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Direct from the horse's mouth:

...

Yes yes! The time has come to move to a venue a little more our speed: Darker, dirtier, grittier, louder, closer into the center of everything. Nickie's on Lower Haight is just the spot, and I've been eyeing it up and down for a while. So we snatched up Wednesdays really quickly, and we're running with it as hard as we can. And we just couldn't resist the name "Crooked," knowing the way things usually get at Nickie's. 

m.d.K, Erok, Marc(O) and I (the newly formed "Renegade Ferrets version 1.2") will be holding it down, bringing in very special guests from around the Bay and beyond every week. We go from 10pm 'til 2am at Nickie's, and, unfortunately, we can't keep the free door hook-ups that we used to have at @lpha - we've got to charge $3 at the door at Crooked. But come on, $3... that's less than the cost of a drink! And well worth it for the lineups we plan to put together on a weekly basis. 

For our premiere show, next week, August 9th, we're gonna kick it off with a lineup that's a bit of a preview of the type of night we want this to be every time (with an admitted bit of overkill on the numbers, since this one's special) - a few of our favorites all coming together for one wicked night of breaks: 

Kapt'n Kirk 
Ernie Trevino 
Ripple 
Satsi 
Evinrude 

So come out, have a drink with us, say hello, and help us usher in Crooked, a brand-new way to do Wednesday nights. 

Oh yeah, I almost forgot: 

GET BENT!!! 


Wednesday, August 9th 
CROOKED Premiere 
Nickie's BBQ 
460 Haight St. @ Fillmore, SF 
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sorry to hear about your loss; i hope you find your records...
for future reference, it is commonly advised to call all major and local record stores that buy used music (rasputin, amoeba, etc...)
let them know the situation, along with some of the titles in your bag... if the thief is not wise and tries selling them, employees will be advised to make low-ball offers... you can then by back your music at a much-discounted price...
good luck...


Ranger - <plurranger@hotmail.com> wrote: Shelly.. so sorry to hear that as well.  I will definitely keep an eye and 
ear out for the missing tracks.  I know most of those tracks and know few 
people have them.. if they turn up on the decks I only hope peoples keep and 
ear out.  Best wishes and let's get you some new chunes.

Ranger



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From: Calamity Jane 
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Subject: [sfraves] stolen records
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:43:14 -0700 (PDT)

hey guys,

friday night, word of mouth held a party in the
bayview area.  i'm tossing this request out to anyone
who might have attended, who might have seen something
- anything.  i was hoping after a couple days that i'd
hear word from someone that my bag was in a crew
member's car from strike and they just didn't see it,
but that hasn't happened.

my record bag is a black technics soft case with a
pair of silver sony's in the front pocket, and about
40 tech-house and breaks records with a few downtempo
in the front.  this soft case doesn't have any padding
- it looks more like a shoulder bag, and
on the front is technics written in white script.
it's also a little ripped up and abused but there are
no distinguishable stickers or writing on it.  this is
a small list of records that i can remember having in
there:

Alex Under - "Sorbere Cerebros EP"  [Trapez]
Ben-G - "Barnadango"  [Funkdango]
Jamie Anderson - "Counter Strike"  [Fixia]
Jake Childs & LBO - "Invisible Inc EP"  [Uniform
Black]
Chus Duran - "So Fresh"  [Funkdango]
Claude Young - "Electronic Dissident"  [Dust Science]
Bobby Peru - "Blood Money"  [2020 Vision]
Prefuse 73 - "92 Vs. 02 Collection" [Warp Records]
Tosca - "Dehli9" [K7]

it was in my back seat (i have a dark blue jetta with
a 'i hate your suv' sticker on the back). we arrived
at the loc. around 9:30pm to offload, and i'll be
honest - i didn't unload it from my car. i grabbed
larger items from the back, dropped them off, and when
i came back it wasn't there anymore - it was assumedly
brought to the location by a crew member and i left it
at that.  strike came around and it still wasn't
anywhere.

any information - anything at all - that you may have
about my bag would be greatly appreciated.  if you saw
it, where you saw it and WHEN you saw it would be
incredibly helpful.

you can reach me anytime via this email addy -

thanks,
shelley


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Subject: [sfraves] SFR Planners Present Obsoleet!!!! Aug. 12th

First we Connected the Bay, then took you into the
depths of an 
Egyptian 
Relic, finishing you off with a climatic Amalgamation.
The next step is 
Obsolescence.

SFR Planners presents: Obsoleet
Saturday, August 12th 2006

2x4s all night:

Bam vs. Marc(O)
[Evil Breaks] [Otherworld,Ill Behavior]

Drag'nfly vs. Calamity Jane
[Love Tribe,Shaolin,djDragnfly.com] [Wom SF,Ambient
Mafia]

AndyW vs. Li
[Viberation, Resource Records, Wow] [Viberation]

FingerMonsters
[Origami, Shazbot, Cubik & Andrew Phelan - Monsta
Music]

Yagi vs. Dj Aphelion
[OTC, HCFTP] [Clandestine]

Justin Hale vs. Chris Jackson
[Sticky] [Resource Records]

Superannuated binary walls of visuals by Viberation
4 stacks of steam-powered sound reinforcement by SWAT
Sound
Defunct Decor by the SFR-Planners crew

Full bar for the 21+

10pm - 6 am
East Bay location
$10 tickets @ door
All ages.
(866) 240-3064

http://www.sfraves.org/obsoleet

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Subject: RE: [sfraves] SFR Planners Present Obsoleet!!!! Aug. 12th

now that sounds like an "sfr" event....good job with line up!!!!
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>From: Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: [sfraves] SFR Planners Present Obsoleet!!!! Aug. 12th
>Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:20:07 -0700 (PDT)
>
>First we Connected the Bay, then took you into the
>depths of an
>Egyptian
>Relic, finishing you off with a climatic Amalgamation.
>The next step is
>Obsolescence.
>
>SFR Planners presents: Obsoleet
>Saturday, August 12th 2006
>
>2x4s all night:
>
>Bam vs. Marc(O)
>[Evil Breaks] [Otherworld,Ill Behavior]
>
>Drag'nfly vs. Calamity Jane
>[Love Tribe,Shaolin,djDragnfly.com] [Wom SF,Ambient
>Mafia]
>
>AndyW vs. Li
>[Viberation, Resource Records, Wow] [Viberation]
>
>FingerMonsters
>[Origami, Shazbot, Cubik & Andrew Phelan - Monsta
>Music]
>
>Yagi vs. Dj Aphelion
>[OTC, HCFTP] [Clandestine]
>
>Justin Hale vs. Chris Jackson
>[Sticky] [Resource Records]
>
>Superannuated binary walls of visuals by Viberation
>4 stacks of steam-powered sound reinforcement by SWAT
>Sound
>Defunct Decor by the SFR-Planners crew
>
>Full bar for the 21+
>
>10pm - 6 am
>East Bay location
>$10 tickets @ door
>All ages.
>(866) 240-3064
>
>http://www.sfraves.org/obsoleet
>
>a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and packing my bongloads!
>
>aim= junglegurlee510
>yahoo= velouria83
>google talk= mskittiecat@gmail.com
>MSN @ WORK = velouria83@yahoo.com
>http://www.myspace.com/ms_kittycat
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Uhh,

apot <djapot@yahoo.com> wrote:
  you know, it's very naive to point out a single material event to claim
that someone sucks and is the worst such-and-such...

Excuse me this is not a single event this is thousands of events.

<djapot@yahoo.com> wrote
(but you really have to look at the full spectrum of their actions and
initiatives... i grew up in times square, in the 80's... if you knew
anything about nyc or spent significant time there, then you'll know that
giuliani is responsible for turning that area from a decadent porn, hooker,
and drug den into a booming economic and tourist haven...)

This is not a tourist heaven , this is a corporate franchise today, there is
nothing interesting about , McDonalds, Disney, on and on, cheap broadway
thrillers. And the hoods are just around the corner. I was there in the 80's
, I liked  it . Its was so colorfull , and interesting ,free, a unique
place. 
By the way, whats wrong with "decadent porn" are you a christion moralist. I
think amsterdam has much more "decadent porn" than times square did. You
must be a voting member of the republican party, so naturally you would not
like these things. 
  But lets be fair, and give credit where it is do, Adolph would have been a
great cop. His guilty feelings about his father being in the Mafia and going
to Sing Sing for most of his childhood (his dad jacked the mail man, federal
offense). Rudolph should have never been mayor, but would have been a good
policeman with a liberal mayor, one more tastefull and resptfull for the
arts to keep him in line.
  I like the way the mayor of Berlin allways address's the attendee's of the
Popkomm festival with a welcome letter, to  all the participants and diverse
Independent techno labels. In Guiliani's eyes we were all "evil doers"
Love Parade in NY, I don't think so.

We're not talking about "explicit illegal activity" for events. We're
talking about places like the Cooler, Baktun, Filter 14 (jacky 60's)
,cbgb's, knitting factory and more clean fully legal venues being closed or
coming close to closure because of Adlophs policies.  In short you seen to
not really understand the depth of these problems. Which I why I write about
it because it amazes me how many people don't realize what happened there
and could happen elsewhere.

Ive personally have thrown close to 400 events in NY city, LEGAL events and
I know what I'm talking about. There are no exagerations in what I'm
writing.
 
<djapot@yahoo.com> wrote
(if you're looking to throw  events with explicit illegal activity, think of
ug's as an alternative... last i heard, queens and brooklyn were still great
places to throw parties...
just saying..).



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Hi peeps,

BOT- ILLEKTROLAB Live PA from Phoenix
Fat Bass electro this Tuesday ,live guest appearance,delivered via Phoenix
by ILLEKTROLAB. This kid is a sick producer and on the up's with the
Satamile crew. Breaks to Electro, Ambients and electronic weirdness in the
early hours. Visuals, and some of the hottest new
underground vinyl to come out in the last few weeks. Dub for the tub, breaks
for the freaks and more. Residents weekly Forest Green, and Satamile,
bi-monthly - Mike B and Dov , with Ripple dropping in for once a month
grimish dub low specials with friends. This is
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] SFR Planners Present Obsoleet!!!! Aug. 12th

Yeah- I think my old ass is actually going to stay up all night this =20
time, because I can't miss Chris Jackson VS Justin Hale-

I hear Gothby might be making an appearance too- hahaha!

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On Aug 1, 2006, at 12:21 PM, Danny Picard wrote:

> now that sounds like an "sfr" event....good job with line up!!!!
> Danny
>
>
>
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>> From: Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> Subject: [sfraves] SFR Planners Present Obsoleet!!!! Aug. 12th
>> Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:20:07 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>> First we Connected the Bay, then took you into the
>> depths of an
>> Egyptian
>> Relic, finishing you off with a climatic Amalgamation.
>> The next step is
>> Obsolescence.
>>
>> SFR Planners presents: Obsoleet
>> Saturday, August 12th 2006
>>
>> 2x4s all night:
>>
>> Bam vs. Marc(O)
>> [Evil Breaks] [Otherworld,Ill Behavior]
>>
>> Drag'nfly vs. Calamity Jane
>> [Love Tribe,Shaolin,djDragnfly.com] [Wom SF,Ambient
>> Mafia]
>>
>> AndyW vs. Li
>> [Viberation, Resource Records, Wow] [Viberation]
>>
>> FingerMonsters
>> [Origami, Shazbot, Cubik & Andrew Phelan - Monsta
>> Music]
>>
>> Yagi vs. Dj Aphelion
>> [OTC, HCFTP] [Clandestine]
>>
>> Justin Hale vs. Chris Jackson
>> [Sticky] [Resource Records]
>>
>> Superannuated binary walls of visuals by Viberation
>> 4 stacks of steam-powered sound reinforcement by SWAT
>> Sound
>> Defunct Decor by the SFR-Planners crew
>>
>> Full bar for the 21+
>>
>> 10pm - 6 am
>> East Bay location
>> $10 tickets @ door
>> All ages.
>> (866) 240-3064
>>
>> http://www.sfraves.org/obsoleet
>>
>> a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and packing my bongloads!
>>
>> aim=3D junglegurlee510
>> yahoo=3D velouria83
>> google talk=3D mskittiecat@gmail.com
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Subject: [sfraves] Monitor speakers + stands needed tonight!

I need to borrow a couple powered monitor speakers, cables (RCA outs  
on the mixer), and stands for this evening.  I'm spinning for our  
neighborhood block party, and the "PA system" that we were supposed  
to use is totally inadequate.

Anyone have a pair I could use tonight?  Please give me a call on my  
cell - 415 255 9776

I can pick up around 6 pm and have them back by 11 or so.  I'm in  
Oakland.

Thanks!
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Subject: [sfraves] Tonight???

Hey everyone, it is great to be back home after a very crazy weekend.  I 
hope you are all doing great-ish.  I have a couple of friends up from LA and 
I am trying to find something for us to do tonight on the "unexpensive" side 
of things.  We were going to check out the Titanic exhibit, but 22$ bux was 
a bit steep.  If anyone has suggestions, please  let me know.  Mathew Barney 
exhibit at MOMA?  How is that?  Any weeklies? Movies worth seeing? I have no 
idea and my brain is still trying to figure out what happenned at the 
campout  lol
oops
Love ya'll!
Danny



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Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night

I just wanted to cross-post the comments from the incident that happened at 
the WOM crews party Friday night which are effects from inner city late 
night parties in remote locations that should get everyone thinkign about 
the safety of the party-goers.. an important issue for sure.


This from tribe:

Gang violence at Friday's renegadeToday, 10:26 AM

On Friday night there was a renegade on the jetty near pound SF. Great 
party, good vibe, lots of friendly diverse people, top notch music and some 
excellent fire spinning. Around 4:30 several unfriendly local thugs stumbled 
upon the party with eyes wide like they had just found a liquor store with 
no attendant. They approached 2 party partygoers and robbed them at 
gunpoint. They took everything these kids had on them and before the 
incident was finished, one of them had been pistol-whipped across the face. 
While I did not witness the actual event, I did watch the aftermath unfold. 
The injured kid was pretty beaten up, and bleeding… his friends took him to 
the hospital and the party was shut down almost immediately. We got out of 
there as quickly as possible, shocked and disturbed by what had happened.

Nobody could have anticipated something like this and nobody is to blame for 
what happened. In reflecting on this situation it occurred to me that we 
spend a lot of time in dodgy neighborhoods (both inside and out,) off our 
heads, partying without a care in the world… and yes, that is what a 
renegade is all about. But, paying attention to what is going on around you 
and being able to react to safety concerns is of the utmost importance. This 
could have happened anywhere, to anyone and it’s very unfortunate that it 
happened on Friday. A major lesson learned is simple awareness of your 
surroundings at all times, especially when you are outside, at night, in one 
of the worst neighborhoods in the city. I think the crew throwing this party 
reacted in an excellent way by ensuring that the injured party kid got a 
ride to the hospital and shutting down the party as soon as possible. In my 
discussions of this on Saturday and Sunday I discovered that False Profit 
hired a security guard for their most recent renegade due to the 
neighborhood that they had chosen (hunters point area). It’s possible that a 
security guard may have prevented this situation – but it’s also very 
possible that they would have had no impact.

I am posting this on a few tribes with the intention of drumming up some 
conversation and awareness regarding safety concerns at parties around the 
city. I think it’s really important to discuss incidents like this and learn 
from them to improve the quality of our enjoyment and the safety at events 
like this. This was the first time I have ever even heard of violence like 
this at a party… sure, the cops have invaded our good times on occasion, but 
never a group of violent gun-toting gangsters.



SFR: Ranger
San Francisco
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Who knows where the night leads
It's dark and no one can see





From: "Danny Picard" <blooshaman@hotmail.com>
To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
Subject: [sfraves] Tonight???
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:51:18 -0700

Hey everyone, it is great to be back home after a very crazy weekend.  I 
hope you are all doing great-ish.  I have a couple of friends up from LA and 
I am trying to find something for us to do tonight on the "unexpensive" side 
of things.  We were going to check out the Titanic exhibit, but 22$ bux was 
a bit steep.  If anyone has suggestions, please  let me know.  Mathew Barney 
exhibit at MOMA?  How is that?  Any weeklies? Movies worth seeing? I have no 
idea and my brain is still trying to figure out what happenned at the 
campout  lol
oops
Love ya'll!
Danny



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yubetcha!" -Swedish Chef

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Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night

That sucks.  Back in the day in Chicago promoters had to watch out all the
time, I knew a few that got jumped trying to leave the party with their
earnings and got beat really badly, shady dealings but then again that's
the risk you take when you take things underground I suppose.

A

> I just wanted to cross-post the comments from the incident that happened
> at
> the WOM crews party Friday night which are effects from inner city late
> night parties in remote locations that should get everyone thinkign about
> the safety of the party-goers.. an important issue for sure.
>
>
> This from tribe:
>
> Gang violence at Friday's renegadeToday, 10:26 AM
>
> On Friday night there was a renegade on the jetty near pound SF. Great
> party, good vibe, lots of friendly diverse people, top notch music and
> some
> excellent fire spinning. Around 4:30 several unfriendly local thugs
> stumbled
> upon the party with eyes wide like they had just found a liquor store with
> no attendant. They approached 2 party partygoers and robbed them at
> gunpoint. They took everything these kids had on them and before the
> incident was finished, one of them had been pistol-whipped across the
> face.
> While I did not witness the actual event, I did watch the aftermath
> unfold.
> The injured kid was pretty beaten up, and bleeding… his friends took him
> to
> the hospital and the party was shut down almost immediately. We got out of
> there as quickly as possible, shocked and disturbed by what had happened.
>
> Nobody could have anticipated something like this and nobody is to blame
> for
> what happened. In reflecting on this situation it occurred to me that we
> spend a lot of time in dodgy neighborhoods (both inside and out,) off our
> heads, partying without a care in the world… and yes, that is what a
> renegade is all about. But, paying attention to what is going on around
> you
> and being able to react to safety concerns is of the utmost importance.
> This
> could have happened anywhere, to anyone and it’s very unfortunate that it
> happened on Friday. A major lesson learned is simple awareness of your
> surroundings at all times, especially when you are outside, at night, in
> one
> of the worst neighborhoods in the city. I think the crew throwing this
> party
> reacted in an excellent way by ensuring that the injured party kid got a
> ride to the hospital and shutting down the party as soon as possible. In
> my
> discussions of this on Saturday and Sunday I discovered that False Profit
> hired a security guard for their most recent renegade due to the
> neighborhood that they had chosen (hunters point area). It’s possible that
> a
> security guard may have prevented this situation – but it’s also very
> possible that they would have had no impact.
>
> I am posting this on a few tribes with the intention of drumming up some
> conversation and awareness regarding safety concerns at parties around the
> city. I think it’s really important to discuss incidents like this and
> learn
> from them to improve the quality of our enjoyment and the safety at events
> like this. This was the first time I have ever even heard of violence like
> this at a party… sure, the cops have invaded our good times on occasion,
> but
> never a group of violent gun-toting gangsters.
>
>
>
> SFR: Ranger
> San Francisco
> plurranger@hotmail.com
> Who knows where the night leads
> It's dark and no one can see
>
>
>
>
>
> From: "Danny Picard" <blooshaman@hotmail.com>
> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: [sfraves] Tonight???
> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:51:18 -0700
>
> Hey everyone, it is great to be back home after a very crazy weekend.  I
> hope you are all doing great-ish.  I have a couple of friends up from LA
> and
> I am trying to find something for us to do tonight on the "unexpensive"
> side
> of things.  We were going to check out the Titanic exhibit, but 22$ bux
> was
> a bit steep.  If anyone has suggestions, please  let me know.  Mathew
> Barney
> exhibit at MOMA?  How is that?  Any weeklies? Movies worth seeing? I have
> no
> idea and my brain is still trying to figure out what happenned at the
> campout  lol
> oops
> Love ya'll!
> Danny
>
>
>
> "Vergoofin der flicke stoobin mit der brk-brk
> yubetcha!" -Swedish Chef
>
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Subject: [sfraves] BSP: Folded @ Anu this Friday w/ Bryan Jones!

We're very lucky to have Chicago's Bryan Jones at Anu this month! Widely
known as one half of High Caliber, Bryan is one of house music's fastest
rising stars, with a plethora of recent solo releases on labels such as
Fetish, Jackin' Tracks, Black Cherry, Aroma, Robsoul, and his own imprint
Control Recordings.  Also joining us this month will be In House's Leonard
and Naz.  Get ready to jack!

.folded. @ Anu (43 Sixth St. @ Market, SF)

Friday, August 4th, 10PM - 2AM

*No Cover* as always

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This Month Features:

Bryan Jones - Chicago (control, aroma, fetish)

Naz (in house)

Leonard (in house)

Sen-Sei (turnaround-sound)

Origami (newstylesound, so sound)

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Put the Needle on the Record (<http://www.imdb.com/Sections/Years/2006>2006) 

'PUT THE NEEDLE ON THE RECORD' is an award-winning documentary which explores the evolution of electronic music and the rise of the DJ in pop culture. Filmed in Miami during the Winter Music Conference, a yearly week-long event attended by over 20,000 electronic music professionals and fans, the film takes an inside look at a growing global phenomenon in the world of music. Interviews with top artists, footage from events around the globe and a brilliant soundtrack are combined to create a highly energetic piece of filmmaking. 

See review:  http://www.newswiretoday.com/news/7325/




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Gangs, Politics & House Music: The History of Hip Hop in Chicago. 

An interview with Jitu of the pioneering hip hop group Ten Tray By Davey D

Nowadays it’s hard to turn on the radio and not hear music from one of Chicago’s many music superstars. Common, Twista, Da Brat, Shawnna, R Kelly, Doe or Die, Crucial Conflict, Lupe Fiasco, and of course Kanye West seem to have firmly positioned themselves on the nation’s airwaves. 

If you dig a little deeper and check out Hip Hop’s underground, you’ll discover that very few people are willing to roll up and do battle with esteemed Chi-town lyricists like M’Rald, Rhymefest and of course Juice. Others like DJ Third Rail and the late DJ Pinkhouse to name a few have not only made names for themselves as deejays not to be toyed with but also provided important platform for local artists.

Yes, the Chi seems to have established itself in the world of Hip Hop, but it wasn’t always like that. In fact much of the Chi-Town’s success is a direct result of organized effort by it’s pioneering Hip Hop community that grew frustrated from being locked out by the industry that saw Chicago, more as a consumer market as a opposed to a place where stars are born. 

Many within the music industry were only willing to embrace the nation’s third largest city as the Mecca for House Music and somehow managed to disconnect that music form from Hip Hop when in many ways the two are intertwined, especially along the lines of deejay culture. 

The battle to establish ‘Tha Chi’ within Hip Hop was about as brutal as its political landscape. Unsung heroes like Dr Groove, Lord Cashus D, DA Smart, Black Allies, Sugar Ray Dinky, George Daniels, World wide Posse, God Squad, The Chi Rock Nation, Ill State Assassins, and the late DJ Pink House all played crucial roles in organizing, pushing the envelop and seeing to it that the Windy City get its respect. They used to roll up on nightclubs, radio stations and even label executives demanding to be recognized. Many will forget that back in the late 80s there was a movement called the New World Order which brought many of Chicago’s Hip Hop community together as they fought for change and respect.

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Subject: [sfraves] *BSP* Live Music - Comedy Showcase - Free BBQ - (This Saturday Aug 5th) 

Oaklyn Records and OtherWorld
Saturday August 5th, 2006
9:00pm-3:00am

Oaklyn Records Launch Party & Record Release

lights by:  Radiant Atmospheres and Coil
sound by:   Gateway Systems

voicemail:  510-287-5917
            510-466-5880

check out the websites for updated info: 
http://www.otherworld.ws 
http://www.oaklynrecords.com

$5 at the door
located @ Club Oasis
135 12th Street  Downtown Oakland
---------------------------------------------

the night kicks off at 9:00pm with a very special 
2hr Comedy Showcase hosted and headlined by:

Miguel Fierro (aka Single Cell Orchestra)

and featuring:

Jasper Redd 
(Comedy Central / Late Night with Carson Daily) 

Louis Katz 
(Jamie Foxx's Laffapalooza / Late Night Carson Daily)

Will Franken 
(SF Weekly 2005 Best Comedian)

Edwin Li 

Sam Arno 
 
Moshe Kasher 

Kevin Camia 

Justin Scales 

Alex Koll

and more...

*also from 9:00-11:00 we’ll be cooking up tons of 
FREE BBQ for everybody out back.  (vegi & meat)  
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Then stick around for a night of the best live Hip
Hop, Trip Hop, & Electro with music performances by:

Azeem  *live hip hop
(OM Records / Oaklyn Records / Bomb Hip Hop /
WideHive)
http://www.myspace.com/mcazeem
http://www.crowdedcastle.com/

DJ Zeph  
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Primitive)
http://profile.myspace.com/djzeph
http://www.widehive.com/dj_zeph.html

DJ Quest  
(Space Travellers / Live Human / Hamster Breaks)
http://www.bombhiphop.com/newbomb/bombpages/quest.html

Marc Stretch  
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http://www.lookrecords.com/marchstretch.html
http://www.myspace.com/marcstretch

CatFive  *live 
(katfive.com)
http://www.katfive.com/

Joe Rice  
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bradelectro  *live
(Soulmine Records / bradelectro.com)
http://bradelectro.com/

Naked Slice
(Renegade Virus Sound System - Brooklyn, NY)
http://www.myspace.com/nakedslice

Marin
(OtherWorld)
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The Extra Credit Presents:
*Ants in My Pants!*

You got what in your pants? Never fear, because The Extra Credit is here!
This Saturday we make our triumphant return to civilization at The Canvas
Gallery with a special Up-tempo night. Drink specials all night long, so
come and enjoy all of The Extra Credit DJs you know and love.

Saturday, August 5th
10pm - 2am
$5 Donation - Free for Field Day Attendees

The Canvas Gallery
1200 9th Ave & Lincoln

Breaks - House - Techno - Ghetto Tech

Music Provided by:
Hickory
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<font size="4"><span style="font-size: 14px;"><b>Ants in My Pants!</b></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px;">You
got what in your pants? Never fear, because The Extra Credit is here!
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Canvas Gallery with a special Up-tempo night. Drink specials all night
long, so come and enjoy all of The Extra Credit DJs you know and
love.&nbsp;</div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;">Saturday, August 5th&nbsp;</div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;">10pm - 2am</div><div style="margin: 0px;">
$5 Donation -&nbsp;Free for Field Day Attendees</div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;">The Canvas Gallery<br></div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;">1200 9th Ave &amp; Lincoln
</div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px;"><font size="3"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Breaks - House - Techno - Ghetto Tech</span></font></div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;">
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Ganucheau</span></font></div><div style="margin: 0px;"><font size="3"><span style="font-size: 11px;">Faye Valentine</span></font></div><div style="margin: 0px;"><font size="3"><span style="font-size: 11px;">Squelchy</span>
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ack....
was it just me...or was there an earthquake...

me don't like freakin earthquakes...lol..

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On Aug 2, 2006, at 8:26 PM, adriana wrote:

> ack....
> was it just me...or was there an earthquake...
>
> me don't like freakin earthquakes...lol..
>
http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Quakes/nc40187964.html

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Yeah, I felt it in Martinez.  They say 4.7 near Glen Ellen (not far from 
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Yeah im up here in SR.... but I didn't feel anything. Everyones like didnt
you feel that?

nope... lol... i always miss quakes.

^^

i feel kinda left out i guess, living in Cali and never even noticing them.

On 8/2/06, JonnyR@aol.com <JonnyR@aol.com> wrote:
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> Yeah, I felt it in Martinez.  They say 4.7 near Glen Ellen (not far from
> Santa Rosa)
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It was pretty damn weak, barely shook my computer monitor, and only for
about 3 seconds.  Is that all you got san andreas?!

On 8/3/06, Max Dykstra <digerati@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah im up here in SR.... but I didn't feel anything. Everyones like didnt
> you feel that?
>
> nope... lol... i always miss quakes.
>
> ^^
>
> i feel kinda left out i guess, living in Cali and never even noticing
> them.
>
> On 8/2/06, JonnyR@aol.com <JonnyR@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, I felt it in Martinez.  They say 4.7 near Glen Ellen (not far from
> > Santa Rosa)
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Max Dykstra
>
>


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== PRELIMINARY EARTHQUAKE REPORT ==
California Integrated Seismic Net
USGS/ Caltech/ CGS/ UCB/ UCSD/ UNR

Version #3: This report supersedes any earlier reports of this event.
This event has been reviewed by a seismologist.


A light earthquake occurred at 8:08:12 PM (PDT) on Wednesday, August 2, 
2006.
The magnitude 4.4 event occurred 5 km (3 miles) W of Glen Ellen, CA.
The hypocentral depth is 9 km ( 6 miles).



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Magnitude 4.4 - regional moment magnitude (Mw)
Time Wednesday, August 2, 2006 at 8:08:12 PM (PDT)
Thursday, August 3, 2006 at 3:08:12 (UTC)
Distance from Glen Ellen, CA - 5 km (3 miles) W (268 degrees)
Rohnert Park, CA - 9 km (6 miles) E (79 degrees)
Cotati, CA - 11 km (7 miles) ENE (69 degrees)
Santa Rosa, CA - 14 km (9 miles) SE (133 degrees)
San Francisco City Hall, CA - 67 km (42 miles) NNW (347 degrees)

Coordinates 38 deg. 21.8 min. N (38.363N), 122 deg. 35.4 min. W (122.589W)
Depth 9.1 km (5.7 miles)
Location Quality Good
Location Quality Parameters Nst=250, Nph=250, Dmin=2 km, Rmss=0.15 sec, 
Erho=0.2 km, Erzz=0.3 km, Gp=36 degrees
Event ID# nc40187964




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It was pretty damn weak, barely shook my computer monitor, and only for
about 3 seconds.  Is that all you got san andreas?!

On 8/3/06, Max Dykstra <digerati@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Yeah im up here in SR.... but I didn't feel anything. Everyones like didnt
>you feel that?
>
>nope... lol... i always miss quakes.
>
>^^
>
>i feel kinda left out i guess, living in Cali and never even noticing
>them.
>
>On 8/2/06, JonnyR@aol.com <JonnyR@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, I felt it in Martinez.  They say 4.7 near Glen Ellen (not far from
> > Santa Rosa)
> >
> >
>
>
>--
>Regards,
>Max Dykstra
>
>


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Subject: RE: [sfraves] *BSP* Live Music - Comedy Showcase - Free BBQ - (This Saturday
 Aug 5th)

Thisis gonna be so off the hook, you all don't know!!! If you like good 
laughs, party rockin' hip-hop and ill turntablism...with FREE BBQ to 
boot...then you need to come out.





>From: Other World <otherworld_sfr@yahoo.com>
>To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: [sfraves] *BSP* Live Music - Comedy Showcase - Free BBQ - (This 
>Saturday Aug 5th) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 15:04:11 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Oaklyn Records and OtherWorld
>Saturday August 5th, 2006
>9:00pm-3:00am
>
>Oaklyn Records Launch Party & Record Release
>
>lights by:  Radiant Atmospheres and Coil
>sound by:   Gateway Systems
>
>voicemail:  510-287-5917
>             510-466-5880
>
>check out the websites for updated info:
>http://www.otherworld.ws
>http://www.oaklynrecords.com
>
>$5 at the door
>located @ Club Oasis
>135 12th Street  Downtown Oakland
>---------------------------------------------
>
>the night kicks off at 9:00pm with a very special
>2hr Comedy Showcase hosted and headlined by:
>
>Miguel Fierro (aka Single Cell Orchestra)
>
>and featuring:
>
>Jasper Redd
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>
>Louis Katz
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>
>Will Franken
>(SF Weekly 2005 Best Comedian)
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>
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>
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>
>Kevin Camia
>
>Justin Scales
>
>Alex Koll
>
>and more...
>
>*also from 9:00-11:00 we’ll be cooking up tons of
>FREE BBQ for everybody out back.  (vegi & meat)
>-------------------------------------------------
>
>Then stick around for a night of the best live Hip
>Hop, Trip Hop, & Electro with music performances by:
>
>Azeem  *live hip hop
>(OM Records / Oaklyn Records / Bomb Hip Hop /
>WideHive)
>http://www.myspace.com/mcazeem
>http://www.crowdedcastle.com/
>
>DJ Zeph
>(OM Records / Oaklyn Records / WideHive / Future
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>http://profile.myspace.com/djzeph
>http://www.widehive.com/dj_zeph.html
>
>DJ Quest
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>http://www.bombhiphop.com/newbomb/bombpages/quest.html
>
>Marc Stretch
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>http://www.lookrecords.com/marchstretch.html
>http://www.myspace.com/marcstretch
>
>CatFive  *live
>(katfive.com)
>http://www.katfive.com/
>
>Joe Rice
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>
>bradelectro  *live
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>Naked Slice
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>Marin
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Subject: [sfraves] BSP: CROOKED @ Nickie's BBQ on Haight @ Fillmore (A New weekly event!)

Brought to you by the Renegade Ferrets, a new weekly event!!!! We'll be 
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This is going to be such a sic ass weekly.. damn fine way to start it out 
too.  Anyone catch Ripple's set at Full Melt.. freakin left me fully melted 
for sure!  can't wait to see him mix it up with the cowboys..



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8.9.06 - Premiere night:
Kapt'n Kirk
Ernie Trevino
Ripple
Satsi
Evinrude

8.16.06:
Kris Kent
Thomas Kent
Hyjinx
Marc(O)


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The needle has not been used much lately. Need a job. Tired of searching.
Tired of interviews. Tired of life?

The funds run red, the crops dry up, the poppies run out...

This pain in my gut. This pain in my gut. I have done it to myself with my
eyes wide open. Gosh, the stress is relentless. I owe but yet I'm owed.

Bought Biosphere - Substrata and listened closely. I found different
feelings and places. Different moods and colors. I highly recommend it to
anyone looking for a great ambient CD. Warm, yet cold, cold, yet fixed.

Finished two more tracks. My CD now has 14 songs on it. but no capital to
get mastered or pressed at this time. Is it even worth it anyway?

'Scissors for Lefty' play Friday in San Jose. Live 105 seems to be all over
them,. People should go.

Much love to all those that participate in this place and time.


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Subject: Re: [sfraves] nrr: freakin earthquake....


Rocked good here on Treasure Island.  Nice swell with an after roller.

My GF was talking to my mom around the time.  Mom said she felt the quake 
hit, then 30 secs later my GF felt it here in SF.

Pretty wild.



At 06:24 AM 8/3/2006, you wrote:
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Photos of RedstickWOMAN and DJ Bambi

that's our interactive remix-o-musical sound installation, the 
improbable orchestra.

http://www.improbableorchestra.com/

you can't have it!  ;)  but actually, we are beginning work on a home 
version.  if you've got any requests or feedback i'd be curious to hear 
it, since we're in the early planning stages of the next generation of 
the thing right now.

io is usually at burning man but may or may not make it out there this 
year.  look for it anyway! (we usually put it way out the past the man 
somewhere) ...if it's not there you'll probably find something else 
worthwhile.

-jacob

dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hey what's that neat thingee with all the cool buttons and dials in the Flickr photoset?  I want it.
>
> Yes I was one of those kids that ran through the science museum pushing ALL the buttons...
>
> Peace,
>
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message ----
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>
> @ Dragnet
>
> http://www.mvgals.net/gallery/mighty-072206
>
> and
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/hornline/sets/72157594209364381/
>
>   


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Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night

That sucks big time.

Many years ago, I was at a warehouse party near Santa Cruz. They had a big
security guy working the door. A few local gangsters showed up and tried to
get but instead scuffled with the security and were sent on their way.

They came back with a rifle and started shooting through the warehouse's
closed roll up door. A few people took some bullets including one guy who
got hit in the head and died.








> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ranger - [mailto:plurranger@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:31 PM
> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night
> 
> I just wanted to cross-post the comments from the incident that happened
> at
> the WOM crews party Friday night which are effects from inner city late
> night parties in remote locations that should get everyone thinkign about
> the safety of the party-goers.. an important issue for sure.
> 
> 
> This from tribe:
> 
> Gang violence at Friday's renegadeToday, 10:26 AM
> 
> On Friday night there was a renegade on the jetty near pound SF. Great
> party, good vibe, lots of friendly diverse people, top notch music and
> some
> excellent fire spinning. Around 4:30 several unfriendly local thugs
> stumbled
> upon the party with eyes wide like they had just found a liquor store with
> no attendant. They approached 2 party partygoers and robbed them at
> gunpoint. They took everything these kids had on them and before the
> incident was finished, one of them had been pistol-whipped across the
> face.
> While I did not witness the actual event, I did watch the aftermath
> unfold.
> The injured kid was pretty beaten up, and bleeding. his friends took him
> to
> the hospital and the party was shut down almost immediately. We got out of
> there as quickly as possible, shocked and disturbed by what had happened.
> 
> Nobody could have anticipated something like this and nobody is to blame
> for
> what happened. In reflecting on this situation it occurred to me that we
> spend a lot of time in dodgy neighborhoods (both inside and out,) off our
> heads, partying without a care in the world. and yes, that is what a
> renegade is all about. But, paying attention to what is going on around
> you
> and being able to react to safety concerns is of the utmost importance.
> This
> could have happened anywhere, to anyone and it's very unfortunate that it
> happened on Friday. A major lesson learned is simple awareness of your
> surroundings at all times, especially when you are outside, at night, in
> one
> of the worst neighborhoods in the city. I think the crew throwing this
> party
> reacted in an excellent way by ensuring that the injured party kid got a
> ride to the hospital and shutting down the party as soon as possible. In
> my
> discussions of this on Saturday and Sunday I discovered that False Profit
> hired a security guard for their most recent renegade due to the
> neighborhood that they had chosen (hunters point area). It's possible that
> a
> security guard may have prevented this situation - but it's also very
> possible that they would have had no impact.
> 
> I am posting this on a few tribes with the intention of drumming up some
> conversation and awareness regarding safety concerns at parties around the
> city. I think it's really important to discuss incidents like this and
> learn
> from them to improve the quality of our enjoyment and the safety at events
> like this. This was the first time I have ever even heard of violence like
> this at a party. sure, the cops have invaded our good times on occasion,
> but
> never a group of violent gun-toting gangsters.
> 
> 
> 
> SFR: Ranger
> San Francisco
> plurranger@hotmail.com
> Who knows where the night leads
> It's dark and no one can see
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Danny Picard" <blooshaman@hotmail.com>
> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: [sfraves] Tonight???
> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:51:18 -0700
> 
> Hey everyone, it is great to be back home after a very crazy weekend.  I
> hope you are all doing great-ish.  I have a couple of friends up from LA
> and
> I am trying to find something for us to do tonight on the "unexpensive"
> side
> of things.  We were going to check out the Titanic exhibit, but 22$ bux
> was
> a bit steep.  If anyone has suggestions, please  let me know.  Mathew
> Barney
> exhibit at MOMA?  How is that?  Any weeklies? Movies worth seeing? I have
> no
> idea and my brain is still trying to figure out what happenned at the
> campout  lol
> oops
> Love ya'll!
> Danny
> 
> 
> 
> "Vergoofin der flicke stoobin mit der brk-brk
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Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night

I was there too. J-Bot who then just went by his name,
James was spnning, and  I was leaning on the roll-up
door when the shots came through. One of my friends
got shot in the leg. I was the first person to get to
the guy who died, and my old friend Jason aka: snappy
did what EMT stuff he could.

That party left me tripped out for weeks. It occurred
in the late Spring of 1993.

E


--- Sean <freakzone@mindspring.com> wrote:

> That sucks big time.
> 
> Many years ago, I was at a warehouse party near
> Santa Cruz. They had a big
> security guy working the door. A few local gangsters
> showed up and tried to
> get but instead scuffled with the security and were
> sent on their way.
> 
> They came back with a rifle and started shooting
> through the warehouse's
> closed roll up door. A few people took some bullets
> including one guy who
> got hit in the head and died.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ranger - [mailto:plurranger@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:31 PM
> > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday
> Night
> > 
> > I just wanted to cross-post the comments from the
> incident that happened
> > at
> > the WOM crews party Friday night which are effects
> from inner city late
> > night parties in remote locations that should get
> everyone thinkign about
> > the safety of the party-goers.. an important issue
> for sure.
> > 
> > 
> > This from tribe:
> > 
> > Gang violence at Friday's renegadeToday, 10:26 AM
> > 
> > On Friday night there was a renegade on the jetty
> near pound SF. Great
> > party, good vibe, lots of friendly diverse people,
> top notch music and
> > some
> > excellent fire spinning. Around 4:30 several
> unfriendly local thugs
> > stumbled
> > upon the party with eyes wide like they had just
> found a liquor store with
> > no attendant. They approached 2 party partygoers
> and robbed them at
> > gunpoint. They took everything these kids had on
> them and before the
> > incident was finished, one of them had been
> pistol-whipped across the
> > face.
> > While I did not witness the actual event, I did
> watch the aftermath
> > unfold.
> > The injured kid was pretty beaten up, and
> bleeding. his friends took him
> > to
> > the hospital and the party was shut down almost
> immediately. We got out of
> > there as quickly as possible, shocked and
> disturbed by what had happened.
> > 
> > Nobody could have anticipated something like this
> and nobody is to blame
> > for
> > what happened. In reflecting on this situation it
> occurred to me that we
> > spend a lot of time in dodgy neighborhoods (both
> inside and out,) off our
> > heads, partying without a care in the world. and
> yes, that is what a
> > renegade is all about. But, paying attention to
> what is going on around
> > you
> > and being able to react to safety concerns is of
> the utmost importance.
> > This
> > could have happened anywhere, to anyone and it's
> very unfortunate that it
> > happened on Friday. A major lesson learned is
> simple awareness of your
> > surroundings at all times, especially when you are
> outside, at night, in
> > one
> > of the worst neighborhoods in the city. I think
> the crew throwing this
> > party
> > reacted in an excellent way by ensuring that the
> injured party kid got a
> > ride to the hospital and shutting down the party
> as soon as possible. In
> > my
> > discussions of this on Saturday and Sunday I
> discovered that False Profit
> > hired a security guard for their most recent
> renegade due to the
> > neighborhood that they had chosen (hunters point
> area). It's possible that
> > a
> > security guard may have prevented this situation -
> but it's also very
> > possible that they would have had no impact.
> > 
> > I am posting this on a few tribes with the
> intention of drumming up some
> > conversation and awareness regarding safety
> concerns at parties around the
> > city. I think it's really important to discuss
> incidents like this and
> > learn
> > from them to improve the quality of our enjoyment
> and the safety at events
> > like this. This was the first time I have ever
> even heard of violence like
> > this at a party. sure, the cops have invaded our
> good times on occasion,
> > but
> > never a group of violent gun-toting gangsters.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > SFR: Ranger
> > San Francisco
> > plurranger@hotmail.com
> > Who knows where the night leads
> > It's dark and no one can see
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: "Danny Picard" <blooshaman@hotmail.com>
> > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: [sfraves] Tonight???
> > Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:51:18 -0700
> > 
> > Hey everyone, it is great to be back home after a
> very crazy weekend.  I
> > hope you are all doing great-ish.  I have a couple
> of friends up from LA
> > and
> > I am trying to find something for us to do tonight
> on the "unexpensive"
> > side
> > of things.  We were going to check out the Titanic
> exhibit, but 22$ bux
> > was
> > a bit steep.  If anyone has suggestions, please 
> let me know.  Mathew
> > Barney
> > exhibit at MOMA?  How is that?  Any weeklies?
> Movies worth seeing? I have
> > no
> > idea and my brain is still trying to figure out
> what happenned at the
> > campout  lol
> > oops
> > Love ya'll!
> > Danny
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "Vergoofin der flicke stoobin mit der brk-brk
> > yubetcha!" -Swedish Chef
> > 
> > http://www.myspace.com/spiffythewarrior
> > http://people.tribe.net/spiffy
> > AIM --->spiffythewarrior
> > 
> >
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night

I remember hearing about this.  I lived in Santa Cruz (well actually Boulder Creek) at the time, although I the first rave I went to wasn't until later that winter.

With respect to the more recent events, its difficult to see how open parties at the beach can really be secured.  Perhaps the best security comes from more careful promotion of the event.

Peace,

Peter


----- Original Message ----
From: Eric Spire <ericspire@yahoo.com>
To: Sean <freakzone@mindspring.com>; sfraves@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2006 7:22:45 PM
Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night

I was there too. J-Bot who then just went by his name,
James was spnning, and  I was leaning on the roll-up
door when the shots came through. One of my friends
got shot in the leg. I was the first person to get to
the guy who died, and my old friend Jason aka: snappy
did what EMT stuff he could.

That party left me tripped out for weeks. It occurred
in the late Spring of 1993.

E


--- Sean <freakzone@mindspring.com> wrote:

> That sucks big time.
> 
> Many years ago, I was at a warehouse party near
> Santa Cruz. They had a big
> security guy working the door. A few local gangsters
> showed up and tried to
> get but instead scuffled with the security and were
> sent on their way.
> 
> They came back with a rifle and started shooting
> through the warehouse's
> closed roll up door. A few people took some bullets
> including one guy who
> got hit in the head and died.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ranger - [mailto:plurranger@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:31 PM
> > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday
> Night
> > 
> > I just wanted to cross-post the comments from the
> incident that happened
> > at
> > the WOM crews party Friday night which are effects
> from inner city late
> > night parties in remote locations that should get
> everyone thinkign about
> > the safety of the party-goers.. an important issue
> for sure.
> > 
> > 
> > This from tribe:
> > 
> > Gang violence at Friday's renegadeToday, 10:26 AM
> > 
> > On Friday night there was a renegade on the jetty
> near pound SF. Great
> > party, good vibe, lots of friendly diverse people,
> top notch music and
> > some
> > excellent fire spinning. Around 4:30 several
> unfriendly local thugs
> > stumbled
> > upon the party with eyes wide like they had just
> found a liquor store with
> > no attendant. They approached 2 party partygoers
> and robbed them at
> > gunpoint. They took everything these kids had on
> them and before the
> > incident was finished, one of them had been
> pistol-whipped across the
> > face.
> > While I did not witness the actual event, I did
> watch the aftermath
> > unfold.
> > The injured kid was pretty beaten up, and
> bleeding. his friends took him
> > to
> > the hospital and the party was shut down almost
> immediately. We got out of
> > there as quickly as possible, shocked and
> disturbed by what had happened.
> > 
> > Nobody could have anticipated something like this
> and nobody is to blame
> > for
> > what happened. In reflecting on this situation it
> occurred to me that we
> > spend a lot of time in dodgy neighborhoods (both
> inside and out,) off our
> > heads, partying without a care in the world. and
> yes, that is what a
> > renegade is all about. But, paying attention to
> what is going on around
> > you
> > and being able to react to safety concerns is of
> the utmost importance.
> > This
> > could have happened anywhere, to anyone and it's
> very unfortunate that it
> > happened on Friday. A major lesson learned is
> simple awareness of your
> > surroundings at all times, especially when you are
> outside, at night, in
> > one
> > of the worst neighborhoods in the city. I think
> the crew throwing this
> > party
> > reacted in an excellent way by ensuring that the
> injured party kid got a
> > ride to the hospital and shutting down the party
> as soon as possible. In
> > my
> > discussions of this on Saturday and Sunday I
> discovered that False Profit
> > hired a security guard for their most recent
> renegade due to the
> > neighborhood that they had chosen (hunters point
> area). It's possible that
> > a
> > security guard may have prevented this situation -
> but it's also very
> > possible that they would have had no impact.
> > 
> > I am posting this on a few tribes with the
> intention of drumming up some
> > conversation and awareness regarding safety
> concerns at parties around the
> > city. I think it's really important to discuss
> incidents like this and
> > learn
> > from them to improve the quality of our enjoyment
> and the safety at events
> > like this. This was the first time I have ever
> even heard of violence like
> > this at a party. sure, the cops have invaded our
> good times on occasion,
> > but
> > never a group of violent gun-toting gangsters.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > SFR: Ranger
> > San Francisco
> > plurranger@hotmail.com
> > Who knows where the night leads
> > It's dark and no one can see
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: "Danny Picard" <blooshaman@hotmail.com>
> > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: [sfraves] Tonight???
> > Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:51:18 -0700
> > 
> > Hey everyone, it is great to be back home after a
> very crazy weekend.  I
> > hope you are all doing great-ish.  I have a couple
> of friends up from LA
> > and
> > I am trying to find something for us to do tonight
> on the "unexpensive"
> > side
> > of things.  We were going to check out the Titanic
> exhibit, but 22$ bux
> > was
> > a bit steep.  If anyone has suggestions, please 
> let me know.  Mathew
> > Barney
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> > no
> > idea and my brain is still trying to figure out
> what happenned at the
> > campout  lol
> > oops
> > Love ya'll!
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> > 
> > 
> > 
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Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night

I still have the newspaper article about what happened. The police caught
the guys who did it the same night. They were driving around Watsonville
with the gun in the car. 

There was no phone in that warehouse and a friend and I had to jump a fence
in the back and run to a neighbor's house about 1/4 mile down the road where
they called the police and ambulance.

I remember that someone was filming the party all night with a camera on a
tripod in the corner. Apparently, they used the footage at the trial as it
showed people getting shot-up.







> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Spire [mailto:ericspire@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 7:23 PM
> To: Sean; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night
> 
> I was there too. J-Bot who then just went by his name,
> James was spnning, and  I was leaning on the roll-up
> door when the shots came through. One of my friends
> got shot in the leg. I was the first person to get to
> the guy who died, and my old friend Jason aka: snappy
> did what EMT stuff he could.
> 
> That party left me tripped out for weeks. It occurred
> in the late Spring of 1993.
> 
> E
> 
> 
> --- Sean <freakzone@mindspring.com> wrote:
> 
> > That sucks big time.
> >
> > Many years ago, I was at a warehouse party near
> > Santa Cruz. They had a big
> > security guy working the door. A few local gangsters
> > showed up and tried to
> > get but instead scuffled with the security and were
> > sent on their way.
> >
> > They came back with a rifle and started shooting
> > through the warehouse's
> > closed roll up door. A few people took some bullets
> > including one guy who
> > got hit in the head and died.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ranger - [mailto:plurranger@hotmail.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:31 PM
> > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday
> > Night
> > >
> > > I just wanted to cross-post the comments from the
> > incident that happened
> > > at
> > > the WOM crews party Friday night which are effects
> > from inner city late
> > > night parties in remote locations that should get
> > everyone thinkign about
> > > the safety of the party-goers.. an important issue
> > for sure.
> > >
> > >
> > > This from tribe:
> > >
> > > Gang violence at Friday's renegadeToday, 10:26 AM
> > >
> > > On Friday night there was a renegade on the jetty
> > near pound SF. Great
> > > party, good vibe, lots of friendly diverse people,
> > top notch music and
> > > some
> > > excellent fire spinning. Around 4:30 several
> > unfriendly local thugs
> > > stumbled
> > > upon the party with eyes wide like they had just
> > found a liquor store with
> > > no attendant. They approached 2 party partygoers
> > and robbed them at
> > > gunpoint. They took everything these kids had on
> > them and before the
> > > incident was finished, one of them had been
> > pistol-whipped across the
> > > face.
> > > While I did not witness the actual event, I did
> > watch the aftermath
> > > unfold.
> > > The injured kid was pretty beaten up, and
> > bleeding. his friends took him
> > > to
> > > the hospital and the party was shut down almost
> > immediately. We got out of
> > > there as quickly as possible, shocked and
> > disturbed by what had happened.
> > >
> > > Nobody could have anticipated something like this
> > and nobody is to blame
> > > for
> > > what happened. In reflecting on this situation it
> > occurred to me that we
> > > spend a lot of time in dodgy neighborhoods (both
> > inside and out,) off our
> > > heads, partying without a care in the world. and
> > yes, that is what a
> > > renegade is all about. But, paying attention to
> > what is going on around
> > > you
> > > and being able to react to safety concerns is of
> > the utmost importance.
> > > This
> > > could have happened anywhere, to anyone and it's
> > very unfortunate that it
> > > happened on Friday. A major lesson learned is
> > simple awareness of your
> > > surroundings at all times, especially when you are
> > outside, at night, in
> > > one
> > > of the worst neighborhoods in the city. I think
> > the crew throwing this
> > > party
> > > reacted in an excellent way by ensuring that the
> > injured party kid got a
> > > ride to the hospital and shutting down the party
> > as soon as possible. In
> > > my
> > > discussions of this on Saturday and Sunday I
> > discovered that False Profit
> > > hired a security guard for their most recent
> > renegade due to the
> > > neighborhood that they had chosen (hunters point
> > area). It's possible that
> > > a
> > > security guard may have prevented this situation -
> > but it's also very
> > > possible that they would have had no impact.
> > >
> > > I am posting this on a few tribes with the
> > intention of drumming up some
> > > conversation and awareness regarding safety
> > concerns at parties around the
> > > city. I think it's really important to discuss
> > incidents like this and
> > > learn
> > > from them to improve the quality of our enjoyment
> > and the safety at events
> > > like this. This was the first time I have ever
> > even heard of violence like
> > > this at a party. sure, the cops have invaded our
> > good times on occasion,
> > > but
> > > never a group of violent gun-toting gangsters.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > SFR: Ranger
> > > San Francisco
> > > plurranger@hotmail.com
> > > Who knows where the night leads
> > > It's dark and no one can see
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: "Danny Picard" <blooshaman@hotmail.com>
> > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: [sfraves] Tonight???
> > > Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:51:18 -0700
> > >
> > > Hey everyone, it is great to be back home after a
> > very crazy weekend.  I
> > > hope you are all doing great-ish.  I have a couple
> > of friends up from LA
> > > and
> > > I am trying to find something for us to do tonight
> > on the "unexpensive"
> > > side
> > > of things.  We were going to check out the Titanic
> > exhibit, but 22$ bux
> > > was
> > > a bit steep.  If anyone has suggestions, please
> > let me know.  Mathew
> > > Barney
> > > exhibit at MOMA?  How is that?  Any weeklies?
> > Movies worth seeing? I have
> > > no
> > > idea and my brain is still trying to figure out
> > what happenned at the
> > > campout  lol
> > > oops
> > > Love ya'll!
> > > Danny
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Vergoofin der flicke stoobin mit der brk-brk
> > > yubetcha!" -Swedish Chef
> > >
> > > http://www.myspace.com/spiffythewarrior
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Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night

OMG you guys.. Eric.. fucking trippin dude.  Man.. the whole concept of gang 
violence and raving just blows me away.  I have never known anything but 
plur and am so happy for it.. I think it is why I am still not jaded.. and 
more seriously.. I still think that although random.. there are things we 
can do to prevent and protect the community.. like planning parties with 
safety in mind.

I just cross posted that as a wake up call to event planners.. "please keep 
patron safety in mind"  we will love you for it all the more!



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From: Eric Spire <ericspire@yahoo.com>
To: Sean <freakzone@mindspring.com>, sfraves@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:22:45 -0700 (PDT)

I was there too. J-Bot who then just went by his name,
James was spnning, and  I was leaning on the roll-up
door when the shots came through. One of my friends
got shot in the leg. I was the first person to get to
the guy who died, and my old friend Jason aka: snappy
did what EMT stuff he could.

That party left me tripped out for weeks. It occurred
in the late Spring of 1993.

E


--- Sean <freakzone@mindspring.com> wrote:

 > That sucks big time.
 >
 > Many years ago, I was at a warehouse party near
 > Santa Cruz. They had a big
 > security guy working the door. A few local gangsters
 > showed up and tried to
 > get but instead scuffled with the security and were
 > sent on their way.
 >
 > They came back with a rifle and started shooting
 > through the warehouse's
 > closed roll up door. A few people took some bullets
 > including one guy who
 > got hit in the head and died.
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > > -----Original Message-----
 > > From: Ranger - [mailto:plurranger@hotmail.com]
 > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:31 PM
 > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
 > > Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday
 > Night
 > >
 > > I just wanted to cross-post the comments from the
 > incident that happened
 > > at
 > > the WOM crews party Friday night which are effects
 > from inner city late
 > > night parties in remote locations that should get
 > everyone thinkign about
 > > the safety of the party-goers.. an important issue
 > for sure.
 > >
 > >
 > > This from tribe:
 > >
 > > Gang violence at Friday's renegadeToday, 10:26 AM
 > >
 > > On Friday night there was a renegade on the jetty
 > near pound SF. Great
 > > party, good vibe, lots of friendly diverse people,
 > top notch music and
 > > some
 > > excellent fire spinning. Around 4:30 several
 > unfriendly local thugs
 > > stumbled
 > > upon the party with eyes wide like they had just
 > found a liquor store with
 > > no attendant. They approached 2 party partygoers
 > and robbed them at
 > > gunpoint. They took everything these kids had on
 > them and before the
 > > incident was finished, one of them had been
 > pistol-whipped across the
 > > face.
 > > While I did not witness the actual event, I did
 > watch the aftermath
 > > unfold.
 > > The injured kid was pretty beaten up, and
 > bleeding. his friends took him
 > > to
 > > the hospital and the party was shut down almost
 > immediately. We got out of
 > > there as quickly as possible, shocked and
 > disturbed by what had happened.
 > >
 > > Nobody could have anticipated something like this
 > and nobody is to blame
 > > for
 > > what happened. In reflecting on this situation it
 > occurred to me that we
 > > spend a lot of time in dodgy neighborhoods (both
 > inside and out,) off our
 > > heads, partying without a care in the world. and
 > yes, that is what a
 > > renegade is all about. But, paying attention to
 > what is going on around
 > > you
 > > and being able to react to safety concerns is of
 > the utmost importance.
 > > This
 > > could have happened anywhere, to anyone and it's
 > very unfortunate that it
 > > happened on Friday. A major lesson learned is
 > simple awareness of your
 > > surroundings at all times, especially when you are
 > outside, at night, in
 > > one
 > > of the worst neighborhoods in the city. I think
 > the crew throwing this
 > > party
 > > reacted in an excellent way by ensuring that the
 > injured party kid got a
 > > ride to the hospital and shutting down the party
 > as soon as possible. In
 > > my
 > > discussions of this on Saturday and Sunday I
 > discovered that False Profit
 > > hired a security guard for their most recent
 > renegade due to the
 > > neighborhood that they had chosen (hunters point
 > area). It's possible that
 > > a
 > > security guard may have prevented this situation -
 > but it's also very
 > > possible that they would have had no impact.
 > >
 > > I am posting this on a few tribes with the
 > intention of drumming up some
 > > conversation and awareness regarding safety
 > concerns at parties around the
 > > city. I think it's really important to discuss
 > incidents like this and
 > > learn
 > > from them to improve the quality of our enjoyment
 > and the safety at events
 > > like this. This was the first time I have ever
 > even heard of violence like
 > > this at a party. sure, the cops have invaded our
 > good times on occasion,
 > > but
 > > never a group of violent gun-toting gangsters.
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > SFR: Ranger
 > > San Francisco
 > > plurranger@hotmail.com
 > > Who knows where the night leads
 > > It's dark and no one can see
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > From: "Danny Picard" <blooshaman@hotmail.com>
 > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
 > > Subject: [sfraves] Tonight???
 > > Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:51:18 -0700
 > >
 > > Hey everyone, it is great to be back home after a
 > very crazy weekend.  I
 > > hope you are all doing great-ish.  I have a couple
 > of friends up from LA
 > > and
 > > I am trying to find something for us to do tonight
 > on the "unexpensive"
 > > side
 > > of things.  We were going to check out the Titanic
 > exhibit, but 22$ bux
 > > was
 > > a bit steep.  If anyone has suggestions, please
 > let me know.  Mathew
 > > Barney
 > > exhibit at MOMA?  How is that?  Any weeklies?
 > Movies worth seeing? I have
 > > no
 > > idea and my brain is still trying to figure out
 > what happenned at the
 > > campout  lol
 > > oops
 > > Love ya'll!
 > > Danny
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > "Vergoofin der flicke stoobin mit der brk-brk
 > > yubetcha!" -Swedish Chef
 > >
 > > http://www.myspace.com/spiffythewarrior
 > > http://people.tribe.net/spiffy
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Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night

Geezus.. it just gets worse?  Filmed.. omg!!!

I am so happy they caught those fuckers.  Sorry to swear but that really 
fits the bill.

I lived in Santa Cruz for 8 years but only from 1997 on.. always seemed so 
rediculously calm.. I had a hard time leaving.. still lovin the cruz and 
going back foir a beach party this weekend.  Just had to end this on a good 
SC note :)

Crazy Y'all ~

SFR: Ranger
San Francisco
plurranger@hotmail.com
Who knows where the night leads
It's dark and no one can see





From: "Sean" <freakzone@mindspring.com>
To: <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:15:32 -0700

I still have the newspaper article about what happened. The police caught
the guys who did it the same night. They were driving around Watsonville
with the gun in the car.

There was no phone in that warehouse and a friend and I had to jump a fence
in the back and run to a neighbor's house about 1/4 mile down the road where
they called the police and ambulance.

I remember that someone was filming the party all night with a camera on a
tripod in the corner. Apparently, they used the footage at the trial as it
showed people getting shot-up.







 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Eric Spire [mailto:ericspire@yahoo.com]
 > Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 7:23 PM
 > To: Sean; sfraves@hyperreal.org
 > Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night
 >
 > I was there too. J-Bot who then just went by his name,
 > James was spnning, and  I was leaning on the roll-up
 > door when the shots came through. One of my friends
 > got shot in the leg. I was the first person to get to
 > the guy who died, and my old friend Jason aka: snappy
 > did what EMT stuff he could.
 >
 > That party left me tripped out for weeks. It occurred
 > in the late Spring of 1993.
 >
 > E
 >
 >
 > --- Sean <freakzone@mindspring.com> wrote:
 >
 > > That sucks big time.
 > >
 > > Many years ago, I was at a warehouse party near
 > > Santa Cruz. They had a big
 > > security guy working the door. A few local gangsters
 > > showed up and tried to
 > > get but instead scuffled with the security and were
 > > sent on their way.
 > >
 > > They came back with a rifle and started shooting
 > > through the warehouse's
 > > closed roll up door. A few people took some bullets
 > > including one guy who
 > > got hit in the head and died.
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > > -----Original Message-----
 > > > From: Ranger - [mailto:plurranger@hotmail.com]
 > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:31 PM
 > > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
 > > > Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday
 > > Night
 > > >
 > > > I just wanted to cross-post the comments from the
 > > incident that happened
 > > > at
 > > > the WOM crews party Friday night which are effects
 > > from inner city late
 > > > night parties in remote locations that should get
 > > everyone thinkign about
 > > > the safety of the party-goers.. an important issue
 > > for sure.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > This from tribe:
 > > >
 > > > Gang violence at Friday's renegadeToday, 10:26 AM
 > > >
 > > > On Friday night there was a renegade on the jetty
 > > near pound SF. Great
 > > > party, good vibe, lots of friendly diverse people,
 > > top notch music and
 > > > some
 > > > excellent fire spinning. Around 4:30 several
 > > unfriendly local thugs
 > > > stumbled
 > > > upon the party with eyes wide like they had just
 > > found a liquor store with
 > > > no attendant. They approached 2 party partygoers
 > > and robbed them at
 > > > gunpoint. They took everything these kids had on
 > > them and before the
 > > > incident was finished, one of them had been
 > > pistol-whipped across the
 > > > face.
 > > > While I did not witness the actual event, I did
 > > watch the aftermath
 > > > unfold.
 > > > The injured kid was pretty beaten up, and
 > > bleeding. his friends took him
 > > > to
 > > > the hospital and the party was shut down almost
 > > immediately. We got out of
 > > > there as quickly as possible, shocked and
 > > disturbed by what had happened.
 > > >
 > > > Nobody could have anticipated something like this
 > > and nobody is to blame
 > > > for
 > > > what happened. In reflecting on this situation it
 > > occurred to me that we
 > > > spend a lot of time in dodgy neighborhoods (both
 > > inside and out,) off our
 > > > heads, partying without a care in the world. and
 > > yes, that is what a
 > > > renegade is all about. But, paying attention to
 > > what is going on around
 > > > you
 > > > and being able to react to safety concerns is of
 > > the utmost importance.
 > > > This
 > > > could have happened anywhere, to anyone and it's
 > > very unfortunate that it
 > > > happened on Friday. A major lesson learned is
 > > simple awareness of your
 > > > surroundings at all times, especially when you are
 > > outside, at night, in
 > > > one
 > > > of the worst neighborhoods in the city. I think
 > > the crew throwing this
 > > > party
 > > > reacted in an excellent way by ensuring that the
 > > injured party kid got a
 > > > ride to the hospital and shutting down the party
 > > as soon as possible. In
 > > > my
 > > > discussions of this on Saturday and Sunday I
 > > discovered that False Profit
 > > > hired a security guard for their most recent
 > > renegade due to the
 > > > neighborhood that they had chosen (hunters point
 > > area). It's possible that
 > > > a
 > > > security guard may have prevented this situation -
 > > but it's also very
 > > > possible that they would have had no impact.
 > > >
 > > > I am posting this on a few tribes with the
 > > intention of drumming up some
 > > > conversation and awareness regarding safety
 > > concerns at parties around the
 > > > city. I think it's really important to discuss
 > > incidents like this and
 > > > learn
 > > > from them to improve the quality of our enjoyment
 > > and the safety at events
 > > > like this. This was the first time I have ever
 > > even heard of violence like
 > > > this at a party. sure, the cops have invaded our
 > > good times on occasion,
 > > > but
 > > > never a group of violent gun-toting gangsters.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > SFR: Ranger
 > > > San Francisco
 > > > plurranger@hotmail.com
 > > > Who knows where the night leads
 > > > It's dark and no one can see
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > From: "Danny Picard" <blooshaman@hotmail.com>
 > > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
 > > > Subject: [sfraves] Tonight???
 > > > Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:51:18 -0700
 > > >
 > > > Hey everyone, it is great to be back home after a
 > > very crazy weekend.  I
 > > > hope you are all doing great-ish.  I have a couple
 > > of friends up from LA
 > > > and
 > > > I am trying to find something for us to do tonight
 > > on the "unexpensive"
 > > > side
 > > > of things.  We were going to check out the Titanic
 > > exhibit, but 22$ bux
 > > > was
 > > > a bit steep.  If anyone has suggestions, please
 > > let me know.  Mathew
 > > > Barney
 > > > exhibit at MOMA?  How is that?  Any weeklies?
 > > Movies worth seeing? I have
 > > > no
 > > > idea and my brain is still trying to figure out
 > > what happenned at the
 > > > campout  lol
 > > > oops
 > > > Love ya'll!
 > > > Danny
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > "Vergoofin der flicke stoobin mit der brk-brk
 > > > yubetcha!" -Swedish Chef
 > > >
 > > > http://www.myspace.com/spiffythewarrior
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night

Going down to SC this Saturday actually.

Peter

----- Original Message ----
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To: freakzone@mindspring.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2006 10:49:33 AM
Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night

Geezus.. it just gets worse?  Filmed.. omg!!!

I am so happy they caught those fuckers.  Sorry to swear but that really 
fits the bill.

I lived in Santa Cruz for 8 years but only from 1997 on.. always seemed so 
rediculously calm.. I had a hard time leaving.. still lovin the cruz and 
going back foir a beach party this weekend.  Just had to end this on a good 
SC note :)

Crazy Y'all ~

SFR: Ranger
San Francisco
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Who knows where the night leads
It's dark and no one can see





From: "Sean" <freakzone@mindspring.com>
To: <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:15:32 -0700

I still have the newspaper article about what happened. The police caught
the guys who did it the same night. They were driving around Watsonville
with the gun in the car.

There was no phone in that warehouse and a friend and I had to jump a fence
in the back and run to a neighbor's house about 1/4 mile down the road where
they called the police and ambulance.

I remember that someone was filming the party all night with a camera on a
tripod in the corner. Apparently, they used the footage at the trial as it
showed people getting shot-up.







 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Eric Spire [mailto:ericspire@yahoo.com]
 > Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 7:23 PM
 > To: Sean; sfraves@hyperreal.org
 > Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night
 >
 > I was there too. J-Bot who then just went by his name,
 > James was spnning, and  I was leaning on the roll-up
 > door when the shots came through. One of my friends
 > got shot in the leg. I was the first person to get to
 > the guy who died, and my old friend Jason aka: snappy
 > did what EMT stuff he could.
 >
 > That party left me tripped out for weeks. It occurred
 > in the late Spring of 1993.
 >
 > E
 >
 >
 > --- Sean <freakzone@mindspring.com> wrote:
 >
 > > That sucks big time.
 > >
 > > Many years ago, I was at a warehouse party near
 > > Santa Cruz. They had a big
 > > security guy working the door. A few local gangsters
 > > showed up and tried to
 > > get but instead scuffled with the security and were
 > > sent on their way.
 > >
 > > They came back with a rifle and started shooting
 > > through the warehouse's
 > > closed roll up door. A few people took some bullets
 > > including one guy who
 > > got hit in the head and died.
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > > -----Original Message-----
 > > > From: Ranger - [mailto:plurranger@hotmail.com]
 > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:31 PM
 > > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
 > > > Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday
 > > Night
 > > >
 > > > I just wanted to cross-post the comments from the
 > > incident that happened
 > > > at
 > > > the WOM crews party Friday night which are effects
 > > from inner city late
 > > > night parties in remote locations that should get
 > > everyone thinkign about
 > > > the safety of the party-goers.. an important issue
 > > for sure.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > This from tribe:
 > > >
 > > > Gang violence at Friday's renegadeToday, 10:26 AM
 > > >
 > > > On Friday night there was a renegade on the jetty
 > > near pound SF. Great
 > > > party, good vibe, lots of friendly diverse people,
 > > top notch music and
 > > > some
 > > > excellent fire spinning. Around 4:30 several
 > > unfriendly local thugs
 > > > stumbled
 > > > upon the party with eyes wide like they had just
 > > found a liquor store with
 > > > no attendant. They approached 2 party partygoers
 > > and robbed them at
 > > > gunpoint. They took everything these kids had on
 > > them and before the
 > > > incident was finished, one of them had been
 > > pistol-whipped across the
 > > > face.
 > > > While I did not witness the actual event, I did
 > > watch the aftermath
 > > > unfold.
 > > > The injured kid was pretty beaten up, and
 > > bleeding. his friends took him
 > > > to
 > > > the hospital and the party was shut down almost
 > > immediately. We got out of
 > > > there as quickly as possible, shocked and
 > > disturbed by what had happened.
 > > >
 > > > Nobody could have anticipated something like this
 > > and nobody is to blame
 > > > for
 > > > what happened. In reflecting on this situation it
 > > occurred to me that we
 > > > spend a lot of time in dodgy neighborhoods (both
 > > inside and out,) off our
 > > > heads, partying without a care in the world. and
 > > yes, that is what a
 > > > renegade is all about. But, paying attention to
 > > what is going on around
 > > > you
 > > > and being able to react to safety concerns is of
 > > the utmost importance.
 > > > This
 > > > could have happened anywhere, to anyone and it's
 > > very unfortunate that it
 > > > happened on Friday. A major lesson learned is
 > > simple awareness of your
 > > > surroundings at all times, especially when you are
 > > outside, at night, in
 > > > one
 > > > of the worst neighborhoods in the city. I think
 > > the crew throwing this
 > > > party
 > > > reacted in an excellent way by ensuring that the
 > > injured party kid got a
 > > > ride to the hospital and shutting down the party
 > > as soon as possible. In
 > > > my
 > > > discussions of this on Saturday and Sunday I
 > > discovered that False Profit
 > > > hired a security guard for their most recent
 > > renegade due to the
 > > > neighborhood that they had chosen (hunters point
 > > area). It's possible that
 > > > a
 > > > security guard may have prevented this situation -
 > > but it's also very
 > > > possible that they would have had no impact.
 > > >
 > > > I am posting this on a few tribes with the
 > > intention of drumming up some
 > > > conversation and awareness regarding safety
 > > concerns at parties around the
 > > > city. I think it's really important to discuss
 > > incidents like this and
 > > > learn
 > > > from them to improve the quality of our enjoyment
 > > and the safety at events
 > > > like this. This was the first time I have ever
 > > even heard of violence like
 > > > this at a party. sure, the cops have invaded our
 > > good times on occasion,
 > > > but
 > > > never a group of violent gun-toting gangsters.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > SFR: Ranger
 > > > San Francisco
 > > > plurranger@hotmail.com
 > > > Who knows where the night leads
 > > > It's dark and no one can see
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > From: "Danny Picard" <blooshaman@hotmail.com>
 > > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
 > > > Subject: [sfraves] Tonight???
 > > > Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:51:18 -0700
 > > >
 > > > Hey everyone, it is great to be back home after a
 > > very crazy weekend.  I
 > > > hope you are all doing great-ish.  I have a couple
 > > of friends up from LA
 > > > and
 > > > I am trying to find something for us to do tonight
 > > on the "unexpensive"
 > > > side
 > > > of things.  We were going to check out the Titanic
 > > exhibit, but 22$ bux
 > > > was
 > > > a bit steep.  If anyone has suggestions, please
 > > let me know.  Mathew
 > > > Barney
 > > > exhibit at MOMA?  How is that?  Any weeklies?
 > > Movies worth seeing? I have
 > > > no
 > > > idea and my brain is still trying to figure out
 > > what happenned at the
 > > > campout  lol
 > > > oops
 > > > Love ya'll!
 > > > Danny
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > "Vergoofin der flicke stoobin mit der brk-brk
 > > > yubetcha!" -Swedish Chef
 > > >
 > > > http://www.myspace.com/spiffythewarrior
 > > > http://people.tribe.net/spiffy
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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:22:58 -0700
From: "John Dee" <antitux@gmail.com>
To: "Ranger -" <plurranger@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night

I knew of someone out here who got stabbed at a house party up in
north scottsdale, which is one of the ritzy areas of town in phoenix.


On 8/4/06, Ranger - <plurranger@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Geezus.. it just gets worse?  Filmed.. omg!!!
>
> I am so happy they caught those fuckers.  Sorry to swear but that really
> fits the bill.
>
> I lived in Santa Cruz for 8 years but only from 1997 on.. always seemed so
> rediculously calm.. I had a hard time leaving.. still lovin the cruz and
> going back foir a beach party this weekend.  Just had to end this on a good
> SC note :)
>
> Crazy Y'all ~
>
> SFR: Ranger
> San Francisco
> plurranger@hotmail.com
> Who knows where the night leads
> It's dark and no one can see
>
>
>
>
>
> From: "Sean" <freakzone@mindspring.com>
> To: <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night
> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:15:32 -0700
>
> I still have the newspaper article about what happened. The police caught
> the guys who did it the same night. They were driving around Watsonville
> with the gun in the car.
>
> There was no phone in that warehouse and a friend and I had to jump a fence
> in the back and run to a neighbor's house about 1/4 mile down the road where
> they called the police and ambulance.
>
> I remember that someone was filming the party all night with a camera on a
> tripod in the corner. Apparently, they used the footage at the trial as it
> showed people getting shot-up.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: Eric Spire [mailto:ericspire@yahoo.com]
>  > Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 7:23 PM
>  > To: Sean; sfraves@hyperreal.org
>  > Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night
>  >
>  > I was there too. J-Bot who then just went by his name,
>  > James was spnning, and  I was leaning on the roll-up
>  > door when the shots came through. One of my friends
>  > got shot in the leg. I was the first person to get to
>  > the guy who died, and my old friend Jason aka: snappy
>  > did what EMT stuff he could.
>  >
>  > That party left me tripped out for weeks. It occurred
>  > in the late Spring of 1993.
>  >
>  > E
>  >
>  >
>  > --- Sean <freakzone@mindspring.com> wrote:
>  >
>  > > That sucks big time.
>  > >
>  > > Many years ago, I was at a warehouse party near
>  > > Santa Cruz. They had a big
>  > > security guy working the door. A few local gangsters
>  > > showed up and tried to
>  > > get but instead scuffled with the security and were
>  > > sent on their way.
>  > >
>  > > They came back with a rifle and started shooting
>  > > through the warehouse's
>  > > closed roll up door. A few people took some bullets
>  > > including one guy who
>  > > got hit in the head and died.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > > -----Original Message-----
>  > > > From: Ranger - [mailto:plurranger@hotmail.com]
>  > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:31 PM
>  > > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>  > > > Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday
>  > > Night
>  > > >
>  > > > I just wanted to cross-post the comments from the
>  > > incident that happened
>  > > > at
>  > > > the WOM crews party Friday night which are effects
>  > > from inner city late
>  > > > night parties in remote locations that should get
>  > > everyone thinkign about
>  > > > the safety of the party-goers.. an important issue
>  > > for sure.
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > This from tribe:
>  > > >
>  > > > Gang violence at Friday's renegadeToday, 10:26 AM
>  > > >
>  > > > On Friday night there was a renegade on the jetty
>  > > near pound SF. Great
>  > > > party, good vibe, lots of friendly diverse people,
>  > > top notch music and
>  > > > some
>  > > > excellent fire spinning. Around 4:30 several
>  > > unfriendly local thugs
>  > > > stumbled
>  > > > upon the party with eyes wide like they had just
>  > > found a liquor store with
>  > > > no attendant. They approached 2 party partygoers
>  > > and robbed them at
>  > > > gunpoint. They took everything these kids had on
>  > > them and before the
>  > > > incident was finished, one of them had been
>  > > pistol-whipped across the
>  > > > face.
>  > > > While I did not witness the actual event, I did
>  > > watch the aftermath
>  > > > unfold.
>  > > > The injured kid was pretty beaten up, and
>  > > bleeding. his friends took him
>  > > > to
>  > > > the hospital and the party was shut down almost
>  > > immediately. We got out of
>  > > > there as quickly as possible, shocked and
>  > > disturbed by what had happened.
>  > > >
>  > > > Nobody could have anticipated something like this
>  > > and nobody is to blame
>  > > > for
>  > > > what happened. In reflecting on this situation it
>  > > occurred to me that we
>  > > > spend a lot of time in dodgy neighborhoods (both
>  > > inside and out,) off our
>  > > > heads, partying without a care in the world. and
>  > > yes, that is what a
>  > > > renegade is all about. But, paying attention to
>  > > what is going on around
>  > > > you
>  > > > and being able to react to safety concerns is of
>  > > the utmost importance.
>  > > > This
>  > > > could have happened anywhere, to anyone and it's
>  > > very unfortunate that it
>  > > > happened on Friday. A major lesson learned is
>  > > simple awareness of your
>  > > > surroundings at all times, especially when you are
>  > > outside, at night, in
>  > > > one
>  > > > of the worst neighborhoods in the city. I think
>  > > the crew throwing this
>  > > > party
>  > > > reacted in an excellent way by ensuring that the
>  > > injured party kid got a
>  > > > ride to the hospital and shutting down the party
>  > > as soon as possible. In
>  > > > my
>  > > > discussions of this on Saturday and Sunday I
>  > > discovered that False Profit
>  > > > hired a security guard for their most recent
>  > > renegade due to the
>  > > > neighborhood that they had chosen (hunters point
>  > > area). It's possible that
>  > > > a
>  > > > security guard may have prevented this situation -
>  > > but it's also very
>  > > > possible that they would have had no impact.
>  > > >
>  > > > I am posting this on a few tribes with the
>  > > intention of drumming up some
>  > > > conversation and awareness regarding safety
>  > > concerns at parties around the
>  > > > city. I think it's really important to discuss
>  > > incidents like this and
>  > > > learn
>  > > > from them to improve the quality of our enjoyment
>  > > and the safety at events
>  > > > like this. This was the first time I have ever
>  > > even heard of violence like
>  > > > this at a party. sure, the cops have invaded our
>  > > good times on occasion,
>  > > > but
>  > > > never a group of violent gun-toting gangsters.
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > SFR: Ranger
>  > > > San Francisco
>  > > > plurranger@hotmail.com
>  > > > Who knows where the night leads
>  > > > It's dark and no one can see
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > From: "Danny Picard" <blooshaman@hotmail.com>
>  > > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>  > > > Subject: [sfraves] Tonight???
>  > > > Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:51:18 -0700
>  > > >
>  > > > Hey everyone, it is great to be back home after a
>  > > very crazy weekend.  I
>  > > > hope you are all doing great-ish.  I have a couple
>  > > of friends up from LA
>  > > > and
>  > > > I am trying to find something for us to do tonight
>  > > on the "unexpensive"
>  > > > side
>  > > > of things.  We were going to check out the Titanic
>  > > exhibit, but 22$ bux
>  > > > was
>  > > > a bit steep.  If anyone has suggestions, please
>  > > let me know.  Mathew
>  > > > Barney
>  > > > exhibit at MOMA?  How is that?  Any weeklies?
>  > > Movies worth seeing? I have
>  > > > no
>  > > > idea and my brain is still trying to figure out
>  > > what happenned at the
>  > > > campout  lol
>  > > > oops
>  > > > Love ya'll!
>  > > > Danny
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > "Vergoofin der flicke stoobin mit der brk-brk
>  > > > yubetcha!" -Swedish Chef
>  > > >
>  > > > http://www.myspace.com/spiffythewarrior
>  > > > http://people.tribe.net/spiffy
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The shows must go on.

Ranger - <plurranger@hotmail.com> wrote:  OMG you guys.. Eric.. fucking trippin dude. Man.. the whole concept of gang 
violence and raving just blows me away. I have never known anything but 
plur and am so happy for it.. I think it is why I am still not jaded.. and 
more seriously.. I still think that although random.. there are things we 
can do to prevent and protect the community.. like planning parties with 
safety in mind.

I just cross posted that as a wake up call to event planners.. "please keep 
patron safety in mind" we will love you for it all the more!



SFR: Ranger
San Francisco
plurranger@hotmail.com
Who knows where the night leads
It's dark and no one can see





From: Eric Spire 
To: Sean , sfraves@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:22:45 -0700 (PDT)

I was there too. J-Bot who then just went by his name,
James was spnning, and I was leaning on the roll-up
door when the shots came through. One of my friends
got shot in the leg. I was the first person to get to
the guy who died, and my old friend Jason aka: snappy
did what EMT stuff he could.

That party left me tripped out for weeks. It occurred
in the late Spring of 1993.

E


--- Sean wrote:

> That sucks big time.
>
> Many years ago, I was at a warehouse party near
> Santa Cruz. They had a big
> security guy working the door. A few local gangsters
> showed up and tried to
> get but instead scuffled with the security and were
> sent on their way.
>
> They came back with a rifle and started shooting
> through the warehouse's
> closed roll up door. A few people took some bullets
> including one guy who
> got hit in the head and died.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ranger - [mailto:plurranger@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:31 PM
> > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday
> Night
> >
> > I just wanted to cross-post the comments from the
> incident that happened
> > at
> > the WOM crews party Friday night which are effects
> from inner city late
> > night parties in remote locations that should get
> everyone thinkign about
> > the safety of the party-goers.. an important issue
> for sure.
> >
> >
> > This from tribe:
> >
> > Gang violence at Friday's renegadeToday, 10:26 AM
> >
> > On Friday night there was a renegade on the jetty
> near pound SF. Great
> > party, good vibe, lots of friendly diverse people,
> top notch music and
> > some
> > excellent fire spinning. Around 4:30 several
> unfriendly local thugs
> > stumbled
> > upon the party with eyes wide like they had just
> found a liquor store with
> > no attendant. They approached 2 party partygoers
> and robbed them at
> > gunpoint. They took everything these kids had on
> them and before the
> > incident was finished, one of them had been
> pistol-whipped across the
> > face.
> > While I did not witness the actual event, I did
> watch the aftermath
> > unfold.
> > The injured kid was pretty beaten up, and
> bleeding. his friends took him
> > to
> > the hospital and the party was shut down almost
> immediately. We got out of
> > there as quickly as possible, shocked and
> disturbed by what had happened.
> >
> > Nobody could have anticipated something like this
> and nobody is to blame
> > for
> > what happened. In reflecting on this situation it
> occurred to me that we
> > spend a lot of time in dodgy neighborhoods (both
> inside and out,) off our
> > heads, partying without a care in the world. and
> yes, that is what a
> > renegade is all about. But, paying attention to
> what is going on around
> > you
> > and being able to react to safety concerns is of
> the utmost importance.
> > This
> > could have happened anywhere, to anyone and it's
> very unfortunate that it
> > happened on Friday. A major lesson learned is
> simple awareness of your
> > surroundings at all times, especially when you are
> outside, at night, in
> > one
> > of the worst neighborhoods in the city. I think
> the crew throwing this
> > party
> > reacted in an excellent way by ensuring that the
> injured party kid got a
> > ride to the hospital and shutting down the party
> as soon as possible. In
> > my
> > discussions of this on Saturday and Sunday I
> discovered that False Profit
> > hired a security guard for their most recent
> renegade due to the
> > neighborhood that they had chosen (hunters point
> area). It's possible that
> > a
> > security guard may have prevented this situation -
> but it's also very
> > possible that they would have had no impact.
> >
> > I am posting this on a few tribes with the
> intention of drumming up some
> > conversation and awareness regarding safety
> concerns at parties around the
> > city. I think it's really important to discuss
> incidents like this and
> > learn
> > from them to improve the quality of our enjoyment
> and the safety at events
> > like this. This was the first time I have ever
> even heard of violence like
> > this at a party. sure, the cops have invaded our
> good times on occasion,
> > but
> > never a group of violent gun-toting gangsters.
> >
> >
> >
> > SFR: Ranger
> > San Francisco
> > plurranger@hotmail.com
> > Who knows where the night leads
> > It's dark and no one can see
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: "Danny Picard" 
> > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: [sfraves] Tonight???
> > Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:51:18 -0700
> >
> > Hey everyone, it is great to be back home after a
> very crazy weekend. I
> > hope you are all doing great-ish. I have a couple
> of friends up from LA
> > and
> > I am trying to find something for us to do tonight
> on the "unexpensive"
> > side
> > of things. We were going to check out the Titanic
> exhibit, but 22$ bux
> > was
> > a bit steep. If anyone has suggestions, please
> let me know. Mathew
> > Barney
> > exhibit at MOMA? How is that? Any weeklies?
> Movies worth seeing? I have
> > no
> > idea and my brain is still trying to figure out
> what happenned at the
> > campout lol
> > oops
> > Love ya'll!
> > Danny
> >
> >
> >
> > "Vergoofin der flicke stoobin mit der brk-brk
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night

Scottsdale is a trip.. lot's of redneck violence in all the surrounding 
communities.. that fact that they made it to a nice house isn't too 
surprising.. there are a lots of REALLY nice houses out there - cause 
compared to Cali it is cheap as hell.  My ex GF's dad is one of the best 
plastic surgeons in the south west and their house is in a neighborhood 
where everyone designs and builds their own homes custom, on some mountain 
everyone climbs. Yet his son has all kinds of violent friends and is a 
braller, while the other son died from H.  Now.. you tell me where to draw 
the line.

Point is.. you can't escape redneck/gang violence without first protecting 
community.   If everyone does their job of raising conciousness, looking out 
for others, planning for safety.. I think we won't hear much more about 
violence.. cause it seems to be on an upswning.. so let's stomp it out!



SFR: Ranger
San Francisco
plurranger@hotmail.com
Who knows where the night leads
It's dark and no one can see





From: "John Dee" <antitux@gmail.com>
To: "Ranger -" <plurranger@hotmail.com>
CC: freakzone@mindspring.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:22:58 -0700

I knew of someone out here who got stabbed at a house party up in
north scottsdale, which is one of the ritzy areas of town in phoenix.


On 8/4/06, Ranger - <plurranger@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Geezus.. it just gets worse?  Filmed.. omg!!!
>
>I am so happy they caught those fuckers.  Sorry to swear but that really
>fits the bill.
>
>I lived in Santa Cruz for 8 years but only from 1997 on.. always seemed so
>rediculously calm.. I had a hard time leaving.. still lovin the cruz and
>going back foir a beach party this weekend.  Just had to end this on a good
>SC note :)
>
>Crazy Y'all ~
>
>SFR: Ranger
>San Francisco
>plurranger@hotmail.com
>Who knows where the night leads
>It's dark and no one can see
>
>
>
>
>
>From: "Sean" <freakzone@mindspring.com>
>To: <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night
>Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:15:32 -0700
>
>I still have the newspaper article about what happened. The police caught
>the guys who did it the same night. They were driving around Watsonville
>with the gun in the car.
>
>There was no phone in that warehouse and a friend and I had to jump a fence
>in the back and run to a neighbor's house about 1/4 mile down the road 
>where
>they called the police and ambulance.
>
>I remember that someone was filming the party all night with a camera on a
>tripod in the corner. Apparently, they used the footage at the trial as it
>showed people getting shot-up.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: Eric Spire [mailto:ericspire@yahoo.com]
>  > Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 7:23 PM
>  > To: Sean; sfraves@hyperreal.org
>  > Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night
>  >
>  > I was there too. J-Bot who then just went by his name,
>  > James was spnning, and  I was leaning on the roll-up
>  > door when the shots came through. One of my friends
>  > got shot in the leg. I was the first person to get to
>  > the guy who died, and my old friend Jason aka: snappy
>  > did what EMT stuff he could.
>  >
>  > That party left me tripped out for weeks. It occurred
>  > in the late Spring of 1993.
>  >
>  > E
>  >
>  >
>  > --- Sean <freakzone@mindspring.com> wrote:
>  >
>  > > That sucks big time.
>  > >
>  > > Many years ago, I was at a warehouse party near
>  > > Santa Cruz. They had a big
>  > > security guy working the door. A few local gangsters
>  > > showed up and tried to
>  > > get but instead scuffled with the security and were
>  > > sent on their way.
>  > >
>  > > They came back with a rifle and started shooting
>  > > through the warehouse's
>  > > closed roll up door. A few people took some bullets
>  > > including one guy who
>  > > got hit in the head and died.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > > -----Original Message-----
>  > > > From: Ranger - [mailto:plurranger@hotmail.com]
>  > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:31 PM
>  > > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>  > > > Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday
>  > > Night
>  > > >
>  > > > I just wanted to cross-post the comments from the
>  > > incident that happened
>  > > > at
>  > > > the WOM crews party Friday night which are effects
>  > > from inner city late
>  > > > night parties in remote locations that should get
>  > > everyone thinkign about
>  > > > the safety of the party-goers.. an important issue
>  > > for sure.
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > This from tribe:
>  > > >
>  > > > Gang violence at Friday's renegadeToday, 10:26 AM
>  > > >
>  > > > On Friday night there was a renegade on the jetty
>  > > near pound SF. Great
>  > > > party, good vibe, lots of friendly diverse people,
>  > > top notch music and
>  > > > some
>  > > > excellent fire spinning. Around 4:30 several
>  > > unfriendly local thugs
>  > > > stumbled
>  > > > upon the party with eyes wide like they had just
>  > > found a liquor store with
>  > > > no attendant. They approached 2 party partygoers
>  > > and robbed them at
>  > > > gunpoint. They took everything these kids had on
>  > > them and before the
>  > > > incident was finished, one of them had been
>  > > pistol-whipped across the
>  > > > face.
>  > > > While I did not witness the actual event, I did
>  > > watch the aftermath
>  > > > unfold.
>  > > > The injured kid was pretty beaten up, and
>  > > bleeding. his friends took him
>  > > > to
>  > > > the hospital and the party was shut down almost
>  > > immediately. We got out of
>  > > > there as quickly as possible, shocked and
>  > > disturbed by what had happened.
>  > > >
>  > > > Nobody could have anticipated something like this
>  > > and nobody is to blame
>  > > > for
>  > > > what happened. In reflecting on this situation it
>  > > occurred to me that we
>  > > > spend a lot of time in dodgy neighborhoods (both
>  > > inside and out,) off our
>  > > > heads, partying without a care in the world. and
>  > > yes, that is what a
>  > > > renegade is all about. But, paying attention to
>  > > what is going on around
>  > > > you
>  > > > and being able to react to safety concerns is of
>  > > the utmost importance.
>  > > > This
>  > > > could have happened anywhere, to anyone and it's
>  > > very unfortunate that it
>  > > > happened on Friday. A major lesson learned is
>  > > simple awareness of your
>  > > > surroundings at all times, especially when you are
>  > > outside, at night, in
>  > > > one
>  > > > of the worst neighborhoods in the city. I think
>  > > the crew throwing this
>  > > > party
>  > > > reacted in an excellent way by ensuring that the
>  > > injured party kid got a
>  > > > ride to the hospital and shutting down the party
>  > > as soon as possible. In
>  > > > my
>  > > > discussions of this on Saturday and Sunday I
>  > > discovered that False Profit
>  > > > hired a security guard for their most recent
>  > > renegade due to the
>  > > > neighborhood that they had chosen (hunters point
>  > > area). It's possible that
>  > > > a
>  > > > security guard may have prevented this situation -
>  > > but it's also very
>  > > > possible that they would have had no impact.
>  > > >
>  > > > I am posting this on a few tribes with the
>  > > intention of drumming up some
>  > > > conversation and awareness regarding safety
>  > > concerns at parties around the
>  > > > city. I think it's really important to discuss
>  > > incidents like this and
>  > > > learn
>  > > > from them to improve the quality of our enjoyment
>  > > and the safety at events
>  > > > like this. This was the first time I have ever
>  > > even heard of violence like
>  > > > this at a party. sure, the cops have invaded our
>  > > good times on occasion,
>  > > > but
>  > > > never a group of violent gun-toting gangsters.
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > SFR: Ranger
>  > > > San Francisco
>  > > > plurranger@hotmail.com
>  > > > Who knows where the night leads
>  > > > It's dark and no one can see
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > From: "Danny Picard" <blooshaman@hotmail.com>
>  > > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>  > > > Subject: [sfraves] Tonight???
>  > > > Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:51:18 -0700
>  > > >
>  > > > Hey everyone, it is great to be back home after a
>  > > very crazy weekend.  I
>  > > > hope you are all doing great-ish.  I have a couple
>  > > of friends up from LA
>  > > > and
>  > > > I am trying to find something for us to do tonight
>  > > on the "unexpensive"
>  > > > side
>  > > > of things.  We were going to check out the Titanic
>  > > exhibit, but 22$ bux
>  > > > was
>  > > > a bit steep.  If anyone has suggestions, please
>  > > let me know.  Mathew
>  > > > Barney
>  > > > exhibit at MOMA?  How is that?  Any weeklies?
>  > > Movies worth seeing? I have
>  > > > no
>  > > > idea and my brain is still trying to figure out
>  > > what happenned at the
>  > > > campout  lol
>  > > > oops
>  > > > Love ya'll!
>  > > > Danny
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > "Vergoofin der flicke stoobin mit der brk-brk
>  > > > yubetcha!" -Swedish Chef
>  > > >
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night

funny thing is, is that everyone thinks of the area of town that
myself and jack triumph live in (houses about 2 blocks from each
other) as a ghetto, yet I can't think of one act of violence within 5
miles of our houses since I moved out here in 2003.

West Side for lyfe.



On 8/4/06, Ranger - <plurranger@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Scottsdale is a trip.. lot's of redneck violence in all the surrounding
> communities.. that fact that they made it to a nice house isn't too
> surprising.. there are a lots of REALLY nice houses out there - cause
> compared to Cali it is cheap as hell.  My ex GF's dad is one of the best
> plastic surgeons in the south west and their house is in a neighborhood
> where everyone designs and builds their own homes custom, on some mountain
> everyone climbs. Yet his son has all kinds of violent friends and is a
> braller, while the other son died from H.  Now.. you tell me where to draw
> the line.
>
> Point is.. you can't escape redneck/gang violence without first protecting
> community.   If everyone does their job of raising conciousness, looking out
> for others, planning for safety.. I think we won't hear much more about
> violence.. cause it seems to be on an upswning.. so let's stomp it out!
>
>
>
> SFR: Ranger
> San Francisco
> plurranger@hotmail.com
> Who knows where the night leads
> It's dark and no one can see
>
>
>
>
>
> From: "John Dee" <antitux@gmail.com>
> To: "Ranger -" <plurranger@hotmail.com>
> CC: freakzone@mindspring.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night
> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:22:58 -0700
>
> I knew of someone out here who got stabbed at a house party up in
> north scottsdale, which is one of the ritzy areas of town in phoenix.
>
>
> On 8/4/06, Ranger - <plurranger@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Geezus.. it just gets worse?  Filmed.. omg!!!
> >
> >I am so happy they caught those fuckers.  Sorry to swear but that really
> >fits the bill.
> >
> >I lived in Santa Cruz for 8 years but only from 1997 on.. always seemed so
> >rediculously calm.. I had a hard time leaving.. still lovin the cruz and
> >going back foir a beach party this weekend.  Just had to end this on a good
> >SC note :)
> >
> >Crazy Y'all ~
> >
> >SFR: Ranger
> >San Francisco
> >plurranger@hotmail.com
> >Who knows where the night leads
> >It's dark and no one can see
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >From: "Sean" <freakzone@mindspring.com>
> >To: <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night
> >Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:15:32 -0700
> >
> >I still have the newspaper article about what happened. The police caught
> >the guys who did it the same night. They were driving around Watsonville
> >with the gun in the car.
> >
> >There was no phone in that warehouse and a friend and I had to jump a fence
> >in the back and run to a neighbor's house about 1/4 mile down the road
> >where
> >they called the police and ambulance.
> >
> >I remember that someone was filming the party all night with a camera on a
> >tripod in the corner. Apparently, they used the footage at the trial as it
> >showed people getting shot-up.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  > -----Original Message-----
> >  > From: Eric Spire [mailto:ericspire@yahoo.com]
> >  > Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 7:23 PM
> >  > To: Sean; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> >  > Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night
> >  >
> >  > I was there too. J-Bot who then just went by his name,
> >  > James was spnning, and  I was leaning on the roll-up
> >  > door when the shots came through. One of my friends
> >  > got shot in the leg. I was the first person to get to
> >  > the guy who died, and my old friend Jason aka: snappy
> >  > did what EMT stuff he could.
> >  >
> >  > That party left me tripped out for weeks. It occurred
> >  > in the late Spring of 1993.
> >  >
> >  > E
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > --- Sean <freakzone@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >  >
> >  > > That sucks big time.
> >  > >
> >  > > Many years ago, I was at a warehouse party near
> >  > > Santa Cruz. They had a big
> >  > > security guy working the door. A few local gangsters
> >  > > showed up and tried to
> >  > > get but instead scuffled with the security and were
> >  > > sent on their way.
> >  > >
> >  > > They came back with a rifle and started shooting
> >  > > through the warehouse's
> >  > > closed roll up door. A few people took some bullets
> >  > > including one guy who
> >  > > got hit in the head and died.
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > > > -----Original Message-----
> >  > > > From: Ranger - [mailto:plurranger@hotmail.com]
> >  > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:31 PM
> >  > > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> >  > > > Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday
> >  > > Night
> >  > > >
> >  > > > I just wanted to cross-post the comments from the
> >  > > incident that happened
> >  > > > at
> >  > > > the WOM crews party Friday night which are effects
> >  > > from inner city late
> >  > > > night parties in remote locations that should get
> >  > > everyone thinkign about
> >  > > > the safety of the party-goers.. an important issue
> >  > > for sure.
> >  > > >
> >  > > >
> >  > > > This from tribe:
> >  > > >
> >  > > > Gang violence at Friday's renegadeToday, 10:26 AM
> >  > > >
> >  > > > On Friday night there was a renegade on the jetty
> >  > > near pound SF. Great
> >  > > > party, good vibe, lots of friendly diverse people,
> >  > > top notch music and
> >  > > > some
> >  > > > excellent fire spinning. Around 4:30 several
> >  > > unfriendly local thugs
> >  > > > stumbled
> >  > > > upon the party with eyes wide like they had just
> >  > > found a liquor store with
> >  > > > no attendant. They approached 2 party partygoers
> >  > > and robbed them at
> >  > > > gunpoint. They took everything these kids had on
> >  > > them and before the
> >  > > > incident was finished, one of them had been
> >  > > pistol-whipped across the
> >  > > > face.
> >  > > > While I did not witness the actual event, I did
> >  > > watch the aftermath
> >  > > > unfold.
> >  > > > The injured kid was pretty beaten up, and
> >  > > bleeding. his friends took him
> >  > > > to
> >  > > > the hospital and the party was shut down almost
> >  > > immediately. We got out of
> >  > > > there as quickly as possible, shocked and
> >  > > disturbed by what had happened.
> >  > > >
> >  > > > Nobody could have anticipated something like this
> >  > > and nobody is to blame
> >  > > > for
> >  > > > what happened. In reflecting on this situation it
> >  > > occurred to me that we
> >  > > > spend a lot of time in dodgy neighborhoods (both
> >  > > inside and out,) off our
> >  > > > heads, partying without a care in the world. and
> >  > > yes, that is what a
> >  > > > renegade is all about. But, paying attention to
> >  > > what is going on around
> >  > > > you
> >  > > > and being able to react to safety concerns is of
> >  > > the utmost importance.
> >  > > > This
> >  > > > could have happened anywhere, to anyone and it's
> >  > > very unfortunate that it
> >  > > > happened on Friday. A major lesson learned is
> >  > > simple awareness of your
> >  > > > surroundings at all times, especially when you are
> >  > > outside, at night, in
> >  > > > one
> >  > > > of the worst neighborhoods in the city. I think
> >  > > the crew throwing this
> >  > > > party
> >  > > > reacted in an excellent way by ensuring that the
> >  > > injured party kid got a
> >  > > > ride to the hospital and shutting down the party
> >  > > as soon as possible. In
> >  > > > my
> >  > > > discussions of this on Saturday and Sunday I
> >  > > discovered that False Profit
> >  > > > hired a security guard for their most recent
> >  > > renegade due to the
> >  > > > neighborhood that they had chosen (hunters point
> >  > > area). It's possible that
> >  > > > a
> >  > > > security guard may have prevented this situation -
> >  > > but it's also very
> >  > > > possible that they would have had no impact.
> >  > > >
> >  > > > I am posting this on a few tribes with the
> >  > > intention of drumming up some
> >  > > > conversation and awareness regarding safety
> >  > > concerns at parties around the
> >  > > > city. I think it's really important to discuss
> >  > > incidents like this and
> >  > > > learn
> >  > > > from them to improve the quality of our enjoyment
> >  > > and the safety at events
> >  > > > like this. This was the first time I have ever
> >  > > even heard of violence like
> >  > > > this at a party. sure, the cops have invaded our
> >  > > good times on occasion,
> >  > > > but
> >  > > > never a group of violent gun-toting gangsters.
> >  > > >
> >  > > >
> >  > > >
> >  > > > SFR: Ranger
> >  > > > San Francisco
> >  > > > plurranger@hotmail.com
> >  > > > Who knows where the night leads
> >  > > > It's dark and no one can see
> >  > > >
> >  > > >
> >  > > >
> >  > > >
> >  > > >
> >  > > > From: "Danny Picard" <blooshaman@hotmail.com>
> >  > > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> >  > > > Subject: [sfraves] Tonight???
> >  > > > Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:51:18 -0700
> >  > > >
> >  > > > Hey everyone, it is great to be back home after a
> >  > > very crazy weekend.  I
> >  > > > hope you are all doing great-ish.  I have a couple
> >  > > of friends up from LA
> >  > > > and
> >  > > > I am trying to find something for us to do tonight
> >  > > on the "unexpensive"
> >  > > > side
> >  > > > of things.  We were going to check out the Titanic
> >  > > exhibit, but 22$ bux
> >  > > > was
> >  > > > a bit steep.  If anyone has suggestions, please
> >  > > let me know.  Mathew
> >  > > > Barney
> >  > > > exhibit at MOMA?  How is that?  Any weeklies?
> >  > > Movies worth seeing? I have
> >  > > > no
> >  > > > idea and my brain is still trying to figure out
> >  > > what happenned at the
> >  > > > campout  lol
> >  > > > oops
> >  > > > Love ya'll!
> >  > > > Danny
> >  > > >
> >  > > >
> >  > > >
> >  > > > "Vergoofin der flicke stoobin mit der brk-brk
> >  > > > yubetcha!" -Swedish Chef
> >  > > >
> >  > > > http://www.myspace.com/spiffythewarrior
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night

Last year right around December there was an incident @ Modified where some 
gang bangers came in and started stopping people in the party and pocket 
checking them on the spot.  Eventually they were asked to leave and offered 
refunds.  I believe a fight started and all hell broke loose.  They were all 
shoved outside the venue and the door was locked but unfortunatly one of the 
guys who helps out and djs (Andrew K) was trapped outside with them.  They 
beat him up with a 2x4 and he was hospitalized for at the very minimum 
several days. He's ok now and was back on his feet pretty quickly but it 
really brings to light the dangers of us (party goers) being forced by the 
cities to throw renegade events in ghetto's.

Another event happened at the Crack House in Oakland where some gang bangers 
stole the cash box at the door and I believe fired some shots off.  These 
guys were locals and always seen hangin around the venue.  I actually 
believe there were several incidents there that compelled people to stop 
using the venue and in general brought great concern to partying in Oakland. 
PERIOD.

It just seemed like the gangtsa / ghetto people had finally figured out that 
they could swoop up on unsuspecting ravers or even force there way into 
events and do what they want.  Even when there was security present.

Its a very scary reality we have to deal with sometimes.




Paul


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Dee" <antitux@gmail.com>
To: "Ranger -" <plurranger@hotmail.com>
Cc: <freakzone@mindspring.com>; <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night


> funny thing is, is that everyone thinks of the area of town that
> myself and jack triumph live in (houses about 2 blocks from each
> other) as a ghetto, yet I can't think of one act of violence within 5
> miles of our houses since I moved out here in 2003.
>
> West Side for lyfe.
>
>
>
> On 8/4/06, Ranger - <plurranger@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Scottsdale is a trip.. lot's of redneck violence in all the surrounding
>> communities.. that fact that they made it to a nice house isn't too
>> surprising.. there are a lots of REALLY nice houses out there - cause
>> compared to Cali it is cheap as hell.  My ex GF's dad is one of the best
>> plastic surgeons in the south west and their house is in a neighborhood
>> where everyone designs and builds their own homes custom, on some 
>> mountain
>> everyone climbs. Yet his son has all kinds of violent friends and is a
>> braller, while the other son died from H.  Now.. you tell me where to 
>> draw
>> the line.
>>
>> Point is.. you can't escape redneck/gang violence without first 
>> protecting
>> community.   If everyone does their job of raising conciousness, looking 
>> out
>> for others, planning for safety.. I think we won't hear much more about
>> violence.. cause it seems to be on an upswning.. so let's stomp it out!
>>
>>
>>
>> SFR: Ranger
>> San Francisco
>> plurranger@hotmail.com
>> Who knows where the night leads
>> It's dark and no one can see
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: "John Dee" <antitux@gmail.com>
>> To: "Ranger -" <plurranger@hotmail.com>
>> CC: freakzone@mindspring.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night
>> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:22:58 -0700
>>
>> I knew of someone out here who got stabbed at a house party up in
>> north scottsdale, which is one of the ritzy areas of town in phoenix.
>>
>>
>> On 8/4/06, Ranger - <plurranger@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >Geezus.. it just gets worse?  Filmed.. omg!!!
>> >
>> >I am so happy they caught those fuckers.  Sorry to swear but that really
>> >fits the bill.
>> >
>> >I lived in Santa Cruz for 8 years but only from 1997 on.. always seemed 
>> >so
>> >rediculously calm.. I had a hard time leaving.. still lovin the cruz and
>> >going back foir a beach party this weekend.  Just had to end this on a 
>> >good
>> >SC note :)
>> >
>> >Crazy Y'all ~
>> >
>> >SFR: Ranger
>> >San Francisco
>> >plurranger@hotmail.com
>> >Who knows where the night leads
>> >It's dark and no one can see
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >From: "Sean" <freakzone@mindspring.com>
>> >To: <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>> >Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night
>> >Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:15:32 -0700
>> >
>> >I still have the newspaper article about what happened. The police 
>> >caught
>> >the guys who did it the same night. They were driving around Watsonville
>> >with the gun in the car.
>> >
>> >There was no phone in that warehouse and a friend and I had to jump a 
>> >fence
>> >in the back and run to a neighbor's house about 1/4 mile down the road
>> >where
>> >they called the police and ambulance.
>> >
>> >I remember that someone was filming the party all night with a camera on 
>> >a
>> >tripod in the corner. Apparently, they used the footage at the trial as 
>> >it
>> >showed people getting shot-up.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >  > -----Original Message-----
>> >  > From: Eric Spire [mailto:ericspire@yahoo.com]
>> >  > Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 7:23 PM
>> >  > To: Sean; sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> >  > Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday Night
>> >  >
>> >  > I was there too. J-Bot who then just went by his name,
>> >  > James was spnning, and  I was leaning on the roll-up
>> >  > door when the shots came through. One of my friends
>> >  > got shot in the leg. I was the first person to get to
>> >  > the guy who died, and my old friend Jason aka: snappy
>> >  > did what EMT stuff he could.
>> >  >
>> >  > That party left me tripped out for weeks. It occurred
>> >  > in the late Spring of 1993.
>> >  >
>> >  > E
>> >  >
>> >  >
>> >  > --- Sean <freakzone@mindspring.com> wrote:
>> >  >
>> >  > > That sucks big time.
>> >  > >
>> >  > > Many years ago, I was at a warehouse party near
>> >  > > Santa Cruz. They had a big
>> >  > > security guy working the door. A few local gangsters
>> >  > > showed up and tried to
>> >  > > get but instead scuffled with the security and were
>> >  > > sent on their way.
>> >  > >
>> >  > > They came back with a rifle and started shooting
>> >  > > through the warehouse's
>> >  > > closed roll up door. A few people took some bullets
>> >  > > including one guy who
>> >  > > got hit in the head and died.
>> >  > >
>> >  > >
>> >  > >
>> >  > >
>> >  > >
>> >  > >
>> >  > >
>> >  > >
>> >  > > > -----Original Message-----
>> >  > > > From: Ranger - [mailto:plurranger@hotmail.com]
>> >  > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:31 PM
>> >  > > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> >  > > > Subject: RE: [sfraves] Renegade Violence Friday
>> >  > > Night
>> >  > > >
>> >  > > > I just wanted to cross-post the comments from the
>> >  > > incident that happened
>> >  > > > at
>> >  > > > the WOM crews party Friday night which are effects
>> >  > > from inner city late
>> >  > > > night parties in remote locations that should get
>> >  > > everyone thinkign about
>> >  > > > the safety of the party-goers.. an important issue
>> >  > > for sure.
>> >  > > >
>> >  > > >
>> >  > > > This from tribe:
>> >  > > >
>> >  > > > Gang violence at Friday's renegadeToday, 10:26 AM
>> >  > > >
>> >  > > > On Friday night there was a renegade on the jetty
>> >  > > near pound SF. Great
>> >  > > > party, good vibe, lots of friendly diverse people,
>> >  > > top notch music and
>> >  > > > some
>> >  > > > excellent fire spinning. Around 4:30 several
>> >  > > unfriendly local thugs
>> >  > > > stumbled
>> >  > > > upon the party with eyes wide like they had just
>> >  > > found a liquor store with
>> >  > > > no attendant. They approached 2 party partygoers
>> >  > > and robbed them at
>> >  > > > gunpoint. They took everything these kids had on
>> >  > > them and before the
>> >  > > > incident was finished, one of them had been
>> >  > > pistol-whipped across the
>> >  > > > face.
>> >  > > > While I did not witness the actual event, I did
>> >  > > watch the aftermath
>> >  > > > unfold.
>> >  > > > The injured kid was pretty beaten up, and
>> >  > > bleeding. his friends took him
>> >  > > > to
>> >  > > > the hospital and the party was shut down almost
>> >  > > immediately. We got out of
>> >  > > > there as quickly as possible, shocked and
>> >  > > disturbed by what had happened.
>> >  > > >
>> >  > > > Nobody could have anticipated something like this
>> >  > > and nobody is to blame
>> >  > > > for
>> >  > > > what happened. In reflecting on this situation it
>> >  > > occurred to me that we
>> >  > > > spend a lot of time in dodgy neighborhoods (both
>> >  > > inside and out,) off our
>> >  > > > heads, partying without a care in the world. and
>> >  > > yes, that is what a
>> >  > > > renegade is all about. But, paying attention to
>> >  > > what is going on around
>> >  > > > you
>> >  > > > and being able to react to safety concerns is of
>> >  > > the utmost importance.
>> >  > > > This
>> >  > > > could have happened anywhere, to anyone and it's
>> >  > > very unfortunate that it
>> >  > > > happened on Friday. A major lesson learned is
>> >  > > simple awareness of your
>> >  > > > surroundings at all times, especially when you are
>> >  > > outside, at night, in
>> >  > > > one
>> >  > > > of the worst neighborhoods in the city. I think
>> >  > > the crew throwing this
>> >  > > > party
>> >  > > > reacted in an excellent way by ensuring that the
>> >  > > injured party kid got a
>> >  > > > ride to the hospital and shutting down the party
>> >  > > as soon as possible. In
>> >  > > > my
>> >  > > > discussions of this on Saturday and Sunday I
>> >  > > discovered that False Profit
>> >  > > > hired a security guard for their most recent
>> >  > > renegade due to the
>> >  > > > neighborhood that they had chosen (hunters point
>> >  > > area). It's possible that
>> >  > > > a
>> >  > > > security guard may have prevented this situation -
>> >  > > but it's also very
>> >  > > > possible that they would have had no impact.
>> >  > > >
>> >  > > > I am posting this on a few tribes with the
>> >  > > intention of drumming up some
>> >  > > > conversation and awareness regarding safety
>> >  > > concerns at parties around the
>> >  > > > city. I think it's really important to discuss
>> >  > > incidents like this and
>> >  > > > learn
>> >  > > > from them to improve the quality of our enjoyment
>> >  > > and the safety at events
>> >  > > > like this. This was the first time I have ever
>> >  > > even heard of violence like
>> >  > > > this at a party. sure, the cops have invaded our
>> >  > > good times on occasion,
>> >  > > > but
>> >  > > > never a group of violent gun-toting gangsters.
>> >  > > >
>> >  > > >
>> >  > > >
>> >  > > > SFR: Ranger
>> >  > > > San Francisco
>> >  > > > plurranger@hotmail.com
>> >  > > > Who knows where the night leads
>> >  > > > It's dark and no one can see
>> >  > > >
>> >  > > >
>> >  > > >
>> >  > > >
>> >  > > >
>> >  > > > From: "Danny Picard" <blooshaman@hotmail.com>
>> >  > > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> >  > > > Subject: [sfraves] Tonight???
>> >  > > > Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:51:18 -0700
>> >  > > >
>> >  > > > Hey everyone, it is great to be back home after a
>> >  > > very crazy weekend.  I
>> >  > > > hope you are all doing great-ish.  I have a couple
>> >  > > of friends up from LA
>> >  > > > and
>> >  > > > I am trying to find something for us to do tonight
>> >  > > on the "unexpensive"
>> >  > > > side
>> >  > > > of things.  We were going to check out the Titanic
>> >  > > exhibit, but 22$ bux
>> >  > > > was
>> >  > > > a bit steep.  If anyone has suggestions, please
>> >  > > let me know.  Mathew
>> >  > > > Barney
>> >  > > > exhibit at MOMA?  How is that?  Any weeklies?
>> >  > > Movies worth seeing? I have
>> >  > > > no
>> >  > > > idea and my brain is still trying to figure out
>> >  > > what happenned at the
>> >  > > > campout  lol
>> >  > > > oops
>> >  > > > Love ya'll!
>> >  > > > Danny
>> >  > > >
>> >  > > >
>> >  > > >
>> >  > > > "Vergoofin der flicke stoobin mit der brk-brk
>> >  > > > yubetcha!" -Swedish Chef
>> >  > > >
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>> >  > > > http://people.tribe.net/spiffy
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Subject: [sfraves] the happs

My g/f is busy with her final summer school project, and I've had my
head so far up my job's ass it's been impossible to keep my ear to the
ground.

