten (Wicked/Greyhound/Oboro/Trip n Spin records) Taj (Oboro/Kinetic Grooves records) David Coleman with Sen-Sei live on keys (Kinetic Grooves records) John Rodriguez (Balance) TJ (Balance) Eric Erickson (Balance) 415-339-8015 and http://www.SFHouse.com for info this will be an extra special bday celebration for all the Gemnis From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 01:13:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9116 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 01:12:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 9092 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 01:12:52 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 01:12:52 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA03421; Fri, 7 May 1999 18:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id BAA07179; Sat, 8 May 1999 01:10:22 GMT From: "MooK<><" To: "Madhvi Dalal" , "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" Subject: RE: What raving means (on the navysatan tip) Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 18:17:48 -0700 Message-ID: <005001be98f0$96078200$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Minh is our resident bitch. He's been in hiding for a lil while so he's trying to make up for lost time. Don't pay him no mind, his bark is real bad but he won't bite unless you ask him nicely ;-P MooK<>< > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of Madhvi Dalal > Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 6:13 PM > To: Minh Q. Le; sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: What raving means (on the navysatan tip) > > > Um, i don't know all the weird undercurrents behind this and i don't want > to know, but i just gotta say *OUCH*. DAMN dude, that's some harsh shit. > > --madhvi > > > >On Fri, 7 May 1999 TeKnODiVa@aol.com wrote: > > > > > >> I think what scares me most about new people coming in and > taking over > >> the scene is that they just don't get it. For me it was > always about being > >> happy, at a party or anywhere else... I'm constantly full of energy and > >>love > >> and I don't think that's fake at all. It's who I am.. I don't > need to take > > > >--> Pffft !!! Fake, Fake, Fake, Fake, Fake, Fake, Fake ... Gurlfrend, > >you're so fake your fake fur pants are more genuine than you are. Get a > >grip and realize that no matter how much glitter and color and wigs you > >put on yourself, you're still the same 'ole plastic 16 year old inside. > > > > > > > > > > > >> Grr.. this is about the time I loose my point, reread the > letter and > >> realize I've been rambling..... > > > >--> Well duh! Maybe you should stop taking those bong hits so often, it > >might improve your higher mental skills...like memory. > > > > > >> WEll.. maybe I don't know what I'm trying to say. I've > been called a > >>fake > >> person before and I think that hurts more than anything anyone has ever > >>said > >> to me. > > > >--> Oh rite...the "teknodiva" has "feelings." You're not a true diva in > >any sense of the word...true divas have no feelings foolz... besides, it > >all fits in, you're fake down to your SFR identity; if you were > blond your > >roots would have roots cuz you're so fake. > > > > > >> Raving shouldn't be about people just being nice to everyone, but it > >> shouldn't be about being a bitch either. What you should do > is know who > >>you > >> are and stay true to that no matter what. Even if it means you're not > >>doing > >> what other people think you should be to be fitting in. > Especially in the > >> scene. > > > >-->This from somebody who is a KandEkid? Oh puhleez, I suggest you ask > >your high school English teacher on the finer points of irony. You are > >such an attention whore you might as well just walk around a party with > >pom-poms miss popularity. I wonder how many of your "friends" are actual > >nobodys in the scene...hmmm? I suppose if they aren't on the inside > >track, you aren't interested; wait, wouldn't that make you a ... > >groupie? I'm sorry dahlink... one does not cultivate fabulousness through > >association. Make yourself interesting first before even attempting such > >heights, cuz at this level luv, you might as well just be fake... whoops, > >you got that down already huh? > > > > > > > >> Maybe not everyone is as naturally high on life as me, but at least > >>stay > >> real. People will respect you more for it in the long run. I think it > >>would > >> really make me unconfortable if someone didn't like me and was > like, "OH > >>hi, > >> sweetie, I love you you look great," just because they felt obligated. > >> I have points, I have lot to say, but thoughts aren't forming really > >>well > >> right now and I'm going to bed. > > > >-->Do you really know what's real Patrice or is that your parent's credit > >card in your hand? Oh no cupcake...I don't feel obligated at > all, in fact, > >I would much rather ask you whom you stole that look from? I am glad to > >know that you still are able to fit thoughts into that cute > little head of > >yours, lord knows how difficult it is to do that while keeping track of > >all your tickle-me Elmo dolls. Yes, let's do stay real, but before I > >leave, I've been meaning to tell you... pink really doesn't become you, > >that wig you wore at the Happy Kid's Halloween made you look ghastly. At > >least nobody else knows about it ... er, wait; didn't somebody take a > >picture of you in that wig and plaster it all over a fag > magazine? Touche > >mon Ami ... that's what friends are for eh? > > > > > > > > > >:) > >Evil M&m > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 01:14:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10513 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 01:14:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 10495 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 01:14:51 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 01:14:51 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA03635; Fri, 7 May 1999 18:14:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id BAA07269; Sat, 8 May 1999 01:12:21 GMT From: "MooK<><" To: , "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" Subject: RE: old skool vs. new skool? Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 18:19:48 -0700 Message-ID: <005101be98f0$dd314800$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <926118586.14947.289@excite.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The problem I find is when people infringe on the rights of others. "New Skooler's" have a higher tendency to do this, and "Old Skooler's" have a higher tendency of noticing it. Hence, "New Skooler's" get the blame for all the ills of the scene. You start out meeting lots of people, and soon you know almost everyone. After a while you notice all these new people showing up. They're new so they don't understand all the lessons you had to learn and act "immature." Also, with all this new blood you don't know everyone anymore and a lot of the people you did know aren't around. So you blame all the new people, and get jaded. Then you either move on, or try and unite all the old people to relive the times you used to have, or deal with it and do what every feels good at the time. There are other options but those are the most common. How's that for a run-on thought =P Maybe that's a bunch of crap, maybe not. I do know that hangin out with my friends is fun. Electronic music is what I prefer to listen to. Raves offer a place for me to enjoy both. When I no longer enjoy going to raves, I'll stop going. Raves do not change people, experiences change people. If it takes a rave to have those experiences then go to raves; if it's something else then go do that. I will however say that children do not belong at raves. There minds and bodies aren't fully developed and they do not have the experience to know their boundaries. I do not care how mature they think they are, they still have a lot of growing up to do. =) MooK<>< From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 01:18:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11616 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 01:18:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 11600 invoked by uid 233); 8 May 1999 01:18:09 -0000 Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 18:18:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Lara To: Space201@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: MY BAD (bsp) Re: Harmony 3 - June 5th 1999 In-Reply-To: <6d7979e6.2464b4de@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi guys sorry to confuse you! Usually bsp's like this get caught by me and I delete, but this one is in SoCal and has such an interesting line-up, I figured I'd let it on through in case people were interested in making the trek to LA. Sorry to confuse you guys, next time I'll just keep you guys in oblivion;) haha justkiddin :P Love, Lara ---- "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." -- Oscar Wilde On Fri, 7 May 1999 Space201@aol.com wrote: > Los Angeles. > > n a message dated 5/7/99 1:58:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mdalal@ixpres.com > writes: > > << Okkkaaaayyy, > > i thought there was sumthin weird about the anniversary date for this > considering harmony just did theirs last year...what crew is puttin this on > then? Is this in the bay area or what? I'M CONFUZED! > > --madhvi >> > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 01:18:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12257 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 01:18:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 12249 invoked by uid 233); 8 May 1999 01:18:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 25520 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 21:53:30 -0000 Received: from law-f151.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.214) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 21:53:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 77468 invoked by uid 0); 7 May 1999 21:53:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19990507215303.77467.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.77.82.101 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 07 May 1999 14:53:03 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.77.82.101] From: "michael waldren" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Where are you? Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 14:53:03 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Paging TriXXXXe4. Havent heard from you in a while, was wondering where you were and what you were up to. Sorry to the sfraves list for the spam. PeaceOut Junglist Mikey From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 01:23:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14980 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 01:23:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 14970 invoked by uid 233); 8 May 1999 01:23:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 29541 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 23:30:13 -0000 Received: from spazmo.peacedividend.com (HELO mail.peacedividend.com) (208.25.76.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 May 1999 23:30:13 -0000 Received: from [208.25.76.69] (208.25.76.69) by mail.peacedividend.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.2.2); Fri, 7 May 1999 16:31:30 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: jessica@mail.peacedividend.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <926118586.14947.289@excite.com> Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 16:30:06 -0700 To: leslie.ayres@excite.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: old skool vs. new skool? Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Word. When that deadening feeling of complacency threatens to set in - hopefully before it reaches the point of feeling senior and superior (cause it's hard to look back clearly from there!) - that's when it's time to wake up and remember that the reason this scene (or anything else that is precious to you) is a chimeric, dynamic, vital thing. When we define something as 'ours' it takes on a sort of static attribute - and then it's not that precious thing anymore! Hm - there's two ways you can go from there. I think I'll go here Life is ever changing. You are a dynamic participant in this thing we call a scene. It's going to be both old hat and epiphanically new tomorrow - what it won't be is the same as it ever was. Once it's that, it's history. Me, I'm into history - as a foundation but also as a vital element helping us reach where we're going. And there are no proprietary rights on that, really, either. Don't forget that we're social animals - progress down our own personal paths is necessarily going to involve give and take from others. Kisses, Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 01:35:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21631 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 01:35:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 21614 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 01:35:38 -0000 Received: from shell.tsoft.com (root@198.144.192.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 01:35:38 -0000 Received: from dand.com (hurricane.dand.com [209.133.59.242]) by shell.tsoft.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA19179 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 18:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from royal [209.133.59.246] by dand.com (FTGate 2, 1, 2, 1); Fri, 07 May 99 18:21:15 -0700 From: "Joshua Goldberg" To: "SF raves" Subject: RE: old skool vs. new skool? Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 18:32:37 -0700 Message-ID: <001601be98f2$a7db0950$f63b85d1@royal.dand> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <005101be98f0$dd314800$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk When you say children dont belong at raves because they dont know their boundaries, i question the logic. first of all at what age does someone stop being a child? I know forty year olds who havent grown up yet. Another thing, do grown ups know their boundaries any better than kids? I have seen plenty of people older than me (i am seventeen) ODing or flippin out. If we can reach younger minds with the message of Peace Unity Love Respect than wouldnt that be better than kids joining scenes that promote violence and hate? How old do you consider people when they are children. I will agree that kids from 0-about 12 should not be at raves because i dont believe their "innocent" minds should be surrounded with drugs. Hugs and lollipops, Josh > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of MooK<>< > Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 6:20 PM > To: leslie.ayres@excite.com; Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys > Subject: RE: old skool vs. new skool? > > > The problem I find is when people infringe on the rights of others. "New > Skooler's" have a higher tendency to do this, and "Old Skooler's" have a > higher tendency of noticing it. Hence, "New Skooler's" get the > blame for all > the ills of the scene. > > You start out meeting lots of people, and soon you know almost everyone. > After a while you notice all these new people showing up. They're new so > they don't understand all the lessons you had to learn and act "immature." > Also, with all this new blood you don't know everyone anymore and a lot of > the people you did know aren't around. So you blame all the new > people, and > get jaded. Then you either move on, or try and unite all the old people to > relive the times you used to have, or deal with it and do what every feels > good at the time. There are other options but those are the most common. > How's that for a run-on thought =P > > Maybe that's a bunch of crap, maybe not. I do know that hangin out with my > friends is fun. Electronic music is what I prefer to listen to. > Raves offer > a place for me to enjoy both. When I no longer enjoy going to raves, I'll > stop going. > > Raves do not change people, experiences change people. If it > takes a rave to > have those experiences then go to raves; if it's something else then go do > that. > > I will however say that children do not belong at raves. There minds and > bodies aren't fully developed and they do not have the experience to know > their boundaries. I do not care how mature they think they are, they still > have a lot of growing up to do. > > =) > MooK<>< > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 01:44:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25749 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 01:44:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 25741 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 01:43:58 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 01:43:58 -0000 Received: from [209.75.52.211] (AM5-68-52-211.ixpres.com [209.75.52.211]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA13592; Fri, 7 May 1999 18:44:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.3.32.19990507132106.006c38bc@mail.ixpres.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 17:54:00 -0800 To: Reply Address , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: Re: Harmony 3 - June 5th 1999 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hmmm, i didn't even think i'd been on this list long enough to merit someone telling me to stop doing something...sorry if i've posted the word confuzed over 10,000 times! C O N F U S E D.......better? rrrooowwwrrrr. shit. By the way Jennifer Love, the fer in your little comment below is really spelled F O R! amazing isn't it? --madhvi >E>Okkkaaaayyy, >E> >E> i thought there was sumthin weird about the anniversary date for this >E>considering harmony just did theirs last year...what crew is puttin this on >E>then? Is this in the bay area or what? I'M CONFUZED! > > Fer godsakes, stop spelling confused 'CONFUZED'. > > Harmony 3 is being thrown by H3/Underground Source/Biohazard in > the Los Angeles Area. > > There is only one Harmony crew. > > Laurence > >[ tEArgAs aDDiCT >]------------------------------------------------------------- > Laurence Maar (Electrical Engineer / Masochist) > 805.685.9347 Home / 805.880.6046 VM-Pager >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Get Laid Tonight! Email: lion@engineering.ucsb.edu From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 01:44:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26510 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 01:44:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 26501 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 01:44:48 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 01:44:48 -0000 Received: from [209.75.52.211] (AM5-68-52-211.ixpres.com [209.75.52.211]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA13707 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 18:45:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 17:54:51 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: Re: Harmony 3 - June 5th 1999 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk alright!! got it all , thanks! luv & hugz,(or maybe i should write _hugs_ for those who have nothing better to do than nitpick creative spelling) madhvi >Biohazard productions and h3 are throwing this party, its going to be in LA >:o) its just called Harmony.. its not a crew name... > >peas, >,,^. .^,, > > > >|Okkkaaaayyy, >| >| i thought there was sumthin weird about the anniversary date for this >|considering harmony just did theirs last year...what crew is puttin this on >|then? Is this in the bay area or what? I'M CONFUZED! >| >|--madhvi >| >| > >________________________________________________________ >NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? >Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at >http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 01:48:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29162 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 01:48:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 29154 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 01:48:48 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 01:48:48 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (14417) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id yTGYa02301; Fri, 7 May 1999 21:47:19 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <6a21ada8.2464f1b0@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 21:47:28 EDT Subject: Re: old skool vs. new skool? To: jgoldberg@dand.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/7/1999 6:35:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jgoldberg@dand.com writes: << When you say children dont belong at raves because they dont know their boundaries, i question the logic. first of all at what age does someone stop being a child? I know forty year olds who havent grown up yet. Another thing, do grown ups know their boundaries any better than kids? I have seen plenty of people older than me (i am seventeen) ODing or flippin out. >> At 17 you just simply dont understand. Dont ask. Youll understand when you hit your late 20's. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 01:59:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2123 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 01:59:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 2110 invoked by uid 233); 8 May 1999 01:59:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 29823 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 01:49:27 -0000 Received: from mail.engr.ucsb.edu (128.111.27.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 01:49:27 -0000 Received: from silicon.ucsb.edu ([128.111.164.220]) by mail.engr.ucsb.edu with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10fwEo-0005ii-00; Fri, 7 May 1999 18:49:10 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 18:49:24 -0700 From: Jennifer Love Hewitt X-Sender: lion@silicon.ucsb.edu Reply-To: Reply Address To: Madhvi Dalal cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Harmony 3 - June 5th 1999 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Also, thanks for cross-posting my private reply to you onto SFR. I appreciate it. Laurence On Fri, 7 May 1999, Madhvi Dalal wrote: E>hmmm, i didn't even think i'd been on this list long enough to merit E>someone telling me to stop doing something...sorry if i've posted the word E>confuzed over 10,000 times! C O N F U S E D.......better? E>rrrooowwwrrrr. shit. By the way Jennifer Love, the fer in your little E>comment below is really spelled F O R! amazing isn't it? E> E>--madhvi E> E> E> E>>E>Okkkaaaayyy, E>>E> E>>E> i thought there was sumthin weird about the anniversary date for this E>>E>considering harmony just did theirs last year...what crew is puttin this on E>>E>then? Is this in the bay area or what? I'M CONFUZED! E>> E>> Fer godsakes, stop spelling confused 'CONFUZED'. E>> E>> Harmony 3 is being thrown by H3/Underground Source/Biohazard in E>> the Los Angeles Area. E>> E>> There is only one Harmony crew. E>> E>> Laurence E>> E>>[ tEArgAs aDDiCT E>>]------------------------------------------------------------- E>> Laurence Maar (Electrical Engineer / Masochist) E>> 805.685.9347 Home / 805.880.6046 VM-Pager E>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------- E>> Get Laid Tonight! Email: lion@engineering.ucsb.edu E> E> E> E> [ tEArgAs aDDiCT ]------------------------------------------------------------- Laurence Maar (Electrical Engineer / Masochist) 805.685.9347 Home / 805.880.6046 VM-Pager ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Get Laid Tonight! Email: lion@engineering.ucsb.edu From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 02:23:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9788 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 02:23:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 9779 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 02:23:44 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 02:23:44 -0000 Received: from Kitana3737@aol.com (89) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id cVMCa10991; Fri, 7 May 1999 22:20:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Kitana3737@aol.com Message-ID: <3ba68554.2464f953@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 22:20:03 EDT Subject: Re: old skool vs. new skool? To: mcarey@triad.com, leslie.ayres@excite.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/7/99 9:15:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mcarey@triad.com writes: << Raves do not change people, experiences change people. If it takes a rave to have those experiences then go to raves; if it's something else then go do that. >> "Where rock relates an experience (autobiographical or imaginary), rave constructs an experience." - Simon Reynolds ... therefore?? jk. :) okay i liked this though so i thought i`d share. muchlove, ~*MiCheLLe*~ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 04:46:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18554 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 04:46:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 18537 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 04:46:02 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 04:46:02 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com (14409) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vIUIa15866 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 00:45:04 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: <34ec2015.24651b50@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 00:45:04 EDT Subject: NRR: e and prozak To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i was wondering what the affects are on someone who is prescribed prozak and takes e is. is it more of a mental or physical effect? how long does the prozak stay in the body? is this dangerous? sorry i know this isnt the bestest place to post on e but i couldnt think of anyone else to write to and alt.rave isnt responding.......please no flames and could i get private replies? -aaron From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 05:45:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6218 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 05:45:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 6210 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 05:45:08 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 05:45:08 -0000 Received: from Markis1012@aol.com (8019) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vGDGa06455 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 01:44:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Markis1012@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 01:44:18 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: e and prozak To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Are you on prozac or something? I REALLY don't think it would be a good idea to do E on top of some prozac. I definitely would not recommend it!!! I sincerely hope you decide against it. makis(junglejunkie) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 06:06:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12980 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 06:06:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 12972 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 06:06:06 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 06:06:06 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com (14409) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vIITa13119 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 02:05:19 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: <39f46440.24652e1f@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 02:05:19 EDT Subject: NRR: got mah answer for e an prozak To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk thanks anyway! -aaron From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 06:58:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23385 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 06:57:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 22909 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 06:57:31 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 06:57:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19990508065057.17197.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [208.1.144.64] by attach1; Fri, 07 May 1999 23:50:57 PDT Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 23:50:57 -0700 (PDT) From: pj fuzzy Subject: ha ha ha i have taken over pjfuzzy's email To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ha HA ha ha h a now i can say things and everyone will think i am pj fuzzy. raves suck! i like elephant flipping! i have a crush on everyone! just kidding. it's the messiah. most of you don't know me, or pj, but i figured as long as he's letting me look at his mail and all. might as well fuck with him while he's letting me.... -messiah From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 07:02:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25897 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 07:02:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 25795 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 07:02:40 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 07:02:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19990508070102.9897.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [208.1.144.64] by web4; Sat, 08 May 1999 00:01:02 PDT Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 00:01:02 -0700 (PDT) From: pj fuzzy Subject: ha ha ha now he's playing south park pinball and not watching me! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i'm on the rag! i go to 1015! i only have two records! -pj From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 07:04:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26692 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 07:04:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 26681 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 07:04:35 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 07:04:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19990508064745.7729.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [208.1.144.64] by web1; Fri, 07 May 1999 23:47:45 PDT Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 23:47:45 -0700 (PDT) From: pj fuzzy Subject: the messiah sucking on porpoise To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk help i've been possessed by the evil messiah. this counts as nothing more than an nasty spam. but now he's playing south park. I really have crushes on you all and hope some day to make up for this tragic waste of bandwidth. pjf From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 16:52:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6666 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 16:52:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 6658 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 16:52:03 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 16:52:03 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (14410) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id oKMPa16238; Sat, 8 May 1999 12:51:03 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <8f7bddf8.2465c571@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 12:50:57 EDT Subject: Re: old skool vs. new skool? To: leslie.ayres@excite.com CC: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I love you too, Leslie! Actually, maybe my point came across a little crooked. I was focusing mostly on fake attitudes and lack of sincerity of people in the scene. Especially the new ones. What I meant about newbies not getting it was that a year or so ago, they were the kids that mocked me and looked down on our scene, the music,clothes, drugs, whatever. NOw, once they've popped a pill their lives have been changed and they're treating me like their new best friend. ANd personally that screams hypocrite to my face and it bothers me. It's an insult. Yeah, I don't hate these people; most of them are really nice. I'm not saying that being new and in love with the scene is bad.... god knows I was for almost forever.... I wish I was still there. It's great people are learning about our music and bringing something to our community. It's a personal anger that I have, and not everyone had to feel this way. I never claimed not to have been a little kid trying to party... in fact before I even knew the term instaraver I constantly called myself a september child. but Maybe that was more about my positive attitude towards the scene. So I guess now I'm an elitist, I do take newbies to parties when I have the chance. When SO Many people are coming in at once it's difficult to handle.. that and the combination of where our scene is at right now just frustrates me. Here's an example: A person I used to go to school with who I haven't heard from in a year (who shall remain nameless for obvious reasons) called me up the other day and told me this story: "HEY, Patrice! I haven't talked with you in hella days (yadda yadda) ANyways, I was in Tiajuana, you know, down in Mexico and I was tripping fucking out of my mind. well, yeah.. I was really tripping, but anyways so like the DJ threw down this terrible music, but like, now that I'm home I can't get it out of my head. ANything I could get my hands on, Drum and bass, house, trance.. OH! especially trance. I need your help!! how do I get to a rave? All my friends won't listen to techno and I HAVE to hear it again! Hey! want to go to a rave and do E with me?" but whatever.. I'm interested to see where this new wave of people takes us. Until then I'll be in grumpy raver mode! hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 17:07:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10922 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 17:07:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 10908 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 17:07:05 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 17:07:05 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (14410) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id uBBPa02444; Sat, 8 May 1999 13:04:53 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <763a3a28.2465c8b4@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 13:04:52 EDT Subject: Re: What raving means (on the navysatan tip) To: mlowdrma@ocf.berkeley.edu CC: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk << -->Do you really know what's real Patrice or is that your parent's credit card in your hand? Oh no cupcake...I don't feel obligated at all, in fact, I would much rather ask you whom you stole that look from? I am glad to know that you still are able to fit thoughts into that cute little head of yours, lord knows how difficult it is to do that while keeping track of all your tickle-me Elmo dolls. Yes, let's do stay real, but before I leave, I've been meaning to tell you... pink really doesn't become you, that wig you wore at the Happy Kid's Halloween made you look ghastly. At least nobody else knows about it ... er, wait; didn't somebody take a picture of you in that wig and plaster it all over a fag magazine? Touche mon Ami ... that's what friends are for eh? >> ALRIGHT! my parents are too poor to afford credit cards. ANd all my fur pants?!?! THEY'RE FAKE!!!! most of my clothes are just Hand-Me-Downs from PaulEWog... Some big mean Junglist stole my tickle me elmos and used them for hitting other candy kids over the head. Now I only have three of them and One tickle me cookie monster, but I can't count that high anyways so it doesn't matter. ANd yes, it's true they put that awful picture of me in XY.. now everyone will think I'm a drag queen!! OH wait, Minh! that must be the whole purpose of this letter... well don't worry sweetie.. not everyone can have their picture in a gay magazine, but I"m sure if you place a personals add plenty of boys will come a'runnin' ! YOU DAMN EVIL BASTARD! more wasted of bandwidth...... hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 17:10:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12419 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 17:10:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 12410 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 17:10:11 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 17:10:11 -0000 Received: from BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com (3941) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vYHMa04815; Sat, 8 May 1999 13:09:07 -0400 (EDT) From: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 13:09:07 EDT Subject: Waiting for the emergence of 2 separate scenes To: Sfraves@hyperreal.org, TeKnODiVa@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/8/99 9:52:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, TeKnODiVa@aol.com writes: << I'm interested to see where this new wave of people takes us. Until then I'll be in grumpy raver mode! >> More than a handful of people in our scene feel exactly like this right now...and to be honest, this summer is going to be even worse. There have been so many kids at my school who have been hearing about "raves" and now all they wanna do is go to take drugs and get on as many people as possible, without any regard for the music or respect for the scene. These kids are very wealthy and will have no problem paying for the parties and the drugs, which means that they will be providing the promoters with MAJOR cash flow...I'm not saying that I am never going to a massive again, because massives bring in some really talented dj's, but I have been very selective with the parties I have chosen to go to lately and I will continue to do so. >From all this hype with big parties and other people sharing the same feelings, I hope to see a surge in the ug scene... -=~*LaUrE@*~=- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 17:12:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13616 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 17:12:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 13606 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 17:12:26 -0000 Received: from law-f156.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.219) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 17:12:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 53349 invoked by uid 0); 8 May 1999 17:12:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19990508171226.53348.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.212.5 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 08 May 1999 10:12:25 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.212.5] From: "K Gray" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: old skool vs. new skool? Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 10:12:25 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >that kids from 0-about 12 should not be at raves because Except day raves (like Sunset) with their parents and far away from the music. I would like to make a plea for a little respect when you see my sprout at a Sunset party: play with us, share some toys, try not to smoke so much. Don't make him dance if he wants to play soccer. Thanks. >i dont believe >their "innocent" minds should be surrounded with drugs Only beer. And sometimes wine coolers. They are little sponges. They soak it all up. And, at some point, you will see yourself and your friends from their perspective. Remember that when you live your life: what would my 4-yr-old think of you? How would he describe you to his friends? You should hear him and his 4-yr-old pals talk about Burning Man. They aren't too worried about the nudity, but they respect the fire. They accept anything, but they will ask lots of questions about what they are seeing. Rambling over to Golden Gate Park, K From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 17:43:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19808 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 17:43:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 19388 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 17:43:03 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 17:43:03 -0000 Received: from Gammbino@aol.com (537) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vMERa02301 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 13:42:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Gammbino@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 13:42:19 EDT Subject: Feelings on §orta Old Ass DJ's To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone!! This has been buggin me for years sorta. I was wondering how do you all feel about DJ FrankieBones?¿? As him supposed to being one of the best if not the best DJ's on the East coast or something like that. I was just wonderin abit about that. Oh ya and does anyone know if he still mixes or whatever? Thankz MuCh PLUR ^v^Kent From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 17:52:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23928 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 17:52:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 23918 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 17:52:02 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 17:52:02 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D946RM4L; Sat, 08 May 1999 13:51:30 EDT To: Gammbino@aol.com Cc: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 10:55:33 -0700 Subject: Re: Feelings on 'orta Old Ass DJ's Message-ID: <19990508.105535.-19391.5.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 4-23 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm sure he's still spinning, but I know he doesn't come up to northern cali all that often (hey, promoters, I know this dude is probably kinda on the expensive side to book and fly out and all that, but I'd be hella happy to see him out here. Just a thought.) The funny thing is that I listen mostly to jungle, and he's my favorite dj. Peace, Theresa On Sat, 8 May 1999 13:42:19 EDT Gammbino@aol.com writes: >Hello everyone!! This has been buggin me for years sorta. I was >wondering how >do you all feel about DJ FrankieBones??? As him supposed to being one >of the >best if not the best DJ's on the East coast or something like that. I >was >just wonderin abit about that. Oh ya and does anyone know if he still >mixes >or whatever? >Thankz MuCh > > PLUR > ^v^Kent > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 17:52:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24871 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 17:52:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 24862 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 17:52:34 -0000 Received: from sos87.mry.redshift.com (HELO neptune.log) (209.54.206.87) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 17:52:34 -0000 Received: from pm6-50.mry.redshift.com by neptune.log with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id KD6KTQHG; Sat, 8 May 1999 10:52:19 -0700 Message-ID: <013401be997a$90537140$32c4cccf@soscom.com> From: "Susan L. Gwartney" To: "SFRaves" References: <199905061835.LAA18363@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: E question????? Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 10:45:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > Everyone should realize that when you do any drug there is a very small > chance that an allergic reaction to some chemical or something could > happen! > > Rafie Good point Rafie. If you are going to use drugs, please be responsible.. find out all you can about the drug, about its side effects and about possible drug interaction with any prescribed medications you might be taking. Someone who has had a seizure while taking illicit drugs should seek a medical diagnosis as to the exact cause for the seizure.. seizures can be caused by a number of serious problems and if someone were to write it off to drug use they may be masking a future health risk. There are a lot of informative resources on the net on drug interaction as well as on potential causes for seizure. If anyone is interested in finding out more about this stuff, email me privately and I will send you some URLs. Have a great weekend everyone and be safe. =) Sooz From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 17:52:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25278 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 17:52:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 25168 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 17:52:41 -0000 Received: from web220.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.120) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 17:52:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19990508175312.20499.rocketmail@web220.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.170.33.84] by web220.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 08 May 1999 10:53:12 PDT Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 10:53:12 -0700 (PDT) From: The Red Stickman Subject: Re: old skool vs. new skool? To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk But that's just the logical progression of things, Trice. There's not much we can do about it...change is inevitable, the question is: are we as ravers adaptable enough to stay one step ahead? I say yes! The gradual increase in popularity of our community forces us to think of new things, new ideas, and new concepts. If we weren't forced to change, we would be stuck in a rut, doing the same things, going to the same parties, weekend in, weekend out. How boring! [no offense for those who like it, but think: the "heavy metal" scene...] I am happy for the changes. They have gotten me up off my ass, and prompted me to do something about it. And I am glad you are on my crew, because you will have a say in one of the many new directions our extended family will travel in. love, michael o)-< --- TeKnODiVa@aol.com wrote: [snip] > So I guess now I'm an elitist, I do take newbies to > parties when I have the > chance. When SO Many people are coming in at once > it's difficult to handle.. > that and the combination of where our scene is at > right now just frustrates > me. > > Here's an example: > A person I used to go to school with who I > haven't heard from in a year > (who shall remain nameless for obvious reasons) > called me up the other day > and told me this story: > "HEY, Patrice! I haven't talked with you in > hella days (yadda yadda) > ANyways, I was in Tiajuana, you know, down in Mexico > and I was tripping > fucking out of my mind. well, yeah.. I was really > tripping, but anyways so > like the DJ threw down this terrible music, but > like, now that I'm home I > can't get it out of my head. ANything I could get > my hands on, Drum and > bass, house, trance.. OH! especially trance. I need > your help!! how do I get > to a rave? All my friends won't listen to techno > and I HAVE to hear it > again! Hey! want to go to > a rave and do E with me?" > > but whatever.. I'm interested to see > where this new wave of people > takes us. Until then I'll be in grumpy raver mode! > > hugs n'stuff, > trice the tekno diva > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 18:36:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6720 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 18:36:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 6704 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 18:36:43 -0000 Received: from diana.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.239) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 18:36:43 -0000 Received: from [130.212.201.77] (madmax-3.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.3]) by diana.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA00589 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 11:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 11:29:51 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Michael Standish Subject: Re: What raving means (on the navysatan tip) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > you really know what's real Patrice or is that your parent's credit > card in your hand? Oh no cupcake...I don't feel obligated at all, in fact, > I would much rather ask you whom you stole that look from? I am glad to > know that you still are able to fit thoughts into that cute little head of Oh no you didn't. Minh you sorry little bitch. What crawled up your ass and died? Oh wait I suppose I should say: what did the man you went home with shove up your ass too crawl around and die? Well fuck off, felch that poor dead gerbil out of you ass, and chill. You're just jealous of 'Trice, because even though you're the tiniest little midget this side of the freakshow, you'll still never in a million years be close to as cute as her. ******Giant sig added to protest against quoting entire threads.***** U UUUUUU U UUUUUUU UU U U UU UUUU lll i h h U UU U UU ll i hh UU UUU UU ll r r i c hh UU UUU UU ll rr rr ii ccc hh h UU UUU UU ll rrrr rr iii cccch hhhh UU UUU UU ll r rr ii cc c hhh UUU U U UU ll r ii cc hh UUU U UUU ll r ii cc hh UUUU U U UUUU ll rrr ii ccc h hh UUUUUU UUU llll rrrr iii cccc hhhh UUU U l r i c h h hh h From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 19:10:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17762 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 19:10:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 17754 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 19:10:09 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 19:10:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990508185316.19118.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [208.1.144.64] by web1; Sat, 08 May 1999 11:53:16 PDT Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 11:53:16 -0700 (PDT) From: pj fuzzy Subject: Re: the messiah sucking on porpoise To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: Anachra@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk sorry- I didn't want that to happen the messiah just can't hold his liquor >:)~ pjf did anyone go to the erotic dancers benefit at the roxie?? we were initially supposed to go to that last night, but ended up at a korean bbq place gleefully drinking tsing-tao and frying up meat(did you know that they actually offered pork rectum- crazy...) ---Anachra@aol.com wrote: > > c'mon now kiddos....spam spam spam on eggs! spam spam spam aol and make my > connection really slow...spam spam spam me and watch me cry....spam spam spam > is dry! > > --spacey > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 19:18:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22241 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 19:18:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 22226 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 19:18:27 -0000 Received: from netcom11.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.121) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 19:18:27 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom11.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id MAA09849; Sat, 8 May 1999 12:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 12:18:21 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Re: Feelings on 'orta Old Ass DJ's To: E-Bumpers By the Bay In-Reply-To: <19990508.105535.-19391.5.DaDope@juno.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk the best thing about Frankie Bones is getting to hear him go off "Yo yo yo this is the sound of the Brooklyn Underground DJ Frankie Bones kicking real style while all the perpetratin' mutha fuckas try to to pass of their whack bullshit while I'm still real and the best the original kickin' it live back from 85 and makin' it mine in 99 I'm outta here peace!" :D that guy is always going off with shit like that and it's soooo funny! i've even got a Frankie Bones scratch record somewhere and it's got him going off on it! :D :D :D On Sat, 8 May 1999 dadope@juno.com wrote: > I'm sure he's still spinning, but I know he doesn't come up to northern > cali all that often (hey, promoters, I know this dude is probably kinda > on the expensive side to book and fly out and all that, but I'd be hella > happy to see him out here. Just a thought.) The funny thing is that I > listen mostly to jungle, and he's my favorite dj. > > Peace, > Theresa > > On Sat, 8 May 1999 13:42:19 EDT Gammbino@aol.com writes: > >Hello everyone!! This has been buggin me for years sorta. I was > >wondering how > >do you all feel about DJ FrankieBones??? As him supposed to being one > >of the > >best if not the best DJ's on the East coast or something like that. I > >was > >just wonderin abit about that. Oh ya and does anyone know if he still > >mixes > >or whatever? > >Thankz MuCh > > > > PLUR > > ^v^Kent > > > > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 19:28:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24906 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 19:28:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 24888 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 19:28:16 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 19:28:16 -0000 Received: from Little8red@aol.com (8071) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id oUIHa07564; Sat, 8 May 1999 15:27:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Little8red@aol.com Message-ID: <5c7e396f.2465ea23@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 15:27:31 EDT Subject: Re: old skool vs. new skool? To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, leslie.ayres@excite.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You know, I can completely relate to what you said in the two paragraphs that I snipped out.... When I started raving in high school ('92) there was a group of people who decided to become skinheads... a lifestyle/philosophy that is, in my opinion, the exact opposite of the unity vibe that raving inspires... opposite of plur. About two years ago, these same people started throwing parties, doing the drugs, wearing the clothes, and spouting plur-isms left and right. etc. Not to be cynical, but it makes me sick to my stomach. I would be very happy if these people had had a change of heart about their beliefs, but that isn't the case. They like the music, and the lifestyle.... Except they are missing out on the best part... I guess it doesn't make me sick, it makes me sad. -Alex In a message dated 5/8/99 9:52:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, TeKnODiVa@aol.com writes: > Actually, maybe my point came across a little crooked. I was focusing > mostly on fake attitudes and lack of sincerity of people in the scene. > Especially the new ones. > What I meant about newbies not getting it was that a year or so ago, they > were the kids that mocked me and looked down on our scene, the music, clothes, > drugs, whatever. > > NOw, once they've popped a pill their lives have been changed and they're > treating me like their new best friend. ANd personally that screams > hypocrite to my face and it bothers me. It's an insult. Yeah, I don't > hate these people; most of them are really nice. I'm not saying that being new > and in love with the scene is bad.... god knows I was for almost forever.... > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 20:43:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22303 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 20:43:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 22287 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 20:43:21 -0000 Received: from pimout2-ext.prodigy.net (HELO pimout2-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.59.113) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 20:43:21 -0000 Received: from prodigy.net (SNFCB112-44.splitrock.net [209.156.147.251]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA118018; Sat, 8 May 1999 16:43:18 -0400 Message-ID: <3734A12F.5C6DE8FE@prodigy.net> Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 13:40:15 -0700 From: JOELANZON Reply-To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gammbino@aol.com CC: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Feelings on =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A7orta?= Old Ass DJ's References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Frankie Bones is still a VERY active DJ and producer. He DJs all over the world and has many releases on many different labels. I believe his newest release is Ghetto Technics #10 on Ghetto Technics (his own label). It just came out this past week or so. Frankie started out the original Sonic Grooves record store in Brooklyn which is now manned by Heather Hart and Adam X and is based in New York City. You can visit the site which is WWW.SONICGROOVE.COM. If you're ever in NYC then check out this store it ROCKS! I had the pleasure of meeting him once when my friend brought him out to play here in SF. Cool dude. anyways, peace- Joe Lanzon Gammbino@aol.com wrote: > Hello everyone!! This has been buggin me for years sorta. I was wondering how > do you all feel about DJ FrankieBones?¿? As him supposed to being one of the > best if not the best DJ's on the East coast or something like that. I was > just wonderin abit about that. Oh ya and does anyone know if he still mixes > or whatever? > Thankz MuCh > > PLUR > ^v^Kent From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 21:30:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7074 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 21:30:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 7065 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 21:30:18 -0000 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (140.142.33.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 21:30:18 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id OAA25518; Sat, 8 May 1999 14:30:15 -0700 Message-ID: <008601be999a$1aa225c0$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: , Cc: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Feelings_on_=A7orta_Old_Ass_DJ's?= Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 14:31:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In fact, Mr. Bones is spinning tonight at Invasion in Seattle. A friend of mine are making the trek to see him (and Bad Boy Bill, DJ Dan, Diesilboy and a myriad of others) at Unity in Pittburg on June 19th. Having never seen him in personum, I am thrilled! Anyone else heading to this party per chance? Prolly not, but thought I might ask... :) Peace, Alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- Whatever happened to the MC Times done changed for the MC Every woman and man wanna MC But for what, I'll tell ya MCin' ain't for you. -=- De La Sol -----Original Message----- From: JOELANZON To: Gammbino@aol.com Cc: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Date: Saturday, May 08, 1999 1:43 PM Subject: Re: Feelings on §orta Old Ass DJ's >Frankie Bones is still a VERY active DJ and producer. He DJs all over the world >and has many releases on many different labels. I believe his newest release is >Ghetto Technics #10 on Ghetto Technics (his own label). It just came out this >past week or so. > >Frankie started out the original Sonic Grooves record store in Brooklyn which is >now manned by Heather Hart and Adam X and is based in New York City. You can >visit the site which is WWW.SONICGROOVE.COM. If you're ever in NYC then check >out this store it ROCKS! > >I had the pleasure of meeting him once when my friend brought him out to play >here in SF. Cool dude. > >anyways, peace- Joe Lanzon > > >Gammbino@aol.com wrote: > >> Hello everyone!! This has been buggin me for years sorta. I was wondering how >> do you all feel about DJ FrankieBones?¿? As him supposed to being one of the >> best if not the best DJ's on the East coast or something like that. I was >> just wonderin abit about that. Oh ya and does anyone know if he still mixes >> or whatever? >> Thankz MuCh >> >> PLUR >> ^v^Kent > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 22:26:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28547 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 22:26:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 28536 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 22:26:48 -0000 Received: from linex1.linex.com (HELO relay.linex.net) (199.4.98.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 22:26:48 -0000 Received: from linex4.linex.com (linex4.linex.com [199.4.98.14]) by relay.linex.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA08258; Sat, 8 May 1999 15:26:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linex.linex.com by linex4.linex.com (NX5.67c/NX3.0S) id AA27345; Sat, 8 May 99 15:26:45 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 15:26:44 -0700 (PDT) From: aminita To: HppyXTC@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: i will be thereRe: Spread the Word? In-Reply-To: <53b4f484.246381d0@aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i will be there. Right in front of the Riddler while he is playing his set! shira On Thu, 6 May 1999 HppyXTC@aol.com wrote: > Vorg Vorg Vorg...thats all I hear... > > Anyone going to Spread the Word? I'll see you there! :) > > Love, Heather > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 23:16:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16086 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 23:16:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 16078 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 23:16:47 -0000 Received: from x15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 23:16:47 -0000 Received: (from elias_smith@juno.com) by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D95RCZT8; Sat, 08 May 1999 19:16:39 EDT To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 02:34:17 -0700 Subject: The party in the park today Message-ID: <19990419.023418.-804895.0.Elias_Smith@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-4,6,9-11,15-49 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: the town drunk Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello? Anybody here? Anyone?!?! Oh, everybody must be at the party in the park today! I couldn't go. I accidentally locked myself in my closet. It's pretty lonely in here. What? Of course I keep my computer in my closet! Doesn't everyone? What the hell kinda question is that? Sheesh... I really have to pee though. I sure wish I could get out of here. Let's see, it's 4 right now, Jason must be spinning right now! Oh darn, haven't heard Dyloot spin 5000 times before!! Wish I kept beer in my closet instead of my computer. Nah, then I would have to pee even worse. Jeez, It would probably be pretty fun to be in the park today. Some dude I met on the internet a few minutes ago said it was pretty nice outside today. I can't tell, becuase I'm stuck in the freagin' closet!!!! $%#^&@&%$!!!!! I'd kill for a beer. or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 23:18:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16909 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 23:18:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 16899 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 23:18:04 -0000 Received: from f231.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.122) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 23:18:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 54466 invoked by uid 0); 8 May 1999 23:14:45 -0000 Message-ID: <19990508231445.54465.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.171.134.229 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 08 May 1999 16:14:45 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.171.134.229] From: "Beetle Juice" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Meeting Place at VORG!!!! Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 16:14:45 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It has been scientifically proven that a full grown Umpu Lumpu, when thrown from a four story building, will NOT splat. In fact they will bounce three to five times and spontaneously combust. Question: What the hell is an Umpu Lumpu? Answer: Is a distant relative to the Papa Lapas. To: Random individuals will to listen. Just wonted to know if anyone out there is going to Vorg (is this a dumb question?). If so, is there a meeting place. Would be kinda cool to put faces to names. Peace out. E.L.E. ( Everybody Love Everybody) Beetle Juice & RobinT From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 08 23:50:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23662 invoked by uid 6000); 8 May 1999 23:50:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 23651 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 23:50:42 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 May 1999 23:50:42 -0000 Received: from BodhiInSF@aol.com (14386) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vMBKa03060 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 19:50:03 -0400 (EDT) From: BodhiInSF@aol.com Message-ID: <9c2766b.246627aa@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 19:50:02 EDT Subject: Little Kids At Raves/Old People At Raves To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I wish we were like many places like Europe, where people have overcome somewhat the issues we in the US are paranoid about; around generations, gender, sexual preference, music, drugs, ect. I wish raves were like Love Parade where the young and old, moms and dads along their families, couples and single people, everyone comming together and dancing as one family. Another thing that has been lost in our society is the sense of community. It's each to him/her self. We segregate and divide people and ourselves into age, gender, racial, national, cultural, sexual, political, social, religious, economic groups and subgroups. We have set ridged boundaries and what is considered appropriate by what group we have been assigned to or labeled as. IM sure many of you have heard terminologies like stereotypes and "age appropriate"? Many times, we think our segregated group is superior than another, and that explains why we have social/economic injustice, wars, discriminations, poverty, and repression. Your too young to go to raves, your too old, gays don't have an attraction to the opposite sex, straights don't look at guys, poor people don't become educated, the rich are to be, and so on, and so forth. Whether your considered mentally ill, socially deviant, or antisocial depends on how you conform or don't conform to the labels and to an assigned group. Little kids are expected to play with toys, big kids don't. Babies suck on binkies, not big people for god's sake! It's OK for teenagers to dance and be flamboyant, because they are "immature," adults are expected to settle down and begin the process of growing old and dying. Now, take little kids showing up at raves. If we were In some places in Europe, or if we were like a tribe in the jungles of South America or in the savannas of Africa, this would be no issue. Social gatherings, especially revolving around dancing is a tribal thing. Everyone participates, and young and old are expected to dance together. Has anyone ever been to powwows? If you ever had the privilege of going to one, the same principle of community is there. When there is an open tribal dance, everyone dances together. There is no young peoples dance over here, an old peoples dance over there, a dance only for this group of people and a dance for that group of people. There is no segregation of people like in our society. But were in the good old USA The land of virtues and morality. Little kids are not to dance, like having sex or other "vices." We must protect them from being corrupted by vices, and the older are expected to grow up, get married and settle down to a nice Pleasentville experience, and be an example to the young kids. While places like Europe have become more socially mature, and tribes in South America and Africa have never became socially immature in the first place, America is like a paranoid neurotic who is obsessed about it's virtues and morality to the point of going crazy, and is in the process of having a major nervous breakdown and self destructing. But that's another post. But the point is: should little kids be going to raves? I answer that question partly by asking another question: should older people be going to raves? What is the "appropriate" age of a raver? Who has the right to decide this? Shall we depend on laws to settle this, like we do with so many other things in our lives? I guess if we were in places like Europe or South America there would not be much of a problem with this issue. But were not. Here, the problem with little kids being at raves is kids that probably have no family life. Most likely these are kids who have been either metaphorically or intentionally abandoned by their parent(s) and are directionless, or are kids that are growing up faster than what our age appropriate time schedule has allowed. If we were at a party like Love Parade, or in a tribal setting in Africa, or at a powwow, there would be no problem with this because the whole family and all ages would be participating. But because most of our rave dance culture is often devoid of whole community participation, little kids who show up at parties often go because mom or dad, or both, are out getting drunk, getting rich, or doing something else that is neglecting them. Or you have the situation where you have kids that are growing up fast and their maturity level is more advanced than many other kids their age, and are not emotionally and socially 14 or 15 anymore, but more like 19 or 20. They are exacerbated by parents and society who doesn't recognize their advance maturity. Going to raves are like a rebellion to their assigned "age appropriate" role and a statement of independence. Naturally they want to go out and dance, and not sit at home and be a little child anymore. That is nature's proclivity. This can be positive or negative, depending on what they are learning at raves. But to me, these kind of kids often are the ones who turn out really well at raves. I have more than often met kids who were like 15 or 16 and blew me away at their insights and maturity. I thought I was talking to someone in their 20's! Now, because the former group of kids (neglected ones) often come without any family structure, and often because they want to fit in, more than often pick up the negative things that goes on at raves. They have no family life and this is the next best thing to having one. Where else do they get attention and have some form of stability? Like, why do other kids like them get involved in gangs and cults and neo nazi groups? This (kids at raves) would not be a bad thing if these kids were being taken care of by the older kids and were being taught the right or more positive things. They show up because they have no other place to go, no other place to be given attention and feel connected to something and people. There in lies the paradox: we don't want them in because we are afraid they are going to get into trouble or cause trouble, yet they have no other place to go; parents who most likely don't give a fuck about them and where they are at 3am on a Sunday morning; if they were not at a rave, then they would be on the streets really getting into trouble and picking up negative habits. If raves were really like a real family, and more positive things were happening there, and people really loved and cared about each other. If raves were truly more a community event, I would be more enthusiastic about young kids going. So, they show up anyway, whether we like it or not. Shall we turn them away and cast them out into the streets to be readily picked up by gangs and political/social cults and drug dealers? And if we embrace them in our scene, what examples are we going to be for them? What will they learn and pick up from you and I? Will the rave scene be a family they most chances don't have? Or will raves be another form of exploitation and corruption of them? Will they be any better or no worse hanging on the streets? Will they learn the values of PLUR at raves? Or will they learn how to do candy flip and finger girls in the chill room? What have you to teach them? What kind of example are you to them? What will your conduct at raves teach them? In what direction will you influence them? They are looking at you and I you know! I wish all peace, love and HUGS! ---Bodhi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 00:01:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26229 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 00:00:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 26220 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 00:00:54 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 00:00:54 -0000 Received: from TriXXXXe4@aol.com (14438) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vFNTa24056 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 20:00:11 -0400 (EDT) From: TriXXXXe4@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 20:00:10 EDT Subject: *SAVING THE SCENE* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk READ THIS LETTER IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOO UNDERSTAND......AND FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS!!!! LOVE , LINZ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi! To all my friends, who aren't in DC! A lot has been going on with the rave scene here, that I want you to be aware of. This is an incredibly long letter, and I'm sorry for that, but it is really important to us all. As you may or may not know, the Washington, DC Fox affiliate, WTTG-TV Fox Channel 5, aired a tabloid-like expose on Wednesday, May 5th on their 10 o'clock news. This segment exposed the nightclub Nation, which houses Buzz every Friday night. Reporter, Elisabeth Leamy went undercover with hidden cameras for four nights at Buzz. She set out with the intention of exposing a seedy, hedonistic, Sodom & Gomorra -type atmosphere which promotes blatant drug use, sex, and general lawlessness. Leamy produced a completely one-sided, biased report. She was unethical and unprofessional in her duties as a journalist. Since the segment aired, Buzz has been shut down "permanently." We as ravers are one community. Whether you are in DC, Maryland, Florida, Atlanta, or Nebraska! If we truly believe in unity, NOW is the time to show it. Is PLUR something we truly live by? Or just something to say so people think your hip and old school? Get it together kids! Show Fox 5 and everyone that the rave-community as a whole WILL NOT stand for this! I want Fox to get letters from California, Montana, Texas, and everywhere in between!! I want them to see how strong we truly are. SO, please, if you love and respect your scene, fight for it! It may be out of your area, but your town may be next. We've seen what can happen when people let the media and the lawmakers control they're scene- TAMPA!! Don't let that happen to DC! In response to this one-sided attack on our lifestyle and family, a few of us here in DC organized the Rave Freedom Protest Rally, held last night outside Fox 5. Ed had an idea to hold a public protest- Spacechild and I jumped on it and made and copied 1000 fliers we distributed at Tracks and Fever Thursday night. Friday, I got the permit to hold the protest and printed up 600 more fliers to distribute at local shops. Well-over 300 kids showed up to protest against Fox 5's muckraking. We were all dressed in yellow to symbolize "yellow journalism." ((Yellow Journalism has been most prevalent in the late 19th century. It is a journalistic tactic that thrives off the motto "Damn the truth, full speed ahead!" William Randolph Hearst pioneered this muckraking tactic by promoting color, cartoons, voice-overs- anything flashy and dramatic which has less to do with the truth and more to do with propelling gossip and rumors. Sorry for the history lesson.)) Keri Medei, Robert Gray, and Kurt Stephan Gluck were a few of the people who mass produced fliers and handed them out at the rally to educate the viewers. Sarah S, Melzie, Keri, and many others brought signs. Mary Morris and I both brought yellow balloons and she was equipped with her usual Mary Poppins sized bad of goodies. Some kids brought drums, some threw glowsticks, some brought extra material to make signs, some brought candy, we had tons of people dancing. We demonstrated, peacefully and respectfully from 9pm-midnight. Jeffrey Shawn Cochran video taped the entire protest from across the street, and RaveLinks covered the event as well. News teams from ABC, NBC,and Fox were there filming the protest as well as reporters and photographers from City Paper and the Washington post. The protest was announced on WHFS 99.1. Tim Sykes did a great job of contacting the media. He said this about WHFS: "HFS was behind us all the way. They were telling people about the protest. They even sent out a song for Nation and the ravers fri morning. It was 'Fight For Your Right To Party.' They even wanted us to call them from the rally and talk to them live on the air, but we could not get though to them." The headline in today's WP reads: "Fans of Rave Music Assail TV Drug Story: Protest at WTTG Loud but Peaceful." The full article is featured below. We got our message across beautifully! I cannot even begin to describe the rally. It was the most amazing thing I have witnessed in my 7 years in this scene. I have attached a copy of the flier we circulated before hand, and excerpts from DCRavers posts on the rally. Also, I have written a petition to Fox 5. Anyone who would like me to put their name on it can e-mail me with the following information: Your full name ((this means, your birth name- not a stage name!)) and city & state. Thank you all very much for reading this, I know it is really long. Thanks also for your support, our scene would die with out it! A lot of people are working hard to show the media and lawmakers that ravers are NOT deliquent junkies- do your part! I know this is all sounding like an advertisement for the Army, I just really want to fix what a select few fucked up for us. Because the scene is so controversial, it is equally fragile. Protect it! If there is anything you disagree with, if you have any comments or suggestions- EMAIL ME! Communication rocks! If you would like to distribute fliers and petitions in your area (even if your out of state!!) e-mail me personally, as I am not on any of these mailing lists. The fliers give a recap of the situation and urge people to write to Fox and the DC Delegate, Norton in protest of unfair reporting. ((I'm sorry if you got this letter twice.)) Much love, Jessica RaveAnggel@aol.com AIM: RaveAnggel ICQ: 26562211 *Insofar as we believe in morality we pass sentence on existence* Nietzsche From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 02:35:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 830 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 02:35:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 817 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 02:35:21 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.13) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 02:35:21 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA17519; Sat, 8 May 1999 21:34:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca45-17.ix.netcom.com(209.110.235.17) by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma017505; Sat May 8 21:34:22 1999 Message-ID: <001801be99c4$3abda760$03000004@ix.netcom.com> From: "Happy Kids" To: Cc: References: <34ec2015.24651b50@aol.com> Subject: Re: e and prozac Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 19:32:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey, this is my input on the subject from having a few chemically inbalanced peeps in my family: if someone is taking prozac, it means that they are chemically inbalanced and they need to take "happy drugs" so they don't get depressed. anyone taking anti-depressants or any other kind of psychoactive drug SHOULD NEVER take any hallucinogens or amphetemines or anything else that f*#ks with your mental system. i hope you all have noticed how your body and mind feels after a night out with anything other than pot or alcohol. sometimes it can affect your moods for as much as a week or two afterwards. i know it has with me in the past. PLEASE be careful!!! DO NOT take hard drugs if you are chemically inbalanced or might POSSIBLY be. it's so dangerous! you can really get your brain into a bad state. thanks for posting this question - i'd never quite thought too much about it before. if anyone has questions about this topic, ask a psychiatric specialist (just not yours =). they know all about drugs, legal or illegal, and can tell you how that may affect your mind and body. remember - there's nothing illegal about questions and doctors want to help people..... lotsa love -i ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 9:45 PM Subject: NRR: e and prozak > i was wondering what the affects are on someone who is prescribed prozak and > takes e is. is it more of a mental or physical effect? how long does the > prozak stay in the body? is this dangerous? > sorry i know this isnt the bestest place to post on e but i couldnt > think of anyone else to write to and alt.rave isnt responding.......please no > flames > and could i get private replies? > > -aaron > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 02:51:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4765 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 02:51:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 4736 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 02:51:30 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 02:51:30 -0000 Received: from SpNkTrVisN@aol.com (14369) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vFKIa04195; Sat, 8 May 1999 22:50:57 -0400 (EDT) From: SpNkTrVisN@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 22:50:57 EDT Subject: ***need vorg tickets!*** To: sfraaves-owen@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk anyone in the area have any vorg pre sale tickets? in desperate need. if so page 925 274 6076 with #420 so i know its you. i could pick them up pretty much anywhere so gimme a page if so..thanks a lot -ever ps-need anywhere between 1 and 3. thnx From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 02:54:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5737 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 02:54:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 5718 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 02:54:53 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 02:54:53 -0000 Received: from SpNkTrVisN@aol.com (14369) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHXRa16144; Sat, 8 May 1999 22:54:20 -0400 (EDT) From: SpNkTrVisN@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 22:54:19 EDT Subject: !!!need vorg tickets!!! To: sfraves-owen@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk anyone in the area have any vorg pre sale tickets? in desperate need. if so page 925 274 6076 with #420 so i know its you. i could pick them up pretty much anywhere so gimme a page if so..thanks a lot -tim ps-need anywhere between 1 and 3. thnx From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 03:25:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13447 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 03:25:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 13439 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 03:25:35 -0000 Received: from mole.slip.net (HELO beaver.slip.net) (207.171.193.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 03:25:35 -0000 Received: from [209.209.14.4] (helo=maxik) by mole.slip.net with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 10gKDa-0001sh-00 for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Sat, 8 May 1999 20:25:31 -0700 Message-ID: <000201be99ca$c4f84100$040ed1d1@maxik.slip.net> From: "Maxik" To: Subject: Fw: Important Information!!! PLEASE READ AND SPREAD AROUND TO PPL IN BAY AREA Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 23:18:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk -----Original Message----- From: Max.Safiullin@candescent.com To: maxik@slip.net Cc: andrew@stranger.com Date: Thursday, May 06, 1999 10:12 AM Subject: Important Information > > > >---------------------- Forwarded by Max Safiullin/Candescent on 05/06/99 10:09 >AM --------------------------- > > >Ravil Safiullin >05/06/99 09:21 AM > >To: Max Safiullin/Candescent@Candescent >cc: > >Subject: Important Information > > >---------------------- Forwarded by Ravil Safiullin/Candescent on 05/06/99 09:19 >AM --------------------------- > > >Megawati Tanudjaja on 05/05/99 03:43:14 PM > >To: >cc: (bcc: Ravil Safiullin/Candescent) > >Subject: Important Information > > > > >Hello, this is to warn every one of a new thing happening in communities > as a gang initiation and such. If you care about anyone, please forward > this to them immediately so they can learn of the possible harm. Even > if you don't read this, at least forward it to people. > > Hello, my name is Tina Strongman and I work at a police station, as a > phone operator for 911. Lately, we've received many phone calls > pertaining to a new sort of problem that has arisen in the inner cities, > and is now working it's way to smaller towns. It seems that a new form > of gang initiation is to go find as many pay phones as possible and put a > mixture of LSD and Strychnine onto the buttons. This mixture is deadly > to the human touch, and apparently, this has killed some people on the > east coast. Strychnine is a chemical used in rat poison and is easily > separated from the rest of the chemicals. When mixed with LSD, it > creates a substance that is easily absorbed into the human flesh, and >highly > fatal. > > > >> > > > > Please be careful if you are using a pay phone anywhere. You may > want to wipe it off, or just not use one at all. If you have any > questions, you can contact me at the links listed below. > Please be very careful. > > Let your friends and family know about this potential hazard. Thank > you. > > Tina Strongman > Email - > tinastrongman@hotmail.com > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 04:15:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25080 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 04:15:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 25071 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 04:15:47 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 04:15:47 -0000 Received: from SpNkTrVisN@aol.com (2615) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vEIDa16495 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 00:15:02 -0400 (EDT) From: SpNkTrVisN@aol.com Message-ID: <288c945a.246665c6@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 00:15:02 EDT Subject: **need vorg tickets** To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk anyone in the area have any vorg pre sale tickets? in desperate need. if so page 925 274 6076 with #420 so i know its you. i could pick them up pretty much anywhere so gimme a page if so..thanks a lot -tim ps-need anywhere between 1 and 3. thnx From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 04:37:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28851 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 04:37:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 28830 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 04:36:59 -0000 Received: from f14.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.25) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 04:36:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 52010 invoked by uid 0); 9 May 1999 04:36:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19990509043632.52009.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.85.166.74 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 08 May 1999 21:36:32 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.85.166.74] From: "Wayne Radinsky" To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: e and prozak Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 21:36:32 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com > >i was wondering what the affects are on someone who is prescribed prozak >and >takes e is. is it more of a mental or physical effect? Both of these primarily affect the brain. However, any drug you put in your body gets circulated everywhere. >how long does the prozak stay in the body? No one knows, but the effects of Prozac take weeks to kick in and weeks to wear off as well. Wayne From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 04:54:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2372 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 04:54:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 2364 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 04:54:41 -0000 Received: from f15.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.26) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 04:54:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 86054 invoked by uid 0); 9 May 1999 04:54:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19990509045414.86053.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.85.166.74 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 08 May 1999 21:54:14 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.85.166.74] From: "Wayne Radinsky" To: digitalmindtraveler@angelfire.com, unclenoa@netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, whtrabt@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: RE Sunshine: was, If you care about raves Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 21:54:14 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I thought the definition of "rave" was "an all-nite party with techno music". So, you know, technically if you throw a party in the daytime, it's not a rave, right? I'm not dissing daytime parties. I thought Daybreaks kicked ass. Hell, the more the merrier, as far as I'm concerned, that just means more choices and that's a good thing. I'm just saying, if you're going to be technical, if you throw a rave in the daytime, you can't call it a rave anymore. So you should call it an evar, which is "rave" spelled backwards. I was also wondering, why does the rave scene have a high turnover? Vlad said something like 90% of them are gone in 2 years, or something like that. Is it because the people that leave are the people who aren't really into it that much to start with? Do people just get burned out from drugs? Or do people keep on buying up the music, but just play it at home with their friends instead of going to the big parties? Or is it because they get married and have kids and get houses with white picket fences and a dog? Or is it because they come into the rave scene to learn from new experiences, and once they've learned what they need to learn, the scene doesn't offer them anything more so they move on? Or is it because the subwoofers aren't loud enough? They get tired of rave funk? They discover internet porn and would rather masturbate all night? That reminds me, yesterday was National Masturbation Day, and that's like almost the only day all year that I didn't masturbate at all. Regarding commercialization, I have mixed feelings. One says, hey, if raves are really so great, shouldn't everyone experience them? And if that's true, shouldn't we see large-scale commercialization of the scene? The big benefit that you get from mass-commercialization is more. More raves, more music, etc. On the other hand, it really is important for raves to be financially self-sufficient. It's best, of course, if people's hearts are in the music. But for them to be able to break-even and get a little compensation for all the work hauling heavy sound gear all over the place, cleaning up the mess, etc. that seems fair to me. If people went broke throwing raves, there wouldn't be any. On the other hand, it's kind of mean to throw crappy raves on purpose just to make money. What can you do? I really don't like the fact that promoters make money by packing more people in, and ruining the party, that just seems like the wrong financial incentive. (Maybe I'm still bitter about Pangea?) I dunno what can be done about it tho. Hey noah and m&m, whassup, remember me from Daybreaks? wayneRAD From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 04:55:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3239 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 04:55:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 3228 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 04:55:46 -0000 Received: from f167.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.53) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 04:55:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 36664 invoked by uid 0); 9 May 1999 04:55:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19990509045519.36663.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.85.166.74 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 08 May 1999 21:55:19 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.85.166.74] From: "Wayne Radinsky" To: thatpisces@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: BSP: synthetic! south bay rave madness Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 21:55:19 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Jess, See you June 7th? :) --------- >From: Jess ica >To: dj _haK , sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: BSP: synthetic! south bay rave madness >Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 09:02:43 -0700 (PDT) > >oh my goooooodness!!!! > >thats all. > >:) > >--- dj _haK wrote: > > > > SYNTHETIC! mondays starting june 7th > > > > residents: > > jungle: hak, symplex, siphon, hannibal selecta > > techno: chris jackson, andy w, mattski > > trance: keith edwards, skyscraper, odeci > > > > guests: > > june 7th > > jungle: gamekat (xlr8r) > > techno: jon williams (organized noise) > > trance: mystre (f-8), dyloot (skillz, f-8) > > > > june 14th > > jungle: rinse (bass cru, compound) > > techno: kit clayton > > trance: thomas trouble (t&j factory) > > > > > > 21+, located @ ecco, 3$ b4 10.pm, 5$ after. > > > > every week expect guest from all over the bay and > > kali, droppin essential > > rave choons and uplifting beats and deadly sub-bass. > > > > more info on the full colour flyer comming > > soon....... > > > > > > > > hak > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 04:59:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4433 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 04:59:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 4419 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 04:59:29 -0000 Received: from f304.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.217) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 04:59:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 99464 invoked by uid 0); 9 May 1999 04:59:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19990509045902.99463.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.112.27.60 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 08 May 1999 21:59:02 PDT X-Originating-IP: [216.112.27.60] From: "dj boywonder" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: bsp: live ra feed right now Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 21:59:02 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey we are broadcasting live at http//www.djradio.net aaron From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 05:09:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8297 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 05:09:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 8272 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 05:09:37 -0000 Received: from f228.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.119) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 05:09:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 42733 invoked by uid 0); 9 May 1999 05:09:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990509050909.42732.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.85.166.74 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 08 May 1999 22:09:09 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.85.166.74] From: "Wayne Radinsky" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Mixtape review: DJ KAOS "Artificial Paradise" Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 22:09:09 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok, so a certain very kind and attentive sfraves reader read my posts from Quest, where I raved about how much I loved the DJ Kaos set at the last Quest. And he managed to get a DJ Kaos tape into my hands! I won't say his name, but his initials are MODA!!!! Bro, You Rule!!! Thank you thank you thank you!! ANYWAY... Here's my review of Artificial Paradise: **oh*my*fucking*god** Ok, I spose I ought to do a little more of a review than that. Maybe even describe the music for those of you who've never heard DJ Kaos. The best description I can come up with is, "Meditiative Jungle", if you can imagine such a thing. It's like, ok, imagine yourself on a magic flying carpet, floating gently through the sky, on a beautiful, clear starry night, boppin to the jungle beat. This music is beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, all the way through the tape. I can't really describe it in words except for that. I absolutely love it. wayneRAD -- Get paid to watch ads: http://alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=ALZ893 -- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 05:13:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9210 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 05:13:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 9196 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 05:13:09 -0000 Received: from wet.dreamscape.org (HELO dreamscape.org) (kait@204.189.52.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 05:13:09 -0000 Received: from localhost (kait@localhost) by dreamscape.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA19695; Sat, 8 May 1999 22:09:34 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 22:09:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kaitlin R. Silver" To: dj boywonder cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: bsp: live ra feed right now In-Reply-To: <19990509045902.99463.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk it's pretty good too. . . Kaitlin R. Silver, Dreamscape Creations (dSC). dsc/uti99! ' `.' `- mail: kait@dreamscape.org ---------"beyond the illusion."-. ` ' work: krs@microsoft.com w3: http://dreamscape.org | |` ' work2: kait@hotmail.com p.w3: http://illusion.org | `-`.'-- epage: kaitpgr@dreamscape.org --pgp: 0xe8da4b17/0x2523bb4e-' On Sat, 8 May 1999, dj boywonder wrote: db>hey db> db>we are broadcasting live at http//www.djradio.net db> db>aaron db> db> db> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 08:07:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8858 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 08:07:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 8850 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 08:07:12 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?H6o5IG9e2V/xvWC1Kx7nrtdKRh2AhBTF?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 08:07:12 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id BAA29384; Sun, 9 May 1999 01:07:10 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 01:07:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: Wayne Radinsky cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Mixtape review: DJ KAOS "Artificial Paradise" In-Reply-To: <19990509050909.42732.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk BOH BOH BOH. We are very lucky to have DJ Kaos and the Method One among us in the Bay Area now. These two men are STALWARTS of the Eastern rave scene, and the atmoshperic drum&bass scene. And we have stolen them from vile Philly! So check it: they have had one of their tunes signed to be on the Nexus compilation LP. I believe that Nexus is Intense from the Good Looking/Bukem camp, and their tunes are seriously runnin, and yo, they haven't even put out a tape with their tunes on it! so watch out! www.atlantiq.com is their in-development website, MEthod One and Kaos's, that is, and it has mad soundclips on it. www.compoundrecords.com is I do believe designed by Method One who has a wicked tape called Midnight Sounds that you mightbe able to get a copy of somewhere. and that is where DJ Kaos works, and he can doubtlessly sort any of you that like the rollin sounds for mixed CD's or tapes, or 12"s etc etc. They are both super nice, top shelf dudes, for real. So check it out. ALSO, be on the lookout for a Method One/Kaos/Duh 92 hardcore set, and a 94-95 ragga mashup, and this that and the other thing. Because they both got more records than they probably could ever use, and though they are getting booked out here pretty much solely for the jazzy stuff so far, they have been in the jungle game as long as can be possible (since UK hardcore days) and no doubt about it, they can rinse out the old school. BOH BOH BOH. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 08:34:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12441 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 08:34:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 12433 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 08:34:05 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 08:34:05 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id DAA12292; Sun, 9 May 1999 03:33:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mon-ca8-04.ix.netcom.com(206.216.188.68) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma012284; Sun May 9 03:32:53 1999 Message-ID: <3734DDB9.36CF@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 00:58:33 +0000 From: Jennifer and Daniel Herron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wayne Radinsky , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: RE Sunshine: was, If you care about raves References: <19990509045414.86053.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Wayne Radinsky wrote: > > I thought the definition of "rave" was "an all-nite party > with techno music". So, you know, technically if you throw > a party in the daytime, it's not a rave, right? I'm not > dissing daytime parties. I thought Daybreaks kicked ass. > Hell, the more the merrier, as far as I'm concerned, that just > means more choices and that's a good thing. I'm just saying, > if you're going to be technical, if you throw a rave in the > daytime, you can't call it a rave anymore. So you should call > it an evar, which is "rave" spelled backwards. LOL I didn't know there was a formal definition of "Rave" Hehe..ok > > I was also wondering, why does the rave scene have a high > turnover? Vlad said something like 90% of them are gone in 2 > years, or something like that. Is it because the people that > leave are the people who aren't really into it that much to > start with? Do people just get burned out from drugs? Or > do people keep on buying up the music, but just play it at home > with their friends instead of going to the big parties? Or > is it because they get married and have kids and get houses > with white picket fences and a dog? Or is it because they > come into the rave scene to learn from new experiences, and once > they've learned what they need to learn, the scene doesn't offer > them anything more so they move on? Or is it because the > subwoofers aren't loud enough? They get tired of rave funk? > They discover internet porn and would rather masturbate all night? > That reminds me, yesterday was National Masturbation Day, and > that's like almost the only day all year that I didn't masturbate > at all. Well I'm married and my hubby and I are still in the scene. No picket fence though, can't afford one :) We discovered the scene together as a married couple and after three years are still in it to stay. I've noticed a few friends get burnt out by the scene but it could be due to the fact they've been in it to long or have different life goals at the momment such as finishing school. Hell I'm finally going back to school after a five year absence from college and I'm still going to party anyway. A girl has to get her fun somehow. Jennifer aka Chrysallys > > Regarding commercialization, I have mixed feelings. One says, > hey, if raves are really so great, shouldn't everyone experience > them? And if that's true, shouldn't we see large-scale > commercialization of the scene? The big benefit that you get > from mass-commercialization is more. More raves, more music, > etc. On the other hand, it really is important for raves to > be financially self-sufficient. It's best, of course, if > people's hearts are in the music. But for them to be able to > break-even and get a little compensation for all the work > hauling heavy sound gear all over the place, cleaning up the > mess, etc. that seems fair to me. If people went broke > throwing raves, there wouldn't be any. > > On the other hand, it's kind of mean to throw crappy raves on > purpose just to make money. What can you do? I really don't > like the fact that promoters make money by packing more people > in, and ruining the party, that just seems like the wrong > financial incentive. (Maybe I'm still bitter about Pangea?) I > dunno what can be done about it tho. > > Hey noah and m&m, whassup, remember me from Daybreaks? > > wayneRAD > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 08:59:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16203 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 08:59:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 16194 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 08:59:52 -0000 Received: from f81.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.187) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 08:59:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 38068 invoked by uid 0); 9 May 1999 08:59:25 -0000 Message-ID: <19990509085925.38067.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.112.27.60 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 09 May 1999 01:59:25 PDT X-Originating-IP: [216.112.27.60] From: "dj boywonder" To: kait@dreamscape.org, dj_boywonder@hotmail.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: bsp: live ra feed right now Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 01:59:25 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk thanks...i ended up putting on frank sinatra and some other stuff at 1 am...we had 13 connects at one point YAY!@%$ but as for right now....i think its puff the magic dragon...i got some random ass records :P aaron >From: "Kaitlin R. Silver" >To: dj boywonder >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: bsp: live ra feed right now >Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 22:09:34 -0700 (PDT) > > >it's pretty good too. > > > . . Kaitlin R. Silver, Dreamscape Creations (dSC). dsc/uti99! >' `.' `- mail: kait@dreamscape.org ---------"beyond the illusion."-. >` ' work: krs@microsoft.com w3: http://dreamscape.org | >|` ' work2: kait@hotmail.com p.w3: http://illusion.org | >`-`.'-- epage: kaitpgr@dreamscape.org --pgp: 0xe8da4b17/0x2523bb4e-' > >On Sat, 8 May 1999, dj boywonder wrote: > > db>hey > db> > db>we are broadcasting live at http//www.djradio.net > db> > db>aaron > db> > db> > db> > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 09:15:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17967 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 09:15:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 17959 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 09:15:20 -0000 Received: from mail1.sirius.com (205.134.253.131) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 09:15:20 -0000 Received: from hernancz (ppp-asok02--103.sirius.net [205.134.244.103]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id CAA15449; Sun, 9 May 1999 02:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <072801be99e9$88d14b80$2cf586cd@hernancz> Reply-To: "Good Sounds" From: "Good Sounds" To: "SFraves peeps" Subject: NRR-Top Ten... Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 23:59:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ...secrets of love. The first secret -- the power of thought. Love begins with our thoughts. We become what we think. Loving thoughts create loving experiences and loving relationships. Affirmations can change our beliefs and thoughts about ourselves and others. If we want to love someone, we need to consider their needs and desires. Thinking about your ideal partner will help you recognize him or her when you meet. The second secret -- the power of respect. You cannot love anyone or anything unless you first respect them. The first person you need to respect is yourself. To begin to gain self-respect ask yourself, "What do I respect about myself?" 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From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 14:54:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29091 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 14:54:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 29083 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 14:54:31 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 14:54:31 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (3703) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id dJCMa06455; Sun, 9 May 1999 10:53:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 10:53:40 EDT Subject: Re: Mixtape review: DJ KAOS "Artificial Paradise" To: maxmcc@csua.berkeley.edu, waynerad@hotmail.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/9/99 4:07:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU writes: << ALSO, be on the lookout for a Method One/Kaos/Duh 92 hardcore set, and a 94-95 ragga mashup, and this that and the other thing. Because they both got more records than they probably could ever use, and though they are getting booked out here pretty much solely for the jazzy stuff so far, they have been in the jungle game as long as can be possible (since UK hardcore days) and no doubt about it, they can rinse out the old school. >> yo when is this takin place? its about time these lil kiddies learn a lesson in the 'ardcore and all dat shit. time for the Terminator Rinse Out. 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To: maxik@slip.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i sent this one out to every one alread under the title of Urban Legen From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 19:47:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5230 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 19:47:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 5219 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 19:47:27 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 19:47:27 -0000 Message-ID: <19990509193035.23220.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [129.210.91.168] by web1; Sun, 09 May 1999 12:30:35 PDT Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 12:30:35 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: What have I missed? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok, since I've been holed up for the past week, I'd like to know what I missed: Doc Scott, 4hero, The V boys, Eklectik, and the jungle massive. I know the Doc and V gigs were pitifully empty, but I'm more looking for the music they played and such. ok, talk to me. -Science From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 20:09:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10199 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 20:09:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 10172 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 20:09:01 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 20:09:01 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (14436) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vOOSa16141 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 16:07:45 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <18631b30.24674506@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 16:07:34 EDT Subject: Ok ya'll ya win here ya go To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ya'll Have asked me to post a Picture of my self or come to a party to c what i actual look like so here is a recent pic of me http://www.angelfire.com/hi/ovydd/brian.html AOL users: My New Pic ~~~~~~~~~ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 20:12:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11158 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 20:12:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 11145 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 20:12:34 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 20:12:34 -0000 Received: from Speedex33@aol.com (8028) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vVPAa10989 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 16:11:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Speedex33@aol.com Message-ID: <45c3161e.24674605@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 16:11:49 EDT Subject: VORG To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone. Well, i'm finally back on this list. I got kicked off cause i couldn't check Email for a while and my mailbox filled up (did you know that AOL can hold 1000 Emails!?). I just wanted to say that VORG last night was sooo fun. The lights and lasers were ausome in all three rooms, all the music was tight and it didn't even seem to be overcrowded like usual. I got to meet a lot of really cool people and i saw like almost 20 people from my old high school. Hope everyone else had as much fun as i did. Wuzzup to Gary, Arune, Ben & Chrissy, Curtis and the rest of FamilE, Chad, Tamine, Trice, Galen, Eric, Fisher, Deputy Dewey (j/k:), and Shelly! Laterz, SCott From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 20:28:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16054 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 20:28:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 16034 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 20:28:45 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 20:28:45 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (14431) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3HXGa06455; Sun, 9 May 1999 16:28:10 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 16:28:09 EDT Subject: Re: VORG To: Speedex33@aol.com CC: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/9/99 1:12:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Speedex33@aol.com writes: << I just wanted to say that VORG last night was sooo fun. The lights and lasers were ausome in all three rooms, all the music was tight and it didn't even seem to be overcrowded like usual. I got to meet a lot of really cool people and i saw like almost 20 people from my old high school. Hope everyone else had as much fun as i did. Wuzzup to Gary, Arune, Ben & Chrissy, Curtis and the rest of FamilE, Chad, Tamine, <<<<>>>>> What?!?!? I was at VORG last night?? COuld have sworn I was at WOrk till 11 pm and then went to bed. There's no way I coulda been at that party I'm not that big of a sleepwalker and even then I'd wake myself up once I remembered that I didn't want to be at that party> heeheh is someone impersonating me??? hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 20:46:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22245 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 20:46:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 22200 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 20:46:27 -0000 Received: from dummy.sirius.com (HELO phat.r8x.net) (root@207.44.194.129) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 20:46:27 -0000 Received: from x-radio.com (toker [192.168.1.19]) by phat.r8x.net (8.8.5/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA09975 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 13:46:23 -0700 Message-ID: <3735F433.77C31773@x-radio.com> Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 13:46:43 -0700 From: "W. P. Risenhoover" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR: FINAL: US Crypto Regs. Ruled Unconstitutional Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------B29E34675A773DD831ECD6B2" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B29E34675A773DD831ECD6B2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------B29E34675A773DD831ECD6B2 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from mail.virtualrecordings.com (imap.ionix.net [209.0.104.20]) by phat.r8x.net (8.8.5/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA07699 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 14:04:46 -0700 Received: from virtualrecordings.com [209.0.105.216] by mail.virtualrecordings.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.07) id A88116030036; Sat, 08 May 1999 14:11:29 PST Message-ID: <3734A72A.54644CF9@virtualrecordings.com> Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 14:05:47 -0700 From: Robin Gross Organization: www.virtualrecordings.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Risenhoover Subject: [Fwd: FINAL: US Crypto Regs. Ruled Unconstitutional] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Alex Fowler wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > Friday, May 7, 1999 > > US Export Control Laws on Encryption Ruled Unconstitutional > > EFF Sponsored Case Scores Big Victory for Free Speech, Privacy, and > Security on the Internet > > CONTACTS: > Cindy Cohn, McGlashan and Sarrail > (650) 341-2585; cindy@mcglashan.com > Tara Lemmey, Electronic Frontier Foundation > (415) 436-9993; tara@eff.org > John Gilmore, Electronic Frontier Foundation > (415) 221-6524; gnu@toad.com > > SAN FRANCISCO, CA--The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that the > federal government's restrictions on encryption are unconstitutional, > affirming a lower court's ruling that export control over cryptographic > "software and related devices and technology are in violation of the First > Amendment on the grounds of prior restraint." > > "The Court understood the strong First Amendment issues at stake here," > noted Cindy Cohn, lead counsel for the Bernstein litigation team. "The > decision is thorough and should stand up to further review." > > The case has been sponsored by EFF since 1995. "We sponsored Professor Dan > Bernstein's case because of its importance to society, free expression, > electronic commerce, and privacy in the digital world," said Tara Lemmey, > EFF's President and Executive Director. > > Encryption, the process of coding and decoding computerized information, is > the most critical technological solution to protecting privacy and keeping > computer networks secure. Acknowledging this point, the court said "[t]he > availability and use of secure encryption may offer an opportunity to > reclaim some portion of the privacy we have lost. Government efforts to > control encryption thus may well implicate not only the First Amendment > rights of cryptographers intent on pushing the boundaries of their science, > but also the constitutional rights of each of us as potential recipients of > encryption's bounty." > > The court recognized the case's impact on society by saying "...it is > important to point out that the [Bernstein case] is a suit not merely > concerning a small group of scientists laboring in an esoteric field, but > also touches on the public interest broadly defined." > > "The US government has wielded these export controls to deliberately > eliminate privacy for ordinary people," said John Gilmore, co-founder > of EFF. "The controls created wireless phones that scanners can hear, > e-mail that's easy to intercept, and unsecured national infrastructures > that leave us all vulnerable. Misguided national security > bureaucracies use these controls everyday, to damage the nation they > are sworn to protect, and to undermine the constitution they are sworn > to uphold. Today's ruling is a giant step toward a sane policy." > > The government, led by Justice Department attorney Scott McIntosh, argued > that the export control laws on encryption are necessary to protect U.S. > national security. Even if the export control laws are in fact regulated > speech, McIntosh argued, if the government's intent was to regulate > something other than publication, it only needed to show that the rules > were "narrowly tailored" to serve a "substantial government interest." The > court disagreed. "[B]ecause the prepublication licensing regime challenged > here applies directly to scientific expression, vests boundless discretion > in government officials, and lacks adequate procedural safeguards, it > constitutes an impermissible prior restraint on speech," wrote the two > assenting judges. > > Judge Bright indicated that due to the importance of the case "it may > be appropriate for review by the US Supreme Court." EFF anticipates > that the government will ask for a stay of this ruling pending appeal. > If granted, the stay would prohibit encryption exports even within the > Ninth Circuit's jurisdiction, including all federal courts in > California, Oregon, Washington, Arizona, Montana, Idaho, Nevada, > Alaska, Hawaii, Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands, until the > matter is finally resolved. > > Details on the Bernstein case, including information on the lower court's > rulings, are available on the Internet at http://www.eff.org/bernstein. > > * * * * * * * * > > The Electronic Frontier Foundation (http://www.eff.org) is the leading > global organization building the bridge between technical architectures and > legal frameworks to support the rights of individuals in an open society. > Founded in 1990, EFF actively encourages and challenges industry and > government to support free expression, privacy, and access in the > information society. The Electronic Frontier Foundation maintains the 4th > most-linked-to Web site in the world. > > ===----------------------------------------------=== > Alexander Fowler > Director of Public Affairs > Electronic Frontier Foundation > > E-mail: afowler@eff.org > Tel: 415 436 9333; Fax 415 436 9993 > > You can find EFF on the Web at > > EFF supports the Global Internet Liberty Campaign > > > ===----------------------------------------------=== > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGP for Business Security 5.5 > > iQA/AwUBNzLyPuEGwp/6sL1+EQK61ACeI3rmzXqfInig+4t4I2uVQj0kSAIAmwTb > EXcxuw5lwHlUJHgNDs4M1eTJ > =z+v0 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------B29E34675A773DD831ECD6B2-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 20:57:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25976 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 20:57:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 25964 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 20:57:13 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 20:57:13 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (14436) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vXXVa07562 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 16:56:03 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 16:56:03 EDT Subject: here is a Riddle c if ya can figure it out To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I was built a year ago, I was made today, I am used every day. What am I? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 21:00:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28012 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 21:00:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 27985 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 20:59:59 -0000 Received: from f298.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.190) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 20:59:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 89221 invoked by uid 0); 9 May 1999 20:59:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19990509205932.89220.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.227.43.15 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 09 May 1999 13:59:32 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.227.43.15] From: "Michelle B." To: Markis1012@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: e and Prozac Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 13:59:32 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk As per usual, curiosity got me. Did that about 5 years ago, when the quality of E was a lot better. However, I did as much research as possible to make sure I wasn't going to kill myself. Everything I read, indicated that there were 'no known' short term problems, as far as health concerns go. Keyword: Short Term? They don't even know what Prozac does to you long term. Not to mention the long term side effects of combining it with other drugs. Anyways, here's the scoop: About 2 hours after taking the E, I'm sitting there bored off my ass, no effects of the E whatsoever. No good feelings physically, or mentally. It bummed me out pretty bad. I must have been pretty desperate after a year, of not doing any E, to do something like this. I know somebody who was also on a SSRI - Paxil, for depression. She as well felt nothing, but decided to give it a second try. She got very agitated, and stated she started hearing voices. I'd hardly call that 'the good old 5 year ago 'E' experience'. (Sounds more to me like Paranoid Schizophrenia.) My guess as to why I didn't feel anything is as follows: 1. E itself releases Serotonin 2. Prozac is a selective Serotonin re-uptake inhibitor, which cross cancels the effects the E would have, and that it did. I think this pretty much applies to all SSRI Antidepressants. Prozac's half life? (how long the drug stays in your system after stopping it entirely)is 5 days. So, for instance your doctor is switching you to a different anti-depressant. It can take up to 5 days until the Prozac is out of your system entirely. Thus, after 5 days off the medication, they can start you on a new one. Basically, if you haven't already done so, don't even bother. 1. You will feel so reamed, when you realize your not feeling the way you want to be feeling. 2. You've just waisted $20-$30. ** It can - and will - harsh your high.** Pro for Prozac - If your mental health is perfect your not currently taking anti-depressants you happen to have a friend with, who is taking Prozac, - try and haun one off them - then take it as your coming down. PLEASE READ THIS, AS THINGS HAVE CHANGED, I'M SURE: At least a few years ago, it would make those harsh side effects subside quite a bit. Must have something to do with blocking the re-uptake of the toxins into your brain, thus leaving you feeling like you can hold an actual conversation the next day. (Because, with E, all but %10 stays in your system - I could be wrong with that stat. Where does it go? I came to the conclusion that it must have gone to the part of your brain where your speach comes from. However, I would seriously try and avoid like Markis was saying. If you must, research as extensively as possible. I did my research about 5 years ago, when the chemical composition was a lot different than it is now. I really wouldn't know what would happen. Michelle >From: Markis1012@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: NRR: e and prozak >Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 01:44:18 EDT > >Are you on prozac or something? I REALLY don't think it would be a good >idea >to do E on top of some prozac. I definitely would not recommend it!!! I >sincerely hope you decide against it. > >makis(junglejunkie) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 21:12:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1971 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 21:11:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 1963 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 21:11:57 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 21:11:57 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA06691 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:11:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905092111.OAA06691@mail.netwiz.net> To: "San FranDisco Ravers List" Subject: tune in KUSF 90.3 right now Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 14:11:55 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk to hear music from "Dado" for more info, check http://www.thump-radio.com/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 21:30:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8108 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 21:30:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 8091 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 21:30:08 -0000 Received: from photon.net (photon@192.41.11.223) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 21:30:08 -0000 Received: from earcandymusic.nu by photon.net; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3735FE84.C1588621@earcandymusic.nu> Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 15:30:44 -0600 From: s j b Organization: ear.candy.music X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: -** NEW! online record store **- Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk greetings to everyone on the sanfransisco raves list! the new standard in online record shopping has been established: E A R C A N D Y | M U S I C 100%underground.sound http://www.earcandymusic.nu ear candy music offers $9.00 12" imports daily, tax free, and very reasonable shipping charges. the styles we represent cover new and used vinyl, cds & tapes of electronic & organic origins: house, techno, trance, jungle/drum'n'bass, experimental, trip hop, hip hop, battle breaks, garage, punk, rock, surf, rockabilly, emo, ska, mod, and jazz. we provide special order services, and want-lists are most welcome. we opperate on 100% secure commerce servers. visa, mastercard, and american express are gladly accepted, and processed in real-time so your orders will be delivered quickly. we offer express and international shipping as well. please check us out! it will be worth your time. *************** brought to you by aml|productions: http://www.aml.nu From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 22:00:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15530 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 22:00:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 15519 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 22:00:02 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 22:00:02 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA10975 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 15:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905092200.PAA10975@mail.netwiz.net> To: "San FranDisco Ravers List" Subject: "DJ Dado" (was Re: tune in KUSF 90.3 right now) In-reply-to: Your message of Sun, 09 May 1999 14:11:55 -0700 Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 15:00:00 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk So what would people call whatever's playing right now? It's trancy, except that it doesn't suck, and isn't completely monotonous and doesn't lack funk like too much of the trance-like music of this tempo and instrumentation. If anybody's curious and is missing the broadcast, I guess they'll have the archives on http://www.thump-radio.com/ later... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 22:57:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29194 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 22:57:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 29066 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 22:57:37 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 22:57:37 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D98AL6F2; Sun, 09 May 1999 18:56:41 EDT To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 16:00:45 -0700 Subject: skills/ vorg review Message-ID: <19990509.160051.-19233.4.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 5-6,14-18 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah, I had a good weekend. Wasn't even planning on going to skills, but my girl Liz invited me, and I'm so glad I went. Hella people, and a disturbing many of them (Yeah! I'm popular!) friends. Good music. Perfect spot (that was great watching ravers in tha trees. Silly monkeys), and of course, good music. Then off to vorg thanks to those bomb children of tha sun. Music was decent, not the best i've ever heard, but digable. Gianni J-Bot, Greg Sandler, Erik Brown, but especially Erik Brown were the sets I recall enjoying, despite minor technical difficulties. I'm not complaining at all cause those funky beats sure put a smile on my face. The party did not end with the party thanks to the fact I know silly people who like to spin records and are pretty damn good at it too so we all chilled and spent some quality time. All in all i had a lot of fun at all these parties. Til next weekend....... Peace, Theresa ps whatsup to everyone I know I love you all, and to this cutie I keep seeing all the time you said you'd email me so u better cause I want tha hookup! or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 23:22:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6545 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 23:22:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 6536 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 23:22:12 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 23:22:12 -0000 Received: from Angel2290@aol.com (14408) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPNZa04196 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 19:21:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Angel2290@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 19:21:32 EDT Subject: skills in the park To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 52 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk so, spent my saturday in the beautiful sunshine of golden gate park. managed to escape with only a minor sunburn. music was good, tons of people, many just enjoying the spectacle we created. the weirdest thing i saw was an older guy wearing a trenchcoat and taking pictures... (wonder what he will do with those...?) it was so nice to see eveybody dancing and enjoying the music and not just rollin. (the way it should be) hope everybody had fun this weekend. love and hugs and stuff, jenny p.s.- anyone else run home and jump right in the shower after being caught in the dancefloor dust cloud?? :) consensus: better or worse than raver funk? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 23:33:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10402 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 23:33:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 10393 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 23:33:21 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 23:33:21 -0000 Received: from Kandehata@aol.com (14393) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJEZa13996; Sun, 9 May 1999 19:32:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Kandehata@aol.com Message-ID: <3cbd7a7e.24677512@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 19:32:34 EDT Subject: Re: skills in the park To: Angel2290@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/9/99 4:30:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Angel2290@aol.com writes: << it was so nice to see eveybody dancing and enjoying the music and not just rollin. (the way it should be) >> UUUUUMMMMM i dont know where u were looking...but there was a guy and a girl on the right speakers hella fuked up off her ass!!!it was ashame to see people rollin at 430 in the afternoon!!!! jus makes me wanna THROW UP!!!! A P.S jus mah two cents worth =o)~ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 23:43:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14641 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 23:43:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 14616 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 23:42:58 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 23:42:58 -0000 Received: from Angel2290@aol.com (14408) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vYZEa03059; Sun, 9 May 1999 19:42:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Angel2290@aol.com Message-ID: <4e5e0ac2.24677756@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 19:42:14 EDT Subject: Re: skills in the park To: Kandehata@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 52 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 99-05-09 19:32:34 EDT, you write: << 5 >> well, i didn't mean *everybody* literally exactly, just like a hundred times less than most of the night parties i've been to lately. i'm sure there were some people that were rolling (there always are), but there weren't mad amounts of people lying around f!@ked up, that's all i meant. love and hugs and stuff, jenny From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 23:49:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17179 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 23:49:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 17170 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 23:49:37 -0000 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (140.142.33.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 23:49:37 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id QAA22801; Sun, 9 May 1999 16:49:33 -0700 Message-ID: <00f001be9a76$b64a65a0$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: , Cc: Subject: Re: skills in the park Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 16:50:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk -----Original Message----- From: Kandehata@aol.com >UUUUUMMMMM i dont know where u were looking...but there was a guy and a girl >on the right speakers hella fuked up off her ass!!!it was ashame to see >people rollin at 430 in the afternoon!!!! jus makes me wanna THROW UP!!!! Ha! I agree! At 4:30pm, you should be under the influence of something else. Ten minutes later, Alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- She wants a good life, No man to cause her pain and strife. -=- Cocoa Tea From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 23:56:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19715 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 23:56:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 19696 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 23:55:59 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 23:55:59 -0000 Received: from BBoiBreks@aol.com (14415) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLGYa13119; Sun, 9 May 1999 19:54:21 -0400 (EDT) From: BBoiBreks@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 19:54:20 EDT Subject: Re: skills in the park To: Kandehata@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hell yeah I saw mad fucked up kids. There was this one kitten that was booty bustin' the right hand speaker. She was just rubbing herself up and down that massive box. And I KNOW for a fact that when you start clapping and moaning and fondling yourself and trying to influence the people around you to do the same thing, you're officially fucked up. Let's not even go to the issues of candykids roosting on the trees with whistles and glowstiks (It's 3.30 in the afternoon people!) What a fucking shame it was that kids be puffin that doja in public view of children in strollers. My god kids, have a little respect. Here was my qoute of the day "No, I'm not selling E and I don't know anyone that you can buy it from so get the fuck away from me. Damn strumpets!" or my favorite to end the discussion b4 it even starts. "What's E, is it some sort of animal?" the tired poser bboibreks From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 09 23:57:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20685 invoked by uid 6000); 9 May 1999 23:57:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 20674 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 23:57:41 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 May 1999 23:57:41 -0000 Received: from Kandehata@aol.com (14393) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vELTa16142; Sun, 9 May 1999 19:56:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Kandehata@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 19:56:36 EDT Subject: Re: skills in the park To: BBoiBreks@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HAHAHAHHA!!!!! SON if im not mistaken...i thought i saw u strumping the right speaker wit that girl......laurea? cant u verify this too???i know i wasnt that cracked out to know that it was the short ass asian kid humping the speaker rite along with that girl....HAHAHAHAHAHA SON WHAT HAS GOTTEN INTO YOU??? A From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 00:01:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21972 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 00:01:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 21937 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 00:01:06 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 00:01:06 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id TAA11042 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 19:00:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca4-10.ix.netcom.com(205.186.212.138) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma011025; Sun May 9 19:00:04 1999 Message-ID: <3736310C.B3D@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 17:06:24 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Progression Review & daytime-Skills Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk PROGRESSION Well Progression was a pretty cool party. The music was good all night long, nothing spectacular, alot of traks that are often heard but I guess only so many new rekids can be produced. Parties that are half jungle and half house are my favs., so I was excited to go. I guess if I had to mention one steller moment: MC'ing by Jamalski, not that I haven't heard him tons and tons of times already, but there was a pretty good sized circle of us surrounding him, all giving off positive energy and so was he in return. It was at the Jackson Street venue and it wasn't half bad. The party was a perferct size full, sourda how the second and Jackson parties were a few years back(but I think it was cheaper to rent out back then also). It was hot from time to time but it wasn't too bad and there were fans. I guess it wasn't full enough because from what I heard they lost some money on the party ;( The lighting was really really cool!! I don't know who was doing lighting but I've seen it a few times before. The entire wall(entering the room, by the h2o, -- the rt. wall) had mad projections of beautiful colors and designs. Alot of people were annoyed because it was so bright but I liked it alot. The people at the party were pretty cool, there were so many b-boi/hip-hop/breakers there. I so alot of talent in the dancing scene, peeps that were dope at popping/coppoerra(sp?)/acrobatics/ and plain out breaking. I think the only vibe like differance that comes down when your around breakers is this: probablly around 50% maybe less have bad attitudes, they think there dope or are just somewhat rude to people that they don't know, and alot of times it's the females, but maybe in a guys view point it's the guys that are rude-? With the entire view point of attitude, I guess all partiers are like that, but it just tends to stand out more in my mind in this type o'crowd. All in all, I had a good time, I left at 5 and rumor had it that the party was ending @5, but it seemed to be moving hard still when I took off.( anyone know ?) DAYTIME SKILLS: hmmmmm....this was one of the wierdest day time parties that I've ever been too- The music was kinda crappy...hehe ;), well--I guess it was ok. Most people(including myself) would say: Why go to a party if you don't like the dj's that are spinning?.! Well, my friends and myself were bored, so we went, and plus-before I used to think Mars and Mystre were ok, but *URG!!*, the more i hear there phukin rekids the more irritated I get. And I don't mean, just being spun by them, if those beats are spun by any person. I guess I just don't like happy-trance,-- And for those of you that put them in the catagory of Paul Van Dyke, you are more then mistaken, because he's an amazing dj!/ I don't know about most people, or maybe this is just how it is at D-Time House parties, but Day Times are to chill and dance...Usually alot of blankets are out and people drink a little and smoke a little. But yesterday, there were Crackers everywhere, lines being set up on the stage, some chick bought an 8th of shrooms for $40( that was just funny), there were all kinds of e'd out kids malesting eachother on the steps. ( it was at Golden Gate) Doing drugs in the day time is ofcourse the same as doing them at any other time, but to me it just seemed weird. So those are my reviews Peace Elizabeth From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 01:03:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8031 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 01:03:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 8022 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 01:03:35 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 01:03:35 -0000 Received: from Barbero420@aol.com (3940) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vQPUa02302 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 21:01:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Barbero420@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 21:01:13 EDT Subject: Paul*E*Wog To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk id just like 2 say that Paul*E*Wog... is a BIOTCH and need 2 get the boot from sfraves! PLUR, BaadBoy420 (aka Barbero420) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 01:10:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10629 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 01:10:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 10621 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 01:10:06 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 01:10:06 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (14449) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vEUGa03215; Sun, 9 May 1999 21:09:35 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <883de84d.24678bce@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 21:09:34 EDT Subject: Re: Paul*E*Wog To: Barbero420@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/9/1999 6:03:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Barbero420@aol.com writes: << id just like 2 say that Paul*E*Wog... is a BIOTCH and need 2 get the boot from sfraves! PLUR, BaadBoy420 (aka Barbero420) >> Posts like these are absolutely uncalled for and ridiculous. Why even bother waisting band with. Its hard enough to sort through the list for valuable information without having to sort through all this crap. If you have something informative, valuable, or fun to say, say it, if not, save it! Peace, M Groove On From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 01:55:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23035 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 01:55:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 23019 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 01:55:09 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 01:55:09 -0000 Received: from BBoiBreks@aol.com (259) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLFUa15866; Sun, 9 May 1999 21:52:45 -0400 (EDT) From: BBoiBreks@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 21:52:40 EDT Subject: Re: skills in the park To: Kandehata@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Excuse me little native american boy, I'm sorry if you had to see me molest the speaker, but posers who swear that they're bboys do that sort of thing all the time. You should be happy that you know me. Shiat, I don't just talk to anyone, especially gay little candyasses like your self. I was also not strumping the speaker, I was trying to be one with the music and the speakers were simply the windows to that PLUR inducing trance. Dude, Ghost and Frank Nitty tore it up at Golden Gate Park. They spun that dope titanic track and I was like "Yeah! I love you!" to all the plants and animals. I wanted to liberate the whole park and set all the koi in the ponds free. Oh god, Ghost and Frank Nitty really need to cut those dreads off though. = ) "I'm a fasian's dream come true." the sacastic poser bboibreks From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 02:38:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8451 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 02:38:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 8443 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 02:38:49 -0000 Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 02:38:49 -0000 Received: from [209.157.52.33] (dynamic33.pm01.east-bay.best.com [209.157.52.33]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id TAA00245; Sun, 9 May 1999 19:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 19:37:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: sftrance@shell18.ba.best.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990509050909.42732.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Wayne Radinsky" From: MODA Subject: Re: Mixtape review: DJ KAOS "Artificial Paradise" Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 10:09 PM -0700 5/8/99, Wayne Radinsky wrote: >Ok, so a certain very kind and attentive sfraves reader >read my posts from Quest, where I raved about how much I >loved the DJ Kaos set at the last Quest. > >And he managed to get a DJ Kaos tape into my hands! I >won't say his name, but his initials are MODA!!!! >Bro, You Rule!!! Thank you thank you thank you!! > >ANYWAY... Here's my review of Artificial Paradise: >**oh*my*fucking*god** > >Ok, I spose I ought to do a little more of a review than that. >Maybe even describe the music for those of you who've never >heard DJ Kaos. The best description I can come up with is, >"Meditiative Jungle", if you can imagine such a thing. It's >like, ok, imagine yourself on a magic flying carpet, floating >gently through the sky, on a beautiful, clear starry night, boppin >to the jungle beat. This music is beautiful, beautiful, >beautiful, all the way through the tape. I can't really describe >it in words except for that. I absolutely love it. > >wayneRAD > Glad ya like it Wayne. It's a fantastic recording of what KAOS is all about. I was so impressed with it that I decided to take him to North Carolina and Atlanta to spin with me. And he gladly accepted! WHAT! MODA promotes D N' B now??? 8) MODA ================================================= T R A N C E F U S I O N M U S I C 1809 Gouldin Road * Oakland * CA * 94611 (415) 215-1612 * (415) 469-6901 http://www.trancefusion.com ================================================= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 02:50:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13233 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 02:50:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 13224 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 02:50:07 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 02:50:07 -0000 Received: from Squisheart@aol.com (3889) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id uLPUa04194; Sun, 9 May 1999 22:48:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Squisheart@aol.com Message-ID: <1864c603.2467a2ec@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 22:48:12 EDT Subject: Re: Mixtape review: DJ KAOS "Artificial Paradise" To: moda@trancefusion.com, waynerad@hotmail.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ick someone remind me again wut does plur stand for From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 03:30:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26687 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 03:30:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 26679 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 03:30:32 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 03:30:32 -0000 Received: from SnShYn30@aol.com (14439) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vUCMa24056 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 23:28:52 -0400 (EDT) From: SnShYn30@aol.com Message-ID: <3afa1b14.2467ac74@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 23:28:52 EDT Subject: VoRg ReViEw.... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk okay this is the first time Ive ever done a review on a party but i thought vorg would be a good one to start with. Overall it was setup to be a really great party. All the decorations and lights were gorgeous especially compared to Progression the night before ( but i know that was a much smaller party). In the first room there was actually even some room to dance but in the other 2 rooms it was so hard to breathe that i could only watch a little bit of thomas troubles set:( that really bummed me out too cuz ive had 2 miss the last 2 parties hes spun at and i was really loking forward 2 hearing him. But what i did hear (the titanic song) and a few others were awesome as always. In the third room me and my friend went to chill for awhile but the chill spot was so small and dark that it was kinda uncomfortable. I think mars and mystere were spinning at the time but as always they were spinning the exact same sets. I know i sound like im bitching about the party but actually it was pretty good, not the best cuz i didnt really feel good and couldnt have as good a time as i wanted but the music was really good and the people there were really giving off a good vibe. It also made me happy 2 see my friend having such a great night after she had such a bad time at progression. Love ya Nic! Anyways i hope everyone had fun and hope 2 see everyone next weekend :0) <3 LiSa <3 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 04:03:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8451 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 04:03:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 8443 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 04:03:29 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 04:03:29 -0000 Received: from Fine19boy@aol.com (8060) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vTKZa24273; Mon, 10 May 1999 00:02:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Fine19boy@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 00:02:33 EDT Subject: Re: here is a Riddle c if ya can figure it out To: WhrDaMud@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk a calendar silly From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 05:00:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28536 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 05:00:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 28524 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 05:00:31 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 05:00:31 -0000 Received: from Markis1012@aol.com (8052) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHJWa04815; Mon, 10 May 1999 00:59:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Markis1012@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 00:59:44 EDT Subject: Paul*E*Wog To: Barbero420@aol.com CC: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You are SO wrong. You couldn't be more wrong!! Paul is so fucking cool. I haven't even met him yet, and I know he's cool. You have to read his posts in the most sarcastic voice you can think of. He's only joking. He's poking fun. That's the fun of life. You can't take everything so seriously like you are. And one more thing. How dare you say something like "Paul*E*Wog is a BIOTCH" and then sign your little email "PLUR"??? I don't think that statement is very PLURry myself. How about you? Be nice, BaadBoy420!! Markis & Naomi (Hardcore Junglists) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 05:22:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4604 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 05:22:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 4592 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 05:22:47 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 05:22:47 -0000 Received: from GParry1925@aol.com (301) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vEBSa10993 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 01:22:17 -0400 (EDT) From: GParry1925@aol.com Message-ID: <66ffbcd2.2467c708@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 01:22:16 EDT Subject: ***SPAM***RedRoom check question. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.6 for Mac Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk To 5 families: To whom do I make out my check for RedRoom? Also if you could send me the address it would save me some time. Thanks Owen From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 05:26:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5923 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 05:26:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 5915 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 05:26:17 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 05:26:17 -0000 Received: from BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com (3936) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vUHFa16238 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 01:25:30 -0400 (EDT) From: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com Message-ID: <23a8f441.2467c7ca@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 01:25:30 EDT Subject: Skills and Dubphonik To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I knew what the Skills day party was going to be like so I was not surprised with the outcome. WHAT A SCENE! It was so entertaining to watch all the strumped asses in the middle of G.G. park. With that soundtrack in the back it was just the ESSENCE of cheesiness...I got more than my laughter's worth that day! Ahhh....why can't we have day parties in G.G. park with Dj Dan again huh? Who remembers that! Later in the evening we decide to get our jungle fix and head out to Dubphonik. At the beginning of the party there was virtually no one there and just really BAD music. As the nite progressed, the music got better...I liked the hip hop they spun downstairs because people were groovin finally! The only really good jungle dj there was Noel (what's new he is always good) and no one was really even there to appreciate the set. So ya that's it! Ummmm can we say F O R M U L A ! I am offcially scared for all the people in the building because it's called INSANITY =*) -=~*LaUrE@*~=- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 05:31:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7956 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 05:31:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 7940 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 05:31:18 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 05:31:18 -0000 Received: from yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.29.227]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA11465 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 22:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990509222210.00908414@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: case@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 22:22:22 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: josh sorkin Subject: a review of the revue: VORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 2nd and Jackson burst at the corners on May 9. Literally _burst_, like a balloon gone too high for its fragile skin to maintain. V.O.R.G.'s eponymous party had everything in place for a typical dusk-to-dawn pleasure fest, but the mounting technical mishaps proved damning for this plucky young (6 months) crew. Don't get me wrong--we jaded, overheated ravers appreciate the numerous fans, reasonably overpriced water, and rooms full of explosive talent. BUT in order to pull that magical vibe out of thin air, you've got to know how to use all the tricks you've got up your sleeve. Keep the fans on at all times. And make sure the ones you've got actually work. If you're going to uber-promote a party and attract a crowd large enough to turn 2 & J into a sardine can, be kind to your sardines and give them a water bar in each room. You'll sell more, you'll cool everyone down, and you'll even out the crowd in each room. And please. please. please. Make sure your sound systems work PERFECTLY and in ABSOLUTE HARMONY with one another. People pay $20 presale so that they don't have to deal with unstable turntables that skip all the time (a few quarters taped to the cartridge, perhaps?) and giant sound systems that bleed profusely from room to room. Make sure your walls are thick enough to block the sound and if your tables are on a rickety platform, don't just shoo people away, put barricades up to KEEP them away. There were brilliant DJs (an excellent mix of new and old) playing who didn't deserve to have their sets marred by rampant needle jumps. But the lighting was top-notch. And I can't remember a single set that didn't rock the house. The crowd was well-mixed--candE kids and homey G's in appropriate proportions. And I didn't see a single fight or robbery. It was a decent first massive for V.O.R.G. But they've got a lot of kinks to work out for when they plan their next event if they want to make it better than the run-of-the-mill sweatbox that I attended on saturday night. ------------------------------- "i scream so much. you know what i mean. this electric stream. and my tears in league with the wires and energy and my machine." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 05:37:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11108 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 05:37:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 11090 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 05:37:48 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 05:37:48 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (14381) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNGMa26070 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 01:37:06 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <11ff84b0.2467ca82@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 01:37:06 EDT Subject: Passions for your genre: To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I understand that each person has a passion for thier own genre of music. Mine happens to be house. Both Deep and progressive. Throw in a mix of trance and Im in heaven. Id like to hear what each person has to say about thier passion? Such as all the jungle heads, trance babys and so forth. Peace, M Groove On From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 05:37:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11355 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 05:37:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 11257 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 05:37:54 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 05:37:54 -0000 Received: from yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.29.227]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA12985; Sun, 9 May 1999 22:37:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990509222852.00912e50@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: case@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 22:28:57 -0700 To: BBoiBreks@aol.com From: josh sorkin Subject: Re: skills in the park Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yes. anyone who raves at any time other than the pre-designated weekend nighttime period must be rehabilitated. report to my house at once for another daytime party this summer. therapy to include loud whistling noises, joyous pleasure regardless of whether or not you're fucked up, and general whimsical silliness. At 07:54 PM 5/9/99 EDT, you wrote: >Hell yeah I saw mad fucked up kids. There was this one kitten that was booty >bustin' the right hand speaker. She was just rubbing herself up and down that >massive box. And I KNOW for a fact that when you start clapping and moaning >and fondling yourself and trying to influence the people around you to do the >same thing, you're officially fucked up. Let's not even go to the issues of >candykids roosting on the trees with whistles and glowstiks (It's 3.30 in the >afternoon people!) What a fucking shame it was that kids be puffin that doja >in public view of children in strollers. My god kids, have a little respect. >Here was my qoute of the day "No, I'm not selling E and I don't know anyone >that you can buy it from so get the fuck away from me. Damn strumpets!" or my >favorite to end the discussion b4 it even starts. "What's E, is it some sort >of animal?" > >the tired poser >bboibreks > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 06:01:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18377 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 06:01:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 18366 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 06:01:38 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 06:01:38 -0000 Received: from MissNexa@aol.com (14445) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vACPa20907 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 02:00:44 -0400 (EDT) From: MissNexa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 02:00:43 EDT Subject: Passions for your genre: Triggidee Trance (n a lil tekno) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 120 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/9/99 9:38:08 PM PST, BigM009@aol.com writes: << I understand that each person has a passion for thier own genre of music. Mine happens to be house. Both Deep and progressive. Throw in a mix of trance and Im in heaven. Id like to hear what each person has to say about thier passion? Such as all the jungle heads, trance babys and so forth. >> Ooooh myy you just got me goin, Mo, cause I happen to love trance. In all forms (but goa/psy being the least, but i still dig it every so often)! Cheesy songs get me going and I am not ashamed to admit it! Maybe it's because I get a good dosage of my trance from my b/f and his best friend who spin cybertrance .. and people might think i'm strange after reading this, but i can put on my headphones at school and turn up the volume and i turn into this lil girl all over again with a BIG HUGE grin on my face. And I can't find this with any other genre, although I am quite open-minded with other musical tastes. Hrmmm, last party I went to was F8 (sooo long ago!), and between the hours of 10-6, I: -felt sad -fell in love with my best friend and my b/f and my friends all over again -started CRYING ( hrmmm i know for a fact that i wasnt the only one, either! :) ) -felt so high on life -HAPPY! There's something about it that just sets off my emotions, one by one as the songs take over my mind.. I get more people coming up to me at parties thinking that I'm rollin' HARD when i hear a dope trance set than anything else. i cant decribe it; i just get totally consumed by trance more than anything. okay enough rambling, hope everyone has a nice MONDAY! *( bleh and hopefully see most of you soooooooon! *Turn the volume UP and make m'hEaRt -sPin- <33 ---> wannabe E*tard Miss Nexa From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 06:06:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20802 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 06:06:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 20783 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 06:06:39 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 06:06:39 -0000 Received: from yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.29.227]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA01867; Sun, 9 May 1999 23:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990509225415.009077e4@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: case@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 22:54:22 -0700 To: Little8red@aol.com, TeKnODiVa@aol.com, leslie.ayres@excite.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: josh sorkin Subject: Re: old skool vs. new skool? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 03:27 PM 5/8/99 EDT, Little8red@aol.com wrote: > You know, I can completely relate to what you said in the two paragraphs >that I snipped out.... When I started raving in high school ('92) there was a >group of people who decided to become skinheads... a lifestyle/philosophy >that is, in my opinion, the exact opposite of the unity vibe that raving >inspires... opposite of plur. > About two years ago, these same people started throwing parties, doing >the drugs, wearing the clothes, and spouting plur-isms left and right. etc. which is actually pretty nice if you ask me. a true testimonial to the power of the rave scene to inspire friendliness and love (however plastic) in all types of people no matter how closed-minded they may APPEAR. if somebody appears resistant to your ideas, ask yourself: How open are you to theirs? how do you react when somebody does something you consider naive or contemptuous? do you reject them as being a narrow-minded enemy or do you convert them into a friend by exploring the issues at hand? it's kind of surprising, but if you say and do things a certain way for long enough, eventually you will begin to think that way as well. go ahead and mock the poseurs and trendoids all you want, but remember, this scene has a philosophy. it teaches you ethics, personal responsibility, and a healthy disrespect for dogma and fixed realities. and anyone who but tasteth a fraction of this elixir gaineth the whole fucking thing. ------------------- "when they poured across the border, i was cautioned to surrender. this i could not do. i took my gun and vanished. "there were three of us this morning. i'm the only one this evening. but i must go on. the frontiers are my prison." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 06:15:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23239 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 06:15:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 23220 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 06:15:35 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 06:15:35 -0000 Received: from yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.29.227]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA10712; Sun, 9 May 1999 23:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990509230630.00910654@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: case@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 23:06:37 -0700 To: MissNexa@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: josh sorkin Subject: Re: Passions for your genre: Triggidee Trance (n a lil tekno) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk why must i spin this Goa Trance? why must i rock the psychedelic beats and crazy acid lines that go way out of control faster than you can say "amphfkmr zykomnn?" this is WHY: you dont spin this music It spins you when it hits you square in the headphones you ride it out like you straddle a dragon...powerful but O SO DANGEROUS! 239528690423069234906903246809826080923684209682390672309682306230692347609 Because i went to the "First Contact" and I took a drug and heard a lot of strange music called psychedelic trance and here is what happened: "i experience so many strange things...people are moving around and i think that some terrible chemical has been spilled and the acid was too powerful and all of us here have taken it and we are the chosen ones who will die and horrible stories about it will run in the paper the next day and the rave scene will be destroyed because we wanted to have fun but we're only stupid kids. there's this girl that i see over and over again. maybe she's some kind of sorceress who's brought me into her insane enchanted realm where all we ever do is dance dance dance and just as i start to realize it i am caught back up into the dance with a wild string of thoughts and sooner or later i realize all the thoughts incorporate RAVE, ACID, LSD, FLUORESCENT and i realize that the rave is, was, and always will be the eternal dimension that we seek to attain but we can only attain it through the acid bridge. my parents once crossed this bridge in the late '60s, they entered this alien world. the cycle repeats millions of times and i realize that i am dead and this is what the afterlife is or that i have gone crazy and this is what total madness is, an endless repeating goa song that we all dance to forever and ever, feeling perfect happy never care, only realizing once in a while that we're trapped in acid but then the drug steers us back into ecstatic complacence." and i've been simply MAD about goa ever since. Hee hee hee! ------------------------------------ "white room. sun room. shadow room. night transmitting cars across the room. these things sent to dance across the room. eye watching from your bed. returning to you." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 06:31:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29339 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 06:31:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 29223 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 06:31:38 -0000 Received: from lovelace.usfca.edu (root@138.202.192.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 06:31:38 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer ([138.202.103.171]) by lovelace.usfca.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA19925; Sun, 9 May 1999 23:31:36 -0700 Message-ID: <000701be9aae$6f36c540$ab67ca8a@oemcomputer.usfca.edu> From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: , , Subject: Re: Passions for your genre: Trance Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 23:29:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE9A73.C26B96E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE9A73.C26B96E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >There's something about it (trance) that just sets off my emotions, one = by one as the >songs take over my mind i TOTALLY know what you mean. i have that way with it too. one time i = was at work and i was playing this cd that my friend made for me (he's a = trance dj from hawaii) and i just busted out crying. everyone was all = like, dude, what's wrong with you? no one understood. but i couldn't = help myself. personally, i love every type of music. anything with a beat just gets = me going. i tend to get really into one type of music, then move on to = another type. i was a house head for a long while, then i got to be a = breatbeat junkie, then i was a drum n bass queen, then i was a junglist, = then i got to be a little trance baby. i'm starting to get back into = house again though. it's fun. it's like i'm revisiting my childhood. so right now i have to say that i love trance. that's what gets to me = the most, but i still love everything else. just gimme a beat and a = dancefloor and you've got a happy girl. love lia ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE9A73.C26B96E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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>There's something=20 about it (trance) that just sets off my emotions, one by one as = the
>songs=20 take over my mind
 
i TOTALLY = know what you=20 mean.  i have that way with it too.  one time i was at work = and i was=20 playing this cd that my friend made for me (he's a trance dj from = hawaii) and i=20 just busted out crying.  everyone was all like, dude, what's wrong = with=20 you?  no one understood.  but i couldn't help = myself.
 
personally, = i love every=20 type of music.  anything with a beat just gets me going.  i = tend to=20 get really into one type of music, then move on to another type.  i = was a=20 house head for a long while, then i got to be a breatbeat junkie, then i = was a=20 drum n bass queen, then i was a junglist, then i got to be a little = trance=20 baby.  i'm starting to get back into house again though.  it's = fun.  it's like i'm revisiting my childhood.
 
so right = now i have to=20 say that i love trance.  that's what gets to me the most, but i = still love=20 everything else.  just gimme a beat and a dancefloor and you've got = a happy=20 girl.
 
love=20 lia
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE9A73.C26B96E0-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 06:51:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5902 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 06:50:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 5894 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 06:50:57 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 06:50:57 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com (325) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vIKIa03215; Mon, 10 May 1999 02:50:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: <1c6b0ac2.2467dbad@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 02:50:21 EDT Subject: Re: Rollin' in the park To: Kandehata@aol.com, Angel2290@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk So explain to me when it was decided that it was uncool to do E in the daytime? I must have missed that one. So you are only supposed to do E at night, right? Instead of being surronded by loud tekno beats and dancing ravers in the day-time, you are only supposed to do it when you are surrounded by loud tekno beats and dancing ravers in the night-time? Oh, I get it now. Fuckin, silly stupid me! What a dunce! And to think I have done E in the daytime so many times. I'm so uncool! In a message dated 5/9/99 4:40:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Kandehata@aol.com writes: << n a message dated 5/9/99 4:30:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Angel2290@aol.com writes: << it was so nice to see eveybody dancing and enjoying the music and not just rollin. (the way it should be) >> UUUUUMMMMM i dont know where u were looking...but there was a guy and a girl on the right speakers hella fuked up off her ass!!!it was ashame to see people rollin at 430 in the afternoon!!!! jus makes me wanna THROW UP!!!! >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 06:59:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8335 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 06:59:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 8327 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 06:59:37 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 06:59:37 -0000 Received: from IIBriSkII@aol.com (399) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vDTRa26068 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 02:58:55 -0400 (EDT) From: IIBriSkII@aol.com Message-ID: <1b9d0577.2467ddaf@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 02:58:55 EDT Subject: (no subject) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk lkjlk From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 07:01:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9874 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 07:01:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 9865 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 07:01:47 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 07:01:47 -0000 Received: from IIBriSkII@aol.com (399) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vRIOa02446 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 03:01:01 -0400 (EDT) From: IIBriSkII@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 03:01:01 EDT Subject: jungle mp3 websites To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk does anyone know any good websites that have jungle mp3's??? BriSkE From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 07:18:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15084 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 07:18:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 15076 invoked by uid 233); 10 May 1999 07:18:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 119 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 06:32:06 -0000 Received: from law-f159.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.222) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 06:32:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 20838 invoked by uid 0); 10 May 1999 06:31:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19990510063139.20837.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.170.187.222 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 09 May 1999 23:31:39 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.170.187.222] From: "michael waldren" To: BigM009@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Passions for your genre: Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 23:31:39 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Jungle is the only way to go. I simply could not imagine living life any other way. After all once you have experienced the best why would yyou ever go back to the rest. LOL. Junglist Mikey >From: BigM009@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Passions for your genre: >Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 01:37:06 EDT > > > >I understand that each person has a passion for thier own genre of music. >Mine happens to be house. Both Deep and progressive. Throw in a mix of >trance and Im in heaven. Id like to hear what each person has to say about >thier passion? Such as all the jungle heads, trance babys and so forth. > >Peace, M > >Groove On From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 07:49:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22609 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 07:49:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 22600 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 07:49:24 -0000 Received: from law-f15.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 07:49:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 40722 invoked by uid 0); 10 May 1999 07:34:45 -0000 Message-ID: <19990510073445.40721.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.155.177.230 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 May 1999 00:34:44 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.155.177.230] From: "ro ro" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Passions for your genre:Jungle Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 07:34:44 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk All I can say is, "More bass, PLEASE!!!". I love how the bass in jungle / d&b is its own instrument that can be played many different ways. You also have the breakbeat that keeps your head bobbing hella fast or your feet shuffling and skippin forever. My little interpretation: The breaks are the bus stops, were everybody gets off the ride, takes a breath, and actually opens up their eyes to see who they've been bumping into during the ride. While waiting for the ride, the bus stop has some elevator music that you can chill to. But when the next ride is on its way, everybody at the bus stop is ready, until... da,da,da,da,da,da,da,... KABOOM!!! The beat drops like a motherfucker!!! Breakbeat flying all over the damn place, the bass pushing you harder and harder up and down all around the room... If you're lucky enough to have a tour guide (M.C.) then the ride is even better!!! We junglists are just constantly on a journey, taking one bus after another, being taken one crazy ride after another... (A roller coaster that we can't get off!!!) "What do you call that kind of music?" "Jungle." "That shit is fuckin tight!!!" Rommel danglingfury@hotmail.com AOLIM: DaSaucey1 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 08:14:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27150 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 08:14:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 27133 invoked by alias); 10 May 1999 08:14:07 -0000 Delivered-To: sfraves-digest@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27131 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 08:14:07 -0000 Received: from web221.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.121) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 08:14:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19990510081627.9835.rocketmail@web221.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.3.225.163] by web221.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 10 May 1999 01:16:27 PDT Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 01:16:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Meotch SFO Subject: RE: Subject: "DJ Dado" (was Re: tune in KUSF 90.3 right now) To: npm@mail.netwiz.net Cc: sfraves-digest@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i'd call it phatt psytechnojungletrance - it is what a lot of veteran goa djs are turning to now after careening thru the last 7 years at 155 bpm - check out a psytrance party now and that's a lot of what starts and ends the night. its thick and funky with an awesome dark psychedelic edge and beat. i highly recommend it. thump radio calls it music for the new millenium! :) -meotch >Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 15:00:00 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Subject: "DJ Dado" (was Re: tune in KUSF 90.3 right now) So what would people call whatever's playing right now? It's trancy, except that it doesn't suck, and isn't completely monotonous and doesn't lack funk like too much of the trance-like music of thistempo and instrumentation. If anybody's curious and is missing the broadcast, I guess they'll have the archives on http://www.thump-radio.com/ later... ----- Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 14:11:55 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Subject: tune in KUSF 90.3 right now... ...to hear music from "Dado" for more info, check http://www.thump-radio.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 08:26:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2229 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 08:26:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 2221 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 08:26:34 -0000 Received: from mail1.sirius.com (205.134.253.131) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 08:26:34 -0000 Received: from hernancz (ppp-asok03--139.sirius.net [205.134.244.139]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA60813; Mon, 10 May 1999 01:26:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00e801be9abd$4ae6f8e0$8bf486cd@hernancz> Reply-To: "Good Sounds" From: "Good Sounds" To: "Seth Maxwell Malice" Subject: Piracy Ally Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 01:15:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Jaron Lanier (VR guru) speaks http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/99/05/biztech/articles/09internet-music. html it requires reg, so here's the whole article. May 9, 1999 Making an Ally of Piracy By JARON LANIER Since January, major labels have been meeting to develop a system of distributing music on the Internet to combat what they see as piracy. Jaron Lanier, a virtual-reality pioneer and a musician, sees things differently. He is developing what he considers to be a more sensible plan for the emerging digital economy, and here is an excerpt from his manifesto, "Piracy Is Your Friend." Piracy is a phony issue that record labels are hyping to rip off artists. Piracy has always existed. That's why there's a mountain of blank cassettes in any big electronic store. When someone decides to buy your music instead of copying it, they're doing it for a lot of reasons. Maybe they're ethical. Maybe they like the conveni- ence of not having to hassle with the uncertainty of copying something -- Will it come out right? Is it done yet? Maybe it's their way of expressing good will to you. But face it, if your music wasn't available for free in some form, no one would have a chance to hear it to decide to buy it in the first place. The old form of "free" music was radio (which is often taped by pirates) and MTV, but eventually the Internet is going to take over everything. There will still be TV and radio, but they'll be implemented digitally. Give it 10 years. When that happens, the idea of not giving away music for free will be exactly the same thing as never promoting music at all. The real question should not be, "How can I keep my fans from hearing my music for free?" It should be, "How can I best make money from my fans?" Those are two different questions. Sure, you "lose" money to pirates. But you also lose money to a label that isn't doing anything for you. It used to be that a label was needed to finance, manufacture, store, ship and market your music. That's how they earned their cut. The arrangement made sense. If the music business wasn't shrinking before our eyes, it would still make sense. But in the digital era, it costs nothing to ship your music over the Internet to a fan. So the biggest reason for labels just went away. As for financing, well, if advances were stacked up against finance deals in other industries, they'd look a lot like usury -- except that they aren't even loans: once they're paid back, the label still owns the master. There is simply no worse conceivable form of financing. We can do better if we take charge of our own careers. But what about marketing? Can labels still do that? Of course they can, for a few big acts. But once you are established, your own Web site connects with your fan base better than the label can. Even if you are a huge artist, think whether in the course of your whole career, not just the next couple of years, you lose more money to pirates or to labels who will be taking most of your money for no reason at all? When somebody in a dorm room buys thousands of dollars' worth of gear and stays up all night hacking MP3's just to get "free" music, that's what you call an opportunity, not a problem. You have found yourself a new generation of fanatics. The only problem is that computer companies are making the money right now instead of musicians. Labels can't prevent piracy. No one can. I know computers as well as anyone on the planet, and I promise you, kids will break whatever copy protection scheme the labels come up with. And the industry knows it. In fact, the easier it is to copy music, the less of a threat piracy will become. When piracy gets easier, professional pirates have less to offer. The only pirates left will be fans. And there are lots of ways to make money from fans. The reason the Recording Industry Association of America and the labels are pushing anti-piracy laws and technologies has nothing to do with preventing piracy. They're doing it so that they can control the new digital music channels. To keep anyone else, like you, from sharing the power. They're doing it to rip you off. Period. You can make more money in the new era of "free" digital music. But only if you break free of label mind control. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 10:14:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23586 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 10:14:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 23567 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 10:14:38 -0000 Received: from mail2.acninc.net (38.201.2.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 10:14:38 -0000 Received: from athens.crosswinds.net (ip94.san-francisco31.ca.pub-ip.psi.net) by mail2.acninc.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.2.1998.10.13.00.06) with ESMTP id <0FBH006X6S6I6Q@mail2.acninc.net> for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Sun, 9 May 1999 21:01:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 17:56:40 -0700 From: Anton Subject: Hi Ticket stubs? *sniff* To: SF Raves Message-id: <37362EC7.65A7C6F7@athens.crosswinds.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey, i brought mah Hi ticket stub 2 vorg, and some lady told me i didn't get anything fer it... then some other guy said 2 just bring it back 2 tha place i bought it and they'd gimme a refund... i'm curious az to what happened to others... ^_^ Anton ( nEmo ) Purple Panduh b0i From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 10:14:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23703 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 10:14:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 23568 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 10:14:39 -0000 Received: from mail2.acninc.net (38.201.2.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 10:14:39 -0000 Received: from athens.crosswinds.net (ip7.san-francisco31.ca.pub-ip.psi.net) by mail2.acninc.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.2.1998.10.13.00.06) with ESMTP id <0FBH00FH9A2G5Q@mail2.acninc.net> for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:30:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 11:25:26 -0700 From: Anton Subject: mah review... =D To: SF Raves Message-id: <3735D316.59F2B510@athens.crosswinds.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk didn't get 2 tha skills party till around 4, =( once we got into golden gate park, everyone sorda just played follow tha raver, cuz the music wasn't really that loud, but it was kickin' nonetheless! Besides tha dirt factor, i had a great time, good good vibes and i'll definitely b back there on tha 4th fer F8's party. ^_^ Then we made our way over to 2nd & Jackson... my what a trek that was... THANK YOU CARSON, if you're on here 4 tha directions, =D Well, tha vibes at Vorg were pretty darn good if u ask me, but i was a BIT disappointed 4 tha big room 2 have not been tha trance room, it was SOOOOO PACKED IN THERE!! i heard that origin waz worse tho. ^_^ Dj D rawked, az usual, but once again, I MISSED THOMAS!! *pout* it waz a friend of mine's 3rd rave & 2nd time on E, and she couldn't handle it an' flipped out, so i had to take her outta there once she recovered... *sniff* whoever saw thomas, i'm SURE he rawked!! I guess i'm definitely goin' to T&J's 2 year now, tho. =D there were only a few things that really got 2 me... One: there was thiz guy who waz fucked up on god knows what just throwing himself about in every which way, and he came up 2 me at some point and just pushed me & sent me sailing like 4 feet... =( it happened to SOOO many other people, and THEN-- AND THEN-- he came up 2 me an' mah friend Liz, he looked at our KandEE and just grabbed at it and yanked till her bracelet just flew 2 pieces evvverywhere, then he just walked off... She was sooooo stunned... it waz terrible... but we saw him taken out by some security a few minutes later... so we all cheered... Then, to top things off... i saw Alias a 2nd time that night, and noticed he hand a purrdy blue band-aid on his forehead... i asked him whaut happened, and he said that someone put out a cigarette on hiz forehead... HELLO!! that's SOOOO insanely rude!! *sigh* but i really did have a GREAT time, even tho we had 2 leave early, the sec. guy (alan, i think) waz really cool, and lemme go back in and find a friend so we could both go sleep in her car... thingz worked out. ^_^ aaron, pika had a GREEEEAT time, & i got a STOREEEEE 4 yew!! HOOOOWAH!! =D LuvZ, Anton ( nEmo ) Purple Panduh b0i From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 11:51:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14193 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 11:51:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 14181 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 11:50:59 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 11:50:59 -0000 Received: from [206.169.228.154] (ghana-154.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.228.154]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA15007; Mon, 10 May 1999 04:50:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 05:12:26 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Mon) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello...today's quote is... There is no wealth but life. ---John Ruskin ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 12:25:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25328 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 12:25:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 25316 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 12:25:16 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?hRUx/BH1ZThVD/4dZ0eWTwsAumjgFgLL?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 12:25:16 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id FAA16666; Mon, 10 May 1999 05:25:15 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 05:25:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, murphymc@concentric.net Subject: NRR: Macs vs PCs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Not this past weekend but the weekend before that I had the chance for the first time in my life to fly somewhere and say silly things somewhere else, in Durham, NC, and Atlanta, GA. I picked up a rather wicked fucking free zine called Vice from Montreal, which is maybe my favorite city on Earth, big up per-capita babe ratios! Ther eis a rather funny top 10 thing in it, MAcs vs PCs 1) PC Users look like racists from the early 1950's but Mac users have tatoos and smoke pot. 2) when the year 2000 hits, everything PC will explode while Macs let out a great big yawn and casually go abou;t their day. Even Windows 98 has serious Y2K problems. How do you make software for 1998 and not think about 1999? 3) USB was invented by Intel, Microsoft, and other PC manufacturers to replace aging serial connections. Of course, PC are a bunch of cry babies that were too scared to use it, so Mac adopted it as the new standard and put it on the iMac. No doubt PCs will be using a cheaper version if it does well. 4) Firewire is thanks to Apple. Apple brought SCSI into this world and Apple's taking it out. 5) Quicktime movies take up almost no space and have excellent image quality while Microsoft's .AVI format is fat and clunky and looks like watching TV from across the sreet. 6) VICE is done on Macs. 7_ Windows bit their interface from the Mac, but they forgot toteal the good parts. The folder windows don't size to surround your files; they fill the whole fucking screen. And what is with that "start" menu? Didn't they learn anything from Xerox? We can see the folder, but it doesn't open. The only thing Microsoft ever did that was of any value was getting Brian Eno to make up their start-up chime. 8) Everyone at PC hardware manufacturers like IMB shits in their pants and goes to Blockbuster. 9) a 400mhz G3 is still faster than a dual pentium II 450, which is now like two horses trying to pull a jet instead of one. 10) The New Pentium III. It's bigger, and sucks more power, but now it has more instruction sets (part of its problem in the first place). Some PC users have spread rumors that the P3 is a RISC chip, like the G3s or SGIs. If you believe that shit, then you also believe the P3 is the path to "faster internet." Some of that makes no sense to me, but I am imagining a cute Quebecois girl writing it, and I am peeing in my pants laughing, thusly. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 12:51:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3118 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 12:51:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 3110 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 12:51:53 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?9jAMoVumDAjWEO7XtHUw9TXypLAZclDH?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 12:51:53 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id FAA18887 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 05:51:52 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 05:51:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley Reply-To: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: last week in sf-jungle Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I just want to send massive massive amounts of respect and high fives to you if you: a) went to Doc Scott on Monday at Density in the J-League last Monday b) attended the Phuncktion at the Top, or supported whoever brought 4 Hero to the DNA Lounge on Tuesday c) joined us all in a embarassed-to-be-from-SF-why-is-there-no one-here V Planet session at DNA where Jumpin Jack Frost and Bryan G slammed everything we wanted to hear and the shit we didn't exactly know we wanted to hear, but will know we want to hear when American DJ's start playing it in like 6 months. Maybe, if 1/3 of the tunes they played ever get released. And watched the eternally awesome MC Moose not give a fuck how many people where there and prowl the stage like a hungry lion. On Wednesday. d) went to Eklektic on Thursday and checked out Mike Bee and Tik Tak who are badasses from the Pittsburg-Cleveland corridor, who now happily do their thang here in the Bay, and do it WICKEDLY. e) checked the Twin Towers, Sage and Siren and MC Tardy Duh at 1015 Folsom, Friday. f) gave me a ride anywhere, THANK YOU JESS ICA, HI FIONA. My quote of the day: "The sun is hot, the sun is not a place that we could live!" 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 15:07:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21385 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 15:07:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 21377 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 15:07:08 -0000 Received: from netcom6.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.114) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 15:07:08 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom6.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id IAA07414; Mon, 10 May 1999 08:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 08:07:07 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Re: Passions for your genre: To: E-Bumpers By the Bay In-Reply-To: <11ff84b0.2467ca82@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 10 May 1999 BigM009@aol.com wrote: > Id like to hear what each person has to say about thier passion? breakbeat rocks for two fairly simple reasons: 1) that pounding "four-on-the-floor" quarter note beat gets really old after a while. after about 5 minutes or so, it completely distracts me from everything else in the music. all i can hear is BOOM-BOOM-BOOM-BOOM and i wind up with a nasty headache. but when the beat are synchopated, it doesn't burn out my ear and i stay interested in the tunes. 2) breakbeat is not "higher brain" kind of music. it goes pretty much straight from the ear to the booty and starts it shakin'. i think that breakbeat has more "danceability" than other forms of 'techno' music. it's not the kind of thing you listen to to go on a mind trip or to get in touch with Shiva or something. you hear it, your ass shakes and you go dance. i think that's pretty much what dance music is supposed to do. if i wanted to just bug out, i could sit at home with headphones on listening to Phillip Glass or Mike Oldfield. but if i'm going to boogie, give me the breaks. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 15:08:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22507 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 15:08:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 22494 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 15:08:11 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 15:08:11 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (3705) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNAOa20907; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:06:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:06:12 EDT Subject: Re: Passions for your genre:junglE To: BigM009@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/10/99 1:37:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, BigM009@aol.com writes: << I understand that each person has a passion for thier own genre of music. Mine happens to be house. Both Deep and progressive. Throw in a mix of trance and Im in heaven. Id like to hear what each person has to say about thier passion? Such as all the jungle heads, trance babys and so forth. >> jungle is the shit that keeps on commin out my ASS....no wait that didnt sound right...or did it?? well u cant tell when u eat, sleep, think jungle every day. i am a beat kid and when i hear a fresh beat thats what gets me going. jungle has more fresh beats than your local lucky's in the veggie dept. DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 15:24:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2990 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 15:24:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 2982 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 15:24:34 -0000 Received: from f71.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.157) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 15:24:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 79029 invoked by uid 0); 10 May 1999 15:24:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19990510152407.79028.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 May 1999 08:24:07 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: (BSP) First Light May 15th Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 08:24:07 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey Everybody, Hope you are having a happy monday and no email server crashed on you over the weekend and you have to pull from the tape backup. I hate when that happens but such is life.. Wanted to send you all a reminder about a little shindig going down this Saturday. It is the First Light one year anniversary.. There are still a Limited number of $15 pre-sale tickets on sale once those are gone there will be $20 pre-sales there after. They are available at the following locations: Trance and Jungle factory,F-8,Soid Grooves,Harmonics and in the mixx. This will be a permitted event for those of you that may have any concerns about it getting busted or stuff like that. With that out of the way here is the lineup: ROOM 1 ANDYW,GREG SANDLER,MARS,MYSTRE, HAPPY KID IAN, HAPPY KID MARTY, ANDREI MORANT (A.K.A JACK MACKREL TEMPLATE RECORDS UK) MACADIO. ROOM 2 HAK,SIPHON RINSE,FLUX, PROTOLAB (LIVE PA) MICRON. There has been a little confusion about Rinse and Flux people thought that they might not be at the party to clear up any confusion or rumors right now. Rinse and Flux are confirmed they happen to be playing at formula as well the same night. The time slots for the DJ's are as follows: 10-12 AndyW & Greg Sandler 12-1:30 Mars & Mystre 1:30-3 Andrei Morant 3-4:30 Marty & Ian 4:30-6 Macadio 11-12:30 Hak & Siphon 12:30-2 Rinse & Flux 2-4 Protolab 4-5:30 Micron Sound by Xtreme Audio and Extreme Ent. Laser by UV 99 Hope to see some of you there!! any questions,comments complaints please email me privately Macadio (FL collective) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 15:43:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14678 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 15:42:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 14660 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 15:42:54 -0000 Received: from f258.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.149) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 15:42:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 35684 invoked by uid 0); 10 May 1999 15:42:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19990510154228.35683.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 May 1999 08:42:27 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: (BSP) First Light Forgot one MC Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 08:42:27 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Doh!! Forgot my main man MC duuuuuuuuuhhhhhhh Will be laying down the dope rythms in the Jungle room see ya, Macadio From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 16:11:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14059 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 16:11:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 14042 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 16:11:43 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 16:11:43 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA22485; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id QAA08981; Mon, 10 May 1999 16:08:42 GMT From: "MooK<><" To: "Joshua Goldberg" , "SFRaves" Subject: RE: old skool vs. new skool? Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 09:16:32 -0700 Message-ID: <005f01be9b00$7818a960$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <001601be98f2$a7db0950$f63b85d1@royal.dand> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk When you get a little older you'll question this logic less. M<>< > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of Joshua Goldberg > Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 6:33 PM > To: SF raves > Subject: RE: old skool vs. new skool? > > > When you say children dont belong at raves because they dont know their > boundaries, i question the logic. first of all at what age does someone > stop being a child? I know forty year olds who havent grown up > yet. Another > thing, do grown ups know their boundaries any better than kids? > I have seen > plenty of people older than me (i am seventeen) ODing or flippin > out. If we > can reach younger minds with the message of Peace Unity Love Respect than > wouldnt that be better than kids joining scenes that promote violence and > hate? How old do you consider people when they are children. I will agree > that kids from 0-about 12 should not be at raves because i dont believe > their "innocent" minds should be surrounded with drugs. Hugs and > lollipops, > Josh > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > > Behalf Of MooK<>< > > Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 6:20 PM > > To: leslie.ayres@excite.com; Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys > > Subject: RE: old skool vs. new skool? > > > > > > The problem I find is when people infringe on the rights of others. "New > > Skooler's" have a higher tendency to do this, and "Old Skooler's" have a > > higher tendency of noticing it. Hence, "New Skooler's" get the > > blame for all > > the ills of the scene. > > > > You start out meeting lots of people, and soon you know almost everyone. > > After a while you notice all these new people showing up. They're new so > > they don't understand all the lessons you had to learn and act > "immature." > > Also, with all this new blood you don't know everyone anymore > and a lot of > > the people you did know aren't around. So you blame all the new > > people, and > > get jaded. Then you either move on, or try and unite all the > old people to > > relive the times you used to have, or deal with it and do what > every feels > > good at the time. There are other options but those are the most common. > > How's that for a run-on thought =P > > > > Maybe that's a bunch of crap, maybe not. I do know that hangin > out with my > > friends is fun. Electronic music is what I prefer to listen to. > > Raves offer > > a place for me to enjoy both. When I no longer enjoy going to > raves, I'll > > stop going. > > > > Raves do not change people, experiences change people. If it > > takes a rave to > > have those experiences then go to raves; if it's something else > then go do > > that. > > > > I will however say that children do not belong at raves. There minds and > > bodies aren't fully developed and they do not have the > experience to know > > their boundaries. I do not care how mature they think they are, > they still > > have a lot of growing up to do. > > > > =) > > MooK<>< > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 16:36:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26988 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 16:36:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 26979 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 16:36:20 -0000 Received: from web804.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 16:36:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19990510164123.4318.rocketmail@web804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web804.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:41:23 PDT Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 09:41:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: angry jess ica, down girl, long story To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yeah, i cruized over to 1015 on friday night, considering i hadnt been out all week since seeing doc scott on monday and i was ready to get schwillied with the rest of em chillin in the BASSment. I wait in line very content like ready to get my groove on, smilin at the security, being a happy ass. I hand over my id, rarin' to walk in and do my usual 1015 routine, Do NOT pass GO, do NOT collect $200, go directly to the bassment. But wait, they are not letting me in, not with my id, three security guards check it and decide that there is no way that is me in my REAL id. That got me angry, and i dont often get angry at lame people simply because they are lame, but i was angry. My car was parked god knows where, in the middle of sf, i was not in the mood to deal with it. I didnt cause much of a scene like a should of, i just decided to walk back to my car. hmmmmmmm, wheres my car? It took me an hour to find it, after asking every perverted 1015 security lurking the backstreets for help, then i found my friend who was pick-pocketed by one of the security, we finally got in (my friend fiona by the way is working her way in with a fake id, but they never questioned her???) But of course it was all worth it when i got to spend the rest of the night feelin the funk, and dancin on the darkside with dj Sage, and Siren, two extremely talented djs, and of course mctardyDuh keepin the bassment alive. One last thing, when I was telling my story to the security guard downstairs he looked at me and said: Your hardcore. I smiled my 14-year-old smile and danced off. Thank you. Jessica and ill never pay a single dime to enter that place again. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 16:50:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4115 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 16:50:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 4098 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 16:50:37 -0000 Received: from pohl.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 16:50:37 -0000 Received: from godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.42]) by pohl.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id MAA16755; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:44:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA24214; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:44:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:44:06 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu To: GoscarArch@AOL.COM cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: DC rave scene drama In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well welcome to the bay area!! you will definitly find this place wonderful. i'm sorry to hear about buzz - even though that place could get clubbish sometimes (it was better once 2 am hit and all the bar poeple left) i still loved that event. i was surprised to hear that the lady from fox news found the police to be such slackers, because when i was there they would kick you out if you were counting your money anywhere besides at the bar, and i was even lucky enough to get caught in the bathroom (doing something naughty) and got kicked out on my butt with people screaming at my friend and i "YOU ARE BAD BAD GIRLS!! BAD!!" for those of you who have ever been to buzz you can sympathize with me when i say that losing that event is another big loss for our community. for those who have never had the chance to go to the east coast, buzz was a mainstay (for me) to hear some of my favorite east coast and west coast dj's while i was stuck in hell at college. this is kind of ironic though because just as fever started back up again, buzz gets shuts down. much love, amber --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 16:56:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6873 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 16:56:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 6864 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 16:56:10 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 16:56:10 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-120.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.120]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA29873 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:56:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990510153033.006c2310@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:30:33 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: NRR a very sad thing..well not really Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk *sniff sniff* Actress Dano Plato died over the weekend. She was the girl who played Kimberly on Differnt Strokes, who later turned into a drug addict and then a liqor store robber, and then a porn actress. This is a very sad day for us all..coincedently she dies from a over dose of valium and um, sumtin else. She was 34 years old. *I am not really serious about being dramatic over her death, even though in reality her life was sad* Yea so anyways, I was on the Muni yet again and I hear this conversation between these 4 close to homelessness (i'm guessing heroin) addicts. So the conversation goes like this. So I took this pill and it was like acid without the colors. Oh yeah? It was crazy. This pill had like a trident on one side and a line on the other. I got it from market and 6th (not real street), right on the corner. Cool man Yea the person said that they have these things a lot at these warehouse parties called raves. What are raves? They are these big warehouse parties where all these kids go, like every week a new warehouse and the kids just go. It's crazy. I went to one once and like verybody was just laying down and touching each other. That's all they do. Thats crazy. Is that stuff kind of speedy? (He replied, "No it was clean" but on with this guy) Naw man. I think i'll stick with my heroin cuz I know what I am getting with that. I need to go tot he libary to shoot up/deal. End conversation Ok I must be really naive. I didn't know that the libary is like a huge crackhouse. I ask my friend and he is like yea it is. Every morning you have crack heads lining up around the corner to get in. Which just blew me away.. The libary is a crackhouse! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh legalize n regulate dat shiate. *cringe* "We make our patients take heroin to kick them off their morphine addiction" -- The period after the civil war Wasting more bandwidth, Nuku From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 17:15:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15224 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 17:15:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 15177 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 17:14:52 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 17:14:52 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-192.dsp.com [204.118.76.192]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA32601; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:14:49 -0700 Message-Id: <199905101714.KAA32601@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:14:11 -0700 To: Nuku , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: NRR a very sad thing..well not really In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19990510153033.006c2310@apollo.sfsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OK, what's really funny about the reports about Miz Plato is that they all say she accidentally overdosed on Rx meds. Those being "Loritab" and Valium. Lortab (no i) is Vicodin mixed with Tylenol. Icky, heavy drug that makes one catatonic if the does isn't just right, and makes you constipated for days after taking it. Not a recreational drug of choice unless you're stupid-hardcore. Valium is, well, Valium. Both are bigtime CNS depressents. No MD in their right mind would Rx these together. Oh, Dana said on Howard Stern last week, when they wanted her to take a drug test after she said she'd been clean and sober for 10 yrs, that she'd been taking pain meds for 16 WEEKS since having her wisdom teeth pulled. 16 weeks on Lortab! She must have had a laxative addiction to match her vicodin one. Valium would certainly pull you out of it, but the hard way. Which is how she chose to go, I guess. The moral is - know your drugs, and don't be a dork and kill yourself at your in-laws house. Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 17:19:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18366 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 17:19:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 18350 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 17:19:41 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?tnFTpTCjuLlrHsE7ukKxkTzz2Qq4Bt0S?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 17:19:41 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id KAA21903 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:19:40 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:19:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: nrr: rip kimberly In-Reply-To: <199905101714.KAA32601@mail.dsp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What a thoroughly miserable life story. No one deserves the way she grew up and the way she got old, and the way she left. I heard from friends that on Howard Stern she was trying to tell everyone that she'd been straight, and people kept calling in saying NO WAY YOU CRACKWHORE or words to that effect. =( No fair. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 17:21:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20242 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 17:21:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 20221 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 17:21:44 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 17:21:44 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-192.dsp.com [204.118.76.192]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA00015 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:21:42 -0700 Message-Id: <199905101721.KAA00015@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:21:04 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: NRR: altered states - synaesthesia Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Synaesthesia (seeing sounds as colors) was one of the things we studied in neurology for linguistics at Berkeley, and it makes alot of sense and is something I think the average person misses out on. I've never seen something so simple and effective as this guy's website: http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/cassidy/syn/nopix.html Enjoy, Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 17:26:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22366 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 17:26:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 22253 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 17:26:06 -0000 Received: from f131.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 17:26:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 65073 invoked by uid 0); 10 May 1999 17:25:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19990510172539.65072.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.62.244.116 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:25:39 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.62.244.116] From: "Jason Branch the Scarecrow Pyximhn" To: nuku@sfsu.edu Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRRGeneric Orals [was:a very sad thing well not really] Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:25:39 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >For: Nuku > Two drug addicts walk into the library. Kind of romantic, huh? > > Oh yeah? > > > Cool man > > >"We make our patients take heroin to kick them off their morphine >addiction" >-- The period after the civil war > >Wasting more bandwidth, () >Nuku > > "Morphine is something to go fetal over after its gone." I'm starting at SFSU in the Autumn of '99. going... going... I'm gone Jaw - Ta from Pyximhn From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 17:34:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27077 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 17:34:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 27049 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 17:33:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tides3.tides) (198.94.2.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 17:33:58 -0000 Received: by TIDES3 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:41:46 -0700 Message-ID: From: Mark Hellar To: "raves \(E-mail\)" Subject: Check out My latest DNB Track Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:41:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk oKCgoKCgoCBIZWFyIHRoZSBSZWFsIEF1ZGlvIFN0cmVhbSBvciBkb3dubG9hZCB0aGUgTVAzIGF0 Og0KaHR0cDovL2hvbWUuZWFydGhsaW5rLm5ldC9+dmFqcmFzYXR2YSAuIEZlZWwgZnJlZSB0byBj aG9wIGl0IHVwIGFuZCB1c2UNCml0IGZvciB5b3VyIG93biBzdHVmZiBhbmQgbGV0IG1lIGtub3cg d2hhdCB5b3UgdGhpbmsuIFBlYWNloKCgoKCgoCANCqANCqCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCg oKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoA0KoKCgoKCg oKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKAgfk1hcmsNCg== From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 17:38:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29516 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 17:38:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 29507 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 17:38:15 -0000 Received: from kuku-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO kuku.excite.com) (198.3.99.63) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 17:38:15 -0000 Received: from pounce.excite.com ([199.172.152.99]) by kuku.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990510173748.IISE19570.kuku@pounce.excite.com> for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:37:48 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: old skool vs. new skool? Message-Id: <926357867.28084.816@excite.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:37:47 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk so a couple of people are protesting that the very folks who mocked them in the past have now had a change of heart and have somehow turned into "ravers" (whatever *that* actually means!)... or at least taken on the "raver style"... and while i certainly know that insincerity in anything stands out and can be so grating and irritating... (and happens to be one of my pet peeves... i'd rather have friends who are sincerely weird misfits than be around people who are superficial and only about fashion trends) i also think we should remind ourselves that PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO CHANGE AND EVOLVE... and someone who was an asshole a year ago (or at least appeared to be)... CAN make a change and "see the light" and let go of their judgments etc. and transform.... it is my strong and fervent belief that each of us CAN make leaps in our personal development and evolution... i know it has happened to me.... and yes, some of that may have been triggered by a revelation i had that was spurred by a happy little pill, or it might have been some other epiphany... but i know i have had great leaps of realizations that have changed me... so... instead of calling someone who has transformed from an asshole into an apparently openminded person a hypocrite... maybe you should give the benefit of the doubt to them... and TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT.... if you think your friends at school are just wannabes and followers, how about asking them about the change? in a truly open and kind way, with a truly open and kind heart and mind... you could say "hey, you know last year you made fun of how i dressed and the music i liked... what happened?" ... i bet the story that follows might be interesting... and you'll at least know if you're talking to someone who's truly changed... and you might be introducing some new self-awareness to that person... AND you'll be showing yourself and them that working to be open in your mind and heart means not forcing people to stay the same because it's easier for you to perceive the world that way... and if you allow others to change... then you're also setting the ground for them to allow YOU to change... and that kind of evolution, making the world a better place... is really a very powerful force we can tap into in our community, i think.... this would seem so important especially since most of these situations are talking about KIDS who are all trying on new personas and ways of interacting in the world... that's just part of growing up... and if someone goes from an obnoxious skinhead to a happy-happy-joy-joy raver... well, that may be what they need to experience in their development, and frankly, i'd hate for them to be punished for that particular transformation by being cold-shouldered by those who suspect their intentions... and who knows, you might even make a new friend along the way. because that next newbie who walks in the door, maybe looking out of place and a little bit anxious... is someone you'll be knowing as a friend for the rest of your life! leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 17:41:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1384 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 17:41:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 1260 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 17:40:58 -0000 Received: from fortune-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO fortune.excite.com) (198.3.99.203) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 17:40:58 -0000 Received: from derby.excite.com ([199.172.152.144]) by fortune.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990510174030.INVU6626.fortune@derby.excite.com> for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:40:30 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: old skool vs. new skool? Message-Id: <926358030.17123.932@excite.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:40:30 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk so a couple of people are protesting that the very folks who mocked them in the past have now had a change of heart and have somehow turned into "ravers" (whatever *that* actually means!)... or at least taken on the "raver style"... and while i certainly know that insincerity in anything stands out and can be so grating and irritating... (and happens to be one of my pet peeves... i'd rather have friends who are sincerely weird misfits than be around people who are superficial and only about fashion trends) i also think we should remind ourselves that PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO CHANGE AND EVOLVE... and someone who was an asshole a year ago (or at least appeared to be)... CAN make a change and "see the light" and let go of their judgments etc. and transform.... it is my strong and fervent belief that each of us CAN make leaps in our personal development and evolution... i know it has happened to me.... and yes, some of that may have been triggered by a revelation i had that was spurred by a happy little pill, or it might have been some other epiphany... but i know i have had great leaps of realizations that have changed me... so... instead of calling someone who has transformed from an asshole into an apparently openminded person a hypocrite... maybe you should give the benefit of the doubt to them... and TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT.... if you think your friends at school are just wannabes and followers, how about asking them about the change? in a truly open and kind way, with a truly open and kind heart and mind... you could say "hey, you know last year you made fun of how i dressed and the music i liked... what happened?" ... i bet the story that follows might be interesting... and you'll at least know if you're talking to someone who's truly changed... and you might be introducing some new self-awareness to that person... AND you'll be showing yourself and them that working to be open in your mind and heart means not forcing people to stay the same because it's easier for you to perceive the world that way... and if you allow others to change... then you're also setting the ground for them to allow YOU to change... and that kind of evolution, making the world a better place... is really a very powerful force we can tap into in our community, i think.... this would seem so important especially since most of these situations are talking about KIDS who are all trying on new personas and ways of interacting in the world... that's just part of growing up... and if someone goes from an obnoxious skinhead to a happy-happy-joy-joy raver... well, that may be what they need to experience in their development, and frankly, i'd hate for them to be punished for that particular transformation by being cold-shouldered by those who suspect their intentions... and who knows, you might even make a new friend along the way. because that next newbie who walks in the door, maybe looking out of place and a little bit anxious... is someone you'll be knowing as a friend for the rest of your life! leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 18:11:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27272 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 18:11:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 27237 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 18:11:43 -0000 Received: from f271.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.162) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 18:11:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 8192 invoked by uid 0); 10 May 1999 18:11:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19990510181115.8191.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.227.43.15 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:11:14 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.227.43.15] From: "Fruit Cup" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: get yer CyberFest '99 tix! Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:11:14 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i just bought 4 tix from BASS online for $30 each, with a mere $25 handling charge/convenience fee...BASS-holes... Cyberfest 98, Santa Clara Co. Fairgrounds July 10, 1999 5:00PM http://www.basstickets.com/cgi-bin/nph-avail?venue=SCO&event=CYBER&date=Jul+10+1999++5%3A00+PM&OID=BAS anyone know if the lineup is online anywhere? -fruity From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 18:28:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7414 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 18:28:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 7397 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 18:28:31 -0000 Received: from web802.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.62) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 18:28:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19990510182740.26239.rocketmail@web802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web802.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:27:40 PDT Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:27:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: jungle Mp3s??? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i know i deleted a website someone sent out today with jungle mp3s, if someone has it can you resend it privately? i cant find it in my delete folder. tia, jess From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 18:36:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12328 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 18:36:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 12305 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 18:36:06 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 18:36:06 -0000 Received: from SpinDazE@aol.com (8044) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vEWZa24274; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:34:59 -0400 (EDT) From: SpinDazE@aol.com Message-ID: <40636390.246880d2@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:34:58 EDT Subject: Re: get yer CyberFest '99 tix! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org CC: fruitcup@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk um ok, no offense fruitloop, u don't know the lineup and the tix for july are being sold and bought now. . . Hmmm i'll be honest and say that I am 5% NOT sure if I will be attending this extravaganza bonanza. . . it sounds like . . . i dont think I would have a good time. Thats just me not wanting to go to the "fairgrounds" in Santa Clara I dont care if they are bring Chemical brothers or Josh Wink or even if they parachuted down Carl Cox or Moby or Goldie . . . OK maybe something like them would change my mind . . . but neway I really think the Bay Are is becoming the hick version of LA scene. !MASSIVE!MASSIVE!MASSIVE! In a message dated 5/10/99 11:11:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time, fruitcup@hotmail.com writes: << i just bought 4 tix from BASS online for $30 each, with a mere $25 handling charge/convenience fee...BASS-holes... Cyberfest 98, Santa Clara Co. Fairgrounds July 10, 1999 5:00PM http://www.basstickets.com/cgi-bin/nph-avail?venue=SCO&event=CYBER&date=Jul+10 +1999++5%3A00+PM&OID=BAS anyone know if the lineup is online anywhere? -fruity >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 18:38:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14270 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 18:38:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 14152 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 18:38:06 -0000 Received: from f218.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.109) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 18:38:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 14784 invoked by uid 0); 10 May 1999 18:37:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19990510183739.14783.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.62.244.116 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:37:39 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.62.244.116] From: "Jason Branch the Scarecrow Pyximhn" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: old skool vs. new skool? Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:37:39 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk "I'm gon` write some just for that, and just because. Now the sun hits this hat a little bit longer don` mean that the hat you wear is gon` fade any less, hear? Ooo, Chile', things a` gon' get easier. Ooo Chile`, well things w'll be brighter. Y'ina bloatin' with size large Kharmic investment! Ole School at playin'? All KIND an' ole school? ~ T'inkin' beneath this hat y'ina mean AOL school? Tryn'a RAVE ON! Wat? Spun some yarn for the mad syle y'ina havin' edgewise. [I only get to confuse the scary people.]" Stay Safe and Keep the Faith ~ Sky's Blue, an' I'm Smilen - how about Odd's Cool vs. New School?" going... going... I'm gone Jaw - Ta from Pyximhn pro bona escritoire: >Subject: Re: old skool vs. new skool? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 19:05:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2399 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 19:05:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 2352 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 19:05:06 -0000 Received: from web121.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.129) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 19:05:06 -0000 Message-ID: <19990510191010.3206.rocketmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web121.yahoomail.com; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:10:10 PDT Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:10:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: get yer CyberFest '99 tix! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'd have to agree with Spin on this one. I was going to go to the last one at Homebase on Halloween. When I got on 'burger St. There was hordes of people running all over the place. Mass mobs everywhere. It was too much, too many different groups going for too many different reasons. I don't mind the difference, but in such a shear amount the difference usually means that there will be stupid people breaking out into fights, because someone looked at someone the 'wrong way' I'm not into all that poo-poo so I sold off my tix at taco bell and left. With all that in mind, they are saying this one will be bigger. Well.....You get the point. I'll be "swimming in a different stream" that nite. ;) *HUGZ* pat From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 19:11:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5737 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 19:11:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 5612 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 19:11:18 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?kYt9uN9YbxFdsfXQktehMODhXChfM57i?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 19:11:18 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id MAA15735; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:11:14 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:11:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: Patrick Seaton cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Cyberfest Halloween, etc. In-Reply-To: <19990510191010.3206.rocketmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk As always (according to me) the simple solution to all this bullshit you may have been accosted by was: find jungle room. stay there all night or until your ride leaves. fall hopelessly in love with one of the DJ's that spun. BOH BOH BOH I think I'll be doing that again at this next one...AS WE ENTA THE CYBA. 10-4, duh, max On Mon, 10 May 1999, Patrick Seaton wrote: > I'd have to agree with Spin on this one. I was going to go to the last > one at Homebase on Halloween. When I got on 'burger St. There was > hordes of people running all over the place. Mass mobs everywhere. It > was too much, too many different groups going for too many different > reasons. I don't mind the difference, but in such a shear amount the > difference usually means that there will be stupid people breaking out > into fights, because someone looked at someone the 'wrong way' I'm not > into all that poo-poo so I sold off my tix at taco bell and left. > > With all that in mind, they are saying this one will be bigger. > Well.....You get the point. > > I'll be "swimming in a different stream" that nite. ;) > > *HUGZ* > pat > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 19:13:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7260 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 19:13:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 7110 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 19:13:26 -0000 Received: from mole.slip.net (HELO beaver.slip.net) (207.171.193.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 19:13:26 -0000 Received: from [209.209.14.15] (helo=ntserver.bgdesign.com) by mole.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 10gvUR-0001YY-00 for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:13:23 -0700 Received: by NTSERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.74) id ; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:49:25 -0700 Message-ID: From: Mark Schumacher To: "'sfraves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: skills in the park review plus good experiences Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:49:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.74) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk have to say -- it was a beautiful day. me and my friend aria got there round 1:30 or so and it was alive when we walked down into the bandshell to some rollin teckno. it took us a while to get situated, but we eventually had a great lil picnic with the trance boomin close by. (strawberry on a tree anybody?) always love that trance. sometimes you just forget about the cheese factor, y'know? you look around, see the aquarium with its huge signs saying earth, sea, space. look down the symmetrical lines of trees. or up at the bandshell itself, with beautiful carvings.the blue sky. what a perfect space to dance. we were so lucky to be there. when ya get down to it, that there WAS vibe. and it that it was FREE. and we coexisted PEACEFULLY. just that was enough to make my week. it was enought to remind me that the rave can be about revolution. or re-evolution. more than just playing and dancin and havin a good time. it changes folks. because it was in the park i didn't have that "i'm in a warehouse all night-if i don't dance it'll hurt the vibe" feelin so i wandered most the afternoon, and when i did dance -- mostly to the last set (mars i think). it was even better because by that point i was dancin cause the music had seeped into me and my body wouldn't do anything else but groove and love it. that was so cool the best thing that happened there was when my pal aria was sittin at our little camp playin with some tarot cards -- they're really pretty rainbow like images - the zen osho deck, and a couple o happy young girls dropped by to ask her what she was doin. (maybe they were rollin -- maybe not, they sure were open though). they hung out with us for a while and talked about how the cards they were looking at were really important to them -- it was like beginning to be a mystic experience for them... i love it when people talk about how much raves are changing them inside - especially when it's sooo positive. Then, i sat down with one of the girls, beth, and began singin somethin to her along to the trance. i don't really remember what it was, somethin about the sun and her soul opening and how things were connecting - but it was one of those rave moments where it's not you singing -- its the music singing through you, only it just happens to be in english cause it's coming from your mouth and everything flows like this deep river where the sun and the beats and the trees and your friends and the voice coming from deep inside of you and the human hearing you all open like a beatuiful yet complex flower sailing the river and patterns of light dapple the water as the cool rushing flows over you... (gush, gush, etc.--hey don't tease me this was real!!!) -- words truly can not express the day that I had yesterday. everything just fell into place like it was destined to happen, and now I have come out of that experience feeling changed. Something inside of me opened up. -- this is the reason i've been goin to raves for so many years. true i've seen the cycles come and go -- i'd choose everytime to be in a commercialization cycle like now where you gotta pick and choose your vibe carefully then in the cycles where every party you try to go to gets busted and you are grateful if you have a single uninterrupted night once all summer. hey -- look at all the raw material we've got to work with -- and i don't mean that the old skoolers can go out and proselytize the current new wave of ravers, turnin 'em into good lil plur kids -- i mean all of us and our opportunities to change and grow -- like i can never kick down those perfect moments without someone open to give em to. it's almost like as if somethin in me mirrors the inner beauty of their souls for a minute or two. wouldn't work with a police man (except maybe at buzz in D.C.? jus kidden) maybe i look at the "new kids who dont get it" glass as half full - i gotta be some sort of optimist if i been in the scene seven years... so - big props to skills for pullin off a groovy event, keepin the park clean, carin about us (even handin out a free case of water! very kind!) and thanks to all you out there who supported em and respected the park i am sooo lookin forward to doing it again (F-8 = a new kinda freedom!! yeah!) peace mark edmund (a boy in shiny silver - still learnin, still lovin) p.s. first thing me n ari did when we got back to san jose was wash off alla that dust!!! but it's definitely better than raver funk--yuckers! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 19:30:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17955 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 19:30:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 17947 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 19:30:56 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 19:30:56 -0000 Received: from Barbero420@aol.com (3706) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vYXWa13995 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:30:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Barbero420@aol.com Message-ID: <863802fd.24688dc1@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:30:09 EDT Subject: Re: Paul*E*Wog To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk first off, id like 2 apologize bout my comments towards Paul*E*Wog, it was wrong and went against my beliefs in PLUR. however, Paul*E*Wog does need 2 check himself. alot of what he says might b offensive 2 others and doesnt promote PLUR. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 19:32:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18998 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 19:32:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 18979 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 19:32:47 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 19:32:47 -0000 Received: from Barbero420@aol.com (3706) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vGBTa26070 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:31:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Barbero420@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:31:35 EDT Subject: Re: Paul*E*Wog To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk first off, id like 2 apologize bout my comments towards Paul*E*Wog, it was wrong and went against my beliefs in PLUR. however, Paul*E*Wog does need 2 check himself. alot of what he says might b offensive 2 others and doesnt promote PLUR. PLUR, BaadBoy420 (aka Barbero420) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 19:39:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22398 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 19:39:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 22229 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 19:39:19 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 19:39:19 -0000 Received: from Barbero420@aol.com (3706) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJLIa04815 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:38:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Barbero420@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:38:15 EDT Subject: Survey To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Tryin 2 put together a list of, and 4, all Bay Area Ravers (B.A.R., hehe), so please respond 2 this survey: Name: Screen name: Age: City: Quote: PLUR, BaadBoy420 (aka Barbero420) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 19:43:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25900 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 19:43:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 25675 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 19:43:01 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 19:43:01 -0000 Received: from Barbero420@aol.com (3706) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vSBWa13994; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:42:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Barbero420@aol.com Message-ID: <6a29d4b4.246890a3@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:42:27 EDT Subject: Re: Survey To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, Barbero420@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Tryin 2 put together a list of, and 4, all Bay Area Ravers (B.A.R., hehe), so please respond 2 this survey: Name: Mario Screen name: Barbero420, BaadBoy420 Age: 20 City: Berkeley & SJ Quote: "It's 4:19, got a minute" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 19:44:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26911 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 19:44:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 26901 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 19:44:26 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 19:44:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19990510192732.23983.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.86.220.227] by web1; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:27:32 PDT Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:27:32 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: Re: Survey bah! To: Barbero420@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Bad raver. We do not deserve one of these every couple weeks. Please, anyone who does respond to this, do so privately?? thanks, folks! -alex ---Barbero420@aol.com wrote: > > Tryin 2 put together a list of, and 4, all Bay Area Ravers (B.A.R., hehe), so > please respond 2 this survey: > > Name: > Screen name: > Age: > City: > Quote: > > PLUR, > BaadBoy420 > (aka Barbero420) > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 19:51:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1944 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 19:51:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 1926 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 19:51:50 -0000 Received: from web129.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.198) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 19:51:50 -0000 Message-ID: <19990510195222.417.rocketmail@web129.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web129.yahoomail.com; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:52:22 PDT Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:52:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: Cyberfest Halloween, etc. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is the room I need to find: 1) One that has really loud bass to keep people that want to stay in the middle of the dance floor to talk. 2) One that sounds really dark and a bit evil to keep the E-babies from camping out on there blankets to rub lotion on each other, because they are cand-E-Flip'n and think the clowns are gonna eat them in there. 3) One that has tight beats that are not so fast they put you in cardiac arrest if you try to dance to the beat. Wait a minute....that IS the jungle room. *HUGZ* pat <<<< SMILE--There is only four more days until the weekend >>>> --- Max McCauley wrote: > > As always (according to me) the simple solution to > all this bullshit you > may have been accosted by was: > > find jungle room. > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 19:54:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4202 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 19:54:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 4040 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 19:54:36 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 19:54:36 -0000 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.9.3/8.8.4) id MAA16401; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:54:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199905101954.MAA16401@atari.saturn5.com> Subject: Kick-ass site for gearheads... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:54:31 -0700 (PDT) Cc: goa@party.net, scr@socal-raves.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk http://www.procom.no/lyddemoer.htm Hear what all those little boxes sound like... (see below) -troy ---------------- Check this site out, picked up on it from a SonicState SynthSite post... http://www.procom.no/lyddemoer.htm If you know french, send this guy a big THANKS FOR YOUR KICK-ASS PAGE for taking the time to put all this up in MP3 format... There's quite a few big-name boxes many of us have asked about here... Hell, I might as well list them. Roland MC303, MC505, JP8000, (Boss) DR-202 Yamaha CS1x, MU-90R, MU-100R, SU-10, A300, SW1000XG, EX series, EX5/r, PLG100VL, PLG100Dx, FS1r, RM1x, CS2x Korg Electribes, Z, N1R Emu Proteus 2000 Zoom Rhythm Trak 234, SampleTrak 224 GEM Real Piano Alesis QSR ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/Casey3.wav <- Casey Kasem in rare form From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 20:03:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9691 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 20:02:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 9554 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 20:02:28 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 20:02:28 -0000 Received: from Anachra@aol.com (14408) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vKSDa17023 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 16:01:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Anachra@aol.com Message-ID: <14f6ba98.24689523@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:01:39 EDT Subject: Re: Survey To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk do me and probably the rest of us a favor and feel free to survey (and respond) away...but respond to him privately please..... thanks, spacey From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 20:04:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10628 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 20:04:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 10527 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 20:04:34 -0000 Received: from law2-f189.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.189) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 20:04:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 69402 invoked by uid 0); 10 May 1999 20:03:58 -0000 Message-ID: <19990510200358.69401.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.250.128.118 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:03:58 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.250.128.118] From: "James Olsen" To: Space201@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Rollin' in the park Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 20:03:58 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Fear not young raver! Believe it or not, a great many of the drugs usually consumed during raves at night can actually be used for a different, but not reduced experience in the daytime! Yes its true! Sunlight does not diminish the effect of drugs! So get out your sunglasses and your hawaian shirts, and prepare to take your recreational drug use to a new level, Into the light! This message brought to you by the Conspicuous Drug Users of America. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 20:10:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14188 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 20:10:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 14176 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 20:10:16 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 20:10:16 -0000 Received: from emfpc-2a (emf-5.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.185.205]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA32372; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:10:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905102010.NAA32372@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: EVILNEMO@athens.crosswinds.net From: "Rafie" Subject: re: Skills CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:13:27 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Excuse me? I can't understand you, you're slurring. SKILLS DAY PARTY: "fun" * I'm glad that so many friends showed up! * It was too dirty to dance in the mushpot * Otherwise the spot was really beautiful * I want another Progress @ Civic Center Plaza!! Thank you. Rafie On Sun, 09 May 1999 11:25:26 -0700, EVILNEMO@athens.crosswinds.net wrote... >didn't get 2 tha skills party till around 4, =( once we got into golden >gate park, everyone sorda just played follow tha raver, cuz the music >wasn't really that loud, but it was kickin' nonetheless! >Besides tha dirt factor, i had a great time, good good vibes and i'll >definitely b back there on tha 4th fer F8's party. ^_^ >Then we made our way over to 2nd & Jackson... my what a trek that was... >THANK YOU CARSON, if you're on here 4 tha directions, =D >Well, tha vibes at Vorg were pretty darn good if u ask me, but i was a >BIT disappointed 4 tha big room 2 have not been tha trance room, it was >SOOOOO PACKED IN THERE!! i heard that origin waz worse tho. ^_^ >Dj D rawked, az usual, but once again, I MISSED THOMAS!! *pout* it waz >a friend of mine's 3rd rave & 2nd time on E, and she couldn't handle it >an' flipped out, so i had to take her outta there once she recovered... >*sniff* whoever saw thomas, i'm SURE he rawked!! I guess i'm >definitely goin' to T&J's 2 year now, tho. =D >there were only a few things that really got 2 me... >One: there was thiz guy who waz fucked up on god knows what just >throwing himself about in every which way, and he came up 2 me at some >point and just pushed me & sent me sailing like 4 feet... =( it >happened to SOOO many other people, and THEN-- AND THEN-- he came up 2 >me an' mah friend Liz, he looked at our KandEE and just grabbed at it >and yanked till her bracelet just flew 2 pieces evvverywhere, then he >just walked off... She was sooooo stunned... it waz terrible... but we >saw him taken out by some security a few minutes later... so we all >cheered... >Then, to top things off... i saw Alias a 2nd time that night, and >noticed he hand a purrdy blue band-aid on his forehead... i asked him >whaut happened, and he said that someone put out a cigarette on hiz >forehead... HELLO!! that's SOOOO insanely rude!! *sigh* >but i really did have a GREAT time, even tho we had 2 leave early, the >sec. guy (alan, i think) waz really cool, and lemme go back in and find >a friend so we could both go sleep in her car... thingz worked out. ^_^ > >aaron, pika had a GREEEEAT time, & i got a STOREEEEE 4 yew!! >HOOOOWAH!! =D > >LuvZ, Anton ( nEmo ) >Purple Panduh b0i > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 20:18:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18859 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 20:18:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 18847 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 20:18:21 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 20:18:21 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (539) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vYLNa04194 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 16:16:25 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <318e681a.24689898@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:16:24 EDT Subject: Re: Rollin' in the park To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/10/1999 1:06:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, flyapart@hotmail.com writes: << Fear not young raver! Believe it or not, a great many of the drugs usually consumed during raves at night can actually be used for a different, but not reduced experience in the daytime! Yes its true! Sunlight does not diminish the effect of drugs! So get out your sunglasses and your hawaian shirts, and prepare to take your recreational drug use to a new level, Into the light! This message brought to you by the Conspicuous Drug Users of America. >> WHY? Where does the need to post like this come from. Can someone please email me and let me know. Thanks. Id really like to understand. Peace, M Groove On From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 20:43:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3239 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 20:43:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 3230 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 20:43:21 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 20:43:21 -0000 Received: from emfpc-2a (emf-5.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.185.205]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA16389 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905102043.NAA16389@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: "Rafie" Subject: Re: Paul*E*Wog Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:46:38 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok. Why does everyone treat "PLUR" as some sort of evil god that we must all appease or we will be punished? PLUR isn't fucking Hitler. (side note: i want to have a dog and name it Hitler) Parties do not exist solely to promote PLUR. And you do not have to live in fear of "ruining the vibe." For example, some post said that someone didn't want to stop dancing because she might hurt the vibe. What the fuck? Continuing to exert yourself in a hot, humid warehouse when you are exhausted is one of the most dangerous things I can think of. PLUR is not something that happens at the rave every weekend. Things are not PLURry or un-PLURry. Responding to a mean post with "plur, dude" is not an adequate retaliation. Peace, Love, Unity, and Respect are abstract concepts that do not rule over the rave every weekend. It is up to each individual to interpret these concepts and assess their value in his/her own life. If you don't understand Paul's humor, then ignore him. He is just a dirty butt-pirate anyway. Rafie On Mon, 10 May 1999 15:30:09 EDT, Barbero420@aol.com wrote... >first off, id like 2 apologize bout my comments towards Paul*E*Wog, it was >wrong and went against my beliefs in PLUR. however, Paul*E*Wog does need 2 >check himself. alot of what he says might b offensive 2 others and doesnt >promote PLUR. > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 20:55:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10405 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 20:55:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 10370 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 20:55:00 -0000 Received: from x15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 20:55:00 -0000 Received: (from elias_smith@juno.com) by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EAAMZGSY; Mon, 10 May 1999 16:54:08 EDT To: ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:11:25 -0700 Subject: Re: Paul*E*Wog Message-ID: <19990421.001127.-135277.0.Elias_Smith@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-9,11-48 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: the town drunk Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Woo-hoo!!! <<-MegaHertZ->> <> http://www.MHz.nu 415-395-8448 We eat candy ravers for breakfast... On Mon, 10 May 1999 13:46:38 "Rafie" writes: >Why does everyone treat "PLUR" as some sort of evil god that we must >all >appease or we will be punished? PLUR isn't fucking Hitler. (side note: >i >want to have a dog and name it Hitler) Parties do not exist solely to > >promote PLUR. And you do not have to live in fear of "ruining the >vibe." >For example, some post said that someone didn't want to stop dancing >because she might hurt the vibe. What the fuck? Continuing to exert >yourself in a hot, humid warehouse when you are exhausted is one of >the >most dangerous things I can think of. > >PLUR is not something that happens at the rave every weekend. Things >are >not PLURry or un-PLURry. Responding to a mean post with "plur, dude" >is not >an adequate retaliation. Peace, Love, Unity, and Respect are abstract > >concepts that do not rule over the rave every weekend. It is up to >each >individual to interpret these concepts and assess their value in >his/her >own life. > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 21:56:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14906 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 21:56:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 14898 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 21:56:50 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 21:56:50 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (535) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJZAa24272 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:55:48 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:55:47 EDT Subject: Re: Rollin' in the park To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk My point was this. I don't knock or condone drug use. But SFR is not the place to brag about doing drugs whether it be at 420 in the after noon or 420 in the morning. ( no pun intended with the 420 euphemism.) Life isn't about drugs, and IMHO it seems that there is a large populous that revolves around drug use. SFR is about information and pertinent topics. Music, events, social issues (which can include drug discussion, but shouldn't include bragging), and etc... Responsibility doesn't lay in PLUR. And all this preaching about PLUR, IMHO is bull shit. You either believe in the values of PLUR because that's who you are or you don't. Not because, at this moment in your life your into the "scene." I read so many posts that are so contradictory. One minute flaming someone or something, then the next saying PLUR. Lend a hand to someone who really needs it outside the "scene" then come and talk to me about PLUR. Values and beliefs are what make us all individuals. Its not about conforming to a single identity. Try and learn what PLUR means to you and believe in it. Not just when your raving either. And to the person who emailed me and said my posts were worthless and he had been waiting for days to email me and tell me so. Unless you can say more than that. Save it for your alter ego. Your a waist of my time. Im not perfect, nor do I claim to be. I just get tired of all the crap that goes on around here. And if I happen to speak up about it then I do. I have received plenty other emails from others on the list who feel the same way. A lot more than the person who emailed me and said my post were worthless. That's all I have to say right now. Ill open my big mouth more later. I have work to do. Peace, M Groove On From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 22:00:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17173 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 22:00:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 17150 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 22:00:24 -0000 Received: from mailhost.onramp.net (199.1.11.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 22:00:24 -0000 Received: from onramp.net (a201-187.ppp.dlls.tx.onramp.net [199.1.154.187]) by mailhost.onramp.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA27121 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:00:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <373756D0.CB7D4ED1@onramp.net> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:59:44 -0500 From: Jennifer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sf-raves Subject: [Fwd: Happiness] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------BA919081BE044EDD57B0AF36" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------BA919081BE044EDD57B0AF36 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------BA919081BE044EDD57B0AF36 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail.nxco.com (mail.nxco.com [207.247.19.162]) by mailhost.onramp.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA08791 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:32:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:31:26 -0500 Subject: Happiness To: jenni4@onramp.net Cc: czelenak@nxco.com From: iceberg@nxco.com (Bryan McWhirt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 If you are receiving this, someone cares about you and humanity in general, please read it carefuly and pass it along to as many people as you can. If you receive multiple copies of this just simply delete the extras, and take it that there are just that many more people out there that care about you and humanity. The more it's distributed the more people will think, and hopefuly it will have an effect. --------------------cut-------------------- There is no humanity left in humanity! Every day we become less human and more dependant on objects and devices. Humanity has lost its concern for love and passion, only to be replaced by lust. Without the desire for emotional comfort our species is lost, and there survives no hope for our continued existence. Love has become a toy we use to get where we want to be, and politics is the but only the means to control others so we can stay there. Without love and compassion for each other we are slowly becoming machines, machines of our own destruction, and only those selfless acts of emotional compassion for others can even begin to save us from our own genocide. Once a long time ago I saw hope, but that flame is dwindling. Now nearly only a spark that I see in the eyes of a limited few, and as the days pass I can see those sparks more and more rapidly becoming ash. Hopelessness in the minds that once could have been the solution to the oppression and depression that stand like a wall before us ready to fall and crush our very souls. When you are asked what your goal is and your heart-felt answer is 'To be successful and take care of my family' you are only contributing to the dehumanization. Your quest for success precedes all others desires, for to be able to take care of your family, in some way you have to be successful in your eyes. This is a selfish though binding you to the materialism that tears at the heart of humanity. Day by day I grow less fond of this world ant it makes me sick to know that I too fall into this dilemma. I look and I look for a way out, and my only hope is in that my quest and desires differ in that I search not for success, money or materialistic things, but for happiness not for myself or for any individual, but for humanity it's self. No one on this planet is perfect but each and every one of us has the ability to spread the happiness, either with a hug, a smile, a kiss or a simple kind jester. Disobey hatred and follow what makes you happy, and show it to others and spread the happiness. Don't keep it to your self for any reason, not because of another's race or age nor appearance or sex, not because of attitude or shortcomings or prior disputes. Share the happiness and it will spread. If every man woman and child would share a single hug with another and put aside all hatred and anger, maybe, just maybe humanity has a chance, but until every politician, every police officer, every military general, every office clerk, every single person learns to put love and compassion above all else we are doomed, and the end is coming very soon. Right now the future looks rather bleak, can we change, do we want to, is humanity lost forever? --------------BA919081BE044EDD57B0AF36-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 22:01:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18804 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 22:01:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 18751 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 22:01:42 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 22:01:42 -0000 Received: from yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.29.227]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA26193; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990510145136.00a116c4@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: case@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:52:37 -0700 To: SpinDazE@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: josh sorkin Subject: Re: get yer CyberFest '99 tix! Cc: fruitcup@hotmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 02:34 PM 5/10/99 EDT, SpinDazE@aol.com wrote: >I really think the Bay Are is becoming the hick version of LA scene. >!MASSIVE!MASSIVE!MASSIVE! > really? with everybody in wild silly costumes with cute clubby names like Sugar Moon Eight? and some of the most bad ass visuals in the world being produced by Hollywood lighting crews on their nights off? lonely windswept desert parties where the stars lie scattered across the inky sky--a curtain of ancient light raining down on your own private ecstatic gathering? let's hope so...because maybe then our beaches will get a whole lot warmer. jonesing for my vitamin D, josh ----------------------------------- "I looked at the engineers and I said, 'All those funny knobs over there, do they do stuff?' They said, 'They do more stuff than you can imagine.' So I said, 'Let's do stuff.'" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 22:13:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25221 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 22:13:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 24650 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 22:12:39 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 22:12:38 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (BayArea56k531.NetWiz.Net [208.164.208.131]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA25326 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:12:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905102212.PAA25326@mail.netwiz.net> To: "San FranDisco Ravers List" Subject: recommendations for sound equipment rental in SF. Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:13:05 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'd like to try out a pair of "active" sound reinforcement speakers for a small gig i'm doing (yet another rave wedding!). I'm looking for, preferably, the new Mackie SRM450's but I guess the big JBL Eon's and the Eon Subwoofer might work too. I also want that and a pair of stable speaker-mounting poles. Anybody have recommendations for a nearby (SF, Oakland) sound rental store? Some place that has good sounding and well maintained equipment, and don't gouge you w/ extra charges or high rental prices?? Thanks in advance. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 22:13:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26710 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 22:13:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 26516 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 22:13:45 -0000 Received: from f139.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 22:13:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 89017 invoked by uid 0); 10 May 1999 22:13:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990510221318.89016.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.255.86.220 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:13:17 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.255.86.220] From: "Natasha 426" To: BigM009@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: SKILLZ daytime (Was: Rollin' in the park) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:13:17 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk BigM009@aol.com wrote: <> Well, BigM.... For some people out there in RaverLand, the trip never ends... lol =) =) But seriously, the Skillz Day party went OFF!! It was just like a rave filled with happy people, only it wasn't dark outside, the air wasn't all smoky and humid, it wasn't too hot to dance, and all the water and FRUIT (kiwi, man!!) were FREE!! :) Oh yeah, great music, too =P hugs, natasha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 22:14:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26883 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 22:13:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 26681 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 22:13:52 -0000 Received: from f233.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.124) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 22:13:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 24622 invoked by uid 0); 10 May 1999 22:13:24 -0000 Message-ID: <19990510221324.24621.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.255.86.220 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:13:24 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.255.86.220] From: "Natasha 426" To: BigM009@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: SKILLZ daytime (Was: Rollin' in the park) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:13:24 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk BigM009@aol.com wrote: <> Well, BigM.... For some people out there in RaverLand, the trip never ends... lol =) =) But seriously, the Skillz Day party went OFF!! It was just like a rave filled with happy people, only it wasn't dark outside, the air wasn't all smoky and humid, it wasn't too hot to dance, and all the water and FRUIT (kiwi, man!!) were FREE!! :) Oh yeah, great music, too =P hugs, natasha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 22:20:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2261 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 22:20:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 2244 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 22:20:08 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 22:20:08 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (4418) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3CHBa03215 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:18:51 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:18:51 EDT Subject: Passions for your genre:pick just one!! To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk AH... I guess i became the tekno diva, not through a love of Tekno, persay, but through a love of electronic music in general. HOW do I decide?? How do I narrow my horizons down to one genre when there is such a vast expanse of electronic beats to tug on my heartstrings?? and it began with TRANCE: That melody, that beat, kiss the sky arms in the air. POUND YOUR FIST. If I was to explain trance to anyone I would say that you close your eyes and FEEL the music because it carries you and as a listener/raver/dancer whatever you have to ride the sound and be one with it. Dancing comes as a knee-jerk reaction after you've learned to feel the music. Your body can't be stopped. Originally I loved goa and all psychedelic trance... (why I wanted to be a dj) Listen to Daniel from Moontribe's "SPIRAL DANCE" tape. Those breakdowns??? Then I got a tape from a very special dj named Rinse. Hardstep jungle. ANd i was again converted. After attending Lara's school of How to dance to Jungle, I became enthralled with jump-up, hip hop, hardstep and techstep. A LOT OF JUMP UP. It's got a different feel that I like to have in the early morning or when I'm sick of lots of bouncy kids. Like jamalski says, "LISTEN! it's dark and it's scary but it's UNITY!" I think my favorite jungle moment was at the first Skills afterparty (what was it called? Green? those kids from CZ threw it in Oakland) and I fell asleep.. when I woke up Rock the FUnky beats had JUST been dropped and even though there were only 200 people there all of a sudden the record went, "SOMEBODY IN THE HOUSE SAY HELL YEAH!!" and every person shot to attention and screamed "HELL YEAH!" I don't know where it came from but cool stuff like that can only happen with jungle. Nothing puts me into a frenzy like that. Then there was HOUSE: My love of moving to the music progressed into a more vocal form of electronic style. Bouncier, less melodic, but still hard and fast, house is my soul right now. Booty house, Some of the progressive stuff... and I don't know... HOUSE HOUSE HOUSe... then there's techno.. and ambient and funky cross-genres and SPEED GARAGE which is really cool if you find some random record, and of course Happy Hardcore!! I can't say much about this except that it is the most beautiful thing in the world, because singing the words to these anthems in a group of kids is amazing. I took two people to their first party and I actually got them in front of a speaker while Paulina taylor was spinning and sang to them. Then after the party I gave them a copy of his tape and they cherished that song. It was amazing. Force and styles "Heart of Gold" at love a fair.. can I say more?? ACK! i'm getting myself excited just talking about all of this. I guess that's why I party.. my passion for the music, and i don't have to get tired because the music goes in cycles and there's always new cross-genres being made... Passion for the music, that's all there is... Look deeply. love strongly. dance hard. hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva "The rythym is around me. The rythym has control. The rythym is inside me. The rythym has my soul." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 22:42:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16576 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 22:42:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 16527 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 22:42:07 -0000 Received: from law2-f195.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.195) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 22:42:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 35826 invoked by uid 0); 10 May 1999 22:41:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19990510224139.35825.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.149.167.15 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:41:39 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.149.167.15] From: "didu hearthat" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: BSP:CO3 at Density...special offer!!! Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:41:39 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey there, Lil Miss MC Angel here. just want to invite all ya'll 21 and over junglists to DENSITY tonight and the special offer is... call 415.273.4649 and get on a super dee duper $3 list!!! wooohoo. just leave your name and friends who you also wanna hook up. CO3 is DJ Rasa, DJ Alexis, MC 3DTea and me (MC Angel) yay! i just joined up with them recently and they moved here from Gainesville, FL at the end of last year. (i can tell you more about us if you want, just e-mail me) Again, it's DENSITY... @ JUSTICE LEAGUE... 628 DIVISADERO @ HAYES...SF. call 415.273.4649 for special $3 invited guest list. :D peace,love and shameless self promo, rashida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 22:52:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23535 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 22:52:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 23520 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 22:52:25 -0000 Received: from f59.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.193) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 22:52:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 86686 invoked by uid 0); 10 May 1999 22:51:58 -0000 Message-ID: <19990510225158.86685.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:51:58 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: (BSP) Tekno-Induced Euphoria Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:51:58 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just thought I would send out a litt BSP saying that I will be playing at UC davis tonight on Doctor Xeno's show for those that like the Tekno groove and you can get that station tune in. see ya, Macadio From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 22:52:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24216 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 22:52:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 24195 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 22:52:42 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 22:52:42 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EAAURQQ4; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:52:14 EDT To: Barbero420@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:53:19 -0700 Subject: Re: Survey Message-ID: <19990510.155618.-157105.6.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 10 May 1999 15:38:15 EDT Barbero420@aol.com writes: >Tryin 2 put together a list of, and 4, all Bay Area Ravers (B.A.R., >hehe), so >please respond 2 this survey: > >Name: Theresa George >Screen name:Da Dope >Age:16 (17 may 31st!!!) >City:San Jose >Quote: It's only kinky tha first time > >PLUR, >BaadBoy420 >(aka Barbero420) > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 22:52:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24221 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 22:52:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 24203 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 22:52:43 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 22:52:43 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EAAURQNH; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:52:14 EDT To: BigM009@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:45:16 -0700 Subject: Re: Passions for your genre: Message-ID: <19990510.155618.-157105.3.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-21 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk While I like house, trance, techno, happy hardcore, etc, jungle is my #1 passion, especially techstep. I worship tha bass. Peace, Theresa On Mon, 10 May 1999 01:37:06 EDT BigM009@aol.com writes: > > >I understand that each person has a passion for thier own genre of >music. >Mine happens to be house. Both Deep and progressive. Throw in a mix >of >trance and Im in heaven. Id like to hear what each person has to say >about >thier passion? Such as all the jungle heads, trance babys and so >forth. > >Peace, M > >Groove On > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 10 23:21:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19906 invoked by uid 6000); 10 May 1999 23:21:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 19727 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 23:21:08 -0000 Received: from falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.74) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 23:21:07 -0000 Received: from [209.179.147.158] (pool408-cvx.ds51-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.147.158]) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04580 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 16:21:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: radley@mail.elemental.nu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:21:45 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Radley Marx Subject: skills party - thinly vieled apologies Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk (I was going to go off and say what a great party this weekend was for all of us, but then I made the fatal error of reading the reviews first. And after a short consideration, i decided to fall back on my favorite form of low humor - sarcasm! So without futher interruption...) To everyone in the bay area I would like to condone my deepest apologies to= everyone who came out for the travesty and tragic event this fateful= weekend past, beknown to the plethera of idle ravers as "Skills." We had hoped that the day might be less sunny, and the music so much more= old-school. We had hoped that nobody would know about the party let alone= show up. We had hoped to keep this a deep dark secret from the rest of the= world. We had hoped that the tourists would misunderstand what we were= doing and pay admission to watch us dance. But alas, it was not to be! All these *grrr* ravers showed up and danced right in front of the speakers= so that noone could see the immortal DJs <*wink!*> playing their well= crafted sets. The music was a little too soft and easy, way too appropriate= for a lazy Saturday. Good thing it wasn't too good, becauase the dance area= way already too full and too much dust was flying high in the air. We forgot our manners and didn't try to control all those bad little kiddies= from doing what they wanted to do. I kinda lost my senses myself. A little= high off the energy. I promise not to do THAT ever again. And BTW: stay out of the trees! It almost looked fun up there, and nobody= would help ME get up there! :p *sigh* nope. I just can't do it. No matter how hard I try to be hard & sarcastic I can't do it... I had a BLAST Saturday! It's been years since I've been to anything like this. I haven't attended= every single party that's ever existed, so I'm sure I don't know about all= the other great park events before. But this one was THE one RIGHT NOW, for= all of us, and it will hold great memories of of a spectacular day. Raves in the park are like this. Sunset parties are like this and if they're= not anymore, then they used to be. I've done the rave-in-the-park thing for= years back in San Diego, but they were never on a scale like this. And this= wasn't meant to be a regular happening. This was a rare treat without a= doubt. I'm thankful for that. This project was a lot of work, but it was very promising. We had fun. SF is= coming together even more. This is only a small part of the big picture.= Remember that. And please remember this most of all: it's our park too.= Enjoy it. Picture for a moment what the day would have been like if we= weren't there at all... =3D-) I would really like to say thanks to eveyone who helped throughout the= party, especially the many humble people who each graciously took a= trash-bag and helped fill them up with the mess. By the time the party was= over the mess was already gone and nobody else noticed. Big cudos to the non-ravers who never even heard of SFraves or Skills (or= even raves) but stood nearby and watched and enjoyed! Next time all you= PLURy ravers: invite any of them in to the front. THAT would be fun to see! Sorry for all the drugs at the party. I didn't see them myself (really), but= if you did had a problem with this stuff then next time do something about= it. All you gotta do is walk up to the malfesants and say "hey, have some= respect" and maybe you'll get it. In contrast: I'm just thankful we didn't= have the big federal drug-nazi bust problem that I've seen in past daylight= events. And no ODs. (pause) So HEY! It looks like we got away with it at least ONCE! Thanks for being th= ere! Maybe again at the end of the summer? We'll see after A Starry Night in June! ciao! -radley From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 00:33:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10776 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 00:33:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 10608 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 00:33:17 -0000 Received: from mail-gw2.pacbell.net (206.13.28.53) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 00:33:17 -0000 Received: from pacbell.net (ppp-209-79-196-136.scrm01.pacbell.net [209.79.196.136]) by mail-gw2.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with ESMTP id RAA10708; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:33:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3736D22D.909DE8EF@pacbell.net> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 05:33:53 -0700 From: dr_XeNo Organization: KDVS DJ/USDAFS Genetics Lab Asst. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-PBI-NC404 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The Davis Family , SacRaves , SFRaves CC: BlueGlue , Macadio Gaines Subject: BSP: *TeK-IndUced EuPHoriA* f. Macadio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 'Lo there, peeps! I gotta spin tha skoop fer tha show tonite, so here it comes! Macadio n I finally managed ta match schedules, so the man wit' tha tekkno soundz is gonna be droppin' it tonite....lotsa tekkie stuff wit' the endless beatz....stay tuned in! We'll be giving the word on First Light's 1 yr as well some tix ta give away, after mack-audio's set....hope to hear u call in! Take care, and njoi tha show..... _*TeK-IndUced EuPHoriA*_ !First Light Collective Show! Featuring: Macadio/First Light/Warmth TiX Giveaways: First Light One Year/First Light Collective 415.646.0763 As usual, I'll be online during tha whole show in tha #sfraves room on IRC, checking me email, and on AOhelL's IM as drXeNo6, not including dr_XeNo6 on Yahoo! Pager. ;-) Or, try me on ICQ #18463830. Be sure ta call in n say wazzup! U kidz take care........ :-) -- <<>> 90.3FM KDVS, Davis dr_XeNo@pacbell.net IM= drXeNo6 ICQ= #18463830 http://drxeno.cjb.net/ 90.3FM KDVS, Davis -----\/ Every Other Mon Nite, 10-Midnite: _*TeK-IndUced EuPHoriA*_ Listen On RealAudio and See Tha Calendar @ ------\/ http://tek.cjb.net/ <<<<<>>>>> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 00:35:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12166 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 00:35:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 12157 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 00:35:33 -0000 Received: from f308.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.221) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 00:35:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 19156 invoked by uid 0); 11 May 1999 00:35:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990511003505.19155.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 153.37.7.127 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:35:04 PDT X-Originating-IP: [153.37.7.127] From: "Natasha 426" To: Speedex33@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: VORG? Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:35:04 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Were you at the same VORG party that I was at?? Not to bash on vorg or anything, but that party was WAY crowded and the decorations were severely lacking =( the only redeeming factor here was that the music (esp. in the side room w/ the green laser) was _really_ good...i just wish it wasn't so gross and sticky inside. I had fun w/ the ppl I went with, but i'm sorry to say that i've (finally) reached my limit as far as 2/jax parties goes.... with a lineup like Vorg had, I guess I was expecting decorations akin to Harmony's festival of flowers and now I know that was expecting the impossible LOL Anyway, it was a fun night, but definitely *not* because I partied in a cool, well-lit warehouse with lots of room to dance But then again, after spending the day @ Skillz outside in the sunshine, perhaps I was already spoiled by the time I made it to Jax. fun weekend overall, tho - Rhythm Method on Friday was so much fun! (my first time there) What a great little space for a party! thank goodness my Monday is finally over :) hugs, natasha => Speedex33@aol.com wrote: << I just wanted to say that VORG last night was sooo fun. The lights and lasers were ausome in all three rooms, all the music was tight and it didn't even seem to be overcrowded like usual. .......>> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 00:39:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15174 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 00:39:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 15147 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 00:39:36 -0000 Received: from dogbert.ucdavis.edu (root@169.237.105.34) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 00:39:36 -0000 Received: from localhost (ez053642@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogbert.ucdavis.edu (8.9.3/UCD3.13.10) with ESMTP id RAA00457 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:39:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:39:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Terri Young X-Sender: ez053642@dogbert.ucdavis.edu To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Silvia's Party Review!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You may know her...Silvia the German Gurl ;) Well, Silvia has us over for Whole Earth Festival afterparty and DAMN!!! This is why raving is still cool. Whole Earth Fest is generally a kickass weekend up here in Davis. It is one of my favorite weekends out of the whole year. The vibe is already here, all around us, started by the daytime festival!!! The party can only contine up tha positive after hanging out around drum circles and bellydancers all day. I am convinced we should have daytime festivals more often and have more afterparties that start at 9 pm. hee hee People were bumpin hard in that place (and outside too!) and we were screaming, we had the Wave of vibe sweeping over us as one big pot of dancers. God, I left early cuz I had been sick all week, but all my friends said this continued all night!!! (Until 4 am or something) Incredible. I want to say my girl DragNfly kicked major ass...MY WOMAN is going places and DAMN is she good!! And from what I hear MOOK's SET WAS INCREDIBLE!! yay Mook!! You really got them kids geared up!!! You are legendary up here now ;) And to Silvia - thanks honey!! I haven't had that much fun in a while! Much love, ~buglady~ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 00:44:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18346 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 00:44:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 18335 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 00:44:04 -0000 Received: from f148.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.27) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 00:44:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 75051 invoked by uid 0); 11 May 1999 00:43:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990511004336.75050.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 153.37.7.127 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:43:36 PDT X-Originating-IP: [153.37.7.127] From: "Eliza B." To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Anyone going to ethereal? Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:43:36 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hay i was looking on the sfr calendar and it looks like i'll be at Ethereal this friday!....Anyone going? lineup looks good, and it's pretty cheap =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 00:47:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20225 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 00:47:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 20217 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 00:47:12 -0000 Received: from mail9.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 00:47:12 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (98AEF128.ipt.aol.com [152.174.241.40]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA12656; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:47:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37377E7B.318880D8@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:48:59 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Minh Q. Le" CC: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, Sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: What raving means (on the navysatan tip) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Damn... i guess! Shit... I have nothing to say in her defense. She does give good candy head though! =Paul*E*Wog "Minh Q. Le" wrote: > > On Fri, 7 May 1999 TeKnODiVa@aol.com wrote: > > > > I think what scares me most about new people coming in and taking over > > the scene is that they just don't get it. For me it was always about being > > happy, at a party or anywhere else... I'm constantly full of energy and love > > and I don't think that's fake at all. It's who I am.. I don't need to take > > --> Pffft !!! Fake, Fake, Fake, Fake, Fake, Fake, Fake ... Gurlfrend, > you're so fake your fake fur pants are more genuine than you are. Get a > grip and realize that no matter how much glitter and color and wigs you > put on yourself, you're still the same 'ole plastic 16 year old inside. > > > > > Grr.. this is about the time I loose my point, reread the letter and > > realize I've been rambling..... > > --> Well duh! Maybe you should stop taking those bong hits so often, it > might improve your higher mental skills...like memory. > > > WEll.. maybe I don't know what I'm trying to say. I've been called a fake > > person before and I think that hurts more than anything anyone has ever said > > to me. > > --> Oh rite...the "teknodiva" has "feelings." You're not a true diva in > any sense of the word...true divas have no feelings foolz... besides, it > all fits in, you're fake down to your SFR identity; if you were blond your > roots would have roots cuz you're so fake. > > > Raving shouldn't be about people just being nice to everyone, but it > > shouldn't be about being a bitch either. What you should do is know who you > > are and stay true to that no matter what. Even if it means you're not doing > > what other people think you should be to be fitting in. Especially in the > > scene. > > -->This from somebody who is a KandEkid? Oh puhleez, I suggest you ask > your high school English teacher on the finer points of irony. You are > such an attention whore you might as well just walk around a party with > pom-poms miss popularity. I wonder how many of your "friends" are actual > nobodys in the scene...hmmm? I suppose if they aren't on the inside > track, you aren't interested; wait, wouldn't that make you a ... > groupie? I'm sorry dahlink... one does not cultivate fabulousness through > association. Make yourself interesting first before even attempting such > heights, cuz at this level luv, you might as well just be fake... whoops, > you got that down already huh? > > > > Maybe not everyone is as naturally high on life as me, but at least stay > > real. People will respect you more for it in the long run. I think it would > > really make me unconfortable if someone didn't like me and was like, "OH hi, > > sweetie, I love you you look great," just because they felt obligated. > > I have points, I have lot to say, but thoughts aren't forming really well > > right now and I'm going to bed. > > -->Do you really know what's real Patrice or is that your parent's credit > card in your hand? Oh no cupcake...I don't feel obligated at all, in fact, > I would much rather ask you whom you stole that look from? I am glad to > know that you still are able to fit thoughts into that cute little head of > yours, lord knows how difficult it is to do that while keeping track of > all your tickle-me Elmo dolls. Yes, let's do stay real, but before I > leave, I've been meaning to tell you... pink really doesn't become you, > that wig you wore at the Happy Kid's Halloween made you look ghastly. At > least nobody else knows about it ... er, wait; didn't somebody take a > picture of you in that wig and plaster it all over a fag magazine? Touche > mon Ami ... that's what friends are for eh? > > :) > Evil M&m From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 00:48:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21153 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 00:48:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 21144 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 00:48:54 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 00:48:54 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (7989) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vIOFa10989 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 20:47:46 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <8163ecb8.2468d831@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 20:47:45 EDT Subject: Re: Waiting for the emergence of 2 separate scenes To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i think what all the people who are worried about the newbies who "don't know what it's all about" and aren't going to offer anything to the scene etc etc( basically everthing that has been said about the new kids) need to just keep in mind and cling to if necessary, is that it is just a FAD! i have seen people from my school going to raves and they just stand there, not talking to anyone, not dancing. they will get sick of it soon cuz it is a TREND. it will die off.and those that don't get sick of it, probably will end up adding to the scene. just keep that in mind. alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 01:09:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4030 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 01:09:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 4019 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 01:09:29 -0000 Received: from mail9.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 01:09:29 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (98AEF128.ipt.aol.com [152.174.241.40]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01233 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <373783B6.61BDACA0@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:11:18 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Passions for your genre: HARDCORE!!!! References: <19990510063139.20837.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk STRiCTLY DA MUTHA FUCKiNG HARDCORE!!!!! Thank you thank you... you know who you are and you know you are all silently plotting to destroy and abolish the evil trance lords!!! Hardcore will be the great divider of the strong and the weak. Only the strong will survive... If you can't do the dance of 300 BPM then you will suffer. Gabber will rule all melodic trance will be enslaved and the world will be as it was meant to me... HARD MUTHA FUCKING CORE!!! Patience is a virtue... wait until the time is ripe to strike! Then BaM! down with trance!!!! fuck dat house shit! It's time to stop grooving and start dancing for reals. Can you hang? Or will you be left tire and drained? All slow ass bitches need NOT apply. Recruiting only the fast, strong, bold, and loud... =Paul*E*Wog P.S. Armageddon has arrived with hardcore in her heart... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 01:10:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4766 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 01:10:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 4751 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 01:10:03 -0000 Received: from mail9.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 01:10:03 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (98AEF128.ipt.aol.com [152.174.241.40]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01720; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:09:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <373780BE.F1BDE0DE@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:58:38 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com CC: Sfraves@hyperreal.org, TeKnODiVa@aol.com Subject: Re: Waiting for the emergence of 2 separate scenes References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Dude!!! For reals. I for one would like to say something serious. I HATE... HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE raves. Every time some e-traded candy trash bitch comes up and tries to hug me i feel like pushing them on the floor and ripping those nasty beads off their neck. I hate ravers. I hate raves. They are a waste of time. There are better things to do in life besides ecstacy. I really wish i had never gone. I am regretting that day very much now. I hate CYBER TRANCE!!!!! And the party at Skills just reminded me how ugly our sf scene is. It's disgusting. Its gross. It needs to be hosed down. Those kids are gross, sweaty, can't coordinate their clothes. And they are overly tacky. It makes me sick to think that promoters would welcome this kind of trash into their venue? What happened to invite only parities??? Where is the UG? I am going to throw my own party and handpick the people i want to be there from the crowd. I hate ravers. They suck!!!! I hate ravers... This is not sarcasm. This is serious. I despise this scene and what it has become. It's nothing but a farm of kids on drugs. Make me feel gross to be apart of this. I want out!!! =Paul*E*Wog BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 5/8/99 9:52:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, TeKnODiVa@aol.com > writes: > > << I'm interested to see where this new wave of people > takes us. Until then I'll be in grumpy raver mode! >> > > More than a handful of people in our scene feel exactly like this right > now...and to be honest, this summer is going to be even worse. There have > been so many kids at my school who have been hearing about "raves" and now > all they wanna do is go to take drugs and get on as many people as possible, > without any regard for the music or respect for the scene. These kids are > very wealthy and will have no problem paying for the parties and the drugs, > which means that they will be providing the promoters with MAJOR cash > flow...I'm not saying that I am never going to a massive again, because > massives bring in some really talented dj's, but I have been very selective > with the parties I have chosen to go to lately and I will continue to do so. > >From all this hype with big parties and other people sharing the same > feelings, I hope to see a surge in the ug scene... > > -=~*LaUrE@*~=- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 01:16:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8376 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 01:16:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 8222 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 01:16:33 -0000 Received: from mail9.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 01:16:33 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (98AEF128.ipt.aol.com [152.174.241.40]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA06925 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3737855B.806F05BE@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:18:19 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: Tuinei Reportedly Injected Heroin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Tuinei Reportedly Injected Heroin .c The Associated Press By C. BRYSON HULL McKINNEY, Texas (AP) -- Former Dallas Cowboys star Mark Tuinei injected heroin and used the drug Ecstasy the night before he died, one of the team's players told police in a court document. The document, which investigators filed to get a warrant to search Tuinei's house, contains information from Cowboys running back Nicky Sualua, who said he spent Wednesday evening with Tuinei in a Dallas apartment. ``When Mark came back to the living room, he looked as if he was passing out. Nicky advised (that) Mark started having problems and stopped breathing,'' the affidavit said. Sualua said Tuinei was alive when he dragged the 6-foot-5, 320-pound ex-offensive lineman from the apartment to his car. Sualua then drove to Tuinei's house in Plano, suburban Dallas. Sualua got two blankets from the house and slept in the car with Tuinei until about 5:30 a.m. Thursday, he told police. ``When Nicky woke up, Mark was not breathing,'' the document said. In a 911 tape released Friday, a man identified as ``Nicky'' told the dispatcher that his friend had stopped breathing. ``I can't feel a pulse,'' he said. The 39-year-old Tuinei was pronounced dead at the hospital. The preliminary autopsy report was inconclusive and further toxicology tests were expected Tuesday. Tuinei's death and Sualua's report of drug use were just the latest blows to the Cowboys, whose image has been tarnished by a series of court cases and off-the-field problems in the last few years. In addition to heroin, Sualua said Tuinei had used Ecstasy, a hybrid of the hallucinogen mescaline and the stimulant amphetamine, at Tuinei's house earlier Wednesday evening, according to the document filed with Collin County Court-at-Law Judge Mark Rusch, who issued the search warrant. McKinney is the Collin County seat. Police seized marijuana pipes, a marijuana cigarette, a white tablet, a cell phone and papers with phone numbers from Tuinei's house, according to an inventory attached to the affidavit, details of which were first reported by TV station KDFW. Police sought a search warrant because Tuinei's wife, Pono, was in their home state of Hawaii. The couple planned to move there so Tuinei could be an assistant football coach at his old high school. Tuinei played 15 seasons for the Cowboys before retiring in 1998 and was a key player on three Super Bowl championship teams. Cowboys spokesman Rich Dalrymple and NFL spokesman Greg Aiello declined to comment on Sualua's situation. Under NFL rules, players involved in drug-related violations of the law can be disciplined. Tuinei was arrested a number of times in college for drunken brawling and he admitted to mixing alcohol with marijuana when he was young. In 1993, he told The Dallas Morning News that he could not say he had turned his life around. ``It's a day-to-day, year-to-year battle,'' he said. ``I know that I'm always going to run into trouble of some kind. I just need to make sure I handle it.'' Among other cases that have tarnished the Cowboys' image, All-Pro receiver Michael Irvin was suspended by the NFL in 1996 after a cocaine charge, and then-coach Barry Switzer was arrested in 1997 for taking a gun to Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport. In between, several other Cowboys faced drug- or alcohol-related league suspensions. Last year, there was a mysterious training-camp scuffle in which lineman Everett McIver was stabbed in the neck with scissors by another player, reportedly Irvin. Also, Pro Bowl defensive tackle Leon Lett has failed an NFL drug test for the third time, league sources said. The violation could carry a lifetime ban. AP-NY-05-10-99 1828EDT Copyright 1998 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without prior written authority of The Associated Press. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 01:38:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20380 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 01:38:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 20365 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 01:38:32 -0000 Received: from dilbert.ucdavis.edu (root@169.237.105.33) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 01:38:32 -0000 Received: from localhost (sschumac@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dilbert.ucdavis.edu (8.9.3/UCD3.13.10) with ESMTP id SAA28354; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:38:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Silvia Schumacher X-Sender: sschumac@dilbert.ucdavis.edu To: Terri Young cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Silvia's Party Review!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey Terri, :))) heyhey, a review of my party on sfraves, ups, stop flattering me... :))) But yeah your woman Dina aka Drag'nfly is damn good!!! Kicking everybody's ass already at our renowned Thursday gathering and again at my party... We all love her up here in Davis... :))) And Mook, oh my God, the people who told you are right, he played an incredible set. I will never forget the scene of people raving in my house's dining room. People were going crazy!!! All I remember was that people were continuously yelling "ecstacy" and dancing as hard as they could. Thank you Mook and Steph for coming all the way up here and rocking my house!!! I hope you enjoyed your time at my party as I did. But BTW I also want to give out shouts to all the DJ's who people might know or not know: DJ'S OF THE OUTDOORS HOUSE ARENA: -groovy JEREMY -special guest JOSH -sweetheart BRIAN -and Davis-allstar JEYSON They were rocking the crowd continously and giving the peeps outside the funkiest, grooviest and sexiest house you can imagine. DJ'S OF THE TRANCING OUT DINING ROOM (besides the already mentioned talents of DRAG'NFLY and MOOK): -amazing HOJAB (spinning the lovliest melodic cyber) -special guest PAT (spinning the newest nu-nrg from Germany) -Davis-allstar BENOIT (spinning the most incredible psy-trance) -and JOE (spinning progressive trance with acid flavor) I didn't expect that this party was going to be one of the most incredible I had during my unfortunately limited time here, but DJ's and all the people who created that awesome vibe made this happen. Thanks to everybody who was there!!! I love you all, Silvia From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 01:58:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3078 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 01:58:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 3063 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 01:58:50 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 01:58:50 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com (3928) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vUERa26068 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 21:56:06 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: <21b0c0f5.2468e7f5@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 21:55:01 EDT Subject: Re: Passions for your genre:Jungle To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I could NOT have said it any better than that! <3 Amber R. (i can get into trance though too.. hehehe...(:< hehehe) In a message dated 99-05-10 03:49:32 EDT, you write: << All I can say is, "More bass, PLEASE!!!". I love how the bass in jungle / d&b is its own instrument that can be played many different ways. You also have the breakbeat that keeps your head bobbing hella fast or your feet shuffling and skippin forever. My little interpretation: The breaks are the bus stops, were everybody gets off the ride, takes a breath, and actually opens up their eyes to see who they've been bumping into during the ride. While waiting for the ride, the bus stop has some elevator music that you can chill to. But when the next ride is on its way, everybody at the bus stop is ready, until... da,da,da,da,da,da,da,... KABOOM!!! The beat drops like a motherfucker!!! Breakbeat flying all over the damn place, the bass pushing you harder and harder up and down all around the room... If you're lucky enough to have a tour guide (M.C.) then the ride is even better!!! We junglists are just constantly on a journey, taking one bus after another, being taken one crazy ride after another... (A roller coaster that we can't get off!!!) "What do you call that kind of music?" "Jungle." "That shit is fuckin tight!!!" Rommel >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 02:42:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17074 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 02:42:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 17026 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 02:42:31 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 02:42:31 -0000 Received: from Tekno313@aol.com (319) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3YMOa04195 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 22:39:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Tekno313@aol.com Message-ID: <9d696bcd.2468f255@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 22:39:17 EDT Subject: **(jl.bsp)Justiceleague.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Now on the JL.com site: Paperclip People live @ Fever, recorded 1.15.99. We've finally got that up in Real Audio G2 format for your listening pleasure. Check it out now; it will be up for a limited time. You can also(as always) check out past Fever sets by David Alvarado, Simon(diy), Mark e. Quark, and Corey Black among others. http://www.justiceleague.com J to the L, babay! monty From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 04:48:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12198 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 04:48:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 11779 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 04:48:12 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 04:48:11 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (14420) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vCFHa03058; Tue, 11 May 1999 00:46:59 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 00:46:58 EDT Subject: Re: here is a Riddle c if ya can figure it out To: Fine19boy@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk nope From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 05:16:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25200 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 05:16:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 25064 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 05:16:55 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 05:16:55 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (14420) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iNTDa27692; Tue, 11 May 1999 00:52:17 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <57b1c4c7.24691181@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 00:52:17 EDT Subject: Re: here is a Riddle c if ya can figure it out To: wil_hanno@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/10/99 9:24:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, wil_hanno@hotmail.com writes: << history? >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 05:22:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27921 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 05:22:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 27913 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 05:22:40 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 05:22:40 -0000 Received: from Squisheart@aol.com (7982) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNSYa06455; Tue, 11 May 1999 01:21:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Squisheart@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 01:21:42 EDT Subject: Re: Survey To: Barbero420@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/10/99 12:39:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Barbero420@aol.com writes: << Tryin 2 put together a list of, and 4, all Bay Area Ravers (B.A.R., hehe), so please respond 2 this survey: Name: Katherine Screen name: Squisheart Age:20 City:Sunnyvale Quote:keep it real! PLUR, K8 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 05:29:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 505 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 05:29:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 487 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 05:29:40 -0000 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (140.142.33.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 05:29:40 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id WAA17652; Mon, 10 May 1999 22:29:38 -0700 Message-ID: <03f801be9b6f$6077ed60$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: , Subject: Re: [NWR] marbletop (was: Udistrict weekend thingy(?)) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 22:30:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Check out http://transit.metrokc.gov/ or call Metro at 553-3000 for ride info, they are pretty nice. Peace, Alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- She wants a good life, No man to cause her pain and strife. -=- Cocoa Tea From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 05:33:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1564 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 05:33:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 1554 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 05:33:04 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 05:33:04 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (14420) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id dEXWa04194; Tue, 11 May 1999 01:31:45 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <1ba1bac8.24691ac0@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 01:31:44 EDT Subject: Re: here is a Riddle c if ya can figure it out To: awallace@u.washington.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/10/99 10:24:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, awallace@u.washington.edu writes: << ahahaha what is it?!??!?! it's driving me nutso!!!! i guess i have to wait,... of course, if you were to tell me i promise i would keep my mouth clamped... peace, alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm >> Nope not going to tell ya YET keep em Guesses comin' From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 06:19:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20133 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 06:19:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 20071 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 06:19:01 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd110.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.174) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 06:19:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 45749 invoked by uid 0); 11 May 1999 06:19:16 -0000 Message-ID: <19990511061916.45748.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.211.93.220 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 May 1999 23:19:16 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.211.93.220] From: "Stacey Alliam" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR: A KEWL SITE 4 U ALL Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 23:19:16 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk visit http://www.slambook.com/slambooks/viewsb.asp?sb=keara its kinda kewl... plur out, kimmy. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 06:21:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21461 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 06:21:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 21302 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 06:21:10 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 06:21:10 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (586) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vKHFa27693 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 02:20:37 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 02:20:36 EDT Subject: Daily motivation To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Its always so strange when I get these. We just got off the phone and were talking about how you shouldnt be afraid to take risks. And then I check my email and get this. There is no growth without effort. I love these. Hope you do to. Talk with you soon. Peace, M YOUR DAILY MOTIVATION Tuesday, May 11, 1999 THERE IS NO GROWTH WITHOUT EFFORT. ------------------------------------- You grow by responding positively to change. Growth means change and change involves risk when stepping from the known to the unknown. Your strength and growth will come only through continuous effort and struggle. All growth depends on activity. There is no development without effort. Trouble is the common denominator of living. It is the great equalizer. Your trials, your sorrows and your grief's will develop you. Whatever good or bad fortune comes your way, you can always give it meaning and transform it into something of value. Wealth is nothing, position is nothing, fame is nothing. Who you become inside is everything. What happens is not as important as how you react to what happens. ------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 06:24:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24519 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 06:24:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 24509 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 06:24:12 -0000 Received: from www.concourse.net (HELO mail.concourse.net) (209.63.66.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 06:24:12 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (209.63.66.49) by mail.concourse.net with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Mon, 10 May 1999 22:28:41 -0800 Message-ID: <3737CC80.5601FCA5@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 23:21:52 -0700 From: Paul Sober X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SF Raves Subject: Re: Silvia's Party Review!! an stuff [long] References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk heck ya. that was a great night. that trance room was about as big as my bedroom, and it was wall to wall dancing people. it was amazing. total strangers dancing all over bumping into each other, and it not mattering cause the music was too powerful. thanks silvia, thanks dina, thanks pat, thanks benoit i guess (thanks silvia for the lineup. :) I'm so glad i got to meet you, and i'm sorry to see you leave, but i know you'll do well wherever you go.) thanks andrew and todd for inviting me, (this party did have an INCREDIBLE vibe), oh yeah, and thanks silvia for opening up her home to us all, friends and strangers. that was great, i'm actually a little sad that i left to go to subsonic later in the night, which leads tooooo. . . subsonic's makeup party was a work of art. simon apex and dna really taught me what happy hardcore is, i'm not saying it's my favorite or anything, but they sent shivers down my spine like you wouldn't believe and made me dance like a crazed loonatic and that was After dina and the others made me dance from 9ish-1ish, sheesh, i'm still sore. thank gawd for ibuprofen. sheesh, here i go again, thanks mr. apex, thanks dna, thanks amberger, thanks jessibunnikers, thanks hk ian, thanks all you sweaty dancing sacramento/davis partiers, what a kick ass weekend, and the total for party entrance was 5$. this really could turn into a novel-ish post if i don't watch out, see, this brings me to another place, the commercialization of our scene, the old skool/new skool debate, the ever present 'i hate 2nd and jackson' debate, the 'there's too many damn kids enjoying the music that i found first.' crisis, and last but not least, where are we headed? ok, we are a part of society, which is made up of individuals, you are one of those individuals, you are the society, you ARE the scene, if you want something to happen, YOU must make it happen. If you want a kick ass party with an awesome vibe with kick ass music, then you must be a part of making it a reality. you must supply awesome music, or a place to play, or a sound system, or something, this stuff takes work. it doesn't just happen. if you want there to be less e'tards and more cool kids absorbed in the moment, then you must teach the new ones. if you want a cooler location then you need to provide one or more realistically for most of you, look for a new place, talk the owner into letting you use it, and find out what's involved with permits and such, there's plenty of knowledgeable people available, you just have to ask. this philosophy applies to many of the discussions i've seen on here lately. there's just too many people complaining about shit, and i'm willing to bet that the complainers aren't doing anything about it. it's not the nature of a 'doer' to bitch and moan about things going wrong. also, 'our' scene is definitely becoming commercialized. i don't believe it's a trend that will go away soon. i see larger and larger parties. i see many scary things in our future. i see more movies about ravers, i see better music, more spectacular events, because this is where the money is. i also know that the small, incredible party will always rule supreme, there have always been small parties and there will always be small parties, this is life, this is how we live, whether we've got a live rock band playing the latest buddy holly tunes, or we're listenning to fresh disco records, this is how it has always been. this is where energy for change has always come from and it is always capitalized on by the corporations and the media. ok, so i doubt anyone actually read all the way through that, if you did, then i'm sorry i wasn't more succinct. i offer a copy of my mix cd in atonement, whenever i get my computer fully operational and make one i feel is sufficient to distribute to friends and neighbors. just email me with your address and i'll add it to my list. it's trance/techno stuff, i've already typed too much so i won't explain, but it takes me away. maybe it can do the same for you. paul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 06:24:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25206 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 06:24:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 25113 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 06:24:27 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 06:24:27 -0000 Received: from AlexG1029@aol.com (14452) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vRMUa17023 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 02:23:52 -0400 (EDT) From: AlexG1029@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 02:23:51 EDT Subject: about Paul*E*Wog's comments on the scene To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk okey i know that Paul is the king of sarcasm but as much as i tried to look for some in this last post i couldnt find any are u seriously serious Paul? cuz if u are then i suggest u look again this scene is what YOU make of it im not talkin about everybody else im talkin about YOU and what u make of the scene for urslef while i agree that some people are using this scene in the stupidest way possible and destroyin it for everybody else it doesnt mean that everybody is like that the sf scene is a really beautiful thing if u look deep inside it example? just 2 weeks ago when Hi! got broken up some 40-50 kids went lookin for a free party that was goin on somewhere around daly city on the beach we didnt find it....guess what we did? we just sat on the beach around a fire we formed a tight circle to keep each other warm and just talked and chilled for the rest of the nite people who mostly didnt even know each other were best friends for the nite the strongest of us hung around to watch the sun go up....it was beautiful! thats where the real meanin of this scene is: in unity yes half of the people there were on drugs but if drugs are what it takes to achieve unity then hell im down with em only i dont think that drugs are what it takes....its people people who have been touched by the unity and opened up to it drugs are only there for the fun which all of us love to have and yes some people abuse drugs and give our scene a bad name but they shouldnt bother u unless u have the same drug problem....is that the case Paul? would u rather have an e-tarded "candy-ass" come up to u and give u a hug or some gangster stab u in the back? if all this scene does for u is disgust u with its 2nd/jackson dirty floors and un-color-coordinated candy kids and the drugs then u really should be out of it....but maybe u should try to see past all that and find the real meanin: unity and love for ur each other isnt that what the world leaders say theyre thrivin towards? only they think theyll achieve it by droppin bombs on each others heads well mr HARDCORE if u wanna join them and be out of the scene ur more then welcome to....the scene will only benefit from it but u either get out or be in and dont pretend like ur in and say things like u did on the background PeAcE OuT alEx =.) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 06:26:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26472 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 06:26:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 26456 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 06:26:33 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 06:26:33 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (586) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLIZa17022 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 02:25:24 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <21b26d32.24692753@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 02:25:23 EDT Subject: Sorry everyone, Daily motivation To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That was a private email. Sorry everyone. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 06:50:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6606 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 06:50:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 6597 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 06:50:35 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 06:50:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19990511064359.5508.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.86.220.227] by attach1; Mon, 10 May 1999 23:43:59 PDT Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 23:43:59 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: oh gosh check out this RA To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk http://vixen.simplenet.com/dark/music.htm LTJ Bukem from '92, Hype from '94... Reminds you of what it used to be. -Science From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 07:09:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11280 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 07:09:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 11272 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 07:09:43 -0000 Received: from web213.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.113) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 07:09:43 -0000 Message-ID: <19990511070933.14659.rocketmail@web213.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.24.164.30] by web213.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 11 May 1999 00:09:33 PDT Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 00:09:33 -0700 (PDT) From: tHe AcCoMplICe Subject: Re: NRR: Macs vs PCs To: Max McCauley Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeeeaaaahhhh!! Fuck PC's...Mac to the very end!! If they only knew Max.. wise words.. chris --- Max McCauley wrote: > > Not this past weekend but the weekend before that I > had the chance for the > first time in my life to fly somewhere and say silly > things somewhere > to "faster internet." > > Some of that makes no sense to me, but I am > imagining a cute Quebecois > girl writing it, and I am peeing in my pants > laughing, thusly. > > 10-4, > duh, > max > > > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 07:14:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12769 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 07:14:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 12758 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 07:14:01 -0000 Received: from dummy.sirius.com (HELO phat.r8x.net) (root@207.44.194.129) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 07:14:01 -0000 Received: from x-radio.com (toker [192.168.1.19]) by phat.r8x.net (8.8.5/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA15180 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 00:13:54 -0700 Message-ID: <3737D8CA.E214B591@x-radio.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 00:14:18 -0700 From: "W. P. Risenhoover" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: BSP: X-RADIO.COM in Knowledge Magazine! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >From the "News" section in this issue of Knowledge Magazine (www.knowledgemag.co.uk) > X-Radio > > As technology has taken a firm grasp on music production this decade, > so in recent years has it also gradually affected the way we actually > buy the stuff. There are many internet music retail sites on the web, > and San Francisco based X-Radio is one of the very best. For the > second time in a row they have been ranked in the top three 'Buyer's > Best Merchant' by Bizrate, the leader in monitoring online customer > satisfaction, even outperforming giants like CD Now and Tower Records. > This isn't an industry poll either, for Bizrate product manager, > Suzette Henry, adds that 'people should understand that this isn't our > ranking as such - it's completely based on feedback from actual > customers. Since early '97, X-Radio has served as an independent, > fully-integrated interactive music catalogue and internet jukebox, and > through combining reviews, retail and live audio programming, they > have become an internet institution in the realms of electronic dance > music. With 1.2 million raw hits a month, they must be doing something > right. Check out the site at www.x-radio.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 07:57:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24264 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 07:57:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 24253 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 07:57:45 -0000 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 07:57:45 -0000 Received: from [209.157.52.108] (dynamic44.pm02.east-bay.best.com [209.157.52.108]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id AAA14907; Tue, 11 May 1999 00:57:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: sftrance@shell18.ba.best.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <11ff84b0.2467ca82@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 00:58:21 -0700 To: BigM009@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: MODA Subject: Re: Passions for your genre: Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 1:37 AM -0400 5/10/99, BigM009@aol.com wrote: >I understand that each person has a passion for thier own genre of music. >Mine happens to be house. Both Deep and progressive. Throw in a mix of >trance and Im in heaven. Id like to hear what each person has to say about >thier passion? Such as all the jungle heads, trance babys and so forth. > >Peace, M > >Groove On Atmospheric D N' B, Progressive Down Beat, Acid house, Acid Trance, and, by all means.....PROGRESSIVE TRANCE! 8) MODA From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 07:59:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25381 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 07:59:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 25370 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 07:59:42 -0000 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 07:59:42 -0000 Received: from [209.157.52.108] (dynamic44.pm02.east-bay.best.com [209.157.52.108]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id AAA15001 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 00:57:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: sftrance@shell18.ba.best.com (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 00:58:21 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: MODA Subject: K A O S Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just thought that everyone would like to give our boy KAOS some props.........Check out the following! 8) MODA >Delivered-To: seraves@listserv.american.edu >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:03:02 EDT >Reply-To: Sylph0304@aol.com >Sender: South East Rave List >From: Sylph0304@aol.com >Subject: Re: DJ KAOS /// atmospheric d'n'b >To: SERAVES@AMERICAN.EDU >X-Rcpt-To: moda@trancefusion.com > > OK, I know that Max and Kyle already know what I think of KAOS, but I >thought I would share with the rest of the list. Moda gave me KAOS' tape >back in March and I immediately fell in love with it. Everyone compares KAOS >to LTJ, but I actually like KAOS' tape better than my LTJ CDs. Everyone that >has come over to my place in the past few months and has listened to it loved >it. In fact, before Mirage booked Chris for ATL I already had people asking >when we were going to bring him to town. I remember when Max and Kevin first >got their copy of KAOS' tape. We were on the phone one night, I had my KAOS >tape going and so did they. All they kept saying was "listen to this...this >is SOOOO good", then the phone would be put up to the stereo for a few >minutes with me trying to tell them "hey guys, I'm listening to the tape >myself right now." Hehe! I can't wait until ATL gets a tast of KAOS on June >12th. Even those of you who aren't big d'n'b fans, I suggest you check him >out that night. I'm not sure whether Rewind is carrying his tapes right now, >but if you're interested in hearing what all the hype is about give them a >call to check if they do in fact have any KAOS tapes. Again, KAOS will be in >Charlotte on May 28th and in ATL on June 12th for Mirage. Take care everyone >and I'll see you at both events! =) > >~*Fairy Princess Ash*~ > >In a message dated 5/10/99 3:36:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >maxbass@hotmail.com writes: > ><< >after reading some awesome reviews of KAOS' mix tape on SF_RAVES, i >wondered > >if anyone on SE_RAVES has had the chance to hear it. if so, what do you > >think? > > > >KAOS' atmospheric d & b sets have turned a lot of people onto drum & bass > >who never seemed to have any interest in the genre before. it's rare to > >find a drum & bass dj that is loved by those not "into" drum & bass while > >still be loved by even the most critical d&b headz. > > > >anyone got an opinion on this? >> > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 08:02:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27727 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 08:02:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 27705 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 08:02:21 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 08:02:21 -0000 Message-ID: <19990511080044.24603.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.86.220.227] by web4; Tue, 11 May 1999 01:00:44 PDT Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 01:00:44 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: Re: Passions for your genre: To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Whatever makes a chill run up my spine... No boundaries, no classifications. -Science From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 08:09:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 310 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 08:09:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 299 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 08:09:14 -0000 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (140.142.33.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 08:09:14 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id BAA22542 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 01:09:12 -0700 Message-ID: <005901be9b85$aaf52220$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: Subject: Re: Passions for your genre: Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 01:10:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm with Mr. Science, whatever gets my feet moving, mind moving, body grooving or thoughts elevating is good for me. I go through too many phases and normal cycles to limit myself to a few labels. If you can successfully sample some country, hey, I'm down... Peace, Alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- She wants a good life, No man to cause her pain and strife. -=- Cocoa Tea -----Original Message----- From: SCiEnCe To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 1:02 AM Subject: Re: Passions for your genre: >Whatever makes a chill run up my spine... >No boundaries, no classifications. > >-Science > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 08:11:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1397 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 08:11:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 1372 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 08:11:51 -0000 Received: from ns2.safemail.com (204.89.219.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 08:11:51 -0000 Received: from starbug (ip35.safemail.com [204.89.219.35]) by ns2.safemail.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA19972 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 01:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <005901be9b86$19f8a0c0$8c2417ac@starbug.eco.compuware.com> From: "Charlie Faulkner" To: "sfraves" Subject: Attitude Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 01:13:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Attitude - Charles Swindoll The longer I live, the more I realize the impact of attitude on life. Attitude to me is more important than the facts, it is more important than the past, than education, than money, than circumstances, than failures, than sucesses. Attitude is more important than what other people think, what they say or do.Attitude is more important than appearance, giftedness, or skill. It will make or break a company, a church, or a home. The remarkable thing is that we have a choice everyday regarding the attitude we will embrace for that day. We cannot change the past, we cannot change the fact that people will act in a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable. The only thing we can do is play on the one string we do have, and that is our attitude. I'm convinced that life is 10% of what happens to me, and 90% how I react to it. And so it is with you that we are in charge of our attitudes. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Peace, Love, Cowfish! Charlie charlie@safemail.com "Eagles may soar, but weasels never get sucked into jet engines." "Can't I just dream?!" -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 08:14:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2347 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 08:13:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 2339 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 08:13:57 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 08:13:57 -0000 Message-ID: <19990511081220.25545.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.86.220.227] by web4; Tue, 11 May 1999 01:12:20 PDT Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 01:12:20 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: NRR: Short list Top 10 all time albums. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok, just to throw it out there, here are my current all-time favorite albums. We haven't done this in a while. Subject to change, and in no order, of course! Oh, and anything by the Beatles or other obvious choices is not allowed:P 1. My Bloody Valentine- Loveless 2. Stone Roses- Stone Roses 3. Dexy's Midnight Runners- Search For the Young Soul Rebel 4. Belle and Sebastian- Are You Feeling Sinister 5. Stereolab- Mars Audiac Quintet 6. Spacemen 3- Playing With Fire 7. The Smiths- The Queen is Dead 8. The Lilys- Eccsame The Photon Band 9. Digable Planets- Reachin'(a new refutation of time and space) 10. Red House Painters- Down Colorful Hill 11. Public Enemy- Fear of a Black Planet 12. Pavement- Slanted and Enchanted From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 08:17:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5080 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 08:17:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 5072 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 08:17:56 -0000 Received: from sakaki.communique.net (204.27.64.202) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 08:17:56 -0000 Received: from beltane.slambook.com (beltane.slambook.com [204.0.214.21]) by sakaki.communique.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01361; Tue, 11 May 1999 03:17:47 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199905110817.DAA01361@sakaki.communique.net> X-Originating-IP: 209.240.200.105 Subject: Come Sign My New SlamBook! From: "David Fontes Jr." Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 03:17:43 -0500 To: "" , "" , "" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: JMail 3.6.3 by Dimac (www.dimac.net) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is an invitation for everyone to come sign my new SlamBook! I've got a bunch of great questions that I think you'll all enjoy. I'm really looking forward to each of you signing my S= lamBook and I know we'll all have fun reading each other's answers. Please come check it out at: http://www.slambook.com/slambooks/viewsb.asp?sb=3Dhappyface Browse around a bit and check out what other people have written, then add your own by selecting Sign My SlamBook! from t= he menu. If you haven't heard about SlamBooks yet, you can check them out at http://www.slambook.com/. They are a great new way to= interact with people on the Internet, a great addition to any home page. ------------------------------------------------------- Get Your Own FREE SlamBook! at http://www.slambook.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 08:21:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6655 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 08:21:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 6639 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 08:21:28 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 08:21:28 -0000 Received: from Juju0322@aol.com (7814) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3ZXZa17023 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 04:20:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Juju0322@aol.com Message-ID: <96490564.2469425f@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 04:20:47 EDT Subject: Signing off To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well, this list is becoming to much for me lately, but i hope to talk to y'all still, i will be back on this list soon when i have more time and can check my e-mail more often...much love -Stephanie Marie- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 08:28:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8631 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 08:28:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 8622 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 08:28:01 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 08:28:01 -0000 Message-ID: <19990511082127.14840.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [128.32.91.65] by attach1; Tue, 11 May 1999 01:21:27 PDT Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 01:21:27 -0700 (PDT) From: DJ climaXXX Reply-To: DJclimaXXX@yahoo.com Subject: BSP: Thunderdome, June 25th, 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk climaXXX productions presents- Thunderdome June 25th, 1999 (In Order of Appearence) Trance: Heidi&Anakin (Rebel Sound Alliance), DJ D (T&J Factory), Bryan Lee(GlobalEnergyMusik, SF/LA), DJ Eyal (GlobalEnergyMusik, Fragrant, Phatt Phunk Records, LA), Happy Kid Ian (Happy Kids), DJ 725 (Kuang Mark, XI) Happycore&Jungle-Nebula (climaXXX), Simon Apex(AlphaMagicRecordings, UK) _-VS-_ DJ Nimh (Happy4Beats, Phoenix, AZ), DJ ansi (R.A.S.H., Redemption), DJ climaXXX 400 person capacity, underground East Bay (not ghetto!) location w/free water, outdoor chillspace and more suprises. $10 presales available soon...$12 @ THA' DOOR 5 1 0 . 7 2 6 . 1 3 0 3 SUPPORT THE UNDERGROUND!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 08:39:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12298 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 08:39:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 12286 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 08:39:53 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 08:39:53 -0000 Message-ID: <19990511082259.2233.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [128.32.91.65] by web1; Tue, 11 May 1999 01:22:58 PDT Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 01:22:58 -0700 (PDT) From: DJ climaXXX Reply-To: DJclimaXXX@yahoo.com Subject: Back once again with the Renegade master... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk A-yo SFR kiddies! It's meh again, here to blab on and on about anything silly, cynical, and anything at all pertaining to HappyCore. If there are any questions about mah upcoming event, please let me know. I hope to see you all there, and please don't get amd at me, but I'll be posting a few more times, especially when new info (such as presale status etc.) is known. The Trance is the main focus of this event, but there's still HappyCore (gotta stay true!). I've got some local favs like DJ D, Happy Kid Ian, Bryan Lee and Anakin, along with DJ Eyal, who is quite amazing. Check him out if you need a definitive reason for coming, he's fucking off the hook. The main showcase for Happy Core is Simon Apex and DJ Nimh on a 2X4, they'll be playin' for at least 2 hours, three if I can squeeze it out of them! In November I've already begun planning for a super-duper Happy HArdcore lineup, so all the cheddar-heads out there prepare! Just to see if anyone is reading this, and other such self-acknowledgements of existence, I'd like to offer a pre-sale ticket to the first person who can tell me what the song name, number and label that the title is on. (HINT:I'm looking for the HappyHardcore release!!!) I suppose I'll shut up now...so keep it real, keep it happy, keep it underground! HugZ N' sm:)es- DJ climaXXX ;^) === "But what is the speed of dark?" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 11:04:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10833 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 11:04:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 10823 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 11:04:00 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 11:04:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990511110225.10123.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [128.32.91.65] by web4; Tue, 11 May 1999 04:02:25 PDT Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 04:02:25 -0700 (PDT) From: DJ climaXXX Reply-To: DJclimaXXX@yahoo.com Subject: Free TiXXX To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I was referring to the subject line in my previous message. "Back once again with the renegade master...beatforce damager, nothing can save ya, can you feel it, with the ill-behavior...all for the renegade amster...outta here!" what is the title of the track, artist, and record label? first one to answer correctly gets a free ticket to Thunderdome... DJ climaXXX ;^) PS-I'm looking for teh HAPPYHARDCORE release! === "But what is the speed of dark?" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 11:15:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14505 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 11:15:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 14489 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 11:15:48 -0000 Received: from pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (HELO pimout1-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.58.53) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 11:15:48 -0000 Received: from prodigy.net (SNFCB210-44.splitrock.net [209.156.149.159]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA70342; Tue, 11 May 1999 07:15:44 -0400 Message-ID: <3738109F.8BDB7B75@prodigy.net> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 04:12:32 -0700 From: JOELANZON Reply-To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DJclimaXXX@yahoo.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Free TiXXX References: <19990511110225.10123.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Wildchild - Renegade Master - Ultra Records peace- Joe Lanzon DJ climaXXX wrote: > I was referring to the subject line in my previous message. > "Back once again with the renegade master...beatforce damager, nothing > can save ya, can you feel it, with the ill-behavior...all for the > renegade amster...outta here!" > what is the title of the track, artist, and record label? first one > to answer correctly gets a free ticket to Thunderdome... > DJ climaXXX ;^) > PS-I'm looking for teh HAPPYHARDCORE release! > > === > "But what is the speed of dark?" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 11:23:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16730 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 11:23:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 16715 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 11:23:22 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 11:23:22 -0000 Message-ID: <19990511112147.12148.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [128.32.91.65] by web4; Tue, 11 May 1999 04:21:47 PDT Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 04:21:47 -0700 (PDT) From: DJ climaXXX Reply-To: DJclimaXXX@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Free TiXXX To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Joe got the orginal...not the happycore release!!! still searchin' (hey that's another happycore song...) DJ climaXXX =) === "But what is the speed of dark?" ---JOELANZON wrote: > > Wildchild - Renegade Master - Ultra Records > > peace- Joe Lanzon > > > > DJ climaXXX wrote: > > > I was referring to the subject line in my previous message. > > "Back once again with the renegade master...beatforce damager, nothing > > can save ya, can you feel it, with the ill-behavior...all for the > > renegade amster...outta here!" > > what is the title of the track, artist, and record label? first one > > to answer correctly gets a free ticket to Thunderdome... > > DJ climaXXX ;^) > > PS-I'm looking for teh HAPPYHARDCORE release! > > > > === > > "But what is the speed of dark?" > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 12:33:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4995 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 12:33:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 4981 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 12:33:32 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 12:33:32 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.240] (libya-240.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.240]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06516; Tue, 11 May 1999 05:33:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 05:56:02 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Tue) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello...today's quote is... Kindness is produced by kindness. ---Marcus Tullius Cicero ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 13:53:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8673 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 13:53:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 8654 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 13:53:11 -0000 Received: from www.concourse.net (HELO mail.concourse.net) (209.63.66.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 13:53:11 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (209.63.66.61) by mail.concourse.net with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Tue, 11 May 1999 05:57:30 -0800 Message-ID: <373835B1.8B6301DF@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 06:50:42 -0700 From: Paul Sober X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SF Raves Subject: Re: Free TiXXX References: <19990511110225.10123.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk title: Eleven Asako artist: Avalon label: (i'm guessing here) tunnel? ok, i dont know if that release is fast enough to be happy hardcore, but it's fast, and pumping, check out the tunnel trance force volume six disk two. i've listenned to that a thousand times and i still didn't know what that squeeky voice was saying. do i get to go to thunderdome?! paul DJ climaXXX wrote: > I was referring to the subject line in my previous message. > "Back once again with the renegade master...beatforce damager, nothing > can save ya, can you feel it, with the ill-behavior...all for the > renegade amster...outta here!" > what is the title of the track, artist, and record label? first one > to answer correctly gets a free ticket to Thunderdome... > DJ climaXXX ;^) > PS-I'm looking for teh HAPPYHARDCORE release! > > === > "But what is the speed of dark?" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 14:44:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13639 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 14:44:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 13505 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 14:43:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO next-mail.hightrend.com) (209.31.33.216) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 14:43:43 -0000 Received: from adc1257 (10.1.1.150 [10.1.1.150]) by next-mail.hightrend.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id GGJAQM8C; Tue, 11 May 1999 07:51:05 -0700 Received: by adc1257 with Microsoft Mail id <01BE9B81.AB7C7760@adc1257>; Tue, 11 May 1999 07:41:24 -0700 Message-ID: <01BE9B81.AB7C7760@adc1257> From: Vitaly Golomb To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Subject: Thanks (&more info) from VORG Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 07:41:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thank you very much, everybody, for coming out and making this a great = night!!! Thank you to all the DJays!!!! Thank you ever so much to the Children of = the Sun: Isak, Steve, and KJ, and Matt of Warmth for all the awesome = help you guys provided!!! Thank you to Northern Lights who did an out of = this world light show. Thank you to CTA Lasers for a very cool laser = show. And finally thank you all VORG staff and all our friends who = helped us through these several months of preparation. We are happy to report that we caught 3 people that were selling fake = tickets and they were arested, two of which were about to break into = someone's car. =20 It was a crazy day on Saturday trying to setup for a party of this = magnitude in one day was no easy task. (we were supposed to have all = week, hmmm?) We had to face some problems but all in all the party = turned out great! For those of you that still have your ticket stubs from "HI!", we will = put out a mix tape by Atomic DJ and you can redeem you free gift with = your ticket stub at the usual record stores. We are working on our website WWW.VORG.ORG and that will be up shortly. And lastly, you can check out the audio archives of "VORG" and parts of = "HI!" on WWW.HOUZEPAGE.COM. Thank you very much, we love you all, Vitaly and VORG staff From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 16:01:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4812 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 16:01:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 4691 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 16:01:47 -0000 Received: from jeter.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 16:01:47 -0000 Received: from godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.45]) by jeter.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id LAA25262; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:50:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id LAA28947; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:50:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:50:34 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu To: OXnymphXO@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Waiting for the emergence of 2 separate scenes In-Reply-To: <8163ecb8.2468d831@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk EXACTLY! On Mon, 10 May 1999 OXnymphXO@aol.com wrote: > > i think what all the people who are worried about the newbies who "don't know > what it's all about" and aren't going to offer anything to the scene etc etc( > basically everthing that has been said about the new kids) need to just keep > in mind and cling to if necessary, is that it is just a FAD! > "raves" and now all they wanna do is go to take drugs and get on as many > people as possible, > without any regard for the music or respect for the scene. > > i have seen people from my school going to raves and they just stand there, > not talking to anyone, not dancing. they will get sick of it soon cuz it is a > TREND. it will die off.and those that don't get sick of it, probably will end > up adding to the scene. just keep that in mind. > > alida > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 16:09:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11321 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 16:09:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 11313 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 16:09:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 16:09:05 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 247; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:06:24 -0700 Message-ID: <37385630.5B5B06E5@hrg.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:09:20 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SCiEnCe CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Short list Top 10 all time albums. References: <19990511081220.25545.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In no particular order... 1. Tool - Opiate 2. Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon 3. Pink Floyd - Live at Pompei 4. Led Zepplin - Led Zepplin 4 5. Orb - Adventures Beyond Ultraworld 6. Future Sound of London - Accelerator 7. Fluke - Oto 8. Hardkiss - Delusions of Grandeur 9. AC/DC - Back in Black 10. Depeche Mode - Violator 11. Metallica - Ride the Lightning 12. Beastie Boys - Pauls Boutique 13. Schtum - Grow From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 16:26:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26132 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 16:26:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 25992 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 16:26:27 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 16:26:27 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-180.dsp.com [204.118.76.180]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA15786; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:26:14 -0700 Message-Id: <199905111626.JAA15786@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:25:23 -0700 To: johnr@hrg.com, SCiEnCe From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: NRR: Short list Top 10 all time albums. Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <37385630.5B5B06E5@hrg.com> References: <19990511081220.25545.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Mmm... AC/DC, My Bloody Valentine, Public Enemy - I'm definitely in agreement. My Top 10 List The Swans - the Great Annihilator Test Dept - Totality Big Black - Pig Pile Xray Specs - Germ Free Adolescents Bauhaus - Press Eject and Give Me the Tape Brian Eno - Before and After Science Shriekback - Jamscience Cop Shoot Cop - Ask Questions Later Gary Numan - Replicas Japan - Oil on Canvas Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 17:18:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14209 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 17:18:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 14036 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 17:17:56 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 17:17:56 -0000 Received: from XXxHaiLx@aol.com (8078) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id lJBMa27693; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:15:30 -0400 (EDT) From: XXxHaiLx@aol.com Message-ID: <2d02e22b.2469bfb2@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:15:30 EDT Subject: Re: Free TiXXX To: xtcin69@rocketmail.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The title of the track is Right time. It was released on Vital Elemets. VE0006. The Choon was done by Dj Demo & Digital illusion. =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 17:18:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14512 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 17:18:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 14317 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 17:18:10 -0000 Received: from ewey-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO ewey.excite.com) (198.3.99.191) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 17:18:10 -0000 Received: from zero.excite.com ([199.172.152.241]) by ewey.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990511171541.MMLK20897.ewey@zero.excite.com> for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:15:41 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: "invite only parties"? Message-Id: <926442921.1009.77@excite.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:15:21 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk paul e wog, you want to know what happened to the invite only parties? yo, paul. they're still around. maybe you're just not being invited? wonder how that could be... maybe it's your attitude. though i'm sure your sarcasm has a special spot in some people's hearts, maybe it's a little too much for those smaller parties where people actually *like* each other. maybe it's that you dress all like the cande king and then complain that the other cande kids wanna hug you. yuch. must be awful, all that fur rubbing on fur, plastic necklaces getting all tangled up. i feel for you. but your idea to throw one of your own is a good one... gabber to your heart's content, only invite those who dress in a way that you approve of (um, wonder how many people would make *that* list).... do it yourself is the theme for sure. seriously. love, leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 17:48:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3318 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 17:48:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 3110 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 17:48:04 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 17:48:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19990511173102.6175.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [128.32.91.80] by web1; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:31:02 PDT Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:31:02 -0700 (PDT) From: DJ climaXXX Reply-To: DJclimaXXX@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Free TiXXX To: XXxHaiLx@aol.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ---XXxHaiLx@aol.com wrote: > > The title of the track is Right time. > It was released on Vital Elemets. VE0006. > The Choon was done by Dj Demo & Digital illusion. > > =) > That's right! Dayum, I wasn't expecting an answer in less than 10 hours to my post, but hey! E-mail me and I'll send ya the ticket. Thanks for spreadin' the HardCore Vibe.<~~~another choon....jeez=Þ DJ climaXXX ;^) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 17:48:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4391 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 17:48:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 4383 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 17:48:38 -0000 Received: from web133.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.220) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 17:48:38 -0000 Message-ID: <19990511174919.27271.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web133.yahoomail.com; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:49:19 PDT Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:49:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: "invite only parties"? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OMG! That harsh. =Þ But yea, they are still out there. I was at one in Cameron Park a couple of weeks ago. --- leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > paul e wog, you want to know what happened to the > invite only parties? > > yo, paul. they're still around. maybe you're just > not being invited? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 17:50:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5799 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 17:50:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 5547 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 17:50:08 -0000 Received: from sco.sco.com (132.147.128.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 17:50:08 -0000 Received: from novasco.sco.COM(132.147.178.252) via SMTP by sco.sco.COM, id smtpdBAAa0064W; Tue May 11 10:48:30 1999 Received: from lesleymo.sco.com by novasco.sco.com id aa07489; 11 May 99 10:43 PDT Message-ID: <37386C2C.F24B1F9D@sco.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:43:08 -0700 From: Lesley Mortell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DJclimaXXX@yahoo.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Free TiXXX References: <19990511110225.10123.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Sorry but your inadvertant misspelling has made my morning ..... DJ climaXXX wrote: > with the ill-behavior...all for the > renegade amster...outta here!" ^^^^^^ I always though happyhardcore vocals sounded like chipmunks on speed not hamsters .... ducking for cover. Lesley From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 18:37:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26669 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 18:37:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 26493 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 18:37:39 -0000 Received: from web134.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.221) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 18:37:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19990511183802.25205.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.105.189.74] by web134.yahoomail.com; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:38:02 PDT Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:38:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Violette Subject: PAGING KENT aKa Gammbino To: SF Raves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Sorry bout the spam everyone but im looking for my boy kent...HEy bro whats up with friday and saturday night? LEts kick it....I think i can get a ride to formula if im lucky...well write me back ASAP!! LAter ~!@CHRIS@!~ Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 18:48:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6630 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 18:48:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 6538 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 18:48:34 -0000 Received: from shell.entic.net (root@209.249.172.242) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 18:48:34 -0000 Received: from nico.sjsu.edu (nico@x130-65-210-22.sjsu.edu [130.65.210.22]) by shell.entic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11661; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:49:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:48:49 -0700 (PDT) From: n i c o X-Sender: nico@nico.sjsu.edu To: leslie.ayres@excite.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: "invite only parties"? In-Reply-To: <926442921.1009.77@excite.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > paul e wog, you want to know what happened to the invite only parties? > > yo, paul. they're still around. maybe you're just not being invited? > > wonder how that could be... maybe it's your attitude. though i'm sure your > sarcasm has a special spot in some people's hearts, maybe it's a little too > much for those smaller parties where people actually *like* each other. > I think you should keep this negativity off the list. It's kinda disheartening to see this stuff pop up. ((( l0ve always ))) nico nico@entic.net http://www.entic.net/~nico From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 18:49:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7341 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 18:49:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 7282 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 18:48:58 -0000 Received: from law-f105.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.168) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 18:48:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 44846 invoked by uid 0); 11 May 1999 18:48:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19990511184832.44845.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.236.45.61 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:48:32 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.236.45.61] From: "Wil Hanno" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: DJ question Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:48:32 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Who is the Jungle DJ who mixes the title track from the movie "Ghost in the Shell"? I dig that. I first heard it at Babylon but I'm not sure who it was. Thanks for your help and I hope you're doing well -J From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 18:58:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15521 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 18:58:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 15410 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 18:58:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO airlink.com) (199.108.92.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 18:58:10 -0000 Received: from [199.108.92.47] by airlink.com (SMTPD32-3.02) id AE614E580074; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:00:49 -0700 From: "Rick" To: "Wil Hanno" , "SFRaves" Subject: RE: DJ question Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:52:45 -0700 Message-ID: <000101be9bdf$74cda8c0$2f5c6cc7@tatooine.AirLink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 In-Reply-To: <19990511184832.44845.qmail@hotmail.com> Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That would be Makai - Beneath the Mask. it's on his cd, millenium. first track. so far it's import only. =\ expensive but worth it. >Who is the Jungle DJ who mixes the title track from the movie "Ghost in the >Shell"? I dig that. I first heard it at Babylon but I'm not sure who it was. >Thanks for your help and I hope you're doing well >-J Your Jedi Jungle Brother, Jedi666Boy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 19:00:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17961 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 19:00:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 17934 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 19:00:32 -0000 Received: from goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 19:00:32 -0000 Received: from [209.179.144.127] (pool145-cvx.ds50-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.143.145]) by goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19420; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:00:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: radley@mail.elemental.nu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <373780BE.F1BDE0DE@geocities.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:01:08 -0700 To: Paul*E*Wog From: Radley Marx Subject: Re: Waiting for the emergence of 2 separate scenes Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Dude!!! For reals. I for one would like to say something serious. I >HATE... HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE raves. Every time some e-traded candy >trash bitch comes up and tries to hug me i feel like pushing them on the >floor and ripping those nasty beads off their neck. I hate ravers. I >hate raves. They are a waste of time. There are better things to do in >life besides ecstacy. > >I really wish i had never gone.=20 > >I am regretting that day very much now. > >I hate CYBER TRANCE!!!!! And the party at Skills just reminded me how >ugly our sf scene is. It's disgusting. Its gross. It needs to be hosed >down. Those kids are gross, sweaty, can't coordinate their clothes. And >they are overly tacky. >It makes me sick to think that promoters would welcome this kind of >trash into their venue? > >What happened to invite only parities??? Where is the UG? I am going to >throw my own party and handpick the people i want to be there from the >crowd. > >I hate ravers. They suck!!!! I hate ravers... > >This is not sarcasm. This is serious. I despise this scene and what it >has become. It's nothing but a farm of kids on drugs. Make me feel gross >to be apart of this. I want out!!! > >=3DPaul*E*Wog wow dude, I hope you're just having a bad day. may I take this chance to= offer another point of view? yeah, drugs suck. but don't bash on the people of our scene. I just heard a= comedian describe it like this: "me and a friend went to Disneyland high...= and we were convinced that everyone there was ugly but us." This is a not= so talked about natural reaction to people. Remember, they were dancing in= the dirt. What else did you really expect? Invite only parties are still out there. Maybe you're not aware of them= because of kind of the messages you're sending out. We could invite you to= one of our private events, but why since you've attacked my friends? You're= focusing on the bad and lashing out; that's a lot for others to deal with. Hey, I've done it too, so you're easily forgiven. But next time: at least make it funny! Sorry the scene is so ugly. =46ix it. Make it better. I'll help you if you want. -r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 19:18:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 151 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 19:18:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 133 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 19:17:58 -0000 Received: from mail.lunatic.org (207.171.204.205) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 19:17:58 -0000 Received: from impact.lunatic.org (localhost.lunatic.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lunatic.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA02190; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:28:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905111928.MAA02190@mail.lunatic.org> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, leslie.ayres@excite.com Subject: Re: "invite only parties"? In-Reply-To: <926442921.1009.77@excite.com>) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:28:13 -0700 From: Jan Setje-Eilers Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah, right on, let's all just kick that evil person that violated the plur-code until they shut up and / or conform! Is that really what 'the rave scene' has come to? If it has, then you can have it. Quite obviously it had been take over by the same people that made me take refuge in an underground to begin with. There have got to be lots of people out there who are turned off by e-tarded behavior and music / parties that catering to it, but are still interested in the rest of the rave scene. There really is more too it, but if you don't have the time to go out twice a week it is really hard to find in SF (I at least keep catching glimpses). -jan From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 20:23:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27635 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 20:23:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 27407 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 20:23:34 -0000 Received: from fletch.fix.net (telkionish@206.190.71.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 20:23:34 -0000 Received: from localhost (telkionish@localhost) by fletch.fix.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA03647 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:24:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Adair To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Macs vs PCs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Not to get in a big tech argument or anything.. This is a rave list, not slashdot.org, but i couldnt resist making a few comments since this list was obviously compiled from a bunch of marketing BS, and is mostly buzzwords and very little substance... The author did do a great job of flaunting her lack of knowledge, but it was good entertainment, which was probably the aim.. before people get all excited though, let me state my opionion of the matter.. G3 architecture = VERY GOOD MacOS = VERY BAD x86 architecture(includes pentium) = decent Windows 95/98 = BAD.. I cant decide if i have win9x or macos worse though. Windows NT = huge step over macos and win9x, but still pretty crappy.. now throw linux on a G3 and you have something... I just have a hard time paying twice as much for hardware that is marginally better (today.. tomorrow there will be something better anyway) >Not this past weekend but the weekend before that I had the chance for the >first time in my life to fly somewhere and say silly things somewhere >else, in Durham, NC, and Atlanta, GA. I picked up a rather wicked fucking >free zine called Vice from Montreal, which is maybe my favorite city on >Earth, big up per-capita babe ratios! Ther eis a rather funny top 10 >thing in it, MAcs vs PCs >1) PC Users look like racists from the early 1950's but Mac users have >tatoos and smoke pot. actually i thought PC users look like everybody since over 90% of the world's computers are PC architecture.. >2) when the year 2000 hits, everything PC will explode while Macs let out >a great big yawn and casually go abou;t their day. Even Windows 98 has >serious Y2K problems. How do you make software for 1998 and not think >about 1999? Really?? Think so??? I guess i better move to the desert and stockpile weapons, because nuclear missles are gonna fire randomly too... All hype, no explosions.. really... If i wasnt resourceful enough to download the y2k updates for office, one of my papers might say jan 1, 1900.. My teacher is gonna give me an F for that, im sure.. Im sure there are hundreds of Mac programs out there that have the same problems.. >3) USB was invented by Intel, Microsoft, and other PC manufacturers to >replace aging serial connections. Of course, PC are a bunch of cry babies >that were too scared to use it, so Mac adopted it as the new standard and >put it on the iMac. No doubt PCs will be using a cheaper version if it >does well. Really?? My computer i bought 2 years ago had USB ports... 2 of em... a cheaper version, as in that they cost less ?? yeah... but USB is USB.. If it doesnt conform to the USB standard, it is not USB.. >4) Firewire is thanks to Apple. Apple brought SCSI into this world and >Apple's taking it out. apple did not invent SCSI... SCSI has been around for a very long time.. I have SCSI drives in my PC, and my roomate had IDE drives in his powerbook.. And apple didnt not invent firewire... PC's have had it just as long.. although, a company did just put out firewire hard drives for the mac only, and they kick ass, but they are SOOO expensive, and 8gb max at this point... >5) Quicktime movies take up almost no space and have excellent image >quality while Microsoft's .AVI format is fat and clunky and looks like >watching TV from across the sreet. Really?? if you scale down the quality on your .avi's they get blocky and look like .mpg's... wow... great observation.. quicktimes can be viewed on PC's and avi's can be viewed on the macos... i dont see a problem.. oh yeah.. and in the next version of quicktime, they gave up on using their own sound compression and shelled out the $$ to licence GOOD sound compression ala mp3... >6) VICE is done on Macs. ???? >7_ Windows bit their interface from the Mac, but they forgot toteal the >good parts. The folder windows don't size to surround your files; they >fill the whole fucking screen. And what is with that "start" menu? >Didn't they learn anything from Xerox? We can see the folder, but it >doesn't open. The only thing Microsoft ever did that was of any value was >getting Brian Eno to make up their start-up chime. God i hate that chime... I guess a customizable interface is sorta difficult for someone who isnt resourceful enough to figure out how to customize it to their satisfaction.. >8) Everyone at PC hardware manufacturers like IMB shits in their pants and >goes to Blockbuster. ??? >9) a 400mhz G3 is still faster than a dual pentium II 450, which is now >like two horses trying to pull a jet instead of one. faster eh??? comparing apples to oranges again... the g3 is faster at some things, and the pentium II is faster at other things... >10) The New Pentium III. It's bigger, and sucks more power, but now it >has more instruction sets (part of its problem in the first place). Some >PC users have spread rumors that the P3 is a RISC chip, like the G3s or >SGIs. If you believe that shit, then you also believe the P3 is the path >to "faster internet." It isnt any bigger.. it doesnt suck more power... having more instructions doesnt slow anything down... all the instructions are just as fast as they were in the pentium 2.. It just allows you to do some things faster... what kinda moron would call a pentium chip RISC??? sounds like some stupid writer that writes uninformed articles... oh yeah... SGI stopped making their own CPU's a year or two ago.. what are they putting in their machines now??? are those INTEL processors??? I believe they are!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 20:29:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6331 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 20:29:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 6037 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 20:28:56 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 20:28:56 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com (3937) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 8QEa004813; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:27:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: <41bcd15c.2469ecb9@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:27:37 EDT Subject: Re: "invite only parties"? To: nico@entic.net, leslie.ayres@excite.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That didn't look to me like negativity, it looked more like reality. In a message dated 5/11/99 11:49:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time, nico@entic.net writes: << > paul e wog, you want to know what happened to the invite only parties? > > yo, paul. they're still around. maybe you're just not being invited? > > wonder how that could be... maybe it's your attitude. though i'm sure your > sarcasm has a special spot in some people's hearts, maybe it's a little too > much for those smaller parties where people actually *like* each other. > I think you should keep this negativity off the list. It's kinda disheartening to see this stuff pop up. >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 20:41:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18285 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 20:41:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 18084 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 20:41:33 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 20:41:33 -0000 Received: from OoHiTeKoO@aol.com (550) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJWNa24274 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:39:51 -0400 (EDT) From: OoHiTeKoO@aol.com Message-ID: <7c357193.2469efa7@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:40:07 EDT Subject: newbie to tha mailing list To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hi guys, i've been into dance music since i was 8 years old. i remember buying my first 12" which was tour de france by kraftwerk and popping to classic electro with my cousins. i think growing up in daly city and SF allowed me to further my passion for the music. and then when i heard about these so called raves back in 91 and 92(i was a junior in high school) i always wanted to go with my friends but due to certain circumstances, i didn't go to my first rave until 94(remember the kinetic parties at the sofabed warehouse?) i've always loved dance music. i'm a big fan of early hardcore and early jungle, and also the trancey stuff. i think SF has a good scene, but remember, wherever u are there's always gonna be a few rotten apples. but i have the mentality that i'm not gonna let it spoil my fun. just find another place to dance where u don't have to deal with those kind of people. the first step is education. educate the young ones. cuz they soon will be the future of our scene. but n e way, i hope that we can keep the scene alive and kickin. peace to all of you. jase From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 20:47:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25068 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 20:47:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 24750 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 20:47:24 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 20:47:24 -0000 Received: from OoHiTeKoO@aol.com (550) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vFVEa09694 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:46:41 -0400 (EDT) From: OoHiTeKoO@aol.com Message-ID: <64111a85.2469f12d@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:46:37 EDT Subject: wants to know about invite only parties? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hi guys, it's me jase again. i was wondering about thouse invite only parties??? i would really like to know what it's like at a smaller, more intimate event instead of all the hype that a massive brings along with it. i wanna see REAL people who have REAL passion for music, instead of brainless "puddles" of adolescents trippin off of glowstix all nite. i take dance music seriously(maybe too seriously) but in a positive way. and i also take dancing seriously, and the less people there are at a party, the more space for me to get mah gruv on...hehehe...and if they get "STEPPERZ" at invite only parties that are twice as good at dancing and twice as cute, puhleez!!! let me know the skinny on these parties..i'm only gonna be here a few more weeks before i head back to the philippines and continue my schooling over there. and lemme tell you, the rave scene there is like non-existent. i would appreciate it if one of y'all throwin a small private party would invite a TRUE dance music fan to one of your events. thanks a lot and you all take care and PEACE! late, jase From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 20:50:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 656 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 20:50:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 296 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 20:50:19 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 20:50:19 -0000 Received: from Kitana3737@aol.com (14444) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 8RQCa04813; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:48:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Kitana3737@aol.com Message-ID: <28964247.2469f190@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:48:16 EDT Subject: [[nrr]] negativity vs. reality.... was Re: "invite only parties"? To: Space201@aol.com, nico@entic.net, leslie.ayres@excite.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/11/99 4:30:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Space201@aol.com writes: << That didn't look to me like negativity, it looked more like reality. >> how many of you think that ^that^ *is* reality? it`s something i`ve been thinking about lately... whether we operate in a world where everything is presented to us glossed over in a shiny plastic case, but the complete opposite of how everything really works..... we live our daily lives with a certain level of politeness presented to acquaintances in our every day lives... politeness that may seem necessary for things not to completely fall apart [somehow i don`t think politeness is the word i want to use but i can`t think of another one...] we say hi to people we despise, we are forced to deal with people we dislike, etc.... our words are often white lies. how many of you think that this day to day type of operation isn`t the way the world really is? it seems we are so shocked when we are presented with news of behavior contrary to this shiny, smooth, perfect world we all operate under, when in this mechanism we all understand that underneath things are actually really fucked up. think : [this is an extreme case] you watch some children`s show on tv filled with kids saying "yay. i love you. please. thank you.... etc." lead by some shiny, smiley, happy adult hugging all the kids.... when probably that adult goes home to his private life as a pedophile or something..... in direct contrast to his day-time tv show job. i dunno maybe my sense of reality and propriety, etc. is really messed up..... or maybe i just sat out in the sun too long today.. :P eh.... who knows. :) okay. there`s my 2 cents. muchlove, ~*MiCheLLe*~ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 20:56:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7535 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 20:56:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 7364 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 20:55:56 -0000 Received: from dummy.sirius.com (HELO phat.r8x.net) (root@207.44.194.129) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 20:55:55 -0000 Received: from x-radio.com (toker [192.168.1.19]) by phat.r8x.net (8.8.5/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA22394 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:55:49 -0700 Message-ID: <3738996C.B1464B74@x-radio.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:56:12 -0700 From: "W. P. Risenhoover" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: [Fwd: (nyc) !!!!!!] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------5D16E83082C1036C79C2A499" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------5D16E83082C1036C79C2A499 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------5D16E83082C1036C79C2A499 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from hyperreal.org (taz.hyperreal.org [209.133.83.16]) by phat.r8x.net (8.8.5/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA17313 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:34:41 -0700 Received: (qmail 11466 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 20:33:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 11377 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 20:33:39 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 20:33:39 -0000 Received: from NewPe21786@aol.com (7998) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vGKCa04194 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:32:11 -0400 (EDT) From: NewPe21786@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:32:10 EDT Subject: (nyc) !!!!!! To: nyc-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: nyc-raves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 http://news.excite.com/news/r/990511/11/news-district-police Holy shit! What a story. This must make the scene look bad. .^. ,_ | | _, \ \ | | / / \ \ | |/ / __ \ /__ < __ __ > BuDz007 | | | --------------5D16E83082C1036C79C2A499-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 21:03:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14172 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 21:03:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 14146 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 21:03:04 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 21:03:04 -0000 Received: from emfpc-2c (emf-7.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.185.207]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA13344; Tue, 11 May 1999 14:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905112103.OAA13344@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: DJclimaXXX@yahoo.com From: "Rafie" Subject: RE: BSP: Thunderdome, June 25th, 1999 CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:05:38 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk YEAAAAHAHAHAHHHHH!!!!! It's been a long long while, but finally after noise-restriction probationary status has been lifted...THE CRACK HOUSE IS OPEN!! Good Trance, good Happy Harcore, good Jungle all in one little crackhouse. And the only venue currently open that contains an outdoor chill space! YEAAEHAAHAHAHH!!! THUNDERDOME!!!! Wooooooh! Only the hardcore need apply...you know who you are. Rafie P.S. QUOTE OF THE DAY: "New York is really just like Prague sans the whimsy." (the talking dog said it on FAMILY GUY) *ROFL* On Tue, 11 May 1999 01:21:27 -0700 (PDT), DJclimaXXX@yahoo.com wrote... >climaXXX productions presents- >Thunderdome >June 25th, 1999 >(In Order of Appearence) >Trance: Heidi&Anakin (Rebel Sound Alliance), DJ D (T&J Factory), >Bryan Lee(GlobalEnergyMusik, SF/LA), DJ Eyal (GlobalEnergyMusik, >Fragrant, Phatt Phunk Records, LA), Happy Kid Ian (Happy Kids), DJ 725 >(Kuang Mark, XI) >Happycore&Jungle-Nebula (climaXXX), >Simon Apex(AlphaMagicRecordings, UK) _-VS-_ DJ Nimh (Happy4Beats, >Phoenix, AZ), DJ ansi (R.A.S.H., Redemption), DJ climaXXX >400 person capacity, underground East Bay (not ghetto!) location >w/free water, outdoor chillspace and more suprises. >$10 presales available soon...$12 @ THA' DOOR >5 1 0 . 7 2 6 . 1 3 0 3 >SUPPORT THE UNDERGROUND!!! > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 21:04:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17044 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 21:04:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 16851 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 21:04:43 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 21:04:43 -0000 Message-ID: <19990511210307.17951.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.240] by web4; Tue, 11 May 1999 14:03:07 PDT Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:03:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: EQUIP: Turntable Purchase?? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hello, As my addiction grows stronger, to records that is, my need for 1200's grows at the same rate. This weekend, I'm gonna pick up my first technics. Now this is where i need your help, I live in oakland/ berkeley, where should I purchase the table. the guitar center in el cerrito was just suggested?? any clues?? === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 21:06:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19768 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 21:06:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 19518 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 21:06:23 -0000 Received: from corpmail1.jps.net (209.63.224.250) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 21:06:23 -0000 Received: from kickass (209-239-198-210.oak.jps.net [209.239.198.210]) by corpmail1.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA02791; Tue, 11 May 1999 14:05:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00b501be9bf2$7d76ef50$77019665@cuhelp.com> From: "Jay" To: , , "Jan Setje-Eilers" References: <199905111928.MAA02190@mail.lunatic.org> Subject: State of the list & "UG"ness (Opinionated Rant ?) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:08:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Half of this list posts about how bad the scene has gotten and how, if "we" don't care for it more, it will be destroyed. People complaining about PLUR and anti-PLURness, drugs and tastes in music. Though I don't agree with a lot of the negativity, that's the point of this list no ? To bring peoples opinions and thoughts together... to bring us closer to understanding the people that we party with and, hopefully, share so much in common with. I love this list, even with the blatant stereotyping going around. What I do want to point out, is this: How many people are on this list ? 2000, 3000, 5000 ? I have no idea... but I do know that the _active_ posters to this list comprise an extremely small percentage of the attendance at parties. So if you complain, whine and bitch about this 14 year old kid you saw doing E at the last party, what is it doing? If you stop attending... you are only changing you, not other people. Lets take a massive for example. 15,000 people... loving the music, drugs or what-have-you. How many of them care if the "destruction" of your once glorious scene happens? The parties will still forge on, the attendance will still peak and the producers who make the music will still make music (which will be as epic as ever). I think its time that we learn that the scene is rarely influenced by us, but rather _it_ itself influences us. True, it may not be the same scene you remember just 2 years ago... but so what ? Change happens everyday! We don't have to like it, or accept it, but it happens (Shit... I get pissed off when they change my TV shows times =)). This music has changed my life. You people have changed the way I think about our generation (in a positive aspect). This list has given me the freedom of expression that I want and deserve. I am not complaining, and never will. What this scene has given me, no one can take away... not an E-tard, gangster or cop. Words should be easy to swallow, even if harsh... don't shove your opinion down the throat of people who will gladly vomit it back at you. Ok, I go now... Love & Music, -Jay "Don't Fear The Penguins" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 21:22:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10025 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 21:22:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 9894 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 21:22:21 -0000 Received: from web707.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.27) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 21:22:21 -0000 Message-ID: <19990511212007.17063.rocketmail@web707.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.242.20.101] by web707.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 11 May 1999 14:20:07 PDT Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:20:07 -0700 (PDT) From: mike bolger Subject: oh yeah ? To: Paul*E*Wog , BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com Cc: Sfraves@hyperreal.org, TeKnODiVa@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --- Paul*E*Wog wrote: > Dude!!! For reals. I for one would like to say > something serious. I > HATE... HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE raves. Every time > some e-traded candy > trash bitch comes up and tries to hug me i feel like > pushing them on the > floor and ripping those nasty beads off their neck. > I hate ravers. espically those fashion victims who would wear the exact same outfit to 2 parties in the same week, climb trees, and give head to their wistles all day. goofy as fuck white boys with spotty complexions, lanky shoulders, sloppy dances, and the abscance of anything funky. what a damn shame. and don't even get me started on those botched red hair dye 'trash bitches'. oh, the horror - Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 21:23:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12466 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 21:23:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 12216 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 21:23:32 -0000 Received: from f25.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.36) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 21:23:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 45965 invoked by uid 0); 11 May 1999 21:23:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19990511212304.45964.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 11 May 1999 14:23:01 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: jvlavianos@cu-help.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, leslie.ayres@excite.com, setje@lunatic.org Subject: Re: State of the list & Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:23:01 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk W O R D !!!!!! Nuff said you are on track kid. I agree with your post %100 see ya, Macadio >From: "Jay" >To: , , "Jan Setje-Eilers" > >Subject: State of the list & "UG"ness (Opinionated Rant ?) >Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:08:58 -0700 > >Half of this list posts about how bad the scene has gotten and how, if "we" >don't care for it more, it will be destroyed. People complaining about >PLUR >and anti-PLURness, drugs and tastes in music. Though I don't agree with a >lot of the negativity, that's the point of this list no ? To bring peoples >opinions and thoughts together... to bring us closer to understanding the >people that we party with and, hopefully, share so much in common with. I >love this list, even with the blatant stereotyping going around. > >What I do want to point out, is this: How many people are on this list ? >2000, 3000, 5000 ? I have no idea... but I do know that the _active_ >posters to this list comprise an extremely small percentage of the >attendance at parties. So if you complain, whine and bitch about this 14 >year old kid you saw doing E at the last party, what is it doing? If you >stop attending... you are only changing you, not other people. > >Lets take a massive for example. 15,000 people... loving the music, drugs >or what-have-you. How many of them care if the "destruction" of your once >glorious scene happens? The parties will still forge on, the attendance >will still peak and the producers who make the music will still make music >(which will be as epic as ever). I think its time that we learn that the >scene is rarely influenced by us, but rather _it_ itself influences us. >True, it may not be the same scene you remember just 2 years ago... but so >what ? Change happens everyday! We don't have to like it, or accept it, >but it happens (Shit... I get pissed off when they change my TV shows times >=)). > >This music has changed my life. You people have changed the way I think >about our generation (in a positive aspect). This list has given me the >freedom of expression that I want and deserve. I am not complaining, and >never will. What this scene has given me, no one can take away... not an >E-tard, gangster or cop. > >Words should be easy to swallow, even if harsh... don't shove your opinion >down the throat of people who will gladly vomit it back at you. Ok, I go >now... > >Love & Music, >-Jay >"Don't Fear The Penguins" > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 21:29:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21852 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 21:29:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 21826 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 21:29:21 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd95.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.159) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 21:29:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 57656 invoked by uid 0); 11 May 1999 21:29:47 -0000 Message-ID: <19990511212947.57655.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 204.160.32.11 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 11 May 1999 14:29:47 PDT X-Originating-IP: [204.160.32.11] From: "Eric Vandenbroek" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: BSP: Thunderdome, June 25th, 1999 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:29:47 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Personally I have an issue with this party being called Thunderdome. When I first heard about it I thought it was a full on hardcore party, but to may dismay no. Of course not Happy Hardcore/Trance and Jungle. Thunderdome is a trademark of the ID&T Dutch Gabber label. Check out www.thunderdome.com So personally I think that this party shouldn't be called thunderdome to avoid confusion among the true hardcore headz Me >From: "Rafie" >To: DJclimaXXX@yahoo.com >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: BSP: Thunderdome, June 25th, 1999 >Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:05:38 > >YEAAAAHAHAHAHHHHH!!!!! >It's been a long long while, but finally after noise-restriction >probationary status has been lifted...THE CRACK HOUSE IS OPEN!! >Good Trance, good Happy Harcore, good Jungle all in one little >crackhouse. And the only venue currently open that contains an outdoor >chill space! > >YEAAEHAAHAHAHH!!! THUNDERDOME!!!! Wooooooh! >Only the hardcore need apply...you know who you are. > >Rafie >P.S. QUOTE OF THE DAY: > "New York is really just like Prague sans the whimsy." > (the talking dog said it on FAMILY GUY) > *ROFL* > >On Tue, 11 May 1999 01:21:27 -0700 (PDT), >DJclimaXXX@yahoo.com wrote... > >climaXXX productions presents- > >Thunderdome > >June 25th, 1999 > >(In Order of Appearence) > >Trance: Heidi&Anakin (Rebel Sound Alliance), DJ D (T&J Factory), > >Bryan Lee(GlobalEnergyMusik, SF/LA), DJ Eyal (GlobalEnergyMusik, > >Fragrant, Phatt Phunk Records, LA), Happy Kid Ian (Happy Kids), DJ 725 > >(Kuang Mark, XI) > >Happycore&Jungle-Nebula (climaXXX), > >Simon Apex(AlphaMagicRecordings, UK) _-VS-_ DJ Nimh (Happy4Beats, > >Phoenix, AZ), DJ ansi (R.A.S.H., Redemption), DJ climaXXX > >400 person capacity, underground East Bay (not ghetto!) location > >w/free water, outdoor chillspace and more suprises. > >$10 presales available soon...$12 @ THA' DOOR > >5 1 0 . 7 2 6 . 1 3 0 3 > >SUPPORT THE UNDERGROUND!!! > > > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 21:30:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23315 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 21:30:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 23304 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 21:30:09 -0000 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (140.142.33.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 21:30:09 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id OAA06345; Tue, 11 May 1999 14:30:06 -0700 Message-ID: <019101be9bf5$8c69f680$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: "Jay" , Subject: Re: State of the list & "UG"ness (Opinionated Rant ?) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:30:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Wow, what an echo of my own feelings. I really want to comment more thoroughly on it, but I think that it is said best here. I call is focused frustration. What I want to know is this: Can I quote that last sentence about vomiting/opinions? Struck a chord with me... Peace, Alexis PS I don't fear the penguins, I just visit http://www.yellow5.com/pokey/ Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- She wants a good life, No man to cause her pain and strife. -=- Cocoa Tea -----Original Message----- From: Jay To: sfraves@hyperreal.org ; leslie.ayres@excite.com ; Jan Setje-Eilers Date: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 2:08 PM Subject: State of the list & "UG"ness (Opinionated Rant ?) >Half of this list posts about how bad the scene has gotten and how, if "we" >don't care for it more, it will be destroyed. People complaining about PLUR >and anti-PLURness, drugs and tastes in music. Though I don't agree with a >lot of the negativity, that's the point of this list no ? To bring peoples >opinions and thoughts together... to bring us closer to understanding the >people that we party with and, hopefully, share so much in common with. I >love this list, even with the blatant stereotyping going around. > >What I do want to point out, is this: How many people are on this list ? >2000, 3000, 5000 ? I have no idea... but I do know that the _active_ >posters to this list comprise an extremely small percentage of the >attendance at parties. So if you complain, whine and bitch about this 14 >year old kid you saw doing E at the last party, what is it doing? If you >stop attending... you are only changing you, not other people. > >Lets take a massive for example. 15,000 people... loving the music, drugs >or what-have-you. How many of them care if the "destruction" of your once >glorious scene happens? The parties will still forge on, the attendance >will still peak and the producers who make the music will still make music >(which will be as epic as ever). I think its time that we learn that the >scene is rarely influenced by us, but rather _it_ itself influences us. >True, it may not be the same scene you remember just 2 years ago... but so >what ? Change happens everyday! We don't have to like it, or accept it, >but it happens (Shit... I get pissed off when they change my TV shows times >=)). > >This music has changed my life. You people have changed the way I think >about our generation (in a positive aspect). This list has given me the >freedom of expression that I want and deserve. I am not complaining, and >never will. What this scene has given me, no one can take away... not an >E-tard, gangster or cop. > >Words should be easy to swallow, even if harsh... don't shove your opinion >down the throat of people who will gladly vomit it back at you. Ok, I go >now... > >Love & Music, >-Jay >"Don't Fear The Penguins" > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 21:44:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8219 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 21:44:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 8122 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 21:43:53 -0000 Received: from nettapp.nettwerk.com (HELO budd.nettwerk.com) (209.17.154.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 21:43:53 -0000 Received: from [216.101.68.178] (adsl-216-101-68-178.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [216.101.68.178]) by budd.nettwerk.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA18317; Tue, 11 May 1999 14:40:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: william@mailhost.nettwerk.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990511081220.25545.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:46:14 -0800 To: SCiEnCe From: william godoy Subject: Re: NRR: Short list Top 10 all time albums. Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 1. Stone Roses-Stone Roses 2. Chemical Brothers-Exit Planet Dust 3. The Orb-Adventures Beyond... 4. The Boo Radleys-Kingsize 5. Spiritualized-Ladies and Gentlemen We... 6. Happy Mondays-Pills Thrills and Bellaches 7. The London Suede-Coming Up 8. Oasis-What's the Story... 9. The Verve-A Storm In Heaven 10.Catherine Wheel-Chrome From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 21:45:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9987 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 21:45:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 9856 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 21:45:20 -0000 Received: from sco.sco.com (132.147.128.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 21:45:20 -0000 Received: from novasco.sco.COM(132.147.178.252) via SMTP by sco.sco.COM, id smtpdAAAa000M-; Tue May 11 14:41:34 1999 Received: from lesleymo.sco.com by novasco.sco.com id aa23262; 11 May 99 14:31 PDT Message-ID: <3738A19B.F74BECDD@sco.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:31:07 -0700 From: Lesley Mortell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SCiEnCe CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: oh gosh check out this RA References: <19990511064359.5508.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk As long as it's not Hype from '92 when he sat in my car and talked solidly for 2 hours to The Hacienda in Manchester (oh look sheep !!) and then 1 hour back until we got stopped by the police. I know he makes great music but he was an annoying little sod. Lesley SCiEnCe wrote: > > http://vixen.simplenet.com/dark/music.htm > > LTJ Bukem from '92, Hype from '94... > Reminds you of what it used to be. > > -Science From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 21:53:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19269 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 21:53:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 19159 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 21:53:32 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 21:53:32 -0000 Received: from BreAthNYoO@aol.com (7997) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rEOJa20907; Tue, 11 May 1999 17:48:23 -0400 (EDT) From: BreAthNYoO@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 17:48:23 EDT Subject: Re: oh yeah ? Loatheoftherave To: youcantbewhatyouwere@yahoo.com, goodvibe@geocities.com, BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com CC: Sfraves@hyperreal.org, TeKnODiVa@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ROTFLMAO @ both of you.... ever heard the song * sad but troo?* lmao heherhehahahahahahahahehehehe. o my hahaha. Love andlight eSs In a message dated 99-05-11 17:25:37 EDT, youcantbewhatyouwere@yahoo.com writes: << --- Paul*E*Wog wrote: > Dude!!! For reals. I for one would like to say > something serious. I > HATE... HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE raves. Every time > some e-traded candy > trash bitch comes up and tries to hug me i feel like > pushing them on the > floor and ripping those nasty beads off their neck. > I hate ravers. espically those fashion victims who would wear the exact same outfit to 2 parties in the same week, climb trees, and give head to their wistles all day. goofy as fuck white boys with spotty complexions, lanky shoulders, sloppy dances, and the abscance of anything funky. what a damn shame. and don't even get me started on those botched red hair dye 'trash bitches'. oh, the horror - >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 21:54:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21145 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 21:54:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 21133 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 21:54:49 -0000 Received: from vm4-ext.prodigy.net (207.115.59.137) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 21:54:49 -0000 Received: from prodigy.net (SNFCB210-39.splitrock.net [209.156.149.154]) by vm4-ext.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA153620; Tue, 11 May 1999 17:54:42 -0400 Message-ID: <3738A660.112BCBE5@prodigy.net> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:51:28 -0700 From: JOELANZON Reply-To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: EQUIP: Turntable Purchase?? References: <19990511210307.17951.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk If the Guitar Center in El Cerrito has 1200's for $399 like they do here in Concord, then I suggest getting them there. That the lowest I've seen them in a LONG TIME! Thats like most stores cost. Anyone else remember the days when 1200's cost $250 bucks a piece? Ahh sweet times! -peace- Joe Lanzon Jeremy Bispo wrote: > hello, > > As my addiction grows stronger, to records that is, > my need for 1200's grows at the same rate. This > weekend, I'm gonna pick up my first technics. Now > this is where i need your help, I live in oakland/ > berkeley, where should I purchase the table. the > guitar center in el cerrito was just suggested?? any > clues?? > > === > Jeremy B. Bispo > Member Support Specialist > Cybergold, Inc. > 2921 Adeline > Berkeley CA 94703 > 510.845.5000 ext. 126 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 22:05:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1850 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 22:05:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 1808 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 22:04:58 -0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 22:04:58 -0000 Received: from fish.hooked.net (byoung@fish.hooked.net [206.80.6.48]) by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA14134; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:04:51 -0700 (PDT) From: boing X-Sender: byoung@fish.hooked.net To: JOELANZON cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: EQUIP: Turntable Purchase?? In-Reply-To: <3738A660.112BCBE5@prodigy.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 11 May 1999, JOELANZON wrote: > If the Guitar Center in El Cerrito has 1200's for $399 like they do here > in Concord, then I suggest getting them there. That the lowest I've > seen them in a LONG TIME! Thats like most stores cost. > i was thinking that now that mkiii is out, mkii price would go down a bit. anyone with experience with mkiii? from what i can tell, it's more/less mkii with center lock defeat - solution for a problem a lot of people have been whining about (and for so long 8-) not that i'll go and do the damage for mkiii anytime soon, but just curious. b- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 22:07:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3771 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 22:07:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 3536 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 22:06:59 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 22:06:59 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-47.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.47]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA19929; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:06:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990511204122.006bcbac@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:41:22 -0500 To: Kitana3737@aol.com From: Nuku Subject: Re: [[nrr]] negativity vs. reality.... was Re: "invite only parties"? Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 04:48 PM 5/11/99 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 5/11/99 4:30:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Space201@aol.com >writes: > ><< That didn't look to me like negativity, it looked more like reality. >> > >how many of you think that ^that^ *is* reality? >it`s something i`ve been thinking about lately... whether we operate in a >world where everything is presented to us glossed over in a shiny plastic >case, but the complete opposite of how everything really works..... > >we live our daily lives with a certain level of politeness presented to >acquaintances in our every day lives... politeness that may seem necessary >for things not to completely fall apart [somehow i don`t think politeness is >the word i want to use but i can`t think of another one...] we say hi to >people we despise, we are forced to deal with people we dislike, etc.... our >words are often white lies. Hrm I dunno about you , but if I don't like someone I simply ignore them or tell them I don't like them. I don't give them any inflection of emotion. Personally YOU have the choice of what you want to do. And if you take actions that you know will either aggrevate, upset, etc. other people and knowingly do this then you have made you bed and now you must lie in it. It seems to me like maybe you are living in a world you created and now you hate because what you made was false in the first place. And that happens to everyone. But anyhoo, my reasoning is..you always make your enviroment, if you feel like you are forced to do something you would not otherwise do then perhaps you should look at yourself and why you do those things. And for the next point i do not think leslie's post was negative at all. I think she was stating her own perception of why things were the way they were. Nuku > >how many of you think that this day to day type of operation isn`t the way >the world really is? it seems we are so shocked when we are presented with >news of behavior contrary to this shiny, smooth, perfect world we all operate >under, when in this mechanism we all understand that underneath things are >actually really fucked up. > >think : [this is an extreme case] you watch some children`s show on tv filled >with kids saying "yay. i love you. please. thank you.... etc." lead by some >shiny, smiley, happy adult hugging all the kids.... when probably that adult >goes home to his private life as a pedophile or something..... in direct >contrast to his day-time tv show job. > >i dunno maybe my sense of reality and propriety, etc. is really messed >up..... or maybe i just sat out in the sun too long today.. :P eh.... who >knows. :) okay. there`s my 2 cents. > >muchlove, >~*MiCheLLe*~ > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 22:18:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12946 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 22:18:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 12928 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 22:18:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 22:18:15 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 283 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:15:37 -0700 Message-ID: <3738ACBC.D62A7A16@hrg.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:18:36 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFraves peeps Subject: Funnies Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Subject: Ode to a frosty mug... I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day. * Frank Sinatra The problem with some people is that when they aren't drunk, they're sober. * William Butler Yeats An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools. * Ernest Hemingway Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut. * Ernest Hemingway You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on. * Dean Martin Drunk is feeling sophisticated when you can't say it. Anonymous No animal ever invented anything as bad as drunkenness - or as good as drink. * G.K. Chesterton Time is never wasted when you're wasted all the time. *Catherine Zandonella Abstainer: a weak person who yields to the temptation of denying himself a pleasure. * Ambrose Bierce Reality is an illusion that occurs due to lack of alcohol. * Anonymous Drinking provides a beautiful excuse to pursue the one activity that truly gives me pleasure, hooking up with fat hairy girls. * Ross Levy A woman drove me to drink and I didn't even have the decency to thank her. What contemptible scoundrel has stolen the cork to my lunch? * W.C. Fields Beauty lies in the hands of the beer holder. * Anonymous Work is the curse of the drinking classes. * Oscar Wilde When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading. * Henny Youngman BBUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRPPPP!!!!! * Booger, "Revenge of the Nerds" Life is a waste of time, time is a waste of life, so get wasted all of the time and have the time of your life. * Anonymous I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy. * Tom Waits 24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence? * Stephen Wright When we drink, we get drunk. When we get drunk, we fall asleep. When we fall asleep, we commit no sin. When we commit no sin, we go to heaven. Sooooo, let's all get drunk, and go to heaven... * Brian O'Rourke (After finding out he was having twins) Drinks are on the house!!!! * Brian Flanigan You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline-it helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer. * Frank Zappa Always remember that I have taken more out of alcohol than alcohol has taken out of me. * Winston Churchill He was a wise man who invented beer. * Plato Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. * Benjamin Franklin If you ever reach total enlightenment while drinking beer, I bet it makes beer shoot out your nose. * Deep Thought, Jack Handy Without question, the greatest invention in the history of mankind is beer. Oh, I grant you that the wheel was also a fine invention, but the wheel does not go nearly as well with pizza. * Dave Barry The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind. * Humphrey Bogart Why is American beer served cold? So you can tell it from urine. * David Moulton Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world. *Kaiser Wilhelm I've got a tip for selling more beer, fill the fookin' glass. * Tony Gallagher I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer. *Homer Simpson Not all chemicals are bad. Without chemicals such as hydrogen and oxygen, for example, there would be no way to make water, a vital ingredient in beer. * Dave Barry I drink to make other people interesting. * George Jean Nathan All right, brain, I don't like you and you don't like me so let's just do this and I'll get back to killing you with beer. *Homer Simpson God damn I want a beer now... john r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 22:26:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24424 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 22:26:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 24412 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 22:26:14 -0000 Received: from pimout2-ext.prodigy.net (HELO pimout2-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.59.113) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 22:26:14 -0000 Received: from prodigy.net (SNFCB210-39.splitrock.net [209.156.149.154]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA23538; Tue, 11 May 1999 18:26:07 -0400 Message-ID: <3738ADBE.82ED03D6@prodigy.net> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:22:54 -0700 From: JOELANZON Reply-To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: boing CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: EQUIP: Turntable Purchase?? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk boing wrote: > anyone with experience with mkiii? from what i can tell, it's more/less > mkii with center lock defeat - solution for a problem a lot of people have > been whining about (and for so long 8-) > Here's the info on the 1200MK3D SL1200MK3D (New Standard, Pitch Overide Button, Headshell Holder, recessed Power Switch, Silver) and the others out also- SL1200MK4 (3 Speeds 33,45,78 ; Black Finish w/gold accents and platinum tonearm and platter, gold plated RCA jacks instead of hardwired RCA's) SL1200MKLTD (Limited edition, shiny smooth black finish, gold platter and tonearm as well as gold highlights, pitch overide button) And the regular old 1200MK2s (silver and Black) The 1200MK2s might go down in price as they're supposed to be phasing them out. Might be the reason GC has them for so low. -peace- Joe Lanzon From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 22:29:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28390 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 22:29:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 28195 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 22:29:48 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 22:29:48 -0000 Received: from BBoiBreks@aol.com (7984) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rVVDa03215; Tue, 11 May 1999 18:16:31 -0400 (EDT) From: BBoiBreks@aol.com Message-ID: <268887da.246a063c@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 18:16:28 EDT Subject: Re: oh yeah ? To: youcantbewhatyouwere@yahoo.com, goodvibe@geocities.com, BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com CC: Sfraves@hyperreal.org, TeKnODiVa@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Oh dear, I sense a high degree of bitterness in your post. I'm sorry if you used to be one of those kids. I've never been there so I can only tell you of BaSsb1AtCh's experience. She used to be super candy and she used to carry around whistles and dabble in the are of glowstick twirling with her lesbian sidekick Bitchanca. Yeah, I met her this way and I thought that it was my duty as a the head of the Anti-cheese coalition to convert her. Wow, what a success story that was. And her lesbian sidekick, we'll, let's just say that she won't be coming back with glow-in-the-dark beads in her mouth anymore............ Personally, I love cheese heads, especially the ones that have gone to one "rave" and swear that they've been involved for years and that they know a dj through a friend of a cousin's ex girlfriend's sister in law who used to go to school with a promoter that introduced her to a 17 year old kid who spins house turned trance turned jungle. the head of the Anti Cheese coalition poser bboibreks P.S. if you would like to join this coalition to clean up our underground mess of cheese heads, please send a self addressed stamped envelop enclosed with $5, and i will send you a booklet on how to start a chapter in your own community. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 22:31:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1014 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 22:31:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 1006 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 22:31:31 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 22:31:31 -0000 Received: from user (AM5-68-52-213.ixpres.com [209.75.52.213]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA03701; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990511152710.006b1818@mail.ixpres.com> X-Sender: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:27:10 -0700 To: johnr@hrg.com, SFraves peeps From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: Re: Funnies In-Reply-To: <3738ACBC.D62A7A16@hrg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk A RIOT!!! I personally don't partake of the stuff but this made me laff! hugz & starz madhvi At 03:18 PM 5/11/99 -0700, John Rodriguez wrote: >Subject: Ode to a frosty mug... > >I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the >morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day. > * Frank Sinatra > >The problem with some people is that when they aren't drunk, they're >sober. > * William Butler Yeats > >An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with >his fools. * Ernest Hemingway > >Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to >keep your mouth shut. * Ernest Hemingway > >You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on. >* Dean Martin > >Drunk is feeling sophisticated when you can't say it. >Anonymous > >No animal ever invented anything as bad as drunkenness - or as good >as drink. * G.K. Chesterton > >Time is never wasted when you're wasted all the time. >*Catherine Zandonella > >Abstainer: a weak person who yields to the temptation of denying >himself a pleasure. * Ambrose Bierce > >Reality is an illusion that occurs due to lack of alcohol. * Anonymous > >Drinking provides a beautiful excuse to pursue the one activity that >truly gives me pleasure, hooking up with fat hairy girls. * Ross Levy > >A woman drove me to drink and I didn't even have the decency to thank >her. What contemptible scoundrel has stolen the cork to my lunch? >* W.C. Fields > >Beauty lies in the hands of the beer holder. * Anonymous > >Work is the curse of the drinking classes. * Oscar Wilde > >When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading. > * Henny Youngman > >BBUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRPPPP!!!!! > >* Booger, "Revenge of the Nerds" > >Life is a waste of time, time is a waste of life, so get wasted all of >the time and have the time of your life. * Anonymous > >I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy. * Tom >Waits > >24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence? * Stephen Wright > >When we drink, we get drunk. When we get drunk, we fall asleep. When we >fall asleep, we commit no sin. When we commit no sin, we go to heaven. >Sooooo, let's all get drunk, and go to heaven... * Brian O'Rourke > >(After finding out he was having twins) >Drinks are on the house!!!! * Brian Flanigan > >You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline-it >helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, > >but at the very least you need a beer. * Frank Zappa > >Always remember that I have taken more out of alcohol than alcohol has >taken out of me. * Winston Churchill > >He was a wise man who invented beer. * Plato > >Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. * Benjamin >Franklin > >If you ever reach total enlightenment while drinking beer, I bet it >makes beer shoot out your nose. * Deep Thought, Jack Handy > >Without question, the greatest invention in the history of mankind >is beer. Oh, I grant you that the wheel was also a fine invention, but >the wheel does not go nearly as well with pizza. * Dave Barry > >The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind. > * Humphrey Bogart > >Why is American beer served cold? So you can tell it from urine. >* David Moulton > >Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world. *Kaiser >Wilhelm > >I've got a tip for selling more beer, fill the fookin' glass. * Tony >Gallagher > >I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer. *Homer >Simpson > >Not all chemicals are bad. Without chemicals such as >hydrogen and oxygen, for example, there would be no way to make water, >a vital ingredient in beer. * Dave Barry > >I drink to make other people interesting. * George Jean Nathan > >All right, brain, I don't like you and you don't like me so let's >just do this and I'll get back to killing you with beer. *Homer Simpson > > > >God damn I want a beer now... >john r > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 22:35:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4254 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 22:35:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 4223 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 22:35:41 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 22:35:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19990511222906.25140.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.240] by attach1; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:29:06 PDT Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:29:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: Re: EQUIP: Turntable Purchase?? To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net, boing Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I just got off the phone w/ Leo's in oakland on Telegraph. They quoted me $532.00 plus tax for the 1200mk2, including needle. Or $339.00, each for 2 1200mk2 fixed by there in house repair tech. those come w/ a 30 day money back guarentee. Then I called Guitar Center in El Cerrito, and was quoted 1000 for 2 1200 mk3, but you would have to place an order and they will be in in 3 weeks. Anyone have a suggestions on what I should do? or any other places to look....I'm thinking i'd rather purchase them new. thanks for any help. =)jer === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 22:36:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4341 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 22:35:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 4267 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 22:35:49 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 22:35:49 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-c3 (mmf12.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.82]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA07911; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:35:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905112235.PAA07911@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com From: "Rafie" Subject: RE: Passions for your genre:pick just one!! CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:38:21 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Welp, first there was Trance. Way before I went to raves I liked any music that had a repetitive beat, or was electronic sounding, no matter how corny the song was -- be it remixes of mainstream songs, Hi NRG, Eurocheese, or Israeli pop music. Anyway, Trance was my fave for quite a while and I still like listening to it, but I have come to the realization that 95% of it is just too rapid to keep up with unless you are on drugs and the cheesy happ-e melodies inspire you to keep dancing. Deep, dark, hard robotic trance/techno is great however...but where is it!? Now, give me some hard house or dark tech-house at any rave! None of that bootsy diva "mah lovahs gotta have some respect mmm fo mah bootay.." shit. Oldschool ghetto house is good tho', just cause it's so funny. And DARK SPEED GARAGE!! It's SOOOO good, but its hard to find a gem amidst all that cheesy speed garage out there that gives the real stuff a bad name. As of late I'm liking Happycore and Drum n Bass more and more..(I've always liked 'em but some adjustments have to be made for dancing). "Sunshine" and that song that goes "Come now and follow me, to my longest fantasy, come now-- oh wait it's called "Burning Love." They're my tops. Happy Hardcore rooms at parties are like little microcosms within the rest of the rave, of freaky cartoon kids gettin jiggy to the songs of smurfs who have just smoked some crack. Oh yeah, and I like Delta-9 (gabber) since someone played it for me in my car the other day. It was cool, cause it was like chanting "FUCK YOU FUCK YOU UP THE ASS MOTHERFUCKER BITCH DIE! DIE! SATAN! MOTHER FUCKER! BURN BITCH-SLUT BURN! SATANSATANSATAN! DIE! FUCK YOU UP THE ARSE!!" but it was in a really cute chipmunk voice. Rafie On Mon, 10 May 1999 18:18:51 EDT, TeKnODiVa@aol.com wrote... >AH... I guess i became the tekno diva, not through a love of Tekno, persay, >but through a love of electronic music in general. >HOW do I decide?? How do I narrow my horizons down to one genre when there >is such a vast expanse of electronic beats to tug on my heartstrings?? > > and it began with TRANCE: > That melody, that beat, kiss the sky arms in the air. POUND YOUR FIST. >If >I was to explain trance to anyone I would say that you close your eyes and >FEEL the music because it carries you and as a listener/raver/dancer >whatever >you have to ride the sound and be one with it. Dancing comes as a >knee-jerk >reaction after you've learned to feel the music. Your body can't be >stopped. > Originally I loved goa and all psychedelic trance... (why I wanted to be a >dj) Listen to Daniel from Moontribe's "SPIRAL DANCE" tape. Those >breakdowns??? > > Then I got a tape from a very special dj named Rinse. Hardstep jungle. >ANd i was again converted. After attending Lara's school of How to dance >to >Jungle, I became enthralled with jump-up, hip hop, hardstep and techstep. >A >LOT OF JUMP UP. It's got a different feel that I like to have in the early >morning or when I'm sick of lots of bouncy kids. Like jamalski says, >"LISTEN! it's dark and it's scary but it's UNITY!" I think my favorite >jungle moment was at the first Skills afterparty (what was it called? >Green? >those kids from CZ threw it in Oakland) and I fell asleep.. when I woke up >Rock the FUnky beats had JUST been dropped and even though there were only >200 people there all of a sudden the record went, "SOMEBODY IN THE HOUSE >SAY >HELL YEAH!!" and every person shot to attention and screamed "HELL YEAH!" >I >don't know where it came from but cool stuff like that can only happen with >jungle. Nothing puts me into a frenzy like that. > > Then there was HOUSE: My love of moving to the music progressed into a >more vocal form of electronic style. Bouncier, less melodic, but still >hard >and fast, house is my soul right now. Booty house, Some of the progressive >stuff... and I don't know... HOUSE HOUSE HOUSe... > > then there's techno.. and ambient and funky cross-genres and SPEED GARAGE >which is really cool if you find some random record, >and of course > > >Happy Hardcore!! I can't say much about this except that it is the most >beautiful thing in the world, because singing the words to these anthems in >a >group of kids is amazing. I took two people to their first party and I >actually got them in front of a speaker while Paulina taylor was spinning >and >sang to them. Then after the party I gave them a copy of his tape and they >cherished that song. It was amazing. Force and styles "Heart of Gold" at >love a fair.. can I say more?? > > ACK! i'm getting myself excited just talking about all of this. I >guess >that's why I party.. my passion for the music, and i don't have to get >tired >because the music goes in cycles and there's always new cross-genres being >made... Passion for the music, that's all there is... Look deeply. love >strongly. dance hard. > > hugs n'stuff, >trice the tekno diva > > "The rythym is around me. > The rythym has control. > The rythym is inside me. > The rythym has my soul." > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 22:37:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5780 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 22:37:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 5641 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 22:36:57 -0000 Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (209.185.123.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 22:36:57 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by angelfire.com; Tue May 11 15:36:24 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, "SCiEnCe" Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:36:24 -0700 From: "Electric Joy Boy" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: ejoyboy@hotmail.com X-Sent-Mail: on Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: NRR: Short list Top 10 all time albums. X-Sender-Ip: 206.66.135.218 Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ben's top 10: 1. A Man Called Adam Duende 2. Indigo Girls Indigo Girls 3. React 2 Rythm Intoxication 4. William Orbit (Torchsong) Into the Unknown region 5. Joy Electric Melody 6. William Orbit (Strange Cargo)Hinterland 7. Arvo Part Magnificat 8. Happy Mondays Pills n Thrill & Belly Aches 9. Sade Love Deluxe 10. World Party Good Bye Jumbo um... 11. Bill Withers Lean on Me 12. Hildegard Von Bingen Canticles of Ecstasy 13. Sinead O'Connor Universal Mother Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 22:40:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10234 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 22:40:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 10014 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 22:40:07 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 22:40:07 -0000 Received: from [192.68.228.2] (HELO mattdntbusapp) by mogwaicom.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 2.9b5) with SMTP id 640175; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:41:35 -0700 Message-ID: <00f201be9bff$3c03cb80$162b0a0a@efi.com> From: To: , "boing" Cc: References: <3738ADBE.82ED03D6@prodigy.net> Subject: Re: EQUIP: Turntable Purchase?? Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:40:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ----- Original Message ----- From: JOELANZON To: boing Cc: Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 3:22 PM Subject: Re: EQUIP: Turntable Purchase?? > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > boing wrote: > > > anyone with experience with mkiii? from what i can tell, it's more/less > > mkii with center lock defeat - solution for a problem a lot of people have > > been whining about (and for so long 8-) > > > > Here's the info on the 1200MK3D > > SL1200MK3D (New Standard, Pitch Overide Button, Headshell Holder, > recessed Power Switch, Silver) > > and the others out also- > > SL1200MK4 (3 Speeds 33,45,78 ; Black Finish w/gold accents and platinum > tonearm and platter, gold plated RCA jacks instead of hardwired RCA's) Well i't about time they did that! I have had to replace the cables on many deck, cuz the previous design sucked! > > SL1200MKLTD (Limited edition, shiny smooth black finish, gold platter and > tonearm as well as gold highlights, pitch overide button) > > And the regular old 1200MK2s (silver and Black) > > The 1200MK2s might go down in price as they're supposed to be phasing them > out. Might be the reason GC has them for so low. > > -peace- Joe Lanzon Since you seem to be the man, with all the info....wanna give the breakdown on the pricing of each model :-o} Matt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 22:46:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15747 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 22:46:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 15735 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 22:46:27 -0000 Received: from web805.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 22:46:27 -0000 Message-ID: <19990511225110.4532.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web805.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:51:10 PDT Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:51:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: Funnies To: Madhvi Dalal , johnr@hrg.com, SFraves peeps MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Your right, this was a funny one, my particular favorite: >Why is American beer served cold? So you can tell it from urine. >* David Moulton Ummm thank you :) --- Madhvi Dalal wrote: > A RIOT!!! I personally don't partake of the stuff > but this made me laff! > > > hugz & starz > > madhvi > > > > > > > At 03:18 PM 5/11/99 -0700, John Rodriguez wrote: > >Subject: Ode to a frosty mug... > > > >I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they > wake up in the > >morning, that's as good as they're going to feel > all day. > > * Frank Sinatra > > > >The problem with some people is that when they > aren't drunk, they're > >sober. > > * William Butler Yeats > > > >An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk > to spend time with > >his fools. * Ernest Hemingway > > > >Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That > will teach you to > >keep your mouth shut. * Ernest Hemingway > > > >You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor > without holding on. > >* Dean Martin > > > >Drunk is feeling sophisticated when you can't say > it. > >Anonymous > > > >No animal ever invented anything as bad as > drunkenness - or as good > >as drink. * G.K. Chesterton > > > >Time is never wasted when you're wasted all the > time. > >*Catherine Zandonella > > > >Abstainer: a weak person who yields to the > temptation of denying > >himself a pleasure. * Ambrose Bierce > > > >Reality is an illusion that occurs due to lack of > alcohol. * Anonymous > > > >Drinking provides a beautiful excuse to pursue the > one activity that > >truly gives me pleasure, hooking up with fat hairy > girls. * Ross Levy > > > >A woman drove me to drink and I didn't even have > the decency to thank > >her. What contemptible scoundrel has stolen the > cork to my lunch? > >* W.C. Fields > > > >Beauty lies in the hands of the beer holder. * > Anonymous > > > >Work is the curse of the drinking classes. * Oscar > Wilde > > > >When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up > reading. > > * Henny Youngman > > > >BBUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRPPPP!!!!! > > > >* Booger, "Revenge of the Nerds" > > > >Life is a waste of time, time is a waste of life, > so get wasted all of > >the time and have the time of your life. * > Anonymous > > > >I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a > frontal lobotomy. * Tom > >Waits > > > >24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence? > * Stephen Wright > > > >When we drink, we get drunk. When we get drunk, we > fall asleep. When we > >fall asleep, we commit no sin. When we commit no > sin, we go to heaven. > >Sooooo, let's all get drunk, and go to heaven... * > Brian O'Rourke > > > >(After finding out he was having twins) > >Drinks are on the house!!!! * Brian Flanigan > > > >You can't be a real country unless you have a beer > and an airline-it > >helps if you have some kind of a football team, or > some nuclear weapons, > > > >but at the very least you need a beer. * Frank > Zappa > > > >Always remember that I have taken more out of > alcohol than alcohol has > >taken out of me. * Winston Churchill > > > >He was a wise man who invented beer. * Plato > > > >Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be > happy. * Benjamin > >Franklin > > > >If you ever reach total enlightenment while > drinking beer, I bet it > >makes beer shoot out your nose. * Deep Thought, > Jack Handy > > > >Without question, the greatest invention in the > history of mankind > >is beer. Oh, I grant you that the wheel was also a > fine invention, but > >the wheel does not go nearly as well with pizza. * > Dave Barry > > > >The problem with the world is that everyone is a > few drinks behind. > > * Humphrey Bogart > > > >Why is American beer served cold? So you can tell > it from urine. > >* David Moulton > > > >Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer > the world. *Kaiser > >Wilhelm > > > >I've got a tip for selling more beer, fill the > fookin' glass. * Tony > >Gallagher > > > >I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of > sweet beer. *Homer > >Simpson > > > >Not all chemicals are bad. Without chemicals such > as > >hydrogen and oxygen, for example, there would be > no way to make water, > >a vital ingredient in beer. * Dave Barry > > > >I drink to make other people interesting. * George > Jean Nathan > > > >All right, brain, I don't like you and you don't > like me so let's > >just do this and I'll get back to killing you with > beer. *Homer Simpson > > > > > > > >God damn I want a beer now... > >john r > > > > > > > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 22:48:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18696 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 22:48:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 18686 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 22:48:48 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd94.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.158) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 22:48:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 62109 invoked by uid 0); 11 May 1999 22:48:21 -0000 Message-ID: <19990511224821.62108.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.251.193.60 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:48:21 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.251.193.60] From: "ve anne" To: BBoiBreks@aol.com, youcantbewhatyouwere@yahoo.com, goodvibe@geocities.com, BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com Cc: Sfraves@hyperreal.org, TeKnODiVa@aol.com Subject: Re: oh yeah ? Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 22:48:21 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk DUDE, you need cheese. devil worshipping and E don't mix. cheese, trance and E mix. just like pot and jungle :) veanne president of the procheese and candE ravers coalition From: BBoiBreks@aol.com To: youcantbewhatyouwere@yahoo.com, goodvibe@geocities.com, BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com CC: Sfraves@hyperreal.org, TeKnODiVa@aol.com Subject: Re: oh yeah ? Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 18:16:28 EDT Oh dear, I sense a high degree of bitterness in your post. I'm sorry if you used to be one of those kids. I've never been there so I can only tell you of BaSsb1AtCh's experience. She used to be super candy and she used to carry around whistles and dabble in the are of glowstick twirling with her lesbian sidekick Bitchanca. Yeah, I met her this way and I thought that it was my duty as a the head of the Anti-cheese coalition to convert her. Wow, what a success story that was. And her lesbian sidekick, we'll, let's just say that she won't be coming back with glow-in-the-dark beads in her mouth anymore............ Personally, I love cheese heads, especially the ones that have gone to one "rave" and swear that they've been involved for years and that they know a dj through a friend of a cousin's ex girlfriend's sister in law who used to go to school with a promoter that introduced her to a 17 year old kid who spins house turned trance turned jungle. the head of the Anti Cheese coalition poser bboibreks P.S. if you would like to join this coalition to clean up our underground mess of cheese heads, please send a self addressed stamped envelop enclosed with $5, and i will send you a booklet on how to start a chapter in your own community. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 22:54:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23222 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 22:54:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 23166 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 22:54:24 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 22:54:24 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-c3 (mmf12.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.82]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA27758; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905112254.PAA27758@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: BBoiBreks@aol.com From: "Rafie" Subject: Re: oh yeah ? CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:57:17 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk "Anti-Cheese Coalition" my ass!! You are the king of the cheeses! Prince of ricotta! Duke of bree! COUNT OF LIMBURGER!!! Believe you me, Sonny-boy, your little wanna-be b-boy antics which include dancing like you are a schitzophrenic seagull without depth-perception and whoring yourself in front of the portapotties @ HomeBass for a "$5 suckie-suckie" make you one of the cheesiest ever! And those pants that you made, and showed to me at Dubphonic on Sat. night, with the two big holes revealing both butt-cheeks and quick velcro access to your crotch...yeah, those were really cool! And going to Acid Breaks 3 to sell your excess PCP! Just go back to the circus where you belong! Rafie PS- and when the circus is over take up residency in the zoo On Tue, 11 May 1999 18:16:28 EDT, BBoiBreks@aol.com wrote... >Oh dear, I sense a high degree of bitterness in your post. I'm sorry if you >used to be one of those kids. I've never been there so I can only tell you >of >BaSsb1AtCh's experience. She used to be super candy and she used to carry >around whistles and dabble in the are of glowstick twirling with her >lesbian >sidekick Bitchanca. Yeah, I met her this way and I thought that it was my >duty as a the head of the Anti-cheese coalition to convert her. Wow, what a >success story that was. And her lesbian sidekick, we'll, let's just say >that >she won't be coming back with glow-in-the-dark beads in her mouth >anymore............ >Personally, I love cheese heads, especially the ones that have gone to one >"rave" and swear that they've been involved for years and that they know a >dj >through a friend of a cousin's ex girlfriend's sister in law who used to go >to school with a promoter that introduced her to a 17 year old kid who >spins >house turned trance turned jungle. > >the head of the Anti Cheese coalition poser >bboibreks > >P.S. >if you would like to join this coalition to clean up our underground mess >of >cheese heads, please send a self addressed stamped envelop enclosed with >$5, >and i will send you a booklet on how to start a chapter in your own >community. > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 22:54:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23228 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 22:54:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 23161 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 22:54:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 22:54:21 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 281; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:51:36 -0700 Message-ID: <3738B526.AB1CAFE8@hrg.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:54:30 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org CC: JOELANZON@prodigy.net, boing , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: EQUIP: Turntable Purchase?? References: <19990511222906.25140.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Leos has a great bunch of techs (also really freakin expensive). Refurbished decks from them wouldnt be to bad of an idea, Technics use very good components, and theres only a few areas you need to worry about. My guess would be that used decks from Leo's would be a really safe buy. The things you need to check on 12s over time: Pitch adjusts - these would probably be new as they only cost 25 bucks apiece. tone arms - theyd definitly tighten these before selling lights- again a simple easy fix, they probably just put in new ones. power switch /33-45 rpm buttons - another cheap simple fix for them Jeremy Bispo wrote: > Greetings, > > I just got off the phone w/ Leo's in oakland on > Telegraph. They quoted me $532.00 plus tax for the > 1200mk2, including needle. Or $339.00, each for 2 > 1200mk2 fixed by there in house repair tech. those > come w/ a 30 day money back guarentee. > > Then I called Guitar Center in El Cerrito, and was > quoted 1000 for 2 1200 mk3, but you would have to > place an order and they will be in in 3 weeks. Anyone > have a suggestions on what I should do? > > or any other places to look....I'm thinking i'd > rather purchase them new. thanks for any help. > > =)jer > > === > Jeremy B. Bispo > Member Support Specialist > Cybergold, Inc. > 2921 Adeline > Berkeley CA 94703 > 510.845.5000 ext. 126 -- John Rodriguez Balance Productions http://www.SFHouse.com JohnR@SFHouse.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 23:06:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1141 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 23:06:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 1124 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 23:06:08 -0000 Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.12) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 23:06:08 -0000 Received: from totoro1.earthlink.net (pool001-cvx.ds63-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.198.1]) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA05101 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:06:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990511160630.007b9320@earthlink.net> X-Sender: totoro1@earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:06:30 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: totoro1@earthlink.net Subject: Trading Mixtapes? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Greetings all, sorry for this spam, but would anyone like to trade mixtapes? I would really like a hook-up to the SF scene's DJ's mixtapes..esp: Tony, Spun, Moon-pup, Carlos..etc.. Check out my list at my website: http://home.earthlink.net/~totoro1/ Peace- John From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 23:09:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4839 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 23:09:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 4824 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 23:09:56 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 23:09:56 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EADF6J3B; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:09:46 EDT To: psober@geocities.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:10:17 -0700 Subject: Re: Free TiXXX Message-ID: <19990511.161356.-179841.6.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-4,6-35 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Is it true that there's a Happy 2b Hardcore 3? Peace, Theresa On Tue, 11 May 1999 06:50:42 -0700 Paul Sober writes: >title: Eleven Asako artist: Avalon label: (i'm guessing here) >tunnel? > >ok, i dont know if that release is fast enough to be happy hardcore, >but >it's fast, and pumping, check out the tunnel trance force volume six >disk >two. i've listenned to that a thousand times and i still didn't know >what >that squeeky voice was saying. do i get to go to thunderdome?! > >paul > >DJ climaXXX wrote: > >> I was referring to the subject line in my previous message. >> "Back once again with the renegade master...beatforce damager, >nothing >> can save ya, can you feel it, with the ill-behavior...all for the >> renegade amster...outta here!" >> what is the title of the track, artist, and record label? first one >> to answer correctly gets a free ticket to Thunderdome... >> DJ climaXXX ;^) >> PS-I'm looking for teh HAPPYHARDCORE release! >> >> === >> "But what is the speed of dark?" > > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 23:13:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8637 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 23:13:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 8555 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 23:13:05 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd90.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.154) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 23:13:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 9813 invoked by uid 0); 11 May 1999 23:13:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990511231309.9812.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 204.160.32.13 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:13:09 PDT X-Originating-IP: [204.160.32.13] From: "Eric Vandenbroek" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Free TiXXX Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:13:09 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Unfortuanlly yes it is true Me >From: dadope@juno.com >To: psober@geocities.com >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: Free TiXXX >Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:10:17 -0700 > >Is it true that there's a Happy 2b Hardcore 3? > >Peace, >Theresa > >On Tue, 11 May 1999 06:50:42 -0700 Paul Sober >writes: > >title: Eleven Asako artist: Avalon label: (i'm guessing here) > >tunnel? > > > >ok, i dont know if that release is fast enough to be happy hardcore, > >but > >it's fast, and pumping, check out the tunnel trance force volume six > >disk > >two. i've listenned to that a thousand times and i still didn't know > >what > >that squeeky voice was saying. do i get to go to thunderdome?! > > > >paul > > > >DJ climaXXX wrote: > > > >> I was referring to the subject line in my previous message. > >> "Back once again with the renegade master...beatforce damager, > >nothing > >> can save ya, can you feel it, with the ill-behavior...all for the > >> renegade amster...outta here!" > >> what is the title of the track, artist, and record label? first one > >> to answer correctly gets a free ticket to Thunderdome... > >> DJ climaXXX ;^) > >> PS-I'm looking for teh HAPPYHARDCORE release! > >> > >> === > >> "But what is the speed of dark?" > > > > > >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 23:24:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20054 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 23:24:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 19846 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 23:24:20 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 23:24:20 -0000 Received: from HppyXTC@aol.com (15551) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vVYa006446 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:22:32 -0400 (EDT) From: HppyXTC@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:22:31 EDT Subject: Why I love raves To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk All this negativity about the different parts of raves that make up the whole scene have really got me thinking. What do I love about parties? Why do I keep going? What makes them different from anything else? Well, since the first time I ever went to a party, I have loved them. Granted, not every party is great. But they all have something special about them. What touches me the most about them (beyond kick ass music) is the fact that, regardless of the number, people are coming together for a purpose. The purpose may vary among those people, but for the most part, the purpose is to have a good time. When I look around at a party and see lots of people smiling, it makes me smile. Knowing that so many people in one place are happy is a such a good feeling. In our society today, there is so much division over STUPID things! In the rave scene, you have all ages, all races, all walks of life and again (for the most part), these people are all getting along and there for the same purpose. To put people down for how they are dressing or the fact that they come up to you and smile or try to hug you is sad. More and more I see that snobby attitude at parties. And it is really a sad thing. The whole intent of raves (or so I thought) was to have a place to go where whoever you are you are accepted. You can't find that kind of open love anywhere anymore (except maybe a cult or a commune of some type). I have met so many wonderful people at raves. It never occured to me to be offended by the fact that they didnt quite match, or they wore too many beads or they were a different race then me or that they looked like they had never been to a party before, or that they were taking e or anything like that. I try to judge people by how they treat other people. My god, what if someone saw me when i wasnt dressed to go party?? Maybe they wouldn't like me anymore. You know what?? I know for a fact I do NOT want a friend that judges people that harshly or with those standards. No one is perfect, and I know that if I was held up to that kind of standard I would fail. Because we are all people, we will never be perfect. All those who think they are, think again. Remember PLUR and practice it. And for those who disagree with PLUR, at least try to be a nice person! We all could stand to see those immortal ravers smile! Love, Heather From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 23:24:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20272 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 23:24:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 20036 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 23:24:25 -0000 Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (209.185.123.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 23:24:25 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by angelfire.com; Tue May 11 16:21:30 1999 To: psober@geocities.com, dadope@juno.com Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:21:30 -0700 From: "Electric Joy Boy" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org X-Sent-Mail: on Reply-To: X-Expiredinmiddle: true X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Oh yeah, Happy 2b Hardcore, was Re: Free TiXXX X-Sender-Ip: 206.66.135.218 Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah the Cheez (and the candy) Maybe all you Kandi-haters should mellow out. Re: Happy 2b hardcore III, I just got it over the weekend an ah like it, ah like it a lot. ****** copied from the moonshine website 1. Unique "Distant Skies" 2. Bang! "Break Of Dawn" 3. Brisk & Trixxy "Eurolove" 4. Triple J "Wonderful World" 5. Trixxy "Sunrize" 6. Visa "Don't Go Away" 7. Bang! "Shooting Star" 8. Innovate "Innovate" 9. Sy & Demo "Sensation" "Sensation! Sensation! Can U feeeel it? I can feel it for ever and ever!) 10.DJ Slam "Till We Meet Again" 11.Kingsize & Eternitym "You Belong To Me" 12.Sy & Demo "Tears Run Cold" 13.Demo & Ad Man "Pleasure and Pain" 14.Brisk & Trixxy "Eyeopener" 15.Hyperactive "Let Me Play" -- On Tue, 11 May 1999 16:10:17 dadope wrote: >Is it true that there's a Happy 2b Hardcore 3? > >Peace, >Theresa > >> >> > >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 23:37:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 679 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 23:37:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 671 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 23:37:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aspen.sc-intl.com) (207.218.171.40) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 23:37:11 -0000 Received: by ASPEN with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <2086QH55>; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:39:36 -0700 Message-ID: <756B30A53DCBD111BABC00A0C981D46372AD2C@ASPEN> From: "Ball, Tera" To: "'SFRaves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: happy Hardcore Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:39:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I was just wondering what everyone's fascination with Happy Hardcore is! It is impossible to dance to, it sounds like techno on crack. It makes me feel sick! Who ever started this probably did on accident by spinning his record too fast. If any one could give me one good reason why they like this music I would much appreciate it! Thanx. Have a bitchin' day. Tera From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 23:41:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3798 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 23:41:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 3752 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 23:41:37 -0000 Received: from web122.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.57) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 23:41:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990511234503.5514.rocketmail@web122.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.54.30] by web122.yahoomail.com; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:45:03 PDT Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:45:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: happy Hardcore To: "Ball, Tera" , "'SFRaves@hyperreal.org'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I was wondering this too. I tried to accept it. Nope. It is sugar-coated EVIL!!! I was at a happy hardcore party this past weekend and was only saved by the Jungle Djs. *HUGZ* pat Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 23:43:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5650 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 23:43:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 5642 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 23:43:36 -0000 Received: from pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (HELO pimout1-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.58.53) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 23:43:36 -0000 Received: from prodigy.net (SNFCB210-33.splitrock.net [209.156.149.148]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA73776; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:43:21 -0400 Message-ID: <3738BFD8.4937805E@prodigy.net> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:40:08 -0700 From: JOELANZON Reply-To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vipassana@warmth.org CC: boing , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: EQUIP: Turntable Purchase?? References: <3738ADBE.82ED03D6@prodigy.net> <00f201be9bff$3c03cb80$162b0a0a@efi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Prices are expensive on every model except the MK2 and 3D's. The MK4s run $700 bucks a piece, and the Special Edition Ones (if you can find them now) run for $1000 bucks a piece. The MK2's are a cheaper than the MK3D's now. By the way I agree with Leo's being a pretty safe buy for used 1200's. 1200's in general are rugged beasts of turntables. My friend has a pair that are 20 years old and they work like champs, and the only thing he's had to replace are the basics like lamps and patch cords. The pitch was replaced like 8 years ago! Also at Guitar Center you were quoted a thousand bucks but if you tell them you've seen them elsewhere for cheaper than they will give you a better price. Tell them you seen them at the GC store in Concord for $399 a piece. They have to match there store, Concord is there flagship store in Cali by the way. -peace- Joe Lanzon vipassana@warmth.org wrote: > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: JOELANZON > To: boing > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 3:22 PM > Subject: Re: EQUIP: Turntable Purchase?? > > > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > > boing wrote: > > > > > anyone with experience with mkiii? from what i can tell, it's more/less > > > mkii with center lock defeat - solution for a problem a lot of people > have > > > been whining about (and for so long 8-) > > > > > > > Here's the info on the 1200MK3D > > > > SL1200MK3D (New Standard, Pitch Overide Button, Headshell Holder, > > recessed Power Switch, Silver) > > > > and the others out also- > > > > SL1200MK4 (3 Speeds 33,45,78 ; Black Finish w/gold accents and platinum > > tonearm and platter, > > gold plated RCA jacks instead of hardwired RCA's) > > Well i't about time they did that! I have had to replace the cables on many > deck, cuz the previous > design sucked! > > > > > SL1200MKLTD (Limited edition, shiny smooth black finish, gold platter and > > tonearm as well as gold highlights, pitch overide button) > > > > And the regular old 1200MK2s (silver and Black) > > > > The 1200MK2s might go down in price as they're supposed to be phasing > them > > out. Might be the reason GC has them for so low. > > > > -peace- Joe Lanzon > > Since you seem to be the man, with all the info....wanna give the breakdown > on the pricing of each model :-o} > > Matt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 23:45:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6757 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 23:45:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 6743 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 23:45:39 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 23:45:39 -0000 Received: from Kalika1196@aol.com (7815) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLFNa02293 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:40:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Kalika1196@aol.com Message-ID: <1ba5a680.246a19f4@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:40:36 EDT Subject: NRR: (sort of) any trance wavs??? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey.. i was wonderin if anyone has any good trance wavs that tehy;d want to send my way... it be greatly appreciated! thanks!!! love, hugs, and vapor rub, trisha you could privately send them to me... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 23:52:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12755 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 23:52:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 12639 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 23:52:45 -0000 Received: from wya-oe4.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 23:52:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 10865 invoked by uid 0); 11 May 1999 23:53:56 -0000 Message-ID: <19990511235356.10864.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 204.160.32.13 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:53:56 PDT X-Originating-IP: [204.160.32.13] From: "Eric Vandenbroek" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: happy Hardcore Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:53:56 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Happy hardcore is a) annoying b) sounds better with out the cheese vocals c) sounds better with a more darker overtone to it d) Faster is always better. Personally I don't like happy hardcore at all. Hardcore and gabber all the way =) Me >From: "Ball, Tera" >To: "'SFRaves@hyperreal.org'" >Subject: happy Hardcore >Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:39:29 -0700 > >I was just wondering what everyone's fascination with Happy Hardcore is! >It is impossible to dance to, it sounds like techno on crack. It makes >me feel sick! Who ever started this probably did on accident by >spinning his record too fast. If any one could give me one good reason >why they like this music I would much appreciate it! Thanx. Have a >bitchin' day. >Tera From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 11 23:54:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16111 invoked by uid 6000); 11 May 1999 23:54:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 15830 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 23:54:24 -0000 Received: from f49.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.60) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 23:54:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 96970 invoked by uid 0); 11 May 1999 23:53:57 -0000 Message-ID: <19990511235357.96969.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.227.43.13 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:53:53 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.227.43.13] From: "Fruit Cup" To: Kalika1196@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: (sort of) any trance wavs??? Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:53:53 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk heya kalika, you don't want WAV files to play on your PC - they're too fat! (as in FAT, not PHAT) a 5 min. song takes up like 50MB on your hard drive, and would take forever to download. what you want is MP3 formatted music, which is like 1/10th the size of WAVs. go to www.winamp.com to download the MP3 player, and then you're all set to go! go to www.mp3.com to learn about it & d/l some songs. i'm in the process of perfecting the art of saving trance mixes from shoutcast servers (streaming MP3 mixes - www.shoutcast.com) to my hard drive and then burning them to CD...=) -fruit *** rooty tooty fresh 'n fruity *** From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 00:02:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24470 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 00:02:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 24071 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 00:02:00 -0000 Received: from mail.cwo.com (209.210.78.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 00:02:00 -0000 Received: from workstation4.cwo.com (office.cwo.com [209.210.78.29]) by mail.cwo.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA10142 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 17:02:00 -0700 Message-ID: <004901be9c0a$dbbc2860$0b01a8c0@cwo.com> From: "Permanent Press" To: "Sac Raves" Subject: just trying to post Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 17:03:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0046_01BE9BD0.2F341D80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01BE9BD0.2F341D80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable trying to post to the list, thanks for being patient ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01BE9BD0.2F341D80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0046_01BE9BD0.2F341D80-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 00:02:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25710 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 00:02:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 25537 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 00:02:39 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 00:02:39 -0000 Received: from Abbo1234@aol.com (4424) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iRWYa04813; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:54:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Abbo1234@aol.com Message-ID: <2ebbea1.246a1d3e@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:54:38 EDT Subject: Re: happy Hardcore To: tball@aspenmg.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I like happy hardcore because it makes me happy! Abby From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 00:06:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29946 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 00:06:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 29928 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 00:05:57 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 00:05:57 -0000 Received: from Gammbino@aol.com (230) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vFGa020904 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 20:04:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Gammbino@aol.com Message-ID: <68212b4c.246a1f95@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 20:04:37 EDT Subject: Some Marijuna on News To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey everyone I just had to write this.. Sorry about that anyways I turn the TV on and saw this thing about bud and they had bag loads of Weed!!! Oh my gosh =P anyways why arrest people for having it if it's Perscribed by a Dr.??? Damn the Gov.. Think about it the made Booze illeagal and then made it legal after people started drinking and making it underground so they should make Bud legal..Ehh I don't mean for everyone to get all upset if you do Jus had to say my lil ole say on it. Well Have a nice Eve!!! Party with tha Beatz and Vibez!! ^v^Kent From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 00:13:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7955 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 00:13:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 7723 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 00:13:31 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 00:13:31 -0000 Received: from XXxHaiLx@aol.com (8059) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rQAUa26068; Tue, 11 May 1999 20:07:07 -0400 (EDT) From: XXxHaiLx@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 20:07:09 EDT Subject: Re: happy Hardcore To: montereypat@yahoo.com, tball@aspenmg.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk If u were at a happy hardcore party why were there jungle djs there? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 00:17:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11625 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 00:17:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 11615 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 00:17:28 -0000 Received: from zeus.digidesign.com (HELO digidesign.com) (199.182.65.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 00:17:28 -0000 Received: from earthlink.net ([152.165.137.67]) by digidesign.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA11824; Tue, 11 May 1999 17:16:39 -0700 Message-ID: <3738C7F1.A989A9F@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 17:14:41 -0700 From: Chris Gill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net CC: vipassana@warmth.org, boing , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: EQUIP: Turntable Purchase?? References: <3738ADBE.82ED03D6@prodigy.net> <00f201be9bff$3c03cb80$162b0a0a@efi.com> <3738BFD8.4937805E@prodigy.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Check this link out for info on the various 1200s and the new 1300. http://1200s.com If you can contact someone in Japan, 1200 MKIIIs sell for about $350-$400 over there. In addition to the pitch stop override, the MKIII has much higher torque and comes up to full speed almost instantly. 1200s have gotten expensive pretty quickly--I bought two gray-market 1210s (same as a 1200 but with a black top instead of silver) on Canal St. in Manhattan in '97 for $249 each. Peace, Chris JOELANZON wrote: > Prices are expensive on every model except the MK2 and 3D's. The MK4s run $700 > bucks a piece, and the Special Edition Ones (if you can find them now) run for > $1000 bucks a piece. The MK2's are a cheaper than the MK3D's now. > > By the way I agree with Leo's being a pretty safe buy for used 1200's. 1200's > in general are rugged beasts of turntables. My friend has a pair that are 20 > years old and they work like champs, and the only thing he's had to replace are > the basics like lamps and patch cords. The pitch was replaced like 8 years > ago! Also at Guitar Center you were quoted a thousand bucks but if you tell > them you've seen them elsewhere for cheaper than they will give you a better > price. Tell them you seen them at the GC store in Concord for $399 a piece. > They have to match there store, Concord is there flagship store in Cali by the > way. > > -peace- Joe Lanzon > > vipassana@warmth.org wrote: > > > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: JOELANZON > > To: boing > > Cc: > > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 3:22 PM > > Subject: Re: EQUIP: Turntable Purchase?? > > > > > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > > > boing wrote: > > > > > > > anyone with experience with mkiii? from what i can tell, it's more/less > > > > mkii with center lock defeat - solution for a problem a lot of people > > have > > > > been whining about (and for so long 8-) > > > > > > > > > > Here's the info on the 1200MK3D > > > > > > SL1200MK3D (New Standard, Pitch Overide Button, Headshell Holder, > > > recessed Power Switch, Silver) > > > > > > and the others out also- > > > > > > SL1200MK4 (3 Speeds 33,45,78 ; Black Finish w/gold accents and platinum > > > tonearm and platter, > > > > gold plated RCA jacks instead of hardwired RCA's) > > > > Well i't about time they did that! I have had to replace the cables on many > > deck, cuz the previous > > design sucked! > > > > > > > > SL1200MKLTD (Limited edition, shiny smooth black finish, gold platter and > > > tonearm as well as gold highlights, pitch overide button) > > > > > > And the regular old 1200MK2s (silver and Black) > > > > > > The 1200MK2s might go down in price as they're supposed to be phasing > > them > > > out. Might be the reason GC has them for so low. > > > > > > -peace- Joe Lanzon > > > > Since you seem to be the man, with all the info....wanna give the breakdown > > on the pricing of each model :-o} > > > > Matt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 00:29:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20886 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 00:29:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 20850 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 00:29:20 -0000 Received: from mail.cwo.com (209.210.78.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 00:29:20 -0000 Received: from workstation4.cwo.com (office.cwo.com [209.210.78.29]) by mail.cwo.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA13740 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 17:29:20 -0700 Message-ID: <003401be9c0e$acf89500$0b01a8c0@cwo.com> From: "Permanent Press" To: "Sac Raves" Subject: a newbie... Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 17:30:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01BE9BD4.006F0380" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01BE9BD4.006F0380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable k, permpress is new to the list, not new to raves, just new to the sac rave = scene. have been spoiled in the past with some awesome private parties = and what not, just lookin' to hook up with some sac folks to break me in = locally, let me know if you all have suggestions about upcoming = events.... much peace, permpress ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01BE9BD4.006F0380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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permpress is new to the list, not new = to raves,=20 just new to the sac rave scene.  have been spoiled in the past with = some=20 awesome private parties and what not, just lookin' to hook up with some = sac=20 folks to break me in locally, let me know if you all have suggestions = about=20 upcoming events....
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0031_01BE9BD4.006F0380-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 00:41:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 416 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 00:41:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 392 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 00:41:13 -0000 Received: from inet-smtp-gw-1.us.oracle.com (192.86.155.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 00:41:13 -0000 Received: from usmail04 (usmail04.us.oracle.com [144.25.88.96]) by inet-smtp-gw-1.us.oracle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA15639 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 17:41:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from us.oracle.com by usmail04 with ESMTP (SMI-8.6/37.9) id RAA18705; Tue, 11 May 1999 17:41:10 -0700 Message-ID: <3738CDE0.144C57B5@us.oracle.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 17:40:00 -0700 From: Joyce Lam Organization: Oracle Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: any raves for college aged or early-twenties???? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Being 23, I found the rave scene last last sat in Oakland near the Coliseum a little young for me (definite high school age group) It would be great if someone could recommend raves or a rave-line or good clubs that caters more to the college-aged or early twenties age group thanks! newtoarea From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 00:48:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4535 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 00:48:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 4387 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 00:48:28 -0000 Received: from mail9.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 00:48:28 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (98CD0B10.ipt.aol.com [152.205.11.16]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA06618; Tue, 11 May 1999 17:48:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3738D042.CB6CCB81@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 17:50:10 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: AlexG1029@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: about Paul*E*Wog's comments on the scene References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am just stirring up shit and hoping that people will stop ignoring the negative in this scene. If everyone keeps looking past all the negative bullshit then it will never be dealt with. Stop ignoring all the crap that goes on in this scene. PLUR is not going to solve the problems. Some people need a good kick in the ass to wake up. This scene is dead. Sorry if you think its alive... The scene I know is dead. What you see now is the remains of a once thriving scene. Imagine the positive points of this community X 10. That is what i know. That is now what i see. I am sure before me... the scene was even better. Still, what i know of the scene is better than what we have now. Wake up... don't lie to yourself. The scene is dead. The music has died. It's the same repetitive bullshit over and over. As long as promoters keep booking the same DJs over and over again we will never bring back the life to this party. Where is the spirituality. Where are the kids on soap boxes telling the people how it is? Where is the knowledge? This scene has gotten stupid. The tripping mentality is gone. Welcome to the fucked up on drugs mentality... Realize and stop looking past the negativity. Change it now so there will be something to dance to later... =Paul*E*Wog P.S. The scene is not what I make of it. it is what WE make of it. And we are not making anything of it. AlexG1029@aol.com wrote: > > okey i know that Paul is the king of sarcasm but as much as i tried to look > for some in this last post i couldnt find any > are u seriously serious Paul? cuz if u are then i suggest u look again > this scene is what YOU make of it > im not talkin about everybody else im talkin about YOU and what u make of the > scene for urslef > while i agree that some people are using this scene in the stupidest way > possible and destroyin it for everybody else it doesnt mean that everybody is > like that > the sf scene is a really beautiful thing if u look deep inside it > example? just 2 weeks ago when Hi! got broken up some 40-50 kids went lookin > for a free party that was goin on somewhere around daly city on the beach > we didnt find it....guess what we did? we just sat on the beach around a fire > we formed a tight circle to keep each other warm and just talked and chilled > for the rest of the nite > people who mostly didnt even know each other were best friends for the nite > the strongest of us hung around to watch the sun go up....it was beautiful! > thats where the real meanin of this scene is: in unity > yes half of the people there were on drugs but if drugs are what it takes to > achieve unity then hell im down with em > only i dont think that drugs are what it takes....its people > people who have been touched by the unity and opened up to it > drugs are only there for the fun which all of us love to have > and yes some people abuse drugs and give our scene a bad name but they > shouldnt bother u unless u have the same drug problem....is that the case > Paul? > would u rather have an e-tarded "candy-ass" come up to u and give u a hug or > some gangster stab u in the back? > if all this scene does for u is disgust u with its 2nd/jackson dirty floors > and un-color-coordinated candy kids and the drugs then u really should be out > of it....but maybe u should try to see past all that and find the real > meanin: unity and love for ur each other > isnt that what the world leaders say theyre thrivin towards? only they think > theyll achieve it by droppin bombs on each others heads > well mr HARDCORE if u wanna join them and be out of the scene ur more then > welcome to....the scene will only benefit from it > but u either get out or be in and dont pretend like ur in and say things like > u did on the background > > PeAcE OuT > alEx =.) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 00:49:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5543 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 00:49:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 5529 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 00:49:23 -0000 Received: from mosheshwe.cs.berkeley.edu (128.32.131.85) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 00:49:23 -0000 Received: from localhost (davidp@localhost) by mosheshwe.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA18104 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 17:30:31 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: mosheshwe.cs.berkeley.edu: davidp owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 00:30:31 +0000 ( ) From: David Parks cc: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: happy Hardcore In-Reply-To: <2ebbea1.246a1d3e@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 11 May 1999 Abbo1234@aol.com wrote: > I like happy hardcore because it makes me happy! > Abby This is the greatest message Ive gotten all year :-) Congratulations on a most holy attitude! - DaviD who is trying to get some of that happy right now From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 00:53:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8051 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 00:53:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 8024 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 00:53:13 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 00:53:13 -0000 Received: from WizardCCCA@aol.com (229) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJPDa05661 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 20:52:13 -0400 (EDT) From: WizardCCCA@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 20:52:09 EDT Subject: Re: any raves for college aged or early-twenties???? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ITs funny that you say that.... when I started raving, I went with a bunch of my friends from college.... And when I got there, there were a LOT of kids there that were younger than me. But for some reason I never looked at it as a huge difference in age. Out here in Colorado I would have to say that some of my really good party friends ended up being the ones that were 15 and 16 years old. I am 20 and sometimes I do look at them and think "Gee they're young" but most of the time I don't look at it that way because ravers come in all shapes and sizes, ages and colors.... But IMHO, raves with youngins are better than clubs with older folks! I think you will find that the vibe is so different when the young peeps disappear. Not quite as fun and not as much lovin. :-) Just my $0.02 Liz From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 01:04:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14041 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 01:04:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 14030 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 01:04:42 -0000 Received: from ns2.safemail.com (204.89.219.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 01:04:42 -0000 Received: from starbug (ip32.safemail.com [204.89.219.32]) by ns2.safemail.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA28575 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 18:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <014e01be9c13$9742c640$8c2417ac@starbug.eco.compuware.com> From: "Charlie" To: "sfraves" Subject: Re: about Paul*E*Wog's comments on the scene Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 18:05:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok, sooooooo.. If the Scene is dead.. How do you suggest we resurrect it. You said.. "we". Who is we? I believe that this day in age.. people love to sit on their ass and wait for things to happen. If you are looking for organization or something to that effect, why don't you start something. Unless you have something better in mind to help out the situation.. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Charlie charlie@safemail.com "Eagles may soar, but weasels never get sucked into jet engines." -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -----Original Message----- From: Paul*E*Wog To: AlexG1029@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 6:47 PM Subject: Re: about Paul*E*Wog's comments on the scene >I am just stirring up shit and hoping that people will stop ignoring the >negative in this scene. If everyone keeps looking past all the negative >bullshit then it will never be dealt with. Stop ignoring all the crap >that goes on in this scene. PLUR is not going to solve the problems. > >Some people need a good kick in the ass to wake up. This scene is dead. >Sorry if you think its alive... The scene I know is dead. What you see >now is the remains of a once thriving scene. Imagine the positive points >of this community X 10. That is what i know. That is now what i see. I >am sure before me... the scene was even better. Still, what i know of >the scene is better than what we have now. > >Wake up... don't lie to yourself. The scene is dead. The music has died. >It's the same repetitive bullshit over and over. As long as promoters >keep booking the same DJs over and over again we will never bring back >the life to this party. > >Where is the spirituality. Where are the kids on soap boxes telling the >people how it is? Where is the knowledge? This scene has gotten stupid. >The tripping mentality is gone. Welcome to the fucked up on drugs >mentality... > >Realize and stop looking past the negativity. Change it now so there >will be something to dance to later... > >=Paul*E*Wog > >P.S. The scene is not what I make of it. it is what WE make of it. And >we are not making anything of it. > >AlexG1029@aol.com wrote: >> >> okey i know that Paul is the king of sarcasm but as much as i tried to look >> for some in this last post i couldnt find any >> are u seriously serious Paul? cuz if u are then i suggest u look again >> this scene is what YOU make of it >> im not talkin about everybody else im talkin about YOU and what u make of the >> scene for urslef >> while i agree that some people are using this scene in the stupidest way >> possible and destroyin it for everybody else it doesnt mean that everybody is >> like that >> the sf scene is a really beautiful thing if u look deep inside it >> example? just 2 weeks ago when Hi! got broken up some 40-50 kids went lookin >> for a free party that was goin on somewhere around daly city on the beach >> we didnt find it....guess what we did? we just sat on the beach around a fire >> we formed a tight circle to keep each other warm and just talked and chilled >> for the rest of the nite >> people who mostly didnt even know each other were best friends for the nite >> the strongest of us hung around to watch the sun go up....it was beautiful! >> thats where the real meanin of this scene is: in unity >> yes half of the people there were on drugs but if drugs are what it takes to >> achieve unity then hell im down with em >> only i dont think that drugs are what it takes....its people >> people who have been touched by the unity and opened up to it >> drugs are only there for the fun which all of us love to have >> and yes some people abuse drugs and give our scene a bad name but they >> shouldnt bother u unless u have the same drug problem....is that the case >> Paul? >> would u rather have an e-tarded "candy-ass" come up to u and give u a hug or >> some gangster stab u in the back? >> if all this scene does for u is disgust u with its 2nd/jackson dirty floors >> and un-color-coordinated candy kids and the drugs then u really should be out >> of it....but maybe u should try to see past all that and find the real >> meanin: unity and love for ur each other >> isnt that what the world leaders say theyre thrivin towards? only they think >> theyll achieve it by droppin bombs on each others heads >> well mr HARDCORE if u wanna join them and be out of the scene ur more then >> welcome to....the scene will only benefit from it >> but u either get out or be in and dont pretend like ur in and say things like >> u did on the background >> >> PeAcE OuT >> alEx =.) > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 01:06:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15497 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 01:06:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 15481 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 01:06:49 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 01:06:49 -0000 Received: from NavySatan@aol.com (8073) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id dVQRa09694; Tue, 11 May 1999 20:52:33 -0400 (EDT) From: NavySatan@aol.com Message-ID: <4876d44c.246a2ad1@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 20:52:33 EDT Subject: Re: any raves for college aged or early-twenties???? To: jwlam@us.oracle.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Places to find an older group of people, rave related: 1) Nikita and Spundaze, 21+ @ 1015 Folsom 2) Other 21+ events on the calendar 3) Ultra UG parties like Cloud Factory and Friends and Family (look them up in hyperreal) 4) the SFR mailing list regulars actually seem all to be of a more mature crowd, once you meet them and get to know them... attend SFR functions like epiphany parties and lunch/dinners From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 01:17:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22069 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 01:17:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 22059 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 01:17:10 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 01:17:10 -0000 Received: from Macias20@aol.com (14437) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iIBAa20910; Tue, 11 May 1999 20:53:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Macias20@aol.com Message-ID: <94142c96.246a2b13@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 20:53:39 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: (sort of) any trance wavs??? To: fruitcup@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk um.. i totally think wavs are better.. i downloaded a happy hardkore mp3 the other day ( YYYYYAAAYY!!!!! HAPPY HARDKORE!!!!, by the way it was a sweet mix of the neverending story song.. panda boi, orion and i luv it!!!!) and it took fooooreeeeevaaaaaa!!!! ive sent people some kik ass wavs that took only like 10 min. to download while this mp3 took about 2 and a half hours!! Even though it was so long.. it was definetly worth it.. Anyways.. the offer of these really cool two trance wavs and one happy hardkore wav are out in da open if anyone wants to hear them.. PLUR... valerie AKA sparkles P.S.. who's going to First Light.. if u are.. see ya there ;) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 01:41:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25752 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 01:41:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 25662 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 01:41:03 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 01:41:03 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (7993) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3WPHa16142 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 21:20:54 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 21:20:41 EDT Subject: Re: "invite only parties"? To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm going to change the name of this post to "WORD OF MOUTH PARTIES" Fuck big flyers and blatant self promotion. Have a super UG word of mouth party. Haven't you noticed?? word gets around in the scene.... Tell a few friends that you're having a party and then let everyone find out from there.. I like this concept.. People that need to know about it will,, and Not an invitation only party, just one where everyone who really wants to be there will put forth the effort to make it, not just show up at second and jackson with their bunk drugs because, HEY! there's a party there every weekend. And think of all the money you'll save on flyers... you could like LOWER THE COST OF THE TICKETS!!! what an idea.... hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 01:41:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26137 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 01:41:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 26016 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 01:41:11 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 01:41:11 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (7993) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3RCPa02444 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 21:34:25 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 21:34:21 EDT Subject: Hepheppy HARCORE?!?!?! To: SFRAVES@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ACK!!! happy hardcore is for singing.> It was designed in Europe when the rave scene started turning evil (after the onslaught of meth use from the invention of hardcore) Producers started making it happy to redirect the scene back to where it was in the days of acid house. (OH What i would give to have been a part of SHOOM!!) but ANyways.. I love it.. I think it's great and It makes me think of ultra-fabulous candy kids and every word is so CHEESY that I can't help but bounce and sing to the kids around me. By the way, I'm curious... Was anyone in the happy hardcore room at the end of love affair in february that saw Paul E wog and me singing in a huge circle of kids... That's what happy hardcore does!!! It's puts a smile on my face!! BTW I will be at Thunderdome.> *(i love you nik!) and it was supposed to be two weeks ago but got postponed till this summer, which is just as well. THis summer is going to KIK ASS! as someone very special said.. "Vibe so thick you can stand a fork in it" hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva "you have a heart of gold.. a precious gift to which I was sold but I just can't justify your love. It hurts to see you walk away and i'd like to ask you back to stay, to hold you in my arms just one more time. Another day has passed me by, a shattered dream and a distant cry and the feeling that i've lost my world to you. For a thousand years here I could stand, your precious gift held in my hand but I just can't justify your love!!!!!!" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 02:04:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6883 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 02:04:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 6875 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 02:04:00 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 02:04:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512020224.4217.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.86.220.227] by web4; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:02:24 PDT Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:02:24 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: GHB etc. news To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This was on the CNN site. Sorry about the formatting. They did a good job calling GHB GBH by mistake, don't ya think? --- FDA: Supplement-disguised sleep aids, party drugs are deadly May 11, 1999 Web posted at: 5:01 PM EDT (2101 GMT) WASHINGTON (AP) -- Americans should avoid more than a half-dozen sleep aids and "party drugs" sold in health food stores and on the Internet because they can send people into comas or even kill, the government warned on Tuesday. The urgent consumer warning is part of repeated Food and Drug Administration efforts to remove from the market chemicals related to a party drug called GBH that was banned in 1991. But companies are selling new varieties of the chemicals in the guise of dietary supplements, substances that are largely unregulated. At least three deaths are linked to the products and 119 other people have suffered serious side effects, including comas, losing consciousness and requiring quick insertion of breathing tubes to stay alive, the FDA said. Do not use products containing the ingredients GBH, or gamma hydroxybutyrate; GBL, or gamma butyrolactone; or BD, known as 1,4 butanediol, the government warned. Some such products are sold under the names Revitalize Plus, Serenity, Enliven, GHRE, SomatoPro, NRG3, Thunder Nectar and Weight Belt Cleaner, the FDA said. "We're urging people not to use or buy these products," agreed Texas Health Commissioner William Archer in a separate warning to Texans last week that an Austin man had died from consuming BD-containing Thunder Nectar. GBH is a potent drug that some scientists are studying in carefully monitored clinical trials as a possible narcolepsy treatment, but all other uses of GHB are illegal. Despite that ban, the FDA two years ago discovered laboratories illegally producing the odorless, tasteless chemical. It became known as a "date rape" drug for rendering women helpless when slipped into their drinks. GBL breaks down into the banned GBH drug, so by law it also is illegal, and the FDA began cracking down on those products in January. Now the FDA has discovered that some companies are replacing GBL with the equally risky BD in their products. This isn't the first time BD has struck: More than 100 New Year's partygoers in Los Angeles two years ago became sick after drinking "Cherry fX Bombs" and "Orange fX Rush." The drinks were alleged to be made from the kava plant, but the FDA said the maker instead substituted BD, which also is sold as an industrial solvent. The maker was fined and sentenced to three months in prison. BD can cause dangerously low breathing rates, unconsciousness, vomiting, seizures and death. It can increase the effects of alcohol and "is even more dangerous when consumed with other depressant drugs," the agency warned. FDA officials pledged to seize products containing any of the chemicals, and already this spring have seized over 1,500 bottles from New York and Rhode Island companies. But during the crackdown, consumers must guard their own health. "We can't be everywhere, so we really want to get the message out," said FDA drug chief Dr. Janet Woodcock. "Look at the labels. Look very carefully at anything marketed as an aid for sleeping," and don't consume any of the suspect ingredients. The chemicals also may be disguised under the names tetramethylene glycol or 2(3H)-Furanone di-hydro. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 02:10:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9963 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 02:10:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 9902 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 02:10:09 -0000 Received: from web108.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.75) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 02:10:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512021028.27288.rocketmail@web108.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.54.72] by web108.yahoomail.com; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:10:28 PDT Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:10:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: happy Hardcore To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk to get more people to come --- XXxHaiLx@aol.com wrote: > If u were at a happy hardcore party why were there > jungle djs there? > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 02:18:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14760 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 02:18:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 14752 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 02:18:53 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 02:18:53 -0000 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.9.3/8.8.4) with SMTP id TAA27802; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:18:18 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-Sender: andy@atari Reply-To: AndyW To: Paul*E*Wog cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: about Paul*E*Wog's comments on the scene In-Reply-To: <3738D042.CB6CCB81@geocities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 11 May 1999, Paul*E*Wog wrote: -&e->I am just stirring up shit and hoping that people will stop ignoring the -&e->negative in this scene. If everyone keeps looking past all the negative -&e->bullshit then it will never be dealt with. Stop ignoring all the crap -&e->that goes on in this scene. PLUR is not going to solve the problems. You're right. Plur says nothing about DIY, about throwing free renegades in places that you might end up wearing handcuffs for, about spinning a different set every time you play out, about trying when it seems like nobody's listening, about having double the prop/light/laser/dj budget as other parties charging the same ticket price, about going the extra mile even though there isn't an extra dollar in doing so. -&e->Some people need a good kick in the ass to wake up. This scene is dead. -&e->Sorry if you think its alive... The scene I know is dead. What you see -&e->now is the remains of a once thriving scene. Imagine the positive points -&e->of this community X 10. That is what i know. That is now what i see. I -&e->am sure before me... the scene was even better. Still, what i know of -&e->the scene is better than what we have now. Specifically, why? Paul, not to be an ass, but you might have looked like them to me when you first started out, and you 'turned out' okay... I'd even go so far as to say I like you nowadays. You're a nice guy... even with the fur. -&e->Wake up... don't lie to yourself. The scene is dead. The music has died. -&e->It's the same repetitive bullshit over and over. As long as promoters -&e->keep booking the same DJs over and over again we will never bring back -&e->the life to this party. Especially if those DJs play the same tired records from the same tired genre in the same tired order. You know who you are, and you're no better than snake oil salesmen, charlatans, carnies pulling one over on the crowd. Playing DATs when they claim to be spinning live, telling others DJs not to play "their" signature tracks (despite having nothing to do with writing or producing them in any way), covering labels, making mixtapes using software instead of a mixer and a pair of decks, or playing the same canned set night after night in the same city... hoping everbody in the crowd is high enough to not notice the fact that it's the same old same old. I'm not saying stop spinning, but I AM saying try a little bit harder, people can tell. There are people who love what you do, give that sentiment back with as much creativity, practice and love as you can muster. So I'll agree with you there Paul... -&e->Where is the spirituality. Where are the kids on soap boxes telling the -&e->people how it is? Where is the knowledge? This scene has gotten stupid. -&e->The tripping mentality is gone. Welcome to the fucked up on drugs -&e->mentality... What I'm asking is: Where is the self-respect mentality? It's not a question of what drugs people are taking, it's a question of what they're all about in the first place. To be honest, even the noblest "tripping mentality" finds alleys of your mind that will be familiar after a while and not yield those insights you once found so amazing... some people get high for knowledge, some for curiosity, some for escape, some just cause it feels good, some cause they don't know another way, and some just choose not to use. I can't judge those reasons, but I can ask that people be careful and use drugs in a way that they'll be here to see the sun rise tomorrow and hope that registers. -&e->Realize and stop looking past the negativity. Change it now so there -&e->will be something to dance to later... Working on it. So are a lot of other people who LOVE it when it still happens for them. People like Radley Marx who gets a slot at Skills and calls me up to offer to split the slot with me cause he thinks 2x4ing is just plain fun, or Bobby from Honey who paid all the DJs gas money after they agreed to play for free, or Jahsh who has driven my sound system around the world like five times now and asked little in return, or Greg Sandler who has valued my opinions despite me being just a whiny stinking newbie DJ, or the crazy bastards who spend hours burying power cable at a campout party so nobody trips over it, or any DJ who stays committed to a free booking when they could have dropped that for a paying one, or the promoter who knocks a couple bucks off the price when they know they could charge more, or the kid who decides to buy herself a water and decides to get another one for the guy who has been dancing for three hours straight and hasn't opened his eyes once just to be nice. As long as there is integrity and love of the scene, we're fine... and despite seeing a lot of things I'd rather not, I still see those moments that bring me back often enough to keep doing it.... moments that are pretty unique to the rave scene. The funny part about all of this is, it's a catch 22. The scene is amazing, as long as we all feel we belong, and we're all in love with it. When the air is full of criticism, the magic starts to disappear. The divisions along lines of junglist and goahead, of househead and trancehead, hardcore and techno, of UG and massive are all as fucking lame as the day is long. I've heard a lot of people say exactly what you're saying lately, and I heard people saying similar things years before... it can't stay the same, the 'scene' is as alive as we are. Some will stay and some will go. There are those who will draw energy from the scene and walk away when they don't feel it anymore, and there are those who continue to add creativity, risk, effort, and their various personal gifts selflessly in order to keep it as vibrant and beautiful as the night they discovered in a haze of blacklit awe and unfamiliarity. We are freaks, fuckups, weirdos, lame asses, candy trash, cynical technobastards and every other explicative you can think of. But we do things that are extraordinary, that teach that there's another way. If that's too "hippy" then fine, but that's why I keep doing it. Peace, AndyW From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 02:25:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19379 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 02:25:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 19184 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 02:25:28 -0000 Received: from ns1.covalent.net (HELO zuul.covalent.net) (208.214.56.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 02:25:28 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by zuul.covalent.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA06307 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 20:30:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com (14412) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vSXFa03214 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 21:27:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6fb1f0a1.246a32f1@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 21:27:13 EDT Subject: Re: happy Hardcore To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I used to hate Happycore with a vengeance. back when i first got into techno i got happy2bhardcore vol.1 thinking it was "hardcore edgy techno" (this is before i knew what hard trance was). so i brought it home and put it in mah cd player. "BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM !" AAAAAAGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i returned it the next day. i couldnt belive people liked this stuff!!! it was tooo fast!! tooo cheesy!!! diva singers and chipmunks and toooooo FOOKIN HEPpY!!!! Then it happened.....i was at luv a fair and i was lookin at the tape booth and decided to try happycore again now that my musical appreciation has been broadened more. i got MIndcontroler Hardcore rush. and it blew my mind. I had a bad experience walking home from BARt and working 8 hhours in the morning with no time to recooperate (spelling?) and that lil tape was the thing that made me SMILE all frickin day! I agree that it is hard to dance to (i have only danced to it once or twice) but it is always there to make me (you) smile. -aaron (orion) *WAAAAAAAAH I HAvE TO MISS thunderdome!!!!!!!! :P blah! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 02:25:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19391 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 02:25:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 19123 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 02:25:26 -0000 Received: from ns1.covalent.net (HELO zuul.covalent.net) (208.214.56.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 02:25:26 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (mail10.geocities.com [209.1.224.138]) by zuul.covalent.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA07726 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 20:33:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from goodvibe@geocities.com) Received: from geocities.com (98CD0B10.ipt.aol.com [152.205.11.16]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA28109; Tue, 11 May 1999 18:29:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3738D9EB.524FD5A@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 18:31:23 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ball, Tera" CC: "'SFRaves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: Re: happy Hardcore References: <756B30A53DCBD111BABC00A0C981D46372AD2C@ASPEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I can dance faster and harder than you. That is why i like hardcore. I can last longer on the dance floor than you can. That is why i like hardcore. Anyway you can dance I can dance harder I can dance much harder than you. "No you can't" Yes I can Yes I can Yes I can Sooner or later I'm faster than you. I am much faster than you. "No you're not! Yes I am Yes I am Yes I am =Paul*E*Wog P.S. Slow people don't like hardcore. "Ball, Tera" wrote: > > I was just wondering what everyone's fascination with Happy Hardcore is! > It is impossible to dance to, it sounds like techno on crack. It makes > me feel sick! Who ever started this probably did on accident by > spinning his record too fast. If any one could give me one good reason > why they like this music I would much appreciate it! Thanx. Have a > bitchin' day. > Tera From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 02:25:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19621 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 02:25:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 19319 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 02:25:32 -0000 Received: from ns1.covalent.net (HELO zuul.covalent.net) (208.214.56.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 02:25:32 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (mail10.geocities.com [209.1.224.138]) by zuul.covalent.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA09305 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 20:38:11 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from goodvibe@geocities.com) Received: from geocities.com (98CD0B10.ipt.aol.com [152.205.11.16]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01799; Tue, 11 May 1999 18:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3738D39E.AE27C09E@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 18:04:30 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: leslie.ayres@excite.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: "invite only parties"? References: <926442921.1009.77@excite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i am not the candy king. never said i was. still... i can not be held responsible for other people's fashion mistakes.. If people are not inviting me because of my attitude over SFR they are dumb. I don't act like this at a party. I am shy and quiet and dance in the background. Was that you dancing at Harmony Spring Time Flower Festival? Oh wait... no you were sitting on your ass all nite. Sorry. I forgot... Hugs n kisses =Paul*E*Wog leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > > paul e wog, you want to know what happened to the invite only parties? > > yo, paul. they're still around. maybe you're just not being invited? > > wonder how that could be... maybe it's your attitude. though i'm sure your > sarcasm has a special spot in some people's hearts, maybe it's a little too > much for those smaller parties where people actually *like* each other. > > maybe it's that you dress all like the cande king and then complain that the > other cande kids wanna hug you. yuch. must be awful, all that fur rubbing > on fur, plastic necklaces getting all tangled up. i feel for you. > > but your idea to throw one of your own is a good one... gabber to your > heart's content, only invite those who dress in a way that you approve of > (um, wonder how many people would make *that* list).... do it yourself is > the theme for sure. > > seriously. > > love, leslie > > Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 02:26:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20470 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 02:26:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 19992 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 02:25:50 -0000 Received: from ns1.covalent.net (HELO zuul.covalent.net) (208.214.56.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 02:25:50 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (mail10.geocities.com [209.1.224.138]) by zuul.covalent.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA09701 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 20:39:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from goodvibe@geocities.com) Received: from geocities.com (98CD0B10.ipt.aol.com [152.205.11.16]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA02369 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 18:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3738D71B.2F2C4010@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 18:19:23 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: FDA Issues Warning on 'Party Drugs's Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------9A1F6C3B422E1928FE91D509" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------9A1F6C3B422E1928FE91D509 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------9A1F6C3B422E1928FE91D509 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18737 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:03:34 -0700 (PDT) From: PaulxExWog@aol.com Received: from PaulxExWog@aol.com (14421) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 7VGOa26069 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 18:03:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6badb594.246a0329@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 18:03:21 EDT Subject: FDA Issues Warning on 'GHB' To: goodvibe@geocities.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_6badb594.246a0329_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 --part1_6badb594.246a0329_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_6badb594.246a0329_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: AOLNews@aol.com From: AOLNews@aol.com Full-name: AOL News Message-ID: <6badb594.2469bf2f@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:13:19 EDT Subject: FDA Issues Warning on 'Party Drugs' MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) To: undisclosed-recipients:; FDA Issues Warning on 'Party Drugs' .c The Associated Press By LAURAN NEERGAARD WASHINGTON (AP) -- Americans should avoid more than a half-dozen sleep aids and ``party drugs'' sold in health food stores and on the Internet because they can send people into comas or even kill, the government warned on Tuesday. The urgent consumer warning is part of repeated Food and Drug Administration efforts to remove from the market chemicals related to a party drug called GBH that was banned in 1991. But companies are selling new varieties of the chemicals in the guise of dietary supplements, substances that are largely unregulated. At least three deaths are linked to the products and 119 other people have suffered serious side effects, including comas, losing consciousness and requiring quick insertion of breathing tubes to stay alive, the FDA said. Do not use products containing the ingredients GBH, or gamma hydroxybutyrate; GBL, or gamma butyrolactone; or BD, known as 1,4 butanediol, the government warned. Some such products are sold under the names Revitalize Plus, Serenity, Enliven, GHRE, SomatoPro, NRG3, Thunder Nectar and Weight Belt Cleaner, the FDA said. ``We're urging people not to use or buy these products,'' agreed Texas Health Commissioner William Archer in a separate warning to Texans last week that an Austin man had died from consuming BD-containing Thunder Nectar. GBH is a potent drug that some scientists are studying in carefully monitored clinical trials as a possible narcolepsy treatment, but all other uses of GHB are illegal. Despite that ban, the FDA two years ago discovered laboratories illegally producing the odorless, tasteless chemical. It became known as a ``date rape'' drug for rendering women helpless when slipped into their drinks. GBL breaks down into the banned GBH drug, so by law it also is illegal, and the FDA began cracking down on those products in January. Now the FDA has discovered that some companies are replacing GBL with the equally risky BD in their products. This isn't the first time BD has struck: More than 100 New Year's partygoers in Los Angeles two years ago became sick after drinking ``Cherry fX Bombs'' and ``Orange fX Rush.'' The drinks were alleged to be made from the kava plant, but the FDA said the maker instead substituted BD, which also is sold as an industrial solvent. The maker was fined and sentenced to three months in prison. BD can cause dangerously low breathing rates, unconsciousness, vomiting, seizures and death. It can increase the effects of alcohol and ``is even more dangerous when consumed with other depressant drugs,'' the agency warned. FDA officials pledged to seize products containing any of the chemicals, and already this spring have seized over 1,500 bottles from New York and Rhode Island companies. But during the crackdown, consumers must guard their own health. ``We can't be everywhere, so we really want to get the message out,'' said FDA drug chief Dr. Janet Woodcock. ``Look at the labels. Look very carefully at anything marketed as an aid for sleeping,'' and don't consume any of the suspect ingredients. The chemicals also may be disguised under the names tetramethylene glycol or 2(3H)-Furanone di-hydro. AP-NY-05-11-99 1313EDT Copyright 1998 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without prior written authority of The Associated Press. To edit your profile, go to keyword NewsProfiles . For all of today's news, go to keyword News. --part1_6badb594.246a0329_boundary-- --------------9A1F6C3B422E1928FE91D509-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 02:35:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29108 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 02:35:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 29071 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 02:35:13 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 02:35:13 -0000 Received: from XXxHaiLx@aol.com (14456) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rZZTa06455; Tue, 11 May 1999 22:13:20 -0400 (EDT) From: XXxHaiLx@aol.com Message-ID: <2d05d385.246a3dbe@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 22:13:18 EDT Subject: Re: Re: happy Hardcore To: montereypat@yahoo.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i was at 916 junglist a few weeks earlier.. and they did not get a crowd like that. that just doesnt add up? *shrug* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 02:40:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3667 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 02:40:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 3658 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 02:40:23 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd122.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.186) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 02:40:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 69382 invoked by uid 0); 12 May 1999 02:39:56 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512023956.69381.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.72.67.208 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:39:56 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.72.67.208] From: "David Ramirez" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: any raves for college aged or early-twenties???? Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:39:56 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk and don't forget monday nights at club ecco.. 21+.. (which sux cuz i can't go).. ----Original Message Follows---- From: NavySatan@aol.com To: jwlam@us.oracle.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: any raves for college aged or early-twenties???? Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 20:52:33 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 From sfraves-owner-raver_hp Tue May 11 18:07:01 1999 Received: from [209.133.83.16] by hotmail.com (1.5) with SMTP id MHotMailB9021F340189D820B655D185531012CD0; Tue May 11 18:07:01 1999 Received: (qmail 15497 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 01:06:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 15481 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 01:06:49 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 01:06:49 -0000 Received: from NavySatan@aol.com (8073)by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id dVQRa09694;Tue, 11 May 1999 20:52:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4876d44c.246a2ad1@aol.com> X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Places to find an older group of people, rave related: 1) Nikita and Spundaze, 21+ @ 1015 Folsom 2) Other 21+ events on the calendar 3) Ultra UG parties like Cloud Factory and Friends and Family (look them up in hyperreal) 4) the SFR mailing list regulars actually seem all to be of a more mature crowd, once you meet them and get to know them... attend SFR functions like epiphany parties and lunch/dinners From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 02:41:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5184 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 02:41:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 5175 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 02:41:40 -0000 Received: from outsider.aureal.com (38.186.66.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 02:41:40 -0000 Received: from sonic by outsider.Aureal.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #64) id m10hPC7-000MorC; Tue, 11 May 99 19:56 PDT Received: from exchange.aureal.com by sonic (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA14522; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:33:45 -0700 Received: from pc2 (202.64.63.116 [202.64.63.116]) by exchange.aureal.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id KJ6L64HH; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:44:04 -0700 Message-ID: <071901be9c20$dec21360$743f40ca@pc2.aureal.com.hk> Reply-To: "Ravi Gadhia" From: "Ravi Gadhia" To: "SFRaves" Subject: Parties in Hong Kong??? Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:40:08 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi All, I'm an old-time SFRaver ('93). I'm living in Hong Kong this summer. Does anyone have any contacts or leads on the Hong Kong party scene??? Any and all info appreciated. Thanks in advance, Ravi Gadhia rg@aureal.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 02:43:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6185 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 02:43:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 6103 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 02:42:50 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd104.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.168) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 02:42:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 37865 invoked by uid 0); 12 May 1999 02:42:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512024223.37864.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.72.67.208 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:42:22 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.72.67.208] From: "David Ramirez" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: "invite only parties"? Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:42:22 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yea yea!!! lower tickets!!!!!!.. yea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ----Original Message Follows---- From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com To: SFraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: "invite only parties"? Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 21:20:41 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 From sfraves-owner-raver_hp Tue May 11 18:41:28 1999 Received: from [209.133.83.16] by hotmail.com (1.5) with SMTP id MHotMailB9022747001CD1B9831FD1855310122E0; Tue May 11 18:41:28 1999 Received: (qmail 25752 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 01:41:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 25662 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 01:41:03 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 01:41:03 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (7993)by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3WPHa16142 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 21:20:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm going to change the name of this post to "WORD OF MOUTH PARTIES" Fuck big flyers and blatant self promotion. Have a super UG word of mouth party. Haven't you noticed?? word gets around in the scene.... Tell a few friends that you're having a party and then let everyone find out from there.. I like this concept.. People that need to know about it will,, and Not an invitation only party, just one where everyone who really wants to be there will put forth the effort to make it, not just show up at second and jackson with their bunk drugs because, HEY! there's a party there every weekend. And think of all the money you'll save on flyers... you could like LOWER THE COST OF THE TICKETS!!! what an idea.... hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 02:45:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7827 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 02:45:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 7805 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 02:45:42 -0000 Received: from web114.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.86) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 02:45:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512024913.24915.rocketmail@web114.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.54.72] by web114.yahoomail.com; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:49:13 PDT Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:49:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: Re: happy Hardcore To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk And they didn't have any kids that were so messed up on drugs and what not that they needed to be carried out by four people then tended to by two EMT's until they could find someone that was sober enough to take him to medical. which he never went to because he was back 'partying' 20 minutes later. Also, 916 IS growing. Mostly by word of mouth, but now they have flyers. There is going to be one this week that should be of good size. *HUGZ* pat --- XXxHaiLx@aol.com wrote: > i was at 916 junglist a few weeks earlier.. and they > did not get a crowd like > that. > that just doesnt add up? > *shrug* > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 02:45:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8106 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 02:45:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 7811 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 02:45:43 -0000 Received: from web114.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.86) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 02:45:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512024914.24920.rocketmail@web114.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.54.72] by web114.yahoomail.com; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:49:14 PDT Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:49:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: Re: happy Hardcore To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk And they didn't have any kids that were so messed up on drugs and what not that they needed to be carried out by four people then tended to by two EMT's until they could find someone that was sober enough to take him to medical. which he never went to because he was back 'partying' 20 minutes later. Also, 916 IS growing. Mostly by word of mouth, but now they have flyers. There is going to be one this week that should be of good size. *HUGZ* pat --- XXxHaiLx@aol.com wrote: > i was at 916 junglist a few weeks earlier.. and they > did not get a crowd like > that. > that just doesnt add up? > *shrug* > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 02:53:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12394 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 02:53:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 12370 invoked by uid 233); 12 May 1999 02:53:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 29549 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 21:12:18 -0000 Received: from shell4.ba.best.com (giles@206.184.139.135) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 21:12:18 -0000 Received: from localhost (giles@localhost) by shell4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.sh) with ESMTP id OAA21438; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:12:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell4.ba.best.com: giles owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:12:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Giles Bowkett X-Sender: giles@shell4.ba.best.com To: SF Raves cc: Epiphany List , sf-jungle@saturn5.com, abductified , satrapap@lists.best.com, "Discoe, Ben" , Derek J Fieldsoe Subject: maya: new list Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi all. I'm starting a new list called maya. The goal is for it to be a sort of raver spirituality list. Fitting topics would include all sorts of spiritual whatnot -- buddhism, reincarnation, god(s), etc. -- as well as stories of spiritual insights and weird hallucinations and all sorts of stuff. You know, the sort of thing that shows up in metaphysical articles towards the back of rave zines. ;-) Seriously, if you've ever seen something happen in a dream before it happened to you in real life, or realized what another person was thinking before they started to say it, or had any sort of similar experience that made you just stop and wonder what was really going on, you've got something to contribute to this list. If yer interested, e-mail me personally (giles@bowkett.com), or check the welcome message, which I've put up at http://www.bowkett.com/maya. Thanks. (PS: Sorry for the spam.) --------] [-------- ------] giles@bowkett.com [------ ----] [---- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 02:53:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13141 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 02:53:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 13132 invoked by uid 233); 12 May 1999 02:53:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 14536 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 21:29:41 -0000 Received: from law-f48.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.111) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 May 1999 21:29:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 5017 invoked by uid 0); 10 May 1999 21:29:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19990510212914.5016.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.170.187.224 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:29:14 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.170.187.224] From: "michael waldren" To: Barbero420@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Paul*E*Wog Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:29:14 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Barbero needs to check himself. Whhat the hell is up with that Bad boy title at the end of your post. You cant be a badboy PLURist, that ia one of the worst oxymorons ever. In fact for that last post i would label you a bigger biotch than Paul E Wog. And lemme tell ya'. Thats is frickin huge. "your everyday badboi" Mikey >From: Barbero420@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: Paul*E*Wog >Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:31:35 EDT > >first off, id like 2 apologize bout my comments towards Paul*E*Wog, it was >wrong and went against my beliefs in PLUR. however, Paul*E*Wog does need 2 >check himself. alot of what he says might b offensive 2 others and doesnt >promote PLUR. > >PLUR, >BaadBoy420 >(aka Barbero420) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 02:56:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15773 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 02:56:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 15754 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 02:56:17 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 02:56:17 -0000 Received: from Speedex33@aol.com (8028) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNYBa04194; Tue, 11 May 1999 22:54:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Speedex33@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 22:54:30 EDT Subject: Re: Re: NRR: Short list Top 10 all time albums. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org CC: ejoyboy@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Netmail sub 2 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ooooh ooooh!!! Here's mine; in no particular order..... 1. Live - Throwing Copper 2. Filter - Short Bus 3. U2 - Achtune Baby (or however you spell it) 4. U2 - Joshua Tree 5. RadioHead - The Bends 6. Strange Days Soundtrack 7. MTV Buzz Bin Volume 1 8. Virtuosity Soundtrack 9. Kids Soundtrack 10. Oasis - Be Here Now 11. Stabbing Westward - Wither Blister Peel and Burn (or something to that effect) 12. Smashing Pumpkins - Meloncholy and the Infinite Sadness 13. Tunnel Trance Force Vol. 3 Okay okay, more than 10, but still great albums. Laterz, SCotT From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 03:04:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21831 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 03:04:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 21818 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 03:04:55 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 03:04:55 -0000 Received: from Speedex33@aol.com (8028) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vITLa16142 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 23:02:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Speedex33@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 23:02:48 EDT Subject: NRR: The X - Files on ACID???? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Netmail sub 2 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Woah! Okay! Did anyone here see the LSD mushroom episode of the X-Files on Sunday? Man what a trip!!! At the very begining when the lady in the shower saw the wall start to melt yellow, i was like "Woah, she looks like she's on an acid trip!" but dayam i didn' know i would be so right!:) That episode was hella tight and i loved how they made almost the whole episode a halucination. Then, when Mulder looks around and sees the room melting, i couldn't believe what i was seeing! I havn't watched it in a while, but i was not disapointed at all! Laterz, Scott From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 03:11:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25978 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 03:10:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 25804 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 03:10:52 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 03:10:52 -0000 Received: from XXxHaiLx@aol.com (14456) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rQKa024273; Tue, 11 May 1999 22:55:08 -0400 (EDT) From: XXxHaiLx@aol.com Message-ID: <4d0cc394.246a478f@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 22:55:11 EDT Subject: Re: Re: Re: happy Hardcore To: montereypat@yahoo.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk So you are telling me thats the happy hardcores fault? They have had flyers for 916 junglist for sometime now. heh From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 03:11:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27226 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 03:11:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 27218 invoked by uid 233); 12 May 1999 03:11:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 7566 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 20:03:02 -0000 Received: from law-f7.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 20:03:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 90259 invoked by uid 0); 11 May 1999 19:44:34 -0000 Message-ID: <19990511194434.90258.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.170.187.244 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:44:33 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.170.187.244] From: "michael waldren" To: radley@elemental.nu Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Waiting for the emergence of 2 separate scenes Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:44:33 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OMG, i finally see where PAUL E is coming from. This is all a big ploy, just a shout out for the attention that he lacks within the SFR scene. And he wasnt serious, he never is. In fact he was being sarcastic about being not sarcastic. Get it. I am not gonna go back on my theorys oor anything, i mean i still wanna beat the livin shit outta this kid, but you guys need to just let it and him go. Junglist Mikey >From: Radley Marx >To: Paul*E*Wog >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: Waiting for the emergence of 2 separate scenes >Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:01:08 -0700 > > >Dude!!! For reals. I for one would like to say something serious. I > >HATE... HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE raves. Every time some e-traded candy > >trash bitch comes up and tries to hug me i feel like pushing them on the > >floor and ripping those nasty beads off their neck. I hate ravers. I > >hate raves. They are a waste of time. There are better things to do in > >life besides ecstacy. > > > >I really wish i had never gone. > > > >I am regretting that day very much now. > > > >I hate CYBER TRANCE!!!!! And the party at Skills just reminded me how > >ugly our sf scene is. It's disgusting. Its gross. It needs to be hosed > >down. Those kids are gross, sweaty, can't coordinate their clothes. And > >they are overly tacky. > >It makes me sick to think that promoters would welcome this kind of > >trash into their venue? > > > >What happened to invite only parities??? Where is the UG? I am going to > >throw my own party and handpick the people i want to be there from the > >crowd. > > > >I hate ravers. They suck!!!! I hate ravers... > > > >This is not sarcasm. This is serious. I despise this scene and what it > >has become. It's nothing but a farm of kids on drugs. Make me feel gross > >to be apart of this. I want out!!! > > > >=Paul*E*Wog > > >wow dude, I hope you're just having a bad day. may I take this chance to >offer another point of view? > >yeah, drugs suck. but don't bash on the people of our scene. I just heard a >comedian describe it like this: "me and a friend went to Disneyland high... >and we were convinced that everyone there was ugly but us." This is a not >so talked about natural reaction to people. Remember, they were dancing in >the dirt. What else did you really expect? > >Invite only parties are still out there. Maybe you're not aware of them >because of kind of the messages you're sending out. We could invite you to >one of our private events, but why since you've attacked my friends? You're >focusing on the bad and lashing out; that's a lot for others to deal with. > >Hey, I've done it too, so you're easily forgiven. >But next time: at least make it funny! > >Sorry the scene is so ugly. > >Fix it. Make it better. I'll help you if you want. > > >-r > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 03:17:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29719 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 03:17:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 29711 invoked by uid 233); 12 May 1999 03:17:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 4632 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 21:38:48 -0000 Received: from nettapp.nettwerk.com (HELO budd.nettwerk.com) (209.17.154.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 May 1999 21:38:48 -0000 Received: from [216.101.68.178] (adsl-216-101-68-178.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [216.101.68.178]) by budd.nettwerk.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA17836 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 14:35:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: william@mailhost.nettwerk.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:41:13 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: william godoy Subject: Wildchild Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The "Renegade Master" song is also available on Plastic Compilation Vol. 2 which has the has the Fat Boy Slim Old Skool Mix. The album is SICK as hell. I also have access to the Ultra Records single, which has 8 different mixes. If anyone is interested in this single ie...DJs,promoters,the curious, let me know. peace William (aka Lazarus) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 03:31:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7707 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 03:31:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 7697 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 03:31:08 -0000 Received: from law-f217.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.127) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 03:31:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 10150 invoked by uid 0); 12 May 1999 03:31:21 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512033121.10149.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.77.82.140 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 11 May 1999 20:31:21 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.77.82.140] From: "michael waldren" To: XXxHaiLx@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Re: happy Hardcore Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 20:31:21 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Alright that is BS. Pat has no reason to fake on us. I was at the last party at the Deli wif my boi and it was slammed packed. For an even bigger crowd show up this Friday for UFO. Anywho leave my boy alone aiiiiiight. Junglist mikey >From: XXxHaiLx@aol.com >To: montereypat@yahoo.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, >SFRaves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: Re: happy Hardcore >Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 22:13:18 EDT > >i was at 916 junglist a few weeks earlier.. and they did not get a crowd >like >that. >that just doesnt add up? >*shrug* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 03:38:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10653 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 03:38:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 10640 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 03:38:22 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 03:38:22 -0000 Received: from SpinDazE@aol.com (530) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vTBWa02445; Tue, 11 May 1999 23:35:55 -0400 (EDT) From: SpinDazE@aol.com Message-ID: <743b4685.246a5119@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 23:35:53 EDT Subject: It's National Condom week!! (NRR) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org CC: galatictunnel@hotmail.com, JungljunkE@aol.com, pikachu4ru@hotmail.com, CanContrl@aol.com, Smitde6@usfca.edu, Jana474@aol.com, CuteZRaver@aol.com, Jules1580@aol.com, megryanusf@hotmail.com, faroom5@usfca.edu, amirni2@usfca.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Practice Safe Sex! 1. COVER YOUR STUMP BEFORE U HUMP 2. BEFORE YOU ATTACK HER, WRAP YOUR WHACKER 3. DON'T BE SILLY, PROTECT YOUR WILLY 4. WHEN IN DOUBT, SHROUD YOUR SPOUT 5. DON'T BE A LONER, COVER YOUR BONER 6. YOU CAN'T GO WRONG IF YOU SHIELD YOUR DONG 7. IF YOU'RE NOT GOIN TO SACK IT, GO HOME AND WHACK IT 8. IF YOU THINK SHE'S SPUNKY, COVER YOUR MONKEY 9. IF YOU SLIP BETWEEN HER THIGHS, BE SURE TO CONDOMIZE 10. IT WILL BE SWEETER IF YOU WRAP YOUR PETER 11. SHE WON'T GET SICK IF YOU WRAP YOUR DICK 12. IF YOU GO IN HEAT, PACKAGE YOUR MEAT 13. WHILE YOU'RE UNDRESSING VENUS, DRESS UP YOUR PENIS 14. WHEN YOU TAKE OFF HER PANTS AND BLOUSE, ZIP UP YOUR TROUSER MOUSE (WHAT!?!? does neone know what that is? 15. ESPECIALLY IN DECEMBER, GIFT WRAP YOUR MEMBER 16. NEVER, NEVER DECK HER WITH AN UNWRAPPED PECKER 17. DON'T BE A FOOL, VULCANIZE YOUR TOOL 18. THE RIGHT SELECTION WILL PROTECT YOUR ERECTION 19. WRAP IT IN FOIL BEFORE CHECKING HER OIL 20. A CRANK WITH ARMOR WILL NEVER HARM HER 21. NO GLOVE, NO LOVE! 22. IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE IT OFF, HAVE IT ON From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 03:43:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12393 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 03:43:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 12355 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 03:43:02 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 03:43:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512032606.6736.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [129.210.88.197] by web1; Tue, 11 May 1999 20:26:06 PDT Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 20:26:06 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: Re: about Paul*E*Wog's comments on the scene To: AndyW , Paul*E*Wog Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ---AndyW wrote: > You're right. Plur says nothing about DIY, about throwing free renegades > in places that you might end up wearing handcuffs for, about spinning a > different set every time you play out, about trying when it seems like > nobody's listening, about having double the prop/light/laser/dj budget as > other parties charging the same ticket price, about going the extra mile > even though there isn't an extra dollar in doing so. And therein lies the problem. Why go the extra mile if you can get away with it being half-assed? If the the audience doesn't know any better, then they won't demand anything better. So kudos to Paul for AT LEAST being outspoken. I might not agree with everything he says, but he says it. > Especially if those DJs play the same tired records from the same tired > genre in the same tired order. You know who you are, and you're no better > than snake oil salesmen, charlatans, carnies pulling one over on the > crowd. Playing DATs when they claim to be spinning live, telling others > DJs not to play "their" signature tracks (despite having nothing to do > with writing or producing them in any way), covering labels, making > mixtapes using software instead of a mixer and a pair of decks, or playing > the same canned set night after night in the same city... hoping everbody > in the crowd is high enough to not notice the fact that it's the same old > same old. I'm not saying stop spinning, but I AM saying try a little bit > harder, people can tell. See my comment above. I agree completely. Who am I to say that some dj's don't give it their all every night. BUT if the environment surrounding you is complancent, then you don't KNOW what level you have to bring it to. Demand more from your promoters, demand more from your dj's. The parties and music will be better for it. The changes need to come from the crowd. -Science From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 04:17:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 379 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 04:17:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 365 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 04:17:35 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 04:17:35 -0000 Received: from Speedex33@aol.com (8028) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iZRa002301; Tue, 11 May 1999 22:44:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Speedex33@aol.com Message-ID: <8a5487b3.246a4503@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 22:44:19 EDT Subject: Re: Re: VORG? To: natasha426@hotmail.com, Speedex33@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Netmail sub 2 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, by saying it wasn't overcrowded as usual, i guess i should rephrase it by saying it wasn't as overcrowded as it usually is. I got bumped around a bit, but i've been at 2nd and Jackson when it was almost empty (Vibe Creation 2) and i still got bumped around. I had such a good time there cause i was in such a good mood from seeing like over 20 people from my old high school, which is pretty good considering it was a kinda small school waaaay out in Martinez. I only wish i had taken more pictures! Oh well, like i allways say, there will ALLWAYS be more raves!:) Well, see everyone at the next one!:) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 04:29:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5401 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 04:29:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 5388 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 04:29:15 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 04:29:15 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com (3959) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vGKGa03060 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 00:28:27 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: <155ef702.246a5d6b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 00:28:27 EDT Subject: Re: happy Hardcore To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk why does everyone have to have a justified reason for people liking different things... i mean.. why do you like what you like.. its because it makes you feel happy or good and is pleasant to you... so the answer would be the same for those who like happykore. I personally can barely stand the stuff (although there are a few infectious tunes out there) jungle (in general.. not all) is just as fast as happy hardcore just with different accentuated beats... if you don't like it... dont' listen to it.. get over it. If it makes someone feel good.. and they dig it.. let them.. :) Amber R From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 04:50:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18373 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 04:50:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 18364 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 04:50:10 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 04:50:10 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (88) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vMVHa13996 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 00:49:32 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <974a6336.246a625b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 00:49:31 EDT Subject: Joke time To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hehe make ya laff CHILDREN'S BOOKS YOU'LL NEVER SEE "You Are Different and That's Bad" "Dad's New Wife Timothy" "Pop! 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The changes need to come from the crowd. >> So to a certain degree a person's ignorance, a person who is exposed to the same old sheeeiiiit weekend after relentless weekend because that's all that's given to them, is responsible for the changes that take place in the ravin' community. True, to a certain extent, but it's a two-way street. A person's demands can only do so much (ex: the *BF - 1998* thread i read about a month ago where people were complaining/voicing opinions on that track, um, it didn't really change his love for that track, based on the response I read from a certain DJ who likes to play that track) , but it's also up to the DJ to go that *extra mile*.... to dig up some old, dusty, or shiny brand-new track and turn it into something new, something that goes *the extra mile.* Yadda yadda (6 more days til I turn 17 yeeehaw I'm still a squirt but hey who cares when you gotta C - A- R ? ) hehe.... Happy Wednesday and two mo' days til Friday! ---Miss Nexa--- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 05:05:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26221 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 05:05:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 26213 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 05:05:17 -0000 Received: from web705.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.25) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 05:05:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512050555.17931.rocketmail@web705.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.201.57] by web705.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 11 May 1999 22:05:54 PDT Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 22:05:54 -0700 (PDT) From: mike bolger Subject: but seriously, To: Paul*E*Wog , AlexG1029@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --- Paul*E*Wog wrote: > > > Some people need a good kick in the ass to wake up. > This scene is dead. > Sorry if you think its alive... The scene I know is > dead. What you see > now is the remains of a once thriving scene. The scene is dead. > > P.S. The scene is not what I make of it. it is what > WE make of it. And > we are not making anything of it. > ah, i see that you are suffering from some of the early stages of the 'progress' syndrome. it's one of the early warning signs before the scene consumes and spits you out. don't worry, it's always hurts the most the first time. the underground disco scene is a single and she always will be. she's freaky and misunderstood like James Brown, she's punk rock proud and sometimes sick like Janes Addiction, she's exotic and weird intelligent like Bjork, she's got moves like Jet-Li, and she fucks like Madonna. i'll say that again. the rave scene will take your affections, but she's not looking to be your girlfriend. this is an open relationship. she's gonna see other people. she's carefree like that and she's gonna have her flings and affairs and get naked in public and jump into an orgy or 2 at Burning Man and in her weaker moments she'll even have a 1 night stand with that homophobic tweaker guy who used to make slut jokes about her in public. try not to hate her for it. if you go into this relationship expecting it to be monogamous and with all these preconcieved notions of how "your" scene should behave and who She should see, you setting youself up for a hard fall. that's why they call it a crush. do you want to end up like all those jaded promoters that started out leaving voice messages about hugging trees and then left writing scene reports in Lotus magazine about shooting dogs in the head ? now see, personally, i wouldn't want to go out like that. this town is filled with romantic fools compeating for her affections, but none of them can touch my track record. i've allways been the victim of these grand over-the-top romantic gestures and made a fool out of myself many, many, times by performing grand gestures where i'm not wanted, so i can speak from some experience on these matters. but seriously, if you want to see more of her give something of yourself. throw your own party, learn how to beat match, put out your own fanzine, get a copy of photoshop or quark. it can be a great excuse to meet people. and Paul, sorry about throwing that 'trashy bitches' comment back in your face. that was out of line. my karma's fucked up enough as it is without me talking about bitches on sfraves. Bolger > AlexG1029@aol.com wrote: > > > > okey i know that Paul is the king of sarcasm but > as much as i tried to look > > for some in this last post i couldnt find any > > are u seriously serious Paul? cuz if u are then i > suggest u look again > > this scene is what YOU make of it > > im not talkin about everybody else im talkin about > YOU and what u make of the > > scene for urslef > > while i agree that some people are using this > scene in the stupidest way > > possible and destroyin it for everybody else it > doesnt mean that everybody is > > like that > > the sf scene is a really beautiful thing if u look > deep inside it > > example? just 2 weeks ago when Hi! got broken up > some 40-50 kids went lookin > > for a free party that was goin on somewhere around > daly city on the beach > > we didnt find it....guess what we did? we just sat > on the beach around a fire > > we formed a tight circle to keep each other warm > and just talked and chilled > > for the rest of the nite > > people who mostly didnt even know each other were > best friends for the nite > > the strongest of us hung around to watch the sun > go up....it was beautiful! > > thats where the real meanin of this scene is: in > unity > > yes half of the people there were on drugs but if > drugs are what it takes to > > achieve unity then hell im down with em > > only i dont think that drugs are what it > takes....its people > > people who have been touched by the unity and > opened up to it > > drugs are only there for the fun which all of us > love to have > > and yes some people abuse drugs and give our scene > a bad name but they > > shouldnt bother u unless u have the same drug > problem....is that the case > > Paul? > > would u rather have an e-tarded "candy-ass" come > up to u and give u a hug or > > some gangster stab u in the back? > > if all this scene does for u is disgust u with its > 2nd/jackson dirty floors > > and un-color-coordinated candy kids and the drugs > then u really should be out > > of it....but maybe u should try to see past all > that and find the real > > meanin: unity and love for ur each other > > isnt that what the world leaders say theyre > thrivin towards? only they think > > theyll achieve it by droppin bombs on each others > heads > > well mr HARDCORE if u wanna join them and be out > of the scene ur more then > > welcome to....the scene will only benefit from it > > but u either get out or be in and dont pretend > like ur in and say things like > > u did on the background > > > > PeAcE OuT > > alEx =.) > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 05:26:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3531 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 05:26:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 3408 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 05:26:16 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 05:26:16 -0000 Received: from AlexG1029@aol.com (89) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHGTa05662; Wed, 12 May 1999 01:25:30 -0400 (EDT) From: AlexG1029@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 01:25:30 EDT Subject: Re: about Paul*E*Wog's comments on the scene To: sfraves@hyperreal.org CC: goodvibe@geocities.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk okey first of all i think i should introduce myself to Paul before proceedin after akp2@duke.edu (MacBunny) has described u i think we've met before were u at Kip's birthday party a few weeks ago? i was the tall guy with blond hair wearin a blue adidas sweatshirt....i think uve introduced urself to me but i didnt think that u were the same Paul....am i right? okey now that thats clear ill proceed i agree with u on some issues like that the scene is on the low right now BUT u have to admit that compared to everythin else it is still wonderful all the newbies comin in right now fall in love with it the same way as u did when u first started goin they dont know anythin better then what it is now and it still swallows them with its beauty no matter what all those bad things u talk about are u still gotta admit that the scene is beautiful and im gonna disagree with u again on the "u/we" issue who are WE? if everybody will keep sayin "we have to do somethin about the scene" nothin will EVER get done there is now WE....its U who has to do it only if everybody is responsible for THEMSELVES and their own trash and how much drugs they take and not to vandalize the venues and surroundings ONLY then the scene will start changin so all of u who are readin this stop sittin on ur butts and thinkin "we gotta do somethin" and start doin somethin URSELF....i know i am im not askin u to look past the negativity, im sayin that everybody should stop whinin about the old times, accept the current state of things and start workin towards changin those things for the better PeAcE OuT alEx =.) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 05:33:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6395 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 05:33:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 6385 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 05:33:45 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 05:33:45 -0000 Received: from Macias20@aol.com (324) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vEQYa26069 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 01:33:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Macias20@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 01:33:06 EDT Subject: NRR: RYAN'S birthday!!!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey everyone.. it's one of my best friends and fellow sfr's birthday today!!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY RYAN... you can all email him a great happy birthday at XRictusx @aol.com... we'll all be at First Light too.. so see you all krazee kidz there... MUAH RYAN.... LUV YA!!! valerie AKA sparkles From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 05:34:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7088 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 05:34:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 7080 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 05:34:19 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 05:34:19 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id AAA24819 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 00:33:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca5-108.ix.netcom.com(209.109.234.108) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma024743; Wed May 12 00:33:10 1999 Message-ID: <37392226.A07@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 22:39:53 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR: Other types of music Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Alright, I know we(the list) did this a while back, but I'm trying to bring it back. Name off some music(singers, bands, artists, etc...) that you like that aren't techno/electronica music related. -Doran Doran -DM -Metelica( older stuff) -Lauren Hill -Def Tones -Doors -Ubiquitous From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 05:38:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9386 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 05:38:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 9378 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 05:38:40 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 05:38:40 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id AAA25127 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 00:37:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca5-108.ix.netcom.com(209.109.234.108) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma025112; Wed May 12 00:37:48 1999 Message-ID: <3739233B.4DE6@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 22:44:30 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: **urg**SORRY...NRR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok, I obviously I haven't been reading up on posts....Sorry!!! Peace Liz From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 05:43:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13529 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 05:43:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 13381 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 05:43:33 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 05:43:33 -0000 Received: from AlexG1029@aol.com (89) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHQZa26069 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 01:42:49 -0400 (EDT) From: AlexG1029@aol.com Message-ID: <820b4b08.246a6ed8@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 01:42:48 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: Other types of music To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk okey here goes: -nirvana -sublime -the offspring -older heavy metal stuff (Metallica, Iron Maden) -scorpions (only the ballads) -and a bunch of russian rock bands im sure yall navent heard about as u can see i used to be a rock/metal head....that is before i heard trance =) PeAcE OuT alEx =.) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 05:57:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23800 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 05:57:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 23784 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 05:57:30 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 05:57:30 -0000 Received: from DjShUbErT@aol.com (14409) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vDVRa02445; Wed, 12 May 1999 01:56:47 -0400 (EDT) From: DjShUbErT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 01:56:47 EDT Subject: Re: about Paul*E*Wog's comments on the scene To: AlexG1029@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org CC: goodvibe@geocities.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok i got a solution ...if you can handle Paul E Wogs posts read em and accept his opinions ..if you can then delete em ..easy as that Peace, Shubert From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 06:18:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3897 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 06:18:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 3885 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 06:18:07 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 06:18:07 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (8008) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vIPDa04196 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 02:17:19 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <93933c80.246a76ee@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 02:17:18 EDT Subject: BSP: Info for Ethereal! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Groove On Productions presents: Ethereal. An adventure in space and time: Pre-release party for Dj Soul Kid. Limited copies of the CD"Florida Grooves 1.0" will be available. Dont miss out. This Florida dj brings an unbelievable selection of tracks. Guaranteed to spin break beats like you have never heard before. Dont miss out, if you hear about it, it wont be the same. Just got off the phone with Dj David Hopper from Freedom Productions. David told me he will have 50 promotional tapes of his upcoming CD " INFLITEMUZIK" which will be available in June. Progressive house and trance. I only wish I could put into words the style and grace David spins with. David Hopper will be here many times more for us to pleasure here in the bay area. And believe me, he is big time. Funny story was at Davids birthday in Feb when he didnt let Kioki spin. Boy was Kioki mad. I got a big kick out of that. And many more of your local favorites. Check out this amazing line up. From start to finish in every room. Line up for Ethereal: Main room: Li 10-11 Dyloot 11-12:30 Micron 12:30-2 Soul Kid 2-3:30 David Hopper 3:30-5 Rm two: Mc Angel and Mc Duh! Dysfnshnl 10-11 Thorfio 11-12 Science 12-1:30 Megatron 1:30-3 Prophet 3-4 SNRGY 4-5 Loft Ruben Pantoja 10-11 Deepfog 11-1 AndyW 1-3 Triad 3-5 Info line 415-207-6283 or for directions call the club line @ 415-289-2001. 21+ $10.00 at the door. 550 Barneveld in SF. 10pm to 5am. Let the vibe begin! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 06:18:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4026 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 06:18:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 3895 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 06:18:09 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 06:18:09 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com (8061) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id uLPLa09694; Wed, 12 May 1999 02:14:51 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 02:14:51 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: Other types of music To: etraver@ix.netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk incubus depeche mode erasure new order kmfdm klf duran duran *can you say product of brittish 80's* tool afi my friends band 7th standard oleander... more friends..hehehe eminem the aquabats papa roach beastie boys young mc.. hehehe ( i love old skew..) paperboy... again hehehe i can go on and on.. but i won't <3 amber r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 06:23:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8501 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 06:23:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 8483 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 06:23:54 -0000 Received: from spazmo.peacedividend.com (HELO mail.peacedividend.com) (208.25.76.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 06:23:54 -0000 Received: from [208.25.76.70] (208.25.76.70) by mail.peacedividend.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.2.2); Tue, 11 May 1999 23:25:13 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: brendan@mail.peacedividend.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199905112027.NAA20892@mail.dsp.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 23:24:43 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Brendan Donohoe Subject: RE: NRR: Macs vs PCs Cc: Greg Adair Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Without stating a preference for either platform, I'd like to point out some common flaws and fallacies in this more-than-15-year-old Mac/Wintel argument. A huge part of the problem in the infamous platform war is the incredible amount of misinformation (on BOTH sides of the issue). Greg demonstrates this quite skillfully with his uninformed declarations below: >>G3 architecture = VERY GOOD >>MacOS = VERY BAD >>x86 architecture(includes pentium) = decent >>Windows 95/98 = BAD.. I cant decide if i have win9x or macos worse though. >>Windows NT = huge step over macos and win9x, but still pretty crappy.. The G3 architecture *is* very good, but more importantly it has a *lot* of future potential. The x86 architecture, in contrast, does not have such future potential. Processor technology is nearing physical limits. When you reach a certain scale of miniaturization, you start to hit physical limitations brought on by the molecular structure of the materials. At that point, making things smaller and faster doesn't cut it. You have to change the way the machinery works. That's the difference between the RISC architecture of the G3 and the older CISC architecture of the x86 series and the Motorola 68k. So while x86 is decent, it won't be for the foreseeable future. Turning our attention to Greg's eloquent two-word assessment of the Mac OS, we can see that Greg hasn't really paid much attention to the details of whatever OS he chooses to use. There are *many* different aspects to whether an OS is good or bad and no one OS can be classified as VERY GOOD or VERY BAD across all those aspects. For the sake of brevity, let's look at two commonly known aspects: usability and architecture. Mac OS beats all others hands down on usability/interaction. The underlying architecture, on the other hand, is outdated (much like the x86 architecture). Linux is an awesome OS under the hood, but for usability, it is only now beginning to catch up to Windows (95, 98, or NT). Windows 95/98 is a terrible architecture and suffers in the interaction arena. NT makes up for the architecture problems of 95/98, but does nothing for interaction and in many ways is worse than 95/98 and still doesn't have the architecture of Linux. Looking at lesser-used OSes (did he even consider those? Or was he too worried about winning a war no one else was fighting), BeOS has a pretty good architecture and okay interaction, but it also has the appearance of a bunch of OS ideas patched together and the seams aren't so smoothly covered. NeXTSTEP was an awesome OS (with a Unix chassis) and a damned good UI. Now that NeXTSTEP has become Mac OS X, it looks like it might continue to be an awesome architecture and gain the usability of MacOS (improved with NeXTSTEP's own influence). Greg goes on demonstrate another common flub when arguing platform wars: information so out of date, you wonder how often he looks up from that platform of his to see what's going on outside: >>now throw linux on a G3 and you have something... I just have a hard time >>paying twice as much for hardware that is marginally better (today.. >>tomorrow there will be something better anyway) PC prices and Mac prices have been competitive for years. When you compare prices of *similarly equipped* machines, there is little difference in out-of-pocket cost. When you add in support and maintenance costs, the Mac is cheaper by a long shot. Using such arguments only weakens an already flacid case by demonstrating a lack of knowledge on the subject at hand. >>>2) when the year 2000 hits, everything PC will explode while Macs let out >>>a great big yawn and casually go abou;t their day. Even Windows 98 has >>>serious Y2K problems. How do you make software for 1998 and not think >>>about 1999? >> >>Really?? Think so??? I guess i better move to the desert and stockpile >>weapons, because nuclear missles are gonna fire randomly too... This comment hardly warrants a response. How can you possibly defend Microsoft for such shoddy development? I don't care if the damage is minor or catastrophic; how can you knowingly ship software in 1998 that won't work after 1999? >>>3) USB was invented by Intel, Microsoft, and other PC manufacturers to >>>replace aging serial connections. >> >>Really?? My computer i bought 2 years ago had USB ports... 2 of em... a >>cheaper version, as in that they cost less ?? yeah... but USB is USB.. If >>it doesnt conform to the USB standard, it is not USB.. Not so. Just as not all PCI slots are alike, not all RAM slots are alike, and not all SCSI ports are alike, not all USB are created equal (some are more equal than others). >>>4) Firewire is thanks to Apple. Apple brought SCSI into this world and >>>Apple's taking it out. >> >>apple did not invent SCSI... SCSI has been around for a very long time.. I >>have SCSI drives in my PC, and my roomate had IDE drives in his >>powerbook.. >>And apple didnt not invent firewire... PC's have had it just as long.. >>although, a company did just put out firewire hard drives for the mac >>only, and they kick ass, but they are SOOO expensive, and 8gb max at this >>point... Whether or not Apple invented SCSI, the DID popularize it LONG before Wintel machines adopted it for its superiority over IDE. On the flipside, Apple finally realized after a number of years that not all users need the performance of SCSI and some actually *prefer* the lower cost of IDE. Oh, and yes, Apple DID invent firewire. They submitted it to IEEE to become a standard, but because they own the patents, firewire manufacturers must pay a licensing fee to Apple. Again, do your research before blurting things out and you'll have a much stronger argument (of course, if you did your research, you might not feel the need to argue such minor points). >>>5) Quicktime movies take up almost no space and have excellent image >>>quality while Microsoft's .AVI format is fat and clunky and looks like >>>watching TV from across the sreet. >> >>Really?? if you scale down the quality on your .avi's they get blocky and >>look like .mpg's... wow... great observation.. quicktimes can be viewed >>on PC's and avi's can be viewed on the macos... i dont see a problem.. >>oh yeah.. and in the next version of quicktime, they gave up on using >>their own sound compression and shelled out the $$ to licence GOOD sound >>compression ala mp3... Actually, QuickTime is a much better format than AVI- that's why it's so popular with professional digital video applications on both platforms. Microsoft has been trying to duplicate QuickTime for years without success. They finally tried to resort to their usual strong-arm tactics and failed there as well. Either way, it should say something to you that MPEG-4 is based on QuickTime. >>God i hate that chime... I guess a customizable interface is sorta >>difficult for someone who isnt resourceful enough to figure out how to >>customize it to their satisfaction.. Customization is Microsoft's excuse for poor interface design. They can't do it right (and I don't know why; they certainly employ enough interface designers), so they leave it up the user to sort out the mess. Unfortunately, they can't even get the customization right and so users wind up frustrated by interfaces that fall apart at the slightest touch (but it's all in the name of CUSTOMIZATION!). Having interfaces that adapt to the user or the task is one thing, but it's no excuse for bad design. >>>9) a 400mhz G3 is still faster than a dual pentium II 450, which is now >>>like two horses trying to pull a jet instead of one. >> >>faster eh??? comparing apples to oranges again... the g3 is faster at >>some things, and the pentium II is faster at other things... True, each processor excels in some areas and not in others, but we're not comparing apples and oranges. To compare apples and oranges would be to say that the PII 450 must be faster because 450 is more than 400. When saying that the 400 is faster than the 450, another scale of measurement is being used (such as SpecInt, SpecFP, etc.) that measures the processor performance, not megahertz. >>>10) The New Pentium III. It's bigger, and sucks more power, but now it >>>has more instruction sets (part of its problem in the first place). Some >>>PC users have spread rumors that the P3 is a RISC chip, like the G3s or >>>SGIs. If you believe that shit, then you also believe the P3 is the path >>>to "faster internet." >> >>It isnt any bigger.. it doesnt suck more power... having more >>instructions doesnt slow anything down... all the instructions are just as >>fast as they were in the pentium 2.. It just allows you to do some things >>faster... what kinda moron would call a pentium chip RISC??? sounds like >>some stupid writer that writes uninformed articles... oh yeah... SGI >>stopped making their own CPU's a year or two ago.. what are they putting >>in their machines now??? are those INTEL processors??? I believe they >>are!! Thankfully, Greg saved the best for last. The Pentium III is HUGE. Have you actually seen one Greg? The chip is physically ENORMOUS and it sucks PLENTY more power. The heat sink on this chip is absurd. In fact, each new generation of Pentium has gotten progressively larger, progressively hotter, and uses more power. And more instructions DOES make the chip slower. That's the whole point of RISC: it's Reduced Instruction Set Computing that allows the chip to process more data faster. That's why CISC chips are on a collision course. BTW, SGI chose Intel for a whole lot of reasons that have little to do with their popularity in Wintel machines. They need multiple processors, protected memory, preemptive multitasking, and server reliability, among other reasons. Most of their power comes from custom graphics chips anyway, not from the CPU. The point of all this is that there are countless reasons to love or hate any OS and any hardware. I use just about every OS I can get my hands on, simply for the experience, the knowledge, and the insight gained. Responding to a light-hearted, Macintosh-biased opinion piece that was posted as humor, not as a statement of superiority, Greg Adair defensively said: >>Not to get in a big tech argument or anything.. This is a rave list, not >>slashdot.org, but i couldnt resist making a few comments since this list >>was obviously compiled from a bunch of marketing BS, and is mostly >>buzzwords and very little substance... The author did do a great job of >>flaunting her lack of knowledge, but it was good entertainment, which was >>probably the aim.. What a disclaimer. "Don't bother to respond to the rant you're about to read; I don't want to argue because I've already decided I'm right." With that said, he moves straight on to the important part: he has taken *GREAT* offense to a simple humor/opinion piece. Such bold statements can mean only one thing: insecurity with his platform of choice and the need to defend it, even when no one has mounted an attack. When one flies off the handle, angrily defending something which no one has attacked, especially when so woefully uninformed, you only wind up looking foolish. Brendan -- Brendan Donohoe User Interface Designer, Adobe Systems bdonohoe@adobe.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 06:24:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9074 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 06:24:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 8999 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 06:24:09 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 06:24:09 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (8008) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vAJWa05663 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 02:23:05 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 02:23:05 EDT Subject: Visuals for Ethereal To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I forgot, sorry Stefan. Mind blowing visuals by Stefan G and Culture Lab Visuals. He has some great stuff in store for us. I cant wait. Peace, M Groove On From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 06:26:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10413 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 06:26:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 10403 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 06:26:53 -0000 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (140.142.33.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 06:26:53 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id XAA05051; Tue, 11 May 1999 23:24:14 -0700 Message-ID: <02c701be9c40$2cc1f020$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: "Jess ica" , "Madhvi Dalal" , , "SFraves peeps" Subject: Re: Funnies Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 23:24:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk My personal fave about beer (told to me by a Canadian on a ski lift):: Q: How are American beer and having sex in a canoe similar? *************** *************** A: They are both fucking close to water. Peace, a round on me, Alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- She wants a good life, No man to cause her pain and strife. -=- Cocoa Tea -----Original Message----- From: Jess ica To: Madhvi Dalal ; johnr@hrg.com ; SFraves peeps Date: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 3:46 PM Subject: Re: Funnies >Your right, this was a funny one, my particular favorite: > >>Why is American beer served cold? So you can tell it from urine. >>* David Moulton > >Ummm thank you :) > >--- Madhvi Dalal wrote: >> A RIOT!!! I personally don't partake of the stuff >> but this made me laff! >> >> >> hugz & starz >> >> madhvi >> >> >> >> >> >> >> At 03:18 PM 5/11/99 -0700, John Rodriguez wrote: >> >Subject: Ode to a frosty mug... >> > >> >I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they >> wake up in the >> >morning, that's as good as they're going to feel >> all day. >> > * Frank Sinatra >> > >> >The problem with some people is that when they >> aren't drunk, they're >> >sober. >> > * William Butler Yeats >> > >> >An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk >> to spend time with >> >his fools. * Ernest Hemingway >> > >> >Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That >> will teach you to >> >keep your mouth shut. * Ernest Hemingway >> > >> >You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor >> without holding on. >> >* Dean Martin >> > >> >Drunk is feeling sophisticated when you can't say >> it. >> >Anonymous >> > >> >No animal ever invented anything as bad as >> drunkenness - or as good >> >as drink. * G.K. Chesterton >> > >> >Time is never wasted when you're wasted all the >> time. >> >*Catherine Zandonella >> > >> >Abstainer: a weak person who yields to the >> temptation of denying >> >himself a pleasure. * Ambrose Bierce >> > >> >Reality is an illusion that occurs due to lack of >> alcohol. * Anonymous >> > >> >Drinking provides a beautiful excuse to pursue the >> one activity that >> >truly gives me pleasure, hooking up with fat hairy >> girls. * Ross Levy >> > >> >A woman drove me to drink and I didn't even have >> the decency to thank >> >her. What contemptible scoundrel has stolen the >> cork to my lunch? >> >* W.C. Fields >> > >> >Beauty lies in the hands of the beer holder. * >> Anonymous >> > >> >Work is the curse of the drinking classes. * Oscar >> Wilde >> > >> >When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up >> reading. >> > * Henny Youngman >> > >> >>BBUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRPPPP!!!!! >> > >> >* Booger, "Revenge of the Nerds" >> > >> >Life is a waste of time, time is a waste of life, >> so get wasted all of >> >the time and have the time of your life. * >> Anonymous >> > >> >I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a >> frontal lobotomy. * Tom >> >Waits >> > >> >24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence? >> * Stephen Wright >> > >> >When we drink, we get drunk. When we get drunk, we >> fall asleep. When we >> >fall asleep, we commit no sin. When we commit no >> sin, we go to heaven. >> >Sooooo, let's all get drunk, and go to heaven... * >> Brian O'Rourke >> > >> >(After finding out he was having twins) >> >Drinks are on the house!!!! * Brian Flanigan >> > >> >You can't be a real country unless you have a beer >> and an airline-it >> >helps if you have some kind of a football team, or >> some nuclear weapons, >> > >> >but at the very least you need a beer. * Frank >> Zappa >> > >> >Always remember that I have taken more out of >> alcohol than alcohol has >> >taken out of me. * Winston Churchill >> > >> >He was a wise man who invented beer. * Plato >> > >> >Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be >> happy. * Benjamin >> >Franklin >> > >> >If you ever reach total enlightenment while >> drinking beer, I bet it >> >makes beer shoot out your nose. * Deep Thought, >> Jack Handy >> > >> >Without question, the greatest invention in the >> history of mankind >> >is beer. Oh, I grant you that the wheel was also a >> fine invention, but >> >the wheel does not go nearly as well with pizza. * >> Dave Barry >> > >> >The problem with the world is that everyone is a >> few drinks behind. >> > * Humphrey Bogart >> > >> >Why is American beer served cold? So you can tell >> it from urine. >> >* David Moulton >> > >> >Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer >> the world. *Kaiser >> >Wilhelm >> > >> >I've got a tip for selling more beer, fill the >> fookin' glass. * Tony >> >Gallagher >> > >> >I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of >> sweet beer. *Homer >> >Simpson >> > >> >Not all chemicals are bad. Without chemicals such >> as >> >hydrogen and oxygen, for example, there would be >> no way to make water, >> >a vital ingredient in beer. * Dave Barry >> > >> >I drink to make other people interesting. * George >> Jean Nathan >> > >> >All right, brain, I don't like you and you don't >> like me so let's >> >just do this and I'll get back to killing you with >> beer. *Homer Simpson >> > >> > >> > >> >God damn I want a beer now... >> >john r >> > >> > >> > >> > >Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 06:30:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12396 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 06:30:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 12384 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 06:30:45 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 06:30:45 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA04625; Tue, 11 May 1999 23:18:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905120618.XAA04625@mail.netwiz.net> To: mike bolger cc: Paul*E*Wog , AlexG1029@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, groovi-music@netwiz.net Subject: Re: but seriously, In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 11 May 1999 22:05:54 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 23:18:59 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Mike -- That was a most excellent post, and an enlightening perspective... but you really made me wonder -- who are you talking about, with this one: > do you want to end up like all those jaded > promoters that started out leaving voice messages about hugging trees > and then left writing scene reports in Lotus magazine about shooting > dogs in the head ? now see, personally, i wouldn't want to go out like > that. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 06:31:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13283 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 06:31:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 13275 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 06:31:56 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 06:31:56 -0000 Received: from TriXXXXe4@aol.com (8021) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vALMa09695 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 02:31:24 -0400 (EDT) From: TriXXXXe4@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 02:31:24 EDT Subject: ***paging MIKEY*** To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Mikey call me tomorrow I will know whats up with this weekend....... I might just chill here bein homealone aint bad heehee* *****S(W)(E)E(T) DREAMS****** Love Linz OOo SHAAY I talked to bradlee.....everything is aiight.............K......? No WoRrieZ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 06:55:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22275 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 06:55:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 22266 invoked by uid 233); 12 May 1999 06:55:03 -0000 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 23:55:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Lara To: BigM009@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Rollin' in the park In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Marty has some really GOOD GOOD points that you should all take into consideration here people! I'd elaborate, but time is NOT on my side this week *grumble* Love, Lara ---- "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." -- Oscar Wilde On Mon, 10 May 1999 BigM009@aol.com wrote: > My point was this. I don't knock or condone drug use. But SFR is not the > place to brag about doing drugs whether it be at 420 in the after noon or 420 > in the morning. ( no pun intended with the 420 euphemism.) Life isn't about > drugs, and IMHO it seems that there is a large populous that revolves around > drug use. SFR is about information and pertinent topics. Music, events, > social issues (which can include drug discussion, but shouldn't include > bragging), and etc... > > Responsibility doesn't lay in PLUR. And all this preaching about PLUR, IMHO > is bull shit. You either believe in the values of PLUR because that's who > you are or you don't. Not because, at this moment in your life your into the > "scene." I read so many posts that are so contradictory. One minute flaming > someone or something, then the next saying PLUR. Lend a hand to someone who > really needs it outside the "scene" then come and talk to me about PLUR. > Values and beliefs are what make us all individuals. Its not about conforming > to a single identity. Try and learn what PLUR means to you and believe in it. > Not just when your raving either. > > And to the person who emailed me and said my posts were worthless and he had > been waiting for days to email me and tell me so. Unless you can say more > than that. Save it for your alter ego. Your a waist of my time. Im not > perfect, nor do I claim to be. I just get tired of all the crap that goes on > around here. And if I happen to speak up about it then I do. I have received > plenty other emails from others on the list who feel the same way. A lot more > than the person who emailed me and said my post were worthless. > > That's all I have to say right now. Ill open my big mouth more later. I have > work to do. > > Peace, M > > Groove On > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 07:15:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28268 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 07:15:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 28259 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 07:15:38 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 07:15:38 -0000 Received: from Anachra@aol.com (7817) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vQRTa06446 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 03:14:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Anachra@aol.com Message-ID: <4bf7c382.246a846f@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 03:14:55 EDT Subject: Re: but seriously, To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk and there we have it folks! a most beautiful metaphor in my book. and karma not PLUR...beautiful...the PLUR monkeys will come down and carry no one away this time, oh no...really though...i seldom respond to posts here, because by and large i don't have anything constructive to say, or because on some rare and pleasant occasions someone (see snippets below) manages to say it just how i would have said it myself...had i the eloquence and the gumption to do so....hazaah! spacey > the underground disco scene is a single and she always will be. she's > freaky and misunderstood like James Brown, she's punk rock proud and > sometimes sick like Janes Addiction, she's exotic and weird intelligent > like Bjork, she's got moves like Jet-Li, and she fucks like Madonna. and Paul, sorry about throwing that 'trashy bitches' comment back in your face. that was out of line. my karma's fucked up enough as it is without me talking about bitches on sfraves. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 07:20:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 649 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 07:20:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 626 invoked by uid 233); 12 May 1999 07:20:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 19623 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 03:53:49 -0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 03:53:49 -0000 Received: from wenet.net (root@libya-210.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.210]) by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with ESMTP id UAA18839; Tue, 11 May 1999 20:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905120353.UAA18839@smtp.wenet.net> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 20:55:29 -0700 From: boing <"b-young"@wenet.net (remove -)> Organization: boingdom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.35 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Gill , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: EQUIP: Turntable Purchase?? References: <3738ADBE.82ED03D6@prodigy.net> <00f201be9bff$3c03cb80$162b0a0a@efi.com> <3738BFD8.4937805E@prodigy.net> <3738C7F1.A989A9F@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Chris Gill wrote: > > Check this link out for info on the various 1200s and the new 1300. > > http://1200s.com > > If you can contact someone in Japan, 1200 MKIIIs sell for about $350-$400 over > there. In addition to the pitch stop override, the MKIII has much higher torque and > comes up to full speed almost instantly. 1200s have gotten expensive pretty > quickly--I bought two gray-market 1210s (same as a 1200 but with a black top > instead of silver) on Canal St. in Manhattan in '97 for $249 each. mkiii is available in the stateside (i suspect you'll pay more than $400/piece here though) b- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 08:05:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16984 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 08:05:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 16961 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 08:05:07 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 08:05:07 -0000 Received: from Fine19boy@aol.com (8015) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vZIFa26070 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 04:04:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Fine19boy@aol.com Message-ID: <16d89459.246a900b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 04:04:27 EDT Subject: Fwd: Raver definitions To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_16d89459.246a900b_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_16d89459.246a900b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't know if this has been on here before but I thought it was cute. a friend from Florida raves list sent it to me :) --part1_16d89459.246a900b_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: MADROX0@aol.com From: MADROX0@aol.com Full-name: MADROX0 Message-ID: <16d89459.246a866c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 03:23:24 EDT Subject: Fwd: definitions To: Fine19boy@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part2_16d89459.246a866c_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 --part2_16d89459.246a866c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part2_16d89459.246a866c_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-yg03.mx.aol.com (rly-yg03.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.3]) by air-yg05.mail.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:26:21 -0400 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu (rumpleteazer.UCSC.EDU [128.114.129.45]) by rly-yg03.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id TAA15115 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:26:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from am.UCSC.EDU (14642@am.UCSC.EDU [128.114.129.26]) by cats.ucsc.edu (8.8.6/8.8.4.cats-athena) with ESMTP id QAA10253; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chrissie@localhost) by am.UCSC.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8.cats-client) id QAA14659; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:26:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:26:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Christine Alyssa Klinkowski X-Sender: chrissie@am.UCSC.EDU To: mohrm@help4.corp.sgi.com, Cauac_5@hotmail.com, madrox0@aol.com, lori@fabmaster.com Subject: definitions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit According to the shiznit dictionary of biology and the study of the species. As found in the libraries of Raveantology. Raver : Species found primarily in the concrete jungle, found in packs and never hunts alone. Sometimes found in tiny fields on the outskirts of towns. You can tell them by their bright colors and their ritualistic dance. Men, somewhat scruffy loose clothing occasionally bright attributes. Women, Extremely colorful mostly the mild ones of the bunch, except those that are AMBER. Ravers are generally mild tempered and very friendly. Do not threaten a raver or the whole pack will attack. (ref. The recent fox attack) SUB SPECIES: Technoticus (those in the techno scene: they're like those indier-than-thou pavement/jesus and mary chain rock and rollers, the "misunderstood" ne'er do wells of the rave scene. the techno scene (as opposed to the jungle scene or trance scene) is pretentious as all hell. (copyright Fenster 1999) Junglelisticos (those in the jungle scene: known for erratic dance often involving flailing around on the ground. or spinning on the head. also more ferocious than the other's of course there are exceptions I. e. Gabberorial, those also of the dark step faith. Led by one specifically noted as Tabellione the seeming king of the jungle. Trancendants: (those in the trance scene: the calmer seemingly more intelligent of the bunch (ref Timothy Hilke) gathering in light shows and mist usually brighter in color than most. Seeming to move constantly 2 beats slower than the rest. They appear to be in the back of the pack but, that is the way they lead. COMMONLY referred to as Pussies. or dickus holsterus.... Houseuthians: (those in the house scene: a wild erratic bunch that roams everywhere and anywhere, there sounds can be heard almost everywhere, (ref cheesy commercials). The founders (although technos would disagree) of the pack. generally found bouncing in a swirl of colores that seemed to generate from their finger tips. Look for vol. 2 to cover the sub species of the sub species. Further look into the mysteries of the BADDEST MOTHER FUDGERS IN THE LAND. _____________________________________________________ florida-raves - florida-raves@ravedata.com http://www.florida-raves.org/ --part2_16d89459.246a866c_boundary-- --part1_16d89459.246a900b_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 08:25:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22332 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 08:25:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 22322 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 08:25:53 -0000 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (140.142.32.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 08:25:53 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id BAA01951 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 01:25:51 -0700 Message-ID: <00a901be9c51$26d91ec0$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: Subject: To all the hiphoppers in the Bay... Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 01:26:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I was just wondering if anyone could pretty please help me here... My friend wants to venture out into the Friggety-frisco (or even EB, etc) from SC, and attend some sort of hiphop club of sorts. Alas, she is only 19, but does anyone know of any club dealing in hiphop for 18+ or an all ages night? Any night will do. Does CityNights (!?) have a random hiphop night? Any info would be most appreciated, and rewarded with a lovely thank you email... Merci, Alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- She wants a good life, No man to cause her pain and strife. -=- Cocoa Tea From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 10:03:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17000 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 10:03:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 16988 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 10:03:27 -0000 Received: from www.concourse.net (HELO mail.concourse.net) (209.63.66.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 10:03:27 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (209.63.66.53) by mail.concourse.net with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Wed, 12 May 1999 02:08:00 -0800 Message-ID: <37395165.D6CB95D0@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 03:01:09 -0700 From: Paul Sober X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ravi Gadhia , SF Raves Subject: Re: Parties in Hong Kong??? References: <071901be9c20$dec21360$743f40ca@pc2.aureal.com.hk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk last time i was in hong kong ('95) i went out dancing (to a discoteque, :)) and it was a room full of happy young kids dancing thier sweet little hearts out to old pop music (top 40 but from the eighties) and just loving it. I had the best time. they were doing old 70's dance moves. my friends and i proceded to just dance how we felt (an easy thing when you're a hippy) and they were groovin on it. pretty soon, they saw how much fun we were having and started trying to copy us (imitate our moves) then realized we didn't have 'moves' and started just feeling the music as well. man, i totally forgot about that night. that was so fun. the dance parlor as they called it, was in the basement of a business building, and the only reason we found it was because some people had sent us to an expensive whore house that was on the same floor. oh, i forgot to tell you, see, i was in the marines, we made a port stop there. i totally forgot about that night. thanks for reminding me, but i'm sorry i couldn't help you. i'll be smiling all day now remembering those kids acting like john travolta. now that i think about it, that room would have made an awsome rave location, think about it, the basement of an office building, (read parking lot closed off because few people actually drive cars.) ok, maybe i'll try and get back to sleep now. :) paul p.s. i'm very interested in how the scene is there. could you let me know when you find out? Ravi Gadhia wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm an old-time SFRaver ('93). I'm living in Hong Kong > this summer. Does anyone have any contacts or leads > on the Hong Kong party scene??? > > Any and all info appreciated. Thanks in advance, > > Ravi Gadhia > rg@aureal.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 13:06:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22356 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 13:06:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 22345 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 13:06:29 -0000 Received: from diana.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.239) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 13:06:29 -0000 Received: from [130.212.201.109] (madmax-109.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.109]) by diana.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA13246 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 06:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <2ebbea1.246a1d3e@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 06:06:18 -0700 To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org From: Michael Standish Subject: Re: happy Hardcore Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 7:54 PM -0400 5/11/99, Abbo1234@aol.com wrote: >I like happy hardcore because it makes me happy! >Abby Word! HH makes me so fucking happy. I love spinning Happy Hardcore. I get all bouncy, and smiley; it's the best. House producers aren't putting out very many good rekkids. Trance is the same as ever, Jungle has gone stagnant, Plain old techno has been stagnant for hella years. Happy Hardcore kicks mother fucking ass. HH is what raving is all about. It gets back to the real deal. All happiness, and energy, and positive vibe. HH is about happy dancing, not, like some genres, largely about helping you trip out on whatever you've put in your body. 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Since everything is in our heads, we had better not lose them. ---Coco Chanel ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 14:36:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8652 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 14:36:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 8640 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 14:36:43 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 14:36:43 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (14414) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id dUJPa20910; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:34:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <2ed48b6.246aeb86@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:34:46 EDT Subject: Re: To all the hiphoppers in the Bay... To: awallace@u.washington.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/12/99 4:26:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, awallace@u.washington.edu writes: << My friend wants to venture out into the Friggety-frisco (or even EB, etc) from SC, and attend some sort of hiphop club of sorts. Alas, she is only 19, but does anyone know of any club dealing in hiphop for 18+ or an all ages night? Any night will do. Does CityNights (!?) have a random hiphop night? Any info would be most appreciated, and rewarded with a lovely thank you email... >> hmmm.... well city nites on i think friday or saturday nites is where u can find (dance)hip hop. but if u guys like underground shit then u guys might want to look out for flyers for parties that usually happen at the international center which is 50 oak st in sf. last weekend they had this dj thing called tablesturn and it was an open turntable nite and bboy showcase. also check out Dubphonik and some of the other parties thrown by jamalski or other promoters located at 78 minna. there are 18 and up hip hop events up there sometimes. oh and also at Eklectic, the jungle nite on thursdays, there is usually some hip hop down stairs if u are in the east bay u might want to check out this club called La Pena in berkeley on shattuk ave. they have hip hop shows there all the time but u got to check the calender for that. in the south bay they have underground shows at the Cactus Club in San Jose. usually they have better underground hip hop performers there because i always get jelouse of their lineups. other than that i have no idea of any other places....i got 9 more months til im the BIG 21...yay DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 14:52:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19194 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 14:52:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 19185 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 14:52:02 -0000 Received: from web118.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.99) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 14:52:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512145417.13922.rocketmail@web118.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.54.199] by web118.yahoomail.com; Wed, 12 May 1999 07:54:17 PDT Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 07:54:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: happy Hardcore To: JUNGurlE@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HUGZ & KISSEZ for Amber. Thanks girl. I was going to say this last night, but I think I was at my 6 post limit plus I was super tired. =Þ *HUGZ* pat --- JUNGurlE@aol.com wrote: > why does everyone have to have a justified reason > for people liking different > things... i mean.. why do you like what you like.. > its because it makes you > feel happy or good and is pleasant to you... so the > answer would be the same > for those who like happykore. > > I personally can barely stand the stuff (although > there are a few infectious > tunes out there) > > jungle (in general.. not all) is just as fast as > happy hardcore just with > different accentuated beats... > > if you don't like it... dont' listen to it.. get > over it. If it makes > someone feel good.. and they dig it.. let them.. :) > > Amber R > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 15:20:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9683 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 15:20:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 9659 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 15:20:47 -0000 Received: from web808.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 15:20:47 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512152344.22474.rocketmail@web808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web808.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 12 May 1999 08:23:44 PDT Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 08:23:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Nrr: R.I.P. Tim Brauch To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Life is too short and precious, remember that when you wake up every morning and look outside to the sun shining and the birds chirping, remember the value of that moment, and each one to follow... I never knew Tim Brauch but I have friends who idoled him, and were very upset by his death. If you are into skating at all you would know who he was. 25 years old,obviously full of life and energy one day and now he is gone. If anyone is interested there is a memorial piece that was done for him yesterday at Greer Park in Palo Alto. www.mercurycenter.com/premium/local/docs/brauch12.htm Hug the ones you love, dont forget to tell them how much you care. LoveU, Jessica Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 15:45:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5488 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 15:45:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 5431 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 15:45:01 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 15:45:01 -0000 Received: from [192.68.228.2] (HELO mattdntbusapp) by mogwaicom.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 2.9b5) with SMTP id 640446; Wed, 12 May 1999 08:46:30 -0700 Message-ID: <00bf01be9c8e$69884560$162b0a0a@efi.com> From: To: "AndyW" , "Paul*E*Wog" Cc: , "*warmth* discussion list" References: Subject: Re: about Paul*E*Wog's / AndyW's comments on the scene Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 08:45:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk With people like AndyW in this scene, with responses like his last one, I in no way do I feel the seen is dead. I do at time get discouraged, but after reading posts like AndyW's, I feel warm, fuzzy, and re-energized and want to put even more energy back into the scene. When the you feel the scene is lost, dead, just not worth it anymore, read one of AndyW's posts, or talk to Red-Stickman (AKA Bio-Logic Founder) or see one of his posts to a negative event in his life (i.e.: Car Getting Broken Into) and you may change you views of the scene and the people that are a part of it. Ask not what your scene can do for you, but what you can do for your scene! Signed, Matthew Lewis Downer On this Twelfth day of May, Nineteen Hundred Ninety Nine ----- Original Message ----- From: AndyW To: Paul*E*Wog Cc: Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 7:18 PM Subject: Re: about Paul*E*Wog's comments on the scene > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > > On Tue, 11 May 1999, Paul*E*Wog wrote: > > -&e->I am just stirring up shit and hoping that people will stop ignoring the > -&e->negative in this scene. If everyone keeps looking past all the negative > -&e->bullshit then it will never be dealt with. Stop ignoring all the crap > -&e->that goes on in this scene. PLUR is not going to solve the problems. > > You're right. Plur says nothing about DIY, about throwing free renegades > in places that you might end up wearing handcuffs for, about spinning a > different set every time you play out, about trying when it seems like > nobody's listening, about having double the prop/light/laser/dj budget as > other parties charging the same ticket price, about going the extra mile > even though there isn't an extra dollar in doing so. > > -&e->Some people need a good kick in the ass to wake up. This scene is dead. > -&e->Sorry if you think its alive... The scene I know is dead. What you see > -&e->now is the remains of a once thriving scene. Imagine the positive points > -&e->of this community X 10. That is what i know. That is now what i see. I > -&e->am sure before me... the scene was even better. Still, what i know of > -&e->the scene is better than what we have now. > > Specifically, why? Paul, not to be an ass, but you might have looked like > them to me when you first started out, and you 'turned out' okay... I'd > even go so far as to say I like you nowadays. You're a nice guy... even > with the fur. > > -&e->Wake up... don't lie to yourself. The scene is dead. The music has died. > -&e->It's the same repetitive bullshit over and over. As long as promoters > -&e->keep booking the same DJs over and over again we will never bring back > -&e->the life to this party. > > Especially if those DJs play the same tired records from the same tired > genre in the same tired order. You know who you are, and you're no better > than snake oil salesmen, charlatans, carnies pulling one over on the > crowd. Playing DATs when they claim to be spinning live, telling others > DJs not to play "their" signature tracks (despite having nothing to do > with writing or producing them in any way), covering labels, making > mixtapes using software instead of a mixer and a pair of decks, or playing > the same canned set night after night in the same city... hoping everbody > in the crowd is high enough to not notice the fact that it's the same old > same old. I'm not saying stop spinning, but I AM saying try a little bit > harder, people can tell. There are people who love what you do, give that > sentiment back with as much creativity, practice and love as you can > muster. > > So I'll agree with you there Paul... > > -&e->Where is the spirituality. Where are the kids on soap boxes telling the > -&e->people how it is? Where is the knowledge? This scene has gotten stupid. > -&e->The tripping mentality is gone. Welcome to the fucked up on drugs > -&e->mentality... > > What I'm asking is: Where is the self-respect mentality? It's not a > question of what drugs people are taking, it's a question of what they're > all about in the first place. To be honest, even the noblest "tripping > mentality" finds alleys of your mind that will be familiar after a while > and not yield those insights you once found so amazing... some people get > high for knowledge, some for curiosity, some for escape, some just cause > it feels good, some cause they don't know another way, and some just > choose not to use. I can't judge those reasons, but I can ask that people > be careful and use drugs in a way that they'll be here to see the sun rise > tomorrow and hope that registers. > > -&e->Realize and stop looking past the negativity. Change it now so there > -&e->will be something to dance to later... > > Working on it. So are a lot of other people who LOVE it when it still > happens for them. People like Radley Marx who gets a slot at Skills and > calls me up to offer to split the slot with me cause he thinks 2x4ing is > just plain fun, or Bobby from Honey who paid all the DJs gas money after > they agreed to play for free, or Jahsh who has driven my sound system > around the world like five times now and asked little in return, or Greg > Sandler who has valued my opinions despite me being just a whiny stinking > newbie DJ, or the crazy bastards who spend hours burying power cable at a > campout party so nobody trips over it, or any DJ who stays committed to a > free booking when they could have dropped that for a paying one, or the > promoter who knocks a couple bucks off the price when they know they could > charge more, or the kid who decides to buy herself a water and decides to > get another one for the guy who has been dancing for three hours straight > and hasn't opened his eyes once just to be nice. As long as there is > integrity and love of the scene, we're fine... and despite seeing a lot of > things I'd rather not, I still see those moments that bring me back often > enough to keep doing it.... moments that are pretty unique to the rave > scene. > > The funny part about all of this is, it's a catch 22. The scene is > amazing, as long as we all feel we belong, and we're all in love with it. > When the air is full of criticism, the magic starts to disappear. The > divisions along lines of junglist and goahead, of househead and > trancehead, hardcore and techno, of UG and massive are all as fucking lame > as the day is long. I've heard a lot of people say exactly what you're > saying lately, and I heard people saying similar things years before... it > can't stay the same, the 'scene' is as alive as we are. Some will stay > and some will go. There are those who will draw energy from the scene and > walk away when they don't feel it anymore, and there are those who > continue to add creativity, risk, effort, and their various personal gifts > selflessly in order to keep it as vibrant and beautiful as the night they > discovered in a haze of blacklit awe and unfamiliarity. > > We are freaks, fuckups, weirdos, lame asses, candy trash, cynical > technobastards and every other explicative you can think of. But we do > things that are extraordinary, that teach that there's another way. If > that's too "hippy" then fine, but that's why I keep doing it. > > Peace, > AndyW > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 16:04:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23807 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 16:04:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 23775 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 16:04:10 -0000 Received: from web801.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.61) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 16:04:10 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512160856.18057.rocketmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web801.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 12 May 1999 09:08:56 PDT Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:08:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Nrr: Ughh, not another...RIP To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Sorry to be the barrer of all this bad news, and I know its nrr but one of my favorite writers died Monday, Shel Silverstein (11/23/32-5/10/99) Here is one of his writings I enjoy: THE MAN WHO GOT NO SIGN Now Gemini Jim and Scorpio Sal They was livin' by the Golden Gate Freezin' their nose and wearin'leather clothes And dealin' every way but straight. They had a Leo dog and a Capricorn cat, And everything was goin' fine 'Till into their life on a moonless night Come the man who got no sign. Well he blew right in like on some evil wind, And he rolled himself a righteous smoke As the thunder crashed and the lightnin' flashed, He took a toke and spoke. Said he was born in an astrological warp When the stars refused to shine On the cusp of Nowhere and nevermore. He's the man who got no sign. Then he told a story of his endless search To find his missing part, And Sal she sits and smiles at him And tries to do his chart Till Pisces Ben, who was Jim's best friend Said, "Man, you must be blind. You better grab your knife and take the life Of this man who got no sign." (And so it happened.) The arrest was made by Sheriff Slade, An Aquarius through and through. And the jailer was a Sagittarius. She he beaat Jim black and blue Then they dragged him up the courthouse steps. They said, "Jim how do you plea?" He said, "Man, the moon's in Virgo So the blame don't fall on me." The jury all was Libras, So you know they was more than fair. But his lawyer was an Aries, Ad an Aries just don't care. The judge he was a Cancer, And Cancers have no friends. But the hangman was a Taurus, And that's where the circle ends... Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 16:16:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3451 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 16:16:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 3340 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 16:16:17 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 16:16:17 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-74.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.74]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA21016; Wed, 12 May 1999 09:16:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990512145046.006d01d0@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:50:46 -0500 To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org From: Nuku Subject: Re: EQUIP: Turntable Purchase?? Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Alright this might sound a bit frugal, but there is a major price hike on shit in SF. When I called GC in San Diego like in January, Technics ran for $324 a piece it had no needle but like you can always buy needles, in fact I am sure if you asked, the needles would be cheaper also. Thats what I'm sayin Nuku "Who wants a rewind, make some noise for the rewind, who wants a rewind, who wants a rewind, gawdammit gimme a rewind!" --Duh At 03:29 PM 5/11/99 -0700, you wrote: >Greetings, > >I just got off the phone w/ Leo's in oakland on >Telegraph. They quoted me $532.00 plus tax for the >1200mk2, including needle. Or $339.00, each for 2 >1200mk2 fixed by there in house repair tech. those >come w/ a 30 day money back guarentee. > >Then I called Guitar Center in El Cerrito, and was >quoted 1000 for 2 1200 mk3, but you would have to >place an order and they will be in in 3 weeks. Anyone >have a suggestions on what I should do? > > >or any other places to look....I'm thinking i'd >rather purchase them new. thanks for any help. > >=)jer > > > >=== >Jeremy B. Bispo >Member Support Specialist >Cybergold, Inc. >2921 Adeline >Berkeley CA 94703 >510.845.5000 ext. 126 > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 16:35:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21778 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 16:35:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 21461 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 16:35:31 -0000 Received: from wya-oe10.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.75) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 16:35:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 11615 invoked by uid 0); 12 May 1999 16:36:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512163618.11614.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.250.189.180 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 May 1999 09:36:17 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.250.189.180] From: "ve anne" To: nuku@sfsu.edu, mercutio@cloudfactory.org Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: EQUIP: Turntable Purchase?? Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:36:17 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk you should all be jealous i got a new sl-1200mk3d for $449 :) neener neener neener hehe j/k veanne From: Nuku To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: EQUIP: Turntable Purchase?? Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:50:46 -0500 Alright this might sound a bit frugal, but there is a major price hike on shit in SF. When I called GC in San Diego like in January, Technics ran for $324 a piece it had no needle but like you can always buy needles, in fact I am sure if you asked, the needles would be cheaper also. Thats what I'm sayin Nuku "Who wants a rewind, make some noise for the rewind, who wants a rewind, who wants a rewind, gawdammit gimme a rewind!" --Duh At 03:29 PM 5/11/99 -0700, you wrote: >Greetings, > >I just got off the phone w/ Leo's in oakland on >Telegraph. They quoted me $532.00 plus tax for the >1200mk2, including needle. Or $339.00, each for 2 >1200mk2 fixed by there in house repair tech. those >come w/ a 30 day money back guarentee. > >Then I called Guitar Center in El Cerrito, and was >quoted 1000 for 2 1200 mk3, but you would have to >place an order and they will be in in 3 weeks. Anyone >have a suggestions on what I should do? > > >or any other places to look....I'm thinking i'd >rather purchase them new. thanks for any help. > >=)jer > > > >=== >Jeremy B. Bispo >Member Support Specialist >Cybergold, Inc. >2921 Adeline >Berkeley CA 94703 >510.845.5000 ext. 126 > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 16:37:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23672 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 16:37:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 23637 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 16:37:43 -0000 Received: from pohl.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 16:37:43 -0000 Received: from godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.46]) by pohl.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id MAA04679; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:33:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA12358; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:33:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:33:02 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu To: Speedex33@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: The X - Files on ACID???? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yeah, but in the end when they were being taken away in the ambulance, why weren't there any paremdics or equipment in the back of the ambulance with them? it ends there, so i think they're still trippin underneath the ground. much love, amber "i only watch tv to see x-files and star trek and ricky lake" mcquown --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 17:07:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21387 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 17:07:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 21368 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 17:07:50 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 17:07:50 -0000 Received: from [192.68.228.2] (HELO mattdntbusapp) by mogwaicom.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 2.9b5) with SMTP id 640475; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:09:19 -0700 Message-ID: <019801be9c99$fb7c9dd0$162b0a0a@efi.com> From: To: , References: Subject: Re: "invite only parties"? Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:07:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I would have to agree to this "word of mouth concept". I have used this approach on several occasions, and it has always been extremely successful! Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 6:20 PM Subject: Re: "invite only parties"? > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > I'm going to change the name of this post to "WORD OF MOUTH PARTIES" > Fuck big flyers and blatant self promotion. > Have a super UG word of mouth party. Haven't you noticed?? word gets around > in the scene.... > Tell a few friends that you're having a party and then let everyone find out > from there.. I like this concept.. People that need to know about it will,, > and Not an invitation only party, just one where everyone who really wants to > be there will put forth the effort to make it, not just show up at second and > jackson with their bunk drugs because, HEY! there's a party there every > weekend. > And think of all the money you'll save on flyers... you could like LOWER THE > COST OF THE TICKETS!!! > > what an idea.... > > hugs n'stuff, > trice the tekno diva > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 17:09:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23045 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 17:09:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 22944 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 17:08:57 -0000 Received: from zeus.digidesign.com (HELO digidesign.com) (199.182.65.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 17:08:57 -0000 Received: from earthlink.net ([152.165.137.67]) by digidesign.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA17910; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:07:40 -0700 Message-ID: <3739B4E6.478161CA@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:05:42 -0700 From: Chris Gill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ve anne CC: nuku@sfsu.edu, mercutio@cloudfactory.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: EQUIP: Turntable Purchase?? References: <19990512163618.11614.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk How about helping out our man Jeremy by letting him know where you got it for that price? Peace, Chris ve anne wrote: > you should all be jealous > i got a new sl-1200mk3d for $449 :) > > neener neener neener > hehe j/k > > veanne > > From: Nuku > To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org > CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: EQUIP: Turntable Purchase?? > Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:50:46 -0500 > > Alright this might sound a bit frugal, but there is a major price > hike on shit in SF. When I called GC in San Diego like in January, Technics > ran for $324 a piece it had no needle but like you can always buy needles, > in fact I am sure if you asked, the needles would be cheaper also. > > Thats what I'm sayin > > Nuku > > "Who wants a rewind, make some noise for the rewind, who wants a rewind, who > wants a rewind, gawdammit gimme a rewind!" > --Duh > > At 03:29 PM 5/11/99 -0700, you wrote: > >Greetings, > > > >I just got off the phone w/ Leo's in oakland on > >Telegraph. They quoted me $532.00 plus tax for the > >1200mk2, including needle. Or $339.00, each for 2 > >1200mk2 fixed by there in house repair tech. those > >come w/ a 30 day money back guarentee. > > > >Then I called Guitar Center in El Cerrito, and was > >quoted 1000 for 2 1200 mk3, but you would have to > >place an order and they will be in in 3 weeks. Anyone > >have a suggestions on what I should do? > > > > > >or any other places to look....I'm thinking i'd > >rather purchase them new. thanks for any help. > > > >=)jer > > > > > > > >=== > >Jeremy B. Bispo > >Member Support Specialist > >Cybergold, Inc. > >2921 Adeline > >Berkeley CA 94703 > >510.845.5000 ext. 126 > > > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 17:12:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27552 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 17:12:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 27496 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 17:12:40 -0000 Received: from jeter.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 17:12:40 -0000 Received: from godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.46]) by jeter.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id MAA05923; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:59:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA13648; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:59:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:59:02 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu To: SCiEnCe cc: AndyW , Paul*E*Wog , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: about Paul*E*Wog's comments on the scene In-Reply-To: <19990512032606.6736.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk And therein lies the problem. Why go the extra mile if you can get away with it being half-assed? If the the audience doesn't know any better, then they won't demand anything better. So kudos to Paul for AT LEAST being outspoken. I might not agree with everything he says, but he says it. but there a majority of us who DO know the difference. and unfortuanly we are the ones who are not out as much anymore, so again the ones left at parties ALL the time are the people who don't know any better. unfortunatly there are enough people in the scene that don't really know what to expect of a promoter that when the some of us who get tired of listening to the same old same old sets at a no effort party get tired of it and decided to do other things besides just partying, there is still a great backbone of support for those wack ass promoters and dj's. i have no solutions for this besides let time take it's course. we all have to be patient with this, as in everything in life because not everything comes instantaneously. things may look like it's all moving towards an even greater state of chaos, but i think the reality is that everything is moving towards a NEW equilibrium. and the keyword here is NEW. our scene has changed a lot since it began and in order for changes to happen, something must upset the balance and then everything must move towards the newer state of equilibrium. in the off time things get crazy, poeple complain that parties suck, the poeple suck the dj's suck, but everything will get better with time, especially now as we're seeing a lot of newer kids who may only see raving as a fad. i am not saying just sit on your ass and do nothing, but i am saying keep doing what you can to make the scene move towrads that happy medium again, but also be patient because changes do come slowly. patience is definitly a virtue here, and don't get so caught up in the negative that you overlook all the positive contributions poeple ARE making to this scene like andyW said. there are a lot of poeple out there doing good, throwing great parties, and you may be seeing a lot of the same dj's on lineups but have you also noticed that very recently we've been getting dj's from other places too? (traxx, justin long, halo, etc...) and there are dj's who spin every weekend but also put out very different sets unique to their own style. and for those of you who are older, who really take notice to the rush of younger poeple at parties, don't forget about the wonderful aray of weklies we have here, especially ones like ekletkic and houspitality which are letting in the 18-20 crowds, and which i think are more fun that just plain 21+ clubs. we may be seeing a lot of parts to our scene that we want to change, but don't forget about all the great parts that are already here. where else would you get sunday outdoor parties every week during the summertime, where else would you get so many great campout parties, where else can you have a huge massive that can incorporate jungle, hiphop house, trance and breaks, and a UG on the same night as well as a plethora of other parties and weeklies to choose from. where else could you here such a huge amount of GREAT local talent that are just as good as the headliners brought in from toher areas. see, there is a lot of great things here in the bay area. i want everyone to think of two things they love about partying here and send it to the list, then we will all see what is so great about the bay area party scene. i think we all know what needs to change, lets make the list of what doesn't need to change as well. much love, amber ps: and i think pual*e*wog made a very good point in his post that we shouldn't IGNORE the crappy parts of our scene, we do need to kick things like that in the butt, it's just not good to get so caught up in the negative that you forget the postive too. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 17:34:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10499 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 17:34:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 10419 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 17:34:23 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 17:34:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512173249.16682.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.170.33.184] by web4; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:32:49 PDT Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:32:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Joaqman Subject: bsp - dj line-up RedRoom friday 5.14.99 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk dear peoples, the RedRoom is NOT the bar in s.f. it is a very very small party spot in berkeley this friday 5.14.99. Hosted by Kung-Felt and Cybertropic Communications if you already bought a pre-sale then just call 415/339-8735 on friday for the map point location and bring a picture i.d. if you need a pre-sale clik: http://www.liberty.ispree.net info: 415.339.8735 or 510.330.1101 NOTE: the map point will be open from 9:30pm-12:30 am. You must chek in at the map point b4 12:30am whether you have a pre-sale or not or you are S.O.L., sorry overly late and you will not be admitted. we will be selling tix at the map point IF there are any left. the capacity is just under 100 people. When we breach the comfort zone at the party space we will close admission. We are being very strict to preserve a good experience for all. o.k. dj's 10-11:30pm rebecca mija, the top 11:30-1am bloom, for da houseblends crew 1-2:15am tasho, stompy 2:15-3:30am eric spire, silver pearl / Quest 3:30-4:45am john rodriguez, balance prod. 4:45-6am yours truly, joaqman, 5 families / t & j factory 6-close JD, Los Angeles w/ the sunrise jazzy drum 'n bass breakfast free organic fruit provided by Da' Wolf love provided by me and you and you and you over there and all of us @ 5 families Yippeee!!!!!! House music all nite long!!!!!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 17:45:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16673 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 17:45:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 16645 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 17:44:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gigi.excite.com) (199.172.152.110) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 17:44:58 -0000 Received: from pounce.excite.com ([199.172.152.99]) by gigi.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990512174512.RPDA14444.gigi@pounce.excite.com>; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:45:12 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: "Paul*E*Wog" , leslie.ayres@excite.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: "invite only parties"? Message-Id: <926531070.74.464@excite.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:44:30 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > Was that you dancing at Harmony Spring Time Flower Festival? Oh wait... > no you were sitting on your ass all nite. Sorry. I forgot... actually paul, as i recall, i was working the outside line for five hours, that's why i couldn't do what i had hoped, which was to introduce you to a lot of the people on the list who have wanted to meet you. but working outside, though completely exhausting (i wrote numbers on the hands of 425 people in line!), was hella fun and i got to meet lots of the diverse ravers who make our world so interesting.... and even a few special gangsta types who just didn't know what to make of the woman in the flower crown and crazy pants who made stepped in front of them and made 'em go to the back of the line after they cut in front of people who were a little hesitant to speak up about it... all-in-all it was almost as fun as dancing for hours (though i did get about an hour in to christopher lawrence before i completely collapsed) next time, though, i will try harder to get more people to meet you in person, because i think the person you are in person is very different than how you often appear to be in the cyberworld -- you are correct, in person you are sweet, quiet and gentle.... someday i'll figure it all out. love, leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 17:54:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24380 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 17:54:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 24363 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 17:54:29 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 17:54:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512174753.13930.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.86.220.227] by attach1; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:47:53 PDT Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:47:53 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: BSP for me To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi all- Ethereal should be lots of fun. I'm playing at midnight with MC Duh on the mic. The rest of the lineup is juicy as well, including Li, AndyW and Micron (almost all the viberation dj's in effect) and some SFR listmembers (thorfio and megatron). Alright, the catch is that the party is 21+ but where else can you get a good UG linuep at an all-night club? hope to see you there -Science From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 17:58:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27201 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 17:58:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 27163 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 17:58:29 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?MobQb/K/Dm4q4g5y4mwkQyrfOu6CXESG?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 17:58:29 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id KAA22683 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:58:27 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:58:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: my comments about the scene. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is phenomenal, all this talk about the Bay rave world is dying, there is no vibe, there is no this that the other. REMEMBER HOW LUCKY YOU ARE. We are not in Boise, Idaho, most of us. We do not have to mail order Thee-o tapes from Pure Acid Mixtapes, throw them in the biggest stereo we can, invite our friends and take herbal ecstasy (also mail-ordered) and call it a rave. Our record stores get everything first. Our DJ's will whip anyone else's. And if they won't, then they'll move here within a year anyways! We have the most established 21+ underground music dance scene I've ever seen, and yes that includes New York City. We have some of the most energetic young people I've ever seen, except Toronto, Chicagoish, and no shit, the Nashville/Louisville/Lexington/etc area. And of course the millitantly wacked LA kids. We have insane people doing visuals and shit, like Viberation, and MY FAVORITES WHO I WISHED GOT BOOKED MORE, the B.O.L.T./Blasthaus crew, for examples. We have a VERY ethnically and sexual-orientationally, and etcally mixed group of people out there, dancing, spinning, etcing. We have better weather! Better herb! Better everything! We have the most experimental, far-out creative, mind-blowingly original and never-ending hip-hop scene in the world. We have young kids trying too shit, some failing, some succeeding, some with their party getting busted, some evolving into new massive-throwers. We have old-school people still promoting, still mixing, still dancing. We are the champions, for real. Especially from a jungle/hip-hop point of view, as I can be expected to provide, you simply will not find a better place to be at all.. And if you disagree, SHUT DE FAK UP!!! I WILL TEK YOU TO COURT! MY DAUGHTER IS THROWING UP, MY WIFE SHE IS DYING, AND YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUR SCENE IS UNHEALTHY SIR? CAN I SEND YOU A COUPON? SHUT DE FAK UP! 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 18:05:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1381 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 18:04:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 1142 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 18:03:23 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 18:03:23 -0000 Received: from XplurTboiC@aol.com (4425) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vVQSa02444; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:02:00 -0400 (EDT) From: XplurTboiC@aol.com Message-ID: <88496c85.246b1c18@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:02:00 EDT Subject: survey To: Barbero420@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Name: Justin Screen name: XplurTboiC@aol.com Age: 19 City: San Leandro, Ca ( it's near Oakland ) Quote: E the Quicker Picker Upper From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 18:05:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1676 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 18:05:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 1246 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 18:03:46 -0000 Received: from saga7.stanford.edu (171.64.15.137) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 18:03:46 -0000 Received: (from adia@localhost) by saga7.Stanford.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA08973; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:03:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:03:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Adia Coleman To: Michael Standish cc: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: happy Hardcore In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi. I was on the internet last night looking for some good raves that will happen on may 15 saturday. I want to take a bunch of my friends raving for my birthday. I couldn't find any. Does anyone know of a rave (perferably more than two rooms with jungle, drum n bass, house, trans....from 9ish to 6am) that will be happening either in SF or oakland on saturday. I'm desparate! Thanks, Adia From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 18:09:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8333 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 18:09:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 8149 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 18:09:44 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 18:09:44 -0000 Received: from Gammbino@aol.com (8025) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id uLOOa20910; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:03:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Gammbino@aol.com Message-ID: <4fc42f2b.246b1c8c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:03:56 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: Other types of music To: etraver@ix.netcom.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/11/99 10:34:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time, etraver@ix.netcom.com writes: << -Doran Doran -DM -Metelica( older stuff) -Lauren Hill -Def Tones -Doors -Ubiquitous >> -cyprss hill -Busta Rhyms Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10086 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 18:12:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 9995 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 18:12:22 -0000 Received: from mail-oak-2.pilot.net (HELO mail02-oak.pilot.net) (198.232.147.17) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 18:12:22 -0000 Received: from unknown-101-81.adecco.com (unknown-101-81.adecco.com [206.24.101.81] (may be forged)) by mail02-oak.pilot.net with ESMTP id LAA22151 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:12:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason.LEE@adecco.com Received: from boxster.hq.adia (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unknown-101-81.adecco.com with SMTP id LAA06160 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by boxster.hq.adia(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 8825676F.006401C1 ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:12:20 -0700 X-Lotus-FromDomain: US_ADECCO To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <8825676F.0063EB36.00@boxster.hq.adia> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:11:51 -0700 Subject: Re: my comments about the scene. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm not going to rebuttle this but, being from the Orlando Area, and practically witnessing how it stemmed from house parties to major one offs, I can honestly say that San Francisco is no where close to what Florida had accomplished, nor can I ever see the Bay Area comming close. Although the scene is exceptional here, and probably the most lively than any of the other states is a different point all together. But the only thing that can keep a vibe is you, and you have to be responsible, if your not it will begin to have restrictions and it will begin to crumble.... will it happen here ... I don't know, depends on all of us. The Laws that were passed to curb the scene in Florida may have made a detrimental impact on the scene, but for what it's worth my best memories and best times stem from there, and no one or no law can take that away from me. Jason Max McCauley on 05/12/99 10:58:27 AM To: sfraves@hyperreal.org cc: (bcc: Jason LEE/HQ/US/ADECCO) Subject: my comments about the scene. This is phenomenal, all this talk about the Bay rave world is dying, there is no vibe, there is no this that the other. REMEMBER HOW LUCKY YOU ARE. We are not in Boise, Idaho, most of us. We do not have to mail order Thee-o tapes from Pure Acid Mixtapes, throw them in the biggest stereo we can, invite our friends and take herbal ecstasy (also mail-ordered) and call it a rave. Our record stores get everything first. Our DJ's will whip anyone else's. And if they won't, then they'll move here within a year anyways! We have the most established 21+ underground music dance scene I've ever seen, and yes that includes New York City. We have some of the most energetic young people I've ever seen, except Toronto, Chicagoish, and no shit, the Nashville/Louisville/Lexington/etc area. And of course the millitantly wacked LA kids. We have insane people doing visuals and shit, like Viberation, and MY FAVORITES WHO I WISHED GOT BOOKED MORE, the B.O.L.T./Blasthaus crew, for examples. We have a VERY ethnically and sexual-orientationally, and etcally mixed group of people out there, dancing, spinning, etcing. We have better weather! Better herb! Better everything! We have the most experimental, far-out creative, mind-blowingly original and never-ending hip-hop scene in the world. We have young kids trying too shit, some failing, some succeeding, some with their party getting busted, some evolving into new massive-throwers. We have old-school people still promoting, still mixing, still dancing. We are the champions, for real. Especially from a jungle/hip-hop point of view, as I can be expected to provide, you simply will not find a better place to be at all.. And if you disagree, SHUT DE FAK UP!!! I WILL TEK YOU TO COURT! MY DAUGHTER IS THROWING UP, MY WIFE SHE IS DYING, AND YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUR SCENE IS UNHEALTHY SIR? CAN I SEND YOU A COUPON? SHUT DE FAK UP! 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 18:12:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10602 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 18:12:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 10502 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 18:12:49 -0000 Received: from dilbert.ucdavis.edu (root@169.237.105.33) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 18:12:49 -0000 Received: from localhost (ez060343@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dilbert.ucdavis.edu (8.9.3/UCD3.13.10) with ESMTP id LAA22920; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:03:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:03:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Kenneth Zanotto X-Sender: ez060343@dilbert.ucdavis.edu To: Elizabeth Traver cc: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Other types of music In-Reply-To: <37392226.A07@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Let's see here.... Zeppelin Jimi Metallica(pre-Sandman days) Guns and Roses Nas Gang Starr Tribe Rakim Stevie Ray Vaughn Sabbath Alice in Chains Michael Jackson too many more to list Ken From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 18:29:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23869 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 18:29:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 23860 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 18:29:27 -0000 Received: from mail.cwo.com (209.210.78.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 18:29:27 -0000 Received: from workstation4.cwo.com (office.cwo.com [209.210.78.29]) by mail.cwo.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA20878 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:29:28 -0700 Message-ID: <001401be9ca5$90618680$0b01a8c0@cwo.com> From: "Permanent Press" To: "Sac Raves" Subject: First Light one year anniversary Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:30:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01BE9C6A.E3C8B2C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BE9C6A.E3C8B2C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just curious if anyone was going to be attending the first light one = year aniv? anybody going on have a word on this event? permpress Event listing: First Light one year anniversary - DJ's in Room 1:, Mars Vs.Mystre, = Happy Kid Ian Vs. Happy kid Marty, Greg Sandler Vs. AndyW, Macadio, = Andrei Morant (Template Records UK), Room 2:, Hak Vs. Siphon, Rinse Vs. = Flux, Protolab (Live PA), Micron. Sound By Xtreme Audio, Lasers By UV99. = This is a permitted Event. Presales Go on sale 4/20/99 at: F-8, Solid = Grooves, Harmonics and In the mix. 10pm-6am, . 415.646.0763=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BE9C6A.E3C8B2C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
just curious if anyone was going to be = attending=20 the first light one year aniv?
 