So I turn to you, my bay area beat freq peeps, to bail me out once
again.  Where might I go to hear some tasty bass tonight and get
schwilly?



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Subject: [sfraves] Violence and Liability....

Here's what I said in 1999 about Oakland shutting down
legal parties....

" Silver Pearl Records' Eric Spire voices the
conundrum: "It seems to me that they're trying to take
the liability away, but they may be increasing it.
They are not going to be issuing permits, but events
are going to happen within their city limits anyhow,
and they're not going to know about them." 

Going on to say that permitted events were safer,
because at least the event attendees had the
protection of the police outside the event. With no
permits, "thug" violence, muggings, vandalism, etc ...
are an obvious outcome.

.... I am also writing a little story about the party
in 1993 where the shooting happpened. I will post it
later.

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"All matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. We are all one 
consciousness experiencing itself - subjectively. There is no such thing 
as death, Life is only a dream. We are the imaginations of ourselves." 
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tonight...
go to folded @ anu ---> http://foldedsf.com/

i'm hitting that after an art show in soma...which i'm late too...k...
love ya jason...ttyl

xoxo

jason hemmenway <deceptakahn@gmail.com> wrote: My g/f is busy with her final summer school project, and I've had my
head so far up my job's ass it's been impossible to keep my ear to the
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So I turn to you, my bay area beat freq peeps, to bail me out once
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schwilly?



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aim deceptajason

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Isn't there something about matter that involves mass?  Seems like slow 
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that's what i'm here for hon... party google layla!
--- jason hemmenway <deceptakahn@gmail.com> wrote:

> you rock.  i didn't want to miss this one.
> 
> 
> gracias.
> 
> -jasonh
> 
> On 8/4/06, Layla Lewis <layla6942@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > alchemy at  gingerbread warehouse with the
> lawgiverz,
> > soteg, hypnotech, seedling escape, mozaic, zapper
> and
> > more. gonna be a sick ass wicked night of bass
> driven
> > breaks madness!
> >
> > --- jason hemmenway <deceptakahn@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
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> project,
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> to
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> > > ground.
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> to
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> > > again.  Where might I go to hear some tasty bass
> > > tonight and get
> > > schwilly?
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There's a breaks party goin' down a la gingerbread house.   www.yno5.com
cheers

On 8/4/06, Layla Lewis <layla6942@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> that's what i'm here for hon... party google layla!
> --- jason hemmenway <deceptakahn@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > you rock.  i didn't want to miss this one.
> >
> >
> > gracias.
> >
> > -jasonh
> >
> > On 8/4/06, Layla Lewis <layla6942@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > alchemy at  gingerbread warehouse with the
> > lawgiverz,
> > > soteg, hypnotech, seedling escape, mozaic, zapper
> > and
> > > more. gonna be a sick ass wicked night of bass
> > driven
> > > breaks madness!
> > >
> > > --- jason hemmenway <deceptakahn@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > My g/f is busy with her final summer school
> > project,
> > > > and I've had my
> > > > head so far up my job's ass it's been impossible
> > to
> > > > keep my ear to the
> > > > ground.
> > > >
> > > > So I turn to you, my bay area beat freq peeps,
> > to
> > > > bail me out once
> > > > again.  Where might I go to hear some tasty bass
> > > > tonight and get
> > > > schwilly?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > jason
> > > > aka
> > > > deceptakahn
> > > > http://deceptakahn.com
> > > > aim deceptajason
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Subject: Re: Re: [sfraves] the happs

There is also an opulent Temple Fundraiser going on that is teaming up with 
Deep End called
GroundScore:
:: Lineup ::
1000 - Melyss
1130 - Mike Giannini
1230 - shOOey & Clarkie tagteam
0200 - Syd Gris

Ya.. this is a do not miss for sure.

Lawgiverz (Trigger Records)
Bill Bless/S.O.T.E.G. (Bless Records)
Hypnotech (Addictech.com)
Mozaic (Troubled Youth/13 Moontribe)
Boreta (Troubled Youth)
Dov (Multi Music)
The Seedling Escape / Ooah & Kitty D (Glitch Mob)
Friction (Yellow No. 5)
Zapper Hardware Live Set (Ooze System/369 Rekchordz)
Jocelyn (Get Freaky)
evan bender (Yellow No.5)
Dual Enviroments of Alchemical Transformation
Elixirs & Sustenance brought to us by Convergence
Incandescent Burlesque & Aerial Performances Throughout the Evening
Sound By JK Sound
Produced By Alchemy of Sound and Yellow No. 5





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From: "Ben Haus" <benhaus@gmail.com>
To: "Layla Lewis" <layla6942@yahoo.com>
CC: "jason hemmenway" <deceptakahn@gmail.com>, sfraves@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: Re: [sfraves] the happs
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 20:14:47 -0700

There's a breaks party goin' down a la gingerbread house.   www.yno5.com
cheers

On 8/4/06, Layla Lewis <layla6942@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>that's what i'm here for hon... party google layla!
>--- jason hemmenway <deceptakahn@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > you rock.  i didn't want to miss this one.
> >
> >
> > gracias.
> >
> > -jasonh
> >
> > On 8/4/06, Layla Lewis <layla6942@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > alchemy at  gingerbread warehouse with the
> > lawgiverz,
> > > soteg, hypnotech, seedling escape, mozaic, zapper
> > and
> > > more. gonna be a sick ass wicked night of bass
> > driven
> > > breaks madness!
> > >
> > > --- jason hemmenway <deceptakahn@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > My g/f is busy with her final summer school
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> > > > ground.
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> > > > again.  Where might I go to hear some tasty bass
> > > > tonight and get
> > > > schwilly?
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> > > >
> > > >
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Six Arrested, Jail Solidarity, 30,000 Dollar Bail for Dance Party

 
At least 6 arrested at a zombie themed dance party at nicollet light rail station sat. Bail set at 30,000.00 each. charged with simulation of weapons of mass destruction for dancing to homemade radios. 

http://twincities.indymedia.org/newswire/display/28018/index.php


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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Six Arrested, Jail Solidarity, 30,000 Dollar Bail for Dance  Party

Simulating weapons of mass destruction? Thats a
fucking crime? How rediculous. So if I build a toy
bomb out of something I get thrown in jail? I dont
know why this suprises me.

-Delia

--- Apollo <apollo@speakeasy.org> wrote:

> 
> 
> Six Arrested, Jail Solidarity, 30,000 Dollar Bail
> for Dance Party
> 
>  
> At least 6 arrested at a zombie themed dance party
> at nicollet light rail station sat. Bail set at
> 30,000.00 each. charged with simulation of weapons
> of mass destruction for dancing to homemade radios. 
> 
>
http://twincities.indymedia.org/newswire/display/28018/index.php
> 
> 
> MySpace:  http://www.myspace.com/DJApollo 
> 
> Tribenet:  
>
<http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k>http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k
> 
>                 
> House Music 101: 
>
http://livingart.com/raving/articles/housemusic101.htm
> 
> "Americans like to talk about (or be told about)
> Democracy but, when put to the test, usually find it
> to be an 'inconvenience.' We have opted instead for
> an authoritarian system disguised as a Democracy. We
> pay through the nose for an enormous
> joke-of-a-government, let it push us around, and
> then wonder how all those assholes got in there." -
> Frank Zappa 
> 
> "Music is prophecy, its style and economic
> organization are ahead of the rest of society. It
> makes audible the new world that will gradually
> become visible."
> -Jacques Attali in his seminal text "Noise"  


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ah yes... but mass is a function of energy, remember?

E=MC^2

pxd


On Aug 4, 2006, at 6:20 PM, Ranger - wrote:

> Isn't there something about matter that involves mass?  Seems like 
> slow moving energy wouldn't weigh very much. ;>
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>
>
> SFR: Ranger
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> Who knows where the night leads
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> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:50:50 -0700 (PDT)
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>
> "All matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. We are all 
> one
> consciousness experiencing itself - subjectively. There is no such 
> thing
> as death, Life is only a dream. We are the imaginations of ourselves."
> - Bill Hicks
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Subject: [sfraves] folded! Re: [sfraves] the happs

Tonight is special, too- we've got Bryan Jones (chicago boy with 80000 tracks out right now), and Leonard and Naz, illustrious sages of In House records...

Whee, come down bitches!
-g

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tonight...
go to folded @ anu ---> http://foldedsf.com/

i'm hitting that after an art show in soma...which i'm late too...k...
love ya jason...ttyl

xoxo

jason hemmenway <deceptakahn@gmail.com> wrote: My g/f is busy with her final summer school project, and I've had my
head so far up my job's ass it's been impossible to keep my ear to the
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So I turn to you, my bay area beat freq peeps, to bail me out once
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schwilly?



-- 
jason
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Ryoji Ikeda - datamatics [ver.1.0b] 
Produced by forma 
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Commissioned by AV Festival and ZeroOne San Jose and ISEA 2006. Supported by Arts Council England, Yamaguchi Center for Arts and Media (YCAM) and Recombinant Media Labs. 

THURSDAY AUGUST 10TH 
2 sessions at 7:00pm sharp and 10:30pm 

RECOMBINANT MEDIA LABS 
San Francisco 
$15 
Reservations are strongly suggested. 
call 650.255.8947 for more info 



Using pure data as a source for sound and visuals, datamatics combines abstract and mimetic presentations of matter, time and space in a powerful and breathtakingly accomplished work. 

datamatics is the second audiovisual concert in Ryoji Ikeda?s datamatics series? an art project that explores the potential to perceive the invisible multi?substance of data that permeates our world. For datamatics [ver.1.0b], Ikeda presents a special surround-sound version of his datamatics concert. 

Projecting dynamic, computer?generated imagery ? in pared down black and white with striking colour accents, Ikeda?s intense yet minimal graphic renderings of data progress through multiple dimensions. From 2D sequences of patterns derived from hard drive errors and studies of software code, the imagery transforms into dramatic, rotating views of the universe in 3D, whilst the final scenes add a further dimension as four-dimensional mathematical processing opens up spectacular and seemingly infinite vistas. 

A powerful and hypnotic soundtrack reflects the imagery through a meticulous layering of sonic components to produce immense and apparently boundless acoustic spaces. 

datamatics? alongside the recently released and critically acclaimed dataplex album(raster-noton)? marks a significant and exciting progression in Ikeda?s work. 

Ryoji Ikeda 
Japan's leading electronic composer/artist, Ryoji Ikeda, focuses on the minutiae of ultrasonics, frequencies and the essential characteristics of sound itself. Since 1995, Ikeda has been intensely active through concerts, installations, and recordings, integrating sound, acoustics and sublime imagery. In the artist?s works, music, time and space are shaped by mathematical methods as Ikeda explores sound as sensation, pulling apart its physical properties to reveal its relationship with human perception. 

Ikeda has gained a reputation as one of the few international artists working convincingly across both visual and sonic media. Using computer and digital technologies to the utmost limit, his audiovisual concerts datamatics (2006 ? present), C4I (2004 ? present) and formula (2000 ? 2006) suggest a unique orientation for our future multimedia environment and culture. His acclaimed installations data.spectra (2005), spectra [for terminal 5, jfk] (2004), spectra II (2002) and db (2002) continue to diffuse Ikeda?s aesthetic of ?ultra minimalism? to the art world. Ikeda?s latest body of work, datamatics, is a long-term programme of moving image, sculptural, sound and new media works that use data as their theme and material to explore the ways in which abstracted views of reality ? data ? are used to encode, understand and control the world. 

He has been hailed by critics as one of the most radical and innovative contemporary composers for his live performances, sound installations and album releases. His albums +/- (Touch, 1996), 0°C (Touch, 1998) and matrix (Touch, 2000) pioneered a new minimal world of electronic music, employing sine waves, electronic "glitch" sounds, and white noise. Ikeda released his critically acclaimed, seventh solo album entitled dataplex (raster-noton), as part of the datamatics series, in 2005. 


The versatile range of Ikeda's research is demonstrated by his collaborations with Carsten Nicolai on the project cyclo. and with choreographer William Forsythe/Frankfurt Ballett, artist Hiroshi Sugimoto, architect Toyo Ito and artist collective Dumb Type, among others. 

Ikeda has exhibited and performed at many of the world's leading festivals and venues, including the Australian Centre for the Moving Image, 2005 (Melbourne); Centre Pompidou 2004 and 2001, Musée d'Art Moderne de la Ville 1999, and La Villette 2002 (all Paris); Sónar 1999 and 2006 (Barcelona); Architectural Association 2002, Barbican 2006, Hayward Gallery 2000, Millennium Dome 2000, Queen Elizabeth Hall 2000, Tate Modern Turbine Hall 2006 (all London); Auditorium Parco della Musica 2003 (Rome); ICC 1999 and 2005, Tokyo International Forum 2006 (Tokyo); Göteborg Biennial 2003 (Göteborg). In 2001, Ikeda was awarded the Ars Electronica Golden Nica prize in the digital music category and he was short-listed for a World Technology Award in 2003. 

www.ryojiikeda.com 


MySpace:  http://www.myspace.com/DJApollo 

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House Music 101:  http://livingart.com/raving/articles/housemusic101.htm

"Americans like to talk about (or be told about) Democracy but, when put to the test, usually find it to be an 'inconvenience.' We have opted instead for an authoritarian system disguised as a Democracy. We pay through the nose for an enormous joke-of-a-government, let it push us around, and then wonder how all those assholes got in there." - Frank Zappa 

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: Ryoji Ikeda - datamatics [ver.1.0b]

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sounds intense

On 8/5/06, Apollo <apollo@speakeasy.org> wrote:
>
> Ryoji Ikeda - datamatics [ver.1.0b]
> Produced by forma
> www.forma.org.uk
> Commissioned by AV Festival and ZeroOne San Jose and ISEA 2006. Supported
> by Arts Council England, Yamaguchi Center for Arts and Media (YCAM) and
> Recombinant Media Labs.
>
> THURSDAY AUGUST 10TH
> 2 sessions at 7:00pm sharp and 10:30pm
>
> RECOMBINANT MEDIA LABS
> San Francisco
> $15
> Reservations are strongly suggested.
> call 650.255.8947 for more info
>
>
>
> Using pure data as a source for sound and visuals, datamatics combines
> abstract and mimetic presentations of matter, time and space in a powerfu=
l
> and breathtakingly accomplished work.
>
> datamatics is the second audiovisual concert in Ryoji Ikeda?s datamatics
> series? an art project that explores the potential to perceive the invisi=
ble
> multi?substance of data that permeates our world. For datamatics [ver.1.0=
b],
> Ikeda presents a special surround-sound version of his datamatics concert=
.
>
> Projecting dynamic, computer?generated imagery ? in pared down black and
> white with striking colour accents, Ikeda?s intense yet minimal graphic
> renderings of data progress through multiple dimensions. From 2D sequence=
s
> of patterns derived from hard drive errors and studies of software code, =
the
> imagery transforms into dramatic, rotating views of the universe in 3D,
> whilst the final scenes add a further dimension as four-dimensional
> mathematical processing opens up spectacular and seemingly infinite vista=
s.
>
> A powerful and hypnotic soundtrack reflects the imagery through a
> meticulous layering of sonic components to produce immense and apparently
> boundless acoustic spaces.
>
> datamatics? alongside the recently released and critically acclaimed
> dataplex album(raster-noton)? marks a significant and exciting progressio=
n
> in Ikeda?s work.
>
> Ryoji Ikeda
> Japan's leading electronic composer/artist, Ryoji Ikeda, focuses on the
> minutiae of ultrasonics, frequencies and the essential characteristics of
> sound itself. Since 1995, Ikeda has been intensely active through concert=
s,
> installations, and recordings, integrating sound, acoustics and sublime
> imagery. In the artist?s works, music, time and space are shaped by
> mathematical methods as Ikeda explores sound as sensation, pulling apart =
its
> physical properties to reveal its relationship with human perception.
>
> Ikeda has gained a reputation as one of the few international artists
> working convincingly across both visual and sonic media. Using computer a=
nd
> digital technologies to the utmost limit, his audiovisual concerts
> datamatics (2006 ? present), C4I (2004 ? present) and formula (2000 ? 200=
6)
> suggest a unique orientation for our future multimedia environment and
> culture. His acclaimed installations data.spectra (2005), spectra [for
> terminal 5, jfk] (2004), spectra II (2002) and db (2002) continue to diff=
use
> Ikeda?s aesthetic of ?ultra minimalism? to the art world. Ikeda?s latest
> body of work, datamatics, is a long-term programme of moving image,
> sculptural, sound and new media works that use data as their theme and
> material to explore the ways in which abstracted views of reality ? data =
?
> are used to encode, understand and control the world.
>
> He has been hailed by critics as one of the most radical and innovative
> contemporary composers for his live performances, sound installations and
> album releases. His albums +/- (Touch, 1996), 0=B0C (Touch, 1998) and mat=
rix
> (Touch, 2000) pioneered a new minimal world of electronic music, employin=
g
> sine waves, electronic "glitch" sounds, and white noise. Ikeda released h=
is
> critically acclaimed, seventh solo album entitled dataplex (raster-noton)=
,
> as part of the datamatics series, in 2005.
>
>
> The versatile range of Ikeda's research is demonstrated by his
> collaborations with Carsten Nicolai on the project cyclo. and with
> choreographer William Forsythe/Frankfurt Ballett, artist Hiroshi Sugimoto=
,
> architect Toyo Ito and artist collective Dumb Type, among others.
>
> Ikeda has exhibited and performed at many of the world's leading festival=
s
> and venues, including the Australian Centre for the Moving Image, 2005
> (Melbourne); Centre Pompidou 2004 and 2001, Mus=E9e d'Art Moderne de la V=
ille
> 1999, and La Villette 2002 (all Paris); S=F3nar 1999 and 2006 (Barcelona)=
;
> Architectural Association 2002, Barbican 2006, Hayward Gallery 2000,
> Millennium Dome 2000, Queen Elizabeth Hall 2000, Tate Modern Turbine Hall
> 2006 (all London); Auditorium Parco della Musica 2003 (Rome); ICC 1999 an=
d
> 2005, Tokyo International Forum 2006 (Tokyo); G=F6teborg Biennial 2003
> (G=F6teborg). In 2001, Ikeda was awarded the Ars Electronica Golden Nica =
prize
> in the digital music category and he was short-listed for a World Technol=
ogy
> Award in 2003.
>
> www.ryojiikeda.com
>
>
> MySpace:  http://www.myspace.com/DJApollo
>
> Tribenet:   <http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k>
> http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k
>
> House Music 101:  http://livingart.com/raving/articles/housemusic101.htm
>
> "Americans like to talk about (or be told about) Democracy but, when put
> to the test, usually find it to be an 'inconvenience.' We have opted inst=
ead
> for an authoritarian system disguised as a Democracy. We pay through the
> nose for an enormous joke-of-a-government, let it push us around, and the=
n
> wonder how all those assholes got in there." - Frank Zappa
>
> "Music is prophecy, its style and economic organization are ahead of the
> rest of society. It makes audible the new world that will gradually becom=
e
> visible."
> -Jacques Attali in his seminal text "Noise"
>

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Six Arrested, Jail Solidarity, 30,000 Dollar Bail for Dance  Party

"simulation of a weapon of mass destruction"?  WTF?  Thye're claiming tha tby dressing up as zombies they were simulating a WMD attack?

And what's up with "zombie" parties?  These seem like a bad idea to me after Seattle.

Peace,

Peter

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Six Arrested, Jail Solidarity, 30,000 Dollar Bail for Dance Party

 
At least 6 arrested at a zombie themed dance party at nicollet light rail station sat. Bail set at 30,000.00 each. charged with simulation of weapons of mass destruction for dancing to homemade radios. 

http://twincities.indymedia.org/newswire/display/28018/index.php


MySpace:  http://www.myspace.com/DJApollo 

Tribenet:   <http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k>http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k 
                
House Music 101:  http://livingart.com/raving/articles/housemusic101.htm

"Americans like to talk about (or be told about) Democracy but, when put to the test, usually find it to be an 'inconvenience.' We have opted instead for an authoritarian system disguised as a Democracy. We pay through the nose for an enormous joke-of-a-government, let it push us around, and then wonder how all those assholes got in there." - Frank Zappa 

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It sounds to me that someone in authority decided that these "homemade 
radios" looked like improvised weapons. I know that's total B.S. -- as if people 
would be dancing when there are more important things to do like tending to the 
weapons -- but that's the excuse. Looking like zombies isn't the purported 
crime here, it's having something that, absurd as it is, looks like an improvised 
weapon. 
I'd just like to see what they're talking about. If they have a boom box 
decorated to look roughly like a weapon, and it says "TO BE DROPPED ON WHITE 
HOUSE," the authorities would have something, although VERY flimsy, to hang on the 
people and use the EXCUSE of this WMD law to hassle the make-believe zombies. 
Even still, there are plenty of laws they could draw on, like laws against 
illegal assembly, lack of permits, amount of noise, complaints from the 
public,etc etc but jeeesus this sure isn't a WMD case. 
Maybe they overheard a zombie say "Whoa dude, this party is da bomb" ???

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Subject: [sfraves] Single Cell Orchestra headlining Comedy Show tonight and more...

Oaklyn Records and OtherWorld
Saturday August 5th, 2006
9:00pm-3:00am

Oaklyn Records Launch Party & Record Release

lights by:  Radiant Atmospheres and Coil
sound by:   Gateway Systems

voicemail:  510-287-5917
            510-466-5880

check out the websites for updated info: 
http://www.otherworld.ws 
http://www.oaklynrecords.com

$5 at the door
located @ Club Oasis
135 12th Street  Downtown Oakland
---------------------------------------------

the night kicks off at 9:00pm with a very special 
2hr Comedy Showcase hosted and headlined by:

Miguel Fierro (aka Single Cell Orchestra)

and featuring:

Jasper Redd 
(Comedy Central / Late Night with Carson Daily) 

Louis Katz 
(Jamie Foxx's Laffapalooza / Late Night Carson Daily)

Will Franken 
(SF Weekly 2005 Best Comedian)

Edwin Li 

Sam Arno 
 
Moshe Kasher 

Kevin Camia 

Justin Scales 

Alex Koll

and more...

*also from 9:00-11:00 we’ll be cooking up tons of 
FREE BBQ for everybody out back.  (vegi & meat)  
-------------------------------------------------

Then stick around for a night of the best live Hip
Hop, Trip Hop, & Electro with music performances by:

Azeem  *live hip hop
(OM Records / Oaklyn Records / Bomb Hip Hop /
WideHive)
http://www.myspace.com/mcazeem
http://www.crowdedcastle.com/

DJ Zeph  
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Primitive)
http://profile.myspace.com/djzeph
http://www.widehive.com/dj_zeph.html

DJ Quest  
(Space Travellers / Live Human / Hamster Breaks)
http://www.bombhiphop.com/newbomb/bombpages/quest.html

Marc Stretch  
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http://www.lookrecords.com/marchstretch.html
http://www.myspace.com/marcstretch

CatFive  *live 
(katfive.com)
http://www.katfive.com/

Joe Rice  
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bradelectro  *live
(Soulmine Records / bradelectro.com)
http://bradelectro.com/

Naked Slice
(Renegade Virus Sound System - Brooklyn, NY)
http://www.myspace.com/nakedslice

Marin
(OtherWorld)
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Howdy - thought this might be a good place to post regarding rideshare to BM, as I'm getting nothing from eplaya or craigslist.
   
  I am leaving either Tuesday afternoon or Wednesday morning, and returning to SF on Sunday. I have room for one person's gear and bike. I am looking for someone to share gas and driving. You must be responsible, reasonably sane, and...I think that's it. I'm just looking for a ride-buddy. This will be my fifth burn and I've driven there before. Solitude is nice but on a six-hour drive, lively conversation is preferred.
   
  If you or someone you know would like to discuss rideshare, please feel free to contact me at carpetelf@yahoo.com.
   
  I am renting a car, so if you are on the same schedule and conversely looking for someone to share your car, I can be flexible and go that way, too.
   
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Where's the link to a _real_ news story on the topic?   Not to be all
"Republican saboteur" on y'all or anything, but, umm, Indymedia has been
known to stretch the truth from time to time...

On 8/5/06, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> "simulation of a weapon of mass destruction"?  WTF?  Thye're claiming tha
> tby dressing up as zombies they were simulating a WMD attack?
>
> And what's up with "zombie" parties?  These seem like a bad idea to me
> after Seattle.
>
> Peace,
>
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message ----
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> Sent: Friday, August 4, 2006 8:46:27 PM
> Subject: [sfraves] Six Arrested, Jail Solidarity, 30,000 Dollar Bail for
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>
>
> Six Arrested, Jail Solidarity, 30,000 Dollar Bail for Dance Party
>
>
> At least 6 arrested at a zombie themed dance party at nicollet light rail
> station sat. Bail set at 30,000.00 each. charged with simulation of
> weapons of mass destruction for dancing to homemade radios.
>
> http://twincities.indymedia.org/newswire/display/28018/index.php
>
>
> MySpace:  http://www.myspace.com/DJApollo
>
> Tribenet:   <http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k>
> http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k
>
> House Music 101:  http://livingart.com/raving/articles/housemusic101.htm
>
> "Americans like to talk about (or be told about) Democracy but, when put
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Subject: RE: [sfraves] Single Cell Orchestra headlining Comedy Show tonight and more...

TONIGHT!!!

Big tings gwan w/ the OW folks...launching Oaklyn Records, re-releasing 
Azeem's "Craft Classic" cd (party rockin' illness!), one of the sickest 
electro producers doing STAND UP COMEDY (what? yes!) and FREE fucking BBQ.

Stop being city snobs and meet me over in Oakland tonight y'all ;)

Marco
510.684.3999 for the 411 (if u can't read)






>From: Other World <otherworld_sfr@yahoo.com>
>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: [sfraves] Single Cell Orchestra headlining Comedy Show tonight and 
>more...
>Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 11:33:00 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Oaklyn Records and OtherWorld
>Saturday August 5th, 2006
>9:00pm-3:00am
>
>Oaklyn Records Launch Party & Record Release
>
>lights by:  Radiant Atmospheres and Coil
>sound by:   Gateway Systems
>
>voicemail:  510-287-5917
>             510-466-5880
>
>check out the websites for updated info:
>http://www.otherworld.ws
>http://www.oaklynrecords.com
>
>$5 at the door
>located @ Club Oasis
>135 12th Street  Downtown Oakland
>---------------------------------------------
>
>the night kicks off at 9:00pm with a very special
>2hr Comedy Showcase hosted and headlined by:
>
>Miguel Fierro (aka Single Cell Orchestra)
>
>and featuring:
>
>Jasper Redd
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>
>Louis Katz
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>
>Will Franken
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
>Justin Scales
>
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>
>and more...
>
>*also from 9:00-11:00 we’ll be cooking up tons of
>FREE BBQ for everybody out back.  (vegi & meat)
>-------------------------------------------------
>
>Then stick around for a night of the best live Hip
>Hop, Trip Hop, & Electro with music performances by:
>
>Azeem  *live hip hop
>(OM Records / Oaklyn Records / Bomb Hip Hop /
>WideHive)
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>
>DJ Zeph
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>Primitive)
>http://profile.myspace.com/djzeph
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>
>DJ Quest
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>http://www.bombhiphop.com/newbomb/bombpages/quest.html
>
>Marc Stretch
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>http://www.lookrecords.com/marchstretch.html
>http://www.myspace.com/marcstretch
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>CatFive  *live
>(katfive.com)
>http://www.katfive.com/
>
>Joe Rice
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>
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>http://bradelectro.com/
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>Naked Slice
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>http://www.myspace.com/nakedslice
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>Marin
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Free parties return to UK




Police are attempting to stop upcoming 'raves'

Police have reported that free "rave" parties in are on the rise again in the UK.

Officers have explained that they have policed several events in recent weeks and are now attempting to find out the details of one massive, illegal party in particular, which is due to take place in the coming weeks.

Intelligence specialists are monitoring websites and party phonelines attempting to pick up word of further free parties and festivals.

An event, featuring the likes of The <http://www.nme.com/artists/klaxons>Klaxons, in a disused office block in London on July 21 was broken up after just one hour 

Meanwhile Devon And Cornwall police are concerned that ravers will attempt a party in the West Country following a recent event in Newquay that saw partygoers used a car rally as cover for a rave.

Meanwhile, officers in Davidstow near Camelford, watched as 5,000 people hold a party on a disused airfield, while Thames Valley police are using ASBO legislation to crack down on raves, The Guardian reports.

The Conservative government passed The Criminal Justice and Public Act Order in 1994 attempting to thwart the spread of dance culture parties. It gave police the power to tackle "A gathering on land in the open air...at which amplified music is played during the night."

However with the current rise of the new rave scene, it's believed fans are now also resurrecting free party culture. 

http://www.nme.com/news/klaxons/23701




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House Music 101:  http://livingart.com/raving/articles/housemusic101.htm

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  Bail for Dance Party


Ya I was sorta wondering the samething.

As for the WMD's....  why do I suspect a bunch of prop 55gal drums of the 
Military gas/zombie containers form Return of the Living Dead?  It's what' 
I'd have...

Zombies are the NEW Vampire btw.



At 12:13 PM 8/5/2006, you wrote:

>Where's the link to a _real_ news story on the topic?   Not to be all
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>known to stretch the truth from time to time...


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Claiming Santa Rosa over here

- Nic

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*** TRANCEPORTAL PRESENTS - A DAYTIME TRANCE MUSIC GATHERING ***

The Tranceportal.org Crew and special guest DJs invite you to come to  
a free
outdoor event in Golden Gate Park, San Francisco. We'll be playing  
hours of
high-energy electronic music on Sunday August 13th, 2006 starting at  
noon
until 6pm.

This event is fully permitted and in a beautiful outdoor location  
centrally
located in the city of San Francisco.  You may forward this on to other
lists that might enjoy it.


*** DONATIONS ***

This is a free party, but we will be taking donations in support of our
friend Josh Wolf. Josh is now being held in a federal prison in order to
coerce him to testify and turn over his unpublished video to a  
federal grand
jury.

This event is not a protest or a demonstation, but we will be giving  
100% of
all donations to help Josh Wolf cover his $15,000 in legal expenses.

More information on his situation is at:
http://freejosh.pbwiki.com
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/08/01/MNGVQK97AK4.DTL


*** DETAILS ***

Date: Sunday August 13th, 2006
Time: Noon until 6:00pm
Location: Elk Glen Meadow - Golden Gate Park, San Francisco CA


*** WHAT TO BRING ***

There's plenty of shade and sun in the Elk Glen Meadow. You might  
want to
bring some chairs or a blanket to spread out on the grass. There will  
be a
couple of grills available on site that a few of us are bringing,  
feel free
to use them. Alcohol is allowed at Elk Glen Meadow. Please help us  
keep the
space clean and use the provided trash cans.


*** RESTROOMS ***

We will have a single portable toilet on site. Please use it instead  
of the
bushes. The next closest toilets are a 15 minute walk to the Polo  
Fields.


*** LINEUP ***

Noon - 1:00pm Jason Lee [Stargaze]
1:00pm - 2:00pm Ray C [Butterzone / Tranceportal] 2:00pm - 3:00pm Rahul
[Turiyasounds / Outpost23] 3:00pm - 4:00pm gEoff ;) [Stargaze] 4:00pm -
6:00pm Addison/Colin/Paul [Tranceportal / Stargaze]


*** DIRECTIONS ***

- Google directions and get to Lincoln Way at 25th Ave. in Golden  
Gate Park
- San Francisco
- Go north on 25th Ave.
- Left at the T intersectoin onto Martin Luther King Jr. Drive
- Elk Glen Meadow is on your right hand side after a couple hundred feet
- Park anywhere on Martin Luther King Jr. Drive

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find in their lives and words a jot of support for a political and  
economic regime that encourages the acquisition of wealth far beyond  
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Hey everybody I'm chris and im new to this list so hey.

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ok, here is the deal...

i've been hearing about private girl girl parties and i want to attend .and no not the butchee parties...anywho.. i know some of you dj's have played atleast one of them, if so...dammit pass the info down...hehehe

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http://www.startribune.com/462/story/572409.html

'Zombie dancers' spend their weekend in lockup
Minneapolis police arrested the group on suspicion of having =20
"simulated weapons of mass destruction," but no charges filed.
Chao Xiong, Star Tribune
Last update: July 25, 2006 =96 1:39 AM

Group members assess damage

DAVID JOLES, STAR TRIBUNE

In the middle of downtown Minneapolis Saturday night, police found =20
seven people clustered on a street corner, some pale-faced and =20
covered in fake blood and wearing tattered clothes. A few carried =20
backpacks with protruding wires.
It was, participants said later, a "zombie dance party," in which a =20
group of young friends dress in sometimes outlandish attire and =20
congregate in public places to dance to music from portable stereos =20
carried on their backs.
But when the dancers wouldn't tell police concerned about the =20
mysterious wires, give their names or provide identification, they =20
ended up arrested, held in jail until Monday afternoon on suspicion =20
of having "simulated weapons of mass destruction."
None have been charged.
Police say the group was uncooperative and intimidated passersby with =20=

their "ghoulish" makeup at a time when officers were on high alert in =20=

reaction to a bulletin about men in other states who wear clown =20
makeup while attacking and robbing people, said Inspector Janee Harteau.
"Given the circumstance of them being uncooperative ... why would you =20=

have those [bags] if not to intimidate people?" Harteau said. "It's =20
not a case of [police] overreacting."
Kate Kibby, who was one of those arrested, had a different opinion. =20
She said the group met at the Nicollet Mall light-rail station for a =20
"zombie dance party," which generally occur in public spaces. =20
Sometimes, she said, strangers join in. The parties have occurred =20
without arrest at the Mall of America and on light-rail trains, she =20
said.
The group -- six adults and a juvenile -- had just finished watching =20
a drum line near 6th Street and Hennepin Avenue when two officers =20
approached, asked for identification and refused to say why they were =20=

being questioned, Kibby said. "We should have had an explanation as =20
to why [they wanted our identification] and they weren't giving it to =20=

us," she said.
Christian Utne, one of the event organizers, said that happened about =20=

45 minutes after two different officers approached them on Nicollet =20
Mall and asked them to turn down the volume of their music. Those =20
officers then left the group alone, he said.
"It was absolutely ridiculous," said Utne. "Outrageous."
Kibby, Utne and police agree that group members initially did not =20
reveal their identities. But Kibby said the group -- not knowing what =20=

would happen -- did cooperate and follow the two officers to the =20
First Precinct.
The two original officers didn't appear to think the backpacks were =20
bombs, said Kibby, who said she had a messenger bag. They weren't =20
searched until after they arrived at the First Precinct, where she =20
said several officers appeared to be making fun of them, she said.
Police spokesman Lt. Greg Reinhardt said reports show that there were =20=

"four items that were used to simulate an explosive device."
Members of the group could still face lesser charges, such as =20
disorderly conduct, police said. Kibby said group members are =20
considering legal action.
"It was clear to us that they were trying to get a rise out of us," =20
she said.

Chao Xiong =95 612-673-4391



On Aug 5, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Jonathan Ben Ari wrote:

> Where's the link to a _real_ news story on the topic?   Not to be all
> "Republican saboteur" on y'all or anything, but, umm, Indymedia has =20=

> been
> known to stretch the truth from time to time...
>
> On 8/5/06, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> "simulation of a weapon of mass destruction"?  WTF?  Thye're =20
>> claiming tha
>> tby dressing up as zombies they were simulating a WMD attack?
>>
>> And what's up with "zombie" parties?  These seem like a bad idea =20
>> to me
>> after Seattle.
>>
>> Peace,
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Apollo <apollo@speakeasy.org>
>> To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org
>> Sent: Friday, August 4, 2006 8:46:27 PM
>> Subject: [sfraves] Six Arrested, Jail Solidarity, 30,000 Dollar =20
>> Bail for
>> Dance  Party
>>
>>
>>
>> Six Arrested, Jail Solidarity, 30,000 Dollar Bail for Dance Party
>>
>>
>> At least 6 arrested at a zombie themed dance party at nicollet =20
>> light rail
>> station sat. Bail set at 30,000.00 each. charged with simulation of
>> weapons of mass destruction for dancing to homemade radios.
>>
>> http://twincities.indymedia.org/newswire/display/28018/index.php
>>
>>
>> MySpace:  http://www.myspace.com/DJApollo
>>
>> Tribenet:   <http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k>
>> http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k
>>
>> House Music 101:  http://livingart.com/raving/articles/=20
>> housemusic101.htm
>>
>> "Americans like to talk about (or be told about) Democracy but, =20
>> when put
>> to the test, usually find it to be an 'inconvenience.' We have =20
>> opted instead
>> for an authoritarian system disguised as a Democracy. We pay =20
>> through the
>> nose for an enormous joke-of-a-government, let it push us around, =20
>> and then
>> wonder how all those assholes got in there." - Frank Zappa
>>
>> "Music is prophecy, its style and economic organization are ahead =20
>> of the
>> rest of society. It makes audible the new world that will =20
>> gradually become
>> visible."
>> -Jacques Attali in his seminal text "Noise"
>>
>>
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Ahhh you're talking about the Tunamelt parties- Let me make some  
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On Aug 6, 2006, at 11:52 PM, adriana wrote:

> ok, here is the deal...
>
> i've been hearing about private girl girl parties and i want to  
> attend .and no not the butchee parties...anywho.. i know some of  
> you dj's have played atleast one of them, if so...dammit pass the  
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>
> xoxo
> adriana
>
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Santa Rosa, for the moment.

I might actually be in San Mateo in a few days. If I don't move though, I
would like to start something up here....

On 8/6/06, Nic Werner <nicwerner@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Claiming Santa Rosa over here
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San Rafael over hurr.



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Why the hell would cops waste their time on something like this while they
should be out finding real criminals. Try skateboarding, you'll quickly fin=
d
out how stupid cops are.

On 8/7/06, Deepfog <sfgroove@deepfog.com> wrote:
>
> http://www.startribune.com/462/story/572409.html
>
> 'Zombie dancers' spend their weekend in lockup
> Minneapolis police arrested the group on suspicion of having
> "simulated weapons of mass destruction," but no charges filed.
> Chao Xiong, Star Tribune
> Last update: July 25, 2006 =96 1:39 AM
>
> Group members assess damage
>
> DAVID JOLES, STAR TRIBUNE
>
> In the middle of downtown Minneapolis Saturday night, police found
> seven people clustered on a street corner, some pale-faced and
> covered in fake blood and wearing tattered clothes. A few carried
> backpacks with protruding wires.
> It was, participants said later, a "zombie dance party," in which a
> group of young friends dress in sometimes outlandish attire and
> congregate in public places to dance to music from portable stereos
> carried on their backs.
> But when the dancers wouldn't tell police concerned about the
> mysterious wires, give their names or provide identification, they
> ended up arrested, held in jail until Monday afternoon on suspicion
> of having "simulated weapons of mass destruction."
> None have been charged.
> Police say the group was uncooperative and intimidated passersby with
> their "ghoulish" makeup at a time when officers were on high alert in
> reaction to a bulletin about men in other states who wear clown
> makeup while attacking and robbing people, said Inspector Janee Harteau.
> "Given the circumstance of them being uncooperative ... why would you
> have those [bags] if not to intimidate people?" Harteau said. "It's
> not a case of [police] overreacting."
> Kate Kibby, who was one of those arrested, had a different opinion.
> She said the group met at the Nicollet Mall light-rail station for a
> "zombie dance party," which generally occur in public spaces.
> Sometimes, she said, strangers join in. The parties have occurred
> without arrest at the Mall of America and on light-rail trains, she
> said.
> The group -- six adults and a juvenile -- had just finished watching
> a drum line near 6th Street and Hennepin Avenue when two officers
> approached, asked for identification and refused to say why they were
> being questioned, Kibby said. "We should have had an explanation as
> to why [they wanted our identification] and they weren't giving it to
> us," she said.
> Christian Utne, one of the event organizers, said that happened about
> 45 minutes after two different officers approached them on Nicollet
> Mall and asked them to turn down the volume of their music. Those
> officers then left the group alone, he said.
> "It was absolutely ridiculous," said Utne. "Outrageous."
> Kibby, Utne and police agree that group members initially did not
> reveal their identities. But Kibby said the group -- not knowing what
> would happen -- did cooperate and follow the two officers to the
> First Precinct.
> The two original officers didn't appear to think the backpacks were
> bombs, said Kibby, who said she had a messenger bag. They weren't
> searched until after they arrived at the First Precinct, where she
> said several officers appeared to be making fun of them, she said.
> Police spokesman Lt. Greg Reinhardt said reports show that there were
> "four items that were used to simulate an explosive device."
> Members of the group could still face lesser charges, such as
> disorderly conduct, police said. Kibby said group members are
> considering legal action.
> "It was clear to us that they were trying to get a rise out of us,"
> she said.
>
> Chao Xiong =95 612-673-4391
>
>
>
> On Aug 5, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Jonathan Ben Ari wrote:
>
> > Where's the link to a _real_ news story on the topic?   Not to be all
> > "Republican saboteur" on y'all or anything, but, umm, Indymedia has
> > been
> > known to stretch the truth from time to time...
> >
> > On 8/5/06, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> "simulation of a weapon of mass destruction"?  WTF?  Thye're
> >> claiming tha
> >> tby dressing up as zombies they were simulating a WMD attack?
> >>
> >> And what's up with "zombie" parties?  These seem like a bad idea
> >> to me
> >> after Seattle.
> >>
> >> Peace,
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: Apollo <apollo@speakeasy.org>
> >> To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org
> >> Sent: Friday, August 4, 2006 8:46:27 PM
> >> Subject: [sfraves] Six Arrested, Jail Solidarity, 30,000 Dollar
> >> Bail for
> >> Dance  Party
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Six Arrested, Jail Solidarity, 30,000 Dollar Bail for Dance Party
> >>
> >>
> >> At least 6 arrested at a zombie themed dance party at nicollet
> >> light rail
> >> station sat. Bail set at 30,000.00 each. charged with simulation of
> >> weapons of mass destruction for dancing to homemade radios.
> >>
> >> http://twincities.indymedia.org/newswire/display/28018/index.php
> >>
> >>
> >> MySpace:  http://www.myspace.com/DJApollo
> >>
> >> Tribenet:   <http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k>
> >> http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k
> >>
> >> House Music 101:  http://livingart.com/raving/articles/
> >> housemusic101.htm
> >>
> >> "Americans like to talk about (or be told about) Democracy but,
> >> when put
> >> to the test, usually find it to be an 'inconvenience.' We have
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> >> and then
> >> wonder how all those assholes got in there." - Frank Zappa
> >>
> >> "Music is prophecy, its style and economic organization are ahead
> >> of the
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LOL

Sorry.  Grew up up there.  Don't get your hopes up.

Santa Rosa and most of SoCo considers the RAVE Act to be one of the books 
of the New Testament.  I rememeber in the arly 90s there were a few Raves 
out in the river area and the spin the media they put on them made'em sound 
like they were worse than some satanic cult gathering to slaughter 
animimals.  Like doing a little N2O was far worse than shooting Heroin in a 
dirty alley somewhere.

I was throwing some stuff in '99 up there in some unincorporated area.  We 
hbarred some undesireables from coming in so they calle dthe cops and told 
them that there were naked peopel running around.  We had the entire 
Sheriff dept show up that night, 25 cars plus 3 K-9 units.  This wasn't 
even a "Rave" just a party with about 200 ppl (ya ok, loud music, full open 
bar, and lot of wacky fetish people in PVC and Latex getting freaky in all 
areas of the house.  I think it might have been Liquid Latex 
night...   memory is cloudy).


At 09:55 AM 8/7/2006, you wrote:
>Santa Rosa, for the moment.
>
>I might actually be in San Mateo in a few days. If I don't move though, I
>would like to start something up here....


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You dont need to be a skateboarder to notice that. But you can't say that
about all of them. Some of them actually ARE out to help the community...
just way to few it seems.

On 8/7/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Why the hell would cops waste their time on something like this while the=
y
> should be out finding real criminals. Try skateboarding, you'll quickly
> find
> out how stupid cops are.
>
> On 8/7/06, Deepfog <sfgroove@deepfog.com> wrote:
> >
> > http://www.startribune.com/462/story/572409.html
> >
> > 'Zombie dancers' spend their weekend in lockup
> > Minneapolis police arrested the group on suspicion of having
> > "simulated weapons of mass destruction," but no charges filed.
> > Chao Xiong, Star Tribune
> > Last update: July 25, 2006 =96 1:39 AM
> >
> > Group members assess damage
> >
> > DAVID JOLES, STAR TRIBUNE
> >
> > In the middle of downtown Minneapolis Saturday night, police found
> > seven people clustered on a street corner, some pale-faced and
> > covered in fake blood and wearing tattered clothes. A few carried
> > backpacks with protruding wires.
> > It was, participants said later, a "zombie dance party," in which a
> > group of young friends dress in sometimes outlandish attire and
> > congregate in public places to dance to music from portable stereos
> > carried on their backs.
> > But when the dancers wouldn't tell police concerned about the
> > mysterious wires, give their names or provide identification, they
> > ended up arrested, held in jail until Monday afternoon on suspicion
> > of having "simulated weapons of mass destruction."
> > None have been charged.
> > Police say the group was uncooperative and intimidated passersby with
> > their "ghoulish" makeup at a time when officers were on high alert in
> > reaction to a bulletin about men in other states who wear clown
> > makeup while attacking and robbing people, said Inspector Janee Harteau=
.
> > "Given the circumstance of them being uncooperative ... why would you
> > have those [bags] if not to intimidate people?" Harteau said. "It's
> > not a case of [police] overreacting."
> > Kate Kibby, who was one of those arrested, had a different opinion.
> > She said the group met at the Nicollet Mall light-rail station for a
> > "zombie dance party," which generally occur in public spaces.
> > Sometimes, she said, strangers join in. The parties have occurred
> > without arrest at the Mall of America and on light-rail trains, she
> > said.
> > The group -- six adults and a juvenile -- had just finished watching
> > a drum line near 6th Street and Hennepin Avenue when two officers
> > approached, asked for identification and refused to say why they were
> > being questioned, Kibby said. "We should have had an explanation as
> > to why [they wanted our identification] and they weren't giving it to
> > us," she said.
> > Christian Utne, one of the event organizers, said that happened about
> > 45 minutes after two different officers approached them on Nicollet
> > Mall and asked them to turn down the volume of their music. Those
> > officers then left the group alone, he said.
> > "It was absolutely ridiculous," said Utne. "Outrageous."
> > Kibby, Utne and police agree that group members initially did not
> > reveal their identities. But Kibby said the group -- not knowing what
> > would happen -- did cooperate and follow the two officers to the
> > First Precinct.
> > The two original officers didn't appear to think the backpacks were
> > bombs, said Kibby, who said she had a messenger bag. They weren't
> > searched until after they arrived at the First Precinct, where she
> > said several officers appeared to be making fun of them, she said.
> > Police spokesman Lt. Greg Reinhardt said reports show that there were
> > "four items that were used to simulate an explosive device."
> > Members of the group could still face lesser charges, such as
> > disorderly conduct, police said. Kibby said group members are
> > considering legal action.
> > "It was clear to us that they were trying to get a rise out of us,"
> > she said.
> >
> > Chao Xiong =95 612-673-4391
> >
> >
> >
> > On Aug 5, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Jonathan Ben Ari wrote:
> >
> > > Where's the link to a _real_ news story on the topic?   Not to be all
> > > "Republican saboteur" on y'all or anything, but, umm, Indymedia has
> > > been
> > > known to stretch the truth from time to time...
> > >
> > > On 8/5/06, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> "simulation of a weapon of mass destruction"?  WTF?  Thye're
> > >> claiming tha
> > >> tby dressing up as zombies they were simulating a WMD attack?
> > >>
> > >> And what's up with "zombie" parties?  These seem like a bad idea
> > >> to me
> > >> after Seattle.
> > >>
> > >> Peace,
> > >>
> > >> Peter
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message ----
> > >> From: Apollo <apollo@speakeasy.org>
> > >> To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org
> > >> Sent: Friday, August 4, 2006 8:46:27 PM
> > >> Subject: [sfraves] Six Arrested, Jail Solidarity, 30,000 Dollar
> > >> Bail for
> > >> Dance  Party
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Six Arrested, Jail Solidarity, 30,000 Dollar Bail for Dance Party
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> At least 6 arrested at a zombie themed dance party at nicollet
> > >> light rail
> > >> station sat. Bail set at 30,000.00 each. charged with simulation of
> > >> weapons of mass destruction for dancing to homemade radios.
> > >>
> > >> http://twincities.indymedia.org/newswire/display/28018/index.php
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> MySpace:  http://www.myspace.com/DJApollo
> > >>
> > >> Tribenet:   <http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k>
> > >> http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k
> > >>
> > >> House Music 101:  http://livingart.com/raving/articles/
> > >> housemusic101.htm
> > >>
> > >> "Americans like to talk about (or be told about) Democracy but,
> > >> when put
> > >> to the test, usually find it to be an 'inconvenience.' We have
> > >> opted instead
> > >> for an authoritarian system disguised as a Democracy. We pay
> > >> through the
> > >> nose for an enormous joke-of-a-government, let it push us around,
> > >> and then
> > >> wonder how all those assholes got in there." - Frank Zappa
> > >>
> > >> "Music is prophecy, its style and economic organization are ahead
> > >> of the
> > >> rest of society. It makes audible the new world that will
> > >> gradually become
> > >> visible."
> > >> -Jacques Attali in his seminal text "Noise"
> > >>
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Guess you missed the part about it being Minniapolis.  ;)

"Oh ya...  don't cha know.  Ya deez kids they were being all weird ya 
know.  I mean, who would walk around like that at night unless they're 
hopped up on some sorta drugs don't cha know.  Oh ya the E..  or G, H, I, 
J...  ya know dats why I say dat Sesame Street show is so bad don't cha 
know?  Its' teaching deez kids all aboot drugs."


At 11:21 AM 8/7/2006, you wrote:
>Why the hell would cops waste their time on something like this while they
>should be out finding real criminals. Try skateboarding, you'll quickly find
>out how stupid cops are.


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In a message dated 8/7/2006 11:35:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
shatter@sonic.net writes:
dats why I say dat Sesame Street show is so bad don't cha 
know?  Its' teaching deez kids all aboot drugs."
haha yeah ... It's all because of them saying "Today's show is brought to you 
by the letter E"  And let's not forget the letter A, while we're at it.  

Vanna White on Wheel of Fortune was a major dealer. She was giving people 
vowels like A and E whenever Pat Sajak told her too. 

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Well, I'm ready to take off......

Anesthesia Drug Rapidly Lifts Depression, Researchers Say


By Amanda Gardner

HealthDay Reporter 1 hour, 18 minutes ago

MONDAY, Aug. 7 (HealthDay News) -- A single dose of an anesthesia  
drug produced relief from depression in as little as two hours in a  
small group of patients for whom several other treatments had failed,  
U.S. government researchers report.

The researchers said, however, that the drug, ketamine, is unlikely  
to be used in the treatment of depression because of possible side  
effects, including psychosis. But the new finding does signal an  
important direction for future research.

Currently available antidepressants can take weeks to work. "That was  
similar to the sound barrier. We felt we couldn't pass it," said Dr.  
Carlos A. Zarate Jr., lead author of the study and chief of the mood  
disorders research unit at the National Institute of Mental Health.

He added, "Now the sound barrier is broken. That doesn't mean you can  
get on the plane and take off right away, but it means it's possible  
that we can come up with a treatment that works very rapidly. That's  
down the road."

Ketamine is novel not only for the speed of its effect, but also  
because it targets a new system in the brain.
"It's novel because all antidepressants that are currently available  
work on neurotransmitters that are monoamines like dopamine and  
serotonin. That's the focus of the current antidepressant  
armamentarium," explained Dr. Richard A. Friedman, director of the  
psychopharmacology clinic at Cornell University's Medical Center in  
New York City. "Ketamine involves a particular system of the brain  
called glutamate. It's the main excitory neurotransmitter in the  
brain," he said.

Depression is a chronic, disabling condition affecting almost 15  
million Americans -- almost 7 percent of the adult U.S. population --  
in any given year. Some 4 percent of people with depression will end  
their own lives, resulting in 30,000 suicides each year.

Unfortunately, about half of people with depression don't receive  
treatment and, of those who do get treatment, only about 40 percent  
get the best, "evidence-based" treatment. Some people still don't get  
better even with this type of treatment, however.
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dose of ketamine or a placebo. Participants had tried an average of  
six antidepressant medications without success in the past.
Depression improved within one day in 71 percent of participants who  
received ketamine; 29 percent of those became nearly symptom-free  
within one day. Thirty-five percent of those receiving ketamine still  
showed benefits after several weeks. Those in the placebo group  
showed no improvement.

One week later, participants were given the opposite treatment,  
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"People had tried six to seven antidepressants on average and had  
been ill for 30 years. The current episode was three years in  
duration," Zarate said. "All people who went through this reported a  
tremendous relief of suffering."

Short-term side effects, including perception disturbances, went away  
usually before the antidepressant effect kicked in. Participants were  
given a relatively low dose, so they did not experience the more  
severe side effects.

Ketamine works by blocking the N-methyl-D-aspartic acid (NMDA)  
receptor, which receives signals for glutamate. Using ketamine to  
block glutamate's action on the NMDA receptor also seemed to have a  
secondary effect on another brain receptor, the AMPA receptor.

Zarate and his team are now looking at several ways to use this  
information for depressed patients. "We're looking to see if we can  
refine ketamine for clinical use by taking care of side effects," he  
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Six Arrested, and a bit of a rant....

Just an FYI to all...

THIS IS THE PATRIOT ACT IN MOTION. WMD, is only used
in arrests where the PATRIOT ACT is being enforced.

AND... Most importantly, if someones make-up
intimidates a passerby, when will they arrest Black
men who scare bigotted white women? Or Indians who
people fear are terrorists.... BECAUSE THEIR
APPEARANCE TERRORIZED THEM.??????

This country is insane.... we have no freedoms.... if
your underground doesn't get busted this weekend, its
not cuz they dont know, its just that they were too
busy fucking up some other innocent persons evening.

Don't by naive about these laws. If they arrest you
under the patriot act, say you terrorized someone,
find a 7th degree of seperation on your phone bill to
a REAL terrorist, you'll be locked up, not afforded
YOUR PAPER given rights as an American, and left to
rot without representation, and they won't even have
to let anyone know where they are incarcerating you.

Yeah team.

E

PS... George bush will not stand to murder 100 cell
organisms, but loves killing adults. If a cock roach
ate a bundle of stem cells and he stepped on it, could
he be tried for murder? Maybe we can get the Berkeley
Micro Robot team working on that....

> >
> > Why the hell would cops waste their time on
> something like this while they
> > should be out finding real criminals. Try
> skateboarding, you'll quickly
> > find
> > out how stupid cops are.
> >
> > On 8/7/06, Deepfog <sfgroove@deepfog.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.startribune.com/462/story/572409.html
> > >
> > > 'Zombie dancers' spend their weekend in lockup
> > > Minneapolis police arrested the group on
> suspicion of having
> > > "simulated weapons of mass destruction," but no
> charges filed.
> > > Chao Xiong, Star Tribune
> > > Last update: July 25, 2006 – 1:39 AM
> > >
> > > Group members assess damage
> > >
> > > DAVID JOLES, STAR TRIBUNE
> > >
> > > In the middle of downtown Minneapolis Saturday
> night, police found
> > > seven people clustered on a street corner, some
> pale-faced and
> > > covered in fake blood and wearing tattered
> clothes. A few carried
> > > backpacks with protruding wires.
> > > It was, participants said later, a "zombie dance
> party," in which a
> > > group of young friends dress in sometimes
> outlandish attire and
> > > congregate in public places to dance to music
> from portable stereos
> > > carried on their backs.
> > > But when the dancers wouldn't tell police
> concerned about the
> > > mysterious wires, give their names or provide
> identification, they
> > > ended up arrested, held in jail until Monday
> afternoon on suspicion
> > > of having "simulated weapons of mass
> destruction."
> > > None have been charged.
> > > Police say the group was uncooperative and
> intimidated passersby with
> > > their "ghoulish" makeup at a time when officers
> were on high alert in
> > > reaction to a bulletin about men in other states
> who wear clown
> > > makeup while attacking and robbing people, said
> Inspector Janee Harteau.
> > > "Given the circumstance of them being
> uncooperative ... why would you
> > > have those [bags] if not to intimidate people?"
> Harteau said. "It's
> > > not a case of [police] overreacting."
> > > Kate Kibby, who was one of those arrested, had a
> different opinion.
> > > She said the group met at the Nicollet Mall
> light-rail station for a
> > > "zombie dance party," which generally occur in
> public spaces.
> > > Sometimes, she said, strangers join in. The
> parties have occurred
> > > without arrest at the Mall of America and on
> light-rail trains, she
> > > said.
> > > The group -- six adults and a juvenile -- had
> just finished watching
> > > a drum line near 6th Street and Hennepin Avenue
> when two officers
> > > approached, asked for identification and refused
> to say why they were
> > > being questioned, Kibby said. "We should have
> had an explanation as
> > > to why [they wanted our identification] and they
> weren't giving it to
> > > us," she said.
> > > Christian Utne, one of the event organizers,
> said that happened about
> > > 45 minutes after two different officers
> approached them on Nicollet
> > > Mall and asked them to turn down the volume of
> their music. Those
> > > officers then left the group alone, he said.
> > > "It was absolutely ridiculous," said Utne.
> "Outrageous."
> > > Kibby, Utne and police agree that group members
> initially did not
> > > reveal their identities. But Kibby said the
> group -- not knowing what
> > > would happen -- did cooperate and follow the two
> officers to the
> > > First Precinct.
> > > The two original officers didn't appear to think
> the backpacks were
> > > bombs, said Kibby, who said she had a messenger
> bag. They weren't
> > > searched until after they arrived at the First
> Precinct, where she
> > > said several officers appeared to be making fun
> of them, she said.
> > > Police spokesman Lt. Greg Reinhardt said reports
> show that there were
> > > "four items that were used to simulate an
> explosive device."
> > > Members of the group could still face lesser
> charges, such as
> > > disorderly conduct, police said. Kibby said
> group members are
> > > considering legal action.
> > > "It was clear to us that they were trying to get
> a rise out of us,"
> > > she said.
> > >
> > > Chao Xiong • 612-673-4391
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Aug 5, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Jonathan Ben Ari
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Where's the link to a _real_ news story on the
> topic?   Not to be all
> > > > "Republican saboteur" on y'all or anything,
> but, umm, Indymedia has
> > > > been
> > > > known to stretch the truth from time to
> time...
> > > >
> > > > On 8/5/06, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> "simulation of a weapon of mass destruction"?
>  WTF?  Thye're
> > > >> claiming tha
> > > >> tby dressing up as zombies they were
> simulating a WMD attack?
> > > >>
> > > >> And what's up with "zombie" parties?  These
> seem like a bad idea
> > > >> to me
> > > >> after Seattle.
> > > >>
> > > >> Peace,
> > > >>
> > > >> Peter
> > > >>
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> > > >> Subject: [sfraves] Six Arrested, Jail
> Solidarity, 30,000 Dollar
> > > >> Bail for
> > > >> Dance  Party
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Six Arrested, Jail Solidarity, 30,000 Dollar
> Bail for Dance Party
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> At least 6 arrested at a zombie themed dance
> party at nicollet
> > > >> light rail
> > > >> station sat. Bail set at 30,000.00 each.
> charged with simulation of
> > > >> weapons of mass destruction for dancing to
> homemade radios.
> > > >>
> > > >>
>
http://twincities.indymedia.org/newswire/display/28018/index.php
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> MySpace:  http://www.myspace.com/DJApollo
> > > >>
> > > >> Tribenet:  
> <http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k>
> > > >> http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k
> > > >>
> > > >> House Music 101: 
> http://livingart.com/raving/articles/
> > > >> housemusic101.htm
> > > >>
> > > >> "Americans like to talk about (or be told
> about) Democracy but,
> > > >> when put
> > > >> to the test, usually find it to be an
> 'inconvenience.' We have
> > > >> opted instead
> > > >> for an authoritarian system disguised as a
> Democracy. We pay
> > > >> through the
> > > >> nose for an enormous joke-of-a-government,
> let it push us around,
> > > >> and then
> > > >> wonder how all those assholes got in there."
> - Frank Zappa
> > > >>
> > > >> "Music is prophecy, its style and economic
> organization are ahead
> > > >> of the
> > > >> rest of society. It makes audible the new
> world that will
> > > >> gradually become
> > > >> visible."
> > > >> -Jacques Attali in his seminal text "Noise"
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
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Subject: [sfraves] ASPIRE 8 YR

No its not Jeremys ASPIRE but it is a great party none the less......

Invisible Hero Industries presents.....
                           A S P I R E
                             8yr Clelebration
                       Saturday August 19th

Bringing together art music dance and positivity....for a magical
night of laughter and smiles!


Sound Selectors on the main floor
 Nikola Batalya-Blue Collar Entertainment/Tweekin
 Ben Davis-Tweekin Records
   Dj Centipede-CB records
      Raw Deluxe-Live hiphop/funk Phenomenom
          Phleck&Gordo- Live scratch performace
 Upstairs in the loft
     Seth-U.S.S.
     Neptune-Beat Church
      Olliver Vaugn-Progress SF
        Jason White-D.I.P.S./BPM records

 Solid Goldiggers Burlesque troop performances throughout the night
 Deconstruction art exhibit with art of MOTTS- www.opacity.us
 Lights and Lasers by Tribal Existance Lighting...
Featuring two floors of the best in SF music and performance art....
 Full bar,Virgin UG location in SF and a 25th birthday celebration
for Charlie. Bring your dancing shoes and smiles for an event like no
other!

INFO (day of the event) 415-573-7176
10pm-?
$10 suggested donation

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Ketamine rapidly lifts depression

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Another study that just confirms what everyone already knows. Just like DXM,
Dissaociatives are known to be great anti-depresents.

Funny that this e-mail arrives today. I just quit cold turkey 40mg prozac
last week (because I ran out). Today I tried to get a refill, but decided
not to get it because I found out it costs $700 if you don't have insurance
and, well, I don't have insurance anymore.

8-o




On 8/7/06, Apollo <apollo@speakeasy.org> wrote:
>
> Well, I'm ready to take off......
>
> Anesthesia Drug Rapidly Lifts Depression, Researchers Say
>
>
> By Amanda Gardner
>
> HealthDay Reporter 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
>
> MONDAY, Aug. 7 (HealthDay News) -- A single dose of an anesthesia
> drug produced relief from depression in as little as two hours in a
> small group of patients for whom several other treatments had failed,
> U.S. government researchers report.
>
> The researchers said, however, that the drug, ketamine, is unlikely
> to be used in the treatment of depression because of possible side
> effects, including psychosis. But the new finding does signal an
> important direction for future research.
>
> Currently available antidepressants can take weeks to work. "That was
> similar to the sound barrier. We felt we couldn't pass it," said Dr.
> Carlos A. Zarate Jr., lead author of the study and chief of the mood
> disorders research unit at the National Institute of Mental Health.
>
> He added, "Now the sound barrier is broken. That doesn't mean you can
> get on the plane and take off right away, but it means it's possible
> that we can come up with a treatment that works very rapidly. That's
> down the road."
>
> Ketamine is novel not only for the speed of its effect, but also
> because it targets a new system in the brain.
> "It's novel because all antidepressants that are currently available
> work on neurotransmitters that are monoamines like dopamine and
> serotonin. That's the focus of the current antidepressant
> armamentarium," explained Dr. Richard A. Friedman, director of the
> psychopharmacology clinic at Cornell University's Medical Center in
> New York City. "Ketamine involves a particular system of the brain
> called glutamate. It's the main excitory neurotransmitter in the
> brain," he said.
>
> Depression is a chronic, disabling condition affecting almost 15
> million Americans -- almost 7 percent of the adult U.S. population --
> in any given year. Some 4 percent of people with depression will end
> their own lives, resulting in 30,000 suicides each year.
>
> Unfortunately, about half of people with depression don't receive
> treatment and, of those who do get treatment, only about 40 percent
> get the best, "evidence-based" treatment. Some people still don't get
> better even with this type of treatment, however.
> This is one of the first studies in humans to look at the effect of
> ketamine on depression, although previous animal studies had shown
> promising results.
> For the study, which is published in the August issue of the Archives
> of General Psychiatry, 18 treatment-resistant patients with
> depression were randomly assigned to receive either one intravenous
> dose of ketamine or a placebo. Participants had tried an average of
> six antidepressant medications without success in the past.
> Depression improved within one day in 71 percent of participants who
> received ketamine; 29 percent of those became nearly symptom-free
> within one day. Thirty-five percent of those receiving ketamine still
> showed benefits after several weeks. Those in the placebo group
> showed no improvement.
>
> One week later, participants were given the opposite treatment,
> unless they were still showing a benefit from the ketamine.
>
> "People had tried six to seven antidepressants on average and had
> been ill for 30 years. The current episode was three years in
> duration," Zarate said. "All people who went through this reported a
> tremendous relief of suffering."
>
> Short-term side effects, including perception disturbances, went away
> usually before the antidepressant effect kicked in. Participants were
> given a relatively low dose, so they did not experience the more
> severe side effects.
>
> Ketamine works by blocking the N-methyl-D-aspartic acid (NMDA)
> receptor, which receives signals for glutamate. Using ketamine to
> block glutamate's action on the NMDA receptor also seemed to have a
> secondary effect on another brain receptor, the AMPA receptor.
>
> Zarate and his team are now looking at several ways to use this
> information for depressed patients. "We're looking to see if we can
> refine ketamine for clinical use by taking care of side effects," he
> said. "We're also looking at other drugs."
>



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Subject: [sfraves] James Brown @ Fogg Fest on 8/20

http://www.foggfest.com/artists.html



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Does anyone know where i can get some good mp3s?

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I love eMusic.

They have an awesome selection, and they have a promo for 50 free mp3s.



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Subject: Re: [sfraves] An Important Reminder

Mahalo in your face, Dave.


On Aug 5, 2006, at 9:50 AM, SE/30 wrote:

> theories are g r a t e !
>
> -=dave
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Philip.X.Diaz" <st_indigo@earthlink.net>
> To: "SFR mailin' list" <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 8:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] An Important Reminder
>
>
>> ah yes... but mass is a function of energy, remember?
>>
>> E=MC^2
>>
>> pxd
>>
>>
>> On Aug 4, 2006, at 6:20 PM, Ranger - wrote:
>>
>>> Isn't there something about matter that involves mass?  Seems like
>>> slow moving energy wouldn't weigh very much. ;>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> SFR: Ranger
>>> San Francisco
>>> plurranger@hotmail.com
>>> Who knows where the night leads
>>> It's dark and no one can see
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: AndyW <andy@saturn5.com>
>>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>> Subject: [sfraves] An Important Reminder
>>> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:50:50 -0700 (PDT)
>>>
>>>
>>> "All matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. We  
>>> are all
>>> one
>>> consciousness experiencing itself - subjectively. There is no such
>>> thing
>>> as death, Life is only a dream. We are the imaginations of  
>>> ourselves."
>>> - Bill Hicks
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Subject: [sfraves] BSP: Obsoleet Saturday August 12


>  First we Connected the Bay, then took you into the depths of an Egyptian 
>Relic, finishing you off with a climatic Amalgamation. The next step is 
>Obsolescence.  SFR Planners presents: Obsoleet   Saturday, August 12th 2006 
>    2x4s all night:
>
>   Bam vs. Marc(O)
>   [Evil Breaks] [Otherworld,Ill Behavior]
>
>   Drag'nfly vs. Calamity Jane
>   [Love Tribe,Shaolin,djDragnfly.com] [Wom SF,Ambient Mafia]
>
>   AndyW vs. Li
>   [Viberation, Resource Records, Wow] [Viberation]
>
>   FingerMonsters
>   [Origami, Shazbot, Cubik & Andrew Phelan - Monsta Music]
>
>   Yagi vs. Dj Aphelion
>   [OTC, HCFTP] [Clandestine]
>
>   Justin Hale vs. Chris Jackson
>   [Sticky] [Resource Records]
>
>   Superannuated binary walls of visuals by Viberation
>   4 stacks of steam-powered sound reinforcement by SWAT Sound
>   Defunct Decor by the SFR-Planners crew
>
>   Full bar for the 21+
>
>   10pm - 6 am
>   East Bay location
>   $10 tickets @ door
>   All ages.
>   (866) 240-3064
>  http://sfraves.org/obsoleet/

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Subject: [sfraves] BSP: CROOKED @ Nickie's on Haight/Fillmore : WEDNESDAY NIGHT!!!

Yes yes! The time has come to move to a venue a little more our speed: 
Darker, dirtier, grittier, louder, closer into the center of everything. 
Nickie's on Lower Haight is just the spot, and I've been eyeing it up and 
down for a while. So we snatched up Wednesdays really quickly, and we're 
running with it as hard as we can. And we just couldn't resist the name 
"Crooked," knowing the way things usually get at Nickie's.

m.d.K, Erok, Evinrude and I (the newly formed "Renegade Ferrets version 
1.2") will be holding it down, bringing in very special guests from around 
the Bay and beyond every week. We go from 10pm 'til 2am at Nickie's, and, 
unfortunately, we can't keep the free door hook-ups that we used to have at 
@lpha - we've got to charge $3 at the door at Crooked. But come on, $3... 
that's less than the cost of a drink! And well worth it for the lineups we 
plan to put together on a weekly basis.

For our premiere show, this week, August 9th, we're gonna kick it off with a 
lineup that's a bit of a preview of the type of night we want this to be 
every time (with an admitted bit of overkill on the numbers, since this 
one's special) - a few of our favorites all coming together for one wicked 
night of breaks:


8.9.06:
Kapt'n Kirk
Ernie Trevino
Ripple
Satsi
Evinrude

So come out, have a drink with us, say hello, and help us usher in Crooked, 
a brand-new way to do Wednesday nights.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot:

GET BENT!!!

8.16.06 lineup:
Kris Kent
Thomas Kent
Hyjinx
Marc(O)


CROOKED happens every Wednesday @
Nickie's BBQ
460 Haight St. @ Fillmore, SF
10pm-2am, $3, 21+ with ID

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Agreed: emusic is probably the best place to get a wide variety of music,
and it's both drm-less and legal.

On 8/8/06, John Dee <antitux@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I love eMusic.
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I think you guys are missing the analog mp3 boat...


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At 06:18 PM 8/8/2006, Philip Sternberg wrote:
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Subject: [sfraves] Obsoleet ROLL CALL!

Who else is going to this great party? I don't go out to a lot of
parties, but the 2x4 action is going to be amazing, where else do you
get to see these sick DJs throw down against each other?

I'm realy stoked to see an actual SFR party, I know there will be a
lot of old and new heads there, looking forward to catching up with
everyone.

Whose with me?!

- Buzz/Nic






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>Relic, finishing you off with a climatic Amalgamation. The next step is
>Obsolescence.  SFR Planners presents: Obsoleet   Saturday, August 12th 2006
>    2x4s all night:
>
>   Bam vs. Marc(O)
>   [Evil Breaks] [Otherworld,Ill Behavior]
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>   Drag'nfly vs. Calamity Jane
>   [Love Tribe,Shaolin,djDragnfly.com] [Wom SF,Ambient Mafia]
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>   [Viberation, Resource Records, Wow] [Viberation]
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>   FingerMonsters
>   [Origami, Shazbot, Cubik & Andrew Phelan - Monsta Music]
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>   Yagi vs. Dj Aphelion
>   [OTC, HCFTP] [Clandestine]
>
>   Justin Hale vs. Chris Jackson
>   [Sticky] [Resource Records]
>
>   Superannuated binary walls of visuals by Viberation
>   4 stacks of steam-powered sound reinforcement by SWAT Sound
>   Defunct Decor by the SFR-Planners crew
>
>   Full bar for the 21+
>
>   10pm - 6 am
>   East Bay location
>   $10 tickets @ door
>   All ages.
>   (866) 240-3064
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The real SF Raves party is upon us!  The flyer looks really great. The design 
AND who's on it. And we know the visuals will be really nice thanks to Terry. 
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Hello SFR....
hope you guys are doing well....

once again, i find myself looking for another pinche trabajo(job)
due to the fact that i sprained my ankle a couple of weeks ago and my doc put me on disability till end of august, well my employer couldnt wait that long and they didnt hold my position.

anywho..if you guys know anyone who is hiring, pls pass the info down..thanks..

oh and yeah..no more teaching jobs for me, my kids are enuff, kthanks..lol..

much love, 
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I'mma gonna be there!! And wouch!

We're seeing 2001: SPACE ODYESSY at the castro theater this friday, so 
Obsoleet on Saturday is going to be a great topper to the weekend! I 
remember the classic SFR parties, if those are any indication, be 
prepared for quite a treat.

-tim

JonnyR@aol.com wrote:
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> AND who's on it. And we know the visuals will be really nice thanks to Terry. 
>    !!111!!!!!   Obsoleet is GRATE !!1!!!!!!111111!!!!!!!!!
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   didya get my myspace reminder :)
lets do jupiter or blakes sometime this week...


tbSMITH <iamgod@dementim.com> wrote: I'mma gonna be there!! And wouch!

We're seeing 2001: SPACE ODYESSY at the castro theater this friday, so 
Obsoleet on Saturday is going to be a great topper to the weekend! I 
remember the classic SFR parties, if those are any indication, be 
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-tim

JonnyR@aol.com wrote:
> The real SF Raves party is upon us!  The flyer looks really great. The design 
> AND who's on it. And we know the visuals will be really nice thanks to Terry. 
>    !!111!!!!!   Obsoleet is GRATE !!1!!!!!!111111!!!!!!!!!
>
>   


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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Obsoleet ROLL CALL!

I just WISH I would be in town for this one.  Amalgamation was SICK and 
I'm sure Obsoleet will follow in it's footsteps!!  Enjoy everyone!!!

P.S., looking for promoter hookups in the midwest....


On 8 August 2006, Nic Werner wrote:

> Who else is going to this great party? I don't go out to a lot of
> parties, but the 2x4 action is going to be amazing, where else do you
> get to see these sick DJs throw down against each other?
>
> I'm realy stoked to see an actual SFR party, I know there will be a
> lot of old and new heads there, looking forward to catching up with
> everyone.
>
> Whose with me?!
>
> - Buzz/Nic
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>  First we Connected the Bay, then took you into the depths of an Egyptian
>> Relic, finishing you off with a climatic Amalgamation. The next step is
>> Obsolescence.  SFR Planners presents: Obsoleet   Saturday, August 12th 2006
>>    2x4s all night:
>>
>>   Bam vs. Marc(O)
>>   [Evil Breaks] [Otherworld,Ill Behavior]
>>
>>   Drag'nfly vs. Calamity Jane
>>   [Love Tribe,Shaolin,djDragnfly.com] [Wom SF,Ambient Mafia]
>>
>>   AndyW vs. Li
>>   [Viberation, Resource Records, Wow] [Viberation]
>>
>>   FingerMonsters
>>   [Origami, Shazbot, Cubik & Andrew Phelan - Monsta Music]
>>
>>   Yagi vs. Dj Aphelion
>>   [OTC, HCFTP] [Clandestine]
>>
>>   Justin Hale vs. Chris Jackson
>>   [Sticky] [Resource Records]
>>
>>   Superannuated binary walls of visuals by Viberation
>>   4 stacks of steam-powered sound reinforcement by SWAT Sound
>>   Defunct Decor by the SFR-Planners crew
>>
>>   Full bar for the 21+
>>
>>   10pm - 6 am
>>   East Bay location
>>   $10 tickets @ door
>>   All ages.
>>   (866) 240-3064
>>  http://sfraves.org/obsoleet/
>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Obsoleet ROLL CALL!

um, are we supposed to boycott this one too?  ;)
hahahaa
Can't make it :(
will be in santa cruz but I hpe you all have a great time.  Bust out your 
Laminates!!!
wha ha hahaha

Danny P

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>From: "J.C." <dougm@kzsu.stanford.edu>
>To: The Twilight Laser Outpost <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] Obsoleet ROLL CALL!
>Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 22:39:13 -0700 (PDT)
>
>I just WISH I would be in town for this one.  Amalgamation was SICK and I'm 
>sure Obsoleet will follow in it's footsteps!!  Enjoy everyone!!!
>
>P.S., looking for promoter hookups in the midwest....
>
>
>On 8 August 2006, Nic Werner wrote:
>
>>Who else is going to this great party? I don't go out to a lot of
>>parties, but the 2x4 action is going to be amazing, where else do you
>>get to see these sick DJs throw down against each other?
>>
>>I'm realy stoked to see an actual SFR party, I know there will be a
>>lot of old and new heads there, looking forward to catching up with
>>everyone.
>>
>>Whose with me?!
>>
>>- Buzz/Nic
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>  First we Connected the Bay, then took you into the depths of an 
>>>Egyptian
>>>Relic, finishing you off with a climatic Amalgamation. The next step is
>>>Obsolescence.  SFR Planners presents: Obsoleet   Saturday, August 12th 
>>>2006
>>>    2x4s all night:
>>>
>>>   Bam vs. Marc(O)
>>>   [Evil Breaks] [Otherworld,Ill Behavior]
>>>
>>>   Drag'nfly vs. Calamity Jane
>>>   [Love Tribe,Shaolin,djDragnfly.com] [Wom SF,Ambient Mafia]
>>>
>>>   AndyW vs. Li
>>>   [Viberation, Resource Records, Wow] [Viberation]
>>>
>>>   FingerMonsters
>>>   [Origami, Shazbot, Cubik & Andrew Phelan - Monsta Music]
>>>
>>>   Yagi vs. Dj Aphelion
>>>   [OTC, HCFTP] [Clandestine]
>>>
>>>   Justin Hale vs. Chris Jackson
>>>   [Sticky] [Resource Records]
>>>
>>>   Superannuated binary walls of visuals by Viberation
>>>   4 stacks of steam-powered sound reinforcement by SWAT Sound
>>>   Defunct Decor by the SFR-Planners crew
>>>
>>>   Full bar for the 21+
>>>
>>>   10pm - 6 am
>>>   East Bay location
>>>   $10 tickets @ door
>>>   All ages.
>>>   (866) 240-3064
>>>  http://sfraves.org/obsoleet/
>>
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um, are we supposed to boycott this one too?  ;)
hahahaa

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Obsoleet ROLL CALL!

10,000 lumens of visuals firepower locked and loaded.

See ya in 3 days :-)

-terry

On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, JonnyR@aol.com wrote:

> The real SF Raves party is upon us!  The flyer looks really great. The design
> AND who's on it. And we know the visuals will be really nice thanks to Terry.
>   !!111!!!!!   Obsoleet is GRATE !!1!!!!!!111111!!!!!!!!!
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Obsoleet ROLL CALL!

spread the word.

ps.  secret.


On 8/9/06, Terry Estioko <terry@hyperreal.org> wrote:
> 10,000 lumens of visuals firepower locked and loaded.
>
> See ya in 3 days :-)
>
> -terry
>
> On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, JonnyR@aol.com wrote:
>
> > The real SF Raves party is upon us!  The flyer looks really great. The design
> > AND who's on it. And we know the visuals will be really nice thanks to Terry.
> >   !!111!!!!!   Obsoleet is GRATE !!1!!!!!!111111!!!!!!!!!
> >
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Obsoleet ROLL CALL!

bah, wish I could be there.

Take tons of pictures and video.

:)


On 8/9/06, Terry Estioko <terry@hyperreal.org> wrote:
> 10,000 lumens of visuals firepower locked and loaded.
>
> See ya in 3 days :-)
>
> -terry
>
> On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, JonnyR@aol.com wrote:
>
> > The real SF Raves party is upon us!  The flyer looks really great. The design
> > AND who's on it. And we know the visuals will be really nice thanks to Terry.
> >   !!111!!!!!   Obsoleet is GRATE !!1!!!!!!111111!!!!!!!!!
> >
>
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I hope CJ's preparing himself... I'm packing bombs..
WMA type big bass bombs. I finally get the chance
after 13+ years to take you on... in public.. 

prepare yoself Mr. Jax. i'm bringing everything you
taught me and more... hhmmmwwahhahhahahha...

--- Terry Estioko <terry@hyperreal.org> wrote:

> 10,000 lumens of visuals firepower locked and
> loaded.
> 
> See ya in 3 days :-)
> 
> -terry
> 
> On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, JonnyR@aol.com wrote:
> 
> > The real SF Raves party is upon us!  The flyer
> looks really great. The design
> > AND who's on it. And we know the visuals will be
> really nice thanks to Terry.
> >   !!111!!!!!   Obsoleet is GRATE
> !!1!!!!!!111111!!!!!!!!!
> >
> 
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I hear that. I'm in the same boat. Best of luck!  It sucks living in one of
the most expensive places to live in the world.


On 8/8/06, adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hello SFR....
> hope you guys are doing well....
>
> once again, i find myself looking for another pinche trabajo(job)
> due to the fact that i sprained my ankle a couple of weeks ago and my doc
> put me on disability till end of august, well my employer couldnt wait that
> long and they didnt hold my position.
>
> anywho..if you guys know anyone who is hiring, pls pass the info
> down..thanks..
>
> oh and yeah..no more teaching jobs for me, my kids are enuff,
> kthanks..lol..
>
> much love,
> adriana
>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Obsoleet ROLL CALL!

oops.. i think i meant WMD not WMA.. 

in any event, lookout yoda, luke's been training...

--- Justin Hale <djjustinhale@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I hope CJ's preparing himself... I'm packing bombs..
> WMA type big bass bombs. I finally get the chance
> after 13+ years to take you on... in public.. 
> 
> prepare yoself Mr. Jax. i'm bringing everything you
> taught me and more... hhmmmwwahhahhahahha...
> 
> --- Terry Estioko <terry@hyperreal.org> wrote:
> 
> > 10,000 lumens of visuals firepower locked and
> > loaded.
> > 
> > See ya in 3 days :-)
> > 
> > -terry
> > 
> > On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, JonnyR@aol.com wrote:
> > 
> > > The real SF Raves party is upon us!  The flyer
> > looks really great. The design
> > > AND who's on it. And we know the visuals will be
> > really nice thanks to Terry.
> > >   !!111!!!!!   Obsoleet is GRATE
> > !!1!!!!!!111111!!!!!!!!!
> > >
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Obsoleet ROLL CALL!

shouldn't that be "W.A.D."?

WEAPONS OF ASS DESTRUCTION.

-pxd-



On Aug 9, 2006, at 12:50 PM, Justin Hale wrote:

> oops.. i think i meant WMD not WMA..
>
> in any event, lookout yoda, luke's been training...
>
> --- Justin Hale <djjustinhale@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I hope CJ's preparing himself... I'm packing bombs..
>> WMA type big bass bombs. I finally get the chance
>> after 13+ years to take you on... in public..
>>
>> prepare yoself Mr. Jax. i'm bringing everything you
>> taught me and more... hhmmmwwahhahhahahha...
>>
>> --- Terry Estioko <terry@hyperreal.org> wrote:
>>
>>> 10,000 lumens of visuals firepower locked and
>>> loaded.
>>>
>>> See ya in 3 days :-)
>>>
>>> -terry
>>>
>>> On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, JonnyR@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> The real SF Raves party is upon us!  The flyer
>>> looks really great. The design
>>>> AND who's on it. And we know the visuals will be
>>> really nice thanks to Terry.
>>>>   !!111!!!!!   Obsoleet is GRATE
>>> !!1!!!!!!111111!!!!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Obsoleet ROLL CALL!

I'm looking forward to this.

love always

n i c o
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>I hope CJ's preparing himself... I'm packing bombs..
> WMA type big bass bombs. I finally get the chance
> after 13+ years to take you on... in public.. 
> 
> prepare yoself Mr. Jax. i'm bringing everything you
> taught me and more... hhmmmwwahhahhahahha...
> 
> --- Terry Estioko <terry@hyperreal.org> wrote:
> 
>> 10,000 lumens of visuals firepower locked and
>> loaded.
>> 
>> See ya in 3 days :-)
>> 
>> -terry
>> 
>> On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, JonnyR@aol.com wrote:
>> 
>> > The real SF Raves party is upon us!  The flyer
>> looks really great. The design
>> > AND who's on it. And we know the visuals will be
>> really nice thanks to Terry.
>> >   !!111!!!!!   Obsoleet is GRATE
>> !!1!!!!!!111111!!!!!!!!!
>> >
>> 
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HELLO SFR, I MISSED YOU.

                  xxx

LI AND I ARE GOING TO TELEPATHETICALLY FUCK YOUR CAT WITH MUSIC.  YOU KNOW 
US.  REMEMBER THAT PARTY AT THE ARMORY WHERE THAT GUY WAS NAKED IN THE 
MORNING AND EVERYBODY HAD THAT BIG GROUP HUG?  WE DID THAT.  REMEMBER THAT 
GIRL SITTING IN THE SPEAKER WITH THE BOWL OF FRUIT?  WE DID THAT.  YOU 
REMEMBER THE NIGHT WHERE CHRISTOPHER LAWRENCE HAD HIS SET CUT SHORT BY A 
PAIR OF TECHNO FUCKNARDS?  THAT WAS US TOO.  YOU KNOW THAT STUPID SNOOP 
DOGG GIRLS GONE WILD VIDEO?  WE DID THAT TOO, THAT STUPID VIDEO WAS JUST A 
RE-ENACMENT BUT MISSED THE WHOLE VIBE CAUSE IN THE ORIGINAL NO MONEY 
CHANGED HANDS AND THE FEELINGS WERE REAL.  OR HOW ABOUT THE SET AT THE 
HARMONY 5 YEAR THAT GOT BUSTED TO SHIT, YEAH WE WERE THERE TOO.  WE HAVE 
BEEN THE JUSTICE KEEPERS, THE VINYL LIBRARIANS AND WE WERE ALWAYS NICE TO 
YOU.  EVERY GOOD TIME YOU EVER HAD WAS CAUSE OF US, AND DON'T EVEN TALK 
ABOUT YOUR FIRST LAY CAUSE THAT WASN'T US AND IT WASN'T ALL THAT AND YOU'D 
KNOW THIS IF YOU WEREN'T SO DAMN DRUNK ALL THE TIME (ok fine, we're just 
really happy to be playing and hope you enjoy what we're bringing)

                  xxx

IF YOU MISS THIS YOU ARE DUMB!!!!!1!!1!11!11!!!

<3
&eUU

p.s. also of note, I'm dropping B-Boy-Break Bombs at Secret 
Breakasomething or other monday night @ the savoy in lovely Santa Clara I 
thinks.  Bring out your adidas and linoleum.  Or not.  Electroghettobreaks 
with a Polish lean in the women's club BOOOYAKA.

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<BLINK> *fuckyeah oldschool dootdoot!* </BLINK>

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On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Justin Hale wrote:
-&e->oops.. i think i meant WMD not WMA.. 
-&e->
-&e->in any event, lookout yoda, luke's been training...
-&e->
-&e->--- Justin Hale <djjustinhale@yahoo.com> wrote:
-&e->
-&e->> I hope CJ's preparing himself... I'm packing bombs..
-&e->> WMA type big bass bombs. I finally get the chance
-&e->> after 13+ years to take you on... in public.. 
-&e->> 
-&e->> prepare yoself Mr. Jax. i'm bringing everything you
-&e->> taught me and more... hhmmmwwahhahhahahha...
-&e->> 
-&e->> --- Terry Estioko <terry@hyperreal.org> wrote:
-&e->> 
-&e->> > 10,000 lumens of visuals firepower locked and
-&e->> > loaded.
-&e->> > 
-&e->> > See ya in 3 days :-)
-&e->> > 
-&e->> > -terry
-&e->> > 
-&e->> > On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, JonnyR@aol.com wrote:
-&e->> > 
-&e->> > > The real SF Raves party is upon us!  The flyer
-&e->> > looks really great. The design
-&e->> > > AND who's on it. And we know the visuals will be
-&e->> > really nice thanks to Terry.
-&e->> > >   !!111!!!!!   Obsoleet is GRATE
-&e->> > !!1!!!!!!111111!!!!!!!!!
-&e->> > >
-&e->> > 
-&e->> >
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Subject: RE: [sfraves] BSP: CROOKED @ Nickie's on Haight/Fillmore : WEDNESDAY NIGHT!!!

anyone going?
thinking about it....
Dan-0



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>From: "Van Mundegaarde" <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: [sfraves] BSP: CROOKED @ Nickie's on Haight/Fillmore : WEDNESDAY 
>NIGHT!!!
>Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 10:55:34 -0700
>
>Yes yes! The time has come to move to a venue a little more our speed: 
>Darker, dirtier, grittier, louder, closer into the center of everything. 
>Nickie's on Lower Haight is just the spot, and I've been eyeing it up and 
>down for a while. So we snatched up Wednesdays really quickly, and we're 
>running with it as hard as we can. And we just couldn't resist the name 
>"Crooked," knowing the way things usually get at Nickie's.
>
>m.d.K, Erok, Evinrude and I (the newly formed "Renegade Ferrets version 
>1.2") will be holding it down, bringing in very special guests from around 
>the Bay and beyond every week. We go from 10pm 'til 2am at Nickie's, and, 
>unfortunately, we can't keep the free door hook-ups that we used to have at 
>@lpha - we've got to charge $3 at the door at Crooked. But come on, $3... 
>that's less than the cost of a drink! And well worth it for the lineups we 
>plan to put together on a weekly basis.
>
>For our premiere show, this week, August 9th, we're gonna kick it off with 
>a lineup that's a bit of a preview of the type of night we want this to be 
>every time (with an admitted bit of overkill on the numbers, since this 
>one's special) - a few of our favorites all coming together for one wicked 
>night of breaks:
>
>
>8.9.06:
>Kapt'n Kirk
>Ernie Trevino
>Ripple
>Satsi
>Evinrude
>
>So come out, have a drink with us, say hello, and help us usher in Crooked, 
>a brand-new way to do Wednesday nights.
>
>Oh yeah, I almost forgot:
>
>GET BENT!!!
>
>8.16.06 lineup:
>Kris Kent
>Thomas Kent
>Hyjinx
>Marc(O)
>
>
>CROOKED happens every Wednesday @
>Nickie's BBQ
>460 Haight St. @ Fillmore, SF
>10pm-2am, $3, 21+ with ID
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: CROOKED @ Nickie's on Haight/Fillmore : WEDNESDAY NIGHT!!!

If you go, make sure you GET BENT

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Subject: RE: [sfraves] BSP: CROOKED @ Nickie's on Haight/Fillmore : 
WEDNESDAY NIGHT!!!


> anyone going?
> thinking about it....
> Dan-0
>
>
>
> "Vergoofin der flicke stoobin mit der brk-brk
> yubetcha!" -Swedish Chef
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>>From: "Van Mundegaarde" <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
>>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: [sfraves] BSP: CROOKED @ Nickie's on Haight/Fillmore : WEDNESDAY 
>>NIGHT!!!
>>Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 10:55:34 -0700
>>
>>Yes yes! The time has come to move to a venue a little more our speed: 
>>Darker, dirtier, grittier, louder, closer into the center of everything. 
>>Nickie's on Lower Haight is just the spot, and I've been eyeing it up and 
>>down for a while. So we snatched up Wednesdays really quickly, and we're 
>>running with it as hard as we can. And we just couldn't resist the name 
>>"Crooked," knowing the way things usually get at Nickie's.
>>
>>m.d.K, Erok, Evinrude and I (the newly formed "Renegade Ferrets version 
>>1.2") will be holding it down, bringing in very special guests from around 
>>the Bay and beyond every week. We go from 10pm 'til 2am at Nickie's, and, 
>>unfortunately, we can't keep the free door hook-ups that we used to have 
>>at @lpha - we've got to charge $3 at the door at Crooked. But come on, 
>>$3... that's less than the cost of a drink! And well worth it for the 
>>lineups we plan to put together on a weekly basis.
>>
>>For our premiere show, this week, August 9th, we're gonna kick it off with 
>>a lineup that's a bit of a preview of the type of night we want this to be 
>>every time (with an admitted bit of overkill on the numbers, since this 
>>one's special) - a few of our favorites all coming together for one wicked 
>>night of breaks:
>>
>>
>>8.9.06:
>>Kapt'n Kirk
>>Ernie Trevino
>>Ripple
>>Satsi
>>Evinrude
>>
>>So come out, have a drink with us, say hello, and help us usher in 
>>Crooked, a brand-new way to do Wednesday nights.
>>
>>Oh yeah, I almost forgot:
>>
>>GET BENT!!!
>>
>>8.16.06 lineup:
>>Kris Kent
>>Thomas Kent
>>Hyjinx
>>Marc(O)
>>
>>
>>CROOKED happens every Wednesday @
>>Nickie's BBQ
>>460 Haight St. @ Fillmore, SF
>>10pm-2am, $3, 21+ with ID
>>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: CROOKED @ Nickie's on Haight/Fillmore : WEDNESDAY NIGHT!!!

Hell ya.. Ripple is on at 11 maybe.. or 1am.. depends if he has to sub for a 
missing DJ.. question is who??  Hmmm!

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From: "nico" <nico@viberation.com>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: CROOKED @ Nickie's on Haight/Fillmore : 
WEDNESDAY NIGHT!!!
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 16:25:58 -0700

If you go, make sure you GET BENT

----- Original Message ----- From: "Danny Picard" <blooshaman@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 4:25 PM
Subject: RE: [sfraves] BSP: CROOKED @ Nickie's on Haight/Fillmore : 
WEDNESDAY NIGHT!!!


>anyone going?
>thinking about it....
>Dan-0
>
>
>
>"Vergoofin der flicke stoobin mit der brk-brk
>yubetcha!" -Swedish Chef
>
>http://www.myspace.com/spiffythewarrior
>http://people.tribe.net/spiffy
>AIM --->spiffythewarrior
>
>
>
>
>
>>From: "Van Mundegaarde" <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
>>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: [sfraves] BSP: CROOKED @ Nickie's on Haight/Fillmore : WEDNESDAY 
>>NIGHT!!!
>>Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 10:55:34 -0700
>>
>>Yes yes! The time has come to move to a venue a little more our speed: 
>>Darker, dirtier, grittier, louder, closer into the center of everything. 
>>Nickie's on Lower Haight is just the spot, and I've been eyeing it up and 
>>down for a while. So we snatched up Wednesdays really quickly, and we're 
>>running with it as hard as we can. And we just couldn't resist the name 
>>"Crooked," knowing the way things usually get at Nickie's.
>>
>>m.d.K, Erok, Evinrude and I (the newly formed "Renegade Ferrets version 
>>1.2") will be holding it down, bringing in very special guests from around 
>>the Bay and beyond every week. We go from 10pm 'til 2am at Nickie's, and, 
>>unfortunately, we can't keep the free door hook-ups that we used to have 
>>at @lpha - we've got to charge $3 at the door at Crooked. But come on, 
>>$3... that's less than the cost of a drink! And well worth it for the 
>>lineups we plan to put together on a weekly basis.
>>
>>For our premiere show, this week, August 9th, we're gonna kick it off with 
>>a lineup that's a bit of a preview of the type of night we want this to be 
>>every time (with an admitted bit of overkill on the numbers, since this 
>>one's special) - a few of our favorites all coming together for one wicked 
>>night of breaks:
>>
>>
>>8.9.06:
>>Kapt'n Kirk
>>Ernie Trevino
>>Ripple
>>Satsi
>>Evinrude
>>
>>So come out, have a drink with us, say hello, and help us usher in 
>>Crooked, a brand-new way to do Wednesday nights.
>>
>>Oh yeah, I almost forgot:
>>
>>GET BENT!!!
>>
>>8.16.06 lineup:
>>Kris Kent
>>Thomas Kent
>>Hyjinx
>>Marc(O)
>>
>>
>>CROOKED happens every Wednesday @
>>Nickie's BBQ
>>460 Haight St. @ Fillmore, SF
>>10pm-2am, $3, 21+ with ID
>>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: CROOKED @ Nickie's on Haight/Fillmore : WEDNESDAY NIGHT!!!

get bent?  with Ripple,
I don't think he plays that game....
;)


"Vergoofin der flicke stoobin mit der brk-brk
yubetcha!" -Swedish Chef

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>From: "Ranger -" <plurranger@hotmail.com>
>To: nico@viberation.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: CROOKED @ Nickie's on Haight/Fillmore : 
>WEDNESDAY NIGHT!!!
>Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 16:36:08 -0700
>
>Hell ya.. Ripple is on at 11 maybe.. or 1am.. depends if he has to sub for 
>a missing DJ.. question is who??  Hmmm!
>
>Ranger
>
>
>
>SFR: Ranger
>San Francisco
>plurranger@hotmail.com
>Who knows where the night leads
>It's dark and no one can see
>
>
>
>
>
>From: "nico" <nico@viberation.com>
>To: <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: CROOKED @ Nickie's on Haight/Fillmore : 
>WEDNESDAY NIGHT!!!
>Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 16:25:58 -0700
>
>If you go, make sure you GET BENT
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Danny Picard" <blooshaman@hotmail.com>
>To: <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>; <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 4:25 PM
>Subject: RE: [sfraves] BSP: CROOKED @ Nickie's on Haight/Fillmore : 
>WEDNESDAY NIGHT!!!
>
>
>>anyone going?
>>thinking about it....
>>Dan-0
>>
>>
>>
>>"Vergoofin der flicke stoobin mit der brk-brk
>>yubetcha!" -Swedish Chef
>>
>>http://www.myspace.com/spiffythewarrior
>>http://people.tribe.net/spiffy
>>AIM --->spiffythewarrior
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: "Van Mundegaarde" <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
>>>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>>Subject: [sfraves] BSP: CROOKED @ Nickie's on Haight/Fillmore : WEDNESDAY 
>>>NIGHT!!!
>>>Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 10:55:34 -0700
>>>
>>>Yes yes! The time has come to move to a venue a little more our speed: 
>>>Darker, dirtier, grittier, louder, closer into the center of everything. 
>>>Nickie's on Lower Haight is just the spot, and I've been eyeing it up and 
>>>down for a while. So we snatched up Wednesdays really quickly, and we're 
>>>running with it as hard as we can. And we just couldn't resist the name 
>>>"Crooked," knowing the way things usually get at Nickie's.
>>>
>>>m.d.K, Erok, Evinrude and I (the newly formed "Renegade Ferrets version 
>>>1.2") will be holding it down, bringing in very special guests from 
>>>around the Bay and beyond every week. We go from 10pm 'til 2am at 
>>>Nickie's, and, unfortunately, we can't keep the free door hook-ups that 
>>>we used to have at @lpha - we've got to charge $3 at the door at Crooked. 
>>>But come on, $3... that's less than the cost of a drink! And well worth 
>>>it for the lineups we plan to put together on a weekly basis.
>>>
>>>For our premiere show, this week, August 9th, we're gonna kick it off 
>>>with a lineup that's a bit of a preview of the type of night we want this 
>>>to be every time (with an admitted bit of overkill on the numbers, since 
>>>this one's special) - a few of our favorites all coming together for one 
>>>wicked night of breaks:
>>>
>>>
>>>8.9.06:
>>>Kapt'n Kirk
>>>Ernie Trevino
>>>Ripple
>>>Satsi
>>>Evinrude
>>>
>>>So come out, have a drink with us, say hello, and help us usher in 
>>>Crooked, a brand-new way to do Wednesday nights.
>>>
>>>Oh yeah, I almost forgot:
>>>
>>>GET BENT!!!
>>>
>>>8.16.06 lineup:
>>>Kris Kent
>>>Thomas Kent
>>>Hyjinx
>>>Marc(O)
>>>
>>>
>>>CROOKED happens every Wednesday @
>>>Nickie's BBQ
>>>460 Haight St. @ Fillmore, SF
>>>10pm-2am, $3, 21+ with ID
>>>
>>>_________________________________________________________________
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Obsoleet ROLL CALL!

we love Andy and Li
*smooches*
Danny



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yubetcha!" -Swedish Chef

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>From: AndyW <andy@saturn5.com>
>To: Justin Hale <djjustinhale@yahoo.com>
>CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] Obsoleet ROLL CALL!
>Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 16:14:42 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
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>HELLO SFR, I MISSED YOU.
>
>                   xxx
>
>LI AND I ARE GOING TO TELEPATHETICALLY FUCK YOUR CAT WITH MUSIC.  YOU KNOW
>US.  REMEMBER THAT PARTY AT THE ARMORY WHERE THAT GUY WAS NAKED IN THE
>MORNING AND EVERYBODY HAD THAT BIG GROUP HUG?  WE DID THAT.  REMEMBER THAT
>GIRL SITTING IN THE SPEAKER WITH THE BOWL OF FRUIT?  WE DID THAT.  YOU
>REMEMBER THE NIGHT WHERE CHRISTOPHER LAWRENCE HAD HIS SET CUT SHORT BY A
>PAIR OF TECHNO FUCKNARDS?  THAT WAS US TOO.  YOU KNOW THAT STUPID SNOOP
>DOGG GIRLS GONE WILD VIDEO?  WE DID THAT TOO, THAT STUPID VIDEO WAS JUST A
>RE-ENACMENT BUT MISSED THE WHOLE VIBE CAUSE IN THE ORIGINAL NO MONEY
>CHANGED HANDS AND THE FEELINGS WERE REAL.  OR HOW ABOUT THE SET AT THE
>HARMONY 5 YEAR THAT GOT BUSTED TO SHIT, YEAH WE WERE THERE TOO.  WE HAVE
>BEEN THE JUSTICE KEEPERS, THE VINYL LIBRARIANS AND WE WERE ALWAYS NICE TO
>YOU.  EVERY GOOD TIME YOU EVER HAD WAS CAUSE OF US, AND DON'T EVEN TALK
>ABOUT YOUR FIRST LAY CAUSE THAT WASN'T US AND IT WASN'T ALL THAT AND YOU'D
>KNOW THIS IF YOU WEREN'T SO DAMN DRUNK ALL THE TIME (ok fine, we're just
>really happy to be playing and hope you enjoy what we're bringing)
>
>                   xxx
>
>IF YOU MISS THIS YOU ARE DUMB!!!!!1!!1!11!11!!!
>
><3
>&eUU
>
>p.s. also of note, I'm dropping B-Boy-Break Bombs at Secret
>Breakasomething or other monday night @ the savoy in lovely Santa Clara I
>thinks.  Bring out your adidas and linoleum.  Or not.  Electroghettobreaks
>with a Polish lean in the women's club BOOOYAKA.
>
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><BLINK> *fuckyeah oldschool dootdoot!* </BLINK>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>meow<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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>"Nothing real can defeat us.  Nothing unreal exists." - Buckaroo Banzai
>
>On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Justin Hale wrote:
>-&e->oops.. i think i meant WMD not WMA..
>-&e->
>-&e->in any event, lookout yoda, luke's been training...
>-&e->
>-&e->--- Justin Hale <djjustinhale@yahoo.com> wrote:
>-&e->
>-&e->> I hope CJ's preparing himself... I'm packing bombs..
>-&e->> WMA type big bass bombs. I finally get the chance
>-&e->> after 13+ years to take you on... in public..
>-&e->>
>-&e->> prepare yoself Mr. Jax. i'm bringing everything you
>-&e->> taught me and more... hhmmmwwahhahhahahha...
>-&e->>
>-&e->> --- Terry Estioko <terry@hyperreal.org> wrote:
>-&e->>
>-&e->> > 10,000 lumens of visuals firepower locked and
>-&e->> > loaded.
>-&e->> >
>-&e->> > See ya in 3 days :-)
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Gooooooo team!!  Glad to see we're working together to take these party
goers on a mystical journey through space and time.  Yoda can't be killed my
man....he dies on his own...

=)

CJ

PS:  Take me on....pssssh.  DON'T make me try!!

-----Original Message-----
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I hope CJ's preparing himself... I'm packing bombs..
WMA type big bass bombs. I finally get the chance
after 13+ years to take you on... in public.. 

prepare yoself Mr. Jax. i'm bringing everything you
taught me and more... hhmmmwwahhahhahahha...

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> 
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As am I!

Time for a TEAM LUSH revival!!!!

m

--- nico <nico@viberation.com> wrote:

> I'm looking forward to this.
> 
> love always
> 
> n i c o
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> > after 13+ years to take you on... in public.. 
> > 
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Aw shit I'm trying to quit drinking and you provoke me to dust off my Team 
Nico jersey and pads.  Hrm, maybe I can find an alternative ... SOME PEOPLE 
CALL IT A SUBSTITUTE, like in sports ... get it!?  HAH.

That would mean Team Lush is the defensive squad, and Team Nico is back on 
offense.  amirite!?

love always

n i c o
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> As am I!
>
> Time for a TEAM LUSH revival!!!!
>
> m
>
> --- nico <nico@viberation.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm looking forward to this.
>>
>> love always
>>
>> n i c o
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Justin Hale" <djjustinhale@yahoo.com>
>> To: <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:28 AM
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Obsoleet ROLL CALL!
>>
>>
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>> > after 13+ years to take you on... in public..
>> >
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>> > taught me and more... hhmmmwwahhahhahahha...
>> >
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OK.. I know for a fact that i won't be there for most the night.. but
y'all be nic3 to my Twin Bro.. even though he's an Asshole!
 Goodbye Tomorrow
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>>
>> See ya in 3 days :-)
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>> -terry
>>
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>>
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this is just plain unacceptable.


On 8/9/06, Osby Oi Oi Jamz <osby@viberation.com> wrote:
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Obsoleet ROLL CALL!

If Gothby shows up, I'm shoving vodka down his bitter angsty throat!

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On Aug 9, 2006, at 5:21 PM, Osby Oi Oi Jamz wrote:

> OK.. I know for a fact that i won't be there for most the night.. but
> y'all be nic3 to my Twin Bro.. even though he's an Asshole!
>  Goodbye Tomorrow
> --=20
> Take Care <3
> Peace=3D->Jus' Me =3D-> O=A7bY {8O)
>
>
>
> Justin Hale wrote:
>> I hope CJ's preparing himself... I'm packing bombs..
>> WMA type big bass bombs. I finally get the chance
>> after 13+ years to take you on... in public..
>>
>> prepare yoself Mr. Jax. i'm bringing everything you
>> taught me and more... hhmmmwwahhahhahahha...
>>
>> --- Terry Estioko <terry@hyperreal.org> wrote:
>>
>>> 10,000 lumens of visuals firepower locked and
>>> loaded.
>>>
>>> See ya in 3 days :-)
>>>
>>> -terry
>>>
>>> On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, JonnyR@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> The real SF Raves party is upon us!  The flyer
>>> looks really great. The design
>>>> AND who's on it. And we know the visuals will be
>>> really nice thanks to Terry.
>>>>   !!111!!!!!   Obsoleet is GRATE
>>> !!1!!!!!!111111!!!!!!!!!
>>>>
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Subject: [sfraves] Obsoleet

Are you guys all actually playing records? Thats some
fuckin crazy shit. Wish I was in town....

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ROLL CALL!
 
My name's Alida. (WERD!)
Not from Korea. (Say what?!)
Hope that you'll be there (Fer reals)
So I can meetcha! (TOUCHE!)
 
Er... in other words, I'll be there with whistles and  more whistles on. You 
know... the kind that go whoot whoot! just to annoy  the shit out of you jaded 
ravers. ; )
 
Seriously, I hope that you guys can all come. There's a few of you I still  
haven't met after all these years and I would love to get the chance to connect 
 with SFR folk, new and old alike. If past SFRP events serve as indication, 
this  will be a party to remember.
 
See you this Saturday! : D
 
Heart,
Alida

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I have a crush on the sound guy and it's been far too long since I've seen
Justin Hale, so I spose I'll come out :)

~juju


On 8/8/06, Nic Werner <nicwerner@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Who else is going to this great party? I don't go out to a lot of
> parties, but the 2x4 action is going to be amazing, where else do you
> get to see these sick DJs throw down against each other?
>
> I'm realy stoked to see an actual SFR party, I know there will be a
> lot of old and new heads there, looking forward to catching up with
> everyone.
>
> Whose with me?!
>
> - Buzz/Nic
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >  First we Connected the Bay, then took you into the depths of an
> Egyptian
> >Relic, finishing you off with a climatic Amalgamation. The next step is
> >Obsolescence.  SFR Planners presents: Obsoleet   Saturday, August 12th
> 2006
> >    2x4s all night:
> >
> >   Bam vs. Marc(O)
> >   [Evil Breaks] [Otherworld,Ill Behavior]
> >
> >   Drag'nfly vs. Calamity Jane
> >   [Love Tribe,Shaolin,djDragnfly.com] [Wom SF,Ambient Mafia]
> >
> >   AndyW vs. Li
> >   [Viberation, Resource Records, Wow] [Viberation]
> >
> >   FingerMonsters
> >   [Origami, Shazbot, Cubik & Andrew Phelan - Monsta Music]
> >
> >   Yagi vs. Dj Aphelion
> >   [OTC, HCFTP] [Clandestine]
> >
> >   Justin Hale vs. Chris Jackson
> >   [Sticky] [Resource Records]
> >
> >   Superannuated binary walls of visuals by Viberation
> >   4 stacks of steam-powered sound reinforcement by SWAT Sound
> >   Defunct Decor by the SFR-Planners crew
> >
> >   Full bar for the 21+
> >
> >   10pm - 6 am
> >   East Bay location
> >   $10 tickets @ door
> >   All ages.
> >   (866) 240-3064
> >  http://sfraves.org/obsoleet/
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Obsoleet ROLL CALL!

sweet!


sarilion

At 05:45 PM 8/9/2006, you wrote:
>If Gothby shows up, I'm shoving vodka down his bitter angsty throat!
>
>--
>"Jupiter accepts your offer..."
>AIM:IMFDUP
>
>
>
>On Aug 9, 2006, at 5:21 PM, Osby Oi Oi Jamz wrote:
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>>OK.. I know for a fact that i won't be there for most the night.. but
>>y'all be nic3 to my Twin Bro.. even though he's an Asshole!
>>  Goodbye Tomorrow
>>--
>>Take Care <3
>>Peace=3D->Jus' Me =3D-> O=A7bY {8O)
>>
>>
>>
>>Justin Hale wrote:
>>>I hope CJ's preparing himself... I'm packing bombs..
>>>WMA type big bass bombs. I finally get the chance
>>>after 13+ years to take you on... in public..
>>>
>>>prepare yoself Mr. Jax. i'm bringing everything you
>>>taught me and more... hhmmmwwahhahhahahha...
>>>
>>>--- Terry Estioko <terry@hyperreal.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>10,000 lumens of visuals firepower locked and
>>>>loaded.
>>>>
>>>>See ya in 3 days :-)
>>>>
>>>>-terry
>>>>
>>>>On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, JonnyR@aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>The real SF Raves party is upon us!  The flyer
>>>>looks really great. The design
>>>>>AND who's on it. And we know the visuals will be
>>>>really nice thanks to Terry.
>>>>>   !!111!!!!!   Obsoleet is GRATE
>>>>!!1!!!!!!111111!!!!!!!!!
>>>>
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Subject: RE: [sfraves] BSP: CROOKED @ Nickie's on Haight/Fillmore : WEDNESDAY NIGHT!!!

Come on out...should be a nifty Wednesday night!