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Event listing:
First Light one year = anniversary - DJ's in Room 1:, Mars Vs.Mystre, Happy Kid Ian = Vs.=20 Happy kid Marty, Greg Sandler Vs. AndyW, Macadio, Andrei Morant = (Template=20 Records UK), Room 2:, Hak Vs. Siphon, Rinse Vs. Flux, Protolab (Live = PA),=20 Micron. Sound By Xtreme Audio, Lasers By UV99. This is a permitted = Event.=20 Presales Go on sale 4/20/99 at: F-8, Solid Grooves, Harmonics and In the = mix.=20 10pm-6am, . 415.646.0763
------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BE9C6A.E3C8B2C0-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 18:33:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25894 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 18:33:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 25884 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 18:33:07 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 18:33:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512183132.26870.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.241] by web4; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:31:32 PDT Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:31:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: Re: First Light one year anniversary To: Permanent Press , Sac Raves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'll be there, Macadio's been around a while now and I'm coming out to support the scene, and Macadio's attempt to make a difference in the scene. I hope to see lots of you there! I think this party will rock! Good luck! =)jer === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 18:39:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29005 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 18:39:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 28988 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 18:39:36 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 18:39:36 -0000 Received: from Macias20@aol.com (48) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id cLOHa24272; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:38:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Macias20@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:38:15 EDT Subject: Re: First Light one year anniversary To: specialagentb@cwo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk IM GOING!!!!! I can't wait... see u there. By the way, is it gonna be at 2nd and crack? and does anyone know the time slots of the dj's? love valerie AKA sparkles From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 18:46:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1740 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 18:46:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 1730 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 18:46:45 -0000 Received: from pop3.netzero.net (HELO l3mail4) (209.0.233.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 18:46:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 27892 invoked by uid 0); 12 May 1999 18:46:43 -0000 Received: from 48-ppp-a.tnt06.agis.net (HELO katskratcher) (205.199.32.48) by pop3.netzero.net with SMTP; 12 May 1999 18:46:43 -0000 Message-ID: <00a101be9ca6$e2ec6540$3020c7cd@katskratcher> From: ",,^. .^,," To: "Paul*E*Wog" Cc: Subject: Re: about Paul*E*Wog's comments on the scene Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:40:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk sorry to be late to jump on this thread, things have been busy in my life lately... but i did want to comment on all this.. as far as Paul goes, i've been on the list almost a year now, and i've always taken the time to read his posts.. he's intelligent, he always backs up his statements with facts when it comes to herbs or chemicals, he inspires people to react.. i might not always agree with his opinions on things, but i always take the time to consider his point of view on them. i'm not sure what all others have posted on this thread as i'm just catching up now, so forgive if i'm reiterating old subjects.. after reading the post below at first i got a bit angry, but not because i didn't like what he was saying.. in fact i agree wholeheartedly in what he said.. its all true.. and yes, of course, the whole thing is subjective, but from my perspective, the scene is dead.. maybe not completely, but people have become more and more complacent. everyone bitches that they have to pay more and more for parties these days, but does anyone ever do anything about it? no, they don't. do they ever -really- boycott a specific promoter or party after having numerous negative results come from that group? no, they don't. the music does suck these days.. its all repetitive. i worked a juice booth here in LA at a Melodic last saturday nite, it was all Mark Farina all nite long.. it was actually the first time in the last three years i've heard any music that really made me wanna get out there and dance.. i've been leaving the parties i have had a chance to get to at about 1 am because i just can't get into the music. and the vibe,... geez thats a whole other story.. i've become more and more detached at every party i go to due to all the negatives i see... so you might all get pissed at Paul for what he says, but i hope he sparks something in all of you to make you do something about the things in our scene that have made it what it is today. SF, in my eyes has always had a great scene, better than LA in a lot of ways, and i really don't wanna see the same things happen up there as they have here.. ,,^. .^,, "The scene is not what I make of it. it is what WE make of it. And we are not making anything of it." --------------------------------------------------- Paul*E*Wog wrote:- |I am just stirring up shit and hoping that people will stop ignoring the |negative in this scene. If everyone keeps looking past all the negative |bullshit then it will never be dealt with. Stop ignoring all the crap |that goes on in this scene. PLUR is not going to solve the problems. | |Some people need a good kick in the ass to wake up. This scene is dead. |Sorry if you think its alive... The scene I know is dead. What you see |now is the remains of a once thriving scene. Imagine the positive points |of this community X 10. That is what i know. That is now what i see. I |am sure before me... the scene was even better. Still, what i know of |the scene is better than what we have now. | |Wake up... don't lie to yourself. The scene is dead. The music has died. |It's the same repetitive bullshit over and over. As long as promoters |keep booking the same DJs over and over again we will never bring back |the life to this party. | |Where is the spirituality. Where are the kids on soap boxes telling the |people how it is? Where is the knowledge? This scene has gotten stupid. |The tripping mentality is gone. Welcome to the fucked up on drugs |mentality... | |Realize and stop looking past the negativity. Change it now so there |will be something to dance to later... | |=Paul*E*Wog | |P.S. The scene is not what I make of it. it is what WE make of it. And |we are not making anything of it. | NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 18:50:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3938 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 18:50:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 3915 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 18:50:45 -0000 Received: from ns2.divi.com (HELO kms.divi.com) (199.97.190.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 18:50:45 -0000 Received: from rmarm.divi.com by kms.divi.com (8.8.8/DiviCom-KMS) id LAA14834; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:49:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990512185007.00b5245c@kms> X-Sender: isaacl@kms X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:50:07 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Isaac Labugen Subject: Re: First Light one year anniversary Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yes, I totally agree with Jeremy- this party is going to be rockin. The first light family are some really cool people's and should definitely get our support. The party has a really solid line up and should produce some really good tunes to dance too. I will bring plenty of free fruit for everybody to enjoy, just stop by the children of the sun booth to get some. I'll be there, Macadio's been around a while now and >I'm coming out to support the scene, and Macadio's >attempt to make a difference in the scene. I hope to >see lots of you there! I think this party will rock! >Good luck! > >=)jer > > > >=== >Jeremy B. Bispo >Member Support Specialist >Cybergold, Inc. >2921 Adeline >Berkeley CA 94703 >510.845.5000 ext. 126 > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 18:55:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8385 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 18:55:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 8200 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 18:55:07 -0000 Received: from web805.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 18:55:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512185949.11583.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.99] by web805.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:59:49 PDT Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:59:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Quote relating to our scene To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk While reading one of his books, I ran across this quote from an awesome environmentalist, it is about the environment, and our own abuse of our land/world. I believe it can be true for some with regards to our scene... " We abuse land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see the land as a community to which we belong, we may treat it with love and respect" =Aldo Leopold (1887-1948) Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 18:56:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9397 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 18:56:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 9383 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 18:56:30 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 18:56:30 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512184955.25073.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [129.210.91.168] by attach1; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:49:55 PDT Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:49:55 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: Re: my comments about the scene. To: Max McCauley , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ---Max McCauley wrote: > > > This is phenomenal, all this talk about the Bay rave world is dying, > there is no vibe, there is no this that the other. > > REMEMBER HOW LUCKY YOU ARE. Ok, two-pronged response: 1) BOH! I agree. BUT: 2) No progess is ever made without dissatisfaction. Apreciate what we have, yes, but don't think that we can't make it better. -Science From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 19:03:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14707 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 19:03:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 14684 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 19:03:30 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?byrmIs8Je1thVw95LI4qFtshMXFhR3SD?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 19:03:30 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id MAA04693; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:03:26 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:03:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: SCiEnCe cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: my comments about the scene. In-Reply-To: <19990512184955.25073.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 12 May 1999, SCiEnCe wrote: > > 1) BOH! I agree. my response: BOH BOH BOH! > BUT: > 2) No progess is ever made without dissatisfaction. Apreciate what we > have, yes, but don't think that we can't make it better. I think the nice part about the jungle scene and for that matter all of them is that while many of us are NOT dissatisfied, and actually have to CHOOSE BETWEEN things to go to on a certain night, which is unheard of in almost every other region of the US, we are COMPETETIVE! Crews respect crews, and response to sucessful weeklies/parties/etc by trying to out-do them, for the glory and honor of throwing the fattest parties. Because there is so much talent and so much motivation in the Bay, and because we don't suffer from the malicious party-sabotaging, voice-mail hacking horror story competition that many other places are forced to reckon with, you find that things only get better! For since there is demand from the dancefloors for the bigger (and smaller) more varied (and more specific and uni-genreish) for the 21+ and for the all-ages, what we see is that the SUPPLY ONLY GETS FATTER! 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 19:07:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16638 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 19:07:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 16629 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 19:07:17 -0000 Received: from ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com (HELO mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com) (imail@24.0.0.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 19:07:17 -0000 Received: from C42488-A.pinol1.sfba.home.com ([24.1.2.242]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990512190716.COTB12625.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@C42488-A.pinol1.sfba.home.com>; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:07:16 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Geoff Herbst" To: "Jess ica" , Subject: Another Quote relating to our scene to chew on.... comments? opinions? Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:06:50 -0700 Message-ID: <002f01be9caa$97511780$b4570118@C42488-A.pinol1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-reply-to: <19990512185949.11583.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk a few weeks ago I was reading an article by Jurgen Laarmann (head of Frontpage / Sense) and thought it was really where I felt at least my convictions lay.... (snip) "A remarkable and deciding factor of this medium is the inehxaustable energy which this music provides-not just on the dancefloor. At its best, this energy leads to boundless optimism, which puts the recipient in a position to make the best of every situation. Technologically speaking, this means: analysing your situation, isolating the problem, defining your goal and activiating all technological or other means in order to reach your goal-always however in harmony with the values of the movement. Techno [talking about rave music, not techno specifically here] has turned into the soundtrack of our lives. Today Techno's greatest enemies are those who believe Techno to be firmly rooted in recreational culture ("with a groove under your ass you can forget your daily cage") Its true that even today some people believe that "a handful of computer beats" are just "bread for the people" and attempt to use the music to temporarily forget their depressing situation in a restriuctive society, they ought, however, to get it clear for themselves, that these "imbecile techno-tunes" are an instrument of repression used by the entertainment industry. Real techno was developed as a revolutionary medium of liberation and freedom to counteract this repression.... The question ought to be: how do we bridge the gap from techno music and ideaology on the one had to techno religion and cultural technique on the other hand? Who says the good feeling, the spirit and all the other factor mentione above are limited to the dancefloor and cant be applied to "real life" 24 hours a day? (snip) chew chew Peace through Trance gEoff ;) -----Original Message----- From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org] On Behalf Of Jess ica Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 12:00 PM To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Quote relating to our scene While reading one of his books, I ran across this quote from an awesome environmentalist, it is about the environment, and our own abuse of our land/world. I believe it can be true for some with regards to our scene... " We abuse land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see the land as a community to which we belong, we may treat it with love and respect" =Aldo Leopold (1887-1948) Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 19:18:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27551 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 19:18:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 27522 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 19:18:42 -0000 Received: from ww182.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.82) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 19:18:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 8669 invoked by uid 60001); 12 May 1999 19:18:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512191837.8668.qmail@ww182.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.82 by ww182 via web-mailer(M3.0.0.118) on Wed May 12 19:18:36 GMT 1999 Date: 12 May 99 12:18:36 PDT From: Stuart Sung To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [Parties in Hong Kong???] X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.118) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ravi, Be prepared for a very humid, hot & a summer with a few typhoons. The way how Paul described his experience, I guess he went to where majority of the locals H.K.nese go...in any case, back to your question, I was there last X'mas, and was looking for some of my old hangouts (I grew up there) needless to say, they were all gone. However, there's this= one place called "Joe..." or "...Joe" I cannot, for the life of me, remember the name of the place. This place, I guess you can say, is wher= e ABC's & foreigner's (not just tourists) go on the weekends. If you go the the Central district (HK side), where Queen's Road (not Queensways, two different places) meets with Des Voux Road (sp?), there's= a pub called Mad Dog on Des Voux R'd (a new place for me), talk to the bartender, preferably the English one (there's 2 1/2 bartenders working t= here, the 1/2 was in training when I was last there) He should be able to name = the place I'm talking about or even perhaps recommend some new some places to= check out. Hope this is some use to you & have a blast out there. = Stu "Ravi Gadhia" wrote: > Hi All, = > = > I'm an old-time SFRaver ('93). I'm living in Hong Kong > this summer. Does anyone have any contacts or leads > on the Hong Kong party scene??? > = > Any and all info appreciated. Thanks in advance, > = > Ravi Gadhia > rg@aureal.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D And your crybaby whiny-assed opinion would be...? Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 19:18:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27583 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 19:18:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 27542 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 19:18:48 -0000 Received: from f79.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.185) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 19:18:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 69735 invoked by uid 0); 12 May 1999 19:18:21 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512191821.69734.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:18:21 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: Macias20@aol.com, specialagentb@cwo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: First Light one year anniversary Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:18:21 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk First Light answers to your questions: Yes the party will be at 2@jax I know a lot of you may not like the location but that is all that is available right now. We are doing our best to make sure that people are comfortable with Fans,floor covering etc.. We have been busting our ass all week with Props,Banners etc.. The Lineup is as follows: ROOM 1: ANDYW&GREG SANDLER, MARS&MYSTRE, ANDREI MORANT (A.K.A JACK MACREL TEMPLATE RECORDS UK) HAPPY KID IAN&MARTY, MACADIO ROOM 2: HAK&SIPHON, RINSE&FLUX, PROTOLAB (LIVE PA), MICRON The DJ's are also playing in that exact order. If you need exact times please email me privately and I will gladly give you the info. We will also have dj's names being displayed as they spin so you know who is who. Thanks, Macadio >From: Macias20@aol.com >To: specialagentb@cwo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: First Light one year anniversary >Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:38:15 EDT > >IM GOING!!!!! I can't wait... see u there. By the way, is it gonna be at >2nd >and crack? and does anyone know the time slots of the dj's? love valerie >AKA >sparkles From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 19:29:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5702 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 19:29:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 5662 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 19:29:51 -0000 Received: from x15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 19:29:51 -0000 Received: (from elias_smith@juno.com) by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EAFMX3KF; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:29:33 EDT To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:46:11 -0700 Subject: (NRR) One week and counting Message-ID: <19990422.224650.-789271.0.Elias_Smith@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: the town drunk Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I woke up this morning to a harsh reality check. One week left!!!! or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 19:36:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9045 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 19:36:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 9037 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 19:36:14 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 19:36:14 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA03025; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:36:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990512124041.007eb330@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:40:41 -0700 To: william godoy From: Carly Bourne Subject: Re: Wildchild Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Danny the wildchild will be at Bliss in Sac June 4th... yay! This was probably already said... but I haven't checked my mail in a week and I'm too tireed to read all 400 messages right now. Love, Carly At 02:41 PM 5/11/99 -0800, you wrote: >The "Renegade Master" song is also available on Plastic Compilation Vol. 2 >which >has the has the Fat Boy Slim Old Skool Mix. The album is SICK as hell. I >also have access to the Ultra Records single, which has 8 different mixes. >If anyone is interested in this single ie...DJs,promoters,the curious, let >me know. > >peace >William (aka Lazarus) > > > > *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 19:41:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12557 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 19:41:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 12445 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 19:41:51 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 19:41:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512192453.27033.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [129.210.88.186] by web1; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:24:53 PDT Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:24:53 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: Re: my comments about the scene. To: Max McCauley Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ---Max McCauley wrote: Well lookee here, ma. Max has done gone and got himself a degree is Jungle economics! haha right on... -Science > > I think the nice part about the jungle scene and for that matter all of > them is that while many of us are NOT dissatisfied, and actually have to > CHOOSE BETWEEN things to go to on a certain night, which is unheard of in > almost every other region of the US, we are COMPETETIVE! > > Crews respect crews, and response to sucessful weeklies/parties/etc by > trying to out-do them, for the glory and honor of throwing the fattest > parties. Because there is so much talent and so much motivation in the > Bay, and because we don't suffer from the malicious party-sabotaging, > voice-mail hacking horror story competition that many other places are > forced to reckon with, you find that things only get better! > > For since there is demand from the dancefloors for the bigger (and > smaller) more varied (and more specific and uni-genreish) for the 21+ and > for the all-ages, what we see is that the SUPPLY ONLY GETS FATTER! > > 10-4, > duh, > max > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 19:56:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22257 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 19:56:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 22244 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 19:55:59 -0000 Received: from fletch.fix.net (telkionish@206.190.71.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 19:55:59 -0000 Received: from localhost (telkionish@localhost) by fletch.fix.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA10520; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:56:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Adair To: sfraves@hyperreal.org cc: brendan@peacedividend.com Subject: RE: NRR: Macs vs PCs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You demonstarted your ability to take a sentence or two out of a whole paragraph and make comments on them completely out of context in an attempt to discredit my statements.. You did a pretty good job of it too.. Have you ever though about becoming a lawyer or a politician?? But like I said, I am not gonna argue... that is unless you can teach me something I dont already know.. In that case we can take this off the list, but I really dont think it is worth my time if you are going to continue presenting fallacious arguments, and personally attacking me... Flame wars are for people with huge ego's that refuse to back down.. I admit a few of my statements appear a little sketchy because i didnt take the time to fully explain them, but 95% of the people on sfraves wouldnt have understood what I was talking about, so I didnt see the point.. anyway... GregerE From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 19:56:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22935 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 19:56:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 22823 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 19:56:18 -0000 Received: from bogart.umail.ucsb.edu (sms@128.111.125.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 19:56:18 -0000 Received: from bergman.umail.ucsb.edu (ugentd00@bergman.umail.ucsb.edu [128.111.125.61]) by bogart.umail.ucsb.edu (8.8.8/SMS 2.0.3 umail) with SMTP id MAA25271 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:56:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:56:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Demian B Gentry To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: LA Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know of a list like this in LA? I love sfraves but I want some local venues. One Love --Demian a.k.a. Nino Slim From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 19:57:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24004 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 19:57:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 23969 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 19:57:25 -0000 Received: from mail.healthoutcomes.com (HELO marketing.healthoutcomes.com) (209.24.3.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 19:57:25 -0000 Received: from nngo ([209.24.3.172]) by marketing.healthoutcomes.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-58286U100L2S100V35) with SMTP id AAA309 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:06:11 -0700 Message-ID: <01b401be9cb1$8e3c1800$ac0318d1@ssimarkfmt> From: nngo@velos.com (Nick Ngo) To: Subject: Asians in the RAVE scene Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:56:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01B1_01BE9C76.E19A1C80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01B1_01BE9C76.E19A1C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone, I just want to get everyone's opinion on the 'Asian Invasion' in the = rave scene within the past 6 months to a year. Do you like it? Do you = want it to change? Do you care? You can email me privately if you want. = BTW, I am asian but have an openmind about everything. So if you wanna = gripe, flame, or say racists things...I'll listen to you with my = blindfolds on. Thanks, Nick ------=_NextPart_000_01B1_01BE9C76.E19A1C80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I just want to get everyone's = opinion on the=20 'Asian Invasion' in the rave scene within the past 6 months to a = year.  Do=20 you like it?  Do you want it to change?  Do you care? You = can=20 email me privately if you want.  BTW, I am asian but have an = openmind about=20 everything.  So if you wanna gripe, flame, or say racists = things...I'll=20 listen to you with my blindfolds on.
 
Thanks,
 
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------=_NextPart_000_01B1_01BE9C76.E19A1C80-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 20:01:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27995 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 20:01:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 27982 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 20:01:52 -0000 Received: from fletch.fix.net (telkionish@206.190.71.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 20:01:52 -0000 Received: from localhost (telkionish@localhost) by fletch.fix.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA12117 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:02:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:02:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Adair To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re:happy Hardcore Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It makes me feel good! What better reason is there?? GregerE I was just wondering what everyone's fascination with Happy Hardcore is! It is impossible to dance to, it sounds like techno on crack. It makes me feel sick! Who ever started this probably did on accident by spinning his record too fast. If any one could give me one good reason why they like this music I would much appreciate it! Thanx. Have a bitchin' day. Tera From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 20:05:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29613 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 20:05:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 29555 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 20:05:18 -0000 Received: from mail-out1.apple.com (17.254.0.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 20:05:18 -0000 Received: from mailgate2.apple.com ([17.129.100.225]) by mail-out1.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22858 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:05:16 -0700 Received: from scv4.apple.com (scv4.apple.com) by mailgate2.apple.com (mailgate2.apple.com- SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:05:09 -0700 Received: from [17.203.44.198] (harness2.mae.apple.com [17.203.44.198]) by scv4.apple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA57908; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:03:29 -0700 Message-Id: <199905122003.NAA57908@scv4.apple.com> Subject: Re: LA Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:05:10 -0700 x-sender: oakl_bbong@pop.oakland.crosswinds.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Bbong To: "Demian B Gentry" , "SFRaves" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 5/12/99 12:56 PM Demian B Gentry ugentd00@umail.ucsb.edu > > Does anyone know of a list like this in LA? I love sfraves but I >want some local venues. > > One Love > >--Demian a.k.a. Nino Slim > > I think LA Raves got blasted, due to people flaming each other :) http://hyperreal.org/raves/sd/home.html From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 20:05:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29816 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 20:05:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 29712 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 20:05:36 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd91.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.155) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 20:05:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 78252 invoked by uid 0); 12 May 1999 20:05:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512200509.78251.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.251.189.214 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:05:08 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.251.189.214] From: "ve anne" To: nngo@velos.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Asians in the RAVE scene Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:05:08 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey lemme stereotype (cause i can :P) most asian peeps LOVE trance and they LOVE E. trust me, my cousin and her friends went to f8 and now they're addicted. and because the big ol asian community usually stick together they tell all their friends and now everyones gettin into it. good for trance djs and drug dealers, more etards yay! :) From: nngo@velos.com (Nick Ngo) To: Subject: Asians in the RAVE scene Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:56:41 -0700 Hello everyone, I just want to get everyone's opinion on the 'Asian Invasion' in the rave scene within the past 6 months to a year. Do you like it? Do you want it to change? Do you care? You can email me privately if you want. BTW, I am asian but have an openmind about everything. So if you wanna gripe, flame, or say racists things...I'll listen to you with my blindfolds on. Thanks, Nick From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 20:07:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2354 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 20:07:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 2273 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 20:07:12 -0000 Received: from f135.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 20:07:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 45219 invoked by uid 0); 12 May 1999 20:06:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512200644.45218.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.112.27.60 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:06:44 PDT X-Originating-IP: [216.112.27.60] From: "dj boywonder" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR: R.I.P. Shel Silverstein (1932-1999) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:06:44 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey all thought this was important...we've lost one of my favorite authours and poets of all time...this man had a great impact on many peoples lives...i can remember reading his books when i was younger... http://194.178.234.54/Silverstein/SHELDONE.htm aaron From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 20:32:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21720 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 20:32:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 21698 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 20:32:29 -0000 Received: from web504.yahoomail.com (128.11.68.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 20:32:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512203527.13162.rocketmail@web504.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.119.128.253] by web504.yahoomail.com; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:35:27 PDT Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:35:27 -0700 (PDT) From: What is a dic-so bunny Subject: Re: Asians in the RAVE scene To: Nick Ngo , "Hib Ta Da Hibbidy Hop" "and da Boccoli" Biff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Whoa...where did this come from??? I think anyone who enjoys raves, BELONGS at raves. It's not about who's race or ethnicity dominates the scene... ...it's all about attitude, and if you're a positive person you belong at RAVES!!!!! When I go to a rave I see a bunch of happy, energetic people...and the colors i see are the colors of happiness and beads, reds, blues, yellows, and greens!!! sherri :) === Fievel and Dinky Little SUCK DONKEY Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 20:36:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24662 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 20:36:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 24637 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 20:36:39 -0000 Received: from linex1.linex.com (HELO relay.linex.net) (199.4.98.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 20:36:39 -0000 Received: from linex4.linex.com (linex4.linex.com [199.4.98.14]) by relay.linex.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA23072; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linex.linex.com by linex4.linex.com (NX5.67c/NX3.0S) id AA26867; Wed, 12 May 99 13:36:32 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:36:30 -0700 (PDT) From: aminita To: Joyce Lam Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: any raves for college aged or early-twenties???? In-Reply-To: <3738CDE0.144C57B5@us.oracle.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Absolutely my dear! you should keep an eye out for the uniting souls parties. Some of them include Sound Textures which is at 330 rich and 21+ also Sunshine Daydream which is a daytime into night time party...also 21+. I would consider these "raves" for the 21 and older. you can also look at the upcoming parties on the website www.unitingsouls.com just remmber it's still under construction. But all the important info is there. you would have an absolute blast at the upcoming soundtextures on may 22nd. this one is a special tribute to drumNbass but usually it's house with a little chicago flavor. Check it out! hope to see ya there. shira On Tue, 11 May 1999, Joyce Lam wrote: > Being 23, I found the rave scene last last sat in Oakland near the > Coliseum a little young for me (definite high school age group) > > It would be great if someone could recommend raves or a rave-line or > good clubs that caters more to the college-aged or early twenties age > group > > > thanks! > newtoarea > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 20:37:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25066 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 20:37:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 24942 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 20:36:53 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 20:36:53 -0000 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.9.3/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA21395; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:36:50 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-Sender: andy@atari Reply-To: AndyW To: Nick Ngo cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Asians in the RAVE scene In-Reply-To: <01b401be9cb1$8e3c1800$ac0318d1@ssimarkfmt> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 12 May 1999, Nick Ngo wrote: -&e->Hello everyone, -&e-> -&e->I just want to get everyone's opinion on the 'Asian Invasion' in the -&e->rave scene within the past 6 months to a year. Do you like it? Do I honestly haven't noticed anything like that... but I tend to be pretty ignorant of race unless it's really in my face, like a party where there's just nobody who isn't white or something screwy like that. -&e->you want it to change? Do you care? You can email me privately if -&e->you want. BTW, I am asian but have an openmind about everything. So -&e->if you wanna gripe, flame, or say racists things...I'll listen to you -&e->with my blindfolds on. In all honesty, it's a non-issue unless I see garbage like that Asians4Evah post that came through here a while back (telling people to step the fuck back, threats of violence/takedown and massive disrespect in general). If someone is a kind person who is in it for the right reasons (liking the music, lifestyle, people, insomniac, etc) and can keep their shit together, welcome. If someone is a violent little shnitzel that gets their sense of self respect by dissing others, using group threats and violence, or feel somehow superior to anybody based on their ethnic background... they suck in my humble opinion. Color or ethnic background doesn't matter here. Attitude, outlook, and a willingness to accept the ways of others and live in a way that is respectful to the community at large is. Peace, AndyW From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 20:37:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26017 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 20:37:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 25849 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 20:37:20 -0000 Received: from f46.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.57) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 20:37:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 61177 invoked by uid 0); 12 May 1999 20:36:53 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512203653.61176.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.227.43.13 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:36:53 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.227.43.13] From: "Fruit Cup" To: poeie@hotmail.com, nngo@velos.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Asians in the RAVE scene Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:36:53 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >most asian peeps LOVE trance and they LOVE E. yeah they (we) do! just check out 1015 folsom any friday night..."chinatown" = the far side of the stage in the main room. by the end of the night the stage is just a heap of wacked out asians laying all over each other...most of the ones i've met seem just off the boat, too. i'm a bad example of one, tho'. if i had to be a particular fruit, it'd have to be a banana...white on the inside... -fruit From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 20:41:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29728 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 20:41:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 29720 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 20:41:41 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 20:41:41 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (14419) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iVYFa26069; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:13:39 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <42ad9c49.246b3af3@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:13:39 EDT Subject: Re: Asians in the RAVE scene To: nngo@velos.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What does race, gender, or anything else have to do with raves? How are asians any different from Irish people in the rave scene? Im just wondering why you would feel there is a reason to feel differently about asians especailly since you say you are asian. Im just kinda unclear exactly what it is your asking. When I look around at parties I dont see "asians", I dont see " Irish", I dont see race, I see vibe. The day we start to accept the value of what individuals or other cultures have to offer is the day when we can start to accept we are all the same. Peace, M Ok, go back to what you were doing. Just me and my big mouth again. Groove On From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 20:42:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 565 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 20:42:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 542 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 20:41:59 -0000 Received: from linex1.linex.com (HELO relay.linex.net) (199.4.98.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 20:41:59 -0000 Received: from linex4.linex.com (linex4.linex.com [199.4.98.14]) by relay.linex.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA23215; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linex.linex.com by linex4.linex.com (NX5.67c/NX3.0S) id AA26970; Wed, 12 May 99 13:41:56 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:41:54 -0700 (PDT) From: aminita To: WizardCCCA@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: any raves for college aged or early-twenties???? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk you should checkout a sunshine daydream party. Never felt a better vibe. WIthout all the homies! One of the most incredible parties i have ever and i mean EVER been too. Exceeds any other rave i have been to 10 fold. No kidding. I don't just mean cause of age. I am jsut saying that you don't loose that incredible vibe when the kiddies go away. Cause the kiddies grow up to be bigger kiddies........same stuff just different year. shira On Tue, 11 May 1999 WizardCCCA@aol.com wrote: > ITs funny that you say that.... when I started raving, I went with a bunch of > my friends from college.... And when I got there, there were a LOT of kids > there that were younger than me. But for some reason I never looked at it as > a huge difference in age. Out here in Colorado I would have to say that some > of my really good party friends ended up being the ones that were 15 and 16 > years old. I am 20 and sometimes I do look at them and think "Gee they're > young" but most of the time I don't look at it that way because ravers come > in all shapes and sizes, ages and colors.... But IMHO, raves with youngins > are better than clubs with older folks! I think you will find that the vibe > is so different when the young peeps disappear. Not quite as fun and not as > much lovin. :-) > > Just my $0.02 > Liz > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 20:44:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2607 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 20:44:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 2593 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 20:44:18 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 20:44:18 -0000 Received: from BreAthNYoO@aol.com (7823) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iWAUa04195; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:28:48 -0400 (EDT) From: BreAthNYoO@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:28:47 EDT Subject: Re: Asians in the RAVE scene To: nngo@velos.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 99-05-12 15:58:08 EDT, nngo@velos.com writes: << Hello everyone, I just want to get everyone's opinion on the 'Asian Invasion' in the rave scene within the past 6 months to a year. Do you like it? Do you want it to change? Do you care? You can email me privately if you want. BTW, I am asian but have an openmind about everything. So if you wanna gripe, flame, or say racists things...I'll listen to you with my blindfolds on. Thanks, Nick >> LOL.. very riske to say anything on this topic w/o comming across racist or predju... all i REALLY have to say.. i dont care for the way ( as it apears ) that they come to do thier drugs in a safe enviroment.. and then post up at the bottom of the speakers for madd hours. unbudgeable. i have to step on heads. :=/ ok i am shhhhh now. Love and ligHt eSs From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 20:46:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4346 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 20:46:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 4274 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 20:46:20 -0000 Received: from linex1.linex.com (HELO relay.linex.net) (199.4.98.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 20:46:19 -0000 Received: from linex4.linex.com (linex4.linex.com [199.4.98.14]) by relay.linex.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA23385; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linex.linex.com by linex4.linex.com (NX5.67c/NX3.0S) id AA26993; Wed, 12 May 99 13:46:16 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:46:14 -0700 (PDT) From: aminita To: Speedex33@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: The X - Files on ACID???? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah! It was the bomb. Pretty good effects i might say. Seems like druggies/ex-druggies must of been involved in that production for sure. aminita On Tue, 11 May 1999 Speedex33@aol.com wrote: > Woah! Okay! Did anyone here see the LSD mushroom episode of the X-Files on > Sunday? Man what a trip!!! At the very begining when the lady in the > shower saw the wall start to melt yellow, i was like "Woah, she looks like > she's on an acid trip!" but dayam i didn' know i would be so right!:) That > episode was hella tight and i loved how they made almost the whole episode a > halucination. Then, when Mulder looks around and sees the room melting, i > couldn't believe what i was seeing! I havn't watched it in a while, but i > was not disapointed at all! > > Laterz, > > Scott > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 20:47:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5254 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 20:47:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 5235 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 20:47:08 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?HyT1cnYX4w55S13E2YeVK8O19U5llWnV?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 20:47:08 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id NAA22621 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:47:07 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:47:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: "homies" in the rave scene. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I swear to God: One day, I am either going to throw a house party somewhere and invite all my extra-homie-ish friends AND a bunch of yall, or I am going to drag a bunch of yall to some "homie" party or I am going to invite a battalion of my "homie" friends to a small, intimate, positive party. Why? Because although there are idiot drugged out, piled up ravers that are acting like idiots, and because there are thuggish gas face pushy shovy "homie" idiots....the people I hang out with, are pretty much ALL GOOD. And we all appreciate the same things....people around us who make us feel good, music that speaks to our asses and feetsies, and a bit of mind-expansion. (excluding the idiots on every side) WE ALL IN THE SAME GANG. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 20:53:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10729 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 20:53:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 10721 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 20:53:46 -0000 Received: from ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com (HELO mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com) (imail@24.0.0.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 20:53:46 -0000 Received: from C42488-A.pinol1.sfba.home.com ([24.1.2.242]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990512205055.RFL14484.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@C42488-A.pinol1.sfba.home.com>; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:50:55 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Geoff Herbst" To: "Demian B Gentry" , "SFRaves" Subject: RE: LA Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:50:28 -0700 Message-ID: <003301be9cb9$1180f760$b4570118@C42488-A.pinol1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-reply-to: <199905122003.NAA57908@scv4.apple.com> Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk socal raves is alive (and sort of well) http://socal-raves.org/ calendar digest and std subscription is going theres been a few splinter branches out there too poop being one of them enjoy gEoff ;) -----Original Message----- From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org] On Behalf Of Bbong Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 1:05 PM To: Demian B Gentry; SFRaves Subject: Re: LA 5/12/99 12:56 PM Demian B Gentry ugentd00@umail.ucsb.edu > > Does anyone know of a list like this in LA? I love sfraves but I >want some local venues. > > One Love > >--Demian a.k.a. Nino Slim > > I think LA Raves got blasted, due to people flaming each other :) http://hyperreal.org/raves/sd/home.html From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:00:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15003 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:00:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 14866 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:00:18 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:00:18 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA18904; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id UAA27061; Wed, 12 May 1999 20:57:28 GMT From: "MooK<><" To: , "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" Subject: RE: Irish in the RAVE scene Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:05:14 -0700 Message-ID: <003e01be9cbb$21695080$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 In-Reply-To: <42ad9c49.246b3af3@aol.com> Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Irish in da scene!!! =D Woohooo!!!! ;-P MooK<>< > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of BigM009@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 1:14 PM > To: nngo@velos.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: Asians in the RAVE scene > > > What does race, gender, or anything else have to do with raves? How are > asians any different from Irish people in the rave scene? Im > just wondering > why you would feel there is a reason to feel differently about asians > especailly since you say you are asian. Im just kinda unclear > exactly what it > is your asking. When I look around at parties I dont see > "asians", I dont > see " Irish", I dont see race, I see vibe. The day we start to > accept the > value of what individuals or other cultures have to offer is the > day when we > can start to accept we are all the same. Peace, M > > Ok, go back to what you were doing. Just me and my big mouth again. > > Groove On > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:01:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17996 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:01:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 17947 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:01:53 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:01:53 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA18977; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:01:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id UAA27180; Wed, 12 May 1999 20:59:12 GMT From: "MooK<><" To: "Max McCauley" , "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" Subject: RE: "homies" in the rave scene. Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:06:59 -0700 Message-ID: <003f01be9cbb$5fbc0e90$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 In-Reply-To: Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Do I get an invite? I wanna play with the Homie's too. =D MooK<>< > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of Max McCauley > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 1:47 PM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: "homies" in the rave scene. > > > > I swear to God: > > One day, I am either going to throw a house party somewhere and invite all > my extra-homie-ish friends AND a bunch of yall, or I am going to drag a > bunch of yall to some "homie" party or I am going to invite a battalion of > my "homie" friends to a small, intimate, positive party. > > Why? Because although there are idiot drugged out, piled up ravers that > are acting like idiots, and because there are thuggish gas face pushy > shovy "homie" idiots....the people I hang out with, are pretty much ALL > GOOD. And we all appreciate the same things....people around us who make > us feel good, music that speaks to our asses and feetsies, and a bit of > mind-expansion. > > (excluding the idiots on every side) WE ALL IN THE SAME GANG. > > 10-4, > duh, > max > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:04:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19667 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:04:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 19658 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:04:40 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:04:40 -0000 Received: from Candida29@aol.com (14393) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vOLSa02054 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 17:02:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Candida29@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 17:02:50 EDT Subject: NRR:resend To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hello, i'm sorry to bother everyone but i accidentally deleted the post about the different ways to "wrap it up". if ay of you still have it, please forward it to me privately, thanx love & lollipops, candy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:04:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19884 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:04:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 19711 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:04:42 -0000 Received: from f205.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.96) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:04:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 72319 invoked by uid 0); 12 May 1999 21:04:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512210415.72318.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.227.43.13 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:04:15 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.227.43.13] From: "Fruit Cup" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: freebie trance mp3 Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:04:15 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk here's a little freebie trance mp3 i ripped from a shoutcast site. anyone interested in trading similar stuff? http://www.stanford.edu/~richl/download/ BeNOW1.mp3, 5.7MB download, 10 minutes long, 80kbit encoding (near cd-quality) if you need an mp3 player go to www.winamp.com. -fruit *** rooty tooty fresh 'n fruity *** From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:06:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21282 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:06:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 21259 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:05:57 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?hYXppgzksiUOvzhOIeSI7A2zzf1v8WG1?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:05:57 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id OAA25825 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:05:54 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:05:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys Subject: RE: Irish in the RAVE scene In-Reply-To: <003e01be9cbb$21695080$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 12 May 1999, MooK<>< wrote: > Irish in da scene!!! =D Woohooo!!!! > How are we different? WE SMUGGLED MAD LIQUOR INTO YOUR PARTY! If you ever see me somewhere that I am not MCing where I have specifically been told not to bring alcohol, and yet I smell like your drunk uncle on Thanksgiving and am hitting on your sister/girlfriend, you will know what I mean! then again, my friend Jimmy Hat Lee who is a deep house mastermind from Jersey/Boston came out here and we finished a bottle of Maker's Mark together during the last Wicked party and the final score was: S. Korea: 3, Republic of Ireland: 3. Wait I guess we are all the same. Never mind. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:08:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23950 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:08:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 23932 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:08:25 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:08:25 -0000 Received: from SpinDazE@aol.com (14398) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vDOHa06446; Wed, 12 May 1999 17:07:04 -0400 (EDT) From: SpinDazE@aol.com Message-ID: <5a0daddf.246b4777@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 17:07:03 EDT Subject: Re: Asians in the RAVE scene To: sfraves@hyperreal.org CC: nngo@velos.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok as a Bay Area ASIAN, I'll specify~> Thai and that's not Taiwanese for some of u Genuises. Being in this scene for nearly 4 yrs, I have noticed a great resurgence of Asians of all kinds at parties. And because "we" can't really handle our drugs, you see them lining the walls and hanging from speakers at your weekly massive. A bit more serious though, due to the fact that we live in the Bay Area, a melting pot of peoples (especially those whom are Asian), it should be expected that as the rave scene in SF grows so will the number of Asian attendees. I don't think that "I don't notice races when I go to parties" BS is true, because it's very noticable depending on how observant you are. It's a good thing to notice the different types of people around you, but it's wrong to judge those people for their differences. ASIAN PRIDE Y"ALL! haha (but I feel ashamed to see my Asian counterparts all e-strumped & e-bumped . . . sigh . . . what happened to the stereotype of Asians being "intellectual?") Your hostess TWINKIE :*:*angel*:*: In a message dated 5/12/99 12:57:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, nngo@velos.com writes: << Hello everyone, I just want to get everyone's opinion on the 'Asian Invasion' in the rave scene within the past 6 months to a year. Do you like it? Do you want it to change? Do you care? You can email me privately if you want. BTW, I am asian but have an openmind about everything. So if you wanna gripe, flame, or say racists things...I'll listen to you with my blindfolds on. Thanks, Nick ---------- >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:18:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 664 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:17:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 563 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:17:36 -0000 Received: from law-f95.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.158) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:17:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 31949 invoked by uid 0); 12 May 1999 21:17:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512211707.31948.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.170.187.224 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:17:07 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.170.187.224] From: "michael waldren" To: mcarey@triad.com, maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:17:07 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am down as fuck, you couldnt be anyy more of a homie than i am. Junglist Mikey >From: "MooK<><" >To: "Max McCauley" , "Supah Freaky Rabbit >Jockeys" >Subject: RE: "homies" in the rave scene. >Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:06:59 -0700 > >Do I get an invite? I wanna play with the Homie's too. =D > >MooK<>< > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > > Behalf Of Max McCauley > > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 1:47 PM > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Subject: "homies" in the rave scene. > > > > > > > > I swear to God: > > > > One day, I am either going to throw a house party somewhere and invite >all > > my extra-homie-ish friends AND a bunch of yall, or I am going to drag a > > bunch of yall to some "homie" party or I am going to invite a battalion >of > > my "homie" friends to a small, intimate, positive party. > > > > Why? Because although there are idiot drugged out, piled up ravers that > > are acting like idiots, and because there are thuggish gas face pushy > > shovy "homie" idiots....the people I hang out with, are pretty much ALL > > GOOD. And we all appreciate the same things....people around us who >make > > us feel good, music that speaks to our asses and feetsies, and a bit of > > mind-expansion. > > > > (excluding the idiots on every side) WE ALL IN THE SAME GANG. > > > > 10-4, > > duh, > > max > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:18:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1086 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:18:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 984 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:18:22 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:18:22 -0000 Received: from WWoodliff@aol.com (527) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vEJUa20904 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 17:17:40 -0400 (EDT) From: WWoodliff@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 17:17:40 EDT Subject: Re: "homies" in the rave scene. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk O.K. I just had to reply to this one. There is a BIG difference here. Sure there are Drugged out ravers that are piled on top of each other and come up and give you sweat drenched hugs while you are dancing or trying to talk to your friends. But these, while being a little irritating, are relatively harmless. Now you have your "homies" who are out there pushing people around and generally intimidating other people at parties. This my friend is not harmless and directly affects others at the party. Now I am not saying this pertains to you or your friends but if you chose to represent yourself in this category you are going to be seen as a thug. The same goes for all of the "Candy Ravers" you may have never taken anything stronger then red bull at a party but if you are running around with a sucker in your mouth a lime green fur coat and an orange boa people are going to assume you are Rollin with the rest of them. A side note to all of this, I had been partying for nearly four years before I saw my first fight at a party. And when I say fight I mean two people were yelling at each other and basically fronting. It has only escalated from there. So now I read things like "there were only two fights the whole night" Just a bit to help some of you understand why some of us might be a little jaded. Much Love JonPaul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:20:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2826 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:20:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 2365 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:19:45 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:19:45 -0000 Received: from BBoiBreks@aol.com (401) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iGAFa24274; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:44:10 -0400 (EDT) From: BBoiBreks@aol.com Message-ID: <41c1c3bb.246b421b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:44:11 EDT Subject: Re: Asians in the RAVE scene To: poeie@hotmail.com, nngo@velos.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Asians are ruining our scene! They're ugly, they're all part of the Asian Pride movement to invade all facets of american culture, and worst of all, they're communist. I feel sorry for those who have fallen victim to their cute little cartoons, you're being brainwashed I tell ya. BRAINWASHED! I also hate the fact that they all look the same, I can never tell them apart. God, and what's up with with the asian fetishes yo, why would anyone want to procreate with such an inferior race. Besides, raves aren't a place for anyone of breeding. Now to the point, why would asians be any different from any other race. Oh no!, The Jews are taking over the scene. Ah shiat, all I can find now are cycloptic breakers. Why are there so many 14 year olds wearing fur? Please, and saying that most asians love trance is overlooking the situation. Has the thought ever entered your little white brain that most partykids loved trance the first time they heard it too? Uh-huh, I was one of them, four years ago I would hunt them down at parties and pray for a safe voyage to their next party, it's a phase. Yeah, it's true that they stick together, just as many people from the same city stick together, and yeah, all asians are related too. It's the demographics; many asian popuations are concentrated in certain areas. While we're at it, why don't we just tel evryone that due to asian traditions, one must always bring moon cakes to asian promoters in order to bode good luck; and when one dances to an asian jungle dj, one must take of their shoes in order not to offend the speaker god, oh, and on the lunar new year, always carry around red envelops stuffed with an even number of dollars to give to asian strangers in order not to get your assed kickedd Sure asians are pretty busted, and they may short as hell too, but that's no reason to bitch about them. Don't hate them cuz they think that they're the shit, hate them cuz they're smarter than you. = ) the whitewashed vietnamese poser bboibreks From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:21:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3059 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:21:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 2951 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:21:07 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:21:07 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EAFUB5MK; Wed, 12 May 1999 17:21:00 EDT To: TeKnODiVa@AOL.COM Cc: SFRAVES@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:07:08 -0700 Subject: Re: Hepheppy HARCORE?!?!?! Message-ID: <19990512.142508.-30765.3.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The fucking jam girl!!!!!! yeah!! Peace, Theresa On Tue, 11 May 1999 21:34:21 EDT TeKnODiVa@aol.com writes: > > "you have a heart of gold.. a precious gift to which I was sold but >I just >can't justify your love. It hurts to see you walk away and i'd like >to ask >you back to stay, to hold you in my arms just one more time. Another >day has >passed me by, a shattered dream and a distant cry and the feeling that >i've >lost my world to you. For a thousand years here I could stand, your >precious >gift held in my hand but I just can't justify your love!!!!!!" > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:22:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3252 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:22:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 3107 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:21:47 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?GlChTnR8XBW4OdBvvTvnNg2l9OGNNIGN?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:21:47 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id OAA28924; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:20:28 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:20:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: michael waldren cc: mcarey@triad.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: In-Reply-To: <19990512211707.31948.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey yo potna...real homies don't have email, and definitely ain't on any mufuckin rave lists, son! damn son! 10-4, duh, max On Wed, 12 May 1999, michael waldren wrote: > I am down as fuck, you couldnt be anyy more of a homie than i am. > > Junglist Mikey > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:22:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3547 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:22:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 3419 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:22:23 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:22:23 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EAFUB5LG; Wed, 12 May 1999 17:21:00 EDT To: tball@aspenmg.com Cc: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:04:11 -0700 Subject: Re: happy Hardcore Message-ID: <19990512.142508.-30765.2.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 6-10,12-23 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I love Happy Hardcore. It is the cheesiest music in the world, but I love it cause it's sentimental. I like fast, hard beats, and i get plenty of em in Happy Hardcore. It's realy the only type of rave music that consistently has a lyric, and even tho the lyrics are cheesy they have really deep e meaning, and I guess it's just kinda fun to sing along. Don't get me wrong, that shit can get really annoying, but a lot of times I'm in the mood for it. Peace, Theresa On Tue, 11 May 1999 16:39:29 -0700 "Ball, Tera" writes: >I was just wondering what everyone's fascination with Happy Hardcore >is! >It is impossible to dance to, it sounds like techno on crack. It >makes >me feel sick! Who ever started this probably did on accident by >spinning his record too fast. If any one could give me one good >reason >why they like this music I would much appreciate it! Thanx. Have a >bitchin' day. >Tera > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:22:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3712 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:22:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 3579 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:22:40 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:22:40 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EAFUB5Q2; Wed, 12 May 1999 17:21:00 EDT To: specialagentb@cwo.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:22:27 -0700 Subject: Re: First Light one year anniversary Message-ID: <19990512.142508.-30765.7.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 6-10,12-26 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I will defintely be there. Macadio is my boy (and my daddy), so gotta show him some love, and the bomb thing is that this party won't get busted. I'll be chillin with Isaac, Kj, and Steve (children of the sun) at the booth, and sneaking off to the jungle room every so often to dance. I'll be wearing my ranibow outfit, which is like the candiest thing I own but I haven't sported in a while, just cause I know my daddy likes it. Peace, Theresa On Wed, 12 May 1999 11:30:51 -0700 "Permanent Press" writes: >just curious if anyone was going to be attending the first light one >year aniv? > >anybody going on have a word on this event? > >permpress > >Event listing: >First Light one year anniversary - DJ's in Room 1:, Mars Vs.Mystre, >Happy Kid Ian Vs. Happy kid Marty, Greg Sandler Vs. AndyW, Macadio, >Andrei Morant (Template Records UK), Room 2:, Hak Vs. Siphon, Rinse >Vs. Flux, Protolab (Live PA), Micron. Sound By Xtreme Audio, Lasers By >UV99. This is a permitted Event. Presales Go on sale 4/20/99 at: F-8, >Solid Grooves, Harmonics and In the mix. 10pm-6am, . 415.646.0763 or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:23:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4671 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:23:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 4487 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:23:27 -0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:23:27 -0000 Received: from fish.hooked.net (byoung@fish.hooked.net [206.80.6.48]) by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA18787; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:23:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:23:25 -0700 (PDT) From: boing X-Sender: byoung@fish.hooked.net To: Max McCauley cc: Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys Subject: NRR Irish in the RAVE scene In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 12 May 1999, Max McCauley wrote: > > > On Wed, 12 May 1999, MooK<>< wrote: > > > Irish in da scene!!! =D Woohooo!!!! > > > > How are we different? WE SMUGGLED MAD LIQUOR INTO YOUR PARTY! > now that the irishes in da house, let me axe u this: is the guinness in ireland really different from guiness sold here? b- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:24:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6929 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:24:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 6722 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:24:45 -0000 Received: from netcom4.netcom.com (192.100.81.107) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:24:45 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom4.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id OAA03312; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:24:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:24:14 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: RE: Irish in the RAVE scene To: Max McCauley cc: Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 12 May 1999, Max McCauley wrote: > been told not to bring alcohol, and yet I smell like your drunk uncle on ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Hey! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:31:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15589 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:31:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 15569 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:31:09 -0000 Received: from law-f30.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.93) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:31:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 9043 invoked by uid 0); 12 May 1999 21:30:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512213042.9042.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.170.187.224 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:30:42 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.170.187.224] From: "michael waldren" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Say What? Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:30:42 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This message is for all those clowns headed out to the first light... This party will not even be remotely as good as the one i am headed to. The Formula. Nuff said. PLUR and all that shiot. Junglist Mikey From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:31:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16178 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:31:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 16061 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:31:32 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?x7/3WWN8sFg8umAY3PnQ8nApJvNzRxJs?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:31:32 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id OAA01709; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:31:20 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:31:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: boing cc: Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys Subject: Re: NRR Irish in the RAVE scene In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 12 May 1999, boing wrote: > > now that the irishes in da house, let me axe u this: > > is the guinness in ireland really different from guiness sold here? Yes, in terms of consitancy, flavor, freshness, alcohol level, everything. http://www.guinness.ie I think is the website, and it's incredible. Get a screensaver! 10-4, duh, max, slowly approaching 6 posts today From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:32:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16600 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:32:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 16558 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:32:03 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:32:03 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-197.dsp.com [204.118.76.197]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA07606; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:32:00 -0700 Message-Id: <199905122132.OAA07606@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:30:44 -0700 To: nngo@velos.com (Nick Ngo), From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: Asians in the RAVE scene In-Reply-To: <01b401be9cb1$8e3c1800$ac0318d1@ssimarkfmt> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hiya! I personally love it when the crowd is multicultural, and get hives when I look around and notice how very white this scene seems at the younger-crowd events. But what I've also noticed at those, recently, isn't an "Asian invasion" so much as an "Asian gang presence." The operative word being gang. I see groups of guys who all have matching, really big, tattoos. I see girls getting treated like complete shit, and they seem to feel that it's appropriate. I see groups of people taking up room on the floor but not dancing or pushing you out of your dancing space so they can hang out and look bad. I see alot of proto-sex between peer-pressure-predatory guys and delerious girls who just want to lick their blowpops or play with each other's hair. But that could be girls and boys from any culture, if they're in the heat of late adolescence and/or in a gang scene. Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:32:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16714 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:32:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 16564 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:32:05 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd85.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.149) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:32:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 72493 invoked by uid 0); 12 May 1999 21:34:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512213415.72492.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.72.193.86 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:34:15 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.72.193.86] From: "David Ramirez" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: re: asains in the scene Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:34:15 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk why yall trippin off races.. shit.. jus have a good time.. anyone got a prob. wit mexicans in tha scene??.. david.. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:32:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17089 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:32:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 16925 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:32:23 -0000 Received: from x15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:32:23 -0000 Received: (from elias_smith@juno.com) by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EAFUQV3S; Wed, 12 May 1999 17:27:59 EDT To: mcarey@triad.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 00:45:09 -0700 Subject: Re: Irish & Asian in the RAVE scene Message-ID: <19990423.004511.-916251.1.Elias_Smith@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: the town drunk Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Irish & Asian in da scene!!! =D Woohooo!!!! Yup, I'm a mutt... On Wed, 12 May 1999 14:05:14 -0700 "MooK<><" writes: >Irish in da scene!!! =D Woohooo!!!! > > >> What does race, gender, or anything else have to do with raves? How >are >> asians any different from Irish people in the rave scene? Im >> just wondering >> why you would feel there is a reason to feel differently about >asians >> especailly since you say you are asian. Im just kinda unclear >> exactly what it >> is your asking. When I look around at parties I dont see >> "asians", I dont >> see " Irish", I dont see race, I see vibe. The day we start to >> accept the >> value of what individuals or other cultures have to offer is the >> day when we >> can start to accept we are all the same. Peace, M or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:36:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21233 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:36:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 21203 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:36:13 -0000 Received: from saga18.stanford.edu (171.64.15.148) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:36:13 -0000 Received: (from adia@localhost) by saga18.Stanford.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.7) id OAA14306; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:36:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:36:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Adia Coleman To: michael waldren cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Say What? In-Reply-To: <19990512213042.9042.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What is the formula? What's going on there and where? Hopefully on May 15 saturday. Can you tell me more? thanx >Hi. I was on the internet last night looking for some good raves that will happen on may 15 saturday. I want to take a bunch of my friends raving for my birthday. I couldn't find any. Does anyone know of a rave (perferably more than two rooms with jungle, drum n bass, house, trans....from 9ish to 6am) that will be happening either in SF or oakland on saturday. I'm desparate! Thanks, Adia On Wed, 12 May 1999, michael waldren wrote: > This message is for all those clowns headed out to the first light... > This party will not even be remotely as good as the one i am headed to. > The Formula. Nuff said. PLUR and all that shiot. > > Junglist Mikey > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:36:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22186 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:36:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 22177 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:36:50 -0000 Received: from ateendra.pimpmaster.org (root@206.79.193.182) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:36:50 -0000 Received: from mohan (oak-ts2-h1-50-80.ispmodems.net [209.162.50.80]) by ateendra.pimpmaster.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA12449 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:42:34 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: From: "Mohan Veloo" To: "SFRaves" Subject: Free money for surfing the web Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:35:42 -0700 Message-ID: <000401be9cbf$6321d200$4e14a8c0@altro.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <003301be9cb9$1180f760$b4570118@C42488-A.pinol1.sfba.home.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OK... 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Check it out!! http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=BUL229 Moo From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:39:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25069 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:39:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 25047 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:39:29 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:39:29 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-h3 (mmf32.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.102]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA25939; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:39:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905122139.OAA25939@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: chocolate976@hotmail.com From: "Rafie" Subject: Re: Waiting for the emergence of 2 separate scenes CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:42:44 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Can all you FREAKS stop tripping about Paul*E*Wog!? "The attention that he lacks within the SFR scene?" What? No, actually, every other post is regarding him. "Paul is a bitch," or "no he's just sarcastic" or "i hear he is gay and eats dogs." SHUT UP!! He certainly is not lacking in attention either on SFR or at parties. If you would like to further analyze the depths of his psyche then why don't you meet him in PERSON or private email him or something? Until then, shut yo BITCH ASSES! How can you talk about someone you don't even know? All these posts serve no purpose. Rafie On Tue, 11 May 1999 12:44:33 PDT, chocolate976@hotmail.com wrote... >OMG, i finally see where PAUL E is coming from. >This is all a big ploy, just a shout out for the attention that he lacks >within the SFR scene. > >And he wasnt serious, he never is. >In fact he was being sarcastic about being not sarcastic. Get it. >I am not gonna go back on my theorys oor anything, i mean i still wanna >beat >the livin shit outta this kid, but you guys need to just let it and him go. > >Junglist Mikey > >>From: Radley Marx >>To: Paul*E*Wog >>CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org >>Subject: Re: Waiting for the emergence of 2 separate scenes >>Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:01:08 -0700 >> >> >Dude!!! For reals. I for one would like to say something serious. I >> >HATE... HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE raves. Every time some e-traded candy >> >trash bitch comes up and tries to hug me i feel like pushing them on the >> >floor and ripping those nasty beads off their neck. I hate ravers. I >> >hate raves. They are a waste of time. There are better things to do in >> >life besides ecstacy. >> > >> >I really wish i had never gone. >> > >> >I am regretting that day very much now. >> > >> >I hate CYBER TRANCE!!!!! And the party at Skills just reminded me how >> >ugly our sf scene is. It's disgusting. Its gross. It needs to be hosed >> >down. Those kids are gross, sweaty, can't coordinate their clothes. And >> >they are overly tacky. >> >It makes me sick to think that promoters would welcome this kind of >> >trash into their venue? >> > >> >What happened to invite only parities??? Where is the UG? I am going to >> >throw my own party and handpick the people i want to be there from the >> >crowd. >> > >> >I hate ravers. They suck!!!! I hate ravers... >> > >> >This is not sarcasm. This is serious. I despise this scene and what it >> >has become. It's nothing but a farm of kids on drugs. Make me feel gross >> >to be apart of this. I want out!!! >> > >> >=Paul*E*Wog >> >> >>wow dude, I hope you're just having a bad day. may I take this chance to >>offer another point of view? >> >>yeah, drugs suck. but don't bash on the people of our scene. I just heard >a >>comedian describe it like this: "me and a friend went to Disneyland >high... >>and we were convinced that everyone there was ugly but us." This is a not >>so talked about natural reaction to people. Remember, they were dancing in >>the dirt. What else did you really expect? >> >>Invite only parties are still out there. Maybe you're not aware of them >>because of kind of the messages you're sending out. We could invite you to >>one of our private events, but why since you've attacked my friends? >You're >>focusing on the bad and lashing out; that's a lot for others to deal with. >> >>Hey, I've done it too, so you're easily forgiven. >>But next time: at least make it funny! >> >>Sorry the scene is so ugly. >> >>Fix it. Make it better. I'll help you if you want. >> >> >>-r >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:41:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27718 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:41:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 27697 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:41:12 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:41:12 -0000 Received: from BreAthNYoO@aol.com (7817) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vUCNa16495 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 17:39:51 -0400 (EDT) From: BreAthNYoO@aol.com Message-ID: <8eff9979.246b4f36@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 17:40:06 EDT Subject: RAVERS IN THE RAVE SCENE To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk LOL lookit you ppl. . . o my. Take one step back.. look yourself up and down. Love and Light eSs From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:44:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29704 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:43:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 29689 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:43:57 -0000 Received: from web501.yahoomail.com (128.11.68.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:43:57 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512215142.24778.rocketmail@web501.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.119.128.253] by web501.yahoomail.com; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:51:42 PDT Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:51:42 -0700 (PDT) From: What is a dic-so bunny Subject: Re: Waiting for the emergence of 2 separate scenes To: "Hib Ta Da Hibbidy Hop" "and da Boccoli" Biff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk PAUL IS DEAD. :) --- Rafie wrote: > Can all you FREAKS stop tripping about Paul*E*Wog!? > > "The attention that he lacks within the SFR scene?" > What? No, actually, > every other post is regarding him. "Paul is a > bitch," or "no he's just > sarcastic" or "i hear he is gay and eats dogs." SHUT > UP!! He certainly is > not lacking in attention either on SFR or at > parties. > > If you would like to further analyze the depths of > his psyche then why > don't you meet him in PERSON or private email him or > something? Until then, > shut yo BITCH ASSES! How can you talk about someone > you don't even know? > All these posts serve no purpose. > > Rafie > > > On Tue, 11 May 1999 12:44:33 PDT, > chocolate976@hotmail.com wrote... > >OMG, i finally see where PAUL E is coming from. > >This is all a big ploy, just a shout out for the > attention that he lacks > >within the SFR scene. > > > >And he wasnt serious, he never is. > >In fact he was being sarcastic about being not > sarcastic. Get it. > >I am not gonna go back on my theorys oor anything, > i mean i still wanna > >beat > >the livin shit outta this kid, but you guys need to > just let it and him > go. > > > >Junglist Mikey > > > >>From: Radley Marx > >>To: Paul*E*Wog > >>CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org > >>Subject: Re: Waiting for the emergence of 2 > separate scenes > >>Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:01:08 -0700 > >> > >> >Dude!!! For reals. I for one would like to say > something serious. I > >> >HATE... HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE raves. Every > time some e-traded candy > >> >trash bitch comes up and tries to hug me i feel > like pushing them on > the > >> >floor and ripping those nasty beads off their > neck. I hate ravers. I > >> >hate raves. They are a waste of time. There are > better things to do in > >> >life besides ecstacy. > >> > > >> >I really wish i had never gone. > >> > > >> >I am regretting that day very much now. > >> > > >> >I hate CYBER TRANCE!!!!! And the party at Skills > just reminded me how > >> >ugly our sf scene is. It's disgusting. Its > gross. It needs to be hosed > >> >down. Those kids are gross, sweaty, can't > coordinate their clothes. And > >> >they are overly tacky. > >> >It makes me sick to think that promoters would > welcome this kind of > >> >trash into their venue? > >> > > >> >What happened to invite only parities??? Where > is the UG? I am going to > >> >throw my own party and handpick the people i > want to be there from the > >> >crowd. > >> > > >> >I hate ravers. They suck!!!! I hate ravers... > >> > > >> >This is not sarcasm. This is serious. I despise > this scene and what it > >> >has become. It's nothing but a farm of kids on > drugs. Make me feel > gross > >> >to be apart of this. I want out!!! > >> > > >> >=Paul*E*Wog > >> > >> > >>wow dude, I hope you're just having a bad day. may > I take this chance to > >>offer another point of view? > >> > >>yeah, drugs suck. but don't bash on the people of > our scene. I just heard > >a > >>comedian describe it like this: "me and a friend > went to Disneyland > >high... > >>and we were convinced that everyone there was ugly > but us." This is a not > >>so talked about natural reaction to people. > Remember, they were dancing > in > >>the dirt. What else did you really expect? > >> > >>Invite only parties are still out there. Maybe > you're not aware of them > >>because of kind of the messages you're sending > out. We could invite you > to > >>one of our private events, but why since you've > attacked my friends? > >You're > >>focusing on the bad and lashing out; that's a lot > for others to deal > with. > >> > >>Hey, I've done it too, so you're easily forgiven. > >>But next time: at least make it funny! > >> > >>Sorry the scene is so ugly. > >> > >>Fix it. Make it better. I'll help you if you want. > >> > >> > >>-r > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > === Fievel and Dinky Little SUCK DONKEY Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:48:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3110 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:48:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 3073 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:48:02 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:48:02 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-h3 (mmf32.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.102]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA17524; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905122148.OAA17524@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: etraver@ix.netcom.com From: "Rafie" Subject: RE: NRR: Other types of music CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:51:28 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk * Radiohead * The Cure * Belle & Sebastian * Portishead * Joao Gilberto * Jamiroquai * Joni Mitchell * Depeche Mode * Anime music * Morcheeba * Simon & Garfunkel * Pizzicato 5 * Deep Forest * Choral music * Digable Planets * Elliot Smith Rafie On Tue, 11 May 1999 22:39:53 -0800, etraver@ix.netcom.com wrote... >Alright, I know we(the list) did this a while back, but I'm trying to >bring it back. > >Name off some music(singers, bands, artists, etc...) that you like that >aren't techno/electronica music related. > >-Doran Doran >-DM >-Metelica( older stuff) >-Lauren Hill >-Def Tones >-Doors >-Ubiquitous > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:48:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3832 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:48:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 3815 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:48:25 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:48:25 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-197.dsp.com [204.118.76.197]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA07976; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:48:23 -0700 Message-Id: <199905122148.OAA07976@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:47:07 -0700 To: "David Ramirez" , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: re: asains in the scene In-Reply-To: <19990512213415.72492.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Whoa there, doesn't seem like anyone has a problem with anyone or thing race/culture related, to me. Or am I just missing something? Gettin' old, Jessica (1/4 Mexican, 1/2 Irish, general American melting pot) At 02:34 PM 5/12/99 -0700, David Ramirez wrote: >why yall trippin off races.. shit.. jus have a good time.. anyone got a >prob. wit mexicans in tha scene??.. >david.. > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:51:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6384 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:51:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 6367 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:51:42 -0000 Received: from pohl.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:51:42 -0000 Received: from godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.46]) by pohl.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id RAA22785; Wed, 12 May 1999 17:50:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id RAA02229; Wed, 12 May 1999 17:50:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 17:50:43 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu To: Mohan Veloo cc: SFRaves Subject: Re: Free money for surfing the web In-Reply-To: <000401be9cbf$6321d200$4e14a8c0@altro.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk it may be fine and dandy that you can make money while surfing the web, but when you send an e-mail to an entire group of poeple, ALL of whom you do not know, especially if you are receiving a benefit through member referal, this is called spamming, and is something that can give cause to remove you from a mailing list. i am not threatening anyone but i also do not like my e-mail cluttered with this stuff, especially when i get enough of this stuff from my friends (and i have recieved this information from other freinds at least 3 times.) think before you post to this list, and read the rules/guidlines of sfraves as well. amber --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:53:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7995 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:53:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 7979 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:53:20 -0000 Received: from web501.yahoomail.com (128.11.68.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:53:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512220105.26335.rocketmail@web501.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.119.128.253] by web501.yahoomail.com; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:01:05 PDT Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:01:05 -0700 (PDT) From: What is a dic-so bunny Subject: RE: NRR: Other types of music To: "Hib Ta Da Hibbidy Hop" "and da Boccoli" Biff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Janis Joplin The Beatles Jimi Hendrix Lauryn Hill Erykah Badu RICKY MARTIN!!!!!!! sherri ;p > On Tue, 11 May 1999 22:39:53 -0800, > etraver@ix.netcom.com wrote... > >Alright, I know we(the list) did this a while back, > but I'm trying to > >bring it back. > > > >Name off some music(singers, bands, artists, > etc...) that you like that > >aren't techno/electronica music related. === Fievel and Dinky Little SUCK DONKEY Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:55:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9549 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:55:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 9525 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:55:00 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:55:00 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (3933) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iNILa04195; Wed, 12 May 1999 17:36:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <59181fe.246b4e66@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 17:36:38 EDT Subject: Re: To: chocolate976@hotmail.com, mcarey@triad.com, maxmcc@csua.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk DONT FORGET the big homie of them all....DJMEGATRON..boh boh boh boh... the homie who makes the most noise in the jungle room, spins an eklectical style of jungle, lives in richmond and even do ghetto ass house parties on the mobil dj tip too. well soon the homies will unite once and for all....all hail the DECEPTICONS DJMEGATRON:mechasoul:GHETTOTEKROLLAZ In a message dated 5/12/99 5:18:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, chocolate976@hotmail.com writes: << I am down as fuck, you couldnt be anyy more of a homie than i am. Junglist Mikey >From: "MooK<><" >To: "Max McCauley" , "Supah Freaky Rabbit >Jockeys" >Subject: RE: "homies" in the rave scene. >Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:06:59 -0700 > >Do I get an invite? I wanna play with the Homie's too. =D > >MooK<>< > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > > Behalf Of Max McCauley > > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 1:47 PM > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Subject: "homies" in the rave scene. > > > > > > > > I swear to God: > > > > One day, I am either going to throw a house party somewhere and invite >all > > my extra-homie-ish friends AND a bunch of yall, or I am going to drag a > > bunch of yall to some "homie" party or I am going to invite a battalion >of > > my "homie" friends to a small, intimate, positive party. > > > > Why? Because although there are idiot drugged out, piled up ravers that > > are acting like idiots, and because there are thuggish gas face pushy > > shovy "homie" idiots....the people I hang out with, are pretty much ALL > > GOOD. And we all appreciate the same things....people around us who >make > > us feel good, music that speaks to our asses and feetsies, and a bit of > > mind-expansion. > > > > (excluding the idiots on every side) WE ALL IN THE SAME GANG. > > > > 10-4, > > duh, > > max > > > >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 21:55:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10387 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 21:55:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 10378 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 21:55:45 -0000 Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 21:55:45 -0000 Received: from best.com ([216.132.92.5]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id OAA05180; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3739F7E1.450EAAFA@best.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:51:29 -0700 From: just jer Organization: @spire X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rafie CC: chocolate976@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Waiting for the emergence of 2 separate scenes References: <199905122139.OAA25939@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Soon we'll have message subjects with NPR:, non-Paul related Rafie wrote: > > Can all you FREAKS stop tripping about Paul*E*Wog!? > > "The attention that he lacks within the SFR scene?" What? No, actually, > every other post is regarding him. "Paul is a bitch," or "no he's just > sarcastic" or "i hear he is gay and eats dogs." SHUT UP!! He certainly is > not lacking in attention either on SFR or at parties. > > If you would like to further analyze the depths of his psyche then why > don't you meet him in PERSON or private email him or something? Until then, > shut yo BITCH ASSES! How can you talk about someone you don't even know? > All these posts serve no purpose. > > Rafie > > On Tue, 11 May 1999 12:44:33 PDT, > chocolate976@hotmail.com wrote... > >OMG, i finally see where PAUL E is coming from. > >This is all a big ploy, just a shout out for the attention that he lacks > >within the SFR scene. > > > >And he wasnt serious, he never is. > >In fact he was being sarcastic about being not sarcastic. Get it. > >I am not gonna go back on my theorys oor anything, i mean i still wanna > >beat > >the livin shit outta this kid, but you guys need to just let it and him > go. > > > >Junglist Mikey > > > >>From: Radley Marx > >>To: Paul*E*Wog > >>CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org > >>Subject: Re: Waiting for the emergence of 2 separate scenes > >>Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:01:08 -0700 > >> > >> >Dude!!! For reals. I for one would like to say something serious. I > >> >HATE... HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE raves. Every time some e-traded candy > >> >trash bitch comes up and tries to hug me i feel like pushing them on > the > >> >floor and ripping those nasty beads off their neck. I hate ravers. I > >> >hate raves. They are a waste of time. There are better things to do in > >> >life besides ecstacy. > >> > > >> >I really wish i had never gone. > >> > > >> >I am regretting that day very much now. > >> > > >> >I hate CYBER TRANCE!!!!! And the party at Skills just reminded me how > >> >ugly our sf scene is. It's disgusting. Its gross. It needs to be hosed > >> >down. Those kids are gross, sweaty, can't coordinate their clothes. And > >> >they are overly tacky. > >> >It makes me sick to think that promoters would welcome this kind of > >> >trash into their venue? > >> > > >> >What happened to invite only parities??? Where is the UG? I am going to > >> >throw my own party and handpick the people i want to be there from the > >> >crowd. > >> > > >> >I hate ravers. They suck!!!! I hate ravers... > >> > > >> >This is not sarcasm. This is serious. I despise this scene and what it > >> >has become. It's nothing but a farm of kids on drugs. Make me feel > gross > >> >to be apart of this. I want out!!! > >> > > >> >=Paul*E*Wog > >> > >> > >>wow dude, I hope you're just having a bad day. may I take this chance to > >>offer another point of view? > >> > >>yeah, drugs suck. but don't bash on the people of our scene. I just heard > >a > >>comedian describe it like this: "me and a friend went to Disneyland > >high... > >>and we were convinced that everyone there was ugly but us." This is a not > >>so talked about natural reaction to people. Remember, they were dancing > in > >>the dirt. What else did you really expect? > >> > >>Invite only parties are still out there. Maybe you're not aware of them > >>because of kind of the messages you're sending out. We could invite you > to > >>one of our private events, but why since you've attacked my friends? > >You're > >>focusing on the bad and lashing out; that's a lot for others to deal > with. > >> > >>Hey, I've done it too, so you're easily forgiven. > >>But next time: at least make it funny! > >> > >>Sorry the scene is so ugly. > >> > >>Fix it. Make it better. I'll help you if you want. > >> > >> > >>-r > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 22:02:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14876 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 22:02:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 14843 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 22:02:08 -0000 Received: from mail2.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 22:02:08 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (ABD61CE3.ipt.aol.com [171.214.28.227]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26911; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3739FAB5.D03B2D7C@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:03:33 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: AndyW CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: about Paul*E*Wog's comments on the scene References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk WOW! That's all I've got to say about that right now... =Paul*E*Wog AndyW wrote: > > On Tue, 11 May 1999, Paul*E*Wog wrote: > > -&e->I am just stirring up shit and hoping that people will stop ignoring the > -&e->negative in this scene. If everyone keeps looking past all the negative > -&e->bullshit then it will never be dealt with. Stop ignoring all the crap > -&e->that goes on in this scene. PLUR is not going to solve the problems. > > You're right. Plur says nothing about DIY, about throwing free renegades > in places that you might end up wearing handcuffs for, about spinning a > different set every time you play out, about trying when it seems like > nobody's listening, about having double the prop/light/laser/dj budget as > other parties charging the same ticket price, about going the extra mile > even though there isn't an extra dollar in doing so. > > -&e->Some people need a good kick in the ass to wake up. This scene is dead. > -&e->Sorry if you think its alive... The scene I know is dead. What you see > -&e->now is the remains of a once thriving scene. Imagine the positive points > -&e->of this community X 10. That is what i know. That is now what i see. I > -&e->am sure before me... the scene was even better. Still, what i know of > -&e->the scene is better than what we have now. > > Specifically, why? Paul, not to be an ass, but you might have looked like > them to me when you first started out, and you 'turned out' okay... I'd > even go so far as to say I like you nowadays. You're a nice guy... even > with the fur. > > -&e->Wake up... don't lie to yourself. The scene is dead. The music has died. > -&e->It's the same repetitive bullshit over and over. As long as promoters > -&e->keep booking the same DJs over and over again we will never bring back > -&e->the life to this party. > > Especially if those DJs play the same tired records from the same tired > genre in the same tired order. You know who you are, and you're no better > than snake oil salesmen, charlatans, carnies pulling one over on the > crowd. Playing DATs when they claim to be spinning live, telling others > DJs not to play "their" signature tracks (despite having nothing to do > with writing or producing them in any way), covering labels, making > mixtapes using software instead of a mixer and a pair of decks, or playing > the same canned set night after night in the same city... hoping everbody > in the crowd is high enough to not notice the fact that it's the same old > same old. I'm not saying stop spinning, but I AM saying try a little bit > harder, people can tell. There are people who love what you do, give that > sentiment back with as much creativity, practice and love as you can > muster. > > So I'll agree with you there Paul... > > -&e->Where is the spirituality. Where are the kids on soap boxes telling the > -&e->people how it is? Where is the knowledge? This scene has gotten stupid. > -&e->The tripping mentality is gone. Welcome to the fucked up on drugs > -&e->mentality... > > What I'm asking is: Where is the self-respect mentality? It's not a > question of what drugs people are taking, it's a question of what they're > all about in the first place. To be honest, even the noblest "tripping > mentality" finds alleys of your mind that will be familiar after a while > and not yield those insights you once found so amazing... some people get > high for knowledge, some for curiosity, some for escape, some just cause > it feels good, some cause they don't know another way, and some just > choose not to use. I can't judge those reasons, but I can ask that people > be careful and use drugs in a way that they'll be here to see the sun rise > tomorrow and hope that registers. > > -&e->Realize and stop looking past the negativity. Change it now so there > -&e->will be something to dance to later... > > Working on it. So are a lot of other people who LOVE it when it still > happens for them. People like Radley Marx who gets a slot at Skills and > calls me up to offer to split the slot with me cause he thinks 2x4ing is > just plain fun, or Bobby from Honey who paid all the DJs gas money after > they agreed to play for free, or Jahsh who has driven my sound system > around the world like five times now and asked little in return, or Greg > Sandler who has valued my opinions despite me being just a whiny stinking > newbie DJ, or the crazy bastards who spend hours burying power cable at a > campout party so nobody trips over it, or any DJ who stays committed to a > free booking when they could have dropped that for a paying one, or the > promoter who knocks a couple bucks off the price when they know they could > charge more, or the kid who decides to buy herself a water and decides to > get another one for the guy who has been dancing for three hours straight > and hasn't opened his eyes once just to be nice. As long as there is > integrity and love of the scene, we're fine... and despite seeing a lot of > things I'd rather not, I still see those moments that bring me back often > enough to keep doing it.... moments that are pretty unique to the rave > scene. > > The funny part about all of this is, it's a catch 22. The scene is > amazing, as long as we all feel we belong, and we're all in love with it. > When the air is full of criticism, the magic starts to disappear. The > divisions along lines of junglist and goahead, of househead and > trancehead, hardcore and techno, of UG and massive are all as fucking lame > as the day is long. I've heard a lot of people say exactly what you're > saying lately, and I heard people saying similar things years before... it > can't stay the same, the 'scene' is as alive as we are. Some will stay > and some will go. There are those who will draw energy from the scene and > walk away when they don't feel it anymore, and there are those who > continue to add creativity, risk, effort, and their various personal gifts > selflessly in order to keep it as vibrant and beautiful as the night they > discovered in a haze of blacklit awe and unfamiliarity. > > We are freaks, fuckups, weirdos, lame asses, candy trash, cynical > technobastards and every other explicative you can think of. But we do > things that are extraordinary, that teach that there's another way. If > that's too "hippy" then fine, but that's why I keep doing it. > > Peace, > AndyW From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 22:05:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18402 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 22:05:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 18248 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 22:05:12 -0000 Received: from law-f216.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.126) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 22:05:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 86504 invoked by uid 0); 12 May 1999 22:04:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512220444.86503.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.240.31 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:04:44 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.240.31] From: "Amber Leahey" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: (NRR)STAR WARS Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:04:44 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm soooo fricking happy! I got tickets for the first day. To the few of you who know me on the list, you must know how incredibly stoked I am. Stoked like a fire! YAAAAAAHOOOOOOO! O.K. enough gloating. Back to my menial existence. Amber (A.K.A. st*rgrrl) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 22:06:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19437 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 22:06:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 19423 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 22:06:49 -0000 Received: from mail2.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 22:06:49 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (ABD61CE3.ipt.aol.com [171.214.28.227]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00399; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:05:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3739FBC7.AB63A810@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:08:07 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SpinDazE@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org, galatictunnel@hotmail.com, JungljunkE@aol.com, pikachu4ru@hotmail.com, CanContrl@aol.com, Smitde6@usfca.edu, Jana474@aol.com, CuteZRaver@aol.com, Jules1580@aol.com, megryanusf@hotmail.com, faroom5@usfca.edu, amirni2@usfca.edu Subject: Re: It's National Condom week!! (NRR) References: <743b4685.246a5119@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'd just like to remind you Angel... you got dissed my a dog at Skills Day Party! He did not want to have sex with you... That dog was bigger than you!!!! He would have smothered you! =Paul*E*Wog SpinDazE@aol.com wrote: > > Practice Safe Sex! > > 1. COVER YOUR STUMP BEFORE U HUMP > 2. BEFORE YOU ATTACK HER, WRAP YOUR WHACKER > 3. DON'T BE SILLY, PROTECT YOUR WILLY > 4. WHEN IN DOUBT, SHROUD YOUR SPOUT > 5. DON'T BE A LONER, COVER YOUR BONER > 6. YOU CAN'T GO WRONG IF YOU SHIELD YOUR DONG > 7. IF YOU'RE NOT GOIN TO SACK IT, GO HOME AND WHACK IT > 8. IF YOU THINK SHE'S SPUNKY, COVER YOUR MONKEY > 9. IF YOU SLIP BETWEEN HER THIGHS, BE SURE TO CONDOMIZE > 10. IT WILL BE SWEETER IF YOU WRAP YOUR PETER > 11. SHE WON'T GET SICK IF YOU WRAP YOUR DICK > 12. IF YOU GO IN HEAT, PACKAGE YOUR MEAT > 13. WHILE YOU'RE UNDRESSING VENUS, DRESS UP YOUR PENIS > 14. WHEN YOU TAKE OFF HER PANTS AND BLOUSE, ZIP UP YOUR TROUSER MOUSE > (WHAT!?!? does neone know what that is? > 15. ESPECIALLY IN DECEMBER, GIFT WRAP YOUR MEMBER > 16. NEVER, NEVER DECK HER WITH AN UNWRAPPED PECKER > 17. DON'T BE A FOOL, VULCANIZE YOUR TOOL > 18. THE RIGHT SELECTION WILL PROTECT YOUR ERECTION > 19. WRAP IT IN FOIL BEFORE CHECKING HER OIL > 20. A CRANK WITH ARMOR WILL NEVER HARM HER > 21. NO GLOVE, NO LOVE! > 22. IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE IT OFF, HAVE IT ON From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 22:13:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24594 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 22:13:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 24522 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 22:13:12 -0000 Received: from mail2.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 22:13:12 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (ABD61CE3.ipt.aol.com [171.214.28.227]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04624; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:12:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3739FD4E.2115E1A1@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:14:38 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mike bolger CC: AlexG1029@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: but seriously, References: <19990512050555.17931.rocketmail@web705.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The world is not progressing... If anything... we have already become just like our cavemen ancestors... even still they didn't criminalize the plants and animals that bore wisdom... But anyways... if i have any syndrome it's turret's... Bitch!! Piss on me muther fucker! Tit hoe slut fuck you!!! Sorry... =Paul*E*Wog mike bolger wrote: > > --- Paul*E*Wog wrote: > > > > > > Some people need a good kick in the ass to wake up. > > This scene is dead. > > Sorry if you think its alive... The scene I know is > > dead. What you see > > now is the remains of a once thriving scene. The scene is dead. > > > > P.S. The scene is not what I make of it. it is what > > WE make of it. And > > we are not making anything of it. > > > > ah, i see that you are suffering from some of the early stages of the > 'progress' syndrome. it's one of the early warning signs before the > scene consumes and spits you out. don't worry, it's always hurts the > most the first time. > > the underground disco scene is a single and she always will be. she's > freaky and misunderstood like James Brown, she's punk rock proud and > sometimes sick like Janes Addiction, she's exotic and weird intelligent > like Bjork, she's got moves like Jet-Li, and she fucks like Madonna. > > i'll say that again. the rave scene will take your affections, but > she's not looking to be your girlfriend. this is an open relationship. > she's gonna see other people. she's carefree like that and she's gonna > have her flings and affairs and get naked in public and jump into an > orgy or 2 at Burning Man and in her weaker moments she'll even have a 1 > night stand with that homophobic tweaker guy who used to make slut > jokes about her in public. try not to hate her for it. > if you go into this relationship expecting it to be monogamous and with > all these preconcieved notions of how "your" scene should behave and > who She should see, you setting youself up for a hard fall. that's why > they call it a crush. do you want to end up like all those jaded > promoters that started out leaving voice messages about hugging trees > and then left writing scene reports in Lotus magazine about shooting > dogs in the head ? now see, personally, i wouldn't want to go out like > that. > > this town is filled with romantic fools compeating for her affections, > but none of them can touch my track record. i've allways been the > victim of these grand over-the-top romantic gestures and made a fool > out of myself many, many, times by performing grand gestures where i'm > not wanted, so i can speak from some experience on these matters. > > but seriously, if you want to see more of her give something of > yourself. throw your own party, learn how to beat match, put out your > own fanzine, get a copy of photoshop or quark. it can be a great excuse > to meet people. > > and Paul, sorry about throwing that 'trashy bitches' comment back in > your face. that was out of line. my karma's fucked up enough as it is > without me talking about bitches on sfraves. > > Bolger > > > AlexG1029@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > okey i know that Paul is the king of sarcasm but > > as much as i tried to look > > > for some in this last post i couldnt find any > > > are u seriously serious Paul? cuz if u are then i > > suggest u look again > > > this scene is what YOU make of it > > > im not talkin about everybody else im talkin about > > YOU and what u make of the > > > scene for urslef > > > while i agree that some people are using this > > scene in the stupidest way > > > possible and destroyin it for everybody else it > > doesnt mean that everybody is > > > like that > > > the sf scene is a really beautiful thing if u look > > deep inside it > > > example? just 2 weeks ago when Hi! got broken up > > some 40-50 kids went lookin > > > for a free party that was goin on somewhere around > > daly city on the beach > > > we didnt find it....guess what we did? we just sat > > on the beach around a fire > > > we formed a tight circle to keep each other warm > > and just talked and chilled > > > for the rest of the nite > > > people who mostly didnt even know each other were > > best friends for the nite > > > the strongest of us hung around to watch the sun > > go up....it was beautiful! > > > thats where the real meanin of this scene is: in > > unity > > > yes half of the people there were on drugs but if > > drugs are what it takes to > > > achieve unity then hell im down with em > > > only i dont think that drugs are what it > > takes....its people > > > people who have been touched by the unity and > > opened up to it > > > drugs are only there for the fun which all of us > > love to have > > > and yes some people abuse drugs and give our scene > > a bad name but they > > > shouldnt bother u unless u have the same drug > > problem....is that the case > > > Paul? > > > would u rather have an e-tarded "candy-ass" come > > up to u and give u a hug or > > > some gangster stab u in the back? > > > if all this scene does for u is disgust u with its > > 2nd/jackson dirty floors > > > and un-color-coordinated candy kids and the drugs > > then u really should be out > > > of it....but maybe u should try to see past all > > that and find the real > > > meanin: unity and love for ur each other > > > isnt that what the world leaders say theyre > > thrivin towards? only they think > > > theyll achieve it by droppin bombs on each others > > heads > > > well mr HARDCORE if u wanna join them and be out > > of the scene ur more then > > > welcome to....the scene will only benefit from it > > > but u either get out or be in and dont pretend > > like ur in and say things like > > > u did on the background > > > > > > PeAcE OuT > > > alEx =.) > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 22:17:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 980 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 22:17:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 893 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 22:17:19 -0000 Received: from mail.healthoutcomes.com (HELO marketing.healthoutcomes.com) (209.24.3.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 22:17:19 -0000 Received: from nngo ([209.24.3.172]) by marketing.healthoutcomes.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-58286U100L2S100V35) with SMTP id AAA332; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:26:04 -0700 Message-ID: <032101be9cc5$152fd820$ac0318d1@ssimarkfmt> From: nngo@velos.com (Nick Ngo) To: , References: <3f044e44.246b4bd1@aol.com> Subject: Re: Asians in the RAVE scene Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:16:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone, This is my observation of asians in the rave scene...sorry to waste the bandwith if you choose not to listen. I been raving since 1994 and back then there was hardly any asians at the raves. Most of the asians that were there were 'bananas'. It was fun, it was real, it was for the music and vibe, and not the drug (well jes a little). Nowaday, the majority of the asian 'ravers' are splurging from the gang communities. How do i know? Well has anyone ever gone to 1015 and see the influx of all the asians sitting on the stage and the back of the main room, those are all gangsters old, new, reform, what not. The only way I know this is that I went to high school with some of these thugs, are friends with some of these thugs, and have partied with some of these thugs. Hell I practically grew up and know possibly know each and everyone of them. They're there to do business and to be drugged in an environment which has become a haven to them. They know little about the music, the djs, the dances, or the glowstix...its mainly business, drugs, and the fact this wonder drug keeps them from fighting or shooting each other. This is where the major gangster asians hangout. At raves what we have are the 15-23 year old asians. The asian gangsters that you see there are mainly petty little kids who aren't old enough to go to 1015 and hang out with ther older brothers so they go to raves and slang their E. All mainly to their fellow asians. They go there to grope, to pick up, and to lay high off their arses trying to find the nearest person who can trip them out with glowsticks. For me, Im sick of all these e puddles. I cant get my dance, I cant seem to find a place to sit cuz asian one and his whole family are sprawled across the room. But what can I do but roam around dancing each step of the way to the ambiatic groove that feels room and possess my body. What my intentions are to talk to these asians and get them to go to hotels and E, so they can floor, grope and what not to their hearts content so I can have my dance floor back. This may be a pipe dream for now but I'm gonna make it into reality.... give me death or give me my dance floor!! Nick P.S. Say hi to me if you see me around...i'll email u my pictures when I get them scan. BTW to all you djs out there...can someone help me get the vinyl for song: Nightmare artist : brainbug. And the hookups on DJ equipment please email me privately I think a friend of mine's uncle owns a store that sells it wholesale. I know I can the mk3s for 450.00 cash. I just want some MK2s for alot cheaper price...like around 3 bills???? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 2:25 PM Subject: Re: Asians in the RAVE scene > HI nick.... about the asian invasion at raves.. asians are cool.. but is it > me.. or do they all sit on the floor? and in packs of like 30? just an > observation....sparkles From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 22:17:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1273 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 22:17:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 997 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 22:17:30 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 22:17:30 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com (8057) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iGGQa16142; Wed, 12 May 1999 17:39:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: <660f7c11.246b4ef4@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 17:39:00 EDT Subject: Re: Say What? To: chocolate976@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Now Mr. Chocolate976, have we forgot about the R in PLUR that we so blatantly blurted out? That wasn't very plurry of you! Tsk, tsk, tsk... In a message dated 5/12/99 2:31:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, chocolate976@hotmail.com writes: << This message is for all those clowns headed out to the first light... This party will not even be remotely as good as the one i am headed to. The Formula. Nuff said. PLUR and all that shiot. Junglist Mikey >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 22:18:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2800 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 22:18:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 2634 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 22:18:33 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 22:18:33 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-169.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.169]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA03949; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990512205304.006c0678@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:53:04 -0500 To: Megatron45@aol.com From: Nuku Subject: Re: Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HOMIES DON"T HAVE EMAIl...! your just a sellout just like me. Cuz we don't itimidate and stuff like.. "homies" who are out there pushing people around and generally intimidating other people at parties. This my friend is not harmless and directly affects others at the party. Now I am not saying this pertains to you or your friends but if you chose to represent yourself in this category you are going to be seen as a thug. I wasn't going to address this but I might as well, even though I would love to believe that this scene is all about everyone seeing everyone as one big happy raceless, genderless family. I know it isn't true, because every so often I get reminded that some people will have a hatred, dislike, of other things different tot heir world no matter what. The scenece isn't one big ole melting pot ..it's a toss salad with bunches and heaps of goodies in it. Navyblue Sellout Nuku At 05:36 PM 5/12/99 EDT, you wrote: >DONT FORGET >the big homie of them all....DJMEGATRON..boh boh boh boh... >the homie who makes the most noise in the jungle room, spins an eklectical >style of jungle, lives in richmond and even do ghetto ass house parties on >the mobil dj tip >too. well soon the homies will unite once and for all....all hail the >DECEPTICONS > >DJMEGATRON:mechasoul:GHETTOTEKROLLAZ > >In a message dated 5/12/99 5:18:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >chocolate976@hotmail.com writes: > ><< I am down as fuck, you couldnt be anyy more of a homie than i am. > > Junglist Mikey > > >From: "MooK<><" > >To: "Max McCauley" , "Supah Freaky Rabbit > >Jockeys" > >Subject: RE: "homies" in the rave scene. > >Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:06:59 -0700 > > > >Do I get an invite? I wanna play with the Homie's too. =D > > > >MooK<>< > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > > > Behalf Of Max McCauley > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 1:47 PM > > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > > Subject: "homies" in the rave scene. > > > > > > > > > > > > I swear to God: > > > > > > One day, I am either going to throw a house party somewhere and invite > >all > > > my extra-homie-ish friends AND a bunch of yall, or I am going to drag a > > > bunch of yall to some "homie" party or I am going to invite a battalion > >of > > > my "homie" friends to a small, intimate, positive party. > > > > > > Why? Because although there are idiot drugged out, piled up ravers that > > > are acting like idiots, and because there are thuggish gas face pushy > > > shovy "homie" idiots....the people I hang out with, are pretty much ALL > > > GOOD. And we all appreciate the same things....people around us who > >make > > > us feel good, music that speaks to our asses and feetsies, and a bit of > > > mind-expansion. > > > > > > (excluding the idiots on every side) WE ALL IN THE SAME GANG. > > > > > > 10-4, > > > duh, > > > max > > > > > > > >> > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 22:23:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8598 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 22:23:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 8411 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 22:23:28 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 22:23:28 -0000 Received: from Defreak1@aol.com (3700) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id lIVLa24272; Wed, 12 May 1999 18:20:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Defreak1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:20:07 EDT Subject: goodpeople/Re: recommendations for sound equipment rental in SF. To: npm@mail.netwiz.net CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk what up yo!!! active waht does that mean? do they sprout wings and fly around and stuff? :) well I have a couple speakers 4 rent if ya want? what is your budget? i'm pretty flexible in what i charge and if it's something cool like a wedding i'd be happy to hook ya up...i don't have a way to transport them tho so u'd have to arrange that and i may have to tap into the main electical panel to run my amps...standard 120 doesn't wokr wif em :( but it's no biggie as long as the space is coo wif it!! anyways i have a couple EAW's..so tell me what u think craig later From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 22:23:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9027 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 22:23:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 8735 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 22:23:40 -0000 Received: from inet16.us.oracle.com (192.86.155.100) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 22:23:40 -0000 Received: from usmail04 (usmail04.us.oracle.com [144.25.88.96]) by inet16.us.oracle.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA06522 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:23:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from us.oracle.com by usmail04 with ESMTP (SMI-8.6/37.9) id PAA29537; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:23:38 -0700 Message-ID: <3739FF1F.B77D4FBD@us.oracle.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:22:23 -0700 From: Joyce Lam Organization: Oracle Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: you guys are so nice!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey everyone! Thanks and a friendly Canadian hug to you all (I'm from Toronto! living in Berkeley) for helping me out with your suggestions on where to find good raves/rave music clubs for the college/recent grad crowd - i really appreciate it :p here's my other type of music list in no particular order: RAVEL - classical (french) DEPECHE MODE - Black Celebration and Some Great Reward SPAIN - Blue Moods of Spain PUMPKINS- mellon collie and inifinite sadness of course and that AMAZING new song played at their recent concert in san diego where my boyfriend and I had 2nd row CENTRE seats ha ha ha CAKE - first album ZAZIE - french pop singer PORTISHEAD - Dummy BJORK RADIOHEAD Johnny Mathis (Mummy's influence) see ya! joyce From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 22:23:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9091 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 22:23:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 8803 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 22:23:43 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 22:23:43 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512221707.330.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [171.215.146.152] by attach1; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:17:07 PDT Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:17:07 -0700 (PDT) From: DJ climaXXX Reply-To: DJclimaXXX@yahoo.com Subject: Re: happy Hardcore To: tball@aspenmg.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hmmm...I am actually quite partial to this particular genre of music, but I think it's greatest quality is FUN. I'm sorry people, but if you take yourself and the world so seriously that EVERYTHING has to be deep and intelligent and capital-intensive, you should seriously re-evaluate your life. I don't know....I can jsut sit down, be driving in my car, walking around Berkeley, listening to this stuff and it puts spring in my step, a smile on my face, and reminds me that even though life is pain, there are escapes. PLaces and things that don't require you constantly experience the pressures of existence, just remember them but be able to fucking emjoy yourself. Happy Hardcore to me is being able to throw your head back and LAUGH at teh world. Why do I love, and choose to spin/promote happy hardcore? Simple...it makes me smile and realize that there still is good out there in this cruel cruel world. DJ climaXXX ;^) === "But what is the speed of dark?" ---"Ball, Tera" wrote: > > I was just wondering what everyone's fascination with Happy Hardcore is! > It is impossible to dance to, it sounds like techno on crack. It makes > me feel sick! Who ever started this probably did on accident by > spinning his record too fast. If any one could give me one good reason > why they like this music I would much appreciate it! Thanx. Have a > bitchin' day. > Tera > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 22:25:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11940 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 22:25:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 11666 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 22:24:59 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 22:24:59 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-h3 (mmf32.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.102]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA11496; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905122224.PAA11496@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: gherbst@home.com From: "Rafie" Subject: RE: Another Quote relating to our scene to chew on.... comments? opinions? CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:28:23 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I don't know..I think that this seems to refer mainly to the traditional "repressed working class youth who is liberated at the rave every weekend and then returns to their week of drudgery" stereotype, which I guess is basically British. I don't think that in the US, going to a club every weekend and popping some pills is as mainstream as it is over there (yet). Although techno is still "rooted" in recreational (sub-)culture (raves) it is becoming more and more, if not already, a staple of mainstream life: every frat boy and his mom listens to Live 105, and they play "electronica" for freakin car commercials! Jeezus. I do however think that techno carries very positive connotations and sentiments for most people who first fell in love with it at raves. Just look at the number of people on this list who have expressed that it has changed their life in some way or other. But I doubt that it has the same impact on people who just regard it as background music for the afternoon commute. Rafie On Wed, 12 May 1999 12:06:50 -0700, gherbst@home.com wrote... >a few weeks ago I was reading an article by Jurgen Laarmann (head of >Frontpage / Sense) and thought it was really where I felt at least my >convictions lay.... > >(snip) > "A remarkable and deciding factor of this medium is the inehxaustable >energy which this music provides-not just on the dancefloor. At its best, >this energy leads to boundless optimism, which puts the recipient in a >position to make the best of every situation. Technologically speaking, >this means: analysing your situation, isolating the problem, defining your >goal and activiating all technological or other means in order to reach >your >goal-always however in harmony with the values of the movement. Techno >[talking about rave music, not techno specifically here] has turned into >the >soundtrack of our lives. > >Today Techno's greatest enemies are those who believe Techno to be firmly >rooted in recreational culture ("with a groove under your ass you can >forget your daily cage") Its true that even today some people believe that >"a handful of computer beats" are just "bread for the people" and attempt >to >use the music to temporarily forget their depressing situation in a >restriuctive society, they ought, however, to get it clear for themselves, >that these "imbecile techno-tunes" are an instrument of repression used by >the entertainment industry. Real techno was developed as a revolutionary >medium of liberation and freedom to counteract this repression.... The >question ought to be: how do we bridge the gap from techno music and >ideaology on the one had to techno religion and cultural technique on the >other hand? Who says the good feeling, the spirit and all the other factor >mentione above are limited to the dancefloor and cant be applied to "real >life" 24 hours a day? >(snip) > >chew chew > >Peace through Trance > >gEoff ;) > >-----Original Message----- >From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org] On >Behalf Of Jess ica >Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 12:00 PM >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Quote relating to our scene > >While reading one of his books, I ran across this quote from an >awesome environmentalist, it is about the environment, and our own >abuse of our land/world. I believe it can be true for some with >regards to our scene... > >" We abuse land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. >When we see the land as a community to which we belong, we may treat it >with love and respect" >=Aldo Leopold (1887-1948) > > > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 22:27:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14450 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 22:27:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 14379 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 22:27:24 -0000 Received: from mail10.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.138) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 22:27:24 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (ABD61CE3.ipt.aol.com [171.214.28.227]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05662; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <373A0076.E2602979@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:28:06 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: AlexG1029@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: about Paul*E*Wog's comments on the scene References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Doing something for this scene is not going to help me pass my drivers test... it's not going to get me a job... it's not going to help me get through college... I think everyone has too many personal problems that need to be fixed to worry about the above mainstream dance community. I am only one spark giving off an electrical impulse... I have ideas, but no will to do anything. Sorry... this scene may run on a vibe... but the US runs on money We live in the US... we don't live at the rave (unless you are crusty rusty or Codey). And I don't have any funds to start some SAVE THE RAVE project or ADOPT a ViBE seminar or Protect the BASS program... i have no funds... I've posted ideas and ideas and ideas. I am just hoping that some very nice promoter that can do anything he sets his mind to that lives in San Mateo will start something... or maybe some promoter that has a true spark for creativity in Santa Rosa... I dunno... I don't throw the parties... i only attend... I am just Supa Cand*e PiMP Kid Paul*E*Wog. I am loud. I am obnoxious. I stir up shit. That is what I do. This is my contribution to the scene. This is all I am capable of doing in my life right now... bitching and whining... i only bitch and whine because i care. =Paul*E*Wog AlexG1029@aol.com wrote: > > okey first of all i think i should introduce myself to Paul before proceedin > after akp2@duke.edu (MacBunny) has described u i think we've met before > were u at Kip's birthday party a few weeks ago? i was the tall guy with blond > hair wearin a blue adidas sweatshirt....i think uve introduced urself to me > but i didnt think that u were the same Paul....am i right? > okey now that thats clear ill proceed > i agree with u on some issues like that the scene is on the low right now BUT > u have to admit that compared to everythin else it is still wonderful > all the newbies comin in right now fall in love with it the same way as u did > when u first started goin > they dont know anythin better then what it is now and it still swallows them > with its beauty > no matter what all those bad things u talk about are u still gotta admit that > the scene is beautiful > and im gonna disagree with u again on the "u/we" issue > who are WE? if everybody will keep sayin "we have to do somethin about the > scene" nothin will EVER get done > there is now WE....its U who has to do it > only if everybody is responsible for THEMSELVES and their own trash and how > much drugs they take and not to vandalize the venues and surroundings ONLY > then the scene will start changin > so all of u who are readin this stop sittin on ur butts and thinkin "we gotta > do somethin" and start doin somethin URSELF....i know i am > im not askin u to look past the negativity, im sayin that everybody should > stop whinin about the old times, accept the current state of things and start > workin towards changin those things for the better > > PeAcE OuT > alEx =.) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 22:29:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16403 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 22:29:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 16360 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 22:28:56 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 22:28:56 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512222721.6965.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [171.215.146.152] by web4; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:27:21 PDT Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:27:21 -0700 (PDT) From: DJ climaXXX Reply-To: DJclimaXXX@yahoo.com Subject: RE: BSP: Thunderdome, June 25th, 1999 To: akbal_8@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Allrighty...all I have to say about that is I chose the name for sentimental reasons, all having to do with the location. I can't say mroe 'casue I don't want to give it away, but I guess all I can say is that we live in a very large world Eric, get used to things having more than one meaning. Hell, I bet someone that from whom you stole their name is pretty pissed if you want to use that logic. Just mah 2 cents.. DJ climaXXX ---Eric Vandenbroek wrote: > > Personally I have an issue with this party being called Thunderdome. When I > first heard about it I thought it was a full on hardcore party, but to may > dismay no. Of course not Happy Hardcore/Trance and Jungle. Thunderdome is > a trademark of the ID&T Dutch Gabber label. Check out www.thunderdome.com > So personally I think that this party shouldn't be called thunderdome to > avoid confusion among the true hardcore headz > > Me > > >From: "Rafie" > >To: DJclimaXXX@yahoo.com > >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org > >Subject: RE: BSP: Thunderdome, June 25th, 1999 > >Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:05:38 > > > >YEAAAAHAHAHAHHHHH!!!!! > >It's been a long long while, but finally after noise-restriction > >probationary status has been lifted...THE CRACK HOUSE IS OPEN!! > >Good Trance, good Happy Harcore, good Jungle all in one little > >crackhouse. And the only venue currently open that contains an outdoor > >chill space! > > > >YEAAEHAAHAHAHH!!! THUNDERDOME!!!! Wooooooh! > >Only the hardcore need apply...you know who you are. > > > >Rafie > >P.S. QUOTE OF THE DAY: > > "New York is really just like Prague sans the whimsy." > > (the talking dog said it on FAMILY GUY) > > *ROFL* > > > >On Tue, 11 May 1999 01:21:27 -0700 (PDT), > >DJclimaXXX@yahoo.com wrote... > > >climaXXX productions presents- > > >Thunderdome > > >June 25th, 1999 > > >(In Order of Appearence) > > >Trance: Heidi&Anakin (Rebel Sound Alliance), DJ D (T&J Factory), > > >Bryan Lee(GlobalEnergyMusik, SF/LA), DJ Eyal (GlobalEnergyMusik, > > >Fragrant, Phatt Phunk Records, LA), Happy Kid Ian (Happy Kids), DJ 725 > > >(Kuang Mark, XI) > > >Happycore&Jungle-Nebula (climaXXX), > > >Simon Apex(AlphaMagicRecordings, UK) _-VS-_ DJ Nimh (Happy4Beats, > > >Phoenix, AZ), DJ ansi (R.A.S.H., Redemption), DJ climaXXX > > >400 person capacity, underground East Bay (not ghetto!) location > > >w/free water, outdoor chillspace and more suprises. > > >$10 presales available soon...$12 @ THA' DOOR > > >5 1 0 . 7 2 6 . 1 3 0 3 > > >SUPPORT THE UNDERGROUND!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 22:30:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17416 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 22:30:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 17368 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 22:30:10 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 22:30:10 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (8051) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vOWZa16144 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 18:28:15 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <29f44cd2.246b5a7e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:28:14 EDT Subject: Name that tune! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Can anyone name the tune in the new McDonalds commercial. The one where the dj is spinning while eating an egg McMuffin? Just curious. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 22:31:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19165 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 22:31:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 19144 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 22:31:21 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 22:31:21 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA23023; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:31:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id WAA03453; Wed, 12 May 1999 22:28:38 GMT From: "MooK<><" To: "David Ramirez" , "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" Subject: RE: mex's in the scene Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:36:20 -0700 Message-ID: <004b01be9cc7$db3a7960$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 In-Reply-To: <19990512213415.72492.qmail@hotmail.com> Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of David Ramirez > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 2:34 PM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: re: asains in the scene > > > why yall trippin off races.. shit.. jus have a good time.. anyone got a > prob. wit mexicans in tha scene??.. I DO!!! Man all the ones I know are just too damn funny. I tell ya I can't help but have a good time with them, and that ain't cool. =P =) M<>< From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 22:32:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20727 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 22:32:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 20510 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 22:32:33 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 22:32:33 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA23044; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:32:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id WAA03534; Wed, 12 May 1999 22:29:53 GMT From: "MooK<><" To: "michael waldren" , "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" Subject: RE: Say What? Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:37:39 -0700 Message-ID: <004c01be9cc8$0a5f1bb0$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 In-Reply-To: <19990512213042.9042.qmail@hotmail.com> Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Clowns aren't gonna be allowed at First Light unless they are liscenced clowns. =D MooK<>< > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of michael waldren > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 2:31 PM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Say What? > > > This message is for all those clowns headed out to the first light... > This party will not even be remotely as good as the one i am headed to. > The Formula. Nuff said. PLUR and all that shiot. > > Junglist Mikey > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 22:33:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21232 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 22:33:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 21117 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 22:33:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aspen.sc-intl.com) (207.218.171.40) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 22:33:05 -0000 Received: by ASPEN with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <2086QJ15>; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:35:27 -0700 Message-ID: <756B30A53DCBD111BABC00A0C981D46372AD47@ASPEN> From: "Ball, Tera" To: "'SFRaves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: NRR: other music Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:35:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Wu-Tang: 36 chambers Beastie Boys: Paul's Boutique KRS1: Return of the Boom Bap, KRS1 Lauryn Hill: the mised. Genius/GZA: Liquid Swords Bjork: Post, Homogenic Dee-Lite: Dewdrops in the Garden Sublime: 40 oz to Freedom From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 22:43:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29761 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 22:43:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 29611 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 22:43:09 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 22:43:09 -0000 Received: from HppyXTC@aol.com (15551) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vGWRa05051 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 18:42:19 -0400 (EDT) From: HppyXTC@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:42:19 EDT Subject: Review of Gianni's Mixtape To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, since Gianni so kindly kicked me down with a copy of his mixtape, I thought the least I could do is review it and give him some free advertising! So... THIS TAPE KICKS ASS! It is his tape from Rebirth on 1/23/99. The whole tape is upbeat and very well put together. He constantly is trapping you in these wonderful build ups that keep going and going until you want to scream! And then they keep going! Parts of it you can hear the crowd screaming and that just adds to the excitement. The choices of tracks are great too. All of them are funky and happy tracks that keep your feet tapping. He manipulates each track into a wonderful mix with a style that is definetly his. All in all, it is a wonderful tape and I would recommend it to anyone! It definetly is one of my favorite tapes now! Thanks again Gianni! Love, Heather From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 22:46:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3609 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 22:46:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 3599 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 22:46:05 -0000 Received: from mail8.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.42) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 22:46:05 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (ABD61CE3.ipt.aol.com [171.214.28.227]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16212; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:46:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <373A050A.1498170@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:47:38 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: leslie.ayres@excite.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: "invite only parties"? References: <926531070.74.464@excite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I saw you tell those thugs to get back. It was so funny! hahahahahaha! Look at this lady! OMG! Ooooh Chris tore dat shiet up that night, too. No... you were very busy working alllll nite. I saw you work that line. You PiMP everyone in there... =Paul*E*Wog leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > > > Was that you dancing at Harmony Spring Time Flower Festival? Oh wait... > > no you were sitting on your ass all nite. Sorry. I forgot... > > actually paul, as i recall, i was working the outside line for five hours, > that's why i couldn't do what i had hoped, which was to introduce you to a > lot of the people on the list who have wanted to meet you. > > but working outside, though completely exhausting (i wrote numbers on the > hands of 425 people in line!), was hella fun and i got to meet lots of the > diverse ravers who make our world so interesting.... and even a few special > gangsta types who just didn't know what to make of the woman in the flower > crown and crazy pants who made stepped in front of them and made 'em go to > the back of the line after they cut in front of people who were a little > hesitant to speak up about it... > > all-in-all it was almost as fun as dancing for hours (though i did get about > an hour in to christopher lawrence before i completely collapsed) > > next time, though, i will try harder to get more people to meet you in > person, because i think the person you are in person is very different than > how you often appear to be in the cyberworld -- you are correct, in person > you are sweet, quiet and gentle.... someday i'll figure it all out. > > love, leslie > > _______________________________________________________ > Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 22:58:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10807 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 22:58:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 10552 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 22:58:13 -0000 Received: from web126.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.195) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 22:58:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512225906.6947.rocketmail@web126.yahoomail.com> Received: from [4.16.34.120] by web126.yahoomail.com; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:59:06 PDT Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:59:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Formula:Jungle Sky Tour To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It is a JUNGLIST DREAM. :) Well Part II for the few that made it to The Kung Fu Knowledge Tour. =Þ I lost my flyer, but Soul Sling and 187 will be there. And Billy Lane (aka B•Side) Fm Sac sill also be there. One can only guess that at some part of the Compound Records Crew will be there. Last work was it was going to be at the Maritime Hall. Well that's I know. If anyone know more post it up. :) *HUGZ* pat PS: Oh yea, I almost forgot to say...Who's going???? heehee Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 22:59:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12530 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 22:59:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 12519 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 22:59:37 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 22:59:37 -0000 Received: from HppyXTC@aol.com (15552) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJMZa24273 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 18:58:29 -0400 (EDT) From: HppyXTC@aol.com Message-ID: <8a577603.246b6196@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:58:30 EDT Subject: NRR: other music To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk PINK FLOYD! Led Zepplin Beastie Boys The Clash Violent Femmes And almost all DISCO! Love, Heather From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 23:05:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18568 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 23:05:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 18559 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 23:05:52 -0000 Received: from nettapp.nettwerk.com (HELO budd.nettwerk.com) (209.17.154.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 23:05:52 -0000 Received: from [216.101.68.178] (adsl-216-101-68-178.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [216.101.68.178]) by budd.nettwerk.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA25556; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:01:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: william@mailhost.nettwerk.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:08:12 -0800 To: "Rafie" From: william godoy Subject: RE: NRR: Other types of music Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Boo Radleys -Ride --Spiritualized ---Stone Roses ----The Smiths -----Fantastic Plastic Machine ------Zoo Bombs -------Happy Mondays --------Inspiral Carpets ---------Catherine Wheel ----------Verve -----------David Bowie ------------The Beatles -------------Gusgus ------------Swervedriver -----------The London Suede ----------Ocean Colour Scene ---------Oasis --------The Rolling Stones -------Black Grape ------St. Eteinne -----The Charlatans ----The Dandy Warhols ---Beautiful South --Bluetones -Pulp Farm You there are other to. peace William From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 23:07:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20976 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 23:07:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 20839 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 23:07:30 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 23:07:30 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (4420) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3MCPa24274 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 19:06:29 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <177ce2dc.246b6375@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 19:06:29 EDT Subject: FREEDOM!! To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi I was surfing the calendar and it said Freedom is going to be a one night party this year. Does that mean they moved it back to the racetrack?? I would be so excited if they did... I'm in campout mode but still.. from what I heard about that drive last year, I don't know if my car can take it..... hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 23:10:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24180 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 23:10:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 24172 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 23:10:19 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 23:10:19 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (3933) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rJDQa02446; Wed, 12 May 1999 19:04:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 19:04:22 EDT Subject: Re: Formula:Jungle Sky Tour To: montereypat@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/12/99 6:58:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,=20 montereypat@yahoo.com writes: << It is a JUNGLIST DREAM. :) Well Part II for the few that made it to The Kung Fu Knowledge Tour. =3D=DE =20 I lost my flyer, but Soul Sling and 187 will be there. And Billy Lane (aka B=95Side) Fm Sac sill also be there. =20 One can only guess that at some part of the Compound Records Crew will be there. =20 =20 Last work was it was going to be at the Maritime Hall. =20 Well that's I know. If anyone know more post it up. :) =20 *HUGZ* pat =20 PS: Oh yea, I almost forgot to say...Who's going???? heehee >> not i said the Decepticon. im gonna make some real money that nite...$250 fo= r=20 a lil gig on the mobil dj tip. plus cyberfest will be having the REAL DEAL=20 DREAM jungle line up for all u jungle headz who follow up on the UK massive.=20 to all u underground purist out there dont hate me because i want to see my=20 inspirations live in person. well thats it from me...oh and lets not talk=20 about the RAM recordings tour in sf. lets hope that isnt at a venue with a=20 shity sound system DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 23:10:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24910 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 23:10:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 24893 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 23:10:36 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 23:10:36 -0000 Received: from Kalika1196@aol.com (7991) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vBTMa03059 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 19:09:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Kalika1196@aol.com Message-ID: <45d0d003.246b6436@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 19:09:42 EDT Subject: survey... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Name: trisha Screen name: kalika1196 Age: 17 City: Novato (its in marin) Quote: dont let what other poeple think decide who you are. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 23:16:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 428 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 23:16:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 225 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 23:16:36 -0000 Received: from mail11.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.139) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 23:16:36 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (ABD61CE3.ipt.aol.com [171.214.28.227]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03150 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <373A0B9F.B105268E@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:15:43 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: Asians & Thugz @ Parties Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I would like to remind all you whipper snappers out there that a person is defined by his or her actions, not their looks. If they are dancing... who cares? If they are on the floor and are taking up space... kick em. Stop labeling someone by what they wear or the slant of their eyes. Everyone is a human and all humans can dance. =Paul*E*Wog From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 23:17:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1362 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 23:17:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 1354 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 23:17:25 -0000 Received: from shell.tsoft.com (root@198.144.192.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 23:17:25 -0000 Received: from dand.com (hurricane.dand.com [209.133.59.242]) by shell.tsoft.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA04567 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:17:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from royal [209.133.59.246] by dand.com (FTGate 2, 1, 2, 1); Wed, 12 May 99 16:02:54 -0700 From: "Joshua Goldberg" To: "SF raves" Subject: survey Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:14:14 -0700 Message-ID: <001301be9ccd$26c0a260$f63b85d1@royal.dand> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01BE9C92.7A64D7A0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BE9C92.7A64D7A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit name: Josh city: Novato (again, its in marin) Age:17 quote: PLUR ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BE9C92.7A64D7A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BE9C92.7A64D7A0-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 23:20:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3349 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 23:20:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 3307 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 23:19:59 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd95.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.159) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 23:19:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 52706 invoked by uid 0); 12 May 1999 23:20:30 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512232030.52705.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 153.34.164.241 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:20:30 PDT X-Originating-IP: [153.34.164.241] From: "ve anne" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR: survey Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:20:30 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk if i see any more of these surveys without an NRR: in the title, i am going to whack you over the head with my puter :P veanne From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 23:32:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11891 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 23:32:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 11881 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 23:32:12 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 23:32:11 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (4420) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3CJSa16142 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 19:30:20 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 19:30:10 EDT Subject: Re: First Light one year anniversary To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'll be at first light..> Look for me in mah blue butterfly dress.. I want to see everyone happy and dancing and responsible and loving life. You are all lucky to be a part of the beautiful scene we have created (or in most of our cases, helped to evolve) See you all there! hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 23:41:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15806 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 23:41:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 15797 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 23:41:16 -0000 Received: from wya-oe1.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 23:41:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 75790 invoked by uid 0); 12 May 1999 23:44:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512234405.75788.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.72.193.119 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:44:05 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.72.193.119] From: "David Ramirez" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Formula:Jungle Sky Tour Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:44:05 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i think i'mma go.. if i get a damn ride.. here da tha flyer if anyone wanna see it.. http://homepages.go.com/~pokemonmaster11/formula.jpg david.. ----Original Message Follows---- From: Patrick Seaton To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Formula:Jungle Sky Tour Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:59:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From sfraves-owner-raver_hp Wed May 12 15:58:46 1999 Received: from [209.133.83.16] by hotmail.com (1.5) with SMTP id MHotMailB90352A600FAD1B9832DD185531012860; Wed May 12 15:58:46 1999 Received: (qmail 10807 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 22:58:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 10552 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 22:58:13 -0000 Received: from web126.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.195) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 22:58:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512225906.6947.rocketmail@web126.yahoomail.com> Received: from [4.16.34.120] by web126.yahoomail.com; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:59:06 PDT Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It is a JUNGLIST DREAM. :) Well Part II for the few that made it to The Kung Fu Knowledge Tour. =Þ I lost my flyer, but Soul Sling and 187 will be there. And Billy Lane (aka B•Side) Fm Sac sill also be there. One can only guess that at some part of the Compound Records Crew will be there. Last work was it was going to be at the Maritime Hall. Well that's I know. If anyone know more post it up. :) *HUGZ* pat PS: Oh yea, I almost forgot to say...Who's going???? heehee Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 23:44:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17592 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 23:44:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 17569 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 23:44:38 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 23:44:38 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (4420) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3BJSa03060 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 19:42:17 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 19:42:17 EDT Subject: Inquiry: HAwaii?? To: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I finally got the dates for when I'll be in Hawaii and I was wondering if anyone knew someone that could find me party info for the weekends I'll be staying there. is Moki or anyone still on the list?? Can anyone help me out?? any info is greatly appreciated! thank yoU! hugsn'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 12 23:51:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23037 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 23:51:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 23027 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 23:51:36 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 23:51:36 -0000 Received: from SaMiENiTTy@aol.com (14396) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vOBOa10989; Wed, 12 May 1999 19:50:03 -0400 (EDT) From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Message-ID: <406cc6ca.246b6dab@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 19:50:03 EDT Subject: Re: Review of Gianni's Mixtape To: HppyXTC@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk girl...i have to agree with you this one! this tape bumped my mind!!!!!!!!!!! nice nice nice tape gianni...:) -Samantha In a message dated 5/12/99 3:43:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, HppyXTC@aol.com writes: > Well, since Gianni so kindly kicked me down with a copy of his mixtape, I > thought the least I could do is review it and give him some free advertising! > > So... > > THIS TAPE KICKS ASS! It is his tape from Rebirth on 1/23/99. The whole > tape > is upbeat and very well put together. He constantly is trapping you in > these > wonderful build ups that keep going and going until you want to scream! And > > then they keep going! Parts of it you can hear the crowd screaming and that > > just adds to the excitement. The choices of tracks are great too. All of > them are funky and happy tracks that keep your feet tapping. He manipulates > > each track into a wonderful mix with a style that is definetly his. > > All in all, it is a wonderful tape and I would recommend it to anyone! It > definetly is one of my favorite tapes now! Thanks again Gianni! > > Love, Heather From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 00:00:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1468 invoked by uid 6000); 12 May 1999 23:59:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 1457 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 23:59:57 -0000 Received: from f124.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 23:59:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 25621 invoked by uid 0); 12 May 1999 23:59:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512235929.25620.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 24.48.24.216 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:59:29 PDT X-Originating-IP: [24.48.24.216] From: "Greg Chin" To: nngo@velos.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Asians in the RAVE scene Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 19:59:29 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey Nick, During my last few visits to the San Fran area, I've noticed a greater number of asians at the parties. All I can say is - GREAT!- This scene was built on the prospect of all kinds of people going out to have a great time to music which knows no colour, age, race, sex, etc... I'm half Chinese myself, and I wish in Florida we'd have more of a mixture of people. Kudos to San Fran for such a beautiful scene with great people. Cheers, Greg "Stryke" Chin >From: nngo@velos.com (Nick Ngo) >To: >Subject: Asians in the RAVE scene >Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:56:41 -0700 > >Hello everyone, > >I just want to get everyone's opinion on the 'Asian Invasion' in the rave >scene within the past 6 months to a year. Do you like it? Do you want it >to change? Do you care? You can email me privately if you want. BTW, I am >asian but have an openmind about everything. So if you wanna gripe, flame, >or say racists things...I'll listen to you with my blindfolds on. > >Thanks, > >Nick From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 00:13:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8686 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 00:13:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 8672 invoked by uid 233); 13 May 1999 00:13:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 12758 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 20:22:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO osiris.vegasquick.com) (root@209.101.75.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 20:22:09 -0000 Received: from seker (seker.socalraves.com [209.101.75.16] (may be forged)) by osiris.vegasquick.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA22824; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:19:47 -0700 From: "Vegas Rick" To: "Bbong" , "Demian B Gentry" , "SFRaves" Subject: RE: LA Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:23:35 -0700 Message-ID: <000401be9cb5$4f8ff280$104b65d1@t2000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199905122003.NAA57908@scv4.apple.com> Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Socalraves is going strong. Send a message to scr-request@socal-raves.org with the message subscribe in the body of the message. Then be prepared for about 150 messages a day. And they already had the Asians at Raves thread about a month ago, and its a sore subject right now. :) --Vegas Rick People are like sausage, you can never be 100% sure of what's going on inside. > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of Bbong > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 1:05 PM > To: Demian B Gentry; SFRaves > Subject: Re: LA > > > 5/12/99 12:56 PM Demian B Gentry ugentd00@umail.ucsb.edu > > > > > Does anyone know of a list like this in LA? I love sfraves but I > >want some local venues. > > > > One Love > > > >--Demian a.k.a. Nino Slim > > > > > > I think LA Raves got blasted, due to people flaming each other :) > > http://hyperreal.org/raves/sd/home.html > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 00:13:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9067 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 00:13:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 8939 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 00:13:46 -0000 Received: from spins.jungle.at.nudebars.com (qmailr@207.239.93.103) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 00:13:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 23091 invoked by uid 1038); 13 May 1999 00:13:46 -0000 Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:13:46 -0400 (EDT) From: To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: looking for Chad from Splank... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk the dude throwing the formula.... anyone know how to get ahold of him? please let me know. 10-4, duh, max mkII From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 00:13:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9160 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 00:13:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 9058 invoked by uid 233); 13 May 1999 00:13:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 13061 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 20:23:11 -0000 Received: from media.m-a-g.net (HELO m-a-g.net) (root@209.0.104.76) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 20:23:11 -0000 Received: from mohan ([206.159.198.62]) by m-a-g.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA24939; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:20:31 GMT From: "Mohan Veloo" To: "Nick Ngo" , Subject: RE: Asians in the RAVE scene Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:21:47 -0700 Message-ID: <000a01be9cb5$0f6d7d80$4e14a8c0@altro.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01BE9C7A.630EA580" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 In-Reply-To: <01b401be9cb1$8e3c1800$ac0318d1@ssimarkfmt> Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BE9C7A.630EA580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What 'Asian Invasion'? Three of the 6 partners of Funky Tekno Tribe are Asian. We've been around for 6 - 7 years... Actually when I really think about it... the six of us are Black, Filipino, Chinese, Indian (Eastern Indian), Latino and White... all colors... ;) Mohan (Indian) Funky Tekno Tribe -----Original Message----- From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On Behalf Of Nick Ngo Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 12:57 PM To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Asians in the RAVE scene Hello everyone, I just want to get everyone's opinion on the 'Asian Invasion' in the rave scene within the past 6 months to a year. Do you like it? Do you want it to change? Do you care? You can email me privately if you want. BTW, I am asian but have an openmind about everything. So if you wanna gripe, flame, or say racists things...I'll listen to you with my blindfolds on. 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What=20 'Asian Invasion'? Three of the 6 partners of Funky Tekno Tribe are = Asian. We've=20 been around for 6 - 7 years... Actually when I really think about it... = the six=20 of us are Black, Filipino, Chinese, Indian (Eastern Indian), Latino and = White...=20 all colors... ;)
 
Mohan=20 (Indian)
Funky=20 Tekno Tribe
 
 
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From: = sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org=20 [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On Behalf Of Nick=20 Ngo
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 12:57 PM
To:=20 sfraves@hyperreal.org
Subject: Asians in the RAVE=20 scene

Hello everyone,
 
I just want to get everyone's = opinion on the=20 'Asian Invasion' in the rave scene within the past 6 months to a = year. =20 Do you like it?  Do you want it to change?  Do you = care? You=20 can email me privately if you want.  BTW, I am asian but have an = openmind=20 about everything.  So if you wanna gripe, flame, or say racists=20 things...I'll listen to you with my blindfolds on.
 
Thanks,
 
Nick
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BE9C7A.630EA580-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 00:33:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23518 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 00:33:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 23508 invoked by uid 233); 13 May 1999 00:33:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 7263 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 22:22:59 -0000 Received: from cloudfactory.org (HELO stratus.cloudfactory.org) (kati@205.179.129.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 May 1999 22:22:59 -0000 Received: from localhost (kati@localhost) by stratus.cloudfactory.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA07395; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:24:04 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:24:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Kati Fleming To: Nick Ngo cc: Macias20@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Asians in the RAVE scene In-Reply-To: <032101be9cc5$152fd820$ac0318d1@ssimarkfmt> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You are disgusting. Blech. On Wed, 12 May 1999, Nick Ngo wrote: > Hello everyone, > > This is my observation of asians in the rave scene...sorry to waste the > bandwith if you choose not to listen. I been raving since 1994 and back > then there was hardly any asians at the raves. Most of the asians that were > there were 'bananas'. It was fun, it was real, it was for the music and > vibe, and not the drug (well jes a little). Nowaday, the majority of the > asian 'ravers' are splurging from the gang communities. How do i know? > Well has anyone ever gone to 1015 and see the influx of all the asians > sitting on the stage and the back of the main room, those are all gangsters > old, new, reform, what not. The only way I know this is that I went to high > school with some of these thugs, are friends with some of these thugs, and > have partied with some of these thugs. Hell I practically grew up and know > possibly know each and everyone of them. They're there to do business and to > be drugged in an environment which has become a haven to them. They know > little about the music, the djs, the dances, or the glowstix...its mainly > business, drugs, and the fact this wonder drug keeps them from fighting or > shooting each other. This is where the major gangster asians hangout. > > At raves what we have are the 15-23 year old asians. The asian gangsters > that you see there are mainly petty little kids who aren't old enough to go > to 1015 and hang out with ther older brothers so they go to raves and slang > their E. All mainly to their fellow asians. They go there to grope, to > pick up, and to lay high off their arses trying to find the nearest person > who can trip them out with glowsticks. > > For me, Im sick of all these e puddles. I cant get my dance, I cant seem to > find a place to sit cuz asian one and his whole family are sprawled across > the room. But what can I do but roam around dancing each step of the way to > the ambiatic groove that feels room and possess my body. What my intentions > are to talk to these asians and get them to go to hotels and E, so they can > floor, grope and what not to their hearts content so I can have my dance > floor back. This may be a pipe dream for now but I'm gonna make it into > reality.... > > give me death or give me my dance floor!! > > Nick > > P.S. > > Say hi to me if you see me around...i'll email u my pictures when I get them > scan. BTW to all you djs out there...can someone help me get the vinyl for > song: Nightmare artist : brainbug. And the hookups on DJ equipment please > email me privately I think a friend of mine's uncle owns a store that sells > it wholesale. I know I can the mk3s for 450.00 cash. I just want some MK2s > for alot cheaper price...like around 3 bills???? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 2:25 PM > Subject: Re: Asians in the RAVE scene > > > > HI nick.... about the asian invasion at raves.. asians are cool.. but is > it > > me.. or do they all sit on the floor? and in packs of like 30? just an > > observation....sparkles > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 00:39:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27824 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 00:39:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 27632 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 00:38:58 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 00:38:58 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA30915; Wed, 12 May 1999 17:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990512174349.00811620@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 17:43:49 -0700 To: dadope@juno.com From: Carly Bourne Subject: Re: happy Hardcore Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <19990512.142508.-30765.2.DaDope@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm with you Theresa... sometimes I am just in the mood for some hardcore beats and an infectious melody with those great sing-along lyrics. I hate to admit it, but I love that song "Shooting Star" on the next generation label. It's so happy. Ack... but then there's those days when only jungle or trance will do. To each their own. Love, Carly At 02:04 PM 5/12/99 -0700, you wrote: >I love Happy Hardcore. It is the cheesiest music in the world, but I love >it cause it's sentimental. I like fast, hard beats, and i get plenty of >em in Happy Hardcore. It's realy the only type of rave music that >consistently has a lyric, and even tho the lyrics are cheesy they have >really deep e meaning, and I guess it's just kinda fun to sing along. >Don't get me wrong, that shit can get really annoying, but a lot of times >I'm in the mood for it. > >Peace, >Theresa > >On Tue, 11 May 1999 16:39:29 -0700 "Ball, Tera" >writes: >>I was just wondering what everyone's fascination with Happy Hardcore >>is! >>It is impossible to dance to, it sounds like techno on crack. It >>makes >>me feel sick! Who ever started this probably did on accident by >>spinning his record too fast. If any one could give me one good >>reason >>why they like this music I would much appreciate it! Thanx. Have a >>bitchin' day. >>Tera >> > >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 00:53:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6680 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 00:53:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 6671 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 00:53:24 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 00:53:24 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (401) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHZNa16142 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 20:51:02 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:51:02 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: Other types of music To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk in no particular order: -bjork -portishead -incubus -hed pe -suicide machines -sublime -pharcyde aaahhhh!!!! so many to chose from!!!!! alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 00:54:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7543 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 00:54:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 7502 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 00:54:21 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 00:54:21 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA14158; Wed, 12 May 1999 17:53:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905130053.RAA14158@mail.netwiz.net> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, groovi-music@netwiz.net Subject: Re: Subject: "DJ Dado" (was Re: tune in KUSF 90.3 right now) In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 11 May 1999 01:10:35 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 17:53:14 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk If anybody is interested, they now have info and real-audio of DJ Dado's performance on Thump radio. http://www.thump-radio.com/html/body_dado.html http://www.sfrecords.com/catalog/ra/thump_radio_may_9th.ram PS: lots of other raw real audio files in here: http://www.sfrecords.com/catalog/ra/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 01:02:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11931 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 01:02:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 11918 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 01:02:44 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 01:02:44 -0000 Received: from SpinDazE@aol.com (7810) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vRWZa26070 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 21:01:31 -0400 (EDT) From: SpinDazE@aol.com Message-ID: <42ae2bf4.246b7e71@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 21:01:37 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: Other types of music To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Mine: Bjork Cibo Matto Billy Bragg Ani D'Franco Toots and the Maytals Dj Spooky AFI Let's go Bowling Santana Bob Marley Pennywise Sinatra Louie Armstrong Beatles . . . . AND IT GOES ON & ON & ON From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 01:05:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13599 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 01:05:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 13565 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 01:05:23 -0000 Received: from seidc.sei.com (198.202.174.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 01:05:23 -0000 Received: from sei.com (ntws18.sei.com [198.202.174.85]) by seidc.sei.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA23283 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 18:04:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <373A25DB.C9C2F4A1@sei.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:07:39 -0700 From: Martin Randall Organization: SEI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Other types of music References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk - gamelan music (yeah...) - david sylvian - gong (tu veux un camembert?) - joy division - grateful dead - early/renaissance music - bjork - laurie anderson i guess i'm just weird..... - martin From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 01:20:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21262 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 01:20:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 21247 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 01:20:41 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 01:20:41 -0000 Received: from Taiida@aol.com (579) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iWBa005662; Wed, 12 May 1999 20:54:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Taiida@aol.com Message-ID: <406de98d.246b7cc1@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:54:25 EDT Subject: Re: Asians in the RAVE scene To: nngo@velos.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ya know what's funny about the "Asian Invasion," is that that's the same phrase T.G.I. Fridays uses on Thursday nights because almost everybody who goes in there are asians. I don't really care that much of how many races we have in any scene. I say the more the better because Me, being a Japanese Cowgirl goes to all the Country Events, Rodeos, Country Dance clubs and stuff are so used to the White scene in Country. Maybe that's why I've only dated White guys, but I am starting to see a lot of cute Asians out there. Just like to ad also that I finally met a Japanese Cowboy that I REALLY, REALLY Like. Both of us love country, both japanese, and both never dated a japanese person before. That's my thought!! Love ya'll, C-Ya at First Light Tami (Japanese Cowgirl Raver) :-) << I just want to get everyone's opinion on the 'Asian Invasion' in the rave scene within the past 6 months to a year. Do you like it? Do you want it to change? Do you care? You can email me privately if you want. BTW, I am asian but have an openmind about everything. So if you wanna gripe, flame, or say racists things...I'll listen to you with my blindfolds on. >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 01:29:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25904 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 01:29:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 25883 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 01:29:00 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 01:29:00 -0000 Received: from Kitana3737@aol.com (7804) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iIQLa04194; Wed, 12 May 1999 21:04:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Kitana3737@aol.com Message-ID: <360443c4.246b7f25@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 21:04:37 EDT Subject: Re: Asians in the RAVE scene To: BBoiBreks@aol.com, poeie@hotmail.com, nngo@velos.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/12/99 5:24:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, BBoiBreks@AOL.com writes: << While we're at it, why don't we just tel evryone that due to asian traditions, one must always bring moon cakes to asian promoters in order to bode good luck; and when one dances to an asian jungle dj, one must take of their shoes in order not to offend the speaker god, oh, and on the lunar new year, always carry around red envelops stuffed with an even number of dollars to give to asian strangers in order not to get your assed kickedd Sure asians are pretty busted, and they may short as hell too, but that's no reason to bitch about them. Don't hate them cuz they think that they're the shit, hate them cuz they're smarter than you. = ) the whitewashed vietnamese poser bboibreks >> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OH MY GAWD. sorry.. oh my... hOoooOo!! hahahaha LoL. sorry that made me laugh SOoOOoOoo hard... but bboibreks i think you forgot the traditional bow three times to the dj/god so they look favorably upon you and play your favorite track. hehehehe lol :) you just made my day... man i was laughing *so* hard.. anyhow. :) adiOs! muchlove, ~*MiCheLLe*~ the crazy asian lady that loves neither math nor science *gasp* and actually gets the A`s in english. *double gasp* and neither white washed nor "AP-KP-chinkprided" out :) just normal thank you very much. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 01:32:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28108 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 01:32:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 28000 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 01:32:46 -0000 Received: from law2-f95.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.95) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 01:32:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 69545 invoked by uid 0); 13 May 1999 01:32:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513013219.69544.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.100.194.65 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 May 1999 18:32:18 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.100.194.65] From: "Kriss *" To: ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: thoughts from kriss, was re: Skills Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:32:18 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >* I want another Progress @ Civic Center Plaza!! >Thank you. > >Rafie i know this is a few days late, but hell yeah i want another progress, too!!! that was one of the most beautiful parties ever! so many different types of people groovin to the awesome beats in the sunny city. my email access has been *severely* limited these past few weeks, so i'm sorry i haven't had time to respond to much lately...like the state of the scene stuff. when i have time i will. in the meantime, i have been thinking a lot about a close friend of mine, whose time on this earth is very limited. she has cancer, and instead of letting it get her down, she's trying to live life to its fullest. thank you to all of you who shared in a special day last saturday, at the skills party in golden gate park. it was a wonderful day for her. extra special thanks to mars for his song and dedication. appreciate the people you have in your life. you never know when they may leave you. to all of you who have touched my life in some way, sharing fun times, great music, hugs & smiles...thank you. you are wonderful. =) with love, kriss =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 01:33:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29143 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 01:33:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 29130 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 01:33:31 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 01:33:31 -0000 Received: from BryanLee21@aol.com (8029) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vMMUa09695 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 21:30:52 -0400 (EDT) From: BryanLee21@aol.com Message-ID: <21b9a61f.246b854b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 21:30:51 EDT Subject: BSP Bryan Lee in San Diego To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey folks, Im travelling to san diego this weekend to play @ LOVEBOMB. Djs are: Supa Dj Dmitry (Deee-Lite/Waxtrax NY), Bryan Lee (Global Energy Musik Sf), Sotero (Hallucinaton), Jon Williams (Organized Noise SF), Merlyn (Industry Records/Sunsonic), David X (Elevator), Vector Tribe (Global Energy Musik / Astralwerks LA), If any of you are travelling to SD this weekend you should check it out. The party is on saturday and the info line number is 619.685.7676. I hope to see some of you there. If not..you can catch me @ Bigger 99 in LA on the 29th. Peace Bryan Lee Global Energy Musik From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 01:36:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3775 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 01:36:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 3626 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 01:36:38 -0000 Received: from shell.tsoft.com (root@198.144.192.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 01:36:38 -0000 Received: from dand.com (hurricane.dand.com [209.133.59.242]) by shell.tsoft.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA21093 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 18:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from royal [209.133.59.246] by dand.com (FTGate 2, 1, 2, 1); Wed, 12 May 99 18:22:12 -0700 From: "Joshua Goldberg" To: "SF raves" Subject: DJ Chris Lee Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:33:31 -0700 Message-ID: <001d01be9ce0$9c0c4610$f63b85d1@royal.dand> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01BE9CA5.EFB0A260" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01BE9CA5.EFB0A260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit anyone ever hear of a so-cal DJ named Chris Lee. Is he still in the scene? Hugs and Lollipops, Josh ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01BE9CA5.EFB0A260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
anyone=20 ever hear of a so-cal DJ named Chris Lee.  Is he still in the=20 scene?
Hugs=20 and Lollipops,
Josh
------=_NextPart_000_001E_01BE9CA5.EFB0A260-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 01:40:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7611 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 01:40:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 7603 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 01:40:50 -0000 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (140.142.32.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 01:40:50 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id SAA04356 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 18:40:49 -0700 Message-ID: <002401be9ce1$b9416d40$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: Subject: Tower Records for Dunderheads Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:41:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Check this out, an article called "Electronica for Dunderheads" http://www.towerrecords.com/pulse/99/may/electronica/index.html ROTFLMAO, Alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- She wants a good life, No man to cause her pain and strife. -=- Cocoa Tea From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 01:41:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9522 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 01:41:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 9507 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 01:41:53 -0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 01:41:53 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.80] (congo-80.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.80]) by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA29349 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 18:41:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: echo@mail.wenet.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 18:42:10 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: je Subject: BSP: who is Adam X? Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi. A Blatent Adam X Promotion for y'all. Adam X: Sonic Groove, NY "For over 10 years Adam X has remained steadfast in his technotic efforts to interpret the future - our future. Beginning as a graffiti artist working deep in the heart of Brooklyn, Adam, along with his brother Frankie Bones and friend Heather Heart, first introduced the rave underground to America ... America's first underground techno parties, in abandoned warehouses or on deserted lots, STORMraves introduced a new type of party to a new generation of kids and opened them up to a whole new world of music. Beginning in 1991 with recordings for labels like Fabulous, Direct Drive, Drop Bass, Peacefrong, Scandinaviea and Sonic Groove Records, Adam has amassed a devastating catalogue, pushing Brooklyn techno into the millenium with explorations into adrenaline, ecstasy, and darkness. His DJ gigs around the world are legendary: aggressive and euphoric...." >From notes on the CD: ADAM X WaxTrax! MasterMix Volume 2 Friday May 21 MAZE 415.263.6750 MAZE: TRIBAL TECHNO TRANCE life is a maze/life is amazing 415.263.6750 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 01:53:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15095 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 01:53:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 15084 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 01:52:58 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 01:52:58 -0000 Received: from CanContrl@aol.com (7984) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vWNLa13994; Wed, 12 May 1999 21:51:07 -0400 (EDT) From: CanContrl@aol.com Message-ID: <44428b7c.246b8a14@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 21:51:16 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: Other types of music To: SpinDazE@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk and what about Jon Tesh???...dont lie!!!...people have the right to know all the truth! << Mine: Bjork Cibo Matto Billy Bragg Ani D'Franco Toots and the Maytals Dj Spooky AFI Let's go Bowling Santana Bob Marley Pennywise Sinatra Louie Armstrong Beatles . . . . AND IT GOES ON & ON & ON >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 01:56:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16320 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 01:56:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 16311 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 01:56:10 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 01:56:10 -0000 Received: from Angel2290@aol.com (14398) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vBOOa20907 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 21:52:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Angel2290@aol.com Message-ID: <43c56487.246b8a65@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 21:52:37 EDT Subject: F8 campout =almost summer To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 52 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hope everyone is having a groovy week. it is wednesday, which means tomorrow's thursday- and then friday (yay) you know we all live for the weekend. i am curious as to whether or not any one has any info on the upcoming (well, a month or so) F8 campout. i really wanna go and am wondering who will be spinning there, where it will be (mendocino again?) and all other logistics. the calander has nothing, and i haven't seen or heard much about it, other than that it's happening. anyone have answers? love and hugs and stuff, and anxious for summer, jenny From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 01:57:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17171 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 01:57:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 17151 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 01:57:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO osiris.vegasquick.com) (root@209.101.75.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 01:57:15 -0000 Received: from seker (seker.socalraves.com [209.101.75.16] (may be forged)) by osiris.vegasquick.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA24389; Wed, 12 May 1999 17:55:41 -0700 From: "Vegas Rick" To: "Joshua Goldberg" , "SF raves" Subject: RE: DJ Chris Lee Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:59:26 -0700 Message-ID: <000801be9ce4$3acad340$104b65d1@t2000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01BE9CA9.8E6BFB40" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-reply-to: <001d01be9ce0$9c0c4610$f63b85d1@royal.dand> Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BE9CA9.8E6BFB40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think he either died from his intense drug addiction or moved to the crackhouse for easier access. I talk regularly to DJ's that used to be on his label (Generic) with him. And none of them know either. --Vegas Rick There is a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot. -----Original Message----- From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On Behalf Of Joshua Goldberg Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 6:34 PM To: SF raves Subject: DJ Chris Lee anyone ever hear of a so-cal DJ named Chris Lee. Is he still in the scene? Hugs and Lollipops, Josh ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BE9CA9.8E6BFB40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I=20 think he either died from his intense drug addiction or moved to the = crackhouse=20 for easier access.
 
I talk=20 regularly to DJ's that used to be on his label (Generic) with him.  = And=20 none of them know either.

--Vegas Rick
There is a fine line between fishing = and just=20 standing on the shore like an idiot.  =

 
-----Original Message-----
From: = sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org=20 [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On Behalf Of Joshua=20 Goldberg
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 6:34 PM
To: = SF=20 raves
Subject: DJ Chris Lee

anyone ever hear of a so-cal DJ named Chris Lee.  Is he = still in=20 the scene?
Hugs=20 and Lollipops,
Josh
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BE9CA9.8E6BFB40-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 01:58:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18651 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 01:58:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 18493 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 01:58:48 -0000 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (140.142.32.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 01:58:48 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id SAA04956 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 18:58:46 -0700 Message-ID: <008601be9ce4$3b72ac00$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: Subject: Re: NRR: Other types of music Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:59:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i _swore_ i was not going to post on this thread, but seeing limited reprazentation, i had to throw down-----> i will go insane for anything having to do with reggae: roots rocksteady dancehall lover's rock nyabinghi drumming/chanting sing-jay stylee dub old-ass ska ragga soundsystem/dj sound clashes rub-a-dub maximum respect, alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- She wants a good life, No man to cause her pain and strife. -=- Cocoa Tea From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 02:19:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4244 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 02:19:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 4077 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 02:19:06 -0000 Received: from shell.tsoft.com (root@198.144.192.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 02:19:06 -0000 Received: from dand.com (hurricane.dand.com [209.133.59.242]) by shell.tsoft.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA08074 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 19:19:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from royal [209.133.59.246] by dand.com (FTGate 2, 1, 2, 1); Wed, 12 May 99 19:04:34 -0700 From: "Joshua Goldberg" To: "SF raves" Subject: Pic of DJ mystre at skills Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 19:15:54 -0700 Message-ID: <003101be9ce6$8765f610$f63b85d1@royal.dand> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0032_01BE9CAB.DB071E10" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01BE9CAB.DB071E10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here is a picture i took of Mystre at skills. I like it, do you? enjoy PLUR hugs and lollipops, Josh ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01BE9CAB.DB071E10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Here=20 is a picture i took of Mystre at skills.  I like it, do you?=20 enjoy
PLUR=20 hugs and lollipops,
Josh
------=_NextPart_000_0032_01BE9CAB.DB071E10-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 02:26:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11785 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 02:26:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 11772 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 02:26:11 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 02:26:11 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA16148; Wed, 12 May 1999 21:25:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mon-ca8-10.ix.netcom.com(206.216.188.74) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma016129; Wed May 12 21:25:18 1999 Message-ID: <3739CD9F.2975@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:51:11 +0000 From: Jennifer and Daniel Herron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Electric Joy Boy , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Short list Top 10 all time albums. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Electric Joy Boy wrote: > 12. Hildegard Von Bingen Canticles of Ecstasy Yeah Hildegard rocks!!! I can't believe someone else has heard of her! Truly a woman before her time. Jennifer aka Chrysallys From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 02:49:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25136 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 02:49:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 25114 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 02:49:26 -0000 Received: from web136.yahoomail.com (HELO web601.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.12) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 02:49:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513025224.6180.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.44.186.54] by web136.yahoomail.com; Wed, 12 May 1999 19:52:24 PDT Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 19:52:24 -0700 (PDT) From: NorthBay Collective Subject: Upcoming NBC events To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi SfRavers, NBC is planning some events for the near phuture that they would like to tell all of you about. First there is MAY 22. NBC presents SIMPLE this event will be free (however we are accepting donations for a generator that was stolen from us at Lunar Enlightenment 4.30.) This party will be outside and features DJ's Ornette (Logik) Ryan Wilbur Luke Jason please call 707.579.9688 for details and Sean Norton Also NBC on 6.5.99 will be bringing you a 4 room indoor party. This UG event will DJ's: Logik (NBC, Harmony) JWalker (NBC) Ryan Wilber (NBC, Harmonics) Russell G. (Dancehall Militia, NBC) r2witco (NBC, FBI, Dancehall Militia) Blake (NBC, FBI) Urn (NBC, Harmony) MAC (Purifide, Harmony) J-Bot (Purifide, Harmony) Joey Mazzola (Dance Nation, AM Crew) Micron (Viberation, NBC) Asterix & Cimino (ARM) Luke (NBC) Alex Van Dune (NBC) Rockwell (NBC) Zach Darling (Lightseed, NBC) Damian (Lightseed) Presales will be available next Monday @ 420 Reckords (Dope Store) 415.575.1580 & Harmonics DJ Supply 707.571.8747 Keep in mind that our last indoor event *Sparkle* was sold out at 11:30 pm. (Presales might be a good idea) Questions? E-mail: northbaycollective@yahoo.com Have a great weekend. smile. -nick Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 03:24:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12673 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 03:24:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 12611 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 03:24:07 -0000 Received: from web220.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.120) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 03:24:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513032459.19654.rocketmail@web220.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.24.165.245] by web220.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 12 May 1999 20:24:59 PDT Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:24:59 -0700 (PDT) From: tHe AcCoMplICe Subject: Sideburn Slims not a DJ! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: hak1@earthlink.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Why is it that there are so many Dj's that can't even mix, playing out at parties? Why are these Dj's being represented by agents?? Are these agents hard of hearing? How can a Dj that got caught stealing hundreds of dollars worth of records from Solid Grooves and STILL play out? How can a Dj who gets fired from T&J Factory for stealing, still play out?? Why are they STILL being represented by agents? Side Burn Slim is not a DJ folks. A liar, theif and loser, but definatly, NOT a DJ! What ever you do, don't hire him to play at your party, he might find something to steal! Oh, and to all the agents who represent Dj's like this, you are giving yourself, and any deserving Dj's that you represent, a very bad name! Stop with the poop!! Seriously...it stinks! chris Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 03:26:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13698 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 03:26:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 13679 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 03:26:30 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 03:26:30 -0000 Received: from BodhiInSF@aol.com (8019) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vYGPa17023 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 23:25:08 -0400 (EDT) From: BodhiInSF@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:25:15 EDT Subject: Hippies At Raves To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Speaking of the many diverse people who go to raves, what about hippies at raves? Always smilling, always willing to give a stranger hugs. We bring in the absolute acceptance of all people and love for everyone. If anyone has ever been to a rainbow gathering, or camped out with hippies, we always depart from each other with a great big hug, and with the words, "loving you brother/sister!" Nobody usualy steals (if it ever happens, it is so rare), and sharing is so routine. No judgement, no deliberate negative attitudes, and yes, most of us take baths, for christ's sake!, and were pretty tollerant and open about anybody and anything, as long as it's positive. Isn't this the type of values that are so needed in the rave scene? Ravers have alot to learn from hippies! Loving all of you! ---Bodhi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 03:31:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15415 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 03:31:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 15275 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 03:31:18 -0000 Received: from ns2.safemail.com (204.89.219.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 03:31:18 -0000 Received: from starbug (ip63.safemail.com [204.89.219.63]) by ns2.safemail.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA12137 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 20:31:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <014401be9cf1$4250de40$8c2417ac@starbug.eco.compuware.com> From: "Charlie" To: "sfraves" Subject: Re: Asians in the RAVE scene Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:32:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Personally, I think it is a good thing. People should do what they want, not what other people want them to do. After all it is a free country right?..right! Who died and made whoever God and said otherwise... The more the merrier.. After all, the rave scene is best seen like a mosaic. Different people united together in the same fashion to show the artwork of what we can accomplish. so the prophecy says ... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Peace, Love, Cowfish! Charlie charlie@safemail.com "Can't I just dream?!" -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -----Original Message----- From: Nick Ngo To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 1:57 PM Subject: Asians in the RAVE scene Hello everyone, I just want to get everyone's opinion on the 'Asian Invasion' in the rave scene within the past 6 months to a year. Do you like it? Do you want it to change? Do you care? You can email me privately if you want. BTW, I am asian but have an openmind about everything. So if you wanna gripe, flame, or say racists things...I'll listen to you with my blindfolds on. Thanks, Nick From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 03:32:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16387 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 03:32:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 16195 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 03:32:06 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 03:32:06 -0000 Received: from BodhiInSF@aol.com (8019) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iYMQa05050; Wed, 12 May 1999 23:05:49 -0400 (EDT) From: BodhiInSF@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:05:51 EDT Subject: Asians in the RAVE scene? Hell yeah!!!! To: nngo@velos.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk To tell you the truth, I love it! Why can't Asians go to raves? What's the big deal? Don't Asians have a right to dance? And are Asians just as desiring and able to rave and embrace the attitude of PLUR as anyone else? I love the Asian culture, and I think Asian boys are so beautiful!... Sorry for being so gay here, hehehe! Like Hispanics, like blacks, like whites, like hippies, like gays and straights, candy ravers, hip-hop ravers, old school ravers, new school ravers, we all contribute to one of the many pretty colors of the rainbow, and put all together, we make a phat, pretty rainbow, don't you think? =) Without Asians, like without hippies, candy ravers, gays and so forth, the rainbow would be missing one color, and it wouldn't be all that pretty! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 03:37:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18872 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 03:37:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 18807 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 03:36:57 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 03:36:57 -0000 Received: from BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com (7812) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vELCa10989 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 23:35:44 -0400 (EDT) From: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com Message-ID: <974e793d.246ba28e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:35:42 EDT Subject: Fifth Light To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk LOL That party should not be called First Light...that light was extinguished hella times before...It's Fifth Light! Change the name on the flyer! Wahha....well whatever all you kids going have a good time...I just thought I'd make that point. UMMM FORMULA is coming SOOO SOON! I'm going to explode! Who is going to be there to go psycho with me? When 187 spins track number 5 and number 2 off Quality Rolls it's all over... -=~*LaUrE@*~=- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 03:41:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21252 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 03:41:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 21241 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 03:41:16 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 03:41:16 -0000 Received: from CanContrl@aol.com (14406) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id yHCSa13994; Wed, 12 May 1999 23:39:52 -0400 (EDT) From: CanContrl@aol.com Message-ID: <99222719.246ba376@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:39:34 EDT Subject: Re: Pic of DJ mystre at skills To: jgoldberg@dand.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HAHAHAHHA.....im sorry i had to do that << Here is a picture i took of Mystre at skills. I like it, do you? enjoy PLUR hugs and lollipops, Josh >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 03:43:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22702 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 03:43:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 22576 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 03:43:18 -0000 Received: from firstclass.monterey.edu (HELO mail.monterey.edu) (198.189.5.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 03:43:18 -0000 Message-id: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:41:26 -0700 Subject: Re(2): Asians in the RAVE scene To: charlie@safemail.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu (Robert Delarosa) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I don't think this thread should go on anymore. Who gives a sh*t what culture comes to parties as long as they are bringing a positive vibe with them. Singling out groups to either praise or trash is ignorant. Sorry to sound like a grump, Bobbie...aQ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 03:46:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26001 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 03:46:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 25581 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 03:46:13 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 03:46:13 -0000 Received: from BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com (7812) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vWGHa10991 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 23:42:44 -0400 (EDT) From: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:42:39 EDT Subject: Fasians To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk WELL! If there were no asians in the scene what would all the FASIANS do? They would have to go hang out off 19th avenue to get some! DEFN of FASIAN: Any individual that happens to have an asian fetish, new vocab word created by Bitchanca...use it to make your daily conversations more interesting! =) What's up with that anyway? Asian women are not submissive! Get over that myth! We're bossy and demanding. -=~*LaUrE@*~=- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 03:57:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4286 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 03:57:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 4170 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 03:57:25 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 03:57:25 -0000 Received: from Laalkuchaa@aol.com (542) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vOWVa13994 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 23:56:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Laalkuchaa@aol.com Message-ID: <9418bb4b.246ba758@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:56:08 EDT Subject: Re: Trance and Jungle Factory is a crock of shit To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Warning to everyone. The Trance and Jungle Factory SUCKS! ! ! ! ! Save your money DON'T FUCKING GO THERE! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 04:15:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15149 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 04:15:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 15138 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 04:15:46 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 04:15:46 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com (8007) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vEIZa16141; Thu, 13 May 1999 00:14:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: <3a075646.246babbb@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 00:14:51 EDT Subject: Re: Trance and Jungle Factory is a crock of shit To: Laalkuchaa@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/12/99 8:58:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Laalkuchaa@aol.com writes: << Warning to everyone. The Trance and Jungle Factory SUCKS! ! ! ! ! Save your money DON'T FUCKING GO THERE! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! >> Woo-HOO!!!! Now that's what I like to see!!! Some good old-fashioned home-cooked SHIT TALKIN'!!! Now isn't that what it's about!! Let it roll boys and girls!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 04:43:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29050 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 04:43:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 29039 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 04:43:39 -0000 Received: from mail-gw5.pacbell.net (206.13.28.23) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 04:43:39 -0000 Received: from pacbell.net (ppp-209-79-196-181.scrm01.pacbell.net [209.79.196.181]) by mail-gw5.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with ESMTP id VAA10576 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 21:43:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3739AFDD.32359D10@pacbell.net> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:44:14 -0700 From: dr_XeNo Organization: KDVS DJ/USDAFS Genetics Lab Asst. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-PBI-NC404 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: Re: Trance and Jungle Factory is a crock of shit References: <3a075646.246babbb@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 'Lo there....ummm that's a lit'l random...at least mention why yer paranoid about the place... hi Thomas! ;-) Take care... Space201@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/12/99 8:58:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > Laalkuchaa@aol.com writes: > > << Warning to everyone. The Trance and Jungle Factory SUCKS! ! ! ! ! Save > your > money DON'T FUCKING GO THERE! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! >> > > Woo-HOO!!!! Now that's what I like to see!!! Some good old-fashioned > home-cooked SHIT TALKIN'!!! Now isn't that what it's about!! Let it roll boys > and girls!!! -- <<>> 90.3FM KDVS, Davis dr_XeNo@pacbell.net IM= drXeNo6 ICQ= #18463830 http://drxeno.cjb.net/ 90.3FM KDVS, Davis -----\/ Every Other Mon Nite, 10-Midnite: _*TeK-IndUced EuPHoriA*_ Listen On RealAudio and See Tha Calendar @ ------\/ http://tek.cjb.net/ <<<<<>>>>> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 05:13:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13865 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 05:13:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 13673 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 05:12:49 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 05:12:49 -0000 Received: from CanContrl@aol.com (8058) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNOSa17022; Thu, 13 May 1999 01:12:19 -0400 (EDT) From: CanContrl@aol.com Message-ID: <820e4ee6.246bb933@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 01:12:19 EDT Subject: Re: Trance and Jungle Factory is a crock of shit To: Laalkuchaa@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk uh a reason would help tough guy! << Warning to everyone. The Trance and Jungle Factory SUCKS! ! ! ! ! Save your money DON'T FUCKING GO THERE! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 05:15:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15536 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 05:15:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 15526 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 05:15:14 -0000 Received: from seidc.sei.com (198.202.174.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 05:15:14 -0000 Received: from water.sei.com (water.sei.com [198.202.174.76]) by seidc.sei.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA26092; Wed, 12 May 1999 22:14:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Martin Randall Received: (from kk@localhost) by water.sei.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA10707; Wed, 12 May 1999 22:14:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905130514.WAA10707@water.sei.com> Subject: Re: NRR: Short list Top 10 all time albums. To: whtrabt@ix.netcom.com (Jennifer and Daniel Herron) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:14:17 -0700 (PDT) Cc: digitalmindtraveler@angelfire.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <3739CD9F.2975@ix.netcom.com> from "Jennifer and Daniel Herron" at May 12, 99 06:51:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > > Electric Joy Boy wrote: > > > 12. Hildegard Von Bingen Canticles of Ecstasy > > Yeah Hildegard rocks!!! I can't believe someone else has heard of her! > Truly a woman before her time. > Jennifer aka Chrysallys > Sure - hasn't everybody?! Definitely up there on my list too! - Martin =] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 05:25:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23102 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 05:25:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 23080 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 05:25:22 -0000 Received: from law-f183.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.246) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 05:25:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 63415 invoked by uid 0); 13 May 1999 05:24:54 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513052454.63414.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 170.20.137.132 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 May 1999 22:24:54 PDT X-Originating-IP: [170.20.137.132] From: "Alknod !" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Upcoming NBC events Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:24:54 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey hey look close to the bottom of the DJ lineup! Hey it's me yea! Dj Van Dune. The first event that has me on a flyer wow! I'm sooo stoked right now, tho peeps probably won't come just to see me play, I'm in damn good company tho! Gonna be a fun night, get there early if ya wanna hear me spin, see ya at Simple too, guess whos providing the sound fer that one? hehe. Havin soo much fun! DJ Alex Van Dune >From: NorthBay Collective >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Upcoming NBC events >Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 19:52:24 -0700 (PDT) > >Hi SfRavers, > >NBC is planning some events for the near phuture that they would like >to tell all of you about. First there is MAY 22. NBC presents SIMPLE >this event will be free (however we are accepting donations for a >generator that was stolen from us at Lunar Enlightenment 4.30.) This >party will be outside and features DJ's > >Ornette (Logik) >Ryan Wilbur >Luke >Jason please call 707.579.9688 for details >and >Sean Norton > >Also NBC on 6.5.99 will be bringing you a 4 room indoor party. This UG >event will DJ's: > >Logik (NBC, Harmony) >JWalker (NBC) >Ryan Wilber (NBC, Harmonics) >Russell G. (Dancehall Militia, NBC) >r2witco (NBC, FBI, Dancehall Militia) >Blake (NBC, FBI) >Urn (NBC, Harmony) >MAC (Purifide, Harmony) >J-Bot (Purifide, Harmony) >Joey Mazzola (Dance Nation, AM Crew) >Micron (Viberation, NBC) >Asterix & Cimino (ARM) >Luke (NBC) >Alex Van Dune (NBC) >Rockwell (NBC) >Zach Darling (Lightseed, NBC) >Damian (Lightseed) > >Presales will be available next Monday @ > >420 Reckords (Dope Store) 415.575.1580 >& >Harmonics DJ Supply 707.571.8747 > >Keep in mind that our last indoor event *Sparkle* was sold out at 11:30 >pm. (Presales might be a good idea) > >Questions? > >E-mail: northbaycollective@yahoo.com > >Have a great weekend. > >smile. > >-nick > > > > > >Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 05:33:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25696 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 05:33:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 25686 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 05:33:19 -0000 Received: from law-f125.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.188) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 05:33:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 43155 invoked by uid 0); 13 May 1999 05:32:52 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513053252.43154.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 170.20.137.132 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 May 1999 22:32:52 PDT X-Originating-IP: [170.20.137.132] From: "Alknod !" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Trance and Jungle Factory is a crock of shit Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:32:52 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What the? I've bought some great stuff there why should I quit now? Besides the fact that I can only shop there on Saturdays cuz o my job other than that why? Thomas has given me some great deals before, prolly cuz when ever I go I end up dropping mad cash! So I guess the question is really why don't you want peeps goin there anymore? Uh, a long winded way of saying why? >From: Laalkuchaa@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: Trance and Jungle Factory is a crock of shit >Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:56:08 EDT > >Warning to everyone. The Trance and Jungle Factory SUCKS! ! ! ! ! Save >your >money DON'T FUCKING GO THERE! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 05:52:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1395 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 05:52:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 1386 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 05:52:36 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 05:52:36 -0000 Received: from ckc-114-97 (ckc-114-97.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.114.97]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA22516 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 22:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990512223556.009e4540@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: mjohan@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:37:20 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Matthew Johan Subject: Re: Trance and Jungle Factory is a crock of shit In-Reply-To: <9418bb4b.246ba758@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I checked past posts-- the person that posted this message was also responsible for posting a very tasteless joke about a week or two ago. Probably just looking for attention. At 11:56 PM 5/12/99 -0400, Laalkuchaa@aol.com wrote: >Warning to everyone. The Trance and Jungle Factory SUCKS! ! ! ! ! Save your >money DON'T FUCKING GO THERE! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 06:09:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8831 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 06:09:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 8730 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 06:09:26 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 06:09:26 -0000 Received: from Fiercefigs@aol.com (14441) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLVVa05051 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 02:08:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Fiercefigs@aol.com Message-ID: <6a3550c1.246bc66b@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 02:08:43 EDT Subject: (NRR)RIP TimBrauch To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Tim was one of the top ten skateboarders in the nation He traveled all over the World just returning from Spain and Germany Only to win hundreds of competitions all over the World* But it was not that will make Tim forever a legend here at least In SanJose It was his positive energetic energy that influenced and pushed tons of guys and gitls to reach there potential always a smile and always living life to it's fullist potential(and thats what it's fuckin all about!!;) Tim passed of a heart attack at 25 yrs old on Mothers Day If anyone knows anyone who would like to pay respects at Greer Park in Palo Alto there is a skate jam at 1:00 on Sat forever sadenned by another loss fiona From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 06:18:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13336 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 06:18:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 13195 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 06:18:13 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 06:18:13 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (14459) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vSXFa09694 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 02:17:27 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <187144bd.246bc877@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 02:17:27 EDT Subject: [nrr] one liner To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Q: Why was only bread and wine served at the Last Supper? A: It was a potluck, and only men were invited From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 06:44:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21503 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 06:44:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 21464 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 06:44:35 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 06:44:35 -0000 Received: from Fine19boy@aol.com (3934) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHCYa05050 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 02:43:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Fine19boy@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 02:43:25 EDT Subject: whats it? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i forfot it again and i lost my bookmarks whats the sfraves web adddress again? ~T From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 07:46:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15618 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 07:46:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 15603 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 07:46:52 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 07:46:52 -0000 Received: from WOO1121@aol.com (3701) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vSMPa27691 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 03:46:12 -0400 (EDT) From: WOO1121@aol.com Message-ID: <2ca8aed0.246bdd44@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 03:46:12 EDT Subject: Re: Asians in the RAVE scene To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/12/99 1:32:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, sherbear_21@yahoo.com writes: << I think anyone who enjoys raves, BELONGS at raves. It's not about who's race or ethnicity dominates the scene... >> oh except for gay people of course... No gay raves allowed!! i.e. if you are going to metropolis read this first couldn't resist... AmandaKungPow* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 07:55:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18618 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 07:55:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 18609 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 07:55:48 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 07:55:48 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-c2 (mmf11.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.81]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA28151; Thu, 13 May 1999 00:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905130755.AAA28151@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com From: "Rafie" Subject: RE: Fasians CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 00:57:59 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk "Fasian??" Pah-sha, whatevs. Who the hell is a fasian? I sho aint one. And speaking of domination/submission, could you perhaps shed some light on how that relationship between you and Bitchanca (a nickname I invented and now everyone uses, thankyou) works out exactly?? I mean, you are both "bossy and demanding" (what a nice way to put it) so like who is on top? Maybe you guys take turns? But Bitchanca is your lesbian sidekick so you probably go down on her more, huh. I'm so confused! Crazy carpet-munchers! Rafie On Wed, 12 May 1999 23:42:39 EDT, BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com wrote... >WELL! If there were no asians in the scene what would all the FASIANS do? >They would have to go hang out off 19th avenue to get some! > >DEFN of FASIAN: Any individual that happens to have an asian fetish, new >vocab word created by Bitchanca...use it to make your daily conversations >more interesting! =) > >What's up with that anyway? Asian women are not submissive! Get over that >myth! We're bossy and demanding. > >-=~*LaUrE@*~=- > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 07:57:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19379 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 07:57:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 19371 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 07:57:06 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 07:57:06 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-c2 (mmf11.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.81]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA31077; Thu, 13 May 1999 00:57:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905130757.AAA31077@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: Laalkuchaa@aol.com From: "Rafie" Subject: Re: Trance and Jungle Factory is a crock of shit CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 00:59:33 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Could you elaborate? Thanks Rafie P.S. if it is because of DJ drama, get over it... the words DJ and drama are one and the same On Wed, 12 May 1999 23:56:08 EDT, Laalkuchaa@aol.com wrote... >Warning to everyone. The Trance and Jungle Factory SUCKS! ! ! ! ! Save >your >money DON'T FUCKING GO THERE! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 08:09:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22746 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 08:09:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 22735 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 08:09:21 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 08:09:21 -0000 Received: from AlexG1029@aol.com (318) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vKMKa03058; Thu, 13 May 1999 04:08:17 -0400 (EDT) From: AlexG1029@aol.com Message-ID: <21bab01a.246be270@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 04:08:16 EDT Subject: "doin something for the scene" WAS: Paul*E*Wog's comments on the scene To: sfraves@hyperreal.org CC: goodvibe@geocities.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk im not askin anybody to invest some incredible amounts of money in makin this scene better: like Paul said thats the promoters job (althou some of em dont seem to care very much) what im talkin about is lookin out for urself let me ask u this: did u buy a bottle of water at the last party u went to? and when u finished it did u throw it on the floor instead of findin a trashcan? that is the kind of thing im talkin about when im sayin "do somethin for the scene" i hear everybody whinin about how dirty 2nd/jackson is....well guess what? its U who makes it dirty so unless u are doin somethin to improve things in this scene (check above if u still dont get what i mean by this) u have NO right to complain about anythin! and if u feel like u have too many problems to worry about the mainstream dance community....why be a part of it? PeAcE OuT alEx =.) In a message dated 5/12/99 3:27:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, goodvibe@geocities.com writes: << Doing something for this scene is not going to help me pass my drivers test... it's not going to get me a job... it's not going to help me get through college... I think everyone has too many personal problems that need to be fixed to worry about the above mainstream dance community. I am only one spark giving off an electrical impulse... I have ideas, but no will to do anything. Sorry... this scene may run on a vibe... but the US runs on money We live in the US... we don't live at the rave (unless you are crusty rusty or Codey). And I don't have any funds to start some SAVE THE RAVE project or ADOPT a ViBE seminar or Protect the BASS program... i have no funds... I've posted ideas and ideas and ideas. I am just hoping that some very nice promoter that can do anything he sets his mind to that lives in San Mateo will start something... or maybe some promoter that has a true spark for creativity in Santa Rosa... I dunno... I don't throw the parties... i only attend... I am just Supa Cand*e PiMP Kid Paul*E*Wog. I am loud. I am obnoxious. I stir up shit. That is what I do. This is my contribution to the scene. This is all I am capable of doing in my life right now... bitching and whining... i only bitch and whine because i care. >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 13:27:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8038 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 13:27:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 8026 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 13:27:26 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 13:27:26 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.205] (libya-205.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.205]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26631; Thu, 13 May 1999 06:25:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 06:47:15 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Thu) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello...today's quote is... Believe that life is worth living and your belief will create the fact. ---William James ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 14:59:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18381 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 14:59:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 18212 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 14:58:57 -0000 Received: from wya-oe17.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.82) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 14:58:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 12737 invoked by uid 0); 13 May 1999 15:01:45 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513150145.12736.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.188.193.178 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 May 1999 08:01:44 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.188.193.178] From: "sHaWn ." To: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com, SFraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Fifth Light Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 08:01:44 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I will be there right up jockin the decks when 1.8.7 comes on, shit i will be at the decks all night. I gotta make sure to bring my running shoes though running back room to room. Oh and be sure to give props to Youngblood and Squirt these are my boys from back south show them how the norCal Junglist can represent. > >LOL > >That party should not be called First Light...that light was extinguished >hella times before...It's Fifth Light! Change the name on the flyer! >Wahha....well whatever all you kids going have a good time...I just thought >I'd make that point. > >UMMM FORMULA is coming SOOO SOON! I'm going to explode! Who is going to be >there to go psycho with me? When 187 spins track number 5 and number 2 off >Quality Rolls it's all over... > >-=~*LaUrE@*~=- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 15:26:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15509 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 15:26:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 15466 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 15:26:04 -0000 Received: from web803.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.63) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 15:26:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513153142.25299.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web803.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 08:31:42 PDT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 08:31:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: oh gosh check out this RA To: SCiEnCe , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk If everybody hasnt already checked this out you should! Especially LTG Bukem,wtf??? ive only listen to it a million times by now... jess --- SCiEnCe wrote: > http://vixen.simplenet.com/dark/music.htm > > LTJ Bukem from '92, Hype from '94... > Reminds you of what it used to be. > > -Science > > > > > > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 15:42:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28717 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 15:42:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 28703 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 15:42:32 -0000 Received: from web115.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.88) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 15:42:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513154425.26206.rocketmail@web115.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.54.10] by web115.yahoomail.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 08:44:25 PDT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 08:44:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: NRR: VCRs and Y2K To: SF Ravers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk A little something I received from a friend back East. =Þ *HUGZ* pat VCRs and Y2K - Here is something I bet you hadn't thought would be an issue for Y2K. You won't be able to use the programmed recording feature. Do not throw away your VCR in the year 2000. Set it on 1972 because the days will be the same. Please pass this on as the manufacturer will not share this information. They will want you to buy a new one that is Y2K compliant. You will have 28 more years of recording pleasure. Neat to know, isn't it? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 16:05:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16240 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 16:05:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 16232 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 16:05:14 -0000 Received: from f31.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.42) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 16:05:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 21927 invoked by uid 0); 13 May 1999 16:04:48 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513160448.21926.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 May 1999 09:04:47 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com, SFraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Fifth Light Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 09:04:47 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey Laura, Well sorry that you did not have a good time at our parties? We tried our best to bring a quality underground party with decent sound,lighting,and DJ's Sorry that past events got busted that is why we are doing legal events cause we want everyone to be able to groove all night. If you don't like we we are trying to do and what we are about then don't attend our parties. But name calling and mudslinging is a waste of your's and everybody else's time. Be part of the solution not the problem. Peace, Macadio (FL collective) >From: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com >To: SFraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Fifth Light >Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:35:42 EDT > >LOL > >That party should not be called First Light...that light was extinguished >hella times before...It's Fifth Light! Change the name on the flyer! >Wahha....well whatever all you kids going have a good time...I just thought >I'd make that point. > >UMMM FORMULA is coming SOOO SOON! I'm going to explode! Who is going to be >there to go psycho with me? When 187 spins track number 5 and number 2 off >Quality Rolls it's all over... > >-=~*LaUrE@*~=- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 16:11:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18816 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 16:11:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 18808 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 16:11:30 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 16:11:30 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (573) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vCNQa13994 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:09:38 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <4444b3da.246c5342@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:09:38 EDT Subject: Permit Info To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello: Was wondering if anyone could break down the details of one time permits in SF for me. Id really appreciate it. Thanks in advance. Much peace and happiness, M Groove On From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 16:37:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6156 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 16:37:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 6143 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 16:37:37 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 16:37:37 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA03118 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 11:36:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mon-ca9-55.ix.netcom.com(206.216.188.183) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma003048; Thu May 13 11:36:02 1999 Message-ID: <373A9503.60B2@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 09:01:55 +0000 From: Jennifer and Daniel Herron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Other types of music Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok I had to contribute of course much below is just pure cheese but hell my family is from the midwest..I love cheese. *Elvis (I saw him in concert when I was 4..it's something I'll never forget) *REM *Danielle Dax *KLF *Neil Diamond (I was serious about the cheese!) *ABBA (As above) *Wyclef Jean *Julee Cruise *T-Rex *Orbital *Doors *My Life With the Thrill Kill Kult *Beethoven *Cab Calloway *Yma Sumac *David Bowie *Simon and Garfunkle *Aaron Copland *Angelo Baldementi *Dione Warwick *Helen Kane and so forth........ Jennifer aka Chrysallys From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 16:52:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14729 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 16:52:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 14721 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 16:52:45 -0000 Received: from netcom18.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.131) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 16:52:45 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom18.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id JAA12182; Thu, 13 May 1999 09:52:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 09:52:33 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Re: NRR: Other types of music To: E-Bumpers By the Bay In-Reply-To: <373A9503.60B2@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Okay, here we go on a journey into the funk: -Booker T. and the MG's -Lee Michaels -The Bar-Kays -George Clinton (and all his funky bands) -The Gap Band ("Jam to the mother!") -Quincy Jones (dude, i gotta call Q and get permission to remix the Sanford and Son theme!) -Isaac Hayes -anyone on Stax Records -can't forget Bootsy! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 17:38:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15745 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 17:38:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 15733 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 17:38:35 -0000 Received: from colo01-033.xoom.com (HELO www2.xoommail.com) (206.132.179.33) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 17:38:35 -0000 Received: (from service@localhost) by www2.xoommail.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22894; Thu, 13 May 1999 10:38:34 -0700 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 10:38:34 -0700 Message-Id: <199905131738.KAA22894@www2.xoommail.com> X-Loop: xoommail.com From: Matt -RED Organization: FCK Subject: Re: Hippies At Raves To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What type of raver are you talking about? Some ravers are PLUR and already do all that hugging. Some ravers are anti-plur or don't go by those "guidelines" at all and that's their take on things. What do we have to learn from you though? We know how to hug and be friendly... -Matthew BodhiInSF@aol.com wrote: > Speaking of the many diverse people who go to raves, what about hippies at > raves? Always smilling, always willing to give a stranger hugs. We bring in > the absolute acceptance of all people and love for everyone. If anyone has > ever been to a rainbow gathering, or camped out with hippies, we always > depart from each other with a great big hug, and with the words, "loving you > brother/sister!" Nobody usualy steals (if it ever happens, it is so rare), > and sharing is so routine. No judgement, no deliberate negative attitudes, > and yes, most of us take baths, for christ's sake!, and were pretty tollerant > and open about anybody and anything, as long as it's positive. Isn't this > the type of values that are so needed in the rave scene? Ravers have alot to > learn from hippies! > Loving all of you! ---Bodhi > Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occassion at http://greetings.xoom.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 17:39:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16716 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 17:39:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 16678 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 17:39:02 -0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 17:39:02 -0000 Received: from fish.hooked.net (byoung@fish.hooked.net [206.80.6.48]) by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA21083; Thu, 13 May 1999 10:38:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 10:38:58 -0700 (PDT) From: boing X-Sender: byoung@fish.hooked.net To: unclenoah cc: E-Bumpers By the Bay Subject: Re: NRR: Other types of music In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 13 May 1999, unclenoah wrote: > > Okay, here we go on a journey into the funk: > ... > -Quincy Jones (dude, i gotta call Q and get permission to remix the > Sanford and Son theme!) ... just thinking that tune cracks me up (sanford & son). *) clearing copyrights and all, i assume you (will) have it on wide release? care to do some PR for it? i'd love to hear it. b- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 17:40:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18347 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 17:40:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 18305 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 17:40:17 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 17:40:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513172320.12985.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.170.33.142] by web1; Thu, 13 May 1999 10:23:19 PDT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 10:23:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Joaqman Subject: Re: Trance and Jungle Factory is a crock of shit To: Matthew Johan , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yeah!!!! and besides this is joaqman and i work on saturdays @ the t & J factory. we don't just suck, we swallow ;) brevity & levity is the key to longevity, jonas ---Matthew Johan wrote: > > I checked past posts-- the person that posted this message was also > responsible for posting a very tasteless joke about a week or two ago. > Probably just looking for attention. > > > At 11:56 PM 5/12/99 -0400, Laalkuchaa@aol.com wrote: > >Warning to everyone. The Trance and Jungle Factory SUCKS! ! ! ! ! Save your > >money DON'T FUCKING GO THERE! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 17:49:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24725 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 17:49:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 24701 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 17:49:37 -0000 Received: from mail.healthoutcomes.com (HELO marketing.healthoutcomes.com) (209.24.3.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 17:49:37 -0000 Received: from nngo ([209.24.3.172]) by marketing.healthoutcomes.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-58286U100L2S100V35) with SMTP id AAA226; Thu, 13 May 1999 10:58:23 -0700 Message-ID: <023401be9d68$bda1a6c0$ac0318d1@ssimarkfmt> From: nngo@velos.com (Nick Ngo) To: "Joaqman" , "Matthew Johan" , References: <19990513172320.12985.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Subject: Re: Trance and Jungle Factory is a crock of shit Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 10:47:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Do you gargle as well????? Im kidding....bad taste...sorry, but couldnt help myself. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: Joaqman To: Matthew Johan ; Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 10:23 AM Subject: Re: Trance and Jungle Factory is a crock of shit > yeah!!!! and besides this is joaqman and i work on > saturdays @ the t & J factory. we don't just suck, > we swallow ;) > > brevity & levity is the key to longevity, > jonas > > > > > > ---Matthew Johan wrote: > > > > I checked past posts-- the person that posted this > message was also > > responsible for posting a very tasteless joke about > a week or two ago. > > Probably just looking for attention. > > > > > > At 11:56 PM 5/12/99 -0400, Laalkuchaa@aol.com wrote: > > >Warning to everyone. The Trance and Jungle > Factory SUCKS! ! ! ! ! Save your > > >money DON'T FUCKING GO THERE! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 18:09:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7997 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 18:08:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 7971 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 18:08:48 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 18:08:48 -0000 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.9.3/8.8.4) id LAA20148; Thu, 13 May 1999 11:08:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199905131808.LAA20148@atari.saturn5.com> Subject: Re: Trance and Jungle Factory is a crock of shit To: mjohan@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Matthew Johan) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 11:08:45 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990512223556.009e4540@uclink4.berkeley.edu> from "Matthew Johan" at May 12, 99 10:37:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Its thomas trouble... look at all this free publicity he is getting! ha... just kidding... -troy > > I checked past posts-- the person that posted this message was also > responsible for posting a very tasteless joke about a week or two ago. > Probably just looking for attention. > > > At 11:56 PM 5/12/99 -0400, Laalkuchaa@aol.com wrote: > >Warning to everyone. The Trance and Jungle Factory SUCKS! ! ! ! ! Save your > >money DON'T FUCKING GO THERE! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/Casey3.wav <- Casey Kasem in rare form From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 18:09:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8745 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 18:09:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 8734 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 18:09:31 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 18:09:31 -0000 Received: from Markis1012@aol.com (14403) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rNYCa10990; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:07:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Markis1012@aol.com Message-ID: <5968d12.246c6edb@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:07:23 EDT Subject: Sideburn Slims not a DJ! To: resourcerecords@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org CC: hak1@earthlink.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Okay. What's this about?!? Did Sideburn Slim really steal something from Trance & Jungle Factory?!? Damn... Please respond privately!! Markis & Naomi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 18:10:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9848 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 18:10:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 9839 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 18:10:23 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 18:10:23 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA03617; Thu, 13 May 1999 11:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id SAA02401; Thu, 13 May 1999 18:07:39 GMT From: "MooK<><" To: "Nick Ngo" , "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" Subject: RE: Trance and Jungle Factory Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 11:15:34 -0700 Message-ID: <006801be9d6c$97f09db0$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 In-Reply-To: <023401be9d68$bda1a6c0$ac0318d1@ssimarkfmt> Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Didn't ya know? They'll bend over backwards for ya, and any number of other positions. They're pretty open to suggestion. ;-P M<>< > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of Nick Ngo > Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 10:48 AM > To: Joaqman; Matthew Johan; sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: Trance and Jungle Factory is a crock of shit > > > Do you gargle as well????? Im kidding....bad taste...sorry, but couldnt > help myself. > > > Nick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joaqman > To: Matthew Johan ; > Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 10:23 AM > Subject: Re: Trance and Jungle Factory is a crock of shit > > > > yeah!!!! and besides this is joaqman and i work on > > saturdays @ the t & J factory. we don't just suck, > > we swallow ;) > > > > brevity & levity is the key to longevity, > > jonas > > > > > > > > > > > > ---Matthew Johan wrote: > > > > > > I checked past posts-- the person that posted this > > message was also > > > responsible for posting a very tasteless joke about > > a week or two ago. > > > Probably just looking for attention. > > > > > > > > > At 11:56 PM 5/12/99 -0400, Laalkuchaa@aol.com wrote: > > > >Warning to everyone. The Trance and Jungle > > Factory SUCKS! ! ! ! ! Save your > > > >money DON'T FUCKING GO THERE! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 18:12:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11234 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 18:12:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 11020 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 18:12:38 -0000 Received: from law-f5.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 18:12:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 43599 invoked by uid 0); 13 May 1999 17:57:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513175723.43598.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.26.131.21 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 May 1999 10:57:22 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.26.131.21] From: ". Venus ." To: nngo@velos.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Asians in the RAVE scene Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 10:57:22 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am happy that the scene accepts all people of any race, sex, and sexuality. Come one come all. I have many Asian friends in the scene and love their presence. THE MORE THE MERRIER! (well, sometimes) - venus D A N C E M E T O T H E E N D O F L O V E From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 18:12:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11608 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 18:12:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 11004 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 18:12:32 -0000 Received: from central.cnet.com (204.162.81.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 18:12:32 -0000 Received: from ericm2.cnet.com (135.8.10.10.nat.cnet.com [10.10.8.135]) by central.cnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA15696; Thu, 13 May 1999 11:12:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <015001be9d6c$97de2720$87080a0a@ericm2.cnet.com> From: "Eric Moser" To: "Matt -RED" , Subject: Re: Hippies At Raves Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 11:15:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Whenever you fool yourself into thinking that you don't have anything to learn from somebody, you're usually pretty far off ;^) We all (collectively and individually) have a lot to learn from each other. And, hippies have more to offer ravers than just their hugging experience. The hippy culture was/is in a similar situation that modern ravers are in (a misunderstood sub-culture that thrives on alternative viewpoints; lovers of psychedelic music that inspires ecstatic dancing; group problems with stigmatized drug use and common drug abuse; a general disposition towards love, respect, and acceptance that the mainstream doesn't really share; etc.) I continue to see ravers as a newer iteration of hippies (...who were an iteration themselves of other sub-cultures...) There are a lot of paralells between the two groups... and the hippies have been doing it for a long, long, long time. Even young hippies (like myself) have benefited from that experience. I think looking at the "peace and love, man" aspect of the hippy culture really simplifies things. -----Original Message----- From: Matt -RED To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, May 13, 1999 10:38 AM Subject: Re: Hippies At Raves >What type of raver are you talking about? Some ravers are PLUR and already do all >that hugging. Some ravers are anti-plur or don't go by those "guidelines" at all >and that's their take on things. What do we have to learn from you though? > >We know how to hug and be friendly... > >-Matthew > >BodhiInSF@aol.com wrote: > > Speaking of the many diverse people who go to raves, what about hippies at > > raves? Always smilling, always willing to give a stranger hugs. We bring in > > the absolute acceptance of all people and love for everyone. If anyone has > > ever been to a rainbow gathering, or camped out with hippies, we always > > depart from each other with a great big hug, and with the words, "loving you > > brother/sister!" Nobody usualy steals (if it ever happens, it is so rare), > > and sharing is so routine. No judgement, no deliberate negative attitudes, > > and yes, most of us take baths, for christ's sake!, and were pretty tollerant > > and open about anybody and anything, as long as it's positive. Isn't this > > the type of values that are so needed in the rave scene? Ravers have alot to > > learn from hippies! > > Loving all of you! ---Bodhi > > > > >Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com >Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting >cards for any occassion at http://greetings.xoom.com > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 18:44:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7129 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 18:44:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 7102 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 18:44:34 -0000 Received: from web808.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 18:44:34 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513184734.29627.rocketmail@web808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.99] by web808.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 11:47:34 PDT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 11:47:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Did we lose Layne? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know what happened to Layne from the list, he used to post some really good stuff, and im just missin it, did we lose him?? -curiousJ Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 18:47:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8693 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 18:47:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 8668 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 18:47:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 18:47:02 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 138; Thu, 13 May 1999 11:44:13 -0700 Message-ID: <373B1E3C.D5B16176@hrg.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 11:47:25 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jess ica CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Did we lose Layne? References: <19990513184734.29627.rocketmail@web808.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yeah, whered you go mr loomis? john r Jess ica wrote: > Does anyone know what happened to Layne from the list, he used to post > some really good stuff, and im just missin it, did we lose him?? > > -curiousJ > > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 18:48:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9747 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 18:48:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 9739 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 18:48:10 -0000 Received: from web303.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.185) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 18:48:10 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513184924.29497.rocketmail@web303.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.7.187] by web303.yahoomail.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 11:49:24 PDT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 11:49:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Gosiewski Subject: BSP: Drum&Bass Comes to SF Carnaval '99 !! To: sf raves Cc: Misse E , Z DNB-Arena-Newsletter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Drum&Bass Comes to the SF Carnaval this year!! On Sun. May 30th Carnaval goes off in the Mission District of San Francisco!! In addition to all the usual Salsa, Soca, Reggae & Funk - This year there will be a float featuring A full Drum & Bass SoundSystem With Turns + Live Keys, Sax, Bass & Vocals (With lots of special secret guests!!!). ... For two hours the streets of SF will be Boomin' with fresh, Hard & Original Jungle, Breakbeats, Drum& Bass & Dub ... Including the premier of the new D&B/Breakbeat/Dubmix of Bob Marleys Classic `Exodus'! in a special Epic 30 minute version! The Float will be one of two organised by A Waking Dream . ... Float 1 will have the SoundSystem, musicians & a Mondo Condo Theme (Featuring Art & Costumes about the exodus of artists from SF & Live/Work issues) & Float 2 will be LunaTree celebrating Julia Butterfly & her environmental activism and will Feature tons of kids in Butterfly Costumes. The Float will be a moving target - route details will be posted soon ... As will details of the D&B Afterparty .... Anyone wanting to help out (Make/wear Costumes etc) is welcome... EMail me back for details! Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 18:52:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14170 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 18:52:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 14028 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 18:52:39 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 18:52:39 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-188.dsp.com [204.118.76.188]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA22336; Thu, 13 May 1999 11:52:28 -0700 Message-Id: <199905131852.LAA22336@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 11:51:11 -0700 To: johnr@hrg.com, Jess ica From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: Did we lose Layne? Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <373B1E3C.D5B16176@hrg.com> References: <19990513184734.29627.rocketmail@web808.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Indeed! I periodically re-read posts of his that I saved, they were so brilliant. I want to quote him on Peace Dividend. (the other) Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 19:13:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1634 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 19:13:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 1371 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 19:12:22 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 19:12:22 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA08327 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:11:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905131911.MAA08327@mail.netwiz.net> To: "San FranDisco Ravers List" Subject: 187 (??) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:11:15 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk so what exactly does 187 signify? I mean there's a jungle dj/prod called 187, right?, and the best speed garage to date has been made by a UK duo (Julian Jonah and Omar) called 187 Lockdown. I also vaguely recall some gangsta/blax movie in the video stores called 187. what does 187 signify? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 19:13:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1757 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 19:13:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 1572 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 19:13:07 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 19:13:07 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA05647 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:12:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca36-05.ix.netcom.com(209.110.232.197) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma005519; Thu May 13 14:11:40 1999 Message-Id: <4.1.19990513120447.00c60790@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: ascend@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:14:17 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Greg Sandler Subject: Dj Greg Sandler @ First Light! (bsp) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone, Just wanted to tell everyone that i will be performing at First Light this weekend! This party is going to be the BOMB!!! I can't wait to hear Andrei Morant. He is a great techno producer, I want to know if he is as good of a dj. ; ) Don't miss out! Peace and love, Greg = ) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 19:14:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1977 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 19:13:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 1597 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 19:13:11 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd92.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.156) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 19:13:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 94695 invoked by uid 0); 13 May 1999 19:12:45 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513191245.94694.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.250.189.79 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:12:44 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.250.189.79] From: "ve anne" To: resourcerecords@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: hak1@earthlink.org Subject: Re: Sideburn Slims not a DJ! Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 19:12:44 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well you always need someone to play the shitty time slots ;) veanne From: tHe AcCoMplICe To: sfraves@hyperreal.org CC: hak1@earthlink.org Subject: Sideburn Slims not a DJ! Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:24:59 -0700 (PDT) Why is it that there are so many Dj's that can't even mix, playing out at parties? Why are these Dj's being represented by agents?? Are these agents hard of hearing? How can a Dj that got caught stealing hundreds of dollars worth of records from Solid Grooves and STILL play out? How can a Dj who gets fired from T&J Factory for stealing, still play out?? Why are they STILL being represented by agents? Side Burn Slim is not a DJ folks. A liar, theif and loser, but definatly, NOT a DJ! What ever you do, don't hire him to play at your party, he might find something to steal! Oh, and to all the agents who represent Dj's like this, you are giving yourself, and any deserving Dj's that you represent, a very bad name! Stop with the poop!! Seriously...it stinks! chris Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 19:19:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5044 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 19:18:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 4844 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 19:18:05 -0000 Received: from wya-oe17.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.82) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 19:18:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 663 invoked by uid 0); 13 May 1999 19:20:54 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513192054.662.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.250.189.79 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:20:53 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.250.189.79] From: "ve anne" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: *cute* Asian *girlies* in the RAVE scene Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 19:20:53 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk all i gotta say is *drOol* and yeah we need more of em! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 19:20:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5600 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 19:20:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 5452 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 19:19:44 -0000 Received: from mail.healthoutcomes.com (HELO marketing.healthoutcomes.com) (209.24.3.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 19:19:44 -0000 Received: from nngo ([209.24.3.172]) by marketing.healthoutcomes.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-58286U100L2S100V35) with SMTP id AAA45; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:28:30 -0700 Message-ID: <008b01be9d75$73acee00$ac0318d1@ssimarkfmt> From: nngo@velos.com (Nick Ngo) To: "San FranDisco Ravers List" , "Niels P. Mayer" References: <199905131911.MAA08327@mail.netwiz.net> Subject: Re: 187 (??) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:18:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It's police code for homicide. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: Niels P. Mayer To: San FranDisco Ravers List Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 12:11 PM Subject: 187 (??) > > so what exactly does 187 signify? I mean there's a jungle dj/prod called > 187, right?, and the best speed garage to date has been made by a UK duo > (Julian Jonah and Omar) called 187 Lockdown. I also vaguely recall some > gangsta/blax movie in the video stores called 187. > > what does 187 signify? > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << > >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 19:29:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13271 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 19:29:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 13081 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 19:29:31 -0000 Received: from web803.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.63) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 19:29:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513193509.8271.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.99] by web803.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:35:09 PDT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:35:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Laynes thoughts! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk One of my particular favorites. Remember this... Some Thoughts: "Imagine life as a game in which you are juggling some five balls in the air. You name them- work, family, health, friends, and spirit- and you're keeping all of these in the air. You will soon understand that work is a rubber ball. If you drop it, it will bounce back. But the other four balls- family, health, friends, and spirit- are made of glass. If you drop one of these, they will be irrevocably scuffed, marked, nicked, damaged or even shattered. They will never be the same. You must understand that and strive for balance in your life. How? Dont undermine your worth by comparing yourself with others. It is because we are different that each of us is special. Dont set your goals by what other people deem important. Only you know what is best for you. Dont take for granted the things closest to your heart Cling to them as you would your life, for without them, life is meaningless. Dont let your life slip through your fingers by living in the past or for the future. By living your life one day at a time, you live ALL the days of your life. Dont give up when you still have something to give. Nothing is really over until the moment you stop trying. Dont be afraid to admit that you are less than perfect. It is a fragile thread that binds is to eachother. Dont be afraid to encounter risks. It is by taking chances that we learn how to be brave. Dont shut love out of your life by saying its impossible to find. The quickest way to receive love is to give love; the fastest way to lose love is to take it for granted; and the best way to keep love is to give it wings. Dont run through life so fast that you forget not only where you've been, but also where your going. Dont forget, a persons greatest emotional need is to feel appreciated. Dont be afraid to learn. Knowledge is weightless, a treasure you can always carry easily. Dont use time or words carelessly. Neither can be retreived. Life is not a race, but a journey to be savored each step of the way. Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, and today is a gift, thats why we call it the present... There is no true way to happiness, happiness is the way. Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 19:32:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18597 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 19:32:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 18371 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 19:32:01 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 19:32:01 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-187.dsp.com [204.118.76.187]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA23073; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:31:59 -0700 Message-Id: <199905131931.MAA23073@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:30:51 -0700 To: "Niels P. Mayer" , "San FranDisco Ravers List" From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: 187 (??) In-Reply-To: <199905131911.MAA08327@mail.netwiz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Isn't 187 the CA penal code # for homicide? Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 19:34:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22812 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 19:34:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 22802 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 19:34:42 -0000 Received: from web113.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.84) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 19:34:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513193451.22619.rocketmail@web113.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web113.yahoomail.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:34:51 PDT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:34:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: 187 (??) To: "Niels P. Mayer" , San FranDisco Ravers List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 187 = Police Code for Murder *HUGZ* pat *Side Note* J/DB dj 187 got (then him) her name when someone yelled out that (s)he 187'd the speakers at a performance. ;) Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 19:38:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26788 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 19:38:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 26720 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 19:38:01 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 19:38:01 -0000 Received: from CanContrl@aol.com (7808) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id lIPUa19535; Thu, 13 May 1999 15:36:20 -0400 (EDT) From: CanContrl@aol.com Message-ID: <10bdd8ba.246c83b3@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:36:19 EDT Subject: Re: 187 (??) To: npm@mail.netwiz.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Homicide on the scene << what does 187 signify? >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 19:53:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7940 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 19:53:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 7927 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 19:53:54 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?Eg8GO3z8EcVu0jg5GBdryW7BeD1Lb4og?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 19:53:54 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id MAA25825 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:53:51 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:53:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: one eight seven In-Reply-To: <10bdd8ba.246c83b3@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk One of the saddest stories you'll ever hear is about a Bay Area rapper some of you may remember called Plan B. He was super talented, original, funny, thoughtful, hard, miserable, he was really really good...part of the revivial of creativity in Bay Area hiphop. There is a huge mural dedicated to him in Oakland still somewhere, I believe. One day he got a page that read 187. Next thing you know, he was dead. =( "Sayin where will I go, when I die? Will I be underground like I am now, or in the sky? My maaaaaaan Plan B, is smiling cos he....can feel me." --Saafir The Saucee Nomad, in "Can U Feel Me?" from Boxcar Sessions... which is an ESSENTIAL Bay Area rap LP. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 19:55:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9741 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 19:55:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 9696 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 19:55:01 -0000 Received: from mail.healthoutcomes.com (HELO marketing.healthoutcomes.com) (209.24.3.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 19:55:01 -0000 Received: from nngo ([209.24.3.172]) by marketing.healthoutcomes.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-58286U100L2S100V35) with SMTP id AAA326 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:03:48 -0700 Message-ID: <014e01be9d7a$61e4ad20$ac0318d1@ssimarkfmt> From: nngo@velos.com (Nick Ngo) To: Subject: Some interesting tidbit from the socal rave list Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:54:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_014B_01BE9D3F.B53B1080" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_014B_01BE9D3F.B53B1080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey everyone, I dunno if this list has touched on this subject before, but does E = causes a straight person to turn bi or have bi thoughts? I have heard = this from a two of my friends and they say that when they're on E it = makes them want to hug everyone and kiss everyone guys or girls and im = not talking about no pecks in the cheeks either but the full on pepe le = pew smooch with the tongue and all. I dunno it does seems kinda true. = Sometimes when Im at a party sober and all, there will many guys who = would come up to me and hug me and wont let go... I mean a hug is cool, = i'll hug anyone and everything but when you're being bearhugged for more = than 15 seconds...i think that's just a little too much. Uh...im not = homophobic or anything but still...its kinda awkward dont u say??? Nick ------=_NextPart_000_014B_01BE9D3F.B53B1080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hey everyone,
 
I dunno if this list has touched on = this subject=20 before, but does E  causes a straight person to turn bi or have bi=20 thoughts?  I have heard this from a two of my friends and they say = that=20 when they're on E it makes them want to hug everyone and kiss everyone = guys or=20 girls and im not talking about no pecks in the cheeks either but the = full on=20 pepe le pew smooch with the tongue and all.  I dunno it does seems = kinda=20 true.  Sometimes when Im at a party sober and all, there will many = guys who=20 would come up to me and hug me and wont let go...  I mean a hug is = cool,=20 i'll hug anyone and everything but when you're being bearhugged for more = than 15=20 seconds...i think that's just a little too much.  Uh...im not = homophobic or=20 anything but still...its kinda awkward dont u say???
 
Nick
------=_NextPart_000_014B_01BE9D3F.B53B1080-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 19:59:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12944 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 19:59:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 12907 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 19:58:56 -0000 Received: from www0p.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.45) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 19:58:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 16217 invoked by uid 60001); 13 May 1999 19:58:38 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513195838.16216.qmail@www0p.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.45 by www0p via web-mailer(M3.0.0.118) on Thu May 13 19:58:37 GMT 1999 Date: 13 May 99 12:58:37 PDT From: Stuart Sung To: ve anne , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [Re: *cute* Asian *girlies* in the RAVE scene] X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.118) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk "ve anne" wrote: > all i gotta say is *drOol* > = > and yeah we need more of em! > = LOL...need a beach towel to wipe all that *drOol*?? =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D And your crybaby whiny-assed opinion would be...? Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 20:06:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19823 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 20:06:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 19814 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 20:06:23 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?1KNPARpkwT2YqNZ51zwQnyCOS2Au7p7N?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 20:06:23 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id NAA28747; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:06:21 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:06:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: Nick Ngo cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: hahahahah gettin RAND-E widdit In-Reply-To: <014e01be9d7a$61e4ad20$ac0318d1@ssimarkfmt> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 13 May 1999, Nick Ngo wrote: > hey everyone, > > I dunno if this list has touched on this subject before, but does E causes a straight person to turn bi or have bi thoughts? I have heard this from a two of my friends and they say that when they're on E it makes them want to hug everyone and kiss everyone guys or girls and im not talking about no pecks in the cheeks either but the full on pepe le pew smooch with the tongue and all. I dunno it does seems kinda true. Sometimes when Im at a party sober and all, there will many guys who would come up to me and hug me and wont let go... I mean a hug is cool, i'll hug anyone and everything but when you're being bearhugged for more than 15 seconds...i think that's just a little too much. Uh...im not homophobic or anything but still...its kinda awkward dont u say??? > > Nick > When I was a lad I was very very organic or whatever, and didn't take chemical drugs for a long time. At this point, although it's very uncommon, I go for my roll sometimes, and there seems to be a couple different outcomes if I do it at a party.... 1) I am there with someone in particular and we bogle grind all night and Grooverider and Fabio make my fuckin world turn. 2) I am there with a huge group of Korean and Filipino kids and one gay Mexican, and they all pile up and start taking pictures and doing the GVC cheers, and I join in, and then go lose my shit bouncin to Chris Liberator or something, and only return for 2 minute backrubs and GVC cheering. 3) I am MCing for DJ Casper and I sing and people ask me why I don't do that more often, and I am so hopelessly lost in the music I don't notice there are other people around. 4) I meet a bunch of sorority girls from my school who I have seen before but never met and we brock out to Tyree Cooper->Terry Mullan->Adam Freeland until it's all over and then get a ride home with them because my friends all left early, and smoke a lot. 5) Um. I think that's about it. IF...I get all frisky, it doesn't make the repressed hairdresser (which is there) come out and kiss boys. It is more like...the curly haired Salvadorean soccer playing lesbian inside me comes out and wants some love. DO NOT PISS HER OFF OR HARSH HER MELLOW VIBE, KISS HER/ME. That is all. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 20:11:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26169 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 20:11:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 26048 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 20:11:23 -0000 Received: from diana.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.239) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 20:11:23 -0000 Received: from [130.212.201.143] (madmax-88.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.88]) by diana.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA27299 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:10:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <015001be9d6c$97de2720$87080a0a@ericm2.cnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:10:51 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Michael Standish Subject: Re: Hippies At Raves Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 11:15 AM -0700 5/13/99, Eric Moser wrote: >The hippy culture was/is in a similar situation that modern ravers are in There are parallels to what hippies were about thirty years ago. But now? Oh please. Back in the day hippies were in to NEW fashions, new ideas, new music. Now these self styled hippies come along and get in to old fashion, old music, and old ideas. >misunderstood sub-culture that thrives on alternative viewpoints; lovers of >psychedelic music Wait a minute; I'm a raver (have been for seven years), and I don't like psychedelic music. >stigmatized drug use and common drug abuse; That's not just ravers, and hippies. That's the whole country. Saying we have drugs in common is like saying we have breathing in common. a general disposition towards >love, respect, and acceptance that the mainstream doesn't really share; Yeah right. Try telling a hippy that you're not concerned with vivisection, and see how much respect you get. Sorry but I've met hundreds of hippies, and I can assure you that the likelihood that hippies will be accepting and respectful is no different than for any other group. Get real. Hippies are just people. A little tie-dye, and PU-chewly, do not a saint make. Sir Ulrich Knight of the Turntables From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 20:17:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29899 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 20:17:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 29865 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 20:16:59 -0000 Received: from web132.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.175) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 20:16:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513201711.5774.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web132.yahoomail.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:17:11 PDT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:17:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: NRR: For the bored To: SF Ravers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I found this while looking up the 187 penal code thing. ;) http://www.phish.net/PhishFAQ/n420.html *HUGZ* pat Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 20:23:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3436 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 20:23:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 3424 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 20:23:49 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 20:23:49 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (BayArea56k550.NetWiz.Net [208.164.208.150]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA20916; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905132022.NAA20916@mail.netwiz.net> To: "San FranDisco Ravers List" , groovi-music@netwiz.net Subject: WMC and freestyle classics article on amazon.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:23:09 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk two interesting items from amazon.com's dance/dj marketing/mailing: WINTER MUSIC CONFERENCE *********************** Pity the poor, over-boogied dance-music industry. Not only do the DJs get groupies and the writers and A&R guys receive tons of free records, but every March the dance scene's prominent members (the dreadlocked, goateed, and suited alike) take a week off for the Winter Music Conference in Miami's ultratrendy South Beach. These souls are forced by their jobs to dance all night to one hip, international DJ after another. Dance & DJ editor Mike McGonigal spoke with four professional music journalists about what really blew their minds in the Florida night--and what didn't. http://www.amazon.com/wmc-interview (PS: npm also recommends giving a listen to the two very long WMC RealAudio sets on www.betalounge.com ...) CAN'T-MISS FREESTYLE CLASSICS ***************************** Also known as "the Latin hip-hop," freestyle music was a sped up, romantic variation of the electro-boogie beat sounds of the early '80s. A club-based sound, the music often failed to get respect from the radio, MTV, and at times even the fans. But the genre has been responsible for several huge chart hits, while the records (notably those by Jellybean, TKA, Jocelyn Enriquez, Stevie B, and Expose) endure to this day. Check out Amazon.com writer John Sanchez's list of the 10 essential freestyle recordings. http://www.amazon.com/freestyle-classics =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 20:28:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5841 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 20:28:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 5664 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 20:28:15 -0000 Received: from zahn.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 20:28:15 -0000 Received: from godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.43]) by zahn.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id QAA15573; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:21:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id QAA10639; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:21:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:21:39 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu To: Nick Ngo cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Some interesting tidbit from the socal rave list In-Reply-To: <014e01be9d7a$61e4ad20$ac0318d1@ssimarkfmt> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well, to shed some light on an asnwer to your question, e can give people thoughts of bisexulaity but those thoughts would already be in their heads to begin with, maybe burried somewhere, but they were there already. e does make you want to give hugs cuz it feels GRRRRREAT! to hug things on e. hell the first time i ever did it i danced with a carpeted pole for 3 hours, but that's just me :) it's not necessarily that you're having "bi" thoughts if you are on e and you want to hug someone, even of the same sex, for a long time. it just means it feels good to hug someone. it feels good to hug someone for a long time when you're sober too, guy or girl. a drug is not going to MAKE you bisexual or gay/lesbian, but it might bring out such feelings that you didn't know where there but are a very real and special part of a person that shouldn't be ignored. there are also going to be the poeple who don't have these feelings at all, and that's alright too, but they may still come up and give you huge bear hugs. it doesn't mean they are attracted to you - it just menas they are doing something that makes them (and it should make you) feel good. much love, amber --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 20:37:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12278 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 20:37:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 12265 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 20:37:46 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 20:37:46 -0000 Received: from user (AM5-68-52-213.ixpres.com [209.75.52.213]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA75597; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990513131821.006b9ff0@mail.ixpres.com> X-Sender: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:18:21 -0700 To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: Re: FREEDOM!! In-Reply-To: <177ce2dc.246b6375@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Okay, i was really really upset when i read this, but then i checked the SFR calendar myself and it doesn't say anything about Freedom being a one-niter...are we perhaps talking about different events here? I'm thinking of freedom as in 4th of July freedom, and from all my sources i've heard it's going to be in the exact same place as last year (near calaveras county so we do the jumping frog :-). I'm making the trek up from San Diego, and i don't know what racetrack is referred to, but it sounds wacked! *hugs* madhvi At 07:06 PM 5/12/99 EDT, TeKnODiVa@aol.com wrote: >Hi I was surfing the calendar and it said Freedom is going to be a one night >party this year. Does that mean they moved it back to the racetrack?? I >would be so excited if they did... I'm in campout mode but still.. from what >I heard about that drive last year, I don't know if my car can take it..... > > hugs n'stuff, >trice the tekno diva > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 20:38:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12703 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 20:38:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 12584 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 20:38:01 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 20:38:01 -0000 Received: from user (AM5-68-52-213.ixpres.com [209.75.52.213]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA75618; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990513133324.006bb278@mail.ixpres.com> X-Sender: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:33:24 -0700 To: "Mohan Veloo" , "Nick Ngo" , From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: RACES IN ANY SCENE In-Reply-To: <000a01be9cb5$0f6d7d80$4e14a8c0@altro.com> References: <01b401be9cb1$8e3c1800$ac0318d1@ssimarkfmt> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey kidz, Well, i wasn't going to respond to this thread, but then i figured, what the hell, my $.02 could be interesting. Okay, i'm indian (as in India indian) born there, lived there for a few years, but mostly an all-american kid. Here's the thing: What bugs the shit outta me is when ANY race of people hang out together, ONLY w/ each other, keep to themselves, and look at you as an intruder should u try to talk to them. I HARDLY see any Indians in the rave scene, and i've been partying for nearly a fucking decade. Most Indian kidz i know wanna hang out, get drunk, listen to bad hip-hop, and date/fuck each other. They all travel in HUGE-ass groups, the girls are usually hanging out discussing the merits of this one boy or dissing another girl, the boyz are hanging out talking about what hot shit they are and how they'd like to fuck all the girlz. Sounds a bit like a scary fraternity/sorority party, no? These people are not my friends, i don't like their attitude/philosphy of reverse racism and it bugs me that they all need to hang out en masse b/c if it were just a couple of them they might wither away & die. They don't listen to the soul inside of themselves, and b/c of this they miss so much. SO relating this to the Asian Invasion: I think that everyone's misunderstanding what Nick was trying to ask/say. It's not about "EWWW, i'm sick of this asian invasion and let's keep it to the white kidz". It's more like, what's this collective group that keeps to themselves and doesn't feel the need to reach out to anyone else? And when i say this, i refer to ANY group of people who have that same lame philosophy. I think that whole color-blind thing is a crock of SHIT. *OF COURSE* you notice different races....we all have eyes, we can see. I don't think of myself as Indian or having a darker skintone or all that every minute of the day, but when someone meets me you can sure bet that it crosses their mind at least once. Now, if they let that be the reason for not wanting to be a friend, then i consider that a problem, but there's nothing wrong w/ noticing differences in each other. WE ARE NOT HOMOGENOUS, you know? SHit people, have we become so PC that we can't even hold a dialogue about races w/out people freaking out? I've hung out in the LA, San Diego, & SF scene, and i see Asian Gangsta kids all the time. I dont' want to typify them all as that, but it's hard when a group is so into themselves. This is what i see before my eyes and the feeling of unwelcomeness and incomprehension of the true spirit is what i perceive from groups of kids like this, whether they be Asian, Indian, Mexican, or pan-European. Seriously. The more the merrier, but EVERYONE & ANYONE in the scene should try to be open to all others, and not huddle into their e-puddles...it's just undermines the feeling of unity that i think many of us crave & strive to create. thanx for listening and sorry if i wasn't as eloquent as i coulda been...words in my head that travel to my hands sometimes get garbled in the process. maybe plato's theory of the perfect being in your head is really true. If that's the case then I'd be BAD-ASS dj Number One, becuz the beatz in my head blow me away! :-))))))))) HUGS & HUGZ madhvi P.S.-- Just outta curiosity, i had no idea there were 6 kids doing FTT. I thought it was just 3...learn sumthin new every day, huh? At 01:21 PM 5/12/99 -0700, Mohan Veloo wrote: > What 'Asian Invasion'? Three of the 6 partners of Funky Tekno Tribe are >Asian. We've been around for 6 - 7 years... Actually when I really think >about it... the six of us are Black, Filipino, Chinese, Indian (Eastern >Indian), Latino and White... all colors... ;) Mohan (Indian) Funky >Tekno Tribe -----Original Message----- >From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On >Behalf Of Nick Ngo >Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 12:57 PM >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Asians in the RAVE scene > > Hello everyone, So if you wanna gripe, flame, or say >racists things...I'll listen to you with my blindfolds on. Thanks, > Nick > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 20:40:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14134 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 20:40:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 14089 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 20:40:16 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 20:40:16 -0000 Received: from Sera13@aol.com (7996) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iMYGa19519; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:28:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Sera13@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:28:53 EDT Subject: Re: Some interesting tidbit from the socal rave list To: nngo@velos.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Nick, Did you seriously post this or am I delerious because I haven't slept for a few days? from, the 1 o/o From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 20:45:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17678 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 20:45:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 17489 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 20:44:57 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 20:44:57 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (3933) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vBTLa02055 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:43:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <2690d728.246c938c@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:43:56 EDT Subject: Re: WMC and freestyle classics article on amazon.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk speakin of freestyle music.. ..does anyone on this list happen to spin freestyle or know alot about it? i usually get booked to do parties where some of the kids listen to this and start to get down WILD 94.9 style. well if anyone does let me know... ...my all time favorite "When I Hear Music" by Debbie Deb DJMEGATRON:mechasoul In a message dated 5/13/99 4:23:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, npm@mail.netwiz.net writes: << CAN'T-MISS FREESTYLE CLASSICS ***************************** Also known as "the Latin hip-hop," freestyle music was a sped up, romantic variation of the electro-boogie beat sounds of the early '80s. A club-based sound, the music often failed to get respect from the radio, MTV, and at times even the fans. But the genre has been responsible for several huge chart hits, while the records (notably those by Jellybean, TKA, Jocelyn Enriquez, Stevie B, and Expose) endure to this day. Check out Amazon.com writer John Sanchez's list of the 10 essential freestyle recordings. >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 20:45:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17761 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 20:45:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 17595 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 20:44:59 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 20:44:59 -0000 Received: from Sera13@aol.com (7996) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vCKWa13996 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:43:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Sera13@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:43:57 EDT Subject: Re: Some interesting tidbit from the socal rave list To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk didn't mean for the whole world to get that...... sorry. o/o, sera From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 20:47:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20921 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 20:47:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 20908 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 20:47:39 -0000 Received: from law-f136.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.199) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 20:47:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 93133 invoked by uid 0); 13 May 1999 20:47:12 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513204712.93132.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.215.151 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:47:12 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.215.151] From: "Amber Leahey" To: whtrabt@ix.netcom.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Other types of music Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:47:12 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey Jenn...You forgot the most important band...WEEN. Amber (A.K.A. st*rgrrl) >From: Jennifer and Daniel Herron >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: NRR: Other types of music >Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 09:01:55 +0000 > >Ok I had to contribute of course much below is just pure cheese but hell >my family is from the midwest..I love cheese. > >*Elvis (I saw him in concert when I was 4..it's something I'll never >forget) >*REM >*Danielle Dax >*KLF >*Neil Diamond (I was serious about the cheese!) >*ABBA (As above) >*Wyclef Jean >*Julee Cruise >*T-Rex >*Orbital >*Doors >*My Life With the Thrill Kill Kult >*Beethoven >*Cab Calloway >*Yma Sumac >*David Bowie >*Simon and Garfunkle >*Aaron Copland >*Angelo Baldementi >*Dione Warwick >*Helen Kane >and so forth........ > > Jennifer aka Chrysallys From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 20:50:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23646 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 20:50:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 23499 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 20:50:11 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?0R2WSkC+MKNBGyjoGXDSFxnDDZj3++os?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 20:50:11 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id NAA08233; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:50:09 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:50:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: Megatron45@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: WMC and freestyle classics article on amazon.com In-Reply-To: <2690d728.246c938c@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 13 May 1999 Megatron45@aol.com wrote: > ...my all time favorite "When I Hear Music" by Debbie Deb > > Jellybean, TKA, Jocelyn Enriquez, Stevie B, and Expose) WHY DID NO ONE MENTION LIL SUZIE?!!?@ I love Lil Suzie. Man, take me back to my days of getting kicked out of Great America all day with season passes hidden in our shoes, brocking out to freestyle with the South Bay hotties. And man, nothing you will ever see is as sexy as clubs in Texas with like 400 thousand Tejanas chuscas getting LOOSE to the stuff. Well, I guess I've never been to a proper Miami bass type party. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 20:51:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25346 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 20:51:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 25166 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 20:50:55 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 20:50:55 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com (8075) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id tILMa05093; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:49:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:49:30 EDT Subject: Re: RACES IN ANY SCENE To: mdalal@ixpres.com, mohan@funkytekno.net, nngo@velos.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/13/99 1:38:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mdalal@ixpres.com writes: << Most Indian kidz i know wanna hang out, get drunk, listen to bad hip-hop, and date/fuck each other. They all travel in HUGE-ass groups, the girls are usually hanging out discussing the merits of this one boy or dissing another girl, the boyz are hanging out talking about what hot shit they are and how they'd like to fuck all the girlz. >> Sorry to make an obvious point, but I think that would hold for any race of people! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 20:53:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26749 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 20:53:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 26732 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 20:53:52 -0000 Received: from netcom13.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.125) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 20:53:52 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom13.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id NAA04407; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:53:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:53:25 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Re: RACES IN ANY SCENE To: Madhvi Dalal cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990513133324.006bb278@mail.ixpres.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i'm right with you, brother Madhvi! i'm sure as hell not color blind and i hope that folks looking at me aren't either! we all have so many wonderful things to share that are rooted in our race, our ethnicity and our cultures that we are denying ourselves and each other a wealth of experiences if we choose to simply ignore these factors in favor of an easier way of dealing with large groups of people. what works is integration and sharing and we've all got something to share. an i mean *everyone* has something to share... i've heard too many white folks tell me "oh, i'm white. i've got no culture." bullshit! your ancestors have a whole continent full of culture across the atlantic, and then another 507 years of culture over here! so white folks aren't excused from this. :o) we need to love ourselves, love our differences and love what we have to share. it's when you stop trying to share and you *let* people cluster into their own little groups that things start to break down. if we each take an active role and make a point of getting to know people who seem to be slipping away, then we'll have nothing to fear. uncle noah says, "Everybody needs love!" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 20:54:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27351 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 20:54:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 27211 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 20:54:03 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 20:54:03 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA26875; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:53:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905132053.NAA26875@mail.netwiz.net> To: Megatron45@aol.com Cc: "San FranDisco Ravers List" Subject: Re: WMC and freestyle classics article on amazon.com In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 13 May 1999 16:43:56 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:53:57 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >speakin of freestyle music.. >..does anyone on this list happen to spin freestyle or know alot about it? i >usually get booked to do parties where some of the kids listen to this and >start to get down WILD 94.9 style. well if anyone does let me know... >...my all time favorite "When I Hear Music" by Debbie Deb I've always liked freestyle. DOn't know if I'm knowledgeable about it. Though I never really considered freestyle to be something played on the radio, certainly not 94.9. Speaking of freestyle, I really like this group from the UK called the Freestylers. They have a CD of their own music out, plus a mix CD of their tracks mixed with others. They're kinda a strange amalgamation of electro, beatbox, hip-hop, D&B, dark speed garage, etc. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 20:56:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29180 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 20:56:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 29164 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 20:56:24 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 20:56:24 -0000 Received: from Kandehata@aol.com (3945) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vCTYa09693 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:55:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Kandehata@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:55:38 EDT Subject: Re: RACES IN ANY SCENE To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/13/99 1:54:31 PM PDT, Kandehata writes: << Most Indian kidz i know wanna hang out, get drunk, listen to bad hip-hop, and date/fuck each other. They all travel in HUGE-ass groups, the girls are usually hanging out discussing the merits of this one boy or dissing another girl, the boyz are hanging out talking about what hot shit they are and how they'd like to fuck all the girlz. >> hey wait a min...... im INDIAN and i dont get drunk all the time and i dont listen to "bad hip-hop" and i MOST DEFENITELY DONT FUK OR DATE EVERYONE???we leave that up to some peeps in our scene...but we wont go there......but ya us indians do like to travel in fat packs od peopel that way if we want we can have our own pow wow in the street....something like a party?????ya! hahah A From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 20:56:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29410 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 20:56:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 29250 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 20:56:27 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?F15ulZcCxMqRZEGnFr5WtXy9pxTY3dTX?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 20:56:27 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id NAA09244; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:56:20 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:56:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley Reply-To: Max McCauley To: WHISTLE CREW! HOW THE BLOODY HELL ARE YOU? , djhoneyb@hotmail.com, johnsin@hyperreal.org, merit@spinner.com, method1@neteze.com, mikegee@freshmilk.com, sf-jungle@saturn5.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Thursday->Saturday in the SF Bay Area Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OK, let's run it: Thursday: Eklektic (quasi-pre-party for the Formula) anoche con: Aye-N and Ivry (Splank) DJ Sage w/ MC Duh (her-Phunckateck, me-Honkeys Local #44) DJ Squirt w/ MC Mack Deezy (32 Degrees, Dallas Tex) www.izmedia.com/eklektic Friday: my recommendation: Groove On's Ethereal with DJ Science (Viberation) from 12-1:30 and DJ Megatron (Mechasoul) from 1:30-3 with MC Duh and the darkside diva MC Angel also playing: Bassment at 1015 Folsom's Nikita with DB (hella shit, NYC) and DJ Kayar (Bassment) Saturday: daytime: Pork Chop Hill with (among others) Hak & Siphon (Urban Assault), 12noon-8pm, All ages. Santa Clara Central Park, Santa Clara. nighttime: First Light with (a fantastic lineup in all three rooms) Hak & Siphon (Urban Assault) Rinse & Flux (Compound Records, B.A.S.S. Kru) Protolab (live PA...I saw them finally, WICKED) Micron at 2nd and Jackson BOH BOH BOH or.... Splank presents: the Formula with (trying to do this from memory...) Soulslinger, Odi, Del Mar, J-Smooth, DJ Squirt, Rinse & Flux, Aye-N, Ivry...er, I think dassit. w/ MC's Jamalski and TC Islaam I don't have the flyer on me, but go to eklektic and get one there, BOH. OK, and all I have to say is that DJ Pilgrim and MC Dub live at Universe in I am guessing 1992 sometime is the greatest tape ever, and I am addicted to Slipmatt amen chipmunk vocal tunes, please. WHISTLE CREW! HOW THE BLOODY HELL ARE YOU. big up MC Sphinx for the tape. The only thing that comes close is Dieselboy and MC Mike Bee live in Lexington 1993, with the classic "I've never felt this way before...have you? BASS! SUPA BASS!" Also, did you know that your mom is so fucked up she lip syncs to the ice cream truck? 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 20:58:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1163 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 20:58:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 1142 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 20:58:44 -0000 Received: from pohl.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 20:58:44 -0000 Received: from godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.43]) by pohl.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id QAA11767; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:53:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id QAA13025; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:53:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:53:34 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu To: Madhvi Dalal cc: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: FREEDOM!! In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990513131821.006b9ff0@mail.ixpres.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk freedom (according to the pre-flyer and from past expirience) is going to be july 3 and 4th, in who-knows-where, ca and for most people will be a one night event over two days (although i have had other poeple tell me they came up the night before but i think they were helping out/knew someone involved.) if i'm wrong, let me know, but i think that's the way it usually is. but if it's at the same location as last year i'm not going - my car made it up there once, i'm not about to try my luck again. much love, amber --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 21:00:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4922 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 21:00:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 4745 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 21:00:51 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?tX8b4WU+feort4n2Z+bR1H+jjy0JaTXY?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 21:00:51 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id OAA10165; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:00:41 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:00:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: WHISTLE CREW! HOW THE BLOODY HELL ARE YOU? , method1@neteze.com, sf-jungle@saturn5.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: I forgot to say I am MCing a first light... BSPee In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > nighttime: First Light > with (a fantastic lineup in all three rooms) > Hak & Siphon (Urban Assault) > Rinse & Flux (Compound Records, B.A.S.S. Kru) > Protolab (live PA...I saw them finally, WICKED) > Micron YEAH AND ME SO WHAT > > at 2nd and Jackson BOH BOH BOH > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 21:02:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6531 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 21:01:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 6259 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 21:01:48 -0000 Received: from web108.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.75) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 21:01:48 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513210211.4830.rocketmail@web108.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web108.yahoomail.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:02:11 PDT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:02:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: RACES IN ANY SCENE To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk And if you would have said anything about have a little alligator on their collard shirts I would have had an horrid flash back. oops--did I date myself =Þ *HUGZ* pat --- Space201@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/13/99 1:38:30 PM Pacific > Daylight Time, > mdalal@ixpres.com writes: > > << Most Indian kidz i know wanna hang > out, get drunk, listen to bad hip-hop, and > date/fuck each other. They all > travel in HUGE-ass groups, the girls are usually > hanging out discussing the > merits of this one boy or dissing another girl, the > boyz are hanging out > talking about what hot shit they are and how they'd > like to fuck all the > girlz. >> > > > Sorry to make an obvious point, but I think that > would hold for any race of > people! > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 21:02:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6653 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 21:02:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 6381 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 21:01:52 -0000 Received: from law-f242.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.207) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 21:01:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 13678 invoked by uid 0); 13 May 1999 21:01:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513210126.13677.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.214.230 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:01:25 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.214.230] From: "K Gray" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Some interesting tidbit from the socal rave list Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:01:25 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This post, for example, makes me want to hug Amber. Max's post made me want to hug his Salvadorean lesbian soccer-playing self. Words are powerful. Love is a drug. K > >well, to shed some light on an asnwer to your question, e can give people >thoughts of bisexulaity but those thoughts would already be in their >heads to begin with, maybe burried somewhere, but they were there >already. e does make you want to give hugs cuz it feels GRRRRREAT! to >hug things on e. hell the first time i ever did it i danced with a >carpeted pole for 3 hours, but that's just me :) it's not necessarily >that you're having "bi" thoughts if you are on e and you want to hug >someone, even of the same sex, for a long time. it just means it feels >good to hug someone. it feels good to hug someone for a long time when >you're sober too, guy or girl. a drug is not going to MAKE you bisexual >or gay/lesbian, but it might bring out such feelings that you didn't >know where there but are a very real and special part of a person that >shouldn't be ignored. there are also going to be the poeple who don't >have these feelings at all, and that's alright too, but they may still >come up and give you huge bear hugs. it doesn't mean they are attracted >to you - it just menas they are doing something that makes them (and it >should make you) feel good. > >much love, >amber From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 21:07:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13731 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 21:07:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 13469 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 21:06:52 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 21:06:52 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com (14384) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iDLJa02625; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:40:45 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:40:45 EDT Subject: Re: Some interesting tidbit from the socal rave list To: nngo@velos.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Netmail sub 2 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I don't think it makes you TURN bi or gay.. just the good feelings eminated from it might make it okay to you at the time tho.. you know? amber r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 21:11:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18235 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 21:11:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 18226 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 21:11:20 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 21:11:20 -0000 Received: from Sera13@aol.com (7996) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iZAQa10990; Thu, 13 May 1999 17:03:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Sera13@aol.com Message-ID: <8210d85f.246c9804@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 17:03:00 EDT Subject: Re: Some interesting tidbit from the socal rave list To: nngo@velos.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk calm down...... my vibe is a okay. you try having three finals in one day and then reading something stupid like this about E. no hard feelings.....(only hard bass.....i can not wait) but it is all over, happy day is the 13th of may..... be home soon. so relax, everything will be okay.... from, o/o From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 21:14:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20433 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 21:14:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 20418 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 21:14:50 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 21:14:50 -0000 Received: from user (AM5-68-52-250.ixpres.com [209.75.52.250]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA81976; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990513141027.006ca5d0@mail.ixpres.com> X-Sender: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:10:27 -0700 To: Space201@aol.com, mohan@funkytekno.net, nngo@velos.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: Re: RACES IN ANY SCENE In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yeah, that's true, but i'm specifically referring to mine. At 04:49 PM 5/13/99 EDT, Space201@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 5/13/99 1:38:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >mdalal@ixpres.com writes: > ><< Most Indian kidz i know wanna hang > out, get drunk, listen to bad hip-hop, and date/fuck each other. They all > travel in HUGE-ass groups, the girls are usually hanging out discussing the > merits of this one boy or dissing another girl, the boyz are hanging out > talking about what hot shit they are and how they'd like to fuck all the > girlz. >> > > >Sorry to make an obvious point, but I think that would hold for any race of >people! > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 21:15:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21232 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 21:15:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 21196 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 21:15:21 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 21:15:21 -0000 Received: from Sera13@aol.com (7996) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vZIDa09693 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 17:14:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Sera13@aol.com Message-ID: <15658fa3.246c9aab@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 17:14:19 EDT Subject: Re: Some interesting tidbit from the socal rave list To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk sorry kiddos didn't mean for this to reach you all again..... bye for now o/o From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 21:16:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21971 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 21:15:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 21951 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 21:15:55 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 21:15:55 -0000 Received: from user (AM5-68-52-250.ixpres.com [209.75.52.250]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA82209; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990513141133.006ca4d0@mail.ixpres.com> X-Sender: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:11:33 -0700 To: unclenoah From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: Re: RACES IN ANY SCENE Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.3.32.19990513133324.006bb278@mail.ixpres.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk SISTER madhvi :-)))) hugz madhvi the girleee At 01:53 PM 5/13/99 -0700, unclenoah wrote: > > >i'm right with you, brother Madhvi! i'm sure as hell not color blind and >i hope that folks looking at me aren't either! we all have so many >wonderful things to share that are rooted in our race, our ethnicity and >our cultures that we are denying ourselves and each other a wealth of >experiences if we choose to simply ignore these factors in favor of an >easier way of dealing with large groups of people. what works is >integration and sharing and we've all got something to share. an i mean >*everyone* has something to share... i've heard too many white folks tell >me "oh, i'm white. i've got no culture." bullshit! your ancestors have >a whole continent full of culture across the atlantic, and then another >507 years of culture over here! so white folks aren't excused from this. :o) >we need to love ourselves, love our differences and love what we have to >share. it's when you stop trying to share and you *let* people cluster >into their own little groups that things start to break down. if we each >take an active role and make a point of getting to know people who seem >to be slipping away, then we'll have nothing to fear. uncle noah says, >"Everybody needs love!" > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- >"Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or >death." - Casey Brackley >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now >info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions 714.558.7626 >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 21:16:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22857 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 21:16:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 22792 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 21:16:27 -0000 Received: from web808.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 21:16:27 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513211929.25430.rocketmail@web808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.180.76.16] by web808.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:19:29 PDT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:19:29 -0700 (PDT) From: loic comolli Subject: Re: Review of Gianni's Mixtape To: HppyXTC@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i sooooooo agree with you. i've played that tape 1,000 times since i got it. plus it's got "enjoy the silence," which is a great track. everybody, get that tape!! loic --- HppyXTC@aol.com wrote: > Well, since Gianni so kindly kicked me down with a > copy of his mixtape, I > thought the least I could do is review it and give > him some free advertising! > So... > > THIS TAPE KICKS ASS! It is his tape from Rebirth on > 1/23/99. The whole tape > is upbeat and very well put together. He constantly > is trapping you in these > wonderful build ups that keep going and going until > you want to scream! And > then they keep going! Parts of it you can hear the > crowd screaming and that > just adds to the excitement. The choices of tracks > are great too. All of > them are funky and happy tracks that keep your feet > tapping. He manipulates > each track into a wonderful mix with a style that is > definetly his. > > All in all, it is a wonderful tape and I would > recommend it to anyone! It > definetly is one of my favorite tapes now! Thanks > again Gianni! > > Love, Heather > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 21:17:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24050 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 21:17:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 24029 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 21:17:26 -0000 Received: from law-f15.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 21:17:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 18864 invoked by uid 0); 13 May 1999 20:55:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513205544.18863.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.170.187.247 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:55:44 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.170.187.247] From: "michael waldren" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR: My top 10 and stuff Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:55:44 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Tupac Gang Starr Outkast Journeymen Dj Quik KRS One Naughty by Nature Method Man DMX Kotton Mouth Kings From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 21:19:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25763 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 21:19:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 25753 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 21:19:06 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 21:19:06 -0000 Received: from user (AM5-68-52-250.ixpres.com [209.75.52.250]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA82720; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:19:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990513141446.006c523c@mail.ixpres.com> X-Sender: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:14:46 -0700 To: Kandehata@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: Re: RACES IN ANY SCENE In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk DIDN'T I SAY "MOST" not ALL? please read thoroughly b4 taking offense...& remember, opinions come stem from people's own personal experiences. hugs madhvi At 04:55 PM 5/13/99 EDT, Kandehata@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 5/13/99 1:54:31 PM PDT, Kandehata writes: > > << Most Indian kidz i know wanna hang > out, get drunk, listen to bad hip-hop, and date/fuck each other. They all > travel in HUGE-ass groups, the girls are usually hanging out discussing the > merits of this one boy or dissing another girl, the boyz are hanging out > talking about what hot shit they are and how they'd like to fuck all the > girlz. >> > > hey wait a min...... im INDIAN and i dont get drunk all the time and i dont >listen to "bad hip-hop" and i MOST DEFENITELY DONT FUK OR DATE EVERYONE???we >leave that up to some peeps in our scene...but we wont go there......but ya >us indians do like to travel in fat packs od peopel that way if we want we >can have our own pow wow in the street....something like a party?????ya! > > hahah > > A > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 21:36:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7755 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 21:36:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 7724 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 21:36:32 -0000 Received: from web805.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 21:36:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513214121.23622.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web805.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:41:21 PDT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:41:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: WMC and freestyle classics article on amazon.com To: Max McCauley , Megatron45@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Its all about Johnny O... --- Max McCauley wrote: > > > On Thu, 13 May 1999 Megatron45@aol.com wrote: > > > ...my all time favorite "When I Hear Music" by > Debbie Deb > > > > Jellybean, TKA, Jocelyn Enriquez, Stevie B, and > Expose) > > > WHY DID NO ONE MENTION LIL SUZIE?!!?@ I love Lil > Suzie. Man, take me > back to my days of getting kicked out of Great > America all day with season > passes hidden in our shoes, brocking out to > freestyle with the South Bay > hotties. And man, nothing you will ever see is as > sexy as clubs in Texas > with like 400 thousand Tejanas chuscas getting LOOSE > to the stuff. Well, > I guess I've never been to a proper Miami bass type > party. > > 10-4, > duh, > max > > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 21:46:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14008 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 21:46:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 13988 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 21:46:46 -0000 Received: from m3.jersey.juno.com (209.67.33.61) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 21:46:46 -0000 Received: (from californiadiver@juno.com) by m3.jersey.juno.com (queuemail) id EAJF32HS; Thu, 13 May 1999 17:44:35 EDT To: whtrabt@ix.netcom.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:04:02 -0700 Subject: Re: NRR: Other types of music Message-ID: <19990513.144418.-420245.1.californiadiver@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: californiadiver@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I like mostly hard rock music, but there is other stuff here, too. But it's all good. KoRn is my favorite! Deftones T.S.O.L. Limp Bizkit LAPD Videodrone Ultraspank The Doors Sex Art Duran Duran LD50 Sepultura Dead Kennedys Pink Floyd Marilyn Manson Fear Factory Metallica Rob Zombie -Erica (i'm not californiadiver) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 21:49:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15877 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 21:49:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 15835 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 21:49:36 -0000 Received: from web803.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.63) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 21:49:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513215513.3350.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web803.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:55:13 PDT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:55:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: Some interesting tidbit from the socal rave list To: MacBunny , Nick Ngo Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have just discovered some reasons why people may become bisexual, i still want to examine these reasons much closer, but i dont think it has to do with e at all , i think it has a lot to do with emotions, and that kinda stuff. ??jb --- MacBunny wrote: > well, to shed some light on an asnwer to your > question, e can give people > thoughts of bisexulaity but those thoughts would > already be in their > heads to begin with, maybe burried somewhere, but > they were there > already. e does make you want to give hugs cuz it > feels GRRRRREAT! to > hug things on e. hell the first time i ever did it > i danced with a > carpeted pole for 3 hours, but that's just me :) > it's not necessarily > that you're having "bi" thoughts if you are on e and > you want to hug > someone, even of the same sex, for a long time. it > just means it feels > good to hug someone. it feels good to hug someone > for a long time when > you're sober too, guy or girl. a drug is not going > to MAKE you bisexual > or gay/lesbian, but it might bring out such feelings > that you didn't > know where there but are a very real and special > part of a person that > shouldn't be ignored. there are also going to be > the poeple who don't > have these feelings at all, and that's alright too, > but they may still > come up and give you huge bear hugs. it doesn't > mean they are attracted > to you - it just menas they are doing something that > makes them (and it > should make you) feel good. > > much love, > amber > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know > what you don't know, > is the characteristic of one who knows." > > amber perry-mcquown > > akp2@acpub.duke.edu > amber@earthling.net > amber@marin.cc.ca.us > > http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 21:56:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20723 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 21:56:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 20524 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 21:56:13 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 21:56:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.9.3/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA28077; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:56:06 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-Sender: andy@atari To: Max McCauley cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: hahahahah gettin RAND-E widdit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 13 May 1999, Max McCauley wrote: -&e->IF...I get all frisky, it doesn't make the repressed hairdresser (which is -&e->there) come out and kiss boys. It is more like...the curly haired -&e->Salvadorean soccer playing lesbian inside me comes out and wants some -&e->love. DO NOT PISS HER OFF OR HARSH HER MELLOW VIBE, KISS HER/ME. Gooooooooooooooool! God damn I need to get in touch with my Salvadorean futbol playing inner lesbian (or are you just trying to trick me into kissing you Max?)! -&e->That is all. I'm alright with that. In all honesty, I think E helps people get over certain phobias and fears. If you have repressed tendencies, it could either help bring them forth, or as you notice them coming forth, it might cause one to bury them deeper. It's psycho-shrinky stuff I'd rather not get into, but the combination of a very relaxed and confortable state combined with a will to make meaningful emotional bonds with others could really open some avenues that you never considered. I'd recommend setting your limits beforehand if you feel it's an issue (this reminds me of an awesome story about a friend I took to a rave for his first time, and he takes E and starts panicing cause the thinks every one is looking at his ass, and that all the guys have hard ons and are staring at him... so imagine what everybody else thinks of this guy trying to explain his shit to me thining everyone ELSE is crazy *which is always a bad sign*, pointing at people's crotches and screaming and holding onto me... gotta love drugs). My weird outta control behavior experience is pretty much limited to having my leg felt up by jungle DJs, and suddenly realizing I've been making out with a 16 year old (of course not YOUR daughter sir) after thinking I was walking around in a dream in an abstract Aztec landscape, but your mileage may vary. As for the hugs going longer than usual, I wouldn't worry about it unless they are accompanied by a regular pelvic thrusting motion. Just cause someone loves you doesn't mean they wanna freak you. :) SWAK, AndyW <- the crack of dawn is not safe people. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 21:58:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23922 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 21:58:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 23896 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 21:58:40 -0000 Received: from law-f196.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.106) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 21:58:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 57434 invoked by uid 0); 13 May 1999 21:58:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513215813.57433.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.173.232.119 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:58:12 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.173.232.119] From: "ro ro" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: An Asian/Thuggish lookin junglist speaks! Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:58:12 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk **I hope my little insight sheds some kind of light on this Asian/Thug Invasion thang. I am new to the "scene" and first fell in love with jungle (and the scene) on Halloween night last year at 1015. I started out at 1015 on Saturday nights, but now I'm usually at Home Base. I started out going to these parties with my lil crew (I dressed up like a gangster for Halloween - but it's what I wear everyday!) and I wasn't there slangin, either (but people kept asking me to sell them E). If you ever catch me at a party, you'll find that I'm actually a nice guy. I guess you can say that I've slowly converted from the thug looking me to the friendly junglist looking (what's that?) me over the past 8 months. I still look like a thug in the day, but I look friendlier at a party. "Why don't you stop dressing/looking like a thug in the day?" I can't help it, it's the real me. I grew up in an environment where you have to look/dress/act this way. Even some friends think I look like a thug, but that's just the way I look. One day, I'll be able to dress like the stereotypical brand name wearing pretty boy asian... HELL NAW!!! ...that's not me... If you see an asian-looking-thug at Solid Grooves listening to jungle mixtapes, that's me. Yes, I prefer to go to parties with my friends (and yes, we all look asian (or pilipino if you can make the distinction)). Why do we go together? Why does anyone go anywhere with anybody or group of people? We can all answer this question. I go with my friends, because it brings me that much closer to my friends. Yes, we set up camp (usually in the jungle room) and make sure someone is guarding our stuff. Besides being the spot for leaving your stuff, so that you can go off and dance or roam the whole place, it is also a place to rest (for tired legs & feet or for those who are rollin). Please don't stereotype, it makes the thug in me mad. I guess because of my background, I have no problem with the thug lookin people in our scene. I know how to handle them, but I doubt others do. What happens is that the stereotypical thug = drugs,fights,bang bang you're dead and others don't see them as anything else but this. Yes, they might be trying to sell you some rat poison or they might look at you all hardcore-thug style, but grow a fat nutsack and say "HI Mr. Gangster!" If they bite, I'll beat their ass and throw them out. j/k. For realz though, if you act scared or don't say hello when you pass them by, it makes them feel less accepted and more likely to snap at the candy ravers. This whole asian/thug lookin thing is a lot deeper than what anybody thinks... go take a sociology class or something, or kick it with me and my thugs at a rave. We won't kick your ass. --Rommel From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 21:59:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24676 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 21:59:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 24657 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 21:59:09 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 21:59:09 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (8025) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3TBSa24274 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 17:57:56 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <89d6838e.246ca4e4@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 17:57:56 EDT Subject: Re: Trance and Jungle Factory is a crock of shit To: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/12/99 10:52:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mjohan@uclink4.berkeley.edu writes: << >Warning to everyone. The Trance and Jungle Factory SUCKS! ! ! ! ! Save your >money DON'T FUCKING GO THERE! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! >> YOu can't get in there.. it's never open. Trust me, I've checked =) Thomas!! let me in! hugs, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 22:04:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27910 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 22:04:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 27844 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 22:04:25 -0000 Received: from colo01-033.xoom.com (HELO www2.xoommail.com) (206.132.179.33) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 22:04:25 -0000 Received: (from service@localhost) by www2.xoommail.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07640; Thu, 13 May 1999 15:04:23 -0700 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:04:23 -0700 Message-Id: <199905132204.PAA07640@www2.xoommail.com> X-Loop: xoommail.com From: Matt -RED Organization: FCK Subject: Re: Hippies At Raves To: erave@xoommail.com, ericm@cnet.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey there, Well obviously everyone of us could learn something from the person beside us. That is not what I was stating, however. What I was getting at, without actually having to say it, is that we are pretty much just a richer form of hippy. Give a lot more extremism as well. We share lots of the same qualities (ravers & hippies) but I see it more in the candy ravers than in the run of the mill "i want to go out and get f'ed up" 'raver'. Anyhow, take care & *hugs* Matthew "Eric Moser" wrote: > Whenever you fool yourself into thinking that you don't have anything to > learn from somebody, you're usually pretty far off ;^) > > We all (collectively and individually) have a lot to learn from each other. > And, hippies have more to offer ravers than just their hugging experience. > The hippy culture was/is in a similar situation that modern ravers are in (a > misunderstood sub-culture that thrives on alternative viewpoints; lovers of > psychedelic music that inspires ecstatic dancing; group problems with > stigmatized drug use and common drug abuse; a general disposition towards > love, respect, and acceptance that the mainstream doesn't really share; > etc.) > > I continue to see ravers as a newer iteration of hippies (...who were an > iteration themselves of other sub-cultures...) There are a lot of paralells > between the two groups... and the hippies have been doing it for a long, > long, long time. Even young hippies (like myself) have benefited from that > experience. I think looking at the "peace and love, man" aspect of the > hippy culture really simplifies things. > > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Matt -RED > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Thursday, May 13, 1999 10:38 AM > Subject: Re: Hippies At Raves > > > >What type of raver are you talking about? Some ravers are PLUR and already > do all > >that hugging. Some ravers are anti-plur or don't go by those "guidelines" > at all > >and that's their take on things. What do we have to learn from you though? > > > >We know how to hug and be friendly... > > > >-Matthew > > > >BodhiInSF@aol.com wrote: > > > Speaking of the many diverse people who go to raves, what about > hippies at > > > raves? Always smilling, always willing to give a stranger hugs. We bring > in > > > the absolute acceptance of all people and love for everyone. If anyone > has > > > ever been to a rainbow gathering, or camped out with hippies, we always > > > depart from each other with a great big hug, and with the words, "loving > you > > > brother/sister!" Nobody usualy steals (if it ever happens, it is so > rare), > > > and sharing is so routine. No judgement, no deliberate negative > attitudes, > > > and yes, most of us take baths, for christ's sake!, and were pretty > tollerant > > > and open about anybody and anything, as long as it's positive. Isn't > this > > > the type of values that are so needed in the rave scene? Ravers have > alot to > > > learn from hippies! > > > Loving all of you! ---Bodhi > > > > > > > > >Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com > >Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting > >cards for any occassion at http://greetings.xoom.com > > > > > > > > - 2000 is around the corner...promise me you'll stop the bullshit(i.e: complaining, arguing, being a total dick, etc) & just have fuN :D! Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occassion at http://greetings.xoom.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 22:07:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 690 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 22:07:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 679 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 22:07:18 -0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 22:07:18 -0000 Received: from fish.hooked.net (byoung@fish.hooked.net [206.80.6.48]) by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA09190; Thu, 13 May 1999 15:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:07:15 -0700 (PDT) From: boing X-Sender: byoung@fish.hooked.net To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com cc: Sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Trance and Jungle Factory is a crock of shit In-Reply-To: <89d6838e.246ca4e4@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 13 May 1999 TeKnODiVa@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/12/99 10:52:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > mjohan@uclink4.berkeley.edu writes: > > << >Warning to everyone. The Trance and Jungle Factory SUCKS! ! ! ! ! Save > your > >money DON'T FUCKING GO THERE! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! >> > > YOu can't get in there.. it's never open. Trust me, I've checked =) > Thomas!! let me in! ask joaqman. he seems like nice fellow, he not only suck, but he swallows too. (what else was it, gurgling and whatnot) ;-P b- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 22:22:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10704 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 22:22:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 10695 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 22:22:27 -0000 Received: from netcom13.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.125) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 22:22:27 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom13.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id PAA10778; Thu, 13 May 1999 15:22:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:22:23 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Re: RACES IN ANY SCENE To: Madhvi Dalal cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990513141133.006ca4d0@mail.ixpres.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk sorry sister! :D On Thu, 13 May 1999, Madhvi Dalal wrote: > > SISTER madhvi > > :-)))) > > > hugz > > madhvi the girleee > > At 01:53 PM 5/13/99 -0700, unclenoah wrote: > > > > > >i'm right with you, brother Madhvi! i'm sure as hell not color blind and > >i hope that folks looking at me aren't either! we all have so many > >wonderful things to share that are rooted in our race, our ethnicity and > >our cultures that we are denying ourselves and each other a wealth of > >experiences if we choose to simply ignore these factors in favor of an > >easier way of dealing with large groups of people. what works is > >integration and sharing and we've all got something to share. an i mean > >*everyone* has something to share... i've heard too many white folks tell > >me "oh, i'm white. i've got no culture." bullshit! your ancestors have > >a whole continent full of culture across the atlantic, and then another > >507 years of culture over here! so white folks aren't excused from this. :o) > >we need to love ourselves, love our differences and love what we have to > >share. it's when you stop trying to share and you *let* people cluster > >into their own little groups that things start to break down. if we each > >take an active role and make a point of getting to know people who seem > >to be slipping away, then we'll have nothing to fear. uncle noah says, > >"Everybody needs love!" > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- > >"Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or > >death." - Casey Brackley > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > >GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now > >info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions 714.558.7626 > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 22:43:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21884 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 22:43:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 21791 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 22:43:48 -0000 Received: from law2-f101.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.101) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 22:43:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 7214 invoked by uid 0); 13 May 1999 22:43:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513224317.7213.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.149.167.15 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 May 1999 15:43:17 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.149.167.15] From: "didu hearthat" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Passions for your genre (HL) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:43:17 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk (hl= hella late) rashida here. just responding to this one on favorite genres. and i must say my standard answer used to be "I LOVE EVERYTHING!" but the truth is, there are certain things that my make me feel more deeply than others, so here they are. #1 (right now) dark, furious, relentless drum-n-bass (ie: any ufo!/abstract/echo/e-sassin/subcode tracks mainly) it just rips through me when i'm dancing and i like to be taken over by sounds like that #2 slowed down miami bass/hip hop ... i usually hafta slow it down myself on the turntable and then i sing over it. just you wait. it's the next big thang! :D #3 deep gospel-type house...with those crazy piano chords that go roll into my heart, shoot down to feet (which are then unable to do anything BUT dance), then unfold inside of me to eventually come back out my mouth through song. sheesh. (i am super into chords) whelp. for dancey stuff. that's the main stuff i've been into for the past couple months. but mind you, i still listen to fucking everything! more on that in the top 10... woooohoooo. peace and love, shida bida pumkin eata (that angel gal) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 22:49:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24686 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 22:49:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 24676 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 22:49:43 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 22:49:43 -0000 Received: from ckc-114-97 (ckc-114-97.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.114.97]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA11547; Thu, 13 May 1999 15:49:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990513154438.009c0130@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: mjohan@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:46:54 -0700 To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, Sfraves@hyperreal.org From: cta Subject: Re: Trance and Jungle Factory is a crock of shit In-Reply-To: <89d6838e.246ca4e4@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I DIDN'T POST THAT!!! I RESPONDED TO IT!! My message was this: I checked past posts-- the person that posted this message was also responsible for posting a very tasteless joke about a week or two ago. Probably just looking for attention. At 11:56 PM 5/12/99 -0400, Laalkuchaa@aol.com wrote: >Warning to everyone. The Trance and Jungle Factory SUCKS! ! ! ! ! Save your >money DON'T FUCKING GO THERE! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Please do not give me credit for this person's gripes. Thanks- Matt At 05:57 PM 5/13/99 -0400, TeKnODiVa@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 5/12/99 10:52:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >mjohan@uclink4.berkeley.edu writes: > ><< >Warning to everyone. The Trance and Jungle Factory SUCKS! ! ! ! ! Save >your > >money DON'T FUCKING GO THERE! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! >> > >YOu can't get in there.. it's never open. Trust me, I've checked =) >Thomas!! let me in! > >hugs, >trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 22:51:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26455 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 22:51:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 26447 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 22:51:37 -0000 Received: from web806.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 22:51:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513225018.25715.rocketmail@web806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.99] by web806.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 15:50:18 PDT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:50:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Nrr: Tattoo places in SF!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think this has been brought up before on the list, but im feenin for a bleedin does anyone know any good, safe tatoo parlors/artists in the city, i have been dying to get a tattoo lately and i will be in the city this evening anyway, so does anyone have any recommendations???? Thanks, Jess Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 22:53:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27973 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 22:53:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 27923 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 22:53:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 22:53:32 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 185 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 15:50:52 -0700 Message-ID: <373B580D.8879C961@hrg.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:54:06 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFraves peeps Subject: BSP: MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey peeps, wanted to let everyone know that Full Moon is gonna be goin on Sunday night, May 30th were gonna be celebrating the arrival of summer, as well as the birthdays of all the Geminis :) the line up- onionz (chocolate factory, nyc) rob doten (wicked/greyhound records) taj (spundae) david coleman and sen-sei (kinetic grooves) john rodriguez tj eric erickson this is a FREE party 415 339 8015 http://www.sfhouse.com this is the beginning of the last summer of the millenium...lets make it special From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 23:01:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1237 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 23:01:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 1226 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 23:01:56 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 23:01:56 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (548) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vIJCa16144 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 18:59:51 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <3ccbbaaa.246cb357@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:59:35 EDT Subject: Re: Hippies At Raves To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk raves=hippies + technology From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 23:18:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10319 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 23:18:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 10285 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 23:18:40 -0000 Received: from law2-f13.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.13) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 23:18:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 12626 invoked by uid 0); 13 May 1999 23:18:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513231813.12625.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.149.167.15 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:18:13 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.149.167.15] From: "didu hearthat" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Short list Top 10 (HL) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:18:13 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk (hl=hella late) howdy, rashida here. okee pokee. the only way i could do this is taking the 10 shits i am listening to RIGHT NOW! seriously loved ones, music is so everything to me, but i can tell you my favorite group of all time is Art of Noise. Everything else i just love a lot. And am almost always able to listen to, like i don't have to be in a certain mood to bust out my 70's love songs or my descedants or my mary j. blige...i like it all...all the time. sigh... 1. Art of Noise - "Daft" i am only here now, because of their beats. 2. Eddie Def - "Wax People" this cd affirms my belief that all music was born out of each other 3. Foo Fighters - "Foo Fighters" dave grohl is my boyfriend. his wife don't like it, but ehhh 4. Cardigans - "The Other Side of the Moon" rare gems. the sound of pure pop perfection 5. Quasi - "Featuring Birds" more pop deliciousness 6. Ruins - "Burning Stone" japanese noise exploration madness. woooohhhooooo! 7. Morrissey - "Viva Hate" so fun to sing with. so sad. 8. The Beach Boys - "20/20" the drugs and spirituality were all seepin into the music. it worked. 9. Shawn Colvin- "Fat City" beautiful, thoughtful melodies. a role model. 10. Audio Two - "What More Can I Say?" 88 was the year. best beats from all around. these are a few that won't ever die. peace and love... la la shida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 23:23:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12835 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 23:23:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 12794 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 23:22:59 -0000 Received: from ww187.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.87) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 23:22:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 29361 invoked by uid 60001); 13 May 1999 23:22:58 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513232258.29360.qmail@ww187.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.87 by ww187 via web-mailer(M3.0.0.118) on Thu May 13 23:22:57 GMT 1999 Date: 13 May 99 16:22:57 PDT From: Stuart Sung To: Jess ica , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [Nrr: Tattoo places in SF!!] X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.118) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Jess ica wrote: > I think this has been brought up before on the list, but im feenin for > a bleedin does anyone know any good, safe tatoo parlors/artists in the > city, i have been dying to get a tattoo lately and i will be in the > city this evening anyway, so does anyone have any recommendations???? > = > Thanks, > Jess > = > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com Try 222 Tattoo in the City on 8th street 255-8222 ask for Jeff Raiser doe= s excellent work at reasonable price. Stu = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D And your crybaby whiny-assed opinion would be...? Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 23:36:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22741 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 23:36:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 22731 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 23:36:50 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 23:36:50 -0000 Received: from BGChris420@aol.com (8032) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vKUDa02053 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 19:35:59 -0400 (EDT) From: BGChris420@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 19:35:59 EDT Subject: Brand new to the scene To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, First i'd like to introduce myself. My name is Chris ("hi, hello, how you doin?"). I've been on this list for a couple of days now but I haven't been posting anything. I do read all of your e-mail and I'd like to say, "WOW"!!!!!!! you guys are intelligent. I mean really you are. No bullshit. The stuff that I read is enlightening and powerful. Educational even. And damn some of you use some hella big ass words. Hell, I'm 21 and sometimes I need a dictionary to understand what y'all are talking about. But thats probably cuz I keep rotting my brain with pot. But its good for you though :op But enough of the brown-nosing :oO...woops!, did I say that out loud. Sorry, just kidding. But on the serious side. I just turned 21 not to long ago and my friend took me to my first rave for my b-day. I was a little intimidated cuz i was never much of a party person. I had never been to a club or even a party with more than 10 people (and those people would be close friends). I also never really liked to dance. So, yeah I was a little scared, 'specially since he told me that there was going to be hundreds of people there. But on to my point. I was totally impressed by the scene. The vibe. The attitude. The dancing and especially the MUSIC. I have totally fallen in love with the music. I have yet to find out more about the music and all of the different types. When we got there i pretty much held up a wall. But after a little while (i was sober then) the beats started to flow into my head and all through my body and all i could do was dance. Mind you that this is the first time i had ever danced in my life. I couldn't believe it. I hadn't felt that great in... actually i had never felt that great. I had also dropped some E for the first time too and that too was GGRRRRREEAATT!!!!!! WOW!!! I was especially impressed when i was sitting on the floor ( i was at my peak and i just wanted to be touched). But anyway, I was on the floor sitting and everyone that walked by was kicking my foot but they would totally stop and apologize and i thought "people everyday bump into you, trip over your feet or anything like that and never do they once stop to say I'm sorry." Here at this place called a rave everyone did. I totally understand what you guys mean by PLUR. After we had left all i wanted to do was dance. The beats were still flowing through my body and mind. I couldnt get them out. Im glad i stopped trying after a while cuz i really dug it. It was wierd, we had left and my brain felt like it had opened up as wide as it could. I was pretty open-minded to begin with and i couldnt stop talking. I conversed with the cab driver all the way back home. Was that because of the E? But I really just wanted to say that I had the best time of my life and i would most definetly love to do it again. I dont want to do it too much cuz i dont want it to get old fast. I would also love to make new friends that like to party. I live in Hayward, over by Oakland, Fremont, Union City, just in case some of you didnt know where Hayward is. If there be any of you that live close to home and would like to make friends with a really cool and friendly lesbian ( oh yeah i forgot to mention that, hope none of you have problems with that ) write me and ill get back to you. I would also like it if you guys could maybe send me some web sites or something where i can download some music so i can learn and listen to all of the different kinds. Sorry if i kept rambling but i cant stop talking about my first rave experience. My friends are getting tired of hearing about it. Thanx for taking the time out to read this (if you got this far), Peace, Chris "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." --- Dr. Seuss From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 23:38:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24369 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 23:38:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 24359 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 23:38:28 -0000 Received: from f67.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.207) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 23:38:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 31327 invoked by uid 0); 13 May 1999 23:38:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513233800.31326.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 152.163.197.193 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:37:59 PDT X-Originating-IP: [152.163.197.193] From: "Rani Skye Lefevre" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: paging gerlando Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:37:59 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk sorry for the spam.... gerlando, i honestly can't send you anything through hotmail; their mailer daemon keeps returning my messages. damn! this is pissing me off. uh, your address is gpx1@pcgr.com, right? i have not forgotten about you- i think i told you before that i could only reply to messages sent by you... i don't know what's going on here! i'm definately not a computer whiz, but this is ridiculous! -rani From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 23:43:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26735 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 23:43:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 26559 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 23:42:49 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd107.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.171) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 23:42:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 34214 invoked by uid 0); 13 May 1999 23:43:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513234339.34213.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 199.86.13.14 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:43:39 PDT X-Originating-IP: [199.86.13.14] From: "Jess ica" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: PAGING DaDope Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:43:39 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk whats up theresa, i lost your pager # again, only about the millionth time, you should write it on a dollar bill again ;) PAGE me if you get this before 8, 408-699-7997 SORRY TO SPAM YA GUYS heh, Jess From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 23:48:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1189 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 23:48:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 1180 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 23:48:40 -0000 Received: from table.jps.net (209.63.224.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 23:48:40 -0000 Received: (from madhav@localhost) by table.jps.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) id QAA14091; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:48:30 -0700 (PDT) From: madhav@table.jps.net Message-Id: <199905132348.QAA14091@table.jps.net> Subject: Re: RACES IN ANY SCENE To: mdalal@ixpres.com (Madhvi Dalal) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:48:30 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990513133324.006bb278@mail.ixpres.com> from "Madhvi Dalal" at May 13, 99 01:33:24 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Madhvi, as a fellow "desi", I feel compelled to reply with my $4.20: Your blunt portrayal of the Indian American scene is true for the most part. I especially agree with the "cliquishness" of some Indians here... and I'm partially at fault since I have been sucked in by these groups myself-- some of which you may despise: Network of Indian Professionals (netip.org) - total "meat-market" I've been trying to get away from that scene lately... you're right about the reverse racism; in an ideal world there would be no race, no organized religion (you choose your own path), and no bad vibes... but we can't change our group or other groups' attitudes overnight. I've always celebrated diversity and in college I loved going to parties at our International house, the black student association, Korean Student Assoc., ISA, etc. I've been in the rave scene since '92 when I was going to school on the East Coast, and recently, I've been trying to get more Indians into the scene here in SF. You should check out the party I helped to throw at 111 Minna St last Saturday... Ancient Vibes for a New Millenium: http://www.chaat.org/mayhem -- our DJs mixed drum n bass w/ tabla and sitar a la Talvin Singh :) We had such a diverse crowd-- I was really happy to see my Indian friends mixing with the regular 111 Minna St crowd (quite diverse). We'll be throwing another party next month... if we get enough demand, we'll get a warehouse and start our own production group. Here's to Unity in Diversity! PLUR, -Madhav :-) > hey kidz, > > Well, i wasn't going to respond to this thread, but then i figured, what > the hell, my $.02 could be interesting. > > Okay, i'm indian (as in India indian) born there, lived there for a few > years, but mostly an all-american kid. Here's the thing: What bugs the > shit outta me is when ANY race of people hang out together, ONLY w/ each > other, keep to themselves, and look at you as an intruder should u try to > talk to them. I HARDLY see any Indians in the rave scene, and i've been > partying for nearly a fucking decade. Most Indian kidz i know wanna hang > out, get drunk, listen to bad hip-hop, and date/fuck each other. They all > travel in HUGE-ass groups, the girls are usually hanging out discussing the > merits of this one boy or dissing another girl, the boyz are hanging out > talking about what hot shit they are and how they'd like to fuck all the > girlz. Sounds a bit like a scary fraternity/sorority party, no? These > people are not my friends, i don't like their attitude/philosphy of reverse > racism and it bugs me that they all need to hang out en masse b/c if it > were just a couple of them they might wither away & die. They don't listen > to the soul inside of themselves, and b/c of this they miss so much. SO > relating this to the Asian Invasion: > > I think that everyone's misunderstanding what Nick was trying to ask/say. > It's not about "EWWW, i'm sick of this asian invasion and let's keep it to > the white kidz". It's more like, what's this collective group that keeps > to themselves and doesn't feel the need to reach out to anyone else? And > when i say this, i refer to ANY group of people who have that same lame > philosophy. I think that whole color-blind thing is a crock of SHIT. *OF > COURSE* you notice different races....we all have eyes, we can see. I > don't think of myself as Indian or having a darker skintone or all that > every minute of the day, but when someone meets me you can sure bet that it > crosses their mind at least once. Now, if they let that be the reason for > not wanting to be a friend, then i consider that a problem, but there's > nothing wrong w/ noticing differences in each other. WE ARE NOT > HOMOGENOUS, you know? > > SHit people, have we become so PC that we can't even hold a dialogue about > races w/out people freaking out? I've hung out in the LA, San Diego, & SF > scene, and i see Asian Gangsta kids all the time. I dont' want to typify > them all as that, but it's hard when a group is so into themselves. This > is what i see before my eyes and the feeling of unwelcomeness and > incomprehension of the true spirit is what i perceive from groups of kids > like this, whether they be Asian, Indian, Mexican, or pan-European. > Seriously. > > The more the merrier, but EVERYONE & ANYONE in the scene should try to be > open to all others, and not huddle into their e-puddles...it's just > undermines the feeling of unity that i think many of us crave & strive to > create. > > thanx for listening and sorry if i wasn't as eloquent as i coulda > been...words in my head that travel to my hands sometimes get garbled in > the process. maybe plato's theory of the perfect being in your head is > really true. If that's the case then I'd be BAD-ASS dj Number One, becuz > the beatz in my head blow me away! :-))))))))) > > HUGS & HUGZ > > madhvi > > P.S.-- Just outta curiosity, i had no idea there were 6 kids doing FTT. I > thought it was just 3...learn sumthin new every day, huh? > > > > > > > > At 01:21 PM 5/12/99 -0700, Mohan Veloo wrote: > > What 'Asian Invasion'? Three of the 6 partners of Funky Tekno Tribe are > >Asian. We've been around for 6 - 7 years... Actually when I really think > >about it... the six of us are Black, Filipino, Chinese, Indian (Eastern > >Indian), Latino and White... all colors... ;) Mohan (Indian) Funky > >Tekno Tribe -----Original Message----- > >From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > >Behalf Of Nick Ngo > >Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 12:57 PM > >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Asians in the RAVE scene > > > > Hello everyone, So if you wanna gripe, flame, or say > >racists things...I'll listen to you with my blindfolds on. Thanks, > > Nick > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 23:49:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2071 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 23:49:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 1963 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 23:49:02 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 23:49:02 -0000 Received: from Pogobee@aol.com (8017) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vTUGa02053 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 19:48:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Pogobee@aol.com Message-ID: <682a39d8.246cbeb8@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 19:48:08 EDT Subject: last night at *Progress* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 52 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey all! i'm not sure if any of you listers made it out last night, but if you didn't, you totally missed out! Mars and Mystre were supposed to spin last night. Unfortunately they had to cancel last minute. Bummer? Not really... everyone who showed up was treated Joseph Lee and Dyloot spinning 2x4. Some of the best techno i've heard in a long time thrown down last night. Around midnight Tracer showed up and got everyone dancing to some incredible TekHouse. The last hour was an awesome 2x4 of Joseph and Tracer. The energy in that place was just amazing!!! In case you guys haven't heard of Progress, it happens every Wednesday at Liquid in sF. Most nights are usually trance, but techno and house have been sneaking into a lot of the sets recently. y'all should check it out sometime. :) --pogo - the everchanging From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 23:50:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3022 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 23:50:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 3006 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 23:50:03 -0000 Received: from sco.sco.com (132.147.128.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 23:50:03 -0000 Received: from novasco.sco.COM(132.147.178.252) via SMTP by sco.sco.COM, id smtpdAAAa006xq; Thu May 13 16:48:48 1999 Received: from lesleymo.sco.com by novasco.sco.com id aa23012; 13 May 99 16:40 PDT Message-ID: <373B62D0.79F63F4@sco.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:40:00 -0700 From: Lesley Mortell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: OXnymphXO@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Hippies At Raves References: <3ccbbaaa.246cb357@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk and just to prove the point Eat Static = Ozric Tenticles + technology System 7 = Steve Hillage + technology OXnymphXO@aol.com wrote: > > raves=hippies + technology From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 13 23:58:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10857 invoked by uid 6000); 13 May 1999 23:58:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 10849 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 23:58:32 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?Vk7e2WLPuLg+CGY8Kby2vQtAk+dhrKZX?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 23:58:32 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id QAA18322 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:58:28 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:58:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: raver math (z = x+y) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Optical = Leo Kottke + technology Krust = Curtis Mayfield + technology Shy FX = P-Funk + technology hmmm. E-Sassin = E-Sassin + technology hmmm. Photek = Max Roach + Can + technology Aphrodite = cheese + capitalism + technology Ez-Rollers = Charlie Hunter Trio + technology fuck, what a boring game. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 00:01:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14451 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 00:01:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 14265 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 00:01:13 -0000 Received: from web807.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 00:01:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990514000101.10480.rocketmail@web807.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.180.76.16] by web807.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 17:01:01 PDT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 17:01:01 -0700 (PDT) From: loic comolli Subject: Re: last night at *Progress* To: Pogobee@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk info on this, please.... loic --- Pogobee@aol.com wrote: > hey all! > > i'm not sure if any of you listers made it out last > night, but if you didn't, > you totally missed out! > > Mars and Mystre were supposed to spin last night. > Unfortunately they had to > cancel last minute. Bummer? Not really... everyone > who showed up was treated > Joseph Lee and Dyloot spinning 2x4. Some of the best > techno i've heard in a > long time thrown down last night. > > Around midnight Tracer showed up and got everyone > dancing to some incredible > TekHouse. The last hour was an awesome 2x4 of Joseph > and Tracer. The energy > in that place was just amazing!!! > > In case you guys haven't heard of Progress, it > happens every Wednesday at > Liquid in sF. Most nights are usually trance, but > techno and house have been > sneaking into a lot of the sets recently. y'all > should check it out > sometime. :) > > --pogo - the everchanging > > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 00:15:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22580 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 00:15:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 22567 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 00:15:37 -0000 Received: from linex1.linex.com (HELO relay.linex.net) (199.4.98.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 00:15:37 -0000 Received: from linex4.linex.com (linex4.linex.com [199.4.98.14]) by relay.linex.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA09640 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:47:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linex.linex.com by linex4.linex.com (NX5.67c/NX3.0S) id AA06048; Thu, 13 May 99 16:47:49 -0700 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:47:48 -0700 (PDT) From: aminita To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: BSP:Tonight UnitingSouls@KitKat Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Tonight! Thurs. May 13th - Kit-Kat presents an evening with Uniting Souls 10 pm - 4:30 am @ The End-Up (6th & Harrison). We're the guests for the night at Kit-Kat, should be a good time, with Uniting Souls resident DJ's Moses, Mikey the Riddler, Girl Friday, and Jason Henry. This is our 2nd appearance. We had a night at Kit-Kat last March and it was off da hook! Looking forward to another great night of music! also...... Sat. May 15th - Uniting Souls presents Housepitality @ 78 Minna 9pm - 2am In the Attic: Special guest Leaf Recording artist RaSoul, DFunkt (Beats Brigade), and Fabulizz (Progress/Uniting Souls). In the Insect Lounge: the junglistic sounds of Honey-B and Sifu, downtempo/hip-hop beats by DJ Riddler (Mikey). 415.273.5449 also.... this Sunday at Chemistry (408.288.5856), Moses and Dom the Beat Poet will be throwin' down a phat 2x4 breaks set, along with DFunkt and Girl Friday, with Fabulizz spinning in the main room too, so hope to see you all this weekend! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 00:46:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8168 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 00:46:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 8143 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 00:46:18 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 00:46:18 -0000 Received: from AlexG1029@aol.com (8001) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vXXBa04195 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 20:45:15 -0400 (EDT) From: AlexG1029@aol.com Message-ID: <57be2701.246ccc1a@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 20:45:14 EDT Subject: Re: Review of Gianni's Mixtape To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i also happen to have this tape and its great! i got it from a friend like a week ago and have been listenin to it all the time since so everybody go get it its a really awesome tape! PeAcE OuT alEx =.) ps: hey whats the name of the 3rd track on the first side of the tape? (right after shrink's "nervous breakdown")? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 01:03:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22285 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 01:03:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 22265 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 01:03:33 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 01:03:33 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA21031; Thu, 13 May 1999 18:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id BAA25021; Fri, 14 May 1999 01:00:52 GMT From: "MooK<><" To: "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" , "F-8 List" Subject: Learn to be a DJ or just look like one at Barbezon Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:08:48 -0700 Message-ID: <000201be9da6$528e44e0$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I just found a site that seems to be pretty cool and has a ton of info for those of you out there aspiring to be DJ's. Covers equipment, mixing, Record buying techniques, etc. Also has a lot of Real Audio Clips (although since I don't have a sound card I don't know if the music is any good). http://www.mac.ndirect.co.uk/ Note: As with every piece of advice, take the author's with a grain of salt. Everyone has a different opinion on these things, but there is a bunch of standard info on this site too. =) MooK<>< From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 01:08:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26575 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 01:08:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 26556 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 01:07:59 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 01:07:59 -0000 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.9.3/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA03377; Thu, 13 May 1999 18:07:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:07:55 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-Sender: andy@atari To: Max McCauley cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: raver math (z = x+y) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk McDuh=SmartAss+BigMout'+Ganja AndyW=DumbAss+Techno+Ganja You're right, this lacks. :P AndyW On Thu, 13 May 1999, Max McCauley wrote: -&e-> -&e->Optical = Leo Kottke + technology -&e-> -&e->Krust = Curtis Mayfield + technology -&e-> -&e->Shy FX = P-Funk + technology -&e-> -&e->hmmm. -&e-> -&e->E-Sassin = E-Sassin + technology -&e-> -&e->hmmm. -&e-> -&e->Photek = Max Roach + Can + technology -&e-> -&e->Aphrodite = cheese + capitalism + technology -&e-> -&e->Ez-Rollers = Charlie Hunter Trio + technology -&e-> -&e->fuck, what a boring game. -&e-> -&e->10-4, -&e->duh, -&e->max -&e-> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 01:23:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4648 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 01:23:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 4640 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 01:23:10 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 01:23:10 -0000 Received: from Speedex33@aol.com (537) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id dSREa05092; Thu, 13 May 1999 21:22:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Speedex33@aol.com Message-ID: <6fba1804.246cd4c7@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:22:15 EDT Subject: Re: raver math (z = x+y) To: maxmcc@csua.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk X + T + C = HAPPY From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 01:28:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9936 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 01:28:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 9928 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 01:28:45 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 01:28:45 -0000 Received: from Pogobee@aol.com (4421) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rXKGa03059; Thu, 13 May 1999 21:17:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Pogobee@aol.com Message-ID: <269165e9.246cd391@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:17:05 EDT Subject: bsp: *Progress* To: lxc_2@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk sorry folks i should have mentioned this before but i didn't want my review to be a bsp.... but on well, here it is... *PROGRESS* free every wednesday bringing the best of sF's UG djs residents: Icon KJ Tracer JosephLee location: 16th St between South Van Ness and Mission Important: this is a bar and a valid id over 21 is required. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 01:30:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11782 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 01:30:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 11661 invoked by uid 233); 14 May 1999 01:29:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 19558 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 21:12:57 -0000 Received: from precipice.v-site.net (209.133.7.23) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 21:12:57 -0000 Received: from localhost (geoffw@localhost) by precipice.v-site.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA19586; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:18:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Geoff White To: "Niels P. Mayer" cc: San FranDisco Ravers List , groovi-music@netwiz.net Subject: Re: WMC and freestyle classics article on amazon.com In-Reply-To: <199905132022.NAA20916@mail.netwiz.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 13 May 1999, Niels P. Mayer wrote: > > CAN'T-MISS FREESTYLE CLASSICS > ***************************** > Also known as "the Latin hip-hop," freestyle music was a > sped up, romantic variation of the electro-boogie beat > sounds of the early '80s. A club-based sound, the music Yeah I gotta killer freestyle set vuz I used to spin that shit in the 90's From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 01:44:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21777 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 01:44:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 21769 invoked by uid 233); 14 May 1999 01:44:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 4828 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 00:36:02 -0000 Received: from mailgate.cadence.com (158.140.2.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 00:36:02 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.cadence.com (8.8.5/8.6.8) id RAA25566; Thu, 13 May 1999 17:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub2.Cadence.COM(158.140.128.8) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (mjr-v1.2) id xma926642128.025340; Thu, 13 May 99 17:35:28 -0700 Received: from urbanassault.org (d15814038120 [158.140.38.120]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00172; Thu, 13 May 1999 17:26:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <373B6DCE.4B879E21@urbanassault.org> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 17:26:54 -0700 From: Siphon Reply-To: siphon@urbanassault.org Organization: Urban Assault X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sf-jungle , sfraves Subject: www.urbanassault.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk We are excited to announce our new domain name: www.urbanassault.org Please update your bookmarks and or links. In the next month we'll be adding tracks that we have produced as well as mixes. The site will be under going mass changes in the months to come. Thanks for all your support and energy. Urban Assault upcoming events: May 15th Santa Clara Central Park 12 noon - 8 pm Djs:Shubert & Dizolve ( Dub'L Vision ) Hak & Siphon ( Urban Assualt ) Michael Liu Damon ( Atp ) Saturday, May 15th - First Light Collective presents First Light one year anniversary DJ's in Room 1:, Mars Vs.Mystre, Happy Kid Ian Vs. Happy kid Marty, Greg Sandler Vs. AndyW, Macadio, Andrei Morant (Template Records UK), Room 2:, Hak Vs. Siphon, Rinse Vs. Flux, Protolab (Live PA), Micron. S i p h o n Urban Assault [99] info: 408.882.5064 http://www.urbanassault.org From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 01:47:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24204 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 01:47:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 24195 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 01:47:36 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 01:47:36 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA24623; Thu, 13 May 1999 20:46:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smx-ca12-58.ix.netcom.com(207.92.172.250) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma024611; Thu May 13 20:46:30 1999 Message-ID: <373B802F.37F98CB2@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:45:19 -0700 From: Ray Vonie Organization: Feel Good Entertainment X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tHe AcCoMplICe CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org, hak1@earthlink.org, "Robrave@aol.com" Subject: Re: Sideburn Slims not a DJ! References: <19990513032459.19654.rocketmail@web220.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey Now !!! Those are some very serious accusations. I hope you have the proof to back them up. Slim is a good guy, and has come through numerous times for me, and plays for the love of the music. I will back him up any day, so if you're gona hate on my friends, then you may as well be hating on me, and I'm not down with that. Chill out on the player hating bullshit and move on, because this list is not intended to be a medium for character assassination based on personal agenda. If you think you're a better DJ than he is, and you think you got what it takes, then I welcome you to send me a tape, and I'll be glad to post a review of it to this list, than we can all see exactly what your opinion is worth. Talking' shit like this makes you look way worse than the shit that you have to say. Keep it mellow, Vlad tHe AcCoMplICe wrote: > Why is it that there are so many Dj's that can't even > mix, playing out at parties? > Why are these Dj's being represented by agents?? > Are these agents hard of hearing? > How can a Dj that got caught stealing hundreds of > dollars worth of records from Solid Grooves and STILL > play out? > How can a Dj who gets fired from T&J Factory for > stealing, still play out?? > Why are they STILL being represented by agents? > > Side Burn Slim is not a DJ folks. > A liar, theif and loser, but definatly, NOT a DJ! > > What ever you do, don't hire him to play at your > party, he might find something to steal! > > Oh, and to all the agents who represent Dj's like > this, you are giving yourself, and any deserving Dj's > that you represent, a very bad name! > > Stop with the poop!! > Seriously...it stinks! > > chris > > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 01:53:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27065 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 01:53:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 27050 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 01:53:05 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 01:53:05 -0000 Received: from Pogobee@aol.com (4421) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHHGa05661 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 21:51:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Pogobee@aol.com Message-ID: <8648b126.246cdb44@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:49:56 EDT Subject: do you have an alter? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk the past couple of day i've been visiting my friend's at their houses. i've noticed that a lot of them have little alters. most of them have candles, incense, crystals, flowers or fruit, and other personal items. i was just wondering... what types of items do you guys have on your alters? my alter is built with many items that represent someone very close to me. one item on my alter is a very small fish bowl filled with tiny origami stars my best friend gave me for Christmas. every party i go to i take a few of these stars and give them to people who've made my night special. -- pogo - the evercurious From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 01:57:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29333 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 01:57:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 29281 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 01:56:59 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 01:56:59 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com (8032) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id lAJOa03060; Thu, 13 May 1999 21:55:00 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: <682c0c06.246cdc74@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:55:00 EDT Subject: Re: 187 (??) To: npm@mail.netwiz.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk murder death kill "I'm howlin 187 with my dick in your mouth biotch" lol dre day is a fuckin classic bow wow wow yippie yo yippie yay death row is in the muthafukin hizouse hehehhe From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 02:02:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2021 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 02:02:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 2010 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 02:02:05 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 02:02:05 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com (8032) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rLHOa10989; Thu, 13 May 1999 21:50:46 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:50:46 EDT Subject: Re: Trance and Jungle Factory is a crock of shit To: ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu, Laalkuchaa@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm very grateful for T&J... there the only place I can ever get to to buy presales, and glowstix for that matter... plus i always enjoy talkin to Thomas and watchin whatever friend is with me ask where he's from hehe everyone loves a damn accent later matthew p.s. im gonna learn how to speak with a scottish accent, those are dope From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 02:02:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2830 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 02:02:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 2780 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 02:02:33 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 02:02:33 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com (3936) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPCMa02608 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 21:58:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:58:38 EDT Subject: Re: raver math (z = x+y) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/13/99 6:23:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Speedex33@aol.com writes: << X + T + C = HAPPY >> More like X + T + C = fuckin' broke From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 02:13:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9901 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 02:13:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 9892 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 02:13:41 -0000 Received: from x15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 02:13:41 -0000 Received: (from elias_smith@juno.com) by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EAJXGJA4; Thu, 13 May 1999 22:13:33 EDT To: Pogobee@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 05:30:59 -0700 Subject: Re: do you have an alter? Message-ID: <19990424.053101.-916251.0.Elias_Smith@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 7-30 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: the town drunk Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I do! I do! There is an inscense burner thingie with a bunch of previously lit matches next to it that I really need to toss, A funny shaped candle holder, a small plant, an Empire Probe Droid, A Tattooine backdrop with a sandy R2-D2 and C3PO and the forgotten droid R5D4, a paperclip, a squishy alien guy, a little plastic lion because I'm a Leo (sorry!), an actual Chinese throwing star!!! It's so kewl! and a bunch of computer chips and a couple of old beer cans that need to be tossed too! -g On Thu, 13 May 1999 21:49:56 EDT Pogobee@aol.com writes: >the past couple of day i've been visiting my friend's at their houses. >i've >noticed that a lot of them have little alters. most of them have >candles, >incense, crystals, flowers or fruit, and other personal items. > >i was just wondering... what types of items do you guys have on your >alters? > >my alter is built with many items that represent someone very close to >me. >one item on my alter is a very small fish bowl filled with tiny >origami stars >my best friend gave me for Christmas. every party i go to i take a few >of >these stars and give them to people who've made my night special. > >-- pogo - the evercurious > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 02:54:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29738 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 02:54:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 29700 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 02:54:44 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 02:54:44 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (575) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNCDa05050 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 22:53:32 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <63607c68.246cea2b@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 22:53:31 EDT Subject: Re: do you have an alter? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i have one too but mine is more based around the metaphysic area From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 03:15:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9283 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 03:15:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 9261 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 03:15:18 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 03:15:18 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com (540) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vXHIa05051 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 23:13:48 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 23:13:48 EDT Subject: Re: Brand new to the scene To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok this just brought tears to mah eyes! not over flowing mind you but damn close enough to be counted! i totally identify with Chris on the point that alot of you guys are helluv smart! I feel like a 5 year old listening to the grown ups talkin. So what do I need to have to become a guru too? I wanna spout really deep stuff too!!!!! secondly when I read this post it was like a mirror image of my own post earlier this year (except the e part which i mildly disagree with...u should party sober the first time to know what you are getting into IMHO) and I was totally jumping up and down in mah bed reading how he was feeling the beats and just dancing. the part about the people kickin you was soooooooo true Chris! Hell whenever Im walking in school Ill have MANY people knockin poor me outta the way and just walking by because they are too uncomfortable or stuck up to apologize! but its all goo. anyway yes it was prolly the e that made u compelled to talk to your taxi driver hehehe i remember talkin to mah friend susan for HOURS after ravers r us got busted hehehehehe. Well welcome and I hope you have a pleasant and hopefully permanent stay with us -aaron (Orion) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 03:37:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17556 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 03:37:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 17537 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 03:37:04 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 03:37:04 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (575) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vDGFa26070 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 23:32:55 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 23:32:55 EDT Subject: [nrr] Joke Time To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk here is another one to brighten up yer day: Q: What is the difference between a Northern zoo and a Southern (redneck) zoo? A: In the northern zoo, they have the animals identified with a sign giving the complete scientific name. In the southern zoo, the sign has the recipe =========- http://www.angelfire.com/hi/ovydd/humor.html -========= Love and Light High Tech Redneck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 03:41:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19496 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 03:41:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 19473 invoked by uid 233); 14 May 1999 03:40:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 3910 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 03:00:48 -0000 Received: from spazmo.peacedividend.com (HELO mail.peacedividend.com) (208.25.76.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 03:00:48 -0000 Received: from [208.25.76.69] (208.25.76.69) by mail.peacedividend.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.2.2); Thu, 13 May 1999 20:02:03 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: jessica@mail.peacedividend.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <63607c68.246cea2b@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 19:59:07 -0700 To: WhrDaMud@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: NRR: Re: do you have an alter?(sic) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk When I did have an *altar* its purpose was to *alter*, but now I just sprinkle my fetishes about. J ******************************** http://www.peacedividend.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 03:41:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19930 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 03:41:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 19804 invoked by uid 233); 14 May 1999 03:41:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 3905 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 03:00:47 -0000 Received: from spazmo.peacedividend.com (HELO mail.peacedividend.com) (208.25.76.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 03:00:47 -0000 Received: from [208.25.76.69] (208.25.76.69) by mail.peacedividend.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.2.2); Thu, 13 May 1999 20:02:02 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: jessica@mail.peacedividend.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990424.053101.-916251.0.Elias_Smith@juno.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 19:57:07 -0700 To: the town drunk , Pogobee@aol.com From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: do you have an alter? Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ahoy, drunken one! Your computer's clock is waaaaaaaay off. Now I know everyone's reality is what they make of it, and all, and I would never deny you your uniqueness, but it's just wacky when your messages land far away from where they go in the sfr sequence in my in-box. I enjoy a warp in the space time continuum as much as anyone, but just in case you wanted to get in synch I thought I'd point it out. Cheers, Jessica ******************************** http://www.peacedividend.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 03:50:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28279 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 03:50:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 28271 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 03:50:38 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd101.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.165) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 03:50:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 20232 invoked by uid 0); 14 May 1999 03:51:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19990514035132.20231.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.188.193.47 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 May 1999 20:51:31 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.188.193.47] From: "sHaWn ." To: mdalal@ixpres.com, TeKnODiVa@aol.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: FREEDOM!! Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 20:51:31 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk No way!!! the racetrack is hella pimp and in my opinion better then where they had it last year. I have been going to Freedom's every summer for 5 years and i want the racerack goddamnitt! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 04:11:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6613 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 04:11:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 6602 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 04:11:03 -0000 Received: from web207.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.107) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 04:11:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19990514040924.27387.rocketmail@web207.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.157.114.222] by web207.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 21:09:24 PDT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:09:24 -0700 (PDT) From: tHe AcCoMplICe Subject: Re:Re:Sideburn Slims not a DJ! To: Ray Vonie Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Vlad.... You know who I am...We used to party way back in the day. I was friends with Mike Mingon, turtle, I used to Dj under the name Darwyn. And yes, I can back up everything I said except the T&J factory stuff, I heard that second hand. Next time you are in Solid Grooves picking up money or droppin' off tickets, ask Brandon or Harry about it, I guarentee they will not be as nice as I was. They were ripped off for a lot of fuckin' money in recs dude! As far as credibility, I own Resource Records & Jump Recordings and Dj around the states. I contribute alot of time, passion and money into the music which grooves our scene guy, and personally, even if you did want to book me....I wouldn't take your $50 anyway...... You can continue to do what you do, and I will continue to do what I do... so lets just leave it like that.. true, chris jackson P.S. Maybe you should listen a little harder to the tapes you get... Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 04:12:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7395 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 04:12:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 7352 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 04:12:15 -0000 Received: from x15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 04:12:15 -0000 Received: (from elias_smith@juno.com) by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EAJ55NLY; Fri, 14 May 1999 00:09:57 EDT To: jessica@peacedividend.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 07:27:16 -0700 Subject: Re: do you have an alter? Message-ID: <19990424.072718.-916251.0.Elias_Smith@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 5-9,11-33 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: the town drunk Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I was aware of this slight miscalculated goof on my computer's behalf. You see, while all my computer's brothers and sisters face their own apacolypse on the stroke of midnight at the very end of this year, this hunk of junk is gonna get to stick around for over 3 extra weeks! Doomsday will come for this little white box around January 23rd or so in the year 2000. Yup, she's a survivor. -g On Thu, 13 May 1999 19:57:07 -0700 Jessica Webster writes: >Ahoy, drunken one! > >Your computer's clock is waaaaaaaay off. Now I know everyone's >reality is >what they make of it, and all, and I would never deny you your >uniqueness, >but it's just wacky when your messages land far away from where they >go in >the sfr sequence in my in-box. I enjoy a warp in the space time >continuum >as much as anyone, but just in case you wanted to get in synch I >thought >I'd point it out. > >Cheers, > >Jessica > > >******************************** >http://www.peacedividend.com > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 04:43:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16598 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 04:43:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 16586 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 04:43:12 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 04:43:12 -0000 Received: from BodhiInSF@aol.com (3938) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vSWWa02684 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 00:42:20 -0400 (EDT) From: BodhiInSF@aol.com Message-ID: <45d4e258.246d03ab@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 00:42:19 EDT Subject: Hippies*TheRaveScene*AndTheEvent'lySellingOut To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I absolutely agree with one post that the rave scene and the dead head, or hippie scene (what ever you want to call it) has many parallels and commonalties. The only real big difference is that the rave scene is more technological, and the hippie scene is more natural. While ravers dance to synthesizer created drum beats, hippies use the real drums. What is better? Nothing is better or inferior to anything else. What matters is not whether you dance to a synthetic drum beat or to a natural drum beat, what matters is that you dance, and that you love and respect one another. That's what it's all about to me. PLUR can be found in the most technologically advanced raves, to the most primitive rainbow gatherings, from the Homebase building on Saturday night, to Golden Gate park on a Sunday afternoon. PLUR can be dispensed from the 1200s as easily from the most basic drum. To deny that is to demean the concept of PLUR; To paraphrase a popular Zen saying. Now are there "bad" hippies? I can answer that by asking; are there "bad" ravers? Absolutely there are. You look in the early hippie movement and you will see there were negative elements like the famous Merry Tricksters, and Charles Manson and his crew. Every movement has it's real followers and it's posers. Many hung out in the hippie movement for wrong reasons. But most were attracted to the early hippie movement because it was the most fragrant rebellion to the 50's morality, and a clear alternative to the popular society and culture many were becoming disillusioned with. The hippie movement was a natural evolution from the beatnik movement which existed during the 50's and early 60's. Also what fueled the movement more powerfully was the common refusal to go to a war the US was fighting in Vietnam. And from the early hippie movement, sprung revolutionary ideas, the ecology movement, the call to social justice, fights against racism and sexism, the gay liberation movement came out of this climate. The ideas of peaceful living, loving and respecting the earth, being kind to one another and living more naturally was the main tenants of the hippie movement. All I can say is that if were not for the hippie movement, we would not have the rights (racial and sexual) and the kind of creativity and atmosphere that eventually gave birth to things like the rave movement today. No, not everyone practiced what the hippie movement called for. Same for ravers and what the true rave movement calls for. And most hippies later on became corrupted, sold out, and turned into yuppies and rich snob recluses in Marion County and Walnut Creek. They are now being hated for moving into San Francisco and bringing in Starbuck's coffee and displacing all the local businesses, and making the rent so high, the poor and people who make San Francisco so unique can no longer afford to live there anymore. Most ravers you see around you will too eventually sell out, become corporate and be part of the problems and life styles that are fucking up this world, and will move on the other side of the picket line, and be objects of protests, like the yuppies have become. It's like today. We have the modern hippie movement. I agree most of it is based on just style, and not much substance. Much of the reason for that is because the hippie movement today has no real causes to fight for, nothing to rebel against. Just, for many, to hang out on Haight Street or Telegraph Avenue and sell acid and pot. But many are not that way and have embraced the true hippie movement and ideas, like many ravers and the true spirit of raving. The American society has become so thoroughly pacified and lethargic. We have been subdued by super malls, 200 channel cable TV, and it seems like everyone's pot has been filled with mass produced, hormone filled chicken, and no one cares that we an emerging police state, and civil rights are being daily taken away from us, that we have a drug war going on that's destroying millions of people's lives, and is taking away voting rights again from minorities, as sinisterly as the Jim Crow laws. We are fat, lazy, ignorant and subdued. Many hippies of today are often called; credit card hippies. They go up to Haight Street, whip out their credit cards and buy all the "hippie" paraphernalia's, and call themselves "hippies." After about a year of that, they get bored, head out to the Embarcadero district, go whip out their credit card again and be somebody else. Many ravers are like that too in regards to raver paraphernalia. What angers me the most are these yuppies who will go up to Haight Street, often with their children and remember the old days of being a hippie, while at the same time complaining to the city hall to do something about all those dirty street kids with their dogs, panhandling them for money. Who knows, maybe Y2K may change things. If this war in Europe blows up in our faces, maybe if enough people get arrested and thrown into prison for many years for drugs, people might wake up, like the couch potato, eating his drug laced chicken, while surfing his 200 channels having a heart attack! Every thing eventually gets old and corrupted. The hippie movement died out in the middle 70's and made way for disco, polyester, and cocaine. The early punk movement got discovered by major record labels in the mid 80's and became "alternative music." The gay movement became conservative and desiring to seem so normal in the early 90's. The rave movement, like every thing else that was considered underground in it's time, is now showing signs of becoming corrupted and mainstream, and will too, like every other counter culture movement, will turn into some form of a pop culture variation very soon. Something else will then have to be developed to become the expression to the fringes of society. The wheel of Dharma keeps turning, and happenings or phenomena's of life comes and goes, until we are delivered unto the bliss of nothingness called Nirvana. The true rebels of popular and conformed society will always be here, no matter what or who comes and goes. It's not about phenomena's, it's about ideas. Are you true to a phenomena or an idea? That will tell where you will be in the future. Peace, love and hugzzz to all! ---Bodhi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 05:01:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26180 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 05:01:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 26172 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 05:01:23 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 05:01:23 -0000 Received: from BodhiInSF@aol.com (3938) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNMZa10990; Fri, 14 May 1999 01:00:48 -0400 (EDT) From: BodhiInSF@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 01:00:47 EDT Subject: Re: do you have an alter? To: Pogobee@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What a nice post, Thank you, Pogo! My alter is a speaker turned sideways, with a purple cloth on it, and another cloth with eastern, paisley designs on top of that, with a statue of the Buddha painted with florescent paint, a beautiful picture of Asklolavishara, the Buddha of compassion, a picture of HH, the Dali Lama, an incense bowl and flowers with a bowl for food offerings, to remember all the hungry ghosts out there (people who grasp and are greedy, portrayed a beings with huge bodies and pencil size mouths), candles and a black light in front of it. It glows so beautifuly with my black light on! You know what, I thought just came to me; I'd love gifts to put on my alter to remember people by. If anyone is interested in sending me something, or we could exchange gifts for your alter, like a picture, what ever we wish to send, mail me privately and we'll exchange addresses. Peace, love and hugzz to all! ---Bodhi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 05:47:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11034 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 05:47:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 11026 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 05:47:53 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 05:47:53 -0000 Received: from SpinDazE@aol.com (537) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJPYa26068; Fri, 14 May 1999 01:46:33 -0400 (EDT) From: SpinDazE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 01:46:33 EDT Subject: Re: do you have an alter? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org CC: Pogobee@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well mine is a life size cardboard cut out of u (pogo) in a spiderman outfit, standing w/ your legs apart, and a SF cable car and muni circling u . . . and I've placed a LaY around your neck. . . then there's a cardboard cut out of me and Dean in total kande out in matching BLACK fur (damn we look good) . . . god I love fur especially the edible kind I have randomly thrown condoms (used or not) around our images. In addition I've used various colored pixie stixs to create different erotic drawings to decorate the tracks which the bus and cable car ride on. . .I could ramble on and on, cuz I'm quite obsessed w/ my altar. Well I've got the usual castrated Teletubby candles and hamburger scented incense. . . I need to add more cut outs to the collection though, maybe that white washed vietnamese fasian bitch. So far I've just got us 3 kids . . . we can play w/ the cut outs and place them in submissive positions!! can't wait till i get more! hehe angel From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 05:55:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14449 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 05:55:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 14440 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 05:55:32 -0000 Received: from law-f241.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.206) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 05:55:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 42248 invoked by uid 0); 14 May 1999 05:55:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990514055505.42247.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.186.215.42 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 May 1999 22:55:05 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.186.215.42] From: "Charles Wilson" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Subject: Re: Inquiry: HAwaii?? Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 22:55:05 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I can help you out if you are going to O'ahu. 'Cause I've been looking for the same information. =) I don't really feel like writing out all the web pages and various contacts I have unless you're going to that island. - Charles From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 06:14:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20278 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 06:14:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 20268 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 06:14:28 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd90.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.154) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 06:14:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 21435 invoked by uid 0); 14 May 1999 06:14:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19990514061440.21434.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 152.163.197.184 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 May 1999 23:14:39 PDT X-Originating-IP: [152.163.197.184] From: "ve anne" To: rayvonie@ix.netcom.com, resourcerecords@yahoo.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org, hak1@earthlink.org, Robrave@aol.com Subject: Re: Sideburn Slims not a DJ! Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 06:14:39 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i don't mean to be harsh i'm not a DJ but as one of those kids who've been attending your parties for like three years now, i'd rather see a DJ that can beatmatch than one who trainwrecks or mixes in four beats and slams it into the next track... i still wouldn't care if he *played for the love of the music* honestly From: Ray Vonie To: tHe AcCoMplICe CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org, hak1@earthlink.org, "Robrave@aol.com" Subject: Re: Sideburn Slims not a DJ! Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:45:19 -0700 Hey Now !!! Those are some very serious accusations. I hope you have the proof to back them up. Slim is a good guy, and has come through numerous times for me, and plays for the love of the music. I will back him up any day, so if you're gona hate on my friends, then you may as well be hating on me, and I'm not down with that. Chill out on the player hating bullshit and move on, because this list is not intended to be a medium for character assassination based on personal agenda. If you think you're a better DJ than he is, and you think you got what it takes, then I welcome you to send me a tape, and I'll be glad to post a review of it to this list, than we can all see exactly what your opinion is worth. Talking' shit like this makes you look way worse than the shit that you have to say. Keep it mellow, Vlad tHe AcCoMplICe wrote: > Why is it that there are so many Dj's that can't even > mix, playing out at parties? > Why are these Dj's being represented by agents?? > Are these agents hard of hearing? > How can a Dj that got caught stealing hundreds of > dollars worth of records from Solid Grooves and STILL > play out? > How can a Dj who gets fired from T&J Factory for > stealing, still play out?? > Why are they STILL being represented by agents? > > Side Burn Slim is not a DJ folks. > A liar, theif and loser, but definatly, NOT a DJ! > > What ever you do, don't hire him to play at your > party, he might find something to steal! > > Oh, and to all the agents who represent Dj's like > this, you are giving yourself, and any deserving Dj's > that you represent, a very bad name! > > Stop with the poop!! > Seriously...it stinks! > > chris > > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 06:37:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25430 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 06:37:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 25421 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 06:37:26 -0000 Received: from law-f27.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.90) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 06:37:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 94602 invoked by uid 0); 14 May 1999 06:38:27 -0000 Message-ID: <19990514063827.94601.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.214.164 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 May 1999 23:38:27 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.214.164] From: "Amber Leahey" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re:(NRR) do you have an alter? Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 23:38:27 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have a Princess Leia alter *seriously*. Well more like all my Princess Leia stuff is on one shelf, but that's kind of an alter. Everytime I think I have all the Princess Leia's, they come out with another one. UGH! oh well. Amber (A.K.A. st*rgrrl) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 07:34:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22051 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 07:34:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 21923 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 07:33:57 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 07:33:57 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-131.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.131]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA26109 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 00:33:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990514060835.006d7144@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 01:08:35 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: [NRR] answer me this please. Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok well, I am doing my paper on legalizing drugs and if you could i would like your opinion on the subject. Any answer and reason why would be greatly appreciated. Also if anyone has any updated web sites on that subject that would be appreciated too. Er especially the heroin project in the UK. I cheked hyppereal ad other sites but they were too up to date. To clarify, legalization does not mean decriminalization. (there is a difference) To legalize it would mean that the drugs would be under direct government regulation or indirect regultion. Somewhat like alchol, ok this is all I can say without being biased. If you would like to respond please do so privately. As was said earlier all help is appreciated. "How can I still type while buzzed off my ass?...Skillz baby" Nuku From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 08:05:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5857 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 08:05:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 5841 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 08:05:43 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 08:05:43 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-h4 (mmf33.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.103]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA10182; Fri, 14 May 1999 01:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905140805.BAA10182@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: Pogobee@aol.com From: "Rafie" Subject: RE: do you have an alter? CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 01:08:48 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yes. I have many altars. I have an altar to japanese animation, an altar to Po Tubby, an altar to candy, an altar to Sanrio, an altar to Radiohead, an altar to Elijah Wood, and an altar to your mom. Rafie On Thu, 13 May 1999 21:49:56 EDT, Pogobee@aol.com wrote... >the past couple of day i've been visiting my friend's at their houses. i've >noticed that a lot of them have little alters. most of them have candles, >incense, crystals, flowers or fruit, and other personal items. > >i was just wondering... what types of items do you guys have on your >alters? > >my alter is built with many items that represent someone very close to me. >one item on my alter is a very small fish bowl filled with tiny origami >stars >my best friend gave me for Christmas. every party i go to i take a few of >these stars and give them to people who've made my night special. > >-- pogo - the evercurious > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 08:52:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25442 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 08:52:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 25434 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 08:52:08 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 08:52:08 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA18500 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 01:52:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990514015700.007f8870@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 01:57:00 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: RE: do you have an alter? In-Reply-To: <199905140805.BAA10182@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have an altar at home--not in my dorm room though, and I miss the incense and the soft glow of candles (fire hazards not allowed in the dorm). My altar consists of a small wooden table rescued from the trash bin at my dad's office (it's a beautiful table, i don't know who would discard this thing). On the top shelf of the table sit three candles in oddly colored wine bottles that my mom have given to me over the years. Also, a beautiful dark blue-green ceramic incense holder with turtles and lizards on it which usually holds patchouli or jasmine incense. A sprig of sage which a good friend gave to me a long time ago along with some great advice (the advice i keep close to my heart--the sage i keep on my altar.) I also have a cute little yellow duckie candle, which seems out of place, but it adds some bright color to the otherwise dark altar. The bottom shelf holds my gemstones--some purchased, some found, some given to me by friends. It also holds a ceramic statue I made last summer in my Raku class of a person deep in prayer/meditation. This statue signifies alot to me spiritually and artistically. It is the only sculpture I have ever made that actually turned out as I pictured it in my heart and mind. Also, the statuette was stolen from the cooling racks of my ceramics class before I ever saw the finished product. I was deeply saddened and left notes all around the college's art room in hopes that someone would return it. Weeks passed and I never saw it again. One week before the class ended, I came into class to find the little statue sitting in prayer on my desk... I was so happy. Anyways.. there is other stuff on my altar... but memory is being flighty and I cannot think of anything else right now. All I know is that I can't wait to be done with finals and go home and turn off my lights and smell the incense and exist by candlelight. Goodnight all, Carly Back to Econ review...tomorrow I will be done with econ forever!!! yay!!!!!! *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 09:59:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3859 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 09:59:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 3848 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 09:59:37 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 09:59:37 -0000 Received: from BBoiBreks@aol.com (548) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vMAQa02609; Fri, 14 May 1999 05:59:07 -0400 (EDT) From: BBoiBreks@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 05:59:06 EDT Subject: Re: do you have an alter? To: Pogobee@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well, being the whitewashed vietnamese by ethnicity, buddhist by culture and jewish by blood, my family alter is FUCKED up. I know that a few weeks b4 during and after TET, my mom puts out alot of nifty things tin the living room with pictures of our ancestors, incense, a bowl with rice that hasn't been renewed for longer than I can remember and we burn alot things to homore our bloodline and to start the new year with good luck or something. But when my grandmother visits, everything is stored away and we bring out the menorah, during tha Jewish Holiday where we get presentd for days..... The poser without a peoples bboibreks From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 12:26:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8199 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 12:25:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 8189 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 12:25:57 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 12:25:57 -0000 Received: from [206.169.228.149] (ghana-149.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.228.149]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA03792; Fri, 14 May 1999 05:25:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 05:48:07 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Le Quote of the Day (Fri) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello...today's quote is... Men will confess to treason, murder, arson, false teeth, or a wig. How many of them will own up to a lack of humor? ---Frank Moore Colby ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 13:07:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27520 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 13:07:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 27497 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 13:07:13 -0000 Received: from diana.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.239) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 13:07:13 -0000 Received: from [130.212.201.3] (madmax-3.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.3]) by diana.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA16471; Fri, 14 May 1999 06:05:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3ccbbaaa.246cb357@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 23:12:51 -0700 To: OXnymphXO@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Michael Standish Subject: Re: Hippies At Raves Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 6:59 PM -0400 5/13/99, OXnymphXO@aol.com wrote: >raves=hippies + technology You may be a hippy on technology, but I sure as hell am not. Call yourself hippy all you want, but when you call ravers hippies, you're calling me a hippy, and that is not OK. Just because your reasons for raving seem, to you, to resemble hippy stuff, doesn't mean that every raver, raves for hippy like reasons. Look around you; do you think all those Hilfiger clad ravers give shit one about hippy stuff? If they did they wouldn't be wearing that racist asshole's clothing. Ulrich # # ______________________{\}o_ ______________________{\}o_ |\ o ******* C\> \ |\ o ******* C\> \ | \ *************** \ \ | \ *************** \ \ \ \ ********^********# | \_______________\ ********^********# | \ \ \ *_*************# /- \ \ \ \ \ o ## \ *_*************# /- \ \ \ \|_| ##########|. v \ \ \ \ \. . . \|_| ##########|. v \ \ \ \\_\_==___________________\__=+==_________\\_\_==___________________\ \|_________________________||______________||_________________________| From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 14:57:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 921 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 14:57:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 910 invoked by uid 233); 14 May 1999 14:56:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 2386 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 19:46:57 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 May 1999 19:46:57 -0000 Received: from [192.68.228.2] (HELO mattdntbusapp) by mogwaicom.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 2.9b5) with SMTP id 641019; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:48:22 -0700 Message-ID: <00b601be9d79$62f79930$162b0a0a@efi.com> From: "Matt@warmth.org" To: "*warmth* discussion list" , Subject: In Need of Dionysis Dreams contact information! Please help! Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:47:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B3_01BE9D3E.B4A1FA40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B3_01BE9D3E.B4A1FA40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone have Randy C Cone. aka Randy Dreams aka Dionysis Dreams = contact information? Thanks in advance for the info, Matt ------=_NextPart_000_00B3_01BE9D3E.B4A1FA40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does anyone have Randy C Cone. aka = Randy Dreams aka=20 Dionysis Dreams contact information?
 
Thanks in advance for the = info,
Matt
 


 
------=_NextPart_000_00B3_01BE9D3E.B4A1FA40-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 15:04:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3997 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 15:04:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 3819 invoked by uid 233); 14 May 1999 15:04:10 -0000 Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 08:04:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Lara To: ro ro cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: An Asian/Thuggish lookin junglist speaks! In-Reply-To: <19990513215813.57433.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Rommel, I loved your post! Thanks for bringing your insight onto the list, I appreciate it for one and I'm sure many others out there do as well. Don't hesitate to speak your opinion on this list, you present your points and your arguments in a very respectable manner (i.e. not talking shit) and I'm sure that this is more effective than the negative, close-minded options many people tend to opt to. I admire your ability to do this while it seems the rest of the list is attacking the very type of person you ARE. I'm pleasantly surprised you're not screaming in defense of who you are, and instead have used a calm tone. :) It's nice to hear a "thug-lookin" guy's perspective on himself and why he hangs out the way he does and dresses the way he does-- EVEN THOUGH you shouldn't have to defend yourself in a scene which is SUPPOSED to celebrate diversity instead of making the entire scene an "us vs. them vs. them vs. them" sort of thing. In fact, I'll probably post on that later when I'm not running late for work. Thanks for the insight brother, though some may not be able to look past images and stereotypes, I embrace you for your passion for jungle (and the scene) and look forward to meeting your "asian thug ass" soon! :) Love, Lara ---- "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." -- Oscar Wilde On Thu, 13 May 1999, ro ro wrote: > **I hope my little insight sheds some kind of light on this Asian/Thug > Invasion thang. > > I am new to the "scene" and first fell in love with jungle (and the scene) > on Halloween night last year at 1015. I started out at 1015 on Saturday > nights, but now I'm usually at Home Base. > > I started out going to these parties with my lil crew (I dressed up like a > gangster for Halloween - but it's what I wear everyday!) and I wasn't there > slangin, either (but people kept asking me to sell them E). > > If you ever catch me at a party, you'll find that I'm actually a nice guy. I > guess you can say that I've slowly converted from the thug looking me to the > friendly junglist looking (what's that?) me over the past 8 months. I still > look like a thug in the day, but I look friendlier at a party. "Why don't > you stop dressing/looking like a thug in the day?" I can't help it, it's the > real me. I grew up in an environment where you have to look/dress/act this > way. Even some friends think I look like a thug, but that's just the way I > look. One day, I'll be able to dress like the stereotypical brand name > wearing pretty boy asian... HELL NAW!!! ...that's not me... If you see an > asian-looking-thug at Solid Grooves listening to jungle mixtapes, that's me. > > Yes, I prefer to go to parties with my friends (and yes, we all look asian > (or pilipino if you can make the distinction)). Why do we go together? Why > does anyone go anywhere with anybody or group of people? We can all answer > this question. I go with my friends, because it brings me that much closer > to my friends. Yes, we set up camp (usually in the jungle room) and make > sure someone is guarding our stuff. Besides being the spot for leaving your > stuff, so that you can go off and dance or roam the whole place, it is also > a place to rest (for tired legs & feet or for those who are rollin). > > Please don't stereotype, it makes the thug in me mad. I guess because of my > background, I have no problem with the thug lookin people in our scene. I > know how to handle them, but I doubt others do. What happens is that the > stereotypical thug = drugs,fights,bang bang you're dead and others don't see > them as anything else but this. Yes, they might be trying to sell you some > rat poison or they might look at you all hardcore-thug style, but grow a fat > nutsack and say "HI Mr. Gangster!" If they bite, I'll beat their ass and > throw them out. j/k. For realz though, if you act scared or don't say hello > when you pass them by, it makes them feel less accepted and more likely to > snap at the candy ravers. > > This whole asian/thug lookin thing is a lot deeper than what anybody > thinks... go take a sociology class or something, or kick it with me and my > thugs at a rave. 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Here goes...! > -----Original Message----- > From: Shah, Neha [SMTP:Neha.Shah@sales.turner.com] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 9:38 AM > To: Tuomi, Elizabeth; Weeks, Stephanie; Murphy, Bob; > 'aballerstedt@presnellgroup.com'; 'jfreeman@presnellgroup.com'; > 'khexter@jgblackmon.com'; 'dha4@cdc.gov'; 'Harper_Julie@promina.org'; > 'jenniw@wimc.com'; 'melanie.danner@reliantins.com'; 'bel9@cdc.gov' > Subject: FW: Fw: Money > > > > __________________________________ > > Subject: Fwd: Fw: Money > > Author: "DorellyA@aol.com > > " [SMTP:DorellyA@aol.com] > > > at TBSCENTRAL > > Date: 5/11/99 6:48 PM > > > > > > From: "Lisa Morell" [SMTP:lisamorell@hotmail.com] > > > at TBSCENTRAL > > To: "lisaarcuri@aol.com > > " [SMTP:lisaarcuri@aol.com] > > > at TBSCENTRAL > > Subject: Fwd: Fw: Money > > Date: 5/10/99 2:32:13 PM > > > > > > > > >From: "Kristie Havyer" > > > > > >To: "Lisa" > > >,"Lori" > > >,"Kirby > > >Charleston" > > >,"Debbie" > > >,"Dawn > Mankey" > > > > > >,"Curry" > > >,"Bev Hogan" > > > > > >,"Aunt Sharon" > > >,"Aunt Marion" > > > > > >,"Annie Ong" > > > > > >Subject: Fw: Money > > >Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:14:19 -0400 > > > > > > > > >----->-----Original Message----- > > > >From: George Wallace > > > > > > >To: David L. Wickersham > > >; dok_j@msn.com > > > > > > > > >; > > > >doylegroup@mindspring.com > > >; > > >footwood@injersey.com > > > > > > >; Kevin M Grubb > > >; > > > >hazmatnoel@aol.com > > >; jship@globewireless.com > > > > > > > > > >; Kellie Maguire > > >; > > > >MSmith1440@aol.com > > >; quicksan@bellatlantic.net > > > > > > > > > >; Jim Reilly > > > > > > >; Joseph Smith > > > > > >; > > > >Patrick Wallace > > >; wallaceed@hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Date: Monday, May 10, 1999 1:45 PM > > > >Subject: Fw: Money > > > > > > > > * > > >>Gates better come thru with the cash! > > > >> * > > >>-----Original Message----- * > > >>From: Jeff Samaniego > > > * > > >>To: White-Meat > > >; Welchie Welch > > >; > > >Tammy * > > >>Wilson > > >; Mike Mader > > >; Marie > > > > >Wallace * > > >> > > >; Leenie Lewin > > >; Heather > > >"Bubba" > > > >> > > >; G-Money * > > >> > > >; Glenbo > > >; > Eggman * > > >> > > >; "Shifty" > > >; > > Cuzzy * > > >> > > > * > > >>Date: Monday, May 10, 1999 1:30 PM * > > >>Subject: Fw: Money > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> * > > >>>-----Original Message----- * > > >>>From: Roche, Kim > > > * > > >>>To: Bily, Andrew > > >; Eberharter, Rick * > > >>> > > >; Swanhart, Eric > > > > > >; * > > >>>'ajhines@hotmail.com' > > >; 'Amy Fegyveresi' * > > >>> > > >; 'buckscop@enter.net' > > >; * > > >>>'c_whitley@hotmail.com' > > >; > > 'DEBKEN@cyberenet.net' * > > >>> > > >; 'jcampbell@ccgroupnet.com' * > > >>> > > >; 'kgriffin@lkwd.com' > > > >; * > > >>>'KMcGowan@us.imshealth.com' > > >; * > > >>'mcgowan1@cris.com' * > > >>> > > >; 'mpm8268@hotmail.com' > > >; * > > >>>'NWhitehouse@rbrealty.com' > > >; * > > >>>'PromessoJ@AZ-DES.LEUKEMIA.org' > > >; * > > >>>'realchik@aol.com' > > >; > > > >'samaniego@upper.capemayschools.com' > > > >>> > > >; 'SeddonKR@aetna.com' * > > >>> > > >; 'terri101@gateway.net' > > > >; * > > >>>'walshj@ms.com' > > > * > > >>>Date: Monday, May 10, 1999 9:58 AM * > > >>>Subject: FW: Money > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> * > > >>>>> -----Original Message----- * > > >>>>> From: Kara M. Parfitt [SMTP:kparfitt@phillynews.com] > > > * > > >>>>> Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 4:31 PM * > > >>>>> To: 'ahrens'; 'amy hines'; 'carol whitley'; 'jen campbell'; > 'julie > > * > > >>>>> promesso'; 'Kim'; 'mara scache'; 'payne'; 'terri fauerbach'; > > 'traci * > > >>>>> fauerbach' * > > >>>>> Subject: FW: Money > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> -----Original Message----- * > > >>>>> From: Slowik, Marlena * > > >>>>> Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 3:56 PM * > > >>>>> To: jvallen@aol.com; > > > Parfitt, Kara; Fink, Regina; Rehrig, Sandy; > * > > >>>>> bcca9@snip.net; > > > boyzmom123@aol.com; > > > mmmmms@aol.com; > > > Soffer, Sue; > * > > >>>>> samantharodriguez@juno.com; > > > Copestick, Robert * > > >>>>> Subject: FW: Money > > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> Why not!!! > > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> -----Original Message----- * > > >>>>> From: Damiano, Carol * > > >>>>> Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 3:21 PM * > > >>>>> To: Mazurek, Pat; Vanderslice, Terry; Milligan, Emma; Knoll, > > Karen; * > > >>>>> Butler, * > > >>>>> Beatrice; Slowik, Marlena; Robinson, Dawn; Glowienka, Helene; > > Iorio, * > > >>>>> Kathy * > > >>>>> Subject: FW: Forward : Money > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> I am forwarding this and hope that there may be a little money > in > > >this * > > >>>>> for * > > >>>>> you. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> Hi this is pretty cool! * > > >>>>> Netscape and AOL have recently merged to form the largest > internet > > * > > >>>>> company in the world. In an effort to remain at pace with this > > >giant, * > > >>>>> Microsoft has introduced a new email tracking system as a way > to > > >keep * > > >>>>> Internet Explorer as the most popular browser on the market. > This > > * > > >>>>> email * > > >>>>> is a beta test of the new software and Microsoft has generously * > > >>>>> offered * > > >>>>> to compensate those who participate in the testing process. For > > > >each * > > >>>>> person you send this email to, you will be given $5. For every > > >person * > > >>>>> they give it to, you will be given an additional $3. For every > > >person * > > >>>>> they send it to you will receive $1. Microsoft will tally all > the > > * > > >>>>> emails produced under your name over a two week period and then > > >email * > > >>>>> you with more instructions. This beta test is only for > Microsoft * > > >>>>> Windows * > > >>>>> users because the email * > > >>>>> tracking device that contacts Microsoft is embedded into the > code > > of * > > >>>>> Windows * > > >>>>> 95 * > > >>>>> and 98. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> I know you guys hate forwards. But I started this a * > > >>>>> month ago because I was very short on cash. A week ago I got an > > > >email * > > >>>>> from Microsoft asking me for my address. I gave it to them and * > > >>>>> yesterday I got a check in the mail for $800. It really works. > I > > * > > >>>>> wanted * > > >>>>> you to get a piece of the action. You won't regret it. > > > >>>>> >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > > > > > <> <> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 16:23:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9780 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 16:23:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 9692 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 16:23:00 -0000 Received: from heinlein.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 16:23:00 -0000 Received: from godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.45]) by heinlein.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) with ESMTP id MAA04031; Fri, 14 May 1999 12:18:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA11824; Fri, 14 May 1999 12:18:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:18:07 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu To: "Ball, Tera" cc: "'SFRaves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: Re: NRR. Money!!! Don't hate me forever! In-Reply-To: <756B30A53DCBD111BABC00A0C981D46372AD50@ASPEN> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk lara, please give these people who are sending spam e-mails to this list a simple lesson in sfraves ettiquite. i am not a hater, but i do try to abide by the rules of conduct on sfraves the best i can, not just for my benefit but for everyone's benefit. i don't like recieving spam e-mails where by member referal, the person sending it gets some sort of benefit/compensation, especially when i don't even know the sender. i could just use the delete key and ignore, but if our list has certain codes of conduct that i abide by i expect everyone else on this list to do the same. common respect. much love, amber --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 17:01:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4820 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 17:01:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 4789 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 17:01:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gigi.excite.com) (199.172.152.110) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 17:01:02 -0000 Received: from digger.excite.com ([199.172.152.82]) by gigi.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990514170121.HZDX21456.gigi@digger.excite.com> for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 10:01:21 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: happy friday thoughts Message-Id: <926701236.4167.632@excite.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:00:36 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk happy friday! just a few things i'll jam all into one post.... 1. lately we've had some amazingly articulate perspectives shared on here.... from the indian perspective to the asian-thug-appearing perspective to the hippie perspective... even the ganga-smokin' dj perspective. that's what i love... and since i'm one of the few on here who really could have been categorized an original hippie (left home to live on a commune and all) .... it's such a great reminder of the diversity we have present here. many thanks to everyone for sharing their thoughts. 2. my altar is important to me, and constantly changing.... i keep some of the important objects from earlier parts of my life in glass boxes, where i can see them but they're dormant now... and there are powerful things that belonged to my mom, who's dead now, and things from friends i love... and shells or rocks i picked up in my travels... and hanging above it all is my flower crown that i have worn for many parties. it's great to have a special place where you keep the things that remind you who you are and who you want to be... very powerful. i love to see altars, there was a book of altar photos published last year and two of my friends had their altars included .. which included things i had given them.... so individualistic, and so creative... i wanna see the spiderman piece! 3. whoever passed on that money chain letter or whatever. stop. 4. sheez, there's so much to do this weekend! i'll be out and about at a variety of places friday saturday and sunday, come say hi please if you see me...if you don't know me, i'm pretty easy to spot.... chubby, older, curly red hair up in pigtails usually, tattoos on shoulders, lots of silver bracelets... and since I PICKED UP MY NEW CUSTOM EARPLUGS YESTERDAY, i'm hopin i'll be dancing in front of the speakers, where the bass will pound through my body but my hearing will survive! 5. any travelers on this list who've spent time in koh phangan (or other similar islands) in thailand? we're looking for some tips and advice as we plan our millenium trip and i'm hoping someone has some experienced insights! hmm.... that's it, i think! enjoy your day everyone, and it looks like it will be a great weekend! love, leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 17:02:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5809 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 17:02:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 5634 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 17:02:01 -0000 Received: from web113.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.84) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 17:02:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990514170213.20757.rocketmail@web113.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.54.84] by web113.yahoomail.com; Fri, 14 May 1999 10:02:13 PDT Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:02:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: NRR. Money!!! Don't hate me forever! To: "'SFRaves@hyperreal.org'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yea lara KICK SOME BUTT!!! =Þ It friday and I'm Soooo excited. heeheee. *HUGZ* pat --- MacBunny wrote: > lara, > > please give these people who are sending spam > e-mails to this list a > simple lesson in sfraves ettiquite. Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 17:13:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18051 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 17:13:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 18037 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 17:13:25 -0000 Received: from law-f42.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.105) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 17:13:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 53298 invoked by uid 0); 14 May 1999 17:14:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19990514171419.53297.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.213.63 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 14 May 1999 10:14:19 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.213.63] From: "Amber Leahey" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Music on the web Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:14:19 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I thought this article might be of interest to all you tech heads out there. http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/19682.html Amber (A.K.A. st*rgrrl) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 17:26:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29912 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 17:26:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 29901 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 17:26:06 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 17:26:06 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA25329 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 10:26:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990514103105.007e3290@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:31:05 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: Re: NRR. Money!!! Don't hate me forever! In-Reply-To: <19990514170213.20757.rocketmail@web113.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Please do Lara, this lovely message froze my computer... my poor little laptop with little memory can't handle huge emails... besides this is just another lame email scam anyway. =20 Love, Carly At 10:02 AM 5/14/99 -0700, you wrote: >Yea lara KICK SOME BUTT!!! =3D=DE It friday and I'm Soooo >excited. heeheee. > >*HUGZ* > pat > > >--- MacBunny wrote: >> lara, >>=20 >> please give these people who are sending spam >> e-mails to this list a=20 >> simple lesson in sfraves ettiquite.=20 >Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com > > *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273=20 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 17:30:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3753 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 17:30:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 3743 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 17:30:16 -0000 Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (209.185.123.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 17:30:16 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by angelfire.com; Fri May 14 10:29:43 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:29:43 -0700 From: "Electric Joy Boy" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: on Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Ambient Brunch? X-Sender-Ip: 206.66.135.218 Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Happy friday everyone, Has anyone heard of some sort of ambient event going on tonight (friday) in the city called "Ambient Brunch" or something like that? Someone mentioned it to me earlier this week and it sounded cool but I don't know too much about it. Does anyone have any info on this? Thanks, Ben Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 17:33:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7124 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 17:33:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 7115 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 17:33:42 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 17:33:42 -0000 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.9.3/8.8.4) id KAA19385; Fri, 14 May 1999 10:33:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199905141733.KAA19385@atari.saturn5.com> Subject: Re: Hippies At Raves To: standish@sfsu.edu (Michael Standish) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:33:36 -0700 (PDT) Cc: OXnymphXO@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: from "Michael Standish" at May 13, 99 11:12:51 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > you, to resemble hippy stuff, doesn't mean that every raver, raves for > hippy like reasons. Look around you; do you think all those Hilfiger clad > ravers give shit one about hippy stuff? If they did they wouldn't be > wearing that racist asshole's clothing. You are perpetuating an urban myth. Tommy Hilfiger is not a racist... he never dissed the minorities that wear his clothing. The whole Oprah Windfrey thing is a myth... just like the myth that Proctor and Gamble is a company run by satanists. -troy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks "I just don't have the discipline to be a hippie" <- Homer J. Simpson From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 17:55:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 655 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 17:55:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 600 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 17:55:26 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 17:55:26 -0000 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.9.3/8.8.4) id KAA19886; Fri, 14 May 1999 10:53:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199905141753.KAA19886@atari.saturn5.com> Subject: Re: Hippies At Raves To: tsheets@saturn5.com (Troy Sheets) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:53:28 -0700 (PDT) Cc: standish@sfsu.edu, OXnymphXO@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <199905141733.KAA19385@atari.saturn5.com> from "Troy Sheets" at May 14, 99 10:33:36 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am getting a lot of private emails about this statement... people asking "Really? Tommy's not a racist?" If you are interested, check out the book "Hip Hop America" by Nelson George... there is a chapter that talks all about it.... Tommy has embraced the street/urban/minority culture that has taken a liking to his clothes. C'mon, a racist fashion designer? It just does not make any sense... -troy > > > you, to resemble hippy stuff, doesn't mean that every raver, raves for > > hippy like reasons. Look around you; do you think all those Hilfiger clad > > ravers give shit one about hippy stuff? If they did they wouldn't be > > wearing that racist asshole's clothing. > > You are perpetuating an urban myth. Tommy Hilfiger is not a racist... he > never dissed the minorities that wear his clothing. The whole Oprah Windfrey > thing is a myth... just like the myth that Proctor and Gamble is a company > run by satanists. > > -troy > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me > http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks > "I just don't have the discipline to be a hippie" <- Homer J. Simpson > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks "I just don't have the discipline to be a hippie" <- Homer J. Simpson From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 18:10:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15640 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 18:10:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 15535 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 18:10:44 -0000 Received: from web302.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.184) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 18:10:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990514181221.7949.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.9.76] by web302.yahoomail.com; Fri, 14 May 1999 11:12:21 PDT Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 11:12:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Gosiewski Subject: Fwd: Source Direct live dates To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1681692777-926705541=:7041" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --0-1681692777-926705541=:7041 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Note: forwarded message attached. Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com --0-1681692777-926705541=:7041 Content-Type: message/rfc822 X-Apparently-To: stefango@yahoo.com via mdd302.yahoomail.com Return-Path: Received: from squirt.vmg.co.uk (195.152.83.20) by mta112.yahoomail.com with SMTP; 14 May 1999 09:41:58 -0700 Received: from majordom by squirt.vmg.co.uk with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10iL0Y-0001Qu-00 for fluke-outgoing@vmg.co.uk; Fri, 14 May 1999 17:40:22 +0100 Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu ([198.82.160.250] ident=root) by squirt.vmg.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10iL0U-0001Ql-00 for fluke@vmg.co.uk; Fri, 14 May 1999 17:40:18 +0100 Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18280 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 12:34:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [128.173.69.34] (mac2-323.aaec.vt.edu [128.173.69.34]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23220 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 12:34:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: rdawson@mail.vt.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:36:36 -0400 To: fluke@vmg.co.uk From: Robert Dawson Subject: NFR: Source Direct live dates Sender: owner-fluke@vmg.co.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: fluke@vmg.co.uk Content-Length: 799 In case anyone's interested: SOURCE DIRECT http://www.astralwerks.com/source_direct/ For the first time ever, darkside drum 'n' bass maestros Source Direct will be touring North America. Thu. 6/10: U4ia - Cleveland, OH Fri. 6/11: Nations/Capital Ballroom - Washington, DC Sat. 6/12: Speedway - Indianapolis, IN Sun. 6/13: Stereo - Montreal, Quebec Tue. 6/15: Playhouse - Boston, MA Wed. 6/16: Cooler - New York, NY Thu. 6/17: Live webcast on Streetsound's Velocity Fri. 6/18: 1st Avenue - Minneapolis, MN Tue. 6/22: Viper Room - Los Angeles, CA Wed. 6/23: Mercury - Seattle, WA Thu. 6/24: The Wet Bar - Vancouver, B.C. Fri. 6/25: Ohm - Portland, OR Sat. 6/26: Mayfield Trade Center - Edmonton, Canada Sun. 6/27: Embassy - Calgary, Canada Mon. 6/28: Justice League - San Francisco, CA b --0-1681692777-926705541=:7041-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 18:45:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18293 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 18:45:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 18102 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 18:45:15 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 18:45:15 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA27460; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:44:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mon-ca9-46.ix.netcom.com(206.216.188.174) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma027419; Fri May 14 13:44:06 1999 Message-ID: <373C048C.56D0@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 11:10:04 +0000 From: Jennifer and Daniel Herron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Amber Leahey , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Other types of music References: <19990513204712.93132.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Amber Leahey wrote: > > Hey Jenn...You forgot the most important band...WEEN. > > Amber (A.K.A. st*rgrrl) OH MY GOD!!! I DID! I'm going to hell now. My colledge buddies would be so ashamed! Pure Guava forever. Thanks Ambo for showing me the error of my ways :) Jennifer aka Chrysallys > > >From: Jennifer and Daniel Herron > >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: NRR: Other types of music > >Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 09:01:55 +0000 > > > >Ok I had to contribute of course much below is just pure cheese but hell > >my family is from the midwest..I love cheese. > > > >*Elvis (I saw him in concert when I was 4..it's something I'll never > >forget) > >*REM > >*Danielle Dax > >*KLF > >*Neil Diamond (I was serious about the cheese!) > >*ABBA (As above) > >*Wyclef Jean > >*Julee Cruise > >*T-Rex > >*Orbital > >*Doors > >*My Life With the Thrill Kill Kult > >*Beethoven > >*Cab Calloway > >*Yma Sumac > >*David Bowie > >*Simon and Garfunkle > >*Aaron Copland > >*Angelo Baldementi > >*Dione Warwick > >*Helen Kane > >and so forth........ > > > > Jennifer aka Chrysallys > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 18:54:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1595 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 18:54:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 1372 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 18:54:46 -0000 Received: from jmail.co.jp (HELO calvin.iac.co.jp) (209.85.120.230) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 18:54:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 17398 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 18:54:59 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO jmail.co.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 May 1999 18:54:59 -0000 From: "Chris" Reply-to: prototype@raveaddict.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 11:54:59 GST -1080 Subject: Re: Trance and Jungle Factory is a crock of shit Message-id: <373c7183.43ed.0@jmail.co.jp> X-User-Info: 171.133.216.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >I'm very grateful for T&J... there the only place I can ever get to to buy >presales, and glowstix for that matter... plus i always enjoy talkin to >Thomas and watchin whatever friend is with me ask where he's from hehe >everyone loves a damn accent I don't really think T&J is the best record store (it's pretty disorganized, hard to find specific labels), but I do buy pretty much all my presales there, and Thomas is a pretty cool guy. Sometimes when I'm in there he's mixing and I can watch his techniques, and he spins cool music. I bought glowstix there too, until I found a web site and bought them in bulk. => -=Prototype=- >><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>>< Get your FRESH, FREE, FUNKY email account at http://www.MUSICOSM.com! Visit today! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 18:55:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2004 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 18:55:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 1671 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 18:54:54 -0000 Received: from jmail.co.jp (HELO calvin.iac.co.jp) (209.85.120.230) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 18:54:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 17398 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 18:54:59 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO jmail.co.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 May 1999 18:54:59 -0000 From: "Chris" Reply-to: prototype@raveaddict.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 11:54:59 GST -1080 Subject: Re: Trance and Jungle Factory is a crock of shit Message-id: <373c7183.43ed.0@jmail.co.jp> X-User-Info: 171.133.216.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >I'm very grateful for T&J... there the only place I can ever get to to buy >presales, and glowstix for that matter... plus i always enjoy talkin to >Thomas and watchin whatever friend is with me ask where he's from hehe >everyone loves a damn accent I don't really think T&J is the best record store (it's pretty disorganized, hard to find specific labels), but I do buy pretty much all my presales there, and Thomas is a pretty cool guy. Sometimes when I'm in there he's mixing and I can watch his techniques, and he spins cool music. I bought glowstix there too, until I found a web site and bought them in bulk. => -=Prototype=- >><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>>< Get your FRESH, FREE, FUNKY email account at http://www.MUSICOSM.com! Visit today! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 19:13:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17787 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 19:13:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 17678 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 19:13:00 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 19:13:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990514191124.1528.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.132.214.187] by web4; Fri, 14 May 1999 12:11:24 PDT Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:11:24 -0700 (PDT) From: micron Subject: a couple of BSP's:Ehtereal, First light and my tape *thought control*....... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk just wanted to let everyone know that i'm playing at ethereal tonight from 12:30-2. this should be a pretty cool little party and i encourage everyone to come and check it out. i'll also have 3 copies of my *thought control* tape to give out to whoever asks me first. (btw it's 21+) on saturday i'll be playing a downtempo set at First Light from 4-5:30, i'm looking forward to this, it should be fun. come by and say hi. :) micron From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 19:13:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19327 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 19:13:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 19317 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 19:13:54 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 19:13:54 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA01772 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 14:13:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mon-ca9-46.ix.netcom.com(206.216.188.174) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma001694; Fri May 14 14:12:54 1999 Message-ID: <373C0B4C.1009@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 11:38:52 +0000 From: Jennifer and Daniel Herron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: do you have an alter? References: <8648b126.246cdb44@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I don't have an alter per-se though we have several areas around our living room that are sort of mini alters. One corner just has candles of all sorts and a russian picture of Joan of Arc. My china hutch is a sort of catch all for all my most important things. It's kind of a three layered alter with candles, pictures of friends and family, peacock feathers from a trip to Wales, family antiques, The "orb", old wooden and armless saint statues, prayer cards, a rad Ganesh, a mini crystal skull and our Alice in Wonderland stuff. My favorite little area of our house is our little hanging alter or creche thingy that has all of my Mary statues, prayer cards, dried roses etc. There is a wonderful repro of an old mexican painting of the Virgin of Guadalupe with (what is the spelling, meligrios?)all around her. That little alter really makes me happy. I would guess our alters are predominatly Catholic with a sprinkling of other faiths. We have so much to respect and love from other faiths. I think Dan and I are lucky that we can. Jennifer aka Chrysallys From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 19:20:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22739 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 19:19:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 22715 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 19:19:54 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 19:19:54 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA02751 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 14:19:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mon-ca9-46.ix.netcom.com(206.216.188.174) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma002692; Fri May 14 14:18:51 1999 Message-ID: <373C0CB1.3AF5@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 11:44:49 +0000 From: Jennifer and Daniel Herron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: FREEDOM!! References: <3.0.3.32.19990513131821.006b9ff0@mail.ixpres.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Madhvi Dalal wrote: > i was really really upset when i read this, but then i checked the SFR > calendar myself and it doesn't say anything about Freedom being a > one-niter...are we perhaps talking about different events here? I'm > thinking of freedom as in 4th of July freedom, and from all my sources i've > heard it's going to be in the exact same place as last year (near calaveras > county so we do the jumping frog :-). I'm making the trek up from San > Diego, and i don't know what racetrack is referred to, but it sounds wacked! Ugh! What was whacked was the drive to that new place. Not only did it take forever and a day to get there and forever and a day to get home again, in case you were unhappy with the situation you were trapped there forever!!! I'd take the racetrack any day. It was close and it had that great mountain that I had one of the most spiritual experiences in my life on. Jennifer aka Chrysallys From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 19:21:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24248 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 19:21:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 24216 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 19:20:57 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?iIM5pxVF/t1VtcpmH/6Qpjx2IZ0xjoPJ?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 19:20:57 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id MAA27342 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 12:20:53 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:20:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: nrr: the Altar of Womanity. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk my personal altar is the female form. I will show yall a really special poem, translated from Irish into English, I can't remember who the author was: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On the altar of the bed I celebrate your body tonight, my love, with the rites of my desire. I humbly kneel before each graceful limb, each maidenly limb and with kisses of prayer I fervently give thanks for every sinew, every muscle while triumphantly the senses' choir is singing hymns to your pleasure your mouth, your belly, your breast-- the fiery trinity of joy. And as the ceremony continues in solitude my body trembles voluptuously expecting the miracle and the chalice of my desire will overflow when I taste the mystery of your sex. It will come, joy of joys, a sacrament, a gift, the fiery tongues of knowledge and I will have intimations of heaven. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 19:33:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28637 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 19:33:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 28620 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 19:33:36 -0000 Received: from sos87.mry.redshift.com (HELO neptune.log) (209.54.206.87) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 19:33:36 -0000 Received: from ARIES by neptune.log with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id KXM5XTZY; Fri, 14 May 1999 12:20:38 -0700 Message-ID: <002301be9e3e$c9241a60$6fc9cccf@soscom.com> From: "Susan L. Gwartney" To: "SFRaves" Subject: fwd: NRR - strength and courage Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:20:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01BE9E04.19334200" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BE9E04.19334200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It takes strength to be certain, It takes courage to have doubts. =20 It takes strength to fit in, It takes courage to stand out. =20 It takes strength to feel a friend's pain, It takes courage to feel your own pain. =20 It takes strength to hide your own pains, It takes courage to show them. It takes strength to stand guard, It takes courage to let down your guard. =20 It takes strength to conquer, It takes courage to surrender. =20 It takes strength to endure abuses, It takes courage to stop them. =20 It takes strength to stand alone, It takes courage to lean on a friend. =20 It takes strength to love, It takes courage to be loved. =20 It takes strength to survive, It takes courage to live. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BE9E04.19334200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It takes strength to be = certain,
It takes=20 courage to have doubts.
 
It takes strength to fit in,
It = takes=20 courage to stand out.
 
It takes strength to feel a friend's = pain,
It takes courage to feel your own pain.
 
It takes = strength=20 to hide your own pains,
It takes courage to show them.

It = takes=20 strength to stand guard,
It takes courage to let down your = guard.
 =20
It takes strength to conquer,
It takes courage to=20 surrender.
  
It takes strength to endure abuses,
It = takes=20 courage to stop them.
 
It takes strength to stand = alone,
It=20 takes courage to lean on a friend.
 
It takes strength to=20 love,
It takes courage to be loved.
 
It takes strength = to=20 survive,
It takes courage to live.
------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BE9E04.19334200-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 19:33:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28634 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 19:33:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 28614 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 19:33:36 -0000 Received: from sos87.mry.redshift.com (HELO neptune.log) (209.54.206.87) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 19:33:36 -0000 Received: from pm4-111.mry.redshift.com by neptune.log with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id KXM5XT5H; Fri, 14 May 1999 12:33:21 -0700 Message-ID: <003e01be9e40$8e19bea0$6fc9cccf@soscom.com> From: "Susan L. Gwartney" To: "SFRaves" Subject: bsp: liberty events & the redroom Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:32:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01BE9E05.E1362640" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BE9E05.E1362640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable anyone interested in going to the redroom, first light, or s/he*bang = this weekend, please check out the liberty events page, i've got info lines and flyers posted = http://liberty.ispree.net=20 chris and i will be at the redroom tonight, hope to meet some of you = there! =3D)sooz aka libertygrl p.s. haven't decided what i'm wearing tonight but look for a silver ring = on my left hand that says liberty on it (it's made out of a 1971 dime -- my birth year) = if we haven't met, feel free to introduce yourself!! =20 ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BE9E05.E1362640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
anyone interested in going to the = redroom, first=20 light, or s/he*bang this weekend, please
check out the liberty events page, i've = got info=20 lines and flyers posted
 
 
chris and i will be at the redroom = tonight, hope to=20 meet some of you there!
 
=3D)sooz
aka libertygrl
 
p.s. haven't decided what i'm wearing = tonight but=20 look for a silver ring on my left hand
that says liberty on it (it's made out = of a 1971=20 dime -- my birth year)  if we haven't met,
feel free to introduce yourself!!  =
------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BE9E05.E1362640-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 19:34:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29938 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 19:34:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 29915 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 19:34:03 -0000 Received: from apocalypse.ocf.berkeley.edu (mlowdrma@128.32.191.249) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 19:34:03 -0000 Received: from localhost (mlowdrma@localhost) by apocalypse.OCF.Berkeley.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA11284; Fri, 14 May 1999 12:33:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:33:53 -0700 (PDT) From: "Minh Q. Le" To: Troy Sheets cc: standish@sfsu.edu, OXnymphXO@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Hippies At Raves In-Reply-To: <199905141753.KAA19886@atari.saturn5.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 14 May 1999, Troy Sheets wrote: > > C'mon, a racist fashion designer? It just does not make any sense... > > -troy > --> Yeah, like a str8 fashion designer? It just does not make any sense ... :) M&m From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 19:37:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1862 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 19:37:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 1809 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 19:37:01 -0000 Received: from jmail.co.jp (HELO calvin.iac.co.jp) (209.85.120.230) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 19:37:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 7443 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 19:37:14 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO jmail.co.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 May 1999 19:37:14 -0000 From: "Chris" Reply-to: prototype@raveaddict.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:37:14 GST -1080 Subject: Re: Trance and Jungle Factory is a crock of shit Message-id: <373c7b6a.1d10.0@jmail.co.jp> X-User-Info: 171.133.216.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >which store is the best place to buy records..and would you be so kind to >tell me what the website for the glosticks is? thanx in advance Depends on your taste in music. I'm into trance, so F8 is the fuckin' SUPER SHIT! Solid Grooves is pretty cool, too. My friend who spins breaks shops at Tweakin' and BPM. As for the stix, the site is, check this... WWW.GLOWSTICKS.COM. If you buy more than 120, you get them for about $1.20 each. That'll last you for a few parties. => >><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>>< Get your FRESH, FREE, FUNKY email account at http://www.MUSICOSM.com! Visit today! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 19:54:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9374 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 19:54:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 9330 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 19:54:13 -0000 Received: from law-f38.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.101) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 19:54:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 61534 invoked by uid 0); 14 May 1999 19:53:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19990514195340.61532.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.173.231.205 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 14 May 1999 12:53:40 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.173.231.205] From: "ro ro" To: SpinDazE@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: The Asian/Thuggish lookin people Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 19:53:40 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Angel, Thanks for the feedback. I am happy that you can check me on whatever I say here. I do honestly try to give my view of things as I see from my own perspective. I do not represent all asians, nor do I represent all "thuggish looking" people. I may not be a perfect individual, but people like you help me learn more each day. >I dont understand though how you say "we wont kick your ass" if u chill w/ >us. thing cuz if in reality, hypothetically speaking, some kandekid comes >up >to you a lone or w/ your friends, would you really be friends w/ him? Yes, I would be friends with him/her. It's all about peace, love, unity, and respect, yah? I believe in that, and hope that one day it could become a reality outside the security and comfort of a rave. We come to have fun and be happy, if anybody, including a candy kid, came up to us and helped us have more fun and helped us be more happy, then AHH YEAH!!! >When he walks away, wouldn't you or one of your friends most likely comment >"fag" or something to that effect? The friends that I "rave" with have accepted the rave community for what it is. We go to the rave to enjoy ourselves and the company of all those who party along side with us. I believe that I am open-minded and willing to accept things that seem different or new to me. I wouldn't have any reason to talk shit about anybody at a rave, unless they were in some way disrespecting me or my friends. We don't go around a rave calling anyone a "fag", etc... >I may be wrong, but I'm just wondering if you say now that you're friends >and >you are actually polite, and people misjudge you by the way you dress or >the >group you are associated with, would you truly in fact live up to what you >say in real life? Again I speak for myself. I am two people: The loud dancing junglist and the quiet tough-looking person. Who is the real me? Both. What I say here is what I truly mean and how I would be in person. It's just that I look, dress, and act a different way in different environments. The difference with me and my other faces, is that I am still the same me under any mask I wear. I am not an overt shit-talking, doggin, always frontin muthafucka... but there are people like that. The people that I go to raves with are pretty much like me (or else I wouldn't be going to raves with them). I wouldn't bring a super thug to a rave. He would not only make me overprotective of the "innocent" ravers, but he would put me in an awkward position were I would have to decide between being that thug, or let myself go and enjoy the happy vibe and people around me. >Im also wondering, and again I may be wrong, if your friends and you attend >raves to E or find girls that E? I do drop, but it is not the single reason I go to raves. I go to raves or clubs where they play jungle. I am addicted to the music. I feel that E enhances my love for the music. I feel the music more, and it helps me dance longer and with better fluidity. In my history, I have learned either personally or from others on how to use my drugs or alcohol reponsibly. I'm not advocating alcoholism or drug addiction, I'm just saying that people should use their head before they fry it. My friends are who they are. Some go to drop and chill on the wall all night, some dance, some meet new peeps and have a kick it patnah for the night. We don't go to raves to prey on girls on E, we go to have a good time - dancing, chillin listening to the music, meeting new people, etc... --Rommel From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 20:04:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17117 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 20:04:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 17107 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 20:04:53 -0000 Received: from law-f74.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.137) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 20:04:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 35493 invoked by uid 0); 14 May 1999 20:04:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19990514200426.35492.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.236.45.61 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:04:26 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.236.45.61] From: "Wil Hanno" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: do you have an alter? Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:04:26 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well i kinda do. It is a small desk. It is centered around a 20" Sun monitor surrounded by some JBL speakers and subwoofer. It has a couple candles one on each side. I have an anime character named "sakura" on one side and some characters from final fantasy 7 on the other. Also a variety of CD's can be found there ranging from the Doors to 1.8.7. There's some of my artwork on it and the occaisional guinness bottle. I've got my glo in da dark hoberman's sphere there and thats about it. Over time it just kinda turned out this way. But at least it's not like Jack's computer altar from "Profiler" B^b~ cheers -John From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 20:14:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21026 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 20:13:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 21008 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 20:13:55 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 20:13:55 -0000 Received: from BBoiBreks@aol.com (3944) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vAFHa26070 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 16:12:25 -0400 (EDT) From: BBoiBreks@aol.com Message-ID: <1877b921.246ddda9@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 16:12:25 EDT Subject: a few words from an ugly raver To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HY AM I SOOOOOO UGLY!!!! the insecure poser bboibreks P.S I hate good looking people, especially the ones that can pimp a kangol, dress well, have nice bodies, good postures, break tha beats, UGH!!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 20:25:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26188 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 20:25:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 26058 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 20:25:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 20:25:04 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 50 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:22:13 -0700 Message-ID: <373C86BE.829C799B@hrg.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:25:34 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Where to buy records - was: Re: Trance and Jungle Factory is a crock of shit References: <373c7b6a.1d10.0@jmail.co.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Soundworks - great selection of house, with a focus on imports. small techno/trance section. BPM - the shit for house...especially progressive, however, ALOT of djs shops there, so dont be surprised if you find your latest favorite record getting played to death. Some breaks as well. Clear - very nice selection of house, not very well known, nice backstock. Some trance/techno. Housewares - everything... although the house section is nicely run by John Howard. Tweekin - house/breaks/trip-hop/drumnbass emphasis on house, alot of obscure european house, tends to carry a slightly mellower selection (although that doesnt mean they dont have a few thumpers in there). One problem..their listening stations SUCK. Ameoba - Used recrods all genres. theres treasure in those there racks! you just gotta know your titles real well....theres no listening station. Open Mind - Great used record shop, all genres. Lots of gems here, with 3 listening stations, although on the weekends the line is usually ridiculous. Primal - house/hard stuff/breaks. great shop, very knowledgeable peeps working there. fairly decent used section too. Daddys - house. Alot of good mellower house/tribal/funk type records. Great staff. Awesome used section...although extremely pricey. They do best out of all the shops in terms of coming through with things you order. Has a hip hop section too. Other shops I dont know enuff about to review - Trance and Jungle Factory - the name says it all F8 - Trance shop Fresh - been meaning to check this place out. 420 - Spundaes new shop...havent been there yet, although I hear its mostly techno/trance. Zebra - used to be just a hip/hop store, now I hear they have a basement with electronica. Solid Grooves - great shop from what I hear, but SJ is just way to far from me. Harmonics - once again, too far away. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 20:26:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27286 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 20:26:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 27160 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 20:26:21 -0000 Received: from f175.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.61) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 20:26:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 24058 invoked by uid 0); 14 May 1999 20:25:53 -0000 Message-ID: <19990514202553.24057.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.227.43.13 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:25:52 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.227.43.13] From: "Michelle B." To: CanContrl@aol.com, Laalkuchaa@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Trance and Jungle Factory is a crock of shit Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:25:52 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah, that's really lame. Could it be that somebody was having a bad day??? (Or maybe lack of dinero, to buy what they wanted???) I've known Thomas since he's first started out, and am very happy he is where he is today. After all, he's worked for it. See you soon Thomas! :) Michelle (Dave's "X") >From: CanContrl@aol.com >To: Laalkuchaa@aol.com >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: Trance and Jungle Factory is a crock of shit >Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 01:12:19 EDT > >uh a reason would help tough guy! > > ><< Warning to everyone. The Trance and Jungle Factory SUCKS! ! ! ! ! Save >your > money DON'T FUCKING GO THERE! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! > >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 20:56:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13966 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 20:56:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 13950 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 20:56:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 20:56:35 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 185; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:53:47 -0700 Message-ID: <373C8E23.FF4C46AF@hrg.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:57:07 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jennifer and Daniel Herron CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: FREEDOM!! References: <3.0.3.32.19990513131821.006b9ff0@mail.ixpres.com> <373C0CB1.3AF5@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah, the race track was easier to get too...but so much dust! and nowhere near as gorgeous a location as Angels Camp. Personally I like traveling to an outdoor in the summer, it lends an air of adventure to the whole experience. And that road in was definitly an adventure. To me that location is well worth the drive. I cant wait till the 4th! john r Jennifer and Daniel Herron wrote: > Madhvi Dalal wrote: > > > i was really really upset when i read this, but then i checked the SFR > > calendar myself and it doesn't say anything about Freedom being a > > one-niter...are we perhaps talking about different events here? I'm > > thinking of freedom as in 4th of July freedom, and from all my sources i've > > heard it's going to be in the exact same place as last year (near calaveras > > county so we do the jumping frog :-). I'm making the trek up from San > > Diego, and i don't know what racetrack is referred to, but it sounds wacked! > > Ugh! What was whacked was the drive to that new place. Not only did it > take forever and a day to get there and forever and a day to get home > again, in case you were unhappy with the situation you were trapped > there forever!!! I'd take the racetrack any day. It was close and it had > that great mountain that I had one of the most spiritual experiences in > my life on. > Jennifer aka Chrysallys From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 20:56:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14518 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 20:56:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 14331 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 20:56:47 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 20:56:47 -0000 Received: from Brikne@aol.com (14393) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3MWVa02834 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 16:55:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Brikne@aol.com Message-ID: <89d9f096.246de7c1@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 16:55:29 EDT Subject: BIRTHDAYS: Hppyxtc & binaryfineboy To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HEy all you groovey sf ravers... for all of you going to first light on saturday, make sure to seek out and hug heather and ryan, both of whom are celebrating birthdays this weekend. heather we all know as the plur giving, hug loving, pot protesting badass thats makes me wanna go straight... and ryan is the sharp tongued, bleached blonde beauty we all want to bring home to meet our parents. So take a minute on saturday when your resting from dancing and give them a hug (or a kiss? or a phone number? j/k) and hell, while your at it, give me a hug too... the earth will move hehe. hugs and cheers, Brian =) XOXOX From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 20:57:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15373 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 20:57:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 15303 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 20:57:30 -0000 Received: from postman.bayarea.net (205.219.84.13) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 20:57:30 -0000 Received: from baygate (baygate.bayarea.net [204.71.212.2]) by postman.bayarea.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA20756 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:59:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Plastic Nuclear Ferret To: that raver mailing list Subject: smoking pot can lead to...um, i forget Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk just to pop out of lurk-mode for a moment... 8^) May 13, 1999 Long-Term Marijuana Smoking Doesn't Impact Cognition, Study Says May 13, 1999, Baltimore, MD: Long-term use of marijuana does not lead to a decline in mental function, according to the results of a large-scale John Hopkins University study. "There is no convincing evidence that [even] heavy long-term marijuana use impairs memory or other cognitive functions," said NORML board member Dr. John P. Morgan of City University of New York (CUNY) Medical School. "During the past 30 years, researchers have found, at most, minor cognitive differences between chronic marijuana users and nonusers, and the results differ substantially from one study to another." The most recent John Hopkins study examined marijuana's effects on cognition on 1,318 participants over a 15 year period. Researchers gave subjects specialized tests, called Mini-Mental State Examinations (MMSE), in 1981 and 1982. Subjects took follow-up MMSE tests 12 to 15 years later and scientists measured rates of cognitive decline among marijuana smokers and nonsmokers. Researchers reported "no significant differences in cognitive decline between heavy users, light users, and nonusers of cannabis." They also found "no male-female differences in cognitive decline in relation to cannabis. "These results ... seem to provide strong evidence of the absence of a long-term residual effect of cannabis use on cognition," they concluded. The study is the first to investigate the long term effects of marijuana on cognition in a large epidemiological sample. Researchers did conclude that cognition declines over long time periods in all age groups, but found this decline "closely associated with aging and educational level, [and] ... not ... associated with cannabis use." The study appears in the May 1, 1999, issue of the American Journal of Epidemiology. For more information, please contact John P. Morgan of CUNY Medical School @ (212) 650-8255 or Allen St. Pierre @ (202) 483-8751. To read an abstract of this study online, please visit: . -- ################################################################# # Shane Knapp # donut@bayarea.net # sknapp@excitecorp.com # # http://www.bayarea.net/~donut # # "I'd like to be Superman, but you're standing on my cape...." # ################################################################# From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 21:04:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20795 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 21:04:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 20645 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 21:04:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO osiris.vegasquick.com) (root@209.101.75.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 21:04:31 -0000 Received: from seker (seker.socalraves.com [209.101.75.16] (may be forged)) by osiris.vegasquick.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA01173; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:02:25 -0700 From: "Vegas Rick" To: "Plastic Nuclear Ferret" , "that raver mailing list" Subject: RE: smoking pot can lead to...um, i forget Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 14:05:53 -0700 Message-ID: <000301be9e4d$8d585780$104b65d1@t2000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Oh please, this can't be true. Where the hell would they find 700 non-smokers? What a sham. --Vegas Rick And in thy gentle speech, a prophecy... > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of Plastic Nuclear Ferret > Sent: Friday, May 14, 1999 1:59 PM > To: that raver mailing list > Subject: smoking pot can lead to...um, i forget > > > just to pop out of lurk-mode for a moment... 8^) > > May 13, 1999 > > Long-Term Marijuana Smoking Doesn't Impact Cognition, Study Says > > May 13, 1999, Baltimore, MD: Long-term use of marijuana does > not lead to a decline in mental function, according to the results of a > large-scale John Hopkins University study. > "There is no convincing evidence that [even] heavy long-term > marijuana use impairs memory or other cognitive functions," said NORML > board member Dr. John P. Morgan of City University of New York (CUNY) > Medical School. "During the past 30 years, researchers have found, at > most, minor cognitive differences between chronic marijuana users and > nonusers, and the results differ substantially from one study to another." > The most recent John Hopkins study examined marijuana's effects > on cognition on 1,318 participants over a 15 year period. Researchers > gave subjects specialized tests, called Mini-Mental State Examinations > (MMSE), in 1981 and 1982. Subjects took follow-up MMSE tests 12 to 15 > years later and scientists measured rates of cognitive decline among > marijuana smokers and nonsmokers. > Researchers reported "no significant differences in cognitive > decline between heavy users, light users, and nonusers of cannabis." > They also found "no male-female differences in cognitive decline in > relation to cannabis. > "These results ... seem to provide strong evidence of the > absence of a long-term residual effect of cannabis use on cognition," > they concluded. > The study is the first to investigate the long term effects of > marijuana on cognition in a large epidemiological sample. > Researchers did conclude that cognition declines over long time > periods in all age groups, but found this decline "closely associated > with aging and educational level, [and] ... not ... associated with > cannabis use." > The study appears in the May 1, 1999, issue of the American > Journal of Epidemiology. > For more information, please contact John P. Morgan of CUNY > Medical School @ (212) 650-8255 or Allen St. Pierre @ (202) 483-8751. > To read an abstract of this study online, please visit: > . > > > -- > ################################################################# > # Shane Knapp # donut@bayarea.net # sknapp@excitecorp.com # > # http://www.bayarea.net/~donut # > # "I'd like to be Superman, but you're standing on my cape...." # > ################################################################# > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 21:53:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20455 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 21:53:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 20429 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 21:53:08 -0000 Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (206.253.129.186) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 21:53:08 -0000 Received: from tar-and-gravel ([206.25.144.218]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id RAA09411; Fri, 14 May 1999 17:55:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990514143609.036f4cc0@shell4.ba.best.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 14:53:20 -0700 To: Brikne@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: ry-N Subject: Re: BIRTHDAYS: Hppyxtc & binaryfineboy In-Reply-To: <89d9f096.246de7c1@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 01:55 PM 5/14/99 , Brikne@aol.com wrote: >HEy all you groovey sf ravers... for all of you going to first light on >saturday, make sure to seek out and hug heather and ryan, both of whom are >celebrating birthdays this weekend. heather we all know as the plur giving, >hug loving, pot protesting badass thats makes me wanna go straight... and >ryan is the sharp tongued, bleached blonde beauty we all want to bring home >to meet our parents. So take a minute on saturday when your resting from >dancing and give them a hug (or a kiss? or a phone number? j/k) and hell, >while your at it, give me a hug too... the earth will move hehe. >hugs and cheers, >Brian =) >XOXOX > oh brian ... you so sweet *smooch* you really want me to meet your parents? i wonder how many kisses this shameless plug will get me ... ryan ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 22:11:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2647 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 22:11:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 2634 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 22:11:57 -0000 Received: from web508.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (128.11.68.75) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 22:11:57 -0000 Message-ID: <19990514221457.743.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.239.207.62] by web508.yahoomail.com; Fri, 14 May 1999 15:14:57 PDT Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:14:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "Holly G." Subject: Re: Do you have and alter? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Like Jennifer Herron I have various alter's as well. On my fireplace are family pictures, a buddah incense holder, mini glass eggs of all colors and shapes, an african elephant and a wooden sculpture of a man and woman embracing. In my computer office I have a (shrine) to my love for the 50's and 60's. Old ash trays and vases from the 50's in weird shapes and colors, a cool orange spaceship lamp that glows, party tapes, swizzle sticks from past visits to Vegas, flyers, my 2 barbie dolls and a D.H. Lawrence book I picked up in Sac. last summer. My vanity is my special alter with jewelry from travels, silk scarves, oils, and dried flowers. It's my prayer place and whenever I get frazzled I go there to regain clarity. peace, Holly G. Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 22:47:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18797 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 22:47:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 18780 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 22:47:01 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 22:47:01 -0000 Received: from yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.29.227]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA28873; Fri, 14 May 1999 15:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990514153742.00a1f294@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: case@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:37:47 -0700 To: Nuku , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: josh sorkin Subject: Re: [NRR] answer me this please. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 01:08 AM 5/14/99 -0500, Nuku wrote: >Ok well, I am doing my paper on legalizing drugs and if you could i would >like your opinion on the subject. This country thrives on expansion. Not merely economic growth, but on increasing cultural diversity. The admission of recreational chemical use into American (and hopefully global) society has the potential to produce a paradigm shift rivalling that of a wave of immigration. Granted, immigration produces negative (from a socioeconomic standpoint) effects as well as positive ones--an adjustment period is inevitably turbulent. Reasonably, the period after extreme legalization will be turbulent as well. But the long-term effects of the introduction of a new cultural element are quite desirable in a society hungry for change. In a country where we use and dispose of ideas at a prodigious rate, few things are more valuable than a fresh source of creative inspiration. There will be troubles as surely as there will be wonders. Many people who hate and fear legalization do so for the same reasion that people hate and fear _any_ alien influence: It creates an unfamiliar and unpredictable environment. For someone who maintains their comfort by living dogmatically and ritualistically, something new and mysterious represents a grave threat indeed. Particularly disconcerting to proponents of the status quo is the unbalancing effect that drugs have on the mind. No user would contest this effect, as the altered state of consciousness is precisely what they seek. Public approval of legalization depends on the proof that this alteration is a beneficial one. Is it? I believe that in a society where we do not stigmatize drug users, they will not experience as much paranoia or depression as a result of their use--be it habitual or recreational. What was once considered monstrous will become natural and well-integrated. Witness, for example, the change in how we view mental illness. At the start of this century, people whose psychology differed significantly from the norm received barbaric treatment--chains, beatings, the usual accoutrements of the "snake pit" insane asylum. Now, however, we have accepted the essential humanity of these so-called "madmen" and have directed our efforts towards helping them achieve the same happiness that "sane" people enjoy. So it shall be with controlled substances. Once we legalize drugs we will research them with greater ease and understand how to live with them harmoniously. If we are willing to accept the initial challenges and chaos that legalization will introduce into society, the rewards to be reaped creatively, economically, and spiritually are immeasurable. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 22:51:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20403 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 22:51:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 20391 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 22:51:20 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 22:51:20 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-h3 (mmf32.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.102]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA18815; Fri, 14 May 1999 15:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905142251.PAA18815@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: SpinDazE@aol.com From: "Rafie" Subject: RE: Hello . . . and Stop! CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:54:49 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think you should, uh, get out more.. Rafie ps What's your thing with goats? Hello, my name is Basmati Kasaar. I am suffering from rare and deadly diseases, poor scores on final exams, extreme virginity, fear of being kidnapped and executed by anal electrocution, and guilt for not forwarding out 50 billion fucking chain letters sent to me by people who actually believe that if you send them on, then that poor From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 22:52:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21634 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 22:52:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 21626 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 22:52:57 -0000 Received: from postman.bayarea.net (205.219.84.13) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 22:52:57 -0000 Received: from baygate (baygate.bayarea.net [204.71.212.2]) by postman.bayarea.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10453 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 15:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:54:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Plastic Nuclear Ferret To: that raver mailing list Subject: book recommendation, was Re: [NRR] answer me this please. In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19990514153742.00a1f294@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk run, don't walk, to your nearest bookstore and pick up a copy of "Gun, with occasional music" by Jonathan Lethem. legalized drugs gone wrong, wrapped in a futuristic detecitve novel. very very very very very good read. 8^) shane (shit, two posts in one day...) On Fri, 14 May 1999, josh sorkin wrote: > > -- ################################################################# # Shane Knapp # donut@bayarea.net # sknapp@excitecorp.com # # http://www.bayarea.net/~donut # # "I'd like to be Superman, but you're standing on my cape...." # ################################################################# From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 23:02:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27404 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 23:02:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 27387 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 23:02:37 -0000 Received: from law2-f191.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.191) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 23:02:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 11966 invoked by uid 0); 14 May 1999 23:02:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990514230209.11965.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.179.158.85 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 14 May 1999 16:02:08 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.179.158.85] From: "didu hearthat" To: digitalmindtraveler@angelfire.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Ambient Brunch? Q&A Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 16:02:08 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HEY BEN- here's what i know about ye old ambient brunch tour. TONIGH (FRI) it's Banco de Gaia live at Great American Music Hall with Perfume Tree and SPool, Then on Sunday it's the DJ part of the tour w/ Cheb I Sabbah and Basa Cuca Nova at Backflip (2pm-midnight). You could possibly find out more info at Nudog.com/brunch. hope this info helps. peace and love, rashida >From: "Electric Joy Boy" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Ambient Brunch? >Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:29:43 -0700 > >Happy friday everyone, > >Has anyone heard of some sort of ambient event going on tonight (friday) in >the city called "Ambient Brunch" or something like that? Someone mentioned >it to me earlier this week and it sounded cool but I don't know too much >about it. Does anyone have any info on this? > >Thanks, >Ben From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 23:04:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28568 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 23:04:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 28560 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 23:04:52 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 23:04:52 -0000 Received: from SpinDazE@aol.com (8032) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rVWTa24272; Fri, 14 May 1999 19:03:19 -0400 (EDT) From: SpinDazE@aol.com Message-ID: <6fbd1915.246e05b9@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 19:03:21 EDT Subject: Re: Hello . . . and Stop! To: ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Um get a clue raphael, I did not send this to sfr! SO HMMPH STop w/ your green eggs and spam!!!! =P -a-n-g-e-l-!! In a message dated 5/14/99 3:51:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu writes: << I think you should, uh, get out more.. Rafie ps What's your thing with goats? Hello, my name is Basmati Kasaar. I am suffering from rare and deadly diseases, poor scores on final exams, extreme virginity, fear of being kidnapped and executed by anal electrocution, and guilt for not forwarding out 50 billion fucking chain letters sent to me by people who actually believe that if you send them on, then that poor >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 23:20:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8757 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 23:20:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 8748 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 23:20:54 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 23:20:54 -0000 Received: from user (access-50-58.ixpres.com [209.75.50.58]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA96374; Fri, 14 May 1999 16:21:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990514140739.0068b648@mail.ixpres.com> X-Sender: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 14:07:39 -0700 To: johnr@hrg.com, Jennifer and Daniel Herron From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: Re: FREEDOM!! Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <373C8E23.FF4C46AF@hrg.com> References: <3.0.3.32.19990513131821.006b9ff0@mail.ixpres.com> <373C0CB1.3AF5@ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk that DUSTBOWL is the racetrack??? No way jose! No way in the planet can it be at that place again...i'm sorry but that place sucked. It was a depressing place that was too out in the open for my taste. Now Angel's Camp....ahhh, once you got past the drive (which TOTALLY sucks ass, i agree people okay?) you got to hang out in this beautiful clearing w/ trees all around you where u could set up your tent under the shade. I hope not that many people are put off by the arduous drive, it is SO worth it, and it's only once in the whole damn year. Besides, tack it on to my already 8 hour drive coming from San Diego i don't think any of you bay arearz have it tougher than me. John, i agree, ADVENTURE is the key word here! C'mon kidz, be creative, take along a travel-sized Connect Four or sumthin. This party isn't just a party, and i for one think it's well worth whatever it takes to get there. party kid to the end madhvi P.S.--To jennifer, i don't understand girlfriend, how could ANYONE be unhappy w/ the situation and feel like they were stuck there? I didn't wanna leave! At 01:57 PM 5/14/99 -0700, John Rodriguez wrote: >Yeah, the race track was easier to get too...but so much dust! and nowhere near >as gorgeous a location as Angels Camp. Personally I like traveling to an outdoor >in the summer, it lends an air of adventure to the whole experience. And that >road in was definitly an adventure. To me that location is well worth the drive. >I cant wait till the 4th! > >john r > >Jennifer and Daniel Herron wrote: > >> Madhvi Dalal wrote: >> >> > i was really really upset when i read this, but then i checked the SFR >> > calendar myself and it doesn't say anything about Freedom being a >> > one-niter...are we perhaps talking about different events here? I'm >> > thinking of freedom as in 4th of July freedom, and from all my sources i've >> > heard it's going to be in the exact same place as last year (near calaveras >> > county so we do the jumping frog :-). I'm making the trek up from San >> > Diego, and i don't know what racetrack is referred to, but it sounds wacked! >> >> Ugh! What was whacked was the drive to that new place. Not only did it >> take forever and a day to get there and forever and a day to get home >> again, in case you were unhappy with the situation you were trapped >> there forever!!! I'd take the racetrack any day. It was close and it had >> that great mountain that I had one of the most spiritual experiences in >> my life on. >> Jennifer aka Chrysallys > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 23:30:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13527 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 23:30:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 13503 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 23:30:43 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 23:30:43 -0000 Received: from user (access-50-58.ixpres.com [209.75.50.58]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA98001 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 16:31:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990514162619.006cf350@mail.ixpres.com> X-Sender: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 16:26:19 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: [NRR] - SUPPORT H.R. 1658 TO REFORM FORFEITURE LAWS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey people, i came across this today on the SO CAL list...please take the time to read it and maybe even call up your congressman/woman or go to the website and fill out the form... This is muy importante kidz---take back your life, don't let the govt run it just because complacency has run amok. hugz & starz, madhvi > >We're writing today to ask you to raise your voice to >Congress on an issue of great and urgent importance. Under >civil asset forfeiture, the government can take and keep the >property of people who have been accused, but not convicted, >of drug crimes, or whose property has been used without >their knowledge to facilitate a drug crime; in 80 percent of >forfeiture cases, charges are never even filed. The law is >unjust and has had a profound corrupting effect on law >enforcement. H.R. 1658, a bill with high-level bipartisan >support -- Reps. Henry Hyde and John Conyers, chairman and >ranking minority on the Judiciary Committee, and committee >members Bob Barr and Barney Frank, will reform civil >forfeiture and restore Constitutional due process of law. >Please take two minutes to fill out our online forfeiture >petition at . > >Though it has strong support in the Judiciary Committee, >H.R. 1658 is sure to meet resistance in the House, and needs >support to get introduced and passed in the Senate. >Nevertheless, it can be passed, this year, so your help is >urgently needed. So please take action now! When you are >done, please consider following up your Congressional e-mail >with a phone call (phone number provided by our lobbying >system), and then fill out our "tell your friends" form to >spread the word about H.R. 1658. (We won't save your >friends' e-mail addresses and won't send them any mail >besides your referral.) Or just forward this alert to any >interested parties and appropriate lists or forums. > >If you're not yet ready to act, maybe reading some asset >forfeiture stories will help you make up your mind: > >* Kip Baker was staying at a friend's home in Anchorage, >Alaska, when federal agents showed up at the door and >informed him that his friend was involved in a marijuana- >growing network and the government was taking the house and >its contents. Baker was never charged with a crime, but >agents seized his ivory collection, the heirloom diamond >ring off his finger, and the gold nugget from around his >neck. After a year and a half of fighting bureaucracies, a >federal prosecutor informed him that the government had sold >his possessions. > >* Juana Lopez was stopped by DEA agents outside a bus depot >in New York City with $4,750 cash in her purse. After >questioning, the officer realized he had previously arrested >her husband for drug charges and told her she was free to >go, but he would keep the money because a drug dog had >reacted to it. Mrs. Lopez has produced receipts showing >that all of her money was legally obtained; a third of the >money was borrowed, another third came from the sale of some >jewelry, and the rest came from her savings as a hair >stylist. The money was earmarked to pay legal fees for her >husband. > >* Ethel Hyton had $39,110 seized during a search by DEA >agents at Hobby Airport in Houston. The agents searched her >bags and ordered a strip search of Miss Hylton, but found no >contraband. Police claimed a drug dog had scratched at her >luggage, although Ms. Hylton never saw a dog. The money >which Ms. Hylton had was a settlement from an insurance >claim, coupled with her life savings, which was being used >to buy a house. > >Please help stop the injustice of the government's legalized >theft! H.R. 1658 will put the burden of proof back on the >government, protect innocent owners, provide counsel to >indigent forfeiture defendants, eliminate the "cost-bond" >requirement for for defendants to put up money to challenge >the forfeiture of their property, allow defendants to keep >their property while a case is in process, and make the >government responsible for damage it causes to property that >gets returned to the owners. > >Please visit http://www.drcnet.org/forfeiture/ to tell your >Representative and Senators to support H.R. 1658 and restore >Constitutional due process of law! > >(The cases cited above came from the ACLU -- visit their >forfeiture section, with links to further information, >online at . The >Drug Policy Foundation has extensive information on H.R. >1658 and the asset forfeiture issue, online at >. And be sure to >check out the nation's leading forfeiture reform >organization, Forfeiture Endangers American Rights (FEAR), >.) > >Latr Daze, >the Dave >--- >Dave Bloom the_dave@relaypoint.net >ICQ# 9661696 http://www.relaypoint.net/~the_dave > >"Without music, life would be a mistake." - Friedrich Nietzche > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 14 23:32:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14386 invoked by uid 6000); 14 May 1999 23:32:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 14378 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 23:32:29 -0000 Received: from law2-f83.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.83) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 23:32:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 6481 invoked by uid 0); 14 May 1999 23:32:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990514233213.6480.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.179.158.85 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 14 May 1999 16:32:12 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.179.158.85] From: "didu hearthat" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: BSP: ethereal & then some Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 16:32:12 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HI gang. rashida here. just wanted to let ya'll know where some fun stuff is happening tonight. #1 ETHEREAL...550 Barneveld in SF... i'm sure you have seen the line-up a couple a times, so i'll spare ya that. but certainly come see me singing with the supa mc duh on the mic as well. where ever the jungle heads you'll find my pink-wigged head too! :D #2 TWICE as NICE... i'll be stopping there first, seems like a cool line-up featuring Jason Greer (cosmic flux) and Swingsett (giant step, nyc& konkrete jungle) and some others (forgive me, i don't have the flyer in front of me) but i know it's at 111 Minna in SF. okay, that's it for now. AND OF COURSE...21+up Junglists gotta represent at DENSITY on MON. 5/17 ... MICKEY FINN also with DJ Swingsett (see above) and resident bad ass J Boogie. It just might be a jumpy night. woohhoooo! peace and love, shida bida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 00:00:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24442 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 00:00:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 24414 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 00:00:14 -0000 Received: from sos87.mry.redshift.com (HELO neptune.log) (209.54.206.87) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 00:00:14 -0000 Received: from pm2-53.mry.redshift.com by neptune.log with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id KXM5XT87; Fri, 14 May 1999 16:59:49 -0700 Message-ID: <002901be9e65$bda2c840$35c7cccf@soscom.com> From: "Susan L. Gwartney" To: "SFRaves" Subject: insecurity sucks. Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 16:59:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0026_01BE9E2B.10ACE060" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01BE9E2B.10ACE060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I hate good looking people, especially the ones that can pimp a = kangol, dress=20 > well, have nice bodies, good postures, break tha beats, UGH!!!! all my life i've always heard that "beauty is only skin deep", that it's = only what's=20 on the inside that counts. when i was in high school i used to think = that those were things ugly people said to console themselves, that it was all a = crock of bullshit and that i was condemned to be terminally and inconsolably ugly = for the rest of my life. society conditions us to believe that you have to be thin and perfect to = make it in this world. when i was in high school i wanted to be a model or = an actress, and well, just look at all the models and actresses out there. thin and = beautiful. i went through phases where i wanted to be a dancer, but i felt so = uncoordinated i was embarrassed even to dance alone. =20 after my painfully lonely teenage years i got married right out of high = school,=20 basically to the first guy who paid any attention to me, and spent seven = years with a verbally abusive individual who insulted me constantly and told = me i was never good enough or pretty enough, that he couldn't understand why he = put up with me (what he really meant was he couldn't understand why i put up = with him). he cheated on me and kept me from having any sort of social life, = basically he was your run-of-the-mill asshole and i just tolerated it because i = thought there was nothing better out there for an ugly girl like me. well, a few years ago i started doing community theater. i made lots of = friends and had a great time doing it, and i started having some self-respect. = i realized finally that i would rather be alone than be insulted over and over = again, so one=20 day he came home and i told him i was leaving him. for good. that was a year ago. i've learned some powerful lessons in the last = year. one of them is that some of the most physically beautiful people can be some = of the biggest assholes. i learned that people would rather hang around = someone=20 who is sweet and kind rather than some raging bitch that looks like a = model. =20 i've also learned that the more you love someone, the more beautiful = they=20 become. all of my friends, my nearest and dearest, are the most = beautiful people i have ever met. not only are they beautiful, they are = intelligent and=20 considerate and not judgmental. i realized that if i couldn't be myself = around someone, or that if they had to criticize me to make themselves feel = better, well they just weren't worth my company any more. people do the strangest things for the most unexpected reasons, like for instance telling you how great they are when they feel like shit inside = because that's what they've been told their entire lives. after a while you = start to buy into it. =20 i've come a long way in one year in terms of insecurity and = self-respect. i met a married a wonderful man (chris) who treats me with love and adoration = and respect. but there are times when i feel myself relapsing.. i'll watch = some=20 movie like 'out of sight' with jennifer lopez and then look down at my = own=20 dumpy body and start feeling like crap again. then i remember that = models and actresses live in a fantasy world devoid of people who have = conversations with them just because they happen to think they're clever or witty. =20 i guess this whole long rant has to do with what drew me into the rave = scene. here you have a massive group of people who are not looking at you like = you are some big freak just because you dance different than the rest of = them, or you look different, or your hips are too wide or your boobs are too = small or some other bullshit. for the most part people are there to be free = of inhibition and to share energy and love without restraint or criticism. "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't = matter and those who matter don't mind." --- Dr. Seuss i love this quote!! i have to thank the gal who posted this,=20 Ms. Brand-New-To-The-Scene, it sums up they way i feel about life in general. =20 *hugs* everyone =3D)sooz aka libertygrl p.s. thank you everyone who actually read this long tirade. =20 in case you are wondering what i look like, check out these pictures from skills last week. http://liberty.ispree.net/skills/ =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01BE9E2B.10ACE060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> I hate good looking people, = especially the=20 ones that can pimp a kangol, dress
> well, have nice bodies, good = postures, break tha beats, UGH!!!!
 
all my life i've always heard that = "beauty is only=20 skin deep", that it's only what's
on the inside that counts.  when i = was in high=20 school i used to think that those
were things ugly people said to console = themselves,=20 that it was all a crock of
bullshit and that i was condemned to be = terminally=20 and inconsolably ugly for the
rest of my life.
 
society conditions us to believe that = you have to=20 be thin and perfect to make
it in this world.  when i was in = high school i=20 wanted to be a model or an actress,
and well, just look at all the models = and actresses=20 out there.  thin and beautiful.
i went through phases where i wanted to = be a=20 dancer, but i felt so uncoordinated
i was embarrassed even to dance = alone. =20
 
after my painfully lonely teenage years = i got=20 married right out of high school,
basically to the first guy who paid any = attention=20 to me, and spent seven years
with a verbally abusive individual who = insulted me=20 constantly and told me i was
never good enough or pretty enough, = that he=20 couldn't understand why he put up
with me (what he really meant was he = couldn't=20 understand why i put up with him).
he cheated on me and kept me from = having any sort=20 of social life, basically he
was your run-of-the-mill asshole and i = just=20 tolerated it because i thought there
was nothing better out there for an = ugly girl like=20 me.
 
well, a few years ago i started doing = community=20 theater.  i made lots of friends
and had a great time doing it, and i = started having=20 some self-respect.  i realized
finally that i would rather be alone = than be=20 insulted over and over again, so one
day he came home and i told him i was = leaving=20 him.  for good.
 
that was a year ago.  i've learned = some=20 powerful lessons in the last year.  one
of them is that some of the most = physically=20 beautiful people can be some of
the biggest assholes.  i learned = that people=20 would rather hang around someone
who is sweet and kind rather than some = raging bitch=20 that looks like a model. 
 
i've also learned that the more you = love someone,=20 the more beautiful they
become.  all of my friends, my = nearest and=20 dearest, are the most beautiful
people i have ever met.  not only = are they=20 beautiful, they are intelligent and
considerate and not judgmental.  i = realized=20 that if i couldn't be myself around
someone, or that if they had to = criticize me to=20 make themselves feel better,
well they just weren't worth my company = any=20 more.
 
people do the strangest things for the = most=20 unexpected reasons, like for
instance telling you how great they are = when they=20 feel like shit inside because
that's what they've been told their = entire=20 lives.  after a while you start to buy
into it. 
 
i've come a long way in one year in = terms of=20 insecurity and self-respect.  i met
a married a wonderful man (chris) who = treats me=20 with love and adoration and
respect.  but there are times when = i feel=20 myself relapsing.. i'll watch some
movie like 'out of sight' with jennifer = lopez and=20 then look down at my own
dumpy body and start feeling like crap = again. =20 then i remember that models
and actresses live in a fantasy world = devoid of=20 people who have conversations
with them just because they happen to = think they're=20 clever or witty. 
 
i guess this whole long rant has to do = with what=20 drew me into the rave scene.
here you have a massive group of people = who are not=20 looking at you like you
are some big freak just because you = dance different=20 than the rest of them,
or you look different, or your hips are = too wide or=20 your boobs are too small
or some other bullshit.   for = the most=20 part people are there to be free of inhibition
and to share energy and love = without restraint=20 or criticism.
 
"Be who you are and say what you feel, = because=20 those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind." --- Dr. = Seuss
 
i love this quote!! i have to thank the = gal who=20 posted this,
Ms. Brand-New-To-The-Scene, it sums up = they way i=20 feel about
life in general. 
 
*hugs* everyone
=3D)sooz
aka libertygrl
 
p.s. thank you everyone who actually = read this long=20 tirade. 
in case you are wondering what i look = like, check=20 out these
pictures from skills last = week.
 
http://liberty.ispree.net/skil= ls/
 
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0026_01BE9E2B.10ACE060-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 00:19:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2542 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 00:19:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 2530 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 00:19:41 -0000 Received: from ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com (HELO mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com) (imail@24.0.0.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 00:19:41 -0000 Received: from C166266A ([24.1.87.7]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990515001939.ERGU14484.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@C166266A>; Fri, 14 May 1999 17:19:39 -0700 Message-ID: <015801be9e2d$171dd2e0$07570118@pinol1.sfba.home.com> From: "Bill Walker" To: "Susan L. Gwartney" , "SFRaves" References: <002901be9e65$bda2c840$35c7cccf@soscom.com> Subject: Re: insecurity sucks. Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 17:13:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0155_01BE9E2D.16EB7840" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0155_01BE9E2D.16EB7840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ya know... it really is all a matter of opinion, and I'm sure most = of us know how much opinions are really worth. So, worthless though it = may be, I think you're pretty. I'm sure a lot of other people do as = well. Looks or anything else physical really don't matter. It matters = that you're happy, and having a good time. :) m0rb p.s. thank you everyone who actually read this long tirade. =20 in case you are wondering what i look like, check out these pictures from skills last week. http://liberty.ispree.net/skills/ ------=_NextPart_000_0155_01BE9E2D.16EB7840 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Ya know... it really = is all a=20 matter of opinion, and I'm sure most of us know how much opinions are = really=20 worth. So, worthless though it may be, I think you're pretty. I'm sure a = lot of=20 other people do as well. Looks or anything else physical really don't = matter. It=20 matters that you're happy, and having a good time. :)
 
    m0rb
p.s. thank you everyone who actually = read this=20 long tirade. 
in case you are wondering what i look = like, check=20 out these
pictures from skills last = week.
 
http://liberty.ispree.net/skil= ls/
------=_NextPart_000_0155_01BE9E2D.16EB7840-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 00:27:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6308 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 00:27:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 6290 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 00:27:54 -0000 Received: from kzsu.stanford.edu (36.118.0.90) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 00:27:54 -0000 Received: from kzsu.Stanford.EDU (KZSU.Stanford.EDU [36.118.0.90]) by kzsu.Stanford.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA01289; Fri, 14 May 1999 17:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 17:27:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "J.C." To: didu hearthat cc: digitalmindtraveler@angelfire.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Ambient Brunch? Q&A In-Reply-To: <19990514230209.11965.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 14 May 1999, didu hearthat wrote: > HEY BEN- > > here's what i know about ye old ambient brunch tour. TONIGH (FRI) it's Banco > de Gaia live at Great American Music Hall with Perfume Tree and SPool, Then > on Sunday it's the DJ part of the tour w/ Cheb I Sabbah and Basa Cuca Nova > at Backflip (2pm-midnight). You could possibly find out more info at > Nudog.com/brunch. Is it worth skipping out on tonight's show and going to a party for friends I haven't seen in 2 or 3 years and then seeing the Sunday event?? I've really been jumping back and forth about this. :o) Not to mention the fact that DJ Swingsett (& Jason Greer) are in town tonight too at the smallish 111 Minna St. gallery. How come we haven't heard anything about this??? What's one to do??? -- "An Epiphany of Sound" - 90.1 FM Tuesdays from 9PM-Mid Pacific. (Also on the web at http://realaudio.stanford.edu/). Playlists and humor list archives at http://www-kzsu.stanford.edu/~dougm "Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of KZSU Radio or Stanford University." (or words to that effect.) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 01:18:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24577 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 01:18:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 24562 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 01:18:01 -0000 Received: from web209.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.109) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 01:18:01 -0000 Message-ID: <19990515012002.15885.rocketmail@web209.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.62.136.22] by web209.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 14 May 1999 18:20:02 PDT Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 18:20:02 -0700 (PDT) From: C H E P S T E R Reply-To: chep_plur@yahoo.com Subject: Rave in Reno "In The Beginning" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You have the right to choose...... I choose to rave in Reno this weekend Hella-tight out there The Unity and Vibe lives...... yes!!! Anybody tired of the scene here, this is an option for ya Email me if you want to hookup while out there. === In case I don't see you...... good afternoon.... good evening.... good night.... chep_plur@yahoo.com Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 01:30:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29359 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 01:30:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 29349 invoked by uid 233); 15 May 1999 01:30:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 25661 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 20:24:54 -0000 Received: from email.sjsu.edu (130.65.3.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 May 1999 20:24:54 -0000 Received: from invitro.lightspeed.net (x130-65-210-22.sjsu.edu [130.65.210.22]) by email.sjsu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA20449 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <003c01be9e47$e19bbfe0$16d24182@invitro.lightspeed.net> From: "n i c o" To: Subject: Re: a few words from an ugly raver Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:25:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >HY AM I SOOOOOO UGLY!!!! > >the insecure poser >bboibreks d00d, I know what you mean. It took me a while to get comfortable because I always felt myself being surrounded by all these incredibly beautiful people. But you know what? I saw how little those kids dance and after about 5 minutes I didn't feel jealous at all. : ) ((( l0ve always ))) Nico > >P.S >I hate good looking people, especially the ones that can pimp a kangol, dress >well, have nice bodies, good postures, break tha beats, UGH!!!! > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 01:39:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3254 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 01:39:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 3246 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 01:39:15 -0000 Received: from mail-gw3.pacbell.net (206.13.28.55) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 01:39:15 -0000 Received: from pacbell.net (ppp-206-170-2-50.sntc01.pacbell.net [206.170.2.50]) by mail-gw3.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with ESMTP id SAA07597 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 18:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <373CD0A6.C9C07227@pacbell.net> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 18:40:55 -0700 From: Jonathan Alexander Cordero X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Subject: NRR John Williams new score, tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk sorry this is so late. For all of you interested in listening to the new John Williams score (for the Phantom Menace) it will be broadcast on KDFC (102.1 FM) tonight at 8:00 P.M. (Friday, May, 14) on Rick Malone's "Fresh Classic" hour. Have a nice weekend. Jonathan C From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 01:54:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9015 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 01:54:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 9006 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 01:54:49 -0000 Received: from corpmail1.jps.net (209.63.224.250) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 01:54:49 -0000 Received: from kickass (209-239-194-67.oak.jps.net [209.239.194.67]) by corpmail1.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA01906; Fri, 14 May 1999 18:53:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001201be9e76$42d97670$77019665@cuhelp.com> From: "Jay" To: "n i c o" , References: <003c01be9e47$e19bbfe0$16d24182@invitro.lightspeed.net> Subject: Re: a few words from an ugly raver Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 18:57:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It's not your looks that matter... and that is the plain and honest truth. Some of the nicest and friendliest party people that I have ever met have been from the superficially beautiful challenged group, and that means more to me than a sexy body and pretty face could ever mean. One of the things that I have always loved about being online, is that we exist here without race, color, religion or sexual preference. We judge people on what they think and say, rather than the superficial qualities that society deems so important. Why does our music have to discriminate that way either? We set ourselves apart from the rest of the world in many other things, why not this ? If you have low self-esteem about your looks, just remember: The music is blind, it cannot judge you. That's what we are here for right? The music that reaches our soul of souls... one of the driving forces of this universe. Music is love, and love is unconditional! If you love the music... if you truly care about the music... then you are not alone! Love & Music, -Jay "Imaging the music that was created as this universe was formed... EPIC in its fullest meaning." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 02:01:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11789 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 02:00:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 11765 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 02:00:55 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 02:00:55 -0000 Received: from HppyXTC@aol.com (400) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vFGEa05051 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 22:00:09 -0400 (EDT) From: HppyXTC@aol.com Message-ID: <76528f31.246e2f28@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:00:08 EDT Subject: Re: BIRTHDAYS: Hppyxtc & binaryfineboy To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Aww...brian..you flatter me! Thank you!! Love, Heather In a message dated 5/14/99 1:57:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Brikne@aol.com writes: > HEy all you groovey sf ravers... for all of you going to first light on saturday, make sure to seek out and hug heather and ryan, both of whom are celebrating birthdays this weekend. heather we all know as the plur giving, hug loving, pot protesting badass thats makes me wanna go straight... and ryan is the sharp tongued, bleached blonde beauty we all want to bring home to meet our parents. So take a minute on saturday when your resting from dancing and give them a hug (or a kiss? or a phone number? j/k) and hell, while your at it, give me a hug too... the earth will move hehe. hugs and cheers, Brian =) XOXOX > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 02:25:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18603 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 02:25:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 18577 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 02:25:42 -0000 Received: from f105.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.224) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 02:25:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 38341 invoked by uid 0); 15 May 1999 02:25:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19990515022514.38340.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 24.48.24.175 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 14 May 1999 19:25:13 PDT X-Originating-IP: [24.48.24.175] From: "Greg *Stryke* Chin" To: cordero@pacbell.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR John Williams new score, tonight Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:25:13 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thank you for posting the John Williams info. I have the score already for the film. Great stuff. Williams is one of my big influences. Be well all, Greg "Stryke" Chin >From: Jonathan Alexander Cordero >To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" >Subject: NRR John Williams new score, tonight >Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 18:40:55 -0700 > >sorry this is so late. > >For all of you interested in listening to the new John Williams score (for >the Phantom Menace) it >will be broadcast on KDFC (102.1 FM) tonight at 8:00 P.M. (Friday, May, >14) on Rick Malone's "Fresh >Classic" hour. > >Have a nice weekend. > >Jonathan C > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 02:25:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18788 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 02:25:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 18677 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 02:25:47 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 02:25:47 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (4420) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3FICa05661 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 22:25:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <48834ebd.246e34f7@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:24:55 EDT Subject: Mitzubishis in high times. . . To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Weird. . . there was this articler in HT of this dude that loves mitzubishis. . . they've been going around for a little while and this guy says they're the best stuff in europe. . . Just interested in how broad the world iz. . . If you'll excuse me, I have a fat hairy green nug with my name on it. . . Love yall Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 02:27:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20509 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 02:27:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 20467 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 02:27:23 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 02:27:23 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (4420) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3OIGa02835 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 22:26:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <807e30b1.246e3551@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:26:25 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: RYAN'S birthday!!!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HAPPY BIRTHDAY SWEET CHEEKS !!!! Love Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 02:30:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23236 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 02:30:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 23228 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 02:30:46 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 02:30:46 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (4420) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3DNSa09694; Fri, 14 May 1999 22:30:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <360c05d7.246e3637@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:30:15 EDT Subject: Re: FREEDOM To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ```````````Thats a trip. . . The time I went to freedom and it was at sand hill in livermore. . . It was weird dancing around on dirt I learned to race on. . . If you know the guy who owns the place. . . he's not too friendly.. . . Never in a million years would I have guessed that I'd be partying at one of my local racetracks. . . just can't get over it. . . weird. . . HUGZzzzz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 02:39:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25570 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 02:39:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 25561 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 02:39:49 -0000 Received: from mail-gw3.pacbell.net (206.13.28.55) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 02:39:49 -0000 Received: from adsl-209-233-16-174.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (adsl-209-233-16-174.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [209.233.16.174]) by mail-gw3.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with SMTP id TAA24665; Fri, 14 May 1999 19:39:45 -0700 (PDT) From: davidmin@pacbell.net (David Minuk) To: Madhvi Dalal , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: FREEDOM!! Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 02:15:29 GMT Message-ID: <373dd81e.168224466@mail.pacbell.net> References: <3.0.3.32.19990513131821.006b9ff0@mail.ixpres.com> <373C0CB1.3AF5@ix.netcom.com> <3.0.3.32.19990514140739.0068b648@mail.ixpres.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990514140739.0068b648@mail.ixpres.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk There's another reason. The racetrack is now under water.... At least dust wouldn't be a problem. David On Fri, 14 May 1999 14:07:39 -0700, you wrote: >that DUSTBOWL is the racetrack??? No way jose! No way in the planet = can >it be at that place again...i'm sorry but that place sucked. It was a ------------------------------------------------------------ David Minuk davidmin@pacbell.net WWW: My URL is http://home.pacbell.net/davidmin Please note my new e-mail address. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 02:40:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26234 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 02:40:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 26226 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 02:40:05 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 02:40:05 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (4420) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3FGQa04194 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 22:39:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <10c386a6.246e3866@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:39:34 EDT Subject: Re: Trance and Jungle Factory is a crock of shit To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/12/99 10:52:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mjohan@uclink4.berkeley.edu writes: << At 11:56 PM 5/12/99 -0400, Laalkuchaa@aol.com wrote: >Warning to everyone. The Trance and Jungle Factory SUCKS! ! ! ! ! Save your >money DON'T FUCKING GO THERE! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! >> I agree totally. . . for all my trance and/or jungle needs, I like to drag my weary selves to HARMONICS in santa rosa. . . I gotta tell ya. . . the first rate service and excellent customer satisfaction make this venue worth the hour n twenny minute drive. . . And every time everyone else was sold out of those tix you wanted so badly. . . HARMONICS had them. . . It's always a nice drive, little chp, nice drivers on the freeway. . . I give it J J J J J J J J J J J four big ol happy faces. . . . up. . . give or take a couple LuvYall Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 02:43:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28201 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 02:43:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 28192 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 02:43:39 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 02:43:39 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (4420) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3WGLa05091 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 22:42:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:42:44 EDT Subject: Re: FREEDOM!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk There's another reason. The racetrack is now under water.... At least dust wouldn't be a problem. David Oh yeah. . . I remember years ago that they had these water level marks up on the hill, like high on the hill. . . they were supposed to flood the whole section of the valley right. . . FREE WAter bad ass ARyck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 02:53:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3665 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 02:53:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 3472 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 02:53:14 -0000 Received: from law-f89.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.152) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 02:53:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 2983 invoked by uid 0); 15 May 1999 02:52:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19990515025246.2982.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.215.192 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 14 May 1999 19:52:43 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.215.192] From: "Amber Leahey" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: FREEDOM!! Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 19:52:43 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk All, I have to say is that the last place Freedom was held WAS beautiful until thousands of people trashed it. I was actually really sad about being there after a while...I felt like I had helped destroy it...and if you saw the place the next morning...it was wrecked. I had a horrible time at that freedom. If anyone remebers my post...people were waaay too high and I saw many people in the med tent. I wasn't allowed to dance for three minutes without some freak with his eyes rolling in the back of his head trying to feel me up. To top the night off I saw some guy get the living crap beat out of him while everyone just walked by and acted like it didn't happen. So, when you ask why anyone would have wanted to leave...there's some good answers for you. Amber (A.K.A. st*rgrrl) > >that DUSTBOWL is the racetrack??? No way jose! No way in the planet can >it be at that place again...i'm sorry but that place sucked. It was a >depressing place that was too out in the open for my taste. Now Angel's >Camp....ahhh, once you got past the drive (which TOTALLY sucks ass, i agree >people okay?) you got to hang out in this beautiful clearing w/ trees all >around you where u could set up your tent under the shade. I hope not that >many people are put off by the arduous drive, it is SO worth it, and it's >only once in the whole damn year. Besides, tack it on to my already 8 hour >drive coming from San Diego i don't think any of you bay arearz have it >tougher than me. >John, i agree, ADVENTURE is the key word here! > >C'mon kidz, be creative, take along a travel-sized Connect Four or sumthin. > This party isn't just a party, and i for one think it's well worth >whatever it takes to get there. > >party kid to the end > >madhvi > >P.S.--To jennifer, i don't understand girlfriend, how could ANYONE be >unhappy w/ the situation and feel like they were stuck there? I didn't >wanna leave! > > > > >At 01:57 PM 5/14/99 -0700, John Rodriguez wrote: > >Yeah, the race track was easier to get too...but so much dust! and >nowhere near > >as gorgeous a location as Angels Camp. Personally I like traveling to an >outdoor > >in the summer, it lends an air of adventure to the whole experience. And >that > >road in was definitly an adventure. To me that location is well worth >the >drive. > >I cant wait till the 4th! > > > >john r > > > >Jennifer and Daniel Herron wrote: > > > >> Madhvi Dalal wrote: > >> > >> > i was really really upset when i read this, but then i checked the >SFR > >> > calendar myself and it doesn't say anything about Freedom being a > >> > one-niter...are we perhaps talking about different events here? I'm > >> > thinking of freedom as in 4th of July freedom, and from all my >sources >i've > >> > heard it's going to be in the exact same place as last year (near >calaveras > >> > county so we do the jumping frog :-). I'm making the trek up from >San > >> > Diego, and i don't know what racetrack is referred to, but it sounds >wacked! > >> > >> Ugh! What was whacked was the drive to that new place. Not only did it > >> take forever and a day to get there and forever and a day to get home > >> again, in case you were unhappy with the situation you were trapped > >> there forever!!! I'd take the racetrack any day. It was close and it >had > >> that great mountain that I had one of the most spiritual experiences in > >> my life on. > >> Jennifer aka Chrysallys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 03:17:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13511 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 03:17:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 13503 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 03:17:06 -0000 Received: from law-f227.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.165) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 03:17:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 64153 invoked by uid 0); 15 May 1999 03:16:38 -0000 Message-ID: <19990515031638.64152.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.215.192 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 14 May 1999 20:16:37 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.215.192] From: "Amber Leahey" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: insecurity sucks. Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 20:16:37 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I've known Sooz for a little while now and I have always thought of her as being quite beautiful. The thing that makes you so beautiful Susan is your heart. You are one of the most gentle people I have ever met. You come across as very intelligent as well. I think I fell in love with the rave scene for a lot of the same reasons as you. I have always been considered a weirdo....hell my own parents told me I was weird and different. I found out that I could be weird in this scene which in truth I guess is being myself. In fact, through the rave scene I have found other weirdos even stranger than myself. What I've learned in all is that it just doesn't fucking matter who's better looking, more intelligent, a better dancer....as long as I'm enjoying my life and having fun, others will be attracted to me and that makes me feel not so weird. I just wanted to share. Amber (A.K.A. st*rgrrl) > Ya know... it really is all a matter of opinion, and I'm sure most of >us know how much opinions are really worth. So, worthless though it may be, >I think you're pretty. I'm sure a lot of other people do as well. Looks or >anything else physical really don't matter. It matters that you're happy, >and having a good time. :) > > m0rb > p.s. thank you everyone who actually read this long tirade. > in case you are wondering what i look like, check out these > pictures from skills last week. > > http://liberty.ispree.net/skills/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 05:18:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18935 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 05:18:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 18840 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 05:18:10 -0000 Received: from smtp1.mindspring.com (207.69.200.31) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 05:18:10 -0000 Received: from freakstation (user-33qspds.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.101.188]) by smtp1.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA25297; Sat, 15 May 1999 01:18:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <004201be9e92$5051bb20$bc65aec7@freakstation> Reply-To: "FREAK ZONE!" From: "FREAK ZONE!" To: "Jess ica" , References: <19990513225018.25715.rocketmail@web806.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Tattoo places in SF!! Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:17:04 -0700 Organization: FREAK ZONE! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > I think this has been brought up before on the list, but im feenin for > a bleedin does anyone know any good, safe tatoo parlors/artists in the > city, Tattoo City at Lombard & Mason is THE BEST tattoo shop in SF. All the artists there are really good! Pretty expensive and better make an appointment. 345-9437 -Sean -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- F R E A K Z O N E 4 2 0 ! seanc420@mindspring.com seanc420@yahoo.com freakzone@mindspring.com http://freakzone.home.mindspring.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 05:25:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21886 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 05:25:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 21878 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 05:25:20 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 05:25:20 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com (3879) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vCXFa02834 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 01:24:43 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <1e2e94f1.246e5f1b@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 01:24:43 EDT Subject: Re: Asians in the RAVE scene To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok, so some of you have been talking about how lots f the asian kids at parties are almost always e*tarded!! i can say that lately i have noticed a lot of this too.... but i think it is important to realize that there is a lot more e*tarded kids walking around in general than usuall, and that is scarry, because i question how many of these drug-out kids are actually there for the music, or the vibe and the people..... anyways... i thought this way interesting too, so although it's not an explanation for why some many of these asian people seem to be compleately fuct up, it is somewhat related, and maybe there is an similar explanation for e and other stuff, *but* i can only speak for what i learned, so i'm not going to try and guess the correlation if any.... in my psych class we were learning about addiction, and one day our teacher was giving a very simplified explanation of the metabolism alcohol in your body once you ingest it. there are different chemicals in your body that react to alcohol...the first is ADH which removes a hydrogen molecule changing alcohol into acetaldahyde, which is then affected by ALDH which removes another hydrogen... so the way my teacher explained it, the level of ADH is higher in asian or native american people and the level of ALDH is lower which is theorized as a reason why they get intoxicated more easily, and stay intoxicated longer..... now i'm don't know much at all about biology and chemistry, but i found this to be really interesting... ok, well that said i hope to see a bunch of you at macadio's party (first light) tomorrow night!! if you see a girlie with a lil video camera, it's probably either me or my bestfriend liz making yet another video..... so say hi!! love and hugs and kisses, tina From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 05:45:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26413 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 05:45:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 26381 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 05:45:01 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 05:45:01 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (3879) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3BSHa02624 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 01:44:21 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <20d175eb.246e63b4@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 01:44:20 EDT Subject: NRR: the question of the night.... To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The question of the night is : WHo are all these people at my work and why are they drunk?? The answer is: Patrice, you werk in a bar... now lock the door to the bathroom and maybe this time they won't break it down!!! I NEED SLEEP!! hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 05:56:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28467 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 05:56:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 28455 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 05:56:20 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 05:56:20 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id AAA17851 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 00:55:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mon-ca8-59.ix.netcom.com(206.216.188.123) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma017841; Sat May 15 00:55:26 1999 Message-ID: <373CA1E7.76A5@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:21:27 +0000 From: Jennifer and Daniel Herron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: insecurity sucks. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Susan you are a beautiful girl but that's partialy 'cause you are so beautiful on the inside. I think you looked the most beautiful dancing on stage at Freedom for hours upon hours...dirt and all. You were so free and happy and you didn't care that you were up there for everyone to see. You know how many of us look like models anyway? But I understand so well. I was a really cute child who was delt a horrible blow when I was eight that forever changed my life. Vitiligo sadly enough has shaped who I am today. I went then through the rest of my childhood thinking I was ugly and worthless (not having many friends didn't help). It took me going to college to realize that I'm attractive. I finally gained confidence. You know I don't want to sound stuck up but I think I still am coming into my own and getting more attractive as I get older. Guess that'll be useful when I am 40 Hehe...One sweet thing Dan (my hubby) said to me is that he was glad I got Vitiligo 'cause without it I wouldn't have met him....I would be so different a person..probably vain and well like so many of those hateful girls I went to school with. What doesn't kill us makes us stronger. Love ya Susan Jennifer aka Chrysallys From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 06:11:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1033 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 06:11:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 1025 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 06:11:19 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 06:11:19 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com (584) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vDPJa02624; Sat, 15 May 1999 02:10:31 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 02:10:31 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: the question of the night.... To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i thought u worked at a pizza place... hmmm the plot thickens Dominos opens a bar matt is very confused From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 06:48:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10029 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 06:48:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 10019 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 06:48:45 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 06:48:45 -0000 Received: from Kalika1196@aol.com (3703) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vAYKa19518 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 02:48:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Kalika1196@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 02:48:08 EDT Subject: nrr: a great story worth reading... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Happiness A True Story Two men, both seriously ill, occupied the same hospital room. One man was allowed to sit up in his bed for an hour each afternoon to help drain the fluid from his lungs. His bed was next to the room's only window. The other man had to spend all his time flat on his back. The men talked for hours on end. They spoke of their wives and families, their homes, their jobs, their involvement in the military service, where they had been on vacation. And every afternoon when the man in the bed by the window could sit up, he would pass the time by describing to his roommate all the things he could see outside the window. The man in the other bed began to live for those one-hour periods where his world would be broadened and enlivened by all the activity and color of the world outside. The window overlooked a park with a lovely lake. Ducks and swans played on the water while children sailed their model boats. Young lovers walked arm in arm amidst flowers of every color of the rainbow. Grand old trees graced the landscape, and a fine view of the city skyline could be seen in the distance. As the man by the window described all this exquisite detail, the man on the other side of the room would close his eyes and imagine the picturesque scene. One warm afternoon the man by the window described a parade passing by. Although the other man couldn't hear the band-he could see it in his mind's eye as the gentleman by the window portrayed it with descriptive words. Days and weeks passed. One morning, the day nurse arrived to bring water for their baths only to find the lifeless body of the man by the window, who had died peacefully in his sleep. She was saddened and called the hospital attendants to take the body away. As soon as it seemed appropriate, the other man asked if he could be moved next to the window. The nurse was happy to make the switch, and after making sure he was comfortable, she left him alone. Slowly, painfully, he propped himself up on one elbow to take his first look at the world outside. Finally, he would have the joy of seeing it for himself. He strained to slowly turn to look out the window beside the bed. It faced a blank wall. The man asked the nurse what could have compelled his deceased roommate who had described such wonderful things outside this window. The nurse responded that the man was blind and could not even see the wall. She said, "Perhaps he just wanted to encourage you." Epilogue...There is tremendous happiness in making others happy, despite our own situations. Shared grief is half the sorrow, but happiness when shared, is doubled. If you want to feel rich, just count all of the things you have that money can't buy. "Today is a gift, that's why it is called the present." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 07:05:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18037 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 07:05:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 17827 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 07:05:14 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 07:05:14 -0000 Received: from Laalkuchaa@aol.com (535) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPMNa03058 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 03:04:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Laalkuchaa@aol.com Message-ID: <29fdcbda.246e7674@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 03:04:20 EDT Subject: Re: The death of plur To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk For all the raves I've been to out here plur is pretty much dormant. When we're asked to explain what our scene is then we regurgitate the peace love unity and respect manifesto but there are very few who actually practice what they preach. What are your thoughts on the subject From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 07:32:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24258 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 07:32:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 24250 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 07:32:05 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 07:32:05 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-c4 (mmf13.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.83]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA28136; Sat, 15 May 1999 00:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905150731.AAA28136@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: case@uclink4.berkeley.edu From: "Rafie" Subject: Re: [NRR] answer me this please. CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 00:32:05 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Are you talking about total legalization? To what extent would drugs be available to people? Would there be an age-limit, as with alcohol? Not that many people abusing alcohol are actually 21... Or would you need a permit or something? And the drugs being legalized would be hallucinogenic, mainly? As well as ecstacy...I just can't really visualize a nation being liberated by cocaine and methamphetamine. I do believe legalization is a positive thing, but I think the impact of the "paradigm shift" would, to a large extent, rely on the amount of people that will come into new contact with drugs who would not normally have been compelled to seek them out. Rafie On Fri, 14 May 1999 15:37:47 -0700, case@uclink4.berkeley.edu wrote... >At 01:08 AM 5/14/99 -0500, Nuku wrote: >>Ok well, I am doing my paper on legalizing drugs and if you could i would >>like your opinion on the subject. > >This country thrives on expansion. Not merely economic growth, but on >increasing cultural diversity. The admission of recreational chemical use >into American (and hopefully global) society has the potential to produce a >paradigm shift rivalling that of a wave of immigration. > >Granted, immigration produces negative (from a socioeconomic standpoint) >effects as well as positive ones--an adjustment period is inevitably >turbulent. Reasonably, the period after extreme legalization will be >turbulent as well. > >But the long-term effects of the introduction of a new cultural element are >quite desirable in a society hungry for change. In a country where we use >and dispose of ideas at a prodigious rate, few things are more valuable >than a fresh source of creative inspiration. > >There will be troubles as surely as there will be wonders. Many people who >hate and fear legalization do so for the same reasion that people hate and >fear _any_ alien influence: It creates an unfamiliar and unpredictable >environment. For someone who maintains their comfort by living >dogmatically and ritualistically, something new and mysterious represents a >grave threat indeed. > >Particularly disconcerting to proponents of the status quo is the >unbalancing effect that drugs have on the mind. No user would contest this >effect, as the altered state of consciousness is precisely what they seek. >Public approval of legalization depends on the proof that this alteration >is a beneficial one. > >Is it? I believe that in a society where we do not stigmatize drug users, >they will not experience as much paranoia or depression as a result of >their use--be it habitual or recreational. What was once considered >monstrous will become natural and well-integrated. > >Witness, for example, the change in how we view mental illness. At the >start of this century, people whose psychology differed significantly from >the norm received barbaric treatment--chains, beatings, the usual >accoutrements of the "snake pit" insane asylum. Now, however, we have >accepted the essential humanity of these so-called "madmen" and have >directed our efforts towards helping them achieve the same happiness that >"sane" people enjoy. > >So it shall be with controlled substances. Once we legalize drugs we will >research them with greater ease and understand how to live with them >harmoniously. If we are willing to accept the initial challenges and chaos >that legalization will introduce into society, the rewards to be reaped >creatively, economically, and spiritually are immeasurable. > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 07:44:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28032 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 07:44:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 28024 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 07:44:52 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 07:44:52 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-c4 (mmf13.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.83]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA08301; Sat, 15 May 1999 00:44:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905150744.AAA08301@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: nlopez@email.sjsu.edu From: "Rafie" Subject: Re: a few words from an ugly raver CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 00:45:08 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah, Son. Grow up. Why are you insecure, pray tell? You know you can dance WAAAY better than 97.5% of people at parties. Sooo...shaddup! And you have very good fashion sense, and an interesting sense of humor, and good shoes, and a winning personality, and top notch friends, yadda yadda Love Rafie On Fri, 14 May 1999 13:25:16 -0700, nlopez@email.sjsu.edu wrote... >>HY AM I SOOOOOO UGLY!!!! >> >>the insecure poser >>bboibreks > >d00d, I know what you mean. It took me a while to get comfortable because >I >always felt myself being surrounded by all these incredibly beautiful >people. But you know what? I saw how little those kids dance and after >about 5 minutes I didn't feel jealous at all. : ) > >((( l0ve always ))) > >Nico > > >> >>P.S >>I hate good looking people, especially the ones that can pimp a kangol, >dress >>well, have nice bodies, good postures, break tha beats, UGH!!!! >> > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 08:26:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7449 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 08:26:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 7441 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 08:26:13 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 08:26:13 -0000 Received: from Pogobee@aol.com (8043) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vRYYa16142 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 04:25:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Pogobee@aol.com Message-ID: <9d79393f.246e8982@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 04:25:38 EDT Subject: nrr: altar knowledge and question To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey party peeps! i'm happy so many of you responded to my post about altars. As Uncle Noah pointed out before, i misspelled the item my whole post was about. ALTAR with an *ar* at the end..... not alter which means to change. i caused a lot of posts with typos. sorry folks! i wish someone had corrected my subject's typo. which leads me to this question: i'd like to know if proper nettiquette allows people to correct grammatical errors in a subject line? -- pogo - the everlearning From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 08:26:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7898 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 08:26:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 7836 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 08:26:23 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 08:26:23 -0000 Received: from Taiida@aol.com (8029) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPFPa02608; Sat, 15 May 1999 04:25:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Taiida@aol.com Message-ID: <4b02f012.246e8975@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 04:25:25 EDT Subject: Re: Asians in the RAVE scene To: MoonChyld1@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm the Japanese Cowgirl Raver that is in the rave scene for the vibe and the music. NOT for the drugs anymore. I tried E again and I remember why I haven't done it in a while. Whenever I E or something, I always get so fucked up that I just get floored. And since I've been in the scene, I have gotten to the point where I just always dance, dance, and dance and meet people. WHen I'm floored I can't move around. The drugs just hit me so hard everytime. Oh! they also make me more emotional and depressed. Luv ya'll Just the way you guys are!!! Tami *hugz n stuff* **muuuuaahhhh!** << ok, so some of you have been talking about how lots f the asian kids at parties are almost always e*tarded!! i can say that lately i have noticed a lot of this too.... but i think it is important to realize that there is a lot more e*tarded kids walking around in general than usuall, and that is scarry, because i question how many of these drug-out kids are actually there for the music, or the vibe and the people..... anyways... i thought this way interesting too, so although it's not an explanation for why some many of these asian people seem to be compleately fuct up, it is somewhat related, and maybe there is an similar explanation for e and other stuff, *but* i can only speak for what i learned, so i'm not going to try and guess the correlation if any.... in my psych class we were learning about addiction, and one day our teacher was giving a very simplified explanation of the metabolism alcohol in your body once you ingest it. there are different chemicals in your body that react to alcohol...the first is ADH which removes a hydrogen molecule changing alcohol into acetaldahyde, which is then affected by ALDH which removes another hydrogen... so the way my teacher explained it, the level of ADH is higher in asian or native american people and the level of ALDH is lower which is theorized as a reason why they get intoxicated more easily, and stay intoxicated longer..... now i'm don't know much at all about biology and chemistry, but i found this to be really interesting... ok, well that said i hope to see a bunch of you at macadio's party (first light) tomorrow night!! if you see a girlie with a lil video camera, it's probably either me or my bestfriend liz making yet another video..... so say hi!! >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 08:39:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11283 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 08:39:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 11275 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 08:39:47 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 08:39:47 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-c4 (mmf13.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.83]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA21745; Sat, 15 May 1999 01:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905150839.BAA21745@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: Laalkuchaa@aol.com From: "Rafie" Subject: Re: The death of plur CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 01:40:04 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk We were just talking about this last week. You should check the archives, there were some good posts on the subject. Peace, Love, Unity, and Respect aren't really "dormant" right now. Different people attach different values to the four concepts, and for some people one of them is more important than the others, or whatnot; PLUR doesn't exist at every rave as some ruling force. It's unfortunate that many people only believe in "PLUR" and "vibe" when they are on ecstacy, or when they think they have to prove that they're a real raver to others. Parties should be Peaceful in that there is no animosity between anyone -- no fights, no discrimination, no discomfort. I Love my friends. I Love it when I see people having a lot of fun... regardless of their sobriety. I don't Love it when people come up and shove Vicks into my eyes because they are fucked up and assume I am too. I don't Love seeing massive amounts of 14 year olds rolling on the filthy floors. Unity? Well...people are different, at parties and everywhere else. But, at the perfect party, they are all United within the same space, ideally all gettin down to the same music. I'm sure everyone has experienced the electric connection between oneself and others that can be felt when you are dancing in a crowd to kick ass music, and everyone is freaking out and moving as one. Respect needs to happen before any of the other three...Respecting everyone at the party makes the atmosphere comfortable. It is nice to feel safe that you won't get taunted, laughed at, or shoved around. The allure of a rave should be the fact that it is a zone that is separate from bullshit in day-to-day life, and you can look and dance however you want and be accepted. Unfortunately I haven't seen any respect at a party for a looong time. So: figure out what these mean to you! PLUR is "dead" at parties because it never existed! It doesn't pop up every saturday night, only to hide underground for the following week. The success of a party, beside relying on its organization (space, effort) and music, relies on the attitudes that everyone brings to it!! Rafie P.S. ./~ laaaa la lalal laa la laaa.. ./~ On Sat, 15 May 1999 03:04:20 EDT, Laalkuchaa@aol.com wrote... >For all the raves I've been to out here plur is pretty much dormant. When >we're asked to explain what our scene is then we regurgitate the peace love >unity and respect manifesto but there are very few who actually practice >what >they preach. What are your thoughts on the subject > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 08:47:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14228 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 08:47:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 14209 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 08:47:10 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 08:47:10 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-c4 (mmf13.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.83]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA05211; Sat, 15 May 1999 01:47:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905150847.BAA05211@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: Pogobee@aol.com From: "Rafie" Subject: RE: nrr: altar knowledge and question CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 01:47:23 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > i'd like to know if proper nettiquette allows people to correct >grammatical errors in a ^^^^^^^^^^^ >subject line? No! You most certainly are not allowed to twist _NETIQUETTE_ to evil ends such as correcting people's grammar/spelling. I hate it when people do that. It is rude and obnoxious. It makes me want to slap them and kick them and spit on them. Rafie PS. I don't think it matters how you spell that word, cause it's one of those new made-up words caused by all this internet new technology bullshite From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 09:29:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24854 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 09:29:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 24846 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 09:29:18 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 09:29:18 -0000 Received: from Anachra@aol.com (401) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vXNPa10990 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 05:28:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Anachra@aol.com Message-ID: <7a62c083.246e984c@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 05:28:44 EDT Subject: Thank You, was Insecurity Sucks To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk you know...thank you people...while I didn't post that, I feel it if not every day than at every party, for some part of my evening, so thank you to you truly beautious people who took time out of your day to respond. beauty is an odd thing, and much like Sooz, i've spent years chalking up its "skin deep" qualities as only applicable to the "ugly" people like myself. I read/hear/encounter so much about how "ravers" are so beautiful because we accept everyone and we dont judge them and we have plur comin out of every orifice (ew), and spend an equal amount of time nodding, smiling, and discarding such comments. Obviously not everyone within ANY scene is that way, but just now, I begin to realize that enough of us are to make a difference. it's not drugs, it's not necessarily the music or the need to dance, its not necessarily even something tangible, it's a love of life i suppose. when you learn how to be in love with being alive, the only ugly people are the ones that take life for granted i suppose. i'm still working towards enjoying life, i still have days where i would rather not be, but hell...life is a process. hmm, thinking perhaps this rant really doesn't have a purpose other than, Like the insecurity thread did myself, maybe this will touch someone. bah...i have disclosed enough humanity for one evening... spacey From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 11:20:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8671 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 11:20:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 8649 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 11:20:00 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 11:20:00 -0000 Received: from yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.29.227]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA09766; Sat, 15 May 1999 04:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990515041042.00a20a2c@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: case@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 04:10:44 -0700 To: "Rafie" From: josh sorkin Subject: Re: [NRR] answer me this please. Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 12:32 AM 5/15/99, Rafie wrote: >Are you talking about total legalization? > >To what extent would drugs be available to people? Would there be an >age-limit, as with alcohol? Not that many people abusing alcohol are >actually 21... Or would you need a permit or something? i think the alcohol thing works pretty well--heavy enforcement on the young kids with less attention paid as they get closer to the legal age. this allows kids to acquire experience so that by the time they have the complete legal authority to purchase, they've already (hopefully) learned their limits, etiquette, etc. > >And the drugs being legalized would be hallucinogenic, mainly? As well as >ecstacy...I just can't really visualize a nation being liberated by cocaine >and methamphetamine. I do believe legalization is a positive thing, but I >think the impact of the "paradigm shift" would, to a large extent, rely on >the amount of people that will come into new contact with drugs who would >not normally have been compelled to seek them out. > but it will liberate the nation! imagine, you have every substance available to you for the equivalent price of a bottle of beer or a pack of smokes...yes there will be abuses, glorious abuses...binges the likes of which you've never seen...for probably about six months or so. then people will get bored, burn out, overdose, whatever. the people who are able to handle habitual use will survive this period in a darwinian fashion. i think a lot of these people who will start using drugs simply because they're available will be the same people who buy things at the supermarket because they're "new and improved." patrons of the great pop culture whore, if you will. but the shift will occur--you'll think about things a whole new way... ...when you walk down the street and see everybody doing drugs and exhibiting drug behavior in public. this may be the end of the automobile in metropolitan areas because too many people will be wandering around in the streets. praise the lord and pass the public transportation. ...when you see ads for drugs on TV. media will alter drastically when shows are explicitly intended to be watched under the influence of certain substances, with cues to enhance the specific mental state you're in. ...when you walk through the supermarket to your pharmaceutical section and see the "New and Improved Ecstasy--now with lower hangover!" decriminalizing these chemicals will enable enormous amounts of research to be done to make these substances safer, standardized, and more fun. A whole industry dedicated to improving the quality of hallucinations? it could happen. o.k. so i am making sweeping generalizations and pronouncing my pipe dreams. but you have to think big if you want to think ahead because the future is going to be fucking RAD. --------------------- "Look at your little finger, the emptiness of it is no different than the emptiness of infinity." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 11:35:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13020 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 11:35:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 13012 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 11:35:51 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 11:35:51 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-152.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.152]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id EAA23958 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 04:35:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990515101031.006b0f6c@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 05:10:31 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: Quick review of Etheral. Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok, my feet hur,t my calves ache, and my eyes look as if have been in a day long smoke out. But dammit, going to etheral was worth it. Unfortuantely i didn't find 550 fast enuff to see the beggining. That would be my only complaint.. better directions. But i got there with my friend (who I coerced into coming with me even though she has work at 8am) and I brought my co-worker who I will have to work an afternoon till closing shift with today (gawd thats gonna be fun) Anyhow, the party was great mainly because the ppl and the music. I really only heard Science's and Mike "I blew up the fucking floor" Megatron's set but that was enough cuz me and ma friends were shakin our arses likes it was the go-go segment of laugh-in. O speaking of go-go that club was a awesome place to throw a party it was nice and big. Though it could've have used more ppl. Shame on y'all for not going. You missed a damn good party with a mixture of differnt kinds of dj's who are actually good. I think thought one of the best parts was being with my sfr family again. All ma stress suddenly kinda dropped away and I was hanging with shane, randy, max, steph, mook, jeremy, o wait on a side note..even Mr Nico was shaking his arse to the jungle set and I could've sworn that boy to be a trance devotee for life. but much love goes out to the old family even those I missed..er micheal the stickman. And ma love goes out to the new ppl I have meet this nite. AndyW (run alcholic run, so freaking priceless), leslie, jessica, Bigm00 and may I say again you did a lovely job and ooh he gave me a kiss on the cheek *swoon* j/k Oh one of the best things I heard was from my co-worker. I asked her while we were in the jungle room listening to Sciences set, "Do you like this?" and she replied "I never heard this stuff before but I love it!" Thats just gotta make you smile. Your Go-Go Junglist Nuku From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 12:56:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26573 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 12:56:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 26565 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 12:56:35 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?ykxPnkVU+qDaEycYN/9woWJlTTl4BHwK?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 12:56:35 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id FAA26194; Sat, 15 May 1999 05:56:33 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 05:56:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: Nuku cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Quick review of Etheral. In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19990515101031.006b0f6c@apollo.sfsu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 15 May 1999, Nuku wrote: > > I think thought one of the best parts was being with my sfr family > again. All ma stress suddenly kinda dropped away and I was hanging with > shane, randy, max, steph, mook, jeremy, o wait on a side note..even Mr Nico > was shaking his arse to the jungle set and I could've sworn that boy to be a > trance devotee for life. but much love goes out to the old family even those > I missed..er micheal the stickman. Haven't you heard the truth? Nico is a DUHvotee. If you don't know get to know! Sweet seventeen, neva been kissed, yes tha man, Nico. > And ma love goes out to the new ppl I have meet this nite. AndyW > (run alcholic run, so freaking priceless), leslie, jessica, Bigm00 and may I > say again you did a lovely job and ooh he gave me a kiss on the cheek > *swoon* j/k Yes yes. Everything I do on the mic I do because of "Ha." Last call for al ca heezy hall, betta run alkie alkie run andy RUN. > Oh one of the best things I heard was from my co-worker. I asked her > while we were in the jungle room listening to Sciences set, "Do you like > this?" and she replied "I never heard this stuff before but I love it!" > Thats just gotta make you smile. Yes we love Jaqueline, please bring her everywhere as though she was your ID, ed-e. Here is my quick review all talking shit aside. Ryan, it's your birthday, let's have a surfer on acid. They are much better shots than "dirty foreskins." Sra. Ayers, you are the original soul rebel. Jess ica, big up you for being the slut chauffeur. Mechasoul posse....two words: big tings. Markis and Naomi, can't stop, the body rock. Harmony crew: "you can do it." those chicks that aren't on the list: boy are you fine. You make everything...groovy. Samoa posse: hahahahahah Bartenders: shots that cost more than 5 bux a piece should come in shot glasses, not shot plastics. what else. Science: you are cordially invited to play six years worth of breakbeat music every time. you rinsed it. the whole 12er of it. Andy W: run! bar's closing! Stickman: the bass II dark! Big M: nice1. we got your back man. imagine what 100% satisfied people would mean if there was more than two weeks to tell people about it! Shidalou: do you like the taste of german imported lips? what else...hmmm. This is wicked this is like senior quotes bizzness! Jeremy: You will make a great frat boy when you learn that warm gin, and not tequila is how to haze properly. All the girls I've loved before: thanks but no thanks, I can't believe my only real girlfriend ever is dating Julio Iglesias's son now. Fuck that shit. I need loot. I am flying to South America to regulate. Maybe if I had sent flowers... OK. 5 to 6. Time to strap the blades on, and skate to 7-11. Yes yes, it's about that time, to bring forth, the liquor and the rhyme. 10-4, duh, max see you at First Light for sure, and The Formula in spirit. BOH BOH BOH! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 15:07:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24013 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 15:07:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 23955 invoked by uid 233); 15 May 1999 15:07:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 14693 invoked by uid 228); 15 May 1999 07:02:20 -0000 Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 00:02:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Karina Powers To: sfraves-calendar@hyperreal.org cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org, Karina Powers Subject: This Week's SFR Calendar for 05.15.99 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I must take the time to apologize to you for not sending out the calendar this week on 5.14.99 I was really, REALLY (and still am) sick this week with a bad combo sinus problem and icky stomach problems.. went to the doctor today, still waiting to hear back the lab results from the doctor's office. Thanks for your patience. Karina ==================================================== What lies behind us karina@hyperreal.org and What lies before us are tiny matters When compared to What lies Within Us. -Oliver Wendell Holmes ==================================================== The SFR Calendar http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/sf/calendar/gencal.cgi _________________________________________________________________ Friday, May 14th - Ill Communications presents Revolution Levi (Kick Drum Recordings), DJ Seek (Moontribe 13, Spaceship Gaia), Atom (Ill Communication), Colin (Ill Communication), Gabe (Ill Communication). Free. Santa Cruz. 831.421.5091 Friday, May 14th - Novo Interactive presents Open House Featuring house, funk and tripped out beats with Chad, Xray64. a "Star Wars Phantom Menace" warm up party and open house, showcasing our work in the interactive space...We'll be playing the trilogy and, of course, the "trailer to beat all trailers." want a cooler job workin' tha net? then check us...bring a business card for a chance to win special prizes! 6pm-9pm, . SF. http://www.novointeractive.com Friday, May 14th - Groove On Productions presents Ethereal: An adventure in space and time Featuring an awesome mix of music with House, Trance, Techno, Break Beats, and Ambient. The best of local and imported talent., Micron (Vibration), Science (Vibration), Thorfio (Stargaze), Dyloot (Skills, MHz), Li (Vibration), Megatron (Groove on), Soul Kid (Groove on), SNRGY (Groove on), Andy W (Viberation), Dysfncshnl (Groove on), DJ Prophet (Groove on), Traid , David Hopper, Deepfog, Ruben Pantoja. Fully Permitted, Tickets at the door. Mind blowing visuals provided by Stefan G & CultureLab Visuals. With special performances from MC Angel and MC Duh. Let the vibe begin! 10pm-5am, 21+, $10. 550 Barneveld, SF. 415.207.6283 Friday, May 14th - Inertia Three rooms of sound:, Hip Hop w/, Wisdom, Raw-B, House + Trance w/, Joshua George, Dutch, Chill Lounge w/, Addy, Joshua, Jacob. Free after hours with admission. $10 Limited presales available at: Housewarez on Haight. Cocomo, 650 Indiana @ Mariposa, SF. Friday, May 15th - Splank presents FORMULA the Liquid Sky Tour Soulslinger (owner of Liquid Sky, NYC), 1.8.7. (Liquid Sky, Philly), Del Mar (Liquid Sky - NYC, AKA:River of Action,Koncrete Jungle,Shaolin Fist crew,1st SF appearance), Odi (NYC, Koncrete Jungle/scratch master), Aye~n (SF Splank/doin' it to ya in your earhole), MC's:, T.C. Islam (Miami, Liquid Sky, Zulu Nation~4th son of Afrika Bambata), Jamalski (SF, Ruffneck Reality, B.A.S.S.Kru, the old skool Boogie Down Productions crew), West Side:, Rinse & Flux (SF, B.A.S.S.Kru, Compound Records), Squirt (Dallas, 32degrees Crew, Herbal Science, System 7/ Vestax), B-side (Sac, Imagin Music,PBS crew), Ivry (SF, Splank). Sound by Mark Wayne. Limited $20 presale tikets,$25 at the door 415.487.7686 Friday, May 15th - Moonbeam Productions presents Children of the Night Simon Apex, DNA, Dragn'fly, Fuz-e, Mo, DJM, Patrick, DJ Doja, Crackbaby inc., Special Guests. $5. Sacramento. 916.366.1547 Saturday, May 15th - [vertigo.jpg] presents Devastatement Drum n Bass and Downtempo Breaks Infinite Posse (Live), Sage, Noel, Corbin, Huckster. Huckster@sfo.com 10pm-2am, 21+, $7. Cafe Du Nord, 2170 Market x Sanchez, SF. 415.339.8688 Saturday, May 15th - Loöq Records Release Party Hard house and techno beatz Spesh, Gil, Hyper D. Visuals by Jim Ellis (UV99).Lots of free vinyl and stickers for earlybirds (good stuff!) 10pm-2am, . $5 at door, $3 w/Qoöl Qard. 111 Minna Street, SF. http://www.looq.com Saturday, May 15th - Pork Chop Hill Shubert & Dizolve (Dub'L Vision) , Hak & Siphon (Urban Assault), Michael Liu, Damon ( Atp ). 12noon-8pm, All ages. Santa Clara Central Park, Santa Clara. Saturday, May 15th - Platinum Studio and Gallery presents In The Beginning Freddie (Chicago), Jose (By the People, SF), Matty B. (Housewares), Christophe (Club 69, Reno, SF), Olivier (Belgium). Located in a 10,000 sq ft inline skate park. Fully permitted to go untill 6am. The location is 1/4 my from hwy 80 just off the Keystone exit. Lasers by SF's finest - UV99. Please arrive early. Any one traveling from the Bay, will be guaranteed admission regardless of capacity. $20. Reno. 775.322.8002 Saturday, May 15th - Lucky a monthly jam Uptempo Upstairs:, DJ Josh (Conscious Session), Fabulizz (Conscious Session), Jim Hopkins (Twitch Recordings), Downtempo/Deep Downstairs:, Seven (Hi-Rise), Sol (Spark), AM (Release). 9pm-2am, 21+. Kate O'Briens, 579 Howard @ 1st and 2nd. 415.789.7377 Saturday, May 15th - THE cloudfactory PROUDLY PRESENTS: presents s/he*BANG - A FASHION PERFORMANCE (for the Fabulous) s/he*BANG - An event so fabulous, we just had to invite you! What: Food, Booze, cloudfactory Music and Sound, eyecandy, low Fashion,high Kitsch. Fashion Performance 7pm-9pm, Reception/Party immediately following. Tix: $10 in advance. Distro in the East Bay: Melissa 510.252.2720. Cindy 510.536.3384. Distro in San Francisco: Lauren 415.554.0387. Distro on the Peninsula: Lacie 650.627.9457. Tix also available at Something Else, 1603 Haight St. @Clayton in SF. 7pm-3am, . Crucible Steel Gallery, 2050 Bryant St., SF. http://www.cloudfactory.org/s/hebang 415.281.9432 Saturday, May 15th - First Light Collective presents First Light one year anniversary DJ's in Room 1:, Mars Vs.Mystre, Happy Kid Ian Vs. Happy kid Marty, Greg Sandler Vs. AndyW, Macadio, Andrei Morant (Template Records UK), Room 2:, Hak Vs. Siphon, Rinse Vs. Flux, Protolab (Live PA), Micron. Sound By Xtreme Audio, Lasers By UV99. This is a permitted Event. Presales Go on sale 4/20/99 at: F-8, Solid Grooves, Harmonics and In the mix. 10pm-6am, . 415.646.0763 Sunday, May 16th - Blankface presents CHEMISTRY A 14-hour mixture of sight, sounds and senses. NUCLEUS (outside patio):, John Howard (SF), Pete Moss (Ovum-Philly, PA), Julius Papp (Paper Recordings UK, SJ), Ellen Ferrato (Sugar, SF), Todd Michael (Blankface, SF), Fabulizz (Progress/Silky, SF), ATOMIC BREAKS (3-hour sets on 4 decks), Dom Some (Emerge, SF) vs. Moses (Uniting Souls, SF), Eversoul (Blankface, SJ) vs. Soulkid (USE Posse-Orlando, FL), Dfunkt (Beats Brigade, Santa Cruz) vs. Girl Friday (Blankface/Uniting Souls, SF), ELECTRANCE: , Scott dc (Nikita, SF), Keith Edwards (Blankface/Solid Grooves, SJ), Skyscraper (Blankface, SJ), Oddeci (Blankface, SJ). Visuals by Fuzzy. Cross Street: W. St. John, San Jose, CA. Free parking @ Market Street Garage across the street. noon-2am, 21+. $10 cover (free before 2pm). Club Ecco, 87 N. San Pedro, San Jose. http://www.clubecco.com 408.288.5856 Thursday, May 20th - ElectroDynamics DJs Logos (Solstice Party), Marx, Phazer (Solstice Party), guests. Bringing together fresh bodies and trance DJs. Trancedelic sounds begin early (6pm) for the happy-hour crowd, then deep-trance dance beats raise the dance floor till 2am. Queer & queer-friendly no-attitude eclectica. (at Harrison). 21+. Free before 9pm; $3 cover thereafter.. The Stud Bar, 399 9th St., SF. , May 21st - EMANON/Question Mark presents efflorescence - "the gentle process of flowering" Dutch, Moda, Greg Sandler, Happy Kid Ian vs. Happy Kid Marty, Erik Brown, Uphoria, Tracer, Alias, Gianni, Anya De La Rosa, Zach Darling, J-Bot, Diversion, Orion Z. Fully Permitted Sonoma County Location. 415.750.3002 Friday, May 21st - static cling productions presents Faze Main Room: Oboro Records, Tracy, Tao, E.T.I. (compliments of Daddys Records), J-Bot (Harmony), Dj D (T & J Factory), Marty (XLR8R), Tom-E (Static Cling), Tecni (Static Cling), Jungle Room:, Turtle (threshold vibes), Wain (threshold vibes), Spie (threshold vibes), Datem (threshold vibes), Russell G (Dancehall Militia), Hip-Hop/Trip-Hop:, We have PHAT dj's all lined up for ya!. Presale tickets $10<--->At the door $12 w/can $15 w/out Tickets available at--> Daddys Records, T & J Factory, BPM, Compound Records, Mixology, and Harmonics. We also have a great space for you...A lazer tag arena!! Its located in Santa Rosa. 707.325.0340 Friday, May 21st - children of the sun presents and the journey continues.. Brad (Moontribe/LA), Beatseed (Journees/Seattle), Greg Sandler (harmony), andyW (viberation), Micron (viberation), Macadio (First Light) . As Always Free Fruit & Lemonade - Limited Capacity - Presale Tix Strongly Advised. We Love You All / Spread The Warmth. 415.835.3144 Friday, May 21st - Silly and XLR8R Magazine presents MAZE Bringing you the best in international tribal techno trance. Adam X (Sonic Groove, NY), D.A.V.E. the Drummer (Live, Liberator Crew, UK), Maya 13/Deaks, Henrik Rosdahl, Mystrë, Charlotte the Baroness, Push, Justi. Every 3rd Friday of the month. 10pm-6am, 21+, $10. free b4 10:30. 550 Barneveld St., SF. 415.263.6750 Friday, May 21st - Da Roc entertainment presents ETERNAL PARADISE TOONS Quiet House Productions, REMEDY dmc finalist/B92.9/FM90.5, JV VALASCO da Roc entert., DJ PAPI groove night club , NOTORIOUS NORM City nights guest DJ - DJ CASUAL Rebel entert., DJ HEEBEE Club X guest DJ. US Dream Girls oil wrestle live on stage! Hard Body contest! FSA dance squad presents Haluan live on stage! It's also the beads night! 4 Go-Go cages, 2 stages. $170 thousand dollars worth of sound and lights including lasers. ALL AGES room &18+ room Fully stocked bar for those who are 21+. Freaky attire suggested. $15. 831.429.7779 Saturday, May 22nd - Blue Room & Eye Phunk presents An event for EVERYONE!!!! Live acts from the UK, Quirk (Matsuri), and SF's own grown Bufo (Ceiba Rec./EyePhunk), First time ever in America, top Drum&Bass dj, Audio Couture, Juice, Rugged Vinyl, and Beat Service recording artist TEEBEE(Moving Shadow/Certificate18), Techno/Trance DJ's-, back once again from Amsterdam, Lucas (MetalSpark/ Blue Room), Mark Allen (Quirk/Matsuri/Return to the Source UK), Adam Ohana(Bufo/Ceiba Rec./BlueRoom),, John Carel(Gateway Systems), Top Drum&Bass DJ's, E-Sassin (Soundsphere/Phunckateck LA), UFO (Phunkateck), Sage (Phunkateck), Siren (XLR8R/Bassment), Professor Smith (XLR8R), Down Tempo Groovers: , From Japan DJ Kudo (Artman/KIN Tokyo), General Idea of Diplodocus(KIN Tokyo), Arc Angel GabeReal (Future Breaks FM), Anon (EyePhunk/BlueRoom), Surreal (EyePhunk/BlueRoom). Two SF labels finally get together a spring bash for all ages... In a fully permitted SF location. 3 depressurized chambers for maximum lift off- FREE WATER(provided by Trinity Springs) & FRUIT. Techno Organic Smoothies by Power Punch $20---LIMITED TICKETS AVAILABLE get your PRESALE Tickets at: Frequency 8- 1816 Haight St. SF, Harmonics- 480 Mendocino Ave, Santa Rosa, Solid Grooves 2271 the Alameda, Santa Clara. 1.888.682.7666 Saturday, May 22nd - My House Productions presents SNUGGLE Marcellus (SF), Hiz Boy Elroy (SF), Taiyo (SF), Spike (KWR, Sac), Sonar (Chico), Wedge (Chico), Manic One (Chico), Ron Dare (KCHO, Chico), Kwashi (San Mateo), Erin (San Mateo), Jon Econ (Paradise), Woolove (SF). 10:00pm-6:00am, . Presale Tix ($8, $10 at the door) and info at Neo Retro. The Brick Works, 2nd and Wall Street, Chico. 530.893.2005 Saturday, May 22nd - Uniting Souls presents SoundTextures Come feel the abstract sounds of SF's underground Tag-teamin' 2x4 sessions:, Rasta Cue-Tip vs. J-Boogie (Beat Sauce KUSF 90.3 FM), Future Breaks crew (Arc Angel Gabe Real, DJ Push, Miss E), PBS crew (Mateo, No Battles, Buna). For your audio pleasure, we bring you a special night of jungle, hip-hop and breaks. Tune in to Future Breaks 90.3 FM Saturdays from 3-5 pm to win free passes to the party. Between 3rd & 4th off Townsend. 10pm-4am, 21+, $10. 330 Ritch, SF. 415.273.5449 510.273.2493 415.273.5449 510.273.2493 Saturday, May 22nd - small gathering Indoor event, an evening of jungle, trance and sick beats Mickey, Anakin, Sonic (aka Maize). More info on line up will be released later. $12. 415.449.7101 Saturday, May 22nd - l o v e w o r k s d a n c i n g presents " nature, rhythm, cloud, and sky " [ a celebration of the continuous beat of life ] for the love of may... featuring guest dj arkay performing an extended opening set, deep grooves and sonic architecture: resident dj matt valenz, guardian: robnoxious. btwn: 2nd / new mont. / mission . howard, s o m a these events are in partnership with the minna street gallery, now showing: l e n n i e m a c e ' s : 3 6 5 DAZE / ballpoint pen exhibit love / laughs / incense / flowers / candles / + the mightiest house music on earth. an audiosocial project implemented and monitored by the DDC. 9pm -. Minna Street Gallery, 111 minna street , SF . Saturday, May 22nd - We Got The Funk Bone (Detriot), Dj Dan (SF), Charles Feelgood (MD), Onionz (NY), Tony, Simon, Dan Isaac, Dj Pat, Anton, Dee, The Hitmen, Jonene (Stompy), Dj Jasen (LA), Barry Eves with MC JAMALSKI, KID MATHIS, Franklin,, a very special guest MC Brittany Andrews. Live: ETI. For Presale TIckets call Solid Grooves 408.248.6399 in San Jose, Primal Records (2420 Parker, Berkeley) 510.548.8511, BPM Music Factory (573 Hayes, SF) 415.487.8680, and Clear Music 415.437.1578. 415.436.0714 Saturday, May 22nd - Conscious Session an all night affair. Markie, Tracy, Harry Who, DJ Josh, M3, Laron, Spun. 415.273.5599 Saturday, May 22nd - The Trance & Jungle Factory presents **** Trance and Jungle Factory 2 Year Anniversary!!! **** Servicing the scene for 2 years with many more to follow!!! TBA, Thomas Trouble (T&J Factory), DJ D (T&J Factory), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Productions, Quest), Tom Slik (Skills), Dyloot (Skills, MHz), Uphonic (e.t.a.), Tracer (sf ug), Joaqman (T&J Factory, 5 Families), Amber (bay area ug), Eric Brown (Rebirth, Harmonics), Greg Sandler (Harmony, Harmonics), Rinse (Compound Records, B.A.S.S. Kru), Flux (Compound Records, B.A.S.S. Kru), MC Jamalski (Compound Records, B.A.S.S. Kru), Vertigo (bay area ug), Radley (MHz, Skills), Micron (Viberation), Andy W (Viberation). Pre-sale tix available through Frequency-8 (S.F.), Harmonics (Santa Rosa), Solid Grooves (San Jose) and the T&J Factory (Berkeley). Limited capacity so make sure you purchase a pre-sale to ensure your spot! Don't miss our celebration of the growing success of the trance and jungle scene. 415.248.2669 Sunday, May 23rd - YOGURT Two rooms of music...one house/one hip hop, House, Jon Howard, Galen (Sunset), Chris Haycock, Chris Perrins, Tino, Hip Hop, Apollo (original skratch picklz), Wisdom (Beatsauce S.F.), Toby, M.A.. BBQ from 6pm-9pm. 6pm-2am, 21+, $5. Club Ecco 87, N. San Pedro, San Jose. Monday, May 24th - Mushroom Jazz @ Jazid Up Mark Farina, Julius Papp, Heather. 10pm-3am, $5. Big Heart City, 836 Mission St., SF. http://www.om-records.com 415.777.0666 Thursday, May 27th - Unconditional Dance Adnan (Squeeze / Uniting Souls). @ Harbin Hot Springs, Middleton. 707.987.2477 Friday, May 28th - Star*burst Productions presents Star*burst Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records), Greg Sandler (Harmony/Harmonics), Joe Lanzon (Bagok Tribe), Jeyson (Davis Funky Family), Dragn'fly (Epiphany), Hoth (Positive Theory). 100% fully permitted new Sacramento location. Proceeds to benefit the Sacramento Food Bank. Presale Tickets can be purchased @ In Tha Mix and Imagine Music in Sac. and Primal in Berzerkeley... $5 w/ a canned food item, $7 w/o. 916.815.4337 Friday, May 28th - May 31st - Lightseed Collective presents Butterfly A Lightseed Campout in praise of Julia Butterfly Hill in honor of Luna More info to be announced... http://www.sfrecords.com/lightseed/ Friday, May 28th - Squeeze Adnan, Nathan, Ray. In the Blue Room @ Nikita. 12 midnight-4am, 21+. 1015 Folsom, 1015 Folsom, SF. 415.789.7208 Saturday, May 29th - Necropolis Electronica, Darkwave, & Industrial Alaric, Darkwave, Industrial, Raglan, OV23. Special Butoh dance performance by Collapsing Silence. Industrial lighting, blacklight chamber, subverted clubscape, bizarre videos, more... 10pm-3am, 21+. $8 before 10 pm and $11 after.. Transmission Theatre, 314 11th Street at Folsom, SF. Saturday, May 29th - Native Vison Productions presents M.A.D. LOVE PARTY A Going away party for Marcellus The Man With No Shoes Marcellus, Markiss Anthony, DJ Doubt, Siphon, And One Other TBA the Day of the free free fre party for all. Same Place Same Time For Info. noon-sunset, . 415.281.0777 Saturday, May 29th - CURTIS BAY and his Organic Trip-Hop/Hip-Hop/Acid Jazz/Drum-n-Bass Curtis Bay. Contact the TongueBath Tub for more info. at kimgerly@holonet.net 8pm-. Brain Wash Cafe, 1122 Folsom St., SF. 415.255.4866 Saturday, May 29th - Nomad Interactive presents Origin A full 8 hour journey into the depths of Techno, Trance and house music world acclaimed producer, direct from Detriot, KIKOMAN (Deep fried, Plus 8, 303, Missile UK Records), Markie Mark (Wicked) , DJ Josh (Gathering), Mars (Frequency 8), Mystre (Frequency 8), Gouracandra (Urban Development, Soundworks), Greg Sandler (Harmony), Dyloot (Skills, Happy Kids), Thomas Trouble (Tickle, Man in the Moon), Rick V (In the Mix, Bliss), Happy Kid Marty (Happy Kids), Mark Amoeba (Mixology), And Special Surprise Guest TBA. Discounted pre-sale tickets available exclusively at: Frequency 8 (SF), T&J Factory (Berk), In The Mix (Sac), Solid Grooves (SJ), Harmonics (SR), Mixology (SR). 415.675.5605 510.433.9933 408.278.5553 916.554.0554 Saturday, May 29th - Clockwork Eventz presents METROPOLIS 7 Underground dance districts of diversity METRODOME:, Donald Glaude, Terry Mullan, DJ Rktech, Hipp-E, Jeno, Tony, The ELECTRIC KINGDOM:, Charlotte The Baroness, DJ Liquid, DJ Ghost, Miss Knight, J-Boogie, Deep in the GARNET KONKRETE JUNGLE:, R.A.W. w/ MC?, Rinse & Flux w/MC Jamalski, U.F.O., Aaron V., DJ Dose, The Infamous Highlanders, FUNKYTOWN: Funky Beat's 4 yr anniversary:, Simon, DJ Doubt, DJ Matthew, Paucus, David vs.Joey Mazzola on 4, Jasen C., SECTOR 2:, Jon Williams, DRC, Chris Jackson, St. John, J-Bot, Charly Fusion, DJ Xolotyl, The Comfort, Room:, Deepfog, Boomerang, Triad, Reggae Lounge: come hang and feel da Irie vibes inside our reggae lounge. Prepare for the awakening!!! A night of bad ass talent, mixing through the most intense beats to date!!! A night of explosive performances, that will push the boundaries of the underground mentality!!! A night that will be out of control, filled with the amazement of an interactive multimedia extravaganza. LUMATECH lighting will be throwing down the fattest lighting show that nobody has ever seen before!! The Royal Rumble: mark wayne,jk sound,xtreme audio We will also be celebrating Funky Beats 4 year anniversary!!! HIEROGLYPHICS,THE PHARCYDE. Live p.a. Sound Of Light. 408.747.7742 415.721.4713 510.733.1140 916.565.6560 Sunday, May 30th - Koolada (A Tropical Excursion into Deep Funkiness) Enjoy the house sounds on the outdoor patio under a full moon..., Jonene, Tasho, Preston (Stompy Hi-Fi), Rasoul (Leaf, Large, Guidance Recordings), Harry Who?, Chris Perrins, get down, get funky with..., Mei Lwun (Soulstice, OM Records), M3 (Fully Loaded Recordings, Green Gorilla Lounge), Darkhorse (Three Sixty Records), Alvaro, Chris Haycock. Vegetarian BBQ/buffet. Corner of San Pedro & St. John. 2pm-2am, 21+, $10. free from 2 - 4. Club ECCO, 87 N. San Pedro, San Jose. Sunday, May 30th - Memorial Day Full Moon Free Outdoor on the Beach Onionz (chocolate factory), Rob Doten (daddys), Taj (spundae), John Rodriguez, Eric Erickson, TJ, David Coleman w/ Sen-Sei on keys. a Balance production. http://www.SFHouse.com 415.339.8015 Sunday, May 30th - EUROTIKA 3 Biohazard productions-L.A..(GABE &THEE-O), F-8-S.F.(MYSTRE), ANTHONY S(THE TRIBE), D!ZZ!(Fresno). . Modesto Centre Plaza,, Modesto. 209.236.6846 415.221.4142 Sunday, May 30th - Memorial Weekend Trance & Jungle Factory presents Man on the Moon Memorial Thomas Trouble, DJ "D", Phat Pat, Vertigo, many more!. Don't forget you've got Monday off!! So get your dancin shoes on and join in the trance family festivities. This is going to be a small party with limited pre-sales. Please check back later for more information! Big Heart City, SF. 415.248.2669 Friday, June 4th - Garnet and B.A.S.S. Kru presents Tommy Gun jungle w/, RINSE, NOEL, PUSH, HAK, JONTE, RUE, RUSSELL G. 18+, $8. 78 Minna, SF. 415.436.0735 415.332.5800 ext247 Friday, June 4th - Atlantis Takes You on a Groove Ride Jeno (Wicked, SF), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records & Quest, SF) , Tracy (Daddy's Records & Quest, SF), fabuLizz (SF), Girl Friday (SF), Sonic Oddyssey (SF), Caine (Silver Pearl & Quest, SF). Visuals by Nystagmus. 415.339.8123 Friday, June 4th - Rendezvous (ran da voo) A Beautiful San Francisco Trance Family Gathering! Lets Rendezvous all night with lots of love and music. See you there! 2 Rooms that will feature:, Thomas Trouble (Trance & Jungle Factory), DJ "D" (T&J Factory), Mars (Frequency 8), Mystre (F-8), Phat Pat (all the way from the U.K.), Amber (Bay Area UG), Vertigo, Tracer (San Francisco UG), Uphonic (E.T.A.), Joaqman (T&J Factory), Saucee (S.F.), Introducing Grant! (San Jose). This is a must attend party with lots to remember! Limited Pre-Sale Tickets go on sale May 10th for Only $19. Door will be $22, this party will take place at awesome facility but we do recommend Pre-Sale 13-at the Following Locations: Berkeley T&J Factory (510)704-9876, Santa Rosa Harmonics (707)571-8747 San Fran Frequency 8 (415)441-4142, Modesto Motion Music (209)577-6965 San Jose Solid Grooves (408)248-6399, Hayward Twilight Zone (510)538-7945. 415.721.3863 Friday, June 4th - Bliss DJ's House: , Johnny Fiasco (Chicago), Terry Mullan (CHicago) and Halo (Chicago) on 4 decks, Steve Loria (L.A.) and Tony on 4 decks, Donald Glaude (Seattle), Hippie (Denver), Rick V. and Dizzy on 4 decks, Karizma, Vince, Paul Gordon, Markus, Sugar D., Bryen, And IN THE JUNGLE ROOM:, Danny tha WIldchild (Chicago) and Phantom 45 (Chicago) on 4 decks, Dara (N.Y.), Flux w/ Jamalski, Presha and Stompa on 4, B-SIde, Ivry, Rif.... Held @ Cal Expo on in buildings A and B....All 3 rooms of sound will be covered by Mark Wayne.. Laser by Hollywood Dog...Visuals by I-Candy and L.S.D., Atmosphere by Funky Baby and A super large Chill Zone by Vega.... Presale Locations: In Tha MIx, Sacramento, 2329 I St. (916)442-0499, Solid Grooves 368 S. Bascom St., San Jose, (408)999-0259 Rock On, Fairfield, 1630 North Texas St. (707)422-2080, Motion Music, Modesto, 403 coffee St. (209)577-6965, Housewares, San Francisco, 1322 Haight st., (415) 252-1440 $25 @ the door and we have Very Limited 20 dollar Pre-sales . Sacramento. 916.554.0885 415.248.2678 408.920.2280 Saturday, June 5th - Gummiravers Thomas Trouble, Dj D. , Troy Roberts (Seattle), Tom Slik (Skills, Vertigo, SF), Dj Grant (San Jose), Dj Alert (SF). Flavored Raver productions presents a small, full-on candy trance party with the candy crowd's favorite twosome - Thomas Trouble and Dj D. Tickets: $15 pre-sale at Frequency 8, Trance and Jungle Factory, Solid Grooves, Harmonics. Big Heart City, 5th and Mission, SF. 415.267.3925 Saturday, June 5th - northbaycollective presents presents *S*H*I*N*E* 4 Rooms of Phunk. please call for more info. http://www.greenfieldgraphix.com/nbc.html 707.579.9688 Saturday, June 5th - Sister d&b room:, XJS, Alley Cat, Melanie (SF House Collective), Miss E (Future Breaks FM), House & Techno room: , Forest Green (techno west/cloud factory), Lori & Tracy. Sound by: cloud sound. Cross Street: Masonic. 21+. 1751 Fulton St., SF. http://www.xanthoria.com 415.255.4333 Saturday, June 5th - GoodeTyme Entertainment presents AMNESIA GoodeTyme Entertainment bring to you a Music lovers delight with reowned DJ's as follows: ONIONZ (ELECTRIC SOUL/Imperial Dub/Chocolate Factory- NYC), DORAN (Fragrant Music/RAM), JIM HOPKINS (Twitch/V-Wax/ELECTROLINERS,-SF), TONY (The Gatherings, SF), HAPPY KID MARTY (Happy Kids- SF), DJ TECHNIQUE (CLOCKWORK DJ's/Journeez Music), Homero X-Pinosa (GoodeTyme DJ's), Pistachio + Aonymous(Math Sound Workshop), Tracy (Sister/Daddy's Records), Jesse (the crate). Fully permitted and secure venue with over 40,000 square feet. 2 rooms +1 outside area. Industry-(promoters, venders, Art donations) 415.563.7777 $15. pre-sale or $20.00 @ door . 415.674.1111 Saturday, June 5th - E.T.A. presents Monument to Eternity A Hard Trance Rising Event Uphonic, Kemical Kidd, Tracer, Dyloot, Depth, DJ D. This is a limited capacity, pre-sale only event. For more information please call our voice mail. 415.364.1803 Friday, June 11st - VORG presents BREATHE A very special party at a once again brand spankin', fresh, new location!!! More TBA. 415.750.3100 Saturday, June 12nd - Curtis Bay's 1-Man Show of Organic Trip-Hop/Hip-Hop/Jazz/Drum-n-Bass is Curtis Bay, along with turntable madness of Intangible from Seattle, WA. 8mm 'Fly the Rhythm' Film Loops by Aermaneuver AKA Ariel Levy Contact the TongueBath Tub at kimgerly@holonet.net for info. 10pm-1:30am, . Cafe Du Nord, 2170 Market St., SF. Saturday, June 12nd - Uniting Souls presents presents SoundTextures Come feel the abstract sounds of the San Francisco underground! World renowned MARK Grant (Cajual/ Guidance Records), internationally acclaimed GEMINI aka, Spencer Kinsey (Cajual/Cyclo/Classic Records), Uniting Souls' much loved resident, DJ Moses will start off the night with a pumping 2 hour set. We're moving to keep you grooving to the 2nd Saturday of every month. For this special occasion we bring you two Chicago house legends performing together for the first time ever! We'll see you on the dancefloor! Tune into KALX 90.7 FM on Thursdays 12 - 3:00pm to win free passes. Between 3rd and 4th off Townsend. Email Us 10pm-4am, 21+, $12. 330 Ritch Street., SF. 415.273.5449 510.273.2493 Saturday, June 12nd - Silver Pearl Records presents QUEST Summer Solstice Guiding your Quest from dusk 'til dawn on 4 thumping sound systems with DJS: Jeno (Wicked, SF), Doran (Rampant Records and Hook Recordings, LA), Christopher Lawrence (Hook Recordings and Fragrant, LA), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records, SF), Steve Loria (Bang the Drum, LA), Barry Weaver (Funky Techno Tribe, Seattle), Astral Matrix (O.O.B.E. Music, SF), Jason Blakemore (Life Music, Aquarium, aka DJ Trance, LA), Tony (The Gathering, SF), Donald Glaude (Funky Teckno Tribe, Seattle), Caine (Silver Pearl, SF), MODA (Trancefusion Records), Greg Sandler (Harmony, SF), Tom LG (Silver Pearl, SF), Tracy (Sister and Quest, SF), Dieselboy (611 Records, Philadelphia), Rinse & Flux with MC Jamalski (B.A.S.S. Kru and Compound Records, SF), R.A.W. (Mictlan Recordings, LA), NMAN (Biofonik and Silver Pearl, SF), J-Bot (Harmonics, Santa Rosa), Incredible Ambient Chamber with:, B))merang and Triad, Many more to be announced.. As always, we will have amazing visuals in each and every room, thumping sound systems by Silver Pearl and JK, lasers in 2 rooms by UV99, environment by Silver Pearl, and incredible floral art by Anthony Ward of PassionFlora NYC. We will have a wonderful clean safe warehouse, plenty of FREE fruit arranged into beautiful edible altars, and lots of free water. Limited pre-sale tickets will be available May 15th at the following Bay Area locations... and remember, the first 500 pre-sale tickets will receive a FREE mix CD courtesy of Silver Pearl Records: Solid Grooves, San Jose (408) 248-6399, Daddy's Records, Berkeley (510) 665-1653, Harmonics, Santa Rosa (707) 571-8747, In the Mix, Sacramento (916) 442-0499, F-8, San Francisco (415) 221-4142, Compound Records, San Francisco (415) 864-8309, Pipeline, Santa Cruz (831) 425-7473, or by mail from Silver Pearl Records by e-mailing contact@silverpearl.com. http://www.silverpearl.com 415.273.5912 510.287.5620 408.278.5286 Saturday, June 12nd - Skills invites all a smiling to A STARRY NIGHT With very special guests from L.A., Thomas Michael, Thee-O, Demigod, Plus all your favorite local DJ's -, Dyloot, Tom Slik, Mars & Mystre, Radley, Thomas Trouble, DJ D, Uphonic & Kemical Kidd, Tracer & Telene, Happy Kid Marty & Happy Kid Ian.. 415.437.4460 510.869.4601 Sunday, June 13rd - Raver Day at Great America Fun in the Sun!. Meet @ the front gate @ 11am. Great America, Great America Parkway, Santa Clara. Friday, June 18th - The creators of Foundation, All in the Family, Emerald City and the creators of K2 presents United. In our House room, Jeno (Wicked, Gathering, SF), Eric Nelson (Love Affair), Sol (Togetha), Tyler (Motorway), Markus Mark, JP (Kick Drum), In the Drum and Bass room, Hans (Motorway), Stompa (Pbs), Billy (916 Junglist), Patr!c (Vega.) , Special Guest MC Shock G (A.K.A. Humpty) with Money B from Digital Underground. Visuals by Eyelusions.Call Down Town Sounds for information and presale tickets 916-444-7639. 916.523.0027 Friday, June 18th - OPEN HOUSE presents Strictly Underground w/ your Open House Supastars: Serendipity, Unity, Styven & Scott Bliss, along with Guest Djs:, Evillyn (blessing us with her presence all the way from HAWAII), Joey Mazzola (Influence Recordings), Jason (Unite Prod.), Ryan Christopher, Levi, Secret Squirrel, Pengo, Gilad (5D), DevDawg (Roswell/McDonald Foundation), LadyJane tha' pimptress w/ MC Ragga Banton, Aspect(I.B.S), MES (Daddy's Records,KICK DRUM), and more TBA. $12 presale tickets are now available at: Daddy's Records (Berkeley) and Primal Records (Berkeley). First come first serve. THIS EVENT WILL SELL OUT!!!! *This is a 225 person max capacity party* Much love to all! And remember always, KEEP IT UNDERGROUND!! 225 presale tickets. SF. 510.288.7676 Friday, June 18th - Counterpoint Productions presents Commence More TBA, Housewaves and Trancefrequencies by BARRY WEAVER (Funky Techno Tribe, LA), THOMAS TROUBLE (Trance and Jungle Factory, SF), TONY (The Gathering, SF), RIG-A-TONY (Sagitariun), TYLER (Counterpoint), DENNIS (THC), DJ SCOTT (Kick Drum), SCI FI, DAVID, DJ GLOW. LASERS by HOLLYWOOD DOG, THUNDERING SOUND by COMMUNITY, FREE FRUIT and CANDY, 2 ROOMS. 9pm-6am, All ages. $12 w/ canned food $15 w/ out. Sacramento. http://counterpoint.sacone.com 916.783.9948 916.866.3266 Saturday, June 19th - Magic Playground Mix Master Mike, Jeno, U.F.O, Taj, Abstract, Tony, Mechete, Star Eyes, Rick V, Rktech, Kenneth Paul . Flat-presale will be released 2nd week of May. Turbo Sound System. Discount tickets for $20, 15 light shows, bounce castles,ball huts,the wall of velcro as well as a full turbo sound system.....give aways in our dance competion on our linolium dance floor. Fully Permitted 10pm-6am, $25. JACKSON STREET WAREHOUSE, 225 Jackson St, Oakland. http://www.magicplayground.com Saturday, June 19th - Feel Good Entertainment presents Splendor Blender : "Its time to get your mix on". The Summer Solstice PLURity Vibe-Fest. the First Ever : With 6 Incredible Rooms of Splendid Music, Deepsky - Live PA (Fragrant Records, LA), DJ D:FUSE (Expansion Project, Funked Up Records, Austin TX), Moda & Jazz-E, DJ Kevin Kind & Kwashi, Mike Barrett & Kid Bippy, Eric Spire, MC Ray Vonie, Joey Mazzola & David Garcia, Ghost & Frank Nitty, DJ Liquid & DJ RKTECH, Greg Sandler & Logik, Thomas Trouble & DJ D, Corey & Brent Vassar, BluTonic (Universe, Ministry Of Sound, UK), Rinse & Flux, Hak & Siphon, Sideburn Slim, Jeff Taisch, Turtle, MC Duh, Deepfog, B))merang, Triad, Bodhi, Skye, DJ Phelan, Joaqman, Kid Loose & Rossi, DJ Mad Merc, Joe Lanzon, Randy H., Willow, Shubert, The Higlanders : DJs Tomcat & Saucer, Supernatural Turntable Artists DJs , Relm, Swiftrock, Streak, Deus, Jahrome, Ajaxxx, DJ Derrick D, Scotty Fox, SunnMoonSekt (Performing Live), DJ Quest, J-Wicked, Rasta Cue Tip, Fashion with Passion (Interactive Multi-media Rave-Fashion Expo), BeatDown Sundaze Afterparty: DJs:, Paucus, Tripnotix, Gran-T, Breeze, Ulrich, DJ Prophet + Guests. A Limited Number of Discounted $25 discounted Pre-sale tickets go on sale May 21st. For Pre-sale ticket info please see http://www.sfrecords.com or http://www.tixtogo.com/go/feelgood Summer Solstice PLURity Vibe-Fest A portion of Proceeds will Benefit Oakland Outreach & Educational Programs. Next door to the Coliseum. Doors at 10pm sharp. Party goes All-Night Long and afterparty till Sunday Night!!! http://www.globalparty.com Keep It Real Good With Feel Good. A GlobalParty production - The big party with that small party feel. Oakland International Rave Center, 633 Hegenberger Rd. 415.263.0483 408.881.0785 510.888.2358 Saturday, June 19th - FREQUENCY 8 4 year Anniversary Celebration Summer Solstice Campout Weekend Mars, Mystre, Dyloot, Micron, Tracer, Radley, Uphonic, Telene, Greg Sandler. Saturday June 19th- Sunday 20th. Very limited pre-sale tickets avaliable at F-8, Harmonics, and Solid Grooves. http://www.frequency-8.com 415.541.5019 415.541.5863 415.541.5019 415.541.5863 Sunday, June 20th - Hi Rise productions and Existential Sounds presents Backflip 2 year anniversary - Love and War Garth (Wicked), Jone`ne` (Stompy Hi-Fi), Markie (Wicked), Tasho (Stompy Hi-Fi), Jeno (Wicked), Preston (Stompy Hi-Fi), Moses (Sunshine Daydream), Girl Friday (Uniting Souls), fabuLizz (Uniting Souls), Seven (Hi Rise), Sol (Hi Rise), Michael Tello (Housepitality), Dave Chapman (Legion of Funk), Peterbilt (Hi Rise), Jason Henry (Legion of Funk), Push (Future Breaks), Miss E (Eklectik), PBS crew (Arc Angel Gabe Real, NoBattles, and Mateo), Jin (HiRise), Le'Le' (Legion of Funk). Tickets will go on sale Saturday, April 24 at local record stores: Tweekin Records, Housewares, Clear Records, Big Daddy's (Berkeley), and Primal Records (Berkeley). With food and festivities both indoors and by the pool. 12 pm-2am, . $10 in advance and $15 at the door. . Thursday, June 24th - XTORT Productions presents AMOEBA Simon Apex (SSU), Sascha23 (Xtort), dB (Xtort), Glow (Xtort), Dj Chad (Xtort/Alpha Zone). DIRECTIONS: Take I-80 east toward Reno, exit right on Madison, left on Auburn, right on Garfield. Turn left into first parking lot; building in back. First 50 people walk away with FREE promotional material from various record labels. FREE videogame booths provided by GAME-MASTERS. As always this is an ALL AGES event. Doors are open at 9PM so come early to beat the rush. Tickets: $8 at the door all night (come early to gaurantee entry :o). sacramento. http://home.earthlink.net/~sascha23 916.334.6200 Friday, June 25th - Nocturnal Productions presents X.O.X Returns 3 Year Anniversary Frankie Bones 2x4, Tony vs. Simon 2x4, Jim Hopkins, Mike Barrett, Leo, Dj Champ, Corey 2x4, Anton vs. Kwashi 2x4. Jungle and Trance lip TBA ASAP. Pre-sale tickets will only be $17. This event will sell out so please if you really want to go, please buy your presales. This event will be in a permitted location in a secure area. More info will be posted by the middle of may. This event will be my own pre-Freedom adventure. Friday, June 25th - climaXXX productions presents THUNDERDOME Trance:, Heidi & Anakin (Rebel Sound Alliance), DJ D (T&J Factory), Bryan Lee (Global Energy Music, SF/LA), DJ Eyal (Global Energy Music, Fragrant, Phatt Phunk Records, LA), Happy Kid Ian (Happy Kids), DJ 725 (Kuang Mark, XI), Happycore & Jungle:, Nebula (climaXXX), Simon Apex (Alpha Magic Recordings, UK) _-VS-_ DJ Nimh (Happy4Beat, Phoenix, AZ), DJ ansi (R.A.S.H., Redemption), DJ climaXXX (climaXXX). This will all go down in Berkeley, CA-400 person capacity. Free H2O, outdoor chill space, and more surprises... $10 Presale, $12 at the door. Presales available at Isolate Records, 2114 Addison, Berkeley.. 510.726.1303 Friday, June 25th - Squeeze Adnan, Nathan, Ray . In the Blue Room @ Nikita. 12 midnight-4am, 21+. 1015 Folsom, 1015 Folsom, SF. 415.789.7208 Saturday, June 26th - BIO.LOGIC Wichdokta, Random, MRK, Micron, Oz, Blake, Nagual, R2-Witco, Anon, Eva, The 5lower Shop, Lorax, Sonja, Matt, Sha-Wan, more to come. Three rooms in the North Bay. Saturday, June 26th - The müvmental Collective presents Reality Used to be a Friend of Mine Juan Atkins (Metroplex/TVT/WaxTrax/R&S Records), ANI (On-E) formerly of DEEE LITE (zoo york media), Barry Weaver (Funky Tekno Tribe), DRC (Twin Soul Productions), Sleepy C (psycoactive/AVA), Jeff Samuel (Lo-Fi Record/Nonstatic), DJ Ghost (Ghostribe Krew), Rinse & Flux w/ MC Jamalski (B.A.S.S. KRU), Smalls & 7UP (5 star productions), Dyloot (Skills/Mhz), Shakes (müvmental), Mua'dib (müvmental). This party is dedicated to all the kids who know where the Vibe lives. Presale outlets: F-8 Compound Records, Solid Grooves, In the Mix, Trance & Jungle Factory, Harmonics. We come together to create something beautiful out of love. http://www.muvmental.com 415.789.7366 510.273.2435 Saturday, June 26th - Harmony More information TBA. Friday, July 2nd - T r a n q u i l i t y presents WELCOME TO TRANQUILITY An out door underground event pushing the power of trance. Alias (Tranquility, Question Mark Productions), Mystre (F-8), Uphonic (E.T.A.), Telene, Merlyn (V.O.R.G.). 200 limited $10 pre-sales ONLY. 415.435.7567 Saturday, July 3rd - July 4th - 8TH ANNUAL FREEDOM FESTIVAL Line-up T.B.A.. Flyers out soon. 415.905.8888 Friday, July 9th - Garnet presents Double Trouble Part I jungle with, Dieselboy, Fury, Flux, Rinse, Saucer + Tomkat, Rue, MC Jamalski. 415.436.0735 Friday, July 9th - children of the sun presents Sunshine Of Your Love a summertime celebration of love, life, and happiness... 415.835.3144 Saturday, July 10th - TRANCE AND JUNGLE FACTORY presents Man in the Moon Reunited Thomas Trouble, Dj D, Eric Spire, Mars, Mystre, Dyloot, Tom Slik. Please check back soon for a huge line-up. Capacity is limited 2000 people, so please purchase your pre-sale tickets early. 415.248.2669 Saturday, July 10th - Forever Young Robbie Long vs. Devestate (Next Generation, UK) Happy Hardcore FIRST U.S APPEARANCE!!, SIMON APEX (Alpha Magic, UK) vs. DJ NIMH (Happy 4 Beats, Phoenix AZ), ANDY vs. B2B JOSH (Sac.), APOLLO SMILE (Forever Young, Sac.), DJ HERETIC (119 Crew, LA) vs. RIFF (Sac.) Jump up Jungle, DEMIGOD (Industrial Strength, LA) DUTCH (Happy Gabber), RON D. CORE (Freeclouds Mixinglab, LA) Terrorcore, IMIX (Navigator, Sac.) Live P.A Speed Garage, MOE (Sac.), RICKY RICARDO (Loolipop, Chico), JASON-WHO (Fuzze, Sac.), BLAKE (N.B.C), TANK (Sac.). All night, free fruit, free water, and free stuff for early birds. Please come with your open minds, smiles, and get ready to dance! *limited Presale at Subsonic Underground Record Store, Sac. 9pm-8am, $15. Sacramento. 916.603.2866 Saturday, July 10th - 6 in da mornin productions presents Ground Zero 4: Judgement Night - The Final Chapter (6AM 3 Year Anniversary) TBA. World Class dj lineup and live acts to be unveiled on Saturday, April 3rd 1999. Promoters and vendors please contact 6AM on the industry line (800) 683-4569. Except no imitations. 415.995.1940 Friday, July 16th - Garnet presents Double Trouble Part II jungle with, Danny the Wildchild, Phantom 45, Dr. Groo, Rinse, Flux, MC Jamalski. 415.436.0735 Saturday, July 17th - Torque Productions presents Zodiac House: , -Halo (Chicago) vs. Hipp-E (Denver/SD)- (H- Project/Catalyst/Moody), Ty Tek (Teknight Records/Basic Entertainment/Torque Resident; Denver), Little Mike (Basic Productions; Denver), Rick V. (Torque Resident; Sac.), Tracer (Skills) vs. Torque (Torque Resident; SF), Fabuliz (Consciouness Session; SF), ****MORE TBA****, Drum and Bass:, Fury (Lower World; SF), Deacon (Wreck Ignition/Ch. 36; LA), Rinse and Flux (Seperate Sets) (SF B.A.S.S. Kru/Compound Records), Sharp (Torque Resident; SF), ****MORE TBA****. Limited Pre-sale tickets available for $20 @ Housewares (SF), Compound Records (SF), Trance and Jungle Factory (Berkeley), Daddy's Records (Berkeley), In tha Mix (Sac), Solid Grooves (San Jose) Harmonics (Santa Rosa)-Rock On (Fairfield) 415.345.9668 Saturday, July 17th - INNER EYE presents oOo AREA 51 oOo ((((((CONTACT)))))) TBA. We are organizing this event to be the most epic event of the summer... Top secret information will be released on May 1st, until then all info is CLASSIFIED... Stay tuned in... Friday, July 23rd - Red Skye Productions presents Scoobi Snack Henrik Rosdahl (no tv, SF ), Crom , Charlotte the Baroness (Sunburn Hardkiss, SF), David Michael (Phasedmusic, Wish, Spundae, SF), Hank the guy with records , 707.793.2150. North Bay Location. Advance tics @ f8 and harmonics. Rumor has it Dave n Char are going 2by4 for 3 hours hmmmm.... $7. Sunday, July 23rd - FREQUENCY 8 Stay Tuned In Mars, Mystre, Dyloot. FREE Daytime Event in Golden Gate Park 1-6pm. More TBA. 415.541.5019 Friday, July 23rd - Megahertz presents 80MHz Dyloot, Aspect, Radley Marx, Elias Smith.. more TBA http://www.mhz.nu/80mhz 415.395.8448 Saturday, July 24th - Unity Vibe Tribe presents NETWORK Eric Micheal (Unity Vibe), LSDJ (Unity Vibe) , Moda (Transfusion), N8 (Unity Vibe). Unity Vibe Tribe invites you to join us NETWORK Together, To Understand a higher level of Electronic music. This line up is far from being completed..Please check with our voice lines 4 more information..This event will be dedicated 4 those that Truly appreciate Electronic music..100% pure vibe fully permited, enormous capacity. Saturday, July 24th - Open House w/your Open House Dj's: Scott Bliss, Serendipity, Styven & Unity, along with Guest Dj's: , Woodrow Low (A.M. Prod., Seattle), Jon Lee (Concepts, Seattle), Mes (Daddy's, Kick Drum), Joey Mazzola (Influence Recordings), Secret Squirrel, Jason (Unite Prod.), Gilad (5D), more TBA!!. Much love to all! And remember always, KEEP IT UNDERGROUND!!. SF location. 18+. (pre-sale tix available soon!). SF. 510.288.7676 Saturday, July 24th - @spire, 2 years in the making... We're back... Tell a friend! HK Marty (Happy Kids Productions), HK Ian (Happy Kids Productions), Carlos (N.Y. / S.F. House Collective), Greg Sandler (Harmony / Harmonics), Li (Harmony), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records / Quest), Pistachio & Anonymous (Math Sound Workshop / @spire), Logic (North Bay Collective), DRC (Twin Souls Productions), Gianni (Harmonics / Spundae / Release), Theo (Biohazard / Base 9, L.A.). We're back... Tell a friend! More information coming soon! 100% permitted in a centralized Bay Area location. 10pm-6am, . 415.273.5513 415.273.5513 Friday, July 30th - SKILLS presents Cake Walk Dyloot, Tom Slik, Radley, Mars & Mystre, Ron Allyn. Full EAW sound by JK. 5 watt argon laser by UV99. Lighting by Impact. Intellabeams by Math Workshop. Glow by SKILLS, Free candy, fruit & H20. 100% fully permitted & secured. Thanx to all who have supported us, please come with open minds. 10pm-6am, $11. pre-sale ONLY! @ F8, T&J Factory, Solid Grooves, Harmonics and In tha Mix.. 415.437.4460 510.869.4601 Saturday, July 31st - Mytical Mayhem Productions presents Serenity MC Jamalski (B.A.S.S. Kru, SF), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records & Quest, SF), Greg Sandler (Harmony & Harmonics, SF), Doran (Rampant Records, Hook Recordings, LA), Moshe (SF), Gianni (Release, & Spundae, SF), Joey (Housenation) on 2 x 4, DJ Doubt(Ministry Of Sound,UK) on 2 x 4, Kevin Kind (FGE), Kwashi (FGE), Hak & Siphon (Urban Assault), Sideburn Slim (Native Vision Prod.), Eric Brown (Rebirth & Harmonics), Moshe (SF), Willow (Mystical Mayhem), and many more to be announced.. Stay tuned for more information.... For information please call Mystical Mayhem (the cocreator of Rebirth) brings us SERENITY. So many firsts at this event which include fresh new tracks from Influence Recordings artists Doubt & Joey & aromatherapy environment. Also free fruit, lemonade, massage practioners, etc. brought together to create an experience for all the senses. For info, promotion, vending, ideas, etc call 10pm-6am, . 415.789.7344 408.882.5090 415.789.7344 408.882.5090 Saturday, July 31st - Full Circle Reunion - TechNique James Christian (NYC), Vicious Vic (NYC), Tony, Garth, Simon, DJ Matthew, with more T.B.A.. More info on the way! Sunday, August 1st - Existential Sounds presents... presents Birth...a celebration of Life. Garth (Wicked), Markie (Wicked), John Howard (Heavy Rotation), Chang (Simons, Gainesville, FL), Three (Hallucinations Records, Tampa, FL), Brian Busto (The Rubb, Tampa, FL), and more TBA. . An indoor/outdoor event featuring an art show. (between Potrero and Utah) Art show from 3PM-8PM. Music from 2PM-2AM. Tickets available May 31, 1999. Buses to the location: 33 Stanyan 22 Fillmore 9 San Bruno. email: avatarz@earthlink.net avatarz@earthlink.net or salivatethurs@hotmail.com Tickets available at Tweekin' Records, Housewares, Big Daddys (Berkley), and Primal Records (Berkley). Free before 4 pm, $8 in advance, $15 at the door. . IL Pirata, 2007 16th St, SF. 415-626-2626. Saturday, August 7th - Torque Productions presents Leo House:, CZR (MCM TOUR... Subliminal Records, Moody, Catalyst; Chicago), Angel Alanis (MCM TOUR... Chicago), Halo (MCM TOUR... Chicago), Chris Irvin (Satelite Records; NYC), Ty Tek (Teknight Records, Basic Entertainment, Torque Resident; Denver), Torque vs. Tracer (Torque Residents; SF), Rick V. (In tha Mix, Torque Resident; Sac), Fabuliz (Consciouness Session; SF), ***More TBA***, Drum and Bass:, Danny tha Wildchild (MCM TOUR... Good Boys, Camouflage Sound System; Chicago), 3D (MCM TOUR... Forte Records; Chicago), Fury (Lower World; Denver), Rinse vs. Flux (S.F. B.A.S.S. Kru, Compound Records), Sharp (Torque Resident; SF), Satori C (Humble Souls, M.E.S.S., Basic Entertainment, Torque Resident; Denver), ***More TBA***. Saturday, August 7th - Space Children's 4th Annual Juggernaut Festival! Tim Taylor (Missle Rec. UK), Cesar, Twerk, Greg Sandler x Dutch, Mars x MystrE, UFO x Noel, PBS Crew. Live: Spacetime Continuum, Crash Worship, Cosmic Selector x Buna, BazZaRrO. Much, much more TBA, get ready for something EPIC this summer!!! We've missed you, and we can't wait to party with you all again. *Keep in touch with our info sources, we've got a couple of free parties coming soon... http://www.spacechildren.com 415.675.4700 Saturday, August 7th - Native Vision Productions presents The Prophesee DJ LINE UP & MORE INFO TO FOLLOW IN JUNE . We Invite you to celebrate the remembrance of the Prophecy that made the world what it is today. The Prophecy goes like this: In the beginning we sat in a circle to share and remand as one with each other and Mother Earth, then the creator came down and split us up in to the red, white, yellow, and black we were all to accomplish a certain number of things then come back into the circle and share. We need to remember the root of it all. So we the people for the Earth can live. http://www.globalparty.com/nvp/ 415.281.0777 Sunday, August 8th - 3horsemen Productions presents DAISY Thomas Trouble, D.J. D, Simon, Greg Sandler, Elias Smith, J-BOT.. A party with real heart. It's Daisy's birthday and she wants to see all those happy party friends of hers there. Join us in S.F. because the weekend is not over till it's over. With free snacks at 5PM and a hunken big cake at 6PM. We are all one big family kids so join us in celebrating Daisy's birthday and if your birthday is this weekend you get in free. Party is limited to 650 pre-sale tickets. At the door admittance as space becomes available. Get your $15 pre-sales at: Harmonics(Santa Rosa), Frequency 8(San Francisco),T&J Factory(Berkeley)"HAPPY BIRTHDAY DAISY" 4pm-4am, . http://www.3horsemen.com 415.721.3929 Friday, August 13rd - August 15th - Camp Harmony TBA. All weekend camping celebration!!! More information TBA. Friday, August 21st - Clockwork Eventz & Goode Tyme Entertainment presents The Vinyl Frontier with a world class line-up of DJ's from all around the world...not to be missed!!. 415.721.4713 408.747.7742 510.733.1140 Saturday, August 21st - FREQUENCY 8 Cybertrance Communication Stay Tuned In.. http://www.frequency-8.com 415.541.5019 415.541.5863 Friday, August 27th - August 28th - VORG presents A SPECIAL 2-DAY LAKESIDE CAMPOUT with amazing European live-performers. More TBA. 415.750.3100 Saturday, August 28th - Aliennation krew presents Abduction ! With the bay area's top dj's!, Tony, Simon, Frank Nitty, Joey Mazzola, Tripnotix, Paucus, Tommy Meyer, More t.b.a!. Main flyer coming in june 28, 1999!!! Saturday, August 28th - The Trance and Jungle Factory presents TICKLE 4 Extravaganza!!! Watch out for an amazing line-up!. More info t.b.a. 415.248-2669 Saturday, August 28th - InnerEye and (((THUMP))) Radio presents HALLUCINATION - 4th Annual pre-burningman trip-out HALLUCINOGEN - LIVE P.A. (Twisted Records, UK), TRISTAN (Twisted Records, UK), SIMON H. (Twisted Records, UK 1999 tour), PSY-WILD (213 Records), DUTCH (InnerEYE), others T.B.A. . 3 Areas,Techno/Trance room, Jungle/Breaks room, and Down Tempo/Ambient room. Amazing line-up and San Francisco Venue. More to come....... http://www.innereye.org 415.339.8082 510.595.5555 Saturday, September 4th - Feel Good Entertainment presents Megga-Buzz 4-U The 4th Annual Labor Day 3-Day Holiday Weekend PLURity Vibe-Fest! The Premier of local DJ Showcase. Buzz Line Birthday party celebration event. Keep it Real Good with Feel Good. http://www.globalparty.com Friday, September 10th - (((THUMP))) Radio presents X-Dream!!! (blue room records) TBA. Check back soon for more info. Saturday, September 11st - EarCandy Two - Our One Year Celebration TBA, Mars, Mystre, Dutch, Uphonic, Tracer, Micron, Dyloot, Happy Kid Ian, , and more TBA :). 415.281.8384 Saturday, September 11st - We're celebrating another year with EARCANDY Mars (F8), Mystre (F8), Dutch (Area 51), Greg Sandler (Harmony), Uphonic (ETA), Dyloot (Skills), Tracer (EarCandy), Micron (Vibration), Happy Kid Ian (Happy Kids), more TBA. 415.281.8384 Friday, September 17th - Megahertz presents 100MHz Aspect, Radley Marx, Elias Smith, Dyloot, Special Guests.. more TBA http://www.mhz.nu/100mhz 415.395.8448 Saturday, September 18th - ASR 2 Year Anniversary Three room's of superb DJ's TBA..... This event will be in celebration of ASR's two year anniversary, therefore ASR will go back to it's roots, the Monterey Bay. Saturday, September 18th - Silver Pearl Records presents Quest TBA . Stay tuned for details... http://www.silverpearl.com 415.273.5912 510.287.5620 408.278.5286 Saturday, September 25th - Harmony Sixth Year Anniversary Celebration!!! TBA. More Information TBA Saturday, October 2nd - Mystical Mayhem line up TBA. Details TBA 415.789.7344 408.882.5090 Saturday, October 2nd - E.T.A. presents The Red Shift Info T.B.A.. Saturday, October 9th - Skills trance room:, Dyloot & Tom Slik, Radley Marx, Mars & Mystre, Thomas Trouble, Happy Kids Ian & Marty, hardcore/happyhardcore room: From L.A.- , Ron D. Core, Demigod, Paulina Taylor, Plus locals - , Aspect, Simon Apex, Uphonic. 415.437.4460 510.869.4601 Saturday, October 16th - The Trance and Jungle Factory presents *****TICKLE 5!!!***** TBA. watching this space... 415.248-2669 Saturday, October 23rd - Dub'L Vision Productions presents Tba Jeno (Wicked),, Tony (Gathering), Shubert (Dub'L Vision), Vertigo (Trance & Jungle Factory), Oddeci (Blankface), Keith Edwards (Chemistry) . Much much more Tba. Saturday, November 6th - Harmony TBA. More information TBA. Saturday, November 13rd - Silver Pearl Records presents Quest 2 Year Anniversary TBA . Stay tuned for details... http://www.silverpearl.com 415.273.5912 510.287.5620 408.278.5286 Saturday, November 20th - Pacific United Ravers (PÜR) presents AWAKEN DJs TBA SOON. What was once a dream, a vision, a fantasy has finally become a reality to the PuR family. Along the road to the making of this event we have had many supporters contributing and combining their thoughts, skills, and love just so you, the raver, can indulge in our makings. We will be having 2 rooms, Techno/Trance in one room and Hardcore in the other, we will also have a lovely Ambient room. We will be showcasing all your favorite local DJs as well as premiering our own resident DJs that we guarentee you will see or expierience more of in the future. We welcome you to the awakening of the PÜR Kru and the setting of the vibe for the 2000 underground party scene! Voice Mail coming very soon... Send mail to PuR_iNSaNaTee@yahoo.com Saturday, November 27th - Feel Good Entertainment presents The Spirit of Giving The 3rd Annual Thanksgiving 4-day Holiday Weekend Plurity Vibe-fest Keep it Real Good with Feel Good. http://www.globalparty.com W E E K L I E S House/techno/acid jazz/jungle/ambient/etc reg'lar happenins Some of them may have ended - let me know when that happens... Saturday Housepitality - like we always do about this time w/DJs in the attic:, Jonene (Stompy), Jason henry (Salivate), Dj Riddler? (resident), in the insect lounge:, Push (Future Breaks 90.3 FM), Lo-ki (Koncrete Jungle), Dj Lexxus!. Every 1st and 3rd Saturday of the Month. Join us for a night of intense house and jungle rhythms! 9pm-2am, $10. free B4 10. 415.273.5449 510.273.2493 Tek-No-Bas - techno, jungle w/DJs Stealth, Danger. Expect to hear jungle, drum and base, and techno both Detroit and European. 9pm-2am, 21+. $5 cover from 10-2. Club 1028, 1028 Geary St., SF. Pablos Sugar Shack - Pablo's Resident DJs:, John Howard, Norman Stradley, Jellybear, Miguel Migs, Rasoul, Romanowski. Big Heart City, 836 Mission Street, SF. http://www.pablos.com [4.10 - Ellen Ferrato, Miss Megan] Other Whirled - House, Techno w/DJs Nobel, Vince, Christine, Daniel, Henrik, guests. saturday morning 5:30am-3pm, 21+. the EndUp, 6th Street @ Harrison, SF. 415.208.7665 Release - House, techno, jungle, funk, trip hop, disco w/DJs Doc Martin (1st Saturday each month), Marques Wyatt (2nd Saturday), Deep Dish (3rd Saturday), Terence Toy, Julius Papp, Behrouz, Tom Thump, Ellen Ferrato, Norm, Thomas Roberts, BB Hayes, Jason Edwards, Anthony Scott, Jerry Ross, Eric Lacy, Atom, DJ D, Gianni, special guests, Martin, Bruce, DeMilo. Release has a dress code. 10pm-9am, 21+, $10. 1015 Folsom, SF. http://www.sfstation.com/clubs/release.htm 415.281.0823 [5.15 - Deep Dish] [5.29 - Farley & Heller begin their Mixer Magazine Tour] [6.12 - Marques Wyatt and Erick Morrillo] [6.19 - Deep Dish] [6.26 - CJ McIntosh] La Belle Epoque - 21st Century Drum n' Space w/DJs Mike Bee, Wish FM, Sea, guests. 10pm-2am, 21+. the Top, 424 Haight St, SF. Carry On - Underground house and garage music. w/DJ Mauricio Aviles. Cross Street: Howard. 10:30pm-4am, 21+, $8. Club Asia, 201 9th St., SF. Club Universe - Funk, House, High energy dance. w/DJ Special Guests and artists every week. 9:30pm-7am, 21+, $10. free b4 11pm. 177 Townsend, SF. 415.289.6650 FreeStyle - House and Funk w/DJs Christopher (Resident), Weekly Guests. Hosted by Mizz Ana Maronic. 21+, $5. free before 11pm. 399 9th St., SF. PUSH - house w/DJs your pushers, mouse, travis, chris orr. Matt valenz creates sonic sculpture for the dancefloor through the mediums of hi-tech deep house and technofunk. A popular underground affair attended by the city's most adventurous party people... this AIN'T the sound factory. Between Market and Mission. 9pm-2am, 21+, $7. Jessy Alley, SF. Plush - house, techno, trance, funk, trip hop, soul, beats, 70's w/DJs Resident Djs:, Thayton, Johnny, Julius Papp, Gianni (San Francisco), Scott DC (San Francisco), BBHayes, Guest from the bay area and around the world. Visuals by Jose G. Museo Contempo.Martini Bar on the Patio. Featuring the best Gin and Vodkas. Open for Happy Hour @ 5pm. No cover before 9:30pm. 4 Dance Areas featuring Funk, Trip Hop, R&B, Sould Classics, beats, 70's House, Trance Progressive House and Deep House. 21+, $10. Free before 9:30pm. Club Ecco, 87 North San Pedro, San Jose. http://www.clubecco.com/days.htm 408.947.1667 408.793.0238 Tricorder - downtempo, hiphop, electro, breakbeat w/DJs marlo, monkey, flint, special guests.. Teetotling our way through the classics you've never heard before. Every 1st and 3rd Saturday Located on 24th between Mission and Valencia. 9pm-2am, 21+, $1. The Attic, 3336 24th Street, SF. http://www.shooby.com/tricorder Wicked Session One - drumnbass, ambient, hiphop w/DJs Sep (turntables), Stephen Kent (digeridoo), Peter Valsamis (percussion), Echo. "Wicked Session One" is the first in a series of upcoming nights in 1999 featuring acoustic and electronic musicians and DJS exploring the connection betwen dub, drum& bass, hip hop and ambient music. $6. Elbo Room, 647 Valencia, SF. Flikker - house w/DJs Rotating residents, Jus' Joel, dj d-paul, lee., Plus special guests.. 9pm-2am, 21+, $3. free before 10pm. Sacrifice, 800 South Van Ness @ 19th, SF. Sunday Bionic - bringing dubby dancefloor delerium and spaced out house every sunday w/DJs Solar, Mark E Quark, IZ. 10pm-2am, $3. the Top, 424 Haight, SF. Spundae - House, Techno w/DJs Carlos, David Michael, weekly guests. free b4 10:30p For 02.14.99 - 6 Year Anniversary Party! 5 elements giving you 11 decor by Ashley. 10pm-5:30am, 21+, $5. 1015 Folsom St, SF. http://www.spundae.net 415.974.9389 [5.23 - DJ Dan] [5.30 - Memorial Day Weekend Special Line up coming. Stay tuned.] Leopard Lounge - Acid Jazz, Funk, Soul, Pop & Live Bands. w/DJs Jerry Ross, guests. The Hi-Fi, 2125 Lombard @ Fillmore, SF. 415.771.2583 Pleasuredome - Funk, House w/DJs Neil Lewis, guests. 21+, $8. 177 Townsend, SF. 415.985.5256 Dub Mission - SF's only dub night. The best in dubs and roots every Sunday. w/DJs I, Maneesh the Twister, Vinnie, Sep (kusf/kpfa), J.Boogie ("Beatsauce"), Ludichris, other suprises. Contact 647 Valencia @ 17th, mission. http://www.geocities.com/~dub_mission/ 415.552.7788 [5.16 - DJs LUDICHRIS and J.BOOGIE (Reggae/Dub - DJ DANCE)] [5.23 - DJs SEP & VINNIE] [5.30 - J BOOGIE's DUBTRONIC SCIENCE, DJ SEP, STEPHEN KENT] The Cafe - house w/DJs Mathew Baker, Jay-R. 8pm-2am, 21+, Free. the Cafe, 2367 Market Street, SF . 415.861.3846 Liquid Sundays - Beetroot, quest djs. 21+. Liquid, 2925-16th St @ S.Van Ness, SF. Cosmic Hands - drum n bass, techno, house w/DJs chris jackson, nada, leath, tomas, jaz, hak, toby, paul leath. . This is a free party which happens on the first sunday of every month. Begins 2.07.99 9pm-2am, Free. Waves, 65 Post St, SJ. Monday kate o'briens on monday nights - DJs Christopher Robin (Oakland), Evan (SF), special quests. This party takes place on the 2nd and 4th mondays of the month. 7pm-2am, $5. Free b4 10pm.. Kate O'Briens, 579 Howard, SF. [5.24 - Hector Morales (Primal Records)] [6.7 - Neil (House Blends Crew), Ron Isen (Bulletproof Boat Party)] Movin on Up - It's a vibratory thang w/DJs marc anthony, kevin, guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. The Top, 424 Haight, SF. Noc Noc - Drum'n'bass, downtempo and electronica w/DJ Mohsen. every other Monday. 9pm-2am, 21+, Free. 557 Haight St, SF. 415.861.5811 Density - Urban Beats saturated with Drum & Bass. w/DJs Residents:, DJ Al Simmons, Noel, JBoogie, special guests. Hosted by MC Angel. Cross Street: Hayes 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. The Justice League, 628 Divisadero, SF. 415.289.2038 Monday Mood Lounge - Happy Hour Downtempo to Drum and Bass w/DJs Triadessa, guests. 4pm-, 21+, Free. 406 Clement St, SF. HouseBlends - a special brew of house w/DJs a special brew of house w/DJs, Mes, Bloom, Tune, Neil, Abdul, Conrad, Friends (Weekly Rotation). Free before 10pm. Spend Happy Hour with HouseBlends (7pm-10pm). 10pm-2am, 21+, Free. the Top, 424 Haight, SF. http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Lounge/6072/ 925.988.7447 415.273.1308 Tuesday PHUNCKTION - Drum & Bass in motion w/DJs Residents: , Noel, JUJU, plus special guest TBA. Every tues. begining April 5th, 1999 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. THE TOP, 424 Haight St, SF. http://www.sfdb.com/ 415.789.8000 x1147 Pleasure - Residents, B.B. Hayes, Mark Silva, Matt Mau, plus weekly guest djs.. Real house music for real house heads...come into San Jose and get that SF feel. 9:30pm-2am, 21+. Free before 10:30...5 bills after.. Agenda Lounge, 399 South First Street, San Jose. Pure - house w/DJs Brian Brandon, guests. 9pm-, 18+. The Rage, 1890 Arden Way, Sacramento. 916.929.0232 Static - Techno, Drum & Bass, Downtempo, Electro, Experimental.... w/DJs Dj Sifu (Resident), Joe Rice (Justice League Sound System), Tomas (Umoja), J-Bird (Sunset/Pacific), Bre Ad, Sutekh, Re Ach, Quantum 23, Tomas, Sifu, J-Bird, Safety, Scissors, Sean Murray, guests. Static offers musical alternatives to listeners and dancers who are tired of pre-pubescent ravers, New Age missionaries and club culture, in general. Admission is $5 (21 and over, please). Come check out the two, newly fattened sound systems. 10pm-2am, $5. The Cat's Club, 1190 Folsom St, SF. http://www.belief-systems.com/static 510-496.3444 [5.18 - [Matmos (Vague Terrain) and Morgan Geist (Environ, Clear)] Spark - drum'n'bass, downtempo, jazzstep w/DJs Seven, Sol, Jason Greer , guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, $4. Backflip, 601 Eddy St @ Larkin, SF. 415.771.3547 [5.18 - Swingsett (NY) and Lo-Ki (Konkrete Jungle-NY)] [5.25 - Sifu] [6.1 - Rue and Presha (Compound Records)] [6.8 - Marty (xlr8r) and Monkey (Tricorder)] [6.15 - PBS Crew + Laron (Frisky Records)] Spin Cycle - music of all types w/DJ guests weekly. 7:30p-midnight, All ages. CSUMB's Black Box Cabaret. http://www.cloudfactory.org/upcoming.html 831.457.7726 Tuesday nights at the Agenda - guest djs. upstairs at the agenda 21+. $5.00 after 10:30. 399 south first street, San Jose. Jive Samba - Josh Jones, Latin Jazz All Stars (Live), Chris (Electronic flavor with drum and bass), jazzy jungle. Come inside, cuddle up to a fire, a strong drink and a hapless passerby. Drink and dancing until two a.m. 21+, $5. Storyville, 1751 Fulton, SF. Core - drum & bass and beyond... w/DJs jefsta, cera, weekly guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, $2. Liquid, 2925 16th Street @ S. Van Ness, SF. http://hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~mkello01/core.html 415.790.4974 Wednesday SYNESTHESIA - Resident Djs, DUTCH, JEFF TAISCH. . - All welcome - 300 capacity - @ 19th St. One block from the 19th/Broadway BART station. 9pm-2am, All ages. $8/door-$5 w/can of food for The Floral Depot Project.. 1921 Telegraph Av., Oakland. 510.595.5555 415.339.8082 BassTrap - house, elctro, jungle, breaks - anya, cloud, swoops, thebasstrapallstars. Third wednesday of every month. Get the digs at BassTrap. 9pm-2am, 21+. http://www.3d-dynamic.com/basstrap/basstrap.html 707.524.9804 PURIFIDE - on the first wednesday of every month - tech house tekno progressive trance w/djs: w/DJs J-Bot, Gianni, M.A.C., Cloud, and guests. Purifide 9pm-2am, 21+. Anthony's, 53 Montgomery Drive, Santa Rosa. 707.571.8747 @mosphere - Fabulizz (Progress, Silky, Conscious Session), Seven (Spark, Hi-Rise), Jason Greer (Spark), Andre. Cross Street:Fillmore. We mix up downtempo, drum-n-bass and house. Finally, good music in the Marina! Yuppies and scenesters unite! 21+, $3. Hi-Fi Lounge, 2125 Lombard. Sol (Spark) DEEP INSIDE - A deep house excursion w/ residents DJs w/DJs Taj, Josh (the Gathering), w/ weekly special guests taking it even deeper.. Every Wednesday except the 1st Wednesday of the month. This party starts 04.14.99. 10pm-4:30am, 21+, $5. Deep Inside The Bassment of 1015 Folsom , 1015 Folsom St, SF. 415.281.0544 Return of the B-Sides - Resident D.J. Solomon, guest, Solomon. Hiphop, Funk, Soul, and Dance Hall every wednesday, spinning on three turntables. Weekly drinks specials. 21+. Shattuck Bar and Grill, 2086 Allston @ shattuck, Berkeley. 510.845.7300 Come Unity - House, Techno, Ambient w/DJs Simon, Jeno, Garth, and Cosmic Jason (every other month). first Wednesday of the month. 10pm-4am, 21+, $8. 1015 Folsom, SF. 415.241.8815 Audio Alchemy - jazz, hip hop, drum & bass, latin, futuristic beats w/DJs Groove Merchant DJs, Tom Thump, Cool Chris. 7pm-, 21+. Liquid, 2925 16th St @ So.Van Ness, SF. qoöl - a pan-techno lounge w/DJs Spesh, Gil, Hyper D, top notch guests. Visuals by Hyperdelic.qoöl is now in it's 3rd year of celebrating dj culture at happy hour. each wednesday we gather to hear no less than 4 djs pump nothing but the qoöl est techno. in 1999, we hope to bring you more of the same awesome vibe, more superskilled spinners, more visual artistry, and more great tasting beer! lastly, qoöl will remain free in 1999 - w/ qoöl card 5pm-9pm, Free. 111 Minna St, SF. http://www.looq.com/qool Audible Colors - house, jungle, techno w/DJ guests weekly. 21+, $3. the Top, 424 Haight St, SF. 415.522.2343 Seance - Its a spiritual thang w/DJs local guests weekly, DJs Martel, Nabiel, Franky. Tarot readers, belly dancers, henna tattoo artists and authentic egyptian tapestries. Séance is an ethereal alternative with belly dancers, Tarot Card Readers and Henna tattoo artists. For dinner reservations call 771-3547. 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. Backflip, 601 Eddy @ Polk, SF. http://sfstation.com/clubs/seance.htm 415.281.0823 Faith - house w/DJs jeff blax, guests. 9pm-2am, 21+, $3. Agenda Cellar, 17 San Salvador St, San Jose. Wednesdays at Club Ecco - house, techno, trance w/DJs Danny (Resident), Ellen Ferrato, David Harness, Blackstone, Pete Avila. Wednesday is a fantastic gay club night at Club Ecco. All the great house hits hits in the San Pedro Room. Door s open for Happy Hour @ 5pm. 5pm-, 21+, $5. No cover before 9:30. Club Ecco, 87 North San Pedro, San Jose. 408.947.1667 Dubphonik - Mr. Brown. Come inside, cuddle up to a fire, a strong drink and a hapless passerby. Drink and dancing until two a.m. $5. Storyville, 1751 Fulton, SF. Thursday 4-Play - Tek-House Thursday Nights w/DJs Residents:, Jasonian (Funky Tekno Tribe), Mikkel (Plush), Fabulizz (Progress). 9pm-2am , 21+, $5. Hi - Fi Lounge. 415.527.6677 [5.20 - Jasonian, Fabulizz, Mikkel - Special b-day bash for Jasonian] GUANG! - Jimmy Chu, Cobie, Guest DJ appearances.. Dress code strictly enforced: No jeans, no tennis shoes, no sports attire. 21+. $8 at the door, $6 w/flyer or this email, Ladies in free b4 11:00. Club ERA, 525 Howard St., SF. 510.917.3030 the insight series - insight shows are about live electronic music that pushes the boundaries of the way we think about music w/DJs sean copper, eric hill. (*) EVERY THIRD THURSDAY of the month performances will start sometime shortly after 10pm. 9pm-, 21+. 111 minna st, SF. http://www.syncopated.net/emanate [5.20 - :\> o.s.t. - emanate / worm interface :/> kit clayton - cytrax] the Vanity party - BB Hayes (Resident) , guest djs:, Pete Avila, David Harness, ST John, Scott DC. Just off of highway 280. On the corner of Lawrence and Homestead. 9pm-2am, 21+. The BackBeat, 777 Lawrence Expressway, Santa Clara. 408.241.0177 Pitch - The underside of SF's techno/house music scene. Agressive, live musicians and dj's. w/DJs Crunch, YT, Dutch , Residents, Corey Black, Y.T., w/ special guests:, TUESday nites in March:, Freaky Chakra, Margorie & Stuart, DRC, big Nate, THURsday nites in April:, Cristina, Dutch, Ryme, Single Cell Orch., djCrunch.. ....Duck and weave.... Donation. CLUB SACRIFICE, 19th Street & South Van Ness, SF. Velvet Shop - house, jungle, hip hop, downtempo w/DJs M3, Mark Johns, guests. 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. Waves, SJ. 408.235.1556 408.235.1556 Kit Kat - house. 10pm-4am, 21+, $10. the End Up, 6th & Harrison, SF. The Cafe - house w/DJ Mathew Baker. 8pm-2am, 21+, Free. the Cafe, 2367 Market Street, SF. 415.861.3846 Passenger - excursions to global beats and rhythms 10p-2a, 21+, Free. the Skylark Lounge, 3089 16th St. @ Valencia, SF. Club Faith - Hip-Hop, House, Progressive. w/DJs Blackstone (Resident), Jay-R, Ruben Mancias (Resident), Weekly Guests. Boys/Girls, mostly bi/gay. If you have a closed mind this club will leave you behind! 9:30pm-3am, 18+, $10. Free with Flyer.. City Nights, 715 Harrison St., SF. [5.20 - Tracer] [5.27 - John Howard] [6.3 - DRC] [6.10 - Blackstone (a special 5 hour set)] Hi-Rise - The weekly thursday night house thing. w/DJs Seven (Resident), Sol (Resident), Peterbilt (Resident), Jin (Resident), Weekly Guests. Overloading your senses with deep underground house vibes at the coolest restaurant/bar in S.F. Free before 10pm. Dinners served until 10pm. Resurrecting the deep funk we call House. 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. Backflip, 601 Eddy, SF. 415.789.7377 [5.20 - Jonene (Stompy Hi-Fi) & Lance Desardi (Fairpark Recordings)] [5.27 - Taj (Deep Inside) & Sol] [6.3 - Mark E. Quark (Primal Records), Hector Moralez (Primal Records), Marty (xlr8r)] [6.10 - closed for private party] [6.24 - Sunburn/Hardkiss Record Release Party for "Handy Man Maurice"] [6.24 - Goura (Urban Development) & Jamie Means] Atmospheric Drum & Bass - Peregrine. 8pm-11pm, . Brain Wash Cafe, 1122 Folsom St, SF. Manifesto - soul, hip hop, dub, jungle & electro with w/DJs monkey, marlo, & weekly guests.. Come on out and eat a late dinner and stick around with us for drinks and more. 9:30pm-to close, Free. ChaChaCha's located at The Original McCarthy's Bar, 2327 Mission @19th Street, SOMA. Eklektic - jungle, drum n bass w/DJ Sage (jungle/drum 'n' bass Resident). Live: Weekly guests from the Bay area + the World. 9pm-2am, 21+, $12. 78 Minna, SF. 415.332.5800 x787 Double Trouble - Romanowski , Special Guests. Live funk and hip hop. Abstract Jazz. Come inside, cuddle up to a fire, a strong drink and a hapless passerby. Drink and dancing until two a.m. $5. Storyville, 1751 Fulton St, SF. Silky...smoothe and sublime - Come listen to how the ladys lay down the funky beats w/DJs Tracy (Sister), FabuLizz (Progress), Girl Friday (Uniting Souls). Silky, the all female cast of the SF underground, will be held at Il Pirata on the third Thursday of every month. (between Potrero and Utah) Buses to party: 33 Stanyan 9 San Bruno. Email Art and decorations by: Bahar meets Angela. 9pm-2am, $3. Il Pirata, 2007 16th St, SF. 415.626.2626 The Circus - Hip-hop, Disco, Club Classics, House w/DJs Paolo Vincenti (Resident), Romero X Pinoza (Resident), Special Guests Weekly. Thursday night -this thursday, January 28th, is THE grand opening. 9:30pm-, 18+. $5 with a college ID. La Vals, 2516 Durant Ave, Berkeley. 510.595.5597 FriscoGlide - Deep House spun by: w/DJs Laron, John Pickett, Dani, Robbie Hardkiss. Steven Tune and the original dues rock "we got the beats" beats for all kinds for the premillinnial mind. $3. The Top, 424 Haight St, SF. Definition - Quality house music by the world's leading djs - house, techno w/DJs Markus (Resident / Kickdrum), JP (Resident / Kickdrum), Kamahele (Undertow Records). Inside Sacramento's Newest Club 'The Garage'. $5. Club 1831, 1831 19th Street, Sacramento. 916.484.4614 Techno Thursdays - house, techno w/DJs Dj Matt in the Hatt, Weekly Guests. Spinning house and techno every Thursday @ the Q Cafe. 9pm-. Q Cafe, 529 Alma, Palo Alto. 650.322.3311 Friday Jade - Jayvi Velasco (Resident), Pablo (Resident), deMILO. Future Guest Djs include: Joe Lanzon, Norm Stradley, Mykl, T.G. Boy, Adolph, Patrick Wilson. 9pm -, 21+. 175 North San Pedro, San Jose. 408.298.9299 888.882.21XL Deeper - Resident dj's, Laron, Ra-Soul, Laird. 917 Folsom St, SF. 415.273.1170 [5.21 - Mouse (Joy/Liquid), Laird & Buck] [5.28 - Felix the Dog (Black Diamond/Psychofunkdiscodelic)] The Bassment - Bringing in Top SF and International Drum & Bass Talent every week.... w/DJ TBA.. 11pm-3am, $10. Get a Bassment Flyer, bring it and avoid the lines(via vip line) & get a $2 discount before 12am. In the Bassment of 1015 Folsom, 1015 Folsom, SF. LIFE - Life SUCKS, and then theres Friday! w/DJ Mark Farina. Cross streeet: 4th. VIP Lounge and Oyster Bar. 10pm-, 21+, $10. Big Heart City, 836 Mission. Empire - DJ Party Ben. Empire, SF's own big-beat boutique At the corner of Third. Dj Party Ben, best known for his party reports on subsonic, will spin the sounds of Fatboy Slim, Chemical Brothers, Roni Size Reprazent, Prodigy and more. empire will also occasionally feature guest appearances from world renowned DJs. 9pm-2am., . Manhattan Lounge, 699 Market Street, SF. Dance Spirit - Leslie Shill. every first and third Friday evenings in april. $10. Nautilus Health Club, 4th street, San Rafael. Nikita - house, techno w/DJs Simon (Resident), Jeno (Resident), Jerry Bonham (Resident), Kayar (Resident for the drum & bassment), Kaos (Resident for the drum & bassment), Flux (Resident for the drum & bassment), Rinse (Resident for the drum & bassment). Broadcast live on the net at www.1015.com. Downstairs, Sticks and Stones- provacateurs of Bass present Drum + Bass with Resident Dj Kayar 10pm-6am, 21+, $10. Free before 10:30 PM. 1015 Folsom St, SF. http://www.spundae.com 415.267.0568 [6.11 - legendary club from England RENAISSANCE - Dave Seamen (England), Anthony Pappa (england)] [6.18 - Paul van Dyk (Germany)] [6.25 - DJ Wada (Japan)] [7.16 - Andrew Weatherhal (England)] [7.23 - Scott Henry (Baltimore)] [7.30 - Derrick Carter (Chicago), Stacey Pullen (Detroit)] RoaM - an evening of sophisticated deep house... w/DJs Chad Mitchell, JP Soul, Dan Smith. 21+, Free. Liquid, 2925 16th St, SF. 415.289.6833 Stir-Fri-Day - happy-hour eclectic grooves served up by resident beat chefs w/DJs Jason Fluid, Shaolin, Maneesh the Twister, Plus weekly guests. 5pm-9pm, 21+. Minna St Gallery, 111 Minna St, SF. 0 415.974.1719 Bohemian Lounge - Intergalactic Funk Collages w/DJs Toph2000, rotating guests Pollywog, Manny Rosa, Charlotte the Baroness, Consuelo (Kevin). 9ish-2am, 21+, Free. the gorgeously restored McCarthy's Bar, 2327 Mission @ 19th, SF. 415.332.5800x211 (redwine) Melon - house w/DJs Dano, JZ, guests. First Friday of each month in the blue Room @ Nikita. PLEASE NOTE: MELON WILL RESUME, June 4th, 1999. 11pm-5am, 21+. 1015 Folsom, SF. http://www.redmelon.com 415.561.9215 Angel - house, tribal house, funk, modern rock, trance, progressive house, deep house, house, trip hob, soul, beats w/DJs Harry Who?, Rick Preston, Guests djs. 6 Artistic Rooms featuring Funk, Trip Hop, R&B, Soul Classics, beats Modern Rock, Trance, Progressive House, deep House and House. 9pm-2am, 21+, $10. Club Ecco, 87 North San Pedro, San Jose. http://www.clubecco.com/days.htm 408.947.1667 408.793.0328 The Davis Family Happy Hour - Local Dj Superstars, The Davis-get-down-funky-like-that-crew. Your favorite brews on tap. 3pm-7pm, 18+, Free. UCD Silo Pub, Hutchinson Drive, Davis. http://www.geocities.com/Hotsprings/Falls/2500 Launch - It'll give sump'din foer da yung;unz to doc. w/DJs Resident Djs:, BombRocker (Pure Tryb, WC), Phil-e-Cheez (Walnut Creek), Weekly guests. 18 & under (if you can pass for under 18). House, Trance, Breaks, Jungle. 7:30pm-11:00pm, 18+, Free. Walnut Creek Civic Center, Civic Park, Walnut Creek. _________________________________________________________________ Info Lines * Harmony Party Line - 408-486-9591 * Be-At Info Line - 415-626-4087. Usually has 5-10 listings, updated daily. * the Buzz-line, a global party network - 650.569.3300 * Clubline - 415.339.8686 * Frequency 8 Trance/Techno infoline - 415.541.5019 * The Groove Line - 415.331.1500 ext.4788 * Mixology-Music (north bay) - 707.526.1230 * Housewares Rave Line - 415.281.0125 * V.O.R.G. info - 415.750.3100 _________________________________________________________________ Radio/TV/Net Shows * Sunday-Sunday, 24 hours, 7 days a week, "Technostate" spins live with the dopest underground bay area dj's and work very hard at it! For more info see Technostate Website * Sunday 12noon - until we drop. "House Before The World". Live netcasts every Sunday at boyandhisdog.simplenet.com We broadcast deep house and garage for all who live and love it. :) Our resident Djs are bvdub and vincent kwok from San Francisco, and we feature guests as well. * Sunday, 2pm (((THUMP))) Radio presents Music for the New Millenium on 90.3fm KUSF. Global and local DJs/musicians playing trance, techno, DnB, house, and everything in between! Set-lists and interviews on http://www.thump-radio.com * Sunday Night at 8pm - "Threshold" on Raveworld.net, A audio show featuring world class drum 'n' bass and Jungle Djs. * Sunday night 11pm-2am - "The Dreaming/Innermind Show" w/DJ Miracle & Mr. Monchichi. House, Jungle, Trip-Hop, Ambient, Dub, Break-Beats & guest DJs. KSCU 103.3 (Santa Clara) * Sunday night midnight-1am - "Shortwave" - Electronic music in all of its guises. KALX, 90.7 FM (Berkeley) * Sunday night 10pm-2am - "Jazzadelica" w/ Rocky Rococo. Exploring the groove: from jazz, funk and soul to world beat and all types of underground clubs. KFJC 89.7 (Los Altos Hills) * Monday - Friday 10pm - 2am ''World House Groove'' on www.nwez.net -- a LIVE show dedicated to these sounds of the underground..... Dj Kjel is your host and dj for the show incorporating the music styles of house, acid jazz, trance, trip hop, drum & bass, ambient, and the collages of variations in between....... also, guest djs drop by to tunes and there's a live chatroom to talk w/ the djs themselves ........... Listen & watch World House Groove. * Monday night 9:30pm-midnight - "The Autobahn" w/dj Sutekh. Man and machine made music. KALX 90.7 (Berkeley) * Monday 12 til 4 - "Three*Sixty Radio". Beta Lounge. * Mondays at 11:00 PM PST - "Krom" on Raveworld.net Featuring World Class Djs like Dj Sneak and Doc Martin * Every Other Mon Nite, 10pm-Midnite: _*TeK-IndUced EuPHoriA*_ <<>> 90.3FM KDVS, Davis http://drxeno.cjb.net * Every Tuesday from 1 to 3pm - Trance, techno, breaks and jungle with "the underground with the secret asian man" - available on real audio @ ksfs.sfsu.edu Call ins, requests, and chances to win free gifts and passes to shows are always available, just stay tuned.... need more info? please email me at leopimp44@aol.com * Tuesday night 9pm-11:00pm - "Conscious Groove" - ambientdowntempojunglehousetrancedrumnbasstriphop spun by weekly guest DJs. Hosted by Stephanie aka Miss fat slice. Free Radio Berkeley on the internet - www.freeradio.org * Tuesday night 9pm-mid Pacific - "An Epiphany of Sound" hosted by J.C. The best in beats to satiate your inner child. Electronic dance, noise, spoken word, world music and more. Also available in RealAudio @ Epiphany of Sound Real Audio Also available: Humour List Archive Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of KZSU Radio or Stanford University. KZSU 90.1 (Stanford) * Wednesday 3am-6am - "Nothing Short of Total War" w/Fathertime. Electronic musik of all kinds, interspersed with spoken word poetry and other various readings. KSCU 101.3 (Santa Clara/San Jose) * radio M.U.T.A.N.T. - live experimental techno and dj's playing all styles of underground music. spaz * Wednesday night 9pm-11pm - free form music mix. KPFA 94.1 (Berkeley) * Wednesday night - "the Power of Sound" with Leslie. A 3 hour excursion into the best music from the regions where minds meet between the heavans and the earth. KAZU 90.3 (Monterey Bay Community Radio) * Thursday Mornings 12:30am - 3:00am (Wednesday nights) "The Metallic Blurp" - strictly drum and bass with nman and guests on KZSC, Santa Cruz 88.1FM * Thursday morning 5am-7am - A postmodern Garrison Keillor on crack, DJ Boomerang Fidget spins hilarious tales of backwoods meth labs, urban decay and redneck ravers; all with a social conscience. Also, ambient & techno. Free Radio Berkeley 104.1 (Berkeley) * Thursday Morning 6-9am - "GYNA" Resident Djs buttek and maytag in a live 3 hour mix format bringin the latest UK and stateside rekkids...Guest djs coming include DJ Poop (Sf) next week, also be on the lookout for spots by DJ SIFU, Hak, and Sipon. For requests, rewinds, or anything else, call (408) 554-5728 or email thegyna * "Back To Babylon" - House extravaganza with DJ Sneak and Doc Martin. see Raveworld.net * Thursday morning 10am-2pm - "The Further Adventures of Aardvark" - trip-hop to experimental to ambient to gabba etc, etc. KSJS 90.5 (San Jose). * Thursday 7pm-11pm - The Beta Lounge - Live on the net - electronic music and culture, worldwide. http://www.betalounge.com/ * Friday 12pm-4pm - weekly DJ netcasts. x-radio. * Friday 3pm-6pm - free form music mix. KUSF 90.3 (SF) (also available on Realaudio * Friday 9:30am-noon - Snappy the Aligator plays deep groove music that dips into cool electronic sounds, classic soul, reggae & more. KALX, 90.7 FM (Berkeley) * Fridays 8pm PST - Freak City on Raveworld.net the definitive show on dance cultures. Featuring artists like Paul Van Dyk, Jason Bentley, Air and best of 1998 (Carl Cox, Josh Wink, Moontribe, Spundae, Burning Man * Fridays 9pm-midnight - Andrew from Groove Merchant spins on KUSF 90.3 (SF) * Friday night/Saturday morning - midnight-noon. House/techno mix with Johnny K, Ozone & guests - KCSS 91.9 Central Valley (Turlock) * Friday night/Saturday morning - "Just Desserts" w/Mr.Goodwrench - 10pm-2am Jungle, Detroit, Techno, Acid House, whacked-out Dub, and noise KFJC 89.7 - Los Altos Hills * Friday night 1am-4am - "House Nation" w/"Anthems Mix", with residents and hosts david garcia, st john along with joey mazzola and dj doubt. David garcia and joey mazzola are resident djs at the SKYLOUNGE located at 525 harrison st. along with rotating djs bb hayes and demilo. 1am-4am, WILD 94.9 SF. * Friday night - Moondance. Ambient; 3am-7:30am, KUSF 90.3 SF. * Saturday morning - 12:30am-3am - "Under a Groove" with DJ CK featuring the deepest house grooves, downtempo cuts, and melodic drum and bass tunes. KZSC 88.1 FM, Santa Cruz. * Saturday afternoon - "Bus Stop" - music and talk w/guest DJs from SF and beyond. 2pm-3pm. KUSF 90.3 SF. * Saturday afternoon, 3-6pm - "The Living Dread" on kzsu stanford 90.1, hosted by Matt Duffy, kaydub of the jungle life crew, http://jungle-life.com * Saturday night 11pm - Flux Television, Viacom Channel 53 - Ambient, acid jazz and house music videos & interviews. (415) 281-3377. flux@flux.net * (every other) Saturday night 10p-12:30a - "1984" w/DJ Richtoffen. House, Trance and German rave. 90.1 (Chico) * Saturday night - "amp" 1am. MTV. * Saturday night - "Subsonic". 1am-6am, KITS 105.3 SF. * Saturday night - "House Nation" w/"Anthems Mix", Top 10s from guest DJs and "London Connection w/DJ Doubt". 2am-4am, WILD 94.9 SF. * Ambiance Magazine - 9:30p weds-sun PNC Cable 2 (Modesto & Oakdale), 9p fri & sat, marcus cable ch 9 (ceres & turlock). * Saturday night/Sunday morning - 10pm - 3am, Aaron Axelson, Live 105.3 _________________________________________________________________ For a search interface to the calendar, see the Late Train club section (http://www.latetrain.com/clubs/). _________________________________________________________________ Administrative Notes If anyone has info on any other events, send it to me! I can't possibly hope to get all the info every week. This info gets sent via email every Thursday. 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Karina Powers - karina@hyperreal.org From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 15:48:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7699 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 15:48:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 7690 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 15:48:45 -0000 Received: from f234.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.125) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 15:48:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 50629 invoked by uid 0); 15 May 1999 15:48:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990515154818.50628.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.188.198.183 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 15 May 1999 08:48:16 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.188.198.183] From: "Rani Skye Lefevre" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: nrr- a little inspiration Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 08:48:16 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > > > The Father's Eyes > > > > > > This teenager lived alone with his father, and the two of them had > > > a very special relationship. Even though the son was always on the > > > bench, > > > his father was always in the stands cheering. He never missed a game. > > > This young man was still the smallest of the class when he entered >high > > > school. But his father continued to encourage him but also made it >very > > > clear that he did not have to play football if he didn't want to. But > > > the > > > young man loved football and decided to hang in there. He was >determined > > > to > > > try his best at every practice, and perhaps he'd get to play when he > > > became a senior. > > > > > > All through high school he never missed a practice nor a > > > game, but remained a bench warmer all four years. His faithful father > > > was > > > always in the stands, always with words of encouragement for him. >When > > > the > > > young man went to college, he decided to try out for the football >team > > > as a > > > "walk-on." > > > > > > Everyone was sure he could never make the cut, but he > > > did. The coach admitted that he kept him on the roster because he >always > > > puts his heart and soul to every practice, and at the same time, > > > provided > > > the other members with the spirit and hustle they badly needed. > > > > > > The news that he had survived the cut thrilled him so much that he > > > rushed to > > > the nearest phone and called his father. His father shared his > > > excitement > > > and was sent season tickets for all the college games. This >persistent > > > young > > > athlete never missed practice during his four years at college, but >he > > > never got to play in the game. > > > > > > It was the end of his senior football season, and as he trotted onto >the > > > practice field shortly before the big play off game, the coach met >him > > > with > > > a telegram. The young man read the telegram and he became deathly > > > silent. > > > Swallowing hard, he mumbled to the coach, "My father died this >morning. > > > Is > > > it all right if I miss practice today?" > > > > > > The coach put his arm gently around his shoulder and said, "Take the > > > rest of > > > the week off, son. And don't even plan to come back to the game on > > > Saturday." Saturday arrived, and the game was not going well. In > > > the third quarter, when the team was ten points behind, a silent >young > > > man > > > quietly slipped into the empty locker room and put on his football >gear. > > > > > > > > > As he ran onto the sidelines, the coach and his players were >astounded > > > to > > > see their faithful teammate back so soon. "Coach, please let me play. > > > I've > > > just got to play today," said the young man. The coach pretended not >to > > > hear him. > > > > > > > > > There was no way he wanted his worst player in this close playoff > > > game. But the young man persisted, and finally feeling sorry for the > > > kid, the coach gave in. "All right," he said. "You can go in." Before > > > long, > > > the coach, the players and everyone in the stands could not believe > > > their eyes. > > > > > > This little unknown, who had never played before was doing > > > everything right. The opposing team could not stop him. He ran, he > > > passed, blocked and tackled like a star. His team began to triumph. >The > > > score was soon tied. In the closing seconds of the game, this kid > > > intercepted a pass and ran all the way for the winning touchdown. > > > > > > The fans broke loose. His teammates hoisted him onto their shoulders. > > > Such > > > cheering you've never heard! Finally, after the stands had emptied >and > > > the > > > team had showered and left the locker room, the coach noticed that >the > > > young > > > man was sitting quietly in the corner all alone. > > > > > > The coach came to him and said, "Kid, I can't believe it. You were > > > fantastic! Tell me what got into you? How did you do it?" He looked >at > > > the > > > coach, with tears in his eyes, and said, "Well, you knew my dad died, > > > but > > > did you know that my dad was blind?" The young man swallowed hard and > > > forced > > > a smile, "Dad came to all my games, but today was the first time he > > > could > > > see me play, and I wanted to show him I could do it!" > > > > > > > > > > > > SO- REMEMBER RIGHT NOW: > > > somebody is very proud of you. > > > somebody is thinking of you. > > > somebody is caring about you. > > > somebody misses you. > > > somebody wants to talk to you. > > > somebody wants to be with you. > > > somebody hopes you are not in trouble. > > > somebody is thankful for the support you have provided. > > > somebody wants to hold your hand. > > > somebody hopes everything turns out alright. > > > somebody wants you to be happy. > > > somebody want you to find him/her. > > > somebody wants to give you a gift. > > > somebody wants to hug you. > > > somebody thinks you ARE a gift. > > > somebody admires your strength. > > > somebody wants to protect you. > > > somebody can't wait to see you. > > > somebody loves you for who you are. > > > somebody treasures your spirit. > > > somebody is glad that you are their friend. > > > somebody want to get to know you better. > > > somebody wants to be near you. > > > somebody wants you to know they are there for you. > > > somebody would do anything for you. > > > somebody wants to share their dreams with you. > > > somebody is alive because of you. > > > somebody needs your support. > > > somebody will cry when they read this. > > > somebody needs you to have faith in them. > > > somebody trusts you. > > > somebody hears a song that reminds them of you. > > > > > > > > > SOMEBODY NEEDS YOU TO SEND THIS TO THEM > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 16:04:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14424 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 16:04:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 14415 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 16:04:46 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 16:04:46 -0000 Received: from [192.68.228.2] (HELO mattdntbusapp) by mogwaicom.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 2.9b5) with SMTP id 641446; Sat, 15 May 1999 09:06:05 -0700 Message-ID: <011101be9eec$af9f8490$162b0a0a@efi.com> From: To: , References: <4444b3da.246c5342@aol.com> Subject: Re: Permit Info Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 09:05:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I would no suggest SF, Not worth the trouble and expense, not to mention your event has to close down at 4:00am. Oakland is much better for rave type event. Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 9:09 AM Subject: Permit Info > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > Hello: > > Was wondering if anyone could break down the details of one time permits in > SF for me. Id really appreciate it. Thanks in advance. Much peace and > happiness, M > > Groove On > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 16:13:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16771 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 16:13:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 16763 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 16:13:37 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 16:13:37 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (3700) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id dQHPa16141; Sat, 15 May 1999 12:12:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <8be28227.246ef6d2@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 12:12:02 EDT Subject: Re: Quick review of Etheral. To: maxmcc@csua.berkeley.edu, nuku@sfsu.edu CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/15/99 8:56:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU writes: << Samoa posse: hahahahahah >> boh boh boh the half samoan possee (thats me) is in effect. big up to the official Ma'te'ussee' on the planet my ninja MC Duh in full efect last nite. full review coming soon... DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 16:22:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24060 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 16:22:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 24051 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 16:22:52 -0000 Received: from web803.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.63) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 16:22:52 -0000 Message-ID: <19990515162835.26664.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.163.205.67] by web803.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 15 May 1999 09:28:35 PDT Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 09:28:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: Quick review of Etheral. To: Max McCauley , Nuku Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HEH, I had such a great freakin time last night, tha crowd had it going on...I finally met Nuku, Leslie,Megatron and several other lovelies, which highlighted my night. Saw some lovelies I already know, got to share in the drunkeness of the place, Andy, Mook, Steph, Jeremy, Max,Matt, Ben, John,stickman glad to see y'all whoopin it up. WHAT DO YO MEAN ITS 2AM!!!!! uhhh I hate that feeling, oh well. Science, you revived me, i havent heard a full set of yours in TOO LONG! Its time for the cages, we dont need no booty house to climb the cages, freakin to jungle,thats what it all about. If i was a stripper id dance to D&B, plain and simple. Too bad when i got back to my car it was full-o-sluts, thats ok, sluts can be good sometimes...umm yeah. I cant believe how many people I met last night, it was awesome, everybody there Ruled! Why am i awake at 9am???? DOnt ask. HEH (my new favorite phrase), Jb Im off to watch a bunch of hot skaters representin for our boy Tim, RIP. --- Max McCauley wrote: > > > On Sat, 15 May 1999, Nuku wrote: > > > > I think thought one of the best parts was > being with my sfr family > > again. All ma stress suddenly kinda dropped away > and I was hanging with > > shane, randy, max, steph, mook, jeremy, o wait on > a side note..even Mr Nico > > was shaking his arse to the jungle set and I > could've sworn that boy to be a > > trance devotee for life. but much love goes out to > the old family even those > > I missed..er micheal the stickman. > > Haven't you heard the truth? Nico is a DUHvotee. > If you don't know get > to know! Sweet seventeen, neva been kissed, yes tha > man, Nico. > > > And ma love goes out to the new ppl I have > meet this nite. AndyW > > (run alcholic run, so freaking priceless), leslie, > jessica, Bigm00 and may I > > say again you did a lovely job and ooh he gave me > a kiss on the cheek > > *swoon* j/k > > Yes yes. Everything I do on the mic I do because of > "Ha." Last call for > al ca heezy hall, betta run alkie alkie run andy > RUN. > > > Oh one of the best things I heard was from > my co-worker. I asked her > > while we were in the jungle room listening to > Sciences set, "Do you like > > this?" and she replied "I never heard this stuff > before but I love it!" > > Thats just gotta make you smile. > > Yes we love Jaqueline, please bring her everywhere > as though she was your > ID, ed-e. > > Here is my quick review all talking shit aside. > Ryan, it's your birthday, > let's have a surfer on acid. They are much better > shots than "dirty > foreskins." > > Sra. Ayers, you are the original soul rebel. > > Jess ica, big up you for being the slut chauffeur. > > Mechasoul posse....two words: big tings. > > Markis and Naomi, can't stop, the body rock. > > Harmony crew: "you can do it." > > those chicks that aren't on the list: boy are you > fine. You make > everything...groovy. > > Samoa posse: hahahahahah > > Bartenders: shots that cost more than 5 bux a piece > should come in shot > glasses, not shot plastics. > > what else. > > Science: you are cordially invited to play six years > worth of breakbeat > music every time. you rinsed it. the whole 12er of > it. > > Andy W: run! bar's closing! > > Stickman: the bass II dark! > > Big M: nice1. we got your back man. imagine what > 100% satisfied people > would mean if there was more than two weeks to tell > people about it! > > Shidalou: do you like the taste of german imported > lips? > > what else...hmmm. > > This is wicked this is like senior quotes bizzness! > > Jeremy: You will make a great frat boy when you > learn that warm gin, and > not tequila is how to haze properly. > > All the girls I've loved before: thanks but no > thanks, I can't believe my > only real girlfriend ever is dating Julio Iglesias's > son now. Fuck that > shit. I need loot. I am flying to South America to > regulate. Maybe if I > had sent flowers... > > OK. 5 to 6. Time to strap the blades on, and skate > to 7-11. Yes yes, > it's about that time, to bring forth, the liquor and > the rhyme. > > 10-4, > duh, > max > > see you at First Light for sure, and The Formula in > spirit. BOH BOH BOH! > > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 16:59:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5026 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 16:59:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 5008 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 16:59:01 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 16:59:01 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EAN4HSNH; Sat, 15 May 1999 12:58:35 EDT To: resourcerecords@yahoo.com Cc: rayvonie@ix.netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 09:50:36 -0700 Subject: Re: Re:Sideburn Slims not a DJ! Message-ID: <19990515.100253.-6619.0.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-5,7-15 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah cause your tape is pretty damn good. If I threw parties I'd book you. Thanks again, and when you make another tape, send one to me! The girls at my work bug me to bring your tape in all the time. Peace, Theresa On Thu, 13 May 1999 21:09:24 -0700 (PDT) tHe AcCoMplICe writes: >Vlad.... > > > >P.S. Maybe you should listen a little harder to the >tapes you get... >Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 17:46:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22657 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 17:46:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 22644 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 17:46:37 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 17:46:37 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-133.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.133]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA02153 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 10:46:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990515162122.00697618@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 11:21:22 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: Test. Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just wanted to see if my emails are getting to the list..or not. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 19:12:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21344 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 19:12:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 21335 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 19:12:38 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 19:12:38 -0000 Message-ID: <19990515190602.12071.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.132.214.17] by attach1; Sat, 15 May 1999 12:06:02 PDT Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 12:06:02 -0700 (PDT) From: micron Subject: Re: Quick review of Etheral. To: Jess ica , Max McCauley , Nuku Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk damn....looks like i played in the wrong room....i shoulda busted out my jungle rekkids.....oh wait...i don't have any....aw shiiiiitee. last night was interesting.....i don't think i'll ever let go of the image of andy going nuts in the go-go cage...DAMN. let's just say that the alcohol was flowing loosely last night and that everyone was in full effect...... that party would have went off had there been more people, though i do have to say that the few that were there pretty much rawked it. and finally......i think that i'd hate to be andy or li this morning. :) micron ---Jess ica wrote: > > HEH, > > I had such a great freakin time last night, tha crowd had it going > on...I finally met Nuku, Leslie,Megatron and several other lovelies, > which highlighted my night. > Saw some lovelies I already know, got to share in the drunkeness of the > place, Andy, Mook, Steph, Jeremy, Max,Matt, Ben, John,stickman glad to > see y'all whoopin it up. WHAT DO YO MEAN ITS 2AM!!!!! uhhh I hate > that feeling, oh well. > Science, you revived me, i havent heard a full set of yours in TOO > LONG! Its time for the cages, we dont need no booty house to climb the > cages, freakin to jungle,thats what it all about. If i was a stripper > id dance to D&B, plain and simple. > Too bad when i got back to my car it was full-o-sluts, thats ok, sluts > can be good sometimes...umm yeah. > I cant believe how many people I met last night, it was awesome, > everybody there Ruled! Why am i awake at 9am???? DOnt ask. > > HEH (my new favorite phrase), > > Jb > > Im off to watch a bunch of hot skaters representin for our boy Tim, > RIP. > --- Max McCauley wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, 15 May 1999, Nuku wrote: > > > > > > I think thought one of the best parts was > > being with my sfr family > > > again. All ma stress suddenly kinda dropped away > > and I was hanging with > > > shane, randy, max, steph, mook, jeremy, o wait on > > a side note..even Mr Nico > > > was shaking his arse to the jungle set and I > > could've sworn that boy to be a > > > trance devotee for life. but much love goes out to > > the old family even those > > > I missed..er micheal the stickman. > > > > Haven't you heard the truth? Nico is a DUHvotee. > > If you don't know get > > to know! Sweet seventeen, neva been kissed, yes tha > > man, Nico. > > > > > And ma love goes out to the new ppl I have > > meet this nite. AndyW > > > (run alcholic run, so freaking priceless), leslie, > > jessica, Bigm00 and may I > > > say again you did a lovely job and ooh he gave me > > a kiss on the cheek > > > *swoon* j/k > > > > Yes yes. Everything I do on the mic I do because of > > "Ha." Last call for > > al ca heezy hall, betta run alkie alkie run andy > > RUN. > > > > > Oh one of the best things I heard was from > > my co-worker. I asked her > > > while we were in the jungle room listening to > > Sciences set, "Do you like > > > this?" and she replied "I never heard this stuff > > before but I love it!" > > > Thats just gotta make you smile. > > > > Yes we love Jaqueline, please bring her everywhere > > as though she was your > > ID, ed-e. > > > > Here is my quick review all talking shit aside. > > Ryan, it's your birthday, > > let's have a surfer on acid. They are much better > > shots than "dirty > > foreskins." > > > > Sra. Ayers, you are the original soul rebel. > > > > Jess ica, big up you for being the slut chauffeur. > > > > Mechasoul posse....two words: big tings. > > > > Markis and Naomi, can't stop, the body rock. > > > > Harmony crew: "you can do it." > > > > those chicks that aren't on the list: boy are you > > fine. You make > > everything...groovy. > > > > Samoa posse: hahahahahah > > > > Bartenders: shots that cost more than 5 bux a piece > > should come in shot > > glasses, not shot plastics. > > > > what else. > > > > Science: you are cordially invited to play six years > > worth of breakbeat > > music every time. you rinsed it. the whole 12er of > > it. > > > > Andy W: run! bar's closing! > > > > Stickman: the bass II dark! > > > > Big M: nice1. we got your back man. imagine what > > 100% satisfied people > > would mean if there was more than two weeks to tell > > people about it! > > > > Shidalou: do you like the taste of german imported > > lips? > > > > what else...hmmm. > > > > This is wicked this is like senior quotes bizzness! > > > > Jeremy: You will make a great frat boy when you > > learn that warm gin, and > > not tequila is how to haze properly. > > > > All the girls I've loved before: thanks but no > > thanks, I can't believe my > > only real girlfriend ever is dating Julio Iglesias's > > son now. Fuck that > > shit. I need loot. I am flying to South America to > > regulate. Maybe if I > > had sent flowers... > > > > OK. 5 to 6. Time to strap the blades on, and skate > > to 7-11. Yes yes, > > it's about that time, to bring forth, the liquor and > > the rhyme. > > > > 10-4, > > duh, > > max > > > > see you at First Light for sure, and The Formula in > > spirit. BOH BOH BOH! > > > > > > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 19:30:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26449 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 19:30:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 26441 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 19:30:45 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 19:30:45 -0000 Received: from BodhiInSF@aol.com (14400) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vSXCa03059; Sat, 15 May 1999 15:30:02 -0400 (EDT) From: BodhiInSF@aol.com Message-ID: <97570fa2.246f253a@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 15:30:02 EDT Subject: The death of plur***Not If You or I Are Around! To: Laalkuchaa@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk . Yes, there are many who do not either know what PLUR means, or if they do, do not practice it. Like religion; There are millions of Buddhist, a religion of non violence and humanitarianism. Yet, some of the most Buddhist countries have the most repressive regimes, like Burma. Why is that? because you have many who grow up Buddhist, but do nor understand it or practice it. They depend on the monks to practice dharma for them. Like here in the US. We are the most religious country in the world. More people, per capita go to church, and call themselves "born again," than any Christian country. Yet, we are the most violent people on the face of the earth! In the rave scene, hypocrisy exhists as fluently as in any other place. You will never find a place where everyone practices what they preach. If you do let me know, I want to be there! What IM getting here is, don't look at other's behavior so much, look at yours. YOU practice PLUR, don't depend on someone else to do it. If you don't practice PLUR, then the scene will be that much less positive. And that goes for all those who still believe and practice PLUR as best as we can. Keep on practicing and believing in PLUR. Do it for you, for me, and all those who do not know what it means or practice it. We need examples and teachers. You be one, I be one, and others out there in the scene who are fellow believers, who knows what's going down with PLUR, be one too. PLUR is not defiantly not dead if there are people like you, me and others who know it, believe it and practice it. Not perfectly, but as best as we can! I know there are many if educated and shown by example, will turn to the PLUR way. What do you think about think about that? =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 19:44:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 433 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 19:44:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 423 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 19:44:40 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 19:44:40 -0000 Received: from BGChris420@aol.com (7816) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vZUCa02608 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 15:44:08 -0400 (EDT) From: BGChris420@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 15:44:08 EDT Subject: NRR: My altar -- "Everybody's Free" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok you guys, I know you all might have already heard this song before and if you haven't look for. All I can say is this is probably the best advice I have heard in my entire life. This is my altar. This is my Bible. Baz Lurmann's "Everybody's Free (To Wear Sunscreen)" Ladies and gentlemen of the class of '99... wear sunscreen... If I could offer you only one tip for the future, sunscreen would be it. The long-term benefits of sunscreen have been proved by scientists, whereas the rest of my advice has no basis more reliable than my own meandering experience. I will dispense this advice now. Enjoy the power and beauty of your youth. Oh, never mind. You will not understand the power and beauty of your youth until they've faded. But trust me, in 20 years, you'll look back at photos of yourself and recall in a way you can't grasp now how much possibility lay before you and how fabulous you really looked. You are not as fat as you imagine. Don't worry about the future. Or worry, but know that worrying is as effective as trying to solve an algebra equation by chewing bubble gum. The real troubles in your life are apt to be things that never crossed your worried mind, the kind that blindside you at 4 p.m. on some idle Tuesday. Do one thing every day that scares you. Sing. Don't be reckless with other people's hearts. Don't put up with people who are reckless with yours. Floss. Don't waste your time on jealousy. Sometimes you're ahead, sometimes you're behind. The race is long and, in the end, it's only with yourself. Remember compliments you receive. Forget the insults. If you succeed in doing this, tell me how. Keep your old love letters. Throw away your old bank statements. Stretch. Don't feel guilty if you don't know what you want to do with your life. The most interesting people I know didn't know at 22 what they wanted to do with their lives. Some of the most interesting 40-year-olds I know still don't. Get plenty of calcium. Be kind to your knees. You'll miss them when they're gone. Maybe you'll marry, maybe you won't. Maybe you'll have children, maybe you won't. Maybe you'll divorce at 40, maybe you'll dance the funky chicken on your 75th wedding anniversary. Whatever you do, don't congratulate yourself too much, or berate yourself either. Your choices are half chance. So are everybody else's. Enjoy your body. Use it every way you can. Don't be afraid of it or of what other people think of it. It's the greatest instrument you'll ever own. Dance, even if you have nowhere to do it but your living room. Read the directions, even if you don't follow them. Do not read beauty magazines. They will only make you feel ugly. Get to know your parents. You never know when they'll be gone for good. Be nice to your siblings. They're your best link to your past and the people most likely to stick with you in the future. Understand that friends come and go, but with a precious few you should hold on. Work hard to bridge the gaps in geography and lifestyle, because the older you get, the more you need the people who knew you when you were young. Live in New York City once, but leave before it makes you hard. Live in Northern California once, but leave before it makes you soft. Travel. Accept certain inalienable truths: Prices will rise. Politicians will philander. You, too, will get old. And when you do, you'll fantasize that when you were young, prices were reasonable, politicians were noble and children respected their elders. Respect your elders. Don't expect anyone else to support you. Maybe you have a trust fund. Maybe you'll have a wealthy spouse. But you never know when either one might run out. Don't mess too much with your hair or by the time you're 40 it will look 85. Be careful whose advice you buy, but be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia. Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth. But trust me on the sunscreen. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 19:47:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1403 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 19:47:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 1376 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 19:47:18 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 19:47:18 -0000 Received: from BodhiInSF@aol.com (14400) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vXOKa04194 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 15:46:40 -0400 (EDT) From: BodhiInSF@aol.com Message-ID: <10c48455.246f291f@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 15:46:39 EDT Subject: The death of plur*Not If You Or I Are Around!(CorrectedVersion) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OPPS! sorry about the gramical errors in the last post. Wrote it in a rush. Yes, there are many who do not either know what PLUR means, or if they do, do not practice it. Like religion; There are millions of Buddhist, a religion of non violence and humanitarianism. Yet, some of the most Buddhist countries have the most repressive regimes, like Burma. Why is that? because you have many who grow up Buddhist, but do nor understand it or practice it. They depend on the monks to practice dharma for them. Like here in the US. We are the most religious country in the world. More people, per capita go to church, and call themselves "born again," than any Christian country. Yet, we are the most violent people on the face of the earth! In the rave scene, hypocrisy exhists as fluently as in any other place. You will never find a place where everyone practices what they preach. If you do let me know, I want to be there! What IM getting here is, don't look at other's behavior so much, look at yours. YOU practice PLUR, don't depend on someone else to do it. If you don't practice PLUR, then the scene will be that much less positive for it. And that goes for all those who still believe and practice PLUR as best as they can. Keep on practicing and believing in PLUR. Do it for you, for me, and all those who do not know what it means or practice it. We need examples and teachers. You be one, I be one, and others out there in the scene who are fellow believers, who knows what's going down with PLUR, be one too. PLUR is defiantly not dead if there are people like you, me and others who know it, believe it and practice it. Not perfectly, but as best as we can! I know there are many if educated and shown by example, will turn to the PLUR way. What do you think about that? =) ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 20:27:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16508 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 20:27:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 16499 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 20:27:32 -0000 Received: from sos87.mry.redshift.com (HELO neptune.log) (209.54.206.87) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 20:27:32 -0000 Received: from pm5-155.mry.redshift.com by neptune.log with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id KXM5X41C; Sat, 15 May 1999 13:27:15 -0700 Message-ID: <00ac01be9f11$0b9001c0$24c7cccf@soscom.com> From: "Susan L. Gwartney" To: "SFRaves" Subject: thank you - (was insecurity sucks) & reviews Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 13:25:13 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A6_01BE9ED6.5CFFA3C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A6_01BE9ED6.5CFFA3C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks everyone for the positive reinforcement. =3D) *sniffle* = *sniffle* i went to this interesting networking conference one time where the = facilitator asked this lady in the audience what she would say if she = was told she had green hair. the lady (who, by the way, did not have = green hair) blinked for a second, and she said, "no i don't!" =20 then the facilitator asked what she would say if she was told she was a = selfish ugly bitch. the same woman thought for a minute and had no = reply. the point of this demonstration is that when someone tells us = something we know isn't true, we deny it with conviction and confidence. = but when someone tells us something that we've heard all our lives = (perhaps, from our parents, from our spouses?)... we have a harder time = distinguishing whether it's true or not... we start to wonder, we start = to believe it. all the negative conditioning we get from the media and from our peers, = particularly while we are growing up, is so powerful that some people = sadly believe that stuff for their entire lives. they go a lifetime = never hearing someone tell them that they are beautiful or smart or = funny. it's really sad. the especially sad part is that sometimes = there might be someone who actually thinks those things about the person = and never tells him or her, maybe afraid of how the other person will = react. (why is it that only at raves can someone tell you you're = beautiful without it necessarily being a come-on!) if you love someone, tell them. if you think they're beautiful, tell = them. one of my girlfriends called me up one time just to tell me she = was glad i was her friend. swear to god i was bawling my eyes out after = i hung up the phone.. it was so sweet a gesture and people don't do that = enough any more. okay enough of all the huggy mushy stuff, on to a brief review! chris and i popped in on ethereal briefly, long enough to hear some = kick-ass music and to marvel at stefan's amazing lighting design and = visuals. (sorry stefan we looked for you and couldn't find you!) we = then mosied out to berkeley to check out redroom. what a great = location! every area & room was fabulously decorated. the music was = fantastic and there was a mellow positive vibe. thank you jonas & = daynah for inviting us, and also for collaborating with us on ticket = sales. =20 have a safe weekend all, =3D)sooz p.s. jessica this font's for you! ;) exercisethepowerofchoice http://liberty.ispree.net ------=_NextPart_000_00A6_01BE9ED6.5CFFA3C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
thanks everyone for the positive = reinforcement. =20 =3D)  *sniffle* *sniffle*
 
i went to this interesting networking = conference one=20 time where the facilitator asked this lady in the audience what she = would say if=20 she was told she had green hair.  the lady (who, by the way, did = not have=20 green hair) blinked for a second, and she said, "no i don't!" =20
 
then the facilitator asked what she would say if = she was=20 told she was a selfish ugly bitch.  the same woman thought for a = minute and=20 had no reply.  the point of this demonstration is that when someone = tells=20 us something we know isn't true, we deny it with conviction and=20 confidence.  but when someone tells us something that we've heard = all our=20 lives (perhaps, from our parents, from our spouses?)... we have a harder = time=20 distinguishing whether it's true or not... we start to wonder, we start = to=20 believe it.
 
all the negative conditioning we get from the = media and=20 from our peers, particularly while we are growing up, is so powerful = that some=20 people sadly believe that stuff for their entire lives.   = they go=20 a lifetime never hearing someone tell them that they are beautiful or = smart or=20 funny.  it's really sad.  the especially sad part is that = sometimes=20 there might be someone who actually thinks those things about the = person=20 and never tells him or her, maybe afraid of how the other person will=20 react.  (why is it that only at raves can someone tell you you're = beautiful=20 without it necessarily being a come-on!)
 
if you love someone, tell them.  if you = think they're=20 beautiful, tell them.  one of my girlfriends called me up one time = just to=20 tell me she was glad i was her friend.  swear to god i was bawling = my eyes=20 out after i hung up the phone.. it was so sweet a gesture and people = don't do=20 that enough any more.
 
okay enough of all the huggy mushy stuff, on to = a brief=20 review!
 
chris and i popped in on ethereal briefly, long = enough to=20 hear some kick-ass music and to marvel at stefan's amazing lighting = design and=20 visuals.  (sorry stefan we looked for you and couldn't = find you!) we=20 then mosied out to berkeley to check out redroom.  what a great=20 location!  every area & room was fabulously decorated.  = the=20 music was fantastic and there was a mellow positive vibe.  = thank you=20 jonas & daynah for inviting us, and also for collaborating with us = on ticket=20 sales.  
 
have a safe weekend all,
=3D)sooz
 
 
p.s. jessica this font's for you! = ;)
 
 
exercisethepowerofchoice
http://liberty.ispree.net
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_00A6_01BE9ED6.5CFFA3C0-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 22:03:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19678 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 22:03:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 19670 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 22:03:38 -0000 Received: from mail10.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.138) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 22:03:38 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (ABD687BE.ipt.aol.com [171.214.135.190]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20033; Sat, 15 May 1999 15:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <373DEF8C.A5B9465C@geocities.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 15:05:00 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pogobee@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: do you have an alter? References: <8648b126.246cdb44@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have vinyl teletubby figurines on my alter, a plant that is named Darci, candles, and some photos of friends. =Paul*E*Wog Pogobee@aol.com wrote: > > the past couple of day i've been visiting my friend's at their houses. i've > noticed that a lot of them have little alters. most of them have candles, > incense, crystals, flowers or fruit, and other personal items. > > i was just wondering... what types of items do you guys have on your alters? > > my alter is built with many items that represent someone very close to me. > one item on my alter is a very small fish bowl filled with tiny origami stars > my best friend gave me for Christmas. every party i go to i take a few of > these stars and give them to people who've made my night special. > > -- pogo - the evercurious From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 22:04:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20379 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 22:04:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 20371 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 22:04:17 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd104.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.168) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 22:04:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 74289 invoked by uid 0); 15 May 1999 22:03:50 -0000 Message-ID: <19990515220350.74288.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.72.70.252 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 15 May 1999 15:03:50 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.72.70.252] From: "David Ramirez" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: tonight.. formula - 1st light.. Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 15:03:50 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk are rinse & flux gonna be at both?????.. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 22:07:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22233 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 22:07:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 22225 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 22:07:55 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 22:07:55 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (586) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vYKa005050; Sat, 15 May 1999 18:06:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <32c89dc7.246f49f5@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 18:06:45 EDT Subject: NRR:paging nman To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk nman... ....if u are out there....holla if u hear me!!!!!!!!! yeah i forgot your email addy so mail me back. its about friday nite. DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 22:15:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24931 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 22:15:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 24915 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 22:15:16 -0000 Received: from mail2.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 22:15:16 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (ABD687BE.ipt.aol.com [171.214.135.190]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13382; Sat, 15 May 1999 15:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <373DF242.5C078C4D@geocities.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 15:16:34 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: n i c o CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: a few words from an ugly raver References: <003c01be9e47$e19bbfe0$16d24182@invitro.lightspeed.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Haven't you seen these people in the daylight??!?!?!?!? They are all just as ugly as we are... They all have bad skin, buck teeth, nappy hair, and can't dress worth shit. They all be shot or something. I think the ugliest bitch of them all is that hoe Rafie. He is a little stinker. We should hang him by his thumbs and beat him with a pinata bat. Damn punk. No one is ugly and no on is beautiful. Everyone is equal... =Paul*E*Wog n i c o wrote: > > >HY AM I SOOOOOO UGLY!!!! > > > >the insecure poser > >bboibreks > > d00d, I know what you mean. It took me a while to get comfortable because I > always felt myself being surrounded by all these incredibly beautiful > people. But you know what? I saw how little those kids dance and after > about 5 minutes I didn't feel jealous at all. : ) > > ((( l0ve always ))) > > Nico > > > > >P.S > >I hate good looking people, especially the ones that can pimp a kangol, > dress > >well, have nice bodies, good postures, break tha beats, UGH!!!! > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 22:23:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28537 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 22:23:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 28526 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 22:23:47 -0000 Received: from mail2.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 22:23:47 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (ABD687BE.ipt.aol.com [171.214.135.190]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17350 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 15:22:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <373DF44B.A1BA0B5@geocities.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 15:25:16 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: Use of Psychiatric Drugs Protested Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------5F9990878195DA450E355436" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------5F9990878195DA450E355436 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------5F9990878195DA450E355436 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28787 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 14:39:19 -0700 (PDT) From: PaulxExWog@aol.com Received: from PaulxExWog@aol.com (231) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 7SRRa02609 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 17:41:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <965e021f.246f4409@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 17:41:29 EDT Subject: Fwd: Use of Psychiatric Drugs Protested To: goodvibe@geocities.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_965e021f.246f4409_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 --part1_965e021f.246f4409_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_965e021f.246f4409_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: AOLNews@aol.com From: AOLNews@aol.com Full-name: AOL News Message-ID: <965e021f.246f39d0@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 16:57:52 EDT Subject: Use of Psychiatric Drugs Protested MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) To: undisclosed-recipients:; Use of Psychiatric Drugs Protested .c The Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) -- About 1,000 protesters, dressed in black and many carrying black balloons, picketed a convention of psychiatrists Saturday to demand they stop prescribing mind-altering medications to young people. Such medicine leads to youth violence, said three protest leaders, actresses Kirstie Alley and Juliette Lewis and singer Lisa Marie Presley. ``They're making drug addicts out of our children,'' said Alley, best known for her roles on the TV shows ``Cheers'' and ``Veronica's Closet.'' ``It's barbaric, and it's being promoted by psychiatrists.'' The demonstration, organized by the Church of Scientology's Citizens Commission on Human Rights, targeted the annual meeting of the American Psychiatric Association in downtown Washington. As they marched around the Washington Convention Center, the demonstrators chanted: ``Don't drug our kids. Don't shock our kids. Just leave our kids alone.'' All three of the celebrity demonstrators are Scientologists. The church's founder, L. Ron Hubbard, strongly opposed psychiatry. AP-NY-05-15-99 1658EDT Copyright 1998 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without prior written authority of The Associated Press. To edit your profile, go to keyword NewsProfiles . For all of today's news, go to keyword News. --part1_965e021f.246f4409_boundary-- --------------5F9990878195DA450E355436-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 22:42:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4473 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 22:42:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 4465 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 22:42:31 -0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 22:42:31 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.220] (libya-220.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.220]) by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA23272 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 15:42:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: echo@mail.wenet.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:42:53 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: je Subject: Paging ... Paging ... Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Trying to reach Ethan of Friends & Family Got info? j. :) MAZE: TRIBAL TECHNO TRANCE life is a maze/life is amazing 415.263.6750 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 15 23:12:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14065 invoked by uid 6000); 15 May 1999 23:12:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 14042 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 23:12:03 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 23:12:03 -0000 Received: from Markis1012@aol.com (8011) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iYCCa04196; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:11:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Markis1012@aol.com Message-ID: <3a11e5dd.246f5915@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 19:11:17 EDT Subject: tonight.. formula - 1st light.. To: raver_hp@hotmail.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah they are going to be at both parties tonight. They are gonna spin at The Formula from 11p.m. to 1a.m.. Then they are gonna spin at First Light from I THINK 2:30 to 4:30. SOme night huh?!?!? Well I hope to see some of you at THE FORMULA 2-nite. The rest of you stay safe and have fun at First Light or whatever party you go to. SEE ya!!! markis(junglejunkie) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 00:22:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3207 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 00:22:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 3193 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 00:22:34 -0000 Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.12) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 00:22:34 -0000 Received: from earthlink.net (1Cust244.tnt22.sfo3.da.uu.net [208.254.230.244]) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA26344; Sat, 15 May 1999 17:22:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <373E1D6E.D3AA2A64@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 17:20:46 -0800 From: Chris Gill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: micron CC: Jess ica , Max McCauley , Nuku , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Quick review of Etheral. References: <19990515190602.12071.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------CDAE40B6FB2564666CF1F36B" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --------------CDAE40B6FB2564666CF1F36B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just moved here from Manhattan and Ethereal was a great intro to SF (some friends told me that 1015 was pretty good, but on the night I went there was too much of a pick-up scene which ruined the vibe for me). I wanted to add that Thorfio's set was a great "appetizer" to Science's heavy "main course" and throw props to Soul Kid for his incredibly funky set. Science is as good (if not better) than the best NYC jungle DJs, so consider yourself extremely lucky and blessed. I had a blast rollin' to his set. And props to the crowd who rocked the house (what you lacked in numbers you made up for in spirit--and at least there was plenty of room to gruv =D ). And to those bwoys who were breakin, I hope your heads feel okay today! Even though I'm a "stranger" you made me feel more accepted here than I've felt in NYC and London. I don't know what the scene here used to be like, but the attitude was a lot like what I remember of the warehouse raves in L.A. I went to back in 89-90 (sheeeit, now I've dated myself), so I don't really get what all the bitching is about (hopefully I won't find out). But no matter how nice you are, you'll never get me in that cage! I was the "old fuk" in the green cap, white shirt and black warmup pants--glasses, blonde. I might be at First Light tonight so if you remember me, come up and say hi. Chris micron wrote: > damn....looks like i played in the wrong room....i shoulda busted out > my jungle rekkids.....oh wait...i don't have any....aw shiiiiitee. > > last night was interesting.....i don't think i'll ever let go of the > image of andy going nuts in the go-go cage...DAMN. let's just say that > the alcohol was flowing loosely last night and that everyone was in > full effect...... > > that party would have went off had there been more people, though i do > have to say that the few that were there pretty much rawked it. > > and finally......i think that i'd hate to be andy or li this morning. > > :) > micron > > ---Jess ica wrote: > > > > HEH, > > > > I had such a great freakin time last night, tha crowd had it going > > on...I finally met Nuku, Leslie,Megatron and several other lovelies, > > which highlighted my night. > > Saw some lovelies I already know, got to share in the drunkeness of > the > > place, Andy, Mook, Steph, Jeremy, Max,Matt, Ben, John,stickman glad to > > see y'all whoopin it up. WHAT DO YO MEAN ITS 2AM!!!!! uhhh I hate > > that feeling, oh well. > > Science, you revived me, i havent heard a full set of yours in TOO > > LONG! Its time for the cages, we dont need no booty house to climb the > > cages, freakin to jungle,thats what it all about. If i was a stripper > > id dance to D&B, plain and simple. > > Too bad when i got back to my car it was full-o-sluts, thats ok, sluts > > can be good sometimes...umm yeah. > > I cant believe how many people I met last night, it was awesome, > > everybody there Ruled! Why am i awake at 9am???? DOnt ask. > > > > HEH (my new favorite phrase), > > > > Jb > > > > Im off to watch a bunch of hot skaters representin for our boy Tim, > > RIP. > > --- Max McCauley wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 15 May 1999, Nuku wrote: > > > > > > > > I think thought one of the best parts was > > > being with my sfr family > > > > again. All ma stress suddenly kinda dropped away > > > and I was hanging with > > > > shane, randy, max, steph, mook, jeremy, o wait on > > > a side note..even Mr Nico > > > > was shaking his arse to the jungle set and I > > > could've sworn that boy to be a > > > > trance devotee for life. but much love goes out to > > > the old family even those > > > > I missed..er micheal the stickman. > > > > > > Haven't you heard the truth? Nico is a DUHvotee. > > > If you don't know get > > > to know! Sweet seventeen, neva been kissed, yes tha > > > man, Nico. > > > > > > > And ma love goes out to the new ppl I have > > > meet this nite. AndyW > > > > (run alcholic run, so freaking priceless), leslie, > > > jessica, Bigm00 and may I > > > > say again you did a lovely job and ooh he gave me > > > a kiss on the cheek > > > > *swoon* j/k > > > > > > Yes yes. Everything I do on the mic I do because of > > > "Ha." Last call for > > > al ca heezy hall, betta run alkie alkie run andy > > > RUN. > > > > > > > Oh one of the best things I heard was from > > > my co-worker. I asked her > > > > while we were in the jungle room listening to > > > Sciences set, "Do you like > > > > this?" and she replied "I never heard this stuff > > > before but I love it!" > > > > Thats just gotta make you smile. > > > > > > Yes we love Jaqueline, please bring her everywhere > > > as though she was your > > > ID, ed-e. > > > > > > Here is my quick review all talking shit aside. > > > Ryan, it's your birthday, > > > let's have a surfer on acid. They are much better > > > shots than "dirty > > > foreskins." > > > > > > Sra. Ayers, you are the original soul rebel. > > > > > > Jess ica, big up you for being the slut chauffeur. > > > > > > Mechasoul posse....two words: big tings. > > > > > > Markis and Naomi, can't stop, the body rock. > > > > > > Harmony crew: "you can do it." > > > > > > those chicks that aren't on the list: boy are you > > > fine. You make > > > everything...groovy. > > > > > > Samoa posse: hahahahahah > > > > > > Bartenders: shots that cost more than 5 bux a piece > > > should come in shot > > > glasses, not shot plastics. > > > > > > what else. > > > > > > Science: you are cordially invited to play six years > > > worth of breakbeat > > > music every time. you rinsed it. the whole 12er of > > > it. > > > > > > Andy W: run! bar's closing! > > > > > > Stickman: the bass II dark! > > > > > > Big M: nice1. we got your back man. imagine what > > > 100% satisfied people > > > would mean if there was more than two weeks to tell > > > people about it! > > > > > > Shidalou: do you like the taste of german imported > > > lips? > > > > > > what else...hmmm. > > > > > > This is wicked this is like senior quotes bizzness! > > > > > > Jeremy: You will make a great frat boy when you > > > learn that warm gin, and > > > not tequila is how to haze properly. > > > > > > All the girls I've loved before: thanks but no > > > thanks, I can't believe my > > > only real girlfriend ever is dating Julio Iglesias's > > > son now. Fuck that > > > shit. I need loot. I am flying to South America to > > > regulate. Maybe if I > > > had sent flowers... > > > > > > OK. 5 to 6. Time to strap the blades on, and skate > > > to 7-11. Yes yes, > > > it's about that time, to bring forth, the liquor and > > > the rhyme. > > > > > > 10-4, > > > duh, > > > max > > > > > > see you at First Light for sure, and The Formula in > > > spirit. BOH BOH BOH! > > > > > > > > > > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com > > > > > > --------------CDAE40B6FB2564666CF1F36B Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just moved here from Manhattan and Ethereal was a great intro to SF (some friends told me that 1015 was pretty good, but on the night I went there was too much of a pick-up scene which ruined the vibe for me). I wanted to add that Thorfio's set was a great "appetizer" to Science's heavy "main course" and throw props to Soul Kid for his incredibly funky set. Science is as good (if not better) than the best NYC jungle DJs, so consider yourself extremely lucky and blessed. I had a blast rollin' to his set. And props to the crowd who rocked the house (what you lacked in numbers you made up for in spirit--and at least there was plenty of room to gruv  =D ). And to those bwoys who were breakin, I hope your heads feel okay today!

Even though I'm a "stranger" you made me feel more accepted here than I've felt in NYC and London. I don't know what the scene here used to be like, but the attitude was a lot like what I remember of the warehouse raves in L.A. I went to back in 89-90 (sheeeit, now I've dated myself), so I don't really get what all the bitching is about (hopefully I won't find out).  But no matter how nice you are, you'll never get me in that cage!

I was the "old fuk" in the green cap, white shirt and black warmup pants--glasses, blonde. I might be at First Light tonight so if you remember me, come up and say hi.

Chris
 
 

micron wrote:

damn....looks like i played in the wrong room....i shoulda busted out
my jungle rekkids.....oh wait...i don't have any....aw shiiiiitee.

last night was interesting.....i don't think i'll ever let go of the
image of andy going nuts in the go-go cage...DAMN. let's just say that
the alcohol was flowing loosely last night and that everyone was in
full effect......

that party would have went off had there been more people, though i do
have to say that the few that were there pretty much rawked it.

and finally......i think that i'd hate to be andy or li this morning.

:)
micron

---Jess ica <thatpisces@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> HEH,
>
> I had such a great freakin time last night, tha crowd had it going
> on...I finally met Nuku, Leslie,Megatron and several other lovelies,
> which highlighted my night.
> Saw some lovelies I already know, got to share in the drunkeness of
the
> place, Andy, Mook, Steph, Jeremy, Max,Matt, Ben, John,stickman glad to
> see y'all whoopin it up.  WHAT DO YO MEAN ITS 2AM!!!!!  uhhh I hate
> that feeling, oh well.
> Science, you revived me, i havent heard a full set of yours in TOO
> LONG! Its time for the cages, we dont need no booty house to climb the
> cages, freakin to jungle,thats what it all about.  If i was a stripper
> id dance to D&B, plain and simple.
> Too bad when i got back to my car it was full-o-sluts, thats ok, sluts
> can be good sometimes...umm yeah.
> I cant believe how many people I met last night, it was awesome,
> everybody there Ruled!  Why am i awake at 9am???? DOnt ask.
>
> HEH (my new favorite phrase),
>
> Jb
>
> Im off to watch a bunch of hot skaters representin for our boy Tim,
> RIP.
> --- Max McCauley <maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 15 May 1999, Nuku wrote:
> > >
> > >         I think thought one of the best parts was
> > being with my sfr family
> > > again. All ma stress suddenly kinda dropped away
> > and I was hanging with
> > > shane, randy, max, steph, mook, jeremy, o wait on
> > a side note..even Mr Nico
> > > was shaking his arse to the jungle set and I
> > could've sworn that boy to be a
> > > trance devotee for life. but much love goes out to
> > the old family even those
> > > I missed..er micheal the stickman.
> >
> > Haven't you heard the truth?  Nico is a DUHvotee.
> > If you don't know get
> > to know!  Sweet seventeen, neva been kissed, yes tha
> > man, Nico.
> >
> > >         And ma love goes out to the new ppl I have
> > meet this nite. AndyW
> > > (run alcholic run, so freaking priceless), leslie,
> > jessica, Bigm00 and may I
> > > say again you did a lovely job and ooh he gave me
> > a kiss on the cheek
> > > *swoon* j/k
> >
> > Yes yes.  Everything I do on the mic I do because of
> > "Ha."  Last call for
> > al ca heezy hall, betta run alkie alkie run andy
> > RUN.
> >
> > >         Oh one of the best things I heard was from
> > my co-worker. I asked her
> > > while we were in the jungle room listening to
> > Sciences set, "Do you like
> > > this?" and she replied "I never heard this stuff
> > before but I love it!"
> > > Thats just gotta make you smile.
> >
> > Yes we love Jaqueline, please bring her everywhere
> > as though she was your
> > ID, ed-e.
> >
> > Here is my quick review all talking shit aside.
> > Ryan, it's your birthday,
> > let's have a surfer on acid.  They are much better
> > shots than "dirty
> > foreskins."
> >
> > Sra. Ayers, you are the original soul rebel.
> >
> > Jess ica, big up you for being the slut chauffeur.
> >
> > Mechasoul posse....two words: big tings.
> >
> > Markis and Naomi, can't stop, the body rock.
> >
> > Harmony crew: "you can do it."
> >
> > those chicks that aren't on the list: boy are you
> > fine.  You make
> > everything...groovy.
> >
> > Samoa posse: hahahahahah
> >
> > Bartenders: shots that cost more than 5 bux a piece
> > should come in shot
> > glasses, not shot plastics.
> >
> > what else.
> >
> > Science: you are cordially invited to play six years
> > worth of breakbeat
> > music every time.  you rinsed it.  the whole 12er of
> > it.
> >
> > Andy W: run!  bar's closing!
> >
> > Stickman: the bass II dark!
> >
> > Big M: nice1.  we got your back man.  imagine what
> > 100% satisfied people
> > would mean if there was more than two weeks to tell
> > people about it!
> >
> > Shidalou: do you like the taste of german imported
> > lips?
> >
> > what else...hmmm.
> >
> > This is wicked this is like senior quotes bizzness!
> >
> > Jeremy: You will make a great frat boy when you
> > learn that warm gin, and
> > not tequila is how to haze properly.
> >
> > All the girls I've loved before: thanks but no
> > thanks, I can't believe my
> > only real girlfriend ever is dating Julio Iglesias's
> > son now.  Fuck that
> > shit.  I need loot.  I am flying to South America to
> > regulate.  Maybe if I
> > had sent flowers...
> >
> > OK.  5 to 6.  Time to strap the blades on, and skate
> > to 7-11.  Yes yes,
> > it's about that time, to bring forth, the liquor and
> > the rhyme.
> >
> > 10-4,
> > duh,
> > max
> >
> > see you at First Light for sure, and The Formula in
> > spirit. BOH BOH BOH!
> >
> >
>
> Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com
>
>
>

--------------CDAE40B6FB2564666CF1F36B-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 01:31:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23109 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 01:31:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 23101 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 01:31:37 -0000 Received: from web129.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.198) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 01:31:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990516013143.22712.rocketmail@web129.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.71.204.166] by web129.yahoomail.com; Sat, 15 May 1999 18:31:43 PDT Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 18:31:43 -0700 (PDT) From: PRIME Subject: Ethereal To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Abstract thoughts-- There is definite new blood flowing in SF... it is coming from so many directions... but last night at 550 the 2- 3:30 flow was provided by MEGATRON.... what the hell son... you ignited a dancefloor and kept it burning... funk, soul, steppa, rolla... you provided a missing consistent high- level energy that SF needs guys... MEGATRON set the flow and MC Duh just melted in sync... magic... Really... I do not post much... no need really... but when music or people need to get recognized for their accomplishments... people need to know about it... Peace, Scott - Mechasoul === Codename: "PRIME" - adj. of first importance Base(s): Northern California\ Washington, D.C. Style: Atmospherics and Technology-- Hard-banging bliss Team(s): Mechanized Soul, Radio- V.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ HEAR THE MUSIC NOW!!! http://radiov.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 02:30:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10640 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 02:29:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 10627 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 02:29:56 -0000 Received: from saga12.stanford.edu (171.64.15.142) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 02:29:56 -0000 Received: (from adia@localhost) by saga12.Stanford.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.7) id TAA12014; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:29:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 19:29:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Adia Coleman To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It's me again. A group of us are planning on going to the rave tonight but none of us has bought any tickets yet. We hope to buy it at the door. Do you think that's possible? If so, what time should we get there? Adia From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 02:32:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11576 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 02:32:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 11567 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 02:32:20 -0000 Received: from saga12.stanford.edu (171.64.15.142) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 02:32:20 -0000 Received: (from adia@localhost) by saga12.Stanford.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.7) id TAA12062; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 19:32:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Adia Coleman To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I forgot! Can you tell me what is the best way to get to 2nd and Jackson in Oakland from Stanford University/Palo Alto? Thanx!!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 03:51:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3550 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 03:51:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 3542 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 03:51:44 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 03:51:44 -0000 Received: from WizardCCCA@aol.com (8032) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vTNGa27692 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 23:50:37 -0400 (EDT) From: WizardCCCA@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 23:50:37 EDT Subject: IM BACK!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey guys! Well, I am officially in CA. I just wanted to find out what parties you guys were all going to and maybe suggest a net meet somewhere before a party. I am not sure if you guys do that or not, but on the mountain raves list we sometimes meet at a restaurant before a party to meet everyone and have some fun before the real fun begins... Anyway, I know a little while back you guys posted where you were all from, but I have a bad memory... if anyone is from near Cupertino, could you email me? Thanks guys... hope to meet some of you all real soon. Luv, Liz From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 04:17:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10550 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 04:17:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 10397 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 04:17:43 -0000 Received: from web703.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.23) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 04:17:43 -0000 Message-ID: <19990516042137.4594.rocketmail@web703.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.201.162] by web703.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 15 May 1999 21:21:37 PDT Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 21:21:37 -0700 (PDT) From: mike bolger Subject: nrr : star wars To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk a girl that hasn't spoken to me in over 2 years put me on the guest list for the invite only lucas clan screening of star wars that was today at the amc1000. 1015 has got nothing on the amc1000, i'm telling you, that's where all the fresh young things are on the weekends. may 14 1998 : 1) the last episode of seinfeld; the most hyped media event of the year. 2) death of frank sinatra 3) george lucas turns 54. i'm probably the only person on this planet who thinks that's really fucking cool. S P O I L E R . it's not Howard The Duck. really, it's not. there are moments that it tries really hard to be. everytime Jar Jar opens his mouth it's just george lucas on crack and as soon as we ignore it, it will just go away. it's not as dark and morrbid as i would have done it, but then again i'm a pretty dark and morrbid kind of guy. i'm also gonna reserve judgement untill george finishs his story, otherwise it's like trying to judge a strip of Doonsbery by just reading the first panel. it's a faire tale, it's a boys movie, but it's also Young Hitler In Love. no matter how hard this kid tries, not matter how cute he looks, you know that he's just doomed to end up the most fucking evil and hated thing in the scene before Mark Hammil toss's his pastly white ass into a bonfire. allways remember that. Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 09:58:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14612 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 09:58:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 14603 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 09:58:54 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 09:58:54 -0000 Received: from BodhiInSF@aol.com (8079) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNGLa05092 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 05:58:24 -0400 (EDT) From: BodhiInSF@aol.com Message-ID: <89de651f.246ff0c0@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 05:58:24 EDT Subject: LookingForTapesToListenToOnMyTripToSF To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk IM driving up to San Francisco next month for Vlad's next party on the 19th (Splender Blender). It's going to be a long drive through the desert and up the coast, and I'd really appreciate it if anyone who has tapes, especially demo tapes they would love to send me to help make my long drive a lot more tolerable. I don't care what style. If anyone wants to be my musical companion, mail me, and I'll send you my address. Peace, love, and Hugzzzz to all! ---Bodhi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 10:28:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20109 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 10:28:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 20084 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 10:28:43 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 10:28:43 -0000 Received: from BodhiInSF@aol.com (8079) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vFBQa09695 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 06:28:08 -0400 (EDT) From: BodhiInSF@aol.com Message-ID: <156e00a7.246ff7b8@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 06:28:08 EDT Subject: Why Are You A Raver? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Why are you a raver? Some are ravers for the drugs. Some to pick up on girls/boys. Some because of the music, some for the freedom and the forum of self expression raves and being a raver usually provides. Some for the spiritual dimension and expirences they may have at raves. Some because raves are a great place to find and meet friends. Some because raves are a safe place for them to be, a place to go rather than hanging on the streets. Some because they seek to learn and practice PLUR. For what ever reason you are a raver, I'd love to hear your reason why. Peace, love and hugzzz to all! ---Bodhi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 11:09:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24805 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 11:09:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 24797 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 11:09:55 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd128.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 11:09:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 36768 invoked by uid 0); 16 May 1999 11:09:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19990516110923.36767.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.140.3.201 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 16 May 1999 04:09:23 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.140.3.201] From: "ve anne" To: BodhiInSF@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Why Are You A Raver? Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 11:09:23 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk because masturbation gets boring... From: BodhiInSF@aol.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Why Are You A Raver? Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 06:28:08 EDT Why are you a raver? Some are ravers for the drugs. Some to pick up on girls/boys. Some because of the music, some for the freedom and the forum of self expression raves and being a raver usually provides. Some for the spiritual dimension and expirences they may have at raves. Some because raves are a great place to find and meet friends. Some because raves are a safe place for them to be, a place to go rather than hanging on the streets. Some because they seek to learn and practice PLUR. For what ever reason you are a raver, I'd love to hear your reason why. Peace, love and hugzzz to all! ---Bodhi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 11:46:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2861 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 11:46:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 2848 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 11:46:13 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd108.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.172) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 11:46:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 31798 invoked by uid 0); 16 May 1999 11:45:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19990516114546.31797.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.140.3.201 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 16 May 1999 04:45:46 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.140.3.201] From: "dj _haK" To: maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: yo my ninja Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 04:45:46 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk dude, you were good tonite! much respects for all your help (announcing urban assault). would love to have mc at my monday nite. i'll ask rue if he's okay wit it.... keep in touch thad From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 11:48:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3748 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 11:48:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 3740 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 11:48:52 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?0SShnP/TyjUuI9KJnxAIU9UlS+cJPmRA?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 11:48:52 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id EAA01655 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 04:48:52 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 04:48:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: speaking of masturbation aka First Light review In-Reply-To: <19990516110923.36767.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk There is only one thing that needs to be explained. For all the folks that stayed in the breakbeats room through the technical difficulties, you enjoyed a special Pornstar Tune treat, courtesy of Rinse, who along with Flux and Protolab and Hak and Siphon STRAIGHTENED OUT the vibe. I wouldn't know how any of the other rooms went, but that's mostly because I could go to a party with STRICTLY drum&bass and be perfectly happy not to hear any other type shit until I got in the car to go home. Seen? Wicked dancefloor movers, nice "hunger is the best sauce" sound level issues, big up to the B.A.S.S. K R U for convincing Stacy to let us pump the decibels back up. that's that. remember we do what the fuck we like. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 11:53:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4842 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 11:53:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 4834 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 11:53:06 -0000 Received: from x15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 11:53:06 -0000 Received: (from elias_smith@juno.com) by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EAQ5DBUM; Sun, 16 May 1999 07:52:06 EDT To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 04:26:17 -0700 Subject: Andrei Morant & those little tiny pieces of brain he removed from my head (first light review) Message-ID: <19990516.042619.14094.0.Elias_Smith@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 4,10-12,17-21 From: the town drunk Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk err... It's late. I tried to sleep, but that is hard after what Andrei Morant did to us. I don't think anybody is going to leave First Light tonight ever being the same after that. If you are a hard tekno fan and decided not to go to First Light and see Andrei, shame on you for staying home and getting drunk! My Lord. This man got on the decks, and proceeded to unleash a fury this city has never seen the likes of. Comparable to when The Surgeon payed us a visit a couple years back, but, if you can believe, way more mental. Sloppy as hell mixing, but when you are playing with that kinda energy, I hardly think it matters. I'd say he got his point across. What I mean to say is, it was awesome. Anyhoo, now I know why they call this freako Mac-Daddy-O! ; P The crew did a damn fine job decorating everybody's fun loving hellhole, 2nd & Jackson. The production was kick-ass as well as the line-up. A bit crowded, but hey, 2nd and Jackson right? I love parties like this and I think there should be way more of 'em. So take a cue from Macadio & family. And as Fonzie the Bear would say, "Wa-ka wa-ka wa-ka wa-ka!" eli-ass smith or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 12:23:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8858 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 12:23:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 8849 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 12:23:28 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?mUmrWqLBDRmTjduEo0WydtqcR7r5CSbz?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 12:23:28 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id FAA03827; Sun, 16 May 1999 05:23:26 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 05:23:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: the town drunk cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Andrei Morant & those little tiny pieces of brain he removed from my head (first light review) In-Reply-To: <19990516.042619.14094.0.Elias_Smith@juno.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok, remember how I mentioned how I never saw any part of this party but the breakbeats room? Because jungle rules my template? Well here we seem to have a reaction from someone who went for another vibe, and ended up smiling like me, seen? On Sun, 16 May 1999, the town drunk wrote: > decided not to go to First Light and see Andrei, shame on you for staying > home and getting drunk! What about those of us that got way way caned, left home, got drunk, came in, rocked the fuckin party, got CRUNK, and then went home. And got way caned some more. Yes, buddha, yes, ganja, that's marijuana, send fi the rizla. > Sloppy as hell mixing, but when you are playing with that kinda energy, I > hardly think it matters. I'd say he got his point across. What I mean to > say is, it was awesome. You ever been to Texas? Texas is about one thing, and that's music...doesn't matter what form or order or whatever the fuck variety it comes in...if it's got energy, then people go absolutely psycho, and that's about that. > Anyhoo, now I know why they call this freako Mac-Daddy-O! ; P Macadio, you and First Light massive amazed me...all the bullshit that came up, yall worked through it all and provided everyone with the most...fucking niceness good times any of us could have asked for. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 12:29:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9979 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 12:29:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 9971 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 12:29:38 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 12:29:38 -0000 Received: from Barbero420@aol.com (48) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vFVLa26069 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 08:28:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Barbero420@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 08:28:35 EDT Subject: im the dumbest To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i know this because its 4:20 AM (seriously) and i just realized its satnight/sunmorning. the night first light is goin off. AND IM NOT THERE! stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid me. (no, im not tweeked out, yet) so, 2 all u kandikids, e-tards, happy hardcores and those off u who are ShakinYoMoneyMakersAtThatOffTheHookDopeLocationGoodTunesForBootieShakinSpeaker FreakinBestVibinSecurityLovinLasersBeaminFuckinParty!!??... Have a great time and tell me all about it tomorrow, or whenever u wake up. PLUR, BaadBoy420 (Barbero420) y'all dont even know how much i wish i was there. :-( From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 16:53:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1306 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 16:53:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 1298 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 16:53:10 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 16:53:10 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EARNJ3ZR; Sun, 16 May 1999 12:52:21 EDT To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 09:56:45 -0700 Subject: 1st light! Thank you daddy!!! Message-ID: <19990516.095647.-55713.0.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 12-14,24-26,40-41,43-45,47-48 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah, thank you Macadio, My daddy, for the best part I've ever been to at 2nd and Jax. Where do I start? All of the djs kicked my ass, but Macadio moved my soul with his funky beat..... next week I am watcing your whole set, being that that was the main reason I came. The jungle was dope, the trance was dope, and of course, cause you know this is what that party was really about, the techno was dope. When I first got in, I was like "Fuck trance, just let me get lost in the jungle". But I changed my mind quickly. Tho the jungle is really what made this party for me, and what would it be without Max calling "Theresa" on the mic, making me blush and of course dance harder cause those who know me know I'm a show off. Rinse, Flux, Hak, Siphon, you represent the best sound of the day, and Micron, you fuckin represented with some old school shit "It takes 2 to make a thing go right." Made me wanna do the running man!!! Seemed like everyone was having a good time, so pardon me if i reserve the right to talk shit and clown on anyone who was stupid enough not to enjoy themselves last night. How could you not? But for reals, I get tired of seeing mad heads CHILLING ON THE FLOOR when the music should be rockin their whole body. I mean chillin for a lil while is cool if you're still appreciating it, but I just don't understand- how can you not dance from your soul when you hear a song like "I'll Show You Paradise." Or when you got a dj like Macadio behind the decks with his magical energy. I don't care if I would have been hella tired, beats like that are not for just listening to. You gotta show some love. Well, anyways, I can't fucking wait til Children of The Sun. I haven't seen Brad since Dune last year (speaking of which, I really wanna go but i gotta talk some down ass people into going down there. You know how you have those bomb ass parties that change your entire raving experience. Dune is on of those parties.). I can't wait. Attention south bay kids: need something dope to wear to this party and don't have much cash? Come to Crossroads (408) 292-6622 on San Carlos, across the street from wear Solid Grooves used to be. We have new and recycled clothing, and we buy every day all day so we get dope shit all the time. Also, if you're low on cash, come and sell your clothes. Stuff you don't wear anymore, but is still stylish and unique, and of course in good condition, could get you a couple extra $ for some weed or a ticket to children of the sun or some other good cause. I guess you could say I love seeing party kids at my work. Now why did I go off on that tangient? Well anyways, hope that everyone is doing well this sunday, and hope to see some familiar faces at Sunset later today. Peace, Theresa aka Da Dope or, as Max would call me, the Sex Pistol in that rainbow hoochified candy ass shit. ps you (you know who you are) have a great ass. or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 18:30:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20864 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 18:30:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 20848 invoked by uid 233); 16 May 1999 18:30:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 29716 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 19:39:49 -0000 Received: from spazmo.peacedividend.com (HELO mail.peacedividend.com) (208.25.76.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 19:39:49 -0000 Received: from [208.25.76.69] (208.25.76.69) by mail.peacedividend.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.2.2); Sat, 15 May 1999 12:41:03 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: jessica@mail.peacedividend.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990515162835.26664.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 12:38:51 -0700 To: Jess ica , Nuku From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: Quick review of Etheral. Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Whimper, whine... Thanks for representing team Jessica last night, in rare Jess ica style! I swear I'll get to dance with your bad self, soon, but last night was a really tough decision I had to stand by - I had my last session of a 2 1/2 YEAR run with my very favorite tattoo artist - we're trying to finish up my right arm, and ran late, and *didn't* finish so it looks like I'll be taking ink-vacations soon - and figured it was a good idea to tend to this precious ink carefully as there will be *no* opportunity for touch ups. Oozing inevitable toxins and sweat thru fresh scraped flesh is just a recipe for scarring... Plus, if I'd been there I'd have rubbed up against you and gotten ink and lymph fluid and blood all over you and that would be decidedly unfriendly! Sigh... It sounded like a perfect night, and I fucking love Barneveld (even with the overpriced bar) and really want to get to know y'all better! Love, Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 18:49:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27570 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 18:49:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 27562 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 18:49:14 -0000 Received: from web707.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.27) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 18:49:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19990516184708.22653.rocketmail@web707.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.25.63.108] by web707.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 16 May 1999 11:47:08 PDT Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 11:47:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Amber Williams Subject: Re: Why Are You A Raver? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk because it makes me smile and fills me with joy. To see myself out there dancing along with so many others truly enjoying the beauty of life, and the happiness it can bring to us all. Singing Skys --- BodhiInSF@aol.com wrote: > Why are you a raver? Some are ravers for the > drugs. Some to pick up on > girls/boys. Some because of the music, some for the > freedom and the forum of > self expression raves and being a raver usually > provides. Some for the > spiritual dimension and expirences they may have at > raves. Some because raves > are a great place to find and meet friends. Some > because raves are a safe > place for them to be, a place to go rather than > hanging on the streets. Some > because they seek to learn and practice PLUR. > For what ever reason you are a raver, I'd love to > hear your reason why. > Peace, love and hugzzz to all! ---Bodhi > === Sky skys_sing@yahoo.com Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 19:03:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1745 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 19:03:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 1701 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 19:03:00 -0000 Received: from shocking.com (HELO fingers.shocking.com) (root@216.111.111.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 19:03:00 -0000 Received: from mulder (98ABB543.ipt.aol.com [152.171.181.67]) by fingers.shocking.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id MAA00819 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 12:01:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905161901.MAA00819@fingers.shocking.com> X-Sender: sarilion@fingers.shocking.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:05:41 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Sarilion Subject: Re: Why Are You A Raver? In-Reply-To: <19990516184708.22653.rocketmail@web707.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I like adventure. I'm leaving the list - Later Sarilion At 11:47 AM 5/16/99 , Amber Williams wrote: >because it makes me smile and fills me with joy. To >see myself out there dancing along with so many others >truly enjoying the beauty of life, and the happiness >it can bring to us all. > >Singing Skys > >--- BodhiInSF@aol.com wrote: >> Why are you a raver? Some are ravers for the >> drugs. Some to pick up on >> girls/boys. Some because of the music, some for the >> freedom and the forum of >> self expression raves and being a raver usually >> provides. Some for the >> spiritual dimension and expirences they may have at >> raves. Some because raves >> are a great place to find and meet friends. Some >> because raves are a safe >> place for them to be, a place to go rather than >> hanging on the streets. Some >> because they seek to learn and practice PLUR. >> For what ever reason you are a raver, I'd love to >> hear your reason why. >> Peace, love and hugzzz to all! ---Bodhi >> > >=== >Sky >skys_sing@yahoo.com >Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 19:06:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3437 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 19:06:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 3424 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 19:06:29 -0000 Received: from dockmaster.usfca.edu (138.202.192.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 19:06:29 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer ([138.202.103.171]) by dockmaster.usfca.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA30385; Sun, 16 May 1999 12:06:27 -0700 Message-ID: <000701be9fce$aab328a0$ab67ca8a@oemcomputer.usfca.edu> From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: , Subject: Re: Why Are You A Raver? Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:02:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE9F93.FE006440" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE9F93.FE006440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Why are you a raver?=20 When I first started going out to parties, I just went cuz it was the = cool thing to do. I wasn't really into the music, but my friends wanted = me to go, so I went. I began to enjoy the scene a whole lot more, and = fell in love with it. I loved the people, the music, and the vibe. =20 Then, I started doing drugs more and more, and after a while, I lost = touch of why I was going to parties in the first place. All I wanted to = go to the parties was for the drugs. I still enjoyed the music and the = people, but it just wasn't the same anymore. The raves were being held = at the same old warehouse every weekend, and the same people were coming = out to party. There was NOTHING new happening and the drugs kept it all = interesting. One day, after I realized that I had never gone to a party sober, I = decided to try it out and not get high that night. It was then when I = realized how boring the scene (this is all in Hawaii, I might add) = really is. The DJs spin the same shitty records all night long. No one = dances. And everyone just sits around fucked out of their minds. It = sucked. So I started making some of my friends go to parties sober with me, and = we ended up making the place a little better, but the parties were still = heavily drug dependant and BORING. Ok, so then I moved up here to SF, and raves weren't just the easy = option for me to go to every weekend. I had no money and I didn't = really know anyone. But I still had that craving in me to go out and = party. Eventually, I made friends and they took me out to some = motherfucking GREAT parties (thank you ANGEL!). I wasn't really doing = drugs that much, and was going to these parties because I wanted to be = with friends and listen to some great music. But I still wasn't going = out that much and hadn't integrated myself into the scene very well. Until. . . I met this guy that was really popular around the raves, and = we started seeing each other. He kindly took me around to parties, = introduced me to his friends, and made me feel like I was a part of = something (thank you, you know who you are). He let me be part of the = behind-the-scenes crew and I was loving that more than actually going to = parties. I just loved the whole feeling of setting up something for = hours and hours for all these other people (friends and strangers) to = come and have a good time. Ok, so how is it now? Well, he and I aren't seeing each other anymore, = and I have to admit that I haven't been going out as much because of = him, but I miss it a lot. I'm going back to Hawaii for 2 weeks next = week, and I have this feeling of obligation to go to the raves (because = everyone EXPECTS me to be there), and i don't like that feeling. It's = like, I have no fucking choice if I want to go. argh! And I'm glad = that's not how it is here. So my answer is, I go for the music. And I go to spend time with my = friends. If I didn't love the music like I do now, I don't think that I = would be going out. I mean, I can go and see my friends anytime outside = of the raves, but when do I get a chance to hear those beats pounding = through my head in a warehouse packed full of kids. Hell, the kids = might not be there for the same reasons I am, but at least (well, I = hope), that they're there (at least partly) for the music like I am. love lia p.s. And I hope that I didn't distort anyone's ideas about the scene in = Hawaii. I have bad things to say about it simply because I got mixed up = in the wrong crowd. The scene there is VERY different (and a whole lot = smaller) than here, but it's still good. Like every scene, it has its = good qualities and its bad ones. The crew that I was with just mainly = focused on the bad, and that's not cool. p.p.s Thank you ANGEL for taking me out and introducing me to the scene = up here. I'll miss you! You have to come over to my new house = sometime, k? p.p.p.s Thank you also to MR POPULAR (you know who you are---and so = does everyone else---hehehhee) for also taking me out and introducing me = to all your friends. You are a true friend and you have been there for = me when I needed someone. Thanks for everything you've done for me. I = truely appriciate it (even if I do act like a bitch sometimes. = remember---it's only ACTING.). la di da di da. . . ok, this is getting a little too emotional for me. hehhehehe. . .=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE9F93.FE006440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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When I first started = going out to=20 parties, I just went cuz it was the cool thing to do.  I wasn't = really into=20 the music, but my friends wanted me to go, so I went.  I began to = enjoy the=20 scene a whole lot more, and fell in love with it.  I loved the = people, the=20 music, and the vibe. 
 