>From: "Danny Picard" <blooshaman@hotmail.com>
>To: electrofunk138@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: RE: [sfraves] BSP: CROOKED @ Nickie's on Haight/Fillmore : 
>WEDNESDAY NIGHT!!!
>Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 16:25:09 -0700
>
>anyone going?
>thinking about it....
>Dan-0
>
>
>
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>>From: "Van Mundegaarde" <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
>>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: [sfraves] BSP: CROOKED @ Nickie's on Haight/Fillmore : WEDNESDAY 
>>NIGHT!!!
>>Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 10:55:34 -0700
>>
>>Yes yes! The time has come to move to a venue a little more our speed: 
>>Darker, dirtier, grittier, louder, closer into the center of everything. 
>>Nickie's on Lower Haight is just the spot, and I've been eyeing it up and 
>>down for a while. So we snatched up Wednesdays really quickly, and we're 
>>running with it as hard as we can. And we just couldn't resist the name 
>>"Crooked," knowing the way things usually get at Nickie's.
>>
>>m.d.K, Erok, Evinrude and I (the newly formed "Renegade Ferrets version 
>>1.2") will be holding it down, bringing in very special guests from around 
>>the Bay and beyond every week. We go from 10pm 'til 2am at Nickie's, and, 
>>unfortunately, we can't keep the free door hook-ups that we used to have 
>>at @lpha - we've got to charge $3 at the door at Crooked. But come on, 
>>$3... that's less than the cost of a drink! And well worth it for the 
>>lineups we plan to put together on a weekly basis.
>>
>>For our premiere show, this week, August 9th, we're gonna kick it off with 
>>a lineup that's a bit of a preview of the type of night we want this to be 
>>every time (with an admitted bit of overkill on the numbers, since this 
>>one's special) - a few of our favorites all coming together for one wicked 
>>night of breaks:
>>
>>
>>8.9.06:
>>Kapt'n Kirk
>>Ernie Trevino
>>Ripple
>>Satsi
>>Evinrude
>>
>>So come out, have a drink with us, say hello, and help us usher in 
>>Crooked, a brand-new way to do Wednesday nights.
>>
>>Oh yeah, I almost forgot:
>>
>>GET BENT!!!
>>
>>8.16.06 lineup:
>>Kris Kent
>>Thomas Kent
>>Hyjinx
>>Marc(O)
>>
>>
>>CROOKED happens every Wednesday @
>>Nickie's BBQ
>>460 Haight St. @ Fillmore, SF
>>10pm-2am, $3, 21+ with ID
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I'm sick and tired of squatters. Anyone know how to deal with them?
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want to pay 500 bucks to do it.


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I'm hoping Boooomie & Steve Osteen show up....

it be nice to see you guys out and about and drunk, hehehe...


Sarilion <sarilion@sarilion.org> wrote: sweet!


sarilion

At 05:45 PM 8/9/2006, you wrote:
>If Gothby shows up, I'm shoving vodka down his bitter angsty throat!
>
>--
>"Jupiter accepts your offer..."
>AIM:IMFDUP
>
>
>
>On Aug 9, 2006, at 5:21 PM, Osby Oi Oi Jamz wrote:
>
>>OK.. I know for a fact that i won't be there for most the night.. but
>>y'all be nic3 to my Twin Bro.. even though he's an Asshole!
>>  Goodbye Tomorrow
>>--
>>Take Care <3
>>Peace=->Jus' Me =-> O§bY {8O)
>>
>>
>>
>>Justin Hale wrote:
>>>I hope CJ's preparing himself... I'm packing bombs..
>>>WMA type big bass bombs. I finally get the chance
>>>after 13+ years to take you on... in public..
>>>
>>>prepare yoself Mr. Jax. i'm bringing everything you
>>>taught me and more... hhmmmwwahhahhahahha...
>>>
>>>--- Terry Estioko  wrote:
>>>
>>>>10,000 lumens of visuals firepower locked and
>>>>loaded.
>>>>
>>>>See ya in 3 days :-)
>>>>
>>>>-terry
>>>>
>>>>On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, JonnyR@aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>The real SF Raves party is upon us!  The flyer
>>>>looks really great. The design
>>>>>AND who's on it. And we know the visuals will be
>>>>really nice thanks to Terry.
>>>>>   !!111!!!!!   Obsoleet is GRATE
>>>>!!1!!!!!!111111!!!!!!!!!
>>>>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Obsoleet ROLL CALL!

A super friendly Nico alternative?

I'm really looking forward to this. :)

ta


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "nico" <nico@viberation.com>
To: "michael, the red stickman" <red_stickman@yahoo.com>; 
<sfraves@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 5:15 PM
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> Aw shit I'm trying to quit drinking and you provoke me to dust off my Team 
> Nico jersey and pads.  Hrm, maybe I can find an alternative ... SOME 
> PEOPLE CALL IT A SUBSTITUTE, like in sports ... get it!?  HAH.
>
> That would mean Team Lush is the defensive squad, and Team Nico is back on 
> offense.  amirite!?
>
> love always
>
> n i c o
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "michael, the red stickman" <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
> To: <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 4:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Obsoleet ROLL CALL!
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>
>> As am I!
>>
>> Time for a TEAM LUSH revival!!!!
>>
>> m
>>
>> --- nico <nico@viberation.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm looking forward to this.
>>>
>>> love always
>>>
>>> n i c o
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Justin Hale" <djjustinhale@yahoo.com>
>>> To: <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:28 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Obsoleet ROLL CALL!
>>>
>>>
>>> >I hope CJ's preparing himself... I'm packing bombs..
>>> > WMA type big bass bombs. I finally get the chance
>>> > after 13+ years to take you on... in public..
>>> >
>>> > prepare yoself Mr. Jax. i'm bringing everything you
>>> > taught me and more... hhmmmwwahhahhahahha...
>>> >
>>> > --- Terry Estioko <terry@hyperreal.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> 10,000 lumens of visuals firepower locked and
>>> >> loaded.
>>> >>
>>> >> See ya in 3 days :-)
>>> >>
>>> >> -terry
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, JonnyR@aol.com wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > The real SF Raves party is upon us!  The flyer
>>> >> looks really great. The design
>>> >> > AND who's on it. And we know the visuals will be
>>> >> really nice thanks to Terry.
>>> >> >   !!111!!!!!   Obsoleet is GRATE
>>> >> !!1!!!!!!111111!!!!!!!!!
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: CROOKED @ Nickie's on Haight/Fillmore : WEDNESDAY NIGHT!!!

Read the thread fewl.. 1am.. call me out like that - damn haha

LOL





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From: "Danny Picard" <blooshaman@hotmail.com>
To: plurranger@hotmail.com, nico@viberation.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: CROOKED @ Nickie's on Haight/Fillmore : 
WEDNESDAY NIGHT!!!
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 16:39:30 -0700

get bent?  with Ripple,
I don't think he plays that game....
;)


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>From: "Ranger -" <plurranger@hotmail.com>
>To: nico@viberation.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: CROOKED @ Nickie's on Haight/Fillmore : 
>WEDNESDAY NIGHT!!!
>Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 16:36:08 -0700
>
>Hell ya.. Ripple is on at 11 maybe.. or 1am.. depends if he has to sub for 
>a missing DJ.. question is who??  Hmmm!
>
>Ranger
>
>
>
>SFR: Ranger
>San Francisco
>plurranger@hotmail.com
>Who knows where the night leads
>It's dark and no one can see
>
>
>
>
>
>From: "nico" <nico@viberation.com>
>To: <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: CROOKED @ Nickie's on Haight/Fillmore : 
>WEDNESDAY NIGHT!!!
>Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 16:25:58 -0700
>
>If you go, make sure you GET BENT
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Danny Picard" <blooshaman@hotmail.com>
>To: <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>; <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 4:25 PM
>Subject: RE: [sfraves] BSP: CROOKED @ Nickie's on Haight/Fillmore : 
>WEDNESDAY NIGHT!!!
>
>
>>anyone going?
>>thinking about it....
>>Dan-0
>>
>>
>>
>>"Vergoofin der flicke stoobin mit der brk-brk
>>yubetcha!" -Swedish Chef
>>
>>http://www.myspace.com/spiffythewarrior
>>http://people.tribe.net/spiffy
>>AIM --->spiffythewarrior
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: "Van Mundegaarde" <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
>>>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>>Subject: [sfraves] BSP: CROOKED @ Nickie's on Haight/Fillmore : WEDNESDAY 
>>>NIGHT!!!
>>>Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 10:55:34 -0700
>>>
>>>Yes yes! The time has come to move to a venue a little more our speed: 
>>>Darker, dirtier, grittier, louder, closer into the center of everything. 
>>>Nickie's on Lower Haight is just the spot, and I've been eyeing it up and 
>>>down for a while. So we snatched up Wednesdays really quickly, and we're 
>>>running with it as hard as we can. And we just couldn't resist the name 
>>>"Crooked," knowing the way things usually get at Nickie's.
>>>
>>>m.d.K, Erok, Evinrude and I (the newly formed "Renegade Ferrets version 
>>>1.2") will be holding it down, bringing in very special guests from 
>>>around the Bay and beyond every week. We go from 10pm 'til 2am at 
>>>Nickie's, and, unfortunately, we can't keep the free door hook-ups that 
>>>we used to have at @lpha - we've got to charge $3 at the door at Crooked. 
>>>But come on, $3... that's less than the cost of a drink! And well worth 
>>>it for the lineups we plan to put together on a weekly basis.
>>>
>>>For our premiere show, this week, August 9th, we're gonna kick it off 
>>>with a lineup that's a bit of a preview of the type of night we want this 
>>>to be every time (with an admitted bit of overkill on the numbers, since 
>>>this one's special) - a few of our favorites all coming together for one 
>>>wicked night of breaks:
>>>
>>>
>>>8.9.06:
>>>Kapt'n Kirk
>>>Ernie Trevino
>>>Ripple
>>>Satsi
>>>Evinrude
>>>
>>>So come out, have a drink with us, say hello, and help us usher in 
>>>Crooked, a brand-new way to do Wednesday nights.
>>>
>>>Oh yeah, I almost forgot:
>>>
>>>GET BENT!!!
>>>
>>>8.16.06 lineup:
>>>Kris Kent
>>>Thomas Kent
>>>Hyjinx
>>>Marc(O)
>>>
>>>
>>>CROOKED happens every Wednesday @
>>>Nickie's BBQ
>>>460 Haight St. @ Fillmore, SF
>>>10pm-2am, $3, 21+ with ID
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Obsoleet ROLL CALL!

TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE

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> this is just plain unacceptable.
> 
> 
> On 8/9/06, Osby Oi Oi Jamz <osby@viberation.com> wrote:
>> OK.. I know for a fact that i won't be there for most the night..
> 
> 
> -- 
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Subject: [sfraves] DJ sets from the last Alumni

i know one of you bastards downloaded the streams off the DNA lounge
website and saved those sets.

give it up suckas!

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Word
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Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 11:37 AM
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>i know one of you bastards downloaded the streams off the DNA lounge
> website and saved those sets.
> 
> give it up suckas!
> 
> -- 
> --------------------------
> < Brandon / DJ Bam >
> 
> DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
> http://www.evilbreaks.com
> 
> July 3rd:  Dyn-O-Might! @ Mighty
> July 15th:  Badolina @ 550 Barnaveld
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so my kid, who is going to be 13 in dec...
has been visiting the pr0n sites lately....on his computer...
i just rand sacked his email addy and had to delete him of a few sites that he registered for..

he had a few yourtube clips of stripper chicks aswell...oi vei

my question to all you smarty interweb software users is...what is the best program to use...he's using a wireless router...can i change the setting on my router for that specific cmputer...or do i need to buy a separate program for his computer...

i heard about cybersitter and net nanny...dunno if it works thou...

i know he's at age where he is curious, i guess i'm not ready for that...or do u guys think i'm over reacting?

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Just tell him where the good stuff is.  Better to steer than to try and stifle- c'mon, he's 13.

..if he's scamming your credit card to join sites, that's another story.

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so my kid, who is going to be 13 in dec...
has been visiting the pr0n sites lately....on his computer...
i just rand sacked his email addy and had to delete him of a few sites that he registered for..

he had a few yourtube clips of stripper chicks aswell...oi vei

my question to all you smarty interweb software users is...what is the best program to use...he's using a wireless router...can i change the setting on my router for that specific cmputer...or do i need to buy a separate program for his computer...

i heard about cybersitter and net nanny...dunno if it works thou...

i know he's at age where he is curious, i guess i'm not ready for that...or do u guys think i'm over reacting?

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I was going to write something similiar to that myself, but was waiting on a concensus. Yeah, teach him about free thumb galleries & P2P. No need for the credit card to get maxed out just yet!
   
  On a more serious note, sounds like you're turning to this list for help. If your son is capable of utilizing a wireless router, I think the only thing any content filter would do is develop his hacking skills. If it's an issue, you can always unplug the router at night if it's outside of his room- but more importantly- perhaps it's about that time for the 'talk. Don't try to dictate anything to him, just ask if he has any questions or find a dude that he trusts to rap with him. Tell him that he's normal to be curious and not to feel shy about it, but at the same time there's a "time & place" for such subject matter just like dirty jokes or cuss words. What's important is that he learns not to embarrass himself and all will be well. Sometimes kids like to feel like adults, so if you teach him that it's an adult thing and how adults handle it, maybe he'll run with it. Hope that helps, I'm just guessing at this shit. 
   
  I wish my parents were on SFR. 
   
  Best, 
   
  Chuck

georgeC | origami <newstylesound@yahoo.com> wrote:
  Just tell him where the good stuff is. Better to steer than to try and stifle- c'mon, he's 13.

..if he's scamming your credit card to join sites, that's another story.

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so my kid, who is going to be 13 in dec...
has been visiting the pr0n sites lately....on his computer...
i just rand sacked his email addy and had to delete him of a few sites that he registered for..

he had a few yourtube clips of stripper chicks aswell...oi vei

my question to all you smarty interweb software users is...what is the best program to use...he's using a wireless router...can i change the setting on my router for that specific cmputer...or do i need to buy a separate program for his computer...

i heard about cybersitter and net nanny...dunno if it works thou...

i know he's at age where he is curious, i guess i'm not ready for that...or do u guys think i'm over reacting?

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Here's an article.  Its illegal, but only if you own a trademark for
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Oooh.. I hate net nanny.. she's such a bitch.. but she's is a good like
"babysitter" thought 'cause she blocks out keywords.. but then again..
that's also a downfall if u get it 'cause u may wanna get on some of them
sites that the keywords have...
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adriana wrote:
> so my kid, who is going to be 13 in dec...
> has been visiting the pr0n sites lately....on his computer...
> i just rand sacked his email addy and had to delete him of a few sites
> that he registered for..
>
> he had a few yourtube clips of stripper chicks aswell...oi vei
>
> my question to all you smarty interweb software users is...what is the
> best program to use...he's using a wireless router...can i change the
> setting on my router for that specific cmputer...or do i need to buy a
> separate program for his computer...
>
> i heard about cybersitter and net nanny...dunno if it works thou...
>
> i know he's at age where he is curious, i guess i'm not ready for
> that...or do u guys think i'm over reacting?
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> -adriana
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Um, I think about this stuff all the time, as I see
billboards and adds for sex any time I move 10 feet in
Las Vegas.

It is innapropriate for a boy to see porn and sex at
his age. If he is to grow up with a normal view of
sexual relationships with women as well as a general
respect for women, block the porn with whatever
resources you can manage. Best of all, talk to him
about it, make him face it, make him see how
uncomfortable he is with it around you as his mother.
My therapist years ago told me that mothers, as mine
did, often abruptly lose touch with their sons at age
12 -13, because they don't know how to approach and
deal with their emerging sexuality.

This being said, I remember all my first sexual
experiences, the uncomfortableness of touching a girls
"boob," trying to "get down her pants," etc.... I had
no idea what I was looking for, what it would feel
like, and was often in awe or confused, or over
stimulated, etc.... ANd... so was she.

Point being, letting your 12 yr old get all the info
without going through the experimentation is like
handing a kid a speech to text converter and never
teaching them to write or spell...

Most important... to much porn to a 12 yr old breeds
bizarre expectations, dissociative sexual habits, and
probably leads to an increased chance of date rape in
the future. That being said, there is a HUGE
difference between seeing a naked woman in playboy,
and watching people FUCK.

My TWO cents.

Eric

--- adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com> wrote:

> so my kid, who is going to be 13 in dec...
> has been visiting the pr0n sites lately....on his
> computer...
> i just rand sacked his email addy and had to delete
> him of a few sites that he registered for..
> 
> he had a few yourtube clips of stripper chicks
> aswell...oi vei
> 
> my question to all you smarty interweb software
> users is...what is the best program to use...he's
> using a wireless router...can i change the setting
> on my router for that specific cmputer...or do i
> need to buy a separate program for his computer...
> 
> i heard about cybersitter and net nanny...dunno if
> it works thou...
> 
> i know he's at age where he is curious, i guess i'm
> not ready for that...or do u guys think i'm over
> reacting?
> 
> -adriana
> 
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Adriana,

I agree with Eric, I don't see any need for a 13 year old to be watching
hard core nrop and without a proper father figure showing how to properly
treat and respect women this could be a big cause of concern. I say check
out his history folder (or cache folder if he is savvy enough to clear the
history folder) and see exactly where he is going, then make a list of the
domain names. You can then go into your router and ban all the domains (like
www.whenharrywetsally.com). If you have a linksys router you can access it
by typing in http://192.168.1.1/ on a connected computer.
Also, is it possible to place the computer in a easily seen place, like the
family room? and Limit the time allowed.

I don't let my son use the internet unless I'm in the same room and made a
firm rule that he must tell me before he does any google searches for
anything.

Good luck!



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> Um, I think about this stuff all the time, as I see
> billboards and adds for sex any time I move 10 feet in
> Las Vegas.
>
> It is innapropriate for a boy to see porn and sex at
> his age. If he is to grow up with a normal view of
> sexual relationships with women as well as a general
> respect for women, block the porn with whatever
> resources you can manage. Best of all, talk to him
> about it, make him face it, make him see how
> uncomfortable he is with it around you as his mother.
> My therapist years ago told me that mothers, as mine
> did, often abruptly lose touch with their sons at age
> 12 -13, because they don't know how to approach and
> deal with their emerging sexuality.
>
> This being said, I remember all my first sexual
> experiences, the uncomfortableness of touching a girls
> "boob," trying to "get down her pants," etc.... I had
> no idea what I was looking for, what it would feel
> like, and was often in awe or confused, or over
> stimulated, etc.... ANd... so was she.
>
> Point being, letting your 12 yr old get all the info
> without going through the experimentation is like
> handing a kid a speech to text converter and never
> teaching them to write or spell...
>
> Most important... to much porn to a 12 yr old breeds
> bizarre expectations, dissociative sexual habits, and
> probably leads to an increased chance of date rape in
> the future. That being said, there is a HUGE
> difference between seeing a naked woman in playboy,
> and watching people FUCK.
>
> My TWO cents.
>
> Eric
>
> --- adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > so my kid, who is going to be 13 in dec...
> > has been visiting the pr0n sites lately....on his
> > computer...
> > i just rand sacked his email addy and had to delete
> > him of a few sites that he registered for..
> >
> > he had a few yourtube clips of stripper chicks
> > aswell...oi vei
> >
> > my question to all you smarty interweb software
> > users is...what is the best program to use...he's
> > using a wireless router...can i change the setting
> > on my router for that specific cmputer...or do i
> > need to buy a separate program for his computer...
> >
> > i heard about cybersitter and net nanny...dunno if
> > it works thou...
> >
> > i know he's at age where he is curious, i guess i'm
> > not ready for that...or do u guys think i'm over
> > reacting?
> >
> > -adriana
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Obsoleet ROLL CALL!

I will be there as well of course, though later than I'd like to be, man
it's been so long since the last one...

A

> TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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>> this is just plain unacceptable.
>>
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>> On 8/9/06, Osby Oi Oi Jamz <osby@viberation.com> wrote:
>>> OK.. I know for a fact that i won't be there for most the night..
>>
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Subject: [sfraves] BSP: Love on the Rocks this Friday!

Rock It Science presents:

Love on the Rocks
A fundraiser for the Rock It Science/SFHousemusic.com Love Fest float!

Friday, August 11th
12 AM to ???

SOMA loft location with gorgeous rooftop smoking area
(call 415-412-0406 the day of for details)

Featuring:

Sen - Sei (keys), Origami (bass) & Andrew Phelan (decks)
Special Live Performance!!

Short Bus Kids (Bounce House Recordings)

Eric Sharp (Rock It Science, Zen City, Su Casa)

Lachlan (Rock It Science)

Native Intelligence (Rock It Science, Sugar Lounge)

Please Bring: Your dancing shoes, your friends, and your positive
attitude. See you on the dancefloor!


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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Obsoleet ROLL CALL!

there once was a girl named Alida
who would dance and shuffle her feeta
but  her horrible fate
was dancing too g r a t e
so they found her saturday Obsoleta !

=3DP

-=3Ddave

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> ROLL CALL!
>=20
> My name's Alida. (WERD!)
> Not from Korea. (Say what?!)
> Hope that you'll be there (Fer reals)
> So I can meetcha! (TOUCHE!)
>=20
> Er... in other words, I'll be there with whistles and  more whistles =
on. You=20
> know... the kind that go whoot whoot! just to annoy  the shit out of =
you jaded=20
> ravers. ; )
>=20
> Seriously, I hope that you guys can all come. There's a few of you I =
still =20
> haven't met after all these years and I would love to get the chance =
to connect=20
> with SFR folk, new and old alike. If past SFRP events serve as =
indication,=20
> this  will be a party to remember.
>=20
> See you this Saturday! : D
>=20
> Heart,
> Alida
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High level alert over rave rebirth
By <mailto:krussell@london.newsquest.co.uk>Kate Russell

by RUBY ALI Landowners in Enfield have been warned to keep their property secure in the wake of the re-emergence of the illegal rave scene.

The warning has been issued by Enfield Council which is supporting a nationwide police operation to track and prevent illegal raves across the UK.

Illegal raves had their heyday in the 1980s and 1990s, typifying the drugs and dance culture of the time, where big warehouses would be used to hold illegal all-night parties.

The last illegal rave in Enfield was held in September 2002, when an empty warehouse in Lockfield Avenue was taken over and hundreds of residents were disturbed by the noise which could be heard as far away as Waltham Cross.

It is thought the resurgance in the illegal rave is due to stricter controls on the use of drugs in nightclubs (1). It is also being seen as a reaction to chav (2) culture' that is overtaking the club scene.

Assistant director of the environment Ray Brewer said: "We have not been troubled by raves in the recent past. On the last occasion an industrial site was taken over due to insufficient security.

"We have no specific intelligence but we do advise owners of large sites to check the security of their property and remain vigilant to unusual activity.

"The police and local authority have powers to take enforcement action and prosecution, but prevention is always better than cure."

The rave scene died out after legislation brought in by the Conservative Government in 1994 gave police greater powers of arrest and banned open-air gatherings on land where amplified music was played during the night. The scene was also associated with the drug ecstasy.

5:42pm Wednesday 9th August 2006

http://www.enfieldindependent.co.uk/news/localnews/display.var.871144.0.high_level_alert_over_rave_rebirth.php


My notes:

(1)
Perhaps they are sick of the booze culture and the nauseating music and vibe it generates.

(2)  
Chav (also Chavette (female chav)) is a <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slang>slang term in wide use throughout the <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom>United Kingdom since <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004>2004.
It refers to a <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subculture>subcultural <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotype>stereotype of people fixated on <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fashion>fashions such as flashy "<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bling>bling" jewelery, and genuine or knock-off designer clothing with the beige <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burberry>Burberry pattern (most famously the <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball_cap>baseball cap which has since been discontinued by the company), and such brands as <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adidas>Adidas and <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nike%2C_Inc.>Nike and Lacoste.


MySpace:  http://www.myspace.com/DJApollo 

Tribenet:   <http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k>http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k 
                
House Music 101:  http://livingart.com/raving/articles/housemusic101.htm

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] nrr: interweb babysitter

on a slightly different tangent:

this might seem strange to some, but right around that age my mom did
something to demystify sex:

she bought me some of the most scientifically and graphically explicit
books on sexual functions and the human body.  full color diagrams and
cross sections of the penis, uterus, vagina and all that good stuff.
you remember those books you had as a kid with the little "pull here"
tabs and dials and switches?  these books had that too.  pull the
lever and see the sperm swim into the fallopian tubes!  turn and dial
and watch the color of the testes change!

like any kid, i was curious about sex and any porn i got my hands on
was a godsend.  but i always remembered those books and sex didn't
seem like this strange and mystical thing that was super taboo.

*shrug*


On 8/10/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Adriana,
>
> I agree with Eric, I don't see any need for a 13 year old to be watching
> hard core nrop and without a proper father figure showing how to properly
> treat and respect women this could be a big cause of concern. I say check
> out his history folder (or cache folder if he is savvy enough to clear the
> history folder) and see exactly where he is going, then make a list of the
> domain names. You can then go into your router and ban all the domains (like
> www.whenharrywetsally.com). If you have a linksys router you can access it
> by typing in http://192.168.1.1/ on a connected computer.
> Also, is it possible to place the computer in a easily seen place, like the
> family room? and Limit the time allowed.
>
> I don't let my son use the internet unless I'm in the same room and made a
> firm rule that he must tell me before he does any google searches for
> anything.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
>
> On 8/10/06, Eric Spire <ericspire@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Um, I think about this stuff all the time, as I see
> > billboards and adds for sex any time I move 10 feet in
> > Las Vegas.
> >
> > It is innapropriate for a boy to see porn and sex at
> > his age. If he is to grow up with a normal view of
> > sexual relationships with women as well as a general
> > respect for women, block the porn with whatever
> > resources you can manage. Best of all, talk to him
> > about it, make him face it, make him see how
> > uncomfortable he is with it around you as his mother.
> > My therapist years ago told me that mothers, as mine
> > did, often abruptly lose touch with their sons at age
> > 12 -13, because they don't know how to approach and
> > deal with their emerging sexuality.
> >
> > This being said, I remember all my first sexual
> > experiences, the uncomfortableness of touching a girls
> > "boob," trying to "get down her pants," etc.... I had
> > no idea what I was looking for, what it would feel
> > like, and was often in awe or confused, or over
> > stimulated, etc.... ANd... so was she.
> >
> > Point being, letting your 12 yr old get all the info
> > without going through the experimentation is like
> > handing a kid a speech to text converter and never
> > teaching them to write or spell...
> >
> > Most important... to much porn to a 12 yr old breeds
> > bizarre expectations, dissociative sexual habits, and
> > probably leads to an increased chance of date rape in
> > the future. That being said, there is a HUGE
> > difference between seeing a naked woman in playboy,
> > and watching people FUCK.
> >
> > My TWO cents.
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > --- adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > so my kid, who is going to be 13 in dec...
> > > has been visiting the pr0n sites lately....on his
> > > computer...
> > > i just rand sacked his email addy and had to delete
> > > him of a few sites that he registered for..
> > >
> > > he had a few yourtube clips of stripper chicks
> > > aswell...oi vei
> > >
> > > my question to all you smarty interweb software
> > > users is...what is the best program to use...he's
> > > using a wireless router...can i change the setting
> > > on my router for that specific cmputer...or do i
> > > need to buy a separate program for his computer...
> > >
> > > i heard about cybersitter and net nanny...dunno if
> > > it works thou...
> > >
> > > i know he's at age where he is curious, i guess i'm
> > > not ready for that...or do u guys think i'm over
> > > reacting?
> > >
> > > -adriana
> > >
> > >
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August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] nrr: interweb babysitter

Thats just brought up some funny memories... 

"Where did I come from" and "whats happening to
me"....

Those were the books I was given by mom as the "sex
talk."

My inept father's version of the sex talk...
"Do you have hair in your groin?" and "As you get
older, men need to where deodorant."

The books my mom gave me, along with sneak peaks at
the "joy of sex" were the training I got. I never saw
porn until I was an adult... unless the occasional
peak at playboy and national geographic count.

E




--- Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:

> on a slightly different tangent:
> 
> this might seem strange to some, but right around
> that age my mom did
> something to demystify sex:
> 
> she bought me some of the most scientifically and
> graphically explicit
> books on sexual functions and the human body.  full
> color diagrams and
> cross sections of the penis, uterus, vagina and all
> that good stuff.
> you remember those books you had as a kid with the
> little "pull here"
> tabs and dials and switches?  these books had that
> too.  pull the
> lever and see the sperm swim into the fallopian
> tubes!  turn and dial
> and watch the color of the testes change!
> 
> like any kid, i was curious about sex and any porn i
> got my hands on
> was a godsend.  but i always remembered those books
> and sex didn't
> seem like this strange and mystical thing that was
> super taboo.
> 
> *shrug*
> 
> 
> On 8/10/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Adriana,
> >
> > I agree with Eric, I don't see any need for a 13
> year old to be watching
> > hard core nrop and without a proper father figure
> showing how to properly
> > treat and respect women this could be a big cause
> of concern. I say check
> > out his history folder (or cache folder if he is
> savvy enough to clear the
> > history folder) and see exactly where he is going,
> then make a list of the
> > domain names. You can then go into your router and
> ban all the domains (like
> > www.whenharrywetsally.com). If you have a linksys
> router you can access it
> > by typing in http://192.168.1.1/ on a connected
> computer.
> > Also, is it possible to place the computer in a
> easily seen place, like the
> > family room? and Limit the time allowed.
> >
> > I don't let my son use the internet unless I'm in
> the same room and made a
> > firm rule that he must tell me before he does any
> google searches for
> > anything.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/10/06, Eric Spire <ericspire@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Um, I think about this stuff all the time, as I
> see
> > > billboards and adds for sex any time I move 10
> feet in
> > > Las Vegas.
> > >
> > > It is innapropriate for a boy to see porn and
> sex at
> > > his age. If he is to grow up with a normal view
> of
> > > sexual relationships with women as well as a
> general
> > > respect for women, block the porn with whatever
> > > resources you can manage. Best of all, talk to
> him
> > > about it, make him face it, make him see how
> > > uncomfortable he is with it around you as his
> mother.
> > > My therapist years ago told me that mothers, as
> mine
> > > did, often abruptly lose touch with their sons
> at age
> > > 12 -13, because they don't know how to approach
> and
> > > deal with their emerging sexuality.
> > >
> > > This being said, I remember all my first sexual
> > > experiences, the uncomfortableness of touching a
> girls
> > > "boob," trying to "get down her pants," etc....
> I had
> > > no idea what I was looking for, what it would
> feel
> > > like, and was often in awe or confused, or over
> > > stimulated, etc.... ANd... so was she.
> > >
> > > Point being, letting your 12 yr old get all the
> info
> > > without going through the experimentation is
> like
> > > handing a kid a speech to text converter and
> never
> > > teaching them to write or spell...
> > >
> > > Most important... to much porn to a 12 yr old
> breeds
> > > bizarre expectations, dissociative sexual
> habits, and
> > > probably leads to an increased chance of date
> rape in
> > > the future. That being said, there is a HUGE
> > > difference between seeing a naked woman in
> playboy,
> > > and watching people FUCK.
> > >
> > > My TWO cents.
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
> > > --- adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > so my kid, who is going to be 13 in dec...
> > > > has been visiting the pr0n sites lately....on
> his
> > > > computer...
> > > > i just rand sacked his email addy and had to
> delete
> > > > him of a few sites that he registered for..
> > > >
> > > > he had a few yourtube clips of stripper chicks
> > > > aswell...oi vei
> > > >
> > > > my question to all you smarty interweb
> software
> > > > users is...what is the best program to
> use...he's
> > > > using a wireless router...can i change the
> setting
> > > > on my router for that specific cmputer...or do
> i
> > > > need to buy a separate program for his
> computer...
> > > >
> > > > i heard about cybersitter and net
> nanny...dunno if
> > > > it works thou...
> > > >
> > > > i know he's at age where he is curious, i
> guess i'm
> > > > not ready for that...or do u guys think i'm
> over
> > > > reacting?
> > > >
> > > > -adriana
> > > >
> > > >
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> >
> 
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> and sex didn't
> seem like this strange and mystical thing that was
> super taboo.

PS... I guess my point was less about it being this
mystical strange thing as it was to be an experience
that you should experience firsthand rather than see
how someone else does it first. Like the information
should be given, but the path found by the individual.

E


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Howdy folks! I'm new to this list, and new to San
Francisco. So much new-ness going on it's crazy!

My first E experience was about four months ago. It
was such a mind-blowingly fun experience, and it was
just myself and my girlfriend. Since then we've done
it a couple times, but it's still just been me and
her. I'm curious as to the rave scene, seems like it
would be fun with the right combination of chemicals,
but I'm not sure where a good place to start out is.
And all this talk of parties in Hunter's Point and
people getting shot ... frankly makes me happy to just
stay at home and walk around the city and stuff.

So, any advice?

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a good place to start is within your self. the rave the scene is different things to different people. it is what it is.

Justin Johnson <justinsuperstar@yahoo.com> wrote:  Howdy folks! I'm new to this list, and new to San
Francisco. So much new-ness going on it's crazy!

My first E experience was about four months ago. It
was such a mind-blowingly fun experience, and it was
just myself and my girlfriend. Since then we've done
it a couple times, but it's still just been me and
her. I'm curious as to the rave scene, seems like it
would be fun with the right combination of chemicals,
but I'm not sure where a good place to start out is.
And all this talk of parties in Hunter's Point and
people getting shot ... frankly makes me happy to just
stay at home and walk around the city and stuff.

So, any advice?

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advice:  get out, meet people (in person, that is), help out with  
some events.

if you're looking for chemicals, you should start here:  http:// 
chem.berkeley.edu/
(I hear the program is tough, but it's a good education and will open  
a lot of doors for you as a professional)

if you're looking for what the "rave scene is all about", nobody can  
tell you that. Find out for yourself.

-pxd-








On Aug 11, 2006, at 11:31 AM, Justin Johnson wrote:

> Howdy folks! I'm new to this list, and new to San
> Francisco. So much new-ness going on it's crazy!
>
> My first E experience was about four months ago. It
> was such a mind-blowingly fun experience, and it was
> just myself and my girlfriend. Since then we've done
> it a couple times, but it's still just been me and
> her. I'm curious as to the rave scene, seems like it
> would be fun with the right combination of chemicals,
> but I'm not sure where a good place to start out is.
> And all this talk of parties in Hunter's Point and
> people getting shot ... frankly makes me happy to just
> stay at home and walk around the city and stuff.
>
> So, any advice?
>
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also.. any "hi i'm new here tell me about the drugs" sort of post is  
going to arouse suspicion.

i'm just sayin.

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] nrr: interweb babysitter

My mom bought me that book too!  Haha.  That and "changing bodies, changing lives", which I can reccommend- a very matter-of-fact humanist book for kids entering puberty and wondering about sex.  It helped me tremendously.

-g

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] nrr: interweb babysitter

on a slightly different tangent:

this might seem strange to some, but right around that age my mom did
something to demystify sex:

she bought me some of the most scientifically and graphically explicit
books on sexual functions and the human body.  full color diagrams and
cross sections of the penis, uterus, vagina and all that good stuff.
you remember those books you had as a kid with the little "pull here"
tabs and dials and switches?  these books had that too.  pull the
lever and see the sperm swim into the fallopian tubes!  turn and dial
and watch the color of the testes change!

like any kid, i was curious about sex and any porn i got my hands on
was a godsend.  but i always remembered those books and sex didn't
seem like this strange and mystical thing that was super taboo.

*shrug*


On 8/10/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Adriana,
>
> I agree with Eric, I don't see any need for a 13 year old to be watching
> hard core nrop and without a proper father figure showing how to properly
> treat and respect women this could be a big cause of concern. I say check
> out his history folder (or cache folder if he is savvy enough to clear the
> history folder) and see exactly where he is going, then make a list of the
> domain names. You can then go into your router and ban all the domains (like
> www.whenharrywetsally.com). If you have a linksys router you can access it
> by typing in http://192.168.1.1/ on a connected computer.
> Also, is it possible to place the computer in a easily seen place, like the
> family room? and Limit the time allowed.
>
> I don't let my son use the internet unless I'm in the same room and made a
> firm rule that he must tell me before he does any google searches for
> anything.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
>
> On 8/10/06, Eric Spire <ericspire@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Um, I think about this stuff all the time, as I see
> > billboards and adds for sex any time I move 10 feet in
> > Las Vegas.
> >
> > It is innapropriate for a boy to see porn and sex at
> > his age. If he is to grow up with a normal view of
> > sexual relationships with women as well as a general
> > respect for women, block the porn with whatever
> > resources you can manage. Best of all, talk to him
> > about it, make him face it, make him see how
> > uncomfortable he is with it around you as his mother.
> > My therapist years ago told me that mothers, as mine
> > did, often abruptly lose touch with their sons at age
> > 12 -13, because they don't know how to approach and
> > deal with their emerging sexuality.
> >
> > This being said, I remember all my first sexual
> > experiences, the uncomfortableness of touching a girls
> > "boob," trying to "get down her pants," etc.... I had
> > no idea what I was looking for, what it would feel
> > like, and was often in awe or confused, or over
> > stimulated, etc.... ANd... so was she.
> >
> > Point being, letting your 12 yr old get all the info
> > without going through the experimentation is like
> > handing a kid a speech to text converter and never
> > teaching them to write or spell...
> >
> > Most important... to much porn to a 12 yr old breeds
> > bizarre expectations, dissociative sexual habits, and
> > probably leads to an increased chance of date rape in
> > the future. That being said, there is a HUGE
> > difference between seeing a naked woman in playboy,
> > and watching people FUCK.
> >
> > My TWO cents.
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > --- adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > so my kid, who is going to be 13 in dec...
> > > has been visiting the pr0n sites lately....on his
> > > computer...
> > > i just rand sacked his email addy and had to delete
> > > him of a few sites that he registered for..
> > >
> > > he had a few yourtube clips of stripper chicks
> > > aswell...oi vei
> > >
> > > my question to all you smarty interweb software
> > > users is...what is the best program to use...he's
> > > using a wireless router...can i change the setting
> > > on my router for that specific cmputer...or do i
> > > need to buy a separate program for his computer...
> > >
> > > i heard about cybersitter and net nanny...dunno if
> > > it works thou...
> > >
> > > i know he's at age where he is curious, i guess i'm
> > > not ready for that...or do u guys think i'm over
> > > reacting?
> > >
> > > -adriana
> > >
> > >
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] The rave scene and what it's all about?

I don't want anyone to tell me about drugs, I know
about drugs, I'm just wondering what rave events would
be suggested for someone who's new to the area.



--- "Philip.X.Diaz" <st_indigo@earthlink.net> wrote:

> also.. any "hi i'm new here tell me about the drugs"
> sort of post is  
> going to arouse suspicion.
> 
> i'm just sayin.
> 
> pxd
> 
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Subject: [sfraves] BSP: OBSOLEET - Saturday - DJ Set Times

who needs set times when we all know that everyone will be there all
night long?!?!

10:00pm - 11:30pm Bam vs Marc[0]
11:30pm - 12:45am Justin Hale vs Chris Jackson
12:45am - 02:00am Li vs AndyW
02:00am - 03:15am DJ Aphelion vs Yagi
03:15am - 04:45am The Fingermonsters
04:45am - 06:00am Drag'nfly vs Calamity Jane


First we Connected the Bay, then took you into the depths of an
Egyptian Relic, finishing you off with a climatic Amalgamation. The
next step is Obsolescence.

SFR Planners presents: Obsoleet
Saturday, August 12th 2006

2x4s all night:

Bam vs. Marc(O)
[Evil Breaks] [Otherworld,Ill Behavior]

Drag'nfly vs. Calamity Jane
[Love Tribe,Shaolin,djDragnfly.com] [Wom SF,Ambient Mafia]

AndyW vs. Li
[Viberation, Resource Records, Wow] [Viberation]

FingerMonsters
[Origami, Shazbot, Cubik & Andrew Phelan - Monsta Music]

Yagi vs. Dj Aphelion
[OTC, HCFTP] [Clandestine]

Justin Hale vs. Chris Jackson
[Sticky] [Resource Records]

Superannuated binary walls of visuals by Viberation
4 stacks of steam-powered sound reinforcement by SWAT Sound
Defunct Decor by the SFR-Planners crew

Full bar for the 21+

10pm - 6 am
East Bay location
$10 tickets @ door
All ages.
(866) 240-3064


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Subject: Re: [sfraves] The rave scene and what it's all about?

if you are only going to raves because you want to do drugs and listen
to music, then the party doesn't matter.  only the drugs matter.



On 8/11/06, Justin Johnson <justinsuperstar@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I don't want anyone to tell me about drugs, I know
> about drugs, I'm just wondering what rave events would
> be suggested for someone who's new to the area.
>
>
>
> --- "Philip.X.Diaz" <st_indigo@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > also.. any "hi i'm new here tell me about the drugs"
> > sort of post is
> > going to arouse suspicion.
> >
> > i'm just sayin.
> >
> > pxd
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] The rave scene and what it's all about?

Yeah, I didn't write this clearly enough. I wasn't
asking where to start with the drugs, just asking
where to start with the rave scene. My apologies. Gosh
what a terrible foot to start out on (runs back to
internet cave).

--- Justin Johnson <justinsuperstar@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Howdy folks! I'm new to this list, and new to San
> Francisco. So much new-ness going on it's crazy!
> 
> My first E experience was about four months ago. It
> was such a mind-blowingly fun experience, and it was
> just myself and my girlfriend. Since then we've done
> it a couple times, but it's still just been me and
> her. I'm curious as to the rave scene, seems like it
> would be fun with the right combination of
> chemicals,
> but I'm not sure where a good place to start out is.
> And all this talk of parties in Hunter's Point and
> people getting shot ... frankly makes me happy to
> just
> stay at home and walk around the city and stuff.
> 
> So, any advice?
> 
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Subject: [sfraves] Acid Totem 3yr Anniversary this Saturday-Sunday

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 If you haven't made it out to any of our parties this year, this is the one

you DO NOT want to miss! We'll be rockin' it out with BBQ's and brewski's
while the sun is up from 4pm on Saturday, come nitefall, be prepared for
some serious musical debauchery and hedonism in it's rawest and most
uncontrolled form! Do whatever you need to do to release all that energy
you've been saving all week/month, and the sun will replenish you come
dawn. You are encouraged to bring items/flowers/etc for the alter. This is
a Leave No Trace Event, so pack out whatever you bring in. Feel free to
bring your camping gear + other toys. Directions will be
released the day before the event on the email list. Get ready to get
[head]FUCKED!

Area One:

4pm -   11pm    Ben Haus vs Dave L vs D'andre vs Unityvybe vs Ideal
11p -   12:20a   Adnan
12:20 - 1:40a    Forest Green
1:40 - 3:10a   Carlos
3:10 - 4:40a Jim Hopkins
4:40 - 6:00a Syd Gris
6:00 - 7:30a Tracy (special sunrise set)
7:30 - noon? ? ?   Dave L vs D'andre vs Ben Haus vs Unityvybe

Area Two:

10p - 12:00   Kris Kent vs Thomas Kent
12 - 1am Tribal Souls dj's
1 - 2:00am   Ripple
2 - 4:00am   Tribal Souls
4 - 5:00am    Frogger
5 - 6:00am Kris Kent vs Thomas Kent
6 - 8am     Tribal Souls



All Welcome
Donations are greatly appreciated!!!
20 hours of thumpin' bass
4pm Sat. 8/12 thru Noon Sun. 8/13
1 hour drive from Sf at a beautiful outdoor location
www.acidtotem.net
24hr info: 415 267-6172

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Free Day Party GG Park  7/30
Festival of the Sun 8/12 - 8/13

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Jeez. No wonder we dont get any new blood around here.
Hello and welcome to the scene would have been nice.


-D.

--- Justin Johnson <justinsuperstar@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I don't want anyone to tell me about drugs, I know
> about drugs, I'm just wondering what rave events
> would
> be suggested for someone who's new to the area.
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> > also.. any "hi i'm new here tell me about the
> drugs"
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> > going to arouse suspicion.
> > 
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] The rave scene and what it's all about?

I think to be into that sort of music is one thing,
but 'rave' is a very specific term, with modern
connotations that the experience is made more exciting
via intoxicants. It's like, if you're going to a bar
you're probably going to drink some alcohol. Does that
mean you only love alcohol and the bar isn't about
hanging out with your friends and meeting people as
well?



--- Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:

> if you are only going to raves because you want to
> do drugs and listen
> to music, then the party doesn't matter.  only the
> drugs matter.
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/11/06, Justin Johnson
> <justinsuperstar@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I don't want anyone to tell me about drugs, I know
> > about drugs, I'm just wondering what rave events
> would
> > be suggested for someone who's new to the area.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- "Philip.X.Diaz" <st_indigo@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > also.. any "hi i'm new here tell me about the
> drugs"
> > > sort of post is
> > > going to arouse suspicion.
> > >
> > > i'm just sayin.
> > >
> > > pxd
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] The rave scene and what it's all about?

Tool.

Bam wrote:
> if you are only going to raves because you want to do drugs and listen
> to music, then the party doesn't matter.  only the drugs matter.
>
>
>
> On 8/11/06, Justin Johnson <justinsuperstar@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I don't want anyone to tell me about drugs, I know
>> about drugs, I'm just wondering what rave events would
>> be suggested for someone who's new to the area.
>>
>>
>>
>> --- "Philip.X.Diaz" <st_indigo@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> > also.. any "hi i'm new here tell me about the drugs"
>> > sort of post is
>> > going to arouse suspicion.
>> >
>> > i'm just sayin.
>> >
>> > pxd
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You're right about that. Generally rave = loud repetitive music + 
ectsasy (and about 50 other different chems). Old scruffy rave heads 
like the ones on this list don't like to talk about how important drugs 
are to the scene, but they are indeed very important.

Anyway, I'd recommend checking out groundscore.net and perusing the 
forums there for parties that look interesting. And, basically, just go 
out and meet people until you find a group of people that you like 
hanging out with. The rest of the culture will reveal itself eventually. :-)

Justin Johnson wrote:
> I think to be into that sort of music is one thing,
> but 'rave' is a very specific term, with modern
> connotations that the experience is made more exciting
> via intoxicants. It's like, if you're going to a bar
> you're probably going to drink some alcohol. Does that
> mean you only love alcohol and the bar isn't about
> hanging out with your friends and meeting people as
> well?
>
>
>
> --- Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> if you are only going to raves because you want to
>> do drugs and listen
>> to music, then the party doesn't matter.  only the
>> drugs matter.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/11/06, Justin Johnson
>> <justinsuperstar@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> I don't want anyone to tell me about drugs, I know
>>> about drugs, I'm just wondering what rave events
>>>       
>> would
>>     
>>> be suggested for someone who's new to the area.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- "Philip.X.Diaz" <st_indigo@earthlink.net>
>>>       
>> wrote:
>>     
>>>> also.. any "hi i'm new here tell me about the
>>>>         
>> drugs"
>>     
>>>> sort of post is
>>>> going to arouse suspicion.
>>>>
>>>> i'm just sayin.
>>>>
>>>> pxd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
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>>
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>> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
>> August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
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To me the rave scene is about the music, its about the people. Would a rave be a rave without the music? Would a rave be a rave without the people? Some of yall might feel that its about the drugs and thats cool. Whatever works for you. Iv been partying since 99, Iv been going to partys to celebrate the music. To celebrate the peace, the love, the unity and the respect we have for one another................

Alex Laughlin <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:  You're right about that. Generally rave = loud repetitive music + 
ectsasy (and about 50 other different chems). Old scruffy rave heads 
like the ones on this list don't like to talk about how important drugs 
are to the scene, but they are indeed very important.

Anyway, I'd recommend checking out groundscore.net and perusing the 
forums there for parties that look interesting. And, basically, just go 
out and meet people until you find a group of people that you like 
hanging out with. The rest of the culture will reveal itself eventually. :-)

Justin Johnson wrote:
> I think to be into that sort of music is one thing,
> but 'rave' is a very specific term, with modern
> connotations that the experience is made more exciting
> via intoxicants. It's like, if you're going to a bar
> you're probably going to drink some alcohol. Does that
> mean you only love alcohol and the bar isn't about
> hanging out with your friends and meeting people as
> well?
>
>
>
> --- Bam wrote:
>
> 
>> if you are only going to raves because you want to
>> do drugs and listen
>> to music, then the party doesn't matter. only the
>> drugs matter.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/11/06, Justin Johnson
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't want anyone to tell me about drugs, I know
>>> about drugs, I'm just wondering what rave events
>>> 
>> would
>> 
>>> be suggested for someone who's new to the area.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- "Philip.X.Diaz" 
>>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>> also.. any "hi i'm new here tell me about the
>>>> 
>> drugs"
>> 
>>>> sort of post is
>>>> going to arouse suspicion.
>>>>
>>>> i'm just sayin.
>>>>
>>>> pxd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
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>>
>> DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
>> http://www.evilbreaks.com
>>
>> August 12th: Obsoleet
>> August 16th: Bassdrop @ BOCA
>> August 18th: Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
>> September 23rd: Lovefest and Afterparty
>> October 27th: Aquasky @ Jelly's
>>
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Justin,

I'll state the obvious from everyone's point of view:

You're a cop.

Not only are you a cop, you're a poorly trained cop. You don't show up
on the premier San Francisco rave mailing list, and as your inaugural
post, discuss drugs and their usage. That's both stupid and moronic.

If you aren't a cop, your views of the rave scene have been obviously
skewed by the likes of Paul Van Dyk, Tiesto, and Keoki. There IS a
rave scene without drugs, and there are those who also like doing
drugs (which I personally don't partake in) generally do it behind
closed doors, and don't publicly speak of it, as it is a private event
in their lives.

Please, don't be offended by this. I'm only calling this as I see it.

Regards,

On 8/11/06, Justin Johnson <justinsuperstar@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I think to be into that sort of music is one thing,
> but 'rave' is a very specific term, with modern
> connotations that the experience is made more exciting
> via intoxicants. It's like, if you're going to a bar
> you're probably going to drink some alcohol. Does that
> mean you only love alcohol and the bar isn't about
> hanging out with your friends and meeting people as
> well?
>
>
>
> --- Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > if you are only going to raves because you want to
> > do drugs and listen
> > to music, then the party doesn't matter.  only the
> > drugs matter.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/11/06, Justin Johnson
> > <justinsuperstar@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > I don't want anyone to tell me about drugs, I know
> > > about drugs, I'm just wondering what rave events
> > would
> > > be suggested for someone who's new to the area.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- "Philip.X.Diaz" <st_indigo@earthlink.net>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > also.. any "hi i'm new here tell me about the
> > drugs"
> > > > sort of post is
> > > > going to arouse suspicion.
> > > >
> > > > i'm just sayin.
> > > >
> > > > pxd
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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> >
> > DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
> > http://www.evilbreaks.com
> >
> > August 12th:  Obsoleet
> > August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
> > August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
> > September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
> > October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
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damn John, chill out.

i already said what needed to be said... no need to start name-calling.

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But I flame so much more eloquently than you do.


On 8/11/06, Philip.X.Diaz <st_indigo@earthlink.net> wrote:
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> i already said what needed to be said... no need to start name-calling.
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] The rave scene and what it's all about?

before you posted this, i did a google search for his email address
and he appears to be a normal person who is not a police officer.

:)


On 8/11/06, John Dee <antitux@gmail.com> wrote:
> Justin,
>
> I'll state the obvious from everyone's point of view:
>
> You're a cop.
>
> Not only are you a cop, you're a poorly trained cop. You don't show up
> on the premier San Francisco rave mailing list, and as your inaugural
> post, discuss drugs and their usage. That's both stupid and moronic.
>
> If you aren't a cop, your views of the rave scene have been obviously
> skewed by the likes of Paul Van Dyk, Tiesto, and Keoki. There IS a
> rave scene without drugs, and there are those who also like doing
> drugs (which I personally don't partake in) generally do it behind
> closed doors, and don't publicly speak of it, as it is a private event
> in their lives.
>
> Please, don't be offended by this. I'm only calling this as I see it.
>
> Regards,
>
> On 8/11/06, Justin Johnson <justinsuperstar@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I think to be into that sort of music is one thing,
> > but 'rave' is a very specific term, with modern
> > connotations that the experience is made more exciting
> > via intoxicants. It's like, if you're going to a bar
> > you're probably going to drink some alcohol. Does that
> > mean you only love alcohol and the bar isn't about
> > hanging out with your friends and meeting people as
> > well?
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > if you are only going to raves because you want to
> > > do drugs and listen
> > > to music, then the party doesn't matter.  only the
> > > drugs matter.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/11/06, Justin Johnson
> > > <justinsuperstar@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > I don't want anyone to tell me about drugs, I know
> > > > about drugs, I'm just wondering what rave events
> > > would
> > > > be suggested for someone who's new to the area.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- "Philip.X.Diaz" <st_indigo@earthlink.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > also.. any "hi i'm new here tell me about the
> > > drugs"
> > > > > sort of post is
> > > > > going to arouse suspicion.
> > > > >
> > > > > i'm just sayin.
> > > > >
> > > > > pxd
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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> > > http://www.evilbreaks.com
> > >
> > > August 12th:  Obsoleet
> > > August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
> > > August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
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http://www.evilbreaks.com

August 12th:  Obsoleet
August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
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Subject: [sfraves] ride for 2 to Obsoleet from downtown SF

hi kids,

I'm trying to find a ride to Obsoleet for a couple kids coming from  
downtown SF (Turk & Leavenworth).

If you have room in your car and can help them out, give a shout.   
They just moved here from Minnesota, and don't have a car.

Thanks!
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] The rave scene and what it's all about?

Are you for real?

I'm certain my views are fucked up, because I've never
actually BEEN to a rave. I just moved here from
Orlando, which really doesn't have much happening,
aside from the occasional Disney parade, and was just
interested in meeting some new people.

The first thing that pops into people's mind when a
'rave' is mentioned, is loud techno dance music,
dancing sweaty kids wearing obnoxious neon-colored
clothing, and ecstasy. So I wouldn't consider it so
freakishly out of the ordinary for me to mention such
a thing. I'm not aware of how huge this list is, it
seemed like a nice, tight-knit community that I wanted
to participate in.

You can claim it's deeper from your obviously more
experienced viewpoint. We don't all have that. It's
something I wouldn't mind earning, but if I'm going to
get gangfucked by the old guard, that doesn't sound so
pleasant. 

Where's the friggin' LOVE?



--- John Dee <antitux@gmail.com> wrote:

> Justin,
> 
> I'll state the obvious from everyone's point of
> view:
> 
> You're a cop.
> 
> Not only are you a cop, you're a poorly trained cop.
> You don't show up
> on the premier San Francisco rave mailing list, and
> as your inaugural
> post, discuss drugs and their usage. That's both
> stupid and moronic.
> 
> If you aren't a cop, your views of the rave scene
> have been obviously
> skewed by the likes of Paul Van Dyk, Tiesto, and
> Keoki. There IS a
> rave scene without drugs, and there are those who
> also like doing
> drugs (which I personally don't partake in)
> generally do it behind
> closed doors, and don't publicly speak of it, as it
> is a private event
> in their lives.
> 
> Please, don't be offended by this. I'm only calling
> this as I see it.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> On 8/11/06, Justin Johnson
> <justinsuperstar@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I think to be into that sort of music is one
> thing,
> > but 'rave' is a very specific term, with modern
> > connotations that the experience is made more
> exciting
> > via intoxicants. It's like, if you're going to a
> bar
> > you're probably going to drink some alcohol. Does
> that
> > mean you only love alcohol and the bar isn't about
> > hanging out with your friends and meeting people
> as
> > well?
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > if you are only going to raves because you want
> to
> > > do drugs and listen
> > > to music, then the party doesn't matter.  only
> the
> > > drugs matter.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/11/06, Justin Johnson
> > > <justinsuperstar@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > I don't want anyone to tell me about drugs, I
> know
> > > > about drugs, I'm just wondering what rave
> events
> > > would
> > > > be suggested for someone who's new to the
> area.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- "Philip.X.Diaz" <st_indigo@earthlink.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > also.. any "hi i'm new here tell me about
> the
> > > drugs"
> > > > > sort of post is
> > > > > going to arouse suspicion.
> > > > >
> > > > > i'm just sayin.
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] The rave scene and what it's all about?

It's true, I'm nothing to be feared.

Thank you muchly for that vote of confidence Bam.


--- Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:

> before you posted this, i did a google search for
> his email address
> and he appears to be a normal person who is not a
> police officer.
> 
> :)
> 
> 
> On 8/11/06, John Dee <antitux@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Justin,
> >
> > I'll state the obvious from everyone's point of
> view:
> >
> > You're a cop.
> >
> > Not only are you a cop, you're a poorly trained
> cop. You don't show up
> > on the premier San Francisco rave mailing list,
> and as your inaugural
> > post, discuss drugs and their usage. That's both
> stupid and moronic.
> >
> > If you aren't a cop, your views of the rave scene
> have been obviously
> > skewed by the likes of Paul Van Dyk, Tiesto, and
> Keoki. There IS a
> > rave scene without drugs, and there are those who
> also like doing
> > drugs (which I personally don't partake in)
> generally do it behind
> > closed doors, and don't publicly speak of it, as
> it is a private event
> > in their lives.
> >
> > Please, don't be offended by this. I'm only
> calling this as I see it.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > On 8/11/06, Justin Johnson
> <justinsuperstar@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > I think to be into that sort of music is one
> thing,
> > > but 'rave' is a very specific term, with modern
> > > connotations that the experience is made more
> exciting
> > > via intoxicants. It's like, if you're going to a
> bar
> > > you're probably going to drink some alcohol.
> Does that
> > > mean you only love alcohol and the bar isn't
> about
> > > hanging out with your friends and meeting people
> as
> > > well?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > if you are only going to raves because you
> want to
> > > > do drugs and listen
> > > > to music, then the party doesn't matter.  only
> the
> > > > drugs matter.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 8/11/06, Justin Johnson
> > > > <justinsuperstar@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > I don't want anyone to tell me about drugs,
> I know
> > > > > about drugs, I'm just wondering what rave
> events
> > > > would
> > > > > be suggested for someone who's new to the
> area.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- "Philip.X.Diaz"
> <st_indigo@earthlink.net>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > also.. any "hi i'm new here tell me about
> the
> > > > drugs"
> > > > > > sort of post is
> > > > > > going to arouse suspicion.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i'm just sayin.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > pxd
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] The rave scene and what it's all about?

if you're lookin' for love, don't expect any from john dee.  :-)

sheeit... he doesn't even LIVE here!

pxd




On Aug 11, 2006, at 2:12 PM, Justin Johnson wrote:

> Are you for real?
>
> I'm certain my views are fucked up, because I've never
> actually BEEN to a rave. I just moved here from
> Orlando, which really doesn't have much happening,
> aside from the occasional Disney parade, and was just
> interested in meeting some new people.
>
> The first thing that pops into people's mind when a
> 'rave' is mentioned, is loud techno dance music,
> dancing sweaty kids wearing obnoxious neon-colored
> clothing, and ecstasy. So I wouldn't consider it so
> freakishly out of the ordinary for me to mention such
> a thing. I'm not aware of how huge this list is, it
> seemed like a nice, tight-knit community that I wanted
> to participate in.
>
> You can claim it's deeper from your obviously more
> experienced viewpoint. We don't all have that. It's
> something I wouldn't mind earning, but if I'm going to
> get gangfucked by the old guard, that doesn't sound so
> pleasant.
>
> Where's the friggin' LOVE?
>
>
>
> --- John Dee <antitux@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Justin,
>>
>> I'll state the obvious from everyone's point of
>> view:
>>
>> You're a cop.
>>
>> Not only are you a cop, you're a poorly trained cop.
>> You don't show up
>> on the premier San Francisco rave mailing list, and
>> as your inaugural
>> post, discuss drugs and their usage. That's both
>> stupid and moronic.
>>
>> If you aren't a cop, your views of the rave scene
>> have been obviously
>> skewed by the likes of Paul Van Dyk, Tiesto, and
>> Keoki. There IS a
>> rave scene without drugs, and there are those who
>> also like doing
>> drugs (which I personally don't partake in)
>> generally do it behind
>> closed doors, and don't publicly speak of it, as it
>> is a private event
>> in their lives.
>>
>> Please, don't be offended by this. I'm only calling
>> this as I see it.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> On 8/11/06, Justin Johnson
>> <justinsuperstar@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> I think to be into that sort of music is one
>> thing,
>>> but 'rave' is a very specific term, with modern
>>> connotations that the experience is made more
>> exciting
>>> via intoxicants. It's like, if you're going to a
>> bar
>>> you're probably going to drink some alcohol. Does
>> that
>>> mean you only love alcohol and the bar isn't about
>>> hanging out with your friends and meeting people
>> as
>>> well?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> if you are only going to raves because you want
>> to
>>>> do drugs and listen
>>>> to music, then the party doesn't matter.  only
>> the
>>>> drugs matter.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/11/06, Justin Johnson
>>>> <justinsuperstar@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> I don't want anyone to tell me about drugs, I
>> know
>>>>> about drugs, I'm just wondering what rave
>> events
>>>> would
>>>>> be suggested for someone who's new to the
>> area.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- "Philip.X.Diaz" <st_indigo@earthlink.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> also.. any "hi i'm new here tell me about
>> the
>>>> drugs"
>>>>>> sort of post is
>>>>>> going to arouse suspicion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i'm just sayin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> pxd
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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>>>>
>>>> DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
>>>> http://www.evilbreaks.com
>>>>
>>>> August 12th:  Obsoleet
>>>> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
>>>> August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
>>>> September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
>>>> October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
>>>>
>>>>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] The rave scene and what it's all about?

Wow, I don't think I have seen more vitriol pointed towards someone 
joining a mailing list.
Raving must turn you into a complete dick. That's what I just took away 
from this whole exchange.

-t


John Dee wrote:
> But I flame so much more eloquently than you do.
>
>
> On 8/11/06, Philip.X.Diaz <st_indigo@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> damn John, chill out.
>>
>> i already said what needed to be said... no need to start name-calling.
>>
>> -philip-
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] The rave scene and what it's all about?

I agree. Instead of flaming this person perhaps we
should be educating them? How are we ever going to
move forward within the scene if we dont? No new blood
and the scene does not go on. Perhaps we should be
educating the n00bs instead of scaring them away. If
we don't then they are just left with the
steroetypical definition of a rave instead of what it
really is.


-D.

--- tbSMITH <iamgod@dementim.com> wrote:

> Wow, I don't think I have seen more vitriol pointed
> towards someone 
> joining a mailing list.
> Raving must turn you into a complete dick. That's
> what I just took away 
> from this whole exchange.
> 
> -t
> 
> 
> John Dee wrote:
> > But I flame so much more eloquently than you do.
> >
> >
> > On 8/11/06, Philip.X.Diaz
> <st_indigo@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> damn John, chill out.
> >>
> >> i already said what needed to be said... no need
> to start name-calling.
> >>
> >> -philip-
> >>
> >>
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Since this started with an inquiry about parties...I remember this thread
from 06/27/06 - I hope AndyW doesn't mind me re-posting this, because I
think it sums up partying/raving really well.  The original discussion was
clubs vs undergrounds...




On 6/27/06, AndyW <andy@saturn5.com> wrote:

>
> On Mon, 26 Jun 2006, Apollo wrote:
> -&e->Raves began here when, amongst other irritations, the communal dance
> folks
> -&e->got tired of the clubs.  Raves ended when those involved saw
> opportunities
> -&e->to make bucks...like the clubs.  My partner collected boxes of old
> fliers
> -&e->from late eighties early nineties SF underground gay and mixed
> parties we
> -&e->used to attend.  All of them were hand written and run off on color
> papers.
> -&e->Some were stickers one would paste on one's black motorcycle
> jacket:)  Then
> -&e->came the late nineties.  Four color fliers.  BIG.
>
> Bingo to Apollo for stating the obvious yet not often enough said.
>
> These events are gatherings, where the promoter, the DJ and the attendee
> melted away and all became participants.  Where the rules and societal
> mores gave way to a simpler ethic, one that embraced personal freedoms,
> and a result that at worst was a lame night out, at best was a life
> changing experience.  So many nights were I came with $5 to get in and
> that's all I worried about, walking home in the san francisco morning
> light aware, in love, bulletproof.  Other nights where I brought sound.
> Other nights where I shared music.  Mornings where people would offer to
> carry my records, not because I was a DJ, but because they looked heavy.
> Afterparties where we fell asleep on each other and woke up to the same DJ
> playing Brian Eno 8 hours later.  Bringing fruit to parties and just
> handing it out in the chill room.  The communal wail of one person yelling
> in joy and having everybody else join in, we became rays shooting out of a
> sun nobody could see but all knew was there.  Tangible energy arcing
> across the sky, the future promising if only because it might be 1% of the
> way we felt right then.  We took such good care of each other and some of
> us still do.
>
> The opposite of a proper rave or underground gathering is the VIP club.
> I don't even want to fucking hear about it.  Take your velvet ropes and
> shove them up your ass, and with gusto.  For them to have value it means
> people coming out and being told "no, you're not good enough".  Not what I
> signed up for, not at all.  I don't care what the criteria is... if it's
> who you know, what color your skin is, how much dick you suck or how much
> money you appear to have... it's fucking retarded.  The world needs
> another stuck up club full of hair product guidos and platinum sluts with
> mouths like groupers like I need a hernia.
>
> Take your fucking SUV driving, platinum money clip lying to get laid ass
> and get the fuck out of here.  You're the opposite of getting it, we built
> this in spite of you because we wanted the music, and the dancing and the
> synergy of human energies without all that shit.  You broke rock, you
> broke disco, you break everything you touch, you are dead cities and
> capitalism and face lifts and dishonesty and fear personified.
>
> I want to dance with the ugly people, the poor people, the outsiders, the
> freaks, the nerds, the new kids in town, the people who don't know the
> right people people.  I don't want to enjoy my obviously overpriced bottle
> of what have you in the vip lounge, I want my ass kicked by music, mind
> ripped by intensity, and if I meet some friends for life hell yeah.  I
> prefer big brains to gold chains and I prefer it when the beat is greater
> than the ego.  Make me beg at a velvet rope, search my body for shit that
> is mine, and call me a VIP?  I'm a man who doesn't buy that shit for a
> minute, fuck off.  The only service that shit provides the world is taxing
> the stupid, you're all fucked in the head.
>
> andyw
>
>

On 8/11/06, Philip.X.Diaz <st_indigo@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> if you're lookin' for love, don't expect any from john dee.  :-)
>
> sheeit... he doesn't even LIVE here!
>
> pxd
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 11, 2006, at 2:12 PM, Justin Johnson wrote:
>
> > Are you for real?
> >
> > I'm certain my views are fucked up, because I've never
> > actually BEEN to a rave. I just moved here from
> > Orlando, which really doesn't have much happening,
> > aside from the occasional Disney parade, and was just
> > interested in meeting some new people.
> >
> > The first thing that pops into people's mind when a
> > 'rave' is mentioned, is loud techno dance music,
> > dancing sweaty kids wearing obnoxious neon-colored
> > clothing, and ecstasy. So I wouldn't consider it so
> > freakishly out of the ordinary for me to mention such
> > a thing. I'm not aware of how huge this list is, it
> > seemed like a nice, tight-knit community that I wanted
> > to participate in.
> >
> > You can claim it's deeper from your obviously more
> > experienced viewpoint. We don't all have that. It's
> > something I wouldn't mind earning, but if I'm going to
> > get gangfucked by the old guard, that doesn't sound so
> > pleasant.
> >
> > Where's the friggin' LOVE?
> >
> >
> >
> > --- John Dee <antitux@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Justin,
> >>
> >> I'll state the obvious from everyone's point of
> >> view:
> >>
> >> You're a cop.
> >>
> >> Not only are you a cop, you're a poorly trained cop.
> >> You don't show up
> >> on the premier San Francisco rave mailing list, and
> >> as your inaugural
> >> post, discuss drugs and their usage. That's both
> >> stupid and moronic.
> >>
> >> If you aren't a cop, your views of the rave scene
> >> have been obviously
> >> skewed by the likes of Paul Van Dyk, Tiesto, and
> >> Keoki. There IS a
> >> rave scene without drugs, and there are those who
> >> also like doing
> >> drugs (which I personally don't partake in)
> >> generally do it behind
> >> closed doors, and don't publicly speak of it, as it
> >> is a private event
> >> in their lives.
> >>
> >> Please, don't be offended by this. I'm only calling
> >> this as I see it.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> On 8/11/06, Justin Johnson
> >> <justinsuperstar@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> I think to be into that sort of music is one
> >> thing,
> >>> but 'rave' is a very specific term, with modern
> >>> connotations that the experience is made more
> >> exciting
> >>> via intoxicants. It's like, if you're going to a
> >> bar
> >>> you're probably going to drink some alcohol. Does
> >> that
> >>> mean you only love alcohol and the bar isn't about
> >>> hanging out with your friends and meeting people
> >> as
> >>> well?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> if you are only going to raves because you want
> >> to
> >>>> do drugs and listen
> >>>> to music, then the party doesn't matter.  only
> >> the
> >>>> drugs matter.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 8/11/06, Justin Johnson
> >>>> <justinsuperstar@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>> I don't want anyone to tell me about drugs, I
> >> know
> >>>>> about drugs, I'm just wondering what rave
> >> events
> >>>> would
> >>>>> be suggested for someone who's new to the
> >> area.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- "Philip.X.Diaz" <st_indigo@earthlink.net>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> also.. any "hi i'm new here tell me about
> >> the
> >>>> drugs"
> >>>>>> sort of post is
> >>>>>> going to arouse suspicion.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> i'm just sayin.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> pxd
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
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i have mixed feelings about this.

the guy has never been to a rave.  he's done E with his girlfriend and
enjoyed himself.

now, he wants to go to a rave and do E.

to me, that has very little to do with raving and everything to do with drugs.

ps.  there is plenty of new blood coming into the rave scene every day.


On 8/11/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I agree. Instead of flaming this person perhaps we
> should be educating them? How are we ever going to
> move forward within the scene if we dont? No new blood
> and the scene does not go on. Perhaps we should be
> educating the n00bs instead of scaring them away. If
> we don't then they are just left with the
> steroetypical definition of a rave instead of what it
> really is.
>
>
> -D.
>
> --- tbSMITH <iamgod@dementim.com> wrote:
>
> > Wow, I don't think I have seen more vitriol pointed
> > towards someone
> > joining a mailing list.
> > Raving must turn you into a complete dick. That's
> > what I just took away
> > from this whole exchange.
> >
> > -t
> >
> >
> > John Dee wrote:
> > > But I flame so much more eloquently than you do.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/11/06, Philip.X.Diaz
> > <st_indigo@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >> damn John, chill out.
> > >>
> > >> i already said what needed to be said... no need
> > to start name-calling.
> > >>
> > >> -philip-
> > >>
> > >>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] The rave scene and what it's all about?

Exactly Bam. All the more reason to educate him to
enable him to understand what it is all about. Far to
many people have that misconception about raving, and
it usually stems from the media.

-D.

--- Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:

> i have mixed feelings about this.
> 
> the guy has never been to a rave.  he's done E with
> his girlfriend and
> enjoyed himself.
> 
> now, he wants to go to a rave and do E.
> 
> to me, that has very little to do with raving and
> everything to do with drugs.
> 
> ps.  there is plenty of new blood coming into the
> rave scene every day.
> 
> 
> On 8/11/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I agree. Instead of flaming this person perhaps we
> > should be educating them? How are we ever going to
> > move forward within the scene if we dont? No new
> blood
> > and the scene does not go on. Perhaps we should be
> > educating the n00bs instead of scaring them away.
> If
> > we don't then they are just left with the
> > steroetypical definition of a rave instead of what
> it
> > really is.
> >
> >
> > -D.
> >
> > --- tbSMITH <iamgod@dementim.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Wow, I don't think I have seen more vitriol
> pointed
> > > towards someone
> > > joining a mailing list.
> > > Raving must turn you into a complete dick.
> That's
> > > what I just took away
> > > from this whole exchange.
> > >
> > > -t
> > >
> > >
> > > John Dee wrote:
> > > > But I flame so much more eloquently than you
> do.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 8/11/06, Philip.X.Diaz
> > > <st_indigo@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > >> damn John, chill out.
> > > >>
> > > >> i already said what needed to be said... no
> need
> > > to start name-calling.
> > > >>
> > > >> -philip-
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] The rave scene and what it's all about?

Some policemen have e-mail addresses.

However in this case that seems unlikely: http://www.onetrick.net/contact.htm

Regards,

Peter



----- Original Message ----
From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
To: John Dee <antitux@gmail.com>
Cc: Justin Johnson <justinsuperstar@yahoo.com>; sfraves@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 2:04:44 PM
Subject: Re: [sfraves] The rave scene and what it's all about?

before you posted this, i did a google search for his email address
and he appears to be a normal person who is not a police officer.

:)


On 8/11/06, John Dee <antitux@gmail.com> wrote:
> Justin,
>
> I'll state the obvious from everyone's point of view:
>
> You're a cop.
>
> Not only are you a cop, you're a poorly trained cop. You don't show up
> on the premier San Francisco rave mailing list, and as your inaugural
> post, discuss drugs and their usage. That's both stupid and moronic.
>
> If you aren't a cop, your views of the rave scene have been obviously
> skewed by the likes of Paul Van Dyk, Tiesto, and Keoki. There IS a
> rave scene without drugs, and there are those who also like doing
> drugs (which I personally don't partake in) generally do it behind
> closed doors, and don't publicly speak of it, as it is a private event
> in their lives.
>
> Please, don't be offended by this. I'm only calling this as I see it.
>
> Regards,
>
> On 8/11/06, Justin Johnson <justinsuperstar@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I think to be into that sort of music is one thing,
> > but 'rave' is a very specific term, with modern
> > connotations that the experience is made more exciting
> > via intoxicants. It's like, if you're going to a bar
> > you're probably going to drink some alcohol. Does that
> > mean you only love alcohol and the bar isn't about
> > hanging out with your friends and meeting people as
> > well?
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > if you are only going to raves because you want to
> > > do drugs and listen
> > > to music, then the party doesn't matter.  only the
> > > drugs matter.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/11/06, Justin Johnson
> > > <justinsuperstar@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > I don't want anyone to tell me about drugs, I know
> > > > about drugs, I'm just wondering what rave events
> > > would
> > > > be suggested for someone who's new to the area.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- "Philip.X.Diaz" <st_indigo@earthlink.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > also.. any "hi i'm new here tell me about the
> > > drugs"
> > > > > sort of post is
> > > > > going to arouse suspicion.
> > > > >
> > > > > i'm just sayin.
> > > > >
> > > > > pxd
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
http://www.evilbreaks.com

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August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] The rave scene and what it's all about?

Oh snap!  I think I like the new kid!  I've been feeling pretty bitter and
jaded lately and for me I've always been one who likes going to parties
for the music and the energy it provides so I'll take a different route
with this email since those topics have been covered.

I think we're is misinterpreting Justin here.  He's new, he's done the
drugs, he's sitting at home, he and his girl want to expierience new
things and in a few replies we've made him feel like he shouldn't go out,
he should continue to stay at home and not explore all SF and the Bay Area
has to offer for what we on this list love it for.  Electronic music,
freedom of expression and striving for a better community.

So Justin, as far as electronic music goes, are there already styles you
like?  Does the idea of small parties with a typically close knit group of
people interest you or do you wanna go to huge overdone parties with tons
of international talent, local talent, circus clowns, fireworks and jungle
gyms. Would you feel more comfortable in a dance club or parking your car,
hopping in the back of a shuttle bus with a bunch of people you don't
know, then getting dropped off at some place, tromping through a forest
then find a party in the middle of nowhere.

This list is old as time itself almost, those that have been around for a
long time have come to be wary of anything dealing with open discussion
about drugs due to the bad press the electronic music scene has gotten
because of them.  Not to mention these things are of course watched by law
enforcement due to its longevity and because of how well known it is now.

As far as rave, doesn't everyone on this list call them parties now
because of Justin's description of what the term rave has come to mean? ;)

-Rayn

> I think to be into that sort of music is one thing,
> but 'rave' is a very specific term, with modern
> connotations that the experience is made more exciting
> via intoxicants. It's like, if you're going to a bar
> you're probably going to drink some alcohol. Does that
> mean you only love alcohol and the bar isn't about
> hanging out with your friends and meeting people as
> well?
>
>
>
> --- Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> if you are only going to raves because you want to
>> do drugs and listen
>> to music, then the party doesn't matter.  only the
>> drugs matter.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/11/06, Justin Johnson
>> <justinsuperstar@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > I don't want anyone to tell me about drugs, I know
>> > about drugs, I'm just wondering what rave events
>> would
>> > be suggested for someone who's new to the area.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --- "Philip.X.Diaz" <st_indigo@earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > also.. any "hi i'm new here tell me about the
>> drugs"
>> > > sort of post is
>> > > going to arouse suspicion.
>> > >
>> > > i'm just sayin.
>> > >
>> > > pxd
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
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>> --
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>> < Brandon / DJ Bam >
>>
>> DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
>> http://www.evilbreaks.com
>>
>> August 12th:  Obsoleet
>> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
>> August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
>> September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
>> October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] The rave scene and what it's all about?

I do too show love..

In my own special way :)

I mean, I love you Philip.


On 8/11/06, Philip.X.Diaz <st_indigo@earthlink.net> wrote:
> if you're lookin' for love, don't expect any from john dee.  :-)
>
> sheeit... he doesn't even LIVE here!
>
> pxd
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 11, 2006, at 2:12 PM, Justin Johnson wrote:
>
> > Are you for real?
> >
> > I'm certain my views are fucked up, because I've never
> > actually BEEN to a rave. I just moved here from
> > Orlando, which really doesn't have much happening,
> > aside from the occasional Disney parade, and was just
> > interested in meeting some new people.
> >
> > The first thing that pops into people's mind when a
> > 'rave' is mentioned, is loud techno dance music,
> > dancing sweaty kids wearing obnoxious neon-colored
> > clothing, and ecstasy. So I wouldn't consider it so
> > freakishly out of the ordinary for me to mention such
> > a thing. I'm not aware of how huge this list is, it
> > seemed like a nice, tight-knit community that I wanted
> > to participate in.
> >
> > You can claim it's deeper from your obviously more
> > experienced viewpoint. We don't all have that. It's
> > something I wouldn't mind earning, but if I'm going to
> > get gangfucked by the old guard, that doesn't sound so
> > pleasant.
> >
> > Where's the friggin' LOVE?
> >
> >
> >
> > --- John Dee <antitux@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Justin,
> >>
> >> I'll state the obvious from everyone's point of
> >> view:
> >>
> >> You're a cop.
> >>
> >> Not only are you a cop, you're a poorly trained cop.
> >> You don't show up
> >> on the premier San Francisco rave mailing list, and
> >> as your inaugural
> >> post, discuss drugs and their usage. That's both
> >> stupid and moronic.
> >>
> >> If you aren't a cop, your views of the rave scene
> >> have been obviously
> >> skewed by the likes of Paul Van Dyk, Tiesto, and
> >> Keoki. There IS a
> >> rave scene without drugs, and there are those who
> >> also like doing
> >> drugs (which I personally don't partake in)
> >> generally do it behind
> >> closed doors, and don't publicly speak of it, as it
> >> is a private event
> >> in their lives.
> >>
> >> Please, don't be offended by this. I'm only calling
> >> this as I see it.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> On 8/11/06, Justin Johnson
> >> <justinsuperstar@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> I think to be into that sort of music is one
> >> thing,
> >>> but 'rave' is a very specific term, with modern
> >>> connotations that the experience is made more
> >> exciting
> >>> via intoxicants. It's like, if you're going to a
> >> bar
> >>> you're probably going to drink some alcohol. Does
> >> that
> >>> mean you only love alcohol and the bar isn't about
> >>> hanging out with your friends and meeting people
> >> as
> >>> well?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> if you are only going to raves because you want
> >> to
> >>>> do drugs and listen
> >>>> to music, then the party doesn't matter.  only
> >> the
> >>>> drugs matter.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 8/11/06, Justin Johnson
> >>>> <justinsuperstar@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>> I don't want anyone to tell me about drugs, I
> >> know
> >>>>> about drugs, I'm just wondering what rave
> >> events
> >>>> would
> >>>>> be suggested for someone who's new to the
> >> area.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- "Philip.X.Diaz" <st_indigo@earthlink.net>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> also.. any "hi i'm new here tell me about
> >> the
> >>>> drugs"
> >>>>>> sort of post is
> >>>>>> going to arouse suspicion.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> i'm just sayin.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> pxd
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
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> >>>> --------------------------
> >>>> < Brandon / DJ Bam >
> >>>>
> >>>> DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
> >>>> http://www.evilbreaks.com
> >>>>
> >>>> August 12th:  Obsoleet
> >>>> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
> >>>> August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
> >>>> September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
> >>>> October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] The rave scene and what it's all about?

heh. i love when you delurk. right on. preach on
brotha!

-D.

--- rayn@anubismedia.net wrote:

> Oh snap!  I think I like the new kid!  I've been
> feeling pretty bitter and
> jaded lately and for me I've always been one who
> likes going to parties
> for the music and the energy it provides so I'll
> take a different route
> with this email since those topics have been
> covered.
> 
> I think we're is misinterpreting Justin here.  He's
> new, he's done the
> drugs, he's sitting at home, he and his girl want to
> expierience new
> things and in a few replies we've made him feel like
> he shouldn't go out,
> he should continue to stay at home and not explore
> all SF and the Bay Area
> has to offer for what we on this list love it for. 
> Electronic music,
> freedom of expression and striving for a better
> community.
> 
> So Justin, as far as electronic music goes, are
> there already styles you
> like?  Does the idea of small parties with a
> typically close knit group of
> people interest you or do you wanna go to huge
> overdone parties with tons
> of international talent, local talent, circus
> clowns, fireworks and jungle
> gyms. Would you feel more comfortable in a dance
> club or parking your car,
> hopping in the back of a shuttle bus with a bunch of
> people you don't
> know, then getting dropped off at some place,
> tromping through a forest
> then find a party in the middle of nowhere.
> 
> This list is old as time itself almost, those that
> have been around for a
> long time have come to be wary of anything dealing
> with open discussion
> about drugs due to the bad press the electronic
> music scene has gotten
> because of them.  Not to mention these things are of
> course watched by law
> enforcement due to its longevity and because of how
> well known it is now.
> 
> As far as rave, doesn't everyone on this list call
> them parties now
> because of Justin's description of what the term
> rave has come to mean? ;)
> 
> -Rayn
> 
> > I think to be into that sort of music is one
> thing,
> > but 'rave' is a very specific term, with modern
> > connotations that the experience is made more
> exciting
> > via intoxicants. It's like, if you're going to a
> bar
> > you're probably going to drink some alcohol. Does
> that
> > mean you only love alcohol and the bar isn't about
> > hanging out with your friends and meeting people
> as
> > well?
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> if you are only going to raves because you want
> to
> >> do drugs and listen
> >> to music, then the party doesn't matter.  only
> the
> >> drugs matter.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/11/06, Justin Johnson
> >> <justinsuperstar@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > I don't want anyone to tell me about drugs, I
> know
> >> > about drugs, I'm just wondering what rave
> events
> >> would
> >> > be suggested for someone who's new to the area.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- "Philip.X.Diaz" <st_indigo@earthlink.net>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > also.. any "hi i'm new here tell me about the
> >> drugs"
> >> > > sort of post is
> >> > > going to arouse suspicion.
> >> > >
> >> > > i'm just sayin.
> >> > >
> >> > > pxd
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
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i think this sums it up nicely:

http://www.se30.com/users/grindingbassline/pix/misc/whiney_ravers


-=dave

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> Wow, I don't think I have seen more vitriol pointed towards someone 
> joining a mailing list.
> Raving must turn you into a complete dick. That's what I just took away 
> from this whole exchange.
>
> -t
>
>
> John Dee wrote:
>> But I flame so much more eloquently than you do.
>>
>>
>> On 8/11/06, Philip.X.Diaz <st_indigo@earthlink.net> wrote:
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>>>
>>> i already said what needed to be said... no need to start name-calling.
>>>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] The rave scene and what it's all about?

bahahahaha!!!!

can i get that on a button? or a sticker!

lol

Delia

--- SE/30 <grindingbassline@gmail.com> wrote:

> i think this sums it up nicely:
> 
>
http://www.se30.com/users/grindingbassline/pix/misc/whiney_ravers
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> -=dave
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> > Wow, I don't think I have seen more vitriol
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> > Raving must turn you into a complete dick. That's
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> >>> -philip-
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Subject: [sfraves] AndyW, Chris Jackson and you techno guys

people on Bayraves are asking about Techno and Andy and Chris' website
links to their mixes are BROKEN!

i was gonna post and say "hey, here are some links to some mixes by
Andy and Chris!" but now i can't and these kids will go off and think
that Paul Van Oakendyk and Bad Boy Skribble are techno DJs.

you two are both computer interweb programmer wunderkinds.  fix yer damn sites!

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> So Justin, as far as electronic music goes, are
> there already styles you
> like?  Does the idea of small parties with a

I like the music, but I haven't had a chance to really
become an expert in it. Seems like the kind of thing
that really needs to be experienced with a croud, and
ear-bursting sound systems, so you can really feel the
music rocking through you.

> typically close knit group of
> people interest you or do you wanna go to huge
> overdone parties with tons
> of international talent, local talent, circus
> clowns, fireworks and jungle
> gyms. Would you feel more comfortable in a dance
> club or parking your car,
> hopping in the back of a shuttle bus with a bunch of
> people you don't
> know, then getting dropped off at some place,
> tromping through a forest
> then find a party in the middle of nowhere.

Wow, both those sound like a lot of fun. I find the
problem with a lot of typical dance clubs is they're
full of kind of jocky/fratty douchebags doused in
cologne just looking to have sex with whatever they
can get their hands on. I've been hoping that this
party scene is something that's a little more devoid
of that kind of 'goer.

Just as long as I don't get shot by unruly gangmembers
at some point during the night, that's really my only
requirement.

> long time have come to be wary of anything dealing
> with open discussion
> about drugs due to the bad press the electronic
> music scene has gotten
> because of them.  Not to mention these things are of
> course watched by law

I can certainly understand that! Didn't mean to cause
alarm.

> As far as rave, doesn't everyone on this list call
> them parties now

Parties, gotcha :)

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Subject: RE: [sfraves] AndyW, Chris Jackson and you techno guys

Uh.  I'm in sales.  For sure not a computer interweb programmer wunderkid.
Thanks for the heads up tho.  I have no idea how long my site has been down.
Oh well.  Guess I'll try and get in touch with the host.  LOL!

=)

CJ

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Subject: [sfraves] AndyW, Chris Jackson and you techno guys

people on Bayraves are asking about Techno and Andy and Chris' website
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i was gonna post and say "hey, here are some links to some mixes by
Andy and Chris!" but now i can't and these kids will go off and think
that Paul Van Oakendyk and Bad Boy Skribble are techno DJs.

you two are both computer interweb programmer wunderkinds.  fix yer damn
sites!

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Bayraves = the stupid.

On 8/11/06, Chris Jackson <cjax@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Uh.  I'm in sales.  For sure not a computer interweb programmer wunderkid.
> Thanks for the heads up tho.  I have no idea how long my site has been
> down.
> Oh well.  Guess I'll try and get in touch with the host.  LOL!
>
> =)
>
> CJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bam [mailto:invibe@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 4:14 PM
> To: Starfleet HQ
> Subject: [sfraves] AndyW, Chris Jackson and you techno guys
>
> people on Bayraves are asking about Techno and Andy and Chris' website
> links to their mixes are BROKEN!
>
> i was gonna post and say "hey, here are some links to some mixes by
> Andy and Chris!" but now i can't and these kids will go off and think
> that Paul Van Oakendyk and Bad Boy Skribble are techno DJs.
>
> you two are both computer interweb programmer wunderkinds.  fix yer damn
> sites!
>
> --
> --------------------------
> < Brandon / DJ Bam >
>
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> http://www.evilbreaks.com
>
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> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
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my bad.  i always assume that anyone who listens to techno is an
introverted computer programmer type.

:)

On 8/11/06, Chris Jackson <cjax@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Uh.  I'm in sales.  For sure not a computer interweb programmer wunderkid.
> Thanks for the heads up tho.  I have no idea how long my site has been down.
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>
> =)
>
> CJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
> people on Bayraves are asking about Techno and Andy and Chris' website
> links to their mixes are BROKEN!
>
> i was gonna post and say "hey, here are some links to some mixes by
> Andy and Chris!" but now i can't and these kids will go off and think
> that Paul Van Oakendyk and Bad Boy Skribble are techno DJs.
>
> you two are both computer interweb programmer wunderkinds.  fix yer damn
> sites!
>
> --
> --------------------------
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>
> DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
> http://www.evilbreaks.com
>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Raves are still cool!


On Aug 11, 2006, at 4:20 PM, CHUCK G wrote:

> Yeah, I said it.


Ravers, however, are not cool anymore.

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LOL!!  Bastard.  HEY...i'm playing more oldie breaks tomorrow night!
Plus...you gotta be a salesman to sell the tech recs like I did all those
years!!  

=)

CJ   

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my bad.  i always assume that anyone who listens to techno is an
introverted computer programmer type.

:)

On 8/11/06, Chris Jackson <cjax@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Uh.  I'm in sales.  For sure not a computer interweb programmer wunderkid.
> Thanks for the heads up tho.  I have no idea how long my site has been
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> Oh well.  Guess I'll try and get in touch with the host.  LOL!
>
> =)
>
> CJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [sfraves] AndyW, Chris Jackson and you techno guys
>
> people on Bayraves are asking about Techno and Andy and Chris' website
> links to their mixes are BROKEN!
>
> i was gonna post and say "hey, here are some links to some mixes by
> Andy and Chris!" but now i can't and these kids will go off and think
> that Paul Van Oakendyk and Bad Boy Skribble are techno DJs.
>
> you two are both computer interweb programmer wunderkinds.  fix yer damn
> sites!
>
> --
> --------------------------
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>
> DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
> http://www.evilbreaks.com
>
> August 12th:  Obsoleet
> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
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On Aug 11, 2006, at 4:22 PM, Sean G wrote:

> Bayraves = the stupid.

jesus.  i went off on some kid on BR for saying SFR was a bunch of  
"jaded sceney fools" .  and now this.

quit being a jaded sceney fool, Sean.

that is all.
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Subject: [sfraves] ASPIRE 8 year next weekend

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Raves are still cool!

Philip: I still think you're cool. Does that mean you're not a raver anymore?


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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Raves are still cool!

that's correct.  going to raves (and throwing them) does not a raver  
make.

my idea of a "raver" is someone who is SO into the scene that it's  
just absurd.  Osby, for instance.

philip





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> Philip: I still think you're cool. Does that mean you're not a  
> raver anymore?
>
>
> On 8/11/06, Philip.X.Diaz <st_indigo@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> On Aug 11, 2006, at 4:20 PM, CHUCK G wrote:
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>> Ravers, however, are not cool anymore.
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>> ;-)
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Raves are still cool!

So what does that classify you as? A visual pimp?

On 8/11/06, Philip.X.Diaz <st_indigo@earthlink.net> wrote:
> that's correct.  going to raves (and throwing them) does not a raver
> make.
>
> my idea of a "raver" is someone who is SO into the scene that it's
> just absurd.  Osby, for instance.
>
> philip
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 11, 2006, at 4:47 PM, John Dee wrote:
>
> > Philip: I still think you're cool. Does that mean you're not a
> > raver anymore?
> >
> >
> > On 8/11/06, Philip.X.Diaz <st_indigo@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Aug 11, 2006, at 4:20 PM, CHUCK G wrote:
> >>
> >> > Yeah, I said it.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ravers, however, are not cool anymore.
> >>
> >> ;-)
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] AndyW, Chris Jackson and you techno guys

Send them this....

http://www.djvaritech.net/mixes/MR006_DL.mp3

:D

Bam wrote:

> people on Bayraves are asking about Techno and Andy and Chris' website
> links to their mixes are BROKEN!
>
> i was gonna post and say "hey, here are some links to some mixes by
> Andy and Chris!" but now i can't and these kids will go off and think
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> you two are both computer interweb programmer wunderkinds.  fix yer 
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I'm still trying to track some down. I'm looking for yellow, orange or blue  
strings. Even white might do.
 
Anyone have some they want to donate for a night? Or suggestions on places  
to check?
 
E-mail me privately to keep the list impact to a minimum. Thaaaanks. :  D
 
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Yeah. Don't use that raver word. Ravers for those NEW kids all hooked on the
thizz!! And they're not raves, they're parties!!!

ahem

so when did ravers get so shy about being ravers? ;)


On 8/11/06, Philip.X.Diaz <st_indigo@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> that's correct.  going to raves (and throwing them) does not a raver
> make.
>
> my idea of a "raver" is someone who is SO into the scene that it's
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>
> philip
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 11, 2006, at 4:47 PM, John Dee wrote:
>
> > Philip: I still think you're cool. Does that mean you're not a
> > raver anymore?
> >
> >
> > On 8/11/06, Philip.X.Diaz <st_indigo@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Aug 11, 2006, at 4:20 PM, CHUCK G wrote:
> >>
> >> > Yeah, I said it.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ravers, however, are not cool anymore.
> >>
> >> ;-)
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Goddamnit. I'm so much cooler than them.

Aren't we a bunch of jaded sceney fools? Isn't that how the n00bz ended up
so jaded and sceney? :)

sean


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> jesus.  i went off on some kid on BR for saying SFR was a bunch of
> "jaded sceney fools" .  and now this.
>
> quit being a jaded sceney fool, Sean.
>
> that is all.
> pxd
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Hey I'm a kid just trying to get to a rave. Anyone going to obsoleet from
Santa Rosa thats got a spot?

Would be so awesome. There is no way I can get myself down there... And I
would really like to go to something this weekend, like sosososoosososo bad.

Me needs to rave very badly indeed.

^_^

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Social Networking Site to the Rescue! 

He's on myspace and looks completely "for real" to me. Has blogs about 
apartment hunting, little videos embedded, hundreds of "friends." If cops are 
putting that much time into creating a false identity, they really need to get out 
to the donut shop more and start experiencing life! 

I won't know until I meet this person, but I think he just made a faux pas in 
his eagerness to introduce himself.

Justin -- when you go to parties, smile and introduce yourself, say where 
you're from, and you'll get to know a lot of people in no time at all. 

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: OBSOLEET - Saturday - DJ Set Times

Obsoleet tonight plus Sunset tomorrow?

SWEET!

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On Aug 11, 2006, at 12:05 PM, Bam wrote:

> who needs set times when we all know that everyone will be there all
> night long?!?!
>
> 10:00pm - 11:30pm Bam vs Marc[0]
> 11:30pm - 12:45am Justin Hale vs Chris Jackson
> 12:45am - 02:00am Li vs AndyW
> 02:00am - 03:15am DJ Aphelion vs Yagi
> 03:15am - 04:45am The Fingermonsters
> 04:45am - 06:00am Drag'nfly vs Calamity Jane
>
>
> First we Connected the Bay, then took you into the depths of an
> Egyptian Relic, finishing you off with a climatic Amalgamation. The
> next step is Obsolescence.
>
> SFR Planners presents: Obsoleet
> Saturday, August 12th 2006
>
> 2x4s all night:
>
> Bam vs. Marc(O)
> [Evil Breaks] [Otherworld,Ill Behavior]
>
> Drag'nfly vs. Calamity Jane
> [Love Tribe,Shaolin,djDragnfly.com] [Wom SF,Ambient Mafia]
>
> AndyW vs. Li
> [Viberation, Resource Records, Wow] [Viberation]
>
> FingerMonsters
> [Origami, Shazbot, Cubik & Andrew Phelan - Monsta Music]
>
> Yagi vs. Dj Aphelion
> [OTC, HCFTP] [Clandestine]
>
> Justin Hale vs. Chris Jackson
> [Sticky] [Resource Records]
>
> Superannuated binary walls of visuals by Viberation
> 4 stacks of steam-powered sound reinforcement by SWAT Sound
> Defunct Decor by the SFR-Planners crew
>
> Full bar for the 21+
>
> 10pm - 6 am
> East Bay location
> $10 tickets @ door
> All ages.
> (866) 240-3064
>
>
> -- 
> --------------------------
> < Brandon / DJ Bam >
>
> DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
> http://www.evilbreaks.com
>
> August 12th:  Obsoleet
> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
> August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
> September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
> October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
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All you ever needed to sell those records were some pretty breakdowns and 
a tranceline, gosh, lern2sellout n00b.  Put down the marketing manual and 
harness the power of your shit arpeggiator, rip some samples off 
braveheart or lord of the rings or some shit and Heavy Rollz X-tremE 
trancE SamplEz (pre-edited, just drop em right into Acid or Fruity 
Loops) cd volume 2!

Way to be shit hosers.

Bam... you can get a small helping of techage here:

http://music.cloudfactory.org/deluge/dirty_andy.mp3
That's a proper techno session with NYC's DJ Dirty and yours truly.  
Although DJ Dirty skips out about 15 minutes into it to go mack on some 
beastie at the bar or something.  This is probably one of my favorite 
recorded sets of me actually... if you turn it up loud enough, you can 
hear the dancers cheering through the needle at the quieter bits.  You 
see, there used to be like 5-6 people who thought I was kewl.

Right about the middle, it's full blown, unhyphenated tech bullshit.  Um, 
I miss sets like that.  And I end it with one of my favorite tracks ever 
(hint, it's not "techno" proper) :(

That said, I'll see what Li and I can whip up tonight.  Heheheh.
&eUU

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On Fri, 11 Aug 2006, Chris Jackson wrote:

-&e->LOL!!  Bastard.  HEY...i'm playing more oldie breaks tomorrow night!
-&e->Plus...you gotta be a salesman to sell the tech recs like I did all those
-&e->years!!  
-&e->
-&e->=)
-&e->
-&e->CJ   
-&e->
-&e->-----Original Message-----
-&e->From: Bam [mailto:invibe@gmail.com] 
-&e->Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 4:24 PM
-&e->To: Chris Jackson
-&e->Cc: Starfleet HQ
-&e->Subject: Re: [sfraves] AndyW, Chris Jackson and you techno guys
-&e->
-&e->my bad.  i always assume that anyone who listens to techno is an
-&e->introverted computer programmer type.
-&e->
-&e->:)
-&e->
-&e->On 8/11/06, Chris Jackson <cjax@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
-&e->> Uh.  I'm in sales.  For sure not a computer interweb programmer wunderkid.
-&e->> Thanks for the heads up tho.  I have no idea how long my site has been
-&e->down.
-&e->> Oh well.  Guess I'll try and get in touch with the host.  LOL!
-&e->>
-&e->> =)
-&e->>
-&e->> CJ
-&e->>
-&e->> -----Original Message-----
-&e->> From: Bam [mailto:invibe@gmail.com]
-&e->> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 4:14 PM
-&e->> To: Starfleet HQ
-&e->> Subject: [sfraves] AndyW, Chris Jackson and you techno guys
-&e->>
-&e->> people on Bayraves are asking about Techno and Andy and Chris' website
-&e->> links to their mixes are BROKEN!
-&e->>
-&e->> i was gonna post and say "hey, here are some links to some mixes by
-&e->> Andy and Chris!" but now i can't and these kids will go off and think
-&e->> that Paul Van Oakendyk and Bad Boy Skribble are techno DJs.
-&e->>
-&e->> you two are both computer interweb programmer wunderkinds.  fix yer damn
-&e->> sites!
-&e->>
-&e->> --
-&e->> --------------------------
-&e->> < Brandon / DJ Bam >
-&e->>
-&e->> DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
-&e->> http://www.evilbreaks.com
-&e->>
-&e->> August 12th:  Obsoleet
-&e->> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
-&e->> August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
-&e->> September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
-&e->> October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
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-&e->
-&e->DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
-&e->http://www.evilbreaks.com
-&e->
-&e->August 12th:  Obsoleet
-&e->August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
-&e->August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
-&e->September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
-&e->October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
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By age 13 I had written a war dialer, kept a file of unidentified modems 
locally in an encrypted file that I'd pick off when I was bored, was a 
member on several notorious BBSs, had written 6502 assembler routines so 
my Apple's tape out could record a full compliment of various c-drop tones 
(that I then carried around on a portable cassette tape player in my 
backpack, yay free long distance and phone booths that only cost the first 
nickel) and had copies of the Anarchist's Cookbook and the Army's 
Improvised Field Munitions Manual.

And all in all I had *great* parents.

Your son is getting to the age where it's important to talk to him like a 
young man, not a liability.  His mind is about as powerful as yours now, 
it's just wisdom he lacks.  Oh, and his bloodstream is inundated with with 
a hormone(drug) that has caused more violence and death than religion.  I 
think one of the most vulgar things about our society is the way we treat 
the young and old, sectioning ourselves off into "generations" and 
discarding the wisdom of the old and the energy and alternative viewpoints 
of the young.

If you don't want him seeing that stuff, you will fail.  If you can find a 
way to talk to him about how that industry is all sorts of whack, and how 
women in the real world aren't necessarily into that (most aren't honestly 
into getting choked, fired upon by the milk of 20 businessmen or double 
anal, etc), you might get a better result.  Tell him you don't want to see 
it or find it, and hammer home the real ethics of respect.  Honesty will 
do more for your relationship with him than control.  A 13 year old dude 
is gonna wanna see boobies, welcome to earth.  You don't get to pick who 
he is gonna be, but you can stay with him thru the process of getting 
there.

And yeah, if you try to install all this crap whackware, you'll just teach 
him to cherish porn more, and he'll probably grow up to be a 
sysadmin/network engineer/scary pervert/ghettotech dj.

<3,
andyw

p.s. I don't envy being where you are, can't be easy.  I was a holy 
frikking terror between about 13 to um... still I guess and I am scared to 
death that this is genetic.  In fact, I think I'll go get a vasectomy now.  
C-ya!

andyw - mutorsoundsystem - saturn5.com/andy
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
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On Thu, 10 Aug 2006, adriana wrote:
-&e->so my kid, who is going to be 13 in dec...
-&e->has been visiting the pr0n sites lately....on his computer...
-&e->i just rand sacked his email addy and had to delete him of a few sites that he registered for..
-&e->
-&e->he had a few yourtube clips of stripper chicks aswell...oi vei
-&e->
-&e->my question to all you smarty interweb software users is...what is the best program to use...he's using a wireless router...can i change the setting on my router for that specific cmputer...or do i need to buy a separate program for his computer...
-&e->
-&e->i heard about cybersitter and net nanny...dunno if it works thou...
-&e->
-&e->i know he's at age where he is curious, i guess i'm not ready for that...or do u guys think i'm over reacting?
-&e->
-&e->-adriana
-&e->
-&e-> 		
-&e->---------------------------------
-&e->Do you Yahoo!?
-&e-> Next-gen email? Have it all with the  all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.

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Dear Family,

::searches for stylish dancing attire::

I'm on my way!

Natalie/a

On 8/10/06, SE/30 <grindingbassline@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> there once was a girl named Alida
> who would dance and shuffle her feeta
> but  her horrible fate
> was dancing too g r a t e
> so they found her saturday Obsoleta !
>
> =P
>
> -=dave
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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>
>
> > ROLL CALL!
> >
> > My name's Alida. (WERD!)
> > Not from Korea. (Say what?!)
> > Hope that you'll be there (Fer reals)
> > So I can meetcha! (TOUCHE!)
> >
> > Er... in other words, I'll be there with whistles and  more whistles on.
> You
> > know... the kind that go whoot whoot! just to annoy  the shit out of you
> jaded
> > ravers. ; )
> >
> > Seriously, I hope that you guys can all come. There's a few of you I
> still
> > haven't met after all these years and I would love to get the chance to
> connect
> > with SFR folk, new and old alike. If past SFRP events serve as
> indication,
> > this  will be a party to remember.
> >
> > See you this Saturday! : D
> >
> > Heart,
> > Alida
> >
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Amen to that. You can try all the banning and ska-da-da you want and the
little fucker will still get at his porn. :) I mean, all of us that grew up
with BBSes and the internet were exposed to porn at 12 or 13... and we
turned out fine!!!

- Sean, who remembers wondering who BJ (BJ's pics!!11) was and why he liked
pictures of women huffing cock.


On 8/12/06, AndyW <andy@saturn5.com> wrote:
>
>
> By age 13 I had written a war dialer, kept a file of unidentified modems
> locally in an encrypted file that I'd pick off when I was bored, was a
> member on several notorious BBSs, had written 6502 assembler routines so
> my Apple's tape out could record a full compliment of various c-drop tones
> (that I then carried around on a portable cassette tape player in my
> backpack, yay free long distance and phone booths that only cost the first
> nickel) and had copies of the Anarchist's Cookbook and the Army's
> Improvised Field Munitions Manual.
>
> And all in all I had *great* parents.
>
> Your son is getting to the age where it's important to talk to him like a
> young man, not a liability.  His mind is about as powerful as yours now,
> it's just wisdom he lacks.  Oh, and his bloodstream is inundated with with
> a hormone(drug) that has caused more violence and death than religion.  I
> think one of the most vulgar things about our society is the way we treat
> the young and old, sectioning ourselves off into "generations" and
> discarding the wisdom of the old and the energy and alternative viewpoints
> of the young.
>
> If you don't want him seeing that stuff, you will fail.  If you can find a
> way to talk to him about how that industry is all sorts of whack, and how
> women in the real world aren't necessarily into that (most aren't honestly
> into getting choked, fired upon by the milk of 20 businessmen or double
> anal, etc), you might get a better result.  Tell him you don't want to see
> it or find it, and hammer home the real ethics of respect.  Honesty will
> do more for your relationship with him than control.  A 13 year old dude
> is gonna wanna see boobies, welcome to earth.  You don't get to pick who
> he is gonna be, but you can stay with him thru the process of getting
> there.
>
> And yeah, if you try to install all this crap whackware, you'll just teach
> him to cherish porn more, and he'll probably grow up to be a
> sysadmin/network engineer/scary pervert/ghettotech dj.
>
> <3,
> andyw
>
> p.s. I don't envy being where you are, can't be easy.  I was a holy
> frikking terror between about 13 to um... still I guess and I am scared to
> death that this is genetic.  In fact, I think I'll go get a vasectomy now.
> C-ya!
>
> andyw - mutorsoundsystem - saturn5.com/andy
> \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
> "Nothing real can defeat us.  Nothing unreal exists." - Buckaroo Banzai
>
> On Thu, 10 Aug 2006, adriana wrote:
> -&e->so my kid, who is going to be 13 in dec...
> -&e->has been visiting the pr0n sites lately....on his computer...
> -&e->i just rand sacked his email addy and had to delete him of a few
> sites that he registered for..
> -&e->
> -&e->he had a few yourtube clips of stripper chicks aswell...oi vei
> -&e->
> -&e->my question to all you smarty interweb software users is...what is
> the best program to use...he's using a wireless router...can i change the
> setting on my router for that specific cmputer...or do i need to buy a
> separate program for his computer...
> -&e->
> -&e->i heard about cybersitter and net nanny...dunno if it works thou...
> -&e->
> -&e->i know he's at age where he is curious, i guess i'm not ready for
> that...or do u guys think i'm over reacting?
> -&e->
> -&e->-adriana
> -&e->
> -&e->
> -&e->---------------------------------
> -&e->Do you Yahoo!?
> -&e-> Next-gen email? Have it all with the  all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] The rave scene and what it's all about?

i'm 25, and without having counted, i'll say i've been to 20-30
raves/parties/spiritual gatherings in the bay area in the past year
and a half.

sometimes i spill my guts to strangers, sometimes i say nothing all
night. sometimes i dance, sometimes i sit against the wall. sometimes
i do drugs, sometimes i don't. usually i lose myself in the music,
sometimes i don't. but i always cast off my day-to-day concerns about
mailing the rent check by the 3rd and, am i out of fabric softener? i
really should get more fabric softener.

what these nights (and sunrises) are about, to me, is the energy and
community. on the subway on weekday mornings, for example, everybody
seems insular and disinterested. but at parties--these kinds of
parties--people run around smiling. you can put your hand on anyone's
shoulder and say, "haha, look at all this; this is crazy!" and yeah, i
like when someone with huge pupils tells me something that they never
even felt comfortable thinking about.

i really believe that in these environments, we release some
intangible essence of ourselves. some call it the "vibe". whether i'm
dancing or just sitting in the corner alone, i'm trying to take in
that vibe, that energy and broadcast my own. that's why i go: to
connect.

also--and i'm not being wry when i say this--i like being in a crowd
that's not drunk.

i'm a quiet guy, i spend most of my time alone, but a rave is just
about the only place i feel comfortable in a room full of people. they
are chances to step outside myself and, you know, just fill up a dozen
water bottles, hand them out to strangers and say, "hi, i usually keep
to myself, but..."

- bobby
http://bobbyburgess.net/journal/

On 8/11/06, Justin Johnson <justinsuperstar@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Howdy folks! I'm new to this list, and new to San
> Francisco. So much new-ness going on it's crazy!
>
> My first E experience was about four months ago. It
> was such a mind-blowingly fun experience, and it was
> just myself and my girlfriend. Since then we've done
> it a couple times, but it's still just been me and
> her. I'm curious as to the rave scene, seems like it
> would be fun with the right combination of chemicals,
> but I'm not sure where a good place to start out is.
> And all this talk of parties in Hunter's Point and
> people getting shot ... frankly makes me happy to just
> stay at home and walk around the city and stuff.
>
> So, any advice?
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Subject: [sfraves] Sun Aug. 13 - Golden Gate Park - Tranceportal Day Party

Hi everybody!  We're ready to converge on Golden Gate Park tomorrow from
Noon till 6pm.  The weather looks like it's gonna be 
great, come on down and join us!!!   

Here's the info:

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*** TRANCEPORTAL PRESENTS - A DAYTIME TRANCE GATHERING ***

The Tranceportal.org Crew and special guest DJs invite you to come to a free
outdoor event in Golden Gate Park, San Francisco. We'll be playing hours of
trance on Sunday August 13th, 2006 starting at noon until 6pm. 

This event is fully permitted and in a beautiful outdoor location centrally
located in the city of San Francisco.

*** DONATIONS ***

This is a free party, but we will be taking donations in support of our
friend Josh Wolf. Josh is now being held in a federal prison in order to
coerce him to testify and turn over his unpublished video to a federal grand
jury.

This event is not a protest or a demonstation, but we will be giving 100% of
all donations to help Josh Wolf cover his $15,000 in legal expenses. 

More information on his situation is at:
http://freejosh.pbwiki.com
http://tinyurl.com/ooldh

*** DETAILS ***

Date: Sunday August 13th, 2006
Time: Noon until 6:00pm
Location: Elk Glen Meadow - Golden Gate Park, San Francisco CA 
Info Page: http://www.tranceportal.org/events/events.htm

*** WHAT TO BRING ***

There's plenty of shade and sun in the Elk Glen Meadow. You might want to
bring some chairs or a blanket to spread out on the grass.  There will be a
couple of grills available on site that a few of us are bringing, feel free
to use them. Alcohol is allowed at Elk Glen Meadow. Please help us keep the
space clean and use the provided trash cans.

*** RESTROOMS ***

We will have a single portable toilet on site. Please use it instead of the
bushes. The next closest toilets are a 15 minute walk to the Polo Fields. 

*** LINEUP ***

Noon - 1:00pm Jason Lee [Stargaze]
1:00pm - 2:00pm Ray C [Butterzone / Tranceportal]
2:00pm - 3:00pm Sanyama [Turiya Sounds / Outpost 23]
3:00pm - 4:00pm gEoff ;) [Stargaze]
4:00pm - 6:00pm Addison/Colin/Paul [Tranceportal / Stargaze]

*** DIRECTIONS ***

- Get to Lincoln Way at 25th Ave. in Golden Gate Park - San Francisco
- Go north on 25th Ave.
- Left at the T intersectoin onto Martin Luther King Jr. Drive
- Elk Glen Meadow is on your hand side after a couple hundred feet
- Park anywhere on Martin Luther King Jr. Drive


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Subject: Re: [sfraves] The rave scene and what it's all about?

haha, good memory. yes, that was me, the new guy. my mind was blown
and i just wanted to talk to some people who understood. i remember
you welcomed me warmly.

i also remember looking at the flyers i got from my first party (dots,
2005) and thinking, "10pm to 6am? nobody would stay awake that long.
this is ridiculous!"

some tips:

1) pee before you go inside

2) buy water before you're thirsty

3) have pockets with zippers/buttons

4) bring a pen and paper

5) read about 5-HTP

6) think about your experiences! reflect, integrate, grow, teach

7) do not tell the toll booth operator we are all beings of pure light

justin, send me an email if you want to meet up one weekend.

- bobby
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On Aug 13, 2006, at 3:58 AM, Bobby Burgess wrote:

> 7) do not tell the toll booth operator we are all beings of pure light


hahaah!  that's fuckin classic.


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Thought the venue had a neat clandestine feel to it, with Security Master 
Tenchi at the gate and low lighting outside. Inside, wow, Terry's visuals were 
really pretty. Pretty decorations. That was a very nice setup. I loved the bank 
of 27+ computer monitors in front of the DJs, with flowers set on top of them 
and between them. 

That mean guy Osric was there, scowling at everybody. Grrrr. I did meet some 
nice people, though. I was tired and stayed in one place most of the time, but 
I enjoyed the music and the atmosphere. I enjoyed the set by Marc(o) and Bam 
a lot. 

Who else went? 
JonnyR

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Subject: [sfraves] sunset

Anyone in the east bay need a ride to sunset? Heading out in an hour. 
We're in berkeley.

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Man...
 
Decked out candy kids? Check.
 
Old school gravers? Check.
 
Breaker circle? Check.
 
People groping each other on the chill room couch? Check.
 
Massages from Riz? Check.
 
Larger-than life, day-glo decorations? Check.
 
Friends emerging from the woodworks to shake their booties? Check.
 
Groove moment at the end (thanks for dropping "Heaven Scent" as the last  
track, Shelly!) Check.
 