Then, I started doing = drugs more and=20 more, and after a while, I lost touch of why I was going to parties in = the first=20 place.  All I wanted to go to the parties was for the drugs.  = I still=20 enjoyed the music and the people, but it just wasn't the same = anymore.  The=20 raves were being held at the same old warehouse every weekend, and the = same=20 people were coming out to party.  There was NOTHING new happening = and the=20 drugs kept it all interesting.
 
One day, after I = realized that I had=20 never gone to a party sober, I decided to try it out and not get high = that=20 night.  It was then when I realized how boring the scene (this is = all in=20 Hawaii, I might add) really is.  The DJs spin the same shitty = records all=20 night long.  No one dances.  And everyone just sits around = fucked out=20 of their minds.  It sucked.
 
So I started making some of my friends = go to=20 parties sober with me, and we ended up making the place a little better, = but the=20 parties were still heavily drug dependant and BORING.
 
Ok, so then I moved up here to SF, and = raves=20 weren't just the easy option for me to go to every weekend.  I had = no money=20 and I didn't really know anyone.  But I still had that craving in = me to go=20 out and party.  Eventually, I made friends and they took me out to = some=20 motherfucking GREAT parties (thank you ANGEL!).  I wasn't really = doing=20 drugs that much, and was going to these parties because I wanted to be = with=20 friends and listen to some great music.  But I still wasn't going = out that=20 much and hadn't integrated myself into the scene very well.
 
Until. . . I met this guy that was = really popular=20 around the raves, and we started seeing each other.  He kindly took = me=20 around to parties, introduced me to his friends, and made me feel like I = was a=20 part of something (thank you, you know who you are).  He let me be = part of=20 the behind-the-scenes crew and I was loving that more than actually = going to=20 parties.  I just loved the whole feeling of setting up something = for hours=20 and hours for all these other people (friends and strangers) to come and = have a=20 good time.
 
Ok, so how is it now?  Well, he = and I aren't=20 seeing each other anymore, and I have to admit that I haven't been going = out as=20 much because of him, but I miss it a lot.  I'm going back to Hawaii = for 2=20 weeks next week, and I have this feeling of obligation to go to the = raves=20 (because everyone EXPECTS me to be there), and i don't like that = feeling. =20 It's like, I have no fucking choice if I want to go.  argh!  = And I'm=20 glad that's not how it is here.
 
So my answer is, I go for the = music.  And I=20 go to spend time with my friends.  If I didn't love the music like = I do=20 now, I don't think that I would be going out.  I mean, I can go and = see my=20 friends anytime outside of the raves, but when do I get a chance to hear = those=20 beats pounding through my head in a warehouse packed full of kids.  = Hell,=20 the kids might not be there for the same reasons I am, but at least = (well, I=20 hope), that they're there (at least partly) for the music like I=20 am.
 
love lia
 
p.s.  And I hope that I didn't = distort=20 anyone's ideas about the scene in Hawaii.  I have bad things to say = about=20 it simply because I got mixed up in the wrong crowd.  The scene = there is=20 VERY different (and a whole lot smaller) than here, but it's still = good. =20 Like every scene, it has its good qualities and its bad ones.  The = crew=20 that I was with just mainly focused on the bad, and that's not=20 cool.
 
p.p.s  Thank you ANGEL for taking = me out and=20 introducing me to the scene up here.  I'll miss you!  You have = to come=20 over to my new house sometime, k?
 
p.p.p.s  Thank you also to MR = POPULAR (you=20 know who you are---and so does everyone else---hehehhee) for also taking = me out=20 and introducing me to all your friends.  You are a true friend and = you have=20 been there for me when I needed someone.  Thanks for everything = you've done=20 for me.  I truely appriciate it (even if I do act like a bitch=20 sometimes.  remember---it's only ACTING.).
 
la di da di da. . . ok, this is = getting a little=20 too emotional for me.
hehhehehe. . . =
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE9F93.FE006440-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 19:26:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8888 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 19:26:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 8879 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 19:26:44 -0000 Received: from firstclass.monterey.edu (HELO mail.monterey.edu) (198.189.5.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 19:26:44 -0000 Message-id: Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:24:54 -0700 Subject: S/he boom Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu (Robert Delarosa) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Cloudfactory....good folks Music.....Yup Vibe......almost as good as it gets fashion........suave' Visuals..........superb as always price.....way worth it water,food, wine location.......it was an art gallery, con' that is about as good as it gets. I have nothing negative to say about this event except maybe next year they should do it in Monterey. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 20:03:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19904 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 20:03:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 19799 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 20:03:44 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 20:03:44 -0000 Received: from BBoiBreks@aol.com (316) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLIRa10990; Sun, 16 May 1999 16:02:30 -0400 (EDT) From: BBoiBreks@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 16:02:29 EDT Subject: Re: Why Are You A Raver? To: BodhiInSF@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I go to parties to get some. I dance at parties to get some. I buy clothes to go to parties to get some. I eat to look healthy to go to parties to get some. I was born to go to parties to get some. Hell, I can't be choosing which chick I get with, I just need to get some. Oh, yeah, I also go to spread the love of Mother Earth and Brother Man by getting with peeps. the born-again-virgin poser bboibreks From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 20:22:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25992 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 20:22:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 25970 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 20:22:55 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 20:22:55 -0000 Received: from Laalkuchaa@aol.com (14390) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vXIVa04196 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 16:22:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Laalkuchaa@aol.com Message-ID: <57c59e74.247082f1@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 16:22:09 EDT Subject: re: E testing To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Gotta few questions... Can you test for e in urine or just blood... how long does it stay in your system.. blood and urine.... Thanks for the help.. Laal From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 20:30:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29060 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 20:30:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 29050 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 20:30:51 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 20:30:51 -0000 Received: from BabyChinoZ@aol.com (8051) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLVTa02836 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 16:30:13 -0400 (EDT) From: BabyChinoZ@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 16:30:12 EDT Subject: NRR: Bad Months? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Have you ever stoped to think, mabey there is such a thing in the world as a bad month? It seams like everything from this past month that i have seen is negative. I know i can speak for a lot of people when i say, i don't need that kind of negativity filling my space! I get enough shit to deal with, my family, girls, money, friends, my job..... I am brought down so much by that stuff that it hurts to get kicked even farthe down by some of you people. It's good to voice your opinion and shit like that but don't gripe at every damn thing thats wrong, because face the facts, NOTHING IS PERFECT! If you got a problem with someone talk to them... because most of the time it's just something you can work out. If you absoultely hate something thats fine, mabey make a suggestion on how things could be better. I'm sorry to say it but it's gotten to the point now for me where i just end up deleting half of my SFR mail! -tyson (= 2 weeks sober =) And DAMN Proud! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 22:09:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29279 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 22:09:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 29266 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 22:09:22 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 22:09:22 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (98CCCE35.ipt.aol.com [152.204.206.53]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01230 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 15:09:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <373F425E.D931AD34@geocities.com> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 15:10:38 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: Why are you a human? NRR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'd just like to remind some of you people that we are all humans in this world... So... Why are you a human? =Paul*E*Wog P.S. This is one of those questions that does need an answer. Just think about it... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 22:12:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1018 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 22:12:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 919 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 22:12:20 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 22:12:20 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (98CCD3BD.ipt.aol.com [152.204.211.189]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02751; Sun, 16 May 1999 15:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <373F430F.25D381C3@geocities.com> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 15:13:35 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BBoiBreks@aol.com CC: BodhiInSF@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Why Are You A Raver? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Didn't you get with me last time??? =Paul*E*Wog P.S. Bitchanca smokes crack out of light bulbs BBoiBreks@aol.com wrote: > > I go to parties to get some. I dance at parties to get some. I buy clothes to > go to parties to get some. I eat to look healthy to go to parties to get > some. I was born to go to parties to get some. Hell, I can't be choosing > which chick I get with, I just need to get some. Oh, yeah, I also go to > spread the love of Mother Earth and Brother Man by getting with peeps. > > the born-again-virgin poser > bboibreks From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 22:17:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3653 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 22:17:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 3640 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 22:17:40 -0000 Received: from kzsu.stanford.edu (36.118.0.90) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 22:17:40 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kzsu.Stanford.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA13143 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 15:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905162217.PAA13143@kzsu.Stanford.EDU> X-Authentication-Warning: kzsu.Stanford.EDU: localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: do you have an alter? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 13 May 1999 21:49:56 EDT." <8648b126.246cdb44@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 15:17:38 -0700 From: Joe Brenner Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk My alter is my ego. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 22:19:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5036 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 22:19:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 5028 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 22:19:42 -0000 Received: from law-f40.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.103) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 22:19:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 59438 invoked by uid 0); 16 May 1999 22:21:01 -0000 Message-ID: <19990516222101.59437.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.113.171.115 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 16 May 1999 15:21:00 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.113.171.115] From: "trancebaby_ NBC" To: dat_dj@hotmail.com, andy@saturn5.com, dj_boywonder@hotmail.com, isaacl@divi.com, Ravergrl27@aol.com, macadio@hotmail.com, TeKnODiVa@aol.com, goodvibe@geocities.com, ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org, rayvonie@ix.netcom.com, X2Nyte@aol.com Subject: Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 15:21:00 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk So here I go Again!!! doin' up in the way it should be!!! hahahahah! this party is set to go off!!!!, after the success of last month's event we are doing it again, so come on up here and dance!!!!! DISCOVERY----> Wednesday, May 26th 1999 . . . . . . . . Harmonics presents--------> DISCOVERY Li- Harmony, viberation (his first appearance since oct!) Ryan Wilber (NBC, SPARKLE, VORG) Greg Sandler (Harmony, Harmonics) Gianni (Harmonics, VORG, Release) Mac (Harmony, Harmonics, NBC) J-BOT (Harmony, Harmonics, NBC) Sean Norton (Mission to Mondays) Urn (Harmonics, Sparkle, NBC, Harmony) Logik (NBC, Sparkle, ASR, Children of the Sun ) 20,000 watt sound system taking you away from it all from 9pm -4am. . . $7 cover, 18 and over. . . . the party's at the corner of 5th and Davis streets in Santa Rosa. . . I would like to thank all of you that came out last time and would like to invite you back for another special event in the Northbay. you are the one's who make the party so come out with your big smiles and happy vibes and lets show these north bay kids what it's all about. . . I must apologize about the discrepency in the cover charge. . .my graphic artist didn't get the numbers right, but hey it's only $2 more so what the hey! right?? this event is happening the first week of summer for many and during finals week for other's. I hope that you can all come out and show your support and keep us going strong into summer. . . I can't wait to see you there smilin' !!!!!!! Peace and Love Raoul trancebaby. . . . . Love ya all!!!!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 22:34:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11393 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 22:34:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 11374 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 22:34:27 -0000 Received: from mail2.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 22:34:27 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (98CCD3BD.ipt.aol.com [152.204.211.189]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15353 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 15:32:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <373F483B.930762BF@geocities.com> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 15:35:39 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: Notify The PRESS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am leaving the house now. =Paul*E*Wog P.S. Teknodiva gives good head... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 22:46:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15814 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 22:46:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 15805 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 22:46:42 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 22:46:42 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com (8036) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id dSRCa09694; Sun, 16 May 1999 18:45:48 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 18:45:47 EDT Subject: Re: speaking of masturbation aka First Light review To: maxmcc@csua.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk First Light was a sick party. I finally "get" jungle. It always seemed so random but after last night i dont know if I can go back. The trance room was so hot and crowded that i forced myself to dance to jungle and listen to Max and that shit was dope. I had soooo much fun last night, and was with a lot of my best friends in the world. Everything worked out perfectly just like it should every weekend. I'm a lil cracked out so I think i'll jus go back to sleep. Thanx to all my friends for keepin such a positive vibe and making my night so good. love, Matt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 22:59:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21469 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 22:59:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 21461 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 22:59:18 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 22:59:18 -0000 Received: from Markis1012@aol.com (363) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vZBWa03059; Sun, 16 May 1999 18:58:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Markis1012@aol.com Message-ID: <3a15ae32.2470a7a8@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 18:58:48 EDT Subject: Formula Reveiw To: sfraves@hyperreal.org CC: Naomi0211@aol.com, djflux@pacbell.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello out there. For those of you that went to the FORMULA last night are probably still recovering from all the pressure. Damn, I think I broke my legs from all the dancing I did. For those that missed it...........SO SORRY!! This party had it all. The water was only one dollar, the vibe was so thick you could cut it with a knife, there were no kandE kids taking up all the dancing space all cracked out(no offence guys), and the music was SO INTENSE. From beginning to end. NON-STOP, ACTION PACKED JUNGLE MADNESS. IT's like a dream come true. Every DJ there was TOTALLy sik. I wish they had parties like this every weekend. Big ups to the Sacramento (916) junglist. B-side ripped the tables apart. NOw I see why heads flip over his style. Whats up Mikey and Joey and his crew. Mikey, your style is fukin DOPE!!! I hope I see you at jungle parties more often!! PEACE Of course I gotta give shots out to all the San Fransyco junglists. BIg ups to the B.A.S.S Kru. Rinse & Flux tore it up as usual. Thanx for the SQUIRT tape Catrina. I'm gonna make you a copy of that DJ SS tape I got. Whats up to all the San Jose junglists. Thanx for the water John. I thought I was gonna die after all the bowls we smoked. I was still high when I woke up!! Green Bud is the best bud!!! Right on man. Peace to the Liqiud Sky crew. Soulslinger & 1.8.7. are junglists to be heard. If you never heard them spin you really need to catch them some time. Lots of really intense D & B. I wish i could push the rewind button on life itself so I could re live last night a couple of MILLION times. FUCK, THAT PARTY WAS THE DOPEST. I hope i didn't forget any one. whats up DUH!!!! I hope you had fun at 1st Light. I hope everyone else had fun and stayed safe at 1st Light too. Peace to all junglists across the galaxy. See ya later!!! markis(junglejunkie) p.s. FLUX, GEMME MY REMIX lol From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 23:06:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24789 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 23:06:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 24781 invoked by uid 233); 16 May 1999 23:06:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 10216 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 22:59:14 -0000 Received: from email.sjsu.edu (130.65.3.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 May 1999 22:59:14 -0000 Received: from invitro.lightspeed.net (x130-65-210-22.sjsu.edu [130.65.210.22]) by email.sjsu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA02954 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 15:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <008c01be9f26$9d2565c0$16d24182@invitro.lightspeed.net> From: "n i c o" To: Subject: Review: Ethereal Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 15:59:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Damnit, I've never had so much fun working the door in all my life. The space itself was incredible. I think it's just a damn shame that this place is 21+ because it was spacious, clean, and there was plenty of room to dance. The music was awesome. The people running the place were kinda cool. Ok, so I'm a lightweight and was really drunk but I still remember most of what happened. The hangover I have right now is too painful to describe. I feel like I'm typing too loud and I was tempted to tell myself to keep it down. : | ((( l0ve always ))) Nico P.S. See you kids at First Light. : ) POSITIVEPOSITIVEPOSITIVEPOSITIVE POSITIVEPOSITIVEPOSITIVEPOSITIVE POSITIVEPOSITIVEPOSITIVEPOSITIVE nico@entic.net www.entic.net/~nico From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 23:17:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1178 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 23:17:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 1169 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 23:17:51 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 23:17:51 -0000 Received: from Fine19boy@aol.com (3939) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPSTa02625; Sun, 16 May 1999 19:17:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Fine19boy@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 19:17:02 EDT Subject: Re: Why Are You A Raver? To: BodhiInSF@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk my reason for being a raver is that a very close friend of mine introduced me to raving because she wanted me to go with her to somewhere were we could both have fun and be happy, and make other peeps happy just by being nice to them and dancing with them. she wanted to share an experience with me that neither of us will hopefully ever forget. i wont forget it im a raver because it makes me happy to be one. i dont think i am just a raver, but i am glad i can go to parties with peeps like the peeps on this list and forget my troubles for a few hours at least and see who can smile the biggest :) thats why i am a raver ~T From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 23:18:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1915 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 23:18:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 1905 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 23:18:36 -0000 Received: from web1002.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.92) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 23:18:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990516231836.14756.rocketmail@web1002.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.170.187.198] by web1002.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 16 May 1999 16:18:36 PDT Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 16:18:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Junglist Mikey Subject: Just wanted to let you know... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk for those of you that actually care. I have changed my address from chocolate976 because hotmail sucks a nut. Okay, i am done. this is my new one. JuNgLe_BiOtCh@yahoo.com PLUR and all that shiot. Mikey Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 23:23:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3568 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 23:23:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 3560 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 23:23:35 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 23:23:35 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA16405; Sun, 16 May 1999 16:23:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905162323.QAA16405@mail.netwiz.net> To: Paul*E*Wog Cc: "San FranDisco Ravers List" Subject: Re: Why are you a human? NRR In-reply-to: Your message of Sun, 16 May 1999 15:10:38 -0700 Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 16:23:29 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >I'd just like to remind some of you people that we are all humans in >this world... > >So... Why are you a human? Because i can't lick my balls. I think this is a corollary of the Peter Principle. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 23:46:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14483 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 23:46:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 14475 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 23:46:51 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 23:46:51 -0000 Received: from Macias20@aol.com (3877) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vTXAa19518 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 19:46:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Macias20@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 19:46:07 EDT Subject: First light... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey what's up? Is everyone having a nice cracked-out Sunday? i am :) just wanted to say that First LIght was the shit.. the Dj's rocked... the jungle room was soooooo tight too... Protolab did this sick ass mix.. and ive had it stuck in ma head for about 10 hours now...of course 2nd and crack was hot and stuffy, and i was buying water like it was my job and i got there a little late.. sorry Anton MUAH, but the atmosphere and vibe were great... the decorations in the main room were okay.. plenty of black lites tho so i was mad glowing :) and the fishies in the jungle room were a trip to look at when u were sitting in front of tha speakers taking in all of the phat beats...M&M were okay.. not the best ive heard them spin.. but nevertheless.. played my 2 fave songs and that made it all up... the happy kids made me shake ma bootie like ive never shaken it before, Andrei's techno/housy set was by far what made me jump up and down uncontrollably and by the way.. does anyone have a link to hear the remix of enjoy the silence by depeche mode.. id love to have that on ma winamp playlist...anEways overall, a tight party.. thanks Macadio, it was tha shit... thanx to all my friends that made me smile the whole night... and to all my friends who were with me that made me dance a little harder than i usually do.. Greg, i finally got to meet you.. ur awesome...SmilEy.. what would i do without you and ur little E tricks... Damn.. that was tha shit.. anyone that got a copy of what SmilEy was doing to me on tape.. LET ME KNOW... i couldnt exactly tell what he was doing...but he had me strapped to his back in front of the left speaker of the main room... well, u had to be there to see it.. but if anyone knows what im talking about.. email me privately.. thanks.. well, kiddies.. have a great cracked-out Sunday.. MUAH... valerie AKA sparkles From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 23:48:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15355 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 23:48:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 15346 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 23:48:38 -0000 Received: from law-f214.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.124) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 23:48:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 3705 invoked by uid 0); 16 May 1999 23:49:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19990516234920.3704.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.242.74 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 16 May 1999 16:49:19 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.242.74] From: "K Gray" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: do you have an alter? Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 16:49:19 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ALTAR ALTAR ALTAR ALTAR Unless we are discussing my alter ego as a Sunset District mom. My hair has been altered from blonde to red. K From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 23:49:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16450 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 23:49:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 16441 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 23:49:27 -0000 Received: from web801.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.61) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 23:49:27 -0000 Message-ID: <19990516235419.17232.rocketmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.188.192.41] by web801.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 16 May 1999 16:54:19 PDT Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 16:54:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: 1st light- - -confessin a feelin... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i love drum and bass music, its the best thing since grilled cheese, its unreal what it can do to a person. and the BASS kru, Oh MY!! I havent felt music like that in a while, amazing style, tunes that made me wanna melt right into the speaker, melt right into the floor, melt right into the bass, just melt all over the place. I walked over to the speaker, ya know since I was in the Jungle room and all I wanted to do was Pound my ass off to the incredible music, and feel the bass throughout, and what do i find? Puddles of peeps, just chillin, some even laying down, now wait wait wait wait a minute, CANT YOU HEAR THIS????? But i figured out how to move them, just start brockin out like no other, and watch them squirm away (literally) i must of cleared out 4 or 5 kids. Hak and Siphon at there best, two of my very favorite junglists. Major props to protolab for playing through the tech problems, and Max for reminding the place that it wasnt a library, it needed to be done :) I enjoyed the entire performance anyway, got to enjoy the nice fishies, and yellow submarine, and all the great decorations. I always look forward to seeing protolab, so i was stoked through it all. Thank you Micron Thank you so much for playin rob bass, that was unbelievable, brought back sooooo many memories, and created awesome energy in the crowd. I had to leave during Macadios set, but he had me dancin for the first time all night in the main room, too bad i couldnt stay till the end, I was having fun out there :) The decorations were wonderful, i could tell how much time and energy were put into them, they were made for our enjoyment, and were very beautiful. Theresa, thank goodness you share the love, what would I do without your presence in the jungle room? your turning 21 in sept. Wow, what a long review. great party macadio, congratulations, i look forward to the next one :) Jessica Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 16 23:57:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19576 invoked by uid 6000); 16 May 1999 23:57:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 19418 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 23:57:13 -0000 Received: from f149.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 1999 23:57:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 77751 invoked by uid 0); 16 May 1999 23:56:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19990516235646.77750.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.214.211.111 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 16 May 1999 16:56:46 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.214.211.111] From: "kurt vonnegut" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: DJ.symplex.......OH MY GAWSSSHHHHH!!!!!! Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 16:56:46 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk has anyone heard of DJ symplex? Oh My god!!!I just got a copy of his tape from a friend of mine.This guy is so good! IMHO the best new jungle DJ in the bay. My friend said he kicks it with dj Hak. is he in urban assault too? Promoters, hunt this guy down!!!!!!He's definitely worth it. kurt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 01:15:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18691 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 01:15:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 18668 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 01:15:27 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 01:15:27 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (3874) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3PMTa02834 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 21:14:55 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <5dab6bb9.2470c78f@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 21:14:55 EDT Subject: why I'm a raver To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm not a raver!! i'm goth... I wear all black and white face paint and I like being at raves because it's dark scary. just kidding... I'm too tired to post anything serious. I rave because I love the music and how fun it is to come together with friends to go to/put on/ be at a party. --diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 01:17:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20182 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 01:17:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 20095 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 01:17:47 -0000 Received: from web1006.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.96) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 01:17:47 -0000 Message-ID: <19990517011746.17329.rocketmail@web1006.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.170.187.232] by web1006.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 16 May 1999 18:17:46 PDT Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 18:17:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Junglist Mikey Subject: Fizzity-ormula blizzotch To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: sacraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Surgeon Generals Warning: For those of you that did not attend this pawty, the following review may cause extreme jealousy and possibly unhappy thoughts. LOL. Pro's 1. No candy kids. 2. The best Jungle tracks i have heard in a while. 3. Few to no drug dealers. 4. $1 water with a drinking fountain. 5. Great location. 6. Perfect number of people. 7. Tight dancers everywhere you turned. 8. Pleasant security 9. Excellent buffed danced floor. 10. No candy kids. And the list goes on...For days. Cons 1. It had to end. This party was the party to beat all parties. For everyone who made it out to First Light i am sorry that you missed out. No party can or could ever meeasure up to this one. Period. I hope to see you all at Metro where i will be groovin my Arse off yet again. And i f you dont know, now you now. "your everyday junglist" who is still ridin high. Mikey Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 01:27:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22261 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 01:27:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 22253 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 01:27:51 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 01:27:51 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (3874) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3LUVa05052 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 21:27:22 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <71cede33.2470ca79@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 21:27:21 EDT Subject: Finally Light.. but now it's sunset..... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It's been a looooooong weekend. First off... congratulations to Macadio and Tasha.... it finally happened... it took a year but you threw a dope ass First LIght that Didn't get busted. I hope all the stress and drama was worth it.... Did you like the set up?? did you???? The sequins on the wall and that LIGHTING was off the hook. The Fish and the submarine?? That my friends is what happens when you put EFFORT into a party. Lovely artwork.. Sometime during set up Amber and I stole the leftover sequins from the walls and made mermaid outfits for staff to wear. (That was me and Peter and amber out front in our sequin dresses if anyone was wondering) We even made a cape for ANdrei to wear during his set with a big white fur "a" on it, but he didn't wear it =( ANd Marty and Ian... where were yours??? OH well.. Great great fucking Jungle... I was in between being too tired to dance and being uncomfortable around people, so I wandered in and out of this room. Andrei was really incredible.. and I don't like Tekno that much.. so I was surprised how much i enjoyed his set... the mixing was a little off, though. Protolab was cool.. except for the sound problems... Anna did a great job singing over them for a while =) and Marty didn't play disco house!! WOW! that must hav taken a lot of self control, huh? ;) ;) And of course the man of the night... the Mack of Audio.. I haven't heard you spin in a long time but you were fucking AWESOME and played some of my favorite tracks... Good job. Two things i have confirmed about second and jackson.... I hate freeloading sketchers.... 'nuff said. I hate being cornered and groped.... can't say enough.... I also want to say that the way the speakers were set up in the main room was really impressive, and I guess these people did the same setup for Harmony, but it Keeps the sound VERY LOUD while keeping etarded kids away from bumping the tables... AND gives room for extra decorations. I hope everyone enjoyed themselves and macadio and tasha can destress now =) Then.. I went to Sunsets today... WAaaay far away in a beautiful... no, GORGEOUS park in Novato.... Like Leslie said, it looked like a chalk drawing from Mary Poppins that we'd somehow fallen into. I left pretty early, but managed to see a few people.. and I finally met Black Adder.. not that anyone would really care ;) Ok.. time to go back to bed.. hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 01:32:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25329 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 01:32:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 25320 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 01:32:40 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 01:32:40 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA27998; Sun, 16 May 1999 18:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905170132.SAA27998@mail.netwiz.net> To: Madhvi Dalal cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: SUPPORT H.R. 1658 TO REFORM FORFEITURE LAWS In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 14 May 1999 16:26:19 -0700 Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 18:32:33 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk [I previously posted this to my list "groovi-randoms@netwiz.net" but since we're talking about this here, I thought i'd forward this important message to SFR as well.] -------------------- Regarding http://www.drcnet.org/forfeiture/... There's a related local matter that deserves similar attention: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1999/05/11/MN22500.DTL So, while you're considering support of HR1658, also consider VOTING SF MAYOR WILLIE BROWN OUT OF OFFICE for ensuring that San Franciscans will be able to enjoy the kind of fascism normally reserved for places like Florida, Louisiana, Texas, or Alabama.... Earlier this week, Brown did his usual tyrannical regal decree, signalling his intent to apply the asset forfeiture cases to people caught for drug or vice violations in San Francisco. Brown claims he's sending a signal to people who come to SF from out of town to engage in illegal activities, -- by seizing their vehicles and possessions, even if they are not charged with a crime. This is straight-up unconstitutional and a complete violation of one's civil rights. The fact that the actions taken under civil forfeiture laws have not been successfully challenged in the Supreme Court proves once again that the US Constitution is being given the same level of respect as a big hunk of toilet paper. You don't have to be a lawyer to understand the two obvious constitutional violations being imposed by these laws: (1) The constitution expressly limits "double jeapordy" for criminal convictions, i.e. that it's not appropriate to convict and sentence someone to jail or probation AND also punish them with asset seisure; (2) For cases where criminal court prosecutors cannot convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt, a suspect will be penalized with asset forfeiture regardless of their guilt (aka, being deprived of life, liberty and property without due process of law). These clear civil rights violations by the government appear to be happening without any successful challenges, either in civil or criminal courts. To me, this is mighty reminiscent of the days where no legal challenges were permitted against the McCarthy commision on unamerican activities; and, also, for the incarceration of Japanese Americans in concentration camps during WWII, while the government profited from illegally seizing and reselling Japanese-American property, including significant amounts of California farm-land. At least in the latter, a civil class-action case was won, and trivial reparations were paid. Of course, this only happened after most of the victims were long dead. ANYWAYS... PLEASE USE WHATEVER LITTLE POWER YOU HAVE LEFT AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT WILLIE BROWN STANDS FOR: FASCISM UNDER THE GUISE OF THE "WAR ON DRUGS." PLEASE DON'T VOTE FOR HIM, AND PLEASE, TELL EVERYBODY YOU CAN TO NOT VOTE FOR HIM DUE TO HIS STAND ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE. PS: To me, the issue is not about drugs at all, it's about upholding the constitution, and about ensuring that nobody's civil rights are violated by the government. PPS: An obvious corollary to the problem is that police are now motivated to plant evidence or file false reports in order to seize assets. The possibility of corruption is increased tremendously because the money from seisures flows straight back to the local police department, who reward officers that make the most seisures with cash bonuses and perks. (For another bit of interesting SF cop-corruption, check this one: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/examiner/hotnews/stories/13/insurance.dtl ) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 01:34:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26846 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 01:34:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 26815 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 01:34:09 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 01:34:09 -0000 Received: from SaMiENiTTy@aol.com (7804) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLAGa16142 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 21:33:25 -0400 (EDT) From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Message-ID: <156f8ed3.2470cbe4@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 21:33:24 EDT Subject: random thoughts... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk so after my friend was done getting sick off of tacobell, she fianlly convinced me that i need to go out tonight and have fun. not for just myself, but her also. i wanted to go to sac for "children of the night" but it was too late. so, off to reno i go!... i knew this was going to be an awesome night whether vibe lacked or not. in my own opinion, the party is what you make it. i met some really cool sfravers there too. *whats up guys!* they showed me a great night. thank you thank you thank you!... met some really cool people altogether. i met one of the most wonderful, beautiful, spiritual girls. this girl is amazing. she has a heart of gold...and this morning... she shined with her beauty and gave her love to all of us surrounding her. i'll see her again someday. and meeting someone you truly click with and see eye to eye in so many different subjects, it's just so beautiful. i'm happy right now. content with myself for the first time in a long while. too long actually. finally feeling like i can express myself and not care what others think of me, because, i make me happy. and i will not let anyone destroy that power. this is a power you possess within your soul. you just need to find it. its already there...if you search... you might find it. but, it may come to you on its own. mine came to me. i was ready. i was ready to experience this. in many ways, i believe i have blossomed. blossomed from a girl....to a woman.....ready to face any relationship. ready to see anything. i'm just waiting now... love will come to me. i feel this in my heart, for i know this is true...... ~Samantha....love to you all. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 01:37:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29287 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 01:37:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 29275 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 01:37:31 -0000 Received: from sparky.inasec.ca (@207.176.144.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 01:37:31 -0000 Received: from a3a46569 (dnai-216-15-121-123.dialup.dnai.com [216.15.121.123]) by sparky.inasec.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA07955 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 21:38:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by a3a46569 with Microsoft Mail id <01BE9FCD.6339FF90@a3a46569>; Sun, 16 May 1999 18:53:29 -0700 Message-ID: <01BE9FCD.6339FF90@a3a46569> From: Martin Soukup To: "'sfraves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: RE: why I'm a raver Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 18:53:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Raving to me is a whole way of life. Parties are just the rites that keep the wicked vibes alive and strong 8o) -----Original Message----- From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com [SMTP:TeKnODiVa@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, May 16, 1999 6:15 PM To: SFraves@hyperreal.org Subject: why I'm a raver I'm not a raver!! i'm goth... I wear all black and white face paint and I like being at raves because it's dark scary. just kidding... I'm too tired to post anything serious. I rave because I love the music and how fun it is to come together with friends to go to/put on/ be at a party. --diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 01:41:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2868 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 01:41:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 2786 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 01:41:33 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 01:41:33 -0000 Received: from Macias20@aol.com (542) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vEAVa05662 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 21:38:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Macias20@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 21:38:45 EDT Subject: this is why i rave.... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk DEAR FELLOW RAVER... DO YOU REMEMBER? DO YOU REMEMBER WHY WE AREHERE? We the people from all backgrounds and colors and created equal, tonight peacefully assemble to dance. To celebrate life, to share our love and to bond with each other. We come to unify people through music, leaving our attitudes outside, and to show courtesy and respect for other's individuality, and for ourselves. Tonight, turn around and share a smile... make a friend. Please open yourself and welcome others. Please be kind to those strangers around you, and be your brother's keeper. Please take responsability and care of yourselves and others, but also of the land where we are guests. Please share the beauty of your spirit with all of us. We are the children of the millenium. It is up to you to make this a beautiful night worth remembering. It is in you hands. Have lots of fun, be safe... enjoy the music, and dance... Dance you butt off!!!! Let your spirit glow. This is why we rave MUAH VALERIE AKA sPaRkLes :) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 02:08:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15283 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 02:08:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 15267 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 02:08:09 -0000 Received: from web219.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.119) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 02:08:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990517021022.9151.rocketmail@web219.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.62.136.110] by web219.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 16 May 1999 19:10:22 PDT Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 19:10:22 -0700 (PDT) From: C H E P S T E R Reply-To: chep_plur@yahoo.com Subject: Review of my finding in RENO To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello Everyone, and yes, I am also cracked out this Sunday morning. It is almost inevitable that we all share this same experience when journeying to a rave over the weekend. Rather it be local, another state, or even a distance galaxy we all end up 99.9 % utitlized. So, now we must defrag and everyone knows how long defragmentation takes. But, still there is always that one lost cluster that bugs you for the week. My lost cluster is this beautiful person I met over the weekend. Her name is Samantha. Hella-cool, hella-tight, hella-dancer and if you are reading this Samantha, sorry I didn't see sail away to Carson City w/ your little dented side. I would have very much like to see you off and exchange info, but oh well. Review of "in the beginning" Oh my god, this rave had the potential to explode and launch Reno into another dimension. The lights, the sound, the environment, it was all there, but no local kids to be scene. Come on people, suport your scene, even if twenty dollars is a little too much for a Reno rave, this one was all worth it. I would have paid thirty to get in just to see UV99 trip my entire world. Never seen such a clean dance floor, it was almost like heaven, my friends and I were pretending to make angels on the dance floor, that's how clean it was. (You can't do that at 2nd and Crackson) Overall, I had a wonderful time in Reno, besides losing thirteen hundred on the stupid roulette. If you guys ever go to Reno for a Rave, don't go towards the lights. Its pure evil. And I'll say it again..... Hell yeah I'm going back to Reno Mad Props to Platinum Studio and Gallery for an excellent event. Don't worry to much about this event. You guys/gals have good karma. What comes around, goes around. You will make it up. Brandon, your the best man, thanks for letting my crew kick it at your pad, and much love to ya bro. Your familia now and you know it. C-ya soon CHEP === In case I don't see you...... good afternoon.... good evening.... good night.... chep_plur@yahoo.com Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 03:25:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15996 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 03:25:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 15988 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 03:25:36 -0000 Received: from f12.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.23) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 03:25:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 311 invoked by uid 0); 17 May 1999 03:25:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990517032508.310.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 153.36.254.143 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 16 May 1999 20:25:08 PDT X-Originating-IP: [153.36.254.143] From: "Natasha 426" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Help? Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 20:25:08 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone seen or heard from Marty (aka "BigM009") since the Ethereal party??? He seems to have $1500 of mine and suddenly he's nowhere to be found. thanks, natasha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 03:31:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20345 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 03:31:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 20336 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 03:31:14 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 03:31:14 -0000 Received: from Naomi0211@aol.com (551) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJNEa16144 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 23:29:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Naomi0211@aol.com Message-ID: <69c397b4.2470e70e@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 23:29:18 EDT Subject: Weekend Review - Ethereal & Tha Formula To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_69c397b4.2470e70e_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_69c397b4.2470e70e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Friday night!! I wasn't even planning on going to Ethereal, until I heard that my boy Megatron was spinning there!! So then I had to show up. Then I heard that Marty was throwing the party!! Even better! First we had to stop in Berkeley and pick up Scott, Angela and Megatron...aka...Mike! Then off to 550 Barnevald. I had never been to this location before, and I must say, it is PHAT!! It's really laid out good, I loved the Ambient room, how it was overlooking the trance room. Anyway. I mostly stayed in the Jungle room!! There were so many people from SFR there, I couldn't believe it!! I met a lot of cool people that night. I didn't get to actually meet AndyW, but I finally got to see him. He was ripping up the dance floor too!! LOL And Jess ica, What's up girl? DUH was on the Mic and off the hook!! I always enjoy hearing him MC! Congrats, Science, for finishing your law school!! (I think that's what you told me, anyway!) Megatron's set was the dopest! I was very impressed with the tracks he played and his mixing skills. Although I guess I don't know much about spinning, I do know what I like. And I really enjoyed his set. One of the security guards gave me some No-Doz when he caught me sleeping!! LOL I was very awake until last night!! I have never been that damn awake in a long time, it was such a weird feeling. Anyway, Congratulations, Marty, for throwing such a great party!! I had a lot of fun there, and I was really comfortable! I felt like I was hanging out with a bunch of really close friends all night. It was great. I hope your *plan* works out for you! I'd surely BE THERE!! Saturday.... My boyfriend, Markis, and I met John (the coolest cat of them all!!) at this great veggie chinese place in Berkeley before Tha Formula. It was great. I didn't think John would really like it, but he did!! YAY Then we went to Compound Records to pick up that new 4-pack tape...I think it's called Hardware or something!! It's DOPE!! I haven't even listened to all of them yet, but from what I have heard it's GREAT! It was recorded live in London, with a few MC's too. We also got the DJ SS tape, which I've heard and fallen in love with!! It was recorded live at Nikita and it's off the hook. He plays all the dope ass beats on that tape! Anyway, this is not a tape review, so I'll shut up about that now. Tha Formula was OFF THE HOOK!! At first I thought that no one was going to show up, since First Light also had a cool lineup and it was an all ages party. The security at Tha Formula was NOT letting anyone in under 18, so I'm sure tons of kids got turned away. (Next time, please put that one the FLYER so people know!!) At first I was down in the basement for a while. When I came back upstairs it was PACKED!! I was like "Where did all these people come from?!?" LOL There was this one DJ, I think his name was Soul Slinger, I was LOVING HIS SET!! He was so fucking dope. I really enjoyed his set. I wish he was a SF Junglist!! 1.8.7. played (of course) the BEST set that night!! I didn't stay upstairs for all of it (I got sooo tired, and had to sit down!) but I heard most of it and it was GREAT!! It's so refreshing to see female Jungle DJ's that are that dope!! Well, I had a great weekend!! Even though I couldn't get to sleep at all on Friday night/morning (I got about 4 hours sleep total, thanks to those damn no-doz pills!!) I had so much fun!! I wish there were parties like that every weekend!! I had more fun at 550 Barnevald though, because of the atmosphere, I felt like I was hanging out with old friends, but the music at Tha Formula was most DEFINITELY better!! Well kids, I'm out!! Naomi Thompson --part1_69c397b4.2470e70e_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: Naomi0211@aol.com From: Naomi0211@aol.com Full-name: Naomi0211 Message-ID: <69c397b4.2470db0b@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 22:38:03 EDT Subject: Weekend Review - Ethereal & Tha Formula To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Friday night!! I wasn't even planning on going to Ethereal, until I heard that my boy Megatron was spinning there!! So then I had to show up. Then I heard that Marty was throwing the party!! Even better! First we had to stop in Berkeley and pick up Scott, Angela and Megatron...aka...Mike! Then off to 550 Barnevald. I had never been to this location before, and I must say, it is PHAT!! It's really laid out good, I loved the Ambient room, how it was overlooking the trance room. Anyway. I mostly stayed in the Jungle room!! There were so many people from SFR there, I couldn't believe it!! I met a lot of cool people that night. I didn't get to actually meet AndyW, but I finally got to see him. He was ripping up the dance floor too!! LOL And Jess ica, What's up girl? DUH was on the Mic and off the hook!! I always enjoy hearing him MC! Congrats, Science, for finishing your law school!! (I think that's what you told me, anyway!) Megatron's set was the dopest! I was very impressed with the tracks he played and his mixing skills. Although I guess I don't know much about spinning, I do know what I like. And I really enjoyed his set. One of the security guards gave me some No-Doz when he caught me sleeping!! LOL I was very awake until last night!! I have never been that damn awake in a long time, it was such a weird feeling. Anyway, Congratulations, Marty, for throwing such a great party!! I had a lot of fun there, and I was really comfortable! I felt like I was hanging out with a bunch of really close friends all night. It was great. I hope your *plan* works out for you! I'd surely BE THERE!! Saturday.... My boyfriend, Markis, and I met John (the coolest cat of them all!!) at this great veggie chinese place in Berkeley before Tha Formula. It was great. I didn't think John would really like it, but he did!! YAY Then we went to Compound Records to pick up that new 4-pack tape...I think it's called Hardware or something!! It's DOPE!! I haven't even listened to all of them yet, but from what I have heard it's GREAT! It was recorded live in London, with a few MC's too. We also got the DJ SS tape, which I've heard and fallen in love with!! It was recorded live at Nikita and it's off the hook. He plays all the dope ass beats on that tape! Anyway, this is not a tape review, so I'll shut up about that now. Tha Formula was OFF THE HOOK!! At first I thought that no one was going to show up, since First Light also had a cool lineup and it was an all ages party. The security at Tha Formula was NOT letting anyone in under 18, so I'm sure tons of kids got turned away. (Next time, please put that one the FLYER so people know!!) At first I was down in the basement for a while. When I came back upstairs it was PACKED!! I was like "Where did all these people come from?!?" LOL There was this one DJ, I think his name was Soul Slinger, I was LOVING HIS SET!! He was so fucking dope. I really enjoyed his set. I wish he was a SF Junglist!! 1.8.7. played (of course) the BEST set that night!! I didn't stay upstairs for all of it (I got sooo tired, and had to sit down!) but I heard most of it and it was GREAT!! It's so refreshing to see female Jungle DJ's that are that dope!! Well, I had a great weekend!! Even though I couldn't get to sleep at all on Friday night/morning (I got about 4 hours sleep total, thanks to those damn no-doz pills!!) I had so much fun!! I wish there were parties like that every weekend!! I had more fun at 550 Barnevald though, because of the atmosphere, I felt like I was hanging out with old friends, but the music at Tha Formula was most DEFINITELY better!! Well kids, I'm out!! Naomi Thompson --part1_69c397b4.2470e70e_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 03:35:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22136 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 03:35:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 22128 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 03:35:34 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 03:35:34 -0000 Received: from CanContrl@aol.com (578) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vOPPa26068; Sun, 16 May 1999 23:34:24 -0400 (EDT) From: CanContrl@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 23:34:23 EDT Subject: Re: Weekend Review - Ethereal & Tha Formula To: Naomi0211@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk u do know that he/she was once a man right? just checkin...hehe dean* << 1.8.7. played (of course) the BEST set that night!! I didn't stay upstairs for all of it (I got sooo tired, and had to sit down!) but I heard most of it and it was GREAT!! It's so refreshing to see female Jungle DJ's that are that dope!! >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 05:59:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15749 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 05:59:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 15735 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 05:59:26 -0000 Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 05:59:26 -0000 Received: from best.com ([216.132.92.5]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id WAA17245; Sun, 16 May 1999 22:55:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <373FAF37.F15A95F2@best.com> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 22:55:03 -0700 From: just jer Organization: @spire X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Laalkuchaa@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: E testing References: <57c59e74.247082f1@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You can test for E in blood or urine, however I don't believe typical drug testing does this. MDMA has a half life of 6 hours, which means after you take E, 6 hours later, half of it is out of your system or has been metabolized. Then 6 hours later, half of the half that's left is gone. and so on and so forth. what I'm getting at is... you hardcore e-tards! drink your piss! =) j/k be safe, jer Laalkuchaa@aol.com wrote: > > Gotta few questions... > > Can you test for e in urine or just blood... how long does it stay in your > system.. blood and urine.... > > Thanks for the help.. > > Laal From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 07:06:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10975 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 07:06:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 10967 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 07:06:18 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 07:06:18 -0000 Received: from NavySatan@aol.com (14451) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHJBa04195 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 03:05:36 -0400 (EDT) From: NavySatan@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 03:05:35 EDT Subject: (nrr) Parker Lewis Can't Lose To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Please help... I wouldn't normally ask but I just didn't know where to turn to. Please help me, but does anyone have any resource info on the late 80's/early 90's TV Show "Parker Lewis Can't Lose"... Web Sites, Video Archives, Magazines or Books... give it to me... send it to me... want my address???? IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER!!! -ok- Desperately Seeking Parker... NastyAssedKingofSFRNavySatan From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 08:45:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7080 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 08:45:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 6919 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 08:45:03 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 08:45:03 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-p1 (mmf16.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.86]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA13193; Mon, 17 May 1999 01:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905170845.BAA13193@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: chep_plur@yahoo.com From: "Rafie" Subject: RE: Review of my finding in RENO CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 01:47:19 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Sounds like someone did too much acid this weekend. Rafie PS Paul*E*Wog has ADD and hyperactivity disorder...it's confirmed On Sun, 16 May 1999 19:10:22 -0700 (PDT), chep_plur@yahoo.com wrote... >Hello Everyone, > >and yes, I am also cracked out this Sunday morning. >It is almost inevitable that we all share this same >experience when journeying to a rave over the weekend. > Rather it be local, another state, or even a distance >galaxy we all end up 99.9 % utitlized. So, now we >must defrag and everyone knows how long >defragmentation takes. But, still there is always >that one lost cluster that bugs you for the week. My >lost cluster is this beautiful person I met over the >weekend. Her name is Samantha. Hella-cool, >hella-tight, hella-dancer and if you are reading this > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 12:04:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17039 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 12:04:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 17031 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 12:04:28 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 12:04:28 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.202] (libya-202.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.202]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA09978; Mon, 17 May 1999 05:03:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 05:24:13 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Mon) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello...today's quote is... While each of us...has depressed hours, none of us needs to be a depressed person. ---Henry Emerson Fosdick ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 12:04:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17467 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 12:04:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 17317 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 12:04:36 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 12:04:36 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.202] (libya-202.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.202]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA10091 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 05:04:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 05:26:26 -0700 To: Enchanted Broccoli Ravers From: Deepfog Subject: AndyW dancing in cages? Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i thought i saw andyw doing some dirty dancing this weekend in them cages at 550 barnevald. =] there were a few other suspects, however i didn't know who they were. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 14:55:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 495 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 14:55:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 483 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 14:55:48 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 14:55:48 -0000 Received: from [192.68.228.2] (HELO mattdntbusapp) by mogwaicom.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 2.9b5) with SMTP id 641782; Mon, 17 May 1999 07:56:59 -0700 Message-ID: <012c01bea075$64525e10$162b0a0a@efi.com> From: To: , , References: Subject: Re: Why Are You A Raver? Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 07:56:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You go to parties to get some, but you now realize you ain't gettin none!!! hahaha j/k (or maybe i'm not!) vipassana ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Sunday, May 16, 1999 1:02 PM Subject: Re: Why Are You A Raver? > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > I go to parties to get some. I dance at parties to get some. I buy clothes to > go to parties to get some. I eat to look healthy to go to parties to get > some. I was born to go to parties to get some. Hell, I can't be choosing > which chick I get with, I just need to get some. Oh, yeah, I also go to > spread the love of Mother Earth and Brother Man by getting with peeps. > > the born-again-virgin poser > bboibreks > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 15:24:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13250 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 15:24:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 13242 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 15:24:04 -0000 Received: from law-f155.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.218) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 15:24:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 40746 invoked by uid 0); 17 May 1999 15:23:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990517152336.40745.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.113.171.115 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 17 May 1999 08:23:35 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.113.171.115] From: "trancebaby_ NBC" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: big 'ol BSP--> DISCOVERY!!!!!! Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 08:23:35 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk So here I go Again!!! doin' up in the way it should be!!! hahahahah! this party is set to go off!!!!, after the success of last month's event we are doing it again, so come on up here and dance!!!!! DISCOVERY----> Wednesday, May 26th 1999 . . . . . . . . Harmonics presents--------> DISCOVERY Li- Harmony, viberation (his first appearance since oct!) Ryan Wilber (NBC, SPARKLE, VORG) Greg Sandler (Harmony, Harmonics) Gianni (Harmonics, VORG, Release) Mac (Harmony, Harmonics, NBC) J-BOT (Harmony, Harmonics, NBC) Sean Norton (Mission to Mondays) Urn (Harmonics, Sparkle, NBC, Harmony) Logik (NBC, Sparkle, ASR, Children of the Sun ) 20,000 watt sound system taking you away from it all from 9pm -4am. . . $7 cover, 18 and over. . . . the party's at the corner of 5th and Davis streets in Santa Rosa. . . I would like to thank all of you that came out last time and would like to invite you back for another special event in the Northbay. you are the one's who make the party so come out with your big smiles and happy vibes and lets show these north bay kids what it's all about. . . I must apologize about the discrepency in the cover charge. . .my graphic artist didn't get the numbers right, but hey it's only $2 more so what the hey! right?? this event is happening the first week of summer for many and during finals week for other's. I hope that you can all come out and show your support and keep us going strong into summer. . . I can't wait to see you there smilin' !!!!!!! Peace and Love Raoul trancebaby. . . . . Love ya all!!!!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 16:21:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25028 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 16:21:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 25019 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 16:21:54 -0000 Received: from jeter.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 16:21:54 -0000 Received: from godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.42]) by jeter.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id MAA24458; Mon, 17 May 1999 12:15:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA01588; Mon, 17 May 1999 12:15:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 12:15:55 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: sorry but i'm getting angry now Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i am not usually the kind of person to get riled up about things, but i am getting very annoyed at the people on this list who keep sending these frodulant spam e-mails about receiving money for doing some stupid task. no one gives money away for free like that! money is too much of a wanted commodity in our world to be giving it away just for sending an e-mail to someone. now we've had two poeple send things like this to the list so far, and now we have someone else trying to get around the technicalities of sending this e-mail to the list by sending it individually to everyone on the list. if you are on sfraves and didn't recieve a forward from a gordo136g@aol.com then i could be mistaken but all the e-mail addresses the spam e-mail was sent to are all ones i recognize from this list. i'm not one to come out and bitch about things all the time, because that's for people who can't relax and just enjoy life, but this is making me very mad. i have freinds from all over the united states that still insist on sending me stupid e-mails like these (and i don't get angry at them because they are my friends) but i don't enjoy recieving stuff like this from poeple i don't know. i don't take crap like this from companies who some how get my e-mail address to send me ads, and i'm not going to take it here. have the company who is giving this money away call me and tell me they will actually pay me and then you can send me the e-mail, but until then, respect your list members. if you think poeple are not going to want to read something, don't send it, and don't try to be a smart ass and send it to each individual and not to sfraves. aquarians can be the best friends you'll ever have, but cross them and you'll find yourself running from the worst fucking enemy you ever met. i hope i am finished here. amber --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 16:24:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27282 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 16:24:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 27262 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 16:24:08 -0000 Received: from law-f68.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.131) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 16:24:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 42115 invoked by uid 0); 17 May 1999 16:23:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19990517162341.42114.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.113.171.114 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 17 May 1999 09:23:39 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.113.171.114] From: "trancebaby_ NBC" To: andy@saturn5.com, dj_boywonder@hotmail.com, isaacl@divi.com, Ravergrl27@aol.com, laraz@hyperreal.org, macadio@hotmail.com, TeKnODiVa@aol.com, goodvibe@geocities.com, ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org, rayvonie@ix.netcom.com, X2Nyte@aol.com Subject: more DAYSHINE for our lives!!!!!! Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:23:39 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk DAYSHINE---------> Sun. May 23 12pm to 5pm Downtown Santa Rosa one wee hour from SF!!!!! well worth the drive. . . . . Ryan Wilber (NBC) URN (NBC, Harmony) Sean Norton (Mission to Mondays) Zack Darling (Lightseed) this is an outdoor event that will be held in downtown Santa Rosa on sunday afternoon so come out and bring your fresh smiling faces out to this daytime groove event. . . . see you there !!! peace and love Raoul trancebaby . . . From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 16:26:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 213 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 16:26:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 29813 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 16:26:15 -0000 Received: from law-f181.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.244) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 16:26:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 71592 invoked by uid 0); 17 May 1999 16:25:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990517162544.71591.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.113.171.114 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 17 May 1999 09:25:44 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.113.171.114] From: "trancebaby_ NBC" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: oops ....phone number for discovery . . Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:25:44 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk sorry about that one guys . . . .707.571.8747 this is the number for now a new one is coming. . . From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 16:30:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5378 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 16:30:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 5363 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 16:29:59 -0000 Received: from law-f84.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.147) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 16:29:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 47507 invoked by uid 0); 17 May 1999 16:29:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19990517162932.47506.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.113.171.114 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 17 May 1999 09:29:32 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.113.171.114] From: "trancebaby_ NBC" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: more DAYSHINE for our lives!!!!!! Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:29:32 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk DAYSHINE---------> Sun. May 23 12pm to 5pm Downtown Santa Rosa From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 16:44:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15497 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 16:44:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 15486 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 16:44:31 -0000 Received: from law-f142.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.205) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 16:44:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 81529 invoked by uid 0); 17 May 1999 16:44:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19990517164404.81528.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.113.171.114 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 17 May 1999 09:44:03 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.113.171.114] From: "trancebaby_ NBC" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: BSP more DAYSHINE for our lives!!!!!! Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:44:03 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk DAYSHINE---------> Sun. May 23 12pm to 5pm Downtown Santa Rosa Ryan Wilber (NBC) URN (NBC, Harmonics) Sean Norton (mission to mondays) Zack Darling (Lightseed) this event is going to be held in beautiful downtown santa rosa and is only a small drive from sf. !!!! it is well worth it believe me!!!!! it's freee it's outdoors it's summer now!!!!! at least for me!!! peace and Love raoul trnacebaby From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 16:51:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20063 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 16:51:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 20043 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 16:51:02 -0000 Received: from law-f122.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.185) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 16:51:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 843 invoked by uid 0); 17 May 1999 16:50:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19990517165035.842.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.113.171.114 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 17 May 1999 09:50:35 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.113.171.114] From: "trancebaby_ NBC" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: BSP DAYSHINE oops AGAIN!!! Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:50:35 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk AND HERE'S THE NUMBER 707. 523.8656 DAYSHINE---------> Sun. May 23 12pm to 5pm Downtown Santa Rosa Ryan Wilber (NBC) URN (NBC, Harmonics) Sean Norton (mission to mondays) Zack Darling (Lightseed) this event is going to be held in beautiful downtown santa rosa and is only a small drive from sf. !!!! it is well worth it believe me!!!!! it's freee it's outdoors it's summer now!!!!! at least for me!!! peace and Love raoul trnacebaby From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 16:51:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21385 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 16:51:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 21362 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 16:51:55 -0000 Received: from web806.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 16:51:54 -0000 Message-ID: <19990517165052.28118.rocketmail@web806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web806.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 17 May 1999 09:50:52 PDT Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:50:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: Quick review of Etheral. To: Jessica Webster , Nuku Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >It sounded like a perfect night, and I fucking love >Barneveld (even >with >the overpriced bar) and really want to get to know >y'all better! I would have to say that sfraves definately represented that night, everyone i met was on sfraves, everybody i wanted to meet, I met. it was awesome, i totally missed your presence Jessica, you would have loved it. I think Barneveld is awesome too, cages, you just cant beat that! Next time, the Jessicas will have to unite for a nice evening of drinkin and dancin, lets see if they can handle us... Love, Jessica --- Jessica Webster wrote: > Whimper, whine... > > Thanks for representing team Jessica last night, in > rare Jess ica style! > > I swear I'll get to dance with your bad self, soon, > but last night was a > really tough decision I had to stand by - > > I had my last session of a 2 1/2 YEAR run with my > very favorite tattoo > artist - we're trying to finish up my right arm, and > ran late, and *didn't* > finish so it looks like I'll be taking ink-vacations > soon - and figured it > was a good idea to tend to this precious ink > carefully as there will be > *no* opportunity for touch ups. Oozing inevitable > toxins and sweat thru > fresh scraped flesh is just a recipe for scarring... > > Plus, if I'd been there I'd have rubbed up against > you and gotten ink and > lymph fluid and blood all over you and that would be > decidedly unfriendly! > > Sigh... > > It sounded like a perfect night, and I fucking love > Barneveld (even with > the overpriced bar) and really want to get to know > y'all better! > > Love, > > Jessica > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 16:53:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23726 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 16:53:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 23715 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 16:53:45 -0000 Received: from jmail.co.jp (HELO calvin.iac.co.jp) (209.85.120.230) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 16:53:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 6057 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 16:53:51 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO jmail.co.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 May 1999 16:53:51 -0000 From: "Chris" Reply-to: prototype@raveaddict.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:53:51 GST -1080 Subject: Stealing WATER?!? Message-id: <3740499f.17a7.0@jmail.co.jp> X-User-Info: 171.133.216.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What the fuck? What is the rave scene coming to? I was at First Light last weekend. I set two water bottles down next to a couple that was otherwise occupied while I danced with some friends. Someone came by and asked the couple if he could fill his spritzer from the bottles. I came over and told them they were mine, so he asks me if he can fill his spritzer, and as I hand him one of the bottles, the guy that was sitting down tries to be smooth and picks up a bottle and sets it behind himself and his g/f. I see the whole thing, but I don't say anything yet. After the guy fills his spritzer, I say, "Where's the other bottle?" Spritzer boy says, "What do you mean?" "There were two bottles here." We look around, Sly just sits there acting all innocent. Spritzer boy says, "I think one of them has it." Sly pretends to look around. Only when I say "I think it's back here," and start to look behind Sly, does he bring it out. Doesn't say a word, just sets it down. Where do these assholes come from? If Sly is reading this, please do me and every other RESPECTABLE raver a favor, and stay the FUCK away from our scene. Stealing someone's WATER?!? Right in front of them?!? I mean... What the fuck?... Geez... some people have such nerve... Hate to come off so negatively, but I was seriously pissed off. Aside from that incident, First Light kicked serious ass. A bit crowded, but I think the place was set up nicer than any other recent 2nd & Jax party I've been to. -=The Prototypical Prototype=- >><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>>< Get your FRESH, FREE, FUNKY email account at http://www.MUSICOSM.com! Visit today! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 17:05:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2660 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 17:05:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 2631 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 17:04:58 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 17:04:58 -0000 Message-ID: <19990517164756.3455.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.170.3.152] by web1; Mon, 17 May 1999 09:47:56 PDT Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:47:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Joaqman Subject: thanks a bunch from RedRoom... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i just wanted to give a big thank you for the onederful feeling that was brought by everyone that attended the RedRoom last friday. i saw lotso peeple that have become closer and closer. when i took out my magic looking glass i saw and michael and dave and sarah and owen and joe and sarood and virginia and dave w. and bj and gabe and josh and sensei and david and lautaro and tito and rebecca and many many more... the sound was great for this lil spot near ashby. thanks Jay, aka Budless Bundy. let's do it again. the dj's were magnificent!!! rebecca tore it up and bloom ripped it some more! then tasho slammed that sh*t down! and then the men in blue came...... sorrry about that..... that's when the main sound left, but there was plenty more cuz just five minutes later. the back-up sound started up and we were treated to the soundz of John Rodriguez. I feel like Jack London when i say to promoters, "Book him Danno". John gave a marvelous performance and stayed really late. thanks John. then i, jonas robledo, being of un-sound body and mind (hey, come on it was fuggin' 5am), took the decks and really rilly played house. o.k. there was one cari lekebusch trak, but it's a housier gentler tekno. after i just about literally fell ova, my boy JD, all the way from Lost Angels continued the house vibe and then stopped!!! ded. drum & bass began to fill the room or was it one of my vivd dreems? no matter, i, with the other head strong continued to move and then we all fell down at about 7:30......whewwww. needless to say i slept and dreamt about me, you and the one that is everything..... kung-felt thanks you cybertropic thanks you 5 families thanks you, thanks you you, joaqman, can't believe it's monday alreddy. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 17:09:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4352 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 17:09:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 4344 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 17:09:48 -0000 Received: from jmail.co.jp (HELO calvin.iac.co.jp) (209.85.120.230) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 17:09:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 10201 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 17:09:58 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO jmail.co.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 May 1999 17:09:58 -0000 From: "Chris" Reply-to: prototype@raveaddict.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:09:58 GST -1080 Subject: Why? Message-id: <37404d66.27d7.0@jmail.co.jp> X-User-Info: 171.133.216.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Why am I a raver? Is it the music, drugs, great people? I'd have to say (D) All of the above. The music: Nowhere else can you find such powerful and moving music played at such a volume that it really IS moving. The music is incredible. Also, I can only afford to buy so many tapes, and I'm collecting vinyl now, so I don't really buy ANY tapes, and I only get to listen to a good variety of music at a rave. The drugs: I've recently really toned down my drug use. I don't even buy bud during the week, and not so much even for parties, but I do E at almost every party. The rave environment is just so drug-friendly, with all the great day-glo decorations and such. I rarely bring weed to a rave, buy I always get SUPER smoked. Plus, you can just chill and toke wherever you want. The people: The MAIN reason I rave. I meet the most open-minded and friendly people at raves, and since we're all ravers, we share similar philosophies, tastes in music, ideas about the world and each other, etc. It's just so comfortable and easy to relate to people at raves, and everyone is ready and willing to just be the best friend to everyone else (well, ALMOST everyone is ready). Raving has changed my life for the better. -=Chris, the Prototypical Prototype=- >><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>>< Get your FRESH, FREE, FUNKY email account at http://www.MUSICOSM.com! Visit today! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 17:12:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7239 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 17:12:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 7190 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 17:12:48 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 17:12:48 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-183.dsp.com [204.118.76.183]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA02089; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:12:28 -0700 Message-Id: <199905171712.KAA02089@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:11:00 -0700 To: prototype@raveaddict.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: Stealing WATER?!? In-Reply-To: <3740499f.17a7.0@jmail.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Not only is that just SO WRONG because he might have been putting you in danger of floating off to dehydration-land (try that at Burning Man and I'd *personally* turn you in to the Sheriff), but - What if you'd snuck something you figured was yummy that was potentially freaky to someone else into your bottle? What if you have herpes? Duh! People, don't take other people's water. You just don't know what might lurk in there, or where it may have been. For that matter, as much of a social niceity as it may be to share water, as lovely a gesture, it's a good idea to only share water with someone you'd have unprotected sex with, rully - and hopefully that ain't just some random stranger... Nurse Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 17:40:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25585 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 17:40:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 25394 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 17:40:45 -0000 Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (209.185.123.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 17:40:45 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by angelfire.com; Mon May 17 10:40:07 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:40:07 -0700 From: "Electric Joy Boy" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: on Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Bay to Breakers & Chemistry X-Sender-Ip: 206.66.135.218 Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Started off my sunday w/ Bay to Breakers... what a rush! NO my lazy ass didn't run in bay to breakers but I ended up having a few friends over for a champagne brunch/breakfast to party and support the runners going by my window. It was the perfect excuse to blast Happy Hardcore and Hi NRG Eurocheez out the window at 8 AM to help the runners up the hill :) Then we eventually ended up going to Chemistry in San Jose. Does any one know the name of the DJ that was spinning outside from approx. 5-6:30? she was a bad ass and facilitated my experience of a perfect sunday afternoon :) We had to leave @ 7 in order to get back to the city in time for the Simpsons season finale, whatever I'm addicted. "For shame." Ben Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 17:58:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10172 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 17:58:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 10136 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 17:58:49 -0000 Received: from ewey-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO ewey.excite.com) (198.3.99.191) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 17:58:49 -0000 Received: from zero.excite.com ([199.172.152.241]) by ewey.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990517175851.QSGC27880.ewey@zero.excite.com> for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:58:51 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: lovely weekend Message-Id: <926963902.11333.780@excite.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:58:22 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk this weekend reminded me that while my primary connection to the scene is music (when it comes down to it, i can be in heaven all by myself with a walkman dancing on a beach ... as long as the music's there!).... i also love all the wonderful people who make up the aspects of our dance world... friday night (after a hilarious and schwanky showing of Mars Needs Women), i wandered into Ethereal, where I found a party that was amazing, so many of my favorite folks happily and drunkenly dancing in a huge clean and friendly space... many thanks to marty and crew for putting this together... and i have to say that having an "underground" event in a 21-up venue gives a great flavor that i happen to enjoy. of course, i didn't get drunk (um, not very anyway), so i got the extra pleasure of watching the entertainment. you go, andy. and in the theme of my weekend (which also included first light and sunset, and red room except the music was off when i got there and my sleepy side won the "go home now" argument, sorry jonas!), i got to meet many wonderful list folks, which is what i consider the primary benefit of being on this list... to me, sfraves isn't just about knowing which parties are happening.... and it's *not* a cyber-community along... to me, it is the hugest influence in my life as far as meeting the people i find myself dancing next to.... and this weekend i met about 20 people from the list who i'd not known before.... and THAT ROCKS!!! sheez, we are young, we are old, we are crazy, we are sedate, we are homies, we are suburbanites, we are rich, we are poor, we are amazing folks!!! and by knowing you all, my life is enriched. when i stop and think about all the people in my life, and how i met them or how my friendship with them grew, sfraves is repeatedly part of the formula.... and for that, i am truly thankful! and.... saturday was my first night out with my new earplugs... and may i say PLEASE everyone think about getting a pair! they are called "musician's earplugs" because they are molded to fit your ear, and have inserts that filter out the sound equally across spectrums.... so i was able to dance directly in front of the speakers at first light and hear the music clearly, but without pain, no ringing ears at the end of the night... and best of all, i could carry on conversations with people and actually understand them!!! for all of you who think i'm the biggest stoner in the world (well, maybe)... actually, half the time i simply can't hear conversations in amplified envirnoments... i feel like a changed person now! several people have asked where to get these... i just looked in the yellow pages under "hearing aids" and called to find the best price (i paid $115) and most convenient, so i went to Jeannette White HEaring Aids at 450 Sutter.... but there are lots of options... so all you speaker heads... THINK ABOUT IT!! hearing is so important.... and i don't want to ever lose my ab ility to hear the music.... much love, and wishes for a wonderful week, leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 18:20:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24895 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 18:20:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 24875 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 18:20:14 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 18:20:14 -0000 Received: from Gammbino@aol.com (14439) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vZQYa03058 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 14:19:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Gammbino@aol.com Message-ID: <5a1f002c.2471b7a0@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 14:19:12 EDT Subject: Wondering about Love-Affair To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey everyone... I was thinking about Love-Affair and I remember in one of the main rooms I think it was the one with the big ass open doors. Anyways durning 1-2 they were playing some fast ass music and the Martin Luther King Speech was playing..Does anyone know what DJ and song that was cause I thought it was hella cool!! thanks. Much PLUR Kent From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 19:07:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3287 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 19:07:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 3263 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 19:07:53 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 19:07:53 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com (8064) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id oUTIa03058; Mon, 17 May 1999 15:06:09 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 15:06:08 EDT Subject: Re: lovely weekend To: leslie.ayres@excite.com, SFRAVES@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Netmail sub 2 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk these were mentioned and talked about in great detail (all ear plugs) in last years June/July issue of LOTUS.. i happen to still have the magazine and article if anyone wants more information. <3 amber r In a message dated 05/17/1999, 10:59:08 AM, leslie.ayres@excite.com writes: <> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 19:10:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4798 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 19:10:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 4782 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 19:10:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 19:10:46 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 230 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 12:08:00 -0700 Message-ID: <374069F0.B34436C9@hrg.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 12:11:44 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFraves peeps Subject: weekend review Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwn.... thats all I have to say...j/k. really worn out from a great weekend. planned on going to barnevald friday night to check out martys party, but the allergies attacked big time, and I absolutely had to take a nap before the late set at RedRoom (sorry marty). got up around midnight and headed over to berkely. got to redroom to find a nice tight gathering of peeps in a very well decorated local, lots of cool heads chillin to some beats. unfortunatly the cops werent to keen on the situation and most of the system was dragged away. the faithfull stuck around tho, eric spire played a nice deep set, and gave me a copy of his cd (really nicely mixed, check it out *thanks eric). hopped on the decks for an hour or so, then checked out some of jonas's stuff as he brought things up (nice bouncy stuff with a tint of NY stylings). finally it was time to head home and get some heavily needed z's. thanks for a great little gathering jonas, and hi to everyone I met that night, deep beep and others (im really bad with names). after spending saturday lounging and doing a little record shopping, sunday was spent in the kinetic gooves studio working a new track...a really nice big tribal funky thing thats gonna be absolutly huge when its done. after that headed off to sunset which was at stafford lake, one of my absolute favorite locations.... totally gorgeous, and five minutes from my house (perfect!). then it was off to the afterparty at sean murrays warehouse. dom (freaky chakra) and sean murray provided the soundtrack for my beer consumption before I hopped on and dropped some deep house for awhile. alot of fun...wish I didnt have to work today so I coulda taken some pills too damnit...he he ; ) anyways, im hella tired now...staring at my computer willing it to do my work for me. isnt working. damn. john r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 19:26:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15934 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 19:26:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 15889 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 19:26:23 -0000 Received: from dummy.sirius.com (HELO phat.r8x.net) (root@207.44.194.129) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 19:26:23 -0000 Received: from x-radio.com (toker [192.168.1.19]) by phat.r8x.net (8.8.5/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA14702 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 12:26:20 -0700 Message-ID: <37406D75.8EB6FD7E@x-radio.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 12:26:45 -0700 From: "W. P. Risenhoover" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Playboy article on DJ culture Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk To: pauly@x-radio.com Playboy article on DJ culture... http://www.playboy.com/magazine/current/english/article2.html From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 19:31:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20270 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 19:31:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 20224 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 19:31:21 -0000 Received: from law-f107.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.170) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 19:31:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 40036 invoked by uid 0); 17 May 1999 19:30:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19990517193031.40035.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.173.239.48 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 17 May 1999 12:30:31 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.173.239.48] From: "ro ro" To: AdidasXE7@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Welcome to the jungle! Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 19:30:31 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >First Light was a sick party. I finally "get" jungle. It always seemed so >random but after last night i dont know if I can go back. The trance room >was Jungle isn't random, it's just fishing the crowd with its super-sized bass hook. When it catches you, you're goin on a FAT RIDE!!! >so hot and crowded that i forced myself to dance to jungle and listen to >Max >and that shit was dope. I had soooo much fun last night, and was with a lot You don't have to force yourself to listen to jungle, all you have to do is get in the room, and wait for the bus to take you on a ride. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 19:32:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21282 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 19:32:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 21152 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 19:32:30 -0000 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 19:32:30 -0000 Received: from best.com ([216.132.92.5]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id MAA27217; Mon, 17 May 1999 12:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37406DF1.E143ECAD@best.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 12:28:49 -0700 From: just jer Organization: @spire X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, "frequency-8@squinky.org" Subject: BSP: What @spire parties are all about. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just so you all know, this is a message that I sent to the @spire member mailing list, which we use for party planning etc, so that the crew would understand what @spire is all about and who I am. I was told that I should forward this on to you guys, so here it is. Just in case some of you don't know who Viberation is or haven't been to one of their parties, they throw the most incredible underground parties I've ever seen. Their props are absolutely amazing and their vibe is truly pure and intense. The @spire crew consists of some of the good people at Harmony, FamilE, @spire originals, Warmth, HappyKids, First Light, some of the kids from Danville and Sac, and a few other misc. here and theres. thanks for your time, jer =) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Who am I? Who is @spire? Who are you? Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 11:57:15 -0700 From: just jer Reply-To: aspire-l@zo.com Organization: @spire To: aspire-l@zo.com Hi. My name is Jeremy. See Jeremy jump. See Jeremy sit. See Jeremy is a crackhead. ok enough. I'm weird, nutty, and serious all in one sandwich made with wonderbread. I'm the head honcho and the mastermind behind @spire. I started out as a hardcore extreme underground only raver and when it all fell apart I became totally depressed, jaded, and went to parties just to bitch with the few people I had left in the scene about the new people and the way parties are now. Now I'm in between. I once again love raves, raving, the people, the music, etc., it's just that I don't go as often as I used to. @spire started out only a few months after I first started raving. We threw a majorly KICK ASS beach party in Santa Cruz. A few months later @spire fell apart half way and we threw another beach party in Daly City, which in my opinion SUCKED MAJOR DICK, but people said they had a blast anyways. After that party the scene fell apart for me and I lost interest in throwing parties. Not only that, but I didn't want to throw a massive, and I couldn't afford the risk of throwing an underground. The biggest fear I have is disappointing people, and having a party either suck, or get busted, would rip my heart apart. Now I've come to terms with larger parties and actually have a blast at 'em. It's sad to say, but at some of the undergrounds these days I have less of a good time than at a bigger party. I guess it's all about where your friends are at! So here we are... throwing a big party at second and crackson which I used to despise and now love when a party is done right there. This party WILL KICK MAJOR ASS! The goal of this party is to completely blow these new kids away with something they'd never expect. So we're putting our everything into completely covering the place in so many decorations that they won't recognize the place. Some cool new lighting ideas. Not packing the space at all. And giving these people 10 times more than they expect. Just so everyone knows my biggest influences have been harmony and viberation, and you all know what their parties are like. In short... @spire parties will be high quality KICK ASS parties that will try new things and set a new standard for raves/raving. Just so everyone knows, if any of you feel uncomfortable about any aspect of the party, please don't be afraid to say anything or speak up about it. That also goes along with helping out at the party, making props, promoting, etc, if you really don't want to do something, don't do it! I want everyone of you to feel comfortable with @spire and @spire parties. I don't want any of you to get burnt out as a result of this production, and I want to keep this fun for all of you. Thank you all for your support, jer -- ... it's almost here ... @spire (415) 273-5513 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 19:43:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28890 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 19:43:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 28748 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 19:43:09 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 19:43:09 -0000 Received: from ShockVibe@aol.com (14423) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vYWWa09695 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 15:41:48 -0400 (EDT) From: ShockVibe@aol.com Message-ID: <5bbdcdd4.2471cafc@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 15:41:48 EDT Subject: BSP:Static*Cling*Presents*FaZe*May21st.* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk May 21st - Static Cling productions presents: ***********(((((((((((((((FaZe)))))))))))))))*********** Main Room: Oboro Records, Tracy, Tao, E.T.I. (compliments of Daddys Records), J-Bot (Harmony), Dj D (T & J Factory), Marty (XLR8R), Tom-E (Static Cling), Tecni (Static Cling), Jungle Room:, Turtle (threshold vibes), Wain (threshold vibes), Spie (threshold vibes), Datem (threshold vibes), Russell G (Dancehall Militia), Hip-Hop/Trip-Hop:, We have PHAT dj's all lined up for ya!. Presale tickets $10<--->At the door $12 w/can $15 w/out Tickets available at--> Daddys Records, T & J Factory, BPM, Compound Records, Mixology, and Harmonics. We also have a great space for you... A new, clean, fully permitted lazer tag arena!! Its located in Santa Rosa. Info line: 707.325.0340 MuZiK & LiGhT, sean From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 19:43:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29626 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 19:43:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 29486 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 19:43:46 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd126.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.190) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 19:43:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 20770 invoked by uid 0); 17 May 1999 19:43:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19990517194319.20769.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 204.160.32.13 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 17 May 1999 12:43:18 PDT X-Originating-IP: [204.160.32.13] From: "Eric Vandenbroek" To: danglingfury@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Welcome to the jungle! Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 12:43:18 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That's a good way to describe hardcore and gabber as well. Eric >From: "ro ro" >To: AdidasXE7@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Welcome to the jungle! >Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 19:30:31 GMT > >>First Light was a sick party. I finally "get" jungle. It always seemed so >>random but after last night i dont know if I can go back. The trance room >>was > >Jungle isn't random, it's just fishing the crowd with its super-sized bass >hook. When it catches you, you're goin on a FAT RIDE!!! > >>so hot and crowded that i forced myself to dance to jungle and listen to >>Max >>and that shit was dope. I had soooo much fun last night, and was with a lot > >You don't have to force yourself to listen to jungle, all you have to do is >get in the room, and wait for the bus to take you on a ride. > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 19:46:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2731 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 19:46:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 2547 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 19:46:20 -0000 Received: from f214.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.105) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 19:46:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 74218 invoked by uid 0); 17 May 1999 19:45:53 -0000 Message-ID: <19990517194553.74217.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 153.37.12.191 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 17 May 1999 12:45:53 PDT X-Originating-IP: [153.37.12.191] From: "Natasha 426" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Found! (Was: help?) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 12:45:53 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk he's been found! :) happie monday (*ugh*) hugs, natasha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 20:06:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13430 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 20:06:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 13411 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 20:06:01 -0000 Received: from pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (HELO pimout3-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.59.211) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 20:06:01 -0000 Received: from prodigy.net (SNFCB112-33.splitrock.net [209.156.147.240]) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA70768; Mon, 17 May 1999 16:05:53 -0400 Message-ID: <374075D4.D0EE87D0@prodigy.net> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:02:28 -0700 From: JOELANZON Reply-To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gammbino@aol.com CC: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Wondering about Love-Affair References: <5a1f002c.2471b7a0@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Don't know the DJ or even what song he was playing, but the Martin Luther King speech has been around on acapella for years as well as showing up on numerous songs. Two songs that come to mind are 12 minutes of Dreams and a rare Mel-O-Ween that Donald Glaude used to play all the time. -peace- Joe Lanzon Gammbino@aol.com wrote: > Hey everyone... I was thinking about Love-Affair and I remember in one of the > main rooms I think it was the one with the big ass open doors. Anyways > durning 1-2 they were playing some fast ass music and the Martin Luther King > Speech was playing..Does anyone know what DJ and song that was cause I > thought it was hella cool!! thanks. > > Much PLUR > > Kent > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 20:08:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15348 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 20:08:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 15297 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 20:08:44 -0000 Received: from netcom6.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.114) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 20:08:44 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom6.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id NAA22986; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:08:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:08:42 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Re: Wondering about Love-Affair To: E-Bumpers By the Bay In-Reply-To: <374075D4.D0EE87D0@prodigy.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk There was also a track by Moodswings called 'Spiritual High' (i think) that has the MLK speech in it, too On Mon, 17 May 1999, JOELANZON wrote: > Don't know the DJ or even what song he was playing, but the Martin Luther King > speech has been around on acapella for years as well as showing up on numerous > songs. Two songs that come to mind are 12 minutes of Dreams and a rare > Mel-O-Ween that Donald Glaude used to play all the time. > > -peace- Joe Lanzon > > > > Gammbino@aol.com wrote: > > > Hey everyone... I was thinking about Love-Affair and I remember in one of the > > main rooms I think it was the one with the big ass open doors. Anyways > > durning 1-2 they were playing some fast ass music and the Martin Luther King > > Speech was playing..Does anyone know what DJ and song that was cause I > > thought it was hella cool!! thanks. > > > > Much PLUR > > > > Kent > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 20:20:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22164 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 20:20:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 22128 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 20:20:29 -0000 Received: from web304.yahoomail.com (HELO send304.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.186) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 20:20:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990517202051.4492.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.36.254.158] by web304.yahoomail.com; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:20:51 PDT Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:20:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Gosiewski Subject: BSP Re: D&B at SF Carnaval - listing for Sun.May 30 To: Karina Powers Cc: sf raves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk -SF Carnaval! Sunday May 30th -On the streets of the Mission District. Drum&Bass, Breakbeats,Dub & Jungle come to the SF Carnaval - A Waking Dream will have a float With a full U.K. style SoundSystem with DJs, Live Keyboards, Sax, Bass, Vocal action from DJ Collage (DubTribe, Masse 1)& some very special secret guests & suprises... Including the premier of the new D&B/Breakbeat Dub remix of Bob Marleys classic `EXodus' in an epic 30 minute version ... The visual theme of that float is `Mondo Condo' protesting the live/work situation & the resulting exodus of artists from The Bay area ... Drummers/Ravers can participate by showing up & dancing alongside the float or by coming to A Waking Dream's warehouse at 2815 18th st (@ Bryant)next Sat or Sun (22nd & 23rd)afternoon after 1pm to help make costumes (that you can wear!) etc . We will also be doing a `Kid Friendly' Float themed around Julia Butterfly's long sit in the Luna Tree with lots of kids of all ages in butterfly costumes ... Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 20:22:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23740 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 20:22:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 23599 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 20:22:46 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 20:22:46 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (7983) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iTBYa02623; Mon, 17 May 1999 16:10:13 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <1790d58a.2471d1a4@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:10:12 EDT Subject: Re: Help? To: natasha426@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Considering Ive been up in SF all weekend. I take it someone feels like a parasite right about now? Much Peace and happiness, M Groove On And yes, the money was found. Aaaaaaaahahahahahaha. Let the drama continue. Not! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 20:23:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24819 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 20:23:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 24744 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 20:23:29 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd122.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.186) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 20:23:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 34316 invoked by uid 0); 17 May 1999 20:23:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19990517202302.34315.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 153.37.195.63 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:23:02 PDT X-Originating-IP: [153.37.195.63] From: "dj _haK" To: devolfive@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: DJ.symplex.......OH MY GAWSSSHHHHH!!!!!! Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:23:02 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yeah, he kicks it with me; he's going to start working @ solid grooves shortly. he'll be spinning @ synthetic every monday nite! hak has anyone heard of DJ symplex? Oh My god!!!I just got a copy of his tape from a friend of mine.This guy is so good! IMHO the best new jungle DJ in the bay. My friend said he kicks it with dj Hak. is he in urban assault too? Promoters, hunt this guy down!!!!!!He's definitely worth it. kurt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 20:42:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6678 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 20:42:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 6492 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 20:41:46 -0000 Received: from web1002.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.92) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 20:41:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19990517204141.9411.rocketmail@web1002.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.170.187.238] by web1002.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:41:41 PDT Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:41:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Junglist Mikey Subject: MTV question? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I was watching MTV at like 3 last night, and there was arave on there.With a burning man, is this the same thing. Give me all the beef... Mikey Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 20:44:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8784 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 20:44:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 8775 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 20:44:26 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 20:44:26 -0000 Received: from DjShUbErT@aol.com (4530) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vQYAa02836 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 16:42:57 -0400 (EDT) From: DjShUbErT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:42:51 EDT Subject: Re: Wondering about Love-Affair To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk it was Donald Glaude playing it at Love a Fair Peace, Shubert From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 20:46:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10455 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 20:46:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 10283 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 20:46:38 -0000 Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.119) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 20:46:38 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom9.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id NAA14326; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:46:12 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Another techno innovator... To: E-Bumpers By the Bay Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/examiner/archive/1999/04/29/ STYLE12596.dtl&type=movies From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 20:53:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15207 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 20:53:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 15080 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 20:52:57 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 20:52:57 -0000 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.9.3/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA22931; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:52:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:52:52 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-Sender: andy@atari To: Junglist Mikey cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: MTV question? In-Reply-To: <19990517204141.9411.rocketmail@web1002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, it's a big rave, and the man is supposed to symoblize junglists. These crazy house heads, goa freaks and techno afficianados torch a drum and bass effigy (I hear it's designed to Doc Scott's exact proportions!). So basically, it's these crazy bastards who are into burning junglists. Why do you ask. Are you into jungle? AndyW p.s. The 'electronica' section at Media Play contains over 20 titles! p.p.s. TV doesn't rot your brain, but I can't say it does wonders for your imagination either. Imagine if you had 4-6 more hours a day to do something productive? I'm not dissing, I love my occasional south park/simpsons/aphex twin video... but america spends a lot of time sucking off the infotit. p.p.p.s. I'm very much kidding. Go to www.burningman.com to figure it out. Hint: it's not a rave. On Mon, 17 May 1999, Junglist Mikey wrote: -&e->I was watching MTV at like 3 last night, and there was arave on -&e->there.With a burning man, is this the same thing. Give me all the -&e->beef... -&e-> -&e->Mikey From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 20:55:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17352 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 20:55:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 17269 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 20:55:21 -0000 Received: from ns2.divi.com (HELO kms.divi.com) (199.97.190.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 20:55:20 -0000 Received: from rmarm.divi.com by kms.divi.com (8.8.8/DiviCom-KMS) id NAA10301; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990517205446.00b5e7c0@kms> X-Sender: isaacl@kms X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:54:46 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Isaac Labugen Subject: bsp...children of the sun Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hello people, hope you are all recovering well from an awesome weekend. Congratulations to the first light collective for creating a very cool party. It was put together well and the music was excellent. Well were only 4 days away from our little shindig coming up this friday may 21st. This will be a small party with a really warm vibe. We have assembled a cool line up for you all and have a really comfy space for you to dance and relax. We hope to see many of you there, we cant wait to spend the evening with you. Friday May 21st 9pm-6am? East Bay Location children of the sun...And The Journey Continues Brad / Moontribe-LA (2 hour extended set) Beatseed / Journeys-Seattle (Live Performance) Greg Sandler / Harmony andyW / Viberation Macadio / First Light Micron / Viberation Down Tempo - Chill Mook Sky -more tba Sound By Mutor / Visuals By Viberation *Free Fruit & Lemonade* Limited Capacity - Presale Tickets Strongly Advised And Available @ ($16) Solid Grooves / Santa Clara Harmonics / Santa Rosa F8 / SF Trance & Jungle / Berkeley 415.835.3144 We Love You All - Spread The Warmth! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 20:57:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20068 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 20:57:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 19950 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 20:56:53 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 20:56:53 -0000 Received: from MIB271@aol.com (14373) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vSDVa24274; Mon, 17 May 1999 16:55:18 -0400 (EDT) From: MIB271@aol.com Message-ID: <2ab23740.2471dc1c@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:54:52 EDT Subject: Re: BSP:Static*Cling*Presents*FaZe*May21st.* To: ShockVibe@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Its about time that there is a new location!!! A Lazer Tag arena this is gonna be tight!! ill be there definately.......what kind of can like canned food or a soda can????? greg From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 20:57:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20253 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 20:57:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 20031 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 20:56:59 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 20:56:59 -0000 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.9.3/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA23191; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:56:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:56:56 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-Sender: andy@atari Reply-To: AndyW To: Deepfog cc: Enchanted Broccoli Ravers Subject: Re: AndyW dancing in cages? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 17 May 1999, Deepfog wrote: -&e->i thought i saw andyw doing some dirty dancing this weekend in them cages -&e->at 550 barnevald. =] Possible answers to this difficult to deal with statement: 1) That wasn't dirty bucko, I'll show you dirty. 2) Could we please review my set, rather than my drunken polka stylee dancing (and people ask me, why is it that DJs never dance at parties and just stand there with their arms crossed trying to look important...)? 3) I was at home knitting a sweater. I have no idea what you punks are talking about. But I did have a dream about Science and Megatron dropping fucking thermonuclear detonators for a gorgeous run o' air to ground heat seeking junglism in a nearby city. There are promoters that book for draw and there are promoters to book for quality music, and I make my stand that any promoter who books these two technicians is in the quality camp. Clean mixing, sweet flow, keeping it together upsideyourhead-step as it should be done. Vibe was ON. Book them. End of story. And in a related dream, I spun at two parties this weekend and had a grand old time. Thank you Greg and Tobias for being such wonderful 2x4 partners! Let's see... set reviews: Ethereal: Science, Duh, Megatron, Li, Deepfog, Micron, Triad, Dysfunctional... I didn't hear a bad set being played. I was also in no mood to be critical. :) I think my set with Tobias was okay... at least I didn't fall over. :P First Light: Did my housey-techno thing with Greg (even played an crusty trance track and some old old old old old school flava... have no idea what came over me)... then caught the remainder of the Urban Assault onslaught.. good stuff shaking from Hak and Siphon... room vibe was up despite a lot of floor space being taken up by cracked colonists from planet E trying to sink it, Andre Morant was a high energy at times a bit wreckless and nutty (like good food/sex is at times sloppy... not a bad thing) high BPM techno frenzy complete with the obligatory assault of midwest techno turntablism, Ian and Marty were more playful than usual without maxing out my cheese-o-meter, M&M were running the classic F8 formula and getting the crowd going, and Macadio came in with a unique blend of confident, hard hitting and most danceable tunes for someone who had just dealt with throwing a party at 2nd and Jackson. Issues: Rather than state the obvious... I'll just say, it would have made both parties better if we took 300 people out of First Light, put them in a time/space teleporter, and dropped them off at Ethereal. But not the ones sprawled out on the floor... not sure what to do with those. :) Peace, AndyW From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 21:01:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22788 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 21:01:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 22555 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 21:00:50 -0000 Received: from law-f54.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.117) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 21:00:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 4591 invoked by uid 0); 17 May 1999 21:05:33 -0000 Message-ID: <19990517210533.4590.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.236.45.61 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 17 May 1999 14:05:32 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.236.45.61] From: "Wil Hanno" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR: Address Change Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 14:05:32 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Because hotmail blows large farm animals (have proof), I'm switching to emails. My address will be "wil_hanno@yahoo.com" hmmm...I can't think of anything else to say right off, except, I hope you're all doing well -John From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 21:01:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23299 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 21:01:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 23016 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 21:01:25 -0000 Received: from web504.yahoomail.com (128.11.68.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 21:01:25 -0000 Message-ID: <19990517210438.11282.rocketmail@web504.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.119.128.253] by web504.yahoomail.com; Mon, 17 May 1999 14:04:38 PDT Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 14:04:38 -0700 (PDT) From: What is a dic-so bunny Subject: NRR: Which Tree Does Your Birthday Fall Under? To: "NAOMI@home T" , "Da Sack A Tomatoes ." , "Hib Ta Da Hibbidy Hop" "and da Boccoli" Biff , Punani Masufat MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I've never posted one of these forwarded thingies to the list before so before you try and bite my head off, just read it or push the delete button...that simple. sherri :) WHICH TREE DOES YOUR BIRTHDAY FALL UNDER? Dec 23 - Jan 1 Apple Tree Jan 2 - Jan 11 Fir Tree Jan 12 - Jan 24 Elm Tree Jan 25 - Feb 3 Cypress Tree Feb 4 - Feb 8 Poplar Tree Feb 9 - Feb 18 Cedar Tree Feb 19 - Feb 28 Pine Tree Mar 1 - Mar 10 Weeping Willow Tree Mar 11 - Mar 20 Lime Tree Mar 21 Oak Tree Mar 22 - Mar 31 Hazelnut Tree Apr 1 - Apr 10 Rowan Tree Apr 11 - Apr 20 Maple Tree Apr 21 - Apr 30 Walnut Tree May 1 - May 14 Poplar Tree May 15 - May 24 Chestnut Tree May 25 - Jun 3 Ash Tree Jun 4 - Jun 13 Hornbeam Tree Jun 14 - Jun 23 Fig Tree Jun 24 Birch Tree Jun 25 - Jul 4 Apple Tree Jul 5 - Jul 14 Fir Tree Jul 15 - Jul 25 Elm Tree Jul 26 - Aug 4 Cypress Tree Aug 5 - Aug 13 Poplar Tree Aug 14 - Aug 23 Cedar Tree Aug 24 - Sep 2 Pine Tree Sep 3 - Sep 12 Weeping Willow Tree Sep 13 - Sep 22 Lime Tree Sep 23 Olive Tree Sep 24 - Oct 3 Hazelnut Tree Oct 4 - Oct 13 Rowan Tree Oct 14 - Oct 23 Maple Tree Oct 24 - Nov 11 Walnut Tree Nov 12 - Nov 21 Chestnut Tree Nov 22 - Dec 1 Ash Tree Dec 2 - Dec 11 Hornbeam Tree Dec 12 - Dec 21 Fig Tree Dec 22 Beech Tree APPLE TREE - (The Love) Of slight build, lots of charm, appeal and attraction, pleasant aura, flirtatious, adventurous, sensitive, always in love, wants to love and be loved, faithful and tender partner, very generous, scientific talents, lives for today, a carefree philosopher with imagination. FIR TREE (The Mysterious) Extraordinary taste, dignity, cultivated airs, loves anything beautiful, moody, stubborn, tends to egoism but cares for those close to it, rather modest, very ambitious, talented, industrious uncounted lover, many friends, many foes, very reliable. ELM TREE (The Noble) Minuteness, pleasant shape, tasteful clothes, modest demands, tends to not forgive mistakes, cheerful, likes to lead but not to obey, honest and faithful partner, tends to a know-all-attitude and making decisions for others, noble-minded, generous, good sense of humor, practical. CYPRESS TREE (The Faithfulness) Strong, muscular, adaptable, takes what life has to give, happy content, optimistic, needs enough money and acknowledgement, hates loneliness, passionate lover which cannot be satisfied, faithful, quick-tempered, unruly, pedantic and careless. POPLAR TREE (The Uncertainty) Looks very decorative, no self-confident behavior, only courageous if necessary, needs goodwill and pleasant surroundings, very choosy, often lonely, great animosity, artistic nature, good organizer, tends to philosophy, reliable in any situation, takes partnership serious. CEDAR TREE (The Confidence) Of rare beauty, knows how to adapt, likes luxury, of good health, not in the least shy, tends to look down on others, self-confident, determined, impatient, wants to impress others, many talents, industrious, healthy optimism, waiting for the one true love, able to make quick decisions. PINE TREE (The Particularity) Loves agreeable company, very robust, knows how to make life comfortable, very active, natural, good companion, but seldom friendly, falls easily in love but its passion burns out quickly, gives up easily, many disappointments till it finds its ideal, trustworthy, practical. WEEPING WILLOW (The Melancholy) Beautiful but full of melancholy, attractive, very empathic, loves anything beautiful and tasteful, loves to travel, dreamer, restless, capricious, honest, can be influenced but is not easy to live with, demanding, good intuition, suffers in love but finds sometimes an anchoring partner. LIME TREE (The Doubt) Accepts what life dishes out in a composed way, hates fighting, stress and labor, tends to laziness and idleness, soft and relenting, makes sacrifices for friends, many talents but not tenacious enough to make them blossom, often wailing and complaining, very jealous, loyal. HAZELNUT TREE (The Extraordinary) Charming, undermining, very understanding, knows how to make an impression, active fighter for social cause, popular, moody and capricious lover, honest and tolerant partner, precise sense of judgement. ROWAN TREE (The Sensitivity) Full of charm, cheerful, gifted, without egoism, likes to draw attention, loves life, motion, unrest and even complications, is both dependent and independent, good taste, artistic, passionate, emotional, good company, does not forgive. MAPLE TREE (Independence of Mind) No ordinary person, full of imagination and originality, shy and reserved, ambitious, proud, self-respect, hungers for new experiences, sometimes nervous, many complexes, good memory, learns easily, complicated love life, wants to impress. WALNUT TREE (The Passion) Unrelenting, strange and full of contrasts, often egoistic, aggressive, noble, broad horizon, unexpected reactions, spontaneous, unlimited ambition, no flexibility, difficult and uncommon partner, not always liked but often admired, ingenious strategist, very jealous and passionate, no compromises. CHESTNUT TREE (The Honesty) Of unusual beauty, does not want to impress, well-developed sense of justice, vivacious, interested, a born diplomat, but irritate and sensitive in company, often due to a lack of self-confidence, acts sometimes superior, feels not understood, loves only once, has difficulties in finding a partner. ASH TREE (The Ambition) Uncommonly attractive, vivacious, impulsive, demanding, does not care for criticism, ambitious, intelligent, talented, likes to play with its fate, can be egoistic, very reliable and trust-worthy, faithful and prudent lover, sometimes brains rule over heart, but takes partnership very serious. HORNBEAM TREE (The good taste) Of cool beauty, cares for its looks and condition, good taste, tends to egoism, makes life as comfortable as possible, leads reasonable, disciplined life, looks for kindness, an emotional partner and acknowledgement, dreams of unusual lovers, is seldom happy with his/her feelings, mistrusts most people, is never sure of its decisions, very consciences. FIG TREE (The Sensibility) Very strong, a bit self-willed, independent, does not allow contradiction or arguments, loves life, its family, children and animals, a bit of a butterfly, good sense of humor, likes idleness and laziness, of practical talent and intelligence. OAK TREE (Robust nature) Courageous, strong, unrelenting, independent, sensible, does not love changes, keeps its feet on the ground, person of action. BIRCH TREE (The Inspiration) Vivacious, attractive, elegant, friendly, unpretentious, modest, does not like anything in excess, abhors the vulgar, loves life in nature and in calm, not very passionate, full of imagination, little ambition, creates a calm and content atmosphere. OLIVE TREE (The Wisdom) Loves sun, warmth and kind feelings, reasonable, balanced, avoids aggression and violence, tolerant, cheerful, calm, well-developed sense of justice, sensitive, empathic, free of jealousy, loves to read and the company of sophisticated people. BEECH TREE (The Creative) Has good taste, concerned about its looks, materialist, good organization of life and career, economical, good leader, takes no unnecessary risks, reasonable, splendid lifetime companion, keen on keeping fit (diets, sports, etc.). === Fievel and Dinky Little SUCK DONKEY Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 21:34:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16667 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 21:34:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 16173 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 21:33:35 -0000 Received: from fletch.fix.net (telkionish@206.190.71.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 21:33:35 -0000 Received: from localhost (telkionish@localhost) by fletch.fix.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA18641 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 14:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 14:33:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Adair To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [NRR] answer me this please. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >>To what extent would drugs be available to people? Would there be an >>age-limit, as with alcohol? Not that many people abusing alcohol are >>actually 21... Or would you need a permit or something? >i think the alcohol thing works pretty well--heavy enforcement on the >young >kids with less attention paid as they get closer to the legal age. this >allows kids to acquire experience so that by the time they have the >complete legal authority to purchase, they've already (hopefully) learned >their limits, etiquette, etc. Tell that to the judge who suspended my license for a YEAR, ONE WEEK before my 21st birthday... My alcohol consumption has dropped off considerably since my 21st, but that probably more to do with my financial situation that anything else... Or maybe because it just isnt as fun if you arent getting away with something.. I don't see legalization of drugs as a positive thing... It is hard enough to avoid addiction when stuff is expensive as it is now.. Just think if E only cost $3 a hit... You think there are too many e-kiddies out there right now?? I DO think we need to do something about these stupid mandatory sentencing laws though... How can anybody justify locking up a common dealer longer than a murderer or rapist (unless they are two or three of the above)... Decriminalization would probably have about the same effect as legalization, only that you wouldnt be able to buy stuff at every 7-11, just a select few.. When that certain person is working... hehehe anyway i will stop rambling nonsense now. GregerE From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 22:10:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11192 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 22:10:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 10994 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 22:10:47 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?F54u3sx7najxzpReQC5JSZeY+mr/9UjW?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 22:10:47 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id PAA01381; Mon, 17 May 1999 15:10:43 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 15:10:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley Reply-To: Max McCauley To: NavySatan@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (nrr) Parker Lewis Can't Lose In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 17 May 1999 NavySatan@aol.com wrote: > > I wouldn't normally ask but I just didn't know where to turn to. Please help > me, but does anyone have any resource info on the late 80's/early 90's TV > Show "Parker Lewis Can't Lose"... No shit, one of my friends from high school went to U of Colorado, Boulder. The "nerdy" guy from Parker Luis used to buy MAD amounts of drugs from the guy I knew from high school. also...Rashaan Salaam who got drafted by Chicago Bears bought x-amount of weed from him. I think that is pretty fun-e! 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 22:19:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19592 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 22:19:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 19577 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 22:19:06 -0000 Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (root@140.142.76.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 22:19:06 -0000 Received: from dante39.u.washington.edu (awallace@dante39.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.199]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id PAA16982; Mon, 17 May 1999 15:19:04 -0700 Received: from localhost (awallace@localhost) by dante39.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id PAA30450; Mon, 17 May 1999 15:19:03 -0700 Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 15:19:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "A. Wallace" To: JOELANZON cc: Gammbino@aol.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Wondering about Love-Affair In-Reply-To: <374075D4.D0EE87D0@prodigy.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk it is popular speech to put a reggae beat to, i've heard a few different versions myself... don't know the artists of those ... but sometimes speeches make great samples/lyrics, but only if they don't have anything to do with 'sunscreen', 'fake graduation' or 'power of youth'. gag me on that one. always on the jib tip, alexis X On Mon, 17 May 1999, JOELANZON wrote: > Don't know the DJ or even what song he was playing, but the Martin Luther King > speech has been around on acapella for years as well as showing up on numerous > songs. Two songs that come to mind are 12 minutes of Dreams and a rare > Mel-O-Ween that Donald Glaude used to play all the time. > > -peace- Joe Lanzon > > > > Gammbino@aol.com wrote: > > > Hey everyone... I was thinking about Love-Affair and I remember in one of the > > main rooms I think it was the one with the big ass open doors. Anyways > > durning 1-2 they were playing some fast ass music and the Martin Luther King > > Speech was playing..Does anyone know what DJ and song that was cause I > > thought it was hella cool!! thanks. > > > > Much PLUR > > > > Kent > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 22:19:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20302 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 22:19:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 20195 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 22:19:22 -0000 Received: from web803.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.63) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 22:19:22 -0000 Message-ID: <19990517222510.4623.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.180.76.16] by web803.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 17 May 1999 15:25:10 PDT Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 15:25:10 -0700 (PDT) From: loic comolli Subject: Re: BSP: MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND To: johnr@hrg.com, SFraves peeps MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i'd just like to know: is it gonna be in sf? loic Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 22:20:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22001 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 22:20:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 21975 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 22:20:47 -0000 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 22:20:47 -0000 Received: from best.com ([216.132.92.5]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id PAA07185; Mon, 17 May 1999 15:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3740952C.77A3FD1A@best.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 15:16:12 -0700 From: just jer Organization: @spire X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, "frequency-8@squinky.org" Subject: BSP: @SPIRE - IGuessIShouldPostPartyInfoToo! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok... so I sent what @spire's all about, and now I've got a billion people asking questions. =) so here's the info. July 24, 1999 @spire - Two years in the making HK Marty (Happy Kids Productions) HK Ian (Happy Kids Productions) Carlos (N.Y. / S.F. House Collective) Greg Sandler (Harmony / Harmonics) Li (Harmony) Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records / Quest) Pistachio & Anonymous (Math Sound Workshop / @spire) Logic (North Bay Collective) DRC (Twin Souls Productions) Gianni (Harmonics / Spundae / Release) Theo (Biohazard / Base 9, L.A.). (415) 273-5513 You'll get the full details in about a month or so and an explanation on why it's kinda called "Two years in the making" on our main flyer. call the voice mail number and get on the mailing list. or reply back to me and I'll get you on it. happy raving, jer From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 22:37:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5269 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 22:37:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 5259 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 22:37:47 -0000 Received: from web801.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.61) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 22:37:47 -0000 Message-ID: <19990517224240.24702.rocketmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.99] by web801.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 17 May 1999 15:42:40 PDT Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 15:42:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: B. A. S. S. crew? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Do they have a website? Can someone email me privately if they do. luv, jess Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 22:43:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8728 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 22:43:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 8707 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 22:43:30 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 22:43:30 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EAUUZKKY; Mon, 17 May 1999 18:42:50 EDT To: isaacl@divi.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 15:46:36 -0700 Subject: Re: bsp...children of the sun Message-ID: <19990517.154706.-56295.3.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-4,6-52 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I highly recommend this party! Peace, Theresa On Mon, 17 May 1999 13:54:46 -0700 Isaac Labugen writes: > hello people, hope you are all recovering well from an >awesome >weekend. Congratulations to the first light collective for creating a >very >cool party. It was put together well and the music was excellent. > > Well were only 4 days away from our little shindig coming up >this >friday may 21st. This will be a small party with a really warm vibe. >We have >assembled a cool line up for you all and have a really comfy space for >you >to dance and relax. We hope to see many of you there, we cant wait to >spend >the evening with you. > >Friday May 21st 9pm-6am? >East Bay Location > >children of the sun...And The Journey Continues > >Brad / Moontribe-LA (2 hour extended set) >Beatseed / Journeys-Seattle (Live Performance) >Greg Sandler / Harmony >andyW / Viberation >Macadio / First Light >Micron / Viberation > >Down Tempo - Chill > Mook > Sky > -more tba > >Sound By Mutor / Visuals By Viberation > *Free Fruit & Lemonade* > >Limited Capacity - Presale Tickets Strongly Advised And Available @ >($16) >Solid Grooves / Santa Clara Harmonics / Santa Rosa > F8 / SF Trance & Jungle / Berkeley > >415.835.3144 > >We Love You All - Spread The Warmth! > > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 22:49:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11416 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 22:49:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 11408 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 22:49:10 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 22:49:10 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com (14427) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLDYa24274 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 18:48:21 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <20d9f32f.2471f6b3@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:48:19 EDT Subject: First Light!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok, so now that it's monday and i've had two days to recover, let me say this party was sooooo awsome!!! first off, i loved the music, great variety, i had a hard time deciding what room to be in most of the night, so i went back and forth a lot...... so i think i'm safe to say that i heard most if not all of the dj's, and i wanted to dance all night.... but i had responsibilities, i had to make my video since this one is part of a final project for a film class.... and the camera that i was using belongs to my bestfriend, and her parents are wack and won't let her party until she is actually 18 in Oct, even though she's been done with high school since feburary.... so she had a 2:30 curfew and i didn't want to have to be responsible for such a nice video camera.... thus everything had to be done before she left..... got a bunch of you kids going crazy on the dance floor and some other great shots...... i brought 3 friends to their first party that nite..... and let me say they were soooo cute!! one of 'em was sick with a cold though, so she and another one of the girls left around 2:30ish... but this other girlie was going strong until the end!! the decorations were so cool.... gotta love all the stars and stuff hanging down! the fish and the submarine were really cool..... loved the sequines stuff too, especially those lil dress that 'trice and a few other staff members were wearing outside... despite the usual crowdedness, it was really cool, amd i found room to dance all nite! too me it didn't seem as crowded and hot as i'm used to at 2nd and jax..... but from the line outside when we showed up, it looked like it was gonna be a packed nite..... thankx to all of u that i talked to/danced with/ or whatever at this party, thankx Aryck for that water, it was much appreciated, and thankx to all of you guys that i bugged to watch my lil dance move that i was so excited about!! congrats much on finally throwing a first light that didn't get broken up macadio!!! i had a really great time, and so did every one else i talked to!! this party is one that will stand out in my mind as a great nite! love and hugs and kisses, tina ps i only have 6 more days of classes!!! *yay* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 22:52:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15667 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 22:52:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 15649 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 22:52:49 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 22:52:49 -0000 Received: from Gammbino@aol.com (14444) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id dHJKa24272; Mon, 17 May 1999 18:51:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Gammbino@aol.com Message-ID: <9556c5de.2471f773@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:51:31 EDT Subject: Info on Metropolis! plus DJ Line ups To: maxmcc@csua.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org CC: scraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This Memorial DAy Weekend, on Saturday, May 29, RaveLinks will be chartering buses from Sol Cal to Metropolis (by Clockwork Eventz) in Oakland Cali. This huge party will feature seven huge areas andwill be located at 633 Hegenburger Road (International Rave Center). DJ Lineup: Main Area: Donald Glaude (Funky Tekno Tribe Seattle), Terry Mullan (Catalyst Recordings Chicago), Hipp-E (champion Sound) DJ RKTech (Clockwork/Journees) Jeno (Wicked Crew SF) Tony (the Gathering) Clay Valentine (Vancouver) Area Two: Jon Williams (Organized Noise SF) DRC (Twin Soul Productions SF) Chos JAckson (Resource Recordings SJ) St.John (House Nation SF) J-Bot (Harmony/Harmonics), Charley Fusion (Energy Pulse) DJ Xolot? (plastic Division) Area Three: (Breakbeat, TripHop Hip Hop):Hieroglyphics (Hiero Imperium Recordings Artist) the Pharcyde (LA) Charlotte the Barquess,J-Bondage (Beatsauce SF) DJ Remedy (Madhatters) DJ Liquid (Journees Music) DJ Ghost (Ghosttribe) Miss Knight Area Four (Jungle!!!!! Hell ya! hehe) RAW (Mictlan Records LA/B-Boy 3000) & MC?, Rinse and Flux!! they rule (BASS KRU SF) w/ MC Jamalski (SF) UFO (phunkateck) Aaron V & DJ Dose (Clockwork Junglists) the Highlanders. Area Five (Funkytown): Simon (Commeunity SF) DJ Doubl (Ministry of Sound UK) David Garcia 2X4 Joey Mazzola (Fourtrch Fusion/House Nation SF) DJ Matthew (NorthBay Family) Paucus (FunkyBeat Productions)Danosan (Clear Music) Artoro Garces (Beat Bum Music) Area Six: (Reggae Lounge) : Spliff Skankin&Robin Rankin )Massive SoundInternational) Jaw Bones&Rolo-13 (pirate DJs) DJ Choas (concrete Bushmen). Area Seven (CHILLOUT Room for all u when your ass gets tired =P) Live PA by Sound of Light, Boomerang Figet, Deepfog,Triad. DAYUM that was long!! oh well it'll be hella Much Worth it!! Well I'll see you all at this Phat ass Party hope you have fun well I know you will =) Later all Party Info Numbers 408-747-7742 510-733-1140 415-721-4713 916-565-6560 Much PLUR ^v^Kent From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 22:53:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16576 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 22:53:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 16494 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 22:53:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO osiris.vegasquick.com) (root@209.101.75.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 22:53:16 -0000 Received: from seker (seker.socalraves.com [209.101.75.16] (may be forged)) by osiris.vegasquick.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA15069; Mon, 17 May 1999 14:50:38 -0700 From: "Vegas Rick" To: "Max McCauley" , Cc: Subject: RE: (nrr) Parker Lewis Can't Lose Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 15:53:12 -0700 Message-ID: <006f01bea0b8$0a6a0720$104b65d1@t2000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That was the coolest fuckin' show. Kubiac is now on E.R. Go fig. Some resources: http://www.xnet.com/~fergus/ParkerLewisCantLose_1.shtml http://www.geo.mtu.edu/flamingo/plcl.supplement.html (episode guide with synopsis) No videos are available currently from what I've found. But I can't seem to find who produced it. I know it ran on USA Network back in '95 as reruns, but that's the last I've heard. If you can find the production company that did it, you might be able to get videos from them. Lemme know. --Vegas Rick And in thy gentle speech, a prophecy... > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of Max McCauley > Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 3:11 PM > To: NavySatan@aol.com > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (nrr) Parker Lewis Can't Lose > > > > > On Mon, 17 May 1999 NavySatan@aol.com wrote: > > > > I wouldn't normally ask but I just didn't know where to turn > to. Please help > > me, but does anyone have any resource info on the late > 80's/early 90's TV > > Show "Parker Lewis Can't Lose"... > > No shit, one of my friends from high school went to U of Colorado, > Boulder. The "nerdy" guy from Parker Luis used to buy MAD amounts of > drugs from the guy I knew from high school. also...Rashaan Salaam who got > drafted by Chicago Bears bought x-amount of weed from him. > > I think that is pretty fun-e! > > 10-4, > duh, > max > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 22:57:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18601 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 22:56:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 18475 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 22:56:53 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 22:56:53 -0000 Received: from Gammbino@aol.com (14444) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vEANa05052 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 18:55:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Gammbino@aol.com Message-ID: <23c5f441.2471f86d@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:55:41 EDT Subject: So Cal rave list? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know the addy for the So Cal rave list? thanks Kent From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 23:13:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2223 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 23:13:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 2088 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 23:12:53 -0000 Received: from corpmail1.jps.net (209.63.224.250) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 23:12:53 -0000 Received: from kickass (209-239-194-48.oak.jps.net [209.239.194.48]) by corpmail1.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA20457 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 16:11:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <019b01bea0bb$3214b920$77019665@cuhelp.com> From: "Jay" To: References: <23c5f441.2471f86d@aol.com> Subject: NRR: Help search for alien life!! Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:15:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk For all of you who believe, or would like to, SETI (Search for Extra Terrestrial Intelligence) has released the win32 (W9x, NT) client version of their SETI @ Home project. This program functions as a screen saver when you are not using your computer... but does much more than protect against phosphor burn in! =) It downloads chucks of data from their telescope array and processes it. When its finished, it uploads the results back to SETI's main unix computer. By doing this, they can utilize the processing power of hundreds and thousands of computers around the world to further the search for alien life. http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu is the main website http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/windows.html is where you can download the program. Love & Music, -Jay From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 23:15:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4307 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 23:15:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 4165 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 23:15:29 -0000 Received: from netcom17.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 23:15:29 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom17.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id QAA14592; Mon, 17 May 1999 16:15:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:15:19 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Re: So Cal rave list? To: Gammbino@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <23c5f441.2471f86d@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk scr@socal-raves.org On Mon, 17 May 1999 Gammbino@aol.com wrote: > Does anyone know the addy for the So Cal rave list? > > > thanks > Kent > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 23:16:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5789 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 23:16:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 5765 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 23:16:36 -0000 Received: from fillmore.paix.cp.net (HELO fillmore.criticalpath.net) (209.228.15.40) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 23:16:36 -0000 Received: (cpmta 2182 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 16:16:34 -0700 Date: 17 May 1999 16:16:34 -0700 Message-ID: <19990517231634.2181.cpmta@fillmore.criticalpath.net> X-Sent: 17 May 1999 23:16:34 GMT Received: from [207.251.8.126] by mail.club.net with HTTP; 17 May 1999 16:16:34 PDT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Tabitha Hanrion X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.0 Subject: Ambient Brunch Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Friday night was spent melting into the incredibly lush sounds coming from the Ambient Brunch Tour at the Great American Music Hall. First time in my life where I've gone into a show/party with a headache, and instead of making it worse, the music actually took the pain away. It was nice to sit back, close your eyes and be taken away by it all. Dogon was first, and besides an overly excited Paul Godwin acting goofy while Miguel Noya did his thing, everything was perfect. An especially beautiful song featured a bird sampled over a very simple beat. Words can't describe it, or do it justice, so I won't even try. Spool came next and they set the bar even higher. Just a minute into their set and the hairs on the back of your neck were standing up. Nothing beats that natural, all over body high you can get from really inspirational music. After their set David Fisher, one to thank for bringing this tour to us on Friday night, said Spool played one of the must beautiful songs he's ever heard. Agreed, agreed, agreed! Going in Friday night I didn't know Banco de Gaia wouldn't be playing live. Not that that would have changed my mind about going, but I have to admit I was a little bit sad to see him popping in CD's from a Tower Music bag. He had the crowd (myself included) up and dancing and I always get a big smile when I see people playing on CD decks. Have to admit I did keep repeating over and over in my head, "This is ambient?" Finally Perfume Tree closed the night and like it said on the program menu you were handed when you came in, they were dessert. When I die and go to heaven Jane Tilley will be there greeting me with her voice. I like that dream enough to keep on the path of righteousness in hopes that it might just be true! Most of their songs and a really mellow drum and bass feel to them with her amazing voice gliding on top of it all. Plus she had all our tongues wagging when she stepped out on stage dressed all in black and starts playing guitar. Most amazing part of the night? Seeing music actually being played. I love my dj's as much as one can (some more then others), but it's easy to forget that all those amazing sounds we hear coming off the vinyl or cds have creators. tabitha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 23:24:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10717 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 23:24:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 10698 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 23:24:28 -0000 Received: from fletch.fix.net (telkionish@206.190.71.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 23:24:28 -0000 Received: from localhost (telkionish@localhost) by fletch.fix.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA15101 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 16:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:24:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Adair To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Headphones.. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok kids.. I need some opionions here.. I am gonna grab a new pair of headphones... I LOVE my old pair, but they are a pair of studio headphones. They are perfect for my living room, studio work, etc, but NOT for playing out... They are not loud enough... I am tired of not sounding my best because of equipment limitations, and am finally in a position to plop down a sizeable chunk of change for a badass pair of headphones.. I gave up on noise-cancelling headphones because the cheapest pair I could find were $700, so scratch that idea... I would be cool with paying up to 150 + tax, which is right about where the technics-1200DJ set is, but I know all too well that big $$$ doesnt equal best quality, not to mention that I have never actually used a pair... The pioneer set that are about 130 look really nice too, but I would really like the opionion of somebody that has used quite a few different pairs... GregerE ohyeah... if you could reply privately, i bet about 500 other SFRavers would be grateful.. thx.. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 23:25:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12344 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 23:25:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 12323 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 23:25:46 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 23:25:46 -0000 Received: from yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.29.227]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA03123; Mon, 17 May 1999 16:25:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990517161558.009fb37c@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: case@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:16:22 -0700 To: Greg Adair , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: josh sorkin Subject: Re: [NRR] answer me this please. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 02:33 PM 5/17/99 -0700, Greg Adair wrote: >you arent getting away with something.. I don't see legalization of drugs >as a positive thing... It is hard enough to avoid addiction when stuff is >expensive as it is now.. Just think if E only cost $3 a hit... You think >there are too many e-kiddies out there right now?? No, I don't. I think things could be a lot worse than to have a lot more of our country addicted to ecstasy than to cigarettes and alcohol. So your serotonin levels get a little more imbalanced. That's a lot more reasonable than emphysema and having your liver go sickly pale green cirrhotic, tortured and twisting in agony as your body eats itself alive in the throes of the cancer you've given it by pouring on the tars and organic solvents. Because right now the only legal options we have for chemical alteration are pretty vicious ones. And I know that a lot of unhappiness is connected to drug use but we need to fix things at the CORE, not just attack the drugs that are symptomatic. It's pretty pessimistic to say that if we were given a bunch of drugs we wouldn't know any better than to just overdose on them. If that was the case, then the rave scene would have extinguished itself long ago as some kind of nihilistic death cult. If we can survive in a nexus of condoned drug use on a weekly basis and not destroy everything we hold dear in some kind of ideological psychosis, then why can't everyone else? In the 10+ years since the advent of the Acid House movement, we have proven that it is possible, nay practical, to live in harmony with drugs of all kinds. If I saw the nation overrun by candE kids sprawled all over the floors, not focusing on the "important" things like MONEY and GETTING AHEAD and DISCRIMINATION, i would weep. weep for joy. ------------------------------- "i scream so much. you know what i mean. this electric stream. and my tears in league with the wires and energy and my machine." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 23:34:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16785 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 23:34:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 16777 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 23:34:41 -0000 Received: from web1004.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.94) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 23:34:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19990517233440.7404.rocketmail@web1004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.236.45.61] by web1004.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 17 May 1999 16:34:40 PDT Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:34:40 -0700 (PDT) From: wil hanno Subject: Re: NRR: Help search for alien life!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Watch out for the Feds if you find anything though... actually this is a very cool program --- Jay wrote: > For all of you who believe, or would like to, SETI > (Search for Extra > Terrestrial Intelligence) has released the win32 > (W9x, NT) client version of > their SETI @ Home project. > > This program functions as a screen saver when you > are not using your > computer... but does much more than protect against > phosphor burn in! =) It > downloads chucks of data from their telescope array > and processes it. When > its finished, it uploads the results back to SETI's > main unix computer. > > By doing this, they can utilize the processing power > of hundreds and > thousands of computers around the world to further > the search for alien > life. > > http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu is the main > website > > http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/windows.html is > where you can download > the program. > > Love & Music, > -Jay > > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 17 23:50:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24309 invoked by uid 6000); 17 May 1999 23:50:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 24294 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 23:50:51 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 23:50:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990517234412.4345.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.170.3.123] by attach1; Mon, 17 May 1999 16:44:12 PDT Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:44:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Joaqman Subject: holy Be-Jeezus!!!!!!! sorry Eric...RedRoom To: Gresham Hendee , sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: eric-spire@silverpearl.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk being that i only have limited time on the internet and and a limited brain. i did not mention one of my greatest inSPIREations in my RedRoom revu. Eric Spire came to our party after the po po had tried to violate our rights to assemble and dance. he cleverly waited until the black & whites (cop cars) had left the area. he then proceeded to see if we were still going. ( i guess he's done this before ;) ) he then proceeded to show us how it's all done. Man i don't know where i'd be if i hadn't been referred to Mr. Spire. although he shuns attn. away from himself and wants to acknowledge all of the people involved with Silver Pearl, one must admit that he is one of the most positive and influential forces in the art movement that some call the underground. yes, Eric, i said it, You are a force. during the years i have spent searching for myself as an artist i have waited with great anticipation to meet and hang-out with my peers just like all of the great art movements. i.e. cubism, abstract expressionism, etc. etc. i consider the San Francisco Bay area to be a Mecca of Art and electronic music to be a thriving medium. Well if I aSPIRE to be Brach then Eric Spire is Picasso to me and i want to be his friend. thank Silver Pearl for their continued hospitality and patience and thank Gresham for hipping me to my drastic over sight. and thank you Eric. I mean what i say. If anyone thinks that i am trying to elevate myself to compare myself to the cubists, i say to them "you are right." Love and Compassion, jonas ---Gresham Hendee wrote: > > You listed your entire line-up except for Eric Spire, why? > > Just thought it was a little odd. > > Peace, > Gresham > > Joaqman wrote: > > > i just wanted to give a big thank you for the > > onederful feeling that was brought by everyone that > > attended the RedRoom last friday. > > > > i saw lotso peeple that have become closer and > > closer. when i took out my magic looking glass i saw > > and michael and dave and sarah and owen and joe and > > sarood and virginia and dave w. and bj and gabe and > > josh and sensei and david and lautaro and tito and > > rebecca and many many more... > > > > the sound was great for this lil spot near ashby. > > thanks Jay, aka Budless Bundy. let's do it again. > > > > the dj's were magnificent!!! rebecca tore it up and > > bloom ripped it some more! then tasho slammed that > > sh*t down! > > and then the men in blue came...... > > > > sorrry about that..... > > > > that's when the main sound left, but there was plenty > > more cuz just five minutes later. the back-up sound > > started up and we were treated to the soundz of John > > Rodriguez. I feel like Jack London when i say to > > promoters, "Book him Danno". John gave a marvelous > > performance and stayed really late. thanks John. > > > > then i, jonas robledo, being of un-sound body and > > mind (hey, come on it was fuggin' 5am), took the > > decks and really rilly played house. o.k. there was > > one cari lekebusch trak, but it's a housier gentler > > tekno. > > > > after i just about literally fell ova, my boy JD, > > all the way from Lost Angels continued the house vibe > > and then stopped!!! ded. drum & bass began to fill > > the room or was it one of my vivd dreems? no matter, > > i, with the other head strong continued to move and > > then we all fell down at about 7:30......whewwww. > > > > needless to say i slept and dreamt about me, you and > > the one that is everything..... > > > > kung-felt thanks you > > cybertropic thanks you > > 5 families thanks you, > > thanks you you, > > > > joaqman, can't believe it's monday alreddy. > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 00:01:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 336 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 00:01:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 315 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 00:01:13 -0000 Received: from web107.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.74) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 00:01:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990518000216.14333.rocketmail@web107.yahoomail.com> Received: from [206.111.131.80] by web107.yahoomail.com; Mon, 17 May 1999 17:02:16 PDT Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:02:16 -0700 (PDT) From: zeel Subject: BSP: zeel's mix tape is in the store.. yay! :=) To: djzeel@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Just a quick note that my melodic/progressive trance tape 'Perpetuum Mobile' is available in Frequency-8 on haight street, as well in Distraction @ 1552 Haight. The tapes are still available via mail order - send a check for $10 to 927 Hampshire Street, SF, CA 94110. Thanks, zeel. === zeel [djzeel@yahoo.com] <--- dj for the unconscious masses http://www.mp3.com/djzeel/ <--- you found my mp3 tracks! Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 00:01:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1078 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 00:01:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 1066 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 00:01:45 -0000 Received: from pimout4-ext.prodigy.net (HELO pimout4-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.58.198) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 00:01:45 -0000 Received: from prodigy.net (SNFCB210-25.splitrock.net [209.156.149.140]) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA50124; Mon, 17 May 1999 20:01:35 -0400 Message-ID: <3740AD11.87971E6A@prodigy.net> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:58:09 -0700 From: JOELANZON Reply-To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Adair CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Headphones.. References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------76E9104F365E59817D103931" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --------------76E9104F365E59817D103931 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Heya Greg, Since this seems to be a recycled question, here is my handy recycled reply. You'll find your answers to your questions within. Hope this helps - Headphones is the one thing, well besides turntables, that you DON'T want to skimp on. Get a good pair right off the bat and it'll improve your mixing learning curve in the beginning as well as save your hearing and improve your mixing ability in the long. Sennheiser have always made great headphones, but for DJing you have to be careful which model you choose. The 'open' ear ones are terrible for DJing since they have the the foam padding which lets the outside sounds in which makes it hard to cue in the mostly unDJ friendly mix environments at most parties. Those ones are more suited for broadcast type work or studio work. Other headphones to consider are of course the standard sonys everybody has, or on the different tip the Technics RP DJ 1200's which are real good and the Pioneer SE DJ 5000's which are REAL loud, (pair these up with the headphone jack on the Rane and you could use these headphones as monitor speakers!) As far as prices you can purchase the pretty much standard sony's for anywhere from 70 - 100 bucks depending where you go and sales and such. But as far as the Sennheisers they're pretty expensive, ranging from 150 - 250. The Technics I mentioned are usually about 150, and the Pioneers are about 140. Usually DJs use the Sonys because they're cheap and they sound good. Which is a definate plus, but check out several different headphones when you go to buy, you might find you like the more expensive ones better, or some might fit your head better than others, etc. I personally found the sonys to boomy, and I use some top of the line Denon DH950's which cost me about 140. I've had them for like 4 years now. And when they go out I'll get the Pioneer SE-DJ5000's. One thing to note, Beside the Pioneer , Technics, and one type of Sennheiser ,headphones were not created specifically for DJs so some don't stand up well to the high demands of DJs. Many very good and expensive headphones sound superb for studio , broadcast , and home use, but fall extremely short in the high sound pressure levels of a club or rave environment. Always buy the 'closed' ear kind of headphones and when your looking at the different kinds of headphones, look at there 'sensitivity' ratings. The 'higher' the sensitivity rating, the 'louder' the headphones will play. The Pioneers have a very high sensitivity rating for example. By the way, Good Guys will special order the Sennheiser headphones of your choice if you decide on those and you can't find them elsewhere. They also carrying the Denon model that I use. And most other music store chains such as PSSL and Guitar Center should have the Pioneer, Sony and Technics brands. hope this helps, if you have anymore questions feel free to ask. Misc. Links for headphones http://www.sennheiserusa.com/ http://www.pioneer-eur.com/products/multimed/djsounds/prosaccs.htm http://www.pssl.com -peace- Joe Lanzon Greg Adair wrote: > Ok kids.. I need some opionions here.. I am gonna grab a new pair of > headphones... I LOVE my old pair, but they are a pair of studio > headphones. They are perfect for my living room, studio work, etc, > but NOT for playing out... They are not loud enough... I am tired of not > sounding my best because of equipment limitations, and am finally in a > position to plop down a sizeable chunk of change for a badass pair of > headphones.. I gave up on noise-cancelling headphones because the > cheapest pair I could find were $700, so scratch that idea... I would be > cool with paying up to 150 + tax, which is right about where the > technics-1200DJ set is, but I know all too well that big $$$ doesnt equal > best quality, not to mention that I have never actually used a pair... > The pioneer set that are about 130 look really nice too, but I would > really like the opionion of somebody that has used quite a few > different pairs... > > GregerE > > ohyeah... if you could reply privately, i bet about 500 other SFRavers > would be grateful.. thx.. --------------76E9104F365E59817D103931 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Heya Greg,

Since this seems to be a recycled question, here is my handy recycled reply.
You'll find your answers to your questions within.  Hope this helps -

Headphones is the one thing, well besides turntables, that you DON'T want to
skimp on.  Get a good pair right off the bat and it'll  improve your mixing
learning curve in the beginning as well as save your hearing and improve
your mixing ability in the long.

Sennheiser have always made great headphones, but for DJing you have to
be careful which model you choose. The 'open' ear ones are terrible for
DJing  since they have the the foam  padding which lets the outside
sounds in which makes it hard to cue in the mostly unDJ friendly mix
environments at most parties.  Those ones are more suited for broadcast
type work or studio work.

Other headphones to consider are of course the standard sonys everybody
has, or on the different tip the Technics RP DJ 1200's which are real
good and the Pioneer SE DJ 5000's which are REAL loud, (pair these up
with the headphone jack on the Rane and you could use these headphones
as monitor speakers!)

As far as prices you can purchase the pretty much standard sony's for
anywhere from 70 - 100 bucks depending where you go and sales and such.  But as far
as the Sennheisers they're pretty expensive, ranging from 150 - 250.  The
Technics I mentioned are usually about 150, and the Pioneers are about 140.  Usually
DJs use the Sonys because they're cheap and they sound good.  Which is a
definate plus, but check out several different headphones when you go to buy, you
might find you like the more expensive ones better, or some might fit your head
better than others, etc.

I personally found the sonys to boomy, and I use some top of the line Denon
DH950's which cost me about 140.  I've had them for like 4 years now.  And
when they go out I'll get the Pioneer SE-DJ5000's.

One thing to note, Beside the Pioneer , Technics, and one type of Sennheiser
,headphones were not created  specifically for DJs so some don't stand up
well to the high demands of DJs.  Many very good and expensive headphones sound superb for studio , broadcast , and home use, but fall extremely short in the high sound
pressure levels of a club or rave environment.  Always buy the 'closed' ear kind of headphones and when your looking at the different kinds of headphones, look at there 'sensitivity' ratings.  The 'higher' the sensitivity rating, the 'louder' the headphones will play.  The Pioneers have a very high sensitivity rating for example.

By the way, Good Guys will special order the Sennheiser headphones of your
choice if you decide on those and you can't find them elsewhere. They also
carrying the Denon model that I use.  And most other music store chains such
as PSSL and Guitar Center should have the Pioneer, Sony and Technics brands.

hope this helps, if you have anymore questions feel free to ask.

Misc. Links for headphones
http://www.sennheiserusa.com/
http://www.pioneer-eur.com/products/multimed/djsounds/prosaccs.htm
http://www.pssl.com

-peace- Joe Lanzon
 
 

Greg Adair wrote:

Ok kids.. I need some opionions here.. I am gonna grab a new pair of
headphones... I LOVE my old pair, but they are a pair of studio
headphones.  They are perfect for my living room, studio work, etc,
but NOT for playing out... They are not loud enough...  I am tired of not
sounding my best because of equipment limitations, and am finally in a
position to plop down a sizeable chunk of change for a badass pair of
headphones..  I gave up on noise-cancelling headphones because the
cheapest pair I could find were $700, so scratch that idea... I would be
cool with paying up to 150 + tax, which is right about where the
technics-1200DJ set is, but I know all too well that big $$$ doesnt equal
best quality, not to mention that I have never actually used a pair...
The pioneer set that are about 130 look really nice too, but I would
really like the opionion of somebody that has used quite a few
different pairs...

GregerE

ohyeah... if you could reply privately, i bet about 500 other SFRavers
would be grateful.. thx..

--------------76E9104F365E59817D103931-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 00:11:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6028 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 00:11:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 6020 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 00:11:56 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd85.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.149) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 00:11:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 70560 invoked by uid 0); 18 May 1999 00:14:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19990518001435.70559.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.111.184.105 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 17 May 1999 17:14:35 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.111.184.105] From: "Justin Hale" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: small group theory party last saturday... Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:14:35 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk just a quick note to say thanks to the guys from the group theory benefit party on saturday. tho basically nobody showed up, and monitors weren't all that great, we made the best of it. it was a pretty nice space, tho basically NO decorations. one blacklight. glad it was small tho, for the amount of people that actually showed. i played my heart out for those 25 or so, and at least they danced... thanks to the always positive joaqman, i had a good time checkin out your sounds... hope we play together again real soon. maybe next time in front of people! til next time. keep it simple. justin From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 00:36:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15231 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 00:36:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 15218 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 00:36:03 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 00:36:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19990518001900.2254.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.170.3.37] by web1; Mon, 17 May 1999 17:19:00 PDT Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:19:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Joaqman Subject: Re: small group theory party last saturday... To: Justin Hale , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk dear people, even tho justin is right about it being small, i found the party to be very enjoyable. thanks to colin and hans for organizing the show. and don't let justin hale fool you, i may be positive, but i got ears, and i'm positive justin hale rocks! i saw him for the first time @ V.O.R.G. and i'm sayin' it again. rocks rox roks. yes, i can't wait to be on the bill with him again. syed did a good job with the trance too, but i didn't get to hear him for very long. i did my best and when i was done playin' there was no one left....... wait is that good b/c i'm such a record addicthead that i don't notice when there aren't any people left and that i am hardcore enuff to keep going just like the days of sven vath or sasha doing 8+ hour sets .......or.... is that bad b/c i cleared the floor..... you be the judge joe and i'll be the judge judy, does someone want to be judge former mayor koch??? i watch too much t.v., joaqman ---Justin Hale wrote: > > just a quick note to say thanks to the guys from the group theory benefit > party on saturday. tho basically nobody showed up, and monitors weren't all > that great, we made the best of it. it was a pretty nice space, tho > basically NO decorations. one blacklight. glad it was small tho, for the > amount of people that actually showed. i played my heart out for those 25 or > so, and at least they danced... > thanks to the always positive joaqman, i had a good time checkin out your > sounds... hope we play together again real soon. maybe next time in front of > people! > > til next time. > > keep it simple. > > justin > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 00:38:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17640 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 00:38:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 17468 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 00:38:44 -0000 Received: from mail8.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.42) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 00:38:44 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (ABD6924A.ipt.aol.com [171.214.146.74]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA25280; Mon, 17 May 1999 17:38:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3740B6DE.81189F1B@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:39:59 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rafie CC: chep_plur@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Review of my finding in RENO References: <199905170845.BAA13193@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You were worse than me you bitch! Spitting everywhere! I think there was something in all that greek food we had! =Paul*E*Wog Rafie wrote: > > Sounds like someone did too much acid this weekend. > > Rafie > PS Paul*E*Wog has ADD and hyperactivity disorder...it's confirmed > > On Sun, 16 May 1999 19:10:22 -0700 (PDT), > chep_plur@yahoo.com wrote... > >Hello Everyone, > > > >and yes, I am also cracked out this Sunday morning. > >It is almost inevitable that we all share this same > >experience when journeying to a rave over the weekend. > > Rather it be local, another state, or even a distance > >galaxy we all end up 99.9 % utitlized. So, now we > >must defrag and everyone knows how long > >defragmentation takes. But, still there is always > >that one lost cluster that bugs you for the week. My > >lost cluster is this beautiful person I met over the > >weekend. Her name is Samantha. Hella-cool, > >hella-tight, hella-dancer and if you are reading this > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 00:45:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21282 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 00:45:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 21274 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 00:45:30 -0000 Received: from mail8.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.42) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 00:45:30 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (ABD6924A.ipt.aol.com [171.214.146.74]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00947 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 17:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3740B878.78BF82D8@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:46:48 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: Doctor Says Lewis Didn't Use Drugs Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------0AA8B239CA40E16C85087EEF" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0AA8B239CA40E16C85087EEF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------0AA8B239CA40E16C85087EEF Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11707 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 16:27:10 -0700 (PDT) From: PaulxExWog@aol.com Received: from PaulxExWog@aol.com (14373) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 7SYGa16141 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 19:25:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 19:25:04 EDT Subject: Fwd: Doctor Says Lewis Didn't Use Drugs To: goodvibe@geocities.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_b26b029a.2471ff50_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 --part1_b26b029a.2471ff50_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_b26b029a.2471ff50_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: AOLNews@aol.com From: AOLNews@aol.com Full-name: AOL News Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 19:13:06 EDT Subject: Doctor Says Lewis Didn't Use Drugs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) To: undisclosed-recipients:; Doctor Says Lewis Didn't Use Drugs .c The Associated Press BOSTON (AP) -- The doctor who performed an autopsy on Celtics captain Reggie Lewis after he died while practicing jump shots testified Monday he did not see evidence the player used cocaine. Dr. Richard Evans, the state medical examiner, said he believed a virus caused the cardiac arrhythmia that killed the 27-year-old Boston star in July 1993. Lewis' widow, Donna Harris-Lewis, is suing three doctors who treated her husband, claiming they misdiagnosed and mistreated a fatal heart condition. Alleged cocaine use by Lewis is expected to be a central issue when Dr. Gilbert Mudge, the player's main cardiologist, presents his case. Mudge's attorney has said that two weeks before Lewis' death the player said he used the drug, and the late admission made an accurate diagnosis impossible. Mudge told Lewis he suffered from a neurological condition that causes fainting spells, while earlier a ``Dream Team'' of 12 doctors diagnosed him with a life-threatening arrhythmia. Under questioning by Harris-Lewis' attorney, Evans said scarring found on Lewis' heart was likely caused by a virus. Lewis' official cause of death was listed as adenovirus 2, which could have led to inflammation of the heart, widespread scarring of tissue and, ultimately, a fatal cardiac arrest. Scarring also can be caused by cocaine use. ``There was no indication this man had been a chronic user of this drug,'' Evans said, adding the scarring Lewis had would be ``atypical'' for a drug user. On cross-examination, Mudge's attorney, Richard Dailey Jr., suggested at least five of seven consultants called in by Evans to examine Lewis' body did not agree with his findings, and some felt the scarring was consistent with cocaine use. Dailey suggested the virus could have been present, but that there still could have been a number of other problems. AP-NY-05-17-99 1912EDT Copyright 1998 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without prior written authority of The Associated Press. 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For all of today's news, go to keyword News. --part1_b26b029a.2471ff50_boundary-- --------------0AA8B239CA40E16C85087EEF-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 00:46:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22005 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 00:46:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 21994 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 00:46:11 -0000 Received: from mail2.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 00:46:11 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (ABD6924A.ipt.aol.com [171.214.146.74]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA21664 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 17:44:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3740B8A2.DB156CE4@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:47:30 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: Report: Drug Trials Hiding Conflicts Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------860FAB29EC7741F5261D1306" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------860FAB29EC7741F5261D1306 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------860FAB29EC7741F5261D1306 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07417 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 14:50:32 -0700 (PDT) From: PaulxExWog@aol.com Received: from PaulxExWog@aol.com (14373) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 7QYYa03427 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 17:50:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:50:21 EDT Subject: Fwd: Report: Drug Trials Hiding Conflicts To: goodvibe@geocities.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_abf9557e.2471e91d_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 --part1_abf9557e.2471e91d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_abf9557e.2471e91d_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: AOLNews@aol.com From: AOLNews@aol.com Full-name: AOL News Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 22:10:01 EDT Subject: Report: Drug Trials Hiding Conflicts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) To: undisclosed-recipients:; Report: Drug Trials Hiding Conflicts .c The Associated Press NEW YORK (AP) -- Hundreds of thousands of patients are being recruited by their personal physicians into a booming venture for doctors -- the business of testing experimental drugs on people, The New York Times reports in its Sunday editions. The newspaper said a 10-month investigation revealed a system that is fraught with conflicts of interest; that relies on government and private monitoring that can be easily fooled and that some researchers said is inadequate; and that secretly offers a share of the cash to other health professionals who might influence patients to join a study. The number of private doctors in research since 1990 has almost tripled, and top recruiters can earn as much as $500,000 to $1 million a year, according to the story, which was based on confidential documents and interviews. This new system is a boon for drug companies because it reaches out to a vast pool of test subjects who have never before been available for experimentation. But it also injects the interests of a giant industry into the delicate doctor-patient relationship, usually without the patient realizing it. Among the specific findings of the Times' investigation: Drug companies and their contractors offer large payments to doctors, nurses and other medical staff to encourage them to recruit patients quickly. And doctors do not even have to conduct trials to get paid: There are finder's fees for those who refer their patients to other doctors conducting research. Doctors who recruit the most patients receive additional perquisites, such as the right to claim a coveted authorship of published papers about the studies -- even though the true author is a ghostwriter using analysis from the drug company. Those who fail to meet the recruitment goals are usually dropped from future studies. Testing companies often use doctors as clinical investigators regardless of their specialty, at times leaving patients in the care of doctors who know little about their condition. For example, psychiatrists have conducted Pap smears and asthma specialists have dispensed experimental psychiatric drugs. A growing number of doctors conducting drug research have limited experience as clinical investigators, raising questions among some experts about the quality of their data. AP-NY-05-15-99 2209EDT Copyright 1998 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without prior written authority of The Associated Press. To edit your profile, go to keyword NewsProfiles . For all of today's news, go to keyword News. --part1_abf9557e.2471e91d_boundary-- --------------860FAB29EC7741F5261D1306-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 00:46:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22697 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 00:46:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 22678 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 00:46:38 -0000 Received: from mail2.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 00:46:38 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (ABD6924A.ipt.aol.com [171.214.146.74]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22015 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 17:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3740B8BF.1D112C94@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:47:59 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: China Exhibition Shows Drug Dangers Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------672C95839F3E88E39D1385B1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------672C95839F3E88E39D1385B1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------672C95839F3E88E39D1385B1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23761 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 14:56:18 -0700 (PDT) From: PaulxExWog@aol.com Received: from PaulxExWog@aol.com (14373) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 7SMZa02624 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 17:56:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:56:38 EDT Subject: Fwd: China Exhibition Shows Drug Dangers To: goodvibe@geocities.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_da55df34.2471ea96_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 --part1_da55df34.2471ea96_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_da55df34.2471ea96_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: AOLNews@aol.com From: AOLNews@aol.com Full-name: AOL News Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 11:45:25 EDT Subject: China Exhibition Shows Drug Dangers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) To: undisclosed-recipients:; China Exhibition Shows Drug Dangers .c The Associated Press BEIJING (AP) -- Pointing to growing concern over drug abuse in the capital, Chinese officials have launched a multimedia exhibition to educate young people of the dangers of illegal drugs, the Beijing Youth Daily reported Sunday. The exhibit, located next to a bustling wholesale vegetable market, includes photographs, essays and paintings, some mounted on 10-foot-high display boards, the paper said. Heroin, hashish, opium and other drugs are believed to be widely available in Beijing, despite harsh penalties imposed on drug traffickers -- including death. Students say sniffing pure heroin has become popular among affluent young people in the capital. China takes a moralistic approach to prevention, with little counseling for addicts and virtually no formal support after they complete court-imposed terms in rehabilitation centers. AP-NY-05-16-99 1145EDT Copyright 1998 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without prior written authority of The Associated Press. To edit your profile, go to keyword NewsProfiles . For all of today's news, go to keyword News. --part1_da55df34.2471ea96_boundary-- --------------672C95839F3E88E39D1385B1-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 00:46:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23227 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 00:46:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 23070 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 00:46:53 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 00:46:53 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id TAA17954 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 19:46:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca1-75.ix.netcom.com(209.109.232.75) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma017894; Mon May 17 19:45:34 1999 Message-ID: <373EE8A5.2AF7@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 07:47:51 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: [Fwd: Re: FREEDOM!!] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > > Yeah, the race track was easier to get too...but so much dust! and nowhere near > as gorgeous a location as Angels Camp. I totally agree! The Dust Bowl was way closer to home, but every time you started to groove, tons of dust was in your face ;() The definate plus about that place though is the mountain that everyone climbs at sunset, IT'S DAMN BEAUTIFUL. Angels Camp is a totally kick ass place though. I love camping, so I didn't mind the drive at all, except if I'd had come really late at night(like alot of people) I would of freaked out trying to drive on that tiny road. There was soo much space, areas to hike and even a river to swim inn. I'm a faithful 'choice pro.' Freedom party kid, So I 'm going no matter where the location. Peace Elizabeth Personally I like traveling to an outdoor > in the summer, it lends an air of adventure to the whole experience. And that > road in was definitly an adventure. To me that location is well worth the drive. > I cant wait till the 4th! > > john r > > Jennifer and Daniel Herron wrote: > > > Madhvi Dalal wrote: > > > > > i was really really upset when i read this, but then i checked the SFR > > > calendar myself and it doesn't say anything about Freedom being a > > > one-niter...are we perhaps talking about different events here? I'm > > > thinking of freedom as in 4th of July freedom, and from all my sources i've > > > heard it's going to be in the exact same place as last year (near calaveras > > > county so we do the jumping frog :-). I'm making the trek up from San > > > Diego, and i don't know what racetrack is referred to, but it sounds wacked! > > > > Ugh! What was whacked was the drive to that new place. Not only did it > > take forever and a day to get there and forever and a day to get home > > again, in case you were unhappy with the situation you were trapped > > there forever!!! I'd take the racetrack any day. It was close and it had > > that great mountain that I had one of the most spiritual experiences in > > my life on. > > Jennifer aka Chrysallys From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 00:50:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26036 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 00:50:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 25925 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 00:50:09 -0000 Received: from mail2.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 00:50:09 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (ABD6924A.ipt.aol.com [171.214.146.74]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA24793; Mon, 17 May 1999 17:48:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3740B986.DA64CB06@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:51:18 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Elizabeth Traver CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: FREEDOM!!] References: <373EE8A5.2AF7@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk All you did was fuck in the tent so it does not really matter anyways, Liz. Carla knows how to eat snatch. =Paul*E*Wog Elizabeth Traver wrote: > > > > > Yeah, the race track was easier to get too...but so much dust! and nowhere near > > as gorgeous a location as Angels Camp. > > I totally agree! The Dust Bowl was way closer to home, but every time > you started to groove, tons of dust was in your face ;() The definate > plus about that place though is the mountain that everyone climbs at > sunset, IT'S DAMN BEAUTIFUL. > > Angels Camp is a totally kick ass place though. I love camping, so I > didn't mind the drive at all, except if I'd had come really late at > night(like alot of people) I would of freaked out trying to drive on > that tiny road. There was soo much space, areas to hike and even a > river to swim inn. > > I'm a faithful 'choice pro.' Freedom party kid, So I 'm going no matter > where the location. > > Peace > Elizabeth > > Personally I like traveling to an outdoor > > in the summer, it lends an air of adventure to the whole experience. And that > > road in was definitly an adventure. To me that location is well worth the drive. > > I cant wait till the 4th! > > > > john r > > > > Jennifer and Daniel Herron wrote: > > > > > Madhvi Dalal wrote: > > > > > > > i was really really upset when i read this, but then i checked the SFR > > > > calendar myself and it doesn't say anything about Freedom being a > > > > one-niter...are we perhaps talking about different events here? I'm > > > > thinking of freedom as in 4th of July freedom, and from all my sources i've > > > > heard it's going to be in the exact same place as last year (near calaveras > > > > county so we do the jumping frog :-). I'm making the trek up from San > > > > Diego, and i don't know what racetrack is referred to, but it sounds wacked! > > > > > > Ugh! What was whacked was the drive to that new place. Not only did it > > > take forever and a day to get there and forever and a day to get home > > > again, in case you were unhappy with the situation you were trapped > > > there forever!!! I'd take the racetrack any day. It was close and it had > > > that great mountain that I had one of the most spiritual experiences in > > > my life on. > > > Jennifer aka Chrysallys From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 01:04:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4214 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 01:04:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 4205 invoked by uid 233); 18 May 1999 01:04:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 27178 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 02:39:30 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 May 1999 02:39:30 -0000 Received: from Naomi0211@aol.com (551) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vXJOa05051 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 22:38:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Naomi0211@aol.com Message-ID: <55bca8ce.2470db0b@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 22:38:03 EDT Subject: Weekend Review - Ethereal & Tha Formula To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Friday night!! I wasn't even planning on going to Ethereal, until I heard that my boy Megatron was spinning there!! So then I had to show up. Then I heard that Marty was throwing the party!! Even better! First we had to stop in Berkeley and pick up Scott, Angela and Megatron...aka...Mike! Then off to 550 Barnevald. I had never been to this location before, and I must say, it is PHAT!! It's really laid out good, I loved the Ambient room, how it was overlooking the trance room. Anyway. I mostly stayed in the Jungle room!! There were so many people from SFR there, I couldn't believe it!! I met a lot of cool people that night. I didn't get to actually meet AndyW, but I finally got to see him. He was ripping up the dance floor too!! LOL And Jess ica, What's up girl? DUH was on the Mic and off the hook!! I always enjoy hearing him MC! Congrats, Science, for finishing your law school!! (I think that's what you told me, anyway!) Megatron's set was the dopest! I was very impressed with the tracks he played and his mixing skills. Although I guess I don't know much about spinning, I do know what I like. And I really enjoyed his set. One of the security guards gave me some No-Doz when he caught me sleeping!! LOL I was very awake until last night!! I have never been that damn awake in a long time, it was such a weird feeling. Anyway, Congratulations, Marty, for throwing such a great party!! I had a lot of fun there, and I was really comfortable! I felt like I was hanging out with a bunch of really close friends all night. It was great. I hope your *plan* works out for you! I'd surely BE THERE!! Saturday.... My boyfriend, Markis, and I met John (the coolest cat of them all!!) at this great veggie chinese place in Berkeley before Tha Formula. It was great. I didn't think John would really like it, but he did!! YAY Then we went to Compound Records to pick up that new 4-pack tape...I think it's called Hardware or something!! It's DOPE!! I haven't even listened to all of them yet, but from what I have heard it's GREAT! It was recorded live in London, with a few MC's too. We also got the DJ SS tape, which I've heard and fallen in love with!! It was recorded live at Nikita and it's off the hook. He plays all the dope ass beats on that tape! Anyway, this is not a tape review, so I'll shut up about that now. Tha Formula was OFF THE HOOK!! At first I thought that no one was going to show up, since First Light also had a cool lineup and it was an all ages party. The security at Tha Formula was NOT letting anyone in under 18, so I'm sure tons of kids got turned away. (Next time, please put that one the FLYER so people know!!) At first I was down in the basement for a while. When I came back upstairs it was PACKED!! I was like "Where did all these people come from?!?" LOL There was this one DJ, I think his name was Soul Slinger, I was LOVING HIS SET!! He was so fucking dope. I really enjoyed his set. I wish he was a SF Junglist!! 1.8.7. played (of course) the BEST set that night!! I didn't stay upstairs for all of it (I got sooo tired, and had to sit down!) but I heard most of it and it was GREAT!! It's so refreshing to see female Jungle DJ's that are that dope!! Well, I had a great weekend!! Even though I couldn't get to sleep at all on Friday night/morning (I got about 4 hours sleep total, thanks to those damn no-doz pills!!) I had so much fun!! I wish there were parties like that every weekend!! I had more fun at 550 Barnevald though, because of the atmosphere, I felt like I was hanging out with old friends, but the music at Tha Formula was most DEFINITELY better!! Well kids, I'm out!! Naomi Thompson From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 01:08:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7015 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 01:08:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 6993 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 01:08:36 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 01:08:36 -0000 Received: from Taiida@aol.com (2719) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vCCFa04194 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 21:07:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Taiida@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 21:07:17 EDT Subject: My First Light; Full of Surprises To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok...Well...It's Monday and I'm finally posting my lil long review. I didn't get to do this yesterday, cause after getting home yesterday morning, I had to work at 7:00 am and worked til 4:00 p.m.(9 hrs straight, no break) Went home and straight to bed at 4:30 p.m. and woke up at 8:00 a.m. this morning (16 hrs sleep total all the way through). I have so much to say about this kick ass party. so I just have to do this now. First of all, Everything about that party was soooo awesome (Lighting, sound, Vibes, EVERYTHING!!), My compliments to the whole First Light Crew. Not to mention the all the vibes. It was crowded and all but everybody all had good vibes. I saw no one pulling any attitudes with anyone, pushing and shoving, or anything like that. It was great. I was soooo glad I had an extra ticket so that I could bring my japanese cowboy crush, Matt, who I like very, very much, to his first rave. He loved this party so much that he even said that he would love to go to another party. I thought I wouldn't ever do E again because I thought he didn't like drugs at all, but after wandering around and dancing our asses off for the first part of the nite, he asked me about trying E for the first time. Man! Was I surprised he asked that. He asked me if I was going to do it, and I told him I didn't want to, but then I asked him if he wanted me to. And he said yeah, ok. I was so happy!!!! So I found this girl who another friend introduced me to that was selling some really good E and I bought 2 E. I didn't think it would hit me so hard and I wanted to take care of Matt and all, but it did just the opposite. I danced and danced and when all of a sudden I felt it hard and was floored and then Matt started taking care of me. It just made Matt keep right on dancing. At this party I ran into 2 old friends that I hadn't seen in such a long time. One was While I was floored, however, I totally found someone that I met on New Year's at Origin. I totally didn't know if I would see him again, but when his cousin told me that he remembered me and asked if I remembered him and his cousin, I was like, all, happy and surprised. I mean, how can I forget my first guy I ever E-tripped with. I still had one of his fuzzy necklaces that when I saw him I told him that and he told me it was mine. I didn't mean to keep it, but I totally lost him at the Origin and never saw him til saturday nite. Another friend I ran into was someone from one of my old jobs. I was totally amazed that he had become a raver. I didn't know that was him til he took off his gas mask. This party was so full of surprises. Hope to see all you soon! Maybe at Metropolis! I LOVE U GUYS!!!!!!! especially Matt. =) Luv n Hugz n Stuff, *muuahhh!! Tami =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 01:15:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10819 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 01:15:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 10806 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 01:15:30 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 01:15:30 -0000 Received: from Taiida@aol.com (15553) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPLBa24273 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 21:14:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Taiida@aol.com Message-ID: <38cc4e1f.247218fe@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 21:14:38 EDT Subject: Re: My First Light; Full of Surprises To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I totally forgot about the DJ's. MY BAD!! But that went with EVERYTHING!!! All the DJ's were awesome. I am totally starting to indentify who are the DJ's when I get to a party. I love Mars and Mystere. I was telling Matt about them and their tracks and stuff and how I love it. Well, I think that's it now. C-ya'll!!! =) Tami From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 01:19:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12845 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 01:19:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 12824 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 01:19:30 -0000 Received: from pop04.iname.net (165.251.8.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 01:19:30 -0000 Received: from tar-and-gravel ([206.25.144.218]) by pop04.iname.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id VAA00667 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 21:19:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990817172550.0370a1a0@shell4.ba.best.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:18:25 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: ry-N Subject: BP: Faith this Thursday In-Reply-To: <19990518001435.70559.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk For all you trancebabies out there lookin for something fun to do this thursday check out Tracer will be spinning at Club Faith on Thursday ... Faith is a GAY club but friendly ravers are always welcome. So here is the deal: CLUB FAITH - 3rd and Harrison in SF DJs: Reuben Mancias (house) Blackstone (who promises not to spin any cher) TRACER (2 hour trance set) AGES: 18+ (with ID) Cover: free before 11, $10 after If any of you SFravers are interested in going email me privately and ill put you on da guest list. hope to see you all there ... ryan ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 01:39:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23569 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 01:39:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 23558 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 01:39:07 -0000 Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (206.253.129.185) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 01:39:07 -0000 Received: from tar-and-gravel ([206.25.144.218]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id VAA18016 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 21:38:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990817183810.036faa50@shell4.ba.best.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:39:33 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: ry-N Subject: Re: BP: Faith this Thursday In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990817172550.0370a1a0@shell4.ba.best.com> References: <19990518001435.70559.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk should have gone without saying ... but if you want on the list you DO have to email me your name ... also ... I forgot to mention ... doors open at 9:30 .. club goes till 3am ... Tracer is on from 1-3 ryan At 06:18 PM 8/17/99 , ry-N wrote: >For all you trancebabies out there lookin for something fun to do this >thursday check out Tracer will be spinning at Club Faith on Thursday ... > >Faith is a GAY club but friendly ravers are always welcome. > >So here is the deal: > >CLUB FAITH - 3rd and Harrison in SF >DJs: Reuben Mancias (house) > Blackstone (who promises not to spin any cher) > TRACER (2 hour trance set) >AGES: 18+ (with ID) > >Cover: free before 11, $10 after > >If any of you SFravers are interested in going email me privately and ill >put you on da guest list. > >hope to see you all there ... > >ryan > > > > > > > > > > ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me >******* > ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 01:43:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25851 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 01:43:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 25707 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 01:43:31 -0000 Received: from fillmore0.paix.cp.net (HELO fillmore.criticalpath.net) (209.228.15.76) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 01:43:31 -0000 Received: (cpmta 23870 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 18:43:30 -0700 Date: 17 May 1999 18:43:30 -0700 Message-ID: <19990518014330.23869.cpmta@fillmore.criticalpath.net> X-Sent: 18 May 1999 01:43:30 GMT Received: from [207.251.8.126] by mail.club.net with HTTP; 17 May 1999 18:43:30 PDT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Tabitha Hanrion X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.0 Subject: s/heBANG! Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk After all the models had worked it on the catwalk I looked over at my neighbor on the couch and said, "I'm just so proud to know these people!" It was one of those things that just spilled out of my mouth without much thought. It came from my heart and I didn't let my brain over think it too much. It was *real*. I'm proud of the designers for sharing with us their talent. I'm proud of the models for having the nerve to get up there and show it off. I'm proud of Brian for giving us the sound track for such a beautiful show. I'm proud of Terry and Mike for having such amazing visuals that complimented but didn't distract. I'm proud of the folks that paid 10 bucks to support something different from the cookie cutter *rave*. Most of all I thank the Cloud Factory Collective for providing the perfect environment for something like we had on Saturday night. Never thought I'd find a group I call family and mean it as if they were blood sisters and brothers. With Cloud Factory I have. Cheesy as all get out I know... tabitha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 01:43:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25881 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 01:43:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 25760 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 01:43:35 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 01:43:35 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-a1 (mmf2.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.65]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA08149; Mon, 17 May 1999 18:43:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905180143.SAA08149@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: goodvibe@geocities.com From: "Rafie" Subject: Re: Review of my finding in RENO CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:49:18 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, at least I don't have Turrett's. And I don't shop at Hot Topic. And when I eat food I don't make a mess and smear it all over my face and use up all the napkins Rafie PS Yamero, baka! On Mon, 17 May 1999 17:39:59 -0700, goodvibe@geocities.com wrote... >You were worse than me you bitch! Spitting everywhere! I think there was >something in all that greek food we had! > >=Paul*E*Wog > >Rafie wrote: >> >> Sounds like someone did too much acid this weekend. >> >> Rafie >> PS Paul*E*Wog has ADD and hyperactivity disorder...it's confirmed >> >> On Sun, 16 May 1999 19:10:22 -0700 (PDT), >> chep_plur@yahoo.com wrote... >> >Hello Everyone, >> > >> >and yes, I am also cracked out this Sunday morning. >> >It is almost inevitable that we all share this same >> >experience when journeying to a rave over the weekend. >> > Rather it be local, another state, or even a distance >> >galaxy we all end up 99.9 % utitlized. So, now we >> >must defrag and everyone knows how long >> >defragmentation takes. But, still there is always >> >that one lost cluster that bugs you for the week. My >> >lost cluster is this beautiful person I met over the >> >weekend. Her name is Samantha. Hella-cool, >> >hella-tight, hella-dancer and if you are reading this >> > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 02:47:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24658 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 02:47:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 24605 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 02:47:00 -0000 Received: from dot.crosswinds.net (204.50.152.131) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 02:47:00 -0000 Received: from panduhboi (ip41.san-francisco31.ca.pub-ip.psi.net [38.28.81.41]) by dot.crosswinds.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA11918 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 22:53:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from nemo@crosswinds.net) Message-ID: <002301bea0d7$ab9a9500$29511c26@panduhboi> From: "Anton" To: "sfraves" Subject: ...speaking of Water Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 19:39:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01BEA09C.FCD03B40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BEA09C.FCD03B40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i wasn't going 2 originally share this, because i didn't think many = people would care... but then ppl started talkin' about water. SO-- at 1st Light ( i had a GREAT time btw ), me an' mah friend were sharing = water for the first few hours and then i bought a bunch of water and we = shared off that... but we both bought our water originally from the = Water table or whatever, but like him and i ONLY shared... and about 2 = hours into the party, we BOTH started rollin. we brought it up to = eachother at the SAME exact time... i started feeling tingly, and RIGHT = when i thought that, he turns to me and sez he helluv felt like he was = on E. it was SOOOOOO crazy... whatever it was, it was really mild... = and it was a nice little roll & best of all... we didn't have to PAY! = but did this happen 2 anyone else at 1st Light by any chance? i mean = i'm SURE the water wasn't contaminated BEHIND the counter, but still... = just curious. =3D) Much Lub, Anton ( nEmo ) Panduh ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BEA09C.FCD03B40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i wasn't going 2 originally = share this,=20 because i didn't think many people would care... but then ppl started = talkin'=20 about water.
SO--
at 1st Light ( i had a GREAT = time btw ),=20 me an' mah friend were sharing water for the first few hours and then i = bought a=20 bunch of water and we shared off that... but we both bought our water = originally=20 from the Water table or whatever,  but like him and i ONLY = shared... and=20 about 2 hours into the party, we BOTH started rollin.  we brought = it up to=20 eachother at the SAME exact time...  i started feeling tingly, and = RIGHT=20 when i thought that, he turns to me and sez he helluv felt like he was = on=20 E.  it was SOOOOOO crazy... whatever it was, it was really = mild... =20 and it was a nice little roll & best of all... we didn't have to=20 PAY!    but did this happen 2 anyone else at 1st Light by = any=20 chance?  i mean i'm SURE the water wasn't contaminated BEHIND the = counter,=20 but still... just curious.  =3D)
 
Much Lub,
Anton   ( nEmo = )
Panduh
------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BEA09C.FCD03B40-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 02:52:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28365 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 02:52:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 28351 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 02:52:13 -0000 Received: from dot.crosswinds.net (204.50.152.131) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 02:52:13 -0000 Received: from panduhboi (ip41.san-francisco31.ca.pub-ip.psi.net [38.28.81.41]) by dot.crosswinds.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA13623 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 22:59:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from nemo@crosswinds.net) Message-ID: <002c01bea0d8$6795c040$29511c26@panduhboi> From: "Anton" To: "sfraves" Subject: Lost... Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 19:44:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0029_01BEA09D.B9F05E80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01BEA09D.B9F05E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OMG, i totally forgot, but if ANYONE at first light found a green turtle = glove, it would be GREATLY (more than that even) appreciated if it could = be returned... [ *sniffs* i almost cried, amber ] it's green and has all these stones stuck to tha bottom and it's name is = "HOW~E"... (it's written on the bottom) he's VERRRRRY missed, i can = assure you... Luv an Lite, Anton ( nEmo ) ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01BEA09D.B9F05E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OMG, i totally forgot, but if = ANYONE at=20 first light found a green turtle glove, it would be GREATLY (more than = that=20 even) appreciated if it could be returned...   [  = *sniffs* =20 i almost cried, amber ]
it's green and has all these = stones stuck=20 to tha bottom and it's name is "HOW~E"... (it's written on the=20 bottom)  he's VERRRRRY missed, i can assure you...
 
Luv an Lite,
Anton    ( = nEmo=20 )
------=_NextPart_000_0029_01BEA09D.B9F05E80-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 05:05:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8019 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 05:05:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 8000 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 05:04:59 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 05:04:59 -0000 Received: from Abbo1234@aol.com (8020) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vOTBa19519 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 01:04:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Abbo1234@aol.com Message-ID: <38dd44a0.24724ec0@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 01:04:00 EDT Subject: Re: BSP:Static*Cling*Presents*FaZe*May21st.* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I wish I could go to this!!!! It sounds so great!! Parents suck, they originally said I could go and then they changed their mind. :-( Everybody has to go and tell me how it is. Of course, I already know its going to be great because Sean is throwing it, but I want details. Have fun everybody! PLUR Abby From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 05:16:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13622 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 05:16:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 13613 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 05:16:52 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 05:16:52 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (14391) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPWDa03058 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 01:15:56 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 01:15:56 EDT Subject: Big M's Review of Ethereal and thank you! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello Everyone: Mmmmm, where should I start?! Trying to get a party together and promoted properly in two weeks is very difficult. However we had a lot of great people working with us and helping out. The turn out was less than hoped for, but nonetheless the vibe the people brought with them more than made up for it. For all those who didn't make it out to Ethereal, IM sure you can tell by all the wonderful reviews you missed out on an incredible night. The DJ's line up was unreal. I cant imagine a phater line up. Every DJ that spun that night spun with a huge amount of heart and soul. And as I made my rounds through each of the rooms I looked over the crowd to see how they were responding. It was something that you cant describe, you can only feel. I didn't have time to enjoy it all myself. So I couldn't help living vicariously through everyone there that night. And for Andy W, Dude, next time the beer is on me! I was fortunate and blessed to have met so many wonderful people that night too. A lot of friends from SFR where there. Many who said hello. Many who I talk to through email all the time. And many who IM sure will be my friends for along time. Unfortunately there were also many who have emailed me with regrets of not being able to make it. And IM sorry to. It would have been great to have partied with more of you. I want to thank everyone who helped and participated in Ethereal. Stephen (DJ SNRGY), Diana, all the DJ's, Micron, Dyloot, Science, Megatron, Prophet, Triad, Thorfio, Dysfnshnl, Deepfog, Andy W,Li, Mc Duh (you rock dude), Mc Angel (thanks sweetie, your wonderful), a great mad props and thank you to Stefan G for the wonderful mind blowing visuals which many told me fried their minds, support from johnr and jonas (gracias por todo ), from all my friends and family, all the wonderful party people who vibed the night away with us, and thank you to DJ Soul Kid and David Hopper from the Groove On Productions Family. I wish I had more energy to post a better review, but unfortunately I had a long emotional weekend. So I apologize to everyone. But dont despair, Groove On Productions has only just begun. Stay tuned for more vibey events geared to rock your world. Much peace and happiness. M Groove On?! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 05:24:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16893 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 05:24:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 16885 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 05:24:10 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 05:24:10 -0000 Received: from Taiida@aol.com (8018) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vWTMa13996 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 01:22:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Taiida@aol.com Message-ID: <7a6b98c2.24725317@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 01:22:31 EDT Subject: KRR: Over-Protective Parents & Raves To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/17/99 10:05:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Abbo1234@aol.com writes: Parents suck, they originally said I could go and then they changed their mind. :-( I know some parents can be so over-protective and everything, but that's just that they love their kids and don't want anything to happen to them. My parents aren't that overprotective of me and my sister. But they have has hooked by a leash. Me, living at home has to carry a cell phone and a pager and still let them know what my school schedule is, where and when I'm going out and when I'm coming home. My sister, who lives at Davis for school and is 2 years younger, is on a leash also with her cell phone and home # and has to tell my parent's everything that's going on (which she does) . My parent's know that we both go to parties and stuff. Oh my god!!! A couple of months ago, When I was partying like every weekend, my parents started getting all hella protective and wanted to give me a 2:00 am curfew. I told them that they told me as long as I told them ahead of time when and where I was going and if I got the next day off work that they said it would be ok, but all of a sudden they turned on me. About a day before the party, my dad pages me and leaves a voice mail to call him, so I called him back and he said I could go all night. I was like all happy and everything. So, now I don't party as much and my parent's don't worry as much either. I guess what I'm trying to say is that be honest with your parents and let them know about more of what you do, so they can learn to trust and respect you more. Just have talks with your parents once in a while. It helps, trust me! Love ya'll, hugznstuff **muuuuahhhhh** Tami :-) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 05:33:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20650 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 05:33:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 20637 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 05:33:37 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 05:33:37 -0000 Received: from Speedex33@aol.com (580) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vOADa02610; Tue, 18 May 1999 01:32:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Speedex33@aol.com Message-ID: <636c6ab5.24725575@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 01:32:37 EDT Subject: Re: KRR: Over-Protective Parents & Raves To: Taiida@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I guess i said the right words when i told my parents about raves. First i told my mom and i told her how much fun i had at my first one and then told her what they were. I even told her about the ecstasy, and she didn't even trip. Both my parents know about raves now, my aunt, uncle and even my grandmother! You have no clue how funny it was to have my grandmother ask me "So are you going to any raves this weekend?":) I've showed my parents the pictures that i took at raves (except for a couple that had to be taken out;), and my dad even took me "rave shopping" a couple times. I guess it all just depends on how you tell your parents. My parents are pretty laid back, and i just kept emphasizing on how much fun i had. And i especially made it clear at how nice most people are at raves and how it's never a problem getting a ride home if you get stuck there or even needing a ride. Of course i dont tell them all the stuff that goes on, but there's some stuff that's just best if they not know, ya know? Scott From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 05:45:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25220 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 05:45:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 25212 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 05:45:20 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 05:45:20 -0000 Received: from Abbo1234@aol.com (8020) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vMLCa26069; Tue, 18 May 1999 01:44:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Abbo1234@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 01:44:32 EDT Subject: Re: KRR: Over-Protective Parents & Raves To: Speedex33@aol.com, Taiida@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk My parents know that I rave but they say that I have to be home by one o'clock!! That means that I have to leave at about 12:30 depending on where it is, I can't go to any outside of the Sacramento area, and I spend a lot of money on very little. I have tried to convince them that I am mature enough to stay out until 2 or 3 but they won't budge on it even though I have proven that I am trustworthy (as far as they know) and won't break my curfew. Because of this I am forced to lie if I want to stay all night. I have even asked my parents to come to a rave with me so that they can see what it is like and that it is not a dangerous place to be but they say that they don't care to ever go to one, even though they know it would mean a lot to me. I love my parents very much but I wish that they would make an effort to be more understanding of the culture that I love. PLUR Abby From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 05:47:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26659 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 05:47:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 26651 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 05:47:39 -0000 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (140.142.33.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 05:47:39 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id WAA24683 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 22:47:38 -0700 Message-ID: <020801bea0f1$fdbc6f60$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: Subject: Re: KRR: Over-Protective Parents & Raves Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:48:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Reminds me of why I like living 100 miles away from home... ******------>****** A good friend of mine has a "Raver Mom". No, she doesn't go to the actual dances, but she makes these COOL accessories, supports my friends candy addiction by buying her really cool (cool for candy i guess) beads, and hooks up the fat pants. For our road trips to parties far off, she makes muffins, and pepperoni rolls (which only exist in West Virginia, where they are from, little bread things with pepperoni in the middle), and we use her car. On Saturday, my friend and another friend of ours wore their freshly made matching bags, out of fuzzy pink fabric with little animals on it. Cute. For candy stuff... :) Anything you see, she whip up a pattern and make it out of any fabric! What is better than your own specialized clothes, made by someone you love? (I know if I was really cheeeezy I'd stick something about PLUR in there...) Peeeeeeeeace, Alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- She wants a good life, No man to cause her pain and strife. -=- Cocoa Tea -----Original Message----- From: Speedex33@aol.com To: Taiida@aol.com ; sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Monday, May 17, 1999 10:33 PM Subject: Re: KRR: Over-Protective Parents & Raves >I guess i said the right words when i told my parents about raves. First i >told my mom and i told her how much fun i had at my first one and then told >her what they were. I even told her about the ecstasy, and she didn't even >trip. Both my parents know about raves now, my aunt, uncle and even my >grandmother! You have no clue how funny it was to have my grandmother ask me >"So are you going to any raves this weekend?":) I've showed my parents the >pictures that i took at raves (except for a couple that had to be taken >out;), and my dad even took me "rave shopping" a couple times. > I guess it all just depends on how you tell your parents. My parents are >pretty laid back, and i just kept emphasizing on how much fun i had. And i >especially made it clear at how nice most people are at raves and how it's >never a problem getting a ride home if you get stuck there or even needing a >ride. Of course i dont tell them all the stuff that goes on, but there's >some stuff that's just best if they not know, ya know? > >Scott From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 06:04:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5866 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 06:04:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 5855 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 06:04:05 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 06:04:05 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (14391) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vKBa013994 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 02:02:50 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <4b0ca986.24725c89@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 02:02:49 EDT Subject: Fwd: Big ThanX ... Give & you shall receive To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_4b0ca986.24725c89_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_4b0ca986.24725c89_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stefan, I hope you dont mind me sharing this with everyone. Your words just touched me so much. Thanks again for everything. Peace, M Groove On --part1_4b0ca986.24725c89_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-yg02.mx.aol.com (rly-yg02.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.2]) by air-yg03.mail.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Sat, 15 May 1999 18:04:21 2000 Received: from web306.yahoomail.com (web306.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.188]) by rly-yg02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with SMTP id SAA10322 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 18:04:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990515220703.24919.rocketmail@web306.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.12.7] by web306.yahoomail.com; Sat, 15 May 1999 15:07:03 PDT Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 15:07:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Gosiewski Subject: Re: Big ThanX ... Give & you shall receive To: BigM009@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks again for a fun night... It was wonderful to see everyone involved giving more than was expected of them to create an event that was very special ... I know this applies to you & Steven etc more than anyone ... The rewards may not have been as immediate as I am sure you would have liked but you laid the foundation for something very worthwhile ... Everyone who I have heard from had a blast (Except those that thought it was going off tonight[Sat]or didn't get the usual Friday listings) and that is what counts ... Everyone said that they would make a point to drag their friends to any of your parties in future ... All the people I met for the first time were a real delight ... Personally, I wish I had the power of time travel so I could go back a couple of times and dance all night, hang out in the side rooms & do visuals! Your efforts with ETHEREAL have made a very positive contribution to the scene that I am certain will be rewarded in the long run, Good things will come to you, Mad Props, Stefan Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com --part1_4b0ca986.24725c89_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 06:47:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22744 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 06:47:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 22736 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 06:47:32 -0000 Received: from law-f187.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.250) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 06:47:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 640 invoked by uid 0); 18 May 1999 06:47:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990518064705.639.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.111.212.9 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 17 May 1999 23:47:05 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.111.212.9] From: "Synth Kid" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: KRR: Over-Protective Parents & Raves Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 06:47:05 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, not all of us are lucky enough to have understanding parents. My situation might have been okay, had my cousin not pointed out I listened to a lot of "rave music" and then "informed" them about her experience at a rave where all her dorm-mates did these terrible drugs. By the end of her conversation with them about raves, my parents asked me if i knew anyone who went to raves (like people who go to them are inherently evil or something. it was quite strange). - Charles P.S. Sorry to all the people in #sfraves i've whined to about not being able to party. > Parents suck, they originally said I could go and then they changed >their >mind. :-( > [snip] >Love ya'll, hugznstuff **muuuuahhhhh** > Tami :-) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 07:03:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28696 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 07:03:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 28686 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 07:03:15 -0000 Received: from sparky.inasec.ca (@207.176.144.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 07:03:15 -0000 Received: from a3a46569 (dnai-216-15-121-108.dialup.dnai.com [216.15.121.108]) by sparky.inasec.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id DAA20470 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 03:03:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by a3a46569 with Microsoft Mail id <01BEA0C4.264394F0@a3a46569>; Tue, 18 May 1999 00:19:52 -0700 Message-ID: <01BEA0C4.264394F0@a3a46569> From: Martin Soukup To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Subject: RE: KRR: Over-Protective Parents & Raves Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 00:19:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Reminds me why I like living 5900 miles from home 8op Not to say I don't love my parents 8o) Reminds me of why I like living 100 miles away from home... ******------>****** A good friend of mine has a "Raver Mom". No, she doesn't go to the actual dances, but she makes these COOL accessories, supports my friends candy addiction by buying her really cool (cool for candy i guess) beads, and hooks up the fat pants. For our road trips to parties far off, she makes muffins, and pepperoni rolls (which only exist in West Virginia, where they are from, little bread things with pepperoni in the middle), and we use her car. On Saturday, my friend and another friend of ours wore their freshly made matching bags, out of fuzzy pink fabric with little animals on it. Cute. For candy stuff... :) Anything you see, she whip up a pattern and make it out of any fabric! What is better than your own specialized clothes, made by someone you love? (I know if I was really cheeeezy I'd stick something about PLUR in there...) Peeeeeeeeace, Alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- She wants a good life, No man to cause her pain and strife. -=- Cocoa Tea -----Original Message----- From: Speedex33@aol.com To: Taiida@aol.com ; sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Monday, May 17, 1999 10:33 PM Subject: Re: KRR: Over-Protective Parents & Raves >I guess i said the right words when i told my parents about raves. First i >told my mom and i told her how much fun i had at my first one and then told >her what they were. I even told her about the ecstasy, and she didn't even >trip. Both my parents know about raves now, my aunt, uncle and even my >grandmother! You have no clue how funny it was to have my grandmother ask me >"So are you going to any raves this weekend?":) I've showed my parents the >pictures that i took at raves (except for a couple that had to be taken >out;), and my dad even took me "rave shopping" a couple times. > I guess it all just depends on how you tell your parents. My parents are >pretty laid back, and i just kept emphasizing on how much fun i had. And i >especially made it clear at how nice most people are at raves and how it's >never a problem getting a ride home if you get stuck there or even needing a >ride. Of course i dont tell them all the stuff that goes on, but there's >some stuff that's just best if they not know, ya know? > >Scott From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 07:06:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 294 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 07:06:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 286 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 07:06:01 -0000 Received: from c004-h003.c004.sfo.cp.net (HELO c004.sfo.cp.net) (209.228.14.55) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 07:06:01 -0000 Received: (cpmta 22550 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 00:05:59 -0700 Date: 18 May 1999 00:05:59 -0700 Message-ID: <19990518070559.22549.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> X-Sent: 18 May 1999 07:05:59 GMT Received: from [216.101.167.238] by mail.marijuana.com with HTTP; 18 May 1999 00:05:59 PDT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Taylor X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.0 Subject: [NRR] some questions for the wise Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey people, I'm looking for advise on a few things and thought maybe some of the older/wiser ravers on this list can help me out. I'm trying to get a decent paying computer related job so I can put my self through school. (Or at least enough school so I can get certified in a few fields) I'm looking for a job in SF or somewhere in the silicon valley.. Any Ideas? (I'm very well qualified for a job doing multimedia layout/graphics interface design type work - I have an extensive portfolio, etc.) ALSO, I'm looking for some sort of low cost housing, be it renting a room, or a fairly cheap apartment some where. (cheap apartments in the bay area? yeah, i know) suggestions? Any ways, I just thought a few of your might have been through this before and could give me a little guidance. Sorry to bore the list with my problems. mucho thanks, -omen --------------------------------------------------------------------- Get your own @Marijuana.Com eMail address -> http://www.Marijuana.Com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 07:08:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1989 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 07:08:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 1977 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 07:08:16 -0000 Received: from sparky.inasec.ca (@207.176.144.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 07:08:16 -0000 Received: from a3a46569 (dnai-216-15-121-108.dialup.dnai.com [216.15.121.108]) by sparky.inasec.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id DAA20515 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 03:08:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by a3a46569 with Microsoft Mail id <01BEA0C4.DA42AEF0@a3a46569>; Tue, 18 May 1999 00:24:54 -0700 Message-ID: <01BEA0C4.DA42AEF0@a3a46569> From: Martin Soukup To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Subject: RE: KRR: Over-Protective Parents & Raves Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 00:24:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It is truly unlucky to have parents who aren't as open minded as some = people, and who won't listen to *your* take on things. Much empathy = dude. Well, not all of us are lucky enough to have understanding parents. My = situation might have been okay, had my cousin not pointed out I listened = to=20 a lot of "rave music" and then "informed" them about her experience at a = rave where all her dorm-mates did these terrible drugs. By the end of = her=20 conversation with them about raves, my parents asked me if i knew anyone = who=20 went to raves (like people who go to them are inherently evil or = something. =20 it was quite strange). - Charles P.S. Sorry to all the people in #sfraves i've whined to about not being = able=20 to party. > Parents suck, they originally said I could go and then they changed=20 >their >mind. :-( > [snip] >Love ya'll, hugznstuff **muuuuahhhhh** > Tami :-) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 07:58:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21197 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 07:58:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 21188 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 07:58:32 -0000 Received: from web805.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 07:58:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19990518080332.17825.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.188.199.56] by web805.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 18 May 1999 01:03:32 PDT Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 01:03:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Nrr: semesters suck! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I despise the end of semesters, they seem to drag on for sooo long, its like you have been in this class all freakin semester, and it continues on from week to week, same old stuff just tryin to make the time pass, and then finals come and you are just supposed to cram like never before, its just very irritating. Love, Jessica Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 08:26:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27353 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 08:26:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 27339 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 08:26:43 -0000 Received: from mail2.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 08:26:43 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (98A9F7A0.ipt.aol.com [152.169.247.160]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA10933; Tue, 18 May 1999 01:24:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37412494.50259199@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 01:28:04 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rafie CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Review of my finding in RENO References: <199905180143.SAA08149@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am damn fucking proud of my turret's... it took me a long time to get that. And yes you are the one that can't eat the chicken sandwich without the chicken falling all over the place. Pig! =Paul*E*Wog P.S. It's "Tamare, baka!" not "yamer something" Rafie wrote: > > Well, at least I don't have Turrett's. > And I don't shop at Hot Topic. > > And when I eat food I don't make a mess and smear it all over my face and > use up all the napkins > > Rafie > PS Yamero, baka! > > On Mon, 17 May 1999 17:39:59 -0700, > goodvibe@geocities.com wrote... > >You were worse than me you bitch! Spitting everywhere! I think there was > >something in all that greek food we had! > > > >=Paul*E*Wog > > > >Rafie wrote: > >> > >> Sounds like someone did too much acid this weekend. > >> > >> Rafie > >> PS Paul*E*Wog has ADD and hyperactivity disorder...it's confirmed > >> > >> On Sun, 16 May 1999 19:10:22 -0700 (PDT), > >> chep_plur@yahoo.com wrote... > >> >Hello Everyone, > >> > > >> >and yes, I am also cracked out this Sunday morning. > >> >It is almost inevitable that we all share this same > >> >experience when journeying to a rave over the weekend. > >> > Rather it be local, another state, or even a distance > >> >galaxy we all end up 99.9 % utitlized. So, now we > >> >must defrag and everyone knows how long > >> >defragmentation takes. But, still there is always > >> >that one lost cluster that bugs you for the week. My > >> >lost cluster is this beautiful person I met over the > >> >weekend. Her name is Samantha. Hella-cool, > >> >hella-tight, hella-dancer and if you are reading this > >> > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 08:45:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2582 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 08:45:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 2573 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 08:45:22 -0000 Received: from mail8.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.42) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 08:45:22 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (98A9F7A0.ipt.aol.com [152.169.247.160]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA23924 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 01:45:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <374128F4.78940728@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 01:46:45 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: Experience... NEXUS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am curious to know about anyone's personal experiences with the "drug" or "entheogen" known as Nexus / 2C-B... Please post as a friend of a friend... =Paul*E*Wog From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 11:20:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1603 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 11:20:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 1594 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 11:20:15 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 11:20:15 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.228] (libya-228.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.228]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA24526; Tue, 18 May 1999 04:19:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 04:41:46 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Tue) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello...today's quote is... The supreme happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved. ---Victor Hugo ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 12:56:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6913 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 12:56:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 6905 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 12:56:12 -0000 Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.49) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 12:56:12 -0000 Received: from totoro1.earthlink.net (pool157-cvx.ds63-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.198.157]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA22934 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 05:56:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990518055637.0079f9d0@earthlink.net> X-Sender: totoro1@earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 05:56:37 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: totoro1@earthlink.net Subject: Still Trading, need more! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Greetings all, sorry for this spam, but would anyone like to trade mixtapes? I would really like a hook-up to the SF scene's DJ's mixtapes..esp: Tony, Spun, Moon-pup, Carlos..etc..But send me your list of tapes anyway!!!! Check out my list at my website: http://home.earthlink.net/~totoro1/ Peace- Joh From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 15:27:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11781 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 15:27:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 11748 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 15:26:54 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 15:26:54 -0000 Received: from Taiida@aol.com (8001) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vRNPa05092 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:25:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Taiida@aol.com Message-ID: <15768207.2472e060@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:25:20 EDT Subject: Re: Nrr: semesters suck! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk << I despise the end of semesters, they seem to drag on for sooo long, its like you have been in this class all freakin semester, and it continues on from week to week, same old stuff just tryin to make the time pass, and then finals come and you are just supposed to cram like never before, its just very irritating. >> I totally agree. I just can't wait for it to be 2 weeks from now when my summer vacation starts, so I think I'll be going to Metropolis to party my ass off for the start of summer. I hate it rightnow , I have 1 debate to get ready for for Monday and 1 play (all in sign language) for Monday, so, I guess I'll go do that now, C-ya'll next weekend. Love ya Tami From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 16:15:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21324 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 16:15:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 21000 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 16:14:58 -0000 Received: from fes-qout.whowhere.com (HELO mailcity.com) (209.1.236.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 16:14:58 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Tue May 18 09:14:05 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:14:05 -0700 From: "Jimmy Bob Jones" <2dope@mailcity.com> Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Expiredinmiddle: true X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: PLUR X-Sender-Ip: 206.79.217.110 Organization: MailCity (http://www.mailcity.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What up ? I'm new to the list , the scene , the coast. My girl has been raving for a couple years , I like the music but I've only been to a couple parties. Chill , I don't mind good music and friendly people , but I had to get my Baby to stop taking drugs. One day my girl came home from a party with her friend. SHe came right to my work and was tweaking , like loosin her shit. Not because she was on any drugs , because her friend was droppin blood clots the size of a hamburger out her nose. Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://my.lycos.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 16:15:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21343 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 16:15:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 21001 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 16:14:58 -0000 Received: from fes-qout.whowhere.com (HELO mailcity.com) (209.1.236.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 16:14:58 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Tue May 18 09:14:04 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:14:04 -0700 From: "Jimmy Bob Jones" <2dope@mailcity.com> Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: PLUR X-Sender-Ip: 206.79.217.110 Organization: MailCity (http://www.mailcity.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What up ? I'm new to the list , the scene , the coast. My girl has been raving for a couple years , I like the music but I've only been to a couple parties. Chill , I don't mind good music and friendly people , but I had to get my Baby to stop taking drugs. One day my girl came home from a party with her friend. SHe came right to my work and was tweaking , like loosin her shit. Not because she was on any drugs , because her friend was droppin blood clots the size of a hamburger out her nose. Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://my.lycos.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 16:23:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1413 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 16:23:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 1139 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 16:23:22 -0000 Received: from fes-qout.whowhere.com (HELO mailcity.com) (209.1.236.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 16:23:22 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Tue May 18 09:22:46 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:22:46 -0700 From: "Jimmy Bob Jones" <2dope@mailcity.com> Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Expiredinmiddle: true X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: PLUR X-Sender-Ip: 206.79.217.110 Organization: MailCity (http://www.mailcity.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What up ? I'm new to the list , the scene , the coast. My girl has been raving for a couple years , I like the music but I've only been to a couple parties. Chill , I don't mind good music and friendly people , but I had to get my Baby to stop taking drugs. One day my girl came home from a party with her friend. SHe came right to my work and was tweaking , like loosin her shit. Not because she was on any drugs , because her friend was droppin blood clots the size of a hamburger out her nose. Here's my question : i see PLUR wotkin in your community , at a party there's mad love ( for the music , the people) , there's peace( everyone is friendly ) , and there's unity ( all yall get together for a few hours and become a giant family ) but , where's the respect?? For example , half the music these guys spin is all about booty!! Where's the respect for women in treating them like pieces of meat , like possesions?? And , the drugs. How can someone who fills themself with a substance so impure and foreign say that they respect themselves?? Don't you care about yourselves?? Aren't you happy with who you are , and how you feel with out a substance to create a false happiness?? PLEASE , don't get upset with me for speaking my mind!! I once did alot of drugs , but I'm clean now , and I see reality!! Why would anyone want to harm themselves when they can have just as much fun , in a pure way?? Think about it yo , it's your life , your world , your mind , and it's far too precious to waste a moment in a haze of lies!! Thanx for listening and opening yourselves to me and my opinion , I want to make friends here not enemies , and friends can learn from one another!! Peace & respect , slice aka 2dope Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://my.lycos.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 16:46:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29449 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 16:46:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 29290 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 16:45:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 16:45:49 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 50 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 09:43:01 -0700 Message-ID: <37419951.7C97E2FE@hrg.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:46:09 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFraves peeps Subject: Sad Sad News - callies gone References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am very very very sorry to say, that we have lost one of the brightest stars among us. Callie Littlefield passed away yesterday. For those of you that dont know her, callie was a wonderfull wonderfull woman. she taught yoga at the soma yoga studio, was a fixture in the scene, and put together many beautiful parties there. More than that, she was a friend. over the short time that I have known callie, she has shown herself to be one of the most caring and inspiring people I have ever come across. talking to her you just realized that you were talking to someone that was very special, that seemed to shine above all the rest. she seemed to have a passion for life that is very uncommon in this world, and a want to share her joy with others. she was an awesome friend, always willing to help out with anything, offering anything she had, always smiling. she will be very dearly missed, by me, and Im sure by everyone else who ever came into contact with her. she was that extraordinary... john rodriguez From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 16:50:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4668 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 16:50:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 4375 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 16:50:29 -0000 Received: from web803.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.63) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 16:50:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990518165619.14292.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.99] by web803.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 18 May 1999 09:56:19 PDT Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:56:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: Nrr: semesters suck! To: Taiida@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have two two hour field trips to get through, a presentation, and an essay from hell. Im so glad I have all of you guys, and all my friends in general to keep me smilin, i cant wait for summer!!!!! Hang in there, it will be here soon! Jess --- Taiida@aol.com wrote: > > << I despise the end of semesters, they seem to drag > on for sooo long, its > like you have been in this class all freakin > semester, and it continues > on from week to week, same old stuff just tryin to > make the time pass, > and then finals come and you are just supposed to > cram like never > before, its just very irritating. > >> > > I totally agree. I just can't wait for it to be 2 > weeks from now when my > summer vacation starts, so I think I'll be going to > Metropolis to party my > ass off for the start of summer. I hate it > rightnow , I have 1 debate to > get ready for for Monday and 1 play (all in sign > language) for Monday, so, I > guess I'll go do that now, C-ya'll next weekend. > > Love ya > > Tami > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 17:02:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15858 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 17:02:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 15826 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 17:02:08 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 17:02:08 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-153.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.153]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA00806 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 10:02:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990518153700.006b0b60@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:37:00 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: Re: PLUR Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What in gay hell? At 09:14 AM 5/18/99 -0700, you wrote: > What up ? I'm new to the list , the scene , the coast. My girl has been raving for a couple years , I like the music but I've only been to a couple parties. Chill , I don't mind good music and friendly people , but I had to get my Baby to stop taking drugs. One day my girl came home from a party with her friend. SHe came right to my work and was tweaking , like loosin her shit. Not because she was on any drugs , because her friend was droppin blood clots the size of a hamburger out her nose. > > > >Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com >Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://my.lycos.com > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 17:10:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25786 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 17:10:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 25754 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 17:10:28 -0000 Received: from loviatar.webcom.com (209.1.28.41) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 17:10:28 -0000 Received: from eresh.webcom.com (eresh.webcom.com [209.1.28.49]) by loviatar.webcom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA32154; Tue, 18 May 1999 10:10:22 -0700 Received: from [209.245.129.40] by inanna.webcom.com (WebCom SMTP 1.2.1) with SMTP id 34171987; Tue May 18 10:06 PDT 1999 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: soundz@pop.silverpearl.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:11:12 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, 2dope@mailcity.com From: Silver Pearl Records Subject: Re: PLUR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Look whomever you might be... Opinions expressed by real people, with real thoughts, about real experiences are always a welcome addition to our little forum. On the other hand, made up opinions, from made up people, with made up e-mail accounts, about made up situations, with ridiculous unfounded attempts at describing our scene are not. What you wrote below has a partial amount of truth...but your negative opinions should be held for army base night clubs, and have NO basis whatsoever in our community. Try again from another account...as this attempt to stir sh*t up from this account, will hopefully be ignored. Peace, Eric Spire Silver Pearl Records > What up ? I'm new to the list , the scene , the coast. My girl >has been raving for a couple years , I like the music but I've only >been to a couple parties. Chill , I don't mind good music and >friendly people , but I had to get my Baby to stop taking drugs. >One day my girl came home from a party with her friend. SHe came >right to my work and was tweaking , like loosin her shit. Not >because she was on any drugs , because her friend was droppin blood >clots the size of a hamburger out her nose. > Here's my question : >i see PLUR wotkin in your community , at a party there's mad love ( >for the music , the people) , there's peace( everyone is friendly ) >, and there's unity ( all yall get together for a few hours and >become a giant family ) but , where's the respect?? For example , >half the music these guys spin is all about booty!! Where's the >respect for women in treating them like pieces of meat , like >possesions?? And , the drugs. How can someone who fills themself >with a substance so impure and foreign say that they respect >themselves?? Don't you care about yourselves?? Aren't you happy >with who you are , and how you feel with out a substance to create a >false happiness?? > PLEASE , don't get upset with me for speaking my mind!! I once >did alot of drugs , but I'm clean now , and I see reality!! Why >would anyone want to harm themselves when they can have just as much >fun , in a pure way?? > Think about it yo , it's your life , your world , your mind , and >it's far too precious to waste a moment in a haze of lies!! > Thanx for listening and opening yourselves to me and my opinion , >I want to make friends here not enemies , and friends can learn from >one another!! > Peace & respect , > slice aka 2dope > > > >Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com >Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://my.lycos.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 17:17:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6270 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 17:17:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 6214 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 17:17:47 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 17:17:47 -0000 Received: from DNGRBOY9@aol.com (260) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3DZZa27693; Tue, 18 May 1999 13:13:28 -0400 (EDT) From: DNGRBOY9@aol.com Message-ID: <13407061.2472f9bc@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 13:13:32 EDT Subject: Re: PLUR To: silverpearl@silverpearl.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, 2dope@mailcity.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hahahahahah Well I am new too the list too hahahah that guys needs a life does anyone have word on Mitsubishi or Warner bros.? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 17:27:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17650 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 17:26:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 17374 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 17:26:33 -0000 Received: from diana.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.239) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 17:26:33 -0000 Received: from [130.212.201.94] (madmax-55.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.55]) by diana.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA12144 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 10:25:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:27:20 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Michael Standish Subject: re:why I rave Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I rave for the fashions baby. It's all about the clothes. Ravers are the styleest motherfuckers around. GAT, Fresh Jive, Stoopid, Eurofunk ah yeah all my early nineties raver favorites. Gone but not forgotren. Then there was JNCO, moving right along Addidas, Kikwear, Caffiene. And then there's the candy kids with their homemade stuff. Candy kids are the bomb. Music? Well half of it is hella phat, while the other half is wack. Nevertheless I love rave music best. Punk, NewRo, and Industrial just don't move me anymore. Then there's that lovey, huggy, respect stuff. I dunno, all my life, I've kicked it with people like that. It doesn't seem unusual, or special, but it is important. Sir Ulrich Knight of the Turntables From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 17:30:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22963 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 17:30:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 22551 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 17:30:22 -0000 Received: from f85.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.191) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 17:30:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 36222 invoked by uid 0); 18 May 1999 17:29:54 -0000 Message-ID: <19990518172954.36221.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.62.238.15 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 18 May 1999 10:29:54 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.62.238.15] From: "Jason Branch the Scarecrow Pyximhn" To: DNGRBOY9@aol.com, silverpearl@silverpearl.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, 2dope@mailcity.com Subject: PLUR Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:29:54 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk W.Hubap! {shot to the CURB... Toe up an' up!} Tucker out did one every day, and the lot is still immense (a lot). Neat-O name and nice cover... I haven't seen any feds since yesterday though, just kidding. Hope that every time you find yourself smiling, you're triple happy. Jaw P.S. Welcome to S.F. Raves :] Pro Bona Escritoire: From: DNGRBOY9@aol.com To: silverpearl@silverpearl.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, 2dope@mailcity.com Subject: Re: PLUR Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 13:13:32 EDT hahahahahah Well I am new too the list too hahahah that guys needs a life does anyone have word on Mitsubishi or Warner bros.? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 17:34:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27606 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 17:33:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 27325 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 17:33:43 -0000 Received: from law-f201.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.111) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 17:33:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 3238 invoked by uid 0); 18 May 1999 17:33:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19990518173319.3237.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.111.131.80 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 18 May 1999 10:33:19 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.111.131.80] From: "Corey Landon" To: Taiida@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: My First Light; Full of Surprises Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:33:19 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Wow. It sounds like you had quite a weekend! I mean come on, how great it must be to go sober FOR A GUY and not for yourself, and then be so thrilled that he's decided to jump down into the same spiralling pool of issues and e-tards that we deal with every Saturday night. And ya know, I'm sure that everyone here just loves to hear about how many hits of E you bought, and your drug induced floor dwelling just ENTHRALLED all of us out here in Raverland. I'm not criticizing you for your choice to do drugs. What's very sad is the fact that you went sober just to impress some guy. And the second it was cool with him, you found the closest dealer. If you're going to roll the night away, that FINE... it's your choice. But don't hide behind a facade of false "sobriety" because it will impress someone else. I foresee many issues for you in the future... =-( CL >From: Taiida@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: My First Light; Full of Surprises >Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 21:07:17 EDT > >Ok...Well...It's Monday and I'm finally posting my lil long review. I >didn't >get to do this yesterday, cause after getting home yesterday morning, I had >to work at 7:00 am and worked til 4:00 p.m.(9 hrs straight, no break) Went >home and straight to bed at 4:30 p.m. and woke up at 8:00 a.m. this morning >(16 hrs sleep total all the way through). I have so much to say about this >kick ass party. so I just have to do this now. > >First of all, Everything about that party was soooo awesome (Lighting, >sound, >Vibes, EVERYTHING!!), My compliments to the whole First Light Crew. Not to >mention the all the vibes. It was crowded and all but everybody all had >good >vibes. I saw no one pulling any attitudes with anyone, pushing and >shoving, >or anything like that. It was great. > >I was soooo glad I had an extra ticket so that I could bring my japanese >cowboy crush, Matt, who I like very, very much, to his first rave. He >loved >this party so much that he even said that he would love to go to another >party. I thought I wouldn't ever do E again because I thought he didn't >like >drugs at all, but after wandering around and dancing our asses off for the >first part of the nite, he asked me about trying E for the first time. >Man! >Was I surprised he asked that. He asked me if I was going to do it, and I >told him I didn't want to, but then I asked him if he wanted me to. And he >said yeah, ok. I was so happy!!!! So I found this girl who another friend >introduced me to that was selling some really good E and I bought 2 E. > >I didn't think it would hit me so hard and I wanted to take care of Matt >and >all, but it did just the opposite. I danced and danced and when all of a >sudden I felt it hard and was floored and then Matt started taking care of >me. It just made Matt keep right on dancing. > >At this party I ran into 2 old friends that I hadn't seen in such a long >time. > >One was While I was floored, however, I totally found someone that I met on >New Year's at Origin. I totally didn't know if I would see him again, but >when his cousin told me that he remembered me and asked if I remembered him >and his cousin, I was like, all, happy and surprised. I mean, how can I >forget my first guy I ever E-tripped with. I still had one of his fuzzy >necklaces that when I saw him I told him that and he told me it was mine. >I >didn't mean to keep it, but I totally lost him at the Origin and never saw >him til saturday nite. Another friend I ran into was someone from one of my >old jobs. I was totally amazed that he had become a raver. I didn't know >that was him til he took off his gas mask. > >This party was so full of surprises. Hope to see all you soon! Maybe at >Metropolis! > >I LOVE U GUYS!!!!!!! especially Matt. =) > >Luv n Hugz n Stuff, *muuahhh!! > Tami =) > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 17:35:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29430 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 17:35:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 29121 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 17:35:08 -0000 Received: from web106.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 17:35:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990518173555.23880.rocketmail@web106.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web106.yahoomail.com; Tue, 18 May 1999 10:35:55 PDT Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:35:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: NRR: Chain Letter Humor To: SF Ravers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk READ THIS!!!!!!!! MEMORIZE IT!!!!!!!!! LIVE BY IT!!!!!!!!! Hello, my name is Alfonso Merkin. I am suffering from rare and deadly diseases, poor scores on final exams, lack of sexual activity, fear of being kidnapped and executed by anal electrocution, and guilt for not sending out 50 billion fucking forwards sent to me by people who actually believe that if you send them, that poor 6 year old girl in Arkansas with lung cancer caused by second-hand smoke from the cigarettes smoked by the big, bad men who kidnapped her and took pornographic pictures of her for use on their child pornography web site, which will get 6 cents every time you send me the letter. Do you honestly believe that Bill Gates is going to give you and everyone you send "his" email to $1000? How fucking stupid are you? Ooooh, looky here! If I scroll down this page and make a wish, I'll get laid by every Victoria's Secret model in the catalog! What a bunch of bullshit. So basically, this message is a big FUCK YOU to all the people out there who have nothing better to do than to send me stupid chain mail forwards. Maybe the evil chain letter leprechauns will come into my apartment and sodomize me in my sleep for not continuing the chain which was started by Jesus in 5 A.D. and was brought to this country by midget pilgrims on the Mayflower and if it makes it to the year 2000, it'll be in the Guinness Book of World Records for the longest continuous streak of blatant stupidity. Fuck them. If you're going to forward something, at least send something mildly amusing. I've seen all the "send this to 50 of your closest friends, and this poor, wretched excuse for a human being will somehow receive a nickel from some omniscient being" if it is forwarded about 90 times. I don't fucking care. Show a little intelligence and think about what you're actually contributing to by sending out forwards. Chances are it's your own unpopularity. P.S. Please forward this to at least 50 of your best friends. THE FOUR BASIC TYPES OF CHAIN LETTERS: Chain Letter Type 1: (scroll down) Make a wish!!! Really, go on and make one!!! Oh, please, they'll never go out with you. Wish something else!!! Not that, you pervert!! Is your finger getting tired yet? STOP!!!! Wasn't that fun? Hope you made a great wish. Now, to make you feel guilty, here's what I'll do. First of all, if you don't send this to 5,096 people in the next 5 seconds, you will be raped by a mad goat and then thrown off a tall building into a pile of manure. It's true! Because, THIS letter isn't like all of those fake ones, THIS one is TRUE!! Really!!! 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Send this to 5 people in the next 47 seconds. Oh, and a reminder - if you accidentally send this to 4 or 6 people, you will die instantly. Thanks again!! ------------------------------------------------------- Chain Letter Type 3 Hi there!! This chain letter has been in existence since 1897. This is absolutely incredible because there was no email then and probably not as many little 8 year olds writing chain letters. So this is how it works. Pass this on to 15,067 people in the next 7 minutes or something horrible will happen to you like: Queer Horror Story #1: Miranda Pinsley was walking home from school on Saturday. She had recently received this letter and ignored it. She then tripped in a crack in the sidewalk, fell into the sewer, was gushed down a drainpipe in a flood of poop, and went flying out over a waterfall. Not only did she smell nasty, she died. This Could Happen To You!!! 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Friends * A friend is someone who is always at your side, * A friend is someone who likes you even though you smell like poop, * A friend is someone who likes you even though you're wretchedly ugly, * A friend is someone who cleans up for you after you've soiled yourself, * A friend is someone who stays with you all night while you cry about your loser life, * A friend is someone who pretends they like you when they really think you should be raped by a mad goat and then thrown to vicious dogs, *A friend is someone who scrubs your toilet and vacuums and then gets the check and leaves and doesn't speak much English, no, sorry, that's the cleaning lady, * A friend is not someone who sends you chain letters because he wants his wish of being rich to come true. Now pass this on! If you don't, you'll be eaten by wild mutts! ----------------------------------------------------------- There. Now that we've covered and dumped on the four main types of chain letters, onto the ironic part. In order for this to gain any popularity, send it on!!! If you don't think it was funny at all, don't bother, but otherwise forward this sucker to everyone you know!! If you don't, I don't care, but why not show this around? Take two minutes and forward it. Thanks! Remember, the moral of the story is, if you get a chain letter, ignore it. If it's a joke or something, send it, sure, but if it's gonna make people feel guilty (i.e., the willieless boy from Baklaliviatatlaglooshen) or nervous (i.e., Miranda Pinsley who ended up in a waterfall of turds) just delete it. Do yourself a favor, and everyone else in the world, and say, "#$@%CHAIN LETTERS! Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 17:53:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15034 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 17:53:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 14825 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 17:53:34 -0000 Received: from f194.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.83) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 17:53:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 8839 invoked by uid 0); 18 May 1999 17:50:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19990518175004.8838.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.62.238.15 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 18 May 1999 10:50:04 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.62.238.15] From: "Jason Branch the Scarecrow Pyximhn" To: BodhiInSF@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Why Are You A Raver? Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:50:04 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Pro Bona Escritoire: Why are you a raver? Rave On! Well, I left home upon becoming an adult, and flew about from party to party soul searching and looking for the champion sound. Along the way I met the most incredible presences (if I ever met you IRL I will have many stories to share). Having some of the party experience from my sonic youth tucked firmly in my belt, I had the extreme fortune of meeting Isaac of ETI (back in the day... when FoDo was Two-Scoops and Buna still played gigs with Noah) He said, "You've got to come to one of these parties." "You would [get what's really going on] like... them." He had just finished telling me a story this party called Toon-Town, wherein those in attendance had been bussed, via charter to Los Angeles to get down. This conversation took place at the Bistro, "Where friends meet.", an underground (literally) coffee bistro in Burlingame. Shortly after discussing the vibe and eclectic hodge-podge of folks that gathered, I was escorted to a full moon in the Santa Cruz Mountains. I tell you what, I had to go almost every day after that. Do you know what I mean? I have so much more to say on the subject. I think it would suit me fine to stop typing my life story chronologicaly ('tis not quite my style, eh?) going... going... I'm gone Jaw - Ta from Pyximhn Pro Bona Escritoire: From: BodhiInSF@aol.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Why Are You A Raver? Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 06:28:08 EDT Some are ravers for the drugs. Some to pick up on girls/boys. Some because of the music, some for the freedom and the forum of self expression raves and being a raver usually provides. Some for the spiritual dimension and expirences they may have at raves. Some because raves are a great place to find and meet friends. Some because raves are a safe place for them to be, a place to go rather than hanging on the streets. Some because they seek to learn and practice PLUR. For what ever reason you are a raver, I'd love to hear your reason why. Peace, love and hugzzz to all! ---Bodhi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 17:54:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15678 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 17:54:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 15489 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 17:54:11 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 17:54:11 -0000 Received: from DNGRBOY9@aol.com (260) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id oHQJa03428; Tue, 18 May 1999 13:43:53 -0400 (EDT) From: DNGRBOY9@aol.com Message-ID: <6fc8ce1e.247300dc@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 13:43:56 EDT Subject: Re: why I rave To: standish@sfsu.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk s: << Then there was JNCO, moving right along Addidas, Kikwear, Caffiene. And then there's the candy kids with their homemade stuff. Candy kids are the bomb. [ YUK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I like to combine styles,,Ya Know!? I buy cool pants then tailor them..sew them in ,,,,,combine popular trends with an industrial cyberpunk feel call it ELEKTROPUNK if you will.. just dont shop and wear off the rack ...contribute to originality,,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!] Music? Well half of it is hella phat, while the other half is wack. Nevertheless I love rave music best. Punk, NewRo, and Industrial just don't move me anymore. [ Happy house, dive house, is wak ...the rest is ground breaking!!!!!!!!!! ENJOY IT NOW!!! or spend the rest of your life wishing you took part of a genre unparalled to that of the sixties hippie movement] Then there's that lovey, huggy, respect stuff. I dunno, all my life, I've kicked it with people like that. It doesn't seem unusual, or special, but it is important. >> [ that is the part I could care less about ,,, respect yes but, enjoy yourself , feel the vibe , hump a speaker!, but, dont hug me !! my girly gives me all that kinda attention ok! ] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 18:06:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28842 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 18:06:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 28498 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 18:05:52 -0000 Received: from law-f219.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.157) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 18:05:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 65540 invoked by uid 0); 18 May 1999 18:05:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19990518180515.65539.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.111.131.80 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:05:14 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.111.131.80] From: "Corey Landon" To: Taiida@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: My First Light; Full of Surprises Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:05:14 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Oops that was suposed to be private. Stupid reply all button. >=[ CL >From: "Corey Landon" >To: Taiida@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: My First Light; Full of Surprises >Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:33:19 PDT > >Wow. It sounds like you had quite a weekend! I mean come on, how great it >must be to go sober FOR A GUY and not for yourself, and then be so thrilled >that he's decided to jump down into the same spiralling pool of issues and >e-tards that we deal with every Saturday night. And ya know, I'm sure that >everyone here just loves to hear about how many hits of E you bought, and >your drug induced floor dwelling just ENTHRALLED all of us out here in >Raverland. > >I'm not criticizing you for your choice to do drugs. What's very sad is >the >fact that you went sober just to impress some guy. And the second it was >cool with him, you found the closest dealer. If you're going to roll the >night away, that FINE... it's your choice. But don't hide behind a facade >of false "sobriety" because it will impress someone else. I foresee many >issues for you in the future... =-( > >CL > > > > >>From: Taiida@aol.com >>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >>Subject: My First Light; Full of Surprises >>Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 21:07:17 EDT >> >>Ok...Well...It's Monday and I'm finally posting my lil long review. I >>didn't >>get to do this yesterday, cause after getting home yesterday morning, I >>had >>to work at 7:00 am and worked til 4:00 p.m.(9 hrs straight, no break) >>Went >>home and straight to bed at 4:30 p.m. and woke up at 8:00 a.m. this >>morning >>(16 hrs sleep total all the way through). I have so much to say about >>this >>kick ass party. so I just have to do this now. >> >>First of all, Everything about that party was soooo awesome (Lighting, >>sound, >>Vibes, EVERYTHING!!), My compliments to the whole First Light Crew. Not >>to >>mention the all the vibes. It was crowded and all but everybody all had >>good >>vibes. I saw no one pulling any attitudes with anyone, pushing and >>shoving, >>or anything like that. It was great. >> >>I was soooo glad I had an extra ticket so that I could bring my japanese >>cowboy crush, Matt, who I like very, very much, to his first rave. He >>loved >>this party so much that he even said that he would love to go to another >>party. I thought I wouldn't ever do E again because I thought he didn't >>like >>drugs at all, but after wandering around and dancing our asses off for >>the >>first part of the nite, he asked me about trying E for the first time. >>Man! >>Was I surprised he asked that. He asked me if I was going to do it, and I >>told him I didn't want to, but then I asked him if he wanted me to. And >>he >>said yeah, ok. I was so happy!!!! So I found this girl who another >>friend >>introduced me to that was selling some really good E and I bought 2 E. >> >>I didn't think it would hit me so hard and I wanted to take care of Matt >>and >>all, but it did just the opposite. I danced and danced and when all of a >>sudden I felt it hard and was floored and then Matt started taking care of >>me. It just made Matt keep right on dancing. >> >>At this party I ran into 2 old friends that I hadn't seen in such a long >>time. >> >>One was While I was floored, however, I totally found someone that I met >>on >>New Year's at Origin. I totally didn't know if I would see him again, but >>when his cousin told me that he remembered me and asked if I remembered >>him >>and his cousin, I was like, all, happy and surprised. I mean, how can I >>forget my first guy I ever E-tripped with. I still had one of his fuzzy >>necklaces that when I saw him I told him that and he told me it was mine. >>I >>didn't mean to keep it, but I totally lost him at the Origin and never saw >>him til saturday nite. Another friend I ran into was someone from one of >>my >>old jobs. I was totally amazed that he had become a raver. I didn't know >>that was him til he took off his gas mask. >> >>This party was so full of surprises. Hope to see all you soon! Maybe at >>Metropolis! >> >>I LOVE U GUYS!!!!!!! especially Matt. =) >> >>Luv n Hugz n Stuff, *muuahhh!! >> Tami =) >> > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 18:09:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 975 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 18:09:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 637 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 18:09:13 -0000 Received: from f180.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 18:09:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 15017 invoked by uid 0); 18 May 1999 18:08:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19990518180846.15016.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.62.238.15 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:08:46 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.62.238.15] From: "Jason Branch the Scarecrow Pyximhn" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Fwd: Re: old skool vs. new skool? Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:08:46 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >From: "Jason Branch the Scarecrow Pyximhn" >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: old skool vs. new skool? >Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 00:00:00 GMT Wow! Be vage and it fits everyplace! >"I'm gon` write some just for that, and just because. Now the sun hits >this hat a little bit longer don` mean that the hat you wear is gon` fade >any less, hear? Ooo, Chile', things a` gon' get easier. Ooo Chile`, well >things w'll be brighter. Y'ina bloatin' with size large Kharmic >investment! Ole School at playin'? All KIND an' ole school? > ~ T'inkin' beneath this hat y'ina mean AOL school? Tryn'a RAVE ON! Wat? >Spun some yarn for the mad syle y'ina havin' edgewise. [I only get to >confuse the scary people.]" >Stay Safe and Keep the Faith ~ >Sky's Blue, an' I'm Smilen - how about Odd's Cool vs. New School?" >going... going... >I'm gone >Jaw >- Ta from Pyximhn > >pro bona escritoire: > >>Subject: Re: old skool vs. new skool? > > >Ya think?> > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 18:18:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5502 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 18:17:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 5049 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 18:16:40 -0000 Received: from mail.netsolutions.se (HELO fileserver.netsolutions.se) (195.100.188.25) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 18:16:40 -0000 Received: by fileserver.netsolutions.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 18 May 1999 20:14:27 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Niklas Alvaeus \(Netsolutions\)" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Coming to SF from Sweden! Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:14:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi everybody! I'm coming to San Fransisco from Stockholm Sweden next week, and will be there for three weeks. I'd really appreciate tips on where to go to have a good time. I'm in for anything friendly, uplifting or funky from psychedelic trance to breakbeat and so on. I've been going to raves and dance events since the early nineties, mainly here in Europe, Stockholm, London and Berlin. From what I've heard you should have a really nice vibe going on there... In Stockholm nearly all of the underground raves (that is those without commercial public flyers) focus on goatrance (psychedelic trance) and the dance clubs go for techno oriented music. SF seems to be more of a mix up, with both jungle and trance played at the events, which seems to be nice. Anyway, I'd also like tips on stores that sell ravey clothes and record stores with dance music. Every hint on anything is welcome... Are there any stores like the Liquid Sky in New York? (By the way, I'm going to the Macromedia UCON conference, if any of you are in to the web business you'll probably know about it. And if you are, it would be really fun to hear from you.) Mail me in person to niklas.alvaeus@netsolutions.se OK, thanks for you time, greetings from Sweden ................................................. mailto:niklas.alvaeus@netsolutions.se Netsolutions Sweden AB http://www.netsolutions.se ................................................. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 18:21:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7070 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 18:21:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 6790 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 18:20:42 -0000 Received: from law-f221.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.159) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 18:20:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 49248 invoked by uid 0); 18 May 1999 18:20:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19990518182014.49247.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.214.138 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:20:13 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.214.138] From: "K Gray" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: KRR: Over-Protective Parents & Raves Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:20:13 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I love this thread. This is why I am on the list. To get another view. I am a mom. I am a raver. My parents were overprotective, so I did lots of things behind their backs for years. Then I went to college where other people were doing lots of bad things, but I was bored with that by then and I moved on. When I started raving, it was really raving. The parties were illegal. You could get arrested for trespassing just for being at the party. Police would break up the parties and hold everyone, searching for drugs. Probable cause, baby. People got arrested. People died. There was no media attention to what was going on. But now the music and the fashion are part of the culture of the last part of the 20th century, so we are all hip to the jargon. To the fashion. To the music. As a parent, my concern is that the precious and beautiful child who I created and carried in my womb and to whom I have given life might be hurt in some way. I will have this concern until the day one of us dies. I do not want him to get sick. I do not want him to get arrested. I do not want someone to break his heart with false promises and false affection. I want him to find true love and happiness, like I did, but without the inevitable heartache and pain. I want to hand him happiness on a silver platter. I do not want to see the beautiful body which I brought into the world destroyed. I do not want to see him wracked with spasms from vomiting, bleeding from his nose, shivering, pale, sleepless, or in a morgue. I do not want to hear him beg, plead and threaten to do the things which I believe will hurt him. I want him to grow up strong and proud. I want him to be healthy. I want him to contribute. To have friends that care and colleagues that respect him. But, it is not about what I want. We are all autonomous individuals with the right and responsibility to grow up strong or to screw up our own lives. So I control the things I can control and am letting go of the things I can't. It isn't about trust. Not completely. They may be able to trust you, but not the other nuts that are out there. Polly Klaas was sleeping in her own room. It is about how hard it is to let go of that perfect being you have created and wait for them to come back to you, inevitably altered, hopefully for better. It is about fear of the unknown and the only frame of reference your parents have is their own rebellious (or not) childhood. And that takes a greater leap of faith than most people can muster. Thank you all for your time and your thoughts. See you on the dancefloor. Peace, Kari From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 18:28:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10640 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 18:28:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 10430 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 18:28:32 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 18:28:32 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-153.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.153]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA11298 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990518170324.006cfc9c@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:03:24 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: Re: why I rave Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You truly are a danger. To what or who I can only assume but none the less you are a dangerous individual. BTW I don't care what the critics say, I will see Star Wars if it's the last thing I do! It will be done! So mote it be! Nuku At 01:43 PM 5/18/99 EDT, you wrote: >s: > ><< Then there > was JNCO, moving right along Addidas, Kikwear, Caffiene. And then there's > the candy kids with their homemade stuff. Candy kids are the bomb. > >[ YUK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I like to combine styles,,Ya Know!? I buy >cool pants then tailor them..sew them in ,,,,,combine popular trends with an >industrial cyberpunk feel >call it ELEKTROPUNK if you will.. just dont shop and wear off the >rack ...contribute to >originality,,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!] > > Music? Well half of it is hella phat, while the other half is wack. > Nevertheless I love rave music best. Punk, NewRo, and Industrial just > don't move me anymore. > >[ Happy house, dive house, is wak ...the rest is ground breaking!!!!!!!!!! >ENJOY IT NOW!!! or spend the rest of your life wishing you took part of a >genre unparalled to that of the sixties hippie movement] > > Then there's that lovey, huggy, respect stuff. I dunno, all my life, I've > kicked it with people like that. It doesn't seem unusual, or special, but > it is important. >> >[ that is the part I could care less about ,,, >respect yes but, enjoy yourself , feel the vibe , hump a speaker!, but, dont >hug me !! my girly gives me all that kinda attention ok! ] > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 18:57:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28139 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 18:57:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 27892 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 18:57:23 -0000 Received: from fes-qout.whowhere.com (HELO mailcity.com) (209.1.236.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 18:57:23 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Tue May 18 11:56:46 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:56:46 -0700 From: "Jimmy Bob Jones" <2dope@mailcity.com> Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: not a very nice welcome mat! X-Sender-Ip: 206.79.217.110 Organization: MailCity (http://www.mailcity.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Please excuse me for disturbing all. I speak truth and my intention is only to interact and retrieve opinion. I AM REAL , believe me I have better things to do than make up stories!! I reserve the right to keep my identity anonymous , I don't see how that pertains to this at all. I have experienced parties without drugs , and I must say those were the best ones. I am sorry if I pissed you off , but I don't think my words gave you right to assault my validity. I want to learn , and I want to teach. We can all learn ( and only learn & grow ) from one another. If you feel that I'm not 'real' enough for your liking than ignore me. BUT I'll say this , drug overdose is REAL , prison is REAL , and love is REAL , all of which I have experienced first or second hand. I am only trying to express my emotions & opinions , please don't degrade me and make me feel worthless. I am not here to fight , but to learn and experience. once again , I'm sorry if I have offended you. peace & respect , slice aka 2dope Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://my.lycos.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 18:57:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28148 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 18:57:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 27901 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 18:57:23 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 18:57:23 -0000 Received: from DjShUbErT@aol.com (3925) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vMDVa19679 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 14:55:30 -0400 (EDT) From: DjShUbErT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:55:30 EDT Subject: Im confused To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk why is it that you cannot get an all night permit in San Jose yet Cool World is throwing their bash at the Santa Clara County Fairgrounds ? Ive been to a handful of San Jose events and i can say only one of them went all night and i dont remember any of them being permitted ..whats the deal? Peace, Shubert From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 19:08:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15701 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 19:08:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 15336 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 19:08:20 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 19:08:20 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA07794; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:08:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905181908.MAA07794@mail.netwiz.net> To: josh sorkin cc: Greg Adair , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [NRR] answer me this please. In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 17 May 1999 16:16:22 -0700 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:08:08 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > I think things could be a lot worse than to have a lot more > of our country addicted to ecstasy than to cigarettes and alcohol. So your > serotonin levels get a little more imbalanced. That's a lot more > reasonable than emphysema and having your liver go sickly pale green > cirrhotic, tortured and twisting in agony as your body eats itself alive in > the throes of the cancer you've given it by pouring on the tars and organic > solvents. This is a complete load of crap. First, MDMA and amphetamines (note that MDMA is an amphetamine analog) in general are EXTREMELY DAMAGING TO YOUR LIVER (to say nothing about your immune system). Probably at least as bad as alcohol if not more-so. THe difference is that alcohol/tobacco is more prevalent, more socially acceptable to society at large, and much easier to get, so there's more prevalence of liver disease with alcohol than E or Amphetamines. With such faulty statistics underpinning your logic, you are lulled into thinking that E is safe and alcohol/tobacco is bad. Your logic is faulty to the core, but what can you expect when your addictions are doing the thinking for you.... Second, w/r/t the bullshit you spew about "tars and organic solvents"... you think MDMA or Amphetamines are made naturally? Think again! There's plenty of carcinogens used in manufacturing these drugs illicitly, and it is very likely that the impurities in the drugs you ingest contain carcinogens left over from the processing. The impurities issue might be addressed by legalization, but quite frankly, I'm glad these drugs remain illegal. THe world is a shitty enough place as it is, i'll be hell when a large percentage of the population becomes MDMA-addled emotional basket cases, or psychotic tweakers from hell. Finally, w/r/t your statement "so what if your serotonin levels get a little imbalanced." That's got to be as stupid a statement as I've ever seen on this list. Right up there with the "E is safer than aspirin" from a few years back. You think long-term depression or serotonin syndrome is some kind of joke? It's at least as bad as liver cancer, just devastating in a different way.. The scary thing is that all the MDMA popping fools out there will be seeing BOTH liver cancer AND immune system damage AND potential long-term mental illness, perhaps not while they're in their invicible teens or twenties, but later, in their forties or fifties, when they've settled down, and perhaps have dependents... I get to hear about E-abusing "ravers" coming in to SF psych hospitals often enough (from a close friend that works at one), and the resulting mental devastation both to themselves and to their family and loved ones is just as ugly as the somatic devastation of lung or liver disease from alcohol or tobacco. I'm so tired of seeing this kind of misinformation on this list... Especially because MDMA-popping fools are already gullible to begin with. These lies are no better than the lies regarding the benefits and lack of health dangers of smoking from tobacco companies in the 40's-60's. When I hear such lies from "ravers" it just makes me wonder whether there's a similar financial motive... > It's pretty pessimistic to say that if we were given a bunch of drugs we > wouldn't know any better than to just overdose on them. If that was the > case, then the rave scene would have extinguished itself long ago as some > kind of nihilistic death cult. Sounds like the scene as we know it. The old victims just quietly die off or wither away or drop out, or get bored, and nobody really notices or cares (but that's PLUR for ya!). Fortunately, the wounded and infirm are readily replaced by young hordes of invicible-seeming teenagers willing to live a lie for a few years until they too burn out, fade away, die off, or get drafted into some cult, whether it be crass capitalism or born again christianity. From a distance, this may appear to be "thriving" but nihilistic death cult is actually much closer to reality. The only people I know with staying power in the scene are those that have long ago realized how shallow and stupid the "nexus of condoned drug use on a weekly basis" really is. They stick aroud for it for the real reasons -- the MUSIC, the DANCING, the vibe, the community and the people, NOT THE DRUGS. > If we can survive in a nexus of condoned drug use on a weekly basis and not > destroy everything we hold dear in some kind of ideological psychosis, then > why can't everyone else? In the 10+ years since the advent of the Acid > House movement, we have proven that it is possible, nay practical, to live > in harmony with drugs of all kinds. I'd say you need to get your ass out of Berkeley. "Holiday in Cambodia" anybody?? > If I saw the nation overrun by candE kids sprawled all over the floors, not > focusing on the "important" things like MONEY and GETTING AHEAD and > DISCRIMINATION, i would weep. > > weep for joy. That's right, we should pop our E's and everything would be fine. Discrimination, suffering, poverty, etc would just melt away. Just like it did with the "dose the world" hippies... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 19:15:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26441 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 19:15:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 26165 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 19:15:03 -0000 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 19:15:03 -0000 Received: from tigger (dynamic29.pm02.sf3d.best.com [209.24.234.93]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id MAA18443 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990518121058.00b323c0@pplus.shell16.ba.best.com> X-Sender: broo51-mike@pplus.shell16.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:19:13 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Mike Galetto Subject: bsp: FAITH for this month Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey guys... i saw ryan's msg on here yesterday bout coming to Faith this week for tracer. should be a kick night. each week this summer we have awesome dj's booked .. it's our whole Summer Party Series. So this month.. in addition to Blackstone and Ruben: Tracer 5/21 John Howard 5/28 we have our entire summer lineup on our website. http://www.blacksotne-productions.com/faith/ have a good one folks.... i'll see some of u at Star Wars tonight i'm sure! =) -mike Mike Galetto Faith Family Have a little **FAITH** http://www.blackstone-productions.com/faith/ mike@blackstone-productions.com mike@sfclubs.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 19:33:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24547 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 19:33:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 24467 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 19:33:13 -0000 Received: from web115.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.88) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 19:33:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990518193533.20244.rocketmail@web115.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web115.yahoomail.com; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:35:33 PDT Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:35:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: Why Are You A Raver? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Same reason for everything... To TRY AND TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!!! *HUGZ* pat ,. '\'\ ,---. | \\ l\\l_ // | _ _ | \\/ `/ `.| | /~\\ //~\ | Y | | || Y | | \\ // | | \| | |\ / | [ || || ] \ | o|o | > / ] Y || || Y [ \___\_--_ /_/__/ | \_|l,------.l|_/ | /.-\(____) /--.\ | >' `< | `--(______)----' \ (/~`--____--'~\) / U// U / \ `-_>-__________-<_-' / \ / /| /(_#(__)#_)\ ( .) / / ] \___/__\___/ `.`' / [ /__`--'__\ |`-' | /\(__,>-~~ __) | |__ /\//\\( `--~~ ) _l |--:. '\/ <^\ /^> | ` ( < \\ _\ >-__-< /_ ,-\ ,-~~->. \ `:.___,/ (___\ /___) (____/ (____) `---' by Sean Gugler Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 19:35:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26541 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 19:35:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 26489 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 19:35:36 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 19:35:36 -0000 Received: from wmfpc-h4 (wmf37.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.160.227]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA02286; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905181935.MAA02286@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: goodvibe@geocities.com From: "Rafie" Subject: RE: Experience... NEXUS CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:35:41 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Isn't that the drug that gay people used before sex cause it loosened them up? What are you up to?... I think you're loose enough already! Rafie On Tue, 18 May 1999 01:46:45 -0700, goodvibe@geocities.com wrote... >I am curious to know about anyone's personal experiences with the "drug" >or "entheogen" known as Nexus / 2C-B... > >Please post as a friend of a friend... > >=Paul*E*Wog > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 19:39:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 946 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 19:39:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 741 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 19:39:07 -0000 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 19:39:07 -0000 Received: from tigger (dynamic29.pm02.sf3d.best.com [209.24.234.93]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id MAA15084 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:38:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990518124328.00b32100@pplus.shell16.ba.best.com> X-Sender: broo51-mike@pplus.shell16.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:44:04 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Mike Galetto Subject: Re: bsp: FAITH for this month In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990518121058.00b323c0@pplus.shell16.ba.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >we have our entire summer lineup on our website. >http://www.blacksotne-productions.com/faith/ typo above. look below in the sig for the correct url =) Mike Galetto Faith Family Have a little **FAITH** http://www.blackstone-productions.com/faith/ mike@blackstone-productions.com mike@sfclubs.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 19:41:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3288 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 19:41:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 3253 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 19:41:04 -0000 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 19:41:04 -0000 Received: from tigger (dynamic29.pm02.sf3d.best.com [209.24.234.93]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id MAA16541 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990518124423.00b35250@pplus.shell16.ba.best.com> X-Sender: broo51-mike@pplus.shell16.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:45:02 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Mike Galetto Subject: Re: bsp: FAITH for this month In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990518121058.00b323c0@pplus.shell16.ba.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >we have our entire summer lineup on our website. >http://www.blacksotne-productions.com/faith/ type above. look below in the sig for the correct url. =) Mike Galetto Faith Family Have a little **FAITH** http://www.blackstone-productions.com/faith/ mike@blackstone-productions.com mike@sfclubs.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 19:52:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13793 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 19:52:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 13680 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 19:52:12 -0000 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (140.142.32.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 19:52:12 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA23375; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:52:08 -0700 Message-ID: <00ef01bea167$f60552c0$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: "Paul*E*Wog" , "SFRaves" Subject: Re: Experience... NEXUS Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:52:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I would stay away on account of general fear, but talk to a chemesty expert, they are resevoirs of information. But if it safe, I would go for it, perhaps I am just partial on account of what it rhymes with... Alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- ...the unforgettable prestigious reaches manifested by the northwestern region... -=-Hieroglyphics -----Original Message----- From: Paul*E*Wog To: SFRaves Date: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 1:45 AM Subject: Experience... NEXUS >I am curious to know about anyone's personal experiences with the "drug" >or "entheogen" known as Nexus / 2C-B... > >Please post as a friend of a friend... > >=Paul*E*Wog From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 20:03:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29651 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 20:03:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 29570 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 20:03:09 -0000 Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.119) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 20:03:09 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom9.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id NAA18709; Tue, 18 May 1999 13:03:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 13:03:06 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Re: Why Are You A Raver? To: E-Bumpers By the Bay In-Reply-To: <19990518193533.20244.rocketmail@web115.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i'm not. i'm a DJ. :o) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 20:07:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6694 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 20:07:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 6490 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 20:07:12 -0000 Received: from web302.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.184) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 20:07:12 -0000 Message-ID: <19990518200852.8292.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [192.203.46.14] by web302.yahoomail.com; Tue, 18 May 1999 13:08:52 PDT Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 13:08:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Natasha Subject: First Light - Thank You To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey everybody, Thank you to everypone that came out to First Light this weekend. We hope that everybody had a great time there. I just wanted to say thank you on behalf of myself and Macadio to everyone that made this party happen. Special thanks to all of the DJ's for putting on an awesome show and all of our crew who put in long hours to keep everything running smoothly. Keep your ears open for more great parties to come. Have a great day... Love, Tasha Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 20:17:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18413 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 20:17:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 18154 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 20:16:49 -0000 Received: from web808.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 20:16:49 -0000 Message-ID: <19990518202008.29790.rocketmail@web808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.99] by web808.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 18 May 1999 13:20:08 PDT Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 13:20:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: sfdb.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This site is awesome, d&b heads check it out if you havent already, i dont know why i just barely figured that out, oh well. enjoy jess Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 20:26:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1975 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 20:26:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 1620 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 20:25:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gigi.excite.com) (199.172.152.110) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 20:25:59 -0000 Received: from speedy.excite.com ([199.172.152.78]) by gigi.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990518202627.VRLL21456.gigi@speedy.excite.com> for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 13:26:27 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: parents and such... Message-Id: <927059130.2774.173@excite.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 13:25:30 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk as someone who's carried the "fairy rave mom" banner for some years, it is very moving to read keri's post describing what it feels like as a mother... and as a raver. please, everyone, read and re-read what she says. there are a few other parents on this list who know what she's talking about... who know how overwhelming the feelings you have for your child are... when you love them with all of your heart, and you watch them walking into the world... in a blind and innocent way.. and you know the things that could be there to harm them... words cannot describe the emotional desire to protect your kids. unfortunately, some parents are better than others at gradually increasing the "leash" as their kid matures, and so the child isn't actually aware there IS a leash, because it's being let out at just the right rate. for most, though, there are time periods where the kid is pulling against the restrictions, and the parent must pull back harder in order to feel like they have some control... this is totally natural, but really, the kid needs to stop fighting instead of making it an all-out tug-of-war, i think. so many of you on here are so young... sometimes it's funny (like complaining about finals? can i just say, enjoy it now, cuz if you think school is rough, wait until you start working every day! with no summer vacation, ok? and no chance for a whole new schedule in a couple of months) and so you think your parents don't understand you or whatever... please have some patience with them, because most of them are doing the best they can to help get you into adulthood without total mishap. and most of your parents come from an entirely different world.... so instead of fighting against them, take some time to put yourself in their shoes, sit for an hour or so and just imagine that you are them... and what their experiences have been, and how they perceive you and their role in helping you become an adult. imagine that YOU are the one holding the leash to the kid you've spent years being responsible for, and imagine what it would take to make you gradually get used to the idea that they're going to have to run free someday soon. and frankly, if some of you were *my* kids, i'd probably rein you in and ground you too. sneaking out of your house, buying nasty drugs from people you don't know, rolling around on nasty floors and then talking publicly (and often with shallowness) about it on your internet group all week... hmmm. wonder what someone might think is wrong with *that*?!?!? as a mother of an amazing 21-yr-old who went through all of the usual childhood and adolescent trauma, and as a committed raver who's seen many sides of the scene, i relate to both sides of this story. i often stand in a party and look at it from the perspective of an outsider. last week at first light, i was walking back into the main room after getting water, and a guy was saying to his young teenager girlfried as they entered the room... "are you ok? a little scared?" ... and i was reminded that it CAN be scary to enter our world of sensory overload, when you're a young kid and you don't know what to expect. and i was dancing and watched a group of kids who reminded me of last week's "asian invasion" thread, who were no more than 16 at best, so high they couldn't even focus, and one girl couldn't stop bouncing on her boyfriend, and i knew that if here parents saw her at that moment, their hearts would break and they would have been terrified. and the kids i've sat with in the medical rooms at many parties over the years, who were near death because they took something their body couldn't handle, and they were afraid to get the medical care they needed because their parents would find out where they had gone when they lied. and the fresh and open kids who entered the scene sparking pure and sober, and over a period of time started using drugs that changed them, took away their optimism and their enthusiasm and left them jaded and bored. frankly, this is one of the reasons i have chosen to stay a visible figure in the "candy raver" scene.... because i think it's important that someone who is a parent and who also understands the seduction of the scene is there. i want kids to know who i am so that they know that when they are 45, they can still be partying, because it IS about the music and dancing... it's NOT about drugs... while drugs are certainly a catalyst in our scene, the scene could still exist without the drugs.... but it cannot exist without the music. but... again we have this same message that appears periodically ... you WILL understand it as you get older. for those who don't understand their parents, please hear me when i say that once you are a parent yourself, it will become blindingly clear in a painful flash, and you *will* apologize for the trouble you gave them. in the meantime, don't confuse adulthood with the ability to do whatever you want.... cuz it just ain't true. love, leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 20:34:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13601 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 20:34:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 13236 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 20:34:17 -0000 Received: from web109.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.76) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 20:34:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990518203440.1178.rocketmail@web109.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.30.76.220] by web109.yahoomail.com; Tue, 18 May 1999 13:34:40 PDT Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 13:34:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Marco Mancia Subject: Info. for U.K. list|? To: scr@socal-raves.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk anyone know or know where to get the info. for the list for England and surronding areas.......? === -marco zapAtuR........"23" dj diablo (diabeter) ---------------------- Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 21:08:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26147 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 21:08:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 26133 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 21:08:34 -0000 Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (209.185.123.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 21:08:34 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by hotbot.com; Tue May 18 14:07:59 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:07:59 -0700 From: "FREQ MAGNET" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: d&b kiks rear! X-Sender-Ip: 216.102.196.219 Organization: HotBot Mail (http://mail.hotbot.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk dammit! i just found out that my mom's getting married in reno on the 30th so i can't go to metropolis! fuck. i hella wanted to go... plus the next day they're having that jungle *parade* thing for julia butterfly like 2 blocks away from my house in SF! wtf?! i hate this shit... on a *happier* note, i went to tha formula and it was the sickest party yet! oh my gawsh, they've got it goin on on the east coast baybee! i wish 1.8.7. would spin out in sf more often cuz her set was tight! i had so much fun on saturday--thanks naomi & markis! :) i got the squirt tape & met some cool people. and i got to dance with mikey. hehe. ;) my legs are still sore (partly cuz i went to an anti-war demonstration on market that morning & i was walking all day...besides dancing for 6 hours straight!) wow. so..i'm looking forward to more parties like this. jungle is definitely where it's at! love & rage, catrina HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 21:12:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29159 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 21:12:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 28925 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 21:12:24 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 21:12:24 -0000 Received: from DjShUbErT@aol.com (3930) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id yIUPa29725; Tue, 18 May 1999 17:10:45 -0400 (EDT) From: DjShUbErT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:10:32 EDT Subject: Re: d&b kiks rear! To: quietriot@hotbot.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk so skip the wedding !! jk Peace, Shubert From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 21:46:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25876 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 21:46:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 25856 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 21:46:06 -0000 Received: from wya-oe18.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.83) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 21:46:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 74530 invoked by uid 0); 18 May 1999 21:49:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19990518214904.74529.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 153.37.197.82 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 18 May 1999 14:49:04 PDT X-Originating-IP: [153.37.197.82] From: "dj _haK" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: BSP: applesauce 5.30.99 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:49:04 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk san jose 5.30 2.pm till 2.am jungle dj's symplex siphon honey b sifu raw siren ufo sage hak + trance scott dc keith edwards skyscraper oddeci matthew +funky beats mei lwun darkhorse m3 chris haycock alvaro stuart +house jonene tasho preston rasoul chris perrins harry who? free b4 4.pm $10.00 after ecco 87 n.san pedro 408.793.0328 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 21:55:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3093 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 21:55:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 2955 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 21:55:03 -0000 Received: from kzsu.stanford.edu (36.118.0.90) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 21:55:03 -0000 Received: from kzsu.Stanford.EDU (KZSU.Stanford.EDU [36.118.0.90]) by kzsu.Stanford.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA02932; Tue, 18 May 1999 14:54:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:54:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "J.C." To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: BSP: An Epiphany of Sound - 5/18/99 Message-ID: X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, I wanted to let you all know that I'm happy to have a couple of Stargaze family members as guest DJs tonight. We've got both EZRay and Stillwind supplying the beats, spinning some trance and other assorted fun things for you for the entire 3 hours from 9pm - Midnight. And keep in mind that our very own ferret, Shane, will be the guest for next Tuesday. Tune in on your way to Static! And if you can't pick us up over the air, see below for the RealAudio details. -- "An Epiphany of Sound" - 90.1 FM Tuesdays from 9PM-Mid Pacific. (Also on the web at http://realaudio.stanford.edu/). Playlists and humor list archives at http://www-kzsu.stanford.edu/~dougm "Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of KZSU Radio or Stanford University." (or words to that effect.) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 21:56:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5057 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 21:56:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 5042 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 21:56:44 -0000 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (140.142.32.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 21:56:44 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id OAA03392; Tue, 18 May 1999 14:56:43 -0700 Message-ID: <016901bea179$5d7c6220$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: "dj _haK" , Subject: Re: applesauce 5.30.99 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:57:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Wow, this looks dope! I hope it lives up to its name-----> I like my beats like I like my applesauce: Chunky, sweet and free of sketchy additions... Peace Alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- ...the unforgettable prestigious reaches manifested by the northwestern region... -=-Hieroglyphics -----Original Message----- From: dj _haK To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 2:46 PM Subject: BSP: applesauce 5.30.99 >san jose 5.30 2.pm till 2.am > >jungle dj's >symplex >siphon >honey b >sifu >raw >siren >ufo >sage >hak > >+ trance >scott dc >keith edwards >skyscraper >oddeci >matthew > >+funky beats >mei lwun >darkhorse >m3 >chris haycock >alvaro >stuart > >+house >jonene >tasho >preston >rasoul >chris perrins >harry who? > >free b4 4.pm >$10.00 after >ecco 87 n.san pedro >408.793.0328 > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 21:59:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6901 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 21:59:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 6837 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 21:59:19 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 21:59:19 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA06143 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 14:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id VAA01472 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 21:56:29 GMT From: "MooK<><" To: "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" Subject: RE: An Epiphany of Sound - 5/18/99 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:05:09 -0700 Message-ID: <004601bea17a$7eec25c0$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 In-Reply-To: Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk woohoo!!! now dems is good beats. =D MooK<>< > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of J.C. > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 2:55 PM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: BSP: An Epiphany of Sound - 5/18/99 > > > Well, I wanted to let you all know that I'm happy to have a couple > of Stargaze family members as guest DJs tonight. We've got both > EZRay and Stillwind supplying the beats, spinning some trance and > other assorted fun things for you for the entire 3 hours from 9pm > - Midnight. > > And keep in mind that our very own ferret, Shane, will be the > guest for next Tuesday. > > Tune in on your way to Static! > > And if you can't pick us up over the air, see below for the RealAudio > details. > > -- > "An Epiphany of Sound" - 90.1 FM Tuesdays from 9PM-Mid Pacific. > (Also on the web at http://realaudio.stanford.edu/). Playlists > and humor list archives at http://www-kzsu.stanford.edu/~dougm > > "Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of > KZSU Radio or Stanford University." (or words to that effect.) > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 22:07:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11964 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 22:07:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 11794 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 22:07:37 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd95.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.159) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 22:07:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 65288 invoked by uid 0); 18 May 1999 22:08:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19990518220832.65287.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.251.193.225 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 18 May 1999 15:08:31 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.251.193.225] From: "ve anne" To: dj_hak@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: BSP: applesauce 5.30.99 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:08:31 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk gettin' jungle happy drunk from 2pm to 2am woohoo! it's fun being 21 :) veanne ps. anyone notice the phallic symbol on the applesauce flyer? From: "dj _haK" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: BSP: applesauce 5.30.99 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:49:04 PDT san jose 5.30 2.pm till 2.am jungle dj's symplex siphon honey b sifu raw siren ufo sage hak + trance scott dc keith edwards skyscraper oddeci matthew +funky beats mei lwun darkhorse m3 chris haycock alvaro stuart +house jonene tasho preston rasoul chris perrins harry who? free b4 4.pm $10.00 after ecco 87 n.san pedro 408.793.0328 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 22:36:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28486 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 22:36:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 28371 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 22:36:03 -0000 Received: from web802.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.62) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 22:36:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19990518223541.24161.rocketmail@web802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.99] by web802.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 18 May 1999 15:35:41 PDT Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:35:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: BSP: applesauce 5.30.99 To: ve anne , dj_hak@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I went to club Ecco on sunday and I kept wandering from room to room thinkin I would find jungle, even though i knew it wouldnt be there, that place is gonna go off with junglists fillin it up!! MAJOR PROPS to UA for keepin the scene alive in the south bay, you folks rule, and I dont know what the south bay would do without your dedication and jungle love!! Peace, Jess --- ve anne wrote: > gettin' jungle happy drunk from 2pm to 2am > woohoo! it's fun being 21 :) > > veanne > ps. anyone notice the phallic symbol on the > applesauce flyer? > > > From: "dj _haK" > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: BSP: applesauce 5.30.99 > Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:49:04 PDT > > san jose 5.30 2.pm till 2.am > > jungle dj's > symplex > siphon > honey b > sifu > raw > siren > ufo > sage > hak > > + trance > scott dc > keith edwards > skyscraper > oddeci > matthew > > +funky beats > mei lwun > darkhorse > m3 > chris haycock > alvaro > stuart > > +house > jonene > tasho > preston > rasoul > chris perrins > harry who? > > free b4 4.pm > $10.00 after > ecco 87 n.san pedro > 408.793.0328 > > > > > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 22:36:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29467 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 22:36:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 29373 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 22:36:33 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 22:36:33 -0000 Received: from Gammbino@aol.com (14378) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vTFFa02602; Tue, 18 May 1999 18:35:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Gammbino@aol.com Message-ID: <10cfc641.2473453d@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:35:41 EDT Subject: Re: KRR: Over-Protective Parents & Raves To: Taiida@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey folks! =) Well to put my lil mouth and words in cause my mom gets all freaky about "raves" sometimes. Like Acid Breaks 3!! Dayum-it she said the guy in the suit was like a friggin devil. what the helll?!? go figure Anyways My mom knows they're called raves and sometimes she calls them rages or regas *shrugs* but some of you who's rents are strict should call them parties if they don't like that word say it's Sorry for using this word a concert with DJ's battling to see whos the best or something like that. Well thats enough from me.... Good Luck! PLUR ^v^Kent From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 22:39:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3252 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 22:39:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 3111 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 22:39:28 -0000 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (140.142.32.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 22:39:28 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id PAA07997; Tue, 18 May 1999 15:39:22 -0700 Message-ID: <01af01bea17f$52cae620$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: , Cc: Subject: Re: KRR: Over-Protective Parents & Raves Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:39:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Dances. It's all about dances. Peace, Alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- ...the unforgettable prestigious reaches manifested by the northwestern region... -=-Hieroglyphics -----Original Message----- From: Gammbino@aol.com To: Taiida@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 3:36 PM Subject: Re: KRR: Over-Protective Parents & Raves >Hey folks! =) Well to put my lil mouth and words in cause my mom gets all >freaky about "raves" sometimes. Like Acid Breaks 3!! Dayum-it she said the >guy in the suit was like a friggin devil. what the helll?!? go figure Anyways >My mom knows they're called raves and sometimes she calls them rages or regas >*shrugs* but some of you who's rents are strict should call them parties if >they don't like that word say it's Sorry for using this word a concert with >DJ's battling to see whos the best or something like that. Well thats enough >from me.... Good Luck! > > PLUR > ^v^Kent From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 22:47:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8790 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 22:47:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 8756 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 22:47:35 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd116.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.180) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 22:47:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 58829 invoked by uid 0); 18 May 1999 22:47:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19990518224707.58828.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.188.192.53 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 18 May 1999 15:47:07 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.188.192.53] From: "sHaWn ." To: goodvibe@geocities.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Experience... NEXUS Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:47:07 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk My girlfriend's brother's best friend told me it was one of the best "trips" he had ever had and what the effects of nexus did to him were mind blowing. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 22:52:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15710 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 22:52:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 15702 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 22:52:54 -0000 Received: from netcom16.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.129) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 22:52:54 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom16.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id PAA19470; Tue, 18 May 1999 15:52:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:52:52 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: RE: the 'rents To: E-Bumpers By the Bay Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk it's always been my philosophy to be up front with my folks about stuff, even when i've known it might cause tension between us. i figure the tensions associated with differing opinions on entertainment, lovers, automobiles, etc. etc. etc. are much easier to deal with than tensions associated with deception. i can remember how hard it was to tell my folks about the "naughty" things i'd done in my life. i remember how hard it was to tell my folks that i was going to be at a party all night and spinning records at 3am (eternal). i remember how hard it was to tell my folks that i was spending my "extra" money on synthesizers and my "spare" time on writing electronic music. but you know what? that level of honesty has allowed me to share this aspect of my life with them. i've been able to listen to the music with my folks (my dad really digs Goa Trance... i try to tell him "No Dad! The breaks! The breaks!!!" but it just doesn't get through), i show them photos from parties, they listen to the info line messages and they even wound up on my latest record. i'm happy to share my life with my parents, and i'm happy to be honest with them, even when we don't agree 100% on everything. in the end, it's just easier to be honest. especially with your parents. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 22:58:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18978 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 22:58:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 18675 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 22:57:40 -0000 Received: from jmail.co.jp (HELO calvin.iac.co.jp) (209.85.120.230) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 22:57:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 5188 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 22:57:54 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO jmail.co.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 May 1999 22:57:54 -0000 From: "Chris" Reply-to: prototype@raveaddict.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:57:54 GST -1080 Subject: Re: KRR: Over-Protective Parents & Raves Message-id: <3741f072.143c.0@jmail.co.jp> X-User-Info: 171.133.216.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Hey folks! =) Well to put my lil mouth and words in cause my mom gets all >freaky about "raves" sometimes. Like Acid Breaks 3!! Dayum-it she said the >guy in the suit was like a friggin devil. what the helll?!? go figure Anyways >My mom knows they're called raves and sometimes she calls them rages or regas >*shrugs* but some of you who's rents are strict should call them parties if >they don't like that word say it's Sorry for using this word a concert with >DJ's battling to see whos the best or something like that. Well thats enough I always just call them parties. I call up some friends and say "You wanna go to a party this weekend?" and they say "A *party* or a *rave*?" My mom's always saying "Are you going to another dance this weekend?" Makes me think I'm still in school and I'm going to the prom or some shit. My parents were always pretty strict about letting me go out where they weren't sure of what was going on, so I never even went to a party until after I turned 18 last year. I still live with my parents, but now that they're not responsible for me, they let me take off whenever and wherever I want. I guess it's both good and bad, since I never had to argue with them about going to a rave, but I also didn't even start partying until last September, and from what I've heard, the scene used to be a lot better, with all these underground parties and shit. I've never been to a party that's been busted (thank goodness). I just can't wait until I move out, and I can bring people back to my house after parties, and have E parties, and all kinds of fun shit, because for now I have to keep it all outside my house, and it saddens me that I can't surround myself in the aura of a rave while in my own house. "Turn down that bass!" is all I hear when I play my records. I worry about what's going to happen when I get my tables and start practicing all the time. At least they don't give me shit when I come home at 7:30 am :) -=Chris, the Prototypical Prototype=- (a bit redundant, but I DON'T GIVE A FUCK) >><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>>< Get your FRESH, FREE, FUNKY email account at http://www.MUSICOSM.com! Visit today! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 22:58:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19161 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 22:58:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 18676 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 22:57:40 -0000 Received: from jmail.co.jp (HELO calvin.iac.co.jp) (209.85.120.230) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 22:57:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 5188 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 22:57:54 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO jmail.co.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 May 1999 22:57:54 -0000 From: "Chris" Reply-to: prototype@raveaddict.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:57:54 GST -1080 Subject: Re: KRR: Over-Protective Parents & Raves Message-id: <3741f072.143c.0@jmail.co.jp> X-User-Info: 171.133.216.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Hey folks! =) Well to put my lil mouth and words in cause my mom gets all >freaky about "raves" sometimes. Like Acid Breaks 3!! Dayum-it she said the >guy in the suit was like a friggin devil. what the helll?!? go figure Anyways >My mom knows they're called raves and sometimes she calls them rages or regas >*shrugs* but some of you who's rents are strict should call them parties if >they don't like that word say it's Sorry for using this word a concert with >DJ's battling to see whos the best or something like that. Well thats enough I always just call them parties. I call up some friends and say "You wanna go to a party this weekend?" and they say "A *party* or a *rave*?" My mom's always saying "Are you going to another dance this weekend?" Makes me think I'm still in school and I'm going to the prom or some shit. My parents were always pretty strict about letting me go out where they weren't sure of what was going on, so I never even went to a party until after I turned 18 last year. I still live with my parents, but now that they're not responsible for me, they let me take off whenever and wherever I want. I guess it's both good and bad, since I never had to argue with them about going to a rave, but I also didn't even start partying until last September, and from what I've heard, the scene used to be a lot better, with all these underground parties and shit. I've never been to a party that's been busted (thank goodness). I just can't wait until I move out, and I can bring people back to my house after parties, and have E parties, and all kinds of fun shit, because for now I have to keep it all outside my house, and it saddens me that I can't surround myself in the aura of a rave while in my own house. "Turn down that bass!" is all I hear when I play my records. I worry about what's going to happen when I get my tables and start practicing all the time. At least they don't give me shit when I come home at 7:30 am :) -=Chris, the Prototypical Prototype=- (a bit redundant, but I DON'T GIVE A FUCK) >><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>>< Get your FRESH, FREE, FUNKY email account at http://www.MUSICOSM.com! Visit today! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 23:05:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26826 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 23:05:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 26818 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 23:05:21 -0000 Received: from web125.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.193) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 23:05:21 -0000 Message-ID: <19990518230752.14965.rocketmail@web125.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.54.27] by web125.yahoomail.com; Tue, 18 May 1999 16:07:52 PDT Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 16:07:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: applesauce question To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Is this going to be a +21 event? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 23:19:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6863 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 23:19:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 6841 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 23:19:38 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 23:19:38 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (535) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3ABRa26942 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 19:18:22 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <9b739c84.24734f3b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 19:18:19 EDT Subject: Re: KRR: Over-Protective Parents & Raves To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Freedom is a two-way street. It goes one way, but Responsibility goes the other. Yes, Parents are protective... sometimes unreasonably so, but it is always out of love. As a child, teen (whatever you want to call yourself) you have to earn the right to freedom. What have you done to earn your right to party?? Until you are 18 your parents are legally responsible for you. Get caught by a cop driving home from a party on drugs?? Where does the blame fall?? I see so many kids going to parties who's parents have no idea where they are, what they are doing, etc. Raves can be a great place for teens to go since there aren't places for us to party until we're 18, but you have to be responsible about what you are doing. Have you lied to your parents about going to a party? Have you forgotten to call home or just not come home at all?? Try talking to your parents... the more involved they are in your life the better relationship you'll have with them. Start taking them to daytime parties to show them that it's a good scene for you to be in. Take agency for all your actions... any past slipups like sneaking out or lying should be used as a lesson not to get in trouble in the future. WOrk out a curfew if you have to. Going until 2 am is better than not going at all (trust me, I had to do it for a year). BE HONEST! if you call in the morning to let your parents know you are alright and who you are with and where the party is at they'll be much more at easy and more likely to let you go. I still have lots of restrictions, but I've proven that I'm responsible to my mom and she trusts me. Trust is a big issue. She even comes to parties sometimes to say hi and see how I'm doing =) What makes me sad is to see the parents that DON"T CARE. the one's who's kids are out all weekend without checking in, drugged out of their minds and PSH! so what?? THey're teens, they'll do whatever they want anyways, right?? WRONG! you have a future and Partying should not be your number one priority. It's really easy this early in the game to slip up. Stay on track, be responsible and mature and eventually you will come to an agreement with your parents. Patience is difficult (i'm the last person you have to tell about that) but one thing I've learned is that it shows maturity and will get you a lot further than throwing a hissy fit. There are plenty of good ways to open up your parents to the idea of raving without them freaking out on you. Good luck! and feel very special and loved that your parents care so much about your well being. I feel sorry for anyone's who don't. hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 23:19:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7090 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 23:19:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 6924 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 23:19:43 -0000 Received: from f266.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.157) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 23:19:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 38680 invoked by uid 0); 18 May 1999 23:19:16 -0000 Message-ID: <19990518231916.38679.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.101.121.177 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 18 May 1999 16:19:15 PDT X-Originating-IP: [216.101.121.177] From: "p r" To: dougm@kzsu.stanford.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: questionorbital Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 16:19:15 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hi all, just curious if Orbital ever played in the bay/when? Are they gonna play here again in the future? sites i can get info? pls private reply. peace Petros Rotsides SJSU "Pan metron ariston" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 23:23:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11653 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 23:23:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 11623 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 23:23:10 -0000 Received: from fletch.fix.net (telkionish@206.190.71.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 23:23:10 -0000 Received: from localhost (telkionish@localhost) by fletch.fix.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA00803 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 16:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 16:23:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Adair To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: the 'rents Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ----- Original Message ----- From: unclenoah To: E-Bumpers By the Bay Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 3:52 PM Subject: RE: the 'rents > > i'm happy to share my life with my parents, and i'm happy to be honest > with them, even when we don't agree 100% on everything. > > in the end, it's just easier to be honest. especially with your parents. > > This gets about a million times easier once you move out, and am not supported by them anymore... My parents are psycho religious, and I wasnt buying any of it... But they didnt decide that I was allowed to have my own opinions until they realized that I could leave at any time, and they couldnt force me to do anything anymore (around the age of 19).. That is why I only made it to a few raves back in high school, and all those I had to lie about.. They made me lie to them... Now they can't ground me, take away my car, or make me go to church, so I tell them anything they ask, as casually as if they asked what color shoes I am wearing.. And let me tell you, my mom is really careful about what she asks me about nowdays... My parents did a good job raising me overall, but I dont think I will do the same thing with my kids.. I still feel angry every time I drive by a church because my parents didnt realize that I was capable of making my own decisions when I was 13 (and I did every time their back turned for a second)... Funny thing is, I am currently the only totally self-sufficient child they have, and I am not the oldest.. So your parents wont let you go to a rave... They are afraid that you are going to go there and overdose, and end up in the hospital, because you dont know how to handle yourself... There are a few people out there that will, but I bet the vast majority wont.. Sure I am not one of the many old and wize people we have here on the list, but it has been a really long time since I was in high school.. But I remember what it was like to be 13, 14, 15... And personally I would rather dance my ass off with an energetic 13 year old than a judgemental 25 year old.. and if my parents werent such Nazi's I would have been at the legendary rave under the yolo causeway ('92 i think.. was anybody else from the list there?).. Greg From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 23:35:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24121 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 23:35:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 23930 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 23:35:29 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 23:35:29 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com (318) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vWOWa11104; Tue, 18 May 1999 19:34:19 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: <53e0474c.247352fb@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 19:34:19 EDT Subject: Re: KRR: Over-Protective Parents & Raves To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, it's been 6 months since my first party and these 6 months have been the best of my life. I've found someplace where i feel i fit in with people I love to see. Theres just something about being in a hot, sweaty, dark warehouse with 1788 people I dont know that makes me feel so happy. My mom ( I live with my mom) doesn't know I go to parties. I just tell her i'm spending the night at a friends house (which I usually end up doing anyway) I don't like lying to my mom but I feel it's just something I have to do. If I told her I went to parties and explained everything to her, showed her flyers, showed her pictures, and she said no I dont want you going to those I would be crushed. Raves are a part of my life, I look forward to going to parties every week, and if she didn't want me to go anymore I wouldn't. It might be hard to understand for some people but what my mom doesn't know hasn't hurt her, and hopefully never will. Matt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 23:41:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1162 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 23:41:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 1036 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 23:41:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO airlink.com) (199.108.92.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 23:41:02 -0000 Received: from [199.108.92.47] by airlink.com (SMTPD32-3.02) id AB354C10012E; Tue, 18 May 1999 16:43:49 -0700 From: "Rick" To: "p r" , "SFRaves" Subject: RE: questionorbital Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 16:36:41 -0700 Message-ID: <001a01bea187$4858f940$2f5c6cc7@tatooine.AirLink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <19990518231916.38679.qmail@hotmail.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk orbital will be playing in sf with these groups on july 23rd. Joining all the big U.S. rock tours this summer is a newly announced electronic package that will feature full sets from the Crystal Method, Orbital, and Lo Fidelity Allstars, with DJ John Kelley mixing vinyl in between. July 23, San Francisco your jedi bitch, jedi666boy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 23:49:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10504 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 23:49:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 10311 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 23:49:45 -0000 Received: from law-f50.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.113) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 23:49:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 4654 invoked by uid 0); 18 May 1999 23:52:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19990518235235.4653.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.113.171.133 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 18 May 1999 16:52:34 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.113.171.133] From: "trancebaby_ NBC" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: OPEN APOLOGY TO Gianni3333 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 16:52:34 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk to whom it may concern, which should be next to nobody, I am apologizing to Gianni3333 for using VORG as reference to his name on the BSP regarding Discovery. I mearly meant to draw younger people (under21) to his name as they might not know who he is and the fact that he did play at the VORG party might help them remember his name. I am sorry, for me promotion is simply that and any way you can draw recognition to a DJ's name is helpful. Soooo, MR. Gianni3333 there you have it. By the by, it is my party, I did book you (or greg did) but whatever the case I can cut you as well, so! point being made and apology openly provided I will now retreat to my place in this world and see you tomorrow. peace and LOVE Raoul. . . From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 18 23:53:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16026 invoked by uid 6000); 18 May 1999 23:53:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 15713 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 23:53:43 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 23:53:43 -0000 Received: from Oct1faith@aol.com (14403) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vQCAa26942 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 19:53:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Oct1faith@aol.com Message-ID: <3d860300.24735768@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 19:53:12 EDT Subject: Fwd: BP: Faith this Thursday/update To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_3d860300.24735768_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_3d860300.24735768_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_3d860300.24735768_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: Oct1faith@aol.com From: Oct1faith@aol.com Full-name: Oct1faith Message-ID: <3d860300.24735710@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 19:51:44 EDT Subject: Re: BP: Faith this Thursday To: binary_fineboy@iname.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 In a message dated 5/17/99 8:19:41 PM EST, binary_fineboy@iname.com writes: > CLUB FAITH - 3rd and Harrison in SF > DJs: Reuben Mancias (house) > Blackstone (who promises not to spin any cher) > TRACER (2 hour trance set) > AGES: 18+ (with ID) > > Cover: free before 11, $10 after > free before 11 with flier Ryan forgot that part see ya there, Blackstone --part1_3d860300.24735768_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 00:00:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24060 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 00:00:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 23917 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 00:00:40 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 00:00:40 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA10908 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 17:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id XAA26912 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 23:57:51 GMT From: "MooK<><" To: "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" Subject: RE: the 'rents Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:06:31 -0700 Message-ID: <005801bea18b$733ce7d0$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 In-Reply-To: Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk First of all: Your parents didn't make you lie, you lied because you wanted to do your own thing and not obey your parents. You made the choice, they didn't. Second: You were not able to make your own decision at the age of 13. You were just starting to become head strong, and so you believed (as almost every 13 year old does) that you in your 13 years of life experience knew better than your parents of their 40+ years of experience, as if they were never a rebelious 13 year old. Third: I would rather party with a responsible 25 year old than a reckless 13 year old. The 25 year old more than likely has learned their limits, the 13 year old's body hasn't even fully developed and definately shouldn't be ingesting mind altering substances. on top of that the 13 year old has a higher chance of ODing and going to the emergency room. I agree that once you move out, it is easier to do what you want without parental influence. However, I disagree that anyone that is still dealing with puberty issues has the experience and the maturity to be staying out all night, experimenting with drugs, in any environment, let alone a rave. When I was younger I thought I knew enough to make my own decisions and do what I wanted. The older I get the more I realize how young and rash I was. I realize now that I still have a long way to go and I'm almost 23. My biggest worry about your post is that it might encourage others to bring young kids to parties or some internet savy teen to decide that they are old and mature enough to go to a "rave" and do whatever they feel like, just because someone other than their parents said it was OK. What you chose may have been a good choice for you, but it is by no means an ok one for eveyone else. =) MooK<>< > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of Greg Adair > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 4:23 PM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: the 'rents > > > This gets about a million times easier once you move out, and am not > supported by them anymore... My parents are psycho religious, and I wasnt > buying any of it... But they didnt decide that I was allowed to have my > own opinions until they realized that I could leave at any time, and they > couldnt force me to do anything anymore (around the age of 19).. That is > why I only made it to a few raves back in high school, and all those I had > to lie about.. They made me lie to them... Now they can't ground me, take > away my car, or make me go to church, so I tell them anything they ask, as > casually as if they asked what color shoes I am wearing.. And let me tell > you, my mom is really careful about what she asks me about nowdays... My > parents did a good job raising me overall, but I dont think I will do the > same thing with my kids.. I still feel angry every time I drive by a > church because my parents didnt realize that I was capable of making my > own decisions when I was 13 (and I did every time their back turned for a > second)... Funny thing is, I am currently the only totally > self-sufficient child they have, and I am not the oldest.. > > So your parents wont let you go to a rave... They are afraid that you are > going to go there and overdose, and end up in the hospital, because you > dont know how to handle yourself... There are a few people out there that > will, but I bet the vast majority wont.. Sure I am not one of the many > old and wize people we have here on the list, but it has been a really > long time since I was in high school.. But I remember what it was like to > be 13, 14, 15... And personally I would rather dance my ass off with an > energetic 13 year old than a judgemental 25 year old.. and if my parents > werent such Nazi's I would have been at the legendary rave under the yolo > causeway ('92 i think.. was anybody else from the list there?).. > > Greg > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 00:14:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5819 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 00:14:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 5783 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 00:14:39 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd92.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.156) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 00:14:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 65655 invoked by uid 0); 19 May 1999 00:14:12 -0000 Message-ID: <19990519001412.65654.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.24.117.85 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 18 May 1999 17:14:12 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.24.117.85] From: "cassandra thomas" To: tsheets@saturn5.com Cc: standish@sfsu.edu, OXnymphXO@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Hippies At Raves Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:14:12 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think Tommy got a rap as a racist partly also cause there were some rumors flying that he told his stores to allow inner city kids to steal his clothes so he would gain street cred. the real story? who knows? butmy instinct would be don't buy the hype.... -cass >From: Troy Sheets >To: tsheets@saturn5.com (Troy Sheets) >CC: standish@sfsu.edu, OXnymphXO@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: Hippies At Raves >Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:53:28 -0700 (PDT) > > >I am getting a lot of private emails about this statement... people >asking "Really? Tommy's not a racist?" > >If you are interested, check out the book "Hip Hop America" by Nelson >George... >there is a chapter that talks all about it.... > >Tommy has embraced the street/urban/minority culture that has taken a >liking >to his clothes. > >C'mon, a racist fashion designer? It just does not make any sense... > >-troy > > > > > > you, to resemble hippy stuff, doesn't mean that every raver, raves for > > > hippy like reasons. Look around you; do you think all those Hilfiger >clad > > > ravers give shit one about hippy stuff? If they did they wouldn't be > > > wearing that racist asshole's clothing. > > > > You are perpetuating an urban myth. Tommy Hilfiger is not a racist... >he > > never dissed the minorities that wear his clothing. The whole Oprah >Windfrey > > thing is a myth... just like the myth that Proctor and Gamble is a >company > > run by satanists. > > > > -troy > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found >me > > http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks > > "I just don't have the discipline to be a hippie" <- Homer J. Simpson > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me >http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks >"I just don't have the discipline to be a hippie" <- Homer J. Simpson From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 00:17:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8134 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 00:17:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 7887 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 00:17:06 -0000 Received: from sco.sco.com (132.147.128.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 00:17:06 -0000 Received: from novasco.sco.COM(132.147.178.252) via SMTP by sco.sco.COM, id smtpdBAAa007AD; Tue May 18 17:14:22 1999 Received: from lesleymo.sco.com by novasco.sco.com id aa06713; 18 May 99 17:11 PDT Message-ID: <37420192.EE812732@sco.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:10:58 -0700 From: Lesley Mortell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p r CC: dougm@kzsu.stanford.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: questionorbital References: <19990518231916.38679.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'd like to know too - I'm sure when Underworld were finishing the other week - they "hoped we'd give Orbital the same great reception" as we gave them - but I've not heard anything since. Lesley p r wrote: > > hi all, > just curious if Orbital ever played in the bay/when? > Are they gonna play here again in the future? > sites i can get info? > pls private reply. > > peace > > Petros Rotsides > SJSU > "Pan metron ariston" -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Lesley Mortell - DBA, IS, SCO, 150 Dubois, Santa Cruz, CA 95061 Tel 831 429 4531 int - 4531 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 00:17:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8321 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 00:17:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 8160 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 00:17:18 -0000 Received: from sco.sco.com (132.147.128.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 00:17:18 -0000 Received: from novasco.sco.COM(132.147.178.252) via SMTP by sco.sco.COM, id smtpdAAAa007AE; Tue May 18 17:14:22 1999 Received: from lesleymo.sco.com by novasco.sco.com id aa06530; 18 May 99 17:08 PDT Message-ID: <374200EF.D3115FFB@sco.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:08:15 -0700 From: Lesley Mortell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sHaWn ." CC: goodvibe@geocities.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Experience... NEXUS References: <19990518224707.58828.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk and this is what someone I've never met who is on another mailing list said (it was amoungst a discussion as to who does what and boy has this guy expermented).... > * 2-CB - now and then, with MDMA. If the way forward has to be a drug, then > this is it - but not "recreational", more serious / intellectual, a good, > positive antidote to rampant repetitive cosmic sunflower nut-cutlet fluffiness > and bogus mateyness. Music also becomes less "being chucked over a cliff in a > dustbin" and more meaningful somehow. The best thing about it for me is that > the revelations are real and the spirit of the trip stays as a positive > impulse in normal life for some time afterwards. Generally agree with C@ on > this, the Rolls Royce of designer chemicals, wish there was more around ! > Trippy though, so I treat it with caution. sHaWn . wrote: > > My girlfriend's brother's best friend told me it was one of the best "trips" > he had ever had and what the effects of nexus did to him were mind blowing. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 00:34:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21273 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 00:34:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 21163 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 00:33:39 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 00:33:39 -0000 Received: from BlueWAK@aol.com (86) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id jGUNa02685; Tue, 18 May 1999 20:31:05 -0400 (EDT) From: BlueWAK@aol.com Message-ID: <2d2049c1.24736048@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:31:04 EDT Subject: Re: KRR: Over-Protective Parents & Raves To: msoukup@inasec.ca, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 52 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ... is truly unlucky to have parents who aren't as open minded as some people, and who won't listen to *your* take on things. Much empathy dude. It's hard to find the happy medium. You don't want parents to be too "overprotective" and not let you do all the things that you want to do.... BUT you also don't want to have parents that don't care about where you go...what you do..who you're with etc. Being both a parent and a child :-)...I hope to be the kind of parent that is that happy medium. Growing up...my parents were ok with me as long as they knew what I was doing (or at least thought they knew)...but I did my fair share of lying about where I was and who I was with. Lying I wish I wouldn't have had to do, but knew was necessary if I wanted to do them. In high school...I was straight-laced...no drugs no drinking no ANYTHING..so anything I was doing was not THAT bad and I still had to lie. Now being a parent and having been introduced to the rave scene; I hope to be more open minded to whatever my son has to throw at me in the next ten years or so. I KNOW I will be more informed of what is going on and more open minded...so I think it's important to let your kids know that they can come to you with anything. I would MUCH rather have my son be able to tell me where he is going than to lie to me about it....lines of communication are VERY important..ESPECIALLY in the teenage years. For those of you who have this DON'T take it for granted, and for those of you who don't....REMEMBER that for when you yourself are a parent.... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 00:35:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21922 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 00:35:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 21733 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 00:35:01 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 00:35:01 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA04391 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 17:34:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905190034.RAA04391@mail.netwiz.net> To: "San FranDisco Ravers List" Subject: Mackie SRM 450's Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:34:57 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I just got my pair today, and they're COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY AWESOME. Best sounding soundsystem speakers i've ever heard and VERY LOUD. (if you're wondering what i'm talking about, http://www.mackie.com/Products/SRM450.asp) PS: well, they're not really mine, but I get to play with them for a month... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 00:43:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26786 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 00:43:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 26641 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 00:43:17 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 00:43:17 -0000 Received: from BlueWAK@aol.com (86) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 5QEGa29329; Tue, 18 May 1999 20:40:05 -0400 (EDT) From: BlueWAK@aol.com Message-ID: <8a6c6e95.24736265@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:40:05 EDT Subject: Re: PLUR To: 2dope@mailcity.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 52 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Half the stuff these DJ's spin is about what? You must be going to different parties than I am then. I hear very little talking (unless you're listening to an MC); and the talking I do hear is the likes of Titanic and Martin Luther King...and even the MC's aren't spewing out "bootie calls". I'm not trying to come down on you I'm just not seeing the connection.... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 01:03:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7390 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 01:03:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 6980 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 01:02:40 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 01:02:40 -0000 Received: from Kitana3737@aol.com (575) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 5YAJa15660; Tue, 18 May 1999 20:59:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Kitana3737@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:59:17 EDT Subject: Re: not a very nice welcome mat! To: 2dope@mailcity.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/18/99 12:24:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 2dope@mailcity.com writes: << where's the respect?? For example , half the music these guys spin is all about booty!! Where's the respect for women in treating them like pieces of meat >> to: jimmy jones bob. i`ll grant you everything else you said... but WHAT? booty music? i don`t know which parties you`ve been to my dear, but can you tell me specifically WHAT party you were at where they played this "booty music"? what were the lyrics exactly? hehe. i`m interested. personally i think it would be GREAT to hear this rump-shakin crude, women-disrespecting music! :) treat me like a meat tenderizer baby! cus all i am is a big slab of veal. jk. hahaha okay i`m in a weird mood. bye! muchlove, ~*MiCheLLe*~ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 01:06:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9860 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 01:06:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 9647 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 01:06:11 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 01:06:11 -0000 Received: from BlueWAK@aol.com (86) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iFLBa10786; Tue, 18 May 1999 20:55:48 -0400 (EDT) From: BlueWAK@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:55:45 EDT Subject: Re: My First Light; Full of Surprises To: grltroopr@hotmail.com CC: Taiida@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 52 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk A little hard on her don't you think? I didn't see her mentioning anything about not taking E because he told her NOT to...I think it was unchartered territory and until she kinda felt the situation out she didn't want to just tell him about it and him make assumptions without seeing or experiencing it for himself. Having come from the "country" scene before the rave scene, I can tell you that drugs are NOT a big part of that scene..drinking and tobacco yes...drugs...no. And it sounds like she just hadn't mentioned the fact of the "E" to the guy before getting him to go to a party. I also am not sure how old she is, but assuming she is a little younger I think it's also a learning process and not necessarily "a foreshadowing of issues in the future". She'll learn..she's young..and if you wanted to help point out some things that YOU think she could have or should have handled differently...that's fine. But I can tell you that the way you presented it to her is NOT going to do the trick...that will only make her defensive...you might as well be her mom!! If you want to help people...THINK about how you say things. If you don't, then continue on with your way of approaching issues...you're doing just fine. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 01:13:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15240 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 01:13:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 15058 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 01:13:05 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?5kIPqlQgf2tjUGrzIg4yxtL9L+eyjHQw?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 01:13:05 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via ESMTP id SAA24047; Tue, 18 May 1999 18:12:58 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:12:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley Reply-To: Max McCauley To: BlueWAK@aol.com cc: 2dope@mailcity.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: PLUR In-Reply-To: <8a6c6e95.24736265@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU id SAA24047 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 May 1999 BlueWAK@aol.com wrote: > parties than I am then. I hear very little talking (unless you're list= ening=20 > to an MC); and the talking I do hear is the likes of Titanic and Martin= =20 > Luther King...and even the MC's aren't spewing out "bootie calls". I'm= not=20 > trying to come down on you I'm just not seeing the connection.... >=20 I take offense at this. I put a lot of time and energy into creating clever new ways to spew out booty calls, the likes of which you never heard before! Seriously, what is music for...women respond to bass, and men blindly follow women, that is why drum & bass is so important. It is a revolution around the waist-line frequency. On that note, we produly present this evening PHUNCKTION 424 Haight St at Fillmore. THIS IS THE TOP. 10p-2a 21+ $3 dollars with resident Juju, and DJ Noel from Phunckateck lyrics from me, Duh. and tonight special guest--=C1UFO! from Phunckateck, Green, Thermal, etc So come through, for mandatory attitude re-adjustment and flaming Dr Peppers. THAT IS ALL. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 01:32:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5523 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 01:32:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 5412 invoked by uid 233); 19 May 1999 01:32:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 2289 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 20:26:26 -0000 Received: from efi.com (HELO exchange-a4.efi.com) (192.68.228.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 May 1999 20:26:26 -0000 Received: by exchange-a4.efi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2QYKWGLM>; Tue, 18 May 1999 13:26:26 -0700 Message-ID: <5DCA98BE45D6D211ADA600805F65DF152F2710@exchange-a4.efi.com> From: Matt Downer To: "'sfraves@hyperreal.org'" , "'talk@warmth.org'" Subject: NRR: FW: Top 11 Signs that... Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 13:26:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > =============================================================== > T H E T O P F I V E L I S T > Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no > match for a good list at your side, kid. > =============================================================== > > May 17, 1999 > > The Top 11 Signs You've Been Waiting on Line > Too Long for "Star Wars" Tickets > > > > 11 That chick dressed as Princess Leia in front of you now > qualifies as your "longest relationship with a woman." > > 10 Can't resist to urge to "unsheathe your lightsaber," > if you know what I mean. > > 9 Bossman Vader told you to take your Jedi powers to the > planet of unemployment. > > 8 We're bombing who? What the hell is a Kosovo? > > 7 A fellow fan compliments you on your Chewbacca costume, > but you aren't wearing one. > > 6 When a reporter asks you why you're obsessing about a movie > when there's a war in Europe, you express full confidence > in President Reagan's ability to handle the to situation. > > 5 Your Boba Fett lunchbox is worth $.45 more than it was when > you got to the theater. > > 4 The guy next to you is in line for "Episode II." > > 3 Obi-Wan's ghost shows up to spritz you with Lysol. > > 2 The dude in the Wookie suit is starting to look pretty good > to you. > > > and Topfive.com's Number 1 Sign You've Been Waiting > on Line Too Long for "Star Wars" Tickets... > > > 1 Even your most loyal supporters are starting to question > your order to "Just keep bombing Serbia until I get back." > > > > [ This list copyright 1999 by Chris White ] > [ The Top 5 List top5@topfive.com http://www.topfive.com ] > [ Do not forward, publish, broadcast, or use in any manner ] > [ without crediting "The Top 5 List at www.topfive.com" ] > > =============================================================== > > Rumination of the Day > > The haunting fragrance of her mysterious > perfume lingered with me long after the > blinding sting of her pepper spray had faded. > > (Thanks to Nick DeCamp) Rob Downer Technical Support Specialist Project A, Inc. mailto:rob@projecta.com http://www.projecta.com (541) 488-1702 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 01:57:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6784 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 01:56:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 6591 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 01:56:45 -0000 Received: from law-f118.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.181) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 01:56:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 62226 invoked by uid 0); 19 May 1999 01:56:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990519015618.62225.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 170.20.137.132 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 18 May 1999 18:56:18 PDT X-Originating-IP: [170.20.137.132] From: "Alknod !" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: PLUR Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:56:18 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Your shameless dude, thats why I love this list! Only max could turn an opinion into a BSP! hehe. We have to remember, the sarcasm goes real deep here, take much of any of this too seriously and one is ripe for a breakdown! Don't get me wrong, there are some really serious posts at times, but for the most part, one has to simply laugh at it all! hehehehehehehehe. Dj Alex Van Dune <----one happy dude! >From: Max McCauley >Reply-To: Max McCauley >To: BlueWAK@aol.com >CC: 2dope@mailcity.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: PLUR >Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:12:58 -0700 (PDT) > > > >On Tue, 18 May 1999 BlueWAK@aol.com wrote: > > > parties than I am then. I hear very little talking (unless you're >listening > > to an MC); and the talking I do hear is the likes of Titanic and Martin > > Luther King...and even the MC's aren't spewing out "bootie calls". I'm >not > > trying to come down on you I'm just not seeing the connection.... > > > >I take offense at this. I put a lot of time and energy into creating >clever new ways to spew out booty calls, the likes of which you never >heard before! > >Seriously, what is music for...women respond to bass, and men blindly >follow women, that is why drum & bass is so important. It is a >revolution around the waist-line frequency. > >On that note, we produly present this evening >PHUNCKTION > >424 Haight St at Fillmore. THIS IS THE TOP. >10p-2a 21+ $3 dollars >with resident Juju, and DJ Noel from Phunckateck lyrics from me, Duh. >and tonight special guest--ÁUFO! from Phunckateck, Green, Thermal, etc > >So come through, for mandatory attitude re-adjustment and flaming Dr >Peppers. > >THAT IS ALL. > >10-4, >duh, >max > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 03:01:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28657 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 03:01:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 28648 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 03:01:49 -0000 Received: from fletch.fix.net (telkionish@206.190.71.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 03:01:49 -0000 Received: from localhost (telkionish@localhost) by fletch.fix.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA16057; Tue, 18 May 1999 20:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:00:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Adair To: "MooK<><" cc: Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys Subject: RE: the 'rents In-Reply-To: <005801bea18b$733ce7d0$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I agree with most of what you said, but since when has going to a rave mean doing drugs??? I think the most important thing you said was at the very end when you said that my choices might have been good for me, but they arent good for everybody... I dont think you can stress this enough!!! Not every kid that goes to parties is strong enough to withstand temptation... I went to my first party when I was 14 if i recall correctly.. I didnt get to go very many times until i was 18, but I never once touched a drug until much much later.. THe high school i went to was much further overrun with drugs than the parties back then.. If I was gonna get into trouble, a rave wouldnt have gotten me there any faster.. And technically, if I wanted to spend my weekends at home reading scriptures and watching TGIF, I wouldnt have had to lie to my parents... If you can believe it... My parents were never rebellious 13 year olds... my grandparents confirm this.. The probably has quite a bit to do with why parents had NO understanding of my feelings and continued the brain-wash style tactics their parents used on them, and punished me for having unique thoughts... But now I guess I was too honest because now I am not allowed to take my 17-year old sister, who would never touch a drug in her wildest dreams, near a rave.. Even if I promise to have her tucked safely in bed by her midnight curfiew.. Its too bad too, because she is a badass dancer.. I am sorry I sympatise with the kiddos, I just know how bad it feels to be treated like a piece of property, and not like a thinking human being... Very few kids are the monsters that media makes teens out to be... I would hypothesize that the reason you see so many 15-year olds at parties all spun out is because the good kids, who would have a great night dancing to great music, listened to their parents and watched TV friday night... Or maybe they are still good responsible kids who just like to indulge every once in awhile (nowdays i would like to think i fit into this category) and choose to do it at raves, because lets face it -- RAVES ARE A REALLY FUN PLACE TO DO DRUGS--.. anyway... im rambling now.. Greg On Tue, 18 May 1999, MooK<>< wrote: > First of all: > Your parents didn't make you lie, you lied because you wanted to do your own > thing and not obey your parents. You made the choice, they didn't. > Second: > You were not able to make your own decision at the age of 13. You were just > starting to become head strong, and so you believed (as almost every 13 year > old does) that you in your 13 years of life experience knew better than your > parents of their 40+ years of experience, as if they were never a rebelious > 13 year old. > Third: > I would rather party with a responsible 25 year old than a reckless 13 year > old. The 25 year old more than likely has learned their limits, the 13 year > old's body hasn't even fully developed and definately shouldn't be ingesting > mind altering substances. on top of that the 13 year old has a higher chance > of ODing and going to the emergency room. > > I agree that once you move out, it is easier to do what you want without > parental influence. However, I disagree that anyone that is still dealing > with puberty issues has the experience and the maturity to be staying out > all night, experimenting with drugs, in any environment, let alone a rave. > > When I was younger I thought I knew enough to make my own decisions and do > what I wanted. The older I get the more I realize how young and rash I was. > I realize now that I still have a long way to go and I'm almost 23. > > My biggest worry about your post is that it might encourage others to bring > young kids to parties or some internet savy teen to decide that they are old > and mature enough to go to a "rave" and do whatever they feel like, just > because someone other than their parents said it was OK. > > What you chose may have been a good choice for you, but it is by no means an > ok one for eveyone else. > > =) > MooK<>< > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > > Behalf Of Greg Adair > > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 4:23 PM > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Subject: Re: the 'rents > > > > > > This gets about a million times easier once you move out, and am not > > supported by them anymore... My parents are psycho religious, and I wasnt > > buying any of it... But they didnt decide that I was allowed to have my > > own opinions until they realized that I could leave at any time, and they > > couldnt force me to do anything anymore (around the age of 19).. That is > > why I only made it to a few raves back in high school, and all those I had > > to lie about.. They made me lie to them... Now they can't ground me, take > > away my car, or make me go to church, so I tell them anything they ask, as > > casually as if they asked what color shoes I am wearing.. And let me tell > > you, my mom is really careful about what she asks me about nowdays... My > > parents did a good job raising me overall, but I dont think I will do the > > same thing with my kids.. I still feel angry every time I drive by a > > church because my parents didnt realize that I was capable of making my > > own decisions when I was 13 (and I did every time their back turned for a > > second)... Funny thing is, I am currently the only totally > > self-sufficient child they have, and I am not the oldest.. > > > > So your parents wont let you go to a rave... They are afraid that you are > > going to go there and overdose, and end up in the hospital, because you > > dont know how to handle yourself... There are a few people out there that > > will, but I bet the vast majority wont.. Sure I am not one of the many > > old and wize people we have here on the list, but it has been a really > > long time since I was in high school.. But I remember what it was like to > > be 13, 14, 15... And personally I would rather dance my ass off with an > > energetic 13 year old than a judgemental 25 year old.. and if my parents > > werent such Nazi's I would have been at the legendary rave under the yolo > > causeway ('92 i think.. was anybody else from the list there?).. > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 03:41:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17568 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 03:41:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 17559 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 03:41:56 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 03:41:56 -0000 Received: from DNGRBOY9@aol.com (3960) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id dFPSa15953; Tue, 18 May 1999 23:40:06 -0400 (EDT) From: DNGRBOY9@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 23:40:06 EDT Subject: Re: applesauce 5.30.99 To: awallace@u.washington.edu, dj_hak@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This Apple things in SJ? cool From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 03:56:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27241 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 03:56:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 27232 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 03:56:48 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 03:56:48 -0000 Received: from MissNexa@aol.com (7811) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vZTRa09693 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 23:55:40 -0400 (EDT) From: MissNexa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 23:55:40 EDT Subject: NRR - How to Detect a Two-Way Mirror To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 120 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I still get creeped out in dressing rooms, have a nice wednesday everyone!!!! Wish me at least a 2 on my bio test.. Toodles <333 ---> Miss Nexa ps - hey trice, yeah ravers suck, but we do it so well....LOL >:-p HOW TO DETECT A 2-WAY MIRROR When we visit toilets, bathrooms, hotel rooms, changing rooms, etc. How many of you know for sure that the seemingly ordinary mirror hanging on the wall is a real mirror, or actually a 2-way mirror (i.e. they can see you, but you can't see them)? There have been many cases of people installing 2-way mirrors in female changing rooms. It is very difficult to positively identify the surface by just looking at it. It's time to get paranoid. So, how do we determine with any amount of certainty? Just conduct this simple test: Place the tip of your fingernail against the reflective surface and if there is a GAP between your fingernail and the image of the nail, then it is a GENUINE mirror. However, if your fingernail DIRECTLY TOUCHES the image of your nail, then BEWARE, for it is a 2-way mirror! So remember, every time you see a mirror, do the "fingernail test." It doesn't cost you anything. It is simple to do, and it might save you from getting "visually raped!" Share this with your friends. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 04:15:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5384 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 04:15:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 5365 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 04:15:07 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 04:15:07 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com (14448) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vTLSa02681 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 00:14:36 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: <683fabb0.247394ac@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 00:14:36 EDT Subject: Re: KRR: Over-Protective Parents & Raves To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk my parents are so bad hehehe i used to party every weekend. and my parents knew. in fact before i started partying i made sure it was cool with them so i didnt get in trouble. they supported me and everything. my dad even went so far as to drive me in and pick me up at 4 in the morning when the sf praties got out. i think that was so cool. now they have me on a 2 raves a month restriction because i began to get sick after every rave and they attributed it to me overexhausting myself. sure thats part of it but HEY it comes with being a raver eh? well now its to the point where i am sneaking out so i can go to raves. for instance....my parents wont let me sleep over at a gurls house so i can have a little house party....so i tell them im going to VORG and they say "ok thats yer limit for this month." so now i have to sneak out and pretend to go sleep over at my friends house this weekend so i can go to WE GOT THE FUNK........its not fair....*sniff* ok i just realised im rattling on and on...sorry -aaron (orion) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 04:57:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24615 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 04:57:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 24582 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 04:57:05 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 04:57:05 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (8070) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vYUYa15511 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 00:56:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <6fcbd20b.24739e60@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 00:56:00 EDT Subject: BSP: DJ Megatron in the miXXX--90.7KaLx Berkeley To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yes yes yaLL.... u have read the reviews. u have witnessed the extravagansa. now u can own your Very own DJ Megatron for an hour or 2 for the low low price of $00.99!! well not really but yeah i guess this is what u can call my business card. so if any of u super promoters would like to book an incredible up and coming drum and bass dj representing the East Bay then u can email me Private Style. @PROPS@PROPS@PROPS@PROPS@PROPS@PROPS@PROPS@ ***big ups to Groove on Productions, who gave u guys Etheral, they gave me the open door to put my foot in. u guys didnt have to do that for me. there were billions of other djs out there but thanx for givin a brotha a chance....mos def! ***thanx to all the people who loved my set at the party. u guys were tight for staying on the dance floor during the wee hours of the nite. i would name names but i might forget someone so im just gonna say props to everyone i met from sfr. ***much props to the Hit Men DJ Prime in the house that nite and to MC Duh the navigator and also props to Science the mad Chemist at work. ok more OoOoOoOoBSPOoOoOoOo ***Check out DJ Megatron as he goes under his alius DJ SoupRock on radio station KALX Berkeley 90.7fm. this time check it every Thursday Morning from 9am to noon. i will be playin mostly the latest in hip hop and jungle for all u headz out there. so during that traffic jam put the jam on 90.7fm kalx berkeley. ok time to turn on the PSX and get busy on the 1s and 2s and 3s and 4s and etc...there are 10 buttons on that fookin controler....but yeah i have to play my new StreetFighter Alpha 3 and Ehrgeiz....peace yall DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 05:41:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8160 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 05:41:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 8152 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 05:41:15 -0000 Received: from mail9.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 05:41:15 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (98AE4787.ipt.aol.com [152.174.71.135]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA21070 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 22:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37424F4A.38D14794@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:42:34 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: FUNNY SiDE OF LiFE :NRR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 1. Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things. 2. One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor. 3. Atheism is a non-prophet organization. 4. If man evolved from monkeys and apes, why do we still have monkeys and apes? 5. The main reason Santa is so jolly is because he knows where all the bad girls live. 6. I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman, "Where's the self-help section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose. 7. Could it be that all those trick-or-treaters wearing sheets aren't going as ghosts but as mattresses? 8. If a mute swears, does his mother wash his hands with soap? 9. If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him...is he still wrong? 10. If someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill himself, is it considered a hostage situation? 11. Is there another word for synonym? 12. Isn't it a bit unnerving that doctors call what they do "practice?" 13. Where do forest rangers go to "get away from it all?" 14. What do you do when you see an endangered animal eating an endangered plant? 15. If a parsley farmer is sued, can they garnish his wages? 16. Would a fly without wings be called a walk? 17. Why do they lock gas station bathrooms? Are they afraid someone will clean them? 18. If a turtle doesn't have a shell, is he homeless or naked? 19. Why don't sheep shrink when it rains? 20. Can vegetarians eat animal crackers? 21. If the police arrest a mime, do they tell him he has the right to remain silent? 22. Why do they put Braille on the drive-through bank machines? 23. How do blind people know when they are done wiping? 24. How do they get the deer to cross at that yellow road sign? 25. Is it true that cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny? 26. What was the best thing before sliced bread? 27. One nice thing about egotists: they don't talk about other people. 28. To be intoxicated is to feel sophisticated, but not be able to say it. 29. Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. 30. The older you get, the better you realize you were. 31. Age is a very high price to pay for maturity. 32. Procrastination is the art of keeping up with yesterday. 33. Women like silent men, they think they're listening. 34. Men are from Earth, women are from Earth. Deal with it. 35. Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish, and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day. 36. Do pediatricians play miniature golf on Wednesdays? 37. Before they invented drawing boards, what did they go back to? 38. Do infants enjoy infancy as much as adults enjoy adultery? 39. If all the world is a stage, where is the audience sitting? 40. If God dropped acid, would he see people? 41. If one synchronized swimmer drowns, do the rest have to drown too? 42. If the #2 pencil is the most popular, why is it still #2? 43. If work is so terrific, how come they have to pay you to do it? 44. If you ate pasta and antipasta, would you still be hungry? 45. If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done? 46. Why is it called tourist season if we can't shoot at them? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 05:52:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15423 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 05:52:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 15288 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 05:52:14 -0000 Received: from mail-gw5.pacbell.net (206.13.28.23) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 05:52:14 -0000 Received: from pacbell.net (ppp-207-105-89-184.snfc21.pacbell.net [207.105.89.184]) by mail-gw5.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with ESMTP id WAA16805; Tue, 18 May 1999 22:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3742528B.A77D85A8@pacbell.net> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:57:07 -0700 From: dj flux Reply-To: djflux@pacbell.net Organization: b.a.s.s. kru/compound records X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" , sacraves@hyperreal.org, "breaks@xmission.com" Subject: ** BSP: DYLAN/FACS THIS THURSDAY ** Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey, junglistz: In case you haven't heard about it yet, DYLAN and FACS from the UK are going to be touching down at Eklektic this Thursday (5/20/99) for an episode of breakbeat damage. Their stuff is on the darker tip and they'll be rollin out the upfront selection of dubz (they've been at Music House for the past two days). Flux and Rinse with Jamalski will be opening up the night. We're bringing in more bass and there'll be hip hop and downtempo downstairs. Cost is $10 this night only to cover increased expenses--18 and up--78 Minna St in San Francisco!! Presented by Compound Records and Groundscore..... see everyone there! Info: 415-332-5800 exts. 247 or 797 Compound Recs: 415-864-8309 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 06:41:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5118 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 06:41:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 5109 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 06:41:07 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 06:41:07 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id BAA10700; Wed, 19 May 1999 01:40:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca7-196.ix.netcom.com(209.109.235.196) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma010691; Wed May 19 01:40:21 1999 Message-ID: <37425CCE.9C56CE3C@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 23:40:14 -0700 From: Ray Vonie Organization: Feel Good Entertainment X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DjShUbErT@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Im confused References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Cool World Productions is the Original of all the Trailblazing promoters in this scene. Since 1991 CWP has opened up countless opportunities for other promoters to follow. It was CWP that opened up San Francisco, with Permitted all night Events South of Market, Potrero Hill, BayView, and at the Cow Palace. It was CWP that opened up the City of Richmond, with the Permitted all night events at the Richmond Civic Center. It was CWP that opened up the doors to the City of Oakland, with events at the Henry J Kaiser. It was CWP that almost opened up the city of Alameda at the Air Base. And Now CWP has set an unpresident undertaking and opened up the City of San Jose at the fair grounds. CWP Is unquestionable the biggest contributor of value added activity into this scene. And CWP is the top of the food chain when it comes to being truly Original in going were NO other promoter has gone before, and doing it legally. More promoters should learn from their example, and go the extra mile. Keep it mellow, Vlad DjShUbErT@aol.com wrote: > why is it that you cannot get an all night permit in San Jose yet Cool World > is throwing their bash at the Santa Clara County Fairgrounds ? Ive been to a > handful of San Jose events and i can say only one of them went all night and > i dont remember any of them being permitted ..whats the deal? > Peace, Shubert From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 07:02:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17369 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 07:02:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 17340 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 07:02:43 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 07:02:43 -0000 Received: from BryanLee21@aol.com (533) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vWAOa02685 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 03:02:10 -0400 (EDT) From: BryanLee21@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 03:02:10 EDT Subject: My San Diego Review To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, Im back from San Diego and here is a little review of the party LoveBomb I played at. My flight landed around 2:30 and this was when I was able to meet a great house Dj. Apparently we were on the same flight, but I met Jon Williams. He was a very cool dude. The promoter took us straight to the location. Man I must say, this place was PHAT. It was so huge and perfect for a one room location..too bad this was a 2 room. The place was really nice too. Clean Bathrooms, I mean the works. Nice white walls. And it sounded nice in there. It was by far the nicest location I have ever played in My set started around 11:30 and my drummers arrived at 11:45. Its nice of them to always be on time. Well to cut this short, I played a blend of high energy house and progressive trance and the set went well. After me Supa Dj Dimitry (wow what a name...hmph) stepped up and did his usual and then Jon Williams rock the night away. Anyways, I wrote this to let some of you know that san Diego has some great talent. The dj that played before me was Merlyn and he really impressed me along with some of the other locals including Eaze One and Phil-Aye. If any of you SF promoters are lookinf for some good house talent, I would recommend these peeps. Thats all I really have to say about this gig. Next gig is in LA- that would be @ Bigger 99. I'll write next week with the details. Peace Bryan Lee Global Energy Musik From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 07:04:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18886 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 07:04:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 18876 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 07:04:09 -0000 Received: from pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (HELO pimout1-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.58.53) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 07:04:09 -0000 Received: from prodigy.net (SNFCB210-19.splitrock.net [209.156.149.134]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA76714; Wed, 19 May 1999 03:04:03 -0400 Message-ID: <37426193.FE07B5F6@prodigy.net> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 00:00:35 -0700 From: JOELANZON Reply-To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray Vonie CC: DjShUbErT@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Im confused References: <37425CCE.9C56CE3C@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ray Vonie wrote: ......CWP..... at the Cow Palace.... Does anyone remember New Years Eve there? I could swear that FTT had big heaters on in the rafters in there room making it about 110 degrees in there. All I seem to remember was the orange glow from the heaters and the yellow and orange intellibeams, Donald Gluade playing in a hut of some sort ,speakers that looked like rocks, and scantly clad women dancing on top of them. God it was hot in there. One of the funnest times I've had though. 3 BGs and ferris wheel rides at 5am listening to Josh Wink's "Hows the Music" blaring out the speakers. Ahhh... peace- Joe From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 09:17:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28267 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 09:17:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 28168 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 09:16:53 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 09:16:53 -0000 Received: from GIANNI3333@aol.com (14459) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iQIQa15477; Wed, 19 May 1999 05:15:42 -0400 (EDT) From: GIANNI3333@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 05:15:40 EDT Subject: Re: OPEN APOLOGY TO Gianni3333 To: trancebaby@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, ascend@ix.netcom.com, urn@ap.net, zackmaster@ap.net, vitaly@alldigitalclub.com, leslie.ayres@excite.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Raoul Raoul Raoul, Why is it that every time you open your mouth you seem to stick your foot in it? I merely mentioned in private to you that I'm not a resident of Vorg. Case closed. But no you couldn't leave it at that could you. You had to waste everybody's time on this list to make a STUPID comment like that. Raoul your a complete idiot. I've been listening to your NOT SO wise words of wisdom for so long and I'm tired of it. Every time you try to impress this list with your supposed vast knowledge of the dance music industry You stick your foot in your mouth. Where do you get these facts? I have a suggestion Raoul why don't you take some of your hard earned money and go to England for a month and do some research before you mislead any more of the people that actually think you know what your talking about. As for Discovery another point in hand, Discovery is Greg's party you moron. Yes, you do share it with him but it is primarily his thing. As for the booking WRONG again bigmouth Greg booked me, and your pathetic little threat to take me off, Haa.. Well, let's just say that that would be a neat trick considering you had nothing to do with it. I would like to publicly apologize for having to read this but I'm tired of Roaul's WRONG and MISLEADING BIG MOUTH. I would also like to apologize for Roaul because he does not know any better than to waste all of our time. Finally Roaul next time we have a difference of opinion why don't you use some common sense and call me at the store instead of wasting everybody's time and try and cause any more drama than this list already needs. Thanks and take care GIANNI:0) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 09:20:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 783 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 09:20:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 763 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 09:20:09 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 09:20:09 -0000 Received: from Anachra@aol.com (14387) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNIUa19886 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 05:19:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Anachra@aol.com Message-ID: <865db398.2473dc03@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 05:18:59 EDT Subject: Re: OPEN APOLOGY TO Gianni3333 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk great. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 09:34:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6791 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 09:34:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 6773 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 09:34:18 -0000 Received: from sparky.inasec.ca (@207.176.144.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 09:34:18 -0000 Received: from a3a46569 (dnai-216-15-121-72.dialup.dnai.com [216.15.121.72]) by sparky.inasec.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id FAA20946 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 05:34:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by a3a46569 with Microsoft Mail id <01BEA1A2.74E37470@a3a46569>; Wed, 19 May 1999 02:51:13 -0700 Message-ID: <01BEA1A2.74E37470@a3a46569> From: Martin Soukup To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Subject: ? Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 02:51:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Are there any other ravers out there who play folk? Just = wondering....i've only been in the bay area for a little over a week but = I've been raving for a decade, and I'm just wondering if there are more = people into folk here? I mean I am in love with tehno of all sorts, I = spin trance and d&b and produce some stuff too....but does anyone still = pick up a guitar? Me and little pieces of all the people I know. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 13:53:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21640 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 13:53:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 21632 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 13:53:09 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 13:53:09 -0000 Received: from [206.169.228.141] (ghana-141.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.228.141]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA24988; Wed, 19 May 1999 06:52:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 07:15:30 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Wed) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk oooh, here's an old one... Doubt not to reap, if thou cast bear to plough. ---Judith Madan ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 14:25:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14021 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 14:25:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 13992 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 14:25:31 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 14:25:31 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (8067) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id uLGQa02623; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:22:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <8e091807.2474232c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:22:36 EDT Subject: Re: Im confused To: rayvonie@ix.netcom.com, DjShUbErT@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/19/99 2:41:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rayvonie@ix.netcom.com writes: << It was CWP that opened up the City of Richmond, with the Permitted all night events at the Richmond Civic Center. >> ok were gonna have to bring this one back.....RICHMOND IN THE HOUSE....come on promoters...i want to walk to my next rave....pleeeeeeease??????? DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 15:32:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19462 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 15:32:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 19452 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 15:32:54 -0000 Received: from f27.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.38) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 15:32:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 57623 invoked by uid 0); 19 May 1999 15:32:27 -0000 Message-ID: <19990519153227.57622.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 19 May 1999 08:32:27 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: rayvonie@ix.netcom.com, DjShUbErT@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Im confused Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 08:32:27 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk They Can do an event in SJ cause the Fairgrounds does not fall under police jurdistication. It is part of the sherrifs Dept. How you can convince them to do this I don't know? But then again like Vlad points out CWP has been doing this for a long time and they have connections,Money and Lawyers so with a combo like that you can do anything.. There are several lupo's that you can find to do events there has been other all night dance events in SJ that have been permited you just have to know the law or talk to a lawyer or something. I dunno? But what I do know is that it is a lot of work. Peaces, Macadio >From: Ray Vonie >To: DjShUbErT@aol.com >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: Im confused >Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 23:40:14 -0700 > >Cool World Productions is the Original of all the Trailblazing promoters in >this >scene. Since 1991 CWP has opened up countless opportunities for other >promoters to follow. It was CWP that opened up San Francisco, with >Permitted all night Events South of Market, Potrero Hill, BayView, and at >the >Cow Palace. It was CWP that opened up the City of Richmond, with the >Permitted >all night events at the Richmond Civic Center. It was CWP that opened up >the >doors to the City of Oakland, with events at the Henry J Kaiser. It was >CWP >that almost opened up the city of Alameda at the Air Base. And Now CWP >has >set an unpresident undertaking and opened up the City of San Jose at the >fair >grounds. CWP Is unquestionable the biggest contributor of value added >activity into this scene. And CWP is the top of the food chain when it >comes >to being truly Original in going were NO other promoter has gone before, >and >doing it legally. More promoters should learn from their example, and go >the >extra mile. > >Keep it mellow, Vlad > >DjShUbErT@aol.com wrote: > > > why is it that you cannot get an all night permit in San Jose yet Cool >World > > is throwing their bash at the Santa Clara County Fairgrounds ? Ive been >to a > > handful of San Jose events and i can say only one of them went all night >and > > i dont remember any of them being permitted ..whats the deal? > > Peace, Shubert > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 15:37:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21978 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 15:37:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 21969 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 15:37:46 -0000 Received: from ns2.divi.com (HELO kms.divi.com) (199.97.190.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 15:37:46 -0000 Received: from rmarm.divi.com by kms.divi.com (8.8.8/DiviCom-KMS) id IAA28153; Wed, 19 May 1999 08:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990519153712.00b5535c@kms> X-Sender: isaacl@kms X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 08:37:12 -0700 To: Ray Vonie From: Isaac Labugen Subject: Re: Im confused Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It would appear on the surface that CWP is in a league of there very own. I think the massive parties they create are cool, and serve there purpose. Larger scale parties offer us variety and world renown talent that we seldom get to experience. However, to consider CWP the biggest contributor of value to this scene seems a little strange. Especially when you consider most of the venues they have used are no longer available for any one's use. One could argue and claim that this is the fault of the attendees, but when you bring 15,000-20,000 plus people together what do expect is going to happen. There are always going to obviously be a small handful of people that never seem to get it. Such recent examples that come to mind is new years eve of 1997, Henry J kaiser. I'm sure many of us remember this night, and how the all nighter turned into a half nighter. So now CWP has booked the santa clara county fair grounds. To many, I pretty ideal location. I just hope the surrounding neighborhood is prepared for 20,000 plus people. As for originality, I would say that there is a fair amount of ground breaking first with CWP. I never thought that Run DMC would play at a party, and that sounded pretty cool. At the same time, what kind of vibe does this type of party create. Promoting at cinco de mayo festivals was probably not the best place, but that's my own opinion. This is not an attack on CWP or Vlad, just an email for discussion. All of the above are my own views & opinions and not to reflect on anything or any one else. peace, isaac:) At 11:40 PM 5/18/99 -0700, you wrote: >Cool World Productions is the Original of all the Trailblazing promoters in this >scene. Since 1991 CWP has opened up countless opportunities for other >promoters to follow. It was CWP that opened up San Francisco, with >Permitted all night Events South of Market, Potrero Hill, BayView, and at the >Cow Palace. It was CWP that opened up the City of Richmond, with the Permitted >all night events at the Richmond Civic Center. It was CWP that opened up the >doors to the City of Oakland, with events at the Henry J Kaiser. It was CWP >that almost opened up the city of Alameda at the Air Base. And Now CWP has >set an unpresident undertaking and opened up the City of San Jose at the fair >grounds. CWP Is unquestionable the biggest contributor of value added >activity into this scene. And CWP is the top of the food chain when it comes >to being truly Original in going were NO other promoter has gone before, and >doing it legally. More promoters should learn from their example, and go the >extra mile. > >Keep it mellow, Vlad > >DjShUbErT@aol.com wrote: > >> why is it that you cannot get an all night permit in San Jose yet Cool World >> is throwing their bash at the Santa Clara County Fairgrounds ? Ive been to a >> handful of San Jose events and i can say only one of them went all night and >> i dont remember any of them being permitted ..whats the deal? >> Peace, Shubert > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 16:26:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19616 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 16:26:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 19599 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 16:26:25 -0000 Received: from jeter.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 16:26:25 -0000 Received: from godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.42]) by jeter.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id MAA07558; Wed, 19 May 1999 12:16:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA19507; Wed, 19 May 1999 12:16:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:16:47 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu To: Greg Adair cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: the 'rents In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk the biggest problem with parents being over protective is that they are trying to keep you from making the same mistakes they did, but life just doesn't work that way, and poeple don't learn from other's mistakes. i never did. i was lucky to grow up in a wonderful environment where the only pressure ever put on myself to succeed was by me. maybe my parents saw at an early age that i didn't need that kind of supervision (my mom is a psychologist so this could explain some of it) but they did start to take a hold of leash once i got older, to the age where i could drive and was getting into all kinds of new things (or trouble as they probably saw it.) and being the person i am, the first thing i did was tug back as hard as i could and bite. i grew up being such a self sufficient kid so when my parents all of a sudden tried to tell me how to live my life i got angry - and that's probably how a lot of you feel. i see more and more parents these days giving more responisibilities to kids when they are young (not because they don't care, my parents sure care a god damn lot, but because poeple are busy trying to support families and kids need to grow up faster now.) the problem is that once these kids start to reach the teenage years and their innocence is lost in a sense, the parents get scared and try to hold on as tight as they can, fearing the change that will inevitably come, and see their precious child grow up and not need them anymore. talking to my parents, they aren't so different as me. they were the fullblown hippie types when they were younger, my dad even told me of his cross country adventures to waterfalls in the middle of nowehere, trippin the light fantastic. but i bet they made some mistakes along the way, and they didn't want to see me do the same thing. but all i ever wanted was to make those mistakes for myself. being the perfect child sucks! you have no fun, and all the pressure. i don't know what to suggest to those of you going through this right now, expect show to your parents that they can trust you. trust is the only thing that will give you your freedom. it may take a few weeks or months of not staying out late, telling your parents where you are going, calling in to say you are ok if you are running late for your curfew, and soon they will feel that you are ok on your own and won't worry so much, and then that leash that leslie referred to will slowly get longer and longer. everything in our world takes time, good relationships, friendships, success, and trust. sorry this was so long winded, but things do get better with parents. they are great poeple, heck, they made you! without them you would be nothing, so appreciate who they are and the love they give you, and be patient. fighting the leash is not always the best thing to do. much love, amber ps: i'm really glad this thread came about, it's making me appreciate my parents even more than i already do. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 16:29:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21880 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 16:29:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 21869 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 16:29:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 16:29:20 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 45; Wed, 19 May 1999 09:26:26 -0700 Message-ID: <3742E6F4.FC19FD38@hrg.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 09:29:40 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Soukup CC: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Subject: Re: ? References: <01BEA1A2.74E37470@a3a46569> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I play guitar, been playing for years. Not alot of folk, but alot of blues based stuff...some experimental rock and alternative. john r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 16:36:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27897 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 16:36:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 27888 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 16:36:41 -0000 Received: from zahn.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 16:36:41 -0000 Received: from godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.42]) by zahn.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id MAA27348; Wed, 19 May 1999 12:29:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA20311; Wed, 19 May 1999 12:29:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:29:22 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu To: Greg Adair cc: "MooK<><" , Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys Subject: RE: the 'rents In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk greg is very right about some parents just not understanding. i should have said this in my last post, but some parents won't change at all, won't listen to their kids, or let them earn their trust. they see their children as the evil that must be cleansed. ok, maybe not that bad, but some kids are going to have no luck trying to get more freedom from their parents. and what do you do in that situation? the only thing you can do is not do the same thing to your kids. love them, care for them, teach them, but give them the room to grow. much love, amber On Tue, 18 May 1999, Greg Adair wrote: > > I agree with most of what you said, but since when has going to a rave > mean doing drugs??? I think the most important thing you said was at the > very end when you said that my choices might have been good for me, but > they arent good for everybody... I dont think you can stress this > enough!!! Not every kid that goes to parties is strong enough to > withstand temptation... I went to my first party when I was 14 if i recall > correctly.. I didnt get to go very many times until i was 18, but I never > once touched a drug until much much later.. THe high school i went to > was much further overrun with drugs than the parties back then.. If I was > gonna get into trouble, a rave wouldnt have gotten me there any faster.. > And technically, if I wanted to spend my weekends at home reading > scriptures and watching TGIF, I wouldnt have had to lie to my parents... > If you can believe it... My parents were never rebellious 13 year olds... > my grandparents confirm this.. The probably has quite a bit to do with why > parents had NO understanding of my feelings and continued the > brain-wash style tactics their parents used on them, and punished me > for having unique thoughts... > > But now I guess I was too honest because now I am not allowed to take my > 17-year old sister, who would never touch a drug in her wildest dreams, > near a rave.. Even if I promise to have her tucked safely in bed by her > midnight curfiew.. Its too bad too, because she is a badass dancer.. > I am sorry I sympatise with the kiddos, I just know how bad it feels to be > treated like a piece of property, and not like a thinking human being... > Very few kids are the monsters that media makes teens out to be... I > would hypothesize that the reason you see so many 15-year olds at parties > all spun out is because the good kids, who would have a great night > dancing to great music, listened to their parents and watched TV friday > night... > Or maybe they are still good responsible kids who just like to indulge > every once in awhile (nowdays i would like to think i fit into this > category) and choose to do it at raves, because lets face it -- RAVES ARE > A REALLY FUN PLACE TO DO DRUGS--.. > anyway... im rambling now.. > > Greg > > On Tue, 18 May 1999, MooK<>< wrote: > > > First of all: > > Your parents didn't make you lie, you lied because you wanted to do your own > > thing and not obey your parents. You made the choice, they didn't. > > Second: > > You were not able to make your own decision at the age of 13. You were just > > starting to become head strong, and so you believed (as almost every 13 year > > old does) that you in your 13 years of life experience knew better than your > > parents of their 40+ years of experience, as if they were never a rebelious > > 13 year old. > > Third: > > I would rather party with a responsible 25 year old than a reckless 13 year > > old. The 25 year old more than likely has learned their limits, the 13 year > > old's body hasn't even fully developed and definately shouldn't be ingesting > > mind altering substances. on top of that the 13 year old has a higher chance > > of ODing and going to the emergency room. > > > > I agree that once you move out, it is easier to do what you want without > > parental influence. However, I disagree that anyone that is still dealing > > with puberty issues has the experience and the maturity to be staying out > > all night, experimenting with drugs, in any environment, let alone a rave. > > > > When I was younger I thought I knew enough to make my own decisions and do > > what I wanted. The older I get the more I realize how young and rash I was. > > I realize now that I still have a long way to go and I'm almost 23. > > > > My biggest worry about your post is that it might encourage others to bring > > young kids to parties or some internet savy teen to decide that they are old > > and mature enough to go to a "rave" and do whatever they feel like, just > > because someone other than their parents said it was OK. > > > > What you chose may have been a good choice for you, but it is by no means an > > ok one for eveyone else. > > > > =) > > MooK<>< > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > > > Behalf Of Greg Adair > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 4:23 PM > > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > > Subject: Re: the 'rents > > > > > > > > > This gets about a million times easier once you move out, and am not > > > supported by them anymore... My parents are psycho religious, and I wasnt > > > buying any of it... But they didnt decide that I was allowed to have my > > > own opinions until they realized that I could leave at any time, and they > > > couldnt force me to do anything anymore (around the age of 19).. That is > > > why I only made it to a few raves back in high school, and all those I had > > > to lie about.. They made me lie to them... Now they can't ground me, take > > > away my car, or make me go to church, so I tell them anything they ask, as > > > casually as if they asked what color shoes I am wearing.. And let me tell > > > you, my mom is really careful about what she asks me about nowdays... My > > > parents did a good job raising me overall, but I dont think I will do the > > > same thing with my kids.. I still feel angry every time I drive by a > > > church because my parents didnt realize that I was capable of making my > > > own decisions when I was 13 (and I did every time their back turned for a > > > second)... Funny thing is, I am currently the only totally > > > self-sufficient child they have, and I am not the oldest.. > > > > > > So your parents wont let you go to a rave... They are afraid that you are > > > going to go there and overdose, and end up in the hospital, because you > > > dont know how to handle yourself... There are a few people out there that > > > will, but I bet the vast majority wont.. Sure I am not one of the many > > > old and wize people we have here on the list, but it has been a really > > > long time since I was in high school.. But I remember what it was like to > > > be 13, 14, 15... And personally I would rather dance my ass off with an > > > energetic 13 year old than a judgemental 25 year old.. and if my parents > > > werent such Nazi's I would have been at the legendary rave under the yolo > > > causeway ('92 i think.. was anybody else from the list there?).. > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 16:37:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28612 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 16:37:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 28601 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 16:37:14 -0000 Received: from pohl.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 16:37:14 -0000 Received: from godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.42]) by pohl.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id MAA17044; Wed, 19 May 1999 12:32:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA20556; Wed, 19 May 1999 12:32:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:32:50 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu To: Paul*E*Wog cc: SFRaves Subject: Re: FUNNY SiDE OF LiFE :NRR In-Reply-To: <37424F4A.38D14794@geocities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hahaha! my boyfriend and and i were talking about human evolution in the car yesterday and he asked this same thing! 4. If man evolved from monkeys and apes, why do we still have monkeys and apes? random. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 16:42:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1113 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 16:42:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 1085 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 16:42:22 -0000 Received: from dilbert.ucdavis.edu (root@169.237.105.33) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 16:42:22 -0000 Received: from localhost (sschumac@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dilbert.ucdavis.edu (8.9.3/UCD3.13.10) with ESMTP id JAA04821; Wed, 19 May 1999 09:42:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 09:42:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Silvia Schumacher X-Sender: sschumac@dilbert.ucdavis.edu To: MacBunny cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: the 'rents In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > they are great poeple, > heck, they made you! without them you would be nothing, so appreciate > who they are and the love they give you, and be patient. fighting the > leash is not always the best thing to do. Agreement over here... Hey kids out there, RESPECT!!! I repeat RESPECT!!! You should not only give that word a meaning within our nice raving community, but should make it to your main principle of behaviour regarding everything and everybody, especially facing people from who you can learn... LOVE, Silvia From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 17:00:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13903 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 17:00:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 13868 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 17:00:44 -0000 Received: from mail.healthoutcomes.com (HELO marketing.healthoutcomes.com) (209.24.3.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 17:00:44 -0000 Received: from nngo ([209.24.3.172]) by marketing.healthoutcomes.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-58286U100L2S100V35) with SMTP id AAA300; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:09:36 -0700 Message-ID: <000901bea218$efb84ba0$ac0318d1@ssimarkfmt> From: nngo@velos.com (Nick Ngo) To: "MacBunny" , "Paul*E*Wog" Cc: "SFRaves" References: Subject: Re: FUNNY SiDE OF LiFE :NRR Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 09:59:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Actually we did not evolve from monkeys and apes. We evolve from the same family as monkey and apes. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: MacBunny To: Paul*E*Wog Cc: SFRaves Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 9:32 AM Subject: Re: FUNNY SiDE OF LiFE :NRR > hahaha! > > my boyfriend and and i were talking about human evolution in the car > yesterday and he asked this same thing! > > 4. If man evolved from monkeys and apes, why do we still have monkeys > and apes? > > random. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, > is the characteristic of one who knows." > > amber perry-mcquown > > akp2@acpub.duke.edu > amber@earthling.net > amber@marin.cc.ca.us > > http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 17:06:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17209 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 17:06:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 17192 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 17:06:23 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 17:06:23 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (14441) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJHa015308 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 13:05:05 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <49e75726.24744941@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:05:05 EDT Subject: Re: ? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I play bass. Not folk, but love to play any bass line that is funky. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 17:07:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18707 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 17:07:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 18699 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 17:07:48 -0000 Received: from f100.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.219) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 17:07:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 86958 invoked by uid 0); 19 May 1999 17:07:21 -0000 Message-ID: <19990519170721.86957.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.86.40.83 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:07:21 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.86.40.83] From: "becky thorton" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR: starwars? Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:07:21 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Anyone get a chance to see it yet? Tell us what you thought! love n plur becky From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 17:15:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23768 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 17:15:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 23628 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 17:15:34 -0000 Received: from web808.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 17:15:33 -0000 Message-ID: <19990519171852.2369.rocketmail@web808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.60] by web808.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:18:52 PDT Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:18:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: PHUNktion To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You know its really cool to be able to drive to san francisco, just cuz im a dumb ass who leaves my wallet at a hostile the night before, and think.... wow, i wonder if there is any jungle being spun tonight, considering im in the city anyways, for the 80th time this week, oh yeah, of course there is, phunktion is tonight, and since im two seconds away from haight, lets just schmooze on over. I admit I was very tired, but I decided to go to get my mind off, all this finals bs, moving, WORK, stress, and I was in a horrible mood all day (sorry fi) and the only thing that i could think of was hearing beats. Thanks phunktion for providin the perfect atmosphere to soothe the mind, i left around 12, but i had a nice time. :) Jess PS>< and we met the back street boys who have a studio next door! well not really the bsb but they look like them! funny... Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 17:20:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 319 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 17:20:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 297 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 17:20:22 -0000 Received: from web507.yahoomail.com (128.11.68.74) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 17:20:22 -0000 Message-ID: <19990519172044.20773.rocketmail@web507.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.119.128.253] by web507.yahoomail.com; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:20:44 PDT Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:20:44 -0700 (PDT) From: What is a dic-so bunny Subject: NRR: Got comments on MDMA???? To: "Hib Ta Da Hibbidy Hop" "and da Boccoli" Biff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi guys, It's me Sherri….I'd like some help. I'm designing a psych experiment on the effects of 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA) on serotonin levels in the brain. Give me some ideas or theories that you have on the subject please!!! This will help me write up the discussion part of my paper. Please, this is part of my FINAL!!!!!! Please e me back privately with your comments or websites… Thanks in advance!!!! Sherri :) === Fievel and Dinky Little SUCK DONKEY Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 17:33:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9744 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 17:33:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 9559 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 17:33:05 -0000 Received: from sco.sco.com (132.147.128.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 17:33:05 -0000 Received: from novasco.sco.COM(132.147.178.252) via SMTP by sco.sco.COM, id smtpdAAAa000Cz; Wed May 19 10:19:03 1999 Received: from lesleymo.sco.com by novasco.sco.com id aa01318; 19 May 99 10:14 PDT Message-ID: <3742F168.73A7EF24@sco.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:14:16 -0700 From: Lesley Mortell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MissNexa@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR - How to Detect a Two-Way Mirror References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Useless Trivia ...... Theres a club in Milan, Italy (forget the name) which has a 2 way mirror between the ladies and gents bathrooms ...... in favour of the ladies ..... good luck on the test. Lesley MissNexa@aol.com wrote: > > HOW TO DETECT A 2-WAY MIRROR From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 17:35:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11754 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 17:35:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 11683 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 17:35:23 -0000 Received: from web117.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.91) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 17:35:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19990519173652.29086.rocketmail@web117.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web117.yahoomail.com; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:36:52 PDT Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:36:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: ? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I pick up mine from time to time, but then my friends are like "Please don't" or "Put the guitar down and walk away, SLOWLY!" Actually, I'm don't play that well but I know a few chords. =Þ I grew up listening to folk from my brother and all. *HUGZ* pat (Remembering the campfire days) LOVE IS A ROSE -- Neil Young C F C Love is a rose but you better not pick it; G C it only grows when it's on the vine. F C Handful of thorns and you'll know you missed it; G C you lose your love when you say the word "mine". Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 17:49:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25468 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 17:49:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 25456 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 17:49:18 -0000 Received: from f233.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.124) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 17:49:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 37904 invoked by uid 0); 19 May 1999 17:48:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990519174851.37903.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:48:51 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: First Light Thanks all of you!! Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:48:51 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just wanted to send out a message of Thanks, I have been and still am recovering from this past weekend. Damn no one told me that doing a large scale party was so much work. I mean I figured it would be a lot but not as much as it was.. He had a couple of close calls before the doors opened that made the party almost not happen. (I.E Generator being in the wrong location) and not being set to the right voltage. It came together at the last minute and I was happy. I am glad that most of you kept that faith and took a chance on another one of our parties I hope all of you that attended had a good time? I did not have as good of a time cause I did not get to shake my booty except when I was spinning. I want to especially thank the crew that helped out without your guy's help we would not have been able to pull it off. everyone was great and I thank all the staff. Each person played a key part in the party and I don't really want to name names except for a few. Thanks goes out to Michael "disfuntional1" for the Submarine, Shouts and thanks goes out to Steve,Isaac,and crazy KJ for security thanks for having a brotha's back.. Thanks Matt and Kevin for Crowd control. Thanks to the Cutie mermaid that were working door,crowd control etc.. Thanks for the Ladder Mook. There are so many more people that helped with this party but I don't want to take up everyones time with listing it. Thank you all for attending and keeping the faith!! Call the voicemail for updates on future FL parties as well as other events that we will be helping at. Stay tuned for our future party at the end of Summer or early Fall we are not sure of dates at this time but we will keep you all posted. Macadio (FL collective) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 17:51:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26408 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 17:50:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 26398 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 17:50:57 -0000 Received: from web106.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 17:50:57 -0000 Message-ID: <19990519175143.9489.rocketmail@web106.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.71.204.166] by web106.yahoomail.com; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:51:43 PDT Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:51:43 -0700 (PDT) From: PRIME Subject: star wars: episode 1 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Get ready for a six year ride... the movie was fantastic... ILM at its best. === Codename: "PRIME" - adj. of first importance Base(s): Northern California\ Washington, D.C. Style: Atmospherics and Technology-- Hard-banging bliss Team(s): Mechanized Soul, Radio- V.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ HEAR THE MUSIC NOW!!! http://radiov.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 17:52:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29221 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 17:52:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 29211 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 17:52:34 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 17:52:34 -0000 Message-ID: <19990519174556.26412.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.86.220.227] by attach1; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:45:56 PDT Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:45:56 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: Re: PHUNktion To: Jess ica , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yup phunktion's a nice little party. I wanted to drop by last night, but, oh well. Next week for sure. Highly recommended. -Science ---Jess ica wrote: > > You know its really cool to be able to drive to san francisco, just cuz > im a dumb ass who leaves my wallet at a hostile the night before, and > think.... > > wow, i wonder if there is any jungle being spun tonight, considering im > in the city anyways, for the 80th time this week, oh yeah, of course > there is, phunktion is tonight, and since im two seconds away from > haight, lets just schmooze on over. > > I admit I was very tired, but I decided to go to get my mind off, all > this finals bs, moving, WORK, stress, and I was in a horrible mood all > day (sorry fi) and the only thing that i could think of was hearing > beats. Thanks phunktion for providin the perfect atmosphere to soothe > the mind, i left around 12, but i had a nice time. > > :) > > Jess > > PS>< and we met the back street boys who have a studio next door! > well not really the bsb but they look like them! funny... > > > > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 18:13:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11840 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 18:13:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 11657 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 18:13:08 -0000 Received: from table.jps.net (madhav@209.63.224.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 18:13:08 -0000 Received: (from madhav@localhost) by table.jps.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) id LAA15507; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:12:48 -0700 (PDT) From: madhav@table.jps.net Message-Id: <199905191812.LAA15507@table.jps.net> Subject: Re: star wars: episode 1 To: dreamrider2@yahoo.com (PRIME) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <19990519175143.9489.rocketmail@web106.yahoomail.com> from "PRIME" at May 19, 99 10:51:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah, just got out of the theater here! "Ride" is definitely the word that comes to mind when describing this film: Brace yourself for a wild ride! Big ups to ILM and George! -Mo > Get ready for a six year ride... the movie was fantastic... ILM at its best. > > > > === > Codename: "PRIME" - adj. of first importance > Base(s): Northern California\ Washington, D.C. > Style: Atmospherics and Technology-- Hard-banging bliss > Team(s): Mechanized Soul, Radio- V.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > HEAR THE MUSIC NOW!!! http://radiov.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 18:24:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21036 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 18:24:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 21026 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 18:24:12 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 18:24:12 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA08203 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:24:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id SAA09486 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 18:21:17 GMT From: "MooK<><" To: "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" Subject: NRR: Note to Star Wars Reviewers Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:30:05 -0700 Message-ID: <005c01bea225$9d79d6d0$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk If any of you plan on revealing anything about the movie (other than: "It was great!") can you PLEASE either put "spoilers" in the subject, or put a buffer of blank space at the top of the document? I don't want to accidentally find out anything about the movie before I go see it, and I don't want to be responsible for the slow and painful death that might befall anyone responsible for giving away any of the plot. =P Have a HAPPY WEDNESDAY!!! =D MooK<>< From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 18:25:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22825 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 18:25:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 22580 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 18:24:56 -0000 Received: from nytoday.whowhere.com (HELO mc-qout2.whowhere.com) (209.1.236.38) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 18:24:56 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared1-mail.whowhere.com; Wed May 19 11:24:23 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:24:23 -0700 From: "John Doe" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: So what's this "Rave Thing" anyways? X-Sender-Ip: 206.111.131.80 Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail (http://www.eudoramail.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well I just subscribed and want some more info on this rave dealie. Is it all about the electronica? or Drug use? or what? (He, he, hey guys... Im back - See ya @ _MAZE_ on friday) --Anakin "Point-Counterpoint" Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 18:26:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25030 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 18:26:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 25022 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 18:26:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO airlink.com) (199.108.92.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 18:26:46 -0000 Received: from [199.108.92.47] by airlink.com (SMTPD32-3.02) id A314327300C8; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:29:40 -0700 From: "Rick" To: "MooK<><" , "SFRaves" Subject: RE: Note to Star Wars Reviewers Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:21:34 -0700 Message-ID: <000401bea224$6d4f79c0$2f5c6cc7@tatooine.AirLink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 In-Reply-To: <005c01bea225$9d79d6d0$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Didn't you know?! Obi-Wan dies! your jedi bitch, jedi666boy >If any of you plan on revealing anything about the movie (other than: "It >was great!") can you PLEASE either put "spoilers" in the subject, or put a >buffer of blank space at the top of the document? >I don't want to accidentally find out anything about the movie before I go >see it, and I don't want to be responsible for the slow and painful death >that might befall anyone responsible for giving away any of the plot. =P >Have a HAPPY WEDNESDAY!!! =D >MooK<>< From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 18:27:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25843 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 18:27:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 25813 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 18:27:50 -0000 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (140.142.32.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 18:27:50 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id LAA02791; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:27:43 -0700 Message-ID: <00f101bea225$540bc620$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: , "John Doe" Subject: Re: So what's this "Rave Thing" anyways? Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:28:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk LOL... when I first saw John Doe in the 'from' area, I was all excited to be hearing from the DJ himself, but, alas, it is not... Speaking of which, I think he will be playing here in Seattle on Friday, I should go see him... only a few weeks till I get to return to the biggety-biggety Bay. Peace to the 415 from the 206, Alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- ...the unforgettable prestigious reaches manifested by the northwestern region... -=-Hieroglyphics -----Original Message----- From: John Doe To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 11:25 AM Subject: So what's this "Rave Thing" anyways? >Well I just subscribed and want some more info on this rave dealie. >Is it all about the electronica? or Drug use? or what? > > > > > >(He, he, hey guys... Im back - See ya @ _MAZE_ on friday) > > >--Anakin > >"Point-Counterpoint" > > >Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 18:33:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2378 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 18:33:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 2196 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 18:33:16 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 18:33:16 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (BayArea56k434.NetWiz.Net [208.164.208.34]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA04773; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905191833.LAA04773@mail.netwiz.net> To: MacBunny , "San FranDisco Ravers List" Subject: Re: FUNNY SiDE OF LiFE :NRR Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:33:39 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > > my boyfriend and and i were talking about human evolution in the car > yesterday and he asked this same thing! > > 4. If man evolved from monkeys and apes, why do we still have monkeys > and apes? Monkey's and Apes are like a backup file on your computer. In case humans continue to fuck themselves up and kill each other off, or wipe out the planet, there will be a "last known working version" to revert to. Of course, the way we're going, we may have to revert back to cockroach.gene Where's the CVS repository for life?? Someone needs to merge the human branch back to the bonobo monkey branch. Ok, so i've been programming this godforsaken Java groupware application nonstop for a month. I think it's affecting my brain... aaaaghghh! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 19:01:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23815 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 19:01:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 23590 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 19:01:43 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 19:01:43 -0000 Received: from Kibrock@aol.com (3938) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vCMWa29725 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:01:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Kibrock@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:01:01 EDT Subject: jungle-life and bass cru To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok here it is kids..... the radio show you been waiting for all yer life.....even tho i just put this together....i know you heard about it on my radio show, buti never had a date definate for it, so here it goes... saturday june 12th on 90.1 kzsu stanford the living dread show is showcasing both the jungle life crew and the bass cru and we gonna get loco!..werd to that..now letme set it straight cuz people been comin to me sayin that we (jungle-life) are gonna battle bass cru or something...funk that....we all friends and we all just wanna spin on my show and have a good time... so yo, this is your invaitation from me, kaydub, to tune in to 90.1 at about 5pm on june 12th and listen as the JLC and bass cru wreck shop on the living dread show for twostraight hours.......now this is the next thing......i cannot officially invite anyone down to the studios to peep this crazy event...but if you can somehow fithe studio on stanford campus yourself.......there really ain't nothing i can do now is there?????? werd to sfravers...... peace kaydub From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 19:14:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29693 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 19:14:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 29635 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 19:14:16 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 19:14:16 -0000 Message-ID: <19990519190732.10747.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.132.214.155] by attach1; Wed, 19 May 1999 12:07:32 PDT Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:07:32 -0700 (PDT) From: micron Subject: ...some pick up lines for those in need..... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > > > 1. Your name must be Daisy, because I have the incredible > > > urge to plant you right here! > > > 2. Roses are red, violets are blue, I like spaghetti, let's > > > go screw. > > > 3. Just call me milk, I'll do your body good. > > > 4. Your body's name must be visa, because it's everywhere I > > > want to be. > > > 5. Can I buy you a drink, or do you just want the money? > > > 6. I may not be Fred Flintstone, but I bet I can make your > > > Bed Rock. > > > 7. I may not be the best looking guy here, but I'm the only > > > one talking to you. > > > 8. My love for you is like the energizer bunny, it keeps > > > going and going and going.... > > > 9. That shirt looks very becoming on you, but if I were on > > > you, I'd be xxxxx too. > > > 10. Yo Baby, you be my Dairy Queen, I'll be your Burger > > > King, you treat me right, and I'll do it your way right away. > > > 11. I'd like to screw your brains out, but it appears that > > > someone beat me to it. > > > 12. I enjoy doing maintenance, you look like someone I would > > > like to "tinker" around with. > > > 13. You must be from Pearl Harbor, cause baby you're the > > > Bomb - diggity. > > > 14. If you were a new hamburger at McDonald's, you would be > > > McGorgeous. > > > 15. Is that Windex? Because I can see myself in your pants. > > > 16. I'm a bird watcher and I'm looking for a Big Breasted > > > Bed Thrasher, have you seen one? > > > 17. I wish you were a Pony Carousel outside Walmart, so I > > > could ride you all day long for a quarter. > > > 18. Wanna Play House? You be the screen door and I'll slam > > > you all night long. > > > 19. If you're going to regret this in the morning, we can > > > sleep until the afternoon. > > > 20. Oh, I'm sorry, I thought that was a braille name tag. > > > 21. If you were a car, I'd wax you and ride you all over > > > town. > > > 22. Guy: "Would you like to dance?" > > > Girl: "I don't care for this song and surely wouldn't dance with you." > > > Guy: "I'm sorry, you must have misunderstood me, I said > > > you look > > > fat > > > in those pants" > > > 23. Excuse me, do you have your phone number, I seem to have > > > lost mine. > > > 24. I look good on you. > > > 25. I'm new in town, could I have directions to your house. > > > 26. If your left leg was Thanksgiving and your right leg > > > Christmas, can > > > I > > > visit you between the Holidays? > > > 27. You look like a girl that has heard every line in the > > > book, so what's one more going to hurt? > > > 28. Fuck me if I'm wrong, but is your name Yolanda? > > > 29. I love every bone in your body - especially mine. > > > 30. Excuse me, do you wanna fuck, or should I apologize. > > > 31. You might not be the best looking girl here, but beauty > > > is only a light switch away. > > > 32. Do you want to dance, No? Well I guess a fuck is out of > > > the question. > > > 33. Hi, I'm a necrophiliac, how good are you at playing > > > dead? > > > 34. I lost my bed, can I borrow yours? > > > 35. You must be Jamaican, because Jamaican me crazy. > > > 36. My recipe for love is one cup of you, one cup of me, > > > knead till hard, and serve hot. > > > 37. Are your legs tired, because you've been running through > > > my mind all day long. > > > 38. You be the tree, and I'll wrap you like a Koala. > > > 39. Hey baby, I'm like American Express, you don't want to > > > leave home without me. > > > 40. Do you have a quarter? My mother told me to call home > > > when I met the girl of my dreams. > > > 41. The word for the night is legs, let's go back to my room > > > and spread the word. > > > 42. Hey baby, what's your sign? Caution, slippery when wet, > > > dangerous curves ahead, yield? > > > 43. Hi my name is _______, remember it, cause you'll be > > > screaming it all night long. > > > 44. I can't find my puppy, can you help me find him? I think > > > he went into this cheap motel room. > > > 45. Was you dad a farmer? Cause you sure have great melons. > > > 46. Want to play conductor?? You be the engineer and I'll go > > > Choochoo. > > > 47. You must be Jelly, cause jam don't shake like that. > > > 48. The fact that I'm missing my teeth just means that > > > there's more room for your tongue. > > > 49. Guy: "haven't I seen you someplace before?" > > > Girl: "Yes, that's why I don't go there anymore" > > > 50. Hi, my name is Skippy, like the peanut butter I stick to > > > the roof of your mouth. > > > 51. Hi, my name is Pogo, want to jump on my stick? > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 19:16:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2136 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 19:16:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 2126 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 19:16:29 -0000 Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (209.185.123.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 19:16:29 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by angelfire.com; Wed May 19 12:15:46 1999 To: "Jess ica" , sfraves@hyperreal.org, "SCiEnCe" Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:15:46 -0700 From: "Electric Joy Boy" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: on Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: PHUNktion X-Sender-Ip: 206.66.135.218 Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Phunktion would be perfect (initmate, right down the street from me, cheap, The Top serves real drinks not just beer, etc) if it weren't for all the *#$@!# cigarette smoke. Ben -- On Wed, 19 May 1999 10:45:56 SCiEnCe wrote: >Yup phunktion's a nice little party. I wanted to drop by last night, >but, oh well. Next week for sure. Highly recommended. > >-Science > > >---Jess ica wrote: >> >> You know its really cool to be able to drive to san francisco, just >cuz >> im a dumb ass who leaves my wallet at a hostile the night before, and >> think.... >> >> wow, i wonder if there is any jungle being spun tonight, considering >im >> in the city anyways, for the 80th time this week, oh yeah, of course >> there is, phunktion is tonight, and since im two seconds away from >> haight, lets just schmooze on over. >> >> I admit I was very tired, but I decided to go to get my mind off, all >> this finals bs, moving, WORK, stress, and I was in a horrible mood all >> day (sorry fi) and the only thing that i could think of was hearing >> beats. Thanks phunktion for providin the perfect atmosphere to soothe >> the mind, i left around 12, but i had a nice time. >> >> :) >> >> Jess >> >> PS>< and we met the back street boys who have a studio next door! >> well not really the bsb but they look like them! funny... >> >> >> >> Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com >> > > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 19:29:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12053 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 19:29:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 12042 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 19:29:36 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 19:29:36 -0000 Received: from BGChris420@aol.com (8018) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJDUa02577 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:29:02 -0400 (EDT) From: BGChris420@aol.com Message-ID: <9de93f9.24746afe@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:29:02 EDT Subject: Re: KRR: Over-Protective Parents & Raves To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Parents can do that, change their minds whenever they feel like it. It sux doesnt it. Anyways, my parents are the set in their ways closed minded type. My mom mostly. My father is a little more open-minded. They were very strict on me when I was in high school, I couldnt go anywhere, I couldnt do anything. Thats probably why i just started going to raves. Hell my 18th birthday they gave me a curfew of 8 o'clock. Thats pretty bad. What i'm trying to get at here is that parents have that power. They can do just about whatever they want. They can tell you no and they can always change their minds. You cant stop that from happening. Although a lot of the time we all wish we could. But just remember when you have kids of your own you will have that kind of power with your kids. Dont take it for granted and definitly do not over use it or your children will learn to rebel and that will give you a heartache. Anyways, maybe some of you out there do have children. Everybody already knows that the ages of parents these days are a lot younger then they used to be. Dont over use your power as a parent when you become one, or if you're already one. Just remember that the best why a child (teenager) will learn is through their own experiences and trials. I would also like to say that i do love my parents with the deepest respect and i thank them for everything that they have taught me but i just wish that they would get off my back. I guess it'll happen when i move out. Peace ;o), Chris From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 19:41:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17884 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 19:41:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 17859 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 19:41:02 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 19:41:02 -0000 Received: from WWoodliff@aol.com (320) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id uOTWa02589; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:40:14 -0400 (EDT) From: WWoodliff@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:40:14 EDT Subject: Re: Im confused To: rayvonie@ix.netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk PLEASE!!!! The only reason you can say this is that CWP is the only people in the S.F. scene who have done more to exploit the culture then you have. I don't mean for you to take this as a negative attack against you. I have all the respect in the world for what you have been able to accomplish with FGE. But you have exploited the hell out of the seen. You attacked it in a business like matter and have done very well. CWP on the other hand has taken it to a whole other level yes, a whole other level of depravity. They might as well call themselves the Bill Graham Presents of the rave scene. They do not care about the scene they have done very little to nothing to promote what is good and genuine about the scene. They are strictly there for the money. You know this I know this and any body who pays attention should know this. They do not throw Raves they through massive concerts with over 15,000 people looped out of there mind on everything from crystal to LSD. Think about it, Think about how hard it is to control a crowd that big when most of the people are somewhat "sober," and the ones who aren't are mostly adults. Now switch that around, most of the people are anything but sober, on many different types of drugs and they are mostly kids, 12,13,14, year old kids. It is shit like this that makes the public take notice. You call them responsible because they have permits. What they do is anything but responsible. Having that many people partying like that and thinking you have it under control not responsible. Specifically targeting kids 13-17 years old kids is not responsible (sound familiar). I know someone out there is going to cry out "Ohh, but they are helping to further expose the world to the beautiful world of dance music" Complete bullshit!!! All they are doing is taking advantage of what is there and milking it until it is dry. Ask yourself "Do I really think they would be doing this if the money was not there" The answer my friend is No. And the negitve attention they get through news media only makes it harder for the rest of us who do care and are out ther working our asses off. PS Please no one think that I was lumping Vlad or FGE in with my views on CWP. I may not agree with a lot of his promoting practices but until he proves other wise I still would like to believe that he genuinely dose care about SF dance culture and his heart is in the right place. I just don't understand how he could have such a positive view on such a huge blemish to our scene. Much Love; JonPaul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 19:53:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25333 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 19:53:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 25254 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 19:53:55 -0000 Received: from law2-f101.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.101) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 19:53:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 28229 invoked by uid 0); 19 May 1999 19:53:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19990519195328.28228.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.173.42.100 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 19 May 1999 12:53:28 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.173.42.100] From: "Kriss *" To: BGChris420@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: KRR: Over-Protective Parents & Raves Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:53:28 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >I would also like to say that i do love my parents with the deepest respect >and i thank them for everything that they have taught me but i just wish >that >they would get off my back. I guess it'll happen when i move out. hahaha! i'm 29, and my parents are STILL telling me what to do and what not to do! but now they're just words, and i don't have to do what they tell me. i do give them respect and at least listen, though. for some parents, no matter how great you turn out, no matter how successful you are, they think you can be better and feel they need to tell you how on a regular basis. that messed with my head for a long time. now, i try to focus on the fact that i am a good person, a productive member of society, and i live a life i enjoy very much. and if they don't like it, that's their tough luck. i'm not going to live my life for them, i'm living it for me. oops, didn't mean to get on a rant. have a great day everyone! with love, kriss =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 19:54:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26142 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 19:54:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 26117 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 19:54:37 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd85.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.149) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 19:54:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 54624 invoked by uid 0); 19 May 1999 19:57:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19990519195728.54623.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.72.193.76 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 19 May 1999 12:57:28 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.72.193.76] From: "David Ramirez" To: Kibrock@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: jungle-life and bass cru Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:57:28 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk dis gonn be off da hook!!.. so like if we like kinda jus show up there in da studio no would would trip?????..hehe.. i would much rather see dis live den bump it on my stereo at my pad.. david.. ----Original Message Follows---- From: Kibrock@aol.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: jungle-life and bass cru Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:01:01 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 >From sfraves-owner-raver_hp=hotmail.com@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 12:02:16 1999 Received: (qmail 23815 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 19:01:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 23590 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 19:01:43 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 19:01:43 -0000 Received: from Kibrock@aol.com (3938)by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vCMWa29725 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:01:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok here it is kids..... the radio show you been waiting for all yer life.....even tho i just put this together....i know you heard about it on my radio show, buti never had a date definate for it, so here it goes... saturday june 12th on 90.1 kzsu stanford the living dread show is showcasing both the jungle life crew and the bass cru and we gonna get loco!..werd to that..now letme set it straight cuz people been comin to me sayin that we (jungle-life) are gonna battle bass cru or something...funk that....we all friends and we all just wanna spin on my show and have a good time... so yo, this is your invaitation from me, kaydub, to tune in to 90.1 at about 5pm on june 12th and listen as the JLC and bass cru wreck shop on the living dread show for twostraight hours.......now this is the next thing......i cannot officially invite anyone down to the studios to peep this crazy event...but if you can somehow fithe studio on stanford campus yourself.......there really ain't nothing i can do now is there?????? werd to sfravers...... peace kaydub From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 20:00:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 880 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 20:00:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 696 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 20:00:28 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 20:00:28 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-173.dsp.com [204.118.76.173]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA11090; Wed, 19 May 1999 13:00:24 -0700 Message-Id: <199905192000.NAA11090@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:58:39 -0700 To: BGChris420@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: KRR: Over-Protective Parents & Raves In-Reply-To: <9de93f9.24746afe@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I previously posted, privately, a response to Aaron that was basically "You're very lucky and your parents sound really smart as well as caring," and related some of my adolescent horrors with my mom who was both too restrictive and too permissive. BGChris420's response brings up other thoughts: >Hell my 18th birthday they >gave me a curfew of 8 o'clock. Thats pretty bad. > >What i'm trying to get at here is that parents have that power. They can do >just about whatever they want. You cant stop that from happening. You were 18 and had a curfew that you felt you could do nothing about. You were 18. A legal adult. You could do something - be responsible for yourself. You can do that before you're 18, too, legally or just personally. Make you own decisions, then follow up on them. Maybe your parents are seemingly overbearing, but are you really ready to take the controls yourself? Doesn't really sound like it. I became an emancipated minor at a very early age. That means that after I ran away from home, ended up in jail (fake ID, oops), and in the foster care system I fought my way out, legally. I was basically given custody of myself when I reached 18, and until then was on probation. THIS WAS AN EXTREME SITUATION and is not something entered into just because your parents won't let you go out all night. This was an on-paper manifestation of me taking responsibility for myself. Really, tho, the first and best thing to do if you feel like your parents are too strict is to show them that you're not stupid, that there are things you aspire to, that you have something of a plan for doing it, and then by doing it. Along that path they will either give you all kinds of leeway or they will be really lame and miss out on the opportunity of a lifetime. > >Anyways, maybe some of you out there do have children. Everybody already >knows that the ages of parents these days are a lot younger then they used to >be. What? I don't think so. Look back over the history of just the U.S., leaving out Europe, Asia, or wherever else our constituency may hail from, and you'll see that over the past 5 generations the average age of women when birthing their first child was 14 or 15. Our parents (I'm speaking to those in the 21-30 age group here) were, I'm guessing, about 23 when they had us, right? Some were 16, some were 40? Of the parents on the list, some were 16, some were 40? I'd really like to hear a show of hands on this - how old were your parents when you were born? When your eldest sibling was born? >I would also like to say that i do love my parents with the deepest respect >and i thank them for everything that they have taught me but i just wish that >they would get off my back. I guess it'll happen when i move out. One of the sayings my mom always had was "not in *my* house." And that makes a certain amount of sense - your parents do not necessarily need to control you, but they do need to control what happens on their property (liability issues, etc) and have every right, I reckon, to pressure you into leaving the nest with silly things like an 8pm curfew. Fly, be free! If you're ready! But remember, it's not about partying, it' s about paying rent - and doing something with your life. Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 20:01:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2270 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 20:01:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 2231 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 20:01:49 -0000 Received: from cartman.terrazzoworks.com (199.108.92.90) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 20:01:49 -0000 Received: from [199.108.92.73] (seamus4.terrazzoworks.com [199.108.92.73]) by cartman.terrazzoworks.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA23547; Wed, 19 May 1999 13:56:19 -0400 Message-Id: <199905191756.NAA23547@cartman.terrazzoworks.com> Subject: SHIMMER demo ep online Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:03:24 -0800 x-sender: shimmer@pop3.concentric.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: shimmer To: "cl cloudfactory" , "fnf" , "sfraves" , , "dont" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk go to http://www.seamus.net and link to mp3's. you may have to 'save as source' as i haven't added the mime type to the server (my best guess as to what is going on.... does some apache person want to be real nice and send me the line to add to my config?? i probably won't get to it until tonight) enjoy. seamus Seamus Malone mailto:seamus@seamus.net http://www.seamus.net "...nudity brings back light to | There is not one among us in the intimacy of that first house | whom a devil does not dwell. of flesh. It is always nocturnal | At some time on some point, for a certain gaze- which wishes | that devil masters each of us. for clothing in order to see | It is not having been in the that it cannot see everything?" | dark house, but having left | it that counts.'' - Luce Irigaray | - Theodore Roosevelt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 20:05:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5533 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 20:05:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 5475 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 20:04:55 -0000 Received: from web302.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.184) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 20:04:55 -0000 Message-ID: <19990519200637.11000.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.9.148] by web302.yahoomail.com; Wed, 19 May 1999 13:06:37 PDT Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:06:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Gosiewski Subject: NRR* Big Top 23 *(But worth checking) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > > Big Top 23 > at Cyclone Warehouse > > a benefit for Walden House, an established local > drug rehab program. > > What: Big Top 23 > > Where: Cyclone Warehouse, 1842 Illinois Street, San > Francisco > > When: Saturday, May 22 (rain date May 29), 3PM till > 12AM > > Info: 415-647-2449 > > Cost: Daytime $5=ten tickets, Nightime $7 > > In the heart of San Francisco's industrial > wasteland, on the shores > of Islais Creek, rests an unassuming warehouse > enclave. Throughout the years > this territory has proven to be a shining bastion of > hope in the ensuing > culture wars, hosting such spectacles as Cyclecide's > Heavy-Pedal Bicycle > Rodeo, 23-five's International Noise shows, and > numerous Cacophony Society > events, as well as a multitude of bands and > performing artists. This > little Vesuvius is preparing to erupt again in its > third annual Big Top 23 > extravaganza. > > This year's Big Top 23 is a benefit for Walden > House, an established > local drug rehab program. > > The daytime carnival will be outdoors, safe for the > whole family. > Buckle your swashes for the Pirates of PissAnt Boat > Ride, which will be > ferrying unwitting passengers over the questionable > waters of Islais Creek > into a world of buccaneering adventures. Skin your > knees at Cyclecide's > Heavy Pedal Powered Midway of Mayhem, where you can > ride the Bike-o-Whirl, > the Bucking Bike, the Spanking Bike, and more. > Sideshow entertainment by > Doc Molotov's New Millenium Medicine Show with > Emperor Norton's Tent Show > Revival. Plenty of games of chance and skill, > complete with dunk tank and > quality toy prizes. Live music by Graves Brothers > Deluxe and Zmyrzzlina. > Food and drink will be available. > > The night show will be under the warehouse big top, > beginning with a > production called Circus Blasphemous. It's all-star > cast includes members > of aerialists Velocity Circus, The Cantankerous > Lollies, Make-a-Circus, The > Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, Exploding Puppet > Theater, Circus Baraka, > and Circus X, with narration by Rev. Dr. Howlin Owl > and live music by Valley > Fever. Music by Polar Goldie Cats and Centimeters, > and The Extra Action > Marching Band will top off the evening. > > Big Top 23 will be on Saturday, May 22. Daytime > events will begin > at 3PM; a five dollar admission gets you ten tickets > for the attractions. The > night show begins promptly at 9PM and costs $7-with > discounts for tickets > leftover from the daytime. It's in SF at Third and > Marin, one block south of > Caesar Chavez. > > For more info and directions, call (415) 647-2449. Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 20:29:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22211 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 20:29:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 22197 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 20:29:16 -0000 Received: from uhura.concentric.net (206.173.118.93) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 20:29:16 -0000 Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id QAA18865; Wed, 19 May 1999 16:29:01 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from greebish (ts022d30.sjc-ca.concentric.net [206.173.238.90]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id QAA00120; Wed, 19 May 1999 16:29:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990519131150.00ab2da0@post.net> X-Sender: sean@post.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:27:25 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Sean Casey Subject: s/hebang wow wow wow Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk YOU GO!!! The Cloudfactory really pulled one off here. Spectacular, participatory, and beautiful. I have to admit, I really didn't want to go. A fashion show just doesn't sound like my thing. But Cindy talked me into it. When I got there it was great music, colors, wild clothes, artistic dance, and an audience that was totally into it. It was impossible not to smile, impossible not to have a great time. A beautiful art gallery. Free food and drink. Lots of familiar faces. And later, great music (love you Amber (grin)). Great music for the show, Brian. And Lacie, totally just blew me away. I *think* this was my first Cloudfactory party. You bet it won't be my last. I'm gonna go way out of my way if I have to. :) :) :) Sean From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 20:29:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22538 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 20:29:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 22423 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 20:29:29 -0000 Received: from web110.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.80) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 20:29:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990519203048.22460.rocketmail@web110.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.44.186.60] by web110.yahoomail.com; Wed, 19 May 1999 13:30:48 PDT Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:30:48 -0700 (PDT) From: NorthBay Collective Subject: Re: OPEN APOLOGY TO Gianni3333 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: GIANNI3333@aol.com, trancebaby@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey, yes, excuse me a question? WHEN DID WE START LISTING PARTIES DJ's HAVE PLAYED AT TO DRAW A CROWD? I thought Sparkle was a party crew? Just Kidding Guys - lighten up Us in Santa Rosa know whats up with Discovery and Raoul meant well by trying to pull each and every last raver in raverland to Rumors (Santa Rosa's Big Heart City). However just for fun lets incorporate our new marketing method into a mock party lineup. I present my example to why it is lame for people to be affiliated with where they play. Joe Blow Presents: LAME w/ your DJ's Greg Sandler - Harmony, Five Year, Beautiful People, Discovery, VORG (this party should get its own post), Love-A-Fair, S*P*A*R*K*L*E etc. etc. Erik Brown - REBIRTH Logik - NBC, S*P*A*R*K*L*E ), Innercense...... etc. etc. So wait the thought here is - "Wow, If I put parties on the flyer the kids will remember seeing them at that party." Not a bad thought except what if the particular DJ doesn't want to be anywhere near affiliated with the party, what if the promoter of the particular party doesn't appreciate the fact that his party is now being used to market another party. Obviously somebody aspires to a career in marketing/promotions. Careful thought needs to go into how you promote yourself people and most importantly. Consideration of the opinions of those around you. To conclude, How many people do you think actually based their attendance on any of this crap. Let's kiss and make up guys, and Raoul it is my opinion that if you have a problem you dont I REPEAT, DONT discuss it on this mailing list before you have talked face to face with whoever is involved. It is almost a guarantee that it will burn you as you have found out. Discovery is good party and bottom line is all this Drama will probably pull more heads to it. -nick P.S. - Discovery belongs to Harmonics, not exclusively Greg or Raoul. But, I will win the lottery before Raoul cuts Gianni from anything. --- GIANNI3333@aol.com wrote: > Raoul Raoul Raoul, Why is it that every time you > open your mouth you seem to > stick your foot in it? I merely mentioned in private > to you that I'm not a > resident of Vorg. Case closed. But no you couldn't > leave it at that could > you. You had to waste everybody's time on this list > to make a STUPID comment > like that. Raoul your a complete idiot. I've been > listening to your NOT SO > wise words of wisdom for so long and I'm tired of > it. Every time you try to > impress this list with your supposed vast knowledge > of the dance music > industry You stick your foot in your mouth. Where do > you get these facts? I > have a suggestion Raoul why don't you take some of > your hard earned money and > go to England for a month and do some research > before you mislead any more of > the people that actually think you know what your > talking about. > As for Discovery another point in hand, Discovery > is Greg's party you > moron. Yes, you do share it with him but it is > primarily his thing. As for > the booking WRONG again bigmouth Greg booked me, and > your pathetic little > threat to take me off, Haa.. Well, let's just say > that that would be a neat > trick considering you had nothing to do with it. > I would like to publicly apologize for having to > read this but I'm tired > of Roaul's WRONG and MISLEADING BIG MOUTH. I would > also like to apologize for > Roaul because he does not know any better than to > waste all of our time. > Finally Roaul next time we have a difference of > opinion why don't you use > some common sense and call me at the store instead > of wasting everybody's > time and try and cause any more drama than this list > already needs. > > Thanks and take care > GIANNI:0) > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 20:30:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23575 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 20:30:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 23521 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 20:30:08 -0000 Received: from web803.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.63) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 20:30:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990519203601.3852.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.99] by web803.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 19 May 1999 13:36:01 PDT Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:36:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: jungle-life and bass cru To: David Ramirez , Kibrock@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk If I have to pogo ball my way there.... Too bad this was even mentioned so far away from the actual event, now i have to wait almost a month, oh well, somethin to look forward to! Jess --- David Ramirez wrote: > dis gonn be off da hook!!.. so like if we like kinda > jus show up there in da > studio no would would trip?????..hehe.. > david.. > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: Kibrock@aol.com > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: jungle-life and bass cru > Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:01:01 EDT > MIME-Version: 1.0 > From > sfraves-owner-raver_hp=hotmail.com@hyperreal.org Wed > May 19 12:02:16 > 1999 > Received: (qmail 23815 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May > 1999 19:01:51 -0000 > Received: (qmail 23590 invoked from network); 19 May > 1999 19:01:43 -0000 > Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by > taz.hyperreal.org with > SMTP; 19 May 1999 19:01:43 -0000 > Received: from Kibrock@aol.com (3938)by > imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id > vCMWa29725 for ; Wed, 19 May > 1999 15:01:02 -0400 > (EDT) > Message-ID: > X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 > Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org > Precedence: bulk > > > > ok here it is kids..... > > the radio show you been waiting for all yer > life.....even tho i just put > this > together....i know you heard about it on my radio > show, buti never had a > date > definate for it, so here it goes... > > saturday june 12th on 90.1 kzsu stanford the living > dread show is showcasing > both the jungle life crew and the bass cru and we > gonna get loco!..werd to > that..now letme set it straight cuz people been > comin to me sayin that we > (jungle-life) are gonna battle bass cru or > something...funk that....we all > friends and we all just wanna spin on my show and > have a good time... > so yo, this is your invaitation from me, kaydub, to > tune in to 90.1 at about > 5pm on june 12th and listen as the JLC and bass cru > wreck shop on the living > dread show for twostraight hours.......now this is > the next thing......i > cannot officially invite anyone down to the studios > to peep this crazy > event...but if you can somehow fithe studio on > stanford campus > yourself.......there really ain't nothing i can do > now is there?????? > > werd to sfravers...... > > peace > > kaydub > > > > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 20:42:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1228 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 20:42:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 1216 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 20:42:51 -0000 Received: from web214.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.114) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 20:42:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990519204115.22403.rocketmail@web214.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.241.28.1] by web214.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 19 May 1999 13:41:15 PDT Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:41:15 -0700 (PDT) From: C H E P S T E R Reply-To: chep_plur@yahoo.com Subject: List of URL for MP3 sites To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Help! I'm bored at work need some MP3 sites to download. If you want to contribute, just type the url and resubmit. I'm sure everybody will appreciate it. http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/sac/ got some mp3 there Thankyou C H E P === In case I don't see you...... good afternoon.... good evening.... good night.... chep_plur@yahoo.com Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 20:43:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1546 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 20:43:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 1378 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 20:42:57 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 20:42:57 -0000 Received: from WWoodliff@aol.com (320) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vQXMa02742; Wed, 19 May 1999 16:42:17 -0400 (EDT) From: WWoodliff@aol.com Message-ID: <9a6a460e.24747c28@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:42:16 EDT Subject: RE: I'm confused To: sfraves@hyperreal.org CC: tsheets@saturn5.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Is CWP doing any harm to the scene? What about FGE? Do either of these promoters make it more difficult for UG parties to happen? If so, how? First remember I was only referring to CWP in my message I thought I made it very clear at the end. Second Yes, and I thought I explained that as well but here I go again. First off the demographic that they promote to and should expect is manly underaged kids, who will be most likely be taking a lot of drugs. This is what happens at raves all over the world and this is what will be happening there. But remember what a large scale this is on now. Not only do you have flyers, posters, and word of mouth, now we are also evolving major radio and local TV as well as major magazines. So stop and think what kind of publicity they are going to bring when 12 year old Sarah ODs or 15, 16, and 17 year old Johnny Becky and Mike crash on the way home. These are kids and there parents are going to want someone to blame. Yes, I do think CWP should be blamed because they were foolish to think they could control such a large crowed. It has happened before and it will happen again. The problem is that CWP may be held legally and civilly responsible but the SF rave scene takes the brunt of the social implications. Nobdy in the public cares that Cool World had ODs and Stabings at there show . All they know is that this happend at a rave and now there perspective on the rave scene is going to be very negitive. Hell, if that was all I new of our culture I wouldn't think very highly of it either Vlad pointed out that CWP "pioneered and opened up new venues" They can also be held responsible for the closing of venues too. If it wasn't for there illregard to public opinion then the cities would not care one way or the other. Please, don't anyone think that these cities are just being unreasonable. The fact is these cities do not what themselves to be viewed as a city were they let there kids stay out late and OD every Saturday night. And it is the irresponablity of the promoters who through these high profile parties who should be held accountable. Just think for a second, do you want a party like Cool World to be the ambasador for all that is good in the scene. I think not Much love, JonPaul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 20:58:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14323 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 20:58:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 14191 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 20:57:59 -0000 Received: from web104.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 20:57:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19990519205829.6334.rocketmail@web104.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web104.yahoomail.com; Wed, 19 May 1999 13:58:29 PDT Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:58:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: We Got The Funk ??? To: SF Ravers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Who is going to go??? and Do they still have presales left, if so where??? *HUGZ* pat Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 21:11:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23966 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 21:11:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 23947 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 21:11:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aspen.sc-intl.com) (207.218.171.40) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 21:11:33 -0000 Received: by ASPEN with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Wed, 19 May 1999 14:13:55 -0700 Message-ID: <756B30A53DCBD111BABC00A0C981D46372ADB0@ASPEN> From: "Ball, Tera" To: 'Patrick Seaton' , SF Ravers Subject: RE: We Got The Funk ??? Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 14:13:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'M GOING! They must have presales left. Check Solid Grooves! -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Seaton [mailto:montereypat@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 1:58 PM To: SF Ravers Subject: We Got The Funk ??? Who is going to go??? and Do they still have presales left, if so where??? *HUGZ* pat Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 21:38:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15172 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 21:38:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 15144 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 21:38:33 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 21:38:33 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (14434) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3MBBa02574 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:37:44 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <2428b062.24748927@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:37:43 EDT Subject: Re: Im confused (no more!) To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk << They Can do an event in SJ cause the Fairgrounds does not fall under police jurdistication. It is part of the sherrifs Dept. How you can convince them to do this I don't know? But then again like Vlad points out CWP has been doing this for a long time and they have connections,Money and Lawyers so with a combo like that you can do anything.. There are several lupo's that you can find to do events there has been other all night dance events in SJ that have been permited you just have to know the law or talk to a lawyer or something. I dunno? But what I do know is that it is a lot of work. >> But who would want to go to a party that needs all those lawyers and shit to back them up?? Or a party that has *ahem* made enough money to pay off the lawyers or other officials to throw the party. ANyone that leaves a flyer on my car outside of 2nd and jackson gets their flyer torn up and looses my respect... but it's even worse when I get another one on my car at SCHOOL! I like the part about how the flyer says "yadda yadda.. Cyberfest 95,96,98 were all really good.. bsp bsp" but there's no 97 because of all the drama they had in Oakland. I think that sums up how I feel about their parties... very sketch and I wouldn't bother risking my time and money on a production company like theirs. I don't want to stress over whether the talent will actually show up or if the party will even happen. Or other parties associated with their promotion company under *different names* to get people that don't like them tricked into attending one of their events. In any case I won't be there. If I wanted to go to a concert I'd go to one...... hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 21:40:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16639 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 21:40:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 16628 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 21:40:54 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 21:40:54 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (14434) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id lQTDa26942; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:39:15 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <1bc16157.24748982@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:39:14 EDT Subject: Re: ...some pick up lines for those in need..... To: micron1@rocketmail.com CC: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Dan, I think you're the last person I know who needs pick-up lines! =) Isn't there an unwritten law about Djs getting lots of play?? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 21:43:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18628 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 21:43:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 18619 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 21:43:11 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 21:43:11 -0000 Received: from Fine19boy@aol.com (14453) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vMIFa02603 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:42:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Fine19boy@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:42:36 EDT Subject: a way to make peeps smile :) To: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk So I am driving along today spaced out in my own little world when I see a guy who is always sitting on the corner of 5th and Claremont come rain nor shine waving at peeps driving by. He smiles and he waves and he sticks his index and middle finger out in a sign of peace to drivers passin by, all to make peeps smile I got kinda curious and I am sure the fact that i was still high on novacaine from the dentist and still tingly from the nitros the dentist made me enhale (not that i put up much of a fight when they strapped that little mask on) was what made me want to go talk to this guy and find out if he does what he does cause he's real nice or just nuts. I happen to be a great judge on weather peeps are crazy or not cause I am a prime example of how nuts you can get. So I went to speak to the man and ask him q & a. He was real happy to talk to someone and he was all to happy to let me know that the reason he does what he does on the corner of 5th and Claremont everyday come rain nor shine is becasue he can't stand to see peeps driving by looking all sad or mad or serious or lost or what have you, so he smiles. he waves. he makes funny faces. he makes peeps laugh histaricly So I am writing you all today to ask you all to go out and make some peeps that look to sad, or mad, or serious, smile. just do somethin nice for them. give them a compliment or waves or smile or make funny faces Just make at least one someone smile a day and you'll make up for what ever trouble you all caused :) heehee Oh by the way. do any of you know any local insane asylum escapees you would like to give shout outs to? ~T From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 21:50:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26373 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 21:50:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 26158 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 21:50:36 -0000 Received: from hipmail4.gohip.com (209.48.69.238) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 21:50:36 -0000 Received: œby hipmail4.gohip.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with hipmail1.gohip.com id OAA10532; Wed, 19 May 1999 14:50:10 -0700 Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 14:50:10 -0700 Message-Id: <199905192150.OAA10532@hipmail4.gohip.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.103 (Entity 4.115) Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "stephanie bitters" To: SFraves@hyperreal.org Subject: gwen Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thought I'd drop a line concerning a situation that happened early Sunday morning over the weekend....We lost a beautiful, good vibin, sweetie by the name of Gwen in San Diego. This tradegy was the unfortunate consequence of mixing alchohol and the drug GHB. She had so much going for her and her whole lifeahead--she was only 20 years old. I wish all of you who do like the high from mixing alchohol and dangerous drugs were there with me to see Gwen O.D., to experience within a couple of hours the dramatic change from talking and laughing with her to suddenly seeing her pass out and watching her turn pale white, and her lips turn pale blue. To feel her dying fading pulse and her limp body. Then you might think twice about what substances you put into yourself. LIFE IS SHORT AS IT IS, WHY RISKMAKING IT SHORTER? It's really hard for me to talk about this right now since she was a friend I'm going to miss more than words can say, and her lifeless face still flashes in my mind--so I have to make this brief and to the point......... Party responsibly and don't ever party alone, so that if something does happen to go wrong, there will be someone by your side you trust to help you. Yes,to see someone overdosing is a very scary thing, but if you have the ability to possibly save that person, don't ignore it and run the other way- even if you have no idea who they are - because their life could depend on you. If we all try together to take the neccessary precautions when partying, the rising death count will soon decrease. It's all about UNITY people. GHB + ALCHOHOL DON'T MIX! MIX YOURSELF WITH THE MUSIC--and let music be the only drug. May Gwen Rest In Peace. Thanx for listening, ~~Rebecca ------------------------------------------------------------ ONE PLANET.ONE LOVE.ONE GROOVE. Free email http://www.raveworld.net Free E-Mail From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 22:03:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2430 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 22:03:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 2421 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 22:03:15 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 22:03:15 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com (14399) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPSHa03096 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 18:02:13 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: <3ea450e6.24748ee4@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:02:12 EDT Subject: KRR: new "e-zine" website (mine ^_^) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk sorry if this takes up bandwidth <:) i just put up my first web page. it is supposed to be an E zine for my multimedia class but we'll see...... its under heavy construction but about 1/3 of it is up. its a little raver web page so if anyone wants to check it out and give me some feed back on my little FIRST web page it'd be much appreciated. or if u really wanna u can send me some stuf (reviews of parties, art, funny stories, etc.) then u can send it to bytesyze@hotmail.com thanks much! the WEB SIT IS... (dun dun dun) members.xoom.com/raverboi/ (i know i know but i dont have the money to put it up somewhere without a leetle ad) -aaron (orion) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 22:03:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3161 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 22:03:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 3141 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 22:03:55 -0000 Received: from law2-f209.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.209) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 22:03:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 65477 invoked by uid 0); 19 May 1999 22:03:24 -0000 Message-ID: <19990519220324.65476.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.103.171 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:03:24 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.103.171] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: Fine19boy@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: a way to make peeps smile :) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:03:24 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk there's a man like this in my hometown of honolulu, hawaii. it's great! everyday on the way to school, he'd wave. he had a sign he'd hold up, but i forgot what it said. it was something nice though. my mom would always honk and wave at him when she drove by. when she first started to do this, i was like 17 and was really embarrassed. i didn't want my mom to be doing this. i was 17 and wanted to seem cool. but after a while and as i grew older and more mature, i enjoyed that my mom waved back. i'm going back home on friday and i'm actually looking forward to seeing this man standing on the corner waving, and to drive around with my mom, and have her wave back at him. it's little things like this that really make me miss home and miss my mom. i love her! she's the best. she's so crazy and doesn't give a shit if people laugh at her for being so out-going. she's a great person to be around and i want to be like her when i'm a mom. love lia >From: Fine19boy@aol.com >To: Sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: a way to make peeps smile :) >Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:42:36 EDT > >So I am driving along today spaced out in my own little world when I see a >guy who is always sitting on the corner of 5th and Claremont come rain nor >shine waving at peeps driving by. He smiles and he waves and he sticks his >index and middle finger out in a sign of peace to drivers passin by, all to >make peeps smile > I got kinda curious and I am sure the fact that i was still high on >novacaine from the dentist and still tingly from the nitros the dentist >made >me enhale (not that i put up much of a fight when they strapped that little >mask on) was what made me want to go talk to this guy and find out if he >does >what he does cause he's real nice or just nuts. > I happen to be a great judge on weather peeps are crazy or not cause I am >a >prime example of how nuts you can get. > So I went to speak to the man and ask him q & a. He was real happy to >talk >to someone and he was all to happy to let me know that the reason he does >what he does on the corner of 5th and Claremont everyday come rain nor >shine >is becasue he can't stand to see peeps driving by looking all sad or mad or >serious or lost or what have you, so he smiles. he waves. he makes funny >faces. he makes peeps laugh histaricly > So I am writing you all today to ask you all to go out and make some >peeps >that look to sad, or mad, or serious, smile. just do somethin nice for >them. >give them a compliment or waves or smile or make funny faces > Just make at least one someone smile a day and you'll make up for what >ever >trouble you all caused :) heehee > > Oh by the way. do any of you know any local insane asylum escapees you >would >like to give shout outs to? >~T From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 22:06:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4444 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 22:06:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 4436 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 22:06:18 -0000 Received: from law-f63.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.126) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 22:06:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 98815 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 1999 20:49:43 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409204943.98813.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.196.204.189 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 13:49:43 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.196.204.189] From: "michael waldren" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: look for me at Audio Impact!!!! I am the cute one. Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 13:49:43 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey yall, I want to see everyone out at Audio Impact on Saturday. This is the partying i have been waiting for it seems like forever. i am gonna be there early cause i want to miss nothing. i will be wearing a silver visor that reads ACTIVE, with a white collared shirt, a black undershirt. I have will have Big jeans that i usuallay roll up and some bomb ass nikes. If you see me dont be afraid to give me the biggest hug ever. peace to all the jungle heads, and dont forget to support the BASS Kru. "Your everyday junglist" Mikey From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 22:09:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5743 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 22:08:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 5731 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 22:08:57 -0000 Received: from mail10.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.138) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 22:08:57 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (98ABC28D.ipt.aol.com [152.171.194.141]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12091; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:08:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <374336D1.3A63E8A1@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:10:25 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray Vonie CC: DjShUbErT@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Im confused References: <37425CCE.9C56CE3C@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk COOL WORLD sucks! =Paul*E*Wog Ray Vonie wrote: > > Cool World Productions is the Original of all the Trailblazing promoters in this > scene. Since 1991 CWP has opened up countless opportunities for other > promoters to follow. It was CWP that opened up San Francisco, with > Permitted all night Events South of Market, Potrero Hill, BayView, and at the > Cow Palace. It was CWP that opened up the City of Richmond, with the Permitted > all night events at the Richmond Civic Center. It was CWP that opened up the > doors to the City of Oakland, with events at the Henry J Kaiser. It was CWP > that almost opened up the city of Alameda at the Air Base. And Now CWP has > set an unpresident undertaking and opened up the City of San Jose at the fair > grounds. CWP Is unquestionable the biggest contributor of value added > activity into this scene. And CWP is the top of the food chain when it comes > to being truly Original in going were NO other promoter has gone before, and > doing it legally. More promoters should learn from their example, and go the > extra mile. > > Keep it mellow, Vlad > > DjShUbErT@aol.com wrote: > > > why is it that you cannot get an all night permit in San Jose yet Cool World > > is throwing their bash at the Santa Clara County Fairgrounds ? Ive been to a > > handful of San Jose events and i can say only one of them went all night and > > i dont remember any of them being permitted ..whats the deal? > > Peace, Shubert From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 22:09:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6480 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 22:09:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 6465 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 22:09:31 -0000 Received: from f244.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.135) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 22:09:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 50252 invoked by uid 0); 19 May 1999 22:09:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19990519220904.50251.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 153.36.254.210 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:09:04 PDT X-Originating-IP: [153.36.254.210] From: "Natasha 426" To: micron1@rocketmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Pick up lines Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:09:04 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hah this was great! Like #19 lol > > > 19.If you're going to regret this in the morning, we can sleep until the afternoon. and 27 is actually not *that* cheesy...(but still doesn't work;) >>27.You look like a girl that has heard every line in the book, so what's one more going to hurt? But my favorite is my version of #42!! Guy: Hey baybee, what's your sign? Natasha: Negative. :D :D :D :D hee haaa hugs!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 22:18:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11253 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 22:18:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 11241 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 22:18:17 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 22:18:17 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA12876; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905192218.PAA12876@mail.netwiz.net> To: "San FranDisco Ravers List" Cc: groovi-music@netiwz.net Subject: Song ID (from derrick carter realaudio broadcast) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:18:08 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk anybody know what song D.C. is playing beginning around the 49 minute mark and later at the 52 minute mark on http://www.betalounge.com/stuff/dcarter.ram ?? PS: NPM's is RULIN' at work in delightful RealAudio G2 SureStream Stereo @ 96.7Kbps!! Shweeeeet! Thanks to Justice League and Beta Lounge for putting this up. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 22:20:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12699 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 22:20:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 12690 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 22:20:29 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 22:20:29 -0000 Received: from WizardCCCA@aol.com (14373) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id wZBLa02575; Wed, 19 May 1999 18:18:49 -0400 (EDT) From: WizardCCCA@aol.com Message-ID: <4c909aaf.247492c8@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:18:48 EDT Subject: Thought I would share this! To: charlie@safemail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Lot of SF talent in IOWA!!! Anyone interested? Liz Mark Your Calenders, Get off of Work coming Aug. 27th - 29th Subconscious Collective, The Rotation Crew, Flip! , Brothas -n- Sistas & Ultra-Omega present: Forever After a 3-day campout event taking place near Ames, Iowa with performers: Derrick Carter - Red Nail Kidz - Chicago Terrance Parker - Intangible Records - Detroit DRC - Twinsoul Recordings - San Francisco ESP Woody McBride - Communique - Minneapolis Mars - Frequency 8 - San Francisco Myster-E - Frequency 8 - San Francisco Marcellus Booker - San Francisco Astral Matrix - OOBE - San Francisco Dj Funk - Dancemania - Chicago DiscoD - Contaminated - Detroit Freaky Flow w/MC Flipside - Placebo Records - Toronto DJ Spree & Kickin Beats - Kickin Beats/Happy League - Minneapolis Fishhead - Northern Hardcorps - Winnipeg Kid Entropy - Cosmic Breaks - Chicago Centrific - Mile High - Minneapolis Stan Doublin - Kindred Groove - St. Louis Dan Deliverance - Activated - Kansas City/Delaware Nitro - Better Days Rec. - Kansas City Kaoss - Omaha Junglistic Society - Omaha Dj Lee - We're Everywhere - Omaga Dj Alert - Hoodlums - Iowa City Goat - Digital Perceptions - Cedar Rapids Itchy & Scratchy - Rotation Crew - Iowa City Jack the Lad - Subconscious Collective - Ames Josh Barnes - Nodal Rec. - Quad Cities Dj Milton - Freak Mode - Iowa City N.9 - Kansas City Pint Size - All House - Kansas City Reaktor - Subconscious Collective - Ames Tony Markham - Ultra Omega - Kanas City Zach Church - Phul Phunk - Lincoln This event will be based around a medival/fantasy/mythical theme so start planning costumes now! There will be an open medival style market, Jousting! And more fantasy fare to goggle at. Come prepared to leave your reality behind and step into a magical land where fairy tales come true. Lasers & Lights by Light Fantatik. Sound by Professional Sound & Lighting. Prepare for 2 large tents of bass w/ ample camping! Chill Area to relax to Trip-Hop, Ambient and all your favorite down-tempo music (stay tuned for performers TBA). Bands and Hip - Hop acts during the day to relax your soul. More performers TBA. DIY Systems email us to register! Limited Space for them. As well as RVs! Vendors email/call us, spots still available! More info at http://www.angelfire.com/ia/ForeverAfter/ . Email:f_after@hotmail.com Infolines: 800-805-7597 515-239-4685 Love & Light, Jeffz =( Subconscious Collective )= Future Events: Transmissions Every Friday(all ages, email for info) Many random Free parties Forever After, Aug. 27-29 (http://www.angelfire.com/ia/ForeverAfter/) **Admin for Midwest Trance E-Mail list** Join Midwest Trance at http://www.egroups.com/list/Midwest-Trance/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Why are most stock sites so slow and annoying to use? StockMaster.com is fast, easy, powerful, and free! Use company names, not ticker symbols. Track your portfolio. Visit: http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/65 eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/midwest-trance http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 22:29:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18647 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 22:29:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 18634 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 22:29:28 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 22:29:28 -0000 Received: from DjShUbErT@aol.com (3931) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iLMIa02106; Wed, 19 May 1999 18:08:31 -0400 (EDT) From: DjShUbErT@aol.com Message-ID: <16f10277.2474905f@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:08:31 EDT Subject: Re: look for me at Audio Impact!!!! I am the cute one. To: chocolate976@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Audio Impact ?? hmm i thought that party was on april 10th ? am i wrong? Peace , Shubert From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 22:30:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19613 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 22:30:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 19605 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 22:30:50 -0000 Received: from corpmail1.jps.net (209.63.224.250) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 22:30:50 -0000 Received: from kickass (209-239-194-48.oak.jps.net [209.239.194.48]) by corpmail1.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA18774; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:29:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <010801bea247$979e6330$77019665@cuhelp.com> From: "Jay" To: "San FranDisco Ravers List" , "Niels P. Mayer" Cc: References: <199905192218.PAA12876@mail.netwiz.net> Subject: Re: Song ID (from derrick carter realaudio broadcast) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:33:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That would be Mr. Oizo's "Flat Beat" ,as featured in the levi's commericals with "Flat Eric" .... damned funny commercials too, with the puppet banging his head up and down to the beat =) Love & Music, -Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: Niels P. Mayer To: San FranDisco Ravers List Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 3:18 PM Subject: Song ID (from derrick carter realaudio broadcast) > > anybody know what song D.C. is playing beginning around the 49 minute mark > and later at the 52 minute mark on > http://www.betalounge.com/stuff/dcarter.ram ?? > > PS: NPM's is RULIN' at work in delightful RealAudio G2 SureStream Stereo @ > 96.7Kbps!! Shweeeeet! Thanks to Justice League and Beta Lounge for putting > this up. > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << > >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 22:35:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22918 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 22:35:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 22905 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 22:35:52 -0000 Received: from sco.sco.com (132.147.128.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 22:35:52 -0000 Received: from novasco.sco.COM(132.147.178.252) via SMTP by sco.sco.COM, id smtpdKAAa0072D; Wed May 19 15:32:45 1999 Received: from lesleymo.sco.com by novasco.sco.com id aa11842; 19 May 99 12:31 PDT Message-ID: <37431187.C2062A19@sco.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:31:19 -0700 From: Lesley Mortell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves Subject: Rob Gretton RIP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Some of you may be saddened to hear that Rob Gretton died of a heart attack over the weekend, he was 46. Rob was New Orders manager, part-owner of The Hacienda in Manchester, worked with Factory records and starter of Robs Records - Sub Sub, early Mr Scruff, the Pleasure and Blue sister labels. He made a huge contribution to the scene. RIP matey. Lesley From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 22:40:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25829 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 22:40:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 25821 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 22:40:34 -0000 Received: from web1002.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.92) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 22:40:34 -0000 Message-ID: <19990519224033.3616.rocketmail@web1002.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.77.82.103] by web1002.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:40:33 PDT Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:40:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Junglist Mikey Subject: Re: look for me at Audio Impact!!!! I am the cute one. To: DjShUbErT@aol.com, chocolate976@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Jesus, I sent that thing a month and a half ago. I swear to god. I just now received it. That is crazy, look at when the mail ws dated. 4/9. LOL. Mikey --- DjShUbErT@aol.com wrote: > Audio Impact ?? hmm i thought that party was on > april 10th ? am i wrong? > Peace , Shubert > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 22:54:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1983 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 22:54:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 1950 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 22:54:48 -0000 Received: from web804.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 22:54:48 -0000 Message-ID: <19990519230016.3346.rocketmail@web804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.60] by web804.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 19 May 1999 16:00:16 PDT Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:00:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: Pick up lines To: Natasha 426 , micron1@rocketmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk #19 is my fav too!haaaaaaaahhhhhhhaaaaaaa The one about the quarter and mom is kinda cute, ok maybe not! --- Natasha 426 wrote: > Hah this was great! Like #19 lol > > > > > 19.If you're going to regret this in the > morning, we can > sleep until the afternoon. > > > and 27 is actually not *that* cheesy...(but still > doesn't work;) > > >>27.You look like a girl that has heard every line > in the > book, so what's one more going to hurt? > > > But my favorite is my version of #42!! > > Guy: Hey baybee, what's your sign? > Natasha: Negative. > > > :D :D :D :D > > hee haaa > > hugs!! > > > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 23:22:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14869 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 23:22:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 14861 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 23:22:14 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 23:22:14 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (14411) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vFWAa02270 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 19:21:10 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <6c5700f8.2474a165@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 19:21:09 EDT Subject: RE: KRR: Over-Protective Parents & Raves To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hm...well my parents are pretty damn cool. i guess i have what some may call a "raver mom". she used to rave back in the day a bit, so she knows whats goes on, but she trusts me enough to know that i am parting safe and responsibly. whenever she sees things that she thinks would be cool to wear she points it out, and she even drives me around to toys-r-us's to get beads! it's so cute, cuz whenever i sit down and make my bracelets she gets all excited and sits and makes a bunch too! she makes me promise to tell her the next day about the peoeple i give hers too. i have a VERY lose curfew, especially for being so young. i'm supposed to be home at 4am but when i come home at 6(which i usually do), my parents are ok with it. i gotta agree that it is VERY essential to talk to your parents. mine know everything(pretty much) that is going on in my life, so they can see that i am making smart decisions and trust that i will be able to handle any kind of situation by the educated choices i have already made. so if you have lame parents, TALK TO THEM!!! it really does help getting past that "i am the parent and you are the child" BS, so u can get to the "I am myself, an individual, a person, and so are you." hope everyone is having a nice wednesday, my fav day of the week! : ) i'll hopefully see many of your smiling faces at children of the sun on friday. yeeeeaaah!! can't wait!! love, Alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 23:24:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15903 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 23:24:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 15893 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 23:24:51 -0000 Received: from fortune-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO fortune.excite.com) (198.3.99.203) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 23:24:51 -0000 Received: from ants.excite.com ([199.172.152.146]) by fortune.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990519232426.RUX24362.fortune@ants.excite.com> for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 16:24:26 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: a few more tidbits... Message-Id: <927156266.13313.245@excite.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:24:26 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk on the parent thread, some thoughts and wishes ... i think that if you're too young to drive, you're too young to stay out all night. sorry but i do believe that, and unfortunately, if you're that young, you probably don't even have it in you to understand yet. but i guarantee every one who's bitching about how older people don't treat them like an adult will be on here a year or two from now (if you make it that long) talking about how kids shouldn't be at parties. and for those who say "but i'm the exception" ..... maybe... but just by virtue of your saying it, i doubt it. i think that if you live in your parent's home, you have to follow their rules about coming and going, even though it's frustrating. even if your parents are really strict or old-fashioned. that's just how it is. i wish some parents were more willing to let out the "leash" a little bit at a time as a kid earns the right to show their responsibility. i wish there was more on tv about how teenagers think and develop like that show on 20/20 or whatever a month or so ago. they showed how parents need to be more flexible and respectful with their kids as they start testing their wings, and they interviewed creative and interesting kids who, given the freedom to be creative and independent, really were stars. i wish that more parents didn't define success as having their kids turn out just like them... because to me, a person has successfully made it to adulthood when they've turned out as the individual they can be.... with personality, responsibility and something to offer the world. and most of the time i wish parents would get the hell off of their kid's backs about clothing and personal appearance... i personally believe that we should each be able to choose what we wear and how we dress from a very early age, and individuality should be encouraged. whenever i pass those damned talk shows about "my kid lookslike a freak" and they "make them over" ... i start screaming at the tv.... "hey! you look how you want to, leave your kid alone!" because the kids usually look much more interesting than that damned middle-america target and gap look they try to make them into. long live crazy dressers! i love it when i see those little kids who refuse to take off their superman pajamas and cape, or their funny ballet outfits... and their parents are cool with it... i wish more grownups could be that free! i wish that kids didn't think they're the first people to ever do anything.... and had more of a sense of continuity between generations.... like the 15-year-old boy who asked me at a feelgood party "wow, does this seem weird to you?" .... like i got transported there accidentally or something, and the rave scene never existed before he got to a party (probably that night!), and the only people who exist in the scene are also 15. the truth is that your parents were your age once, the rave scene has been around for years, and has its own ancestors, and what you go through in your maturing process is pretty similar in form to what your parents went through... and what your own kids will go through. and i do think that sometimes, kids have to lie to their parents because the parents just can't take the truth. this may sound hypocritical, but it's parents who have closed minds who *sometimes* make this necessary -- though i remember the first time i lied to my mother about where i was going to be all night (i was 15, staying all night at my 21-year-old boyfriend's house, and told her i was at a girlfriends' house) .. i was caught, and i learned that lying is something that is a huge risk. is it really worth it? there are truths that i hid from my mother because i felt she wouldn't understand... not because i would be punished, but because they would have hurt her. i think there's a difference. and i think parents who set an 8 pm curfew for an 18-year-old need to get real, perhaps by talking to other parents and trying to be more in step with our times and culture... because it's hard enough being a kid without being unable to socialize at all! and i know it breaks my heart when i talk to people whose parents aren't capable of showing them the way... for whatever reason, it's such a tragedy, because parents and kids both lose out on one of the greatest loves there is.... but if your parents aren't there for you, probably because they have some problems of their own, and you've done what you can, then maybe you have to realize that sometimes you have to make your own family and find your own way... and you can. and i think that if you really think you're an independent adult capable of responsible decisions, then you should move out, get a full-time job, live in a real apartment, find out what it really takes to pay the bills that are required by life, and prove it. be forwarned though, it may not be as easy as you think! i think people are actually having kids at *much* older ages than in the past.... though my mom was 24 when she had me, and i was 24 when i had my daughter... but i'd lived on my own 8 years already then... and people wait longer now usually.... but time right time to have a kid is whenever it is. no rules about that (though under 20 probably you might not have enough self-knowledge to make that commitment, and over 35 sometimes your body doesn't cooperate the way you wish it would) and.... i think i better get back to work now. ( and for the person who attacked me because i always start sentences with "i" and spout opinions, hope i haven't made you entirely insane with this post!) love, leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 23:27:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16958 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 23:27:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 16935 invoked by uid 233); 19 May 1999 23:27:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 16681 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 05:55:09 -0000 Received: from law2-f179.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.179) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 05:55:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 70623 invoked by uid 0); 19 May 1999 05:54:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990519055442.70622.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.216.188.113 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 18 May 1999 22:54:41 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.216.188.113] From: "Dan and Jennifer Herron" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: the 'rents Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:54:41 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It's funny how as you get older you realize what things you took for granted and how smart you thought you were. At 27 my reality is so different from what was going on in my head at 15. Life is hard, work is hard and I was damn lucky to have a mom like I had. I'm reading these posts about how parents won't let kids go to parties and it makes me think of my mom and her rules. Thank god for them is all I have to say! I'm so happy now that my mom was as strict as she was. I could never stay out all night, I had to be home by 1am, I had to tell her where I was and call her if I was going to be late. Sure I lied and snuck in and forgot to call, but for the most part I was a good kid and listened to her. This is something she's greatful for and tells me often. Ok so you say I was a goodie goodie but you know I lived under her roof, she payed for school, she payed for rent, she payed for my food. I spent my money on junk food, clothes and at that time pot here and there. I should have had shown her some respect and did as she said. We were all each other had and I couldn't risk hurting myself. My mother had an important part in shaping me as all of our parents have. Where would I be now without all of the rules and restiriction and all the love? So now I'm a married adult who does what I want and happens to party with my husband and friends. My mother doesn't know about raves. She knows we go up to the city to dance and that is all. I have adult boundries with my mother for I'm not under her wing anymore. Getting older and wiser can be very eye opening. Jennifer aka Chrysallys P.S Speaking of moms, on the way back from Yosemite with my mother today we listen to two Hard Trance CD's all the way through. Gosh Darnnit if she didn't like it and even hummed along. I'll turn her into a raver yet...Hahaha NO From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 23:32:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19685 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 23:32:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 19618 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 23:32:36 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 23:32:36 -0000 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.9.3/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA22795; Wed, 19 May 1999 16:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:32:32 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-Sender: andy@atari Reply-To: AndyW To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com cc: micron1@rocketmail.com, Sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: ...some pick up lines for those in need..... In-Reply-To: <1bc16157.24748982@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 19 May 1999 TeKnODiVa@aol.com wrote: -&e->Dan, I think you're the last person I know who needs pick-up lines! =) Isn't -&e->there an unwritten law about Djs getting lots of play?? Aw shucks, I get so little play compared to that damn ladykiller Mack-ron. So like, in an effort to get mo' play, I'll be spinning with him this weekend (like tagteaming, for the first time in about 2 years - woohoo!) at the Trance and Jungle party saturday from 1-2:30am. Maybe he'll even give me some pointers on those famous pickups lines of his... >:P >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>viberationrepresentin<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< have a nice day. andyw p.s. and don't forget to download winamp if you haven't done so yet, and tune into technostate.com TONIGHT for LIVE deck action from Ki (cf/technostate) and later AndyW (viberation). Techno-techno-techno! p.p.s. t..e..c..h..n..o... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 23:37:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23319 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 23:37:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 23304 invoked by uid 233); 19 May 1999 23:37:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 22556 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 19:49:35 -0000 Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (209.185.123.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 19:49:35 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by hotbot.com; Wed May 19 12:48:58 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:48:58 -0700 From: "Joaqman" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: just figured out all my fav's R swedes X-Sender-Ip: 206.170.3.101 Organization: HotBot Mail (http://mail.hotbot.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk oh my dog!!!! i just put two and two together and figured out that most of my favorite techy labels are swedish. i knew about drumcode, code red, hybrid & djupl, but i had no idea that gungeligung, dk, corb, planet rhythmn, trainspotters nightmare are all from sweden, and although prime evil is not swedish, they do put out alot of swedish artists. here's a very cool website that is very informative, but i'm sure you techno jocks already know.... http://emil.techno.org/6.html have a drum drummy hi-hat day, joaqman --- 4 out of 5 eddie murphys say, keeeeel my landlord HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 23:38:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24176 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 23:38:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 24157 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 23:38:31 -0000 Received: from shell.tsoft.com (root@198.144.192.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 23:38:31 -0000 Received: from dand.com (hurricane.dand.com [209.133.59.242]) by shell.tsoft.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA28354 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 16:38:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from royal [209.133.59.246] by dand.com (FTGate 2, 1, 2, 1); Wed, 19 May 99 16:23:46 -0700 From: "Joshua Goldberg" To: "SF raves" Subject: NRR Star Wars Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:35:11 -0700 Message-ID: <000101bea250$3d4d1da0$f63b85d1@royal.dand> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0002_01BEA215.90EE45A0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01BEA215.90EE45A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Did anyone out there see the new Star Wars? What did you think? I loved it. But YODA was in it, and anything Yoda is in i love! I think there should be a Star Wars themed party, do you. Let me know Hugs, And Lollipops, Josh ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01BEA215.90EE45A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Did=20 anyone out there see the new Star Wars?  What did you=20 think?
I=20 loved it.  But YODA was in it, and anything Yoda is in i = love!  I=20 think there should be a Star Wars themed party, do you.  Let me=20 know
Hugs,=20 And Lollipops,
Josh
------=_NextPart_000_0002_01BEA215.90EE45A0-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 23:48:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1989 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 23:48:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 1965 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 23:48:10 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 23:48:10 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA31217; Wed, 19 May 1999 16:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905192348.QAA31217@mail.netwiz.net> To: "San FranDisco Ravers List" , groovi-music@netiwz.net Subject: Re: Song ID (from derrick carter realaudio broadcast) In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 19 May 1999 15:18:08 -0700 Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:48:05 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Jay pointed me at this site, which contains the song, now ID'd in full multimedia glory: http://richard-giles.net/flateric/realaudio.htm the videos to the levi's commercial containing this song is: http://richard-giles.net/flateric/realvideo.htm (pretty funny too). =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 19 23:50:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2930 invoked by uid 6000); 19 May 1999 23:50:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 2921 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 23:50:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO osiris.vegasquick.com) (root@209.101.75.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 May 1999 23:50:19 -0000 Received: from seker (seker.socalraves.com [209.101.75.16] (may be forged)) by osiris.vegasquick.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA27098; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:48:31 -0700 From: "Vegas Rick" To: "Joshua Goldberg" , "SF raves" Subject: RE: NRR Star Wars Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:51:10 -0700 Message-ID: <001f01bea252$786a4140$104b65d1@t2000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01BEA217.CC0B6940" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: <000101bea250$3d4d1da0$f63b85d1@royal.dand> Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BEA217.CC0B6940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah, he was in a remake of "North by Northwest" and his acting ability really came out in it. They made him look a lot younger too. --Vegas Rick It takes considerable knowledge just to recognize the extent of your own ignorance. -----Original Message----- From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On Behalf Of Joshua Goldberg Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 4:35 PM To: SF raves Subject: NRR Star Wars Did anyone out there see the new Star Wars? What did you think? I loved it. But YODA was in it, and anything Yoda is in i love! I think there should be a Star Wars themed party, do you. Let me know Hugs, And Lollipops, Josh ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BEA217.CC0B6940 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yeah,=20 he was in a remake of "North by Northwest" and his acting ability really = came=20 out in it.  They made him look a lot younger too.

--Vegas Rick
It takes considerable knowledge just = to=20 recognize the extent of your own ignorance. =

-----Original Message-----
From: = sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org=20 [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On Behalf Of Joshua=20 Goldberg
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 4:35 PM
To: = SF=20 raves
Subject: NRR Star Wars

Did=20 anyone out there see the new Star Wars?  What did you=20 think?
I=20 loved it.  But YODA was in it, and anything Yoda is in i = love!  I=20 think there should be a Star Wars themed party, do you.  Let me=20 know
Hugs, And Lollipops,
Josh
------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BEA217.CC0B6940-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 00:06:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9917 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 00:06:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 9898 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 00:06:44 -0000 Received: from web205.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.105) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 00:06:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990520000909.15128.rocketmail@web205.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [171.133.216.5] by web205.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:09:09 PDT Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:09:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Meotch SFO Subject: dj coffin.... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk can someone please point me in the direction of a retailer (on-line or in the bay area) where i can get a quality dj coffin for my 1200's and a dmj500 mixer - one that fits perfectly is what i'm looking for. how much should this coffin cost? thanks in advance, -meotch Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 00:16:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12449 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 00:16:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 12432 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 00:16:26 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 00:16:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19990520001455.316.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.170.33.62] by web4; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:14:55 PDT Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:14:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Joaqman Subject: parents rule To: Dan and Jennifer Herron , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i agree!!!!! although parents can be overbearing and protective, i'm glad mine cared enough to look after me like they did. that's what's gonna make me a great parent too. biological clock tick tick tick tick... also, who's paying the rent? i think it's the 'rents. also, throw your own parties. they might not go allnite, but you never know. celebrate with friends and make them your family. if you are too young to go out with the "responsible" adults, meet somewhere where there are turntables or a good stereo and pop in that mixtape. also, i don't know what you kids are worried about. i'm not gonna stop partyin until your kids are 15 or so. we're (big old adults) not going anywhere. parties that go till sunrise have been occuring since the dawn of the universe and possibly b4. they are not gonna stop b/c of some silly city ordinance or something like that. there will always be parties. we celebrate life and communion with other people and much much more. the parties will be here when the powers that be say you can stay up allnite. and believe me they will be dope. also, i'm 29 & 1/2 i'm still learning. case in point: i have been going to sunset since i got up here to no. cal, but my friend just hipped me this year to the fact that there are plastic cups for beverage consumption available so as to not attract unnecessary attention from the law enforcement. it takes a long time to develop to live to learn. hold onto your youth, i long for the days of being 17 everytime i come home from a rave/party. i wish i could recover........ short life, dream hard, joaqman ---Dan and Jennifer Herron wrote: > > It's funny how as you get older you realize what things you took for granted > and how smart you thought you were. At 27 my reality is so different from > what was going on in my head at 15. Life is hard, work is hard and I was > damn lucky to have a mom like I had. I'm reading these posts about how > parents won't let kids go to parties and it makes me think of my mom and her > rules. Thank god for them is all I have to say! I'm so happy now that my mom > was as strict as she was. I could never stay out all night, I had to be home > by 1am, I had to tell her where I was and call her if I was going to be > late. Sure I lied and snuck in and forgot to call, but for the most part I > was a good kid and listened to her. This is something she's greatful for and > tells me often. Ok so you say I was a goodie goodie but you know I lived > under her roof, she payed for school, she payed for rent, she payed for my > food. I spent my money on junk food, clothes and at that time pot here and > there. I should have had shown her some respect and did as she said. We were > all each other had and I couldn't risk hurting myself. My mother had an > important part in shaping me as all of our parents have. Where would I be > now without all of the rules and restiriction and all the love? So now I'm a > married adult who does what I want and happens to party with my husband and > friends. My mother doesn't know about raves. She knows we go up to the city > to dance and that is all. I have adult boundries with my mother for I'm not > under her wing anymore. Getting older and wiser can be very eye opening. > Jennifer aka Chrysallys > P.S Speaking of moms, on the way back from Yosemite with my mother today we > listen to two Hard Trance CD's all the way through. Gosh Darnnit if she > didn't like it and even hummed along. I'll turn her into a raver > yet...Hahaha NO > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 00:56:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29045 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 00:56:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 29037 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 00:56:55 -0000 Received: from mail5.sirius.com (205.134.253.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 00:56:55 -0000 Received: from hernancz (ppp-asok04--172.sirius.net [205.134.244.172]) by mail5.sirius.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA04589; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:56:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <029201bea25a$14ed3980$54f586cd@hernancz> Reply-To: "Good Sounds" From: "Good Sounds" To: "diox-list@diox." Cc: "SFraves peeps" Subject: SW pun's Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:45:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Getting in to see The Phantom Menace is a daunting task. First you must fight Star Wars fans to buy a ticket. Then you must battle lines of fans to get inside the movie theater and get a good seat. They ought to call the movie The FAN-DOM Menace. In Star Wars, why did the Evil Empire leave Catholic nuns alone? Force of habit Luke Skywalker was raised on Tatooine by his uncle, OWEN to the fact that Luke's parents weren't around. Obi-Wan Kenobi thought of LUCAS a son to him, by GEORGE. Days passed slowly for Luke Skywalker when he lived on Tatooine, but training under Yoda made the DAGOBAH faster. Darth Sidious's diabolical plan was the result of introspection about the dark side of the force. That is why, when Darth Maul was asked about the plan, he replied, "Insidious." Chewbacca was raised on Earth by human parents. He was an excellent athlete and played baseball for the Los Angeles Dodgers. His first year in the big leagues he batted .300 and was name WOOKIE of the year. Did you know that the princess buys most of her clothes on LEIA-way? Her love interest wears HAN-me-downs. In an attempt to gain control of Alderaan and other planets in the sector, the Evil Emperor offered the planet's leaders some very favorable trade policies. But the leaders saw through the ploy and realized that the Emperor was doing all the right things for ALDERAAN reasons. You can tell if a male creature supports the alliance by the way EWOK. One of the Beverly Hillbillies was part of the Rebel Alliance. When his relatives talked to their patriarch, they would say, "JEDI know you are the boss." Most life forms like hard candy. Wookies like theirs CHEWIE. Young Skywalker was lost on the frozen planet Hoth. Han Solo rescued Luke by keeping him warm inside a dead animal (a Ton Ton). Solo returned Skywalker to the rebel base filthy and foul smelling. Han scowled at the people in the rebel base and gave them a dirty LUKE. Some humanoids think these wea-puns are SOLO. LUKE out! More are to come. Sorry, it is just a JABBA mine. I could have told these puns to anybody, but YODA one I chose. If someone says you aren't, simply reply, "R2." (By Kirk Miller) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 01:14:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5255 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 01:14:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 5243 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 01:14:48 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 01:14:48 -0000 Message-ID: <19990520005743.16633.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.132.214.32] by web1; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:57:43 PDT Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:57:43 -0700 (PDT) From: micron Subject: Re: ...some pick up lines for those in need..... To: AndyW , TeKnODiVa@aol.com Cc: micron1@rocketmail.com, Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk doh....i can't believe you just went there.......... :) micron ---AndyW wrote: > > > On Wed, 19 May 1999 TeKnODiVa@aol.com wrote: > > -&e->Dan, I think you're the last person I know who needs pick-up lines! =) Isn't > -&e->there an unwritten law about Djs getting lots of play?? > > Aw shucks, I get so little play compared to that damn ladykiller Mack-ron. > > So like, in an effort to get mo' play, I'll be spinning with him this > weekend (like tagteaming, for the first time in about 2 years - woohoo!) > at the Trance and Jungle party saturday from 1-2:30am. Maybe he'll even > give me some pointers on those famous pickups lines of his... > > >:P > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>viberationrepresentin<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > have a nice day. > andyw > > p.s. and don't forget to download winamp if you haven't done so yet, and > tune into technostate.com TONIGHT for LIVE deck action from Ki > (cf/technostate) and later AndyW (viberation). Techno-techno-techno! > > p.p.s. t..e..c..h..n..o... > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 01:19:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7016 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 01:19:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 7007 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 01:19:52 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 01:19:52 -0000 Message-ID: <19990520011313.3509.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.132.214.32] by attach1; Wed, 19 May 1999 18:13:13 PDT Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:13:13 -0700 (PDT) From: micron Subject: ...ANDY W vs. MICRON......... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk at the trance and jungle 2 year this saturday...SATURDAY.....SATURDAY..... come see candy andy w. tear the speakers apart and body slam the turntables come see micron do a crowd dive...........naked. okay....well anyways, andy and i will be playing a 2x4 set on saturday from 1-2:30. hope to see u cats there. :) micron From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 01:39:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15000 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 01:39:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 14987 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 01:39:40 -0000 Received: from web136.yahoomail.com (HELO web601.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.12) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 01:39:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19990520014254.6035.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.54.170] by web136.yahoomail.com; Wed, 19 May 1999 18:42:54 PDT Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:42:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Where is Solid Groove again?? To: SF Ravers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I really should write this down on paper. Can someone tell me the address for SG and what the hours it is opened???? PLEASE. :) Thanks in advance. *HUGZ* pat Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 01:42:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16532 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 01:42:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 16499 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 01:42:03 -0000 Received: from web109.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.76) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 01:42:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19990520014230.25814.rocketmail@web109.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.54.170] by web109.yahoomail.com; Wed, 19 May 1999 18:42:30 PDT Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:42:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: Where is Solid Groove again?? (PS:) To: Patrick Seaton , SF Ravers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I thought of this after I sent it. 'We Got The Funk' has the old address *HUGZ* pat Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 01:42:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16679 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 01:42:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 16543 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 01:42:15 -0000 Received: from ns.ultimanet.com (HELO iceberg.ultimanet.com) (205.179.129.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 01:42:15 -0000 Received: from [205.179.129.9] (sprout.ultimanet.com [205.179.129.9]) by iceberg.ultimanet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA32221; Wed, 19 May 1999 18:55:22 -0700 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <1bc16157.24748982@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:45:05 -0700 To: AndyW From: terry estioko Subject: Re: ...some pick up lines for those in need..... Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > TeKnODiVa@aol.com wrote: > >-&e->Dan, I think you're the last person I know who needs pick-up lines! >=) Isn't >-&e->there an unwritten law about Djs getting lots of play?? > >Then AndyW replied: >Aw shucks, I get so little play compared to that damn ladykiller Mack-ron. > > Maybe he'll even >give me some pointers on those famous pickups lines of his... You don't have to wait, I got 'em right here... -------------------------------------------- Top Micron Pick up Lines: 1. Hey there, My name is Micron. 2. Well hello there, I'm Micron. 3. Hi! I'm Micron, would you like to carry my records? 4. Hi there, I'm Micron. 5. Nice shirt, did I mention my name is Micron? 6. Hey, that guy over there is Micron. 7. Oh sorry, didn't know you were in there. By the way my name is Micron. and my all time favorite.... 8. Hi I'm Micron, what I lack in height I make up in girth. -------------------------------------------- sorry, couldn't resist. -terry >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>viberationrepresentin<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@viberation.com http://www.viberation.com/terry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 01:44:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18801 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 01:44:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 18790 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 01:44:08 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 01:44:08 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (14398) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3HIOa02744; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:41:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 21:40:58 EDT Subject: Re: Why Are You A Raver? To: BodhiInSF@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Why I'm a raver by Aryck A rave, (I don't really like calling them this) more like a gathering nowadays, to me, is a huge world filled with magnificent sights, sounds, (um) smells. . . I used to go just for pleasure somewhat. . . go, get messed up (not always my intention), dance, go home. Now it's a little diffirent. A party's a party, it's almost totally in control how "great" the party will be. I mean, you could go to a straight wack part and still have a beautiful time by the people you met, things that happened (whatever, hugs, people saying they love you, etc) . But if you sit there with a bad attitude, you can kind of give off this negative vibe that actually repels people. It takes time to learn little things sometimes. Now I rave I LOVE people, I LOVE music. . . nothing makes me feel sooooo totally great as the look in the face of people who you did something nice for, like when people ask me for water, it's like "here bro, I'll buy you one". I love meeting all the new diverse people, talking to them, learning whatever I can about them in the short time I have. I've made some beeeeeeeyooootiful friends this way. I can have a night where I'll like barely dance, but I'll run around all night meeting like every friendly looking person I see. And that makes my night perfect. I don't try to pick up chicks, though some have come home with me, I'm not a sexually forward type of person and we'd usually end up not really sleeping, just talking from the drive there to thier home the following mornin. So that's not why I go. I meet lots of everybody and I just get a huge amount of satisfaction out of little things like that. . . oooh. . . hugs too, nothing feels better than a great hug. . . it's like that persons energy rubs off on you or something, make a scared person strong and a hurt person happy. . . it's magical. . . so well, cool. . . HUGZ not BUGZ Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 01:44:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19448 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 01:44:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 19436 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 01:44:26 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 01:44:26 -0000 Received: from Tekno313@aol.com (8065) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id lEWUa27309; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:42:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Tekno313@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 21:42:51 EDT Subject: Re: Song ID (from derrick carter realaudio broadcast) To: npm@mail.netwiz.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org CC: groovi-music@netiwz.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/19/99 2:18:26 PM, npm@mail.netwiz.net writes: <> You are so very welcome! jl represent, represent! monty luke justice league sound system http://www.justiceleague.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 01:49:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21629 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 01:49:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 21621 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 01:49:12 -0000 Received: from pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (HELO pimout3-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.59.211) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 01:49:12 -0000 Received: from prodigy.net (SNFCB210-26.splitrock.net [209.156.149.141]) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA66994; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:49:06 -0400 Message-ID: <37436942.CACC01AB@prodigy.net> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:45:38 -0700 From: JOELANZON Reply-To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Meotch SFO CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: dj coffin.... References: <19990520000909.15128.rocketmail@web205.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Coffins can range from $100 to the $450 flight case coffin. When it comes to coffins or any kind of equipement case, you pretty much get what you pay for. They're just about the same price to make as they're sold. One thing right off though is that you should get rack rails for your Pioneer DJM-500. They're like $50 bucks or so. You need those so that it'll fit in a standard 19 inch rack space in most DJ coffins. I wouldn't advise getting one of those specially made coffins that fit the DJM-500 mixer perfect without rails because the foam in those covers the air vents on the sides of the mixer. The Pioneer mixer has had known overheating problems with those covered up. These problems arise from extended periods of use as in club environments where it's hot already, but never the less you shouldn't have those covered anyways. I also have the Pioneer DJM-500. Anyways you can find cases at most any store that carries DJ equipement. Guitar Center usually will have cases/coffins cheap. Sometimes they'll even have used ones for sale. On the web you can try - www.pssl.com They have plenty of coffins as well as the rack rails for the DJM-500. Here is the link for the pioneer website showing the rack rails http://www.pioneer-eur.com/products/multimed/djsounds/prosaccs.htm -peace- Joe Lanzon Meotch SFO wrote: > can someone please point me in the direction of a > retailer (on-line or in the bay area) where i can get > a quality dj coffin for my 1200's and a dmj500 mixer - > one that fits perfectly is what i'm looking for. how > much should this coffin cost? > > thanks in advance, > > -meotch > > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 01:50:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22714 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 01:50:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 22691 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 01:50:21 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 01:50:21 -0000 Message-ID: <19990520013318.726.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.241] by web1; Wed, 19 May 1999 18:33:18 PDT Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:33:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: Re: ...some pick up lines for those in need..... To: terry estioko , AndyW Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Sorry that was one of the funniest post I've ever seen! =)jer === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 ---terry estioko wrote: > > > TeKnODiVa@aol.com wrote: > > > >-&e->Dan, I think you're the last person I know who needs pick-up lines! > >=) Isn't > >-&e->there an unwritten law about Djs getting lots of play?? > > > > >Then AndyW replied: > >Aw shucks, I get so little play compared to that damn ladykiller Mack-ron. > > > > Maybe he'll even > >give me some pointers on those famous pickups lines of his... > > You don't have to wait, I got 'em right here... > -------------------------------------------- > Top Micron Pick up Lines: > > 1. Hey there, My name is Micron. > > 2. Well hello there, I'm Micron. > > 3. Hi! I'm Micron, would you like to carry my records? > > 4. Hi there, I'm Micron. > > 5. Nice shirt, did I mention my name is Micron? > > 6. Hey, that guy over there is Micron. > > 7. Oh sorry, didn't know you were in there. By the > way my name is Micron. > > and my all time favorite.... > > 8. Hi I'm Micron, what I lack in height I make up in girth. > > -------------------------------------------- > > sorry, couldn't resist. > > -terry > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>viberationrepresentin<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > ------------------------------------ > terry estioko | terry@viberation.com > http://www.viberation.com/terry > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 01:52:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23935 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 01:52:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 23927 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 01:52:14 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 01:52:14 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (14398) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3UUDa02623 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:49:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <53e55abb.2474c439@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 21:49:45 EDT Subject: Re: First light... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Actually, I think that the jungle room was pretty wack till the end of the night, it totally sounded like all the speakers were blown until like 3-4 in the morning when suddenlt it sounded almost equal in clarity as the other room (if you care about that) which wasn't loud enough. . . I had a great time though, of course. . . I saw folks from high school, elementary school, and college that I know. . . the main room gets almost un bearably hot, especially if you just came from the back of the other room where you almosrt start to freeze than into the main room where you like hit this damn cloud of hell that steals your breath and makes your skin pour. . . sounds good though. . . I loved it. . . HUGZ you super cool to gosh golly heck tough guy people youz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 02:01:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28325 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 02:01:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 28183 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 02:01:25 -0000 Received: from netcom12.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.124) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 02:01:25 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom12.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id TAA21970; Wed, 19 May 1999 19:01:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 19:01:23 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Re: star wars: episode 1 To: E-Bumpers By the Bay In-Reply-To: <19990519175143.9489.rocketmail@web106.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk word booty. this film kicked ass. if Darth Maul was a dish at Taco Bell, they'd have to call him AssKicker Supreme. when the scrawl started across the screen at the beginning of the film, i actually felt like crying because i was just so excited. i can't wait to see it again! On Wed, 19 May 1999, PRIME wrote: > Get ready for a six year ride... the movie was fantastic... ILM at its best. > > > > === > Codename: "PRIME" - adj. of first importance > Base(s): Northern California\ Washington, D.C. > Style: Atmospherics and Technology-- Hard-banging bliss > Team(s): Mechanized Soul, Radio- V.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > HEAR THE MUSIC NOW!!! http://radiov.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 02:01:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29006 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 02:01:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 28788 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 02:01:44 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 02:01:44 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (14398) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id lSLRa02587; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:59:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 21:59:34 EDT Subject: Re: holy Be-Jeezus!!!!!!! sorry Eric...RedRoom To: jakeloco@rocketmail.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk . . . nevermind. . . good job e. . . HUGZ Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 02:05:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 990 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 02:05:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 940 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 02:05:01 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 02:05:01 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (14398) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3VPVa06834; Wed, 19 May 1999 22:01:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <96685279.2474c70d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 22:01:49 EDT Subject: Re: My First Light; Full of Surprises To: Taiida@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk . . . nevermind. . . again. . . Hugz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 02:06:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2592 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 02:06:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 2576 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 02:06:03 -0000 Received: from darius.concentric.net (207.155.198.79) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 02:06:03 -0000 Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id WAA28184; Wed, 19 May 1999 22:06:01 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from greebish (ts015d37.sto-ca.concentric.net [207.155.177.241]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id WAA00913; Wed, 19 May 1999 22:06:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990519183919.00aaf850@post.net> X-Sender: sean@post.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:46:10 -0700 To: ff-planners@fnf.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Sean Casey Subject: NRR: exploding whales Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Tonight on Worlds Most Amazing Videos, network NBC, 9PST, they're going to run the clip of (possibly) the worlds most stupidly botched demolition attempt: The removal of a very large whale carcass from a beach via dynamite. What was that minimum safe distance again? This is surely available on the web somewhere, but it's best seen at NTSC (TV) resolution. Sean From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 02:12:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5078 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 02:12:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 5061 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 02:12:49 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 02:12:48 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (14398) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rAERa29329; Wed, 19 May 1999 22:11:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 22:10:56 EDT Subject: Re: So what's this "Rave Thing" anyways? To: ana-kin@eudoramail.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk . . . nevermind. . . X10. . . Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 03:02:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25444 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 03:02:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 25436 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 03:02:29 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 03:02:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990520025549.17437.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [208.163.39.25] by attach1; Wed, 19 May 1999 19:55:49 PDT Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 19:55:49 -0700 (PDT) From: cb Subject: NRR--:+:starwars:+: To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hi, its pretty easy to get tickets around san jose/mt view and lots of places have showings every half hour even. The effects and the scenery was amazing! I give them a big 10. All the people and ships and backgrounds and things were VERY cool. The dialogue was a little cheesy at some points (script gets a 4) and the first 2/3 are a little slow, but when you come out of the movie theatre and see the big line waiting for the next show, its like you're getting off a ride at Disneyland =) Overall, i'd give it a B+ wheee! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 03:13:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28261 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 03:13:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 28253 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 03:13:27 -0000 Received: from web1006.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.96) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 03:13:27 -0000 Message-ID: <19990520031326.12517.rocketmail@web1006.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [169.229.92.63] by web1006.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 19 May 1999 20:13:26 PDT Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 20:13:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Carly Bourne Subject: carlybee17 is Carly Bourne To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In case anyone cares... this is my new addy. I can't check my uc berkeley account that often from home... and I have a space limit on the server... so I have a new addy for non-school related stuff. Yay, Carly Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 03:28:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3752 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 03:28:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 3743 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 03:28:16 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 03:28:16 -0000 Received: from Kandehata@aol.com (535) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vMLa019886 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 23:26:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Kandehata@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 23:26:47 EDT Subject: PAGING PHIL(kemical kid) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk phil i need to talk to ya ASAP!!!! if anyone knows how to get ahold of him..or can get ahold of him...PLEEEEZ mail me back...thanks A P.S sorry for the spam!!! =P From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 04:05:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18920 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 04:05:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 18884 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 04:05:02 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 04:05:02 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EA2K7Y3G; Thu, 20 May 1999 00:04:30 EDT To: chocolate976@hotmail.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 21:01:34 -0700 Subject: Re: look for me at Audio Impact!!!! I am the cute one. Message-ID: <19990519.210837.-56255.3.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-5,7-23 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What's going on here? Why didn't I know there was an Audio Impact this weekend? Don't tell me it's 18+... Peace, Theresa On Fri, 09 Apr 1999 13:49:43 PDT "michael waldren" writes: >Hey yall, > >I want to see everyone out at Audio Impact on Saturday. >This is the partying i have been waiting for it seems like forever. >i am gonna be there early cause i want to miss nothing. >i will be wearing a silver visor that reads ACTIVE, >with a white collared shirt, a black undershirt. I have will have Big > >jeans that i usuallay roll up and some bomb ass nikes. If you see me >dont be afraid to give me the biggest hug ever. peace to all the >jungle heads, and dont forget to support the BASS Kru. > >"Your everyday junglist" >Mikey > > Get secure free e-mail that you don't need Web access to use from Juno, the world's second largest online service. Download your free software at http://www.juno.com/getit.b.html. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 04:50:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9557 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 04:50:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 9441 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 04:50:27 -0000 Received: from web135.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 04:50:27 -0000 Message-ID: <19990520045033.27739.rocketmail@web135.yahoomail.com> Received: from [148.233.46.194] by web135.yahoomail.com; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:50:33 PDT Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 21:50:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Juan Pablo Adame Subject: Advice To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello people. My name is Juan Pablo, I am from Mexico and i have been into the Rave scene in Spain for a couple of years. I am visiting Frisco this weekend and i was wondering if you could give me some advice on how to hook up with the rave scene there. Any advice will be much appreciated since this is my first time in the bay area. Ratboy61 Jesus loves you... everybody else thinks you are an asshole. === Juan Pablo Adame Arnedo Ratboy61@yahoo.com Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 04:51:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10579 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 04:51:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 10441 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 04:50:53 -0000 Received: from web1001.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.91) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 04:50:53 -0000 Message-ID: <19990520045003.27664.rocketmail@web1001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.173.232.222] by web1001.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:50:03 PDT Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 21:50:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Brandon Trumble Subject: Introducing "AWAKEN" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi Ravers, My name is brandon, founder of the Pacific United Ravers Kru (PuR) out of San Jose. Our kru is now planning its very first event AWAKEN. But I need your guys help! You see we are having one room of Techno Trance and another room of hard trance. I'm going to try to booking DJ's this weekend. I atempted last weekend to leave a voice mail on the E.T.A. line with my request for Uphonic and Kemical Kidd But they havent gotten back to me and i dont have their actual number. Same goes with Tripnotix I cant even get a strait answer on who he even works for! other than them Im ok and this is what the line up may look like if all goes as planned Techno/Trance: Thomas Trouble, DJ D, Doran, J-Bot Hardcore: Kemical Kidd, Uphonic, Tripnotix and Vertigo. Oh yeah we are also looking for fresh talent to incoorperate into our family, in other words WE NEED RESIDENT DJ's! And well we have a few but they're not ready yet. We are hoping to find someone to take the PuR name and maybe freshen up my friends in there spare time... kind of a tutor :) Well there you have it if you can help I will be most greatful! Thanx Brandon & the PuR kru Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 05:07:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19930 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 05:07:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 19918 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 05:07:47 -0000 Received: from x15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 05:07:47 -0000 Received: (from elias_smith@juno.com) by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EA2PSLL6; Thu, 20 May 1999 01:07:06 EDT To: cloud9nine@rocketmail.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:24:06 -0700 Subject: RE: Starwars - Episode 1 Message-ID: <19990430.082408.-6215.0.Elias_Smith@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-3,10-11,15-16,22,24-28,30-48 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: the town drunk Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk B+? The dialogue is SUPPOSED to be cheesy!! Remember the other 3 movies? And I would agree the first 2/3 is slow, but so was Empire. They have to develop the story. The cut scenes, dialogue, characters, one liners and everything was CLASSIC Star Wars. There were of course several disappointing aspects of the whole film, which I won't mention because they are spoilers, but after more peeps see it, I'm sure they will be brought up. I can mention one though. I would trade all 250 of those damn Ewoks for that one annoying as hell Jar Jar!! "Me'sa want to kill you Jar Jar!" You fucking annoying bastard. If Darth Maul, Qui-Gon, and the Queen weren't as good of characters as they were, Jar Jar could have blown the whole movie because he sucked all kinds of bad. In fact, Jar Jar's whole race of bubbling idiots bugged me! Especially his boss. Darth was pure evil, Qui-Gon held the whole movie together, and the Queen is my new Hollywood crush. What the heck is the actresses name? Natalie Portman? She's hot. The bad droids (forgot their name) kicked ass! And my definite fav part of the movie was R2-D2's entrance to the movie. And it was done very subtle too. I don't think I have screamed like that since I though Bill Clinton was getting impeached! And of course the Pod Race and the light-saber duel we're fuckin' rad. The light-saber duel was how it should be done! Episode 1 deserved all the hype it got. I didn't expect anything more. -g On Wed, 19 May 1999 19:55:49 -0700 (PDT) cb writes: >hi, > >its pretty easy to get tickets around san jose/mt view and lots of >places have showings every half hour even. > >The effects and the scenery was amazing! I give them a big 10. All >the >people and ships and backgrounds and things were VERY cool. The >dialogue was a little cheesy at some points (script gets a 4) and the >first 2/3 are a little slow, but when you come out of the movie >theatre and see the big line waiting for the next show, its like >you're getting off a ride at Disneyland =) > >Overall, i'd give it a B+ > >wheee! > > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 05:30:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26755 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 05:30:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 26740 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 05:30:32 -0000 Received: from netcom19.netcom.com (lime@192.100.81.132) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 05:30:32 -0000 Received: (from lime@localhost) by netcom19.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id WAA21951; Wed, 19 May 1999 22:30:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Simonich Message-Id: <199905200530.WAA21951@netcom19.netcom.com> Subject: Re: look for me at Audio Impact!!!! I am the cute one. To: dadope@juno.com Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 22:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Cc: chocolate976@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <19990519.210837.-56255.3.DaDope@juno.com> from "dadope@juno.com" at May 19, 99 09:01:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > What's going on here? Why didn't I know there was an Audio Impact this > weekend? Don't tell me it's 18+... > > Peace, > Theresa Don't think there was one. Look at the date on the original email... > > On Fri, 09 Apr 1999 13:49:43 PDT "michael waldren" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > writes: > >Hey yall, > > > >I want to see everyone out at Audio Impact on Saturday. Looks like this person's mailer was almost as slow as the REAL post office and held onto his email for a month....;) -Opus From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 05:47:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2008 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 05:47:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 1995 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 05:47:53 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 05:47:53 -0000 Received: from BBoiBreks@aol.com (3932) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id yPGJa29329; Thu, 20 May 1999 01:47:16 -0400 (EDT) From: BBoiBreks@aol.com Message-ID: <6c59d0ad.2474fbe3@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 01:47:15 EDT Subject: Re: NRR Star Wars To: jgoldberg@dand.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey, ILM is down the street from where I live and I used to water their lawn and get lots of cool flesh feeling props for compensation. I also have pieces of the original model of the EWOK village from George Lucas himself cuz they were throwing it away. It was way b4 i knew what Star Wars even was, I was only 7. Amanda Lukas also used to be part of my dance troupe until she tranferred over to the adult troupe. Lucky bastard. Yeah, ILM is still down the street from me and the lawn is prolly long dead the naive poser bboibreks From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 06:19:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14760 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 06:19:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 14724 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 06:19:33 -0000 Received: from mail5.sirius.com (205.134.253.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 06:19:33 -0000 Received: from hernancz (ppp-asok04--172.sirius.net [205.134.244.172]) by mail5.sirius.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA01832; Wed, 19 May 1999 23:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <037101bea286$84f022c0$54f586cd@hernancz> Reply-To: "Good Sounds" From: "Good Sounds" To: "SFraves peeps" Cc: "Seth Maxwell Malice" , "diox-list@diox." Subject: NRR: Burningman Proposal Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 23:03:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk (Seth Maxwell Malice has a parody of the BM website. It was written up as one of the best BM spinoffs by the SF Weakly this year. His E-address is ) I recommend that you not visit his site if you have been going to BM less than 2 years. Have you guys seen the website titled "The Project: Burning Man"? I swear something has to be done about putting a stop to these people who find it humorous in making light of Burning Man. Proposal to Stop Malice Inc. and "The Project:Burning Man" Essentially, for this proposal to work, we'd roughly need $3,000 . More then likely Seth Maxwell Malice, as he likes being refered to, will show up at Burning Man. In order for this not to occur, we need money to fuel-up our Sports Utility Vehicals, and 4x4's so we can chase him down and run him over previous to the Burning Man Experience. Why $3,000? We have no idea when or where he appears, so having the vehicles at the "DEF-CON 4 level", there will be no possible way for him to elude us, or the Black Cock Rangers as long as their radios are on : ) In previous years, Seth Maxwell Malice has been seen at Burning Man SPECTATING, not really full-heartily throwing himself feet first into other peoples projects and/or slavery systems. He is not a volenteer. Instead, he is just a Player/Lout, who gets drunk and high (on god knows what), and throws himself on all the ladies, ALL The Ladies! He is NOT Burning Man material! Nor is he fit for the position of being lit on fire to light the Burning Man Effigy. If that doesn't work, perhaps we'll just give him the money and ask him to stop. -I submit this with all my heart, Maid Malice blackmail@burningman.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 07:07:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29645 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 07:07:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 29635 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 07:07:24 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 07:07:24 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-69.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.69]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA27370 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 00:07:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990520054227.006beafc@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 00:42:27 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: Track Id Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I was curious as to know if anyone new the original singer of the song they use on the Khaki Gap commercial (the soul one). I know a remake of that song is on the BodyGuard sndtrk, but thats doesn't have the flavor of the original, from last I heard. Who knows, Who Knows? Where's ma "info" bot? Nuku From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 07:12:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1608 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 07:12:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 1600 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 07:12:24 -0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 07:12:24 -0000 Received: from [206.169.228.75] (haiti-75.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.228.75]) by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with ESMTP id AAA01314 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 00:12:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: echo@mail.wenet.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 00:12:53 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: je Subject: BSP: MAZE Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It's this Friday... MAZE 415.263.6750 techno and such :) justi MAZE: TRIBAL TECHNO TRANCE life is a maze / it is amazing 415.263.6750 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 07:57:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17007 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 07:57:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 16999 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 07:57:52 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 07:57:52 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id CAA14971; Thu, 20 May 1999 02:57:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca5-201.ix.netcom.com(209.109.234.201) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma014958; Thu May 20 02:57:00 1999 Message-ID: <3743C045.3E78DF2A@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 00:56:53 -0700 From: Ray Vonie Organization: Feel Good Entertainment X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: WWoodliff@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Im confused References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk JonPaul, It's to bad, because you have it all backwards. Promoters who have been integral on the influence and the direction of the development of this scene, such as CWP are hardly exploiting anything, since they have been around since the beginning, and laid the foundation for this scene. They are just doing what they have always done, which is playing out their role within the scene that they helped create. CWP has done more for this scene than most people who consider them selves "in the know" will ever be aware of. Only a few people, were there on the front lines, making the ground braking moves that set the tone and direction of today's scene. You can't run away from the inherent influences that groups like CWP have institutionalized into the fabric and mentality of today's scene. Props must be given where they are due. Of all groups that have worked from day one, from the very first generation of the bay area scene, only 3 are still active, and have been continuously active in this scene. These groups are The Gathering, Cool World, and Feel Good. It is every other promoter that has come since them that has exploited and capitalized upon THEIR efforts, and accomplishments. Someone had to do it first, and if you trace any part of this scene back to it's origin, you are sure to end up with one of these 3 groups as the ones who actually did do it all first. I know this because I was there, every step of the way. It's a shame that with so many people in this scene, who supposedly care and love it so much, not a damn one of them really knows how things "Really" happened, and who is responsible for most of which today is overlooked, and taken for granted. Someday, I'm gona write a book, and tell-all on how this scene went from a bunch of drug dealers throwing parties, to a dance culture based on positive beliefs, and who was responsible for most of it, and then, people may finally realize just how 'out of the loop' they were, even though they though they knew it all. Keep it mellow, Vlad WWoodliff@aol.com wrote: > PLEASE!!!! > > The only reason you can say this is that CWP is the only people in > the S.F. scene who have done more to exploit the culture then you have. I > don't mean for you to take this as a negative attack against you. I have all > the respect in the world for what you have been able to accomplish with FGE. > But you have exploited the hell out of the seen. You attacked it in a > business like matter and have done very well. > > CWP on the other hand has taken it to a whole other level yes, a > whole other level of depravity. They might as well call themselves the Bill > Graham Presents of the rave scene. They do not care about the scene they > have done very little to nothing to promote what is good and genuine about > the scene. They are strictly there for the money. You know this I know this > and any body who pays attention should know this. They do not throw Raves > they through massive concerts with over 15,000 people looped out of there > mind on everything from crystal to LSD. Think about it, Think about how hard > it is to control a crowd that big when most of the people are somewhat > "sober," and the ones who aren't are mostly adults. Now switch that around, > most of the people are anything but sober, on many different types of drugs > and they are mostly kids, 12,13,14, year old kids. It is shit like this that > makes the public take notice. > > You call them responsible because they have permits. What they do > is anything but responsible. Having that many people partying like that and > thinking you have it under control not responsible. Specifically targeting > kids 13-17 years old kids is not responsible (sound familiar). > > I know someone out there is going to cry out "Ohh, but they are > helping to further expose the world to the beautiful world of dance music" > Complete bullshit!!! All they are doing is taking advantage of what is there > and milking it until it is dry. Ask yourself "Do I really think they would > be doing this if the money was not there" The answer my friend is No. And the > negitve attention they get through news media only makes it harder for the > rest of us who do care and are out ther working our asses off. > > PS Please no one think that I was lumping Vlad or FGE in with my > views on CWP. I may not agree with a lot of his promoting practices but > until he proves other wise I still would like to believe that he genuinely > dose care about SF dance culture and his heart is in the right place. I just > don't understand how he could have such a positive view on such a huge > blemish to our scene. > > Much Love; JonPaul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 08:05:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29621 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 08:05:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 29468 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 08:04:52 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 08:04:52 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com (3706) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vAJUa02573 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 04:04:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: <6bcdcfa8.24751bff@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 04:04:15 EDT Subject: rave pics web site?? stranger.rave.??? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk what is the address to this site? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 08:35:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16617 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 08:35:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 16599 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 08:35:07 -0000 Received: from pimout2-ext.prodigy.net (HELO pimout2-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.59.113) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 08:35:07 -0000 Received: from prodigy.net (SNFCB210-13.splitrock.net [209.156.149.128]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA148450; Thu, 20 May 1999 04:35:02 -0400 Message-ID: <3743C864.270FA99B@prodigy.net> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 01:31:32 -0700 From: JOELANZON Reply-To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nuku CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Track Id References: <1.5.4.32.19990520054227.006beafc@apollo.sfsu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hmmm, In "Khaki Soul", directed by rap video and film director Hype Williams the song is - Bill Withers' "Lovely Day" The "Khaki-a-go-go" is directed by graphic artist and music video director Mike Mills and the song is called "Wild Elephants" And "Khaki Country" is directed by music video director McG and the song is Dwight Yoakam covering Queen's "Crazy Little Thing Called Love'' : D - Peace - Joe PS- Do I win ? Nuku wrote: > I was curious as to know if anyone new the original singer of the song they > use on the Khaki Gap commercial (the soul one). I know a remake of that song > is on the BodyGuard sndtrk, but thats doesn't have the flavor of the > original, from last I heard. Who knows, Who Knows? Where's ma "info" bot? > > Nuku From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 08:44:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19998 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 08:44:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 19986 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 08:44:18 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 08:44:18 -0000 Received: from AlexG1029@aol.com (530) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLZDa27309 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 04:43:18 -0400 (EDT) From: AlexG1029@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 04:43:17 EDT Subject: NRR: Re: Starwars - Episode 1 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hell yea the movie kicked ass ! ! ! i say Darth Maul was a meaner lookin and better overall villain then Vader....but thats just me and the special effects were fuckin amazing! and Jar Jar was kewl as f*ck i dunno what ur talkin about mr. elias_smith@juno.com =) what pisses me off thou is that we gotta wait whole 2+ yrs for the next one! arghh! PeAcE OuT alEx =.) In a message dated 5/19/99 10:08:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, elias_smith@juno.com writes: << B+? The dialogue is SUPPOSED to be cheesy!! Remember the other 3 movies? And I would agree the first 2/3 is slow, but so was Empire. They have to develop the story. The cut scenes, dialogue, characters, one liners and everything was CLASSIC Star Wars. There were of course several disappointing aspects of the whole film, which I won't mention because they are spoilers, but after more peeps see it, I'm sure they will be brought up. I can mention one though. I would trade all 250 of those damn Ewoks for that one annoying as hell Jar Jar!! "Me'sa want to kill you Jar Jar!" You fucking annoying bastard. If Darth Maul, Qui-Gon, and the Queen weren't as good of characters as they were, Jar Jar could have blown the whole movie because he sucked all kinds of bad. In fact, Jar Jar's whole race of bubbling idiots bugged me! Especially his boss. Darth was pure evil, Qui-Gon held the whole movie together, and the Queen is my new Hollywood crush. What the heck is the actresses name? Natalie Portman? She's hot. The bad droids (forgot their name) kicked ass! And my definite fav part of the movie was R2-D2's entrance to the movie. And it was done very subtle too. I don't think I have screamed like that since I though Bill Clinton was getting impeached! And of course the Pod Race and the light-saber duel we're fuckin' rad. The light-saber duel was how it should be done! Episode 1 deserved all the hype it got. I didn't expect anything more. -g >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 09:26:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2621 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 09:26:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 2612 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 09:26:00 -0000 Received: from web104.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 09:26:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990520092631.12407.rocketmail@web104.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.30.77.82] by web104.yahoomail.com; Thu, 20 May 1999 02:26:31 PDT Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 02:26:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Marco Mancia Subject: STAR WARS!!!!!!!!!!! Episode I To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, scr@socal-raves.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk awesome, TOTALLY FUCKING AWESOME......!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -all i can say......... === -marco zapAtuR........"23" dj diablo (diabeter) ---------------------- Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 09:46:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28717 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 09:46:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 28701 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 09:46:20 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 09:46:20 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca36-64.ix.netcom.com [207.92.172.64]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA13093; Thu, 20 May 1999 02:45:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37424DDB.94AC0274@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:36:27 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DjShUbErT@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Im confused References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk COOL WORLD is owned by Microsoft and Microsoft is owned by Japan and Japan owns the US... =Paul*E*Wog DjShUbErT@aol.com wrote: > > why is it that you cannot get an all night permit in San Jose yet Cool World > is throwing their bash at the Santa Clara County Fairgrounds ? Ive been to a > handful of San Jose events and i can say only one of them went all night and > i dont remember any of them being permitted ..whats the deal? > Peace, Shubert From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 10:14:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7108 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 10:13:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 7100 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 10:13:57 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 10:13:57 -0000 Received: from AlexG1029@aol.com (3941) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNAZa03096 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 06:13:17 -0400 (EDT) From: AlexG1029@aol.com Message-ID: <59e0c465.24753a3d@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 06:13:17 EDT Subject: BSP: Trance-@ctive Forest this Fri ! ! ! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HAF Crew, Goagressive and Ground Trance-Lucent present: Friday May 21, 1999 Trance-@ctive Forest with DJs: Miss Shauna (GTL) UV13 (GTL) Baller (HAF) OxYgEn (HAF) Tripl3-A (HAF) Merlyn (HAF, VORG) GoaLova (Goagressive, HAF) We invite you to take a journey through progressive, hard and goa trance at this FREE outdoor gathering with decorations by Mother Nature and the best vibes by YOU! Please reply to TchN0013@aol.com or AlexG1029@aol.com for more info and directions ASAP!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 15:39:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6397 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 15:39:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 6386 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 15:39:36 -0000 Received: from web704.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.24) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 15:39:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990520154518.23159.rocketmail@web704.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.242.20.101] by web704.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:45:18 PDT Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 08:45:18 -0700 (PDT) From: mike bolger Subject: Re: NRR Star Wars To: BBoiBreks@aol.com, jgoldberg@dand.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --- BBoiBreks@aol.com wrote: > Hey, ILM is down the street from where I live and I > used to water their lawn > and get lots of cool flesh feeling props for > compensation. I also have pieces > of the original model of the EWOK village from > George Lucas himself cuz they > were throwing it away. It was way b4 i knew what > Star Wars even was, I was > only 7. Amanda Lukas also used to be part of my > dance troupe until she > tranferred over to the adult troupe. Lucky bastard. if you look carefully, she's an extra, stage right, when Jabba makes his entrance to start the pod race in episode 1. > > Yeah, ILM is still down the street from me and the > lawn is prolly long dead > > the naive poser > bboibreks > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 15:50:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14143 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 15:50:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 14094 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 15:50:46 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd95.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.159) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 15:50:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 78600 invoked by uid 0); 20 May 1999 15:51:54 -0000 Message-ID: <19990520155154.78599.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.111.184.96 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:51:54 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.111.184.96] From: "Justin Hale" To: rayvonie@ix.netcom.com, WWoodliff@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Im confused Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 08:51:54 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk let's not forget the Wicked/Full Moon/ComeUnity Crew(s). we called them the 'english' parties back in the day... justin hale >From: Ray Vonie >To: WWoodliff@aol.com >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: Im confused >Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 00:56:53 -0700 > >JonPaul, It's to bad, because you have it all backwards. Promoters who >have >been integral on the influence and the direction of the development of this >scene, such as CWP are hardly exploiting anything, since they have been >around >since the beginning, and laid the foundation for this scene. They are >just >doing what they have always done, which is playing out their role within >the >scene that they helped create. CWP has done more for this scene than >most >people who consider them selves "in the know" will ever be aware of. Only >a few >people, were there on the front lines, making the ground braking moves that >set >the tone and direction of today's scene. You can't run away from the >inherent >influences that groups like CWP have institutionalized into the fabric and >mentality of today's scene. Props must be given where they are due. > Of all groups that have worked from day one, from the very first >generation of the bay area scene, only 3 are still active, and have been >continuously active in this scene. These groups are The Gathering, Cool >World, >and Feel Good. It is every other promoter that has come since them that >has >exploited and capitalized upon THEIR efforts, and accomplishments. >Someone >had to do it first, and if you trace any part of this scene back to it's >origin, >you are sure to end up with one of these 3 groups as the ones who actually >did do >it all first. I know this because I was there, every step of the way. > It's a shame that with so many people in this scene, who supposedly >care and >love it so much, not a damn one of them really knows how things "Really" >happened, and who is responsible for most of which today is overlooked, and >taken >for granted. Someday, I'm gona write a book, and tell-all on how this >scene >went from a bunch of drug dealers throwing parties, to a dance culture >based on >positive beliefs, and who was responsible for most of it, and then, people >may >finally realize just how 'out of the loop' they were, even though they >though >they knew it all. > >Keep it mellow, Vlad > >WWoodliff@aol.com wrote: > > > PLEASE!!!! > > > > The only reason you can say this is that CWP is the only people >in > > the S.F. scene who have done more to exploit the culture then you have. >I > > don't mean for you to take this as a negative attack against you. I >have all > > the respect in the world for what you have been able to accomplish with >FGE. > > But you have exploited the hell out of the seen. You attacked it in a > > business like matter and have done very well. > > > > CWP on the other hand has taken it to a whole other level yes, a > > whole other level of depravity. They might as well call themselves the >Bill > > Graham Presents of the rave scene. They do not care about the scene >they > > have done very little to nothing to promote what is good and genuine >about > > the scene. They are strictly there for the money. You know this I know >this > > and any body who pays attention should know this. They do not throw >Raves > > they through massive concerts with over 15,000 people looped out of >there > > mind on everything from crystal to LSD. Think about it, Think about how >hard > > it is to control a crowd that big when most of the people are somewhat > > "sober," and the ones who aren't are mostly adults. Now switch that >around, > > most of the people are anything but sober, on many different types of >drugs > > and they are mostly kids, 12,13,14, year old kids. It is shit like this >that > > makes the public take notice. > > > > You call them responsible because they have permits. What they >do > > is anything but responsible. Having that many people partying like that >and > > thinking you have it under control not responsible. Specifically >targeting > > kids 13-17 years old kids is not responsible (sound familiar). > > > > I know someone out there is going to cry out "Ohh, but they are > > helping to further expose the world to the beautiful world of dance >music" > > Complete bullshit!!! All they are doing is taking advantage of what is >there > > and milking it until it is dry. Ask yourself "Do I really think they >would > > be doing this if the money was not there" The answer my friend is No. >And the > > negitve attention they get through news media only makes it harder for >the > > rest of us who do care and are out ther working our asses off. > > > > PS Please no one think that I was lumping Vlad or FGE in with my > > views on CWP. I may not agree with a lot of his promoting practices but > > until he proves other wise I still would like to believe that he >genuinely > > dose care about SF dance culture and his heart is in the right place. I >just > > don't understand how he could have such a positive view on such a huge > > blemish to our scene. > > > > Much Love; JonPaul > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 16:00:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22011 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 16:00:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 21996 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 16:00:49 -0000 Received: from sco.sco.com (132.147.128.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 16:00:49 -0000 Received: from novasco.sco.COM(132.147.178.252) via SMTP by sco.sco.COM, id smtpdEAAa002sm; Thu May 20 08:59:11 1999 Received: from lesleymo.sco.com by novasco.sco.com id aa18818; 20 May 99 8:57 PDT Message-ID: <374430BB.63E088D8@sco.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 08:56:43 -0700 From: Lesley Mortell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net CC: Nuku , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Track Id References: <1.5.4.32.19990520054227.006beafc@apollo.sfsu.edu> <3743C864.270FA99B@prodigy.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Which reminds me .... Q. How do you make a duck sing soul? A. Stick it in the microwave until it's Bill Withers I know, I know - don't give up the day job ....I'll get me coat. Lesley JOELANZON wrote: > > hmmm, > In "Khaki Soul", directed by rap video and film director Hype Williams the song > is - > Bill Withers' "Lovely Day" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 16:13:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29817 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 16:13:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 29809 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 16:13:19 -0000 Received: from law2-f202.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.202) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 16:13:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 19317 invoked by uid 0); 20 May 1999 16:12:52 -0000 Message-ID: <19990520161252.19316.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 152.163.195.182 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:12:52 PDT X-Originating-IP: [152.163.195.182] From: "Dj Alias" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: rave pics web site?? stranger.rave.??? Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:12:52 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk http://rave.stranger.com =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 16:34:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8499 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 16:34:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 8487 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 16:34:14 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 16:34:14 -0000 Received: from [192.68.228.2] (HELO mattdntbusapp) by mogwaicom.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 2.9b5) with SMTP id 642621; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:35:14 -0700 Message-ID: <013601bea2de$a802ae60$162b0a0a@efi.com> From: To: "Marco Mancia" , , References: <19990520092631.12407.rocketmail@web104.yahoomail.com> Subject: Re: STAR WARS!!!!!!!!!!! Episode I Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:34:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk NO SHITTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh baby Hey, Natalie Portman me wants.....me wants.....yaba yaba!!!!! And jaw jaw binks was hella funny!!! matt ----- Original Message ----- From: Marco Mancia To: ; Sent: Thursday, May 20, 1999 2:26 AM Subject: STAR WARS!!!!!!!!!!! Episode I > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > awesome, TOTALLY FUCKING AWESOME......!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > -all i can say......... > > > > === > -marco > > > zapAtuR........"23" > > dj diablo (diabeter) > ---------------------- > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 16:39:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10460 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 16:39:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 10448 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 16:39:26 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 16:39:26 -0000 Received: from [192.68.228.2] (HELO mattdntbusapp) by mogwaicom.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 2.9b5) with SMTP id 642624; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:40:26 -0700 Message-ID: <016601bea2df$61f25230$162b0a0a@efi.com> From: To: "Joshua Goldberg" , References: <000101bea250$3d4d1da0$f63b85d1@royal.dand> Subject: Re: NRR Star Wars Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:39:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0163_01BEA2A4.B18A7510" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0163_01BEA2A4.B18A7510 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Helz Yeah!!!! It was awsome! Our boss bought thew whole IS&T deparmtent = tickets (24 total) and took us to the 12:30pm showing yesterday! You = gots to go see it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Matt Downer ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Joshua Goldberg=20 To: SF raves=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 4:35 PM Subject: NRR Star Wars Did anyone out there see the new Star Wars? What did you think? I loved it. But YODA was in it, and anything Yoda is in i love! I = think there should be a Star Wars themed party, do you. Let me know Hugs, And Lollipops, Josh ------=_NextPart_000_0163_01BEA2A4.B18A7510 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Helz Yeah!!!! It was awsome! Our boss = bought thew=20 whole IS&T deparmtent tickets (24 total) and took us to the 12:30pm = showing=20 yesterday! You gots to go see it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
 
Matt Downer
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Joshua=20 Goldberg
To: SF = raves=20
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 = 4:35=20 PM
Subject: NRR Star Wars

Did=20 anyone out there see the new Star Wars?  What did you=20 think?
I=20 loved it.  But YODA was in it, and anything Yoda is in i = love!  I=20 think there should be a Star Wars themed party, do you.  Let me=20 know
Hugs, And Lollipops,
Josh
------=_NextPart_000_0163_01BEA2A4.B18A7510-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 16:39:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11131 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 16:39:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 11121 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 16:39:45 -0000 Received: from netcom19.netcom.com (lime@192.100.81.132) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 16:39:45 -0000 Received: (from lime@localhost) by netcom19.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id JAA24621; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:39:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Simonich Message-Id: <199905201639.JAA24621@netcom19.netcom.com> Subject: Re: STAR WARS!!!!!!!!!!! Episode I To: vipassana@warmth.org Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:39:42 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <013601bea2de$a802ae60$162b0a0a@efi.com> from "vipassana@warmth.org" at May 20, 99 09:34:28 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > *chuckle* Well, personally, I thougth it was overall better than Jedi, but not as good as Empire. Of course, the effects WERE awesome, and much better than any of the first 3. :) Gotta love that lightsabre fight with Darth Maul. ;) > > Oh baby Hey, Natalie Portman me wants.....me wants.....yaba yaba!!!!! > Heh, she was cute, wasn't she...;) > And jaw jaw binks was hella funny!!! > Annoying, too. Heh. At least it was annoying for the voice, and not the "Damn these guys are so sickeningly sweet and cutesey I need a insulin shot" of the Ewoks.... The bad asian-english accent of the trade commission guys got on my nerves really fast tho. heh. > matt > -Opus > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Marco Mancia > To: ; > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 1999 2:26 AM > Subject: STAR WARS!!!!!!!!!!! Episode I > > > awesome, TOTALLY FUCKING AWESOME......!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > -all i can say......... > > > > === > > -marco From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 16:52:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20215 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 16:52:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 20206 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 16:52:55 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 16:52:55 -0000 Received: from [192.68.228.2] (HELO mattdntbusapp) by mogwaicom.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 2.9b5) with SMTP id 642632; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:53:54 -0700 Message-ID: <019e01bea2e1$43954570$162b0a0a@efi.com> From: To: "Kriss *" , , References: <19990519195328.28228.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: KRR: Over-Protective Parents & Raves Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:53:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk NO SHIT!!!!!!!!! They will do that forever, then when you have kids they will continuse to tell you what to do and how to raise them!!!!! matt ----- Original Message ----- From: Kriss * To: ; Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 12:53 PM Subject: Re: KRR: Over-Protective Parents & Raves > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > > >I would also like to say that i do love my parents with the deepest respect > >and i thank them for everything that they have taught me but i just wish > >that > >they would get off my back. I guess it'll happen when i move out. > > hahaha! i'm 29, and my parents are STILL telling me what to do and what not > to do! > > but now they're just words, and i don't have to do what they tell me. i do > give them respect and at least listen, though. > > for some parents, no matter how great you turn out, no matter how successful > you are, they think you can be better and feel they need to tell you how on > a regular basis. that messed with my head for a long time. now, i try to > focus on the fact that i am a good person, a productive member of society, > and i live a life i enjoy very much. and if they don't like it, that's > their tough luck. i'm not going to live my life for them, i'm living it for > me. > > oops, didn't mean to get on a rant. > > have a great day everyone! > > with love, > kriss =) > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 16:55:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22121 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 16:55:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 22087 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 16:55:42 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 16:55:42 -0000 Received: from [192.68.228.2] (HELO mattdntbusapp) by mogwaicom.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 2.9b5) with SMTP id 642634; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:56:42 -0700 Message-ID: <01b201bea2e1$a7d862b0$162b0a0a@efi.com> From: To: "Macadio G." , References: <19990519174851.37903.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: First Light Thanks all of you!! Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:56:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Any time MacDadIo! We loves ya! Matt Downer ----- Original Message ----- From: Macadio G. To: Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 10:48 AM Subject: First Light Thanks all of you!! > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > Just wanted to send out a message of Thanks, > > I have been and still am recovering from this past weekend. Damn no one told > me that doing a large scale party was so much work. I mean I figured it > would be a lot but not as much as it was.. He had a couple of close calls > before the doors opened that made the party almost not happen. (I.E > Generator being in the wrong location) and not being set to the right > voltage. It came together at the last minute and I was happy. I am glad that > most of you kept that faith and took a chance on another one of our parties > I hope all of you that attended had a good time? I did not have as good of a > time cause I did not get to shake my booty except when I was spinning. I > want to especially thank the crew that helped out without your guy's help we > would not have been able to pull it off. everyone was great and I thank all > the staff. Each person played a key part in the party and I don't really > want to name names except for a few. Thanks goes out to Michael > "disfuntional1" for the Submarine, Shouts and thanks goes out to > Steve,Isaac,and crazy KJ for security thanks for having a brotha's back.. > Thanks Matt and Kevin for Crowd control. Thanks to the Cutie mermaid that > were working door,crowd control etc.. Thanks for the Ladder Mook. There are > so many more people that helped with this party but I don't want to take up > everyones time with listing it. > > Thank you all for attending and keeping the faith!! Call the voicemail for > updates on future FL parties as well as other events that we will be helping > at. Stay tuned for our future party at the end of Summer or early Fall we > are not sure of dates at this time but we will keep you all posted. > > Macadio (FL collective) > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 17:02:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24954 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 17:02:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 24943 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 17:02:23 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 17:02:23 -0000 Received: from [192.68.228.2] (HELO mattdntbusapp) by mogwaicom.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 2.9b5) with SMTP id 642638; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:03:23 -0700 Message-ID: <021101bea2e2$96c4a190$162b0a0a@efi.com> From: To: "m|n|m@|" Cc: "Marco Mancia" , , References: Subject: Re: STAR WARS!!!!!!!!!!! Episode I Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:02:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Me??? Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: m|n|m@| To: Cc: Marco Mancia ; ; Sent: Thursday, May 20, 1999 9:39 AM Subject: Re: STAR WARS!!!!!!!!!!! Episode I > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > > > And jaw jaw binks was hella funny!!! > > you must be a super candy raver :) > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 17:09:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28584 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 17:09:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 28473 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 17:09:12 -0000 Received: from firstclass.monterey.edu (HELO mail.monterey.edu) (198.189.5.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 17:09:12 -0000 Message-id: Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:07:21 -0700 Subject: What ever happened....... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu (Robert Delarosa) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know what happened to Rotation, Lepidoptera and the group that did the enchanted broccoli forest last year? Anything coming up? They threw such great parties; if anyone knows anything coming up, please email me privately. Thanks, aQ btw ColorBlind is going to put on it's next event in mid october. It will be called either Land-Phil or Fill-Up for Brotha Phil's Birthday. Also, there will be a small UG this summer. If you want to be on that list, reply to me w/ info. Be on the lookout for ColorBlind records to be out later this year. Things are happening! Hugs and Jungle, aQ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 17:20:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6261 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 17:19:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 6242 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 17:19:54 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 17:19:54 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-76.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.76]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA17141 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:19:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990520155458.006c2f50@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:54:58 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: Re: STAR WARS!!!!!!!!!!! Episode I Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Dammit Ja Ja was a Jamacian and so was his entire race. I was just waiting for him to blaze up. Yeah maybe I am reading to much into the movie but if I am...then sod you, and shag off. :) What does the Trade Federation's accents sounds like? "Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to Suffering" Oh and it's quite humorous to add motherfucker to everything Samuel L. Jackson says. Nuku >At 09:39 AM 5/20/99 -0700, you wrote: >>> >> >>*chuckle* Well, personally, I thougth it was overall better than Jedi, >>but not as good as Empire. Of course, the effects WERE awesome, and much >>better than any of the first 3. :) Gotta love that lightsabre fight with >>Darth Maul. ;) >> >>> >>> Oh baby Hey, Natalie Portman me wants.....me wants.....yaba yaba!!!!! >>> >> >>Heh, she was cute, wasn't she...;) >> >>> And jaw jaw binks was hella funny!!! >>> >> >>Annoying, too. Heh. At least it was annoying for the voice, and not the >>"Damn these guys are so sickeningly sweet and cutesey I need a insulin >>shot" of the Ewoks.... The bad asian-english accent of the trade >>commission guys got on my nerves really fast tho. heh. >> >>> matt >>> >> >>-Opus >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Marco Mancia >>> To: ; >>> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 1999 2:26 AM >>> Subject: STAR WARS!!!!!!!!!!! Episode I >>> >>> > awesome, TOTALLY FUCKING AWESOME......!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>> > >>> > -all i can say......... >>> > >>> > === >>> > -marco >> >> > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 17:53:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23479 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 17:53:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 23470 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 17:53:05 -0000 Received: from law-f88.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.151) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 17:53:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 1026 invoked by uid 0); 20 May 1999 17:53:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19990520175304.1025.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.111.131.80 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:53:03 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.111.131.80] From: "Corey Landon" To: BlueWAK@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: My First Light; Full of Surprises Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:53:03 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Young? I believe that Tami is 22 or 23 (according to her previous posts). I didn't mean to come off as harsh, but her post was a model of what not to post to a forum of 400+ users. I know that it's pointless to argue with every kid on this list about why it's not ok to publically advertise your drug use, but sometimes there are just glaring examples that should be pointed out. CL >From: BlueWAK@aol.com >To: grltroopr@hotmail.com >CC: Taiida@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: My First Light; Full of Surprises >Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:55:45 EDT > >A little hard on her don't you think? I didn't see her mentioning anything >about not taking E because he told her NOT to...I think it was unchartered >territory and until she kinda felt the situation out she didn't want to >just >tell him about it and him make assumptions without seeing or experiencing >it >for himself. Having come from the "country" scene before the rave scene, I >can tell you that drugs are NOT a big part of that scene..drinking and >tobacco yes...drugs...no. And it sounds like she just hadn't mentioned the >fact of the "E" to the guy before getting him to go to a party. I also am >not >sure how old she is, but assuming she is a little younger I think it's >also >a learning process and not necessarily "a foreshadowing of issues in the >future". She'll learn..she's young..and if you wanted to help point out >some >things that YOU think she could have or should have handled >differently...that's fine. But I can tell you that the way you presented >it >to her is NOT going to do the trick...that will only make her >defensive...you >might as well be her mom!! If you want to help people...THINK about how >you >say things. If you don't, then continue on with your way of approaching >issues...you're doing just fine. > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 17:55:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25935 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 17:55:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 25776 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 17:55:39 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 17:55:39 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com (7820) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vCTNa01068; Thu, 20 May 1999 13:54:43 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: <20a672f.2475a662@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 13:54:42 EDT Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?BSP:=20.=20,=20-=20'=20*=20`=20-=20,=20.=20-=20'=20?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=B0=B0=B0STAR*BURST=B0=B0=B0=20`=20-=20.=20,=20-=20'=20*=20?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?`=20-=20,=20.?= To: sfraves@hyperreal.org CC: sacraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Netmail sub 2 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It's a three day weekend, school is finally over, and summer is officially here! Start your summer off at an intimate gathering of friends and party kids to benefit the Sacramento food bank at STAR*BURST! for more information visit the website: http://members.aol.com/JUNGurlE/StarBurst.html $5 w/ canned food $7 w/o Eric Spire Greg Sandler Joe Lanzon DJ Jeyson Dragn'fly Hoth 916.815.4337 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 18:38:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 204 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 18:38:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 175 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 18:38:51 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 18:38:51 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com (533) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vBTOa27309 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:37:53 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 14:37:37 EDT Subject: Re: flaming... and other good stuff.. was Re: My First Light; Full of Surprises To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Netmail sub 2 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk just a quick thought to everyone.. why do we feel the need to flame people on the list publicly.. is that so everyone can see how "overly cool" we are? Why not just do it privatly and to the person's eyes it was meant to see.. otherwise it seems like showing off.. or saying your a better, smarter, more sophisticated person than the other.. People are only human and yes we do make mistakes and say/ do things that others will deem only as wrong. just remember everytime you get 2 or more people together .... difference in opinion CAN and WILL occur.. just deal and get over it! :) <3 amber R P.S. Notice how I say WE.. not to leave my self out of this one. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 18:51:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19497 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 18:51:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 19479 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 18:51:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 18:51:38 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 252 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:48:44 -0700 Message-ID: <374459D8.DF604F9@hrg.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 11:52:08 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFraves peeps Subject: job opening for a UI Designer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have a job opening available for a Creative Interface Developer, located in redwood city. the company is knowledge universe (one of larry ellisons companys). send me your resume if interested. (experienced designers only please) john r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 19:01:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26719 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 19:01:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 26563 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 19:01:46 -0000 Received: from law2-f89.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.89) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 19:01:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 50888 invoked by uid 0); 20 May 1999 19:01:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990520190117.50887.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.173.42.100 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 20 May 1999 12:01:17 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.173.42.100] From: "Kriss *" To: Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: What ever happened....... Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 12:01:17 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Does anyone know what happened to Rotation, Lepidoptera and the group that >did the enchanted broccoli forest last year? rotation was supposed to have a one-year anniversary party this month, but we're not. chad in the blue is the main man for this group, and i haven't heard much from him lately. the site of the last rotation party is no longer available, so that may be the hold-up. the broccoli forest people, hoi polloi (sp?), i've heard have a party in the works. they were actually supposed to have had one a while ago, but it fell through at the last minute. dunno about lepidoptera. hope this helps! with love, kriss =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 20:07:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18051 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 20:07:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 18042 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 20:07:22 -0000 Received: from zahn.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 20:07:22 -0000 Received: from godzilla3.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla3.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.44]) by zahn.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id QAA23159; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:04:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla3.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id QAA26999; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:04:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:04:16 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla3.acpub.duke.edu To: BBoiBreks@aol.com cc: jgoldberg@dand.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR Star Wars In-Reply-To: <6c59d0ad.2474fbe3@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok, now that we are getting into "i got a connection to george lucas", here's mine. amanda lucas was a freshman at my high school when i was a senior. my mom handed out the name tags to george and amanda lucas at the marin academy open house. amanda is best friends with a girl who is the girlfriend of my boyfriend's best friend, and that girl also rides at the barn that my highschool best friend rode horses at. and another friend recently had a temp job working at skywalker ranch in the international dept doing filing. beat that! hehe, jk, but it's funny how this six degrees of seperation works huh. much love, amber "i'll be one with the force at 10 pm tonight!" mcquown On Thu, 20 May 1999 BBoiBreks@aol.com wrote: > > Hey, ILM is down the street from where I live and I used to water their lawn > and get lots of cool flesh feeling props for compensation. I also have pieces > of the original model of the EWOK village from George Lucas himself cuz they > were throwing it away. It was way b4 i knew what Star Wars even was, I was > only 7. Amanda Lukas also used to be part of my dance troupe until she > tranferred over to the adult troupe. Lucky bastard. > > Yeah, ILM is still down the street from me and the lawn is prolly long dead > > the naive poser > bboibreks > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 20:20:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29256 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 20:20:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 29246 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 20:20:08 -0000 Received: from law-f149.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.212) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 20:20:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 80219 invoked by uid 0); 20 May 1999 20:19:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19990520201940.80218.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.111.131.80 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 20 May 1999 13:19:40 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.111.131.80] From: "Corey Landon" To: JUNGurlE@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: flaming... and other good stuff.. was Re: My First Light; Full of Surprises Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 13:19:40 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well if you'd look back a day or so, you would have read that I meant to keep that reply private. Oops. CL >From: JUNGurlE@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: flaming... and other good stuff.. was Re: My First Light; Full >of Surprises >Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 14:37:37 EDT > >just a quick thought to everyone.. > >why do we feel the need to flame people on the list publicly.. is that so >everyone can see how "overly cool" we are? Why not just do it privatly and >to the person's eyes it was meant to see.. otherwise it seems like showing >off.. or saying your a better, smarter, more sophisticated person than the >other.. People are only human and yes we do make mistakes and say/ do >things >that others will deem only as wrong. > >just remember everytime you get 2 or more people together .... difference >in >opinion CAN and WILL occur.. just deal and get over it! > >:) > ><3 amber R > >P.S. Notice how I say WE.. not to leave my self out of this one. > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 20:34:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10296 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 20:34:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 10282 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 20:34:04 -0000 Received: from web302.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.184) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 20:34:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19990520203539.17026.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.9.132] by web302.yahoomail.com; Thu, 20 May 1999 13:35:39 PDT Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 13:35:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Gosiewski Subject: Re: Visual Evolution (#1)- Responses + More To: eyecandy@egroups.com Cc: sf raves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thanks to all of you who responded to `Visual Evolution part 1 (76-81)'(Posted a couple of weeks ago) I was amazed & a little overwhelmed at the quantity & quality of responses, questions etc . It is great to know how many of you have a genuine interest in this aspect of our culture (Especially from Sfraves peeps who are not involved professionally)... Visual crews often feel unappreciated - so it is heartening to hear how audiences recognise how much quality visuals can add to an event... and how much people are interested in the art & history of Live Visual Performance as a medium... Anyway I apologise for taking so long to respond to the questions asked about part 1 & posting part 2... I guess the best way would be to respond to questions in digest form as many were duplicates (& yes I will go into gear lists for VJ systems as they evolved over the years!). I will be sending private posts of Part 1 (Special Edition) to those who asked specifically technical questions... And part 2 will be sent soon (Please bear with me as my last few weeks have been hectic)... It has been a blast reading some of the comments & sharing my long view of the evolution of this emerging art form. ... Also I would be interested to hear from other visual crews what inspired them to get into this medium in the first place. ... + (For EyeCandy list folks) Maybe we could put together all our histories into an objective, Global timeline before the history of this medium gets lost or forgotten ... Onward & Upward, Stefan Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 20:43:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16456 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 20:43:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 16447 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 20:43:09 -0000 Received: from law2-f44.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 20:43:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 54748 invoked by uid 0); 20 May 1999 20:42:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990520204242.54747.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 162.93.14.66 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 20 May 1999 13:42:42 PDT X-Originating-IP: [162.93.14.66] From: "CARLOS SOTO" To: SFRAVES@HYPERREAL.ORG Subject: Amnesia, Free Tape! Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 20:42:42 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi! this is Pistachio. Just Wanted to let yall know Anonymous and I will have mix tapes to give away at Efflorescence. All you have to do is ask. Just look for the geekiest looking guys at the party. If you're sick of the old one, and we promised you a new tape, we'll have some of those too. We'll be spinning at a free outdoor in Vacaville Saturday Night... Here's another cool party we're playing at: (Please notice that Doran and Onionz are playing...these guys are out of towners and not to be missed) Amnesia, with... ONIONZ (ELECTRIC SOUL/Imperial Dub/Chocolate Factory- NYC), DORAN (Fragrant Music/RAM), JIM HOPKINS (Twitch/V-Wax/ELECTROLINERS,-SF), TONY (The Gatherings, SF), HAPPY KID MARTY (Happy Kids- SF), DJ TECHNIQUE (CLOCKWORK DJ's/Journeez Music), Homero X-Pinosa (GoodeTyme DJ's), Pistachio + Aonymous(Math Sound Workshop), Tracy (Sister/Daddy's Records), Jesse (the crate). $15. pre-sale or $20.00 @ door . 415.674.1111 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 20:52:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25217 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 20:52:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 25185 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 20:52:44 -0000 Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (209.185.123.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 20:52:44 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by hotbot.com; Thu May 20 13:52:07 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 13:52:07 -0700 From: "Matt Schwartz" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: BSP:..kidz de la sol ;-) X-Sender-Ip: 17.219.105.66 Organization: HotBot Mail (http://mail.hotbot.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What up Folks and Kidz... Just want to shout out a quick BSP and promo for the upcoming Children of the Sun party. I've just been added to the line-up (Thorfio) and will probably be throwin down some down-tempo breaks in the chill room, fo yo chillin' pleasure ;-) I also want to take a second to give major props to Issak, KJ, Matt D., and Pyro, the guys that throw this party, for keepin the underground alive in this scene with thier parties. There so much temptation these dayz to just sell-out and throw a huge party at 2nd & Crackhouse with no vibe at all. These guys understand that what seperates us from the kidz that couldn't care otherwise is the vibe that all begins at parties like this one...hope to see you all there! Peace, Matt Schwartz (A.K.A. THORFIO) >> >>Friday May 21st 9pm-6am? >>East Bay Location >> >>children of the sun...And The Journey Continues >> >>Brad / Moontribe-LA (2 hour extended set) >>Beatseed / Journeys-Seattle (Live Performance) >>Greg Sandler / Harmony >>andyW / Viberation >>Macadio / First Light >>Micron / Viberation >> >>Down Tempo - Chill >> Mook >> Sky >> Thorfio >> George >>Sound By Mutor / Visuals By Viberation >> *Free Fruit & Lemonade* >> >>Limited Capacity - Presale Tickets Strongly Advised And Available @ >>($16) >>Solid Grooves / Santa Clara Harmonics / Santa Rosa >> F8 / SF Trance & Jungle / Berkeley >> >>415.835.3144 >> >>We Love You All - Spread The Warmth! >> >> > >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 20:52:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25219 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 20:52:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 25186 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 20:52:44 -0000 Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (209.185.123.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 20:52:44 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by hotbot.com; Thu May 20 13:52:07 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 13:52:07 -0700 From: "Matt Schwartz" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: BSP:..kidz de la sol ;-) X-Sender-Ip: 17.219.105.66 Organization: HotBot Mail (http://mail.hotbot.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What up Folks and Kidz... Just want to shout out a quick BSP and promo for the upcoming Children of the Sun party. I've just been added to the line-up (Thorfio) and will probably be throwin down some down-tempo breaks in the chill room, fo yo chillin' pleasure ;-) I also want to take a second to give major props to Issak, KJ, Matt D., and Pyro, the guys that throw this party, for keepin the underground alive in this scene with thier parties. There so much temptation these dayz to just sell-out and throw a huge party at 2nd & Crackhouse with no vibe at all. These guys understand that what seperates us from the kidz that couldn't care otherwise is the vibe that all begins at parties like this one...hope to see you all there! Peace, Matt Schwartz (A.K.A. THORFIO) >> >>Friday May 21st 9pm-6am? >>East Bay Location >> >>children of the sun...And The Journey Continues >> >>Brad / Moontribe-LA (2 hour extended set) >>Beatseed / Journeys-Seattle (Live Performance) >>Greg Sandler / Harmony >>andyW / Viberation >>Macadio / First Light >>Micron / Viberation >> >>Down Tempo - Chill >> Mook >> Sky >> Thorfio >> George >>Sound By Mutor / Visuals By Viberation >> *Free Fruit & Lemonade* >> >>Limited Capacity - Presale Tickets Strongly Advised And Available @ >>($16) >>Solid Grooves / Santa Clara Harmonics / Santa Rosa >> F8 / SF Trance & Jungle / Berkeley >> >>415.835.3144 >> >>We Love You All - Spread The Warmth! >> >> > >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 21:07:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11415 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 21:07:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 11263 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 21:07:07 -0000 Received: from kzsu.stanford.edu (36.118.0.90) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 21:07:07 -0000 Received: from kzsu.Stanford.EDU (KZSU.Stanford.EDU [36.118.0.90]) by kzsu.Stanford.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA21334; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 14:07:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "J.C." To: JUNGurlE@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: flaming... and other good stuff.. was Re: My First Light; Full of Surprises In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Truer words have rarely been said. On Thu, 20 May 1999 JUNGurlE@aol.com wrote: > just a quick thought to everyone.. > > why do we feel the need to flame people on the list publicly.. is that so > everyone can see how "overly cool" we are? Why not just do it privatly and > to the person's eyes it was meant to see.. otherwise it seems like showing > off.. or saying your a better, smarter, more sophisticated person than the > other.. People are only human and yes we do make mistakes and say/ do things > that others will deem only as wrong. > > just remember everytime you get 2 or more people together .... difference in > opinion CAN and WILL occur.. just deal and get over it! > > :) > > <3 amber R > > P.S. Notice how I say WE.. not to leave my self out of this one. > -- "An Epiphany of Sound" - 90.1 FM Tuesdays from 9PM-Mid Pacific. (Also on the web at http://realaudio.stanford.edu/). Playlists and humor list archives at http://www-kzsu.stanford.edu/~dougm "Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of KZSU Radio or Stanford University." (or words to that effect.) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 21:23:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23393 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 21:23:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 23382 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 21:23:19 -0000 Received: from nettapp.nettwerk.com (HELO budd.nettwerk.com) (209.17.154.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 21:23:19 -0000 Received: from [216.101.68.178] (adsl-216-101-68-178.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [216.101.68.178]) by budd.nettwerk.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA05812; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:19:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: william@mailhost.nettwerk.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 14:26:18 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: william godoy Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Can anyone give me info on this rave that's supposed to be 40,000 strong. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 21:31:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27401 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 21:31:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 27238 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 21:31:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 21:31:02 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 262; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:28:00 -0700 Message-ID: <37447F28.8F16DA32@hrg.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 14:31:20 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MacBunny CC: BBoiBreks@aol.com, jgoldberg@dand.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR Star Wars References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I got you all beat. I used to live on skywalker ranch. Had my own cabin out there in the redwoods...great view. George owns all the land out there, so he was indirectly my landlord. Oh, and at one time I worked at Big Rock deli, his son used to come in all cracked out all the time. john r :p MacBunny wrote: > ok, now that we are getting into "i got a connection to george lucas", > here's mine. amanda lucas was a freshman at my high school when i was a > senior. my mom handed out the name tags to george and amanda lucas at > the marin academy open house. amanda is best friends with a girl who is > the girlfriend of my boyfriend's best friend, and that girl also rides at > the barn that my highschool best friend rode horses at. and another friend > recently had a temp job working at skywalker ranch in the international > dept doing filing. beat that! > > hehe, jk, but it's funny how this six degrees of seperation works huh. > > much love, > amber "i'll be one with the force at 10 pm tonight!" mcquown > > On Thu, 20 May 1999 BBoiBreks@aol.com wrote: > > > > > Hey, ILM is down the street from where I live and I used to water their lawn > > and get lots of cool flesh feeling props for compensation. I also have pieces > > of the original model of the EWOK village from George Lucas himself cuz they > > were throwing it away. It was way b4 i knew what Star Wars even was, I was > > only 7. Amanda Lukas also used to be part of my dance troupe until she > > tranferred over to the adult troupe. Lucky bastard. > > > > Yeah, ILM is still down the street from me and the lawn is prolly long dead > > > > the naive poser > > bboibreks > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, > is the characteristic of one who knows." > > amber perry-mcquown > > akp2@acpub.duke.edu > amber@earthling.net > amber@marin.cc.ca.us > > http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 21:42:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3736 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 21:42:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 3714 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 21:42:47 -0000 Received: from law-f44.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.107) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 21:42:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 61105 invoked by uid 0); 20 May 1999 21:42:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19990520214220.61103.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.215.169 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:42:20 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.215.169] From: "Amber Leahey" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR-star wars suprise spoils. Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 14:42:20 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I read a chat transcript of the producer of Star Wars. He said to look real close at the scenery in the Galactic Senate.(was that scene not bad ass or what?) Anyways, I'm looking around and as the scene is fading out you see athree E.T.'s in one of the pods. I was so excited, I started yelling out..."I see E.T.'s! I see E.T.'s!...yay!" I got to see the movie twice yesterday and I'm going to see it again tomorrow in Seattle. I got to gow with a few people who were extras in the movie...that was cool because they were so excited about seeing themselves in the movie. I wanna be in the next episode! Amber (A.K.A. st*rgrrl) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 21:48:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6860 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 21:48:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 6834 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 21:48:32 -0000 Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (209.185.123.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 21:48:32 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by hotbot.com; Thu May 20 14:47:58 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 14:47:58 -0700 From: "FREQ MAGNET" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: RAVER SCHOOL...funny! :) X-Sender-Ip: 216.102.196.219 Organization: HotBot Mail (http://mail.hotbot.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk *lol! someone sent this to me! i don't know if you guys have seen it yet, but it cracks me the hell up! hehe. (sorry if i'm a little anti-social sometimes, as a "junglist") lol. i'm still a newbie, but i guess i graduated early!* love & rage, catrina How to maintain the essential level of drama required to be a true scenester. Here are the grades: Grade 1 - INSTA-RAVER Less than three months in the scene. You still don't know what all the fuss over vicks is about. You love all the music, especially cheesy trance. You have not yet figured out why others fuss incessantly over someone who just plays a couple of records. You have one pair of fat pants and you're trying to figure out how not to trash the cuffs. You gladly pay to get into parties and always take candy to give to people because that's what you've heard you're supposed to do. You make comments like "everyone is just so friendly here". Grade 2 - RAVER IN TRAINING Three to six months in the scene. You go to parties to dance and will do so most of the night. You still like most of the music but usually go to take a break when they play jungle. You're still buying music at hastings but you've given your copy of "rave til dawn" to a friend. You've tried E but haven't quite figured out what's so great about it. You walked into platinum one day to look but were intimidated by the fact that you didn't know any of the artists names, not to mention the high level of testosterone. You've become somewhat annoyed at the high cost of parties and are wondering why some of your new friends always get in for free. Grade 3 - RAVER CADET Six months to one year in the scene. You still like to dance, but only when they play good house or trance, unless, that is, your friend who you met a couple of parties ago is playing in which case you will dance to whatever style they're playing. Your confusion regarding the magic of just playing a couple of records starts to fade into blind worship as you constantly hear the phrase "DJ" discussed in a god-like context. You receive no less than ten to twenty hugs when you walk into most parties from all of your good friends you've met in the last couple of months. You have learned not to eat a big meal before going to a party and have found enough people willing to rub you that E now has a bit more magic than it did at first. You're not so much into the candy anymore but you always seem to have vicks, masks and for some reason a pair of scissors at every party. You have stopped purchasing CDs at hastings and prefer mix tapes, either given to you from friends, or, purchased from the right record stores. You have figured out that if you show up a couple of hours early to a party not only do you get to smoke pot with other RAVER CADETS but you get in free cause you put stuff up on the wall. Your basic training is now complete. At this point you may take one of the RAVER paths 1: BASIC RAVER The basic raver just contines exploring what's already been learned. The BASIC RAVER overcomes record store anxiety enough to start purchasing at least a couple of records and manages to find an old turntable at the goodwill. 2: JUNGLIST The junglist is a special type of raver. Known as slight outcasts they eschew all other types of music and can be heard muttering phrases like "Jungle is the shit". Characteristics include anti-social behaviour and limited rhythmic ability. 3: CANDY KID The candy kid loves to love. Those that see hugs as another party drug gravitate to this path. Usually confused by the other raver types, well, usually just confused. Each of these have their own unique qualities and whichever route you choose you will be taking advantage of the full on RAVER status. After an additional year in the scene in one of the above categories you can either stabalize your raver training as you graduate to SCENSTER -or- you can take one of the advanced paths 1: DJ 2: PROMOTER Discussing the details of these training paths is beyond the scope of this article, and well, it's just not done, discussing the secrets of DJing or PROMOTING in public that is. Only SCENESTERs/DJs/PROMOTERs are allowed to know the inner workings of the scene. There is no shortcutting this, you must go through the steps and it is no shame to be an INSTA-RAVA, just don't try to pretend your more than that and you won't bring on the wrath of those who have gone before you. Much peace and love my fellow ravers and ravers in training and remember, when you can snatch the candy bracelet from my hand you will know the path that is right for you. HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 21:54:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14319 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 21:54:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 14306 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 21:54:41 -0000 Received: from law2-f96.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.96) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 21:54:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 27585 invoked by uid 0); 20 May 1999 21:54:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990520215405.27584.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 162.93.14.68 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:54:05 PDT X-Originating-IP: [162.93.14.68] From: "CARLOS SOTO" To: quietriot@hotbot.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: RAVER SCHOOL...funny! :) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 21:54:05 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You can also take the unglamorous path of underappreciated and overworked sound/light/visual dude. >From: "FREQ MAGNET" >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: RAVER SCHOOL...funny! :) >Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 14:47:58 -0700 > >*lol! someone sent this to me! i don't know if you guys have seen it yet, >but it cracks me the hell up! hehe. (sorry if i'm a little anti-social >sometimes, as a "junglist") lol. i'm still a newbie, but i guess i >graduated early!* >love & rage, >catrina > > >How to maintain the essential level of drama required to be a true >scenester. > >Here are the grades: > >Grade 1 - INSTA-RAVER > >Less than three months in the scene. You still don't know what all the fuss >over vicks is about. You love all the music, especially cheesy trance. You >have not yet figured out why others fuss incessantly over someone who just >plays a couple of records. You have one pair of fat pants and you're >trying to figure out how not to trash the cuffs. You gladly pay to get >into parties and always take candy to give to people because that's what >you've heard you're supposed to do. You make comments like "everyone is >just so friendly here". > > >Grade 2 - RAVER IN TRAINING > >Three to six months in the scene. You go to parties to dance and will do >so most of the night. You still like most of the music but usually go to >take a break when they play jungle. You're still buying music at hastings >but you've given your copy of "rave til dawn" to a friend. You've tried E >but haven't quite figured out what's so great about it. You walked into >platinum one day to look but were intimidated by the fact that you didn't >know any of the artists names, not to mention the high level of >testosterone. You've become somewhat annoyed at the high cost of parties >and are wondering why some of your new friends always get in for free. > >Grade 3 - RAVER CADET > >Six months to one year in the scene. You still like to dance, but only >when they play good house or trance, unless, that is, your friend who you >met a >couple of parties ago is playing in which case you will dance to whatever >style they're playing. Your confusion regarding the magic of just playing >a couple of records starts to fade into blind worship as you constantly >hear the phrase "DJ" discussed in a god-like context. You receive no less >than ten to twenty hugs when you walk into most parties from all of your >good friends you've met in the last couple of months. You have learned not >to eat a big meal before going to a party and have found enough people >willing to rub you that E now has a bit more magic than it did at first. >You're not so much into the candy anymore but you always seem to have >vicks, masks and for some reason a pair of scissors at every party. You >have stopped purchasing CDs at hastings and prefer mix tapes, either given >to you from friends, or, purchased from the right record stores. You have >figured out that if you show up a couple of hours early to a party not only >do you get to smoke pot with other RAVER CADETS but you get in free cause >you put stuff up on the wall. Your basic training is now complete. At this >point you may take one of the RAVER paths > >1: BASIC RAVER >The basic raver just contines exploring what's already been learned. The >BASIC RAVER overcomes record store anxiety enough to start purchasing at >least a couple of records and manages to find an old turntable at the >goodwill. > >2: JUNGLIST >The junglist is a special type of raver. Known as slight outcasts they >eschew all other types of music and can be heard muttering phrases like >"Jungle is the shit". Characteristics include anti-social behaviour and >limited rhythmic ability. > >3: CANDY KID >The candy kid loves to love. Those that see hugs as another party drug >gravitate to this path. Usually confused by the other raver types, well, >usually just confused. > >Each of these have their own unique qualities and whichever route you >choose you will be taking advantage of the full on RAVER status. After an >additional year in the scene in one of the above categories you can either >stabalize your raver training as you graduate to SCENSTER -or- you can >take one of the advanced paths >1: DJ >2: PROMOTER > >Discussing the details of these training paths is beyond the scope of this >article, and well, it's just not done, discussing the secrets of DJing or >PROMOTING in public that is. Only SCENESTERs/DJs/PROMOTERs are allowed to >know the inner workings of the scene. There is no shortcutting this, you >must go through the steps and it is no shame to be an INSTA-RAVA, just >don't try to pretend your more than that and you won't bring on the wrath >of those who have gone before you. > >Much peace and love my fellow ravers and ravers in training and remember, >when you can snatch the candy bracelet from my hand you will know the path >that is right for you. > > > > > >HotBot - Search smarter. >http://www.hotbot.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 22:05:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19600 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 22:05:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 19531 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 22:05:25 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 22:05:25 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (8038) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 5RSYa29329; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:03:25 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <9e561c6.2475e0a8@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 18:03:20 EDT Subject: Re: To: william@nettwerk.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Cyberfest. Its at the Santa Clara County fairgrounds. Info line #'s 415-979-4543 or 408-235-1077. Featuring The Chemical Brothers, Josh Wink, Dj Dan, Dj Rap, and more. or you can check out thier web site at www.coolworldprod.com. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 22:10:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24384 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 22:10:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 24256 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 22:10:12 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 22:10:12 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (14432) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3UPBa03101 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:09:34 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 18:09:34 EDT Subject: Re: ...some pick up lines for those in need..... To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/19/99 6:43:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, terry@saturn5.com writes: << 4. Hi there, I'm Micron. 8. Hi I'm Micron, what I lack in height I make up in girth. OUCH!! that's all I can say... OUCH!! hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 22:42:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19151 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 22:42:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 19109 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 22:42:24 -0000 Received: from sco.sco.com (132.147.128.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 22:42:24 -0000 Received: from novasco.sco.COM(132.147.178.252) via SMTP by sco.sco.COM, id smtpdBAAa007Fk; Thu May 20 15:38:11 1999 Received: from lesleymo.sco.com by novasco.sco.com id aa04248; 20 May 99 15:33 PDT Message-ID: <37448D96.BBF6D251@sco.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 15:32:54 -0700 From: Lesley Mortell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BigM009@aol.com CC: william@nettwerk.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: References: <9e561c6.2475e0a8@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ... but there is very, very little of substance on the web-site - which is odd considering it's a 'cyber' fest !!. They say they have all these areas, tents, and 100's of acts and DJ's but only list the Chems and some other DJ, no mention of the others. It sounds like it going to be very much along the lines of the Tribal Gatherings/Essential/Big Love Festivals I've been to in the UK (and always enjoyed) but I dunno on current info I don't think I trust it. Lesley BigM009@aol.com wrote: > > Cyberfest. Its at the Santa Clara County fairgrounds. Info line #'s > 415-979-4543 or 408-235-1077. Featuring The Chemical Brothers, Josh Wink, Dj > Dan, Dj Rap, and more. or you can check out thier web site at > www.coolworldprod.com. > > Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 22:55:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24565 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 22:55:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 24557 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 22:55:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digidesign.com) (199.182.65.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 22:55:38 -0000 Received: from earthlink.net ([152.165.137.67]) by digidesign.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA07500; Thu, 20 May 1999 15:53:37 -0700 Message-ID: <374491E7.6BE4AE22@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 15:51:19 -0700 From: Chris Gill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lesley Mortell CC: BigM009@aol.com, william@nettwerk.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: References: <9e561c6.2475e0a8@aol.com> <37448D96.BBF6D251@sco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This does look a bit dodgy judging from the site, but I know for a fact from the Chem Bros manager and some of my friends at Astralwerks that they are confirmed to appear at the Santa Clara Fairgrounds on July 10. Whether it's going to be a festival or yet another "electronica" concert remains to be seen. Peace, Chris Lesley Mortell wrote: > ... but there is very, very little of substance on the web-site - which > is odd considering it's a 'cyber' fest !!. They say they have all these > areas, tents, and 100's of acts and DJ's but only list the Chems and > some other DJ, no mention of the others. It sounds like it going to be > very much along the lines of the Tribal Gatherings/Essential/Big Love > Festivals I've been to in the UK (and always enjoyed) but I dunno on > current info I don't think I trust it. > > Lesley > > BigM009@aol.com wrote: > > > > Cyberfest. Its at the Santa Clara County fairgrounds. Info line #'s > > 415-979-4543 or 408-235-1077. Featuring The Chemical Brothers, Josh Wink, Dj > > Dan, Dj Rap, and more. or you can check out thier web site at > > www.coolworldprod.com. > > > > Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 23:13:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3741 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 23:13:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 3694 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 23:13:36 -0000 Received: from web706.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.26) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 23:13:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990520231410.28585.rocketmail@web706.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.242.20.101] by web706.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:14:10 PDT Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:14:10 -0700 (PDT) From: mike bolger Subject: Re: NRR-star wars suprise spoils. To: Amber Leahey , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i heard from several people that if you look carefully in Watto's junkyard you can see some 2001 space junk in the background. and i guess if you wait untill the end of the credits ((Jabba is played by Himself)) there's a couple of audio moments with Darth Vader doing the mechanical breathing thing. --- Amber Leahey wrote: > I read a chat transcript of the producer of Star > Wars. He said to look real > close at the scenery in the Galactic Senate.(was > that scene not bad ass or > what?) Anyways, I'm looking around and as the scene > is fading out you see > athree E.T.'s in one of the pods. I was so excited, > I started yelling > out..."I see E.T.'s! I see E.T.'s!...yay!" I got to > see the movie twice > yesterday and I'm going to see it again tomorrow in > Seattle. I got to gow > with a few people who were extras in the > movie...that was cool because they > were so excited about seeing themselves in the > movie. I wanna be in the next > episode! > > Amber (A.K.A. st*rgrrl) > > > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 23:17:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5371 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 23:17:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 5356 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 23:17:42 -0000 Received: from pop05.iname.net (165.251.8.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 23:17:42 -0000 Received: from tar-and-gravel ([206.25.144.218]) by pop05.iname.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id TAA19893 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:17:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990520161717.05034930@shell4.ba.best.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:18:08 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: ry-N Subject: Re: (cyberfest) In-Reply-To: <374491E7.6BE4AE22@earthlink.net> References: <9e561c6.2475e0a8@aol.com> <37448D96.BBF6D251@sco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk im sure it will be ghetto as hell ... but hmmm ... can we afford NOT to go see BT? ryan At 03:51 PM 5/20/99 , Chris Gill wrote: >This does look a bit dodgy judging from the site, but I know for a fact from >the >Chem Bros manager and some of my friends at Astralwerks that they are >confirmed to >appear at the Santa Clara Fairgrounds on July 10. Whether it's going to be a >festival or yet another "electronica" concert remains to be seen. > >Peace, >Chris > >Lesley Mortell wrote: > >> ... but there is very, very little of substance on the web-site - which >> is odd considering it's a 'cyber' fest !!. They say they have all these >> areas, tents, and 100's of acts and DJ's but only list the Chems and >> some other DJ, no mention of the others. It sounds like it going to be >> very much along the lines of the Tribal Gatherings/Essential/Big Love >> Festivals I've been to in the UK (and always enjoyed) but I dunno on >> current info I don't think I trust it. >> >> Lesley >> >> BigM009@aol.com wrote: >> > >> > Cyberfest. Its at the Santa Clara County fairgrounds. Info line #'s >> > 415-979-4543 or 408-235-1077. Featuring The Chemical Brothers, Josh >Wink, Dj >> > Dan, Dj Rap, and more. or you can check out thier web site at >> > www.coolworldprod.com. >> > >> > Peace, M > > > ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 23:25:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8240 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 23:25:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 8230 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 23:25:53 -0000 Received: from nettapp.nettwerk.com (HELO budd.nettwerk.com) (209.17.154.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 23:25:53 -0000 Received: from [216.101.68.178] (adsl-216-101-68-178.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [216.101.68.178]) by budd.nettwerk.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA17637; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:22:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: william@mailhost.nettwerk.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:28:50 -0800 To: ry-N From: william godoy Subject: Re: (cyberfest) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk im coming from so-cal for this. Should I? or just pass on it. I have no idea what santa clara fairgrounds is like. Is it in abad area or is the fairgrounds shabby. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 23:27:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9113 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 23:27:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 9097 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 23:27:23 -0000 Received: from www.red1.com (HELO q.internetcity.com) (207.153.6.82) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 23:27:23 -0000 Received: by q.internetcity.com from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 20 May 1999 17:26:37 -0600 Received: by q.internetcity.com from q [207.153.3.171] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 20 May 1999 17:26:36 -0600 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:26:36 -0700 From: "mysticfarie.candycanelane" X-Mailer: EMURL 2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NONE Message-ID: <052099172636.0.13@mail.flairmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello =) I just moved to the Bay Area from Southern CA in January. How is the rave scene up here? Where and when are any upcoming events? Will some one please fill me in whats been going on? thank you =) -Holly =) "Every man has his own destiny: the only imperative is to follow it, to accept it, no matter where it leads him." -Henry Miller, The Wisdom of the Heart- Get your FREE, Fun Email at http://www.flairmail.com At Flairmail, we have more domains for you to choose from than any other Web-Based Email service provider. Come take a look, we're sure to have some you like. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 23:37:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12640 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 23:37:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 12619 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 23:37:32 -0000 Received: from nytoday.whowhere.com (HELO mc-qout2.whowhere.com) (209.1.236.38) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 23:37:32 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared1-mail.whowhere.com; Thu May 20 16:36:26 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, "mysticfarie.candycanelane" Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:36:26 -0700 From: "John Doe" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: NONE X-Sender-Ip: 206.111.131.80 Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail (http://www.eudoramail.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey Holly, Well fromm doggy massives to dinky renegades... we got it all. Glad ya made it up here. Check the calendar for the "routine" schtuff. Email "friends" for the under events. (Actually, one or two under events tend to make thier way on the list as well...) Paz, --_Anakin "Stay Connected" Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 23:42:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15124 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 23:42:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 15111 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 23:42:54 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 23:42:54 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (585) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHMVa29329 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:41:42 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 19:41:42 EDT Subject: [nrr] joke time with a jedi To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 230 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk just something to tickel yer phunny bone You might be a Redneck Jedi if..... * You ever said the phrase, "May the force be with y'all." * Your Jedi robe is camouflage. * You have ever used your light saber to open a bottle of Bud Light. * At least one wing of your X-Wings is primer colored. * You can easily describe the taste of an Ewok. * You have ever had a land-speeder up on blocks in your yard. * The worst part of spending time on Dagobah is the dadgum skeeters. * Wookiees are offended by your B.O. * You have ever used the force to get yourself another beer so you didn't have to wait for a commercial. * You have ever used the force in conjunction with fishing or bowling. * Your father has ever said to you, "Shoot, son come on over to the dark side...it'll be a hoot." * You have ever had your R-2 unit use its self-defense electro-shock thingy to get the barbecue grill to light up. * You have a confederate flag painted on the hood of your land-speeder. * You ever fantasized about Princess Leia wearing Daisy Duke shorts. * You have the doors of your X-wing welded shut and you have to get in through the window. * Although you had to kill him, you kinda thought that Jabba the Hutt had a pretty good handle on how to treat his women. * You have a cousin who bears a strong resemblance to Chewbacca. * You suggested that they outfit the Millennium Falcon with redwood deck. * You were the only person drinking Jack Daniels during the cantina scene. * If you hear . . . "Luke, I am your father... and your uncle..." =========- http://www.angelfire.com/hi/ovydd/humor.html -========= love and light, high tech redneck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 23:55:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24457 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 23:55:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 24448 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 23:55:33 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 23:55:33 -0000 Received: from BreAthNYoO@aol.com (3879) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vEJCa02744 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:54:43 -0400 (EDT) From: BreAthNYoO@aol.com Message-ID: <26ac618c.2475fac3@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 19:54:43 EDT Subject: BT @ CYBERFEST? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk SOMEONE CLEAR SUMSING UP.. IS BT GOING TO BE AT CYBERFEST?? I HAVENT SEEN ANY FLIERS. :=P THANKS LOVE AND LIGHT SHAAY From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 20 23:59:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25711 invoked by uid 6000); 20 May 1999 23:59:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 25698 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 23:59:22 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 23:59:22 -0000 Received: from WizardCCCA@aol.com (14389) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vZIEa02604; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:58:23 -0400 (EDT) From: WizardCCCA@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 19:58:22 EDT Subject: Re: BT @ CYBERFEST? To: BreAthNYoO@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yup yup... they are on the flier! Liz From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 00:01:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26696 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 00:01:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 26672 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 00:01:36 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?Y0BerZjHOn8sQs9Stk+ndAmdvYfAl/BQ?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 00:01:36 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id RAA05706; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:01:32 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:01:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: WizardCCCA@aol.com cc: BreAthNYoO@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: BT @ CYBERFEST? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Whoah, can you post the confirmed people from the flyer? When did you get that flyer anyways? See you at Eklektic for Dylan and Facs, and Rinse und Flux und Jamalskiii. 10-4, duh, max On Thu, 20 May 1999 WizardCCCA@aol.com wrote: > Yup yup... they are on the flier! > > Liz > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 00:02:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27757 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 00:02:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 27638 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 00:02:47 -0000 Received: from www.concourse.net (HELO mail.concourse.net) (209.63.66.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 00:02:47 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (209.63.66.51) by mail.concourse.net with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Thu, 20 May 1999 16:07:36 -0800 Message-ID: <3744A1FF.F633642B@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:00:00 -0700 From: Paul Sober X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lesley Mortell , SF Raves Subject: Re: cyberfest References: <9e561c6.2475e0a8@aol.com> <37448D96.BBF6D251@sco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk try http://www.tixtogo.com/ there's some good info there. i plan on going. it won't be a small party, but those aren't small party names either. :) it'll be nice to hear so many new sounds that don't get brought around here. paul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 00:09:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1993 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 00:09:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 1819 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 00:09:50 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 00:09:50 -0000 Received: from StrummpMe@aol.com (8018) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vEWAa06484 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 20:08:59 -0400 (EDT) From: StrummpMe@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 20:08:59 EDT Subject: cyberfest To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk CHEMICAL BROTHERS, GOLDIE BT NIZAM DJ RAP JOSH WINK DJ DAN PLANET ASIA FELIX DA HOUSECAT ROY DAVIS JR SPACETIME CONTINUUM . . .and many others From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 00:17:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4970 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 00:16:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 4957 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 00:16:55 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 00:16:55 -0000 Received: from WizardCCCA@aol.com (14389) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id dRNIa02743; Thu, 20 May 1999 20:15:38 -0400 (EDT) From: WizardCCCA@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 20:15:37 EDT Subject: Re: BT @ CYBERFEST? To: maxmcc@csua.berkeley.edu CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk *sigh* here we go. Jungle : Goldie, DJ rap, Planet asia, professor smith, raymond roker, sifu, kevy kev (mc), sideburn slim, nman, and other special guests Deep house : Felix da housecat, roy davis jr., richard humpty vision, mariner (live pa), pete avila, liquid, simon, reza, darkhorse, efx-biged-m2000 (2x4), mc foxy brown Breakbeat : DJ bizz, adam, eric spire, greg sandler, rick v., ghost-frank nitty (2x4), st. john, chris specht Localz : dj rktech, eric brown, dj mad merc, happy kid party, kwashi, kevin kind, mrs. knight, profit, happy kid ian, dj griff big names: chemical brothers, nizam, bt, josh wink, dj dan, easedrop, spacetime continuum, lost at last, dj garth, wish fm and all at the santa clara county fairgrounds.... July 10th, 1999 *phew* done typing! Liz From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 00:28:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9558 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 00:28:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 9490 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 00:27:58 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 00:27:58 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (7814) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3JCKa06834 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 20:26:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 20:26:15 EDT Subject: NRR: End-up tonight anyone ??? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just sayin that I'm going. . . .gonna hava fun, party, chill, hang out wit da homies. . . Anyone else ever go ? Seez ya Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 00:37:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14233 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 00:37:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 14161 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 00:37:23 -0000 Received: from web503.yahoomail.com (128.11.68.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 00:37:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19990521004220.21974.rocketmail@web503.yahoomail.com> Received: from [152.163.204.214] by web503.yahoomail.com; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:42:20 PDT Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:42:20 -0700 (PDT) From: What is a dic-so bunny Subject: Gigabeatz Info Please To: "Da Sack A Tomatoes ." , "Hib Ta Da Hibbidy Hop" "and da Boccoli" Biff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What's up guys?? This is Sherri.. I have a question. Please name any websites that you know of that have pics of Gigabeatz, besides SacRaves. I heard that me and my friends are on one anonymously. I demand the copyrights!! Just kidding.. Thanks bunches!! SherBear === Fievel and Dinky Little SUCK DONKEY Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 00:47:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19596 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 00:47:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 19588 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 00:47:42 -0000 Received: from web1006.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.96) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 00:47:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990521004741.10829.rocketmail@web1006.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.173.232.222] by web1006.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:47:41 PDT Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:47:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Brandon Trumble Subject: I need a Venue for awaken To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok fellow ravers I need your help again. Im looking for a venue spot anywhere in the bay area that can comfortably hold around 1000 people I would like 2 rooms and a small third room would be great for a kick it room Dont say 2nd and Jackson (the price is outrageous) or Newberrys (we all know about Newberrys!) If you own some land or a building or something to that extent I would like to talk to you. Also if you know of a really cool spot that you've been to before that sounds good for me then tell me so I can look into it. Thank you so much for your support I couldn't do this without you guys... thanx! <3Btandon Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 00:58:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25658 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 00:58:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 25349 invoked by uid 233); 21 May 1999 00:57:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 17967 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 17:40:46 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 May 1999 17:40:46 -0000 Received: from [192.68.228.2] (HELO mattdntbusapp) by mogwaicom.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 2.9b5) with SMTP id 642658; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:41:45 -0700 Message-ID: <02d201bea2e7$f35399c0$162b0a0a@efi.com> From: "Matt@warmth.org" To: "*warmth* discussion list" , Subject: So who is going to children of the sun this friday? Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:41:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02CF_01BEA2AD.46AE9100" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02CF_01BEA2AD.46AE9100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So who is going to children of the sun this friday? It is going to be = an awsome party! Very underground! some special chill room sets that = will touch you forever!!!!!!!!!! Matt=20 So come out and support out friends that provide the free fruit!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_02CF_01BEA2AD.46AE9100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
So who is going to children of the sun = this=20 friday?  It is going to be an awsome party! Very underground! some = special=20 chill room sets that will touch you forever!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
Matt
 
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------=_NextPart_000_02CF_01BEA2AD.46AE9100-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 01:08:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29975 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 01:08:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 29956 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 01:08:38 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 01:08:38 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com (14456) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id gUTOa29329; Thu, 20 May 1999 21:07:03 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 21:07:03 EDT Subject: Re: So who is going to children of the sun this friday? To: matt@warmth.org, talk@warmth.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I've never been to a children of the sun party but have heard so much good stuff that I think im gonna try to go tomorrow. So could someone please email me privately with some info? thanx matt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 01:46:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13357 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 01:46:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 13337 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 01:46:19 -0000 Received: from x15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 01:46:19 -0000 Received: (from elias_smith@juno.com) by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EA4WPCK8; Thu, 20 May 1999 21:46:08 EDT To: johnr@hrg.com Cc: akp2@duke.edu, BBoiBreks@aol.com, jgoldberg@dand.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 05:03:21 -0700 Subject: Re: NRR Star Wars Message-ID: <19990501.050323.-841747.0.Elias_Smith@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 5,8-11,13-72,74-86,88-93 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: the town drunk Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That's pretty cool John, but did you ever party with any Ewoks? My mom interned on the ranch shortly after Jedi came out and I got to go to one of the Ranch's picnics and party with midgets all day. I was of course 7, so I wasn't actually "partying" with them, but they were funny. I couldn't find the guy that played Wicket though, and I was very upset as a 7 year old about that! I also kept harrassing George all day and I think I irritated him! Well fuck him, he deserved it for what he did to us with Jar Jar! And that damn 2-headed pod racer announcer guy, he sucked! -g On Thu, 20 May 1999 14:31:20 -0700 "John Rodriguez" writes: >I got you all beat. I used to live on skywalker ranch. Had my own >cabin out >there in the redwoods...great view. George owns all the land out >there, so he was >indirectly my landlord. Oh, and at one time I worked at Big Rock >deli, his son >used to come in all cracked out all the time. > >john r :p > > >MacBunny wrote: > >> ok, now that we are getting into "i got a connection to george >lucas", >> here's mine. amanda lucas was a freshman at my high school when i >was a >> senior. my mom handed out the name tags to george and amanda lucas >at >> the marin academy open house. amanda is best friends with a girl >who is >> the girlfriend of my boyfriend's best friend, and that girl also >rides at >> the barn that my highschool best friend rode horses at. and another >friend >> recently had a temp job working at skywalker ranch in the >international >> dept doing filing. beat that! >> >> hehe, jk, but it's funny how this six degrees of seperation works >huh. >> >> much love, >> amber "i'll be one with the force at 10 pm tonight!" mcquown >> >> On Thu, 20 May 1999 BBoiBreks@aol.com wrote: >> >> > >> > Hey, ILM is down the street from where I live and I used to water >their lawn >> > and get lots of cool flesh feeling props for compensation. I also >have pieces >> > of the original model of the EWOK village from George Lucas >himself cuz they >> > were throwing it away. It was way b4 i knew what Star Wars even >was, I was >> > only 7. Amanda Lukas also used to be part of my dance troupe until >she >> > tranferred over to the adult troupe. Lucky bastard. >> > >> > Yeah, ILM is still down the street from me and the lawn is prolly >long dead >> > >> > the naive poser >> > bboibreks >> > >> > >> >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- >> Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't >know, >> is the characteristic of one who knows." >> >> amber perry-mcquown >> >> akp2@acpub.duke.edu >> amber@earthling.net >> amber@marin.cc.ca.us >> >> http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- > > > > > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 01:55:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16336 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 01:55:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 16314 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 01:55:34 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 01:55:34 -0000 Received: from Kitana3737@aol.com (14423) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vOILa02685 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 21:54:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Kitana3737@aol.com Message-ID: <71e02c5b.247616de@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 21:54:38 EDT Subject: a question To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk any suggestion for the must-have house cd of all time? i`m looking for that make-your-ass-move-you-can`t-help-but-smile-when-you-hear-it type... u know? i *love* armand van helden`s "you don`t know me" if that`ll help in any suggestions on an absolute must-have.. :) trying to push my boundaries from my first love: prog. trance :) okay!! thanks! i have so many in mind but i gotta *start* somewhere..... :) muchlove, ~*MiCheLLe*~ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 02:00:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19010 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 02:00:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 18986 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 02:00:51 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 02:00:51 -0000 Received: from Kandehata@aol.com (8031) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPUGa02602; Thu, 20 May 1999 21:58:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Kandehata@aol.com Message-ID: <9769725b.247617d8@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 21:58:48 EDT Subject: Re: a question To: Kitana3737@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk A GOOD SUGGESTION WOULD BE: DJ DAN BEATS FOR FREAKS.....ANYONE ELSE AGREE???? A From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 02:03:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21624 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 02:03:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 21610 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 02:03:18 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 02:03:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990521020148.4868.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.242] by web4; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:01:48 PDT Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 19:01:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: Re: a question To: Kandehata@aol.com, Kitana3737@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'll agree, but I just picked up DJ DAN Live @ Nikita. IMO thats 100 x better. =)jer === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 ---Kandehata@aol.com wrote: > > A GOOD SUGGESTION WOULD BE: DJ DAN BEATS FOR FREAKS.....ANYONE ELSE > AGREE???? > > A > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 02:04:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22441 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 02:04:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 22429 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 02:04:14 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 02:04:14 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (7816) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vOCEa26412 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 22:02:41 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 22:02:41 EDT Subject: Re: a question To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Try the CD compilations from Mark Farina something Mushroom. I forgot the exact name, its like a 5 CD set. He has a great funky style. Not exactly deep house. But there is alot of deep house roots there. You'll love it, guranteed. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 02:04:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22858 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 02:04:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 22733 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 02:04:25 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 02:04:25 -0000 Received: from NEXXUS19@aol.com (14413) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vKSFa03188; Thu, 20 May 1999 22:02:13 -0400 (EDT) From: NEXXUS19@aol.com Message-ID: <85e3ca91.247618a4@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 22:02:12 EDT Subject: Re: a question To: Kitana3737@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Cassius "1999"- i cant stop moving when i listen to it -Lauren From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 02:05:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24030 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 02:05:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 24015 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 02:05:49 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 02:05:49 -0000 Received: from DjShUbErT@aol.com (2615) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vTOHa02104; Thu, 20 May 1999 22:04:31 -0400 (EDT) From: DjShUbErT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 22:04:31 EDT Subject: Re: a question To: Kandehata@aol.com, Kitana3737@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Derrick Carter's Cosmic Disco Roger Sanchez : United Djs of America From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 02:07:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24889 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 02:07:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 24874 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 02:07:36 -0000 Received: from web1005.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.95) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 02:07:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990521020735.19988.rocketmail@web1005.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.77.82.108] by web1005.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:07:35 PDT Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 19:07:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Junglist Mikey Subject: Re: a question To: Kandehata@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I definitely agree... that CD is bomb as fuck and i dont even like house. DJ Dan is the ish. I would still much rather listen to muh Danny the Wild Child tape, who is going to be at BLISS in Sac on June 4th. And i hope to see all of y'all out there. Peace, "your everyday Junglist" Mikey --- Kandehata@aol.com wrote: > A GOOD SUGGESTION WOULD BE: DJ DAN BEATS FOR > FREAKS.....ANYONE ELSE > AGREE???? > > A > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 02:11:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26720 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 02:11:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 26676 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 02:10:54 -0000 Received: from dummy.sirius.com (HELO phat.r8x.net) (root@207.44.194.129) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 02:10:54 -0000 Received: from x-radio.com (toker [192.168.1.19]) by phat.r8x.net (8.8.5/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA29269; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:10:50 -0700 Message-ID: <3744C0C9.5B6E102A@x-radio.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 19:11:21 -0700 From: "W. P. Risenhoover" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kitana3737@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: a question References: <71e02c5b.247616de@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk try Imperial Dub recordings... you can hear it online with RealAudio by following this link... http://www.x-radio.com/xradcgi/title.cgi?sku=IDR016CD Kitana3737@aol.com wrote: > > any suggestion for the must-have house cd of all time? i`m looking for that > make-your-ass-move-you-can`t-help-but-smile-when-you-hear-it type... u know? > i *love* armand van helden`s "you don`t know me" if that`ll help in any > suggestions on an absolute must-have.. :) trying to push my boundaries from > my first love: prog. trance :) okay!! thanks! i have so many in mind but i > gotta *start* somewhere..... :) > > muchlove, > ~*MiCheLLe*~ -- X-RADIO.COM THE ORIGINAL ONLINE ELECTRONICA STORE x-radio.com/xradcgi/vinyl.cgi for the vinyl! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 02:23:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4350 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 02:23:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 4339 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 02:23:19 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (gamsoccr@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 02:23:19 -0000 Received: from localhost (gamsoccr@localhost) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA06907 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:23:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 19:23:13 -0700 (PDT) From: GLORIA AURORA MUNOZ To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: a different question.., Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hi guys. i love you all, but i'm going out of town for awhile and i need to find out hopw to get off this mailing address so that my mail box doesn't explode and so that my school won't kill me(my account is thru the school). any help that you can give me would be great! enjoy the bass, glo :) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 02:23:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5027 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 02:23:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 4901 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 02:23:33 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 02:23:33 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (325) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3FZNa02691 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 22:21:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <473451ec.24761d3c@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 22:21:48 EDT Subject: Fwd: a question To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_473451ec.24761d3c_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_473451ec.24761d3c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit YES YES YES !!! That cd's fat, I like the beginning, most cd's start out all groovy then like fall off really quick, but this one's pretty interesting throughout. . . . THUMBS UP !!! : ) HUGZ Aryck --part1_473451ec.24761d3c_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: Aryck46@aol.com From: Aryck46@aol.com Full-name: Aryck46 Message-ID: <473451ec.24761cf7@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 22:20:39 EDT Subject: Re: a question To: Kandehata@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 YES YES YES !!! That cd's fat, I like the beginning, most cd's start out all groovy then like fall off really quick, but this one's pretty interesting throughout. . . . THUMBS UP !!! : ) HUGZ Aryck --part1_473451ec.24761d3c_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 02:50:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15957 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 02:50:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 15935 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 02:50:07 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd88.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.152) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 02:50:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 88870 invoked by uid 0); 21 May 1999 02:49:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19990521024939.88869.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 152.163.207.203 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:49:38 PDT X-Originating-IP: [152.163.207.203] From: "sHaWn ." To: maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU, WizardCCCA@aol.com Cc: BreAthNYoO@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: BT @ CYBERFEST? Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 19:49:38 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Goldie and Dj Rap are on this bill too. > > > >Whoah, can you post the confirmed people from the flyer? > >When did you get that flyer anyways? > >See you at Eklektic for Dylan and Facs, and Rinse und Flux und Jamalskiii. > >10-4, >duh, >max > >On Thu, 20 May 1999 WizardCCCA@aol.com wrote: > > > Yup yup... they are on the flier! > > > > Liz > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 03:00:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20977 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 03:00:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 20959 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 03:00:51 -0000 Received: from f152.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.31) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 03:00:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 67803 invoked by uid 0); 21 May 1999 03:00:24 -0000 Message-ID: <19990521030024.67802.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.214.26 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 20 May 1999 20:00:24 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.214.26] From: "Rani Skye Lefevre" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: So who is going to children of the sun this friday? Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 20:00:24 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i am! i am! my friends and i bought our tickets today. are we gonna meet at the water at 1? love, rani >From: "Matt@warmth.org" >To: "*warmth* discussion list" , >Subject: So who is going to children of the sun this friday? >Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:41:11 -0700 > >So who is going to children of the sun this friday? It is going to be an >awsome party! Very underground! some special chill room sets that will >touch you forever!!!!!!!!!! > > >Matt > >So come out and support out friends that provide the free fruit! > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 03:05:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25114 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 03:05:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 25105 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 03:05:18 -0000 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 03:05:18 -0000 Received: from tigger (dynamic10.pm08.sf3d.best.com [209.24.235.202]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id UAA05109 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 20:05:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990520200234.00af0ee0@pplus.shell16.ba.best.com> X-Sender: broo51-mike@pplus.shell16.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 20:11:07 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Mike Galetto Subject: Faith's Star Wars Galaxy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a galaxy far far away... existed the likes of Jedi Ruben Jedi Blackstone and Jedi Tracer We bring you these top Jedi Dj's tonight at Faith's Star Wars galaxy! Immerse yourself in the Force tonight. Club Faith 9:30 til 3am - http://www.blackstone-productions.com/faith/ Mike Galetto Faith Family Have a little **FAITH** http://www.blackstone-productions.com/faith/ mike@blackstone-productions.com mike@sfclubs.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 04:00:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21514 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 04:00:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 21487 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 04:00:45 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 04:00:45 -0000 Received: from BBoiBreks@aol.com (14370) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id tCHWa10786; Thu, 20 May 1999 23:59:17 -0400 (EDT) From: BBoiBreks@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 23:59:17 EDT Subject: Re: NRR Star Wars To: akp2@duke.edu CC: jgoldberg@dand.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, George Lucas was at the Village where i work today while I was on break and I got to sit with him while he ate his hotdog from Chicago Hotdog at the Food Court. He invited me and my co worker over to talk to him. We didn't talk about the film but we talked about Amanda. so hahaha. Then he said "It was nice talking to you. See you at the theatre." adn heleft. i kept the foil that wrapped his hotdog as a momento. Then I chased after him while he went into Nordstom and lurked behind the ficus trees hoping ot pick up...well, actually steal a souvenier, then he called security on me and had me dragged out of the mall, but without a fight. I was fortunate enough to grag a few of his beard hairs. the trekkie (yes star trek) poser bboibreks From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 04:06:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24739 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 04:06:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 24728 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 04:06:07 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?2+bimyyxwnlAKSp7xzGc/fc5xOODPw1k?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 04:06:07 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id VAA11608 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 21:06:06 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 21:06:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR Star Wars and lucas souvenirs. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Dude you think you are hardcore. I was at this multi-media trade show and Lucas was there and I saran wrapped the inside of the toilet he was waiting to use with little holes so the pee would drain out, and when he was finished I retrieved the fresh turdz! Straight from his crazee azz! Straight up! just another turd in a jar in my collection! Big up to me! 10-4, duh, max On Thu, 20 May 1999 BBoiBreks@aol.com wrote: > Well, George Lucas was at the Village where i work today while I was on break > and I got to sit with him while he ate his hotdog from Chicago Hotdog at the > Food Court. He invited me and my co worker over to talk to him. We didn't > talk about the film but we talked about Amanda. so hahaha. Then he said "It > was nice talking to you. See you at the theatre." adn heleft. i kept the foil > that wrapped his hotdog as a momento. Then I chased after him while he went > into Nordstom and lurked behind the ficus trees hoping ot pick up...well, > actually steal a souvenier, then he called security on me and had me dragged > out of the mall, but without a fight. I was fortunate enough to grag a few of > his beard hairs. > > the trekkie (yes star trek) poser > bboibreks > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 04:45:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13290 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 04:44:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 13264 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 04:44:55 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 04:44:55 -0000 Received: from Tekno313@aol.com (529) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3LBCa10566 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 00:43:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Tekno313@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 00:43:38 EDT Subject: **(bsp)Pacific Party @ Jellies** To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Friday Night @ Jellies, there will be a pacific party at Jellies, once again. All D&B massive hold tight: Phunkatech crew will be in full effect as well! Pacific, 5.21.99 @ Jellies DJ's Yard: Marc Anthony[movin on up] Galen[pacific] Monty Luke[justice league] Markie Mark[wicked] Candlelite: Phunkatech Crew UFO Noel Abstract $5 before 11, $10 after. Jellies is at Pier 50, China Basin. Please dial the Pacific info line at 415.292.3240 for more information... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 04:49:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16125 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 04:49:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 16112 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 04:49:07 -0000 Received: from mail.cruzio.com (root@208.226.92.37) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 04:49:07 -0000 Received: from preferred-user (sa-165-227-129-39.cruzio.com [165.227.129.39]) by mail.cruzio.com with ESMTP id VAA24329; Thu, 20 May 1999 21:49:00 -0700 (PDT) From: toma@inetone.net To: "Justin Hale" , , Cc: Subject: RE: Im confused Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 21:51:21 -0700 Message-ID: <001c01bea345$929d3600$2b82e3a5@preferred-user> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <19990520155154.78599.qmail@hotmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just read the e-mail below and it illustrates just how much a great thing can get eaten up by the nature of the capitalistic system we are all a part of. In the spirit of making a change (furreel) I would like to volunteer myself to creating some thing that represents the best of what we love, and provides for itself....without sellin' out. ( gotta do somethin' with this almost B.S. degree) What exactly that means for the dance scene, i do not know, as I don't come from the dance scene but it is opportunity to make a difference. (maybe some of you are already making a differnce). If anybody has ideas to contribute and/or has a plan for makin' something... drop me an e-mail toma > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of Justin Hale > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 1999 8:52 AM > To: rayvonie@ix.netcom.com; WWoodliff@aol.com > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: Im confused > > > let's not forget the Wicked/Full Moon/ComeUnity Crew(s). we > called them the > 'english' parties back in the day... > > justin hale > > >From: Ray Vonie > >To: WWoodliff@aol.com > >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: Im confused > >Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 00:56:53 -0700 > > > >JonPaul, It's to bad, because you have it all backwards. Promoters who > >have > >been integral on the influence and the direction of the > development of this > >scene, such as CWP are hardly exploiting anything, since they have been > >around > >since the beginning, and laid the foundation for this scene. They are > >just > >doing what they have always done, which is playing out their role within > >the > >scene that they helped create. CWP has done more for this scene than > >most > >people who consider them selves "in the know" will ever be aware > of. Only > >a few > >people, were there on the front lines, making the ground braking > moves that > >set > >the tone and direction of today's scene. You can't run away from the > >inherent > >influences that groups like CWP have institutionalized into the > fabric and > >mentality of today's scene. Props must be given where they are due. > > Of all groups that have worked from day one, from the very first > >generation of the bay area scene, only 3 are still active, and have been > >continuously active in this scene. These groups are The > Gathering, Cool > >World, > >and Feel Good. It is every other promoter that has come since > them that > >has > >exploited and capitalized upon THEIR efforts, and accomplishments. > >Someone > >had to do it first, and if you trace any part of this scene back to it's > >origin, > >you are sure to end up with one of these 3 groups as the ones > who actually > >did do > >it all first. I know this because I was there, every step of the way. > > It's a shame that with so many people in this scene, who supposedly > >care and > >love it so much, not a damn one of them really knows how things "Really" > >happened, and who is responsible for most of which today is > overlooked, and > >taken > >for granted. Someday, I'm gona write a book, and tell-all on how this > >scene > >went from a bunch of drug dealers throwing parties, to a dance culture > >based on > >positive beliefs, and who was responsible for most of it, and > then, people > >may > >finally realize just how 'out of the loop' they were, even though they > >though > >they knew it all. > > > >Keep it mellow, Vlad > > > >WWoodliff@aol.com wrote: > > > > > PLEASE!!!! > > > > > > The only reason you can say this is that CWP is the > only people > >in > > > the S.F. scene who have done more to exploit the culture then > you have. > >I > > > don't mean for you to take this as a negative attack against you. I > >have all > > > the respect in the world for what you have been able to > accomplish with > >FGE. > > > But you have exploited the hell out of the seen. You attacked it in a > > > business like matter and have done very well. > > > > > > CWP on the other hand has taken it to a whole other > level yes, a > > > whole other level of depravity. They might as well call > themselves the > >Bill > > > Graham Presents of the rave scene. They do not care about the scene > >they > > > have done very little to nothing to promote what is good and genuine > >about > > > the scene. They are strictly there for the money. You know > this I know > >this > > > and any body who pays attention should know this. They do not throw > >Raves > > > they through massive concerts with over 15,000 people looped out of > >there > > > mind on everything from crystal to LSD. Think about it, > Think about how > >hard > > > it is to control a crowd that big when most of the people are somewhat > > > "sober," and the ones who aren't are mostly adults. Now switch that > >around, > > > most of the people are anything but sober, on many different types of > >drugs > > > and they are mostly kids, 12,13,14, year old kids. It is > shit like this > >that > > > makes the public take notice. > > > > > > You call them responsible because they have permits. > What they > >do > > > is anything but responsible. Having that many people > partying like that > >and > > > thinking you have it under control not responsible. Specifically > >targeting > > > kids 13-17 years old kids is not responsible (sound familiar). > > > > > > I know someone out there is going to cry out "Ohh, > but they are > > > helping to further expose the world to the beautiful world of dance > >music" > > > Complete bullshit!!! All they are doing is taking advantage > of what is > >there > > > and milking it until it is dry. Ask yourself "Do I really think they > >would > > > be doing this if the money was not there" The answer my friend is No. > >And the > > > negitve attention they get through news media only makes it > harder for > >the > > > rest of us who do care and are out ther working our asses off. > > > > > > PS Please no one think that I was lumping Vlad or FGE > in with my > > > views on CWP. I may not agree with a lot of his promoting > practices but > > > until he proves other wise I still would like to believe that he > >genuinely > > > dose care about SF dance culture and his heart is in the > right place. I > >just > > > don't understand how he could have such a positive view on such a huge > > > blemish to our scene. > > > > > > Much Love; JonPaul > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 05:09:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22146 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 05:09:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 22125 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 05:08:58 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 05:08:58 -0000 Received: from Gammbino@aol.com (14365) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vXFIa02623 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 01:08:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Gammbino@aol.com Message-ID: <3bd51698.2476443a@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 01:08:10 EDT Subject: "paging DJ CAINE" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey everyone sorry for the dayum SPAM but this is important...DJ Caine if your out there can you please E-mail me cause I have a question about "Love Affair" thanks Much PLUR Kent From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 05:32:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27913 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 05:32:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 27879 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 05:32:33 -0000 Received: from m1.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.199) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 05:32:33 -0000 Received: (from burnout777@juno.com) by m1.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EA5BMFNP; Fri, 21 May 1999 01:32:17 EDT To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 22:23:01 -0700 Subject: Technics 1200s/Vestax mixer 4 sale Message-ID: <19990520.222302.-1034263.6.burnout777@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-7,9-10,12-16 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Jim E." Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk whats up, unfortunately i have to sell my whole setup so here's the rundown: 1 black technics 1200 in mint condition - $450 1 grey 1200 in good condition - $340 1 vestax PMC-03A 2 channel mixer also in mint condition - $110 1 pair Sony MDR-7506 headphones, mint - $85 the black 1200's, the mixer and the headphones are all almost new. only 7 months old. the tables have slipmatts and stanton mark v needles. paid $1150 for everything. i'm asking $900 for the whole dilly. no sales tax! email and we'll talk. jim or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 05:41:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1268 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 05:41:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 1259 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 05:41:38 -0000 Received: from www.red1.com (HELO q.internetcity.com) (207.153.6.82) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 05:41:38 -0000 Received: by q.internetcity.com from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 20 May 1999 23:40:51 -0600 Received: by q.internetcity.com from q [207.153.3.171] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 20 May 1999 23:40:50 -0600 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 23:40:50 -0700 From: "mysticfarie.candycanelane" X-Mailer: EMURL 2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Whoa... Message-ID: <052099234050.0.13@mail.flairmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Whoa damn. I leave for the day and I come back and my email is overflowing... whoa... I feel so loved. =) -Holly =) "Every man has his own destiny: the only imperative is to follow it, to accept it, no matter where it leads him." -Henry Miller, The Wisdom of the Heart- Get your FREE, Fun Email at http://www.flairmail.com At Flairmail, we have more domains for you to choose from than any other Web-Based Email service provider. Come take a look, we're sure to have some you like. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 06:02:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7480 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 06:02:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 7347 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 06:02:44 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 06:02:44 -0000 Received: from Kalika1196@aol.com (8000) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id gQLAa02682; Fri, 21 May 1999 02:01:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Kalika1196@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 02:01:49 EDT Subject: Re: So who is going to children of the sun this friday? To: matt@warmth.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i will definately be there! sounds like its going to be a great party, cant wait! love, hugs, and vapor rub, trisha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 06:14:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13536 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 06:14:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 13329 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 06:14:07 -0000 Received: from web120.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.121) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 06:14:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19990521061455.25049.rocketmail@web120.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.54.100] by web120.yahoomail.com; Thu, 20 May 1999 23:14:55 PDT Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 23:14:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: We Got The Funk To: SF Raver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk And I got my ticket. =Þ whoever is going, see ya there. =D *HUGZ* pat Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 06:43:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22668 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 06:43:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 22654 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 06:43:07 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 06:43:07 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (88) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id xUDKa15953; Fri, 21 May 1999 02:41:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 02:41:56 EDT Subject: ATTENTION all u up and coming JUNGLE DJ'S... To: sf-jungle@saturn5.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i got this message straight from the kidz at compound... DJ Rinse asked me to tell all u aspiring up and coming jungle DJ's who are looking to play out and havent gotten that chance to drop off a tape to Compound Records. doing so u guys will get a chance to participate in the Bass Kru's new event ***Tommy Gun***....the 1st party happens sometime in june i believe with a cool line up of new and OG junglist alike. lets support this and check it out. also dont forget u Jungle DJ's out there...make sure u guys Drop Off That Tape to Compound Records located on 6 Valencia St. off of Market St. do the best u can on this tape....hard work pays off.... DJMEGATRON:mechasoul ps...im gonna give them my tape too....cuz we all in the same gang...word!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 06:59:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27644 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 06:59:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 27565 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 06:59:13 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 06:59:13 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA07456; Thu, 20 May 1999 23:59:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905210659.XAA07456@mail.netwiz.net> To: "W. P. Risenhoover" Cc: "San FranDisco Ravers List" Subject: Re: a question In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 20 May 1999 19:11:21 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 23:59:04 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > try Imperial Dub recordings... you can hear it online with RealAudio by > following this link... > > http://www.x-radio.com/xradcgi/title.cgi?sku=IDR016CD Mark Farina is one of my favorite DJ's, however, imperial dub recordings is one of his WORST -- for me, totally uninspiring, and a big yawn. i like his new one on "united dj's of america" and also "seasons one" and also enjoy his "mushroom jazz" CD's (i have vol. 2 (downtempo) and vol. 1, as well). I actually happened to be listing to "seasons one" whe i saw this message. w/r/t other recommendations, check some of the following comps available from amazon. "Body & Soul Vol. 1" Francois Kevorkian et al. "DJ Marques Wyatt" compilation CD. "Roger Sanchez Maximum House & ... [IMPORT]" =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 07:06:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 822 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 07:06:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 811 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 07:06:31 -0000 Received: from mail5.sirius.com (205.134.253.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 07:06:31 -0000 Received: from hernancz (ppp-asok08--174.sirius.net [205.134.245.174]) by mail5.sirius.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA73864; Fri, 21 May 1999 00:06:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <037901bea34a$ffb1c3a0$25f586cd@hernancz> Reply-To: "Good Sounds" From: "Good Sounds" To: "SFraves peeps" , "diox-list@diox." Subject: (NRR) 12 volt lighting Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 22:30:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone used 6 or 12 volt lights for lighting? The wiring and locating suitable lights are not an issue. I was just hoping someone had expierience that would save me time and frustration. We are a street theater troupe that uses a tour bus to move the audience from site to site. We have tried fire buckets and road flares but we dont have the time to properly train volunteers in fire control. Being a techie I find myself driveing home late at night with only brake lights to keep me company. I must say that some of todays car and truck lights are impressive little light shows(okay, maybe I work really long late hours) I believe I can put on a good show with just brake lights. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 07:24:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8900 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 07:24:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 8891 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 07:24:46 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 07:24:46 -0000 Received: from Ezzm@aol.com (14384) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rWUYa06484; Fri, 21 May 1999 03:23:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Ezzm@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 03:23:13 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: Chain Letter Humor To: montereypat@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Some one on this list is cool . . . It's you! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 07:39:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12942 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 07:39:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 12926 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 07:39:16 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 07:39:16 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com (14456) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id fMVDa02603; Fri, 21 May 1999 03:38:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: <7838b1b0.2476677a@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 03:38:34 EDT Subject: Re: Cyberfest To: lukkypunk@earthlink.net, lesleymo@sco.com CC: BigM009@aol.com, william@nettwerk.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just to let you all know Everyone is confirmed and it should be a great production! I know Im going to be there, Its time for Coolworld to get something back for all their hard work over the years and the blood and sweat they have had to deal with. I have a great feeling about it this time. They have been working VERY hard and its time for them to shine again. I have been there since the beginning and I know that the vision they have had is happening for them now! This is where they have always wanted to go. A huge festival with much diversity. Where everyone can gather for a common goal. MUSIC!!!!! I wish some of you REALLY knew the person behind this and his hopes and dreams. Sometimes people are Misunderstood by others! I sometimes find myself giggling at some comments that are made about them! If you only really knew the passion that Coolworld has and the artist behind the name. I hope it goes off! Im sure it will! I have been waiting for a concert like this for way to long! Im glad I don't have to go to the UK to get it!!! Im glad it has finally reached the bay Area. I just wanted to share my thoughts about this issue! Take care and have a wonderful day! HuGs*** Jeannie =) In a message dated 5/20/99 3:55:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, lukkypunk@earthlink.net writes: << This does look a bit dodgy judging from the site, but I know for a fact from the Chem Bros manager and some of my friends at Astralwerks that they are confirmed to appear at the Santa Clara Fairgrounds on July 10. Whether it's going to be a festival or yet another "electronica" concert remains to be seen. Peace, Chris >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 07:46:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15174 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 07:46:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 15164 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 07:46:29 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 07:46:29 -0000 Received: from GIANNI3333@aol.com (14425) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vTLEa06834 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 03:45:11 -0400 (EDT) From: GIANNI3333@aol.com Message-ID: <1e46aae6.24766906@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 03:45:10 EDT Subject: These guys are GREAT SUPPORT THEM!!!!!"PLEASE" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi everyone GIANNI here. I don't usually plug parties but I feel that this is a great exception. First let me tell you why, Almost every rave that I've gone to these guys (CHILDREN OF THE SUN) have a booth set up. They don't get paid anything at all, instead the give away free fruit and juice. Now most of you might think, So What, big deal! But it is a big deal and they truly (I believe) have their hearts in the right place. So it is my recommendation that everybody supports such a group of people who do so much for the scene. And next time you grab a free piece of fruit thank them, I'm sure they'll appreciate it. Thanks and take care. GIANNI:0) P.S. they have a good lineup too!!!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 11:19:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1499 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 11:19:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 1330 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 11:19:20 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 11:19:20 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.235] (libya-235.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.235]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA25980; Fri, 21 May 1999 04:19:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 04:42:30 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Fri) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello...today's quote is... Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage. ---Anais Nin ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 11:41:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8408 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 11:41:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 8399 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 11:41:27 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 11:41:27 -0000 Received: from Pogobee@aol.com (8017) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPXAa01220 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 07:40:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Pogobee@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 07:40:56 EDT Subject: Progress and Faith reviews... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk greetings strange people! the past two night i've emmersed myself into clubs. Wednesday and thursday nights have become the night to catch some of the best local djs spinning trance, and house music. i can't even begin to tell you how amazingly fun the past two night have been! first off: Progress. small venue. wonderful people. kick ass trance. every wednesday i'm there i feel like i'm entering a UG. only problem is it's becoming fairly popular. if you people want to experience a tight vibe of great people, you have to check it soon! second: Faith. this club originally played alot of house. lately Blackstone and his crew have been embracing trance. tonight Blackstone and Tracer gave the people what they wanted, TRANCE!!!! the entire club was decked out in homage to Star Wars. somehow the Faith people got Princess Leia to show up. i called her Chewbaca and she used the darkside of the force to restrain me outside. it's all good though, my jedi mind trick got me back inside dancing. :) there were soooo many wonderful people that i haven't seen in months there last night. yanno, i think i've noticed an increase of people whenever Tracer (i'll go out on a limb and call him the *resident trance* dj) spins. hmmmm... hopefully we can expect to see him on a regular basis. anyhow... these two clubs are definately worth going to. support them, they're only here for us. i couldn't imagine losing either one of them. were no longer just limited to the perpetual 2nd&jackson parties. we have choices! -- pogo - the eversober ps: thank you Curry and Mike for all your help tonight!!! :) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 11:57:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12314 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 11:57:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 12306 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 11:57:22 -0000 Received: from smtp2.stanford.edu (171.64.14.23) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 11:57:22 -0000 Received: from [171.64.186.81] (tedmcguire.Stanford.EDU [171.64.186.81]) by smtp2.Stanford.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3/L) with ESMTP id EAA06820; Fri, 21 May 1999 04:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: emcguire@pobox2.stanford.edu Message-Id: Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 04:57:08 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Ted McGuire Subject: KEEP THE FAITH (review) Cc: absolut-rave@lists.stanford.edu Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Dear lovely ravers... Happy friday to you all... hope everyone had fun last night. FAITH WAS DA BOMB! dj tracer had the tightest two hour set ya'll!! Thanks Mike! Despite the clubiness, there was still plenty of that pluree vibe goin on and we had such a rad time that we had to rush home and write to all of you beautiful people. It's nice to hear some good... GREAT... trance played at a gay club finally!!! Mad props to Blackstone for his tight set and for getting tracer. HOPE TO SEE MORE OF HIM in the FUTURE!! For everybuddy who did miss it, make sure you come back to see dj drc in two weeks... just check on the faith website.. for details and a complete summer lineup! hope ryan,jeffy,jason,jon,simon,and all the rest of our hommies all had lots of fun... CHEERS AND HUGS Teddee&Brian=) p.s. See you all at children of the sun!! it's gonna ti-ight!! _______________________________________ Ted McGuire Junipero PO Box 14429, Stanford, CA 94309 650-497-6195 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 12:35:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25958 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 12:35:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 25948 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 12:35:13 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 12:35:13 -0000 Received: from FReShKiD7@aol.com (3941) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vKJKa10786 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 08:34:06 -0400 (EDT) From: FReShKiD7@aol.com Message-ID: <1c91ef7c.2476acbd@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 08:34:05 EDT Subject: *~oO F A I T H Oo~* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 86 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk YAY !! thats all i have to say , good trance on a THURSDAY and for free ! Mike (TIGBOI23 ) ...I hope you get more trance on thursday ! And TracerMike i hope you start spinning more trance at faith as well ! i never wanna go there because its usualy borring .. but if there's Good trance then its worth it . And no icky people strumped in every direction and corner of the room either. I like it when you can actualy Breath and Dance comfortabley !! well off to bed , had 1 to many drinks and whatever else it was... Hmm ok Night e night Daevid.... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 15:31:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6587 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 15:31:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 6561 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 15:31:13 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 15:31:13 -0000 Received: from WWoodliff@aol.com (541) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vEPDa01450 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:30:31 -0400 (EDT) From: WWoodliff@aol.com Message-ID: <43e093dd.2476d617@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:30:31 EDT Subject: NEED HELP W/ ONLINE RECORD STORES To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Please help my AOL account just erased all of my web addresses so now I have none if someone could please send me a list of good online record stores I would be grateful as it would save me a hell of a lot of time in trying to search them out myself. Thanks Much Love JonPaul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 15:38:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13262 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 15:38:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 13254 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 15:38:46 -0000 Received: from web707.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.27) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 15:38:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19990521153644.10057.rocketmail@web707.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.242.20.101] by web707.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 21 May 1999 08:36:44 PDT Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 08:36:44 -0700 (PDT) From: mike bolger Subject: Re: a question To: "Niels P. Mayer" , "W. P. Risenhoover" Cc: San FranDisco Ravers List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > Mark Farina is one of my favorite DJ's, however, > imperial dub recordings is > one of his WORST -- for me, totally uninspiring, and > a big yawn. i like his > new one on "united dj's of america" and also > "seasons one" and also enjoy > his "mushroom jazz" CD's (i have vol. 2 (downtempo) > and vol. 1, as well). I > actually happened to be listing to "seasons one" whe > i saw this message. if you can find it, Basic Foods 7 & 8 ((it's a single 100min tape)) is Mark Farina at his finest. really mellow, but at the same time head-thumping music, like super-mario bros on slow motion. > > w/r/t other recommendations, check some of the > following comps available > from amazon. > > "Body & Soul Vol. 1" Francois Kevorkian et al. > "DJ Marques Wyatt" compilation CD. > "Roger Sanchez Maximum House & ... [IMPORT]" > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) > http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << > >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 > 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 15:42:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16215 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 15:42:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 16061 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 15:42:20 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 15:42:20 -0000 Received: from DNGRBOY9@aol.com (2614) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vIPQa02054; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:40:50 -0400 (EDT) From: DNGRBOY9@aol.com Message-ID: <587b7e24.2476d880@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:40:48 EDT Subject: Re: BT @ CYBERFEST? To: WizardCCCA@aol.com, BreAthNYoO@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/20/1999 4:59:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, WizardCCCA@aol.com writes: << up yup... they are on the flier! >> I think you mean HE. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 15:47:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20573 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 15:47:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 20517 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 15:47:11 -0000 Received: from f127.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 15:47:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 7637 invoked by uid 0); 21 May 1999 15:46:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990521154644.7636.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 21 May 1999 08:46:44 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: NEXXUS19@aol.com, Kitana3737@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Good House CD Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 08:46:44 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well I suggest Dave Angel's 39 flavours of Tech Funk It is some of the best Tech house you will hear It will make you jack your body. It gets kind of "Technoish" at some points so it may be a little slow if you are hypnotized by gurl trance.. But all and all it is a Good CD I dig it.. see ya, Macadio >From: NEXXUS19@aol.com >To: Kitana3737@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: a question >Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 22:02:12 EDT > >Cassius "1999"- i cant stop moving when i listen to it > > >-Lauren From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 16:02:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29999 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 16:02:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 29989 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 16:02:22 -0000 Received: from jeter.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 16:02:22 -0000 Received: from godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.43]) by jeter.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id LAA08822; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:59:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id LAA18043; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:59:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:59:30 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu To: DjShUbErT@aol.com cc: Kandehata@aol.com, Kitana3737@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: a question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i'll agree. any of the united dj's series cd's you are going to love (doc martin, mark farina, jeno, frankie bones, taylor, lalala). also, try the halo/angel alanis "musik box". the intro is great and it's got some great house tracks the whole way through (sorry i'm not soo good at describing sub-genres.) also, pretty much anythin gyou find by mark farina is going to be great. try either the mushroom jazz or seasons one. they are the kind of house thats more mellow but makes your booty want to groove. and has anyone heard more about how doc martin is doing? much love, amber On Thu, 20 May 1999 DjShUbErT@AOL.COM wrote: > > Derrick Carter's Cosmic Disco > Roger Sanchez : United Djs of America > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 16:06:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4356 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 16:06:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 4335 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 16:06:44 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd128.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 16:06:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 35272 invoked by uid 0); 21 May 1999 16:06:16 -0000 Message-ID: <19990521160616.35271.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.251.193.13 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 21 May 1999 09:06:16 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.251.193.13] From: "ve anne" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: damn greedy DJs Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 16:06:16 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk they don't tell you how fun it is mixin' slicin' nipple tweekin' breakbeat boom cha-ka wa-ka boom cut cut slam fuckin around with the records cause then you'll all want to be a dj too :) gaad! talk about intense fun!!!! :) caffeine From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 16:07:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5245 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 16:07:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 5199 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 16:07:19 -0000 Received: from pohl.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 16:07:19 -0000 Received: from godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.43]) by pohl.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id MAA19894; Fri, 21 May 1999 12:01:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA18245; Fri, 21 May 1999 12:01:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 12:01:23 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu To: DjShUbErT@aol.com cc: Kandehata@aol.com, Kitana3737@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: a question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk oh and i forgot! the mark farina remix of imperial dub recordings is the best! i think it was released a while ago, and they might have another one out mixed by doc martin now, but it's got all your favorite dubtribe tracks mixed superbly (including "we used to dance all night, all night!") much love, amber --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 16:10:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7093 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 16:10:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 7085 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 16:10:30 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 16:10:30 -0000 Received: from ShockVibe@aol.com (7819) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vOLKa02575 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 12:09:42 -0400 (EDT) From: ShockVibe@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 12:09:41 EDT Subject: BSP:*Static*Cling*Presents*FaZe*May21st.* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk May 21st - Static Cling productions presents: ***********(((((((((((((((FaZe)))))))))))))))*********** Main Room: Oboro Records, Tracy, Tao, E.T.I. 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Info line: 707.325.0340 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 16:18:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12854 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 16:18:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 12844 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 16:18:12 -0000 Received: from f22.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.202) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 16:18:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 54910 invoked by uid 0); 21 May 1999 16:17:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990521161744.54909.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 21 May 1999 09:17:44 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: CD review (Eric Spire Transitions) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 09:17:44 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well I had the pleasure of picking up Eric Spires Demo CD and it is downright good stuff. It is kind of hard to explain house it is not to fast and "Go Off" and not too slow and chill. It is like right in the middle and keeps you stuck. I guess the right words would be very tracky housetrancy. Some old stuff some new stuff. A lot of records with the kind of stuff I have been buying lately real moody house. He even drops a old slip and slide record "Were all in the same family" I thought I was one of the only peeps that still had that record!! Worth getting if you like Trackytrancyfunkyshakeyourasswakeuptheneighborhoodhouse. And it was on 3 decks to boot!! that is some hard shit yo!! see ya, Macadio From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 16:19:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13783 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 16:19:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 13768 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 16:19:32 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 16:19:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19990521160225.7753.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.170.3.165] by web1; Fri, 21 May 1999 09:02:25 PDT Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 09:02:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Joaqman Subject: house cds To: Kitana3737@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk two of my classics are united dj's of america lil louie vega ( <----the reason is use a lollipop head-fone ) unlock the house on moonshine by doc ( <----the reason i do this ) also honorable mention goes to the steve loria / mark lewis dbl cd that was put out in '94 or '95 those are my fav's, joaqman ---Kitana3737@aol.com wrote: > > any suggestion for the must-have house cd of all time? i`m looking for that > make-your-ass-move-you-can`t-help-but-smile-when-you-hear-it type... u know? > i *love* armand van helden`s "you don`t know me" if that`ll help in any > suggestions on an absolute must-have.. :) trying to push my boundaries from > my first love: prog. trance :) okay!! thanks! i have so many in mind but i > gotta *start* somewhere..... :) > > muchlove, > ~*MiCheLLe*~ > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 16:24:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18836 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 16:24:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 18784 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 16:23:53 -0000 Received: from jmail.co.jp (HELO calvin.iac.co.jp) (209.85.120.230) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 16:23:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 20872 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 16:24:03 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO jmail.co.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 May 1999 16:24:03 -0000 From: "Chris" Reply-to: prototype@raveaddict.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 09:24:03 GST -1080 Subject: ProtoTypical Manifesto Message-id: <374588a3.5184.0@jmail.co.jp> X-User-Info: 171.133.216.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Within each human being lies the entity of inner peace. 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From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 16:26:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20927 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 16:26:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 20895 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 16:26:35 -0000 Received: from f44.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.55) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 16:26:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 13195 invoked by uid 0); 21 May 1999 16:26:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990521162605.13194.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 21 May 1999 09:26:05 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: (BSP) Children of the Sun!! Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 09:26:05 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just wanted to send out a little ol BSPPPEEEE about tonight. I have the pleasure of spining and working with a great group of kids.. the COTS kru have the right idea about parties and are on track with what is going on in the scene many of a times they have helped out a number of promoters with there booth or working security or even helping out with Props late night while spilling paint all over our rave carpet :-) They having giving a lot to the scene and I glad to be a part of what they are doing Big ups to them you know ya ruff!! with no further a due the lineup: Micron,Macadio,AndyW,Greg Sandler, Beatseed and rounding out the night is Brad from moontribe Truly a night of good music except for the Bald guy Micron and that hippy AndyW. hehehe you guys know you rock!! See ya tonight, Macadio (FL collective) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 16:29:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22639 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 16:29:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 22629 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 16:29:08 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 16:29:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990521162738.16897.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.170.3.165] by web4; Fri, 21 May 1999 09:27:38 PDT Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 09:27:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Joaqman Subject: Re: CD review (Eric Spire Transitions) To: "Macadio G." , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i completely agree. me and my friends have been wearing eric's cd out since we were lucky enough to get a copy. my favorite parts are when the jeno remix comes on seemingly out of nowhere and drops. also, i love toward the end of the cd that song "ancient tribal drums...." excellent coming home from a party music. excellent clean the house with your headphones on music. excellent get you ready for a party music. excellent music selection, transitions (no pun), and flavor. eric proves to be consistent and talented and interesting (which is a difficult combination to be). yeah, how do you do that 3 turntable stuff???? hope everybody has a GREAT friday and be careful this weekend, your friend till the end, joaqman aka jonas, waiting for 5:30pm.... ---"Macadio G." wrote: > > Well I had the pleasure of picking up Eric Spires Demo CD and it is > downright good stuff. It is kind of hard to explain house it is not to fast > and "Go Off" and not too slow and chill. It is like right in the middle and > keeps you stuck. I guess the right words would be very tracky housetrancy. > Some old stuff some new stuff. A lot of records with the kind of stuff I > have been buying lately real moody house. He even drops a old slip and slide > record "Were all in the same family" I thought I was one of the only peeps > that still had that record!! Worth getting if you like > Trackytrancyfunkyshakeyourasswakeuptheneighborhoodhouse. And it was on 3 > decks to boot!! that is some hard shit yo!! > > see ya, > Macadio > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 16:53:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8421 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 16:53:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 8382 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 16:52:59 -0000 Received: from web804.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 16:52:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19990521165832.21369.rocketmail@web804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.99] by web804.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 21 May 1999 09:58:32 PDT Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 09:58:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: damn greedy DJs@EKLEKTIC To: ve anne , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I know what your sayin ;) damn them they throw beats in your face that make you wanna jump right into the speaker, or right over the decks, and just bite the records spinnin cuz they drive you out of your mind, well thats how i felt last night atleast when Dylan and facs were on the decks, incredible shit. I just feel so sorry for those of you who didnt make it, its ok though, maybe next time. Eklektic went off, bigtime. Im so glad i went. :) yep, caffeine jb --- ve anne wrote: > they don't tell you how fun it is mixin' slicin' > nipple tweekin' breakbeat > boom cha-ka wa-ka boom cut cut slam fuckin around > with the records cause > then you'll all want to be a dj too :) > > gaad! talk about intense fun!!!! > > :) > caffeine > > > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 17:01:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13594 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 17:01:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 13582 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 17:01:41 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 17:01:41 -0000 Received: from Candida29@aol.com (3934) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iIXTa02602; Fri, 21 May 1999 12:58:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Candida29@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 12:58:17 EDT Subject: (NRR)from candy To: gambit_92@hotmail.com, m1k3e2@pacbell.net, MariGalvez@aol.com, Markis1012@aol.com, Milliemck@aol.com, masterp24@hotmail.com, donnamarie48@hotmail.com, madonnar@mindspring.com, Hcjschu@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, Naomi0211@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_d9d94554.2476eaa9_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_d9d94554.2476eaa9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ok, i got 54.55% TOO SAD!!!! love & lollipops, candy --part1_d9d94554.2476eaa9_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-yd03.mx.aol.com (rly-yd03.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.3]) by air-yd04.mail.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Fri, 21 May 1999 03:40:52 -0400 Received: from ewey.excite.com (ewey-rwcmta.excite.com [198.3.99.191]) by rly-yd03.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id DAA24992 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 03:40:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pouch.excite.com ([199.172.152.242]) by ewey.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990521074125.GGW9896.ewey@pouch.excite.com> for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 00:41:25 -0700 From: "AARON BREWER" To: candida29@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Check out Sanity Test Message-Id: <927272450.3855.503@excite.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 00:40:50 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 12.72.49.133 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > From: Jodielundq@aol.com > To: aaron_brewer@excite.com > Subject: Check out Sanity Test > Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 22:30:15 EDT > Message-ID: > > Everyone should check this out. I got a 36.36% insane on it. Sam Click here: > Sanity Test > Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ --part1_d9d94554.2476eaa9_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 17:04:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15516 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 17:04:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 15392 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 17:04:51 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 17:04:51 -0000 Received: from Fiercefigs@aol.com (2615) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vSJTa15563 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 13:04:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Fiercefigs@aol.com Message-ID: <43c03b4.2476ec02@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:04:02 EDT Subject: So many options!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Gee Wiz ** I can't decide what the hell I want to do tonight!! There is so much shit going on !! Don't you agree? But considering my funds at the moment me thinks I will shmooze on over to Maze this evening for some Tribal Techno Trance:) Sounds fricken good I wish I had money for other parties but I am a broke as Biotch and this is free before 10:30:) Anyone going to Maze? If so look for the crazy chick with red hair next to the speaker!! luv Fiona From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 17:17:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22526 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 17:17:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 22518 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 17:17:16 -0000 Received: from web807.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 17:17:16 -0000 Message-ID: <19990521171736.11625.rocketmail@web807.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.60] by web807.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:17:36 PDT Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:17:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: So many options!! To: Fiercefigs@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk YEAH, but wheres the free drum n bass going on tonight, come on guys, there has to be somethin!?? --- Fiercefigs@aol.com wrote: > Gee Wiz ** > I can't decide what the hell I want to do tonight!! > There is so much shit > going on !! Don't you agree? But considering my > funds at the moment me thinks > I will shmooze on over to Maze this evening for some > Tribal Techno Trance:) > Sounds fricken good I wish I had money for other > parties but I am a broke as > Biotch and this is free before 10:30:) Anyone going > to Maze? If so look for > the crazy chick with red hair next to the speaker!! > luv Fiona > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 17:28:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28013 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 17:28:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 28000 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 17:28:43 -0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 17:28:43 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.105] (congo-105.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.105]) by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA26162 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:28:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: echo@mail.wenet.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:29:14 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: je Subject: BSP: MAZE to-night! Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk make your way through it. maze. tonight. 550 barneveld. 415.263.6750 adam x ... sonic groove, ny ... supreme techno ... 1st time in SF since '92 d.a.v.e. the drummer ... live ... liberator crew ... uk ... this is the sheet maya 13 2x4 deaks ... pro soy ... local sonic heroes of the underground henrik rosdahl ... the tribal swede ... simply one of the best djs around 3 rooms ... yes, there will be drum 'n' bass! ... lovely chill room 10 dolla see ya there ... :) justi MAZE: TRIBAL TECHNO TRANCE life is a maze / it is amazing 415.263.6750 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 17:31:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1302 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 17:30:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 1280 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 17:30:54 -0000 Received: from sco.sco.com (132.147.128.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 17:30:54 -0000 Received: from novasco.sco.COM(132.147.178.252) via SMTP by sco.sco.COM, id smtpdAAAa006C1; Fri May 21 10:29:08 1999 Received: from lesleymo.sco.com by novasco.sco.com id aa07677; 21 May 99 10:27 PDT Message-ID: <37459754.15E8D2AD@sco.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:26:44 -0700 From: Lesley Mortell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves Subject: Friday Music Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk For all those with Real audio .... BREAKBEAT SPECIAL Bring on the Breakbeat special. An impressive line-up from the from Metalheadz, Eastside & Fuze Recordings jumps off tonight Friday 21st May. It's the Official 'World of Drum&Bass' album Launch Party that you can sample online from (UK) 9pm-6am, (US Eastern) 4pm-1am, (Sydney) Sat12pm-9pm. Formation Records Presents: GROOVERIDER DJ SS & SHY FX (B2B) BAD COMPANY HYPE & RANDALL (B2B) KENNY KEN & G SQUAD (B2B) JOHN B & MATRIX (B2B) DECODER & SUBSTANCE (B2B) TEKNIQ MCs: GQ, Warren G, Fearless, Vocals by Carla. Break open some Becks and big-up the bass bins, it looks like it's going to be an evening in with the boomin' system. http://www.breakbeat.co.uk/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 17:43:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11003 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 17:43:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 10978 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 17:43:41 -0000 Received: from netcom2.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.108) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 17:43:41 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom2.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id KAA12418; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:43:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:43:31 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Re: damn greedy DJs To: ve anne cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <19990521160616.35271.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk werd. On Fri, 21 May 1999, ve anne wrote: > they don't tell you how fun it is mixin' slicin' nipple tweekin' breakbeat > boom cha-ka wa-ka boom cut cut slam fuckin around with the records cause > then you'll all want to be a dj too :) > > gaad! talk about intense fun!!!! > > :) > caffeine > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 17:44:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11757 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 17:44:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 11747 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 17:44:20 -0000 Received: from web801.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.61) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 17:44:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19990521174808.9325.rocketmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.60] by web801.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:48:08 PDT Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:48:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: CD review (Eric Spire Transitions) To: "Macadio G." , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thanks Theresa for letting me tape your cd, You were right, its awesome, for a d&b head, its nice to hear some house, Your right Mac, its the perfect mix not too fast/slow. Perfect sunday mornin music, lovin it, j --- "Macadio G." wrote: > Well I had the pleasure of picking up Eric Spires > Demo CD and it is > downright good stuff. It is kind of hard to explain > house it is not to fast > and "Go Off" and not too slow and chill. It is like > right in the middle and > keeps you stuck. I guess the right words would be > very tracky housetrancy. > Some old stuff some new stuff. A lot of records with > the kind of stuff I > have been buying lately real moody house. He even > drops a old slip and slide > record "Were all in the same family" I thought I was > one of the only peeps > that still had that record!! Worth getting if you > like > Trackytrancyfunkyshakeyourasswakeuptheneighborhoodhouse. > And it was on 3 > decks to boot!! that is some hard shit yo!! > > see ya, > Macadio > > > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 17:46:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13535 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 17:46:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 13523 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 17:46:40 -0000 Received: from mailgate.cadence.com (158.140.2.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 17:46:40 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.cadence.com (8.8.5/8.6.8) id KAA05848; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub2.Cadence.COM(158.140.128.8) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (mjr-v1.2) id xma927308786.005814; Fri, 21 May 99 10:46:26 -0700 Received: from urbanassault.org (d15814038120 [158.140.38.120]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02757; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:46:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37459C15.2D4CA787@urbanassault.org> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:47:01 -0700 From: Siphon Reply-To: siphon@urbanassault.org Organization: Urban Assault X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves , sf-jungle Subject: Facs and Dylan... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk These guys dropped the maddest tracks. The production on most of those tracks just about made me loose it. Complete inspiration! Brilliant! The bass lines were off the hook. Though the sound system could've been tweaked a bit better to represent the tracks proper, but it was all good! The night was over with before I knew it! Thanks to Compound and Eklektic and all those involved! Mad props to all the heads who came and supported the ones we call Facs and Dylan. It was amazing. Now if I can just get the hell out of this hell hole we call "corporate world" and get back into my studio... I can be happy with a cup of joe and the humming of equipment! ;) Have a splendid weekend, _____________________ S i p h o n Urban Assault [99] info: 408.882.5064 http://www.urbanassault.org From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 17:58:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19927 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 17:58:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 19685 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 17:58:18 -0000 Received: from law2-f202.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.202) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 17:58:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 3559 invoked by uid 0); 21 May 1999 17:57:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990521175751.3558.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 162.93.14.66 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:57:51 PDT X-Originating-IP: [162.93.14.66] From: "CARLOS SOTO" To: siphon@urbanassault.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com Subject: Re: Facs and Dylan... Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 17:57:51 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Though the sound system could've been >tweaked a bit better to represent the tracks proper, i've posted a message to bitch, but... the promoters brought me in to supply more bass for the night, and these two djs were riding the levels so hard with gain that the signal they were sending was severely distorted. Please Djs learn what a proper signal looks like! look at all the blinking lights, they actually mean something! I end up bitching at a lot of djs, and i all i want is for the music to sound its best, so please djs: realize you are the captain of a sound system. learn to use it correctly! ok. im done ranting. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 18:11:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27030 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 18:11:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 26869 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 18:11:01 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 18:11:01 -0000 Received: from BreAthNYoO@aol.com (7995) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vRKOa27309 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 14:10:29 -0400 (EDT) From: BreAthNYoO@aol.com Message-ID: <22ac6147.2476fb69@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 14:09:45 EDT Subject: Good House CD To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk goOd house CD??? MINISTRY OF SOUND... any of them.. pete tong.. :=) todd terry :=) boy george:=) yoshi toshi------ deep dish yeeuhhh. have a great daY . love and lightt.. my eYe is hurting like a son of a bitch.. argh argh.:=*( esS From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 18:14:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1875 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 18:14:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 1699 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 18:14:49 -0000 Received: from mole.slip.net (207.171.193.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 18:14:49 -0000 Received: from [207.171.214.12] (helo=exchange1.vertical.com) by mole.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 10ktom-0002ZE-00 for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:14:48 -0700 Received: by Exchange1.vertical.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:11:17 -0700 Message-ID: From: Monique Whittaker To: "'sfraves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: 12 Monkeys Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:10:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk My apologies if this is old news...but any word on where 12 Monkeys "We Got the Funk" is going to be held? Please tell me its not going to be at Newberry! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 18:25:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11884 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 18:25:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 11873 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 18:25:54 -0000 Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (206.253.129.185) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 18:25:54 -0000 Received: from tar-and-gravel ([206.25.144.218]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id OAA18729; Fri, 21 May 1999 14:25:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990521111037.03886100@shell4.ba.best.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:26:25 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: ry-N Subject: faithFAITHfaithFAITH Cc: oct1faith@aol.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well ... just to add to the list of rave reviews (get it?? rave reviews? haha anyways) of faith last night I'd just like to say it went off and if you werent there you missed out. good house (did I really say that) good trance, cool crowd, lots of room to dance, and NO SHADY PEOPLE I had SOOOOOOO much fun ... thanks to: blackstone (for not playing any cher) tracer jason/jeffy (ma boiz) brian and ted (for not bustin out with TOO much PDA ... unlike on the couch the other night) sarood and jerry (see ... even straight boys can have fun there) princess lay-a and chuckie/eric/david/leo/simon and all the other fabulous cute raver boys check out http://www.Blackstone-productions.com/faith/ for upcoming line ups ... hmmm can you say DRC on June 3rd!!!!! ~ryan ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 18:28:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15006 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 18:28:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 14997 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 18:28:03 -0000 Received: from web806.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 18:28:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19990521182720.24807.rocketmail@web806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.60] by web806.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:27:20 PDT Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:27:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: **(bsp)Pacific Party @ Jellies** To: Tekno313@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk WHos going??? im glad i read this post. i just may see some of you there. hmmm. Jess --- Tekno313@aol.com wrote: > Friday Night @ Jellies, there will be a pacific > party at Jellies, once again. > All D&B massive hold tight: Phunkatech crew will be > in full effect as well! > > Pacific, 5.21.99 @ Jellies > DJ's > Yard: > Marc Anthony[movin on up] > Galen[pacific] > Monty Luke[justice league] > Markie Mark[wicked] > > Candlelite: > Phunkatech Crew > UFO > Noel > Abstract > > $5 before 11, $10 after. Jellies is at Pier 50, > China Basin. Please dial the > Pacific info line at 415.292.3240 for more > information... > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 18:31:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17271 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 18:31:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 17262 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 18:31:18 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 18:31:18 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA19677 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 13:30:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca56-27.ix.netcom.com(209.110.237.219) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma019635; Fri May 21 13:30:14 1999 Message-Id: <4.1.19990521113104.0092b660@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: ascend@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:33:28 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Greg Sandler Subject: Greg Sandler @ Children Of the SUN!!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone! Just wanted to let everyone know that I will be performing @ Children Of the Sun at about 2:30 am tonight. this party is going to be amazing!!! Their last one was the most fun I had at an underground in a long long time! So I hope they can live up to their great rep.! See you on the dance floor! Peace and love, Greg= ) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 19:27:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24018 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 19:27:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 23935 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 19:27:23 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 19:27:23 -0000 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.9.3/8.8.4) id MAA03613; Fri, 21 May 1999 12:27:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199905211927.MAA03613@atari.saturn5.com> Subject: NRR: ASCII star wars... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 12:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Cc: scr@socal-raves.org, goa@party.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Too cool not to share... "star wars" in ASCII text. no, really, "star wars" in ASCII text... http://www.fortunecity.com/tatooine/lucas/339/page1.html -troy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks "I just don't have the discipline to be a hippie" <- Homer J. Simpson From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 19:32:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 481 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 19:32:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 414 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 19:32:33 -0000 Received: from dummy.sirius.com (HELO phat.r8x.net) (root@207.44.194.129) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 19:32:33 -0000 Received: from x-radio.com (toker [192.168.1.19]) by phat.r8x.net (8.8.5/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA31675; Fri, 21 May 1999 12:32:31 -0700 Message-ID: <3745B4F0.E8BE61@x-radio.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 12:33:04 -0700 From: "W. P. Risenhoover" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, nyc-raves@hyperreal.org, mw-raves@hyperreal.org Subject: Earthtones on X-RADIO.COM right now! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Catch the Earthtones crew broadcasting live via RealAudio right now! www.x-radio.com/live.html From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 19:36:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5238 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 19:36:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 5065 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 19:35:54 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 19:35:54 -0000 Message-ID: <19990521192912.15581.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.242] by attach1; Fri, 21 May 1999 12:29:12 PDT Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 12:29:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: RIDE IN NEED:MAZE TONIGHT To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Coming from the East Bay, OAKTOWN!! YOU KNOW! I'm in search of a ride to Maze tonight and a ride home in the morning. I'm psyched to hear my boy EARNIE DEAKS! If any of you havent seen him and my MAYA 13, you have to check it out. What I'm offerring....gas money... toll money.... sexual favors....amazing true to life stories....hell i'll even do a dance. Anyone have room??? PLEASE!!! PRETTY PLEASE!! =)jer === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 20:15:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4332 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 20:15:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 4324 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 20:15:44 -0000 Received: from nytoday.whowhere.com (HELO mc-qout2.whowhere.com) (209.1.236.38) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 20:15:44 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared1-mail.whowhere.com; Fri May 21 13:15:06 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, FReShKiD7@aol.com Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:15:06 -0700 From: "23" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Expiredinmiddle: true X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: *~oO F A I T H Oo~* X-Sender-Ip: 206.111.131.80 Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail (http://www.eudoramail.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hmmm, I thought that _Faith_ brings in trancer DJ's on a somewhat regular basis, I remember not too long ago a lil trance bumper by the name of DRC spinning @ Faith... Keep up da good werk guys, --_Anakin "Stay Connected" Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 20:19:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6383 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 20:19:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 6354 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 20:19:01 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 20:19:01 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (14439) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHCDa26412 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 16:17:41 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <69d75632.24771958@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 16:17:28 EDT Subject: Maze tonight! 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Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 20:20:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7226 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 20:20:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 7217 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 20:20:12 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 20:20:12 -0000 Received: from Candida29@aol.com (3934) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iAFOa15953; Fri, 21 May 1999 16:17:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Candida29@aol.com Message-ID: <51e0d0e6.24771942@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 16:17:06 EDT Subject: NRR-from candy To: gambit_92@hotmail.com, m1k3e2@pacbell.net, MariGalvez@aol.com, Markis1012@aol.com, donnamarie48@hotmail.com, madonnar@mindspring.com, Hcjschu@aol.com, Naomi0211@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i thought this was a cute little thing that you would all get a kick out of!! i came out 52% pure. see told you all i'm an angel!! click here ---->TheSpark.com Purity Test love & lollipops, candy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 20:22:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8556 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 20:22:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 8542 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 20:21:58 -0000 Received: from mail-oak-1.pilot.net (HELO mail01-oak.pilot.net) (198.232.147.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 20:21:58 -0000 Received: from unknown-101-81.adecco.com (unknown-101-81.adecco.com [206.24.101.81] (may be forged)) by mail01-oak.pilot.net with ESMTP id NAA25439 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 13:21:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason.LEE@adecco.com Received: from boxster.hq.adia (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unknown-101-81.adecco.com with SMTP id NAA07995 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 13:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by boxster.hq.adia(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 88256778.006FE99E ; Fri, 21 May 1999 13:22:23 -0700 X-Lotus-FromDomain: US_ADECCO To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <88256778.006FBA42.00@boxster.hq.adia> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:21:56 -0700 Subject: SFraves LAN party Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk how many people on sfraves would be interested in an event of good music and good gibs and good fun? an SFraves LAN party???? anyone anyone? Jason From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 20:23:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9678 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 20:23:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 9501 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 20:23:18 -0000 Received: from mail.healthoutcomes.com (HELO marketing.healthoutcomes.com) (209.24.3.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 20:23:18 -0000 Received: from nngo ([209.24.3.172]) by marketing.healthoutcomes.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-58286U100L2S100V35) with SMTP id AAA291; Fri, 21 May 1999 13:32:14 -0700 Message-ID: <018a01bea3c7$9fcd3dc0$ac0318d1@ssimarkfmt> From: nngo@velos.com (Nick Ngo) To: , "Greg Sandler" References: <4.1.19990521113104.0092b660@popd.ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Greg Sandler @ Children Of the SUN!!!! Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:22:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk uh....where can I find directions to the place and tickets. Thanks in advance. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Sandler To: Sent: Friday, May 21, 1999 11:33 AM Subject: Greg Sandler @ Children Of the SUN!!!! > Hello everyone! > > Just wanted to let everyone know that I will be performing @ Children Of > the Sun at about 2:30 am tonight. this party is going to be amazing!!! > Their last one was the most fun I had at an underground in a long long > time! So I hope they can live up to their great rep.! > > See you on the dance floor! > > Peace and love, > > Greg= ) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 20:48:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28433 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 20:48:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 28420 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 20:48:44 -0000 Received: from f271.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.162) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 20:48:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 94344 invoked by uid 0); 21 May 1999 20:48:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990521204817.94343.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.188.192.59 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 21 May 1999 13:48:16 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.188.192.59] From: "Rani Skye Lefevre" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR-from candy Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:48:16 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk heehee- i'm 56% "pure"... >From: Candida29@aol.com >To: gambit_92@hotmail.com, m1k3e2@pacbell.net, MariGalvez@aol.com, >Markis1012@aol.com, donnamarie48@hotmail.com, madonnar@mindspring.com, >Hcjschu@aol.com, Naomi0211@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: NRR-from candy >Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 16:17:06 EDT > >i thought this was a cute little thing that you would all get a kick out >of!! >i came out 52% pure. see told you all i'm an angel!! > >click here ---->TheSpark.com >Purity >Test > > >love & lollipops, >candy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 20:50:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 611 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 20:50:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 602 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 20:50:36 -0000 Received: from f77.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.183) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 20:50:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 43505 invoked by uid 0); 21 May 1999 20:50:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990521205009.43504.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.188.192.59 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 21 May 1999 13:50:08 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.188.192.59] From: "Rani Skye Lefevre" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: SFraves LAN party Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:50:08 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i'm down! love, rani >From: Jason.LEE@adecco.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: SFraves LAN party >Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:21:56 -0700 > >how many people on sfraves would be interested in an event of good music >and good gibs and good fun? > >an SFraves LAN party???? anyone anyone? > >Jason > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 20:51:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1321 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 20:51:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 1287 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 20:50:57 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 20:50:57 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com (325) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vVASa19886 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 16:49:33 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <83e4507e.247720de@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 16:49:34 EDT Subject: RE: KRR: Over-Protective Parents & Raves To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well, let me say that i know where those of you who have problems with your parents and parties are comming from...... my parents have always been strict, and when i first started partying, not wanting to have to lie about it, and not wanting to give it up, i decided to wait until New Year's eve (since that was a nite that most people were out all nite anyways) to tell them.... i asked them to go to a party that nite like 2 weeks ahead of time, i gave them all the information, phone #'s etc. and i told them how much i liked the music and wanted to go out dancing.... i even offered to have them come or drop me off just so they could see exactly where it was and stuff..... but not only did they not end up letting me go, they wouldn't let me go out at all that nite, and they cancelled their plans to stay home and make sure i didn't leave.... it took me almost a year after that before i tried to tell them about it again... and this time i was honest with them... i said i had been going and that i was going to continue to go even if it meant lying to them.... i explained how important it was to me, and they suprised me and agreed to let me go to this one party.... then it was a struggle, but they eventually let me keep going... and for a while i still hid going to some of the parties from them since they wouldn't have let me go as often as i did.... when i turned 18 this year they finally let up... now i just tell them i'm going and where the party is and if i plan on comming home or staying at a friend's.. if i stay somewhere else, i page my mom when i get there to let her know i'm okay..... i even show them all my pix that i take and tell the rest of my family about parties.... and i show them my videos... by not hidding it from them they feel more comfortable and involved in my life.... parents just worry. i understand that better now, and sometimes they're right.... but i truely believe that it is best to be honest and straight forward with them... given the chance, sometimes they might just suprise you! good luck to all of you who's parents aren't yet letting you party! love and hugs and kisses, tina From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 20:51:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2626 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 20:51:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 2371 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 20:51:34 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 20:51:33 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-188.dsp.com [204.118.76.188]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA04733; Fri, 21 May 1999 13:51:27 -0700 Message-Id: <4.1.19990521134816.009c1d70@wgdsearch.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:49:29 -0700 To: "Rani Skye Lefevre" , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: NRR-from candy In-Reply-To: <19990521204817.94343.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk PLEASE DON'T START all sending in your scores to SFR. Jessica At 01:48 PM 5/21/99 -0700, Rani Skye Lefevre wrote: >heehee- i'm 56% "pure"... > >>From: Candida29@aol.com >>To: gambit_92@hotmail.com, m1k3e2@pacbell.net, MariGalvez@aol.com, >>Markis1012@aol.com, donnamarie48@hotmail.com, madonnar@mindspring.com, >>Hcjschu@aol.com, Naomi0211@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >>Subject: NRR-from candy >>Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 16:17:06 EDT >> >>i thought this was a cute little thing that you would all get a kick out >>of!! >>i came out 52% pure. see told you all i'm an angel!! >> >>click here ---->TheSpark.com >>Purity >>Test >> >> >>love & lollipops, >>candy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 21:00:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10263 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 21:00:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 10249 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 21:00:00 -0000 Received: from web701.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.21) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 21:00:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990521205712.29349.rocketmail@web701.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.242.20.101] by web701.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 21 May 1999 13:57:12 PDT Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:57:12 -0700 (PDT) From: mike bolger Subject: free outdoor daytime party To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk saturday in the city. blue room is doing a free noon-6 party tomorrow before their big party later that night. it's in the same spot as that other free trance drug party earlier this month. not the skills party in the park, but the one a week before with that ccc dj. you know that ground where you can catch hardcore lifer homeless people and willie brown piss on san francisco ? yeah, that spot. Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 21:08:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16256 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 21:08:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 16233 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 21:08:45 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 21:08:45 -0000 Received: from Pogobee@aol.com (14387) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id yOMMa06484; Fri, 21 May 1999 17:07:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Pogobee@aol.com Message-ID: <41e2334f.24772529@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 17:07:53 EDT Subject: Re: SFraves LAN party To: Jason.LEE@adecco.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i'm definately down! i haven't been to a party thrown for the mailing list since the first epiphany. i would love to meet some of the new and familiar faces of the people from the list! i'd also like to see some of the regular djs who post here to spin. they are, after all, part of this mailing.... so c'mon, we all love you guys!!!! --pogo - the everhopeful In a message dated 99-05-21 16:22:05 EDT, Jason.LEE@adecco.com writes: << how many people on sfraves would be interested in an event of good music and good gibs and good fun? an SFraves LAN party???? anyone anyone? >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 21:14:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20909 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 21:14:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 20901 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 21:13:58 -0000 Received: from corpmail1.jps.net (209.63.224.250) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 21:13:58 -0000 Received: from kickass (209-239-194-76.oak.jps.net [209.239.194.76]) by corpmail1.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA25986; Fri, 21 May 1999 14:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <014a01bea3cf$2209add0$77019665@cuhelp.com> From: "Jay" To: , , References: <41e2334f.24772529@aol.com> Subject: Re: SFraves LAN party Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 14:15:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You know I am down Jason =) Love, Music and Gibs, -Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Friday, May 21, 1999 2:07 PM Subject: Re: SFraves LAN party > i'm definately down! > > i haven't been to a party thrown for the mailing list since the first > epiphany. i would love to meet some of the new and familiar faces of the > people from the list! > > i'd also like to see some of the regular djs who post here to spin. they are, > after all, part of this mailing.... so c'mon, we all love you guys!!!! > > --pogo - the everhopeful > > > In a message dated 99-05-21 16:22:05 EDT, Jason.LEE@adecco.com writes: > << how many people on sfraves would be interested in an event of good music > and good gibs and good fun? > an SFraves LAN party???? anyone anyone? >> > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 21:20:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24821 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 21:20:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 24740 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 21:20:24 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 21:20:24 -0000 Received: from Anachra@aol.com (14438) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rOGWa14682; Fri, 21 May 1999 17:18:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Anachra@aol.com Message-ID: <2915529b.2477279d@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 17:18:21 EDT Subject: Re: free outdoor daytime party To: youcantbewhatyouwere@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i could REALLY use better directions than this, please? thanks spacey youcantbewhatyouwere@yahoo.com writes: > saturday in the city. blue room is doing a free noon-6 party tomorrow > before their big party later that night. it's in the same spot as that > other free trance drug party earlier this month. not the skills party > in the park, but the one a week before with that ccc dj. you know that > ground where you can catch hardcore lifer homeless people and willie > brown piss on san francisco ? yeah, that spot. > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 21:33:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4083 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 21:32:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 4061 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 21:32:55 -0000 Received: from firstclass.monterey.edu (HELO mail.monterey.edu) (198.189.5.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 21:32:55 -0000 Message-id: Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 14:31:03 -0700 Subject: Re:KRR: (of course) Over-Protective Parents To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu (Robert Delarosa) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 15 year old children should not be at an all night party where there is lots of drug use. Parents that do not let their children (under 18) go to "Raves" are being good parents. Young people ages 12-16 generally do not have the responsibility or the maturity to be at "raves". But, good parties are so much fun...there lies the dilemma. On a side mote,12-16 year old people have no business doing ecstasy, mushrooms and LSD. If you disagree, you have probably used to much of them when you were 12-16. Sorry to sound like such a gramps but someone has to....... aQ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 21:42:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10062 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 21:42:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 9984 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 21:42:36 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 21:42:36 -0000 Received: from Pogobee@aol.com (14387) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vEWWa02573 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 17:40:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Pogobee@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 17:40:50 EDT Subject: questions about cyberfest99 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk sorry i lost the chain of post for this earlier... i've never seen a flyer with such a powerfully huge names, but i'd like to know a few things from people who've gone to past cyberfests. 1. is it true that cyberfest has a history of djs "canceling" out on them? i've heard rumors they just don't book the djs, but add the name to the flier to sell tickets 2. are the cyberfest parties put together well? or does it seem like a bunch of money hungry people tossed a bunch of big names together in hopes of big bucks? 3. what were previous Santa Clara County Fair Ground parties like, if any? i'm not big on massives and just want to know how low (or hopefully high) my expectations of cyberfest should be. thanks for any infor on this party! --pogo - the everinquisitive From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 21:52:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15136 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 21:52:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 15128 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 21:52:31 -0000 Received: from adsl-216-101-108-121.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO pry.com) (216.101.108.121) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 21:52:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 21039 invoked by uid 501); 21 May 1999 21:58:59 -0000 Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:58:59 -0800 From: Dan Haskovec To: Anachra@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: free outdoor daytime party In-Reply-To: <2915529b.2477279d@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It's at Civic Center Plaza (around 8th & Market). Civic Center BART/MUNI stop if that helps. dan On Fri, 21 May 1999 Anachra@aol.com wrote: > i could REALLY use better directions than this, please? > thanks > spacey > > > youcantbewhatyouwere@yahoo.com writes: > > > saturday in the city. blue room is doing a free noon-6 party tomorrow > > before their big party later that night. it's in the same spot as that > > other free trance drug party earlier this month. not the skills party > > in the park, but the one a week before with that ccc dj. you know that > > ground where you can catch hardcore lifer homeless people and willie > > brown piss on san francisco ? yeah, that spot. > > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 21:53:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15937 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 21:53:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 15916 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 21:53:11 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 21:53:11 -0000 Received: from user (access-50-161.ixpres.com [209.75.50.161]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA03860; Fri, 21 May 1999 14:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990521144811.006c1f80@mail.ixpres.com> X-Sender: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 14:48:11 -0700 To: Jason.LEE@adecco.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: Re: SFraves LAN party In-Reply-To: <88256778.006FBA42.00@boxster.hq.adia> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HELLS YEAH!!! I'd drive up from So Cal to attend!! hugs, madhvi At 01:21 PM 5/21/99 -0700, Jason.LEE@adecco.com wrote: >how many people on sfraves would be interested in an event of good music >and good gibs and good fun? > >an SFraves LAN party???? anyone anyone? > >Jason > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 22:02:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20775 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 22:02:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 20762 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 22:02:41 -0000 Received: from c004-h007.c004.sfo.cp.net (HELO c004.sfo.cp.net) (209.228.14.63) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 22:02:41 -0000 Received: (cpmta 17605 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 15:02:40 -0700 Date: 21 May 1999 15:02:40 -0700 Message-ID: <19990521220240.17604.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> X-Sent: 21 May 1999 22:02:40 GMT Received: from [216.101.167.238] by mail.marijuana.com with HTTP; 21 May 1999 15:02:40 PDT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Taylor X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.0 Subject: Re: SFraves LAN party Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hahahahhahaahhaahhahahhaha hahahahha hahah hohohohohhoho hehehehehehehhahaahhahahaoha muahahahahhaha "LAN party" nerd power! -fragmaster omen --------------------------------------------------------------------- Get your own @Marijuana.Com eMail address -> http://www.Marijuana.Com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 22:05:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21768 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 22:04:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 21760 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 22:04:54 -0000 Received: from mail.healthoutcomes.com (HELO marketing.healthoutcomes.com) (209.24.3.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 22:04:54 -0000 Received: from nngo ([209.24.3.172]) by marketing.healthoutcomes.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-58286U100L2S100V35) with SMTP id AAA116; Fri, 21 May 1999 15:13:50 -0700 Message-ID: <01e301bea3d5$d08fd040$ac0318d1@ssimarkfmt> From: nngo@velos.com (Nick Ngo) To: , References: Subject: Re: questions about cyberfest99 Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 15:03:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In regards to Santa Clara county and everything that's associated with it you can expect a cluster fuck of an event. All events that I attend at Santa Clara County Fairgrounds, always end up in chaos. What we have at Santa Clara: The traffic congestion will be massive. expect a long wait in your car for parking. Parking prices will be outrages. Expect many shady people there. (the area itself is pretty ghetto) Securities are dicks. and the list goes on. Anyway, just my experience with Santa Clara County FG. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, May 21, 1999 2:40 PM Subject: questions about cyberfest99 > sorry i lost the chain of post for this earlier... > > i've never seen a flyer with such a powerfully huge names, but i'd like to > know a few things from people who've gone to past cyberfests. > > 1. is it true that cyberfest has a history of djs "canceling" out on them? > i've heard rumors they just don't book the djs, but add the name to the flier > to sell tickets > > 2. are the cyberfest parties put together well? or does it seem like a bunch > of money hungry people tossed a bunch of big names together in hopes of big > bucks? > > 3. what were previous Santa Clara County Fair Ground parties like, if any? > > i'm not big on massives and just want to know how low (or hopefully high) my > expectations of cyberfest should be. thanks for any infor on this party! > > --pogo - the everinquisitive From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 22:09:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24890 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 22:09:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 24882 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 22:09:51 -0000 Received: from web806.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 22:09:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990521220642.1427.rocketmail@web806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.60] by web806.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 21 May 1999 15:06:42 PDT Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 15:06:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: questions about cyberfest99 To: Nick Ngo , Pogobee@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk besides that they still sell Tab, yuck! --- Nick Ngo wrote: > In regards to Santa Clara county and everything > that's associated with it > you can expect a cluster fuck of an event. All > events that I attend at > Santa Clara County Fairgrounds, always end up in > chaos. > What we have at Santa Clara: > > The traffic congestion will be massive. expect a > long wait in your car for > parking. > Parking prices will be outrages. > Expect many shady people there. (the area itself is > pretty ghetto) > Securities are dicks. > and the list goes on. > > Anyway, just my experience with Santa Clara County > FG. > > Nick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, May 21, 1999 2:40 PM > Subject: questions about cyberfest99 > > > > sorry i lost the chain of post for this earlier... > > > > i've never seen a flyer with such a powerfully > huge names, but i'd like to > > know a few things from people who've gone to past > cyberfests. > > > > 1. is it true that cyberfest has a history of djs > "canceling" out on them? > > i've heard rumors they just don't book the djs, > but add the name to the > flier > > to sell tickets > > > > 2. are the cyberfest parties put together well? or > does it seem like a > bunch > > of money hungry people tossed a bunch of big names > together in hopes of > big > > bucks? > > > > 3. what were previous Santa Clara County Fair > Ground parties like, if any? > > > > i'm not big on massives and just want to know how > low (or hopefully high) > my > > expectations of cyberfest should be. thanks for > any infor on this party! > > > > --pogo - the everinquisitive > > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 22:12:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26090 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 22:12:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 26043 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 22:12:06 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 22:12:06 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (4421) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3DJEa02587; Fri, 21 May 1999 18:10:51 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <622aa947.247733ea@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 18:10:50 EDT Subject: Re: SFraves LAN party To: Sfraves@hyperreal.org CC: sfraves-planners@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk SHouldn't this be the job of sfraves-planners?? Isn't that what the list was created for?? Let's get cracking!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 22:18:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3515 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 22:18:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 3333 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 22:18:15 -0000 Received: from mail-oak-2.pilot.net (HELO mail02-oak.pilot.net) (198.232.147.17) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 22:18:15 -0000 Received: from unknown-101-81.adecco.com (unknown-101-81.adecco.com [206.24.101.81] (may be forged)) by mail02-oak.pilot.net with ESMTP id PAA12050 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 15:18:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason.LEE@adecco.com Received: from boxster.hq.adia (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unknown-101-81.adecco.com with SMTP id PAA14600 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 15:18:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by boxster.hq.adia(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 88256778.007A8ED0 ; Fri, 21 May 1999 15:18:39 -0700 X-Lotus-FromDomain: US_ADECCO To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <88256778.007960F4.00@boxster.hq.adia> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 15:18:10 -0700 Subject: SF Raves GEEK fest 99 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Since most of you all are on this list I'm assuming most of you own PC's, so here's my Idea You provide the PC, all of us provide the fellowship of gaming, good music and good laughs. basicly having a kick ass time....... Here's the Event - Rotating DJ's spin the beats while the rest get beat down in games of QUAKE QUAKE2 QUAKE 3 Arena (Test) MotorCross Madness Need For Speed III SouthPark TRIBES BBQ, chips n dips, drinks, and what ever else your heart desire and whatever other games you can think will work in a multiplayer invironment. What do you need to attend? 1: you have to have a working computer, with all the necessary equipment to play the games 2: a vehicle to get there 3: records to spin if you want to spin, Minidiscs to record your sets if you want 4: Movies and or Super NES games for the not so savy computer people but wish to hang and partake in the vibe Any other idea's would love to hear them... if enough people are interested , I can make it happen but you need to make a shout out!!!!! List of Attendee's begin now, the event will be free, all the electricity you can suck up in a day from your Powerfull PIII's Dependant upon who and how many people are interested will determine the Weekend this event will go down. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 22:25:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10197 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 22:25:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 10144 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 22:25:32 -0000 Received: from firstclass.monterey.edu (HELO mail.monterey.edu) (198.189.5.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 22:25:32 -0000 Message-id: Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 15:23:22 -0700 Subject: Re: SF Raves GEEK fest 99 To: Jason.LEE@adecco.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu (Robert Delarosa) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I hate to be a downer but being a legend in 16 states, Guam, Puerto Rico, the US Virgin Islands and northeastern Canada at Quake and Quake 2 will make in kinda unfair for all you rooks out there........(grin). Jason.LEE@adecco.com writes: >Since most of you all are on this list I'm assuming most of you own PC's, >so here's my Idea > >You provide the PC, all of us provide the fellowship of gaming, good music >and good laughs. >basicly having a kick ass time....... > >Here's the Event - Rotating DJ's spin the beats while the rest get beat >down in games of > >QUAKE >QUAKE2 >QUAKE 3 Arena (Test) >MotorCross Madness >Need For Speed III >SouthPark >TRIBES > >BBQ, chips n dips, drinks, and what ever else your heart desire > >and whatever other games you can think will work in a multiplayer >invironment. What do you need to attend? > >1: you have to have a working computer, with all the necessary equipment >to >play the games >2: a vehicle to get there >3: records to spin if you want to spin, Minidiscs to record your sets if >you want >4: Movies and or Super NES games for the not so savy computer people but >wish to hang and partake in the vibe > >Any other idea's would love to hear them... if enough people are >interested >, I can make it happen but you need to make a shout out!!!!! > >List of Attendee's begin now, the event will be free, all the electricity >you can suck up in a day from your Powerfull PIII's > >Dependant upon who and how many people are interested will determine the >Weekend this event will go down. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 22:28:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11617 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 22:27:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 11522 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 22:27:26 -0000 Received: from mail-oak-2.pilot.net (HELO mail02-oak.pilot.net) (198.232.147.17) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 22:27:26 -0000 Received: from unknown-101-81.adecco.com (unknown-101-81.adecco.com [206.24.101.81] (may be forged)) by mail02-oak.pilot.net with ESMTP id PAA16569; Fri, 21 May 1999 15:27:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason.LEE@adecco.com Received: from boxster.hq.adia (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unknown-101-81.adecco.com with SMTP id PAA14996; Fri, 21 May 1999 15:27:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by boxster.hq.adia(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 88256778.007B6609 ; Fri, 21 May 1999 15:27:50 -0700 X-Lotus-FromDomain: US_ADECCO To: Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu (Robert Delarosa) cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <88256778.007B4785.00@boxster.hq.adia> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 15:27:23 -0700 Subject: Re: SF Raves GEEK fest 99 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk BRING IT ON! oh Quake Master ;) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 22:30:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13322 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 22:30:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 13307 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 22:30:40 -0000 Received: from mail-oak-2.pilot.net (HELO mail02-oak.pilot.net) (198.232.147.17) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 22:30:40 -0000 Received: from unknown-101-81.adecco.com (unknown-101-81.adecco.com [206.24.101.81] (may be forged)) by mail02-oak.pilot.net with ESMTP id PAA18035; Fri, 21 May 1999 15:30:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason.LEE@adecco.com Received: from boxster.hq.adia (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unknown-101-81.adecco.com with SMTP id PAA15109; Fri, 21 May 1999 15:30:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by boxster.hq.adia(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 88256778.007BB2C8 ; Fri, 21 May 1999 15:31:06 -0700 X-Lotus-FromDomain: US_ADECCO To: Cormac Russell cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <88256778.007B7005.00@boxster.hq.adia> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 15:30:41 -0700 Subject: Re: SF Raves GEEK fest 99 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Perhaps, My Riva TNT card can find a home in your case if you have a Pentium PC with AGP support if not..... how about that be a PRIZE to whoever rains Champion in Quake2???? (Only available to US residents, all Jay's / Bloods excluded) sorry Jay ;) Jason Cormac Russell on 05/21/99 03:26:27 PM To: Jason LEE/HQ/US/ADECCO cc: Subject: Re: SF Raves GEEK fest 99 On Fri, 21 May 1999 Jason.LEE@adecco.com wrote: > List of Attendee's begin now, the event will be free, all the electricity > you can suck up in a day from your Powerfull PIII's cool, sounds fun. :) put me on the list. :) Too bad my machine has sucky 3D (mmm software rendermodes) RTG OUT! ..-. -. --- .-. -.. ..-. -. --- .-. -.. ..-. -. --- .-. -.. ..-. -. --- .-. -.. Retch The Grate aka Cormac Russell Amiga, The Computer for The Creative Mind Tolerance, Peace and Love rcormac@occs.cs.oberlin.edu retch@io.com // /\ Vote Discordian Play Traces Of Reality crussell@dtproductions.com \X/ /()\ URL: http://cs.oberlin.edu/students/rcormac/frontdoor.html B5 <*> B5 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 22:35:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15402 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 22:35:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 15385 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 22:35:11 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 22:35:11 -0000 Received: from KaNdeEKlD@aol.com (3956) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPXLa02571 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 18:34:34 -0400 (EDT) From: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 18:34:34 EDT Subject: Re: 12 Monkeys To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 85th and Baldwin!! have fun! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 22:45:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21065 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 22:45:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 21048 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 22:45:08 -0000 Received: from corpmail1.jps.net (209.63.224.250) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 22:45:08 -0000 Received: from kickass (209-239-198-204.oak.jps.net [209.239.198.204]) by corpmail1.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA11089; Fri, 21 May 1999 15:43:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <01b001bea3db$ef534650$77019665@cuhelp.com> From: "Jay" To: , "Cormac Russell" Cc: References: <88256778.007B7005.00@boxster.hq.adia> Subject: Re: SF Raves GEEK fest 99 Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 15:47:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Awwww man!!! Why ?! I am not that good =) FINE then, you will all have to listen to my mixing if I can't play =) hehehehe Love & Music, -Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cormac Russell Cc: Sent: Friday, May 21, 1999 3:30 PM Subject: Re: SF Raves GEEK fest 99 > Perhaps, My Riva TNT card can find a home in your case if you have a > Pentium PC with AGP support > > if not..... how about that be a PRIZE to whoever rains Champion in > Quake2???? (Only available to US residents, all Jay's / Bloods excluded) > > sorry Jay ;) > > Jason > > > > > > > Cormac Russell on 05/21/99 03:26:27 PM > > To: Jason LEE/HQ/US/ADECCO > cc: > Subject: Re: SF Raves GEEK fest 99 > > > > > On Fri, 21 May 1999 Jason.LEE@adecco.com wrote: > > List of Attendee's begin now, the event will be free, all the electricity > > you can suck up in a day from your Powerfull PIII's > > cool, sounds fun. :) put me on the list. :) > Too bad my machine has sucky 3D (mmm software rendermodes) > > RTG OUT! > ..-. -. --- .-. -.. ..-. -. --- .-. -.. ..-. -. --- .-. -.. ..-. -. --- .-. > -.. > Retch The Grate aka Cormac Russell Amiga, The Computer for The Creative > Mind > Tolerance, Peace and Love rcormac@occs.cs.oberlin.edu retch@io.com // > /\ > Vote Discordian Play Traces Of Reality crussell@dtproductions.com \X/ > /()\ > URL: http://cs.oberlin.edu/students/rcormac/frontdoor.html B5 <*> > B5 > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 22:48:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23193 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 22:48:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 23182 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 22:48:21 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?vdZDkuD+ncxa7PNuAr2aEmcih8ck3hTG?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 22:48:21 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id PAA10107 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 15:48:19 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 15:48:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR: Re: SF Raves GEEK fest 99 In-Reply-To: <01b001bea3db$ef534650$77019665@cuhelp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think the SF Raves GEEK fest should definitely be 21+. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 22:49:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24538 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 22:49:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 24525 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 22:49:51 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 22:49:51 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com (8050) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id jXULa15536; Fri, 21 May 1999 18:48:36 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 18:48:36 EDT Subject: Re: KRR: (of course) Over-Protective Parents To: Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk So I cant fry, shroom, or roll, but I can do coke, k, smoke weed, nitrous, pcp, and smoke a fat bowl of crack. I don't think its right for you to say what drugs a person is mature enough to do. I've researched every drug I've ever done before I did it and I feel I'm mature enough to do everything I do. I see no problem with me staying out all night listening to my favorite kinds of music with my friends dancin the night away. late Matt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 22:54:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27033 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 22:54:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 27024 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 22:54:35 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 22:54:35 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com (8050) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id jSQIa02742; Fri, 21 May 1999 18:52:50 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 18:52:54 EDT Subject: Re: KRR: (of course) Over-Protective Parents To: AdidasXE7@aol.com, Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I meant for that to be private... I'm sorry for flaming you publicly matt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 23:07:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4532 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 23:07:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 4517 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 23:07:03 -0000 Received: from web107.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.74) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 23:07:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19990521230706.6257.rocketmail@web107.yahoomail.com> Received: from [205.185.131.147] by web107.yahoomail.com; Fri, 21 May 1999 16:07:06 PDT Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 16:07:06 -0700 (PDT) From: chrisP Subject: Re: questions about cyberfest99 To: Pogobee@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You might want to check the SFR archives on Hyperreal for posts regarding Cool World. You will find mostly negative reviews dating back for at least the 4 years I've been on the list. You may find a few positive reviews as well, mostly from people who have AOL accounts AnD WriTe LiKE THiSS. :) I'm not saying don't go. I'm not saying go. I'm not even saying I won't go. But, I went to a few Cool World thingys before I knew any better. I never saw so many fights/OD's/gropings/mean ass security guards/tagging/people being carried out naked and screaming/hard stares. It's not a rave, it's... something else. The Santa Clara County Fair Grounds are no more sketchy than Oaklands very own second and dirtypantson. No less sketchy either. Late. chrisp --- Pogobee@aol.com wrote: > sorry i lost the chain of post for this earlier... > > i've never seen a flyer with such a powerfully huge names, but i'd like to > know a few things from people who've gone to past cyberfests.... Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 23:10:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6447 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 23:10:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 6436 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 23:10:39 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?GQiKzQ7Kmdf3NaRj9tABaM8nGzuK71/B?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 23:10:39 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id QAA13644 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 16:10:36 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 16:10:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: questions about cyberfest99 In-Reply-To: <19990521230706.6257.rocketmail@web107.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Once again, the junglist follows simple rules. Go with friends. Smoke up in the car on the way in. Go in. Find jungle room. Remain there until it is over or you have to go. Ignore everything else. Watch DJ Rap bounce around like Katrina from Katrina and the Waves/Molly Ringwald in Breakfast Club. That is all. 10-4, duh, max On Fri, 21 May 1999, chrisP wrote: > You might want to check the SFR archives on Hyperreal for posts regarding Cool > World. You will find mostly negative reviews dating back for at least the 4 > years I've been on the list. You may find a few positive reviews as well, > mostly from people who have AOL accounts AnD WriTe LiKE THiSS. :) > > I'm not saying don't go. > > I'm not saying go. > > I'm not even saying I won't go. > > But, I went to a few Cool World thingys before I knew any better. I never saw > so many fights/OD's/gropings/mean ass security guards/tagging/people being > carried out naked and screaming/hard stares. It's not a rave, it's... > something else. > > The Santa Clara County Fair Grounds are no more sketchy than Oaklands very own > second and dirtypantson. No less sketchy either. > > Late. > > chrisp > > > > --- Pogobee@aol.com wrote: > > sorry i lost the chain of post for this earlier... > > > > i've never seen a flyer with such a powerfully huge names, but i'd like to > > know a few things from people who've gone to past cyberfests.... > > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 23:12:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7248 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 23:12:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 7220 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 23:12:07 -0000 Received: from web704.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.24) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 23:12:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19990521231144.26625.rocketmail@web704.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.242.20.101] by web704.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 21 May 1999 16:11:44 PDT Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 16:11:44 -0700 (PDT) From: mike bolger Subject: hey, Jeno's spinning at the next Sunset boat party ! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well allright. as if tickets didn't sell out fast enough last time around. it's gonna be every man for themselves. i remember the last time Jeno spun at a Sunset was 4 some years ago. it was the last Sunset park party of 95 at Berkely Marina, back when they used to have Sunsets at the bottom of that kite-flying hill and you could just kick back and watch the ravers below you throwing down moves ala American Gladiators style. Sunset had just wrestled the title of being the authentic cool underground party from the Full Moon Rave. Wicked was still cool and all but Pacific was reliable. Jeno and Garth spun at that party and it was fun until some guy tore off his clothes and started to freak out the locals and the cops shut that one down hard. damn, that over 4 years ago. Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 23:27:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12027 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 23:27:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 11950 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 23:27:16 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 23:27:16 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com (4419) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id jLMNa15660; Fri, 21 May 1999 19:26:27 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <3f21bc5e.247745a0@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 19:26:24 EDT Subject: Re: KRR: (of course) Over-Protective Parents To: Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i agree, in some cases, but i think that people need to stop using age as an indicator of maturity, and stop assuming that everyone who parties does drugs! i was 16 when i went to my first party, and i don't think i was too young.... being a legal adult doesn't make a person ready either. i know 15 and 16 year olds (although only a few) that i would consider mature enough to handle going to a rave.... and i have friends that are 18,and older, that can bearly handle going to a high school dance because they don't know how to have fun without getting really drunk or fuct up on something else..... drug use happens everywhere, not just at raves. people do e, acid, shrooms, crystal, or whatever at home so to use that as a reasoning behind why they shouldn't go to a rave is stupid. if a kid is all about getting fuct up they will find a place and the means in one way or another..... drug use is a part of our scene, a very noticeble one at that, *but* it is not what everything is all about..... no one belongs doing a whole bunch or drugs at any age! the key to the problem is moderation and education.... if we take the time to educate these kids that you feel "don't belong at a rave" and teach them how to be responsible about their drug use, i think it is a safer place for them to be than so the local park or someone's house when their parents are gone.... love and hugs and kisses, tina In a message dated 5/21/99 2:32:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu writes: << 15 year old children should not be at an all night party where there is lots of drug use. Parents that do not let their children (under 18) go to "Raves" are being good parents. Young people ages 12-16 generally do not have the responsibility or the maturity to be at "raves". But, good parties are so much fun...there lies the dilemma. On a side mote,12-16 year old people have no business doing ecstasy, mushrooms and LSD. If you disagree, you have probably used to much of them when you were 12-16. Sorry to sound like such a gramps but someone has to....... aQ >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 23:31:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14183 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 23:31:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 14175 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 23:31:24 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd85.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.149) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 23:31:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 47961 invoked by uid 0); 21 May 1999 23:34:27 -0000 Message-ID: <19990521233427.47960.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.72.192.218 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 21 May 1999 16:34:26 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.72.192.218] From: "David Ramirez" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: questions about cyberfest99 Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 16:34:26 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ya know.. sounds like what i do all da time.. soon as i walk in.. follow da jungul beatz.. cant foget launchin it in front of da dj's n mc's.. heheh. does dj rap smoke????????.. *grin*.. ----Original Message Follows---- From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: questions about cyberfest99 Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 16:10:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From sfraves-owner-raver_hp Fri May 21 16:10:49 1999 Received: from [209.133.83.16] by hotmail.com (1.5) with SMTP id MHotMailB90F32F900EBD820B64AD18553100C560; Fri May 21 16:10:49 1999 Received: (qmail 6447 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 23:10:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 6436 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 23:10:39 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?GQiKzQ7Kmdf3NaRj9tABaM8nGzuK71/B?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 23:10:39 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost)by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id QAA13644 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 16:10:36 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) In-Reply-To: <19990521230706.6257.rocketmail@web107.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Once again, the junglist follows simple rules. Go with friends. Smoke up in the car on the way in. Go in. Find jungle room. Remain there until it is over or you have to go. Ignore everything else. Watch DJ Rap bounce around like Katrina from Katrina and the Waves/Molly Ringwald in Breakfast Club. That is all. 10-4, duh, max On Fri, 21 May 1999, chrisP wrote: > You might want to check the SFR archives on Hyperreal for posts regarding Cool > World. You will find mostly negative reviews dating back for at least the 4 > years I've been on the list. You may find a few positive reviews as well, > mostly from people who have AOL accounts AnD WriTe LiKE THiSS. :) > > I'm not saying don't go. > > I'm not saying go. > > I'm not even saying I won't go. > > But, I went to a few Cool World thingys before I knew any better. I never saw > so many fights/OD's/gropings/mean ass security guards/tagging/people being > carried out naked and screaming/hard stares. It's not a rave, it's... > something else. > > The Santa Clara County Fair Grounds are no more sketchy than Oaklands very own > second and dirtypantson. No less sketchy either. > > Late. > > chrisp > > > > --- Pogobee@aol.com wrote: > > sorry i lost the chain of post for this earlier... > > > > i've never seen a flyer with such a powerfully huge names, but i'd like to > > know a few things from people who've gone to past cyberfests.... > > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 23:32:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15627 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 23:32:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 15610 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 23:32:35 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 23:32:35 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com (8074) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vOWZa02685; Fri, 21 May 1999 19:31:56 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 19:31:56 EDT Subject: Children Of the SUN!!!! I need the info # To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sacraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Netmail sub 2 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey anyone have the info line for children of the sun? <3 amber r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 23:42:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19650 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 23:42:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 19589 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 23:42:19 -0000 Received: from web508.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (128.11.68.75) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 23:42:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19990521234530.16332.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.119.128.253] by web508.yahoomail.com; Fri, 21 May 1999 16:45:30 PDT Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 16:45:30 -0700 (PDT) From: What is a dic-so bunny Subject: NRR: THANKS for the help!!! (Re: Psyc Final) To: "Da Sack A Tomatoes ." , "Hib Ta Da Hibbidy Hop" "and da Boccoli" Biff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'd like to thank everyone who took the time to help me write my Psyc Paper on MDMA...a lot of you guys had really great ideas and resources for me to check out!!! Thanks again...its people like you that make me glad to be part of this rave culture! You guys are always willing to lend a helping hand!!! Much love, Sherri ;) === Fievel and Dinky Little SUCK DONKEY Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 21 23:44:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20724 invoked by uid 6000); 21 May 1999 23:44:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 20713 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 23:44:06 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?FT3r3WTdl0iuYcEkzx02SOkd7CGJqH1c?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 23:44:06 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id QAA18874; Fri, 21 May 1999 16:44:05 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 16:44:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: David Ramirez cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: questions about cyberfest99 In-Reply-To: <19990521233427.47960.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 21 May 1999, David Ramirez wrote: > ya know.. sounds like what i do all da time.. soon as i walk in.. follow da > jungul beatz.. cant foget launchin it in front of da dj's n mc's.. heheh. > does dj rap smoke????????.. *grin*.. Yes yes, she was definitely getting her smokey smokey on at Sequence at 1015 Folsom. What could possibly wind up little junglist boys more than DJ Rap on the main floor of 1015 Folsom playing a DJ Abstract tune and mixing with a spliff dangling from her pretty little lips? hoo wuh. 10-4, duh, max M-A class of 94, yoooooooooooooooooooooooooou knnnnnnnooooooooooooow! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 00:18:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6064 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 00:18:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 6056 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 00:18:23 -0000 Received: from web1002.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.92) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 00:18:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19990522001818.18524.rocketmail@web1002.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.170.187.233] by web1002.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 21 May 1999 17:18:18 PDT Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 17:18:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Junglist Mikey Subject: Re: questions about cyberfest99 To: Max McCauley , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Couldnt have said it any better muh man. Peace, love and DJ Rap Junglist Mikey --- Max McCauley wrote: > > Once again, the junglist follows simple rules. Go > with friends. Smoke up > in the car on the way in. Go in. Find jungle room. > Remain there until > it is over or you have to go. Ignore everything > else. Watch DJ Rap > bounce around like Katrina from Katrina and the > Waves/Molly Ringwald in > Breakfast Club. > > That is all. > > 10-4, > duh, > max > > > On Fri, 21 May 1999, chrisP wrote: > > > You might want to check the SFR archives on > Hyperreal for posts regarding Cool > > World. You will find mostly negative reviews > dating back for at least the 4 > > years I've been on the list. You may find a few > positive reviews as well, > > mostly from people who have AOL accounts AnD WriTe > LiKE THiSS. :) > > > > I'm not saying don't go. > > > > I'm not saying go. > > > > I'm not even saying I won't go. > > > > But, I went to a few Cool World thingys before I > knew any better. I never saw > > so many fights/OD's/gropings/mean ass security > guards/tagging/people being > > carried out naked and screaming/hard stares. It's > not a rave, it's... > > something else. > > > > The Santa Clara County Fair Grounds are no more > sketchy than Oaklands very own > > second and dirtypantson. No less sketchy either. > > > > > Late. > > > > chrisp > > > > > > > > --- Pogobee@aol.com wrote: > > > sorry i lost the chain of post for this > earlier... > > > > > > i've never seen a flyer with such a powerfully > huge names, but i'd like to > > > know a few things from people who've gone to > past cyberfests.... > > > > Free instant messaging and more at > http://messenger.yahoo.com > > > > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 00:18:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6717 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 00:18:56 -0000 Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Received: (qmail 6708 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 00:18:54 -0000 Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 00:18:54 -0000 Received: from best.com ([216.132.92.5]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id RAA13641; Fri, 21 May 1999 17:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3745F6D4.B454193@best.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 17:14:12 -0700 From: just jer Organization: @spire X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Children of the Sun Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'll be promoting at Children of the Sun t'nite, so if I give you a flyer, say "HI!" or sumptin'. -- ... it's almost here ... @spire (415) 273-5513 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 00:50:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19591 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 00:50:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 19564 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 00:50:10 -0000 Received: from nytoday.whowhere.com (HELO mc-qout2.whowhere.com) (209.1.236.38) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 00:50:10 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared1-mail.whowhere.com; Fri May 21 17:49:32 1999 To: youcantbewhatyouwere@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, Anachra@aol.com Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 17:49:32 -0700 From: "23" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Expiredinmiddle: true X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: free outdoor daytime party X-Sender-Ip: 206.111.131.80 Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail (http://www.eudoramail.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Some one asked for directions... Here ya go: Golen Gate Park Bandshell. Right smack dab inbtwn the De Young Museum and the California Academy Of Sicences (Which is STILL playing _The Beatles_ Laserium show) So dat's it! C-ya @ Children & stop by in the chill room 'round 1ish for a Specal guest melodic trance/downtempo set (BSP BSP BSP BSP) Anakin "Stay Connected" Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 00:56:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21726 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 00:56:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 21717 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 00:56:44 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 00:56:44 -0000 Received: from ShockVibe@aol.com (7817) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vMEIa02604 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 20:55:38 -0400 (EDT) From: ShockVibe@aol.com Message-ID: <4d337549.24775a89@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 20:55:37 EDT Subject: BSP:*Tonight!********FaZe******** To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It's "Off the Hook" tonight! We are putting so much N R G into tonight.. We are now sold out of tickets at harmonics and mixology. Some of the other locations that were posted on the flyer may have more pre-sale tickets left. We are letting in quite a few people at the doors, so if you don't have a pre-sale before midnight you WILL be let in. May 21st - Static Cling productions presents: ***********(((((((((((((((FaZe)))))))))))))))*********** Main Room: Oboro Records, Tracy, Tao, E.T.I. (compliments of Daddys Records), J-Bot (Harmony), Dj D (T & J Factory), Marty (XLR8R), Tom-E (Static Cling), Tecni (Static Cling), Jungle Room:, Turtle (threshold vibes), Wain (threshold vibes), Spie (threshold vibes), Datem (threshold vibes), Russell G (Dancehall Militia), Hip-Hop/Trip-Hop:, We have PHAT dj's all lined up for ya!. Presale tickets $10<--->At the door $12 w/can $15 w/out Tickets available at--> Daddys Records, T & J Factory, BPM, Compound Records, Mixology, and Harmonics. We also have a great space for you... A new, clean, fully permitted lazer tag arena!! Its located in Santa Rosa. There is a WATER FOUNTAIN and clean bathrooms (a lot of you o.g. ravers know what i'm talking about :P) Info line: 707.325.0340 MuZiK & LiGhT, sean From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 01:02:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24055 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 01:02:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 24045 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 01:02:18 -0000 Received: from m1.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.199) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 01:02:18 -0000 Received: (from burnout777@juno.com) by m1.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EA7EHQB3; Fri, 21 May 1999 21:01:10 EDT To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 17:49:04 -0700 Subject: Re: free outdoor daytime party Message-ID: <19990521.175201.-1048479.6.burnout777@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Jim E." Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk wait, someone just said its a civic center?? so which is it?? i'm befuddled. On Fri, 21 May 1999 17:49:32 -0700 "23" writes: > Some one asked for directions... > > >Here ya go: > >Golen Gate Park Bandshell. Right smack dab inbtwn the De Young Museum >and the California Academy Of Sicences (Which is STILL playing _The >Beatles_ Laserium show) > >So dat's it! > >C-ya @ Children & stop by in the chill room 'round 1ish for a Specal >guest melodic trance/downtempo set > >(BSP BSP BSP BSP) > > >Anakin > > >"Stay Connected" > > >Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail >account at http://www.eudoramail.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 01:14:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28093 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 01:14:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 28078 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 01:14:54 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 01:14:54 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca1-110.ix.netcom.com [209.109.232.110]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA26058; Fri, 21 May 1999 18:14:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3746056D.75EF3462@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 18:16:29 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J.C." CC: JUNGurlE@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: flaming... and other good stuff.. was Re: My First Light; Full of Surprises References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk J.C., Couldn't you have just kept that compliment to yourself? The whole list doesn't need to see it! Did you just post that so people would think you were cool or something? You are not any better than the rest of the scum on this list! My point is that it's not flaming, it's disagreeing. Negative comments and insults are part of real life. Negativity is important. Without the negative there is no positive. Once you embrace the negative and the positive in your life together as a whole... then neither one will cause you please or pain. The both will only result in LOVE. Positive and Neagtive are of the same vibration. They are just a differnet fluxation of that vibration. They can not exist without each other. Well... i think i have rambled on about this. Sorry, for using you as an example, J.C. I did not mean what I said to you. Post anything you like. That is the wonderful thing about FREE Speach. You can bitch or scream about anything you love or hate... and everyone else can bitch right back. It's called the AMERiCAN WAY. =Paul*E*Wog "J.C." wrote: > > Truer words have rarely been said. > > On Thu, 20 May 1999 JUNGurlE@aol.com wrote: > > > just a quick thought to everyone.. > > > > why do we feel the need to flame people on the list publicly.. is that so > > everyone can see how "overly cool" we are? Why not just do it privatly and > > to the person's eyes it was meant to see.. otherwise it seems like showing > > off.. or saying your a better, smarter, more sophisticated person than the > > other.. People are only human and yes we do make mistakes and say/ do things > > that others will deem only as wrong. > > > > just remember everytime you get 2 or more people together .... difference in > > opinion CAN and WILL occur.. just deal and get over it! > > > > :) > > > > <3 amber R > > > > P.S. Notice how I say WE.. not to leave my self out of this one. > > > > -- > "An Epiphany of Sound" - 90.1 FM Tuesdays from 9PM-Mid Pacific. > (Also on the web at http://realaudio.stanford.edu/). Playlists > and humor list archives at http://www-kzsu.stanford.edu/~dougm > > "Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of > KZSU Radio or Stanford University." (or words to that effect.) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 01:15:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28237 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 01:15:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 28090 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 01:14:56 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 01:14:56 -0000 Received: from Anachra@aol.com (14400) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id dXYLa02104; Fri, 21 May 1999 21:14:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Anachra@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 21:14:19 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: Re: SF Raves GEEK fest 99 To: maxmcc@csua.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk a'ight then i think the GEEK fest should definitely be 5'7"+ ya damn half pint sittin muh non 21 year old ass at home: -spacey maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU writes: > I think the SF Raves GEEK fest should definitely be 21+. > > 10-4, > duh, > max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 01:29:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3727 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 01:29:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 3701 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 01:29:10 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 01:29:10 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com (4419) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vZIJa15660 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 21:28:31 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 21:28:31 EDT Subject: Re: I'm confused To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well, there was some kind of event at the fair grounds not to long ago i think it was new years eve, not quite a rave from what i understand but it was an all nite thing too, i think it was called freak fest...there were dj's and stuff there, but it was more the 94.9 brand of music than what we are used to.... love and hugs and kisses, tina DjShUbErT@aol.com wrote: > why is it that you cannot get an all night permit in San Jose yet Cool World > is throwing their bash at the Santa Clara County Fairgrounds ? Ive been to a > handful of San Jose events and i can say only one of them went all night and > i dont remember any of them being permitted ..whats the deal? > Peace, Shubert From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 01:30:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4688 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 01:30:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 4678 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 01:30:32 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 01:30:32 -0000 Received: from Markis1012@aol.com (14378) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id aWGJa15660; Fri, 21 May 1999 21:28:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Markis1012@aol.com Message-ID: <53ec37f4.24776227@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 21:28:07 EDT Subject: Re: free outdoor daytime party To: dan@pry.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey, I wanna go! The last outdoor party I went to was hella cool. I'm not really into Trance either but I liked it. Good vibes everywere!!:) Is there going to be any "jungle" at this party? Please somebody let me know! markis(junglejunkie) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 01:33:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6166 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 01:33:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 6158 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 01:33:37 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 01:33:37 -0000 Received: from DjShUbErT@aol.com (8054) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHDNa02270; Fri, 21 May 1999 21:31:59 -0400 (EDT) From: DjShUbErT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 21:32:00 EDT Subject: Re: I'm confused To: MoonChyld1@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Tinas right but it didnt go until 5 am like Cyberfest ... people use the fairgrounds for stuff like that every here and there but its only permitted until 2 am ..not 5am Peace , Shubert From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 01:44:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8735 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 01:44:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 8725 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 01:44:21 -0000 Received: from mail10.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.138) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 01:44:21 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca1-110.ix.netcom.com [209.109.232.110]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA21929; Fri, 21 May 1999 18:44:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37460C55.27AE91BF@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 18:45:57 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ravergrl27@aol.com CC: lukkypunk@earthlink.net, lesleymo@sco.com, BigM009@aol.com, william@nettwerk.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Cyberfest References: <7838b1b0.2476677a@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That is great Jeannie and I understand these are your friends, but maybe if there really was a love for the music & the diversity they would actually have that. It all looks like house, trance, techno, jungle, breaks and hip hop to me. There are other genres not represented. There is nothing new that i see here. It has all been done before in this scene. Where is the Hardcore? Where is the Goa? They have not included everything. I am sure there right now some styles that many have not even heard of. Too many of us have heard all this before. It is old. Where is the spark? I do not feel it. There is no new flavor. This will impress only those without experience. If they really cared about music they would not just showcase the most popular genres, but ALL music that you can dance to. Since these are YOUR friends, maybe you are looking at this through rose colored glasses. Feel Good Entertainment has changed in the past two years. Some changes were postitive and some where negative. I feel that the changes were for the good. I think you would agree that you and Vlad have done a great deal of growing these past years... as have I. I believe your respectable business to be a a much better provider for diversity in music than any COOL WORLD concert. You're friend's vision is narrow compared to what you claim of their love for diversity. As a friend, you should point this out to them. I would not let my friends leave the house ready to party looking like shit. Friends are honest and always tell the truth. FGE could teach COOL WORLD thing or two about passion. You want to do the right thing, don't you? Your friend =Paul*E*Wog Ravergrl27@aol.com wrote: > > Just to let you all know Everyone is confirmed and it should be a great > production! I know Im going to be there, Its time for Coolworld to get > something back for all their hard work over the years and the blood and sweat > they have had to deal with. I have a great feeling about it this time. They > have been working VERY hard and its time for them to shine again. > > I have been there since the beginning and I know that the vision they have > had is happening for them now! This is where they have always wanted to go. A > huge festival with much diversity. Where everyone can gather for a common > goal. MUSIC!!!!! > > I wish some of you REALLY knew the person behind this and his hopes and > dreams. Sometimes people are Misunderstood by others! I sometimes find myself > giggling at some comments that are made about them! If you only really knew > the passion that Coolworld has and the artist behind the name. I hope it goes > off! Im sure it will! > > I have been waiting for a concert like this for way to long! Im glad I don't > have to go to the UK to get it!!! Im glad it has finally reached the bay > Area. > > I just wanted to share my thoughts about this issue! Take care and have a > wonderful day! > > HuGs*** > Jeannie =) > > In a message dated 5/20/99 3:55:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > lukkypunk@earthlink.net writes: > > << This does look a bit dodgy judging from the site, but I know for a fact > from the > Chem Bros manager and some of my friends at Astralwerks that they are > confirmed to > appear at the Santa Clara Fairgrounds on July 10. Whether it's going to be a > festival or yet another "electronica" concert remains to be seen. > > Peace, > Chris >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 01:59:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11689 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 01:59:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 11677 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 01:59:40 -0000 Received: from mail9.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 01:59:40 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca1-110.ix.netcom.com [209.109.232.110]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA23242 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 18:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37460FF1.E44C0BD4@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 19:01:21 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: USA Moves Toward Marijuana Research Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------340287FC19DE9469ED049788" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------340287FC19DE9469ED049788 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------340287FC19DE9469ED049788 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24149 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 14:45:14 -0700 (PDT) From: PaulxExWog@aol.com Received: from PaulxExWog@aol.com (8058) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 7TTVa03101 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 17:46:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <9eaa10a.24772e43@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 17:46:43 EDT Subject: Fwd: US Moves Toward Marijuana Research To: goodvibe@geocities.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_9eaa10a.24772e43_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 --part1_9eaa10a.24772e43_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_9eaa10a.24772e43_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: AOLNews@aol.com From: AOLNews@aol.com Full-name: AOL News Message-ID: <9eaa10a.2476d625@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:30:45 EDT Subject: US Moves Toward Marijuana Research MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) To: undisclosed-recipients:; US Moves Toward Marijuana Research .c The Associated Press By PAUL RECER WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Clinton administration today released new guidelines to ease the availability of marijuana for medical research, in a move that officials believe will quicken the pace of studies into the drug's possible beneficial uses. The new guidelines, ``an extension of an existing process,'' will make it easier for academic researchers to obtain samples of research-grade marijuana grown by the government, said Campbell Gardett, a spokesman for the Department of Health and Human Services. The guidelines were endorsed by the White House Office of National Drug Policy as part of an effort to more thoroughly understand the benefits and risks of using marijuana to treat medical conditions. ``Such research will allow us to better understand what benefits might actually exist for the use of cannabinoid-based drugs,'' the drug policy office said in a statement. ``This decision underscores the federal government's commitment to ensuring that the discussion of the medical efficacy and safety of cannabionoids takes place within the context of medicine and science.'' The drug policy office, in the past, has resisted efforts by some groups to make medical marijuana more readily available, but officials at the agency insisted today that the new directive is ``not a reversal of policy.'' There has been increasing pressure from organizations, researchers and physicians for more research into the medical uses of marijuana. In California, voters passed an initiative in 1996 that would allow patients to grow and use marijuana if it was prescribed by their doctors. The federal response was to warn that doctors could be penalized if they helped their patients get the drug. Some federal scientists have conducted marijuana research in the past, but many academic and private researchers have complained of the difficulty of getting research-grade marijuana from tightly controlled government supplies. The new guidelines will ease the process, while assuring that the drug is available only to legitimate researchers, Gardett said. The guidelines say that HHS has determined that it will make research-grade marijuana available ``on a cost reimbursement basis,'' which means that researchers or their sponsors will help defray the government cost of raising the weed on government lands. The intent of the policy, also, is to ensure that the marijuana used in research is of high quality. Valid research, the guidelines say, requires that ``the substance ... must have a consistent and predictable potency, must be free of contamination and must be available in sufficient amounts to support the needs of the study.'' In the last few months, committees of experts have recommended in two major studies a more extensive program of scientific research into marijuana. Committees for both the National Academy of Sciences and the National Institutes of Health concluded there is evidence that marijuana can be useful in the treatment of some patients who have not responded well to other therapies. Many cancer patients and people with AIDS have said that marijuana, often obtained illegally, is able to relieve nausea and to restore appetite. Other patients have used marijuana to combat glaucoma, the sight-robbing disease caused by a buildup of pressure in the eye. AP-NY-05-21-99 1130EDT Copyright 1998 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without prior written authority of The Associated Press. To edit your profile, go to keyword NewsProfiles . For all of today's news, go to keyword News. --part1_9eaa10a.24772e43_boundary-- --------------340287FC19DE9469ED049788-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 02:01:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12542 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 02:01:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 12532 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 02:01:19 -0000 Received: from mail9.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 02:01:19 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca1-110.ix.netcom.com [209.109.232.110]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA24180; Fri, 21 May 1999 19:01:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <374605DC.398E2F39@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 18:18:20 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com CC: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: ...some pick up lines for those in need..... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I've slept with Micron! He's as good a lover as he is a DJ. =Paul*E*Wog TeKnODiVa@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 5/19/99 6:43:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > terry@saturn5.com writes: > > << 4. Hi there, I'm Micron. > > > 8. Hi I'm Micron, what I lack in height I make up in girth. > > > OUCH!! that's all I can say... OUCH!! > > hugs n'stuff, > trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 02:41:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23773 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 02:41:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 23758 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 02:41:23 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 02:41:23 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA25315 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 21:40:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca13-218.ix.netcom.com(209.109.238.218) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma025306; Fri May 21 21:40:18 1999 Message-ID: <37461909.2C3879B5@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 19:40:09 -0700 From: Ray Vonie Organization: Feel Good Entertainment X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Subject: Splendor Blender Pre-Sale Tix (bee.es.pea) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just a reminder that the Pre-Sale tickets for Splendor Blender go on sale This Saturday May 21st. That's either tomorow or today, depending on when you checked your e-mail. The First 10 Tickets at every store are discounted an aditional $5, but that's only for the first 10 tix at every store. However there are 29 stores, and more than likely, there is one very close to YOU. For Store locations, and all the details on the party, chech our website: http://www/globalparty.com Thanks, and see you on the dancefloor. Keep it mellow, Vlad From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 03:41:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10745 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 03:41:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 10736 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 03:41:08 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 03:41:08 -0000 Received: from DNGRBOY9@aol.com (3951) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id dFHMa02105; Fri, 21 May 1999 23:40:23 -0400 (EDT) From: DNGRBOY9@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 23:40:22 EDT Subject: Re: questions about cyberfest99 To: maxmcc@csua.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/21/1999 4:10:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU writes: << Once again, the junglist follows simple rules. Go with friends. Smoke up in the car on the way in. Go in. Find jungle room. Remain there until it is over or you have to go. Ignore everything else. Watch DJ Rap bounce around like Katrina from Katrina and the Waves/Molly Ringwald in Breakfast Club. That is all. >> WORD THAT>>> iM PROBABLY GOING SINCE ITS L;IKE 2 MILES AWAY.. BUT , IM KINDA SKEPTICAL...BUNCHA HOODS,,,,I JUST KNOW THERE GONNA FUCK IT ALL UP. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 04:54:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25279 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 04:54:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 25267 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 04:54:49 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 04:54:49 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA10296 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 21:54:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905220454.VAA10296@mail.netwiz.net> To: "San FranDisco Ravers List" Subject: that free daytime saturday blue room party Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 21:54:47 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk here's another hunk-o-info indicating it's at ggp bandshell, not civic ctr plaza. anybody know for real which one is correct?? ------- Forwarded Message Golen Gate Park Bandshell. Right smack dab inbtwn the De Young Museum and the California Academy Of Sicences (Which is STILL playing _The Beatles_ Laserium show) ------- End of Forwarded Message From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 04:57:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26202 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 04:57:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 26179 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 04:57:12 -0000 Received: from smtp2.stanford.edu (171.64.14.23) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 04:57:12 -0000 Received: from leland.stanford.edu (springer.Stanford.EDU [171.64.173.233]) by smtp2.Stanford.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3/L) with ESMTP id VAA07634 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 21:57:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37463891.AFFD7E56@leland.stanford.edu> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 21:54:41 -0700 From: Timothy Stephen Springer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Children of Sun Ride Emergency Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello all. My ride for Children of the Sun just fell through. If anyone can give two friendly kids from stanford a ride to the rave it would be much appreciated. If you can, please give my friend Leland a call at 650-814-7883 and he'll let me know. thanks... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 11:07:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1858 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 11:07:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 1850 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 11:07:03 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 11:07:03 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com (3931) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vERLa02573 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 07:06:23 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: <6db030e6.2477e9ae@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 07:06:22 EDT Subject: the FIRST children of the light review To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ran around Berkeley for 2 hours bored out of my mind....was gonna call Max but I realized i left my phone book at home. Went to the store. Called info line. Went to map point. went to party. got inside. saw many friends and familiar faces (hi Alex, mook, & everyone else) I really enjoyed Microns set (HI!) it was awesome except when that girlie bumped the tables.. GRRRR! :) hehehe I was sooo super tired though, it really sucked for me, that and not really feeling/absorbing the vibe. It was an odd feeling party for me. I just couldn't get into the groove of it. NOT saying there wasn't great music, I personally was just not feeling it. The remainder of my time was spent sitting in various locations around the party.. just enjoying the music and relaxing. Some times its just really cool to chill and listen to the music, while other times its not. then it hit us.. COPS! Parties shut down. I squish my way out of the hot building and onto the sidewalk where i see about 4/5 worried looking moms outside and boy do they look bloody pissed off! I made my way over into the shuttle.. yeah i caught one of the first ones. THERE was NO way in hell I was going to walk back to the car or stay outside and freeze. Got to the car and took off heading back home. I heard the shuttle guy tell us that one of the girls moms had been looking for her and found out where she was and had called the cops but who knows the real story right? Well.. my friend and i got our pictures taken by a cop.. she was taking pictures of EVERYTHING ... NO doubt the promoters are gonna get in some sort of trouble.. which bites! Scary to know the cops have my friend and I on film somewhere smiling and looking all sweet :) hehehe well I'm extremely bloody tired and am now off to bed. <3 amber r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 11:52:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8601 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 11:52:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 8586 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 11:52:17 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 11:52:17 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com (3877) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id yKYLa02106; Sat, 22 May 1999 07:50:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 07:50:58 EDT Subject: Re: SF Raves GEEK fest 99 To: Jason.LEE@adecco.com, Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thats funny ...... Even for this time of the day!!!!! =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 11:58:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9780 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 11:58:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 9766 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 11:58:55 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 11:58:55 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com (3877) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rFWPa02681; Sat, 22 May 1999 07:57:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: <57dd4e48.2477f5c1@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 07:57:53 EDT Subject: Re: questions about cyberfest99 To: jungle_biotch@yahoo.com, maxmcc@csua.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/21/99 5:18:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jungle_biotch@yahoo.com writes: << Couldnt have said it any better muh man. Peace, love and DJ Rap >> Ok now you took my line.... =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 14:50:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9546 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 14:50:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 9537 invoked by uid 233); 22 May 1999 14:50:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 22709 invoked by uid 228); 21 May 1999 10:49:58 -0000 Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 03:49:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Karina Powers To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sfraves-calendar@hyperreal.org cc: Karina Powers Subject: This Week's SFR Calendar for 05.21.99 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I am still slightly sick, but recovering. Thank you all for your warmest wishes and concern. It really makes a difference knowing how many of you care. Humour: I have a friend who just bought a computer and was instructed to load a program by typing "A:" and then the name of the program. My friend told me it would not work because his keyboard was no good. He said he couldn't type the "dot over dot thingie" and that every time he tried to type the "dot over dot thingie" he kept getting the "dot over comma thingie" no matter how careful he was to press only on the very top of the key. When I taught him about the shift key, he thought I was a genius. Thanks! Karina ==================================================== What lies behind us karina@hyperreal.org and What lies before us are tiny matters When compared to What lies Within Us. -Oliver Wendell Holmes ==================================================== The SFR Calendar http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/sf/calendar/gencal.cgi _________________________________________________________________ Thursday, May 20th - ElectroDynamics DJs Logos (Solstice Party), Marx, Phazer (Solstice Party), guests. Bringing together fresh bodies and trance DJs. Trancedelic sounds begin early (6pm) for the happy-hour crowd, then deep-trance dance beats raise the dance floor till 2am. Queer & queer-friendly no-attitude eclectica. (at Harrison). 21+. Free before 9pm; $3 cover thereafter.. The Stud Bar, 399 9th St., SF. Friday, May 21st - EMANON/Question Mark presents efflorescence - "the gentle process of flowering" Dutch, Moda, Mystrey, Greg Sandler, Happy Kid Ian vs. Happy Kid Marty, Erik Brown, Uphoria, Tracer, Alias, Gianni, Anya De La Rosa, Zach Darling, J-Bot, Diversion, Orion Z. Fully Permitted Sonoma County Location. 415.750.3002 Friday, May 21st - static cling productions presents Faze Main Room: Oboro Records, Tracy, Tao, E.T.I. (compliments of Daddys Records), J-Bot (Harmony), Dj D (T & J Factory), Marty (XLR8R), Tom-E (Static Cling), Tecni (Static Cling), Jungle Room:, Turtle (threshold vibes), Wain (threshold vibes), Spie (threshold vibes), Datem (threshold vibes), Russell G (Dancehall Militia), Hip-Hop/Trip-Hop:, We have PHAT dj's all lined up for ya!. Presale tickets $10<--->At the door $12 w/can $15 w/out Tickets available at--> Daddys Records, T & J Factory, BPM, Compound Records, Mixology, and Harmonics. We also have a great space for you...A lazer tag arena!! Its located in Santa Rosa. 707.325.0340 Friday, May 21st - children of the sun presents and the journey continues.. Brad (Moontribe/LA), Beatseed (Journees/Seattle), Greg Sandler (harmony), andyW (viberation), Micron (viberation), Macadio (First Light) . As Always Free Fruit & Lemonade - Limited Capacity - Presale Tix Strongly Advised. We Love You All / Spread The Warmth. 415.835.3144 Friday, May 21st - Silly and XLR8R Magazine presents MAZE Bringing you the best in international tribal techno trance. Adam X (Sonic Groove, NY), D.A.V.E. the Drummer (Live, Liberator Crew, UK), Maya 13/Deaks, Henrik Rosdahl, Mystrë, Charlotte the Baroness, Push, Justi. Every 3rd Friday of the month. 10pm-6am, 21+, $10. free b4 10:30. 550 Barneveld St., SF. 415.263.6750 Friday, May 21st - Da Roc entertainment presents ETERNAL PARADISE TOONS Quiet House Productions, REMEDY dmc finalist/B92.9/FM90.5, JV VALASCO da Roc entert., DJ PAPI groove night club , NOTORIOUS NORM City nights guest DJ - DJ CASUAL Rebel entert., DJ HEEBEE Club X guest DJ. US Dream Girls oil wrestle live on stage! Hard Body contest! FSA dance squad presents Haluan live on stage! It's also the beads night! 4 Go-Go cages, 2 stages. $170 thousand dollars worth of sound and lights including lasers. ALL AGES room &18+ room Fully stocked bar for those who are 21+. Freaky attire suggested. $15. 831.429.7779 Saturday, May 22nd - A Truly Underground Experience- explore your mind through the influence of techno E.S.P Praxis, Gabbergirl, Aneurism, KJ, Optic, Ken Q, Cool Hand Luke, Dr. Nog, More TBA. Get back to your roots by keeping our underground alive. Virgin downtown Berkeley 510.845.7885 Saturday, May 22nd - NBC presents Simple TBA. Outdoor Free. 707.579.9688 Saturday, May 22nd - Stompy Hi-Fi!!! Stompy House Players: Preston, Jonene, Tasho. Solid deep house with an eclectic crowd who are ready to GET DOWN and party!!! 10pm-5am, . $15/ with 21 id. 550 Barneveld, SF. 415.267.4807 Saturday, May 22nd - Blue Room & Eye Phunk presents An event for EVERYONE!!!! Live acts from the UK, Quirk (Matsuri), and SF's own grown Bufo (Ceiba Rec./EyePhunk), First time ever in America, top Drum&Bass dj, Audio Couture, Juice, Rugged Vinyl, and Beat Service recording artist TEEBEE(Moving Shadow/Certificate18), Techno/Trance DJ's-, back once again from Amsterdam, Lucas (MetalSpark/ Blue Room), Mark Allen (Quirk/Matsuri/Return to the Source UK), Adam Ohana(Bufo/Ceiba Rec./BlueRoom),, John Carel(Gateway Systems), Top Drum&Bass DJ's, E-Sassin (Soundsphere/Phunckateck LA), UFO (Phunkateck), Sage (Phunkateck), Siren (XLR8R/Bassment), Professor Smith (XLR8R), Down Tempo Groovers: , From Japan DJ Kudo (Artman/KIN Tokyo), General Idea of Diplodocus(KIN Tokyo), Arc Angel GabeReal (Future Breaks FM), Anon (EyePhunk/BlueRoom), Surreal (EyePhunk/BlueRoom). Two SF labels finally get together a spring bash for all ages... In a fully permitted SF location. 3 depressurized chambers for maximum lift off- FREE WATER(provided by Trinity Springs) & FRUIT. Techno Organic Smoothies by Power Punch $20---LIMITED TICKETS AVAILABLE get your PRESALE Tickets at: Frequency 8- 1816 Haight St. SF, Harmonics- 480 Mendocino Ave, Santa Rosa, Solid Grooves 2271 the Alameda, Santa Clara. Berkeley: Primal Records 2420 Parker St. Buy your Presale tickets in advance and save $$$$ 1.888.682.7666 Saturday, May 22nd - My House Productions presents SNUGGLE Marcellus (SF), Hiz Boy Elroy (SF), Taiyo (SF), Spike (KWR, Sac), Sonar (Chico), Wedge (Chico), Manic One (Chico), Ron Dare (KCHO, Chico), Kwashi (San Mateo), Erin (San Mateo), Jon Econ (Paradise), Woolove (SF). 10:00pm-6:00am, . Presale Tix ($8, $10 at the door) and info at Neo Retro. The Brick Works, 2nd and Wall Street, Chico. 530.893.2005 Saturday, May 22nd - Uniting Souls presents SoundTextures Come feel the abstract sounds of SF's underground Tag-teamin' 2x4 sessions:, Rasta Cue-Tip vs. J-Boogie (Beat Sauce KUSF 90.3 FM), Future Breaks crew (Arc Angel Gabe Real, DJ Push, Miss E), PBS crew (Mateo, No Battles, Buna). For your audio pleasure, we bring you a special night of jungle, hip-hop and breaks. Tune in to Future Breaks 90.3 FM Saturdays from 3-5 pm to win free passes to the party. Between 3rd & 4th off Townsend. 10pm-4am, 21+, $10. 330 Ritch, SF. 415.273.5449 510.273.2493 415.273.5449 510.273.2493 Saturday, May 22nd - small gathering Indoor event, an evening of jungle, trance and sick beats Mickey, Anakin, Sonic (aka Maize). More info on line up will be released later. $12. 415.449.7101 Saturday, May 22nd - l o v e w o r k s d a n c i n g presents " nature, rhythm, cloud, and sky " [ a celebration of the continuous beat of life ] for the love of may... featuring guest dj arkay performing an extended opening set, deep grooves and sonic architecture: resident dj matt valenz, guardian: robnoxious. btwn: 2nd / new mont. / mission . howard, s o m a these events are in partnership with the minna street gallery, now showing: l e n n i e m a c e ' s : 3 6 5 DAZE / ballpoint pen exhibit love / laughs / incense / flowers / candles / + the mightiest house music on earth. an audiosocial project implemented and monitored by the DDC. 9pm -. Minna Street Gallery, 111 minna street , SF . Saturday, May 22nd - We Got The Funk Bone (Detriot), Dj Dan (SF), Charles Feelgood (MD), Onionz (NY), Tony, Simon, Dan Isaac, Dj Pat, Anton, Dee, The Hitmen, Jonene (Stompy), Dj Jasen (LA), Barry Eves with MC JAMALSKI, KID MATHIS, Franklin,, a very special guest MC Brittany Andrews. Live: ETI. For Presale TIckets call Solid Grooves 408.248.6399 in San Jose, Primal Records (2420 Parker, Berkeley) 510.548.8511, BPM Music Factory (573 Hayes, SF) 415.487.8680, and Clear Music 415.437.1578. 415.436.0714 Saturday, May 22nd - Conscious Session an all night affair. Markie, Tracy, Harry Who, DJ Josh, M3, Laron, Spun. 415.273.5599 Saturday, May 22nd - The Trance & Jungle Factory presents **** Trance and Jungle Factory 2 Year Anniversary!!! **** Servicing the scene for 2 years with many more to follow!!! TBA, Thomas Trouble (T&J Factory), DJ D (T&J Factory), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Productions, Quest), Tom Slik (Skills), Dyloot (Skills, MHz), Uphonic (e.t.a.), Tracer (sf ug), Joaqman (T&J Factory, 5 Families), Amber (bay area ug), Eric Brown (Rebirth, Harmonics), Greg Sandler (Harmony, Harmonics), Rinse (Compound Records, B.A.S.S. Kru), Flux (Compound Records, B.A.S.S. Kru), MC Jamalski (Compound Records, B.A.S.S. Kru), Vertigo (bay area ug), Radley (MHz, Skills), Micron (Viberation), Andy W (Viberation). Pre-sale tix available through Frequency-8 (S.F.), Harmonics (Santa Rosa), Solid Grooves (San Jose) and the T&J Factory (Berkeley). Limited capacity so make sure you purchase a pre-sale to ensure your spot! Don't miss our celebration of the growing success of the trance and jungle scene. 415.248.2669 Sunday, May 23rd - Dayshine Ryan Wilber (NBC), URN (NBC, Harmonics), Sean Norton (mission to mondays), Zack Darling (Lightseed). 12pm-5pm, . Santa Rosa. 707.523.8656 Sunday, May 23rd - YOGURT Two rooms of music...one house/one hip hop, House, Jon Howard, Galen (Sunset), Chris Haycock, Chris Perrins, Tino, Hip Hop, Apollo (original skratch picklz), Wisdom (Beatsauce S.F.), Toby, M.A.. BBQ from 6pm-9pm. 6pm-2am, 21+, $5. Club Ecco 87, N. San Pedro, San Jose. Monday, May 24th - Mushroom Jazz @ Jazid Up Mark Farina, Julius Papp, Heather. 10pm-3am, $5. Big Heart City, 836 Mission St., SF. http://www.om-records.com 415.777.0666 Wednesday, May 26th - Harmonics presents DISCOVERY Li (Harmony), viberation (his first appearance since oct!), Ryan Wilber (NBC, SPARKLE, VORG), Greg Sandler (Harmony, Harmonics), Gianni (Harmonics, VORG, Release), Mac (Harmony, Harmonics, NBC), J-BOT (Harmony, Harmonics, NBC), Sean Norton (Mission to Mondays), Urn (Harmonics, Sparkle, NBC, Harmony), Logik (NBC, Sparkle, ASR, Children of the Sun ). 20,000 watt sound system taking you away from it all. 2 full bars. 9pm-4am, 18+, $7. 5th and Davis streets, Santa Rosa. 707.571.8747 Thursday, May 27th - Unconditional Dance Adnan (Squeeze / Uniting Souls). @ Harbin Hot Springs, Middleton. 707.987.2477 Friday, May 28th - Star*burst Productions presents Star*burst Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records), Greg Sandler (Harmony/Harmonics), Joe Lanzon (Bagok Tribe), Jeyson (Davis Funky Family), Dragn'fly (Epiphany), Hoth (Positive Theory). 100% fully permitted new Sacramento location. Proceeds to benefit the Sacramento Food Bank. Presale Tickets can be purchased @ In Tha Mix and Imagine Music in Sac. and Primal in Berzerkeley... $5 w/ a canned food item, $7 w/o. 916.815.4337 Friday, May 28th - May 31st - Lightseed Collective presents Butterfly A Lightseed Campout in praise of Julia Butterfly Hill in honor of Luna More info to be announced... http://www.sfrecords.com/lightseed/ Friday, May 28th - Squeeze Adnan, Nathan, Ray. In the Blue Room @ Nikita. 12 midnight-4am, 21+. 1015 Folsom, 1015 Folsom, SF. 415.789.7208 Saturday, May 29th - Release and Mixer Magazine presents The Farley & Heller T.G.I.M. Big Love Tour Farley & Heller, Behrouz, Taj, Julius Papp, BB Hayes, Tom Thump, Bruce, Jerry Ross, Rafael. 10pm-6am, 21+, $15. 1015 Folsom @ 6th, SF. 415.281.0823 Saturday, May 29th - Necropolis Electronica, Darkwave, Industrial Alaric, Raglan, OV23. Special Butoh dance performance by Collapsing Silence. Industrial lighting, blacklight chamber, subverted clubscape, bizarre videos, more... 10pm-3am, 21+. $8 before 10 pm and $11 after.. Transmission Theatre, 314 11th Street at Folsom, SF. Saturday, May 29th - Native Vison Productions presents M.A.D. LOVE PARTY A Going away party for Marcellus The Man With No Shoes Marcellus, Markiss Anthony, DJ Doubt, Siphon, And One Other TBA the Day of the free free fre party for all. Same Place Same Time For Info. noon-sunset, . 415.281.0777 Saturday, May 29th - CURTIS BAY and his Organic Trip-Hop/Hip-Hop/Acid Jazz/Drum-n-Bass Curtis Bay. Contact the TongueBath Tub for more info. at kimgerly@holonet.net 8pm-. Brain Wash Cafe, 1122 Folsom St., SF. 415.255.4866 Saturday, May 29th - Nomad Interactive presents Origin A full 8 hour journey into the depths of Techno, Trance and house music world acclaimed producer, direct from Detriot, KIKOMAN (Deep fried, Plus 8, 303, Missile UK Records), Markie Mark (Wicked) , DJ Josh (Gathering), Mars (Frequency 8), Mystre (Frequency 8), Gouracandra (Urban Development, Soundworks), Greg Sandler (Harmony), Dyloot (Skills, Happy Kids), Thomas Trouble (Tickle, Man in the Moon), Rick V (In the Mix, Bliss), Happy Kid Marty (Happy Kids), Mark Amoeba (Mixology), And Special Surprise Guest TBA. Discounted pre-sale tickets available exclusively at: Frequency 8 (SF), T&J Factory (Berk), In The Mix (Sac), Solid Grooves (SJ), Harmonics (SR), Mixology (SR). 415.675.5605 510.433.9933 408.278.5553 916.554.0554 Saturday, May 29th - Clockwork Eventz presents METROPOLIS 7 Underground dance districts of diversity METRODOME:, Donald Glaude, Terry Mullan, DJ Rktech, Hipp-E, Jeno, Tony, The ELECTRIC KINGDOM:, Charlotte The Baroness, DJ Liquid, DJ Ghost, Miss Knight, J-Boogie, Deep in the GARNET KONKRETE JUNGLE:, R.A.W. w/ MC?, Rinse & Flux w/MC Jamalski, U.F.O., Aaron V., DJ Dose, The Infamous Highlanders, FUNKYTOWN: Funky Beat's 4 yr anniversary:, Simon, DJ Doubt, DJ Matthew, Paucus, David vs.Joey Mazzola on 4, Jasen C., SECTOR 2:, Jon Williams, DRC, Chris Jackson, St. John, J-Bot, Charly Fusion, DJ Xolotyl, The Comfort, Room:, Deepfog, Boomerang, Triad, Reggae Lounge: come hang and feel da Irie vibes inside our reggae lounge. Prepare for the awakening!!! A night of bad ass talent, mixing through the most intense beats to date!!! A night of explosive performances, that will push the boundaries of the underground mentality!!! A night that will be out of control, filled with the amazement of an interactive multimedia extravaganza. LUMATECH lighting will be throwing down the fattest lighting show that nobody has ever seen before!! The Royal Rumble: mark wayne,jk sound,xtreme audio We will also be celebrating Funky Beats 4 year anniversary!!! HIEROGLYPHICS,THE PHARCYDE. Live p.a. Sound Of Light. 408.747.7742 415.721.4713 510.733.1140 916.565.6560 Sunday, May 30th - SF Carnaval! On the streets of the Mission District. Live Keyboards, Sax, Bass, Vocal action from DJ Collage (DubTribe, Masse 1), Sery special secret guests & suprises... . Drum&Bass, Breakbeats, Dub & Jungle come to the SF Carnaval - A Waking Dream will have a float With a full U.K. style SoundSystem with many djs. Premier of the new D&B/Breakbeat Dub remix of Bob Marleys classic `EXodus' in an epic 30 minute version The visual theme of that float is `Mondo Condo' protesting the live/work situation & the resulting exodus of artists from The Bay area. Drummers/Ravers can participate by showing up & dancing alongside The float or by coming to A Waking Dream's warehouse at 2815 18th st (@ Bryant)next Sat or Sun (22nd & 23rd)afternoon after 1pm to help make costumes (that you can wear!) etc . Sunday, May 30th - Release, Metrojazz, If...The Idea Factory and silverTab(r) presents The first of the Wet Pool Party In DJs We Trust Series Kevin Yost (i!Records), Peter Heller (Junior Boys Own, Subliminal), Julius Papp (Yellow), Franky Boissy, Miguel "Migs", Mauricio Aviles, Martel, Nabiel, Saga. Indoor/Outdoor, BBQ. Benefit for SF AIDS Foundation. 12pm-2am, 21+. $10 before 4, $15 after. Backflip, 601 Eddy St @ Larkin. Sunday, May 30th - Koolada (A Tropical Excursion into Deep Funkiness) Enjoy the house sounds on the outdoor patio under a full moon..., Jonene, Tasho, Preston (Stompy Hi-Fi), Rasoul (Leaf, Large, Guidance Recordings), Harry Who?, Chris Perrins, get down, get funky with..., Mei Lwun (Soulstice, OM Records), M3 (Fully Loaded Recordings, Green Gorilla Lounge), Darkhorse (Three Sixty Records), Alvaro, Chris Haycock. Vegetarian BBQ/buffet. Corner of San Pedro & St. John. 2pm-2am, 21+, $10. free from 2 - 4. Club ECCO, 87 N. San Pedro, San Jose. Sunday, May 30th - Memorial Day Full Moon Free Outdoor on the Beach Onionz (chocolate factory), Rob Doten (daddys), Taj (spundae), John Rodriguez, Eric Erickson, TJ, David Coleman w/ Sen-Sei on keys. a Balance production. http://www.SFHouse.com 415.339.8015 Sunday, May 30th - EUROTIKA 3 Biohazard productions-L.A..(GABE &THEE-O), F-8-S.F.(MYSTRE), ANTHONY S(THE TRIBE), D!ZZ!(Fresno). . Modesto Centre Plaza,, Modesto. 209.236.6846 415.221.4142 Sunday, May 30th - Memorial Weekend Trance & Jungle Factory presents Man on the Moon Memorial Thomas Trouble, DJ "D", Phat Pat, Vertigo, many more!. Don't forget you've got Monday off!! So get your dancin shoes on and join in the trance family festivities. This is going to be a small party with limited pre-sales. Please check back later for more information! Big Heart City, SF. 415.248.2669 Friday, June 4th - DSC14 Records 1999 Label Launch Tour Fierce, Trace, MC Rymetyme. This legendary session will consist of three of the Tech Step sound originators dropping some serious lessons on the unsuspecting masses... Local Phunkateck member Jason Mouse will be opening up the night hosted by Eklektic and Groundscore. @ the bassment 1015 Folsom., 1015 Folsom, SF. Friday, June 4th - Garnet and B.A.S.S. Kru presents Tommy Gun jungle w/, RINSE, NOEL, PUSH, HAK, JONTE, RUE, RUSSELL G. 18+, $8. 78 Minna, SF. 415.436.0735 415.332.5800 ext247 Friday, June 4th - Atlantis Takes You on a Groove Ride Jeno (Wicked, SF), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records & Quest, SF) , Tracy (Daddy's Records & Quest, SF), fabuLizz (SF), Girl Friday (SF), Sonic Oddyssey (SF), Caine (Silver Pearl & Quest, SF). Visuals by Nystagmus. 415.339.8123 Friday, June 4th - Rendezvous (ran da voo) A Beautiful San Francisco Trance Family Gathering! Lets Rendezvous all night with lots of love and music. See you there! 2 Rooms that will feature:, Thomas Trouble (Trance & Jungle Factory), DJ "D" (T&J Factory), Mars (Frequency 8), Mystre (F-8), Phat Pat (all the way from the U.K.), Amber (Bay Area UG), Vertigo, Tracer (San Francisco UG), Uphonic (E.T.A.), Joaqman (T&J Factory), Saucee (S.F.), Introducing Grant! (San Jose). This is a must attend party with lots to remember! Limited Pre-Sale Tickets go on sale May 10th for Only $19. Door will be $22, this party will take place at awesome facility but we do recommend Pre-Sale 13-at the Following Locations: Berkeley T&J Factory (510)704-9876, Santa Rosa Harmonics (707)571-8747 San Fran Frequency 8 (415)441-4142, Modesto Motion Music (209)577-6965 San Jose Solid Grooves (408)248-6399, Hayward Twilight Zone (510)538-7945. 415.721.3863 Friday, June 4th - Bliss DJ's House: , Johnny Fiasco (Chicago), Terry Mullan (CHicago) and Halo (Chicago) on 4 decks, Steve Loria (L.A.) and Tony on 4 decks, Donald Glaude (Seattle), Hippie (Denver), Rick V. and Dizzy on 4 decks, Karizma, Vince, Paul Gordon, Markus, Sugar D., Bryen, And IN THE JUNGLE ROOM:, Danny tha WIldchild (Chicago) and Phantom 45 (Chicago) on 4 decks, Dara (N.Y.), Flux w/ Jamalski, Presha and Stompa on 4, B-SIde, Ivry, Rif.... Held @ Cal Expo on in buildings A and B....All 3 rooms of sound will be covered by Mark Wayne.. Laser by Hollywood Dog...Visuals by I-Candy and L.S.D., Atmosphere by Funky Baby and A super large Chill Zone by Vega.... Presale Locations: In Tha MIx, Sacramento, 2329 I St. (916)442-0499, Solid Grooves 368 S. Bascom St., San Jose, (408)999-0259 Rock On, Fairfield, 1630 North Texas St. (707)422-2080, Motion Music, Modesto, 403 coffee St. (209)577-6965, Housewares, San Francisco, 1322 Haight st., (415) 252-1440 $25 @ the door and we have Very Limited 20 dollar Pre-sales . Sacramento. 916.554.0885 415.248.2678 408.920.2280 Saturday, June 5th - Blue Room & EyePhunk presents And Now! TIP Records UK (The Infinity Project), Techno/Trance DJ's, Lucas (MetalSpark- Blue Room NL), Dimitri, D.K.N. (TIP Rec./10Kilo UK), Adam Ohana (EyePhunk/BlueRoom/Ceiba) , Amazing Decor by Brahmas (TIP.UK), Drum & Space from Outer Bass DJ's, UFO (Phunckateck), Abstract (Phunckateck), Push (FutureBreaks Fm), Noel (Phunckateck), ArcAngel GabeReal (Future Breaks FM), Down Tempo Groovers, Lorin (Koinonea), Rob Rayle (Bufo/CeibaRec.), Surreal (EyePhunk/BlueRoom), Anon (EyePhunk/BlueRoom). Live: Synchro (TIP Rec./10Kilo UK), GMS (growling mad scientists-TIP Rec. UK). Celebrating the release of Ceiba Records, Miditation- Digital & Peaceful. 10pm-7am, 21+. $15 @ the entry portal. 550 Barneveld, SF. 1.888.682.7666 Saturday, June 5th - Gummiravers Thomas Trouble, Dj D. , Troy Roberts (Seattle), Tom Slik (Skills, Vertigo, SF), Dj Grant (San Jose), Dj Alert (SF). Flavored Raver productions presents a small, full-on candy trance party with the candy crowd's favorite twosome - Thomas Trouble and Dj D. Tickets: $15 pre-sale at Frequency 8, Trance and Jungle Factory, Solid Grooves, Harmonics. Big Heart City, 5th and Mission, SF. 415.267.3925 Saturday, June 5th - northbaycollective presents presents *S*H*I*N*E* 4 Rooms of Phunk. please call for more info. http://www.greenfieldgraphix.com/nbc.html 707.579.9688 Saturday, June 5th - Sister d&b room:, XJS, Alley Cat, Melanie (SF House Collective), Miss E (Future Breaks FM), House & Techno room: , Forest Green (techno west/cloud factory), Lori & Tracy. Sound by: cloud sound. Cross Street: Masonic. 21+. 1751 Fulton St., SF. http://www.xanthoria.com 415.255.4333 Saturday, June 5th - GoodeTyme Entertainment presents AMNESIA GoodeTyme Entertainment bring to you a Music lovers delight with reowned DJ's as follows: ONIONZ (ELECTRIC SOUL/Imperial Dub/Chocolate Factory- NYC), DORAN (Fragrant Music/RAM), JIM HOPKINS (Twitch/V-Wax/ELECTROLINERS,-SF), TONY (The Gatherings, SF), HAPPY KID MARTY (Happy Kids- SF), DJ TECHNIQUE (CLOCKWORK DJ's/Journeez Music), Homero X-Pinosa (GoodeTyme DJ's), Pistachio + Aonymous(Math Sound Workshop), Tracy (Sister/Daddy's Records), Jesse (the crate). Fully permitted and secure venue with over 40,000 square feet. 2 rooms +1 outside area. Industry-(promoters, venders, Art donations) 415.563.7777 $15. A limited number of $15.00 presale tickets will be on sale starting May 3. Door price will be $20.00. . http://www.GoodeTyme.com 415.674.1111 Saturday, June 5th - E.T.A. presents Monument to Eternity A Hard Trance Rising Event Uphonic, Kemical Kidd, Tracer, Dyloot, Depth, DJ D. This is a limited capacity, pre-sale only event. For more information please call our voice mail. 415.364.1803 Friday, June 11st - VORG presents BREATHE A very special party at a once again brand spankin', fresh, new location!!! More TBA. 415.750.3100 Saturday, June 12nd - Curtis Bay's 1-Man Show of Organic Trip-Hop/Hip-Hop/Jazz/Drum-n-Bass is Curtis Bay, along with turntable madness of Intangible from Seattle, WA. 8mm 'Fly the Rhythm' Film Loops by Aermaneuver AKA Ariel Levy Contact the TongueBath Tub at kimgerly@holonet.net for info. 10pm-1:30am, . Cafe Du Nord, 2170 Market St., SF. Saturday, June 12nd - Uniting Souls presents presents SoundTextures Come feel the abstract sounds of the San Francisco underground! World renowned MARK Grant (Cajual/ Guidance Records), internationally acclaimed GEMINI aka, Spencer Kinsey (Cajual/Cyclo/Classic Records), Uniting Souls' much loved resident, DJ Moses will start off the night with a pumping 2 hour set. We're moving to keep you grooving to the 2nd Saturday of every month. For this special occasion we bring you two Chicago house legends performing together for the first time ever! We'll see you on the dancefloor! Tune into KALX 90.7 FM on Thursdays 12 - 3:00pm to win free passes. Between 3rd and 4th off Townsend. Email Us 10pm-4am, 21+, $12. 330 Ritch Street., SF. 415.273.5449 510.273.2493 Saturday, June 12nd - Silver Pearl Records presents QUEST Summer Solstice Guiding your Quest from dusk 'til dawn on 4 thumping sound systems with DJS: Jeno (Wicked, SF), Doran (Rampant Records and Hook Recordings, LA), Christopher Lawrence (Hook Recordings and Fragrant, LA), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records, SF), Steve Loria (Bang the Drum, LA), Barry Weaver (Funky Techno Tribe, Seattle), Astral Matrix (O.O.B.E. Music, SF), Jason Blakemore (Life Music, Aquarium, aka DJ Trance, LA), Tony (The Gathering, SF), Donald Glaude (Funky Teckno Tribe, Seattle), Caine (Silver Pearl, SF), MODA (Trancefusion Records), Greg Sandler (Harmony, SF), Tom LG (Silver Pearl, SF), Tracy (Sister and Quest, SF), Dieselboy (611 Records, Philadelphia), Rinse & Flux with MC Jamalski (B.A.S.S. Kru and Compound Records, SF), R.A.W. (Mictlan Recordings, LA), NMAN (Biofonik and Silver Pearl, SF), J-Bot (Harmonics, Santa Rosa), Incredible Ambient Chamber with:, B))merang and Triad, Many more to be announced.. As always, we will have amazing visuals in each and every room, thumping sound systems by Silver Pearl and JK, lasers in 2 rooms by UV99, environment by Silver Pearl, and incredible floral art by Anthony Ward of PassionFlora NYC. We will have a wonderful clean safe warehouse, plenty of FREE fruit arranged into beautiful edible altars, and lots of free water. Limited pre-sale tickets will be available May 15th at the following Bay Area locations... and remember, the first 500 pre-sale tickets will receive a FREE mix CD courtesy of Silver Pearl Records: Solid Grooves, San Jose (408) 248-6399, Daddy's Records, Berkeley (510) 665-1653, Harmonics, Santa Rosa (707) 571-8747, In the Mix, Sacramento (916) 442-0499, F-8, San Francisco (415) 221-4142, Compound Records, San Francisco (415) 864-8309, Pipeline, Santa Cruz (831) 425-7473, or by mail from Silver Pearl Records by e-mailing contact@silverpearl.com. http://www.silverpearl.com 415.273.5912 510.287.5620 408.278.5286 Saturday, June 12nd - Skills invites all a smiling to A STARRY NIGHT With very special guests from L.A., Thomas Michael, Thee-O, Demigod, Plus all your favorite local DJ's -, Dyloot, Tom Slik, Mars & Mystre, Radley, Thomas Trouble, DJ D, Uphonic & Kemical Kidd, Tracer & Telene, Happy Kid Marty & Happy Kid Ian.. 415.437.4460 510.869.4601 Saturday, June 12nd - Oblivion Melanie (SF), Keith O Reilly. For more info please email OblivianSF@hotmail.com For more information, please call: 579 Howard, SF. http://www.OblivionSF.com 415.339.8784 Sunday, June 13rd - Raver Day at Great America Fun in the Sun!. Meet @ the front gate @ 11am. Great America, Great America Parkway, Santa Clara. Friday, June 18th - The creators of Foundation, All in the Family, Emerald City and the creators of K2 presents United. In our House room, Jeno (Wicked, Gathering, SF), Eric Nelson (Love Affair), Sol (Togetha), Tyler (Motorway), Markus Mark, JP (Kick Drum), In the Drum and Bass room, Hans (Motorway), Stompa (Pbs), Billy (916 Junglist), Patr!c (Vega.) , Special Guest MC Shock G (A.K.A. Humpty) with Money B from Digital Underground. Visuals by Eyelusions.Call Down Town Sounds for information and presale tickets 916-444-7639. 916.523.0027 Friday, June 18th - OPEN HOUSE presents Strictly Underground w/ your Open House Supastars: Serendipity, Unity, Styven & Scott Bliss, along with Guest Djs:, Evillyn (blessing us with her presence all the way from HAWAII), Joey Mazzola (Influence Recordings), Jason (Unite Prod.), Ryan Christopher, Levi, Secret Squirrel, Pengo, Gilad (5D), DevDawg (Roswell/McDonald Foundation), LadyJane tha' pimptress w/ MC Ragga Banton, Aspect(I.B.S), MES (Daddy's Records,KICK DRUM), and more TBA. $12 presale tickets are now available at: Daddy's Records (Berkeley) and Primal Records (Berkeley). First come first serve. THIS EVENT WILL SELL OUT!!!! *This is a 225 person max capacity party* Much love to all! And remember always, KEEP IT UNDERGROUND!! 225 presale tickets. SF. 510.288.7676 Friday, June 18th - Counterpoint Productions presents Commence More TBA, Housewaves and Trancefrequencies by BARRY WEAVER (Funky Techno Tribe, LA), THOMAS TROUBLE (Trance and Jungle Factory, SF), TONY (The Gathering, SF), RIG-A-TONY (Sagitariun), TYLER (Counterpoint), DENNIS (THC), DJ SCOTT (Kick Drum), SCI FI, DAVID, DJ GLOW. LASERS by HOLLYWOOD DOG, THUNDERING SOUND by COMMUNITY, FREE FRUIT and CANDY, 2 ROOMS. 9pm-6am, All ages. $12 w/ canned food $15 w/ out. Sacramento. http://counterpoint.sacone.com 916.783.9948 916.866.3266 Saturday, June 19th - Uniting Souls presents Housepitality "Like we always do about this time! TBA. A night full of rythmns that'll make you cream. 9pm-2am, . free b4 10pm.. Rico's Loft, 78 Minna st., SF. 415.273.5449 510.273.3493 Saturday, June 19th - Magic Playground Mix Master Mike, Jeno, U.F.O, Taj, Abstract, Tony, Mechete, Star Eyes, Rick V, Rktech, Kenneth Paul . Flat-presale will be released 2nd week of May. Turbo Sound System. Discount tickets for $20, 15 light shows, bounce castles,ball huts,the wall of velcro as well as a full turbo sound system.....give aways in our dance competion on our linolium dance floor. Fully Permitted 10pm-6am, $25. JACKSON STREET WAREHOUSE, 225 Jackson St, Oakland. http://www.magicplayground.com Saturday, June 19th - Feel Good Entertainment presents Splendor Blender : "Its time to get your mix on". The Summer Solstice PLURity Vibe-Fest. the First Ever : With 6 Incredible Rooms of Splendid Music, Deepsky - Live PA (Fragrant Records, LA), DJ D:FUSE (Expansion Project, Funked Up Records, Austin TX), Moda & Jazz-E, DJ Kevin Kind & Kwashi, Mike Barrett & Kid Bippy, Eric Spire, MC Ray Vonie, Joey Mazzola & David Garcia, Ghost & Frank Nitty, DJ Liquid & DJ RKTECH, Greg Sandler & Logik, Thomas Trouble & DJ D, Corey & Brent Vassar, BluTonic (Universe, Ministry Of Sound, UK), Rinse & Flux, Hak & Siphon, Sideburn Slim, Jeff Taisch, Turtle, MC Duh, Deepfog, B))merang, Triad, Bodhi, Skye, DJ Phelan, Joaqman, Kid Loose & Rossi, DJ Mad Merc, Joe Lanzon, Randy H., Willow, Shubert, The Higlanders : DJs Tomcat & Saucer, Supernatural Turntable Artists DJs , Relm, Swiftrock, Streak, Deus, Jahrome, Ajaxxx, DJ Derrick D, Scotty Fox, SunnMoonSekt (Performing Live), DJ Quest, J-Wicked, Rasta Cue Tip, Fashion with Passion (Interactive Multi-media Rave-Fashion Expo), BeatDown Sundaze Afterparty: DJs:, Paucus, Tripnotix, Gran-T, Breeze, Ulrich, DJ Prophet + Guests. A Limited Number of Discounted $25 discounted Pre-sale tickets go on sale May 21st. For Pre-sale ticket info please see http://www.sfrecords.com or http://www.tixtogo.com/go/feelgood Summer Solstice PLURity Vibe-Fest A portion of Proceeds will Benefit Oakland Outreach & Educational Programs. Next door to the Coliseum. Doors at 10pm sharp. Party goes All-Night Long and afterparty till Sunday Night!!! http://www.globalparty.com Keep It Real Good With Feel Good. A GlobalParty production - The big party with that small party feel. Oakland International Rave Center, 633 Hegenberger Rd. 415.263.0483 408.881.0785 510.888.2358 Saturday, June 19th - FREQUENCY 8 4 year Anniversary Celebration Summer Solstice Campout Weekend Mars, Mystre, Dyloot, Micron, Tracer, Radley, Uphonic, Telene, Greg Sandler. Saturday June 19th- Sunday 20th. Very limited pre-sale tickets avaliable at F-8, Harmonics, and Solid Grooves. http://www.frequency-8.com 415.541.5019 415.541.5863 415.541.5019 415.541.5863 Sunday, June 20th - Hi Rise productions and Existential Sounds presents Backflip 2 year anniversary - Love and War Garth (Wicked), Jone`ne` (Stompy Hi-Fi), Markie (Wicked), Tasho (Stompy Hi-Fi), Jeno (Wicked), Preston (Stompy Hi-Fi), Moses (Sunshine Daydream), Girl Friday (Uniting Souls), fabuLizz (Uniting Souls), Seven (Hi Rise), Sol (Hi Rise), Michael Tello (Housepitality), Dave Chapman (Legion of Funk), Peterbilt (Hi Rise), Jason Henry (Legion of Funk), Push (Future Breaks), Miss E (Eklectik), PBS crew (Arc Angel Gabe Real, NoBattles, and Mateo), Jin (HiRise), Le'Le' (Legion of Funk). Tickets will go on sale Saturday, April 24 at local record stores: Tweekin Records, Housewares, Clear Records, Big Daddy's (Berkeley), and Primal Records (Berkeley). With food and festivities both indoors and by the pool. 12 pm-2am, . $10 in advance and $15 at the door. . Thursday, June 24th - XTORT Productions presents AMOEBA Simon Apex (SSU), Sascha23 (Xtort), dB (Xtort), Glow (Xtort), Dj Chad (Xtort/Alpha Zone). DIRECTIONS: Take I-80 east toward Reno, exit right on Madison, left on Auburn, right on Garfield. Turn left into first parking lot; building in back. First 50 people walk away with FREE promotional material from various record labels. FREE videogame booths provided by GAME-MASTERS. As always this is an ALL AGES event. Doors are open at 9PM so come early to beat the rush. Tickets: $8 at the door all night (come early to gaurantee entry :o). sacramento. http://home.earthlink.net/~sascha23 916.334.6200 Friday, June 25th - Nocturnal Productions presents X.O.X Returns 3 Year Anniversary Frankie Bones 2x4, Tony vs. Simon 2x4, Jim Hopkins, Mike Barrett, Leo, Dj Champ, Corey 2x4, Anton vs. Kwashi 2x4. Jungle and Trance lip TBA ASAP. Pre-sale tickets will only be $17. This event will sell out so please if you really want to go, please buy your presales. This event will be in a permitted location in a secure area. More info will be posted by the middle of may. This event will be my own pre-Freedom adventure. Friday, June 25th - climaXXX productions presents THUNDERDOME Trance:, Heidi & Anakin (Rebel Sound Alliance), DJ D (T&J Factory), Bryan Lee (Global Energy Music, SF/LA), DJ Eyal (Global Energy Music, Fragrant, Phatt Phunk Records, LA), Happy Kid Ian (Happy Kids), DJ 725 (Kuang Mark, XI), Happycore & Jungle:, Nebula (climaXXX), Simon Apex (Alpha Magic Recordings, UK) _-VS-_ DJ Nimh (Happy4Beat, Phoenix, AZ), DJ ansi (R.A.S.H., Redemption), DJ climaXXX (climaXXX). This will all go down in Berkeley, CA-400 person capacity. Free H2O, outdoor chill space, and more surprises... $10 Presale, $12 at the door. Presales available at Isolate Records, 2114 Addison, Berkeley.. 510.726.1303 Friday, June 25th - Squeeze Adnan, Nathan, Ray . In the Blue Room @ Nikita. 12 midnight-4am, 21+. 1015 Folsom, 1015 Folsom, SF. 415.789.7208 Saturday, June 26th - BIO.LOGIC Wichdokta, Random, MRK, Micron, Oz, Blake, Nagual, R2-Witco, Anon, Eva, The 5lower Shop, Lorax, Sonja, Matt, Sha-Wan, more to come. Three rooms in the North Bay. Saturday, June 26th - The müvmental Collective presents Reality Used to be a Friend of Mine Juan Atkins (Metroplex/TVT/WaxTrax/R&S Records), ANI (On-E) formerly of DEEE LITE (zoo york media), Barry Weaver (Funky Tekno Tribe), DRC (Twin Soul Productions), Sleepy C (psycoactive/AVA), Jeff Samuel (Lo-Fi Record/Nonstatic), DJ Ghost (Ghostribe Krew), Rinse & Flux w/ MC Jamalski (B.A.S.S. KRU), Smalls & 7UP (5 star productions), Dyloot (Skills/Mhz), Shakes (müvmental), Mua'dib (müvmental). This party is dedicated to all the kids who know where the Vibe lives. Presale outlets: F-8 Compound Records, Solid Grooves, In the Mix, Trance & Jungle Factory, Harmonics. We come together to create something beautiful out of love. http://www.muvmental.com 415.789.7366 510.273.2435 Saturday, June 26th - Harmony More information TBA. Friday, July 2nd - T r a n q u i l i t y presents WELCOME TO TRANQUILITY An out door underground event pushing the power of trance. Alias (Tranquility, Question Mark Productions), Mystre (F-8), Uphonic (E.T.A.), Telene, Merlyn (V.O.R.G.). 200 limited $10 pre-sales ONLY. 415.435.7567 Saturday, July 3rd - July 4th - 8TH ANNUAL FREEDOM FESTIVAL Line-up T.B.A.. Flyers out soon. 415.905.8888 Friday, July 9th - Garnet presents Double Trouble Part I jungle with, Dieselboy, Fury, Flux, Rinse, Saucer + Tomkat, Rue, MC Jamalski. 415.436.0735 Friday, July 9th - children of the sun presents Sunshine Of Your Love a summertime celebration of love, life, and happiness... 415.835.3144 Saturday, July 10th - CoolWorld Productions Present... presents CYBERFEST '99 America's biggest allnight dance & music festival just got bigger... Chemical Brothers, Nizam, BT, Goldie, Josh Wink, Dj Rap, Planet Asia, Dj Dan, Felix Da Housecat, Richard ("Humpty Vission" Mariner, Florida), Roy Davis Jr.(Easedrop, Florida), Spacetime Continuum, Lost At Lost, Garth,, Raymond Roker, Liquid, EFX, Big Ed & M2000, Reza (LA), Thomas Michael, Simon, Dj Bizz (Texas), Chris Specht (Texas), Ghost, Frank Nitty, Eric Spire, Pete Avila, Darkhorse, St john, Adam, Greg Sandler, Eric Brown, Happy Kid Marty, Happy Kid Ian, DJ Rktech, Dj Mad Merc, Kevin Kind, Mrs. Knight, Wish FM, Mike Bee, Sea, Sideburn Slim, Professor Smith, Siren Sifu, Profit, Dj Griff, Kwashi, David Garcia, more TBA. The 6th annual Future music festival a massive 12 hour festival of the future celebrating life through music and uniting the entire Universe... San jose, CA. USA). 250 Mindblowing Acres of Freedom to dance with 40,000 music revellers...7 entertainment arenas, a raging funfair with wild and interactive rides Exteme sports with the worlds biggest Half pipe and much, much more... 5pm-6am, . Santa Clara County Fairgrounds in the heart of Silicon Valley, 344 Tully Road, San Jose. http://www.coolworldprod.com 415.979.4543 408.235.1077 510.273.9542 Saturday, July 10th - TRANCE AND JUNGLE FACTORY presents Man in the Moon Reunited Thomas Trouble, Dj D, Eric Spire, Mars, Mystre, Dyloot, Tom Slik. Please check back soon for a huge line-up. Capacity is limited 2000 people, so please purchase your pre-sale tickets early. 415.248.2669 Saturday, July 10th - Forever Young Robbie Long vs. Devestate (Next Generation, UK) Happy Hardcore FIRST U.S APPEARANCE!!, SIMON APEX (Alpha Magic, UK) vs. DJ NIMH (Happy 4 Beats, Phoenix AZ), ANDY vs. B2B JOSH (Sac.), APOLLO SMILE (Forever Young, Sac.), DJ HERETIC (119 Crew, LA) vs. RIFF (Sac.) Jump up Jungle, DEMIGOD (Industrial Strength, LA) DUTCH (Happy Gabber), RON D. CORE (Freeclouds Mixinglab, LA) Terrorcore, IMIX (Navigator, Sac.) Live P.A Speed Garage, MOE (Sac.), RICKY RICARDO (Loolipop, Chico), JASON-WHO (Fuzze, Sac.), BLAKE (N.B.C), TANK (Sac.). All night, free fruit, free water, and free stuff for early birds. Please come with your open minds, smiles, and get ready to dance! *limited Presale at Subsonic Underground Record Store, Sac. 9pm-8am, $15. Sacramento. 916.603.2866 Saturday, July 10th - 6 in da mornin productions presents Ground Zero 4: Judgement Night - The Final Chapter (6AM 3 Year Anniversary) TBA. World Class dj lineup and live acts to be unveiled on Saturday, April 3rd 1999. Promoters and vendors please contact 6AM on the industry line (800) 683-4569. Except no imitations. 415.995.1940 Friday, July 16th - July 18th - BioLogic presents biological a two day, two soundsystem campout adventure TBA. All profit from this event will be donated to drawbridge, an arts program for homeless children. (this party should not be confused with the Full Circle Productions party in the North Bay,"bio.logic") Friday, July 16th - Garnet presents Double Trouble Part II jungle with, Danny the Wildchild, Phantom 45, Dr. Groo, Rinse, Flux, MC Jamalski. 415.436.0735 Saturday, July 17th - Torque Productions presents Zodiac House:, Terry Mullan (Catalyst Records/Speaker Freakers/H-Project/Moody, Chicago), vs. Halo (Catalyst Records/Speaker Freakers/H-Project/Moody, Chicago), vs. Hipp-E (H-Project/Catalyst/Moody, Denver/SD), Ty Tek (Teknight Records/Basic Entertainment/Torque Resident, Denver), vs. Little Mike (Basic Entertainment, Denver), Mike Barrett (SF) VS. Kid Bippy(SF), Tracer (Skills, SF) VS. Torque(Torque Resident, SF), Rick V. (Torque Resident,Sac) vs. Bryan, Drum and Bass:, Fury (Lower World, Denver), Deacon (Wreck Ignition/Ch. 36, L.A.), Rinse and Flux (Seperate sets-SF B.A.S.S. Kru/Compound Records), Sage (Eklektic Resident, SF), Rue (Compound Records, SF), Sharp (Torque Resident, SF), Siren (SF), DJ Dot Com (aka Kid Bippy, SF), Havoc (SF). Limited Pre-sale tickets available for $20 @ Housewares (SF), Compound Records (SF), Trance and Jungle Factory (Berkeley), Daddy's Records (Berkeley), In tha Mix (Sac), Solid Grooves (San Jose) Harmonics (Santa Rosa)-Rock On (Fairfield) 415.345.9668 Saturday, July 17th - INNER EYE presents oOo AREA 51 oOo ((((((CONTACT)))))) TBA. We are organizing this event to be the most epic event of the summer... Top secret information will be released on May 1st, until then all info is CLASSIFIED... Stay tuned in... Friday, July 23rd - Red Skye Productions presents Scoobi Snack Henrik Rosdahl (no tv, SF ), Crom , Charlotte the Baroness (Sunburn Hardkiss, SF), David Michael (Phasedmusic, Wish, Spundae, SF), Hank the guy with records , 707.793.2150. North Bay Location. Advance tics @ f8 and harmonics. Rumor has it Dave n Char are going 2by4 for 3 hours hmmmm.... $7. Sunday, July 23rd - FREQUENCY 8 Stay Tuned In Mars, Mystre, Dyloot. FREE Daytime Event in Golden Gate Park 1-6pm. More TBA. 415.541.5019 Friday, July 23rd - Megahertz presents 80MHz Dyloot, Aspect, Radley Marx, Elias Smith.. more TBA http://www.mhz.nu/80mhz 415.395.8448 Saturday, July 24th - Unity Vibe Tribe presents NETWORK Eric Micheal (Unity Vibe), LSDJ (Unity Vibe) , Moda (Transfusion), N8 (Unity Vibe). Unity Vibe Tribe invites you to join us NETWORK Together, To Understand a higher level of Electronic music. This line up is far from being completed..Please check with our voice lines 4 more information..This event will be dedicated 4 those that Truly appreciate Electronic music..100% pure vibe fully permited, enormous capacity. Saturday, July 24th - Open House w/your Open House Dj's: Scott Bliss, Serendipity, Styven & Unity, along with Guest Dj's: , Woodrow Low (A.M. Prod., Seattle), Jon Lee (Concepts, Seattle), Mes (Daddy's, Kick Drum), Joey Mazzola (Influence Recordings), Secret Squirrel, Jason (Unite Prod.), Gilad (5D), more TBA!!. Much love to all! And remember always, KEEP IT UNDERGROUND!!. SF location. 18+. (pre-sale tix available soon!). SF. 510.288.7676 Saturday, July 24th - @spire, 2 years in the making... We're back... Tell a friend! HK Marty (Happy Kids Productions), HK Ian (Happy Kids Productions), Carlos (N.Y. / S.F. House Collective), Greg Sandler (Harmony / Harmonics), Li (Harmony), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records / Quest), Pistachio & Anonymous (Math Sound Workshop / @spire), Logic (North Bay Collective), DRC (Twin Souls Productions), Gianni (Harmonics / Spundae / Release), Theo (Biohazard / Base 9, L.A.). We're back... Tell a friend! More information coming soon! 100% permitted in a centralized Bay Area location. 10pm-6am, . 415.273.5513 415.273.5513 Friday, July 30th - AmenSpecialistsCrew presents Irrepresseble TBA. Two rooms with jungle and breakbeat/house Sacramento. Friday, July 30th - SKILLS presents Cake Walk Dyloot, Tom Slik, Radley, Mars & Mystre, Ron Allyn. Full EAW sound by JK. 5 watt argon laser by UV99. Lighting by Impact. Intellabeams by Math Workshop. Glow by SKILLS, Free candy, fruit & H20. 100% fully permitted & secured. Thanx to all who have supported us, please come with open minds. 10pm-6am, $11. pre-sale ONLY! @ F8, T&J Factory, Solid Grooves, Harmonics and In tha Mix.. 415.437.4460 510.869.4601 Saturday, July 31st - Mytical Mayhem Productions (Co originator of Rebirth) presents Serenity Ghost (Ghostribe), Greg Sandler (Harmony & Harmonics, SF), Moda (Transfusion), Gianni (Release, & Spundae, SF), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records & Quest, SF), Joey Mazzola (Housenation, Influence Recordings), DJ Doubt (Influence Recordings, Housenation), MC Jamalski (B.A.S.S. Kru, SF), Prophet (Transfusion), Hak, Siphon & Sideburn Slim, Angry Kid Spek vs. Danja (Ghostribe), Kevin Kind (FGE), Kwashi (FGE), Turtle (Mixology), Eric Brown (Rebirth & Harmonics), Moshe (SF), Thomas Trouble (T&J Factory, More TBA, including a surprise out of town Trance DJ. SilverPearl Sound and others.. For information please call Lighting by Stimulites and others. Lasers. Free Fruit, Lemonade, Candy and raver bag o tricks with glow sticks to the first 500 people. CD giveaways. AromaTherapy Environment. Buy tickets on line @ tixtogo.com 10pm-6am, . 415.789.7344 408.882.5090 415.789.7344 408.882.5090 Saturday, July 31st - Full Circle Reunion - TechNique James Christian (NYC), Vicious Vic (NYC), Tony, Garth, Simon, DJ Matthew, with more T.B.A.. More info on the way! Sunday, August 1st - Existential Sounds presents... presents Birth...a celebration of Life. Garth (Wicked), Markie (Wicked), John Howard (Heavy Rotation), Chang (Simons, Gainesville, FL), Three (Hallucinations Records, Tampa, FL), Brian Busto (The Rubb, Tampa, FL), and more TBA. . An indoor/outdoor event featuring an art show. (between Potrero and Utah) Art show from 3PM-8PM. Music from 2PM-2AM. Tickets available May 31, 1999. Buses to the location: 33 Stanyan 22 Fillmore 9 San Bruno. email: avatarz@earthlink.net avatarz@earthlink.net or salivatethurs@hotmail.com Tickets available at Tweekin' Records, Housewares, Big Daddys (Berkley), and Primal Records (Berkley). Free before 4 pm, $8 in advance, $15 at the door. . IL Pirata, 2007 16th St, SF. 415-626-2626. Saturday, August 7th - Torque Productions presents Leo House:, CZR (MCM TOUR... Subliminal Records, Moody, Catalyst; Chicago), Angel Alanis (MCM TOUR... Chicago), Halo (MCM TOUR... Chicago), Chris Irvin (Satelite Records; NYC), Ty Tek (Teknight Records, Basic Entertainment, Torque Resident; Denver), Torque vs. Tracer (Torque Residents; SF), Rick V. (In tha Mix, Torque Resident; Sac), Fabuliz (Consciouness Session; SF), ***More TBA***, Drum and Bass:, Danny tha Wildchild (MCM TOUR... Good Boys, Camouflage Sound System; Chicago), 3D (MCM TOUR... Forte Records; Chicago), Fury (Lower World; Denver), Rinse vs. Flux (S.F. B.A.S.S. Kru, Compound Records), Sharp (Torque Resident; SF), Satori C (Humble Souls, M.E.S.S., Basic Entertainment, Torque Resident; Denver), ***More TBA***. Saturday, August 7th - Space Children's 4th Annual Juggernaut Festival! Tim Taylor (Missle Rec. UK), Cesar, Twerk, Greg Sandler x Dutch, Mars x MystrE, UFO x Noel, PBS Crew. Live: Spacetime Continuum, Crash Worship, Cosmic Selector x Buna, BazZaRrO. Much, much more TBA, get ready for something EPIC this summer!!! We've missed you, and we can't wait to party with you all again. *Keep in touch with our info sources, we've got a couple of free parties coming soon... http://www.spacechildren.com 415.675.4700 Saturday, August 7th - Native Vision Productions presents The Prophesee DJ LINE UP & MORE INFO TO FOLLOW IN JUNE . We Invite you to celebrate the remembrance of the Prophecy that made the world what it is today. The Prophecy goes like this: In the beginning we sat in a circle to share and remand as one with each other and Mother Earth, then the creator came down and split us up in to the red, white, yellow, and black we were all to accomplish a certain number of things then come back into the circle and share. We need to remember the root of it all. So we the people for the Earth can live. http://www.globalparty.com/nvp/ 415.281.0777 Sunday, August 8th - 3horsemen Productions presents DAISY Thomas Trouble, D.J. D, Simon, Greg Sandler, Elias Smith, J-BOT.. A party with real heart. It's Daisy's birthday and she wants to see all those happy party friends of hers there. Join us in S.F. because the weekend is not over till it's over. With free snacks at 5PM and a hunken big cake at 6PM. We are all one big family kids so join us in celebrating Daisy's birthday and if your birthday is this weekend you get in free. Party is limited to 650 pre-sale tickets. At the door admittance as space becomes available. Get your $15 pre-sales at: Harmonics(Santa Rosa), Frequency 8(San Francisco),T&J Factory(Berkeley)"HAPPY BIRTHDAY DAISY" 4pm-4am, . http://www.3horsemen.com 415.721.3929 Friday, August 13rd - August 15th - Camp Harmony TBA. All weekend camping celebration!!! More information TBA. Friday, August 21st - Clockwork Eventz & Goode Tyme Entertainment presents The Vinyl Frontier with a world class line-up of DJ's from all around the world...not to be missed!!. 415.721.4713 408.747.7742 510.733.1140 Saturday, August 21st - FREQUENCY 8 Cybertrance Communication Stay Tuned In.. http://www.frequency-8.com 415.541.5019 415.541.5863 Friday, August 27th - August 28th - VORG presents A SPECIAL 2-DAY LAKESIDE CAMPOUT with amazing European live-performers. More TBA. 415.750.3100 Saturday, August 28th - Aliennation krew presents Abduction ! With the bay area's top dj's!, Tony, Simon, Frank Nitty, Joey Mazzola, Tripnotix, Paucus, Tommy Meyer, More t.b.a!. Main flyer coming in june 28, 1999!!! Saturday, August 28th - The Trance and Jungle Factory presents TICKLE 4 Extravaganza!!! Watch out for an amazing line-up!. More info t.b.a. 415.248-2669 Saturday, August 28th - InnerEye and (((THUMP))) Radio presents HALLUCINATION - 4th Annual pre-burningman trip-out HALLUCINOGEN - LIVE P.A. (Twisted Records, UK), TRISTAN (Twisted Records, UK), SIMON H. (Twisted Records, UK 1999 tour), PSY-WILD (213 Records), DUTCH (InnerEYE), others T.B.A. . 3 Areas,Techno/Trance room, Jungle/Breaks room, and Down Tempo/Ambient room. Amazing line-up and San Francisco Venue. More to come....... http://www.innereye.org 415.339.8082 510.595.5555 Saturday, September 4th - Feel Good Entertainment presents Megga-Buzz 4-U The 4th Annual Labor Day 3-Day Holiday Weekend PLURity Vibe-Fest! The Premier of local DJ Showcase. Buzz Line Birthday party celebration event. Keep it Real Good with Feel Good. http://www.globalparty.com Sunday, September 5th - DSM presents Sunny Daylight A fully permitted outdoor event featuring your favorite local house, jungle, and trance DJs. . More reports to follow... Friday, September 10th - (((THUMP))) Radio presents X-Dream!!! (blue room records) TBA. Check back soon for more info. Saturday, September 11st - We're celebrating another year with EARCANDY Mars (F8), Mystre (F8), Dutch (Area 51), Greg Sandler (Harmony), Uphonic (ETA), Dyloot (Skills), Tracer (EarCandy), Micron (Vibration), Happy Kid Ian (Happy Kids), more TBA. 415.281.8384 Friday, September 17th - Megahertz presents 100MHz Aspect, Radley Marx, Elias Smith, Dyloot, Special Guests.. more TBA http://www.mhz.nu/100mhz 415.395.8448 Saturday, September 18th - ASR 2 Year Anniversary Three room's of superb DJ's TBA..... This event will be in celebration of ASR's two year anniversary, therefore ASR will go back to it's roots, the Monterey Bay. Saturday, September 18th - Silver Pearl Records presents Quest TBA . Stay tuned for details... http://www.silverpearl.com 415.273.5912 510.287.5620 408.278.5286 Saturday, September 25th - Harmony Sixth Year Anniversary Celebration!!! TBA. More Information TBA Saturday, October 2nd - Mystical Mayhem line up TBA. Details TBA 415.789.7344 408.882.5090 Saturday, October 2nd - E.T.A. presents The Red Shift Info T.B.A.. Saturday, October 9th - Skills trance room:, Dyloot & Tom Slik, Radley Marx, Mars & Mystre, Thomas Trouble, Happy Kids Ian & Marty, hardcore/happyhardcore room: From L.A.- , Ron D. Core, Demigod, Paulina Taylor, Plus locals - , Aspect, Simon Apex, Uphonic. 415.437.4460 510.869.4601 Saturday, October 16th - The Trance and Jungle Factory presents *****TICKLE 5!!!***** TBA. watching this space... 415.248-2669 Saturday, October 23rd - Dub'L Vision Productions presents Tba Jeno (Wicked),, Tony (Gathering), Shubert (Dub'L Vision), Vertigo (Trance & Jungle Factory), Oddeci (Blankface), Keith Edwards (Chemistry) . Much much more Tba. Saturday, October 30th - Coolworlds Halloween Festival TBA. Location & World Class Lineup to be announced soon 415.979.4543 408.235.1077 Saturday, November 6th - Harmony TBA. More information TBA. Saturday, November 13rd - Silver Pearl Records presents Quest 2 Year Anniversary TBA . Stay tuned for details... http://www.silverpearl.com 415.273.5912 510.287.5620 408.278.5286 Saturday, November 20th - Pacific United Ravers (PÜR) presents AWAKEN DJs TBA SOON. What was once a dream, a vision, a fantasy has finally become a reality to the PuR family. Along the road to the making of this event we have had many supporters contributing and combining their thoughts, skills, and love just so you, the raver, can indulge in our makings. We will be having 2 rooms, Techno/Trance in one room and Hardcore in the other, we will also have a lovely Ambient room. We will be showcasing all your favorite local DJs as well as premiering our own resident DJs that we guarentee you will see or expierience more of in the future. We welcome you to the awakening of the PÜR Kru and the setting of the vibe for the 2000 underground party scene! Voice Mail coming very soon... Send mail to PuR_iNSaNaTee@yahoo.com Saturday, November 27th - Feel Good Entertainment presents The Spirit of Giving The 3rd Annual Thanksgiving 4-day Holiday Weekend Plurity Vibe-fest Keep it Real Good with Feel Good. http://www.globalparty.com W E E K L I E S House/techno/acid jazz/jungle/ambient/etc reg'lar happenins Some of them may have ended - let me know when that happens... Friday Jade - Jayvi Velasco (Resident), Pablo (Resident), deMILO. Future Guest Djs include: Joe Lanzon, Norm Stradley, Mykl, T.G. Boy, Adolph, Patrick Wilson. 9pm -, 21+. 175 North San Pedro, San Jose. 408.298.9299 888.882.21XL Deeper - Resident dj's, Laron, Ra-Soul, Laird. 917 Folsom St, SF. 415.273.1170 [5.21 - Mouse (Joy/Liquid), Laird & Buck] [5.28 - Felix the Dog (Black Diamond/Psychofunkdiscodelic)] The Bassment - Bringing in Top SF and International Drum & Bass Talent every week.... w/DJ TBA.. 11pm-3am, $10. Get a Bassment Flyer, bring it and avoid the lines(via vip line) & get a $2 discount before 12am. In the Bassment of 1015 Folsom, 1015 Folsom, SF. LIFE - Life SUCKS, and then theres Friday! w/DJ Mark Farina. Cross streeet: 4th. VIP Lounge and Oyster Bar. 10pm-, 21+, $10. Big Heart City, 836 Mission. Empire - DJ Party Ben. Empire, SF's own big-beat boutique At the corner of Third. Dj Party Ben, best known for his party reports on subsonic, will spin the sounds of Fatboy Slim, Chemical Brothers, Roni Size Reprazent, Prodigy and more. empire will also occasionally feature guest appearances from world renowned DJs. 9pm-2am., . Manhattan Lounge, 699 Market Street, SF. Dance Spirit - Leslie Shill. every first and third Friday evenings in april. $10. Nautilus Health Club, 4th street, San Rafael. Nikita - house, techno w/DJs Simon (Resident), Jeno (Resident), Jerry Bonham (Resident), Kayar (Resident for the drum & bassment), Kaos (Resident for the drum & bassment), Flux (Resident for the drum & bassment), Rinse (Resident for the drum & bassment). Broadcast live on the net at www.1015.com. Downstairs, Sticks and Stones- provacateurs of Bass present Drum + Bass with Resident Dj Kayar 10pm-6am, 21+, $10. Free before 10:30 PM. 1015 Folsom St, SF. http://www.spundae.com 415.267.0568 [6.11 - legendary club from England RENAISSANCE - Dave Seamen (England), Anthony Pappa (england)] [6.18 - Paul van Dyk (Germany)] [6.25 - DJ Wada (Japan)] [7.16 - Andrew Weatherhal (England)] [7.23 - Scott Henry (Baltimore)] [7.30 - Derrick Carter (Chicago), Stacey Pullen (Detroit)] RoaM - an evening of sophisticated deep house... w/DJs Chad Mitchell, JP Soul, Dan Smith. 21+, Free. Liquid, 2925 16th St, SF. 415.289.6833 Stir-Fri-Day - happy-hour eclectic grooves served up by resident beat chefs w/DJs Jason Fluid, Shaolin, Maneesh the Twister, Plus weekly guests. 5pm-9pm, 21+. Minna St Gallery, 111 Minna St, SF. 0 415.974.1719 Bohemian Lounge - Intergalactic Funk Collages w/DJs Toph2000, rotating guests Pollywog, Manny Rosa, Charlotte the Baroness, Consuelo (Kevin). 9ish-2am, 21+, Free. the gorgeously restored McCarthy's Bar, 2327 Mission @ 19th, SF. 415.332.5800x211 (redwine) Melon - house w/DJs Dano, JZ, guests. First Friday of each month in the blue Room @ Nikita. PLEASE NOTE: MELON WILL RESUME, June 4th, 1999. 11pm-5am, 21+. 1015 Folsom, SF. http://www.redmelon.com 415.561.9215 Angel - house, tribal house, funk, modern rock, trance, progressive house, deep house, house, trip hob, soul, beats w/DJs Harry Who?, Rick Preston, Guests djs. 6 Artistic Rooms featuring Funk, Trip Hop, R&B, Soul Classics, beats Modern Rock, Trance, Progressive House, deep House and House. 9pm-2am, 21+, $10. Club Ecco, 87 North San Pedro, San Jose. http://www.clubecco.com/days.htm 408.947.1667 408.793.0328 The Davis Family Happy Hour - Local Dj Superstars, The Davis-get-down-funky-like-that-crew. Your favorite brews on tap. 3pm-7pm, 18+, Free. UCD Silo Pub, Hutchinson Drive, Davis. http://www.geocities.com/Hotsprings/Falls/2500 Launch - It'll give sump'din foer da yung;unz to doc. w/DJs Resident Djs:, BombRocker (Pure Tryb, WC), Phil-e-Cheez (Walnut Creek), Weekly guests. 18 & under (if you can pass for under 18). House, Trance, Breaks, Jungle. 7:30pm-11:00pm, 18+, Free. Walnut Creek Civic Center, Civic Park, Walnut Creek. Saturday Housepitality - like we always do about this time w/DJs in the attic:, Jonene (Stompy), Jason henry (Salivate), Dj Riddler? (resident), in the insect lounge:, Push (Future Breaks 90.3 FM), Lo-ki (Koncrete Jungle), Dj Lexxus!. Every 1st and 3rd Saturday of the Month. Join us for a night of intense house and jungle rhythms! 9pm-2am, $10. free B4 10. 415.273.5449 510.273.2493 Tek-No-Bas - techno, jungle w/DJs Stealth, Danger. Expect to hear jungle, drum and base, and techno both Detroit and European. 9pm-2am, 21+. $5 cover from 10-2. Club 1028, 1028 Geary St., SF. Pablos Sugar Shack - Pablo's Resident DJs:, John Howard, Norman Stradley, Jellybear, Miguel Migs, Rasoul, Romanowski. Big Heart City, 836 Mission Street, SF. http://www.pablos.com [4.10 - Ellen Ferrato, Miss Megan] Other Whirled - House, Techno w/DJs Nobel, Vince, Christine, Daniel, Henrik, guests. saturday morning 5:30am-3pm, 21+. the EndUp, 6th Street @ Harrison, SF. 415.208.7665 Release - House, techno, jungle, funk, trip hop, disco w/DJs Doc Martin (1st Saturday each month), Marques Wyatt (2nd Saturday), Deep Dish (3rd Saturday), Terence Toy, Julius Papp, Behrouz, Tom Thump, Ellen Ferrato, Norm, Thomas Roberts, BB Hayes, Jason Edwards, Anthony Scott, Jerry Ross, Eric Lacy, Atom, DJ D, Gianni, special guests, Martin, Bruce, DeMilo. Release has a dress code. 10pm-9am, 21+, $10. 1015 Folsom, SF. http://www.sfstation.com/clubs/release.htm 415.281.0823 [5.29 - Farley & Heller begin their Mixer Magazine Tour] [6.12 - Marques Wyatt and Erick Morrillo] [6.19 - Deep Dish] [6.26 - CJ McIntosh] La Belle Epoque - 21st Century Drum n' Space w/DJs Mike Bee, Wish FM, Sea, guests. 10pm-2am, 21+. the Top, 424 Haight St, SF. Carry On - Underground house and garage music. w/DJ Mauricio Aviles. Cross Street: Howard. 10:30pm-4am, 21+, $8. Club Asia, 201 9th St., SF. Club Universe - Funk, House, High energy dance. w/DJ Special Guests and artists every week. 9:30pm-7am, 21+, $10. free b4 11pm. 177 Townsend, SF. 415.289.6650 FreeStyle - House and Funk w/DJs Christopher (Resident), Weekly Guests. Hosted by Mizz Ana Maronic. 21+, $5. free before 11pm. 399 9th St., SF. PUSH - house w/DJs your pushers, mouse, travis, chris orr. Matt valenz creates sonic sculpture for the dancefloor through the mediums of hi-tech deep house and technofunk. A popular underground affair attended by the city's most adventurous party people... this AIN'T the sound factory. Between Market and Mission. 9pm-2am, 21+, $7. Jessy Alley, SF. Plush - house, techno, trance, funk, trip hop, soul, beats, 70's w/DJs Resident Djs:, Thayton, Johnny, Julius Papp, Gianni (San Francisco), Scott DC (San Francisco), BBHayes, Guest from the bay area and around the world. Visuals by Jose G. Museo Contempo.Martini Bar on the Patio. Featuring the best Gin and Vodkas. Open for Happy Hour @ 5pm. No cover before 9:30pm. 4 Dance Areas featuring Funk, Trip Hop, R&B, Sould Classics, beats, 70's House, Trance Progressive House and Deep House. 21+, $10. Free before 9:30pm. Club Ecco, 87 North San Pedro, San Jose. http://www.clubecco.com/days.htm 408.947.1667 408.793.0238 Tricorder - downtempo, hiphop, electro, breakbeat w/DJs marlo, monkey, flint, special guests.. Teetotling our way through the classics you've never heard before. Every 1st and 3rd Saturday Located on 24th between Mission and Valencia. 9pm-2am, 21+, $1. The Attic, 3336 24th Street, SF. http://www.shooby.com/tricorder Wicked Session One - drumnbass, ambient, hiphop w/DJs Sep (turntables), Stephen Kent (digeridoo), Peter Valsamis (percussion), Echo. "Wicked Session One" is the first in a series of upcoming nights in 1999 featuring acoustic and electronic musicians and DJS exploring the connection betwen dub, drum& bass, hip hop and ambient music. $6. Elbo Room, 647 Valencia, SF. Flikker - house w/DJs Rotating residents, Jus' Joel, dj d-paul, lee., Plus special guests.. 9pm-2am, 21+, $3. free before 10pm. Sacrifice, 800 South Van Ness @ 19th, SF. Sunday Substance - Andre Lucero, Gouracandra. 3rd Sunday of every month Above Denny's in Japantown. 21+. 1705 Buchanan Street @ Post, SF. 415.339.8305 [6.20 - special guest Mark Farina] Bionic - bringing dubby dancefloor delerium and spaced out house every sunday w/DJs Solar, Mark E Quark, IZ. 10pm-2am, $3. the Top, 424 Haight, SF. Spundae - House, Techno w/DJs Carlos, David Michael, weekly guests. free b4 10:30p For 02.14.99 - 6 Year Anniversary Party! 5 elements giving you 11 decor by Ashley. 10pm-5:30am, 21+, $5. 1015 Folsom St, SF. http://www.spundae.net 415.974.9389 [5.23 - DJ Dan] [5.30 - Memorial Day Weekend Special Line up coming. Stay tuned.] Leopard Lounge - Acid Jazz, Funk, Soul, Pop & Live Bands. w/DJs Jerry Ross, guests. The Hi-Fi, 2125 Lombard @ Fillmore, SF. 415.771.2583 Pleasuredome - Funk, House w/DJs Neil Lewis, guests. 21+, $8. 177 Townsend, SF. 415.985.5256 Dub Mission - SF's only dub night. The best in dubs and roots every Sunday. w/DJs I, Maneesh the Twister, Vinnie, Sep (kusf/kpfa), J.Boogie ("Beatsauce"), Ludichris, other suprises. Contact 647 Valencia @ 17th, mission. http://www.geocities.com/~dub_mission/ 415.552.7788 [5.23 - DJs SEP & VINNIE] [5.30 - J BOOGIE's DUBTRONIC SCIENCE, DJ SEP, STEPHEN KENT] [6.6 - EP and MANEESH the TWISTER, PISTOL PETE, DR. WARE] The Cafe - house w/DJs Mathew Baker, Jay-R. 8pm-2am, 21+, Free. the Cafe, 2367 Market Street, SF . 415.861.3846 Liquid Sundays - Beetroot, quest djs. 21+. Liquid, 2925-16th St @ S.Van Ness, SF. Cosmic Hands - drum n bass, techno, house w/DJs chris haycock, Dereck Scott, de nada, rebekah, gagarin, chris jackson, nada, leath, tomas, jaz, hak, toby, paul leath. . This is a free party which happens on the first sunday of every month. Techno, tech-house and breaks on 9pm-2am, Free. Waves, 65 Post St, SJ. Monday Groove Lounge - spinning Raregrooves / Downtempo / Hiphop w/DJs JP, Spacekitty. 9pm-2am, . 3089 16th @ Valencia, SF. [6.7 - JP's Birthday] [6.14 - Dj Blsthus, D2] [6.21 -] Beat Hive - DJs Christopher Robin (Oakland), Evan (SF), special quests. This party takes place on the 2nd and 4th mondays of the month. 7pm-2am, $5. Free b4 10pm.. Kate O'Briens, 579 Howard, SF. [5.24 - Hector Morales (Primal Records)] [6.7 - Neil (House Blends Crew), Ron Isen (Bulletproof Boat Party)] Movin on Up - It's a vibratory thang w/DJs marc anthony, kevin, guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. The Top, 424 Haight, SF. Noc Noc - Drum'n'bass, downtempo and electronica w/DJ Mohsen. every other Monday. 9pm-2am, 21+, Free. 557 Haight St, SF. 415.861.5811 Density - Urban Beats saturated with Drum & Bass. w/DJs Residents:, DJ Al Simmons, Noel, JBoogie, special guests. Hosted by MC Angel. Cross Street: Hayes 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. The Justice League, 628 Divisadero, SF. 415.289.2038 Monday Mood Lounge - Happy Hour Downtempo to Drum and Bass w/DJs Triadessa, guests. 4pm-, 21+, Free. 406 Clement St, SF. HouseBlends - a special brew of house w/DJs a special brew of house w/DJs, Mes, Bloom, Tune, Neil, Abdul, Conrad, Friends (Weekly Rotation). Free before 10pm. Spend Happy Hour with HouseBlends (7pm-10pm). 10pm-2am, 21+, Free. the Top, 424 Haight, SF. http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Lounge/6072/ 925.988.7447 415.273.1308 Tuesday PHUNCKTION - Drum & Bass in motion w/DJs Residents: , Noel, JUJU, plus special guest TBA. Every tues. begining April 5th, 1999 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. THE TOP, 424 Haight St, SF. http://www.sfdb.com/ 415.789.8000 x1147 Pleasure - Residents, B.B. Hayes, Mark Silva, Matt Mau, plus weekly guest djs.. Real house music for real house heads...come into San Jose and get that SF feel. 9:30pm-2am, 21+. Free before 10:30...5 bills after.. Agenda Lounge, 399 South First Street, San Jose. Pure - house w/DJs Brian Brandon, guests. 9pm-, 18+. The Rage, 1890 Arden Way, Sacramento. 916.929.0232 Static - Techno, Drum & Bass, Downtempo, Electro, Experimental.... w/DJs Dj Sifu (Resident), Joe Rice (Justice League Sound System), Tomas (Umoja), J-Bird (Sunset/Pacific), Bre Ad, Sutekh, Re Ach, Quantum 23, Tomas, Sifu, J-Bird, Safety, Scissors, Sean Murray, guests. Static offers musical alternatives to listeners and dancers who are tired of pre-pubescent ravers, New Age missionaries and club culture, in general. Admission is $5 (21 and over, please). Come check out the two, newly fattened sound systems. 10pm-2am, $5. The Cat's Club, 1190 Folsom St, SF. http://www.belief-systems.com/static 510-496.3444 Spark - drum'n'bass, downtempo, jazzstep w/DJs Seven, Sol, Jason Greer , guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, $4. Backflip, 601 Eddy St @ Larkin, SF. 415.771.3547 [5.25 - Sifu] [6.1 - Rue and Presha (Compound Records)] [6.8 - Marty (xlr8r) and Monkey (Tricorder)] [6.15 - PBS Crew + Laron (Frisky Records)] Spin Cycle - music of all types w/DJ guests weekly. 7:30p-midnight, All ages. CSUMB's Black Box Cabaret. http://www.cloudfactory.org/upcoming.html 831.457.7726 Tuesday nights at the Agenda - guest djs. upstairs at the agenda 21+. $5.00 after 10:30. 399 south first street, San Jose. Jive Samba - Josh Jones, Latin Jazz All Stars (Live), Chris (Electronic flavor with drum and bass), jazzy jungle. Come inside, cuddle up to a fire, a strong drink and a hapless passerby. Drink and dancing until two a.m. 21+, $5. Storyville, 1751 Fulton, SF. Core - drum & bass and beyond... w/DJs jefsta, cera, weekly guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, $2. Liquid, 2925 16th Street @ S. Van Ness, SF. http://hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~mkello01/core.html 415.790.4974 Wednesday SYNESTHESIA - Resident Djs, DUTCH, JEFF TAISCH. . - All welcome - 300 capacity - @ 19th St. One block from the 19th/Broadway BART station. 9pm-2am, All ages. $8/door-$5 w/can of food for The Floral Depot Project.. 1921 Telegraph Av., Oakland. 510.595.5555 415.339.8082 BassTrap - house, elctro, jungle, breaks - anya, cloud, swoops, thebasstrapallstars. Third wednesday of every month. Get the digs at BassTrap. 9pm-2am, 21+. http://www.3d-dynamic.com/basstrap/basstrap.html 707.524.9804 PURIFIDE - on the first wednesday of every month - tech house tekno progressive trance w/djs: w/DJs J-Bot, Gianni, M.A.C., Cloud, and guests. Purifide 9pm-2am, 21+. Anthony's, 53 Montgomery Drive, Santa Rosa. 707.571.8747 @mosphere - Fabulizz (Progress, Silky, Conscious Session), Seven (Spark, Hi-Rise), Jason Greer (Spark), Andre. Cross Street:Fillmore. We mix up downtempo, drum-n-bass and house. Finally, good music in the Marina! Yuppies and scenesters unite! 21+, $3. Hi-Fi Lounge, 2125 Lombard. Sol (Spark) DEEP INSIDE - A deep house excursion w/ residents DJs w/DJs Taj, Josh (the Gathering), w/ weekly special guests taking it even deeper.. Every Wednesday except the 1st Wednesday of the month. This party starts 04.14.99. 10pm-4:30am, 21+, $5. Deep Inside The Bassment of 1015 Folsom , 1015 Folsom St, SF. 415.281.0544 Return of the B-Sides - Resident D.J. Solomon, guest, Solomon. Hiphop, Funk, Soul, and Dance Hall every wednesday, spinning on three turntables. Weekly drinks specials. 21+. Shattuck Bar and Grill, 2086 Allston @ shattuck, Berkeley. 510.845.7300 Come Unity - House, Techno, Ambient w/DJs Simon, Jeno, Garth, and Cosmic Jason (every other month). first Wednesday of the month. 10pm-4am, 21+, $8. 1015 Folsom, SF. 415.241.8815 Audio Alchemy - jazz, hip hop, drum & bass, latin, futuristic beats w/DJs Groove Merchant DJs, Tom Thump, Cool Chris. 7pm-, 21+. Liquid, 2925 16th St @ So.Van Ness, SF. qoöl - a pan-techno lounge w/DJs Spesh, Gil, Hyper D, top notch guests. Visuals by Hyperdelic.qoöl is now in it's 3rd year of celebrating dj culture at happy hour. each wednesday we gather to hear no less than 4 djs pump nothing but the qoöl est techno. in 1999, we hope to bring you more of the same awesome vibe, more superskilled spinners, more visual artistry, and more great tasting beer! lastly, qoöl will remain free in 1999 - w/ qoöl card 5pm-9pm, Free. 111 Minna St, SF. http://www.looq.com/qool Audible Colors - house, jungle, techno w/DJ guests weekly. 21+, $3. the Top, 424 Haight St, SF. 415.522.2343 Seance - Its a spiritual thang w/DJs local guests weekly, DJs Martel, Nabiel, Franky. Tarot readers, belly dancers, henna tattoo artists and authentic egyptian tapestries. Séance is an ethereal alternative with belly dancers, Tarot Card Readers and Henna tattoo artists. For dinner reservations call 771-3547. 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. Backflip, 601 Eddy @ Polk, SF. http://sfstation.com/clubs/seance.htm 415.281.0823 Faith - house w/DJs jeff blax, guests. 9pm-2am, 21+, $3. Agenda Cellar, 17 San Salvador St, San Jose. Wednesdays at Club Ecco - house, techno, trance w/DJs Danny (Resident), Ellen Ferrato, David Harness, Blackstone, Pete Avila. Wednesday is a fantastic gay club night at Club Ecco. All the great house hits hits in the San Pedro Room. Door s open for Happy Hour @ 5pm. 5pm-, 21+, $5. No cover before 9:30. Club Ecco, 87 North San Pedro, San Jose. 408.947.1667 Dubphonik - Mr. Brown. Come inside, cuddle up to a fire, a strong drink and a hapless passerby. Drink and dancing until two a.m. $5. Storyville, 1751 Fulton, SF. Thursday 4-Play - Tek-House Thursday Nights w/DJs Residents:, Jasonian (Funky Tekno Tribe), Mikkel (Plush), Fabulizz (Progress). 9pm-2am , 21+, $5. Hi - Fi Lounge. 415.527.6677 GUANG! - Jimmy Chu, Cobie, Guest DJ appearances.. Dress code strictly enforced: No jeans, no tennis shoes, no sports attire. 21+. $8 at the door, $6 w/flyer or this email, Ladies in free b4 11:00. Club ERA, 525 Howard St., SF. 510.917.3030 the insight series - insight shows are about live electronic music that pushes the boundaries of the way we think about music w/DJs sean copper, eric hill. (*) EVERY THIRD THURSDAY of the month performances will start sometime shortly after 10pm. 9pm-, 21+. 111 minna st, SF. http://www.syncopated.net/emanate the Vanity party - BB Hayes (Resident) , guest djs:, Pete Avila, David Harness, ST John, Scott DC. Just off of highway 280. On the corner of Lawrence and Homestead. 9pm-2am, 21+. The BackBeat, 777 Lawrence Expressway, Santa Clara. 408.241.0177 Pitch - The underside of SF's techno/house music scene. Agressive, live musicians and dj's. w/DJs Crunch, YT, Dutch , Residents, Corey Black, Y.T., w/ special guests:, TUESday nites in March:, Freaky Chakra, Margorie & Stuart, DRC, big Nate, THURsday nites in April:, Cristina, Dutch, Ryme, Single Cell Orch., djCrunch.. ....Duck and weave.... Donation. CLUB SACRIFICE, 19th Street & South Van Ness, SF. Velvet Shop - house, jungle, hip hop, downtempo w/DJs M3, Mark Johns, guests. 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. Waves, SJ. 408.235.1556 408.235.1556 Kit Kat - house. 10pm-4am, 21+, $10. the End Up, 6th & Harrison, SF. The Cafe - house w/DJ Mathew Baker. 8pm-2am, 21+, Free. the Cafe, 2367 Market Street, SF. 415.861.3846 Passenger - excursions to global beats and rhythms 10p-2a, 21+, Free. the Skylark Lounge, 3089 16th St. @ Valencia, SF. Club Faith - Hip-Hop, House, Progressive. w/DJs Blackstone (Resident), Jay-R, Ruben Mancias (Resident), Weekly Guests. Boys/Girls, mostly bi/gay. If you have a closed mind this club will leave you behind! 9:30pm-3am, 18+, $10. Free with Flyer.. City Nights, 715 Harrison St., SF. [5.27 - John Howard] [6.3 - DRC] [6.10 - Blackstone (a special 5 hour set)] Hi-Rise - The weekly thursday night house thing. w/DJs Seven (Resident), Sol (Resident), Peterbilt (Resident), Jin (Resident), Weekly Guests. Overloading your senses with deep underground house vibes at the coolest restaurant/bar in S.F. Free before 10pm. Dinners served until 10pm. Resurrecting the deep funk we call House. 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. Backflip, 601 Eddy, SF. 415.789.7377 [5.27 - Taj (Deep Inside) & Sol] [6.3 - Mark E. Quark (Primal Records), Hector Moralez (Primal Records), Marty (xlr8r)] [6.10 - closed for private party] [6.24 - Sunburn/Hardkiss Record Release Party for "Handy Man Maurice"] [6.24 - Goura (Urban Development) & Jamie Means] Atmospheric Drum & Bass - Peregrine. 8pm-11pm, . Brain Wash Cafe, 1122 Folsom St, SF. Manifesto - soul, hip hop, dub, jungle & electro with w/DJs monkey, marlo, & weekly guests.. Come on out and eat a late dinner and stick around with us for drinks and more. 9:30pm-to close, Free. ChaChaCha's located at The Original McCarthy's Bar, 2327 Mission @19th Street, SOMA. Eklektic - jungle, drum n bass w/DJ Sage (jungle/drum 'n' bass Resident). Live: Weekly guests from the Bay area + the World. 9pm-2am, 21+, $12. 78 Minna, SF. 415.332.5800 x787 Double Trouble - Romanowski , Special Guests. Live funk and hip hop. Abstract Jazz. Come inside, cuddle up to a fire, a strong drink and a hapless passerby. Drink and dancing until two a.m. $5. Storyville, 1751 Fulton St, SF. Silky...smoothe and sublime - Come listen to how the ladys lay down the funky beats w/DJs Tracy (Sister), FabuLizz (Progress), Girl Friday (Uniting Souls). Silky, the all female cast of the SF underground, will be held at Il Pirata on the third Thursday of every month. (between Potrero and Utah) Buses to party: 33 Stanyan 9 San Bruno. Email Art and decorations by: Bahar meets Angela. 9pm-2am, $3. Il Pirata, 2007 16th St, SF. 415.626.2626 [6.17 - Charlotte the Baroness (Sunburn Records)] The Circus - Hip-hop, Disco, Club Classics, House w/DJs Paolo Vincenti (Resident), Romero X Pinoza (Resident), Special Guests Weekly. Thursday night -this thursday, January 28th, is THE grand opening. 9:30pm-, 18+. $5 with a college ID. La Vals, 2516 Durant Ave, Berkeley. 510.595.5597 FriscoGlide - Deep House spun by: w/DJs Laron, John Pickett, Dani, Robbie Hardkiss. Steven Tune and the original dues rock "we got the beats" beats for all kinds for the premillinnial mind. $3. The Top, 424 Haight St, SF. Definition - Quality house music by the world's leading djs - house, techno w/DJs Markus (Resident / Kickdrum), JP (Resident / Kickdrum), Kamahele (Undertow Records). Inside Sacramento's Newest Club 'The Garage'. $5. Club 1831, 1831 19th Street, Sacramento. 916.484.4614 Techno Thursdays - house, techno w/DJs Dj Matt in the Hatt, Weekly Guests. Spinning house and techno every Thursday @ the Q Cafe. 9pm-. Q Cafe, 529 Alma, Palo Alto. 650.322.3311 _________________________________________________________________ Info Lines * Harmony Party Line - 408-486-9591 * Be-At Info Line - 415-626-4087. Usually has 5-10 listings, updated daily. * the Buzz-line, a global party network - 650.569.3300 * Clubline - 415.339.8686 * Frequency 8 Trance/Techno infoline - 415.541.5019 * The Groove Line - 415.331.1500 ext.4788 * Mixology-Music (north bay) - 707.526.1230 * Housewares Rave Line - 415.281.0125 * V.O.R.G. info - 415.750.3100 _________________________________________________________________ Radio/TV/Net Shows * Sunday-Sunday, 24 hours, 7 days a week, "Technostate" spins live with the dopest underground bay area dj's and work very hard at it! For more info see Technostate Website * Sunday 12noon - until we drop. "House Before The World". Live netcasts every Sunday at boyandhisdog.simplenet.com We broadcast deep house and garage for all who live and love it. :) Our resident Djs are bvdub and vincent kwok from San Francisco, and we feature guests as well. * Sunday, 2pm (((THUMP))) Radio presents Music for the New Millenium on 90.3fm KUSF. Global and local DJs/musicians playing trance, techno, DnB, house, and everything in between! Set-lists and interviews on http://www.thump-radio.com * Sunday Night at 8pm - "Threshold" on Raveworld.net, A audio show featuring world class drum 'n' bass and Jungle Djs. * Sunday night 11pm-2am - "The Dreaming/Innermind Show" w/DJ Miracle & Mr. Monchichi. House, Jungle, Trip-Hop, Ambient, Dub, Break-Beats & guest DJs. KSCU 103.3 (Santa Clara) * Sunday night midnight-1am - "Shortwave" - Electronic music in all of its guises. KALX, 90.7 FM (Berkeley) * Sunday night 10pm-2am - "Jazzadelica" w/ Rocky Rococo. Exploring the groove: from jazz, funk and soul to world beat and all types of underground clubs. KFJC 89.7 (Los Altos Hills) * Monday - Friday 10pm - 2am ''World House Groove'' on www.nwez.net -- a LIVE show dedicated to these sounds of the underground..... Dj Kjel is your host and dj for the show incorporating the music styles of house, acid jazz, trance, trip hop, drum & bass, ambient, and the collages of variations in between....... also, guest djs drop by to tunes and there's a live chatroom to talk w/ the djs themselves ........... Listen & watch World House Groove. * Monday night 9:30pm-midnight - "The Autobahn" w/dj Sutekh. Man and machine made music. KALX 90.7 (Berkeley) * Monday 12 til 4 - "Three*Sixty Radio". Beta Lounge. * Mondays at 11:00 PM PST - "Krom" on Raveworld.net Featuring World Class Djs like Dj Sneak and Doc Martin * Every Other Mon Nite, 10pm-Midnite: _*TeK-IndUced EuPHoriA*_ <<>> 90.3FM KDVS, Davis http://drxeno.cjb.net * Every Tuesday from 1 to 3pm - Trance, techno, breaks and jungle with "the underground with the secret asian man" - available on real audio @ ksfs.sfsu.edu Call ins, requests, and chances to win free gifts and passes to shows are always available, just stay tuned.... need more info? please email me at leopimp44@aol.com * Tuesday night 9pm-11:00pm - "Conscious Groove" - ambientdowntempojunglehousetrancedrumnbasstriphop spun by weekly guest DJs. Hosted by Stephanie aka Miss fat slice. Free Radio Berkeley on the internet - www.freeradio.org * Tuesday night 9pm-mid Pacific - "An Epiphany of Sound" hosted by J.C. The best in beats to satiate your inner child. Electronic dance, noise, spoken word, world music and more. Also available in RealAudio @ Epiphany of Sound Real Audio Also available: Humour List Archive Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of KZSU Radio or Stanford University. KZSU 90.1 (Stanford) * Wednesday 3am-6am - "Nothing Short of Total War" w/Fathertime. Electronic musik of all kinds, interspersed with spoken word poetry and other various readings. KSCU 101.3 (Santa Clara/San Jose) * radio M.U.T.A.N.T. - live experimental techno and dj's playing all styles of underground music. spaz * Wednesday night 9pm-11pm - free form music mix. KPFA 94.1 (Berkeley) * Wednesday night - "the Power of Sound" with Leslie. A 3 hour excursion into the best music from the regions where minds meet between the heavans and the earth. KAZU 90.3 (Monterey Bay Community Radio) * Thursday Mornings 12:30am - 3:00am (Wednesday nights) "The Metallic Blurp" - strictly drum and bass with nman and guests on KZSC, Santa Cruz 88.1FM * Thursday morning 5am-7am - A postmodern Garrison Keillor on crack, DJ Boomerang Fidget spins hilarious tales of backwoods meth labs, urban decay and redneck ravers; all with a social conscience. Also, ambient & techno. Free Radio Berkeley 104.1 (Berkeley) * Thursday Morning 6-9am - "GYNA" Resident Djs buttek and maytag in a live 3 hour mix format bringin the latest UK and stateside rekkids...Guest djs coming include DJ Poop (Sf) next week, also be on the lookout for spots by DJ SIFU, Hak, and Sipon. For requests, rewinds, or anything else, call (408) 554-5728 or email thegyna * "Back To Babylon" - House extravaganza with DJ Sneak and Doc Martin. see Raveworld.net * Thursday morning 10am-2pm - "The Further Adventures of Aardvark" - trip-hop to experimental to ambient to gabba etc, etc. KSJS 90.5 (San Jose). * Thursday 7pm-11pm - The Beta Lounge - Live on the net - electronic music and culture, worldwide. http://www.betalounge.com/ * Friday 12pm-4pm - weekly DJ netcasts. x-radio. * Friday 3pm-6pm - free form music mix. KUSF 90.3 (SF) (also available on Realaudio * Friday 9:30am-noon - Snappy the Aligator plays deep groove music that dips into cool electronic sounds, classic soul, reggae & more. KALX, 90.7 FM (Berkeley) * Fridays 8pm PST - Freak City on Raveworld.net the definitive show on dance cultures. Featuring artists like Paul Van Dyk, Jason Bentley, Air and best of 1998 (Carl Cox, Josh Wink, Moontribe, Spundae, Burning Man * Fridays 9pm-midnight - Andrew from Groove Merchant spins on KUSF 90.3 (SF) * Friday night/Saturday morning - midnight-noon. House/techno mix with Johnny K, Ozone & guests - KCSS 91.9 Central Valley (Turlock) * Friday night/Saturday morning - "Just Desserts" w/Mr.Goodwrench - 10pm-2am Jungle, Detroit, Techno, Acid House, whacked-out Dub, and noise KFJC 89.7 - Los Altos Hills * Friday night 1am-4am - "House Nation" w/"Anthems Mix", with residents and hosts david garcia, st john along with joey mazzola and dj doubt. David garcia and joey mazzola are resident djs at the SKYLOUNGE located at 525 harrison st. along with rotating djs bb hayes and demilo. 1am-4am, WILD 94.9 SF. * Friday night - Moondance. Ambient; 3am-7:30am, KUSF 90.3 SF. * Saturday morning - 12:30am-3am - "Under a Groove" with DJ CK featuring the deepest house grooves, downtempo cuts, and melodic drum and bass tunes. KZSC 88.1 FM, Santa Cruz. * Saturday afternoon - "Bus Stop" - music and talk w/guest DJs from SF and beyond. 2pm-3pm. KUSF 90.3 SF. * Saturday afternoon, 3-6pm - "The Living Dread" on kzsu stanford 90.1, hosted by Matt Duffy, kaydub of the jungle life crew, http://jungle-life.com * Saturday night 11pm - Flux Television, Viacom Channel 53 - Ambient, acid jazz and house music videos & interviews. (415) 281-3377. flux@flux.net * (every other) Saturday night 10p-12:30a - "1984" w/DJ Richtoffen. House, Trance and German rave. 90.1 (Chico) * Saturday night - "amp" 1am. MTV. * Saturday night - "Subsonic". 1am-6am, KITS 105.3 SF. * Saturday night - "House Nation" w/"Anthems Mix", Top 10s from guest DJs and "London Connection w/DJ Doubt". 2am-4am, WILD 94.9 SF. * Ambiance Magazine - 9:30p weds-sun PNC Cable 2 (Modesto & Oakdale), 9p fri & sat, marcus cable ch 9 (ceres & turlock). * Saturday night/Sunday morning - 10pm - 3am, Aaron Axelson, Live 105.3 _________________________________________________________________ For a search interface to the calendar, see the Late Train club section (http://www.latetrain.com/clubs/). _________________________________________________________________ Administrative Notes If anyone has info on any other events, send it to me! I can't possibly hope to get all the info every week. This info gets sent via email every Thursday. 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Karina Powers - karina@hyperreal.org From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 14:54:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10966 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 14:54:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 10957 invoked by uid 233); 22 May 1999 14:54:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 21749 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 18:02:21 -0000 Received: from brightlight.com (HELO divine.brightlight.com) (207.82.63.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 May 1999 18:02:21 -0000 Received: from brightlight.com (madmax.brightlight.com [192.168.1.18]) by divine.brightlight.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA27068; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37459EA2.382B79E3@brightlight.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:57:54 -0700 From: MadMax Reply-To: maxb@sirius.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Good Sounds CC: SFraves peeps , "diox-list@diox." Subject: Re: (NRR) 12 volt lighting References: <037901bea34a$ffb1c3a0$25f586cd@hernancz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Aircraft landing lights ( small 24 volt par lamps ) are used in discos and rock clubs all the time. Four are wired together, in series, so they run at 110vac. In this configuration, you get a bit more voltage at each lamp, so they're bright a hell. The lamp size is, I think, a PAR38. Fixtures for a PAR38 lamp are readily available, or you can make your own with coffee cans. I think 12volt versions are available. I've never seen this type of lamp with anything other than a very narrow beam pattern. You probably can get it in a flood configuration if you look around; there are a number of companies that sell only lamps on the web. These lamps are also major power hogs! You'd probably need a bunch of batteries to run them, or a car with a large alternator. If I were you, I'd try to find a used 110vac generator, and add a good muffler ( get an muffler from a junk yard and weld it to the existing geni muffler ). I got a 2.4kwatt generator for $350, on sale at Sams ( a Costco like store on the east coast ) for BM97. A 2400 watt geni would power 16 150watt lamps, enough for a really boffo light show. I'd use those 150watt flood lights ( I think cheap at Costco ) and make fixtures out of coffee cans. Spray paint 'em flat black paint, use stove paint or the kind of paint you use on an automotive engine; the cans will get pretty hot. You can ducktape standard theater gels to the cans for color. Given the cost of aircraft landing lamps and depending on how may lights you want, it may be much cheaper to go the 110vac route. You also have a system you can easily plug in for indoor use. my two cents, -MMax Good Sounds wrote: > Has anyone used 6 or 12 volt lights for lighting? > The wiring and locating suitable lights are not an issue. > I was just hoping someone had expierience that would save me time and > frustration. > We are a street theater troupe that uses a tour bus to move the audience > from site to site. We have tried fire buckets and road flares but we dont > have the time to properly train volunteers in fire control. Being a techie > I find myself driveing home late at night with only brake lights to keep me > company. I must say that some of todays car and truck lights are impressive > little light shows(okay, maybe I work really long late hours) > I believe I can put on a good show with just brake lights. -- ====================================== If you ever reach total enlightenment while you're drinking a beer, I bet it makes beer shoot out your nose. ===================================== From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 14:58:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14649 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 14:58:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 14640 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 14:58:38 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 14:58:38 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (3935) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id yWQKa02587; Sat, 22 May 1999 10:57:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <2434751e.24781ff2@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 10:57:54 EDT Subject: Re: SF Raves GEEK fest 99 To: Jason.LEE@adecco.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey im pretty interested in attending and i wouldnt mind spinning. well someone out there has to bring the Street Fighet Alpha 3 because thats my favorite game at the moment for the playstation. i would bring my playstation over but its having problems playing some of my games. but yes im down for this event. DJMEGATRON:mechasoul in a message dated 5/21/99 6:18:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Jason.LEE@adecco.com writes: << Since most of you all are on this list I'm assuming most of you own PC's, so here's my Idea You provide the PC, all of us provide the fellowship of gaming, good music and good laughs. basicly having a kick ass time....... Here's the Event - Rotating DJ's spin the beats while the rest get beat down in games of QUAKE QUAKE2 QUAKE 3 Arena (Test) MotorCross Madness Need For Speed III SouthPark TRIBES BBQ, chips n dips, drinks, and what ever else your heart desire and whatever other games you can think will work in a multiplayer invironment. What do you need to attend? 1: you have to have a working computer, with all the necessary equipment to play the games 2: a vehicle to get there 3: records to spin if you want to spin, Minidiscs to record your sets if you want 4: Movies and or Super NES games for the not so savy computer people but wish to hang and partake in the vibe Any other idea's would love to hear them... if enough people are interested , I can make it happen but you need to make a shout out!!!!! List of Attendee's begin now, the event will be free, all the electricity you can suck up in a day from your Powerfull PIII's Dependant upon who and how many people are interested will determine the Weekend this event will go down. >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 16:02:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 717 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 16:02:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 709 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 16:02:16 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 16:02:16 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EA8Z2UR2; Sat, 22 May 1999 12:01:49 EDT To: goodvibe@geocities.com Cc: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 08:36:23 -0700 Subject: Re: ...some pick up lines for those in need..... Message-ID: <19990522.090605.-108649.0.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-4,6-26 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I believe that cause he sure is fine. Much props. Peace, Theresa On Fri, 21 May 1999 18:18:20 -0700 Paul*E*Wog writes: >I've slept with Micron! He's as good a lover as he is a DJ. >=Paul*E*Wog > >TeKnODiVa@aol.com wrote: >> >> In a message dated 5/19/99 6:43:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >> terry@saturn5.com writes: >> >> << 4. Hi there, I'm Micron. >> >> >> 8. Hi I'm Micron, what I lack in height I make up in girth. >> >> >> OUCH!! that's all I can say... OUCH!! >> >> hugs n'stuff, >> trice the tekno diva > > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 17:52:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3873 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 17:52:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 3863 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 17:52:45 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 17:52:45 -0000 Received: from BGChris420@aol.com (8069) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 7DLQa15953; Sat, 22 May 1999 13:51:28 -0400 (EDT) From: BGChris420@aol.com Message-ID: <866aa776.247848a0@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 13:51:28 EDT Subject: Re: Why are you a human? NRR To: goodvibe@geocities.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I've been wanting to respond to this post but I've been waiting to see if anybody else has an answer but I guess not. So here it goes... Why am I human? Because.... I am an individual I make my own decisions I know how to love I can learn to love I can find love and it can find me I can learn I can be stupid I can dance I have my own opinions I can be open-minded I can be closed-mined I can do anything I want to do just as long as believe that i can... But most of all I am human because I make mistakes... and I learn from them. This is why i am human. So why are you? "Words mean more than what is set down on paper. It takes the human voice to infuse them with shades of deeper meaning." --- Maya Angelou Peace, Chris "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." --- Dr. Seuss From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 19:53:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16719 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 19:53:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 16711 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 19:53:14 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 19:53:14 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (14440) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vEMMa10786 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 15:52:39 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 15:52:38 EDT Subject: Private party today: To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello Everyone: Groove On Productions is having a little private pre party later this afternoon. This is a free party and everyone 21+ on the list is invited. Its going to be from 5pm-9pm @ the Holy Cow in SF. The 1500 block of Folsom. We are having DJ Jeff Skobel from New Jersey and DJ Soul Kid from FL spin. DJ Jeff Skobel blew up the Sky Lounge last night. These two will brighten your day and bring joy to your souls. The new partio area at the Holy Cow will be open as well. And this is the first time its been opened. And what a beautiful day it is. Please if you come and I dont know you introduce yourself. Enjoy. Peace, M Groove On From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 20:39:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2240 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 20:39:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 2232 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 20:39:37 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 20:39:37 -0000 Received: from Sera13@aol.com (3701) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vVPEa15536 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 16:38:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Sera13@aol.com Message-ID: <89ef3eed.24786fde@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 16:38:54 EDT Subject: Conscious Sessions anyone????? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just wondering if any of you are cruising to this little party? Have a great day, its absolutely gorgeous! >From the red one, Sera From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 20:51:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6661 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 20:51:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 6653 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 20:51:06 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 20:51:06 -0000 Received: from Abbo1234@aol.com (399) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vMECa02575 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 16:50:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Abbo1234@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 16:50:27 EDT Subject: party in the park To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What is this I hear about another free party in Golden Gate Park??? Can somebody feel me in because I think I missed something? PLUR Abby From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 20:52:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7433 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 20:52:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 7419 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 20:52:01 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 20:52:01 -0000 Received: from Abbo1234@aol.com (399) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vADAa02589 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 16:50:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Abbo1234@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 16:50:37 EDT Subject: party in the park To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What is this I hear about another free party in Golden Gate Park??? Can somebody feel me in because I think I missed something? PLUR Abby From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 21:06:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10526 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 21:06:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 10516 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 21:06:42 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 21:06:42 -0000 Received: from KaNdeEKlD@aol.com (539) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vMGHa02602 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 17:06:01 -0400 (EDT) From: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com Message-ID: <8fb1ccf2.24787638@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 17:06:00 EDT Subject: Children of The Sun To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This party had awesome potential! I was psyched to hear Adam (Anakin) spin again, his set was going awesome then the reality struck...the cops were at the door and the party was ending... I was hella sad! I really like small parties at this location, The temperature was very bearable, it wasn't too stuffy... etc...etc...it was a great situation until the cops had to ruin it... N e ways they, the cops, would have never found it if it hadn't been for a group of girls that HAD to be there. Like 6 girls decided to sneak around their parents backs and came to this party, their mom's found out where the shuttling started and followed one of the shuttles to the location and then proceeded to call the cops. This goes way back to young kids being at parties, these girls were between the ages of 14 and 16... when their mom's found them they were rolling hard, none of them could keep their pacifiers out of their mouths! now don't get me wrong I really don't have any problem with young people being at parties, my only thought on the matter is don't come unless you tell your parents, I mean shit, if you are taking drugs there is always the chance that you may possibly overdose...could you imagine the shock to your parents when a hospital calls them at three in the morning to tell them their child (you) is at a hospital in Oakland, overdosing on who knows what.... There is ALWAYS a possibility that this may happen when you are fucking around with Illegal drugs!!!! Seriously kids, tell your parents somehow, maybe don't tell them about the drug part but tell them about Raves.... A relationship with your parents all relies on Communication, and a good relationship with them can be the key to your success in life, My strict parents have known that I raved since I was 15... it was one of the hardest and scariest things I ever allowed them to know about me, I thought that my raving days were over, and they were.... for 2 months...we talked about it extensively and I was allowed to go again, yes there was a limit on how often I could go but it was better that sneaking around their backs, feeling that twinge of nervousness all night, and that sense of guilt the next morning... Besides think about it... Would you like to be one of 6 people or worse the 1 person to have a party shut down because you didn't tell your parents where you were??? I think not! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 21:36:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21354 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 21:36:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 21342 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 21:36:08 -0000 Received: from web702.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.22) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 21:36:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990522213934.8191.rocketmail@web702.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.134.231.185] by web702.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 22 May 1999 14:39:34 PDT Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 14:39:34 -0700 (PDT) From: E T Subject: 2 Metopolis tix 4sale To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey everyone, I got two extra tix for metropolis I gotta sell. I'm giving them away for $20 each, so just page me @280-8375 I'm in the city (SF). peace, Ern Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 21:54:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1578 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 21:54:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 1565 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 21:54:45 -0000 Received: from wya-oe14.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.79) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 21:54:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 38643 invoked by uid 0); 22 May 1999 21:57:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19990522215740.38642.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 152.163.201.53 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 22 May 1999 14:57:39 PDT X-Originating-IP: [152.163.201.53] From: "sHaWn ." To: goodvibe@geocities.com, Ravergrl27@aol.com Cc: lukkypunk@earthlink.net, lesleymo@sco.com, BigM009@aol.com, william@nettwerk.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Cyberfest Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 14:57:39 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk If they didn't care about the music I dont think they would be throwing this party. Now we can pick apart every party because of the line up or lack of different kinds of music but that gets boring . It's also about time the bay area gets an event like this, kinda like Zen in Florida and the FreeBase Society parties in New Orleans. I like what Jeannie called cyberfest, a Concert. > >That is great Jeannie and I understand these are your friends, but maybe >if there really was a love for the music & the diversity they would >actually have that. > >It all looks like house, trance, techno, jungle, breaks and hip hop to >me. There are other genres not represented. There is nothing new that i >see here. It has all been done before in this scene. >Where is the Hardcore? Where is the Goa? They have not included >everything. I am sure there right now some styles that many have not >even heard of. Too many of us have heard all this before. It is old. >Where is the spark? I do not feel it. There is no new flavor. This will >impress only those without experience. > >If they really cared about music they would not just showcase the most >popular genres, but ALL music that you can dance to. > >Since these are YOUR friends, maybe you are looking at this through rose >colored glasses. > >Feel Good Entertainment has changed in the past two years. >Some changes were postitive and some where negative. I feel that the >changes were for the good. I think you would agree that you and Vlad >have done a great deal of growing these past years... as have I. I >believe your respectable business to be a a much better provider for >diversity in music than any COOL WORLD concert. > >You're friend's vision is narrow compared to what you claim of their >love for diversity. As a friend, you should point this out to them. >I would not let my friends leave the house ready to party looking like >shit. Friends are honest and always tell the truth. FGE could teach COOL >WORLD thing or two about passion. You want to do the right thing, don't >you? > >Your friend =Paul*E*Wog > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 22:01:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3784 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 22:01:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 3772 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 22:00:59 -0000 Received: from web902.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.77) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 22:00:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19990522215838.23182.rocketmail@web902.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.133.105.176] by web902.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 22 May 1999 14:58:38 PDT Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 14:58:38 -0700 (PDT) From: mark kadubec Subject: Re: Children of The Sun To: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just thought I would add, the party was pretty ok, but the real fun started after the cops busted it =:))) Big group of us walked the whole way back to 4th and just talked and made the best of it, when we got back to the parking lot a bunch of people started blasting car stereo's and for at least an hour over a 100 of us danced in the parking lot, met a bunch of people and just had a dam good time =:) At least i did. ...... symmetry --- KaNdeEKlD@aol.com wrote: > This party had awesome potential! I was psyched to > hear Adam (Anakin) spin > again, his set was going awesome then the reality > struck...the cops were at > the door and the party was ending... I was hella > sad! I really like small > parties at this location, The temperature was very > bearable, it wasn't too > stuffy... etc...etc...it was a great situation until > the cops had to ruin > it... N e ways they, the cops, would have never > found it if it hadn't been > for a group of girls that HAD to be there. Like 6 > girls decided to sneak > around their parents backs and came to this party, > their mom's found out > where the shuttling started and followed one of the > shuttles to the location > and then proceeded to call the cops. This goes way > back to young kids being > at parties, these girls were between the ages of 14 > and 16... when their > mom's found them they were rolling hard, none of > them could keep their > pacifiers out of their mouths! now don't get me > wrong I really don't have any > problem with young people being at parties, my only > thought on the matter is > don't come unless you tell your parents, I mean > shit, if you are taking drugs > there is always the chance that you may possibly > overdose...could you imagine > the shock to your parents when a hospital calls them > at three in the morning > to tell them their child (you) is at a hospital in > Oakland, overdosing on who > knows what.... There is ALWAYS a possibility that > this may happen when you > are fucking around with Illegal drugs!!!! Seriously > kids, tell your parents > somehow, maybe don't tell them about the drug part > but tell them about > Raves.... A relationship with your parents all > relies on Communication, and a > good relationship with them can be the key to your > success in life, My strict > parents have known that I raved since I was 15... it > was one of the hardest > and scariest things I ever allowed them to know > about me, I thought that my > raving days were over, and they were.... for 2 > months...we talked about it > extensively and I was allowed to go again, yes there > was a limit on how often > I could go but it was better that sneaking around > their backs, feeling that > twinge of nervousness all night, and that sense of > guilt the next morning... > Besides think about it... Would you like to be one > of 6 people or worse the 1 > person to have a party shut down because you didn't > tell your parents where > you were??? I think not! > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 22:01:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4518 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 22:01:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 4510 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 22:01:40 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 22:01:40 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (14391) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJROa01450 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 18:00:57 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <53ef5c41.24788319@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 18:00:57 EDT Subject: children of the sun To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well i had soooo much fun at this party. ok i started out chillin in my car in the parking lot for 2 hours, cuz it was my job to make sure that all da kiddies stayed in their cars and kept undercover, which was actually pretty fun. met alot of cool people (i was wearing a little blue shirt with teddy bears on it, jeans, blue visor, i am REALLY short...did i meet any of you??). i actually saw the kids who's parents broke up the party, get dropped off and i was a lil nervous cuz the dad looked a lil unsure about letting the kids go sit in a parking lot in oakland. but anyways, i took a shuttle around 11:30 to the party and met up with all my friends, an danced my lil boo-tay off. i was having fun taking care of all the kids who were way too e*tarted, me being sober n all, dancing, meeting new people and chillin with the old,then the music shuts off, and everything is hushed. and then everyone's fear came true- the party got busted. even though the party was still going strong, i felt satisfied and said my good-byes. but actually there was no need for it cuz after walking through oakland w/ a mob of ravers, whistling, and making up songs( " dancing in the streets, moving to the beat, shuffling ur feet, vegetarians dont eat meat!"), we turned the corner to find everyone bumpin their music from their cars and we started a lil after-party in the parking lot!! geez, i think i actually had more fun in the parking lot then at the actual party location!! this girl fran turned to me at one point and said "the cops didnt break us up, it only made us stronger!!" and then this other girl turned and said " only ravers could pull this off!!" it was so dope!!! so after a while, everyone headed off to ocean beach and we and my crew went back home and watched the sunrise at this waterfall...well actually, i was sleeping, but everyone else did. : ) so i really hope matt n all them dont get in too much trouble...they were only trying to bring some great people together to listen to music and dance..it's a shame that that's a crime...well, i'm gonna go take a nap. hopefully i'll see some of you tonight at the T&J two year. love, alida (da sweet pea) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 22:16:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11839 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 22:16:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 11831 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 22:16:08 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 22:16:08 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com (7982) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vAQQa02681; Sat, 22 May 1999 18:15:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: <9a73daef.24788681@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 18:15:29 EDT Subject: Re: party in the park To: Abbo1234@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think it's an F8 thing soon. ??? In a message dated 5/22/99 1:51:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Abbo1234@aol.com writes: << What is this I hear about another free party in Golden Gate Park??? Can somebody feel me in because I think I missed something? >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 22:17:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13195 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 22:17:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 13076 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 22:17:19 -0000 Received: from sparky.inasec.ca (@207.176.144.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 22:17:19 -0000 Received: from a3a46569 (dnai-216-15-121-106.dialup.dnai.com [216.15.121.106]) by sparky.inasec.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA13556 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 18:05:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by a3a46569 with Microsoft Mail id <01BEA466.DA669D10@a3a46569>; Sat, 22 May 1999 15:22:07 -0700 Message-ID: <01BEA466.DA669D10@a3a46569> From: Martin Soukup To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Subject: RE: NRR-from candy Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 15:22:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm not posting my rating heehee- i'm 56% "pure"... >From: Candida29@aol.com >To: gambit_92@hotmail.com, m1k3e2@pacbell.net, MariGalvez@aol.com, >Markis1012@aol.com, donnamarie48@hotmail.com, madonnar@mindspring.com, >Hcjschu@aol.com, Naomi0211@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: NRR-from candy >Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 16:17:06 EDT > >i thought this was a cute little thing that you would all get a kick out >of!! >i came out 52% pure. see told you all i'm an angel!! > >click here ---->TheSpark.com >Purity >Test > > >love & lollipops, >candy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 22:25:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17289 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 22:25:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 17120 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 22:25:31 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 22:25:31 -0000 Received: from Kalika1196@aol.com (8045) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vKEHa01068 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 18:24:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Kalika1196@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 18:23:52 EDT Subject: best broken up party ever, children of the sun... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok, personaly, i had such a great time after the party was borken up! my frends and i had to walk back to the parking lot but we made the best of it. everything that night seemed so perfect! it was my first experience with shrooms, and my friend raquel made it the best trip ever... afetr the party was broken up. we walked for what seemed to be a long time, but we were having so much fun! my friends and i had the biggest bonding moment possible, it was the most love that i have ever seen. it was great! we kept walking, then 3 of our other friends found us which made it even better. one of the best parts of the night was turning around this corner and finding the parking lot! it was the greatest sight! this community of people, who had just been broken up by the cops had joined together and made the very best of a bad situation! it was the greatest sight! my friends and i ran over to it and made our night even better dancing with everyone in a parking lot! i met so many great poeple there, i really had more fun in the parking lot and outside the rave then in. it just goes to show how great our raving community is! it truly is beautiful. love, hugs, and vapor rub, trisha p.s. fran, if your part of the list thanks for chillin with me at the bathroom.... i really needed soemone to talk to! =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 22 23:07:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 432 invoked by uid 6000); 22 May 1999 23:07:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 421 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 23:07:47 -0000 Received: from sparky.inasec.ca (@207.176.144.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 May 1999 23:07:46 -0000 Received: from a3a46569 (dnai-216-15-121-125.dialup.dnai.com [216.15.121.125]) by sparky.inasec.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id TAA15031; Sat, 22 May 1999 19:08:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by a3a46569 with Microsoft Mail id <01BEA46F.A4E48F40@a3a46569>; Sat, 22 May 1999 16:25:02 -0700 Message-ID: <01BEA46F.A4E48F40@a3a46569> From: Martin Soukup To: "'Kandehata@aol.com'" , "Kitana3737@aol.com" , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Subject: RE: a question Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 16:25:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk -----Original Message----- From: Kandehata@aol.com [SMTP:Kandehata@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 1999 6:59 PM To: Kitana3737@aol.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: a question A GOOD SUGGESTION WOULD BE: DJ DAN BEATS FOR FREAKS.....ANYONE ELSE AGREE???? A From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 23 01:13:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28102 invoked by uid 6000); 23 May 1999 01:13:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 28078 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 01:13:18 -0000 Received: from web115.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.88) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 May 1999 01:13:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990523011601.29559.rocketmail@web115.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.105.189.53] by web115.yahoomail.com; Sat, 22 May 1999 18:16:01 PDT Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 18:16:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Violette Subject: A simple Question about the list!! To: SF Raves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Has the SFraves list every put together its own party? thanks ~!>Chris Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 791 invoked by uid 6000); 23 May 1999 01:19:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 783 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 01:19:28 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 May 1999 01:19:28 -0000 Received: from Sera13@aol.com (14448) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vVBMa02574 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 21:18:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Sera13@aol.com Message-ID: <5e188d1a.2478b17b@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 21:18:51 EDT Subject: Paging the Bodhisattva.that's you Bodhi!!!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Bodhi, I lost your address and like a dumb ass i did not save your messages! Please get back to me when you get this! >From the red one, Sera From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 23 01:31:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2954 invoked by uid 6000); 23 May 1999 01:31:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 2946 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 01:31:28 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 May 1999 01:31:28 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (317) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rDSNa06834; Sat, 22 May 1999 21:30:10 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 21:30:09 EDT Subject: Re: A simple Question about the list!! To: neuera16@yahoo.com CC: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/22/99 6:13:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, neuera16@yahoo.com writes: << Has the SFraves list every put together its own party? >> YES!! Epiphany is the official SFR party, however lots of other little parties have stemmed from this list.... Smaller events like house parties and then Sanctuary and stuff.. hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 23 02:04:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10015 invoked by uid 6000); 23 May 1999 02:04:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 9991 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 02:04:11 -0000 Received: from web219.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.119) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 May 1999 02:04:11 -0000 Message-ID: <19990523020647.4562.rocketmail@web219.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.72.0.55] by web219.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 22 May 1999 19:06:47 PDT Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 19:06:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Jean-Baptiste Laplace Subject: New in town ! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello Everybody ! I'm new in town. I moved from Montreal (East Canada) and would like to know more about the scene here in SF ! In Montreal, in the last 7 years the "vibe" has changed a lot. It use to be Deep House music, everybody on good drugs (E), peace love and happiness. Now it's more hard house, industrial techno, everybody is on Speed and the "vibe" suffers from it. It has also become "mass production". All main DJs from around the World spins in Montreal, and the prices for a party are very expensive. It is very very hard to find a small house party with a good vibe. So, how is it in SF? I would like to know what promoters are good and care about their parties (not to pack/ respect etc…), what promoters suck real bad? What's the normal price for E? Is there a good party coming up with DEEP TRANCE music? What would one recommend for tonight (05/22/99)? Thanks for any info. JB Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 23 02:17:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12574 invoked by uid 6000); 23 May 1999 02:17:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 12557 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 02:17:52 -0000 Received: from web206.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.106) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 May 1999 02:17:52 -0000 Message-ID: <19990523021935.22168.rocketmail@web206.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.62.135.229] by web206.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 22 May 1999 19:19:35 PDT Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 19:19:35 -0700 (PDT) From: C H E P Reply-To: chep_plur@yahoo.com Subject: a compilation of @!Where Everyone lives! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I thought this would be a nice little FYI for everyone. If I missed anyone or if anyone would like to be added/deleted to the list send me an email to chep_plur@yahoo.com. I also have this list in an excel spreadsheet. If you would like one, just notify me and I will be happy to send you one. Hopefully with this project we can all find some way to get connected. That is what it's all about. User Name Email Address Name Location C H E P chep_plur@yahoo.com Chep San Leandro SaMiENiTTy@aol.com SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Sami Nevada/Livermore Peanut5367@aol.com Peanut5367@aol.com Nicole Concord Rum TumTugger Adam Sharpe Monterey Megatron45@aol.com Megatron45@aol.com Richmond LuSh SnOOpiE Lia SF JUNGurlE@aol.com JUNGurlE@aol.com Amber Sacremento Rani Skye Lefevre San Jose/Cupertino Laalkuchaa@aol.com Laalkuchaa@aol.com Fresno Macias20@aol.com Macias20@aol.com Valerie San Jose/Santa Clara TriXXXXe4@aol.com TriXXXXe4@aol.com Walnut Creek Amber Leahey Amber Menlo Park FReShKiD7@aol.com FReShKiD7@aol.com San Jose SpinDazE@aol.com SpinDazE@aol.com SF MoonChyld1@aol.com MoonChyld1@aol.com Tina Castro Valley BigM009@aol.com BigM009@aol.com Salinas/Sacremento Fine19boy@aol.com Fine19boy@aol.com San Mateo omz Luca Fifth Floor Mark Hellar SF David Ramirez David Redwood City Spiral of Evolution Castro Valley Kalika1196@aol.com Kalika1196@aol.com Trisha Novato Aryck46@aol.com Aryck46@aol.com Aryck San Lorenzo John Rodriguez John Novato CKchick637@aol.com CKchick637@aol.com SF Andrew Nourse Andy Santa Cruz Subgucci@aol.com Subgucci@aol.com Alice Campbell HiSKiD76@aol.com HiSKiD76@aol.com Cel Newark Gammbino@aol.com Gammbino@aol.com Kent Fairfield Holly G. Holly North Bay Charlie Charlie Morgan Hill danny b Berkeley Danny Berkeley Valverde, Andrew Valverde, Andy SF Candida29@aol.com Candida29@aol.com Redwood City Silvia Schumacher Silvia Davis dadope@juno.com dadope@juno.com San Jose/Santa Clara What is a dic-so bunny Sherri Sacremento unclenoah Santa Ana Andria Maderious Andria Davis Kenneth Zanotto Ken Davis ShockVibe@aol.com ShockVibe@aol.com Sean Rohnert Park WhrDaMud@aol.com WhrDaMud@aol.com Byron Brentwood Abbo1234@aol.com Abbo1234@aol.com Abby Elk Grove/Sacremento Jay inadaze@pacbell.net Jay Fairfield Aryck46@aol.com Aryck46@aol.com Aryck San Lorenzo Jennifer and Daniel whtrabt@ix.netcom.com Jennifer Carmel Derderf3@aol.com Derderf3@aol.com Smyl-E San Jose DjShUbErT@aol.com DjShUbErT@aol.com DJ Shubert San Jose lynz shnigglebob@yahoo.com Lynz SF BiGiDyBean@aol.com BiGiDyBean@aol.com Kasey aka Bean Rohnert Park Glad to help and serve the Rave community Chep === In case I don't see you...... good afternoon.... good evening.... good night.... chep_plur@yahoo.com Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 23 03:38:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6698 invoked by uid 6000); 23 May 1999 03:38:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 6690 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 03:38:48 -0000 Received: from f77.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.183) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 May 1999 03:38:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 97363 invoked by uid 0); 23 May 1999 03:38:21 -0000 Message-ID: <19990523033821.97362.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.152.187.214 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 22 May 1999 20:38:21 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.152.187.214] From: "Macadio G." To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, neuera16@yahoo.com Cc: SFraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: A simple Question about the list!! Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 20:38:21 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I believe the first list parties were FnF parties (Friends and Family) That consists of Ethan Miller, Brian B. Laura etc.. Someone correct me if I am wrong but they were the first do it I think and still do put on FnF parties. See Ya, Macadio >From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com >To: neuera16@yahoo.com >CC: SFraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: A simple Question about the list!! >Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 21:30:09 EDT > >In a message dated 5/22/99 6:13:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >neuera16@yahoo.com writes: > ><< Has the SFraves list every put together its own party? >> > >YES!! Epiphany is the official SFR party, however lots of other little >parties have stemmed from this list.... >Smaller events like house parties and then Sanctuary and stuff.. > > hugs n'stuff, >trice the tekno diva > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 23 04:13:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12004 invoked by uid 6000); 23 May 1999 04:13:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 11996 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 04:13:14 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 May 1999 04:13:14 -0000 Received: from Pogobee@aol.com (320) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPGVa26942 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 00:12:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Pogobee@aol.com Message-ID: <36296ab9.2478da22@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 00:12:18 EDT Subject: sfr list parties CC: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 52 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i think macadio is correct about Friends and Family being the first crew to throw a party for the list. More recently the Epiphany crew has been throwing some awesome parties. i honestly do not believe there is an "official" group that throws parties for the list. anyone is free to throw a party for the list. if you're interested, it may be helpful to contact someone from epiphany. they've thrown at least three successful and vibe charged parties. try getting ahold of Terry the Buglady, or Mook. They might be able to help i'm really excited about the prospect of having another list party. i can only see it bringing us all together. :) -- pogo - the evercrazy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 23 05:44:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2955 invoked by uid 6000); 23 May 1999 05:44:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 2941 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 05:44:28 -0000 Received: from web904.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.79) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 May 1999 05:44:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19990523054300.11283.rocketmail@web904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.133.105.25] by web904.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 22 May 1999 22:43:00 PDT Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 22:43:00 -0700 (PDT) From: mark kadubec Subject: a few thoughts To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Despite the parking lot fun, the bust of children of the Sun got me thinking. This list is a great resource and for that hyprereal is great.. but seriously I don't think it's a secret anymore that most of the raves in the bay area are announced in the upcoming events area. Now granted.. this party was broken up cuz a mom followed the shuttle... but nevertheless this resource has been used for quite some time and if we can go to the site every week call for the map point location and then drive to the events, certainly the police can call the number, send a undercover to the map point and in no time the parties done. Perhaps we need to find a new way to get party information out in a more secure medium. *shrugs* symmetry Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 23 06:13:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10630 invoked by uid 6000); 23 May 1999 06:13:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 10613 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 06:13:24 -0000 Received: from mail.lunatic.org (207.171.204.205) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 May 1999 06:13:24 -0000 Received: from impact.lunatic.org (localhost.lunatic.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lunatic.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA08799 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 23:23:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905230623.XAA08799@mail.lunatic.org> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Blue Rom party Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 23:23:57 -0700 From: Jan Setje-Eilers Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know where it is? Or what voice mail numbers other than the Blue Room 888 number would have directions? If anyone knows I'd much appreciate it if they let me know. The 888 number still has no directions on it, which seems kind of late for an SF party. ... curious. -jan From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 23 06:25:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12820 invoked by uid 6000); 23 May 1999 06:25:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 12811 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 06:25:22 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 May 1999 06:25:22 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA26740; Sat, 22 May 1999 23:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905230625.XAA26740@mail.netwiz.net> To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, neuera16@yahoo.com, SFraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: A simple Question about the list!! In-reply-to: Your message of Sat, 22 May 1999 21:30:09 -0400 Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 23:25:18 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Regarding list-thrown parties, let's not forget the SFR parties that launched it all, the "connection" series, culminating with connection3, which got busted, and got relocated to the berkeley marina where it ran hitch-free all night into the morning (it was drizzling hard enough that the vinyl was getting wet while spinning, but everybody seemed to be having a good time despite the weather). If my vague memories serve me well (they don't), the prior "connection" party was at Bonny Doon beach, probably the first massive "rave" thrown there due to BrianB's excellent renegade-scouting efforts. Riding on SFR's coat-tails, Wicked then started doing their legendary Full Moon Raves at Bonny Doon. I don't know how many of you all were around back then (and if you were, you were probably still in diapers judging from the general maturity&stupidity level of the list nowadays)... but it's pretty amazing to arrive at a supposedly deserted beach at 2AM to find 3000 people assembled going absolutely nutso dancing to a really big, loud massive soundsystem, with great DJing to boot. Now realize, that all this happened well over 5-7 years ago, so my factual details may well be off, though I can still remember exactly how stunning things looked visually with the full moon lighting the water and lasers projecting onto the cliff walls. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 23 06:38:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14931 invoked by uid 6000); 23 May 1999 06:38:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 14923 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 06:38:44 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 May 1999 06:38:44 -0000 Received: from DNGRBOY9@aol.com (7994) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id cNTTa02575; Sun, 23 May 1999 02:37:35 -0400 (EDT) From: DNGRBOY9@aol.com Message-ID: <914588a6.2478fc2e@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 02:37:34 EDT Subject: Re: Blue Rom party To: setje@lunatic.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk same here..I even have my tix, but no directions From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 23 07:05:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20822 invoked by uid 6000); 23 May 1999 07:05:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 20808 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 07:05:40 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 May 1999 07:05:40 -0000 Received: from DNGRBOY9@aol.com (14386) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id cPELa19679; Sun, 23 May 1999 03:05:01 -0400 (EDT) From: DNGRBOY9@aol.com Message-ID: <5cb85ac0.2479029c@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 03:05:00 EDT Subject: Re: Blue Rom party To: DNGRBOY9@aol.com, setje@lunatic.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OK!!!~! THIS IS UPSETTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I PAID FOR TWO TIX TWO THIS THING AND I HAVE NO DIRECTIONS From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 23 07:15:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25224 invoked by uid 6000); 23 May 1999 07:15:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 25210 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 07:15:24 -0000 Received: from tcsi.com (HELO gateway.tcsi.com) (137.134.47.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 May 1999 07:15:24 -0000 Received: from almd-ms.tcsi.com (almd-ms.tcsi.com [137.134.4.21]) by gateway.tcsi.com (8.8.7/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA23153 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 00:15:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waxwing (waxwing.tcsi.com [137.134.4.208]) by almd-ms.tcsi.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA21429 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 00:15:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Victor Wiewiorowski Received: (victorw@localhost) by waxwing (SMI-8.6/8.6.10) id AAA17869 for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Sun, 23 May 1999 00:15:21 -0700 Message-Id: <199905230715.AAA17869@waxwing> Subject: Blue Room? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 00:15:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Aby one know what's up with the blue room? Their inof line is still not updated with the party location. Am i missing someting here? _______________________________________________- Victor W. -___________ "Gort, klaatu nikto barada." -- The Day the Earth Stood Still From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 23 07:27:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27737 invoked by uid 6000); 23 May 1999 07:27:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 27728 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 07:27:06 -0000 Received: from mail.lunatic.org (207.171.204.205) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 May 1999 07:27:06 -0000 Received: (from setje@localhost) by mail.lunatic.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA09800; Sun, 23 May 1999 00:38:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 00:38:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Jan Setje-Eilers Message-Id: <199905230738.AAA09800@mail.lunatic.org> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Blue Rom party In-Reply-To: <5cb85ac0.2479029c@aol.com>) cc: setje@mail.lunatic.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk DNGRBOY9@aol.com wrote: >OK!!!~! THIS IS UPSETTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I PAID FOR TWO TIX TWO THIS THING >AND I HAVE NO DIRECTIONS Ditto here. And I was supposed to meet up with someone there. At any rate from what I gather it is (supposedly) in SF and by the water, by the bay even. So while it's a crap-shoot one could cruise the docs from south SF to the golden gate. -jan From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 23 07:34:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28958 invoked by uid 6000); 23 May 1999 07:34:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 28949 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 07:34:44 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 May 1999 07:34:44 -0000 Received: from DNGRBOY9@aol.com (8015) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id cEAJa26942; Sun, 23 May 1999 03:33:37 -0400 (EDT) From: DNGRBOY9@aol.com Message-ID: <49f4f883.24790951@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 03:33:37 EDT Subject: Re: Blue Rom party To: setje@lunatic.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org CC: setje@mail.lunatic.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yeak,,think IM gonna go do that From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 23 12:15:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22090 invoked by uid 6000); 23 May 1999 12:15:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 22075 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 12:15:00 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 May 1999 12:15:00 -0000 Received: from Taiida@aol.com (8013) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id mPPZa02575; Sun, 23 May 1999 08:13:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Taiida@aol.com Message-ID: <5dc13a9d.24794aee@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 08:13:34 EDT Subject: Re: F8: Metropolis Shmabopolis To: frequency-8@squinky.org CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ya Know, it's kinda funny that this was brought up. I was just browsing the calender and I thought, since M&M, Thomas Trouble were going to be at Origin, Why wasn't anyone talking about this party at all? So, I guess I'll See Ya'll at Metropolis. . . LOVEnHUGZnStuff, *muuuaahhhhh* Tami In a message dated 5/23/99 3:42:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, plur_one@hotmail.com writes: << To my dismay, I found out alot of my friends aren't going to Origin, Memorial Day Weekend. They wanna pass up M&M, Thomas Trouble and a live PA by Kikoman, in exchange for some Homebase drama. I know, I know, sometimes there's a party at Homebase that goes smoothly but lately, that rarely happens. But Metropolis is sooooo commercialized. They had flyers for them at all the stores in the mall! What's that?! I know our scene isn't as underground as it used to be, but promoting at the mall is all bad! The other day these kids that I know from school came up to me and were like, "What's up Mike! Are you going to that RAVE on Saturday?" With a special emphasis on the word 'rave'. and I was like "Which one?" and they were all "What do you mean which one?! Metropolis fool! Are you going or what? We are! It's gonna be tight!" and I was all "Do you know whose gonna play there?" and then they go "The Pharcyde and Hieroglyphics and some other shit! Hella people from our school are gonna go!" and then I goes "Metropolis Shmabopolis--Naw, I'm going to a different party that night." It was wierd talking to them because they never talked me before except to make fun of me because I'm a raver. It's somehow becoming popular to be a raver, and everybody's jumping on the bandwagon. I know I should accept them into the scene the way I was so warmly welcomed, but I'm not sure they'll accept us. Plus I'm sure they have that media-induced view of raves. You know the one-- "It's midnight on a Saturday. Do you know where your kids are? Maybe spending the night at a friends like they said or maybe....... at... a... RAVE!! Gee, Batman! What's a rave you might be asking yourself Raves are dangerous gatherings Evil all night Dance parties where anything goes, Everyone smokes a marijuana and then, then, then they have SEX! And unprotected sex, at that! These rave parties caused the whole in the ozone layer and the 1989 earthquake! basically they are the Devil himself! And it must be stopped! Anyways Mark Maguire hit another homer today! blah blah blah!" That's the media's sensationalized take on raves, squished in between weather and sports, used to get people to buy papers and watch the news. We are the youngest sibling to the media, if something goes wrong and nobody takes the blame, they'll point the finger at us! Then I've heard young peoples take on it. "Dude, I heard that you can grab girls and do whatever you want to 'em! Ha ha! That's because they're on exstasy and it makes you really horny and they listen to crazy music there!" Grrr! It just makes me mad that we get stuck with these stereotypes and negative image, but at the same time it keeps are scene small and tightly knit. I gotta stop talking about this, sorry if I brought anyone down. Anyways I hope all of you guys will show up with big kool-aid smiles on your faces at Origin! I'm tryin' to stay as far away from Homabase as possible, for now! --mike-- p.s. sorry, that letter probably didn't make much sense but, um, it's three in the morning! Hee hee! Nighty Night! --Look whatcha did ya little jerk!-- Home Alone '93 >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 23 16:52:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23781 invoked by uid 6000); 23 May 1999 16:52:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 23760 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 16:52:28 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 May 1999 16:52:28 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com (3930) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id mWFCa10786; Sun, 23 May 1999 12:50:35 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: <5bd484a4.24798bda@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 12:50:34 EDT Subject: Re: F8: Metropolis Shmabopolis To: Taiida@aol.com, frequency-8@squinky.org CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I heard a commercial for Metropolis on Subsonic last night on live 105 hehe matt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 23 17:09:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27311 invoked by uid 6000); 23 May 1999 17:09:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 27303 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 17:09:32 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 May 1999 17:09:32 -0000 Received: from DNGRBOY9@aol.com (8027) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vZIOa02574 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 13:09:01 -0400 (EDT) From: DNGRBOY9@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 13:09:01 EDT Subject: Blue Room GOOF UP!!!!!!!!!!!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Did anyone actually get the directions before they gave up...checked their info line this morning and they had the directions finally.....Oh well, I guess I'll go to Solid Grooves and request a refund From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 23 18:51:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29783 invoked by uid 6000); 23 May 1999 18:51:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 29775 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 18:51:09 -0000 Received: from web222.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.122) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 May 1999 18:51:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990523185140.29588.rocketmail@web222.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [153.37.7.209] by web222.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 23 May 1999 11:51:40 PDT Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 11:51:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Devon McCauley Subject: Paging Ian from Torque To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey, this is Devon. Remember me? I was at the Coronet on Tuesday. Thanks again for the free beats. I guess I was either too drunk or too tired, but I left without a way to get in touch with you, and I really would love that tape I asked you about. So if you post here, I am in luck. If not, I think Marta (she was the fierce girl in leopard who showed up with the fierce girl in the cowboy hat) & I will be going to your party in July. So I'll try to find you there. About that party, by the way, I called your info line and it's been disconnected. You probably know already, but I thought I'd tell you just in case. Thanks again for the party. Devon Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 23 19:34:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11117 invoked by uid 6000); 23 May 1999 19:34:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 11109 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 19:34:42 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 May 1999 19:34:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990523192800.24490.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.86.220.227] by attach1; Sun, 23 May 1999 12:28:00 PDT Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 12:28:00 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: Andy v Micron? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I want to gory details! -Science From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 23 19:46:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15592 invoked by uid 6000); 23 May 1999 19:46:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 15583 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 19:46:02 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 May 1999 19:46:02 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (4418) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3YNJa26412 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 15:45:29 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <9b84724b.2479b4d8@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 15:45:28 EDT Subject: Re: a few thoughts To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think if a promoter chooses to post their party to this list they are accepting responsibility for what might happen. I do think it's really sad, though, that you have to be so cautious about posting information to what is supposed to be a raver list, because of cops and whatnot. There are a lot of promoters that don't BSP their parties or put them on the calendar for that reason. People are going to be stupid and spread bad karma trying to break up parties no matter what.. it's just frustrating that we can only do so much about it. the more I hear about Children of the Sun the more disgusted I am with the kids that got caught and who's moms called the cops. DISGUSTING is exactly the word.... and STUPID. This goes hand in hand with the whole overprotective parents thread.... If your parents are scared about you and you've snuck out and when they catch you you are blown out of your mind on drugs and you STILL act as if they are in the wrong then maybe you aren't mature enough to handle parties anyway. People like COTS that work so hard for our scene shouldn't have to deal with petty drama like this. My first party I went to was the ONLY one my parents didn't know about and they knew about every single one after that... GRR I'm so frustrated I don't even know what to say. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 23 19:56:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17594 invoked by uid 6000); 23 May 1999 19:56:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 17582 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 19:56:29 -0000 Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (206.253.129.186) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 May 1999 19:56:29 -0000 Received: from canuck (dynamic23.pm07.mv.best.com [209.24.241.151]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id PAA06280; Sun, 23 May 1999 15:58:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003201bea556$1a9fbfc0$97f118d1@canuck> From: "ry-N" To: , Subject: Re: best broken up party ever, children of the sun... Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 12:54:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk awww ... it really does my heart good to know that its not the party that counts ... its the drugs keep on shroomin gurl, and just think ... next time you can save the 20 bucks for the party and just trip in the parking lot!!! ryan -----Original Message----- From: Kalika1196@aol.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Saturday, May 22, 1999 3:29 PM Subject: best broken up party ever, children of the sun... >ok, personaly, i had such a great time after the party was borken up! my >frends and i had to walk back to the parking lot but we made the best of it. >everything that night seemed so perfect! it was my first experience with >shrooms, and my friend raquel made it the best trip ever... afetr the party >was broken up. we walked for what seemed to be a long time, but we were >having so much fun! my friends and i had the biggest bonding moment >possible, it was the most love that i have ever seen. it was great! > >we kept walking, then 3 of our other friends found us which made it even >better. one of the best parts of the night was turning around this corner >and finding the parking lot! it was the greatest sight! this community of >people, who had just been broken up by the cops had joined together and made >the very best of a bad situation! it was the greatest sight! my friends and >i ran over to it and made our night even better dancing with everyone in a >parking lot! i met so many great poeple there, i really had more fun in the >parking lot and outside the rave then in. it just goes to show how great >our raving community is! it truly is beautiful. > >love, hugs, and vapor rub, > >trisha > >p.s. fran, if your part of the list thanks for chillin with me at the >bathroom.... i really needed soemone to talk to! =) > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 23 20:23:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27536 invoked by uid 6000); 23 May 1999 20:23:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 27527 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 20:23:47 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 May 1999 20:23:47 -0000 Received: from DNGRBOY9@aol.com (8010) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vVQSa02628 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 16:23:16 -0400 (EDT) From: DNGRBOY9@aol.com Message-ID: <2fab9694.2479bdb4@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 16:23:16 EDT Subject: BLUE ROOM LASTNIGHT To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk DID ANYONE GO TO THIS THING? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 23 20:25:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29259 invoked by uid 6000); 23 May 1999 20:25:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 29250 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 20:25:15 -0000 Received: from www.bass-station.com (HELO bass-station.com) (206.111.131.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 May 1999 20:25:15 -0000 Received: from [216.103.112.82] by bass-station.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.1); Sun, 23 May 1999 13:19:32 -0700 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990523033821.97362.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 13:26:30 +0100 To: SFraves@hyperreal.org From: Ethan Miller Subject: Re: A simple Question about the list!! Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 8:38 PM -0700 5/22/99, Macadio G. wrote: >I believe the first list parties were FnF parties (Friends and Family) That >consists of Ethan Miller, Brian B. Laura etc.. Someone correct me if I am >wrong but they were the first do it I think and still do put on FnF parties. Actually a party called 'Connections' (of which there were 2 -4 actuall parties I think) was the first. Friends and Family, when it was first born almost 6 years ago now, was very much intended for the sfr community, in fact, sfr and word of mouth were the only ways FnF parties were even 'promoted' then. Whether or not that makes FnF an 'official' sfr party could be debated. FnF does in fact continue to do this day though only once or twice a year. see ya ethan From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 23 21:24:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21760 invoked by uid 6000); 23 May 1999 21:24:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 21735 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 21:24:56 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 May 1999 21:24:56 -0000 Received: from TonicBond@aol.com (3928) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vQCAa02744; Sun, 23 May 1999 17:24:12 -0400 (EDT) From: TonicBond@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 17:24:12 EDT Subject: scene consciousness To: AdidasXE7@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That's where we see the problem... Don't get me wrong... We take the good ones the younger kids... We know are in the scene for the right reason... And we show them by example... But you obviously understand... The younger you are... The more stereotypes you will have to disprove... About yourself... I understand you must be totally frustrated by... Us always expecting you to disprove that stereotype... But do know that's how we, I, challenge you to better yourself... And keep it real to yourself... You sound like you have a great head on your shoulders... So now here comes the challenge... Try to bring people up to your level of consciousness... So as the scene gets bigger there are the ones out there trying to change the world... Not in vein, but with the innate knowledge that it is what we need to do... Trying to keep my head in the right place... AME From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 23 22:04:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3304 invoked by uid 6000); 23 May 1999 22:04:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 3295 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 22:04:45 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 May 1999 22:04:45 -0000 Received: from Kandehata@aol.com (3700) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rNTFa02627; Sun, 23 May 1999 18:03:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Kandehata@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 18:03:26 EDT Subject: Re: best broken up party ever, children of the sun... To: binary_fineboy@iname.com, Kalika1196@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/23/99 12:56:48 PM PDT, binary_fineboy@iname.com writes: << awww ... it really does my heart good to know that its not the party that counts ... its the drugs keep on shroomin gurl, and just think ... next time you can save the 20 bucks for the party and just trip in the parking lot!!! >> i think somone goes to WAAAAAAAAAY too many trance parties and takes WAAAAAAAAAAAY too much acid and E?????(first light) anyone????HAHAHHA AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHA A From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 23 22:53:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20140 invoked by uid 6000); 23 May 1999 22:53:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 20132 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 22:53:45 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 May 1999 22:53:45 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com (14399) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPHQa06834 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 18:52:47 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 18:52:46 EDT Subject: WE GOT THE FUNK....sorta To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok this party was cool...sort of. i admit i dont like house music too much but i was willing to go for my gurl. turned out the nite was just kinda boring. the sound at 85th and baldwin was loud and leaked really bad. when we got there i was determined to geet trid of my bag of lolipops before ddancing. so in 30 minutes or less all 500 were gone and i proceeded to look for a glowstik vendor... and of course with my luck there wasnt one. so here i am feeling half naked with one glowstik i had brought and trying to dance to this mashy noise.....er house...but it was good when u could hear the melody and not the bass all the time (i hate it when the only thing that u can hear is the bass drum..i need melody!!!) now is it just me or is the point of going to a rave..to dance......i mean i certainly got the idea that thats what the loud music is for....but obviously this wasnt the goal of this party. I saw maybe 1 out of 15-20-40? kids dancing and the rest either selling, consuming, or looking for drugs. it was pretty dissapointing when we were so sick of it all that we left without hearing Dan. so anyway if anyone else went and had a good time im REALLY happy for u but i think ill stick to trance. -orion From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 23 23:40:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5927 invoked by uid 6000); 23 May 1999 23:40:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 5907 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 23:40:26 -0000 Received: from web304.yahoomail.com (HELO send304.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.186) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 May 1999 23:40:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19990523234100.2412.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [208.255.83.170] by web304.yahoomail.com; Sun, 23 May 1999 16:41:00 PDT Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 16:41:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Gosiewski Subject: Re: scene consciousness To: TonicBond@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Great Post!... As I was Saying to Leslie last week, Our scene is one of the few places left in the modern world where the forces of light can find recruits! ... Ritual ecstatic dance is an evolving tradition thousands of years old ... we must make sure the thread is not lost or today's newbies will be unprepared for the future that is their evolutionary right ... The challenges we face have to do with maintaining and advancing the conciousness of the scene's participants ... If we can do that the size of the scene will not be a problem ... As a community we need to be reaching for the highest common denominator, not the lowest ... Keep the Faith, Stefan G. (The Ten Thousand year old Raver) Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 00:11:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14758 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 00:11:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 14749 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 00:11:18 -0000 Received: from web216.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.116) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 00:11:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990524001101.17992.rocketmail@web216.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.103.212.175] by web216.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 23 May 1999 17:11:01 PDT Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 17:11:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Ozbourne Subject: That wasn't worth $25!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk After not posting for a couple of months, I decided to come out of the closet to throw in my two cents about last night. I headed to Oakland expecting a big house party, and what I got was 3 sound systems, a laser, and some DJ's. Yeah the music was good, but what is up with charging $25 for a party that was obviously setup in 2 hours, has no decorations, no thought, and nothing other than a big wharehouse? Maybe I'm just jaded from the other big parties I've been to up here, but this one felt like I was getting ripped off. Things that make you go hmmmm. l8, J PS. How were the other parties? Maybe we should have just gone to one of the others? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 00:20:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16779 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 00:20:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 16634 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 00:20:37 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 00:20:37 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com (3952) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLJJa02104; Sun, 23 May 1999 20:19:55 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 20:19:55 EDT Subject: Re: scene consciousness (please read) To: TonicBond@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm just glad I went to my first party with the people I did. They basically told me all of the unwritten laws about parties that should be followed but some people still dont even realize. When there is no parental supervision, and you get 2,000 teenagers and young adults together, for some reason some people think its ok to tag shit, take as many drugs as possible, blow on their whistles, rub oil and stuff on people who most likely dont want it on them... etc. My friends explained to me that i'm not ever under any circumstances doin any drugs that start with c. I'm glad I listened to them now after seeing some of the friends I made in this scence totally addicted to amphetamines and methamphetamines... crank, crystal etc. and told me things that were obviously common sense but things I've seen myself now like people fucking next to me while I was asleep. ( I went sober to that party) In my opinion whenever you take a new person to a party tell them some ground rules no matter how simple they might seem. thanx for readin this matt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 00:29:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20126 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 00:29:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 20117 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 00:29:09 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 00:29:09 -0000 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.9.3/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA05933; Sun, 23 May 1999 17:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 17:29:07 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-Sender: andy@atari To: Stefan Gosiewski cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: scene consciousness In-Reply-To: <19990523234100.2412.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 23 May 1999, Stefan Gosiewski wrote: -&e->... As a community we need to be reaching for the highest common -&e->denominator, not the lowest ... W - O - R - D . andyw From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 00:29:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20602 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 00:29:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 20504 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 00:29:19 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 00:29:19 -0000 Received: from KidOnix@aol.com (229) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3GRUa19847 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 20:27:42 -0400 (EDT) From: KidOnix@aol.com Message-ID: <32e4ae95.2479f6fe@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 20:27:42 EDT Subject: NRR: Paging Mathew To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 00:39:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24987 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 00:39:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 24970 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 00:39:47 -0000 Received: from pez.hyperreal.org (207.181.224.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 00:39:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 68438 invoked by uid 4000); 24 May 1999 00:41:09 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 May 1999 00:41:09 -0000 Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 17:41:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Behlendorf To: Pogobee@aol.com cc: SFraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: sfr list parties In-Reply-To: <36296ab9.2478da22@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 23 May 1999 Pogobee@aol.com wrote: > i think macadio is correct about Friends and Family being the first crew to > throw a party for the list. Nope, actually, some folks from SFR threw a daytime picnic in May 1992, and a full-blown nighttime party in August of that same year. FNF came along in 1993/1994, I think, and yes initially it came out of people on the list, but lots of crews since then have also spawned out of the list. Brian the historian. =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 00:52:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28638 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 00:52:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 28626 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 00:51:59 -0000 Received: from dot.crosswinds.net (204.50.152.131) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 00:51:59 -0000 Received: from panduhboi (ip122.san-francisco31.ca.pub-ip.psi.net [38.28.81.122]) by dot.crosswinds.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA19184 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 20:59:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from nemo@crosswinds.net) Message-ID: <001001bea57e$8195e7e0$7a511c26@panduhboi> From: "Anton" To: "sfraves" Subject: 2-Years of T&J!! Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 17:42:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01BEA543.A4800DC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BEA543.A4800DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, i'd just like to say that this party was even better than i had = ever hoped for... in fact, i can't think of one way to have made the = night go better, EXCEPT... perhaps one...=20 I brought a friend of mine along who lives in stockton, it was his 3rd = party, and we got in at 10, and then not even an hour and a half later, = i find out that he had gotten "walked out" because he was "dealing"... = i could NOT BELIEVE THIS... i screamed at the security guards to search = him, but he kept giving me some shit saying it "wasn't his job". i = even talked to Denise about it, but still... there was NOTHING that = could be done, i put sooo much into this party... i can only thank = heavens for people like ron. i'm sure a FAIR AMOUNT of you all know who = that is... and if you don't, then SHAME ON YOU!! ^_~ Anyways, i finally found him a car to sleep in and he at LEAST got = refunded... but i'm still a bit unnerved by that whole incident. =20 but back to tha party-- it was one of the most together parties i've seen & some of the kneetest = visuals & lasers... thomas rocked, denise, DYLOOT!! i missed micron = though... =3D( and yet even the quite possibly BEST part was all of = the ROOOOOOOOOOOM there was!!! it was vibe creation ALL OVER for me = again!! cept this time i was rollin' BALLLLLLLLLLZ. *mwah* luv u = alida & anna, yer tha BEST!!! EVVVVERYONE ELSE, u know who u all = are!!! GRRRRRREAT PARTY!!! Luv an Lite, Anton ( nEmo ) btw, did anyone see that 80 year-old man? he was sooo dope!!! ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BEA543.A4800DC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well, i'd just like to say = that this=20 party was even better than i had ever hoped for... in fact, i can't = think of one=20 way to have made the night go better, EXCEPT... perhaps one... =
I brought a friend of mine = along who=20 lives in stockton, it was his 3rd party, and we got in at 10, and then = not even=20 an hour and a half later, i find out that he had gotten "walked out" = because he=20 was "dealing"...   i could NOT BELIEVE THIS... i screamed at = the=20 security guards to search him, but he kept giving me some shit saying it = "wasn't=20 his job".   i even talked to Denise about it, but still... = there was=20 NOTHING that could be done, i put sooo much into this party... i can = only thank=20 heavens for people like ron. i'm sure a FAIR AMOUNT of you all know who = that=20 is... and if you don't, then SHAME ON YOU!! ^_~
Anyways, i finally found him = a car to=20 sleep in and he at LEAST got refunded... but i'm still a bit unnerved by = that=20 whole incident. 
but back to tha = party--
it was one of the most = together parties=20 i've seen & some of the kneetest visuals & = lasers...  thomas=20 rocked, denise, DYLOOT!! i missed micron though... = =3D(    =20 and yet even the quite possibly BEST part was all of the ROOOOOOOOOOOM = there=20 was!!!  it was vibe creation ALL OVER for me again!! cept this time = i was=20 rollin' BALLLLLLLLLLZ.    *mwah* luv u alida & anna, = yer tha=20 BEST!!!   EVVVVERYONE ELSE, u know who u all = are!!!  =20 GRRRRRREAT PARTY!!!
 