Osby (on a magic carpet)? Check.
 
....
 
Damn. Good fucking times, guys. Thanks so much for coming out and showing  
your support. 
 
Someone grabbed me at the end to thank me and everyone else for  coordinating 
it, but you know.... I enjoy the SFR parties just as much as  the next 
person. It's for you just as much as it is for me. Shh, don't tell. ;  D
 
So damn good to see that raves, in their true  definition, are still 
thriving. Right the fuck on. *grin*
 
Heart,
Alida

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Obsoleet is the new black.

Thank you Alida :)

 It was nice to meet you.

 That bitchass Riz didn't give me a massage!  Bitchass!

-Phillip
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>
>> Man...
>>
>> Decked out candy kids? Check.
>>
>> Old school gravers? Check.
>>
>> Breaker circle? Check.
>>
>> People groping each other on the chill room couch? Check.
>>
>> Massages from Riz? Check.
>>
>> Larger-than life, day-glo decorations? Check.
>>
>> Friends emerging from the woodworks to shake their booties? Check.
>>
>> Groove moment at the end (thanks for dropping "Heaven Scent" as the last
>> track, Shelly!) Check.
>>
>> Osby (on a magic carpet)? Check.
>>
>> ....
>>
>> Damn. Good fucking times, guys. Thanks so much for coming out and showing
>> your support.
>>
>> Someone grabbed me at the end to thank me and everyone else for
>> coordinating
>> it, but you know.... I enjoy the SFR parties just as much as  the next
>> person. It's for you just as much as it is for me. Shh, don't tell. ;  D
>>
>> So damn good to see that raves, in their true  definition, are still
>> thriving. Right the fuck on. *grin*
>>
>> Heart,
>> Alida
>>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] ride for 2 to Obsoleet from downtown SF

Yes!

Thank you Joe for bringing the SUPER RAVERS! :)

Oh man, and they were cool SUPER RAVERS, too.  


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> sorted.
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> thanks Joe!  :-)
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Subject: [sfraves] OBSOLEET lastnight

WOW... ok.. I just wanna say.. WOW... so much fun!!!  No.. not fun... It
really has to of been 1 of the mondo fuckin' Hella Dope Groovy Bad Ass
Hello 2day Awesome Raddest nights I've had in a looooong time... I will
type a full review later on.. but just wanted to say.. HELLO 2DAY.. Loved
Obsoleet, Love U SFR, & man... Mondo Loved it!

Oh yeah.. Osric Hates... LOLOLMAO.. Goodbye 2morrow (Sorry if i was mean
to alota y'all, but it was him, not me ;)

Will do a full review more when i slept a lil' more & eat something... my
brain is still kinda hmmm right now... actually.. i'm gonna watch this TNT
Original Movie in a bit & my Sunday shows, but will get back to this :) 
WOW!
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Take Care <3
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Subject: [sfraves] Obsoleet - lost compact flash card

for those of you that went to Obsoleet on Saturday night, did anyone
happen to find a compact flash card anywhere inside or near the venue?

blue card, 256mb.

if anyone found one, please contact me!

-- 
--------------------------
< Brandon / DJ Bam >

DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
http://www.evilbreaks.com

August 12th:  Obsoleet
August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] sunset

tally ho ?

6 !    ...a veritable garden :)

-=3Ddave

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> Anyone in the east bay need a ride to sunset? Heading out in an hour.=20
> We're in berkeley.
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] The rave scene and what it's all about?

let's break this down...      l o g i c a l l y...

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> Justin,
>=20
> I'll state the obvious from everyone's point of view:
>=20
> You're a cop.

unwaivering statement.

> If you aren't a cop...

waivering.

logic is g r a t e !  :)

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] sunset

You thought this was going to be a 100m dash? Hurdles bitch!

On 8/13/06, SE/30 <grindingbassline@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Love you Osby<3 Thanks for being my partner in crime
these past 4 years;)


*huggles*

Delia

--- Osby Oi Oi Jamz <osby@viberation.com> wrote:

> WOW... ok.. I just wanna say.. WOW... so much fun!!!
>  No.. not fun... It
> really has to of been 1 of the mondo fuckin' Hella
> Dope Groovy Bad Ass
> Hello 2day Awesome Raddest nights I've had in a
> looooong time... I will
> type a full review later on.. but just wanted to
> say.. HELLO 2DAY.. Loved
> Obsoleet, Love U SFR, & man... Mondo Loved it!
> 
> Oh yeah.. Osric Hates... LOLOLMAO.. Goodbye 2morrow
> (Sorry if i was mean
> to alota y'all, but it was him, not me ;)
> 
> Will do a full review more when i slept a lil' more
> & eat something... my
> brain is still kinda hmmm right now... actually..
> i'm gonna watch this TNT
> Original Movie in a bit & my Sunday shows, but will
> get back to this :) 
> WOW!
> -- 
> Take Care <3
> Peace=->Jus' Me =-> O§bY {8O)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] OBSOLEET - who went, how'd you like it, etc? 

Sitting here at work this morning, still groggy from
Saturday nights events I just can't stop smiling.

I want to thank each and everyone of the people who
attended. Without you there would have been no party,
and there would have been no great vibe. Thanks to the
people who hung out with me and made me smile and
laugh all night. You guys made my party.

Thanks to Scott Hampton for going to that punk party
down the street and promoting with me. :D And thanks
to Tina, after we found out it was the wrong party,
driving us to the club down the street hehe. You guys
definitely made it fun!

Thanks to SE/30 for zooming me back to the bart
station Sunday morning! LOL Crazy Mofo!!!!

Thank you Dragn'fly and Terri for remiscing with me
about the old days in Sac. LOL So good to see you guys
there. You have been there through my whole raving
"career", and I love you guys<3

And last but not least, thanks to all the old heads
who made it out. Seeing you again is like being
reunited with family, and I love you all.

This party has made me feel alive inside again. I
haven't felt this way in a long time. It was magical.
I'm so happy I feel satisfied with the scene again.
Its so addicting and great. I'm still totally high off
of it. Yay for raving! I love you guys!

FUCKING PLUR!!!!!

-Delia<3



--- JonnyR@aol.com wrote:

> Thought the venue had a neat clandestine feel to it,
> with Security Master 
> Tenchi at the gate and low lighting outside. Inside,
> wow, Terry's visuals were 
> really pretty. Pretty decorations. That was a very
> nice setup. I loved the bank 
> of 27+ computer monitors in front of the DJs, with
> flowers set on top of them 
> and between them. 
> 
> That mean guy Osric was there, scowling at
> everybody. Grrrr. I did meet some 
> nice people, though. I was tired and stayed in one
> place most of the time, but 
> I enjoyed the music and the atmosphere. I enjoyed
> the set by Marc(o) and Bam 
> a lot. 
> 
> Who else went? 
> JonnyR
> 


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Subject: [sfraves] Obsoleet - whew! (and photos)

i have been a part of many, many events.  i think with evil breaks
alone, i've thrown nearly 20 events in the past 2 years or so (jesus,
that's kinda scary).

but this was one of the prouder moments i've had.  this was a class
act crew and a spot on party.  i mean rave.   it was a rave god
damnit.

i probably said this when i was drunk and babbling, but to chris jax,
justin hale, andyw and li...you guys are my vinyl slaying heros.  that
was some serious choonage you done thrown down.

and now, photos from veanne:

http://mylai.com/seered/morphis/obsoleet/index.html


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August 12th:  Obsoleet
August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
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Bahahahahaha!!! Thats right! Osby was on the fucking
visuals that was a trip LOL fuck yes good job Terry!

Tell Veanne beautiful pics and thank you:)

-D.

--- Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:

> i have been a part of many, many events.  i think
> with evil breaks
> alone, i've thrown nearly 20 events in the past 2
> years or so (jesus,
> that's kinda scary).
> 
> but this was one of the prouder moments i've had. 
> this was a class
> act crew and a spot on party.  i mean rave.   it was
> a rave god
> damnit.
> 
> i probably said this when i was drunk and babbling,
> but to chris jax,
> justin hale, andyw and li...you guys are my vinyl
> slaying heros.  that
> was some serious choonage you done thrown down.
> 
> and now, photos from veanne:
> 
> http://mylai.com/seered/morphis/obsoleet/index.html
> 
> 
> -- 
> --------------------------
> < Brandon / DJ Bam >
> 
> DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
> http://www.evilbreaks.com
> 
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owie.  i hurt today.

... but sunset was g r a t e !!!

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Subject: RE: [sfraves] Obsoleet - whew! (and photos)

It was my pleasure to tag with you again Brandon (we always seem to play 
some rad shit together), and an even bigger pleasure to have played for the 
SFRP folks. They all did an OUTSTANDING job with this party. I'm super 
impressed with how quickly they put togetehr the quality party that 
happened. Sick.

My hat is off...



>From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
>To: "Starfleet HQ" <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: [sfraves] Obsoleet - whew! (and photos)
>Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 09:27:35 -0700
>
>i have been a part of many, many events.  i think with evil breaks
>alone, i've thrown nearly 20 events in the past 2 years or so (jesus,
>that's kinda scary).
>
>but this was one of the prouder moments i've had.  this was a class
>act crew and a spot on party.  i mean rave.   it was a rave god
>damnit.
>
>i probably said this when i was drunk and babbling, but to chris jax,
>justin hale, andyw and li...you guys are my vinyl slaying heros.  that
>was some serious choonage you done thrown down.
>
>and now, photos from veanne:
>
>http://mylai.com/seered/morphis/obsoleet/index.html
>
>
>--
>--------------------------
>< Brandon / DJ Bam >
>
>DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
>http://www.evilbreaks.com
>
>August 12th:  Obsoleet
>August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
>August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
>September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
>October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
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Subject: [sfraves] BSP: Mighty Breaks w/ the Autobots - Friday night!

Mighty Breaks
Friday, August 18th
Mighty (119 Utah st)
$5 presales, $10 door
21+ w/ID

Get Your Presales here!!
http://www.groovetickets.com/ordersystem/Groove/eventviewqb.asp?AffilID=93&EventsID=24242&PGname=Mighty+Presents


AAAWWWW YEEAAAHH!!!! Evil Breaks is taking over Mighty Breaks one more
time, and this time we're doing it with those beautiful Angels Of
Bass, and We've got the bass heavy Autobots to warp your little minds
with sound.


the Autobots (Broke/UK)

The Autobots, who were conceived during a crazy acid flashback moment
in the year 2323, are set to travel back in time to California 2006,
ready to embrace their star spangled cousins, in their only west coast
dates this year.
Still buzzing from winning the "Breakthru Label" award at the
prestigious Breakspoll awards in London, they have been working
relentlessly to maintain the quality sounds that have become
synonymous with their successful "BROKE" imprint!
Be sure not to miss out on the action and make sure you're there to
check the heaviest breaks, beats and basslines that you'll hear
anywhere on the planet this year!


Evil Breaks:

Aaron Jae
Bam
M.O.D.
Athena


Angels Of Bass

Tamo
Via Jay
J9
Jess Stockton


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Subject: [sfraves] Goodbye Tomorrow... OK.. WOW.. Obsoleet!!! :)

All the music that night... FUCKIN YUMMY... my fave sets were Candy Andy &
(lost hella weight) Li & (OMG, this Rave is so CooL) Yagi & Rick :) 
Well... I Loved all the Music... 1st time i heard FingerMonsters.. maybe
2nd time... but man.. they were fuickin' Sick!!  I mean.. hmmm.. it
hard... like Chris & Justin were sick... Chris spun alota tracks for me
that i asked him 2 bring or stuff he knew i'd dig .. so that was fun (fuck
You Christmas Jackson (oops.. that was Osric, not me)... Marco & Bamdon
like Wow.. what a perfect opening to a party IMO :)  Then Dina & Shelly
clopsing the party w/ they're yummy multi genre Yummy Yumminess! :)  OH
Andy.. Thanks 4 the Acid Trance song @ the end.. I couldn't be more
responsive to you when u told me that 'cause i wasn't me... u know that!
:P

The night overall.. WOW.. like i mean.. i'm still fuckin' After Glowin
High from Sat night still...   I mean.. everything was Perfect!!  I
mean... w/ Family Gahterings so far & few these nights, I've so totally
mondo hella missed it... so it was Perferct seein' every1 who was there &
seein' how Dope it was :) I mean.. really man.. it's always like another
when these go down & YAAAY! :)

So as promised, Osric made his appearance... OK.. yeah.. he hates you all
He kinda left earlier than planned 'cause people missed me &/or were
worried that something was like wrong w/ me... so I made him leave early..
oh yeah... I didn't get to take pictures of every1 i wanted to but i got
some :)

BUt I Love U! :)  YAAAY... just ya know... so Dope!  I Love U SFR!!!  It
was Dope meeting alot y'all :)

The vibe was perfect.. well... there may have been an incident or 2 w/
that Drunk BO dude who was tryin' to make out w/ every1 on the dance
floor... then the neighbor who complained.. then that cop who like driove
by during my gate shift... scary shit.. but we survived & went on as
planned!

Fuck man.. I got this mondo afterglow right now.. LOLOLOLMAO... Thanks
PLanners for a wonderful night!!! :)  There's alota people who are anxious
for another one to come! ;)

Pictures here:
http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l188/YummyBeats/OBSOLEET%208-12-2006/


-- 
Take Care
Peace=->Jus' Me =-> O§bY {8O)





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Subject: [sfraves] bsp: Sat.Aug.19 [KONTROL] presents Brian Aneurysm (Spectral.PokerFlat:London)

Saturday, August 19

[ K O N T R O L ]

minimal techno + avant house
every 3rd Saturday at Rx Gallery


featuring from London in his SF debut:


BRIAN ANEURYSM   (aka EchoPilot)

iron box . spectral . poker flat . traum . sub-static
morris audio . immigrant . triebstoff . tic tac toe

Raised in Vienna and schooled in the ways of quality techno in Dallas
in the late 90's, Bernhard Pucher has been DJing and producing for
some of the world's most respected labels (including his own Iron Box
Music) for nearly a decade. These days he lives in London and, when
not performing throughout the world, creates electro/industrial-tinged
tracks as Confutatis, moody minimal techno as EchoPilot, and
deliciously sinister dancefloor tech-house as Brian Aneurysm. Catch
his unique style in this SF debut performance.  www.briananeurysm.com


plus special guest just added!


JASON SHORT  (aka DJ Sattva)

funkycozy . COTK . auralism records

Recent Miami transplant Jason Short (formerly known as DJ Sattva)
caught our attention last year when we heard some of his outstanding
DJ mixes.  His heady, deep, and dirty blend of minimal and tech-house
has landed him recent slots opening for Matthew Dear and DJ Traxx, as
well as a permanent spot on the always-solid FunkyCozy roster, the
collective that's brought SF the likes of Damian Lazarus, Pier Bucci,
Matt Tolfrey and many more.  www.funkycozy.com


with [KONTROL] residents:

ALLAND BYALLO  ( liebe*detail . kvadrat produkt . mo's ferry )
SAMMY D  ( classic . dirtybird . utensil )
CRAIG KUNA   ( concept sf . esdjco )


Rx Gallery art exhibition:  Uplifting Vengeance 2006 World Tour

The art this month is INTENSE!  Worth the price of admission alone.

Check out a sneak peek here:
http://www.rxgallery.com/images/artistworks/skinner.jpg

________________________________________________

Rx Gallery
132 Eddy @ Mason, SF / 415.474.7973
9pm-2am / 21+ / $10
________________________________________________


Check our website for full bios, pics and lots FREE music!
http://www.kontrolsf.com

[KONTROL] on MySpace:
http://www.myspace.com/kontrolsf

View the flyer here:
http://www.kontrolsf.com/K15F.jpg
http://www.kontrolsf.com/K15B.jpg

________________________________________________


==== BIOGRAPHY ====

Bernhard Pucher has been producing electronic music for almost a
decade. He started buying records in '96 and ended up getting into
production within the same year. Inspired by the local dance
community, he started working on his craft in his home town of Vienna,
Austria.

In 1998, he moved to Dallas, Texas where he experienced a completely
new environment for electronic music. He met a lot of people who were
not just into dance, but also into more experimental forms of
electronica, including down tempo, industrial, breaks, and hard
techno. This new environment shaped his style, and with the help of
his friend Stefan Anion, he started getting into playing live as well.

But by 2000, a drastic shift happened. He started teaming up with
mutual techno lover Eric Estornel (aka Maetrik, Mariel Ito) who then
introduced him to a form of music he had not properly experienced
until then: Minimal and Electro. That influenced his musical style so
much that by 2001 he started his own label IRON BOX MUSIC. With his
background in industrial and heavy metal, his minimal sound started to
take shape in its own way.

In 2005, his journey brought him to London, by then with many
releases, remixes and appearances under his belt on labels like Ai
Records, Sub-Static, Spectral, Traum, Morris Audio, Ware, Onitor,
Poker Flat, Tangent Beats, and of course his own label, Iron Box
Music.


==== LINKS ====

Website:
http://www.briananeurysm.com

Complete Discography @ Discogs:
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Brian+Aneurysm

Interview:
http://www.inthemix.com.au/features/16642/


==== AUDIO ====

EchoPilot - Emptiness (...a KONTROL favorite!)
http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/EchoPilot_-_Emptiness.mp3

Brian Aneurysm - Iron Box Sessions #13 (DJ set)
http://www.ironboxmusic.com/audio/brian_aneurysm_IBS13.mp3


==== REVIEWS ====

Brian Aneurysm - Succubus - Sub-Static

Sub Static return with humorously named Brian Aneurysm who drops 4
tracks of straight up techno hijinks for the heads. Brian hails from
Texas - past releases have been on his own, so hot it hurts, Iron Box
techouse label, as well as Poker Flat and Ware. After his venomously
brilliant double ep "Amplified" (sub static #28), the Texan has now
upgraded his sharp-edged techno funk wrecks to an ugly assed nasty
jacker on the title cut, which doesn't even have to be played
backwards to spread its seductive poison. Diabolic stuff, and great
material for the more darkside inclined clubsound. Damaging.

Echopilot - Fragile EP - Morris Audio CitySport Edition

Produced by Brian Pucher (aka Brian Aneurysm) under his Echopilot
guise, this is akin to taking one part minimal Richie Hawtin and one
part quirky Derrick Carter and one part silky Timewriter; and blending
them together into a deep, minimal concoction.  Simple rhythms,
eclectic (and sometimes disturbing) vocal samples, jazzy stabs and a
ton of atmosphere come together to take you on a journey through the
mind of a mad scientist. This is about as funky and tricked out as
anything you are likely to hear, and one of the best productions of
the year to this point. Exquisite Stuff.

Brian Aneurysm - The End of Logic - Iron Box Music

Bernard Pucher comes back under his alias Brian Aneurysm, opening the
year harder than ever before with a minimal techno stomper. He is
known for his dark and twisted minimal, but on this record, he
combines that with his love for good old techno, and creates an
energy-laden EP called THE END OF LOGIC. The original is distorted,
thick and crunchy with a twisted vocal ...you know, the kind we've
come to love from Brian Aneurysm. The B-Side offers 2dollarEgg-style
thump tracks that combine great production with minimal flavour
resulting in dancefloor mania.

__________________________________________

Upcoming guests:

September 16 : ALEX SMOKE ( Soma . Vakant : Glasgow )
October 21 : AKUFEN ( Perlon . Mutek_Rec : Montreal )

http://www.kontrolsf.com

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Subject: [sfraves] Re: ....and you techno guys

 >my bad.  i always assume that anyone who listens to techno is an
introverted computer programmer type.

So what.... ;P

http://www.egregious.net/media/
for a bunch of sets over the years...  Recommended: The EGR 8 Year set.. 
This is the real stuff..

I also drop the minimal & electrotech; though I like those areas at times 
it seems they are the extent to which most Bay Area peeps can handle... oh 
does it go further than that!

Vegas / Defcon this year was really fun...  Hopefully I'll get the 
recording back soon. Got some of the best DJ photos yet...  And got some 
interest from folks all over the place regarding techno and the surround 
stuff I'm into..
Some picts here:
http://www.egregious.net/events/2006/defcon14/

For a nice reprieve... Do check out Soma-Tech II, a free underground in 
downtown SF Sat / August 19th. I'll be dropping some tasty new 
industrial-techno roughly 12:30am to 1:30am...
http://www.egregious.net/events/2006/somatech2/

Best,
--Mike

Egregious
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This is from my crew-mate Evinrude - to which I give a resounding AMEN!!!:

Thanks to everyone who came out last week for our premiere! I think we had 
over 100 people through the door, and it was wacky, crazy good times as 
expected. Thanks also to all the DJs - y'all rocked it.

This week is Marc(O)'s big first night running the show, and he's bringing 
out some of his crew to tear it up for ya:

Kris Kent
Thomas Kent
Hyjinx
Marc(O)

We hope you can make it!


Wednesday, August 16th
CROOKED
Nickie's BBQ
460 Haight St. @ Fillmore, SF
10pm-2am, $3, 21+ with ID

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yeah, i live in the sunset--out in "the avenues". though some debate
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I hope the hell I live in SF "proper" out here on Ocean Beach.  Otherwise the thousands of dollars in property taxes I pay each year to the alleged SF tax assessor (who just raised the assessment) must be going somewhere improper ;-)


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Hey Kids,
Yes! Yet another night at Nickie's!


sUB:vERSION

"Take a trip on the Future's Ancient Soulship..."

Tech/House/Electro/Organic/Glitch/Breaks/Dubstep/Electro/FutureRetro

Tuesday, August 14th 2006

9p -2a


Blue Rythmic Night

&

Doctor Dischord

@ Nickie's BBQ
460 Haight St.
(Between Webster & Fillmore)

$5, 21+

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Subject: [sfraves] y o o t u b e . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZHdjqsSSa_A&NR

bob barker is g r a t e !

-=3Ddave

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> Sitting here at work this morning, still groggy from
> Saturday nights events I just can't stop smiling.
>=20
> I want to thank each and everyone of the people who
> attended. Without you there would have been no party,
> and there would have been no great vibe. Thanks to the
> people who hung out with me and made me smile and
> laugh all night. You guys made my party.
>=20
> Thanks to Scott Hampton for going to that punk party
> down the street and promoting with me. :D And thanks
> to Tina, after we found out it was the wrong party,
> driving us to the club down the street hehe. You guys
> definitely made it fun!
>=20
> Thanks to SE/30 for zooming me back to the bart
> station Sunday morning! LOL Crazy Mofo!!!!
>=20
> Thank you Dragn'fly and Terri for remiscing with me
> about the old days in Sac. LOL So good to see you guys
> there. You have been there through my whole raving
> "career", and I love you guys<3
>=20
> And last but not least, thanks to all the old heads
> who made it out. Seeing you again is like being
> reunited with family, and I love you all.
>=20
> This party has made me feel alive inside again. I
> haven't felt this way in a long time. It was magical.
> I'm so happy I feel satisfied with the scene again.
> Its so addicting and great. I'm still totally high off
> of it. Yay for raving! I love you guys!
>=20
> FUCKING PLUR!!!!!
>=20
> -Delia<3
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --- JonnyR@aol.com wrote:
>=20
>> Thought the venue had a neat clandestine feel to it,
>> with Security Master=20
>> Tenchi at the gate and low lighting outside. Inside,
>> wow, Terry's visuals were=20
>> really pretty. Pretty decorations. That was a very
>> nice setup. I loved the bank=20
>> of 27+ computer monitors in front of the DJs, with
>> flowers set on top of them=20
>> and between them.=20
>>=20
>> That mean guy Osric was there, scowling at
>> everybody. Grrrr. I did meet some=20
>> nice people, though. I was tired and stayed in one
>> place most of the time, but=20
>> I enjoyed the music and the atmosphere. I enjoyed
>> the set by Marc(o) and Bam=20
>> a lot.=20
>>=20
>> Who else went?=20
>> JonnyR
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> a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and packing my bongloads!
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] The rave scene and what it's all about?

Another Sunset resident here...

I live over near Albertson's on Sloat.

Its definitely San Francisco.

Peter

P.S. Ever been to Just Wonton on Vicente?  Awesome noodles.


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At 10:37 PM 8/14/2006, Bobby Burgess wrote:
>>Cool! Are you in the city proper or outside of SF?
>>
>>~j
>
>yeah, i live in the sunset--out in "the avenues". though some debate
>if this is sf proper.
>
>- bobby
>

I hope the hell I live in SF "proper" out here on Ocean Beach.  Otherwise the thousands of dollars in property taxes I pay each year to the alleged SF tax assessor (who just raised the assessment) must be going somewhere improper ;-)


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Subject: [sfraves] chicago raves?

Hey Hey,

I'm going to be in the Chicago area soon and I was
wondering if any of you knew any resources as to where
I could find a good party while I'm there. I tried to
subscribe to midwest raves through hyperreal but no
go. Any suggestions as to sites to check out for
events, or venues?

-Delia

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Whatever you do, hit up the Green Dolphin Room on a Monday night for the
longest-running deep house night in the city. Diz rocked it when I was there
last week.

Also, The Note has good music on Thursdays, and Smartbar has Tintonton on
thursday & Jon Tejada this Friday.

Good luck, and have lots of fun. I totally dig Chicago.

~juju


On 8/15/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Hey,
>
> I'm going to be in the Chicago area soon and I was
> wondering if any of you knew any resources as to where
> I could find a good party while I'm there. I tried to
> subscribe to midwest raves through hyperreal but no
> go. Any suggestions as to sites to check out for
> events, or venues?
>
> -Delia
>
> a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and packing my bongloads!
>
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Subject: [sfraves] BSP: Bassdrop @ BOCA - Wednesday

Bassdrop: The Final Chapter
Wednesday August 16th, 2006
@ BOCA (414 Jessie St.)
9pm - 2am
21+
$5 or Free w/guestlist signup

Unfortunately due to certain circumstances we will not be able to have
Carbon Community perform at this show as promised. He will be
performing on our Love Fest float and our really, really, really huge
after-party September 23rd with Opel. So for our final rendition of
Bassdrop we've decided to bring you a sick-ass local lineup and do it
FREE till midnight for the first 150 people to sign up on the
guestlist.

Sign up here:
http://evilbreaks.com/

Super wicked really cool local super star dj's:

Featuring the Evil Breaks Mashup:
Aaron Jae vs. Bam vs. M.O.D. (3 turntables, 2 mixers, absolute madness)
+
dj Mancub (Space Cowboys)
Athena (Evil Breaks)
Erik Hz (Jamconnect)


-- 
--------------------------
< Brandon / DJ Bam >

DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
http://www.evilbreaks.com

August 12th:  Obsoleet
August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's

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Chicago doesn't have many raves anymore...they all end up getting shut
down.  Check out midwestraves.com - you might be able to find something
there.  I just moved out a here a year ago from Chicago...I'll be back there
for a couple weeks at the end of this month - when will you be back there?

I can ask my friends if they have heard of anything big going down...

If there were to be a ug, it would be probably be in the ghetto or the burbs
(like Harvey).




On 8/15/06, Danielle <takoburrito@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Whatever you do, hit up the Green Dolphin Room on a Monday night for the
> longest-running deep house night in the city. Diz rocked it when I was
> there
> last week.
>
> Also, The Note has good music on Thursdays, and Smartbar has Tintonton on
> thursday & Jon Tejada this Friday.
>
> Good luck, and have lots of fun. I totally dig Chicago.
>
> ~juju
>
>
> On 8/15/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Hey,
> >
> > I'm going to be in the Chicago area soon and I was
> > wondering if any of you knew any resources as to where
> > I could find a good party while I'm there. I tried to
> > subscribe to midwest raves through hyperreal but no
> > go. Any suggestions as to sites to check out for
> > events, or venues?
> >
> > -Delia
> >
> > a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and packing my bongloads!
> >
> > aim= junglegurlee510
> > yahoo= velouria83
> > google talk= mskittiecat@gmail.com
> > MSN @ WORK = velouria83@yahoo.com
> >
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] chicago raves?

I'm going to be there the weekend of the 8th - 12th of
September. I would prefer an underground cuz I would
love to check out the scene, but any club night would
do as well.

Thanks for the pointers!

-D.

--- Jessica Lundborg <jflundborg@gmail.com> wrote:

> Chicago doesn't have many raves anymore...they all
> end up getting shut
> down.  Check out midwestraves.com - you might be
> able to find something
> there.  I just moved out a here a year ago from
> Chicago...I'll be back there
> for a couple weeks at the end of this month - when
> will you be back there?
> 
> I can ask my friends if they have heard of anything
> big going down...
> 
> If there were to be a ug, it would be probably be in
> the ghetto or the burbs
> (like Harvey).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/15/06, Danielle <takoburrito@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Whatever you do, hit up the Green Dolphin Room on
> a Monday night for the
> > longest-running deep house night in the city. Diz
> rocked it when I was
> > there
> > last week.
> >
> > Also, The Note has good music on Thursdays, and
> Smartbar has Tintonton on
> > thursday & Jon Tejada this Friday.
> >
> > Good luck, and have lots of fun. I totally dig
> Chicago.
> >
> > ~juju
> >
> >
> > On 8/15/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Hey,
> > >
> > > I'm going to be in the Chicago area soon and I
> was
> > > wondering if any of you knew any resources as to
> where
> > > I could find a good party while I'm there. I
> tried to
> > > subscribe to midwest raves through hyperreal but
> no
> > > go. Any suggestions as to sites to check out for
> > > events, or venues?
> > >
> > > -Delia
> > >
> > > a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and
> packing my bongloads!
> > >
> > > aim= junglegurlee510
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I typed the wrong link - sorry about that, it's actually midwestravers.com

I'm leaving Chicago on September 9th...too bad.  I will ask around though
for you and let you know of anything.  Are you going to be alone or with a
group of friends??

(don't want to send you to a scary part of town alone)




On 8/15/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I'm going to be there the weekend of the 8th - 12th of
> September. I would prefer an underground cuz I would
> love to check out the scene, but any club night would
> do as well.
>
> Thanks for the pointers!
>
> -D.
>
> --- Jessica Lundborg <jflundborg@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Chicago doesn't have many raves anymore...they all
> > end up getting shut
> > down.  Check out midwestraves.com - you might be
> > able to find something
> > there.  I just moved out a here a year ago from
> > Chicago...I'll be back there
> > for a couple weeks at the end of this month - when
> > will you be back there?
> >
> > I can ask my friends if they have heard of anything
> > big going down...
> >
> > If there were to be a ug, it would be probably be in
> > the ghetto or the burbs
> > (like Harvey).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/15/06, Danielle <takoburrito@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Whatever you do, hit up the Green Dolphin Room on
> > a Monday night for the
> > > longest-running deep house night in the city. Diz
> > rocked it when I was
> > > there
> > > last week.
> > >
> > > Also, The Note has good music on Thursdays, and
> > Smartbar has Tintonton on
> > > thursday & Jon Tejada this Friday.
> > >
> > > Good luck, and have lots of fun. I totally dig
> > Chicago.
> > >
> > > ~juju
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/15/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hey Hey,
> > > >
> > > > I'm going to be in the Chicago area soon and I
> > was
> > > > wondering if any of you knew any resources as to
> > where
> > > > I could find a good party while I'm there. I
> > tried to
> > > > subscribe to midwest raves through hyperreal but
> > no
> > > > go. Any suggestions as to sites to check out for
> > > > events, or venues?
> > > >
> > > > -Delia
> > > >
> > > > a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and
> > packing my bongloads!
> > > >
> > > > aim= junglegurlee510
> > > > yahoo= velouria83
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the wifey and I are going to be in Chicago from Sept. 21 - 26.

we're going mostly for the art and architecture, but we're always  
down for good house music. :-)

-Philip-



On Aug 15, 2006, at 11:29 AM, Jessica Lundborg wrote:

> I typed the wrong link - sorry about that, it's actually  
> midwestravers.com
>
> I'm leaving Chicago on September 9th...too bad.  I will ask around  
> though
> for you and let you know of anything.  Are you going to be alone or  
> with a
> group of friends??
>
> (don't want to send you to a scary part of town alone)
>
>
>
>
> On 8/15/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm going to be there the weekend of the 8th - 12th of
>> September. I would prefer an underground cuz I would
>> love to check out the scene, but any club night would
>> do as well.
>>
>> Thanks for the pointers!
>>
>> -D.
>>
>> --- Jessica Lundborg <jflundborg@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Chicago doesn't have many raves anymore...they all
>> > end up getting shut
>> > down.  Check out midwestraves.com - you might be
>> > able to find something
>> > there.  I just moved out a here a year ago from
>> > Chicago...I'll be back there
>> > for a couple weeks at the end of this month - when
>> > will you be back there?
>> >
>> > I can ask my friends if they have heard of anything
>> > big going down...
>> >
>> > If there were to be a ug, it would be probably be in
>> > the ghetto or the burbs
>> > (like Harvey).
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 8/15/06, Danielle <takoburrito@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Whatever you do, hit up the Green Dolphin Room on
>> > a Monday night for the
>> > > longest-running deep house night in the city. Diz
>> > rocked it when I was
>> > > there
>> > > last week.
>> > >
>> > > Also, The Note has good music on Thursdays, and
>> > Smartbar has Tintonton on
>> > > thursday & Jon Tejada this Friday.
>> > >
>> > > Good luck, and have lots of fun. I totally dig
>> > Chicago.
>> > >
>> > > ~juju
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 8/15/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Hey Hey,
>> > > >
>> > > > I'm going to be in the Chicago area soon and I
>> > was
>> > > > wondering if any of you knew any resources as to
>> > where
>> > > > I could find a good party while I'm there. I
>> > tried to
>> > > > subscribe to midwest raves through hyperreal but
>> > no
>> > > > go. Any suggestions as to sites to check out for
>> > > > events, or venues?
>> > > >
>> > > > -Delia
>> > > >
>> > > > a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and
>> > packing my bongloads!
>> > > >
>> > > > aim= junglegurlee510
>> > > > yahoo= velouria83
>> > > > google talk= mskittiecat@gmail.com
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On Aug 15, 2006, at 7:50 AM, <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>  
<dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Another Sunset resident here...
>
> I live over near Albertson's on Sloat.

Ah.  Shop there often.

I'm a block south of Judah on La Playa.

>
> Its definitely San Francisco.
>
> Peter
>
> P.S. Ever been to Just Wonton on Vicente?  Awesome noodles.

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Pacific near the end of Irving.

>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
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>>> Cool! Are you in the city proper or outside of SF?
>>>
>>> ~j
>>
>> yeah, i live in the sunset--out in "the avenues". though some debate
>> if this is sf proper.
>>
>> - bobby
>>
>
> I hope the hell I live in SF "proper" out here on Ocean Beach.   
> Otherwise the thousands of dollars in property taxes I pay each  
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> assessment) must be going somewhere improper ;-)
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> MySpace:  http://www.myspace.com/DJApollo
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> Tribenet:   <http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k>http:// 
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> House Music 101:  http://livingart.com/raving/articles/ 
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> assholes got in there." - Frank Zappa
>
> "Music is prophecy, its style and economic organization are ahead  
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With a group of friends. Thanks I appreciate it!

-D.

--- Jessica Lundborg <jflundborg@gmail.com> wrote:

> I typed the wrong link - sorry about that, it's
> actually midwestravers.com
> 
> I'm leaving Chicago on September 9th...too bad.  I
> will ask around though
> for you and let you know of anything.  Are you going
> to be alone or with a
> group of friends??
> 
> (don't want to send you to a scary part of town
> alone)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/15/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm going to be there the weekend of the 8th -
> 12th of
> > September. I would prefer an underground cuz I
> would
> > love to check out the scene, but any club night
> would
> > do as well.
> >
> > Thanks for the pointers!
> >
> > -D.
> >
> > --- Jessica Lundborg <jflundborg@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Chicago doesn't have many raves anymore...they
> all
> > > end up getting shut
> > > down.  Check out midwestraves.com - you might be
> > > able to find something
> > > there.  I just moved out a here a year ago from
> > > Chicago...I'll be back there
> > > for a couple weeks at the end of this month -
> when
> > > will you be back there?
> > >
> > > I can ask my friends if they have heard of
> anything
> > > big going down...
> > >
> > > If there were to be a ug, it would be probably
> be in
> > > the ghetto or the burbs
> > > (like Harvey).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/15/06, Danielle <takoburrito@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Whatever you do, hit up the Green Dolphin Room
> on
> > > a Monday night for the
> > > > longest-running deep house night in the city.
> Diz
> > > rocked it when I was
> > > > there
> > > > last week.
> > > >
> > > > Also, The Note has good music on Thursdays,
> and
> > > Smartbar has Tintonton on
> > > > thursday & Jon Tejada this Friday.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck, and have lots of fun. I totally dig
> > > Chicago.
> > > >
> > > > ~juju
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 8/15/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey Hey,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm going to be in the Chicago area soon and
> I
> > > was
> > > > > wondering if any of you knew any resources
> as to
> > > where
> > > > > I could find a good party while I'm there. I
> > > tried to
> > > > > subscribe to midwest raves through hyperreal
> but
> > > no
> > > > > go. Any suggestions as to sites to check out
> for
> > > > > events, or venues?
> > > > >
> > > > > -Delia
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Subject: [sfraves] SRR: Dude bids 420 on everything on The Price Is Right

Actually, except for one time where he bid 1420 and he would have won.
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006, Apollo wrote:
-&e->Haven't been Peter.  Sounds good.  Also, if you like Cajun try Cajun
-&e->Pacific near the end of Irving.

Muther fuck.  Why did you have to remind me.  CP has been missing from my 
life, I am shit (used to live some 10 blocks away).

I'm totally gonna go this weekend, and load up on jalapeno cornbread, 
refried turkey, some southern sides and anchor steam.

I LOVE THAT PLACE SO MUCH.  They invited me over for their party they 
throw during Bay to Breakers last year, so frikking awesome.  Earthy as 
possible ambience with completely off-the-chain food.  The main guy that 
runs it is a CCA grad who just loves to cook, loves southern culture and 
honestly just seems to love life.

Also, check on the counter, to the right there is an ancient Xerox copy of 
a recipie book that is the most incredible thing I have ever seen as far 
as cooking books go.  Squirrel head pie, how to clean and hang a racoon 
and other classics.

andyw

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] chicago raves?

Damn I just got back from Chicago last night!

It was great. Chicago is an amazing city. I haven't been there since 99 and 
boy did my memory not serve me well. I am thoroughly impressed.  Played a 
small club on thursday (which reminded me of many smaller SF clubs) called 
Vertigo.  The whole bar was painted in themes of Hitchcock movies (Birds, 
Vertigo, North by Northwest, hitchcock himself) it was awesome.

Then I played in the Penthouse of "Vision" on Saturday.  That club was 
amazing.  5 stories packed full of people.  Armin Van Horn who I'd never 
heard of was playing in the main room and he deffinatly rocked it.  I would 
say if you are going to be in Chicago don't miss this place.  Also from what 
some of my friends in Chicago say don't miss "Sound Bar".  Its a bit more 
upscale, but super dope.  We walked by it but didn't go it.

Chicago has a huge day party coming up that goes from Noon to Midnight with 
the likes of Tiesto, Deep Dish, Dave Clarke, Bad Boy Bill,  Benny Benassi, 
Junkie XL and more.  The event is called PURENATION and is on September 2nd.

Sander Kleinenberg is playing Vision on August 19th, Theres a campout called 
"Outlawed and Ecstatic present Campout" that looks pretty good thats on 
September 2-3.

And dont' forget Earthdance is on September 15,16, & 17th.

A few sites to check out would be www.midwest-edm.com also 
www.midwest-underground.com there's some good info on those forums.

:)

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> With a group of friends. Thanks I appreciate it!
>
> -D.
>
> --- Jessica Lundborg <jflundborg@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I typed the wrong link - sorry about that, it's
>> actually midwestravers.com
>>
>> I'm leaving Chicago on September 9th...too bad.  I
>> will ask around though
>> for you and let you know of anything.  Are you going
>> to be alone or with a
>> group of friends??
>>
>> (don't want to send you to a scary part of town
>> alone)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/15/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm going to be there the weekend of the 8th -
>> 12th of
>> > September. I would prefer an underground cuz I
>> would
>> > love to check out the scene, but any club night
>> would
>> > do as well.
>> >
>> > Thanks for the pointers!
>> >
>> > -D.
>> >
>> > --- Jessica Lundborg <jflundborg@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Chicago doesn't have many raves anymore...they
>> all
>> > > end up getting shut
>> > > down.  Check out midwestraves.com - you might be
>> > > able to find something
>> > > there.  I just moved out a here a year ago from
>> > > Chicago...I'll be back there
>> > > for a couple weeks at the end of this month -
>> when
>> > > will you be back there?
>> > >
>> > > I can ask my friends if they have heard of
>> anything
>> > > big going down...
>> > >
>> > > If there were to be a ug, it would be probably
>> be in
>> > > the ghetto or the burbs
>> > > (like Harvey).
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 8/15/06, Danielle <takoburrito@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Whatever you do, hit up the Green Dolphin Room
>> on
>> > > a Monday night for the
>> > > > longest-running deep house night in the city.
>> Diz
>> > > rocked it when I was
>> > > > there
>> > > > last week.
>> > > >
>> > > > Also, The Note has good music on Thursdays,
>> and
>> > > Smartbar has Tintonton on
>> > > > thursday & Jon Tejada this Friday.
>> > > >
>> > > > Good luck, and have lots of fun. I totally dig
>> > > Chicago.
>> > > >
>> > > > ~juju
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On 8/15/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Hey Hey,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I'm going to be in the Chicago area soon and
>> I
>> > > was
>> > > > > wondering if any of you knew any resources
>> as to
>> > > where
>> > > > > I could find a good party while I'm there. I
>> > > tried to
>> > > > > subscribe to midwest raves through hyperreal
>> but
>> > > no
>> > > > > go. Any suggestions as to sites to check out
>> for
>> > > > > events, or venues?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -Delia
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Forgive the long post.  I thought this article was worth sharing, but =20=

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Apollo




Jaron's World: The Murder of Mystery

How Silicon Valley joined the superstitious fringe as the enemy of =20
open inquiry.

By Jaron Lanier

DISCOVER Vol. 27 No. 09 | September 2006

Last week I had a jarring conversation with one of the most =20
influential figures in Silicon Valley. Me: I wish more kids were =20
learning to be musicians. He: In 10 years computers will be able to =20
use a combination of artificial intelligence and massed data from the =20=

Internet to generate music better than human musicians. We can =20
already use these techniques to choose hit songs more accurately than =20=

record executives. Musicianship will be an obsolete profession by the =20=

time today's kids grow up. There might be good reasons to teach kids =20
music, but creating a new generation of professional musicians is not =20=

one of them.

This was one of those moments when I wondered at what's become of =20
computer culture. The remark was the kind of thing Marvin Minsky, the =20=

legendary MIT professor and one of the fathers of artificial =20
intelligence, used to say to me when I was a young researcher to piss =20=

me off and make me think. But there were unmistakable layers of humor =20=

and irony in Marvin's provocations. Many of today's Silicon Valley =20
thought leaders seem to have embraced what used to be speculations as =20=

certainties, without the spirit of unbounded curiosity that =20
originally gave rise to them.

Ideas that used to be tucked away in the obscure world of artificial =20
intelligence labs have gone mainstream in tech culture. The basic =20
tenet of this new culture is that all of reality, including humans, =20
is one big information system. The meaning of life, in this view, is =20
making that system function at ever-higher "levels of description." =20
People pretend to know what "levels of description" means, though I =20
doubt anyone really does. A Web page is thought to represent a higher =20=

level of description than a single letter, while a brain is a higher =20
level than a Web page. An increasingly common extension of this =20
notion is that the Net as a whole is or soon will be a higher level =20
than a brain.

There's nothing special about the place of humans in this scheme. =20
Soon computers will get so big and fast and the Net so rich with =20
information that we will be obsolete, either left behind or subsumed =20
into some cyber-superhuman something.

Silicon Valley culture has recently taken to enshrining this abstract =20=

idea and spreading it in a novel way. Since implementation speaks =20
louder than words, ideas can be spread in the designs of software. If =20=

you believe the distinction between the roles of people and computers =20=

is starting to dissolve, you might express that, as some friends of =20
mine at Microsoft once did, by designing features for a word =20
processor that are supposed to know what you want, such as when you =20
want to start an outline. You might have had the experience of having =20=

Word suddenly determine that you are creating an indented outline at =20
the wrong moment. While I am all for the automation of petty tasks, =20
this is different. =46rom my point of view this type of design feature =20=

is nonsense, since you end up having to learn more than you would =20
otherwise in order to manipulate such software's expectations of you. =20=

The real function of the feature isn't to make life easier=97it is to =20=

express a new philosophy.

For decades I've been complaining about antihuman computer culture, =20
and I frequently end up attracting some unwelcome allies. I seek to =20
influence young technical people=97and I think I have been able to do =20=

that=97but I also seem to excite some other folks who get it all wrong. =20=

I'm not the slightest bit Luddite. I don't believe that something =20
natural is necessarily any more meaningful or true than something =20
artificial. I'm actually a raving technological utopian!

A description of my particular utopian thinking will have to wait for =20=

another month's column, but I believe the most beautiful =20
possibilities come from treating people as mysterious wells of =20
meaning and using technology to find new ways to connect people to =20
each other. The important point is that while I'm willing to go very =20
far in imagining what information technology might be like in the =20
future, I don't assume that I know quite what a person is, and =20
therefore I don't attempt to reduce personhood in my designs.

These days I feel as though I'm walking on a tightrope, with a crowd =20
of ravenous faux robotic nerds on one side and a gaggle of =20
sentimental antiquarians on the other. I try not to fall to either side.

In a sense, this is a continuation of old battles sparked by the =20
Enlightenment. You can imagine some of the traditional religious =20
enemies of the Enlightenment on one side of the rope. The least =20
likable have always been those driven by the power that comes from =20
perpetuating church empires built on the fear of death. This was and =20
remains the setup for popes and bishops who would bother to persecute =20=

a Galileo or ridicule a Darwin.

Of course, there are also many religious or spiritual people who =20
understandably wonder about questions related to death and who worry =20
whether meaning, beauty, and other deeply human qualities can survive =20=

the cold scrutiny of rational inquiry. If a new technologically =20
informed worldview isn't attractive to such people, I think =20
technologists ought to change their culture to make it more =20
welcoming, and that is particularly true for product designers.

There are also lunatics congregating on the other side of the =20
tightrope: those who are treating the mere appearance of rationality =20
as a fetish. Communists loved to overrule science, for instance, even =20=

though they cloaked themselves in language and even clothing styles =20
that were supposed to evoke rationality. In the Soviet Union, the =20
ideas of Trofim Lysenko, an anti-Darwinian pseudoscientist, were =20
preferred over reality, contributing to disastrous agricultural =20
policies. Similar things are happening today when business interests =20
suppress global-warming research.

You can always tell when an idea comes from fake rationalists. The =20
telltale sign is a premature decline in mystery, specifically the =20
kind of mystery that can be tackled through testable hypotheses. =20
Intelligent design falls into this category. If you believe a =20
biological structure is nothing more than a fashion decision made by =20
God (or an alien), there's nothing you can do to explain it beyond =20
that; you're done. While it might at first seem to enshrine mystery, =20
intelligent design actually insulates us from the endless, intriguing =20=

mysteries of nature by providing one answer in advance for everything.

It would have been possible to treat Darwin's insights in exactly the =20=

same way. A lazy, nonscientific Darwinian could say "Everything =20
evolved" and be done with it. Some of my misguided colleagues do just =20=

that when they say things like, "Computers will inevitably evolve to =20
correct flaws in our posthuman visions, such as the fact that =20
software is endlessly buggy and needs to be fixed by human programmers."

The reason Darwin's ideas are so powerful is that there was another =20
option. His ideas opened a type of path not opened by intelligent =20
design: methodically challenging the initial base of ideas and =20
refining it until it becomes something far more specific and useful. =20
Biology benefited from an intellectual revolution provided by Darwin =20
but has in many ways left him behind. Biologists now deal in genes, =20
viruses, and a world of other objects and ideas Darwin didn't know =20
about.

Lately the problem of premature mystery reduction has cropped up more =20=

than once within technical cultures. The tone taken by some string =20
theorists reminds me of what I'm criticizing in recent Silicon Valley =20=

thinking (see "Tangled Up in Strings" on page 68).

Is reality a giant information system and people just arbitrarily =20
defined portions of it? Wrong question! Information theory is =20
tremendously useful, but it doesn't tell us anything until it's been =20
used. The idea that you might someday understand something is =20
different from actually understanding it, or even knowing the right =20
questions to ask. The big idea behind the new fake rationality is so =20
diffuse that it's useless, except as a cultural badge.

That brings me back to my misguided colleague and his ideas about the =20=

future of music. There are a multitude of mysteries prematurely =20
reduced by his point of view. We don't know what music is, exactly. =20
We don't know much about how the brain works. We don't even have good =20=

experimental methods to tell when we're bending over backward to make =20=

a computer merely seem smart.

If I really believed that science was reducing the mystery of life, I =20=

would feel claustrophobic, but just the opposite is true. The more =20
science I learn, the more mysteries I learn about, and the richer =20
life becomes. I wonder if a technical culture that was better at =20
avoiding premature claims of mystery reduction would find more =20
friends among the sensitive, "spiritual" people I referred to =20
earlier. Some extreme religious people will probably never embrace =20
science, but I often wonder if the harshness of the way some =20
scientists talk about the nerd future is driving reasonable people away.

Avoiding a premature decline in mystery is also a great principle for =20=

making better software. You don't have to pretend to know what music =20
is to give musicians new ways to work together, but you do have to =20
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] The rave scene and what it's all about?

    Cajun food? In San Francisco? Don't kid yourselves. The only real 
Cajun food is served in little dirty ass shacks in rural Louisiana by 
dirty ass Cajun people that say things like "sha." So, unless your food 
is covered in spices and has been cooked by someone who thinks 60,000 
people in a swamp constitutes a big city and contains crawfish in some 
way, it's not real Cajun food. It's a bastardized Californian version of it.

    Sorry for the rant, but being from Louisiana I've eaten a lot of 
Cajun food, and I can say with a fairly high degree of certainty that 
you can't find the real stuff out here.

    Fools.



Apollo wrote:
>
> On Aug 15, 2006, at 7:50 AM, <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> 
> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Another Sunset resident here...
>>
>> I live over near Albertson's on Sloat.
>
> Ah.  Shop there often.
>
> I'm a block south of Judah on La Playa.
>
>>
>> Its definitely San Francisco.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> P.S. Ever been to Just Wonton on Vicente?  Awesome noodles.
>
> Haven't been Peter.  Sounds good.  Also, if you like Cajun try Cajun 
> Pacific near the end of Irving.
>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Apollo <apollo@speakeasy.org>
>> To: Bobby Burgess <bobbyburgess@gmail.com>; sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 11:13:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] The rave scene and what it's all about?
>>
>> At 10:37 PM 8/14/2006, Bobby Burgess wrote:
>>>> Cool! Are you in the city proper or outside of SF?
>>>>
>>>> ~j
>>>
>>> yeah, i live in the sunset--out in "the avenues". though some debate
>>> if this is sf proper.
>>>
>>> - bobby
>>>
>>
>> I hope the hell I live in SF "proper" out here on Ocean Beach.  
>> Otherwise the thousands of dollars in property taxes I pay each year 
>> to the alleged SF tax assessor (who just raised the assessment) must 
>> be going somewhere improper ;-)
>>
>>
>> MySpace:  http://www.myspace.com/DJApollo
>>
>> Tribenet:   
>> <http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k>http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k
>>
>> House Music 101:  http://livingart.com/raving/articles/housemusic101.htm
>>
>> "Americans like to talk about (or be told about) Democracy but, when 
>> put to the test, usually find it to be an 'inconvenience.' We have 
>> opted instead for an authoritarian system disguised as a Democracy. 
>> We pay through the nose for an enormous joke-of-a-government, let it 
>> push us around, and then wonder how all those assholes got in there." 
>> - Frank Zappa
>>
>> "Music is prophecy, its style and economic organization are ahead of 
>> the rest of society. It makes audible the new world that will 
>> gradually become visible."
>> -Jacques Attali in his seminal text "Noise"
>>
>>
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On Aug 15, 2006, at 1:42 PM, Alex Laughlin wrote:

>    Cajun food? In San Francisco? Don't kid yourselves. The only  
> real Cajun food is served in little dirty ass shacks in rural  
> Louisiana by dirty ass Cajun people that say things like "sha." So,  
> unless your food is covered in spices and has been cooked by  
> someone who thinks 60,000 people in a swamp constitutes a big city  
> and contains crawfish in some way, it's not real Cajun food. It's a  
> bastardized Californian version of it.

I donno man.  Think I ate some crawfish there Alex. But maybeee you  
go there and see for yourself.  Then you give us passionsha  
critique.  BTW, I love da absolutes.

>
>    Sorry for the rant, but being from Louisiana I've eaten a lot of  
> Cajun food, and I can say with a fairly high degree of certainty  
> that you can't find the real stuff out here.
>
>    Fools.
>
>
>
> Apollo wrote:
>>
>> On Aug 15, 2006, at 7:50 AM, <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>  
>> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Another Sunset resident here...
>>>
>>> I live over near Albertson's on Sloat.
>>
>> Ah.  Shop there often.
>>
>> I'm a block south of Judah on La Playa.
>>
>>>
>>> Its definitely San Francisco.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> P.S. Ever been to Just Wonton on Vicente?  Awesome noodles.
>>
>> Haven't been Peter.  Sounds good.  Also, if you like Cajun try  
>> Cajun Pacific near the end of Irving.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Apollo <apollo@speakeasy.org>
>>> To: Bobby Burgess <bobbyburgess@gmail.com>; sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 11:13:34 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] The rave scene and what it's all about?
>>>
>>> At 10:37 PM 8/14/2006, Bobby Burgess wrote:
>>>>> Cool! Are you in the city proper or outside of SF?
>>>>>
>>>>> ~j
>>>>
>>>> yeah, i live in the sunset--out in "the avenues". though some  
>>>> debate
>>>> if this is sf proper.
>>>>
>>>> - bobby
>>>>
>>>
>>> I hope the hell I live in SF "proper" out here on Ocean Beach.   
>>> Otherwise the thousands of dollars in property taxes I pay each  
>>> year to the alleged SF tax assessor (who just raised the  
>>> assessment) must be going somewhere improper ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>> MySpace:  http://www.myspace.com/DJApollo
>>>
>>> Tribenet:   <http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k>http:// 
>>> people.tribe.net/djapollo2k
>>>
>>> House Music 101:  http://livingart.com/raving/articles/ 
>>> housemusic101.htm
>>>
>>> "Americans like to talk about (or be told about) Democracy but,  
>>> when put to the test, usually find it to be an 'inconvenience.'  
>>> We have opted instead for an authoritarian system disguised as a  
>>> Democracy. We pay through the nose for an enormous joke-of-a- 
>>> government, let it push us around, and then wonder how all those  
>>> assholes got in there." - Frank Zappa
>>>
>>> "Music is prophecy, its style and economic organization are ahead  
>>> of the rest of society. It makes audible the new world that will  
>>> gradually become visible."
>>> -Jacques Attali in his seminal text "Noise"
>>>
>>>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] The rave scene and what it's all about?

    Even if the food is cooked exactly the same way it's still not the 
same. The ambiance is different, you don't get the same culture. 
Further, the air and water are different here, which has a big impact on 
the way food is going to taste. You may have had *some* crawfish out 
here, but it probably wasn't included in almost every dish. And even if 
you've had crawfish here, it's not the same as crawfish that was pulled 
out of the swamp the same day you're eating it.

    I also seriously doubt you've ever had boudain here, which is 
another Cajun staple.

    Lookit, I lived in Louisiana for seventeen years, I know all about 
some Cajun food and culture. The food is just not the same without the 
culture. You can't get the culture with your food out here. Not that you 
can even get properly cooked Cajun food here.


Apollo wrote:
>
> On Aug 15, 2006, at 1:42 PM, Alex Laughlin wrote:
>
>>    Cajun food? In San Francisco? Don't kid yourselves. The only real 
>> Cajun food is served in little dirty ass shacks in rural Louisiana by 
>> dirty ass Cajun people that say things like "sha." So, unless your 
>> food is covered in spices and has been cooked by someone who thinks 
>> 60,000 people in a swamp constitutes a big city and contains crawfish 
>> in some way, it's not real Cajun food. It's a bastardized Californian 
>> version of it.
>
> I donno man.  Think I ate some crawfish there Alex. But maybeee you go 
> there and see for yourself.  Then you give us passionsha critique.  
> BTW, I love da absolutes.
>
>>
>>    Sorry for the rant, but being from Louisiana I've eaten a lot of 
>> Cajun food, and I can say with a fairly high degree of certainty that 
>> you can't find the real stuff out here.
>>
>>    Fools.
>>
>>
>>
>> Apollo wrote:
>>>
>>> On Aug 15, 2006, at 7:50 AM, <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> 
>>> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Another Sunset resident here...
>>>>
>>>> I live over near Albertson's on Sloat.
>>>
>>> Ah.  Shop there often.
>>>
>>> I'm a block south of Judah on La Playa.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Its definitely San Francisco.
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>> P.S. Ever been to Just Wonton on Vicente?  Awesome noodles.
>>>
>>> Haven't been Peter.  Sounds good.  Also, if you like Cajun try Cajun 
>>> Pacific near the end of Irving.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: Apollo <apollo@speakeasy.org>
>>>> To: Bobby Burgess <bobbyburgess@gmail.com>; sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 11:13:34 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] The rave scene and what it's all about?
>>>>
>>>> At 10:37 PM 8/14/2006, Bobby Burgess wrote:
>>>>>> Cool! Are you in the city proper or outside of SF?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~j
>>>>>
>>>>> yeah, i live in the sunset--out in "the avenues". though some debate
>>>>> if this is sf proper.
>>>>>
>>>>> - bobby
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I hope the hell I live in SF "proper" out here on Ocean Beach.  
>>>> Otherwise the thousands of dollars in property taxes I pay each 
>>>> year to the alleged SF tax assessor (who just raised the 
>>>> assessment) must be going somewhere improper ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> MySpace:  http://www.myspace.com/DJApollo
>>>>
>>>> Tribenet:   
>>>> <http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k>http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k
>>>>
>>>> House Music 101:  
>>>> http://livingart.com/raving/articles/housemusic101.htm
>>>>
>>>> "Americans like to talk about (or be told about) Democracy but, 
>>>> when put to the test, usually find it to be an 'inconvenience.' We 
>>>> have opted instead for an authoritarian system disguised as a 
>>>> Democracy. We pay through the nose for an enormous 
>>>> joke-of-a-government, let it push us around, and then wonder how 
>>>> all those assholes got in there." - Frank Zappa
>>>>
>>>> "Music is prophecy, its style and economic organization are ahead 
>>>> of the rest of society. It makes audible the new world that will 
>>>> gradually become visible."
>>>> -Jacques Attali in his seminal text "Noise"
>>>>
>>>>
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I had such a great time at Obsoleet! The whole night felt like a lesson in
SF Rave history, and indeed I was schooled. Sorry I missed your set, Marco =
=96
now I owe *you* dinner. Thanks to Bam for introducing me to so many people,
Justin Hale for talking me into my little indiscretion, and Osby for taking
the money shot. AndyW tastes like techno.

The lineup was dope =96 not very often I get to hear so many genres at one
party (oh and the sound was good too) and I danced all night. Huuuuge love
to the Fingermonsters =96 together you form a super house robot. We must ma=
ke
you voltron-like interlocking costumes. And yes, Heaven Scent was the
perfect end to the dance party.

Double yeys for all the hardore people who made it out to dance in the park
on Sunday. Pomegranate mimosas are grate. Or something like that.
Props.

~juju

On 8/14/06, Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> It was my pleasure to tag with you again Brandon (we always seem to play
> some rad shit together), and an even bigger pleasure to have played for
> the
> SFRP folks. They all did an OUTSTANDING job with this party. I'm super
> impressed with how quickly they put togetehr the quality party that
> happened. Sick.
>
> My hat is off...
>
>
>
> >From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
> >To: "Starfleet HQ" <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: [sfraves] Obsoleet - whew! (and photos)
> >Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 09:27:35 -0700
> >
> >i have been a part of many, many events.  i think with evil breaks
> >alone, i've thrown nearly 20 events in the past 2 years or so (jesus,
> >that's kinda scary).
> >
> >but this was one of the prouder moments i've had.  this was a class
> >act crew and a spot on party.  i mean rave.   it was a rave god
> >damnit.
> >
> >i probably said this when i was drunk and babbling, but to chris jax,
> >justin hale, andyw and li...you guys are my vinyl slaying heros.  that
> >was some serious choonage you done thrown down.
> >
> >and now, photos from veanne:
> >
> >http://mylai.com/seered/morphis/obsoleet/index.html
> >
> >
> >--
> >--------------------------
> >< Brandon / DJ Bam >
> >
> >DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
> >http://www.evilbreaks.com
> >
> >August 12th:  Obsoleet
> >August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
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I'm thinking about hitting the GGL/Sunset underground...

Any other possibilities?

Anyone know anything about the two bands that are playing at that party?  Landshark and something else I forget.

Peace,

Peter


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Subject: Re: [sfraves] chicago raves?

Yaya... here's the profiles on myspace of 2 of my HOmie's who live out
that way :)

Chris
  http://www.myspace.com/djsushi
he's all about the broken beats & his crew, Brut Force, lay it down over
there :)  He may still be up w/ the Jungle scene there...

Matt Nee
  http://www.myspace.com/kompute

he does alota electro, Techno, IDM, & NO Wave stuff :) He's also involved
in helping throw alota Loft parties...

My Homegirl Lisa just moved back to Chicago after living here a million
years.. so she's still tyrin' to find her way in2 the scene out there....

I'll send you her myspace later :)

Give LC {{{HUGZ}}} from me :)  Call me later Girl! Looooooove U!


-- 
Take Care <3
Peace=->Jus' Me =-> O§bY {8O)



Delia wrote:
> I'm going to be there the weekend of the 8th - 12th of
> September. I would prefer an underground cuz I would
> love to check out the scene, but any club night would
> do as well.
>
> Thanks for the pointers!
>
> -D.
>
> --- Jessica Lundborg <jflundborg@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Chicago doesn't have many raves anymore...they all
>> end up getting shut
>> down.  Check out midwestraves.com - you might be
>> able to find something
>> there.  I just moved out a here a year ago from
>> Chicago...I'll be back there
>> for a couple weeks at the end of this month - when
>> will you be back there?
>>
>> I can ask my friends if they have heard of anything
>> big going down...
>>
>> If there were to be a ug, it would be probably be in
>> the ghetto or the burbs
>> (like Harvey).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/15/06, Danielle <takoburrito@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Whatever you do, hit up the Green Dolphin Room on
>> a Monday night for the
>> > longest-running deep house night in the city. Diz
>> rocked it when I was
>> > there
>> > last week.
>> >
>> > Also, The Note has good music on Thursdays, and
>> Smartbar has Tintonton on
>> > thursday & Jon Tejada this Friday.
>> >
>> > Good luck, and have lots of fun. I totally dig
>> Chicago.
>> >
>> > ~juju
>> >
>> >
>> > On 8/15/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hey Hey,
>> > >
>> > > I'm going to be in the Chicago area soon and I
>> was
>> > > wondering if any of you knew any resources as to
>> where
>> > > I could find a good party while I'm there. I
>> tried to
>> > > subscribe to midwest raves through hyperreal but
>> no
>> > > go. Any suggestions as to sites to check out for
>> > > events, or venues?
>> > >
>> > > -Delia
>> > >
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We've got an all night 80's party at Endup tonight.  Not a rave per se, but 
it does go from 9pm - 6am and then right into T-dance all day until Super 
soul sunday ay 8pm until 4am...

So, sat night to monday morning straight through is fairly rave minded...  ;)



At 02:39 PM 8/15/2006, you wrote:
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>
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>
>Anyone know anything about the two bands that are playing at that 
>party?  Landshark and something else I forget.
>
>Peace,
>
>Peter
>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] what's up this Saturday?

Another option for Saturday...

Brian Aneurysm (aka EchoPilot) @ Kontrol, Rx Gallery

Check out this track!  If you dig it, you'll probably like the music.
It's just like a 2 minute teaser (small file) but you'll get the idea.
I personally think this is one of the sickest cuts to come out in
awhile! (It's actually from 2003 I think, but I just stumbled across
it last year.)

http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/EchoPilot_-_Emptiness.mp3

minimal techno and tech-house.
deep, dark, heavy, and pretty.

good shit.

----> Greg

full info @ http://www.kontrolsf.com








On 8/15/06, Shatter <shatter@sonic.net> wrote:
>
> We've got an all night 80's party at Endup tonight.  Not a rave per se, but
> it does go from 9pm - 6am and then right into T-dance all day until Super
> soul sunday ay 8pm until 4am...
>
> So, sat night to monday morning straight through is fairly rave minded...  ;)
>
>
>
> At 02:39 PM 8/15/2006, you wrote:
> >I'm thinking about hitting the GGL/Sunset underground...
> >
> >Any other possibilities?
> >
> >Anyone know anything about the two bands that are playing at that
> >party?  Landshark and something else I forget.
> >
> >Peace,
> >
> >Peter
> >
> >
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] what's up this Saturday?

Shatter I'm probably heading underground, but the End Up is always on my list.  You never know when you'll, err, end up there.

However, since I'm in a bitchy mood and need rant about something, I have to say I don't get the whole 80s night thing.  

I used to go out dancing in the eighties in LA and I heard most of this stuff 10 million times.  It wasn't that great.  Bleh.

Peter

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We've got an all night 80's party at Endup tonight.  Not a rave per se, but 
it does go from 9pm - 6am and then right into T-dance all day until Super 
soul sunday ay 8pm until 4am...

So, sat night to monday morning straight through is fairly rave minded...  ;)



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>
>Any other possibilities?
>
>Anyone know anything about the two bands that are playing at that 
>party?  Landshark and something else I forget.
>
>Peace,
>
>Peter
>
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Subject: [sfraves] BSP: Symbiosis Gathering

Actually,this isn't my BSP but I heard about it so I'mpassing it on to those that might be intrested.  I note Erik Davis is speaking at this event.  I'm a big fan of Erik's and almost fell off the roof at his launch party for his last book.

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] what's up this Saturday?


I don't get it either, but when it packs 500-600 into the house, who's 
complaining.

What was funny last year was that it wa sthe first year that people born in 
1984 could actually go to 1984 at Cat Club thursdays.

Figure that one out.

--S

At 07:17 PM 8/15/2006, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
>Shatter I'm probably heading underground, but the End Up is always on my 
>list.  You never know when you'll, err, end up there.
>
>However, since I'm in a bitchy mood and need rant about something, I have 
>to say I don't get the whole 80s night thing.
>
>I used to go out dancing in the eighties in LA and I heard most of this 
>stuff 10 million times.  It wasn't that great.  Bleh.
>
>Peter
>
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>We've got an all night 80's party at Endup tonight.  Not a rave per se, but
>it does go from 9pm - 6am and then right into T-dance all day until Super
>soul sunday ay 8pm until 4am...
>
>So, sat night to monday morning straight through is fairly rave minded...  ;)
>
>
>
>At 02:39 PM 8/15/2006, you wrote:
> >I'm thinking about hitting the GGL/Sunset underground...
> >
> >Any other possibilities?
> >
> >Anyone know anything about the two bands that are playing at that
> >party?  Landshark and something else I forget.
> >
> >Peace,
> >
> >Peter
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This sounds amazing. All ages I hope hope hope hope?

On 8/15/06, Charlie Fisher <dangerkitty666@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Invisible Hero Industries presents.....
>                         A S P I R E
>                           8yr Clelebration
>                     Saturday August 19th
>
> Bringing together art music dance and positivity....for a magical
> night of laughter and smiles!
>
>
> Sound Selectors on the main floor
> Nikola Batalya-Blue Collar Entertainment/Tweekin
> Ben Davis-Tweekin Records
> Dj Centipede-CB records
>    Raw Deluxe-Live hiphop/funk Phenomenom
>        Phleck&Gordo- Live scratch performace
> Upstairs in the loft
>   Seth-U.S.S.
>   Neptune-Beat Church
>    Olliver Vaugn-Progress SF
>      Jason White-D.I.P.S./BPM records
>
> Solid Goldiggers Burlesque troop performances throughout the night
> Deconstruction art exhibit with art of MOTTS- www.opacity.us
> Lights and Lasers by Tribal Existance Lighting...
> Featuring two floors of the best in SF music and performance art....
> Full bar,Virgin UG location in SF and a 25th birthday celebration
> for Charlie. Bring your dancing shoes and smiles for an event like no
> other!
>
> INFO (day of the event) 415-573-7176
> 10pm-?
> $10 suggested donation
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> festivities!
> Hope to see you there!
>
> Cheers
>
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Dare I say it on SF Raves, but .... in addition to these fun club events and 
live shows and whatnot ...  there actually is a RAVE Saturday night and nobody 
has mentioned it. It's put on by the same people who did Scooby Snax 1 and 2. 
The lineup includes Crackerjack, Go-Zania, Michael Liu, Liam Shy, Sideshow, 
and a bunch of other people. The Info Line (updated) is (925) 262-8217.  It'll 
be a full house, I'm sure. 

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I didn't mention the name ... It's "Foul Play N Funland" and the crew is 
Mistere Machine.

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I want to do more raving this weekend but like with
dnb, or breaks, or or tech house or something. rarrr
someone do something like this plz kthx bye

-D.

--- JonnyR@aol.com wrote:

> Dare I say it on SF Raves, but .... in addition to
> these fun club events and 
> live shows and whatnot ...  there actually is a RAVE
> Saturday night and nobody 
> has mentioned it. It's put on by the same people who
> did Scooby Snax 1 and 2. 
> The lineup includes Crackerjack, Go-Zania, Michael
> Liu, Liam Shy, Sideshow, 
> and a bunch of other people. The Info Line (updated)
> is (925) 262-8217.  It'll 
> be a full house, I'm sure. 
> 


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>I want to do more raving this weekend but like with
> dnb, or breaks, or or tech house or something. rarrr
> someone do something like this plz kthx bye
> 
> -D.
> 
> --- JonnyR@aol.com wrote:
> 
>> Dare I say it on SF Raves, but .... in addition to
>> these fun club events and 
>> live shows and whatnot ...  there actually is a RAVE
>> Saturday night and nobody 
>> has mentioned it. It's put on by the same people who
>> did Scooby Snax 1 and 2. 
>> The lineup includes Crackerjack, Go-Zania, Michael
>> Liu, Liam Shy, Sideshow, 
>> and a bunch of other people. The Info Line (updated)
>> is (925) 262-8217.  It'll 
>> be a full house, I'm sure. 
>> 
> 
> 
> a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and packing my bongloads!
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it's not on Saturday, but on Friday night Evil Breaks is cohosting
Mighty Breaks with the Angels of Bass.  our special guest is Jez from
The Autobots.  we brought him out nearly two years ago at Jelly's for
one of our Dirty parties.  he rocks!

it's Friday with $5 presales and $10 at the door.

www.evilbreaks.com

also, Sunday is my birthday and i'll be playing at the Shishka Beats
day party at Bunny Meadows in Golden Gate park!  please come by and
spank me.



On 8/16/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I want to do more raving this weekend but like with
> dnb, or breaks, or or tech house or something. rarrr
> someone do something like this plz kthx bye
>
> -D.
>
> --- JonnyR@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Dare I say it on SF Raves, but .... in addition to
> > these fun club events and
> > live shows and whatnot ...  there actually is a RAVE
> > Saturday night and nobody
> > has mentioned it. It's put on by the same people who
> > did Scooby Snax 1 and 2.
> > The lineup includes Crackerjack, Go-Zania, Michael
> > Liu, Liam Shy, Sideshow,
> > and a bunch of other people. The Info Line (updated)
> > is (925) 262-8217.  It'll
> > be a full house, I'm sure.
> >
>
>
> a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and packing my bongloads!
>
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> yahoo= velouria83
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August 12th:  Obsoleet
August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] what's up this Saturday?

I'd heard about this one...anyone have any info on the promoters?   I'm not too excited about the $20 door charge.  

I also note the info line is 925, does that mean this is in Contra Costa somewhere?  I don't think I'm going to be driving over there...

Peter

P.S. What's with the Scooby Do references?  Isn't that played out yet?

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I didn't mention the name ... It's "Foul Play N Funland" and the crew is 
Mistere Machine.




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Subject: Re: [sfraves] what's up this Saturday?

LMFAO

You can't deny me bish! I KEEL JOOOO!!!!!

HEHE

-D.

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> 
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> 
> >I want to do more raving this weekend but like with
> > dnb, or breaks, or or tech house or something.
> rarrr
> > someone do something like this plz kthx bye
> > 
> > -D.
> > 
> > --- JonnyR@aol.com wrote:
> > 
> >> Dare I say it on SF Raves, but .... in addition
> to
> >> these fun club events and 
> >> live shows and whatnot ...  there actually is a
> RAVE
> >> Saturday night and nobody 
> >> has mentioned it. It's put on by the same people
> who
> >> did Scooby Snax 1 and 2. 
> >> The lineup includes Crackerjack, Go-Zania,
> Michael
> >> Liu, Liam Shy, Sideshow, 
> >> and a bunch of other people. The Info Line
> (updated)
> >> is (925) 262-8217.  It'll 
> >> be a full house, I'm sure. 
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> > a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and
> packing my bongloads!
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] lovefest blog coverage

Evil Breaks, Strategik and Afterdark will be having a rocking float in
the parade.  Just wait until you see what we've got.  I promise, it
will blow your mind.

And afterwards, Evil Breaks, Opel and Tantra will be throwing an
incredible afterparty at Somarts with a mind blowing lineup of breaks,
progressive house and psytrance.



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August 12th:  Obsoleet
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] what's up this Saturday?

OH OH OH OH OH OH OH!!!! 

OKAY!!!

I'll give you birfday biotch spankins yay

:D

-D.

--- Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:

> it's not on Saturday, but on Friday night Evil
> Breaks is cohosting
> Mighty Breaks with the Angels of Bass.  our special
> guest is Jez from
> The Autobots.  we brought him out nearly two years
> ago at Jelly's for
> one of our Dirty parties.  he rocks!
> 
> it's Friday with $5 presales and $10 at the door.
> 
> www.evilbreaks.com
> 
> also, Sunday is my birthday and i'll be playing at
> the Shishka Beats
> day party at Bunny Meadows in Golden Gate park! 
> please come by and
> spank me.
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/16/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I want to do more raving this weekend but like
> with
> > dnb, or breaks, or or tech house or something.
> rarrr
> > someone do something like this plz kthx bye
> >
> > -D.
> >
> > --- JonnyR@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > Dare I say it on SF Raves, but .... in addition
> to
> > > these fun club events and
> > > live shows and whatnot ...  there actually is a
> RAVE
> > > Saturday night and nobody
> > > has mentioned it. It's put on by the same people
> who
> > > did Scooby Snax 1 and 2.
> > > The lineup includes Crackerjack, Go-Zania,
> Michael
> > > Liu, Liam Shy, Sideshow,
> > > and a bunch of other people. The Info Line
> (updated)
> > > is (925) 262-8217.  It'll
> > > be a full house, I'm sure.
> > >
> >
> >
> > a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and
> packing my bongloads!
> >
> > aim= junglegurlee510
> > yahoo= velouria83
> > google talk= mskittiecat@gmail.com
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> >
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> 
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> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
> August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
> September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
> October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
> 


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Subject: Re: [sfraves] what's up this Saturday?

YOu're a Leo EWWWWWWWWWWWW
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> it's not on Saturday, but on Friday night Evil Breaks is cohosting
> Mighty Breaks with the Angels of Bass.  our special guest is Jez from
> The Autobots.  we brought him out nearly two years ago at Jelly's for
> one of our Dirty parties.  he rocks!
> 
> it's Friday with $5 presales and $10 at the door.
> 
> www.evilbreaks.com
> 
> also, Sunday is my birthday and i'll be playing at the Shishka Beats
> day party at Bunny Meadows in Golden Gate park!  please come by and
> spank me.
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/16/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I want to do more raving this weekend but like with
>> dnb, or breaks, or or tech house or something. rarrr
>> someone do something like this plz kthx bye
>>
>> -D.
>>
>> --- JonnyR@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> > Dare I say it on SF Raves, but .... in addition to
>> > these fun club events and
>> > live shows and whatnot ...  there actually is a RAVE
>> > Saturday night and nobody
>> > has mentioned it. It's put on by the same people who
>> > did Scooby Snax 1 and 2.
>> > The lineup includes Crackerjack, Go-Zania, Michael
>> > Liu, Liam Shy, Sideshow,
>> > and a bunch of other people. The Info Line (updated)
>> > is (925) 262-8217.  It'll
>> > be a full house, I'm sure.
>> >
>>
>>
>> a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and packing my bongloads!
>>
>> aim= junglegurlee510
>> yahoo= velouria83
>> google talk= mskittiecat@gmail.com
>> MSN @ WORK = velouria83@yahoo.com
>>
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> 
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> http://www.evilbreaks.com
> 
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> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
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> September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
> October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] what's up this Saturday?

as if you couldn't tell?

On 8/16/06, nico <nico@viberation.com> wrote:
> YOu're a Leo EWWWWWWWWWWWW

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bam" <invibe@gmail.com>
> To: "Delia" <velouria83@yahoo.com>
> Cc: <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
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>
> > it's not on Saturday, but on Friday night Evil Breaks is cohosting
> > Mighty Breaks with the Angels of Bass.  our special guest is Jez from
> > The Autobots.  we brought him out nearly two years ago at Jelly's for
> > one of our Dirty parties.  he rocks!
> >
> > it's Friday with $5 presales and $10 at the door.
> >
> > www.evilbreaks.com
> >
> > also, Sunday is my birthday and i'll be playing at the Shishka Beats
> > day party at Bunny Meadows in Golden Gate park!  please come by and
> > spank me.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/16/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> I want to do more raving this weekend but like with
> >> dnb, or breaks, or or tech house or something. rarrr
> >> someone do something like this plz kthx bye
> >>
> >> -D.
> >>
> >> --- JonnyR@aol.com wrote:
> >>
> >> > Dare I say it on SF Raves, but .... in addition to
> >> > these fun club events and
> >> > live shows and whatnot ...  there actually is a RAVE
> >> > Saturday night and nobody
> >> > has mentioned it. It's put on by the same people who
> >> > did Scooby Snax 1 and 2.
> >> > The lineup includes Crackerjack, Go-Zania, Michael
> >> > Liu, Liam Shy, Sideshow,
> >> > and a bunch of other people. The Info Line (updated)
> >> > is (925) 262-8217.  It'll
> >> > be a full house, I'm sure.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and packing my bongloads!
> >>
> >> aim= junglegurlee510
> >> yahoo= velouria83
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> >
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> > August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] what's up this Saturday?

Aries ftw kthx :D

--- nico <nico@viberation.com> wrote:

> YOu're a Leo EWWWWWWWWWWWW
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bam" <invibe@gmail.com>
> To: "Delia" <velouria83@yahoo.com>
> Cc: <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] what's up this Saturday?
> 
> 
> > it's not on Saturday, but on Friday night Evil
> Breaks is cohosting
> > Mighty Breaks with the Angels of Bass.  our
> special guest is Jez from
> > The Autobots.  we brought him out nearly two years
> ago at Jelly's for
> > one of our Dirty parties.  he rocks!
> > 
> > it's Friday with $5 presales and $10 at the door.
> > 
> > www.evilbreaks.com
> > 
> > also, Sunday is my birthday and i'll be playing at
> the Shishka Beats
> > day party at Bunny Meadows in Golden Gate park! 
> please come by and
> > spank me.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 8/16/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> I want to do more raving this weekend but like
> with
> >> dnb, or breaks, or or tech house or something.
> rarrr
> >> someone do something like this plz kthx bye
> >>
> >> -D.
> >>
> >> --- JonnyR@aol.com wrote:
> >>
> >> > Dare I say it on SF Raves, but .... in addition
> to
> >> > these fun club events and
> >> > live shows and whatnot ...  there actually is a
> RAVE
> >> > Saturday night and nobody
> >> > has mentioned it. It's put on by the same
> people who
> >> > did Scooby Snax 1 and 2.
> >> > The lineup includes Crackerjack, Go-Zania,
> Michael
> >> > Liu, Liam Shy, Sideshow,
> >> > and a bunch of other people. The Info Line
> (updated)
> >> > is (925) 262-8217.  It'll
> >> > be a full house, I'm sure.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and
> packing my bongloads!
> >>
> >> aim= junglegurlee510
> >> yahoo= velouria83
> >> google talk= mskittiecat@gmail.com
> >> MSN @ WORK = velouria83@yahoo.com
> >>
> >>
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> > 
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> > August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
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a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and packing my bongloads!

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Subject: [sfraves] BSP: Shishka Beats - Saturday Day Party

Shiska Beats
Bunny Meadows @ Golden Gate Park
noon-sunset

map:
http://invibe.com/eb/ggp_map.jpg

Sunday August 20th StrategiK brings you a beat filled day in Golden
Gate Park. In an
effort to raise funds for our Breaks float at this years Love Fest. We will=
 be
bringing you a day filled with beats and bbq'd shish kabobs in our
favorite spot in
golden gate park. We will be accepting donations for the tasty bbq and
not to worry
there will be plenty of shish kabobs for meat lovers as well as
vegetarians COOKED
ON SEPERATE GRILLS.

DJs will also be donating vinyl to be sold at dirt cheap prices, so
come out to the park and help us raise some money for our soon to be
kick ass float at LoveFest this September.

ALSO BAM, and Karlo will be gracing us with drunken birthday sets to
remember for
long to come. So don't forget to harass these guys on there special day=85
Happy Birthday Bam and Karlo!!

This event is going to take place in the Bunny Meadow in Golden Gate
Park. This is
located on the Fulton side of the park near 6th and 7th streets. Right
behind the
Conservatory of Flowers. Music will start at noon and go untill
sundown... See you
all there...




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DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
http://www.evilbreaks.com

August 12th:  Obsoleet
August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
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I read this as "shiksa" and did a double take. white girl beats?

carry on.

~juju


On 8/16/06, Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Shiska Beats
> Bunny Meadows @ Golden Gate Park
> noon-sunset
>
> map:
> http://invibe.com/eb/ggp_map.jpg
>
> Sunday August 20th StrategiK brings you a beat filled day in Golden
> Gate Park. In an
> effort to raise funds for our Breaks float at this years Love Fest. We
> will be
> bringing you a day filled with beats and bbq'd shish kabobs in our
> favorite spot in
> golden gate park. We will be accepting donations for the tasty bbq and
> not to worry
> there will be plenty of shish kabobs for meat lovers as well as
> vegetarians COOKED
> ON SEPERATE GRILLS.
>
> DJs will also be donating vinyl to be sold at dirt cheap prices, so
> come out to the park and help us raise some money for our soon to be
> kick ass float at LoveFest this September.
>
> ALSO BAM, and Karlo will be gracing us with drunken birthday sets to
> remember for
> long to come. So don't forget to harass these guys on there special day=
=85
> Happy Birthday Bam and Karlo!!
>
> This event is going to take place in the Bunny Meadow in Golden Gate
> Park. This is
> located on the Fulton side of the park near 6th and 7th streets. Right
> behind the
> Conservatory of Flowers. Music will start at noon and go untill
> sundown... See you
> all there...
>
>
>
>
> --
> --------------------------
> < Brandon / DJ Bam >
>
> DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
> http://www.evilbreaks.com
>
> August 12th:  Obsoleet
> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
> August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
> September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
> October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: Shishka Beats - Saturday Day Party

same difference.

just be there!

On 8/16/06, Danielle <takoburrito@gmail.com> wrote:
> I read this as "shiksa" and did a double take. white girl beats?
>
> carry on.
>
> ~juju
>
>
>
> On 8/16/06, Bam < invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> Shiska Beats
> Bunny Meadows @ Golden Gate Park
> noon-sunset
>
> map:
> http://invibe.com/eb/ggp_map.jpg
>
> Sunday August 20th StrategiK brings you a beat filled day in Golden
> Gate Park. In an
> effort to raise funds for our Breaks float at this years Love Fest. We wi=
ll
> be
> bringing you a day filled with beats and bbq'd shish kabobs in our
> favorite spot in
> golden gate park. We will be accepting donations for the tasty bbq and
> not to worry
> there will be plenty of shish kabobs for meat lovers as well as
> vegetarians COOKED
> ON SEPERATE GRILLS.
>
> DJs will also be donating vinyl to be sold at dirt cheap prices, so
> come out to the park and help us raise some money for our soon to be
> kick ass float at LoveFest this September.
>
> ALSO BAM, and Karlo will be gracing us with drunken birthday sets to
> remember for
> long to come. So don't forget to harass these guys on there special day=
=85
> Happy Birthday Bam and Karlo!!
>
> This event is going to take place in the Bunny Meadow in Golden Gate
> Park. This is
> located on the Fulton side of the park near 6th and 7th streets. Right
> behind the
> Conservatory of Flowers. Music will start at noon and go untill
> sundown... See you
> all there...
>
>
>
>
> --
> --------------------------
> < Brandon / DJ Bam >
>
> DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
> http://www.evilbreaks.com
>
> August 12th:  Obsoleet
> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
> August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
> September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
> October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
>
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--------------------------
< Brandon / DJ Bam >

DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
http://www.evilbreaks.com

August 12th:  Obsoleet
August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
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Subject: [sfraves] ASPIRE 8 year.....and into the morning we go!

Looking for the party this saturday...got you covered on Breaks DnB,
Tech house, Hip-Hop and Funk....The Solid Goldiggers are performing
their fabulous burlesque act and there will be art on display for your
viewing pleasure. Not to mention the venue is awesome.....

Invisible Hero Industries presents.....
                       A S P I R E
                         8yr Clelebration
                   Saturday August 19th

Bringing together art music dance and positivity....for a magical
night of laughter and smiles!


Sound Selectors on the main floor
 Nikola Batalya-Blue Collar Entertainment/Tweekin
 Ben Davis-Tweekin Records
 Dj Centipede-CB records
  Raw Deluxe-Live hiphop/funk Phenomenom
      Phleck&Gordo- Live scratch performace
 Upstairs in the loft
 Seth-U.S.S.
 Neptune-Beat Church
  Olliver Vaugn-Progress SF
    Jason White-D.I.P.S./BPM records

 Solid Goldiggers Burlesque troop performances throughout the night
 Deconstruction art exhibit with art of MOTTS- www.opacity.us
 Lights and Lasers by Tribal Existance Lighting...
Featuring two floors of the best in SF music and performance art....
 Full bar,Virgin UG location in SF and a 25th birthday celebration
for Charlie. Bring your dancing shoes and smiles for an event like no
other!

INFO (day of the event) 415-573-7176
10pm-?
$10 suggested donation
All responsible ages welcome!
Feel free to pass this along to anyone you feel would enjoy the festivities!
Hope to see you there!

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Subject: [sfraves] Spin THIS! celebrates 3 years! OFFICIAL GARY NUMAN AFTERPARTY (8-19)

Greetings Dark Electronik music lovers,
This has been a long time coming and a lot of work in the making-
Our 3 Year Anniversary party will be on Saturday, August 19th.
It is going to be all that you have known to dig about Spin THIS!

OFFICIAL GARY NUMAN AFTER-PARTY!!!!!!  BRING YOUR 8/19 CONCERT STUB  
AND GET IN FOR $4!!
WORD FROM  THE ELECTRIC PIONEER('s camp)- IF THINGS WORK OUT, HE WILL  
BE STOPPING BY TO CELEBRATE THE NIGHT WITH US!!!!!!

-In the downtempo room, LIVE performances from Nihil Communication  
and Nezzy Idy (katabatiK).
-On the main floor, guest DJ Donna Matrix (newzbreakz), and LIVE  
performances from Vuxnut and Victo Ecret (both from mechanismz).
-Artistic performances by Pi& Memory (Pyrotation) and
Dalloua Dance Company
-Visuals provided by III, maxMIN (neurogensix), and Ugg the Wanderer
-DTC Residents- Blau, Jawa, Jessic[k]a, pHreaki bOi, Rms,  
TeflonJacket,Wolf

This is to be an incredible night!! One not to be missed!!  Come show  
us some love.......
and we shall show you the dark side of the electronic universe!!!!!!

We will be giving away some very special compilation CDs from the DTC  
resident DJs and bands, available nowhere else.

Mayhem starts at 9pm and goes until 2am
Cost for this event is $4 before 10pm (Or with Gary Numan Ticket stub)
$8 after 10pm
( repeat-come early, you wouldn't want to miss out on the CD)
Well, where is this?
Club Hide 280 7th St. @ Folsom in SF
(Yes, you heard that right.  We're returning home!)
21+ w/ID

http://www.dark-tekno.com/spinthis/
http://dark-tekno.tribe.net/
http://groups.myspace.com/darktekno
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http://www.numan.co.uk/
http://www.myspace.com/djdonnamatrix
http://www.myspace.com/victoecret
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http://www.myspace.com/nezzyidy
http://www.myspace.com/nihil
http://dalloua.com/
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I want to do more raving this weekend but like with
dnb, or breaks, or or tech house or something. rarrr
someone do something like this plz kthx bye

-D.


It's not underground, but try Spin THIS!  We'll have DNB, Jungle,  
Breaks, and whole bunch of other dark n dirty stuff.
Guest DJ= Donna Matrix
More info here-
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Hi, I know a lot of you are into graphic arts and might have a favorite 
printer to recommend (preferably East Bay). 

I designed a color brochure for a small business. Just a simple 8.5 x 11 
sheet folded in two places, color on both sides, on white stock. I used Corel 
Print House and saved to Photoshop PSD format. (Unfortunately I don't have 
Photoshop itself or any actual professional design programs. I'm just an amateur 
helping out a small business.)  

The client is looking for a quote on:
100 brochures
500 brochures (or whatever number gets a better price than 100 brochures)

Thanks, pls email me at jonnyr@aol.com  if you have any recommendations. 
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DO you like the bass?? but can you turn it up? like
this: 
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: Shishka Beats - Saturday Day Party

I am so there! Sounds fun:D

-D.

--- Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:

> Shiska Beats
> Bunny Meadows @ Golden Gate Park
> noon-sunset
> 
> map:
> http://invibe.com/eb/ggp_map.jpg
> 
> Sunday August 20th StrategiK brings you a beat
> filled day in Golden
> Gate Park. In an
> effort to raise funds for our Breaks float at this
> years Love Fest. We will be
> bringing you a day filled with beats and bbq'd shish
> kabobs in our
> favorite spot in
> golden gate park. We will be accepting donations for
> the tasty bbq and
> not to worry
> there will be plenty of shish kabobs for meat lovers
> as well as
> vegetarians COOKED
> ON SEPERATE GRILLS.
> 
> DJs will also be donating vinyl to be sold at dirt
> cheap prices, so
> come out to the park and help us raise some money
> for our soon to be
> kick ass float at LoveFest this September.
> 
> ALSO BAM, and Karlo will be gracing us with drunken
> birthday sets to
> remember for
> long to come. So don't forget to harass these guys
> on there special day…
> Happy Birthday Bam and Karlo!!
> 
> This event is going to take place in the Bunny
> Meadow in Golden Gate
> Park. This is
> located on the Fulton side of the park near 6th and
> 7th streets. Right
> behind the
> Conservatory of Flowers. Music will start at noon
> and go untill
> sundown... See you
> all there...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> --------------------------
> < Brandon / DJ Bam >
> 
> DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
> http://www.evilbreaks.com
> 
> August 12th:  Obsoleet
> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
> August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
> September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
> October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
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Subject: [sfraves] bsp: [KONTROL] with Brian Aneurysm + Jason Short ...SATURDAY!

Saturday, August 19

[ K O N T R O L ]

minimal techno + avant house
every 3rd Saturday at Rx Gallery


featuring from London in his SF debut:


BRIAN ANEURYSM   (aka EchoPilot)

iron box . spectral . poker flat . traum . sub-static
morris audio . immigrant . triebstoff . tic tac toe

Raised in Vienna and schooled in the ways of quality techno in Dallas
in the late 90's, Bernhard Pucher has been DJing and producing for
some of the world's most respected labels (including his own Iron Box
Music) for nearly a decade. These days he lives in London and, when
not performing throughout the world, creates electro/industrial-tinged
tracks as Confutatis, moody minimal techno as EchoPilot, and
deliciously sinister dancefloor tech-house as Brian Aneurysm. Catch
his unique style in this SF debut performance.  www.briananeurysm.com


plus special guest just added!


JASON SHORT  (aka Sattva)

funkycozy . coalition of the killing . auralism records

Recent Miami transplant Jason Short (formerly known as Sattva) caught
our attention last year when we heard some of his outstanding DJ
mixes.  His heady, deep, and dirty blend of minimal and tech-house has
landed him recent slots opening for Damian Lazarus and DJ Traxx, as
well as a permanent spot on the always-solid FunkyCozy roster, the
collective that's brought SF the likes of Pier Bucci, Matt Tolfrey,
Damian Lazarus and many more.  www.funkycozy.com


with [KONTROL] residents:

ALLAND BYALLO  ( liebe*detail . kvadrat produkt . mo's ferry )
SAMMY D  ( classic . dirtybird . utensil )
CRAIG KUNA   ( concept sf . esdjco )


Rx Gallery art exhibition:  Uplifting Vengeance 2006 World Tour

The art this month is INTENSE!  Worth the price of admission alone.

Check out a sneak peek here:
http://www.rxgallery.com/images/artistworks/skinner.jpg

________________________________________________

Rx Gallery
132 Eddy @ Mason, SF / 415.474.7973
9pm-2am / 21+ / $10
________________________________________________


Check our website for full bios, pics and lots FREE music!
http://www.kontrolsf.com

[KONTROL] on MySpace:
http://www.myspace.com/kontrolsf

View the flyer here:
http://www.kontrolsf.com/K15F.jpg
http://www.kontrolsf.com/K15B.jpg

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==== BIOGRAPHIES ====


BRIAN ANEURYSM

Bernhard Pucher has been producing electronic music for almost a
decade.  He started buying records in '96 and ended up getting into
production within the same year.  Inspired by the local dance
community, he started working on his craft in his home town of Vienna,
Austria.  In 1998, he moved to Dallas, Texas where he experienced a
completely new environment for electronic music.  He met a lot of
people who were not just into dance, but also into more experimental
forms of electronica, including down tempo, industrial, breaks, and
hard techno.  This new environment shaped his style, and with the help
of his friend Stefan Anion, he started getting into playing live as
well.  But by 2000, a drastic shift happened. He started teaming up
with mutual techno lover Eric Estornel (aka Maetrik, Mariel Ito) who
then introduced him to a form of music he had not properly experienced
until then: Minimal and Electro. That influenced his musical style so
much that by 2001 he started his own label IRON BOX MUSIC. With his
background in industrial and heavy metal, his minimal sound started to
take shape in its own way.  In 2005, his journey brought him to
London, by then with many releases, remixes and appearances under his
belt on labels like Ai Records, Sub-Static, Spectral, Traum, Morris
Audio, Ware, Onitor, Poker Flat, Tangent Beats, and of course his own
label, Iron Box Music.


JASON SHORT

Jason Short began spinning and producing underground dance music in
1997 in San Francisco.  He soon after relocated to Florida, where he
earned a degree in Recording Engineering and began producing with some
friends as Biogenesis.  His productions caught the attention of
Xplosion and Nepol Records, and eight releases and several remixes
followed. After obtaining his degree, Jason wanted to return to the
roots of house music and moved to Chicago in 2001.  Inspired and
focused, he flourished in the studio and soon found himself djing all
over Chicago.  In 2002, Jason met Hac Le while fighting over the same
vinyl at world famous Gramaphone Records. The two immediately formed a
synergistic musical bond and began dropping mean 2x6x2 (2 mixers 6
turntables 2 djs) tag-team sets which quickly gained them critical
acclaim and a monthly residency in Mexico City with Global Trip.  In
2003, Jason headed to Miami to reconnect with Marc Smith of Biognesis
and work on their next project, Coaltion of the Killing, and develop
their new label, Auralism Records.  He has spent the past two years
honing his skills as a musician, dj, producer, and engineer, traveling
regularly to play with the FunkyCozy crew in San Francisco.  His
vibrations from the decks range from twisted, bass-heavy, floor-moving
techno to flowing, melodic, glitchy downtempo and experimental.  The
sounds are psychedelic and deep, glistening with serotonin-inducing
shimmers and infectious rhythms that push your body into motion.


==== LINKS ====

Website:
http://www.briananeurysm.com

Complete Discography @ Discogs:
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Brian+Aneurysm

Interview:
http://www.inthemix.com.au/features/16642/


==== AUDIO ====

EchoPilot - Emptiness (sample)   (...a KONTROL favorite!)
http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/EchoPilot_-_Emptiness.mp3

Brian Aneurysm - Iron Box Sessions #13 (DJ set)
http://www.ironboxmusic.com/audio/brian_aneurysm_IBS13.mp3


==== REVIEWS ====

Brian Aneurysm - Succubus - Sub-Static

Sub Static return with humorously named Brian Aneurysm who drops 4
tracks of straight up techno hijinks for the heads. Brian hails from
Texas - past releases have been on his own, so hot it hurts, Iron Box
techouse label, as well as Poker Flat and Ware. After his venomously
brilliant double ep "Amplified" (sub static #28), the Texan has now
upgraded his sharp-edged techno funk wrecks to an ugly assed nasty
jacker on the title cut, which doesn't even have to be played
backwards to spread its seductive poison. Diabolic stuff, and great
material for the more darkside inclined clubsound. Damaging.

Echopilot - Fragile EP - Morris Audio CitySport Edition

Produced by Brian Pucher (aka Brian Aneurysm) under his Echopilot
guise, this is akin to taking one part minimal Richie Hawtin and one
part quirky Derrick Carter and one part silky Timewriter; and blending
them together into a deep, minimal concoction.  Simple rhythms,
eclectic (and sometimes disturbing) vocal samples, jazzy stabs and a
ton of atmosphere come together to take you on a journey through the
mind of a mad scientist. This is about as funky and tricked out as
anything you are likely to hear, and one of the best productions of
the year to this point. Exquisite Stuff.

Brian Aneurysm - The End of Logic - Iron Box Music

Bernard Pucher comes back under his alias Brian Aneurysm, opening the
year harder than ever before with a minimal techno stomper. He is
known for his dark and twisted minimal, but on this record, he
combines that with his love for good old techno, and creates an
energy-laden EP called THE END OF LOGIC. The original is distorted,
thick and crunchy with a twisted vocal ...you know, the kind we've
come to love from Brian Aneurysm. The B-Side offers 2dollarEgg-style
thump tracks that combine great production with minimal flavour
resulting in dancefloor mania.

__________________________________________

Upcoming guests:

September 16 : ALEX SMOKE ( Soma . Vakant : Glasgow )
October 21 : AKUFEN ( Perlon . Mutek_Rec : Montreal )

http://www.kontrolsf.com

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Feel the BBBBAAAASSSSSSS baby,

Awesome!  Amazing!  I want to install one in my garage and turn my whole house into a giant speaker.

Peter

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DO you like the bass?? but can you turn it up? like
this: 
http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/incredible-60-inch-subwoofer


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Bay Area Location, August 19, 2006

Presales will be $10, $15 and $20 at the door

Presales sold at:

Solid Grooves 408-298-2225
Reverb 415-221-4142
Skills 510-704-9876
www.Groovetickets.com

Info Line: 925-262-8217


The fabulous DJ's playing will be:


Room 1: Fun Fun Happy Beats 

Go Zania (HCFTP/Hardscience)
Cracker Jack (Nu Vision/Hardheads)
SideShow (HCFTP/DTS/HardHeads)
Valefor (Vkrew/HCFTP)
Rye Bread (DTS)
Neutron (Worm Productions)
Jayzen (Mistere Machine)
Crazy C (Mistere Machine)

Room 2: Charlie's Trance Room


Michael Liu (Illumination Records)
Dr Spook (Geomagnetic, Phoenix Family)
Liam Shy (Nu)
Kulaid (Mistere Machine)
Deckster (UBC)
DT3 (UBC/Ravers Inc.)
Cyberfyed (Motts Productions)
Railway (Independent)



VirginLocation 


I hate to inform you guys but last night we got some bad news. Dr Spook will not be playing the show. He got booked on the east coast and they made him an offer he can't refuse. So lets all wish him luck and a safe trip home. 

Thanks everyone for your opinions. The person taking Spooks spot will be Dutch (Thump Radio) 




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Rye Bread 9-10
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I need her contact info, V if your reading this drop me an email I have 
summmping to ask ya. Or brandeezzzie hook a brotha up with her email or new 
cellie or something.


Thanks.. Please drive through..

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: Symbiosis Gathering

oh yea can't wait for this event, it will not be here soon enough!

Paul



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> Actually,this isn't my BSP but I heard about it so I'mpassing it on to 
> those that might be intrested.  I note Erik Davis is speaking at this 
> event.  I'm a big fan of Erik's and almost fell off the roof at his launch 
> party for his last book.
>
> http://symbiosisgathering.com/music.php
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Subject: [sfraves] BSP: Soma-Tech 2, Saturday August 19th

Come out and party with us at a convenient SF spot.. SoMa-Tech 2 is a free 
UG featuring minimal house/techno, D&B, industrial techno, and some tasty 
club techno.

Lineup:
Lorax (Good Bad Guy, Guadalajara) - Minimal/House
The Duke (Good Bad Guy, LA) -- Minimal/House
Kuze (Still Doin' It, SF) - D&B
Catharsis (EGR Records, SF) -- Industrial-Techno
Christian Fuller (Good Guy Bad Guy, Amsterdam) - Techno
Kevin Knapp (CRuX, SF) Minimal/House

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Subject: [sfraves] ASPIRE 8 year.....and into the morning we go! Saturday

Invisible Hero Industries presents.....
                         A S P I R E
                           8yr Clelebration
                     Saturday August 19th

Bringing together art music dance and positivity....for a magical
night of laughter and smiles!


Sound Selectors on the main floor
 Nikola Batalya-Blue Collar Entertainment/Tweekin
 Ben Davis-Tweekin Records
 Dj Centipede-CB records
    Raw Deluxe-Live hiphop/funk Phenomenom
        Phleck&Gordo- Live scratch performace
 Upstairs in the loft
   Seth-U.S.S.
   Neptune-Beat Church
    Olliver Vaugn-Progress SF
      Jason White-D.I.P.S./BPM records

 Solid Goldiggers Burlesque troop performances throughout the night
 Deconstruction art exhibit with art of MOTTS- www.opacity.us
 Lights and Lasers by Tribal Existance Lighting...
Featuring two floors of the best in SF music and performance art....
 Full bar,Virgin UG location in SF and a 25th birthday celebration
for Charlie. Bring your dancing shoes and smiles for an event like no
other!

2255 3rd st@20th
San Francisco,CA

INFO (day of the event) 415-573-7176
10pm-?
$10 suggested donation

Feel free to pass this on to whomever you think may enjoy the festivities.
Hope to see you all there.

Cheers

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: Symbiosis Gathering

damn, this looks great. thank you for the post!

- bobby

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Subject: [sfraves] burning man ride/camp?

hi people,

this my situation: i have my ticket for burning man, but i don't know
anyone else who is going. this means i have no ride, no camp, no
anything (except, you know, the gear). last year (my first time) my
plans came together at the last minute, but this year--not as much
good fortune. so i'm looking for someone or a group to go with. anyone
want to scoop me up? i'm totally eager to contribute
gas/food/supplies/glowsticks/etc. oh, and chocolate. i work for a
small company that makes artisan chocolate, brownies, marshmallows,
graham crackers (playa s'mores!)... all kinds of yummy stuff. i'm also
a semi-pro photographer with pro equipment. i would document all the
goings-on and give everyone CDs. anyway, yeah, that's me. i live in
san francisco. if you want to call me, my phone number is 443-506-8970
(that's a baltimore area code).

- bobby
http://bobbyburgess.net/journal/

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: Symbiosis Gathering

what is the CCC party this weekend and where?  Anyone have the BSP they 
could forward to me?

7 days to BM.. yeehaw muthafuckas



SFR: Ranger
San Francisco
plurranger@hotmail.com
Who knows where the night leads
It's dark and no one can see





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oh yea can't wait for this event, it will not be here soon enough!

Paul



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>Actually,this isn't my BSP but I heard about it so I'mpassing it on to 
>those that might be intrested.  I note Erik Davis is speaking at this 
>event.  I'm a big fan of Erik's and almost fell off the roof at his launch 
>party for his last book.
>
>http://symbiosisgathering.com/music.php
>
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Subject: [sfraves] ASPIRE 8 YR...saturday....into the night we go

Invisible Hero Industries presents.....
                        A S P I R E
                          8yr Clelebration
                    Saturday August 19th

Bringing together art music dance and positivity....for a magical
night of laughter and smiles!


Sound Selectors on the main floor
 Nikola Batalya-Blue Collar Entertainment/Tweekin
 Ben Davis-Tweekin Records
 Dj Centipede-CB records
   Raw Deluxe-Live hiphop/funk Phenomenom
       Phleck&Gordo- Live scratch performace
 Upstairs in the loft
  Seth-U.S.S.
  Neptune-Beat Church
   Olliver Vaugn-Progress SF
     Jason White-D.I.P.S./BPM records

 Solid Goldiggers Burlesque troop performances throughout the night
 Deconstruction art exhibit with art of MOTTS- www.opacity.us
 Lights and Lasers by Tribal Existance Lighting...
Featuring two floors of the best in SF music and performance art....
 Full bar,Virgin UG location in SF and a 25th birthday celebration
for Charlie. Bring your dancing shoes and smiles for an event like no
other!

2255 3rd st@20th
San Francisco,CA

INFO (day of the event) 415-573-7176
10pm-?
$10 suggested donation

Feel free to pass this on to whomever you think may enjoy the festivities.
Hope to see you all there.

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Subject: [sfraves] OH yeah... late WR's: Full Melt, Telic Day Party,
      & OW @ Oasis Monthly

So a few weeks back, when i la la la la la la la about Full Melt.. well.
.it was a Dope night.. i have to admit.. it was Reallyl Dope... & yes.. I
did bartend for 1/2 that night ;)  I mean... i kinda got mondo yucky 1.2
way through the night, & kinda got put outta commision.. literally :(

But before that.. it was Dope... I mean... like i got there early for set
up.. set up my bar... what was mondo way Groovy Bad Ass was well.. me &
Ripple went to go pick up the headliners, Pinch & Distance, @ the radio
station... then after that.. we went out to eat @ McD's (the line @ In N
OUt was way long) & for like an hour.. we just like talked & ate & like
Pinch & Distance.. really Awesome "English Mates" :)

Now the trippy part about the party was... the main room was aaaaaall
Grime & Dubstep... I mean.. 1 DJ threw down some 2 Step in the middle of
his set.... I think that was SubTek... but it was just trippy... & every1
who was there was totally feelin' it:)  The 2nd room had breaks & that was
fun :)  It was a Dope party & like aalmost eeeveryone from every scene was
there almost :)

Oh yeah.. there's pictures of me & my sisters in the album 'cause there
wre here that weekend for my Cousin's 18th Bday Shindig i ditched out on
to go to Full Melt...


http://s54.photobucket.com/albums/g100/MadWicked/Full%20Melt%207-29-2006/

The next weekend... I went to the Telic Day Party... it was fun... like it
was @ Lake Elizabeth in Freemont.. OK.. so that park.. Hello 2day.. got
HUUUUGE!!  LIke last time i was there was for ASR's last Day party ummm..
2 1/2 years ago... so yeah... it got bigger!

The music throughout when i was there was Happy HArdcore. house, breaks,
trance, 80's, some old school hop hop, & Jungle!  It was Dope!  It was
also Groovy seein' my Candy Fam again!  YAAAAAY

Oh yeah.. there was also like mondo BBQ action goin' on :)  Made some beef
that i stole ffrom my Mom's tupperware in the fridge.. lol :X  Si that
Dope!!!

Statyed there 'til about like 8 something & like Ms DJ D gave me a ride to
Oakland where i went to the OtherWorld Shindig for the Label Record
Release, "Oaklyn" I think the label's called... WOW.. such a fun night...
OK.. 1st off.. this Dude i met like a year & 1/2 ago, Uriah, who i talk to
on AIM & On the phone all the time, was there... lol.. i met him like
before he enrolled @ that school in Emeryville...

But yeah... oh my gosh.. so the music was Sick... there 1 Dude.. strait up
played old skool hop hop, 80's electro yummy, & man... i danced hard that
night!  Oh yeah.. they also had like all these comedians perform.. i
thouhgt only 2 of them were Hella funny... but they were all good!  Then
there was this live singer Chic who sang & rapped!  It was Dope!!!  Really
Dope night!

http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l188/YummyBeats/Telic%20OtherWorld%208-5-2006/

but in all honesty.. i'm still kinda high off last weekend & Obsoleet...
man... loloololmao.. Hello 2day... best fuckin' night in a long time!!! 
YAAAY!!  :)  But ya know.. i never feel complete until i posted up where i
been groovin' lately:)  Love Ya Ravers!


-- 
Take Care <3
Peace=->Jus' Me =-> O§bY {8O)





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hey burners on sfr...

hey i can vouch for bobby, he is great person and really nice when it comes to gas :) unfortunetly i'm not going to the playa this year...so if any of you..which i know are going, pls find it in your burner heart to help him out ...

bobby: i'm gonna see if any of my other buds have room and stuff for you..

lots of love ..
~adriana

Bobby Burgess <bobbyburgess@gmail.com> wrote: hi people,

this my situation: i have my ticket for burning man, but i don't know
anyone else who is going. this means i have no ride, no camp, no
anything (except, you know, the gear). last year (my first time) my
plans came together at the last minute, but this year--not as much
good fortune. so i'm looking for someone or a group to go with. anyone
want to scoop me up? i'm totally eager to contribute
gas/food/supplies/glowsticks/etc. oh, and chocolate. i work for a
small company that makes artisan chocolate, brownies, marshmallows,
graham crackers (playa s'mores!)... all kinds of yummy stuff. i'm also
a semi-pro photographer with pro equipment. i would document all the
goings-on and give everyone CDs. anyway, yeah, that's me. i live in
san francisco. if you want to call me, my phone number is 443-506-8970
(that's a baltimore area code).

- bobby
http://bobbyburgess.net/journal/

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Subject: RE: [sfraves] OH yeah... late WR's: Full Melt, Telic Day Party, & OW @ Oasis
 Monthly

Full Melt.. probably one of the sickest parties I have been to in a long 
time.. could not tear myself away from the main room for more than 5 
minutes.  Ripple's set was one of the most amazing sets I have ever heard, 
period.  The K probably helped.. but ya.. it was wicked fucking good shit!

My favorite part of the night was around 5am.. the walls were all blacked 
out, no light, co2 pumping into the room, lasers going off in every 
direction, music dripping from the ceiling in tangible sticky ways.. and 
then there was this one woman, cute as hell, in braids and a little school 
girl dress.. prancing around like she was on a horse.  I like to call her 
PonyGirl.  At one point she was galloping in place in front of me, looking 
back to make sure I noticed, and then galloped off.. omg.. I just wanted to 
ride her so bad..lol!

Ya.. I was fully melted after that night.. drivin home at 6am :)



SFR: Ranger
San Francisco
plurranger@hotmail.com
Who knows where the night leads
It's dark and no one can see





From: "Osby Oi Oi Jamz" <osby@viberation.com>
Reply-To: osby@viberation.com
To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
Subject: [sfraves] OH yeah... late WR's: Full Melt, Telic Day Party,      & 
OW @ Oasis Monthly
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 04:31:52 -0700 (PDT)

So a few weeks back, when i la la la la la la la about Full Melt.. well.
.it was a Dope night.. i have to admit.. it was Reallyl Dope... & yes.. I
did bartend for 1/2 that night ;)  I mean... i kinda got mondo yucky 1.2
way through the night, & kinda got put outta commision.. literally :(

But before that.. it was Dope... I mean... like i got there early for set
up.. set up my bar... what was mondo way Groovy Bad Ass was well.. me &
Ripple went to go pick up the headliners, Pinch & Distance, @ the radio
station... then after that.. we went out to eat @ McD's (the line @ In N
OUt was way long) & for like an hour.. we just like talked & ate & like
Pinch & Distance.. really Awesome "English Mates" :)

Now the trippy part about the party was... the main room was aaaaaall
Grime & Dubstep... I mean.. 1 DJ threw down some 2 Step in the middle of
his set.... I think that was SubTek... but it was just trippy... & every1
who was there was totally feelin' it:)  The 2nd room had breaks & that was
fun :)  It was a Dope party & like aalmost eeeveryone from every scene was
there almost :)

Oh yeah.. there's pictures of me & my sisters in the album 'cause there
wre here that weekend for my Cousin's 18th Bday Shindig i ditched out on
to go to Full Melt...


http://s54.photobucket.com/albums/g100/MadWicked/Full%20Melt%207-29-2006/

The next weekend... I went to the Telic Day Party... it was fun... like it
was @ Lake Elizabeth in Freemont.. OK.. so that park.. Hello 2day.. got
HUUUUGE!!  LIke last time i was there was for ASR's last Day party ummm..
2 1/2 years ago... so yeah... it got bigger!

The music throughout when i was there was Happy HArdcore. house, breaks,
trance, 80's, some old school hop hop, & Jungle!  It was Dope!  It was
also Groovy seein' my Candy Fam again!  YAAAAAY

Oh yeah.. there was also like mondo BBQ action goin' on :)  Made some beef
that i stole ffrom my Mom's tupperware in the fridge.. lol :X  Si that
Dope!!!

Statyed there 'til about like 8 something & like Ms DJ D gave me a ride to
Oakland where i went to the OtherWorld Shindig for the Label Record
Release, "Oaklyn" I think the label's called... WOW.. such a fun night...
OK.. 1st off.. this Dude i met like a year & 1/2 ago, Uriah, who i talk to
on AIM & On the phone all the time, was there... lol.. i met him like
before he enrolled @ that school in Emeryville...

But yeah... oh my gosh.. so the music was Sick... there 1 Dude.. strait up
played old skool hop hop, 80's electro yummy, & man... i danced hard that
night!  Oh yeah.. they also had like all these comedians perform.. i
thouhgt only 2 of them were Hella funny... but they were all good!  Then
there was this live singer Chic who sang & rapped!  It was Dope!!!  Really
Dope night!

http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l188/YummyBeats/Telic%20OtherWorld%208-5-2006/

but in all honesty.. i'm still kinda high off last weekend & Obsoleet...
man... loloololmao.. Hello 2day... best fuckin' night in a long time!!!
YAAAY!!  :)  But ya know.. i never feel complete until i posted up where i
been groovin' lately:)  Love Ya Ravers!


--
Take Care <3
Peace=->Jus' Me =-> O§bY {8O)





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Subject: RE: [sfraves] Neural Toxicity Sucks

My brain is just searing in the fuzzies, forgot to take my vit C, I am 
sweating and stuck in stupid.  Why do we do the things we do?

Just sayin!

R~


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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: Symbiosis Gathering



Its not really a CCC party.. some friends from different old-skool* psytrance
collectives are doing a camping party.  Please email if you are interested in
details.

-troy

*"old-skool" sounds so much cooler than "old"

On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 08:24:30PM -0700, Ranger - wrote:
> what is the CCC party this weekend and where?  Anyone have the BSP they 
> could forward to me?
> 
> 7 days to BM.. yeehaw muthafuckas
> 
> 
> 
> SFR: Ranger
> San Francisco
> plurranger@hotmail.com
> Who knows where the night leads
> It's dark and no one can see
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: "G.A.M.M.A." <gamma@techno-truth.com>
> To: <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: Symbiosis Gathering
> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 00:02:08 -0700
> 
> oh yea can't wait for this event, it will not be here soon enough!
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> To: <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 9:15 PM
> Subject: [sfraves] BSP: Symbiosis Gathering
> 
> 
> >Actually,this isn't my BSP but I heard about it so I'mpassing it on to 
> >those that might be intrested.  I note Erik Davis is speaking at this 
> >event.  I'm a big fan of Erik's and almost fell off the roof at his launch 
> >party for his last book.
> >
> >http://symbiosisgathering.com/music.php
> >
> >
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: Symbiosis Gathering

Didn't CCC used to have a website?  I can't find one but I seem to remember checking it out after accidentally finding it through the Shpongle site.  

Maybe I'm mistaken.

Peter

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Its not really a CCC party.. some friends from different old-skool* psytrance
collectives are doing a camping party.  Please email if you are interested in
details.

-troy

*"old-skool" sounds so much cooler than "old"

On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 08:24:30PM -0700, Ranger - wrote:
> what is the CCC party this weekend and where?  Anyone have the BSP they 
> could forward to me?
> 
> 7 days to BM.. yeehaw muthafuckas
> 
> 
> 
> SFR: Ranger
> San Francisco
> plurranger@hotmail.com
> Who knows where the night leads
> It's dark and no one can see
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> From: "G.A.M.M.A." <gamma@techno-truth.com>
> To: <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: Symbiosis Gathering
> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 00:02:08 -0700
> 
> oh yea can't wait for this event, it will not be here soon enough!
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> 
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> >Actually,this isn't my BSP but I heard about it so I'mpassing it on to 
> >those that might be intrested.  I note Erik Davis is speaking at this 
> >event.  I'm a big fan of Erik's and almost fell off the roof at his launch 
> >party for his last book.
> >
> >http://symbiosisgathering.com/music.php
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My housemate and I are definatley going, probably heading down there around 
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http://www.sterngrove.org/
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don't know where i'll be but i hope to make it to
stern grove on sunday!!!! and then after that shiska
beats at bunny meadow!!!

--- Danny Picard <blooshaman@hotmail.com> wrote:

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] ozomatli @ Stern Grove this sunday!

Prolly see you at both ;)




>From: Layla Lewis <layla6942@yahoo.com>
>To: Danny Picard <blooshaman@hotmail.com>, sfraves@hyperreal.org
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>don't know where i'll be but i hope to make it to
>stern grove on sunday!!!! and then after that shiska
>beats at bunny meadow!!!
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>--- Danny Picard <blooshaman@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] ozomatli @ Stern Grove this sunday!

what do you look like again?
bring whiskey

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>Prolly see you at both ;)
>
>
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>>From: Layla Lewis <layla6942@yahoo.com>
>>To: Danny Picard <blooshaman@hotmail.com>, sfraves@hyperreal.org
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>>Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:08:41 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>>don't know where i'll be but i hope to make it to
>>stern grove on sunday!!!! and then after that shiska
>>beats at bunny meadow!!!
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What's the cheapest place to get CDs made, with printing on the  front?
 
Thinking around 200 quantity.
 
Thanks in advance. : )
 
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Hey all,
 
Adam (formally DJ Oracle, now Atom Weaver) has a new tech house set  he's 
working on and he would love some feedback! Link is below.
 
_http://www.omniscientrecords.com/a/atomweaver/dopesick.mp3_ 
(http://www.omniscientrecords.com/a/atomweaver/dopesick.mp3) 
 
If you right click and "save as", it should take ~10 minutes to  download.
 
Personally, I'm humping all up on it right now, and I hope that you  like it 
enough to do the same. Wh00p wh00p! :D
 
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] ozomatli @ Stern Grove this sunday!

I look like me...dammit.

;)




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>>Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:17:04 -0700
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>>Prolly see you at both ;)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: Layla Lewis <layla6942@yahoo.com>
>>>To: Danny Picard <blooshaman@hotmail.com>, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>>Subject: Re: [sfraves] ozomatli @ Stern Grove this sunday!
>>>Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:08:41 -0700 (PDT)
>>>
>>>don't know where i'll be but i hope to make it to
>>>stern grove on sunday!!!! and then after that shiska
>>>beats at bunny meadow!!!
>>>
>>>--- Danny Picard <blooshaman@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > My housemate and I are definatley going, probably
>>> > heading down there around
>>> > 10am-ish, depending on if we get a grip of peeps to
>>> > go.
>>> > http://www.sterngrove.org/
>>> > anyone wanna go?
>>> > Picnics and FUN!
>>> > and OZOMATLI!!!!
>>> >
>>> > Danny
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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Episode 15!  Can you believe it?

We're looking forward to another killer show!

Expect some deep, dark, heavy, pretty and intense minimal techno and
tech-house blended together in a very unique way.  Fans of our Troy Pierce
show in January will definitely dig!  If you're not afraid of a little
darkness in your funk, you're in for quite a treat. Make sure to check out
the ridiculously awesome EchoPilot track (in the audio section below) to get
a taste of what you're in for.

Also of note is that the art this month is really worth seeing!  Great
stuff.

Hope to see some of you there.

____________________________________


Saturday, August 19

[ K O N T R O L ]

minimal techno + avant house
every 3rd Saturday at Rx Gallery


featuring from London in his SF debut:


BRIAN ANEURYSM   (aka EchoPilot)

iron box . spectral . poker flat . traum . sub-static
morris audio . immigrant . triebstoff . tic tac toe

Raised in Vienna and schooled in the ways of quality techno in Dallas in the
late 90's, Bernhard Pucher has been DJing and producing for some of the
world's most respected labels (including his own Iron Box Music) for nearly
a decade. These days he lives in London and, when not performing throughout
the world, creates electro/industrial-tinged tracks as Confutatis, moody
minimal techno as EchoPilot, and deliciously sinister dancefloor tech-house
as Brian Aneurysm. Catch his unique style in this SF debut performance.
www.briananeurysm.com


plus special guest just added!


JASON SHORT  (aka Sattva)

funkycozy . coalition of the killing . auralism records

Recent Miami transplant Jason Short (formerly known as Sattva) caught our
attention last year when we heard some of his outstanding DJ mixes.  His
heady, deep, and dirty blend of minimal and tech-house has landed him recent
slots opening for Damian Lazarus and DJ Traxx, as well as a permanent spot
on the always-solid FunkyCozy roster, the collective that's brought SF the
likes of Pier Bucci, Matt Tolfrey, Damian Lazarus and many more.
www.funkycozy.com


with [KONTROL] residents:

ALLAND BYALLO  ( liebe*detail . kvadrat produkt . mo's ferry )
SAMMY D  ( classic . dirtybird . utensil )
CRAIG KUNA   ( concept sf . esdjco )


Rx Gallery art exhibition:  Uplifting Vengeance 2006 World Tour

The art this month is INTENSE!  Don't miss it.

Check out a sneak peek here:
http://www.rxgallery.com/images/artistworks/skinner.jpg

________________________________________________

Rx Gallery
132 Eddy @ Mason, SF / 415.474.7973
9pm-2am / 21+ / $10
________________________________________________


Check our website for full bios, pics and lots FREE music!
http://www.kontrolsf.com

[KONTROL] on MySpace:
http://www.myspace.com/kontrolsf

View the flyer here:
http://www.kontrolsf.com/K15F.jpg
http://www.kontrolsf.com/K15B.jpg

________________________________________________


==== BIOGRAPHIES ====


BRIAN ANEURYSM

Bernhard Pucher has been producing electronic music for almost a decade.  He
started buying records in '96 and ended up getting into production within
the same year.  Inspired by the local dance community, he started working on
his craft in his home town of Vienna, Austria.  In 1998, he moved to Dallas,
Texas where he experienced a completely new environment for electronic
music.  He met a lot of people who were not just into dance, but also into
more experimental forms of electronica, including down tempo, industrial,
breaks, and hard techno.  This new environment shaped his style, and with
the help of his friend Stefan Anion, he started getting into playing live as
well.  But by 2000, a drastic shift happened. He started teaming up with
mutual techno lover Eric Estornel (aka Maetrik, Mariel Ito) who then
introduced him to a form of music he had not properly experienced until
then: Minimal and Electro. That influenced his musical style so much that by
2001 he started his own label IRON BOX MUSIC. With his background in
industrial and heavy metal, his minimal sound started to take shape in its
own way.  In 2005, his journey brought him to London, by then with many
releases, remixes and appearances under his belt on labels like Ai Records,
Sub-Static, Spectral, Traum, Morris Audio, Ware, Onitor, Poker Flat, Tangent
Beats, and of course his own label, Iron Box Music.


JASON SHORT

Jason Short began spinning and producing underground dance music in 1997 in
San Francisco.  He soon after relocated to Florida, where he earned a degree
in Recording Engineering and began producing with some friends as
Biogenesis.  His productions caught the attention of Xplosion and Nepol
Records, and eight releases and several remixes followed. After obtaining
his degree, Jason wanted to return to the roots of house music and moved to
Chicago in 2001.  Inspired and focused, he flourished in the studio and soon
found himself djing all over Chicago.  In 2002, Jason met Hac Le while
fighting over the same vinyl at world famous Gramaphone Records. The two
immediately formed a synergistic musical bond and began dropping mean 2x6x2
(2 mixers 6 turntables 2 djs) tag-team sets which quickly gained them
critical acclaim and a monthly residency in Mexico City with Global Trip.
In 2003, Jason headed to Miami to reconnect with Marc Smith of Biognesis and
work on their next project, Coaltion of the Killing, and develop their new
label, Auralism Records.  He has spent the past two years honing his skills
as a musician, dj, producer, and engineer, traveling regularly to play with
the FunkyCozy crew in San Francisco.  His vibrations from the decks range
from twisted, bass-heavy, floor-moving techno to flowing, melodic, glitchy
downtempo and experimental.  The sounds are psychedelic and deep, glistening
with serotonin-inducing shimmers and infectious rhythms that push your body
into motion.


==== LINKS ====

Website:
http://www.briananeurysm.com

Complete Discography @ Discogs:
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Brian+Aneurysm

Interview:
http://www.inthemix.com.au/features/16642/


==== AUDIO ====

EchoPilot - Emptiness (sample)   (...a KONTROL favorite!)
http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/EchoPilot_-_Emptiness.mp3

Brian Aneurysm - Iron Box Sessions #13 (DJ set)
http://www.ironboxmusic.com/audio/brian_aneurysm_IBS13.mp3


==== REVIEWS ====

Brian Aneurysm - Succubus - Sub-Static

Sub Static return with humorously named Brian Aneurysm who drops 4 tracks of
straight up techno hijinks for the heads. Brian hails from Texas - past
releases have been on his own, so hot it hurts, Iron Box techouse label, as
well as Poker Flat and Ware. After his venomously brilliant double ep
"Amplified" (sub static #28), the Texan has now upgraded his sharp-edged
techno funk wrecks to an ugly assed nasty jacker on the title cut, which
doesn't even have to be played backwards to spread its seductive poison.
Diabolic stuff, and great material for the more darkside inclined clubsound.
Damaging.

Echopilot - Fragile EP - Morris Audio CitySport Edition

Produced by Brian Pucher (aka Brian Aneurysm) under his Echopilot guise,
this is akin to taking one part minimal Richie Hawtin and one part quirky
Derrick Carter and one part silky Timewriter; and blending them together
into a deep, minimal concoction.  Simple rhythms, eclectic (and sometimes
disturbing) vocal samples, jazzy stabs and a ton of atmosphere come together
to take you on a journey through the mind of a mad scientist. This is about
as funky and tricked out as anything you are likely to hear, and one of the
best productions of the year to this point. Exquisite Stuff.

Brian Aneurysm - The End of Logic - Iron Box Music

Bernard Pucher comes back under his alias Brian Aneurysm, opening the year
harder than ever before with a minimal techno stomper. He is known for his
dark and twisted minimal, but on this record, he combines that with his love
for good old techno, and creates an energy-laden EP called THE END OF LOGIC.
The original is distorted, thick and crunchy with a twisted vocal ...you
know, the kind we've come to love from Brian Aneurysm. The B-Side offers
2dollarEgg-style thump tracks that combine great production with minimal
flavour resulting in dancefloor mania.

__________________________________________

Upcoming guests:

September 16 : ALEX SMOKE - live! ( Soma . Vakant : Glasgow )
October 21 : AKUFEN ( Perlon . Mutek_Rec : Montreal )

http://www.kontrolsf.com

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Although I can walk to Stern Grove from my house, since we are going out tomorrow night I'm not sure I'll be doing much walking Sunday.  I think I might crawl over to Bunny Meadow for Shiska Beats later tho.

What does Marc(o) look like?  You can scope this picture: http://netamp.com/artists/marco.php but I'm not sure I would have recognized him from that.  

He'll be the guy carrying the whiskey. ;)

Peace,

Peter

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I look like me...dammit.

;)




>From: "Danny Picard" <blooshaman@hotmail.com>
>To: electrofunk138@hotmail.com, layla6942@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] ozomatli @ Stern Grove this sunday!
>Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:25:08 -0700
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>what do you look like again?
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>Dan-0
>
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>>From: "Van Mundegaarde" <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
>>To: layla6942@yahoo.com, blooshaman@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: Re: [sfraves] ozomatli @ Stern Grove this sunday!
>>Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:17:04 -0700
>>
>>Prolly see you at both ;)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: Layla Lewis <layla6942@yahoo.com>
>>>To: Danny Picard <blooshaman@hotmail.com>, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>>Subject: Re: [sfraves] ozomatli @ Stern Grove this sunday!
>>>Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:08:41 -0700 (PDT)
>>>
>>>don't know where i'll be but i hope to make it to
>>>stern grove on sunday!!!! and then after that shiska
>>>beats at bunny meadow!!!
>>>
>>>--- Danny Picard <blooshaman@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > My housemate and I are definatley going, probably
>>> > heading down there around
>>> > 10am-ish, depending on if we get a grip of peeps to
>>> > go.
>>> > http://www.sterngrove.org/
>>> > anyone wanna go?
>>> > Picnics and FUN!
>>> > and OZOMATLI!!!!
>>> >
>>> > Danny
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Vergoofin der flicke stoobin mit der brk-brk
>>> > yubetcha!" -Swedish Chef
>>> >
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] ozomatli @ Stern Grove this sunday!

Oh wait, here's a much more accurate photo: http://mylai.com/seered/morphis/obsoleet/images/DSC_0492.jpg

Sort of a cross between Elmo and Brad Pitt only with better facial hair. ;)

Peter



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Subject: Re: [sfraves] ozomatli @ Stern Grove this sunday!

Although I can walk to Stern Grove from my house, since we are going out tomorrow night I'm not sure I'll be doing much walking Sunday.  I think I might crawl over to Bunny Meadow for Shiska Beats later tho.

What does Marc(o) look like?  You can scope this picture: http://netamp.com/artists/marco.php but I'm not sure I would have recognized him from that.  

He'll be the guy carrying the whiskey. ;)

Peace,

Peter

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I look like me...dammit.

;)




>From: "Danny Picard" <blooshaman@hotmail.com>
>To: electrofunk138@hotmail.com, layla6942@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] ozomatli @ Stern Grove this sunday!
>Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:25:08 -0700
>
>what do you look like again?
>bring whiskey
>
>Dan-0
>
>
>
>"Vergoofin der flicke stoobin mit der brk-brk
>yubetcha!" -Swedish Chef
>
>http://www.myspace.com/spiffythewarrior
>http://people.tribe.net/spiffy
>AIM --->spiffythewarrior
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>>From: "Van Mundegaarde" <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
>>To: layla6942@yahoo.com, blooshaman@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: Re: [sfraves] ozomatli @ Stern Grove this sunday!
>>Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:17:04 -0700
>>
>>Prolly see you at both ;)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: Layla Lewis <layla6942@yahoo.com>
>>>To: Danny Picard <blooshaman@hotmail.com>, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>>Subject: Re: [sfraves] ozomatli @ Stern Grove this sunday!
>>>Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:08:41 -0700 (PDT)
>>>
>>>don't know where i'll be but i hope to make it to
>>>stern grove on sunday!!!! and then after that shiska
>>>beats at bunny meadow!!!
>>>
>>>--- Danny Picard <blooshaman@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > My housemate and I are definatley going, probably
>>> > heading down there around
>>> > 10am-ish, depending on if we get a grip of peeps to
>>> > go.
>>> > http://www.sterngrove.org/
>>> > anyone wanna go?
>>> > Picnics and FUN!
>>> > and OZOMATLI!!!!
>>> >
>>> > Danny
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Vergoofin der flicke stoobin mit der brk-brk
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>>> >
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OMFG!  I laughed so hard dr pepper came out of my nose!

http://www.allyoursnakesbelongtous.com/


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<http://eatbrains.com/>http://eatbrains.com/
 
The details: Saturday, Aug 19th, zombies will be storming the corner of Market and Sansome at 2:30p. We will then walk/limp/crawl to Powell Station by 3:00p. There will be a big massacre on Powell between Market and O'Farrel. We'll Pick up stragglers at Union Square by 3:30p. See the <http://eatbrains.com/mob2006/images/mobmap.jpg>Map 

How to participate: Plant yourself somewhere along our route. Show up in plain clothes minus anything of value. Wear a small piece of duct tape (or similar) clearly visible on your torso. Attract our attention somehow. (screaming "aaaiiieeee! zombies!" is good for this). We will attack you, cover you with blood, shred your clothes, and slip you a makeup kit so you can create new zombies. If you want to show up already in zombie gear, great. Just join the mob at any time. 

Rules - Don't attack people who haven't clearly indicated they want to be attacked. Don't get blood on bystanders or their things. 




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House Music 101:  http://livingart.com/raving/articles/housemusic101.htm

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Yeah, I'll get right on that for ya.

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I thought it was my turn?

On 8/19/06, Alex Laughlin <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
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Cooooooooooocoooooooa!!!  Damn Girl... where the fuck you been???  Email
me!!  I miss U HOn!  Long time no talk!  U talk 2 AK lately?
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Before burning man each year, several of us collect folks' 10 and 20 pound
racing nitrous tanks and fill them with pure environmentally friendly sulfur
free NO2 for off street racing purposes out at the black rock desert, or any
off street track. (vehicles on public roads are not permitted to have NO2
tanks installed to boost performance)

NO2 powered art cars with dedicated 10 and 20 pound tanks deliver much
greater performance gains than vehicles utilizing the tiny cream charger
storage devices which cost 5-10 times more.

If you are a "racing" fan and understand what we are providing for racers in
the bay area, please drop an email off list.

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awesome.. no innocent bystanders are to be eaten by zombies, but tourists
are fair game, right? = )

after they came to visit san francisco to be entertained, right?

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Date: Aug 18, 2006 11:24 PM
Subject: [sfraves] BSP:  Zombie Mob Saturday!!!!
To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org


<http://eatbrains.com/>http://eatbrains.com/

The details: Saturday, Aug 19th, zombies will be storming the corner of
Market and Sansome at 2:30p. We will then walk/limp/crawl to Powell Station
by 3:00p. There will be a big massacre on Powell between Market and
O'Farrel. We'll Pick up stragglers at Union Square by 3:30p. See the <
http://eatbrains.com/mob2006/images/mobmap.jpg>Map

How to participate: Plant yourself somewhere along our route. Show up in
plain clothes minus anything of value. Wear a small piece of duct tape (or
similar) clearly visible on your torso. Attract our attention somehow.
(screaming "aaaiiieeee! zombies!" is good for this). We will attack you,
cover you with blood, shred your clothes, and slip you a makeup kit so you
can create new zombies. If you want to show up already in zombie gear,
great. Just join the mob at any time.

Rules - Don't attack people who haven't clearly indicated they want to be
attacked. Don't get blood on bystanders or their things.




MySpace:  http://www.myspace.com/DJApollo

Tribenet:   <http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k>
http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k

House Music 101:  http://livingart.com/raving/articles/housemusic101.htm

"Americans like to talk about (or be told about) Democracy but, when put to
the test, usually find it to be an 'inconvenience.' We have opted instead
for an authoritarian system disguised as a Democracy. We pay through the
nose for an enormous joke-of-a-government, let it push us around, and then
wonder how all those assholes got in there." - Frank Zappa

"Music is prophecy, its style and economic organization are ahead of the
rest of society. It makes audible the new world that will gradually become
visible."
-Jacques Attali in his seminal text "Noise"

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Subject: [sfraves] ASPIRE 8 year .....TONIGHT an adventure in sound and performance!

Invisible Hero Industries presents.....
                            A S P I R E
                              8yr Clelebration
                        Saturday August 19th

Bringing together art music dance and positivity....for a magical
night of laughter and smiles!


Sound Selectors on the main floor
 Nickola Batalya-Blue Collar Entertainment/Tweekin
  Ben Davis-Tweekin Records
    Dj Centipede-CB records
       Raw Deluxe-Live hiphop/funk Phenomenom
           Phleck&Gordo- Live scratch performace
 Upstairs in the loft
      Seth-U.S.S.
      Neptune-Beat Church/Evil Breaks
       Olliver Vaugn-Progress SF
         Jason White-D.I.P.S./BPM records

 Solid Goldiggers Burlesque troop performances throughout the night
 Deconstruction art exhibit with art of MOTTS- www.opacity.us
 Lights and Lasers by Tribal Existance Lighting...
Featuring two floors of the best in SF music and performance art....
 Full bar,Virgin UG location in SF and a 25th birthday celebration
for Charlie. Bring your dancing shoes and smiles for an event like no
other!

2255 3rd st @ 20th
San Francisco, CA. 94117

INFO  415-573-7176
10pm-?
$10 suggested donation

hope to see you all there!
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Subject: [sfraves] Fully Loaded?

Any house heads going to the GGL/Sunset thing tonight?

I think I shall be there at least for a bit.

Peter



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Subject: Re: Fwd: [sfraves] BSP: Zombie Mob Saturday!!!!

Any photos of the zombie massacre?

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awesome.. no innocent bystanders are to be eaten by zombies, but tourists
are fair game, right? = )

after they came to visit san francisco to be entertained, right?

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Subject: [sfraves] BSP:  Zombie Mob Saturday!!!!
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<http://eatbrains.com/>http://eatbrains.com/

The details: Saturday, Aug 19th, zombies will be storming the corner of
Market and Sansome at 2:30p. We will then walk/limp/crawl to Powell Station
by 3:00p. There will be a big massacre on Powell between Market and
O'Farrel. We'll Pick up stragglers at Union Square by 3:30p. See the <
http://eatbrains.com/mob2006/images/mobmap.jpg>Map

How to participate: Plant yourself somewhere along our route. Show up in
plain clothes minus anything of value. Wear a small piece of duct tape (or
similar) clearly visible on your torso. Attract our attention somehow.
(screaming "aaaiiieeee! zombies!" is good for this). We will attack you,
cover you with blood, shred your clothes, and slip you a makeup kit so you
can create new zombies. If you want to show up already in zombie gear,
great. Just join the mob at any time.

Rules - Don't attack people who haven't clearly indicated they want to be
attacked. Don't get blood on bystanders or their things.




MySpace:  http://www.myspace.com/DJApollo

Tribenet:   <http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k>
http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k

House Music 101:  http://livingart.com/raving/articles/housemusic101.htm

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the test, usually find it to be an 'inconvenience.' We have opted instead
for an authoritarian system disguised as a Democracy. We pay through the
nose for an enormous joke-of-a-government, let it push us around, and then
wonder how all those assholes got in there." - Frank Zappa

"Music is prophecy, its style and economic organization are ahead of the
rest of society. It makes audible the new world that will gradually become
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Subject: [sfraves] bsp: Tonight! London's Brian Aneurysm takes [KONTROL]!!!

Episode 15!  Can you believe it?

We're looking forward to another killer show!

Expect some deep, dark, heavy, pretty and intense minimal techno and
tech-house blended together in a very unique way.  Fans of our Troy
Pierce show in January will definitely dig!  If you're not afraid of a
little darkness in your funk, you're in for quite a treat. Make sure
to check out the ridiculously awesome EchoPilot track (in the audio
section below) to get a taste of what you're in for.

Also of note is that the art this month is really worth seeing!  Great stuff.

Hope to see some of you there.

____________________________________


Saturday, August 19

[ K O N T R O L ]

minimal techno + avant house
every 3rd Saturday at Rx Gallery


featuring from London in his SF debut:


BRIAN ANEURYSM   (aka EchoPilot)

iron box . spectral . poker flat . traum . sub-static
morris audio . immigrant . triebstoff . tic tac toe

Raised in Vienna and schooled in the ways of quality techno in Dallas
in the late 90's, Bernhard Pucher has been DJing and producing for
some of the world's most respected labels (including his own Iron Box
Music) for nearly a decade. These days he lives in London and, when
not performing throughout the world, creates electro/industrial-tinged
tracks as Confutatis, moody minimal techno as EchoPilot, and
deliciously sinister dancefloor tech-house as Brian Aneurysm. Catch
his unique style in this SF debut performance.  www.briananeurysm.com


plus special guest just added!


JASON SHORT  (aka Sattva)

funkycozy . coalition of the killing . auralism records

Recent Miami transplant Jason Short (formerly known as Sattva) caught
our attention last year when we heard some of his outstanding DJ
mixes.  His heady, deep, and dirty blend of minimal and tech-house has
landed him recent slots opening for Damian Lazarus and DJ Traxx, as
well as a permanent spot on the always-solid FunkyCozy roster, the
collective that's brought SF the likes of Pier Bucci, Matt Tolfrey,
Damian Lazarus and many more.  www.funkycozy.com


with [KONTROL] residents:

ALLAND BYALLO  ( liebe*detail . kvadrat produkt . mo's ferry )
SAMMY D  ( classic . dirtybird . utensil )
CRAIG KUNA   ( concept sf . esdjco )


Rx Gallery art exhibition:  Uplifting Vengeance 2006 World Tour

The art this month is INTENSE!  Don't miss it.

Check out a sneak peek here:
http://www.rxgallery.com/images/artistworks/skinner.jpg

________________________________________________

Rx Gallery
132 Eddy @ Mason, SF / 415.474.7973
9pm-2am / 21+ / $10
________________________________________________


Check our website for full bios, pics and lots FREE music!
http://www.kontrolsf.com

[KONTROL] on MySpace:
http://www.myspace.com/kontrolsf

View the flyer here:
http://www.kontrolsf.com/K15F.jpg
http://www.kontrolsf.com/K15B.jpg

________________________________________________


==== BIOGRAPHIES ====


BRIAN ANEURYSM

Bernhard Pucher has been producing electronic music for almost a
decade.  He started buying records in '96 and ended up getting into
production within the same year.  Inspired by the local dance
community, he started working on his craft in his home town of Vienna,
Austria.  In 1998, he moved to Dallas, Texas where he experienced a
completely new environment for electronic music.  He met a lot of
people who were not just into dance, but also into more experimental
forms of electronica, including down tempo, industrial, breaks, and
hard techno.  This new environment shaped his style, and with the help
of his friend Stefan Anion, he started getting into playing live as
well.  But by 2000, a drastic shift happened. He started teaming up
with mutual techno lover Eric Estornel (aka Maetrik, Mariel Ito) who
then introduced him to a form of music he had not properly experienced
until then: Minimal and Electro. That influenced his musical style so
much that by 2001 he started his own label IRON BOX MUSIC. With his
background in industrial and heavy metal, his minimal sound started to
take shape in its own way.  In 2005, his journey brought him to
London, by then with many releases, remixes and appearances under his
belt on labels like Ai Records, Sub-Static, Spectral, Traum, Morris
Audio, Ware, Onitor, Poker Flat, Tangent Beats, and of course his own
label, Iron Box Music.


JASON SHORT

Jason Short began spinning and producing underground dance music in
1997 in San Francisco.  He soon after relocated to Florida, where he
earned a degree in Recording Engineering and began producing with some
friends as Biogenesis.  His productions caught the attention of
Xplosion and Nepol Records, and eight releases and several remixes
followed. After obtaining his degree, Jason wanted to return to the
roots of house music and moved to Chicago in 2001.  Inspired and
focused, he flourished in the studio and soon found himself djing all
over Chicago.  In 2002, Jason met Hac Le while fighting over the same
vinyl at world famous Gramaphone Records. The two immediately formed a
synergistic musical bond and began dropping mean 2x6x2 (2 mixers 6
turntables 2 djs) tag-team sets which quickly gained them critical
acclaim and a monthly residency in Mexico City with Global Trip.  In
2003, Jason headed to Miami to reconnect with Marc Smith of Biognesis
and work on their next project, Coaltion of the Killing, and develop
their new label, Auralism Records.  He has spent the past two years
honing his skills as a musician, dj, producer, and engineer, traveling
regularly to play with the FunkyCozy crew in San Francisco.  His
vibrations from the decks range from twisted, bass-heavy, floor-moving
techno to flowing, melodic, glitchy downtempo and experimental.  The
sounds are psychedelic and deep, glistening with serotonin-inducing
shimmers and infectious rhythms that push your body into motion.


==== LINKS ====

Website:
http://www.briananeurysm.com

Complete Discography @ Discogs:
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Brian+Aneurysm

Interview:
http://www.inthemix.com.au/features/16642/


==== AUDIO ====

EchoPilot - Emptiness (sample)   (...a KONTROL favorite!)
http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/EchoPilot_-_Emptiness.mp3

Brian Aneurysm - Iron Box Sessions #13 (DJ set)
http://www.ironboxmusic.com/audio/brian_aneurysm_IBS13.mp3


==== REVIEWS ====

Brian Aneurysm - Succubus - Sub-Static

Sub Static return with humorously named Brian Aneurysm who drops 4
tracks of straight up techno hijinks for the heads. Brian hails from
Texas - past releases have been on his own, so hot it hurts, Iron Box
techouse label, as well as Poker Flat and Ware. After his venomously
brilliant double ep "Amplified" (sub static #28), the Texan has now
upgraded his sharp-edged techno funk wrecks to an ugly assed nasty
jacker on the title cut, which doesn't even have to be played
backwards to spread its seductive poison. Diabolic stuff, and great
material for the more darkside inclined clubsound. Damaging.

Echopilot - Fragile EP - Morris Audio CitySport Edition

Produced by Brian Pucher (aka Brian Aneurysm) under his Echopilot
guise, this is akin to taking one part minimal Richie Hawtin and one
part quirky Derrick Carter and one part silky Timewriter; and blending
them together into a deep, minimal concoction.  Simple rhythms,
eclectic (and sometimes disturbing) vocal samples, jazzy stabs and a
ton of atmosphere come together to take you on a journey through the
mind of a mad scientist. This is about as funky and tricked out as
anything you are likely to hear, and one of the best productions of
the year to this point. Exquisite Stuff.

Brian Aneurysm - The End of Logic - Iron Box Music

Bernard Pucher comes back under his alias Brian Aneurysm, opening the
year harder than ever before with a minimal techno stomper. He is
known for his dark and twisted minimal, but on this record, he
combines that with his love for good old techno, and creates an
energy-laden EP called THE END OF LOGIC. The original is distorted,
thick and crunchy with a twisted vocal ...you know, the kind we've
come to love from Brian Aneurysm. The B-Side offers 2dollarEgg-style
thump tracks that combine great production with minimal flavour
resulting in dancefloor mania.

__________________________________________

Upcoming guests:

September 16 : ALEX SMOKE - live! ( Soma . Vakant : Glasgow )
October 21 : AKUFEN ( Perlon . Mutek_Rec : Montreal )

http://www.kontrolsf.com

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I'll be there with my wife.  I'm an old schooler without  much hair.

I think I'm going to wear a sort of redish orange shirt with some Buddhist monks on the front and like a swirly thingee...and my sweatshirt has the dharma protector Mahakala on the back.

So say hi!  We'll be on the dance floor around 12am...

Come on house heads I know you are out there.

Anyone else gonna be there?

Peace,

Peter


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Yup.
I'll be there. I'm going to see Jordan & Mikey Tello play at WishBar beforehand, tho.

~juju


On 8/19/06,  dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote: Any house heads going to the GGL/Sunset thing tonight?

I think I shall be there at least for a bit.

Peter



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nope..i'm actually getting ready to go to sleep soon...i'm still tired from lastnight..lol..

but do have fun and dance alot for me :)

night night..
-adriana



dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: I'll be there with my wife.  I'm an old schooler without  much hair.

I think I'm going to wear a sort of redish orange shirt with some Buddhist monks on the front and like a swirly thingee...and my sweatshirt has the dharma protector Mahakala on the back.

So say hi!  We'll be on the dance floor around 12am...

Come on house heads I know you are out there.

Anyone else gonna be there?

Peace,

Peter


----- Original Message ----
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To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 5:57:14 PM
Subject: Re: [sfraves] Fully Loaded?

Yup.
I'll be there. I'm going to see Jordan & Mikey Tello play at WishBar beforehand, tho.

~juju


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I think I shall be there at least for a bit.

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BWAHAHA!! Brad Pitt on a really bad day maybe..






>From: <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com, Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>,  
>blooshaman@hotmail.com, layla6942@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] ozomatli @ Stern Grove this sunday!
>Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 20:14:43 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Oh wait, here's a much more accurate photo: 
>http://mylai.com/seered/morphis/obsoleet/images/DSC_0492.jpg
>
>Sort of a cross between Elmo and Brad Pitt only with better facial hair. ;)
>
>Peter
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>To: Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>; blooshaman@hotmail.com; 
>layla6942@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 7:37:47 PM
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] ozomatli @ Stern Grove this sunday!
>
>Although I can walk to Stern Grove from my house, since we are going out 
>tomorrow night I'm not sure I'll be doing much walking Sunday.  I think I 
>might crawl over to Bunny Meadow for Shiska Beats later tho.
>
>What does Marc(o) look like?  You can scope this picture: 
>http://netamp.com/artists/marco.php but I'm not sure I would have 
>recognized him from that.
>
>He'll be the guy carrying the whiskey. ;)
>
>Peace,
>
>Peter
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>----- Original Message ----
>From: Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
>To: blooshaman@hotmail.com; layla6942@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 4:58:18 PM
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] ozomatli @ Stern Grove this sunday!
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>I look like me...dammit.
>
>;)
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Danny Picard" <blooshaman@hotmail.com>
> >To: electrofunk138@hotmail.com, layla6942@yahoo.com, 
>sfraves@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: Re: [sfraves] ozomatli @ Stern Grove this sunday!
> >Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:25:08 -0700
> >
> >what do you look like again?
> >bring whiskey
> >
> >Dan-0
> >
> >
> >
> >"Vergoofin der flicke stoobin mit der brk-brk
> >yubetcha!" -Swedish Chef
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >>From: "Van Mundegaarde" <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
> >>To: layla6942@yahoo.com, blooshaman@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
> >>Subject: Re: [sfraves] ozomatli @ Stern Grove this sunday!
> >>Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:17:04 -0700
> >>
> >>Prolly see you at both ;)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: Layla Lewis <layla6942@yahoo.com>
> >>>To: Danny Picard <blooshaman@hotmail.com>, sfraves@hyperreal.org
> >>>Subject: Re: [sfraves] ozomatli @ Stern Grove this sunday!
> >>>Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:08:41 -0700 (PDT)
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> >>>don't know where i'll be but i hope to make it to
> >>>stern grove on sunday!!!! and then after that shiska
> >>>beats at bunny meadow!!!
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> >>>--- Danny Picard <blooshaman@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> >>> > My housemate and I are definatley going, probably
> >>> > heading down there around
> >>> > 10am-ish, depending on if we get a grip of peeps to
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> >>> > http://www.sterngrove.org/
> >>> > anyone wanna go?
> >>> > Picnics and FUN!
> >>> > and OZOMATLI!!!!
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> >>> >
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Fully Loaded?

Yes it is almost time for a disco nap...

Sweet dreams and don't let the bed bugs bite Adriana.

Peace,

Peter

----- Original Message ----
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To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 7:08:36 PM
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nope..i'm actually getting ready to go to sleep soon...i'm still tired from lastnight..lol..

but do have fun and dance alot for me :)

night night..
-adriana



dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: I'll be there with my wife.  I'm an old schooler without  much hair.

I think I'm going to wear a sort of redish orange shirt with some Buddhist monks on the front and like a swirly thingee...and my sweatshirt has the dharma protector Mahakala on the back.

So say hi!  We'll be on the dance floor around 12am...

Come on house heads I know you are out there.

Anyone else gonna be there?

Peace,

Peter


----- Original Message ----
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To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 5:57:14 PM
Subject: Re: [sfraves] Fully Loaded?

Yup.
I'll be there. I'm going to see Jordan & Mikey Tello play at WishBar beforehand, tho.

~juju


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I think I shall be there at least for a bit.

Peter



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Subject: Re: Fwd: [sfraves] BSP: Zombie Mob Saturday!!!!

Answering my own question: http://www.boingboing.net/2006/08/19/zombies_invade_san_f.html

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Any photos of the zombie massacre?

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awesome.. no innocent bystanders are to be eaten by zombies, but tourists
are fair game, right? = )

after they came to visit san francisco to be entertained, right?

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<http://eatbrains.com/>http://eatbrains.com/

The details: Saturday, Aug 19th, zombies will be storming the corner of
Market and Sansome at 2:30p. We will then walk/limp/crawl to Powell Station
by 3:00p. There will be a big massacre on Powell between Market and
O'Farrel. We'll Pick up stragglers at Union Square by 3:30p. See the <
http://eatbrains.com/mob2006/images/mobmap.jpg>Map

How to participate: Plant yourself somewhere along our route. Show up in
plain clothes minus anything of value. Wear a small piece of duct tape (or
similar) clearly visible on your torso. Attract our attention somehow.
(screaming "aaaiiieeee! zombies!" is good for this). We will attack you,
cover you with blood, shred your clothes, and slip you a makeup kit so you
can create new zombies. If you want to show up already in zombie gear,
great. Just join the mob at any time.

Rules - Don't attack people who haven't clearly indicated they want to be
attacked. Don't get blood on bystanders or their things.




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another year younger!!! woohoo!!
today we celebrate your day, you touch many lives with your existance...
thanks for making my life super uberly fun :)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY BAM!!!

wishing you everything that makes you happy on your birthday and always...


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Subject: [sfraves] HAPPY HARDCORE BIRTHDAY BAMDON :)

Love U Brandon!!!  SEriously , MONDO Groovy Hella Thanks for bein' there
for me throughout all these years & there to talk!  Love U Bro!

{{{HAPPYHARDCORE HUGZ}}} :)

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Happy bday yo, from one old man to another...

:)
m

--- adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com> wrote:

> another year younger!!! woohoo!!
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> thanks for making my life super uberly fun :)
> 
> HAPPY BIRTHDAY BAM!!!
> 
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Ditto! :)  Hope you have an insanely fun day!

On 20 August 2006, michael, the red stickman wrote:

> Happy bday yo, from one old man to another...
>
> :)
> m
>
> --- adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com> wrote:
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You are awesome! I hope you have a really good day and
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Hear Hear!
Bam is grate!!

-terry

On Sun, 20 Aug 2006, michael, the red stickman wrote:

> Happy bday yo, from one old man to another...
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> m
>
> --- adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>
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Subject: [sfraves] track ID

ok I think I have the track but im not sure? I may have just heard it a 
million times.

It's a house track sort of anthemish.. I guess somwhat Disco-ish as well. 
You would hear Dan or Glaude rocking it for sure.. The main chrous goes like 
this.

"Baby I don't know what I should do.... You *sure* make me feel like loving 
you"

Female Diva-esque vocal

Note: Not sure if it says **sure** or something else..

So yea House addicts holla atcha boy with the producer and track name.. I 
know one of you guys knows it or even has it.


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At 09:42 PM 8/20/2006, Macadio G. wrote:
>ok I think I have the track but im not sure? I may have just heard it a million times.
>
>It's a house track sort of anthemish.. I guess somwhat Disco-ish as well. You would hear Dan or Glaude rocking it for sure.. The main chrous goes like this.
>
>"Baby I don't know what I should do.... You *sure* make me feel like loving you"
>
>Female Diva-esque vocal
>

Donna Allen.  "Serious."  Late eighties.

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY BRANDON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!      HAHA!!!! YOU ARE EXACTLY 2 DAYS OLDER THAN ME.  WOW!!!!!   WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
   
  -TAMI :-)

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Its been almost 7 years since I signed off.... I thought it was time for me 
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schoolers still here? John Rodriguez (full moon) maybe? 

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Subject: RE: [sfraves] HAPPY HARDCORE BIRTHDAY BAMDON :)

Fuck, I even saw you yesterday and forgot to wish you a happy birthday Bam!!

HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY!




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>Love U Brandon!!!  SEriously , MONDO Groovy Hella Thanks for bein' there
>for me throughout all these years & there to talk!  Love U Bro!
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><http://www.moogfoundation.org>
>moog foundation logo
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>The Bob Moog Foundation 
>The Bob Moog Memorial Foundation for Electronic Music
>Email Newsletter #1
>
>Site Launches Today! 
>
>Quick links
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><http://www.moogfoundation.org>Official Website
><http://www.moogfoundation.org/content/view/37/52/>Documentary Podcast
><https://secure.groundspring.org/dn/index.php?aid=11672>Donate Now
><http://www.moogfoundation.org/pr_assets>Caring Bridge / Moog Memorial 
>
>On August 21, 2005 my father died. He was a great and gentle man who left his mark on the world forever. During the past year my family and I have discussed many ways in which we could carry on his work and his legacy. 
>
>We have decided to establish the Bob Moog Memorial Foundation for Electronic Music, with a few carefully chosen objectives, each tied to his life and work.
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>Today, we invite you to join us. Please visit our new website <http://www.moogfoundation.org>www.moogfoundation.org 
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>Our Goals
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>The Foundation has set forth the following as its initial objectives: 
>    * Endowed Scholarships 
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>    * Special Events for Electronic Music 
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><http://www.moogfoundation.org>Read more... 
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> 
>
>MoogCasts | Documentary Podcast 
>
>We're developing a documentary series that features artists playing Moog Music instruments. 
>
>This first episode features Perpetual Groove, a rock n' roll band, with every member playing at least one Moog. 
>
>What's a podcast? That's on the site, too. 
>
><http://www.moogfoundation.org/content/view/37/52/>Listen now... 
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>
>Supporting the Foundation
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>We have vision. We have determination. To carry out our intentions to honor Bob’s legacy, we need money.
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>Please consider making a contribution to our Foundation. You may choose to give now, or make a pledge to give over time. Every contribution counts.
>
>We also need you to spread the word--forward this email to friends, colleagues, and anyone interested in the work and legacy of Dr. Bob Moog. 
>
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>PO BOX 8136 Asheville, NC 28814 | 828/683-7261 | info@moogfoundation.org
>Copyright 2006 The Bob Moog Foundation 
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Email Newsletter #1<br><br>
<b>Site Launches Today! </b><br><br>
Quick links<br><br>
<a href="http://www.moogfoundation.org">Official Website</a><br>
<a href="http://www.moogfoundation.org/content/view/37/52/">Documentary
Podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://secure.groundspring.org/dn/index.php?aid=11672">Donate
Now</a><br>
<a href="http://www.moogfoundation.org/pr_assets">Caring Bridge / Moog
Memorial </a><br><br>
On August 21, 2005 my father died. He was a great and gentle man who left
his mark on the world forever. During the past year my family and I have
discussed many ways in which we could carry on his work and his legacy.
<br><br>
We have decided to establish the Bob Moog Memorial Foundation for
Electronic Music, with a few carefully chosen objectives, each tied to
his life and work.<br><br>
Today, we invite you to join us. Please visit our new website
<a href="http://www.moogfoundation.org">www.moogfoundation.org</a>
<br><br>
Sincerely, <br><br>
Michelle Moog-Koussa<br>
Director, The Bob Moog Foundation <br>
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&nbsp;&nbsp; <br><br>
&nbsp;<br><br>
Our Goals<br><br>
The Foundation has set forth the following as its initial objectives: 
<ul>
<li>Endowed Scholarships 
<li>The Bob Moog Memorial Museum 
<li>Outreach Programs for Disadvantaged Students 
<li>Special Events for Electronic Music 
</ul><br>
<a href="http://www.moogfoundation.org">Read more... </a><br>
&nbsp;
<img src="cid:7.0.1.0.2.20060821135619.03241480@speakeasy.org.1" width=160 height=31 alt="[]">
&nbsp;&nbsp; <br><br>
&nbsp;<br><br>
MoogCasts | Documentary Podcast <br><br>
We're developing a documentary series that features artists playing Moog
Music instruments. <br><br>
This first episode features Perpetual Groove, a rock n' roll band, with
every member playing at least one Moog. <br><br>
What's a podcast? That's on the site, too. <br><br>
<a href="http://www.moogfoundation.org/content/view/37/52/">Listen now...
</a><br>
&nbsp;
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&nbsp;&nbsp; <br><br>
&nbsp;<br><br>
Supporting the Foundation<br><br>
We have vision. We have determination. To carry out our intentions to
honor Bob’s legacy, we need money.<br><br>
Please consider making a contribution to our Foundation. You may choose
to give now, or make a pledge to give over time. Every contribution
counts.<br><br>
We also need you to spread the word--forward this email to friends,
colleagues, and anyone interested in the work and legacy of Dr. Bob Moog.
<br><br>
<a href="https://secure.groundspring.org/dn/index.php?aid=11672">Support
the Foundation... </a><br><br>
&nbsp;<br><br>
<div align="center">The Bob Moog Memorial Foundation for Electronic Music
<br>
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info@moogfoundation.org<br>
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joke-of-a-government, let it push us around, and then wonder how all
those assholes got in there.&quot; - Frank Zappa <br><br>
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Subject: [sfraves] Tranceportal day party thanks

Hi everybody!

We wanted to send our thanks to everybody who came out to hang with us last
last week in a meadow full of trance.  Somewhere around 2-3pm a bunch of you
came by, and with your help we were able to raise $350 to help out Josh Wolf
(http://freejosh.pbwiki.com) which we have already sent to Liz.

The website has been updated with party photos and recordings of all the
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It was great to seeing so many old friends and tons of new faces, we had a
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Subject: [sfraves] BSP: Wed. 8/23: Crooked with Aaron Jae and Donna Matrix

Hey there,
>
>It's the official pre-playa t'rowdown, everyone! This one's gonna be hot 
>hot
>HOT, with Aaron Jae and Donna Matrix joining myself and Evinrude on the
>decks. The energy is insanely high around our bay and our community right
>now, with less than a week until the big one gets underway. We're all busy
>getting everything together, yes, but you KNOW you need to get out and see
>everyone, hear some choice, premium, grade-A beats, burn off some of that
>steam, shake your ass and embrace the energy. Milk it, y'all! It's the
>official playa-vibe Crooked!
>
>
>Crooked
>Wednesday, 8/23
>Nickie's BBQ, 460 Haight St. @ Fillmore, SF
>10pm-2am
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y B R A N D O N!!!!!

Word!!


happy burfday foo!!!


Mac


>From: Terry Estioko <terry@hyperreal.org>
>To: "michael, the red stickman" <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
>CC: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] H A P P Y     B I R T H D A Y    B R A N D O N!!!!!
>Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 18:23:05 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Hear Hear!
>Bam is grate!!
>
>-terry
>
>On Sun, 20 Aug 2006, michael, the red stickman wrote:
>
>>Happy bday yo, from one old man to another...
>>
>>:)
>>m
>>
>>--- adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>another year younger!!! woohoo!!
>>>today we celebrate your day, you touch many lives with your
>>>existance...
>>>thanks for making my life super uberly fun :)
>>>
>>>HAPPY BIRTHDAY BAM!!!
>>>
>>>wishing you everything that makes you happy on your birthday
>>>and always...
>>>
>>>
>>>xoxo
>>>~adriana
>>>
>>>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y B R A N D O N!!!!!

thanks everyone for the birthday wishes!

had a great time playing (old school booty breaks and funky jams) on
friday night at Mighty Breaks, dinner and drinking on saturday
night....by the time my actual birthday rolled around on sunday i was
too pooped to really get down.  i spent most of my time at the Shiska
Beats day party sitting down and drinking beer.


On 8/22/06, Macadio G. <macadio@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Word!!
>
>
> happy burfday foo!!!
>
>
> Mac
>
>
> >From: Terry Estioko <terry@hyperreal.org>
> >To: "michael, the red stickman" <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
> >CC: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>, sfraves@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: Re: [sfraves] H A P P Y     B I R T H D A Y    B R A N D O N!!!=
!!
> >Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 18:23:05 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Hear Hear!
> >Bam is grate!!
> >
> >-terry
> >
> >On Sun, 20 Aug 2006, michael, the red stickman wrote:
> >
> >>Happy bday yo, from one old man to another...
> >>
> >>:)
> >>m
> >>
> >>--- adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>another year younger!!! woohoo!!
> >>>today we celebrate your day, you touch many lives with your
> >>>existance...
> >>>thanks for making my life super uberly fun :)
> >>>
> >>>HAPPY BIRTHDAY BAM!!!
> >>>
> >>>wishing you everything that makes you happy on your birthday
> >>>and always...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>xoxo
> >>>~adriana
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>---------------------------------
> >>>Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone
> >>>calls.  Great rates starting at 1=A2/min.
> >>
> >>
> >>-----------------------------------------------------
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> >>
> >>new downtempo mix online, you should check it out.
> >>-----------------------------------------------------
> >>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y B R A N D O N!!!!!

Happy Belated Birthday, mon ami.  :)

love always

n i c o
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thanks everyone for the birthday wishes!

had a great time playing (old school booty breaks and funky jams) on
friday night at Mighty Breaks, dinner and drinking on saturday
night....by the time my actual birthday rolled around on sunday i was
too pooped to really get down.  i spent most of my time at the Shiska
Beats day party sitting down and drinking beer.


On 8/22/06, Macadio G. <macadio@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Word!!
>
>
> happy burfday foo!!!
>
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> Mac
>
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> >From: Terry Estioko <terry@hyperreal.org>
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> >Subject: Re: [sfraves] H A P P Y     B I R T H D A Y    B R A N D O 
> >N!!!!!
> >Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 18:23:05 -0700 (PDT)
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> >Hear Hear!
> >Bam is grate!!
> >
> >-terry
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> >On Sun, 20 Aug 2006, michael, the red stickman wrote:
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> >>Happy bday yo, from one old man to another...
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> >>--- adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> >>>another year younger!!! woohoo!!
> >>>today we celebrate your day, you touch many lives with your
> >>>existance...
> >>>thanks for making my life super uberly fun :)
> >>>
> >>>HAPPY BIRTHDAY BAM!!!
> >>>
> >>>wishing you everything that makes you happy on your birthday
> >>>and always...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>xoxo
> >>>~adriana
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August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
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Subject: [sfraves] Photo booth rentals?

has anyone ever rented a photo booth locally for a party or event?

if so, who did you use and what was your experience like?

standard photo booth.  sticker photos.  anyone?

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Subject: [sfraves] Oh Yeah.. quick WR of last weekend :)

So last Saturday was kinda upsetting, but like mondo fulfiling @ the same
time :)  Like I got flaked on hardcore not once, but twice by the same
person who said that I could work for him so i could make some fast cash
by helping him clean like these mansions in Fairfield.. la la la... then
he was gonna take me up to SAc & I was suppose 2 go 2 Heavyweights that
Drop Heavy was throwin', but oh well... never happened...

So anywaze.. there's somethning I'm involved in right now TV show-wise i'm
not allowed to talk about yet... but like the Executive Producer called me
Sat evening & told me that I was gonna be working on that night, so score
:)  YAY!!!

So the 1st place we shot was @ BamBuhda Lounge (Phoenix Hotel) wherre
there was a SF House Collective Fund raiser shindig & I interviewed the
promoter Scott.. it was a Groovy shindig actually.. i mean.. outta all the
time i've been by that place.. i never went like inside 'cause i was like
promoting for 1015 dealie... but WOW... So nice!!! :)  It was funny.. like
i didn't expect to know anyone there.. then this girl like yelled my name
who I remember meeting from the old skool Blakes Ascension days... so that
was kinda Groovy.... I totally forgot her name... & it was hard to see who
she was in a 1/2 pitched dark room only lit up by din red lights... but
regardless... it was Dope seein' her again :)  LoL  Hello 2day :P

The next stop was SOMA-TECH :)  Now it took us a while to get there 'cause
it was @ a "hidden" underground location... now when they say Hidden...
they meant it... it took like an hour & 1/2 to find the location... like
me & the production crew went  to all the clubs were i knew the like
bouncers & they didn't even know where the street was... but like ok... it
was still Groovy catchin' up w/ them 'cause it's been rare that I been in
SOMA lately.. lol... oh yeah.. i even saw Oli & Big J @ Butter, but they
had no clue what i was lookin' for...

So after Cat Club, 1015, Caliente, Paradise, we went to like DNA & I
talked to Barry there.. lol.. we went in the club & did a google serch..
Hello 2day.. we found it!  So we got there... Hello 2Day.. it was the same
place where old skool SFR peeps Kimba & Seraphim used to live.. their old
wherehouse they used to live in :)

We kinda got there late... Catharsis spun already & Kuzse spun already..
so waaah :(  BUt when we got there... Christian Fuller (i think that was
him) was spinning this Yummy Techno... I mean.. it was kinda like Poppy
Misstress Barb kinda Techno... but it was fun!!!  LoL.. the dance floor
was packed & it was fun... saw sooooooooooooooo many old skool faces i
ain't seen in a loooong time there & it was fun hangin' out w/ a sloshed
Catharsis!!! :)  It was also fun makin' new Friends there which i really
hope to see again @ some point :)  Man... Awesome talks w/ people!!  I
mean... the attendance was probably more than it was suppose 2 B 'cause it
was in the Heart of SOMA.. the warehouse... so lik3e  I'm sure some like
passer byers like heard the Yummy Grooves & decided to check it out!!  But
it was really am Awesome crowd :)

Outta everywhere we been on Sat.. i only took picktures @ SOMA-TECH & i
kinda regret that :(  Oh Well... anywaze... here they go :)

http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l188/YummyBeats/SOMA-TECH%208-20-2006/

I wish i made it on Sunday to the park... but yeah... my thoughts were
there :)  Love U Bam... Glad u had a Groovy Bday weekend dude :)

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Subject: [sfraves] BSP: UPDATE!!!! THE PHAT CONDUCTOR joining us at Crooked tomorrow!

(This is straight from my fellow Renegade Ferret Evinrude...)

Oh man! Gotta love the last minute 
international-peeps-in-town-for-Burning-Man sets, right?

Needless to say, we're pretty damn stoked to be hosting The Phat Conductor 
at Nickie's tomorrow. This 2Wars/A Revolution Records recording artist (and 
one of Urb Magazine's "Next 100" picks) is one of Toronto, Canada's leading 
figures in breaks, regularly doing gigs in Canada, the UK and the US. He'll 
be doing a live laptop set at Crooked.

>From his site (thephatconductor.com - check it for some mixes, too...): "Old 
School, Nu Skool, Home School... it doesn't matter. With an ear for the 
future and an eye on the dancefloor the man behind Ice-9 brings you lush, 
organic electronics, funky bass grooves and a live performance to tell your 
grandkids about..."

So yeah, this is AWESOME! Come check it!

And on top of all that, the original plan is still in effect, as well. I 
certainly don't want to overshadow the fact that Aaron Jae and Donna Matrix 
are gonna be in the house as well. They're two of my favorite DJs around, so 
all in all, all I can say is "Damn. Now THIS is a Wednesday night lineup!"


Crooked
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: UPDATE!!!! THE PHAT CONDUCTOR joining us at Crooked tomorrow!

the last mix i heard from the Phat Conductor was fucking ill.

if you like the phatty breaks, this is definitely worth checking out.

On 8/22/06, Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com> wrote:
> (This is straight from my fellow Renegade Ferret Evinrude...)
>
> Oh man! Gotta love the last minute
> international-peeps-in-town-for-Burning-Man sets, right?
>
> Needless to say, we're pretty damn stoked to be hosting The Phat Conductor
> at Nickie's tomorrow. This 2Wars/A Revolution Records recording artist (and
> one of Urb Magazine's "Next 100" picks) is one of Toronto, Canada's leading
> figures in breaks, regularly doing gigs in Canada, the UK and the US. He'll
> be doing a live laptop set at Crooked.
>
> From his site (thephatconductor.com - check it for some mixes, too...): "Old
> School, Nu Skool, Home School... it doesn't matter. With an ear for the
> future and an eye on the dancefloor the man behind Ice-9 brings you lush,
> organic electronics, funky bass grooves and a live performance to tell your
> grandkids about..."
>
> So yeah, this is AWESOME! Come check it!
>
> And on top of all that, the original plan is still in effect, as well. I
> certainly don't want to overshadow the fact that Aaron Jae and Donna Matrix
> are gonna be in the house as well. They're two of my favorite DJs around, so
> all in all, all I can say is "Damn. Now THIS is a Wednesday night lineup!"
>
>
> Crooked
> Wednesday, 8/23
> Nickie's BBQ, 460 Haight St. @ Fillmore, SF
> 10pm-2am
> $3, 21+ with ID
>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: UPDATE!!!! THE PHAT CONDUCTOR joining us at Crooked tomorrow!

in fact, here's the mix:

http://www.thephatconductor.com/ThePhatConductor-SplankSessions-July-06.mp3

1. *Intro = Michael Rupert + The House of Break
2. Tipper - Tepid Bile - Tippermusic vs. Beastie Boys - Sure Shot (Acapella)
3. Method Man vs. Prodigy (The Phat Conductor Edit) - Bootleg
4. *Bridge = Doom Selector - Broken Joint (The Phat Conductor Edit)
5. Docta Seuss + The Phat Conductor - Untitled - Unsigned
6. Bassnectar + The Phat Conductor - Ancient Astronauts - Unsigned
7. Prosper and Balda - D'All Ass (Bassbin Twins Remix) - Funky Cactus
8. Rawhill Cru - Jungle Ain't Sellin' (Dave Dub + The Phat Conductor's Funk
mix) - Funky Cactus (Forthcoming)
9. *Bridge = James Brown - Payback Megamix (The Phat Conductor Edit) -
Bootleg
10. Beck - High Five vs. Dubplate Culture (The Phat Conductor Remix) -
Bootleg
11. The Phat Conductor's Chocolate Salty Balls
12. Price Cuts - That's Right (Dave Dub + The Phat Conductor Remix) -
Lab-Rok (Forthcoming)
13. Robb G + The Phat Conductor - Chunkasaurus - Menu Music (Forthcoming)
14. Rawhill Cru - Jungle Ain't Sellin' (Dave Dub + The Phat Conductor's
Breaks Mix) - Funky Cactus (Forthcoming)
15. Steelzawheelz - Discotron (Drummatic Twins Mix) - Money Shot
16. Geek Ghastly - Rage Against Terror - Bootleg
17. The Phat Conductor - Ice-9 - 2Wars
18. Guru and the Roots - Lift Your Fist (Wayward Soul Bootleg)
19. Raster - The Prototype (Tipper's Tippy Bazmeg Remix) - Chi Records
20. Raster - Spiral Transform - Chi Records
21. The Nam Shub of Enki - Phresch Controller - Unreleased



On 8/22/06, Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
> the last mix i heard from the Phat Conductor was fucking ill.
>
> if you like the phatty breaks, this is definitely worth checking out.
>
> On 8/22/06, Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > (This is straight from my fellow Renegade Ferret Evinrude...)
> >
> > Oh man! Gotta love the last minute
> > international-peeps-in-town-for-Burning-Man sets, right?
> >
> > Needless to say, we're pretty damn stoked to be hosting The Phat Conductor
> > at Nickie's tomorrow. This 2Wars/A Revolution Records recording artist (and
> > one of Urb Magazine's "Next 100" picks) is one of Toronto, Canada's leading
> > figures in breaks, regularly doing gigs in Canada, the UK and the US. He'll
> > be doing a live laptop set at Crooked.
> >
> > From his site (thephatconductor.com - check it for some mixes, too...): "Old
> > School, Nu Skool, Home School... it doesn't matter. With an ear for the
> > future and an eye on the dancefloor the man behind Ice-9 brings you lush,
> > organic electronics, funky bass grooves and a live performance to tell your
> > grandkids about..."
> >
> > So yeah, this is AWESOME! Come check it!
> >
> > And on top of all that, the original plan is still in effect, as well. I
> > certainly don't want to overshadow the fact that Aaron Jae and Donna Matrix
> > are gonna be in the house as well. They're two of my favorite DJs around, so
> > all in all, all I can say is "Damn. Now THIS is a Wednesday night lineup!"
> >
> >
> > Crooked
> > Wednesday, 8/23
> > Nickie's BBQ, 460 Haight St. @ Fillmore, SF
> > 10pm-2am
> > $3, 21+ with ID
> >
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: UPDATE!!!! THE PHAT CONDUCTOR joining us at Crooked tomorrow!

Thanks for the mix link Bam! I was trying to find it b4 I posted this, but 
lost my link and then got stuffed with tasks at the new jobby.

Hope to see you all out tomorrow!




>From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
>To: "Van Mundegaarde" <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
>CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: UPDATE!!!! THE PHAT CONDUCTOR joining us at 
>Crooked tomorrow!
>Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:38:58 -0700
>
>in fact, here's the mix:
>
>http://www.thephatconductor.com/ThePhatConductor-SplankSessions-July-06.mp3
>
>1. *Intro = Michael Rupert + The House of Break
>2. Tipper - Tepid Bile - Tippermusic vs. Beastie Boys - Sure Shot 
>(Acapella)
>3. Method Man vs. Prodigy (The Phat Conductor Edit) - Bootleg
>4. *Bridge = Doom Selector - Broken Joint (The Phat Conductor Edit)
>5. Docta Seuss + The Phat Conductor - Untitled - Unsigned
>6. Bassnectar + The Phat Conductor - Ancient Astronauts - Unsigned
>7. Prosper and Balda - D'All Ass (Bassbin Twins Remix) - Funky Cactus
>8. Rawhill Cru - Jungle Ain't Sellin' (Dave Dub + The Phat Conductor's Funk
>mix) - Funky Cactus (Forthcoming)
>9. *Bridge = James Brown - Payback Megamix (The Phat Conductor Edit) -
>Bootleg
>10. Beck - High Five vs. Dubplate Culture (The Phat Conductor Remix) -
>Bootleg
>11. The Phat Conductor's Chocolate Salty Balls
>12. Price Cuts - That's Right (Dave Dub + The Phat Conductor Remix) -
>Lab-Rok (Forthcoming)
>13. Robb G + The Phat Conductor - Chunkasaurus - Menu Music (Forthcoming)
>14. Rawhill Cru - Jungle Ain't Sellin' (Dave Dub + The Phat Conductor's
>Breaks Mix) - Funky Cactus (Forthcoming)
>15. Steelzawheelz - Discotron (Drummatic Twins Mix) - Money Shot
>16. Geek Ghastly - Rage Against Terror - Bootleg
>17. The Phat Conductor - Ice-9 - 2Wars
>18. Guru and the Roots - Lift Your Fist (Wayward Soul Bootleg)
>19. Raster - The Prototype (Tipper's Tippy Bazmeg Remix) - Chi Records
>20. Raster - Spiral Transform - Chi Records
>21. The Nam Shub of Enki - Phresch Controller - Unreleased
>
>
>
>On 8/22/06, Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
>>the last mix i heard from the Phat Conductor was fucking ill.
>>
>>if you like the phatty breaks, this is definitely worth checking out.
>>
>>On 8/22/06, Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > (This is straight from my fellow Renegade Ferret Evinrude...)
>> >
>> > Oh man! Gotta love the last minute
>> > international-peeps-in-town-for-Burning-Man sets, right?
>> >
>> > Needless to say, we're pretty damn stoked to be hosting The Phat 
>>Conductor
>> > at Nickie's tomorrow. This 2Wars/A Revolution Records recording artist 
>>(and
>> > one of Urb Magazine's "Next 100" picks) is one of Toronto, Canada's 
>>leading
>> > figures in breaks, regularly doing gigs in Canada, the UK and the US. 
>>He'll
>> > be doing a live laptop set at Crooked.
>> >
>> > From his site (thephatconductor.com - check it for some mixes, too...): 
>>"Old
>> > School, Nu Skool, Home School... it doesn't matter. With an ear for the
>> > future and an eye on the dancefloor the man behind Ice-9 brings you 
>>lush,
>> > organic electronics, funky bass grooves and a live performance to tell 
>>your
>> > grandkids about..."
>> >
>> > So yeah, this is AWESOME! Come check it!
>> >
>> > And on top of all that, the original plan is still in effect, as well. 
>>I
>> > certainly don't want to overshadow the fact that Aaron Jae and Donna 
>>Matrix
>> > are gonna be in the house as well. They're two of my favorite DJs 
>>around, so
>> > all in all, all I can say is "Damn. Now THIS is a Wednesday night 
>>lineup!"
>> >
>> >
>> > Crooked
>> > Wednesday, 8/23
>> > Nickie's BBQ, 460 Haight St. @ Fillmore, SF
>> > 10pm-2am
>> > $3, 21+ with ID
>> >
>> > _________________________________________________________________
>> > Get real-time traffic reports with Windows Live Local Search
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>>http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=42.336065~-109.392273&style=r&lvl=4&scene=3712634&trfc=1
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>>
>>DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
>>http://www.evilbreaks.com
>>
>>August 12th:  Obsoleet
>>August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
>>August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
>>September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
>>October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
>>
>
>
>--
>--------------------------
>< Brandon / DJ Bam >
>
>DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
>http://www.evilbreaks.com
>
>August 12th:  Obsoleet
>August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
>August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
>September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
>October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's

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Hi All,

My wife and I finally made it out this past weekend.   Unfortunately because of the logistics of getting a babysitter we don't always have a choice about what night to go out.  That meant missing Mighty Breaks on Friday, and so we decided to attend a Sunset/GGL (Green Gorilla Lounge) "underground" called Fully Loaded at Gingerbread.

Now I don't want to be accused of being hater here.  I consider myself to mostly be a house head, so I was looking forward to this party.  I've been a fan of both crews for years and I've attended numerous Sunset and GGL parties previously.  However, I did not like this party.  The venue was alright, featuring relatively safe parking ($3) across the street, decent bathrooms and acceptable sound.  When we got there M3 was spinning some half decent house.  I enjoyed the projections and so forth.  But it wasn't too crowded and the vibe wasn't really clicking.  

After a while of chilling, it was time for one of the bands, Bobbie Marie, to play.  I'm pretty openminded musically and I like a lot of different styles.  I like live percussion and instruments at aprties too.  However, I don't know if I just didn't get this band, but I thought they were awful.  Sort of bad industrial/punk crossed with Devo-esque vocals also done badly.  Almost immediately the downstairs dance floor was cleared,and we (and most everyone else) fled upstairs where Sharon Buck was spinning some nice funky tracks.  People upstairs were dancing while the hideous grating of nails and chalkboards continued downstairs.  For a bit it seemed like the upstairs might go off, but then suddenly the crowd began to thin out.  Apparently the downstairs was now open again as the second band, Landshark, set up.  We migrated downstairs, hoping the vibe would solidfy, but it just was even more diffused.  We decided to leave and go elsewhere.

Headed over towards the Aspire 8 yr. party which we found easily.  While looking for parking we saw a lot of very sketchy characters leaving the venue and lurking around the side streets in the area.  I didn't really think parking there was such a great plan. We were probably over reacting, but we decided to move on anyway.  I headed for Kontrol over at the Rx Gallery, but it was after 3AM and by this point and my navigation abilities were shot.  I couldn't find the Rx.  And my GPS navigation system seemed more like the controls of an alien spacecraft than anything else. After a few minuted of futile searching in the Tenderloin, we realized that the CD in my car was sounding REAL GOOD right about then.  So we decided to head for the beach and just enjoy the rest of the evening/morning sans party.

Ok, we had a good time anyway, but this wasn't a good party. In fact I'd say it was a good example of how to have a bad party.  Wrong people, wrong music, wrong venue.  Timing of set changes badly managed.  Weird drink system that encouraged people to drink more than they should (you had to buy 3 drinks at a time for $10 including juice, water, soda, etc.)  Bleh.  I liked the venue however.

We had intended to head over to Golden Gate Park for Shishkabeats Sunday, but we were so sleepy.  Yawn.  We could hardly... Yawn... get out of bed.  Yawn. Snore.

Peace,

Peter




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Subject: [sfraves] need track id for "bitch ass" house track

with the lyrics something like "hit it from the firont, hit it from the back, just like that"

I think this is 5+ years old FWIW

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Subject: RE: [sfraves] weekend report (of sorts)

The 1st band you described sounds like pretty much every band/sound that 
gets played over at the Rickshaw. I highly recommend that NO ONE ever goes 
to that hipster nightmare of a place.

Landshark - that's Lance Desardi's band. Wewre they worth a fuck, or just as 
lame as "band # 1" ?




>From: <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
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>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: [sfraves] weekend report (of sorts)
>Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:33:17 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Hi All,
>
>My wife and I finally made it out this past weekend.   Unfortunately 
>because of the logistics of getting a babysitter we don't always have a 
>choice about what night to go out.  That meant missing Mighty Breaks on 
>Friday, and so we decided to attend a Sunset/GGL (Green Gorilla Lounge) 
>"underground" called Fully Loaded at Gingerbread.
>
>Now I don't want to be accused of being hater here.  I consider myself to 
>mostly be a house head, so I was looking forward to this party.  I've been 
>a fan of both crews for years and I've attended numerous Sunset and GGL 
>parties previously.  However, I did not like this party.  The venue was 
>alright, featuring relatively safe parking ($3) across the street, decent 
>bathrooms and acceptable sound.  When we got there M3 was spinning some 
>half decent house.  I enjoyed the projections and so forth.  But it wasn't 
>too crowded and the vibe wasn't really clicking.
>
>After a while of chilling, it was time for one of the bands, Bobbie Marie, 
>to play.  I'm pretty openminded musically and I like a lot of different 
>styles.  I like live percussion and instruments at aprties too.  However, I 
>don't know if I just didn't get this band, but I thought they were awful.  
>Sort of bad industrial/punk crossed with Devo-esque vocals also done badly. 
>  Almost immediately the downstairs dance floor was cleared,and we (and 
>most everyone else) fled upstairs where Sharon Buck was spinning some nice 
>funky tracks.  People upstairs were dancing while the hideous grating of 
>nails and chalkboards continued downstairs.  For a bit it seemed like the 
>upstairs might go off, but then suddenly the crowd began to thin out.  
>Apparently the downstairs was now open again as the second band, Landshark, 
>set up.  We migrated downstairs, hoping the vibe would solidfy, but it just 
>was even more diffused.  We decided to leave and go elsewhere.
>
>Headed over towards the Aspire 8 yr. party which we found easily.  While 
>looking for parking we saw a lot of very sketchy characters leaving the 
>venue and lurking around the side streets in the area.  I didn't really 
>think parking there was such a great plan. We were probably over reacting, 
>but we decided to move on anyway.  I headed for Kontrol over at the Rx 
>Gallery, but it was after 3AM and by this point and my navigation abilities 
>were shot.  I couldn't find the Rx.  And my GPS navigation system seemed 
>more like the controls of an alien spacecraft than anything else. After a 
>few minuted of futile searching in the Tenderloin, we realized that the CD 
>in my car was sounding REAL GOOD right about then.  So we decided to head 
>for the beach and just enjoy the rest of the evening/morning sans party.
>
>Ok, we had a good time anyway, but this wasn't a good party. In fact I'd 
>say it was a good example of how to have a bad party.  Wrong people, wrong 
>music, wrong venue.  Timing of set changes badly managed.  Weird drink 
>system that encouraged people to drink more than they should (you had to 
>buy 3 drinks at a time for $10 including juice, water, soda, etc.)  Bleh.  
>I liked the venue however.
>
>We had intended to head over to Golden Gate Park for Shishkabeats Sunday, 
>but we were so sleepy.  Yawn.  We could hardly... Yawn... get out of bed.  
>Yawn. Snore.
>
>Peace,
>
>Peter
>
>
>
>
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Well right.  

I like Lance Desardi's mixes and some of his tracks.  I've heard some Landshark remixes that I liked.  But by the time they were setting up, we were ready to leave.  The party wasn't going anywhere.  So in the end I didn't hear Landshark.

The whole scene reminded me of this party we had in college circa 1980 called the Step On My Face party aka Beat Me, Fuck Me, Make Me Write Bad Checks.  There were even some guys in drag, but I didn't get the impression that they were actually drag queens.  It was more of a put on or something. 

Peter

----- Original Message ----
From: Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 9:05:18 AM
Subject: RE: [sfraves] weekend report (of sorts)

The 1st band you described sounds like pretty much every band/sound that 
gets played over at the Rickshaw. I highly recommend that NO ONE ever goes 
to that hipster nightmare of a place.

Landshark - that's Lance Desardi's band. Wewre they worth a fuck, or just as 
lame as "band # 1" ?




>From: <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: [sfraves] weekend report (of sorts)
>Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:33:17 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Hi All,
>
>My wife and I finally made it out this past weekend.   Unfortunately 
>because of the logistics of getting a babysitter we don't always have a 
>choice about what night to go out.  That meant missing Mighty Breaks on 
>Friday, and so we decided to attend a Sunset/GGL (Green Gorilla Lounge) 
>"underground" called Fully Loaded at Gingerbread.
>
>Now I don't want to be accused of being hater here.  I consider myself to 
>mostly be a house head, so I was looking forward to this party.  I've been 
>a fan of both crews for years and I've attended numerous Sunset and GGL 
>parties previously.  However, I did not like this party.  The venue was 
>alright, featuring relatively safe parking ($3) across the street, decent 
>bathrooms and acceptable sound.  When we got there M3 was spinning some 
>half decent house.  I enjoyed the projections and so forth.  But it wasn't 
>too crowded and the vibe wasn't really clicking.
>
>After a while of chilling, it was time for one of the bands, Bobbie Marie, 
>to play.  I'm pretty openminded musically and I like a lot of different 
>styles.  I like live percussion and instruments at aprties too.  However, I 
>don't know if I just didn't get this band, but I thought they were awful.  
>Sort of bad industrial/punk crossed with Devo-esque vocals also done badly. 
>  Almost immediately the downstairs dance floor was cleared,and we (and 
>most everyone else) fled upstairs where Sharon Buck was spinning some nice 
>funky tracks.  People upstairs were dancing while the hideous grating of 
>nails and chalkboards continued downstairs.  For a bit it seemed like the 
>upstairs might go off, but then suddenly the crowd began to thin out.  
>Apparently the downstairs was now open again as the second band, Landshark, 
>set up.  We migrated downstairs, hoping the vibe would solidfy, but it just 
>was even more diffused.  We decided to leave and go elsewhere.
>
>Headed over towards the Aspire 8 yr. party which we found easily.  While 
>looking for parking we saw a lot of very sketchy characters leaving the 
>venue and lurking around the side streets in the area.  I didn't really 
>think parking there was such a great plan. We were probably over reacting, 
>but we decided to move on anyway.  I headed for Kontrol over at the Rx 
>Gallery, but it was after 3AM and by this point and my navigation abilities 
>were shot.  I couldn't find the Rx.  And my GPS navigation system seemed 
>more like the controls of an alien spacecraft than anything else. After a 
>few minuted of futile searching in the Tenderloin, we realized that the CD 
>in my car was sounding REAL GOOD right about then.  So we decided to head 
>for the beach and just enjoy the rest of the evening/morning sans party.
>
>Ok, we had a good time anyway, but this wasn't a good party. In fact I'd 
>say it was a good example of how to have a bad party.  Wrong people, wrong 
>music, wrong venue.  Timing of set changes badly managed.  Weird drink 
>system that encouraged people to drink more than they should (you had to 
>buy 3 drinks at a time for $10 including juice, water, soda, etc.)  Bleh.  
>I liked the venue however.
>
>We had intended to head over to Golden Gate Park for Shishkabeats Sunday, 
>but we were so sleepy.  Yawn.  We could hardly... Yawn... get out of bed.  
>Yawn. Snore.
>
>Peace,
>
>Peter
>
>
>
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Hipsters. God do I loathe them!!!




>From: <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>To: Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] weekend report (of sorts)
>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:27:27 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Well right.
>
>I like Lance Desardi's mixes and some of his tracks.  I've heard some 
>Landshark remixes that I liked.  But by the time they were setting up, we 
>were ready to leave.  The party wasn't going anywhere.  So in the end I 
>didn't hear Landshark.
>
>The whole scene reminded me of this party we had in college circa 1980 
>called the Step On My Face party aka Beat Me, Fuck Me, Make Me Write Bad 
>Checks.  There were even some guys in drag, but I didn't get the impression 
>that they were actually drag queens.  It was more of a put on or something.
>
>Peter
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
>To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 9:05:18 AM
>Subject: RE: [sfraves] weekend report (of sorts)
>
>The 1st band you described sounds like pretty much every band/sound that
>gets played over at the Rickshaw. I highly recommend that NO ONE ever goes
>to that hipster nightmare of a place.
>
>Landshark - that's Lance Desardi's band. Wewre they worth a fuck, or just 
>as
>lame as "band # 1" ?
>
>
>
>
> >From: <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: [sfraves] weekend report (of sorts)
> >Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:33:17 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Hi All,
> >
> >My wife and I finally made it out this past weekend.   Unfortunately
> >because of the logistics of getting a babysitter we don't always have a
> >choice about what night to go out.  That meant missing Mighty Breaks on
> >Friday, and so we decided to attend a Sunset/GGL (Green Gorilla Lounge)
> >"underground" called Fully Loaded at Gingerbread.
> >
> >Now I don't want to be accused of being hater here.  I consider myself to
> >mostly be a house head, so I was looking forward to this party.  I've 
>been
> >a fan of both crews for years and I've attended numerous Sunset and GGL
> >parties previously.  However, I did not like this party.  The venue was
> >alright, featuring relatively safe parking ($3) across the street, decent
> >bathrooms and acceptable sound.  When we got there M3 was spinning some
> >half decent house.  I enjoyed the projections and so forth.  But it 
>wasn't
> >too crowded and the vibe wasn't really clicking.
> >
> >After a while of chilling, it was time for one of the bands, Bobbie 
>Marie,
> >to play.  I'm pretty openminded musically and I like a lot of different
> >styles.  I like live percussion and instruments at aprties too.  However, 
>I
> >don't know if I just didn't get this band, but I thought they were awful.
> >Sort of bad industrial/punk crossed with Devo-esque vocals also done 
>badly.
> >  Almost immediately the downstairs dance floor was cleared,and we (and
> >most everyone else) fled upstairs where Sharon Buck was spinning some 
>nice
> >funky tracks.  People upstairs were dancing while the hideous grating of
> >nails and chalkboards continued downstairs.  For a bit it seemed like the
> >upstairs might go off, but then suddenly the crowd began to thin out.
> >Apparently the downstairs was now open again as the second band, 
>Landshark,
> >set up.  We migrated downstairs, hoping the vibe would solidfy, but it 
>just
> >was even more diffused.  We decided to leave and go elsewhere.
> >
> >Headed over towards the Aspire 8 yr. party which we found easily.  While
> >looking for parking we saw a lot of very sketchy characters leaving the
> >venue and lurking around the side streets in the area.  I didn't really
> >think parking there was such a great plan. We were probably over 
>reacting,
> >but we decided to move on anyway.  I headed for Kontrol over at the Rx
> >Gallery, but it was after 3AM and by this point and my navigation 
>abilities
> >were shot.  I couldn't find the Rx.  And my GPS navigation system seemed
> >more like the controls of an alien spacecraft than anything else. After a
> >few minuted of futile searching in the Tenderloin, we realized that the 
>CD
> >in my car was sounding REAL GOOD right about then.  So we decided to head
> >for the beach and just enjoy the rest of the evening/morning sans party.
> >
> >Ok, we had a good time anyway, but this wasn't a good party. In fact I'd
> >say it was a good example of how to have a bad party.  Wrong people, 
>wrong
> >music, wrong venue.  Timing of set changes badly managed.  Weird drink
> >system that encouraged people to drink more than they should (you had to
> >buy 3 drinks at a time for $10 including juice, water, soda, etc.)  Bleh.
> >I liked the venue however.
> >
> >We had intended to head over to Golden Gate Park for Shishkabeats Sunday,
> >but we were so sleepy.  Yawn.  We could hardly... Yawn... get out of bed.
> >Yawn. Snore.
> >
> >Peace,
> >
> >Peter
> >
> >
> >
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Actually the members of Bobbie Marie & Landshark were mostly the same. A few
guitarists less for Landshark, and Lance doing vocals instead of keyboards.

I have to say, it was what I'd call "hipster house." Landshark was pretty OK
- they did play "tie me up" which of course, rocked. Sadly, they played that
towards the end of their set, and after a lot of my friends had  left. Alas.

The music picked up a lot after that - Anthony was dropping the heat and
then galen finished up (and played a track that anthony had just played 20
minutes prior).

I looked for you to say Hi, but the guy in the orange shirt said his name
was not Peter, but could be whatever I wanted it to be. After that I gave
up.

Yep, the drink situation was pretty wonky, but with a few friends, we all
kept nicely toasted. I rocked my earplugs, and I had a pretty good time
overall.


~juju

On 8/23/06, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Well right.
>
> I like Lance Desardi's mixes and some of his tracks.  I've heard some
> Landshark remixes that I liked.  But by the time they were setting up, we
> were ready to leave.  The party wasn't going anywhere.  So in the end I
> didn't hear Landshark.
>
> The whole scene reminded me of this party we had in college circa 1980
> called the Step On My Face party aka Beat Me, Fuck Me, Make Me Write Bad
> Checks.  There were even some guys in drag, but I didn't get the impression
> that they were actually drag queens.  It was more of a put on or something.
>
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 9:05:18 AM
> Subject: RE: [sfraves] weekend report (of sorts)
>
> The 1st band you described sounds like pretty much every band/sound that
> gets played over at the Rickshaw. I highly recommend that NO ONE ever goes
> to that hipster nightmare of a place.
>
> Landshark - that's Lance Desardi's band. Wewre they worth a fuck, or just
> as
> lame as "band # 1" ?
>
>
>
>
> >From: <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: [sfraves] weekend report (of sorts)
> >Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:33:17 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Hi All,
> >
> >My wife and I finally made it out this past weekend.   Unfortunately
> >because of the logistics of getting a babysitter we don't always have a
> >choice about what night to go out.  That meant missing Mighty Breaks on
> >Friday, and so we decided to attend a Sunset/GGL (Green Gorilla Lounge)
> >"underground" called Fully Loaded at Gingerbread.
> >
> >Now I don't want to be accused of being hater here.  I consider myself to
> >mostly be a house head, so I was looking forward to this party.  I've
> been
> >a fan of both crews for years and I've attended numerous Sunset and GGL
> >parties previously.  However, I did not like this party.  The venue was
> >alright, featuring relatively safe parking ($3) across the street, decent
> >bathrooms and acceptable sound.  When we got there M3 was spinning some
> >half decent house.  I enjoyed the projections and so forth.  But it
> wasn't
> >too crowded and the vibe wasn't really clicking.
> >
> >After a while of chilling, it was time for one of the bands, Bobbie
> Marie,
> >to play.  I'm pretty openminded musically and I like a lot of different
> >styles.  I like live percussion and instruments at aprties too.  However,
> I
> >don't know if I just didn't get this band, but I thought they were awful.
> >Sort of bad industrial/punk crossed with Devo-esque vocals also done
> badly.
> >  Almost immediately the downstairs dance floor was cleared,and we (and
> >most everyone else) fled upstairs where Sharon Buck was spinning some
> nice
> >funky tracks.  People upstairs were dancing while the hideous grating of
> >nails and chalkboards continued downstairs.  For a bit it seemed like the
> >upstairs might go off, but then suddenly the crowd began to thin out.
> >Apparently the downstairs was now open again as the second band,
> Landshark,
> >set up.  We migrated downstairs, hoping the vibe would solidfy, but it
> just
> >was even more diffused.  We decided to leave and go elsewhere.
> >
> >Headed over towards the Aspire 8 yr. party which we found easily.  While
> >looking for parking we saw a lot of very sketchy characters leaving the
> >venue and lurking around the side streets in the area.  I didn't really
> >think parking there was such a great plan. We were probably over
> reacting,
> >but we decided to move on anyway.  I headed for Kontrol over at the Rx
> >Gallery, but it was after 3AM and by this point and my navigation
> abilities
> >were shot.  I couldn't find the Rx.  And my GPS navigation system seemed
> >more like the controls of an alien spacecraft than anything else. After a
> >few minuted of futile searching in the Tenderloin, we realized that the
> CD
> >in my car was sounding REAL GOOD right about then.  So we decided to head
> >for the beach and just enjoy the rest of the evening/morning sans party.
> >
> >Ok, we had a good time anyway, but this wasn't a good party. In fact I'd
> >say it was a good example of how to have a bad party.  Wrong people,
> wrong
> >music, wrong venue.  Timing of set changes badly managed.  Weird drink
> >system that encouraged people to drink more than they should (you had to
> >buy 3 drinks at a time for $10 including juice, water, soda, etc.)  Bleh.
> >I liked the venue however.
> >
> >We had intended to head over to Golden Gate Park for Shishkabeats Sunday,
> >but we were so sleepy.  Yawn.  We could hardly... Yawn... get out of bed.
> >Yawn. Snore.
> >
> >Peace,
> >
> >Peter
> >
> >
> >
> >
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You mean that line didn't work?  LOL

Sorry I missed you Danielle and glad you had a good time.

Peace,

Peter

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Actually the members of Bobbie Marie & Landshark were mostly the same. A few
guitarists less for Landshark, and Lance doing vocals instead of keyboards.

I have to say, it was what I'd call "hipster house." Landshark was pretty OK
- they did play "tie me up" which of course, rocked. Sadly, they played that
towards the end of their set, and after a lot of my friends had  left. Alas.

The music picked up a lot after that - Anthony was dropping the heat and
then galen finished up (and played a track that anthony had just played 20
minutes prior).

I looked for you to say Hi, but the guy in the orange shirt said his name
was not Peter, but could be whatever I wanted it to be. After that I gave
up.

Yep, the drink situation was pretty wonky, but with a few friends, we all
kept nicely toasted. I rocked my earplugs, and I had a pretty good time
overall.


~juju

On 8/23/06, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Well right.
>
> I like Lance Desardi's mixes and some of his tracks.  I've heard some
> Landshark remixes that I liked.  But by the time they were setting up, we
> were ready to leave.  The party wasn't going anywhere.  So in the end I
> didn't hear Landshark.
>
> The whole scene reminded me of this party we had in college circa 1980
> called the Step On My Face party aka Beat Me, Fuck Me, Make Me Write Bad
> Checks.  There were even some guys in drag, but I didn't get the impression
> that they were actually drag queens.  It was more of a put on or something.
>
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 9:05:18 AM
> Subject: RE: [sfraves] weekend report (of sorts)
>
> The 1st band you described sounds like pretty much every band/sound that
> gets played over at the Rickshaw. I highly recommend that NO ONE ever goes
> to that hipster nightmare of a place.
>
> Landshark - that's Lance Desardi's band. Wewre they worth a fuck, or just
> as
> lame as "band # 1" ?
>
>
>
>
> >From: <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: [sfraves] weekend report (of sorts)
> >Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:33:17 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Hi All,
> >
> >My wife and I finally made it out this past weekend.   Unfortunately
> >because of the logistics of getting a babysitter we don't always have a
> >choice about what night to go out.  That meant missing Mighty Breaks on
> >Friday, and so we decided to attend a Sunset/GGL (Green Gorilla Lounge)
> >"underground" called Fully Loaded at Gingerbread.
> >
> >Now I don't want to be accused of being hater here.  I consider myself to
> >mostly be a house head, so I was looking forward to this party.  I've
> been
> >a fan of both crews for years and I've attended numerous Sunset and GGL
> >parties previously.  However, I did not like this party.  The venue was
> >alright, featuring relatively safe parking ($3) across the street, decent
> >bathrooms and acceptable sound.  When we got there M3 was spinning some
> >half decent house.  I enjoyed the projections and so forth.  But it
> wasn't
> >too crowded and the vibe wasn't really clicking.
> >
> >After a while of chilling, it was time for one of the bands, Bobbie
> Marie,
> >to play.  I'm pretty openminded musically and I like a lot of different
> >styles.  I like live percussion and instruments at aprties too.  However,
> I
> >don't know if I just didn't get this band, but I thought they were awful.
> >Sort of bad industrial/punk crossed with Devo-esque vocals also done
> badly.
> >  Almost immediately the downstairs dance floor was cleared,and we (and
> >most everyone else) fled upstairs where Sharon Buck was spinning some
> nice
> >funky tracks.  People upstairs were dancing while the hideous grating of
> >nails and chalkboards continued downstairs.  For a bit it seemed like the
> >upstairs might go off, but then suddenly the crowd began to thin out.
> >Apparently the downstairs was now open again as the second band,
> Landshark,
> >set up.  We migrated downstairs, hoping the vibe would solidfy, but it
> just
> >was even more diffused.  We decided to leave and go elsewhere.
> >
> >Headed over towards the Aspire 8 yr. party which we found easily.  While
> >looking for parking we saw a lot of very sketchy characters leaving the
> >venue and lurking around the side streets in the area.  I didn't really
> >think parking there was such a great plan. We were probably over
> reacting,
> >but we decided to move on anyway.  I headed for Kontrol over at the Rx
> >Gallery, but it was after 3AM and by this point and my navigation
> abilities
> >were shot.  I couldn't find the Rx.  And my GPS navigation system seemed
> >more like the controls of an alien spacecraft than anything else. After a
> >few minuted of futile searching in the Tenderloin, we realized that the
> CD
> >in my car was sounding REAL GOOD right about then.  So we decided to head
> >for the beach and just enjoy the rest of the evening/morning sans party.
> >
> >Ok, we had a good time anyway, but this wasn't a good party. In fact I'd
> >say it was a good example of how to have a bad party.  Wrong people,
> wrong
> >music, wrong venue.  Timing of set changes badly managed.  Weird drink
> >system that encouraged people to drink more than they should (you had to
> >buy 3 drinks at a time for $10 including juice, water, soda, etc.)  Bleh.
> >I liked the venue however.
> >
> >We had intended to head over to Golden Gate Park for Shishkabeats Sunday,
> >but we were so sleepy.  Yawn.  We could hardly... Yawn... get out of bed.
> >Yawn. Snore.
> >
> >Peace,
> >
> >Peter
> >
> >
> >
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ok folks, i just re-subscribed a second ago, so forgive me if this has
already been discussed, but....

I just noticed that Karina posted some "goodbye cruel world" message last
night on MySpace!!  WTF!?!

somebody PLEASE tell me this was just some kind of a twisted joke or a
myspace hack or something!

does anyone know if she's ok?

i'm honestly just assuming this was just a very f'd up hack of her account
or something, but man....SUICIDE IS NO JOKING MANNER!!!

sorry if i'm spazzing out, but something like that should never be taken
lightly. if anyone knows what's up, please let me know.  i don't even know
Karina that well, but i know i don't want her dead!

thanks.

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the number i have on my cell...is disconnected!!!!

does anyone here have a new number for her????

`adriana

Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com> wrote: ok folks, i just re-subscribed a second ago, so forgive me if this has
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I just noticed that Karina posted some "goodbye cruel world" message last
night on MySpace!!  WTF!?!

somebody PLEASE tell me this was just some kind of a twisted joke or a
myspace hack or something!

does anyone know if she's ok?

i'm honestly just assuming this was just a very f'd up hack of her account
or something, but man....SUICIDE IS NO JOKING MANNER!!!

sorry if i'm spazzing out, but something like that should never be taken
lightly. if anyone knows what's up, please let me know.  i don't even know
Karina that well, but i know i don't want her dead!

thanks.

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i looked over all the bulletins right now and i didnt see anything that she posted..
i have so many ppl that post bulletins...so i'm still looking...



Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com> wrote: ok folks, i just re-subscribed a second ago, so forgive me if this has
already been discussed, but....

I just noticed that Karina posted some "goodbye cruel world" message last
night on MySpace!!  WTF!?!

somebody PLEASE tell me this was just some kind of a twisted joke or a
myspace hack or something!

does anyone know if she's ok?

i'm honestly just assuming this was just a very f'd up hack of her account
or something, but man....SUICIDE IS NO JOKING MANNER!!!

sorry if i'm spazzing out, but something like that should never be taken
lightly. if anyone knows what's up, please let me know.  i don't even know
Karina that well, but i know i don't want her dead!

thanks.

----->GB


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no, its there. 11:43PM 8/22

On 8/23/06, adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com> wrote:
> i looked over all the bulletins right now and i didnt see anything that s=
he posted..
> i have so many ppl that post bulletins...so i'm still looking...
>
>
>
> Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com> wrote: ok folks, i just re-subscribed a sec=
ond ago, so forgive me if this has
> already been discussed, but....
>
> I just noticed that Karina posted some "goodbye cruel world" message last
> night on MySpace!!  WTF!?!
>
> somebody PLEASE tell me this was just some kind of a twisted joke or a
> myspace hack or something!
>
> does anyone know if she's ok?
>
> i'm honestly just assuming this was just a very f'd up hack of her accoun=
t
> or something, but man....SUICIDE IS NO JOKING MANNER!!!
>
> sorry if i'm spazzing out, but something like that should never be taken
> lightly. if anyone knows what's up, please let me know.  i don't even kno=
w
> Karina that well, but i know i don't want her dead!
>
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>
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i just found it....
ummm...i'm gonna call her...not sure if she still has the same number..

Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com> wrote: ok folks, i just re-subscribed a second ago, so forgive me if this has
already been discussed, but....

I just noticed that Karina posted some "goodbye cruel world" message last
night on MySpace!!  WTF!?!

somebody PLEASE tell me this was just some kind of a twisted joke or a
myspace hack or something!

does anyone know if she's ok?

i'm honestly just assuming this was just a very f'd up hack of her account
or something, but man....SUICIDE IS NO JOKING MANNER!!!

sorry if i'm spazzing out, but something like that should never be taken
lightly. if anyone knows what's up, please let me know.  i don't even know
Karina that well, but i know i don't want her dead!

thanks.

----->GB


 		
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina

What exactly did she say?  There's a difference between depressed ramblings=
 and a suicide note. =20

Anyone know her home address?  Someone should go check on her or notify the=
 police if you think she's serious.

Peter

----- Original Message ----
From: Tala ... <technotala@gmail.com>
To: adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com>
Cc: Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com>; * SFRAVES email list <sfraves@hyperreal.=
org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 1:42:23 PM
Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina

no, its there. 11:43PM 8/22

On 8/23/06, adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com> wrote:
> i looked over all the bulletins right now and i didnt see anything that s=
he posted..
> i have so many ppl that post bulletins...so i'm still looking...
>
>
>
> Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com> wrote: ok folks, i just re-subscribed a sec=
ond ago, so forgive me if this has
> already been discussed, but....
>
> I just noticed that Karina posted some "goodbye cruel world" message last
> night on MySpace!!  WTF!?!
>
> somebody PLEASE tell me this was just some kind of a twisted joke or a
> myspace hack or something!
>
> does anyone know if she's ok?
>
> i'm honestly just assuming this was just a very f'd up hack of her accoun=
t
> or something, but man....SUICIDE IS NO JOKING MANNER!!!
>
> sorry if i'm spazzing out, but something like that should never be taken
> lightly. if anyone knows what's up, please let me know.  i don't even kno=
w
> Karina that well, but i know i don't want her dead!
>
> thanks.
>
> ----->GB
>
>
>  __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> http://mail.yahoo.com
>


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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina

Date:  =09Aug 22, 2006 11:43 PM
Subject =09goodbye
Body: =09cruel world.

I send my love to all the beautiful people who have touched me along
the way.. I will never forget you! thanks for your love and support,
those who have been there really mean the world to me and I will
always appreciate your kindness along the way...




On 8/23/06, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> What exactly did she say?  There's a difference between depressed ramblin=
gs and a suicide note.
>
> Anyone know her home address?  Someone should go check on her or notify t=
he police if you think she's serious.
>
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Tala ... <technotala@gmail.com>
> To: adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com>
> Cc: Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com>; * SFRAVES email list <sfraves@hyperrea=
l.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 1:42:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina
>
> no, its there. 11:43PM 8/22
>
> On 8/23/06, adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > i looked over all the bulletins right now and i didnt see anything that=
 she posted..
> > i have so many ppl that post bulletins...so i'm still looking...
> >
> >
> >
> > Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com> wrote: ok folks, i just re-subscribed a s=
econd ago, so forgive me if this has
> > already been discussed, but....
> >
> > I just noticed that Karina posted some "goodbye cruel world" message la=
st
> > night on MySpace!!  WTF!?!
> >
> > somebody PLEASE tell me this was just some kind of a twisted joke or a
> > myspace hack or something!
> >
> > does anyone know if she's ok?
> >
> > i'm honestly just assuming this was just a very f'd up hack of her acco=
unt
> > or something, but man....SUICIDE IS NO JOKING MANNER!!!
> >
> > sorry if i'm spazzing out, but something like that should never be take=
n
> > lightly. if anyone knows what's up, please let me know.  i don't even k=
now
> > Karina that well, but i know i don't want her dead!
> >
> > thanks.
> >
> > ----->GB
> >
> >
> >  __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
> --
> Main Entry: 1ta=B7la
> Pronunciation: 't=E4-l&
> Function: noun
> Etymology: Sanskrit tAla, literally, hand-clapping
> : one of the ancient traditional rhythmic patterns of Indian music --
> compare RAGA
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she moved...i dont have her current address...nor her number..

Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote: Date:   Aug 22, 2006 11:43 PM
Subject  goodbye
Body:  cruel world.

I send my love to all the beautiful people who have touched me along
the way.. I will never forget you! thanks for your love and support,
those who have been there really mean the world to me and I will
always appreciate your kindness along the way...




On 8/23/06, dangrsmind@yahoo.com  wrote:
> What exactly did she say?  There's a difference between depressed ramblings and a suicide note.
>
> Anyone know her home address?  Someone should go check on her or notify the police if you think she's serious.
>
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Tala ... 
> To: adriana 
> Cc: Greg Bird ; * SFRAVES email list 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 1:42:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina
>
> no, its there. 11:43PM 8/22
>
> On 8/23/06, adriana  wrote:
> > i looked over all the bulletins right now and i didnt see anything that she posted..
> > i have so many ppl that post bulletins...so i'm still looking...
> >
> >
> >
> > Greg Bird  wrote: ok folks, i just re-subscribed a second ago, so forgive me if this has
> > already been discussed, but....
> >
> > I just noticed that Karina posted some "goodbye cruel world" message last
> > night on MySpace!!  WTF!?!
> >
> > somebody PLEASE tell me this was just some kind of a twisted joke or a
> > myspace hack or something!
> >
> > does anyone know if she's ok?
> >
> > i'm honestly just assuming this was just a very f'd up hack of her account
> > or something, but man....SUICIDE IS NO JOKING MANNER!!!
> >
> > sorry if i'm spazzing out, but something like that should never be taken
> > lightly. if anyone knows what's up, please let me know.  i don't even know
> > Karina that well, but i know i don't want her dead!
> >
> > thanks.
> >
> > ----->GB
> >
> >
> >  __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
> --
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> Pronunciation: 'tä-l&
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> Etymology: Sanskrit tAla, literally, hand-clapping
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina

Yea, yesterday she was looking for someone with a truck to help her move the 
rest of her crap to her new place...I can't imagine she'd go from looking 
for a truck to that. And I never saw that bulletin either...




>From: adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com>
>To: Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com>,  * SFRAVES email list 
><sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina
>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:34:06 -0700 (PDT)
>
>i looked over all the bulletins right now and i didnt see anything that she 
>posted..
>i have so many ppl that post bulletins...so i'm still looking...
>
>
>
>Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com> wrote: ok folks, i just re-subscribed a 
>second ago, so forgive me if this has
>already been discussed, but....
>
>I just noticed that Karina posted some "goodbye cruel world" message last
>night on MySpace!!  WTF!?!
>
>somebody PLEASE tell me this was just some kind of a twisted joke or a
>myspace hack or something!
>
>does anyone know if she's ok?
>
>i'm honestly just assuming this was just a very f'd up hack of her account
>or something, but man....SUICIDE IS NO JOKING MANNER!!!
>
>sorry if i'm spazzing out, but something like that should never be taken
>lightly. if anyone knows what's up, please let me know.  i don't even know
>Karina that well, but i know i don't want her dead!
>
>thanks.
>
>----->GB
>
>
>  __________________________________________________
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>http://mail.yahoo.com

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina

Hmm.  Seems like someone should try to contact her, bc she might just have =
meant she's signing off of MySpace.  Bu tI agree with Greg, this isn't some=
thing to be taken lightly.

Did she post anything on Tribe.net or elsewhere?

If someone calls the cops and she's fine, they might still 5150 her or sear=
ch her house.  Assuming they find her of course.

Anybody seen her recently or know her well enough to go visit home?

Peter


----- Original Message ----
From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
Cc: SFRAVES email list <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 1:53:36 PM
Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina

Date:      Aug 22, 2006 11:43 PM
Subject     goodbye
Body:     cruel world.

I send my love to all the beautiful people who have touched me along
the way.. I will never forget you! thanks for your love and support,
those who have been there really mean the world to me and I will
always appreciate your kindness along the way...




On 8/23/06, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> What exactly did she say?  There's a difference between depressed ramblin=
gs and a suicide note.
>
> Anyone know her home address?  Someone should go check on her or notify t=
he police if you think she's serious.
>
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Tala ... <technotala@gmail.com>
> To: adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com>
> Cc: Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com>; * SFRAVES email list <sfraves@hyperrea=
l.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 1:42:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina
>
> no, its there. 11:43PM 8/22
>
> On 8/23/06, adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > i looked over all the bulletins right now and i didnt see anything that=
 she posted..
> > i have so many ppl that post bulletins...so i'm still looking...
> >
> >
> >
> > Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com> wrote: ok folks, i just re-subscribed a s=
econd ago, so forgive me if this has
> > already been discussed, but....
> >
> > I just noticed that Karina posted some "goodbye cruel world" message la=
st
> > night on MySpace!!  WTF!?!
> >
> > somebody PLEASE tell me this was just some kind of a twisted joke or a
> > myspace hack or something!
> >
> > does anyone know if she's ok?
> >
> > i'm honestly just assuming this was just a very f'd up hack of her acco=
unt
> > or something, but man....SUICIDE IS NO JOKING MANNER!!!
> >
> > sorry if i'm spazzing out, but something like that should never be take=
n
> > lightly. if anyone knows what's up, please let me know.  i don't even k=
now
> > Karina that well, but i know i don't want her dead!
> >
> > thanks.
> >
> > ----->GB
> >
> >
> >  __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
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> Pronunciation: 't=C3=A4-l&
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August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina

Seems like one doesn't go through the trouble of moving right before doing away with themselves, but what do I know.

Anyone know where her new residence is?
 
 Peace,
 
 Peter

----- Original Message ----
From: Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
To: eesiad1@yahoo.com; bird415@gmail.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 1:58:16 PM
Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina

Yea, yesterday she was looking for someone with a truck to help her move the 
rest of her crap to her new place...I can't imagine she'd go from looking 
for a truck to that. And I never saw that bulletin either...




>From: adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com>
>To: Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com>,  * SFRAVES email list 
><sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina
>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:34:06 -0700 (PDT)
>
>i looked over all the bulletins right now and i didnt see anything that she 
>posted..
>i have so many ppl that post bulletins...so i'm still looking...
>
>
>
>Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com> wrote: ok folks, i just re-subscribed a 
>second ago, so forgive me if this has
>already been discussed, but....
>
>I just noticed that Karina posted some "goodbye cruel world" message last
>night on MySpace!!  WTF!?!
>
>somebody PLEASE tell me this was just some kind of a twisted joke or a
>myspace hack or something!
>
>does anyone know if she's ok?
>
>i'm honestly just assuming this was just a very f'd up hack of her account
>or something, but man....SUICIDE IS NO JOKING MANNER!!!
>
>sorry if i'm spazzing out, but something like that should never be taken
>lightly. if anyone knows what's up, please let me know.  i don't even know
>Karina that well, but i know i don't want her dead!
>
>thanks.
>
>----->GB
>
>
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moving from palo alto to mountain view...
i looked at her tribe, live journal, friendster, orkut, mydjspace, multiply and nothing...besides the bulletin on myspace..

:(



dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: Seems like one doesn't go through the trouble of moving right before doing away with themselves, but what do I know.

Anyone know where her new residence is?
 
 Peace,
 
 Peter

----- Original Message ----
From: Van Mundegaarde 
To: eesiad1@yahoo.com; bird415@gmail.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 1:58:16 PM
Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina

Yea, yesterday she was looking for someone with a truck to help her move the 
rest of her crap to her new place...I can't imagine she'd go from looking 
for a truck to that. And I never saw that bulletin either...




>From: adriana 
>To: Greg Bird ,  * SFRAVES email list 
>
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina
>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:34:06 -0700 (PDT)
>
>i looked over all the bulletins right now and i didnt see anything that she 
>posted..
>i have so many ppl that post bulletins...so i'm still looking...
>
>
>
>Greg Bird  wrote: ok folks, i just re-subscribed a 
>second ago, so forgive me if this has
>already been discussed, but....
>
>I just noticed that Karina posted some "goodbye cruel world" message last
>night on MySpace!!  WTF!?!
>
>somebody PLEASE tell me this was just some kind of a twisted joke or a
>myspace hack or something!
>
>does anyone know if she's ok?
>
>i'm honestly just assuming this was just a very f'd up hack of her account
>or something, but man....SUICIDE IS NO JOKING MANNER!!!
>
>sorry if i'm spazzing out, but something like that should never be taken
>lightly. if anyone knows what's up, please let me know.  i don't even know
>Karina that well, but i know i don't want her dead!
>
>thanks.
>
>----->GB
>
>
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her last posts to tribe seem to be from yesterday
afternoon, but nothing out of the ordinary...
--- dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:

> Hmm.  Seems like someone should try to contact her,
> bc she might just have meant she's signing off of
> MySpace.  Bu tI agree with Greg, this isn't
> something to be taken lightly.
> 
> Did she post anything on Tribe.net or elsewhere?
> 
> If someone calls the cops and she's fine, they might
> still 5150 her or search her house.  Assuming they
> find her of course.
> 
> Anybody seen her recently or know her well enough to
> go visit home?
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> Cc: SFRAVES email list <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 1:53:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina
> 
> Date:      Aug 22, 2006 11:43 PM
> Subject     goodbye
> Body:     cruel world.
> 
> I send my love to all the beautiful people who have
> touched me along
> the way.. I will never forget you! thanks for your
> love and support,
> those who have been there really mean the world to
> me and I will
> always appreciate your kindness along the way...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/23/06, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > What exactly did she say?  There's a difference
> between depressed ramblings and a suicide note.
> >
> > Anyone know her home address?  Someone should go
> check on her or notify the police if you think she's
> serious.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Tala ... <technotala@gmail.com>
> > To: adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com>
> > Cc: Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com>; * SFRAVES email
> list <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 1:42:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina
> >
> > no, its there. 11:43PM 8/22
> >
> > On 8/23/06, adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > i looked over all the bulletins right now and i
> didnt see anything that she posted..
> > > i have so many ppl that post bulletins...so i'm
> still looking...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com> wrote: ok folks, i
> just re-subscribed a second ago, so forgive me if
> this has
> > > already been discussed, but....
> > >
> > > I just noticed that Karina posted some "goodbye
> cruel world" message last
> > > night on MySpace!!  WTF!?!
> > >
> > > somebody PLEASE tell me this was just some kind
> of a twisted joke or a
> > > myspace hack or something!
> > >
> > > does anyone know if she's ok?
> > >
> > > i'm honestly just assuming this was just a very
> f'd up hack of her account
> > > or something, but man....SUICIDE IS NO JOKING
> MANNER!!!
> > >
> > > sorry if i'm spazzing out, but something like
> that should never be taken
> > > lightly. if anyone knows what's up, please let
> me know.  i don't even know
> > > Karina that well, but i know i don't want her
> dead!
> > >
> > > thanks.
> > >
> > > ----->GB
> > >
> > >
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Subject: RE: [sfraves] Karina

I saw that Myspace bulletin as well.  Hmmm.  Any info would be great.

CJ 

-----Original Message-----
From: adriana [mailto:eesiad1@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 1:40 PM
To: Greg Bird; * SFRAVES email list
Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina

the number i have on my cell...is disconnected!!!!

does anyone here have a new number for her????

`adriana

Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com> wrote: ok folks, i just re-subscribed a second
ago, so forgive me if this has
already been discussed, but....

I just noticed that Karina posted some "goodbye cruel world" message last
night on MySpace!!  WTF!?!

somebody PLEASE tell me this was just some kind of a twisted joke or a
myspace hack or something!

does anyone know if she's ok?

i'm honestly just assuming this was just a very f'd up hack of her account
or something, but man....SUICIDE IS NO JOKING MANNER!!!

sorry if i'm spazzing out, but something like that should never be taken
lightly. if anyone knows what's up, please let me know.  i don't even know
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thanks.

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina

Here's a posting to Tribe.net from 2 days ago: http://sanfrancisco.tribe.ne=
t/listing/Help-w-Moving/san-francisco-ca/c88d139d-5100-4369-9555-c979085895=
3a

Looks like she's moving to Mountain View.

However, her previous two postings were seeking employment and seeking no c=
ost legal counsel.  That doesn't sound too good. =20

On the other hand she also posted on the 22nd, "I love the fact that I am v=
ery Oral" which sounds relatively good I think.

Ranger responded to her postings on Tribe...anyone heard from her after the=
 MySpace posting?

Peter

----- Original Message ----
From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
To: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
Cc: SFRAVES email list <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 1:59:17 PM
Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina

Hmm.  Seems like someone should try to contact her, bc she might just have =
meant she's signing off of MySpace.  Bu tI agree with Greg, this isn't some=
thing to be taken lightly.

Did she post anything on Tribe.net or elsewhere?

If someone calls the cops and she's fine, they might still 5150 her or sear=
ch her house.  Assuming they find her of course.

Anybody seen her recently or know her well enough to go visit home?

Peter


----- Original Message ----
From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
Cc: SFRAVES email list <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 1:53:36 PM
Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina

Date:      Aug 22, 2006 11:43 PM
Subject     goodbye
Body:     cruel world.

I send my love to all the beautiful people who have touched me along
the way.. I will never forget you! thanks for your love and support,
those who have been there really mean the world to me and I will
always appreciate your kindness along the way...




On 8/23/06, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> What exactly did she say?  There's a difference between depressed ramblin=
gs and a suicide note.
>
> Anyone know her home address?  Someone should go check on her or notify t=
he police if you think she's serious.
>
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Tala ... <technotala@gmail.com>
> To: adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com>
> Cc: Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com>; * SFRAVES email list <sfraves@hyperrea=
l.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 1:42:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina
>
> no, its there. 11:43PM 8/22
>
> On 8/23/06, adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > i looked over all the bulletins right now and i didnt see anything that=
 she posted..
> > i have so many ppl that post bulletins...so i'm still looking...
> >
> >
> >
> > Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com> wrote: ok folks, i just re-subscribed a s=
econd ago, so forgive me if this has
> > already been discussed, but....
> >
> > I just noticed that Karina posted some "goodbye cruel world" message la=
st
> > night on MySpace!!  WTF!?!
> >
> > somebody PLEASE tell me this was just some kind of a twisted joke or a
> > myspace hack or something!
> >
> > does anyone know if she's ok?
> >
> > i'm honestly just assuming this was just a very f'd up hack of her acco=
unt
> > or something, but man....SUICIDE IS NO JOKING MANNER!!!
> >
> > sorry if i'm spazzing out, but something like that should never be take=
n
> > lightly. if anyone knows what's up, please let me know.  i don't even k=
now
> > Karina that well, but i know i don't want her dead!
> >
> > thanks.
> >
> > ----->GB
> >
> >
> >  __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina

Somewhere in Mountain View from what I read....