Luv an Lite,
Anton  ( nEmo = )
 
btw, did anyone see that 80 = year-old=20 man?  he was sooo dope!!!
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BEA543.A4800DC0-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 01:02:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1852 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 01:02:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 1829 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 01:02:05 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 01:02:05 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA01647; Sun, 23 May 1999 18:02:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905240102.SAA01647@mail.netwiz.net> To: Brian Behlendorf cc: Pogobee@aol.com, SFraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: sfr list parties In-reply-to: Your message of Sun, 23 May 1999 17:41:09 -0700 Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 18:02:03 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Nope, actually, some folks from SFR threw a daytime picnic in May 1992, >and a full-blown nighttime party in August of that same year. FNF came >along in 1993/1994, I think, and yes initially it came out of people on >the list, but lots of crews since then have also spawned out of the list. Yeah, I remember that party. It was somewhere in the berkeley oakland hills. Unfortunately, it was on the same day as the rodney king verdict and the LA riots, which was perhaps the reason why some of us came back to our cars and found our passenger windows smashed (there were about five cars parked in a row which had their windows broken, including my beloved Rx7...). It was def. a rodney king thing because absolutely nothing was stolen from my car. But it was a fun party. Too bad you can't just set up a soundsystem in a park anymore. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 01:25:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12469 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 01:25:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 12457 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 01:25:12 -0000 Received: from ns1.covalent.net (HELO zuul.covalent.net) (208.214.56.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 01:25:12 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (Mail.NetWiz.Net [208.136.106.6]) by zuul.covalent.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA03927 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 19:35:51 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from npm@mail.netwiz.net) Received: from mail.netwiz.net (BayArea56k599.NetWiz.Net [208.164.208.199] (may be forged)) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA30885; Sun, 23 May 1999 17:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905240035.RAA30885@mail.netwiz.net> To: "San FranDisco Ravers List" Cc: TonicBond@aol.com Subject: Re: scene consciousness Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 17:36:14 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > To: AdidasXE7@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org > ... > I understand you must be totally frustrated by... > Us always expecting you to disprove that stereotype... > But do know that's how we, I, challenge you to better yourself... > And keep it real to yourself... > You sound like you have a great head on your shoulders... Aren't you writing to the luser AdidasXE7 that just posted to the list how s/he smokes Crack (literally), that he's done research on every drug he's ever done and that he feels he's "mature enough to do everything I do"... And then, to top it off, he posts "oops, I didn't mean to post that to the list"... Sorry, smoking crack isn't an excuse for not knowing how to handle your e-mail. But hey, I guess we should count ourselves as lucky because at least s/he's just fucking-up operating his computer, instead of driving under the influence... (s/he's probably researched that too, and done it many times and he can handle it, right?...). > And keep it real to yourself... > So now here comes the challenge... > Try to bring people up to your level of consciousness... This is exactly what I fear. Crackhead consciousness. How is this person going to bring anybody up to anything when he's announced to all and sundry that he's in the toilet and ready to pull the lever. "Keep it real to yourself?" What a complete load of bullshit. I'm sure Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Kazinsky and other sociopaths thought they were being real to themselves too... too bad they had to kill so many people in such horrible ways. Who gives a shit if you're being "real to yourself"... we'll judge you and jail you and diss or dissmiss you by OUR RULES, not your own. I fear our "sibling society" (c.f. Robert Bly's excellent book of the same title) with the blind leading the blind, casting off any of the wisdom of thousands of years of human culture as a bunch of "old stuff" that simply doesn't apply to them because humanity miraculously reinvented itself suddenly for their generation and their generation only. So they categorically deny anything their parents believe in, and dismiss any knowledge and learning from the past as "old stuff" that doesn't apply to their lives .... The reality is that they think reinvented humanity through close examination of their navels, and they're just going to have to learn every lesson in the book the hard way, even though the book is written, the teachers are there... but the kids are simply too lazy and stupid and complacent to learn the lessons of their forefathers (and foremothers). (it doesn't help that these kids' parents are often themselves the product of the ethical and moral vacuum that comprises our "sibling society"...). This kind of trendy youth-culture thinking is a crock of shit, and I'm calling you all on it. Of course, the real blame lies on stupid parents that raise kids that think this way. And perhaps kids are rightfully thinking this way because American parents are not providing their kids with anything to respect in the first place, other than an obeisance to crass and planet-destroying consumerism. Pair that with a consumer culture and consumer ethics that purposefully spawns trends and instant obsolecence, brainwashing us into believing that "old==bad" and "trendy/new==good"... and you've got Amerikkka today, marching towards some mythical notion of "progress" by crawling through our own sphincters... My advice: Go ahead and learn the lessons of your parents and forefathers and culture. Even if your parents are utter fools, even if you think your culture or religion sucks, remember, your parents are Jedi masters in their own right simply by having survived to raise you to the stage of your own natural rebellion. They have lessons to teach and the wisdom of their parents and their culture to pass on to you, should you be willing to accept it. If nothing else, simply examine how fucked up their lives are and learn how they got that way, and map a path for your future that won't take you down the path of their mistakes. After learning their ways, if you still disagree, or feel you've found a 'better way', then go ahead and diss them, or give us some precise reasons why you're right and everybody else is wrong. But don't categorically deny them simply because it's fashionable. Also, remember you have your whole life to be an adult, get fucked up, party all night, survive, work, fuck, whatever. But your youth only happens once, cherish it, learn from it, because you can never go back (no matter how much CandE you wear), and you can never look upon the world with the same innocense and wonder as you could during your youth, before you discovered just how dog-eat-dog the world really is... Besides, your brain will never be as sharp nor your body as strong as when you are young. > So as the scene gets bigger there are the ones out there trying to change the > world... > Not in vein, but with the innate knowledge that it is what we need to do.. You've got a way with words, but you won't get away this time... what the hell does this mean? It means nothing. It is a waste of words. Positive, yes, useless, yes. Meaningless, yes. This is symbolic of youth culture thinking if I've ever seen it. Elevator music for the soul. Let me try to set the record straight: Humans have very little innate knowledge. We are pretty far removed from animals, and even our closest ancestors (monkeys and apes) have very long socialization periods where they learn from their parents and their pack. Ones that don't socialize, for whatever reasons, have very little chance of surviving and are ostracised from the pack. So, if you want to pretend you're an animal, don't be surprised if you get kicked to the curb like a rabid dog... -------------------- If you're all wondering what I'm going off about, take a look at this gem of luserhood, which is an excellent example of what I'm talking about: > Subject: Re: KRR: (of course) Over-Protective Parents > From: AdidasXE7@aol.com > Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 18:48:36 EDT > To: Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu > cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org > ---------------------------------------- > So I cant fry, shroom, or roll, but I can do coke, k, smoke weed, nitrous, > pcp, and smoke a fat bowl of crack. I don't think its right for you to say > what drugs a person is mature enough to do. I've researched every drug I've > ever done before I did it and I feel I'm mature enough to do everything I do. > I see no problem with me staying out all night listening to my favorite kinds > of music with my friends dancin the night away. -------------------- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 01:31:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16639 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 01:31:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 16630 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 01:31:52 -0000 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 01:31:52 -0000 Received: from [209.157.52.166] (dynamic56.pm03.east-bay.best.com [209.157.52.184]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id SAA22313 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 18:31:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: sftrance@shell18.ba.best.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="============_-1284612928==_============" Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 18:32:46 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: MODA Subject: E M A G I N A T I O N review Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --============_-1284612928==_============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" So, Prophet, Jenn and I headed out to Sacto. to come upon this incredible space used for Emagination, The Arch Rock Climbing Center. In the past, I've heard about some intense D N' B events going off there, so, it was in my favor that I had to play the event, so that I had a good reason to drive the 1+ hour and see this site. When we arrived, we heard the JK system booming the talents of Mystere. I got in to find out that my time slot was changed to 2:15 am rather than 2:45...oooppps. But, Mystere, as he is good at doing, had the crowd hyped and it was my pleasure to continue. Like the night before in Sebastopol, I got to experience a new crowd, and I was very pleased with their reaction. Progressive and Cyber Trance are definitely maturing nicely on the West Coast. The promoter, No Hesitation Productions, did a great job of organization for their first event. The sound, laser and lighting effects were commendable and the vibe was defintiely good. Sacramento definitely has the population and the vibe to support a strong scene. I consider myself very fortunate to travel and play throughout the States, Canada, Europe and soon, South of the equator. 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imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 02:13:27 -0000 Received: from TonicBond@aol.com (14402) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id lKVGa02105; Sun, 23 May 1999 22:11:11 -0400 (EDT) From: TonicBond@aol.com Message-ID: <158b8f93.247a0f3e@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 22:11:10 EDT Subject: Re: Re: scene consciousness To: npm@mail.netwiz.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk FIRST OF ALL=20 for someone with so many words you, of all people, should know that you can=20 catch more flies with honey AND B i will never read a posting that long THREE I'm so sorry that your set in your ways and not open to that side of yoursel= f keep the criticism coming really I revel in it I love old crotchety ravers with too much ego to care! But I wont hold that against you FINALLY People should never offer advice If someone is asking for it Keep asking them questions They already know the answer=20 I am sorry to those of you that couldn't comprehend: > So as the scene gets bigger there are the ones out there trying to change=20 the=20 > world... > Not in vein, but with the innate knowledge that it is what we need to do= =85 I'll try and stick to the verbiage of your mentality sorry to bitch AME From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 02:23:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9611 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 02:23:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 9540 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 02:23:27 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 02:23:27 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (535) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3RKFa02744 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 22:22:09 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <43e8c2aa.247a11d3@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 22:22:11 EDT Subject: High Society (nrr but dr) To: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk People magazine, tabloid that it is, has an article in their latest issue called "High Society". It's very brief but basically it talks about Prince William and this guy that he looks up to/hangs out with and how he does drugs. THe guy (Tom Parker Bowles) apparently admitted to doing cocaine and was arrested for possesion of marijuana and ecstacy. This guy also apparently takes Prince William clubbing.... makes you wonder??? hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 02:23:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10369 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 02:23:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 10119 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 02:23:47 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 02:23:47 -0000 Received: from TonicBond@aol.com (14402) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vWZDa02743 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 22:22:42 -0400 (EDT) From: TonicBond@aol.com Message-ID: <42d44bbb.247a11f2@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 22:22:42 EDT Subject: No Subject To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i apologize yo stupid drama that's so not necessary From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 02:28:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12694 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 02:28:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 12685 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 02:28:34 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 02:28:34 -0000 Received: from Gammbino@aol.com (390) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vUQUa19484 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 22:27:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Gammbino@aol.com Message-ID: <98a0fb16.247a1301@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 22:27:13 EDT Subject: Vaca party To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey everyone lasnights party up in the hills of vacaville AKA cowtown was cool for the lil party it was The first two DJ's threw it off I'm not sure of their names =( then around 11:30 Telene!!! came on and started to scratch up the records!! and then this coo ass girl in baggy jeans and red tank top danced her heart out. I didn't get to see Greg Sandler,Pistachio,Tracer, and the others cause I had to leave at 12:30 =( anyways James great party and congrats to the newly weds!! PLUR ^v^Kent From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 02:53:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23142 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 02:53:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 23012 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 02:53:28 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 02:53:28 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (7993) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vRNZa21338 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 22:52:28 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <5a3638ec.247a18eb@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 22:52:27 EDT Subject: Re: scene consciousness To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/23/1999 4:40:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, stefango@yahoo.com writes: << Keep the Faith, Stefan G. (The Ten Thousand year old Raver) >> Is that all? I thought you were a bit older than that Stefan. hahahahaha Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 03:14:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1325 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 03:14:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 1314 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 03:14:37 -0000 Received: from web508.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (128.11.68.75) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 03:14:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990524031751.4628.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [216.103.212.175] by web508.yahoomail.com; Sun, 23 May 1999 20:17:51 PDT Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 20:17:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Knutsen Subject: 12 monkeys SUCK! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Worst party I've ever been too. Chris Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 03:17:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2543 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 03:17:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 2535 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 03:17:45 -0000 Received: from law-f80.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.143) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 03:17:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 47797 invoked by uid 0); 24 May 1999 03:17:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990524031718.47796.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 24.1.122.247 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 23 May 1999 20:17:17 PDT X-Originating-IP: [24.1.122.247] From: "ro ro" To: maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: questions about cyberfest99 Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 03:17:17 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Now I know what to call myself!!! I always wondered what happened in other rooms, but something in my ears keeps pulling me into that one room and that thing just keeps me there... no escape. WOO HOO!!! Head-bobbin, hoppin, crazies all around me as we let the breaks and basslines control our bodies... REWIND!!! REWIND!!! REWIND!!! >Once again, the junglist follows simple rules. Go with friends. Smoke up >in the car on the way in. Go in. Find jungle room. Remain there until >it is over or you have to go. Ignore everything else. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 03:23:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5170 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 03:23:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 5141 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 03:23:30 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 03:23:30 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com (7816) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vSKUa01450; Sun, 23 May 1999 23:22:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: <189a13ad.247a2002@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 23:22:42 EDT Subject: Re: a few thoughts To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/23/99 12:46:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, TeKnODiVa@AOL.COM writes: << GRR I'm so frustrated I don't even know what to say. >> Trice, Dont say anymore! Just keep smiling girl!!!! and breath every so often!!! =) HUGS*** Jeannie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 03:27:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7215 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 03:27:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 7176 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 03:27:24 -0000 Received: from law-f206.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.116) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 03:27:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 14202 invoked by uid 0); 24 May 1999 03:26:57 -0000 Message-ID: <19990524032657.14201.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 24.1.122.247 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 23 May 1999 20:26:57 PDT X-Originating-IP: [24.1.122.247] From: "ro ro" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: daily jungle spots? SJ or beyond... Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 03:26:57 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Can my fellow junglists give me some cool spots to chill at during the week in the SJ area? I know about this Sunday's thing and the Monday weekly at Ecco... anymore? I'll finally get to check out eklektic on thursdays, and there are the various big things on the weekends... I'm looking for little spots in the SJ area (or SF)... I need to recharge... I want to take a break from the big $$$ big spots... and then, EXPLOOOOOOOOSIOOOOOON!!! okaybye Ro From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 03:36:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10112 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 03:36:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 10103 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 03:36:13 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 03:36:13 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com (3925) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id lHJYa11104; Sun, 23 May 1999 23:35:01 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 23:34:58 EDT Subject: Re: scene consciousness To: npm@mail.netwiz.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org CC: TonicBond@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk LoL I can't believe people could take me so seriously... I was just saying that Mr. Delarosa said "kids" arent mature enough to do ectasy, acid, or mushrooms, but they are mature enough to do any other drug they choose. To set the record straight I dont smoke crack (even though I joke a lot about it) I dont do coke, crystal, crank, g, pcp, or acid. Ask anyone who knows me what kind of person I am and they'll most likely respond with a favorable response... go ahead call me a luser whatever the hell that means but just think about what your saying and get your facts straight before you post something to a public forum late matt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 03:53:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17317 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 03:53:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 17306 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 03:53:49 -0000 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 03:53:49 -0000 Received: from [209.157.52.99] (dynamic35.pm02.east-bay.best.com [209.157.52.99]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id UAA07436 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 20:53:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: sftrance@shell18.ba.best.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="============_-1284604454==_============" Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 20:53:59 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: MODA Subject: E F F L O R E S C E N C E review Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --============_-1284604454==_============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Oh, how good it felt to come back to The Bay Area from playing on the East Coast, AND have the opportunity to spin in my hometown, Sebastopol.....a small town opposed to parties, who chose to argue with the promoter but turn their heads the other way. My view of Sonoma County ravers? They ROCK! 500+ were dressed colorfully and smiling pretty as Mystere, Dutch, Alias, The Harmonics Crew, and the rest of the DJs and I spun the wax. I must say that I found myself pitching up the tracks after comng on following Alias' set. Me and my digital camera took lots of pictures of happy event-goers. Major props to Orion and his crew for putting on a good small event. 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invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 04:00:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 20307 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 04:00:19 -0000 Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (206.253.129.186) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 04:00:19 -0000 Received: from null.net (pm3-34.novato.cmc.net [12.7.203.227]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id AAA07881 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 00:02:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3748CF4F.1895A807@null.net> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 21:02:23 -0700 From: Jeremy Bartlett Reply-To: cand3man@hotmail.com Organization: #candEkids Prod. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.35 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: paging HK Ian Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk sorry fer the spam....but Ian, please email me Thanks :D From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 04:04:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23031 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 04:04:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 23021 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 04:04:23 -0000 Received: from pop04.iname.net (165.251.8.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 04:04:23 -0000 Received: from null.net (pm3-34.novato.cmc.net [12.7.203.227]) by pop04.iname.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id AAA22965 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 00:04:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3748D056.C0909745@null.net> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 21:06:47 -0700 From: Jeremy Bartlett Reply-To: candeman@hotmail.com Organization: #candEkids Prod. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.35 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Paging HK Ian (again) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk sorry.....Ian, the reply addy is candeman@hotmail.com Thanks again :) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 05:03:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14694 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 05:03:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 14671 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 05:03:01 -0000 Received: from baal.visi.com (HELO mail.visi.com) (209.98.98.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 05:03:01 -0000 Received: from isis.visi.com (diogenes@isis.visi.com [209.98.98.8]) by mail.visi.com (8.8.8/8.7.5) with ESMTP id AAA05040 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 00:02:59 -0500 (CDT) Posted-Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 00:02:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from diogenes@localhost) by isis.visi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA02742 for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Mon, 24 May 1999 00:02:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 00:02:59 -0500 From: Alex To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: orgin Message-ID: <19990524000258.R13683@isis.visi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok, so who's going to orgin and is it gonna be any good? i know everyone has their opinions on 2nd and Jackson, but regardless of that will it be a good party? i've never been to a nomad party before, so i'm kind of in the dark here. someone turn on the light for me. -alex From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 05:22:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23231 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 05:22:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 23210 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 05:22:19 -0000 Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (206.253.129.186) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 05:22:19 -0000 Received: from null.net (pm3-34.novato.cmc.net [12.7.203.227]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id BAA20884 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 01:24:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3748E29F.C457646B@null.net> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 22:24:48 -0700 From: Jeremy Bartlett Reply-To: candeman@hotmail.com Organization: #candEkids Prod. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.35 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: paging Hak Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk once again....sorry :) if Hak is on this list...or anyone knows how to get in contact with him....please email me at candeman@hotmail.com Thanks again :D candEman From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 05:25:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25619 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 05:25:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 25603 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 05:25:53 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 05:25:53 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com (3948) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vMLIa03101; Mon, 24 May 1999 01:24:41 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: <638178b3.247a3c99@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 01:24:41 EDT Subject: T&J Factory 2 Year Review To: sacraves@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk okay first off this isn't really a review.. this could have been the BEST party in the world and I wouldn't have known it because I didn't even go inside.. how ever i think some of the people working the party are the ruddest bunch of assholes EVER! maybe i'm just pissed off but damn, I got there over an hour early and asked the guy at the door if someone I knew was in there because of an emergency. he said.. I told him the name then he got all rude and was like.. "I HAVE TO TALK TO THOMAS!" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 05:28:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26889 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 05:28:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 26678 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 05:27:57 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 05:27:57 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com (3948) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vEPIa02742; Mon, 24 May 1999 01:27:18 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 01:27:17 EDT Subject: Re: T&J Factory 2 Year Review (cont) To: SACRAVES@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i was like its not that big of a deal.. any how he went in and like a second later came back and said theres NO one by that name here you should leave! i was soo pissed because i found out the person WAS there he didn't even check.. i'm still bitter! I hope everyone who did go had fun (hi greg! it was good to see you again!) it just killed my night besides (maybe) getting a ticket in SF for running a red light (even tho i didn't really.. so how accurate are those cameras???) <3 amber R From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 05:31:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27849 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 05:30:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 27840 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 05:30:57 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 05:30:57 -0000 Received: from NavySatan@aol.com (2616) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iQKUa27309; Mon, 24 May 1999 01:25:21 -0400 (EDT) From: NavySatan@aol.com Message-ID: <6a5f7e4f.247a3cc0@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 01:25:20 EDT Subject: paging Candeman's psychotherapist... To: candeman@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk will someone please help the BOY wearing the top hat w/smiley faces... thanks NavySatan From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 06:00:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9966 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 06:00:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 9827 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 06:00:15 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 06:00:15 -0000 Received: from SnShYn30@aol.com (3942) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vDLLa29329 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 01:59:11 -0400 (EDT) From: SnShYn30@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 01:59:10 EDT Subject: 12MoNkEyS ( A DisApOiNtMeNt?) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Okay was it just me or does 85th and baldwin have a terrible vibe? I have never been 2 a party where so many people have deliberately shoved and pushed and elbowed and it wasnt even that crowded. Also (and this was really scary) my friend decided 2 but her e from this gangster looking guy and she thought shed given him the 20 dollars but he said she hadnt so she got up in his face saying she had and he got up in hers saying that hed already been 2 jail 3 times for beating up girls, dont push him, so she left without her e. That was so scary and really ruined the vibe from the beginning. The worst thing about it was that Id given up a guest pass to the trance and jungle factory 2 year anniversary to go to this and see Dj Dan, and though Dan rocked, it just wasnt worth it. So I guess I have to agree with those who have posted about this party that it wasnt very good. The only great thing was that when Dan came on we got so close that we were able to slip under the caution tape and dance on the stage that he was spinning on. We were so close we could see the records he was spinning (hell yeah). That was pretty fun, but then I got sick, my friends boyfriend was kinda getting on other girls, and the other girl we brought was tired so we even left early :( All in all Id say that Im gonna steer clear of 85th and baldwin 4 awhile. To me its worse than 2nd and crackson, dirtier too. <3 Lisa <3 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 06:14:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14361 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 06:14:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 14332 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 06:14:52 -0000 Received: from c004-h007.c004.sfo.cp.net (HELO c004.sfo.cp.net) (209.228.14.63) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 06:14:52 -0000 Received: (cpmta 23785 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 23:14:50 -0700 Date: 23 May 1999 23:14:50 -0700 Message-ID: <19990524061450.23784.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> X-Sent: 24 May 1999 06:14:50 GMT Received: from [216.101.167.238] by mail.marijuana.com with HTTP; 23 May 1999 23:14:50 PDT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Taylor X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.0 Subject: Re: 12 monkeys SUCK! Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > Worst party I've ever been too. > > Chris I second that motion. But I met a few girls, so in a sad sort of way, I'm content with my night. Also, were those sound barriers supposed to do something? I thought it would of been nice if I could hear the music in one room with out dealing with the music in another room. hrmm.. what else? The lasers catching the projector cloth on fire was a nice touch. I could rant for a while, but it's not even worth it. Blah. -omen --------------------------------------------------------------------- Get your own @Marijuana.Com eMail address -> http://www.Marijuana.Com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 06:43:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25329 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 06:43:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 25321 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 06:43:48 -0000 Received: from sparky.inasec.ca (@207.176.144.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 06:43:48 -0000 Received: from a3a46569 (dnai-216-15-121-76.dialup.dnai.com [216.15.121.76]) by sparky.inasec.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id CAA18257; Mon, 24 May 1999 02:44:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by a3a46569 with Microsoft Mail id <01BEA578.8BCA92C0@a3a46569>; Mon, 24 May 1999 00:01:17 -0700 Message-ID: <01BEA578.8BCA92C0@a3a46569> From: Martin Soukup To: "'AdidasXE7@aol.com'" , "TonicBond@aol.com" , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Subject: RE: scene consciousness (please read) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 00:01:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Makes sense, but really these things should be common sense, and we = really shouldn't need to be told, shouldn't they? Aren't they? Well yes = apparently not. But why? -----Original Message----- From: AdidasXE7@aol.com [SMTP:AdidasXE7@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, May 23, 1999 5:20 PM To: TonicBond@aol.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: scene consciousness (please read) I'm just glad I went to my first party with the people I did. They = basically=20 told me all of the unwritten laws about parties that should be followed = but=20 some people still dont even realize. When there is no parental = supervision,=20 and you get 2,000 teenagers and young adults together, for some reason = some=20 people think its ok to tag shit, take as many drugs as possible, blow on = their whistles, rub oil and stuff on people who most likely dont want it = on=20 them... etc. My friends explained to me that i'm not ever under any=20 circumstances doin any drugs that start with c. I'm glad I listened to = them=20 now after seeing some of the friends I made in this scence totally = addicted=20 to amphetamines and methamphetamines... crank, crystal etc. and told me=20 things that were obviously common sense but things I've seen myself now = like=20 people fucking next to me while I was asleep. ( I went sober to that = party)=20 In my opinion whenever you take a new person to a party tell them some = ground=20 rules no matter how simple they might seem. thanx for readin this matt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 07:07:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1888 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 07:07:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 1879 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 07:07:11 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?IyvxdMOGx12D7/spnC8RoWSCeglMuKtm?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 07:07:11 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id AAA28012 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 00:07:10 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 00:07:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley Reply-To: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: all this drivel about old vs new, drugs vs music etc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What is the main problem with "communities?" They draw from the general population. What is the general population made of? An assload of knobs mixed in with some thoughtful curious, open-minded and supportive people, and a select few dedicated creative and motivated CONSTRUCTICONS. Now that the internet is so "available," its communities, like sfraves, begin to reflect more closely the rave community as a whole, which as "rave" has become more available has begun to reflect more closely the general populace. Does that make any sense? The rave scene has more knobs in it now than I'm sure it did in 92 when I used to diss girls who wanted me to go see Tony Garth Jeno and Spun with them with a "fuck that raver shit" mentality on my face. On the other hand, it has benefitted from johnny-come-latelys who join and pump some vigor and zaniness back into the general mix. Are you an underground OG? there are still things happening that you can get into. Are you a brand-new-raveskateer with the crazy necklaces to prove it? There are things going on for you. Do you like goa and only goa? You've got stuff to do. This that the other. It always seems so mindless to me that anyone would complain about things. We live in the Bay, remember? Musically, artistically, there is more going on around here than anyone could ever have time to enjoy. Find what you like, and go like it. And tell a friend you think might like it. It's really not that hard to be AS BUBBLY AND SMILEY AS I AM NINETY FIVE PERCENT OF THE TIME. =D And remember, talking shit is always a good way to improve your mood, so carry on, internet soldiers. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 07:13:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3994 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 07:13:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 3968 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 07:13:52 -0000 Received: from sparky.inasec.ca (@207.176.144.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 07:13:52 -0000 Received: from a3a46569 (dnai-216-15-121-76.dialup.dnai.com [216.15.121.76]) by sparky.inasec.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id DAA18538; Mon, 24 May 1999 03:14:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by a3a46569 with Microsoft Mail id <01BEA57C.AF70B700@a3a46569>; Mon, 24 May 1999 00:30:55 -0700 Message-ID: <01BEA57C.AF70B700@a3a46569> From: Martin Soukup To: "'BigM009@aol.com'" , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Subject: RE: scene consciousness Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 00:30:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm an eight year old raver! -----Original Message----- From: BigM009@aol.com [SMTP:BigM009@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, May 23, 1999 7:52 PM To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: scene consciousness In a message dated 5/23/1999 4:40:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, stefango@yahoo.com writes: << Keep the Faith, Stefan G. (The Ten Thousand year old Raver) >> Is that all? I thought you were a bit older than that Stefan. hahahahaha Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 07:23:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7562 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 07:23:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 7547 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 07:23:27 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 07:23:27 -0000 Received: from PHUNKN3@aol.com (14437) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNGTa02691 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 03:22:42 -0400 (EDT) From: PHUNKN3@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 03:22:42 EDT Subject: BSP: Siren @ PHUNCKTION this tues.(dnb in motion!!!) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 56 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What up yall..... This Tuesday.....MAY 24th........ **PHUNCKTION** DRUM N BASS IN MOTION w/ residents: Noel. Juju & DUH mc special guest SIREN / Bassment this all goes down @ THE TOP every tues. 424 HAIGHT @ WEBSTER 10pm-2am / 21+ / 3 bones info/mailing list: 415.789.8000 x1147 upcoming guests: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ R.A.W. / L.A.. MACHETE / L.A. SINE / Platinum agent / PHILLY LEE / Metalheadz / U.K. aiight...out Noel PHUNCKATECK COMMUNICATIONS dj_noel_sf@hotmail.com htp://www.sfdb.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 07:35:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13781 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 07:35:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 13762 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 07:35:22 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?QUayawPue0XhiQo/p285dsnNeDrjp9OJ?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 07:35:22 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id AAA00509; Mon, 24 May 1999 00:35:21 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 00:35:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com Subject: Blue Room junglin Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Heh. I had a really good time at Blue Room. Very very nice crowd, pretty slammin location in terms of being right on the water, etc. etc. The sound in the jungle room was a bit wacky, but like if you were in the right place it was really really criss and nice. The talent assembled in that room was....amazing. Siren is a roughneck soldier. E-Sassin is the dark ranger. Teebee was... I still havne't gotten over how good and enthusiastic and crazy he was. Teebee was the Viking Titan. UFO! has got a weenurdude attitude, and his well placed whipcracks had the labia throbbin. And DJ Sage, as always, is the black wizard of the motherfucker. THAT IS SOME SERIOUS DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS BIZZNESS. nice1 Darrin, and blue room crew in full. YOU CAN DO IT. ALL NIGHT LONG. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 07:40:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15681 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 07:40:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 15670 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 07:40:03 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?mP4WFAVp3CPZhdLoRJuIHUc5sCNN+A6y?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 07:40:03 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id AAA00866 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 00:40:01 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 00:40:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: BSP: Siren @ PHUNCKTION this tues.(dnb in motion!!!) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On the real....if you haven't ever gotten to check out the patented DJ Siren Hopping Bunny Pon the 1s and 2s dance, you have not experienced the true wonder of the Bay Area drum & bass scene. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. Noel and Juju big up you chess for doing it for the people, and with the people. You can do it. And yes yes, the Phuncktion is the place for those of you who don't want to hear the same records as last DJ or last night, because you never know what sort of Talvin Singh/Remarc/Subbase 94 business might jump out and sound really slow and make everyone skin out. 10-4, duh, max On Mon, 24 May 1999 PHUNKN3@aol.com wrote: > What up yall..... > > This Tuesday.....MAY 24th........ > > **PHUNCKTION** > DRUM N BASS IN MOTION > w/ residents: Noel. Juju & DUH mc > > special guest > SIREN / Bassment > > > this all goes down @ THE TOP every tues. > 424 HAIGHT @ WEBSTER > 10pm-2am / 21+ / 3 bones > > info/mailing list: 415.789.8000 x1147 > > upcoming guests: > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > R.A.W. / L.A.. > MACHETE / L.A. > SINE / Platinum agent / PHILLY > LEE / Metalheadz / U.K. > > > > aiight...out > Noel > PHUNCKATECK COMMUNICATIONS > dj_noel_sf@hotmail.com > htp://www.sfdb.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 08:19:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28620 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 08:19:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 28518 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 08:19:17 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?49IQufMO/GPzcscXfrERyXIzJgFPowWx?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 08:19:17 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id BAA04208 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 01:19:15 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 01:19:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: bsp: EkLekTiC!! ~TeeBee~ and etc. + Miss E's rAvEr tyPInG! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk dude. this past saturday was Teebee's first ever gig in the US. And since I was there sort of conscious looking at the room, I know for a fact, MOST OF YOU SLEPT ON IT. But listen. This man floored those of us that were there. He is in very elite company as a producer, and now I can honestly say he is in elite company as a DJ as well. That NEVER HAPPENS it seems like. In any case, if you miss him Thursday at Eklektic, you will be a Top Shelf Nincompoop, and that's no joke. and now for the Miss E wisdom: Join Us Each & Every Thursday >>>>>>>>EKLEKTIC<<<<<<<< ((San Francisco Futurism)) THIS WEEK: In the Loft: DIRECT FROM NORWAY IN HIS FIRST TRIP STATESIDE!! TeeBee (Moving Shadow/Black Science Labs) Sage (Phunckateck/Eklektic) Echo - Phunckateck duhMC - (Phuncktion/Eklektic/kandEEznutz kreaux) GREEN RECORDINGS RECORD RELEASE PARTY FOR SAGE On the Lower Level: The PBS Crew: Mateo, No Battles, Buna and the one and only Arc Angel Gabe Real. 78 MINNA STREET 415.332.5800 X797 groundscore www.izmedia.com/eklektic www.izmedia.com/futurebreaks ************************** Groundscore & Eklektic will soon host a special night, June 4th, at The Bassment in Ten 15 Folsom in SF Are you down for DJ's Trace, Fierce and MC Rymetyme. Keep your ear to the ground and tune in to Future Breaks FM, Saturday's 90.3 FM 3-5PM - San Francisco's Essential Showcase of Drum 'n' Bass. *StAnD Up* SpeaK uP* Big Up* See ya on the dancefloor =) Miss E + dmarie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 08:19:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29427 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 08:19:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 29414 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 08:19:35 -0000 Received: from web901.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.76) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 08:19:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19990524081604.19725.rocketmail@web901.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.233.16.87] by web901.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 24 May 1999 01:16:04 PDT Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 01:16:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Johnathan Flight Subject: Rave Politics To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I spent a long time composing this post... As always, my opinions are, simply stated, my opinions. I do not mean to offend anyone. I welcome comments and discussion. Please don't flame me. This started as a reply to a post on this list... i almost didn't reply to it... but i curiously read to the end it, and the last bit REALLY struck a nerve. If you didn't read the orginal, you might want to read their post, or at least glance at the bottom of it, before reading my reply. The original post is attached at the end. RAVE POLITICS Folks, lets give up the dj/promoter worship. They're people too, just like you and me. There is NO big secret to it. There is no grand piece of enlightenment they posess. They can not walk on water, or end droughts, or even allow a small group of people to survive in the desert for an extended period of time. I mean, all right, fine, you like the music a certain dj plays. You think he's talented. Great! Buy their mixtape. But do you think that you've got to be some kind of old-school guru to be able to start buying records? Or to throw a party? You can be a dj too. You like techno? Trance? House? Jungle? Hardcore? Whatever. There are no membership cards you need to shop at record shops, and listening is free! It just takes a whole lot of practice, (and of course some money), and a bit of talent doesn't hurt... But why must this unneeded heirarchy be constantly reinforced? It makes me sick. I read all over the place complaints that the "underground" is elitist, and non accepting of new ravers. Well, how can one help but being removed from people who are treating him like he's so fucking cool yet they don't even know him? Of course they are going to think you're silly! (even if they don't tell you so!) As for those who promote the heirarchy from the other side, the "old schoolers" who think that they've got enough friends and just don't need any new ones, i've got a word about that too... I think that it's one of the REALLY lame things about the scene today is people getting all "old-schooled", with delisions that things were different in the "good old days", thinking that they know something that all the less experienced ravers dont. What's so fuckin difficult about dancing in a group of people to some good music with a grin on your face? Why does that need memberhship into some special club? And if you do feel like you don't need to meet any new people, then why do so many of you spend so much effort working on parties? So that you can wear that "staff badge", and parade around the party like you're someone important... Or stand at the door or sell water or whatever, just so that you can feel like you are part of the "inner circle" If you don't get that feeling from just being on the dance floor, there's either something wrong with the parties you're choosing, or there's something wrong with your attitude. my point: Rave politics are a load of shit. People who think that being involved in the scene makes them some person of great importance and high status are missing the point. And people who treat them like they are of some high status are being sold something shallow. (and they are sadly paying willingly, not knowing anything better) But more and more people are discovering this, and the "underground" is growning again. Not in the size of the parties necesarily, but there are a whole lot more people throwing free outdoor parties today then there ever were. More people are spinning records, and more people are discovering the true spirit of what it really can be. the first time you see a dance floor covered with people moving every which way... and hear the music rippling through your body, beat by beat, and start to move in your own space... everyone in their own space... but all together... all individuals, but unified through ritual, like individual stars coming together to compose the grandeur magnificence of the moonless twilight... when you reach that euphoira, that place, that higher state of consciousness, just by being a part of this ancient shamanistic ritual... when raving becomes almost a religious experience... then, you will realize that it really doesn't matter who's wearing the fuckin laminates. As people with experience and knowledge of the technical and logistical details of throwing raves, we should be open armed towards new people with fresh energy and ideas, and support their efforts. We should be teachers, leading by example. We should not behave like egotists, scoffing in arrogance. How are people going to discover the true spirit of raving unless they've experienced it? Hows this for an idea: The adopt a raver program. This is a damn good idea i think. I think that people who have been around in the scene for a few years and know the underground community should take a younger raver who only knows 2nd & jax and take them out for a night. It could be alot of fun. Meet people, get aquainted, make new friends, learn something too. People who want to do this should email me, and if there's alot of interest, maybe i'll organize something. Shit, i'll take you to a party if you want. Email me. Thanks for patiently reading my opinions. Hope everyone had a nice weekend. =) --jf --- FREQ MAGNET wrote: > *lol! someone sent this to me! i don't know if you > guys have seen it yet, but it cracks me the hell up! > hehe. (sorry if i'm a little anti-social > sometimes, as a "junglist") lol. i'm still a > newbie, but i guess i graduated early!* > love & rage, > catrina > > > How to maintain the essential level of drama > required to be a true scenester. > > Here are the grades: > > Grade 1 - INSTA-RAVER > > Less than three months in the scene. You still don't > know what all the fuss over vicks is about. You > love all the music, especially cheesy trance. You > have not yet figured out why others fuss incessantly > over someone who just plays a couple of records. > You have one pair of fat pants and you're trying to > figure out how not to trash the cuffs. You gladly > pay to get into parties and always take candy to > give to people because that's what you've heard > you're supposed to do. You make comments like > "everyone is just so friendly here". > > > Grade 2 - RAVER IN TRAINING > > Three to six months in the scene. You go to parties > to dance and will do so most of the night. You > still like most of the music but usually go to take > a break when they play jungle. You're still buying > music at hastings but you've given your copy of > "rave til dawn" to a friend. You've tried E but > haven't quite figured out what's so great about it. > You walked into > platinum one day to look but were intimidated by the > fact that you didn't know any of the artists names, > not to mention the high level of testosterone. > You've become somewhat annoyed at the high cost of > parties > and are wondering why some of your new friends > always get in for free. > > Grade 3 - RAVER CADET > > Six months to one year in the scene. You still like > to dance, but only when they play good house or > trance, unless, that is, your friend who you met a > couple of parties ago is playing in which case you > will dance to whatever style they're playing. Your > confusion regarding the magic of just playing a > couple of records starts to fade into blind worship > as you constantly hear the phrase "DJ" discussed in > a god-like context. You receive no less than ten to > twenty hugs when you walk into most parties from all > of your good friends you've met in the last couple > of months. You have learned not to eat a big meal > before going to a party and have found enough people > willing to rub you that E now has a bit more magic > than it did at first. You're not so much into the > candy anymore but you always seem to have vicks, > masks and for some reason a pair of scissors at > every party. You have stopped purchasing CDs at > hastings and prefer mix tapes, either given to you > from friends, or, purchased from the right record > stores. You have figured out that if you show up a > couple of hours early to a party not only do you get > to smoke pot with other RAVER CADETS but you get in > free cause you put stuff up on the wall. Your basic > training is now complete. At this point you may > take one of the RAVER paths > > 1: BASIC RAVER > The basic raver just contines exploring what's > already been learned. The BASIC RAVER overcomes > record store anxiety enough to start purchasing at > least a couple of records and manages to find an old > turntable at the > goodwill. > > 2: JUNGLIST > The junglist is a special type of raver. Known as > slight outcasts they eschew all other types of music > and can be heard muttering phrases like "Jungle is > the shit". Characteristics include anti-social > behaviour and limited rhythmic ability. > > 3: CANDY KID > The candy kid loves to love. Those that see hugs as > another party drug gravitate to this path. Usually > confused by the other raver types, well, usually > just confused. > > Each of these have their own unique qualities and > whichever route you choose you will be taking > advantage of the full on RAVER status. After an > additional year in the scene in one of the above > categories you can either stabalize your raver > training as you graduate to SCENSTER -or- you can > take one of the advanced paths > 1: DJ > 2: PROMOTER > > Discussing the details of these training paths is > beyond the scope of this article, and well, it's > just not done, discussing the secrets of DJing or > PROMOTING in public that is. Only > SCENESTERs/DJs/PROMOTERs are allowed to know the > inner workings of the scene. There is no > shortcutting this, you must go through the steps and > it is no shame to be an INSTA-RAVA, just don't try > to pretend your more than that and you won't bring > on the wrath of those who have gone before you. > > Much peace and love my fellow ravers and ravers in > training and remember, when you can snatch the candy > bracelet from my hand you will know the path that is > right for you. > > > > > > HotBot - Search smarter. > http://www.hotbot.com > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 08:36:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4433 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 08:36:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 4409 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 08:36:45 -0000 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (140.142.32.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 08:36:45 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id BAA28477; Mon, 24 May 1999 01:36:42 -0700 Message-ID: <006e01bea5c0$8bc37920$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: "Johnathan Flight" , Subject: Re: Rave Politics Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 01:36:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk wow, this needed to be said. there are too many who thrive off drama and superiority of knowledge, and ignore those who just want to dance. thanks for a very thoughtful remark before i crash out, alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- ...the unforgettable prestigious reaches manifested by the northwestern region... -=-Hieroglyphics -----Original Message----- From: Johnathan Flight To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Monday, May 24, 1999 1:19 AM Subject: Rave Politics > >I spent a long time composing this post... > >As always, my opinions are, simply stated, my >opinions. I do not mean to offend anyone. I welcome >comments and discussion. Please don't flame me. > > >This started as a reply to a post on this list... i >almost didn't reply to it... but i curiously read to >the end it, and the last bit REALLY struck a nerve. > >If you didn't read the orginal, you might want to read >their post, or at least glance at the bottom of it, >before reading my reply. The original post is >attached at the end. > > >RAVE POLITICS > > >Folks, lets give up the dj/promoter worship. They're >people too, just like you and me. There is NO big >secret to it. There is no grand piece of >enlightenment they posess. They can not walk on >water, or end droughts, or even allow a small group of >people to survive in the desert for an extended period >of time. > >I mean, all right, fine, you like the music a certain >dj plays. You think he's talented. Great! Buy their >mixtape. > >But do you think that you've got to be some kind of >old-school guru to be able to start buying records? >Or to throw a party? You can be a dj too. You like >techno? Trance? House? Jungle? Hardcore? >Whatever. There are no membership cards you need to >shop at record shops, and listening is free! It just >takes a whole lot of practice, (and of course some >money), and a bit of talent doesn't hurt... > >But why must this unneeded heirarchy be constantly >reinforced? It makes me sick. > >I read all over the place complaints that the >"underground" is elitist, and non accepting of new >ravers. Well, how can one help but being removed from > people who are treating him like he's so fucking cool >yet they don't even know him? Of course they are >going to think you're silly! (even if they don't tell >you so!) > >As for those who promote the heirarchy from the other >side, the "old schoolers" who think that they've got >enough friends and just don't need any new ones, i've >got a word about that too... > >I think that it's one of the REALLY lame things about >the scene today is people getting all "old-schooled", >with delisions that things were different in the "good >old days", thinking that they know something that all >the less experienced ravers dont. > >What's so fuckin difficult about dancing in a group of >people to some good music with a grin on your face? >Why does that need memberhship into some special club? > >And if you do feel like you don't need to meet any new >people, then why do so many of you spend so much >effort working on parties? So that you can wear that >"staff badge", and parade around the party like you're >someone important... Or stand at the door or sell >water or whatever, just so that you can feel like you >are part of the "inner circle" If you don't get that >feeling from just being on the dance floor, there's >either something wrong with the parties you're >choosing, or there's something wrong with your >attitude. > >my point: > >Rave politics are a load of shit. People who think >that being involved in the scene makes them some >person of great importance and high status are missing >the point. And people who treat them like they are of >some high status are being sold something shallow. >(and they are sadly paying willingly, not knowing >anything better) > >But more and more people are discovering this, and the >"underground" is growning again. Not in the size of >the parties necesarily, but there are a whole lot more >people throwing free outdoor parties today then there >ever were. More people are spinning records, and more >people are discovering the true spirit of what it >really can be. > >the first time you see a dance floor covered with >people moving every which way... and hear the music >rippling through your body, beat by beat, and start to >move in your own space... everyone in their own >space... but all together... all individuals, but >unified through ritual, like individual stars coming >together to compose the grandeur magnificence of the >moonless twilight... when you reach that euphoira, >that place, that higher state of consciousness, just >by being a part of this ancient shamanistic ritual... >when raving becomes almost a religious experience... >then, you will realize that it really doesn't matter >who's wearing the fuckin laminates. > >As people with experience and knowledge of the >technical and logistical details of throwing raves, we >should be open armed towards new people with fresh >energy and ideas, and support their efforts. > >We should be teachers, leading by example. We should >not behave like egotists, scoffing in arrogance. > >How are people going to discover the true spirit of >raving unless they've experienced it? > >Hows this for an idea: The adopt a raver program. >This is a damn good idea i think. I think that people >who have been around in the scene for a few years and >know the underground community should take a younger >raver who only knows 2nd & jax and take them out for a >night. It could be alot of fun. Meet people, get >aquainted, make new friends, learn something too. >People who want to do this should email me, and if >there's alot of interest, maybe i'll organize >something. Shit, i'll take you to a party if you >want. Email me. > >Thanks for patiently reading my opinions. Hope >everyone had a nice weekend. > >=) > >--jf > > >--- FREQ MAGNET wrote: >> *lol! someone sent this to me! i don't know if you >> guys have seen it yet, but it cracks me the hell up! >> hehe. (sorry if i'm a little anti-social >> sometimes, as a "junglist") lol. i'm still a >> newbie, but i guess i graduated early!* >> love & rage, >> catrina >> >> >> How to maintain the essential level of drama >> required to be a true scenester. >> >> Here are the grades: >> >> Grade 1 - INSTA-RAVER >> >> Less than three months in the scene. You still don't >> know what all the fuss over vicks is about. You >> love all the music, especially cheesy trance. You >> have not yet figured out why others fuss incessantly >> over someone who just plays a couple of records. >> You have one pair of fat pants and you're trying to >> figure out how not to trash the cuffs. You gladly >> pay to get into parties and always take candy to >> give to people because that's what you've heard >> you're supposed to do. You make comments like >> "everyone is just so friendly here". >> >> >> Grade 2 - RAVER IN TRAINING >> >> Three to six months in the scene. You go to parties >> to dance and will do so most of the night. You >> still like most of the music but usually go to take >> a break when they play jungle. You're still buying >> music at hastings but you've given your copy of >> "rave til dawn" to a friend. You've tried E but >> haven't quite figured out what's so great about it. >> You walked into >> platinum one day to look but were intimidated by the >> fact that you didn't know any of the artists names, >> not to mention the high level of testosterone. >> You've become somewhat annoyed at the high cost of >> parties >> and are wondering why some of your new friends >> always get in for free. >> >> Grade 3 - RAVER CADET >> >> Six months to one year in the scene. You still like >> to dance, but only when they play good house or >> trance, unless, that is, your friend who you met a >> couple of parties ago is playing in which case you >> will dance to whatever style they're playing. Your >> confusion regarding the magic of just playing a >> couple of records starts to fade into blind worship >> as you constantly hear the phrase "DJ" discussed in >> a god-like context. You receive no less than ten to >> twenty hugs when you walk into most parties from all >> of your good friends you've met in the last couple >> of months. You have learned not to eat a big meal >> before going to a party and have found enough people >> willing to rub you that E now has a bit more magic >> than it did at first. You're not so much into the >> candy anymore but you always seem to have vicks, >> masks and for some reason a pair of scissors at >> every party. You have stopped purchasing CDs at >> hastings and prefer mix tapes, either given to you >> from friends, or, purchased from the right record >> stores. You have figured out that if you show up a >> couple of hours early to a party not only do you get >> to smoke pot with other RAVER CADETS but you get in >> free cause you put stuff up on the wall. Your basic >> training is now complete. At this point you may >> take one of the RAVER paths >> >> 1: BASIC RAVER >> The basic raver just contines exploring what's >> already been learned. The BASIC RAVER overcomes >> record store anxiety enough to start purchasing at >> least a couple of records and manages to find an old >> turntable at the >> goodwill. >> >> 2: JUNGLIST >> The junglist is a special type of raver. Known as >> slight outcasts they eschew all other types of music >> and can be heard muttering phrases like "Jungle is >> the shit". Characteristics include anti-social >> behaviour and limited rhythmic ability. >> >> 3: CANDY KID >> The candy kid loves to love. Those that see hugs as >> another party drug gravitate to this path. Usually >> confused by the other raver types, well, usually >> just confused. >> >> Each of these have their own unique qualities and >> whichever route you choose you will be taking >> advantage of the full on RAVER status. After an >> additional year in the scene in one of the above >> categories you can either stabalize your raver >> training as you graduate to SCENSTER -or- you can >> take one of the advanced paths >> 1: DJ >> 2: PROMOTER >> >> Discussing the details of these training paths is >> beyond the scope of this article, and well, it's >> just not done, discussing the secrets of DJing or >> PROMOTING in public that is. Only >> SCENESTERs/DJs/PROMOTERs are allowed to know the >> inner workings of the scene. There is no >> shortcutting this, you must go through the steps and >> it is no shame to be an INSTA-RAVA, just don't try >> to pretend your more than that and you won't bring >> on the wrath of those who have gone before you. >> >> Much peace and love my fellow ravers and ravers in >> training and remember, when you can snatch the candy >> bracelet from my hand you will know the path that is >> right for you. >> >> >> >> >> >> HotBot - Search smarter. >> http://www.hotbot.com >> > >Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 10:08:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15207 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 10:07:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 15199 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 10:07:55 -0000 Received: from web801.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.61) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 10:07:55 -0000 Message-ID: <19990524101145.28707.rocketmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.188.198.59] by web801.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 24 May 1999 03:11:45 PDT Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 03:11:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: san jose---kickin it! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk thanks sj, its been real... I had a FABulous time in the south bay this weekend,from lovely house parties to precious family moments...:) i thank you for the oh -so -precious forget me nots. my last weekend here-next weekend and we have the Urban Assault representin--thank goddessness!!!! I will definitely be there for any situation put on by these folks. There will actually be weeklies down here NOW that I will have to drive more than 20 minutes to get to, i guess im not big on timing :) I guarantee I will be there though, with bells on (and i mean it) After next weekend, I will be a little further north, where the sun shines brighter in my eyes...HAH, Yipeeeeee! Jessica Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 12:12:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7517 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 12:12:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 7500 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 12:12:03 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 12:12:03 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.112] (congo-112.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.112]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA00442; Mon, 24 May 1999 05:11:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 04:58:34 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Mon) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello...today's quote is... Know ye not, each thing we prize Does from small beginnings rise? ----Mary Ann Lamb go back to sleep ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 14:21:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20697 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 14:21:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 20684 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 14:21:36 -0000 Received: from web1002.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.92) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 14:21:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990524142136.8116.rocketmail@web1002.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.173.238.226] by web1002.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 24 May 1999 07:21:36 PDT Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 07:21:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Brandon Trumble Subject: T&JF review To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This party was of the hook It was soooo much fun and I had the coolest time! I met the most beautiful people at that party and reunited w/ old friends as well. I wanna say hi to the lovely people I met last night like Tom (the 65 year old man on E), The vallejo High School math teacher that brought his students, his students, Lee, Molly, Ria, Crystal "Meth", Jerry who sold me the bombest E ive ever had, Hector (whom I first met at a bomb ass party called "Big Time" back in december) That girl with the boa that i was totally trippin of its fuzzyness, Julia, Ricky and my lovely long time friend whom i went with to celebrate our birthdays together Cheryl, Happy sweet 16... take care of Floress the Raver Bunny, I hope you enjoy her. Another longtime good friend Heather and Amanda thanks for driving us you are the bomb. If i missed you some how and you met me im sorry cuz i was rolling hard last night! But i love you all! Thank you Trance And Jungle Factory I couldn't have asked for a better birthday! Love to all Brandon "KyD" I never want to grow up! Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 15:01:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12279 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 15:01:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 12270 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 15:01:42 -0000 Received: from wya-oe20.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.85) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 15:01:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 65205 invoked by uid 0); 24 May 1999 15:05:24 -0000 Message-ID: <19990524150524.65204.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.254.230.21 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 24 May 1999 08:05:23 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.254.230.21] From: "ve anne" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: review - aspire presents trainwreck Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 15:05:23 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk five things i've learned from the aspire crews' pre-party on saturday: 1. spinnin recs while rollin' like mad on e is fun, just don't try to do it in front of people 2. gerlando is a cutie 3. alotta fagina's boobs float in water 4. nothing beats a good house party full of intoxicated party kids 5. the ASPiRE crew kicks ass and their party comin up is gonna be sooo fckin dope and you should all go :P~ *veanne From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 15:39:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28074 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 15:39:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 27890 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 15:38:20 -0000 Received: from mole.slip.net (207.171.193.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 15:38:20 -0000 Received: from [207.171.214.12] (helo=exchange1.vertical.com) by mole.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 10lwnm-0005n6-00 for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Mon, 24 May 1999 08:38:06 -0700 Received: by Exchange1.vertical.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 24 May 1999 08:34:23 -0700 Message-ID: From: Monique Whittaker To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: WE GOT THE FUNK....sorta Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 08:33:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I don't think the music had much to do with it. 12 monkeys is the most disorganized group of promoters I've ever seen! A bunch of amateurs who care nothing about what they are presenting. Once again...not a single dingle garbage can in the entire place. Thank god, this time I never had to use any of the bathrooms. The sound SUCKED!! You had to be right in front of the speakers to hear anything! If you were in front of the tables in the main room, it sounded like the music was somewhere entirely different. Charles Feelgood played for, what, 20 minutes?! Bones was awesome, DJ Dan pandered to the crowd. I had an incredible time, though. Dancing and hanging with my peeps is what its all about for me. We could have fun in a country bar if it came to that...but 20 freakin' dollars for such bullsh*t is unbelievable! I don't believe I will attend any more of their parties, no matter who is spinning. Aside from that, there were a couple incredible people there with fabulous vibes. If any of you know a guy named Roman who was handing out flyers for another rave and lives in Hayward..., I'd like to get in touch with him. He had amazing energy, he went to find a pen so we could exchange numbers, then he never came back :( If any y'all know of some parties coming up with some good hard driving house near SF, I'd love to hear about it! Thanks for letting me rant! :) -----Original Message----- From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com [mailto:OoNOTlKo0@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, May 23, 1999 3:53 PM To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: WE GOT THE FUNK....sorta ok this party was cool...sort of. i admit i dont like house music too much but i was willing to go for my gurl. turned out the nite was just kinda boring. the sound at 85th and baldwin was loud and leaked really bad. when we got there i was determined to geet trid of my bag of lolipops before ddancing. so in 30 minutes or less all 500 were gone and i proceeded to look for a glowstik vendor... and of course with my luck there wasnt one. so here i am feeling half naked with one glowstik i had brought and trying to dance to this mashy noise.....er house...but it was good when u could hear the melody and not the bass all the time (i hate it when the only thing that u can hear is the bass drum..i need melody!!!) now is it just me or is the point of going to a rave..to dance......i mean i certainly got the idea that thats what the loud music is for....but obviously this wasnt the goal of this party. I saw maybe 1 out of 15-20-40? kids dancing and the rest either selling, consuming, or looking for drugs. it was pretty dissapointing when we were so sick of it all that we left without hearing Dan. so anyway if anyone else went and had a good time im REALLY happy for u but i think ill stick to trance. -orion From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 16:21:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18820 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 16:21:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 18795 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 16:21:04 -0000 Received: from ns2.divi.com (HELO kms.divi.com) (199.97.190.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 16:21:04 -0000 Received: from rmarm.divi.com by kms.divi.com (8.8.8/DiviCom-KMS) id JAA29981; Mon, 24 May 1999 09:20:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990524162032.00bc58fc@kms> X-Sender: isaacl@kms X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 09:20:32 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Isaac Labugen Subject: children of the sun...journey postponed Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello people, hope all is well (or getting better) and everyone is resting up from a hectic weekend. Well, this last friday the children of the sun attempted to give you an evening of awesome beats, a super comfy vibe, and a overall good quality underground party. Unfortunately, things didn't turn out so super or comfy at all. We (crew) spent all morning, noon, and evening creating a relaxing environment for all to come and enjoy. We really planned hard on this party and wanted it to go off so phat I cant even explain. We just kept adding more and more to this party trying to make it better than we even could imagine. It later became very apparent that regardless of what we did or how hard we planned, this party was in danger of the early abrupt shutdown. I like to personally say that this was very sad for me and the crew. We really care about our attendees/fans and we feel terrible about this let down. THE EXPLANATION... I hope you all understand that the reason we did a map point, parking lot, and shuttle operation is to ensure the safety of the party. Our obvious goal is to make the venue look deserted and lesson the impact to the neighborhood. This operation has worked very successfully in the past, however the set of circumstances we were given were unforgiving. Apparently this is how the story go's....There was A group of young teenagers who were given permission to spend the evening at one of the teens house. This particular person decided to have her dad drive her and her friends to the parking lot of the party, how they beat the map point- we do not know. Once at the map point they took the shuttle on over to the party. The next thing I know, I get a call from my crew at the map point explaining how there are 5 mothers looking for there kids and more mothers on the way. We decided that we would handle it like the last party (yup, believe it or not this is the 2nd time this has happened- Last time it was a father looking for his daughter(April 3) and pick up two of the mothers and escort them through the party. It seemed like a pretty good idea, until 2 more mother's started circling our parking lot and got pulled over. They explained the whole deal to the cops- map point, parking lot, shuttle and the cops put the puzzle all together to well. They ended up pulling over our shuttle driver (who then got arrested?) and demanded to know where the party was. Well to make a longer story short, the cops found the location and the rest is history. As many of you saw, there were a group of parents who rally 'ed in front of the party looking for there kids. Unfortunately for us, they were all "HIGH" and we were cited for "harboring a minor". This is the main contributor to the break up, other than this problem we were A OK. I do not mean to bash or offend anyone with this explanation, but it is simply the truth and that's what were all in search of the truth. THE MONEY / THE MAKE UP / JULY 9TH From the get go, it has never been about the money. Money is nice, but we seldom get to see it and spend it. I decided to disclose our figures for public knowledge because we have nothing to hide. This party basically costed approx $4,500.00. We sold only 280 tickets, which put us slightly below our overhead. However, it was well worth the risk- which we all take when we create and attend an underground. I mean after all, hence the clarification underground. I'm sure we have all heard the whole make up party scenario and fancy explanations- but we will host a quality free outdoor party for all to enjoy. Many of you came out to hear Brad from moontribe and we will try to deliver him once again, for free. We will post info on this party soon, please keep a look out. July 9th....is the date of our next party. We have a cool space, and a really good line up. More info to come soon...418.835.3144 ***We hope this clears up any mis understanding's. We look forward to spending another day and evening with ya soon. peace, isaac/COTS :) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 16:27:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23696 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 16:27:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 23688 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 16:27:27 -0000 Received: from heinlein.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 16:27:27 -0000 Received: from godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.102.8]) by heinlein.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) with ESMTP id MAA08218; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:24:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA25592; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:24:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 12:24:09 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: We Got The Funk and STOLEN BAG!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk We Got The Funk just wasn't what i expected. For the size party it was, and for the revenue it brought in, 12monkeys could have spent more time and energy into making that place look great. the gathering sure has, but it looked like the party was set up in 5 minutes. it was way too dark in the whole place (my friends and i were running into poeple right and left b/c we couldn't see) and it would have been nice to have lasors set up in both main rooms, as well as some nice decorations hanging on the walls. i have high expectations for parties, as i should have considering i'm paying a hard earned $20 to get in. i have never been to a 12 monkeys party before but i don't think i'll be giving them my support again. on another note: my friend's bag got stolen!!!! please, if you have any info on this bag that can safely return it to it's owner there will be a substantial reward if the bag is returned with it's valuable contents: blue shoulder bag with black trim large enough to hold records "Lucas" brand contents: clear pager wallet (with the whole shabang!) hello kitty day planner keys (car, house, everything) glasses (needed for driving) birth control pills make-up bag cool water perfume again, i repeat, there is a substantial reward if this bag is returned. you can contact me at this e-mail address, or call alisyn at (408) 295-5413. it was unfortunate that she basically had her whole life in that bag, but this should not have happened anyways. she only turned around for one second and off these guys ran with her stuff. we even waited by the exit the whole night hoping to see someone leave with it, but no luck. i also hope this is a lesson to all of you not to keep anything of value in your bags, and to keep keys and pager on you at all times. too much happened to myself and my friends to make this party any fun, but my first impressions as i walked through the door weren't that great either. a big fat siskel and ebert double thumbs down. on a better note, sunday i picked up some friends who i haven't had a chance to really get to know and we cruised up from the east bay to santa rose for a party in a park in downtown santa rosa. even though we spent twice as much time in the car as we did at the party it was still so much fun (anyone know what this little get-together was called? and who was spinning?) much love, amber --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 16:33:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27875 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 16:33:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 27679 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 16:33:50 -0000 Received: from wya-oe21.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.86) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 16:33:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 14265 invoked by uid 0); 24 May 1999 16:35:30 -0000 Message-ID: <19990524163530.14264.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.250.189.220 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 24 May 1999 09:35:25 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.250.189.220] From: "ve anne" To: isaacl@divi.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: kids at parties(was children of the sun...) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:35:25 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk watching 13-15 year old kids drugged up on E at parties make me uneasy. if i suggest that all parties be 18+ to solve the problem of parents looking for their kids, am i being too harsh? veanne From: Isaac Labugen To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: children of the sun...journey postponed Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 09:20:32 -0700 Hello people, hope all is well (or getting better) and everyone is resting up from a hectic weekend. Well, this last friday the children of the sun attempted to give you an evening of awesome beats, a super comfy vibe, and a overall good quality underground party. Unfortunately, things didn't turn out so super or comfy at all. We (crew) spent all morning, noon, and evening creating a relaxing environment for all to come and enjoy. We really planned hard on this party and wanted it to go off so phat I cant even explain. We just kept adding more and more to this party trying to make it better than we even could imagine. It later became very apparent that regardless of what we did or how hard we planned, this party was in danger of the early abrupt shutdown. I like to personally say that this was very sad for me and the crew. We really care about our attendees/fans and we feel terrible about this let down. THE EXPLANATION... I hope you all understand that the reason we did a map point, parking lot, and shuttle operation is to ensure the safety of the party. Our obvious goal is to make the venue look deserted and lesson the impact to the neighborhood. This operation has worked very successfully in the past, however the set of circumstances we were given were unforgiving. Apparently this is how the story go's....There was A group of young teenagers who were given permission to spend the evening at one of the teens house. This particular person decided to have her dad drive her and her friends to the parking lot of the party, how they beat the map point- we do not know. Once at the map point they took the shuttle on over to the party. The next thing I know, I get a call from my crew at the map point explaining how there are 5 mothers looking for there kids and more mothers on the way. We decided that we would handle it like the last party (yup, believe it or not this is the 2nd time this has happened- Last time it was a father looking for his daughter(April 3) and pick up two of the mothers and escort them through the party. It seemed like a pretty good idea, until 2 more mother's started circling our parking lot and got pulled over. They explained the whole deal to the cops- map point, parking lot, shuttle and the cops put the puzzle all together to well. They ended up pulling over our shuttle driver (who then got arrested?) and demanded to know where the party was. Well to make a longer story short, the cops found the location and the rest is history. As many of you saw, there were a group of parents who rally 'ed in front of the party looking for there kids. Unfortunately for us, they were all "HIGH" and we were cited for "harboring a minor". This is the main contributor to the break up, other than this problem we were A OK. I do not mean to bash or offend anyone with this explanation, but it is simply the truth and that's what were all in search of the truth. THE MONEY / THE MAKE UP / JULY 9TH From the get go, it has never been about the money. Money is nice, but we seldom get to see it and spend it. I decided to disclose our figures for public knowledge because we have nothing to hide. This party basically costed approx $4,500.00. We sold only 280 tickets, which put us slightly below our overhead. However, it was well worth the risk- which we all take when we create and attend an underground. I mean after all, hence the clarification underground. I'm sure we have all heard the whole make up party scenario and fancy explanations- but we will host a quality free outdoor party for all to enjoy. Many of you came out to hear Brad from moontribe and we will try to deliver him once again, for free. We will post info on this party soon, please keep a look out. July 9th....is the date of our next party. We have a cool space, and a really good line up. More info to come soon...418.835.3144 ***We hope this clears up any mis understanding's. We look forward to spending another day and evening with ya soon. peace, isaac/COTS :) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 16:53:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8434 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 16:53:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 8426 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 16:53:34 -0000 Received: from pohl.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 16:53:34 -0000 Received: from godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.102.8]) by pohl.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id MAA01873; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:46:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA26967; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:46:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 12:46:40 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu To: ve anne cc: isaacl@divi.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: kids at parties(was children of the sun...) In-Reply-To: <19990524163530.14264.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk not really veanne. and pretty soon, with all this crap going on about kids disobeying thier parents and acting down right immature, parties are going to HAVE to be 18+ to keep the promoters from being charged with "harboring a minor" like COTS was, and to ensure that we will still have venues to use. didn't we lose maritime hall for a similar legality? much love, amber On Mon, 24 May 1999, ve anne wrote: > > watching 13-15 year old kids drugged up on E at parties make me uneasy. > if i suggest that all parties be 18+ to solve the problem of parents looking > for their kids, am i being too harsh? > > veanne --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 17:03:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17879 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 17:03:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 17863 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 17:03:17 -0000 Received: from web806.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 17:03:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990524170021.9192.rocketmail@web806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.99] by web806.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 24 May 1999 10:00:21 PDT Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 10:00:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: daily jungle spots? SJ or beyond... To: ro ro , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk here ya go sweetee heres a couple of cant misses during the week. there will soon be jungle in sj, weeklies on monday at club ecco, keep the eye out for that one, but most of this shit is in sf. Dont miss these two though, awesome music, great people, good beer, you dont have to be rich either :) (trust me on that one) Love, Jess Join UsEach & Every Thursday>>>>>>>>EKLEKTIC<<<<<<<<((San Francisco Futurism)) THIS WEEK:In the Loft:DIRECT FROM NORWAY IN HIS FIRST TRIP STATESIDE!! TeeBee (Moving Shadow/Black Science Labs)Sage (Phunckateck/Eklektic) Echo - PhunckateckduhMC - (Phuncktion/Eklektic/kandEEznutz kreaux) GREEN RECORDINGS RECORD RELEASE PARTY FOR SAGEOn the Lower Level: The PBS Crew: Mateo, No Battles, Buna and the one andonly Arc Angel Gabe Real. 78 MINNA STREET415.332.5800 X797 groundscorewww.izmedia.com/eklektic www.izmedia.com/futurebreaks************************** Groundscore & Eklektic will soon host a special night, June 4th, at The Bassment in Ten 15 Folsom in SF Are you down for DJ's Trace, Fierce and MC Rymetyme. Keep your ear to the ground and tune in to Future Breaks FM, Saturday's 90.3 FM 3-5PM - San Francisco's Essential Showcase of Drum 'n' Bass.*StAnD Up* SpeaK uP* Big Up* See ya on the dancefloor =)Miss E + dmarie AND ANOTHA>>> ........ **PHUNCKTION** DRUM N BASS IN MOTION w/ residents: Noel. Juju & DUH mc special guest SIREN / Bassment this all goes down @ THE TOP every tues. 424 HAIGHT @ WEBSTER 10pm-2am / 21+ / 3 bones info/mailing list: 415.789.8000 x1147 Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 17:13:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24681 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 17:13:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 24662 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 17:13:10 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 17:13:10 -0000 Message-ID: <19990524165600.534.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.170.3.85] by web1; Mon, 24 May 1999 09:56:00 PDT Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 09:56:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Joaqman Subject: T & J = fun fun fun To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk aiiight! i had a marvelous time at the party. as soon as i got there i fiended for the tables. hoping the sound check was over, i plugged in & started to cue up my first rec. then the o.k. was given and i started with jeff mills live. lotsa people were moving and groovin' and i got to hear all of my records at a onedurful volume. next tracer took the charge. i was totally expecting pure trance, but to my surprise, he played some stomping krazy tecno as well. i love surprises. eric brown was taking it to a Deeper level. slammin' thumping house. did you guys here that track with the speech by the supa-HO and how all her men couldn't get it to work for her? aw my gawd, i need this trak!!! i only saw eupohonic for a bit. but Bruce is a very consistent and committed to hard trance. please keep supporting him. you'll get your money's worth and then some. i caught the last part of Thomas's set and the crowd was peaking! everytime i see him play i feel great about working that 6th day on saturday for him at the store. the people loved him. i quickly ran in the nother room to catch micron .vs andyW. ah what glee!! it's good to see good dj's do good work and to do good work together. it shows that they can share and that they have their egos in check. after this, i caught the masta pimpstress herself. dj D in da house!!! playing great traks with a strong dose of 303 acid noise. no wonder she's getting booked all over town. fighting back the fatigue, i witnessed Eric Spire. excellent mixing soundtrack for my now dream/waking state. i saw visions of colored fields of joy listening to the music that he selected. i hugged Vertigo, but 22 hours of waking told me it was time to get to bed..... i also want to express gratitude to the crew grant gisela, amanda, sasha, sarood, brandon, omar, and many many more. lsd lighting and that kewl laser co. and extreme audio. i could actually breathe at 2nd and jackson which was very pleasant. thanks Nomad and Tom and Stacey. i saw many many friends some of them new including, heather, nick, joaquin, twinkie, mark and a ton of people i am forgetting right now. long live the Trance and Jungle Factory!!!!!!! Joaqman From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 17:55:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25666 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 17:55:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 25633 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 17:55:09 -0000 Received: from c004-h004.c004.sfo.cp.net (HELO c004.sfo.cp.net) (209.228.14.75) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 17:55:09 -0000 Received: (cpmta 12339 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 10:55:08 -0700 Date: 24 May 1999 10:55:08 -0700 Message-ID: <19990524175508.12338.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> X-Sent: 24 May 1999 17:55:08 GMT Received: from [216.101.167.238] by mail.marijuana.com with HTTP; 24 May 1999 10:55:08 PDT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Taylor X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.0 Subject: Re: Rave Politics Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I agree to an extent. I heard an advertisement on the _RADIO_ yesterday for Metropolis, the advertisement explained how underground the party was going to be. Does anyone else see a problem here? When all the old school kids whine about how the scene is steadily increasing in wackness, they are whining for a reason. It is. The truth hurts. There are still a lot of really dope parties out there, a lot of really dope crews, and TONS of kids that have been keeping it real from day 1. I'm only addressing the more main stream side of rave culture. The UG is still rocking, as it always will. Sorry for the harsh generalization. -omen PS: Flame me. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Get your own @Marijuana.Com eMail address -> http://www.Marijuana.Com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 18:01:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 993 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 18:01:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 654 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 18:01:20 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 18:01:20 -0000 Received: from Markis1012@aol.com (14448) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vBDHa19484 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:59:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Markis1012@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 13:59:44 EDT Subject: 12 monkeys SUCK! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_e5b0eb10.247aed90_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_e5b0eb10.247aed90_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit WOW. Thats crazy!! I didn't go to any parties last weekend but I heard about that WE GOT THE FUNK thrown by 12 monkeys. You should get into detail about what you did not like about this party. Did you NOT like the porn star? Was it the vibe? The location? The music? WHAT?!?!? I know the 12 monkeys crew and they are REALLY down to earth people. You shouldn't criticize a whole crew just because you didn't like ONE party that they threw. I think thats a little harsh! Next time you hit up A 12 monkeys party, make sure you like the location and the Dj's that are gonna be there. Otherwise you just might not like it. That goes for any other party you go to. But don't bag an entire crew just because YOU didn't like their party. I'm sure there were LOTS of kids that had a blast. markis(junglejunkie) --part1_e5b0eb10.247aed90_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: Markis1012@aol.com From: Markis1012@aol.com Full-name: Markis1012 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 13:58:35 EDT Subject: Re: 12 monkeys SUCK! To: knuttychris@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 WOW. Thats crazy!! I didn't go to any parties last weekend but I heard about that WE GOT THE FUNK thrown by 12 monkeys. You should get into detail about what you did not like about this party. Did you NOT like the porn star? Was it the vibe? The location? The music? WHAT?!?!? I know the 12 monkeys crew and they are REALLY down to earth people. You shouldn't criticize a whole crew just because you didn't like ONE party that they threw. I think thats a little harsh! Next time you hit up A 12 monkeys party, make sure you like the location and the Dj's that are gonna be there. Otherwise you just might not like it. That goes for any other party you go to. But don't bag an entire crew just because YOU didn't like their party. I'm sure there were LOTS of kids that had a blast. markis(junglejunkie) --part1_e5b0eb10.247aed90_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 18:15:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11057 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 18:14:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 10047 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 18:11:25 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 18:11:25 -0000 Received: from Markis1012@aol.com (14448) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id fOWYa03096; Mon, 24 May 1999 14:08:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Markis1012@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 14:08:22 EDT Subject: Re: orgin To: diogenes@visi.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ORigin?!?! I never heard of any origin party any time soon. The last I remember was on New Years Eve and it SUCKED HARDCORE. How are you gonna have 5000 people inside a location that is only supposed to hold 2000 people? You could only imagine the HAVOC me and my girlfriend went through. Parties at 2nd and Jackson SUCK ASS. I wouldn't care if DJ DAN was there, I STILL WOULD NOT GO. I HATE THAT LOCATION!! ARG!!!! markis(junglejunkie) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 18:15:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11120 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 18:14:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 10057 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 18:11:29 -0000 Received: from law2-f24.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.24) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 18:11:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 40398 invoked by uid 0); 24 May 1999 18:11:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19990524181102.40397.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 152.163.206.178 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 24 May 1999 11:11:02 PDT X-Originating-IP: [152.163.206.178] From: "da supahstar" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: mEtRoPoLiS....??.... Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 11:11:02 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk does anyone know the times for when the djs are spinning at metro? thanks! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 18:27:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24369 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 18:27:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 24048 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 18:26:56 -0000 Received: from mail.lunatic.org (207.171.204.205) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 18:26:56 -0000 Received: from impact.lunatic.org (localhost.lunatic.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lunatic.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA02410; Mon, 24 May 1999 11:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905241838.LAA02410@mail.lunatic.org> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org cc: DNGRBOY9@aol.com Subject: Re: Blue Room GOOF UP!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Did anyone actually get the directions before they gave up... I did end up making it. It was at a sound stage that I gather Blue Room have used before (really nice venue btw), so a lot of people did seem to have guessed where it was. Aside from the problem with the directions it was a really nice production. Teebee ended up putting on an amazing set. Lots of very subtle scratching and more tempo changes than stop and go traffic. 'could have really done without the MC though. -jan From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 18:33:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1748 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 18:33:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 1703 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 18:33:24 -0000 Received: from web135.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 18:33:24 -0000 Message-ID: <19990524183334.27482.rocketmail@web135.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web135.yahoomail.com; Mon, 24 May 1999 11:33:34 PDT Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 11:33:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: 12 Angery Mokeys =D To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk A party is a two-way street. The crowd has to put forth some effort to make a party happen. This didn't happen on Saturday. No body was dancing. And if anyone would start. A crazy chain of people would come charging through the mist of the dancers. There was some really good spot to hear the music. Which unfortantly was where the most of people were milling about. I usally don't mind if someone passes me while I'm dancing. But when groups as large as +15 are hitting you from every direction, it getting annoying. Another thing . . . THOSE FUNKING N20 BOTTLES!!!!! If you bring that crap in, bring it back out. Someone could really get hurt with those thing rolling around on the floor. I slipped a few times stepping on them. As for the 12 Monkeys . . . Lighting in the main roon (w/ Dan) was not there. The roaming flood lights going from no light to blinding colors is not my thing. I like a little ambaint soft tone. That way the roaming lights wont be soo harsh. OMG TWO WHOLE DOLLARS FOR WATER just kidding had to say that. Anyhoo, the sound did bleed, if you were way in the back or near a current. If you were too close, the monitors or something took away from the quality too. The good spots for the two main rooms where about 10-20 feet from the decks to about mid way out. Far back and you would loose the high then the bass of the other room would come into play. ANYHOO, I only went to dance and watch Dan spin. And in between being tramped, I did get to dance and I did see Dan. What didn't make it worth the 20 bucks was the poor attiude of the crowd. Next time we ALL should do better, not just the promoter kru. *HUGZ* pat ps: The prono queen was no biggie. Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 18:51:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17186 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 18:51:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 16985 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 18:51:09 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 18:51:09 -0000 Received: from Markis1012@aol.com (14383) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJKCa02742 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 14:50:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Markis1012@aol.com Message-ID: <1e52138c.247af969@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 14:50:17 EDT Subject: Just sayin To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I was just saying dude. I know the crew and they're HELLA cool. I haven't even been to a 12 monkeys party because of the lack of "jungle". I wont even go to a party unless there is jungle! It's a waste of time. Sorry you did have a good time though. I bet if there was a jungle room there I would have had fun. OH WELL!!! markis(junglejunkie)a.k.a. "OOPS?" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 18:52:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17816 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 18:52:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 17614 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 18:51:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 18:51:45 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 287 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 11:49:15 -0700 Message-ID: <37499FF0.F05AC3B@hrg.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 11:52:32 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFraves peeps Subject: BSP: Balance Full Moon Party this Sunday Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hiya peeps, This sunday we will be throwing full moon. we have a gorgeous location lined up and are ready to party in the arrival of summer. the line up: Onionz Rob Doten Taj John Rodriguez TJ Eric Erickson David Coleman w/ Sen-Sei on keys *this will be a free outdoor event we will be going all night long with a thumpin soundsystem providing the soundtrack to mother natures spectacle. 415 339-8015 for info www.SFHouse.com cant wait to see ya soon :) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 18:56:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24362 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 18:56:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 24289 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 18:56:11 -0000 Received: from fortune-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO fortune.excite.com) (198.3.99.203) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 18:56:11 -0000 Received: from bessie.excite.com ([199.172.152.102]) by fortune.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990524185543.FKQ7673.fortune@bessie.excite.com> for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 11:55:43 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: and the chasm widens???? Message-Id: <927572143.26310.270@excite.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 11:55:43 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk am i the only one who sees the irony in some recent posts on here? on the one hand, we have some ridiculous little ones posting who they bought illegal substances from at specific events... please! i know it makes each and every one of you little kiddies feel like the coolest of the cool to talk about your illegal activities in a public forum... but you know what???? it really makes you an idiot. stop it. ve anne, you should know better, you've been on here a while. bottom line, drugs are illegal.... got it????? you can go to jail. got it???? or send someone else to jail, or get an event shut down and everyone goes home and some people face criminal charges. got it??? and this list is *not* the same as having a personal conversation in your bedroom in your mommy and daddy's house! STOP IT!!!! and we learn that Children of the Sun was shut down because some kiddie's mom's were concerned about them and tracked them down... i put my money that there is some overlap here (and frankly if my 15-year-old lied like that, i'd go after them too!!). TAKE NOTE!!! little kiddies on drugs is NOT what makes this scene important and powerful.... and we have got to do something about this before what is so precious to so many adults (yes, ADULTS!!) is threatened forever!! i resent the thought that we have to go further underground, or completely resign ourselves to clubs, in order to keep out the kiddie-idiot factor that brings unwanted attention to parties. i happily vote that all parties should be 18-up... what/who we have to lose is worth the tradeoff of what we have to gain in the long run. we'll miss a handful of responsible young teens... but at least there will be a scene there when those people are old enough to party. (and in the meantime, i for one won't miss the pacifier chomping, eye-rolling 15-year-olds at parties.... it's pretty gross, really, cuz if that'syou, you are *missing the party, kiddies* and you don't look so cute in that candy gear then either!) and (lest you think i'm completly pissed off this morning...) on the other hand, we have had some thoughtful and serious posts lately from some very committed and insightful people... and some reminders of the history of this list, and in a completely connected way, the scene in the bay area in general... it is so encouraging to see that brian b. and ethan and neils are still on here, hanging in there even with the mindless chatter that one needs to weed through... (you guys are true troopers, thanks for not deserting us!) i sincerely hope that each of you on this list, young AND old, carefully reads and processes these different perspectives (um, in case you're not used to it... that means "read slowly, absorb what you're reading, try to see what someone's saying from a different perpsective than your own, until you really understand what someone is trying to communicate to you") .... you are reading words that have been composed for the specific purpose of sharing with you some history of where this all started, what happened along the way, what the history is... and without understanding the past, you cannot understand the present.... and you can't contribute meaningfully ot the future. when you read something someone has carefully written to share with the list... you have an opportunity to get some insight into some people who have been there.... who have done that... many of whom have CREATED it... please, take advantage of that opportunity... for instance, re-read what neils said about how the "youth culture" is creating rejection of a sense of "elders" in our society, much to our mutual loss, and think about what that really means... i'm not saying that the "elders" have all the answers.... of course not.... and you certainly won't agree with all of the different perspectives.... but there is much to learn, and you can avoid a lot of mistakes on your own if you try to take some lessons from those who have passed there before... don't limit yourself, take adavantage of other people's experiences. stefan is right when he says this is one world where we truly can recruit people into the "light" .... but that "light" is not some trippy drug-induced hallucination, kids. it is about music, about dance, about the tribal feeling of hundreds dancing together to the same beat, those moments of clarity when the music drowns out the incessant chatter in our heads, and what remains is the essence of what connects us. once again, raising our standards starts with each and every one of us. leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 19:03:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1056 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 19:03:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 1031 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 19:03:30 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 19:03:30 -0000 Message-ID: <19990524184620.5138.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.132.215.70] by web1; Mon, 24 May 1999 11:46:20 PDT Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 11:46:20 -0700 (PDT) From: micron Subject: Fwd: A Better Gas Out (NRR) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk not sure if this already hit the list....but i think it's kind of important. (i apologize if it did and i missed it) i just bought gas in vacaville for $1.29....$0.30 cheaper than almost anywhere in the bay area. they have the means of reducing the prices, they just won't. > > > A Better "Gas-Out" > > > > I'm sure you had heard about the "gas-out" on April 30. Word spread so > fast > > on e-mail that the whole nation knows about it and the media picked up on > > it. However, gas companies weren't scared because they wouldn't lose > sales, > > since everybody was buying gas on April 29 and May 1. So, a Las Vegas > > radio station has come up with a better idea to take things one step > > further. The radio station has suggested to boycott a particular > company, > > and refuse to buy from them until prices get back down to normal. The > radio > > station picked Chevron, so in order to make this work, you need to stop > > buying from Chevron until their prices become normal again. Maybe a > severe > > loss of business will force them to take action in order to drop prices > and > > regain business, which will force changes by the rest of the companies > > across the board to remain competitive. > > > > Sick of paying close to $2 a gallon? This can work, but you have to > > do two things: > > 1. Do not shop at Chevron > > 2. Send this on to everybody you know > > > > The reason Chevron was picked because they were one of 2 companies who > > started this whole thing. Chevron raised its prices because it shut down > > one of its refineries and said that they couldn't keep up with the > demand. > > They used the supply and demand theory. They DEMAND more money because > > they don't have the SUPPLY that its competitors have. > > > > Put those Chevron cards away!!!! > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > __ _ _ __ ____ > > / \ / (_)___ / / __ / _ \ ___ ___ > > / /\ \ / / / __// /__ __/ /_ / /_/ / / _ \/ __/ > > / / \ \/ / / /__/ _/ /_ __/ / /__/ \/ ___/ /__ > > /_/ \__/_/\___/_/\_\ /_/ /_______/\___/\___/ > > > > - psyclops@psyclops.com - - goddess@magicmayhem.com - > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > >:)Amber > > HERE I AM! ----> http://liberty.ispree.net/frosting > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 19:13:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11065 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 19:13:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 10746 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 19:13:46 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 19:13:46 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA02144; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:13:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id TAA04688; Mon, 24 May 1999 19:10:29 GMT From: Mark Carey To: "micron" , "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" Subject: RE: A Better Gas Out (NRR) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 12:19:56 -0700 Message-ID: <001e01bea61a$684fe6e0$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19990524184620.5138.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk San Lorenzo Gas is $1.33/gal for unleaded, at Arco and the independents (off Washington and on Hepserian off A st). Note: The idea of independents having "dirty" gas is a myth perpetuated by the larger Gas companies. Almost all gas in the state of California comes form the same source, so it is the same gas. The only way the gas that might be better for your car is if they have put in an additive (ala Chevron) or the octane is higher. With this in mind SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL INDEPENDENT GAS STATIONS! They're the ones driving down the prices. FIGHT CORPORATE PRICE GOUGING! =) M<>< > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of micron > Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 11:46 AM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Fwd: A Better Gas Out (NRR) > > > i just bought gas in vacaville for $1.29....$0.30 cheaper than almost > anywhere in the bay area. they have the means of reducing the prices, > they just won't. > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 19:25:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17834 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 19:25:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 17561 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 19:25:09 -0000 Received: from web806.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 19:25:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990524192212.7335.rocketmail@web806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web806.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:22:12 PDT Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 12:22:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: 18+ parties, how to regulate? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have a question, All this talk of 18+ parties, any suggestions on how it would be controlled? Should promoters check id at the door of the party and turn kids away that dont have an id? Should records stores check id at the time the ticket is purchased (oh we know those record store peeps would really love that, some bitch about just selling the tickets) How would it be regulated? Just curious, any ideas? Jess Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 19:34:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24330 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 19:34:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 24248 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 19:34:03 -0000 Received: from netcom14.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.126) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 19:34:03 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom14.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id MAA02443; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:33:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 12:33:51 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: that chasm To: E-Bumpers By the Bay Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 1) great post leslie 2) okay folks, i totally agree that the focus needs to be shifted away from the drugs. i konw that down here in SoCal a lot of kiddies get into The Scene because it's a way for them to piss off their parents and be naughty for a weekend... they don't give a crap about what kind of music they hear or how good the decoratoins are or even if they're safe at a location. they just want to disobey their folks and get high. and frankly, that's a sad state for The Scene. so, in response to this and other factors, a number of folks have gone out and found new ways of doing things. like it or not the Rave Scene is a viable profit-making force. many commercial and retail venues are aware of this. this can be used to our advantage, believe it or not. many places that have facilities for large gatherings are more than happy to host private parties (for a price). folks down here are having gatherings at restaraunts, bars, bowling alleys, etc. etc. and are having great success! these are places that have secure parking, clean bathrooms, and even many times food and beverage concessions that are more than happy for our business. sure, the parties might only be able to go to midnight or maybe 2am instead of keeping everyone dreary-eyed and up until the break of dawn. so what? if we get 6 - 8 hours of quality music, does it really matter what time of day it's happening? and you know what? the folks who show up at these places tend to come for the music and for the vibe. it's like these parties have an auto-selection factor to them that weeds out the folks just looking to get high and act naughty. and sometimes it attracts folks who have only known The Scene as a drug-induced cacaphony and shows them that there really is more to it. the bottom line is that there are ways to do this successfully and to keep things running well. we simply needn't be afraid of change. we need to stop resisting. as Shimi Skywalker says, "You can't stop the change." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 19:35:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25664 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 19:35:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 25533 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 19:35:39 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 19:35:39 -0000 Received: from TonicBond@aol.com (3949) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id tNPPa02628; Mon, 24 May 1999 15:33:50 -0400 (EDT) From: TonicBond@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 15:33:50 EDT Subject: Re: kids at parties(was children of the sun...) To: akp2@duke.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk no maritime is now 18 and up with no exceptions From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 19:42:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5029 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 19:41:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 4561 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 19:41:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aspen.sc-intl.com) (207.218.171.40) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 19:41:39 -0000 Received: by ASPEN with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:43:59 -0700 Message-ID: <756B30A53DCBD111BABC00A0C981D4638A4114@ASPEN> From: "Ball, Tera" To: 'Patrick Seaton' , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: 12 Angery Mokeys =D Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 12:43:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey! I had so much fun! I can't believe you were that miserable! people were dancing! It wasn't even that crowded! That party ruled! The music was great the vibe was great and the people were great! the only thing that wasn't so great was the dirt! But oh well what do you do? -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Seaton [mailto:montereypat@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 11:34 AM To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: 12 Angery Mokeys =D A party is a two-way street. The crowd has to put forth some effort to make a party happen. This didn't happen on Saturday. No body was dancing. And if anyone would start. A crazy chain of people would come charging through the mist of the dancers. There was some really good spot to hear the music. Which unfortantly was where the most of people were milling about. I usally don't mind if someone passes me while I'm dancing. But when groups as large as +15 are hitting you from every direction, it getting annoying. Another thing . . . THOSE FUNKING N20 BOTTLES!!!!! If you bring that crap in, bring it back out. Someone could really get hurt with those thing rolling around on the floor. I slipped a few times stepping on them. As for the 12 Monkeys . . . Lighting in the main roon (w/ Dan) was not there. The roaming flood lights going from no light to blinding colors is not my thing. I like a little ambaint soft tone. That way the roaming lights wont be soo harsh. OMG TWO WHOLE DOLLARS FOR WATER just kidding had to say that. Anyhoo, the sound did bleed, if you were way in the back or near a current. If you were too close, the monitors or something took away from the quality too. The good spots for the two main rooms where about 10-20 feet from the decks to about mid way out. Far back and you would loose the high then the bass of the other room would come into play. ANYHOO, I only went to dance and watch Dan spin. And in between being tramped, I did get to dance and I did see Dan. What didn't make it worth the 20 bucks was the poor attiude of the crowd. Next time we ALL should do better, not just the promoter kru. *HUGZ* pat ps: The prono queen was no biggie. Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 19:51:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17632 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 19:51:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 17603 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 19:51:48 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 19:51:48 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com (8026) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLELa01068 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 15:50:42 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 15:50:41 EDT Subject: grrrr work is soo draggin on! NRR To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Netmail sub 2 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OMG! I am sooo strung out right now.. STRESS! ugh. grrr not only do i have deadlines at work *that i am soo far behind on* but the party i'm working on is this FRIDAY! ahhh its scary & exciting at the same time. I just don't want anything to go wrong with it. Its our first one and we've already been faced with a relocating problem which was quickly solved :) thank god, and a drastic reduce in the amount of attendants we can have going from 750 to 350. I just feel like i'm drowning.. and need to vent.. sorry :) <3 amber R _____________________________________________________ STAR*BURST 5*28*99 http://members.aol.com/JUNGurlE/StarBurst.html From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 20:02:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25595 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 20:02:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 25408 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 20:02:28 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 20:02:28 -0000 Received: from WWoodliff@aol.com (14399) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vWFUa06484 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:01:26 -0400 (EDT) From: WWoodliff@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:01:26 EDT Subject: TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE SCENE To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk A lot of discussion has been going on over the past few weeks about how the scene is changing and what exactly is going on within our community. A lot of talk about kids and there parents and what not, so here are my views on the subject and a few questions that I hope will create even more question for some of you. First off about Old School VS. New School. I think the debate could just be ended by saying that they are two completely different scenes. They cannot go back and experience what it was like, no more then I could really know what it was like back in the days of Studio 54. We can try to explain until we are blue in the face but it will not make a difference because they are having there own personal epiphany with what is happening now. The same way we feel about the birth of House Culture they are going to feel about the adolescents of the Rave Culture. What we have to remember is, that it is new to them and what they have to understand is that it is change for us. I went through my own anguish when I saw the rapid transformations that were occurring in the scene Back in about 96 and even dropped out for a while not wanting to deal with what was happening. But the same thing that drew me in to begin with brought me back. At first with a first with a zealousness to show everyone the way it was, but now with the hopes of just sharing some of what was given to me in the beginning. I see these kids out there poring there hart and souls into going out to these parties and remember what it was like back when it was new for me. For those of us who are still around we should try and share our experiences but remember not to condemn theirs, they are on there own journey. Now for the part about parents. If you need to ask your mom for permission to go to a rave then you shouldn't be going period. When I first read this post I thought it was a joke. You can try and tell me how mature you are and how you are wise beyond your years. But wait five years and then you will look back and realize how ignorant you were. And that my friends is what parents are for. I know there are a few out there who are way to overprotective but not letting your 15-16 year old go out to a rave is not being over protective it is just plain smart. I know you all "want" to go but at that age you do not need to be out until the early morning surrounded in an environment like that. There are many things we "want" to do but at 15-16 you "NEED" to be in school. And the ability to chose between what we want and what we need is what is called maturity. Now we get to the part that after a lot of soul searching has become apparent as to what makes me furious about what is going on in the scene today. And it has everything to do with what I talked about above. And that is the shameless promoting at schools by money hungry promoters who pretend to care so much for all of you and then invite these kids to their parties personally. It is wrong there is no other answer. People have said that they should make all parties 18 & up. Unless they make it a prerequisite for getting permits (and I am not for that) it is not going to happen. These promoters need that crowed in order to finance these big budget productions they are evolved with. They have all been here from the beginning they now what goes on at their parties and yet they put flyers into the hands of 12,13,14,15 year old kids, inviting them to come to a party were they are going to be surrounded by drug dealers, drugs, sex, money, staying up for days at a time. Don't get me wrong I am all for all of the above but someone try and hand my 14 year old sister a flyer and get her involved with it at that age and he'll be dead before he hits the floor. Kids at that age don't have a clue as to who they are. They have so many pressures coming from so many other directions it is not fare to expose them to this. I would really like an answer from all of those responsible for this type of shameless promotion. You say you care about the scene, then take responsibility for what goes on at your parties. If it means you have to scale down your production because you won't have the 12-16 year olds to give you your $30 then so be it. It all comes around to what our whole scene was built upon. If we want a global house nation we need to take responsibility for how we introduce this nation to the community, and doing it by exposing our children to it is not just irresponsible it is wrong. Anybody can tell you how old school they are or how much they care about the scene and the people in it but you really need to take a look as to what they are doing. Hold them responsible for what they do. Stop complaining about all these little kids flopping around on the floor at parties and do something about it. It is the promoter who is letting these kids in. Stop supporting him/her when they stop caring about you. Hopefully some of you got this far and will write back with your views on the subject. Hopefully some of the promoters will write back to answer why they are inviting kids to their parties. Much Love JonPaul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 20:05:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28335 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 20:05:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 28317 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 20:05:04 -0000 Received: from pohl.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 20:05:04 -0000 Received: from godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.102.8]) by pohl.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id QAA12609; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:00:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id QAA10935; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:00:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:00:33 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu To: Jess ica cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 18+ parties, how to regulate? In-Reply-To: <19990524192212.7335.rocketmail@web806.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i don't think it's fair to make the record stores deal with the hassel of checking ID. that should be left up to the security at the door. regardless of whether or not the person has a pre-sale ticket, if they don't have proper ID they are not let in. i heard of a 21+ party doing this a while ago. they said on their voicemail that all entrants must be 21 and prove with a valid ID or else they will not enter, regardless of having pre-sales. 18+ events would suk for those who are not of age yet, but in our day of laysuit happy parents and cops out to shut down any party they can get their hands on, it seems like the best choice is to go with 18+. in north carolina, because many parties are thrown in clubs not warehouses, they where mostly 18+. and i know i love houspitality and ekletkic for the reason that they do restrict to only 18 and up, besides the fact that the music at both events is always the best house and jungle you'll find anywhere. i'm not trying to cap on anyone under 18, and i know it wouldn't be fair to those few who are mature and responsible enough to balance a party life, shcool life, work life and home life, but the majority of poeple i see out of control at parties i think are too young to be there. call me old fashioned, considering i didn't start partying until i had already graduated high school, but when i was young i thought i was the shit. i thought i was invincible, but as i grow older i realize i didn't know anything, and i bet in a few years i'll look back on when i was 21 and think "man, was i sure bullheaded then too." much love, amber On Mon, 24 May 1999, Jess ica wrote: > > I have a question, > > All this talk of 18+ parties, any suggestions on how it would be > controlled? Should promoters check id at the door of the party and > turn kids away that dont have an id? Should records stores check id at > the time the ticket is purchased (oh we know those record store peeps > would really love that, some bitch about just selling the tickets) How > would it be regulated? > > Just curious, any ideas? > > Jess > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 20:17:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5195 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 20:17:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 4767 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 20:15:42 -0000 Received: from web806.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 20:15:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990524201237.18712.rocketmail@web806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.99] by web806.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:12:37 PDT Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 13:12:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: that chasm To: unclenoah , E-Bumpers By the Bay MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >we simply needn't be afraid of change. we >need to stop resisting. as Shimi Skywalker says, >"You can't stop the change." Ive been noticing this a lot lately, people who fear change. I feel sorry for them, people from my highschool think im "weird" for changing. People see me and say "gee, youve changed so much" with this disgusted kind of look, all I could say to them is THANK YOU! Accepting change can be a difficult thing for some people, anything different from the norm is scary, and unstable, but thats the only way to learn, and grow, I guess thats why some people become so stagnant in life, they fear change. I think it was the oh so lovely buglady who said it best...change is constant, its the only reliable thing in life. I feel more parties that go from say like 8pm-2am would be a great idea, cuz i know when Ive been smoking all night, and 2am rolls around, my bed sounds awfully nice, and I hate leaving a party right when it is going off! Tanks, Jess Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 20:27:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8516 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 20:27:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 8083 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 20:25:33 -0000 Received: from mailgate.cadence.com (158.140.2.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 20:25:33 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.cadence.com (8.8.5/8.6.8) id NAA21391 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:25:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub2.Cadence.COM(158.140.128.8) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (mjr-v1.2) id xma927577512.021378; Mon, 24 May 99 13:25:12 -0700 Received: from urbanassault.org (d15814038120 [158.140.38.120]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA27116 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3749B5D1.233CD0F9@urbanassault.org> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 13:25:53 -0700 From: Siphon Reply-To: siphon@urbanassault.org Organization: Urban Assault X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: and the chasm widens???? References: <927572143.26310.270@excite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well I guess I'll get my feet wet... I agree in full with Leslie. Stop the blatant substance talk on this public mailing list. Its not the place for this kind of content. I'm sure everyone wants to share their experiences, but this list is not the way to do it. I'm a believer of common sense and it seems that alot of the individuals on this list need to acquire some. As for the young audiences at events - I'm in favor of 18+. I have been thinking alot about the individuals that have been attending events. I can't say "don't come" or "stop taking substances cause your much to young to start your decline of brain cells". But I can express my concern for what I see weekly. It has become a huge dis-pleasure for me to come to events and see very young individuals floored and having no idea whats going on around them. I'm not talking about everyone but the majority are high as a kite! I dj for the love of music and for you. I can't tell you how much I dislike looking up from the tables and seeing 50% of the "dance" floor lying down or just standing there rolling. Its a bit irritating and uninspiring. I'm not sure if other dj's feel this way, but I do. If you want to think of me differently after this post then so be it, but I have to get it off my chest. I have to be real to myself and to you. I just want to somehow express the fact that its really no fun to spin records for a bunch of people rolling all over a dirty floor. Music is supposed to move you. Thats what the event is for. Dancing!!!! So can we lay off the substance or at least be moderate and responsible? Lets get the groove back into the party!!! my .02 Respects, _____________________ S i p h o n Urban Assault [99] info: 408.882.5064 http://www.urbanassault.org From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 20:37:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21290 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 20:37:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 21099 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 20:37:47 -0000 Received: from firstclass.monterey.edu (HELO mail.monterey.edu) (198.189.5.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 20:37:47 -0000 Message-id: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 13:35:49 -0700 Subject: Re(2): and the chasm widens???? To: siphon@urbanassault.org Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu (Robert Delarosa) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk siphon@urbanassault.org writes: >So can we lay off the substance or at least be moderate and >responsible? Lets get the groove back into the party!!! YES! YES! YES! Eloquently said! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 20:41:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26998 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 20:41:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 26757 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 20:41:19 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 20:41:19 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA29001 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 15:40:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca13-85.ix.netcom.com(209.109.238.85) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma028918; Mon May 24 15:39:27 1999 Message-ID: <37482150.B80@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 07:40:02 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: 12-MONKEYS Review.....=) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk WOW!!!WOW!!!and another WOW!!! That had to have been one of the better massives that I've been to. MUSIC- We didn't arrive till 12, so I don't know what I sadly missed prior to that time- But as soon as we walked into 85th and Baldwin the music was soo deep and soo good. Chris Isaac Had a phuken sweet ass set! Next came up DAN!. I have never seen so many people in all my years of partying go sooo crazy over one DJ! The second that he stepped up to the decks there was screaming, whistling and smiles beyond any other. People were literally smashed together, all trying to fit up in the front of the decks, cheering on Dan. And it wasn't an uncomfortable smashing of eachother, pushing and moving, but it was awesome, Everyone was soo HAPPY. Bone also had a fabulous set, along with Onionz. And sad to say, with left about ten minutes into Charles Feel Goods set. The location was really dirty, but Baldwin is always dirty, so that was expected. There were tons of phuked up people, but they were the good kind**hehe....the good and the bad drugies of the scene...*L** Everyone was simply enjoying themselves, not randomly talking to anyone that will listen--Or craked out weirdos trying to rub lotion on you ;() One freak Out moment of the night- >From the opening on the side wall in the main room(where you can sit and get fresh air), I was watching this crazy guy thrash through the street, and the security guys tried to stop him(yet failed). He then thrashed his body into the side of a moving Suburban, and then about 6 security guards finally pinned him down. The cops came, had him handcuffed(i think) on the ground for a really long time, and then an ambulence came...The cops were helping the medics strap the guy in because he wouldn't stop thrashing, and while strapped down he stoped breathing or something, because the next thing you see is CPR action going into effect. And then they took him away. It was said to be known that he was on PCP. Control your drug habbits kids!, This kinda shit is what brings down our scene and is what causes laws*such as in SF* to pass so that permits cannot be established . It also makes the stereotype closer and closer to a reality as each person flips out or OD's. So thats that. The party was sooo Damn good, I didn't want to leave, and I'm still smiling right now. Goodnight Peace Elizabeth From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 20:44:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1023 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 20:44:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 993 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 20:44:14 -0000 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (140.142.33.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 20:44:14 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id NAA12797; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:44:10 -0700 Message-ID: <004601bea626$2a9309c0$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: , , Subject: Re: kids at parties(was children of the sun...) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 13:44:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Wait a minute here, are you talking about concerts at Maritime Hall being 18+?? This has gotta be my favorite place to see live music, and where I spent many a weekend when I was 15, 16, 17, 18... Some of the coolest reggae and hiphop acts come through there, and I would hate to think that other kids would be deprived of the same joy I received from kickin it there. I think that a lot of people lost sight of the fact that people who are just a tiny bit under 18 need to have fun too, because they are of age. I find myself tending to do so even now, and it makes me sick. So please, if anyone has any info on this one-line post (including the author himself), can you let me know? I'm a bit far from SF, (oh, but I'm coming home oh-so-soon!) so I have trouble checking it out myself. Thank you. Peace, Alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- ...the unforgettable prestigious reaches manifested by the northwestern region... -=-Hieroglyphics -----Original Message----- From: TonicBond@aol.com To: akp2@duke.edu ; sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Monday, May 24, 1999 12:44 PM Subject: Re: kids at parties(was children of the sun...) >no maritime is now 18 and up with no exceptions From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 20:54:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8815 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 20:54:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 8801 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 20:54:03 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 20:54:03 -0000 Received: from TonicBond@aol.com (3949) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rUZEa02744; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:47:56 -0400 (EDT) From: TonicBond@aol.com Message-ID: <25b93235.247b14fc@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:47:56 EDT Subject: Re: 18+ parties, how to regulate? To: thatpisces@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/24/99 12:41:24 PM, thatpisces@yahoo.com writes: << Should promoters check id at the door of the party and turn kids away that dont have an id? Should records stores check id at the time the ticket is purchased (oh we know those record store peeps would really love that, some bitch about just selling the tickets) How would it be regulated? >> Thats exactly how you do it... If its an underground... then we card and take tix at the map point... in turn ppl get a UV stamp or what ever... then you can guaranty that there will be no one under age... granted this is a pain in the caboose but if these are the measures we have to take then make it so... I'll work the friggen map point for you and I'll deal with all that sheit if need be... a little bit of sheit never hurt anybody's shoes... :) AME From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 20:54:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9642 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 20:54:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 9497 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 20:54:22 -0000 Received: from mail.lunatic.org (207.171.204.205) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 20:54:22 -0000 Received: (from setje@localhost) by mail.lunatic.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA06885; Mon, 24 May 1999 14:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 14:05:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Jan Setje-Eilers Message-Id: <199905242105.OAA06885@mail.lunatic.org> To: thatpisces@yahoo.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 18+ parties, how To regulate? In-Reply-To: <19990524192212.7335.rocketmail@web806.mail.yahoo.com>) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >All this talk of 18+ parties, any suggestions on how it would be >controlled? Ideally you would not have to. The point is not to keep people who are younger than 18 out to comply with some arbitrary law, but to keep behavior at parties at a more reasonable level. Granted there are curfew laws and even venue/event permits that might stipulate age limitations, but no one is getting shut down because there are 3 17 year olds in the crowd. In other words if people are mature enough to behave themselves in an acceptable fashion [1], and responsible enough not to cause any undue drama, then they are pretty much in compliance with the 18+ limitation regardless of how old they may or may not be. That said, you would obviously have to enforce it in some way to begin with in order to drive the point home. It would probably be sufficient to have it printed on the flyer, presale tickets (if there are any), a clear sign by the door, and then have security ask very young looking folks for ID at the door (this would really not have to be all that rigorous, and could probably drop to random checks after two or three parties). As for folks without id, if you happen upon them, they should probably be turned away, not carrying ID is a really bad idea anyway. The last one could well be up to the bouncer (ie send home the six 14 year olds that are just begging for trouble, but let in the one un-id'able 17 year old who came with two 18+ folks that checked out and stood up for them. If the main goal is to get standards and practices at parties back to "what they once were", then I should point out that it it inherently doomed. When trying to manipulate a social setting, things can really only move forward. There will always be more state than there was the last time around. Obviously people being complete idiots with drugs will stop, as they get thrown in jail, die, supplies dry up and dealers who know what being careful involves are the only ones left. The rave scene may or may not bite it in the process. Though I for one seriously doubt that no one will be dancing or throwing parties in the bay area 10 years from now. What remains is not to become a casualty oneself. -jan [1] I am not going to define that. In principle I try to be open minded, and think that if someone wants to do something at a party, they should be albe to do it, as long as they are not hurting / endangering anyone. More and more however I find myself a little surprised at what I see people (mostly the very high kind) doing and am wondering at what point it will cause me to stay home (I never signed up for an orgy). I don't think I'd feel right actively stopping people from doing things though. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 21:01:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16848 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 21:01:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 16674 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 21:01:27 -0000 Received: from vm4-ext.prodigy.net (207.115.59.137) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 21:01:27 -0000 Received: from prodigy.net (SNFCB210-31.splitrock.net [209.156.149.146]) by vm4-ext.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA254858; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:01:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3749BD44.E019D2FA@prodigy.net> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 13:57:40 -0700 From: JOELANZON Reply-To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Johnathan Flight CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Rave Politics References: <19990524081604.19725.rocketmail@web901.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Nice post, very well thought out, but unfortunately, the politics are going to be there no matter what. Its pretty much best not to even worry about it, unless you're in the business such as DJ/ Promoter, and if you are well then its just all part of the business. Something you have to learn to deal with. You can deal with it negatively, contribute to it, or just shrug it off like I do. Its much to much a headache for me. All I have to say is, if you think the rave politics are bad then you should see the club/radio politics! UGH! -peace- Joe Lanzon Johnathan Flight wrote: > I spent a long time composing this post... > > As always, my opinions are, simply stated, my > opinions. I do not mean to offend anyone. I welcome > comments and discussion. Please don't flame me. > > This started as a reply to a post on this list... i > almost didn't reply to it... but i curiously read to > the end it, and the last bit REALLY struck a nerve. > > If you didn't read the orginal, you might want to read > their post, or at least glance at the bottom of it, > before reading my reply. The original post is > attached at the end. > > RAVE POLITICS > > Folks, lets give up the dj/promoter worship. They're > people too, just like you and me. There is NO big > secret to it. There is no grand piece of > enlightenment they posess. They can not walk on > water, or end droughts, or even allow a small group of > people to survive in the desert for an extended period > of time. > > I mean, all right, fine, you like the music a certain > dj plays. You think he's talented. Great! Buy their > mixtape. > > But do you think that you've got to be some kind of > old-school guru to be able to start buying records? > Or to throw a party? You can be a dj too. You like > techno? Trance? House? Jungle? Hardcore? > Whatever. There are no membership cards you need to > shop at record shops, and listening is free! It just > takes a whole lot of practice, (and of course some > money), and a bit of talent doesn't hurt... > > But why must this unneeded heirarchy be constantly > reinforced? It makes me sick. > > I read all over the place complaints that the > "underground" is elitist, and non accepting of new > ravers. Well, how can one help but being removed from > people who are treating him like he's so fucking cool > yet they don't even know him? Of course they are > going to think you're silly! (even if they don't tell > you so!) > > As for those who promote the heirarchy from the other > side, the "old schoolers" who think that they've got > enough friends and just don't need any new ones, i've > got a word about that too... > > I think that it's one of the REALLY lame things about > the scene today is people getting all "old-schooled", > with delisions that things were different in the "good > old days", thinking that they know something that all > the less experienced ravers dont. > > What's so fuckin difficult about dancing in a group of > people to some good music with a grin on your face? > Why does that need memberhship into some special club? > > And if you do feel like you don't need to meet any new > people, then why do so many of you spend so much > effort working on parties? So that you can wear that > "staff badge", and parade around the party like you're > someone important... Or stand at the door or sell > water or whatever, just so that you can feel like you > are part of the "inner circle" If you don't get that > feeling from just being on the dance floor, there's > either something wrong with the parties you're > choosing, or there's something wrong with your > attitude. > > my point: > > Rave politics are a load of shit. People who think > that being involved in the scene makes them some > person of great importance and high status are missing > the point. And people who treat them like they are of > some high status are being sold something shallow. > (and they are sadly paying willingly, not knowing > anything better) > > But more and more people are discovering this, and the > "underground" is growning again. Not in the size of > the parties necesarily, but there are a whole lot more > people throwing free outdoor parties today then there > ever were. More people are spinning records, and more > people are discovering the true spirit of what it > really can be. > > the first time you see a dance floor covered with > people moving every which way... and hear the music > rippling through your body, beat by beat, and start to > move in your own space... everyone in their own > space... but all together... all individuals, but > unified through ritual, like individual stars coming > together to compose the grandeur magnificence of the > moonless twilight... when you reach that euphoira, > that place, that higher state of consciousness, just > by being a part of this ancient shamanistic ritual... > when raving becomes almost a religious experience... > then, you will realize that it really doesn't matter > who's wearing the fuckin laminates. > > As people with experience and knowledge of the > technical and logistical details of throwing raves, we > should be open armed towards new people with fresh > energy and ideas, and support their efforts. > > We should be teachers, leading by example. We should > not behave like egotists, scoffing in arrogance. > > How are people going to discover the true spirit of > raving unless they've experienced it? > > Hows this for an idea: The adopt a raver program. > This is a damn good idea i think. I think that people > who have been around in the scene for a few years and > know the underground community should take a younger > raver who only knows 2nd & jax and take them out for a > night. It could be alot of fun. Meet people, get > aquainted, make new friends, learn something too. > People who want to do this should email me, and if > there's alot of interest, maybe i'll organize > something. Shit, i'll take you to a party if you > want. Email me. > > Thanks for patiently reading my opinions. Hope > everyone had a nice weekend. > > =) > > --jf > > --- FREQ MAGNET wrote: > > *lol! someone sent this to me! i don't know if you > > guys have seen it yet, but it cracks me the hell up! > > hehe. (sorry if i'm a little anti-social > > sometimes, as a "junglist") lol. i'm still a > > newbie, but i guess i graduated early!* > > love & rage, > > catrina > > > > > > How to maintain the essential level of drama > > required to be a true scenester. > > > > Here are the grades: > > > > Grade 1 - INSTA-RAVER > > > > Less than three months in the scene. You still don't > > know what all the fuss over vicks is about. You > > love all the music, especially cheesy trance. You > > have not yet figured out why others fuss incessantly > > over someone who just plays a couple of records. > > You have one pair of fat pants and you're trying to > > figure out how not to trash the cuffs. You gladly > > pay to get into parties and always take candy to > > give to people because that's what you've heard > > you're supposed to do. You make comments like > > "everyone is just so friendly here". > > > > > > Grade 2 - RAVER IN TRAINING > > > > Three to six months in the scene. You go to parties > > to dance and will do so most of the night. You > > still like most of the music but usually go to take > > a break when they play jungle. You're still buying > > music at hastings but you've given your copy of > > "rave til dawn" to a friend. You've tried E but > > haven't quite figured out what's so great about it. > > You walked into > > platinum one day to look but were intimidated by the > > fact that you didn't know any of the artists names, > > not to mention the high level of testosterone. > > You've become somewhat annoyed at the high cost of > > parties > > and are wondering why some of your new friends > > always get in for free. > > > > Grade 3 - RAVER CADET > > > > Six months to one year in the scene. You still like > > to dance, but only when they play good house or > > trance, unless, that is, your friend who you met a > > couple of parties ago is playing in which case you > > will dance to whatever style they're playing. Your > > confusion regarding the magic of just playing a > > couple of records starts to fade into blind worship > > as you constantly hear the phrase "DJ" discussed in > > a god-like context. You receive no less than ten to > > twenty hugs when you walk into most parties from all > > of your good friends you've met in the last couple > > of months. You have learned not to eat a big meal > > before going to a party and have found enough people > > willing to rub you that E now has a bit more magic > > than it did at first. You're not so much into the > > candy anymore but you always seem to have vicks, > > masks and for some reason a pair of scissors at > > every party. You have stopped purchasing CDs at > > hastings and prefer mix tapes, either given to you > > from friends, or, purchased from the right record > > stores. You have figured out that if you show up a > > couple of hours early to a party not only do you get > > to smoke pot with other RAVER CADETS but you get in > > free cause you put stuff up on the wall. Your basic > > training is now complete. At this point you may > > take one of the RAVER paths > > > > 1: BASIC RAVER > > The basic raver just contines exploring what's > > already been learned. The BASIC RAVER overcomes > > record store anxiety enough to start purchasing at > > least a couple of records and manages to find an old > > turntable at the > > goodwill. > > > > 2: JUNGLIST > > The junglist is a special type of raver. Known as > > slight outcasts they eschew all other types of music > > and can be heard muttering phrases like "Jungle is > > the shit". Characteristics include anti-social > > behaviour and limited rhythmic ability. > > > > 3: CANDY KID > > The candy kid loves to love. Those that see hugs as > > another party drug gravitate to this path. Usually > > confused by the other raver types, well, usually > > just confused. > > > > Each of these have their own unique qualities and > > whichever route you choose you will be taking > > advantage of the full on RAVER status. After an > > additional year in the scene in one of the above > > categories you can either stabalize your raver > > training as you graduate to SCENSTER -or- you can > > take one of the advanced paths > > 1: DJ > > 2: PROMOTER > > > > Discussing the details of these training paths is > > beyond the scope of this article, and well, it's > > just not done, discussing the secrets of DJing or > > PROMOTING in public that is. Only > > SCENESTERs/DJs/PROMOTERs are allowed to know the > > inner workings of the scene. There is no > > shortcutting this, you must go through the steps and > > it is no shame to be an INSTA-RAVA, just don't try > > to pretend your more than that and you won't bring > > on the wrath of those who have gone before you. > > > > Much peace and love my fellow ravers and ravers in > > training and remember, when you can snatch the candy > > bracelet from my hand you will know the path that is > > right for you. > > > > > > > > > > > > HotBot - Search smarter. > > http://www.hotbot.com > > > > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 21:03:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18645 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 21:03:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 18605 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 21:03:03 -0000 Received: from jmail.co.jp (HELO calvin.iac.co.jp) (209.85.120.230) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 21:03:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 1919 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 21:03:15 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO jmail.co.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 May 1999 21:03:15 -0000 From: "ProtoTypical Chris" Reply-to: prototype@raveaddict.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 14:03:15 GST -1080 Subject: Re: orgin Message-id: <3749be93.77d.0@jmail.co.jp> X-User-Info: 171.133.216.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >ok, >so who's going to orgin and is it gonna be any good? i know everyone has >their opinions on 2nd and Jackson, but regardless of that will it be a >good party? i've never been to a nomad party before, so i'm kind of in the >dark here. someone turn on the light for me. >-alex > I know _I'M_ going to Origin. Yeah, it's at 2nd & Jax, but there's a lot of parties this weekend, so it probably won't be as crowded as usual. Besides, the lineup kicks ass. -=ProtoTypical Chris=- >><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><><><><><><><><><><> Like my COOL email address? Get one like it FREE at http://www.MUSICOSM.com ! Visit today! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 21:04:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20174 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 21:04:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 20149 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 21:04:20 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd92.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.156) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 21:04:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 26431 invoked by uid 0); 24 May 1999 21:03:54 -0000 Message-ID: <19990524210354.26430.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 204.160.32.13 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 24 May 1999 14:03:53 PDT X-Originating-IP: [204.160.32.13] From: "Eric Vandenbroek" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Concerns about the scene... Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 14:03:53 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have been reading the recent posts about the scene in general. And yes I as well agree that parties should now be 18+ It scares me to see most of these under 18 people showing up to parties with usually one thing in mind. Is it the music....no. Is it the vibe....recently the vibe doesn't exist. Is it the "party favors" running all over the place.....yep that would be it. This is not everyone that is under 18, but the majority yes. I remember when I went to my first party. The only reson I was going was to hear actual techno being spun. I was listening to techno 5 years before going to any parties. I was soo in love with all types of techno it was all I was listening too. I knew about the "rave" scene 4 years before I went to my first party, and why did I wait those 4 years. Dunno, all I do know is this, if I would of started partying in H.S or even worse Junior High, I wouldn't of graduted, probably been thrown out of my parents house, ect.... Now think would anyone's parents really approve of their childern going to an all night party. I sure hope not, well there are some exceptions. For example, your parents are there, and another example, you tell them EVERYTHING that actually goes on at a party. Other than those 2 cases I don't think that anyone under the age of 18 should be at a party. Just my input, Me From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 21:04:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20843 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 21:04:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 20698 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 21:04:33 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 21:04:33 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA03729 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:04:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca13-85.ix.netcom.com(209.109.238.85) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma003636; Mon May 24 16:03:42 1999 Message-ID: <3749CE12.2BF0@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 14:09:24 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: KRR:[Fwd: We Got The Funk and STOLEN BAG!!] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk MacBunny wrote: > on another note: my friend's bag got stolen!!!! Alright, I think at about every other party that I go to, I hear about someones bag being stolen. I have never once had my shit stolen, because I take care of my stuff. This doesn't mean that you have to hold it while your dancing, but atleast set it down in front of you or soemwhere that you can see it while dancing. Especially if there's valuables within it- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 21:08:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24360 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 21:08:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 24349 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 21:08:11 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 21:08:11 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (14459) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vYWJa02575 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:07:29 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:07:29 EDT Subject: Re: 18+ parties, how To regulate? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Im sorry everyone, Im going to open my big mouth here. I know Ill get flamed but I feel strongly about this. No one under 18 is mature enough to be at parties where there are drugs period. Simply because they havent experienced enough life to understand what thier responsiblities are. No matter how mature one believes him/herself to be. And I dont promote all age parties for this reason. Im not saying there isnt a way to promote parties for the younger crowd. But Ive yet to see it done responsibly. I applaud promoters who take measures to provide a safe haven for the younger crowd but I just see how its possible. Well thats my foot in my mouth. Everyone have a wonderful day. Peace, M Groove On From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 21:20:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2211 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 21:20:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 2202 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 21:20:18 -0000 Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (HELO MIT.EDU) (18.69.0.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 21:20:18 -0000 Received: from GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA20783; Mon, 24 May 99 17:20:24 EDT Received: from melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.69.0.45]) by grand-central-station.MIT.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA19907; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:20:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zeos (209-239-210-186.oak.jps.net [209.239.210.186]) by melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id RAA19671; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:19:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990524141505.010c2320@po8.mit.edu> X-Sender: benchun@po8.mit.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 14:17:44 -0700 To: "CARLOS SOTO" , siphon@urbanassault.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com From: b e n c h u n Subject: Re: Facs and Dylan... In-Reply-To: <19990521175751.3558.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 07:57 AM 5/21/1999 , CARLOS SOTO wrote: >i've posted a message to bitch, but... the promoters brought me in to supply >more bass for the night, and these two djs were riding the levels so hard >with gain that the signal they were sending was severely distorted. Please >Djs learn what a proper signal looks like! >look at all the blinking lights, they actually mean something! I end up >bitching at a lot of djs, and i all i want is for the music to sound its >best, so please djs: realize you are the captain of a sound system. learn >to use it correctly! ok. im done ranting. i know that when i'm DJing, a lot of times i've got my mind on lots of aspects of the mix and the selection and sometimes i neglect the levels and they creep up. i've found that it's really helpful to have a friend just watch the levels for you and if you start to peg the mixer they just turn it down a little. it actually sounds louder if it's clean. of course, the best DJs would be handling that all without thinking about it, but for me it helps to have a little help. then i can focus on the mixing. btw, you should listen to carlos! he knows how to make a system sound good... . . . . . . . benchun@mit.edu http://mdma.mit.edu/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 21:27:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6524 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 21:27:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 6472 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 21:27:02 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 21:27:02 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com (14367) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vFPSa29725; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:26:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: <6fe06c48.247b1df8@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:26:16 EDT Subject: Re: 18+ parties, how To regulate? To: BigM009@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That is QUITE the HARSH stereotype. In a message dated 5/24/99 2:08:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, BigM009@aol.com writes: << No one under 18 is mature enough to be at parties where there are drugs period. Simply because they havent experienced enough life to understand what thier responsiblities are. No matter how mature one believes him/herself to be. And I dont promote all age parties for this reason. Im not saying there isnt a way to promote parties for the younger crowd. But Ive yet to see it done responsibly. I applaud promoters who take measures to provide a safe haven for the younger crowd but I just see how its possible. >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 21:31:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12550 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 21:31:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 12416 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 21:31:26 -0000 Received: from post.post.net (HELO post.net) (209.249.41.58) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 21:31:26 -0000 Received: from 911-casey.prophet.com ([208.196.4.141]) by post.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA21080 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:25:16 -0700 Received: from 911-casey.prophet.com ([208.196.4.141]) by post.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA21080 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:25:16 -0700 Message-Id: <4.1.19990524143155.00943880@prophet-indy.prophet.com> X-Sender: sean@post.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 14:32:19 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Sean Casey Subject: NRR: Looking for some apache site planning help Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I just recently started working for 911gifts.com, an online retailer (and very very cool people). We need some consulting type help for our site. Can anyone suggest an apache guru who can help us tune our configuration, and who might look at our stuff and give specific recommendations for a mod_perl transition? Sean From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 21:36:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16287 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 21:36:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 16270 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 21:36:21 -0000 Received: from web204.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.104) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 21:36:21 -0000 Message-ID: <19990524213844.26278.rocketmail@web204.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.241.29.1] by web204.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 24 May 1999 14:38:44 PDT Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 14:38:44 -0700 (PDT) From: C H E P Reply-To: chep_plur@yahoo.com Subject: Lots of Bad Reviews for 12 monkeys, here's one To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm sorry to say it, but I also did not enjoy the event. I actually left hella early. It was a PHAT venue, but the vibe was just not there. I know you have to create one and I tried, I really really tried, but it just matter what I did to enjoy myself. I kept on walking from one room to the other just trying to pickup a good vibe, no spiritual music too be found. Hopefully, next time they will have some variety of music. I kept on walking back and forth, from the little trance room to both house rooms, and just couldn't pick up the vibe and left. Sorry if I didn't have fun, but I will give the 12 monkeys another chance. Thats all I have to say. Chep === In case I don't see you...... good afternoon.... good evening.... good night.... chep_plur@yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 22:02:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29648 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 22:02:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 29543 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 22:02:33 -0000 Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.123) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 22:02:33 -0000 Received: from [209.179.159.120] (pool375-cvx.ds55-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.159.120]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02603 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 15:02:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: radley@mail.elemental.nu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 15:03:36 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Radley Marx Subject: 18+ parties, how to regulate? Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 12:22:12 -0700 (PDT) >From: Jess ica >Subject: 18+ parties, how to regulate? >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org >Precedence: bulk > >I have a question, > >All this talk of 18+ parties, any suggestions on how it would be >controlled? Should promoters check id at the door of the party and >turn kids away that dont have an id? Should records stores check id at >the time the ticket is purchased (oh we know those record store peeps >would really love that, some bitch about just selling the tickets) How >would it be regulated? > >Just curious, any ideas? > Put "18+ enforced" on the flyer & check IDs at the door. Simple. -r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 22:02:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 273 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 22:02:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 29841 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 22:02:42 -0000 Received: from web134.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.221) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 22:02:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990524220320.25178.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web134.yahoomail.com; Mon, 24 May 1999 15:03:20 PDT Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 15:03:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: 12-MONKEYS Review.....=) To: Elizabeth Traver , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --- Elizabeth Traver wrote: > People were literally > smashed together, all trying to fit up in the front > of the decks, > cheering on Dan. And it wasn't an uncomfortable > smashing of eachother, > pushing and moving, but it was awesome, Everyone > was soo HAPPY. I'll agree on this one. I some how made it to the front of the pack. Being small has it's pluses. ;) Anyhoo, everyone was smooshed up to each other, but if anyone wanted a carmera shot they were let through. I like to see that. There was even one girl who bursted out, "I CAN'T SEE!" everyone turned around then looked down =Þ there she was standing only about 5 foot (Maybe) Everyone made room for her to go to the front, but then she just wandered off. There was a few E-Babies there in the front doing that body rubbing dance with each other. They pushed me back into a pole. It was jabbing me in the ribs and they wouldn't stop pushing. I was glad when they wandered off. That thing hurt! > Everyone was simply enjoying themselves, not > randomly talking to anyone > that will listen I personally like these peeps, they make the 30 min wait in the restroom line go by much faster. =D *HUGZ* pat From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 22:06:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4004 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 22:06:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 3976 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 22:06:51 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 22:06:51 -0000 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.9.3/8.8.4) id PAA23386; Mon, 24 May 1999 15:06:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199905242206.PAA23386@atari.saturn5.com> Subject: Re: Lots of Bad Reviews for 12 monkeys, here's one To: chep_plur@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 15:06:49 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <19990524213844.26278.rocketmail@web204.mail.yahoo.com> from "C H E P" at May 24, 99 02:38:44 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > venue, but the vibe was just not there. I know you > have to create one and I tried, I really really tried, Kind of hard to create vibe when you have ex-con gangstas ripping off teenage girls in sour e-deals... and PCP freakouts requiring a team of cops and paramedics and security to restrain. Remember kids: there are plenty of people out there trying to take advantage of the "good vibes" of the rave scene. Plenty. Whee! -troy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks "I just don't have the discipline to be a hippie" <- Homer J. Simpson From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 22:09:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5202 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 22:09:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 5188 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 22:09:18 -0000 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (140.142.33.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 22:09:18 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id PAA21083; Mon, 24 May 1999 15:09:15 -0700 Message-ID: <00a101bea632$0da5d520$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: "Elizabeth Traver" , Subject: Re: KRR:[Fwd: We Got The Funk and STOLEN BAG!!] Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 15:09:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I find I can dance fairly comfortably in a regular overtheshoulder bag, but even then I don't put any valuables in it... I know that some people can't travel without lots of stuff (from an admitted over packer!) so safety is the key: check out bags you can dance in while wearing, name a designated bag watcher, etc. I have only gotten one thing stolen (a jacket at HomeBase) and that was the last time I left my stuff unattended. I have to add that there are a lot of parties where if is safe to leave your stuff lying about, and these are the parties I prefer. But if you want to hit up a sketchfest, good luck! And I hope that MacBunny's friend finds her shite... Peace Alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- ...the unforgettable prestigious reaches manifested by the northwestern region... -=-Hieroglyphics -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Traver To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Monday, May 24, 1999 2:04 PM Subject: KRR:[Fwd: We Got The Funk and STOLEN BAG!!] >MacBunny wrote: > >> on another note: my friend's bag got stolen!!!! > >Alright, I think at about every other party that I go to, I hear about >someones bag being stolen. I have never once had my shit stolen, because >I take care of my stuff. >This doesn't mean that you have to hold it while your dancing, but >atleast set it down in front of you or soemwhere that you can see it >while dancing. Especially if there's valuables within it- > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 22:18:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13345 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 22:18:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 13228 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 22:18:21 -0000 Received: from web801.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.61) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 22:18:21 -0000 Message-ID: <19990524222212.14991.rocketmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web801.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 24 May 1999 15:22:12 PDT Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 15:22:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Solution: Fanny sax Re: KRR:[Fwd: We Got The Funk and STOLEN BAG!!] To: Queen of Scots , Elizabeth Traver , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think we should bring back the fanny sacks that we all used to wear (no denying it!) I would sport it, just throw keys, cigs, anything you need to bring to a rave could fit in it. and it stays with at all time, and shouldnt be too uncomfortable to dance with. I mean, people are sportin teletubbie backpacks, a fanny sack couldnt be much worse :) yeah, yeah jB --- Queen of Scots wrote: > I find I can dance fairly comfortably in a regular > overtheshoulder bag, but > even then I don't put any valuables in it... I know > that some people can't > travel without lots of stuff (from an admitted over > packer!) so safety is > the key: check out bags you can dance in while > wearing, name a designated > bag watcher, etc. I have only gotten one thing > stolen (a jacket at HomeBase) > and that was the last time I left my stuff > unattended. > > I have to add that there are a lot of parties where > if is safe to leave your > stuff lying about, and these are the parties I > prefer. But if you want to > hit up a sketchfest, good luck! > > And I hope that MacBunny's friend finds her shite... > > Peace > Alexis > > > Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm > -------------------------------------------- > ...the unforgettable prestigious reaches > manifested by the northwestern region... > -=-Hieroglyphics > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elizabeth Traver > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Monday, May 24, 1999 2:04 PM > Subject: KRR:[Fwd: We Got The Funk and STOLEN BAG!!] > > > >MacBunny wrote: > > > >> on another note: my friend's bag got stolen!!!! > > > >Alright, I think at about every other party that I > go to, I hear about > >someones bag being stolen. I have never once had my > shit stolen, because > >I take care of my stuff. > >This doesn't mean that you have to hold it while > your dancing, but > >atleast set it down in front of you or soemwhere > that you can see it > >while dancing. Especially if there's valuables > within it- > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 22:25:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20684 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 22:25:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 20575 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 22:25:28 -0000 Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.123) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 22:25:28 -0000 Received: from [209.179.159.120] (pool375-cvx.ds55-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.159.120]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14306 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 15:25:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: radley@mail.elemental.nu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 15:26:30 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Radley Marx Subject: re: TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE SCENE Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > First off about Old School VS. New School. I think the debate could >just be ended by saying that they are two completely different scenes. They >cannot go back and experience what it was like, no more then I could really >know what it was like back in the days of Studio 54. We can try to explain >until we are blue in the face but it will not make a difference because they >are having there own personal epiphany with what is happening now. The same >way we feel about the birth of House Culture they are going to feel about the >adolescents of the Rave Culture. What we have to remember is, that it is new >to them and what they have to understand is that it is change for us. > I went through my own anguish when I saw the rapid transformations >that were occurring in the scene Back in about 96 and even dropped out for a >while not wanting to deal with what was happening. But the same thing that >drew me in to begin with brought me back. At first with a first with a >zealousness to show everyone the way it was, but now with the hopes of just >sharing some of what was given to me in the beginning. I see these kids out >there poring there hart and souls into going out to these parties and >remember what it was like back when it was new for me. For those of us who >are still around we should try and share our experiences but remember not to >condemn theirs, they are on there own journey. On the contrary. It is very easy to incorporate old school & new school, as long as the production team consists of both. New School has the dream, optimism, and energy. Old School has the experience, foundation, and wisdom. The trick is putting the two together so that they work in symbiosis. -radley From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 22:29:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24285 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 22:29:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 24256 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 22:29:19 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 22:29:19 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-164.dsp.com [204.118.76.164]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA00943 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 15:29:16 -0700 Message-Id: <4.1.19990524152512.009c8810@wgdsearch.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 15:27:03 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: totally NRR - Fwd: for sale Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey Kids, I'm forwarding this for a friend. Sorry if this is totally inappropriate, but I figured this might be of use to somone here: >Great free-lance graphic design starter!! $600.00 includes: >Macintosh 6115 >13in. color monitor >40 megs of ram >Apple 2400 color inkjet >loaded with software (Photoshop with tons of plugins, Illustrator, >quark, after effects, bryce, form z, electric image, word... and many >more) >just 600 bucks. if interested, email belly8k@hotmail.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 22:30:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26629 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 22:30:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 26599 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 22:30:31 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?WjWBbW1TU+IXVo1zDwBxFTLv63wESTza?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 22:30:31 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id PAA27238 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 15:30:30 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 15:30:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: 12 Monkeys reply to Troy Sheets In-Reply-To: <199905242206.PAA23386@atari.saturn5.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 24 May 1999, Troy Sheets wrote: > > Remember kids: there are plenty of people out there trying to take > advantage of the "good vibes" of the rave scene. Plenty. THE QUESTION IS....HOW CAN WE EXPLOIT THESE PEOPLE. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 22:31:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29168 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 22:31:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 28963 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 22:31:49 -0000 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (140.142.32.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 22:31:49 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id PAA19199; Mon, 24 May 1999 15:31:46 -0700 Message-ID: <001b01bea635$32d749c0$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: "Jess ica" , "Elizabeth Traver" , Subject: Re: Solution: Fanny sax Re: KRR:[Fwd: We Got The Funk and STOLEN BAG!!] Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 15:31:42 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk bring em back? i think they are already! all i see are trendy 'utility gear' type sacs, some of them are more designed to look utility, so check carefully, but they are out there! would the real trick be to combine them with teletubbie shtuff? hmm... on second thought, this could get out of hand... peace alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- ...the unforgettable prestigious reaches manifested by the northwestern region... -=-Hieroglyphics -----Original Message----- From: Jess ica To: Queen of Scots ; Elizabeth Traver ; sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Monday, May 24, 1999 3:18 PM Subject: Solution: Fanny sax Re: KRR:[Fwd: We Got The Funk and STOLEN BAG!!] > >I think we should bring back the fanny sacks that we all used to wear >(no denying it!) I would sport it, just throw keys, cigs, anything you >need to bring to a rave could fit in it. and it stays with at all time, >and shouldnt be too uncomfortable to dance with. I mean, people are >sportin teletubbie backpacks, a fanny sack couldnt be much worse :) > >yeah, yeah > >jB >--- Queen of Scots wrote: >> I find I can dance fairly comfortably in a regular >> overtheshoulder bag, but >> even then I don't put any valuables in it... I know >> that some people can't >> travel without lots of stuff (from an admitted over >> packer!) so safety is >> the key: check out bags you can dance in while >> wearing, name a designated >> bag watcher, etc. I have only gotten one thing >> stolen (a jacket at HomeBase) >> and that was the last time I left my stuff >> unattended. >> >> I have to add that there are a lot of parties where >> if is safe to leave your >> stuff lying about, and these are the parties I >> prefer. But if you want to >> hit up a sketchfest, good luck! >> >> And I hope that MacBunny's friend finds her shite... >> >> Peace >> Alexis >> >> >> Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm >> -------------------------------------------- >> ...the unforgettable prestigious reaches >> manifested by the northwestern region... >> -=-Hieroglyphics >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Elizabeth Traver >> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >> Date: Monday, May 24, 1999 2:04 PM >> Subject: KRR:[Fwd: We Got The Funk and STOLEN BAG!!] >> >> >> >MacBunny wrote: >> > >> >> on another note: my friend's bag got stolen!!!! >> > >> >Alright, I think at about every other party that I >> go to, I hear about >> >someones bag being stolen. I have never once had my >> shit stolen, because >> >I take care of my stuff. >> >This doesn't mean that you have to hold it while >> your dancing, but >> >atleast set it down in front of you or soemwhere >> that you can see it >> >while dancing. Especially if there's valuables >> within it- >> > >> >> > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 22:45:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6284 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 22:45:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 6050 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 22:45:06 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 22:45:06 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EBEVVMMX; Mon, 24 May 1999 18:44:30 EDT To: diogenes@visi.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 15:31:56 -0700 Subject: Re: orgin Message-ID: <19990524.154848.-113441.0.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 4-19 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk NO, hell no this will not be a good party. I learned that origin sucked new years. Just trust me, nevermind whoever they've got spinning, this party will suck. If you like house, there's a full moon, if you like trance, man in the moon, but fuck Origin, and Metropolis for that matter. Save your money and your time. Peace, Theresa On Mon, 24 May 1999 00:02:59 -0500 Alex writes: >ok, >so who's going to orgin and is it gonna be any good? i know everyone >has >their opinions on 2nd and Jackson, but regardless of that will it be >a >good party? i've never been to a nomad party before, so i'm kind of in >the >dark here. someone turn on the light for me. >-alex > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 22:45:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6449 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 22:45:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 6325 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 22:45:15 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 22:45:15 -0000 Received: from Abbo1234@aol.com (14409) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vITOa11104 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 18:44:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Abbo1234@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 18:44:16 EDT Subject: Re: kids at parties(was children of the sun...) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/24/99 9:34:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, poeie@hotmail.com writes: << if i suggest that all parties be 18+ to solve the problem of parents looking for their kids, am i being too harsh? >> I think that this is way to harsh, it is punishing those of us who are under 18 and mature enough to handle going to a rave. Abby From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 22:46:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7943 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 22:46:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 7921 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 22:46:23 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 22:46:23 -0000 Received: from TonicBond@aol.com (2614) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vGJNa02602; Mon, 24 May 1999 18:45:11 -0400 (EDT) From: TonicBond@aol.com Message-ID: <27914a72.247b3075@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 18:45:09 EDT Subject: Re: 18+ parties, how To regulate? To: Space201@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk << I'm sorry that you fall in to the stereotype but it needs to be said and we know that its not everyone thats fucking up but most are. >> that made absolutely no sense. please clarify Ok pens and pencils ready... I'm sorry that you fall in to the stereotype of the under 18 drugged out immature wannabe ravers,(what moo said,)it needs to be said. I understand that doesn't mean that you are one of them, and we know that its not everyone thats fucking up. now unfortunately although you may have your whits about you, most are,and do. There for we get sick of cleaning up after the od or the parents come or the drama that appears of your age 9 times out of ten brings in to a party. this is all said with love From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 22:47:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8917 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 22:47:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 8903 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 22:47:48 -0000 Received: from web103.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 22:47:48 -0000 Message-ID: <19990524224810.15142.rocketmail@web103.yahoomail.com> Received: from [198.70.109.3] by web103.yahoomail.com; Mon, 24 May 1999 15:48:10 PDT Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 15:48:10 -0700 (PDT) From: adam Subject: NRR: color flyer printing/prices To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Can anyone give me some information on local outfits that print rave type color fliers? I'm throwing a small party for which i've created double sided full color postcard size flyers and i need to have around 100 printed. The files are in Photoshop format (CMYK). Any tips/recommendations or pricing information would be appreciated. Email me privately if possible. Peace, -adam From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 22:56:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14462 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 22:56:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 14446 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 22:56:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 22:56:14 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 231 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 15:53:53 -0700 Message-ID: <3749D947.2C1E6744@hrg.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 15:57:11 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFraves peeps Subject: Mixtape/cd reviews Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok, Ive got 2 tape/cds to review this week. The first is Justin Hale's new one, For The Love Of Music, the second is Eric Spire's Transitions. Both of these are fat, and come highly recommended. First off...For The Love of Music. This one was recorded live at the Refinery on April 4th. Very nice tape, progressive edged disco house kinda stuff. Really good flyin down the freeway music, or goin balls out at 2am to a big system. Nice energetic feel to it, with good flow, taking you on a well rounded tour of the house spectrum. Good stuff. Next...Transitions. Very nice deep house kinda cd on three decks. Excellent mixing and eqing. The eqing really popped out at me listening to this, the levels are perfect all the way through. The whole set is put together very well, basically a long subtle build, starting with some very deep tribal, and slowly working its way up, gaining momentum the whole time. Very nice tour of thinking mans house. Excellent cd. Overall 2 great sets by 2 talented djs. Both will be in my main tape/cd listening rotation for along time. Check em out. john r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 23:08:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22607 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 23:08:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 22576 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 23:08:23 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd118.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.182) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 23:08:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 16479 invoked by uid 0); 24 May 1999 23:07:56 -0000 Message-ID: <19990524230756.16478.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 153.37.195.10 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:07:56 PDT X-Originating-IP: [153.37.195.10] From: "dj _haK" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: you're killing the rave scene Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:07:56 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk what's wrong with the scene? after reading the post about 'children of the sun'; i feel sick to my stomach. all the so called 'underground' rave parties are just a facade for mad drug orgies with 12-16 year old kids as the main clients! that is so phucked up beyond belief. do any of you promoters have any shame? or is the dollar stronger than a 15yr olds life? when some 14 yr old dies from an OD, you can bet '20/20' or 'dateline' or any of the media will through a negative slant on the scene and we'll all lose out. no one; save the parents, can make the choice for anyone under 18 legally. hell anyone under 18 can't even go to an 'R' movie. the line is crossed, promoters need to make parties 18 over; end of story. otherwise the rave scene is dead. hak From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 23:12:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24276 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 23:11:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 24265 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 23:11:55 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 23:11:55 -0000 Received: from TonicBond@aol.com (2614) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vMAVa02691; Mon, 24 May 1999 19:10:17 -0400 (EDT) From: TonicBond@aol.com Message-ID: <32e81797.247b365e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:10:22 EDT Subject: Re: kids at parties(was children of the sun...) To: Abbo1234@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/24/99 3:45:43 PM, Abbo1234@aol.com writes: I think that this is way to harsh, it is punishing those of us who are under 18 and mature enough to handle going to a rave. Abby >> if you think so then ask your parents to get involved ... do you feel comfortable with that? If not than you see the point were trying to make or at least the one I am... if your under 18 and I'm stereo typing you I'm sorry but please bring a permission slip to the next rave you attend THANK YOU From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 23:23:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1498 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 23:23:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 1329 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 23:23:41 -0000 Received: from corpmail1.jps.net (209.63.224.250) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 23:23:41 -0000 Received: from kickass (209-239-201-77.oak.jps.net [209.239.201.77]) by corpmail1.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA26506; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:21:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <018401bea63c$bad5e0a0$77019665@cuhelp.com> From: "Jay" To: , , References: <27914a72.247b3075@aol.com> Subject: Re: 18+ parties, how To regulate? (WTF?!?!) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:25:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't that unfortunate soul who fell off a ravine at that desert party... over 18 ? In fact, I do seem to remember that many of the fatalities were cursed to 18+'ers. That being said, what is your point ? Are you saying that 17- people should be excluded from their own scene? Do you suggest segregation of the ages ? That is complete and utter bullshit. I just turned 21 last year, and I totally know how it felt to _NOT_ be allowed into one of the best clubs in the country (1015)... that was a terrible feeling. If you were under 18 and someone posted what you just did, I am most positive that you would NOT agree. It's people like you, who place the stereotypes, who cause the hurt and separation in our scene. People do not need to be segregated at all, for any reason. You might as well say that only white people can attend, because only they can behave themselves... or only Catholics may attend, because they know self-control and no one else does. BULLSHIT! All of that, was said with love... Love & Music, -Jay > I'm sorry that you fall in to the stereotype of the under 18 drugged out > immature wannabe ravers,(what moo said,)it needs to be said. I understand > that doesn't mean that you are one of them, and we know that its not everyone > thats fucking up. now unfortunately although you may have your whits about > you, most are,and do. There for we get sick of cleaning up after the od or > the parents come or the drama that appears of your age 9 times out of ten > brings in to a party. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 23:25:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4190 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 23:25:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 4181 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 23:25:32 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 23:25:32 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com (321) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vVOa015308 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 19:24:22 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:24:21 EDT Subject: Re: Re: kids at parties(was children of the sun...) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_bf5297c9.247b39a5_boundary" X-Mailer: Netmail sub 2 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_bf5297c9.247b39a5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_bf5297c9.247b39a5_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: JUNGurlE@aol.com From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Full-name: JUNGurlE Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:23:57 EDT Subject: Re: Re: kids at parties(was children of the sun...) To: TonicBond@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Netmail sub 2 In a message dated 05/24/1999, 4:12:02 PM, TonicBond@aol.com writes: <> hahahaha.. sorry abby but that was way too funny! lol.. I love being totally of age! hahahahaha >:) <3 AMBERger 'elper --part1_bf5297c9.247b39a5_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 23:26:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4902 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 23:26:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 4894 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 23:26:01 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?GsG0T8SvKL/AkXXvv8Xf03Ns/QJcHxCE?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 23:26:01 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id QAA07506 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:25:59 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:25:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley Reply-To: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Metropolis, Festivals, why is this bad Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OK. All this talk about how Metropolis is going to suck made me wonder some things. Is rave dead in the UK? I mean you have festivals and the people there are lovin it, from the punters who only hear dance music at Ministry of Sound, to the ardcore junglis who's been down since 1990. Why are they lovin it? In the words of my homegirl from East London "Everyone is proper fuct, the DJ lineups are inconceivable, they go on forever, people go insane, there are a million people there and loads from far away, and loads from down the street." What is wrong with big huge festivals with fat DJ lineups, and huge sound systems and mass amounts of people you've never seen before? If you work in the rave scene....it can be your weekend off! If you are into meeting people, you can meet people! If you like getting fucked up out of your gourd and chilling, hey GO TO IT. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 23:29:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6208 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 23:29:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 6179 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 23:29:46 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 23:29:46 -0000 Received: from Speedex33@aol.com (14366) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNYZa02691 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 19:28:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Speedex33@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:28:56 EDT Subject: Lost camera at T&J To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey everyone, i lost a small one time use camera at the 2 year aniversary this weekend and i was wondering if anyone found one that they think might be it, or there was a lost and found and i can get ahold of, or something like that. it didn't have flash on it, it only had like 3 pictures left and the brand name of it wasn't Kodak, it started with a C, but i forget the name. Thanks, Scott From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 23:33:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9333 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 23:33:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 9317 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 23:33:27 -0000 Received: from pop03.globecomm.net (206.253.130.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 23:33:27 -0000 Received: from tar-and-gravel ([206.25.144.218]) by pop03.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id TAA21841 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 19:33:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990524163358.038a5e00@shell4.ba.best.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:34:06 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: ry-N Subject: dune info Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey does anyone have any info or know where I can get info on the Dune party in LA on June 19th? thanks ryan ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 23:40:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14246 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 23:40:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 14235 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 23:40:50 -0000 Received: from heinlein.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 23:40:50 -0000 Received: from godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.45]) by heinlein.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) with ESMTP id TAA29160; Mon, 24 May 1999 19:37:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id TAA25470; Mon, 24 May 1999 19:37:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:37:43 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu To: Space201@aol.com cc: BigM009@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 18+ parties, how To regulate? In-Reply-To: <6fe06c48.247b1df8@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >That is QUITE the HARSH stereotype. not really. may i ask how old you are? i'm not trying to flam eyou but i thought i knew everything as an 15-18 year old when i really didn't. i got into college and discovered the whole frat/sorority party drinking thing and went overboard with that even though i had graduated high school. to put it bluntly, even at 18 poeple still don't have enough expirience to make wise decisions. there will be teenagers who are very responsible and mature, but years of exiprience are what you should be judged upon. i'm no wise woman (lesie should be a good resource for this considering she has raised a wonderful girl who used to be my best friend in my younger years) but i can tell that i used to think i was invincible and now that i look back i see how stupid and young i acted, and i feel i've changed for the better now and learned somr valuable lessons. but i don't think poeple should be learning those kind of life lessons at parties, especially with the huge temptation to do drugs. when you are a teen, i don't care WHO you are, you haven't been alive long enough to make the right choices, and it's very easy to ruin your life by becoming a rebelloius child, doing so many drugs that you forget about school and work and your after school activities. if everyone was meant to be grown up by 16 then why don't we see 16 year olds with PhD's and doctorates, living on their won with full time jobs already having BA's under their belts? poeple just don't grow up that fast, and you really need to be a grown up to handle partying. i'm not putting myself on a pedastle and saying that i'm a grownup, cuz i'm not, but i sure know how to get my life together to be successful that i'm not going to get sidetracked by temptations. much love, amber --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 23:42:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15577 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 23:42:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 15545 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 23:42:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO osiris.vegasquick.com) (root@209.101.75.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 23:42:21 -0000 Received: from seker (seker.socalraves.com [209.101.75.16] (may be forged)) by osiris.vegasquick.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA17362; Mon, 24 May 1999 15:42:31 -0700 From: "Vegas Rick" To: "ry-N" , Subject: RE: dune info Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:29:07 -0700 Message-ID: <003e01bea63d$37fb8940$104b65d1@t2000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990524163358.038a5e00@shell4.ba.best.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk http://www.dunefestival.com is the official site for it. They are planning on about 10,000 people, so get your tickets early. --Vegas Rick Before you criticize someone walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you are a mile away and you have their shoes. > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of ry-N > Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 4:34 PM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: dune info > > > hey does anyone have any info or know where I can get info on the Dune > party in LA on June 19th? > > thanks > > ryan > > > > > > > > ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah > wif me ******* > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 23:44:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17546 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 23:44:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 17536 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 23:44:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO osiris.vegasquick.com) (root@209.101.75.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 23:44:04 -0000 Received: from seker (seker.socalraves.com [209.101.75.16] (may be forged)) by osiris.vegasquick.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA17373; Mon, 24 May 1999 15:44:36 -0700 From: "Vegas Rick" To: "dj _haK" , Subject: RE: you're killing the rave scene Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:31:11 -0700 Message-ID: <003f01bea63d$81ad80c0$104b65d1@t2000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <19990524230756.16478.qmail@hotmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Since when are orgies and OD'ing exclusive to teenagers? No one throws a party thinking "Yeah. We're gonna have a phat lineup that will make kids kill themselves." It's a side-effect of the party. They don't need to go their to do drugs, they can and will do them anywhere. It is the teenagers that give the scene its influx of energy and new styles and such. Without them the scene would be dead because the older people get tired of it or whatever and move on. It is their new blood that keep it evolving and moving and in the spirit of what it first started in. Teens should have access to the culture they are creating, if they don't have it, then they will create another one somewhere where they can do the same types of things. And then the rave scene will be truly dead. --Vegas Rick It takes considerable knowledge just to recognize the extent of your own ignorance. > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of dj _haK > Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 4:08 PM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: you're killing the rave scene > > > what's wrong with the scene? after reading the post about > 'children of the > sun'; i feel sick to my stomach. > all the so called 'underground' rave parties are just a facade > for mad drug > orgies with 12-16 year old kids as the main clients! that is so > phucked up > beyond belief. > do any of you promoters have any shame? or is the dollar stronger than a > 15yr olds life? when some 14 yr old dies from an OD, you can bet > '20/20' or > 'dateline' or any of the media will through a negative slant on the scene > and we'll all lose out. > no one; save the parents, can make the choice for anyone under 18 > legally. > hell anyone under 18 can't even go to an 'R' movie. > the line is crossed, promoters need to make parties 18 over; end of story. > otherwise the rave scene is dead. > > hak > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 23:45:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18773 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 23:45:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 18761 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 23:45:22 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 23:45:22 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (533) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id qKDCa15953; Mon, 24 May 1999 19:44:37 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <489ee040.247b3e65@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:44:37 EDT Subject: Re: 18+ parties, how To regulate? (WTF?!?!) To: jvlavianos@cu-help.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Dear Jay: As always I respect the views of others. And I understand your point of view. I happen to strongly disagree with you on this though. At the point when I turned 21 I had no desire to go to 1015 before then. Which, for you old skool persons it was Martini's back then. I had no problem waiting my turn as millions did before me. Growing is alot of things. There is never a need to rush life. Your 21 now, what was your hurry. You now have the rest of your life to patronize 1015. Assuming its open next week. So why not worry about the things you can do at 17, 18, 19, and 20 while you can do that. Its almost like when your 15 and have your drivers permit. You just dont understand why you cant drive by yourself. You simply arent ready. You dont have the experience. And how are promoters, club owners, or parents to pick and choose who is mature enough to handle parting. Its a crap shoot. Im sure there are a few who can handle the responsiblity. But instead of showing your maturity by going to a party, show it by doing what it is 17, 18, 19, and 20 year olds do. And thats to live your life and mature so when you are 21 your ready to handle that responsibility. Dont push the envelope. I dont think I completly understood until I was older, and Im not that old. Im only 28, still growing, and maturing myself. But its so true how you change and how you look at things differently as you mature, not just grow older. Im a father now, and that means alot to me too. Which has also changed my view points. Remember when you parents said to you, " you'll understand when your older." I hate myself for knowing they were right. But damn, they were. So you say your 21 now and you hated waiting until you were 21 to visit 1015. Ill tell you this. Im there almost every saturday night. But there is alot more to life. Try getting out in the city during the day and walking around. Look at the architecture, talk with the people and find out where they are from, think about the lives of all the homeless people, where theyve been, what drove them to be where they are now, visit the museums and art galleries, or enjoy the vast amounts of culture the city has to offer. Life isnt the scene or the music. Its composed of the song you write, sing, and dance to. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 24 23:48:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20748 invoked by uid 6000); 24 May 1999 23:48:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 20715 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 23:48:23 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 May 1999 23:48:23 -0000 Received: from Macias20@aol.com (8064) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id fAKZa02587; Mon, 24 May 1999 19:45:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Macias20@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:45:53 EDT Subject: Re: orgin To: diogenes@visi.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk IM GOING TO ORIGIN......MUAH sparkles From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 00:03:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29283 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 00:03:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 29274 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 00:03:14 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 00:03:14 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com (3705) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id tFDFa04195; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:01:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:01:47 EDT Subject: Re: 18+ parties, how To regulate? To: akp2@duke.edu CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yes you may ask, I'm 23. I don't care what your explanations are for thinking an under 18 person isn't capable of handling RAVES, it's a generalization. True, there are a lot of stupid kids, but there are kids with a FIRM grip of reality. More than I had when I was their age. And there are ADULTS without one. >From my own experience, I started going to parties at 16 years old. And I didn't get my first over-dose at one until I was, uh guess what, 19. Don't stereotype, it's bad for you. You'll be a bitter old person that eats squirrels and hates Japanese people. In a message dated 5/24/99 4:40:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, akp2@duke.edu writes: << >That is QUITE the HARSH stereotype. not really. may i ask how old you are? i'm not trying to flam eyou but i thought i knew everything as an 15-18 year old when i really didn't. i got into college and discovered the whole frat/sorority party drinking thing and went overboard with that even though i had graduated high school. to put it bluntly, even at 18 poeple still don't have enough expirience to make wise decisions. there will be teenagers who are very responsible and mature, but years of exiprience are what you should be judged upon. i'm no wise woman (lesie should be a good resource for this considering she has raised a wonderful girl who used to be my best friend in my younger years) but i can tell that i used to think i was invincible and now that i look back i see how stupid and young i acted, and i feel i've changed for the better now and learned somr valuable lessons. but i don't think poeple should be learning those kind of life lessons at parties, especially with the huge temptation to do drugs. when you are a teen, i don't care WHO you are, you haven't been alive long enough to make the right choices, and it's very easy to ruin your life by becoming a rebelloius child, doing so many drugs that you forget about school and work and your after school activities. if everyone was meant to be grown up by 16 then why don't we see 16 year olds with PhD's and doctorates, living on their won with full time jobs already having BA's under their belts? poeple just don't grow up that fast, and you really need to be a grown up to handle partying. i'm not putting myself on a pedastle and saying that i'm a grownup, cuz i'm not, but i sure know how to get my life together to be successful that i'm not going to get sidetracked by temptations. >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 00:07:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1662 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 00:07:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 1639 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 00:07:07 -0000 Received: from mole.slip.net (207.171.193.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 00:07:07 -0000 Received: from [207.171.214.12] (helo=exchange1.vertical.com) by mole.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 10m4kJ-0007Tw-00 for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:07:04 -0700 Received: by Exchange1.vertical.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:03:21 -0700 Message-ID: From: Monique Whittaker To: Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: 18+ parties, how To regulate? Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:01:42 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Your FIRST overdose?!!! As in, you've had several! Might I put forward that you are STILL not mature enough to party! -----Original Message----- From: Space201@aol.com [mailto:Space201@aol.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 5:02 PM To: akp2@duke.edu Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 18+ parties, how To regulate? Yes you may ask, I'm 23. I don't care what your explanations are for thinking an under 18 person isn't capable of handling RAVES, it's a generalization. True, there are a lot of stupid kids, but there are kids with a FIRM grip of reality. More than I had when I was their age. And there are ADULTS without one. From my own experience, I started going to parties at 16 years old. And I didn't get my first over-dose at one until I was, uh guess what, 19. Don't stereotype, it's bad for you. You'll be a bitter old person that eats squirrels and hates Japanese people. In a message dated 5/24/99 4:40:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, akp2@duke.edu writes: << >That is QUITE the HARSH stereotype. not really. may i ask how old you are? i'm not trying to flam eyou but i thought i knew everything as an 15-18 year old when i really didn't. i got into college and discovered the whole frat/sorority party drinking thing and went overboard with that even though i had graduated high school. to put it bluntly, even at 18 poeple still don't have enough expirience to make wise decisions. there will be teenagers who are very responsible and mature, but years of exiprience are what you should be judged upon. i'm no wise woman (lesie should be a good resource for this considering she has raised a wonderful girl who used to be my best friend in my younger years) but i can tell that i used to think i was invincible and now that i look back i see how stupid and young i acted, and i feel i've changed for the better now and learned somr valuable lessons. but i don't think poeple should be learning those kind of life lessons at parties, especially with the huge temptation to do drugs. when you are a teen, i don't care WHO you are, you haven't been alive long enough to make the right choices, and it's very easy to ruin your life by becoming a rebelloius child, doing so many drugs that you forget about school and work and your after school activities. if everyone was meant to be grown up by 16 then why don't we see 16 year olds with PhD's and doctorates, living on their won with full time jobs already having BA's under their belts? poeple just don't grow up that fast, and you really need to be a grown up to handle partying. i'm not putting myself on a pedastle and saying that i'm a grownup, cuz i'm not, but i sure know how to get my life together to be successful that i'm not going to get sidetracked by temptations. >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 00:08:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3723 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 00:08:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 3600 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 00:08:09 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 00:08:09 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com (3705) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vOYJa15511; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:07:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:07:12 EDT Subject: Re: 18+ parties, how To regulate? To: TonicBond@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Look, no matter to anyone's belief, this little rave scene of ours was FOUNDED on diversity. Take that away, and you have a bunch of stiff, bitter 18+ ravers. Plain and f******* simple. Maybe a minor is MORE likely to OD at en event than an 18+, but an 18+ still can, and DO, overdose. Happens all the time. Nothing more annoying in the rave scene than close-minded, stereotyping people, becuase that is the OPPOSITE of why the damn scene exists in the first place. In a message dated 5/24/99 3:45:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, TonicBond writes: << Ok pens and pencils ready... I'm sorry that you fall in to the stereotype of the under 18 drugged out immature wannabe ravers,(what moo said,)it needs to be said. I understand that doesn't mean that you are one of them, and we know that its not everyone thats fucking up. now unfortunately although you may have your whits about you, most are,and do. There for we get sick of cleaning up after the od or the parents come or the drama that appears of your age 9 times out of ten brings in to a party. this is all said with love >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 00:15:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8450 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 00:15:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 8388 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 00:15:47 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 00:15:47 -0000 Received: from BBoiBreks@aol.com (317) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iMYYa15563; Mon, 24 May 1999 19:42:31 -0400 (EDT) From: BBoiBreks@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:42:33 EDT Subject: Re: you're killing the rave scene To: dj_hak@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk So in otherwords, having an 18 year old o/d is better than having a 14 o/d? Yeah, really. It would make all of our lives easier wouldn't it? the facetious bboibreks w/o a clue of whatthehellisgoingon bboibreks From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 00:16:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9074 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 00:16:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 8977 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 00:16:00 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 00:16:00 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com (3705) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id uBYLa02573; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:14:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:14:04 EDT Subject: Re: 18+ parties, how To regulate? To: MoniqueW@vertical.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OK, let me clarify. My first and only overdose. But, you did get my point, I think. I'll quote you, "Might I put forward that you are STILL not mature enough to party!" I was 19 when this happened and you say I am still not, nor then mature enough to party, therefore THERE ARE 18+ kids not mature enough, as we all the 17-. I am living proof, I guess... You made my point exactly. Thank you for making your flame, it only stregthened my argument further. In a message dated 5/24/99 5:07:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, MoniqueW@vertical.com writes: << Your FIRST overdose?!!! As in, you've had several! Might I put forward that you are STILL not mature enough to party! >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 00:20:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11472 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 00:20:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 11462 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 00:20:22 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 00:20:22 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (14377) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vIABa02603; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:18:58 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <71f04e91.247b4671@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:18:57 EDT Subject: Re: 18+ parties, how To regulate? To: Space201@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/24/1999 5:16:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Space201@aol.com writes: << You made my point exactly. Thank you for making your flame, it only stregthened my argument further. >> I dont see how it strengthened your argument. I only see how you made it clear that 18+ parties are an important issue. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 00:21:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13430 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 00:21:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 13320 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 00:21:13 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 00:21:13 -0000 Received: from GParry1925@aol.com (305) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPGKa02708 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:20:19 -0400 (EDT) From: GParry1925@aol.com Message-ID: <92760ee7.247b46c1@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:20:17 EDT Subject: Simple Solution To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.6 for Mac Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Maybe we should stop complaining about vibes that dissipate into the rafters at Home Base, "ghetto" people, and irresponsible kids causing trouble, and actually try to exercise some influence over who goes to parties. The issue is not age (necessarily), generalized/stereotyped bad people or whatever, but the plain and simple fact that the wrong people are hearing about the parties. I'm sorry but in every group you try to keep out of a party you will lose a few (very few in some cases) people who would be valulable to the scene. The solution in to promote parties on an individual, person to person level. Forget the flyers, internet postings and radio ads, if you want decent people at your party and not dirty fuckers who are going to mess things up, let the good people know and not the bad people. I understand that this is much harder in practice, and of course you will end up with a few undesirables, but all in all you end up with a much better bunch of people. No, you won't get as many new people as you would otherwise, but you'd get a much lower percentage of new people you don't want. Besides, the scene has been growing far too quickly anyway. I've stopped going to larger and more promoted parties all together because the "new and interesting people who give life energy to a constantly evolving scene" are more and more often worthless and pathetic people (Yes I know this is harsh) who just detract from the party. Whether it's cheerleading squads (please don't accuse me of inaccurately stereotyping here) or thugs starting fights, the crowd at over promoted parties is getting worse and worse. What makes me mad is that there are a few of us kids who can handle ourselves and do not behave foolishly on drugs. Hell, I don't even use drugs. Please people, the solution is not 18+ or 21+ parties. There are bad people of all ages (definitlely more young ones I will admit) that can be weeded out if you actually try. The scene is what you make of it. Anyone agree with me and wanna throw a party? Owen From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 00:21:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14659 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 00:21:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 14303 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 00:21:37 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 00:21:37 -0000 Received: from BreAthNYoO@aol.com (4447) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vAPJa02742 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:20:27 -0400 (EDT) From: BreAthNYoO@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:20:24 EDT Subject: NRRRRRRR::THE MIRROR TRICK.. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk can the person or anyone that remembers.. relay that mirror trick thing to me again.. the one to with instructions on how to check if its a 2way mirror with the finger nail.................................................................... thanks so much love and light shaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 00:22:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15695 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 00:22:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 15628 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 00:22:32 -0000 Received: from law-f110.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.173) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 00:22:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 40723 invoked by uid 0); 25 May 1999 00:24:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525002420.40722.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.111.131.80 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:24:20 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.111.131.80] From: "Corey Landon" To: Space201@aol.com, akp2@duke.edu Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: ~DUH!~ Re: 18+ parties, how To regulate? Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:24:20 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On that note, how about this: At the map point, you will be asked to produce ID. If you a minor, you will be asked to step to the side to take a test. This test will determine your level of common sense, and if you fail, it looks like it's a Blockbuster night :P Sample test questions: 1. Have you ever gnawed through a pacifier? 2. If your parents caught you tonight, would you be grounded for more than a month? 3. True or False: G mixed with enough K to make a thick paste is a GREAT bagel spread. 4. The party gets busted and there are 15 cops standing around. You are high as fuck. Do you: A: Wander around until you sober up B: Ask for your money back C: Drop another hit of E D: Get impatient and drive home E: Both C & D 6: If you are too high to stand up for longer than five minutes at a time, should you take more drugs? 7: BONUS! Did it take you longer than ten minutes to complete this test??? CL >From: Space201@aol.com >To: akp2@duke.edu >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: 18+ parties, how To regulate? >Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:01:47 EDT > >Yes you may ask, I'm 23. I don't care what your explanations are for >thinking >an under 18 person isn't capable of handling RAVES, it's a generalization. >True, there are a lot of stupid kids, but there are kids with a FIRM grip >of >reality. More than I had when I was their age. And there are ADULTS without >one. > >From my own experience, I started going to parties at 16 years old. And I >didn't get my first over-dose at one until I was, uh guess what, 19. >Don't stereotype, it's bad for you. You'll be a bitter old person that eats >squirrels and hates Japanese people. > >In a message dated 5/24/99 4:40:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, akp2@duke.edu >writes: > ><< >That is QUITE the HARSH stereotype. > > not really. may i ask how old you are? i'm not trying to flam eyou but > i thought i knew everything as an 15-18 year old when i really didn't. i > got into college and discovered the whole frat/sorority party drinking > thing and went overboard with that even though i had graduated high > school. to put it bluntly, even at 18 poeple still don't have enough > expirience to make wise decisions. there will be teenagers who are very > responsible and mature, but years of exiprience are what you should be > judged upon. i'm no wise woman (lesie should be a good resource for this > considering she has raised a wonderful girl who used to be my best friend > in my younger years) but i can tell that i used to think i was invincible > and now that i look back i see how stupid and young i acted, and i feel > i've changed for the better now and learned somr valuable lessons. but i > don't think poeple should be learning those kind of life lessons at > parties, especially with the huge temptation to do drugs. when you are a > teen, i don't care WHO you are, you haven't been alive long enough to > make the right choices, and it's very easy to ruin your life by becoming >a > rebelloius child, doing so many drugs that you forget about school and > work and your after school activities. if everyone was meant to be grown > up by 16 then why don't we see 16 year olds with PhD's and doctorates, > living on their won with full time jobs already having BA's under their > belts? poeple just don't grow up that fast, and you really need to be a > grown up to handle partying. i'm not putting myself on a pedastle and > saying that i'm a grownup, cuz i'm not, but i sure know how to get my > life together to be successful that i'm not going to get sidetracked by > temptations. >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 00:26:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18736 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 00:26:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 18711 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 00:26:15 -0000 Received: from nettapp.nettwerk.com (HELO budd.nettwerk.com) (209.17.154.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 00:26:15 -0000 Received: from [216.101.68.178] (adsl-216-101-68-178.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [216.101.68.178]) by budd.nettwerk.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA05980 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:22:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: william@mailhost.nettwerk.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:29:35 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: william godoy Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey anyone going to Dune? Have they chosen an actual location? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 00:26:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18897 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 00:26:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 18712 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 00:26:16 -0000 Received: from web208.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.108) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 00:26:16 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525002705.23945.rocketmail@web208.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.108.64.194] by web208.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:27:05 PDT Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:27:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Jean-Baptiste Laplace Subject: Re: ~DUH!~ Re: 18+ parties, how To regulate? To: Corey Landon , Space201@aol.com, akp2@duke.edu Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hahahahaah, I really liked this one. I had a bad day but now.... I laugh and I'm relief... C-U JB --- Corey Landon wrote: > On that note, how about this: > > At the map point, you will be asked to produce ID. > If you a minor, you will > be asked to step to the side to take a test. This > test will determine your > level of common sense, and if you fail, it looks > like it's a Blockbuster > night :P > > Sample test questions: > > 1. Have you ever gnawed through a pacifier? > > 2. If your parents caught you tonight, would you be > grounded for more > than a month? > > 3. True or False: G mixed with enough K to make a > thick paste is a GREAT > bagel spread. > > 4. The party gets busted and there are 15 cops > standing around. You are > high as fuck. Do you: > > A: Wander around until you sober up > B: Ask for your money back > C: Drop another hit of E > D: Get impatient and drive home > E: Both C & D > > 6: If you are too high to stand up for longer than > five minutes at a time, > should you take more drugs? > > 7: BONUS! Did it take you longer than ten minutes > to complete this test??? > > > CL > > > >From: Space201@aol.com > >To: akp2@duke.edu > >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: 18+ parties, how To regulate? > >Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:01:47 EDT > > > >Yes you may ask, I'm 23. I don't care what your > explanations are for > >thinking > >an under 18 person isn't capable of handling RAVES, > it's a generalization. > >True, there are a lot of stupid kids, but there are > kids with a FIRM grip > >of > >reality. More than I had when I was their age. And > there are ADULTS without > >one. > > > >From my own experience, I started going to parties > at 16 years old. And I > >didn't get my first over-dose at one until I was, > uh guess what, 19. > >Don't stereotype, it's bad for you. You'll be a > bitter old person that eats > >squirrels and hates Japanese people. > > > >In a message dated 5/24/99 4:40:58 PM Pacific > Daylight Time, akp2@duke.edu > >writes: > > > ><< >That is QUITE the HARSH stereotype. > > > > not really. may i ask how old you are? i'm not > trying to flam eyou but > > i thought i knew everything as an 15-18 year old > when i really didn't. i > > got into college and discovered the whole > frat/sorority party drinking > > thing and went overboard with that even though i > had graduated high > > school. to put it bluntly, even at 18 poeple > still don't have enough > > expirience to make wise decisions. there will be > teenagers who are very > > responsible and mature, but years of exiprience > are what you should be > > judged upon. i'm no wise woman (lesie should be > a good resource for this > > considering she has raised a wonderful girl who > used to be my best friend > > in my younger years) but i can tell that i used > to think i was invincible > > and now that i look back i see how stupid and > young i acted, and i feel > > i've changed for the better now and learned somr > valuable lessons. but i > > don't think poeple should be learning those kind > of life lessons at > > parties, especially with the huge temptation to > do drugs. when you are a > > teen, i don't care WHO you are, you haven't been > alive long enough to > > make the right choices, and it's very easy to > ruin your life by becoming > >a > > rebelloius child, doing so many drugs that you > forget about school and > > work and your after school activities. if > everyone was meant to be grown > > up by 16 then why don't we see 16 year olds with > PhD's and doctorates, > > living on their won with full time jobs already > having BA's under their > > belts? poeple just don't grow up that fast, and > you really need to be a > > grown up to handle partying. i'm not putting > myself on a pedastle and > > saying that i'm a grownup, cuz i'm not, but i > sure know how to get my > > life together to be successful that i'm not going > to get sidetracked by > > temptations. >> > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 00:26:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18913 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 00:26:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 18738 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 00:26:18 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 00:26:18 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com (3945) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vADRa03096 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:24:21 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: <610b99c7.247b47b4@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:24:20 EDT Subject: Re: 18+ parties, how To regulate? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk *sniff* IM A GOOD BOI I AM!!!! dont hate me!!!! im responsible!1 raving is the only outlet i have ever known where i can feel accepted and loved! hel when i started i didnt even know what e was! and when i didn take it at a party i realised this... E + me + pawty = no dance = no fun = cracked out :P so i go sober now and i would hate for all these parties to start beig 18+ well obviously this isnt going to happen becuse alot of the times its the under 18 crowds that bring in the money for the promoters but still if the really good UG or just GOOD parties are 18+ just when i found the true reason i rave and when i begin to have FUN again! i would break down and cry! its a good idea but sometimes thats all it is (an idea) i dont think that making parties 18+ will do much good cause if they want to these 16+ kids will get a fake id and that will leave the 12-14 kids out (thank you god) poo why cant i sound smart like the rest of u? -aaron (orion) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 00:27:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21142 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 00:27:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 21072 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 00:27:25 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 00:27:25 -0000 Received: from GParry1925@aol.com (305) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vYCKa15609 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:25:37 -0400 (EDT) From: GParry1925@aol.com Message-ID: <6bdb8fa0.247b4800@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:25:36 EDT Subject: @spire number please To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.6 for Mac Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Could someone send me the @spire number please? Also, how many people are expected? thanks owen From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 00:31:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24392 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 00:31:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 24092 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 00:31:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO osiris.vegasquick.com) (root@209.101.75.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 00:31:46 -0000 Received: from seker (seker.socalraves.com [209.101.75.16] (may be forged)) by osiris.vegasquick.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA17652; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:31:51 -0700 From: "Vegas Rick" To: "william godoy" , Subject: RE: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:17:51 -0700 Message-ID: <004301bea644$06e4d6c0$104b65d1@t2000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm going. And yes they have chosen the actual location. --Vegas Rick Die Trying > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of william godoy > Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 6:30 PM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: > > > Hey anyone going to Dune? Have they chosen an actual location? > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 00:32:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25972 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 00:32:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 25872 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 00:32:30 -0000 Received: from pimout4-ext.prodigy.net (HELO pimout4-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.58.198) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 00:32:30 -0000 Received: from prodigy.net (SNFCB210-28.splitrock.net [209.156.149.143]) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA31638; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:32:25 -0400 Message-ID: <3749EEBD.A5FA815D@prodigy.net> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:28:46 -0700 From: JOELANZON Reply-To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Max McCauley CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Metropolis, Festivals, why is this bad References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The difference between here and the UK is simple - In the UK everything is mainstream and the difference between them and us is that they don't care. When something here is on the radio or gets advertised and whatever we think "oh its mainstream" but pick up any imported magazine (Muzik, DJ, Jockey Slut, Ministry, Mixmag) and you'll be surprised to see your favorite DJ/Producer playing where at? A super club, the radio, oh my god is that a super festival! Why yes it is. Big full 2 page ads, radio campaigns, internet advertisement, huge flyers, hell Ministry has there own ISP. There culture over there is completely different, and the music and the advertising campaigns are aimed more to the adults. They're more open and don't consider things mainstream. They're perfectly content with hearing the likes of Paul Oakenfold, Carl Cox, Paul Van Dyk, Sasha and Digweed, Laurent Garnier, Roni Size, Ed Rush, etc., being played not only on THE RADIO but at they're favorite club and super massive festival. Even 'our' DJs that are playing over there are playing at clubs or festivals, not raves. Lets see is this DJ Dan at the 'Homelands Festival' on the 29th in Hampshire with and expected turnout of 35,000 people? Or what about Gatecrasher, June 19th with the likes of David Morales, Erik Morillo, and Dj Sneak. You'll even find good ole Doc Martin over there somewhere. With the passing of certain laws over there making raving practically illegal, raving to them is super deep illegal two day techno romps in super unknown and sometimes unsafe abandoned locations. Spiral Tribe and The Liberators are well known for these types of events. Not everyones cup of tea over there. I say as long as the music is good, so be it. Who cares if its 'mainstream' or underground, Metroplis or a word of mouth party. Good music is meant to be enjoyed by all. -peace- Joe Lanzon Max McCauley wrote: > OK. > > All this talk about how Metropolis is going to suck made me wonder some > things. > > Is rave dead in the UK? > > I mean you have festivals and the people there are lovin it, from the > punters who only hear dance music at Ministry of Sound, to the ardcore > junglis who's been down since 1990. Why are they lovin it? > > In the words of my homegirl from East London "Everyone is proper fuct, the > DJ lineups are inconceivable, they go on forever, people go insane, there > are a million people there and loads from far away, and loads from down > the street." > > What is wrong with big huge festivals with fat DJ lineups, and huge sound > systems and mass amounts of people you've never seen before? If you work > in the rave scene....it can be your weekend off! If you are into meeting > people, you can meet people! If you like getting fucked up out of your > gourd and chilling, hey GO TO IT. > > 10-4, > duh, > max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 00:32:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26043 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 00:32:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 25960 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 00:32:33 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 00:32:33 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com (3945) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vFZPa02691 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:28:32 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:28:28 EDT Subject: re: 18+ pawties and 17- kids To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yaknow whatll happen? some 17- kids will get their acts together and start throwing UG parties that are 17- *(o';'o)* that'd be somethin eh? we would have an age segregated rave culture! maybe there will be 30+ and 50+ raves too! :P -aaron (orion) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 00:37:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1106 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 00:37:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 995 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 00:37:35 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 00:37:35 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com (14430) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vKMUa03098; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:35:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:35:23 EDT Subject: Re: 18+ parties, how To regulate? To: BigM009@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You know what, I'm not even gonna reply. No offense, but if you read all my postings and replies on the subject leading to this one, I'm sure you'll see my point. HINT: Look for the part about me being 19... In a message dated 5/24/99 5:18:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Big M 009 writes: << I dont see how it strengthened your argument. I only see how you made it clear that 18+ parties are an important issue. Peace, M >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 00:38:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2247 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 00:38:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 2073 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 00:38:14 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 00:38:14 -0000 Received: from DjShUbErT@aol.com (2612) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vAVEa08831; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:36:38 -0400 (EDT) From: DjShUbErT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:36:37 EDT Subject: Re: 18+ parties, how To regulate, different viewpoint To: Space201@aol.com, TonicBond@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I've been reading most of these posts and i can say that i agree and disagree with alot of the different views and i agree about parties being 18+ but you gotta look at it this way too ...promoting parties is a business ...promoters make money and spend money on promotions..djs..ect. Now sure maybe some promoters will actually look into throwing 18+ parties ...Maybe some of the more UG promoters can even pull this off but could you imagine.. (Example) the Trance and Jungle Factory throwing a 18 + event with a capacity of 2000 people? im not trying to stereotype but from what ive seen the crowd is generally younger than lets say the Gathering parties ..could a party put together by promoters who bring in a younger crowd attract enough 18+ party goers to even break even? Realistically, the risk is too high for the majority of promoters out there to pull this off because it is a business after all . Peace , Shubert From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 00:38:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3076 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 00:38:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 2881 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 00:38:36 -0000 Received: from web804.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 00:38:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525004144.21139.rocketmail@web804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.180.76.16] by web804.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:41:44 PDT Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:41:44 -0700 (PDT) From: loic comolli Subject: Re: 18+ parties, how To regulate? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk finally the 18+ issue arises. i totally agree that parties should be 18+. it's shocking to see 18- kids so fucked up they can't stand up or open their eyes. the reason most of us - i.e., in their 20's i guess - want to see 18+ parties is because there's just no other way of "screening" who's mature enough to get into a party. age is a very subjective index, but that's the only one we've got. regardless of what people on this list say, there's a strong correlation between maturity and age - and for those of you under 18, deal with it. this is not true of everybody out there, but it's true for the vast majority. now i agree with hak that it is the promoters' responsibilty to enforce an 18+ policy. we - sfraves - can talk about this all day, as long as promoters don't change their $$$ mentality, they'll keep letting in whoever waves a $20-bill. enforcing this is not hard at all. as somebody said, put on the flyer 18+ and stick to it. for sure the first time a lot of kids will still buy tickets and try to get in, but once they're sent back home they'll understand. believe me, they're not gonna come back every weekend with a ticket in hand hoping to get in. not all parties need to be 18+ by the way. some promoters might decide to throw 18+ parties, but i'm sure some others won't. in which case we'd have the best of both worlds i guess - even if i think all parties should be 18+. there's nobody out there to regulate raves. it is the promoters who provide much of the "regulation." let's see if some of them can act responsibly and try the 18+ policy. loic From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 00:50:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8517 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 00:50:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 8508 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 00:50:01 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 00:50:01 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (8033) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vZMUa15536; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:47:42 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:47:43 EDT Subject: Re: 18+ parties, how To regulate? To: Space201@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/24/1999 5:38:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Space201@aol.com writes: << You know what, I'm not even gonna reply. No offense, but if you read all my postings and replies on the subject leading to this one, I'm sure you'll see my point. HINT: Look for the part about me being 19... >> I understand your 19. I followed the whole thing. And no need to get all worked up. If you dont want to reply dont. Just shows your immaturity again. This isnt personal. But if you want to take it that way then thats your choice. Im simply trying to have an intelligent and constructive debate. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 00:50:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9189 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 00:50:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 9165 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 00:50:25 -0000 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 00:50:25 -0000 Received: from best.com ([216.132.92.5]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id RAA23785; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3749F2DA.538C424F@best.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:46:18 -0700 From: just jer Organization: @spire X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GParry1925@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: @spire number please References: <6bdb8fa0.247b4800@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Phone number is on the bottom. We're selling only 1600 tickets. GParry1925@aol.com wrote: > > Could someone send me the @spire number please? Also, how many people are > expected? > > thanks > owen -- ... it's almost here ... @spire (415) 273-5513 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 00:51:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9931 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 00:50:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 9906 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 00:50:57 -0000 Received: from ewey-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO ewey.excite.com) (198.3.99.191) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 00:50:57 -0000 Received: from bucky.excite.com ([199.172.152.80]) by ewey.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990525005108.IIG15530.ewey@bucky.excite.com> for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:51:08 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: 18 up, who will do it??? Message-Id: <927593430.7043.619@excite.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:50:30 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok, everyone who's arguing that the under-18s would be unfairly punished by 18-up events... i say too bad, because the benefits outweigh the liabilities... and the direction we're heading, we're ALL being punished. see, the issue isn't if "little suzie" is really so "mature" and whatever (yes, right, little suzie, i know you're "different" and promise you can handle six different substances from strangers, but that's irrelevant) ... the issue is that little suzie isn't legally allowed to be at this kind of event if her mommy doesn't want her to. and when her mommy comes a-knockin', then there's trouble. and sorry, little suzie's friends, but if i'm at a party, and i am a responsible adult, i am pretty damned pissed off when little suzie's mommy comes with the cops and we ALL go home. that sucks, and suddenly little suzie's desire to be treated like an adult (and i have met *many* a little suzie, ok?) has dissappeared, because the legal fact is that she isn't. see, i'm a grownup, but my right to party is being cramped by little suzies wanting to be part of an underground world against the wishes of those who have legal responsibility for them... parents. and little suzie, i've sat with you and your friends at parties in the medical room while you begged that the ambulance not be called because your parents didn't know where you were, and you might be put into child protective services if they're not home (that's how it works, kids)... and though it broke my heart, protecting you came before your desire not to get into trouble... but that ambulance was one more "mark" against the entire rave scene as an example of irresponsible partying.... and i have first-hand experience that a completely disproportionate number of these cases are kids who really shouldn't be out all night at all. the solution? i'd like to see which promoters are willing to put themselves at the forefront of responsibility here and make their next event 18-up. ID required. and i volunteer to check 'em at the door for the first party (since that's my favorite place to work the party anyway) and it appears from the conversation on here that for every little suzie and her friend who thinks that sucks, there are three or four adults who say that, while we regret the necessity of this, our right to dance all night among other responsible adults has GOT to outweigh little suzie's desire to be there, too. and, to the person who implied that children of the sun was some sort of money-grubbing irresponsible crew for letting in kids.... forget about that. these guys have the biggest hearts and really do everything to bring up the standards of our scenes... the problem of little suzies everywhere is throughout the scene, and there are no personal fingers to be pointed.... (except for those who choose to promote at high schools, there i draw the line) but it's time to stop. who will be the first to make their next event 18-up? of course, we still risk being busted for other reasons... but at least we're not being pursued by "mommies on a mission"... and as a little history here, i was a guest on the leeza gibbons show a few years back on exactly this topic--- mothers whose young daughters snuck out of the house to go to raves... i went on to attempt to present the other side of the story -- that raving is not just some drug fest for adolescents, but that it's a community of people from all walks of life who share a love of the music and dance. i believe that with all my heart, but i also completely understand the perspective of those mothers. the reality is that we ARE a community.... and sometimes the grownups get to do things the kids don't .... and while the line between kid and adult is hazy at best, we must draw a line in order to protect the rights of the adults. so... who's the first promoter willing to step forward for the 18-up event... and i'm talking about events that don't require that age limitation because of the venue.... i'm ready to put my doorshift on my calendar. leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 00:54:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12678 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 00:54:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 12573 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 00:54:31 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 00:54:31 -0000 Received: from TonicBond@aol.com (14445) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vZZKa15042; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:52:28 -0400 (EDT) From: TonicBond@aol.com Message-ID: <53f68ab2.247b4e4b@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:52:27 EDT Subject: Re: 18+ parties, how To regulate? To: Space201@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/24/1999 5:16:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Space201@aol.com writes: << You made my point exactly. Thank you for making your flame, it only stregthened my argument further. >> >> No, it only proves that you were the product of what drugs and parties can do to someone under 18... and it also shows your ignorance at 19...dont you think that if you had waited a few years that you might have had a better incite into the control of what ever you od on! so what drives you to fend for the younger crowd, are you a dealer trying to corrupt them ?... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 00:54:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12787 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 00:54:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 12589 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 00:54:35 -0000 Received: from shell.tsoft.com (root@198.144.192.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 00:54:35 -0000 Received: from dand.com (hurricane.dand.com [209.133.59.242]) by shell.tsoft.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA25304 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from royal [209.133.59.246] by dand.com (FTGate 2, 1, 2, 1); Mon, 24 May 99 17:39:38 -0700 From: "Joshua Goldberg" To: "SF raves" Subject: NRR: FROM A LOGICAL & SENSITIVE POINT OF VIEW Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:51:08 -0700 Message-ID: <002701bea648$acef69a0$f63b85d1@royal.dand> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01BEA60E.00921840" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01BEA60E.00921840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FROM A LOGICAL & SENSITIVE POINT OF VIEW..... There is no wonder, read and ponder.... and be a solution. What a bunch of crap from the Judeo-christian cult system that has slaughtered, oppressed, abused and ethnicly cleansed more people than any other group. How about looking at all this starting when we taught our children that their bodies are "naughty" and their thoughts dirty? What about when we decided that we should use chemicals in our foods and fertilizers to distort natural balances and cause the highest cancer rate the earth has ever known? Boy that really builds hope in a child. What about exposing children to violent, unrealistic and stereotyped models of human behaviour in the form of television. They don't call it programming for nothing. Our artificial culture with it's overcrowding, overconsumption and intrinsic lies has caused extreme distrust, disloyalty and apathy among our children. For good reason, we're full of shit and they know it. How about the fact that of the 8 school massacres 5 of the perpatrators were on mood altering drugs? Four of them were on Prozac and one was on Lomax. All antidepresants, all drugs with a history of causing violent mood swings and all given to the children by a licensed doctor with the permisssion of their parents. Well, it worked, they weren't depressed... And key factor of all, sometimes it's the bully that gets his ass kicked. SO..... Don't raise your kids to be bullies Don't feed your kids poison food Destroy your television Question authority Don't give your kids drugs, prescription or otherwise Be a good example ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01BEA60E.00921840 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_0028_01BEA60E.00921840-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 00:58:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15383 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 00:58:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 15375 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 00:57:58 -0000 Received: from web123.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.191) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 00:57:58 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525005842.19273.rocketmail@web123.yahoomail.com> Received: from [205.185.131.147] by web123.yahoomail.com; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:58:42 PDT Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:58:42 -0700 (PDT) From: chrisP Subject: Re: 18+ parties, how To regulate? the point is... To: Jay , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --- Jay wrote: > Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't that unfortunate soul who fell off a > ravine at that desert party... over 18 ? In fact, I do seem to remember > that many of the fatalities were cursed to 18+'ers. That being said, what > is your point ? Jay, judging from your previous posts, you appear to be a nice, reasonable guy. This is not a flame, I'll try to explain the point.... A majority of the problems (od's, mommy busts) seem to be caused by the under 18 crowd. Eliminate that crowd and logic suggests you eliminate a majority of the problems. The scene may become a little less exciting (I doubt it) but there will still be parties to attend when the kids turn 18. Its true not all youngsters are irresponcible. Its also true some of the 18 and up crowd lack common sense. Does this invalidate the logic of +18 parties. Nope. Ask yourself this, which of the following situations would do more to damage our scene; Some impressionable 15 yr old kid dies fom an OD at a 2-nd and Jax party. (It's only a matter of time.) Or, someone viewed as an adult, capable of making their own decisions wanders off a cliff and dies in the desert. (Just happend last year.) I think the answer is pretty clear. peace chrisp From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 00:58:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16240 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 00:58:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 16222 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 00:58:33 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 00:58:33 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com (14430) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rQDSa02743; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:56:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:56:12 EDT Subject: Re: 18+ parties To: lxc_2@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Fine, do your 18+ parties people, but face the facts, you will STILL get an overdose or 2. If you're doing an 18+ event to stop overdosing, you are WRONG. But if you are doing it to DECREASE the overdoses, hey, you just may be onto something here. Good luck. In a message dated 5/24/99 5:39:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time, lxc_2@yahoo.com writes: << i totally agree that parties should be 18+. it's shocking to see 18- kids so fucked up they can't stand up or open their eyes. >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 00:58:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16954 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 00:58:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 16898 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 00:58:54 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 00:58:54 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (8033) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id yTRVa15953; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:56:15 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <10e7ad64.247b4f3e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:56:30 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: FROM A LOGICAL & SENSITIVE POINT OF VIEW To: jgoldberg@dand.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Whats up with this post? Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 01:07:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24016 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 01:07:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 23594 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 01:07:34 -0000 Received: from mail-gw.pacbell.net (206.13.28.25) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 01:07:34 -0000 Received: from pacbell.net (ppp-209-79-196-201.scrm01.pacbell.net [209.79.196.201]) by mail-gw.pacbell.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA07431; Mon, 24 May 1999 18:07:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37494F6A.6257142E@pacbell.net> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 06:08:59 -0700 From: dr_XeNo Organization: KDVS DJ/USDAFS Genetics Lab Asst. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-PBI-NC404 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The Davis Family , SacRaves , SFRaves Subject: BSP: *TeK-IndUced EuPHoriA* f. Paul Gordon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 'Lo there, peeps! Hey we've managed ta bring Paul back fer another, less dramatic session, here @KDVS. Last show the poor guy had ta spin in a hallway, fer cryin' out loud! ;-) We'll be warming up fer tha Bliss partEE coming up, June 4th....so be sure and stay chooned fer tha interview, where we'll be giving away a pair of tix ta tha part-ay.... Take care, and njoi tha show..... _*TeK-IndUced EuPHoriA*_ Featuring: Paul Gordon/DoubleDown TiX Giveaways: Bliss/DoubleDown/In Tha Mix 916.554.0885 415.248.2678 As usual, I'll be online during tha whole show in tha #sfraves room on IRC, checking me email, and on AOhelL's IM as drXeNo6, not including dr_XeNo6 on Yahoo! Pager. ;-) Or, try me on ICQ #18463830. Be sure ta call in n say wazzup! U kidz take care........ :-) -- <<>> 90.3FM KDVS, Davis dr_XeNo@pacbell.net IM= drXeNo6 ICQ= #18463830 http://drxeno.cjb.net/ 90.3FM KDVS, Davis -----\/ Every Other Mon Nite, 10-Midnite: _*TeK-IndUced EuPHoriA*_ Listen On RealAudio and See Tha Calendar @ ------\/ http://tek.cjb.net/ <<<<<>>>>> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 01:13:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27311 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 01:13:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 27295 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 01:13:40 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 01:13:40 -0000 Received: from Jkbro@aol.com (14410) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNMHa14682 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 21:12:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Jkbro@aol.com Message-ID: <2aca0b78.247b52fd@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:12:29 EDT Subject: Hello all To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi, My name is Josh and I just got into town about two months ago. Some of you might remember my other email josh.breault@xylan.com. I was on the list for about a year and had to sign off because i was moving here from massachusetts. Well I just wanted to say hi to everyone and that's about it. Keep smilin. josh From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 01:22:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1869 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 01:22:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 1855 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 01:22:04 -0000 Received: from web123.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.191) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 01:22:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525012248.23194.rocketmail@web123.yahoomail.com> Received: from [205.188.199.188] by web123.yahoomail.com; Mon, 24 May 1999 18:22:48 PDT Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 18:22:48 -0700 (PDT) From: li'l one Subject: Re: 18+ parties To: Space201@aol.com, lxc_2@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i've been reading these all day, and all i have to say, at this frusterated point, is that taking the kids out of the parties is not going result in fewer OD's, nor will is create a better vibe. yes, it would stop moms from chasing buses to parties - but i am yet to be convinced that this is a continuously pressing problem. the younger kids are the most beautiful part of the scene, i think - certainly not when they're going into seizures on the street or in front of the dj, but definatetly when they bring in their fresh vibes and dance around like little spaztik elmos. there are enuf places that restrict people under 18...that should be left to the clubs. raves are places for the PLUR vibes to be experienced at their fullest, and it's hard to promote this, while you have kids being carded at the door, restricted from a night of wikid music, great people, and the oh-so-necessary dancing, just because they're not yet 18. about two months ago, i was at a party where a guy, about 25 years old, was freaking out from his drugs, and a little boy and girl, maybe 14-15 years old, spent about an hour helping him out and calming him down. he was ready to call an ambulance to the party...the kids just calmed him down, gave him water, and he was fine. turned out it was his first e...the rush scared him. it seems as tho many of you who are promoting this 18+ deal are also those tho claim not to have partied until you were 18+. i think that by not being in the scene when you were younger, you are missing much of what it means to a 16 year old kid, ostrasized in school and every other element of social life, to step into a rave, where he or she is (ideally) confronted with love and the feeling of finally finding a place where they're comfortable. i have been partying since my early high school days, and i must say, the experience is one which i cannot imagine surviving without. i definately spent many nights hunny-toasted, and my parents certainly went thru nights of wondering whether i'd come home on two feet in the morning. but i did...and each experience has made me what i am today. i did not flunk out of high school...i made it into a great university, where i remain today. the case may not be the same for everyone who starts their partying in high school...but it's their choice to make. having said this, i realize that there are many of you who just don't enjoy the presence of the younger, (higher?) kids, whose parents break up the parties. fair enuf...go ahead and limit your parties to 18+. but realize that in doing this, you are reconstructing the essence of raving, and creating a new culture of your own. hugs n' fuzzies, :O)cortleigh --- Space201@aol.com wrote: > Fine, do your 18+ parties people, but face the facts, you will STILL get > an > overdose or 2. If you're doing an 18+ event to stop overdosing, you are > WRONG. But if you are doing it to DECREASE the overdoses, hey, you just > may > be onto something here. > Good luck. > > In a message dated 5/24/99 5:39:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > lxc_2@yahoo.com > writes: > > << i totally agree that parties should be 18+. it's shocking to see 18- > kids so fucked up they can't stand up or open their eyes. >> > === From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 01:39:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8562 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 01:39:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 8554 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 01:39:51 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 01:39:51 -0000 Received: from Tekno313@aol.com (8062) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3QBCa02627 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 21:37:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Tekno313@aol.com Message-ID: <1bd41fd4.247b58c0@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:37:04 EDT Subject: Re: you're killing the rave scene To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/24/99 3:08:38 PM, dj_hak@hotmail.com writes: <> It died a long time ago...some of you were at the wake, more of you went to the funeral, but almost all of you continue to celebrate the putrification; like some drug induced Dia de los Muertos... Will there be a resurrection? monty luke http://www.justiceleague.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 01:47:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12818 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 01:47:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 12794 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 01:47:41 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 01:47:41 -0000 Received: from GParry1925@aol.com (303) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vFVKa02708 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 21:47:03 -0400 (EDT) From: GParry1925@aol.com Message-ID: <1c9cc413.247b5b16@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:47:02 EDT Subject: Re: 18+ parties To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.6 for Mac Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Sorry, maybe you people just didn't hear me. ************************************************ Maybe we should stop complaining about vibes that dissipate into the rafters at Home Base, "ghetto" people, and irresponsible kids causing trouble, and actually try to exercise some influence over who goes to parties. The issue is not age (necessarily), generalized/stereotyped bad people or whatever, but the plain and simple fact that the wrong people are hearing about the parties. I'm sorry but in every group you try to keep out of a party you will lose a few (very few in some cases) people who would be valulable to the scene. The solution in to promote parties on an individual, person to person level. Forget the flyers, internet postings and radio ads, if you want decent people at your party and not dirty fuckers who are going to mess things up, let the good people know and not the bad people. I understand that this is much harder in practice, and of course you will end up with a few undesirables, but all in all you end up with a much better bunch of people. No, you won't get as many new people as you would otherwise, but you'd get a much lower percentage of new people you don't want. Besides, the scene has been growing far too quickly anyway. I've stopped going to larger and more promoted parties all together because the "new and interesting people who give life energy to a constantly evolving scene" are more and more often worthless and pathetic people (Yes I know this is harsh) who just detract from the party. Whether it's cheerleading squads (please don't accuse me of inaccurately stereotyping here) or thugs starting fights, the crowd at over promoted parties is getting worse and worse. What makes me mad is that there are a few of us kids who can handle ourselves and do not behave foolishly on drugs. Hell, I don't even use drugs. Please people, the solution is not 18+ or 21+ parties. There are bad people of all ages (definitlely more young ones I will admit) that can be weeded out if you actually try. The scene is what you make of it. Anyone agree with me and wanna throw a party? Owen From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 01:50:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14306 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 01:50:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 14295 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 01:50:13 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 01:50:13 -0000 Received: from WizardCCCA@aol.com (7995) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vZICa02623 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 21:48:15 -0400 (EDT) From: WizardCCCA@aol.com Message-ID: <43ecc097.247b5b5d@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:48:13 EDT Subject: DUNE To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Can anyone give me info on this? I looked it up on the calender and it isn't posted. I think I heard that Paul Van Dyk is going to be there?? Can someone help me out? Thanks, Liz From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 01:53:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15913 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 01:53:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 15905 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 01:53:54 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 01:53:54 -0000 Received: from FReShKiD7@aol.com (14376) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vRVSa14682; Mon, 24 May 1999 21:52:32 -0400 (EDT) From: FReShKiD7@aol.com Message-ID: <5f1ef648.247b5c5e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:52:30 EDT Subject: Re: DUNE?? THIS WEEKEND ? To: WizardCCCA@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 86 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk is dune this weekend ?? because i herd there is A MoonTribe Desert Party in SO CAL this weekend ???? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 01:56:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17181 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 01:56:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 17172 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 01:56:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO osiris.vegasquick.com) (root@209.101.75.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 01:56:09 -0000 Received: from seker (seker.socalraves.com [209.101.75.16] (may be forged)) by osiris.vegasquick.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA17997; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:54:45 -0700 From: "Vegas Rick" To: , Subject: RE: DUNE Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 18:39:58 -0700 Message-ID: <004a01bea64f$7f712020$104b65d1@t2000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <43ecc097.247b5b5d@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk www.dunefestival.com www.dunefestival.com www.dunefestival.com www.dunefestival.com www.dunefestival.com www.dunefestival.com www.dunefestival.com www.dunefestival.com Do people have it now? > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of WizardCCCA@aol.com > Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 6:48 PM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: DUNE > > > Can anyone give me info on this? I looked it up on the calender > and it isn't > posted. I think I heard that Paul Van Dyk is going to be there?? > Can someone > help me out? > > Thanks, > Liz > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 01:57:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18109 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 01:57:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 18068 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 01:57:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO osiris.vegasquick.com) (root@209.101.75.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 01:57:22 -0000 Received: from seker (seker.socalraves.com [209.101.75.16] (may be forged)) by osiris.vegasquick.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA18022 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:56:40 -0700 From: "Vegas Rick" To: "'Sfraves@hyperreal. org'" Subject: Dune info at www.dunefestival.com Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 18:41:51 -0700 Message-ID: <004d01bea64f$c2e27200$104b65d1@t2000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk There. --Vegas Rick There is a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 02:01:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20945 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 02:01:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 20877 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 02:01:09 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd95.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.159) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 02:01:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 25951 invoked by uid 0); 25 May 1999 02:02:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525020239.25950.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 153.37.197.136 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 24 May 1999 19:02:38 PDT X-Originating-IP: [153.37.197.136] From: "dj _haK" To: rick@lasvegas.net, dj_hak@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: you're killing the rave scene Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:02:38 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk first off, teens did not create this culture, they were to busy in 88 playing with my little pony and nintendo. the druggies should stay home. finally, if it's the teens vibrant energy that is pushing the rave scene past boundries, how come they are always lying on the floor fucked up, rolling in nasty ass 2nd/jackson shit? dude wake up. teens emulate whatever is going on at the moment; and the moment is drugs @ raves. don't be blind. just look at the situation around you. hak ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Vegas Rick" To: "dj _haK" , Subject: RE: you're killing the rave scene Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:31:11 -0700 Since when are orgies and OD'ing exclusive to teenagers? No one throws a party thinking "Yeah. We're gonna have a phat lineup that will make kids kill themselves." It's a side-effect of the party. They don't need to go their to do drugs, they can and will do them anywhere. It is the teenagers that give the scene its influx of energy and new styles and such. Without them the scene would be dead because the older people get tired of it or whatever and move on. It is their new blood that keep it evolving and moving and in the spirit of what it first started in. Teens should have access to the culture they are creating, if they don't have it, then they will create another one somewhere where they can do the same types of things. And then the rave scene will be truly dead. --Vegas Rick It takes considerable knowledge just to recognize the extent of your own ignorance. > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of dj _haK > Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 4:08 PM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: you're killing the rave scene > > > what's wrong with the scene? after reading the post about > 'children of the > sun'; i feel sick to my stomach. > all the so called 'underground' rave parties are just a facade > for mad drug > orgies with 12-16 year old kids as the main clients! that is so > phucked up > beyond belief. > do any of you promoters have any shame? or is the dollar stronger than a > 15yr olds life? when some 14 yr old dies from an OD, you can bet > '20/20' or > 'dateline' or any of the media will through a negative slant on the scene > and we'll all lose out. > no one; save the parents, can make the choice for anyone under 18 > legally. > hell anyone under 18 can't even go to an 'R' movie. > the line is crossed, promoters need to make parties 18 over; end of story. > otherwise the rave scene is dead. > > hak > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 02:08:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24264 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 02:08:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 24255 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 02:08:06 -0000 Received: from x15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 02:08:06 -0000 Received: (from elias_smith@juno.com) by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EBE9H5JR; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:07:56 EDT To: leslie.ayres@excite.com, tonicbond@aol.com, space201@aol.com, bigm009@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 05:25:01 -0700 Subject: Re: 18+ parties - solutions? Message-ID: <19990505.052503.-224817.0.Elias_Smith@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,3-4,7-9,11,13-14,20-21,23-24,27-74 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Darth Galen Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk err.. If peeps over 18 want to party in a more mature setting, there is no problem with that. But that is of course up to the party-goer and promoter. That's your choice. But instead of excluding younger kids, let's think of how to eduacate them. Raves are about awareness in my book, and it is a good oportunity to teach people ideas and all sorts of fun wonderful things!! So what say, DRUG AWARENESS? A familiar topic, I believe. Drug Awareness booths are good ideas, but not everybody is gonna take the time to visit one. So go on a limb here promoters! The same way you promote your party you can also inform. Here's a couple random ideas... -VOICE MAIL. State all the dangers of the possible drugs the kids are going to consume that night. Go through the whole list of 'em. You can even do this before giving out directions the night of. If every promoter did this, the message would surely get out. Oh sure, kids would get sick of hearing about all the possible dangers of drugs, but by that point, it would be imprinted. -FLYERS. How many flyers have you got that were blank on one side? That blank side could be used for something. Use your imagination. Or you could even try handing a pamphlet out at the door. If there is enough time to search kids and deal with collecting tix, hand a pamphlet to every one that enters. Use your imagination! Eduacate, don't eliminate. (That sucked, sorry.) -g <<-MegaHertZ->> <> http://www.MHz.nu 415-395-8448 We eduacate candy ravers at breakfast... or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 02:11:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26783 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 02:11:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 26775 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 02:11:15 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd127.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.191) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 02:11:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 97118 invoked by uid 0); 25 May 1999 02:08:43 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525020843.97117.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 153.37.197.136 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 24 May 1999 19:08:42 PDT X-Originating-IP: [153.37.197.136] From: "dj _haK" To: BBoiBreks@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: you're killing the rave scene Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:08:42 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk dude, are you the OG idiot on the list? i said: anyone under 18 is NOT legally responsible for their actions: their parents are. that's a good way to kill off the 'scene' when some overzealous mom is pissed cause her 14 yr old daughter was 'raped'/od'd/robbed at a party. 18 and over the peeps are on there own. it's not cool for anyone to od, but shit, at least adults have the 'maturity' (as per the law), to make their choices. fool. hak ----Original Message Follows---- From: BBoiBreks@aol.com To: dj_hak@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: you're killing the rave scene Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:42:33 EDT So in otherwords, having an 18 year old o/d is better than having a 14 o/d? Yeah, really. It would make all of our lives easier wouldn't it? the facetious bboibreks w/o a clue of whatthehellisgoingon bboibreks From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 02:13:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28075 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 02:13:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 28066 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 02:13:38 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 02:13:38 -0000 Received: from WizardCCCA@aol.com (7995) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vWUPa29725 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:12:11 -0400 (EDT) From: WizardCCCA@aol.com Message-ID: <4d3cda40.247b60f7@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:12:07 EDT Subject: Dune...again... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk *CRIES* NOOO!!!!!!!!!! Its in So-Cal!!!!!!! AHHHH!!!!! *sobs uncontrollably on the floor* Liz From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 02:16:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29566 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 02:16:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 29558 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 02:16:41 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 02:16:41 -0000 Received: from GParry1925@aol.com (301) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPUEa02108 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:15:06 -0400 (EDT) From: GParry1925@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:15:05 EDT Subject: Re: Re: 18+ parties - solutions? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.6 for Mac Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think Galen's got a damned good point. Most of the kids are attacted to the image and everything associated with it (hmmm... like DRUGS maybe?) If we apply enough pressure I'm sure we could get them to behave. Of course we can't turn them into people we would genuinely want at a party but keeping them in line would reduce OD's and other such problems. Ehh? Owen From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 02:24:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4244 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 02:24:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 4233 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 02:24:25 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd116.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.180) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 02:24:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 14159 invoked by uid 0); 25 May 1999 02:23:58 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525022358.14158.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 153.37.197.136 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 24 May 1999 19:23:56 PDT X-Originating-IP: [153.37.197.136] From: "dj _haK" To: glowin_e@hotmail.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: you're killing the rave scene Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:23:56 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i think YOUR fucked up on E right now, and your trying to convince yourself that what is going on is right. the comedown sucks. hak ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Cara Allen" To: dj_hak@hotmail.com Subject: RE: you're killing the rave scene Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:18:02 PDT :*:i think your lying to YOURSELF or trying to convince yourself your right:*:* cArA >From: "dj _haK" >To: rick@lasvegas.net, dj_hak@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: you're killing the rave scene >Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:02:38 PDT > >first off, teens did not create this culture, they were to busy in 88 playing with my little pony and nintendo. the druggies should stay home. finally, if it's the teens vibrant energy that is pushing the rave scene past boundries, how come they are always lying on the floor fucked up, rolling in nasty ass 2nd/jackson shit? >dude wake up. teens emulate whatever is going on at the moment; and the moment is drugs @ raves. > >don't be blind. just look at the situation around you. > >hak >----Original Message Follows---- >From: "Vegas Rick" >To: "dj _haK" , >Subject: RE: you're killing the rave scene >Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:31:11 -0700 > >Since when are orgies and OD'ing exclusive to teenagers? No one throws a >party thinking "Yeah. We're gonna have a phat lineup that will make kids >kill themselves." It's a side-effect of the party. They don't need to go >their to do drugs, they can and will do them anywhere. > >It is the teenagers that give the scene its influx of energy and new styles >and such. Without them the scene would be dead because the older people get >tired of it or whatever and move on. It is their new blood that keep it >evolving and moving and in the spirit of what it first started in. > >Teens should have access to the culture they are creating, if they don't >have it, then they will create another one somewhere where they can do the >same types of things. And then the rave scene will be truly dead. > >--Vegas Rick >It takes considerable knowledge just to recognize the extent of your own >ignorance. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > > Behalf Of dj _haK > > Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 4:08 PM > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Subject: you're killing the rave scene > > > > > > what's wrong with the scene? after reading the post about > > 'children of the > > sun'; i feel sick to my stomach. > > all the so called 'underground' rave parties are just a facade > > for mad drug > > orgies with 12-16 year old kids as the main clients! that is so > > phucked up > > beyond belief. > > do any of you promoters have any shame? or is the dollar stronger than a > > 15yr olds life? when some 14 yr old dies from an OD, you can bet > > '20/20' or > > 'dateline' or any of the media will through a negative slant on the scene > > and we'll all lose out. > > no one; save the parents, can make the choice for anyone under 18 > > legally. > > hell anyone under 18 can't even go to an 'R' movie. > > the line is crossed, promoters need to make parties 18 over; end of story. > > otherwise the rave scene is dead. > > > > hak > > > > > > > > > > > :*:i think your lying to YOURSELF or trying to convince yourself your right:*:* cArA >From: "dj _haK" >To: rick@lasvegas.net, dj_hak@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: you're killing the rave scene >Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:02:38 PDT > >first off, teens did not create this culture, they were to busy in 88 playing with my little pony and nintendo. the druggies should stay home. finally, if it's the teens vibrant energy that is pushing the rave scene past boundries, how come they are always lying on the floor fucked up, rolling in nasty ass 2nd/jackson shit? >dude wake up. teens emulate whatever is going on at the moment; and the moment is drugs @ raves. > >don't be blind. just look at the situation around you. > >hak >----Original Message Follows---- >From: "Vegas Rick" >To: "dj _haK" , >Subject: RE: you're killing the rave scene >Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:31:11 -0700 > >Since when are orgies and OD'ing exclusive to teenagers? No one throws a >party thinking "Yeah. We're gonna have a phat lineup that will make kids >kill themselves." It's a side-effect of the party. They don't need to go >their to do drugs, they can and will do them anywhere. > >It is the teenagers that give the scene its influx of energy and new styles >and such. Without them the scene would be dead because the older people get >tired of it or whatever and move on. It is their new blood that keep it >evolving and moving and in the spirit of what it first started in. > >Teens should have access to the culture they are creating, if they don't >have it, then they will create another one somewhere where they can do the >same types of things. And then the rave scene will be truly dead. > >--Vegas Rick >It takes considerable knowledge just to recognize the extent of your own >ignorance. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > > Behalf Of dj _haK > > Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 4:08 PM > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Subject: you're killing the rave scene > > > > > > what's wrong with the scene? after reading the post about > > 'children of the > > sun'; i feel sick to my stomach. > > all the so called 'underground' rave parties are just a facade > > for mad drug > > orgies with 12-16 year old kids as the main clients! that is so > > phucked up > > beyond belief. > > do any of you promoters have any shame? or is the dollar stronger than a > > 15yr olds life? when some 14 yr old dies from an OD, you can bet > > '20/20' or > > 'dateline' or any of the media will through a negative slant on the scene > > and we'll all lose out. > > no one; save the parents, can make the choice for anyone under 18 > > legally. > > hell anyone under 18 can't even go to an 'R' movie. > > the line is crossed, promoters need to make parties 18 over; end of story. > > otherwise the rave scene is dead. > > > > hak > > > > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 02:42:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15613 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 02:42:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 15604 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 02:42:44 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 02:42:44 -0000 Received: from Kitana3737@aol.com (7983) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNJPa08612 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:40:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Kitana3737@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:40:51 EDT Subject: the age thing... again. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yet again i couldn`t keep silent :) with age comes experience. and undeniably, with experience comes maturity. even i, as 2 months away from the ripe old age of 18, realize this. with age, also comes a tendency to look at those younger than you and view them with a different lens, perhaps an exaggerated sense of maturity? when we are in the present, the issues we deal with seem of import to us. we have matters that require our attention, we have situations we stress about. as we grow older, we see the situations that those younger than us are dealing with, and i think in our minds we unintentionally scoff at what seems of import to them. you know? not that i`m "so mature" or anything of the sort, but when i see the freshmen in my dorm [i go to boarding school] run around getting excited about school dances, etc. i look at them with a sense of endearment, also wondering how i ever was the same teenybopper excited about the same sort of things. i think its undeniable that younger people are concerned with different issues than older ones. through adolescence, its impossible to deny that image and experimentation make up the bulk of this age-range`s experience. people mature at different rates, i`ll grant you that, but there`s nothing one can do to fast forward the years and gain the inevitable experience that comes with time. i think i might be one of the few under minors that would support an 18+ scene. i don`t know if an 18+ scene is realistic, nor can i ensure that it can be enforced, but i do think that there`s something to be said of how our youth seems to be maturing at a much faster rate than the youth of the past. i see 8-year olds now concerned with how they dress or ten year olds even smoking, when at that age i was still carefree and running around in my pink jeans, you know? when will that stop escalation of social awareness at earlier ages stop?? it might be hypocritical of me to support an 18+ scene, since i started raving a year shy of that limit, i can say that it could have waited. there seems to be an unending thirst at my age as well as into the early twenties i think, to want to appear jaded. to have that "been there, done that" attitude, to have experienced all and appear tired and bored with what life has to offer. and i happen to stand entirely against this. although raving has been a huge catalyst in my life for change, and although it has shifted my mentality more than anything else i`ve ever experience, i can say that this change could have waited a year. and perhaps i would have delved into this community with different eyes and a little more experience behind me to have added to my perspicacity. you won`t see me as a pacifier-chomping, eyes-rolling, "i love you, i feel so good"-proclaiming girl running around a party right now. and i now can see the difference between those who evoke false, chemical-induced emotions and those who can dance all night running on pure, natural energy and excitement, it was a difference i had to go through myself before i could realize it. perhaps if started even a mere year later, i woudln`t have had to undergo the metamorphosis before i was able to see it. and this change that i now have behind me. i guess its something that i`m sad to say i`ve been through already. being young is something you can never take back. the excitement i once had for school-dances and the like.... if i could take it back, i would for all the world. having innocence is something no one should be trying to scrape off of them, although it seems to be a general characteristic of adolescents at all times. so i guess all i have to say is, if an 18+ cap would discourage the under-age crowd from growing jaded earlier and seeing these things at a younger age, then i`m all for it. i think it would do so much good as a whole.... and if it can stave off the awareness of how messed up some things in life really are just that much more, then i think it would be invaluable. but i`m only speaking from what my own experience has had to prove. it`s always different for other people.... muchlove, ~*MicHeLLe*~ ps - i have been to an 18+ club once. [buzz in DC before it closed] and the difference between this 18+ crowd and an all ages one-off was starkly visible. i`m sure drug usage was as rampant in this crowd, but it was much more under control. i saw less people rolling all over the ground, or approaching me clearly under chemically-induced emotions..... i think i can say the difference can be attributed to the age difference as opposed to a bay-area <--> washington DC difference. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 02:43:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16385 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 02:43:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 16377 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 02:43:53 -0000 Received: from web902.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.77) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 02:43:53 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525024136.390.rocketmail@web902.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.233.16.87] by web902.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 24 May 1999 19:41:36 PDT Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:41:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Johnathan Flight Subject: DUNE To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk woah. is it just me or have they really shifted the image of their event... from a 600 person free party to a huge $20 circus... fully equiped w/ law enforcement and all... gee, this has never happened before. ;) --jf From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 03:00:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28296 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 03:00:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 28266 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 03:00:24 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 03:00:24 -0000 Received: from Abbo1234@aol.com (8011) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vKQGa01220; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:59:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Abbo1234@aol.com Message-ID: <3eb670e2.247b6c0e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:59:26 EDT Subject: Re: 18+ parties - solutions? To: GParry1925@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/24/99 7:16:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, GParry1925@aol.com writes: << the kids are attacted to the image and everything associated with it (hmmm... like DRUGS maybe?) >> Why does everybody assume that if you are under 18 the only reason that you are going to a rave is to do drugs? I enjoy parting sober so thats how I go, sober. The reason I go to raves is for the wonderful music and the wonderful, mostly accepting people. Abby From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 03:08:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2935 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 03:08:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 2918 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 03:08:28 -0000 Received: from law-f226.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.164) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 03:08:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 76184 invoked by uid 0); 25 May 1999 03:08:01 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525030801.76183.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 170.20.137.132 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:08:00 PDT X-Originating-IP: [170.20.137.132] From: "Alknod !" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 18+ parties Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:08:00 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk First of all, have any of you been getting double email scripts like I have? Would that be a hotmail screwup? With that aside I too have been reading all the postings and concerns about this issue of the under 18 crowd being alloud to attend and participate in this rave scene that we all share a responcibility for. Let me re-type that again, THAT WE ALL SHARE A RESPONCIBILITY FOR. I am by inlarge seeing that we care about our scene enough for discussion but are these comments really leeding to a solution? Are the promoters of this list watching carefully to these reactions as a result of what happened last Friday night? Or is all this disscussion falling upon a deaf ear? There are solutions to the problems but I believe that simply not allowing the under 18 crowd to participate is no longer an option. Why do I say this? We had a chance a while back, in the beginning to keep this scene at an 18+ level but decided that this should be a scene for the people reguardless of age, race etc.. As a result a large makeup of the scene is under aged. They are as much a part of this scene as the DJs are necessary for the music. That energy they bring is vital to any vibe though I am sure there are the occasional 18+ parties that are pretty vibey. I still don't seem to be making myself clear here, if we place further restrictions on the under 18 crowd, it will NOT KEEP THEM OUT! If there is a way to get into a party 18 or not, it will be found out and I know for a fact that this scene, our scene has a fairly large under 18 population. I have had many a day to hang out with these kids and most of them are really smart, it is the minority of those who aren't too bright that are ruining it for the rest of crowd. All I am saying is that there is enough regulation on their lives already, why make it even harder for them to find a relaxing environment in which to wind down? Has anyone here seen "Pleasantville?" The opening scene to which spells out how fucked up this planet really is that they have inhereited from us. Its a great all around film, you wanna talk about stereotypes! What can we learn from the European scene, they seem to be going along just fine without any sort of age regualtion, but over there, you can drink at the age of 18. I should know, I was born there. So why is this such a big deal here in Cali? I agree about seeing the kids who are doing more drugs than I have ever done in my lifetime, one has to ask what exactly are they escaping from? Or simply put, why? I believe the answer lies in the parent/child relationship, if its a good one, then there really should be no problem, as long as the lines of communication are always wide open between the two. My mother is one of my best friends, we talk about everything, as a result, I felt no need to keep anything I did from her. Well, I still keep a few small details to myself but thats a part of growing up. Uh, thought I would program a small break into my diatribe of the downfall of society. Where is the problem? As one post has already clearly put it, it stems from what we as adults teach our children and I would add how our actions influance and shape them. If done correctly, and I am not trying to say there is one correct way here because there is not (as individual as you are), a child can grow with the scene without ever encountering the drug aspect untill he/she was ready for it, another aspect of life that cannot be regulated. We are all ready for certain things at different ages and levels in life. Some grow up earlier some don't, it is the responcibility of the parent to recogise exactly when a child is ready to stay out all night, are they respocible enough, can the parent trust in thier child enough to let them go to an all nighter? Or even to go to one till late then come home or even to be picked up from the event? It does happen folks and I have seen it. Responcible kids and very smart Parents, who sometimes even come to the raves to experiance them together. This is what is right and good about having the under 18 crowd here, active participation at all levels and knowledge enough to make it work. That is what I am talking about, and that is what I see more and more these days. So please think twice about placing further restrictions based upon age because know one knows when you were ready or not to attend these things, and to have another barrior I think would only hurt what we have achieved already. In case you were wondering, my mother told me about the scene although she does not participate in it whatsoever. She likes classical music, so do I but she reallly likes the stuff. And I did not start going till I was in college in 91. Thats when she told me about it. Besides, I was too busy in Highschool trying to get out to college to be interested in much else. Davis sucks for kids, great for Parents! Just a thought, hope you made it through in one piece. Dj Alex Van Dune. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 03:27:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13833 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 03:27:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 13802 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 03:27:20 -0000 Received: from dilbert.ucdavis.edu (root@169.237.105.33) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 03:27:20 -0000 Received: from localhost (ez053642@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dilbert.ucdavis.edu (8.9.3/UCD3.13.10) with ESMTP id UAA06869 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:27:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Terri Young X-Sender: ez053642@dilbert.ucdavis.edu To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: 18+ parties Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OK I can't stay quiet anymore. It's a long one, guys. Yeah, obviously the rave scene is dead when all anyone can come up with to solve a problem is by eliminating a contingent of people. Boy, does that sound familiar? How many times are we going to turn our backs on problems by simply making things inaccessible to others we deem unworthy or too much trouble???????? I am sick and tired of hearing about what a pain in the ass the 18 and unders are WITHOUT hearing about any viable alternatives for these kids. Without somewhere to go, without something to do, these kids won't be in any less trouble. They will simply be out of *your* hair for the night (and in someone else's, or maybe even taking up police time that we get to pay for anyway). I really have to agree with Galen's post: instead of eliminating, let's try helping some people out!! Is the younger generation really not worth our time and effort? Why can't we put some energy into helping these kids establish themselves in a cruel society? That's really why I started raving, because of the community. And, I'm sorry, without the elders AND the youngers, our community crumbles and we become lost (sounds like some of you already have!). No community can thrive on age bias. Drug education is a good thing and I think we should support it at raves, however, I honestly don't think ignorance is driving kids to do drugs. They hear the whole story all the time. Why the hell are they doing so many drugs is the question. What the fuck is happening to the self-esteem of these kids to make them care so little about what they do to themselves? Well, certainly kicking them out of the rave scene is not going to make their esteem any better, and they will just find something else to abuse - just like their adult counterparts do when they kick one habit for another. Speaking in terms of smaller, more intimate gatherings: How about things like Big Brother/Big Sister programs where older ravers hook up with younger ravers as a support system? I know people have talked about this before. Maybe even have 18+ raves where younger kids HAVE to bring a Big Sibling raver with them. I always keep an eye on my lil raver brothers and sisters - I challenge you all to try helping these kids out rather than kick them out. What about trying to help kids communicate to their parents what a rave is really like by having a "bring your parents" party - I bet kids are far less likely to do drugs with their parents around ; ) And parents need some exposure anyway, to at least help allay fears perpetuated by propaganda. I have seen wonderful things happen with kids and their parents at parties. We're not so scary!! And, what happened to the drug-free parties??? Those are a start too, to help kids get into the real spirit of raving: community celebration. Come on, guys, this is a problem our whole society refuses to solve. "What to do with kids." I challenge you all to take some accountability for your younger brothers and sisters, for your daughters and your sons...to help them grow rather than abandon them to a careless world. In hak's words, "don't be blind, just look at the situation around you" and, I might add, look beyond your own doorstep for a solution. I'm out. ~buglady~ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 03:27:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13930 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 03:27:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 13822 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 03:27:23 -0000 Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.12) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 03:27:23 -0000 Received: from [209.179.140.122] (pool122-cvx.ds49-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.140.122]) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA01289 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:27:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: radley@mail.elemental.nu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:28:26 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Radley Marx Subject: NRR: color flyer printing/prices Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > >Can anyone give me some information on local outfits >that print rave type color fliers? I'm throwing a >small party for which i've created double sided full >color postcard size flyers and i need to have around >100 printed. The files are in Photoshop format (CMYK). >Any tips/recommendations or pricing information would >be appreciated. > For a run that small your only choice is Kinko's. -r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 03:43:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22110 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 03:43:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 22081 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 03:43:16 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 03:43:16 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com (2613) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id hIFNa02742; Mon, 24 May 1999 23:40:08 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: <5dc85606.247b7598@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 23:40:08 EDT Subject: Re: 18+ parties To: tyyoung@ucdavis.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Wow, thank you... it's nice to know someone shares the same opinion as me. 18+ parties would probably work, but that wont solve all your problems people will still O.D, in fact the people I know who do the most drugs are over 18. I think that a kid/parent party would be fun... lol i'd love to see my mom dance to hak & siphon... but what is really sad is I usually end up being the big brother to my older friends telling them later that u did too much of this or that and I dont wanna party with you anymore if your just gonna sit down the whole night rollin. thanx for givin us a chance, matt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 03:48:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24094 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 03:48:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 24085 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 03:48:20 -0000 Received: from www.concourse.net (HELO mail.concourse.net) (209.63.66.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 03:48:20 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (209.63.66.106) by mail.concourse.net with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Mon, 24 May 1999 19:53:15 -0800 Message-ID: <374A1CE0.4B51B30E@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:45:36 -0700 From: Paul Sober X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SF Raves Subject: buh bye Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i'm leaving for less cluttered email boxes, it was nice chatting with, and meeting some of you. if anyone knows of any other lists that are more music related rather then drama related, i'd appreciate a little heads up. thanks paul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 03:55:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28653 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 03:55:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 28639 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 03:55:08 -0000 Received: from ns.ultimanet.com (HELO iceberg.ultimanet.com) (205.179.129.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 03:55:08 -0000 Received: from [205.179.129.9] (sprout.ultimanet.com [205.179.129.9]) by iceberg.ultimanet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA13711; Mon, 24 May 1999 21:11:06 -0700 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990525012248.23194.rocketmail@web123.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:58:11 -0700 To: "li'l one" From: terry estioko Subject: Re: 18+ parties - go to The Edge Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi all- I too have been going through these posts, and I'm impressed to see such "consciousness" arise on this list lately. The 18+ issue is very important, and I'm glad it's getting discussed. My $.02 are below, and they are not directed at "li'l one" personally, I'm just using her post as a template since I don't have time to write one from scratch. >i've been reading these all day, and all i have to say, at this >frusterated point, is that taking the kids out of the parties is not going >result in fewer OD's, nor will is create a better vibe. It is true that drugs and "vibe" know no age at raves, so one could deduct that those under 18 are not more responsible than their older counterpoints. However,with the addition of some legal aspects, I believe those under 18 are* far more detrimental* to raves than legal adults. Those under 18 have these things called "parents". And these parents are legally responsible for their children. While some children are quite mature for their age, there is a reason why kids cannot enter into contracts, purchase cigarettes and alcohol, and enter certain establishments. I find it amazing that a 15 year old can't go to the liquor store and buy a beer, but can sneak out of house, go to a rave and get whatever "drug of choice" they want. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember seeing kids at raves in the early and mid 90's. Now I see them everywhere. >yes, it would stop >moms from chasing buses to parties - but i am yet to be convinced that >this is a continuously pressing problem. I can tell you that behind the scenes this is a "pressing problem". For every minor-related overdose, accident, death, or other tragic event that happens at raves, there are a growing number of opponents/moms/pissed-off people in general that have taken arms against the rave scene. Do you think these parents forget? I don't think think so, in fact, I believe they have every right be as pissed off as they want. It's not a matter of "they don't understand....they can't understand". It's a matter of their children being influenced by an outside culture with a dangerous lifestyle. All without their consent, or even knowledge. And this incident at COTS last weekend is not an isolated event that gained parental attention, There have been numerous similar events in the last few months where minors safety have been compromised. Although some are better at keeping it quiet than others. Thanks Isaac for being so forthcoming with your statement. Are you so naive to believe that the "goings-on" at raves are so secret, or unspoken? From my experience working with the local police department, I can tell you that they not only know, but talk about all the shit that happens at raves. And not just the police, but public officials and constituents as well. Do you believe that the permit process in Oakland is not currently under scrutiny? And many other cities across the world as well? That nobody notices or is affected by those big giant parties that bring in a couple ambulances every weekend? All this is happening, right here, right now. And only after it's gone will we have said that we should have taken a closer look into the problem. > the younger kids are the most >beautiful part of the scene, i think - certainly not when they're going >into seizures on the street or in front of the dj, but definatetly when >they bring in their fresh vibes and dance around like little spaztik >elmos. I agree that the younger crowd is a part of the lifeblood of the rave scene. But I also believe that the "younger crowd" consists of those in the ages of 18-21. I find no redeeming value in a child high on drugs running around a warehouse in the middle of the night. Perhaps for you it might be entertaining, but hardly inspirational. I would also argue that the contribution that these young, energetic, enthusiastic kids should be making is in their studies and personal development, so that later in life they will have something much more valuable to offer the scene. As a child there is little to contribute other than being financially supportive at the door and participative on the dance floor. However, as successful adults they will have far more power, and options, to do whatever they want in life, raves or not. Raves can wait. High School only happens once (well, more for some). And the course that young people choose at this point in their life will set the stage for everything they will encounter later in life. So I say, study first, rave later. there are enuf places that restrict people under 18...that should >be left to the clubs. raves are places for the PLUR vibes to be >experienced at their fullest, and it's hard to promote this, while you >have kids being carded at the door, restricted from a night of wikid >music, great people, and the oh-so-necessary dancing, just because they're >not yet 18. I'm so thankful that I didn't get into raves until I was in college. If I did my life would have surely turned out differently, and for the worse. My life rocks, and it's because so much of it was invested into academic enrichment (well, actually my parents were really strict, but now I love them for that) And now as a "academically enriched" adult, I have real choices in life, and I choose to support the rave scene. And that's why I work where I work and live where I live. Because I had the *option* to do this. But surely, if I got into "party mode" when I was still laying down my academic foundation, I would be nowhere near where I am today. At 18, I was on a skateboard most of the time (when I wasn't studying), I wouldn't get wasted because then I couldn't compete and I'd lose my sponsorship. I think I learned a lot more from skating that I would have from "raving" in high school. Of course I'm not saying that you all should become skaters, just that it would be good to do a "reality check" from time to time and see if you're on the right track, and if you're truly benefitting from the effort you're putting out in life. And as far as "PLUR vibes" at parties, the only PLUR vibes I know of that still exist come from Friends and Family, the Cloudfactory, and closely related crews. >about two months ago, i was at a party where a guy, about 25 >years old, was freaking out from his drugs, and a little boy and girl, >maybe 14-15 years old, spent about an hour helping him out and calming him >down. he was ready to call an ambulance to the party...the kids just >calmed him down, gave him water, and he was fine. turned out it was his >first e...the rush scared him. > The above example is probably true, but only supports the "all ages" issue from a broad sense using inductive reasoning. In order for this specific incident to be more supportive you would need to cite multiple examples ultimately defining a pattern of behavior. Unfortunately, the majority of overdoses that I have seen have involved minors. That's the pattern I see. >it seems as tho many of you who are promoting this 18+ deal are also those >tho claim not to have partied until you were 18+. i think that by not >being in the scene when you were younger, you are missing much of what it >means to a 16 year old kid, ostrasized in school and every other element >of social life, to step into a rave, where he or she is *(ideally)* >confronted with love and the feeling of finally finding a place where >they're comfortable. You said it...."ideally". Unfortunately it's not "ideally" most of the time. In addtion, what you are describing seems more like an "escape" to me. I'm not convinced that "escaping" is the best solution to confrontations in life. In fact, that is usually the cause for much greater problems later in life. >having said this, i realize that there are many of you who just don't >enjoy the presence of the younger, (higher?) kids, whose parents break up >the parties. fair enuf...go ahead and limit your parties to 18+. but >realize that in doing this, you are reconstructing the essence of raving, >and creating a new culture of your own. > >hugs n' fuzzies, >:O)cortleigh Well, I have heard a lot of discussion about 18+ parties from promoters. Whether age restrictions, revised marketing strategies, or some other solution is implemented remains to be seen. And whether or not someone is willing to step up and take a financial hit to make a statement is also questionable. But I am hardly convinced that by removing children (who were never there to begin with) we are "reconstructing the essence of raving". While the essence of raving involves a genuine appreciation and acceptance of everyone as a whole, it also involves a strong responsiblilty to those entering our scene and providing a postive environment in which participants can grow and apply their newfound knowledge within their everyday life. .02 (cha-ching!) -terry ------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@viberation.com http://www.viberation.com/terry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 04:07:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3674 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 04:07:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 3635 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 04:07:02 -0000 Received: from web1004.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.94) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 04:07:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525040701.4128.rocketmail@web1004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.173.238.226] by web1004.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 24 May 1999 21:07:01 PDT Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:07:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Brandon Trumble Subject: its not age its responsibility To: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Despite whether your 18 or not has nothing to do with it. No matter how old you are your going to have limits and the people that O.D. are the greedy ones that try to push their limits to get the best high. Everybody knows that raving and drug use are 2 different things. Raves are a celebration of life, freedom, and music. and like any public gathering let it be a concert, a rave, even a school dance there are going to be people there that are intoxicated and nobody can do anything about that. As rave producers all we can basically do is check them at the door and then put their life in their own hands because what they do they do to themselvs. It all boils down to this know your limits, don't push them, rave safe, and if i may quote F-8's famous prase "LOVE THE MUSIC AND NOT THE DRUGS" And if you still O.D. after reading this I want to say ahead of time !YUR DUM! :D But I love ya anyways! Brandon "KyD" --- AdidasXE7@aol.com wrote: > Wow, thank you... it's nice to know someone shares > the same opinion as me. > 18+ parties would probably work, but that wont solve > all your problems people > will still O.D, in fact the people I know who do the > most drugs are over 18. > I think that a kid/parent party would be fun... lol > i'd love to see my mom > dance to hak & siphon... but what is really sad is I > usually end up being the > big brother to my older friends telling them later > that u did too much of > this or that and I dont wanna party with you anymore > if your just gonna sit > down the whole night rollin. > > thanx for givin us a chance, > matt > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 04:09:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4866 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 04:09:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 4855 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 04:09:50 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 04:09:50 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com (3867) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rVXSa03188; Tue, 25 May 1999 00:08:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: <12aa96dd.247b7c30@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:08:16 EDT Subject: Re: 18+ parties, how To regulate? the point is... To: chrispeee@yahoo.com, jvlavianos@cu-help.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Maybe the answer lies within the ones that are really poisoning the scene. I know you guys all know what and who IM talking about! Maybe they should be ID ing this kids. I don't think they would do that. After all they are drug dealers. 18+ parties are on they way in people sooner then you can imagine. Its already being enforced now. How are the police doing this? They are standing by the doors and selectively ID ing people and have been doing it for about a month or so now! I thought some of you needed to know this seeing how so many of you weren't aware of it. Hope it helps you and the scene out. It's time also to be aware that drug talk on here has got to go. Someone just might be watching you! Someone you may not want in your life! BE AWARE!!! Remember: keep your head up! Have a good day! Hugs*** Jeannie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 04:14:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9236 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 04:14:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 9211 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 04:14:11 -0000 Received: from catbert.ucdavis.edu (root@169.237.105.32) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 04:14:11 -0000 Received: from localhost (sschumac@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by catbert.ucdavis.edu (8.9.3/UCD3.13.10) with ESMTP id VAA14408; Mon, 24 May 1999 21:14:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:14:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Silvia Schumacher X-Sender: sschumac@catbert.ucdavis.edu To: Gammbino@aol.com cc: SFRaves@hyperreal.org, frequency-8@squinky.org Subject: Re: Vaca party - Addendum In-Reply-To: <98a0fb16.247a1301@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey there, May I give my props out to the team that organized this beautiful party and to Mac who did let me know about it??? LOCATION: Some private ranch with the most beautiful location I have ever seen... a small lake, hills forming a natural "dancefloor", a sky that was full of stars and trees all over the place (Oh, I love CA!!! :)))... THE DJ's: Sorry, I forgot some names, but there were plenty of them. All of them kicked ass and made the crowd continuously groove under the sky... Speaking of TELENE, it was the first time for me to listen to that girl-power behind the turntables and I can't wait to see/listen to her again!!! After her some happy hardcore protagonists took over and due to my musical preference , I had to climb up the hill to see how the party looks like from all the way up there :))) and to chat with my friends. The warm wind brought the music even up there and the view was amazing! You missed GREG SANDLER??? Well, you missed the best part of the party!!! At some raves it seems to me that he doesn't get the appreciation he deserves but this time he got and everybody danced the hell out of his ass and I could even people hear yelling while he was spinning a set of techno as its best. Later on I got the pleasure to listen to ANONYMOUS, MICRON and PISTACHIO and since my dedication is TRANCE I have to give some mad props out to them...:))) The best music to listen to while the sun set was coming closer and closer and the new day was being born. Love to you guys because your sets where damn good and you created an epic party experience for me. THE PEOPLE: You guys rock!!! THANX TO EVERYBODY WHO MADE THIS PARTY HAPPEN, WHO GAVE THIS PARTY ITS SPECIAL VIBE AND TO MAC!!! Love, Silvia On Sun, 23 May 1999 Gammbino@aol.com wrote: > Hey everyone lasnights party up in the hills of vacaville AKA cowtown was > cool for the lil party it was The first two DJ's threw it off I'm not sure of > their names =( then around 11:30 Telene!!! came on and started to scratch up > the records!! and then this coo ass girl in baggy jeans and red tank top > danced her heart out. I didn't get to see Greg Sandler,Pistachio,Tracer, and > the others cause I had to leave at 12:30 =( anyways James great party and > congrats to the newly weds!! > > > PLUR > ^v^Kent > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 04:17:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10603 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 04:17:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 10594 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 04:17:48 -0000 Received: from web207.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.107) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 04:17:48 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525041601.23711.rocketmail@web207.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.72.2.172] by web207.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 24 May 1999 21:16:01 PDT Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:16:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Jean-Baptiste Laplace Subject: Y2K Rave To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm just wondering what's the weather usually like during the end of december here in SF? I wondering because, I really would like to see a Major MEGA big Gathering with everybody in the street partying like crazy maniacs, a good vibration running through everybody, a feeling of love and happiness for YEAR 2000. If it's to cold here in SF, I think I'll go to Brazil. Thanks. JB From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 04:23:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12785 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 04:23:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 12777 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 04:23:25 -0000 Received: from f175.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.61) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 04:23:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 60849 invoked by uid 0); 25 May 1999 04:22:58 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525042258.60848.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 152.163.195.179 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 24 May 1999 21:22:56 PDT X-Originating-IP: [152.163.195.179] From: "Rani Skye Lefevre" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Vaca party - Addendum Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:22:56 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey, does anyone know if this is the same location that harmony used for their five year anniversary? love, rani >From: Silvia Schumacher >To: Gammbino@aol.com >CC: SFRaves@hyperreal.org, frequency-8@squinky.org >Subject: Re: Vaca party - Addendum >Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:14:07 -0700 (PDT) > >Hey there, > >May I give my props out to the team that organized this beautiful party >and to Mac who did let me know about it??? > >LOCATION: Some private ranch with the most beautiful location I have ever >seen... a small lake, hills forming a natural "dancefloor", a sky that was >full of stars and trees all over the place (Oh, I love CA!!! :)))... > >THE DJ's: Sorry, I forgot some names, but there were plenty of them. All >of them kicked ass and made the crowd continuously groove under the sky... >Speaking of TELENE, it was the first time for me to listen to that >girl-power behind the turntables and I can't wait to see/listen to her >again!!! After her some happy hardcore protagonists took over and due >to my musical preference rocked as much as the others did, but I just don't like it>, I had to >climb up the hill to see how the party looks like from all the way up >there :))) and to chat with my friends. The warm wind brought the music >even up there and the view was amazing! You missed GREG SANDLER??? Well, >you missed the best part of the party!!! At some raves it seems to me that >he doesn't get the appreciation he deserves but this time he got and >everybody danced the hell out of his ass and I could even people hear >yelling while he was spinning a set of techno as its best. Later on I got >the pleasure to listen to ANONYMOUS, MICRON and PISTACHIO and since my >dedication is TRANCE I have to give some mad props out to them...:))) The >best music to listen to while the sun set was coming closer and closer and >the new day was being born. Love to you guys because your sets where damn >good and you created an epic party experience for me. > >THE PEOPLE: You guys rock!!! > >THANX TO EVERYBODY WHO MADE THIS PARTY HAPPEN, WHO GAVE THIS PARTY ITS >SPECIAL VIBE AND TO MAC!!! > >Love, Silvia > > > > On Sun, 23 May 1999 >Gammbino@aol.com wrote: > > > Hey everyone lasnights party up in the hills of vacaville AKA cowtown >was > > cool for the lil party it was The first two DJ's threw it off I'm not >sure of > > their names =( then around 11:30 Telene!!! came on and started to >scratch up > > the records!! and then this coo ass girl in baggy jeans and red tank top > > danced her heart out. I didn't get to see Greg Sandler,Pistachio,Tracer, >and > > the others cause I had to leave at 12:30 =( anyways James great party >and > > congrats to the newly weds!! > > > > > > PLUR > > ^v^Kent > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 04:24:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13543 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 04:24:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 13522 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 04:24:15 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 04:24:15 -0000 Received: from KaNdeEKlD@aol.com (4532) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3TDNa19484 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 00:23:03 -0400 (EDT) From: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com Message-ID: <4ca2977c.247b7fa6@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:23:02 EDT Subject: 18+ party issues To: SFRAVES@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk First of all this is not a direct strike out to the younger members of our rave community from the older members, more like it's a cry for help...we see our scene going down the gutter. More parties are being regulated, more parties closed down, more kids o d ing on drugs, and more negative police involvement, etc...etc... It's not that we think just because you are under 18 you are doing drugs and fucking it up for all of us, because the reality of it is no, most of the under 18 probably aren't having and direct harm on the scene The problem is that a large majority of the people having a negative effect on our scene are under 18 (to explain that better...these are only made up #'s, not sure of the exact #'s, 50% of our scene is under 18... 50% is 18+.... of the # of people directly harming our scene 85% is under-18 15% is 18+) You see, the general public and the cops, look down more on minors being at parties, minors being out all night, minors doing drugs, and minors o d ing...they care about adults doing these same things but not as much as they care about the minors Being only 19 myself I'm not saying I'm an "adult," I'm only simply stating that I as well as many others are legally allowed to do things that many of you, being under 18 are not. This is not my decision nor yours, It's the decision of our government as well as our general public. In order to save the rave scene, Raving should be added to this list. Technically raves are supposed to be 18+, the permits don't specifically state this, I'm sure many of you remember the Tickle 3 scare, where many rumors were spreading about it being 18+... that's because that's the way they are supposed to be...technically... Anyway everyone, this is just my opinion, I'm not trying to hate on anyone... Many of my friends are 16-17 I don't really want them to be banned from parties, just like I don't like being banned from 21+ clubs, but that's life, one day I'll grow up, be older, and be allowed in, until that day I'll just have to patiently wait just like you... - Jenn From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 04:25:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14553 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 04:25:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 14539 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 04:25:08 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 04:25:08 -0000 Received: from Ninabruja4@aol.com (7986) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id yDHNa19484; Tue, 25 May 1999 00:23:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Ninabruja4@aol.com Message-ID: <69e2abc9.247b7fd5@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:23:49 EDT Subject: (no subject) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org CC: 18+?!?!@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk these messages about being 18+ are really bothering me. last time i checked, a style of music does not discriminate against age. anywhere you go there will be some kids doing drugs or defying their parent. i can go to school and see that! why punish me and several other teens who go to the parties to dance and meet new people!?!?! im almost positive that someone is going to tell me that im not "mature" enough to handle dancing with my friends. what i do know is, i can go to a party, remain completely safe, and then get up and do my homework the next day and handle my responsibilities. i know so many "mature" adults who get cracked out and pass out when they get home and wake up sometime the next afternoon. but whatever....i guess adults will always be oppressive and selfish. sorry for my cynism but my feelings have been hurt. veronica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 04:27:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16192 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 04:27:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 16164 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 04:27:28 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 04:27:28 -0000 Received: from GParry1925@aol.com (300) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vIRFa02108 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 00:26:35 -0400 (EDT) From: GParry1925@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:26:34 EDT Subject: Re: Re: 18+ parties - go to The Edge To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.6 for Mac Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >And the course >that young people choose at this point in their life will set >the stage for >everything they will encounter later in life. So I say, study >first, rave >later. >But surely, >if I got into "party mode" when I was still laying down my >academic >foundation, I would be nowhere near where I am today. Hmm.... I know that I am a rare exception here, but I am actually able to maintain a 4.6 GPA and party. I simply party responsibly. It is possible. I think one big problem with the kids in the scene is that the vast majorit yof them enter the scene through high school drug culture and as a result you rarely see kids who actually have their shit together at parties. Please don't misinterperate this as I "Yes I am so mature enough", it is not. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 04:38:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23658 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 04:38:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 23650 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 04:38:02 -0000 Received: from ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com (HELO mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com) (imail@24.0.0.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 04:38:02 -0000 Received: from C42488-A.pinol1.sfba.home.com ([24.1.2.242]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990525043800.HPXQ20548.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@C42488-A.pinol1.sfba.home.com>; Mon, 24 May 1999 21:38:00 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Geoff Herbst" To: "Johnathan Flight" , Subject: RE: DUNE Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:36:44 -0700 Message-ID: <000701bea668$325392a0$b4570118@C42488-A.pinol1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <19990525024136.390.rocketmail@web902.mail.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk how many Dunes have you been to? Law enforcement has always been invited and encouraged to attend, to show them and the other agencies down there that the dune crew and attendees are responsible, law-abiding people trying to have a good time. the first one may have been free, but dune III was the best $10 I ever spent (still fantasic lineup and the best visuals / sound setup I've ever experieneced outdoors) Dune IV was not $20... they were only able to recover revenue for about 3000 kids although more than 8000 showed up (and got in without paying). I'm sure they are gonna once again blow us away with their visuals they have planned this year, and sound will be great. world class lineup. PS with the extra money they had left from Dune III, (remember it was a $10 party) they threw a FREE party for all those in attendence at a local bowling alley-(yes in socal) Tonka sound, great DJs for the night, and all you can bowl bowling for all-it was a fantastic time from what I heard. I think there was a Dune thankyou party after the last one too (again thrown from proceeds) These guys ARENT in this to make a cent. they work hard year round for this... give it their BEST and upmost effort each year despite incredible work and odds (I remember hearing the medical emergency crews at Dune III walking around, trying their best to pull surprise inspections to get the promoters to back down-but they had EVERYTHING covered...right down to the number of snake bite / spider bite kits recommended by agencies per person for the night. they have the local vegetation taped off to protect it. They really do leave the desert locations they use far better than they found them. The BLM guys actually got off work at Dune III and came back to party with us.... and with the john abel event last year (kid wandering off AGAINST all warnings and exclamations and pleading by the promoters not to climb, wander off, or endanger themselves (on flyers, website, and told to every car at the location as they bought tix)... I'm sure they have a lot more liability they have to cover and press attention they have to account for-which costs money. Just a few thoughts before you go dissing one of the best crews in the world (IMO) I'll see you all there! I cant wait! gEoff ;) -----Original Message----- From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org] On Behalf Of Johnathan Flight Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 7:42 PM To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: DUNE woah. is it just me or have they really shifted the image of their event... from a 600 person free party to a huge $20 circus... fully equiped w/ law enforcement and all... gee, this has never happened before. ;) --jf From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 04:42:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25431 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 04:42:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 25417 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 04:42:10 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 04:42:10 -0000 Received: from WWoodliff@aol.com (553) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vXWHa14682 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 00:40:43 -0400 (EDT) From: WWoodliff@aol.com Message-ID: <3eb7d137.247b83bb@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:40:27 EDT Subject: A Call Out to All Promoters To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I wrote this down in my last post but it was pretty long and I wouln't blame anyone if they didn't make it this far. Making Parties 18&up isn't a solution because like so many of you have pointed out they do bring an energy that would be missed without there presents. But it is the promoting directly to these kids that brings them out in such large numbers that needs to be stopped, I am not saying this is the answer but it is a platform to start off with. Kids will still get a hold of flyers and hear about the parties but until you stop promoting to the high schools and putting out flyers in every available corner you are the cause of the problem. Like Hak said what is more important the $30 each of these kids bring in or their lives and their future. You know better, would you want your son or daughter exposed to this at such a young age? I want to hear your answers. I think everybody deserves to hear why it is that you are promoting at high schools and strip malls. ! Just currious to see if you will respond JonPaul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 04:49:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28841 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 04:49:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 28832 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 04:49:03 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 04:49:03 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (8022) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iQPAa01450; Tue, 25 May 1999 00:46:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <65d01949.247b852e@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:46:38 EDT Subject: Re: CD review (Eric Spire Transitions) To: macadio@hotmail.com CC: SFRAVES@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I really like eric's style, I got his cd a while back at a party (thanks eric) and I've had that thing stuck in my player for days at a time. It have a good variation that keeps it interesting, and a lot of diffirent kind of aspects mixed into it (if that makes any sense). And he's a really nice guy! Good job E. . . .keep it up. . . Luvyall Aryck duh funkalogical technician From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 04:51:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29914 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 04:51:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 29882 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 04:51:22 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 04:51:22 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (8022) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iGLZa04195; Tue, 25 May 1999 00:49:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:49:20 EDT Subject: Re: SFraves LAN party To: t4tggr@hotmail.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk WHATS UP???? I WUNNA GO ! where'r we goin ??? yep Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 05:01:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3820 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 05:01:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 3802 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 05:01:28 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 05:01:28 -0000 Received: from BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com (8046) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPXEa02571 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 01:00:31 -0400 (EDT) From: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com Message-ID: <38f9cac4.247b886e@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 01:00:30 EDT Subject: The way I SEE IT! -->Response to tha 18+ business To: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk No parties should be 18+ until I turn 18 ( 6 more months ) WAHAHA! Or until I get an ID =) THERE! We resolved the issue! No seriously...just make parties harder to find out about...that way you don't get a bunch of dumb kids. It's tha cheesy fliers I tell you! The cheesier the flyer the more appealing to the little strumpets! -=~*LaUrE@*~=- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 05:02:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4651 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 05:02:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 4642 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 05:02:51 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 05:02:51 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (8022) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rRXAa02575; Tue, 25 May 1999 01:00:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <5cc08f8f.247b8877@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 01:00:39 EDT Subject: Re: 12 monkeys SUCK! To: knuttychris@yahoo.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Y'know. . . I am like so totally glad that I drove like 4 hours and spent ten bucks to get into some OTHER party far far away. . . but that's just me Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 05:16:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8808 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 05:16:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 8799 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 05:16:29 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 05:16:29 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com (2618) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vKMGa02691 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 01:15:44 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: <1addea04.247b8c00@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 01:15:44 EDT Subject: Re: you're killing the rave scene To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk People continue to try and live in the past.. we should all be growing along with the music and looking to new things to come.. instead of dwelling on the way things were the way we were.. its gonna be 9 years for me comming up this july! Come on.. if i can evolve with the changing times.. so can you! :) Amber Nothing is as it was and never will be..... Nothing will ever be like this again.... Enjoy it while you can. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 05:31:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13249 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 05:31:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 13238 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 05:31:25 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 05:31:25 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (8022) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3OPAa02589 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 01:30:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 01:30:22 EDT Subject: Snuggle ? Interesting To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I went there with a couple friends sat night. I'll spare the super long story. . . I live by hayward, I have these homies up in rohnert park, by santa rosa. I went and picked them up, and proceeded to drive like 4hrs or so to chico for this party. Kinda what I expected, lots of college folk, candee ravers, a few little raverhoze, typical preppy rave scene (I suppose). It was in a groovy little place called the brickworks, if you like blacklights, this place is phat, lights everywhere, like all the fleourescent lights were blacklights, lots. . . bar upstairs, center and side chill areas with a few little like restaraunt style booths. There was a little booth with candy and toys, a regular bar with v8 splash, water, n schtuff. The outside room was like still a ciggy smokeout, playing jungle, some pretty stompin beats but not one inch to dance. The main room was like a blast from the past with straight old style rave beatz. . I don't even think they had a name for it, faster beats, lotsa electro-sounds, like super hard techno. A very pleasant change from the regular. . . a few people were like "what" though. Everyone there seemed really friendly though. You could go in and out, no od's, no arguments, no strip searches, and everyone pretty much knew everyone. It was a drive but I had fun, it was totally worth it. Weird thing though. Am I the only person that actually has pretty cool looking white gloves ? Everybody (I don't know why) seems to have these wack ass cotton knit things or like mickey mouse gloves. People always want to like try them on like they have this magical power or whatever. They do though, I've seem people put them on and just straight bust OUT with some ish, like DAMmmmmmn, then give them back. It must be the gloves. Mine are like $6 for a pack of 24 (12 pair). So I give lots of them out, cuz not many wholesale people just sell like A pack. Anyway though. SO like, I'm usually pretty much down for little trek's like this on whatever days, but i do have work. I like long drives and I love going to parties far away from anywhere monotonous. I need to get my damn pilot's license. . . Some time, if someone want to go to a party like that, maybe we can like hook up or whatever, just get all crazy n ish. . . LuvYall Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 05:34:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14623 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 05:34:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 14612 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 05:34:47 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 05:34:47 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com (4420) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vGCIa15308 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 01:33:40 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <4a9a11c1.247b9034@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 01:33:40 EDT Subject: thoughts on the weekend To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok, so i gave up checking out COTS friday nite since saturday was my prom, too bad it got broken up! but from my experiences, sometime the parties that get broken up often lead to incredible nites, i only hope that was how it was for everyone that went... THOSE GIRLIES & THEIR MOMS ok, so this goes back to being responsible and honest.... honesty with your parents is sooo important.. and although sometimes the truth doesn't let you have things the way you like, just remember that it won't be that way forever... and when you suprise your parents with the truth, sometimes they will eventually suprise you wwith more trust and freedom... and i know this from experience... so to those girls i hope it was worth it to sneak out, because now they have most likely lost all of the trust they had with their parents, not to mention how embarrasing it must be to have your parents find you all e'd out..... T&J 2 YEAR well, after last weekend i was invited to check this party out once my prom ended... so i figure, since i don't have to spend any more $ to go to the party, i'd check it out..... the only plus was the amount of space.... but there was *no* energy in this party!! i mean most of the kids there were all fuct up and fooling around with one another, although i did meet a few really cool kids, and out of all the people there, saw *one* friend!! this was incredible to me to go to a party in oakland, and the only people i knew worked there... i mean it was crazy... and when i did see my friend derek, i hugged him forever!! none-the-less this party was lacking, and maybe i'm just spoiled since the last party i went to just blew my mind (thankx again macadio!! first light rocked) anyways, this was the first party i've been to in a while that i actally can say i didn't really enjoy..... and what's up with the lack of jungle??? the whole time i was there (from 2am on) there was trance in both rooms... i love trance, everyone who knows me knows it's my passion, but i like a lil variety and frankly the music that nite seemed to be the same and a lil on the slower side..... PROM/KIDS FROM MY SCCHOOL gggrrrr.... why were kids at my school asking me where to get e??? can i say how annoyed i was that these kids who had given me hell for the last two years for being a raver, and for doing anything more illict than pot or drinking, were trying e for the first time at a senior prom..... and even worse that they assumed i would have some type of supply on me..... whatever!!!!! otherwise prom woulda been tight if it wasn't hotter there than your typical 2nd and jax party! and i'm not even kidding.... oh well.... disneyland grad nite is thursday, so i'm excited!!! hope everyone had a great weekend!!! love and hugs and kisses, tina From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 05:43:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17334 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 05:43:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 17315 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 05:43:53 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 05:43:53 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (8022) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3MHLa02588 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 01:43:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <1bd4de58.247b9271@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 01:43:13 EDT Subject: Party Wed !!! VERYdiscoVERY To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This party sounds like a lot of fun, the last harmonics party I went to was bad ass, the dj's were waaay into their sets, and everyone was into the music. There was a really groovy vibe with everyone happy, and just having that not a care in the world/life is great kinda feeling. + There's the wednesday night market in Santa Rosa which is supposed to be pretty groovy, a few thousand people partying in the streets (sounds like home), It sounds like a killer way to break up your boring workweek. I'm gonna try to get there (wherever) around 7, just to park and hang for a while. I'll probably park far and walk. I think I'll be wearing some baggy ass tan caffeine pants, a black longsleave freshjive jersey, white hat, white gloves, and I need to make a new damn laminate. . . I think everybody should go party, Santa Rosa's just like 1hr 15 min away (if you average about 90mph) like 60 miles from da "O". : ) It's 18+ supposedly, and drink with 21+ id. $5 I think. Call 707-571-8747 if your curious. . . "Variety is the spice of life." HUGZzzzzzz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 05:49:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19055 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 05:49:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 18973 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 05:49:32 -0000 Received: from netcom13.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.125) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 05:49:32 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom13.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id WAA13299; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:49:30 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: RE: you're killing the rave scene To: E-Bumpers By the Bay In-Reply-To: <003f01bea63d$81ad80c0$104b65d1@t2000> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk but check it - death and OD's needn't be a side effect of the Rave Scene. frankly, anything that leaves death and destruction as a side effect is running incorrectly, and i think most reasonable folks would agree with that. lets say, for example, that someone or some organization held a big huge party and *way* too many people showed up because it had become this huge over-hyped thing, and it was in a highly dangerous location where little could be done to provide for the safety of the guests, and let's just say in pure hypothetics that some guest did something stupid, like let's say wander off naked into the desert and then turned up dead a week later. i'd say that's poor management on the part of the party's organizers at the very least, and criminal negligence at the very worst. but let's say, in pure hypothetics again, that the call of the all-mighty dollar was so strong that this same person or organization decided to do it again the following year. would you say these folks are doing something to try to help the scene? or would you say they are endangering people's lives for the sake of a buck? if people are dying because of a party, then maybe that party shouldn't be happening. maybe that's lost on a lot of folks. real people are really putting their lives in real danger. Riverside police shot a raver dead in the street within the last 12 months. Police have routinely tear-gassed raves and rave entry lines. Ravers OD, die in car crashes and disappear almost every weekend nowadays. these things are not OK. they are not a simple side effect of The Scene. last time i checked, The Scene was about music and dancing... not about death. it's time for change. On Mon, 24 May 1999, my homeboy Vegas Rick wrote: > Since when are orgies and OD'ing exclusive to teenagers? No one throws a > party thinking "Yeah. We're gonna have a phat lineup that will make kids > kill themselves." It's a side-effect of the party. They don't need to go > their to do drugs, they can and will do them anywhere. > > It is the teenagers that give the scene its influx of energy and new styles > and such. Without them the scene would be dead because the older people get > tired of it or whatever and move on. It is their new blood that keep it > evolving and moving and in the spirit of what it first started in. > > Teens should have access to the culture they are creating, if they don't > have it, then they will create another one somewhere where they can do the > same types of things. And then the rave scene will be truly dead. > > --Vegas Rick > It takes considerable knowledge just to recognize the extent of your own > ignorance. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > > Behalf Of dj _haK > > Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 4:08 PM > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Subject: you're killing the rave scene > > > > > > what's wrong with the scene? after reading the post about > > 'children of the > > sun'; i feel sick to my stomach. > > all the so called 'underground' rave parties are just a facade > > for mad drug > > orgies with 12-16 year old kids as the main clients! that is so > > phucked up > > beyond belief. > > do any of you promoters have any shame? or is the dollar stronger than a > > 15yr olds life? when some 14 yr old dies from an OD, you can bet > > '20/20' or > > 'dateline' or any of the media will through a negative slant on the scene > > and we'll all lose out. > > no one; save the parents, can make the choice for anyone under 18 > > legally. > > hell anyone under 18 can't even go to an 'R' movie. > > the line is crossed, promoters need to make parties 18 over; end of story. > > otherwise the rave scene is dead. > > > > hak > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 05:50:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20823 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 05:50:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 20815 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 05:50:24 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 05:50:24 -0000 Received: from PHUNKN3@aol.com (14392) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vQGHa02742 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 01:48:37 -0400 (EDT) From: PHUNKN3@aol.com Message-ID: <11389d2a.247b93b5@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 01:48:37 EDT Subject: BSP:PHUNCKATECK presents, PHUNCKTION / Noel, Juju & DUHMc / guest: Siren (Bassment) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 56 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What up yall..... Tuesday, May 24th **PHUNCKTION** DRUM N BASS IN MOTION w/ residents: Noel. Juju & DUH mc special guest SIREN / Bassment this all goes down @ THE TOP every tues. 424 HAIGHT @ WEBSTER 10pm-2am / 21+ / 3 bones info/mailing list: 415.789.8000 x1147 upcoming guests: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ R.A.W. / L.A.. MACHETE / L.A. SINE / Platinum agent / PHILLY LEE / Metalheadz / U.K. aiight...out Noel PHUNCKATECK COMMUNICATIONS dj_noel_sf@hotmail.com htp://www.sfdb.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 05:53:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22150 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 05:53:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 22142 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 05:53:35 -0000 Received: from grebe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.100) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 05:53:35 -0000 Received: from ianvogel (pool503-cvx.ds52-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.150.248]) by grebe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAB18842; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <005601bea672$a1f31ea0$f896b3d1@ianvogel> From: "Happy Kids" To: , References: <3eb7d137.247b83bb@aol.com> Subject: Re: A Call Out to All Promoters Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:49:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk *deep breath* well firstly, i would like to say that i am in FULL opposition of the promotional habits in question. not only is it bringing inexperienced and impressionable youngsters into a (now) VERY dangerous environment, it's also degrading the quality of parties as i've watched promoters put less and less effort into their "productions." people actually think that some of these complete SHIT parties that have been occuring lately are good! you know who you are, you jerk-offs who rent out 2nd and jackson, put a system inside, book the same dj's who played there for the last 16 f%#king weekends, and call it a production. no decorations, no original concepts, no creativity - no effort. i REALLY would love to rattle off a few names but i'm not one for talking smack on a public forum. with that off my chest, i may continue. 18 & up will not stop this problem. massives rule that possibility out. kids will just go to massives and be in a MUCH worse situation. there used to be a separation of the massive scene and the underground. i don't see that so much anymore. how many parties do you see anymore with ghetto-ass flyers, preaching about love and unity and a special night where we help each other grow? our last party was the first happy kids that wasn't one of those. it made me take a BIG step back. there's hardly any resposible promoters anymore. we should feel resposible for these kids that were inviting to our events, because we know what goes on. with that resposibility in mind, we should be doing our F#%KING BEST to make sure they are well-informed about the choices they might make that night AND we should be overloading our promotions with love, positivity, and respect. PLUR doesn't seem to be working as it has been raped and pillaged by promoters who obviously aren't too plurry - and neither are their parties. knives and needles aren't exactly warm and fuzzy. so what am i saying? i'm saying we should all grab shovels and head deeper cause this *2nd and jackson*big heart city*homebase*85th and baldwin*santa clara fairgrounds* shit is not underground and it sure as hell ain't PLUR. all it takes is a little bit of money, a whole lot of love, and a SHITLOAD of effort. but it's worth it. i think some of you old-schoolers would agree. it can happen again. it's up to us. let's do it! i'm going to. lotsa love -i ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 9:40 PM Subject: A Call Out to All Promoters > I wrote this down in my last post but it was pretty long and I > wouln't blame anyone if they didn't make it this far. Making Parties 18&up > isn't a solution because like so many of you have pointed out they do bring > an energy that would be missed without there presents. But it is the > promoting directly to these kids that brings them out in such large numbers > that needs to be stopped, I am not saying this is the answer but it is a > platform to start off with. Kids will still get a hold of flyers and hear > about the parties but until you stop promoting to the high schools and > putting out flyers in every available corner you are the cause of the > problem. Like Hak said what is more important the $30 each of these kids > bring in or their lives and their future. You know better, would you want > your son or daughter exposed to this at such a young age? I want to hear > your answers. I think everybody deserves to hear why it is that you are > promoting at high schools and strip malls. ! > > Just currious to see if you will respond JonPaul > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 05:55:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23583 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 05:55:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 23558 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 05:55:42 -0000 Received: from netcom13.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.125) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 05:55:42 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom13.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id WAA13550; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:54:25 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Re: 18 up, who will do it??? To: leslie.ayres@excite.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <927593430.7043.619@excite.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk okay, one more thing here: not all parties have to be 18+, IMHO. If a promoter is willing to take extreme measures to ensure the safety of their guests, and they are willing to not run the party past established curfew hours, and they are willing to use safe, clean, easily accessable locations, and they are willing to take responsibility for the minors present, then there should be no problem with having minors at the party. i mean there are teen-age dance clubs around. this kind of thing can be done properly (and within the limits of the law) and still "go off". however, if the promoters are looking to follow the old ways and they are not willing to make the concessions that will provide a safe environment for their minor guests, then the party should be restricted to adults. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 06:05:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27940 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 06:05:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 27932 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 06:05:18 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 06:05:18 -0000 Received: from [209.75.52.220] (AM5-68-52-220.ixpres.com [209.75.52.220]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA21701; Mon, 24 May 1999 23:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000701bea668$325392a0$b4570118@C42488-A.pinol1.sfba.home.com> References: <19990525024136.390.rocketmail@web902.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 23:15:26 -0700 To: From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: DUNE IS IT Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yeah brother, that's EXACTLY it! Not to mention that these parties were so amazing that more & more people wanted to go to them....so they had to expand to accomodate...let's not dis on this crew who from what i understand, really does work so hard, just as geoff said. I for one cannot wait till June 19, and I have a feeling that those of us who are old & crotchety ravers that complain and moan about the death of the scene might have a pleasant flashback to "the way it was" at Dune. The scene is alive & kicking people, let's get together and celebrate it! hugs & *starz* madhvi >how many Dunes have you been to? > >Law enforcement has always been invited and encouraged to attend, >to show them and the other agencies down there that the dune crew >and attendees are responsible, law-abiding people trying to have a good >time. >the first one may have been free, but dune III was the best $10 I ever spen= t >(still fantasic lineup and the best visuals / sound setup I've ever >experieneced outdoors) >Dune IV was not $20... they were only able to recover revenue for about >3000 kids >although more than 8000 showed up (and got in without paying). I'm sure >they are >gonna once again blow us away with their visuals they have planned this >year, >and sound will be great. world class lineup. > >PS with the extra money they had left from Dune III, (remember it was a $10 >party) >they threw a FREE party for all those in attendence at a local bowling >alley-(yes in socal) >Tonka sound, great DJs for the night, and all you can bowl bowling for >all-it was a fantastic >time from what I heard. I think there was a Dune thankyou party after the >last one too (again >thrown from proceeds) > >These guys ARENT in this to make a cent. they work hard year round for >this... >give it their BEST and upmost effort each year despite incredible work and >odds (I remember >hearing the medical emergency crews at Dune III walking around, trying thei= r >best to pull surprise >inspections to get the promoters to back down-but they had EVERYTHING >covered...right down to >the number of snake bite / spider bite kits recommended by agencies per >person for the night. they >have the local vegetation taped off to protect it. They really do leave th= e >desert locations they use >far better than they found them. The BLM guys actually got off work at >Dune III and came back >to party with us.... > >and with the john abel event last year (kid wandering off AGAINST all >warnings and exclamations >and pleading by the promoters not to climb, wander off, or endanger >themselves (on flyers, website, >and told to every car at the location as they bought tix)... I'm sure they >have a lot more liability they >have to cover and press attention they have to account for-which costs >money. > >Just a few thoughts before you go dissing one of the best crews in the worl= d >(IMO) > >I'll see you all there! I cant wait! > >gEoff ;) > >-----Original Message----- >From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org] On >Behalf Of Johnathan Flight >Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 7:42 PM >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: DUNE > >woah. > >is it just me or have they really shifted the image of >their event... > >from a 600 person free party to a huge $20 circus... >fully equiped w/ law enforcement and all... > >gee, this has never happened before. > >;) > >--jf From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 06:42:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14892 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 06:42:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 14882 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 06:42:19 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 06:42:19 -0000 Received: from [209.75.52.220] (AM5-68-52-220.ixpres.com [209.75.52.220]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA25749 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 23:43:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 23:52:30 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: does anyone understand house music?! Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey hunnyz, Okay, not to take away from all the important post threads going on like how much promoters suck and the whole 18+ thing and the death of the rave scene (i'm not being sarcastic, i swear, i got my 2 cents on these things as well) but i'm just wondering about something. I read a LOT of comments on here where people just diss left & right on house music and how much it sucks and blah blah blah...WHAT THE FUCK?! What's the deal here? WHY does everyone hate house music so much?? when the fuck did that start? If i'm not mistaken (but i may well be), up until a few years ago, SF was basically a house nation, remember? Trance parties were still super UG and usually happened at weird co-op houses in Berkeley...HOUSE was the thing. Now suddenly house is shit and it sucks? Of course, you're all entitled to your own opinion; i'm just trying to understand this absolute backlash against house that seems to be going on...what gives? And i'd love to get articulate responses, not just "house sucks". I really am curious. Personally, I LOVE deep and trancey and plain house w/ a passion, and i *love* trance w/ all my heart and i really like jungle/D&B.... I'd like to know when everyone (or lots of you ) started hating house or what you think it seems to be lacking now. HUGS & *STARS* CURIOUSLY YOURS, MADHVI From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 06:52:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20777 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 06:52:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 20767 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 06:52:25 -0000 Received: from netcom14.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.126) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 06:52:25 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom14.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id XAA20226; Mon, 24 May 1999 23:52:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 23:52:23 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: RE: DUNE To: E-Bumpers By the Bay Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk okay, here goes my standard desert-rave bullshit... i tried to help folks out with this last year but hardly anyone listened so here goes again: i don't know the location for this year's Dune, but it's better to be prepared and leave some junk in the car than to be unprepared. here's the junk i would bring if i were you: 1) water water water water. this is the desert. bring water. 2) a tent. bring one that's easy to set up. 3) blankets and a sleeping bag. you gotta get cozy in that tent 4) goggles and a bandana or a full-face gas mask. if it gets windy in the desert, you *do not* want sand all in your eyes and nose and mouth. really. honestly. if you don't bring anything else i suggest, bring this stuff. if you get goggles, gets ones that fit snugly around your eye sockets and make some kind of seal... like ski goggles or motor-cycle goggles... don't rely on safety glasses or sun glasses. they won't do the trick. really. 5) a thick coat or wrap. it tends to get cold in the desert and if it's cold and windy, you'll be happy for the protection. if you brought a thick blanket, this might cover this aspect for you. 6) lantern/flashlight. chances are that if you're at your tent or away from the main area, it's going to be a little dark. and doing things like tying your shoes or using a porta-potty in the dark are no fun. 7) TP. 'nuff said. 8) trash bags. don't get cheap here, either. get the big heavy-duty ones. bring extras and hand 'em out to the folks in the tents near yours before they leave in the morning. make sure you keep at least one for yourself. 9) baby wipes. you wouldn't believe how good these things are for cleaning up your dirty self. i would've never thought of these if not for a very insightful friend in SoCal to insisted that i bring them. i thought it was a stupid idea. i was completely wrong. 10) first aid kit. you never know when someone might wander up to your tent and tell you that they cut themselves on a cactus or something. 11) if you're driving: get your car checked out first!!! take it from someone who wound up broken down in the middle of the desert!! you've got plenty of time to schedule a tune-up before the party, so do it! and bring extra coolant and oil and an extra fan belt with you. hopefully you won't need 'em, and if you don't it's good to have 'em anyway! if you're at all doubful about your vehicle, RENT ONE! you can get SUV's and such from most rental joints. and if you get the extra $7 damage insurance you don't have to worry about the paint getting scratched from the sand and such. 12) wear good shoes!!! sneakers are okay, but thick hiking-style shoes with a good sole are going to be more apporpriate. you can always take 'em off while you're chillin' in your tent if your feet get hot. and of course if you have a mobile phone, bring it. your service may not be the best, but something is better than nothing ya know? and one last thing: keep and eye on your friends. don't let them wander off alone, even if you think they're just going for a little walk. a little walk can lead to a long search. keep your friends close to you. it's easier to hug them that way, anyway. :D -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 07:03:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27467 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 07:03:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 27458 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 07:03:50 -0000 Received: from pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (HELO pimout1-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.58.53) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 07:03:50 -0000 Received: from prodigy.net (SNFCB210-36.splitrock.net [209.156.149.151]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA117568; Tue, 25 May 1999 03:03:40 -0400 Message-ID: <374A4A6E.36E40856@prodigy.net> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 23:59:59 -0700 From: JOELANZON Reply-To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Madhvi Dalal CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: does anyone understand house music?! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Everything recycles, house will be back Just need a few bangin house DJs everyone can understand to give it a kickstart ; ) -peace- Joe Lanzon Madhvi Dalal wrote: > hey hunnyz, > > Okay, not to take away from all the important post threads going on like > how much promoters suck and the whole 18+ thing and the death of the rave > scene (i'm not being sarcastic, i swear, i got my 2 cents on these things > as well) but i'm just wondering about something. I read a LOT of comments > on here where people just diss left & right on house music and how much it > sucks and blah blah blah...WHAT THE FUCK?! What's the deal here? WHY does > everyone hate house music so much?? when the fuck did that start? If i'm > not mistaken (but i may well be), up until a few years ago, SF was > basically a house nation, remember? Trance parties were still super UG and > usually happened at weird co-op houses in Berkeley...HOUSE was the thing. > Now suddenly house is shit and it sucks? Of course, you're all entitled to > your own opinion; i'm just trying to understand this absolute backlash > against house that seems to be going on...what gives? And i'd love to get > articulate responses, not just "house sucks". I really am curious. > Personally, I LOVE deep and trancey and plain house w/ a passion, and i > *love* trance w/ all my heart and i really like jungle/D&B.... I'd like to > know when everyone (or lots of you ) started hating house or what you think > it seems to be lacking now. > > HUGS & *STARS* > > CURIOUSLY YOURS, > > MADHVI From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 07:12:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1983 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 07:12:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 1971 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 07:12:06 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 07:12:06 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com (14381) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id uCLYa26942; Tue, 25 May 1999 03:11:03 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: <6db9cdb3.247ba707@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 03:11:03 EDT Subject: trance sux, house rox To: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk trance is for candy kids with one to many glowsticks, house is true sf style! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 07:23:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6487 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 07:23:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 6439 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 07:23:01 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 07:23:01 -0000 Received: from Taiida@aol.com (14401) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id cNAMa02744; Tue, 25 May 1999 03:19:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Taiida@aol.com Message-ID: <34312205.247ba91b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 03:19:55 EDT Subject: Re: A Better Gas Out (NRR) To: mcarey@triad.com, micron1@rocketmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey, Maybe I'll drive all the way to San Lorenzo from San Jose just to buy Gas. heheheheheheheheheheh, just kidding. .. Gas over here is like 1.40, which is the cheapest C-Ya Laterz!!! Oh, did I mention I'm on Summer Vacation NOW!!!! TIME TO PARTY, starting tomorrow. :-) and definitely at Metropolis. YYYYYYAAAAAYYYYYYY!!!!!!!! Love/HugznStuff, *muuuaahhhhhh* Tami << San Lorenzo Gas is $1.33/gal for unleaded, at Arco and the independents (off Washington and on Hepserian off A st). Note: The idea of independents having "dirty" gas is a myth perpetuated by the larger Gas companies. Almost all gas in the state of California comes form the same source, so it is the same gas. The only way the gas that might be better for your car is if they have put in an additive (ala Chevron) or the octane is higher. With this in mind SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL INDEPENDENT GAS STATIONS! They're the ones driving down the prices. FIGHT CORPORATE PRICE GOUGING! =) M<>< >> not sure if this already hit the list....but i think it's kind of important. (i apologize if it did and i missed it) i just bought gas in vacaville for $1.29....$0.30 cheaper than almost anywhere in the bay area. they have the means of reducing the prices, they just won't. > > > A Better "Gas-Out" > > > > I'm sure you had heard about the "gas-out" on April 30. Word spread so > fast > > on e-mail that the whole nation knows about it and the media picked up on > > it. However, gas companies weren't scared because they wouldn't lose > sales, > > since everybody was buying gas on April 29 and May 1. So, a Las Vegas > > radio station has come up with a better idea to take things one step > > further. The radio station has suggested to boycott a particular > company, > > and refuse to buy from them until prices get back down to normal. The > radio > > station picked Chevron, so in order to make this work, you need to stop > > buying from Chevron until their prices become normal again. Maybe a > severe > > loss of business will force them to take action in order to drop prices > and > > regain business, which will force changes by the rest of the companies > > across the board to remain competitive. > > > > Sick of paying close to $2 a gallon? This can work, but you have to > > do two things: > > 1. Do not shop at Chevron > > 2. Send this on to everybody you know > > > > The reason Chevron was picked because they were one of 2 companies who > > started this whole thing. Chevron raised its prices because it shut down > > one of its refineries and said that they couldn't keep up with the > demand. > > They used the supply and demand theory. They DEMAND more money because > > they don't have the SUPPLY that its competitors have. > > > > Put those Chevron cards away!!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 07:27:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8615 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 07:27:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 8601 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 07:27:15 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 07:27:15 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com (14381) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id uLGVa02104; Tue, 25 May 1999 03:26:10 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: <22b9b6f1.247baa91@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 03:26:09 EDT Subject: Re: trance sux, house rox To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com, mdalal@mail.ixpres.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk trance is sum of the cheesiest corniest music u will ever hear, its for all the candy kids with one to many glowsticks, obviously trance is just a small candy kid fad, i mean, every1 in the uk and europe spin house, and they are far ahead of us musically,andyway, house is bomb! -ralph From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 07:28:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9346 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 07:28:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 9330 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 07:28:31 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 07:28:31 -0000 Received: from Rainraysor@aol.com (14366) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vFARa02682 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 03:27:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Rainraysor@aol.com Message-ID: <3f2b8a7d.247baaf3@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 03:27:47 EDT Subject: Faze? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk did anyone go to this party in Sante Rosa.....was it any good?...just curious, wanted to go but couldn't....thanks rainer From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 07:35:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11958 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 07:35:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 11928 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 07:34:51 -0000 Received: from sparky.inasec.ca (@207.176.144.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 07:34:51 -0000 Received: from a3a46569 (dnai-216-15-121-95.dialup.dnai.com [216.15.121.95]) by sparky.inasec.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id DAA10431; Tue, 25 May 1999 03:17:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by a3a46569 with Microsoft Mail id <01BEA646.4D96E9D0@a3a46569>; Tue, 25 May 1999 00:34:09 -0700 Message-ID: <01BEA646.4D96E9D0@a3a46569> From: Martin Soukup To: "'Jess ica'" , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Subject: RE: 18+ parties, how to regulate? Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:34:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Some companies I've seen in other cities are already regulating (usually = 16+) and check id at the door. I think this should be done only if there seems to be no alternative = though. Really kids shouldn't fuck it up for everyone else by sneaking = there and getting tailed or whatever. Think before you risk everyone = else's neck (like getting the promoters arrested!) is that so much to = ask from kids (and older people) from a culture supposedly based on = PLUR? I think the problem here is as with most thinks lack of education as to = how to care for the other people around you, not just yourself. No dissin' to nobody, but I really think that cutting anyone out is = totally shitty if there's another way. Marty, The 8 year old raver -----Original Message----- From: Jess ica [SMTP:thatpisces@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 12:22 PM To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: 18+ parties, how to regulate? I have a question, All this talk of 18+ parties, any suggestions on how it would be controlled? Should promoters check id at the door of the party and turn kids away that dont have an id? Should records stores check id at the time the ticket is purchased (oh we know those record store peeps would really love that, some bitch about just selling the tickets) How would it be regulated? Just curious, any ideas? Jess=20 Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 07:37:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14048 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 07:37:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 14038 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 07:37:07 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 07:37:07 -0000 Received: from PlurDealer@aol.com (583) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJIJa02589 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 03:36:07 -0400 (EDT) From: PlurDealer@aol.com Message-ID: <5c02d2c.247bace7@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 03:36:07 EDT Subject: Re: trance sux, house rox To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am from Europe and that is horse shit. "Everyone in the uk" Unfortunately we also have people like Ralph in Europe that insist on belittling other people and just basically people pissing on the vibe. House music is good but it is extremely dull to have just one type of music. Our scene thrives on variety. The plur dealer <>> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 07:43:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18210 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 07:43:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 18202 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 07:43:45 -0000 Received: from ratty.wolfe.net (HELO wolfenet.com) (204.157.98.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 07:43:45 -0000 Received: from agony.wolfenet.com (tac-p1-46.wolfenet.com [206.159.18.93]) by wolfenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA10172; Tue, 25 May 1999 00:43:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990525003911.00710ea4@popserv.wolfenet.com> X-Sender: syoung@popserv.wolfenet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:39:11 -0700 To: Ninabruja4@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Steven Young Subject: Re: (no subject) Cc: 18+?!?!@aol.com In-Reply-To: <69e2abc9.247b7fd5@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I believe part of this is about protecting the promoters interest as well as the people over 18 who attend the party. Legally there are problems with having under 18 people attend and it is a good enough reason to shut down a party(then everyone loses). The only way you can guarantee a bust free evening is make it 18+. If you don't like it bitch to the politicians/police because they are the one's who are pushing promoters into making their events 18+. I don't think there are many promoters out there that want to make their events 18+ only. As far as COTS party goes.. It was an underager that RUINED what was heading into one of the thickest/vibiest parties I've been too in a long time.. So you need to address your piers and tell them to act responsibly because having an "underground" event is walking a fine line and it will only take a few instances to push promoters into making them exclusively 18+.. -S At 12:23 AM 5/25/99 EDT, Ninabruja4@aol.com wrote: >these messages about being 18+ are really bothering me. last time i checked, >a style of music does not discriminate against age. anywhere you go there >will be some kids doing drugs or defying their parent. i can go to school and >see that! why punish me and several other teens who go to the parties to >dance and meet new people!?!?! im almost positive that someone is going to >tell me that im not "mature" enough to handle dancing with my friends. what i >do know is, i can go to a party, remain completely safe, and then get up and >do my homework the next day and handle my responsibilities. i know so many >"mature" adults who get cracked out and pass out when they get home and wake >up sometime the next afternoon. but whatever....i guess adults will always be >oppressive and selfish. sorry for my cynism but my feelings have been hurt. > >veronica > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 07:45:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19177 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 07:45:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 19169 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 07:45:49 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 07:45:49 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (14432) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vFFOa03188; Tue, 25 May 1999 03:45:02 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <42d82ce2.247baefe@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 03:45:02 EDT Subject: Re: trance sux, house rox To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/25/1999 12:27:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time, H4RDHOUSE@aol.com writes: << trance is sum of the cheesiest corniest music u will ever hear, its for all the candy kids with one to many glowsticks, obviously trance is just a small candy kid fad, i mean, every1 in the uk and europe spin house, and they are far ahead of us musically,andyway, house is bomb! -ralph >> Ralph, Im sorry, I love house music, deep house is where its at for me. But what you said in your post just doesnt make sense and Im sorry to tell you this but not everyone in the UK spins house. Far from it. Have you ever heard of a Dj named Paul Okenfold. Base salary of $400,000. He doesnt spin house my boy, he spins trance. I could go on and on but why. Why bring negativity to the forum. Every genre has its qualities that each of us find for ourselves. To each his own. What makes you groove and happy may not make the next person feel the same way. But its not wrong. Its for him/her to feel. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 07:50:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20465 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 07:50:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 20452 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 07:50:04 -0000 Received: from web1003.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.93) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 07:50:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525075003.27020.rocketmail@web1003.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.170.187.209] by web1003.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 25 May 1999 00:50:03 PDT Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:50:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Junglist Mikey Subject: House, the OG shiot... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I could not be in any more agreement. I am a jungle biotch, but there is no replacement for house. The scene is outta control. I recently went to an all house party, and let me tell you the vibe was so loving and considerate. Everyone was cheering my dancesteps and my ability to feel it for what it is and that is good music. I mean come on, house started it and house is gonna end it. and i can see why people are so prejudiced towards house. Because it is not underground, it is not cutting edge. But quite frankly, if it can keep me groovin than i am down as fuck. No bias, just pure enjoyment. Except for that Hardcore Bullshit. i have still not been able to figure that stuff out. But oh well. "your everyday junglist" mikey From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 07:58:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22925 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 07:58:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 22766 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 07:58:05 -0000 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 07:58:05 -0000 Received: from best.com ([216.132.92.5]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id AAA02787 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 00:56:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <374A5757.30495F2B@best.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:55:03 -0700 From: just jer Organization: @spire X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: THIS LIST IS CRAZY RIGHT NOW! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well... I didn't read the 50+ posts about 18+ or kids at parties, yadda yadda yadda. I only have one thing to say about anyone bitching about kids in the scene. ********************************************************************* WE WERE ALL YOUNG ONCE! AND STUPID TOO! ********************************************************************* more to the point... although I'd prefer to see a lot more older folks at raves, and a lot more people who find a deeper meaning in this "rave culture", I prefer to make the best out of whatever I'm doing. How many of you have intentions to go out this weekend and have a shitty time, be disgusted with candyravers, and complain about the location and how hot it is? Aren't your intentions to go out this weekend and have fuckin' blast cause that's what you want to do? Well do it! and quit complaining. There will always be things we don't like about any situation. Ever heard the saying "Nothing is Perfect"? of course. So ignore the negatives and make the best out of what you've got. DUH... I seriously believe that if we all went out and had the best time we could possibly have for OURSELVES, ignoring the negative shit, we wouldn't have so much negative crap around us to bitch about. Again, what I'm trying to say here is that you can pick a party out this weekend that you'd expect to have the least fun at and as long as your with a few friends, you can have an incredible time! It's up to you! Live life bitching and moaning, or make the best out of it. In the mean time... I'm gonna go throw a party that'll kick all of your asses! =) Have fun this weekend, jer ps. weird. I just reread everything I wrote and it doesn't make as much sense as I thought it would. oh well. I guess I need sleep. -- ... it's almost here ... @spire (415) 273-5513 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 07:59:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23819 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 07:59:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 23640 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 07:59:02 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 07:59:02 -0000 Received: from Ezzm@aol.com (14413) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vDTNa02587; Tue, 25 May 1999 03:58:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Ezzm@aol.com Message-ID: <489f5df7.247bb221@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 03:58:25 EDT Subject: Re: Faze? To: Rainraysor@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk uh i went, it was a good effort but no one showed up. all the rooms were empty. The location was really cool (lazer tag arena) but there just weren't enough folks to fill it up. Most of the djs were just spinning to themselves, and one of the rooms got shut down cuz no one but the dj was inside. It was set up to be a great party , especially the jungle room, but the peeps was missin. Da soopa smak MO From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 08:00:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25227 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 08:00:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 25218 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 08:00:48 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 08:00:48 -0000 Received: from [209.75.52.220] (AM5-68-52-220.ixpres.com [209.75.52.220]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA34370 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 01:01:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 01:11:17 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: Re: trance sux, house rox Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hmmm, well, see i happen to like trance a lot, altho i must admit i didn't like it at first. In fact about 3 years ago i was in D.C. and i went to a party at the now defunct BUZZ and they were selling tapes in there. Well, one of the tapes was by this DJ named Sasha, who at the time (remember kids, this was early1996 still) was relatively small here in the states. Of course, i'd HEARD of him, just never heard him. Well, i bought that Sasha tape (which was Live @ Ibizia BTW) and i thought it was this crazy music that was too fast and there was no discernable beat and i could only listen to it while i was driving. Well, i quickly banished it from my tape player and popped in a nice familiar mixtape by Tony. Well, then it became fall of 1997, one year later, and i picked up this CD by Paul Oakenfold....OMG, i fell in love...instantly. It was one of the most beautiful mixes i have ever heard. I guess what i'm trying to say is that when i discovered trance i thought it was for tweekers who liked to dance running in place at 550 bpm, but then i realized later that it was just a different kinda music w/ a different feel. Incidentally, after Paul Oakenfold i went back and listened to my Sasha tape i'd bought the year b4 and I loved it! I guess it just takes an incredible dj in whatever genre there is to make you wake up & love it. Same w/ D&B too, hated it until i heard Dieselboy... Sooooo, all you house-haters may think house sucks, but i don't feel that it's been given a fair chance by you, just like i didn't give trance or jungle a fair chance at first either. BTW, i don't think trance is cheezy as a whole, altho i agree some is...but then again so is some house...cheezy beyond belief....and back &forth and forth & back. hugz & love madhvi >trance is sum of the cheesiest corniest music u will ever hear, its for all >the candy kids with one to many glowsticks, obviously trance is just a smal= l >candy kid fad, i mean, every1 in the uk and europe spin house, and they are >far ahead of us musically,andyway, house is bomb! > > >-ralph From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 08:18:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29837 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 08:18:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 29816 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 08:18:35 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 08:18:35 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (325) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vTBEa21338 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 04:17:51 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <1358f697.247bb6af@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 04:17:51 EDT Subject: here is something.... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk something to do when board. here is a little purity test for ya'll to take AOL users: Purity test All Others: http://dopey.theglobe.com/tainted/purity_test/purity_test.html My Purity Test Score is . . . 28% who wants to help me achive 0-20% lol Love and light, Hight tech redneck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 08:22:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1933 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 08:21:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 1925 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 08:21:57 -0000 Received: from mail-out1.apple.com (17.254.0.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 08:21:57 -0000 Received: from mailgate2.apple.com ([17.129.100.225]) by mail-out1.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA21038 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 01:21:56 -0700 Received: from scv3.apple.com (scv3.apple.com) by mailgate2.apple.com (mailgate2.apple.com- SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 01:21:52 -0700 Received: from [17.201.22.70] (roseal.apple.com [17.201.22.70]) by scv3.apple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA08424 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 01:21:52 -0700 Message-Id: <199905250821.BAA08424@scv3.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 01:21:52 -0700 Subject: Re: trance sux, house rox From: "Alex Rosenberg" To: sfraves MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > trance is sum of the cheesiest corniest music u will ever hear, its for all > the candy kids with one to many glowsticks, obviously trance is just a small > candy kid fad, i mean, every1 in the uk and europe spin house, and they are > far ahead of us musically,andyway, house is bomb! I just came back from London, where I attended "Return to the Source." It was a full-on Goa/Psy-trance nutter-fest if I ever saw one. And yeah, I've heard some of those same tracks played at local parties full of candy kids. Disagree with me if you must, but candy is fashion, and kids are kids. The two need not be related. You'd be surprised who might dress candy -- ask Leslie. I've worn and Elmo hug shirt and phat pants too. +------------------------------------------------------------+ | Alexander M. Rosenberg | | Nobody cares what I say. Remove the underscore to mail me. | From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 09:28:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27040 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 09:28:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 27018 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 09:28:10 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 09:28:10 -0000 Received: from Kandehata@aol.com (389) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vYYCa26942; Tue, 25 May 1999 05:27:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Kandehata@aol.com Message-ID: <8e1c0c79.247bc6fa@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 05:27:22 EDT Subject: Re: The way I SEE IT! -->Response to tha 18+ business To: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com, Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/24/99 10:01:41 PM PDT, BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com writes: << The cheesier the flyer the more appealing to the little strumpets! >> this must mean that u go to every skillz party...right laurea???and son and bianca fallow right behind ya into the k hole....hahahahh i had to say something bout this....all three of u guys are UNDERGROUND TRANCEWHORES!!!! u dont have to lie bout u being a trance feine.....bwahahahah A From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 13:17:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20609 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 13:17:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 20601 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 13:17:05 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 13:17:05 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.96] (congo-96.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.96]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23231; Tue, 25 May 1999 06:16:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 06:38:55 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Tue) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello...today's quote is... Ye can lead a man up to the university, but ye can't make him think. ---Finley Peter Dunne ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 15:53:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5973 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 15:52:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 5952 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 15:52:57 -0000 Received: from f140.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.19) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 15:52:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 54791 invoked by uid 0); 25 May 1999 15:52:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525155229.54790.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 199.94.180.3 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 25 May 1999 08:52:28 PDT X-Originating-IP: [199.94.180.3] From: "Rum TumTugger" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Flame Form: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 08:52:28 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk H4RDHOUSE@aol.com/Ralpf: =========================================== FLAME FORM =========================================== ) ( ( ( ( ) () @@ ) (( ( ( ( )( @@ ( )) ) ( ( ( ( ()( /---\ (()( ( _______ ) ) )(@ !O O! )@@ ( ) ) ) < ____) ) ( ( )( ()@ \ o / (@@@@@ ( ()( ) /--| |( o| ( ) ) ((@@(@@ !o! @@@@(@@@@@)() ( | > \___| ) ( @)@@)@ /---\-/---\ )@@@@@()( ) | /---------+ (@@@@)@@@( // /-----\ \\ @@@)@@@@@( | | \ =========______/|@@@@@@@@@@@@@(@@@ // @ /---\ @ \\ @(@@@(@@@ | \ \\=========------\|@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ O @@@ /-\ @@@ O@@(@@)@@ @ | \ \----+--\-))) @@@@@@@@@@ !! @@@@ % @@@@ !! @@)@@@ .. | |\______|_)))/ . @@@@@@ !! @@ /---\ @@ !! @@(@@@ @ \__========== * . @@ /MM /\O O/\ MM\ @@@@@@@. | |-\ \ ( . @ !!! !! \-/ !! !!! @@@@@ . | | \ \ ) . . @@@@ !! !! .(. @. .. . | | \ \ ( / .( . \)). 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From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 16:06:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15353 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 16:06:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 15341 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 16:06:02 -0000 Received: from law2-f122.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.122) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 16:06:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 35611 invoked by uid 0); 25 May 1999 16:05:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525160535.35610.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 162.93.14.66 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 25 May 1999 09:05:35 PDT X-Originating-IP: [162.93.14.66] From: "p-stash ###" To: sschumacher@ucdavis.edu, Gammbino@aol.com Cc: SFRaves@hyperreal.org, frequency-8@squinky.org Subject: Re: Vaca party - Addendum Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:05:35 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi, this is pistachio, thanks for your kind words. i'll let mac (who was the person in charge) know you appreciated her party. and to people who think the underground is dead...you're just not going to any underground parties. word of mouth does work. cool, late. >From: Silvia Schumacher >To: Gammbino@aol.com >CC: SFRaves@hyperreal.org, frequency-8@squinky.org >Subject: Re: Vaca party - Addendum >Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:14:07 -0700 (PDT) > >Hey there, > >May I give my props out to the team that organized this beautiful party >and to Mac who did let me know about it??? > >LOCATION: Some private ranch with the most beautiful location I have ever >seen... a small lake, hills forming a natural "dancefloor", a sky that was >full of stars and trees all over the place (Oh, I love CA!!! :)))... > >THE DJ's: Sorry, I forgot some names, but there were plenty of them. All >of them kicked ass and made the crowd continuously groove under the sky... >Speaking of TELENE, it was the first time for me to listen to that >girl-power behind the turntables and I can't wait to see/listen to her >again!!! After her some happy hardcore protagonists took over and due >to my musical preference rocked as much as the others did, but I just don't like it>, I had to >climb up the hill to see how the party looks like from all the way up >there :))) and to chat with my friends. The warm wind brought the music >even up there and the view was amazing! You missed GREG SANDLER??? Well, >you missed the best part of the party!!! At some raves it seems to me that >he doesn't get the appreciation he deserves but this time he got and >everybody danced the hell out of his ass and I could even people hear >yelling while he was spinning a set of techno as its best. Later on I got >the pleasure to listen to ANONYMOUS, MICRON and PISTACHIO and since my >dedication is TRANCE I have to give some mad props out to them...:))) The >best music to listen to while the sun set was coming closer and closer and >the new day was being born. Love to you guys because your sets where damn >good and you created an epic party experience for me. > >THE PEOPLE: You guys rock!!! > >THANX TO EVERYBODY WHO MADE THIS PARTY HAPPEN, WHO GAVE THIS PARTY ITS >SPECIAL VIBE AND TO MAC!!! > >Love, Silvia > > > > On Sun, 23 May 1999 >Gammbino@aol.com wrote: > > > Hey everyone lasnights party up in the hills of vacaville AKA cowtown >was > > cool for the lil party it was The first two DJ's threw it off I'm not >sure of > > their names =( then around 11:30 Telene!!! came on and started to >scratch up > > the records!! and then this coo ass girl in baggy jeans and red tank top > > danced her heart out. I didn't get to see Greg Sandler,Pistachio,Tracer, >and > > the others cause I had to leave at 12:30 =( anyways James great party >and > > congrats to the newly weds!! > > > > > > PLUR > > ^v^Kent > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 16:16:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21825 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 16:16:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 21813 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 16:16:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 16:16:06 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 291; Tue, 25 May 1999 09:13:41 -0700 Message-ID: <374ACCFF.D85E7F7B@hrg.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 09:17:03 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Madhvi Dalal CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: does anyone understand house music?! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk House is here, house will never die. Theres still lots of dope house in the city. And theres more and more new slammin house djs getting the chance to play. Its not gone, you just gotta look. "when your in my hut, you know whats up, let your mind be free, relax your body, jump jump, a little higher, jump jump until you get tired, house your body, house your body" peace john r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 16:17:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22751 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 16:17:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 22740 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 16:17:45 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 16:17:45 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com (532) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iQADa02604; Tue, 25 May 1999 12:14:51 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: <392d6897.247c267b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:14:51 EDT Subject: Re: Flame Form: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com To: rumtumtug@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Netmail sub 2 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk just a thought. WHY continue to add junk to this list????? amber r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 16:49:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11070 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 16:48:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 11047 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 16:48:56 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 16:48:56 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (543) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vQUAa08612 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 12:48:19 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <902c18fd.247c2e49@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:48:09 EDT Subject: [nrr] one liner To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Q: What do you get it you cross a Pitbull terrier with a Labrador? A: A dog that scares the shit out of you then fetches the toilet paper From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 16:51:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12931 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 16:51:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 12912 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 16:51:35 -0000 Received: from f168.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.54) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 16:51:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 85527 invoked by uid 0); 25 May 1999 16:51:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525165108.85526.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 152.163.195.196 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 25 May 1999 09:51:06 PDT X-Originating-IP: [152.163.195.196] From: "dj boywonder" To: rick@lasvegas.net, dj_hak@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: you're killing the rave scene Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 09:51:06 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hmm people still need to learn how to be responsible, something that a lot of the younger ravers dont seem to understand...i know a lot of "kidz" who go to parties to get fucked up...and thats their only reason for going...most of the younger generation of ravers look at the scene as a place for them to rebel against their parents, society, etc..i know a few underage ravers who go and go sober, but sadley, that # is very few... Phucked-up Little Underage Ravers aaron Love the music...not the drugs... <-- seems to fit in this case doesnt it >From: "Vegas Rick" >To: "dj _haK" , >Subject: RE: you're killing the rave scene >Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:31:11 -0700 > >Since when are orgies and OD'ing exclusive to teenagers? No one throws a >party thinking "Yeah. We're gonna have a phat lineup that will make kids >kill themselves." It's a side-effect of the party. They don't need to go >their to do drugs, they can and will do them anywhere. > >It is the teenagers that give the scene its influx of energy and new styles >and such. Without them the scene would be dead because the older people get >tired of it or whatever and move on. It is their new blood that keep it >evolving and moving and in the spirit of what it first started in. > >Teens should have access to the culture they are creating, if they don't >have it, then they will create another one somewhere where they can do the >same types of things. And then the rave scene will be truly dead. > >--Vegas Rick >It takes considerable knowledge just to recognize the extent of your own >ignorance. > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves- owner@hyperreal.org]On >>Behalf Of dj _haK >>Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 4:08 PM >>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >>Subject: you're killing the rave scene >> >> >>what's wrong with the scene? after reading the post about >>'children of the >>sun'; i feel sick to my stomach. >>all the so called 'underground' rave parties are just a facade >>for mad drug >>orgies with 12-16 year old kids as the main clients! that is so >>phucked up >>beyond belief. >>do any of you promoters have any shame? or is the dollar stronger than a >>15yr olds life? when some 14 yr old dies from an OD, you can bet >>'20/20' or >>'dateline' or any of the media will through a negative slant on the scene >>and we'll all lose out. >>no one; save the parents, can make the choice for anyone under 18 >>legally. >>hell anyone under 18 can't even go to an 'R' movie. >>the line is crossed, promoters need to make parties 18 over; end of story. >>otherwise the rave scene is dead. >> >>hak >> >> >> >> > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 16:52:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14082 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 16:52:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 14065 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 16:52:48 -0000 Received: from f22.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.202) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 16:52:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 69240 invoked by uid 0); 25 May 1999 16:52:21 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525165221.69239.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.227.43.11 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 25 May 1999 09:52:21 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.227.43.11] From: "Fruit Cup" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: DUNE / Paul Van Dyk / 1015 Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 09:52:21 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk paul van dyk will be at nikita on fri, 6/18, the night before dune... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 17:03:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21835 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 17:03:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 21772 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 17:03:27 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 17:03:27 -0000 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.9.3/8.8.4) id KAA08726; Tue, 25 May 1999 10:03:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199905251703.KAA08726@atari.saturn5.com> Subject: Re: trance sux, house rox To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 10:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Cc: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <6db9cdb3.247ba707@aol.com> from "H4RDHOUSE@aol.com" at May 25, 99 03:11:03 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > > trance is for candy kids with one to many glowsticks, house is true sf style! ...and Macs are better than PC's... okay.. this is a JOKE... please don't continue this idiodic thread... -troy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks "I just don't have the discipline to be a hippie" <- Homer J. Simpson From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 17:11:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27723 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 17:11:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 27707 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 17:11:09 -0000 Received: from jmail.co.jp (HELO calvin.iac.co.jp) (209.85.120.230) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 17:11:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 28415 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 17:11:21 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO jmail.co.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 May 1999 17:11:21 -0000 From: "ProtoTypical Chris" Reply-to: prototype@raveaddict.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 10:11:21 GST -1080 Subject: Re: trance sux, house rox Message-id: <374ad9b9.6efb.0@jmail.co.jp> X-User-Info: 171.133.216.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >trance is for candy kids with one to many glowsticks, house is true sf style! > House is for just dancing. Trance is also for dancing, but it is also a pure form of communication. I can't meditate to house. Trance touches my mind and my heart and can move me in an almost spiritual manner. House sounds tight, but it's never done that for me. -=ProtoTypical Chris=- >><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><><><><><><><><><><> Like my COOL email address? Get one like it FREE at http://www.MUSICOSM.com ! Visit today! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 17:13:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28828 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 17:13:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 28816 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 17:13:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 17:13:20 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 234; Tue, 25 May 1999 10:10:54 -0700 Message-ID: <374ADA69.2B1A5D8C@hrg.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 10:14:17 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: prototype@raveaddict.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: trance sux, house rox References: <374ad9b9.6efb.0@jmail.co.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > House is for just dancing. > > Trance is also for dancing, but it is also a pure form of communication. I can't > meditate to house. Trance touches my mind and my heart and can move me in an > almost spiritual manner. > > House sounds tight, but it's never done that for me. try listening to deep house. john r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 17:15:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3209 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 17:15:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 2896 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 17:15:14 -0000 Received: from nettapp.nettwerk.com (HELO budd.nettwerk.com) (209.17.154.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 17:15:14 -0000 Received: from [216.101.68.178] (adsl-216-101-68-178.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [216.101.68.178]) by budd.nettwerk.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA27874 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 10:11:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: william@mailhost.nettwerk.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 10:18:36 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: william godoy Subject: Millennium Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Okay people, well I have a problem, I have all this intention of making new years a night to remember, but I have no place to go. Any place with my friends would be good enough for a million memories. The thing is I don't want to leave the states for New Years. I wanna be here. The only thing I heard of so far is the Pete Tong gig in New York. Does anyone know of anything for the New Year on the west coast or in the vicinity. And please don't say Vegas, hanging out with 1/4 + million drunk ass people is not my idea of good time. There is no meaning of truth in it. It's just silly debauchery. chilliam From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 17:16:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4706 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 17:16:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 4697 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 17:16:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aspen.sc-intl.com) (207.218.171.40) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 17:16:22 -0000 Received: by ASPEN with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Tue, 25 May 1999 10:18:43 -0700 Message-ID: <756B30A53DCBD111BABC00A0C981D4638A4124@ASPEN> From: "Ball, Tera" To: 'Troy Sheets' , H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Cc: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: trance sux, house rox Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 10:18:42 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk trance isn't just for candy kids! I like Trance but I am in no way a candy kid. Crappy Hardcore is more like candy kid music. but why do you have to be a certain type of person to like a certain type of music? -----Original Message----- From: Troy Sheets [mailto:tsheets@saturn5.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 10:03 AM To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Cc: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: trance sux, house rox > > trance is for candy kids with one to many glowsticks, house is true sf style! ...and Macs are better than PC's... okay.. this is a JOKE... please don't continue this idiodic thread... -troy ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks "I just don't have the discipline to be a hippie" <- Homer J. Simpson From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 17:22:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9760 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 17:22:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 9617 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 17:21:57 -0000 Received: from jmail.co.jp (HELO calvin.iac.co.jp) (209.85.120.230) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 17:21:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 499 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 17:22:09 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO jmail.co.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 May 1999 17:22:09 -0000 From: "ProtoTypical Chris" Reply-to: prototype@raveaddict.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 10:22:09 GST -1080 Subject: Re: trance sux, house rox Message-id: <374adc41.1ef.0@jmail.co.jp> X-User-Info: 171.133.216.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >trance is sum of the cheesiest corniest music u will ever hear, its for all >the candy kids with one to many glowsticks, obviously trance is just a small >candy kid fad, i mean, every1 in the uk and europe spin house, and they are >far ahead of us musically,andyway, house is bomb! Yeah, and we all know how vital it is that we do everything the Europeans do. Wouldn't want to come up with anything on our own. By the way, most of the most ass-kicking trance comes out of Germany and the UK. Sure, house rocks, but trance is a transcendental experience. But if that's too deep a concept for you, I understand. -=ProtoTypical Chris=- >><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><><><><><><><><><><> Like my COOL email address? Get one like it FREE at http://www.MUSICOSM.com ! Visit today! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 17:22:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10928 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 17:22:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 10898 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 17:22:55 -0000 Received: from heinlein.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 17:22:55 -0000 Received: from godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.43]) by heinlein.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) with ESMTP id NAA29512; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:19:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id NAA27506; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:19:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:19:24 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu To: Space201@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 18+ parties, how To regulate? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >>From my own experience, I started going to parties at 16 years old. And I didn't get my first over-dose at one until I was, uh guess what, 19. Don't stereotype, it's bad for you. You'll be a bitter old person that eats squirrels and hates Japanese people. and ps: i've never overdosed. that doesn't seem like a very responsible thing to do, are you sure you're still ready to handle this? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 17:23:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11066 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 17:23:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 10924 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 17:22:58 -0000 Received: from heinlein.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 17:22:58 -0000 Received: from godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.43]) by heinlein.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) with ESMTP id NAA29432; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:17:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id NAA27411; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:17:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:17:32 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu To: Space201@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 18+ parties, how To regulate? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk true, sterotyping is not a very healthy thing, but i don't eat squirrels and i don't hate japenese poeple, and how many poeple under 18 who go to parties actually have thier shit together. i can name 2 out of the many poeple i've met. that's not a lot. i agree that by losing the younger teens that we would be losing the youthful vibe, but you have to draw the line at some point. when you are still in high school you are still learning very important lessons on how to be responsible and take care of yourself when you no longer have your parents to rely on. you are still dependent. it doesn't matter if you moved out at 16, you still are dependent on poeple for some things. i know a girl, who at 16, seems more mature than i am, but she dropped out of high school, works at a job making $7 an hour and lives at home. sure she goes out and parties and never calls in sick to work, but what happened to school? too many poeple can't handle their shit and shcool at the same time, and when you are still a teen i think shcool is the MOST important thing. parties can come second, but that's not the way most people see it. i'm still not finished with my education, and after college i'll probably have another 4 years of graduate school ahead of me because i feel that an education is the only thing that will make you aware enough to survive. if poeple wouldn't let parties run their lives so much that they ruin their chances early on by forgetting about school i wouldn't have a problem, but too many of the poeple i know who are still in high school are at C average of failing, their parents are kicking them out of thier houses because they are addicted to speed, and they have no plans to go on to college, and you cannot go very far in this world without a college education, unless you get a lucky break. i know too many poeple who saw the temptation of taking drugs, and look where they are now - miserable because they have nothing to show for themselves. and the biggest thing about parties is that drugs ARE a big temptation. if there wasn't that problem, i think parties would be a great place for everyone! so to solve this issue , and to not ban a certain age group from parties, maybe we need to start cracking down on the amount of drugs in our scene. sure we can't stop people from doing them, but having such blatant use, and poeple yelling in your face "E! Acid! Coke!" doesn't help either. for promoters to start cracking down on the amount of pushy dealers would be a wonderful thing, and for more education of the "newbies" would really help our scene to grow. i don't remember who suggested the idea about taking newer ravers for a night out to show them more about our scene, but i think it's a good idea. i know i was quick to jump to the easy solution of banning underage ravers at parties, it was the easy way, but there are some better ways to make sure our scene is passed on successfuly to the younger generation. we just have to educate them first. much love, amber On Mon, 24 May 1999 Space201@aol.com wrote: > > Yes you may ask, I'm 23. I don't care what your explanations are for thinking > an under 18 person isn't capable of handling RAVES, it's a generalization. > True, there are a lot of stupid kids, but there are kids with a FIRM grip of > reality. More than I had when I was their age. And there are ADULTS without > one. > > From my own experience, I started going to parties at 16 years old. And I > didn't get my first over-dose at one until I was, uh guess what, 19. > Don't stereotype, it's bad for you. You'll be a bitter old person that eats > squirrels and hates Japanese people. > > In a message dated 5/24/99 4:40:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, akp2@duke.edu > writes: > > << >That is QUITE the HARSH stereotype. > > not really. may i ask how old you are? i'm not trying to flam eyou but > i thought i knew everything as an 15-18 year old when i really didn't. i > got into college and discovered the whole frat/sorority party drinking > thing and went overboard with that even though i had graduated high > school. to put it bluntly, even at 18 poeple still don't have enough > expirience to make wise decisions. there will be teenagers who are very > responsible and mature, but years of exiprience are what you should be > judged upon. i'm no wise woman (lesie should be a good resource for this > considering she has raised a wonderful girl who used to be my best friend > in my younger years) but i can tell that i used to think i was invincible > and now that i look back i see how stupid and young i acted, and i feel > i've changed for the better now and learned somr valuable lessons. but i > don't think poeple should be learning those kind of life lessons at > parties, especially with the huge temptation to do drugs. when you are a > teen, i don't care WHO you are, you haven't been alive long enough to > make the right choices, and it's very easy to ruin your life by becoming a > rebelloius child, doing so many drugs that you forget about school and > work and your after school activities. if everyone was meant to be grown > up by 16 then why don't we see 16 year olds with PhD's and doctorates, > living on their won with full time jobs already having BA's under their > belts? poeple just don't grow up that fast, and you really need to be a > grown up to handle partying. i'm not putting myself on a pedastle and > saying that i'm a grownup, cuz i'm not, but i sure know how to get my > life together to be successful that i'm not going to get sidetracked by > temptations. >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 17:23:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11973 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 17:23:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 11708 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 17:23:24 -0000 Received: from catbert.ucdavis.edu (root@169.237.105.32) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 17:23:24 -0000 Received: from localhost (sschumac@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by catbert.ucdavis.edu (8.9.3/UCD3.13.10) with ESMTP id KAA29041; Tue, 25 May 1999 10:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 10:22:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Silvia Schumacher X-Sender: sschumac@catbert.ucdavis.edu To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com cc: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: trance sux, house rox In-Reply-To: <6db9cdb3.247ba707@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 25 May 1999 H4RDHOUSE@aol.com wrote: > trance is for candy kids with one to many glowsticks, house is true sf style! > What the hell??? Please don't speak in such a way!!! I know many tranceheads out there who are definetely no candyravers and show a true dedication to the music just like the original sf housers do to their music... And for me, trance is my true love but hey maybe that's because I am from Frankfurt, one of the trance cities of the world... Please show some respect to the different styles of electronica... Love, Silvia From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 17:29:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18023 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 17:29:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 18002 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 17:29:09 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 17:29:09 -0000 Received: from NavySatan@aol.com (14389) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id hATEa27309; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:26:27 -0400 (EDT) From: NavySatan@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:26:26 EDT Subject: Re: trance sux, house rox To: sschumacher@ucdavis.edu, H4RDHOUSE@aol.com CC: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well just out of expressing my own feelings... House moves me, Trance puts me to sleep... peace out Yo :D From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 17:37:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21421 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 17:37:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 21398 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 17:37:09 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 17:37:09 -0000 Received: from DNGRBOY9@aol.com (3924) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id kRAUa15563; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:35:37 -0400 (EDT) From: DNGRBOY9@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:35:36 EDT Subject: Re: THIS LIST IS CRAZY RIGHT NOW! To: jer@best.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/25/1999 1:29:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jer@best.com writes: << Well... I didn't read the 50+ posts about 18+ or kids at parties, yadda yadda yadda. I only have one thing to say about anyone bitchi >> I have to say I agree here>>>if you really want your opinion to count, keep yer postings to a min. of 50 words> Otherwise fate of the almighty delete button.:sarcasm: From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 17:41:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23541 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 17:41:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 23502 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 17:41:22 -0000 Received: from jmail.co.jp (HELO calvin.iac.co.jp) (209.85.120.230) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 17:41:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 3998 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 17:41:38 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO jmail.co.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 May 1999 17:41:38 -0000 From: "ProtoTypical Chris" Reply-to: prototype@raveaddict.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 10:41:38 GST -1080 Subject: Re: trance sux, house rox Message-id: <374ae0d2.f98.0@jmail.co.jp> X-User-Info: 171.133.216.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >well just out of expressing my own feelings... House moves me, Trance puts me >to sleep... >peace out Yo >:D You're obviously listening to the wrong trance. Sure there's trance that'll put you to sleep, and I happen to like that stuff too, under the right circumstances, but there's plenty of thumpin' trance. Fuckin' hard trance is the super-shit. -=ProtoTypical Chris=- >><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><><><><><><><><><><> Like my COOL email address? Get one like it FREE at http://www.MUSICOSM.com ! Visit today! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 17:41:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23623 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 17:41:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 23501 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 17:41:22 -0000 Received: from jmail.co.jp (HELO calvin.iac.co.jp) (209.85.120.230) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 17:41:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 3998 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 17:41:38 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO jmail.co.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 May 1999 17:41:38 -0000 From: "ProtoTypical Chris" Reply-to: prototype@raveaddict.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 10:41:38 GST -1080 Subject: Re: trance sux, house rox Message-id: <374ae0d2.f98.0@jmail.co.jp> X-User-Info: 171.133.216.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >well just out of expressing my own feelings... House moves me, Trance puts me >to sleep... >peace out Yo >:D You're obviously listening to the wrong trance. Sure there's trance that'll put you to sleep, and I happen to like that stuff too, under the right circumstances, but there's plenty of thumpin' trance. Fuckin' hard trance is the super-shit. -=ProtoTypical Chris=- >><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><><><><><><><><><><> Like my COOL email address? Get one like it FREE at http://www.MUSICOSM.com ! Visit today! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 17:46:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26312 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 17:45:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 26302 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 17:45:57 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 17:45:57 -0000 Received: from DNGRBOY9@aol.com (4538) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id pWDRa02575; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:44:41 -0400 (EDT) From: DNGRBOY9@aol.com Message-ID: <19afcaa2.247c3b89@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:44:41 EDT Subject: Re: trance sux, house rox To: prototype@raveaddict.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/25/1999 10:41:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time, prototype@raveaddict.com writes: << Fuckin' hard trance is the super-shit. >> RIGHTO MATE! you tell 'em!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 17:47:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27387 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 17:47:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 27377 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 17:47:09 -0000 Received: from jmail.co.jp (HELO calvin.iac.co.jp) (209.85.120.230) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 17:47:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 5096 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 17:47:25 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO jmail.co.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 May 1999 17:47:25 -0000 From: "ProtoTypical Chris" Reply-to: prototype@raveaddict.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 10:47:25 GST -1080 Subject: Re: THIS LIST IS CRAZY RIGHT NOW! Message-id: <374ae22d.13d5.0@jmail.co.jp> X-User-Info: 171.133.216.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >In a message dated 5/25/1999 1:29:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jer@best.com >writes: > ><< Well... I didn't read the 50+ posts about 18+ or kids at parties, yadda > yadda yadda. I only have one thing to say about anyone bitchi >> >I have to say I agree here>>>if you really want your opinion to count, keep >yer postings to a min. of >50 words> Otherwise fate of the almighty delete button.:sarcasm: > Actually, I'd like messages to be MORE than 50 words. I hate going through 40 messages with shit like: "Ha ha! That is so funny!" "Hi! I'm back!" "I totally agree with you!" If you agree, that's great, but don't respond unless you have something significant to add. I don't know about everyone else, but my E-Mail runs through a web site, and every message is accessed through a hypertext link, and I have to wait for the mail to load, and then when I'm done reading, I have to wait for my list of remaining messages to load, etc, and it takes forever. -=ProtoTypical Chris=- >><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><><><><><><><><><><> Like my COOL email address? Get one like it FREE at http://www.MUSICOSM.com ! Visit today! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 17:54:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2670 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 17:54:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 2651 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 17:54:41 -0000 Received: from jmail.co.jp (HELO calvin.iac.co.jp) (209.85.120.230) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 17:54:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 6419 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 17:54:57 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO jmail.co.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 May 1999 17:54:57 -0000 From: "ProtoTypical Chris" Reply-to: prototype@raveaddict.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 10:54:57 GST -1080 Subject: Re: trance sux, house rox Message-id: <374ae3f1.190d.0@jmail.co.jp> X-User-Info: 171.133.216.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >In a message dated 5/25/1999 10:41:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >prototype@raveaddict.com writes: > ><< Fuckin' hard trance is the super-shit. > >> >RIGHTO MATE! you tell 'em!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Damn straight. Also, for all you house/breaks people, just check out the shit coming out of Tinrib Recordings. THAT shit will move you like nothing else. The Captain is a god. -=ProtoTypical Chris=- >><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><><><><><><><><><><> Like my COOL email address? Get one like it FREE at http://www.MUSICOSM.com ! Visit today! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 18:11:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15536 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 18:11:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 15421 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 18:11:27 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 18:11:27 -0000 Received: from user (access-50-192.ixpres.com [209.75.50.192]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA03136; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:12:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990525110639.006df7f8@mail.ixpres.com> X-Sender: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 11:06:39 -0700 To: Silvia Schumacher , H4RDHOUSE@aol.com From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: variety makes the spice flow :-) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: References: <6db9cdb3.247ba707@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Silvia, I agree 100%. I sent an earlier post stating my feelings on trance and someone else said it well when they said our scene THRIVES on diversity. Trance is the SHIT and so is house. i'm glad to see house isn't as hated as i thought...b/c i love it. And i also dont' think u gotta be a "candy kid" to like trance...you can be anything you are and like anything you want. Saying only candy kids like trance is a narrow way to think. muah madhvi At 10:22 AM 5/25/99 -0700, Silvia Schumacher wrote: > > >On Tue, 25 May 1999 H4RDHOUSE@aol.com wrote: > >> trance is for candy kids with one to many glowsticks, house is true sf style! >> > >What the hell??? >Please don't speak in such a way!!! I know many tranceheads out there who >are definetely no candyravers and show a true dedication to the music >just like the original sf housers do to their music... And for me, trance >is my true love but hey maybe that's because I am from Frankfurt, one of >the trance cities of the world... Please show some respect to the >different styles of electronica... > >Love, Silvia > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 18:13:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17621 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 18:13:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 17590 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 18:13:49 -0000 Received: from pohl.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 18:13:49 -0000 Received: from godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.43]) by pohl.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id OAA24210; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:08:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id OAA01087; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:08:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 14:08:03 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu To: Kitana3737@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: the age thing... again. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ps - i have been to an 18+ club once. [buzz in DC before it closed] and the difference between this 18+ crowd and an all ages one-off was starkly visible. i`m sure drug usage was as rampant in this crowd, but it was much more under control. i saw less people rolling all over the ground, or approaching me clearly under chemically-induced emotions..... i think i can say the difference can be attributed to the age difference as opposed to a bay-area <--> washington DC difference. EXACTLY!!! i have had the benefit of being in two different scenes, the south east and the west coast, and from going to parties in NC, atlanta, DC, florida and richmond, VA, i NEVER saw as much rampant drug use as i have here. sure poeple did their fair share, but there weren't as many OD's, weren't as many poeple lying on the ground so drugged they couldn't think, basically weren't as many problems with over use of drugs. you could argue that this was because the parties weren't as big, but no, it was because most of the events were 18+, and they had to do this for legal reasons (no one under 18 allowed in areas serving alcohol.) and parties tended to have VERY strict security, unlike in sf. i would hate to see the youth of our scene disappear, but the youth is not as eduacted as they should be, and that duty is not completly up to us. it's the parents responsibilty to educate and create a good relationship with their kids. i suggested the idea of better education for the kids in our scene, and i loved galen's suggestion of information about drugs/rave ettiqite on voicemail and flyers and pamphlets. we should give this a try, but if it doesn't work, i think the best next solution is to make parties 18+. much love, amber --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 18:15:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19241 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 18:15:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 19123 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 18:15:39 -0000 Received: from tapeheads.ednet.net (HELO mail.ednet.net) (216.112.68.132) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 18:15:39 -0000 Received: from [216.112.68.221] (HELO [10.0.0.2]) by mail.ednet.net (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b2) with ESMTP id S.0000336486; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:15:38 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: joe@mail.ednet.net Message-Id: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 11:15:42 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Joe Rice Subject: [bsp] Static tonight Cc: ug-update@topica.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Static 25 May 1999: AUBREY HOERMANN [live - Odic Force, Detroit] HATATOMIC [live] E-SASSIN residents: joe rice, safety scissors, quantum23 [STATIC] Every Tuesday Techno, Drum and Bass, Downtempo, Electro, Experimental... With resident DJs Joe Rice, Sutekh, Bre Ad, Re Ach, Quantum23, Sean Murray, Safety Scissors, Tomas, and J-Bird. At the Cat's Club: 1190 Folsom St. 10pm-2am. $5 cover. 21+ News, upcoming guests, realaudio, and more at: http://www.belief-systems.com/static From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 18:24:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24453 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 18:24:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 24017 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 18:23:23 -0000 Received: from mailgate.cadence.com (158.140.2.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 18:23:23 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.cadence.com (8.8.5/8.6.8) id LAA28656 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub2.Cadence.COM(158.140.128.8) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (mjr-v1.2) id xma927656593.028636; Tue, 25 May 99 11:23:13 -0700 Received: from urbanassault.org (d15814038120 [158.140.38.120]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20182 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <374AEAB7.600BCF51@urbanassault.org> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 11:23:52 -0700 From: Siphon Reply-To: siphon@urbanassault.org Organization: Urban Assault X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: A Call Out to All Promoters References: <3eb7d137.247b83bb@aol.com> <005601bea672$a1f31ea0$f896b3d1@ianvogel> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think we're missing the point here. The reason for 18+ parties is more of a "legal" issue. And most importantly a safety precaution for our younger crowd. I'm not saying that making all parties 18+ are going to stop the OD's or the irresponsible actions taken by all individuals - regardless of age. What I'm trying to say is that we need to start some where. Taking the underage element out of an all night event will change a huge amount of issues on its own. Maybe we need to start thinking about that!!! As Uncle Noah mentioned - Maybe we should have more events that stop at curfew limits. And "all night" events should be limited to 18+. Show the city we're trying to make a difference and they might start listening to us! Maybe even allow more events geared towards younger crowds. But these all night events don't look good to the city when minors are involved. Its the wrong approach. And we might loose it all. We may say to the police or the city "its just a dance party". But when they see people getting carried out into ambulances it doesn't look like a dance party. And when they see minors its gets even uglier!!! The dance culture called rave is out of hand and we are not in control of the situation! Its time to establish limits before more young people get hurt or die. It starts with the promoting and types of parties available. And most of all it starts with those under the age of 18 to understand the principles behind the discussions. _____________________ S i p h o n Urban Assault [99] info: 408.882.5064 http://www.urbanassault.org From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 18:24:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24457 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 18:24:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 24003 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 18:23:22 -0000 Received: from fortune-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO fortune.excite.com) (198.3.99.203) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 18:23:22 -0000 Received: from digger.excite.com ([199.172.152.82]) by fortune.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990525182254.DAJR8528.fortune@digger.excite.com> for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:22:54 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: summarizing 18-up Message-Id: <927656574.12861.879@excite.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 11:22:54 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk excuse me for oversimplifying... but here's what i'm getting from the posts... perspective #1 --- wah, wah, wah, you guys are mean, because i'm not 18 and it's not fair if i can't party too. (note, many of these are sent from email addresses that have direct raving and/or drug references, and contain interesting interpretations of the spelling of english language words, sad but true) perspective #2 -- if everyone can't come, then it's not raving, and besides kids are so creative, it wouldn't be the same without them. (i agree... in a perfect universe... unfortunately, i don't think many parents and/or police depts will agree, and then.... no one parties) perspective #3 --- those kiddiots are all useless anyway, and we don't need 'em. (fortunately, not much of that) perspective #4 -- (which is mine) ... much as i might miss the two or three mature under-18s out there... frankly, i rave in order to be able to dance ALLNIGHT without having ambulances pull up and the cops show up because someone's mommy called. and if that means that parties need to be limited to people who are *legally responsible* for themselves, then so be it. because raving is about the music and having a place to dance all night.... and while in a perfect world we might solve this problem more easily without creating b arriers to kiddies.... this is not a perfect world... and bottom line, maybe the adults need to look at how we have to think of protecting our right to party, even if it means breaking a few young hearts ... but remember kiddies.... if we can keep the scene alive this way, it will be there when you're old enough.... otherwise, at the rate we're going, you'll be waiting until you're 21 to go to clubs... that's three long years more. possible middle ground....how about... 18 up... unless your actual parent delivers you to the party with a letter of release and instructions on what to do for you in an emergency? (not sure if that's even legal in permitted events) -- and the buddy system idea is interesting, but not legally viable, there still would be liability, i think. i know this is harsh, but having someone's long-planned investment of time and energy disappear at midnight because someone wasn't supposed to be there is harsher. leslie (and hey, did someone imply that i dress candy? i hope not! distinctive costume, maybe, but i never wear plastic, only vintage sterling silver and quality jewelry... though i do wear fat pants!) Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 18:25:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26590 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 18:25:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 26500 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 18:25:36 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 18:25:36 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA27568 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:25:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from unknown-73-193-56.nextel.com(168.73.193.56) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma027526; Tue May 25 13:24:28 1999 Message-ID: <004f01bea6db$d26c15a0$38c149a8@nextel.com> From: "Happy Kids" To: References: <6db9cdb3.247ba707@aol.com> <3.0.3.32.19990525110639.006df7f8@mail.ixpres.com> Subject: Re: variety makes the spice flow :-) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 11:24:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk this topic is SO dumb and your replies just worsen the waste of bandwidth. just ignore the idiocy. -i ----- Original Message ----- From: Madhvi Dalal To: Silvia Schumacher ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 11:06 AM Subject: variety makes the spice flow :-) > > Silvia, I agree 100%. I sent an earlier post stating my feelings on trance > and someone else said it well when they said our scene THRIVES on > diversity. Trance is the SHIT and so is house. i'm glad to see house > isn't as hated as i thought...b/c i love it. And i also dont' think u > gotta be a "candy kid" to like trance...you can be anything you are and > like anything you want. Saying only candy kids like trance is a narrow way > to think. > > muah > > madhvi > > > At 10:22 AM 5/25/99 -0700, Silvia Schumacher wrote: > > > > > >On Tue, 25 May 1999 H4RDHOUSE@aol.com wrote: > > > >> trance is for candy kids with one to many glowsticks, house is true sf > style! > >> > > > >What the hell??? > >Please don't speak in such a way!!! I know many tranceheads out there who > >are definetely no candyravers and show a true dedication to the music > >just like the original sf housers do to their music... And for me, trance > >is my true love but hey maybe that's because I am from Frankfurt, one of > >the trance cities of the world... Please show some respect to the > >different styles of electronica... > > > >Love, Silvia > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 18:35:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8762 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 18:35:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 8630 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 18:35:44 -0000 Received: from mailgate.cadence.com (158.140.2.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 18:35:44 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.cadence.com (8.8.5/8.6.8) id LAA03522; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:35:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.Cadence.COM(158.140.128.33) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (mjr-v1.2) id xma927657339.003506; Tue, 25 May 99 11:35:39 -0700 Received: from urbanassault.org (d15814038120 [158.140.38.120]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA27047; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:35:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <374AEDA5.D11F4350@urbanassault.org> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 11:36:21 -0700 From: Siphon Reply-To: siphon@urbanassault.org Organization: Urban Assault X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Madhvi Dalal CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: does anyone understand house music?! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Madhvi Dalal wrote: > I'd like to > know when everyone (or lots of you ) started hating house or what you think > it seems to be lacking now. It lacks breaks! ;) So I'm a bit biased to dnb. =b To be honest I used to love house - still do on occasion (Jonny Fiasco was or may still be the shit) - but in my eyes it hasn't evolved to my liking. I can only speak for myself. Respects, _____________________ S i p h o n Urban Assault [99] info: 408.882.5064 http://www.urbanassault.org From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 18:43:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16349 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 18:43:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 16262 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 18:43:03 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 18:43:03 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com (4543) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iOUEa02587; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:38:46 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 14:38:45 EDT Subject: Re: DUNE / Paul Van Dyk / 1015 To: fruitcup@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Is nikita 18+ ? cuz I would really hate to lose the chance to see one of my favorite dj's in the world... cuz i go to parties for the music... nut i dunno fuck it im too immature to be there and no one really wants me there matt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 18:45:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19740 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 18:45:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 19621 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 18:45:40 -0000 Received: from mole.slip.net (207.171.193.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 18:45:40 -0000 Received: from [207.171.214.12] (helo=exchange1.vertical.com) by mole.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 10mMCo-0002kZ-00 for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:45:38 -0700 Received: by Exchange1.vertical.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:41:52 -0700 Message-ID: From: Monique Whittaker To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: DUNE / Paul Van Dyk / 1015 Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 11:41:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Actually, Nikita is 21+. Sorry. -----Original Message----- From: AdidasXE7@aol.com [mailto:AdidasXE7@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 11:39 AM To: fruitcup@hotmail.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: DUNE / Paul Van Dyk / 1015 Is nikita 18+ ? cuz I would really hate to lose the chance to see one of my favorite dj's in the world... cuz i go to parties for the music... nut i dunno fuck it im too immature to be there and no one really wants me there matt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 18:46:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20254 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 18:46:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 20008 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 18:45:54 -0000 Received: from netcom19.netcom.com (lime@192.100.81.132) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 18:45:54 -0000 Received: (from lime@localhost) by netcom19.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id LAA14777; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:45:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Simonich Message-Id: <199905251845.LAA14777@netcom19.netcom.com> Subject: Re: DUNE / Paul Van Dyk / 1015 To: AdidasXE7@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 11:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Cc: fruitcup@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: from "AdidasXE7@aol.com" at May 25, 99 02:38:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > > Is nikita 18+ ? cuz I would really hate to lose the chance to see one of my > favorite dj's in the world... cuz i go to parties for the music... nut i > dunno fuck it im too immature to be there and no one really wants me there > > matt > Actually, Nikita is 21+, cause it's a bar/nightclub. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news... (I can partially comisserate tho, as I have to miss it also, due to the fact that I'm gonna be in New Orleans for work that week.) -Opus From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 18:48:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24321 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 18:48:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 24220 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 18:48:25 -0000 Received: from web113.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.84) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 18:48:25 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525184825.7713.rocketmail@web113.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web113.yahoomail.com; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:48:25 PDT Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 11:48:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: A QUESTION FOR JUNGLIST DJs To: SF Raver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The more I look into jungle/drum & bass, the more I notice how diverse the styes within it is. I was wondering what some of the musical influences you DJs have used to bring jungle to where it is today. *HUGZ* pat From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 18:51:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26295 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 18:51:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 26174 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 18:50:59 -0000 Received: from web707.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.27) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 18:50:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525184820.16663.rocketmail@web707.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.242.20.101] by web707.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:48:20 PDT Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 11:48:20 -0700 (PDT) From: mike bolger Subject: Re: you're killing the rave scene To: Tekno313@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > > It died a long time ago... what makes you say that ? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 19:01:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6324 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 19:01:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 6214 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 19:01:00 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 19:01:00 -0000 Received: from BryanLee21@aol.com (393) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id uIRKa15308; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:58:58 -0400 (EDT) From: BryanLee21@aol.com Message-ID: <46d3e4b4.247c4cf1@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 14:58:57 EDT Subject: Re: A Call Out to All Promoters To: happykids@happykidsproductions.org, WWoodliff@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Damn Ian, Right ON Bro. Im glad some else out there thinks there are shit promotions going on and Im glad that there are responsible promoters like yourself still left around. Bryan Lee Global Energy Musik From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 19:06:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10715 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 19:06:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 10705 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 19:06:41 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 19:06:41 -0000 Received: from BryanLee21@aol.com (393) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vFKMa26412; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:05:17 -0400 (EDT) From: BryanLee21@aol.com Message-ID: <3e43f74.247c4e6c@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:05:16 EDT Subject: Re: trance sux, house rox To: BigM009@aol.com, H4RDHOUSE@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey Ralph, I'd like for you to sit in a studio and see if you could come up with a trance track that will rock the top charts. Trance isnt cheesy, neither is house, or any other type of musik you can think of. And, not all the UK Djs are spinning house and they definately dont think that we are behind them. A lot of the UK djs love playing here because we still have what they have lost over the years. There is still some form of an underground element left in the US. They arent better and neither are we. They are just different ,like the many styles of musik we represent. Just leave it at that. Bryan Lee Global Energy Musik From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 19:06:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11148 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 19:06:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 10979 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 19:06:49 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 19:06:49 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com (7988) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vXOKa02587 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:04:52 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:04:52 EDT Subject: this bloody age crap! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Netmail sub 2 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk okay it does sound a bit like attacking ALL the kids (under 18) but hey we all have to wait for certain amenities in life.. (i.e. a drivers liscense, clubs, alcohol, gambling, etc...) its to protect you, and you will only trully understand that once you have crossed the threshold from child to adult! and no I don't mean losing the inner child.. but there are some cold hard facts about life, that aren't fully understood untill your put in the situation to understand them. being responsible doesn't always make up for life experience. I wish i could go back (don't ask me why, but i do) and just be free from worries and stress and total responsibilaty, and just hang out with my friends, but that door in my life has closed and whats behind door #2 is just awesome! wait till you get here to see it! , but for right now enjoy what you have, because time is cruel and slips by to fast. please just enjoy living in the present and be thankfull for all that you dooo have. <3 amber r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 19:10:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15277 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 19:10:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 15262 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 19:10:09 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 19:10:09 -0000 Received: from TonicBond@aol.com (8028) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHPLa02587; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:09:23 -0400 (EDT) From: TonicBond@aol.com Message-ID: <45fecf8d.247c4f62@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:09:22 EDT Subject: Re: RE: trance sux, house rox To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I for one think that's this needs to stop. It doesn't matter what type of music you like, if you don't like the music go home or change rooms or throw your own parties. It doesn't matter what you wear, if you don't like the style then don't wear it, but don't judge those that do!!! thank you for ending this stupid thred:) AME From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 19:10:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15730 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 19:10:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 15585 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 19:10:17 -0000 Received: from mailgate.cadence.com (158.140.2.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 19:10:17 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.cadence.com (8.8.5/8.6.8) id MAA15543; Tue, 25 May 1999 12:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.Cadence.COM(158.140.128.33) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (mjr-v1.2) id xma927659416.015541; Tue, 25 May 99 12:10:16 -0700 Received: from urbanassault.org (d15814038120 [158.140.38.120]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16472; Tue, 25 May 1999 12:10:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <374AF5C2.3CAADB0B@urbanassault.org> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:10:58 -0700 From: Siphon Reply-To: siphon@urbanassault.org Organization: Urban Assault X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick Seaton CC: SF Raver Subject: Re: A QUESTION FOR JUNGLIST DJs References: <19990525184825.7713.rocketmail@web113.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Speaking for my self: Jazz, Industrial, rock, blues, house, techno, trance, downtempo, hiphop, etc. etc. etc.. Jungle is no one single thing, it's a magpie genre taking from the entire spectrum of music as it sees fit. Jungle is multicultural. Flowing in all directions, drawing influences from everywhere and inevitably becoming an influence itself - a concept for the breakbeat scientists. Jungle, Drum 'n' Bass, Darkcore, Ragga, Artcore, Jazzy Jungle, Jazz step, Hardstep, Techstep, Rollers and Jump Up. It all comes down to one thing in the end... THE BREAKBEAT. _____________________ S i p h o n Urban Assault [99] info: 408.882.5064 http://www.urbanassault.org Patrick Seaton wrote: > > The more I look into jungle/drum & bass, the more I notice how diverse > the styes within it is. I was wondering what some of the musical > influences you DJs have used to bring jungle to where it is today. > > *HUGZ* > pat From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 19:14:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18190 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 19:14:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 18169 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 19:14:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO osiris.vegasquick.com) (root@209.101.75.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 19:14:42 -0000 Received: from seker (seker.socalraves.com [209.101.75.16] (may be forged)) by osiris.vegasquick.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA22487 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:14:46 -0700 From: "Vegas Rick" To: "'Sfraves@hyperreal. org'" Subject: RE: You're killing the rave scene Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:05:59 -0700 Message-ID: <000901bea6e1$9fd150a0$104b65d1@t2000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I see. So you're stereotypes of what a teen did in 1988 dictates the fact that they didn't create this culture? It was people like me in 1988 (I was 16 then) who went to the parties and passed out flyers and bought tapes from artists that made their labels look like soap boxes. It was other teenagers like me who told their friends about it, practiced PLUR regularly and helped to create the culture. Do you think it was some 35 year old woman who created the PLUR signature in a time when all the teens had signatures? The underground parties that played techno music were by no means "raves" as they had even MORE drugs than a rave does now, charged $30 bucks to get in to hear someone play a tape and charged $15 for a warm beer. ANY music culture that is not Yanni, Kenny G or Michael Bolton is created by teens. Older people create and produce the music but it is the teens that spend their money to buy the albums, go to the concerts and pay for the other paraphernalia. It is they who gather all of their friends together and sneak out of the house to listen to a specific DJ play. If you go to ANY all ages party, you'll see an overwhelming percentage of the population to be teenager. If you go to 18+ or 21+ parties, the only thing you'll get is a smaller party. Let's look at some big parties. Dune III in SoCal last year had a death. 24 year old John Abel plummeted to his death after ingesting LSD and E. The Moontribe death in February was of a 21 year old male as well. The list goes on. It happens on BOTH sides of the age line. The only reason why you tend to see more teens on the floor is because the older people have the experience to go and find a quiet place to do it, or they have their own car to drive home, or the money to get a cab. If you're looking for blindness look beyond your own myopic stereotypes to see that the drug culture that is being perpetuated is being done so by the 21+ crowd who can a) afford to do the drugs; b) have the chemistry degree to create the drugs and c) have the resources to sell them. I'm not saying that teenagers are victims, but don't be so inane as to put a blanket statement upon them such as "they are all rolling around in e-puddles" or "they all flounder in 2nd/Jackson shit." If you got a problem with the evolution of raves, don't go. Get your own damn wax and invite others that share your views and go into your room at your Mom's house and play them until she makes you turn out the lights at 10. Or throw a party for your exclusive, older crowd and watch the attendance decrease, the vibe suck and the people who would normally go to some hip-hop club in the marina (after sushi, of course) show up at your door because they "want to see what this 'rave thing' is all about." Full On! --Vegas Rick And in thy gentle speech, a prophecy... > -----Original Message----- > From: dj _haK [mailto:dj_hak@hotmail.com] > Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 7:03 PM > To: rick@lasvegas.net; dj_hak@hotmail.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: you're killing the rave scene > > > first off, teens did not create this culture, they were to busy > in 88 playing with my little pony and nintendo. the druggies > should stay home. finally, if it's the teens vibrant energy that > is pushing the rave scene past boundries, how come they are > always lying on the floor fucked up, rolling in nasty ass > 2nd/jackson shit? > dude wake up. teens emulate whatever is going on at the moment; > and the moment is drugs @ raves. > > don't be blind. just look at the situation around you. > > hak > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Vegas Rick" > To: "dj _haK" , > Subject: RE: you're killing the rave scene > Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:31:11 -0700 > > Since when are orgies and OD'ing exclusive to teenagers? No one throws a > party thinking "Yeah. We're gonna have a phat lineup that will make kids > kill themselves." It's a side-effect of the party. They don't need to go > their to do drugs, they can and will do them anywhere. > > It is the teenagers that give the scene its influx of energy and > new styles > and such. Without them the scene would be dead because the older > people get > tired of it or whatever and move on. It is their new blood that keep it > evolving and moving and in the spirit of what it first started in. > > Teens should have access to the culture they are creating, if they don't > have it, then they will create another one somewhere where they can do the > same types of things. And then the rave scene will be truly dead. > > --Vegas Rick > It takes considerable knowledge just to recognize the extent of your own > ignorance. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of dj _haK > Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 4:08 PM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: you're killing the rave scene > > > what's wrong with the scene? after reading the post about > 'children of the > sun'; i feel sick to my stomach. > all the so called 'underground' rave parties are just a facade > for mad drug > orgies with 12-16 year old kids as the main clients! that is so > phucked up > beyond belief. > do any of you promoters have any shame? or is the dollar stronger than a > 15yr olds life? when some 14 yr old dies from an OD, you can bet > '20/20' or > 'dateline' or any of the media will through a negative slant on the scene > and we'll all lose out. > no one; save the parents, can make the choice for anyone under 18 > legally. > hell anyone under 18 can't even go to an 'R' movie. > the line is crossed, promoters need to make parties 18 over; end of story. > otherwise the rave scene is dead. > > hak > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 19:26:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26077 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 19:26:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 26060 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 19:26:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO osiris.vegasquick.com) (root@209.101.75.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 19:26:23 -0000 Received: from seker (seker.socalraves.com [209.101.75.16] (may be forged)) by osiris.vegasquick.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA22545; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:25:42 -0700 From: "Vegas Rick" To: , "Johnathan Flight" , Subject: RE: DUNE Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:16:55 -0700 Message-ID: <000a01bea6e3$2743e2e0$104b65d1@t2000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <000701bea668$325392a0$b4570118@C42488-A.pinol1.sfba.home.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > Dune IV was not $20... they were only able to recover revenue for about > 3000 kids > although more than 8000 showed up (and got in without paying). There were a lot of people that got in without paying. But they got funds from over 6,000 of them. > I'm sure > they are > gonna once again blow us away with their visuals they have planned this > year, > and sound will be great. world class lineup. True. > These guys ARENT in this to make a cent. hahahahahaha! Right! That's why they have tickets on sale this year at ticketweb.com I'm not saying that you don't get your money's worth at Dune, because you do. I would pay even more to go. But don't be so foolish as to believe that they won't be making any money. With an expected 10,000 people this year at $15 a pop. They can't help but make money and they are very aware of this. They are a great group of folks, all of them. But at the same time, there is something to be said about the power they're trying to attain. > and with the john abel event last year (kid wandering off AGAINST all > warnings and exclamations > and pleading by the promoters not to climb, wander off, or endanger > themselves (on flyers, website, > and told to every car at the location as they bought tix)... I'm > sure they > have a lot more liability they > have to cover and press attention they have to account for-which costs > money. Someone died at their event. 'Nuff said. If this was your party, that you were responsible for, and someone DIED, would you throw another one? Maybe so. Would you throw another one that is even bigger and more ambitious than the last one? Probably not. It's an altogether confusing thing. Because Dune IS such a great party and you can tell that Brad and everyone that throws it really loves to party with a great vibe and that comes across in the locations they pick and the people they invite to play. But at the same time, the overall expanse of it may be getting out of hand. This year will be a defining moment, I think, as to whether the Dune mythos will continue in its vein of amazing parties, or whether it will become one of those that will later on have signs around saying "Coca-Cola and Depends present Dune VIII." Time will tell. --Vegas Rick http://users.vegas.net/~blues From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 19:27:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26935 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 19:27:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 26879 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 19:27:15 -0000 Received: from mailgate.cadence.com (158.140.2.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 19:27:15 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.cadence.com (8.8.5/8.6.8) id MAA22039; Tue, 25 May 1999 12:26:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub2.Cadence.COM(158.140.128.8) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (mjr-v1.2) id xma927660414.022037; Tue, 25 May 99 12:26:54 -0700 Received: from urbanassault.org (d15814038120 [158.140.38.120]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA24881; Tue, 25 May 1999 12:26:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <374AF9A8.FA166500@urbanassault.org> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:27:36 -0700 From: Siphon Reply-To: siphon@urbanassault.org Organization: Urban Assault X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vegas Rick CC: "'Sfraves@hyperreal. org'" Subject: Re: You're killing the rave scene References: <000901bea6e1$9fd150a0$104b65d1@t2000> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Vegas Rick wrote: > The only reason why you tend to see more teens on the floor is because the > older people have the experience to go and find a quiet place to do it, or > they have their own car to drive home, or the money to get a cab. If you're > looking for blindness look beyond your own myopic stereotypes to see that > the drug culture that is being perpetuated is being done so by the 21+ crowd > who can a) afford to do the drugs; b) have the chemistry degree to create > the drugs and c) have the resources to sell them. With that being said... you've only proved that an older crowd is that much more responsible. Hence, contradicting your argument that under age kids should be allowed to go to all night events. Either your 16 or 21 - you take this or you take that - the fact of the matter is the majority of underage kids are not responsible enough to attend. They haven't proved it, and unless something changes they will never get to prove it. The whole dance culture can die from this. _____________________ S i p h o n Urban Assault [99] info: 408.882.5064 http://www.urbanassault.org From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 19:33:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1458 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 19:33:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 1436 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 19:33:20 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 19:33:20 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-46.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.46]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA21345 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 12:33:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990525180840.006d93d4@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:08:40 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: MR: The next cheezy song pick Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk How funny for some reason my inbox just deleted the last 100 or so emails from this list..I wonder why..O wait! I know why now. :) Dammit i have the next must be heard cheezy I guess trance song at a party, and guess who it's by; The VENGA Boys of course! I don't know what the title of the song is but if you like the last cheese by them listen tto the next one. It's so damn catchy. Goes something like this; Boom boom boom boom, I want you in my room lets spend the night together, together in my room Boom boom boom boom again some other thing The real catchy part is the boom boom boom part and of course the catchy little I guess synth hooks they have during the break. Laying big slippery cheesy bricks for you Nuku From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 19:34:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2459 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 19:34:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 2268 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 19:34:11 -0000 Received: from dilbert.ucdavis.edu (root@169.237.105.33) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 19:34:11 -0000 Received: from localhost (ez060343@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dilbert.ucdavis.edu (8.9.3/UCD3.13.10) with ESMTP id MAA23736; Tue, 25 May 1999 12:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:34:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Kenneth Zanotto X-Sender: ez060343@dilbert.ucdavis.edu To: ProtoTypical Chris cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: trance sux, house rox In-Reply-To: <374ae3f1.190d.0@jmail.co.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ain't nothin gonna move me like breaks! Ken On Tue, 25 May 1999, ProtoTypical Chris wrote: > >In a message dated 5/25/1999 10:41:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > >prototype@raveaddict.com writes: > > > ><< Fuckin' hard trance is the super-shit. > > >> > >RIGHTO MATE! you tell 'em!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Damn straight. > > Also, for all you house/breaks people, just check out the shit coming out of > Tinrib Recordings. THAT shit will move you like nothing else. > The Captain is a god. > > -=ProtoTypical Chris=- > >><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><><><><><><><><><><> > Like my COOL email address? Get one like it FREE at http://www.MUSICOSM.com ! > Visit today! > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 19:34:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3415 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 19:34:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 3393 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 19:34:51 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 19:34:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525192809.25381.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.86.220.227] by attach1; Tue, 25 May 1999 12:28:09 PDT Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:28:09 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: RE: You're killing the rave scene To: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ---Vegas Rick wrote: > It was people like me in 1988 (I was > 16 then) who went to the parties and passed out flyers and bought tapes from > artists that made their labels look like soap boxes. It was other teenagers > like me who told their friends about it, practiced PLUR regularly and helped > to create the culture. Sorry, but that just isn't true (at least not here). When the scene started here, it was driven by young, fresh inovative people. It was brought here by the dj's and promoters who were mostly in their early 20's. The party-goers themselves started out about that age and have gotten younger and younger over time. In the early days there were VERY few ravers under 18. Mostly because the younger crowd a) didn't know about it, and b) didn't see it as 'cool'. -Science From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 19:37:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5626 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 19:37:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 5478 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 19:37:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO osiris.vegasquick.com) (root@209.101.75.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 19:37:03 -0000 Received: from seker (seker.socalraves.com [209.101.75.16] (may be forged)) by osiris.vegasquick.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA22586; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:37:21 -0700 From: "Vegas Rick" To: Cc: "'Sfraves@hyperreal. org'" Subject: RE: You're killing the rave scene Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:28:34 -0700 Message-ID: <000b01bea6e4$c7d2fc40$104b65d1@t2000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <374AF9A8.FA166500@urbanassault.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > Vegas Rick wrote: > > > > > The only reason why you tend to see more teens on the floor is > because the > > older people have the experience to go and find a quiet place > to do it, or > > they have their own car to drive home, or the money to get a > cab. If you're > > looking for blindness look beyond your own myopic stereotypes > to see that > > the drug culture that is being perpetuated is being done so by > the 21+ crowd > > who can a) afford to do the drugs; b) have the chemistry degree > to create > > the drugs and c) have the resources to sell them. > > Then Siphon retorted: > With that being said... you've only proved that an older crowd is that > much more responsible. Hence, contradicting your argument that under > age kids should be allowed to go to all night events. Either your 16 or > 21 - you take this or you take that - the fact of the matter is the > majority of underage kids are not responsible enough to attend. They > haven't proved it, and unless something changes they will never get to > prove it. The whole dance culture can die from this. Well, if your defintion of "responsiblity" is "being able to make and sell drugs and being able to hide when completely fucked up" then I stand corrected. And don't take what I say out of context with the rest of my post. I showed in the other parts of my post how more likely you are to find a dead adult at a party than a dead teenager. There are exceptions to that rule, but they are just that, exceptions. You'll find more adults leaving a party in a stretcher after OD'ing than you will teenagers. That's responsiblity? --Vegas Rick I am not a vegetarian because I love animals; I am a vegetarian because I hate plants. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 19:46:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12619 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 19:46:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 12611 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 19:46:08 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 19:46:08 -0000 Received: from Laalkuchaa@aol.com (259) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vKRa002571 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:44:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Laalkuchaa@aol.com Message-ID: <1e564414.247c57b0@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:44:48 EDT Subject: Re: NRR Goa Gill Ou est que tooooooooo?????? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Anyone know where i can get tapes or CDs online of Goa Gill and the like????? Please Help . . . . must . . . have Goa . . . . . . . Gilllllllllllll Laal Kuchaaa From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 19:59:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21217 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 19:59:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 21208 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 19:59:39 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 19:59:39 -0000 Received: from TonicBond@aol.com (8028) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id oJDUa06834; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:56:11 -0400 (EDT) From: TonicBond@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:56:11 EDT Subject: Re: MR: The next cheezy song pick To: nuku@sfsu.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I hope you all get a kick out of this random knowledge of random music I think its: boom boom boom lets go back to my room where we can do it all night, make it all right boom boom boom lets go back to my room where we can do it all night, make it all right the venga boys are jumpin the vanga girls are pumpin were getn hi getn live so we can all get on this an be all right lvumch AME From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 20:04:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24238 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 20:04:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 24060 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 20:03:55 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 20:03:55 -0000 Received: from user (access-50-244.ixpres.com [209.75.50.244]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA11244; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990525125908.006c5d54@mail.ixpres.com> X-Sender: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:59:08 -0700 To: "Happy Kids" , From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: Re: variety makes the spice flow :-) In-Reply-To: <004f01bea6db$d26c15a0$38c149a8@nextel.com> References: <6db9cdb3.247ba707@aol.com> <3.0.3.32.19990525110639.006df7f8@mail.ixpres.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hello, i'm sorry you think this topic is dumb, but where do you get off saying what's important and what's not and dictating that everyone should ignore it? I happen to be curious about it...i never said that it's a matter of life & death....lighten up or just delete the posts. I suppose a little politeness would be too hard to handle, huh? madhvi At 11:24 AM 5/25/99 -0700, Happy Kids wrote: >this topic is SO dumb and your replies just worsen the waste of bandwidth. >just ignore the idiocy. > >-i >----- Original Message ----- >From: Madhvi Dalal >To: Silvia Schumacher ; >Cc: >Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 11:06 AM >Subject: variety makes the spice flow :-) > > >> >> Silvia, I agree 100%. I sent an earlier post stating my feelings on >trance >> and someone else said it well when they said our scene THRIVES on >> diversity. Trance is the SHIT and so is house. i'm glad to see house >> isn't as hated as i thought...b/c i love it. And i also dont' think u >> gotta be a "candy kid" to like trance...you can be anything you are and >> like anything you want. Saying only candy kids like trance is a narrow >way >> to think. >> >> muah >> >> madhvi >> >> >> At 10:22 AM 5/25/99 -0700, Silvia Schumacher wrote: >> > >> > >> >On Tue, 25 May 1999 H4RDHOUSE@aol.com wrote: >> > >> >> trance is for candy kids with one to many glowsticks, house is true sf >> style! >> >> >> > >> >What the hell??? >> >Please don't speak in such a way!!! I know many tranceheads out there who >> >are definetely no candyravers and show a true dedication to the music >> >just like the original sf housers do to their music... And for me, trance >> >is my true love but hey maybe that's because I am from Frankfurt, one of >> >the trance cities of the world... Please show some respect to the >> >different styles of electronica... >> > >> >Love, Silvia >> > >> > >> > >> > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 20:06:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27431 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 20:06:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 27291 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 20:06:42 -0000 Received: from f257.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.148) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 20:06:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 52194 invoked by uid 0); 25 May 1999 20:03:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525200329.52193.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:03:29 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Got Techno???? Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:03:29 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey what about us the Minority that Like Tekno?? Yea babeee Detroit,Stockholm,Berlin,UK Tekno.. Tekno sluts unit!!! Just thought I would put in my $0.02 to these stupid ass posts!! Smooches, Macadio (Tekno-TekHouse-tranceyhouse-slut) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 20:10:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 679 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 20:10:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 668 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 20:09:58 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 20:09:58 -0000 Received: from NEXXUS19@aol.com (3700) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id tMPBa29329; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:08:02 -0400 (EDT) From: NEXXUS19@aol.com Message-ID: <887ac12e.247c5d20@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:08:00 EDT Subject: Re: variety makes the spice flow :-) To: mdalal@ixpres.com, happykids@happykidsproductions.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk maybe they should of been more polite, yet i , like them ,I find it a tad on the unnerving side to be getting 150 emails a day about whether trance sucks and house rocks-and what part candy kids and their glowstick habits have to do with it =) -l From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 20:17:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5370 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 20:17:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 5361 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 20:17:38 -0000 Received: from nettapp.nettwerk.com (HELO budd.nettwerk.com) (209.17.154.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 20:17:38 -0000 Received: from [216.101.68.178] (adsl-216-101-68-178.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [216.101.68.178]) by budd.nettwerk.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA16316 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:13:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: william@mailhost.nettwerk.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:21:01 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: william godoy Subject: Quiz of the day. Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk As much as i think that Underworld,Leftfield,FSOL, and Orbital are godhead. I have a hard time defining what exact genre they fall in. Can anyone try and put these guys into a genre. Oh, Chemical Brothers and Freestylers are what? Also, can anyone give an example of breaks and jungle, or is the answer in this text already? Peace William From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 20:22:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7919 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 20:22:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 7908 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 20:22:35 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 20:22:35 -0000 Received: from user (access-50-244.ixpres.com [209.75.50.244]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA14500; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:23:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990525131743.006eb53c@mail.ixpres.com> X-Sender: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:17:43 -0700 To: NEXXUS19@aol.com From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: CHILL OUT Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <887ac12e.247c5d20@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yeah but at the same time i get TONS of posts on topics I think are way retarded...yet i don't complain and get pissy...i just read them and/or delete them. Don't you think that being on a mailing list there just might be a chance that not every thread will suit you? Like maybe 500 posts on STARBORES and people sending out personal pages and dissing on dj's and stores....And, i seem to remember something somewhere along the line that sfraves just might be about music!? Eeep, OMG, did i say that? My bad...i shoulda just stuck to DRAMA. hugs madhvi At 04:08 PM 5/25/99 EDT, you wrote: >maybe they should of been more polite, yet i , like them ,I find it a tad on >the unnerving side to be getting 150 emails a day about whether trance sucks >and house rocks-and what part candy kids and their glowstick habits have to >do with it =) > >-l > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 20:34:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16340 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 20:34:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 16305 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 20:34:40 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 20:34:40 -0000 Received: from WizardCCCA@aol.com (402) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vBNHa02628 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:33:45 -0400 (EDT) From: WizardCCCA@aol.com Message-ID: <8611111.247c6329@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:33:45 EDT Subject: Re: DUNE / Paul Van Dyk / 1015 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk For only those 21+.... DAMN! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 20:41:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22226 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 20:41:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 22204 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 20:41:38 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 20:41:38 -0000 Received: from DjShUbErT@aol.com (575) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vTQKa15511 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:40:35 -0400 (EDT) From: DjShUbErT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:39:03 EDT Subject: BSP : Fri Night To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk heres the deal we landed a room at Poison Ivy Fri night from 9pm-3am in San Jose at the Elk Lodge info: 408 301 3914 Dub'L Vision Dj's Shubert Dizolve Sly Oddeci Erik From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 20:50:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27674 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 20:50:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 27657 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 20:50:39 -0000 Received: from law2-f73.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 20:50:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 73588 invoked by uid 0); 25 May 1999 19:50:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525195013.73587.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.173.42.100 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 25 May 1999 12:50:13 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.173.42.100] From: "Kriss *" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: where do we go from here? Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:50:13 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk if any of you haven't figured it out already, you need to listen to leslie. she's smart, experienced, and has a lot of wise things to teach us. i agree completely with her comments about parties being 18+. i also agree with terry about education being essential. you have so many more options in life if you have a college education. if you didn't read their posts, go back and read them! sorry if this seems like rambling, but i have much to say & i'm trying to be brief... i will be 30 in less than 2 weeks. i used to hate getting older, but reflecting on my life and my experiences, i'm glad that i'm getting older. i've learned a lot. i didn't find the rave scene until i was 28. i was upset that i hadn't found this wonderful scene sooner in my life, until i realized that i found it at such a late age for a reason: i wasn't ready for it before then. i had always thought i was very responsible and mature, but looking back on the life i used to lead i see that i was quite the opposite. i hate to think about what my life could have turned out to be if i had such easy access to drugs and all-night parties when i was younger. i might be homeless, in jail...or dead. going to 18+ or 21+ clubs is not a solution for those of us who want to dance to "rave music" and get away from the young kids. these clubs all serve alcohol, and most drunks are assholes - i should know i used to be one. i've been to 1015 folsom, and it's only fun around 4am when all the drinkers have gone home. before 4, they're groping and obnoxious and trying to pick up girls nonstop, and i just can't deal with that crap anymore. those of you who know me know that i teach high school. everyone who finds that out asks me if i see students at parties, and yes i do. but i wish i didn't. not just b/c i like a separation between my work and my private lives, but b/c many of these kids are using and abusing drugs, are ruining their grades, and some are dropping out of school. these are good kids, who seem mature, but their behavior points otherwise. i've tried talking with them, trying to teach them that parties should be about music, dancing and people, not about drugs, but they just don't listen. so i don't think that trying to educate these younger kids is going to work for a lot of them. drugs are just too easily available, and too easy to abuse. yes, a few we talk with will listen, but so many more will not. i think leslie is right when she says we have to protect the scene so it's still here when the younger kids grow up. i'm all for 18+ parties. kids just have to have patience - their time will come. and people of all ages can enjoy the free daytime parties that seem to be abundant these days, so the kids aren't totally left out either. i don't think that all parties need to be 18+, but i'd sure like to see a lot of them that are. with love, kriss =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 20:53:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29313 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 20:53:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 29284 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 20:53:14 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 20:53:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525205147.21645.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.170.33.193] by web4; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:51:47 PDT Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:51:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Joaqman Subject: Re: Got Techno???? and house .vs trance To: "Macadio G." , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk stockholm wheeeeee-ha!!!!!! tek-know. tec-no. teq-noe. teck-oh,.....you get the idea. house sux. trance swallows. jungle eats it. big beat blows. down tempo is a drag. techno is a drag queen. hip-hop bites. it's all about "losing your truck/ girl/ job" coountry music!!!!!! have you ever heard dj Garth Brooks play a set?????? ;) joaqman ---"Macadio G." wrote: > > Hey what about us the Minority that Like Tekno?? > > Yea babeee Detroit,Stockholm,Berlin,UK Tekno.. > > Tekno sluts unit!!! Just thought I would put in my $0.02 to these stupid ass > posts!! > > Smooches, > Macadio (Tekno-TekHouse-tranceyhouse-slut) > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 20:56:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 963 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 20:56:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 950 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 20:56:24 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 20:56:24 -0000 Received: from DjShUbErT@aol.com (575) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vEMOa29329 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:55:25 -0400 (EDT) From: DjShUbErT@aol.com Message-ID: <6ea14e32.247c683c@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:55:24 EDT Subject: Re: BSP Fri Night Please Read To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk By the way we are in no way affiliated with this crew nor their parties and production what we are doing in conjuction with their event is strictly for the benefit of our local scene ..just thought i would make that clear Peace, Shubert From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 20:56:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1195 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 20:56:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 1071 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 20:56:28 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 20:56:28 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (8067) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3HLMa02587 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:55:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:55:12 EDT Subject: Re: here is something.... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I gots me 40%. . . cool. . . Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 20:57:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2472 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 20:57:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 2406 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 20:57:29 -0000 Received: from mole.slip.net (207.171.193.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 20:57:29 -0000 Received: from [207.171.214.12] (helo=exchange1.vertical.com) by mole.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 10mOGN-0003CF-00 for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:57:27 -0700 Received: by Exchange1.vertical.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:53:41 -0700 Message-ID: From: Monique Whittaker To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: Got Techno???? and house .vs trance Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:53:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think he's got the right idea!! (sing it baby!!) I've got friends in low places... -----Original Message----- From: Joaqman [mailto:jakeloco@rocketmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 1:52 PM To: Macadio G.; sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Got Techno???? and house .vs trance stockholm wheeeeee-ha!!!!!! tek-know. tec-no. teq-noe. teck-oh,.....you get the idea. house sux. trance swallows. jungle eats it. big beat blows. down tempo is a drag. techno is a drag queen. hip-hop bites. it's all about "losing your truck/ girl/ job" coountry music!!!!!! have you ever heard dj Garth Brooks play a set?????? ;) joaqman ---"Macadio G." wrote: > > Hey what about us the Minority that Like Tekno?? > > Yea babeee Detroit,Stockholm,Berlin,UK Tekno.. > > Tekno sluts unit!!! Just thought I would put in my $0.02 to these stupid ass > posts!! > > Smooches, > Macadio (Tekno-TekHouse-tranceyhouse-slut) > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 20:58:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2943 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 20:57:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 2806 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 20:57:55 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 20:57:55 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (8067) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3MHLa02575 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:56:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:56:24 EDT Subject: Re: here is something.... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I gots me a 40% Strayer than an alley cat, you've been around, you've seen the sights and even written home to tell about it. You're adventurous, always ready to try new things . . . good enough. . . Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 21:04:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6633 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 21:04:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 6616 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 21:04:09 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 21:04:09 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-180.dsp.com [204.118.76.180]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA17108; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:04:06 -0700 Message-Id: <4.1.19990525140012.009c9ad0@wgdsearch.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 14:01:55 -0700 To: Aryck46@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: NRR: 976-stupid surveys In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Please don't post your purity test results here. Esp. multiple times. Witholding catty aside, Jessica At 04:56 PM 5/25/99 -0400, Aryck46@aol.com wrote: >I gots me a 40% > >Strayer than an alley cat, you've been around, you've seen the sights and >even written home to tell about it. You're adventurous, always ready to try >new things . . . > >good enough. . . > > >Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 21:13:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12425 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 21:13:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 12233 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 21:13:44 -0000 Received: from fletch.fix.net (telkionish@206.190.71.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 21:13:44 -0000 Received: from localhost (telkionish@localhost) by fletch.fix.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA28903; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:13:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 14:13:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Adair To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sacraves@hyperreal.org Subject: DJ ID Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I know this party was a LONG time ago, but I have been thinking about this specific DJ quite a bit lately because he spun one of the most impressive set I have ever seen... September 96, BIG BIG BIG Party at 85th and baldwin.. Had huge names... 808 state, moby, system 7, empirion to just name a few of the live acts.. I think it was called Big Top or something like that... If anybody knows who spun for the 1/2 hour or so in the main room right before Moby took the stage, TELL ME WHO IT WAS!!! This guy tore it up on 3 decks like I had never seen before... I talked to him briefly after his set.. So briefly I didnt have time to catch his name.. If I remember correctly, he looked like he was japaneese, but he didnt have a hint of an accent.. It was a long time ago, but anybody remember??? thx Gregere From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 21:18:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15473 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 21:18:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 15463 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 21:18:46 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 21:18:46 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (8067) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3UQSa01450 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:17:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:16:48 EDT Subject: OPEN says me . . . my nonthreaded opinion. . . To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It's funny to see soooo many people being upset over such little things. A lot of "ravers" point fingers and dislike the younger generation when in actuality they're being total hypocrates. All of us, when we were young, did things, read things, thought things, and said things that had impacts on everyday life. We changed the rave scene, club scene, bar scene, even the hanging out in front of 7-11 at 2am scene. Everything is diffirentiating constantly. That's evolution. People go through the bad to learn from their mistakes, eventually everything evens out into a positive better for everyone kind of world. That's how it's designed. Some youngn's will cause trouble, some will get hurt, some could possibly die. But these people will bring this knowledge they have gained into their everyday world. It'll rub off on friends, relatives, people they come in contact with, whatever. That will be the road to where we want to be. But who ever said life was easy ? You have to fall 10x before you can stand on your own 2 feet. Sometimes just when the world seems like it's in a good spot, it drops down again. . . but when it comes back up, it will grow stronger and faster than it did previously. I personally love everyone in the scene. I think a 16+ limit would be more appropriate. There are just too many little 12 year olds n all destroying their little undeveloped minds before they ripen. . . it's a waste. Could you see an older generation of e-tards ? People who will be our police, our firemen, our scientists. . . some will work out, but the majority won't live up to their once been potential. These are weird little threads. Who is anyone to tell anyone that they can't be who they want to be. Restrictions and laws are important. But things like this have to be carefully considered. 16+ seems good, if most parents will let their kid drive a car, they'll probably be down with letting you go out to an all out ghetto drugfest with people getting stuck with needles, and people raping people n all. Shit. . . I would. but then again, my child will be a trained ninja, so I really don't see any problems in that arena. . . just a thought. . . 1 1/2 actually. . . Take Care of yerselves. . . "A" Loc we out. . . From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 21:29:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24093 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 21:29:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 24085 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 21:29:15 -0000 Received: from firstclass.monterey.edu (HELO mail.monterey.edu) (198.189.5.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 21:29:15 -0000 Message-id: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 14:27:19 -0700 Subject: 1015 Memorial Day Weekend? To: talk@warmth.org Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu (Robert Delarosa) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Can anyone pass along some info about Memorial Day weekend @ 1015 Folsom? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 21:35:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27428 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 21:35:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 27405 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 21:35:45 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 21:35:45 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com (585) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vMKQa01068; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:32:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:33:12 EDT Subject: Re:your post about adults To: Ninabruja4@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org CC: 18+?!?!@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/24/99 9:25:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Ninabruja4@aol.com writes: << i guess adults will always be oppressive and selfish. >> I don't think they are trying to do that! THEY JUST CARE about the kids! Maybe what they should be focusing on is the drugs in our scene and everywhere else! I have seen more adults in the medical rooms in the past month then the younger kids. Some just don't want to admit what is really going on. Because if you really get to the root of the problem its all about one thing that is ruining it for us all!!! I know you all know exactly what Im talking about! Maybe kids shouldn't be exposed to concerts, raves, music, gigs, shows, outdoor parties, festivals or any other forms of music entertainment. They should just stay home do their homework, play video games, listen to music on their boom box and do their drugs at home. We all know that it will never happen. Because the shit is everywhere! Where there is a will there is a way! Here, there and everywhere. The responsibilities would be much less for many others as well as promoters if kids are more aware or what some people are doing and not doing. 18+ parties maybe a good slap on the wrist to the youngsters to make them see what they are doing is wrong. Not all of them fall into this category I might add. I still feel that most of the kids are not the problem and to be aware that its about something much bigger then one person is ready to tackle! The truth shall set us all free... Maybe we can make a safer haven for kids as well as the adults by nipping the problem in the butt. Still kids and adults need to be aware that its not cool to come in and do whatever the hell they want at parties, concerts clubs etc. except dance their asses off .. =) Im going to be taking a break from this list and focusing my energy on more positive things about the scene. I will see you all later.. Be safe and responsible! =) HUGS** Jeannie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 21:39:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29578 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 21:39:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 29565 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 21:39:17 -0000 Received: from mole.slip.net (207.171.193.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 21:39:17 -0000 Received: from [207.171.214.12] (helo=exchange1.vertical.com) by mole.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 10mOun-0003Kb-00; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:39:13 -0700 Received: by Exchange1.vertical.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:35:27 -0700 Message-ID: From: Monique Whittaker To: "'Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu'" Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: 1015 Memorial Day Weekend? Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 14:34:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Donald Glaude is spinning at Spundae I heard. -----Original Message----- From: Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu [mailto:Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu] Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 2:27 PM To: talk@warmth.org Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: 1015 Memorial Day Weekend? Can anyone pass along some info about Memorial Day weekend @ 1015 Folsom? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 21:42:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3449 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 21:42:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 3374 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 21:42:42 -0000 Received: from web803.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.63) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 21:42:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525214608.15305.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.180.76.15] by web803.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:46:08 PDT Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 14:46:08 -0700 (PDT) From: loic comolli Subject: Re: 1015 Memorial Day Weekend? To: Robert Delarosa , talk@warmth.org Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk one word: SPUNDAE!! from 9pm-9am, with Jerry Bonham, Gianni, Terry Mullan, Donald Glaude, and many more. if you like 1015 then that's something you don't want to miss. loic --- Robert Delarosa wrote: > Can anyone pass along some info about Memorial Day > weekend @ 1015 Folsom? > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 21:43:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4257 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 21:43:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 4248 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 21:43:45 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 21:43:45 -0000 Received: from DjShUbErT@aol.com (575) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id uBCBa15511; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:40:12 -0400 (EDT) From: DjShUbErT@aol.com Message-ID: <92801ab6.247c72bf@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:40:15 EDT Subject: Re: 1015 Memorial Day Weekend? To: MoniqueW@vertical.com, Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Frankie Bones too From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 21:45:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5199 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 21:45:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 5163 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 21:45:18 -0000 Received: from sco.sco.com (132.147.128.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 21:45:18 -0000 Received: from novasco.sco.COM(132.147.178.252) via SMTP by sco.sco.COM, id smtpdAAAa006PW; Tue May 25 14:43:56 1999 Received: from lesleymo.sco.com by novasco.sco.com id aa22477; 25 May 99 14:42 PDT Message-ID: <374B1945.22D1A962@sco.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 14:42:29 -0700 From: Lesley Mortell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: william godoy CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Quiz of the day. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Used to be Techno, but I think they are undefinable as far as genre goes - in most cases they've been around for so long and have evolved along the way pulling in influences from everywhere. The Freestyles were being lumped in with Big Beat (Wall of Sound etc.) last year. Leftfield are those bastards that wouldn't let my mate Adam out to play for 18 months while they did their album. Lesley william godoy wrote: > > As much as i think that Underworld,Leftfield,FSOL, and Orbital are > godhead. I have a hard time defining what exact genre they fall in. Can > anyone try and put these guys into a genre. Oh, Chemical Brothers and > Freestylers are what? Also, can anyone give an example of breaks and > jungle, or is the answer in this text already? > > Peace > William - From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 22:00:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15373 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 22:00:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 15347 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 22:00:54 -0000 Received: from mail.lunatic.org (207.171.204.205) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 22:00:54 -0000 Received: from impact.lunatic.org (localhost.lunatic.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lunatic.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA12832 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905252212.PAA12832@mail.lunatic.org> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: DUNE?? THIS WEEKEND ? In-Reply-To: <5f1ef648.247b5c5e@aol.com>) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:12:23 -0700 From: Jan Setje-Eilers Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk FReShKiD7@aol.com wrote: >is dune this weekend ?? Dune is June 19th. This weekend would be May 29/30. >because i herd there is A MoonTribe Desert Party in SO CAL this weekend ???? On Sun May 30 01:00:00 1999 the Moon is Full - so could be. -jan From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 22:01:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16867 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 22:01:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 16677 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 22:01:32 -0000 Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (209.185.123.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 22:01:32 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by angelfire.com; Tue May 25 15:00:28 1999 To: nuku@sfsu.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org, TonicBond@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:00:28 -0700 From: "Electric Joy Boy" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: on Reply-To: X-Expiredinmiddle: true X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: MR: The next cheezy song pick X-Sender-Ip: 206.66.135.218 Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Boom Boom Boom Boom transcribed by a bored person @ work :) oh oh oh ohhh Venga boys are back in town --inconsequential filler lyrics-- Boom Boom Boom Boom I want you in my room Let's spend the night together >From now until forever Boom Boom Boom Boom I wanna go Boom Boom Let's spend the night together Together in My room Please don't ask me how I know these lyrics... Watch out man, this is going to be 'Barbie' '99! Ben Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 22:08:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20888 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 22:08:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 20879 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 22:08:26 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 22:08:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525220143.21150.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.170.3.224] by attach1; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:01:43 PDT Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:01:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Joaqman Subject: Re: DUNE?? THIS WEEKEND ? & lil bsp To: Jan Setje-Eilers , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ARRRRGHHHHHHH! dune is june 19th??????!!!!!! shootz, i so wanted to go again. you know, i am a veteran of two out of four dunes so far. i guess i can't complain cuz i'm playing @ splendor blender that nite. ooops sorry to plug. everyone that can should go to dune. it is truly magical! everybody else go to home base ;) joaqman, press play ---Jan Setje-Eilers wrote: > > > FReShKiD7@aol.com wrote: > >is dune this weekend ?? > > Dune is June 19th. This weekend would be May 29/30. > > >because i herd there is A MoonTribe Desert Party in SO CAL this weekend ???? > > On Sun May 30 01:00:00 1999 the Moon is Full - so could be. > > -jan > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 22:09:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21737 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 22:09:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 21729 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 22:09:16 -0000 Received: from f259.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.150) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 22:09:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 14675 invoked by uid 0); 25 May 1999 22:08:49 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525220849.14674.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.227.43.11 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:08:48 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.227.43.11] From: "Fruit Cup" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 1015 Memorial Day Weekend? Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:08:48 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk here's the full spundae lineup from spundae.net: frankie bones terry mullan john acquaviva kimball collins donald glaude christopher lawrence jerry bonham michael anthony david harness pete avila ellen ferrato galen mark tabberner gianni taj 415.974.9389 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 22:21:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 197 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 22:21:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 189 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 22:21:48 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 22:21:48 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-180.dsp.com [204.118.76.180]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA18862 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:21:46 -0700 Message-Id: <4.1.19990525151912.009b7890@wgdsearch.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:19:33 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: NRR: snickerguffawteehee Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > >This is the funniest thing I've seen in weeks: > >http://www.hoopla.com/homepaged/ > >I only got to goth girl and was giggling too hard to continue. Enjoy! > >Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 22:22:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1040 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 22:22:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 1015 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 22:22:44 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 22:22:44 -0000 Received: from user (AM4-11-55-151.ixpres.com [209.75.55.151]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA35511; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:23:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990525151256.006e7154@mail.ixpres.com> X-Sender: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:12:56 -0700 To: Jan Setje-Eilers , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: Re: DUNE?? THIS WEEKEND ? In-Reply-To: <199905252212.PAA12832@mail.lunatic.org> References: <5f1ef648.247b5c5e@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just to clarify, you're thinking of a party called Desert Dream which was last weekend in So Cal madhvi At 03:12 PM 5/25/99 -0700, Jan Setje-Eilers wrote: > >FReShKiD7@aol.com wrote: >>is dune this weekend ?? > > Dune is June 19th. This weekend would be May 29/30. > >>because i herd there is A MoonTribe Desert Party in SO CAL this weekend ???? > > On Sun May 30 01:00:00 1999 the Moon is Full - so could be. > >-jan > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 22:25:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3413 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 22:25:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 3333 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 22:25:39 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 22:25:39 -0000 Received: from user (AM4-11-55-151.ixpres.com [209.75.55.151]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA36000; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990525152047.006ec570@mail.ixpres.com> X-Sender: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:20:47 -0700 To: "Fruit Cup" , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: 1015 line-up In-Reply-To: <19990525220849.14674.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk looks incredibly yummy...wish i could go! Just saw Kimball last week...you guys are gonna go NUTZ!!! muah madhvi At 03:08 PM 5/25/99 PDT, Fruit Cup wrote: >here's the full spundae lineup from spundae.net: > >frankie bones >terry mullan >john acquaviva >kimball collins >donald glaude >christopher lawrence >jerry bonham >michael anthony >david harness >pete avila >ellen ferrato >galen >mark tabberner >gianni >taj > >415.974.9389 > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 22:30:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5317 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 22:30:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 5309 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 22:30:27 -0000 Received: from ewey-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO ewey.excite.com) (198.3.99.191) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 22:30:27 -0000 Received: from ants.excite.com ([199.172.152.146]) by ewey.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990525223040.EBSN15530.ewey@ants.excite.com> for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:30:40 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: whoa there mr las vegas Message-Id: <927671400.13081.564@excite.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:30:00 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk without snipping actual quotes (which is difficult at best when one subscribes to the digest)... whoever you are, mr. las vegas, i think there may be some misunderstanding. in the scene in the bay area that i am aware of (and i go to parties large and small, massives to undergounds, candy raves to crazy clubs).... the music is created by grownups. now, maybe you passed out some tapes when you were 16, but if you can find a true musical contributor who is 16 around here, please introduce me. most djs and music producers i know are well over 18, and producers are often older because there is investment in equipment required. not to mention the years of practice and devotion that it takes. and that goes for the producers of music worldwide, i'd venture. kids do not generally create music... in reality, kids do not generally *create* much new... they are in the stage of their life where they study other people's creations, and hopefully learn to modify and adapt those things... this is why we see derivative, trend-oriented behaviors in youth culture... because kids may grab onto new styles others create (and occasionally there are truly trendsetting kids)... but generally kids follow trends..... as an example... early candy style dressing was created by... someone creative (as if we can actually track that back, hey, maybe it was paul-e-wog!~) was inspired to a new fashion direction, and then it gradually spread until it hit a critical mass, and now every kid is wearing fifty plastic neckaces and stickers on their face and twelve ponytails and furry pants... and, as fun and entertaining as that is.... and recoginzing that there is still room for individual *interpretation* of style... it is not a creative force when you're the 100th or 10000th kid to follow the trend. cool, probably. fun, yes. but to take credit for the creative impetus in the culture? nope. and wherever you got the impression that adults party differently because we manufacture drugs and can afford to take cabs home. stop, you're killing me. perhaps you actually live in las vegas where life imitates... um, something else. adults party differently because we are adults. we are more experienced. we are more independnet. we are less succeptible (sp?) to peer pressure. and we are far more likely to be responsible for ourselves... and with a respect for what it takes to keep something like our scene alive. yes, adults have more money. whoo, big ephiphany, that. that's because we're responsible adults who work. (of course i see some kiddies with cash too, but that's often from way-too-large allowances, if you ask me). but the difference between all-adult parties and parties with kiddies is not just in how many people show up... it's also in what *kinds* of people show up. see, when a party is all adults, especially underground parties that attract adult crowds (and to be real, that's probably more than most people realize)... the difference is that partiers are generally more reliable and responsible in their lives in general and they know why they're there.... and it's most often for the music. and ... once again (in case i haven't emphasized this enough) ... when an adult is at a party and decides to alter their state, a) generally they make a responsible decision that doesn't require other people to take them to the hospital and b) they have the legal right to make that decision for themselves. do they get sloppy sometimes? yes. does the party promoter/host have legal liability for it? probably not. (though i have been at a party once where a wife came looking for her husband with an unhappy look on her face! ;^) the bay area underground is filled with crews and groups of friends who have partied together for years.... and many of these have frankly outgrown the jaw-grinding e-fests that are prevalent among young ravers.... if there is a death at a party because an adult made a choice and wandered into the wildnerness or whatever... that is tragic and it reflects on the adult, and makes us try to do what we can to prevent it from happening again. but if it happens to someone's little baby who wasn't supposed to be there int he first place... then we have a new problem. tragedies happen in our world all the time... and sometimes that is at parties.... we should work to reduce the risks .... and that's what we're doing. the posts we're seeing from people who are facing the reality of our situation and the potential need to protect ourselves by making events 18-up are from people who are IN THE SCENE... some are djs, some are promoters, some have simply been dedicated ravers for years (like me) who know how much we stand to lose unless we do something. these are posts from people who have been part of the scene for years, and will do what needs to be done to protect our future ability to dance all night. (and by the way and off track... as a longtime househead (the deeper the better), and a lover of breakbeats, with a passion for melodic trance and a kickass addiction to drum & bass... will you guys stop arguing about what's better and stop trying to categorize people by what they like!... except for that minimal techno, of course, that's for geeks ;^) leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 22:33:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7108 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 22:32:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 7099 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 22:32:55 -0000 Received: from colo01-031.xoom.com (HELO www1.xoommail.com) (206.132.179.31) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 22:32:55 -0000 Received: (from service@localhost) by www1.xoommail.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15849; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:32:54 -0700 Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:32:54 -0700 Message-Id: <199905252232.PAA15849@www1.xoommail.com> X-Loop: xoommail.com From: Matt -RED Organization: FCK Subject: Re: trance sux, house rox (BLAH BLAH) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Eh, No. I got into the rave scene through house music, but after a few months I grew pretty bored of house. Trance is much much more appealing than house can ever be. Hard, slow beats = boring. Fast, multi-hap, trance = fun. House parties are filled with way too many deadbeats. Trance/house raves are better but still rake in too many sloths. I don't know where you are from but I don't believe house is "true" SF style. More like boring, slow, and anti-plur. One too many glowsticks? Eh, well, I guess we can go that route. In doing so, where's your argument with glowsticks? What's wrong with them? Eh? Where's your argument? Is that suppose to be some sort of disgrace? The only thing you've been able to prove is that you have a lack of education of areas. ~ << H4RDHOUSE wrote: trance is for candy kids with one to many glowsticks, house is true sf style! >> Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occassion at http://greetings.xoom.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 22:37:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9698 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 22:37:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 9683 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 22:37:20 -0000 Received: from law-f115.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.178) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 22:37:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 87055 invoked by uid 0); 25 May 1999 22:38:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525223808.87054.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.220.101 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:38:08 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.220.101] From: "K Gray" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 1015 Memorial Day Weekend? Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:38:08 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >here's the full spundae lineup from spundae.net: > >frankie bones >terry mullan >john acquaviva >kimball collins >donald glaude >christopher lawrence >jerry bonham >michael anthony >david harness >pete avila >ellen ferrato >galen >mark tabberner >gianni >taj > >415.974.9389 Good Lord. Don't think I can handle that much excitement in one place on one night. Think I'll just have Donald Glaude over to the house to spin Monday afternoon. Go on, bite. fishing . . . k From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 22:46:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13739 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 22:46:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 13611 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 22:46:06 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 22:46:06 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525224438.8976.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.247] by web4; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:44:38 PDT Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:44:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Subject: RE: the age thing To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Harmony Productions in my opinion is the strongest production company out there. And this September Harmony will celebrate its 6 year anniversary, right around Greg Sandlers 23rd b-day. Let me trace that back then...if Greg is turning 23 and Harmony is 6 yrs old. THen does that mean Greg was 16-17 when he 1st started throwing parties. If that true, when did he start going to parties. It took these "kids", Harmony 6 yrs to become the top crew in our underground. Now IMO doesnt every deserve a shot at the scene! But hey your right thats just one example, but hey who knows u'd be surprised where you'll find more if you look for them. thats just my opinion... and wasnt Frankie Bones 17 when he threw the 1st parties in NYC. =)jer === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 22:50:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16597 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 22:50:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 16577 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 22:50:15 -0000 Received: from baal.visi.com (HELO mail.visi.com) (209.98.98.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 22:50:15 -0000 Received: from isis.visi.com (diogenes@isis.visi.com [209.98.98.8]) by mail.visi.com (8.8.8/8.7.5) with ESMTP id RAA21240 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:50:14 -0500 (CDT) Posted-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:50:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from diogenes@localhost) by isis.visi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA06623 for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:50:13 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:50:13 -0500 From: Alex To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: origin Message-ID: <19990525175013.D26813@isis.visi.com> References: <001901bea660$27e14ae0$f4521c26@panduhboi> <19990525023939.C26813@isis.visi.com> <000901bea6b5$9d252060$ef511c26@panduhboi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <000901bea6b5$9d252060$ef511c26@panduhboi>; from Anton on Tue, May 25, 1999 at 06:50:49AM -0700 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well... other than a few, i have recieved many positive emails about orgin, therefore i will be going. so find me and i'll talk to you and maybe even give you a hug ;) so my name is alex, i'll being wearing a black xfiles tshirt. so i'll see you all there. see you all there... -a From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 22:50:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17271 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 22:50:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 17259 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 22:50:47 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 22:50:47 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EBHGMFAC; Tue, 25 May 1999 18:50:33 EDT To: WizardCCCA@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:44:34 -0700 Subject: Re: DUNE Message-ID: <19990525.155459.-521323.1.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-3,6-19 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Here is the website: www.dunefestival.com Yes, Paul Van Dyk will be there, as well as Christopher Lawrence and Doran. Hopefully, if I talk one of my friends to making the journey, I will be too. PEace, Theresa On Mon, 24 May 1999 21:48:13 EDT WizardCCCA@aol.com writes: >Can anyone give me info on this? I looked it up on the calender and it >isn't >posted. I think I heard that Paul Van Dyk is going to be there?? Can >someone >help me out? > >Thanks, >Liz or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 22:51:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18126 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 22:51:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 18114 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 22:51:25 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 22:51:25 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EBHGMFW6; Tue, 25 May 1999 18:50:34 EDT To: gherbst@home.com Cc: j_flight@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:47:52 -0700 Subject: Re: DUNE Message-ID: <19990525.155459.-521323.2.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 3-7,9-111 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I went to Dune last year, and it seriously changed my entire raving experience, as well as my life. That's why i'm so eager to get down there this year. If I only had a car. But where there's a will, there's a way!!!! Peace, Theresa On Mon, 24 May 1999 21:36:44 -0700 "Geoff Herbst" writes: >how many Dunes have you been to? > >Law enforcement has always been invited and encouraged to attend, >to show them and the other agencies down there that the dune crew >and attendees are responsible, law-abiding people trying to have a >good >time. >the first one may have been free, but dune III was the best $10 I ever >spent >(still fantasic lineup and the best visuals / sound setup I've ever >experieneced outdoors) >Dune IV was not $20... they were only able to recover revenue for >about >3000 kids >although more than 8000 showed up (and got in without paying). I'm >sure >they are >gonna once again blow us away with their visuals they have planned >this >year, >and sound will be great. world class lineup. > >PS with the extra money they had left from Dune III, (remember it was >a $10 >party) >they threw a FREE party for all those in attendence at a local >bowling >alley-(yes in socal) >Tonka sound, great DJs for the night, and all you can bowl bowling >for >all-it was a fantastic >time from what I heard. I think there was a Dune thankyou party after >the >last one too (again >thrown from proceeds) > >These guys ARENT in this to make a cent. they work hard year round >for >this... >give it their BEST and upmost effort each year despite incredible work >and >odds (I remember >hearing the medical emergency crews at Dune III walking around, trying >their >best to pull surprise >inspections to get the promoters to back down-but they had EVERYTHING >covered...right down to >the number of snake bite / spider bite kits recommended by agencies >per >person for the night. they >have the local vegetation taped off to protect it. They really do >leave the >desert locations they use >far better than they found them. The BLM guys actually got off >work at >Dune III and came back >to party with us.... > >and with the john abel event last year (kid wandering off AGAINST all >warnings and exclamations >and pleading by the promoters not to climb, wander off, or endanger >themselves (on flyers, website, >and told to every car at the location as they bought tix)... I'm sure >they >have a lot more liability they >have to cover and press attention they have to account for-which >costs >money. > >Just a few thoughts before you go dissing one of the best crews in the >world >(IMO) > >I'll see you all there! I cant wait! > >gEoff ;) > >-----Original Message----- >From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org >[mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org] On >Behalf Of Johnathan Flight >Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 7:42 PM >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: DUNE > >woah. > >is it just me or have they really shifted the image of >their event... > >from a 600 person free party to a huge $20 circus... >fully equiped w/ law enforcement and all... > >gee, this has never happened before. > >;) > >--jf > > > > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 23:20:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10995 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 23:20:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 10986 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 23:20:34 -0000 Received: from nettapp.nettwerk.com (HELO budd.nettwerk.com) (209.17.154.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 23:20:34 -0000 Received: from [216.101.68.178] (adsl-216-101-68-178.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [216.101.68.178]) by budd.nettwerk.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA04477 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:16:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: william@mailhost.nettwerk.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:23:53 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: william godoy Subject: Chemical Brothers Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk To all of you, like myself, that find an amazing quality about Spiritualized the band. Please check out the new Chemical Brothers, it's brilliant. It sounds like the Chem Bros have been listening to Pure Phase none stop. I've seen the scene change so much over these years since my first rave, which was Quadrophonia in L.A. The music has shot in so many directions, that I'm awed by it's trancendece into being a form of music that will always be played,heard,and made. But to tell you the truth I DO LIKE IT when pop music is bred into beats, such as the Chemical Brothers songs "Life Is Sweet" + "Setting Sun", also Underworld's "Born Slippy". I know some will shrug away from these songs and maybe label my taste as mainstream. But it's not. Their shouldn't be ELITISM in music, and these tracks just happened to find there way on the radio. Mind you I'm not the biggest fan of Fat Boy.For god's sake these cats got to make a living some day. Well anyways, the Chemical Brothers is brilliant, and all hail the new Underworld. And if your curious I lay my affilation to The Orb and most Blue Room releases. much love William From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 23:29:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19260 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 23:29:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 19250 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 23:29:49 -0000 Received: from web1002.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.92) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 23:29:49 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525232948.26867.rocketmail@web1002.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.173.232.45] by web1002.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:29:48 PDT Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:29:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Brandon Trumble Subject: LETS PUT AND END TO THIS! To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok this subject is getting way out of hand... Everyone has their own opinion, and there are perfectly valid and good points in all of them, in turn bad ones too. We can go on for days about who's old enough what people should or should not do, (in fact i we have already!) age is just another form of segregation and the rave community is going to suffer from it. Its unity that makes raves a whole different sub-culture, The rave scene has done a tremendous job in eliminating racial segregation, but i think that the scene needs to tear down another wall! People are people and most are drawn to the scene because of the carefree, fun, loving environment it provides. (Massives on the other hand are a different story and I think you guys can sympathise with me on that one!) :) So let me just end by saying this... If you think minors are out of place at events, then go to 18+ partys, if you think 18 is too young go to 21+ partys, if you are a minor keep going to your all ages partys, AND EVERYBODY ENJOY THEMSELVS, its your right party and there is a vast selection of all age, 18+, and 21+, go to the party where you will be most happy! AND RAVE ON NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE! Brandon "KyD" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 23:32:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21519 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 23:32:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 21510 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 23:32:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO osiris.vegasquick.com) (root@209.101.75.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 23:32:25 -0000 Received: from seker (seker.socalraves.com [209.101.75.16] (may be forged)) by osiris.vegasquick.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA23780; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:31:50 -0700 From: "Vegas Rick" To: , Subject: RE: whoa there mr las vegas Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:22:56 -0700 Message-ID: <001b01bea705$85049e20$104b65d1@t2000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <927671400.13081.564@excite.com> Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Leslie wrote: > without snipping actual quotes (which is difficult at best when one > subscribes to the digest)... > > whoever you are, mr. las vegas, i think there may be some > misunderstanding. Based on your reply, I understand it perfectly. > in the scene in the bay area that i am aware of (and i go to parties large > and small, massives to undergounds, candy raves to crazy clubs).... the > music is created by grownups. now, maybe you passed out some > tapes when you > were 16, but if you can find a true musical contributor who is 16 around > here, please introduce me. most djs and music producers i know are well > over 18, and producers are often older because there is investment in > equipment required. not to mention the years of practice and > devotion that > it takes. and that goes for the producers of music worldwide, > i'd venture. I concur wholeheartedly. They are the one's that create the music. But how many large parties have you gone too that are exclusively DJ's dancing around? It is the kids spending their money to support these DJ's and producers and promoters that make the "scene." These kids are the ones that help the DJ's get their money and such by buying their music and mixtapes. This is not a "teenagers" vs. "adults" argument to me. This is an argument about the contribution of teenagers to the overall good of the scene. Yes, there are fuckups, but there are just as many fuckups that are adults. To say that adults always rave responsibly is foolish. > kids do not generally create music... in reality, kids do not generally > *create* much new... they are in the stage of their life where they study > other people's creations, and hopefully learn to modify and adapt those > things... this is why we see derivative, trend-oriented > behaviors in youth > culture... because kids may grab onto new styles others create (and > occasionally there are truly trendsetting kids)... but generally > kids follow > trends..... When you're right, you're right. I shouldn't of said they "create" the scene, they didn't. But they are the ones that give the ebb and flow to it with their energy and their open minds. > and wherever you got the impression that adults party differently > because we > manufacture drugs and can afford to take cabs home. stop, you're > killing me. > perhaps you actually live in las vegas where life imitates... um, > something > else. > adults party differently because we are adults. we are more > experienced. we > are more independnet. we are less succeptible (sp?) to peer > pressure. and we > are far more likely to be responsible for ourselves... and with a respect > for what it takes to keep something like our scene alive. Well, I grew up in Southern California and I now spend my time almost equally between Las Vegas and San Francisco. Adults do party differently, that's what most of this thread is about. But just because they party differently doesn't mean we have to cut out the younger crowd. Right, we are more experienced. How did we get that experience? When were young, we fucked up a lot at parties and learned our lessons. Just like the teens are doing so now. As far as being less susceptible to peer pressure...that view is inane at best. I deal with hundreds adults a day and I can't think of anyone more susceptible to it. If peer pressure isn't an issue among adults, how do you explain Yanni and Michael Bolton? :) We do tend to be more responsible for ourselves, but there are plenty of responsible teenagers too. There are a lot of teenagers who know what it takes to keep the scene alive. How many people have quit this list because "parties just aren't fun for them anymore" or they "feel jaded." Lot's have. The teens give us the influx of new energy that will truly keep the scene alive. > yes, adults have more money. whoo, big ephiphany, that. that's because > we're responsible adults who work. (of course i see some kiddies > with cash > too, but that's often from way-too-large allowances, if you ask me). True. You have to pick your parents carefully. > but the difference between all-adult parties and parties with > kiddies is not > just in how many people show up... it's also in what *kinds* of > people show > up. see, when a party is all adults, especially underground parties that > attract adult crowds (and to be real, that's probably more than > most people > realize)... the difference is that partiers are generally more > reliable and > responsible in their lives in general and they know why they're there.... > and it's most often for the music. Then how do you explain that 73% of drug users are over 21? That only 21% of teenagers do drugs on a regular basis as opposed to the 29% of adults (prideusa.org)? They're not all there for the music. The main attraction for underground parties, rave style, when they started back in the 80's was a place to drink after hours and to find drugs. Didn't you ever watch Beverly Hills, 90210? :) Seriously, the music was a great part of it, that's what kept the scene moving and going when the drinkers went home, but let's not kid ourselves as to why a lot of the people showed up. > and ... once again (in case i haven't emphasized this enough) ... when an > adult is at a party and decides to alter their state, a) > generally they make > a responsible decision that doesn't require other people to take > them to the > hospital and b) they have the legal right to make that decision for > themselves. do they get sloppy sometimes? yes. does the party > promoter/host have legal liability for it? probably not. No one ever has a legal right to do illegal drugs. But, you're right they are only responsible for themselves and if a kid gets caught, the parents can be held responsible. But I've thrown plenty of parties that the only people we took to the hospital were the supposedly responsible adults AND I've been held just as responsible as if a kid did it. And even if I'm not HELD responsible by someone, I'm still responsible, that's just my attitude towards the parties I throw. > if there is a death at a party because an adult made a choice and wandered > into the wildnerness or whatever... that is tragic and it reflects on the > adult, and makes us try to do what we can to prevent it from happening > again. but if it happens to someone's little baby who wasn't > supposed to be > there int he first place... then we have a new problem. > tragedies happen in > our world all the time... and sometimes that is at parties.... we should > work to reduce the risks .... and that's what we're doing. You're not necessarily reducing the risk, because the teens are gonna party anyway. I'd rather have them come to one of my parties where I have people I know on my staff looking out for problems and knowing what to look for than the kids going somewhere with a whole bunch of their inexperienced friends. It's like the condom issue, do you give your kids condoms at age 15 because you know they're having sex? Or do you just tell them not to have sex and let them fend for themselves? > the posts we're seeing from people who are facing the reality of our > situation and the potential need to protect ourselves by making > events 18-up > are from people who are IN THE SCENE... some are djs, some are promoters, > some have simply been dedicated ravers for years (like me) who > know how much > we stand to lose unless we do something. these are posts from people who > have been part of the scene for years, and will do what needs to > be done to > protect our future ability to dance all night. Okay, now say this with your best German accent and raise your right hand into the air at a 45 degree angle. > (and by the way and off track... as a longtime househead (the deeper the > better), and a lover of breakbeats, with a passion for melodic > trance and a > kickass addiction to drum & bass... will you guys stop arguing > about what's > better and stop trying to categorize people by what they like!... > except for > that minimal techno, of course, that's for geeks ;^) > Geeks and video games. --Vegas Rick The sooner all the animals are extinct, the sooner we'll find their money. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 23:40:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26315 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 23:40:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 26299 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 23:40:37 -0000 Received: from fletch.fix.net (telkionish@206.190.71.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 23:40:37 -0000 Received: from localhost (telkionish@localhost) by fletch.fix.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA03316 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:40:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:40:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Adair To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Whoa there mr las vegas Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well... for the most part, it is true that most of the promoters and DJ's are older people.... not entirely though.... Remember that party last weekend in sacramento that MODA gave such great reviews, Emagine Nation??? I personally know the guy who masterminded that whole party, and I am pretty sure he is 19... Could be 18, not exactly sure... Just barely old enough to sign for stuff himself, and his party went GREAT!! I used to throw little undergrounds back when I was younger, but stopped when I was 19 because i moved away to attend a different university... The three other main people in our crew were 17, 17, and 16... Our parties never got busted, never an OD... I think I was the oldest DJ that ever spun... At one of our parties we had 15 year old ryan spin a set of hard european trance with the records he had just brought back from france... He kicked ass too.. not a single train wreck, good track selection... He had 300 people, almost all of them older than him, shaking their booty non stop for an hour, and this was back in 96, back when trance was not near as popular... sure... MOST of the promoters are older.. late 20's, early 30's... But dont think all the teenagers are melted into a puddle on the floor, and not doing anything positive... But I bet ryan would be pretty pissed if you told him he was old enough to spin at a party, but not mature enough to handle himself at a party... Gregere PS.. I think the reason we see so many 15 year olds fucked up at parties is because they dont have anywhere else to do it, unless their parents are out of town for the weekend... sorry if somebody has already pointed this out.. I have been wearing out my delete key for most of the day.. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 3:30 PM Subject: whoa there mr las vegas > in the scene in the bay area that i am aware of (and i go to parties large > and small, massives to undergounds, candy raves to crazy clubs).... the > music is created by grownups. now, maybe you passed out some tapes when you > were 16, but if you can find a true musical contributor who is 16 around > here, please introduce me. most djs and music producers i know are well > over 18, and producers are often older because there is investment in > equipment required. not to mention the years of practice and devotion that > it takes. and that goes for the producers of music worldwide, i'd venture. > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 23:50:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 589 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 23:50:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 578 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 23:50:05 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 23:50:05 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com (14420) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJKZa02054 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 19:48:57 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: <44c02bc.247c90d0@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 19:48:32 EDT Subject: nrr&rr at the same time! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Netmail sub 2 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk NRR: hehehe i just came around from a narcoleptic fit.. where I slipped into a coma for god knows how long and just awoke to the feeling of keyboard pressed against my face, and the ring'ing of error codes singing to me. when did i fall asleep and have any of my coworkers seen me??? whoa that was strange! 15 minutes left till 5 and then i'm off of work and my real day begins... RR: besides all that... where is everyone heading out to this weekend??? I'll be here in sac workin the water at star*burst.. if you go come say hi to me! <3 Amber R http://members.aol.com/JUNGurlE/StarBurst.html "cause its tuff at the top....." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue May 25 23:56:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5454 invoked by uid 6000); 25 May 1999 23:56:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 5441 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 23:56:29 -0000 Received: from web601.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.165) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 23:56:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525235621.10087.rocketmail@web601.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.102.117.86] by web601.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:56:21 PDT Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:56:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Queen Amidala's boy toy Reply-To: elias_smith@juno.com Subject: Re: CHILL OUT!? starbores?!? To: Madhvi Dalal Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --- Madhvi Dalal wrote: > > Don't you think that being on a > mailing list there just might > be a chance that not every thread will suit you? > Like maybe 500 posts on > STARBORES STARBORES?!?!?! I'm insulted! I have a good mind too flame you but have absolutely nothing clever to say. Err... gr! I guess everybody is entitled to their opinion. =) -darth jar jar p.s. im totaly screwin with you so pleaase dont take offense. I'm just freagin bored and would rather not reply to the ridiculous HOUSE vs. TECHNO vs. TRANCE vs. POLKA vs. 18+ vs. MINORS vs. KILLING THE SCENE vs. STARWARS vs. STAR TREK vs. PLAYSTATION vs. NINTENDO64 vs. MAYONNAISE vs. MUSTARD thread. === <> <<--MegaHertZ-->> http://www.MHz.nu 415-395-8448 We eat candy ravers for breakfast... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 00:36:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27662 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 00:36:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 27616 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 00:35:49 -0000 Received: from web703.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.23) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 00:35:49 -0000 Message-ID: <19990526003548.25163.rocketmail@web703.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.134.242.28] by web703.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:35:48 PDT Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:35:48 -0700 (PDT) From: E T Subject: Fwd: MORE Metro. tix To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1957747793-927678948=:24657" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --0-1957747793-927678948=:24657 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Note: forwarded message attached. --0-1957747793-927678948=:24657 Content-Type: message/rfc822 X-Apparently-To: cityhunter69@yahoo.com via mdd702.mail.yahoo.com Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by mta108.yahoomail.com with SMTP; 25 May 1999 10:57:14 -0700 Received: from OrigABC3@aol.com (4457) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rYDOa02054 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:53:53 -0400 (EDT) From: OrigABC3@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:53:52 EDT Subject: MORE Metro. tix To: cityhunter69@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Content-Length: 719 I have 5 - 6 Metro tix I need to sell, I bought them for myself and friends for $26, come to find that I can't go, and now my friends don't want to go. I need to sell these ASAP and am willing to sell them for $20, you can page me at 415 224 8903 or leave a Voice Mail @ 415 564 6585, or a message with who ever picks up. The only thing is, I need to sell all 6 or bust. I am very desperate!!! IF you page me leave the code 800 after your # so I'll know that it's in regards to the Metro Tix. From what I hear it's gonna be off the hook!!! From what I hear they have run out of tix at some locations. Please respond ASAP! peace, Austin live in SF but willing to C what's up if you live somewhere else --0-1957747793-927678948=:24657-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 00:36:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27855 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 00:36:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 27659 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 00:36:00 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 00:36:00 -0000 Received: from Dayraver@aol.com (14420) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vSBYa02270 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 20:35:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Dayraver@aol.com Message-ID: <44c02c9.247c9bc7@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 20:35:19 EDT Subject: What to do, what to do. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi folks, almost there, all you peeps with finals know what I'm talking about. Everyone's review of 12 Monkeys doesn't make me feel so bad for choosing to stay home and study (cuz school's gotta come first) last weekend. So everyone says 12 Monkeys was wack huh? Yeah that place is kinda too big, love that pit though. My mind has been on nothing but finals for a week now, i haven't even figured out which party I'm goin to ta kick off my summer. So what is there this weekend? Screw Metropolis, respect for tha Jungle Room but that's about all that would interest me in going to that party and I'm really tired of 2nd and crack, so what else is there that day, that weekend? Someone told me camp out but I got no clue. I wanna hear some funky beats this weekend an just find that groove an roll no, fry, no! Why not enjoy both and flip, yeah! that's tha ticket. Any suggestions. Somebody say list party? Me very down fer that, info pleeease. Anybody know if there's an outdoor, my friend was teasing me that there was. Anyways, everybody keep smilin'. Adam. =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 00:52:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7406 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 00:52:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 7337 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 00:52:40 -0000 Received: from kzsu.stanford.edu (36.118.0.90) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 00:52:40 -0000 Received: from kzsu.Stanford.EDU (KZSU.Stanford.EDU [36.118.0.90]) by kzsu.Stanford.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA02316; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:52:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:52:36 -0700 (PDT) From: "J.C." To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: BSP: An Epiphany of Sound May 25th. Message-ID: X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk No, it's not AndyW. It's SFR's very own Plastic Nuclear Ferret, Shane Knapp [Epiphany]. And I'm happy to announce that he will be the guest DJ (his first radio appearance) on An Epiphany of Sound this evening on KZSU, 90.1 FM in the Bay Area. He plans to amaze you with the dulcimer tones of a special blend of jungle So get on your dancin shoes and tune it in. If you can't pick KZSU up over the air, tune in over the net at http://realaudio.stanford.edu. Hope you're listening. -- "An Epiphany of Sound" - 90.1 FM Tuesdays from 9PM-Mid Pacific. (Also on the web at http://realaudio.stanford.edu/). Playlists and humor list archives at http://www-kzsu.stanford.edu/~dougm "Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of KZSU Radio or Stanford University." (or words to that effect.) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 01:36:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25033 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 01:36:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 25022 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 01:36:32 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 01:36:32 -0000 Received: from BlueWAK@aol.com (3956) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rCXHa02575; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:34:22 -0400 (EDT) From: BlueWAK@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:34:21 EDT Subject: Re: 18+ parties, how to regulate? To: TonicBond@aol.com, thatpisces@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 52 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >>then we card and take tix at the map point... This will ONLY work if we have enough people doing it. It takes long enough to get through the line because of searching. Can you imagine how long it will take carding? Not that I'm against it...just promotes PLEASE if you do this..prepare in advance and have enough people to keep the lines moving.... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 01:50:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 793 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 01:50:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 785 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 01:50:05 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 01:50:05 -0000 Received: from Markis1012@aol.com (326) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id dIAMa02744; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:49:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Markis1012@aol.com Message-ID: <2798631c.247cad23@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:49:23 EDT Subject: Re: Metropolis, Festivals, why is this bad To: maxmcc@csua.berkeley.edu CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk preach on my brother preach on. I'll be sure to see you at metropolis just like every other party I go to. Ignore all the wanna be gangsters and enjoy your self! markis(junglejunkie) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 01:55:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2983 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 01:55:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 2975 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 01:55:03 -0000 Received: from dot.crosswinds.net (204.50.152.131) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 01:55:03 -0000 Received: from panduhboi (ip250.san-francisco31.ca.pub-ip.psi.net [38.28.81.250]) by dot.crosswinds.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA56444 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:02:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from nemo@crosswinds.net) Message-ID: <000e01bea719$a0136840$fa511c26@panduhboi> From: "Anton" To: "sfraves" Subject: Re: trance sux, house rox Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 18:46:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01BEA6DE.E32D4D20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BEA6DE.E32D4D20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable okay, i generally don't like getting caught up in this drama, but that = was a very blatantly ignorant statement... stop stating your opinion as if it were fact... pleeeeeease. Luv an Lite, Anton ( nemo ) btw, flame me all u want, you'll only get smiles from me... =3D) ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BEA6DE.E32D4D20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
okay, i generally don't like getting = caught up in=20 this drama, but that was a very blatantly ignorant = statement...
stop stating your opinion as if it were = fact...=20 pleeeeeease.
 