>From: <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
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>To: Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>, eesiad1@yahoo.com,  
>bird415@gmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina
>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 14:03:16 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Seems like one doesn't go through the trouble of moving right before doing 
>away with themselves, but what do I know.
>
>Anyone know where her new residence is?
>
>  Peace,
>
>  Peter
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
>To: eesiad1@yahoo.com; bird415@gmail.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 1:58:16 PM
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina
>
>Yea, yesterday she was looking for someone with a truck to help her move 
>the
>rest of her crap to her new place...I can't imagine she'd go from looking
>for a truck to that. And I never saw that bulletin either...
>
>
>
>
> >From: adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com>
> >To: Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com>,  * SFRAVES email list
> ><sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina
> >Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:34:06 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >i looked over all the bulletins right now and i didnt see anything that 
>she
> >posted..
> >i have so many ppl that post bulletins...so i'm still looking...
> >
> >
> >
> >Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com> wrote: ok folks, i just re-subscribed a
> >second ago, so forgive me if this has
> >already been discussed, but....
> >
> >I just noticed that Karina posted some "goodbye cruel world" message last
> >night on MySpace!!  WTF!?!
> >
> >somebody PLEASE tell me this was just some kind of a twisted joke or a
> >myspace hack or something!
> >
> >does anyone know if she's ok?
> >
> >i'm honestly just assuming this was just a very f'd up hack of her 
>account
> >or something, but man....SUICIDE IS NO JOKING MANNER!!!
> >
> >sorry if i'm spazzing out, but something like that should never be taken
> >lightly. if anyone knows what's up, please let me know.  i don't even 
>know
> >Karina that well, but i know i don't want her dead!
> >
> >thanks.
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina

Also, Thievery Corporation's MySpace account got hacked the other day, and 
the people posted all sorts of annoying shit and BS bulletins - maybe since 
this is showing up nowhere other than MySpace it's another hack-job?

It'd still be nice to hear directly from Karina, but things seem a little 
fishy...




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>Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina
>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 14:13:34 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Here's a posting to Tribe.net from 2 days ago: 
>http://sanfrancisco.tribe.net/listing/Help-w-Moving/san-francisco-ca/c88d139d-5100-4369-9555-c9790858953a
>
>Looks like she's moving to Mountain View.
>
>However, her previous two postings were seeking employment and seeking no 
>cost legal counsel.  That doesn't sound too good.
>
>On the other hand she also posted on the 22nd, "I love the fact that I am 
>very Oral" which sounds relatively good I think.
>
>Ranger responded to her postings on Tribe...anyone heard from her after the 
>MySpace posting?
>
>Peter
>
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>Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 1:59:17 PM
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>
>Hmm.  Seems like someone should try to contact her, bc she might just have 
>meant she's signing off of MySpace.  Bu tI agree with Greg, this isn't 
>something to be taken lightly.
>
>Did she post anything on Tribe.net or elsewhere?
>
>If someone calls the cops and she's fine, they might still 5150 her or 
>search her house.  Assuming they find her of course.
>
>Anybody seen her recently or know her well enough to go visit home?
>
>Peter
>
>
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>
>Date:      Aug 22, 2006 11:43 PM
>Subject     goodbye
>Body:     cruel world.
>
>I send my love to all the beautiful people who have touched me along
>the way.. I will never forget you! thanks for your love and support,
>those who have been there really mean the world to me and I will
>always appreciate your kindness along the way...
>
>
>
>
>On 8/23/06, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > What exactly did she say?  There's a difference between depressed 
>ramblings and a suicide note.
> >
> > Anyone know her home address?  Someone should go check on her or notify 
>the police if you think she's serious.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Tala ... <technotala@gmail.com>
> > To: adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com>
> > Cc: Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com>; * SFRAVES email list 
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> > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 1:42:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina
> >
> > no, its there. 11:43PM 8/22
> >
> > On 8/23/06, adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > i looked over all the bulletins right now and i didnt see anything 
>that she posted..
> > > i have so many ppl that post bulletins...so i'm still looking...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com> wrote: ok folks, i just re-subscribed a 
>second ago, so forgive me if this has
> > > already been discussed, but....
> > >
> > > I just noticed that Karina posted some "goodbye cruel world" message 
>last
> > > night on MySpace!!  WTF!?!
> > >
> > > somebody PLEASE tell me this was just some kind of a twisted joke or a
> > > myspace hack or something!
> > >
> > > does anyone know if she's ok?
> > >
> > > i'm honestly just assuming this was just a very f'd up hack of her 
>account
> > > or something, but man....SUICIDE IS NO JOKING MANNER!!!
> > >
> > > sorry if i'm spazzing out, but something like that should never be 
>taken
> > > lightly. if anyone knows what's up, please let me know.  i don't even 
>know
> > > Karina that well, but i know i don't want her dead!
> > >
> > > thanks.
> > >
> > > ----->GB
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If you've known Karina Powers for any length of time, you know she's the =
last person who would ever commit suicide.  Think about all the uphill =
battles she's fought and hasn't once stopped taking huge strides up the =
mountain.

I'm disappointed in all of you.

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Most of us don't know her that well Nico. I've only met Karina once FTF.

Maybe you should contact her just to confirm you are correct.

Regards,

Peter

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If you've known Karina Powers for any length of time, you know she's the last person who would ever commit suicide.  Think about all the uphill battles she's fought and hasn't once stopped taking huge strides up the mountain.

I'm disappointed in all of you.

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Is that you, Boomerang?
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> Most of us don't know her that well Nico. I've only met Karina once FTF.
>
> Maybe you should contact her just to confirm you are correct.
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message ----
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> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 2:44:39 PM
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> If you've known Karina Powers for any length of time, you know she's the 
> last person who would ever commit suicide.  Think about all the uphill 
> battles she's fought and hasn't once stopped taking huge strides up the 
> mountain.
>
> I'm disappointed in all of you.
>
> love always
>
> n i c o
>
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Nope, I'm the other Peter.  Sandifer hasn't been around recently...

The Other Peter

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Is that you, Boomerang?
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> Most of us don't know her that well Nico. I've only met Karina once FTF.
>
> Maybe you should contact her just to confirm you are correct.
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: nico <nico@viberation.com>
> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 2:44:39 PM
> Subject: [sfraves] You're all drama queens WAS: Karina
>
> If you've known Karina Powers for any length of time, you know she's the 
> last person who would ever commit suicide.  Think about all the uphill 
> battles she's fought and hasn't once stopped taking huge strides up the 
> mountain.
>
> I'm disappointed in all of you.
>
> love always
>
> n i c o
>
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Hey man, I'm the one that started this thread, and I will admit that I don't
know Karina well at all.

All I know is that I saw what looked to possibly be a suicide note and
thought it better to be safe than sorry.

>From what I do know of Karina, I agree she doesn't at all seem the type to
just give up.  But that's exactly what I thought of my highschool Humanities
teacher too.  Depression and circumstance have ways of clouding
otherwise healthy minds.

I'm willing to wager 90% odds that this was just a hack or a cruel joke, but
let us not forget this is a human being's life we're talking about.

I'd rather you be disappointed that someone over-reacted than be heartbroken
at the loss of a loved one and the fact that no one cared enough to try to
do something about it.

Do you not agree?


-----> Greg




On 8/23/06, nico <nico@viberation.com> wrote:
>
> If you've known Karina Powers for any length of time, you know she's the
> last person who would ever commit suicide.  Think about all the uphill
> battles she's fought and hasn't once stopped taking huge strides up the
> mountain.
>
> I'm disappointed in all of you.
>
> love always
>
> n i c o
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At 01:49 PM 8/23/2006, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
>What exactly did she say?  There's a difference between depressed ramblings and a suicide note.  
>
>Anyone know her home address?  Someone should go check on her or notify the police if you think she's serious.
>
>Peter


I received a personal message from her on MSpace a few weeks ago indicating that she was moving -- being forced out of her home I gathered -- and she didn't know where she would end up.  I'll check and see if I can find the message.  As I recall it had some interim contact info.

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>----- Original Message ----
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>
>no, its there. 11:43PM 8/22
>
>On 8/23/06, adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> i looked over all the bulletins right now and i didnt see anything that she posted..
>> i have so many ppl that post bulletins...so i'm still looking...
>>
>>
>>
>> Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com> wrote: ok folks, i just re-subscribed a second ago, so forgive me if this has
>> already been discussed, but....
>>
>> I just noticed that Karina posted some "goodbye cruel world" message last
>> night on MySpace!!  WTF!?!
>>
>> somebody PLEASE tell me this was just some kind of a twisted joke or a
>> myspace hack or something!
>>
>> does anyone know if she's ok?
>>
>> i'm honestly just assuming this was just a very f'd up hack of her account
>> or something, but man....SUICIDE IS NO JOKING MANNER!!!
>>
>> sorry if i'm spazzing out, but something like that should never be taken
>> lightly. if anyone knows what's up, please let me know.  i don't even know
>> Karina that well, but i know i don't want her dead!
>>
>> thanks.
>>
>> ----->GB
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] You're all drama queens WAS: Karina

i saw that bulliten... i didn't know what to think of it... i mean.. i
agree w/ Nico to a certain extent... but I also agree w/ Peter to an
extent as well....

I've known Karina for like 6 years now & i her hippy ways wouldn't allow
her to off her life like that.... I do think she does Love life too much
to do that...

I don't think anyone would hack on her account & leave a message like that
either...

Oooh... Girl.. u best be alright.... if you're reading this.. please respond!
-- 
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nico wrote:
> Is that you, Boomerang?
> ----- Original Message -----
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>> Most of us don't know her that well Nico. I've only met Karina once FTF.
>>
>> Maybe you should contact her just to confirm you are correct.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: nico <nico@viberation.com>
>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 2:44:39 PM
>> Subject: [sfraves] You're all drama queens WAS: Karina
>>
>> If you've known Karina Powers for any length of time, you know she's the
>> last person who would ever commit suicide.  Think about all the uphill
>> battles she's fought and hasn't once stopped taking huge strides up the
>> mountain.
>>
>> I'm disappointed in all of you.
>>
>> love always
>>
>> n i c o
>>
>>
>>
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It was pretty irresponsible of you to start the thread.  Now you're =
making people worry and painting her in a light as someone that would =
commit suicide.  She's not. =20

And for someone that would wager 90% odds that this was a hack or a =
cruel joke, you seem 100% willing to throw this out there to people who =
don't even know her.

Next time, send direct e-mails. =20

"I'd rather you be disappointed that someone over-reacted than be =
heartbroken at the loss of a loved one and the fact that no one cared =
enough to try to do something about it."

So many things wrong with this.  First, if she's really gone, the =
heartbreak will be there.  Secondly, isn't it better to wait for truth =
rather than speculation?  All you're doing is feeding a fear.  Third, if =
she's gone already, there isn't anything you can do about it.  She =
already wrote the "suicide note".  Yeah, I disagree with you vehemently.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Greg Bird=20
  To: nico=20
  Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org=20
  Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 3:20 PM
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  Hey man, I'm the one that started this thread, and I will admit that I =
don't know Karina well at all.

  All I know is that I saw what looked to possibly be a suicide note and =
thought it better to be safe than sorry.

  From what I do know of Karina, I agree she doesn't at all seem the =
type to just give up.  But that's exactly what I thought of my =
highschool Humanities teacher too.  Depression and circumstance have =
ways of clouding otherwise healthy minds.=20

  I'm willing to wager 90% odds that this was just a hack or a cruel =
joke, but let us not forget this is a human being's life we're talking =
about.

  I'd rather you be disappointed that someone over-reacted than be =
heartbroken at the loss of a loved one and the fact that no one cared =
enough to try to do something about it.

  Do you not agree?


  -----> Greg



  =20
  On 8/23/06, nico <nico@viberation.com> wrote:=20
    If you've known Karina Powers for any length of time, you know she's =
the last person who would ever commit suicide.  Think about all the =
uphill battles she's fought and hasn't once stopped taking huge strides =
up the mountain.=20

    I'm disappointed in all of you.

    love always

    n i c o



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Link:

http://www.slumbermachine.com/SlumberMachine-IfeelThisWay.mp3


Concentrating on the basic element of life: air/breath and synapse firing
their pulses of electricity, the loud thought flying by, getting deeper with
every looping rhythm. The noise of life suddenly makes the basics disappear
as if they were never there, but in the end, we all return to the basics and
continue on breathing.

Prozac sucks ass, I never knew how crappy the withdrawal would be. The 5-HTP
doesn't seem to help, if anything just amplify my emotions. I am five blocks
away from returning to dxm after being sober for the last year and a half
sitting here with pinkeye in both eyes, a fever, soar throat, and lack of
will to live. Being dissociated would be a lovely way to die,



but not today.

-- 
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] You're all drama queens WAS: Karina

Relax- If I sent a message like that I'd want somebody to wonder if I was OK.  People wondering and worrying and trying to contact Karina is a healthy thing, until we all find out what's going on.

Looked like at least a cry for help, to me,
-g

----- Original Message ----
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To: Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com>
Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 3:36:46 PM
Subject: Re: [sfraves] You're all drama queens WAS: Karina

It was pretty irresponsible of you to start the thread.  Now you're making people worry and painting her in a light as someone that would commit suicide.  She's not.  

And for someone that would wager 90% odds that this was a hack or a cruel joke, you seem 100% willing to throw this out there to people who don't even know her.

Next time, send direct e-mails.  

"I'd rather you be disappointed that someone over-reacted than be heartbroken at the loss of a loved one and the fact that no one cared enough to try to do something about it."

So many things wrong with this.  First, if she's really gone, the heartbreak will be there.  Secondly, isn't it better to wait for truth rather than speculation?  All you're doing is feeding a fear.  Third, if she's gone already, there isn't anything you can do about it.  She already wrote the "suicide note".  Yeah, I disagree with you vehemently.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Greg Bird 
  To: nico 
  Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 3:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [sfraves] You're all drama queens WAS: Karina


  Hey man, I'm the one that started this thread, and I will admit that I don't know Karina well at all.

  All I know is that I saw what looked to possibly be a suicide note and thought it better to be safe than sorry.

  From what I do know of Karina, I agree she doesn't at all seem the type to just give up.  But that's exactly what I thought of my highschool Humanities teacher too.  Depression and circumstance have ways of clouding otherwise healthy minds. 

  I'm willing to wager 90% odds that this was just a hack or a cruel joke, but let us not forget this is a human being's life we're talking about.

  I'd rather you be disappointed that someone over-reacted than be heartbroken at the loss of a loved one and the fact that no one cared enough to try to do something about it.

  Do you not agree?


  -----> Greg



   
  On 8/23/06, nico <nico@viberation.com> wrote: 
    If you've known Karina Powers for any length of time, you know she's the last person who would ever commit suicide.  Think about all the uphill battles she's fought and hasn't once stopped taking huge strides up the mountain. 

    I'm disappointed in all of you.

    love always

    n i c o






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Subject: Re: [sfraves] You're all drama queens WAS: Karina

On Aug 23, 2006, at 3:36 PM, nico wrote:

> It was pretty irresponsible of you to start the thread.  Now you're  
> making people worry and painting her in a light as someone that  
> would commit suicide.  She's not.

IMO, thinking of a person as "someone who would or would not commit  
suicide" is very dangerous.

In any case, "Goodbye cruel world" and then not hearing anything from  
her when she is quite a frequent poster on all the social-network  
sites she's on, and her cell being disconnected?
I dunno Nico, I see that as a reasonable cause for concern.
I don't think anyone's painting her in any bad light at all- it's  
just that- concern.

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Subject: [sfraves] re: karina

anyone heard from her yet? i've seen posts like this
from her before. moving on from a bad situation,
putting it behind her, and yes, probably reaching out
for a little bit o' love....

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] You're all drama queens WAS: Karina

I think the point of Greg's posting was that someone might be able to contact her or check to see if she was OK, not a silly attempt to create drama.  Lord knows we all have enough drama these days.

I shouldn't speak for Greg, but if she posted the note on MySpace, and at this point there's no reason to assume otherwise, then she might be thinking about doing something dumb and there might be a chance to intervene and help her.

If she's fine, then no harm no foul.  None of us that "don't even know her" will think anything less of her.  I'm not clear why you think we would.

Apollo stated that she was being forced out of her home.  That's a very unpleasant piece of business and could lead the strongest of us to despair.  

Lets just confirm that she's OK and not start a flame war over this please.

Regards,

Peter

----- Original Message ----
From: nico <nico@viberation.com>
To: Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com>
Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 3:36:46 PM
Subject: Re: [sfraves] You're all drama queens WAS: Karina

It was pretty irresponsible of you to start the thread.  Now you're making people worry and painting her in a light as someone that would commit suicide.  She's not.  

And for someone that would wager 90% odds that this was a hack or a cruel joke, you seem 100% willing to throw this out there to people who don't even know her.

Next time, send direct e-mails.  

"I'd rather you be disappointed that someone over-reacted than be heartbroken at the loss of a loved one and the fact that no one cared enough to try to do something about it."

So many things wrong with this.  First, if she's really gone, the heartbreak will be there.  Secondly, isn't it better to wait for truth rather than speculation?  All you're doing is feeding a fear.  Third, if she's gone already, there isn't anything you can do about it.  She already wrote the "suicide note".  Yeah, I disagree with you vehemently.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Greg Bird 
  To: nico 
  Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 3:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [sfraves] You're all drama queens WAS: Karina


  Hey man, I'm the one that started this thread, and I will admit that I don't know Karina well at all.

  All I know is that I saw what looked to possibly be a suicide note and thought it better to be safe than sorry.

  From what I do know of Karina, I agree she doesn't at all seem the type to just give up.  But that's exactly what I thought of my highschool Humanities teacher too.  Depression and circumstance have ways of clouding otherwise healthy minds. 

  I'm willing to wager 90% odds that this was just a hack or a cruel joke, but let us not forget this is a human being's life we're talking about.

  I'd rather you be disappointed that someone over-reacted than be heartbroken at the loss of a loved one and the fact that no one cared enough to try to do something about it.

  Do you not agree?


  -----> Greg



   
  On 8/23/06, nico <nico@viberation.com> wrote: 
    If you've known Karina Powers for any length of time, you know she's the last person who would ever commit suicide.  Think about all the uphill battles she's fought and hasn't once stopped taking huge strides up the mountain. 

    I'm disappointed in all of you.

    love always

    n i c o






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Subject: Re: [sfraves] You're all drama queens WAS: Karina

I'm certainly not trying to start a flame war.  Far from it.

But I can already imagine Karina's reaction to her getting a call from one 
of us saying "hey, are you alive?"


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>I think the point of Greg's posting was that someone might be able to 
>contact her or check to see if she was OK, not a silly attempt to create 
>drama.  Lord knows we all have enough drama these days.
>
> I shouldn't speak for Greg, but if she posted the note on MySpace, and at 
> this point there's no reason to assume otherwise, then she might be 
> thinking about doing something dumb and there might be a chance to 
> intervene and help her.
>
> If she's fine, then no harm no foul.  None of us that "don't even know 
> her" will think anything less of her.  I'm not clear why you think we 
> would.
>
> Apollo stated that she was being forced out of her home.  That's a very 
> unpleasant piece of business and could lead the strongest of us to 
> despair.
>
> Lets just confirm that she's OK and not start a flame war over this 
> please.
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: nico <nico@viberation.com>
> To: Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com>
> Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 3:36:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] You're all drama queens WAS: Karina
>
> It was pretty irresponsible of you to start the thread.  Now you're making 
> people worry and painting her in a light as someone that would commit 
> suicide.  She's not.
>
> And for someone that would wager 90% odds that this was a hack or a cruel 
> joke, you seem 100% willing to throw this out there to people who don't 
> even know her.
>
> Next time, send direct e-mails.
>
> "I'd rather you be disappointed that someone over-reacted than be 
> heartbroken at the loss of a loved one and the fact that no one cared 
> enough to try to do something about it."
>
> So many things wrong with this.  First, if she's really gone, the 
> heartbreak will be there.  Secondly, isn't it better to wait for truth 
> rather than speculation?  All you're doing is feeding a fear.  Third, if 
> she's gone already, there isn't anything you can do about it.  She already 
> wrote the "suicide note".  Yeah, I disagree with you vehemently.
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Greg Bird
>  To: nico
>  Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>  Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 3:20 PM
>  Subject: Re: [sfraves] You're all drama queens WAS: Karina
>
>
>  Hey man, I'm the one that started this thread, and I will admit that I 
> don't know Karina well at all.
>
>  All I know is that I saw what looked to possibly be a suicide note and 
> thought it better to be safe than sorry.
>
>  From what I do know of Karina, I agree she doesn't at all seem the type 
> to just give up.  But that's exactly what I thought of my highschool 
> Humanities teacher too.  Depression and circumstance have ways of clouding 
> otherwise healthy minds.
>
>  I'm willing to wager 90% odds that this was just a hack or a cruel joke, 
> but let us not forget this is a human being's life we're talking about.
>
>  I'd rather you be disappointed that someone over-reacted than be 
> heartbroken at the loss of a loved one and the fact that no one cared 
> enough to try to do something about it.
>
>  Do you not agree?
>
>
>  -----> Greg
>
>
>
>
>  On 8/23/06, nico <nico@viberation.com> wrote:
>    If you've known Karina Powers for any length of time, you know she's 
> the last person who would ever commit suicide.  Think about all the uphill 
> battles she's fought and hasn't once stopped taking huge strides up the 
> mountain.
>
>    I'm disappointed in all of you.
>
>    love always
>
>    n i c o
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] You're all drama queens WAS: Karina

My responses are below...

On 8/23/06, nico <nico@viberation.com> wrote:
> It was pretty irresponsible of you to start the thread.  Now you're making people worry and painting her in a light as someone that would commit suicide.  She's not.
>

Hey, least he cared enough to say something. That's called
kindhearted, not irresponsible. You're just being mean.

> And for someone that would wager 90% odds that this was a hack or a cruel joke, you seem 100% willing to throw this out there to people who don't even know her.
>

Cool, Call her and find out so that the entire SFR community knows for
sure. I know I'd personally appreciate that.

> Next time, send direct e-mails.
>

Well, being as she's a moderator and maintainer on here, I think it's
a perfect forum to find out. He sent an email directly to the list
that he knew she'd most likely respond on. if she had responded with
an expanation, it wouldn't have been this big a deal. Don't be like
that.

> "I'd rather you be disappointed that someone over-reacted than be heartbroken at the loss of a loved one and the fact that no one cared enough to try to do something about it."
>
> So many things wrong with this.  First, if she's really gone, the heartbreak will be there.  > Secondly, isn't it better to wait for truth rather than speculation?  All you're doing is
> feeding a fear.  Third, if she's gone already, there isn't anything you can do about it.
> She already wrote the "suicide note".  Yeah, I disagree with you vehemently.

Good for you. If you ever put up a note or say something that could
potentially sound like suicide, depression, unhappiness, I'll make a
mental note to not go out of my way to find out what's wrong with you,
or even acknowledging the situation.

>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Greg Bird
>   To: nico
>   Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>   Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 3:20 PM
>   Subject: Re: [sfraves] You're all drama queens WAS: Karina
>
>
>   Hey man, I'm the one that started this thread, and I will admit that I don't know Karina well at all.
>
>   All I know is that I saw what looked to possibly be a suicide note and thought it better to be safe than sorry.
>
>   From what I do know of Karina, I agree she doesn't at all seem the type to just give up.  But that's exactly what I thought of my highschool Humanities teacher too.  Depression and circumstance have ways of clouding otherwise healthy minds.
>
>   I'm willing to wager 90% odds that this was just a hack or a cruel joke, but let us not forget this is a human being's life we're talking about.
>
>   I'd rather you be disappointed that someone over-reacted than be heartbroken at the loss of a loved one and the fact that no one cared enough to try to do something about it.
>
>   Do you not agree?
>
>
>   -----> Greg
>
>
>
>
>   On 8/23/06, nico <nico@viberation.com> wrote:
>     If you've known Karina Powers for any length of time, you know she's the last person who would ever commit suicide.  Think about all the uphill battles she's fought and hasn't once stopped taking huge strides up the mountain.
>
>     I'm disappointed in all of you.
>
>     love always
>
>     n i c o
>
>
>
>


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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina


I got this from her in a bulk a few weeks ago:

z0phreak0z:  I hope all is well with you and I  give you much wishes for 
happiness and peace. I'm moving on the 31st and may be without internet 
access for a bit. My exact destination is not determined at the moment 
though I will hopefully will be settled over the next month or so.  I can 
be reached at karina@area.com and 650.716.7169 - keep in mind there may be 
some delay in my responses but I'll do my best to get back to you. Have a 
wonderful weekend and thanks for your friendship. I send you much love 
always in all ways and Namaste!!!!

On the 15th I got a Happy B-Day message (my internet B-Day)

I think the Irony is that when she tries to do something nice for people, 
she get's berrated, shot down, belittled, and made to feel like the lowest 
form of life on the planet.

Yet, if people think she might kill herself (why on earth would she 
POSSIBLY want to do that) then suddenly everyone cares and shows 
concern.  Did anyone care 6 months ago when she lost her job?  Did anyone 
care when her health wa sin shambles?  Anyone bother to call when she had a 
working phone?


At 01:49 PM 8/23/2006, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
>Anyone know her home address?  Someone should go check on her or notify 
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina

You hit the nail right on the head.
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>
> I got this from her in a bulk a few weeks ago:
>
> z0phreak0z:  I hope all is well with you and I  give you much wishes for 
> happiness and peace. I'm moving on the 31st and may be without internet 
> access for a bit. My exact destination is not determined at the moment 
> though I will hopefully will be settled over the next month or so.  I can 
> be reached at karina@area.com and 650.716.7169 - keep in mind there may be 
> some delay in my responses but I'll do my best to get back to you. Have a 
> wonderful weekend and thanks for your friendship. I send you much love 
> always in all ways and Namaste!!!!
>
> On the 15th I got a Happy B-Day message (my internet B-Day)
>
> I think the Irony is that when she tries to do something nice for people, 
> she get's berrated, shot down, belittled, and made to feel like the lowest 
> form of life on the planet.
>
> Yet, if people think she might kill herself (why on earth would she 
> POSSIBLY want to do that) then suddenly everyone cares and shows concern. 
> Did anyone care 6 months ago when she lost her job?  Did anyone care when 
> her health wa sin shambles?  Anyone bother to call when she had a working 
> phone?
>
>
> At 01:49 PM 8/23/2006, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
>>Anyone know her home address?  Someone should go check on her or notify 
>>the police if you think she's serious.
>
>
> Shatter
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At 04:22 PM 8/23/2006, nico wrote:
>But I can already imagine Karina's reaction to her getting a call from one 
>of us saying "hey, are you alive?"

..... 3 hours later....

"ok well, glad you're fine."

(mind you, I love and adore Karina!)



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You havn't moved recently have you?

Moving is enough to make anyone want to kill themself.


At 02:03 PM 8/23/2006, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
>Seems like one doesn't go through the trouble of moving right before doing 
>away with themselves, but what do I know.


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I usually do, even when it bites me on the ass.  ;)


At 04:30 PM 8/23/2006, you wrote:
>You hit the nail right on the head.


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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina

Well, as I said I don't know Karina and I've in fact only met her once.  If you are refering to the "SFraves benefit" I don't agree with everything you did regarding that  or how that was approached.   But that doesn't mean I wished her illwill or that I  didn't try to help her.  As it so happens I did pass her resume on to the hiring manager for a QA position at my company.  They hired someone else recently and weren't looking to hire anyone at this time.  But I passed it on anyway.  FWIW my current job doesn't involve hiring or managing people so I couldn't help directly.  

I've repeatedly tried to help people on this list when they were unemployed or looking for better gigs.  The people I've offered help to know this is true.  I've been there myself not long ago and I resolved to try and help others because no one tried to help me.

My employer is not currently hiring since the company actually will run out of funding at the end of November,  but if anyone sees any jobs they are interested in at Stanford University, especially the Stanford Graduate School of Business, please let me know.  My wife works there and we'll try to help.  Naturally I can't promise anything and you'll still ahve to go through the interview process etc.

I've previously posted this offer to the list at least twice.  

Regards,

Peter

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I got this from her in a bulk a few weeks ago:

z0phreak0z:  I hope all is well with you and I  give you much wishes for 
happiness and peace. I'm moving on the 31st and may be without internet 
access for a bit. My exact destination is not determined at the moment 
though I will hopefully will be settled over the next month or so.  I can 
be reached at karina@area.com and 650.716.7169 - keep in mind there may be 
some delay in my responses but I'll do my best to get back to you. Have a 
wonderful weekend and thanks for your friendship. I send you much love 
always in all ways and Namaste!!!!

On the 15th I got a Happy B-Day message (my internet B-Day)

I think the Irony is that when she tries to do something nice for people, 
she get's berrated, shot down, belittled, and made to feel like the lowest 
form of life on the planet.

Yet, if people think she might kill herself (why on earth would she 
POSSIBLY want to do that) then suddenly everyone cares and shows 
concern.  Did anyone care 6 months ago when she lost her job?  Did anyone 
care when her health wa sin shambles?  Anyone bother to call when she had a 
working phone?


At 01:49 PM 8/23/2006, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
>Anyone know her home address?  Someone should go check on her or notify 
>the police if you think she's serious.


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At 04:26 PM 8/23/2006, Shatter wrote:

>I think the Irony is that when she tries to do something nice for people, she get's berrated, shot down, belittled, and made to feel like the lowest form of life on the planet.
>
>Yet, if people think she might kill herself (why on earth would she POSSIBLY want to do that) then suddenly everyone cares and shows concern.  Did anyone care 6 months ago when she lost her job?  Did anyone care when her health wa sin shambles?  Anyone bother to call when she had a working phone?

Many of us here DO care about Karina.  I've known her for years, in sickness and in health.  Personally I think the guilt trips being thrown about on this list are shoddy indeed.  I've sent Karina a message and contacted one of her last relationships to see if he could get hold of her.



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At 04:04 PM 8/23/2006, Steve Osteen wrote:


>Prozac sucks ass, I never knew how crappy the withdrawal would be. The 5-HTP
>doesn't seem to help, if anything just amplify my emotions. I am five blocks
>away from returning to dxm after being sober for the last year and a half
>sitting here with pinkeye in both eyes, a fever, soar throat, and lack of
>will to live. Being dissociated would be a lovely way to die,
>
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>
>but not today.
>

Many of us are having very, very bad experiences these days.  Steve could use some care and love I see from the above.  He is in my thoughts lately.....


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I see the list has changed little, actually, gotten a lot worse. More drama 
than I care to have in my life, and judgemental as hell!!! (speaking to the 
people making blanket judgements of "hipsters") Don't they have a list for 
adults? 

M2

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina

Word up - Peter tried to help me when I was job searching, I can vouch for 
that.

I'm not a super-techy, so my "help" wouldn't have actually been much help.

As far as the whole SFR Benefit...Karina and I talked, there was no 
animosity over the situation.

I spoke with her a few times when her phone was working, but I must admit it 
wasn't a constant communication.

Just because people did (or didn't) do all the things you mentioned, doesn't 
make anyone's concern less valid. Now let's stop all the bickering and get 
back to the issue at hand, which is trying to make sure a fellow SFRaver 
isn't in trouble...




>From: <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>To: Shatter <shatter@sonic.net>, "Tala ..." <technotala@gmail.com>,  
>adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com>
>CC: Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com>,  * SFRAVES email list 
><sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina
>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 17:24:02 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Well, as I said I don't know Karina and I've in fact only met her once.  If 
>you are refering to the "SFraves benefit" I don't agree with everything you 
>did regarding that  or how that was approached.   But that doesn't mean I 
>wished her illwill or that I  didn't try to help her.  As it so happens I 
>did pass her resume on to the hiring manager for a QA position at my 
>company.  They hired someone else recently and weren't looking to hire 
>anyone at this time.  But I passed it on anyway.  FWIW my current job 
>doesn't involve hiring or managing people so I couldn't help directly.
>
>I've repeatedly tried to help people on this list when they were unemployed 
>or looking for better gigs.  The people I've offered help to know this is 
>true.  I've been there myself not long ago and I resolved to try and help 
>others because no one tried to help me.
>
>My employer is not currently hiring since the company actually will run out 
>of funding at the end of November,  but if anyone sees any jobs they are 
>interested in at Stanford University, especially the Stanford Graduate 
>School of Business, please let me know.  My wife works there and we'll try 
>to help.  Naturally I can't promise anything and you'll still ahve to go 
>through the interview process etc.
>
>I've previously posted this offer to the list at least twice.
>
>Regards,
>
>Peter
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Shatter <shatter@sonic.net>
>To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; Tala ... <technotala@gmail.com>; adriana 
><eesiad1@yahoo.com>
>Cc: Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com>; * SFRAVES email list 
><sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 4:26:04 PM
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina
>
>
>I got this from her in a bulk a few weeks ago:
>
>z0phreak0z:  I hope all is well with you and I  give you much wishes for
>happiness and peace. I'm moving on the 31st and may be without internet
>access for a bit. My exact destination is not determined at the moment
>though I will hopefully will be settled over the next month or so.  I can
>be reached at karina@area.com and 650.716.7169 - keep in mind there may be
>some delay in my responses but I'll do my best to get back to you. Have a
>wonderful weekend and thanks for your friendship. I send you much love
>always in all ways and Namaste!!!!
>
>On the 15th I got a Happy B-Day message (my internet B-Day)
>
>I think the Irony is that when she tries to do something nice for people,
>she get's berrated, shot down, belittled, and made to feel like the lowest
>form of life on the planet.
>
>Yet, if people think she might kill herself (why on earth would she
>POSSIBLY want to do that) then suddenly everyone cares and shows
>concern.  Did anyone care 6 months ago when she lost her job?  Did anyone
>care when her health wa sin shambles?  Anyone bother to call when she had a
>working phone?
>
>
>At 01:49 PM 8/23/2006, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
> >Anyone know her home address?  Someone should go check on her or notify
> >the police if you think she's serious.
>
>
>Shatter
>
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Word.

I don't wish death on anyone.  except the stupid.  which Karina is 
not among - even if we see some things differently.


sarilion

At 05:31 PM 8/23/2006, Apollo wrote:
>At 04:26 PM 8/23/2006, Shatter wrote:
>
> >I think the Irony is that when she tries to do something nice for 
> people, she get's berrated, shot down, belittled, and made to feel 
> like the lowest form of life on the planet.
> >
> >Yet, if people think she might kill herself (why on earth would 
> she POSSIBLY want to do that) then suddenly everyone cares and 
> shows concern.  Did anyone care 6 months ago when she lost her 
> job?  Did anyone care when her health wa sin shambles?  Anyone 
> bother to call when she had a working phone?
>
>Many of us here DO care about Karina.  I've known her for years, in 
>sickness and in health.  Personally I think the guilt trips being 
>thrown about on this list are shoddy indeed.  I've sent Karina a 
>message and contacted one of her last relationships to see if he 
>could get hold of her.
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina

   i mentioned to a friend that this was going on,
he's sent word to her brother that there are people
concerned about her. hopefully i'll hear back or
she'll pop on here and we'll know everything is ok.

--- Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Word up - Peter tried to help me when I was job
> searching, I can vouch for 
> that.
> 
> I'm not a super-techy, so my "help" wouldn't have
> actually been much help.
> 
> As far as the whole SFR Benefit...Karina and I
> talked, there was no 
> animosity over the situation.
> 
> I spoke with her a few times when her phone was
> working, but I must admit it 
> wasn't a constant communication.
> 
> Just because people did (or didn't) do all the
> things you mentioned, doesn't 
> make anyone's concern less valid. Now let's stop all
> the bickering and get 
> back to the issue at hand, which is trying to make
> sure a fellow SFRaver 
> isn't in trouble...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> >To: Shatter <shatter@sonic.net>, "Tala ..."
> <technotala@gmail.com>,  
> >adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com>
> >CC: Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com>,  * SFRAVES email
> list 
> ><sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina
> >Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 17:24:02 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Well, as I said I don't know Karina and I've in
> fact only met her once.  If 
> >you are refering to the "SFraves benefit" I don't
> agree with everything you 
> >did regarding that  or how that was approached.  
> But that doesn't mean I 
> >wished her illwill or that I  didn't try to help
> her.  As it so happens I 
> >did pass her resume on to the hiring manager for a
> QA position at my 
> >company.  They hired someone else recently and
> weren't looking to hire 
> >anyone at this time.  But I passed it on anyway. 
> FWIW my current job 
> >doesn't involve hiring or managing people so I
> couldn't help directly.
> >
> >I've repeatedly tried to help people on this list
> when they were unemployed 
> >or looking for better gigs.  The people I've
> offered help to know this is 
> >true.  I've been there myself not long ago and I
> resolved to try and help 
> >others because no one tried to help me.
> >
> >My employer is not currently hiring since the
> company actually will run out 
> >of funding at the end of November,  but if anyone
> sees any jobs they are 
> >interested in at Stanford University, especially
> the Stanford Graduate 
> >School of Business, please let me know.  My wife
> works there and we'll try 
> >to help.  Naturally I can't promise anything and
> you'll still ahve to go 
> >through the interview process etc.
> >
> >I've previously posted this offer to the list at
> least twice.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Peter
> >
> >----- Original Message ----
> >From: Shatter <shatter@sonic.net>
> >To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; Tala ...
> <technotala@gmail.com>; adriana 
> ><eesiad1@yahoo.com>
> >Cc: Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com>; * SFRAVES email
> list 
> ><sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 4:26:04 PM
> >Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina
> >
> >
> >I got this from her in a bulk a few weeks ago:
> >
> >z0phreak0z:  I hope all is well with you and I 
> give you much wishes for
> >happiness and peace. I'm moving on the 31st and may
> be without internet
> >access for a bit. My exact destination is not
> determined at the moment
> >though I will hopefully will be settled over the
> next month or so.  I can
> >be reached at karina@area.com and 650.716.7169 -
> keep in mind there may be
> >some delay in my responses but I'll do my best to
> get back to you. Have a
> >wonderful weekend and thanks for your friendship. I
> send you much love
> >always in all ways and Namaste!!!!
> >
> >On the 15th I got a Happy B-Day message (my
> internet B-Day)
> >
> >I think the Irony is that when she tries to do
> something nice for people,
> >she get's berrated, shot down, belittled, and made
> to feel like the lowest
> >form of life on the planet.
> >
> >Yet, if people think she might kill herself (why on
> earth would she
> >POSSIBLY want to do that) then suddenly everyone
> cares and shows
> >concern.  Did anyone care 6 months ago when she
> lost her job?  Did anyone
> >care when her health wa sin shambles?  Anyone
> bother to call when she had a
> >working phone?
> >
> >
> >At 01:49 PM 8/23/2006, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >Anyone know her home address?  Someone should go
> check on her or notify
> > >the police if you think she's serious.
> >
> >
> >Shatter
> >
> >shatter@sonic.net
> >http://www.sonic.net/~shatter
> >Y!: Shatter707  ICQ: 8953718  MSN & AIM: 
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her myspace account is logged on...


Layla Lewis <layla6942@yahoo.com> wrote:    i mentioned to a friend that this was going on,
he's sent word to her brother that there are people
concerned about her. hopefully i'll hear back or
she'll pop on here and we'll know everything is ok.

--- Van Mundegaarde 
wrote:

> Word up - Peter tried to help me when I was job
> searching, I can vouch for 
> that.
> 
> I'm not a super-techy, so my "help" wouldn't have
> actually been much help.
> 
> As far as the whole SFR Benefit...Karina and I
> talked, there was no 
> animosity over the situation.
> 
> I spoke with her a few times when her phone was
> working, but I must admit it 
> wasn't a constant communication.
> 
> Just because people did (or didn't) do all the
> things you mentioned, doesn't 
> make anyone's concern less valid. Now let's stop all
> the bickering and get 
> back to the issue at hand, which is trying to make
> sure a fellow SFRaver 
> isn't in trouble...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: 
> >Reply-To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> >To: Shatter , "Tala ..."
> ,  
> >adriana 
> >CC: Greg Bird ,  * SFRAVES email
> list 
> >
> >Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina
> >Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 17:24:02 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Well, as I said I don't know Karina and I've in
> fact only met her once.  If 
> >you are refering to the "SFraves benefit" I don't
> agree with everything you 
> >did regarding that  or how that was approached.  
> But that doesn't mean I 
> >wished her illwill or that I  didn't try to help
> her.  As it so happens I 
> >did pass her resume on to the hiring manager for a
> QA position at my 
> >company.  They hired someone else recently and
> weren't looking to hire 
> >anyone at this time.  But I passed it on anyway. 
> FWIW my current job 
> >doesn't involve hiring or managing people so I
> couldn't help directly.
> >
> >I've repeatedly tried to help people on this list
> when they were unemployed 
> >or looking for better gigs.  The people I've
> offered help to know this is 
> >true.  I've been there myself not long ago and I
> resolved to try and help 
> >others because no one tried to help me.
> >
> >My employer is not currently hiring since the
> company actually will run out 
> >of funding at the end of November,  but if anyone
> sees any jobs they are 
> >interested in at Stanford University, especially
> the Stanford Graduate 
> >School of Business, please let me know.  My wife
> works there and we'll try 
> >to help.  Naturally I can't promise anything and
> you'll still ahve to go 
> >through the interview process etc.
> >
> >I've previously posted this offer to the list at
> least twice.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Peter
> >
> >----- Original Message ----
> >From: Shatter 
> >To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; Tala ...
> ; adriana 
> >
> >Cc: Greg Bird ; * SFRAVES email
> list 
> >
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 4:26:04 PM
> >Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina
> >
> >
> >I got this from her in a bulk a few weeks ago:
> >
> >z0phreak0z:  I hope all is well with you and I 
> give you much wishes for
> >happiness and peace. I'm moving on the 31st and may
> be without internet
> >access for a bit. My exact destination is not
> determined at the moment
> >though I will hopefully will be settled over the
> next month or so.  I can
> >be reached at karina@area.com and 650.716.7169 -
> keep in mind there may be
> >some delay in my responses but I'll do my best to
> get back to you. Have a
> >wonderful weekend and thanks for your friendship. I
> send you much love
> >always in all ways and Namaste!!!!
> >
> >On the 15th I got a Happy B-Day message (my
> internet B-Day)
> >
> >I think the Irony is that when she tries to do
> something nice for people,
> >she get's berrated, shot down, belittled, and made
> to feel like the lowest
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yes! you have and we thank you peter :)

xoxo
adriana


dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: Well, as I said I don't know Karina and I've in fact only met her once.  If you are refering to the "SFraves benefit" I don't agree with everything you did regarding that  or how that was approached.   But that doesn't mean I wished her illwill or that I  didn't try to help her.  As it so happens I did pass her resume on to the hiring manager for a QA position at my company.  They hired someone else recently and weren't looking to hire anyone at this time.  But I passed it on anyway.  FWIW my current job doesn't involve hiring or managing people so I couldn't help directly.  

I've repeatedly tried to help people on this list when they were unemployed or looking for better gigs.  The people I've offered help to know this is true.  I've been there myself not long ago and I resolved to try and help others because no one tried to help me.

My employer is not currently hiring since the company actually will run out of funding at the end of November,  but if anyone sees any jobs they are interested in at Stanford University, especially the Stanford Graduate School of Business, please let me know.  My wife works there and we'll try to help.  Naturally I can't promise anything and you'll still ahve to go through the interview process etc.

I've previously posted this offer to the list at least twice.  

Regards,

Peter

----- Original Message ----
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina


I got this from her in a bulk a few weeks ago:

z0phreak0z:  I hope all is well with you and I  give you much wishes for 
happiness and peace. I'm moving on the 31st and may be without internet 
access for a bit. My exact destination is not determined at the moment 
though I will hopefully will be settled over the next month or so.  I can 
be reached at karina@area.com and 650.716.7169 - keep in mind there may be 
some delay in my responses but I'll do my best to get back to you. Have a 
wonderful weekend and thanks for your friendship. I send you much love 
always in all ways and Namaste!!!!

On the 15th I got a Happy B-Day message (my internet B-Day)

I think the Irony is that when she tries to do something nice for people, 
she get's berrated, shot down, belittled, and made to feel like the lowest 
form of life on the planet.

Yet, if people think she might kill herself (why on earth would she 
POSSIBLY want to do that) then suddenly everyone cares and shows 
concern.  Did anyone care 6 months ago when she lost her job?  Did anyone 
care when her health wa sin shambles?  Anyone bother to call when she had a 
working phone?


At 01:49 PM 8/23/2006, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
>Anyone know her home address?  Someone should go check on her or notify 
>the police if you think she's serious.


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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina

there's a graver list - not for necrophiliacs, but for granny 
ravers.  I don't think there's as much traffic.


sarilion

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>than I care to have in my life, and judgemental as hell!!! (speaking to the
>people making blanket judgements of "hipsters") Don't they have a list for
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There's plenty o' drama in the geriatric raver world.  Trust me.  The little bit of it I hear about accidentally is more than enough for me.

Hey and lets not be judgemental about those necrophiliacs now!

Regards,

(The Other) Peter

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there's a graver list - not for necrophiliacs, but for granny 
ravers.  I don't think there's as much traffic.


sarilion

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>people making blanket judgements of "hipsters") Don't they have a list for
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>
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Short version:

No, I'm not refering to a specific time, more a total of times, over the 
course of time.

It's typical with most humans and I'm not singleing you out, or being 
specific to you or anyone else.  The only time humans become concerned or 
compassionate is if they think somebody died, or somebody did die.  The 
rest of the time we all shit on each other.

--S

At 05:24 PM 8/23/2006, you wrote:
>Well, as I said I don't know Karina and I've in fact only met her 
>once.  If you are refering to the "SFraves benefit" I don't agree with 
>everything you did regarding that  or how that was approached.   But that 
>doesn't mean I wished her illwill or that I  didn't try to help her.  As 
>it so happens I did pass her resume on to the hiring manager for a QA 
>position at my company.  They hired someone else recently and weren't 
>looking to hire anyone at this time.  But I passed it on anyway.  FWIW my 
>current job doesn't involve hiring or managing people so I couldn't help 
>directly.
>
>I've repeatedly tried to help people on this list when they were 
>unemployed or looking for better gigs.  The people I've offered help to 
>know this is true.  I've been there myself not long ago and I resolved to 
>try and help others because no one tried to help me.
>
>My employer is not currently hiring since the company actually will run 
>out of funding at the end of November,  but if anyone sees any jobs they 
>are interested in at Stanford University, especially the Stanford Graduate 
>School of Business, please let me know.  My wife works there and we'll try 
>to help.  Naturally I can't promise anything and you'll still ahve to go 
>through the interview process etc.
>
>I've previously posted this offer to the list at least twice.


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All,

I just received a reply from my original MySpace response to her.

I won't go into details, as this is her personal life, but let's just leave
it at that she's going through a very rough time right now and i'm sure she
could use all the love and support she can get.

She left me her number, but i tried calling and her voicemail was full.

I just responded to her last message, but havent heard back.

for now, just know (thank god) that she's ok.

---->greg

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina

I tried Aiming her phone, but no answer.  I'm sure everything is fine, but 
its also good to check these things out.

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----- Original Message ----- 
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>
> Short version:
>
> No, I'm not refering to a specific time, more a total of times, over the 
> course of time.
>
> It's typical with most humans and I'm not singleing you out, or being 
> specific to you or anyone else.  The only time humans become concerned or 
> compassionate is if they think somebody died, or somebody did die.  The 
> rest of the time we all shit on each other.
>
> --S
>
> At 05:24 PM 8/23/2006, you wrote:
>>Well, as I said I don't know Karina and I've in fact only met her once. 
>>If you are refering to the "SFraves benefit" I don't agree with everything 
>>you did regarding that  or how that was approached.   But that doesn't 
>>mean I wished her illwill or that I  didn't try to help her.  As it so 
>>happens I did pass her resume on to the hiring manager for a QA position 
>>at my company.  They hired someone else recently and weren't looking to 
>>hire anyone at this time.  But I passed it on anyway.  FWIW my current job 
>>doesn't involve hiring or managing people so I couldn't help directly.
>>
>>I've repeatedly tried to help people on this list when they were 
>>unemployed or looking for better gigs.  The people I've offered help to 
>>know this is true.  I've been there myself not long ago and I resolved to 
>>try and help others because no one tried to help me.
>>
>>My employer is not currently hiring since the company actually will run 
>>out of funding at the end of November,  but if anyone sees any jobs they 
>>are interested in at Stanford University, especially the Stanford Graduate 
>>School of Business, please let me know.  My wife works there and we'll try 
>>to help.  Naturally I can't promise anything and you'll still ahve to go 
>>through the interview process etc.
>>
>>I've previously posted this offer to the list at least twice.
>
>
> Shatter
>
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<DIV>Might you mean raverg? We have quite a bit of traffic and drama of o=
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Stop trying to act like you have more drama.  You don't, alright? =20

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        there's a graver list - not for necrophiliacs, but for granny
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina

life is more precious than drama.


sarilion

At 06:52 PM 8/23/2006, Shatter wrote:

>Short version:
>
>No, I'm not refering to a specific time, more a total of times, over 
>the course of time.
>
>It's typical with most humans and I'm not singleing you out, or 
>being specific to you or anyone else.  The only time humans become 
>concerned or compassionate is if they think somebody died, or 
>somebody did die.  The rest of the time we all shit on each other.
>
>--S
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>At 05:24 PM 8/23/2006, you wrote:
>>Well, as I said I don't know Karina and I've in fact only met her 
>>once.  If you are refering to the "SFraves benefit" I don't agree 
>>with everything you did regarding that  or how that was 
>>approached.   But that doesn't mean I wished her illwill or that 
>>I  didn't try to help her.  As it so happens I did pass her resume 
>>on to the hiring manager for a QA position at my company.  They 
>>hired someone else recently and weren't looking to hire anyone at 
>>this time.  But I passed it on anyway.  FWIW my current job doesn't 
>>involve hiring or managing people so I couldn't help directly.
>>
>>I've repeatedly tried to help people on this list when they were 
>>unemployed or looking for better gigs.  The people I've offered 
>>help to know this is true.  I've been there myself not long ago and 
>>I resolved to try and help others because no one tried to help me.
>>
>>My employer is not currently hiring since the company actually will 
>>run out of funding at the end of November,  but if anyone sees any 
>>jobs they are interested in at Stanford University, especially the 
>>Stanford Graduate School of Business, please let me know.  My wife 
>>works there and we'll try to help.  Naturally I can't promise 
>>anything and you'll still ahve to go through the interview process etc.
>>
>>I've previously posted this offer to the list at least twice.
>
>
>Shatter
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that's what I was referring to.  Is there as much, less, or more 
traffic on raverg than sfr?


sarilion

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>Might you mean raverg? We have quite a bit of traffic and drama of our own.
>
>Jennifer
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>Date: 08/23/06 18:47:20
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>there's a graver list - not for necrophiliacs, but for granny
>ravers.  I don't think there's as much traffic.
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If you were a real 'raver' you'd give a rats ass who was there or why they 
were there. You'd be there for what ever reasons you were there. Period. Don't 
judge and don't be judged. My personal perspective is its all about the music. 
You don't know them and they don't know you. How do you know they are there or 
are into the scene to "see and be seen"? When I was on the list way back in 
the day, everyone I met in person from the list use to think the same damn 
thing about me. Until they got to know me. Everyone thought I was a pretty boy. I 
am, but that doesn't define who I am. Good people and bad people run in all 
circles, including ravers, house heads, trance babies, etc...

Point is, make a conscious decision to be different. Don't be like that. Its 
just a pet peeve of mine and a big turn off. There have been so many people 
who have come in and out of my life that if I had stopped to judge I would have 
never been blessed with what they had to contribute to me. You might find a 
diamond in the rough also. 




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> You mean "the person" who made a "blanket judgement" of hipsters...and that
> would be me. Yea, I have a problem with people who are only into a scene to
> "see and be seen". It's lame, and not at all in the spirit of what RAVE is
> all about. Seeing as how this is a RAVE mailing list, I think my point is
> pretty damn valid.
> 
> I believe the "adult" list you want is SF-Oasis - they're all "mature"
> SFRaves deserters. But I warn you now - it typically smacks of even LESS
> tolerant people and fairly snotty attitudes...when there's any actual posts
> that is.
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Read my last reply to the list. I'm not on the geratric list. I'm on this=20
one. I don't need to trust you. You're missing the point.  =20


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> There's plenty o' drama in the geriatric raver world.=A0 Trust me.=A0 The=20
> little bit of it I hear about accidentally is more than enough for me.
>=20
> Hey and lets not be judgemental about those necrophiliacs now!
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> Regards,
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At 08:04 PM 8/23/2006, Sarilion wrote:
>that's what I was referring to.  Is there as much, less, or more traffic on raverg than sfr?
>
>
>sarilion


there is generally much more traffic these days on the RG list.

apollo


>At 07:32 PM 8/23/2006, Whiterabbit wrote:
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>>
>>Jennifer
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>>Date: 08/23/06 18:47:20
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>>
>>there's a graver list - not for necrophiliacs, but for granny
>>ravers.  I don't think there's as much traffic.
>>
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>>sarilion
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>>>people making blanket judgements of "hipsters") Don't they have a list for
>>>adults?
>>>
>>>M2
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At 07:07 PM 8/23/2006, Greg Bird wrote:
>All,
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>I just received a reply from my original MySpace response to her.
>
>I won't go into details, as this is her personal life, but let's just leave
>it at that she's going through a very rough time right now and i'm sure she
>could use all the love and support she can get.
>
>She left me her number, but i tried calling and her voicemail was full.
>
>I just responded to her last message, but havent heard back.
>
>for now, just know (thank god) that she's ok.
>
>---->greg

Yes...I also received a response from Karina Greg.  Her life, as you say, is very difficult right now.  One can hope and pray that all will be well with her soon.

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Your point about not judging people?  I got the point.  

I know Marco so I know that's not how he his or what he was saying.  Maybe you are being judgemental yourself?

Haven't you ever encountered people that thought they were too cool, too hip, just too damn good looking, to even appear slightly to be having a good time at a club or party?  Maybe they really are having a party in their pants, but the rest of us will never know.  I find it to be somewhat of a downer personally to be around a bunch of people with dour faces at a party.

If I notice this situation, and don't find it enjoyable, does that automatically make me judgemental?  Hmm.

In another online community I belong to there is a saying "Assume goodwill."  The idea is that in the absence of strong proof to the contrary, one should always assume good will from others in the community.  But the idea of assume goodwill cuts both ways.  Your are right that we should assume goodwill from the utlra cool posers and pseudo-hipsters that wouldn't give many people on this list the time of day.  After all they are probably just lonely and looking for a real human connection, but totally clueless about how to find one and afraid to find out what would happen if they did.  

But by the same argument we should assume goodwill from those that criticize them.  They're just practicing discriminating awareness.  

I've found "assume goodwill" to be a very challenging and insightful little mantra.  Try it yourself and you might find the same.

Peace,

Peter



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Read my last reply to the list. I'm not on the geratric list. I'm on this 
one. I don't need to trust you. You're missing the point.   


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> There's plenty o' drama in the geriatric raver world.  Trust me.  The 
> little bit of it I hear about accidentally is more than enough for me.
> 
> Hey and lets not be judgemental about those necrophiliacs now!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> (The Other) Peter
> 





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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Gravers (was Karina)

How much of it has to do with raves?

I'm seriously interested, this is not intended as some sort of snarky comment.

Peter

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At 08:04 PM 8/23/2006, Sarilion wrote:
>that's what I was referring to.  Is there as much, less, or more traffic on raverg than sfr?
>
>
>sarilion


there is generally much more traffic these days on the RG list.

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>At 07:32 PM 8/23/2006, Whiterabbit wrote:
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>>
>>Jennifer
>>
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>>Date: 08/23/06 18:47:20
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>>
>>there's a graver list - not for necrophiliacs, but for granny
>>ravers.  I don't think there's as much traffic.
>>
>>
>>sarilion
>>
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>>>
>>>M2
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I will respond to your reply in the body.=20

Enjoy,=20

M2=20

In a message dated 8/23/06 9:19:26 PM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com writes:


> Your point about not judging people?=A0 I got the point.=A0
>=20
Excellent!   But that really wasn't my point. My point was more to focus on=20
ones self rather than others.=20

>=20
> I know Marco so I know that's not how he his or what he was saying.=A0 May=
be=20
> you are being judgemental yourself?
>=20
Please explain how I'm being judgemental?
>=20
> Haven't you ever encountered people that thought they were too cool, too=20
> hip, just too damn good looking, to even appear slightly to be having a go=
od=20
> time at a club or party?=A0=20
>=20
No, never. Why? Because I don't care nore do I judge people. I'm to busy=20
dancing my ass off and vibing with my friends... I do find I don't like or c=
are=20
for people once I get to know them, but I never make judgement on them.=20
Especially based on race, gender, clothing style, sexual preference, whether=
 they are=20
reall really good looking, what they drive, how much money they make, etc...=
.=20
That could be construded as jealousy.=20

> Maybe they really are having a party in their pants, but the rest of us=20
> will never know.=A0 I find it to be somewhat of a downer personally to be=20=
around a=20
> bunch of people with dour faces at a party.
>=20
This is all you. No response from me on this....=20
>=20
> If I notice this situation, and don't find it enjoyable, does that=20
> automatically make me judgemental?=A0 Hmm.
>=20
> No, this doesn't make you judgemental. We all have preferences for our lik=
es=20
and dislikes. Its when we judge other people for thiers is when we are=20
judgemental. I don't dig country music. But there are people who vibe off it=
 much the=20
same way I vibe on house. I don't have to like their music preferences, and=20=
I=20
certainly have no right to judge them for theirs.=20

> In another online community I belong to there is a saying "Assume=20
> goodwill."=A0 The idea is that in the absence of strong proof to the contr=
ary, one=20
> should always assume good will from others in the community.=A0=20
>=20
This doesn't mean you have to embrace people just to assume goodwill.   I=20
both club and rave. I dress the part of either. I've been accused of as you=20=
say=20
being an "ultra cool posers and pseudo-hipsters". I'm don't even really know=
=20
what that means. I laugh because its just pure ignorance.=20
=20
> But the idea of assume goodwill cuts both ways.=A0 Your are right that we=20
> should assume goodwill from the utlra cool posers and pseudo-hipsters that=
=20
> wouldn't give many people on this list the time of day.=A0 After all they=20=
are=20
> probably just lonely and looking for a real human connection, but totally=20=
clueless=20
> about how to find one and afraid to find out what would happen if they did=
.=A0
>=20
How do you come to this conclusion another human is lonely or looking for=20
real human connection just from looking at them? Who gives a shit if another=
=20
assumes goodwill on you? I worry about whether or not I'm assuming goodwill=20=
on=20
myself. I find this allows me to direct goodwill onto others without thinkin=
g=20
about it naturally, and its usually waranted and appropriate.=20
>=20
> But by the same argument we should assume goodwill from those that critici=
ze=20
> them.=A0 They're just practicing discriminating awareness.=A0
>=20
Wrong, its just people being ignorant. Its perpectuating discrimanation, not=
=20
praticing discrimanting awareness. In my eyes there is no such they as=20
discriminating awareness. That could be a whole other discussion however.=20
>=20
> I've found "assume goodwill" to be a very challenging and insightful littl=
e=20
> mantra.=A0 Try it yourself and you might find the same.
>=20
I guess the easy response to this would be to say rise above the challenge.=20=
I=20
realize life is not always that simple. But we need to start somewhere. And=20
that somewhere is within ourselves. Not within the judgement of others. Next=
=20
time you find yourself in that situation, smile and remember why you are the=
re=20
at that particular moment, hopefully its the music!
>=20
> Peace,
>=20
> Peter
>=20
A quick little story. I'm sitting in the parking lot a few weeks ago in my=20
car waiting for my son. It was already dark, after 9:00pm. I was listening t=
o=20
some house music with my window down, not loud enough to hear very far from=20
outside the car, if at all, and up walks this guy who asks me what I'm liste=
ning=20
to. I told him and he offs his ear phones and says, here, listen to this. It=
=20
was some crazy ass hip hop. Smoth, funky, and raw. It was this cats music. I=
=20
laughed a little bit and asked, did you really expect me to be into hiphop?=20=
(I'm=20
a middle aged white dude sitting in a family car, glasses on, having my nerd=
=20
look going on). His reply was, most definately, I never judge a book by its=20
cover. I bought his CD from him right then and there. $10. Simply out of res=
pect=20
for not judging me and having the heart to hustle for what he believed in. I=
=20
dig the CD which is an added bonus.=20

When I first signed onto SF Raves back in 96 I remember my first post=20
vividly. (Is Bodhi around still?) Bodhi sent out a thread talking about how=20=
he was=20
scared by some mexican hoodlums as he stated. I ripped into him and started=20=
a=20
huge flame war. Me being new to the list I got shit from every single member=
.=20
That was, until I explained myself, and after me and Bodhi use to correspond=
e=20
frequently as friends.=20

See, I was the only white kid who grew up in East Salinas. 100% of my friend=
s=20
at the time were Mexican. Just because someone is Mexican or dresses a=20
certain way doesn't make them a hoodlum. Even if their dress style is gangst=
er or=20
cholo in someone elses eyes. I know plenty of cholo's who I would have in my=
=20
home and trust with my life. Not because they'd shoot or kill for me, but be=
cause=20
they are good people. I can't even begin to tell you what good food I use to=
=20
eat from my friends moms when in their homes. Home made tortilla's are the=20
shit........ Grow up.

Peace,=20

M2

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HI,
   
  This friday im going to be competing in a dj contest hosted by energy 927, now I understand if you might have reservations about the station, but I promise to deliver some pounding house. If you would like to get in for free I can get you on the guest list, email me at traviscreamer@yahoo.com before midnight thursday so I can submit your name. I'll be spinning first at 9, (god I feel bad for the guys that got to follow me) so come out and support your local bedroom dj.
   
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Well, wow.  I guess we don't see eye to eye.  

I never said I was judging anyone by their clothes or their skin or their gender.  You just sort of made that part up didn't you?  What I'm talking about is people's attitude.

I don't care if you are black, asian, a middle aged white guy (like me) or whatever.  I don't care if you're gay or straight, tall or short.  So long as you are there to have a good time.  I wish there were more wildly mixed parties than there are mostly these days actually.

Part of the reason I go to parties is to meet and dance with other people from all walks of life.  Its not at all about being focused on my self as you put it.  In fact, for me its totally the opposite.

One of the best things I've gotten from dance culture, both at both raves and clubs, is that I've gotten to meet and dance with all different types of people froma ll over the world.  The reason I go out rather than staying home and playing records myself is these other people.

What I'm saying is that if people aren't at a party to have a good time, if they're posing or just there to show off their clothes or get laid or get drunk/wasted, if they're already drunk/wasted and aggresive out of control, or simply tired and depressed for whatever reason, if the flow and set timing of the music are off, if there's just no energy in the room, then its probably not going to be a very fun party.   Still I'll always give it a go.  But personally after a few hours of that I'm going to be further on up the road.  If that makes me jaded, then so be it.

Peace,

Peter

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I will respond to your reply in the body. 
 
 Enjoy, 
 
 M2 
 
 In a message dated 8/23/06 9:19:26 PM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com writes:
 
 
 Your point about not judging people?  I got the point. 
 
 Excellent!   But that really wasn't my point. My point was more to focus on ones self rather than others. 
 
 
 I know Marco so I know that's not how he his or what he was saying.  Maybe you are being judgemental yourself?
 
 Please explain how I'm being judgemental?
 
 Haven't you ever encountered people that thought they were too cool, too hip, just too damn good looking, to even appear slightly to be having a good time at a club or party?  
 
 No, never. Why? Because I don't care nore do I judge people. I'm to busy dancing my ass off and vibing with my friends... I do find I don't like or care for people once I get to know them, but I never make judgement on them. Especially based on race, gender, clothing style, sexual preference, whether they are reall really good looking, what they drive, how much money they make, etc.... That could be construded as jealousy. 
 
 Maybe they really are having a party in their pants, but the rest of us will never know.  I find it to be somewhat of a downer personally to be around a bunch of people with dour faces at a party.
 
 This is all you. No response from me on this.... 
 
 If I notice this situation, and don't find it enjoyable, does that automatically make me judgemental?  Hmm.
 
 No, this doesn't make you judgemental. We all have preferences for our likes and dislikes. Its when we judge other people for thiers is when we are judgemental. I don't dig country music. But there are people who vibe off it much the same way I vibe on house. I don't have to like their music preferences, and I certainly have no right to judge them for theirs. 
 
 In another online community I belong to there is a saying "Assume goodwill."  The idea is that in the absence of strong proof to the contrary, one should always assume good will from others in the community.  
 
 This doesn't mean you have to embrace people just to assume goodwill.   I both club and rave. I dress the part of either. I've been accused of as you say being an "ultra cool posers and pseudo-hipsters". I'm don't even really know what that means. I laugh because its just pure ignorance. 
  
 But the idea of assume goodwill cuts both ways.  Your are right that we should assume goodwill from the utlra cool posers and pseudo-hipsters that wouldn't give many people on this list the time of day.  After all they are probably just lonely and looking for a real human connection, but totally clueless about how to find one and afraid to find out what would happen if they did. 
 
 How do you come to this conclusion another human is lonely or looking for real human connection just from looking at them? Who gives a shit if another assumes goodwill on you? I worry about whether or not I'm assuming goodwill on myself. I find this allows me to direct goodwill onto others without thinking about it naturally, and its usually waranted and appropriate. 
 
 But by the same argument we should assume goodwill from those that criticize them.  They're just practicing discriminating awareness. 
 
 Wrong, its just people being ignorant. Its perpectuating discrimanation, not praticing discrimanting awareness. In my eyes there is no such they as discriminating awareness. That could be a whole other discussion however. 
 
 I've found "assume goodwill" to be a very challenging and insightful little mantra.  Try it yourself and you might find the same.
 
 I guess the easy response to this would be to say rise above the challenge. I realize life is not always that simple. But we need to start somewhere. And that somewhere is within ourselves. Not within the judgement of others. Next time you find yourself in that situation, smile and remember why you are there at that particular moment, hopefully its the music!
 
 Peace,
 
 Peter
 
 A quick little story. I'm sitting in the parking lot a few weeks ago in my car waiting for my son. It was already dark, after 9:00pm. I was listening to some house music with my window down, not loud enough to hear very far from outside the car, if at all, and up walks this guy who asks me what I'm listening to. I told him and he offs his ear phones and says, here, listen to this. It was some crazy ass hip hop. Smoth, funky, and raw. It was this cats music. I laughed a little bit and asked, did you really expect me to be into hiphop? (I'm a middle aged white dude sitting in a family car, glasses on, having my nerd look going on). His reply was, most definately, I never judge a book by its cover. I bought his CD from him right then and there. $10. Simply out of respect for not judging me and having the heart to hustle for what he believed in. I dig the CD which is an added bonus. 
 
 When I first signed onto SF Raves back in 96 I remember my first post vividly. (Is Bodhi around still?) Bodhi sent out a thread talking about how he was scared by some mexican hoodlums as he stated. I ripped into him and started a huge flame war. Me being new to the list I got shit from every single member. That was, until I explained myself, and after me and Bodhi use to corresponde frequently as friends. 
 
 See, I was the only white kid who grew up in East Salinas. 100% of my friends at the time were Mexican. Just because someone is Mexican or dresses a certain way doesn't make them a hoodlum. Even if their dress style is gangster or cholo in someone elses eyes. I know plenty of cholo's who I would have in my home and trust with my life. Not because they'd shoot or kill for me, but because they are good people. I can't even begin to tell you what good food I use to eat from my friends moms when in their homes. Home made tortilla's are the shit........ Grow up.
 
 Peace, 
 
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watched that shit like 2 times today. good fucking movie

 			
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i <3 groove... i think we all need to get together for
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-D.

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove

Such a whore post, but D D told me about this, so:

Play Groove DVD director's commentary 'on' (in Special Features)
Chapter 8

Director gives me & viberation props.

So much more other people & shit, such a blur....the scene deserves the 
props...yeah!

so whore....sorry!

-t

p.s. if you can find Alex Ward(DJ Science *and* Mike Migurski in the 
movie) you're a pimp.

On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Delia wrote:

> i <3 groove... i think we all need to get together for
> a movie night and watch it! haha fuckin plur bitches
>
> -D.
>
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>
>> watched that shit like 2 times today. good fucking
>> movie
>>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Gravers (was Karina)

I would say it's about 75-80% politics and 20-25% music/raves.
But I would also say that there's less traffic there vs. the more 
traffic that apollo thinks.  Looking at my folders of saved messages for 
Aug, they're looking fairly similar, but that's just what I saw as 
worthy of keeping around for at least a little while. :)

On 23 August 2006, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:

> How much of it has to do with raves?
>
> I'm seriously interested, this is not intended as some sort of snarky comment.
>
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Apollo <apollo@speakeasy.org>
> To: Sarilion <sarilion@sarilion.org>; SFRaves@hyperreal.org
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 9:10:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Gravers (was Karina)
>
> At 08:04 PM 8/23/2006, Sarilion wrote:
>> that's what I was referring to.  Is there as much, less, or more traffic on raverg than sfr?
>>
>>
>> sarilion
>
>
> there is generally much more traffic these days on the RG list.
>
> apollo
>
>
>> At 07:32 PM 8/23/2006, Whiterabbit wrote:
>>> Might you mean raverg? We have quite a bit of traffic and drama of our own.
>>>
>>> Jennifer
>>>
>>> -------Original Message-------
>>>
>>> From: <mailto:sarilion@sarilion.org>Sarilion
>>> Date: 08/23/06 18:47:20
>>> To: <mailto:SFRaves@hyperreal.org>SFRaves@hyperreal.org
>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina
>>>
>>> there's a graver list - not for necrophiliacs, but for granny
>>> ravers.  I don't think there's as much traffic.
>>>
>>>
>>> sarilion
>>>
>>> At 05:55 PM 8/23/2006, <mailto:Spinmylifeaway@aol.com>Spinmylifeaway@aol.com wrote:
>>>> I see the list has changed little, actually, gotten a lot worse. More drama
>>>> than I care to have in my life, and judgemental as hell!!! (speaking to the
>>>> people making blanket judgements of "hipsters") Don't they have a list for
>>>> adults?
>>>>
>>>> M2
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If you'll notice in the movie. My original email address from SF Raves 
posting is in the movie. BigM009@aol.com.... :)

M2

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> watched that shit like 2 times today. good fucking movie
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove

Hey want to drive in front of me over the bridge today?

Regards,

Peter

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watched that shit like 2 times today. good fucking movie

             
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove

Heh, I have a Hoberman sphere I can bring ;)

(Don't know what a Hoberman sphere is?  Its that expando toy the guy plays with at the end.  See http://hoberman.com/fold/Sphere/sphere.htm)

Regards,

Peter

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i <3 groove... i think we all need to get together for
a movie night and watch it! haha fuckin plur bitches

-D.

--- D D <technicak47@yahoo.com> wrote:

> watched that shit like 2 times today. good fucking
> movie
> 
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Peter, I can live with this response. Attitude is everything. But I still=20
have a problem with general classifications of people. And thats what I hear=
d. I=20
didn't mean to imply you judged by clothes, skin, or gender, just saying I=20
don't.=20

One of my biggest enjoyments of the dance culture is meeting peole as well,=20
and when there is a drunken idiot around, I avoid them, however, I enjoy bei=
ng=20
a drunken idiot from time to time myself! :) Never out in public though....

I appreciate the dialogue and keeping it civil. Its not often you can have=20
that and have it not get carried away or have people getting all butt hurt.=20=
Its=20
truly a way for me to have personal growth. I thank you for that.=20

If you're a myspace whore like I've become stop by and say hello.=20
www.myspace.com/cuandoque

And not to lose focus on what started this. Karina, glad to hear you're ok i=
f=20
you stomach reading this. Say hi girl! Its been way to long.....

Peace,=20

M2

In a message dated 8/23/06 11:38:05 PM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com writes:


> Well, wow.=A0 I guess we don't see eye to eye.=A0
>=20
> I never said I was judging anyone by their clothes or their skin or their=20
> gender.=A0 You just sort of made that part up didn't you?=A0 What I'm talk=
ing about=20
> is people's attitude.
>=20
> I don't care if you are black, asian, a middle aged white guy (like me) or=
=20
> whatever.=A0 I don't care if you're gay or straight, tall or short.=A0 So=20=
long as=20
> you are there to have a good time.=A0 I wish there were more wildly mixed=20
> parties than there are mostly these days actually.
>=20
> Part of the reason I go to parties is to meet and dance with other people=20
> from all walks of life.=A0 Its not at all about being focused on my self a=
s you=20
> put it.=A0 In fact, for me its totally the opposite.
>=20
> One of the best things I've gotten from dance culture, both at both raves=20
> and clubs, is that I've gotten to meet and dance with all different types=20=
of=20
> people froma ll over the world.=A0 The reason I go out rather than staying=
 home=20
> and playing records myself is these other people.
>=20
> What I'm saying is that if people aren't at a party to have a good time, i=
f=20
> they're posing or just there to show off their clothes or get laid or get=20
> drunk/wasted, if they're already drunk/wasted and aggresive out of control=
, or=20
> simply tired and depressed for whatever reason, if the flow and set timing=
 of=20
> the music are off, if there's just no energy in the room, then its probabl=
y=20
> not going to be a very fun party.=A0=A0 Still I'll always give it a go.=
=A0 But=20
> personally after a few hours of that I'm going to be further on up the roa=
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> that makes me jaded, then so be it.
>=20
> Peace,
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> Peter
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Getting old now. :)

Hey I'm glad you can live with it, since the alternatives would be bad! Be careful tho, my list postings can kill.  Heh.

I like drunken idiots so long as they are dancing and smiling and having a good time.  If they are lurking around the edge of the dance floor, nursing their drinks and their anger, or obviously looking to "get lucky", I'm much less favorable.

FWIW I'm very happy Karina is alive and well, and lets all keep focused on trying to help her find a good gig or whatever else she needs right now.

Peace,

Peter

P.S. 36 is young my friend.  Only in the rave scene do people in their 30s think they are "geriatric." 


----- Original Message ----
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Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 6:53:11 AM
Subject: [sfraves] Getting old now. :)

Peter, I can live with this response. Attitude is everything. But I still 
have a problem with general classifications of people. And thats what I heard. I 
didn't mean to imply you judged by clothes, skin, or gender, just saying I 
don't. 

One of my biggest enjoyments of the dance culture is meeting peole as well, 
and when there is a drunken idiot around, I avoid them, however, I enjoy being 
a drunken idiot from time to time myself! :) Never out in public though....

I appreciate the dialogue and keeping it civil. Its not often you can have 
that and have it not get carried away or have people getting all butt hurt. Its 
truly a way for me to have personal growth. I thank you for that. 

If you're a myspace whore like I've become stop by and say hello. 
www.myspace.com/cuandoque

And not to lose focus on what started this. Karina, glad to hear you're ok if 
you stomach reading this. Say hi girl! Its been way to long.....

Peace, 

M2

In a message dated 8/23/06 11:38:05 PM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com writes:


> Well, wow.  I guess we don't see eye to eye. 
> 
> I never said I was judging anyone by their clothes or their skin or their 
> gender.  You just sort of made that part up didn't you?  What I'm talking about 
> is people's attitude.
> 
> I don't care if you are black, asian, a middle aged white guy (like me) or 
> whatever.  I don't care if you're gay or straight, tall or short.  So long as 
> you are there to have a good time.  I wish there were more wildly mixed 
> parties than there are mostly these days actually.
> 
> Part of the reason I go to parties is to meet and dance with other people 
> from all walks of life.  Its not at all about being focused on my self as you 
> put it.  In fact, for me its totally the opposite.
> 
> One of the best things I've gotten from dance culture, both at both raves 
> and clubs, is that I've gotten to meet and dance with all different types of 
> people froma ll over the world.  The reason I go out rather than staying home 
> and playing records myself is these other people.
> 
> What I'm saying is that if people aren't at a party to have a good time, if 
> they're posing or just there to show off their clothes or get laid or get 
> drunk/wasted, if they're already drunk/wasted and aggresive out of control, or 
> simply tired and depressed for whatever reason, if the flow and set timing of 
> the music are off, if there's just no energy in the room, then its probably 
> not going to be a very fun party.   Still I'll always give it a go.  But 
> personally after a few hours of that I'm going to be further on up the road.  If 
> that makes me jaded, then so be it.
> 
> Peace,
> 
> Peter
> 





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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove


my old e-mail address flashes by the screen at one
point as well! 
:D



--- Spinmylifeaway@aol.com wrote:

> If you'll notice in the movie. My original email
> address from SF Raves 
> posting is in the movie. BigM009@aol.com.... :)
> 
> M2
> 
> In a message dated 8/23/06 11:56:24 PM,
> technicak47@yahoo.com writes:
> 
> 
> > watched that shit like 2 times today. good fucking
> movie
> > 
> 
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Hey hey, Uncle Noah lives. What up Noah? 

Peace, 

M2 (marty)

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> 
> my old e-mail address flashes by the screen at one
> point as well!
> :D
> 


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Peter, I'm always looking to get lucky, and its always pretty obvious! I 
guess I'm a bad bad man....

:)


M2

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> obviously looking to "get lucky", I'm much less favorable.
> 


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P.S. I don't think I'm old at all, at least I don't feel old. You either hav=
e=20
it in your blood or you don't. Can't wait for burning man!=20


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> P.S. 36 is young my friend.=A0 Only in the rave scene do people in their 3=
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> think they are "geriatric."
>=20
>=20
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Getting old now. :)

Well, depending on how you go about it.

At the party in question that spawned this thread, when I went to the bathroom for like 2 minutes, a guy had already moved in to try and hit on my wife.  And he wasn't like smiling or joking and happy about it.  When I came back he didn't smile and say, "My name is so and so, isn't it funny that I was trying to hit on your wife?" as frequently happens at parties inmy experience.  He just frowned and seemed angry.  Then he suddenly stood up and left.  He never said anything to either one of us.

Hassling women at parties is not cool.

I understand that the people that act this way are also suffering, but that doesn't mean I want to hang out with them.  You call that "judgemental", I call it discriminating wisdom.

Regards,

Peter

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Peter, I'm always looking to get lucky, and its always pretty obvious! I 
guess I'm a bad bad man....

:)


M2

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> obviously looking to "get lucky", I'm much less favorable.
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Peter,=20

Don't get me wrong here. I'm with you on this one 100%. I've kicked guy's=20
asses for this! Some guys don't know when to stop or to have respect. Is thi=
s a=20
result of him being a "hipster" or just being a fucking asshole idiot? I onl=
y=20
imagine all people who appear to be "hipsters" are not like this guy even if=
=20
they appear to be on the outside.... Most of the time however, I laugh right=
 in=20
their face, making it very obvious, which is much more fun for me.... And no=
,=20
this is not being judgmental for me, not in the least. Just blanket statemen=
ts=20
calling people or classifiying people as "hipsters" or anything else, to me,=
=20
thats what was judgemental.=20

And no, hassling women is not cool. I don't do that and don't tollerate it=20
around me either! If I see it, I will ask the woman if she needs help, and i=
f so=20
I've stepped in many of times. Not a problem for me at all.=20

If it happens often at Parties, its only a complement for you. Embrace it fo=
r=20
what it is. Guys are attracted to your wife, though misguided and=20
inappropriate, it could be the other way around?!=20

Peter, its time we take this thread off line. I'd be happy to continue any=20
further discussion, but the list doesn't need to be beat over the head with=20=
this=20
anymore. I think we are more alike than it appears to be, I'm just a stickle=
r=20
for my pet peeves is all. I need to get a life! :)=20

Peace,=20

M2

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> Well, depending on how you go about it.
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> never said anything to either one of us.
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HAHA.. DISCRIMINATING WISDOM.. PICK YOUR BATTLES.. AND YOUR PLEASEURES!!!



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Well, depending on how you go about it.

At the party in question that spawned this thread, when I went to the 
bathroom for like 2 minutes, a guy had already moved in to try and hit on my 
wife.  And he wasn't like smiling or joking and happy about it.  When I came 
back he didn't smile and say, "My name is so and so, isn't it funny that I 
was trying to hit on your wife?" as frequently happens at parties inmy 
experience.  He just frowned and seemed angry.  Then he suddenly stood up 
and left.  He never said anything to either one of us.

Hassling women at parties is not cool.

I understand that the people that act this way are also suffering, but that 
doesn't mean I want to hang out with them.  You call that "judgemental", I 
call it discriminating wisdom.

Regards,

Peter

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Peter, I'm always looking to get lucky, and its always pretty obvious! I
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:)


M2

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http://www.wired.com/news/columns/0,70761-0.html

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"Pete Ashdown: I have a friendship with Brian Behlendorf, who helped
set up Wired's first venture on the internet, Hot Wired (now Wired
News). He was also in charge of Organic and continues to be a member
of the Apache Foundation -- a founding member of the Apache Foundation
for that matter. And I initially knew him (from) the internet rave
scene, because a lot of the early rave scene was connected through
e-mail lists and the All Rave newsgroup, and of course there was a big
concentration of that in San Francisco. So I came out to San Francisco
frequently during that time."


awesome.

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina

Considering Petere's last house party had people in age range from about a 
year old to about 60 +, with just about every ethnic background there (with 
maybe the exception of someone middle eastern, but I could be wrong about 
that), straight AND gay people, and a mix of both regular folks and ravers 
alike...I'd say...well...I think that says enough, doesn't it?


>From: <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>To: Spinmylifeaway@aol.com, sarilion@sarilion.org, SFRaves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina
>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:37:41 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Well, wow.  I guess we don't see eye to eye.
>
>I never said I was judging anyone by their clothes or their skin or their 
>gender.  You just sort of made that part up didn't you?  What I'm talking 
>about is people's attitude.
>
>I don't care if you are black, asian, a middle aged white guy (like me) or 
>whatever.  I don't care if you're gay or straight, tall or short.  So long 
>as you are there to have a good time.  I wish there were more wildly mixed 
>parties than there are mostly these days actually.
>
>Part of the reason I go to parties is to meet and dance with other people 
>from all walks of life.  Its not at all about being focused on my self as 
>you put it.  In fact, for me its totally the opposite.
>
>One of the best things I've gotten from dance culture, both at both raves 
>and clubs, is that I've gotten to meet and dance with all different types 
>of people froma ll over the world.  The reason I go out rather than staying 
>home and playing records myself is these other people.
>
>What I'm saying is that if people aren't at a party to have a good time, if 
>they're posing or just there to show off their clothes or get laid or get 
>drunk/wasted, if they're already drunk/wasted and aggresive out of control, 
>or simply tired and depressed for whatever reason, if the flow and set 
>timing of the music are off, if there's just no energy in the room, then 
>its probably not going to be a very fun party.   Still I'll always give it 
>a go.  But personally after a few hours of that I'm going to be further on 
>up the road.  If that makes me jaded, then so be it.
>
>Peace,
>
>Peter
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Spinmylifeaway@aol.com
>To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; sarilion@sarilion.org; SFRaves@hyperreal.org
>Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 10:46:59 PM
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] Karina
>
>I will respond to your reply in the body.
>
>  Enjoy,
>
>  M2
>
>  In a message dated 8/23/06 9:19:26 PM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com writes:
>
>
>  Your point about not judging people?  I got the point.
>
>  Excellent!   But that really wasn't my point. My point was more to focus 
>on ones self rather than others.
>
>
>  I know Marco so I know that's not how he his or what he was saying.  
>Maybe you are being judgemental yourself?
>
>  Please explain how I'm being judgemental?
>
>  Haven't you ever encountered people that thought they were too cool, too 
>hip, just too damn good looking, to even appear slightly to be having a 
>good time at a club or party?
>
>  No, never. Why? Because I don't care nore do I judge people. I'm to busy 
>dancing my ass off and vibing with my friends... I do find I don't like or 
>care for people once I get to know them, but I never make judgement on 
>them. Especially based on race, gender, clothing style, sexual preference, 
>whether they are reall really good looking, what they drive, how much money 
>they make, etc.... That could be construded as jealousy.
>
>  Maybe they really are having a party in their pants, but the rest of us 
>will never know.  I find it to be somewhat of a downer personally to be 
>around a bunch of people with dour faces at a party.
>
>  This is all you. No response from me on this....
>
>  If I notice this situation, and don't find it enjoyable, does that 
>automatically make me judgemental?  Hmm.
>
>  No, this doesn't make you judgemental. We all have preferences for our 
>likes and dislikes. Its when we judge other people for thiers is when we 
>are judgemental. I don't dig country music. But there are people who vibe 
>off it much the same way I vibe on house. I don't have to like their music 
>preferences, and I certainly have no right to judge them for theirs.
>
>  In another online community I belong to there is a saying "Assume 
>goodwill."  The idea is that in the absence of strong proof to the 
>contrary, one should always assume good will from others in the community.
>
>  This doesn't mean you have to embrace people just to assume goodwill.   I 
>both club and rave. I dress the part of either. I've been accused of as you 
>say being an "ultra cool posers and pseudo-hipsters". I'm don't even really 
>know what that means. I laugh because its just pure ignorance.
>
>  But the idea of assume goodwill cuts both ways.  Your are right that we 
>should assume goodwill from the utlra cool posers and pseudo-hipsters that 
>wouldn't give many people on this list the time of day.  After all they are 
>probably just lonely and looking for a real human connection, but totally 
>clueless about how to find one and afraid to find out what would happen if 
>they did.
>
>  How do you come to this conclusion another human is lonely or looking for 
>real human connection just from looking at them? Who gives a shit if 
>another assumes goodwill on you? I worry about whether or not I'm assuming 
>goodwill on myself. I find this allows me to direct goodwill onto others 
>without thinking about it naturally, and its usually waranted and 
>appropriate.
>
>  But by the same argument we should assume goodwill from those that 
>criticize them.  They're just practicing discriminating awareness.
>
>  Wrong, its just people being ignorant. Its perpectuating discrimanation, 
>not praticing discrimanting awareness. In my eyes there is no such they as 
>discriminating awareness. That could be a whole other discussion however.
>
>  I've found "assume goodwill" to be a very challenging and insightful 
>little mantra.  Try it yourself and you might find the same.
>
>  I guess the easy response to this would be to say rise above the 
>challenge. I realize life is not always that simple. But we need to start 
>somewhere. And that somewhere is within ourselves. Not within the judgement 
>of others. Next time you find yourself in that situation, smile and 
>remember why you are there at that particular moment, hopefully its the 
>music!
>
>  Peace,
>
>  Peter
>
>  A quick little story. I'm sitting in the parking lot a few weeks ago in 
>my car waiting for my son. It was already dark, after 9:00pm. I was 
>listening to some house music with my window down, not loud enough to hear 
>very far from outside the car, if at all, and up walks this guy who asks me 
>what I'm listening to. I told him and he offs his ear phones and says, 
>here, listen to this. It was some crazy ass hip hop. Smoth, funky, and raw. 
>It was this cats music. I laughed a little bit and asked, did you really 
>expect me to be into hiphop? (I'm a middle aged white dude sitting in a 
>family car, glasses on, having my nerd look going on). His reply was, most 
>definately, I never judge a book by its cover. I bought his CD from him 
>right then and there. $10. Simply out of respect for not judging me and 
>having the heart to hustle for what he believed in. I dig the CD which is 
>an added bonus.
>
>  When I first signed onto SF Raves back in 96 I remember my first post 
>vividly. (Is Bodhi around still?) Bodhi sent out a thread talking about how 
>he was scared by some mexican hoodlums as he stated. I ripped into him and 
>started a huge flame war. Me being new to the list I got shit from every 
>single member. That was, until I explained myself, and after me and Bodhi 
>use to corresponde frequently as friends.
>
>  See, I was the only white kid who grew up in East Salinas. 100% of my 
>friends at the time were Mexican. Just because someone is Mexican or 
>dresses a certain way doesn't make them a hoodlum. Even if their dress 
>style is gangster or cholo in someone elses eyes. I know plenty of cholo's 
>who I would have in my home and trust with my life. Not because they'd 
>shoot or kill for me, but because they are good people. I can't even begin 
>to tell you what good food I use to eat from my friends moms when in their 
>homes. Home made tortilla's are the shit........ Grow up.
>
>  Peace,
>
>  M2
>
>

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Getting old now. :)



----- Original Message ----
From: Spinmylifeaway@aol.com

---
Don't get me wrong here. I'm with you on this one 100%. I've kicked guy's 
asses for this! Some guys don't know when to stop or to have respect. Is this a 
result of him being a "hipster" or just being a fucking asshole idiot? 
---

Good point:

The current SF definition of "hipster" is:

Skinny kids with vintage tees/levis/conductor hats/chucks/dunks/cut up goodwill clothes/funny haircuts/ironic moustaches or haute-couture versions of these (depending on the presence or absence of high-paying tech job/trust fund).  They listen to dance rock, minimal techno, electro-house, IDM-y pop and mashups and ride track bikes and mopeds around.  A lot of them are vegan, a lot of them eat giant steaks just to fuck with the vegan ones.

They are, by and large, nice, totally nonviolent (unless they're being violent in an ironic way), and mainly guilty of cliqueish behavior.  Their only "macho" issues are occasional beer/coke abuse spurred on by friends' excesses.

They are not the people hitting on anybody's wife, getting huffy on the dancefloor, or anything.  By and large, they're off having fun.  They u may act a little too cool for school now and then but they're not causing trouble.

The people Peter's talking about are.....

(wait for it...)

Guidos/Marina Men.  

BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG difference.  These are the meatheads you speak of.

-G




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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Getting old now. :)


You forgot the part about typicalling inhaling gobs of cocaine whenever 
available.

What's funny is I filter through a lot of different scenes/circles, and 
find the smack talk humorous.  Basically swap names and it's all about the 
same.  It's worthy of creating some for of web based Mad Lib type of page 
just for fun.

However, regardless of the scene, if you put on Gnarles Barkley everyone 
starts grooving.

Go figure.



At 09:47 AM 8/24/2006, georgeC | origami wrote:
>The current SF definition of "hipster" is:
>
>Skinny kids with vintage tees/levis/conductor hats/chucks/dunks/cut up 
>goodwill clothes/funny haircuts/ironic moustaches or haute-couture 
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>tech job/trust fund).  They listen to dance rock, minimal techno, 
>electro-house, IDM-y pop and mashups and ride track bikes and mopeds 
>around.  A lot of them are vegan, a lot of them eat giant steaks just to 
>fuck with the vegan ones.


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you just described yourself, george.

:)

> The current SF definition of "hipster" is:
>
> Skinny kids with vintage tees/levis/conductor hats/chucks/dunks/cut up goodwill clothes/funny haircuts/ironic moustaches or haute-couture versions of these (depending on the presence or absence of high-paying tech job/trust fund).  They listen to dance rock, minimal techno, electro-house, IDM-y pop and mashups and ride track bikes and mopeds around.  A lot of them are vegan, a lot of them eat giant steaks just to fuck with the vegan ones.


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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Gravers (was Karina)


If there isn't the occasional "OMG...  Vlad was't wearing ANY black 
saturday night!  I saw him.  No eye liner either.  He also forgot his 
fangs.  He's totally being kicked off this list!" I would be very disappointed.


At 01:58 AM 8/24/2006, J.C. wrote:
>I would say it's about 75-80% politics and 20-25% music/raves.
>But I would also say that there's less traffic there vs. the more traffic 
>that apollo thinks.  Looking at my folders of saved messages for Aug, 
>they're looking fairly similar, but that's just what I saw as worthy of 
>keeping around for at least a little while. :)


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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Gravers (was Karina)

BWAHAHAHA!

Nice 1!




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>To: "J.C." <dougm@kzsu.stanford.edu>, SFRaves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] Gravers (was Karina)
>Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 10:12:10 -0700
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>
>If there isn't the occasional "OMG...  Vlad was't wearing ANY black 
>saturday night!  I saw him.  No eye liner either.  He also forgot his 
>fangs.  He's totally being kicked off this list!" I would be very 
>disappointed.
>
>
>At 01:58 AM 8/24/2006, J.C. wrote:
>>I would say it's about 75-80% politics and 20-25% music/raves.
>>But I would also say that there's less traffic there vs. the more traffic 
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Is Vlad still on here too?!=20

In a message dated 8/24/06 10:16:49 AM, shatter@sonic.net writes:


>=20
> If there isn't the occasional "OMG...=A0 Vlad was't wearing ANY black
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I know.. I actually miss the mass Vlad attack days..lol



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From: Shatter <shatter@sonic.net>
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If there isn't the occasional "OMG...  Vlad was't wearing ANY black saturday 
night!  I saw him.  No eye liner either.  He also forgot his fangs.  He's 
totally being kicked off this list!" I would be very disappointed.


At 01:58 AM 8/24/2006, J.C. wrote:
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>But I would also say that there's less traffic there vs. the more traffic 
>that apollo thinks.  Looking at my folders of saved messages for Aug, 
>they're looking fairly similar, but that's just what I saw as worthy of 
>keeping around for at least a little while. :)


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he only eats cuban beefsteak to be ironic

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i stand corrected.

vegan or not, who can say no to cuban beefsteak?

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> A
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> >
> >
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Homebase was bitter sweet...

In a message dated 8/24/06 10:29:15 AM, plurranger@hotmail.com writes:


> I know.. I actually miss the mass Vlad attack days..lol
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> 
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Rave DJ Running Against Hatch in Utah

Pete used to be in charge of Playskool I believe in SLC (which was one of
the only steady rave warehouses, most all other raves happened out in the
desert or the forests).. it was unfortunately shut down before I started
partying in 95 but I hear it was quite the good time and a huge change
from church dances or tipping cows! ;)  My brother got to go but my
parents wouldn't let me go with him.  Pete also ran/runs XMission.  Utah's
biggest indie ISP.

Recently, President Bush notified the press that he would attend Orrin
Hatch's fundraiser dinner.  In response, Pete Ashdown is holding a dinner,
free of charge for 150 people at the Alta Club.  He says Bush and company
are welcome to attend it too.  This dinner is out of his own pocket and he
hopes that the people who come will donate a bunch of money to a charity
of their choice to combat hunger.  In fact, I think pretty much all of
Pete's campaign is being financed by himself.

-Rayn

> "Pete Ashdown: I have a friendship with Brian Behlendorf, who helped
> set up Wired's first venture on the internet, Hot Wired (now Wired
> News). He was also in charge of Organic and continues to be a member
> of the Apache Foundation -- a founding member of the Apache Foundation
> for that matter. And I initially knew him (from) the internet rave
> scene, because a lot of the early rave scene was connected through
> e-mail lists and the All Rave newsgroup, and of course there was a big
> concentration of that in San Francisco. So I came out to San Francisco
> frequently during that time."
>
>
> awesome.
>
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and speaking of Guidios...

my girlfriend coined a term that described the cilentelle of a bar she
recently hit in St. Louis. some cologne-soaked gold-chain wearing Guidos,
and some just generally weird and creepy dudes, aka...

"GUIERDOS."

hehehehe.

------>G

labeling people is GRATE!  :P



On 8/24/06, georgeC | origami <newstylesound@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Spinmylifeaway@aol.com
>
> ---
> Don't get me wrong here. I'm with you on this one 100%. I've kicked guy's
> asses for this! Some guys don't know when to stop or to have respect. Is
> this a
> result of him being a "hipster" or just being a fucking asshole idiot?
> ---
>
> Good point:
>
> The current SF definition of "hipster" is:
>
> Skinny kids with vintage tees/levis/conductor hats/chucks/dunks/cut up
> goodwill clothes/funny haircuts/ironic moustaches or haute-couture versions
> of these (depending on the presence or absence of high-paying tech job/trust
> fund).  They listen to dance rock, minimal techno, electro-house, IDM-y pop
> and mashups and ride track bikes and mopeds around.  A lot of them are
> vegan, a lot of them eat giant steaks just to fuck with the vegan ones.
>
> They are, by and large, nice, totally nonviolent (unless they're being
> violent in an ironic way), and mainly guilty of cliqueish behavior.  Their
> only "macho" issues are occasional beer/coke abuse spurred on by friends'
> excesses.
>
> They are not the people hitting on anybody's wife, getting huffy on the
> dancefloor, or anything.  By and large, they're off having fun.  They u may
> act a little too cool for school now and then but they're not causing
> trouble.
>
> The people Peter's talking about are.....
>
> (wait for it...)
>
> Guidos/Marina Men.
>
> BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG difference.  These are the meatheads you speak of.
>
> -G
>
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24 hours of food poisoning can.

(with people humping loudly in the bed while I'm trying to sleep on the floor and the room is spinning)

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i stand corrected.

vegan or not, who can say no to cuban beefsteak?

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> A
>
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> > you just described yourself, george.
> >
> > :)
> >
> > > The current SF definition of "hipster" is:
> > >
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I know...  IT'S SO IRONIC IT MAKES ME WANT TO GROW A MOUSTACHE AND TAKE MY TRACK BIKE OFF SOME SWEET JUMPS! ;) ;0 ;8 ;4

vote for pedro,
-g

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you just described yourself, george.

:)

> The current SF definition of "hipster" is:
>
> Skinny kids with vintage tees/levis/conductor hats/chucks/dunks/cut up goodwill clothes/funny haircuts/ironic moustaches or haute-couture versions of these (depending on the presence or absence of high-paying tech job/trust fund).  They listen to dance rock, minimal techno, electro-house, IDM-y pop and mashups and ride track bikes and mopeds around.  A lot of them are vegan, a lot of them eat giant steaks just to fuck with the vegan ones.


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Maybe? Dubtribe Soundsystem-Do It Now

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House track: Starts out with a killer piano riff... Then into a tribal 
beat...

"I don't wanna change the world, but I'm gonna change your mind, I'm in love 
with your heart, and mind, and soul, and eyes"   Guys voice singing....

Other hooks on the track. " be fearless, do it now" into piano riff again

Anyone? 

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Yes!  This was exactly who these people were. 100 points for your GF.

Guierdos.  

The drugged outcasts of the guido nation.

Peace,

Peter


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and speaking of Guidios...

my girlfriend coined a term that described the cilentelle of a bar she
recently hit in St. Louis. some cologne-soaked gold-chain wearing Guidos,
and some just generally weird and creepy dudes, aka...

"GUIERDOS."

hehehehe.

------>G

labeling people is GRATE!  :P



On 8/24/06, georgeC | origami <newstylesound@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Spinmylifeaway@aol.com
>
> ---
> Don't get me wrong here. I'm with you on this one 100%. I've kicked guy's
> asses for this! Some guys don't know when to stop or to have respect. Is
> this a
> result of him being a "hipster" or just being a fucking asshole idiot?
> ---
>
> Good point:
>
> The current SF definition of "hipster" is:
>
> Skinny kids with vintage tees/levis/conductor hats/chucks/dunks/cut up
> goodwill clothes/funny haircuts/ironic moustaches or haute-couture versions
> of these (depending on the presence or absence of high-paying tech job/trust
> fund).  They listen to dance rock, minimal techno, electro-house, IDM-y pop
> and mashups and ride track bikes and mopeds around.  A lot of them are
> vegan, a lot of them eat giant steaks just to fuck with the vegan ones.
>
> They are, by and large, nice, totally nonviolent (unless they're being
> violent in an ironic way), and mainly guilty of cliqueish behavior.  Their
> only "macho" issues are occasional beer/coke abuse spurred on by friends'
> excesses.
>
> They are not the people hitting on anybody's wife, getting huffy on the
> dancefloor, or anything.  By and large, they're off having fun.  They u may
> act a little too cool for school now and then but they're not causing
> trouble.
>
> The people Peter's talking about are.....
>
> (wait for it...)
>
> Guidos/Marina Men.
>
> BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG difference.  These are the meatheads you speak of.
>
> -G
>
>
>
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Dubtribe Sound System, Do It Now

I fricking love that track.

Peace,

Peter

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House track: Starts out with a killer piano riff... Then into a tribal 
beat...

"I don't wanna change the world, but I'm gonna change your mind, I'm in love 
with your heart, and mind, and soul, and eyes"   Guys voice singing....

Other hooks on the track. " be fearless, do it now" into piano riff again

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I sold that last year...hot track!




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>Dubtribe Sound System, Do It Now
>
>I fricking love that track.
>
>Peace,
>
>Peter
>
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>love
>with your heart, and mind, and soul, and eyes"   Guys voice singing....
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In a message dated 8/24/06 1:06:42 PM, electrofunk138@hotmail.com writes:


> I sold that last year...hot track!
> 

OUCH! I'm looking for it!!! Anyone else got a copy to part with? 

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Vlad ... I remember when his email was something like "Rayvonie"  Rave On E  
and he posted all the time, I think at first concealing his identity. People 
were hating on Home Base parties at the time, but of course, since then, there 
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http://www.gemm.com/c/search.pl?field=ARTIST+OR+TITLE&wild=dubtribe&Go%21.x=0&Go%21.y=0&Go%21=Search

Some copies there!!!

=)




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Donno.

However saying names like Vlad, Lestat, Lucretia, Lillith, Raven, and 
Eugene are safe bets with anything to do with "Goth".


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Power to the Peaceful 2006


On Saturday, September 9th, Musician and Filmmaker, Michael Franti and his group Spearhead with Guerrilla Management will present the 8th Annual 911 Power to the Peaceful Festival at Speedway Meadows in Golden Gate Park.  "Be Peace Now" is this year's theme.  In addition to the main stage of live music, PTTP also features morning yoga, an open-air art gallery, a healing arts tent, a DJ tent, vendors and food booths, an eco village, kid's zone, valet bike parking by the SF Bicycle Coalition, and  tabling and forums by social, environmental and political organizations.  A second stage has been added for this year.  The festival begins at 9am with morning yoga, and will last until 5pm.

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2006/08/22/18299893.php


MySpace:  http://www.myspace.com/DJApollo 

Tribenet:   <http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k>http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k 
                
House Music 101:  http://livingart.com/raving/articles/housemusic101.htm

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There are a few different versions out there. I have the original release and also a two record set with some remixes including the Maui extended version and an a capella.  That's the one to have IMO.

I've seen copies at Ameoba as well as the usual specialty stores, Tweekin', etc. but that was a while ago.

I saw Dubtribe live in the basement of Club 6 a few years back and they performed this track live.  That was a fun night.

Peter

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http://www.gemm.com/c/search.pl?field=ARTIST+OR+TITLE&wild=dubtribe&Go%21.x=0&Go%21.y=0&Go%21=Search

Some copies there!!!

=)




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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove

Larry Ching is standing in line for the Bathroom :)  I think i also saw
Shane's Sillouette in one of the dancing scenes :)
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>
> Play Groove DVD director's commentary 'on' (in Special Features)
> Chapter 8
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> Director gives me & viberation props.
>
> So much more other people & shit, such a blur....the scene deserves the
> props...yeah!
>
> so whore....sorry!
>
> -t
>
> p.s. if you can find Alex Ward(DJ Science *and* Mike Migurski in the
> movie) you're a pimp.
>
> On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Delia wrote:
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>> i <3 groove... i think we all need to get together for
>> a movie night and watch it! haha fuckin plur bitches
>>
>> -D.
>>
>> --- D D <technicak47@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> watched that shit like 2 times today. good fucking
>>> movie
>>>
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Lolz.  My reply follows same style.  Enjoy.  Or not.

At 10:46 PM 8/23/2006, Spinmylifeaway@aol.com wrote:
>I will respond to your reply in the body.
>
>Enjoy,
>
>M2
>
>In a message dated 8/23/06 9:19:26 PM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com writes:
>
>
>>Your point about not judging people?  I got the point.
>
>Excellent!  But that really wasn't my point. My point was more to 
>focus on ones self rather than others.

that could be construed as selfish!

>>Haven't you ever encountered people that thought they were too 
>>cool, too hip, just too damn good looking, to even appear slightly 
>>to be having a good time at a club or party?
>
>No, never. Why? Because I don't care nore do I judge people. I'm to 
>busy dancing my ass off and vibing with my friends... I do find I 
>don't like or care for people once I get to know them, but I never 
>make judgement on them. Especially based on race, gender, clothing 
>style, sexual preference, whether they are reall really good 
>looking, what they drive, how much money they make, etc.... That 
>could be construded as jealousy.

I don't care that people own red cars.. but I still notice 
them.  Being observant isn't the same as being judgmental.  Being 
judgmental certainly doesn't necessitate jealousy, or vice versa.

>>Maybe they really are having a party in their pants, but the rest 
>>of us will never know.  I find it to be somewhat of a downer 
>>personally to be around a bunch of people with dour faces at a party.
>
>This is all you. No response from me on this....

Um.  What do you call the quoted text above this line then?  Hint: 
Try deleting parts of the email you feel no response is necessary to.

>>If I notice this situation, and don't find it enjoyable, does that 
>>automatically make me judgemental?  Hmm.
>No, this doesn't make you judgemental. We all have preferences for 
>our likes and dislikes. Its when we judge other people for thiers is 
>when we are judgemental. I don't dig country music. But there are 
>people who vibe off it much the same way I vibe on house. I don't 
>have to like their music preferences, and I certainly have no right 
>to judge them for theirs.

I don't recall anyone stating that hipsters should be put to 
death?!  They're annoying.  That's an opinion, not a judgement.

>>In another online community I belong to there is a saying "Assume 
>>goodwill."  The idea is that in the absence of strong proof to the 
>>contrary, one should always assume good will from others in the community.
>
>This doesn't mean you have to embrace people just to assume 
>goodwill.  I both club and rave. I dress the part of either. I've 
>been accused of as you say being an "ultra cool posers and 
>pseudo-hipsters". I'm don't even really know what that means. I 
>laugh because its just pure ignorance.

Well, it's good that you have a sense of humor, but doesn't it make 
more sense to alleviate your ignorance rather than just laugh at it?


>>But the idea of assume goodwill cuts both ways.  Your are right 
>>that we should assume goodwill from the utlra cool posers and 
>>pseudo-hipsters that wouldn't give many people on this list the 
>>time of day.  After all they are probably just lonely and looking 
>>for a real human connection, but totally clueless about how to find 
>>one and afraid to find out what would happen if they did.
>
>How do you come to this conclusion another human is lonely or 
>looking for real human connection just from looking at them? Who 
>gives a shit if another assumes goodwill on you? I worry about 
>whether or not I'm assuming goodwill on myself. I find this allows 
>me to direct goodwill onto others without thinking about it 
>naturally, and its usually waranted and appropriate.

You make assumptions about yourself?  It's possible to assess 
likelihood from visual observations.  Hey, the house is burning down, 
I should probably leave.  Hey, there's someone in the club acting 
funny, they probably have a motivation for doing so.


>>But by the same argument we should assume goodwill from those that 
>>criticize them.  They're just practicing discriminating awareness.
>
>Wrong, its just people being ignorant. Its perpectuating 
>discrimanation, not praticing discrimanting awareness. In my eyes 
>there is no such they as discriminating awareness. That could be a 
>whole other discussion however.

Bummer.  Discrimination is often based on plentiful facts, not a dearth.


>>I've found "assume goodwill" to be a very challenging and 
>>insightful little mantra.  Try it yourself and you might find the same.
>
>I guess the easy response to this would be to say rise above the 
>challenge. I realize life is not always that simple. But we need to 
>start somewhere. And that somewhere is within ourselves. Not within 
>the judgement of others. Next time you find yourself in that 
>situation, smile and remember why you are there at that particular 
>moment, hopefully its the music!

Sweet!  So when you wake up, and I'm robbing your house, remember, 
you're there for sleep!


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At 06:53 AM 8/24/2006, Spinmylifeaway@aol.com wrote:
>Peter, I can live with this response. Attitude is everything. But I still
>have a problem with general classifications of people. And thats 
>what I heard. I
>didn't mean to imply you judged by clothes, skin, or gender, just saying I
>don't.

Classification != judgement.

We're all human (class)
Many of us here are ravers (class)
I'm a technophile (class)
White people are dumb (stereotype)
People that wear red are dumb (judgement)


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hah!  i did that last saturday on the Bay Bridge...

and yes, it was a long night Friday at Mighty Breaks. ;-)
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Say wha?

Yeah... It's something I've always wanted to do but circumstances never fell
into place.  Well it seems as though the tides have changed so here I am
seeking info from you guys to guide me in this venture...

Basically...

The date I have available is Oct 28 - Saturday. 

Anyone know of anything else being planned already on that date? At least on
the ug/warehouse tip? 

If I ain't steppin on anyone's toes... Then I'm gonna go for it, but I'd
love ot hear from you first so hit me back asap if you know of someone's
toes already sticking out there...

; )
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hi dina...

first off...it was really nice seeing you on sunday...wikked beats :)
i'll email you separetly in regards to the cd :)

halloooween party.....
oh please!! oh please!! say it's not in sac and that your going to throw it out here in sf/eastbay...{crosses fingers & toes}}

as to other parties...i havent heard of anything yet...pacific sound's boat halloween party is usually on the sunday, but i heard they moved it to the first weekend of oct...

xoxo
~adriana

Dragn'fly <dragnfly@djdragnfly.com> wrote: 
Say wha?

Yeah... It's something I've always wanted to do but circumstances never fell
into place.  Well it seems as though the tides have changed so here I am
seeking info from you guys to guide me in this venture...

Basically...

The date I have available is Oct 28 - Saturday. 

Anyone know of anything else being planned already on that date? At least on
the ug/warehouse tip? 

If I ain't steppin on anyone's toes... Then I'm gonna go for it, but I'd
love ot hear from you first so hit me back asap if you know of someone's
toes already sticking out there...

; )
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it would be bay area... yup.
 
and your cd is on the way doll.
 
great seeing you again too!
 
; )
d

  _____  

From: adriana [mailto:eesiad1@yahoo.com] 
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Dragnfly THROWING a Halloween UG?


hi dina...

first off...it was really nice seeing you on sunday...wikked beats :)
i'll email you separetly in regards to the cd :)

halloooween party.....
oh please!! oh please!! say it's not in sac and that your going to throw it
out here in sf/eastbay...{crosses fingers & toes}}

as to other parties...i havent heard of anything yet...pacific sound's boat
halloween party is usually on the sunday, but i heard they moved it to the
first weekend of oct...

xoxo
~adriana

Dragn'fly <dragnfly@djdragnfly.com> wrote: 


Say wha?

Yeah... It's something I've always wanted to do but circumstances never fell
into place. Well it seems as though the tides have changed so here I am
seeking info from you guys to guide me in this venture...

Basically...

The date I have available is Oct 28 - Saturday. 

Anyone know of anything else being planned already on that date? At least on
the ug/warehouse tip? 

If I ain't steppin on anyone's toes... Then I'm gonna go for it, but I'd
love ot hear from you first so hit me back asap if you know of someone's
toes already sticking out there...

; )
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need any help?  BA location, or sac?


sarilion

At 07:02 PM 8/24/2006, you wrote:

>Say wha?
>
>Yeah... It's something I've always wanted to do but circumstances never fell
>into place.  Well it seems as though the tides have changed so here I am
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>
>Basically...
>
>The date I have available is Oct 28 - Saturday.
>
>Anyone know of anything else being planned already on that date? At least on
>the ug/warehouse tip?
>
>If I ain't steppin on anyone's toes... Then I'm gonna go for it, but I'd
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>toes already sticking out there...
>
>; )
>d
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Dragnfly THROWING a Halloween UG?

evil breaks is throwing a party at Jelly's on Friday the 27th, so no
toes stepped on here.

;)

dina throwing a rave?  what???


On 8/24/06, Dragn'fly <dragnfly@djdragnfly.com> wrote:
>
> Say wha?
>
> Yeah... It's something I've always wanted to do but circumstances never fell
> into place.  Well it seems as though the tides have changed so here I am
> seeking info from you guys to guide me in this venture...
>
> Basically...
>
> The date I have available is Oct 28 - Saturday.
>
> Anyone know of anything else being planned already on that date? At least on
> the ug/warehouse tip?
>
> If I ain't steppin on anyone's toes... Then I'm gonna go for it, but I'd
> love ot hear from you first so hit me back asap if you know of someone's
> toes already sticking out there...
>
> ; )
> d
>
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August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
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woohoooooo!!!!!!

i can't wait....

Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote: evil breaks is throwing a party at Jelly's on Friday the 27th, so no
toes stepped on here.

;)

dina throwing a rave?  what???


On 8/24/06, Dragn'fly  wrote:
>
> Say wha?
>
> Yeah... It's something I've always wanted to do but circumstances never fell
> into place.  Well it seems as though the tides have changed so here I am
> seeking info from you guys to guide me in this venture...
>
> Basically...
>
> The date I have available is Oct 28 - Saturday.
>
> Anyone know of anything else being planned already on that date? At least on
> the ug/warehouse tip?
>
> If I ain't steppin on anyone's toes... Then I'm gonna go for it, but I'd
> love ot hear from you first so hit me back asap if you know of someone's
> toes already sticking out there...
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LOL perfect!!!! I've just always wanted to take a
picture of Osby on the Muni holding a huge discoball
for a flyer lol

-D.

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> 
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Osby needs to be holding a mirror with a pile of white powder on it 
in one hand, and a collar / leash combo in the other hand.