Luv an Lite,
Anton   ( nemo )
 
btw, flame me all u want, you'll only = get smiles=20 from me...   =3D)
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BEA6DE.E32D4D20-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 02:02:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6438 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 02:02:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 6293 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 02:02:03 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 02:02:03 -0000 Received: from Tekno313@aol.com (402) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id eWFTa02604; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:58:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Tekno313@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:58:42 EDT Subject: Re: does anyone understand house music?! To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/24/99 11:03:55 PM, JOELANZON@prodigy.net writes: <> it never died; it just went out of vogue. the minute someone "cool" tells the mindless masses and the funkless "programmers" that it's ok to play/like House again, they'll all do it. The same thing happened with Techno in this city and all the House DJ's were playing Detroit this and Detroit that. Now, play a techno track at a House gig and you get accused of trying to be Stacey Pullen or something. It's like originality is discouraged. And dont even let me start on the so-called "techno" purists around here... monty luke justice league sound system http://www.justiceleague.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 02:16:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13674 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 02:16:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 13661 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 02:16:17 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 02:16:17 -0000 Received: from Markis1012@aol.com (326) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vCHHa14682; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:14:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Markis1012@aol.com Message-ID: <3434e000.247cb2fc@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 22:14:20 EDT Subject: Parties at 2nd & jax To: TonicBond@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk O.K. Whatever tickles your fancy guys. I'm just sayin! I wouldn't spend 20 to 25 bucks to be packed inside a room beyond maximum capacity to the point to where you can't dance or even breath for that matter. I go to parties to dance and it's a little hard to do that if there is a human body within 1 millimeter away from you at all times. Or to get my pre-sale ticket and get turned away at the door. That would be so sad:( !! But all in all, If you do end up going to Origin or any party at 2nd and jax for that matter. Just be safe. It really isn't cool to be around THAT many DAmn people at once. I mean DAMN..............PRomoters are WAY greedy for doing that to people. E-nuff is E-nuff. markis(junglejunkie) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 02:17:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14969 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 02:17:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 14961 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 02:17:53 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 02:17:53 -0000 Received: from Tekno313@aol.com (402) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id uSZSa02629; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:16:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Tekno313@aol.com Message-ID: <65d461ad.247cb36a@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 22:16:10 EDT Subject: Sasha was huge.... To: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/25/99 12:27:38 AM, mdalal@mail.ixpres.com writes: <> Actually, Sasha has been huge in the US since at least '93...I had a tape of him from Universe in 1992 that had not one Prog. Trance/Prog. House track on it. It also had an MC throughout the entire tape that was the best MC'ing I've ever heard on top of house music. The tape was stolen from me. In fact, if anyone has a copy of this tape, I'd love to dub it from ya... monty luke http://www.justiceleague.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 02:23:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16506 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 02:22:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 16475 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 02:22:54 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 02:22:54 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com (4533) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJPUa02743; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:20:30 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: <5a3eeac3.247cb431@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 22:19:29 EDT Subject: Re: Parties at 2nd & jax To: Markis1012@aol.com, TonicBond@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have mixed feelings on parties there... Popsikle sucked, F8 was good, Harmony sucked (IMO) First Light kicked ass... i dunno I guess it just depends on the night and how many people are let in. matt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 02:29:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20276 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 02:29:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 20255 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 02:29:21 -0000 Received: from web1001.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.91) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 02:29:21 -0000 Message-ID: <19990526022801.9409.rocketmail@web1001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.173.231.249] by web1001.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 25 May 1999 19:28:01 PDT Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 19:28:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Brandon Trumble Subject: What's this? GRATITUDE!? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk There is a party called Gratitude this weekend. I wanted to know first off if there is anyone from the crew thats throwing this party on the SFR list and I also want to know if anyone on the list has been to a previous gratitude party so they can tell me if they are good or not. Thanx Brandon "KyD" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 02:42:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27322 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 02:42:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 27235 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 02:41:57 -0000 Received: from web1001.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.91) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 02:41:57 -0000 Message-ID: <19990526024037.11855.rocketmail@web1001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.173.231.249] by web1001.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 25 May 1999 19:40:37 PDT Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 19:40:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Brandon Trumble Subject: Re: Parties at 2nd & jax To: Markis1012@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I sympathise with you totally I went to the new years Origin and it sucked, I like to dance also not jump up and down rubbing against sweaty bodys, stepping on peoples feet, and getting all dirty from the muddy floors. They really need to regulate the amount of preople they stuff in that death trap. BUT when its not stuffed to the cieling with people its really a cool venue. T&JF 2 year was there last weekend and there was plenty of room, the floor wasn't muddy and it wasn't even hot enough to break a tear of sweat. Oh yeah but the porto pottys sux too! I guess anything is better than newberrys though (gawd that place sucked... dont make me elaborate on that place i will go off!)! but the best place to throw a party will always be maritime hall even though they cant throw partys there anymore. =*( (im sad) Brandon "KyD" --- Markis1012@aol.com wrote: > O.K. Whatever tickles your fancy guys. I'm just > sayin! I wouldn't spend 20 to > 25 bucks to be packed inside a room beyond maximum > capacity to the point to > where you can't dance or even breath for that > matter. I go to parties to > dance and it's a little hard to do that if there is > a human body within 1 > millimeter away from you at all times. Or to get my > pre-sale ticket and get > turned away at the door. That would be so sad:( !! > > But all in all, If you do end up going to > Origin or any party at 2nd > and jax for that matter. Just be safe. It really > isn't cool to be around THAT > many DAmn people at once. I mean > DAMN..............PRomoters are WAY greedy > for doing that to people. E-nuff is E-nuff. > > markis(junglejunkie) > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 02:43:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27714 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 02:42:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 27649 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 02:42:30 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 02:42:30 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (367) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLTIa01220 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:41:01 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 22:41:03 EDT Subject: [nrr] one liner To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Q: What is a man's idea of safe sex? A: A padded head board From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 03:05:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7800 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 03:04:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 7780 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 03:04:57 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 03:04:57 -0000 Received: from PHUNKN3@aol.com (315) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNCKa02106 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:03:44 -0400 (EDT) From: PHUNKN3@aol.com Message-ID: <5bde4692.247cbe90@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:03:44 EDT Subject: BSP: PHUNCKTION 2NITE (5/25)--Noel, Juju, MCDuh & guest DJ Siren To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 56 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 2NITE!!!!!!.......... Tuesday, May 24th **PHUNCKTION** DRUM N BASS IN MOTION w/ residents: Noel. Juju & DUH mc special guest SIREN / Bassment this all goes down @ THE TOP every tues. 424 HAIGHT @ WEBSTER 10pm-2am / 21+ / 3 bones info/mailing list: 415.789.8000 x1147 JUNE guests: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ R.A.W. / L.A..-------------------- 1st JASON MOUSE------------------- 8th SINE / Platinum agent / PHILLY--- 15th MACHETE / L.A.------------------ 22nd ABSTRACT---------------------- 29th ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Noel PHUNCKATECK COMMUNICATIONS dj_noel_sf@hotmail.com htp://www.sfdb.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 03:09:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12011 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 03:09:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 12003 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 03:09:48 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 03:09:48 -0000 Received: from Markis1012@aol.com (14457) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rLUVa26942; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:07:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Markis1012@aol.com Message-ID: <3635af89.247cbf64@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:07:16 EDT Subject: Parties at 2nd & jax To: pacific_united_ravers@yahoo.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk FINALLY someone with some sense! I TOTALLY agree with you. I would go to Maritime before 2nd and jax anyday. But I think the best locations to go to are either 78minna & homebase. I know I will receive death threats for that comment but OH WELL. markis(junglejunkie) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 03:27:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22313 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 03:27:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 22270 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 03:27:14 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 03:27:14 -0000 Received: from PHUNKN3@aol.com (315) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rNMQa15563; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:18:03 -0400 (EDT) From: PHUNKN3@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:18:01 EDT Subject: Re: A QUESTION FOR JUNGLE DJs To: montereypat@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 56 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Pat asked...... <> Well, I've been DJing since 1985, and have been into music since birth.......What I bring to the table in terms of DJing, are my main influences of Soul, R & B & Funk. If you've heard my sets, It mostly consists of those elements...or anything that touches on those w/ little nuances of the like. I mix it up as well with the other styles of jungle to give the listener/dancer a variety....so you don't just hear one particular style.....That is a direct line from my influences while growing up. Easy, Noel PHUNCKATECK COMMUNICATIONS dj_noel_sf@hotmail.com http://www.sfdb.com info/booking: 415.789.8000 x1147 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 03:44:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1168 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 03:44:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 1153 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 03:44:06 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 03:44:06 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com (14378) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iFUTa02105; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:04:28 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:04:28 EDT Subject: Re: kids at parties(was children of the sun...) To: poeie@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well, why i understand the legal arguement behind this logic.... i'd hate to have to party without my friends who aren't 18, and who are mature enough to be there.... but with things like what happened at COTS and the legal charges of harboring a minor, i can see where the idea might take off with at least a few promoters... the issue of age limits at parties is a difficult one... our scene is based at least in part on the idea of acceptance of all different types of people and the ability to gather together and dance and listen to our music regardless of what the law says.... to stop all ages parties kinda goes against this.., personally i'm torn... i want to say, yes there should definately be an age limit cuz i'm sick and tired of seeing so many super young kids doing god knows what kinds of drugs without having even given their bodies and minds the full potentional to develop... i think that there is a such thing as someone that is too young to be up all nite is some warehouse or club or whatever, especially if their parents don't know that they are there..... but at the same time i don't think it is fair to use age as an indicator of maturity or readiness... i know that i personally resented restrictions that i faced because of my age when i was younger because i was more mature and "older for my age". but i think it was leslie that said a while ago that she thought if you weren't old enough to drive that you weren't old enough to be at a rave... i think that she has the right idea there..... i think that older teens who aren't quite 18 yet face a lot of sometimes unfair restrictions, and in most cases, these kids are old enough to be partying... but there is no answer to this arguement.... just my thoughts... love and hugs and kisses, tina Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:35:25 GMT From: "ve anne" Subject: Re: kids at parties(was children of the sun...) watching 13-15 year old kids drugged up on E at parties make me uneasy. if i suggest that all parties be 18+ to solve the problem of parents looking for their kids, am i being too harsh? veanne From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 03:48:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3713 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 03:48:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 3694 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 03:48:51 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd94.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.158) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 03:48:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 56346 invoked by uid 0); 26 May 1999 03:48:24 -0000 Message-ID: <19990526034824.56345.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 152.163.204.56 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 25 May 1999 20:48:23 PDT X-Originating-IP: [152.163.204.56] From: "sHaWn ." To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Fwd: bfp:FREEDOM! Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 20:48:23 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >From: HiTekMia@aol.com >To: sacraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: bfp:FREEDOM! >Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 02:44:15 EDT > >Saturday, July 3rd thru Sunday. July 4th >Choice presents FREEDOM > an outdoor festival of dance to celebrate life > >DJs Terry Francis, Huggy, Phil Smart (Australia), Funk-d-Void (live), Mark >Farina, J Smith (live), Tony, Jeno, Jon Williams, Josh, Doran, Dutch, >Simon, >Adnan, M3, Foxgluv, Deep Red feat. Jamalski, joe Rice, Nick Philip, >Darkhorse, Bertie Smalls vs. Mopractice (aka Martin O'Brien) > >10am July 3 - sunset July 4 >415.905.8888 415.522.3994 >$25 presale : $30 door > >www.keepitalive.com > >PREPARE: pack well, respect Mother Earth and be waste conscious. > >JOURNEY: Please, please carpool and drive safely, bus service available >(call >for trips from your area). > >FOOD/DRINK: Hempseed Cafe, organic consciousness collective, O'Briens >veggie >burgers, Phoebe's juices, FREE WATER, bring your own container (empty or >sealed) > >BRING: smiles and LOTS OF LOVE, food, water, flashlight, sunscreen, bug >repellent, coolers, tents, blankets, extra socks and tennis shoes > >DON'T BRING: fireworks, alcohol, dogs, RVs or glass. > >See ya there with a smile on your face and love in your heart! I'll send >more >info as it becomes available. > > Love and light, > Mia From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 03:54:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8650 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 03:54:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 8642 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 03:54:42 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 03:54:42 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (14408) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vSQHa02574 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:53:34 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:53:14 EDT Subject: Re: and the chasm widens???? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OK, I wasn't even going to reply to any of the age posts, but I am SOOOOO incredibly frustrated right now. Hey I've got an idea-how 'bout we put a 18+ limit on buying records? How 'bout I get a ticket every time I dance in public because I'm not 18?? *grr* I don't even know how to express how I am feeling right now. I guess complete frustration is the only word that comes to mind. I go to parties to DANCE and I get sooo much out of it. That moment when I look around at the beautiful faces of people I love, dancing as one, yet also knowing that each person is so exquisitely different and unique, I get an overwhelming feeling of pure...well just PURE I suppose. I would just like to be a representation of all the under 18 kids who party and are responsible. First, I have no trouble balancing my school work and neither do any of my friends who party. I have just recently been notified that I have been accepted into 4 honors classes next year. I have an incredible relationship with my parents (and yes, they know that I go to raves). I DON'T do drugs at raves because frankly, I don't need that to feel the music and dance, which is what I go to do. If anything, it prohibits me from dancing; and these amazing "bonds" that people form with others on E just feel fake to me. I understand that not every kid is responsible, but please....how can u take the remarkable gift of dancing to music I love, and with people I love, away from me and so many others? These posts really depress me and make me feel that all the spiritual and valuable lessons I have learned from raves, among other things, have been an illusion. Can this be true? Am I not allowed to do the things I am most passionate about? *sigh* Thanks for listening.... Alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 04:06:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16628 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 04:06:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 16618 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 04:06:43 -0000 Received: from web114.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.86) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 04:06:43 -0000 Message-ID: <19990526041103.26864.rocketmail@web114.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.44.186.44] by web114.yahoomail.com; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:11:03 PDT Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:11:03 -0700 (PDT) From: NorthBay Collective Subject: 18+ , House Rocks/Trance Sux To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk A couple of quick comments about recent posts. First of all, House does rock BUT by nomeans does that mean Trance sucks. Ian is right when he says you are all lame for even pursuing this topic. I love house music but I went to Blue Room last Sat Night and it featured some of the dopest music I EVER heard (including some housy progressive stuff). Trance would be a lot better around here if some dj's got recognized more for there skills instead of their draw. OK, next topic, party age limits Our scene. This is a pretty crazy statement. I think that "our scene," is made up of all you beautiful individuals (well most of you :)) But by no means have you been locked into this scene. No one forces you to go to these parties. Could you imagine if you got ran out of the house every sat night to go hang out in "the scene." I guess that a bulk of people have realized what a cool thing we have going for us and they want to be a part of it. However, this is not a High School function people, if you cant carry yourselves with maturity, STAY HOME. If you can't take responsibility for your actions, STAY HOME. And lastly if all you can do is bitch and moan about the people I just mentioned then you should stay home too. Tip #1 If you are not satisfied with the parties you have been attending.... Find somewhere else to go, there are plenty of scenes within this scene. If you are not happy that is going to show with each and every person you encounter. It is you and not the baby ravers that are messing things up. They are ignorant because they don't know. You are lame because instead of showing these kids how to party we are attempting to close our doors. How cool is that? Tip #2 QUIT SUPPORTING LAME PARTIES Time and time again people are attending parties paying $15-20 and getting screwed. If a promoter throws a lame party. DON'T SUPPORT THEM ANYMORE. just a thought, nick From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 04:11:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20771 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 04:11:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 20726 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 04:11:47 -0000 Received: from web120.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.121) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 04:11:47 -0000 Message-ID: <19990526041302.4367.rocketmail@web120.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.105.189.72] by web120.yahoomail.com; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:13:02 PDT Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:13:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Violette Subject: Re: Parties at 2nd & jax To: Markis1012@aol.com, SF Raves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Right on my jungle brother! I couldnt say it better myself! I mean why do all you kids go to parties? I no its not to go and stand in one spot ALL night!! You need your space and well you jsut dont get any at 2nd & Crackson!! ~!>Chris FINALLY someone with some sense! I TOTALLY agree > with you. I would go to > Maritime before 2nd and jax anyday. But I think the > best locations to go to > are either 78minna & homebase. I know I will receive > death threats for that > comment but OH WELL. > > markis(junglejunkie) > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 04:23:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29068 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 04:23:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 29002 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 04:23:39 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 04:23:39 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (14408) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vGQWa02589; Wed, 26 May 1999 00:22:54 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <80a4f177.247cd11e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 00:22:54 EDT Subject: Re: re: 18+ pawties and 17- kids To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey no way!!! i was just about to invite all the kids on here to a 17- party i'm gonna throw when i read ur post!!!! LOL!! but yeah, i'm sooo down to have a party w/o a buncha snooty adults there!!! j/k guys...well partially, i'm up for organizing this though, and i know some friends who spin who are under 18 too. god, wouldnt this be fun??? Alida : ) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 05:00:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23762 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 05:00:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 23600 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 05:00:47 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 05:00:47 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com (31) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id tNISa03098; Wed, 26 May 1999 00:59:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: <93c5302f.247cd9bf@aol.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 00:59:43 EDT Subject: Re: 18+ parties again To: akp2@duke.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk akp2@duke.edu wrote: << and ps: i've never overdosed. that doesn't seem like a very responsible << thing to do, are you sure you're still ready to handle this? ROFL. No, really, ROFL. No need to worry about good old Space201. I assure you, he'll be just fine. But thank you for the concern, really. I think at the same time you are missing my point, you are also helping me to prove it. My argument isn't so much the "18+ party" thing, but more of the familiar "does age=maturity" topic. The original comment I replied to was, "No one under 18 is mature enough to be at parties where there are drugs period. Simply because they haven't experienced enough life to understand what their responsiblities are." That's absurd. Does the day you turn 18, automatically make you old enough to handle drugs and staying up all night? Is that the point where they have experienced enough "life"? Not the day before, but the day after, right? Excuse me for getting petty, but THIS IS a stereotype. The reason I brought up my own personal incident was an example that this does happen to people "mature enough" to handle raves. But it seems as if you are using my own experience to DISCREDIT any valid argument I can come up with. Maybe I should have used someone else as an example, but that was my first mistake. I'm 23 now, 19 at the time. I took ONE hit of acid, nothing else, and whatever the fruck they put in the stuff, my system did NOT agree with it. My night ended with a trip in a paddywagon. It was technically an overdose, because it was obviously a little too much for my system too handle. But alas, the circumstances for that night are IRRELAVANT to my argument, but was worth bringing up as an insight to one of the many dangers of using LSD. I have since, not touched the shit. My argument really is very petty and I was simply trying to make a small point with my example. I used myself as an example as to how 18+ kids still fuck up, so the more posts i get saying, "Space201, you're such a dork, you still are not mature enough to party yet" only proves my point. Because like I said, I'm supposedly "mature enough." Don't get me wrong, I don't enjoy watching 14 year olds sprawled and rollin' on the floor at 4 in the morning way past their bed-time. Going to bed that late, they couldn't possibly wake up in time to watch Barney. So my point is actually quite simple. While 18+ events will decrease your overdoses, there are still 17- kids that can handle their shit, and there are 18+ kids (like good old cuddly Space201) that can't. Or in my case, get some BAD SHIT. So the 18+ thing seems kinda silly to me, because it will NOT eliminate the problem. It kinda makes me think you just don't like candy kids goshdarnit! I don't know. But 18+ is a retarted cop-out if you ask me, and NO, I'm not a drug-peddler trying to corrupt the children of America. I leave that up to television. -space201 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 05:10:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3713 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 05:10:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 3701 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 05:10:34 -0000 Received: from mail2.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 05:10:34 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca14-114.ix.netcom.com [205.186.215.114]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA28905 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <374B82D9.77B1D0E0@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 22:12:57 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: DEA Administrator Resigns Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------6474110C328C8D47AF82EEAC" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6474110C328C8D47AF82EEAC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------6474110C328C8D47AF82EEAC Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA09917 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 21:43:25 -0700 (PDT) From: PaulxExWog@aol.com Received: from PaulxExWog@aol.com (401) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 7MQOa02054 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 00:29:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <914cb2a7.247b811b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:29:15 EDT Subject: Fwd: DEA Administrator Resigns To: goodvibe@geocities.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_914cb2a7.247b811b_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 --part1_914cb2a7.247b811b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_914cb2a7.247b811b_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: AOLNews@aol.com From: AOLNews@aol.com Full-name: AOL News Message-ID: <914cb2a7.247b2a2f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 18:18:23 EDT Subject: DEA Administrator Resigns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) To: undisclosed-recipients:; DEA Administrator Resigns .c The Associated Press By MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN WASHINGTON (AP) -- Drug Enforcement Administrator Thomas Constantine turned in his resignation Monday after five years in which he sharply increased the force of agents and warned about Mexican drug corruption. Constantine, 60, informed Attorney General Janet Reno that he intends to leave by mid-summer. ``I've got 39 years in law enforcement, including eight years as superintendent of the New York State Police and five years here,'' Constantine told The Associated Press in an interview. ``It's time to start thinking about other things I want to do in life.'' He said he had turned down corporate jobs here and in New York City and would ``probably end up teaching at one of the universities in New York and consulting in law enforcement.'' Five years is as long as any of the agency's previous administrators have served. Both Constantine and his aides said he was not leaving over any disputes or grievances. His most controversial statements came two years ago in a congressional hearing on drug-financed corruption in Mexico. Just after Mexico's drug czar, Gen. Jesus Gutierrez Rebollo, was himself charged with protecting a drug cartel, Constantine said, ``At this time, there is no civilian law enforcement agency in Mexico with which we can share confidential information.'' On Monday, he said that since then, DEA and the Justice Department have been trying to develop such units. ``Some are beginning to work,'' Constantine said, ``but the traffickers have become infinitely more powerful in the last five years and they are a major threat to citizens of the United States and the institutions of Mexico.'' ``I say what I think, and the policymakers can take my advice or leave it,'' Constantine said. ``I would like to be proved wrong and see all leading organized crime figures in Mexico arrested this year, but that looks to be a very, very difficult objective to reach.'' Since Constantine took over DEA in March, 1994, the agency has added 1,200 agents for a total now of 4,550. He also revamped and computerized its intelligence operations. And several weeks ago, Constantine achieved one of the agency's longstanding goals when he opened a $29 million, separate training academy for its agents and the foreign, state and local police they also train. The new facility, which can house 250 trainees, is adjacent to the FBI Academy in Quantico, Va., where DEA trainees used to have to share space with the FBI. He also revised the drug agency's standards for hiring, training and internal integrity. ``I'll miss the excitement of law enforcement, but I'm proud to have been part of a great profession of people who are underestimated in this country,'' Constantine said. ``If I didn't have a wife, six children and 11 grandchildren, I'd be willing to stay here until the ambulance came for me. AP-NY-05-24-99 1817EDT Copyright 1998 The Associated Press. 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For all of today's news, go to keyword News. --part1_914cb2a7.247b811b_boundary-- --------------6474110C328C8D47AF82EEAC-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 05:51:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5882 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 05:51:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 5680 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 05:51:41 -0000 Received: from law-f120.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.183) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 05:51:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 55803 invoked by uid 0); 26 May 1999 05:51:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990526055113.55802.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.242.28 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:51:12 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.242.28] From: "K Gray" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: It's OK to leave Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 22:51:12 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Nick advises: > >QUIT SUPPORTING LAME PARTIES > >Time and time again people are attending parties paying $15-20 and >getting screwed. If a promoter throws a lame party. DON'T SUPPORT >THEM ANYMORE. But wait, I have a suggestion that is even more radical: If you aren't having a good time: leave the party. That's right. You don't have to stay. Sure, they already have your money, but sometimes your peace of mind and happiness is more important. You may be able to dance it off when the music is good, but sometimes, you just can't recover your groove. I'm not talking about the parties that haven't filled up yet or where the DJs haven't gotten into their groove yet. I'm thinking that it is time to go home when you are physically uncomfortable because it is too hot and too crowded. When the toilets are overflowing and you have to go. When you realize there are no toilets. When you are spiritually saddened by people being rude to you. When you are morally uncomfortable stepping over piles of e-tarded kids. Boris, for example, walked out of a party two weeks ago when a 10-yr-old girl (maybe a short 12-yr-old) asked him for drugs. When you are tired and fed up. When somebody touches you without your permission. When someone throws up on your backpack. When you look around and don't see any friendly faces - only drugged-up zombies sucking the hell out of a Blo-Pop. When you realize that the night is only creating bad memories. Go on, LEAVE. Don't look back. Try again. In search of the vibe, don't settle for less. K From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 06:19:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20720 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 06:19:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 20649 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 06:19:02 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 06:19:02 -0000 Received: from Fiercefigs@aol.com (8001) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLXQa02575 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 02:18:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Fiercefigs@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 02:18:20 EDT Subject: My whoppin 10 cents so there!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Wow lots of Drama heh?** Choas in the highest regard! but this is what it has come too>>> SO BE IT Ya know when I started going to parties a couple years ago it was the older generation of people that i looked up too and admired for them sense of selves. I realized that it was OK to be wierd and different and that the norm sucks!!! But now that I am older I reflect on those people I don't see any more at parties and try to keep thier enthusiasm alive in me and my spirit, for it was those people that taught me a rightous view point OK here's my fricken point I don't feel that way any more:( I go I dance my ass off.Yeah I see my dope ass friends and listen to my favorite Dj's hang out and sweat my butt off with the rest of the group but there is still somethin missin? What is that you ask? I feel that PEOPLE DON'T PARTICPATE IN PARTIES ANYMORE(kids in general) when I mean participate i don't mean help set up and throw shit on the wall(by the way I decorate and take time to do that stuff) but what i mean is I don't see many people urging the crowd on and yelpin at the top of ther lungs feelin the raw energy and movement through there souls and ther booties Instead I see a bunch of kids that frankly have no fuckin clue what this scene is really all about. I mean really how many times have you heard.....HI my name is *SUZIE* this is my 13 year old cousin from Nebraska on E for her first time(SMACK)!! GOOD GOD shouldn't you be like getting coffee and doin other stuff like picken your nose? Ok sorry for the rantin and ravein(heck yeah)!!!! I wholeheartedly agree with Leslie, Kriss, and all the other cooooolies on this list 18+ we have no other choice Reality: COPS DON'T LIKE US!!!!! WE MUST PROTECT OURSELVES sorry for the headache Fiona (one crazy Irish Biotch) stay on that positive vibration:P From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 06:38:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3307 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 06:38:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 3288 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 06:38:31 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 06:38:31 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (399) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNOTa02587 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 02:37:55 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 02:37:55 EDT Subject: It's Riddle Time {nrr} To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Good Luck actually this one is easy: What two items does a boy of 10 have that he didn't have when he was 1? Clue#1 He grows them. Clue#2 Everyone has them - men and women. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 06:40:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5907 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 06:40:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 5899 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 06:40:45 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 06:40:45 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (90) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vFXRa03101; Wed, 26 May 1999 02:40:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <42dc4062.247cf141@aol.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 02:40:01 EDT Subject: Re: It's Riddle Time {nrr} To: WhrDaMud@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk teeth From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 06:45:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8149 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 06:45:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 8140 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 06:45:46 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 06:45:46 -0000 Received: from Anachra@aol.com (8061) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vDQVa02691 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 02:45:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Anachra@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 02:45:12 EDT Subject: Re: It's Riddle Time {nrr} To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk it said two items though....I hope 10 year old boys have more than two teeth (: i keep trying...but i suck at this crap -spacey > teeth From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 06:48:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9419 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 06:48:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 9410 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 06:47:58 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 06:47:58 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (399) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vGWDa26942; Wed, 26 May 1999 02:46:46 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 02:46:46 EDT Subject: Re: It's Riddle Time {nrr} To: Megatron45@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk No i am sorry you are not please try again << teeth....am i right??? DJMEGATRON:mechasoul >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 06:49:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12257 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 06:48:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 12049 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 06:48:55 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 06:48:55 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (399) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHWFa02602; Wed, 26 May 1999 02:48:17 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <27985d75.247cf330@aol.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 02:48:16 EDT Subject: Re: It's Riddle Time {nrr} To: Anachra@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i'll tell ya'll all the awser tomarow enless someone gets it From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 06:49:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14526 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 06:49:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 14495 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 06:49:48 -0000 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (140.142.32.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 06:49:48 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id XAA28890; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:49:46 -0700 Message-ID: <002b01bea743$e9804e60$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: , , Subject: Re: It's Riddle Time {nrr} Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:49:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yeah teeth would work... i was going to say morals, but then the clue #2 caught me... :), alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- ...the unforgettable prestigious reaches manifested by the northwestern region... -=-Hieroglyphics -----Original Message----- From: Megatron45@aol.com To: WhrDaMud@aol.com ; sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 11:40 PM Subject: Re: It's Riddle Time {nrr} >teeth From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 06:59:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18786 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 06:59:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 18769 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 06:59:31 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 06:59:31 -0000 Received: from BabyChinoZ@aol.com (14381) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vANMa08831 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 02:58:45 -0400 (EDT) From: BabyChinoZ@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 02:58:43 EDT Subject: Re:Crazy List/ Trance Opinion To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/25/99 12:58:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jer@best.com writes: << How many of you have intentions to go out this weekend and have a shitty time, be disgusted with candyravers, and complain about the location and how hot it is? Aren't your intentions to go out this weekend and have fuckin' blast cause that's what you want to do? Well do it! and quit complaining. There will always be things we don't like about any situation. Ever heard the saying "Nothing is Perfect"? of course. So ignore the negatives and make the best out of what you've got. DUH... >> That's what i don't understand... everybody knows theres only a few raves every weekend... and that means all these people have to go somewhere... and the are shocked when it's crowded? I've learned to just figure hey it's going to be crowded and I know how to deal with it. I've learned how to deal with anything that would prevent me from enjoying my weekend... because i have a job and and my family to complain about not the parties i go to. I went to 12 Monkeys "We Got the Funk" last weekend and had a blast. I found the perfect place for sound on the far left hand side of the DJ so I couldn't hear the other room. The people bumping me gave me a chance to break from dancin. It did get annoying but i'm use to other people getting in the way. If i wanted to be negative i would have been... It was hot, water was 2 dollars, the sound was awful, people kept bumping into me, i couldn't get to the front and watch DJ Dan, and someone looked at me wrong. ........::::::MY OPINION ABOUT TRANCE:::::::....... It's ok... I don't really like going to parties where it's all trance because i get weirded out unless they change up the records often! Trance is good hard! But my true passion is with JUNGLE! It's fast... it gets me moving...i just have to move to it... Even House gets me to move... but Trance kind of just make me stare... =) as over heard from someone "trance rots your mind" i'm not too sure about that but i think it dose fuck you up! -tyson People Like Us Recycle From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 07:00:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20416 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 07:00:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 20392 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 07:00:34 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 07:00:34 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (90) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vKUIa27309; Wed, 26 May 1999 03:00:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <5e234f3a.247cf5f3@aol.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 03:00:03 EDT Subject: Re: It's Riddle Time {nrr} To: WhrDaMud@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hmmm....what about pubic hair and pimples?? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 07:03:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21996 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 07:03:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 21987 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 07:03:06 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 07:03:06 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (399) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id dZLWa15563; Wed, 26 May 1999 03:02:28 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <1ca1feb8.247cf683@aol.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 03:02:27 EDT Subject: Re: It's Riddle Time {nrr} To: awallace@u.washington.edu, Megatron45@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk nope not morals From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 07:04:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22744 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 07:04:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 22735 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 07:04:14 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 07:04:14 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (399) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vMISa02575; Wed, 26 May 1999 03:03:29 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <9448e90a.247cf6c1@aol.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 03:03:29 EDT Subject: Re: It's Riddle Time {nrr} To: Megatron45@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk nope << hmmm....what about pubic hair and pimples?? >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 07:06:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24007 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 07:06:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 23960 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 07:06:37 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 07:06:37 -0000 Received: from Anachra@aol.com (8061) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vWQZa02573 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 03:05:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Anachra@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 03:05:48 EDT Subject: NRR: you want riddles? I'll give you riddles To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 1 is 3, 3 is 5, 5 is 4 and 4 is the key. What is it? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 07:15:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26275 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 07:14:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 26241 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 07:14:51 -0000 Received: from m1.jersey.juno.com (209.67.33.60) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 07:14:51 -0000 Received: (from supahstah@juno.com) by m1.jersey.juno.com (queuemail) id EBJDFXHY; Wed, 26 May 1999 03:14:22 EDT To: DjShUbErT@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 00:13:41 -0700 Subject: Re: BSP : Fri Night Message-ID: <19990526.001351.-429403.1.supahstah@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Super Star Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk the elk lodge? as in the elk lodge near the light rail station? that is the weirdest location! my friend had her honeymoon there a few years ago. well, weird locations often make for the best times k,bye. =) On Tue, 25 May 1999 16:39:03 EDT DjShUbErT@aol.com writes: >heres the deal we landed a room at Poison Ivy Fri night from 9pm-3am >in San >Jose at the Elk Lodge info: 408 301 3914 >Dub'L Vision Dj's >Shubert >Dizolve >Sly >Oddeci >Erik or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 07:39:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5232 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 07:39:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 5223 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 07:39:55 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 07:39:55 -0000 Received: from Sera13@aol.com (14376) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHFBa02573 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 03:39:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Sera13@aol.com Message-ID: <41f21911.247cff1a@aol.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 03:39:06 EDT Subject: One Amazing Raver!!!! Come on I dare you to read me! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In response to the majority of the posts I have read over the past couple of days: <<>>> "Strange is our situation here on earth. Each of us comes for a short visit, not knowing why, yet something seeming to divine a purpose. From the standpoint of daily life, however, there is one thing we do know; that man is here for the sake of other men...... for the countless unknown souls with whose fate we are connected by a bond of sympathy. Many times a day I realize how much my own outer and inner life is built upon the labors of my fellow men, both living and dead, and how earnestly I must exert myself in order to give in return as much as I have received and am still receiving." -Albert Einstein Cherries, Sera o/o o/o o/o o/o o/o o/o o/o o/o o/o o/o o/o o/o o/o o/o o/o o/o o/o o/o o/o o/o o/o From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 08:15:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17600 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 08:15:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 17591 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 08:15:09 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 08:15:09 -0000 Received: from MIB271@aol.com (7999) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vBQPa01068; Wed, 26 May 1999 04:14:05 -0400 (EDT) From: MIB271@aol.com Message-ID: <86208e2.247d074d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 04:14:05 EDT Subject: Re: Parties at 2nd & jax To: AdidasXE7@aol.com, Markis1012@aol.com, TonicBond@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Harmony Sucked??? Are you sure you were at the right party? i thought they did a great job on that party. But i guess everyone has there own taste...Much props to the crew though for the party Greg From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 08:53:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27196 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 08:53:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 27186 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 08:53:10 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 08:53:10 -0000 Received: from [209.75.52.210] (AM5-68-52-219.ixpres.com [209.75.52.219]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA73460 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 01:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 02:03:41 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: Re: A Call Out to All Promoters Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk okay, i'm probably way late in responding to this post but i'd like to anyways. (it's a bit lengthy so i'm giving you forewarning in case you don't want to deal w/ it.) =46irst of all, i want to commend the author of this post for being succinct and to the point. I liked the way you got your point across; you got straight to the heart of the matter. I'm sure we all agree that "raves" can be major moneymakers when planned out in that way. There are business heads everywhere looking to make the greatest profit from whatever they can, and the rave scene is not free from their grasp. Because of it's high "entertainment" quality, raves can be manipulated fully until they become this empty means to an end...and that's obviously why we see these parties w/out heart & soul being thrown and that lack the creativity that is spoken of. >there used to be a separation of the massive scene and the underground. Massives a long time ago used to be a rare rare thing, and small/medium-size parties were standard. MAssives were reserved for maybe things like special events or something like that which made them good to go to once in a while. Now it's the standard and i wonder if that's b/c there are just more partygoers or more promoters using the scene as a business venue? I dunno, maybe it's both? >all it takes is a little bit of money, a whole lot of love, and a >SHITLOAD of effort but >it's worth it. i think some of you old-schoolers >would agree. it can happen again. it's >up to us. let's do it! i'm going >to. It's my heart's dream to build a better future for the scene. We're responsible for taking it up and we taking it down don't you think? Why, when we're the ones who were present at it's inception and grew/are growing with it and helped it grow, WHY do we think we cannot affect or change the present situation? I think it can happen again too b/c really, what would my life be w/out this? It would not have the same meaning for me, it really wouldn't. I want to do it too, i am up for doing anything i can to affect the continuum; however, i must admit, i'm not sure exactly where it should start. How do you decide when change will take place...will it be the result of small changes here & there or major upheavals? And how do you get this factioned and not very organized "nation" of ours to actively participate? How do we unite and create solidarity among ourselves and recognize each other? Is this reaching too far beyond what is possible? I hope not b/c i'd like to think that this is the goal we are trying to move towards--but still, is it expecting too much? I'm sorry if I'm asking 20 questions here but I just think in terms of logistics of the thing and how we would consolidate...I think that we have not yet begun to understand our strength and power as a group; at least in terms of sheer numbers if nothing else. And that lack of realization keep us back as much as anything, i believe. I wonder what the magic key is that will come along and unlock this answer for us, what will bring us together and take us to that next level of society and being? Am i being too abstract here? I feel like I know that it's something that is quite a possibility...but how do we begin to forge it and try and retreat from all the commercialistic trend that surrounds it? Okay, i dunno if any of this makes sense at all...it does to me (obviously) but i hope i haven't done too poor a job in trying to get my thoughts across. My only excuse is that it's 2 AM and i'm a little out of it, but i still had to put my thoughts to paper, or keyboard, or whatever...y'know what i mean. hugs & love madhvi > > >lotsa love -i > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 13:33:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18518 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 13:33:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 18510 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 13:33:26 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 13:33:26 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.101] (congo-101.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.101]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26769; Wed, 26 May 1999 06:33:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 06:56:04 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Wed) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello...today's quote is... The unexpressed, then, is always of greater value than the expressed. ---Zona Gale ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 15:13:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10636 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 15:13:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 10628 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 15:13:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aspen.sc-intl.com) (207.218.171.40) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 15:13:22 -0000 Received: by ASPEN with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Wed, 26 May 1999 08:15:44 -0700 Message-ID: <756B30A53DCBD111BABC00A0C981D4638A4135@ASPEN> From: "Ball, Tera" To: 'Brandon Trumble' , Markis1012@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: Parties at 2nd & jax Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 08:15:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk all I have to say is Playhouse ruled! And it was at 2J. that was the best party I have ever been to there! -----Original Message----- From: Brandon Trumble [mailto:pacific_united_ravers@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 7:41 PM To: Markis1012@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Parties at 2nd & jax I sympathise with you totally I went to the new years Origin and it sucked, I like to dance also not jump up and down rubbing against sweaty bodys, stepping on peoples feet, and getting all dirty from the muddy floors. They really need to regulate the amount of preople they stuff in that death trap. BUT when its not stuffed to the cieling with people its really a cool venue. T&JF 2 year was there last weekend and there was plenty of room, the floor wasn't muddy and it wasn't even hot enough to break a tear of sweat. Oh yeah but the porto pottys sux too! I guess anything is better than newberrys though (gawd that place sucked... dont make me elaborate on that place i will go off!)! but the best place to throw a party will always be maritime hall even though they cant throw partys there anymore. =*( (im sad) Brandon "KyD" --- Markis1012@aol.com wrote: > O.K. Whatever tickles your fancy guys. I'm just > sayin! I wouldn't spend 20 to > 25 bucks to be packed inside a room beyond maximum > capacity to the point to > where you can't dance or even breath for that > matter. I go to parties to > dance and it's a little hard to do that if there is > a human body within 1 > millimeter away from you at all times. Or to get my > pre-sale ticket and get > turned away at the door. That would be so sad:( !! > > But all in all, If you do end up going to > Origin or any party at 2nd > and jax for that matter. Just be safe. It really > isn't cool to be around THAT > many DAmn people at once. I mean > DAMN..............PRomoters are WAY greedy > for doing that to people. E-nuff is E-nuff. > > markis(junglejunkie) > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 16:13:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20403 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 16:12:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 20299 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 16:12:14 -0000 Received: from web805.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 16:12:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19990526161457.999.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web805.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:14:57 PDT Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:14:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: It's OK to leave To: K Gray , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >But wait, I have a suggestion that is even more >radical: If you aren't >having a good time: leave the party. I am definitely a party leaver simply because I dont like to be one of the people laying on the ground. When the yawns start takin over and I find myself too tired to dance, and too tired to talk I just go to the car and sleep, (btw: KNOW where the car is parked if you leave early and are waiting for friends, I wandered around for an hour after Harmony in Oakland trying to find the car, with no shoes on, wasnt fun) TOO BAD it took me $60 to figure out that i dont want to support F8 parties anymore because EVERY single party of theirs I went to (besides Willets) I left within 2 hours because I couldnt breathe, move, drink water, dance. And the fan incident i had last time with the crew wasnt fun, and blah blah blah, but I wont support those parties anymore, what a revelation. However, I seen M&M at a $5 ug party where I was one of the last 15 people left in the party while they were spinning and I didnt leave because I was in a great location, where I could breathe and dance, so its nothing against them. Just remember the parties you are leaving, remember who is throwing them and how they are benefitting from the $20 that you dished out but did not receive its worth. Dont support them, youll be happier that way! Remember the parties that are handing out bottles of water for free, making sure that guy dancing by the speaker doesnt pass out, and only charging 5 or 10$ to get in. I am so thankful I have evolved and realize these things now, after one complete year of going to parties, its sooooo funny to think back on myself a year a go, ok, im gonna start laughing my ass off now. Support your favorite crews, dont support the ones you dont believe are in this community for the right reasons, its a bit of a start. Thank You Epiphany, Viberation, Gateway, Cloud Factory, Harmony, Fnf, all those crews that I believe in, and serve purpose in this community. YOU RULE. Love, Jessica --- K Gray wrote: > Nick advises: > > > >QUIT SUPPORTING LAME PARTIES > > > >Time and time again people are attending parties > paying $15-20 and > >getting screwed. If a promoter throws a lame > party. DON'T SUPPORT > >THEM ANYMORE. > > But wait, I have a suggestion that is even more > radical: If you aren't > having a good time: leave the party. That's right. > You don't have to stay. > Sure, they already have your money, but sometimes > your peace of mind and > happiness is more important. You may be able to > dance it off when the music > is good, but sometimes, you just can't recover your > groove. > > I'm not talking about the parties that haven't > filled up yet or where the > DJs haven't gotten into their groove yet. > > I'm thinking that it is time to go home when you are > physically > uncomfortable because it is too hot and too crowded. > > When the toilets are overflowing and you have to go. > > When you realize there are no toilets. > > When you are spiritually saddened by people being > rude to you. > > When you are morally uncomfortable stepping over > piles of e-tarded kids. > Boris, for example, walked out of a party two weeks > ago when a 10-yr-old > girl (maybe a short 12-yr-old) asked him for drugs. > > When you are tired and fed up. > > When somebody touches you without your permission. > > When someone throws up on your backpack. > > When you look around and don't see any friendly > faces - only drugged-up > zombies sucking the hell out of a Blo-Pop. > > When you realize that the night is only creating bad > memories. > > Go on, LEAVE. Don't look back. Try again. > > In search of the vibe, don't settle for less. > > K > > > === Change is constant, its the only reliable thing in life. ~buglady From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 16:17:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24484 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 16:17:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 24467 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 16:17:01 -0000 Received: from f71.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.157) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 16:17:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 13716 invoked by uid 0); 26 May 1999 16:16:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19990526161631.13715.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 199.94.180.3 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:16:30 PDT X-Originating-IP: [199.94.180.3] From: "Rum TumTugger" To: Fiercefigs@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: My whoppin 10 cents so there!! Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:16:30 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Personal opinion: 18+ is stupid and somewhat sad. I joined the scene at 17, many people younger, and I know that any scene that preaches what we preach but practices discrimination on basis of age would receive only my scorn and derision. Also: Do you think cops will like us any more if we were 18+? Why? We'd still be evil young people staying up too late, dancing to music that they don't understand, and doing evil substances. Face it, minors are icing on the cake. As far as people taking part in the scene: Time and time again I've asked how I can get involved. I'm not after it for a free ticket, or to schmooze some DJ I really like, I'm after it cause I'd be useful cause I'm strong and big and have technical theatre training, and because I love the scene and want to do what I can to help it stay alive. If there are promoters that need help (i.e. NOT homebase promoters) I'm more than happy...but how do I do it? I've asked, and get mainly kind rebuffs. No one seems to want outside help anymore. So what do we do? The promoters protect themselves against people who are in it to get a free ride or to meet "important" people in the scene, a totally understandable position. The kids out there like myself would love to help out, but we're not really wanted without a personal recomendation from someone already "within." I don't know what the solution is. I would say trust on the part of the promoters, but I know that's naive and idealistic. But obviously something should be done so that we can get back what you're looking for, that personal connection to the scene. Any thoughts? "Don't compromise yourself, you're all you've got." -Janis Joplin Sharpe _ _ / \ ____ / \ / / \ \ \ / \ / \| /\ /\ |/ ---| V |--- /| \ | / |\ / \ \/\/ / \ \__________/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 16:19:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26661 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 16:19:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 26643 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 16:19:55 -0000 Received: from jeter.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 16:19:55 -0000 Received: from godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.102.8]) by jeter.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id MAA18030; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:10:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA20826; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:10:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:10:37 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu To: Vegas Rick cc: leslie.ayres@excite.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: whoa there mr las vegas In-Reply-To: <001b01bea705$85049e20$104b65d1@t2000> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yes, there are fuckups, but there are just as many fuckups that are adults. To say that adults always rave responsibly is foolish. the argument being made is not that adults are more responsible than teenagers, it's that LEGALLY teenagers are not responsible for themselves, their parents are. and because in these times we have to be VERY CAREFUL about making sure parties are legal because there is so much opposition, it is crucial to keep legal issues out of the scenario. true our scene was not founded on legal, permitted parties, but times change and so must we, and in order for this scene to keep thriving we must make sure that we are not seen in such a negative light by the police, the press, and the public, and their main concern is the UNDERAGE party goes who are literally fucking up their lives forever, usually without parental consent. i would be sad to see all the vibrant youth of our scene disapper, because as much as i may bitch sometimes, they do add a lot. they are the ones who bring so much energy to parties, so much enthusiasm, and they are the people i look to when i start losing those qualities. but if their participation in our events means the "death" of our scene, which i fear it may, then the best way to ensure it's survival is to make raves 18+. i would like to see some effort into making parties safer (like uncle noah suggested) and more educating of rave ettiquite, but if that doesn't work, then i think we have no choice. it will suck for those who are under 18, but maybe all ages events could still happen if they weren't going all night and were in safer locations. these are the factors that "we" can control, the rest is up to the parents to raise educated and healthy children who will make the "right" decisions when it comes to partying. much love, amber "the queen of run-on sentences" mcquown --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 16:23:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 857 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 16:23:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 701 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 16:23:06 -0000 Received: from web802.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.62) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 16:23:06 -0000 Message-ID: <19990526162234.13661.rocketmail@web802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web802.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:22:34 PDT Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:22:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: BSP: PHUNCKTION 2NITE (5/25)--Noel, Juju, MCDuh & guest DJ Siren To: PHUNKN3@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk JUNE guests:~~~~~~~~~~~~~R.A.W. / L.A..-------------------- 1st JASON MOUSE------------------- 8thSINE / Platinum agent / PHILLY--- 15th MACHETE / L.A.------------------ 22ndABSTRACT---------------------- 29th ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Who here is as stoked as I am???? UMmmmm HELLO. These folks will provide well for the Top, its an awesome little place, and um June seems to be going off. Yeahhhhh. Jessica --- PHUNKN3@aol.com wrote: > 2NITE!!!!!!.......... > > > Tuesday, May 24th > > > **PHUNCKTION** > DRUM N > BASS IN MOTION > w/ residents: > Noel. Juju & DUH mc > > > special guest > SIREN > / Bassment > > > this all goes down @ > THE TOP every tues. > 424 HAIGHT @ > WEBSTER > 10pm-2am / > 21+ / 3 bones > > info/mailing list: > 415.789.8000 x1147 > > JUNE guests: > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > R.A.W. / L.A..-------------------- 1st > JASON MOUSE------------------- 8th > SINE / Platinum agent / PHILLY--- 15th > MACHETE / L.A.------------------ 22nd > ABSTRACT---------------------- 29th > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > Noel > PHUNCKATECK COMMUNICATIONS > dj_noel_sf@hotmail.com > htp://www.sfdb.com > === Change is constant, its the only reliable thing in life. ~buglady From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 16:24:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2026 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 16:24:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 2017 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 16:24:02 -0000 Received: from jmail.co.jp (HELO calvin.iac.co.jp) (209.85.120.230) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 16:24:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 10462 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 16:24:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO jmail.co.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 May 1999 16:24:13 -0000 From: "ProtoTypical Chris" Reply-to: prototype@raveaddict.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:24:13 GST -1080 Subject: Re: and the chasm widens???? Message-id: <374c202d.28db.0@jmail.co.jp> X-User-Info: 171.133.216.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >OK, I wasn't even going to reply to any of the age posts, but I am SOOOOO >incredibly frustrated right now. Hey I've got an idea-how 'bout we put a 18+ >limit on buying records? How 'bout I get a ticket every time I dance in >public because I'm not 18?? *grr* I don't even know how to express how I am >feeling right now. I guess complete frustration is the only word that comes >to mind. We're not trying to take away the music that you love. And we're not necessarily discussing mental or emotional responsibility. What we're boiling it down to is LEGAL responsibility, and the bad publicity the scene gets when its less desireable aspects are associated with minors. Basically, the bottom line is that no one 18 and up is going to have their parents trying to track them down, or need to have their mommy called when they take more than they can handle. Unfortunately, we can't have psychologists analyzing every minor to decide who is responsible enough and who is not. There's plenty of people under 21 who think they're mature enough to drink, but the fact is that we can't tell which ones really are. I can understand how you feel. Whenever I pick up rave flyers, I always have to throw half of them out, because they're for 21+ clubs, and that pisses me off, because I see all the tight DJs they've got, and I don't even drink! Why shouldn't I be let in? Why can't they just card at the bar? These are just things we have to live with and wait for. Basically, we have to have some kind of indicator of maturity and responsibility, and the age of legal responsibility seems the most logical. -=ProtoTypical Chris=- >><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><><><><><><><><><><> Like my COOL email address? Get one like it FREE at http://www.MUSICOSM.com ! Visit today! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 16:48:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15830 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 16:48:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 15791 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 16:48:29 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 16:48:29 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA10611; Wed, 26 May 1999 11:47:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from unknown-73-193-56.nextel.com(168.73.193.56) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma010557; Wed May 26 11:47:05 1999 Message-ID: <001001bea797$635d1ee0$38c149a8@nextel.com> From: "Happy Kids" To: , "Madhvi Dalal" References: Subject: Re: A Call Out to All Promoters Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:46:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk lotta good questions here, friend. the one question that pops out to me is, "how can we put these changes in motion?" i've never been much of a mover and shaker, only a closet musician that comes out to play every so often. BUT, this i can say: an upheaval is not the answer. we can't neutralize the bad parts of the scene - only separate them and in time (short time) they will be weeded out. the way to bring it back to what it was is to start over. throw very small, quality, kick-ass parties that really whack people upside the head. it will make them realize the potential of the scene and strive to only participate in events of that magnitude. all it takes is a few events, a few promoters, a handful of ravers to realize that good parties can and should happen -> then they WILL happen. the more we talk about it, the more people might get it inside their heads. but the proof is in the pudding... ...throw some good parties people! note: i'm not claiming that there haven't been any good parties in the true underground spirit lately. i know there have been. just not enough - it used to be the standard. we can turn it around... lotsa love -i ----- Original Message ----- From: Madhvi Dalal To: Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 2:03 AM Subject: Re: A Call Out to All Promoters okay, i'm probably way late in responding to this post but i'd like to anyways. (it's a bit lengthy so i'm giving you forewarning in case you don't want to deal w/ it.) First of all, i want to commend the author of this post for being succinct and to the point. I liked the way you got your point across; you got straight to the heart of the matter. I'm sure we all agree that "raves" can be major moneymakers when planned out in that way. There are business heads everywhere looking to make the greatest profit from whatever they can, and the rave scene is not free from their grasp. Because of it's high "entertainment" quality, raves can be manipulated fully until they become this empty means to an end...and that's obviously why we see these parties w/out heart & soul being thrown and that lack the creativity that is spoken of. >there used to be a separation of the massive scene and the underground. Massives a long time ago used to be a rare rare thing, and small/medium-size parties were standard. MAssives were reserved for maybe things like special events or something like that which made them good to go to once in a while. Now it's the standard and i wonder if that's b/c there are just more partygoers or more promoters using the scene as a business venue? I dunno, maybe it's both? >all it takes is a little bit of money, a whole lot of love, and a >SHITLOAD of effort but >it's worth it. i think some of you old-schoolers >would agree. it can happen again. it's >up to us. let's do it! i'm going >to. It's my heart's dream to build a better future for the scene. We're responsible for taking it up and we taking it down don't you think? Why, when we're the ones who were present at it's inception and grew/are growing with it and helped it grow, WHY do we think we cannot affect or change the present situation? I think it can happen again too b/c really, what would my life be w/out this? It would not have the same meaning for me, it really wouldn't. I want to do it too, i am up for doing anything i can to affect the continuum; however, i must admit, i'm not sure exactly where it should start. How do you decide when change will take place...will it be the result of small changes here & there or major upheavals? And how do you get this factioned and not very organized "nation" of ours to actively participate? How do we unite and create solidarity among ourselves and recognize each other? Is this reaching too far beyond what is possible? I hope not b/c i'd like to think that this is the goal we are trying to move towards--but still, is it expecting too much? I'm sorry if I'm asking 20 questions here but I just think in terms of logistics of the thing and how we would consolidate...I think that we have not yet begun to understand our strength and power as a group; at least in terms of sheer numbers if nothing else. And that lack of realization keep us back as much as anything, i believe. I wonder what the magic key is that will come along and unlock this answer for us, what will bring us together and take us to that next level of society and being? Am i being too abstract here? I feel like I know that it's something that is quite a possibility...but how do we begin to forge it and try and retreat from all the commercialistic trend that surrounds it? Okay, i dunno if any of this makes sense at all...it does to me (obviously) but i hope i haven't done too poor a job in trying to get my thoughts across. My only excuse is that it's 2 AM and i'm a little out of it, but i still had to put my thoughts to paper, or keyboard, or whatever...y'know what i mean. hugs & love madhvi > > >lotsa love -i > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 17:06:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29652 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 17:06:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 29642 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 17:06:36 -0000 Received: from heinlein.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 17:06:36 -0000 Received: from godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.102.8]) by heinlein.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) with ESMTP id NAA18560; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:02:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id NAA23987; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:02:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:02:04 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: solutions: please read Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk solutions to our problems (and maybe then parties won't have to be 18+): ***************************************************************** CALL TO PROMOTERS! ***************************************************************** 1) better security and promoters more willing to crack down on drug dealers at parties 2) say on voicemail "drug dealing is not wanted here. if you are seen counting your money anywhere that is not at the water bar you will be kicked out for suspicion of dealing/buying. if you are caught dealing/buying you will be kicked out and legal action will be taken against you." 3) make/use safer locations: have food and FREE water available, REAL bathrooms 4) promoters give blurbs on party ettiquite on flyers and voicemail (i.e. "please don't steal from your fellow ravers, respect and treat them as you want to be treated"; "love the music and the vibe. not the drugs." "please don't be stupid enough to mix drugs." "if you must use, don't take too much or too often, and know what you are getting into: respect your bodies because they are the only ones we have." 5) promote to the crowd YOU want at parties, not just any old schmo. stop promoting at schools and on the radio. i know most of my solutions are based on discouraging drug presense, but drugs are such a big part of our scene now that poeple associate them so much with parties that they can't have any fun unless they are on something. measures can be taken to EDUCATE poeple about how to be repsonible. i see the biggest problem lying in that kids see raves as a safe place to do drugs. make that place unsafe, and we will cut down on those problems, and the pople who come just to do drugs will leave. we don't want them here anyways. maybe we can make events ok for all ages, and then legal issues won't be such a problem. of course we can't control the miss suzies from sneaking out of their houses against their parents will, but we can educate poeple so that they don't think they can get away with the shit they can now. i may seem like a hyprocrite here, as i have said in earlier posts "just make events 18+!" but i am trying to see the issue from everyone's viewpoint. much love, amber --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 17:37:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12119 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 17:37:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 12107 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 17:37:45 -0000 Received: from baal.visi.com (HELO mail.visi.com) (209.98.98.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 17:37:45 -0000 Received: from isis.visi.com (diogenes@isis.visi.com [209.98.98.8]) by mail.visi.com (8.8.8/8.7.5) with ESMTP id MAA17199 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:37:43 -0500 (CDT) Posted-Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:37:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from diogenes@localhost) by isis.visi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA08271 for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:37:43 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:37:43 -0500 From: Alex To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Parties at 2nd & jax Message-ID: <19990526123743.F26813@isis.visi.com> References: <86208e2.247d074d@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <86208e2.247d074d@aol.com>; from MIB271@aol.com on Wed, May 26, 1999 at 04:14:05AM -0400 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk no kidding.... harmony was a blast. enough said. On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 04:14:05AM -0400, MIB271@aol.com wrote: > Harmony Sucked??? Are you sure you were at the right party? i thought they > did a great job on that party. But i guess everyone has there own > taste...Much props to the crew though for the party > Greg From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 17:50:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18999 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 17:50:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 18959 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 17:50:43 -0000 Received: from ns2.divi.com (HELO kms.divi.com) (199.97.190.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 17:50:43 -0000 Received: from rmarm.divi.com by kms.divi.com (8.8.8/DiviCom-KMS) id KAA14099; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:50:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990526175015.006b8864@kms> X-Sender: isaacl@kms X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:50:15 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Isaac Labugen Subject: A CALL OUT TO ALL PROMOTERS Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, it appears there is allot of discussion these day's regarding the age of party go'ers and the many substances there are to consume. I never realized what a problem this would become or how big of a problem it will turn out to be. However there is something to be said from my own experiences hosting underground events and assisting with many other larger sized events, and that is that I have noticed many young teenagers weekend and week out consistently drug'ed up out of there minds. I mean it's not even discreet or hidden, these kids look F*cked up, walk around acting F*cked up, ask you if your F*ucked up, it's pretty plain and simple. I've walked in certain events and there are like 15 kids trying to sell me drugs I haven't even heard of. Not to mention the occasional 10 or 12 year old that I see from time to time (some sister's brother, cousin , or friend, stay home). I do not understand the logic(k) that people use when contemplating how old someone should be to stay out till 6 + am. I wish it was all good, and things could be worked out. Unfortunately, when you realize the bottom line, that kids getting f'd up beyond control often ruin's a party for everyone. Yes, people over 18 may be on a controlled substances as well, yet it is there responsibility to make wise decisions for them selves that only they can be held accountable for. Then there's the issue that persons under the age of 18 often have parents who are looking for them, which creates a huge problem for the promoter and event staff, not to mention liability. I agree with Ian, it's definitely time for some positive change. Jeremy's point regarding age and how people who are now successful in our scene started at a young age has it's merits, however there are so many bad examples to counter the good examples that most of the good gets lost and over looked. I believe it's time to focus on our future and take pro-active measures to ensure our survival. I hope many who participated in this conversation will reflect the ideas and beliefs in there next events. peace & love, isaac:) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 17:56:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23895 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 17:56:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 23580 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 17:56:27 -0000 Received: from www.bass-station.com (HELO bass-station.com) (206.111.131.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 17:56:27 -0000 Received: from inteva26 (206.111.131.80) by bass-station.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.1); Wed, 26 May 1999 10:50:47 -0700 Message-ID: <00cb01bea7a1$203574a0$6a81a8c0@inteva26.topica.com> From: "greg" To: "sfraves" Subject: test ignore Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:56:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C8_01BEA766.73ABE320" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C8_01BEA766.73ABE320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable test-delete this message ------=_NextPart_000_00C8_01BEA766.73ABE320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_00C8_01BEA766.73ABE320-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 17:59:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26882 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 17:59:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 26873 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 17:59:50 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 17:59:50 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (14397) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJBDa06834 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:58:51 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:58:51 EDT Subject: Re: test ignore To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I need to test too. I dont see my posts showing up. Anyone getting my posts? Not that it matters, I dont have anything positive or constructive to say. :) Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 18:12:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8198 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 18:12:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 8048 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 18:11:58 -0000 Received: from www.bass-station.com (HELO bass-station.com) (206.111.131.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 18:11:58 -0000 Received: from inteva26 (206.111.131.80) by bass-station.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.1); Wed, 26 May 1999 11:06:18 -0700 Message-ID: <00e801bea7a3$4b7acf00$6a81a8c0@inteva26.topica.com> From: "greg" To: "sfraves" Subject: test again Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 11:11:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E5_01BEA768.8D5D6C60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E5_01BEA768.8D5D6C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable no more ------=_NextPart_000_00E5_01BEA768.8D5D6C60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_00E5_01BEA768.8D5D6C60-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 18:12:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8486 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 18:12:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 8347 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 18:12:06 -0000 Received: from www.bass-station.com (HELO bass-station.com) (206.111.131.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 18:12:06 -0000 Received: from inteva26 (206.111.131.80) by bass-station.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.1); Wed, 26 May 1999 11:06:27 -0700 Message-ID: <00e901bea7a3$50d9a020$6a81a8c0@inteva26.topica.com> From: "greg" To: "sfraves" Subject: test again Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 11:11:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E5_01BEA768.8D5D6C60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E5_01BEA768.8D5D6C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable no more ------=_NextPart_000_00E5_01BEA768.8D5D6C60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0079_01BEA76E.B32F1140-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 18:58:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16373 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 18:58:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 16180 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 18:58:05 -0000 Received: from mta2.snfc21.pbi.net (206.13.28.123) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 18:58:05 -0000 Received: from pacbell.net (ppp-207-214-211-248.sntc01.pacbell.net [207.214.211.248]) by mta2.snfc21.pbi.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with ESMTP id LAA18792 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 11:56:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <374C441F.678E4F46@pacbell.net> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 11:57:35 -0700 From: Jonathan Alexander Cordero X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Subject: funny things with 106.5 KEZR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is the only radio station I get through my home built tuner (reciever actually) that runs my computer sounds and while the DJ was talking guess who was in the background. Roni Size. How funny is that. I mean I know this infatuation with playing various types of background techno is popular right now, but it makes me laugh when I turn up the radio, not for the regular fair, but for the background beats, what a riot. Same thing goes with Sports Center on ESPN. More and more I notice the actual artists in the background and get carried away with it. Imagine that. Sports highlights AND crazy beats, I think I am getting overstimulated. late Jonathan C From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 19:04:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22383 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 19:04:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 22373 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 19:04:12 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 19:04:12 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA01064 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:03:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca38-10.ix.netcom.com(209.110.233.74) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma000966; Wed May 26 14:02:52 1999 Message-Id: <4.1.19990526115352.00cacb20@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: ascend@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:06:51 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Greg Sandler Subject: DiscoVery Tonight!!! (bsp) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone!!! Just wanted to let everyone know about tonight's Discovery party! It is going to be an infamous Santa Rosa love fest!!! (I can't wait!) Harmonics Records presents Discovery Featuring Dj LI (from Harmony, makes his first appearence in to the Santa Rosa party scene) With Santa Rosa hometown heros Greg Sandler - Logik - Gianni - URN - MAC - J-BOT - Ryan Wilber - Sean Norton 18+ and 21 to drink $5 b4 10:30 - $7 after Party starts @ 9pm and goes til 4am 120 Fifth St Santa Rosa CA Take 101 north exit downtown Santa Rosa take a left at the bottom of that exit this is 3rd street Go up a couple of lights and turn right on Wilson then turn right on Fifth St your there!!! Hope to see some of you there tonight! If you havn't come up here for one of our Discovery parties yet, you are truly missing out on the most fun that you could ever have on a Wednesday night!!! You should check it out!!! Also, the Wednesday Night Market starts tonight. There will be 1000's of people parting in the streets tonight in Downtown Santa Rosa. It should be a lot of fun! Peace and love, Greg= ) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 19:07:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25037 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 19:07:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 25027 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 19:07:56 -0000 Received: from kzsu.stanford.edu (36.118.0.90) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 19:07:56 -0000 Received: from kzsu.Stanford.EDU (KZSU.Stanford.EDU [36.118.0.90]) by kzsu.Stanford.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA09094; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:07:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "J.C." To: william godoy cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Millennium In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 25 May 1999, william godoy wrote: > idea of good time. There is no meaning of truth in it. It's just silly > debauchery. Wait. There's something wrong with debauchery??? > > chilliam > > -- "An Epiphany of Sound" - 90.1 FM Tuesdays from 9PM-Mid Pacific. (Also on the web at http://realaudio.stanford.edu/). Playlists and humor list archives at http://www-kzsu.stanford.edu/~dougm "Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of KZSU Radio or Stanford University." (or words to that effect.) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 19:36:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15076 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 19:36:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 14988 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 19:35:47 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 19:35:47 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA05396 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:33:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca38-10.ix.netcom.com(209.110.233.74) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma004765; Wed May 26 14:26:11 1999 Message-Id: <4.1.19990526120654.00c818a0@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: ascend@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:30:09 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Greg Sandler Subject: Harmony's SOL Festival = 18+ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone, Due to the current thread about this issue, I decided that I should voice my input... The Harmony Crew has been talking about making some of our parties 18+. We have been a little reluctant for various reasons. The biggest reason is that I don't think all minors are bad for the dance culture. In fact I really think that minors add a lot to this ever changing and growing culture. I look back into my past and notice that the entire original Harmony Crew started raving when we were only 16 years old. We have (at least in most people's opinion) added a great deal of positive energy into the dance culture... even when we were at our young age. Had all of the parties back in '92 and '93 been 18+ I probably would not have gotten into raving like I did. Who knows what the outcome of that would have been... But times are changing. Now more than ever, minors as a whole are having a large negative effect on the dance culture. Reasons like (1) their momies are coming and ruining the fun for everyone else (because the minor doesn't understand that when you're a kid it is not cool to disobey your parents and sneak out of the house to go and party), or they are not informed about the dangers that are related to drug use (and decide that they can take on anything and then end up in the hospital), or they are just imature and cause a lot of undue drama that nobody needs... These are just some of the reasons that we have decided to take the SOL Festival to the 18+ age group. So here's the deal... Harmony loves and respects people of all age groups. We are not being discriminatory at all. We are simply trying to ensure the future for if not the entire rave scene, at least our Harmony Parties. It is illegal for most venues to have minor dancing all night, therefore at those venues we will not make any exceptions, because if one minor has a problem then the entire party will get shut down. I know that a lot of the minors on this list might be saying that this is f@#ked, but think of it this way... We are trying to make sure that there is even a dance culture for you to come into when you turn 18. Sorry that this post is kinda blunt, but I have a lot of work to do, so I can't really go too deep with this... But I want everyone to know that I don't mean any disrespect with this at all... Love to everyone, Greg= ) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 19:53:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26699 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 19:53:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 26678 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 19:53:11 -0000 Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.119) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 19:53:11 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom9.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id MAA13747; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:52:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:52:55 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: just a thing... To: E-Bumpers By the Bay Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk it's "a lot" not "alot" or "allot" or "alott" or "allott" "a lot" sorry, that's one of my pet peeves. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 20:10:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14216 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 20:09:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 14204 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 20:09:57 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 20:09:57 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com (582) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vYWEa02589 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:08:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: <43f141e6.247daebd@aol.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:08:29 EDT Subject: Re: just a thing... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/26/99 12:53:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, unclenoa@netcom.com writes: << it's "a lot" not "alot" or "allot" or "alott" or "allott" "a lot" >> not "allrrot"? maybe "aloitt"? hmmm.... I dont thinks it's spelled "a lot". that doesn't seem right. "el rato"? "laoota"? no, probably "alolqweeewggetrytsf"? that doesnt seem right. oh, is it "la vida loca"? "et fone home"? no. fuck. yeah, it's defintaly "a lot". I agree. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 20:40:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10115 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 20:40:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 10097 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 20:40:10 -0000 Received: from www.bass-station.com (HELO bass-station.com) (206.111.131.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 20:40:10 -0000 Received: from inteva26 (206.111.131.80) by bass-station.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.1); Wed, 26 May 1999 13:34:30 -0700 Message-ID: <015e01bea7b7$ffc97880$6a81a8c0@inteva26.topica.com> From: "greg" To: "sfraves" , "fnf" Subject: [bsp]RENEGADE--FRIDAY NIGHT!! Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:40:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk For those of us not going to OODE this weekend, who would like to spend the entire weekend in a state of dance-induced bliss, Greg and Re-ach present: Friday night, May 28th Slap Me a return to the underbelly of the urban utopia. this is a true undergroud held on a piece of land in great upheaval, so bring everything you need for a riotous urban adventure: blankets, warm clothes, food and water to share, candles, toys, glass, eachother. We'll be getting started around midnight in a centrally located, easy to get to east bay location. Please follow the instructions on the VM so we can keep the party low profile and bust free. We'll probably be using cars to create a makeshift sound wall, so help us out, and in return you'll be parked closer to the event. The voice mail # for the event is 510-437-5250 Email greg@bass-station.com if you'd like to help out. We still need a genny- I'll pay for gas! your DJ's: [in no particular order] Greg [FnF] Re-ach [st@ic, A.R.M., FnF] Ethan [FnF] Miranda [Vulcan Studios] Ronan [Sweet, St. John's Divine Rhythm Society] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 20:45:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15523 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 20:45:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 15502 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 20:45:10 -0000 Received: from ns.ultimanet.com (HELO relay.ultimanet.com) (205.179.129.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 20:45:10 -0000 Received: from [205.179.129.9] (sprout.ultimanet.com [205.179.129.9]) by relay.ultimanet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02080; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:43:50 -0700 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:48:15 -0700 To: unclenoah From: terry estioko Subject: Re: just a thing... Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk No, it's "alotta fagina", yeah baby! -t >it's "a lot" > >not "alot" or "allot" or "alott" or "allott" > >"a lot" > >sorry, that's one of my pet peeves. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >- >"Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or >death." - Casey Brackley >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now >info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions 714.558.7626 >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@viberation.com http://www.viberation.com/terry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 20:47:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18098 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 20:47:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 18050 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 20:47:33 -0000 Received: from eclipse.keyscape.net (HELO keyscape.net) (root@199.233.198.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 20:47:33 -0000 Received: from moe (modem118.offcampus.calpoly.edu [129.65.100.118]) by keyscape.net (8.8.8/Keyscape.1) with SMTP id NAA29744 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:47:27 -0700 Message-ID: <001b01bea7b8$a599e560$76644181@moe.calpoly.edu> From: "meeks" To: Subject: meeks back for round three Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:44:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I just wanna say whats up to people out there list mommy lara!!! i will most likely be lurking, (ive got my filters set up now..so im all about some mass deleting) plus most of what goes on here (all that spicey shit) im not too concerned with. In fact, im going to try my best to ignore the funk out of it. summer is coming up (already here for some of you lucky batches) and theres lots of good stuff in store, some of which will be coming from myself, or people close to me, WHICH YOU WILL HEAR ABOUT =) I am not a jungle-life spokesman, so dont expect that either ;) and finaly, in the deepest raspiest very rasta voice ive got: x amout all junglis! meeks From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 20:49:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19469 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 20:49:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 19438 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 20:49:36 -0000 Received: from zeus.digidesign.com (HELO digidesign.com) (199.182.65.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 20:49:36 -0000 Received: from earthlink.net ([152.165.137.67]) by digidesign.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA28115; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:49:00 -0700 Message-ID: <374C5DA6.E6753299@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:46:30 -0700 From: Chris Gill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: terry estioko CC: unclenoah , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: just a thing... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Oh behave! terry estioko wrote: > No, it's "alotta fagina", yeah baby! > > -t > > >it's "a lot" > > > >not "alot" or "allot" or "alott" or "allott" > > > >"a lot" > > > >sorry, that's one of my pet peeves. > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >- > >"Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or > >death." - Casey Brackley > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now > >info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions 714.558.7626 > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------ > terry estioko | terry@viberation.com > http://www.viberation.com/terry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 21:01:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1622 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 21:01:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 1445 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 21:01:23 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 21:01:23 -0000 Received: from TonicBond@aol.com (14381) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vTGAa15563; Wed, 26 May 1999 17:00:33 -0400 (EDT) From: TonicBond@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 17:00:30 EDT Subject: Re: re: 18+ pawties and 17- kids To: OXnymphXO@aol.com, OoNOTlKo0@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/25/99 9:24:17 PM, OXnymphXO@aol.com writes: << hey no way!!! i was just about to invite all the kids on here to a 17- party i'm gonna throw when i read ur post!!!! LOL!! but yeah, i'm sooo down to have a party w/o a buncha snooty adults there!!! j/k guys...well partially, i'm up for organizing this though, and i know some friends who spin who are under 18 too. god, wouldnt this be fun??? Alida : ) >> MORE POWER TO YA... IF YOU CAN DO IT THEN GO FOR IT :) AME From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 21:12:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13768 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 21:12:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 13387 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 21:12:27 -0000 Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (209.185.123.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 21:12:27 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by hotbot.com; Wed May 26 14:11:47 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 14:11:47 -0700 From: "FREQ MAGNET" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: kinda rr: is anyone going to great america friday? X-Sender-Ip: 130.212.37.227 Organization: HotBot Mail (http://mail.hotbot.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk it's gay & lesbian day! lol. ;) supposedly there's a *dance party* that goes from 12am-3am...this sorta scares me--anyone know what kinda music they're playing? or how i'm sposed to dress? hmm... i got my ticket and a date already, so i'm set, but uh... i dunno. i've never been to an all-gay theme park before. lol. i just hope they don't only play that gay-boi house shit... like that stoopid cher song that i hear blasting out of @ least nine stores on castro when i walk by @ night. dammit. ;)~ maybe they'll read my mind and bump jungle... love & rage, catrina p.s. i hope you peeps have fun @ metropolis--the ones who decide that it's worth losing yourself in a crowd of ghetto hip-hoppahs to see HIERO and PHARCYDE...and rinse & flux, etc... have a mighty kickin weekend guys! i'll be in reno watching my mom say her *i do*-s... :\ HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 21:15:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16909 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 21:15:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 16895 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 21:15:04 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 21:15:04 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA23933 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:14:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca1-190.ix.netcom.com(209.109.232.190) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma023862; Wed May 26 16:14:09 1999 Message-ID: <374C738C.1554@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 14:20:00 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: [Fwd: summarizing 18-up] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk None of this(the argument of 18+ parties) would be an issue if promoters would get permits. Unless the venue only issued permits for 18+/21+ etc. And of course, this is only pertaining to what people have basically been mentioning in referance to COTS. The only logical reason that I can find a Crew not getting permits for a party is the simple factor of Money. The Crew is willing to throw a party that could possibly get broken up because they don't want to dish out the extra cash for a permit. I do understand that parties are expensive- sound/lighting/the venue/dj's and buying water or whatever else. But would that incident have even taken place if the Promoters had permits?? People are ragging on these little girls that phuked up their night of fun because they were under age and the girls moms had been lied too, but why don't you start questioning COTS?? I'm not trying to be a bitch but you need to look at all sides of the situation. I have alot of respect for COTS so don't take this as, I'm trying to put them down. Not only that, but how many of you that are all for 18+ parties knew that there were atleast 5 or 6 kids that promote/set up and worked the COTS party?? Not only COTS but also ( flyering atleast) for The Gathering, Quest, ASR, and basically every FGE- So how can you put down kids that helped to bring such a great thing together?? And to bring up another example of the 18+ dealio not working, when I was almost 17 I was promoting for Culture, yes the 21+ at VSF, there are things called --Borrowing a friends ID-- A situation which I'm sure would occur if you started to card events. To finally bring this to conclusion. How many people have noticed that Gatherings/Basics( compared to about 3 years ago and I'm sure even before that), Harmony and Silver Pearl 'Quest' parties have doubled in size and have gone up in cost. I'm definatly not saying that any of these wonderful people are in it for the money, but I'm pretty damn sure that they're happy when they make all of their money back and a little extra(hehe...or however much) which, I'm sure will go forth to a future party. I'm sure alot of productions will have problems with achieving this if the all age factor isn't at hand. So thats my long ass view on this whole topic of discussion, shit talkers are welcome, I love to hear the negative sides to my beliefs. Peace Elizabeth leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > > excuse me for oversimplifying... but here's what i'm getting from the > posts... > > perspective #1 --- wah, wah, wah, you guys are mean, because i'm not 18 and > it's not fair if i can't party too. (note, many of these are sent from email > addresses that have direct raving and/or drug references, and contain > interesting interpretations of the spelling of english language words, sad > but true) > > perspective #2 -- if everyone can't come, then it's not raving, and besides > kids are so creative, it wouldn't be the same without them. (i agree... in > a perfect universe... unfortunately, i don't think many parents and/or > police depts will agree, and then.... no one parties) > > perspective #3 --- those kiddiots are all useless anyway, and we don't need > 'em. (fortunately, not much of that) > > perspective #4 -- (which is mine) ... much as i might miss the two or three > mature under-18s out there... frankly, i rave in order to be able to dance > ALLNIGHT without having ambulances pull up and the cops show up because > someone's mommy called. and if that means that parties need to be limited > to people who are *legally responsible* for themselves, then so be it. > > because raving is about the music and having a place to dance all night.... > and while in a perfect world we might solve this problem more easily without > creating b arriers to kiddies.... this is not a perfect world... > > and bottom line, maybe the adults need to look at how we have to think of > protecting our right to party, even if it means breaking a few young hearts > ... > > but remember kiddies.... if we can keep the scene alive this way, it will be > there when you're old enough.... otherwise, at the rate we're going, you'll > be waiting until you're 21 to go to clubs... that's three long years more. > > possible middle ground....how about... 18 up... unless your actual parent > delivers you to the party with a letter of release and instructions on what > to do for you in an emergency? (not sure if that's even legal in > permitted events) -- and the buddy system idea is interesting, but not > legally viable, there still would be liability, i think. > > i know this is harsh, but having someone's long-planned investment of time > and energy disappear at midnight because someone wasn't supposed to be there > is harsher. > > leslie > (and hey, did someone imply that i dress candy? i hope not! distinctive > costume, maybe, but i never wear plastic, only vintage sterling silver and > quality jewelry... though i do wear fat pants!) > > Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 21:34:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13840 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 21:34:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 13828 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 21:34:31 -0000 Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (206.253.129.185) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 21:34:31 -0000 Received: from tar-and-gravel ([206.25.144.218]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id RAA19972; Wed, 26 May 1999 17:33:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990526143156.042a1930@shell4.ba.best.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 14:35:10 -0700 To: "FREQ MAGNET" , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: ry-N Subject: Re: kinda rr: is anyone going to great america friday? Cc: oct1faith@aol.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 02:11 PM 5/26/99 , FREQ MAGNET wrote: >i've never been to an all-gay >theme park before. lol. i just hope they don't only play that gay-boi >house shit... like that stoopid cher song that i hear blasting out of @ >least nine stores on castro when i walk by @ night. dammit. ;)~ maybe >they'll read my mind and bump jungle... HAHAHA ... oh you have no idea how much good it does my heart to hear some good ol' fashioned fag house bashin' (no flames please .. im gay) blackstone ... note the cher comment? ryan ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 21:43:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22447 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 21:42:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 22105 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 21:42:38 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 21:42:38 -0000 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.9.3/8.8.4) id OAA10811; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:42:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199905262142.OAA10811@atari.saturn5.com> Subject: Re: [Fwd: summarizing 18-up] To: etraver@ix.netcom.com (Elizabeth Traver) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 14:42:34 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <374C738C.1554@ix.netcom.com> from "Elizabeth Traver" at May 26, 99 02:20:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > The only logical reason that I can find a Crew not getting permits for a > party is the simple factor of Money. The Crew is willing to throw a > party that could possibly get broken up because they don't want to dish > out the extra cash for a permit. Do you throw parties? Do you know what it takes to get a permit? This is a very unfair statement. But, hey, if you just want to go to 2nd-n-jack every weekend... or a 3,000 person massive. thats fine. But, high-vibe, unpermitted, 10$, 400 person parties in unique locations do happen successfully (and recently) in the bay area... and the promoters don't make a dime. It would be impossible to do this sort of thing with full permits. -troy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks "I just don't have the discipline to be a hippie" <- Homer J. Simpson From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 21:47:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28171 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 21:47:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 28139 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 21:47:11 -0000 Received: from jmail.co.jp (HELO calvin.iac.co.jp) (209.85.120.230) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 21:47:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 4006 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 21:47:26 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO jmail.co.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 May 1999 21:47:26 -0000 From: "ProtoTypical Chris" Reply-to: prototype@raveaddict.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 14:47:26 GST -1080 Subject: Re: F8: Trance Reviews Message-id: <374c6bee.fa4.0@jmail.co.jp> X-User-Info: 171.133.216.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >One sick record i picked up recently is by Dj Robyn. One side is called >"endless" the other side is called "Endorphine Express." its also tight, but >the other side is better. Very emotional songs. > >anyways, how many people on this list buy records? do the rest of you buy >mixtapes? cds? how do you all get a hold of the music? > >cool late, pistachio. I started collecting vinyl a couple months ago. I have about 25 records. I'm saving for some tables right now. As for track selections, Tinrib has hell of cool shit. "Deaf by Stereo" and "Let's Go!" are tight (on the same record), and the record with "No Women Allowed" and "New Improved Shit" kicks supreme ass. Another one called "Travel: Bulgarian Disc One" is the shit. United Ravers Records has some tight stuff. Oops, almost forgot one of my favorite labels. EDM is so fuckin' awesome. Look for "District of Power" by Cocooma, "Fortunes" by I don't know who, and "Plastic House" by Plastic Energy. Then there's always the Time Unlimited label, with Nostrum, among others. -=ProtoTypical Chris=- >><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><><><><><><><><><><> Like my COOL email address? Get one like it FREE at http://www.MUSICOSM.com ! Visit today! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 21:51:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2351 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 21:51:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 2343 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 21:51:04 -0000 Received: from mailgate.cadence.com (158.140.2.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 21:51:04 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.cadence.com (8.8.5/8.6.8) id OAA22776 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.Cadence.COM(158.140.128.33) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (mjr-v1.2) id xma927755461.022755; Wed, 26 May 99 14:51:01 -0700 Received: from urbanassault.org (d15814038120 [158.140.38.120]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02862 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <374C6CEA.E8D857E6@urbanassault.org> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 14:51:38 -0700 From: Siphon Reply-To: siphon@urbanassault.org Organization: Urban Assault X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: summarizing 18-up] References: <374C738C.1554@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This issue has nothing to do with permits. Permits state 18+ at an all night event - correct me if I'm wrong. So if you have a permit or not - it doesn't matter, kids under 18 aren't legally supposed to be out all night on any day of the week. Period. That's the law. Why is that hard to believe or understand??? This alone can get an event shut down. The adults aren't going to ruin the scene. The minors aren't going to ruin the scene. Its irresponsible behavior that will ruin the scene regardless of age. Unfortunately the majority of irresponsible behavior is coming from the minors. This is my experience for the past 12+ years. I'm 29 now but I was standing in the shoes of a minor not to long ago doing the exact same thing. Only change is that its a different time period. Different times ask for different solutions. At the time I was a minor there weren't as many problems as there are now with minors. So people can deny the facts or do something about it. This will be the last I say of this thread... Respects, _____________________ S i p h o n Urban Assault [99] info: 408.882.5064 http://www.urbanassault.org From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 22:02:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15086 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 22:02:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 15056 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 22:02:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aspen.sc-intl.com) (207.218.171.40) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 22:02:16 -0000 Received: by ASPEN with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:04:38 -0700 Message-ID: <756B30A53DCBD111BABC00A0C981D4638A4149@ASPEN> From: "Ball, Tera" To: "'SFRaves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: testing Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:04:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 1,2,1,2 this is just a test From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 22:03:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16004 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 22:03:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 15995 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 22:03:44 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 22:03:44 -0000 Received: from user (access-50-151.ixpres.com [209.75.50.151]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA81520; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:04:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990526145839.006c7984@mail.ixpres.com> X-Sender: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 14:58:39 -0700 To: "meeks" , From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: filters In-Reply-To: <001b01bea7b8$a599e560$76644181@moe.calpoly.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk (ive got my filters set up now..so im all >about some mass deleting) FILTERS ARE THE SHIT. muah madhvi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 22:06:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18381 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 22:06:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 18203 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 22:06:42 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 22:06:42 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA02505 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 17:06:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca1-190.ix.netcom.com(209.109.232.190) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma002457; Wed May 26 17:05:39 1999 Message-ID: <374C7FD6.5E99@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:12:30 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: summarizing 18-up]] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk First of all, as I stated at the beginning of that post, it was mainly referenced to the comments made towards the COTS party, which was not $10, but 17. > But, high-vibe, unpermitted, 10$, 400 person parties in unique locations do > happen successfully (and recently) in the bay area... and the promoters don't > make a dime. What about the spot that SF House Collective Used when Dub Tribe was here 2 years ago **about 2o minutes past the G.G Bridge **. This party was 3 dollars more, lasted all night. And holds about 500 people. Basics, with Terry Francis, on Hagenburger. Has one room, one very small outdoor area and holds about 400 people.**$20** Gathering, two years ago, in San Jose. One room, about 300 people. **$20** I've mentioned this one before. By the People, Doc martin spun, at some portables in Oakland, probablly about 800 folks. **$20** Some odd extremly small art gallery that DRC, Side Burn Slim and two other people spun at a few years back in the City(not on Minna), there were about 50 of us there and for only $8 and went all night long. And the list could go on and on if I tried. Peace Elizabeth PS- I said I wasn't trying to be rude, bitchy or put anybody down, so please do not interpret it in that way. THANKS. It would be impossible to do this sort of thing with full > permits. > > -troy > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me > http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks > "I just don't have the discipline to be a hippie" <- Homer J. Simpson From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 22:11:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23994 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 22:11:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 23977 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 22:11:28 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 22:11:28 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA03067 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 17:10:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca1-190.ix.netcom.com(209.109.232.190) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma003030; Wed May 26 17:10:39 1999 Message-ID: <374C810F.1AE@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:17:51 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: summarizing 18-up]] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Siphon wrote: > > This issue has nothing to do with permits. Permits state 18+ at an all > night event - correct me if I'm wrong. SORRY!! My bad. I totally forgot that if your under 18 you have a curfew and you can't even be out passed...?? ** i don't even know.** Once again, I apologize. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 22:23:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3554 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 22:23:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 3537 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 22:23:11 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 22:23:11 -0000 Received: from Anachra@aol.com (7806) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPLWa11104 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 18:22:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Anachra@aol.com Message-ID: <57ee8797.247dce1c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 18:22:20 EDT Subject: RE: citywide curfews To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk actually, just a clarification...curfews for minors vary by city and county. Not all cities even have a curfew for minors in place. In those that do, the time varies. Certain cities also only have a curfew for minors under 16. *shrug* spacey From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 22:24:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4627 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 22:24:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 4617 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 22:24:27 -0000 Received: from www.bass-station.com (HELO bass-station.com) (206.111.131.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 22:24:27 -0000 Received: from inteva26 (206.111.131.80) by bass-station.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.1); Wed, 26 May 1999 15:18:47 -0700 Message-ID: <011b01bea7c6$920029c0$6a81a8c0@inteva26.topica.com> From: "greg" To: "sfraves" Subject: The Renegade VM--510-533-5832 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:24:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The voice mail for the friday renegade is 510-533-5832, not the number listed previously. thanks!, greg From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 22:31:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9177 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 22:31:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 9148 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 22:31:02 -0000 Received: from web132.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.175) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 22:31:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19990526223221.6988.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web132.yahoomail.com; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:32:21 PDT Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:32:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: NRR: BSP: My very own web page. To: SF Raver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think I got enough stuff so the filter peeps are happy. ;) anyhoo, for the rest of you, here is my web page I've been working on. I posted it up a few times because it is the simi-offical site for 916junglist. But now I've added a chill room with stories from fellow ravers and a Jungle MP3 page. http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Alley/4636/ *HUGZ* pat From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 22:45:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20644 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 22:45:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19990526224535.20643.qmail@hyperreal.org> Received: (qmail 20623 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 22:45:32 -0000 Received: from tyranny.egregious.net (qmailr@206.159.99.12) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 22:45:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 12024 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 22:45:30 -0000 Received: from pm1-13.truelink.com (HELO catharsis) (206.159.99.109) by tyranny.egregious.net with SMTP; 26 May 1999 22:45:30 -0000 X-Sender: catharsis@tyranny.egregious.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:50:26 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Catharsis Subject: Re: F8: Trance Reviews In-Reply-To: <374c6bee.fa4.0@jmail.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 02:47 PM 5/26/99 -11-20, you wrote: Neat! I am going to finally release two mix comps next week. >As for track selections, Tinrib has hell of cool shit. "Deaf by Stereo" and >"Let's Go!" are tight (on the same record) This one is going to be on my live comp from the closing night of Egregious (April 7th). >Another one called "Travel: Bulgarian Disc One" is the shit. This one is on my new mix comp. The Jon the Dentist mix rocks! Some other awesome records on the comp include DJ Taucher (Children of the Universe), DJ Alice (Better Off Alone), Liquid Sun (The Beginning, this one is for the Star Wars fans!). I'll make sure to send a BSP next week when it is official. Anyway.. Hope to meet the SFRaves folks at PVD and F8 in June. I also know there are some people on this list that are into the industrial scene. Check out Dekonstrukt's ("www.dekonstrukt.net") one year anniverary June 17th. Raoul Roucka the artist/DJ behind the awesome German power noise band Noisex will be DJing (doubt if any mixing will occur, but who knows..) Oh yeah! If any peeps here are from SLO area (not you Greg!) and want to chill at a small house (trance) party this weekend give me an email!! --Catharsis Egregious (San Luis Obispo, CA) "Spiritual renewal through music" 805.541.8496 or write: PO Box 1136, San Luis Obispo, CA, 93406 "http://www.egregious.net" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 22:58:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 623 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 22:58:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 598 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 22:58:26 -0000 Received: from jmail.co.jp (HELO calvin.iac.co.jp) (209.85.120.230) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 22:58:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 19809 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 22:58:41 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO jmail.co.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 May 1999 22:58:41 -0000 From: "ProtoTypical Chris" Reply-to: prototype@raveaddict.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:58:41 GST -1080 Subject: Origin Message-id: <374c7ca1.4d5d.0@jmail.co.jp> X-User-Info: 171.133.216.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Who's going to Origin and/or Man in the Moon? I'm going to both. Already got my tix. Look for the 4:20 hat, black "LOVEVOLVES" T-shirt, and my snazzy new white and red fatigues. Oh, and glowstix. Gotta have the glowstix. And yes, I love trance. And yes, I wear candy. But I also dig tekno and breaks and some house (and tek-house is super-shit), so THERE!!! => -=ProtoTypical Chris=- >><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><><><><><><><><><><> Like my COOL email address? Get one like it FREE at http://www.MUSICOSM.com ! Visit today! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed May 26 23:38:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1190 invoked by uid 6000); 26 May 1999 23:38:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 1179 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 23:38:09 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 23:38:09 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (7819) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id xAWPa01220; Wed, 26 May 1999 19:34:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 19:34:31 EDT Subject: bSp: DJMEGATRON live in the mix on KALX berkeley-5/27/99 To: sf-jungle@saturn5.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Time for me to pull out the arsenal of jungle records again..and other shit..... yes back again is the induliblisticalpracticalmackadoshiouslyfabulous DJ MEGATRON on KALX berkeley 90.7fm. i am rollin out the jungle and other bits from 9am to 12 noon tomarrow, thursday the 27th of may. i will be premiring some new jungle cuts including the brand new Goldie aka Rufige Kru "ArkAngel". other bits include the new Jonny L "bellz" and Todd Terry "Blackout". i will also be bumpin the latest hip hop and house tracks and some other weird shit. so dont forget... WHO:DJ MEGATRON in the mix WHAT: KALX berkeley WHEN: 5/27/99 at 9am to 12 noon WHERE: in the bassement of barrows hall Cal Berkeley WHY: because i luv it aloooot HOW: with my bare hands so make sure u guys tune in...and if u want a shout out then mail me private style....lates DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 00:03:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16821 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 00:03:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 16798 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 00:03:08 -0000 Received: from x15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 00:03:08 -0000 Received: (from elias_smith@juno.com) by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EBK642BT; Wed, 26 May 1999 20:02:01 EDT To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 03:18:20 -0700 Subject: Re: 18+ parties - correction Message-ID: <19990507.031901.-829459.0.Elias_Smith@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-3,5-6,8,11-12,16-17,20-33,35-64 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Darth Jar Jar Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk A couple days I made a post about more possible ways to inform people on various drug education. One of those ideas was to put info on the flyer of an event itself. I stand corrected. I didn't think that one through before posting and I'm gettin' good at that too! -2 points for Galen. Putting ANY drug references on a flyer can have serious repercussions for the promoter, kids, and the scene in general. So i take that idea back. Thanx Lesley for pointing that out. I hadn't seen it that way. Doing such a thing might actually reinforce the whole "Raving is about drugs" thing to many people. And that is not such a great message to relay. And it's not the promoter's responsibility to get this info out, either, but someone has to take it. Because obviously D.A.R.E. sucked a jar jar binks and didn't work. But they sure made cool t-shirts didn't they? er.. possibly not. But in any event, there are many ways to successfully get this information out without jeapordizing yourself or the scene, which not many people are doing. Only a small handful. Best of luck kids. -g ========================== "Eat, drink, and be fat and drunk" -some guy? On Wed, 5 May 1999 05:25:01 -0700 Darth Galen writes: >err.. >If peeps over 18 want to party in a more mature setting, there is no >problem with that. But that is of course up to the party-goer and >promoter. That's your choice. > >But instead of excluding younger kids, let's think of how to eduacate >them. Raves are about awareness in my book, and it is a good >oportunity to teach people ideas and all sorts of fun wonderful >things!! > >So what say, DRUG AWARENESS? A familiar topic, I believe. >Drug Awareness booths are good ideas, but not everybody is gonna take >the time to visit one. >So go on a limb here promoters! The same way you promote your party >you can also inform. Here's a couple random ideas... > >-VOICE MAIL. State all the dangers of the possible drugs the kids are >going to consume that night. Go through the whole list of 'em. You can >even do this before giving out directions the night of. If every >promoter did this, the message would surely get out. Oh sure, kids >would get sick of hearing about all the possible dangers of drugs, but >by that point, it would be imprinted. > >-FLYERS. How many flyers have you got that were blank on one side? >That blank side could be used for something. Use your imagination. > >Or you could even try handing a pamphlet out at the door. If there is >enough time to search kids and deal with collecting tix, hand a >pamphlet to every one that enters. or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 00:10:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23585 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 00:10:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 23568 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 00:10:55 -0000 Received: from law2-f122.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.122) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 00:10:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 61625 invoked by uid 0); 27 May 1999 00:10:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527001028.61624.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.149.167.15 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 26 May 1999 17:10:28 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.149.167.15] From: "didu hearthat" To: montereypat@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: An answer from a jungalista :D Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 17:10:28 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey there Pat, I just wanted to respond to this, even though i'm not a dj, i play one on t.v. :D hehe. but i truly pride myself on knowing quite a bit about dance music in general and jungle in particular. So i hope it's ok that i respond cause this is one of my favorite subjects. Jungle, to me, is just a little bit of everything. (And i'm eagerly awaiting the day when i hear it mixed more, by me or somewho who knows what the hell they are doing, with other types of music besides hip hop and the occasional rock stuff, big P.B.S. Crew, Craze, and Z-Trip) Being a singer, i find myself putting together the craziest, most random songs, over jungle. But they work because jungle was born out of so many styles. Mainly Jazz, Hip Hop, Miami/Tampa Bass, Crazy hadr rock and so much more. Anyway, write me, if you wanna talk more about it. It's my favoirte subject and exactly WHY i love jungle so. it's everything. peace and love, shida ( mc angel) >Patrick Seaton wrote: The more I look into jungle/drum & bass, the more I notice how diverse the styes within it is. I was wondering what some of the musical influences you DJs have used to bring jungle to where it is today. > > *HUGZ* > > pat From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 00:12:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24906 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 00:12:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 24870 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 00:12:24 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 00:12:24 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com (3701) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id tKKJa27309; Wed, 26 May 1999 20:10:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 20:10:58 EDT Subject: Re: filters To: mdalal@ixpres.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You see, this is the kinda thing that annoys me. If you are so concerned about filters, why did you spam US with your mail? If you had put (NRR) in the subject, everybody could have *filtered* out your mail. In a message dated 5/26/99 3:04:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mdalal@ixpres.com writes: << (ive got my filters set up now..so im all >about some mass deleting) FILTERS ARE THE SHIT. >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 00:19:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27968 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 00:19:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 27958 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 00:19:48 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 00:19:48 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (14464) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJVSa02744; Wed, 26 May 1999 20:18:36 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <2fb7e720.247de95b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 20:18:35 EDT Subject: Re: filters To: Space201@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/26/1999 5:12:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Space201@aol.com writes: << why did you spam US with your mail? >> Im asking you the very same thing? WHY? Keep this private. No need to have everyone read this. If it bothers you just simply email the person. Not the whole list. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 00:22:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29716 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 00:22:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 29705 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 00:22:27 -0000 Received: from dns.topica.com (root@206.111.131.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 00:22:27 -0000 Received: from inteva26 (h80.n131.topica.com [206.111.131.80]) by dns.topica.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA26549 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 17:22:20 -0700 Message-ID: <01ce01bea7d7$0b6db920$6a81a8c0@inteva26.topica.com> From: "greg" To: "sfraves" Subject: [bsp]RENEGADE--SLAP ME!--VM CORRECTION! info up tonight. Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 17:22:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk For those of us not going to OODE this weekend, who would like to spend the entire weekend in a state of dance-induced bliss, Greg and Re-ach present: Friday night, May 28th Slap Me! a return to the underbelly of the urban utopia. This is a true underground held on a piece of land in great upheaval, so bring everything you need for a riotous urban adventure: blankets, warm clothes, food and water to share, candles, toys, glass, trashbags, eachother. We'll be getting started around midnight in a centrally located, easy to get to east bay location. Please follow the instructions on the VM so we can keep the party low profile and bust free. We'll probably be using cars to create a makeshift sound wall, so help us out, and in return you'll be parked closer to the event. Just follow the instructions on the VM. The voice mail # for the event is 510-533-5832 Email greg@bass-station.com if you'd like to help out. Your DJ's: [in no particular order] Greg [FnF] Re-ach [st@ic, A.R.M., FnF] Ethan [FnF] Miranda [L.F.C.] Ronan [Sweet, St. John's Divine Rhythm Society] We hope to see you all there! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 00:37:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6751 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 00:37:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 6735 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 00:37:36 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 00:37:36 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com (3701) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vACCa02691; Wed, 26 May 1999 20:35:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: <18a71f94.247ded70@aol.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 20:36:00 EDT Subject: Re: filters To: BigM009@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/26/99 5:18:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Big M 009 writes: << Im asking you the very same thing? WHY? Keep this private. No need to have everyone read this. If it bothers you just simply email the person. Not the whole list. >> Well, now I'm asking you the same thing? Why? I was hoping to get this question, and the answer is to REINFORCE (NRR). From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 00:51:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11903 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 00:51:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 11894 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 00:51:36 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?j/v01DOeu+diX5Ds+qtVmX/VScu41c51?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 00:51:36 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id RAA21844 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 17:51:35 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 17:51:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: like I'm a pretty nice guy and all Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk but I must say that of the people who have posted in the past four days, 80-90% of you are just not saying anything. At all. Mindless mindless business. I mean that. SHUT UP. =) It's time to start talking about whether or not L-Trypto from eating turkey while you are on E has any effect. If I see one more mail about filters and sending things in private or public, you are all grounded. All of you. No discussion. Also, Metalheadz is going to release Psi-Clone "EVerywhere I Go" remix. Psi-Clone is a combination of A-Sides and a New Zealander saxaphone player. This tune is absolutely one of the most powerful and touching songs of any type of music I have ever heard. The second breakdown just came through with the beautiful chord progressions and I am so close to tears. Happy ones. Well, sort of sad too. That is why this tune is the greatest, it gets my emotions completely tangled. A different way every time I hear it. You'll see. Ask Jamalski or Rinse or Flux to make the BASS Kru guys play it as their last tune at MEtropolis. You will get the shivers, this shit is runnin. Those interested should visit http://jungle.ffwd.com/advance click the banner and go in click the second to the left button at the bottom for ADVANCE FM. tune into the 1/8/99 show. Timestretch's last tune at about 1hr53mins is EVerywhere I Go remix, accompanied at the beginning by the Rumble MC and Timestretch cursing at their machines. Yeah nice1. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 01:19:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21851 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 01:19:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 21827 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 01:19:21 -0000 Received: from mail.wgn.net (207.213.0.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 01:19:21 -0000 Received: from HV-4511.WDS.DISNEY.COM (du344-pcap-nca01.wgn.net [207.213.6.90]) by mail.wgn.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id SAA28855; Wed, 26 May 1999 18:15:46 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990526181817.007a2e40@mail.wgn.net> X-Sender: bradleyb@mail.wgn.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 18:18:17 -0700 To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: Bradley B Subject: (BSP) DUNE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, My name is Bradley B and I'm a member of socal-raves and am part of a crew that throw's an annual outdoor desert party called DUNE. Yes, this party is in Southern California, miles away from you, but... we've always had lots of people come from all over the country to come to our party. Every year we invite ravers around the country to experience DUNE. What began as a 500 person desert party has now grown to 10,000 people. Our parties are set apart from others because of the high-level of crowd participation (props, costumes, performers) and the high production values (we aren't full time promoters. We just throw one party a year) This year's lineup includes Paul Van Dyk and electro breaks wizard Rennie Pilgrem (UK), along with John Tejada, Christopher Lawrence (Hook, Fragrant), Doran (Fragrant), Treavor (moontribe) and myself. The party takes place on June 19th and we'd love to have you come out and experience one of our very special desert parties. Info on the party can be found at http://www.dunefestival.com. The event is $15 presale this year to ensure we can elevate both the production values and the safety of this ever-growing party. Feel free to email me with any of your questions or to be put on our mailing list. Hope you can make it! Bradley B DUNE The Spice Flows on June 19 http://www.dunefestival.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 01:35:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29475 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 01:35:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 29463 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 01:35:46 -0000 Received: from dragon.ulink.net (209.160.21.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 01:35:46 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (max2-54.ulink.net [209.160.20.54]) by dragon.ulink.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id LVN6LYQG; Wed, 26 May 1999 18:36:43 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990526183040.0081d410@sol.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: ez053642@sol.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 18:30:40 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: "Terri E. Young" Subject: Buglady's promise to her Scene Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ~Buglady decree~ I promise.... to always look out for my fellow ravers/tribe from all diverse walks and times of life to always make it a point to focus on whether others in my tribe are having a good time, rather than selfishly worrying about myself to realize that people outside my scene/tribe may hold bad images of me and that is their issue and their perogative - I can't change their paradigm to likewise always treat people outside my scene/tribe with love and tolerance, so that they may see who I really am if they so choose to open their paradigm to never blame the negativity from the outside world on my fellow ravers/tribe members, to continually enforce the positive from within to take the time to teach as well as learn from my fellow ravers/tribe members to avoid parties that are being thrown for *select* members of the tribe/scene to throw parties that are made for everyone, even those outside the tribe/scene, to learn from and grow in to allow my younger tribe members/ravers to feel included and worthy to allow my older tribe members/ravers to feel included and worthy to help my new tribe members experience the ritual of initiation into a new walk of life to the same degree I did, and to always be willing to let them go their ways if necessary to realize that my tribe will always be changing, but our love never will signed, ~your buglady~ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 01:39:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1035 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 01:39:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 1014 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 01:39:02 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 01:39:02 -0000 Received: from WizardCCCA@aol.com (551) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vUNMa15042 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 21:37:49 -0400 (EDT) From: WizardCCCA@aol.com Message-ID: <12b1dcea.247dfbec@aol.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 21:37:48 EDT Subject: Guest lists To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have a question... Do guest lists to parties out here get severely out of hand? I know in Colorado when we have parties, there is always a huge commotion and a lot of bad vibes towards the people that get in free to parties.... I am asking this because i was put on the guest list to Splendor Blender as a guest of Deepsky.... I would love any feedback in my search for comparing scenes!!! Thanks, Liz From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 01:50:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5938 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 01:50:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 5930 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 01:49:58 -0000 Received: from pez.hyperreal.org (207.181.224.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 01:49:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 89148 invoked by uid 4000); 27 May 1999 01:51:18 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 May 1999 01:51:18 -0000 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 18:51:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Behlendorf To: Bradley B cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (BSP) DUNE In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990526181817.007a2e40@mail.wgn.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Wow, spam mail from DUNE. I never thought I'd see the day. Brian From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 01:54:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10653 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 01:54:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 10644 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 01:54:31 -0000 Received: from dot.crosswinds.net (204.50.152.131) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 01:54:31 -0000 Received: from panduhboi (ip165.san-francisco31.ca.pub-ip.psi.net [38.28.81.165]) by dot.crosswinds.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA71035 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 22:01:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from nemo@crosswinds.net) Message-ID: <002e01bea7e2$b2ebd500$81511c26@panduhboi> From: "Anton" To: "sfraves" Subject: - pix Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 18:45:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know the URL for the site where the 12 monkeys pics are posted? Luv an Lite, Anton ( nemo ) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 01:56:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11938 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 01:56:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 11909 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 01:56:43 -0000 Received: from mail.wgn.net (207.213.0.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 01:56:43 -0000 Received: from HV-4511.WDS.DISNEY.COM (du344-pcap-nca01.wgn.net [207.213.6.90]) by mail.wgn.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id SAA02804; Wed, 26 May 1999 18:53:34 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990526185605.007ce2a0@mail.wgn.net> X-Sender: bradleyb@mail.wgn.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 18:56:05 -0700 To: Brian Behlendorf From: Bradley B Subject: Re: (BSP) DUNE Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.6.32.19990526181817.007a2e40@mail.wgn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Whoa, I'm sorry Brian. It's just that we get lots of sf-ravers and se ravers at DUNE and i thought they'd be interested in the info. The last thing i, or anyone at DUNE, would want to do is offend sfraves or you. I also heard there were some questions about the party posted here, so i thought i would make myself known for those looking for answers. I apologize if my mail was taken as spam. Bradley At 06:51 PM 5/26/99 -0700, Brian Behlendorf wrote: > >Wow, spam mail from DUNE. I never thought I'd see the day. > > Brian > > > > DUNE The Spice Flows on June 19 http://www.dunefestival.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 03:07:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15423 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 03:07:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 15415 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 03:07:04 -0000 Received: from web1005.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.95) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 03:07:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527030703.2983.rocketmail@web1005.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.173.232.221] by web1005.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 26 May 1999 20:07:03 PDT Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 20:07:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Brandon Trumble Subject: MARITIME HALL? To: TonicBond@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >>they can and do throw parties at maritime<< I heard they cant throw raves there anymore... thats why audio impact last month had to relocate... PPL out there correct me if im wrong... I HOPE MARITIME IS STILL OPEN! Brandon --- TonicBond@aol.com wrote: > they can and do throw parties at maritime > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 03:43:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3915 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 03:43:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 3861 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 03:43:02 -0000 Received: from web1003.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.93) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 03:43:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527034301.2782.rocketmail@web1003.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.173.232.221] by web1003.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 26 May 1999 20:43:01 PDT Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 20:43:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Brandon Trumble Subject: Re: A Call Out to All Promoters (must read) To: Happy Kids , sfraves@hyperreal.org, Madhvi Dalal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk My thoughts are complicated so let me think... Ok this whole chit chat about giving the rave scene a sort of cleansing or rebirth is a lot easier said than done because no matter what all thoes thugs, g's, sluts, and pimps that we always see at the many massives that we have will always be there now. Money hungry promoters know that these massives are a trend now and so they will keep on throwing all theses massives till its a weekly thing. All we can do is seperate ourselvs from that scene, Kinda make 2 scenes bring all the true ravers underground and leave all thoes wannabeLOOKHARDdress2impressOUT2GETcantdanceDONT- LIKETHEMUSICdontunderstandallthisP.L.U.R.sh*tHOMIES with their mainstream Clockwork, Coolworld events. After we redirect all the ravers underground then we can reincarnate the real massives. The way to go about doing that is to put all them undergrounders on a mailing list and send A (1) flyer to them, some in the local underground stores, and not put them in Mr. Rags or the other trendy little clothing stores. So as a soon to be promoter I shall practice what I preach! pLuR Brandon --- Happy Kids wrote: > lotta good questions here, friend. the one question > that pops out to me is, > "how can we put these changes in motion?" i've never > been much of a mover > and shaker, only a closet musician that comes out to > play every so often. > BUT, this i can say: > > an upheaval is not the answer. we can't neutralize > the bad parts of the > scene - only separate them and in time (short time) > they will be weeded out. > the way to bring it back to what it was is to start > over. throw very small, > quality, kick-ass parties that really whack people > upside the head. it will > make them realize the potential of the scene and > strive to only participate > in events of that magnitude. all it takes is a few > events, a few promoters, > a handful of ravers to realize that good parties can > and should happen -> > then they WILL happen. the more we talk about it, > the more people might get > it inside their heads. but the proof is in the > pudding... > > ...throw some good parties people! > > note: i'm not claiming that there haven't been any > good parties in the true > underground spirit lately. i know there have been. > just not enough - it used > to be the standard. we can turn it around... > > > lotsa love -i > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Madhvi Dalal > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 2:03 AM > Subject: Re: A Call Out to All Promoters > > > okay, i'm probably way late in responding to this > post but i'd like to > anyways. (it's a bit lengthy so i'm giving you > forewarning in case you > don't want to deal w/ it.) > > First of all, i want to commend the author of this > post for being succinct > and to the point. I liked the way you got your > point across; you got > straight to the heart of the matter. > > I'm sure we all agree that "raves" can be major > moneymakers when planned > out in that way. There are business heads > everywhere looking to make the > greatest profit from whatever they can, and the rave > scene is not free from > their grasp. Because of it's high "entertainment" > quality, raves can be > manipulated fully until they become this empty means > to an end...and that's > obviously why we see these parties w/out heart & > soul being thrown and that > lack the creativity that is spoken of. > > >there used to be a separation of the massive scene > and the underground. > > Massives a long time ago used to be a rare rare > thing, and > small/medium-size parties were standard. MAssives > were reserved for maybe > things like special events or something like that > which made them good to > go to once in a while. Now it's the standard and i > wonder if that's b/c > there are just more partygoers or more promoters > using the scene as a > business venue? I dunno, maybe it's both? > > >all it takes is a little bit of money, a whole lot > of love, and a > >SHITLOAD of effort but >it's worth it. i think some > of you old-schoolers > >would agree. it can happen again. it's >up to us. > let's do it! i'm going > >to. > > It's my heart's dream to build a better future for > the scene. We're > responsible for taking it up and we taking it down > don't you think? Why, > when we're the ones who were present at it's > inception and grew/are growing > with it and helped it grow, WHY do we think we > cannot affect or change the > present situation? I think it can happen again too > b/c really, what would > my life be w/out this? It would not have the same > meaning for me, it > really wouldn't. I want to do it too, i am up for > doing anything i can to > affect the continuum; however, i must admit, i'm not > sure exactly where it > should start. How do you decide when change will > take place...will it be > the result of small changes here & there or major > upheavals? And how do > you get this factioned and not very organized > "nation" of ours to actively > participate? How do we unite and create solidarity > among ourselves and > recognize each other? Is this reaching too far > beyond what is possible? I > hope not b/c i'd like to think that this is the goal > we are trying to move > towards--but still, is it expecting too much? I'm > sorry if I'm asking 20 > questions here but I just think in terms of > logistics of the thing and how > we would consolidate...I think that we have not yet > begun to understand our > strength and power as a group; at least in terms of > sheer numbers if > nothing else. And that lack of realization keep us > back as much as > anything, i believe. > > I wonder what the magic key is that will come along > and unlock this answer > for us, what will bring us together and take us to > that next level of > society and being? Am i being too abstract here? I > feel like I know that > it's something that is quite a possibility...but how > do we begin to forge > it and try and retreat from all the commercialistic > trend that surrounds it? > > Okay, i dunno if any of this makes sense at all...it > does to me (obviously) > but i hope i haven't done too poor a job in trying > to get my thoughts > across. My only excuse is that it's 2 AM and i'm a > little out of it, but i > still had to put my thoughts to paper, or keyboard, > or whatever...y'know > what i mean. > > hugs & love > > madhvi > > > > > > > >lotsa love -i > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 03:44:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6602 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 03:44:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 6584 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 03:44:42 -0000 Received: from web1006.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.96) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 03:44:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527034441.10092.rocketmail@web1006.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.173.232.221] by web1006.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 26 May 1999 20:44:41 PDT Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 20:44:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Brandon Trumble Subject: Promoters and ravers alike should read this To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk My thoughts are complicated so let me think... Ok this whole chit chat about giving the rave scene a sort of cleansing or rebirth is a lot easier said than done because no matter what all thoes thugs, g's, sluts, and pimps that we always see at the many massives that we have will always be there now. Money hungry promoters know that these massives are a trend now and so they will keep on throwing all theses massives till its a weekly thing. All we can do is seperate ourselvs from that scene, Kinda make 2 scenes bring all the true ravers underground and leave all thoes wannabeLOOKHARDdress2impressOUT2GETcantdanceDONT- LIKETHEMUSICdontunderstandallthisP.L.U.R.sh*tHOMIES with their mainstream Clockwork, Coolworld events. After we redirect all the ravers underground then we can reincarnate the real massives. The way to go about doing that is to put all them undergrounders on a mailing list and send A (1) flyer to them, some in the local underground stores, and not put them in Mr. Rags or the other trendy little clothing stores. So as a soon to be promoter I shall practice what I preach! pLuR Brandon --- Happy Kids wrote: > lotta good questions here, friend. the one question > that pops out to me is, > "how can we put these changes in motion?" i've never > been much of a mover > and shaker, only a closet musician that comes out to > play every so often. > BUT, this i can say: > > an upheaval is not the answer. we can't neutralize > the bad parts of the > scene - only separate them and in time (short time) > they will be weeded out. > the way to bring it back to what it was is to start > over. throw very small, > quality, kick-ass parties that really whack people > upside the head. it will > make them realize the potential of the scene and > strive to only participate > in events of that magnitude. all it takes is a few > events, a few promoters, > a handful of ravers to realize that good parties can > and should happen -> > then they WILL happen. the more we talk about it, > the more people might get > it inside their heads. but the proof is in the > pudding... > > ...throw some good parties people! > > note: i'm not claiming that there haven't been any > good parties in the true > underground spirit lately. i know there have been. > just not enough - it used > to be the standard. we can turn it around... > > > lotsa love -i > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Madhvi Dalal > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 2:03 AM > Subject: Re: A Call Out to All Promoters > > > okay, i'm probably way late in responding to this > post but i'd like to > anyways. (it's a bit lengthy so i'm giving you > forewarning in case you > don't want to deal w/ it.) > > First of all, i want to commend the author of this > post for being succinct > and to the point. I liked the way you got your > point across; you got > straight to the heart of the matter. > > I'm sure we all agree that "raves" can be major > moneymakers when planned > out in that way. There are business heads > everywhere looking to make the > greatest profit from whatever they can, and the rave > scene is not free from > their grasp. Because of it's high "entertainment" > quality, raves can be > manipulated fully until they become this empty means > to an end...and that's > obviously why we see these parties w/out heart & > soul being thrown and that > lack the creativity that is spoken of. > > >there used to be a separation of the massive scene > and the underground. > > Massives a long time ago used to be a rare rare > thing, and > small/medium-size parties were standard. MAssives > were reserved for maybe > things like special events or something like that > which made them good to > go to once in a while. Now it's the standard and i > wonder if that's b/c > there are just more partygoers or more promoters > using the scene as a > business venue? I dunno, maybe it's both? > > >all it takes is a little bit of money, a whole lot > of love, and a > >SHITLOAD of effort but >it's worth it. i think some > of you old-schoolers > >would agree. it can happen again. it's >up to us. > let's do it! i'm going > >to. > > It's my heart's dream to build a better future for > the scene. We're > responsible for taking it up and we taking it down > don't you think? Why, > when we're the ones who were present at it's > inception and grew/are growing > with it and helped it grow, WHY do we think we > cannot affect or change the > present situation? I think it can happen again too > b/c really, what would > my life be w/out this? It would not have the same > meaning for me, it > really wouldn't. I want to do it too, i am up for > doing anything i can to > affect the continuum; however, i must admit, i'm not > sure exactly where it > should start. How do you decide when change will > take place...will it be > the result of small changes here & there or major > upheavals? And how do > you get this factioned and not very organized > "nation" of ours to actively > participate? How do we unite and create solidarity > among ourselves and > recognize each other? Is this reaching too far > beyond what is possible? I > hope not b/c i'd like to think that this is the goal > we are trying to move > towards--but still, is it expecting too much? I'm > sorry if I'm asking 20 > questions here but I just think in terms of > logistics of the thing and how > we would consolidate...I think that we have not yet > begun to understand our > strength and power as a group; at least in terms of > sheer numbers if > nothing else. And that lack of realization keep us > back as much as > anything, i believe. > > I wonder what the magic key is that will come along > and unlock this answer > for us, what will bring us together and take us to > that next level of > society and being? Am i being too abstract here? I > feel like I know that > it's something that is quite a possibility...but how > do we begin to forge > it and try and retreat from all the commercialistic > trend that surrounds it? > > Okay, i dunno if any of this makes sense at all...it > does to me (obviously) > but i hope i haven't done too poor a job in trying > to get my thoughts > across. My only excuse is that it's 2 AM and i'm a > little out of it, but i > still had to put my thoughts to paper, or keyboard, > or whatever...y'know > what i mean. > > hugs & love > > madhvi > > > > > > > >lotsa love -i > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 04:07:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14960 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 04:07:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 14939 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 04:07:33 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 04:07:33 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EBLL5FS8; Thu, 27 May 1999 00:06:55 EDT To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 21:03:39 -0700 Subject: more dune info Message-ID: <19990526.211130.-30969.1.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 04:16:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18847 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 04:16:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 18832 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 04:16:39 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 04:16:39 -0000 Received: from WizardCCCA@aol.com (8076) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vAVCa03101 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 00:15:18 -0400 (EDT) From: WizardCCCA@aol.com Message-ID: <2d40ea9f.247e20d6@aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 00:15:18 EDT Subject: NRR: Great way to keep in touch To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey.. I think this is a neat deal on the internet... it is an online planner so you don't ever have to carry an address book around... plus you can meet up with friends from high school and earn prizes from Amazon... Check it out for yourself!!! -- I'm using a group on PlanetAll.com called sfraves to maintain up-to-date contact information on my friends in sfraves, to communicate with group members on bulletin boards, and to meet new people. To join this group, click on the following link: http://www.PlanetAll.com/main.asp?cid=537443&gid=102954&s=40 If you've never used PlanetAll.com before you'll need to go through a quick registration so you can participate. It only takes a minute and it's free. Look forward to seeing you there! Liz From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 05:01:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8793 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 05:01:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 8785 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 05:01:23 -0000 Received: from web113.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.84) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 05:01:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527050124.28109.rocketmail@web113.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.34.184.115] by web113.yahoomail.com; Wed, 26 May 1999 22:01:24 PDT Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 22:01:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: MARITIME HALL? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk They just had Formula there. So I guess it is still open. It was 18+ and had heavy security. I don't know if that was different than before because that was my only time there. --- Brandon Trumble wrote: > I heard they cant throw raves there anymore... thats > why audio impact > last month had to relocate... PPL out there correct > me if im wrong... I > HOPE MARITIME IS STILL OPEN! > > Brandon > > --- TonicBond@aol.com wrote: > > they can and do throw parties at maritime > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 05:13:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12311 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 05:13:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 12303 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 05:13:40 -0000 Received: from toucan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.98) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 05:13:40 -0000 Received: from ianvogel (pool128-cvx.ds52-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.149.128]) by toucan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA06151; Wed, 26 May 1999 22:13:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <002e01bea7ff$61333ec0$8095b3d1@ianvogel> From: "Happy Kids" To: , "Terri E. Young" References: <3.0.6.32.19990526183040.0081d410@sol.ucdavis.edu> Subject: Re: Buglady's promise to her Scene Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 22:11:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk beautiful. ideals we should all live up to. thanks terri! this kind of affirmation is exactly what the scene needs. keep this positivity flowing! lotsa love-i ----- Original Message ----- From: Terri E. Young To: Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 6:30 PM Subject: Buglady's promise to her Scene > > ~Buglady decree~ > > I promise.... > > to always look out for my fellow ravers/tribe from all diverse walks and > times of life > > to always make it a point to focus on whether others in my tribe are having > a good time, rather than selfishly worrying about myself > > to realize that people outside my scene/tribe may hold bad images of me and > that is their issue and their perogative - I can't change their paradigm > > to likewise always treat people outside my scene/tribe with love and > tolerance, so that they may see who I really am if they so choose to open > their paradigm > > to never blame the negativity from the outside world on my fellow > ravers/tribe members, to continually enforce the positive from within > > to take the time to teach as well as learn from my fellow ravers/tribe members > > to avoid parties that are being thrown for *select* members of the tribe/scene > > to throw parties that are made for everyone, even those outside the > tribe/scene, to learn from and grow in > > to allow my younger tribe members/ravers to feel included and worthy > > to allow my older tribe members/ravers to feel included and worthy > > to help my new tribe members experience the ritual of initiation into a new > walk of life to the same degree I did, and to always be willing to let them > go their ways if necessary > > to realize that my tribe will always be changing, but our love never will > > > signed, > > ~your buglady~ > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 05:27:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18149 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 05:27:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 18118 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 05:27:14 -0000 Received: from toucan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.98) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 05:27:14 -0000 Received: from ianvogel (pool128-cvx.ds52-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.149.128]) by toucan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA18123; Wed, 26 May 1999 22:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <004d01bea801$44b68ac0$8095b3d1@ianvogel> From: "Happy Kids" To: "Brandon Trumble" , , "Madhvi Dalal" References: <19990527034301.2782.rocketmail@web1003.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: A Call Out to All Promoters (must read) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 22:23:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk that's exactly what i'm saying! ever since i started throwing parties, i've always been about "selective promoting" = meeting people, talking with them, and THEN giving them a flyer. it's real easy not to draw a bad crowd. don't put your party on the calendar, don't leave a stack on the front table at 2nd and jack(your money)son, and do it all YOURSELF so you can be assured of a good crowd. also if you LOAD up your ghetto kinko's flyer with TONS of cheesy shit and make the lineup REAL small (the happy kids tradition) you'd be surprised how many people bad that weeds out. lotsa love -i ----- Original Message ----- From: Brandon Trumble To: Happy Kids ; ; Madhvi Dalal Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 8:43 PM Subject: Re: A Call Out to All Promoters (must read) > My thoughts are complicated so let me think... Ok this whole chit chat > about giving the rave scene a sort of cleansing or rebirth is a lot > easier said than done because no matter what all thoes thugs, g's, > sluts, and pimps that we always see at the many massives that we have > will always be there now. Money hungry promoters know that these > massives are a trend now and so they will keep on throwing all theses > massives till its a weekly thing. All we can do is seperate ourselvs > from that scene, Kinda make 2 scenes bring all the true ravers > underground and leave all thoes > wannabeLOOKHARDdress2impressOUT2GETcantdanceDONT- > LIKETHEMUSICdontunderstandallthisP.L.U.R.sh*tHOMIES with their > mainstream Clockwork, Coolworld events. After we redirect all the > ravers underground then we can reincarnate the real massives. The way > to go about doing that is to put all them undergrounders on a mailing > list and send A (1) flyer to them, some in the local underground > stores, and not put them in Mr. Rags or the other trendy little > clothing stores. So as a soon to be promoter I shall practice what I > preach! > > pLuR > Brandon > > --- Happy Kids wrote: > > lotta good questions here, friend. the one question > > that pops out to me is, > > "how can we put these changes in motion?" i've never > > been much of a mover > > and shaker, only a closet musician that comes out to > > play every so often. > > BUT, this i can say: > > > > an upheaval is not the answer. we can't neutralize > > the bad parts of the > > scene - only separate them and in time (short time) > > they will be weeded out. > > the way to bring it back to what it was is to start > > over. throw very small, > > quality, kick-ass parties that really whack people > > upside the head. it will > > make them realize the potential of the scene and > > strive to only participate > > in events of that magnitude. all it takes is a few > > events, a few promoters, > > a handful of ravers to realize that good parties can > > and should happen -> > > then they WILL happen. the more we talk about it, > > the more people might get > > it inside their heads. but the proof is in the > > pudding... > > > > ...throw some good parties people! > > > > note: i'm not claiming that there haven't been any > > good parties in the true > > underground spirit lately. i know there have been. > > just not enough - it used > > to be the standard. we can turn it around... > > > > > > lotsa love -i > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Madhvi Dalal > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 2:03 AM > > Subject: Re: A Call Out to All Promoters > > > > > > okay, i'm probably way late in responding to this > > post but i'd like to > > anyways. (it's a bit lengthy so i'm giving you > > forewarning in case you > > don't want to deal w/ it.) > > > > First of all, i want to commend the author of this > > post for being succinct > > and to the point. I liked the way you got your > > point across; you got > > straight to the heart of the matter. > > > > I'm sure we all agree that "raves" can be major > > moneymakers when planned > > out in that way. There are business heads > > everywhere looking to make the > > greatest profit from whatever they can, and the rave > > scene is not free from > > their grasp. Because of it's high "entertainment" > > quality, raves can be > > manipulated fully until they become this empty means > > to an end...and that's > > obviously why we see these parties w/out heart & > > soul being thrown and that > > lack the creativity that is spoken of. > > > > >there used to be a separation of the massive scene > > and the underground. > > > > Massives a long time ago used to be a rare rare > > thing, and > > small/medium-size parties were standard. MAssives > > were reserved for maybe > > things like special events or something like that > > which made them good to > > go to once in a while. Now it's the standard and i > > wonder if that's b/c > > there are just more partygoers or more promoters > > using the scene as a > > business venue? I dunno, maybe it's both? > > > > >all it takes is a little bit of money, a whole lot > > of love, and a > > >SHITLOAD of effort but >it's worth it. i think some > > of you old-schoolers > > >would agree. it can happen again. it's >up to us. > > let's do it! i'm going > > >to. > > > > It's my heart's dream to build a better future for > > the scene. We're > > responsible for taking it up and we taking it down > > don't you think? Why, > > when we're the ones who were present at it's > > inception and grew/are growing > > with it and helped it grow, WHY do we think we > > cannot affect or change the > > present situation? I think it can happen again too > > b/c really, what would > > my life be w/out this? It would not have the same > > meaning for me, it > > really wouldn't. I want to do it too, i am up for > > doing anything i can to > > affect the continuum; however, i must admit, i'm not > > sure exactly where it > > should start. How do you decide when change will > > take place...will it be > > the result of small changes here & there or major > > upheavals? And how do > > you get this factioned and not very organized > > "nation" of ours to actively > > participate? How do we unite and create solidarity > > among ourselves and > > recognize each other? Is this reaching too far > > beyond what is possible? I > > hope not b/c i'd like to think that this is the goal > > we are trying to move > > towards--but still, is it expecting too much? I'm > > sorry if I'm asking 20 > > questions here but I just think in terms of > > logistics of the thing and how > > we would consolidate...I think that we have not yet > > begun to understand our > > strength and power as a group; at least in terms of > > sheer numbers if > > nothing else. And that lack of realization keep us > > back as much as > > anything, i believe. > > > > I wonder what the magic key is that will come along > > and unlock this answer > > for us, what will bring us together and take us to > > that next level of > > society and being? Am i being too abstract here? I > > feel like I know that > > it's something that is quite a possibility...but how > > do we begin to forge > > it and try and retreat from all the commercialistic > > trend that surrounds it? > > > > Okay, i dunno if any of this makes sense at all...it > > does to me (obviously) > > but i hope i haven't done too poor a job in trying > > to get my thoughts > > across. My only excuse is that it's 2 AM and i'm a > > little out of it, but i > > still had to put my thoughts to paper, or keyboard, > > or whatever...y'know > > what i mean. > > > > hugs & love > > > > madhvi > > > > > > > > > > > > >lotsa love -i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 05:37:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24572 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 05:37:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 24406 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 05:37:05 -0000 Received: from web1005.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.95) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 05:37:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527053705.27202.rocketmail@web1005.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.77.82.126] by web1005.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 26 May 1999 22:37:05 PDT Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 22:37:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Junglist Mikey Subject: Re: MARITIME HALL? To: Brandon Trumble , TonicBond@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Mr Trumble is very wrong indeed. I was obviously just at Formula, which has been by far my Jungle experience of a lifetime. Plus they Had Roni Size there. "your everyday junglist" Mikey From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 06:34:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16803 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 06:34:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 16790 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 06:34:42 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 06:34:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527062800.13609.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [208.1.144.64] by attach1; Wed, 26 May 1999 23:28:00 PDT Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 23:28:00 -0700 (PDT) From: pj fuzzy Subject: nrr(but partially rave caused)is there a cmt in the house??? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk any one know any good places for therapeutic massage shiatsu and the like- I think I have royally screwed up my neck and back gyrating and bobbing the last couple of months (the six spills I took during rollerdisco night didn't help either) any info would be appreciated pjf From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 07:03:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27768 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 07:03:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 27753 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 07:03:51 -0000 Received: from mailgate.cadence.com (158.140.2.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 07:03:51 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.cadence.com (8.8.5/8.6.8) id AAA21179 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 00:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.Cadence.COM(158.140.128.33) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (mjr-v1.2) id xma927788629.021175; Thu, 27 May 99 00:03:49 -0700 Received: from urbanassault.org (sj6-lras44-d158140044189 [158.140.44.189]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA23089 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 00:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <374CEF83.B1A9579C@urbanassault.org> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 00:08:51 -0700 From: Siphon Reply-To: siphon@urbanassault.org Organization: Urban Assault X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: BSP: applesauce 5.30.99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk san jose 5.30 2.pm till 2.am jungle dj's symplex siphon honey b sifu raw siren ufo sage hak + trance scott dc keith edwards skyscraper oddeci matthew +funky beats mei lwun darkhorse m3 chris haycock alvaro stuart +house jonene tasho preston rasoul chris perrins harry who? free b4 4.pm $10.00 after ecco 87 n.san pedro 408.793.0328 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 07:53:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16609 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 07:53:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 16592 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 07:53:19 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 07:53:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527075153.25821.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.86.220.227] by web4; Thu, 27 May 1999 00:51:53 PDT Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 00:51:53 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: All's quiet on the western front... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm out for the weekend. Have a safe holiday everyone. -Alex From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 08:09:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20613 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 08:09:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 20604 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 08:09:08 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 08:09:08 -0000 From: "Michael, The Red Stickman" Subject: Re: A Call Out to All Promoters (must read) To: "Happy Kids" , "Brandon Trumble" , , "Madhvi Dalal" X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.2.9b5 Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 01:09:42 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk . When I promote an UG party at a more commercial-type party, I make sure to take the Ian (Happy Kids, SF) approach as well. I like to tell people a little bit about the party, and explain our intentions, goals, and mission statement behind our party. I don't just selectively promote to cute girls either. :P I promote to people after speaking with them for a while, and get a feel of what the promotee is all about. (Actually, I usually don't promote to cute girls, 'cause I'm too shy, but I'm getting off the subject.) A friend once told me, "good people just seem to naturally gravitate toward each other." I believe this to be true. With regard to ravers, this has proven (in my experience) to be true as well. You *will* find out about the more well-intentioned parties. love, michael o)-< On Wed, 26 May 1999 22:23:52 -0700 "Happy Kids" jabberred: that's exactly what i'm saying! ever since i started throwing parties, i've always been about "selective promoting" = meeting people, talking with them, and THEN giving them a flyer. it's real easy not to draw a bad crowd. don't put your party on the calendar, don't leave a stack on the front table at 2nd and jack(your money)son, and do it all YOURSELF so you can be assured of a good crowd. also if you LOAD up your ghetto kinko's flyer with TONS of cheesy shit and make the lineup REAL small (the happy kids tradition) you'd be surprised how many people bad that weeds out. lotsa love -i ----- Original Message ----- From: Brandon Trumble To: Happy Kids ; ; Madhvi Dalal Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 8:43 PM Subject: Re: A Call Out to All Promoters (must read) > My thoughts are complicated so let me think... Ok this whole chit chat > about giving the rave scene a sort of cleansing or rebirth is a lot > easier said than done because no matter what all thoes thugs, g's, > sluts, and pimps that we always see at the many massives that we have > will always be there now. Money hungry promoters know that these > massives are a trend now and so they will keep on throwing all theses > massives till its a weekly thing. All we can do is seperate ourselvs > from that scene, Kinda make 2 scenes bring all the true ravers > underground and leave all thoes > wannabeLOOKHARDdress2impressOUT2GETcantdanceDONT- > LIKETHEMUSICdontunderstandallthisP.L.U.R.sh*tHOMIES with their > mainstream Clockwork, Coolworld events. After we redirect all the > ravers underground then we can reincarnate the real massives. The way > to go about doing that is to put all them undergrounders on a mailing > list and send A (1) flyer to them, some in the local underground > stores, and not put them in Mr. Rags or the other trendy little > clothing stores. So as a soon to be promoter I shall practice what I > preach! > > pLuR > Brandon > > --- Happy Kids wrote: > > lotta good questions here, friend. the one question > > that pops out to me is, > > "how can we put these changes in motion?" i've never > > been much of a mover > > and shaker, only a closet musician that comes out to > > play every so often. > > BUT, this i can say: > > > > an upheaval is not the answer. we can't neutralize > > the bad parts of the > > scene - only separate them and in time (short time) > > they will be weeded out. > > the way to bring it back to what it was is to start > > over. throw very small, > > quality, kick-ass parties that really whack people > > upside the head. it will > > make them realize the potential of the scene and > > strive to only participate > > in events of that magnitude. all it takes is a few > > events, a few promoters, > > a handful of ravers to realize that good parties can > > and should happen -> > > then they WILL happen. the more we talk about it, > > the more people might get > > it inside their heads. but the proof is in the > > pudding... > > > > ...throw some good parties people! > > > > note: i'm not claiming that there haven't been any > > good parties in the true > > underground spirit lately. i know there have been. > > just not enough - it used > > to be the standard. we can turn it around... > > > > > > lotsa love -i > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Madhvi Dalal > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 2:03 AM > > Subject: Re: A Call Out to All Promoters > > > > > > okay, i'm probably way late in responding to this > > post but i'd like to > > anyways. (it's a bit lengthy so i'm giving you > > forewarning in case you > > don't want to deal w/ it.) > > > > First of all, i want to commend the author of this > > post for being succinct > > and to the point. I liked the way you got your > > point across; you got > > straight to the heart of the matter. > > > > I'm sure we all agree that "raves" can be major > > moneymakers when planned > > out in that way. There are business heads > > everywhere looking to make the > > greatest profit from whatever they can, and the rave > > scene is not free from > > their grasp. Because of it's high "entertainment" > > quality, raves can be > > manipulated fully until they become this empty means > > to an end...and that's > > obviously why we see these parties w/out heart & > > soul being thrown and that > > lack the creativity that is spoken of. > > > > >there used to be a separation of the massive scene > > and the underground. > > > > Massives a long time ago used to be a rare rare > > thing, and > > small/medium-size parties were standard. MAssives > > were reserved for maybe > > things like special events or something like that > > which made them good to > > go to once in a while. Now it's the standard and i > > wonder if that's b/c > > there are just more partygoers or more promoters > > using the scene as a > > business venue? I dunno, maybe it's both? > > > > >all it takes is a little bit of money, a whole lot > > of love, and a > > >SHITLOAD of effort but >it's worth it. i think some > > of you old-schoolers > > >would agree. it can happen again. it's >up to us. > > let's do it! i'm going > > >to. > > > > It's my heart's dream to build a better future for > > the scene. We're > > responsible for taking it up and we taking it down > > don't you think? Why, > > when we're the ones who were present at it's > > inception and grew/are growing > > with it and helped it grow, WHY do we think we > > cannot affect or change the > > present situation? I think it can happen again too > > b/c really, what would > > my life be w/out this? It would not have the same > > meaning for me, it > > really wouldn't. I want to do it too, i am up for > > doing anything i can to > > affect the continuum; however, i must admit, i'm not > > sure exactly where it > > should start. How do you decide when change will > > take place...will it be > > the result of small changes here & there or major > > upheavals? And how do > > you get this factioned and not very organized > > "nation" of ours to actively > > participate? How do we unite and create solidarity > > among ourselves and > > recognize each other? Is this reaching too far > > beyond what is possible? I > > hope not b/c i'd like to think that this is the goal > > we are trying to move > > towards--but still, is it expecting too much? I'm > > sorry if I'm asking 20 > > questions here but I just think in terms of > > logistics of the thing and how > > we would consolidate...I think that we have not yet > > begun to understand our > > strength and power as a group; at least in terms of > > sheer numbers if > > nothing else. And that lack of realization keep us > > back as much as > > anything, i believe. > > > > I wonder what the magic key is that will come along > > and unlock this answer > > for us, what will bring us together and take us to > > that next level of > > society and being? Am i being too abstract here? I > > feel like I know that > > it's something that is quite a possibility...but how > > do we begin to forge > > it and try and retreat from all the commercialistic > > trend that surrounds it? > > > > Okay, i dunno if any of this makes sense at all...it > > does to me (obviously) > > but i hope i haven't done too poor a job in trying > > to get my thoughts > > across. My only excuse is that it's 2 AM and i'm a > > little out of it, but i > > still had to put my thoughts to paper, or keyboard, > > or whatever...y'know > > what i mean. > > > > hugs & love > > > > madhvi > > > > > > > > > > > > >lotsa love -i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 08:09:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21410 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 08:09:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 21402 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 08:09:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO next-mail.hightrend.com) (209.31.33.216) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 08:09:39 -0000 Received: from alldigitalclub.com (10.1.1.69 [10.1.1.69]) by next-mail.hightrend.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id K7KTBMHW; Thu, 27 May 1999 01:18:31 -0700 Message-ID: <3723BBE3.FD6F8B4E@alldigitalclub.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 01:05:41 +0000 From: Vitaly Golomb Reply-To: vitaly@alldigitalclub.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: A word on massives Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think a lot of people are misinterpreting "massives". From the promoter's perspective it is a chance to make something bigger then life come together after putting in hundreds or thousands of hours of work with a large crew of promoters, djays, lighting, sound, etc... And of course (no secret) it is a chance to make quite a large kick back. (But you won't stop using Windows because Bill Gates makes billions?) From the partiers' perspective it is often a chance to see performers otherwise imposible and rare as well as a high budget production that makes the party environment more appealing. The difference between a "massive" and a small party is easily compared to a club vs. concert. The ironic thing is that a lot of people complain about massives, after each time they go to them, you would think that they would learn a lesson and not go? Of course not, there are plenty of tricks out there to get the people to the party. I think some people take the scene too close to heart. If you don't like a specific type of party, then simple, don't go and just stick to things that make YOU feal good. Don't waste time going and don't waste time even thinking about things you don't like, you will be a much happier person! There is nothing sacred about parties, they don't need to be cherished, just go and have fun, there will always be more. In defence of massives. How can a promoter in thier right mind bring somebody like Paul van Dyk ($17,500) when the whole party won't even make that much? Point is, your paying the "vibe price" to see a legend and for me it's worth it because I'm in it for the music and NOTHING ELSE! Deep Thoughts, Vitaly From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 08:19:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24614 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 08:19:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 24598 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 08:19:41 -0000 Received: from mail-gw.pacbell.net (206.13.28.25) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 08:19:41 -0000 Received: from pacbell.net (ppp-209-79-196-218.scrm01.pacbell.net [209.79.196.218]) by mail-gw.pacbell.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA05976 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 01:19:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <374C57BE.5CFEB606@pacbell.net> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:21:19 -0700 From: dr_XeNo Organization: KDVS DJ/USDAFS Genetics Lab Asst. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-PBI-NC404 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: Star Wars Jungle mix demo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 'Lo there, folx...does anyone remember, or have saved, the site that guy posted that had his demo version of a dnb mix of the Emperor's theme? I totally forgot to bookmark it...thanx, and take care.... -- <<>> 90.3FM KDVS, Davis dr_XeNo@pacbell.net IM= drXeNo6 ICQ= #18463830 http://drxeno.cjb.net/ 90.3FM KDVS, Davis -----\/ Every Other Mon Nite, 10-Midnite: _*TeK-IndUced EuPHoriA*_ Listen On RealAudio and See Tha Calendar @ ------\/ http://tek.cjb.net/ <<<<<>>>>> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 08:23:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25625 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 08:23:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 25617 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 08:23:10 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 08:23:10 -0000 From: "Michael, The Red Stickman" Subject: Re: A word on massives To: vitaly@alldigitalclub.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.2.9b5 Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 01:23:44 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk . I understand your perspective, but there are some promoters out there, who are dedicated to bringing out larger-scale talent to a small underground crowd. One way they seem to be able to do this is by throwing a benefit party. Generally, in my limited experience, the DJ will play for a discounted price, or (we hope for) free. The promoters makes nothing. They just leave with the saitsfaction that they are giving back to the scene that helped define them, and made them who they are today. I cherish the good parties I have attended. Granted, they haven't been life-altering, but the social aspect of many of the good parties I have been to have played a major part in my development toward the person that I strive to eventually become. Michael o)-< On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 01:05:41 +0000 Vitaly Golomb spokeded: I think a lot of people are misinterpreting "massives". From the promoter's perspective it is a chance to make something bigger then life come together after putting in hundreds or thousands of hours of work with a large crew of promoters, djays, lighting, sound, etc... And of course (no secret) it is a chance to make quite a large kick back. (But you won't stop using Windows because Bill Gates makes billions?) From the partiers' perspective it is often a chance to see performers otherwise imposible and rare as well as a high budget production that makes the party environment more appealing. The difference between a "massive" and a small party is easily compared to a club vs. concert. The ironic thing is that a lot of people complain about massives, after each time they go to them, you would think that they would learn a lesson and not go? Of course not, there are plenty of tricks out there to get the people to the party. I think some people take the scene too close to heart. If you don't like a specific type of party, then simple, don't go and just stick to things that make YOU feal good. Don't waste time going and don't waste time even thinking about things you don't like, you will be a much happier person! There is nothing sacred about parties, they don't need to be cherished, just go and have fun, there will always be more. In defence of massives. How can a promoter in thier right mind bring somebody like Paul van Dyk ($17,500) when the whole party won't even make that much? Point is, your paying the "vibe price" to see a legend and for me it's worth it because I'm in it for the music and NOTHING ELSE! Deep Thoughts, Vitaly From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 13:06:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25527 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 13:06:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 25509 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 13:06:11 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 13:06:11 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.136] (kenya-136.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.136]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09644; Thu, 27 May 1999 06:05:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 06:26:24 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Thu) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello...today's quote is... It is necessary to hope...for hope itself is happiness. ---Samuel Johnson ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 15:11:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22184 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 15:11:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 22044 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 15:11:23 -0000 Received: from f211.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.102) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 15:11:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 45823 invoked by uid 0); 27 May 1999 15:10:56 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527151056.45822.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 27 May 1999 08:10:55 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: overpriced DJ's Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 08:10:55 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Whoa!! I just saw how vitaly posted about PVD being $17,500 that is a fucking complete waste of money!! and take it from me cause I have seen PVD at 1015 before and he is not all that.. He is technically good. So he did not suck but it was like going to any local party and hearing a trance DJ cause the tracks that he played are the Tracks that Every other Trance DJ in the bay area plays. I don't understand how these DJ's can charge these prices and people pay it. I mean I have read Mixmag and DJ and Jockey Slut and it explains how they get paid Gross amounts of $$ in Europe. That is just way to much to spend on one DJ specially one that is just going to play all of his own tracks. Shit might as well pop in the CD make a cardboard lifesize cutout and save yourself $17,470 Sorry just had to Rant on the prices some DJ's charge. Have a good Day Macadio From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 15:35:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6310 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 15:35:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 6239 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 15:35:09 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 15:35:09 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (552) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iDCYa01450; Thu, 27 May 1999 11:32:48 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <2ad51d01.247ebfa0@aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 11:32:48 EDT Subject: Re: overpriced DJ's To: macadio@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I agree. There is so much talent out there with djs that know how to play to the crowd and get them involved. Yet the big names are what draw people. And as a promoter you need draw. I have djs that I feel provide a much better show and have 10times the track selection yet I know they wont have the draw as someone like PVD. Carlos, Dj Soul Kid, David Hopper, and a lot of locals Ive seen and heard. Catch 22. Peace, M Groove On From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 15:54:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18544 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 15:54:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 18526 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 15:53:57 -0000 Received: from law2-f115.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.115) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 15:53:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 2068 invoked by uid 0); 27 May 1999 15:53:30 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527155330.2067.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 199.249.234.30 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 27 May 1999 08:53:30 PDT X-Originating-IP: [199.249.234.30] From: "P a r i s" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com Subject: The Rapping of drumnbass... Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 08:53:30 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_79f781d1_32c72d9b$1e08ad85" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_79f781d1_32c72d9b$1e08ad85 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_6964e6d6_32c72d9b$1e08ad85" ------=_NextPart_001_6964e6d6_32c72d9b$1e08ad85 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; What up peoples, This past week I was reading a interview with goldie and how he supports all aspects of promoting the music, Also the state of it and were it's at/going.. One point that was brought up is commercialized. They were talking about how do you think the media is handling this? I was talking with some of my friends and seeing what they thought of it..Some are for it & some are not..I think here in the US the media would abuse it, across sea they have respect for music. You can go into a bar listen to some funk one night, then the next night you have jazz instrumental with a lyricist on the mic, come back later on and find a Hardcore band, next nigh you have a turntablist warming up for a drumnbass dj....The US kinda abuse it now.. You can here the music in the newest video games to car commercials to chezzy soap oprah's(as it get's biger&biger)..The whole bay has been getting bigger and bigger with the sence,Which I think is good. I think the music needs to be promoted, but the media(??)dunno* they have there tendency to rape music..See what happen to rap...etc.. To all my fellow dj's(jew know who u are) and all junglist&jungal's.. What is your view? Do you think the media will abuse the music and sell it out or what...? *p-daddy* (((Paris))) Watch out for the *french exchange* ------=_NextPart_001_6964e6d6_32c72d9b$1e08ad85 Content-type: text/html
                 
What up peoples,


  This past week I was reading a interview with goldie and how he supports all aspects of promoting the music, Also the state of it and were it's at/going.. One point that was brought up is commercialized. They were talking about how do you think the media is handling this?

I was talking with some of my friends and seeing what they thought of it..Some are for it & some are not..I think here in the US the media would abuse it, across sea they have respect for music. You can go into a bar listen to some funk one night, then the next night you have jazz instrumental with a lyricist on the mic, come back later on and find a Hardcore band, next nigh you have a turntablist warming up for a drumnbass dj....The US kinda abuse it now.. You can here the music in the newest video games to car commercials to chezzy soap oprah's(as it get's biger&biger)..The whole bay has been getting bigger and bigger with the sence,Which I think is good. I think the music needs to be promoted, but the media(??)dunno* they have there tendency to rape music..See what happen to rap...etc.. To all my fellow dj's(jew know who u are) and all junglist&jungal's.. What is your view? Do you think the media will abuse the music and sell it out or what...?


*p-daddy*
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May 1999 15:58:31 -0000 Received: from ns2.divi.com (HELO kms.divi.com) (199.97.190.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 15:58:31 -0000 Received: from rmarm.divi.com by kms.divi.com (8.8.8/DiviCom-KMS) id IAA06945; Thu, 27 May 1999 08:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990527155755.00bc3468@kms> X-Sender: isaacl@kms X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 08:57:55 -0700 To: Elizabeth Traver From: Isaac Labugen Subject: Re: [Fwd: summarizing 18-up] Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think your missing the point. Yes, children of the sun was a non-permitted party, and if you attended then you would have received a letter at the map point explaining how it is an underground party and the need to be discreet so on and so fort. We also explained this on our voice mail. The reason you cannot attain permits for an event such as this is fairly simple. (1) It would cost just as much to purchase a permit for a 50 person party as it would for a 2nd/Jackson party ($3,500-6,500), (2) Most underground locations do not accommodate the fire and safety codes. Which basically makes it impossible to host a legal underground, which is why an underground is just that, an underground. As for the break up, we feel crummy! However, if the party was 18+, we probably would not have had to deal with a half dozen MOM's looking for there kids. You see, if your at least legal age you probably don't have to lie to your mommy and daddy, and their probably not going to come looking for you at any cost. This is what I call the bigger picture. I agree with Greg(s) comments when he said that not all minors are bad for the dance culture. Yet there are a large handful that are. When 6 moms start telling you the amount of problems there having controlling there kids because of these rave parties, and they know all of our locations- 2nd/jackson - homebase - maritime hall - big heart city - it will not be long before they start petitioning/lobbying the county of oakland (alameda) to make raves a thing of the past. Just wait for one more 16 year old to OD. Oh, and don't think these mothers are some washed up has beens, no these ladies work at companies like Oracle, IBM, Etc., very educated and business like. As for COTS staff and promoters, it is something we are currently evaluating and working on. Also, to clarify any misunderstandings, our July 9th party will be underground once again, and unfortunately 18+ up. Please understand where were coming from, it's for every ones benefit. peace & love, isaac:) ps. i do not consider myself as a promoter, just someone who enjoys entertaining other people. At 02:20 PM 5/26/99 -0800, you wrote: >None of this(the argument of 18+ parties) would be an issue if promoters >would get permits. Unless the venue only issued permits for 18+/21+ >etc. And of course, this is only pertaining to what people have >basically been mentioning in referance to COTS. > >The only logical reason that I can find a Crew not getting permits for a >party is the simple factor of Money. The Crew is willing to throw a >party that could possibly get broken up because they don't want to dish >out the extra cash for a permit. > >I do understand that parties are expensive- sound/lighting/the >venue/dj's and buying water or whatever else. But would that incident >have even taken place if the Promoters had permits?? People are ragging >on these little girls that phuked up their night of fun because they >were under age and the girls moms had been lied too, but why don't you >start questioning COTS?? I'm not trying to be a bitch but you need to >look at all sides of the situation. I have alot of respect for COTS so >don't take this as, I'm trying to put them down. > >Not only that, but how many of you that are all for 18+ parties knew >that there were atleast 5 or 6 kids that promote/set up and worked the >COTS party?? Not only COTS but also ( flyering atleast) for The >Gathering, Quest, ASR, and basically every FGE- So how can you put down >kids that helped to bring such a great thing together?? > >And to bring up another example of the 18+ dealio not working, when I >was almost 17 I was promoting for Culture, yes the 21+ at VSF, there are >things called --Borrowing a friends ID-- A situation which I'm sure >would occur if you started to card events. > >To finally bring this to conclusion. How many people have noticed that >Gatherings/Basics( compared to about 3 years ago and I'm sure even >before that), Harmony and Silver Pearl 'Quest' parties have doubled in >size and have gone up in cost. I'm definatly not saying that any of >these wonderful people are in it for the money, but I'm pretty damn sure >that they're happy when they make all of their money back and a little >extra(hehe...or however much) which, I'm sure will go forth to a future >party. I'm sure alot of productions will have problems with achieving >this if the all age factor isn't at hand. > >So thats my long ass view on this whole topic of discussion, shit >talkers are welcome, I love to hear the negative sides to my beliefs. > >Peace >Elizabeth > >leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: >> >> excuse me for oversimplifying... but here's what i'm getting from the >> posts... >> >> perspective #1 --- wah, wah, wah, you guys are mean, because i'm not 18 and >> it's not fair if i can't party too. (note, many of these are sent from email >> addresses that have direct raving and/or drug references, and contain >> interesting interpretations of the spelling of english language words, sad >> but true) >> >> perspective #2 -- if everyone can't come, then it's not raving, and besides >> kids are so creative, it wouldn't be the same without them. (i agree... in >> a perfect universe... unfortunately, i don't think many parents and/or >> police depts will agree, and then.... no one parties) >> >> perspective #3 --- those kiddiots are all useless anyway, and we don't need >> 'em. (fortunately, not much of that) >> >> perspective #4 -- (which is mine) ... much as i might miss the two or three >> mature under-18s out there... frankly, i rave in order to be able to dance >> ALLNIGHT without having ambulances pull up and the cops show up because >> someone's mommy called. and if that means that parties need to be limited >> to people who are *legally responsible* for themselves, then so be it. >> >> because raving is about the music and having a place to dance all night.... >> and while in a perfect world we might solve this problem more easily without >> creating b arriers to kiddies.... this is not a perfect world... >> >> and bottom line, maybe the adults need to look at how we have to think of >> protecting our right to party, even if it means breaking a few young hearts >> ... >> >> but remember kiddies.... if we can keep the scene alive this way, it will be >> there when you're old enough.... otherwise, at the rate we're going, you'll >> be waiting until you're 21 to go to clubs... that's three long years more. >> >> possible middle ground....how about... 18 up... unless your actual parent >> delivers you to the party with a letter of release and instructions on what >> to do for you in an emergency? (not sure if that's even legal in >> permitted events) -- and the buddy system idea is interesting, but not >> legally viable, there still would be liability, i think. >> >> i know this is harsh, but having someone's long-planned investment of time >> and energy disappear at midnight because someone wasn't supposed to be there >> is harsher. >> >> leslie >> (and hey, did someone imply that i dress candy? i hope not! distinctive >> costume, maybe, but i never wear plastic, only vintage sterling silver and >> quality jewelry... though i do wear fat pants!) >> >> Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 16:00:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22652 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 16:00:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 22637 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 16:00:04 -0000 Received: from fletch.fix.net (telkionish@206.190.71.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 16:00:04 -0000 Received: from localhost (telkionish@localhost) by fletch.fix.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA00452 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 09:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 09:00:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Adair To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: overpriced dj's and DJ ID Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I was looking through the archives trying to figure out who that DJ was that played between system 7 and Moby back at Big Top, and I stumbled across an old calendar.... Why is it that back in 97 you could throw parties for $25 with lineups below, and now you can barely get 1 or 2 of the names on these lineups for the same or more??? Has the price of talent gone up?? I still look back at Big Top with a big grin because it was my first massive.. With that lineup, who wouldnt though.. oh yeah.. and if anybody can pick the name of the DJ that played between system 7 and moby out of this lineup, i would appreciate it... Looking back, I didnt know who half of the people on this lineup were back then... Grooverider??? BT??? who are they?? hehehe oh yeah.. and cool world's cyberfest 97, which got cancelled at the last minute.. It is nice to see Keoki at the BOTTOM of the lineup... *HUGZ* Gregere Friday, September 12nd - Space Children presents Big Top the Largest and Only All Night Electronic Music Tour in American History Live: 808 State (uk), Moby (nyc), Eat Static (uk/wc debut), System 7 (uk), BT (ml), Banco De Gaia (uk), Empirion (uk/wc debut), Tha Cyclops (sf), Headrillaz (uk/wc debut), 909 Mind (sf), Medicine Drum (uk), Loop Guru (uk), Twelvetrees (uk/wc debut), ETI (sf), Beyond Race w/Steve Pagan (sf), DJs: Juan Atkins & Derrick May (4 decks), Kevin Saunderson (godfathers of techno/detroit), Grooverider (godfather of jungle/uk/wc debut), Joey Beltram (nyc), Michael Dog (uk), Ed Rush & Nico w/MC Rymetyme (uk), Jason Bentley (la), Bizz (tx), Jon Williams, Cesar, Graeme, Dutch & Treavor (4 decks), Abstract, Andre Lucero, Krista, Jon Santos. $25 advance tix at 16 outlets (call for info) & www.ticketweb.com, $30 at door. co-sponsored by Inner Eye. 4pm-7am, . Oakland Int'l Event Center, 691 85th Ave @ Baldwin (less than 1 mile from Oakland Coliseum BART). 415.541.5030 510.461.SPACE Saturday, September 27th - Coolworld presents Cyberfest 97 The Ultimate Dance Fantasy World Sneaker Pimps (live), Aphex Twin (live), Leftfield (dj), Hallucinogen (live), Supercharger-UK (live), Nizam (live), Media Sirkus (live), DJ Dag, Gavin Hardkiss, DJ Wagon Christ, EFX & Big Ed, Dutch, D.R.E.A.M., Byron Stingly & Kim English (live), Martha B (live), Angel Moraes, Richard "Humpty" Vission, Joe T Vanelli (Italy), Jay J, Mark Jellybeaer, Pete Avila, David Harness, Thomas Roberts, Steve Masters, Peshay (Metalheadz), DJ Wintermute (aka Aldo Bender), DJ Sifu & R.A.W. (LA), Star Eyes & UFO, Carl Cox (UK), Cirrus (live), Doc Martin, Supa DJ Keoki, Garth, Spun, Mark E.Quark, DRC, more tba. Advance tix $25 at Bass/Ticketmaster & www.ticketweb.com. 7pm-8am, . Alameda Naval Air Base, , Alameda. 415.979.4543 510.273.9542 408.235.1077 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 16:10:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28988 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 16:10:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 28978 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 16:10:24 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 16:10:24 -0000 Received: from WWoodliff@aol.com (7805) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vEQSa03098 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 12:09:41 -0400 (EDT) From: WWoodliff@aol.com Message-ID: <57f1b107.247ec845@aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 12:09:41 EDT Subject: A Call Out to the Rest of the Promoters To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk O.K. I got a lot of responses to the first post but unfortunately they were all from promoters who already practice what I would call "ethical promotion." Now I don't want to have to start calling people out individually and I don't want to turn this into something that it is not but there are some very big promoters out there who have kept silent through this whole debate. I would really like to know whether or not the safety of these kids and the safety of our scene is more important then your bottom line and what you are going to do about it. I have put the original post at the bottom just in case you have forgotten or no longer have it. Much Love JonPaul I wrote this down in my last post but it was pretty long and I wouln't blame anyone if they didn't make it this far. Making Parties 18&up isn't a solution because like so many of you have pointed out they do bring an energy that would be missed without there presents. But it is the promoting directly to these kids that brings them out in such large numbers that needs to be stopped, I am not saying this is the answer but it is a platform to start off with. Kids will still get a hold of flyers and hear about the parties but until you stop promoting to the high schools and putting out flyers in every available corner you are the cause of the problem. Like Hak said what is more important the $30 each of these kids bring in or their lives and their future. You know better, would you want your son or daughter exposed to this at such a young age? I want to hear your answers. I think everybody deserves to hear why it is that you are promoting at high schools and strip malls. ! Just currious to see if you will respond JonPaul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 16:38:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19068 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 16:38:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 18917 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 16:38:09 -0000 Received: from mailgate.cadence.com (158.140.2.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 16:38:09 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.cadence.com (8.8.5/8.6.8) id JAA05726 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 09:38:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.Cadence.COM(158.140.128.33) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (mjr-v1.2) id xma927823084.005701; Thu, 27 May 99 09:38:04 -0700 Received: from urbanassault.org (d15814038120 [158.140.38.120]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23337 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 09:38:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <374D7518.E5400AE@urbanassault.org> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 09:38:48 -0700 From: Siphon Reply-To: siphon@urbanassault.org Organization: Urban Assault X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: BSP: applesauce 5.30.99 References: <374CEF83.B1A9579C@urbanassault.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ooops. I forgot to mention its 21+. Hope to see some of you there. Come up and introduce your self. respects, Siphon Siphon wrote: > > san jose 5.30 2.pm till 2.am > > jungle dj's > symplex > siphon > honey b > sifu > raw > siren > ufo > sage > hak > > + trance > scott dc > keith edwards > skyscraper > oddeci > matthew > > +funky beats > mei lwun > darkhorse > m3 > chris haycock > alvaro > stuart > > +house > jonene > tasho > preston > rasoul > chris perrins > harry who? > > free b4 4.pm > $10.00 after > ecco 87 n.san pedro > 408.793.0328 -- _____________________ S i p h o n Urban Assault [99] info: 408.882.5064 http://www.urbanassault.org From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 16:44:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26178 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 16:44:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 26170 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 16:44:15 -0000 Received: from ewey-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO ewey.excite.com) (198.3.99.191) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 16:44:15 -0000 Received: from scorch.excite.com ([199.172.152.240]) by ewey.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990527164427.FVKU17804.ewey@scorch.excite.com> for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 09:44:27 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Sol party, I'll be at the door.... Message-Id: <927823425.21585.309@excite.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 09:43:45 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok... in the 18-up discussions, i volunteered to be the "door id-checker" for the first promoter who would volunteer to do this... and has greg said in his post yesterday about sol on june 26th, harmony will be the first crew to voluntarily do an 18-up event.... and, hmmm, no surprise since i love working the harmony line whenever i can anyway... i will be there at the door... so, i'm looking forward to it, and while i know that there are going to be some who are very disappointed... but bear with us here, support the effort to help keep the scene alive and well for you all.... love, leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 16:48:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1038 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 16:48:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 1030 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 16:48:42 -0000 Received: from mailgate.cadence.com (158.140.2.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 16:48:42 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.cadence.com (8.8.5/8.6.8) id JAA09873; Thu, 27 May 1999 09:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub2.Cadence.COM(158.140.128.8) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (mjr-v1.2) id xma927823719.009857; Thu, 27 May 99 09:48:39 -0700 Received: from urbanassault.org (d15814038120 [158.140.38.120]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28966; Thu, 27 May 1999 09:48:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <374D7792.3973AE6F@urbanassault.org> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 09:49:22 -0700 From: Siphon Reply-To: siphon@urbanassault.org Organization: Urban Assault X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: leslie.ayres@excite.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Sol party, I'll be at the door.... References: <927823425.21585.309@excite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Actually - our last Viberation party was 18+. _____________________ S i p h o n Urban Assault [99] info: 408.882.5064 http://www.urbanassault.org leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > > ok... in the 18-up discussions, i volunteered to be the "door id-checker" > for the first promoter who would volunteer to do this... > > and has greg said in his post yesterday about sol on june 26th, harmony will > be the first crew to voluntarily do an 18-up event.... and, hmmm, no > surprise since i love working the harmony line whenever i can anyway... i > will be there at the door... > > so, i'm looking forward to it, and while i know that there are going to be > some who are very disappointed... but bear with us here, support the effort > to help keep the scene alive and well for you all.... > > love, > leslie > > Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 17:07:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12835 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 17:07:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 12817 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 17:07:18 -0000 Received: from f254.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.145) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 17:07:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 56191 invoked by uid 0); 27 May 1999 17:06:52 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527170652.56190.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.31.5.234 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 27 May 1999 10:06:51 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.31.5.234] From: "Digital Devil" To: Markis1012@aol.com, pacific_united_ravers@yahoo.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Parties at 2nd & jax Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 10:06:51 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone remember 16th & Harrison?-or Richmond Civic Center? those were the spots!! **Raf*One Lives!** >From: Markis1012@aol.com >To: pacific_united_ravers@yahoo.com >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Parties at 2nd & jax >Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:07:16 EDT > > FINALLY someone with some sense! I TOTALLY agree with you. I would go to >Maritime before 2nd and jax anyday. But I think the best locations to go to >are either 78minna & homebase. I know I will receive death threats for that >comment but OH WELL. > >markis(junglejunkie) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 17:18:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21475 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 17:18:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 21454 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 17:18:50 -0000 Received: from pop05.iname.net (165.251.8.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 17:18:50 -0000 Received: from tar-and-gravel ([206.25.144.218]) by pop05.iname.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id NAA10015 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:18:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990527100950.039b9f00@shell4.ba.best.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 10:18:45 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: ry-N Subject: Re: overpriced DJ's In-Reply-To: <19990527151056.45822.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I beg to differ ... I saw PvD at Nikita ... and ummmm all I can say is WOW .. and I don't get wowed too easily ... maybe its just because he is so damn cute .. but wait ... Paul Oakenfold wowed me too ..and he looks like a lil monkey. Hell I dunno ... all I can say is both of those guys spun sets that blew me away and very few DJs have been able to do that. I do agree however that the discrepancy in the amount he is payed vs. a local DJ probably doesn't fall in line with the discrepancy in skills and/or track selection. I don't think he mixes beats $17,200 better than Happy Kid Ian or Macadio, but what are you gonna do ... he is famous. I mean ... I'm way better looking than any of the backstreet boys ... and I dance better too ... but no one is paying me millions of dollars to come lip-sync for a bunch of screaming prepubescant girls. The best I can do is $50 bucks to lap dance for a bunch of old men ... but I digress ... Its all about fame baby ... ryan At 08:10 AM 5/27/99 , Macadio G. wrote: >Whoa!! > >I just saw how vitaly posted about PVD being $17,500 that is a >fucking complete waste of money!! and take it from me cause I have >seen PVD at 1015 before and he is not all that.. He is technically >good. So he did not suck but it was like going to any local party and >hearing a trance DJ cause the tracks that he played are the Tracks >that Every other Trance DJ in the bay area plays. I don't understand >how these DJ's can charge these prices and people pay it. I mean I >have read Mixmag and DJ and Jockey Slut and it explains how they get >paid Gross amounts of $$ in Europe. That is just way to much to spend >on one DJ specially one that is just going to play all of his own >tracks. Shit might as well pop in the CD make a cardboard lifesize >cutout and save yourself $17,470 Sorry just had to Rant on the >prices some DJ's charge. > >Have a good Day > >Macadio > > ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 17:19:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22199 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 17:19:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 22191 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 17:19:23 -0000 Received: from firstclass.monterey.edu (HELO mail.monterey.edu) (198.189.5.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 17:19:23 -0000 Message-id: Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 10:17:28 -0700 Subject: Re(2): Sol party, I'll be at the door.... To: siphon@urbanassault.org Cc: leslie.ayres@excite.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu (Robert Delarosa) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk siphon@urbanassault.org writes: >Actually - our last Viberation party was 18+. Mmmmmmmm....that was a good party! Banzai! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 17:27:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28164 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 17:27:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 28131 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 17:27:07 -0000 Received: from dilbert.ucdavis.edu (root@169.237.105.33) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 17:27:07 -0000 Received: from localhost (sschumac@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dilbert.ucdavis.edu (8.9.3/UCD3.13.10) with ESMTP id KAA01251 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 10:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 10:27:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Silvia Schumacher X-Sender: sschumac@dilbert.ucdavis.edu To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: overpriced DJ's In-Reply-To: <19990527151056.45822.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That's unfortunately what the European scene does to you and it is totally ridiculous... Dj's are "stars" in Europe... As far as I know they charge these amounts of money for gigs at raves which are actually festivals in Europe (at least 10 floors, at least 5000 attendants). They might charge less at clubs in Europe which are more underground and can accomodate only hundreds of people... Whatever just my two cents and what I know... Well, if PvD already charges $17.500 I wonder what Sven Vaeth might charge... Wow... I don't even want to think about it... Love, Silvia On Thu, 27 May 1999, Macadio G. wrote: > Whoa!! > > I just saw how vitaly posted about PVD being $17,500 that is a > fucking complete waste of money!! and take it from me cause I have > seen PVD at 1015 before and he is not all that.. He is technically > good. So he did not suck but it was like going to any local party and > hearing a trance DJ cause the tracks that he played are the Tracks > that Every other Trance DJ in the bay area plays. I don't understand > how these DJ's can charge these prices and people pay it. I mean I > have read Mixmag and DJ and Jockey Slut and it explains how they get > paid Gross amounts of $$ in Europe. That is just way to much to spend > on one DJ specially one that is just going to play all of his own > tracks. Shit might as well pop in the CD make a cardboard lifesize > cutout and save yourself $17,470 Sorry just had to Rant on the > prices some DJ's charge. > > Have a good Day > > Macadio > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 17:38:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6099 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 17:38:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 6051 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 17:37:57 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 17:37:57 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-78.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.78]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA15474 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 10:37:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990527161325.006ffef0@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 11:13:25 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: NRR yeah Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah so finals are almost over and i am going to go back home for a bit so this is just my last post till i come back and lurk :) E. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 17:49:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18111 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 17:49:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 17932 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 17:49:30 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 17:49:30 -0000 Received: from Sera13@aol.com (14415) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vUGYa02742 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:48:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Sera13@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 13:48:33 EDT Subject: Question about Sunset!!!!Please Read and get back to me!!!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I was wondering if there was a party this sunday.....hmmmm? Please get back to me ASAP. Cherries, Sera From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 18:05:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28799 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 18:04:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 28352 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 18:02:40 -0000 Received: from web204.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.104) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 18:02:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527180513.17105.rocketmail@web204.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.103.212.175] by web204.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 27 May 1999 11:05:13 PDT Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 11:05:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Ozbourne Subject: Re: Sol party, I'll be at the door.... To: leslie.ayres@excite.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The two things I find funny about what you are saying. 1) When I first moved here and signed onto this list, I thought that you were an intelligent, older, kinda "rave Momma" style person. Now it seems that all you do is promote for Harmony. 2) Since I moved up here, the one party that I have gone to twice that has had the most young high kids is Harmony. I just find both of these things very ironic when associated with the post you made below. l8, J. --- leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > ok... in the 18-up discussions, i volunteered to be > the "door id-checker" > for the first promoter who would volunteer to do > this... > > and has greg said in his post yesterday about sol on > june 26th, harmony will > be the first crew to voluntarily do an 18-up > event.... and, hmmm, no > surprise since i love working the harmony line > whenever i can anyway... i > will be there at the door... > > so, i'm looking forward to it, and while i know that > there are going to be > some who are very disappointed... but bear with us > here, support the effort > to help keep the scene alive and well for you > all.... > > love, > leslie > > > > > Get your free, private email at > http://mail.excite.com/ > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 18:15:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8133 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 18:15:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 8039 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 18:15:23 -0000 Received: from corpmail1.jps.net (209.63.224.250) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 18:15:23 -0000 Received: from kenny (209-239-201-102.oak.jps.net [209.239.201.102]) by corpmail1.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA18607; Thu, 27 May 1999 11:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <007101bea86d$3aa499c0$77019665@cuhelp.com> From: "Jay" To: "Silvia Schumacher" , References: Subject: Re: overpriced DJ's Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 11:17:49 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It wasn't too long ago that someone posted on the so-cal list, that they tried to book Crystal Method and were shocked at the price tag. According to them, they want $25,000 to play... plus you have to rent all of the equipment they want, fly them out first class (them and a few groupies) and pay for their stay in your town. I have heard PvD and Crystal Method, and I wouldn't pay that much for either of them... but they are people movers, especially the people who don't party at all and happen to see "CRYSTAL METHOD Live" up somewhere. They will pay the $25 bucks to go see one artist, even though they have no idea who the other people at the party are. btw: PvD was good, not GREAT... but good... a little to _hard_ for me, but that seems to be the German style. I love Crystal Method though (I know ... I know, "weak"... hehe), their live performances kick ass. My .02 Love & Music, -Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: Silvia Schumacher To: Sent: Thursday, May 27, 1999 10:27 AM Subject: Re: overpriced DJ's > That's unfortunately what the European scene does to you and it is > totally ridiculous... Dj's are "stars" in Europe... As far as I know they > charge these amounts of money for gigs at raves which are actually > festivals in Europe (at least 10 floors, at least 5000 attendants). They > might charge less at clubs in Europe which are more underground and can > accomodate only hundreds of people... Whatever just my two cents and what > I know... Well, if PvD already charges $17.500 I wonder what Sven Vaeth > might charge... Wow... I don't even want to think about it... > > Love, Silvia > > On Thu, 27 May 1999, Macadio G. wrote: > > > Whoa!! > > > > I just saw how vitaly posted about PVD being $17,500 that is a > > fucking complete waste of money!! and take it from me cause I have > > seen PVD at 1015 before and he is not all that.. He is technically > > good. So he did not suck but it was like going to any local party and > > hearing a trance DJ cause the tracks that he played are the Tracks > > that Every other Trance DJ in the bay area plays. I don't understand > > how these DJ's can charge these prices and people pay it. I mean I > > have read Mixmag and DJ and Jockey Slut and it explains how they get > > paid Gross amounts of $$ in Europe. That is just way to much to spend > > on one DJ specially one that is just going to play all of his own > > tracks. Shit might as well pop in the CD make a cardboard lifesize > > cutout and save yourself $17,470 Sorry just had to Rant on the > > prices some DJ's charge. > > > > Have a good Day > > > > Macadio > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 18:20:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14220 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 18:20:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 13927 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 18:19:56 -0000 Received: from ns2.divi.com (HELO kms.divi.com) (199.97.190.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 18:19:56 -0000 Received: from rmarm.divi.com by kms.divi.com (8.8.8/DiviCom-KMS) id LAA27222; Thu, 27 May 1999 11:19:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990527181926.00be4008@kms> X-Sender: isaacl@kms X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 11:19:26 -0700 To: Jason Ozbourne From: Isaac Labugen Subject: Re: Sol party, I'll be at the door.... Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well I think you got leslie all back words, but oh well- every ones entitled to their own opinion. I think the reason you hear excitement in leslie's voice regarding harmony is because harmony parties are the sickest vibiest shin-digs around in this scene. Go to harmony on June 26 and see how many young kids you see and maybe you'll understand these treads better. isaac:) At 11:05 AM 5/27/99 -0700, you wrote: >The two things I find funny about what you are saying. > >1) When I first moved here and signed onto this list, >I thought that you were an intelligent, older, kinda >"rave Momma" style person. Now it seems that all you >do is promote for Harmony. >2) Since I moved up here, the one party that I have >gone to twice that has had the most young high kids is >Harmony. > >I just find both of these things very ironic when >associated with the post you made below. > >l8, >J. > >--- leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: >> ok... in the 18-up discussions, i volunteered to be >> the "door id-checker" >> for the first promoter who would volunteer to do >> this... >> >> and has greg said in his post yesterday about sol on >> june 26th, harmony will >> be the first crew to voluntarily do an 18-up >> event.... and, hmmm, no >> surprise since i love working the harmony line >> whenever i can anyway... i >> will be there at the door... >> >> so, i'm looking forward to it, and while i know that >> there are going to be >> some who are very disappointed... but bear with us >> here, support the effort >> to help keep the scene alive and well for you >> all.... >> >> love, >> leslie >> >> >> >> >> Get your free, private email at >> http://mail.excite.com/ >> > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 18:20:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15042 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 18:20:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 14833 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 18:20:22 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 18:20:22 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com (7819) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vWVJa02571 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 14:19:36 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:19:35 EDT Subject: Re: Re: Sol party, I'll be at the door.... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_d64ef8e9.247ee6b7_boundary" X-Mailer: Netmail sub 2 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_d64ef8e9.247ee6b7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <<1) When I first moved here and signed onto this list, I thought that you were an intelligent, older, kinda "rave Momma" style person. Now it seems that all you do is promote for Harmony.>> WHOA! That's not cool to insult someones intelligents based upon there opinions.. keep this kinda stuff off the list and respond to her privately please <3 amber r --part1_d64ef8e9.247ee6b7_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: JUNGurlE@aol.com From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Full-name: JUNGurlE Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:18:48 EDT Subject: Re: Re: Sol party, I'll be at the door.... To: eigthoz@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Netmail sub 2 <<1) When I first moved here and signed onto this list, I thought that you were an intelligent, older, kinda "rave Momma" style person. Now it seems that all you do is promote for Harmony.>> WHOA! That's not cool to insult someones intelligents based upon there opinions.. keep this kinda stuff off the list and respond to her privately please <3 amber r --part1_d64ef8e9.247ee6b7_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 18:28:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18798 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 18:27:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 18749 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 18:27:20 -0000 Received: from web503.yahoomail.com (128.11.68.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 18:27:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527183233.29197.rocketmail@web503.yahoomail.com> Received: from [130.86.15.19] by web503.yahoomail.com; Thu, 27 May 1999 11:32:33 PDT Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 11:32:33 -0700 (PDT) From: What is a dic-so bunny Subject: KRR: Finals & Metropolis!!! To: "Da Sack A Tomatoes ." , "Hib Ta Da Hibbidy Hop" "and da Boccoli" Biff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is just another pointless email to the list...I'M DONE WITH FINALS!!!!!!!! OH, the feeling of relief to put your pen down and walk out of that cold, quiet room!!!!! Well, I hope to see everyone, and I'm sure EVERYONE will be there...at METROPOLIS this weekend! I haven't raved since March......I feel so deprived! GOOD LUCK TO THE REST OF YOU STILL TAKING TESTS!!! I'm going home now...time to listen to a little jungle...oh yeah....... sherri ;p === Fievel and Dinky Little SUCK DONKEY From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 18:29:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22037 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 18:29:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 21666 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 18:29:47 -0000 Received: from web703.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.23) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 18:29:47 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527183000.26965.rocketmail@web703.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.242.20.101] by web703.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 27 May 1999 11:30:00 PDT Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 11:30:00 -0700 (PDT) From: mike bolger Subject: Re: Re: Sol party, I'll be at the door.... To: JUNGurlE@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk - > WHOA! That's not cool to insult someones > intelligents based upon there > opinions.. huh ? keep this kinda stuff off the list and > respond to her privately > please > > <3 amber r > > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > From: JUNGurlE@aol.com > Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:18:48 EDT > Subject: Re: Re: Sol party, I'll be at the door.... > To: eigthoz@yahoo.com > > > <<1) When I first moved here and signed onto this > list, > I thought that you were an intelligent, older, kinda > "rave Momma" style person. Now it seems that all you > do is promote for Harmony.>> > > > WHOA! That's not cool to insult someones > intelligents based upon there > opinions.. keep this kinda stuff off the list and > respond to her privately > please > > <3 amber r > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 18:32:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26246 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 18:32:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 26229 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 18:31:57 -0000 Received: from fortune-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO fortune.excite.com) (198.3.99.203) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 18:31:57 -0000 Received: from flash.excite.com ([199.172.152.79]) by fortune.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990527183127.GGOG13604.fortune@flash.excite.com>; Thu, 27 May 1999 11:31:27 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: siphon@urbanassault.org, leslie.ayres@excite.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Sol party, I'll be at the door.... Message-Id: <927829886.11523.154@excite.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 11:31:26 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yep, that's true.... ( i got to check ids for a shift on that one too, though i have to say adam was the definite i.d. man par excellence!).... but that was a place that required that, i think (right? since there was a bar attached to the place?).... i think the sol party may be one where it's not a requirement of the space... i do believe. leslie On Thu, 27 May 1999 09:49:22 -0700, Siphon wrote: > Actually - our last Viberation party was 18+. > > _____________________ > S i p h o n > Urban Assault [99] > info: 408.882.5064 > http://www.urbanassault.org > > > > > leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > > > > ok... in the 18-up discussions, i volunteered to be the "door id-checker" > > for the first promoter who would volunteer to do this... > > > > and has greg said in his post yesterday about sol on june 26th, harmony will > > be the first crew to voluntarily do an 18-up event.... and, hmmm, no > > surprise since i love working the harmony line whenever i can anyway... i > > will be there at the door... > > > > so, i'm looking forward to it, and while i know that there are going to be > > some who are very disappointed... but bear with us here, support the effort > > to help keep the scene alive and well for you all.... > > > > love, > > leslie > > > > Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 18:33:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28271 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 18:33:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 28076 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 18:33:18 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 18:33:18 -0000 Received: from BluSnday@aol.com (550) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rKFVa19847; Thu, 27 May 1999 14:31:30 -0400 (EDT) From: BluSnday@aol.com Message-ID: <967ea4fc.247ee981@aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:31:29 EDT Subject: Re: Sol party, I'll be at the door.... To: eigthoz@yahoo.com, leslie.ayres@excite.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Have you even met Leslie? Actually sat down and talked with her? I have a feeling that if you ever do, you may want to retract the statement you just made... *steph* In a message dated 5/27/99 11:07:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, eigthoz@yahoo.com writes: > The two things I find funny about what you are saying. > > 1) When I first moved here and signed onto this list, > I thought that you were an intelligent, older, kinda > "rave Momma" style person. Now it seems that all you > do is promote for Harmony. > 2) Since I moved up here, the one party that I have > gone to twice that has had the most young high kids is > Harmony. > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 18:43:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9155 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 18:43:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 9020 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 18:43:31 -0000 Received: from fortune-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO fortune.excite.com) (198.3.99.203) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 18:43:31 -0000 Received: from ringo.excite.com ([199.172.152.145]) by fortune.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990527184303.GHTW13604.fortune@ringo.excite.com>; Thu, 27 May 1999 11:43:03 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: "Jason Ozbourne" , leslie.ayres@excite.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Sol party, I'll be at the door.... Message-Id: <927830583.15351.650@excite.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 11:43:03 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk there are two things i find funny about what *you* are saying, jason. 1) i think it's funny that you find the fact that i am who i am (which is in reality older, intelligent, and destined to remain the "fairy rave mom") inconsistent with the fact that i help out with harmony parties... i sometimes help out with other parties too... but greg is a very good friend of mine, and his crew are some of the hardest working folks in the scene and i love them a lot. i am not, however, a *promoter* for harmony... at least in my definition of the word "promoter" ... which is that i don't put up my money, do major organizing, or hand out flyers -- for harmony's or anyone else's events.... they're not my parties, i just help in the ways that i can. and greg has my respect and my support... he's earned it. 2. i don't know when you moved here or what other parties you've gone to, so ... and yes, i see lots of young kids at harmony (i think thats even more reason to respect greg's willingness to see if over-18 makes a positive difference, since he knows lots of people will be disappointed) ... and they've gotten younger and younger over the past four or five years that i've attended harmony partiesl, but the most young people i actually ever saw at a party was an event at home base, not a harmony party. i see them lots of places, though, because i go to lots of kinds of parties... though yes, harmony does traditionally attract a young candy element. sorry if this seems ironic... maybe we'll meet in person somewhere and i'll make more sense to you? leslie On Thu, 27 May 1999 11:05:13 -0700 (PDT), Jason Ozbourne wrote: > The two things I find funny about what you are saying. > > 1) When I first moved here and signed onto this list, > I thought that you were an intelligent, older, kinda > "rave Momma" style person. Now it seems that all you > do is promote for Harmony. > 2) Since I moved up here, the one party that I have > gone to twice that has had the most young high kids is > Harmony. > > I just find both of these things very ironic when > associated with the post you made below. > > l8, > J. > > --- leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > > ok... in the 18-up discussions, i volunteered to be > > the "door id-checker" > > for the first promoter who would volunteer to do > > this... > > > > and has greg said in his post yesterday about sol on > > june 26th, harmony will > > be the first crew to voluntarily do an 18-up > > event.... and, hmmm, no > > surprise since i love working the harmony line > > whenever i can anyway... i > > will be there at the door... > > > > so, i'm looking forward to it, and while i know that > > there are going to be > > some who are very disappointed... but bear with us > > here, support the effort > > to help keep the scene alive and well for you > > all.... > > > > love, > > leslie > > > > > > > > > > Get your free, private email at > > http://mail.excite.com/ > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 18:45:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12605 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 18:45:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 12398 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 18:45:53 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 18:45:53 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527184426.23953.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [208.1.144.64] by web4; Thu, 27 May 1999 11:44:26 PDT Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 11:44:26 -0700 (PDT) From: pj fuzzy Subject: dancing away my cares- To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk thanks to those who responded. its nice to know you care :) actually I went out to liquid last night. they have a goa trace style night there wed(at least that's what I call it.) well a night of drinking and dancing has had at least the brief effect of making me feel better for the time being. anyone know of a good electronic repairman in SF- I need to get my echoplex fixed. PJ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 18:52:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18332 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 18:52:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 18094 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 18:52:16 -0000 Received: from seidc.sei.com (198.202.174.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 18:52:16 -0000 Received: from water.sei.com (water.sei.com [198.202.174.76]) by seidc.sei.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA28128; Thu, 27 May 1999 11:37:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Martin Randall Received: (from kk@localhost) by water.sei.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA09046; Thu, 27 May 1999 11:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905271837.LAA09046@water.sei.com> Subject: Re: Sol party, I'll be at the door.... To: eigthoz@yahoo.com (Jason Ozbourne) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 11:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Cc: leslie.ayres@excite.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <19990527180513.17105.rocketmail@web204.mail.yahoo.com> from "Jason Ozbourne" at May 27, 99 11:05:13 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > > The two things I find funny about what you are saying. > > 1) When I first moved here and signed onto this list, > I thought that you were an intelligent, older, kinda > "rave Momma" style person. Now it seems that all you > do is promote for Harmony. whoa - you'd better think twice about saying things like that!! leslie can speak for herself, but she does a LOT more than just promote for harmony! > 2) Since I moved up here, the one party that I have > gone to twice that has had the most young high kids is > Harmony. two things: a) as has been noted, harmony throws the sickest parties around, which is what keeps the kids coming - they know the party is going to be phat, and they are guaranteed a good time b) harmony has been affected by irresponsible behavior as much as (if not more than) other crews, especially because of their huge draw. the number of young high kids has not gone unnoticed by the harmony crew - this is why greg is taking a stand to try to address the problem, even though he knows it'll cost him in attendance, in order to try to do something about the problem! - martin =] > > I just find both of these things very ironic when > associated with the post you made below. > > l8, > J. > > --- leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > > ok... in the 18-up discussions, i volunteered to be > > the "door id-checker" > > for the first promoter who would volunteer to do > > this... > > > > and has greg said in his post yesterday about sol on > > june 26th, harmony will > > be the first crew to voluntarily do an 18-up > > event.... and, hmmm, no > > surprise since i love working the harmony line > > whenever i can anyway... i > > will be there at the door... > > > > so, i'm looking forward to it, and while i know that > > there are going to be > > some who are very disappointed... but bear with us > > here, support the effort > > to help keep the scene alive and well for you > > all.... > > > > love, > > leslie > > > > > > > > > > Get your free, private email at > > http://mail.excite.com/ > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 18:57:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21307 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 18:56:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 21275 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 18:56:57 -0000 Received: from law2-f63.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.63) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 18:56:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 88050 invoked by uid 0); 27 May 1999 18:56:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527185628.88049.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.215.220.101 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 27 May 1999 11:56:27 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.215.220.101] From: "A Captivating Mix of Energies" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: acmeproductions@hotmail.com Subject: ACME's promotion perspective. Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 11:56:27 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, we're back. ACME Productions took a hiatus during the school year, as our studies always precede our parties... This summer we plan to get a few small parties off in the low-key way that most everyone loves. And I just wanted to take this opportunity to give my two cents on this promotion issue: Just a month ago we threw a party called 'ONE' up in Berkeley. As always we promoted very selectively, believing this to be the only way to ensure a good vibe (and it's not even insured then). We had about 85-90 people show up, which was damn good for a Tuesday night and ten days of promotion, but we failed to reach the break-even point of 110 people. So we lost money, so what? Well, I think this is the driving force behind the overcharging and reckless promoting that seems to be the complaint at hand. If the promoters could rid themselves of the fear of losing their ass over a party, and get back to where the focus should be (good music, good people, good lovin') then the party would be a success by it's own nature. A wise man in the ways of raving once told me this: "The party comes from the heart of the promoter. If you go at it with good selfless intentions, then it'll go off. But if you're wrapped up in things like money or fame, then it'll show." Most of you will find it hard to believe that this was our own Vlad @ feelgood entertainment. Kinda backwards, eh? Back to the point, three things will bring about this 'change' in the scene that is so desired: 1) Promoters must be true to their beliefs, and be up-front about them to their following. This way everyone is on the same page. 2) Ravers need to go to the kind of parties they LOVE... not just the ones they like. This is like selective boycotting in a way, as the good crews will shape up, and the others will ship out. 3) Promoters: Chill out. When I first got into this I wanted to have the biggest badest party ever. Not that I'm a seasoned promoter by any means, but we need to take our time with this change so as to not topple the existing scene, but to change the existing structure to what we love. That being said, I'd like to extend our helping arms to any promoters who are in the quest of this. A Captivating Mix of Energies will be putting 2-5 parties together before the school-year starts again and we go back to our caves. So, I wish us all a good summer, and party hard :) Peace and Love, Dave A message with Peace and Love, 'A Captivating Mix of Energies' (a.k.a. ACME Productions) (510) 869-3769 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 19:25:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14395 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 19:25:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 14387 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 19:25:36 -0000 Received: from web703.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.23) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 19:25:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527192549.8223.rocketmail@web703.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.242.20.101] by web703.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 27 May 1999 12:25:49 PDT Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 12:25:49 -0700 (PDT) From: mike bolger Subject: free dubtribe To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i guess dubtribe is doing a free live in-store at disel downtown on saturday from 1-7pm. i want to say that it's some of the dubtribe people spinning and not performing live, but i can't say for sure. that's also the same day as the free vertigo on the beach, which is a pretty bold party move considering how grim the weather has been in my back yard lately, AND there's the burning man beach burn later that day on the same beach AND there's that free mad love outdoor daytime party in the east bay. and then on sunday there's Carnival in the mission with some drum and bass dj's spinning and i guess there's also suppose to be a beat down sundays. i don't go to beat down sundays so i don't have any more info than that. and then on monday there's a free psycofunkdiscodelic on the beach with markie, galen, and eti, among others. so that's a grand total of over 6 free parties ((or at least 6 that i know of)) in one 3 day weekend. a 3 day weekend that sunset has taken off and there are no organic/out-a-sight parties in the park. you could be broke as fuck, you could be homeless, and you can still pick between 6 free parties to hit up this weekend. not bad for a dead scene. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 19:33:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19618 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 19:33:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 19609 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 19:33:27 -0000 Received: from jmail.co.jp (HELO calvin.iac.co.jp) (209.85.120.230) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 19:33:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 24749 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 19:33:43 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO jmail.co.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 May 1999 19:33:43 -0000 From: "ProtoTypical Chris" Reply-to: prototype@raveaddict.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 12:33:43 GST -1080 Subject: Re: free dubtribe Message-id: <374d9e17.60a9.0@jmail.co.jp> X-User-Info: 171.133.216.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >that's also the same day as the free vertigo on the beach, which is a >pretty bold party move considering how grim the weather has been in my >back yard lately, AND there's the burning man beach burn later that day >on the same beach AND there's that free mad love outdoor daytime party >in the east bay. When and where is this outdoor party in the East Bay? -=ProtoTypical Chris=- >><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><><><><><><><><><><> Like my COOL email address? Get one like it FREE at http://www.MUSICOSM.com ! Visit today! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 19:35:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21988 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 19:35:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 21752 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 19:35:17 -0000 Received: from law-f191.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.101) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 19:35:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 61343 invoked by uid 0); 27 May 1999 19:34:54 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527193454.61342.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.162.48.40 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 27 May 1999 12:34:53 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.162.48.40] From: "Mandi Girl" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: BSP: heart beats 5.30.99 Day Party Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 12:34:53 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk *******************heart beats******************* Free Day Party 30mins. south of Oakland May 30, 1999 1pm - 8pm Free water & Barbecue Trance Dj's Damon & Owen (heart beats) Michael Liu (illumination records) Thomas Trouble & DJ D (trance & jungle factory) Jungle Dj's Joshua Jacob (027 productions) Presha & Rue (gridlock, compound records) For directions and information call (408) 278-8154 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 19:37:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24983 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 19:37:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 24711 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 19:37:00 -0000 Received: from web121.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.129) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 19:37:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527194312.9308.rocketmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web121.yahoomail.com; Thu, 27 May 1999 12:43:12 PDT Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 12:43:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: NrR: What one finds when boredom strikes To: SF Ravers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk enjoy. :) http://www.spumco.com/entertainment/webcartoon.html *HUGZ* pat From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 19:43:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29862 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 19:43:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 29748 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 19:43:43 -0000 Received: from dilbert.ucdavis.edu (root@169.237.105.33) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 19:43:43 -0000 Received: from localhost (sschumac@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dilbert.ucdavis.edu (8.9.3/UCD3.13.10) with ESMTP id MAA28835; Thu, 27 May 1999 12:43:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 12:43:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Silvia Schumacher X-Sender: sschumac@dilbert.ucdavis.edu To: loic comolli cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: overpriced DJ's/ scene comparison In-Reply-To: <19990527174825.4180.rocketmail@web806.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > i'd love to go to one over there. how do parties compare with bay area > ones? how's the vibe? it's a shame i don't know any of this, everybody > keeps asking me about the rave culture in europe and i never know what > to say. Well, let me make some statements about what I have noticed: 1. The rave/club scene in Europe/Germany is older than the one in CA. That means at the one hand that everything is pretty much established and on the other hand that there are many people who are older than 20. Of course, there are underage people, too, but that's not really a big deal since both twens and teens and often even people in their thirties and fourties go out and the underage people don't concentrate too much at one place. 2. Raves = Festivals, 10 Floors, 100 DJ's, thousands of people, or something like that, legal (!); clubs: their concepts vary, but most of the times they are more underground than raves, there can be 200-thousands of attendants in clubs, in my opinion more the core of the scene than raves 3. No candy ravers in Germany, hehe, no baggy pants, maybe working pants, no candy jewelry, maybe Germans are to serious...:))) 4. Music&DJ's (sorry, now it is getting very simplistic): - Trance is very popular, there are many tracks that even get into the charts; DJ's: Dag, Paul van Dyk, Taucher, Talla 2XLC and many more - Techno: Detroit Techno, Electro, ; DJ's: Sven Vaeth, Pascal F.E.O.S., DJ Hell, Westbam, Marky, Pierre P.S.: We all love the godfathers of techno from Detroit: Jeff Mills & CO., and Richie Hawtin, and Carl Cox -House: Chicago House, Discohouse; DJ's: Chi, and a lot I forgot the names of... :( -and everything else you want... 5. The vibe: At some clubs in Germany people don't dance before midnight, don't ask me why, but as soon as they are in the party mood, the vibe is getting better and better the later the party goes. Well, some Germans are as crazy as I am :). Hehe, and there are afterparties after afterparties many times until the next afternoon... Hehe, probably I forgot a lot and I don't make any sense, but that's how I am... PLUR, Silvia From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 20:47:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9020 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 20:47:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 8986 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 20:47:21 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd88.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.152) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 20:47:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 30265 invoked by uid 0); 27 May 1999 20:46:54 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527204654.30264.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 192.246.108.33 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:46:54 PDT X-Originating-IP: [192.246.108.33] From: "Lucy Fur" To: Sera13@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Question about Sunset!!!!Please Read and get back to me!!!!! Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 13:46:54 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk No, no parties until June 6th....the second Sunset boat party of the new year. >From: Sera13@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Question about Sunset!!!!Please Read and get back to me!!!!! >Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 13:48:33 EDT > >I was wondering if there was a party this sunday.....hmmmm? >Please get back to me ASAP. >Cherries, >Sera From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 20:49:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11846 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 20:49:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 11824 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 20:49:23 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 20:49:23 -0000 Received: from DjShUbErT@aol.com (3958) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iHOVa02602; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:42:38 -0400 (EDT) From: DjShUbErT@aol.com Message-ID: <4cad729c.247f083d@aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:42:37 EDT Subject: Re: overpriced DJ's To: macadio@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i dunno if anyone else heard this but Junior Vasquez was payed ( i read in Mimag ) $100,000 for a full on 12 hour set at a club in the UK ..now thats overpayed !!!! Peace, Shubert From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 20:52:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14099 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 20:52:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 14013 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 20:52:36 -0000 Received: from mole.slip.net (207.171.193.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 20:52:36 -0000 Received: from [207.171.214.12] (helo=exchange1.vertical.com) by mole.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 10n78j-00036M-00 for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:52:33 -0700 Received: by Exchange1.vertical.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:48:39 -0700 Message-ID: From: Monique Whittaker To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: Question about Sunset!!!!Please Read and get back to me!!!!! Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 13:48:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Any idea when those tix are going on sale? -----Original Message----- From: Lucy Fur [mailto:furlucy@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 1999 1:47 PM To: Sera13@aol.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Question about Sunset!!!!Please Read and get back to me!!!!! No, no parties until June 6th....the second Sunset boat party of the new year. >From: Sera13@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Question about Sunset!!!!Please Read and get back to me!!!!! >Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 13:48:33 EDT > >I was wondering if there was a party this sunday.....hmmmm? >Please get back to me ASAP. >Cherries, >Sera From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 21:02:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19122 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 21:02:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 18583 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 21:01:27 -0000 Received: from law2-f82.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.82) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 21:01:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 35200 invoked by uid 0); 27 May 1999 21:01:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527210100.35199.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 162.93.14.68 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 27 May 1999 14:01:00 PDT X-Originating-IP: [162.93.14.68] From: "p-stash ###" To: SFRAVES@HYPERREAL.ORG Subject: ? FOR DJs Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 21:01:00 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I asked this question on the F-8 list and got good responses, so i'll ask it to all the DJs on this list... Do you have hopes of being a professional Dj, and if so, how do you plan on getting to that level? cool, late. pistachio From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 21:02:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19207 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 21:02:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 18477 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 21:01:10 -0000 Received: from law2-f30.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 21:01:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 3861 invoked by uid 0); 27 May 1999 21:00:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527210042.3860.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 162.93.14.68 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 27 May 1999 14:00:42 PDT X-Originating-IP: [162.93.14.68] From: "p-stash ###" To: SFRAVES@HYPERREAL.ORG Subject: ? FOR DJs Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 21:00:42 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I asked this question on the F-8 list and got good responses, so i'll ask it to all the DJs on this list... Do you have hopes of being a professional Dj, and if so, how do you plan on getting to that level? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 21:03:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19316 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 21:02:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 18960 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 21:02:28 -0000 Received: from ns.ultimanet.com (HELO relay.ultimanet.com) (205.179.129.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 21:02:28 -0000 Received: from [205.179.129.9] (sprout.ultimanet.com [205.179.129.9]) by relay.ultimanet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04882; Thu, 27 May 1999 14:01:50 -0700 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <927829886.11523.154@excite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 13:05:43 -0700 To: leslie.ayres@excite.com From: terry estioko Subject: Re: Sol party, I'll be at the door.... Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Actually, that Viberation could have been all ages if we closed off the bar, but in the interest of the party's safety and the accommodation of our beer guzzling crew, we made it 18+. And that desicion actually was probably a good one, things might have turned out differently that night if there were kids in there when the Sheriffs did the walk-through. -terry >yep, that's true.... ( i got to check ids for a shift on that one too, >though i have to say adam was the definite i.d. man par excellence!).... but >that was a place that required that, i think (right? since there was a bar >attached to the place?).... i think the sol party may be one where it's not >a requirement of the space... i do believe. > >leslie > > >On Thu, 27 May 1999 09:49:22 -0700, Siphon wrote: > >> Actually - our last Viberation party was 18+. >> >> _____________________ >> S i p h o n >> Urban Assault [99] >> info: 408.882.5064 >> http://www.urbanassault.org >> >> >> >> >> leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: >> > >> > ok... in the 18-up discussions, i volunteered to be the "door >id-checker" >> > for the first promoter who would volunteer to do this... >> > >> > and has greg said in his post yesterday about sol on june 26th, harmony >will >> > be the first crew to voluntarily do an 18-up event.... and, hmmm, no >> > surprise since i love working the harmony line whenever i can anyway... >i >> > will be there at the door... >> > >> > so, i'm looking forward to it, and while i know that there are going to >be >> > some who are very disappointed... but bear with us here, support the >effort >> > to help keep the scene alive and well for you all.... >> > >> > love, >> > leslie >> > >> > Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ > > > > > >Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ ------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@viberation.com http://www.viberation.com/terry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 21:14:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4174 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 21:14:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 4145 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 21:14:15 -0000 Received: from web604.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.168) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 21:14:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527211511.26123.rocketmail@web604.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.102.117.86] by web604.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 27 May 1999 14:15:11 PDT Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:15:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Darth Jar Jar Reply-To: elias_smith@juno.com Subject: Re: ? FOR DJs To: p-stash ### , SFRAVES@HYPERREAL.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Professional DJ? blah! Free beer and young women. --- p-stash ### wrote: > > Do you have hopes of being a professional Dj, and > if so, how do you plan on > getting to that level? > > > === <> <<--MegaHertZ-->> http://www.MHz.nu 415-395-8448 We eat candy ravers for breakfast... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 21:16:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6419 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 21:16:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 6411 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 21:16:14 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 21:16:14 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (8044) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iJMDa03098; Thu, 27 May 1999 17:08:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <48aa8841.247f0e5a@aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 17:08:42 EDT Subject: Re: The Rapping of drumnbass... To: paris81@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/27/99 11:54:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, paris81@hotmail.com writes: << . To all my fellow dj's(jew know who u are) and all junglist&jungal's.. What is your view? Do you think the media will abuse the music and sell it out or what...? >> well to me jungle was abused by the media out there in the UK long time ago ever since General Levy and M-Beat days. out there they have the problem with it like here but there its probly more mainstream. me personally i think its still not mainstream here like there. the media here use it of course. i think it will become commercial as soon as EVERYONE and their mama in the US pick up on it and want to go to the jungle club to get their jungle on. me personally i donth ave a problem with it. there is already bad jungle out there i wouldnt listen to anyway (example:aphrodite) and i think there is enuff jungle out there for everyone's taste. jungle is to me the music i would want everyone else to hear and i wouldnt mind it being all over the place as long as people appreciate it and know "yeah this is some dope shit" now if they abuse it then we're gonna have to call up the Homies and "Deal with the matta, Deal with it propa";;;;;;;;;quote MC Skibbaddeeeeee DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 21:17:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8372 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 21:17:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 8163 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 21:17:36 -0000 Received: from nytoday.whowhere.com (HELO mc-qout2.whowhere.com) (209.1.236.38) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 21:17:36 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared1-mail.whowhere.com; Thu May 27 14:16:59 1999 To: SFRAVES@HYPERREAL.ORG, "p-stash ###" Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:16:59 -0700 From: "23" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: ? FOR DJs X-Sender-Ip: 206.111.131.80 Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail (http://www.eudoramail.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The brightest candle burns half as long. ---Anakin -- On Thu, 27 May 1999 21:01:00 p-stash ### wrote: >I asked this question on the F-8 list and got good responses, so i'll ask it >to all the DJs on this list... > >Do you have hopes of being a professional Dj, and if so, how do you plan on >getting to that level? > >cool, late. pistachio > > > Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 21:27:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14247 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 21:27:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 14216 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 21:27:10 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 21:27:10 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (8044) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iJMMa08831; Thu, 27 May 1999 17:12:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 17:12:57 EDT Subject: Re: Parties at 2nd & jax To: raf_one@hotmail.com, Markis1012@aol.com, pacific_united_ravers@yahoo.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/27/99 1:07:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, raf_one@hotmail.com writes: << Does anyone remember 16th & Harrison?-or Richmond Civic Center? those were the spots!! >> well shit....someone needs to throw another party at the Richmond Civic Center.....hehe hometown Representative here DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 21:37:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20776 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 21:37:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 20759 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 21:37:44 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 21:37:44 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (8044) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iGRWa02575; Thu, 27 May 1999 17:29:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 17:29:11 EDT Subject: Re: ? FOR DJs To: mathsound@hotmail.com, SFRAVES@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/27/99 5:07:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mathsound@hotmail.com writes: << Do you have hopes of being a professional Dj, and if so, how do you plan on getting to that level? >> well i think i can say now im semi-pro. but im in the crawling stages of becoming a pro dj. when i started back in 1996 i did local house parties for kids in my school on the mobil dj tip. (no not boom boom boom house...ghetto house parties). but yeah i wanted to do the dj thing since winter of 1994 during the time when battle djing was first starting to sprout. i practiced all day and nite when i got my tables. i fugured with enuff practice i will one day get to be out there doing my thing in dj battles and stuff. now? im leaning more towards becoming a full time jungle dj with the hip hop thing on the side. i say with enuff practice u to can become a pro dj like me one day. DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 21:46:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25544 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 21:46:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 25522 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 21:46:52 -0000 Received: from mole.slip.net (207.171.193.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 21:46:52 -0000 Received: from [207.171.214.12] (helo=exchange1.vertical.com) by mole.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 10n7zF-0003HV-00; Thu, 27 May 1999 14:46:49 -0700 Received: by Exchange1.vertical.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 27 May 1999 14:42:56 -0700 Message-ID: From: Monique Whittaker To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: "'rudy@sonikd.com'" Subject: Nikita tomorrow night Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:41:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Anyone know who's playing at Nikita tomorrow night? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 22:04:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8821 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 22:04:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 8805 invoked by uid 228); 27 May 1999 22:04:26 -0000 Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:04:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Karina Powers To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Blue Room/ EyePhunk message (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk FYI: ==================================================== What lies behind us karina@hyperreal.org and What lies before us are tiny matters When compared to What lies Within Us. -Oliver Wendell Holmes ==================================================== ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 12:37:18 -0700 From: darin@blueroomusa.com To: Karina Powers , Brian M. McDonald Subject: Blue Room/ EyePhunk message PLEASE FORWARD THIS MESSAGE TO ALL LISTS ATTN: Message redarding the Blue Room/ Eye Phunk party Saturday May 22 Hello Everyone, I am sending out this letter to apologise on behalf of myself ( the organizer), Blue Room, Eye Phunk, & D7 to all the people who tried to attend the event this passed weekend. Due to the amount of incoming calls the night of the event we were unable to change the info line to give directions to the party. The space where the event was held is not permitted to sell tickets at the door. Because of this we used the underground method of using a map point for the ticket sales. We have done this many times before with the same info line and have never had a problem, so we were not prepared for this unfortunate happening. We have never felt it neccessary to have more than one info line as it is a toll free number and can take large amounts of incoming calls(it just can't change the message while it is playing it- as we found out). We sat on the phone for six hours trying to change the message and even tried having the operator block the line or forward the calls to another voice mail but were unable to accomplish this. I am refunding all the tickets that were sold presale and were unable to find the party including the service fee from the shops. As well for the people who did attend the event - I am amazed at your determination to find the party! I recieved a lot of coments on how the drum & bass room looked dark and like not that much love was put into it. I had an amazing artist from LA to come and decorate the room. Due to the phone message story, I was tied up trying to sort this problem out and did not find out that the decorator had not arrived until after the party had begun. I had planned for that room to very spacial for Tee Bee's first US appearance and visually it did not turn out that way. Musically that room totally went off !!! Fortunately, the overall feedback from people is quite amazing, and I thank you all for this. To get your refund please call 415- 487- 7817 or email darin@blueroomusa.com Lot's of love to you all, Darin Earl Blue Room & Eye Phunk Thank you for supporting us and helping unite the scene and all things with a twist of funkatechnod&belectrosoyoucangroovewiththefunkytranceinyourpantssoyoucandance!!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 22:10:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11751 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 22:10:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 11662 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 22:10:02 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 22:10:02 -0000 Received: from user (access-50-181.ixpres.com [209.75.50.181]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA82182 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990527150127.00713880@mail.ixpres.com> X-Sender: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:01:27 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: NRR: Jeno Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ...spun down here in San Diego last nite and i just wanted to say that it was WONDERFUL! I got my little dose of SF house for an evening and it made me positively glow! It's prolly not a big deal for all you lucky kidz b/c he's all over the city, but we here in the southland we get mad excited over stuff like this! Damn i miss you San Fran! All you who are there; don't forget to love where you are! muah madhvi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 22:15:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15884 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 22:15:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 15856 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 22:15:20 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 22:15:20 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA25232 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:15:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id WAA07476 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 22:12:14 GMT From: "MooK<><" To: "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" Subject: funky house/hardhouse/hardbag?? Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:22:06 -0700 Message-ID: <008901bea88f$5a4e4060$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Anybody got any suggestions for some good funky house, hard house, or hardbag mix cd's or tapes. I'm looking for stuff that is alive and slammin. The kind that doesn't let you stop dancing and just kicks your ass. Note: no diva house or jazzy house please. =) M<>< From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 22:21:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20891 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 22:21:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 20883 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 22:21:53 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 22:21:53 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-175.dsp.com [204.118.76.175]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA24353; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:20:53 -0700 Message-Id: <4.1.19990527151407.009ca250@wgdsearch.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:18:28 -0700 To: Madhvi Dalal , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: NRR: Jeno In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990527150127.00713880@mail.ixpres.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It's a special event for me every single time I get to hear Jeno spin. I always want to go up and thank him afterwards, but don't wanna seem like a groupie. Yep, we're lucky. Every time I really consider moving somewhere else, like Minneapolis say, I look over what there is in terms of a music scene and see thing like (I kid you not, I found this on the MN Yahoo pg): Polka Fest - at Jackpot Junction Casino through May 30 and can't bring myself to do it... Jessica At 03:01 PM 5/27/99 -0700, Madhvi Dalal wrote: >...spun down here in San Diego last nite and i just wanted to say that it >was WONDERFUL! I got my little dose of SF house for an evening and it made >me positively glow! It's prolly not a big deal for all you lucky kidz b/c >he's all over the city, but we here in the southland we get mad excited >over stuff like this! Damn i miss you San Fran! All you who are there; >don't forget to love where you are! > >muah > >madhvi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 22:22:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23151 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 22:22:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 22930 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 22:22:37 -0000 Received: from web308.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.225) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 22:22:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527222601.17155.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.36.254.95] by web308.yahoomail.com; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:26:01 PDT Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:26:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Gosiewski Subject: Re: Parties at Richmond civic To: Megatron45@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Re: Richmond Civic I did visuals for what I think was the last party ever held there (Digitaria- Theatr du Futur- Promoted by FTT ) We were told that it was the last chance for the Dance community as the venue suffered from heavy tagging at a Wicked party the month before ... Unfortunately, the taggers did not respect our wishes and `Ravers' were banned from putting on events there - However, that was years ago, Maybe the time has come for a savvy promoter to reapproach them ... I would certainly like to work in that space again! --- Megatron45@aol.com wrote: > > Does anyone remember 16th & Harrison?-or Richmond > Civic Center? those were > the spots!! > >> > > well shit....someone needs to throw another party at > the Richmond Civic > Center.....hehe hometown Representative here > > DJMEGATRON:mechasoul > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 22:38:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7079 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 22:38:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 7064 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 22:38:15 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 22:38:15 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA02498; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905272237.PAA02498@mail.netwiz.net> To: "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" , "MooK<><" Subject: Re: funky house/hardhouse/hardbag?? Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:37:01 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I highly recommend Tony de Vit (RIP) ... there's a variety of import comps with his excellent DJing. He's one of the few DJs that can keep me interested in music that clocks in at over 140BPM. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 22:39:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7934 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 22:39:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 7892 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 22:39:34 -0000 Received: from smtp6.jps.net (209.63.224.103) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 22:39:34 -0000 Received: from [209.239.194.108] (209-239-194-108.oak.jps.net [209.239.194.108]) by smtp6.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA23248 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4cad729c.247f083d@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:36:01 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Michael Standish Subject: Re: overpriced DJ's Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 4:42 PM -0400 5/27/99, DjShUbErT@aol.com wrote: >I dunno if anyone else heard this but Junior Vasquez was payed ( I read in >Mimag ) $100,000 for a full on 12 hour set at a club in the UK ..now that's >overpayed !!!! Why is that overpaid? What was his draw? How much money did his name on the flyer, bring in for the promoter. If he wasn't worth that much, he wouldn't get paid that much. When it comes to booking, for far to many promoters, draw is a bigger consideration than skills. Just ask all the cookie cutter promoters who book M&M every weekend. Yes they have skills, and the promoters know this, but the are booking M&M for their draw. NEways who cares what other people make? If you like the party, the line up, and you can deal with the price, then go and enjoy. It shouldn't matter what the DJs, Promoter, or anyone else is making. Sir Ulrich Knight of the Turntables From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 22:40:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8699 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 22:40:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 8685 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 22:40:35 -0000 Received: from pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (HELO pimout1-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.58.53) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 22:40:35 -0000 Received: from prodigy.net (SNFCB112-27.splitrock.net [209.156.147.234]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA60368; Thu, 27 May 1999 18:40:31 -0400 Message-ID: <374DC8FC.20379EBC@prodigy.net> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:36:44 -0700 From: JOELANZON Reply-To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stefan Gosiewski CC: Megatron45@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Parties at Richmond civic References: <19990527222601.17155.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Come to think of it, I believe it was all the tagging that lost that space. Actually quite a few spaces were lost due to tagging. Unfortunate. -peace- Joe Stefan Gosiewski wrote: > Re: Richmond Civic > > I did visuals for what I think was the last party ever held there > (Digitaria- Theatr du Futur- Promoted by FTT ) We were told that it was > the last chance for the Dance community as the venue suffered from > heavy tagging at a Wicked party the month before ... Unfortunately, the > taggers did not respect our wishes and `Ravers' were banned from > putting on events there - However, that was years ago, Maybe the time > has come for a savvy promoter to reapproach them ... I would certainly > like to work in that space again! > > --- Megatron45@aol.com wrote: > > > > Does anyone remember 16th & Harrison?-or Richmond > > Civic Center? those were > > the spots!! > > >> > > > > well shit....someone needs to throw another party at > > the Richmond Civic > > Center.....hehe hometown Representative here > > > > DJMEGATRON:mechasoul > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 22:52:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16566 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 22:52:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 16558 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 22:52:03 -0000 Received: from nytoday.whowhere.com (HELO mc-qout2.whowhere.com) (209.1.236.38) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 22:52:03 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared1-mail.whowhere.com; Thu May 27 15:51:29 1999 To: mathsound@hotmail.com, SFRAVES@hyperreal.org, Megatron45@aol.com Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:51:29 -0700 From: "23" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: ? FOR DJs X-Sender-Ip: 206.111.131.80 Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail (http://www.eudoramail.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk -- On Thu, 27 May 1999 17:29:11 Megatron45 wrote: but yeah i wanted to do the dj thing since winter of 1994 >during the time when battle djing was first starting to sprout. > **Or rather, when you discovered "Battle DJing". Anyone remember _Beat Street?_, _Wild Style?_, _Breakin?_ ---Anakin "Stay Connected" Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 22:58:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19933 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 22:58:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 19819 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 22:58:15 -0000 Received: from law-f202.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.112) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 22:58:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 95908 invoked by uid 0); 27 May 1999 22:57:52 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527225752.95907.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.218.79 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:57:52 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.218.79] From: "K Gray" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: overpriced DJ's Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:57:52 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >At 4:42 PM -0400 5/27/99, DjShUbErT@aol.com wrote: > >I dunno if anyone else heard this but Junior Vasquez was payed ( I read >in > >Mimag ) $100,000 for a full on 12 hour set at a club in the UK ..now >that's > >overpayed !!!! TWELVE HOUR SET? He stood in one place, spinning records, matching beats, mixing tunes for TWELVE HOURS? I have seen Doc Martin do a 6-hour set and it looked like work. I can't imagine what a 12-hour set would take out of you. The Rolling Stones only play for an hour and a half. Anyone here spin a 12-hour set? K From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 23:02:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23374 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 23:02:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 23363 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 23:02:45 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 23:02:45 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (8041) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vWTBa02603 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 19:01:29 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 19:01:29 EDT Subject: Answer to the latest riddle is To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Kneecaps. They don't develop until you are between 2 and 5. Easy...too easy. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 23:08:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27452 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 23:07:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 27444 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 23:07:57 -0000 Received: from nytoday.whowhere.com (HELO mc-qout2.whowhere.com) (209.1.236.38) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 23:07:57 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared1-mail.whowhere.com; Thu May 27 16:07:23 1999 To: "K Gray" Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:07:23 -0700 From: "23" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: overpriced DJ's X-Sender-Ip: 206.111.131.80 Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail (http://www.eudoramail.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Define Spin.... -- On Thu, 27 May 1999 15:57:52 K Gray wrote: > >Anyone here spin a 12-hour set? > >K > > > > Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 23:11:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29472 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 23:11:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 29441 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 23:11:47 -0000 Received: from mail-oak-3.pilot.net (HELO mail03-oak.pilot.net) (198.232.147.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 23:11:47 -0000 Received: from unknown-101-81.adecco.com (unknown-101-81.adecco.com [206.24.101.81] (may be forged)) by mail03-oak.pilot.net with ESMTP id QAA18457; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:14:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason.LEE@adecco.com Received: from boxster.hq.adia (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unknown-101-81.adecco.com with SMTP id QAA17353; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:11:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by boxster.hq.adia(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) id 8825677E.007F74F9 ; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:12:10 -0700 X-Lotus-FromDomain: US_ADECCO To: "K Gray" cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <8825677E.007F6ADE.00@boxster.hq.adia> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:11:12 -0700 Subject: 12 hour sets Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I've done a 12+ hour set befor in Florida, probably the best set I've ever done. It was indeed alot of work, but then again when you love the music and you love what your doing, the time is of no essence. I liked doing that long of a set becuase I could take it where ever I wanted, I could play all the music that I wanted to play, and I could really really project the journey through music that I've allways wanted to project..... the people loved it... and stayed till the bitter end.... it was truley a memorable moment, but the issue was started on the basis of how much a popular dj got paid, let me tell you that the 12 hour set I did was for free.... the tables were my own, and everything I contributed then was of me...... and I can honestly say I got so much satisfaction from that then I would probably have gotten from any amount of money, now don't get me wrong I would not turn down the money, but the money would deffinately not be the reason to do such an endeavor again.... and again.... and again..... so to add to this thread as well as another thread stating whether or not being a top dj is of any importance, well I think it all boils down to one thing...... the reason you are djing..... the fame or the money..... I dunno, for me famous or not rich or not..... I love the music, and I love the hobbie, and I love the art.... and I do what I love...... period. Jason >At 4:42 PM -0400 5/27/99, DjShUbErT@aol.com wrote: > >I dunno if anyone else heard this but Junior Vasquez was payed ( I read >in > >Mimag ) $100,000 for a full on 12 hour set at a club in the UK ..now >that's > >overpayed !!!! TWELVE HOUR SET? He stood in one place, spinning records, matching beats, mixing tunes for TWELVE HOURS? I have seen Doc Martin do a 6-hour set and it looked like work. I can't imagine what a 12-hour set would take out of you. The Rolling Stones only play for an hour and a half. Anyone here spin a 12-hour set? K From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 23:15:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3191 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 23:15:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 3177 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 23:15:24 -0000 Received: from law-f56.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.119) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 23:15:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 90299 invoked by uid 0); 27 May 1999 23:15:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527231514.90298.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.218.79 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:15:14 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.218.79] From: "K Gray" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: overpriced DJ's Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:15:14 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Define Spin.... you know: whirling, like a dervish; bicycling, like a fitness freak; tumbling, like a dryer; dizzy, like a drunk; angled, like a politician; giddy, like a child; gossiping, like a magazine; Or just putting the damn vinyl on the turntables, matching the beats, mixing in the next record, moving the crowd and staying on your feet while everyone else is in elevated into the air. K From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 23:24:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7936 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 23:24:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 7926 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 23:24:18 -0000 Received: from law-f236.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.201) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 23:24:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 58522 invoked by uid 0); 27 May 1999 23:23:52 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527232352.58521.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.218.79 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:23:52 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.218.79] From: "K Gray" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 12 hour sets Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:23:52 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Jason has: >I've done a 12+ hour set befor in Florida I can't imagine playing a 12 hour set when you DON't love the music -it must have been transcendent to play a 12-hour set. I also can't imagine paying a DJ $100,000. Or an athelete $1m per game. When I watched "Titanic," all I could think about was the amount of money they spent. Couldn't even enjoy the movie, actually. But that is a sociological issue, not a rave-related one. Follow your bliss, K From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 23:25:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9147 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 23:25:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 9138 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 23:25:53 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?cgq3P8IQ+MQL2Z/o0XwjdkXx/0r/lJit?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 23:25:53 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id QAA16517; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:25:51 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:25:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: Greg Adair cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: BIG TOP remenisce In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Man, that night Grooverider only played for like an hour and he hit it from every position available. I think I was pretty close to dying of a bloodclot heartattack when he dropped the Grooverider Jeep Beat Mix of Share the Fall that had everyone brocking out for months to come. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 23:28:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10772 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 23:28:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 10758 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 23:28:06 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 23:28:06 -0000 Received: from BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com (8053) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNINa02589 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 19:27:14 -0400 (EDT) From: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com Message-ID: <6c7644df.247f2ed2@aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 19:27:14 EDT Subject: ? For Full Moon To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know the approximate location for this party? I really wanna go but I need to know where it is...So who wants to be really dope and gimme some info? I hope that everyone has a great weekend. Get outside it's beautiful out there =*) -=~*LaUrE@*~=- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 23:32:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13142 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 23:32:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 13072 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 23:32:17 -0000 Received: from web506.yahoomail.com (HELO send501.yahoomail.com) (128.11.68.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 23:32:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527233407.15640.rocketmail@send501.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.119.128.253] by web506.yahoomail.com; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:34:07 PDT Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:34:07 -0700 (PDT) From: What is a dic-so bunny Subject: NRR: Legal Implications on a Poser!! Please read... To: "Da Sack A Tomatoes ." , "Hib Ta Da Hibbidy Hop" "and da Boccoli" Biff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey Everybody!!! I have a question…what would you do if you found out that someone's been attaching your picture to nasty emails….basically posing as YOU??? What could I do to someone LEGALLY for doing this??? >From what I understand, my picture has been sent to many people in the bay area and east coast, sh*t man, just about everywhere. I never gave this person permission to use my picture...I just found out that she's been doing this through *surprise* getting the email myself!! A friend saw MY picture and knew that I was not aware. Thankfully they sent it to me as proof. Any legal buffs out there know what I can do? This is crap. Sherri ;) Please, if you've seen my picture on an email, website, or milk carton...please disregard it. I'm a nice little raver girl, not some trashy married whore. Thank you. === Fievel and Dinky Little SUCK DONKEY From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 23:33:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14191 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 23:33:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 14168 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 23:33:27 -0000 Received: from nytoday.whowhere.com (HELO mc-qout2.whowhere.com) (209.1.236.38) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 23:33:27 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared1-mail.whowhere.com; Thu May 27 16:32:47 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, "K Gray" Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:32:47 -0700 From: "23" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: overpriced DJ's X-Sender-Ip: 206.111.131.80 Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail (http://www.eudoramail.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Postings that make me smile =) =) =) Happy PLURSday folx! --_Anakin (BTW Longest spin stint @ a house party for 7hrs in SJ before DJ Deepfog relieved me) -- On Thu, 27 May 1999 16:15:14 K Gray wrote: >>Define Spin.... > >you know: > >whirling, like a dervish; > >bicycling, like a fitness freak; > >tumbling, like a dryer; > >dizzy, like a drunk; > >angled, like a politician; > >giddy, like a child; > >gossiping, like a magazine; > >Or just putting the damn vinyl on the turntables, matching the beats, mixing >in the next record, moving the crowd and staying on your feet while everyone >else is in elevated into the air. > >K > > > > Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 23:33:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14860 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 23:33:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 14842 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 23:33:48 -0000 Received: from web802.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.62) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 23:33:48 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527233320.23103.rocketmail@web802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web802.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:33:20 PDT Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:33:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: TONIGHT-u must be there To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Um hello, dont miss Eklektic, its the beginning of my summer, we all need to celebrate. Tonight represents something special, dont y'all feel it, I do, I think this crazy maze we've been thrown through these last couple of weeks will be released at tonights eklektic, come on, step to it, it will be a blast. I guarantee it. ABSOLUTE-ly ;) Jess === Change is constant, its the only reliable thing in life. ~buglady From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 23:46:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23892 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 23:46:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 23883 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 23:46:29 -0000 Received: from f59.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.193) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 23:46:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 17767 invoked by uid 0); 27 May 1999 23:46:01 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527234601.17766.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.86.40.85 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:46:00 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.86.40.85] From: "becky thorton" To: Jason.LEE@adecco.com, kehgray@hotmail.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 12 hour sets Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:46:00 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk When do you goto the bathroom?!?! ;) love n plur becky From: Jason.LEE@adecco.com To: "K Gray" CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: 12 hour sets Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:11:12 -0700 I've done a 12+ hour set befor in Florida, probably the best set I've ever done. It was indeed alot of work, but then again when you love the music and you love what your doing, the time is of no essence. I liked doing that long of a set becuase I could take it where ever I wanted, I could play all the music that I wanted to play, and I could really really project the journey through music that I've allways wanted to project..... the people loved it... and stayed till the bitter end.... it was truley a memorable moment, but the issue was started on the basis of how much a popular dj got paid, let me tell you that the 12 hour set I did was for free.... the tables were my own, and everything I contributed then was of me...... and I can honestly say I got so much satisfaction from that then I would probably have gotten from any amount of money, now don't get me wrong I would not turn down the money, but the money would deffinately not be the reason to do such an endeavor again.... and again.... and again..... so to add to this thread as well as another thread stating whether or not being a top dj is of any importance, well I think it all boils down to one thing...... the reason you are djing..... the fame or the money..... I dunno, for me famous or not rich or not..... I love the music, and I love the hobbie, and I love the art.... and I do what I love...... period. Jason >At 4:42 PM -0400 5/27/99, DjShUbErT@aol.com wrote: > >I dunno if anyone else heard this but Junior Vasquez was payed ( I read >in > >Mimag ) $100,000 for a full on 12 hour set at a club in the UK ..now >that's > >overpayed !!!! TWELVE HOUR SET? He stood in one place, spinning records, matching beats, mixing tunes for TWELVE HOURS? I have seen Doc Martin do a 6-hour set and it looked like work. I can't imagine what a 12-hour set would take out of you. The Rolling Stones only play for an hour and a half. Anyone here spin a 12-hour set? K From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 23:57:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 297 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 23:57:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 195 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 23:56:58 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 23:56:58 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (8041) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPYDa11104 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 19:56:02 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 19:55:58 EDT Subject: Love making test {nrr} To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Love making test Multiple-choice test Answers at the bottom of page 1. In the company of females, intercourse should be referred to > as: a) lovemaking b) screwing c) the pigskin bus pulling into tuna town 2. You should make love to a woman for the first time only after you've both shared: a) your views about what you expect from a sexual relationship b) your blood-test results c) five tequila slammers 3. You time your orgasm so that: a) your partner climaxes first b) you both climax simultaneously c) you don't miss Sportscenter 4. Passionate, spontaneous sex on the kitchen floor is: a) healthy, creative love-play b) not the sort of thing your wife/girlfriend would ever agree to c) not the sort of thing your wife/girlfriend need ever find out about 5. Spending the whole night cuddling a woman you've just had sex with is: a) the best part of the experience b) the second best part of the experience c) $100 extra 6. Your girlfriend says she's gained five pounds in weight in the last month. You tell her that is: a) No concern of yours b) not a problem, she can join your gym c) a conservative estimate 7. You think today's sensitive, caring man is: a) a myth b) an oxymoron c) a moron 8. Foreplay is to sex as: a) appetizer is to entree b) primer is to paint c) a line is to an amusement park ride 9. Which of the following are you most likely to find yourself saying at the end of a relationship? a) "I hope we can still be friends," b) "I'm not in right now, please leave a message at the beep," c) "Welcome to Dumpsville, population, Y-O-U." 10. A woman who is uncomfortable watching you masturbate: a) probably needs a little more time before she can cope with that sort of intimacy b) is uptight and a waste of time c) shouldn't have sat next to you on the bus in the first place =========- http://www.angelfire.com/hi/ovydd/humor.html -========== If you answered "a" more than 7 times, check your pants to make sure you really are a man. If you answered "b" more than seven times, check into therapy, you're still a little confused. If you answered "c" more than 7 times, "YOU-DA-MAN!" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu May 27 23:58:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2141 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 23:58:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 1733 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 23:57:49 -0000 Received: from mail-oak-2.pilot.net (HELO mail02-oak.pilot.net) (198.232.147.17) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 23:57:49 -0000 Received: from unknown-101-81.adecco.com (unknown-101-81.adecco.com [206.24.101.81] (may be forged)) by mail02-oak.pilot.net with ESMTP id QAA10886; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:57:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason.LEE@adecco.com Received: from boxster.hq.adia (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unknown-101-81.adecco.com with SMTP id QAA20192; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by boxster.hq.adia(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) id 8825677E.0083AF67 ; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:58:21 -0700 X-Lotus-FromDomain: US_ADECCO To: "becky thorton" cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <8825677E.0083AC6D.00@boxster.hq.adia> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:57:44 -0700 Subject: Re: 12 hour sets Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think thats why they made those 12+ minute remixes ;) Jason When do you goto the bathroom?!?! ;) love n plur becky I've done a 12+ hour set befor in Florida, probably the best set I've ever done. It was indeed alot of work, but then again when you love the music and you love what your doing, the time is of no essence. I liked doing that long of a set becuase I could take it where ever I wanted, I could play all the music that I wanted to play, and I could really really project the journey through music that I've allways wanted to project..... the people loved it... and stayed till the bitter end.... it was truley a memorable moment, but the issue was started on the basis of how much a popular dj got paid, let me tell you that the 12 hour set I did was for free.... the tables were my own, and everything I contributed then was of me...... and I can honestly say I got so much satisfaction from that then I would probably have gotten from any amount of money, now don't get me wrong I would not turn down the money, but the money would deffinately not be the reason to do such an endeavor again.... and again.... and again..... so to add to this thread as well as another thread stating whether or not being a top dj is of any importance, well I think it all boils down to one thing...... the reason you are djing..... the fame or the money..... I dunno, for me famous or not rich or not..... I love the music, and I love the hobbie, and I love the art.... and I do what I love...... period. Jason >At 4:42 PM -0400 5/27/99, DjShUbErT@aol.com wrote: > >I dunno if anyone else heard this but Junior Vasquez was payed ( I read >in > >Mimag ) $100,000 for a full on 12 hour set at a club in the UK ..now >that's > >overpayed !!!! TWELVE HOUR SET? He stood in one place, spinning records, matching beats, mixing tunes for TWELVE HOURS? I have seen Doc Martin do a 6-hour set and it looked like work. I can't imagine what a 12-hour set would take out of you. The Rolling Stones only play for an hour and a half. Anyone here spin a 12-hour set? K From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 00:05:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7507 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 00:05:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 7481 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 00:05:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO next-mail.hightrend.com) (209.31.33.216) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 00:05:07 -0000 Received: from adc1257 (10.1.1.150 [10.1.1.150]) by next-mail.hightrend.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id K7KTBMLR; Thu, 27 May 1999 17:13:59 -0700 Received: by adc1257 with Microsoft Mail id <01BEA863.271A0D40@adc1257>; Thu, 27 May 1999 17:05:42 -0700 Message-ID: <01BEA863.271A0D40@adc1257> From: Vitaly Golomb To: "'sfraves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: A word on age and DJ prices Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 17:05:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The age thing is a very touchy subject. The problem that Isaac was = bringing to discussion was the liability. Some of you may remember = "permission slips" in school, those are nothing else but liability = waivers. Unfortunately there is very few options for teen entertainment = and raves are just so damn fun. The problem (major one) is that under = the age of 18 people are "not of capacity" meaning that legally they are = not responcibile for their actions, and it seems that the dumber the = actions the more sheltered the kids are. The kid does something dumb, = OD's, the ambulance carts him/her away, the parents get called, the = parents go through the roof and forget to punish their kid instead they = take advantage of the law and sue: the promoter, the venue owner, the = city, your mom, my mom, god, and the universe. Result? The venue = closed, huge fees paid by all, the promoter screwed or jailed (or both = in reverse order), the city gets even harsher on raves. For those of = you underage, most are responcible (when sober) but those who aren't = just can't deal with authority (parents) and go when they forbid you. = Have paitiance grass hoppers, let the problems with your parents blow = over and go to another party instead of escaping and getting the party = shut down. FYI all parties in Oakland are supposed to 18+ (so the = permit states) but it is an unenforced rule so cherish that and don't = stretch it. Some of you clame to be mature and adultlike, please be = responcible, that is the number one thing you have to do when you are an = adult. On DJ pricing, very simple supply and demand. Chemical Brothers will = sell 50,000 tickets in one day when DJ Nobody is not worth his guest = list. Hence if Chemical Brothers sell 50,000 $25 tix it is $1,250,000 = and they are well worth the $35,000 they want. Very simple... If you = want to book someone huge and rare then you gotta have the dough. Deep Thoughts Vitaly From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 00:05:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7513 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 00:05:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 7499 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 00:05:08 -0000 Received: from web308.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.225) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 00:05:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990528000832.801.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.12.235] by web308.yahoomail.com; Thu, 27 May 1999 17:08:32 PDT Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 17:08:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Gosiewski Subject: Terence McKenna Update To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > Terence McKenna will be undergoing a biopsy > today to determine whether or not he has a brain > tumor. His condition > appears to be very serious. Please take time out to > think about and pray > for Terence. > > he would welcome cards and messages of love, energy > of all kinds sent his way for healing: > The address is: Queen's Medical Hospital, 1301 > Punchbowl > Street, Room 402, > Bed # 2, Honolulu, Hawaii 96813. > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 00:06:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9081 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 00:06:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 9052 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 00:06:12 -0000 Received: from law-f55.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.118) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 00:06:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 99660 invoked by uid 0); 28 May 1999 00:05:56 -0000 Message-ID: <19990528000556.99659.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 170.20.137.144 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 27 May 1999 17:05:55 PDT X-Originating-IP: [170.20.137.144] From: "Alknod !" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 12 hour sets Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 17:05:55 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I could not have said it better myself, Jason, you have the right attitude and I am in agreeance with you on this. I spun with all my own gear at Acid Breaks, a 2 hr set from 2-4 and I had one of the best times in my life doing it. I really connected with the audience that night and it elevated me to almost spiritual levels. Guess thats what happens on yer first ever gig! No I was not on any kind of external substances, sober as a kitten. I stayed sober that night because I did not want to shade my memory of my first gig and the energy that I was a witness to. I will never forget that night, and I did it all for free. Tho I must admit a little cash would have been a nice gesture of good will but the night was soo incredible, it really made no difference to me at all. Now that I am buying more records than ever, I would think twice about doing a massive for free, but seeing as how I am still new to DJing, I don't expect much at all, at least not yet anyway. But I truely love the music and how it moves through me and to the crowd when it sparks them to dance. Thats when you will see me dancing right with them, what can I say, I can hardly contain myself! Dj Alex Van Dune >From: Jason.LEE@adecco.com >To: "K Gray" >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: 12 hour sets >Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:11:12 -0700 > > > >I've done a 12+ hour set befor in Florida, probably the best set I've ever >done. >It was indeed alot of work, but then again when you love the music and you >love >what your doing, the time is of no essence. I liked doing that long of a >set >becuase I could take it where ever I wanted, I could play all the music >that I >wanted to play, and I could really really project the journey through music >that >I've allways wanted to project..... the people loved it... and stayed till >the >bitter end.... it was truley a memorable moment, but the issue was started >on >the basis of how much a popular dj got paid, let me tell you that the 12 >hour >set I did was for free.... the tables were my own, and everything I >contributed >then was of me...... and I can honestly say I got so much satisfaction >from >that then I would probably have gotten from any amount of money, now don't >get >me wrong I would not turn down the money, but the money would deffinately >not be >the reason to do such an endeavor again.... and again.... and again..... >so to >add to this thread as well as another thread stating whether or not being a >top >dj is of any importance, well I think it all boils down to one thing...... >the >reason you are djing..... the fame or the money..... I dunno, for me famous >or >not rich or not..... I love the music, and I love the hobbie, and I love >the >art.... and I do what I love...... period. > >Jason > > > > > > >At 4:42 PM -0400 5/27/99, DjShUbErT@aol.com wrote: > > >I dunno if anyone else heard this but Junior Vasquez was payed ( I read > >in > > >Mimag ) $100,000 for a full on 12 hour set at a club in the UK ..now > >that's > > >overpayed !!!! > >TWELVE HOUR SET? He stood in one place, spinning records, matching beats, >mixing tunes for TWELVE HOURS? I have seen Doc Martin do a 6-hour set and >it >looked like work. I can't imagine what a 12-hour set would take out of you. > >The Rolling Stones only play for an hour and a half. > >Anyone here spin a 12-hour set? > >K > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 00:11:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11320 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 00:11:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 11308 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 00:11:21 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 00:11:21 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (8041) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vWERa03096 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 20:10:18 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <26c2761e.247f38ea@aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 20:10:18 EDT Subject: Riddle Time To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Good Luck I am the black child of a white father, a wingless bird, flying even to the clouds of heaven. I give birth to tears of mourning in pupils that meet me, even though there is no cause for grief, and at once on my birth I am dissolved into air. Answer tommarow Love and light Redneck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 00:25:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18230 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 00:25:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 18218 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 00:25:47 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 00:25:47 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (8041) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id cBHTa02603; Thu, 27 May 1999 20:21:58 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <5e28b075.247f3ba5@aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 20:21:57 EDT Subject: Re: Riddle Time To: mcarey@triad.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Nope not rain cloud << rain cloud? M<>< >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 00:31:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20950 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 00:31:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 20942 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 00:31:34 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 00:31:34 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (8041) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vZJFa02743; Thu, 27 May 1999 20:29:53 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <6eaa1f3d.247f3d80@aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 20:29:52 EDT Subject: Re: Riddle Time To: TonicBond@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Nope Nope and Nope TonicBond writes: << Voice, song, or music... light? >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 00:32:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21665 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 00:32:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 21650 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 00:32:06 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 00:32:06 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (8041) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id cNZHa26412; Thu, 27 May 1999 20:30:26 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 20:30:25 EDT Subject: Re: Riddle Time To: michaelb@cwo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Nope sorry michaelb@cwo.com writes: << is it a stormcloud? thanks, mike >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 00:37:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25400 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 00:37:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 25277 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 00:37:00 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 00:37:00 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (14423) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rKEJa03101; Thu, 27 May 1999 20:35:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <8ca1f434.247f3ed7@aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 20:35:35 EDT Subject: Re: ? FOR DJs To: ana-kin@eudoramail.com, mathsound@hotmail.com, SFRAVES@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/27/99 6:52:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ana-kin@eudoramail.com writes: << **Or rather, when you discovered "Battle DJing". >> well i kinda ment when the skillz startedd to turn up a knotch.... ala invisibl skratch piklz sorry for the confusion From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 00:45:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29254 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 00:44:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 29245 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 00:44:56 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 00:44:56 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (14423) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vKIJa03188; Thu, 27 May 1999 20:43:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <1e5db0de.247f40c1@aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 20:43:45 EDT Subject: Re: Riddle Time To: WhrDaMud@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/27/99 8:11:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, WhrDaMud@aol.com writes: << I am the black child of a white father, a wingless bird, flying even to the clouds of heaven. I give birth to tears of mourning in pupils that meet me, even though there is no cause for grief, and at once on my birth I am dissolved into air. >> hmmm...is it Arnold from Different Strokes on angel dust before the end of the season?> hey remember mr.drummen?? DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 00:45:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 394 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 00:45:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 382 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 00:45:25 -0000 Received: from pimout4-ext.prodigy.net (HELO pimout4-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.58.198) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 00:45:25 -0000 Received: from prodigy.net (SNFCB605-02.splitrock.net [209.252.6.2]) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA80302; Thu, 27 May 1999 20:45:19 -0400 Message-ID: <374DE63C.B867AAC8@prodigy.net> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 17:41:33 -0700 From: JOELANZON Reply-To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason.LEE@adecco.com CC: becky thorton , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 12 hour sets References: <8825677E.0083AC6D.00@boxster.hq.adia> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I know Junior Vasquez and Danny Tenaglia are legendary for there extended sets. Danny Tenaglia is playing over in the UK at an upcoming festival and he's playing a 10 hour set. And Junior Vasquez plays like 14 hour sets every saturday through sunday. When he was out here doing some philips promo thing I was talking to him about those, He said that sometimes he would get caught up talking to somebody in the booth during his sets and the he would accidentally let the record end and the crowd would think it was all part of the set. He would just crank the bass knobs up to get feedback and then mix in some new record. I thought that was pretty funny. He also said that his dj booth has its own bathroom. I know some clubs in the UK have toilets in the booth as well. I remember reading a story on how Carl Cox mistakenly thought that there was a toilet under the DJ booth and proceeded to take a whizz all over the DJ before hims jacket. : D Funny stuff! -peace- Joe Lanzon Jason.LEE@adecco.com wrote: > I think thats why they made those 12+ minute remixes ;) > > Jason > > When do you goto the bathroom?!?! ;) > > love n plur > becky > > I've done a 12+ hour set befor in Florida, probably the best set I've ever done. > It was indeed alot of work, but then again when you love the music and you love > what your doing, the time is of no essence. I liked doing that long of a set > becuase I could take it where ever I wanted, I could play all the music that I > wanted to play, and I could really really project the journey through music that > I've allways wanted to project..... the people loved it... and stayed till the > bitter end.... it was truley a memorable moment, but the issue was started on > the basis of how much a popular dj got paid, let me tell you that the 12 hour > set I did was for free.... the tables were my own, and everything I contributed > then was of me...... and I can honestly say I got so much satisfaction from > that then I would probably have gotten from any amount of money, now don't get > me wrong I would not turn down the money, but the money would deffinately not be > the reason to do such an endeavor again.... and again.... and again..... so to > add to this thread as well as another thread stating whether or not being a top > dj is of any importance, well I think it all boils down to one thing...... the > reason you are djing..... the fame or the money..... I dunno, for me famous or > not rich or not..... I love the music, and I love the hobbie, and I love the > art.... and I do what I love...... period. > > Jason > > >At 4:42 PM -0400 5/27/99, DjShUbErT@aol.com wrote: > > >I dunno if anyone else heard this but Junior Vasquez was payed ( I read > >in > > >Mimag ) $100,000 for a full on 12 hour set at a club in the UK ..now > >that's > > >overpayed !!!! > > TWELVE HOUR SET? He stood in one place, spinning records, matching beats, > mixing tunes for TWELVE HOURS? I have seen Doc Martin do a 6-hour set and it > looked like work. I can't imagine what a 12-hour set would take out of you. > > The Rolling Stones only play for an hour and a half. > > Anyone here spin a 12-hour set? > > K From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 00:50:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3918 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 00:50:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 3908 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 00:50:52 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 00:50:52 -0000 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.9.3/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA10408; Thu, 27 May 1999 17:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 17:50:50 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-Sender: andy@atari Reply-To: AndyW To: p-stash ### cc: SFRAVES@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: ? FOR DJs In-Reply-To: <19990527210100.35199.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 27 May 1999, p-stash ### wrote: -&e->I asked this question on the F-8 list and got good responses, so i'll -&e->ask it to all the DJs on this list... -&e-> -&e->Do you have hopes of being a professional Dj, and if so, how do you -&e->plan on getting to that level? I have hopes of being a damn good DJ, a crafty DJ, a clean mixing DJ, one who never plays the same set twice, one who adapts to their environment, one that makes people's asses shake until they just plain lose reason, a dj that flows between techno and trance and house and whatever else, and plays those tracks that people don't even realize they wanted to hear. If I continue to get paid for certain parties, fine... but aspiring solely to make money (that's how I understand the term professional) at DJing seems like a compromise of values to me. So, in a way, I'm already a 'professional' as are you and any other DJs that get paid from time to time. I don't know if I'd ever quit my day job to spin exclusively, cause I'd hate to have to depend on the popularity of what I choose to spin to be my bread and butter... I've been flown in for parties, I've been double booked, I've showed up to parties for my set and left afterwards, I've played 2x4 slots with some people that I really respect that inspired me to do this in the first place... and in the end... It gets weird... there's a point where you find yourself getting booked for parties that you wouldn't pay to get into, and you start seeing what you'd like to do and what pays the bills as two different things. When those two points get far enough apart, you're selling out... plain and simple. I've started turning down certain bookings recently, because the money isn't worth being part of a party I don't support fully (either a crowd I don't feel give a rat's ass about the music, or a promoter I think is fucked up, etc). These amazing nights should be about unity and growth and fulfillment of the desire to be part of a larger, beautiful whole... not about whether you're making nothing or $10,000 a night. The DJ needs to get back to being part of the family, rather than a rock star showing up for the money a few minutes before their set and not hanging out so the promoters get their draw. Peace, AndyW From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 01:02:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9542 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 01:02:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 9515 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 01:02:52 -0000 Received: from pop04.iname.net (165.251.8.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 01:02:52 -0000 Received: from tar-and-gravel ([206.25.144.218]) by pop04.iname.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id VAA00030; Thu, 27 May 1999 21:01:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990527175949.04482510@shell4.ba.best.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 18:00:37 -0700 To: Megatron45@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: ry-N Subject: Re: Riddle Time In-Reply-To: <1e5db0de.247f40c1@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > >hmmm...is it Arnold from Different Strokes on angel dust before the end of >the season?> hey remember mr.drummen?? > >DJMEGATRON:mechasoul > whatchoo talkin about Willis? (canned laughter) Ryan ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 01:16:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15401 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 01:16:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 15372 invoked by uid 233); 28 May 1999 01:16:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 9106 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 19:04:04 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 19:04:04 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (399) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLEKa02587 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:03:05 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:03:04 EDT Subject: Re: A Call Out to All Promoters To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk First off please dont generalize promoters. I dont promote my parties to all ages. This is an issue which I feel strongly about. My parties are always 21+ for this reason. I do think that the younger generation has alot to offer and Im more than willing to find away to brain storm and organize something to support that. Im willing and able to do my part as a promoter. I loved Terry's post earlier and think he made some wonderful and valid points. I dont want anyone to think Im against the younger crowd, because I am not. I just want to see some responsibility in parties. If your doing an all age party it should never be an all nighter. And I dont care what anyone else says. Someone 16 should not be out parting till 6am. And Im not for segregation or seperation. I dont believe in that either. But I dont feel this is what we are talking about. I remember going to every high school dance that we had, hell I was the one putting them together. And I loved the music and I loved to dance. But not once was there ever "e" or pot smoking going on. And now when Im at parties thats all I see. Not by everyone, but by enough people to make it an issue. I hate to say it but all age parties are geared towards this. Why would someone promote a party for all ages to run all night long. How many kids have biological clocks which allow them to stay up till 6 or 7 am with out getting sleepy and tired. Its the drugs that keep them going. And Im not preaching here either. Im genuinely concerned that the innocence of our youth is vanishing. When I was 16 non of this would have been an issue. But times have changed and so it has become an issue. So I challenge all other promoters to step up and do something right. It wont be easy but some say they are in it for the love of the scene and the music. Do whats right here. For go your pocket books and make a difference. If you are having an all age party and its after hours have the under 18 bring an adult to get them in the door. Not just any adult but a parent. The parent doesnt have to stay just show up with them. Or have them bring a permission slip. And have a dead line for permission slip submissions. That way you can verify the info on them. Tough love is not always easy. Life isnt the scene or the music. Its composed of the song you write, sing, and dance to. Peace, M Groove On From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 01:19:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18993 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 01:19:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 18985 invoked by uid 233); 28 May 1999 01:19:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 13268 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 21:58:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.starfish.com) (208.222.97.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 May 1999 21:58:23 -0000 Received: from BKAGAN ([192.216.180.184]) by mail.starfish.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52234U200L100S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:46:15 -0700 Message-ID: <000f01bea6f9$55ecc380$b8b4d8c0@BKAGAN.starfish.com> From: "Bradley Kagan" To: Subject: Fw: NRR-Help a freind graduate Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 14:55:42 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01BEA6BE.A9219520" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BEA6BE.A9219520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry, I forgot to include my address. bkagan@starfish.com=20 -----Original Message----- From: Bradley Kagan To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 10:27 AM Subject: NRR-Help a freind graduate Hello Everybody, I have a friend who is doing her final report on the underground scene = and the music. Her main focus is the history of the music, the raves and = the gear used to create this music. She asked me to ask all of you for = help. Any info or good web site's would be greatly appreciated. Here are = some of the questions she is asking but please feel free to stray from = these and input some of your own knowledge. 1. Who was the first production co. in the U.S.? 2. Who were some of the first people to spin techno? 3. Where and when did the underground scene start and how? 4. How has the scene changed and has it matured or regressed? 5. What were some of the first pieces of gear used to produce this = music? 6. How has all the new gear ( groove boxes, synth's, drum machines) = changed the music? 7. Why dont the major record companies support the underground music? 8. Why dont the major U.S promoters (Paramount, Capitol, MCA) support = our scene? Also, if anyone can send some good sites for pictures of rave's and DJ's = spinning it would be helpful. Any input is good input and she will = really appreciate it. She has somewhat of a start but she needs more = info and does not know where to look. Her report is due Friday. She has = her conclusion and introduction done but she still needs some bulk to = it. She has to pass this report to graduate. Then she is on to San Jose = State. A pre-thank you to all who reply. Your help is greatly = appreciated. = Love, = Brad ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BEA6BE.A9219520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry, I forgot to include my = address. bkagan@starfish.com =
 
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Bradley Kagan <bradley.kagan@starfish.com= >
To:=20 sfraves@hyperreal.org = <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
Date:=20 Tuesday, May 25, 1999 10:27 AM
Subject: NRR-Help a freind=20 graduate

Hello Everybody,
I have a friend who is doing her = final report on=20 the underground scene and the music. Her main focus is the history of = the music,=20 the raves and the gear used to create this music. She asked me to ask = all of you=20 for help. Any info or good web site's would be greatly appreciated. Here = are=20 some of the questions she is asking but please feel free to stray from = these and=20 input some of your own knowledge.
1. Who was the first production co. = in the=20 U.S.?
2. Who were some of the first people = to spin=20 techno?
3. Where and when did the = underground scene=20 start and how?
4. How has the scene changed and has = it matured=20 or regressed?
5. What were some of the first = pieces of gear=20 used to produce this music?
6. How has all the new gear ( groove = boxes,=20 synth's, drum machines) changed the music?
7. Why dont the major record = companies support=20 the underground music?
8. Why dont the major U.S promoters = (Paramount,=20 Capitol, MCA) support our scene?
 