:)


sarilion

At 09:06 PM 8/24/2006, you wrote:
>LOL perfect!!!! I've just always wanted to take a
>picture of Osby on the Muni holding a huge discoball
>for a flyer lol
>
>-D.
>
>--- dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > Heh, I have a Hoberman sphere I can bring ;)
> >
> > (Don't know what a Hoberman sphere is?  Its that
> > expando toy the guy plays with at the end.  See
> > http://hoberman.com/fold/Sphere/sphere.htm)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
> > To: D D <technicak47@yahoo.com>; SFR
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> > a movie night and watch it! haha fuckin plur bitches
> >
> > -D.
> >
> > --- D D <technicak47@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
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> > > movie
> > >
> > >
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Subject: [sfraves] records stolen....but new records found :)

so i'm encouraged.  i've gotten well over 200 bucks in
donations via paypal and gift certificates a plenty..
so i wanted to thank everyone for your extreme
generosity.  my old records may have been given up to
the kleptovinylmaniacs but the seeds of a new crate
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so yeah..i'm working it back up.  slowly :)

whoop!

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What's your mailing addy girl?  I'd like to donate a few tracks to ya to
replace your arsenol.

What genres you want? You decide on a few...  He he since I know you're
tastebuds got stretched a wee bit since obsoleet.

Woo hoo!

; )
d

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so i'm encouraged.  i've gotten well over 200 bucks in donations via paypal
and gift certificates a plenty..
so i wanted to thank everyone for your extreme generosity.  my old records
may have been given up to the kleptovinylmaniacs but the seeds of a new
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Holy shit!

That would be soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...........

Perfect. 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:07 PM
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LOL perfect!!!! I've just always wanted to take a picture of Osby on the
Muni holding a huge discoball for a flyer lol

-D.

--- dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:

> Heh, I have a Hoberman sphere I can bring ;)
> 
> (Don't know what a Hoberman sphere is?  Its that expando toy the guy 
> plays with at the end.  See
> http://hoberman.com/fold/Sphere/sphere.htm)
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Peter
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
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> To: D D <technicak47@yahoo.com>; SFR
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> i <3 groove... i think we all need to get together for a movie night 
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> 
> -D.
> 
> --- D D <technicak47@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > watched that shit like 2 times today. good fucking movie
> > 
> >              
> > ---------------------------------
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> 
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Osby, you been baking bread in that outdoor kitchen again?

-----Original Message-----
From: Sarilion [mailto:sarilion@sarilion.org] 
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:29 PM
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Osby needs to be holding a mirror with a pile of white powder on it in one
hand, and a collar / leash combo in the other hand.

:)


sarilion

At 09:06 PM 8/24/2006, you wrote:
>LOL perfect!!!! I've just always wanted to take a picture of Osby on 
>the Muni holding a huge discoball for a flyer lol
>
>-D.
>
>--- dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > Heh, I have a Hoberman sphere I can bring ;)
> >
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> >
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Subject: RE: [sfraves] Groove

nah nah nah...it was brownies in the bbq!!! LMFAO

-D.


--- Dragn'fly <dragnfly@djdragnfly.com> wrote:

> 
> Osby, you been baking bread in that outdoor kitchen
> again?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sarilion [mailto:sarilion@sarilion.org] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:29 PM
> To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove
> 
> Osby needs to be holding a mirror with a pile of
> white powder on it in one
> hand, and a collar / leash combo in the other hand.
> 
> :)
> 
> 
> sarilion
> 
> At 09:06 PM 8/24/2006, you wrote:
> >LOL perfect!!!! I've just always wanted to take a
> picture of Osby on 
> >the Muni holding a huge discoball for a flyer lol
> >
> >-D.
> >
> >--- dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > > Heh, I have a Hoberman sphere I can bring ;)
> > >
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> > > Peter
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> > >
> > > i <3 groove... i think we all need to get
> together for a movie night 
> > > and watch it! haha fuckin plur bitches
> > >
> > > -D.
> > >
> > > --- D D <technicak47@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > watched that shit like 2 times today. good
> fucking movie
> > > >
> > > >
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> yr.
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Subject: RE: [sfraves] Groove

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!  Heeeeeeeeeello 2Day... y'all crack my eggnuts! 
BONQUOK!!!!!
-- 
Take Care <3
Peace=->Jus' Me =-> O§bY {8O)



Delia wrote:
> nah nah nah...it was brownies in the bbq!!! LMFAO
>
> -D.
>
>
> --- Dragn'fly <dragnfly@djdragnfly.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Osby, you been baking bread in that outdoor kitchen
>> again?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sarilion [mailto:sarilion@sarilion.org]
>> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:29 PM
>> To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove
>>
>> Osby needs to be holding a mirror with a pile of
>> white powder on it in one
>> hand, and a collar / leash combo in the other hand.
>>
>> :)
>>
>>
>> sarilion
>>
>> At 09:06 PM 8/24/2006, you wrote:
>> >LOL perfect!!!! I've just always wanted to take a
>> picture of Osby on
>> >the Muni holding a huge discoball for a flyer lol
>> >
>> >-D.
>> >
>> >--- dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >
>> > > Heh, I have a Hoberman sphere I can bring ;)
>> > >
>> > > (Don't know what a Hoberman sphere is?  Its that
>> expando toy the guy
>> > > plays with at the end.  See
>> > > http://hoberman.com/fold/Sphere/sphere.htm)
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > >
>> > > Peter
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message ----
>> > > From: Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
>> > > To: D D <technicak47@yahoo.com>; SFR
>> <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>> > > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 12:19:33 AM
>> > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove
>> > >
>> > > i <3 groove... i think we all need to get
>> together for a movie night
>> > > and watch it! haha fuckin plur bitches
>> > >
>> > > -D.
>> > >
>> > > --- D D <technicak47@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > watched that shit like 2 times today. good
>> fucking movie
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > ---------------------------------
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>> yr.
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>> > > packing my bongloads!
>> > >
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Subject: [sfraves] Weekend happenings?

anything interesting going down this weekend?

doc martin at gingerbread?

mixmaster mike at mighty?

anything else sounding tasty?

-- 
--------------------------
< Brandon / DJ Bam >

DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
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August 12th:  Obsoleet
August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
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Subject: RE: [sfraves] Groove

By Grabthar's Hammer....this *must* be done.

Who has the disco ball. No, really?!?

-t

On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Dragn'fly wrote:

> Holy shit!
>
> That would be soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...........
>
> Perfect.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Delia [mailto:velouria83@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:07 PM
> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; D D; SFR
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>
> LOL perfect!!!! I've just always wanted to take a picture of Osby on the
> Muni holding a huge discoball for a flyer lol
>
> -D.
>
> --- dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Heh, I have a Hoberman sphere I can bring ;)
>>
>> (Don't know what a Hoberman sphere is?  Its that expando toy the guy
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>> http://hoberman.com/fold/Sphere/sphere.htm)
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Peter
>>
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>> To: D D <technicak47@yahoo.com>; SFR
>> <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
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>>
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>>
>> -D.
>>
>> --- D D <technicak47@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> watched that shit like 2 times today. good fucking movie
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------
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tonight:
bump-n-it @ poleng lounge (m3, sammy d, sharon buck, etc in 2 rooms)

tomorrow:
boca breaks @ boca (phil smart, plus a bunch more breaks guys)
matthew herbert @ mezzanine (this will be VERY cool.)
gun club @ dark room (sal.p from NYC, landshark live)

lots of choices as usual.
have fun whatever you do.

----->GB




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> anything interesting going down this weekend?
>
> doc martin at gingerbread?
>
> mixmaster mike at mighty?
>
> anything else sounding tasty?
>
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> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
> August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
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i only have a 10" disco ball.  but you could have Osby pose with an
exercise ball and then photoshop in the disco ball?



On 8/25/06, Terry Estioko <terry@hyperreal.org> wrote:
> By Grabthar's Hammer....this *must* be done.
>
> Who has the disco ball. No, really?!?
>
> -t
>
> On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Dragn'fly wrote:
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> > Holy shit!
> >
> > That would be soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...........
> >
> > Perfect.
> >
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> > LOL perfect!!!! I've just always wanted to take a picture of Osby on the
> > Muni holding a huge discoball for a flyer lol
> >
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> >>
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August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
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PS.  I think this is on Sunday afternoon!

lineup looks great!


On 8/25/06, Apollo <apollo@speakeasy.org> wrote:
>
> Come out and *Bang The Drum* on *August 27th, *as* 22 DJs *and* 22 MCs *blow
> up the stage at a FREE celebration of 22 years of Hip-Hop radio!!!
>
> Every year, the hottest talent on the planet reps lovely for The Greatest
> Show on Earth: *The Drum, *at* KZSU Stanford*. This year, the world's
> longest-running Hip-Hop show brings the ruckus once again, with a
> mega-lineup. . .and yes, it's FREE, and all ages. So come get some!!! From
> *1PM - 5PM *at* Casino Meadow *in* Golden Gate Park,* it's gonna be one to
> tell your great-grandkids about. . .for Real real.
>
>
> Of course we'll keep it going later that night, with a bangin' afterparty
> from *10PM-2AM *at* Club Mighty: 119 Utah St. *in* San Francisco*.
>
> So make sure you tune in to *90.1FM KZSU Stanford* for up-to-the-minute
> details, and forward the info to your folks. . .or they'll be mad atcha!!!
>
>
>
> apollo@speakeasy.org
>
> MySpace:  http://www.myspace.com/DJApollo
>
> Tribenet:   http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k
>
> Moksha Tribe:  www.mokshatribe.org
>
> House Music 101:  http://livingart.com/raving/articles/housemusic101.htm
>
>
>
> "No sage or savior has ever endorsed greed and gluttony as a path toward
> social justice or personal fulfillment.  These sane and enlightened people
> come to us from all cultures and all eras, sometimes knowing of each other
> but more often not.  Socrates and Jesus, Lao Tzu and Tolstoi, Gandhi and
> Martin Buber -- no one can find in their lives and words a jot of support
> for a political and economic regime that encourages the acquisition of
> wealth far beyond what is needed for the necessaries -- or even the
> restorative pleasures -- of life while consigning the masses to live and
> work in squalor."
> -Stephen J. Fortunato, Associate Justice, Rhode Island Supreme Court.
>
> "Music is prophecy, its style and economic organization are ahead of the
> rest of society. It makes audible the new world that will gradually become
> visible."
> -Jacques Attali in his seminal text "Noise"
>
>
>


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August 12th:  Obsoleet
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August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
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PS.&nbsp; I think this is on Sunday afternoon!<br>
<br>
lineup looks great!<br>
<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/25/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Apollo</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:apollo@speakeasy.org">apollo@speakeasy.org</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div style=""><p style="margin: 0px 0px 18px;">Come out and <b>Bang The Drum</b> on <b>August 27th, </b>as<b> 22 DJs </b>and<b> 22 MCs </b>blow up the stage at a FREE celebration of 22 years of Hip-Hop radio!!!</p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 18px;">
Every year, the hottest talent on the planet reps lovely for The Greatest Show on Earth: <b>The Drum, </b>at<b> KZSU Stanford</b>.
This year, the world's longest-running Hip-Hop show brings the ruckus
once again, with a mega-lineup. . .and yes, it's FREE, and all ages. So
come get some!!! From <b>1PM - 5PM </b>at<b> Casino Meadow </b>in<b> Golden Gate Park,</b> it's gonna be one to tell your great-grandkids about. . .for Real real.</p><br><img src="cid:4F293285-3498-4EE9-AC6A-3EC737CAF47D@local">
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 18px; font-family: Arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 18px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; min-height: 21px;"><br></p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 18px;">
Of course we'll keep it going later that night, with a bangin' afterparty from <b>10PM-2AM </b>at<b> Club Mighty: 119 Utah St. </b>in<b> San Francisco</b>.</p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 18px;">So make sure you tune in to <b>
90.1FM KZSU Stanford</b> for up-to-the-minute details, and forward the info to your folks. . .or they'll be mad atcha!!!</p><br><br><div> <span style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">
<div><br></div><div><a href="mailto:apollo@speakeasy.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">apollo@speakeasy.org</a></div><div><br></div><div>MySpace:&nbsp;<span>&nbsp;</span><a href="http://www.myspace.com/DJApollo" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
http://www.myspace.com/DJApollo</a><span>&nbsp;</span><br><br>Tribenet:&nbsp;&nbsp;<span>&nbsp;</span><a href="http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k
</a><span>&nbsp;</span><br><br>Moksha Tribe:&nbsp;<span>&nbsp;</span><a href="http://www.mokshatribe.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">www.mokshatribe.org</a><br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>House Music 101:&nbsp;
<span>&nbsp;</span><a href="http://livingart.com/raving/articles/housemusic101.htm" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://livingart.com/raving/articles/housemusic101.htm</a><br><br><br><br>
&quot;No
sage or savior has ever endorsed greed and gluttony as a path toward
social justice or personal fulfillment.&nbsp; These sane and
enlightened people come to us from all cultures and all eras, sometimes
knowing of each other but more often not.&nbsp; Socrates and Jesus, Lao
Tzu and Tolstoi, Gandhi and Martin Buber -- no one can find in their
lives and words a jot of support for a political and economic regime
that encourages the acquisition of wealth far beyond what is needed for
the necessaries -- or even the restorative pleasures -- of life while
consigning the masses to live and work in squalor.&quot;<br>-Stephen J. Fortunato, Associate Justice, Rhode Island Supreme Court.<br><br>&quot;Music
is prophecy, its style and economic organization are ahead of the rest
of society. It makes audible the new world that will gradually become
visible.&quot;<br>-Jacques Attali in his seminal text &quot;Noise&quot;</div><br></span> </div><br></div>
</div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>--------------------------<br>&lt; Brandon / DJ Bam &gt;<br><br>DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats<br><a href="http://www.evilbreaks.com">http://www.evilbreaks.com</a>
<br><br>August 12th:&nbsp;&nbsp;Obsoleet<br>August 16th:&nbsp;&nbsp;Bassdrop @ BOCA<br>August 18th:&nbsp;&nbsp;Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots<br>September 23rd:&nbsp;&nbsp;Lovefest and Afterparty<br>October 27th:&nbsp;&nbsp;Aquasky @ Jelly's

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Yea...will prolly wind up there after work Sunday...woot!




>From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
>To: Apollo <apollo@speakeasy.org>
>CC: SFRaves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: Bang the Drum This Saturday...Free Day Party in 
>GGP
>Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 12:33:40 -0700
>
>PS.  I think this is on Sunday afternoon!
>
>lineup looks great!
>
>
>On 8/25/06, Apollo <apollo@speakeasy.org> wrote:
>>
>>Come out and *Bang The Drum* on *August 27th, *as* 22 DJs *and* 22 MCs 
>>*blow
>>up the stage at a FREE celebration of 22 years of Hip-Hop radio!!!
>>
>>Every year, the hottest talent on the planet reps lovely for The Greatest
>>Show on Earth: *The Drum, *at* KZSU Stanford*. This year, the world's
>>longest-running Hip-Hop show brings the ruckus once again, with a
>>mega-lineup. . .and yes, it's FREE, and all ages. So come get some!!! From
>>*1PM - 5PM *at* Casino Meadow *in* Golden Gate Park,* it's gonna be one to
>>tell your great-grandkids about. . .for Real real.
>>
>>
>>Of course we'll keep it going later that night, with a bangin' afterparty
>>from *10PM-2AM *at* Club Mighty: 119 Utah St. *in* San Francisco*.
>>
>>So make sure you tune in to *90.1FM KZSU Stanford* for up-to-the-minute
>>details, and forward the info to your folks. . .or they'll be mad atcha!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>apollo@speakeasy.org
>>
>>MySpace:  http://www.myspace.com/DJApollo
>>
>>Tribenet:   http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k
>>
>>Moksha Tribe:  www.mokshatribe.org
>>
>>House Music 101:  http://livingart.com/raving/articles/housemusic101.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>"No sage or savior has ever endorsed greed and gluttony as a path toward
>>social justice or personal fulfillment.  These sane and enlightened people
>>come to us from all cultures and all eras, sometimes knowing of each other
>>but more often not.  Socrates and Jesus, Lao Tzu and Tolstoi, Gandhi and
>>Martin Buber -- no one can find in their lives and words a jot of support
>>for a political and economic regime that encourages the acquisition of
>>wealth far beyond what is needed for the necessaries -- or even the
>>restorative pleasures -- of life while consigning the masses to live and
>>work in squalor."
>>-Stephen J. Fortunato, Associate Justice, Rhode Island Supreme Court.
>>
>>"Music is prophecy, its style and economic organization are ahead of the
>>rest of society. It makes audible the new world that will gradually become
>>visible."
>>-Jacques Attali in his seminal text "Noise"
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>--
>--------------------------
>< Brandon / DJ Bam >
>
>DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
>http://www.evilbreaks.com
>
>August 12th:  Obsoleet
>August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
>August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
>September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
>October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's

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On Aug 25, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Bam wrote:

> PS.  I think this is on Sunday afternoon!

Yep...You're right!!!   Sunday.  These parties are always great fun.


>
> lineup looks great!
>
>
> On 8/25/06, Apollo <apollo@speakeasy.org> wrote:
> Come out and Bang The Drum on August 27th, as 22 DJs and 22 MCs  
> blow up the stage at a FREE celebration of 22 years of Hip-Hop  
> radio!!!
>
> Every year, the hottest talent on the planet reps lovely for The  
> Greatest Show on Earth: The Drum, at KZSU Stanford. This year, the  
> world's longest-running Hip-Hop show brings the ruckus once again,  
> with a mega-lineup. . .and yes, it's FREE, and all ages. So come  
> get some!!! From 1PM - 5PM at Casino Meadow in Golden Gate Park,  
> it's gonna be one to tell your great-grandkids about. . .for Real  
> real.
>
>
> <BTDmap.jpg>
>
>
> Of course we'll keep it going later that night, with a bangin'  
> afterparty from 10PM-2AM at Club Mighty: 119 Utah St. in San  
> Francisco.
>
> So make sure you tune in to 90.1FM KZSU Stanford for up-to-the- 
> minute details, and forward the info to your folks. . .or they'll  
> be mad atcha!!!
>
>
>
>
> apollo@speakeasy.org
>
> MySpace:   http://www.myspace.com/DJApollo
>
> Tribenet:   http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k
>
> Moksha Tribe:  www.mokshatribe.org
>
> House Music 101:   http://livingart.com/raving/articles/ 
> housemusic101.htm
>
>
>
> "No sage or savior has ever endorsed greed and gluttony as a path  
> toward social justice or personal fulfillment.  These sane and  
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> beyond what is needed for the necessaries -- or even the  
> restorative pleasures -- of life while consigning the masses to  
> live and work in squalor."
> -Stephen J. Fortunato, Associate Justice, Rhode Island Supreme Court.
>
> "Music is prophecy, its style and economic organization are ahead  
> of the rest of society. It makes audible the new world that will  
> gradually become visible."
> -Jacques Attali in his seminal text "Noise"
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> --------------------------
> < Brandon / DJ Bam >
>
> DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
> http://www.evilbreaks.com
>
> August 12th:  Obsoleet
> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
> August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
> September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
> October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's


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I principle, yes; the bitch would be getting all the reflections in the
disco ball to match up to the environment.  But there are some very talented
graphically inclined folks on this list, I'm sure they'd be up to the
challenge...

On 8/25/06, Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> i only have a 10" disco ball.  but you could have Osby pose with an
> exercise ball and then photoshop in the disco ball?
>
>
>
> On 8/25/06, Terry Estioko <terry@hyperreal.org> wrote:
> > By Grabthar's Hammer....this *must* be done.
> >
> > Who has the disco ball. No, really?!?
> >
> > -t
> >
> > On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Dragn'fly wrote:
> >
> > > Holy shit!
> > >
> > > That would be soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...........
> > >
> > > Perfect.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Delia [mailto:velouria83@yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:07 PM
> > > To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; D D; SFR
> > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove
> > >
> > > LOL perfect!!!! I've just always wanted to take a picture of Osby on
> the
> > > Muni holding a huge discoball for a flyer lol
> > >
> > > -D.
> > >
> > > --- dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >
> > >> Heh, I have a Hoberman sphere I can bring ;)
> > >>
> > >> (Don't know what a Hoberman sphere is?  Its that expando toy the guy
> > >> plays with at the end.  See
> > >> http://hoberman.com/fold/Sphere/sphere.htm)
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >>
> > >> Peter
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message ----
> > >> From: Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
> > >> To: D D <technicak47@yahoo.com>; SFR
> > >> <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> > >> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 12:19:33 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove
> > >>
> > >> i <3 groove... i think we all need to get together for a movie night
> > >> and watch it! haha fuckin plur bitches
> > >>
> > >> -D.
> > >>
> > >> --- D D <technicak47@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> watched that shit like 2 times today. good fucking movie
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ---------------------------------
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> > >>
> > >>
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> > >>
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>
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> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
> August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
> September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
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I thought the 80's hair-band look is coming back BIG.

Ironically drinking cheap beer may never go out of style (unfortuanatly...)

Streight guys wearing woman's jeans is probalby well over.

But yeah, isn't San Francisco weird?  How you can identify someone at a club
from either being from the North side (Marina/pac heights) or the South
Side (mission/haight) in about a second?

-troy

On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 09:47:21AM -0700, georgeC | origami wrote:
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Spinmylifeaway@aol.com
> 
> ---
> Don't get me wrong here. I'm with you on this one 100%. I've kicked guy's 
> asses for this! Some guys don't know when to stop or to have respect. Is this a 
> result of him being a "hipster" or just being a fucking asshole idiot? 
> ---
> 
> Good point:
> 
> The current SF definition of "hipster" is:
> 
> Skinny kids with vintage tees/levis/conductor hats/chucks/dunks/cut up goodwill clothes/funny haircuts/ironic moustaches or haute-couture versions of these (depending on the presence or absence of high-paying tech job/trust fund).  They listen to dance rock, minimal techno, electro-house, IDM-y pop and mashups and ride track bikes and mopeds around.  A lot of them are vegan, a lot of them eat giant steaks just to fuck with the vegan ones.
> 
> They are, by and large, nice, totally nonviolent (unless they're being violent in an ironic way), and mainly guilty of cliqueish behavior.  Their only "macho" issues are occasional beer/coke abuse spurred on by friends' excesses.
> 
> They are not the people hitting on anybody's wife, getting huffy on the dancefloor, or anything.  By and large, they're off having fun.  They u may act a little too cool for school now and then but they're not causing trouble.
> 
> The people Peter's talking about are.....
> 
> (wait for it...)
> 
> Guidos/Marina Men.  
> 
> BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG difference.  These are the meatheads you speak of.
> 
> -G
> 
> 
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Mission:  They buy clohs 3rd/4th hand for cheap.  Trashed looking, faded, 
dirty, etc.  That's hip.

Marina:  They buy cloths at Abercrombie & Fitch that look old, wore out and 
aged and pay designer prices.



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www.illectrofunk.com

Go and DL the mix "Rendered".

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Only thing is, it cuts off in weird spot due to PC crash...so...

HONEST!

thanks y'all...

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Subject: [sfraves] nrr: NOPA

Just got hired on www.nopasf.com as a waiter  :)
I will still be doing the mortgage banking durring the day, I am sooo 
stoked!!
If you come in, ask for my section!
Danny

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove

If y'all reeeeeeeally wanna do this... lol... well... 1015 still owes me
hardcore & like I"m still tight w/ Andres & Marie, the head club techs
there, & i can see if they'll let me pull a giant disco ball outta the
glass room for a few hours.... but if granted the permission to like mondo
do so... we gotta do it quick... I don't want Ira or fuckin' Adam on my
ass for fucki'n around.. LoL.. actually.. ya know.. that'd be kinda fun to
get in an no no no... thinkin' out loud again.. LoL.. but yeah... lemme
ask Andres or Marie wheni see them next :)

LOLOLOLMAO.. Hello 2Day... y'all too fuckin' much man... Thanks :)

Brandon or Katya... I need 1 of y'all to come w/ me to the club one time
on like a Saturday afternoon... or if I"m in the City on a weekday... i'll
go & see...
-- 
Take Care <3
Peace=->Jus' Me =-> O§bY {8O)



Philip Sternberg wrote:
> I principle, yes; the bitch would be getting all the reflections in the
> disco ball to match up to the environment.  But there are some very
> talented
> graphically inclined folks on this list, I'm sure they'd be up to the
> challenge...
>
> On 8/25/06, Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> i only have a 10" disco ball.  but you could have Osby pose with an
>> exercise ball and then photoshop in the disco ball?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/25/06, Terry Estioko <terry@hyperreal.org> wrote:
>> > By Grabthar's Hammer....this *must* be done.
>> >
>> > Who has the disco ball. No, really?!?
>> >
>> > -t
>> >
>> > On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Dragn'fly wrote:
>> >
>> > > Holy shit!
>> > >
>> > > That would be soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...........
>> > >
>> > > Perfect.
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Delia [mailto:velouria83@yahoo.com]
>> > > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:07 PM
>> > > To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; D D; SFR
>> > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove
>> > >
>> > > LOL perfect!!!! I've just always wanted to take a picture of Osby on
>> the
>> > > Muni holding a huge discoball for a flyer lol
>> > >
>> > > -D.
>> > >
>> > > --- dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Heh, I have a Hoberman sphere I can bring ;)
>> > >>
>> > >> (Don't know what a Hoberman sphere is?  Its that expando toy the
>> guy
>> > >> plays with at the end.  See
>> > >> http://hoberman.com/fold/Sphere/sphere.htm)
>> > >>
>> > >> Regards,
>> > >>
>> > >> Peter
>> > >>
>> > >> ----- Original Message ----
>> > >> From: Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
>> > >> To: D D <technicak47@yahoo.com>; SFR
>> > >> <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>> > >> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 12:19:33 AM
>> > >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove
>> > >>
>> > >> i <3 groove... i think we all need to get together for a movie
>> night
>> > >> and watch it! haha fuckin plur bitches
>> > >>
>> > >> -D.
>> > >>
>> > >> --- D D <technicak47@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> watched that shit like 2 times today. good fucking movie
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> ---------------------------------
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>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and packing my
>> bongloads!
>> > >>
>> > >> aim= junglegurlee510
>> > >> yahoo= velouria83
>> > >> google talk= mskittiecat@gmail.com
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>>
>> --
>> --------------------------
>> < Brandon / DJ Bam >
>>
>> DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
>> http://www.evilbreaks.com
>>
>> August 12th:  Obsoleet
>> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
>> August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
>> September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
>> October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Semi BSP: Mix...

Its hot!

What's that is the track with the female vocal vocal "we're gonna j-j-j-j-jack, all right!"  ?

Too bad I don't have any blank CDs as aI have to leave shortly for the east bay.

Peter

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www.illectrofunk.com

Go and DL the mix "Rendered".

Honest opinions...

Only thing is, it cuts off in weird spot due to PC crash...so...

HONEST!

thanks y'all...

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove

hahaha yeah let me know...we just need someone with a
camera. i'm willing to carry a huge disco ball to the
muni station lol the looks i would get would be
priceless!!!

-D.

--- Osby Oi Oi Jamz <osby@viberation.com> wrote:

> If y'all reeeeeeeally wanna do this... lol...
> well... 1015 still owes me
> hardcore & like I"m still tight w/ Andres & Marie,
> the head club techs
> there, & i can see if they'll let me pull a giant
> disco ball outta the
> glass room for a few hours.... but if granted the
> permission to like mondo
> do so... we gotta do it quick... I don't want Ira or
> fuckin' Adam on my
> ass for fucki'n around.. LoL.. actually.. ya know..
> that'd be kinda fun to
> get in an no no no... thinkin' out loud again..
> LoL.. but yeah... lemme
> ask Andres or Marie wheni see them next :)
> 
> LOLOLOLMAO.. Hello 2Day... y'all too fuckin' much
> man... Thanks :)
> 
> Brandon or Katya... I need 1 of y'all to come w/ me
> to the club one time
> on like a Saturday afternoon... or if I"m in the
> City on a weekday... i'll
> go & see...
> -- 
> Take Care <3
> Peace=->Jus' Me =-> O§bY {8O)
> 
> 
> 
> Philip Sternberg wrote:
> > I principle, yes; the bitch would be getting all
> the reflections in the
> > disco ball to match up to the environment.  But
> there are some very
> > talented
> > graphically inclined folks on this list, I'm sure
> they'd be up to the
> > challenge...
> >
> > On 8/25/06, Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> i only have a 10" disco ball.  but you could have
> Osby pose with an
> >> exercise ball and then photoshop in the disco
> ball?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/25/06, Terry Estioko <terry@hyperreal.org>
> wrote:
> >> > By Grabthar's Hammer....this *must* be done.
> >> >
> >> > Who has the disco ball. No, really?!?
> >> >
> >> > -t
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Dragn'fly wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Holy shit!
> >> > >
> >> > > That would be
> soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...........
> >> > >
> >> > > Perfect.
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: Delia [mailto:velouria83@yahoo.com]
> >> > > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:07 PM
> >> > > To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; D D; SFR
> >> > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove
> >> > >
> >> > > LOL perfect!!!! I've just always wanted to
> take a picture of Osby on
> >> the
> >> > > Muni holding a huge discoball for a flyer lol
> >> > >
> >> > > -D.
> >> > >
> >> > > --- dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Heh, I have a Hoberman sphere I can bring ;)
> >> > >>
> >> > >> (Don't know what a Hoberman sphere is?  Its
> that expando toy the
> >> guy
> >> > >> plays with at the end.  See
> >> > >> http://hoberman.com/fold/Sphere/sphere.htm)
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Regards,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Peter
> >> > >>
> >> > >> ----- Original Message ----
> >> > >> From: Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
> >> > >> To: D D <technicak47@yahoo.com>; SFR
> >> > >> <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> >> > >> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 12:19:33 AM
> >> > >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove
> >> > >>
> >> > >> i <3 groove... i think we all need to get
> together for a movie
> >> night
> >> > >> and watch it! haha fuckin plur bitches
> >> > >>
> >> > >> -D.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> --- D D <technicak47@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> watched that shit like 2 times today. good
> fucking movie
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> ---------------------------------
> >> > >>> Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st
> yr.
> >> > >>> We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot
> and packing my
> >> bongloads!
> >> > >>
> >> > >> aim= junglegurlee510
> >> > >> yahoo= velouria83
> >> > >> google talk= mskittiecat@gmail.com
> >> > >> MSN @ WORK = velouria83@yahoo.com
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
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To: Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
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Am I the only one that gets massive chills and practically comes to tears o=
f
joy watching Groove? I remember the first time I saw it I was watching it
with a few people VERY unfamiliar with this scene and I kept going "yeah it
is like that!, I can feel it!" and they kept saying, "wtf is wrong with you=
,
this movie is dumb". I guess I get too emotional from music. At the end whe=
n
Digweed plays heavenscent I jump up and start yelling and shit.


On 8/26/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> hahaha yeah let me know...we just need someone with a
> camera. i'm willing to carry a huge disco ball to the
> muni station lol the looks i would get would be
> priceless!!!
>
> -D.
>
> --- Osby Oi Oi Jamz <osby@viberation.com> wrote:
>
> > If y'all reeeeeeeally wanna do this... lol...
> > well... 1015 still owes me
> > hardcore & like I"m still tight w/ Andres & Marie,
> > the head club techs
> > there, & i can see if they'll let me pull a giant
> > disco ball outta the
> > glass room for a few hours.... but if granted the
> > permission to like mondo
> > do so... we gotta do it quick... I don't want Ira or
> > fuckin' Adam on my
> > ass for fucki'n around.. LoL.. actually.. ya know..
> > that'd be kinda fun to
> > get in an no no no... thinkin' out loud again..
> > LoL.. but yeah... lemme
> > ask Andres or Marie wheni see them next :)
> >
> > LOLOLOLMAO.. Hello 2Day... y'all too fuckin' much
> > man... Thanks :)
> >
> > Brandon or Katya... I need 1 of y'all to come w/ me
> > to the club one time
> > on like a Saturday afternoon... or if I"m in the
> > City on a weekday... i'll
> > go & see...
> > --
> > Take Care <3
> > Peace=3D->Jus' Me =3D-> O=A7bY {8O)
> >
> >
> >
> > Philip Sternberg wrote:
> > > I principle, yes; the bitch would be getting all
> > the reflections in the
> > > disco ball to match up to the environment.  But
> > there are some very
> > > talented
> > > graphically inclined folks on this list, I'm sure
> > they'd be up to the
> > > challenge...
> > >
> > > On 8/25/06, Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> i only have a 10" disco ball.  but you could have
> > Osby pose with an
> > >> exercise ball and then photoshop in the disco
> > ball?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 8/25/06, Terry Estioko <terry@hyperreal.org>
> > wrote:
> > >> > By Grabthar's Hammer....this *must* be done.
> > >> >
> > >> > Who has the disco ball. No, really?!?
> > >> >
> > >> > -t
> > >> >
> > >> > On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Dragn'fly wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Holy shit!
> > >> > >
> > >> > > That would be
> > soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...........
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Perfect.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > From: Delia [mailto:velouria83@yahoo.com]
> > >> > > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:07 PM
> > >> > > To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; D D; SFR
> > >> > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove
> > >> > >
> > >> > > LOL perfect!!!! I've just always wanted to
> > take a picture of Osby on
> > >> the
> > >> > > Muni holding a huge discoball for a flyer lol
> > >> > >
> > >> > > -D.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --- dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> Heh, I have a Hoberman sphere I can bring ;)
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> (Don't know what a Hoberman sphere is?  Its
> > that expando toy the
> > >> guy
> > >> > >> plays with at the end.  See
> > >> > >> http://hoberman.com/fold/Sphere/sphere.htm)
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Regards,
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Peter
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----
> > >> > >> From: Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
> > >> > >> To: D D <technicak47@yahoo.com>; SFR
> > >> > >> <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> > >> > >> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 12:19:33 AM
> > >> > >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> i <3 groove... i think we all need to get
> > together for a movie
> > >> night
> > >> > >> and watch it! haha fuckin plur bitches
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> -D.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> --- D D <technicak47@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>> watched that shit like 2 times today. good
> > fucking movie
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>
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> > >> bongloads!
> > >> > >>
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> > >>
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> > >> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
> > >> August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
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> >
> >
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>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove

OW/RA has a Disco ball like that that they will loan us. I can be 
responsible to secure that.

Philip(pxd) is on photography.

You are clearly the model.

Are we going to do this, or muthfukin what????

Put it on the SFR homepage, at least :-)

-t

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On Sat, 26 Aug 2006, Osby Oi Oi Jamz wrote:

> If y'all reeeeeeeally wanna do this... lol... well... 1015 still owes me
> hardcore & like I"m still tight w/ Andres & Marie, the head club techs
> there, & i can see if they'll let me pull a giant disco ball outta the
> glass room for a few hours.... but if granted the permission to like mondo
> do so... we gotta do it quick... I don't want Ira or fuckin' Adam on my
> ass for fucki'n around.. LoL.. actually.. ya know.. that'd be kinda fun to
> get in an no no no... thinkin' out loud again.. LoL.. but yeah... lemme
> ask Andres or Marie wheni see them next :)
>
> LOLOLOLMAO.. Hello 2Day... y'all too fuckin' much man... Thanks :)
>
> Brandon or Katya... I need 1 of y'all to come w/ me to the club one time
> on like a Saturday afternoon... or if I"m in the City on a weekday... i'll
> go & see...
>

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove

who's going to do his makeup?


sarilion

At 04:08 PM 8/26/2006, Terry Estioko wrote:
>OW/RA has a Disco ball like that that they will loan us. I can be 
>responsible to secure that.
>
>Philip(pxd) is on photography.
>
>You are clearly the model.
>
>Are we going to do this, or muthfukin what????
>
>Put it on the SFR homepage, at least :-)
>
>-t
>
>------------------------------------------
>terry estioko     | terry@hyperreal.org
>SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org
>
>On Sat, 26 Aug 2006, Osby Oi Oi Jamz wrote:
>
>>If y'all reeeeeeeally wanna do this... lol... well... 1015 still owes me
>>hardcore & like I"m still tight w/ Andres & Marie, the head club techs
>>there, & i can see if they'll let me pull a giant disco ball outta the
>>glass room for a few hours.... but if granted the permission to like mondo
>>do so... we gotta do it quick... I don't want Ira or fuckin' Adam on my
>>ass for fucki'n around.. LoL.. actually.. ya know.. that'd be kinda fun to
>>get in an no no no... thinkin' out loud again.. LoL.. but yeah... lemme
>>ask Andres or Marie wheni see them next :)
>>
>>LOLOLOLMAO.. Hello 2Day... y'all too fuckin' much man... Thanks :)
>>
>>Brandon or Katya... I need 1 of y'all to come w/ me to the club one time
>>on like a Saturday afternoon... or if I"m in the City on a weekday... i'll
>>go & see...
>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Semi BSP: Mix...

That track is by Artcrime - can't remember the track title offhand, but I'll 
look it up this weekend and get it to ya.

I realized listening to that mix how fast I play sometimes, hehe. It's 
dedinitley not a "chill out" thing...better for a long road trip where you 
can open the throttle up a little.

Thanks for the feedback tho!!!


>From: <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>To: Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] Semi BSP: Mix...
>Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 08:35:58 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Its hot!
>
>What's that is the track with the female vocal vocal "we're gonna 
>j-j-j-j-jack, all right!"  ?
>
>Too bad I don't have any blank CDs as aI have to leave shortly for the east 
>bay.
>
>Peter
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 12:17:39 AM
>Subject: [sfraves] Semi BSP: Mix...
>
>www.illectrofunk.com
>
>Go and DL the mix "Rendered".
>
>Honest opinions...
>
>Only thing is, it cuts off in weird spot due to PC crash...so...
>
>HONEST!
>
>thanks y'all...
>
>Marco
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove

Not to be a buzzkill - but if no one has seen it, my boy Larry has a pic 
remake of this done...

I'm getting him to send it to me.

Not that it couldn't be re-done a million and one times and still be fun.

>From: Sarilion <sarilion@sarilion.org>
>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove
>Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:27:14 -0700
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>who's going to do his makeup?
>
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>sarilion
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>At 04:08 PM 8/26/2006, Terry Estioko wrote:
>>OW/RA has a Disco ball like that that they will loan us. I can be 
>>responsible to secure that.
>>
>>Philip(pxd) is on photography.
>>
>>You are clearly the model.
>>
>>Are we going to do this, or muthfukin what????
>>
>>Put it on the SFR homepage, at least :-)
>>
>>-t
>>
>>------------------------------------------
>>terry estioko     | terry@hyperreal.org
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>>On Sat, 26 Aug 2006, Osby Oi Oi Jamz wrote:
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>>>If y'all reeeeeeeally wanna do this... lol... well... 1015 still owes me
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>>>mondo
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>>>ass for fucki'n around.. LoL.. actually.. ya know.. that'd be kinda fun 
>>>to
>>>get in an no no no... thinkin' out loud again.. LoL.. but yeah... lemme
>>>ask Andres or Marie wheni see them next :)
>>>
>>>LOLOLOLMAO.. Hello 2Day... y'all too fuckin' much man... Thanks :)
>>>
>>>Brandon or Katya... I need 1 of y'all to come w/ me to the club one time
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>>>i'll
>>>go & see...
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove

Like I care.

Groove knock'offs - dime a dozen.

Groove was built around SFR (of sorts), so we're the *real* deal.

Osby, forward and onward, Hello 2day!!!!!!!!

-t

P.S. there's this hella funny spoof. Groove: BBQ, I'll dig it up.


On Sat, 26 Aug 2006, Van Mundegaarde wrote:

> Not to be a buzzkill - but if no one has seen it, my boy Larry has a pic 
> remake of this done...
>
> I'm getting him to send it to me.
>
> Not that it couldn't be re-done a million and one times and still be fun.
>
>> From: Sarilion <sarilion@sarilion.org>
>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove
>> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:27:14 -0700
>> 
>> who's going to do his makeup?
>> 
>> 
>> sarilion
>> 
>> At 04:08 PM 8/26/2006, Terry Estioko wrote:
>>> OW/RA has a Disco ball like that that they will loan us. I can be 
>>> responsible to secure that.
>>> 
>>> Philip(pxd) is on photography.
>>> 
>>> You are clearly the model.
>>> 
>>> Are we going to do this, or muthfukin what????
>>> 
>>> Put it on the SFR homepage, at least :-)
>>> 
>>> -t
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------------------
>>> terry estioko     | terry@hyperreal.org
>>> SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org
>>> 
>>> On Sat, 26 Aug 2006, Osby Oi Oi Jamz wrote:
>>> 
>>>> If y'all reeeeeeeally wanna do this... lol... well... 1015 still owes me
>>>> hardcore & like I"m still tight w/ Andres & Marie, the head club techs
>>>> there, & i can see if they'll let me pull a giant disco ball outta the
>>>> glass room for a few hours.... but if granted the permission to like 
>>>> mondo
>>>> do so... we gotta do it quick... I don't want Ira or fuckin' Adam on my
>>>> ass for fucki'n around.. LoL.. actually.. ya know.. that'd be kinda fun 
>>>> to
>>>> get in an no no no... thinkin' out loud again.. LoL.. but yeah... lemme
>>>> ask Andres or Marie wheni see them next :)
>>>> 
>>>> LOLOLOLMAO.. Hello 2Day... y'all too fuckin' much man... Thanks :)
>>>> 
>>>> Brandon or Katya... I need 1 of y'all to come w/ me to the club one time
>>>> on like a Saturday afternoon... or if I"m in the City on a weekday... 
>>>> i'll
>>>> go & see...
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it's called "Grill: the movie", and it's fucking HILARIOUS.

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Someone should do a spoof of the spoof where BBQ
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http://www.icedoutgear.com/grillz-gold-teeth.php

Peter



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At MEAT @ DNA they have the mixers and decks in a BBQ on stage.

They also grill up meat outside.  All the gogo dancers are covered and 
blood splatters.

Fun club.


At 08:15 PM 8/26/2006, Peter Rothman wrote:

>Someone should do a spoof of the spoof where BBQ
>grills are replaced with Grillz:
>http://www.icedoutgear.com/grillz-gold-teeth.php
>
>Peter


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http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/427879

Are you tastin' it?


On 8/26/06, Shatter <shatter@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>
> At MEAT @ DNA they have the mixers and decks in a BBQ on stage.
>
> They also grill up meat outside.  All the gogo dancers are covered and
> blood splatters.
>
> Fun club.
>
>
> At 08:15 PM 8/26/2006, Peter Rothman wrote:
>
> >Someone should do a spoof of the spoof where BBQ
> >grills are replaced with Grillz:
> >http://www.icedoutgear.com/grillz-gold-teeth.php
> >
> >Peter
>
>
> Shatter
>
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ok you guys just made me want to see this movie again...
anyone have a copy of it on their computer, if so can you ftp me a copy...pretty please...."GRooVE" not grill..lol..
xoxo
adriana

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Are you tastin' it?


On 8/26/06, Shatter  wrote:
>
>
> At MEAT @ DNA they have the mixers and decks in a BBQ on stage.
>
> They also grill up meat outside.  All the gogo dancers are covered and
> blood splatters.
>
> Fun club.
>
>
> At 08:15 PM 8/26/2006, Peter Rothman wrote:
>
> >Someone should do a spoof of the spoof where BBQ
> >grills are replaced with Grillz:
> >http://www.icedoutgear.com/grillz-gold-teeth.php
> >
> >Peter
>
>
> Shatter
>
> shatter@sonic.net
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BSP, anyone?  



 				
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] wtf is going on tonight?

I just finished watching UFC. Now I'm going to bed :)


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Heh, wrong thread. See: "Gravers"

John Dee <antitux@gmail.com> wrote:  I just finished watching UFC. Now I'm going to bed :)


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Subject: Re: [sfraves] wtf is going on tonight?

doc martin at the gingerbread

phil smart at BOCA breaks at BOCA

mixmaster mike @ mighty

prince paul at poleng lounge

On 8/26/06, CHUCK G <chuckg_421@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.
>


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DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
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August 12th:  Obsoleet
August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
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i had a track in that movie!  yippee for me.  Lol..

;)

CJ 

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Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 9:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove

ok you guys just made me want to see this movie again...
anyone have a copy of it on their computer, if so can you ftp me a
copy...pretty please...."GRooVE" not grill..lol..
xoxo
adriana

Danielle <takoburrito@gmail.com> wrote:
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Are you tastin' it?


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> At MEAT @ DNA they have the mixers and decks in a BBQ on stage.
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> They also grill up meat outside.  All the gogo dancers are covered and
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> Fun club.
>
>
> At 08:15 PM 8/26/2006, Peter Rothman wrote:
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> >Someone should do a spoof of the spoof where BBQ
> >grills are replaced with Grillz:
> >http://www.icedoutgear.com/grillz-gold-teeth.php
> >
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>
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tonight...
tocadisco  415-419-3556 
brain damage 415.267.6921
hyphycore 415-820-1569/415-972-2823  
 

CHUCK G <chuckg_421@yahoo.com> wrote: BSP, anyone?  



     
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I dyed my hair purple and baked cookies for burningman. Did you know
Sparky's delivers? Nothing better than bacon cheeseburgers & banana malts
delivered to your house at 3:30am. I fucking love this city.

~juju


On 8/26/06, adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> tonight...
> tocadisco  415-419-3556
> brain damage 415.267.6921
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>
>
> CHUCK G <chuckg_421@yahoo.com> wrote: BSP, anyone?
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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I remember one year when my wife, kids, and I all got dressed up on New Years Eve and had dinner at Sparky's.  

Yumm.

Peter

----- Original Message ----
From: Danielle <takoburrito@gmail.com>
To: adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com>
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I dyed my hair purple and baked cookies for burningman. Did you know
Sparky's delivers? Nothing better than bacon cheeseburgers & banana malts
delivered to your house at 3:30am. I fucking love this city.

~juju


On 8/26/06, adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> tonight...
> tocadisco  415-419-3556
> brain damage 415.267.6921
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>
>
> CHUCK G <chuckg_421@yahoo.com> wrote: BSP, anyone?
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small
> Business.
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>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove

I am glad to know I am not the only one htat still gets chills from it Stev=
e.

Peace,

Peter



----- Original Message ----
From: Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com>
To: Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 3:18:42 PM
Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove

Am I the only one that gets massive chills and practically comes to tears o=
f
joy watching Groove? I remember the first time I saw it I was watching it
with a few people VERY unfamiliar with this scene and I kept going "yeah it
is like that!, I can feel it!" and they kept saying, "wtf is wrong with you=
,
this movie is dumb". I guess I get too emotional from music. At the end whe=
n
Digweed plays heavenscent I jump up and start yelling and shit.


On 8/26/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> hahaha yeah let me know...we just need someone with a
> camera. i'm willing to carry a huge disco ball to the
> muni station lol the looks i would get would be
> priceless!!!
>
> -D.
>
> --- Osby Oi Oi Jamz <osby@viberation.com> wrote:
>
> > If y'all reeeeeeeally wanna do this... lol...
> > well... 1015 still owes me
> > hardcore & like I"m still tight w/ Andres & Marie,
> > the head club techs
> > there, & i can see if they'll let me pull a giant
> > disco ball outta the
> > glass room for a few hours.... but if granted the
> > permission to like mondo
> > do so... we gotta do it quick... I don't want Ira or
> > fuckin' Adam on my
> > ass for fucki'n around.. LoL.. actually.. ya know..
> > that'd be kinda fun to
> > get in an no no no... thinkin' out loud again..
> > LoL.. but yeah... lemme
> > ask Andres or Marie wheni see them next :)
> >
> > LOLOLOLMAO.. Hello 2Day... y'all too fuckin' much
> > man... Thanks :)
> >
> > Brandon or Katya... I need 1 of y'all to come w/ me
> > to the club one time
> > on like a Saturday afternoon... or if I"m in the
> > City on a weekday... i'll
> > go & see...
> > --
> > Take Care <3
> > Peace=3D->Jus' Me =3D-> O=C2=A7bY {8O)
> >
> >
> >
> > Philip Sternberg wrote:
> > > I principle, yes; the bitch would be getting all
> > the reflections in the
> > > disco ball to match up to the environment.  But
> > there are some very
> > > talented
> > > graphically inclined folks on this list, I'm sure
> > they'd be up to the
> > > challenge...
> > >
> > > On 8/25/06, Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> i only have a 10" disco ball.  but you could have
> > Osby pose with an
> > >> exercise ball and then photoshop in the disco
> > ball?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 8/25/06, Terry Estioko <terry@hyperreal.org>
> > wrote:
> > >> > By Grabthar's Hammer....this *must* be done.
> > >> >
> > >> > Who has the disco ball. No, really?!?
> > >> >
> > >> > -t
> > >> >
> > >> > On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Dragn'fly wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Holy shit!
> > >> > >
> > >> > > That would be
> > soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...........
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Perfect.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > From: Delia [mailto:velouria83@yahoo.com]
> > >> > > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:07 PM
> > >> > > To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; D D; SFR
> > >> > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove
> > >> > >
> > >> > > LOL perfect!!!! I've just always wanted to
> > take a picture of Osby on
> > >> the
> > >> > > Muni holding a huge discoball for a flyer lol
> > >> > >
> > >> > > -D.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --- dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> Heh, I have a Hoberman sphere I can bring ;)
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> (Don't know what a Hoberman sphere is?  Its
> > that expando toy the
> > >> guy
> > >> > >> plays with at the end.  See
> > >> > >> http://hoberman.com/fold/Sphere/sphere.htm)
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Regards,
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Peter
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----
> > >> > >> From: Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
> > >> > >> To: D D <technicak47@yahoo.com>; SFR
> > >> > >> <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> > >> > >> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 12:19:33 AM
> > >> > >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> i <3 groove... i think we all need to get
> > together for a movie
> > >> night
> > >> > >> and watch it! haha fuckin plur bitches
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> -D.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> --- D D <technicak47@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>> watched that shit like 2 times today. good
> > fucking movie
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> ---------------------------------
> > >> > >>> Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st
> > yr.
> > >> > >>> We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot
> > and packing my
> > >> bongloads!
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> aim=3D junglegurlee510
> > >> > >> yahoo=3D velouria83
> > >> > >> google talk=3D mskittiecat@gmail.com
> > >> > >> MSN @ WORK =3D velouria83@yahoo.com
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> > >> < Brandon / DJ Bam >
> > >>
> > >> DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
> > >> http://www.evilbreaks.com
> > >>
> > >> August 12th:  Obsoleet
> > >> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
> > >> August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
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Britannia rules the raves again 

Partying like it's 1989? These days, as rave veteran Sarah Champion discovers, the kids are as young as 12, the drug is laughing gas, the venues are forest glades and the music is harder and faster. One thing hasn't changed, though - trying to keep one step ahead of the police

Observer blog: Rafael Behr gets misty eyed and nostalgic. Share your eighties memories with him <http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/observer/archives/2006/08/26/bang_bang_squel.html#more>here


Sunday August 27, 2006
<http://www.observer.co.uk>The Observer 

Is this it? We pass a Little Chef and turn off the A road into a shadowy lay-by. It's the second to last Saturday in August, yet as dark as November with a steady drizzle. Our beams illuminate a chain of parked cars. One flashes in welcome, as if to say, 'Yes, you're here.' We take a slot near the rear of the convoy. A figure in a rain jacket moves along the line, urgently barking: 'The police have blocked the road, we've got to go now.' A 100 or so shapes emerge from steamed-up vehicles, bass blasting from each. The buzz is infectious, everyone primed for action.

This is the culmination of a day's frantic texting and posting on internet forums. I had to find out for myself whether there was any truth behind the headlines declaring a rave revival this summer. Their eyes on the drinking mayhem in our cities, the police appear to have been caught off guard in the past three months by a series of well-organised raves that arrived out of nowhere. In May Cornwall police broke up a party of 2,000 in Davidstow, seizing £3,000 in cash, drugs worth £40,000 and 12 lorries loaded with sound equipment. More raves followed. Was this another summer of love? Or a bunch of old clubbers who never went away, joined by bumper crowds due to July's heat wave? As a veteran of the 80s scene - both as a clubber and dance music journalist - I was curious.

<http://arts.guardian.co.uk/features/story/0,,1859099,00.html#article_continue>Article continues
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</font><font face="arial" size=3>Partying like it's 1989? These days, as
rave veteran Sarah Champion discovers, the kids are as young as 12, the
drug is laughing gas, the venues are forest glades and the music is
harder and faster. One thing hasn't changed, though - trying to keep one
step ahead of the police<br><br>
Observer blog: Rafael Behr gets misty eyed and nostalgic. Share your
eighties memories with him
<a href="http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/observer/archives/2006/08/26/bang_bang_squel.html#more">
here</a><br><br>
<br>
</font><font size=2><b>Sunday August 27, 2006<br>
<a href="http://www.observer.co.uk">The Observer</a></b> <br><br>
</font><font size=3>Is this it? We pass a Little Chef and turn off the A
road into a shadowy lay-by. It's the second to last Saturday in August,
yet as dark as November with a steady drizzle. Our beams illuminate a
chain of parked cars. One flashes in welcome, as if to say, 'Yes, you're
here.' We take a slot near the rear of the convoy. A figure in a rain
jacket moves along the line, urgently barking: 'The police have blocked
the road, we've got to go now.' A 100 or so shapes emerge from steamed-up
vehicles, bass blasting from each. The buzz is infectious, everyone
primed for action.<br><br>
This is the culmination of a day's frantic texting and posting on
internet forums. I had to find out for myself whether there was any truth
behind the headlines declaring a rave revival this summer. Their eyes on
the drinking mayhem in our cities, the police appear to have been caught
off guard in the past three months by a series of well-organised raves
that arrived out of nowhere. In May Cornwall police broke up a party of
2,000 in Davidstow, seizing £3,000 in cash, drugs worth £40,000 and 12
lorries loaded with sound equipment. More raves followed. Was this
another summer of love? Or a bunch of old clubbers who never went away,
joined by bumper crowds due to July's heat wave? As a veteran of the 80s
scene - both as a clubber and dance music journalist - I was
curious.<br><br>
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Tribenet:&nbsp;&nbsp;
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</a></u></font><font size=3>&quot;Americans like to talk about (or be
told about) Democracy but, when put to the test, usually find it to be an
'inconvenience.' We have opted instead for an authoritarian system
disguised as a Democracy. We pay through the nose for an enormous
joke-of-a-government, let it push us around, and then wonder how all
those assholes got in there.&quot; - Frank Zappa <br><br>
&quot;Music is prophecy, its style and economic organization are ahead of
the rest of society. It makes audible the new world that will gradually
become visible.&quot;<br>
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sounds more like a comeback than a ruling.  those brits are some sore=
 losers.


sarilion

At 01:19 PM 8/27/2006, you wrote:
>Britannia rules the raves again
>
>Partying like it's 1989? These days, as rave=20
>veteran Sarah Champion discovers, the kids are=20
>as young as 12, the drug is laughing gas, the=20
>venues are forest glades and the music is harder=20
>and faster. One thing hasn't changed, though -=20
>trying to keep one step ahead of the police
>
>Observer blog: Rafael Behr gets misty eyed and=20
>nostalgic. Share your eighties memories with him=20
><http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/observer/archives/2006/08/26/bang_bang_squel.h=
tml#more>here
>
>
>Sunday August 27, 2006
><http://www.observer.co.uk>The Observer
>
>Is this it? We pass a Little Chef and turn off=20
>the A road into a shadowy lay-by. It's the=20
>second to last Saturday in August, yet as dark=20
>as November with a steady drizzle. Our beams=20
>illuminate a chain of parked cars. One flashes=20
>in welcome, as if to say, 'Yes, you're here.' We=20
>take a slot near the rear of the convoy. A=20
>figure in a rain jacket moves along the line,=20
>urgently barking: 'The police have blocked the=20
>road, we've got to go now.' A 100 or so shapes=20
>emerge from steamed-up vehicles, bass blasting=20
>from each. The buzz is infectious, everyone primed for action.
>
>This is the culmination of a day's frantic=20
>texting and posting on internet forums. I had to=20
>find out for myself whether there was any truth=20
>behind the headlines declaring a rave revival=20
>this summer. Their eyes on the drinking mayhem=20
>in our cities, the police appear to have been=20
>caught off guard in the past three months by a=20
>series of well-organised raves that arrived out=20
>of nowhere. In May Cornwall police broke up a=20
>party of 2,000 in Davidstow, seizing =A33,000 in=20
>cash, drugs worth =A340,000 and 12 lorries loaded=20
>with sound equipment. More raves followed. Was=20
>this another summer of love? Or a bunch of old=20
>clubbers who never went away, joined by bumper=20
>crowds due to July's heat wave? As a veteran of=20
>the 80s scene - both as a clubber and dance music journalist - I was=
 curious.
>
><http://arts.guardian.co.uk/features/story/0,,1859099,00.html#article_conti=
nue>Article=20
>continues
>[]
>
>
>http://arts.guardian.co.uk/features/story/0,,1859099,00.html#article_contin=
ue
>
>
>MySpace:  http://www.myspace.com/DJApollo
>
>Tribenet:=20
><http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k>http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k
>
>House Music 101:  http://livingart.com/raving/articles/housemusic101.htm
>
>"Americans like to talk about (or be told about)=20
>Democracy but, when put to the test, usually=20
>find it to be an 'inconvenience.' We have opted=20
>instead for an authoritarian system disguised as=20
>a Democracy. We pay through the nose for an=20
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200 riot police break up illegal rave 

· One officer suffers severed finger, eight more injured 
· Patrol car set on fire as CS gas used to disperse 1,000 

Paul Lewis
Monday August 28, 2006
<http://www.guardian.co.uk>The Guardian 

Two hundred riot police from five counties used CS gas, dogs and batons to disperse 1,000 ravers at an illegal party in Essex on Saturday night. Riots broke out in a corn field next to the village of Ickleton, near Saffron Walden, as partygoers clashed with police in scenes reminiscent of the zenith of the free party movement in the late 1980s. 

The violence, which flared up sporadically until early yesterday, was sparked when a small delegation of officers tried to negotiate the break-up of the party but met "unprecedented and ferocious" resistance, police said. A police car was set on fire and nine officers were wounded during the clashes, with injuries to police including a suspected broken collarbone and a severed finger. At least two revellers were also injured. 

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gas, dogs and batons to disperse 1,000 ravers at an illegal party in
Essex on Saturday night. Riots broke out in a corn field next to the
village of Ickleton, near Saffron Walden, as partygoers clashed with
police in scenes reminiscent of the zenith of the free party movement in
the late 1980s. <br><br>
The violence, which flared up sporadically until early yesterday, was
sparked when a small delegation of officers tried to negotiate the
break-up of the party but met &quot;unprecedented and ferocious&quot;
resistance, police said. A police car was set on fire and nine officers
were wounded during the clashes, with injuries to police including a
suspected broken collarbone and a severed finger. At least two revellers
were also injured. <br><br>
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joke-of-a-government, let it push us around, and then wonder how all
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Subject: [sfraves] WR: My Hella Funny Flip Friday Night...

So like my 1st Cousin from Australlia, Mitchie,  was here like since last
Wed night to Sat night... Hello 2day

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l188/YummyBeats/Mitchie-s%20Visit%20August%202006-%20Fam%20stuff/zebulon008.jpg

... like last time i saw her was like over ummmm... i dunno.. hella years
ago... last time she spent like 2 weeks here & I had a car & we went out
everywhere :)  This time... she went out 2 Days in a row w/ my Uncle, none
of us really got to spend time w/ her.. la la la... my Mom was even sad
that she didn't get to take her Shopping...

So anywaze.. Friday... my like ok.. see.. my mom has like this misplacing
her emotion bullshit thingie goin' on & she always misdirects her shit to
other people when she's feelin' like crap... so Friday she totally took it
out on me 'cause she was hurt that she well.. what i mentioned above... so
I dunno..i kinda got outta the house early & went to the City 'cause Mr
Paulie Paul (Flash) Gordon sent out a myspace BB that he was gonna be
spinning @ this food place/ bar thingie in SOMA on Natoma called
Zebulon... "interesting" i thought.. so yeah.. it's been 4ever since we
kicked it...

I got there & like as soon as i well.. OK.. 1st off... I saw like all
these mondo yuppies hangin' out there... like outside... so i was all like
ummm... OK... but i heard these Yummy deep house beats from inside.. so i
went in & looked around.... people eating this Froo Froo Shee Shee food...
well.. i peaked @ the menu b43 i walked inside & like other people havin'
drinks... ok... then i looked up @ the Balcony/ Loft Thingie & saw Paulie
all up there mixing... LOL.. Hello 2day.. & pointed @ him & smiled & he
pointed back & waved a record @ me.. LOL.. it was Dope...

So I like manuvered my way through the crowd.... this place was packed w/
people eating & drinking & the tables were so close together... next thing
i know.. i hear someone call my name & it ended up being my cousin
Angeline who i ain't seen in a few months (another 1st cousin) & we talked
for like hella minutes about Mitchie & stuff... it was Dope & unexpected
'cause YAAAY.. REUNION!! :)  But yeah man.. it was just funny as hell
bumping into her &* like seein her lil' social group of Homies & shit :)

So I made my way up to the loft thingie where Paulie was... we talked & I
met the promoter of the happy hour House thingie... lol... He's CooL..
Ummm.. let's call him Tom for now... Tom for now.. really nice guy...
actually.. originally from Sac then moved to the City to further his
career as a house DJ...  Sweet! :)  Then i met more people, all House
Heads & 1/2 of them from Sac too :)  So that was Dope!  Actually... i
found out that Zebulon was their Remedy preparty meet up... so yeah.. i
met 1 of the crews that hit up Remedy.. Lol... it was Wicked!  They are
all Groovy people! :)

So I'm down in the 1st floor of the Resturaunt/ Bar place... talkin' to
another one of the Remedy Preparty OG from Sac Chicas... let's call her
Fancis for now... she was tellin me that Zebulon is a Filipino owned
joint.. just then... 1 of the owners, Ed, came by & gave us like 2 cups of
ooh.. ummm.. this expensive wine.. forgot the name... then Francis for now
introduced me to Ed... so we talk & talk... ok.. now check this shit
out... 'cause i knew he looked familiar & i asked him what high school he
went to.. then I told him my cousin Mylee went to that school... & he liek
ok.. the whole time we're talkin', he had this like kinda perplexed look
on his face... so when i told him Mylee's last name was Pascual.. he
tripped out..

Turns out my cousin went to a different high school & he knew 'cause he
was married to her.. Heeeeeeeeello 2Daaaaaaay... so like yeah.. this Owner
Dude, Ed, is my cousin... so we talked about all the recent family parties
& if he went & i went & la la la la.. trippy shit man... I mean.. we ain't
seen each other in like man.. amost as long as i ain't seen Mitchie... so
yeah... this was heeeeeella trippy :)  So yeah.. i kinda milked the whole
"well I'm related to the owner" card & got free drinks the whole night :P 
I mean.. he let me.. so i did!!!  LOLOLMAO  But yeah.. for now... Zebulon
is primarily like a lunch/ dinner/ drinks place.... mainly opened during
happy hour wait...

http://www.zebulonsf.com/

but yeah... Ed's workin' on getting the proper liscences & permits to make
that place run longer then 10PM on the weekends & I told him I'll help him
w/ that & stuff since I still got that SFLNC knowledge in me still & know
a few people in City Hall in the City who could help things :)  So when
this becomes a legit venue y'all... u know what's gonna go down :P  Hello
2day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BUt it was a fun night... the music was Sick... Paulie's set was Yummy the
1st time.. he strait just went with this "Sexy" deep loungie house vibe...
then Tom for Now got on next & played some like alota Tribal & Proggy
House... Then Paulie got back on & played some like ok... Salsa, Basanova,
Sexy House, some really deep proggy Breaks.. I mean.. deep deep, & some
SExy House Covers of 80's songs :)

Oh yeah... in the morning.. like Mitchie woke me up @ 9AM for Breakfast
(Bless my Awesome Cousin)& by like 9PM..i was getting tired (add to that a
big ass mexican dinner that i didn't get @ Zebulon 'cause that was b4 the
Cousin connex & all the food there is no less than $7)... So i stayed 'til
like 10 then walked to bart...

OK.. here's where things get more interesting.. kinda... so i go walk up
to market & have to like cross the street... so i'm walkin' across the
cross walk & a cab seriosly like almost hits me.... like stopped @ the
point where it almost like tooked out my leg if he drove further... so I
hit the hood of his cab hard & flipped him off... then he said something
to me in like whatefer language.. then i said FUCK YOU hella loud!  right
then, when i got to the other corner.... someone yelled out "OSBY" in a
passing car... so i waved back hella laughing after that then went to
bart.

OK.. The End.. lol.. fun night :)

Oh

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Britannia rules the raves again

ahhhhhh... reading this article gives me chills. i'm
so happy the UK is coming back into the fray. i wish i
could be there to experience it.

-D.

--- Apollo <apollo@speakeasy.org> wrote:

> Britannia rules the raves again 
> 
> Partying like it's 1989? These days, as rave veteran
> Sarah Champion discovers, the kids are as young as
> 12, the drug is laughing gas, the venues are forest
> glades and the music is harder and faster. One thing
> hasn't changed, though - trying to keep one step
> ahead of the police
> 
> Observer blog: Rafael Behr gets misty eyed and
> nostalgic. Share your eighties memories with him
>
<http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/observer/archives/2006/08/26/bang_bang_squel.html#more>here
> 
> 
> Sunday August 27, 2006
> <http://www.observer.co.uk>The Observer 
> 
> Is this it? We pass a Little Chef and turn off the A
> road into a shadowy lay-by. It's the second to last
> Saturday in August, yet as dark as November with a
> steady drizzle. Our beams illuminate a chain of
> parked cars. One flashes in welcome, as if to say,
> 'Yes, you're here.' We take a slot near the rear of
> the convoy. A figure in a rain jacket moves along
> the line, urgently barking: 'The police have blocked
> the road, we've got to go now.' A 100 or so shapes
> emerge from steamed-up vehicles, bass blasting from
> each. The buzz is infectious, everyone primed for
> action.
> 
> This is the culmination of a day's frantic texting
> and posting on internet forums. I had to find out
> for myself whether there was any truth behind the
> headlines declaring a rave revival this summer.
> Their eyes on the drinking mayhem in our cities, the
> police appear to have been caught off guard in the
> past three months by a series of well-organised
> raves that arrived out of nowhere. In May Cornwall
> police broke up a party of 2,000 in Davidstow,
> seizing £3,000 in cash, drugs worth £40,000 and 12
> lorries loaded with sound equipment. More raves
> followed. Was this another summer of love? Or a
> bunch of old clubbers who never went away, joined by
> bumper crowds due to July's heat wave? As a veteran
> of the 80s scene - both as a clubber and dance music
> journalist - I was curious.
> 
>
<http://arts.guardian.co.uk/features/story/0,,1859099,00.html#article_continue>Article
> continues
> []
> 
> 
>
http://arts.guardian.co.uk/features/story/0,,1859099,00.html#article_continue
> 
> 
> 
> MySpace:  http://www.myspace.com/DJApollo 
> 
> Tribenet:  
>
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> 
>                 
> House Music 101: 
>
http://livingart.com/raving/articles/housemusic101.htm
> 
> "Americans like to talk about (or be told about)
> Democracy but, when put to the test, usually find it
> to be an 'inconvenience.' We have opted instead for
> an authoritarian system disguised as a Democracy. We
> pay through the nose for an enormous
> joke-of-a-government, let it push us around, and
> then wonder how all those assholes got in there." -
> Frank Zappa 
> 
> "Music is prophecy, its style and economic
> organization are ahead of the rest of society. It
> makes audible the new world that will gradually
> become visible."
> -Jacques Attali in his seminal text "Noise"  


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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove

Mmm.. meat...

http://anubismedia.net/images/LinkImages/dip082606/meatguildbbqbooth.jpg

>
> At MEAT @ DNA they have the mixers and decks in a BBQ on stage.
>
> They also grill up meat outside.  All the gogo dancers are covered and
> blood splatters.
>
> Fun club.
>
>
> At 08:15 PM 8/26/2006, Peter Rothman wrote:
>
>>Someone should do a spoof of the spoof where BBQ
>>grills are replaced with Grillz:
>>http://www.icedoutgear.com/grillz-gold-teeth.php
>>
>>Peter
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Meat is Murderlicious! Lets have a BBQ YEAH!!!!

<3
-D.

--- rayn@anubismedia.net wrote:

> Mmm.. meat...
> 
>
http://anubismedia.net/images/LinkImages/dip082606/meatguildbbqbooth.jpg
> 
> >
> > At MEAT @ DNA they have the mixers and decks in a
> BBQ on stage.
> >
> > They also grill up meat outside.  All the gogo
> dancers are covered and
> > blood splatters.
> >
> > Fun club.
> >
> >
> > At 08:15 PM 8/26/2006, Peter Rothman wrote:
> >
> >>Someone should do a spoof of the spoof where BBQ
> >>grills are replaced with Grillz:
> >>http://www.icedoutgear.com/grillz-gold-teeth.php
> >>
> >>Peter
> >
> >
> > Shatter
> >
> > shatter@sonic.net
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove

The grill isn't on!

I'm disappointed :(

Peter

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Mmm.. meat...

http://anubismedia.net/images/LinkImages/dip082606/meatguildbbqbooth.jpg

>
> At MEAT @ DNA they have the mixers and decks in a BBQ on stage.
>
> They also grill up meat outside.  All the gogo dancers are covered and
> blood splatters.
>
> Fun club.
>
>
> At 08:15 PM 8/26/2006, Peter Rothman wrote:
>
>>Someone should do a spoof of the spoof where BBQ
>>grills are replaced with Grillz:
>>http://www.icedoutgear.com/grillz-gold-teeth.php
>>
>>Peter
>
>
> Shatter
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Sunday, September 3

The 4th Annual celebration of hip-hop in tha Bay Area, DIITP once again boasts tha sickest DJ lineup anywhere -- including tha original La Raza Park selectors from tha FFAT era -- plus free BBQ, drinks, family fun (kids activities), dancing, and sunshine!! Its Triple Threat, Mr. E/Papalote and Local 1200's way of saying THANK YOU and WE LOVE YOU!!! Golden Gate Park / <http://djsake1.c.topica.com/maae6DKabsUJjb7EP2ceaehn6P/>Elk Glen Cove / 12 Noon til Sundown / FREE!!! / All Ages, All Good...


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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Britannia rules the raves again

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My friend used to live in the UK back in the early-mid 90's and he told me
about an awesome rave he went to inside a cemetery crypt. It got so hot
inside the sealed room that the walls were all wet from the sweat and steam=
.
Since it was in the crypt, you could not tell or hear anything from the
outside at all. Pure UG fun with no undesirables showing up.


On 8/28/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> ahhhhhh... reading this article gives me chills. i'm
> so happy the UK is coming back into the fray. i wish i
> could be there to experience it.
>
> -D.
>
> --- Apollo <apollo@speakeasy.org> wrote:
>
> > Britannia rules the raves again
> >
> > Partying like it's 1989? These days, as rave veteran
> > Sarah Champion discovers, the kids are as young as
> > 12, the drug is laughing gas, the venues are forest
> > glades and the music is harder and faster. One thing
> > hasn't changed, though - trying to keep one step
> > ahead of the police
> >
> > Observer blog: Rafael Behr gets misty eyed and
> > nostalgic. Share your eighties memories with him
> >
> <
> http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/observer/archives/2006/08/26/bang_bang_squel.=
html#more
> >here
> >
> >
> > Sunday August 27, 2006
> > <http://www.observer.co.uk>The Observer
> >
> > Is this it? We pass a Little Chef and turn off the A
> > road into a shadowy lay-by. It's the second to last
> > Saturday in August, yet as dark as November with a
> > steady drizzle. Our beams illuminate a chain of
> > parked cars. One flashes in welcome, as if to say,
> > 'Yes, you're here.' We take a slot near the rear of
> > the convoy. A figure in a rain jacket moves along
> > the line, urgently barking: 'The police have blocked
> > the road, we've got to go now.' A 100 or so shapes
> > emerge from steamed-up vehicles, bass blasting from
> > each. The buzz is infectious, everyone primed for
> > action.
> >
> > This is the culmination of a day's frantic texting
> > and posting on internet forums. I had to find out
> > for myself whether there was any truth behind the
> > headlines declaring a rave revival this summer.
> > Their eyes on the drinking mayhem in our cities, the
> > police appear to have been caught off guard in the
> > past three months by a series of well-organised
> > raves that arrived out of nowhere. In May Cornwall
> > police broke up a party of 2,000 in Davidstow,
> > seizing =A33,000 in cash, drugs worth =A340,000 and 12
> > lorries loaded with sound equipment. More raves
> > followed. Was this another summer of love? Or a
> > bunch of old clubbers who never went away, joined by
> > bumper crowds due to July's heat wave? As a veteran
> > of the 80s scene - both as a clubber and dance music
> > journalist - I was curious.
> >
> >
> <
> http://arts.guardian.co.uk/features/story/0,,1859099,00.html#article_cont=
inue
> >Article
> > continues
> > []
> >
> >
> >
>
> http://arts.guardian.co.uk/features/story/0,,1859099,00.html#article_cont=
inue
> >
> >
> >
> > MySpace:  http://www.myspace.com/DJApollo
> >
> > Tribenet:
> >
> <http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k>http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k
> >
> >
> > House Music 101:
> >
> http://livingart.com/raving/articles/housemusic101.htm
> >
> > "Americans like to talk about (or be told about)
> > Democracy but, when put to the test, usually find it
> > to be an 'inconvenience.' We have opted instead for
> > an authoritarian system disguised as a Democracy. We
> > pay through the nose for an enormous
> > joke-of-a-government, let it push us around, and
> > then wonder how all those assholes got in there." -
> > Frank Zappa
> >
> > "Music is prophecy, its style and economic
> > organization are ahead of the rest of society. It
> > makes audible the new world that will gradually
> > become visible."
> > -Jacques Attali in his seminal text "Noise"
>
>
> a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and packing my bongloads!
>
> aim=3D junglegurlee510
> yahoo=3D velouria83
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Subject: [sfraves] BSP: DIRTY w/ Chris Carter - Thurs, Sept 14 @ Mighty

DIRTY
Thursday, September 14th
Mighty (119 Utah st)
10pm-230am
21+ w/ID
$5 b4 11pm & $7 after


It's time for another rendition of Dirty, and this time Evil Breaks is
bringing back one of our favorite producers of all time to help us as
we try and raise some money for our Love Fest float. Besides the good
cause, this lineup is completely wicked, with a price and venue that
you just can't beat. This will also be one of Chris's last tours for a
while as his work visa is about to expire. 2 rooms of nasty is what
you can expect, with a great vibe and even better music.


Chris Carter (TCR/Rec. Records/Botchit & Scarper/Forged) - London, UK

Chris has established himself as a popular DJ and has toured all over
Europe as well as the USA, Asia and Australia. His mixes have been
aired on radio stations such as Radio1, Kiss, Ministry, Groovetech and
stations across Europe and the US.

Since starting to release his own productions in 1997, he has had a
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TCR, Botchit + Scarper, Forged, En:Vision, Secret Agent, Track,and his
own Record Records amongst others, earning him a reputation as a
master of well-crafted left-of-centre dancefloor tunes.

His remix work includes tracks for Forged, Botchit, Cup of Chi,
En:Vision, Passenger,and most recently as Roxiller on Sober,
Functional and Broke Records.


the Evil Breakers for the night:

Aaron Jae (Evil Breaks/XM Radio/AaronJae.com)
Bam (Evil Breaks/Invibe.com)
M.O.D. (Evil Breaks)


Super Duper guest dj's:

Syd Gris (Opel Productions/Opulent Temple)
Jeffrey Allen (LOST/Bambuddha Lounge/Proton Radio)
Jared (Deep End/In Deep)
Evinrude (Renegade Ferrets/Crooked)


Sign up for our mailing list to get your chance at free tickets to
this and all of our events.....
www.EvilBreaks.com
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August 12th:  Obsoleet
August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: DIRTY w/ Chris Carter - Thurs, Sept 14 @ Mighty

you need help for the party/float? holla  @ me.

-D.

--- Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:

> DIRTY
> Thursday, September 14th
> Mighty (119 Utah st)
> 10pm-230am
> 21+ w/ID
> $5 b4 11pm & $7 after
> 
> 
> It's time for another rendition of Dirty, and this
> time Evil Breaks is
> bringing back one of our favorite producers of all
> time to help us as
> we try and raise some money for our Love Fest float.
> Besides the good
> cause, this lineup is completely wicked, with a
> price and venue that
> you just can't beat. This will also be one of
> Chris's last tours for a
> while as his work visa is about to expire. 2 rooms
> of nasty is what
> you can expect, with a great vibe and even better
> music.
> 
> 
> Chris Carter (TCR/Rec. Records/Botchit &
> Scarper/Forged) - London, UK
> 
> Chris has established himself as a popular DJ and
> has toured all over
> Europe as well as the USA, Asia and Australia. His
> mixes have been
> aired on radio stations such as Radio1, Kiss,
> Ministry, Groovetech and
> stations across Europe and the US.
> 
> Since starting to release his own productions in
> 1997, he has had a
> steady stream of releases on a number UK based
> breaks labels including
> TCR, Botchit + Scarper, Forged, En:Vision, Secret
> Agent, Track,and his
> own Record Records amongst others, earning him a
> reputation as a
> master of well-crafted left-of-centre dancefloor
> tunes.
> 
> His remix work includes tracks for Forged, Botchit,
> Cup of Chi,
> En:Vision, Passenger,and most recently as Roxiller
> on Sober,
> Functional and Broke Records.
> 
> 
> the Evil Breakers for the night:
> 
> Aaron Jae (Evil Breaks/XM Radio/AaronJae.com)
> Bam (Evil Breaks/Invibe.com)
> M.O.D. (Evil Breaks)
> 
> 
> Super Duper guest dj's:
> 
> Syd Gris (Opel Productions/Opulent Temple)
> Jeffrey Allen (LOST/Bambuddha Lounge/Proton Radio)
> Jared (Deep End/In Deep)
> Evinrude (Renegade Ferrets/Crooked)
> 
> 
> Sign up for our mailing list to get your chance at
> free tickets to
> this and all of our events.....
> www.EvilBreaks.com
> -- 
> --------------------------
> < Brandon / DJ Bam >
> 
> DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
> http://www.evilbreaks.com
> 
> August 12th:  Obsoleet
> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: DIRTY w/ Chris Carter - Thurs, Sept 14 @ Mighty

Its also my birthday!

Peter

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From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
To: SFR <sfraves@hyperreal.org>; breakssf@topica.com
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 3:12:08 PM
Subject: [sfraves] BSP: DIRTY w/ Chris Carter - Thurs, Sept 14 @ Mighty

DIRTY
Thursday, September 14th
Mighty (119 Utah st)
10pm-230am
21+ w/ID
$5 b4 11pm & $7 after


It's time for another rendition of Dirty, and this time Evil Breaks is
bringing back one of our favorite producers of all time to help us as
we try and raise some money for our Love Fest float. Besides the good
cause, this lineup is completely wicked, with a price and venue that
you just can't beat. This will also be one of Chris's last tours for a
while as his work visa is about to expire. 2 rooms of nasty is what
you can expect, with a great vibe and even better music.


Chris Carter (TCR/Rec. Records/Botchit & Scarper/Forged) - London, UK

Chris has established himself as a popular DJ and has toured all over
Europe as well as the USA, Asia and Australia. His mixes have been
aired on radio stations such as Radio1, Kiss, Ministry, Groovetech and
stations across Europe and the US.

Since starting to release his own productions in 1997, he has had a
steady stream of releases on a number UK based breaks labels including
TCR, Botchit + Scarper, Forged, En:Vision, Secret Agent, Track,and his
own Record Records amongst others, earning him a reputation as a
master of well-crafted left-of-centre dancefloor tunes.

His remix work includes tracks for Forged, Botchit, Cup of Chi,
En:Vision, Passenger,and most recently as Roxiller on Sober,
Functional and Broke Records.


the Evil Breakers for the night:

Aaron Jae (Evil Breaks/XM Radio/AaronJae.com)
Bam (Evil Breaks/Invibe.com)
M.O.D. (Evil Breaks)


Super Duper guest dj's:

Syd Gris (Opel Productions/Opulent Temple)
Jeffrey Allen (LOST/Bambuddha Lounge/Proton Radio)
Jared (Deep End/In Deep)
Evinrude (Renegade Ferrets/Crooked)


Sign up for our mailing list to get your chance at free tickets to
this and all of our events.....
www.EvilBreaks.com
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< Brandon / DJ Bam >

DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
http://www.evilbreaks.com

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YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO DINA.

DON'T FUCK UP.

<3<3<3

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-&e->
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 tsheets@saturn5.com wrote:
-&e->I thought the 80's hair-band look is coming back BIG.
-&e->
-&e->Ironically drinking cheap beer may never go out of style (unfortuanatly...)
-&e->
-&e->Streight guys wearing woman's jeans is probalby well over.
-&e->
-&e->But yeah, isn't San Francisco weird?  How you can identify someone at a club
-&e->from either being from the North side (Marina/pac heights) or the South
-&e->Side (mission/haight) in about a second?
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-&e->-troy

a) 80s hair bands sucked when it was the 80s.  more so now.  you have no 
idea how much it pained me to have a guy who always dressed better than 
me, a brilliant producer, etc, show up one night with a mullet.  that 
said, I need a haircut at some point... bad hair + pink guitar... I'm 
cruisin for a bruisin.  i should write a song called 'the real 
america is in rockies' and make some money off Coors.  maybe they'll pay 
off my K car.  just kidding, no way could a K car still be running 
nowdays.

b) cheap beer has a price that is greater than any savings.  I can get 
looped on Stella Artois and I wake up dehydrated.  if I do the same with 
Miller, I feel like I was poorly treated and at the mercy of a vengeful 
god who shoots hangoverbolts from his sour malty fingers.

c) it's ok for a guy to wear women's jeans.  if it was an honest mistake.  
like, woke up after some freaky deaky, and just grabbed the wrong pants 
and somehow managed to get into them.  It's like a badge of honor.

d) i don't care where someone lives, but damn I meet some annoying people 
when I go out sometimes.  that said I've actually met some cool people 
lately.

e) Troy, I love ya man, but get your processes in check.  hint... go to 
our beloved home server and run 'top'.  you're so #1, #2, and #3 right 
now.  time to kill -clickclick9mmfullclip that crazy renegade process 
bidnis *pew*pew*pew*.

&eUU

p.s.	george, I would vote for pedro, he was cool.

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Rave reviews of bygone youth

SUSAN MANSFIELD 



MATT STOKES: PILLS TO PURGE MELANCHOLY ****

COLLECTIVE GALLERY, EDINBURGH 


THE papers are proclaiming the return of the rave. Young people are once again holding illicit outdoor dance parties, keeping one step ahead of the law. This brings an extra layer of resonance to the work of Beck's Futures winner Matt Stokes, whose vast ongoing project Real Arcadia remembers the first rave era, in particular a series of cave raves which took place in the Lake District on the cusp of the 1990s. 

Real Arcadia audibly spills out of the main room at Edinburgh's Collective Gallery in this, Stokes' first solo show. There are museum-like glass cases full of ephemera - flyers, membership cards, cassette tapes, newspaper cuttings. There are snapshots from the time enlarged and framed, and a set of speakers (part of an exact replica of the cave sound system) pounding out beats by DJ Grogg. 

There is a powerful sense of youthful idealism in the handwritten flyers, the designs on the cassette sleeves individually coloured-in by the DJs, the promise of "robot lightning" and "terror strobes". All this dedication contrasts with the self-righteousness of the locals quoted in the newspapers, claiming that the "safety of the party-goers" was their first priority when they were probably more worried about getting their flowerbeds trampled on. It's a classic generation gap of youthful rebels versus middle-aged establishment, and in that sense it is timeless. 

In another sense it's sharply rooted in time, a time which seems distant, despite being only a few years ago. There's a snapshot of a raver wearing a home-designed "Rave in the Cave" T-shirt just like the one in the display case next to it, faded and stained with age. He can't have been more than 19. Where is he now? A respectable thirtysomething with kids and a job? Or one of the rave generation who succumbed to drug abuse and never resurfaced? 

http://living.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1270842006


There are no other possible outcomes but middle-class life or total dissolution?  :-)




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House Music 101:  http://livingart.com/raving/articles/housemusic101.htm

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At 07:26 PM 8/28/2006, AndyW wrote:

>On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 tsheets@saturn5.com wrote:
>-&e->I thought the 80's hair-band look is coming back BIG.
>-&e->
>-&e->Ironically drinking cheap beer may never go out of style 
>(unfortuanatly...)
>-&e->
>-&e->Streight guys wearing woman's jeans is probalby well over.
>-&e->
>-&e->But yeah, isn't San Francisco weird?  How you can identify 
>someone at a club
>-&e->from either being from the North side (Marina/pac heights) or the South
>-&e->Side (mission/haight) in about a second?
>-&e->
>-&e->-troy
>
>a) 80s hair bands sucked when it was the 80s.  more so now.  you have no
>idea how much it pained me to have a guy who always dressed better than
>me, a brilliant producer, etc, show up one night with a mullet.  that
>said, I need a haircut at some point... bad hair + pink guitar... I'm
>cruisin for a bruisin.  i should write a song called 'the real
>america is in rockies' and make some money off Coors.  maybe they'll pay
>off my K car.  just kidding, no way could a K car still be running
>nowdays.

Guns N Roses announced they would go on tour again.  Their BA shows 
sold out in less than 2 hours... and they're months away.  I was 
tired of that shit in HS, I dunno why anyone wants to relive it.


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YAAAAY!!!  & that's my bday weekend!!! :)  Let's all have fun!!! :) 
Candyfly anything u need me for Hon.. i'm here  :)
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> am
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> -&e->
> -&e->Anyone know of anything else being planned already on that date? At
> least on
> -&e->the ug/warehouse tip?
> -&e->
> -&e->If I ain't steppin on anyone's toes... Then I'm gonna go for it, but
> I'd
> -&e->love ot hear from you first so hit me back asap if you know of
> someone's
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Candyfly? Is that like candyflipping?

Is OW planning on doing anything that weekend like they usually do?

- Buzz

On 8/28/06, Osby Oi Oi Jamz <osby@viberation.com> wrote:
> YAAAAY!!!  & that's my bday weekend!!! :)  Let's all have fun!!! :)
> Candyfly anything u need me for Hon.. i'm here  :)
> --
> Take Care <3
> Peace=3D->Jus' Me =3D-> O=A7bY {8O)
>
>
>
> AndyW wrote:
> >
> > YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO DINA.
> >
> > DON'T FUCK UP.
> >
> > <3<3<3
> >
> > andyw - mutorsoundsystem - saturn5.com/andy
> > \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\=
/\/
> > "Nothing real can defeat us.  Nothing unreal exists." - Buckaroo Banzai
> >
> > On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Dragn'fly wrote:
> >
> > -&e->
> > -&e->Say wha?
> > -&e->
> > -&e->Yeah... It's something I've always wanted to do but circumstances
> > never fell
> > -&e->into place.  Well it seems as though the tides have changed so her=
e I
> > am
> > -&e->seeking info from you guys to guide me in this venture...
> > -&e->
> > -&e->Basically...
> > -&e->
> > -&e->The date I have available is Oct 28 - Saturday.
> > -&e->
> > -&e->Anyone know of anything else being planned already on that date? A=
t
> > least on
> > -&e->the ug/warehouse tip?
> > -&e->
> > -&e->If I ain't steppin on anyone's toes... Then I'm gonna go for it, b=
ut
> > I'd
> > -&e->love ot hear from you first so hit me back asap if you know of
> > someone's
> > -&e->toes already sticking out there...
> > -&e->
> > -&e->; )
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Wow.. lol.. Hello 2day.. that's kinda CooL man :)  That last line in the
article... hmmmm... media speculation though... huh?
-- 
Take Care <3
Peace=->Jus' Me =-> O§bY {8O)



Apollo wrote:
>
>
> Rave reviews of bygone youth
>
> SUSAN MANSFIELD
>
>
>
> MATT STOKES: PILLS TO PURGE MELANCHOLY ****
>
> COLLECTIVE GALLERY, EDINBURGH
>
>
> THE papers are proclaiming the return of the rave. Young people are once
> again holding illicit outdoor dance parties, keeping one step ahead of the
> law. This brings an extra layer of resonance to the work of Beck's Futures
> winner Matt Stokes, whose vast ongoing project Real Arcadia remembers the
> first rave era, in particular a series of cave raves which took place in
> the Lake District on the cusp of the 1990s.
>
> Real Arcadia audibly spills out of the main room at Edinburgh's Collective
> Gallery in this, Stokes' first solo show. There are museum-like glass
> cases full of ephemera - flyers, membership cards, cassette tapes,
> newspaper cuttings. There are snapshots from the time enlarged and framed,
> and a set of speakers (part of an exact replica of the cave sound system)
> pounding out beats by DJ Grogg.
>
> There is a powerful sense of youthful idealism in the handwritten flyers,
> the designs on the cassette sleeves individually coloured-in by the DJs,
> the promise of "robot lightning" and "terror strobes". All this dedication
> contrasts with the self-righteousness of the locals quoted in the
> newspapers, claiming that the "safety of the party-goers" was their first
> priority when they were probably more worried about getting their
> flowerbeds trampled on. It's a classic generation gap of youthful rebels
> versus middle-aged establishment, and in that sense it is timeless.
>
> In another sense it's sharply rooted in time, a time which seems distant,
> despite being only a few years ago. There's a snapshot of a raver wearing
> a home-designed "Rave in the Cave" T-shirt just like the one in the
> display case next to it, faded and stained with age. He can't have been
> more than 19. Where is he now? A respectable thirtysomething with kids and
> a job? Or one of the rave generation who succumbed to drug abuse and never
> resurfaced?
>
> http://living.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1270842006
>
>
> There are no other possible outcomes but middle-class life or total
> dissolution?  :-)
>
>
>
>
> MySpace:  http://www.myspace.com/DJApollo
>
> Tribenet:
> <http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k>http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k
>
> House Music 101:  http://livingart.com/raving/articles/housemusic101.htm
>
> "Americans like to talk about (or be told about) Democracy but, when put
> to the test, usually find it to be an 'inconvenience.' We have opted
> instead for an authoritarian system disguised as a Democracy. We pay
> through the nose for an enormous joke-of-a-government, let it push us
> around, and then wonder how all those assholes got in there." - Frank
> Zappa
>
> "Music is prophecy, its style and economic organization are ahead of the
> rest of society. It makes audible the new world that will gradually become
> visible."
> -Jacques Attali in his seminal text "Noise"


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oh shit thats right....
OW always has a massive dope groovee halloween party...

anyone know???????if it's happening this year...

Nic Werner <nicwerner@gmail.com> wrote: Candyfly? Is that like candyflipping?

Is OW planning on doing anything that weekend like they usually do?

- Buzz

On 8/28/06, Osby Oi Oi Jamz  wrote:
> YAAAAY!!!  & that's my bday weekend!!! :)  Let's all have fun!!! :)
> Candyfly anything u need me for Hon.. i'm here  :)
> --
> Take Care <3
> Peace=->Jus' Me =-> O§bY {8O)
>
>
>
> AndyW wrote:
> >
> > YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO DINA.
> >
> > DON'T FUCK UP.
> >
> > <3<3<3
> >
> > andyw - mutorsoundsystem - saturn5.com/andy
> > \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
> > "Nothing real can defeat us.  Nothing unreal exists." - Buckaroo Banzai
> >
> > On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Dragn'fly wrote:
> >
> > -&e->
> > -&e->Say wha?
> > -&e->
> > -&e->Yeah... It's something I've always wanted to do but circumstances
> > never fell
> > -&e->into place.  Well it seems as though the tides have changed so here I
> > am
> > -&e->seeking info from you guys to guide me in this venture...
> > -&e->
> > -&e->Basically...
> > -&e->
> > -&e->The date I have available is Oct 28 - Saturday.
> > -&e->
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> > least on
> > -&e->the ug/warehouse tip?
> > -&e->
> > -&e->If I ain't steppin on anyone's toes... Then I'm gonna go for it, but
> > I'd
> > -&e->love ot hear from you first so hit me back asap if you know of
> > someone's
> > -&e->toes already sticking out there...
> > -&e->
> > -&e->; )
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Osby, You're bringing sexy back. Hot, does she party as hard as you?


On 8/28/06, Osby Oi Oi Jamz <osby@viberation.com> wrote:
>
> So like my 1st Cousin from Australlia, Mitchie,  was here like since last
> Wed night to Sat night... Hello 2day
>
>
> http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l188/YummyBeats/Mitchie-s%20Visit%20Aug=
ust%202006-%20Fam%20stuff/zebulon008.jpg
>
> ... like last time i saw her was like over ummmm... i dunno.. hella years
> ago... last time she spent like 2 weeks here & I had a car & we went out
> everywhere :)  This time... she went out 2 Days in a row w/ my Uncle, non=
e
> of us really got to spend time w/ her.. la la la... my Mom was even sad
> that she didn't get to take her Shopping...
>
> So anywaze.. Friday... my like ok.. see.. my mom has like this misplacing
> her emotion bullshit thingie goin' on & she always misdirects her shit to
> other people when she's feelin' like crap... so Friday she totally took i=
t
> out on me 'cause she was hurt that she well.. what i mentioned above... s=
o
> I dunno..i kinda got outta the house early & went to the City 'cause Mr
> Paulie Paul (Flash) Gordon sent out a myspace BB that he was gonna be
> spinning @ this food place/ bar thingie in SOMA on Natoma called
> Zebulon... "interesting" i thought.. so yeah.. it's been 4ever since we
> kicked it...
>
> I got there & like as soon as i well.. OK.. 1st off... I saw like all
> these mondo yuppies hangin' out there... like outside... so i was all lik=
e
> ummm... OK... but i heard these Yummy deep house beats from inside.. so i
> went in & looked around.... people eating this Froo Froo Shee Shee food..=
.
> well.. i peaked @ the menu b43 i walked inside & like other people havin'
> drinks... ok... then i looked up @ the Balcony/ Loft Thingie & saw Paulie
> all up there mixing... LOL.. Hello 2day.. & pointed @ him & smiled & he
> pointed back & waved a record @ me.. LOL.. it was Dope...
>
> So I like manuvered my way through the crowd.... this place was packed w/
> people eating & drinking & the tables were so close together... next thin=
g
> i know.. i hear someone call my name & it ended up being my cousin
> Angeline who i ain't seen in a few months (another 1st cousin) & we talke=
d
> for like hella minutes about Mitchie & stuff... it was Dope & unexpected
> 'cause YAAAY.. REUNION!! :)  But yeah man.. it was just funny as hell
> bumping into her &* like seein her lil' social group of Homies & shit :)
>
> So I made my way up to the loft thingie where Paulie was... we talked & I
> met the promoter of the happy hour House thingie... lol... He's CooL..
> Ummm.. let's call him Tom for now... Tom for now.. really nice guy...
> actually.. originally from Sac then moved to the City to further his
> career as a house DJ...  Sweet! :)  Then i met more people, all House
> Heads & 1/2 of them from Sac too :)  So that was Dope!  Actually... i
> found out that Zebulon was their Remedy preparty meet up... so yeah.. i
> met 1 of the crews that hit up Remedy.. Lol... it was Wicked!  They are
> all Groovy people! :)
>
> So I'm down in the 1st floor of the Resturaunt/ Bar place... talkin' to
> another one of the Remedy Preparty OG from Sac Chicas... let's call her
> Fancis for now... she was tellin me that Zebulon is a Filipino owned
> joint.. just then... 1 of the owners, Ed, came by & gave us like 2 cups o=
f
> ooh.. ummm.. this expensive wine.. forgot the name... then Francis for no=
w
> introduced me to Ed... so we talk & talk... ok.. now check this shit
> out... 'cause i knew he looked familiar & i asked him what high school he
> went to.. then I told him my cousin Mylee went to that school... & he lie=
k
> ok.. the whole time we're talkin', he had this like kinda perplexed look
> on his face... so when i told him Mylee's last name was Pascual.. he
> tripped out..
>
> Turns out my cousin went to a different high school & he knew 'cause he
> was married to her.. Heeeeeeeeello 2Daaaaaaay... so like yeah.. this Owne=
r
> Dude, Ed, is my cousin... so we talked about all the recent family partie=
s
> & if he went & i went & la la la la.. trippy shit man... I mean.. we ain'=
t
> seen each other in like man.. amost as long as i ain't seen Mitchie... so
> yeah... this was heeeeeella trippy :)  So yeah.. i kinda milked the whole
> "well I'm related to the owner" card & got free drinks the whole night :P
> I mean.. he let me.. so i did!!!  LOLOLMAO  But yeah.. for now... Zebulon
> is primarily like a lunch/ dinner/ drinks place.... mainly opened during
> happy hour wait...
>
> http://www.zebulonsf.com/
>
> but yeah... Ed's workin' on getting the proper liscences & permits to mak=
e
> that place run longer then 10PM on the weekends & I told him I'll help hi=
m
> w/ that & stuff since I still got that SFLNC knowledge in me still & know
> a few people in City Hall in the City who could help things :)  So when
> this becomes a legit venue y'all... u know what's gonna go down :P  Hello
> 2day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> BUt it was a fun night... the music was Sick... Paulie's set was Yummy th=
e
> 1st time.. he strait just went with this "Sexy" deep loungie house vibe..=
.
> then Tom for Now got on next & played some like alota Tribal & Proggy
> House... Then Paulie got back on & played some like ok... Salsa, Basanova=
,
> Sexy House, some really deep proggy Breaks.. I mean.. deep deep, & some
> SExy House Covers of 80's songs :)
>
> Oh yeah... in the morning.. like Mitchie woke me up @ 9AM for Breakfast
> (Bless my Awesome Cousin)& by like 9PM..i was getting tired (add to that =
a
> big ass mexican dinner that i didn't get @ Zebulon 'cause that was b4 the
> Cousin connex & all the food there is no less than $7)... So i stayed 'ti=
l
> like 10 then walked to bart...
>
> OK.. here's where things get more interesting.. kinda... so i go walk up
> to market & have to like cross the street... so i'm walkin' across the
> cross walk & a cab seriosly like almost hits me.... like stopped @ the
> point where it almost like tooked out my leg if he drove further... so I
> hit the hood of his cab hard & flipped him off... then he said something
> to me in like whatefer language.. then i said FUCK YOU hella loud!  right
> then, when i got to the other corner.... someone yelled out "OSBY" in a
> passing car... so i waved back hella laughing after that then went to
> bart.
>
> OK.. The End.. lol.. fun night :)
>
> Oh
>
> http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l188/YummyBeats/ZEBULON%208-25-2006/
> --
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> Peace=3D->Jus' Me =3D-> O=A7bY {8O)
>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Dragnfly THROWING a Halloween UG?

If OW is planning anything, you'll hear it from me 1st - I promise!

~Marc(O)




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>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] Dragnfly THROWING a Halloween UG?
>Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:34:56 -0700
>
>Candyfly? Is that like candyflipping?
>
>Is OW planning on doing anything that weekend like they usually do?
>
>- Buzz
>
>On 8/28/06, Osby Oi Oi Jamz <osby@viberation.com> wrote:
>>YAAAAY!!!  & that's my bday weekend!!! :)  Let's all have fun!!! :)
>>Candyfly anything u need me for Hon.. i'm here  :)
>>--
>>Take Care <3
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Thanks Apollo,

I'm doing better now. I started my new job and think I'm done with the
Prozac Withdrawal and flu. For awhile there things seemed darker then I had
ever felt before. I promise I didn't send that e-mail to the list looking
for attention, I was intending it to be more of a "what's up with Steve"
type of thing so people would understand why I had been so silent for the
last few months.

I really appreciate all the kind words and e-mails.

I love all my friends on SFR.

On 8/23/06, Apollo <apollo@speakeasy.org> wrote:
>
> At 04:04 PM 8/23/2006, Steve Osteen wrote:
>
>
> >Prozac sucks ass, I never knew how crappy the withdrawal would be. The
> 5-HTP
> >doesn't seem to help, if anything just amplify my emotions. I am five
> blocks
> >away from returning to dxm after being sober for the last year and a half
> >sitting here with pinkeye in both eyes, a fever, soar throat, and lack of
> >will to live. Being dissociated would be a lovely way to die,
> >
> >
> >
> >but not today.
> >
>
> Many of us are having very, very bad experiences these days.  Steve could
> use some care and love I see from the above.  He is in my thoughts
> lately.....
>
>
> MySpace:  http://www.myspace.com/DJApollo
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> Tribenet:   <http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k>
> http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k
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> House Music 101:  http://livingart.com/raving/articles/housemusic101.htm
>
> "Americans like to talk about (or be told about) Democracy but, when put
> to the test, usually find it to be an 'inconvenience.' We have opted instead
> for an authoritarian system disguised as a Democracy. We pay through the
> nose for an enormous joke-of-a-government, let it push us around, and then
> wonder how all those assholes got in there." - Frank Zappa
>
> "Music is prophecy, its style and economic organization are ahead of the
> rest of society. It makes audible the new world that will gradually become
> visible."
> -Jacques Attali in his seminal text "Noise"
>



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Hi,

I have a problem. I watched a Tiesto liveset on winamp. It was called DJ
Tiesto @ Homelands, Matterley. I don't know if this is right or not but that
set was amazing. Can anybody help me in getting the tracks. Also, can anyone
tell me which is the best place in the bay area to buy DVD sets for live
trance concerts.

Any help in this regard will be greatly appreciated.

Regards

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Tiesto live sets

i'd ask that question on a trance specifc forum like:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/site_news.shtml

and for DVDs, i'd check Reverb on Haight or Skills on Telegraph in Berkeley.


ps.  i'm responding before the haterzzz!


On 8/29/06, Raj Khattoi <aristotle1980@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a problem. I watched a Tiesto liveset on winamp. It was called DJ
> Tiesto @ Homelands, Matterley. I don't know if this is right or not but that
> set was amazing. Can anybody help me in getting the tracks. Also, can anyone
> tell me which is the best place in the bay area to buy DVD sets for live
> trance concerts.
>
> Any help in this regard will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards
>
>


-- 
--------------------------
< Brandon / DJ Bam >

DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
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August 12th:  Obsoleet
August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's

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Subject: [sfraves] Solid Goldiggers Burlesque

Not my usual party post but a performance sure to be memorable!
Come get your spoken word fix and watch us dance....

Sex, Drugs, and Rock-n-Roll
A Night of Tits & Lit

Burlesque dancers and the best authors of transgressive literature
come together for a night of Sex, Drugs, and Rock-n-Roll.

September 9, 2006
Shotwell Studios  3252A 19th Street @ Shotwell
San Francisco
Doors 9:45PM Show 10:15PM
$3 - $5


FEATURE PERFORMERS:

Raina Bird, Tina Butcher, Tony DuShane, Lilycat, Carmelo Valone
& the Solid Golddiggers Burlesque Dancers

For more information contact: rainabird@hotmail.com
415-847-4026

BIOS:


Raina Bird was born in a cult run by a fat bald guy with 9 wives who
said he was the living incarnation of the divine. She now hates
hippies and religion with equal fervor. She is currently writing a
memoir about the experience. Her work has appeared in Morbid
Curiosity, Instant City and cherrybleeds. She is heavily tattooed,
very fond of her pet rat and leaves her house as little as possible

Tina Butcher - AKA Madison Young is a San Francisco based writer,
artist, and international bondage model. Tina's writing has been
published in such magazines as Girlfriends, On Our Backs, Bitch,
Herbivore, Skin Two, and in the anthology "Baby Remember My Name."
edited by Michelle Tea. Currently writes travel articles for Velvet
Park, and reviews for Skin Two, and is completing her memoir entitled
The Tail of a Bondage Model; Memoirs of Madison Young". Madison Young
has traveled the world working with some of the best bondage and
fetish photographers and rope artists in the business. Madison has
been published in over 100 web sites, numerous magazines including
Hustler's Taboo and Leg World, and score of bondage and fetish videos,
international bondage performances, and has started her own line of
bondage videos and websites including www.madisonBond.com and
www.Tied4Sex.com.

Tony DuShane- spends all his time writing, working on his radio show
Drinks with Tony, editing the literary 'zine Cherry Bleeds and bench
pressing women who weigh 165 or less.
His shoe size is 10 and his liver is strong.

Lilycat  Is a strong believer of supporting underground artists, loves
to write, is a fan of sex and rock-n-roll, knows a lot of people on
drugs, and likes to talk. You can find out about her at lilycat.com

Carmelo Valone- the troubled Carmelo Valone grew up surrounded by old
money and living dead residents of the suburbs of Connecticut. In the
early and dysfunctional 1990s he suffered a =8Cbreakdown=B9 and spent a
number of seasons in and out of McLean=B9s Psychiatric hospital. The
former home to numerous other troubled writers such as Silvia Plath,
Anne Sexton, and Susana Kaysen. He is a writer and is currently
working on a darkly humorous memoir about his young adult life in the
hospital called; "The Sex Life of a Lunatic" a search for love within
lunacy. He also has several screenplays and has acted and makes weird
electronic music. He loves to watch Prison Break and feeds ducks at
the Hollywood Forever cemetery.

BURLESQUE PERFORMANCES BY:

Solid Goldiggers Burlesque
A San Francisco based group founded in 2004 as a ladies night escape
from significant others. Consists of dancers Danielle Sipple Katie
Rose, Charlie Fisher, Bene, Melinda, and JoJo who all come from
various dance and theater backgrounds. Fusing the various dance styles
of ballet, theater, funk, and hip hop with traditional burlesque. The
Solid Goldiggers bring you performances like you've never seen that
accentuate all that is dance performance art with a twist of vintage
style and glamour.

Performing at various venues, such as Lingba Lounge, Element, Nickies,
Fashion events, and private events over the past year and a half.
Solid Goldiggers Burlesque continues to bring an element of excitement
and class to the world of dance entertainment while empowering
themselves, each other and their Audiences.

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Not even god think's he's Tiesto.



On 8/29/06, Raj Khattoi <aristotle1980@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a problem. I watched a Tiesto liveset on winamp. It was called DJ
> Tiesto @ Homelands, Matterley. I don't know if this is right or not but
> that
> set was amazing. Can anybody help me in getting the tracks. Also, can
> anyone
> tell me which is the best place in the bay area to buy DVD sets for live
> trance concerts.
>
> Any help in this regard will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards
>
>

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Tiesto live sets

If there IS a god, I submit that he or she has better taste than to think 
that....




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>Subject: Re: [sfraves] Tiesto live sets
>Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:48:42 -0700
>
>Not even god think's he's Tiesto.
>
>
>
>On 8/29/06, Raj Khattoi <aristotle1980@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I have a problem. I watched a Tiesto liveset on winamp. It was called DJ
>>Tiesto @ Homelands, Matterley. I don't know if this is right or not but
>>that
>>set was amazing. Can anybody help me in getting the tracks. Also, can
>>anyone
>>tell me which is the best place in the bay area to buy DVD sets for live
>>trance concerts.
>>
>>Any help in this regard will be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Tiesto live sets

On 8/29/06, Raj Khattoi <aristotle1980@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a problem. I watched a Tiesto liveset on winamp.

I would definitely call that a problem. :D

<now that Raj has been helped by Bam, let the comments begin!>


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Yup, your best bet is tranceaddict.com or trance.nu. Those are the two major
trance specific forums which are usually attended by big time producers (not
tiesto though, he thinks too much of himself to stoop to that level).


On 8/29/06, Nic Werner <nicwerner@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 8/29/06, Raj Khattoi <aristotle1980@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a problem. I watched a Tiesto liveset on winamp.
>
> I would definitely call that a problem. :D
>
> <now that Raj has been helped by Bam, let the comments begin!>
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Tiesto's very existence pretty much proves there is NOT a god.
(Or at least that if there is, he's a sick, sick fuck.)

;)

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>
> If there IS a god, I submit that he or she has better taste than to think
> that....
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Alex Laughlin-Dendy" <aldendy@gmail.com>
> >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: Re: [sfraves] Tiesto live sets
> >Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:48:42 -0700
> >
> >Not even god think's he's Tiesto.
> >
> >
> >
> >On 8/29/06, Raj Khattoi <aristotle1980@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>I have a problem. I watched a Tiesto liveset on winamp. It was called DJ
> >>Tiesto @ Homelands, Matterley. I don't know if this is right or not but
> >>that
> >>set was amazing. Can anybody help me in getting the tracks. Also, can
> >>anyone
> >>tell me which is the best place in the bay area to buy DVD sets for live
> >>trance concerts.
> >>
> >>Any help in this regard will be greatly appreciated.
> >>
> >>Regards
> >>
> >>
>
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Ratify!




>From: "Greg Bird" <bird415@gmail.com>
>To: "Van Mundegaarde" <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
>CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] Tiesto live sets
>Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:32:01 -0700
>
>Tiesto's very existence pretty much proves there is NOT a god.
>(Or at least that if there is, he's a sick, sick fuck.)
>
>;)
>
>----->G
>
>Hating trance is grate!
>http://www.ishkur.com/articles/trancecracker.php
>http://groups.myspace.com/destroyalltrance
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On 8/29/06, Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>If there IS a god, I submit that he or she has better taste than to think
>>that....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >From: "Alex Laughlin-Dendy" <aldendy@gmail.com>
>> >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> >Subject: Re: [sfraves] Tiesto live sets
>> >Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:48:42 -0700
>> >
>> >Not even god think's he's Tiesto.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On 8/29/06, Raj Khattoi <aristotle1980@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>Hi,
>> >>
>> >>I have a problem. I watched a Tiesto liveset on winamp. It was called 
>>DJ
>> >>Tiesto @ Homelands, Matterley. I don't know if this is right or not but
>> >>that
>> >>set was amazing. Can anybody help me in getting the tracks. Also, can
>> >>anyone
>> >>tell me which is the best place in the bay area to buy DVD sets for 
>>live
>> >>trance concerts.
>> >>
>> >>Any help in this regard will be greatly appreciated.
>> >>
>> >>Regards
>> >>
>> >>
>>
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Subject: [sfraves] Parties this weekend?

What do you think?

A.  All events will bomb because everyone is at Burningman!

B.  All events will bomb because of the Bay Bridge closure!

C.  All events will be awesome because there will be no Burners nor
bridge and tunnelers!!!!


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I will be bombed...I dunno about the rest.

Wait, you didn't ask us that, did you, lol.



>From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
>To: SFR <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: [sfraves] Parties this weekend?
>Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:44:07 -0700
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>What do you think?
>
>A.  All events will bomb because everyone is at Burningman!
>
>B.  All events will bomb because of the Bay Bridge closure!
>
>C.  All events will be awesome because there will be no Burners nor
>bridge and tunnelers!!!!
>
>
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I'm wondering if there is a day party somewhere on
Sunday; my lil sister is coming to visit and i'd love
to take her somewhere. Or maybe even an all ages rave.

-D.

--- Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:

> What do you think?
> 
> A.  All events will bomb because everyone is at
> Burningman!
> 
> B.  All events will bomb because of the Bay Bridge
> closure!
> 
> C.  All events will be awesome because there will be
> no Burners nor
> bridge and tunnelers!!!!
> 
> 
> -- 
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Tiesto live sets

To be fair, Tiesto's 'production partner' is Martin Buttrich who is one half 
of ubercoolische group Loco Dice and who has a forthcoming ep on planet E, 
Carl Craig's label. but yes, he still sucks. now back to lurking.

Quoting Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com>:

> Tiesto's very existence pretty much proves there is NOT a god.
> (Or at least that if there is, he's a sick, sick fuck.)
> 
> ;)
> 
> ----->G
> 
> Hating trance is grate!
> http://www.ishkur.com/articles/trancecracker.php
> http://groups.myspace.com/destroyalltrance
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/29/06, Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > If there IS a god, I submit that he or she has better taste than to think
> > that....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Alex Laughlin-Dendy" <aldendy@gmail.com>
> > >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > >Subject: Re: [sfraves] Tiesto live sets
> > >Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:48:42 -0700
> > >
> > >Not even god think's he's Tiesto.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On 8/29/06, Raj Khattoi <aristotle1980@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>Hi,
> > >>
> > >>I have a problem. I watched a Tiesto liveset on winamp. It was called
> DJ
> > >>Tiesto @ Homelands, Matterley. I don't know if this is right or not but
> > >>that
> > >>set was amazing. Can anybody help me in getting the tracks. Also, can
> > >>anyone
> > >>tell me which is the best place in the bay area to buy DVD sets for
> live
> > >>trance concerts.
> > >>
> > >>Any help in this regard will be greatly appreciated.
> > >>
> > >>Regards
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Tiesto live sets

What an awesome last name

On 8/29/06, james.hurlbut@utoronto.ca <james.hurlbut@utoronto.ca> wrote:
> To be fair, Tiesto's 'production partner' is Martin Buttrich who is one half
> of ubercoolische group Loco Dice and who has a forthcoming ep on planet E,
> Carl Craig's label. but yes, he still sucks. now back to lurking.
>
> Quoting Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com>:
>
> > Tiesto's very existence pretty much proves there is NOT a god.
> > (Or at least that if there is, he's a sick, sick fuck.)
> >
> > ;)
> >
> > ----->G
> >
> > Hating trance is grate!
> > http://www.ishkur.com/articles/trancecracker.php
> > http://groups.myspace.com/destroyalltrance
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/29/06, Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > If there IS a god, I submit that he or she has better taste than to think
> > > that....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Alex Laughlin-Dendy" <aldendy@gmail.com>
> > > >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > > >Subject: Re: [sfraves] Tiesto live sets
> > > >Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:48:42 -0700
> > > >
> > > >Not even god think's he's Tiesto.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On 8/29/06, Raj Khattoi <aristotle1980@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >>I have a problem. I watched a Tiesto liveset on winamp. It was called
> > DJ
> > > >>Tiesto @ Homelands, Matterley. I don't know if this is right or not but
> > > >>that
> > > >>set was amazing. Can anybody help me in getting the tracks. Also, can
> > > >>anyone
> > > >>tell me which is the best place in the bay area to buy DVD sets for
> > live
> > > >>trance concerts.
> > > >>
> > > >>Any help in this regard will be greatly appreciated.
> > > >>
> > > >>Regards
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > > _________________________________________________________________
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Parties this weekend?