Also, if anyone can send some good sites for = pictures of=20 rave's and DJ's spinning it would be helpful. Any input is good input = and she=20 will really appreciate it. She has somewhat of a start but she needs = more info=20 and does not know where to look. Her report is due Friday. She has her=20 conclusion and introduction done but she still needs some bulk to it. = She has to=20 pass this report to graduate. Then she is on to San Jose State. A = pre-thank you=20 to all who reply. Your help is greatly appreciated.
          &nbs= p;            = ;            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;       =20 Love,
          &nbs= p;            = ;            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;=20 Brad
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BEA6BE.A9219520-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 01:32:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27149 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 01:32:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 27141 invoked by uid 233); 28 May 1999 01:32:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 24624 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 20:55:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.manage.com) (209.133.29.51) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 May 1999 20:55:11 -0000 Received: by mail1.manage.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:57:08 -0700 Message-ID: <21D0E5B50012D211AB7D006008C025B639B4C4@mail1.manage.com> From: Richard English To: 'greg' , sfraves , fnf Subject: RE: [fnf] [bsp]RENEGADE--FRIDAY NIGHT!! Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:57:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BEA7BA.50C5A730" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEA7BA.50C5A730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" fuck noooooo - the actual v.m. # is 510.533.5832 & with your glass , bring rocks ,razor blades , & very sharp sticks ;D a smile = teeth - have a good 'un -----Original Message----- From: greg [mailto:greg@bass-station.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 1:41 PM To: sfraves; fnf Subject: [fnf] [bsp]RENEGADE--FRIDAY NIGHT!! For those of us not going to OODE this weekend, who would like to spend the entire weekend in a state of dance-induced bliss, Greg and Re-ach present: Friday night, May 28th Slap Me a return to the underbelly of the urban utopia. this is a true undergroud held on a piece of land in great upheaval, so bring everything you need for a riotous urban adventure: blankets, warm clothes, food and water to share, candles, toys, glass, eachother. We'll be getting started around midnight in a centrally located, easy to get to east bay location. Please follow the instructions on the VM so we can keep the party low profile and bust free. We'll probably be using cars to create a makeshift sound wall, so help us out, and in return you'll be parked closer to the event. The voice mail # for the event is 510-437-5250 Email greg@bass-station.com if you'd like to help out. We still need a genny- I'll pay for gas! your DJ's: [in no particular order] Greg [FnF] Re-ach [st@ic, A.R.M., FnF] Ethan [FnF] Miranda [Vulcan Studios] Ronan [Sweet, St. John's Divine Rhythm Society] ------------------------------------------------------------- FF-Planners is a closed list for discussion among the planners of the Friends and Family parties. List membership is only open to planners and participants in those parties, and must be approved by one of the list owners (currently Bryce Ryan, Ethan Miller, and Greg Paolino) ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEA7BA.50C5A730 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: [fnf] [bsp]RENEGADE--FRIDAY NIGHT!!

fuck noooooo - the actual v.m. # is 510.533.5832
& with your glass , bring rocks ,razor blades , & very sharp sticks ;D
a smile = teeth - have a good 'un
 

-----Original Message-----
From: greg [mailto:greg@bass-station.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 1:41 PM
To: sfraves; fnf
Subject: [fnf] [bsp]RENEGADE--FRIDAY NIGHT!!


For those of us not going to OODE this weekend, who would like to spend the
entire weekend in a state of dance-induced bliss, Greg and Re-ach present:
Friday night, May 28th
Slap Me
a return to the underbelly of the urban utopia.

this is a true undergroud held on a piece of land in great upheaval, so
bring everything you need for a riotous urban adventure: blankets, warm
clothes, food and water to share, candles, toys, glass, eachother.

We'll be getting started around midnight in a centrally located, easy to get
to east bay location. Please follow the instructions on the VM so we can
keep the party low profile and bust free. We'll probably be using cars to
create a makeshift sound wall, so help us out, and in return you'll be
parked closer to the event.

The voice mail # for the event is 510-437-5250
Email greg@bass-station.com if you'd like to help out.
We still need a genny- I'll pay for gas!

your DJ's:  [in no particular order]
Greg [FnF]
Re-ach [st@ic, A.R.M., FnF]
Ethan [FnF]
Miranda [Vulcan Studios]
Ronan [Sweet, St. John's Divine Rhythm Society]

-------------------------------------------------------------
FF-Planners is a closed list for discussion among the
planners of the Friends and Family parties.  List membership
is only open to planners and participants in those parties,
and must be approved by one of the list owners (currently
Bryce Ryan, Ethan Miller, and Greg Paolino)

------_=_NextPart_001_01BEA7BA.50C5A730-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 01:37:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29383 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 01:37:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 29365 invoked by uid 233); 28 May 1999 01:37:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 2844 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 05:55:25 -0000 Received: from law2-f23.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.23) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 05:55:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 84172 invoked by uid 0); 27 May 1999 05:54:58 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527055458.84171.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.216.188.106 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 26 May 1999 22:54:58 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.216.188.106] From: "Dan and Jennifer Herron" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re:Trance rox! Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 22:54:58 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I've always been partial to trance...loved it from the very beginning. House ehhhh I can majorly do without. I'm not alone and why does it matter anyway. If everyone liked the same thing this world would be a very boring place. I love trance because it's the only other music besides classical that has caused me to cry from it's pure beauty. It gives me a sense of peace and nothing makes me move my butt to the music like trance. And may I add that I am not a candy kidd and it bothers me to see people generalizing..... Jennifer aka Chrysallys From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 01:37:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29774 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 01:37:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 29668 invoked by uid 233); 28 May 1999 01:37:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 4558 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 05:58:32 -0000 Received: from law2-f94.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.94) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 05:58:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 42407 invoked by uid 0); 27 May 1999 05:41:24 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527054124.42406.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.216.188.106 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 26 May 1999 22:41:23 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.216.188.106] From: "Dan and Jennifer Herron" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re:Trance Sux House Rox Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 22:41:23 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >trance is sum of the cheesiest corniest music u will ever hear, its for all >the candy kids with one to many glowsticks, obviously trance is just a small >candy kid fad, i mean, every1 in the uk and europe spin house, and they are >far ahead of us musically,andyway, house is bomb! > > >-ralph This is not true. If you go to the UK you will hear an abundance of all music styles including alot of Trance! Clubs tend to play house but even then there are huge trance, jungle and drum and base nights going off. Jennifer aka Chrysallys From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 01:40:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1790 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 01:40:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 1747 invoked by uid 233); 28 May 1999 01:40:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 28742 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 18:04:37 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 18:04:37 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA10083; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:03:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca12-25.ix.netcom.com(205.186.214.153) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma009668; Thu May 27 13:02:14 1999 Message-ID: <31A9EE08.DB86B6F1@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 11:01:45 -0700 From: Ray Vonie Organization: Feel Good Entertainment X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: WWoodliff@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: A Call Out to the Rest of the Promoters References: <57f1b107.247ec845@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I don't believe that any of the promoters you're referring to subscribe to SFRaves. Keep it mellow, Vlad WWoodliff@aol.com wrote: > O.K. I got a lot of responses to the first post but unfortunately > they were all from promoters who already practice what I would call "ethical > promotion." Now I don't want to have to start calling people out > individually and I don't want to turn this into something that it is not but > there are some very big promoters out there who have kept silent through this > whole debate. I would really like to know whether or not the safety of these > kids and the safety of our scene is more important then your bottom line and > what you are going to do about it. I have put the original post at the > bottom just in case you have forgotten or no longer have it. > > Much Love JonPaul > > I wrote this down in my last post but it was pretty long and I wouln't blame > anyone if they didn't make it this far. Making Parties 18&up isn't a solution > because like so many of you have pointed out they do bring an energy that > would be missed without there presents. But it is the promoting directly to > these kids that brings them out in such large numbers that needs to be > stopped, I am not saying this is the answer but it is a platform to start off > with. Kids will still get a hold of flyers and hear about the parties but > until you stop promoting to the high schools and putting out flyers in every > available corner you are the cause of the problem. Like Hak said what is > more important the $30 each of these kids bring in or their lives and their > future. You know better, would you want your son or daughter exposed to this > at such a young age? I want to hear your answers. I think everybody deserves > to hear why it is that you are promoting at high schools and strip malls. ! > > Just currious to see if you will respond JonPaul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 01:50:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5161 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 01:50:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 5128 invoked by uid 233); 28 May 1999 01:49:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 20755 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 23:40:17 -0000 Received: from postman.bayarea.net (205.219.84.13) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 23:40:17 -0000 Received: from baygate (baygate.bayarea.net [204.71.212.2]) by postman.bayarea.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18187 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:41:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Plastic Nuclear Ferret To: that raver mailing list Subject: have a good and safe weekend! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i'm outta here, headed for oregon. have a safe weekend everyone! 8^) shane -- ################################################################# # Shane Knapp # donut@bayarea.net # sknapp@excitecorp.com # # http://www.bayarea.net/~donut # # "I'd like to be Superman, but you're standing on my cape...." # ################################################################# From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 02:07:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13910 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 02:07:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 13885 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 02:07:46 -0000 Received: from falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.74) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 02:07:46 -0000 Received: from ianvogel (pool089-cvx.ds52-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.149.89]) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA10160 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 19:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <003201bea8ae$90dc86e0$5995b3d1@ianvogel> From: "Happy Kids" To: Subject: SPAM - paging SIMON APEX Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 19:05:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01BEA873.E3ACA340" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BEA873.E3ACA340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey simon, i REALLY need to talk to you. if anyone can give me contact = info for simon apex, please post back to me prvtly. thanks! lotsa love -i ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BEA873.E3ACA340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BEA873.E3ACA340-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 02:10:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14906 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 02:09:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 14886 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 02:09:52 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 02:09:52 -0000 Received: from Anachra@aol.com (14375) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPOFa08612; Thu, 27 May 1999 22:08:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Anachra@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 22:08:14 EDT Subject: Re: Riddle Time To: WhrDaMud@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk SMOKE THE ANSWER IS SMOKE!#%@$^#$^ i think (: spacey I am the black child of a white father, a wingless bird, flying even to the clouds of heaven. I give birth to tears of mourning in pupils that meet me, even though there is no cause for grief, and at once on my birth I am dissolved into air. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 02:17:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21005 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 02:17:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 20987 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 02:17:44 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 02:17:44 -0000 Received: from SaMiENiTTy@aol.com (4421) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vYTYa14682 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 22:16:23 -0400 (EDT) From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Message-ID: <41f99a11.247f5677@aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 22:16:23 EDT Subject: BUTTERFLY??????? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk anyone have any info on this event????????? email me privately if so...thanx. ~Samantha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 02:32:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1004 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 02:31:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 892 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 02:31:55 -0000 Received: from web506.yahoomail.com (HELO send501.yahoomail.com) (128.11.68.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 02:31:55 -0000 Message-ID: <19990528023346.5127.rocketmail@send501.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.179.191.218] by web506.yahoomail.com; Thu, 27 May 1999 19:33:46 PDT Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 19:33:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Groovin Beats Subject: NRR: starwars lo tech style To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk this is a must see for any diehard starwars fans! http://www.fortunecity.com/tatooine/lucas/339/page1.html === -Ivan "So what's the speed of dark??" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 02:38:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3262 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 02:38:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 3254 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 02:38:22 -0000 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 02:38:22 -0000 Received: from tigger (dynamic23.pm11.sf3d.best.com [209.24.239.151]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id TAA16167 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 19:37:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990527193906.00b22ee0@pplus.shell16.ba.best.com> X-Sender: broo51-mike@pplus.shell16.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 19:44:02 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Mike Galetto Subject: Celebrate your night at FAITH! bsp Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Jump into our Transparent World! Celebrate your vibe tonight at FAITH! main room: Ruben Mancias 9:30-11pm John Howard 11-1am Sam S 1-3am front room: Jay-R all night long! http://www.blackstone-productions.com/faith/ Everyone have a great Thursday night.. wherever you find yourself! =) Mike Galetto Faith Family Have a little **FAITH** http://www.blackstone-productions.com/faith/ mike@blackstone-productions.com mike@sfclubs.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 03:38:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4801 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 03:38:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 4783 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 03:38:41 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?Jo0GjHuCFXkl+TEGiXsyxE8uGo9TSZDc?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 03:38:41 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id UAA26207; Thu, 27 May 1999 20:38:40 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 20:38:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org cc: sf-jungle@saturn5.com Subject: if you do not go to Eklektic tonight Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk then you will be stuck at home with turdz in your pantz and no Echo, and no DJ Sage, and no TeeBee. check it, criss tight Eklekka. 78 Minna St, between 1st-2nd-Mission-Howard, in SAN FRANSICKO 18+ 10p-2a not very expensive lots of cute people Fellas, big up the Slamming Fit Birds Committee for making sure that it is well stocked with slamming fit birds to look at and try to chat up. That is it. Innit. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 03:50:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10258 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 03:50:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 10241 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 03:50:40 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 03:50:40 -0000 Received: from Oct1faith@aol.com (8029) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNNKa02571 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 23:49:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Oct1faith@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 23:49:33 EDT Subject: Fwd: trance sux, house rox, what To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_cb191da7.247f6c4d_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_cb191da7.247f6c4d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_cb191da7.247f6c4d_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: Oct1faith@aol.com From: Oct1faith@aol.com Full-name: Oct1faith Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 23:48:07 EDT Subject: Re: trance sux, house rox To: BigM009@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 In a message dated 5/25/99 2:46:07 AM EST, BigM009@aol.com writes: > Have you ever > heard of a Dj named Paul Okenfold. Base salary of $400,000. He doesnt spin > > house my boy, he spins trance. I could go on and on but why. hey I heard of him. Paul Oakenfold let see hear.....came to my house an bought every classic house record he could find. OK enough with this trance vs House stuff. Paul is an old school Dj. also an Pro DJ. which means he will play anything that get the people dancing. THAT WHY HE MAKE $400,000. A couple of years ago he play house , more year before that he play....modern rock....remember the Manchester sound. So which Paul do you like ..TRance paul ..House paul ..or Machester paul. STOP WITH THIS. Djs change just like people do, scene do whatever. Sasha was by himself for awhile there untll Paul came aboard. or am I wrong. did I forget about BT, way out west,Digweed. what were they doing? before Trance. What is Trance anyway....call me stupid but I thought it was cool English Pop music As a DJ myself, I don't really get Trance music. I play alittle but the one I like sound housey. I guess I need some DJ to play it in a way so I can feel it.( Tracer) Well I could talk more but why. I love music an change. That why I am a promoter/DJ. peace, Blackstone PS I started off playing punk music on KALX in the 80's. an look at me now =) --part1_cb191da7.247f6c4d_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 04:05:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15697 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 04:05:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 15686 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 04:05:23 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 04:05:23 -0000 Received: from DjShUbErT@aol.com (3951) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLNGa08612 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 00:04:31 -0400 (EDT) From: DjShUbErT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 00:04:31 EDT Subject: Attn Djs: Help To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk anyone who has a copy of Gene Farris.. Visions of the Future on Force inc. and would like to sell/trade ..please email me privately Peace, Shubert From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 04:26:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22585 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 04:26:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 22576 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 04:26:21 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 04:26:21 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA25392; Thu, 27 May 1999 23:25:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca10-12.ix.netcom.com(205.186.214.12) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma025187; Thu May 27 23:24:28 1999 Message-ID: <374E1A5A.C317C00D@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 21:23:55 -0700 From: Ray Vonie Organization: Feel Good Entertainment X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: A Captivating Mix of Energies CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: ACME's promotion perspective. References: <19990527185628.88049.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Dave, Im glad to see you back in the swing of things, best of luck with your parties :) You've got all the right ideas. Keep it mellow, Vlad A Captivating Mix of Energies wrote: > Well, we're back. ACME Productions took a hiatus during the school year, as our studies always precede our parties... This summer we plan to get a few small parties off in the low-key way that most everyone loves. And I just wanted to take this opportunity to give my two cents on this promotion issue: > > Just a month ago we threw a party called 'ONE' up in Berkeley. As always we promoted very selectively, believing this to be the only way to ensure a good vibe (and it's not even insured then). We had about 85-90 people show up, which was damn good for a Tuesday night and ten days of promotion, but we failed to reach the break-even point of 110 people. So we lost money, so what? > > Well, I think this is the driving force behind the overcharging and reckless promoting that seems to be the complaint at hand. If the promoters could rid themselves of the fear of losing their ass over a party, and get back to where the focus should be (good music, good people, good lovin') then the party would be a success by it's own nature. > > A wise man in the ways of raving once told me this: "The party comes from the heart of the promoter. If you go at it with good selfless intentions, then it'll go off. But if you're wrapped up in things like money or fame, then it'll show." Most of you will find it hard to believe that this was our own Vlad @ feelgood entertainment. Kinda backwards, eh? > > Back to the point, three things will bring about this 'change' in the scene that is so desired: > > 1) Promoters must be true to their beliefs, and be up-front about them to their following. This way everyone is on the same page. > > 2) Ravers need to go to the kind of parties they LOVE... not just the ones they like. This is like selective boycotting in a way, as the good crews will shape up, and the others will ship out. > > 3) Promoters: Chill out. When I first got into this I wanted to have the biggest badest party ever. Not that I'm a seasoned promoter by any means, but we need to take our time with this change so as to not topple the existing scene, but to change the existing structure to what we love. > > That being said, I'd like to extend our helping arms to any promoters who are in the quest of this. A Captivating Mix of Energies will be putting 2-5 parties together before the school-year starts again and we go back to our caves. > > So, I wish us all a good summer, and party hard :) > > Peace and Love, > Dave > > A message with Peace and Love, > 'A Captivating Mix of Energies' > (a.k.a. ACME Productions) > (510) 869-3769 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 05:13:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6758 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 05:12:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 6735 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 05:12:49 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd114.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.178) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 05:12:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 30469 invoked by uid 0); 28 May 1999 05:12:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990528051217.30468.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.72.4.88 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 27 May 1999 22:12:17 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.72.4.88] From: "David Ramirez" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: BIG TOP remenisce Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 22:12:17 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i remember dat party.. i was supposed to go but i got faked on like always.. i still got that flyer though!.. ----Original Message Follows---- From: Max McCauley To: Greg Adair CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: BIG TOP remenisce Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:25:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From sfraves-owner-raver_hp Thu May 27 16:26:02 1999 Received: from [209.133.83.16] by hotmail.com (1.5) with SMTP id MHotMailB9171F8A001ED101707DD18553100A100; Thu May 27 16:26:02 1999 Received: (qmail 9147 invoked by uid 6000); 27 May 1999 23:25:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 9138 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 23:25:53 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?cgq3P8IQ+MQL2Z/o0XwjdkXx/0r/lJit?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 May 1999 23:25:53 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost)by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id QAA16517; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:25:51 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Man, that night Grooverider only played for like an hour and he hit it from every position available. I think I was pretty close to dying of a bloodclot heartattack when he dropped the Grooverider Jeep Beat Mix of Share the Fall that had everyone brocking out for months to come. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 05:59:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20779 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 05:59:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 20761 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 05:59:01 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 05:59:00 -0000 From: "Creamy Goodness" Subject: Howdy Howdy once again To: "All those that love cheese" X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.2.9b5 Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 23:00:57 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey kids, Well, I am back, not that anyone really cares, so, hello again. I am hoping the maturity levels have risen a little bit, but, I doubt they have. Steve AKA Creamy Goodness Steve Best NOC Engineer Excite@home From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 06:08:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25515 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 06:08:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 25502 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 06:08:53 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 06:08:53 -0000 Received: from WizardCCCA@aol.com (7815) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id gYIEa02576; Fri, 28 May 1999 02:06:18 -0400 (EDT) From: WizardCCCA@aol.com Message-ID: <8ca35e22.247f8c5a@aol.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 02:06:18 EDT Subject: Re: Howdy Howdy once again To: steve@warmth.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Welcome back kiddo.... I!! missed you! Liz From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 06:14:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27572 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 06:14:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 27549 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 06:14:06 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 06:14:06 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA05840; Thu, 27 May 1999 23:13:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905280613.XAA05840@mail.netwiz.net> To: bradley.kagan@starfish.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Fw: NRR-Help a freind graduate In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 25 May 1999 14:55:42 -0700 Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 23:13:59 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > 1. Who was the first production co. in the U.S.? Not sure what you mean by production co. as far as labels/production perhaps Underground Resistance or Transmat? > 2. Who were some of the first people to spin techno? No point in spinning techno if it hasn't been produced yet. The producers of techno probably were the first to spin, e.g. Derrick May, Juan Atkins, Kevin Saunderson (the originators) and later Carl Craig, Stacey Pullen, etc. Anyways although it wasn't called "techno" also remember that europe had strong influcence too... Kraftwerk Germany late 70's), Yello (Switzerland early 80's), Giorgio Moroder (late 70's) come to mind. > 3. Where and when did the underground scene start and how? For "techno" i'd say Detroit in '85. For "house" Chicago and new york also around '85-87. For "rave" I'd say Ibiza spain and or London around '87. I'm not sure if it was "underground" just hard to find in the UK, but easy to find in Ibiza. I went to my first raves in Ibiza and London summer of 88 and was pretty much invited into the scene with open arms, so it didn't seem that "underground" to me. > 4. How has the scene changed and has it matured or regressed? It has gotten less diverse, less freaky, and more normal and mainstream (while developing bad traits like artifice, exclusivity, closemindedness and cliquishness). Basically a "high school" social attitude and segregation has invaded... Biff and Buffy have come in to pollute the scene with prejudice and smallmindedness, making the current underground scene about as enjoyable and socially normative/stifling as a high school prom. It hasn't matured or regressed, it has metasticized. > 5. What were some of the first pieces of gear used to produce this = > music? Moog, Arp Odyssey, Roland Jupiter 8, etc in terms of the oldest of euro-art-rock and synth-rock. Later Roland's TB303 bass-line and 808 drum machine for "techno" (and hiphop)... and perhaps the old ensoniq 8 bit sampling keyboards from the 80's which also spawned hip-hop, with the euro-artsty-fartsy side using fairlights and emulators (which cost more than the houses the early detroit techno gods lived in). > 6. How has all the new gear ( groove boxes, synth's, drum machines) = > changed the music? Made it easier, more reliable, easier to consolidate control in a computer w/ a better user interface. Made people with almost no skill whatsoever be able to diddle around with preset arpeggiator sequences and call it "trance" and somehow people are on so many drugs they consider this musical and innovative and spiritual, while i think it sounds like someone diddling with an arpeggiator with absolutely no skill whatsoever. (Emporors new clothes syndrome that happens when you don't take drugs to enjoy music). If you go back and listen to the originators of the sound, what's most striking are the FUNKY FUNKY FUNKY sounds "Model 500" or "Rhythm is Rhythim" could get out of obsolete, butt-simple equipment like the 808 and 303 through simple force of will and a strong background in the psychedelic funk/jazz of the day (e.g. Parliament, Funkadelic, Sun Ra, etc). > 7. Why dont the major record companies support the underground music? They do. Look at Madonna's latest, or Bjork's. Produced by formerly starving and disrespected producers like Mark Bell but distributed on a major label with major marketing and airplay. Underground is no more. It's mainstream, except in amerikkka, where some are still concerned it might be considered "disco" and they might get called "fags"... (as far as I'm concerned, if you do something that gets you called "fag" in amerikkka, you're doing the right thing... and it has nothing to do with sexuality/orientation, just with pissing off close-minded people who can't see past their sick & repressed culture). > 8. Why dont the major U.S promoters (Paramount, Capitol, MCA) support = > our scene? because there's a bunch of middle-aged rockers in there that cut their teeth on a "death to disco" mentality that was rammed down mainstream amerikkka's throat in the late 70s and early 80's and they're afraid that their heterosexuality would be challenged if they stopped listening to pathetic ballads about some loser's small-town white trash sexual conquests predominently occurring while driving around in a firebird or camaro and exceeding the speed limit. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 07:14:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22132 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 07:14:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 22110 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 07:14:04 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 07:14:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19990528071237.26465.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.170.31.169] by web4; Fri, 28 May 1999 00:12:37 PDT Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 00:12:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Joaqman Subject: professionalism To: p-stash ### , SFRAVES@HYPERREAL.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i am a professional. professionalism is how you carry yourself, not how much money/ cas$h you make. course i would love to be paid more for all of the hours i devote to the underground, but it will come in time. i will not go away, the bass and snare are my friends. i will follow the bass line thumps. plus i'm addicted to vinyl so what else can i be when i grow up? in it to win it and love it, joaqman ---p-stash ### wrote: > > I asked this question on the F-8 list and got good responses, so i'll ask it > to all the DJs on this list... > > Do you have hopes of being a professional Dj, and if so, how do you plan on > getting to that level? > > cool, late. pistachio > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 10:01:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4715 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 10:01:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 4667 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 10:01:28 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 10:01:28 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (8051) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vMRGa15042 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 06:00:56 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <6a712451.247fc357@aol.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 06:00:55 EDT Subject: Answer to yesterdays riddle was.... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Anachra@aol.com got the riddle correct it was, SMOKE From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 10:06:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5665 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 10:06:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 5642 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 10:06:30 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd123.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.187) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 10:06:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 93990 invoked by uid 0); 28 May 1999 10:06:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19990528100603.93989.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.140.3.201 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 28 May 1999 03:06:03 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.140.3.201] From: "dj _haK" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: eklektic rocks the bells Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 03:06:03 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk this has to be the best jungle/hip.trip.hop joint on the west coast. saw tee-bee tonite rewind abtract's new track. tee-bee rewinding tech itch 'rebirth' x3. then downstairs hearing the bassbin twins w/uberzone w/krs and mad peeps going off! seriously, most people drool of having a joint like this by them (metalheadz=london), and we do! damn, freesh, fat, deep, subbase all nite long, hak From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 10:47:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16165 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 10:47:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 16120 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 10:47:20 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 10:47:20 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (8051) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vZQIa08612 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 06:46:26 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 06:46:26 EDT Subject: Riddle time To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Did ya'll get the right answer? only one person got it right and that was Anachra. Good luck on todays: What walks on all 4's in the morning, walks on 2 legs in the afternoon, and walks on 3 in the evening? Answer: Tomarrow From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 12:08:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2986 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 12:08:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 2970 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 12:08:13 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 12:08:13 -0000 Received: from Kitana3737@aol.com (322) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNWZa26942; Fri, 28 May 1999 08:07:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Kitana3737@aol.com Message-ID: <19bc192a.247fe0f9@aol.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 08:07:21 EDT Subject: Re: Riddle time To: WhrDaMud@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk human! this is.... an old riddle that oedipus solved, didn`t he? or something..... all i know is that it was in the oedipus cycle by sophocles. okay. because in the "morning" as a baby, the human is on all fours. in the "afternoon" as a young man, he is on two legs, standing up tall. and in the "evening" as an old man, he is on three, two legs and a cane. well i guess i don`t get any credit since i`m not the smart one that solved this but HEY. i can feel smart if i want okay? :) muchlove, ~*MicHeLLe*~ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 14:11:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18599 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 14:11:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 18591 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 14:11:41 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 14:11:41 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.194] (libya-194.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.194]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA22075; Fri, 28 May 1999 07:11:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 07:34:34 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Fri) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello...today's quote is... Love your kids now while they are young. ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 14:24:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24479 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 14:24:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 24471 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 14:24:35 -0000 Received: from charon-2.shell.nl (firewall-user@192.87.147.101) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 14:24:35 -0000 Received: by charon-2.shell.nl; id QAA06737; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:24:16 +0200 Received: from rijpats6104.scis.shell.nl(145.26.80.33) by charon-2.shell.nl via smap (4.1) id xma004954; Fri, 28 May 99 16:21:40 +0200 Received: by rijpats6104.scis.shell.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:21:40 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Jacobson, Daryll SSI-TSEA-L311" To: "'sfraves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: A new Riddle for you all..... Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:21:35 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk A father and son are walking down the street and cross the road to go into a store. As they cross the road, they get hit by a car that seemed to come out of nowhere...... The Ambulance picks them both up and rushes them to hospital- upon arrival, they are admitted into the A & E department. The father is up and back on his feet soon, after being treated for minor cuts and bruises, but the son requires an operation... The son is wheeled into the operating theatre, and the surgeon walks over to begin the op- just then, the surgeon looks down at the injured boy, and say; "I can't operate on this boy- he is my son" Explain..... (should be an easy one....) > Daryll Jacobson > Desktop Support > ________________________________________ > > SHELL SERVICES INTERNATIONAL LIMITED > Infrastructure Technology Services Europe & Africa > Shell Centre, Waterloo, London SE1 7NA > Phone: (+44) 0171-934-2530 > FAX: (+44) 0171-934-7609 > Internet: daryll.d.jacobson@IS.shell.com > ________________________________________ > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 15:12:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20891 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 15:12:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 20867 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 15:12:30 -0000 Received: from netcom12.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.124) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 15:12:30 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom12.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id IAA03939; Fri, 28 May 1999 08:12:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 08:12:27 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Re: Riddle time To: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 28 May 1999 WhrDaMud@aol.com wrote: > What walks on all 4's in the morning, > walks on 2 legs in the afternoon, > and walks on 3 in the evening? > Vegas Rick? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 15:34:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3161 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 15:34:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 3149 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 15:34:53 -0000 Received: from mole.slip.net (207.171.193.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 15:34:53 -0000 Received: from [207.171.214.12] (helo=exchange1.vertical.com) by mole.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 10nOen-0005wj-00; Fri, 28 May 1999 08:34:49 -0700 Received: by Exchange1.vertical.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 28 May 1999 08:30:52 -0700 Message-ID: From: Monique Whittaker To: "'Jacobson, Daryll SSI-TSEA-L311'" , "'sfraves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: RE: A new Riddle for you all..... Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 08:29:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The surgeon is his mom. -----Original Message----- From: Jacobson, Daryll SSI-TSEA-L311 [mailto:Daryll.D.Jacobson@IS.shell.com] Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 7:22 AM To: 'sfraves@hyperreal.org' Subject: A new Riddle for you all..... A father and son are walking down the street and cross the road to go into a store. As they cross the road, they get hit by a car that seemed to come out of nowhere...... The Ambulance picks them both up and rushes them to hospital- upon arrival, they are admitted into the A & E department. The father is up and back on his feet soon, after being treated for minor cuts and bruises, but the son requires an operation... The son is wheeled into the operating theatre, and the surgeon walks over to begin the op- just then, the surgeon looks down at the injured boy, and say; "I can't operate on this boy- he is my son" Explain..... (should be an easy one....) > Daryll Jacobson > Desktop Support > ________________________________________ > > SHELL SERVICES INTERNATIONAL LIMITED > Infrastructure Technology Services Europe & Africa > Shell Centre, Waterloo, London SE1 7NA > Phone: (+44) 0171-934-2530 > FAX: (+44) 0171-934-7609 > Internet: daryll.d.jacobson@IS.shell.com > ________________________________________ > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 15:39:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6720 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 15:39:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 6708 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 15:39:35 -0000 Received: from charon-2.shell.nl (firewall-user@192.87.147.101) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 15:39:35 -0000 Received: by charon-2.shell.nl; id RAA01171; Fri, 28 May 1999 17:39:23 +0200 Received: from rijpats6104.scis.shell.nl(145.26.80.33) by charon-2.shell.nl via smap (4.1) id xma000430; Fri, 28 May 99 17:37:37 +0200 Received: by rijpats6104.scis.shell.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 28 May 1999 17:37:36 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Jacobson, Daryll SSI-TSEA-L311" To: "'sfraves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: FW: A new Riddle for you all..... Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 17:37:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > -----Original Message----- > From: Jacobson, Daryll SSI-TSEA-L311 > Sent: 28 May 1999 16:37 > To: 'Luckys0ul7@aol.com' > Cc: 'Jen Stiling' > Subject: RE: A new Riddle for you all..... > > Cool- > > you both got it ok!!! > > I just wanted to ask this riddle to prove a theory of mine- > > I asked 10 people over here in the UK the same thing, and 8 of them simply > didn't get it- even though it is sooo simple when you have a non sexist > attitude to life- I though that everyone in the SF mailing list is a lot > more open minded and progresive in this area, > so I posted it- > > thanks guys!!!! > > see you in July!!!!! > > Daryll Jacobson > Desktop Support > ________________________________________ > > SHELL SERVICES INTERNATIONAL LIMITED > Infrastructure Technology Services Europe & Africa > Shell Centre, Waterloo, London SE1 7NA > Phone: (+44) 0171-934-2530 > FAX: (+44) 0171-934-7609 > Internet: daryll.d.jacobson@IS.shell.com > ________________________________________ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Luckys0ul7@aol.com [SMTP:Luckys0ul7@aol.com] > Sent: 28 May 1999 15:35 > To: Jacobson, Daryll SSI-TSEA-L311 > Subject: Re: A new Riddle for you all..... > > the doc is his mom, right? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 15:57:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20667 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 15:57:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 20655 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 15:57:47 -0000 Received: from jmail.co.jp (HELO calvin.iac.co.jp) (209.85.120.230) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 15:57:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 10969 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 15:58:02 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO jmail.co.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 May 1999 15:58:02 -0000 From: "ProtoTypical Chris" Reply-to: prototype@raveaddict.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 08:58:02 GST -1080 Subject: Fuck the riddles Message-id: <374ebd0a.2ad7.0@jmail.co.jp> X-User-Info: 171.133.216.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone agree with me in thinking that lame riddles are N.ot R.ave R.elated? Especially simple ones that everyone knows like the Riddle of the Sphinx. -=ProtoTypical Chris=- >><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><><><><><><><><><><> Like my COOL email address? Get one like it FREE at http://www.MUSICOSM.com ! Visit today! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 16:00:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23412 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 16:00:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 23403 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 16:00:42 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 16:00:42 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (14380) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vGKQa05857 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 11:59:58 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <4cb18446.2480177e@aol.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:59:58 EDT Subject: Re: Fuck the riddles To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yes I agree that riddles are NRR. However, lighten up. This is also a place for everyone to socialize and have fun too. Peace, M Groove On From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 16:04:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27048 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 16:04:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 27038 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 16:04:43 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 16:04:43 -0000 Received: from BGChris420@aol.com (14436) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vXXEa15563 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 12:03:31 -0400 (EDT) From: BGChris420@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 12:03:31 EDT Subject: Re: A new Riddle for you all..... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The doctor is the boy's mother. Right???? Peace, Chris From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 16:06:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28165 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 16:06:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 28143 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 16:06:13 -0000 Received: from jmail.co.jp (HELO calvin.iac.co.jp) (209.85.120.230) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 16:06:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 15482 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 16:06:28 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO jmail.co.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 May 1999 16:06:28 -0000 From: "ProtoTypical Chris" Reply-to: prototype@raveaddict.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, BigM009@aol.com Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:06:28 GST -1080 Subject: Re: Fuck the riddles Message-id: <374ebf04.3c62.0@jmail.co.jp> X-User-Info: 171.133.216.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Yes I agree that riddles are NRR. However, lighten up. This is also a place >for everyone to socialize and have fun too. Peace, M > >Groove On I understand that, but people have filters for a reason. I had to manually delete like 15-20 messages on those damn riddles. -=ProtoTypical Chris=- >><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><><><><><><><><><><> Like my COOL email address? Get one like it FREE at http://www.MUSICOSM.com ! Visit today! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 16:07:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 261 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 16:07:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 118 invoked by uid 233); 28 May 1999 16:07:37 -0000 Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:07:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Lara To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Riddles are NRR please! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Read the subject of this message. I've been meaning to post about general SFR posting lately, but haven't had time. PLEASE if you feel the need to post riddles to this list, use the NRR (Not Rave-Related) tag on them for the sake of our filtering members, and for the sanity of myself. Thanks in advance. Lara:) ---- "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." -- Oscar Wilde From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 16:08:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1360 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 16:08:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 1176 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 16:08:32 -0000 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 16:08:32 -0000 Received: from [204.156.153.232] (webweavr.vip.best.com [204.156.153.232]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id JAA11939 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: chris@taz.hyperreal.org Message-Id: Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:04:05 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Chris Subject: Please send Terence McKenna your healing prayers Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Some of you on the group may know or know of Terence McKenna from his fascinating explorations of philosophy and ethnobotany and his incredibly positive spirit. Well, I am very sad to pass on the very bad news that Terence is *very* ill with what is basically a very serious, almost certainly inoperable brain tumor. Terence is currently in a hospital in Hawaii, and his family and friends are at his side. The prognosis is not good. >From an email from Dennis, his brother: "Terence has touched our hearts and minds. He is now in the thoughts of many, and has reported that the love and good energy being sent his way at this time is palpable. I've been asked to let people know that on Sunday, May 30 at 2:00 pm people worldwide will be sending Terence their good thoughts and healing energy. The combined focus of thousands of minds at one time certainly can't hurt, and may well help. Please take the time to join in, and pass this message along to everyone who should know." His situation is stable now, but he has been given three alternatives in the way of treatment, none of which look at all promising in terms of being able to extend his survival beyond a fairly short period of time. Obviously, his friends and family are trying to find alternative treatments. (The current plan is to use a "gamma knife" - a noninvasive radiation procedure, but one which causes some *serious* problems in it's immediate aftermath..) ... "Terence needs your hopes, prayers, and good vibes, as much as you can send, however you think appropriate, more than ever now." "The tumor is lodged so deeply in the brain, and is located in such a place, that surgical removal is probably not an option. There is a significant chance he would not survive it, or survive it but remain in a coma with severely impaired functions, or (the most optimistic scenario) survive with impaired functions that could be recovered partially through rehabilitation. The problem is that he would probably not survive long enough to complete rehabilitation." Again from Dennis: "Another option may exist in that there may be experimental therapies, and experimental treatment protocols, that would offer an alternative solution. We are looking into this very vigorously as you can imagine. There is a lot of active work in this area, but the question of qualifying to be included in the treatment protocol, the time to get in, etc. will all have to be sorted out. At this stage, we have not yet identified what experimental therapies may be appropriate. The doctor has given us some excellent leads and we welcome additional leads from one and all; rest assured, we're on it and any thing we turn up that looks promising will be included in the next update." ... If any friends have spirit-lightening email messages they want to send Dennis for Terence I'll forward them to him, and if anyone has any *serious* ideas for treatment (perhaps someone on the list has personal experience with or knows of same..) I'll forward that also. Please put "FOR DENNIS MCKENNA" in the subject line. Thank you Chris From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 16:10:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2725 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 16:10:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 2679 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 16:10:02 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 16:10:02 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (14380) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id pOXGa01450; Fri, 28 May 1999 12:08:01 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 12:07:32 EDT Subject: Re: Fuck the riddles To: prototype@raveaddict.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I agree everyone should us NRR on the subject. That way you show respect to the people who are usuing filters. Point taken. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 16:12:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5517 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 16:12:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 5370 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 16:12:06 -0000 Received: from www.bass-station.com (HELO bass-station.com) (206.111.131.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 16:12:06 -0000 Received: from inteva26 (206.111.131.80) by bass-station.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.1); Fri, 28 May 1999 09:06:24 -0700 Message-ID: <006e01bea924$e997a960$6a81a8c0@inteva26.topica.com> From: "greg" To: "sfraves" Subject: RENEGADE Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:12:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey all you freex-n-ravers! we haven't forgotten ya! the voice mail we posted yesterday is hosed. please be patient, and we'll have a new one posted by noon. please remember, this is an underground event, so be stealthy and follow parking instructions when you get to the site. also, bring what you'll need for comfort and warmth. it'll probably be rather cold if you're not dancing.... see ya there, greg From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 16:23:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15368 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 16:22:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 15322 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 16:22:55 -0000 Received: from jmail.co.jp (HELO calvin.iac.co.jp) (209.85.120.230) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 16:22:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 24061 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 16:23:11 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO jmail.co.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 May 1999 16:23:11 -0000 From: "ProtoTypical Chris" Reply-to: prototype@raveaddict.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:23:11 GST -1080 Subject: Re: F8: what trance track are currently blowing up your face! Message-id: <374ec2ef.5de0.0@jmail.co.jp> X-User-Info: 171.133.216.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > >On Thu, 27 May 1999, Toddster wrote: > >-&e-> The song's by spacefrog, it's called Dream a Dream, white >-&e->(label). It's acually a remix of the classical song "temple of the >-&e->mountain king". You can get it through satellite records if you >-&e->don't mind hassling with those arseholes. > >Actually, the classical piece is called "Hall of the Mountain King" by >Grieg. I've heard Mars and Thomas Trouble drop this mix I think. I have a hardcore version of that song by Human Resource. It's some sick shit, but I don't buy hardcore anymore, so I really don't have anything to mix with it, unless I slow it way down and play some _fast_ hard trance. -=ProtoTypical Chris=- >><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><><><><><><><><><><> Like my COOL email address? Get one like it FREE at http://www.MUSICOSM.com ! Visit today! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 16:26:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20338 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 16:26:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 20205 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 16:26:21 -0000 Received: from firstclass.monterey.edu (HELO mail.monterey.edu) (198.189.5.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 16:26:21 -0000 Message-id: Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:24:19 -0700 Subject: London scene? To: talk@warmth.org Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu (Robert Delarosa) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am going to London from the 8th to the 15th. Does anyone know of any events, maybe a cool ug spot, must see record shops and clubs? If you have any info, I would be grateful if you passed it along. Thanks in advance, aQ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 16:38:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26569 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 16:38:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 26523 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 16:38:19 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 16:38:19 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (7986) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNSJa03188; Fri, 28 May 1999 12:37:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 12:37:01 EDT Subject: Re: Riddle time To: WhrDaMud@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/28/99 6:47:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, WhrDaMud@AOL.COM writes: << What walks on all 4's in the morning, walks on 2 legs in the afternoon, and walks on 3 in the evening? >> 1. a baby 2.a young person 3. an old geezer with a cane From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 16:39:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27994 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 16:39:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 27862 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 16:39:10 -0000 Received: from www.bass-station.com (HELO bass-station.com) (206.111.131.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 16:39:10 -0000 Received: from inteva26 (206.111.131.80) by bass-station.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.1); Fri, 28 May 1999 09:33:29 -0700 Message-ID: <009d01bea928$b261ea60$6a81a8c0@inteva26.topica.com> From: "greg" To: "sfraves" Subject: the RENEGADE Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:39:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk on the advice of a concerned raver, i'm considering NOT posting the new VM to this list, but instead farming it out to a ffew folks for distribution. if you think this will miss you, give me a shout. don't reply to the list, please. greg From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 16:50:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5979 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 16:50:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 5952 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 16:50:16 -0000 Received: from web1002.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.92) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 16:50:16 -0000 Message-ID: <19990528165016.8919.rocketmail@web1002.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [169.199.36.134] by web1002.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:50:16 PDT Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:50:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Meow Mix Subject: good hard trance realaudio stations?? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk so i'm sittin here bored off my ass at school... could anybody reccomend a good free realaudio site for hard trance/cybertrance? i keep getting broken links & / or mediocre stuff... thanks KiTTy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 16:56:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8605 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 16:56:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 8597 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 16:56:37 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 16:56:37 -0000 Received: from Anachra@aol.com (8009) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vZQPa01450 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 12:55:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Anachra@aol.com Message-ID: <47519185.24802481@aol.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 12:55:29 EDT Subject: Re: A new Riddle for you all..... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk the mother is the surgeon... this one operates on the automatic human assumption that the medical care giver is male spacey From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 17:08:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14582 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 17:08:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 14553 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 17:08:06 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 17:08:06 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA03523 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id RAA17637 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 17:04:59 GMT From: "MooK<><" To: "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" Subject: RE: good hard trance realaudio stations?? Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:14:58 -0700 Message-ID: <00bc01bea92c$a2a28e50$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19990528165016.8919.rocketmail@web1002.mail.yahoo.com> Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk http://www.x-network.co.uk/EnergyUK/news.html Go here and click on the tape. It's updated every new edition and I haven't checked out this one but usually they're pretty good. Also go to http://www.tinrib.com and follow the links to the dancevalley web page, they have Captain tinrib's entire live set up there. Two words- BAD ASS!! =) M<>< > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of Meow Mix > Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 9:50 AM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: good hard trance realaudio stations?? > > > so i'm sittin here bored off my ass at school... > > could anybody reccomend a good free realaudio site for hard > trance/cybertrance? i keep getting broken links & / or mediocre > stuff... > > thanks > KiTTy > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 17:08:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15997 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 17:08:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 15891 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 17:08:41 -0000 Received: from sco.sco.com (132.147.128.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 17:08:41 -0000 Received: from novasco.sco.COM(132.147.178.252) via SMTP by sco.sco.COM, id smtpdBAAa004TV; Fri May 28 10:04:18 1999 Received: from lesleymo.sco.com by novasco.sco.com id aa06747; 28 May 99 9:55 PDT Message-ID: <374ECA65.790A9E80@sco.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:55:02 -0700 From: Lesley Mortell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oct1faith@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Fwd: trance sux, house rox, what References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > Djs change just like people do, scene do whatever. > Sasha was by himself for awhile there untll Paul came aboard. or am I > wrong. > did I forget about BT, way out west,Digweed. what were they doing? > before Trance. Sasha didn't really start playing trance until the mid 90's - in the days of Shelleys he was primarily playing hands in the air Italian piano house and American house (he even played as part of the first Strictly tour of the UK). I think it was around the "Arkham Asylum" time that he became tranceified. My favourite track of all times is Sashas remix of Alright by Urban Soul from 1990 that is most definately house and is being played at my funeral. Lesley From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 17:22:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23215 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 17:22:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 23145 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 17:22:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 17:22:27 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 256 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:19:52 -0700 Message-ID: <374ED11A.AFB544A2@hrg.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:23:38 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFraves peeps Subject: bsp: Full Moon Sunday night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk what up peeps, memorial day weekend is here and its time to usher in summer... Sunday night we will be partying Full Moon style the lineup Onionz Rob Doten Taj John Rodriguez David Coleman w/ Sen-Sei TJ Eric Erickson this is a free outdoor event things to bring- warm, comfortable clothes, sleeping bags/tents, WATER, GARBAGE BAGS (we will have these as well, just ask), stuff to munch on, POSITIVE ATTITUDE :) ...any other outdoor stuff you may need. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE clean up after yourselves. Last time the beach was a mess and it took us hours to clean up. TAKE YOUR TRASH WITH YOU, we will have garbage bags, just ask. For obvious reasons I cant tell you were the party is going to be. You will need to call the vmail the day of the party. I can tell you that its an hours drive from SF. for info... (415) 339-8015 http://www.SFHouse.com Ill be playing at 5am, rockin in the sunrise, come up and say hi! :) see you all soon John Rodriguez From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 17:33:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29467 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 17:33:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 29447 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 17:32:59 -0000 Received: from web201.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.101) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 17:32:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19990528173550.14307.rocketmail@web201.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.157.114.51] by web201.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:35:50 PDT Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:35:50 -0700 (PDT) From: tHe AcCoMplICe Subject: BSP: Chris Jackson @ Metropolis! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone! Just wanted to let everybody know that I am going to be playing from 12:00-1:30 in Sector 2. If you have never seen me DJ, please come and check it out. And for those who have, I'll see you there! Jon Williams is going to follow me, and then DRC. It is going to be a fat fuckin' room peeps!! Please come up and say hello during or after my set! Hope to see a few of you! I'm gonna seriously go off!!! Be prepared..... Make no mistake, tHis Is tEchNO.... chris jackson PS...Don't be scared, techno is your friend!!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 17:39:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3309 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 17:39:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 3298 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 17:39:45 -0000 Received: from seidc.sei.com (198.202.174.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 17:39:45 -0000 Received: from water.sei.com (water.sei.com [198.202.174.76]) by seidc.sei.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA09694; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:38:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Martin Randall Received: (from kk@localhost) by water.sei.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA12140; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:38:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905281738.KAA12140@water.sei.com> Subject: Re: London scene? To: Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu (Robert Delarosa) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: from "Robert Delarosa" at May 28, 99 09:24:19 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi Robert, This question came up last year, so you may want to scan the archives, but in any case, the place to go for record shops is in the area around Tottenham Court Road/Oxford Street. Take the tube to Tottenham Court Road and head up Oxford Street, and dive into the back streets on the left. There are loads of good record shops in that area. A good one to look for is Chocci's Chewns, a hole-in-the-wall on St.Anne's Place. Chocci is a London DJ so probably a good place to start your search for parties - they had flyers there when I was there. Get an A-Z street map (book, actually) of London to help find your way around. Time Out magazine lists events going on in and around London each week, including rave-type events (but not ug's, obviously). Interesting though that it is another sign that raves (at least certain kinds of raves) have become quite accepted and almost mainstream there. There *is* still an ug scene, but you have to look harder to find it... Good luck and have a great time! - Martin =] > > I am going to London from the 8th to the 15th. Does anyone know of any > events, maybe a cool ug spot, must see record shops and clubs? If you > have any info, I would be grateful if you passed it along. > > > Thanks in advance, > > aQ > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 17:43:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5748 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 17:43:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 5723 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 17:43:23 -0000 Received: from web213.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.113) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 17:43:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19990528174424.14943.rocketmail@web213.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.157.114.51] by web213.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:44:24 PDT Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:44:24 -0700 (PDT) From: tHe AcCoMplICe Subject: Oh Yeah, FREE RECORDS @ METROPOLIS! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I totally forgot to mention to all you tech inspired DJ's, I will be giving away copies of my new 12", Chris Jackson • Subtle Frequencies, AFTER my set. It is only going to be to the first 10 or 15 peeps who come up and ask, so be aware! If you have no interest in techno, or DJing, please don't take a rec. Save them for the true junkies!!! Peace & Free Stuff... chris jackson "Techno is the primary building block upon which our dance scene was created"...Respect it!!! -Unknown techno freak- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 17:44:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6422 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 17:44:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 6413 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 17:44:02 -0000 Received: from web222.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.122) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 17:44:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19990528174440.5749.rocketmail@web222.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.157.114.51] by web222.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:44:40 PDT Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:44:40 -0700 (PDT) From: tHe AcCoMplICe Subject: Oh Yeah, FREE RECORDS @ METROPOLIS! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I totally forgot to mention to all you tech inspired DJ's, I will be giving away copies of my new 12", Chris Jackson • Subtle Frequencies, AFTER my set. It is only going to be to the first 10 or 15 peeps who come up and ask, so be aware! If you have no interest in techno, or DJing, please don't take a rec. Save them for the true junkies!!! Peace & Free Stuff... chris jackson "Techno is the primary building block upon which our dance scene was created"...Respect it!!! -Unknown techno freak- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 17:50:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10015 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 17:50:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 10006 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 17:50:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 17:50:15 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 316 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:47:48 -0700 Message-ID: <374ED7A4.EAD7D6FC@hrg.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:51:33 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFraves peeps Subject: Farley and Heller at Release... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey, anyone who loves deep house...Farley and Heller will be spinning at Release on Saturday... These guys have been around forever, and have put out some of the dopest tracks around...Ive never seen em play before, so this should be a treat. Make it out if you can! John Rodriguez From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 17:56:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15042 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 17:56:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 15024 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 17:56:53 -0000 Received: from sco.sco.com (132.147.128.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 17:56:53 -0000 Received: from novasco.sco.COM(132.147.178.252) via SMTP by sco.sco.COM, id smtpdAAAa006nE; Fri May 28 10:55:30 1999 Received: from lesleymo.sco.com by novasco.sco.com id aa12099; 28 May 99 10:54 PDT Message-ID: <374ED827.44552BB5@sco.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:53:43 -0700 From: Lesley Mortell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Niels P. Mayer" CC: bradley.kagan@starfish.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Beg to Differ References: <199905280613.XAA05840@mail.netwiz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Niels said :- > Produced by formerly starving > and disrespected producers like Mark Bell but distributed on a major > label with major marketing and airplay. As half of LFO Mark was never disrespected or starving and got high up the UK charts in the early 90's, WARP was and is proud to be independant, one of only 2 truly independant labels in the UK. Lesley From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 18:06:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20212 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 18:06:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 20204 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 18:06:23 -0000 Received: from sco.sco.com (132.147.128.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 18:06:23 -0000 Received: from novasco.sco.COM(132.147.178.252) via SMTP by sco.sco.COM, id smtpdBAAa007Db; Fri May 28 11:05:37 1999 Received: from lesleymo.sco.com by novasco.sco.com id aa13059; 28 May 99 11:05 PDT Message-ID: <374EDAC3.2E87B857@sco.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:04:51 -0700 From: Lesley Mortell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Delarosa CC: talk@warmth.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: London scene? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk There is a big difference with whats called ug over here and what is called ug in London - the numerous "squat parties" that go on would be called underground at home but regularly draw 5,000 people whereas Carl Cox's "Ultimate Bass" on a Thursday night at The Velvet Underground only holds about 300 but is not underground. Anyways (a little plug for mates off UKDance list) there is a Kult night on the 12th http://www.kult.demon.co.uk/ - which is pretty ug and only a fiver and a wicked mix of pHunky R's house and techno or what one of them likes to call "hairy-eyed techno" - Kult parties are always good and that night they've got Nathen Coles on. (Who does Wiggle with Terry Francis). Record shops - Catch a Groove for house, Ambient Soho for all sorts and Tag for tech-house - all in soho. Have fun Lesley Robert Delarosa wrote: > > I am going to London from the 8th to the 15th. Does anyone know of any > events, maybe a cool ug spot, must see record shops and clubs? If you > have any info, I would be grateful if you passed it along. > > Thanks in advance, > > aQ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 18:11:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23182 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 18:11:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 23173 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 18:11:40 -0000 Received: from web114.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.86) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 18:11:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19990528181610.198.rocketmail@web114.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web114.yahoomail.com; Fri, 28 May 1999 11:16:10 PDT Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:16:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: F*** the riddles To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Raves are not +18, yet. ;) Please don't use profanity in subject lines. There are virgin eyes about. What? There could be; you never know. =Þ *HUGZ* pat From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 18:22:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1406 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 18:22:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 1396 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 18:22:50 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 18:22:50 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (14457) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vZMJa02587; Fri, 28 May 1999 14:22:16 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 14:22:07 EDT Subject: Re: Riddle time To: Kitana3737@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok fine i know that was easy but i was hopin that ya'll never heard that one From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 18:24:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3763 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 18:24:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 3754 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 18:24:47 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 18:24:47 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (14457) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id bCNCa08831; Fri, 28 May 1999 14:23:39 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <98b3be94.2480392b@aol.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 14:23:39 EDT Subject: Re: A new Riddle for you all..... To: Daryll.D.Jacobson@is.shell.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk the doctor is his Mom From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 18:28:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7151 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 18:28:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 7137 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 18:28:29 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 18:28:28 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (14457) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id pACDa08831; Fri, 28 May 1999 14:26:52 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <67e18221.248039ec@aol.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 14:26:52 EDT Subject: Re: Fuck the riddles To: prototype@raveaddict.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, BigM009@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hum kinda funny seeing how i only have posted like 3 riddles and they all had Nrr in the subject cept one prototype@raveaddict.com writes: << I understand that, but people have filters for a reason. I had to manually delete like 15-20 messages on those damn riddles. >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 18:32:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9549 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 18:32:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 9400 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 18:32:55 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 18:32:55 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (14457) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vYGLa02587 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 14:32:11 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <4aa78039.24803b2b@aol.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 14:32:11 EDT Subject: Friday riddle time {nrr} To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Born Motherless and Fatherless, Into this world without a sin Made a load roar as I entered And never spoke again. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 18:37:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12824 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 18:37:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 12779 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 18:37:01 -0000 Received: from f47.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.58) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 18:37:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 38010 invoked by uid 0); 28 May 1999 18:36:27 -0000 Message-ID: <19990528183627.38009.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.227.43.13 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 28 May 1999 11:36:26 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.227.43.13] From: "Fruit Cup" To: MoniqueW@vertical.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Nikita tomorrow night Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:36:26 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >From: Monique Whittaker > >Anyone know who's playing at Nikita tomorrow night? Main floor: Dave Trance?, Simon, Taj 415.267.0568 Squeeze Adnan, Nathan, Ray. In the Blue Room @ Nikita. 12 midnight-4am the blue room is the *best*! but i'll probably wait for paul van dyk on 6.18... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 18:46:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16926 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 18:46:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 16908 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 18:46:52 -0000 Received: from sco.sco.com (132.147.128.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 18:46:52 -0000 Received: from novasco.sco.COM(132.147.178.252) via SMTP by sco.sco.COM, id smtpdAAAa001h7; Fri May 28 11:46:01 1999 Received: from lesleymo.sco.com by novasco.sco.com id aa15493; 28 May 99 11:36 PDT Message-ID: <374EE222.F8F70941@sco.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:36:18 -0700 From: Lesley Mortell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: johnr@hrg.com CC: SFraves peeps Subject: Re: Farley and Heller at Release... References: <374ED7A4.EAD7D6FC@hrg.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I second, third and fourth this - I've seen them and they are great. Pete Hellers Big Love is riding high in the UK charts at the moment. I was thinking of taking a trip up to the city but I've not heard good things about Release so as a lone girlie I think I'll save my energies for the Full Moon Party. Ultraflava Lesley (who really must do some work now) John Rodriguez wrote: > > Hey, anyone who loves deep house...Farley and Heller will be spinning at > Release on Saturday... These guys have been around forever, and have put > out some of the dopest tracks around...Ive never seen em play before, so > this should be a treat. Make it out if you can! > > John Rodriguez From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 18:47:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17518 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 18:47:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 17441 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 18:47:05 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 18:47:05 -0000 Received: from KaNdeEKlD@aol.com (14438) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vBOHa15563 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 14:46:29 -0400 (EDT) From: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com Message-ID: <3f3a3789.24803e72@aol.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 14:46:10 EDT Subject: The Weekend has finally arrived!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm so excited for this weekend!!! Today's my b-day, tommorrow's Metropolis, Sun'n Man in the Moon!!!! This weekend is gonna be dope! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 18:52:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22389 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 18:52:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 22370 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 18:52:29 -0000 Received: from law2-f208.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.208) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 18:52:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 26080 invoked by uid 0); 28 May 1999 18:52:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19990528185203.26079.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.215.220.118 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 28 May 1999 11:52:02 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.215.220.118] From: "A Captivating Mix of Energies" To: WhrDaMud@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Friday riddle time {nrr} Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:52:02 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That extacy filled scream I let out when I saw Orbital live in Southampton durring spring break with less than 1000 other people. And the yippee I rang when their manager told me I would get to meet them... :) Peace and Love, Dave ----Original Message Follows---- Born Motherless and Fatherless, Into this world without a sin Made a load roar as I entered And never spoke again. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 18:55:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24552 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 18:54:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 24541 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 18:54:56 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 18:54:56 -0000 Received: from TonicBond@aol.com (3929) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id bVKZa02574; Fri, 28 May 1999 14:53:02 -0400 (EDT) From: TonicBond@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 14:53:02 EDT Subject: Re: A new Riddle for you all..... To: Daryll.D.Jacobson@is.shell.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk the surgeon is the mother AME From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 19:22:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19694 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 19:22:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 19602 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 19:22:36 -0000 Received: from jmail.co.jp (HELO calvin.iac.co.jp) (209.85.120.230) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 19:22:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 3751 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 19:22:51 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO jmail.co.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 May 1999 19:22:51 -0000 From: "ProtoTypical Chris" Reply-to: prototype@raveaddict.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, WhrDaMud@aol.com Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 12:22:51 GST -1080 Subject: Re: Fuck the riddles Message-id: <374eed0b.ea3.0@jmail.co.jp> X-User-Info: 171.133.216.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Hum kinda funny seeing how i only have posted like 3 riddles and they all had >Nrr in the subject cept one prototype@raveaddict.com writes: > ><< I understand that, but people have filters for a reason. I had to manually >delete > like 15-20 messages on those damn riddles. >> > But all the responses come up as well, and there were a lot of them. -=ProtoTypical Chris=- >><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><><><><><><><><><><> Like my COOL email address? Get one like it FREE at http://www.MUSICOSM.com ! Visit today! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 21:01:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5615 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 21:01:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 5606 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 21:01:10 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 21:01:10 -0000 Received: from user (AM4-11-55-162.ixpres.com [209.75.55.162]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA51080; Fri, 28 May 1999 14:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990528135238.0072b874@mail.ixpres.com> X-Sender: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 13:52:38 -0700 To: WhrDaMud@aol.com, Kitana3737@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: NRR: Greek Tragedies Anyone? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Please! C'mon now, weren't we all forced to read Oedipus in high school at least during the Greek Tragedies semester? Dahling, EVERYONE knows the riddle of the sphinx! :-))))) Hugs & Sm:)es madhvi --all in good humour, just like the man says ;-D At 02:22 PM 5/28/99 EDT, WhrDaMud@aol.com wrote: >ok fine i know that was easy but i was hopin that ya'll never heard that one > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 21:01:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6006 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 21:01:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 5617 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 21:01:12 -0000 Received: from mail.ixpres.com (207.137.28.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 21:01:12 -0000 Received: from user (AM4-11-55-162.ixpres.com [209.75.55.162]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA51064; Fri, 28 May 1999 14:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990528135131.0072bd88@mail.ixpres.com> X-Sender: mdalal@mail.ixpres.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 13:51:31 -0700 To: Lesley Mortell , johnr@hrg.com From: Madhvi Dalal Subject: RELEASE Cc: SFraves peeps In-Reply-To: <374EE222.F8F70941@sco.com> References: <374ED7A4.EAD7D6FC@hrg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yeah, i'm sorry to say that from all the times i've been to Release, IT BLOWS BIG-TIME! Despite the dj's that may be there it is nothing more than a glorified meat market, outfitted in the latest trendy styles. Get ready for Boobfest 99 and lotsa slick pick-up lines. If I ever see anyone there who doesn't look like they should be in TJ i'm amazed; and i get the horrid feeling that most patrons of Release don't even really care about the music, as long as it's some dancey beat and they've got their drink in hand and someone's ass in the other. I'm sorry, but it just ruins my nite when i have guys trying to grab my ass and girls who actively look each other up & down as they size up the female competition. Not where i want to be....so as a fellow femme; lesley, don't go alone b/c you WILL have drunken men leering at you all nite. hugs madhvi At 11:36 AM 5/28/99 -0700, Lesley Mortell wrote: >I second, third and fourth this - I've seen them and they are great. >Pete Hellers Big Love is riding high in the UK charts at the moment. I >was thinking of taking a trip up to the city but I've not heard good >things about Release so as a lone girlie I think I'll save my energies >for the Full Moon Party. > >Ultraflava >Lesley (who really must do some work now) > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 21:04:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9083 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 21:04:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 9031 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 21:04:48 -0000 Received: from mole.slip.net (207.171.193.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 21:04:48 -0000 Received: from [207.171.214.12] (helo=exchange1.vertical.com) by mole.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 10nTnn-000714-00; Fri, 28 May 1999 14:04:27 -0700 Received: by Exchange1.vertical.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 28 May 1999 14:00:29 -0700 Message-ID: From: Monique Whittaker To: 'Madhvi Dalal' , Lesley Mortell , johnr@hrg.com Cc: SFraves peeps Subject: RE: RELEASE Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 14:00:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk My advice...show up after 2. After they stop serving alcohol and the dance floor opens up a little.... -----Original Message----- From: Madhvi Dalal [mailto:mdalal@ixpres.com] Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 1:52 PM To: Lesley Mortell; johnr@hrg.com Cc: SFraves peeps Subject: RELEASE yeah, i'm sorry to say that from all the times i've been to Release, IT BLOWS BIG-TIME! Despite the dj's that may be there it is nothing more than a glorified meat market, outfitted in the latest trendy styles. Get ready for Boobfest 99 and lotsa slick pick-up lines. If I ever see anyone there who doesn't look like they should be in TJ i'm amazed; and i get the horrid feeling that most patrons of Release don't even really care about the music, as long as it's some dancey beat and they've got their drink in hand and someone's ass in the other. I'm sorry, but it just ruins my nite when i have guys trying to grab my ass and girls who actively look each other up & down as they size up the female competition. Not where i want to be....so as a fellow femme; lesley, don't go alone b/c you WILL have drunken men leering at you all nite. hugs madhvi At 11:36 AM 5/28/99 -0700, Lesley Mortell wrote: >I second, third and fourth this - I've seen them and they are great. >Pete Hellers Big Love is riding high in the UK charts at the moment. I >was thinking of taking a trip up to the city but I've not heard good >things about Release so as a lone girlie I think I'll save my energies >for the Full Moon Party. > >Ultraflava >Lesley (who really must do some work now) > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 21:08:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11579 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 21:08:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 11569 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 21:08:36 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 21:08:36 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (4461) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id uFDCa06834; Fri, 28 May 1999 17:07:49 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <4b33ab2d.24805fa5@aol.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 17:07:49 EDT Subject: Re: RELEASE To: MoniqueW@vertical.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk But get there before 3 because they close the doors. hahaha. I think during the summer they have extended hours until 4. But if its full they wont let anyone in. Ill be there saturday. See you all there. Peace, M PS I dont drink and I dont grope the women unless they ask. Usually. :) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 21:30:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25721 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 21:30:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 25711 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 21:30:03 -0000 Received: from netcom8.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.117) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 21:30:03 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom8.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id OAA10218; Fri, 28 May 1999 14:29:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 14:29:56 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Re: RELEASE To: E-Bumpers By the Bay In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990528135131.0072bd88@mail.ixpres.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 28 May 1999, Madhvi Dalal wrote: > Get ready for Boobfest 99... > as long as it's some dancey beat and they've got their drink in hand > and someone's ass in the other... DEEEYYYAAMMMM!! this sounds like my kind of party! :D :D :D -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Productions 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 21:56:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11919 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 21:56:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 11911 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 21:56:14 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.13) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 21:56:14 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA20348; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:55:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca21-16.ix.netcom.com(209.110.229.16) by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma020323; Fri May 28 16:54:51 1999 Message-Id: <4.1.19990528145325.00c9a3f0@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: ascend@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 14:59:09 -0700 To: Jason Ozbourne From: Greg Sandler Subject: Re: Sol party, I'll be at the door.... Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <19990527180513.17105.rocketmail@web204.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 11:05 AM 5/27/99 -0700, you wrote: >The two things I find funny about what you are saying. > >1) When I first moved here and signed onto this list, >I thought that you were an intelligent, older, kinda >"rave Momma" style person. Now it seems that all you >do is promote for Harmony. Leslie is a great friend of mine. In fact when she had a lot of extra time she was a major part of the Harmony Crew. But now she has less time, but still makes it out to help out every once and a while... But because she likes the Harmony parties, she is not "an intelligent, older, kinda >"rave Momma" style person" anymore?!?!? What are you trying to say here? >2) Since I moved up here, the one party that I have >gone to twice that has had the most young high kids is >Harmony. Appearently you don't go out to the bigger raves much anymore. Lately for the larger underground parties Harmony has had the older crowd... (believe it or not ; ) Peace and love, Greg = ) > >I just find both of these things very ironic when >associated with the post you made below. > >l8, >J. > >--- leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: >> ok... in the 18-up discussions, i volunteered to be >> the "door id-checker" >> for the first promoter who would volunteer to do >> this... >> >> and has greg said in his post yesterday about sol on >> june 26th, harmony will >> be the first crew to voluntarily do an 18-up >> event.... and, hmmm, no >> surprise since i love working the harmony line >> whenever i can anyway... i >> will be there at the door... >> >> so, i'm looking forward to it, and while i know that >> there are going to be >> some who are very disappointed... but bear with us >> here, support the effort >> to help keep the scene alive and well for you >> all.... >> >> love, >> leslie >> >> >> >> >> Get your free, private email at >> http://mail.excite.com/ >> > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 22:07:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17903 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 22:07:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 17894 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 22:07:16 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 22:07:16 -0000 Received: from IndEglo69@aol.com (7982) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vTCQa02743 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 18:06:27 -0400 (EDT) From: IndEglo69@aol.com Message-ID: <995da984.24806d64@aol.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 18:06:28 EDT Subject: Re: Love making test {nrr} To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk that was hella funny!!! send more shit out like that!!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 23:05:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14553 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 23:05:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 14534 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 23:05:38 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 23:05:38 -0000 Received: from BlueWAK@aol.com (8007) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id bGNEa02681; Fri, 28 May 1999 19:04:42 -0400 (EDT) From: BlueWAK@aol.com Message-ID: <3a479eaa.24807b09@aol.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 19:04:41 EDT Subject: Re: A new Riddle for you all..... To: Daryll.D.Jacobson@is.shell.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 52 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The doctor was the mother..... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri May 28 23:24:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25823 invoked by uid 6000); 28 May 1999 23:24:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 25814 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 23:24:51 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 May 1999 23:24:51 -0000 Received: from Abbo1234@aol.com (4453) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id bFCFa02054; Fri, 28 May 1999 19:23:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Abbo1234@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 19:23:47 EDT Subject: Re: A new Riddle for you all..... To: Daryll.D.Jacobson@is.shell.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The surgeon was his mother. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 00:13:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17716 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 00:13:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 17643 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 00:13:03 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 00:13:03 -0000 Received: from Candida29@aol.com (3706) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iPNMa08612; Fri, 28 May 1999 20:07:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Candida29@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 20:07:17 EDT Subject: NRR(from candy) To: gambit_92@hotmail.com, aaron_brewer@excite.com, m1k3e2@pacbell.net, MariGalvez@aol.com, Markis1012@aol.com, Milliemck@aol.com, donnamarie48@hotmail.com, madonnar@mindspring.com, Hcjschu@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, Naomi0211@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk the meaning of friendship........... > >=A0 >Anyone can stand by you when you are right, > > > >but a Friend will stand by you even when you are > > > wrong... > > > >A simple friend identifies himself when he calls. > > > >A real friend doesn't have to. > > > >A simple friend opens a conversation with a full > > > news bulletin on his > > > >life. > > > >A real friend says, "What's new with you?" > > > >A simple friend thinks the problems you whine about > > > are recent. > > > >A real friend says, "You've been whining about the > > > same thing for > > > >years. > > > >Get off your ass and do something about it." > > > >A simple friend has never seen you cry. > > > >A real friend has shoulders soggy from your tears. > > > >A simple friend doesn't know your parents' first > > > names. > > > >A real friend has their phone numbers in his > > > address book. > > > > > > > >A simple friend brings a bottle of wine to your > > > party. > > > >A real friend comes early to help you cook and > > > stays late to help you > > > >clean. > > > >A simple friend hates it when you call after he has > > > gone to bed. > > > >A real friend asks you why you took so long to > > > call. > > > >A simple friend seeks to talk with you about your > > > problems. > > > >A real friend seeks to help you with your problems. > > > >A simple friend wonders about your romantic > > > history. > > > >A real friend could blackmail you with it. > > > > > > > >A simple friend, when visiting, acts like a guest. > > > >A real friend opens your refrigerator and helps > > > himself. > > > >A simple friend thinks the friendship is over when > > > you have an > > > >argument. > > > >A real friend knows that it's not a friendship > > > until after you've had > > > >a fight. > > > >A simple friend expects you to always be there for > > > them. > > > >A real friend expects to always be there for you! > > > >Pass this on to anyone you care about....if you get > > > it back you > > > >have found your true friends! > > > >Have a wonderful day! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 00:20:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21745 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 00:20:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 21734 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 00:20:00 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 00:20:00 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com (14442) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vKYSa02575 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 20:19:07 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <36419719.24808c7b@aol.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 20:19:07 EDT Subject: some help please... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok, so i know some of you know that there is a group of us trying to put together a drug awareness pamhlet and stuff.... and we think it would be effectiv eto share actual stories from either your personal experience or a close friend's experience that you wittnessed with an OD, weather the peron died or not.... so what i'm asking is if any of you have stories that you'd like to share, please email them to me privately..... also if you have lost a friend because of their drug use, and would like to add their name to our memorial page, send tht info too, but you might want to check with that person's family to make sure that they don't mind, cuz we wouldn't want to disrespect their wishes... but be sure to explain that the purpose of including their name/story is to help open other peoples eyes and get them to party more responsibly, and be more knowledgeable about the drugs they are doing.... so if anyone has some input please send it to me privately love and hugs and kisses, tina From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 01:24:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19213 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 01:24:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 19082 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 01:24:21 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 01:24:21 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA23385 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 20:23:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca21-37.ix.netcom.com(209.110.229.37) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma023220; Fri May 28 20:23:07 1999 Message-Id: <4.1.19990528151744.00ca8430@popd.ix.netcom.com> Message-Id: <4.1.19990528151744.00ca8430@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: ascend@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:19:24 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Greg Sandler Subject: DJ Greg Sandler @ Origin This Saturday! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone, I will be playing at Origin this weekend. Definatly try to check it out! Lots of great music to choose from (hella good djs!). (Gonna rock it!) Peace and love, Greg = ) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 01:52:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 691 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 01:52:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 683 invoked by uid 233); 29 May 1999 01:52:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 984 invoked by uid 228); 29 May 1999 00:47:58 -0000 Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 17:47:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Karina Powers To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sfraves-calendar@hyperreal.org cc: Karina Powers Subject: This Week's SFR Calendar for 5.28.99 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Have a wonderful Memorial Day Weekend! New Catch Phrases at Work Thank you. We're all refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view. I don't know what your problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce. Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental. I have plenty of talent and vision. I just don't give a damn. What am I? Flypaper for freaks!? I'm not being rude. You're just insignificant. I'm already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth. I will always cherish the initial misconceptions I had about you. Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial. How about never? Is never good for you? I'm really easy to get along with once you people learn to worship me. You sound reasonable... Time to up my medication. I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter. I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message... Who me? I just wander from room to room. It might look like I'm doing nothing, but at the cellular level I'm really quite busy. At least I have a positive attitude about my destructive habits. You are validating my inherent mistrust of strangers. I see you've set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in public. ==================================================== What lies behind us karina@hyperreal.org and What lies before us are tiny matters When compared to What lies Within Us. -Oliver Wendell Holmes ==================================================== The SFR Calendar http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/sf/calendar/gencal.cgi _________________________________________________________________ Friday, May 28th - Ill Communication presents Revolution Dutch (Space Children), Colin, Atom, Gabe (Ill Communication), Kea, J.C.. Location is on a fully-secured, PRIVATE beach just north of Santa Cruz. We will provide water. Free. 831.427.8175 Friday, May 28th - Star*burst Productions presents Star*burst Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records), Greg Sandler (Harmony/Harmonics), Joe Lanzon (Bagok Tribe), Jeyson (Davis Funky Family), Dragn'fly (Epiphany), Hoth (Positive Theory). 100% fully permitted new Sacramento location. Proceeds to benefit the Sacramento Food Bank. Presale Tickets can be purchased @ In Tha Mix and Imagine Music in Sac. and Primal in Berzerkeley... $5 w/ a canned food item, $7 w/o. 916.815.4337 Friday, May 28th - May 31st - Lightseed Collective presents Butterfly A Lightseed Campout in praise of Julia Butterfly Hill in honor of Luna More info to be announced... http://www.sfrecords.com/lightseed/ Friday, May 28th - Squeeze Adnan, Nathan, Ray. In the Blue Room @ Nikita. 12 midnight-4am, 21+. 1015 Folsom, 1015 Folsom, SF. 415.789.7208 Saturday, May 29th - ELECTRO-CHIC (Drum& Bass DJ DANCE) Electro-Chic. $7. CAFE DU NORD, 2170 Market Street,, SF. Saturday, May 29th - Chadwick, Xavier and Brian Kadmiri presents Housepital Resident DJ's, Pete Avila, Christopher Alan, Steve Husted. Drum therapy by Ahmed & the lovely Tito Puente drummers. Gender Illusionist SHOW by asia sf's beauties. Asia SF, 201 9th St. at Howard, SF. Saturday, May 29th - Release and Mixer Magazine presents The Farley & Heller T.G.I.M. Big Love Tour Farley & Heller, Behrouz, Taj, Julius Papp, BB Hayes, Tom Thump, Bruce, Jerry Ross, Rafael. 10pm-6am, 21+, $15. 1015 Folsom @ 6th, SF. 415.281.0823 Saturday, May 29th - Necropolis Electronica, Darkwave, Industrial Alaric, Raglan, OV23. Special Butoh dance performance by Collapsing Silence. Industrial lighting, blacklight chamber, subverted clubscape, bizarre videos, more... 10pm-3am, 21+. $8 before 10 pm and $11 after.. Transmission Theatre, 314 11th Street at Folsom, SF. Saturday, May 29th - Native Vison Productions presents M.A.D. LOVE PARTY A Going away party for Marcellus The Man With No Shoes Marcellus, Markiss Anthony, DJ Doubt, Siphon, And One Other TBA the Day of the free free fre party for all. Same Place Same Time For Info. noon-sunset, . 415.281.0777 Saturday, May 29th - CURTIS BAY and his Organic Trip-Hop/Hip-Hop/Acid Jazz/Drum-n-Bass Curtis Bay. Contact the TongueBath Tub for more info. at kimgerly@holonet.net 8pm-. Brain Wash Cafe, 1122 Folsom St., SF. 415.255.4866 Saturday, May 29th - Nomad Interactive presents Origin A full 8 hour journey into the depths of Techno, Trance and house music world acclaimed producer, direct from Detriot, KIKOMAN (Deep fried, Plus 8, 303, Missile UK Records), Markie Mark (Wicked) , DJ Josh (Gathering), Mars (Frequency 8), Mystre (Frequency 8), Gouracandra (Urban Development, Soundworks), Greg Sandler (Harmony), Dyloot (Skills, Happy Kids), Thomas Trouble (Tickle, Man in the Moon), Rick V (In the Mix, Bliss), Happy Kid Marty (Happy Kids), Mark Amoeba (Mixology), And Special Surprise Guest TBA. Discounted pre-sale tickets available exclusively at: Frequency 8 (SF), T&J Factory (Berk), In The Mix (Sac), Solid Grooves (SJ), Harmonics (SR), Mixology (SR). 415.675.5605 510.433.9933 408.278.5553 916.554.0554 Saturday, May 29th - Clockwork Eventz presents METROPOLIS 7 Underground dance districts of diversity METRODOME:, Donald Glaude, Terry Mullan, DJ Rktech, Hipp-E, Jeno, Tony, The ELECTRIC KINGDOM:, Charlotte The Baroness, DJ Liquid, DJ Ghost, Miss Knight, J-Boogie, Deep in the GARNET KONKRETE JUNGLE:, R.A.W. w/ MC?, Rinse & Flux w/MC Jamalski, U.F.O., Aaron V., DJ Dose, The Infamous Highlanders, FUNKYTOWN: Funky Beat's 4 yr anniversary:, Simon, DJ Doubt, DJ Matthew, Paucus, David vs.Joey Mazzola on 4, Jasen C., SECTOR 2:, Jon Williams, DRC, Chris Jackson, St. John, J-Bot, Charly Fusion, DJ Xolotyl, The Comfort, Room:, Deepfog, Boomerang, Triad, Reggae Lounge: come hang and feel da Irie vibes inside our reggae lounge. Prepare for the awakening!!! A night of bad ass talent, mixing through the most intense beats to date!!! A night of explosive performances, that will push the boundaries of the underground mentality!!! A night that will be out of control, filled with the amazement of an interactive multimedia extravaganza. LUMATECH lighting will be throwing down the fattest lighting show that nobody has ever seen before!! The Royal Rumble: mark wayne,jk sound,xtreme audio We will also be celebrating Funky Beats 4 year anniversary!!! HIEROGLYPHICS,THE PHARCYDE. Live p.a. Sound Of Light. 408.747.7742 415.721.4713 510.733.1140 916.565.6560 Sunday, May 30th - *** Naughty Girl Productions *** presents GIRL 66 a dance party for women featuring female DJs Junkyard, Otter, Black. 9pm- $5. CAFE DU NORD, 2170 Market Street,, SF. Sunday, May 30th - Spundae Frankie Bones (NY), Terry Mullan (CHI), Donald Glaude (SEA), Kimball Collins (FL), Christopher Lawrence (LA), Jerry Bonham (Spundae/Nikita), David Harness (your mamas house), Pete Avila (your mamas house), Michael Anthony (atomic lounge), Mark Tabberner (england), Ellen Ferrato (sugar), Galen (sunset), Gianni (harmonics), John Acquaviva (5 hour set/ canada), Taj (nikita), simon (nikita). 21+. 1015 Folsom, SF. http:www.spundae.com 415.974.9389 Sunday, May 30th - Applesauce 4 rooms of necessary sounds drum&Bass, R.A.W. (thermal rec., mictlan l.a.), UFO and Sage (phunkateck), Honey B. and Sifu (thermal records), Hak and Siphon (Urban Assault), Siren (bassment, xlr8r), Symplex, Trance, Scott dc (nikita), Keith Edwards (solid grooves), Skyscraper, Oddeci = others, House, Jonene, Preston, Tasho, Rasoul, Harry Who?, Chris Perrins, Funky Beats, Mei-Lwun (Solstice OM records), Darkhorse (three sixty), Alvaro, M3 (green gorilla), Chris Haycock, Stuart. veggie BBQ 2am, 21+, $10. free before 4pm. Club Ecco, 87 n. San Pedro, San Jose. http://www.clubecco.com 408.793.0328 Sunday, May 30th - SF Carnaval! On the streets of the Mission District. Live Keyboards, Sax, Bass, Vocal action from DJ Collage (DubTribe, Masse 1), Sery special secret guests & suprises... . Drum&Bass, Breakbeats, Dub & Jungle come to the SF Carnaval - A Waking Dream will have a float With a full U.K. style SoundSystem with many djs. Premier of the new D&B/Breakbeat Dub remix of Bob Marleys classic `EXodus' in an epic 30 minute version The visual theme of that float is `Mondo Condo' protesting the live/work situation & the resulting exodus of artists from The Bay area. Drummers/Ravers can participate by showing up & dancing alongside The float or by coming to A Waking Dream's warehouse at 2815 18th st (@ Bryant)next Sat or Sun (22nd & 23rd)afternoon after 1pm to help make costumes (that you can wear!) etc . Sunday, May 30th - Release, Metrojazz, If...The Idea Factory and silverTab(r) presents The first of the Wet Pool Party In DJs We Trust Series Kevin Yost (i!Records), Peter Heller (Junior Boys Own, Subliminal), Julius Papp (Yellow), Franky Boissy, Miguel "Migs", Mauricio Aviles, Martel, Nabiel, Saga. Indoor/Outdoor, BBQ. Benefit for SF AIDS Foundation. 12pm-2am, 21+. $10 before 4, $15 after. Backflip, 601 Eddy St @ Larkin. Sunday, May 30th - Koolada (A Tropical Excursion into Deep Funkiness) Enjoy the house sounds on the outdoor patio under a full moon..., Jonene, Tasho, Preston (Stompy Hi-Fi), Rasoul (Leaf, Large, Guidance Recordings), Harry Who?, Chris Perrins, get down, get funky with..., Mei Lwun (Soulstice, OM Records), M3 (Fully Loaded Recordings, Green Gorilla Lounge), Darkhorse (Three Sixty Records), Alvaro, Chris Haycock. Vegetarian BBQ/buffet. Corner of San Pedro & St. John. 2pm-2am, 21+, $10. free from 2 - 4. Club ECCO, 87 N. San Pedro, San Jose. Sunday, May 30th - Memorial Day Full Moon Free Outdoor on the Beach Onionz (chocolate factory), Rob Doten (daddys), Taj (spundae), John Rodriguez, Eric Erickson, TJ, David Coleman w/ Sen-Sei on keys. a Balance production. http://www.SFHouse.com 415.339.8015 Sunday, May 30th - EUROTIKA 3 Biohazard productions-L.A..(GABE &THEE-O), F-8-S.F.(MYSTRE), ANTHONY S(THE TRIBE), D!ZZ!(Fresno). . Modesto Centre Plaza,, Modesto. 209.236.6846 415.221.4142 Sunday, May 30th - Memorial Weekend Trance & Jungle Factory presents Man on the Moon Memorial Thomas Trouble, DJ "D", Phat Pat, Vertigo, many more!. Don't forget you've got Monday off!! So get your dancin shoes on and join in the trance family festivities. This is going to be a small party with limited pre-sales. Please check back later for more information! Big Heart City, SF. 415.248.2669 Saturday, June 2nd - Potrero Brewing Company presents HOPE Jon, JOSH, bake, Oliver, DJ Perfect, jdw, silent j, bake , Oliver (Beat Farm). Rider No. 3079 California AIDS Ride 6: a 560 mile bicycle ride from San Francisco to Los Angeles to promote HIV/AIDS awareness and raise money for the San Francisco AIDS Foundation and the Los Angeles Gay and Lesbian Center. Please visit my webpage at http://www.bikeforlife.com for more info! ;p Center. Please visit my webpage at http://www.bikeforlife.com for more info! ;p FREE beer, pool tables,and food all nite! 6pm-2am, 21+, $25. Potrero Brewing Company, 535 Florida St., SF. http://www.bikeforlife.com Friday, June 4th - Atlantis takes y'all on a Grooveride Tracy, Jeno, fabuLIZZ, Caine, GirlFriday, EricSpire, SonicOdyssey, NYSTAGAMUS, Nathen, Kip, Subal, Max, guests. presale@Daddys and OpenMind and BPM.... 415-339-8123 Friday, June 4th - DSC14 Records 1999 Label Launch Tour Fierce, Trace, MC Rymetyme. This legendary session will consist of three of the Tech Step sound originators dropping some serious lessons on the unsuspecting masses... Local Phunkateck member Jason Mouse will be opening up the night hosted by Eklektic and Groundscore. @ the bassment 1015 Folsom., 1015 Folsom, SF. Friday, June 4th - Garnet and B.A.S.S. Kru presents Tommy Gun jungle w/, RINSE, NOEL, PUSH, HAK, JONTE, RUE, RUSSELL G. 18+, $8. 78 Minna, SF. 415.436.0735 415.332.5800 ext247 Friday, June 4th - Atlantis Takes You on a Groove Ride Jeno (Wicked, SF), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records & Quest, SF) , Tracy (Daddy's Records & Quest, SF), fabuLizz (SF), Girl Friday (SF), Sonic Oddyssey (SF), Caine (Silver Pearl & Quest, SF). Visuals by Nystagmus. 415.339.8123 Friday, June 4th - Rendezvous (ran da voo) A Beautiful San Francisco Trance Family Gathering! Lets Rendezvous all night with lots of love and music. See you there! 2 Rooms that will feature:, Thomas Trouble (Trance & Jungle Factory), DJ "D" (T&J Factory), Mars (Frequency 8), Mystre (F-8), Phat Pat (all the way from the U.K.), Amber (Bay Area UG), Vertigo, Tracer (San Francisco UG), Uphonic (E.T.A.), Joaqman (T&J Factory), Saucee (S.F.), Introducing Grant! (San Jose). This is a must attend party with lots to remember! Limited Pre-Sale Tickets go on sale May 10th for Only $19. Door will be $22, this party will take place at awesome facility but we do recommend Pre-Sale 13-at the Following Locations: Berkeley T&J Factory (510)704-9876, Santa Rosa Harmonics (707)571-8747 San Fran Frequency 8 (415)441-4142, Modesto Motion Music (209)577-6965 San Jose Solid Grooves (408)248-6399, Hayward Twilight Zone (510)538-7945. 415.721.3863 Friday, June 4th - Bliss DJ's House: , Johnny Fiasco (Chicago), Terry Mullan (CHicago) and Halo (Chicago) on 4 decks, Steve Loria (L.A.) and Tony on 4 decks, Donald Glaude (Seattle), Hippie (Denver), Rick V. and Dizzy on 4 decks, Karizma, Vince, Paul Gordon, Markus, Sugar D., Bryen, And IN THE JUNGLE ROOM:, Danny tha WIldchild (Chicago) and Phantom 45 (Chicago) on 4 decks, Dara (N.Y.), Flux w/ Jamalski, Presha and Stompa on 4, B-SIde, Ivry, Rif.... Held @ Cal Expo on in buildings A and B....All 3 rooms of sound will be covered by Mark Wayne.. Laser by Hollywood Dog...Visuals by I-Candy and L.S.D., Atmosphere by Funky Baby and A super large Chill Zone by Vega.... Presale Locations: In Tha MIx, Sacramento, 2329 I St. (916)442-0499, Solid Grooves 368 S. Bascom St., San Jose, (408)999-0259 Rock On, Fairfield, 1630 North Texas St. (707)422-2080, Motion Music, Modesto, 403 coffee St. (209)577-6965, Housewares, San Francisco, 1322 Haight st., (415) 252-1440 $25 @ the door and we have Very Limited 20 dollar Pre-sales . Sacramento. 916.554.0885 415.248.2678 408.920.2280 Friday, June 4th - ...your monthly turn-on...The RhythMethod Back to the Basics! Ethan (fnf), Ti-Fred, Joe Rice (fnf, cf, justice league, static). 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. Il Pirata, 16th St & Potrero, SF. http://www.bass-station.com/rm/ Saturday, June 5th - Technature presents It's Alive ABA structure ( SF ), pype (Toronto), dj shamanik (SF), dj swyrl (Portland), jara pxpnkn (Jazz Face, SF), zak (SF). Visuals by visuals: chromodoris vibrata, andy gillis, fungus productions, jojo laplume.Btw. 18th & 19th 7pm-3am, $10. Cell, 2050 bryant st. . http://www.plip.com/technature 415.474.3003 Saturday, June 5th - Blue Room & EyePhunk presents And Now! TIP Records UK (The Infinity Project), Techno/Trance DJ's, Lucas (MetalSpark- Blue Room NL), Dimitri, D.K.N. (TIP Rec./10Kilo UK), Adam Ohana (EyePhunk/BlueRoom/Ceiba) , Amazing Decor by Brahmas (TIP.UK), Drum & Space from Outer Bass DJ's, UFO (Phunckateck), Abstract (Phunckateck), Push (FutureBreaks Fm), Noel (Phunckateck), ArcAngel GabeReal (Future Breaks FM), Down Tempo Groovers, Lorin (Koinonea), Rob Rayle (Bufo/CeibaRec.), Surreal (EyePhunk/BlueRoom), Anon (EyePhunk/BlueRoom). Live: Synchro (TIP Rec./10Kilo UK), GMS (growling mad scientists-TIP Rec. UK). Celebrating the release of Ceiba Records, Miditation- Digital & Peaceful. 10pm-7am, 21+. $15 @ the entry portal. 550 Barneveld, SF. 1.888.682.7666 Saturday, June 5th - Gummiravers Thomas Trouble, Dj D. , Troy Roberts (Seattle), Tom Slik (Skills, Vertigo, SF), Dj Grant (San Jose), Dj Alert (SF). Flavored Raver productions presents a small, full-on candy trance party with the candy crowd's favorite twosome - Thomas Trouble and Dj D. Tickets: $15 pre-sale at Frequency 8, Trance and Jungle Factory, Solid Grooves, Harmonics. Big Heart City, 5th and Mission, SF. 415.267.3925 Saturday, June 5th - northbaycollective presents presents *S*H*I*N*E* 4 Rooms of Phunk. please call for more info. http://www.greenfieldgraphix.com/nbc.html 707.579.9688 Saturday, June 5th - Sister d&b room:, XJS, Alley Cat, Melanie (SF House Collective), Miss E (Future Breaks FM), House & Techno room: , Forest Green (techno west/cloud factory), Lori & Tracy. Sound by: cloud sound. Cross Street: Masonic. 21+. 1751 Fulton St., SF. http://www.xanthoria.com 415.255.4333 Saturday, June 5th - GoodeTyme Entertainment presents AMNESIA GoodeTyme Entertainment bring to you a Music lovers delight with reowned DJ's as follows: ONIONZ (ELECTRIC SOUL/Imperial Dub/Chocolate Factory- NYC), DORAN (Fragrant Music/RAM), JIM HOPKINS (Twitch/V-Wax/ELECTROLINERS,-SF), TONY (The Gatherings, SF), HAPPY KID MARTY (Happy Kids- SF), DJ TECHNIQUE (CLOCKWORK DJ's/Journeez Music), Homero X-Pinosa (GoodeTyme DJ's), Pistachio + Aonymous(Math Sound Workshop), Tracy (Sister/Daddy's Records), Jesse (the crate). Fully permitted and secure venue with over 40,000 square feet. 2 rooms +1 outside area. Industry-(promoters, venders, Art donations) 415.563.7777 $15. A limited number of $15.00 presale tickets will be on sale starting May 3. Door price will be $20.00. . http://www.GoodeTyme.com 415.674.1111 Saturday, June 5th - E.T.A. presents Monument to Eternity A Hard Trance Rising Event Uphonic, Kemical Kidd, Tracer, Dyloot, Depth, DJ D. This is a limited capacity, pre-sale only event. For more information please call our voice mail. 415.364.1803 Wednesday, June 9th - A Spooktacular Event DARK SPARKLE. $5. CAFE DU NORD, 2170 Market Street,, SF . Thursday, June 10th - CIRCUS Live Hip Hop Sacred Hoop, Four Korners, Dj Le Le. Jose's Caribbean, 2275 El Camino Real, Palo Alto. 650.317.3871 Friday, June 11st - VORG presents BREATHE A very special party at a once again brand spankin', fresh, new location!!! More TBA. 415.750.3100 Saturday, June 12nd - Curtis Bay's 1-Man Show of Organic Trip-Hop/Hip-Hop/Jazz/Drum-n-Bass is Curtis Bay, along with turntable madness of Intangible from Seattle, WA. 8mm 'Fly the Rhythm' Film Loops by Aermaneuver AKA Ariel Levy Contact the TongueBath Tub at kimgerly@holonet.net for info. 10pm-1:30am, . Cafe Du Nord, 2170 Market St., SF. Saturday, June 12nd - Uniting Souls presents presents SoundTextures Come feel the abstract sounds of the San Francisco underground! World renowned MARK Grant (Cajual/ Guidance Records), internationally acclaimed GEMINI aka, Spencer Kinsey (Cajual/Cyclo/Classic Records), Uniting Souls' much loved resident, DJ Moses will start off the night with a pumping 2 hour set. We're moving to keep you grooving to the 2nd Saturday of every month. For this special occasion we bring you two Chicago house legends performing together for the first time ever! We'll see you on the dancefloor! Tune into KALX 90.7 FM on Thursdays 12 - 3:00pm to win free passes. Between 3rd and 4th off Townsend. Email Us 10pm-4am, 21+, $12. 330 Ritch Street., SF. 415.273.5449 510.273.2493 Saturday, June 12nd - Silver Pearl Records presents QUEST Summer Solstice Guiding your Quest from dusk 'til dawn on 4 thumping sound systems with DJS: Jeno (Wicked, SF), Doran (Rampant Records and Hook Recordings, LA), Christopher Lawrence (Hook Recordings and Fragrant, LA), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records, SF), Steve Loria (Bang the Drum, LA), Barry Weaver (Funky Techno Tribe, Seattle), Astral Matrix (O.O.B.E. Music, SF), Jason Blakemore (Life Music, Aquarium, aka DJ Trance, LA), Tony (The Gathering, SF), Donald Glaude (Funky Teckno Tribe, Seattle), Caine (Silver Pearl, SF), MODA (Trancefusion Records), Greg Sandler (Harmony, SF), Tom LG (Silver Pearl, SF), Tracy (Sister and Quest, SF), Dieselboy (611 Records, Philadelphia), Rinse & Flux with MC Jamalski (B.A.S.S. Kru and Compound Records, SF), R.A.W. (Mictlan Recordings, LA), NMAN (Biofonik and Silver Pearl, SF), J-Bot (Harmonics, Santa Rosa), Incredible Ambient Chamber with:, B))merang and Triad, Many more to be announced.. As always, we will have amazing visuals in each and every room, thumping sound systems by Silver Pearl and JK, lasers in 2 rooms by UV99, environment by Silver Pearl, and incredible floral art by Anthony Ward of PassionFlora NYC. We will have a wonderful clean safe warehouse, plenty of FREE fruit arranged into beautiful edible altars, and lots of free water. Limited pre-sale tickets will be available May 15th at the following Bay Area locations... and remember, the first 500 pre-sale tickets will receive a FREE mix CD courtesy of Silver Pearl Records: Solid Grooves, San Jose (408) 248-6399, Daddy's Records, Berkeley (510) 665-1653, Harmonics, Santa Rosa (707) 571-8747, In the Mix, Sacramento (916) 442-0499, F-8, San Francisco (415) 221-4142, Compound Records, San Francisco (415) 864-8309, Pipeline, Santa Cruz (831) 425-7473, or by mail from Silver Pearl Records by e-mailing contact@silverpearl.com. http://www.silverpearl.com 415.273.5912 510.287.5620 408.278.5286 Saturday, June 12nd - Skills invites all a smiling to A STARRY NIGHT With very special guests from L.A., Thomas Michael, Thee-O, Demigod, Plus all your favorite local DJ's -, Dyloot, Tom Slik, Mars & Mystre, Radley, Thomas Trouble, DJ D, Uphonic & Kemical Kidd, Tracer & Telene, Happy Kid Marty & Happy Kid Ian.. 415.437.4460 510.869.4601 Saturday, June 12nd - Oblivion Melanie (SF), Keith O Reilly. For more info please email OblivianSF@hotmail.com For more information, please call: 579 Howard, SF. http://www.OblivionSF.com 415.339.8784 Sunday, June 13rd - Sugar Shack, Housepital & Kit Kat presents Kit Katsundaze A JellyBear, Andy Wasserman, Carolyn Handling & Brian Kadmiri Production Marques Wyatt, Maxi (NY), Julius Papp, Jellybean, John Howar. Kelly's Mission Rock, 817 China Basin @ 3rd St. & Mariposa, SF. Sunday, June 13rd - Raver Day at Great America Fun in the Sun!. Meet @ the front gate @ 11am. Great America, Great America Parkway, Santa Clara. Friday, June 18th - The creators of Foundation, All in the Family, Emerald City and the creators of K2 presents United. In our House room, Jeno (Wicked, Gathering, SF), Eric Nelson (Love Affair), Sol (Togetha), Tyler (Motorway), Markus Mark, JP (Kick Drum), In the Drum and Bass room, Hans (Motorway), Stompa (Pbs), Billy (916 Junglist), Patr!c (Vega.) , Special Guest MC Shock G (A.K.A. Humpty) with Money B from Digital Underground. Visuals by Eyelusions.Call Down Town Sounds for information and presale tickets 916-444-7639. 916.523.0027 Friday, June 18th - OPEN HOUSE presents Strictly Underground w/ your Open House Supastars: Serendipity, Unity, Styven & Scott Bliss, along with Guest Djs:, Evillyn (blessing us with her presence all the way from HAWAII), Joey Mazzola (Influence Recordings), Jason (Unite Prod.), Ryan Christopher, Levi, Secret Squirrel, Pengo, Gilad (5D), DevDawg (Roswell/McDonald Foundation), LadyJane tha' pimptress w/ MC Ragga Banton, Aspect(I.B.S), MES (Daddy's Records,KICK DRUM), and more TBA. $12 presale tickets are now available at: Daddy's Records (Berkeley) and Primal Records (Berkeley). First come first serve. THIS EVENT WILL SELL OUT!!!! *This is a 225 person max capacity party* Much love to all! And remember always, KEEP IT UNDERGROUND!! 225 presale tickets. SF. 510.288.7676 Friday, June 18th - Counterpoint Productions presents Commence More TBA, Housewaves and Trancefrequencies by BARRY WEAVER (Funky Techno Tribe, LA), THOMAS TROUBLE (Trance and Jungle Factory, SF), TONY (The Gathering, SF), RIG-A-TONY (Sagitariun), TYLER (Counterpoint), DENNIS (THC), DJ SCOTT (Kick Drum), SCI FI, DAVID, DJ GLOW. LASERS by HOLLYWOOD DOG, THUNDERING SOUND by COMMUNITY, FREE FRUIT and CANDY, 2 ROOMS. 9pm-6am, All ages. $12 w/ canned food $15 w/ out. Sacramento. http://counterpoint.sacone.com 916.783.9948 916.866.3266 Saturday, June 19th - Uniting Souls presents Housepitality "Like we always do about this time! TBA. A night full of rythmns that'll make you cream. 9pm-2am, . free b4 10pm.. Rico's Loft, 78 Minna st., SF. 415.273.5449 510.273.3493 Saturday, June 19th - Magic Playground Mix Master Mike, Jeno, U.F.O, Taj, Abstract, Tony, Mechete, Star Eyes, Rick V, Rktech, Kenneth Paul . Flat-presale will be released 2nd week of May. Turbo Sound System. Discount tickets for $20, 15 light shows, bounce castles,ball huts,the wall of velcro as well as a full turbo sound system.....give aways in our dance competion on our linolium dance floor. Fully Permitted 10pm-6am, $25. JACKSON STREET WAREHOUSE, 225 Jackson St, Oakland. http://www.magicplayground.com Saturday, June 19th - Feel Good Entertainment presents Splendor Blender : "Its time to get your mix on". The Summer Solstice PLURity Vibe-Fest. the First Ever : With 6 Incredible Rooms of Splendid Music, Deepsky - Live PA (Fragrant Records, LA), DJ D:FUSE (Expansion Project, Funked Up Records, Austin TX), Moda & Jazz-E, DJ Kevin Kind & Kwashi, Mike Barrett & Kid Bippy, Eric Spire, MC Ray Vonie, Joey Mazzola & David Garcia, Ghost & Frank Nitty, DJ Liquid & DJ RKTECH, Greg Sandler & Logik, Thomas Trouble & DJ D, Corey & Brent Vassar, BluTonic (Universe, Ministry Of Sound, UK), Rinse & Flux, Hak & Siphon, Sideburn Slim, Jeff Taisch, Turtle, MC Duh, Deepfog, B))merang, Triad, Bodhi, Skye, DJ Phelan, Joaqman, Kid Loose & Rossi, DJ Mad Merc, Joe Lanzon, Randy H., Willow, Shubert, The Higlanders : DJs Tomcat & Saucer, Supernatural Turntable Artists DJs , Relm, Swiftrock, Streak, Deus, Jahrome, Ajaxxx, DJ Derrick D, Scotty Fox, SunnMoonSekt (Performing Live), DJ Quest, J-Wicked, Rasta Cue Tip, Fashion with Passion (Interactive Multi-media Rave-Fashion Expo), BeatDown Sundaze Afterparty: DJs:, Paucus, Tripnotix, Gran-T, Breeze, Ulrich, DJ Prophet + Guests. A Limited Number of Discounted $25 discounted Pre-sale tickets go on sale May 21st. For Pre-sale ticket info please see http://www.sfrecords.com or http://www.tixtogo.com/go/feelgood Summer Solstice PLURity Vibe-Fest A portion of Proceeds will Benefit Oakland Outreach & Educational Programs. Next door to the Coliseum. Doors at 10pm sharp. Party goes All-Night Long and afterparty till Sunday Night!!! http://www.globalparty.com Keep It Real Good With Feel Good. A GlobalParty production - The big party with that small party feel. Oakland International Rave Center, 633 Hegenberger Rd. 415.263.0483 408.881.0785 510.888.2358 Saturday, June 19th - FREQUENCY 8 4 year Anniversary Celebration Summer Solstice Campout Weekend Mars, Mystre, Dyloot, Micron, Tracer, Radley, Uphonic, Telene, Greg Sandler. Saturday June 19th- Sunday 20th. Very limited pre-sale tickets avaliable at F-8, Harmonics, and Solid Grooves. http://www.frequency-8.com 415.541.5019 415.541.5863 415.541.5019 415.541.5863 Sunday, June 20th - Primal Groove Productions presents PULSE: A special Pre-Pride Party Blackstone (Faith, Endup), Ellen Ferrato (Sugar, Earth, Release), Trouble (Insomnia). This fun and funky Tea Dance features Primal Groove's trademark party novelties of colorful dancers, fierce models, party toys and other afternoon diversions. Claim your a prize inside. 4:30pm-11am, . Cover charge is $6 before 6:30 pm and $10 afterwards. . 1015 FOLSOM (@ 6TH), SF. Sunday, June 20th - Urban Development with Soundworks presents Substance Andre Lucero, Gouracandra. 3rd Sunday of every month [06.20.99 - special guest Mark Farina] Above Denny's in Japantown. 21+. 1705 Buchanan Street @ Post, SF. 415.339.8305 Sunday, June 20th - Hi Rise productions and Existential Sounds presents Backflip 2 year anniversary - Love and War Garth (Wicked), Jone`ne` (Stompy Hi-Fi), Markie (Wicked), Tasho (Stompy Hi-Fi), Jeno (Wicked), Preston (Stompy Hi-Fi), Moses (Sunshine Daydream), Girl Friday (Uniting Souls), fabuLizz (Uniting Souls), Seven (Hi Rise), Sol (Hi Rise), Michael Tello (Housepitality), Dave Chapman (Legion of Funk), Peterbilt (Hi Rise), Jason Henry (Legion of Funk), Push (Future Breaks), Miss E (Eklectik), PBS crew (Arc Angel Gabe Real, NoBattles, and Mateo), Jin (HiRise), Le'Le' (Legion of Funk). Tickets will go on sale Saturday, April 24 at local record stores: Tweekin Records, Housewares, Clear Records, Big Daddy's (Berkeley), and Primal Records (Berkeley). With food and festivities both indoors and by the pool. 12 pm-2am, . $10 in advance and $15 at the door. . Thursday, June 24th - XTORT Productions presents AMOEBA Simon Apex (SSU), Sascha23 (Xtort), dB (Xtort), Glow (Xtort), Dj Chad (Xtort/Alpha Zone). DIRECTIONS: Take I-80 east toward Reno, exit right on Madison, left on Auburn, right on Garfield. Turn left into first parking lot; building in back. First 50 people walk away with FREE promotional material from various record labels. FREE videogame booths provided by GAME-MASTERS. As always this is an ALL AGES event. Doors are open at 9PM so come early to beat the rush. Tickets: $8 at the door all night (come early to gaurantee entry :o). sacramento. http://home.earthlink.net/~sascha23 916.334.6200 Friday, June 25th - Nocturnal Productions presents X.O.X Returns 3 Year Anniversary Frankie Bones 2x4, Tony vs. Simon 2x4, Jim Hopkins, Mike Barrett, Leo, Dj Champ, Corey 2x4, Anton vs. Kwashi 2x4. Jungle and Trance lip TBA ASAP. Pre-sale tickets will only be $17. This event will sell out so please if you really want to go, please buy your presales. This event will be in a permitted location in a secure area. More info will be posted by the middle of may. This event will be my own pre-Freedom adventure. Friday, June 25th - climaXXX productions presents THUNDERDOME Trance:, Heidi & Anakin (Rebel Sound Alliance), DJ D (T&J Factory), Bryan Lee (Global Energy Music, SF/LA), DJ Eyal (Global Energy Music, Fragrant, Phatt Phunk Records, LA), Happy Kid Ian (Happy Kids), DJ 725 (Kuang Mark, XI), Happycore & Jungle:, Nebula (climaXXX), Simon Apex (Alpha Magic Recordings, UK) _-VS-_ DJ Nimh (Happy4Beat, Phoenix, AZ), DJ ansi (R.A.S.H., Redemption), DJ climaXXX (climaXXX). This will all go down in Berkeley, CA-400 person capacity. Free H2O, outdoor chill space, and more surprises... $10 Presale, $12 at the door. Presales available at Isolate Records, 2114 Addison, Berkeley.. 510.726.1303 Friday, June 25th - Squeeze Adnan, Nathan, Ray . In the Blue Room @ Nikita. 12 midnight-4am, 21+. 1015 Folsom, 1015 Folsom, SF. 415.789.7208 Saturday, June 26th - Insomniac presents ELECTRIC DAISY CARNIVAL! [area 1]- , Joey Beltran, Sandra Collins, Doran, Mars & Mystre, Fester, Huggie , [area 2] -, Bassibin twins, Steve Loria, Nigel Rchards, Tony, Hipp-E, Jason Blakemore, Jesse Brooks, [area 3]-, Phantom 45, UFO, Fury, Machete, Raymond Roker, Curios, DJ TAO (sac/LA), [area 4]-, DJ Paul, Rob Gee, Demigod, DNA, Simon Apex(sac), Paulina Taylor, Dig Dug. Location: Virgin-outdoor-never-before-raved-tree-lined-location!!!! complete with a crystal clear lake! Witness and behold INSOMNIACS GIANT SLIDE, The 200 ft. hight swing, the GIGANTIC Paratrooper, and the Two story house of Magical Mirrors. Plus more TBA. 310.288.3436 323.871.8522 714.647.5592 619.492.8567 909.424.3401 602.212.6748 Saturday, June 26th - BIO.LOGIC Wichdokta, Random, MRK, Micron, Oz, Blake, Nagual, R2-Witco, Anon, Eva, The 5lower Shop, Lorax, Sonja, Matt, Sha-Wan, more to come. Three rooms in the North Bay. Saturday, June 26th - The müvmental Collective presents Reality Used to be a Friend of Mine Juan Atkins (Metroplex/TVT/WaxTrax/R&S Records), ANI (On-E) formerly of DEEE LITE (zoo york media), Barry Weaver (Funky Tekno Tribe), DRC (Twin Soul Productions), Sleepy C (psycoactive/AVA), Jeff Samuel (Lo-Fi Record/Nonstatic), DJ Ghost (Ghostribe Krew), Rinse & Flux w/ MC Jamalski (B.A.S.S. KRU), Smalls & 7UP (5 star productions), Dyloot (Skills/Mhz), Shakes (müvmental), Mua'dib (müvmental). This party is dedicated to all the kids who know where the Vibe lives. Presale outlets: F-8 Compound Records, Solid Grooves, In the Mix, Trance & Jungle Factory, Harmonics. We come together to create something beautiful out of love. http://www.muvmental.com 415.789.7366 510.273.2435 Saturday, June 26th - Harmony More information TBA. Friday, July 2nd - T r a n q u i l i t y presents WELCOME TO TRANQUILITY An out door underground event pushing the power of trance. Alias (Tranquility, Question Mark Productions), Mystre (F-8), Uphonic (E.T.A.), Telene, Merlyn (V.O.R.G.). 200 limited $10 pre-sales ONLY. 415.435.7567 Saturday, July 3rd - July 4th - 8TH ANNUAL FREEDOM FESTIVAL Line-up T.B.A.. Flyers out soon. 415.905.8888 Friday, July 9th - Good Times an evening of progressive trance Doran (hook recordings, fragrant, rampant records;l.a.), Huggie (global energy musik, phatt phunk, fragrant;l.a.), Tap (Kids-N-Corperated, gruv home; fresno), Tyler (the H.H.C.; fresno) . Email goodtimes365@hotmail.com Free water and fruit. For a good time call: 10pm-6am, . tickets $10 at the door. Fresno. 559.921.3365 559.921.3555 Friday, July 9th - Atomic Angel Mars, Mystre, Dutch, Tracer, Happy Kid Marty, Vajra, Joseph Lee, KJ, Icon, Logrey, Cerium, Havoc. Friday, July 9th - Garnet presents Double Trouble Part I jungle with, Dieselboy, Fury, Flux, Rinse, Saucer + Tomkat, Rue, MC Jamalski. 415.436.0735 Friday, July 9th - children of the sun presents Sunshine Of Your Love a summertime celebration of love, life, and happiness... 415.835.3144 Saturday, July 10th - CoolWorld Productions Present... presents CYBERFEST '99 America's biggest allnight dance & music festival just got bigger... Chemical Brothers, Nizam, BT, Goldie, Josh Wink, Dj Rap, Planet Asia, Dj Dan, Felix Da Housecat, Richard ("Humpty Vission" Mariner, Florida), Roy Davis Jr.(Easedrop, Florida), Spacetime Continuum, Lost At Lost, Garth,, Raymond Roker, Liquid, EFX, Big Ed & M2000, Reza (LA), Thomas Michael, Simon, Dj Bizz (Texas), Chris Specht (Texas), Ghost, Frank Nitty, Eric Spire, Pete Avila, Darkhorse, St john, Adam, Greg Sandler, Eric Brown, Happy Kid Marty, Happy Kid Ian, DJ Rktech, Dj Mad Merc, Kevin Kind, Mrs. Knight, Wish FM, Mike Bee, Sea, Sideburn Slim, Professor Smith, Siren Sifu, Profit, Dj Griff, Kwashi, David Garcia, more TBA. The 6th annual Future music festival a massive 12 hour festival of the future celebrating life through music and uniting the entire Universe... San jose, CA. USA). 250 Mindblowing Acres of Freedom to dance with 40,000 music revellers...7 entertainment arenas, a raging funfair with wild and interactive rides Exteme sports with the worlds biggest Half pipe and much, much more... 5pm-6am, . Santa Clara County Fairgrounds in the heart of Silicon Valley, 344 Tully Road, San Jose. http://www.coolworldprod.com 415.979.4543 408.235.1077 510.273.9542 Saturday, July 10th - TRANCE AND JUNGLE FACTORY presents Man in the Moon Reunited Thomas Trouble, Dj D, Eric Spire, Mars, Mystre, Dyloot, Tom Slik. Please check back soon for a huge line-up. Capacity is limited 2000 people, so please purchase your pre-sale tickets early. 415.248.2669 Saturday, July 10th - 6 in da mornin productions presents Ground Zero 4: Judgement Night - The Final Chapter (6AM 3 Year Anniversary) TBA. World Class dj lineup and live acts to be unveiled on Saturday, April 3rd 1999. Promoters and vendors please contact 6AM on the industry line (800) 683-4569. Except no imitations. 415.995.1940 Friday, July 16th - July 18th - BioLogic presents biological a two day, two soundsystem campout adventure TBA. All profit from this event will be donated to drawbridge, an arts program for homeless children. (this party should not be confused with the Full Circle Productions party in the North Bay,"bio.logic") Friday, July 16th - Garnet presents Double Trouble Part II jungle with, Danny the Wildchild, Phantom 45, Dr. Groo, Rinse, Flux, MC Jamalski. 415.436.0735 Saturday, July 17th - Torque Productions presents Zodiac House:, Terry Mullan (Catalyst Records/Speaker Freakers/H-Project/Moody, Chicago), vs. Halo (Catalyst Records/Speaker Freakers/H-Project/Moody, Chicago), vs. Hipp-E (H-Project/Catalyst/Moody, Denver/SD), Ty Tek (Teknight Records/Basic Entertainment/Torque Resident, Denver), vs. Little Mike (Basic Entertainment, Denver), Mike Barrett (SF) VS. Kid Bippy(SF), Tracer (Skills, SF) VS. Torque(Torque Resident, SF), Rick V. (Torque Resident,Sac) vs. Bryan, Drum and Bass:, Fury (Lower World, Denver), Deacon (Wreck Ignition/Ch. 36, L.A.), Rinse and Flux (Seperate sets-SF B.A.S.S. Kru/Compound Records), Sage (Eklektic Resident, SF), Rue (Compound Records, SF), Sharp (Torque Resident, SF), Siren (SF), DJ Dot Com (aka Kid Bippy, SF), Havoc (SF). Limited Pre-sale tickets available for $20 @ Housewares (SF), Compound Records (SF), Trance and Jungle Factory (Berkeley), Daddy's Records (Berkeley), In tha Mix (Sac), Solid Grooves (San Jose) Harmonics (Santa Rosa)-Rock On (Fairfield) 415.345.9668 Saturday, July 17th - INNER EYE presents oOo AREA 51 oOo ((((((CONTACT)))))) TBA. We are organizing this event to be the most epic event of the summer... Top secret information will be released on May 1st, until then all info is CLASSIFIED... Stay tuned in... Friday, July 23rd - Red Skye Productions presents Scoobi Snack Henrik Rosdahl (no tv, SF ), Crom , Charlotte the Baroness (Sunburn Hardkiss, SF), David Michael (Phasedmusic, Wish, Spundae, SF), Hank the guy with records , 707.793.2150. North Bay Location. Advance tics @ f8 and harmonics. Rumor has it Dave n Char are going 2by4 for 3 hours hmmmm.... $7. Sunday, July 23rd - FREQUENCY 8 Stay Tuned In Mars, Mystre, Dyloot. FREE Daytime Event in Golden Gate Park 1-6pm. More TBA. 415.541.5019 Friday, July 23rd - Megahertz presents 80MHz Dyloot, Aspect, Radley Marx, Elias Smith.. more TBA http://www.mhz.nu/80mhz 415.395.8448 Saturday, July 24th - Unity Vibe Tribe presents NETWORK Eric Micheal (Unity Vibe), LSDJ (Unity Vibe) , Moda (Transfusion), N8 (Unity Vibe). Unity Vibe Tribe invites you to join us NETWORK Together, To Understand a higher level of Electronic music. This line up is far from being completed..Please check with our voice lines 4 more information..This event will be dedicated 4 those that Truly appreciate Electronic music..100% pure vibe fully permited, enormous capacity. Saturday, July 24th - Open House w/your Open House Dj's: Scott Bliss, Serendipity, Styven & Unity, along with Guest Dj's: , Woodrow Low (A.M. Prod., Seattle), Jon Lee (Concepts, Seattle), Mes (Daddy's, Kick Drum), Joey Mazzola (Influence Recordings), Secret Squirrel, Jason (Unite Prod.), Gilad (5D), more TBA!!. Much love to all! And remember always, KEEP IT UNDERGROUND!!. SF location. 18+. (pre-sale tix available soon!). SF. 510.288.7676 Saturday, July 24th - @spire, 2 years in the making... We're back... Tell a friend! HK Marty (Happy Kids Productions), HK Ian (Happy Kids Productions), Carlos (N.Y. / S.F. House Collective), Greg Sandler (Harmony / Harmonics), Li (Harmony), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records / Quest), Pistachio & Anonymous (Math Sound Workshop / @spire), Logic (North Bay Collective), DRC (Twin Souls Productions), Gianni (Harmonics / Spundae / Release), Theo (Biohazard / Base 9, L.A.). We're back... Tell a friend! More information coming soon! 100% permitted in a centralized Bay Area location. 10pm-6am, . 415.273.5513 415.273.5513 Friday, July 30th - Irrepressible A night of Jungle Bizness with House and Breakbeats Jungle, Lady Jane tha' Pimptress (Berkely), B-Side(Imagine Music/916 Junglist/Liquid Sky Tour/Sac), Dre (916 Junglist/Sac) on 2x4, Rif (In Tha Mix/Sac), Stompa (In Tha Mix/Sac) on 2x4, Tofu (SNT Craftmasters/Long Beach)a, Slim (SNT Craftmasters/Sac), Mo (916 Junlist/Sac), Frost (Sac) on 2x4. HOUSE/BREAKBEAT, JusTOM (Sac), Freddy (Natrilly Kleen/Sac), Fuz-E (Fuz-E/Subsonic Underground/Sac), Paul Gordon(Sac), More DJ's TBA . Live: MC Skurge (Craftmasters/Sac), MC Phoez (Sac). 916-484-5814 Friday, July 30th - AmenSpecialistsCrew presents Irrepresseble TBA. Two rooms with jungle and breakbeat/house Sacramento. Friday, July 30th - SKILLS presents Cake Walk Dyloot, Tom Slik, Radley, Mars & Mystre, Ron Allyn. Full EAW sound by JK. 5 watt argon laser by UV99. Lighting by Impact. Intellabeams by Math Workshop. Glow by SKILLS, Free candy, fruit & H20. 100% fully permitted & secured. Thanx to all who have supported us, please come with open minds. 10pm-6am, $11. pre-sale ONLY! @ F8, T&J Factory, Solid Grooves, Harmonics and In tha Mix.. 415.437.4460 510.869.4601 Saturday, July 31st - Mytical Mayhem Productions (Co originator of Rebirth) presents Serenity Ghost (Ghostribe), Greg Sandler (Harmony & Harmonics, SF), Moda (Transfusion), Gianni (Release, & Spundae, SF), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records & Quest, SF), Joey Mazzola (Housenation, Influence Recordings), DJ Doubt (Influence Recordings, Housenation), MC Jamalski (B.A.S.S. Kru, SF), Prophet (Transfusion), Hak, Siphon & Sideburn Slim, Angry Kid Spek vs. Danja (Ghostribe), Kevin Kind (FGE), Kwashi (FGE), Turtle (Mixology), Eric Brown (Rebirth & Harmonics), Moshe (SF), Thomas Trouble (T&J Factory, More TBA, including a surprise out of town Trance DJ. SilverPearl Sound and others.. For information please call Lighting by Stimulites and others. Lasers. Free Fruit, Lemonade, Candy and raver bag o tricks with glow sticks to the first 500 people. CD giveaways. AromaTherapy Environment. Buy tickets on line @ tixtogo.com 10pm-6am, . 415.789.7344 408.882.5090 415.789.7344 408.882.5090 Saturday, July 31st - Full Circle Reunion - TechNique James Christian (NYC), Vicious Vic (NYC), Tony, Garth, Simon, DJ Matthew, with more T.B.A.. More info on the way! Sunday, August 1st - Existential Sounds presents... presents Birth...a celebration of Life. Garth (Wicked), Markie (Wicked), John Howard (Heavy Rotation), Chang (Simons, Gainesville, FL), Three (Hallucinations Records, Tampa, FL), Brian Busto (The Rubb, Tampa, FL), and more TBA. . An indoor/outdoor event featuring an art show. (between Potrero and Utah) Art show from 3PM-8PM. Music from 2PM-2AM. Tickets available May 31, 1999. Buses to the location: 33 Stanyan 22 Fillmore 9 San Bruno. email: avatarz@earthlink.net avatarz@earthlink.net or salivatethurs@hotmail.com Tickets available at Tweekin' Records, Housewares, Big Daddys (Berkley), and Primal Records (Berkley). Free before 4 pm, $8 in advance, $15 at the door. . IL Pirata, 2007 16th St, SF. 415-626-2626. Saturday, August 7th - Torque Productions presents Leo House:, CZR (MCM TOUR... Subliminal Records, Moody, Catalyst; Chicago), Angel Alanis (MCM TOUR... Chicago), Halo (MCM TOUR... Chicago), Chris Irvin (Satelite Records; NYC), Ty Tek (Teknight Records, Basic Entertainment, Torque Resident; Denver), Torque vs. Tracer (Torque Residents; SF), Rick V. (In tha Mix, Torque Resident; Sac), Fabuliz (Consciouness Session; SF), ***More TBA***, Drum and Bass:, Danny tha Wildchild (MCM TOUR... Good Boys, Camouflage Sound System; Chicago), 3D (MCM TOUR... Forte Records; Chicago), Fury (Lower World; Denver), Rinse vs. Flux (S.F. B.A.S.S. Kru, Compound Records), Sharp (Torque Resident; SF), Satori C (Humble Souls, M.E.S.S., Basic Entertainment, Torque Resident; Denver), ***More TBA***. Saturday, August 7th - Space Children's 4th Annual Juggernaut Festival! Tim Taylor (Missle Rec. UK), Cesar, Twerk, Greg Sandler x Dutch, Mars x MystrE, UFO x Noel, PBS Crew. Live: Spacetime Continuum, Crash Worship, Cosmic Selector x Buna, BazZaRrO. Much, much more TBA, get ready for something EPIC this summer!!! We've missed you, and we can't wait to party with you all again. *Keep in touch with our info sources, we've got a couple of free parties coming soon... http://www.spacechildren.com 415.675.4700 Saturday, August 7th - Native Vision Productions presents The Prophesee DJ LINE UP & MORE INFO TO FOLLOW IN JUNE . We Invite you to celebrate the remembrance of the Prophecy that made the world what it is today. The Prophecy goes like this: In the beginning we sat in a circle to share and remand as one with each other and Mother Earth, then the creator came down and split us up in to the red, white, yellow, and black we were all to accomplish a certain number of things then come back into the circle and share. We need to remember the root of it all. So we the people for the Earth can live. http://www.globalparty.com/nvp/ 415.281.0777 Sunday, August 8th - 3horsemen Productions presents DAISY Thomas Trouble, D.J. D, Simon, Greg Sandler, Elias Smith, J-BOT.. A party with real heart. It's Daisy's birthday and she wants to see all those happy party friends of hers there. Join us in S.F. because the weekend is not over till it's over. With free snacks at 5PM and a hunken big cake at 6PM. We are all one big family kids so join us in celebrating Daisy's birthday and if your birthday is this weekend you get in free. Party is limited to 650 pre-sale tickets. At the door admittance as space becomes available. Get your $15 pre-sales at: Harmonics(Santa Rosa), Frequency 8(San Francisco),T&J Factory(Berkeley)"HAPPY BIRTHDAY DAISY" 4pm-4am, . http://www.3horsemen.com 415.721.3929 Friday, August 13rd - August 15th - Camp Harmony TBA. All weekend camping celebration!!! More information TBA. Friday, August 21st - Clockwork Eventz & Goode Tyme Entertainment presents The Vinyl Frontier with a world class line-up of DJ's from all around the world...not to be missed!!. 415.721.4713 408.747.7742 510.733.1140 Saturday, August 21st - FREQUENCY 8 Cybertrance Communication Stay Tuned In.. http://www.frequency-8.com 415.541.5019 415.541.5863 Friday, August 27th - August 28th - VORG presents A SPECIAL 2-DAY LAKESIDE CAMPOUT with amazing European live-performers. More TBA. 415.750.3100 Saturday, August 28th - Aliennation krew presents Abduction ! With the bay area's top dj's!, Tony, Simon, Frank Nitty, Joey Mazzola, Tripnotix, Paucus, Tommy Meyer, More t.b.a!. Main flyer coming in june 28, 1999!!! Saturday, August 28th - The Trance and Jungle Factory presents TICKLE 4 Extravaganza!!! Watch out for an amazing line-up!. More info t.b.a. 415.248-2669 Saturday, August 28th - InnerEye and (((THUMP))) Radio presents HALLUCINATION - 4th Annual pre-burningman trip-out HALLUCINOGEN - LIVE P.A. (Twisted Records, UK), TRISTAN (Twisted Records, UK), SIMON H. (Twisted Records, UK 1999 tour), PSY-WILD (213 Records), DUTCH (InnerEYE), others T.B.A. . 3 Areas,Techno/Trance room, Jungle/Breaks room, and Down Tempo/Ambient room. Amazing line-up and San Francisco Venue. More to come....... http://www.innereye.org 415.339.8082 510.595.5555 Saturday, September 4th - Univerbal Productions presents Labor of Love Main Room, Pushpac World Tour, Paul Johnson (Chicago), Robert Armani (Chicago), DJ Skip (Chicago), Aaron Ochoa (Nashville), Johnny Fiasco (Casual Records - Chicago) , Garth (Wicked - S.F. - Greyhound), Ian Sanchez (Univerbal), Wesley Von Niessen (Univerbal), Room 2 - Decorated Souly by Moontribe, Justin (Trance - Univerbal), Happy Kid Ian (Happy Kids), Logik (NBC), Mike Moss (Togetha), Larry (Swing Kid), Protolab (Live Drums and Bass), Hysterisis Loop (Evan). Send Email to pe@ce@univerbal.com Sound Lights and Lazers by Loud Sound Audio - (Sac Production Services) 45,000 Watts thumping through the most advanced sound systems made today. Projecting Pro Logic warp inductions to all. Avanue Illumination - The creators of Disney's Electric Light Parade. Visual advocates of Hysteria. Lazer Fasination - 360 degrees of full spectrum all animated lazer visuals. Tickets go on sale June 1st. Tickets are $20 before August 1st and $25 through September 4th. For Tickets call Arco Arena, Sacramento, CA. http://www.univerbal.com 916.551.2727 916.928.6900 Saturday, September 4th - Feel Good Entertainment presents Megga-Buzz 4-U The 4th Annual Labor Day 3-Day Holiday Weekend PLURity Vibe-Fest! The Premier of local DJ Showcase. Buzz Line Birthday party celebration event. Keep it Real Good with Feel Good. http://www.globalparty.com Sunday, September 5th - DSM presents Sunny Daylight A fully permitted outdoor event featuring your favorite local house, jungle, and trance DJs. . More reports to follow... Friday, September 10th - (((THUMP))) Radio presents X-Dream!!! (blue room records) TBA. Check back soon for more info. Saturday, September 11st - We're celebrating another year with EARCANDY Mars (F8), Mystre (F8), Dutch (Area 51), Greg Sandler (Harmony), Uphonic (ETA), Dyloot (Skills), Tracer (EarCandy), Micron (Vibration), Happy Kid Ian (Happy Kids), more TBA. 415.281.8384 Friday, September 17th - Megahertz presents 100MHz Aspect, Radley Marx, Elias Smith, Dyloot, Special Guests.. more TBA http://www.mhz.nu/100mhz 415.395.8448 Saturday, September 18th - ASR 2 Year Anniversary Three room's of superb DJ's TBA..... This event will be in celebration of ASR's two year anniversary, therefore ASR will go back to it's roots, the Monterey Bay. Saturday, September 18th - Silver Pearl Records presents Quest Christopher Lawrence (Hook Recordings and Fragrant, LA), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records, SF), Garth (GreyHound Records & Wicked, SF), Doran (Rampant Records and Hook Recordings, LA), Tony (The Gathering, SF), Mars ans Mystre (Frequency 8 Cybertrance Pioneers, SF), Dieselboy (611 Records, UK), Kaos and Method One (Nexus Records, UK), Trace (No U Turn and DSCI4 Records, UK), Sage (Phunkateck, SF), Dara (Breakbeat Science, NY), nman (Silver Pearl, SF), Mc Duh, Mc Dub2, Mc Jamalski (Ruffneck Reality, NY), Caine (Silver Pearl, SF), Greg Sandler (Harmony, SF), Tom LG (Silver Pearl, SF), Dj Prophet (Trancefusion Music, SF), Tracy (Sister and Quest, SF), J-Bot (Harmonics, Santa Rosa), Macadio (First Light, SF), Dyloot (Skills, SF), Micron (Viberation, SF), Dj D (Trance and Jungle Factory, Berk), Thomas Trouble (Trance and Jungle Factory, Berk), Incredible Ambient Chamber with, B))merang and Triad, many more artists to be announced.... As always, we will have amazing visuals in each and every room, thumping sound systems by Silver Pearl and JK, lasers in 2 rooms by UV99, environment by Silver Pearl, and incredible floral art by Anthony Ward of PassionFlora NYC. We will have a wonderful clean safe warehouse, plenty of FREE fruit arranged into beautiful edible altars, and lots of free water. Limited pre-sale tickets will be available August 15th at the following Bay Area locations... and remember, the first 500 pre-sale tickets will receive a FREE mix CD courtesy of Silver Pearl Records: Solid Grooves, San Jose (408) 248-6399, Daddy's Records, Berkeley (510) 665-1653, Harmonics, Santa Rosa (707) 571-8747, In the Mix, Sacramento (916) 442-0499, F-8,San Francisco (415) 221-4142, Compound Records, San Francisco (415) 864-8309, Pipeline, Santa Cruz (831) 425-7473, Mixology, Santa Rosa (707) 526-1230, Cafe Kaldi, San Rafael (415) 457-6562, Yin Yang, Sebastapool (707) 823-1750, Rock On, Fairfield (707) 422-2080, Trance and Jungle Factory, Berkeley (510) 704-9876, at www.sfrecords.com, or by mail from Silver Pearl Records by e-mailing contact@silverpearl.com http://www.silverpearl.com 415.273.5912 510.287.5620 408.278.5286 Saturday, September 25th - Harmony Sixth Year Anniversary Celebration!!! TBA. More Information TBA Saturday, October 2nd - Mystical Mayhem line up TBA. Details TBA 415.789.7344 408.882.5090 Saturday, October 2nd - E.T.A. presents The Red Shift Info T.B.A.. Saturday, October 9th - Skills trance room:, Dyloot & Tom Slik, Radley Marx, Mars & Mystre, Thomas Trouble, Happy Kids Ian & Marty, hardcore/happyhardcore room: From L.A.- , Ron D. Core, Demigod, Paulina Taylor, Plus locals - , Aspect, Simon Apex, Uphonic. 415.437.4460 510.869.4601 Saturday, October 16th - The Trance and Jungle Factory presents *****TICKLE 5!!!***** TBA. watching this space... 415.248-2669 Saturday, October 23rd - Dub'L Vision Productions presents Tba Jeno (Wicked),, Tony (Gathering), Shubert (Dub'L Vision), Vertigo (Trance & Jungle Factory), Oddeci (Blankface), Keith Edwards (Chemistry) . Much much more Tba. Saturday, October 30th - Coolworlds Halloween Festival TBA. Location & World Class Lineup to be announced soon 415.979.4543 408.235.1077 Saturday, November 6th - Harmony TBA. More information TBA. Saturday, November 13rd - Silver Pearl Records presents Quest 2 Year Anniversary TBA . Stay tuned for details... http://www.silverpearl.com 415.273.5912 510.287.5620 408.278.5286 Saturday, November 20th - Pacific United Ravers (PÜR) presents AWAKEN DJs TBA SOON. What was once a dream, a vision, a fantasy has finally become a reality to the PuR family. Along the road to the making of this event we have had many supporters contributing and combining their thoughts, skills, and love just so you, the raver, can indulge in our makings. We will be having 2 rooms, Techno/Trance in one room and Hardcore in the other, we will also have a lovely Ambient room. We will be showcasing all your favorite local DJs as well as premiering our own resident DJs that we guarentee you will see or expierience more of in the future. We welcome you to the awakening of the PÜR Kru and the setting of the vibe for the 2000 underground party scene! Voice Mail coming very soon... Send mail to PuR_iNSaNaTee@yahoo.com Saturday, November 27th - Feel Good Entertainment presents The Spirit of Giving The 3rd Annual Thanksgiving 4-day Holiday Weekend Plurity Vibe-fest Keep it Real Good with Feel Good. http://www.globalparty.com W E E K L I E S House/techno/acid jazz/jungle/ambient/etc reg'lar happenins Some of them may have ended - let me know when that happens... Friday Jade - Jayvi Velasco (Resident), Pablo (Resident), deMILO. Future Guest Djs include: Joe Lanzon, Norm Stradley, Mykl, T.G. Boy, Adolph, Patrick Wilson. 9pm -, 21+. 175 North San Pedro, San Jose. 408.298.9299 888.882.21XL Deeper - Resident dj's, Laron, Ra-Soul, Laird. 917 Folsom St, SF. 415.273.1170 [5.28 - Felix the Dog (Black Diamond/Psychofunkdiscodelic)] The Bassment - Bringing in Top SF and International Drum & Bass Talent every week.... w/DJ TBA.. 11pm-3am, $10. Get a Bassment Flyer, bring it and avoid the lines(via vip line) & get a $2 discount before 12am. In the Bassment of 1015 Folsom, 1015 Folsom, SF. LIFE - Life SUCKS, and then theres Friday! w/DJ Mark Farina. Cross streeet: 4th. VIP Lounge and Oyster Bar. 10pm-, 21+, $10. Big Heart City, 836 Mission. Empire - DJ Party Ben. Empire, SF's own big-beat boutique At the corner of Third. Dj Party Ben, best known for his party reports on subsonic, will spin the sounds of Fatboy Slim, Chemical Brothers, Roni Size Reprazent, Prodigy and more. empire will also occasionally feature guest appearances from world renowned DJs. 9pm-2am., . Manhattan Lounge, 699 Market Street, SF. Dance Spirit - Leslie Shill. every first and third Friday evenings in april. $10. Nautilus Health Club, 4th street, San Rafael. Nikita - house, techno w/DJs Simon (Resident), Jeno (Resident), Jerry Bonham (Resident), Kayar (Resident for the drum & bassment), Kaos (Resident for the drum & bassment), Flux (Resident for the drum & bassment), Rinse (Resident for the drum & bassment). Broadcast live on the net at www.1015.com. Downstairs, Sticks and Stones- provacateurs of Bass present Drum + Bass with Resident Dj Kayar 10pm-6am, 21+, $10. Free before 10:30 PM. 1015 Folsom St, SF. http://www.spundae.com 415.267.0568 [6.11 - legendary club from England RENAISSANCE - Dave Seamen (England), Anthony Pappa (england)] [6.18 - Paul van Dyk (Germany)] [6.25 - DJ Wada (Japan)] [7.16 - Andrew Weatherhal (England)] [7.23 - Scott Henry (Baltimore)] [7.30 - Derrick Carter (Chicago), Stacey Pullen (Detroit)] RoaM - an evening of sophisticated deep house... w/DJs Chad Mitchell, JP Soul, Dan Smith. 21+, Free. Liquid, 2925 16th St, SF. 415.289.6833 Stir-Fri-Day - happy-hour eclectic grooves served up by resident beat chefs w/DJs Jason Fluid, Shaolin, Maneesh the Twister, Plus weekly guests. 5pm-9pm, 21+. Minna St Gallery, 111 Minna St, SF. 0 415.974.1719 Bohemian Lounge - Intergalactic Funk Collages w/DJs Toph2000, rotating guests Pollywog, Manny Rosa, Charlotte the Baroness, Consuelo (Kevin). 9ish-2am, 21+, Free. the gorgeously restored McCarthy's Bar, 2327 Mission @ 19th, SF. 415.332.5800x211 (redwine) Melon - house w/DJs Dano, JZ, guests. First Friday of each month in the blue Room @ Nikita. PLEASE NOTE: MELON WILL RESUME, June 4th, 1999. 11pm-5am, 21+. 1015 Folsom, SF. http://www.redmelon.com 415.561.9215 Angel - house, tribal house, funk, modern rock, trance, progressive house, deep house, house, trip hob, soul, beats w/DJs Harry Who?, Rick Preston, Guests djs. 6 Artistic Rooms featuring Funk, Trip Hop, R&B, Soul Classics, beats Modern Rock, Trance, Progressive House, deep House and House. 9pm-2am, 21+, $10. Club Ecco, 87 North San Pedro, San Jose. http://www.clubecco.com/days.htm 408.947.1667 408.793.0328 The Davis Family Happy Hour - Local Dj Superstars, The Davis-get-down-funky-like-that-crew. Your favorite brews on tap. 3pm-7pm, 18+, Free. UCD Silo Pub, Hutchinson Drive, Davis. http://www.geocities.com/Hotsprings/Falls/2500 Launch - It'll give sump'din foer da yung;unz to doc. w/DJs Resident Djs:, BombRocker (Pure Tryb, WC), Phil-e-Cheez (Walnut Creek), Weekly guests. 18 & under (if you can pass for under 18). House, Trance, Breaks, Jungle. 7:30pm-11:00pm, 18+, Free. Walnut Creek Civic Center, Civic Park, Walnut Creek. Saturday Housepitality - like we always do about this time w/DJs in the attic:, Jonene (Stompy), Jason henry (Salivate), Dj Riddler? (resident), in the insect lounge:, Push (Future Breaks 90.3 FM), Lo-ki (Koncrete Jungle), Dj Lexxus!. Every 1st and 3rd Saturday of the Month. Join us for a night of intense house and jungle rhythms! 9pm-2am, $10. free B4 10. 415.273.5449 510.273.2493 Tek-No-Bas - techno, jungle w/DJs Stealth, Danger. Expect to hear jungle, drum and base, and techno both Detroit and European. 9pm-2am, 21+. $5 cover from 10-2. Club 1028, 1028 Geary St., SF. Pablos Sugar Shack - Pablo's Resident DJs:, John Howard, Norman Stradley, Jellybear, Miguel Migs, Rasoul, Romanowski. Big Heart City, 836 Mission Street, SF. http://www.pablos.com [4.10 - Ellen Ferrato, Miss Megan] Other Whirled - House, Techno w/DJs Nobel, Vince, Christine, Daniel, Henrik, guests. saturday morning 5:30am-3pm, 21+. the EndUp, 6th Street @ Harrison, SF. 415.208.7665 Release - House, techno, jungle, funk, trip hop, disco w/DJs Doc Martin (1st Saturday each month), Marques Wyatt (2nd Saturday), Deep Dish (3rd Saturday), Terence Toy, Julius Papp, Behrouz, Tom Thump, Ellen Ferrato, Norm, Thomas Roberts, BB Hayes, Jason Edwards, Anthony Scott, Jerry Ross, Eric Lacy, Atom, DJ D, Gianni, special guests, Martin, Bruce, DeMilo. Release has a dress code. 10pm-9am, 21+, $10. 1015 Folsom, SF. http://www.sfstation.com/clubs/release.htm 415.281.0823 [5.29 - Farley & Heller begin their Mixer Magazine Tour] [6.12 - Marques Wyatt and Erick Morrillo] [6.19 - Deep Dish] [6.26 - CJ McIntosh] La Belle Epoque - 21st Century Drum n' Space w/DJs Mike Bee, Wish FM, Sea, guests. 10pm-2am, 21+. the Top, 424 Haight St, SF. Carry On - Underground house and garage music. w/DJ Mauricio Aviles. Cross Street: Howard. 10:30pm-4am, 21+, $8. Club Asia, 201 9th St., SF. Club Universe - Funk, House, High energy dance. w/DJ Special Guests and artists every week. 9:30pm-7am, 21+, $10. free b4 11pm. 177 Townsend, SF. 415.289.6650 FreeStyle - House and Funk w/DJs Christopher (Resident), Weekly Guests. Hosted by Mizz Ana Maronic. 21+, $5. free before 11pm. 399 9th St., SF. PUSH - house w/DJs your pushers, mouse, travis, chris orr. Matt valenz creates sonic sculpture for the dancefloor through the mediums of hi-tech deep house and technofunk. A popular underground affair attended by the city's most adventurous party people... this AIN'T the sound factory. Between Market and Mission. 9pm-2am, 21+, $7. Jessy Alley, SF. Plush - house, techno, trance, funk, trip hop, soul, beats, 70's w/DJs Resident Djs:, Thayton, Johnny, Julius Papp, Gianni (San Francisco), Scott DC (San Francisco), BBHayes, Guest from the bay area and around the world. Visuals by Jose G. Museo Contempo.Martini Bar on the Patio. Featuring the best Gin and Vodkas. Open for Happy Hour @ 5pm. No cover before 9:30pm. 4 Dance Areas featuring Funk, Trip Hop, R&B, Sould Classics, beats, 70's House, Trance Progressive House and Deep House. 21+, $10. Free before 9:30pm. Club Ecco, 87 North San Pedro, San Jose. http://www.clubecco.com/days.htm 408.947.1667 408.793.0238 Tricorder - downtempo, hiphop, electro, breakbeat w/DJs marlo, monkey, flint, special guests.. Teetotling our way through the classics you've never heard before. Every 1st and 3rd Saturday Located on 24th between Mission and Valencia. 9pm-2am, 21+, $1. The Attic, 3336 24th Street, SF. http://www.shooby.com/tricorder Wicked Session One - drumnbass, ambient, hiphop w/DJs Sep (turntables), Stephen Kent (digeridoo), Peter Valsamis (percussion), Echo. "Wicked Session One" is the first in a series of upcoming nights in 1999 featuring acoustic and electronic musicians and DJS exploring the connection betwen dub, drum& bass, hip hop and ambient music. $6. Elbo Room, 647 Valencia, SF. Flikker - house w/DJs Rotating residents, Jus' Joel, dj d-paul, lee., Plus special guests.. 9pm-2am, 21+, $3. free before 10pm. Sacrifice, 800 South Van Ness @ 19th, SF. Sunday Bionic - bringing dubby dancefloor delerium and spaced out house every sunday w/DJs Solar, Mark E Quark, IZ. 10pm-2am, $3. the Top, 424 Haight, SF. Spundae - House, Techno w/DJs Carlos, David Michael, weekly guests. free b4 10:30p For 02.14.99 - 6 Year Anniversary Party! 5 elements giving you 11 decor by Ashley. 10pm-5:30am, 21+, $5. 1015 Folsom St, SF. http://www.spundae.net 415.974.9389 [5.30 - Memorial Day Weekend Special Line up coming. Stay tuned.] Leopard Lounge - Acid Jazz, Funk, Soul, Pop & Live Bands. w/DJs Jerry Ross, guests. The Hi-Fi, 2125 Lombard @ Fillmore, SF. 415.771.2583 Pleasuredome - Funk, House w/DJs Neil Lewis, guests. 21+, $8. 177 Townsend, SF. 415.985.5256 Dub Mission - SF's only dub night. The best in dubs and roots every Sunday. w/DJs I, Maneesh the Twister, Vinnie, Sep (kusf/kpfa), J.Boogie ("Beatsauce"), Ludichris, other suprises. Contact 647 Valencia @ 17th, mission. http://www.geocities.com/~dub_mission/ 415.552.7788 [5.30 - J BOOGIE's DUBTRONIC SCIENCE, DJ SEP, STEPHEN KENT] [6.6 - EP and MANEESH the TWISTER, PISTOL PETE, DR. WARE] [6.13 - DJs VINNIE and WASTEMASTER (Reggae/Dub - DJ DANCE)] The Cafe - house w/DJs Mathew Baker, Jay-R. 8pm-2am, 21+, Free. the Cafe, 2367 Market Street, SF . 415.861.3846 Liquid Sundays - Beetroot, quest djs. 21+. Liquid, 2925-16th St @ S.Van Ness, SF. Cosmic Hands - drum n bass, techno, house w/DJs chris haycock, Dereck Scott, de nada, rebekah, gagarin, chris jackson, nada, leath, tomas, jaz, hak, toby, paul leath. . This is a free party which happens on the first sunday of every month. Techno, tech-house and breaks on 9pm-2am, Free. Waves, 65 Post St, SJ. Monday Groove Lounge - spinning Raregrooves / Downtempo / Hiphop w/DJs JP, Spacekitty. 9pm-2am, . 3089 16th @ Valencia, SF. [6.7 - JP's Birthday] [6.14 - Dj Blsthus, D2] [6.21 -] Beat Hive - DJs Christopher Robin (Oakland), Evan (SF), special quests. This party takes place on the 2nd and 4th mondays of the month. 7pm-2am, $5. Free b4 10pm.. Kate O'Briens, 579 Howard, SF. [6.7 - Neil (House Blends Crew), Ron Isen (Bulletproof Boat Party)] Movin on Up - It's a vibratory thang w/DJs marc anthony, kevin, guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. The Top, 424 Haight, SF. Noc Noc - Drum'n'bass, downtempo and electronica w/DJ Mohsen. every other Monday. 9pm-2am, 21+, Free. 557 Haight St, SF. 415.861.5811 Density - Urban Beats saturated with Drum & Bass. w/DJs Residents:, DJ Al Simmons, Noel, JBoogie, special guests. Hosted by MC Angel. Cross Street: Hayes 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. The Justice League, 628 Divisadero, SF. 415.289.2038 Monday Mood Lounge - Happy Hour Downtempo to Drum and Bass w/DJs Triadessa, guests. 4pm-, 21+, Free. 406 Clement St, SF. HouseBlends - a special brew of house w/DJs a special brew of house w/DJs, Mes, Bloom, Tune, Neil, Abdul, Conrad, Friends (Weekly Rotation). Free before 10pm. Spend Happy Hour with HouseBlends (7pm-10pm). 10pm-2am, 21+, Free. the Top, 424 Haight, SF. http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Lounge/6072/ 925.988.7447 415.273.1308 Tuesday PHUNCKTION - Drum & Bass in motion w/DJs Residents: , Noel, JUJU, plus special guest TBA. Every tues. begining April 5th, 1999 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. THE TOP, 424 Haight St, SF. http://www.sfdb.com/ 415.789.8000 x1147 Pleasure - Residents, B.B. Hayes, Mark Silva, Matt Mau, plus weekly guest djs.. Real house music for real house heads...come into San Jose and get that SF feel. 9:30pm-2am, 21+. Free before 10:30...5 bills after.. Agenda Lounge, 399 South First Street, San Jose. Pure - house w/DJs Brian Brandon, guests. 9pm-, 18+. The Rage, 1890 Arden Way, Sacramento. 916.929.0232 Static - Techno, Drum & Bass, Downtempo, Electro, Experimental.... w/DJs Dj Sifu (Resident), Joe Rice (Justice League Sound System), Tomas (Umoja), J-Bird (Sunset/Pacific), Bre Ad, Sutekh, Re Ach, Quantum 23, Tomas, Sifu, J-Bird, Safety, Scissors, Sean Murray, guests. Static offers musical alternatives to listeners and dancers who are tired of pre-pubescent ravers, New Age missionaries and club culture, in general. Admission is $5 (21 and over, please). Come check out the two, newly fattened sound systems. 10pm-2am, $5. The Cat's Club, 1190 Folsom St, SF. http://www.belief-systems.com/static 510-496.3444 Spark - drum'n'bass, downtempo, jazzstep w/DJs Seven, Sol, Jason Greer , guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, $4. Backflip, 601 Eddy St @ Larkin, SF. 415.771.3547 [6.1 - Rue and Presha (Compound Records)] [6.8 - Marty (xlr8r) and Monkey (Tricorder)] [6.15 - PBS Crew + Laron (Frisky Records)] Spin Cycle - music of all types w/DJ guests weekly. 7:30p-midnight, All ages. CSUMB's Black Box Cabaret. http://www.cloudfactory.org/upcoming.html 831.457.7726 Tuesday nights at the Agenda - guest djs. upstairs at the agenda 21+. $5.00 after 10:30. 399 south first street, San Jose. Jive Samba - Josh Jones, Latin Jazz All Stars (Live), Chris (Electronic flavor with drum and bass), jazzy jungle. Come inside, cuddle up to a fire, a strong drink and a hapless passerby. Drink and dancing until two a.m. 21+, $5. Storyville, 1751 Fulton, SF. Core - drum & bass and beyond... w/DJs jefsta, cera, weekly guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, $2. Liquid, 2925 16th Street @ S. Van Ness, SF. http://hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~mkello01/core.html 415.790.4974 Wednesday Jungle Massive - Drum & bass on the Main Floor with resident dj's, Eva, Push, special guest Al Simmons (Density), In the loft is Central Services crew spinning big break beats and funky house with DJ's, Hemming, IQ, DJ Who. Enter on Jessie Street. 10pm-2am, 18+, $5. Big Heart City, 836 Mission, SF. SYNESTHESIA - Resident Djs, DUTCH, JEFF TAISCH. . - All welcome - 300 capacity - @ 19th St. One block from the 19th/Broadway BART station. 9pm-2am, All ages. $8/door-$5 w/can of food for The Floral Depot Project.. 1921 Telegraph Av., Oakland. 510.595.5555 415.339.8082 BassTrap - house, elctro, jungle, breaks - anya, cloud, swoops, thebasstrapallstars. Third wednesday of every month. Get the digs at BassTrap. 9pm-2am, 21+. http://www.3d-dynamic.com/basstrap/basstrap.html 707.524.9804 PURIFIDE - on the first wednesday of every month - tech house tekno progressive trance w/djs: w/DJs J-Bot, Gianni, M.A.C., Cloud, and guests. Purifide 9pm-2am, 21+. Anthony's, 53 Montgomery Drive, Santa Rosa. 707.571.8747 @mosphere - Fabulizz (Progress, Silky, Conscious Session), Seven (Spark, Hi-Rise), Jason Greer (Spark), Andre. Cross Street:Fillmore. We mix up downtempo, drum-n-bass and house. Finally, good music in the Marina! Yuppies and scenesters unite! 21+, $3. Hi-Fi Lounge, 2125 Lombard. Sol (Spark) DEEP INSIDE - A deep house excursion w/ residents DJs w/DJs Taj, Josh (the Gathering), w/ weekly special guests taking it even deeper.. Every Wednesday except the 1st Wednesday of the month. This party starts 04.14.99. 10pm-4:30am, 21+, $5. Deep Inside The Bassment of 1015 Folsom , 1015 Folsom St, SF. 415.281.0544 Return of the B-Sides - Resident D.J. Solomon, guest, Solomon. Hiphop, Funk, Soul, and Dance Hall every wednesday, spinning on three turntables. Weekly drinks specials. 21+. Shattuck Bar and Grill, 2086 Allston @ shattuck, Berkeley. 510.845.7300 Come Unity - House, Techno, Ambient w/DJs Simon, Jeno, Garth, and Cosmic Jason (every other month). first Wednesday of the month. 10pm-4am, 21+, $8. 1015 Folsom, SF. 415.241.8815 Audio Alchemy - jazz, hip hop, drum & bass, latin, futuristic beats w/DJs Groove Merchant DJs, Tom Thump, Cool Chris. 7pm-, 21+. Liquid, 2925 16th St @ So.Van Ness, SF. qoöl - a pan-techno lounge w/DJs Spesh, Gil, Hyper D, top notch guests. Visuals by Hyperdelic.qoöl is now in it's 3rd year of celebrating dj culture at happy hour. each wednesday we gather to hear no less than 4 djs pump nothing but the qoöl est techno. in 1999, we hope to bring you more of the same awesome vibe, more superskilled spinners, more visual artistry, and more great tasting beer! lastly, qoöl will remain free in 1999 - w/ qoöl card 5pm-9pm, Free. 111 Minna St, SF. http://www.looq.com/qool Audible Colors - house, jungle, techno w/DJ guests weekly. 21+, $3. the Top, 424 Haight St, SF. 415.522.2343 Seance - Its a spiritual thang w/DJs local guests weekly, DJs Martel, Nabiel, Franky. Tarot readers, belly dancers, henna tattoo artists and authentic egyptian tapestries. Séance is an ethereal alternative with belly dancers, Tarot Card Readers and Henna tattoo artists. For dinner reservations call 771-3547. 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. Backflip, 601 Eddy @ Polk, SF. http://sfstation.com/clubs/seance.htm 415.281.0823 Faith - house w/DJs jeff blax, guests. 9pm-2am, 21+, $3. Agenda Cellar, 17 San Salvador St, San Jose. Wednesdays at Club Ecco - house, techno, trance w/DJs Danny (Resident), Ellen Ferrato, David Harness, Blackstone, Pete Avila. Wednesday is a fantastic gay club night at Club Ecco. All the great house hits hits in the San Pedro Room. Door s open for Happy Hour @ 5pm. 5pm-, 21+, $5. No cover before 9:30. Club Ecco, 87 North San Pedro, San Jose. 408.947.1667 Dubphonik - Mr. Brown. Come inside, cuddle up to a fire, a strong drink and a hapless passerby. Drink and dancing until two a.m. $5. Storyville, 1751 Fulton, SF. Thursday The Usual - Julius Papp, Brian Kadmiri, Sam Ramirez, Nestor Balazar, Rated R, Guest DJ's. Club Usual, 400 S 1st St., San Jose. [6.3 - Backflip Wet Pool Parties, Kit Kat, Heavy Rotation and Housesepitals, Miguel "MIGS"] [6.10 - Release and Room 863, formerly known as... Eye Spy's, Behrouz] [6.17 - Club Universe, End Up Sunday's, and Yo Mamma's House, DAVID HARNESS] [6.24 - NYC Exclusive, NY Cities Reconstruction Records, Proprietor and Producer FRANKIE FELICIANO] 4-Play - Tek-House Thursday Nights w/DJs Residents:, Jasonian (Funky Tekno Tribe), Mikkel (Plush), Fabulizz (Progress). 9pm-2am , 21+, $5. Hi - Fi Lounge. 415.527.6677 GUANG! - Jimmy Chu, Cobie, Guest DJ appearances.. Dress code strictly enforced: No jeans, no tennis shoes, no sports attire. 21+. $8 at the door, $6 w/flyer or this email, Ladies in free b4 11:00. Club ERA, 525 Howard St., SF. 510.917.3030 the insight series - insight shows are about live electronic music that pushes the boundaries of the way we think about music w/DJs sean copper, eric hill. (*) EVERY THIRD THURSDAY of the month performances will start sometime shortly after 10pm. 9pm-, 21+. 111 minna st, SF. http://www.syncopated.net/emanate [6.17 - omco night: signaldrif, nudge, rehab] the Vanity party - BB Hayes (Resident) , guest djs:, Pete Avila, David Harness, ST John, Scott DC. Just off of highway 280. On the corner of Lawrence and Homestead. 9pm-2am, 21+. The BackBeat, 777 Lawrence Expressway, Santa Clara. 408.241.0177 Pitch - The underside of SF's techno/house music scene. Agressive, live musicians and dj's. w/DJs Crunch, YT, Dutch , Residents, Corey Black, Y.T., w/ special guests:, TUESday nites in March:, Freaky Chakra, Margorie & Stuart, DRC, big Nate, THURsday nites in April:, Cristina, Dutch, Ryme, Single Cell Orch., djCrunch.. ....Duck and weave.... Donation. CLUB SACRIFICE, 19th Street & South Van Ness, SF. Velvet Shop - house, jungle, hip hop, downtempo w/DJs M3, Mark Johns, guests. 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. Waves, SJ. 408.235.1556 408.235.1556 Kit Kat - house. 10pm-4am, 21+, $10. the End Up, 6th & Harrison, SF. The Cafe - house w/DJ Mathew Baker. 8pm-2am, 21+, Free. the Cafe, 2367 Market Street, SF. 415.861.3846 Passenger - excursions to global beats and rhythms 10p-2a, 21+, Free. the Skylark Lounge, 3089 16th St. @ Valencia, SF. Club Faith - Hip-Hop, House, Progressive. w/DJs Blackstone (Resident), Jay-R, Ruben Mancias (Resident), Weekly Guests. Boys/Girls, mostly bi/gay. If you have a closed mind this club will leave you behind! 9:30pm-3am, 18+, $10. Free with Flyer.. City Nights, 715 Harrison St., SF. [6.3 - DRC] [6.10 - Blackstone (a special 5 hour set)] Hi-Rise - The weekly thursday night house thing. w/DJs Seven (Resident), Sol (Resident), Peterbilt (Resident), Jin (Resident), Weekly Guests. Overloading your senses with deep underground house vibes at the coolest restaurant/bar in S.F. Free before 10pm. Dinners served until 10pm. Resurrecting the deep funk we call House. 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. Backflip, 601 Eddy, SF. 415.789.7377 [6.3 - Mark E. Quark (Primal Records), Hector Moralez (Primal Records), Marty (xlr8r)] [6.10 - closed for private party] [6.24 - Sunburn/Hardkiss Record Release Party for "Handy Man Maurice"] [6.24 - Goura (Urban Development) & Jamie Means] Atmospheric Drum & Bass - Peregrine. 8pm-11pm, . Brain Wash Cafe, 1122 Folsom St, SF. Eklektic - jungle, drum n bass w/DJ Sage (jungle/drum 'n' bass Resident). Live: Weekly guests from the Bay area + the World. 9pm-2am, 21+, $12. 78 Minna, SF. 415.332.5800 x787 Double Trouble - Romanowski , Special Guests. Live funk and hip hop. Abstract Jazz. Come inside, cuddle up to a fire, a strong drink and a hapless passerby. Drink and dancing until two a.m. $5. Storyville, 1751 Fulton St, SF. Silky...smoothe and sublime - Come listen to how the ladys lay down the funky beats w/DJs Tracy (Sister), FabuLizz (Progress), Girl Friday (Uniting Souls). Silky, the all female cast of the SF underground, will be held at Il Pirata on the third Thursday of every month. (between Potrero and Utah) Buses to party: 33 Stanyan 9 San Bruno. Email Art and decorations by: Bahar meets Angela. 9pm-2am, $3. Il Pirata, 2007 16th St, SF. 415.626.2626 [6.17 - Charlotte the Baroness (Sunburn Records)] The Circus - Hip-hop, Disco, Club Classics, House w/DJs Paolo Vincenti (Resident), Romero X Pinoza (Resident), Special Guests Weekly. Thursday night -this thursday, January 28th, is THE grand opening. 9:30pm-, 18+. $5 with a college ID. La Vals, 2516 Durant Ave, Berkeley. 510.595.5597 FriscoGlide - Deep House spun by: w/DJs Laron, John Pickett, Dani, Robbie Hardkiss. Steven Tune and the original dues rock "we got the beats" beats for all kinds for the premillinnial mind. $3. The Top, 424 Haight St, SF. Definition - Quality house music by the world's leading djs - house, techno w/DJs Markus (Resident / Kickdrum), JP (Resident / Kickdrum), Kamahele (Undertow Records). Inside Sacramento's Newest Club 'The Garage'. $5. Club 1831, 1831 19th Street, Sacramento. 916.484.4614 Techno Thursdays - house, techno w/DJs Dj Matt in the Hatt, Weekly Guests. Spinning house and techno every Thursday @ the Q Cafe. 9pm-. Q Cafe, 529 Alma, Palo Alto. 650.322.3311 _________________________________________________________________ Info Lines * Harmony Party Line - 408-486-9591 * Be-At Info Line - 415-626-4087. Usually has 5-10 listings, updated daily. * the Buzz-line, a global party network - 650.569.3300 * Clubline - 415.339.8686 * Frequency 8 Trance/Techno infoline - 415.541.5019 * The Groove Line - 415.331.1500 ext.4788 * Mixology-Music (north bay) - 707.526.1230 * Housewares Rave Line - 415.281.0125 * V.O.R.G. info - 415.750.3100 _________________________________________________________________ Radio/TV/Net Shows * Sunday-Sunday, 24 hours, 7 days a week, "Technostate" spins live with the dopest underground bay area dj's and work very hard at it! For more info see Technostate Website * Sunday 12noon - until we drop. "House Before The World". Live netcasts every Sunday at boyandhisdog.simplenet.com We broadcast deep house and garage for all who live and love it. :) Our resident Djs are bvdub and vincent kwok from San Francisco, and we feature guests as well. * Sunday, 2pm (((THUMP))) Radio presents Music for the New Millenium on 90.3fm KUSF. Global and local DJs/musicians playing trance, techno, DnB, house, and everything in between! Set-lists and interviews on http://www.thump-radio.com * Sunday Night at 8pm - "Threshold" on Raveworld.net, A audio show featuring world class drum 'n' bass and Jungle Djs. * Sunday night 11pm-2am - "The Dreaming/Innermind Show" w/DJ Miracle & Mr. Monchichi. House, Jungle, Trip-Hop, Ambient, Dub, Break-Beats & guest DJs. KSCU 103.3 (Santa Clara) * Sunday night midnight-1am - "Shortwave" - Electronic music in all of its guises. KALX, 90.7 FM (Berkeley) * Sunday night 10pm-2am - "Jazzadelica" w/ Rocky Rococo. Exploring the groove: from jazz, funk and soul to world beat and all types of underground clubs. KFJC 89.7 (Los Altos Hills) * Monday - Friday 10pm - 2am ''World House Groove'' on www.nwez.net -- a LIVE show dedicated to these sounds of the underground..... Dj Kjel is your host and dj for the show incorporating the music styles of house, acid jazz, trance, trip hop, drum & bass, ambient, and the collages of variations in between....... also, guest djs drop by to tunes and there's a live chatroom to talk w/ the djs themselves ........... Listen & watch World House Groove. * Monday night 9:30pm-midnight - "The Autobahn" w/dj Sutekh. Man and machine made music. KALX 90.7 (Berkeley) * Monday 12 til 4 - "Three*Sixty Radio". Beta Lounge. * Mondays at 11:00 PM PST - "Krom" on Raveworld.net Featuring World Class Djs like Dj Sneak and Doc Martin * Every Other Mon Nite, 10pm-Midnite: _*TeK-IndUced EuPHoriA*_ <<>> 90.3FM KDVS, Davis http://drxeno.cjb.net * Every Tuesday from 1 to 3pm - Trance, techno, breaks and jungle with "the underground with the secret asian man" - available on real audio @ ksfs.sfsu.edu Call ins, requests, and chances to win free gifts and passes to shows are always available, just stay tuned.... need more info? please email me at leopimp44@aol.com * Tuesday night 9pm-11:00pm - "Conscious Groove" - ambientdowntempojunglehousetrancedrumnbasstriphop spun by weekly guest DJs. Hosted by Stephanie aka Miss fat slice. Free Radio Berkeley on the internet - www.freeradio.org * Tuesday night 9pm-mid Pacific - "An Epiphany of Sound" hosted by J.C. The best in beats to satiate your inner child. Electronic dance, noise, spoken word, world music and more. Also available in RealAudio @ Epiphany of Sound Real Audio Also available: Humour List Archive Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of KZSU Radio or Stanford University. KZSU 90.1 (Stanford) * Wednesday 3am-6am - "Nothing Short of Total War" w/Fathertime. Electronic musik of all kinds, interspersed with spoken word poetry and other various readings. KSCU 101.3 (Santa Clara/San Jose) * radio M.U.T.A.N.T. - live experimental techno and dj's playing all styles of underground music. spaz * Wednesday night 9pm-11pm - free form music mix. KPFA 94.1 (Berkeley) * Wednesday night - "the Power of Sound" with Leslie. A 3 hour excursion into the best music from the regions where minds meet between the heavans and the earth. KAZU 90.3 (Monterey Bay Community Radio) * Thursday Mornings 12:30am - 3:00am (Wednesday nights) "The Metallic Blurp" - strictly drum and bass with nman and guests on KZSC, Santa Cruz 88.1FM * Thursday morning 5am-7am - A postmodern Garrison Keillor on crack, DJ Boomerang Fidget spins hilarious tales of backwoods meth labs, urban decay and redneck ravers; all with a social conscience. Also, ambient & techno. Free Radio Berkeley 104.1 (Berkeley) * Thursday Morning 6-9am - "GYNA" Resident Djs buttek and maytag in a live 3 hour mix format bringin the latest UK and stateside rekkids...Guest djs coming include DJ Poop (Sf) next week, also be on the lookout for spots by DJ SIFU, Hak, and Sipon. For requests, rewinds, or anything else, call (408) 554-5728 or email thegyna * "Back To Babylon" - House extravaganza with DJ Sneak and Doc Martin. see Raveworld.net * Thursday morning 10am-2pm - "The Further Adventures of Aardvark" - trip-hop to experimental to ambient to gabba etc, etc. KSJS 90.5 (San Jose). * Thursday 7pm-11pm - The Beta Lounge - Live on the net - electronic music and culture, worldwide. http://www.betalounge.com/ * Friday 12pm-4pm - weekly DJ netcasts. x-radio. * Friday 3pm-6pm - free form music mix. KUSF 90.3 (SF) (also available on Realaudio * Friday 9:30am-noon - Snappy the Aligator plays deep groove music that dips into cool electronic sounds, classic soul, reggae & more. KALX, 90.7 FM (Berkeley) * Fridays 8pm PST - Freak City on Raveworld.net the definitive show on dance cultures. Featuring artists like Paul Van Dyk, Jason Bentley, Air and best of 1998 (Carl Cox, Josh Wink, Moontribe, Spundae, Burning Man * Fridays 9pm-midnight - Andrew from Groove Merchant spins on KUSF 90.3 (SF) * Friday night/Saturday morning - midnight-noon. House/techno mix with Johnny K, Ozone & guests - KCSS 91.9 Central Valley (Turlock) * Friday night/Saturday morning - "Just Desserts" w/Mr.Goodwrench - 10pm-2am Jungle, Detroit, Techno, Acid House, whacked-out Dub, and noise KFJC 89.7 - Los Altos Hills * Friday night 1am-4am - "House Nation" w/"Anthems Mix", with residents and hosts david garcia, st john along with joey mazzola and dj doubt. David garcia and joey mazzola are resident djs at the SKYLOUNGE located at 525 harrison st. along with rotating djs bb hayes and demilo. 1am-4am, WILD 94.9 SF. * Friday night - Moondance. Ambient; 3am-7:30am, KUSF 90.3 SF. * Saturday morning - 12:30am-3am - "Under a Groove" with DJ CK featuring the deepest house grooves, downtempo cuts, and melodic drum and bass tunes. KZSC 88.1 FM, Santa Cruz. * Saturday afternoon - "Bus Stop" - music and talk w/guest DJs from SF and beyond. 2pm-3pm. KUSF 90.3 SF. * Saturday afternoon, 3-6pm - "The Living Dread" on kzsu stanford 90.1, hosted by Matt Duffy, kaydub of the jungle life crew, http://jungle-life.com * Saturday night 11pm - Flux Television, Viacom Channel 53 - Ambient, acid jazz and house music videos & interviews. (415) 281-3377. flux@flux.net * (every other) Saturday night 10p-12:30a - "1984" w/DJ Richtoffen. House, Trance and German rave. 90.1 (Chico) * Saturday night - "amp" 1am. MTV. * Saturday night - "Subsonic". 1am-6am, KITS 105.3 SF. * Saturday night - "House Nation" w/"Anthems Mix", Top 10s from guest DJs and "London Connection w/DJ Doubt". 2am-4am, WILD 94.9 SF. * Ambiance Magazine - 9:30p weds-sun PNC Cable 2 (Modesto & Oakdale), 9p fri & sat, marcus cable ch 9 (ceres & turlock). * Saturday night/Sunday morning - 10pm - 3am, Aaron Axelson, Live 105.3 _________________________________________________________________ For a search interface to the calendar, see the Late Train club section (http://www.latetrain.com/clubs/). _________________________________________________________________ Administrative Notes If anyone has info on any other events, send it to me! I can't possibly hope to get all the info every week. This info gets sent via email every Thursday. 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Karina Powers - karina@hyperreal.org From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 01:59:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2528 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 01:59:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 2506 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 01:59:23 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 01:59:23 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA26378; Fri, 28 May 1999 20:58:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca14-48.ix.netcom.com(209.110.227.112) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma026300; Fri May 28 20:57:54 1999 Message-Id: <4.1.19990528190158.00cc09a0@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: ascend@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 19:02:12 -0700 To: Jason Ozbourne From: Greg Sandler Subject: Re: Sol party, I'll be at the door.... Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 11:05 AM 5/27/99 -0700, you wrote: >The two things I find funny about what you are saying. > >1) When I first moved here and signed onto this list, >I thought that you were an intelligent, older, kinda >"rave Momma" style person. Now it seems that all you >do is promote for Harmony. Leslie is a great friend of mine. In fact when she had a lot of extra time she was a major part of the Harmony Crew. But now she has less time, but still makes it out to help out every once and a while... But because she likes the Harmony parties, she is not "an intelligent, older, kinda >"rave Momma" style person" anymore?!?!? What are you trying to say here? >2) Since I moved up here, the one party that I have >gone to twice that has had the most young high kids is >Harmony. Appearently you don't go out to the bigger raves much anymore. Lately for the larger underground parties Harmony has had the older crowd... (believe it or not ; ) Peace and love, Greg = ) > >I just find both of these things very ironic when >associated with the post you made below. > >l8, >J. > >--- leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: >> ok... in the 18-up discussions, i volunteered to be >> the "door id-checker" >> for the first promoter who would volunteer to do >> this... >> >> and has greg said in his post yesterday about sol on >> june 26th, harmony will >> be the first crew to voluntarily do an 18-up >> event.... and, hmmm, no >> surprise since i love working the harmony line >> whenever i can anyway... i >> will be there at the door... >> >> so, i'm looking forward to it, and while i know that >> there are going to be >> some who are very disappointed... but bear with us >> here, support the effort >> to help keep the scene alive and well for you >> all.... >> >> love, >> leslie >> >> >> >> >> Get your free, private email at >> http://mail.excite.com/ >> > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 01:59:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2956 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 01:59:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 2866 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 01:59:33 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 01:59:33 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA26437 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 20:58:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca14-48.ix.netcom.com(209.110.227.112) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma026354; Fri May 28 20:58:09 1999 Message-Id: <4.1.19990528190157.0092ecd0@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: ascend@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 19:02:29 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Greg Sandler Subject: DJ Greg Sandler @ Origin This Saturday! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone, I will be playing at Origin this weekend. Definatly try to check it out! Lots of great music to choose from (hella good djs!). (Gonna rock it!) Peace and love, Greg = ) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 02:02:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4538 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 02:02:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 4529 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 02:02:14 -0000 Received: from mail11.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.139) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 02:02:14 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca41-159.ix.netcom.com [209.111.208.159]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA02835 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 19:01:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <374F4B2B.8216B4F9@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 19:04:27 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: How Can U Tell... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk How can you tell Raver's have been to your home? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . They are still there!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 02:38:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17401 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 02:38:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 17390 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 02:38:25 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 02:38:25 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA25612; Fri, 28 May 1999 21:37:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca16-32.ix.netcom.com(209.110.227.224) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma025575; Fri May 28 21:36:57 1999 Message-Id: <4.1.19990528194058.00981b30@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: ascend@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 19:41:15 -0700 To: Jason Ozbourne From: Greg Sandler Subject: Re: Sol party, I'll be at the door.... Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 11:05 AM 5/27/99 -0700, you wrote: >The two things I find funny about what you are saying. > >1) When I first moved here and signed onto this list, >I thought that you were an intelligent, older, kinda >"rave Momma" style person. Now it seems that all you >do is promote for Harmony. Leslie is a great friend of mine. In fact when she had a lot of extra time she was a major part of the Harmony Crew. But now she has less time, but still makes it out to help out every once and a while... But because she likes the Harmony parties, she is not "an intelligent, older, kinda >"rave Momma" style person" anymore?!?!? What are you trying to say here? >2) Since I moved up here, the one party that I have >gone to twice that has had the most young high kids is >Harmony. Appearently you don't go out to the bigger raves much anymore. Lately for the larger underground parties Harmony has had the older crowd... (believe it or not ; ) Peace and love, Greg = ) > >I just find both of these things very ironic when >associated with the post you made below. > >l8, >J. > >--- leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: >> ok... in the 18-up discussions, i volunteered to be >> the "door id-checker" >> for the first promoter who would volunteer to do >> this... >> >> and has greg said in his post yesterday about sol on >> june 26th, harmony will >> be the first crew to voluntarily do an 18-up >> event.... and, hmmm, no >> surprise since i love working the harmony line >> whenever i can anyway... i >> will be there at the door... >> >> so, i'm looking forward to it, and while i know that >> there are going to be >> some who are very disappointed... but bear with us >> here, support the effort >> to help keep the scene alive and well for you >> all.... >> >> love, >> leslie >> >> >> >> >> Get your free, private email at >> http://mail.excite.com/ >> > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 02:39:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18535 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 02:39:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 18525 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 02:39:47 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 02:39:47 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA25760 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 21:39:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca16-32.ix.netcom.com(209.110.227.224) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma025741; Fri May 28 21:38:50 1999 Message-Id: <4.1.19990528194056.0096d900@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: ascend@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 19:43:09 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Greg Sandler Subject: DJ Greg Sandler @ Origin This Saturday! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone, I will be playing at Origin this weekend. Definatly try to check it out! Lots of great music to choose from (hella good djs!). (Gonna rock it!) Peace and love, Greg = ) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 03:23:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3605 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 03:23:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 3580 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 03:23:24 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 03:23:24 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (7999) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vYYIa02589 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 23:22:48 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <2d47d93c.2480b788@aol.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 23:22:48 EDT Subject: Re: BSP: heart beats 5.30.99 Day Party To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk just to let everyone know, my friend just talked to thomas and he said this party got canceled. : ( well i know I'M disappointed!!! oh well, guess that means i'll be even more hyped for man in the moon! hope to see all of you there!! are we gonna have a meeting spot? or is it the usual 1:00 at the water bar? Alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 04:02:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12227 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 04:02:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 12219 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 04:02:43 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 04:02:43 -0000 Received: from Kandehata@aol.com (3937) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vRFUa02743 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 00:01:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Kandehata@aol.com Message-ID: <8d05a7ee.2480c0ab@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 00:01:47 EDT Subject: RIDE TO LA NEEDED!*PLEZ* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok mah fren is suppose to be in LA this week...and her ride is too LA is sick and she is stranded up here....i was wondering if ANYONE will be heading to LA this weekend er week coming up....if so will ug et back to me privately.....thanks a bunch!!! A From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 04:07:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13320 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 04:07:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 13312 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 04:07:49 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?TLOUQO4JL3FyUgkJtt3qOtmWBQdGxCIn?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 04:07:49 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id VAA29610; Fri, 28 May 1999 21:07:48 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 21:07:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com Subject: it's Friday, you ain't got shit to do. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Listen, criss. 1015 Folsom's Bassment is going to be to ognarly to miss. DJ Push from Future Breaks FM. DJ Rinse, from Compound Records and the B.A.S.S. Kru TeeBee from Certificate 18, Juice, Moving Shadow, etc. etc. Bergen Norway. This is going to be mental. The new Tech Itch dub might get the third rewind tonight. =) 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 05:47:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11279 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 05:47:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 11164 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 05:47:28 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 05:47:28 -0000 Received: from Brentano77@aol.com (8035) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vTDEa02744 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 01:46:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Brentano77@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 01:46:53 EDT Subject: Re: Fuck the riddles To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i think the riddles are cool and they are more fun to read then like half the retarded shit all the other people are sending, even if they are "Not Rave Related." people wouldn't respond to them if they didn't like playing along, and they clearly say RIDDLE under the subject so if you don't wanna read em then delete them, it's not TOTALLY necessary to specify that they have no relation to the rave stuff. maybe yall are just complaining cuz you can't figure them out..... ~bReNtaNo From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 05:47:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11748 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 05:47:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 11637 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 05:47:38 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 05:47:38 -0000 Received: from IISPlNlI@aol.com (7998) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vZQPa26942 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 01:47:04 -0400 (EDT) From: IISPlNlI@aol.com Message-ID: <86bfe81.2480d958@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 01:47:04 EDT Subject: Riddle time Sat {nrr} To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok here is one Twelve white ponies, On a red hill, Always moving, but standing still. What are we? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 05:51:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13334 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 05:51:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 13326 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 05:51:36 -0000 Received: from web1004.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.94) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 05:51:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990529055135.22414.rocketmail@web1004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.173.239.39] by web1004.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 28 May 1999 22:51:35 PDT Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 22:51:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Brandon Trumble Subject: Venue Shopping? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Is anybody looking for a good venue? There is an abandoned grocery store here in East San Jose. I would estimate it would comfortably hold about 500-600 people it has 2 rooms the main shopping floor, the back warehouse storage room and you could even use the bakery for an ambient chill spot! it has a loading dock in the back for an out door area. PLENTY OF PARKING! and OMG its next door to Nations Giant!(perfect morning raver grub!)Plus the guy that owns it is tearing it down for condos in 2000 so he could care less if you trash it. Hes never rented it out before and i bet if you waved a grand or 2 in his face FOR 1 NIGHT! he'd sh*t his pants! Email me privately for contact info. Peace Brandon From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 06:16:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19582 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 06:16:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 19574 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 06:16:47 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 06:16:47 -0000 Received: from IISPlNlI@aol.com (7998) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHYDa27309; Sat, 29 May 1999 02:16:14 -0400 (EDT) From: IISPlNlI@aol.com Message-ID: <1cac8706.2480e02e@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 02:16:14 EDT Subject: Re: Fuck the riddles To: Brentano77@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i totally agree with ya buddy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 06:17:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20317 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 06:17:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 20303 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 06:17:26 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 06:17:26 -0000 Received: from IISPlNlI@aol.com (7998) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHMa005855 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 02:16:43 -0400 (EDT) From: IISPlNlI@aol.com Message-ID: <2fbf27c4.2480e04b@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 02:16:43 EDT Subject: One Liner {nrr} To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Q: What's the difference between oral sex & anal sex? A: Oral sex makes your day, anal sex makes your hole weak! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 06:19:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21169 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 06:19:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 21134 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 06:19:04 -0000 Received: from web203.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.103) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 06:19:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19990529061523.9977.rocketmail@web203.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.72.3.204] by web203.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 28 May 1999 23:15:23 PDT Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 23:15:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Jean-Baptiste Laplace Subject: Renegade info/VM PLEASEEEEEEE To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey, Oh ! I'm trying to get info/VM for the Renegade party. Anyone? I tried the VM that was posted on that mailing list but it doesn't seem to be the good phone number. Help me out !!! Thanks. JB From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 06:20:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21926 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 06:20:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 21900 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 06:20:15 -0000 Received: from mailgate.cadence.com (158.140.2.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 06:20:15 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.cadence.com (8.8.5/8.6.8) id XAA09449 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 23:20:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.Cadence.COM(158.140.128.33) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (mjr-v1.2) id xma927958813.009447; Fri, 28 May 99 23:20:13 -0700 Received: from urbanassault.org (sj6-lras44-d158140044190 [158.140.44.190]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA17935 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 23:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <374F884A.C73E846E@urbanassault.org> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 23:25:15 -0700 From: Siphon Reply-To: siphon@urbanassault.org Organization: Urban Assault X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: eklektic rocks the bells References: <19990528100603.93989.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Damn straight. Eklektic was going off. Heads we're jumping and the floor was flexing. Big ups to DMarie and Miss E for hosting a tight weekly. Respects, -- S i p h o n urban_assault[99] info:408.882.5064 http://www.geocities.com/~urban_assault dj _haK wrote: > this has to be the best jungle/hip.trip.hop joint on the west coast. saw > tee-bee tonite rewind abtract's new track. tee-bee rewinding tech itch > 'rebirth' x3. > then downstairs hearing the bassbin twins w/uberzone w/krs and mad peeps > going off! > seriously, most people drool of having a joint like this by them > (metalheadz=london), and we do! > > damn, freesh, fat, deep, subbase all nite long, > > hak From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 06:31:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24765 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 06:31:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 24756 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 06:31:40 -0000 Received: from web1002.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.92) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 06:31:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19990529063139.12078.rocketmail@web1002.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.173.239.39] by web1002.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 28 May 1999 23:31:39 PDT Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 23:31:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Brandon Trumble Subject: QUEST W/O JENO IS NO QUEST! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I just got off checking the rave calendar and I noticed that the september Quest already had DJs booked and lined up and guess what? NO JENO :( and that sucks cuz hes my favorite DJ and the first time i heard him spin was at Quest. Jeno has been there since Quest 1. ERIC IF YOU ARE READING THIS BOOK HIM PLEEZ! BRANDON From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 06:35:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26707 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 06:35:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 26696 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 06:35:03 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 06:35:03 -0000 Received: from Anachra@aol.com (14382) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vOGHa21338 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 02:34:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Anachra@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 02:34:30 EDT Subject: NRR:Re: Riddle time Sat {nrr} To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk carousel horses From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 07:25:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6859 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 07:25:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 6851 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 07:25:04 -0000 Received: from web206.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.106) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 07:25:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19990529072716.25281.rocketmail@web206.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.157.114.91] by web206.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 29 May 1999 00:27:16 PDT Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 00:27:16 -0700 (PDT) From: tHe AcCoMplICe Subject: BSP: WWW.RESOURCERECORDS.COM To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey peeps... Check out my site!! It's about 90% right now, but still pretty fuckin' dope! Its a Flash site. You can read about me or other artists on the label. You can also listen to my whole audio catalogue. Take a peek and let me know what all of you think... www.resourcerecords.com Technically, chris jackson From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 07:59:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14697 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 07:59:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 14677 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 07:59:26 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 07:59:26 -0000 Received: from BBoiBreks@aol.com (363) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 7ULOa08612; Sat, 29 May 1999 03:58:54 -0400 (EDT) From: BBoiBreks@aol.com Message-ID: <343fdb4c.2480f83d@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 03:58:53 EDT Subject: Re: How Can U Tell... To: goodvibe@geocities.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You can tell when a raver has been to your home when they leave all the hair that they've shaved off their various bodyparts clogged in the bath tub drain, when they leave their tore up candy bracelets on the floor waiting for unsuspecting parents to slip on, when there is that certian "jenesaisquoi" in the air and in the sofa like sweet aromatic mixture of vomit/smoke/sex/scum/ and that fresh raver scent. Oh yeah, who in their right fucking minds would actually let a raver know where they live? Are you fucking kidding me? Why do you think I moved to begin with? Once you invite a raver home for the first time, they think they're your fucking new roommate. Nasty assed ravers. I'm not a raver I'm a poser bboibreks From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 09:21:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25956 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 09:21:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 25928 invoked by uid 233); 29 May 1999 09:21:23 -0000 Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 02:21:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Lara To: Brentano77@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR PEOPLE! Re: Fuck the riddles In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Brentano, with all due respect, this list IS a rave-related forum -- while riddles may be entertaining to a few, for the majority of us, it's just a waste of bandwidth. When you first join SFRaves, you are sent a "Welcome to SFRaves" e-mail which you are supposed to read, and it includes the fact that out of common courtesy and respect for those who use filters, non-rave-related posts are usually tagged with a tag. Riddles are NOT rave-related, therefore, out of common respect for others, they should be tagged NRR. Now it's not that hard people, and I've been a bitch about this before so I'm not hesitating now either. It's COMMON RESPECT, which is something I personally believe in 100% and won't back down upon. There are people who only want to discuss and read about raves on this mailing list -- that's the purpose of this list, initially. If you would like to receive multiple riddles and/or read the same answer to a riddle 5 times in one day, perhaps you, and all those who don't think RIDDLES should have a NRR tag on them should join/start up a riddle list. It seems there is an interest enough on this list, but not a large enough interest for all 570+ of us to really want to have to sift through (again, with all due respect). i'm sorry to sound harsh or rude regarding this subject, butr I don't even see how these riddles even pertain to this list? I do enjoy a good NRR post or forward now and then, but things are getting almost ridiculous... I could say more, and it's not just the riddles that are seeming to get out of hand (or is it just me??), and I'm going to say something about this someday soon when I have more time... but out of SHEER COURTESY and common respect for others, this riddle thread SHOULD be NRR. If it gets any worse, I may have to start moderating a little heavier... Maybe this wouldn't be so bad if the riddles came once in awhile, but the past few days have been totally out of hand and to a point annoying for me at least, if not many others, and at least the decency to throw a NRR tag onto it would be sort of.... nice :) With much love and respect for the masses, Lara p.s. everyone be safe this weekend. p.p.s. i have alot more to say! but after enjoying this weekend ;) ---- "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." -- Oscar Wilde On Sat, 29 May 1999 Brentano77@aol.com wrote: > i think the riddles are cool and they are more fun to read then like half the > retarded shit all the other people are sending, even if they are "Not Rave > Related." people wouldn't respond to them if they didn't like playing along, > and they clearly say RIDDLE under the subject so if you don't wanna read em > then delete them, it's not TOTALLY necessary to specify that they have no > relation to the rave stuff. maybe yall are just complaining cuz you can't > figure them out..... > > ~bReNtaNo > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 13:14:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13889 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 13:14:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 13879 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 13:14:48 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 13:14:48 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (14457) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rOMAa02742; Sat, 29 May 1999 09:13:27 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 09:13:27 EDT Subject: Re: Venue Shopping? To: pacific_united_ravers@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Brandon, it will never ever happen in SJ trust me. The cops would have that place shut down before you even got your flyers printed. Good luck if you try though. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 13:30:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16888 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 13:30:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 16880 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 13:30:55 -0000 Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (206.253.129.186) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 13:30:55 -0000 Received: from canuck (dynamic50.pm01.mv.best.com [209.24.240.50]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id JAA29057; Sat, 29 May 1999 09:33:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002801bea9d7$3f111720$32f018d1@canuck> From: "ry-N" To: Subject: review of gay day at great america Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 06:29:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01BEA99C.92B23F20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BEA99C.92B23F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable all I can say is that I think they scheduled GAY day and UGLY day at = great america on the same night. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BEA99C.92B23F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
all I can say is that I think they = scheduled GAY=20 day and UGLY day at great america on the same night.
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BEA99C.92B23F20-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 14:27:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25050 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 14:27:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 25041 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 14:27:35 -0000 Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (209.185.123.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 14:27:35 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by hotbot.com; Sat May 29 07:26:59 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, JUNGurlE@aol.com Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 07:26:59 -0700 From: "da'Wolf" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: this bloody age crap! X-Sender-Ip: 206.40.43.191 Organization: HotBot Mail (http://mail.hotbot.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey Amber--JUNGgrlE, This be da'Wolf (Tranceboy)and of all the postings in the past month, no year, yours is the one that has meant the most to me... See, I'm a thirtysomething (ok, 32 almost 33) raver who has enjoyed the scene for almost 10 years...that door that closes is exactly what I'm stressing on these days...It seems like I want to go to everything every weekend and I of course cant...The reason you want to go back to irresponsibility is because that was your reality at one time and damn if we didnt enjoy that time of our life better than any other part we can imagine...I remember going to clubs friday, saturday AND sunday AND a couple during the week...the funny thing was I didnt go to scam on girls but to listen to the beautiful music and the dreamlike state they put me in...the older I get the more I want to return to that unreality and the pleasure I got from beautiful dancers and amazing artists (djs) all around me...BUT the reality these days is rent is due on the first and school (all 6 years of it) has taught me very little about becoming a better person (it told me how to pay bills, ugh) but it did teach me the cold hard facts are I'm not a kid anymore and even if you dont like it you become a cog in the system...fuck that, I still want to hang with good friends and I want to make a difference in the world, what that entails I dont know...I do understand the Door#2 your talking about and boy is it the hardest door to move through...I just cant wait to move on to the next day and on to the next challenge! Well you get the picture...life does move on...If there is anything I want to tell you and all the other ravers out there its--Please be careful and take care of yourself...you'll figure it out! So kids (and you know who you are) if you hear or see someone acting OLDER, dont bag on them, learn from their wisdom...heck if they are at a rave they must be on your side, right?! Peace da'Wolf -- On Tue, 25 May 1999 15:04:52 JUNGurlE wrote: >okay it does sound a bit like attacking ALL the kids (under 18) but hey we >all have to wait for certain amenities in life.. (i.e. a drivers liscense, >clubs, alcohol, gambling, etc...) its to protect you, and you will only >trully understand that once you have crossed the threshold from child to >adult! and no I don't mean losing the inner child.. but there are some cold >hard facts about life, that aren't fully understood untill your put in the >situation to understand them. being responsible doesn't always make up for >life experience. I wish i could go back (don't ask me why, but i do) and >just be free from worries and stress and total responsibilaty, and just hang >out with my friends, but that door in my life has closed and whats behind >door #2 is just awesome! wait till you get here to see it! , but for right >now enjoy what you have, because time is cruel and slips by to fast. > >please just enjoy living in the present and be thankfull for all that you >dooo have. ><3 amber r > HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 16:09:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14917 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 16:09:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 14907 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 16:09:21 -0000 Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (209.185.123.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 16:09:21 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by hotbot.com; Sat May 29 09:08:44 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, "Macadio G." Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 09:08:44 -0700 From: "da'Wolf" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: CD review (Eric Spire Transitions) X-Sender-Ip: 206.40.43.192 Organization: HotBot Mail (http://mail.hotbot.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I totally agree, this shiiaat is the bomb!!! But wouldnt you call it the TipTop of Trance? I actually have the disc sitting on the top of my cd case right this second, having just listened to it (for the 400th time) day before yesterday...believe it or not I listen to it to go to sleep...Eric is surely one of the top DJs/promoters on the scene and his disc shows the professionality and dynamics that only he can provide...ok so I'm a little bias, he supplied the sound for a couple of my parties AND of course he spun at them too! Hey Macadio, I still havent seen you spin...when would be the next time I can catch you...I'm getting old (just kidding) so I need to make plans weeks in advance... Peace da'Wolf (just lil old Kurt from Five Families) -- On Fri, 21 May 1999 09:17:44 Macadio G. wrote: >Well I had the pleasure of picking up Eric Spires Demo CD and it is >downright good stuff. It is kind of hard to explain house it is not to fast >and "Go Off" and not too slow and chill. It is like right in the middle and >keeps you stuck. I guess the right words would be very tracky housetrancy. >Some old stuff some new stuff. A lot of records with the kind of stuff I >have been buying lately real moody house. He even drops a old slip and slide >record "Were all in the same family" I thought I was one of the only peeps >that still had that record!! Worth getting if you like >Trackytrancyfunkyshakeyourasswakeuptheneighborhoodhouse. And it was on 3 >decks to boot!! that is some hard shit yo!! > >see ya, >Macadio > > > HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 16:51:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26195 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 16:51:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 26187 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 16:51:05 -0000 Received: from web1006.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.96) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 16:51:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990529165105.24549.rocketmail@web1006.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.173.239.39] by web1006.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 29 May 1999 09:51:05 PDT Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 09:51:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Brandon Trumble Subject: Re: Venue Shopping? To: BigM009@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Im not to sure about that because the rotation crew threw evolved thought down here last november and it was never shut down and I have been to other all nighters down here. Maybe a map point would be in order. Throw a day party there and block out the windows. Im just saying that this place isnt a highly patrolled place... Basically because its nothing! its an abandoned grocery store... hell the whole plaza is almost abandoned! Brandon --- BigM009@aol.com wrote: > Brandon, it will never ever happen in SJ trust me. > The cops would have that > place shut down before you even got your flyers > printed. Good luck if you > try though. Peace, M > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 17:37:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4525 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 17:37:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 4496 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 17:36:59 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 17:36:59 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (8025) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3CRVa03096 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 13:36:03 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <2ceab904.24817f83@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 13:36:03 EDT Subject: Mad Love today.... To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk * The Sun is Up.. the Sky is blue... It's beautiful.... and so are you * Just kidding.. it looks pretty grey and cold out.... *HOWEVER* I'm still heading out for the Mad Love Daytime party to shrug off this 24-hour stomach flu I caught and dance for a bit. Hopefully some of you will make it =) And who knows where I'll be after that??????? hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva "you are my sunshine... on a cloudy day.. you give me love and laughter.. when skies are grey......" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 17:50:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7066 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 17:50:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 7058 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 17:50:13 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.13) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 17:50:13 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA05814 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 12:49:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca36-65.ix.netcom.com(207.92.172.65) by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma005808; Sat May 29 12:49:16 1999 Message-ID: <37502879.A299A49F@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 10:48:41 -0700 From: Ray Vonie Organization: Feel Good Entertainment X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Subject: bsp: Production for Tonights Metropolis Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I Don't usually make BSP's for other promoters, but I Am VERY overwhelmed with the amount of production that this group has shoved into the Base. The lighting and sound systems that got set up last night are FAR and Beyond anything ever done at any party at Home Base!!! These guys have spent more money on Just the Lumateck lighting gear, Lasers and Sound than it costs to throw 2 entire parties at 2nd and Jax. Im not kidding either. There is some serious lighting and sound in there. And It takes A LOT to impress me nowadays with so many promoters just doing the same crap over and over again and not spending shit on their decorations or productions. Im just very impressed on how much this group has put into the production of this party with so much sound, visuals, lasers and lighting... and all the fantastic dj's that they have brought in ... it's definitely something you may want to check out. Any way's, I just thought I would fill you all in on how impressed I am with how much they put in to make such an incredible party of this caliber. It's definitely out of the ordinary. I think other promoters should take some tips from the setup of this party, on what it means to give back to the people that come out to support you. This party is well worth the admission price. Maybe I'll see some of you tonight. Keep it mellow, Vlad From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 18:44:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17609 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 18:44:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 17601 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 18:44:21 -0000 Received: from pantheon-po03.its.yale.edu (130.132.143.34) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 18:44:21 -0000 Received: from mercury.cis.yale.edu (sbl23@mercury.cis.yale.edu [130.132.143.247]) by pantheon-po03.its.yale.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01546; Sat, 29 May 1999 14:44:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (sbl23@localhost) by mercury.cis.yale.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA11439; Sat, 29 May 1999 14:44:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mercury.cis.yale.edu: sbl23 owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 14:44:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Samuel Luckenbill X-Sender: sbl23@mercury.cis.yale.edu To: Lesley Mortell cc: Robert Delarosa , talk@warmth.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: London scene? In-Reply-To: <374EDAC3.2E87B857@sco.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Section 5 for drum and bass and tech step. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 19:44:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2740 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 19:44:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 2731 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 19:44:47 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 19:44:47 -0000 Received: from KaNdeEKlD@aol.com (8080) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vMNBa26942 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 15:43:28 -0400 (EDT) From: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 15:43:28 EDT Subject: Re: Riddle time Sat {nrr} To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Twelve white ponies From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 21:02:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18930 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 21:02:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 18921 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 21:02:21 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 21:02:21 -0000 From: "Michael, The Red Stickman" Subject: treestock? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, stargaze@signal11.com, talk@warmth.org Cc: mod79@well.com X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.2.9b5 Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 14:04:15 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk . hi, if there's anyone out there who was involved with the production aspect of the "treestock" party, could you email me privately, please? thanks, I appreciate it! michael o)-< the red stickman From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 22:14:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4675 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 22:14:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 4666 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 22:14:28 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 22:14:28 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (580) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vEWMa02691 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 18:13:50 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <37e9dcf4.2481c09e@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 18:13:50 EDT Subject: Fridays's Riddle and Answer {nrr} To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Born Motherless and Fatherless, Into this world without a sin Made a load roar as I entered And never spoke again. Answer:Thunder From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 22:23:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7507 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 22:23:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 7499 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 22:23:54 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 22:23:54 -0000 Received: from Kandehata@aol.com (230) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rATKa01450; Sat, 29 May 1999 18:22:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Kandehata@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 18:21:55 EDT Subject: Re: review of gay day at great america To: binary_fineboy@iname.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 5/29/99 6:31:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time, binary_fineboy@iname.com writes: << all I can say is that I think they scheduled GAY day and UGLY day at great america on the same night. >> Ryan....the u MUST have fit right in.....RIGHT? A From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 22:31:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9898 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 22:31:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 9889 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 22:31:50 -0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 22:31:50 -0000 Received: from [206.169.228.66] (haiti-66.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.228.66]) by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA26162 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 15:31:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: echo@mail.wenet.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:32:28 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: je Subject: BSP: Who is Rowland the... Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk MAZE: Friday June 18 Who is Rowland the Bastard? ...An English "nutter" who wreaks havoc on the turntables, plays wicked acid techno and runs his own label, Bionic Orange. "...Out of a whole group of labels emerged Bionic Orange. This one-man operation continues to set itself apart from the crowd with tunes like Tarball & Lungbutter's 'Sonic Eruptor'. It's doing the damage every time I hear Rowland the Bastard play it out. More noises appear every time I hear its exquisite acid techno soundscape build up around me. By all means listen to it in your headphones Š but if your life depends on it, make sure you hear it on a big rig in the middle of a heaving nightclub and watch the walls come tumbling down..." (Jon the Dentist review in xlr8r magazine of a track on Rowland the Bastard's Bionic Orange label) Rowland the Bastard Friday, June 18 MAZE 550 Barneveld 415.263.6750 Acid techno acid techno watch the walls come tumbling downŠ MAZE: TRIBAL TECHNO TRANCE life is a maze / it is amazing 415.263.6750 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 22:40:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12059 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 22:40:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 12048 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 22:40:42 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 22:40:42 -0000 Received: from SaMiENiTTy@aol.com (14431) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vGQJa01068 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 18:39:57 -0400 (EDT) From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Message-ID: <5cd22449.2481c6bc@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 18:39:56 EDT Subject: Knowledge: Classical....electronica???(Random Thoughts....) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Warning...*this probably won't make any sense, so bear with me*. Recently the news have been broadcasting clips on how listening to classical music when you are infant, and throughout your years, increases your understanding of higher math conecepts. Well, I was thinking if the same concept applies to electronica or any music as such. After all, classical music and electronica are just types of music composed by different instruments by different people, and many sonds have no words. I'm not saying that you need to have a full production group up on stage, just that it took a whole production group to make your album/track. As it took a production group to produce any classical song. We use different instruments in each music. Keyboards and computer are used to master and produce many sounds in electronica. Keyboards and computers are also able to be programed to make various sounds ranging from lion roars to wind gusts. As with instruments used in classical music, only one sounds can come from one instrument. Electronica and classical music are higher states of music. They both are composed, we enjoy their' sounds, and both may very well move us deeply. Taking your mind and conscience to a higher level is the key to really understanding the beauty of music. Music without words is the most beautiful thing. You can make what you want out of it and take in what you want. Classical and electronica are basically the same, just different in a few concepts. Maybe we are a whole lot smarter since we listen to it. Or maybe we've taken our whole conscience to a higher, permanent state. ~Samantha *knowledge is the greatest power* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 22:52:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16364 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 22:52:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 16344 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 22:52:36 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 22:52:36 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EBTR9PNP; Sat, 29 May 1999 18:51:18 EDT To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 15:55:55 -0700 Subject: paging smiley Message-ID: <19990529.155557.-23487.1.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-3 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey if anyone has smiley's # please either email me at dadope@ix.netcom.com or page it to me (408) 229-5992. Peace, Theresa or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 22:52:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16357 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 22:52:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 16340 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 22:52:35 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 22:52:35 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EBTR9PMF; Sat, 29 May 1999 18:51:18 EDT To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 15:54:44 -0700 Subject: dadope's new email Message-ID: <19990529.155557.-23487.0.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk My new address is dadope@ix.netcom.com. Peace, Theresa or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 22:57:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18963 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 22:57:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 18952 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 22:57:22 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 22:57:22 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com (3949) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHQPa26412; Sat, 29 May 1999 18:56:38 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 18:56:37 EDT Subject: Re: trance sux, house rox To: BryanLee21@aol.com, BigM009@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.5 for Windows Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i would never waist my time in a studio to make a friggin trance track.... i rather bathe a duck than make that music. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 23:02:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21768 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 23:02:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 21760 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 23:02:41 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 23:02:41 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com (3949) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vBAZa29329; Sat, 29 May 1999 19:01:25 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: <53097a94.2481cbc5@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 19:01:25 EDT Subject: Re: trance sux, house rox (BLAH BLAH) To: erave@xoommail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.5 for Windows Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk house is anti-plur? that's what i find annoying about the rave scene all the little bright kids screaming love and peace and fooling themselves and having to face reality sometime in there live, peace, love, unity huh? blah ralph From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 23:16:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25331 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 23:16:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 25316 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 23:16:46 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 23:16:46 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com (3949) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id cBSFa05854; Sat, 29 May 1999 19:13:49 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: <98b82c0b.2481cead@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 19:13:49 EDT Subject: Re: funky house/hardhouse/hardbag?? To: mcarey@triad.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.5 for Windows Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk houseblend4 by trajic and work, any underground construction ( UC ) cd, their shit is not sf flavor but bangs at 140 bpms, uc hardhouse deserves alot more respect! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 23:23:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27137 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 23:23:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 27129 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 23:23:14 -0000 Received: from f55.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 23:23:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 67227 invoked by uid 0); 29 May 1999 23:22:47 -0000 Message-ID: <19990529232247.67226.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.152.187.210 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 29 May 1999 16:22:46 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.152.187.210] From: "Toshi Musha" To: becky17f@hotmail.com, Jason.LEE@adecco.com, kehgray@hotmail.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 12 hour sets Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 16:22:46 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk pro'bly put a really long track... :) and you gotta kick all the ppl on the bathroom line too... :) toshi >From: "becky thorton" >To: Jason.LEE@adecco.com, kehgray@hotmail.com >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: 12 hour sets >Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:46:00 PDT > >When do you goto the bathroom?!?! ;) > >love n plur >becky > >From: Jason.LEE@adecco.com >To: "K Gray" >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: 12 hour sets >Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:11:12 -0700 > > > >I've done a 12+ hour set befor in Florida, probably the best set I've ever done. >It was indeed alot of work, but then again when you love the music and you love >what your doing, the time is of no essence. I liked doing that long of a set >becuase I could take it where ever I wanted, I could play all the music that I >wanted to play, and I could really really project the journey through music that >I've allways wanted to project..... the people loved it... and stayed till the >bitter end.... it was truley a memorable moment, but the issue was started on >the basis of how much a popular dj got paid, let me tell you that the 12 hour >set I did was for free.... the tables were my own, and everything I contributed >then was of me...... and I can honestly say I got so much satisfaction from >that then I would probably have gotten from any amount of money, now don't get >me wrong I would not turn down the money, but the money would deffinately not be >the reason to do such an endeavor again.... and again.... and again..... so to >add to this thread as well as another thread stating whether or not being a top >dj is of any importance, well I think it all boils down to one thing...... the >reason you are djing..... the fame or the money..... I dunno, for me famous or >not rich or not..... I love the music, and I love the hobbie, and I love the >art.... and I do what I love...... period. > >Jason > > > > > > >At 4:42 PM -0400 5/27/99, DjShUbErT@aol.com wrote: > > >I dunno if anyone else heard this but Junior Vasquez was payed ( I read > >in > > >Mimag ) $100,000 for a full on 12 hour set at a club in the UK ..now > >that's > > >overpayed !!!! > >TWELVE HOUR SET? He stood in one place, spinning records, matching beats, >mixing tunes for TWELVE HOURS? I have seen Doc Martin do a 6-hour set and it >looked like work. I can't imagine what a 12-hour set would take out of you. > >The Rolling Stones only play for an hour and a half. > >Anyone here spin a 12-hour set? > >K > > > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 23:28:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 887 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 23:28:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 801 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 23:28:37 -0000 Received: from web1001.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.91) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 23:28:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990529232731.565.rocketmail@web1001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.173.239.39] by web1001.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 29 May 1999 16:27:31 PDT Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 16:27:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Brandon Trumble Subject: :)Hardcore, Hardcore and Goa! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I love all types of music but i think that hardcore, happy hardcore and goa trance are the dopest...nobody hate, thats just my opinion. By the way if you are or know of any good HH or Goa DJs around email me. privately. Brandon From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 29 23:57:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6785 invoked by uid 6000); 29 May 1999 23:57:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 6751 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 23:57:44 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 May 1999 23:57:44 -0000 Received: from Dayraver@aol.com (14432) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3TMUa02628 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 19:56:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Dayraver@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 19:56:47 EDT Subject: very rave related. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Help! I need the number the number for the vertigo info line. Missed it when i was listening to future breaks cuz i didn't have a pen. I know Iknow, mah bad, but i still really wanna go party. Anyone's help would be greatly appreciated. Dayraver Adam =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 00:02:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8554 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 00:02:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 8541 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 00:02:31 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 00:02:31 -0000 Received: from Dayraver@aol.com (14432) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vUZPa29725 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 20:01:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Dayraver@aol.com Message-ID: <32f994b7.2481d9da@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 20:01:30 EDT Subject: NRR: THank you! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thanks for the numbah. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 00:14:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11456 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 00:14:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 11441 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 00:14:11 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 00:14:11 -0000 Received: from Angel2290@aol.com (14464) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vIUHa06484 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 20:13:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Angel2290@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 20:13:21 EDT Subject: origin... tonight To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hi everybody! if you are at origin tonight, come say hi to me, i will be wearing bright green furry pants and a daisy backpack, and i made a few sfr bracelets so if you find me and ask, and i have one, i will give it to you! everybody have a safe and fun evening wherever you go. love and hugs and stuff, jenny From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 00:44:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17696 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 00:44:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 17687 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 00:44:07 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 00:44:07 -0000 Received: from BryanLee21@aol.com (3870) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJKa002575 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 20:43:31 -0400 (EDT) From: BryanLee21@aol.com Message-ID: <27a7b013.2481e3b2@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 20:43:30 EDT Subject: BSP Bryan Lee @ Bigger 99 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey SF, Im down here in LA and I just wanted to let ya'll know whats going down in So CAL tonight. Im playing @ Bigger 99 with Thee-o, Doran , Huggie, Eyal, Paulina Taylor, Paul Matthews, Wilhelm K. , Oscure, Brownie, Patrick Levar...and many more. It should be a cool party...hope to see some of you there. I'll write a review when I get back Peace Bryan Lee Global Energy Musik From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 01:42:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 299 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 01:42:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 280 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 01:42:13 -0000 Received: from colo01-033.xoom.com (HELO www2.xoommail.com) (206.132.179.33) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 01:42:13 -0000 Received: (from service@localhost) by www2.xoommail.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA26247; Sat, 29 May 1999 18:42:12 -0700 Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 18:42:12 -0700 Message-Id: <199905300142.SAA26247@www2.xoommail.com> X-Loop: xoommail.com From: Matt -RED Organization: FCK Subject: Re: trance sux, house rox (2 words for you) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey pal'y, I've got to words for you: Suck It Good day H4RDHOUSE@aol.com wrote: > house is anti-plur? that's what i find annoying about the rave scene all the > little bright kids screaming love and peace and fooling themselves and having > to face reality sometime in there live, peace, love, unity huh? blah > > ralph > - 2000 is around the corner...promise me you'll stop the bullshit(i.e: complaining, arguing, being a total dick, etc) & just have fuN :D! Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occassion at http://greetings.xoom.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 01:55:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3402 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 01:55:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 3385 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 01:54:59 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 01:54:59 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA31732; Sat, 29 May 1999 18:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905300154.SAA31732@mail.netwiz.net> To: "San FranDisco Ravers List" Cc: groovi-music@mail.netwiz.net Cc: "Chris 'Jack' Hart" Subject: spunday timetable Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 18:54:55 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i'd like to attend spunday, and I was wondering if anybody could give me a clue as to (1) when John Acquaviva will do his 5 hr set, (2) what times it runs from and to, (3) when some of the headline DJ's might be playing such as Frankie Bones (NY), Terry Mullan (CHI), Donald Glaude (SEA), Kimball Collins (FL). Also is there a chance this will sell out? And when are the lines flat out ridiculous (like, more than 45 minutes). Thanks if you can answer any of these questions, and thanks if you can't. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 01:58:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4779 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 01:58:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 4761 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 01:58:20 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?ujaZI6orkN4iumWE264/GSGR2Yje8Zno?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 01:58:20 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id SAA22627 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 18:58:19 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 18:58:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley Reply-To: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Metropolis. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Also added to the jungle lineup: Rue and Presha from Gridlock/Compound. That is in addition to: R.A.W. with MC ? Rinse and Flux with MC Jamalski. UFO! with Duh MC. Aaron V and DJ Dose The Highlanders. Which is in addition to an absolutely phenomenal lineup including (aka the people I am giong to see if I possibly can) Terry Mullan, Charlotte the Baroness, Hieroglyphics, Pharcyde, Supernatural Turntable Artists, Donald Glaude, and CHRIS JACKSON BOH. And of course the entire night will end up being spend winin me wais line in the reggae room. Chok dere. Big up youself. Booyakasha. Respect. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 02:36:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12628 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 02:36:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 12614 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 02:36:08 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 02:36:08 -0000 Received: from FReShKiD7@aol.com (8019) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vDCFa02577 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 22:35:10 -0400 (EDT) From: FReShKiD7@aol.com Message-ID: <2e79c73a.2481fddd@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 22:35:09 EDT Subject: RIDE TO METROPOLIS NEEDED FROM SOUTH BAY To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 86 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone in the south bay ( SAN JOSE ) HAVE room for 1 PERSON in there car ??? if sooo e mail me ...Thank you... David From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 02:46:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14746 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 02:46:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 14737 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 02:46:19 -0000 Received: from law2-f67.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 02:46:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 8242 invoked by uid 0); 30 May 1999 02:45:52 -0000 Message-ID: <19990530024552.8241.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.171.33.55 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 29 May 1999 19:45:48 PDT X-Originating-IP: [128.171.33.55] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: TheDJWhore@aol.com, archangel808@hotmail.com, djundertow@hotmail.com Subject: SF Scene VS Hawaii Scene--please read Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 19:45:48 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk After reading what I just wrote, I realized that I ended up writing 2-pages. I’m sorry. If you can’t handle reading that much, like me, just go down to the end and read that. It’s really important for you all to realize how lucky we are to have a scene that’s so great. Last night I went to this party and I had this new found appreciation for the SF scene. I’m in my hometown of Hawaii right now. I grew up here and started getting into raves when I was in high school. All I ever knew about was the Hawaii scene. I had heard a little about other scenes in New York, San Francisco, and Europe, but it wasn’t easy for me to grasp on the idea of having WAY more than 300 kids at a party. Other, much larger scenes weren’t a reality for me. I was used to my maximum attendance of 300 people, DJs that weren’t all that great, having the same DJs play every weekend and playing basically the same sets every time, going to the same 3 venues, and partying with the same kids every single weekend. I thought that this was great, because I knew nothing else. It’s what I “grew up” on. And I loved it. After being in the scene for less than a year, I found that I was being considered to be part of the “old skool” crew. Everyone knew me and I knew everyone. I didn’t have to pay to get into parties anymore. I knew all the DJs, all the promoters, all the drug dealers, everyone. And this is just from being in the scene for less than a year. That’s how small it is. Then, I moved to SF after only being in the scene for 8 months, but with a mentality that I was the shit and that everyone knows who I am. I didn’t really go out much at first, because I was trying to focus on school and work, but, after a while, I started to go out more and more. I was lucky to met a guy that knows A LOT of people in the scene and could introduce me to everyone he knew. In a way, it was like being at home, because I was meeting all the cool kids and was automatically considered to be cool, just from knowing this one guy. I got into parties for free, never had to wait in line, and I was loving it. At first, though, it was hard to get used to this new scene that I was in, the mass amounts of people waiting in line, the expensive price of tickets, the crowded warehouses, the GREAT DJs, the GREAT sets that actually had variety, the candy ravers, and so much more. It’s not even right to compare the SF scene to the one in Hawaii. After a while, I just got used to it all and began to take these parties for granted. Last week, I got back to Hawaii for a visit, and finally went out to a rave last night. It was at a new club they had just opened. After talking to my friends, I was under the impression that this new venue was really good. So I got in my car and drove off with a feeling of excitement in my stomach. I was hoping that the scene had grown since I left and that it had gotten better. Boy was I wrong. I paid my $12 cover charge and went inside. There were no lines that I had to wait in and inside, it was easy for me to walk around. The place was so empty. There were two floors. The ground floor had a main floor with tables and two smaller rooms. One of the rooms had a wall covered with TV sets, one speaker, and two fans. This was the E-room. I was in there for about two seconds before feeling like I was going to throw up. I went into the other room where there was a DJ booth, a few rotating lights, couches lining the walls, one fan, and two speakers. This room was empty. There were a lot of people sitting around the tables outside the two rooms, and I made my way around them, up the stairs, and onto the dance floor on the second floor. The dance floor was about 1/5 the size of the small room at 2nd and Jackson, and it was just about empty. People were standing along the walls and railing as a total of about 10 people danced (and not well, I might add). This DJ sucked also. There were no fans, two much larger speakers, a few more rotating lights, and a smoke machine that made it hard to see anything. At 1 in the morning, after being there for an hour, my friend Ramit (aka Archangel, not to be confused with the one from SF) started his set. He threw down one of the most amazing trance sets Hawaii has ever seen, which was pretty good compared to some of the SF trance DJs. I danced pretty much through his whole set. I was dripping with sweat, as there were no fans to cool me off. About 5 guys came up to me the entire hour trying to dance ON me. And even though Ramit’s set was the best of the whole night, only about 20 people total were dancing. After he stopped spinning, I decided to leave, because I didn’t want to spoil my good mood with listening to any of the other crappy DJs. On the ride home, I realized how much I really miss SF. We have a VERY special scene, and I have learned that I should not take it for granted. I missed everything. I missed the rave scum from 2nd and Jackson because there was more scum at the party that I went to here. I missed the 12-year old E-tards because at least they had a smile on their faces. I missed the candy ravers because it was pathetic seeing one raver with a single candy necklace running around claiming that he was the biggest candy raver around. I missed the mass of people on the dance floor because I felt lonely dancing all by myself. But most of all, I missed the vibe. There is no vibe like the SF vibe. Hawaii has no feeling, no emotion, no love. I got really sad to think that this is all some of these kids have to live with. They think that they’re part of a rave scene, but it’s not one AT ALL. I just wish that I could take them out to some of the parties that we have and show them what it’s all about. I know that we all tend to take many many things for granted in our lives. The scene in SF was one thing that I took for granted but, now after seeing the awful scenes that other people are a part of, I have learned that what we have is a GREAT thing. I can’t wait to get back home and be part of that again. Please don’t take what you have for granted. Trust me, it could be worse. Love Lia Thanks for reading, but who reads down this far anyway? Geeezzzzz… this was WAY too long!!! Hehehhe… From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 03:08:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20358 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 03:08:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 20349 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 03:08:41 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd129.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.193) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 03:08:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 29389 invoked by uid 0); 30 May 1999 03:08:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19990530030814.29388.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.140.3.201 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 29 May 1999 20:08:14 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.140.3.201] From: "dj _haK" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: BSP:jungle, breaks, trance in s.j. sunday 2-2am Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 20:08:14 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk applesauce 5.30 2 till 2am. 21+ free before 4pm $10.oo after. there is sumtin for everyone. this is one of the dopest line-ups san jose has ever had. represent!!!!! jungle: R.A.W (straight fresh from LA!) sage (last chance to see her before she goes to the east coast) sifu (thermal records) honey b (thermal records) hak (solid grooves, U_A) siphon (U_A) symplex (solid grooves) trance: scott dc (nikita!!) keith edwards skyscraper oddeci mathew (all the chemistry foolz) funkybreaks: mei lwun (soulstice, om records) darkhorse (360 records) m3 (fully loaded records) chris haycock alvaro stuart (tweekin records) house: jonene (stompy) tashe (stompy) preston (stompy) rasoul (leaf,large,guidance records) chris perrins (he's english) harry who? (he's just a nut) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 03:18:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22652 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 03:18:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 22621 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 03:18:24 -0000 Received: from kzsu.stanford.edu (36.118.0.90) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 03:18:24 -0000 Received: from kzsu.Stanford.EDU (KZSU.Stanford.EDU [36.118.0.90]) by kzsu.Stanford.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA07781; Sat, 29 May 1999 20:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 20:18:23 -0700 (PDT) From: "J.C." To: Lara cc: Brentano77@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR PEOPLE! Re: Fuck the riddles In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 29 May 1999, Lara wrote: > If you > would like to receive multiple riddles and/or read the same answer to a > riddle 5 times in one day, perhaps you, and all those who don't think > RIDDLES should have a NRR tag on them should join/start up a riddle list. I'm sure the good folks at topica.com could help the potential list manager in this area. -- "An Epiphany of Sound" - 90.1 FM Tuesdays from 9PM-Mid Pacific. (Also on the web at http://realaudio.stanford.edu/). Playlists and humor list archives at http://www-kzsu.stanford.edu/~dougm "Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of KZSU Radio or Stanford University." (or words to that effect.) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 03:44:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28117 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 03:44:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 28109 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 03:44:02 -0000 Received: from baal.visi.com (HELO mail.visi.com) (209.98.98.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 03:44:02 -0000 Received: from isis.visi.com (diogenes@isis.visi.com [209.98.98.8]) by mail.visi.com (8.8.8/8.7.5) with ESMTP id WAA08633 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 22:44:01 -0500 (CDT) Posted-Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 22:44:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from diogenes@localhost) by isis.visi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA16462 for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Sat, 29 May 1999 22:44:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 22:44:01 -0500 From: Alex To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: orgin at the door Message-ID: <19990529224400.A9776@isis.visi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk so does anyone know if theres gonna be many tickets at the door :) everyone have a good time tonight -alex (i'll be there in a pinkish hawaiian shirt) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 04:08:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2437 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 04:08:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 2429 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 04:08:24 -0000 Received: from f220.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.111) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 04:08:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 53065 invoked by uid 0); 30 May 1999 04:07:57 -0000 Message-ID: <19990530040757.53064.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.152.187.235 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 29 May 1999 21:07:56 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.152.187.235] From: "Macadio G." To: pacific_united_ravers@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Venue Shopping? Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 21:07:56 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk One Problem with that. IT is in SJ you can not get a permit in SJ and not to mention that SJ has one of the biggest police forces in the bay and they usually don't have shit to do other then bust people for petty shit so trust me when I say it would get busted and it is not worth the risk. FYI I live in SJ and I know how hard it blows.. see ya, Macadio >From: Brandon Trumble >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Venue Shopping? >Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 22:51:35 -0700 (PDT) > >Is anybody looking for a good venue? There is an abandoned grocery >store here in East San Jose. I would estimate it would comfortably hold >about 500-600 people it has 2 rooms the main shopping floor, the back >warehouse storage room and you could even use the bakery for an ambient >chill spot! it has a loading dock in the back for an out door area. >PLENTY OF PARKING! and OMG its next door to Nations Giant!(perfect >morning raver grub!)Plus the guy that owns it is tearing it down for >condos in 2000 so he could care less if you trash it. Hes never rented >it out before and i bet if you waved a grand or 2 in his face FOR 1 >NIGHT! he'd sh*t his pants! Email me privately for contact info. > >Peace >Brandon > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 05:05:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16623 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 05:05:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 16612 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 05:05:04 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 05:05:04 -0000 Received: from CnDyBuNNee@aol.com (4540) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPKQa05855 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 01:04:28 -0400 (EDT) From: CnDyBuNNee@aol.com Message-ID: <9961dd04.248220db@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 01:04:27 EDT Subject: **Man in the Moon** To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey, this is Erika....is anyone going to Man in the Moon tomorrow night in Big Heart City..??...if so..tell me!! I'm going..so are my friends Anton, Grace, Nicole, Dolly (maybe), and my brother maybe.... I'll prolly be wearin' some baggy blue jeans, a lotta candy, a white visor that says "BuNNy" in pink writing, and a pink boa....if ya see me--say HI! :P That's all for now...BuH-ByE. -Erika a.ka. *BuNNee* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 05:10:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18270 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 05:10:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 18262 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 05:10:31 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 05:10:31 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (527) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iGZFa15511; Sun, 30 May 1999 01:09:40 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <10fd5b3e.24822214@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 01:09:40 EDT Subject: Re: SF Scene VS Hawaii Scene--please read To: kandykid4@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i have a simliar story. recently, a friend of mine came over from Connecticut. she goes to parties over there in new york n such so i thought i'd take her to a party here. i had all ready planned on going to the T&J two year before i knew about her coming out, so i warned her first about 2nd and jackson and how it was pretty scummy compared to most parties. so we walk in, and it was actually really clean and empty, which i was of course, happy about especially cuz i knew she would get a better feel of how bay area parties are. unfortunately, we ended up leaving around 3 cuz our driver was tired, but apparently those few hours were enough. on the car ride back to SF i asked her how she liked it and she went on and on about how much she absolutely loved it! she told me that back east, there is NOOO vibe at all!! she said that was the best party she had ever been to, even though she was really tired from the time difference and being sick (so she basically felt like sh*t all night, but still had a blast!). then she vowed that she wasn't going to go to a another party until she moves out here in august. and that party wasn't even THAT great!!!! so my point is the basically the same as Lia's-don't take our scene for granted, yadda yadda yadda, you know the whole deal. it is evident that our scene doesn't even COMPARE to anywhere else. that's all for now. ~*Alida*~ da sweet pea From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 05:33:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21926 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 05:32:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 21917 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 05:32:57 -0000 Received: from mail2.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 05:32:57 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca37-10.ix.netcom.com [207.92.174.10]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00751 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 22:32:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3750C98D.628EBEBC@geocities.com> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 22:15:57 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: Swimmer's Marijuana Ban Is Upheld Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------3547B8BBCFA996EFD6F63169" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------3547B8BBCFA996EFD6F63169 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------3547B8BBCFA996EFD6F63169 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA09709 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 21:07:30 -0700 (PDT) From: PaulxExWog@aol.com Received: from PaulxExWog@aol.com (8051) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 7RNYa02106 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 00:08:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <343e6772.2480c22e@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 00:08:14 EDT Subject: Swimmer's Marijuana Ban Is Upheld To: goodvibe@geocities.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_343e6772.2480c22e_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 --part1_343e6772.2480c22e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_343e6772.2480c22e_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: AOLNews@aol.com From: AOLNews@aol.com Full-name: AOL News Message-ID: <343e6772.24803664@aol.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 14:11:48 EDT Subject: Swimmer's Marijuana Ban Is Upheld MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) To: undisclosed-recipients:; Swimmer's Marijuana Ban Is Upheld .c The Associated Press LAUSANNE, Switzerland (AP) -- An arbitration panel on Friday upheld the three-month suspension imposed on American swimmer Gary Hall Jr. last year for a positive marijuana test. Hall, winner of two relay gold medals at the 1996 Atlanta Olympics, allegedly tested positive for marijuana at a meet in Phoenix on May 15, 1998. FINA, world swimming's governing body, handed Hall a three-month suspension on Nov. 6 of that year. Hall then appealed to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) in Lausanne. A three-man CAS panel upheld the ban Friday, saying, ``The FINA anti-doping rules constituted a sufficient legal basis to allow the federation to sanction athletes for use of marijuana, including sanctions for out-of-competition tests.'' Hall, who lives in Phoenix, won gold medals as part of the U.S. 400-meter freestyle and 400 medley relay teams in Atlanta. He also won silver medals in the 50 and 100 freestyle. In November, FINA deducted two of the three months already served by Hall during a temporary suspension. That left him with 30 more days to serve through Dec. 12. Hall won a court-order that allowed him to compete in a World Cup meet in Texas on Dec. 2, where he won the 50-meter freestyle. It was unclear whether Friday's ruling will annul that victory from the books. In March, Hall said he has been diagnosed with diabetes and is considering retiring from swimming. FINA said Hall had also tested positive for marijuana during the 1996 Olympics. He received only a warning then, however, because FINA's ban on marijuana was not in effect at the time. AP-NY-05-28-99 1411EDT Copyright 1998 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without prior written authority of The Associated Press. To edit your profile, go to keyword NewsProfiles . For all of today's news, go to keyword News. --part1_343e6772.2480c22e_boundary-- --------------3547B8BBCFA996EFD6F63169-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 05:33:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22224 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 05:33:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 22114 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 05:33:02 -0000 Received: from mail2.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 05:33:02 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca37-10.ix.netcom.com [207.92.174.10]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00802 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 22:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3750C9C3.10845C4@geocities.com> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 22:16:51 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: Canada Might OK Medical Marijuana Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------14FFBE9AA6C42ED4B414CA36" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------14FFBE9AA6C42ED4B414CA36 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------14FFBE9AA6C42ED4B414CA36 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA17973 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 21:09:07 -0700 (PDT) From: PaulxExWog@aol.com Received: from PaulxExWog@aol.com (8051) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 7RJUa02744 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 00:08:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 00:08:46 EDT Subject: Canada Might OK Medical Marijuana To: goodvibe@geocities.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_ceaca272.2480c24e_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 --part1_ceaca272.2480c24e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_ceaca272.2480c24e_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: AOLNews@aol.com From: AOLNews@aol.com Full-name: AOL News Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 19:39:37 EDT Subject: Canada Might OK Medical Marijuana MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) To: undisclosed-recipients:; Canada Might OK Medical Marijuana .c The Associated Press OTTAWA (AP) -- Canada's federal government has moved one step closer to permitting the use of marijuana for medical purposes. A measure calling for the legalization of pot for medical reasons passed Tuesday night in the House of Commons. The bill motion, tabled by an opposition party, calls on the government to ``take steps immediately'' to develop clinical trials, guidelines for its use and a safe supply of marijuana for people who need it for medical reasons. Victims of AIDS and cancer have been lobbying for years for the right to use marijuana as a pain killer and appetite stimulant. In March, Health Minister Allan Rock promised clinical trials into the medicinal use of marijuana. In the United States, the Clinton administration released new guidelines May 21 to ease the availability of marijuana for medical research, a move officials believe will quicken the pace of studies into the drug's possible beneficial uses. The new guidelines, ``an extension of an existing process,'' will make it easier for academic researchers to obtain samples of research-grade marijuana grown by the government, said Campbell Gardett, a spokesman for the Department of Health and Human Services. AP-NY-05-27-99 1939EDT Copyright 1998 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without prior written authority of The Associated Press. To edit your profile, go to keyword NewsProfiles . For all of today's news, go to keyword News. --part1_ceaca272.2480c24e_boundary-- --------------14FFBE9AA6C42ED4B414CA36-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 05:48:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27352 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 05:48:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 27337 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 05:48:44 -0000 Received: from law2-f52.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 05:48:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 82148 invoked by uid 0); 30 May 1999 05:48:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990530054817.82147.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.171.33.125 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 29 May 1999 22:48:16 PDT X-Originating-IP: [128.171.33.125] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: OXnymphXO@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: SF Scene VS Hawaii Scene--please read Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 22:48:16 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk unfortunately, i think it takes going away and experiencing a different scene to actually appriciate the one that we have. it's kinda like life huh. you never know what you've got till you don't. love lia From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 05:52:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28692 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 05:52:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 28680 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 05:52:19 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 05:52:19 -0000 Received: from WizardCCCA@aol.com (372) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vWLRa02603 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 01:51:43 -0400 (EDT) From: WizardCCCA@aol.com Message-ID: <72640273.24822bef@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 01:51:43 EDT Subject: Re: SF Scene VS Hawaii Scene--please read To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You guys have heard me post before about Colorado... I haven't been to a party here yet, so I should probably wait until then, but I think it will be hard to sway my decision that Colorado has a better scene. Just from doing research, I would have to say that most of the partys out here are the same DJs over and over and over.... In colorado we have AWESOME local talent such as Impulse and the 303collective, but we also have MADDD talent coming in from all over such as Hawaii, Chicago, SF, NY, Florida, Kansas, and many from the UK. In my 10 parties in Colorado i heard dj's like Paul Oakenfold, Sasha and Digweed, Dieselboy, Sandra Collins, and Richie Hawtin aka Plastikman. I guess I am spoiled because I wish I could see more out of state talent out here in SF, but I have noticed that a lot of promotors tend to think that they don't NEED out of state talent... Don't get me wrong... I like Mars and Mystre.... and have heard bits and pieces of Dyloot and Thomas Trouble... but don't you get tired of seeing the same thing every week? Just my perspective... Liz From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 05:59:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 401 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 05:59:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 392 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 05:59:04 -0000 Received: from law2-f84.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.84) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 05:59:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 85716 invoked by uid 0); 30 May 1999 05:58:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990530055837.85715.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.171.33.125 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 29 May 1999 22:58:37 PDT X-Originating-IP: [128.171.33.125] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: SF Scene VS Hawaii Scene--please read Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 22:58:37 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >but don't you get tired of seeing the same thing every week? i know that in sf we see the same djs every week, but at least they have TALENT. in hawaii, with an exception of a couple of them, NONE of the djs have ANY talent. and there's only like max 15 djs on the island. and basically like the same 8 play every weekend. sucks huh? love lia From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 06:24:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4392 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 06:24:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 4384 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 06:24:15 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 06:24:15 -0000 Received: from BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com (8035) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iNKJa02681; Sun, 30 May 1999 02:23:37 -0400 (EDT) From: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 02:23:36 EDT Subject: !! WHAT! SF Scene VS Hawaii Scene To: kandykid4@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk kandykid4@hotmail.com writes, <> UMMMMMM don't bitch about livin in Hawaii...that is one of the most beautiful places on Earth. I had the privilege of partying there (Honululu, HI) during spring break and had an extremely good time. I saw some good house dj's and people were friendly to me. I have been partying in SF for two and a half years now, and yes Hawaii scene is a lot different, but it's also pretty new. It seems like it is still growing, and just because it is not at the same scale as SF doesn't mean that it is horrible like you say it is. The beauty about different places is having a different type of scene. How dull would it be to have the same kind of scene wherever you went! Besides, Hawaii is a lot smaller than the Bay Area so of course the party scene is not going to be as full scale...that's kinda cool in a way because the scene is growing, and I think that would be cool to be part of the evolution. SooO people when in Hawaii...DO check out the scene, it's pretty cool. =*) -=~*LaUrE@*~=- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 06:54:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9022 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 06:54:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 9010 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 06:54:27 -0000 Received: from web1003.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.93) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 06:54:27 -0000 Message-ID: <19990530065426.18655.rocketmail@web1003.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.173.239.39] by web1003.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 29 May 1999 23:54:26 PDT Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 23:54:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Brandon Trumble Subject: A comment on Wizard's Quote OPEN YOUR EARS! To: WizardCCCA@aol.com, SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >>Don't get me wrong... I like Mars and Mystre<< About Mars & Mystre, I can not deny the fact that they are good and they can put together flawless sets but when peole say that Mars & Mystre are their Fav (and i know thats not what you said) I know that they are just saying that because they see them on every flyer and know they are popular. I know these people dont know how to analize their DJs very well beacause they sound like every other tom vick and harry that spin. They dont have their own style. Next time your raving go into Mars & Mystres room and listen to theem spin then travel into another room and listen to someone else spin like Jeno or Tracy or DJ D. You will notice a big difference in the style. Spining is an art and like art would you rather look at a stick figure (no offence to the Red Stick Man)or The Scream? Brandon --- WizardCCCA@aol.com wrote: > You guys have heard me post before about Colorado... > I haven't been to a > party here yet, so I should probably wait until > then, but I think it will be > hard to sway my decision that Colorado has a better > scene. Just from doing > research, I would have to say that most of the > partys out here are the same > DJs over and over and over.... In colorado we have > AWESOME local talent such > as Impulse and the 303collective, but we also have > MADDD talent coming in > from all over such as Hawaii, Chicago, SF, NY, > Florida, Kansas, and many from > the UK. In my 10 parties in Colorado i heard dj's > like Paul Oakenfold, Sasha > and Digweed, Dieselboy, Sandra Collins, and Richie > Hawtin aka Plastikman. I > guess I am spoiled because I wish I could see more > out of state talent out > here in SF, but I have noticed that a lot of > promotors tend to think that > they don't NEED out of state talent... Don't get me > wrong... I like Mars and > Mystre.... and have heard bits and pieces of Dyloot > and Thomas Trouble... but > don't you get tired of seeing the same thing every > week? Just my > perspective... > > Liz > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 07:04:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11309 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 07:04:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 11299 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 07:04:28 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 07:04:28 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com (8069) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPMTa29329 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 03:03:54 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 03:03:54 EDT Subject: Re: A comment on Wizard's Quote OPEN YOUR EARS! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i know im gonna get some feedback on this (negative? :P) for me its not so much who the dj is. i can never hold a dj at god status or anything like that because it all fits into one thingy for me. the music that they play isnt theirs. people write the music and what they write is what makes the crowd scream, cry, laugh, jump, and boogy. i could never have a favorite dj because they dont make the music. they mix it and make it fit together to give the crowd a good ride. but the real magic comes from the music from the person/s who made the song. i am really curious as to how alot of people can say OMG that dj is so f@cking bad ass! when all it takes is finding music people will like and mixing it. i dont want any flames but i do want feedback... -aaron (orion) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 07:27:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15627 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 07:27:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 15619 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 07:27:51 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 07:27:51 -0000 Received: from WizardCCCA@aol.com (578) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vXLBa02627; Sun, 30 May 1999 03:26:46 -0400 (EDT) From: WizardCCCA@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 03:26:45 EDT Subject: Re: A comment on Wizard's Quote OPEN YOUR EARS! To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk feedback... ok. I think you are wrong. I have heard the same damn track (don't get me wrong, I like the track, but it is way overplayed) called 1998 over and over and over again. Sure it is the same song, but I have heard it spun SOOOO many different ways that sometimes it hurts me to hear it, and other times I am crying because it is so beautiful. I am SURE it has SOMETHING to do with my mood too, but for the most part i give major props to DJ's that can make some songs good. I can honestly say I worship some DJ's. Archangel from Hawaii is one of them. Sure... he DEFINITELY plays the same old stuff, but he makes it sound GOOD. I was one my knees crying at the party he spun at and I was completely sober. It was awesome. Then there is the issue that most DJ's spin other peoples stuff... ok... well Sasha (as in sasha and digweed) has his own creations... and definitely so does Paul van Dyk (can anyone tell I am a trance baby??), and because they do make their own stuff, I have SOOO much more respect for them. The funny thing is, sometimes they make remixes of their own stuff and it sounds like crap... hehehe. But whatever, I find that the DJ's that do make their own stuff are definitely noteworthy of praise and worshipdom. :-) my $0.02, Liz From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 08:49:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25957 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 08:49:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 25949 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 08:49:53 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 08:49:53 -0000 Received: from Sera13@aol.com (8043) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vFJDa02104 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 04:49:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Sera13@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 04:49:11 EDT Subject: PMRR:(poor me rave related)Saturday night......=P To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, This little piggy is aching inside because she did not get to got out tonight.....of all evenings! I hope you all had a fantastic evening of dancing and good music tonight. That is what I love and despise about being in Frisco; you stay home for a reason, but you torture yourself the whole time because you know the potential of the evening has been wasted..... If I was back up at school I could give a f*@#% if I had to stay home on a Saturday night because there ain't shit(oops i let that slip) to do! We are lucky. Well I will stop my complaining.....thanks for your eyes! I know at least one of you danced for two tonight.....it is me whom you will dance for in the wee hours of this beautiful morning....<<>> the moon. Sorry I changed my tenses, but this night is not over for you......its over for me. Maybe I will see some of you tomorrow evening in SC when we gather to dance in honor of the moon.... Cherries.....zzzzzzzz Sera p.s. how was tony's set at Metropolis???? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 09:15:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29302 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 09:15:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 29247 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 09:15:31 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 09:15:31 -0000 From: "Michael, The Red Stickman" Subject: Re: A comment on Wizard's Quote OPEN YOUR EARS! To: Brandon Trumble Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.2.9b5 Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 02:17:24 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 29 May 1999 23:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Brandon Trumble jabberred: >>Don't get me wrong... I like Mars and Mystre<< About Mars & Mystre, I can not deny the fact that they are good and they can put together flawless sets but when peole say that Mars & Mystre are their Fav (and i know thats not what you said) I know that they are just saying that because they see them on every flyer and know they are popular. I know these people dont know how to analize their DJs very well beacause they sound like every other tom vick and harry that spin. They dont have their own style. Next time your raving go into Mars & Mystres room and listen to theem spin then travel into another room and listen to someone else spin like Jeno or Tracy or DJ D. You will notice a big difference in the style. Spining is an art and like art would you rather look at a stick figure (no offence to the Red Stick Man)or The Scream? Brandon ==== hmmm. I'd have to say...The Scream, but if the stick figure was dancing, and it was in a properly dark venue (or even better, outdoors) I'd have to say a stick figure. :P so sue me, I'm kinda biased. ;) that's my worthless post for the night, michael o)-< From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 15:36:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3140 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 15:36:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 3131 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 15:36:52 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 15:36:52 -0000 Received: from Dayraver@aol.com (526) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vVZKa11104 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 11:35:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Dayraver@aol.com Message-ID: <144645fc.2482b4d5@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 11:35:49 EDT Subject: Metropolis Review To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well I said in my "What to do, what to do" post earlier that the jungle room at Metropolis would be the only thing that would interest me in going to Metropolis, but fate and a friend in need had me making last minute plans to go. And tell you what, if I had stayed in the jungle room all night it alone would have been worth the thirty bones. We got there early and had no problem getting in. What the hell was up with making me throw out my vicks at the bag check, don't they now how much of a necessity that stuff is? Crowded? Hell yeah. For the size of the place was it lacking the proper number of fans? Yep. It was hot as hell in every room, well don't know for sure cuz wasn't too much into the reggae lounge or chill room. It was so humid there I there was leaky faucet over my head but after sweating so much I didn't give a crap about the temperature after awhile. And I hate to say it but thank god jungle aint as popular as some of the other types of music, cuz the jungle room wasn't as crowded and that's fine with me. You know what I learned...the music might not be as loud but I was way more comfortable dancing to them funky house beats outside rather than amongst the masses. Thanks to UFO and Duh MC, what was it "Gotta have it rewind?" hahaha. He was right I can go all night long. And can't forget Rinse and Flux, I'm glad i got the chance to shake Rinse's hand and thank him for that set. Couple things about this party, they did spend. Very well decorated and those bouncy cage thingamahwhatsits, you know the kind where it's filled with air and you take off your shoes and jump around like a little kid. Oh those bouncy cage thingamahwhatsits, yeah, they were a plus. Great party, but you know what, I get the feeling this party was all about making someone or somefew a pretty good chunk o change and we all fell for it. Had a great time, really I did, but I don't see myself going to a party like that for a long looong time. God dammit what am I talking about, that's right I'm going to splender blender, well they're kinda the same, they're both huge. Really sorry I didn't get to see you Val, hope you understand, but think of it this way it'll be that much greater when we do finally see each other again. Anyways everyone enjoy all the parties you can this weekend but do it safely and with a big smile. Dayraver Adam. 8) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 17:46:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29920 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 17:46:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 29912 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 17:46:30 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 17:46:30 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com (8017) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vMUWa19484 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 13:45:09 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <16a8410.2482d325@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 13:45:09 EDT Subject: metropolis..... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok i'm really confussed..... at the very last minute my best friend talked me into go and bour me my ticket..... i was very skeptical..... see the thing is i had a really *really* good time, but nothing about this party was exceptional...'cept i got a chance to see some friends who only voyage to the bay from sac for massives.... and other than that i saw a few people i hadn't in a while... but i dunno... the music was good, but aside from terry mullin's set closing it down in the main room, nothing really stands out as great..... there were alright decorations, but i've seem much more done with hombase... latest example--quest.... and while it was partially a non-typical rave crowd, i didn't notice any really bad vibes with the exception of the rude pushing, but that happens now these days all the time since people just don't really respect one another as much as they used to.... i dance my fair share, spent a lot of time outside where it wasn't crowded since the rest of the party was.... i mean i had thought that before 4am hit that a lot of the kids there would have left since the heiro and pharsyde where over by then and since i figured many of them would tire of the crowds and heat..... but alas it didn't clear out much .... i dunno, i am up on caffine right now and went out to breakfest with my best friend and stuff so i haven't slept yet, but i spent a large chunk of this morning sitting with my bestfriend looking through old rave pics and somehow we decided to try and remember all the parties we've been too.. and i looked up my old journal from a year ago and i had most of the parties from the first year i had raved written down... and for some reason, i think i was able to figure out about 90% of the rest from this last year........ lol well, i guess the lack of sleep and a lot of caffine makes u do weird things.... i even went through some of the archives to look for the calendars to try and remember.... well it was super fun...... i was only able to remember about 50 parties, but it was fun to try and then to remember some of the stories that went along with those parties.... ok i'm gonna stop rambling on now and get some rest cuz i'm sure u guys all think i'm tweaking (i'm not!!!) and just really could care less about why i don't know why i liked the party or how i spent my morning thus far..... ha ha ok bye kiddos hope everyone has fun and is safe this holiday weekend!!!!!! if i'm lucky i'll try to be at the full moon 2nite...if u see a really tired girlie it's probably me... wow! what a weekend!!! grad nite in disneylad, the party, waterworld today and full moon tonite (hopefully).... love and hugs and kissses, tina From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 18:16:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6517 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 18:16:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 6500 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 18:16:55 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 18:16:55 -0000 Received: from CnDyBuNNee@aol.com (8001) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vEEYa01068 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 14:16:15 -0400 (EDT) From: CnDyBuNNee@aol.com Message-ID: <3c00ef23.2482da6f@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 14:16:15 EDT Subject: --- (Man in the Moon) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk =09I'm in a crisis!!! Aaah!! I wrote an e-mail yesterday about what I=20 was wearing tonight to Man in the Moon---I mentioned my Bunny=20 visor....well.....IT'S MISSING!! I can't find it!!! :( If I find=20 it...I'll definitely wear it....but if not..this is what I'm wearing so far: =20 very baggy blue jeans, Twister=AE (the game) tank top, a clear bubbly blow-= up=20 Mudd=AE backpack, a pink boa, and lotsa CanDy.... Hope to see some people=20 there....say hi to me if you recognize me! :) Meanwhile..I'll be looking=20 for that gosh-darn visor.... :::pout::: BuH-ByE! LoTsa LoVe, -Erika =20 *BuNNee* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 18:25:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7899 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 18:24:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 7891 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 18:24:57 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 18:24:57 -0000 Received: from BGChris420@aol.com (3873) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vDQPa05855 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 14:24:12 -0400 (EDT) From: BGChris420@aol.com Message-ID: <2add2f69.2482dc4c@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 14:24:12 EDT Subject: Re: Riddle time Sat {nrr} To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk A carousel From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 19:53:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 287 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 19:53:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 278 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 19:53:18 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 19:53:18 -0000 Received: from BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com (532) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vTHKa02742 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 15:52:31 -0400 (EDT) From: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com Message-ID: <393df8da.2482f0ed@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 15:52:13 EDT Subject: Where is Beatdown? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The voicemail seems to not be functioning....Can anyone tell me where its going to be? -=~*LaUrE@*~=- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 20:15:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5799 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 20:15:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 5775 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 20:15:01 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 20:15:01 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (4452) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3PUOa26412 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 16:14:17 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <3f3f4dd0.2482f603@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 16:13:55 EDT Subject: Re: SF Scene VS Hawaii Scene--please read To: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The only person from out of town that i think I've really taken to a party was this girl from orange county that I took to Vibe This!! and she was so blown away that she couldn't believe SF was so much better than SoCal. But then.. Vibe This was one of the best parties of last year (IMHO) However, I also get the... "Sf sucks... it's all about who you know and what favors you've done... if you don't know the right people then you get treated like shit" Which on some level is very true. I feel LIke we have a very special scene, being in the locale that we are (i.e. melting pot of America). I think I'm just ready to sample some other stuff to know what I've got back home. To each their own..... hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 20:22:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8600 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 20:22:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 8591 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 20:22:29 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 20:22:29 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (4452) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3NNLa03188 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 16:21:23 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <57fc213f.2482f7c3@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 16:21:23 EDT Subject: Re: A comment on Wizard's Quote OPEN YOUR EARS! To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk My favorite was when I was at some party and a dj (who shall remain nameless!) dropped his first rekkid and this girl runs up to me and goes OHMAHGAWD!! THis DJ IS SO FUCKING DOPE!!! YEAH!! and then starts dancing.... UM.. yeah. So you liked the "TRACK" but not the DJ..... true artists get little recognition for their work, and a lot of time their work is just remixes, but still... the focus is on who is in front of you at that moment when the beats kick in and you go off. So you want artists to have more recognition?? I think they should.. that's what J-cards are for and all that good stuff but Djs don't post what tracks they are going to play at parties. HOwever, you can't deny the skill that's involved in DJing.... People spend years perfecting the perfect transitions, backspins, and patterns of rekkids they will use to motivate a crowd. I'm gonna sum it all up... It sucks that artists don't get more recognition, but that's their deal.. .if they wanted more attention they could follow in the footsteps of FatBoySlim, Commercial and in your face all the way.... however Djs are still awesome and you'd be lost in this scene without them =) That or trying to dance to live PA after live PA... hahahaha hugs n'stuf, trice the tekno diva << i know im gonna get some feedback on this (negative? :P) for me its not so much who the dj is. i can never hold a dj at god status or anything like that because it all fits into one thingy for me. the music that they play isnt theirs. people write the music and what they write is what makes the crowd scream, cry, laugh, jump, and boogy. i could never have a favorite dj because they dont make the music. they mix it and make it fit together to give the crowd a good ride. but the real magic comes from the music from the person/s who made the song. i am really curious as to how alot of people can say OMG that dj is so f@cking bad ass! when all it takes is finding music people will like and mixing it. i dont want any flames but i do want feedback... -aaron (orion) >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun May 30 20:38:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13056 invoked by uid 6000); 30 May 1999 20:38:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 13035 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 20:38:00 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 May 1999 20:38:00 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (4452) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3DPHa02104 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 16:37:17 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <6eb1f754.2482fb7b@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 16:37:15 EDT Subject: (nrr/bsp) coolworld flyers? oh sorry.. posters.... To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yumyumyum... so I picked up the new cyberfest posters... oops I mean magazine.. oops.. I mean flyers and they have pics of all the DJS along the bottom. and low and behold.. it was pointed out to me that my photo work was snuck in there. YAY! a little centimeter by centimeter square copy of a black and white photo I made for HKIan.... This is it folks.. I'm in the bigtime now!! Before you know it my work will be being published in TIme magazine.. and just you wait! you can say you knew me when... Hahahah I'm just kidding.. but it feels good to um.. have some small piece of my artwork plastered on flyers. ok... hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 31 00:08:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15464 invoked by uid 6000); 31 May 1999 00:07:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 15456 invoked from network); 31 May 1999 00:07:57 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 May 1999 00:07:57 -0000 Received: from IISPlNlI@aol.com (7806) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vTBNa02106 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 20:07:28 -0400 (EDT) From: IISPlNlI@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 20:07:28 EDT Subject: Saterday's Riddle and Answer {nrr} To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Twelve white ponies, On a red hill, Always moving, but standing still. What are we? Answer: Teeth From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 31 01:25:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2409 invoked by uid 6000); 31 May 1999 01:25:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 2387 invoked from network); 31 May 1999 01:25:40 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 May 1999 01:25:40 -0000 Received: from Speedex33@aol.com (260) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iOQHa02270; Sun, 30 May 1999 21:24:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Speedex33@aol.com Message-ID: <8d0a1578.24833eb8@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 21:24:08 EDT Subject: Re: Re: SF Scene VS Hawaii Scene To: OXnymphXO@aol.com, kandykid4@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Netmail Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Parties in the east? I thought Hawaii was west of us? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 31 02:12:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18584 invoked by uid 6000); 31 May 1999 02:12:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 18349 invoked from network); 31 May 1999 02:11:59 -0000 Received: from web1002.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.92) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 May 1999 02:11:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19990531021158.6589.rocketmail@web1002.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.173.231.219] by web1002.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 30 May 1999 19:11:58 PDT Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 19:11:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Brandon Trumble Subject: Full Moon & The Venue To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok ppl that want info on the vwnue ill have it tomorrow...But right now im getting ready for full moon! Hey if you see a tall skinny guy in big black & brown pants that have 69 patch on the lower cargo pocket and is wearing a yellow viser w/ a happy face made of glow in the dark stars... THATS ME! and i want hugs and If you say HI KYD! Ill give you candy cuz i went out and bought hella sweets! Love you all! Rave On...pLuR! Brandon "KyD" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 31 02:12:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19431 invoked by uid 6000); 31 May 1999 02:12:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 18922 invoked from network); 31 May 1999 02:12:28 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 May 1999 02:12:28 -0000 Received: from HppyXTC@aol.com (14422) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJYUa02577 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 22:11:49 -0400 (EDT) From: HppyXTC@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 22:11:49 EDT Subject: Full Moon Party ? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey, Im just wondering if this party is going to be north or south of Half Moon Bay. Makes a HUGE difference to us down here in the south bay. If anyone knows...PLEASE let me know! Thanks! Love, Heather From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 31 03:16:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2237 invoked by uid 6000); 31 May 1999 03:16:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 2229 invoked from network); 31 May 1999 03:16:13 -0000 Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (206.253.129.185) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 May 1999 03:16:13 -0000 Received: from canuck (dynamic44.pm05.mv.best.com [209.24.241.44]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id XAA29698 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 23:15:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000d01beab13$b3601760$2cf118d1@canuck> From: "ry-N" To: Subject: my morning (IMPORTANT please read) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 20:14:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01BEAAD9.05CB7E80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BEAAD9.05CB7E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable so anyways ... I dont even know where to begin or what I really want to = say here ... but I want to talk about something really important. this morning my best friend and I were almost killed by a kid coming = home from metropolis. We were driving down 880 on our way home from = Origin and I saw a car coming up behind me. I was goin about 70 .. he = was probably going 100. I thought he would change lanes or break but he = just kept getting closer. By the time I could see in my rear view = mirror he was sound asleep it was too late. I tried to swerve out of = the way but he hit me from behind at about 100 miles an hour, sending me = spinning out of control off the freeway, down an embankment, through a = fence, rolled, hit a tree, rolled a few more times and finally stopped = about 50 feet down in a parking for some office building off the = freeway. The rest is pretty much a miracle ... when the car stopped I = turned to my best friend who was in the passenger seat, he asked me if I = was ok. I said yeah, we hugged then opened the doors and walked away. = We are both bruised and have some stiches from the broken glass but = besides that we are both fine. My car is completely destroyed, when the = paramedics got there they looked at us and said "You guys walked away = from THAT? Damn you are gonna be poster children for seatbelts." =20 We were both taken to the hospital and all we have show for it is a few = stiches in my face and Jason's arm. The guy who hit me was fine. I didnt even go talk to him for about half an hour. What do you say to = someone who almost killed you? Finally I walked over to him, he was = just a kid, he just looked at me, I gave him a hug and said "this = fucking sucks ... but I guess we should be happy no one is hurt." He = apologized to me and said he must have fallen asleep. I looked at his = car and he had a Quest flyer on his windshield. I asked him where was = was and he said he was at Metropolis. He left the party around 4, slept = in his car for a bit and then figured he was ok to drive home. Every weeekend thousands of kids head out to raves, do drugs, dance all = night, and then hop in their cars and drive home. The guy who hit me = lives in Gilroy - 2 hours from Oakland. Im not trying to be preachy = here, I can't claim to be holier than thou. I drive home from parties = too, but I like to think I have enough common sense to know when I = should and shouldnt drive. Who knows, maybe I dont. I'll tell you this = much .. what happened this morning will certainly make me rethink the = way I get too and from parties. I think its all something we take a = little too lightly, but the bottom line is that this morning my life = (and my closest and most dearest friend's) was almost ended by someone = coming home from a rave. So maybe its all something we should give a = little more consideration to. So anyways, I'm sick of sitting here in pain and reliving this all in my = head so I think I'll head up to man in the moon for a few hours so I can = be around friends. I'll be the one with the stiches in my face and the = hat on to cover the cuts on my head ... hmm sounds sexy eh? well, I guess thats all I wanted to say. please be careful ryan ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BEAAD9.05CB7E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
so anyways ... I dont even know = where to begin=20 or what I really want to say here ... but I want to talk about something = really=20 important.
 
this morning my best friend and I = were almost=20 killed by a kid coming home from metropolis.  We were driving down = 880 on=20 our way home from Origin and I saw a car coming up behind me.  I = was goin=20 about 70 .. he was probably going 100.  I thought he would change = lanes or=20 break but he just kept getting closer.  By  the time I could = see in my=20 rear view mirror he was sound asleep it was too late.  I tried to = swerve=20 out of the way but he hit me from behind at about 100 miles an hour, = sending me=20 spinning out of control off the freeway, down an embankment, through a = fence,=20 rolled, hit a tree, rolled a few more times and finally stopped about 50 = feet=20 down in a parking for some office building off the freeway.   = The rest=20 is pretty much a miracle ... when the car stopped I turned to my best = friend who=20 was in the passenger seat, he asked me if I was ok.  I said yeah, = we hugged=20 then opened the doors and walked away.  We are both bruised and = have some=20 stiches from the broken glass but besides that we are both fine.  = My car is=20 completely destroyed, when the paramedics got there they looked at us = and said=20 "You guys walked away from THAT?  Damn you are gonna be poster = children for seatbelts."  
 
We were both taken to the hospital = and all we=20 have show for it is a few stiches in my face and Jason's arm.  The = guy who=20 hit me was fine.
 
I didnt even go talk to him for = about half an=20 hour.  What do you say to someone who almost killed you?  = Finally I=20 walked over to him, he was just a kid, he just looked at me, I gave him = a hug=20 and said "this fucking sucks ... but I guess we should be happy no = one is=20 hurt."  He apologized to me and said he must have fallen = asleep. =20 I looked at his car and he had a Quest flyer on his windshield.  I = asked=20 him where was was and he said he was at Metropolis. He left the party = around 4,=20 slept in his car for a bit and then figured he was ok to drive=20 home.
 
Every weeekend thousands of kids = head out to=20 raves, do drugs, dance all night, and then hop in their cars and drive=20 home.  The guy who hit me lives in Gilroy - 2 hours from = Oakland.  Im=20 not trying to be preachy here, I can't claim to be holier than thou. I = drive=20 home from parties too, but I like to think I have enough common sense to = know=20 when I should and shouldnt drive.  Who knows, maybe I dont.  = I'll tell=20 you this much .. what happened this morning will certainly make me = rethink the=20 way I get too and from parties.  I think its all something we take = a little=20 too lightly, but the bottom line is that this morning my life (and my = closest=20 and most dearest friend's) was almost ended by someone coming home from = a rave.=20 So maybe its all something we should give a little more consideration=20 to.
 
So anyways, I'm sick of sitting here = in pain and=20 reliving this all in my head so I think I'll head up to man in the moon = for a=20 few hours so I can be around friends.  I'll be the one with the = stiches in=20 my face and the hat on to cover the cuts on my head ... hmm sounds sexy=20 eh?
 
well, I guess thats all I wanted to = say. =20 please be careful
 
ryan
------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BEAAD9.05CB7E80-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 31 03:23:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3984 invoked by uid 6000); 31 May 1999 03:23:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 3976 invoked from network); 31 May 1999 03:23:15 -0000 Received: from law2-f45.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.45) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 May 1999 03:23:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 87460 invoked by uid 0); 31 May 1999 03:22:48 -0000 Message-ID: <19990531032248.87459.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.171.33.166 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 30 May 1999 20:22:47 PDT X-Originating-IP: [128.171.33.166] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: Speedex33@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Re: SF Scene VS Hawaii Scene Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 20:22:47 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Parties in the east? I thought Hawaii was west of us? duh, it is. hehehhe... love lia From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 31 03:40:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7284 invoked by uid 6000); 31 May 1999 03:40:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 7268 invoked from network); 31 May 1999 03:40:06 -0000 Received: from law2-f203.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.203) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 May 1999 03:40:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 42198 invoked by uid 0); 31 May 1999 03:39:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19990531033939.42197.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.171.33.166 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 30 May 1999 20:39:36 PDT X-Originating-IP: [128.171.33.166] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: binary_fineboy@iname.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: my morning (IMPORTANT please read) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 20:39:36 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >this morning my best friend and I were almost killed by a kid coming >home >from metropolis i'm soo glad that you're ok. :) >Every weeekend thousands of kids head out to raves, do drugs, dance >all >night, and then hop in their cars and drive home. that's how it used to be for me too. i, as much as i hate to admit it, would always be the desiganted driver, even if i was high. i didn't trust anyone else to drive high, so i would do it myself. i finally learned when i was driving to a party and the acid that i took hit me hard. i had about 12 other kids in my van, every one of them, except for the kid in the passager seat was sober. we stopped off to get gas, and i was on a little side street, trying to get back on the freeway. i couldn't see well, it was night and i was hallucinating BADLY, and i was speeding. i thought that i could get onto the freeway through this little driveway type thing, so i swerved my car. two seconds later, i slammed on my breaks, turned off the car, and got out. i looked at the front of my car, and saw that i was about a foot from hitting one of those big cement things that hold up the freeway. when i was driving, i couldn't see that i was about to hit it, i just had a gut instinct to stop the car. none of the passagers realized that we almost crashed until after. i was completely shaken up and i handed my friend steve the keys to my car, which never has happened before (like many people, i don't let ANYONE drive my car). after that night, i learned my lesson. now, if the people i'm with are doing drugs or drinking and there's no one else to drive, i will stay sober so that i could drive for them. i wouldn't ever let my boyfriend at the time drive me when he's high, or tired. i think that he's worse driving tired if anything. and thankfully he would actually let me drive his car for him (his car is his baby). people, it's dangerous to drive under the influence or tired. and i'd hate to lose a friend to it. drive safely. it's summertime and there's gonna be a lot of partying going on. just please please drive safely. i beg you. love lia From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 31 03:51:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11387 invoked by uid 6000); 31 May 1999 03:51:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 11372 invoked from network); 31 May 1999 03:51:51 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 May 1999 03:51:51 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (7806) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vMAUa15536 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 23:51:20 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 23:51:19 EDT Subject: Web Page Help {nrr} To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey can I get some feed back on my Web page I just finished this part of it and I was wondering how it looks Funny or not Funny, o by the way most of the links to other parts of my page don't work yet. But they will http://www.angelfire.com/hi/ovydd/furby.html From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 31 03:59:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14968 invoked by uid 6000); 31 May 1999 03:59:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 14787 invoked from network); 31 May 1999 03:59:49 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 May 1999 03:59:49 -0000 Received: from IISPlNlI@aol.com (7806) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLRVa02623; Sun, 30 May 1999 23:59:01 -0400 (EDT) From: IISPlNlI@aol.com Message-ID: <27a96d5b.24836304@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 23:59:00 EDT Subject: Re: Web Page Help {nrr} To: WhrDaMud@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That is some Funny $hit man http://www.angelfire.com/hi/ovydd/furby.html From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 31 04:16:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18320 invoked by uid 6000); 31 May 1999 04:16:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 18148 invoked from network); 31 May 1999 04:16:18 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 May 1999 04:16:18 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EBWW7UUT; Mon, 31 May 1999 00:15:24 EDT To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 21:19:29 -0700 Subject: Origin? Hypocrite!!!! Message-ID: <19990530.212003.-468383.1.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 14-15,29-30,33-39 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am such a hypocrite. I bad mouth origin for their new years party, say there's no way in hell I'd be there last night, and then, lo and behold, my ass is there. Well I spent not one dime last night, so I guess it's okay. Not sure if anyone got to see me and my boy Stephen making complete fools of ourselves and loving every minute of it, but I had an amazing time last night, which had more to do with my company than the quality of the party. It was a lot better than the last one, but some of the music was awful (kikoman, markie quark). Greg was rockin it even before the party started, gourachandra rocked so hard (the Oooh yeah song with techno), plus he was the most interesting to watch because he actually looks like he's having fun. What was sad was that this dude Kikoman is supposed to be dope detroit techno, handpicked by one of the best, but he really sucked. I guess I just picked up on this attitude he had that was like a mix of cockiness for being a detroit techno dj, but without any self assurance because he sucks. Basically, I didn't make this party about dancing, at least not serious dancing. My boy and I were the people we make fun of, freaking from the back side to side, kissing in the middle of the room and in front of the decks, acting like silly fools and not giving a shit. Besides this, we also made hobbies of general clowning, trying to get security guards to dance, following the cops, trying to make friends with them, freaking them, freaking behind the decks while goura was spinning, and freaking mark amoeba from behind. And agressive Quest promotion. Fuck that party!!!!! Go to Quest, and seriously breaking down why (can we say lineup, can we say incredible environment, a promoter worthy of much respect, and did you see how good the last one was?) We also talked down some kid who was having a bad trip, which was really fun because we were in the perfect state to identify with him. He was cool as long as he was talking to us, but as soon as he got up he'd flip out again. Weird shit. Oh yeah and this is my last post under this name. I'm trying to hook it up on my computer, but the email is weird. So I might be gone for a lit bit, but if ya know me and give a shit, email me at dadope@ix.netcom.com. Peace, Theresa aka Da Dope hoochie mama forever or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 31 05:27:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2825 invoked by uid 6000); 31 May 1999 05:27:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 2817 invoked from network); 31 May 1999 05:27:51 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 May 1999 05:27:51 -0000 Received: from Pogobee@aol.com (3888) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rTHQa02574; Mon, 31 May 1999 01:26:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Pogobee@aol.com Message-ID: <645ccd61.24837776@aol.com> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 01:26:14 EDT Subject: Re: my morning (IMPORTANT please read) To: binary_fineboy@iname.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ryan, i'm just very glad you and jay survived such an ordeal. i would have been tossed into a great depression if i lost you two. angels must be watching over you guys. :) -- pogobee - the everthankful In a message dated 99-05-30 23:16:24 EDT, binary_fineboy@iname.com writes: << this morning my best friend and I were almost killed by a kid coming home from metropolis. We were driving down 880 on our way home from Origin and I saw a car coming up behind me. I was goin about 70 .. he was probably going 100. I thought he would change lanes or break but he just kept getting closer. By the time I could see in my rear view mirror he was sound asleep it was too late. I tried to swerve out of the way but he hit me from behind at about 100 miles an hour, sending me spinning out of control off the freeway, down an embankment, through a fence, rolled, hit a tree, rolled a few more times and finally stopped about 50 feet down in a parking for some office building off the freeway. The rest is pretty much a miracle ... when the car stopped I turned to my best friend who was in the passenger seat, he asked me if I was ok. I said yeah, we hugged then opened the doors and walked away. We are both bruised and have some stiches from the broken glass but besides that we are both fine. My car is completely destroyed, when the paramedics got there they looked at us and said "You guys walked away from THAT? Damn you are gonna be poster children for seatbelts." >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 31 07:51:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2984 invoked by uid 6000); 31 May 1999 07:51:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 2973 invoked from network); 31 May 1999 07:51:00 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 May 1999 07:51:00 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (8003) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vVUNa02575 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 03:50:25 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 03:50:25 EDT Subject: Watch out for the new virus {nrr} To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk LAST "GOODTIMES" VIRUS WARNING. Goodtimes will rewrite your hard drive. Not only that, but it will scramble any disks that aren't even close to your computer. It will re-calibrate your refrigerator's coolness setting so all your ice cream goes melty. It will demagnetize the strips on all your credit cards, screw up the tracking on your television & VCR and use subspace field harmonics to scratch any CD's you try to play. It will give your ex-girlfriend your new phone number. It will mix Kool-Aid into your fish tank. It will drink all your beer and leave its socks out on the coffee table when there's company coming over. It will put a dead cockroach in the back pocket of your good suit pants and hide your car keys when you are late for work. Goodtimes will make you fall in love with a penguin. It will give you nightmares about circus midgets. It will pour sugar into your gas tank and shave off both your eyebrows while dating your girlfriend behind your back and billing the dinner & hotel room to your Discover card. It will slander your grandmother. It does not matter if she is dead or not, such is the power of Goodtimes, it reaches out beyond the grave to sully those things we hold most dear. It moves your car randomly around parking lots so you can't find it. It will kick your dog. It will leave libidinous messages on your bosses voice mail in your voice! It is insidious and subtle. It is dangerous and terrifying to behold. It is also a rather interesting shade of mauve. Goodtimes will give you Dutch Elm disease. It will leave the toilet seat up. It will make a batch of Meth in your bath tub and leave bacon cooking on your stove while it goes out to chase grade schoolers with your new snow blower. Remember this was just a joke. I hope you realized this long ago. Love and Light High tech redneck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 31 09:12:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18718 invoked by uid 6000); 31 May 1999 09:12:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 18710 invoked from network); 31 May 1999 09:12:27 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 May 1999 09:12:27 -0000 From: "Creamy Goodness" Subject: Dont tell nobody To: sfraves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.2.9b5 Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 02:14:14 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, I really like trance now. I think it really kicks ass actually. So, I was wondering if anyone knew of any really good trance sites that have MP3's. Thanks. Steve PS - God help me. =p Steve Best NOC Engineer Excite@home From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 31 10:04:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17801 invoked by uid 6000); 31 May 1999 10:04:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 17792 invoked from network); 31 May 1999 10:04:25 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?BsG0OA7Y0oMVRtcNEFI5GX7wkY+Ev6m7?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 May 1999 10:04:25 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id DAA04741; Mon, 31 May 1999 03:04:23 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 03:04:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: dadope@juno.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Origin? Hypocrite!!!! In-Reply-To: <19990530.212003.-468383.1.DaDope@juno.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 30 May 1999 dadope@juno.com wrote: > > Basically, I didn't make this party about dancing, at least not serious > dancing. My boy and I were the people we make fun of, freaking from the > back side to side, kissing in the middle of the room and in front of the > decks, acting like silly fools and not giving a shit. Besides this, we Right. We are not married anymore. Big up youself. Booyakasha. Respect. Give me my platform boots back, tummypumper. 10-4, duh, max SINGLE AGAIN. RINSIN. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 31 10:26:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21373 invoked by uid 6000); 31 May 1999 10:25:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 21363 invoked from network); 31 May 1999 10:25:54 -0000 Received: from law2-f89.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.89) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 May 1999 10:25:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 68113 invoked by uid 0); 31 May 1999 10:25:27 -0000 Message-ID: <19990531102527.68112.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.149.167.15 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 31 May 1999 03:25:26 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.149.167.15] From: "* that angel chick *" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: BSP: DENSITY 2nite/BASSMENT/APPLESAUCE Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 03:25:26 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hola ever-raving souls. Hope all is well with ya'll. Rashida here to let you know about some fun stuff coming up and what i did tonight. So, it's 2:40 in the mornin and i don't hafta get up early, so i'm gonna write yooz and then go watch "A Christmas Story". I just got back from Applesauce in San Jose. My first South Bay par-tay. I had a great time. Cause of the sound system, the djs and mc, and buddies like miggidy maytag and my #7 dancing fool Russ. Much love to Hak and Siphon for organizing a great drum-n-bass room and making last minute adjustments. It was great to finally meet you guys! sheesh. Unfortunately, i missed my darling Honey B's set but got to see Sifu who rocked it. Siren and Sage ended up doing a neato kind of tag team thing that worked out well, wish them luck as they take over america this June. Finally, (for me) UFO! came on and i got to jump around in front of the speaker like a freak. Strangers begged for answers: "Don't your ears hurt?"... "It's really good, but it's soooo loud!?" (not really a question, but looking for some kind of explanation since i seemed to have no problem with it) to both, i could only respond gleefully, "YESSSSSSS!!!!" Then, R.A.W. came on and it sounded super funky and sampled-filled from what i heard (only about 6 minutes doug e. fresh) soooo, i'll just hafta check him out tonight at DENSITY!!!! segue, segue, segue... YES FOLKS!!! 5.31.99 * * * D E N S I T Y * * * with R.A.W. and SHY FX featuring Duh MC on the mic (big up YO self!) 9:30 @ JUSTICE LEAGUE, 628 DIVISADERO (@ HAYES) SF sorry, 21+up much respect to those who came out last week, remember if i took your name cause you are on a free list!!! :D all others pay ca$h!!!!! yeehaw! the next BSP which you'll hear more about as the week moves on... Friday June 4th @ the bassment 1015 Folsom (SF/21+up) D S C I 4 R E C O R D S 1 9 9 9 L A B E L L A U N C H T O U R this legendary session will consist of three of the Tech Step sound originators dropping some serious lessons on the unsuspecting masses... F I E R C E T R A C E M C R Y M E T Y M E Local Phunckateck member Jason Mouse will be opening up the night hosted by Eklektic and Groundscore i didn't write all that, but i will be there with bells on and happily promote it. fierce was simply amazing in miami at the winter music conference. i had already been dancing for about 3 1/2 hours when he came on and i got this jolt of energy like when you hear that dinging signal that means you get an extra chick in ms. pac man. great schtuff. ok, now i'm a-sleepy. i can tell because max's voice is slowly leaving my head. that boy has a story for everything! my pal. love & peace in abundance, shida (mc angel) p.s. listen out for me singing at eklektic on 6/10 with arc angel gabe real. talk about pure audible love. and, this summer, on green label 008 "NOEL featuring MC ANGEL" yeauuuuuhhhh! again, i say unto thee, YEEEHAW! (psst...go to phunktion...ya bums!) quote o' the moment: "i feel warm rain running down my face, i embrace all the love that lies around me, i feel no shame, nothing to erase, i wouldn't change a single day that lies before me." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 31 11:10:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26568 invoked by uid 6000); 31 May 1999 11:10:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 26560 invoked from network); 31 May 1999 11:10:14 -0000 Received: from law2-f119.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.119) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 May 1999 11:10:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 85585 invoked by uid 0); 31 May 1999 11:09:48 -0000 Message-ID: <19990531110948.85584.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.171.66.17 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 31 May 1999 04:09:46 PDT X-Originating-IP: [128.171.66.17] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: synthkid@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Hawaii vs SF...questions... Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 04:09:46 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i still think that you should party here. it's worth going out and seeing. it'll give you an idea of what other parties are like. i mean, from what i said in my past email, i know that i have a very negative view towards hawaii, but i also have to add that i've seen a lot of bad shit there too. like in every scene, there are the "normal" and "happy" ravers and there are the crackheads. in hawaii, the newbies are always the happy ones and the old skoolers (not all of them but most) are the crackheads. i was hanging out with the old skoolers and got messed up in some shit that shouldn't have happened. i don't regret any of it (i have no regrets, ever), but it's not something that i would EVER recommend to others. when i think of going back and partying in hawaii, i'm taken back to awful memories i have of experiences i went through and people i was associated with. this is why i have a negative attitude towards hawaii. other people that aren't associated with the things i was don't have this attitude and don't quite understand it. my advice to you is to not listen to me when making your own judgements about the scene in hawaii. i have a fucked up warped version of it. you need to go out and see it yourself and make up your own mind. i say, yes, go and party it up in hawaii. and HAVE FUN!! and write back and lemme know what you think of it. love lia From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 31 11:39:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2494 invoked by uid 6000); 31 May 1999 11:39:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 2486 invoked from network); 31 May 1999 11:39:55 -0000 Received: from law2-f208.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.208) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 May 1999 11:39:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 66970 invoked by uid 0); 31 May 1999 11:39:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990531113929.66969.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.149.167.15 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 31 May 1999 04:39:28 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.149.167.15] From: "* that angel chick *" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: bettydorko@hotmail.com Subject: BSP: DENSITY/BASSMENT/APPLESAUCE review Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 04:39:28 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk sorry if you got this twice... Hola ever-raving souls. Hope all is well with ya'll. Rashida here to let you know about some fun stuff coming up and what i did tonight. So, it's 2:40 in the mornin and i don't hafta get up early, so i'm gonna write yooz and then go watch "A Christmas Story". I just got back from Applesauce in San Jose. My first South Bay par-tay. I had a great time. Cause of the sound system, the djs and mc, and buddies like miggidy maytag and my #7 dancing fool Russ. Much love to Hak and Siphon for organizing a great drum-n-bass room and making last minute adjustments. It was great to finally meet you guys! sheesh. Unfortunately, i missed my darling Honey B's set but got to see Sifu who rocked it. Siren and Sage ended up doing a neato kind of tag team thing that worked out well, wish them luck as they take over america this June. Finally, (for me) UFO! came on and i got to jump around in front of the speaker like a freak. Strangers begged for answers: "Don't your ears hurt?"... "It's really good, but it's soooo loud!?" (not really a question, but looking for some kind of explanation since i seemed to have no problem with it) to both, i could only respond gleefully, "YESSSSSSS!!!!" Then, R.A.W. came on and it sounded super funky and sampled-filled from what i heard (only about 6 minutes doug e. fresh) soooo, i'll just hafta check him out tonight at DENSITY!!!! segue, segue, segue... YES FOLKS!!! 5.31.99 *******DENSITY****** with R.A.W. and SHY FX featuring Duh MC on the mic (big up YO self!) 9:30 @ JUSTICE LEAGUE, 628 DIVISADERO (@ HAYES) SF sorry, 21+up much respect to those who came out last week, remember if i took your name cause you are on a free list!!! :D all others pay ca$h!!!!! yeehaw! the next BSP which you'll hear more about as the week moves on... Friday June 4th @ the bassment 1015 Folsom (SF/21+up) D S C I 4 R E C O R D S 1 9 9 9 L A B E L L A U N C H T O U R this legendary session will consist of three of the Tech Step sound originators dropping some serious lessons on the unsuspecting masses... F I E R C E T R A C E M C R Y M E T Y M E Local Phunckateck member Jason Mouse will be opening up the night hosted by Eklektic and Groundscore i didn't write all that, but i will be there with bells on and happily promote it. fierce was simply amazing in miami at the winter music conference. i had already been dancing for about 3 1/2 hours when he came on and i got this jolt of energy like when you hear that dinging signal that means you get an extra chick in ms. pac man. great schtuff. ok, now i'm a-sleepy. i can tell because max's voice is slowly leaving my head. that boy has a story for everything! my pal. love & peace in abundance, shida (mc angel) p.s. listen out for me singing at eklektic on 6/10 with arc angel gabe real. talk about pure audible love. and, this summer, on green label 008 "NOEL featuring MC ANGEL" yeauuuuuhhhh! again, i say unto thee, YEEEHAW! (psst...go to phunktion...ya bums!) quote o' the moment: "i feel warm rain running down my face, i embrace all the love that lies around me, i feel no shame, nothing to erase, i wouldn't change a single day that lies before me." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 31 16:34:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20217 invoked by uid 6000); 31 May 1999 16:34:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 20209 invoked from network); 31 May 1999 16:34:16 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 May 1999 16:34:16 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.230] (libya-230.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.230]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14274; Mon, 31 May 1999 09:34:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 09:43:41 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: Quote of the Day June 1999 coming 01 June Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Saddle up. Lock and load. And prepare for some really special quotes between Memorial Day and Labour Day. Have a fun holiday! ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 31 17:38:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10391 invoked by uid 6000); 31 May 1999 17:38:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 10382 invoked from network); 31 May 1999 17:38:05 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd113.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.177) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 May 1999 17:38:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 57791 invoked by uid 0); 31 May 1999 17:37:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19990531173739.57790.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.15.121.122 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 31 May 1999 10:37:38 PDT X-Originating-IP: [216.15.121.122] From: "cassandra thomas" To: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com, kandykid4@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: !! WHAT! SF Scene VS Hawaii Scene Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 10:37:38 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk one, i would have to ask what islands are we talking about. Big island is different than say partying on oahu. Two, I have trouble understanding how your say two week vacation there equates with someone who lived there. true, if you are going to vacation there sure party. But after spending sometime there with my boyfriend who grew up there, I can tell you that socially hawaii has a lot of the associated problems that isolated rural communities in a struggling economy have. I can see how someone who has moved to s.f. from there would find it scary after returning. It can be a real hard place to grow up if you don't fit in cause it is so damn small. -cass >From: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com >To: kandykid4@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: !! WHAT! SF Scene VS Hawaii Scene >Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 02:23:36 EDT > >kandykid4@hotmail.com writes, ><> > >UMMMMMM don't bitch about livin in Hawaii...that is one of the most beautiful >places on Earth. I had the privilege of partying there (Honululu, HI) during >spring break and had an extremely good time. I saw some good house dj's and >people were friendly to me. I have been partying in SF for two and a half >years now, and yes Hawaii scene is a lot different, but it's also pretty new. >It seems like it is still growing, and just because it is not at the same >scale as SF doesn't mean that it is horrible like you say it is. The beauty >about different places is having a different type of scene. How dull would it >be to have the same kind of scene wherever you went! > >Besides, Hawaii is a lot smaller than the Bay Area so of course the party >scene is not going to be as full scale...that's kinda cool in a way because >the scene is growing, and I think that would be cool to be part of the >evolution. > >SooO people when in Hawaii...DO check out the scene, it's pretty cool. =*) > >-=~*LaUrE@*~=- > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 31 18:42:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29885 invoked by uid 6000); 31 May 1999 18:42:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 29874 invoked from network); 31 May 1999 18:42:09 -0000 Received: from eclipse.keyscape.net (HELO keyscape.net) (root@199.233.198.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 May 1999 18:42:09 -0000 Received: from moe (modem106.offcampus.calpoly.edu [129.65.100.106]) by keyscape.net (8.8.8/Keyscape.1) with SMTP id LAA15623 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 11:42:02 -0700 Message-ID: <001b01beab94$f2301720$6a644181@moe.calpoly.edu> From: "meeks" To: Subject: meeks sample mp3 (bsp) duh ..boomit inya boomit inya boomit in ya jeep.... Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 11:39:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey people... I wanna give out an advert for http://www.keyscape.net/~meeks/ yes this is my site...BSP if any of you aurally curious folks could attend that site.. click on "simple.mp3" and give me a shot back on the workings of that...i would appreciate=) wind up your 3day in the best ways meeks From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 31 20:22:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7272 invoked by uid 6000); 31 May 1999 20:22:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 7071 invoked from network); 31 May 1999 20:22:10 -0000 Received: from web507.yahoomail.com (128.11.68.74) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 May 1999 20:22:10 -0000 Message-ID: <19990531202303.23437.rocketmail@web507.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.239.210.106] by web507.yahoomail.com; Mon, 31 May 1999 13:23:03 PDT Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 13:23:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "Holly G." Subject: Re: my morning (IMPORTANT please read) To: Pogobee@aol.com, binary_fineboy@iname.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ryan, I read this and it sent chills down my spine. I'm glad to hear you and your best friend are all right. Your story reminds me to be thankful for being alive. blessed be, holly g. --- Pogobee@aol.com wrote: > ryan, > > i'm just very glad you and jay survived such an > ordeal. i would have been > tossed into a great depression if i lost you two. > angels must be watching > over you guys. :) > > -- pogobee - the everthankful > > > In a message dated 99-05-30 23:16:24 EDT, > binary_fineboy@iname.com writes: > > << this morning my best friend and I were almost > killed by a kid coming home > from metropolis. We were driving down 880 on our > way home from Origin and I > saw a car coming up behind me. I was goin about 70 > .. he was probably going > 100. I thought he would change lanes or break but > he just kept getting > closer. By the time I could see in my rear view > mirror he was sound asleep > it was too late. I tried to swerve out of the way > but he hit me from behind > at about 100 miles an hour, sending me spinning out > of control off the > freeway, down an embankment, through a fence, > rolled, hit a tree, rolled a > few more times and finally stopped about 50 feet > down in a parking for some > office building off the freeway. The rest is > pretty much a miracle ... when > the car stopped I turned to my best friend who was > in the passenger seat, he > asked me if I was ok. I said yeah, we hugged then > opened the doors and > walked away. We are both bruised and have some > stiches from the broken glass > but besides that we are both fine. My car is > completely destroyed, when the > paramedics got there they looked at us and said "You > guys walked away from > THAT? Damn you are gonna be poster children for > seatbelts." >> > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 31 21:25:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5059 invoked by uid 6000); 31 May 1999 21:25:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 5046 invoked from network); 31 May 1999 21:25:47 -0000 Received: from law2-f182.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.182) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 May 1999 21:25:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 90134 invoked by uid 0); 31 May 1999 21:25:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19990531212520.90133.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.171.33.69 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 31 May 1999 14:25:17 PDT X-Originating-IP: [128.171.33.69] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: ontogenesis_ca@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: !! WHAT! SF Scene VS Hawaii Scene Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 14:25:17 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >one, i would have to ask what islands are we talking about. Big island is different than say partying on oahu. i'm on oahu. and yes it is different partying on each different island. last summer i flew to maui for one night to see my friends spin at a party and it was COMPLETELY different from parties that i had been to on oahu. >Two, I have trouble understanding how your say two week vacation there equates with someone who lived there. i grew up in hawaii. i was born and raised here. i lived here my entire life up until august last year. i know about all the problems that hawaii has. i was in the center of it all. my two week vacation doesn't not compare AT ALL to me living here, and it's completely different if i go for a vacation rather than someone else hasn't lived here. for one, i'm living in the house that i grew up in, not a hotel. i drive my parent's car, not a rented car. i eat dinner with my parents every night, not out at a restaurant every night. i don't go around seeing the sights of the island, because i've already seen the a thousand times when i was a kid. and i certainly don't go out to the clubs and raves without a sense of this is where my friends are, this is where i started partying, and, in a way, this is my home. my stay here in hawaii is totally different than any of the other kids that have been emailing me back saying that they're going to hawaii for a week or so and want to know where the parties are going to be at. these kids can go to parties and not be part of all the mindless bullshit that comes with knowing the people that i do. they don't have to deal with a set reputation and idea everyone has of who you're supposed to be. they don't have to deal with having everyone asking you if you have E, even though you haven't been there for the past 9 months, because they remember that you used to be their hook-up. it's things like this that make me wish that no one here knew me, so i could just enjoy my vacation, without going to parties and being hassled all the time. i consider those people that have the privilage to vacation here lucky. i don't consider myself to be one of those lucky people. instead, i consider myself one that is visiting their home. many people, after living away from home for a while, find that it is hard to go home. i find it more than hard. i NEVER want to go home again. it's just an awful conicidene that by saying that i never want to go home, means that i'm never going to get to go to hawaii again. hawaii doesn't have the same splendor appeal on me as it does to everyone else. when i think of hawaii, i'm left with bad memories that i don't ever want to relive. >It can be a real hard place to grow up if you don't fit in cause it is so damn small. it can be a hard place to live, period. i totally fit in. i, and i don't mean to sound narssasistic, was the center of the popularity circle in the party scene. unfortunately, this popularity came with a price, sex drugs & rock'n'roll. even though everyone in the scene knew me and loved me, i was struggling to survive in all aspects, mentally, emotionally, physically, spiritually. last summer, when i was in the height of my "popularity" (i hate using that word, it makes me feel like a bitch. hehehhe...), i was just about dying. thank god i moved away and was able to get well again. hawaii was difficult. it's difficult for everyone. ok, this is a little too much seriousness for me to handle right now. it's a beautiful day today, and i think i might actually want to enjoy these last few days i have left here. i'm going to the beach! love lia From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 31 21:39:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12833 invoked by uid 6000); 31 May 1999 21:39:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 12816 invoked from network); 31 May 1999 21:39:27 -0000 Received: from diana.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.239) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 May 1999 21:39:27 -0000 Received: from [130.212.201.145] (madmax-145.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.145]) by diana.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA11847 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 14:37:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 14:39:01 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Sarah Backes Subject: Hey whats up Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey everyone, I am new to this list and I just wanted to say whats up! I am 20, living in San Francisco and I go to SF State. So Did anyone out there go to Metropolis the other night, May 29?? It was a great Party. Id love to hear everyones reactions to it! Sarah :-) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 31 21:40:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13521 invoked by uid 6000); 31 May 1999 21:40:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 13513 invoked from network); 31 May 1999 21:40:22 -0000 Received: from web1001.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.91) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 May 1999 21:40:22 -0000 Message-ID: <19990531213923.16367.rocketmail@web1001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.188.197.54] by web1001.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 31 May 1999 14:39:23 PDT Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 14:39:23 -0700 (PDT) From: tyler mcnesby Subject: Sunday Night watchmen To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Sunday night the full moon bright came and went For those of you who were kind enough to join me at Man in the Moon last night I hope you had a great time and to all the candy kids who told me how much they liked my monkey (don't ask) i wanna say your all hellza sweet and you get kissees from me :) Lets see i met a bunch of kids but i can not remember most of their names. I did meet Cristina and we traded candy and she was so sweet and we are gonna chill together now and I met Jessica, the first girl I've kissed in 4 years (tripy not kissing a guy for once) and Pablo, Shandi, Justin, Dustin, Kary and her lil bro Andrew. You all made my night awesome Got to see Shanon, Lee, Miller, Steven, Ryan (who i hope is feeling better today after his accident) Jeremy, and Noah. Peeps i havent seen in a while and I miss em. Well for those of you who didn't go, bitterness. It went off. Aside from standing outside in line for hours cause some dealer got busted from what i heard, once we got in it was dope. Dj "D" was the Dj I had most wanted to see last night and i did :) She was spinin supreme as usual. God damn she is good. The lights and decor were awesome. Peeps hella loved my squirt gun too. I guess it was a welcome relief to the hot humid dance atomsphere. everybody wanted a squirt but i was running outta water fast!! Whats a boy to do shit!?! Only damper was hearing what happened to Ryan and Jay. Everybody try and make them feel better by emailing them to wish them well. I know they will love the attention Well hope your all having a good memorial day. get out side its sunny and nice and all that lates ~Monkeyboy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 31 21:59:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20609 invoked by uid 6000); 31 May 1999 21:59:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 20590 invoked from network); 31 May 1999 21:59:13 -0000 Received: from dns1.transbay.net (HELO transbay.net) (noel@209.133.53.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 May 1999 21:59:13 -0000 Received: (from noel@localhost) by transbay.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) id PAA11365 for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Mon, 31 May 1999 15:08:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noel) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 15:08:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Noel Keen Message-Id: <199905312208.PAA11365@transbay.net> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: other lists? Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hi, i've heard there are other email list in the bay area besides sfraves and wuz wondering if someone could point me to some info? i'm interested in jungle and/or HH communities. i'm also interested in ambient music discussion -- not necessarily only in the bay area. any help? thanks, noel From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 31 22:45:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13867 invoked by uid 6000); 31 May 1999 22:45:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 13852 invoked from network); 31 May 1999 22:45:43 -0000 Received: from ecf2.puc.edu (root@12.16.216.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 May 1999 22:45:43 -0000 Received: from golemn ([12.16.216.202]) by ecf2.puc.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id PAA03751 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 15:45:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <002b01beabb7$14961ea0$ccf0a8c0@golemn> From: "Brad Ivey" To: Subject: Re: other lists? Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 15:44:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/rml/ is a list of rave forums for your enjoyment -----Original Message----- From: Noel Keen To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Monday, May 31, 1999 2:59 PM Subject: other lists? > >hi, i've heard there are other email list in the bay area besides >sfraves and wuz wondering if someone could point me to some info? >i'm interested in jungle and/or HH communities. > >i'm also interested in ambient music discussion -- not necessarily >only in the bay area. any help? > >thanks, > >noel > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon May 31 22:51:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17340 invoked by uid 6000); 31 May 1999 22:51:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 17325 invoked from network); 31 May 1999 22:51:27 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 May 1999 22:51:27 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (BayArea56k578.NetWiz.Net [208.164.208.178]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA32219; Mon, 31 May 1999 15:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905312251.PAA32219@mail.netwiz.net> To: "San FranDisco Ravers List" , groovi-randoms@netwiz.net Subject: Nrr: bandersnatch Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 15:51:54 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The Word of the Day for May 14 is: bandersnatch \BAN-duhr-snach\ (noun) : a wildly grotesque or bizarre individual Example sentence: In 1995, Peter Bronson of the _Cincinnati Enquirer_ dubbed House Majority Leader Dick Armey the "frumious Bandersnatch of tax liberation." Did you know? You may already know that "jabberwocky," a term for meaningless speech or writing, originated as the title of a nonsense poem in Lewis Carroll's _Through the Looking Glass_. "Bandersnatch" is another coinage by the author whose real name was Charles Lutwidge Dodgson. It debuted in the second stanza of the "Jabberwocky": "Beware the Jabberwock, my son! / The jaws that bite, the claws that catch! / Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun / The frumious Bandersnatch!" Carroll also used "bandersnatch" in other works and in his personal correspondence ("No one ever influenced Tolkien -- you might as well try to influence a bandersnatch"). Nowadays, it identifies any fabulously strange character, especially one who moves with exceptional speed or is impervious to persuasion. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jun 01 00:00:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10819 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Jun 1999 00:00:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 10807 invoked from network); 1 Jun 1999 00:00:07 -0000 Received: from web209.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.109) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 1999 00:00:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19990601000318.27323.rocketmail@web209.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.72.1.187] by web209.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 31 May 1999 17:03:17 PDT Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 17:03:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Jean-Baptiste Laplace Subject: Saturday night Rave North of SF on Hwy 1 To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey, I went to a small outdoor party this weekend North of San Francisco, somewhere on Hwy 1 and it was really cool. It was very small not a lot of people but it was SO NICE. I really liked the setting. I don't know who brought up this party but THANKS !! that's the way to go. If the weather had been on our side it could have been even better. I also want to say hello to that girl my friend (Jimmy) and I meet on the beach, it was really nice talking to you. I think her "name" was Verity or Destiny I don't quiet remenber. C-U JB From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jun 01 00:31:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22623 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Jun 1999 00:31:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 22610 invoked from network); 1 Jun 1999 00:31:20 -0000 Received: from law-f68.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.131) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 1999 00:31:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 53166 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 1999 00:30:53 -0000 Message-ID: <19990601003053.53165.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.216.189 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 31 May 1999 17:30:52 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.216.189] From: "K Gray" To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Subject: Fairies Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 17:30:52 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk My Scottish husband was dancing next to a girl at Origin: "I like your wings," he acknowledged. "Thanks!" she replied, "Are you from Ireland?" "No, Scotland," he admitted. "Aren't fairies from Ireland and Scotland?" she asked. "Most of them are in Ireland, but there are some in Scotland because we are both celtic nations." he explained. "Aren't there forests where the fairies live?" she wondered. "There are, but I haven't actually been to them." "Maybe I'll visit them sometime," she hoped. "Maybe you will," he agreed. Then they danced for awhile. Peace, K From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jun 01 00:47:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1684 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Jun 1999 00:47:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 1675 invoked from network); 1 Jun 1999 00:47:09 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 1999 00:47:09 -0000 Received: from WizardCCCA@aol.com (14423) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vWVQa15563 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 20:46:34 -0400 (EDT) From: WizardCCCA@aol.com Message-ID: <19c60249.2484876a@aol.com> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 20:46:34 EDT Subject: Fwd: FW: [mtn-raves] NEVERLAND e-flyer!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_19c60249.2484876a_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_19c60249.2484876a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_19c60249.2484876a_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-zb04.mx.aol.com (rly-zb04.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.4]) by air-zb04.mail.aol.com (v59.24) with SMTP; Mon, 31 May 1999 20:45:45 -0400 Received: from tikki.cc.colorado.edu (tikki.ColoradoCollege.edu [205.170.0.3]) by rly-zb04.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id UAA03247 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 20:45:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exchange1.ColoradoCollege.edu (exchange1.ColoradoCollege.edu [205.170.0.15]) by ColoradoCollege.edu (PMDF V5.2-31 #34557) with ESMTP id <01JBUVKW2V0G8X2ZS6@ColoradoCollege.edu> for WizardCCCA@aol.com; Mon, 31 May 1999 18:46:50 MST Received: from [205.149.162.203] (chong.vip.best.com [205.149.162.203]) by exchange1.ColoradoCollege.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id J1VW7JYP; Mon, 31 May 1999 18:45:40 -0600 Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 18:48:30 -0600 From: Liz Chong Subject: FW: [mtn-raves] NEVERLAND e-flyer!!! To: WizardCCCA@aol.com Message-id: <01JBUVKW38768X2ZS6@ColoradoCollege.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 -- Life is a waste of time, time is a waste of life, so get wasted all of the time and have the time of your life. * Anonymous ---------- From: Chris Adams To: richard.shebestak@mail.sprint.com, TrAnCeKiDd@aol.com, mtn ravers , rollinwitda303@egroups.com, az-raves@azraves.org, Hard and Happy , scr@socal-raves.org, utr@beyond-vision.com, utahraves@hyperreal.org, mo-raves@hyperreal.org, mw-raves@hyperreal.org, sd-raves@party.net Subject: [mtn-raves] NEVERLAND e-flyer!!! Date: Mon, May 31, 1999, 5:58 PM THIS IS THE E-FLYER FOR NEVERLAND... PLEASE FORWARD IT TO ALL THE LISTS AND PEOPLE YOU THINK WOULD BE INTERESTED: NEVERLAND ~ DENVER, CO ~ JUNE 26th & 27th 50 ACTS.... 26 Hours Long....3 stages... 6 rooms + Covered Outdoor Area....... 100 % LEGAL, BUST FREE GOING TILL THE MUSIC STOPS LOCATION.... + Decorations, projections, and lights that will transform the warehouse into NeverLand..... + FREE water, food, candy, and glowsticks ALL night long for EVERYONE..... + 150 Mixtape & 100 NeverLand T-Shirt Giveaway at midnight....... + MC Competition for $100 cash..... + Backpacks, candy, cameras, vicks, dustmasks, wallet chains, cigarettes, and toys are ALL WELCOME AND WILL BE ALLOWED IN..... + 10 hour long FREE after party @ separate venue which includes a fruitbar, hot tub, pool, and 10 more dj sets for your listening pleasure..... DJS/PAS/MCS.... R.A.W. - bringing us a very special ALL old skool techno set!!! - LA, CA 3D - Jungle - Chicago, Illinois LIQUID 22 - LIVE TRANCE PA!!! NEVER SEEN BEFORE 1st COLORADO APPEARANCE!!! - Pasadena, TX MARTY MCFLY - Phunky Breaks - Strait from the Toronto Massives, this Hullabaloo Resident is going to make you shake your ASS!!! - Toronto, Canada CLOUDSKIPPER - Happy Hardcore - LA, CA ECSPANSION - Live Trance PA - NM DREAMGIRL featuring A LIVE DIVA!!!!! - Happy Hardcore - AZ DMX - House - Denver, CO SHAHZAD - Trance - Denver, CO 3 X 4 featuring J-$UAVE, DIZABLE, and JiGoD featuring MC VICIOUSONE - Jungle - Denver, CO JONATHAN - Jungle, D&B, and Trance - Ft Collins, CO NOAHPHEX - Happy Hardcore - Austin, TX DAN-E - House & Breaks - Grand Junction, CO 2 X 2 featuring DAISHO & DAE - JUMP-UP - Colorado Springs, CO INTENSITY - Happy Hardcore - AZ JUSTIN OBRIEN - Trance - NM SEBASTIAN WOLFE - Hard Tek House - AZ RAZOR FM - Hard Trance - Denver, CO LOIC XION - Progressive Acid Trance - Boulder, CO DJ MOH - Progressive - Denver, CO EROKS - Breaks - Denver, CO KEVIN CRAFTS - Techno - Colorado Springs, CO DEADLY BUDA - Hardcore - Denver, CO CONSCIENCE - D&B - Fort Collins, CO LOVE - Funky Acid House - Denver, CO FIKTION - Minimal Techno - Fort Collins, CO DAMON - Disco House - Denver, CO BOY WONDER - Everything - Kansas City, MO SOUND SHOCK - Old Skool - Denver, CO JACKELOPE - Hard Tek House - Fort Collins, CO JOEY M - Speed Garage - Denver, CO MAD WAX - Old Skool - Denver, CO DJ ETC - Hip Hop for the MC Competition - Denver, CO + 1 Special Guest TBA!!!! There will be a canned food drive and a toy drive for the American Red Cross at the gateway to NeverLand, so please bring a donation!!! It is a wonderful feeling to give!!! This Party is limited to 1,000 in attendance... once we sell out of tix, that's it! NO TIX will be sold the day of, the night of, or at the door! You will HAVE to have a pre-purchased ticket to enter NeverLand! Tickets for NeverLand are $30 and can be purchased from an Oracle Family Member; in Colorado @ Hotty in Denver, @ Toonz in Colorado Springs, @ Cold Cuts in Fort Collins, and @ the Root in Boulder. For those of you out of Colorado, those of you that can't make it to one of the above stores, or those of you that don't know an Oracle family member, but would like to come to NeverLand can e-mail us directly for tix @ candeofo@earthlink.net IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, OR COMMENTS, WOULD LIKE HOTEL INFO, OR JUST WANT TO GIVE US A SHOUT FEEL FREE TO EMAIL US @ candeofo@earthlink.net --part1_19c60249.2484876a_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jun 01 00:54:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5662 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Jun 1999 00:54:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 5652 invoked from network); 1 Jun 1999 00:54:07 -0000 Received: from law-f160.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.223) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 1999 00:54:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 85664 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 1999 00:53:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990601005308.85663.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.216.189 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 31 May 1999 17:53:07 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.216.189] From: "K Gray" To: WizardCCCA@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Fwd: FW: [mtn-raves] NEVERLAND e-flyer!!! Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 17:53:07 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Wow. You sent out an e-flyer for an event with only a 1,000 person capacity? What a waste of bandwidth. But it's cool to see what type of events happen in other parts of the world. Good luck, K From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jun 01 01:03:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11832 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Jun 1999 01:03:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 11824 invoked from network); 1 Jun 1999 01:03:17 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 1999 01:03:17 -0000 Received: from WizardCCCA@aol.com (14423) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iZVUa02575; Mon, 31 May 1999 21:01:51 -0400 (EDT) From: WizardCCCA@aol.com Message-ID: <8716a626.24848afc@aol.com> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 21:01:48 EDT Subject: Re: FW: [mtn-raves] NEVERLAND e-flyer!!! To: kehgray@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk If you can make it out there though, it is going to be tight!!!! And they are saving something like 300 spaces for out of state people and you can get a ticket reserved if you email Chris about it.... just a thought.... Liz From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jun 01 01:13:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15699 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Jun 1999 01:13:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 15691 invoked from network); 1 Jun 1999 01:13:18 -0000 Received: from law-f242.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.207) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 1999 01:13:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 46607 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 1999 01:12:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990601011251.46606.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.220.19 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 31 May 1999 18:12:50 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.220.19] From: "Leo Walker" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: TACKY MAN IN THE MOON KIDS Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 18:12:50 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok like i know i always get bashed when i post something on SFR but i could give a crap. ok how tacky was that party. and of course me LEO always pays to go just cos i have to see what's it like. but i mean kids there were so rude. ok like two people pushed me purposely like really hard and i had to put them in their place. i'm tired of all you little 12 yr old kids coming in and acting like you have to have some attitude. i mean i have attitude but i don't just be pushing people around and crap. that is rude. i swear i almost had to go off and hit someone. and ok how many of these parties do we have to have i mean hello same DJs and sets and same place. same amount which is not even worth paying to go to that space. and your bouncers suck. saying it's over capacity so they can make people outside that want to get in to pay them 5 bucks to get in. i mean if it was over capacity the people collecting the tickets and money wouldn't let us in either. bull crap. and then paying a dollar for some janky tap water with ice in a cup you can get anywhere else for free. please. that's the last time i go to some tacky little cheap set up party that's all unorganized. so tacked. LeO From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jun 01 01:30:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22733 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Jun 1999 01:30:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 22713 invoked from network); 1 Jun 1999 01:30:17 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 1999 01:30:17 -0000 Received: from Casper40oz@aol.com (7823) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vKELa02576 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 21:29:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Casper40oz@aol.com Message-ID: <41050fd6.24849187@aol.com> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 21:29:43 EDT Subject: What Up everyone! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey there all you fellow ravers and club kidds, I would also just like to say whats up to everyone on the List i am also=20 new to the list..I am 16 years old born in san jose cali But live in Tucson=20 Az im in san jose for the summer living with my father and really hope to=20 expeirence some Nice raves out here ive been to many in Az but none in kali=20 im totally excited! well peace everyone James *J* *casper* P*L*U*R* anyone wanna chat about upcomming events or are interested in the az scene=20 mail me =3D=DE~ peace From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jun 01 01:37:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25126 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Jun 1999 01:37:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 25115 invoked from network); 1 Jun 1999 01:37:39 -0000 Received: from wet.dreamscape.org (HELO dreamscape.org) (kait@204.189.52.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 1999 01:37:39 -0000 Received: from localhost (kait@localhost) by dreamscape.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA14007 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 18:32:01 -0700 Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 18:32:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kaitlin R. Silver" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: la la la! pictures from metropolis??? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk did anyone get photos from metropolis scanned in? i'd love to see more after-review from that party :):) -kaytee . . Kaitlin R. Silver, Dreamscape Creations (dSC). dsc/uti99! ' `.' `- mail: kait@dreamscape.org ---------"beyond the illusion."-. ` ' work: krs@microsoft.com w3: http://dreamscape.org | |` ' work2: kait@hotmail.com p.w3: http://illusion.org | `-`.'-- epage: kaitpgr@dreamscape.org --pgp: 0xe8da4b17/0x2523bb4e-' From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jun 01 02:00:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3741 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Jun 1999 02:00:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 3567 invoked from network); 1 Jun 1999 02:00:50 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 1999 02:00:50 -0000 Received: from SkaPnkGurl@aol.com (579) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3KYKa02604 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 21:58:56 -0400 (EDT) From: SkaPnkGurl@aol.com Message-ID: <32ff10df.2484985d@aol.com> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 21:58:53 EDT Subject: New to the scene.... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey all wassup? I am 19 and I am up here in Frisco for the summer, from LA and definitely want to check out the scene, cuz I might be staying here permanently. Anyways, I just wanted to say what's up!! Oh and if you have any ideas pass em by me :-) Late! Jenn From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jun 01 02:10:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9218 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Jun 1999 02:10:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 9209 invoked from network); 1 Jun 1999 02:10:56 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 1999 02:10:56 -0000 Received: from Kandehata@aol.com (3934) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iOEEa29725; Mon, 31 May 1999 22:07:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Kandehata@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 22:06:54 EDT Subject: Re: TACKY MAN IN THE MOON KIDS To: leodrava69@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk MR LEO! ok uummm did u not know that, that party was going to be 75% cheese??? and to add it on top of that U WENT ANYWAY!!!!!! smart people would have went and parties at full moon!!! right? i dont think that u should be posting that kind of junk on SFR!! u knew EXACTLY how the party was going to be but yet, what did u do? u went anyways......sheeeeeeesh! and to think people would learn after the 96 man in the moon the had back in february...this was what? man in the moon 97??? thas all leo, a From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jun 01 02:44:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23065 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Jun 1999 02:44:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 23055 invoked from network); 1 Jun 1999 02:44:51 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 1999 02:44:51 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (4245) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id xTQUa26412; Mon, 31 May 1999 22:43:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 22:43:09 EDT Subject: BREAKBEAT 'ARDCORE MASSIF:old skool jungle revival movement To: sf-jungle@saturn5.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well since there is never any action on the lists anymore i said to myself ..."fuck it, i feel like starting up a subject to talk about." so how many of u guys have heard of UK HARDCORE? for some of the younger folk uk hardcore isnt like hardcore u would normally hear about but much more like breakbeats on the uk tip. not funky florida breakz but the Moving Shadow type bombscare breakz. this is the early style of jungle/drum and bass that created the foundation to a future music which still has a destination unknown. from the Renegade Snares to the Terminator its always been a mystery to me what a hardcore party would sound like and feel like. even though it was much more slower than jungle is now its got that flava that jungle lost thru the years. sometimes i thought to myself that those 45 rpm pitched samples of female vocals were cheesy but when i hear them now i get that tinglin feelin down my spine about the old days...oh i wish i was back there... Well here is my point... anyone out there have any feelings on the UK hardcore stylee? also do any of u rave promoters think u might have an old school jungle room or old school nite at a club(like density or eklectic...HINT) any time soon? its time to let the massive know about the roots of jungle. i need some ejimication on some old school jungle too so tell us what the deallEE iz. dont keep it private unless nessessary..share your thoughts people. DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jun 01 02:48:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25325 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Jun 1999 02:48:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 25315 invoked from network); 1 Jun 1999 02:48:37 -0000 Received: from uhura.concentric.net (206.173.118.93) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 1999 02:48:37 -0000 Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id WAA28294; Mon, 31 May 1999 22:44:36 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from greebish (ts015d42.sjc-ca.concentric.net [206.173.236.246]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id WAA21042; Mon, 31 May 1999 22:48:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990531194539.009897b0@post.net> X-Sender: sean@post.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 19:46:28 -0700 To: "Leo Walker" , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Sean Casey Subject: Re: TACKY MAN IN THE MOON KIDS In-Reply-To: <19990601011251.46606.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That's why some of us started throwing our own. Try it. It works :). Really!!! Sean From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jun 01 02:58:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1421 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Jun 1999 02:58:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 1391 invoked from network); 1 Jun 1999 02:57:56 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 1999 02:57:56 -0000 Received: from Dayraver@aol.com (14437) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vVATa15563 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 22:57:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Dayraver@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 22:57:23 EDT Subject: I found family at Full Moon. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It's true, Full Moon was the shiiiiiit, cold but you know what, I knew it would be before I went so it's all good. Thanks and a huge group hug to everyone that went and made that a very memorable full moon. You might not have been able to tell, cuz I hardly said a word (not cuz I'm rude, just knew that my trip was really intense and didn't want to grate anyone else's mellow vibe, that plus being verbal is pretty hard when you can barely speak), but everyone's smiles and positive energy and understanding that it must have been something he ate made me feel very, how can I put it, "Welcomed Back" and encouraged to have a great time even if it was only in my head. Believe me it would take more than just a couple sentences to describe, in fact I don't even think words could do it justice, I mean I wasn't speaking, but how did you people know? I felt so connected to everyone it was almost telepathic, c'mon all you people that were groovin with me near the left speaker know what I'm talking about, I was the guy with the jeans and the unzipped gray hooded sweatshirt. It would just amaze me, don't know if it was coincidence or just being aware, but people had me believing that they were reading my thoughts, that we were all sharing one emotion. It was wall to wall PLUR and that's the way it should be. You know, I forgot to look at my watch so I can't remember what time dude was spinning, but that one song with the "You got to believe!" that whole set was tight, who was that? And another thing, you guys made me so proud to be a raver last night....during the night I had misplaced my "goodie" bag full of some very enjoyable stuff and by the end of the night it was still there, experience has conditioned me so that normally I wouldn't have even bothered to look and would have just called it a lost, but you folks last night really restored my faith in ravers and the scene we all love. My only down side about last night was that I really wished I saw some particular people there, Full Moon was absolute PLUR in effect, Nate bro where were you? Being tired is no excuse, I was there, sore but I was there and I really needed my best friend there. Oh well, I don't want to hear ANY argument or complaining when I drag you to the next one, I'm just sorry you missed THIS one. Thanks to everyone for helping me celebrate the start of my summer. Big cheezy grin, Dayraver Adam =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jun 01 04:24:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3273 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Jun 1999 04:24:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 3260 invoked from network); 1 Jun 1999 04:24:06 -0000 Received: from web301.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.183) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 1999 04:24:06 -0000 Message-ID: <19990601042837.6250.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.179.143.22] by web301.yahoomail.com; Mon, 31 May 1999 21:28:37 PDT Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 21:28:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Miss E Subject: Re: BREAKBEAT 'ARDCORE MASSIF:old skool jungle revival movement To: Megatron45@aol.com, sf-jungle@saturn5.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Word UP! My brotha Mike, you know what you're talkin' about and you share the same feeling as many do now about the revival of the old skool sound, the hardcore vibe. Have you heard the Rufige Kru/Goldie's new track "Ark Angel"?? Or that new stuff coming out on Ivory? Can I get a REWIND????????? Rob Playford and TeeBee wouldn't stop talking about it while they were here in town. Everybody wants more!!! ((Back 2 it)) "IF YOU MAKE BEATS MAKE BREAKBEATS" Respect to the Spectrum... EZ, E http://www.izmedia.com/eklektic http://www.izmedia.com/futurebreaks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- Megatron45@aol.com wrote: > so how many of u guys have heard of UK HARDCORE? > for some of the younger folk uk hardcore isnt like > hardcore u would normally > hear about but much more like breakbeats on the uk > tip. not funky florida > breakz but the Moving Shadow type bombscare breakz. > this is the early style of jungle/drum and bass that > created the foundation > to a future music which still has a destination > unknown. from the Renegade > Snares to the Terminator its always been a mystery > to me what a hardcore > party would sound like and feel like. even though it > was much more slower > than jungle is now its got that flava that jungle > lost thru the years. > sometimes i thought to myself that those 45 rpm > pitched samples of female > vocals were cheesy but when i hear them now i get > that tinglin feelin down my > spine about the old days...oh i wish i was back > there... > > Well here is my point... > > anyone out there have any feelings on the UK > hardcore stylee? also do any of > u rave promoters think u might have an old school > jungle room or old school > nite at a club(like density or eklectic...HINT) any > time soon? its time to > let the massive know about the roots of jungle. i > need some ejimication on > some old school jungle too so tell us what the > deallEE iz. dont keep it > private unless nessessary..share your thoughts > people. > > DJMEGATRON:mechasoul > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jun 01 04:35:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8521 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Jun 1999 04:35:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 8374 invoked from network); 1 Jun 1999 04:35:02 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 1999 04:35:02 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com (3951) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vVQKa21338; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 00:34:25 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: <48b6f25d.2484bcd0@aol.com> Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 00:34:24 EDT Subject: Re: BREAKBEAT 'ARDCORE MASSIF:old skool jungle revival movement To: Megatron45@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 99-05-31 22:45:12 EDT, you write: << so how many of u guys have heard of UK HARDCORE? >> WOO.. takin me back to my roots! 'ardcore...you know the score! <3 Ambah From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jun 01 04:54:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20158 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Jun 1999 04:54:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 20150 invoked from network); 1 Jun 1999 04:54:23 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?5/mHleqQXRKWckDR9XFpi2fZX918Vx9o?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 1999 04:54:23 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id VAA23946; Mon, 31 May 1999 21:54:21 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 21:54:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: JUNGurlE@aol.com cc: Megatron45@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: BREAKBEAT 'ARDCORE MASSIF:old skool jungle revival movement In-Reply-To: <48b6f25d.2484bcd0@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Method One and DJ Kaos have NUF hardcore. The three of us have been talking a lot about having either a 91-94 hardcore barbeque or finding a promoter that will let us BRING IN THE HISTORY. CHAMPION SOUND RULE MY WORLD. CHAMPION SOUND. CHAMPION SOUND RULE MY WORLD. CHAMPION SOUND oh gosh! 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jun 01 04:59:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22012 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Jun 1999 04:59:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 21998 invoked from network); 1 Jun 1999 04:59:29 -0000 Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (206.253.129.185) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 1999 04:59:29 -0000 Received: from canuck (dynamic18.pm07.mv.best.com [209.24.241.146]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id AAA29986 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 00:58:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <011b01beabeb$4be64900$92f118d1@canuck> From: "ry-N" To: Subject: pics from when I was hit by a tacky crackhead raver Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 21:57:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0118_01BEABB0.9DF49C00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0118_01BEABB0.9DF49C00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable anyways ... following my post yesterday about the kid who fell asleep on = his way home from metropolis ... here are some pics of whats left of my car ... http://members.aol.com/bossels/crash1.jpg http://members.aol.com/bossels/crash2.jpg http://members.aol.com/bossels/crash3.jpg like I said ... somehow me and jason just walked away from that ... I = guess we got good carma (haha get it?) or something. ryan ------=_NextPart_000_0118_01BEABB0.9DF49C00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
anyways ... following my post = yesterday about=20 the kid who fell asleep on his way home from metropolis ...
 
here are some pics of whats left of = my car=20 ...
 
http://members.aol.com= /bossels/crash1.jpg
 
http://members.aol.com= /bossels/crash2.jpg
 
 
http://members.aol.com= /bossels/crash3.jpg
 
like I said ... somehow me and jason = just walked=20 away from that ... I guess we got good carma (haha get it?) or=20 something.
 
ryan
------=_NextPart_000_0118_01BEABB0.9DF49C00-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jun 01 05:56:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11465 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Jun 1999 05:56:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 11456 invoked from network); 1 Jun 1999 05:56:32 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 1999 05:56:32 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (8042) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rLFFa05857; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 01:54:43 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <8891ff65.2484cfa3@aol.com> Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 01:54:43 EDT Subject: Re: pics from when I was hit by a tacky crackhead raver To: binary_fineboy@iname.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Bro you walked away from that????? you must have a higher pwoer watchin over ya binary_fineboy@iname.com writes: << http://members.aol.com/bossels/crash2.jpg http://members.aol.com/bossels/crash3.jpg >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jun 01 06:01:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14064 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Jun 1999 06:01:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 14056 invoked from network); 1 Jun 1999 06:01:19 -0000 Received: from mail10.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.138) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 1999 06:01:19 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca10-76.ix.netcom.com [205.186.214.76]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA03729; Mon, 31 May 1999 23:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <375370FA.CE880595@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 22:34:50 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leo Walker CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: TACKY MAN IN THE MOON KIDS References: <19990601011251.46606.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Oh wow! Now you know how i feel!!!! Next time, try pushing those people back that pushed you, leo. I always do. They need to get pushed anyway. =Paul*E*Wog Leo Walker wrote: > > ok like i know i always get bashed when i post something on SFR but i could > give a crap. ok how tacky was that party. and of course me LEO always pays > to go just cos i have to see what's it like. but i mean kids there were so > rude. ok like two people pushed me purposely like really hard and i had to > put them in their place. i'm tired of all you little 12 yr old kids coming > in and acting like you have to have some attitude. i mean i have attitude > but i don't just be pushing people around and crap. that is rude. i swear > i almost had to go off and hit someone. and ok how many of these parties do > we have to have i mean hello same DJs and sets and same place. same amount > which is not even worth paying to go to that space. and your bouncers suck. > saying it's over capacity so they can make people outside that want to get > in to pay them 5 bucks to get in. i mean if it was over capacity the people > collecting the tickets and money wouldn't let us in either. bull crap. and > then paying a dollar for some janky tap water with ice in a cup you can get > anywhere else for free. please. that's the last time i go to some tacky > little cheap set up party that's all unorganized. so tacked. > > LeO From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jun 01 06:01:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14695 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Jun 1999 06:01:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 14572 invoked from network); 1 Jun 1999 06:01:31 -0000 Received: from mail10.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.138) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 1999 06:01:31 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca10-76.ix.netcom.com [205.186.214.76]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA03956 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 23:01:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37537266.F3624664@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 22:40:54 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: Just a REMiNDER... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I would just like to remind all you people that you suck! You are worthless dirty trashy little tacky raver kiddies. Ravers are scum. Ravers are sluts. Ravers are cracked out speaker tweakers. Ravers can't dance. Ravers need to go away. Go away all you ugly ass ravers. Let's have some people at a party for ONCE! i HATE YOU ALL!!! =Paul*E*Wog From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jun 01 06:30:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28204 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Jun 1999 06:30:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 28194 invoked from network); 1 Jun 1999 06:30:57 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 1999 06:30:57 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (8042) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vWODa02575 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 02:30:06 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <5cd87e68.2484d7ee@aol.com> Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 02:30:06 EDT Subject: One Liner {nrr} To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Now don't take affiance with this joke, ok ?!?!? Q: Did you hear about the three gay guys who attacked a woman? A: Two held her down while the other did her hair