BAH!! raves are dead! Didn't you get the memo? It also mentioned
something about a coversheet on your TPS report.


On 8/29/06, Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
> What do you think?
>
> A.  All events will bomb because everyone is at Burningman!
>
> B.  All events will bomb because of the Bay Bridge closure!
>
> C.  All events will be awesome because there will be no Burners nor
> bridge and tunnelers!!!!
>
>
> --
> --------------------------
> < Brandon / DJ Bam >
>
> DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
> http://www.evilbreaks.com
>
> August 12th:  Obsoleet
> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
> August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
> September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
> October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
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In a message dated 8/26/2006 3:19:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time,  
sosteen@gmail.com writes:

Am I the  only one that gets massive chills and practically comes to tears of
joy  watching Groove? 
I DO! :D

I  remember the first time I saw it I was watching it
with a few people VERY  unfamiliar with this scene and I kept going "yeah it
is like that!, I can  feel it!" and they kept saying, "wtf is wrong with you,
this movie is  dumb". I guess I get too emotional from music. At the end when
Digweed  plays heavenscent I jump up and start yelling and  shit.




I went and saw the movie with my family on my sixteenth birthday. I totally  
gushed the entire time and still do everytime I see it.
 
I'm seriously down for a "SFR watches Groove together" movie night. Who's  
volunteering their house?? : )

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Parties this weekend?



I love being in the city this weekend.  Its like a vast, silent, urban 
wilderness.  Never any neighbors around to disturb!  No waiting for cocktails!
Easy taxis!   I will rule my empty domain like a king!

-troy



On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 03:44:07PM -0700, Bam wrote:
> What do you think?
> 
> A.  All events will bomb because everyone is at Burningman!
> 
> B.  All events will bomb because of the Bay Bridge closure!
> 
> C.  All events will be awesome because there will be no Burners nor
> bridge and tunnelers!!!!
> 
> 
> -- 
> --------------------------
> < Brandon / DJ Bam >
> 
> DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
> http://www.evilbreaks.com
> 
> August 12th:  Obsoleet
> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
> August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
> September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
> October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
> 
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] WR: My Hella Funny Flip Friday Night...

LoL.... no... well.. a big night for her is Salsa dancing @ a Salsa club
:)  LoL  Same Flava.. diff taste :)

Sexy Back.. oooh... I Love Justin Timberlake!!!  & he went Electro Clash!!
 I Love It! :)
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Steve Osteen wrote:
> Osby, You're bringing sexy back. Hot, does she party as hard as you?
>
>
> On 8/28/06, Osby Oi Oi Jamz <osby@viberation.com> wrote:
>>
>> So like my 1st Cousin from Australlia, Mitchie,  was here like since
>> last
>> Wed night to Sat night... Hello 2day
>>
>>
>> http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l188/YummyBeats/Mitchie-s%20Visit%20August%202006-%20Fam%20stuff/zebulon008.jpg
>>
>> ... like last time i saw her was like over ummmm... i dunno.. hella
>> years
>> ago... last time she spent like 2 weeks here & I had a car & we went out
>> everywhere :)  This time... she went out 2 Days in a row w/ my Uncle,
>> none
>> of us really got to spend time w/ her.. la la la... my Mom was even sad
>> that she didn't get to take her Shopping...
>>
>> So anywaze.. Friday... my like ok.. see.. my mom has like this
>> misplacing
>> her emotion bullshit thingie goin' on & she always misdirects her shit
>> to
>> other people when she's feelin' like crap... so Friday she totally took
>> it
>> out on me 'cause she was hurt that she well.. what i mentioned above...
>> so
>> I dunno..i kinda got outta the house early & went to the City 'cause Mr
>> Paulie Paul (Flash) Gordon sent out a myspace BB that he was gonna be
>> spinning @ this food place/ bar thingie in SOMA on Natoma called
>> Zebulon... "interesting" i thought.. so yeah.. it's been 4ever since we
>> kicked it...
>>
>> I got there & like as soon as i well.. OK.. 1st off... I saw like all
>> these mondo yuppies hangin' out there... like outside... so i was all
>> like
>> ummm... OK... but i heard these Yummy deep house beats from inside.. so
>> i
>> went in & looked around.... people eating this Froo Froo Shee Shee
>> food...
>> well.. i peaked @ the menu b43 i walked inside & like other people
>> havin'
>> drinks... ok... then i looked up @ the Balcony/ Loft Thingie & saw
>> Paulie
>> all up there mixing... LOL.. Hello 2day.. & pointed @ him & smiled & he
>> pointed back & waved a record @ me.. LOL.. it was Dope...
>>
>> So I like manuvered my way through the crowd.... this place was packed
>> w/
>> people eating & drinking & the tables were so close together... next
>> thing
>> i know.. i hear someone call my name & it ended up being my cousin
>> Angeline who i ain't seen in a few months (another 1st cousin) & we
>> talked
>> for like hella minutes about Mitchie & stuff... it was Dope & unexpected
>> 'cause YAAAY.. REUNION!! :)  But yeah man.. it was just funny as hell
>> bumping into her &* like seein her lil' social group of Homies & shit :)
>>
>> So I made my way up to the loft thingie where Paulie was... we talked &
>> I
>> met the promoter of the happy hour House thingie... lol... He's CooL..
>> Ummm.. let's call him Tom for now... Tom for now.. really nice guy...
>> actually.. originally from Sac then moved to the City to further his
>> career as a house DJ...  Sweet! :)  Then i met more people, all House
>> Heads & 1/2 of them from Sac too :)  So that was Dope!  Actually... i
>> found out that Zebulon was their Remedy preparty meet up... so yeah.. i
>> met 1 of the crews that hit up Remedy.. Lol... it was Wicked!  They are
>> all Groovy people! :)
>>
>> So I'm down in the 1st floor of the Resturaunt/ Bar place... talkin' to
>> another one of the Remedy Preparty OG from Sac Chicas... let's call her
>> Fancis for now... she was tellin me that Zebulon is a Filipino owned
>> joint.. just then... 1 of the owners, Ed, came by & gave us like 2 cups
>> of
>> ooh.. ummm.. this expensive wine.. forgot the name... then Francis for
>> now
>> introduced me to Ed... so we talk & talk... ok.. now check this shit
>> out... 'cause i knew he looked familiar & i asked him what high school
>> he
>> went to.. then I told him my cousin Mylee went to that school... & he
>> liek
>> ok.. the whole time we're talkin', he had this like kinda perplexed look
>> on his face... so when i told him Mylee's last name was Pascual.. he
>> tripped out..
>>
>> Turns out my cousin went to a different high school & he knew 'cause he
>> was married to her.. Heeeeeeeeello 2Daaaaaaay... so like yeah.. this
>> Owner
>> Dude, Ed, is my cousin... so we talked about all the recent family
>> parties
>> & if he went & i went & la la la la.. trippy shit man... I mean.. we
>> ain't
>> seen each other in like man.. amost as long as i ain't seen Mitchie...
>> so
>> yeah... this was heeeeeella trippy :)  So yeah.. i kinda milked the
>> whole
>> "well I'm related to the owner" card & got free drinks the whole night
>> :P
>> I mean.. he let me.. so i did!!!  LOLOLMAO  But yeah.. for now...
>> Zebulon
>> is primarily like a lunch/ dinner/ drinks place.... mainly opened during
>> happy hour wait...
>>
>> http://www.zebulonsf.com/
>>
>> but yeah... Ed's workin' on getting the proper liscences & permits to
>> make
>> that place run longer then 10PM on the weekends & I told him I'll help
>> him
>> w/ that & stuff since I still got that SFLNC knowledge in me still &
>> know
>> a few people in City Hall in the City who could help things :)  So when
>> this becomes a legit venue y'all... u know what's gonna go down :P
>> Hello
>> 2day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> BUt it was a fun night... the music was Sick... Paulie's set was Yummy
>> the
>> 1st time.. he strait just went with this "Sexy" deep loungie house
>> vibe...
>> then Tom for Now got on next & played some like alota Tribal & Proggy
>> House... Then Paulie got back on & played some like ok... Salsa,
>> Basanova,
>> Sexy House, some really deep proggy Breaks.. I mean.. deep deep, & some
>> SExy House Covers of 80's songs :)
>>
>> Oh yeah... in the morning.. like Mitchie woke me up @ 9AM for Breakfast
>> (Bless my Awesome Cousin)& by like 9PM..i was getting tired (add to that
>> a
>> big ass mexican dinner that i didn't get @ Zebulon 'cause that was b4
>> the
>> Cousin connex & all the food there is no less than $7)... So i stayed
>> 'til
>> like 10 then walked to bart...
>>
>> OK.. here's where things get more interesting.. kinda... so i go walk up
>> to market & have to like cross the street... so i'm walkin' across the
>> cross walk & a cab seriosly like almost hits me.... like stopped @ the
>> point where it almost like tooked out my leg if he drove further... so I
>> hit the hood of his cab hard & flipped him off... then he said something
>> to me in like whatefer language.. then i said FUCK YOU hella loud!
>> right
>> then, when i got to the other corner.... someone yelled out "OSBY" in a
>> passing car... so i waved back hella laughing after that then went to
>> bart.
>>
>> OK.. The End.. lol.. fun night :)
>>
>> Oh
>>
>> http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l188/YummyBeats/ZEBULON%208-25-2006/
>> --
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>> Peace=->Jus' Me =-> O§bY {8O)
>>
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Hi! Welcome to the list!

For me, parties (raves) are about electronic music and watching and feeling
peoples interaction to that music. Music is so emotional and nothing beats
being in a crowd of strangers all feeling something similar from a
particular sound. A DJ can control your night and bring you up and down OR
ruin it by having poor taste in record selection or sequencing and leaving
you in a low (luckily you can always go to another room or wait for the next
DJ to come on).

Music and parties have nothing to do with drugs, but like anything else in
life can be either enhanced or destroyed by it's use.

See you around!


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> Howdy folks! I'm new to this list, and new to San
> Francisco. So much new-ness going on it's crazy!
>
> My first E experience was about four months ago. It
> was such a mind-blowingly fun experience, and it was
> just myself and my girlfriend. Since then we've done
> it a couple times, but it's still just been me and
> her. I'm curious as to the rave scene, seems like it
> would be fun with the right combination of chemicals,
> but I'm not sure where a good place to start out is.
> And all this talk of parties in Hunter's Point and
> people getting shot ... frankly makes me happy to just
> stay at home and walk around the city and stuff.
>
> So, any advice?
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I'm off to Burningman!!!!


In a message dated 8/29/06 3:44:46 PM, invibe@gmail.com writes:


>=20
> A.=A0 All events will bomb because everyone is at Burningman!
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hehe, yeah, i'm in there:  pigtails and all.  :)

shane

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Subject: [sfraves] FRESH: Escape from Planet Monday - US release :)





out 9/5  :)

System Recordings and HUMAN Imprint are proud to present 'Escape From
Planet
Monday' - the first full length artist album from UK drum and bass producer
extraordinaire, DJ Fresh. Featuring DJ Shadow, Apollo 440, Pet Shop Boys
and
the massive drum 'n' bass anthem "All That Jazz VIP", 'Escape From Planet
Monday' delivers everything you would expect from the man behind Bad
Company
UK.

'Escape From Planet Monday' is a rollercoaster ride through all of the
facets of DJ Fresh's imagination. DJ Fresh links Apollo 440 for "Nervous"
and the Pet Shop Boys for "Throw". He experiments with DJ Shadow for
"Closer" and brings in d'n'b sensations Pendulum for "Babylon Rising."
Couple that with all new mixes of club favorites "Submarines", "All That
Jazz" and "All Strung Out" and an album with many dimensions starts to
shape
up.

Catch DJ Fresh with Dieselboy on tour all Fall 2006 in support of 'Escape
>From Planet Monday'!

TRACKLISTING:
1. Nervous (Feat. Mary Byker of Apollo 440)
2. The Pink Panther
3. All That Jazz (Feat. MC Darrison)
4. Babylon Rising (Feat. Pendulum & Singing Fats)
5. Closer (Feat. DJ Shadow)
6. X Project Intro
7. X Project
8. The Immortal
9. Submarines (Domestic Cold War Edit)
10. Funk Academy Intro
11. Funk Academy
12. Looking Glass
13. All Strung Out (Thunder VIP)
14. Throw Intro
15. Throw (Feat. Neil Tennant)

+ "Nervous" VIDEO (Enhanced CD)


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Subject: [sfraves] NRR: Terrorists "drive taxi cabs in the daytime and kill at night"

Go Montana!


Burns Says Terrorists Drive Taxis by Day
- By MATT GOURAS, Associated Press Writer
Thursday, August 31, 2006

(08-31) 07:00 PDT Belgrade, Mont. (AP) --

Republican Sen. Conrad Burns, whose recent comments have stirred
controversy, says the United States is up against a faceless enemy of
terrorists who "drive taxi cabs in the daytime and kill at night."

During a fundraiser Wednesday with first lady Laura Bush, the
three-term Montana senator talked about terrorism, tax cuts and the
money he has brought to his state. Burns is one of the more vulnerable
Senate incumbents, facing a tough challenge from Democrat Jon Tester.

He has drawn criticism in recent weeks for calling his house painter a
"nice little Guatemalan man" during a June speech. Burns, whose
re-election campaign is pressing for tighter immigration controls,
also suggested that the man might be an illegal immigrant. The
campaign later said the worker is legal.

Burns, 71, also had to apologize after confronting members of a
firefighting team at the Billings airport and telling them they had
done a "piss-poor job," according to a state report. In July, the
Hotshot crew had traveled 2,000 miles from Staunton, Va., to help dig
fire lines for about a week around a 143-square-mile wildfire east of
Billings.

At the campaign event with Bush, Burns talked about the war on
terrorism, saying a "faceless enemy" of terrorists "drive taxi cabs in
the daytime and kill at night."

Bush described Burns as a strong advocate for Montana farmers and families.

"In Washington, Senator Burns is a respected voice on the issues
facing rural communities in Montana and across the nation," Bush told
Burns supporters.

She also said Burns has been important in helping the president on key
initiatives, such as tax cuts, and has supported the troops fighting
in Iraq and the war on terror.


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Montana durka durka jihad!



On Aug 31, 2006, at 11:07 AM, Bam wrote:

> Go Montana!

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let's do it.  someone's gotta have a warehouse in soma
with a big projector screen..

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hehe, yeah, i'm in there:  pigtails and all.  :)

shane

On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Osby Oi Oi Jamz wrote:

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I think i also 
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> Peace=->Jus' Me =-> O§bY {8O)



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Subject: [sfraves] Mayor of Salt Lake protests Bush

Long but very strong speech from someone deep in the heart of Mormonville.
 Highly recommended if you have the time to watch the whole thing.

http://www.addictingclips.com/Content.aspx?key=66CF2C18545DF6AC

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Groove 

we're already workin on it, Miss Jane.

i'm going to ask Dave and Vanessa if we can watch it at the Church.

-philip-


On Aug 31, 2006, at 11:15 AM, Calamity Jane wrote:

> let's do it.  someone's gotta have a warehouse in soma
> with a big projector screen..
>
> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:24:28 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Plastic Nuclear Ferret" <donut@bayarea.net>
> To: "Osby Oi Oi Jamz" <osby@viberation.com>
> CC: "Terry Estioko" <terry@hyperreal.org>, "Delia"
> <velouria83@yahoo.com>, "D D" <technicak47@yahoo.com>,
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> hehe, yeah, i'm in there:  pigtails and all.  :)
>
> shane
>
> On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Osby Oi Oi Jamz wrote:
>
>> Larry Ching is standing in line for the Bathroom :)
> I think i also
> saw
>> Shane's Sillouette in one of the dancing scenes :)
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Terrorists "drive taxi cabs in the daytime and kill at night"

This guy has it all wrong.  Terrorists carry plastic piggy banks, folders and thick books.  Seriously.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/08/31/headlines/headlines_30012441.php

Peter

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Montana durka durka jihad!



On Aug 31, 2006, at 11:07 AM, Bam wrote:

> Go Montana!

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Terrorists "drive taxi cabs in the daytime and kill at night"

The anti-arab attitudes our government is taking is
sickening. It's similar to the Japanese in WWII. I
don't think this should be tolerated.

-D.

--- Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:

> Go Montana!
> 
> 
> Burns Says Terrorists Drive Taxis by Day
> - By MATT GOURAS, Associated Press Writer
> Thursday, August 31, 2006
> 
> (08-31) 07:00 PDT Belgrade, Mont. (AP) --
> 
> Republican Sen. Conrad Burns, whose recent comments
> have stirred
> controversy, says the United States is up against a
> faceless enemy of
> terrorists who "drive taxi cabs in the daytime and
> kill at night."
> 
> During a fundraiser Wednesday with first lady Laura
> Bush, the
> three-term Montana senator talked about terrorism,
> tax cuts and the
> money he has brought to his state. Burns is one of
> the more vulnerable
> Senate incumbents, facing a tough challenge from
> Democrat Jon Tester.
> 
> He has drawn criticism in recent weeks for calling
> his house painter a
> "nice little Guatemalan man" during a June speech.
> Burns, whose
> re-election campaign is pressing for tighter
> immigration controls,
> also suggested that the man might be an illegal
> immigrant. The
> campaign later said the worker is legal.
> 
> Burns, 71, also had to apologize after confronting
> members of a
> firefighting team at the Billings airport and
> telling them they had
> done a "piss-poor job," according to a state report.
> In July, the
> Hotshot crew had traveled 2,000 miles from Staunton,
> Va., to help dig
> fire lines for about a week around a 143-square-mile
> wildfire east of
> Billings.
> 
> At the campaign event with Bush, Burns talked about
> the war on
> terrorism, saying a "faceless enemy" of terrorists
> "drive taxi cabs in
> the daytime and kill at night."
> 
> Bush described Burns as a strong advocate for
> Montana farmers and families.
> 
> "In Washington, Senator Burns is a respected voice
> on the issues
> facing rural communities in Montana and across the
> nation," Bush told
> Burns supporters.
> 
> She also said Burns has been important in helping
> the president on key
> initiatives, such as tax cuts, and has supported the
> troops fighting
> in Iraq and the war on terror.
> 
> 
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] [NRR]Mayor of Salt Lake protests Bush

Er yeah, NRR.. *blushes*

Long but very strong speech from someone deep in the heart of Mormonville.
Highly recommended if you have the time to watch the whole thing.

http://www.addictingclips.com/Content.aspx?key=66CF2C18545DF6AC

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] [NRR]Mayor of Salt Lake protests Bush

That's quite compelling.  Thanks!

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Er yeah, NRR.. *blushes*

Long but very strong speech from someone deep in the heart of Mormonville.
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Subject: [sfraves] SRR: wtf Nickie's on Haight sold and will be shut down?

say whoozit whazzit???

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> On 8/31/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:The anti-arab attitudes our
> government is taking is
> sickening. It's similar to the Japanese in WWII. I
> don't think this should be tolerated.


Indeed.

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Subject: RE: [sfraves] SRR: wtf Nickie's on Haight sold and will be shut down?

Um...where did you hear that?

Hasn't been mentioned to me or any of the other Ferrets, and we're doing our 
weekly there...



>From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
>To: SFR <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: [sfraves] SRR: wtf Nickie's on Haight sold and will be shut down?
>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:05:14 -0700
>
>say whoozit whazzit???
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Terrorists "drive taxi cabs in the daytime and kill at night"

oh cut them a little slack - they're REPUBLICANS for fuck's sake.   
they don't know any better.

pxd


On Aug 31, 2006, at 12:13 PM, Max Dykstra wrote:

>>
>> On 8/31/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:The anti-arab  
>> attitudes our
>> government is taking is
>> sickening. It's similar to the Japanese in WWII. I
>> don't think this should be tolerated.
>
>
> Indeed.


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Subject: Re: [sfraves] SRR: wtf Nickie's on Haight sold and will be shut down?

it was just posted on the renegade ferrets tribe.

argh!

On 8/31/06, Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Um...where did you hear that?
>
> Hasn't been mentioned to me or any of the other Ferrets, and we're doing our
> weekly there...
>
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> >From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] SRR: wtf Nickie's on Haight sold and will be shut down?

ahhh...sorry to see that go:(

-D.

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] SRR: wtf Nickie's on Haight sold and will be shut down?

And so you're right.

Weird. I wonder when this is supposed to go down...I'm sure we'll have info 
ASAP.

And no worries - Crooked will continue, by hook or by crook. ;)




>From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
>To: "Van Mundegaarde" <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
>CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] SRR: wtf Nickie's on Haight sold and will be shut 
>down?
>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:17:06 -0700
>
>it was just posted on the renegade ferrets tribe.
>
>argh!
>
>On 8/31/06, Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>Um...where did you hear that?
>>
>>Hasn't been mentioned to me or any of the other Ferrets, and we're doing 
>>our
>>weekly there...
>>
>>
>>
>> >From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
>> >To: SFR <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>> >Subject: [sfraves] SRR: wtf Nickie's on Haight sold and will be shut 
>>down?
>> >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:05:14 -0700
>> >
>> >say whoozit whazzit???
>> >
>> >--
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>> >
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Terrorists "drive taxi cabs in the daytime and kill at night"

Its interesting that this comes to light at the same
time of as this:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/08/30/state/n130540D11.DTL&hw=arabic+shirt&sn=001&sc=1000

I know that this kind of discrimination has been going
on since 9/11 but its just ridiculous.

-D.

--- Max Dykstra <digerati@gmail.com> wrote:

> >
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> > don't think this should be tolerated.
> 
> 
> Indeed.
> 


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Subject: Re: [sfraves] SRR: wtf Nickie's on Haight sold and will be shut down?

That place smells unsanitary and requires a monastary's worth of
incense to make it bearable on any given night. I'd warn any potential
buyer.

On 8/31/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> ahhh...sorry to see that go:(
>
> -D.
>
> --- Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
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Subject: RE: [sfraves] SRR: wtf Nickie's on Haight sold and will be shut down?

Will they finally get a fucking liquor license?
just a thought....
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>From: "Van Mundegaarde" <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
>To: invibe@gmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
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>Um...where did you hear that?
>
>Hasn't been mentioned to me or any of the other Ferrets, and we're doing 
>our weekly there...
>
>
>
>>From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
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>>Subject: [sfraves] SRR: wtf Nickie's on Haight sold and will be shut down?
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] SRR: wtf Nickie's on Haight sold and will be shut down?

LMFAO!!! So true...but once the Nag Champa is lit and the 420 is on fire, 
the place smells...well, like a stinky place with cover up scents, lol.



>From: "Jennifer Clemente" <jennifer.clemente@gmail.com>
>To: Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
>CC: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>, SFR <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] SRR: wtf Nickie's on Haight sold and will be shut 
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>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:28:57 -0700
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>That place smells unsanitary and requires a monastary's worth of
>incense to make it bearable on any given night. I'd warn any potential
>buyer.
>
>On 8/31/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>ahhh...sorry to see that go:(
>>
>>-D.
>>
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Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or Islamic extremists, terrorism is just a
form of fighting similar to guerrilla warfare. Anyone can be a terrorist
(Timmothy Mcvay), but the ones we need to concentrate this war on are the
Islamic fascist types (you know the ones that say they want to kill everyone
that isn't muslim). Obviously, this guy was just making a statement with his
shirt and was not a threat, just as all the loud UCSF students aren't a
threat. That was a nasty breach of his civil rights as an American citizen.
So how do we fight the IF's? Profile? Hope they all go to Iraq? What are we
to do as citizens that want to protect our country from attacks?

So what ever happened to the news about that dude that went GTA with a 5000
lbs SUV through Fremont and SF? Wasn't that a terrorist act performed by a
Muslim? Why no news? Is it because he isn't White? Oh, I see, he had mental
issues.... sure, just like that guy that shot all the people in the LA
airport that we never heard about also. Funny how all that is covered on the
news is about some white girl that died 10 years ago.


On 8/31/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Its interesting that this comes to light at the same
> time of as this:
>
>
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/08/30/state/n130540D11.DTL&hw=arabic+shirt&sn=001&sc=1000
>
> I know that this kind of discrimination has been going
> on since 9/11 but its just ridiculous.
>
> -D.
>
> --- Max Dykstra <digerati@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >
> > > On 8/31/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:The
> > anti-arab attitudes our
> > > government is taking is
> > > sickening. It's similar to the Japanese in WWII. I
> > > don't think this should be tolerated.
> >
> >
> > Indeed.
> >
>
>
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You know, there are a whole shitload of Christian Terrorists that need dealt 
witrh too - ya know, the ones that say "if you aren't Christian, you're a 
heathen". Those same folks that start new hoily wars in the name of their 
Christian god.

ALL fundamentalists are terrorists to SOMEONE.




>From: "Steve Osteen" <sosteen@gmail.com>
>To: Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
>CC: "Max Dykstra" <digerati@gmail.com>, SFR <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Terrorists "drive taxi cabs in the daytime and 
>kill at night"
>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:50:56 -0700
>
>Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or Islamic extremists, terrorism is just 
>a
>form of fighting similar to guerrilla warfare. Anyone can be a terrorist
>(Timmothy Mcvay), but the ones we need to concentrate this war on are the
>Islamic fascist types (you know the ones that say they want to kill 
>everyone
>that isn't muslim). Obviously, this guy was just making a statement with 
>his
>shirt and was not a threat, just as all the loud UCSF students aren't a
>threat. That was a nasty breach of his civil rights as an American citizen.
>So how do we fight the IF's? Profile? Hope they all go to Iraq? What are we
>to do as citizens that want to protect our country from attacks?
>
>So what ever happened to the news about that dude that went GTA with a 5000
>lbs SUV through Fremont and SF? Wasn't that a terrorist act performed by a
>Muslim? Why no news? Is it because he isn't White? Oh, I see, he had mental
>issues.... sure, just like that guy that shot all the people in the LA
>airport that we never heard about also. Funny how all that is covered on 
>the
>news is about some white girl that died 10 years ago.
>
>
>On 8/31/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>Its interesting that this comes to light at the same
>>time of as this:
>>
>>
>>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/08/30/state/n130540D11.DTL&hw=arabic+shirt&sn=001&sc=1000
>>
>>I know that this kind of discrimination has been going
>>on since 9/11 but its just ridiculous.
>>
>>-D.
>>
>>--- Max Dykstra <digerati@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > >
>> > > On 8/31/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:The
>> > anti-arab attitudes our
>> > > government is taking is
>> > > sickening. It's similar to the Japanese in WWII. I
>> > > don't think this should be tolerated.
>> >
>> >
>> > Indeed.
>> >
>>
>>
>>a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and packing my bongloads!
>>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Terrorists "drive taxi cabs in the daytime and kill at night"

I don't think the hit and run rampage in SF requires
the brand of terrorism. Terrorism in definition is a
violent act presented by a group for some sort of
statement or cause. That hardly qualifies when the guy
stated he did it just because 'he wanted to'. I think
people generalize far too much when they call any act
by a muslim or someone of arab decent terrorism. That
word is thrown around far too much imo these days, and
is used to incite fear in the masses by the
government.


-D.

--- Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:

> Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or Islamic
> extremists, terrorism is just a
> form of fighting similar to guerrilla warfare.
> Anyone can be a terrorist
> (Timmothy Mcvay), but the ones we need to
> concentrate this war on are the
> Islamic fascist types (you know the ones that say
> they want to kill everyone
> that isn't muslim). Obviously, this guy was just
> making a statement with his
> shirt and was not a threat, just as all the loud
> UCSF students aren't a
> threat. That was a nasty breach of his civil rights
> as an American citizen.
> So how do we fight the IF's? Profile? Hope they all
> go to Iraq? What are we
> to do as citizens that want to protect our country
> from attacks?
> 
> So what ever happened to the news about that dude
> that went GTA with a 5000
> lbs SUV through Fremont and SF? Wasn't that a
> terrorist act performed by a
> Muslim? Why no news? Is it because he isn't White?
> Oh, I see, he had mental
> issues.... sure, just like that guy that shot all
> the people in the LA
> airport that we never heard about also. Funny how
> all that is covered on the
> news is about some white girl that died 10 years
> ago.
> 
> 
> On 8/31/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Its interesting that this comes to light at the
> same
> > time of as this:
> >
> >
> >
>
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/08/30/state/n130540D11.DTL&hw=arabic+shirt&sn=001&sc=1000
> >
> > I know that this kind of discrimination has been
> going
> > on since 9/11 but its just ridiculous.
> >
> > -D.
> >
> > --- Max Dykstra <digerati@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > On 8/31/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
> wrote:The
> > > anti-arab attitudes our
> > > > government is taking is
> > > > sickening. It's similar to the Japanese in
> WWII. I
> > > > don't think this should be tolerated.
> > >
> > >
> > > Indeed.
> > >
> >
> >
> > a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and
> packing my bongloads!
> >
> > aim= junglegurlee510
> > yahoo= velouria83
> > google talk= mskittiecat@gmail.com
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<snip>Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or Islamic extremists, terrorism is
just a
form of fighting similar to guerrilla warfare.</snip>

Racist much?

On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or Islamic extremists, terrorism is just
> a
> form of fighting similar to guerrilla warfare. Anyone can be a terrorist
> (Timmothy Mcvay), but the ones we need to concentrate this war on are the
> Islamic fascist types (you know the ones that say they want to kill
> everyone
> that isn't muslim). Obviously, this guy was just making a statement with
> his
> shirt and was not a threat, just as all the loud UCSF students aren't a
> threat. That was a nasty breach of his civil rights as an American
> citizen.
> So how do we fight the IF's? Profile? Hope they all go to Iraq? What are
> we
> to do as citizens that want to protect our country from attacks?
>
> So what ever happened to the news about that dude that went GTA with a
> 5000
> lbs SUV through Fremont and SF? Wasn't that a terrorist act performed by a
> Muslim? Why no news? Is it because he isn't White? Oh, I see, he had
> mental
> issues.... sure, just like that guy that shot all the people in the LA
> airport that we never heard about also. Funny how all that is covered on
> the
> news is about some white girl that died 10 years ago.
>
>
> On 8/31/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Its interesting that this comes to light at the same
> > time of as this:
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/08/30/state/n130540D11.DTL&hw=arabic+shirt&sn=001&sc=1000
> >
> > I know that this kind of discrimination has been going
> > on since 9/11 but its just ridiculous.
> >
> > -D.
> >
> > --- Max Dykstra <digerati@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > On 8/31/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:The
> > > anti-arab attitudes our
> > > > government is taking is
> > > > sickening. It's similar to the Japanese in WWII. I
> > > > don't think this should be tolerated.
> > >
> > >
> > > Indeed.
> > >
> >
> >
> > a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and packing my bongloads!
> >
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Subject: [sfraves] Hey guys..

I'm gonna sign off of the list for a while. I'm not seeing anything
that's really catching my interest on here anymore. Being as most of
my views politically and personally are very different than everyone
else's, I feel like quite the outcast.

Things have changed a lot since I signed back on almost 2 years ago
now, and I don't feel the urge to really continue on here. I'll sign
on if I end up coming out to the bay area, but being as most of the
posts on here are political in nature, and usually just piss me off.

I'm just not feeling it anymore. Something's missing. Hell, I haven't
lived in the bay area in about 3 1/2 years, and haven't been out to
visit since early '05.

If you want to get in touch with me directly, feel free to send me an
email at antitux@gmail.com, or hit me up on aim/yahoo with the sn
antitux. I've also got myspace and livejournal, but I'll let you find
those yourselves. Probably won't take too long.

Anyhow guys, Just wanted to say "Hi" and "Bye".

Later kids,

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Subject: RE: [sfraves] Hey guys..

Sad to see anyone go, but I totally hear you.

Are Bam , GAMMA & I the only folks that ever post BSP's ???

How's about party reviews? I know Peter has done that - but apparently one 
can get skewered for even stating their opinion on a party they went to.

CD reviews??? Does that EVER happen?

And as far as mix reviews...I have received exactly ONE response about the 
mix I posted last week...so I guess not.

*sigh*

Stupid politics are teh ghey.




>From: "John Dee" <antitux@gmail.com>
>To: SFR <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: [sfraves] Hey guys..
>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:26:18 -0700
>
>I'm gonna sign off of the list for a while. I'm not seeing anything
>that's really catching my interest on here anymore. Being as most of
>my views politically and personally are very different than everyone
>else's, I feel like quite the outcast.
>
>Things have changed a lot since I signed back on almost 2 years ago
>now, and I don't feel the urge to really continue on here. I'll sign
>on if I end up coming out to the bay area, but being as most of the
>posts on here are political in nature, and usually just piss me off.
>
>I'm just not feeling it anymore. Something's missing. Hell, I haven't
>lived in the bay area in about 3 1/2 years, and haven't been out to
>visit since early '05.
>
>If you want to get in touch with me directly, feel free to send me an
>email at antitux@gmail.com, or hit me up on aim/yahoo with the sn
>antitux. I've also got myspace and livejournal, but I'll let you find
>those yourselves. Probably won't take too long.
>
>Anyhow guys, Just wanted to say "Hi" and "Bye".
>
>Later kids,
>
>--
>1. Creativity and innovation always builds on the past.
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Subject: [sfraves] has SFR lost relevance?

is this list even a neccessary means of communication for this
community anymore?

discuss.


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Subject: RE: [sfraves] Hey guys..

Posts like this are LETTING THE TERRORISTS WIN

Lol yeah I haven't posted much recently either I've been shifting to more
music based lists, love you guys but there's not a ton of content on here of
late which is .05% my fault or whatever the % is for subscribers.

A

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Van Mundegaarde [mailto:electrofunk138@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 2:29 PM
> To: antitux@gmail.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: [sfraves] Hey guys..
> 
> Sad to see anyone go, but I totally hear you.
> 
> Are Bam , GAMMA & I the only folks that ever post BSP's ???
> 
> How's about party reviews? I know Peter has done that - but apparently one
> can get skewered for even stating their opinion on a party they went to.
> 
> CD reviews??? Does that EVER happen?
> 
> And as far as mix reviews...I have received exactly ONE response about the
> mix I posted last week...so I guess not.
> 
> *sigh*
> 
> Stupid politics are teh ghey.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "John Dee" <antitux@gmail.com>
> >To: SFR <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: [sfraves] Hey guys..
> >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:26:18 -0700
> >
> >I'm gonna sign off of the list for a while. I'm not seeing anything
> >that's really catching my interest on here anymore. Being as most of
> >my views politically and personally are very different than everyone
> >else's, I feel like quite the outcast.
> >
> >Things have changed a lot since I signed back on almost 2 years ago
> >now, and I don't feel the urge to really continue on here. I'll sign
> >on if I end up coming out to the bay area, but being as most of the
> >posts on here are political in nature, and usually just piss me off.
> >
> >I'm just not feeling it anymore. Something's missing. Hell, I haven't
> >lived in the bay area in about 3 1/2 years, and haven't been out to
> >visit since early '05.
> >
> >If you want to get in touch with me directly, feel free to send me an
> >email at antitux@gmail.com, or hit me up on aim/yahoo with the sn
> >antitux. I've also got myspace and livejournal, but I'll let you find
> >those yourselves. Probably won't take too long.
> >
> >Anyhow guys, Just wanted to say "Hi" and "Bye".
> >
> >Later kids,
> >
> >--
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> >2. The past always tries to control the creativity that builds on it.
> >3. Free societies enable the future by living in the past.
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey guys..

Apollo posts some BSPs.

I think a lot of information has migrated over to bay raves, Tribe, and MySpace.  I think some new thinking is in order to attract more peope to this list.

Also, I rarely see house music events posted here.  I guess house is sort of out when it comes to the rave scene now, but there's a pretty vibranty house music scene in San Francisco and for the most part its not promoted here.

I've tried to post non-BSP part announcements, i.e. from flyers I get, in order to make the list a more complete reference for what's happening.  But then again, its sf-raves not sf-clubs.

Anyway...

Isn't everyone at Burning Man?

I thought I was the only person left in San Francisco.

I thought you were going Marco.

Peter

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Subject: RE: [sfraves] Hey guys..

Sad to see anyone go, but I totally hear you.

Are Bam , GAMMA & I the only folks that ever post BSP's ???

How's about party reviews? I know Peter has done that - but apparently one 
can get skewered for even stating their opinion on a party they went to.

CD reviews??? Does that EVER happen?

And as far as mix reviews...I have received exactly ONE response about the 
mix I posted last week...so I guess not.

*sigh*

Stupid politics are teh ghey.




>From: "John Dee" <antitux@gmail.com>
>To: SFR <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: [sfraves] Hey guys..
>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:26:18 -0700
>
>I'm gonna sign off of the list for a while. I'm not seeing anything
>that's really catching my interest on here anymore. Being as most of
>my views politically and personally are very different than everyone
>else's, I feel like quite the outcast.
>
>Things have changed a lot since I signed back on almost 2 years ago
>now, and I don't feel the urge to really continue on here. I'll sign
>on if I end up coming out to the bay area, but being as most of the
>posts on here are political in nature, and usually just piss me off.
>
>I'm just not feeling it anymore. Something's missing. Hell, I haven't
>lived in the bay area in about 3 1/2 years, and haven't been out to
>visit since early '05.
>
>If you want to get in touch with me directly, feel free to send me an
>email at antitux@gmail.com, or hit me up on aim/yahoo with the sn
>antitux. I've also got myspace and livejournal, but I'll let you find
>those yourselves. Probably won't take too long.
>
>Anyhow guys, Just wanted to say "Hi" and "Bye".
>
>Later kids,
>
>--
>1. Creativity and innovation always builds on the past.
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey guys..

Honestly - I *want* to go to BM at SOME point, but by and large I can think 
of a million and one better places to spend a week's vacation than at the 
"playa".

Like -ANYWHERE not in this country for example, lol.

But yea- SFRaves is not enough rave these days. Hopefully the SFRP heads 
will help fix that...some good ides are in the works (as you well know 
Peter!)




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>To: Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>, antitux@gmail.com,  
>sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey guys..
>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:47:00 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Apollo posts some BSPs.
>
>I think a lot of information has migrated over to bay raves, Tribe, and 
>MySpace.  I think some new thinking is in order to attract more peope to 
>this list.
>
>Also, I rarely see house music events posted here.  I guess house is sort 
>of out when it comes to the rave scene now, but there's a pretty vibranty 
>house music scene in San Francisco and for the most part its not promoted 
>here.
>
>I've tried to post non-BSP part announcements, i.e. from flyers I get, in 
>order to make the list a more complete reference for what's happening.  But 
>then again, its sf-raves not sf-clubs.
>
>Anyway...
>
>Isn't everyone at Burning Man?
>
>I thought I was the only person left in San Francisco.
>
>I thought you were going Marco.
>
>Peter
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
>To: antitux@gmail.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 2:29:15 PM
>Subject: RE: [sfraves] Hey guys..
>
>Sad to see anyone go, but I totally hear you.
>
>Are Bam , GAMMA & I the only folks that ever post BSP's ???
>
>How's about party reviews? I know Peter has done that - but apparently one
>can get skewered for even stating their opinion on a party they went to.
>
>CD reviews??? Does that EVER happen?
>
>And as far as mix reviews...I have received exactly ONE response about the
>mix I posted last week...so I guess not.
>
>*sigh*
>
>Stupid politics are teh ghey.
>
>
>
>
> >From: "John Dee" <antitux@gmail.com>
> >To: SFR <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: [sfraves] Hey guys..
> >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:26:18 -0700
> >
> >I'm gonna sign off of the list for a while. I'm not seeing anything
> >that's really catching my interest on here anymore. Being as most of
> >my views politically and personally are very different than everyone
> >else's, I feel like quite the outcast.
> >
> >Things have changed a lot since I signed back on almost 2 years ago
> >now, and I don't feel the urge to really continue on here. I'll sign
> >on if I end up coming out to the bay area, but being as most of the
> >posts on here are political in nature, and usually just piss me off.
> >
> >I'm just not feeling it anymore. Something's missing. Hell, I haven't
> >lived in the bay area in about 3 1/2 years, and haven't been out to
> >visit since early '05.
> >
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> >those yourselves. Probably won't take too long.
> >
> >Anyhow guys, Just wanted to say "Hi" and "Bye".
> >
> >Later kids,
> >
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i think if the majority of people on the SFR list have not attended
more than 4 raves or underground or unpermitted parties with
electronic dance music in 2006...then there is something severly
wrong.

that's only 4 parties in 8 months, but i think i actually believe that
the majority on the list hasn't done that.

shame shame...

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Yeah I dunno. The list is what you make of it really.
And tbh there's only a couple people on here who
actually talk consistently. Maybe more people would
pipe up if they weren't afraid of getting flamed for
differing views or musical tastes.

-Delia

--- Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
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> Sad to see anyone go, but I totally hear you.
> 
> Are Bam , GAMMA & I the only folks that ever post
> BSP's ???
> 
> How's about party reviews? I know Peter has done
> that - but apparently one 
> can get skewered for even stating their opinion on a
> party they went to.
> 
> CD reviews??? Does that EVER happen?
> 
> And as far as mix reviews...I have received exactly
> ONE response about the 
> mix I posted last week...so I guess not.
> 
> *sigh*
> 
> Stupid politics are teh ghey.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "John Dee" <antitux@gmail.com>
> >To: SFR <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: [sfraves] Hey guys..
> >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:26:18 -0700
> >
> >I'm gonna sign off of the list for a while. I'm not
> seeing anything
> >that's really catching my interest on here anymore.
> Being as most of
> >my views politically and personally are very
> different than everyone
> >else's, I feel like quite the outcast.
> >
> >Things have changed a lot since I signed back on
> almost 2 years ago
> >now, and I don't feel the urge to really continue
> on here. I'll sign
> >on if I end up coming out to the bay area, but
> being as most of the
> >posts on here are political in nature, and usually
> just piss me off.
> >
> >I'm just not feeling it anymore. Something's
> missing. Hell, I haven't
> >lived in the bay area in about 3 1/2 years, and
> haven't been out to
> >visit since early '05.
> >
> >If you want to get in touch with me directly, feel
> free to send me an
> >email at antitux@gmail.com, or hit me up on
> aim/yahoo with the sn
> >antitux. I've also got myspace and livejournal, but
> I'll let you find
> >those yourselves. Probably won't take too long.
> >
> >Anyhow guys, Just wanted to say "Hi" and "Bye".
> >
> >Later kids,
> >
> >--
> >1. Creativity and innovation always builds on the
> past.
> >2. The past always tries to control the creativity
> that builds on it.
> >3. Free societies enable the future by living in
> the past.
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> >
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On 8/31/06, Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
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> is this list even a neccessary means of communication for this
> community anymore?
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> discuss.
>
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I got an excuse as to why i havent attended more events.  I may not be there
in person, but i'm always there in spirit...drinking, smoking, yelling,
screaming and most likely getting naked or close to it.

TEAM LUSH CHEERLEADER!!!!!!!

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On 8/31/06, Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> i think if the majority of people on the SFR list have not attended
> more than 4 raves or underground or unpermitted parties with
> electronic dance music in 2006...then there is something severly
> wrong.
>
> that's only 4 parties in 8 months, but i think i actually believe that
> the majority on the list hasn't done that.
>
> shame shame...
>
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Its not necessary anymore I dont think with tribe,
myspace etc. but still nice to have. It's lost its
energy really. As mentioned before few really post
about parties or music, and I think thats why.

my .02

Delia

--- Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:

> is this list even a neccessary means of
> communication for this
> community anymore?
> 
> discuss.
> 
> 
> -- 
> --------------------------
> < Brandon / DJ Bam >
> 
> DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
> http://www.evilbreaks.com
> 
> August 12th:  Obsoleet
> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
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Whatever. Mailing lists are pretty masturbatory at this stage. Well, public
ones anyway.

On 8/31/06, Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
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> i think if the majority of people on the SFR list have not attended
> more than 4 raves or underground or unpermitted parties with
> electronic dance music in 2006...then there is something severly
> wrong.
>
> that's only 4 parties in 8 months, but i think i actually believe that
> the majority on the list hasn't done that.
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> shame shame...
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Well tbh you really don't see undergrounds promoted on
this list too much...they are few and far between.

-D.

--- Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:

> i think if the majority of people on the SFR list
> have not attended
> more than 4 raves or underground or unpermitted
> parties with
> electronic dance music in 2006...then there is
> something severly
> wrong.
> 
> that's only 4 parties in 8 months, but i think i
> actually believe that
> the majority on the list hasn't done that.
> 
> shame shame...
> 
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Why is it that the first people to get naked are always the last people you
want to see naked?

=P

On 8/31/06, Chester Copperpot <chester.copperpot420@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I got an excuse as to why i havent attended more events.  I may not be
> there
> in person, but i'm always there in spirit...drinking, smoking, yelling,
> screaming and most likely getting naked or close to it.
>
> TEAM LUSH CHEERLEADER!!!!!!!
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> On 8/31/06, Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > i think if the majority of people on the SFR list have not attended
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> > wrong.
> >
> > that's only 4 parties in 8 months, but i think i actually believe that
> > the majority on the list hasn't done that.
> >
> > shame shame...
> >
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Subject: RE: [sfraves] Hey guys..

Yea - but then we get into the whole "everything has to be nice and PC" 
issue - and that is lame too.

People just need to get thicker fucking skins.




>From: Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
>To: Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>, antitux@gmail.com,  
>sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: RE: [sfraves] Hey guys..
>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:03:53 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Yeah I dunno. The list is what you make of it really.
>And tbh there's only a couple people on here who
>actually talk consistently. Maybe more people would
>pipe up if they weren't afraid of getting flamed for
>differing views or musical tastes.
>
>-Delia
>
>--- Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
> > Sad to see anyone go, but I totally hear you.
> >
> > Are Bam , GAMMA & I the only folks that ever post
> > BSP's ???
> >
> > How's about party reviews? I know Peter has done
> > that - but apparently one
> > can get skewered for even stating their opinion on a
> > party they went to.
> >
> > CD reviews??? Does that EVER happen?
> >
> > And as far as mix reviews...I have received exactly
> > ONE response about the
> > mix I posted last week...so I guess not.
> >
> > *sigh*
> >
> > Stupid politics are teh ghey.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "John Dee" <antitux@gmail.com>
> > >To: SFR <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> > >Subject: [sfraves] Hey guys..
> > >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:26:18 -0700
> > >
> > >I'm gonna sign off of the list for a while. I'm not
> > seeing anything
> > >that's really catching my interest on here anymore.
> > Being as most of
> > >my views politically and personally are very
> > different than everyone
> > >else's, I feel like quite the outcast.
> > >
> > >Things have changed a lot since I signed back on
> > almost 2 years ago
> > >now, and I don't feel the urge to really continue
> > on here. I'll sign
> > >on if I end up coming out to the bay area, but
> > being as most of the
> > >posts on here are political in nature, and usually
> > just piss me off.
> > >
> > >I'm just not feeling it anymore. Something's
> > missing. Hell, I haven't
> > >lived in the bay area in about 3 1/2 years, and
> > haven't been out to
> > >visit since early '05.
> > >
> > >If you want to get in touch with me directly, feel
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> > aim/yahoo with the sn
> > >antitux. I've also got myspace and livejournal, but
> > I'll let you find
> > >those yourselves. Probably won't take too long.
> > >
> > >Anyhow guys, Just wanted to say "Hi" and "Bye".
> > >
> > >Later kids,
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> > >--
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> > past.
> > >2. The past always tries to control the creativity
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> > >3. Free societies enable the future by living in
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How is that racist? Please explain.

On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or Islamic extremists, terrorism
> is
> just a
> form of fighting similar to guerrilla warfare.</snip>
>
> Racist much?
>
> On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or Islamic extremists, terrorism is
> just
> > a
> > form of fighting similar to guerrilla warfare. Anyone can be a terrorist
> > (Timmothy Mcvay), but the ones we need to concentrate this war on are
> the
> > Islamic fascist types (you know the ones that say they want to kill
> > everyone
> > that isn't muslim). Obviously, this guy was just making a statement with
> > his
> > shirt and was not a threat, just as all the loud UCSF students aren't a
> > threat. That was a nasty breach of his civil rights as an American
> > citizen.
> > So how do we fight the IF's? Profile? Hope they all go to Iraq? What are
> > we
> > to do as citizens that want to protect our country from attacks?
> >
> > So what ever happened to the news about that dude that went GTA with a
> > 5000
> > lbs SUV through Fremont and SF? Wasn't that a terrorist act performed by
> a
> > Muslim? Why no news? Is it because he isn't White? Oh, I see, he had
> > mental
> > issues.... sure, just like that guy that shot all the people in the LA
> > airport that we never heard about also. Funny how all that is covered on
> > the
> > news is about some white girl that died 10 years ago.
> >
> >
> > On 8/31/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Its interesting that this comes to light at the same
> > > time of as this:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/08/30/state/n130540D11.DTL&hw=arabic+shirt&sn=001&sc=1000
> > >
> > > I know that this kind of discrimination has been going
> > > on since 9/11 but its just ridiculous.
> > >
> > > -D.
> > >
> > > --- Max Dykstra <digerati@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/31/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:The
> > > > anti-arab attitudes our
> > > > > government is taking is
> > > > > sickening. It's similar to the Japanese in WWII. I
> > > > > don't think this should be tolerated.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Indeed.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and packing my bongloads!
> > >
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Subject: RE: [sfraves] Hey guys..

True. But there is a way to disagree with someone
while still respecting opinions. But if this was
exercised everywhere, perhaps we would have a better
world hehe

You just can't win I guess.


-D.

--- Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Yea - but then we get into the whole "everything has
> to be nice and PC" 
> issue - and that is lame too.
> 
> People just need to get thicker fucking skins.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
> >To: Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>,
> antitux@gmail.com,  
> >sfraves@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: RE: [sfraves] Hey guys..
> >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:03:53 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Yeah I dunno. The list is what you make of it
> really.
> >And tbh there's only a couple people on here who
> >actually talk consistently. Maybe more people would
> >pipe up if they weren't afraid of getting flamed
> for
> >differing views or musical tastes.
> >
> >-Delia
> >
> >--- Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> > > Sad to see anyone go, but I totally hear you.
> > >
> > > Are Bam , GAMMA & I the only folks that ever
> post
> > > BSP's ???
> > >
> > > How's about party reviews? I know Peter has done
> > > that - but apparently one
> > > can get skewered for even stating their opinion
> on a
> > > party they went to.
> > >
> > > CD reviews??? Does that EVER happen?
> > >
> > > And as far as mix reviews...I have received
> exactly
> > > ONE response about the
> > > mix I posted last week...so I guess not.
> > >
> > > *sigh*
> > >
> > > Stupid politics are teh ghey.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "John Dee" <antitux@gmail.com>
> > > >To: SFR <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> > > >Subject: [sfraves] Hey guys..
> > > >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:26:18 -0700
> > > >
> > > >I'm gonna sign off of the list for a while. I'm
> not
> > > seeing anything
> > > >that's really catching my interest on here
> anymore.
> > > Being as most of
> > > >my views politically and personally are very
> > > different than everyone
> > > >else's, I feel like quite the outcast.
> > > >
> > > >Things have changed a lot since I signed back
> on
> > > almost 2 years ago
> > > >now, and I don't feel the urge to really
> continue
> > > on here. I'll sign
> > > >on if I end up coming out to the bay area, but
> > > being as most of the
> > > >posts on here are political in nature, and
> usually
> > > just piss me off.
> > > >
> > > >I'm just not feeling it anymore. Something's
> > > missing. Hell, I haven't
> > > >lived in the bay area in about 3 1/2 years, and
> > > haven't been out to
> > > >visit since early '05.
> > > >
> > > >If you want to get in touch with me directly,
> feel
> > > free to send me an
> > > >email at antitux@gmail.com, or hit me up on
> > > aim/yahoo with the sn
> > > >antitux. I've also got myspace and livejournal,
> but
> > > I'll let you find
> > > >those yourselves. Probably won't take too long.
> > > >
> > > >Anyhow guys, Just wanted to say "Hi" and "Bye".
> > > >
> > > >Later kids,
> > > >
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> > > past.
> > > >2. The past always tries to control the
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> > > that builds on it.
> > > >3. Free societies enable the future by living
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> > > the past.
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> > > >
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Wow. Just wow.

"Our 'enemy' is the Islamic (read: Arab) 'fascists' or Islamic (read: Arab)
'extremists' . . ."

That's pretty fucking racist, fool. How many white muslims do you know?

Further, read this for an example of how your line of thinking is racist and
has created a police state right here in the good old US of A:

http://pestilence.short-b.us/2006/08/antinazi_slogans_now_offensive.html

On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> How is that racist? Please explain.
>
>
> On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > <snip>Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or Islamic extremists, terrorism
> > is
> > just a
> > form of fighting similar to guerrilla warfare.</snip>
> >
> > Racist much?
> >
> > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or Islamic extremists, terrorism is
> > just
> > > a
> > > form of fighting similar to guerrilla warfare. Anyone can be a
> > terrorist
> > > (Timmothy Mcvay), but the ones we need to concentrate this war on are
> > the
> > > Islamic fascist types (you know the ones that say they want to kill
> > > everyone
> > > that isn't muslim). Obviously, this guy was just making a statement
> > with
> > > his
> > > shirt and was not a threat, just as all the loud UCSF students aren't
> > a
> > > threat. That was a nasty breach of his civil rights as an American
> > > citizen.
> > > So how do we fight the IF's? Profile? Hope they all go to Iraq? What
> > are
> > > we
> > > to do as citizens that want to protect our country from attacks?
> > >
> > > So what ever happened to the news about that dude that went GTA with a
> >
> > > 5000
> > > lbs SUV through Fremont and SF? Wasn't that a terrorist act performed
> > by a
> > > Muslim? Why no news? Is it because he isn't White? Oh, I see, he had
> > > mental
> > > issues.... sure, just like that guy that shot all the people in the LA
> >
> > > airport that we never heard about also. Funny how all that is covered
> > on
> > > the
> > > news is about some white girl that died 10 years ago.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/31/06, Delia < velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Its interesting that this comes to light at the same
> > > > time of as this:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/08/30/state/n130540D11.DTL&hw=arabic+shirt&sn=001&sc=1000
> > > >
> > > > I know that this kind of discrimination has been going
> > > > on since 9/11 but its just ridiculous.
> > > >
> > > > -D.
> > > >
> > > > --- Max Dykstra <digerati@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 8/31/06, Delia < velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:The
> > > > > anti-arab attitudes our
> > > > > > government is taking is
> > > > > > sickening. It's similar to the Japanese in WWII. I
> > > > > > don't think this should be tolerated.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Indeed.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and packing my bongloads!
> >
> > > >
> > > > aim= junglegurlee510
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Everybody wants to see me naked...I know they do.  otherwise why do they
keep asking me to take my clothes off?

Someone should throw a party where everyone is naked, DJ's, Dancers, Drug
Users, everyone...naked!!!

-- 
Chester Copperpot

"Fightin' cancer with one hand."
"Dead people are the new Potatos!"
"Meth Monsters are my Anti-Drug"


On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Why is it that the first people to get naked are always the last people
> you
> want to see naked?
>
> =P
>
> On 8/31/06, Chester Copperpot <chester.copperpot420@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I got an excuse as to why i havent attended more events.  I may not be
> > there
> > in person, but i'm always there in spirit...drinking, smoking, yelling,
> > screaming and most likely getting naked or close to it.
> >
> > TEAM LUSH CHEERLEADER!!!!!!!
> >
> > --
> > Chester Copperpot
> >
> > "Fightin' cancer with one hand."
> > "Dead people are the new Potatos!"
> > "Meth Monsters are my Anti-Drug"
> >
> >
> > On 8/31/06, Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > i think if the majority of people on the SFR list have not attended
> > > more than 4 raves or underground or unpermitted parties with
> > > electronic dance music in 2006...then there is something severly
> > > wrong.
> > >
> > > that's only 4 parties in 8 months, but i think i actually believe that
> > > the majority on the list hasn't done that.
> > >
> > > shame shame...
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and all drugs are taken via the rectum.


On 8/31/06, Chester Copperpot <chester.copperpot420@gmail.com> wrote:
> Everybody wants to see me naked...I know they do.  otherwise why do they
> keep asking me to take my clothes off?
>
> Someone should throw a party where everyone is naked, DJ's, Dancers, Drug
> Users, everyone...naked!!!
>
> --
> Chester Copperpot
>
> "Fightin' cancer with one hand."
> "Dead people are the new Potatos!"
> "Meth Monsters are my Anti-Drug"
>
>
> On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Why is it that the first people to get naked are always the last people
> > you
> > want to see naked?
> >
> > =P
> >
> > On 8/31/06, Chester Copperpot <chester.copperpot420@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I got an excuse as to why i havent attended more events.  I may not be
> > > there
> > > in person, but i'm always there in spirit...drinking, smoking, yelling,
> > > screaming and most likely getting naked or close to it.
> > >
> > > TEAM LUSH CHEERLEADER!!!!!!!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Chester Copperpot
> > >
> > > "Fightin' cancer with one hand."
> > > "Dead people are the new Potatos!"
> > > "Meth Monsters are my Anti-Drug"
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/31/06, Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > i think if the majority of people on the SFR list have not attended
> > > > more than 4 raves or underground or unpermitted parties with
> > > > electronic dance music in 2006...then there is something severly
> > > > wrong.
> > > >
> > > > that's only 4 parties in 8 months, but i think i actually believe that
> > > > the majority on the list hasn't done that.
> > > >
> > > > shame shame...
> > > >
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-- 
--------------------------
< Brandon / DJ Bam >

DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
http://www.evilbreaks.com

August 12th:  Obsoleet
August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's

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Subject: RE: [sfraves] Hey guys..

I dunno - everyone has a diff. perception, so you just cannot please 
everyone all the time. Period.

And why should you have to? Cuz people's feelings might get hurt? WAH. 
Builda bridge and get over it I say.

Lord knows that even despite my most diplomatic attempts, I have been told I 
should just "not cause any trouble" for stating opinions or voicing concerns 
about things. This has applied not just here on SFR, but on Groundscore, 
MySpace, etc.

(of course, I do talk a heap of shit at times, I don't deny that, hehe)

Point is tho - that you can only be so tactful or diplomatic so much of the 
time...there's always gonna be SOMEONE with hurt feelings.




>From: Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
>To: Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>, antitux@gmail.com,  
>sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: RE: [sfraves] Hey guys..
>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:19:59 -0700 (PDT)
>
>True. But there is a way to disagree with someone
>while still respecting opinions. But if this was
>exercised everywhere, perhaps we would have a better
>world hehe
>
>You just can't win I guess.
>
>
>-D.
>
>--- Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
> > Yea - but then we get into the whole "everything has
> > to be nice and PC"
> > issue - and that is lame too.
> >
> > People just need to get thicker fucking skins.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
> > >To: Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>,
> > antitux@gmail.com,
> > >sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > >Subject: RE: [sfraves] Hey guys..
> > >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:03:53 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >Yeah I dunno. The list is what you make of it
> > really.
> > >And tbh there's only a couple people on here who
> > >actually talk consistently. Maybe more people would
> > >pipe up if they weren't afraid of getting flamed
> > for
> > >differing views or musical tastes.
> > >
> > >-Delia
> > >
> > >--- Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sad to see anyone go, but I totally hear you.
> > > >
> > > > Are Bam , GAMMA & I the only folks that ever
> > post
> > > > BSP's ???
> > > >
> > > > How's about party reviews? I know Peter has done
> > > > that - but apparently one
> > > > can get skewered for even stating their opinion
> > on a
> > > > party they went to.
> > > >
> > > > CD reviews??? Does that EVER happen?
> > > >
> > > > And as far as mix reviews...I have received
> > exactly
> > > > ONE response about the
> > > > mix I posted last week...so I guess not.
> > > >
> > > > *sigh*
> > > >
> > > > Stupid politics are teh ghey.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "John Dee" <antitux@gmail.com>
> > > > >To: SFR <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> > > > >Subject: [sfraves] Hey guys..
> > > > >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:26:18 -0700
> > > > >
> > > > >I'm gonna sign off of the list for a while. I'm
> > not
> > > > seeing anything
> > > > >that's really catching my interest on here
> > anymore.
> > > > Being as most of
> > > > >my views politically and personally are very
> > > > different than everyone
> > > > >else's, I feel like quite the outcast.
> > > > >
> > > > >Things have changed a lot since I signed back
> > on
> > > > almost 2 years ago
> > > > >now, and I don't feel the urge to really
> > continue
> > > > on here. I'll sign
> > > > >on if I end up coming out to the bay area, but
> > > > being as most of the
> > > > >posts on here are political in nature, and
> > usually
> > > > just piss me off.
> > > > >
> > > > >I'm just not feeling it anymore. Something's
> > > > missing. Hell, I haven't
> > > > >lived in the bay area in about 3 1/2 years, and
> > > > haven't been out to
> > > > >visit since early '05.
> > > > >
> > > > >If you want to get in touch with me directly,
> > feel
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> > > > >antitux. I've also got myspace and livejournal,
> > but
> > > > I'll let you find
> > > > >those yourselves. Probably won't take too long.
> > > > >
> > > > >Anyhow guys, Just wanted to say "Hi" and "Bye".
> > > > >
> > > > >Later kids,
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey guys..

Yes i think thats exactly what this list sorely needs
and is craving...more nakey people. Just the thing to
revitalize it. bahahahaha

-D.

--- Chester Copperpot <chester.copperpot420@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Everybody wants to see me naked...I know they do. 
> otherwise why do they
> keep asking me to take my clothes off?
> 
> Someone should throw a party where everyone is
> naked, DJ's, Dancers, Drug
> Users, everyone...naked!!!
> 
> -- 
> Chester Copperpot
> 
> "Fightin' cancer with one hand."
> "Dead people are the new Potatos!"
> "Meth Monsters are my Anti-Drug"
> 
> 
> On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Why is it that the first people to get naked are
> always the last people
> > you
> > want to see naked?
> >
> > =P
> >
> > On 8/31/06, Chester Copperpot
> <chester.copperpot420@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I got an excuse as to why i havent attended more
> events.  I may not be
> > > there
> > > in person, but i'm always there in
> spirit...drinking, smoking, yelling,
> > > screaming and most likely getting naked or close
> to it.
> > >
> > > TEAM LUSH CHEERLEADER!!!!!!!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Chester Copperpot
> > >
> > > "Fightin' cancer with one hand."
> > > "Dead people are the new Potatos!"
> > > "Meth Monsters are my Anti-Drug"
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/31/06, Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > i think if the majority of people on the SFR
> list have not attended
> > > > more than 4 raves or underground or
> unpermitted parties with
> > > > electronic dance music in 2006...then there is
> something severly
> > > > wrong.
> > > >
> > > > that's only 4 parties in 8 months, but i think
> i actually believe that
> > > > the majority on the list hasn't done that.
> > > >
> > > > shame shame...
> > > >
> > > >
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey guys..

I dunno - I've seen you naked like a dozen times...it was cool the 1st 
couple...and that one time there were carrots and mazola involved, but like, 
all in all - "eh". ;)




>From: "Chester Copperpot" <chester.copperpot420@gmail.com>
>To: "Alex Laughlin-Dendy" <aldendy@gmail.com>
>CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey guys..
>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:23:16 -0700
>
>Everybody wants to see me naked...I know they do.  otherwise why do they
>keep asking me to take my clothes off?
>
>Someone should throw a party where everyone is naked, DJ's, Dancers, Drug
>Users, everyone...naked!!!
>
>--
>Chester Copperpot
>
>"Fightin' cancer with one hand."
>"Dead people are the new Potatos!"
>"Meth Monsters are my Anti-Drug"
>
>
>On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Why is it that the first people to get naked are always the last people
>>you
>>want to see naked?
>>
>>=P
>>
>>On 8/31/06, Chester Copperpot <chester.copperpot420@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I got an excuse as to why i havent attended more events.  I may not be
>> > there
>> > in person, but i'm always there in spirit...drinking, smoking, yelling,
>> > screaming and most likely getting naked or close to it.
>> >
>> > TEAM LUSH CHEERLEADER!!!!!!!
>> >
>> > --
>> > Chester Copperpot
>> >
>> > "Fightin' cancer with one hand."
>> > "Dead people are the new Potatos!"
>> > "Meth Monsters are my Anti-Drug"
>> >
>> >
>> > On 8/31/06, Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > i think if the majority of people on the SFR list have not attended
>> > > more than 4 raves or underground or unpermitted parties with
>> > > electronic dance music in 2006...then there is something severly
>> > > wrong.
>> > >
>> > > that's only 4 parties in 8 months, but i think i actually believe 
>>that
>> > > the majority on the list hasn't done that.
>> > >
>> > > shame shame...
>> > >
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>>
>>

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Although I don't go to public parties much (no money nor time), I do attend
personal raves in my head at least three times a week. These raves usually
occur in front of my turntables with myself dancing to my own mixes or with
headphones on laying in bed in the dark exploring the inner rave in my head.

No, this list is still valid.

Listen up everyone! we have been just informed
That there's an unknown virus that's attacking all clubs
Symptoms have been said to be - heavy breathing
Wild dancing, coughing
So when you hear the sound - WHO-DI-WHOOOO!
Run for cover MUTHAFUCKA!

On 8/31/06, Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yea - but then we get into the whole "everything has to be nice and PC"
> issue - and that is lame too.
>
> People just need to get thicker fucking skins.
>
>
>
>
> >From: Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
> >To: Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>, antitux@gmail.com,
> >sfraves@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: RE: [sfraves] Hey guys..
> >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:03:53 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Yeah I dunno. The list is what you make of it really.
> >And tbh there's only a couple people on here who
> >actually talk consistently. Maybe more people would
> >pipe up if they weren't afraid of getting flamed for
> >differing views or musical tastes.
> >
> >-Delia
> >
> >--- Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> > > Sad to see anyone go, but I totally hear you.
> > >
> > > Are Bam , GAMMA & I the only folks that ever post
> > > BSP's ???
> > >
> > > How's about party reviews? I know Peter has done
> > > that - but apparently one
> > > can get skewered for even stating their opinion on a
> > > party they went to.
> > >
> > > CD reviews??? Does that EVER happen?
> > >
> > > And as far as mix reviews...I have received exactly
> > > ONE response about the
> > > mix I posted last week...so I guess not.
> > >
> > > *sigh*
> > >
> > > Stupid politics are teh ghey.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "John Dee" <antitux@gmail.com>
> > > >To: SFR <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> > > >Subject: [sfraves] Hey guys..
> > > >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:26:18 -0700
> > > >
> > > >I'm gonna sign off of the list for a while. I'm not
> > > seeing anything
> > > >that's really catching my interest on here anymore.
> > > Being as most of
> > > >my views politically and personally are very
> > > different than everyone
> > > >else's, I feel like quite the outcast.
> > > >
> > > >Things have changed a lot since I signed back on
> > > almost 2 years ago
> > > >now, and I don't feel the urge to really continue
> > > on here. I'll sign
> > > >on if I end up coming out to the bay area, but
> > > being as most of the
> > > >posts on here are political in nature, and usually
> > > just piss me off.
> > > >
> > > >I'm just not feeling it anymore. Something's
> > > missing. Hell, I haven't
> > > >lived in the bay area in about 3 1/2 years, and
> > > haven't been out to
> > > >visit since early '05.
> > > >
> > > >If you want to get in touch with me directly, feel
> > > free to send me an
> > > >email at antitux@gmail.com, or hit me up on
> > > aim/yahoo with the sn
> > > >antitux. I've also got myspace and livejournal, but
> > > I'll let you find
> > > >those yourselves. Probably won't take too long.
> > > >
> > > >Anyhow guys, Just wanted to say "Hi" and "Bye".
> > > >
> > > >Later kids,
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >1. Creativity and innovation always builds on the
> > > past.
> > > >2. The past always tries to control the creativity
> > > that builds on it.
> > > >3. Free societies enable the future by living in
> > > the past.
> > > >4. Ours is a less and less a free society
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LMFAO lets not get on this debate again please. What
was it last time...drinking pee to get high? LOL

-D.

--- Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:

> and all drugs are taken via the rectum.
> 
> 
> On 8/31/06, Chester Copperpot
> <chester.copperpot420@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Everybody wants to see me naked...I know they do. 
> otherwise why do they
> > keep asking me to take my clothes off?
> >
> > Someone should throw a party where everyone is
> naked, DJ's, Dancers, Drug
> > Users, everyone...naked!!!
> >
> > --
> > Chester Copperpot
> >
> > "Fightin' cancer with one hand."
> > "Dead people are the new Potatos!"
> > "Meth Monsters are my Anti-Drug"
> >
> >
> > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy
> <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Why is it that the first people to get naked are
> always the last people
> > > you
> > > want to see naked?
> > >
> > > =P
> > >
> > > On 8/31/06, Chester Copperpot
> <chester.copperpot420@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I got an excuse as to why i havent attended
> more events.  I may not be
> > > > there
> > > > in person, but i'm always there in
> spirit...drinking, smoking, yelling,
> > > > screaming and most likely getting naked or
> close to it.
> > > >
> > > > TEAM LUSH CHEERLEADER!!!!!!!
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Chester Copperpot
> > > >
> > > > "Fightin' cancer with one hand."
> > > > "Dead people are the new Potatos!"
> > > > "Meth Monsters are my Anti-Drug"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 8/31/06, Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > i think if the majority of people on the SFR
> list have not attended
> > > > > more than 4 raves or underground or
> unpermitted parties with
> > > > > electronic dance music in 2006...then there
> is something severly
> > > > > wrong.
> > > > >
> > > > > that's only 4 parties in 8 months, but i
> think i actually believe that
> > > > > the majority on the list hasn't done that.
> > > > >
> > > > > shame shame...
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > >
> >
> >
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> 
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> 
> Lord knows that even despite my most diplomatic
> attempts, I have been told I 
> should just "not cause any trouble" for stating
> opinions or voicing concerns 
> about things. This has applied not just here on SFR,
> but on Groundscore, 
> MySpace, etc.


hehe...thats cuz ur a princess marco :P *flicks your
tiara*

-D.

--- Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> I dunno - everyone has a diff. perception, so you
> just cannot please 
> everyone all the time. Period.
> 
> And why should you have to? Cuz people's feelings
> might get hurt? WAH. 
> Builda bridge and get over it I say.
> 
> Lord knows that even despite my most diplomatic
> attempts, I have been told I 
> should just "not cause any trouble" for stating
> opinions or voicing concerns 
> about things. This has applied not just here on SFR,
> but on Groundscore, 
> MySpace, etc.
> 
> (of course, I do talk a heap of shit at times, I
> don't deny that, hehe)
> 
> Point is tho - that you can only be so tactful or
> diplomatic so much of the 
> time...there's always gonna be SOMEONE with hurt
> feelings.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
> >To: Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>,
> antitux@gmail.com,  
> >sfraves@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: RE: [sfraves] Hey guys..
> >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:19:59 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >True. But there is a way to disagree with someone
> >while still respecting opinions. But if this was
> >exercised everywhere, perhaps we would have a
> better
> >world hehe
> >
> >You just can't win I guess.
> >
> >
> >-D.
> >
> >--- Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> > > Yea - but then we get into the whole "everything
> has
> > > to be nice and PC"
> > > issue - and that is lame too.
> > >
> > > People just need to get thicker fucking skins.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
> > > >To: Van Mundegaarde
> <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>,
> > > antitux@gmail.com,
> > > >sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > > >Subject: RE: [sfraves] Hey guys..
> > > >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:03:53 -0700 (PDT)
> > > >
> > > >Yeah I dunno. The list is what you make of it
> > > really.
> > > >And tbh there's only a couple people on here
> who
> > > >actually talk consistently. Maybe more people
> would
> > > >pipe up if they weren't afraid of getting
> flamed
> > > for
> > > >differing views or musical tastes.
> > > >
> > > >-Delia
> > > >
> > > >--- Van Mundegaarde
> <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
> > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Sad to see anyone go, but I totally hear
> you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are Bam , GAMMA & I the only folks that ever
> > > post
> > > > > BSP's ???
> > > > >
> > > > > How's about party reviews? I know Peter has
> done
> > > > > that - but apparently one
> > > > > can get skewered for even stating their
> opinion
> > > on a
> > > > > party they went to.
> > > > >
> > > > > CD reviews??? Does that EVER happen?
> > > > >
> > > > > And as far as mix reviews...I have received
> > > exactly
> > > > > ONE response about the
> > > > > mix I posted last week...so I guess not.
> > > > >
> > > > > *sigh*
> > > > >
> > > > > Stupid politics are teh ghey.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "John Dee" <antitux@gmail.com>
> > > > > >To: SFR <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> > > > > >Subject: [sfraves] Hey guys..
> > > > > >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:26:18 -0700
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I'm gonna sign off of the list for a while.
> I'm
> > > not
> > > > > seeing anything
> > > > > >that's really catching my interest on here
> > > anymore.
> > > > > Being as most of
> > > > > >my views politically and personally are
> very
> > > > > different than everyone
> > > > > >else's, I feel like quite the outcast.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Things have changed a lot since I signed
> back
> > > on
> > > > > almost 2 years ago
> > > > > >now, and I don't feel the urge to really
> > > continue
> > > > > on here. I'll sign
> > > > > >on if I end up coming out to the bay area,
> but
> > > > > being as most of the
> > > > > >posts on here are political in nature, and
> > > usually
> > > > > just piss me off.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I'm just not feeling it anymore.
> Something's
> > > > > missing. Hell, I haven't
> > > > > >lived in the bay area in about 3 1/2 years,
> and
> > > > > haven't been out to
> > > > > >visit since early '05.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >If you want to get in touch with me
> directly,
> > > feel
> > > > > free to send me an
> > > > > >email at antitux@gmail.com, or hit me up on
> > > > > aim/yahoo with the sn
> > > > > >antitux. I've also got myspace and
> livejournal,
> > > but
> > > > > I'll let you find
> > > > > >those yourselves. Probably won't take too
> long.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Anyhow guys, Just wanted to say "Hi" and
> "Bye".
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Later kids,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--
> > > > > >1. Creativity and innovation always builds
> on
> > > the
> > > > > past.
> > > > > >2. The past always tries to control the
> > > creativity
> > > > > that builds on it.
> > > > > >3. Free societies enable the future by
> living
> > > in
> > > > > the past.
> > > > > >4. Ours is a less and less a free society
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
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Le RAWR! ;)




>From: Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
>To: Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>, antitux@gmail.com,  
>sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: RE: [sfraves] Hey guys..
>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:29:13 -0700 (PDT)
>
> >
> > Lord knows that even despite my most diplomatic
> > attempts, I have been told I
> > should just "not cause any trouble" for stating
> > opinions or voicing concerns
> > about things. This has applied not just here on SFR,
> > but on Groundscore,
> > MySpace, etc.
>
>
>hehe...thats cuz ur a princess marco :P *flicks your
>tiara*
>
>-D.
>
>--- Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
> > I dunno - everyone has a diff. perception, so you
> > just cannot please
> > everyone all the time. Period.
> >
> > And why should you have to? Cuz people's feelings
> > might get hurt? WAH.
> > Builda bridge and get over it I say.
> >
> > Lord knows that even despite my most diplomatic
> > attempts, I have been told I
> > should just "not cause any trouble" for stating
> > opinions or voicing concerns
> > about things. This has applied not just here on SFR,
> > but on Groundscore,
> > MySpace, etc.
> >
> > (of course, I do talk a heap of shit at times, I
> > don't deny that, hehe)
> >
> > Point is tho - that you can only be so tactful or
> > diplomatic so much of the
> > time...there's always gonna be SOMEONE with hurt
> > feelings.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
> > >To: Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>,
> > antitux@gmail.com,
> > >sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > >Subject: RE: [sfraves] Hey guys..
> > >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:19:59 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >True. But there is a way to disagree with someone
> > >while still respecting opinions. But if this was
> > >exercised everywhere, perhaps we would have a
> > better
> > >world hehe
> > >
> > >You just can't win I guess.
> > >
> > >
> > >-D.
> > >
> > >--- Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yea - but then we get into the whole "everything
> > has
> > > > to be nice and PC"
> > > > issue - and that is lame too.
> > > >
> > > > People just need to get thicker fucking skins.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
> > > > >To: Van Mundegaarde
> > <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>,
> > > > antitux@gmail.com,
> > > > >sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > > > >Subject: RE: [sfraves] Hey guys..
> > > > >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:03:53 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > >
> > > > >Yeah I dunno. The list is what you make of it
> > > > really.
> > > > >And tbh there's only a couple people on here
> > who
> > > > >actually talk consistently. Maybe more people
> > would
> > > > >pipe up if they weren't afraid of getting
> > flamed
> > > > for
> > > > >differing views or musical tastes.
> > > > >
> > > > >-Delia
> > > > >
> > > > >--- Van Mundegaarde
> > <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Sad to see anyone go, but I totally hear
> > you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are Bam , GAMMA & I the only folks that ever
> > > > post
> > > > > > BSP's ???
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How's about party reviews? I know Peter has
> > done
> > > > > > that - but apparently one
> > > > > > can get skewered for even stating their
> > opinion
> > > > on a
> > > > > > party they went to.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > CD reviews??? Does that EVER happen?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And as far as mix reviews...I have received
> > > > exactly
> > > > > > ONE response about the
> > > > > > mix I posted last week...so I guess not.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *sigh*
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Stupid politics are teh ghey.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: "John Dee" <antitux@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >To: SFR <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> > > > > > >Subject: [sfraves] Hey guys..
> > > > > > >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:26:18 -0700
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I'm gonna sign off of the list for a while.
> > I'm
> > > > not
> > > > > > seeing anything
> > > > > > >that's really catching my interest on here
> > > > anymore.
> > > > > > Being as most of
> > > > > > >my views politically and personally are
> > very
> > > > > > different than everyone
> > > > > > >else's, I feel like quite the outcast.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Things have changed a lot since I signed
> > back
> > > > on
> > > > > > almost 2 years ago
> > > > > > >now, and I don't feel the urge to really
> > > > continue
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey guys..

Yeah we haven't had any homoeroticism in a long time.
Osby? Danny? :P

-D.

--- Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> I dunno - I've seen you naked like a dozen
> times...it was cool the 1st 
> couple...and that one time there were carrots and
> mazola involved, but like, 
> all in all - "eh". ;)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Chester Copperpot"
> <chester.copperpot420@gmail.com>
> >To: "Alex Laughlin-Dendy" <aldendy@gmail.com>
> >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey guys..
> >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:23:16 -0700
> >
> >Everybody wants to see me naked...I know they do. 
> otherwise why do they
> >keep asking me to take my clothes off?
> >
> >Someone should throw a party where everyone is
> naked, DJ's, Dancers, Drug
> >Users, everyone...naked!!!
> >
> >--
> >Chester Copperpot
> >
> >"Fightin' cancer with one hand."
> >"Dead people are the new Potatos!"
> >"Meth Monsters are my Anti-Drug"
> >
> >
> >On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>Why is it that the first people to get naked are
> always the last people
> >>you
> >>want to see naked?
> >>
> >>=P
> >>
> >>On 8/31/06, Chester Copperpot
> <chester.copperpot420@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I got an excuse as to why i havent attended
> more events.  I may not be
> >> > there
> >> > in person, but i'm always there in
> spirit...drinking, smoking, yelling,
> >> > screaming and most likely getting naked or
> close to it.
> >> >
> >> > TEAM LUSH CHEERLEADER!!!!!!!
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Chester Copperpot
> >> >
> >> > "Fightin' cancer with one hand."
> >> > "Dead people are the new Potatos!"
> >> > "Meth Monsters are my Anti-Drug"
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 8/31/06, Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > i think if the majority of people on the SFR
> list have not attended
> >> > > more than 4 raves or underground or
> unpermitted parties with
> >> > > electronic dance music in 2006...then there
> is something severly
> >> > > wrong.
> >> > >
> >> > > that's only 4 parties in 8 months, but i
> think i actually believe 
> >>that
> >> > > the majority on the list hasn't done that.
> >> > >
> >> > > shame shame...
> >> > >
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey guys..

Oh just wait till my hetero-lifemate moves out here in February ;)





>From: Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
>To: Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>,  
>chester.copperpot420@gmail.com, aldendy@gmail.com
>CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey guys..
>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:35:28 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Yeah we haven't had any homoeroticism in a long time.
>Osby? Danny? :P
>
>-D.
>
>--- Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
> > I dunno - I've seen you naked like a dozen
> > times...it was cool the 1st
> > couple...and that one time there were carrots and
> > mazola involved, but like,
> > all in all - "eh". ;)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Chester Copperpot"
> > <chester.copperpot420@gmail.com>
> > >To: "Alex Laughlin-Dendy" <aldendy@gmail.com>
> > >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > >Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey guys..
> > >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:23:16 -0700
> > >
> > >Everybody wants to see me naked...I know they do.
> > otherwise why do they
> > >keep asking me to take my clothes off?
> > >
> > >Someone should throw a party where everyone is
> > naked, DJ's, Dancers, Drug
> > >Users, everyone...naked!!!
> > >
> > >--
> > >Chester Copperpot
> > >
> > >"Fightin' cancer with one hand."
> > >"Dead people are the new Potatos!"
> > >"Meth Monsters are my Anti-Drug"
> > >
> > >
> > >On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>Why is it that the first people to get naked are
> > always the last people
> > >>you
> > >>want to see naked?
> > >>
> > >>=P
> > >>
> > >>On 8/31/06, Chester Copperpot
> > <chester.copperpot420@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > I got an excuse as to why i havent attended
> > more events.  I may not be
> > >> > there
> > >> > in person, but i'm always there in
> > spirit...drinking, smoking, yelling,
> > >> > screaming and most likely getting naked or
> > close to it.
> > >> >
> > >> > TEAM LUSH CHEERLEADER!!!!!!!
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Chester Copperpot
> > >> >
> > >> > "Fightin' cancer with one hand."
> > >> > "Dead people are the new Potatos!"
> > >> > "Meth Monsters are my Anti-Drug"
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On 8/31/06, Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > i think if the majority of people on the SFR
> > list have not attended
> > >> > > more than 4 raves or underground or
> > unpermitted parties with
> > >> > > electronic dance music in 2006...then there
> > is something severly
> > >> > > wrong.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > that's only 4 parties in 8 months, but i
> > think i actually believe
> > >>that
> > >> > > the majority on the list hasn't done that.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > shame shame...
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
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MORE TIP-TO-TIPS PLZ KTHX<3

Hetero? I said HOMO! yay homos<3<3<3

-D.

--- Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Oh just wait till my hetero-lifemate moves out here
> in February ;)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
> >To: Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>,  
> >chester.copperpot420@gmail.com, aldendy@gmail.com
> >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey guys..
> >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:35:28 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Yeah we haven't had any homoeroticism in a long
> time.
> >Osby? Danny? :P
> >
> >-D.
> >
> >--- Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> > > I dunno - I've seen you naked like a dozen
> > > times...it was cool the 1st
> > > couple...and that one time there were carrots
> and
> > > mazola involved, but like,
> > > all in all - "eh". ;)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Chester Copperpot"
> > > <chester.copperpot420@gmail.com>
> > > >To: "Alex Laughlin-Dendy" <aldendy@gmail.com>
> > > >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > > >Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey guys..
> > > >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:23:16 -0700
> > > >
> > > >Everybody wants to see me naked...I know they
> do.
> > > otherwise why do they
> > > >keep asking me to take my clothes off?
> > > >
> > > >Someone should throw a party where everyone is
> > > naked, DJ's, Dancers, Drug
> > > >Users, everyone...naked!!!
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >Chester Copperpot
> > > >
> > > >"Fightin' cancer with one hand."
> > > >"Dead people are the new Potatos!"
> > > >"Meth Monsters are my Anti-Drug"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy
> <aldendy@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>Why is it that the first people to get naked
> are
> > > always the last people
> > > >>you
> > > >>want to see naked?
> > > >>
> > > >>=P
> > > >>
> > > >>On 8/31/06, Chester Copperpot
> > > <chester.copperpot420@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I got an excuse as to why i havent attended
> > > more events.  I may not be
> > > >> > there
> > > >> > in person, but i'm always there in
> > > spirit...drinking, smoking, yelling,
> > > >> > screaming and most likely getting naked or
> > > close to it.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > TEAM LUSH CHEERLEADER!!!!!!!
> > > >> >
> > > >> > --
> > > >> > Chester Copperpot
> > > >> >
> > > >> > "Fightin' cancer with one hand."
> > > >> > "Dead people are the new Potatos!"
> > > >> > "Meth Monsters are my Anti-Drug"
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On 8/31/06, Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > i think if the majority of people on the
> SFR
> > > list have not attended
> > > >> > > more than 4 raves or underground or
> > > unpermitted parties with
> > > >> > > electronic dance music in 2006...then
> there
> > > is something severly
> > > >> > > wrong.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > that's only 4 parties in 8 months, but i
> > > think i actually believe
> > > >>that
> > > >> > > the majority on the list hasn't done
> that.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > shame shame...
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > >
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Well, I still do not see how it is racist. Maybe 99% of Islamic
Fascist people just happen to be of Arab decent, but that doesn't have
anything to do with the fact that we are at war with them.

I bet 99% of catholic preists that sexually abused kids are white and I
think they need to be prosecuted, is that racist also? Do you get my point
here? Just because a group happens to be of one race does not mean one is
racist for wanting to protect themselves against them.




On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Wow. Just wow.
>
> "Our 'enemy' is the Islamic (read: Arab) 'fascists' or Islamic (read:
> Arab)
> 'extremists' . . ."
>
> That's pretty fucking racist, fool. How many white muslims do you know?
>
> Further, read this for an example of how your line of thinking is racist
> and
> has created a police state right here in the good old US of A:
>
> http://pestilence.short-b.us/2006/08/antinazi_slogans_now_offensive.html
>
> On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen < sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > How is that racist? Please explain.
> >
> >
> > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip>Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or Islamic extremists,
> terrorism
> > > is
> > > just a
> > > form of fighting similar to guerrilla warfare.</snip>
> > >
> > > Racist much?
> > >
> > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or Islamic extremists, terrorism
> is
> > > just
> > > > a
> > > > form of fighting similar to guerrilla warfare. Anyone can be a
> > > terrorist
> > > > (Timmothy Mcvay), but the ones we need to concentrate this war on
> are
> > > the
> > > > Islamic fascist types (you know the ones that say they want to kill
> > > > everyone
> > > > that isn't muslim). Obviously, this guy was just making a statement
> > > with
> > > > his
> > > > shirt and was not a threat, just as all the loud UCSF students
> aren't
> > > a
> > > > threat. That was a nasty breach of his civil rights as an American
> > > > citizen.
> > > > So how do we fight the IF's? Profile? Hope they all go to Iraq? What
> > > are
> > > > we
> > > > to do as citizens that want to protect our country from attacks?
> > > >
> > > > So what ever happened to the news about that dude that went GTA with
> a
> > >
> > > > 5000
> > > > lbs SUV through Fremont and SF? Wasn't that a terrorist act
> performed
> > > by a
> > > > Muslim? Why no news? Is it because he isn't White? Oh, I see, he had
> > > > mental
> > > > issues.... sure, just like that guy that shot all the people in the
> LA
> > >
> > > > airport that we never heard about also. Funny how all that is
> covered
> > > on
> > > > the
> > > > news is about some white girl that died 10 years ago.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 8/31/06, Delia < velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Its interesting that this comes to light at the same
> > > > > time of as this:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/08/30/state/n130540D11.DTL&hw=arabic+shirt&sn=001&sc=1000
>
> > > > >
> > > > > I know that this kind of discrimination has been going
> > > > > on since 9/11 but its just ridiculous.
> > > > >
> > > > > -D.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Max Dykstra <digerati@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Delia < velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:The
> > > > > > anti-arab attitudes our
> > > > > > > government is taking is
> > > > > > > sickening. It's similar to the Japanese in WWII. I
> > > > > > > don't think this should be tolerated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Indeed.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and packing my
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Don't downplay our love! You hater!

lol




>From: Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
>To: Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>,  
>chester.copperpot420@gmail.com, aldendy@gmail.com
>CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey guys..
>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:39:24 -0700 (PDT)
>
>MORE TIP-TO-TIPS PLZ KTHX<3
>
>Hetero? I said HOMO! yay homos<3<3<3
>
>-D.
>
>--- Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
> > Oh just wait till my hetero-lifemate moves out here
> > in February ;)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
> > >To: Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>,
> > >chester.copperpot420@gmail.com, aldendy@gmail.com
> > >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > >Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey guys..
> > >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:35:28 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >Yeah we haven't had any homoeroticism in a long
> > time.
> > >Osby? Danny? :P
> > >
> > >-D.
> > >
> > >--- Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > I dunno - I've seen you naked like a dozen
> > > > times...it was cool the 1st
> > > > couple...and that one time there were carrots
> > and
> > > > mazola involved, but like,
> > > > all in all - "eh". ;)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Chester Copperpot"
> > > > <chester.copperpot420@gmail.com>
> > > > >To: "Alex Laughlin-Dendy" <aldendy@gmail.com>
> > > > >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > > > >Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey guys..
> > > > >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:23:16 -0700
> > > > >
> > > > >Everybody wants to see me naked...I know they
> > do.
> > > > otherwise why do they
> > > > >keep asking me to take my clothes off?
> > > > >
> > > > >Someone should throw a party where everyone is
> > > > naked, DJ's, Dancers, Drug
> > > > >Users, everyone...naked!!!
> > > > >
> > > > >--
> > > > >Chester Copperpot
> > > > >
> > > > >"Fightin' cancer with one hand."
> > > > >"Dead people are the new Potatos!"
> > > > >"Meth Monsters are my Anti-Drug"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy
> > <aldendy@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Why is it that the first people to get naked
> > are
> > > > always the last people
> > > > >>you
> > > > >>want to see naked?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>=P
> > > > >>
> > > > >>On 8/31/06, Chester Copperpot
> > > > <chester.copperpot420@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I got an excuse as to why i havent attended
> > > > more events.  I may not be
> > > > >> > there
> > > > >> > in person, but i'm always there in
> > > > spirit...drinking, smoking, yelling,
> > > > >> > screaming and most likely getting naked or
> > > > close to it.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > TEAM LUSH CHEERLEADER!!!!!!!
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > --
> > > > >> > Chester Copperpot
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > "Fightin' cancer with one hand."
> > > > >> > "Dead people are the new Potatos!"
> > > > >> > "Meth Monsters are my Anti-Drug"
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On 8/31/06, Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > i think if the majority of people on the
> > SFR
> > > > list have not attended
> > > > >> > > more than 4 raves or underground or
> > > > unpermitted parties with
> > > > >> > > electronic dance music in 2006...then
> > there
> > > > is something severly
> > > > >> > > wrong.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > that's only 4 parties in 8 months, but i
> > > > think i actually believe
> > > > >>that
> > > > >> > > the majority on the list hasn't done
> > that.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > shame shame...
> > > > >> > >
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Terrorists "drive taxi cabs in the daytime and kill at night"

You're applying your narrow views of what a terrorist is to a specific 
race/nationality type. That's racism buddy!

If you look up the definition of a terrorist in the dictionary, I'm sure it 
doesn't specify a race.

Just sayin'...



>From: "Steve Osteen" <sosteen@gmail.com>
>To: "Alex Laughlin-Dendy" <aldendy@gmail.com>
>CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Terrorists "drive taxi cabs in the daytime and 
>kill at night"
>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:42:39 -0700
>
>Well, I still do not see how it is racist. Maybe 99% of Islamic
>Fascist people just happen to be of Arab decent, but that doesn't have
>anything to do with the fact that we are at war with them.
>
>I bet 99% of catholic preists that sexually abused kids are white and I
>think they need to be prosecuted, is that racist also? Do you get my point
>here? Just because a group happens to be of one race does not mean one is
>racist for wanting to protect themselves against them.
>
>
>
>
>On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Wow. Just wow.
>>
>>"Our 'enemy' is the Islamic (read: Arab) 'fascists' or Islamic (read:
>>Arab)
>>'extremists' . . ."
>>
>>That's pretty fucking racist, fool. How many white muslims do you know?
>>
>>Further, read this for an example of how your line of thinking is racist
>>and
>>has created a police state right here in the good old US of A:
>>
>>http://pestilence.short-b.us/2006/08/antinazi_slogans_now_offensive.html
>>
>>On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen < sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > How is that racist? Please explain.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > <snip>Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or Islamic extremists,
>>terrorism
>> > > is
>> > > just a
>> > > form of fighting similar to guerrilla warfare.</snip>
>> > >
>> > > Racist much?
>> > >
>> > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or Islamic extremists, terrorism
>>is
>> > > just
>> > > > a
>> > > > form of fighting similar to guerrilla warfare. Anyone can be a
>> > > terrorist
>> > > > (Timmothy Mcvay), but the ones we need to concentrate this war on
>>are
>> > > the
>> > > > Islamic fascist types (you know the ones that say they want to kill
>> > > > everyone
>> > > > that isn't muslim). Obviously, this guy was just making a statement
>> > > with
>> > > > his
>> > > > shirt and was not a threat, just as all the loud UCSF students
>>aren't
>> > > a
>> > > > threat. That was a nasty breach of his civil rights as an American
>> > > > citizen.
>> > > > So how do we fight the IF's? Profile? Hope they all go to Iraq? 
>>What
>> > > are
>> > > > we
>> > > > to do as citizens that want to protect our country from attacks?
>> > > >
>> > > > So what ever happened to the news about that dude that went GTA 
>>with
>>a
>> > >
>> > > > 5000
>> > > > lbs SUV through Fremont and SF? Wasn't that a terrorist act
>>performed
>> > > by a
>> > > > Muslim? Why no news? Is it because he isn't White? Oh, I see, he 
>>had
>> > > > mental
>> > > > issues.... sure, just like that guy that shot all the people in the
>>LA
>> > >
>> > > > airport that we never heard about also. Funny how all that is
>>covered
>> > > on
>> > > > the
>> > > > news is about some white girl that died 10 years ago.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On 8/31/06, Delia < velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Its interesting that this comes to light at the same
>> > > > > time of as this:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > 
>>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/08/30/state/n130540D11.DTL&hw=arabic+shirt&sn=001&sc=1000
>>
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I know that this kind of discrimination has been going
>> > > > > on since 9/11 but its just ridiculous.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -D.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --- Max Dykstra <digerati@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Delia < velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:The
>> > > > > > anti-arab attitudes our
>> > > > > > > government is taking is
>> > > > > > > sickening. It's similar to the Japanese in WWII. I
>> > > > > > > don't think this should be tolerated.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Indeed.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and packing my
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"We are at war with them!?!?!"

ARE YOU FUCKING INSANE?

Maybe *you* are at war with them, but as far as I'm concerned there is no
'them' to be at war with.

This is the basis of racism. I can't say that I'm surprised you don't see
it. You being known for a particularly virulent form of facist ignorance.

On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Well, I still do not see how it is racist. Maybe 99% of Islamic
> Fascist people just happen to be of Arab decent, but that doesn't have
> anything to do with the fact that we are at war with them.
>
> I bet 99% of catholic preists that sexually abused kids are white and I
> think they need to be prosecuted, is that racist also? Do you get my point
> here? Just because a group happens to be of one race does not mean one is
> racist for wanting to protect themselves against them.
>
>
>
>
> On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com > wrote:
> >
> > Wow. Just wow.
> >
> > "Our 'enemy' is the Islamic (read: Arab) 'fascists' or Islamic (read:
> > Arab)
> > 'extremists' . . ."
> >
> > That's pretty fucking racist, fool. How many white muslims do you know?
> >
> > Further, read this for an example of how your line of thinking is racist
> > and
> > has created a police state right here in the good old US of A:
> >
> > http://pestilence.short-b.us/2006/08/antinazi_slogans_now_offensive.html
> >
> >
> > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen < sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > How is that racist? Please explain.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > <snip>Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or Islamic extremists,
> > terrorism
> > > > is
> > > > just a
> > > > form of fighting similar to guerrilla warfare.</snip>
> > > >
> > > > Racist much?
> > > >
> > > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen < sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or Islamic extremists, terrorism
> > is
> > > > just
> > > > > a
> > > > > form of fighting similar to guerrilla warfare. Anyone can be a
> > > > terrorist
> > > > > (Timmothy Mcvay), but the ones we need to concentrate this war on
> > are
> > > > the
> > > > > Islamic fascist types (you know the ones that say they want to
> > kill
> > > > > everyone
> > > > > that isn't muslim). Obviously, this guy was just making a
> > statement
> > > > with
> > > > > his
> > > > > shirt and was not a threat, just as all the loud UCSF students
> > aren't
> > > > a
> > > > > threat. That was a nasty breach of his civil rights as an American
> > > > > citizen.
> > > > > So how do we fight the IF's? Profile? Hope they all go to Iraq?
> > What
> > > > are
> > > > > we
> > > > > to do as citizens that want to protect our country from attacks?
> > > > >
> > > > > So what ever happened to the news about that dude that went GTA
> > with a
> > > >
> > > > > 5000
> > > > > lbs SUV through Fremont and SF? Wasn't that a terrorist act
> > performed
> > > > by a
> > > > > Muslim? Why no news? Is it because he isn't White? Oh, I see, he
> > had
> > > > > mental
> > > > > issues.... sure, just like that guy that shot all the people in
> > the LA
> > > >
> > > > > airport that we never heard about also. Funny how all that is
> > covered
> > > > on
> > > > > the
> > > > > news is about some white girl that died 10 years ago.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/31/06, Delia < velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Its interesting that this comes to light at the same
> > > > > > time of as this:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/08/30/state/n130540D11.DTL&hw=arabic+shirt&sn=001&sc=1000
> >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know that this kind of discrimination has been going
> > > > > > on since 9/11 but its just ridiculous.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -D.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- Max Dykstra < digerati@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Delia < velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:The
> > > > > > > anti-arab attitudes our
> > > > > > > > government is taking is
> > > > > > > > sickening. It's similar to the Japanese in WWII. I
> > > > > > > > don't think this should be tolerated.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Indeed.
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Well, how would you define war? There is a specific group of people out
there (Islamic extremists) that want to kill you and destroy your way of
life and they are actively looking for ways to do it.

 So that is not war? If they destroyed all the LSD and MDMA precursor
chemicals and your family would you still not be at war with them?

 I don't care if the "IF's" are black, white, yellow, red, or orange. Race
has nothing to do with it. If they happen to be of a certain race, well it
will just make them easier to find and profile, but that is about it.


On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "We are at war with them!?!?!"
>
> ARE YOU FUCKING INSANE?
>
> Maybe *you* are at war with them, but as far as I'm concerned there is no
> 'them' to be at war with.
>
> This is the basis of racism. I can't say that I'm surprised you don't see
> it. You being known for a particularly virulent form of facist ignorance.
>
>
> On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  Well, I still do not see how it is racist. Maybe 99% of Islamic
> > Fascist people just happen to be of Arab decent, but that doesn't have
> > anything to do with the fact that we are at war with them.
> >
> > I bet 99% of catholic preists that sexually abused kids are white and I
> > think they need to be prosecuted, is that racist also? Do you get my point
> > here? Just because a group happens to be of one race does not mean one is
> > racist for wanting to protect themselves against them.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > Wow. Just wow.
> > >
> > > "Our 'enemy' is the Islamic (read: Arab) 'fascists' or Islamic (read:
> > > Arab)
> > > 'extremists' . . ."
> > >
> > > That's pretty fucking racist, fool. How many white muslims do you
> > > know?
> > >
> > > Further, read this for an example of how your line of thinking is
> > > racist and
> > > has created a police state right here in the good old US of A:
> > >
> > > http://pestilence.short-b.us/2006/08/antinazi_slogans_now_offensive.html
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen < sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > How is that racist? Please explain.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > <snip>Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or Islamic extremists,
> > > terrorism
> > > > > is
> > > > > just a
> > > > > form of fighting similar to guerrilla warfare.</snip>
> > > > >
> > > > > Racist much?
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen < sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or Islamic extremists,
> > > terrorism is
> > > > > just
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > form of fighting similar to guerrilla warfare. Anyone can be a
> > > > > terrorist
> > > > > > (Timmothy Mcvay), but the ones we need to concentrate this war
> > > on are
> > > > > the
> > > > > > Islamic fascist types (you know the ones that say they want to
> > > kill
> > > > > > everyone
> > > > > > that isn't muslim). Obviously, this guy was just making a
> > > statement
> > > > > with
> > > > > > his
> > > > > > shirt and was not a threat, just as all the loud UCSF students
> > > aren't
> > > > > a
> > > > > > threat. That was a nasty breach of his civil rights as an
> > > American
> > > > > > citizen.
> > > > > > So how do we fight the IF's? Profile? Hope they all go to Iraq?
> > > What
> > > > > are
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > to do as citizens that want to protect our country from attacks?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So what ever happened to the news about that dude that went GTA
> > > with a
> > > > >
> > > > > > 5000
> > > > > > lbs SUV through Fremont and SF? Wasn't that a terrorist act
> > > performed
> > > > > by a
> > > > > > Muslim? Why no news? Is it because he isn't White? Oh, I see, he
> > > had
> > > > > > mental
> > > > > > issues.... sure, just like that guy that shot all the people in
> > > the LA
> > > > >
> > > > > > airport that we never heard about also. Funny how all that is
> > > covered
> > > > > on
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > news is about some white girl that died 10 years ago.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 8/31/06, Delia < velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Its interesting that this comes to light at the same
> > > > > > > time of as this:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/08/30/state/n130540D11.DTL&hw=arabic+shirt&sn=001&sc=1000
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I know that this kind of discrimination has been going
> > > > > > > on since 9/11 but its just ridiculous.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -D.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- Max Dykstra < digerati@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Delia < velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:The
> > > > > > > > anti-arab attitudes our
> > > > > > > > > government is taking is
> > > > > > > > > sickening. It's similar to the Japanese in WWII. I
> > > > > > > > > don't think this should be tolerated.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Indeed.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and packing my
> > > bongloads!
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > aim= junglegurlee510
> > > > > > > yahoo= velouria83
> > > > > > > google talk= mskittiecat@gmail.com
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Dude, are you getting paid to say this shit? I swear, it's like it's coming
straight from old Rummy himself.

On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Well, how would you define war? There is a specific group of people out
> there (Islamic extremists) that want to kill you and destroy your way of
> life and they are actively looking for ways to do it.
>
>  So that is not war? If they destroyed all the LSD and MDMA precursor
> chemicals and your family would you still not be at war with them?
>
>  I don't care if the "IF's" are black, white, yellow, red, or orange. Race
> has nothing to do with it. If they happen to be of a certain race, well it
> will just make them easier to find and profile, but that is about it.
>
>
> On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > "We are at war with them!?!?!"
> >
> > ARE YOU FUCKING INSANE?
> >
> > Maybe *you* are at war with them, but as far as I'm concerned there is
> > no 'them' to be at war with.
> >
> > This is the basis of racism. I can't say that I'm surprised you don't
> > see it. You being known for a particularly virulent form of facist
> > ignorance.
> >
> >
> > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >  Well, I still do not see how it is racist. Maybe 99% of Islamic
> > > Fascist people just happen to be of Arab decent, but that doesn't have
> > > anything to do with the fact that we are at war with them.
> > >
> > > I bet 99% of catholic preists that sexually abused kids are white and
> > > I think they need to be prosecuted, is that racist also? Do you get my point
> > > here? Just because a group happens to be of one race does not mean one is
> > > racist for wanting to protect themselves against them.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Wow. Just wow.
> > > >
> > > > "Our 'enemy' is the Islamic (read: Arab) 'fascists' or Islamic
> > > > (read: Arab)
> > > > 'extremists' . . ."
> > > >
> > > > That's pretty fucking racist, fool. How many white muslims do you
> > > > know?
> > > >
> > > > Further, read this for an example of how your line of thinking is
> > > > racist and
> > > > has created a police state right here in the good old US of A:
> > > >
> > > > http://pestilence.short-b.us/2006/08/antinazi_slogans_now_offensive.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen < sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > How is that racist? Please explain.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <snip>Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or Islamic extremists,
> > > > terrorism
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > just a
> > > > > > form of fighting similar to guerrilla warfare.</snip>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Racist much?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen < sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or Islamic extremists,
> > > > terrorism is
> > > > > > just
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > form of fighting similar to guerrilla warfare. Anyone can be a
> > > >
> > > > > > terrorist
> > > > > > > (Timmothy Mcvay), but the ones we need to concentrate this war
> > > > on are
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > Islamic fascist types (you know the ones that say they want to
> > > > kill
> > > > > > > everyone
> > > > > > > that isn't muslim). Obviously, this guy was just making a
> > > > statement
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > shirt and was not a threat, just as all the loud UCSF students
> > > > aren't
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > threat. That was a nasty breach of his civil rights as an
> > > > American
> > > > > > > citizen.
> > > > > > > So how do we fight the IF's? Profile? Hope they all go to
> > > > Iraq? What
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > to do as citizens that want to protect our country from
> > > > attacks?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So what ever happened to the news about that dude that went
> > > > GTA with a
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > 5000
> > > > > > > lbs SUV through Fremont and SF? Wasn't that a terrorist act
> > > > performed
> > > > > > by a
> > > > > > > Muslim? Why no news? Is it because he isn't White? Oh, I see,
> > > > he had
> > > > > > > mental
> > > > > > > issues.... sure, just like that guy that shot all the people
> > > > in the LA
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > airport that we never heard about also. Funny how all that is
> > > > covered
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > news is about some white girl that died 10 years ago.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Delia < velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Its interesting that this comes to light at the same
> > > > > > > > time of as this:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/08/30/state/n130540D11.DTL&hw=arabic+shirt&sn=001&sc=1000
> > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I know that this kind of discrimination has been going
> > > > > > > > on since 9/11 but its just ridiculous.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -D.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- Max Dykstra < digerati@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Delia < velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:The
> > > > > > > > > anti-arab attitudes our
> > > > > > > > > > government is taking is
> > > > > > > > > > sickening. It's similar to the Japanese in WWII. I
> > > > > > > > > > don't think this should be tolerated.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Indeed.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and packing my
> > > > bongloads!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > aim= junglegurlee510
> > > > > > > > yahoo= velouria83
> > > > > > > > google talk= mskittiecat@gmail.com
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> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > --
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> > > > > > >
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> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >
>
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"So that is not war? If they destroyed all the LSD and
MDMA precursor
chemicals and your family would you still not be at
war with them?"

Bahahahaha! Hey now watch out you might perk a few
ears there lmfao.

Plz dont kill teh droogs kthx

-D.



--- Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, how would you define war? There is a specific
> group of people out
> there (Islamic extremists) that want to kill you and
> destroy your way of
> life and they are actively looking for ways to do
> it.
> 
>  So that is not war? If they destroyed all the LSD
> and MDMA precursor
> chemicals and your family would you still not be at
> war with them?
> 
>  I don't care if the "IF's" are black, white,
> yellow, red, or orange. Race
> has nothing to do with it. If they happen to be of a
> certain race, well it
> will just make them easier to find and profile, but
> that is about it.
> 
> 
> On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > "We are at war with them!?!?!"
> >
> > ARE YOU FUCKING INSANE?
> >
> > Maybe *you* are at war with them, but as far as
> I'm concerned there is no
> > 'them' to be at war with.
> >
> > This is the basis of racism. I can't say that I'm
> surprised you don't see
> > it. You being known for a particularly virulent
> form of facist ignorance.
> >
> >
> > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >  Well, I still do not see how it is racist.
> Maybe 99% of Islamic
> > > Fascist people just happen to be of Arab decent,
> but that doesn't have
> > > anything to do with the fact that we are at war
> with them.
> > >
> > > I bet 99% of catholic preists that sexually
> abused kids are white and I
> > > think they need to be prosecuted, is that racist
> also? Do you get my point
> > > here? Just because a group happens to be of one
> race does not mean one is
> > > racist for wanting to protect themselves against
> them.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy
> <aldendy@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Wow. Just wow.
> > > >
> > > > "Our 'enemy' is the Islamic (read: Arab)
> 'fascists' or Islamic (read:
> > > > Arab)
> > > > 'extremists' . . ."
> > > >
> > > > That's pretty fucking racist, fool. How many
> white muslims do you
> > > > know?
> > > >
> > > > Further, read this for an example of how your
> line of thinking is
> > > > racist and
> > > > has created a police state right here in the
> good old US of A:
> > > >
> > > >
>
http://pestilence.short-b.us/2006/08/antinazi_slogans_now_offensive.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen < sosteen@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > How is that racist? Please explain.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy
> <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <snip>Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or
> Islamic extremists,
> > > > terrorism
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > just a
> > > > > > form of fighting similar to guerrilla
> warfare.</snip>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Racist much?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <
> sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or
> Islamic extremists,
> > > > terrorism is
> > > > > > just
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > form of fighting similar to guerrilla
> warfare. Anyone can be a
> > > > > > terrorist
> > > > > > > (Timmothy Mcvay), but the ones we need
> to concentrate this war
> > > > on are
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > Islamic fascist types (you know the ones
> that say they want to
> > > > kill
> > > > > > > everyone
> > > > > > > that isn't muslim). Obviously, this guy
> was just making a
> > > > statement
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > shirt and was not a threat, just as all
> the loud UCSF students
> > > > aren't
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > threat. That was a nasty breach of his
> civil rights as an
> > > > American
> > > > > > > citizen.
> > > > > > > So how do we fight the IF's? Profile?
> Hope they all go to Iraq?
> > > > What
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > to do as citizens that want to protect
> our country from attacks?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So what ever happened to the news about
> that dude that went GTA
> > > > with a
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > 5000
> > > > > > > lbs SUV through Fremont and SF? Wasn't
> that a terrorist act
> > > > performed
> > > > > > by a
> > > > > > > Muslim? Why no news? Is it because he
> isn't White? Oh, I see, he
> > > > had
> > > > > > > mental
> > > > > > > issues.... sure, just like that guy that
> shot all the people in
> > > > the LA
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > airport that we never heard about also.
> Funny how all that is
> > > > covered
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > news is about some white girl that died
> 10 years ago.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Delia <
> velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Its interesting that this comes to
> light at the same
> > > > > > > > time of as this:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
>
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/08/30/state/n130540D11.DTL&hw=arabic+shirt&sn=001&sc=1000
> > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I know that this kind of
> discrimination has been going
> > > > > > > > on since 9/11 but its just ridiculous.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -D.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- Max Dykstra < digerati@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Delia <
> velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:The
> > > > > > > > > anti-arab attitudes our
> > > > > > > > > > government is taking is
> > > > > > > > > > sickening. It's similar to the
> Japanese in WWII. I
> > > > > > > > > > don't think this should be
> tolerated.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Indeed.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > a man's place is in the
> kitchen...barefoot and packing my
> > > > bongloads!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > aim= junglegurlee510
> > > > > > > > yahoo= velouria83
> > > > > > > > google talk= mskittiecat@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Terrorists "drive taxi cabs in the daytime and kill at night"

Let's just nip this one in the bud before it gets snowballing. Ok?


Cuz this is the shit that John was talking about. You're gonna rant, and 
everyone on this list is gonna skewer you for it.

Let's just drop this one.



>From: "Steve Osteen" <sosteen@gmail.com>
>To: "Alex Laughlin-Dendy" <aldendy@gmail.com>
>CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Terrorists "drive taxi cabs in the daytime and 
>kill at night"
>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:57:37 -0700
>
>Well, how would you define war? There is a specific group of people out
>there (Islamic extremists) that want to kill you and destroy your way of
>life and they are actively looking for ways to do it.
>
>So that is not war? If they destroyed all the LSD and MDMA precursor
>chemicals and your family would you still not be at war with them?
>
>I don't care if the "IF's" are black, white, yellow, red, or orange. Race
>has nothing to do with it. If they happen to be of a certain race, well it
>will just make them easier to find and profile, but that is about it.
>
>
>On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>"We are at war with them!?!?!"
>>
>>ARE YOU FUCKING INSANE?
>>
>>Maybe *you* are at war with them, but as far as I'm concerned there is no
>>'them' to be at war with.
>>
>>This is the basis of racism. I can't say that I'm surprised you don't see
>>it. You being known for a particularly virulent form of facist ignorance.
>>
>>
>>On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >  Well, I still do not see how it is racist. Maybe 99% of Islamic
>> > Fascist people just happen to be of Arab decent, but that doesn't have
>> > anything to do with the fact that we are at war with them.
>> >
>> > I bet 99% of catholic preists that sexually abused kids are white and I
>> > think they need to be prosecuted, is that racist also? Do you get my 
>>point
>> > here? Just because a group happens to be of one race does not mean one 
>>is
>> > racist for wanting to protect themselves against them.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Wow. Just wow.
>> > >
>> > > "Our 'enemy' is the Islamic (read: Arab) 'fascists' or Islamic (read:
>> > > Arab)
>> > > 'extremists' . . ."
>> > >
>> > > That's pretty fucking racist, fool. How many white muslims do you
>> > > know?
>> > >
>> > > Further, read this for an example of how your line of thinking is
>> > > racist and
>> > > has created a police state right here in the good old US of A:
>> > >
>> > > 
>>http://pestilence.short-b.us/2006/08/antinazi_slogans_now_offensive.html
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen < sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > How is that racist? Please explain.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > <snip>Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or Islamic extremists,
>> > > terrorism
>> > > > > is
>> > > > > just a
>> > > > > form of fighting similar to guerrilla warfare.</snip>
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Racist much?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen < sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or Islamic extremists,
>> > > terrorism is
>> > > > > just
>> > > > > > a
>> > > > > > form of fighting similar to guerrilla warfare. Anyone can be a
>> > > > > terrorist
>> > > > > > (Timmothy Mcvay), but the ones we need to concentrate this war
>> > > on are
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > > Islamic fascist types (you know the ones that say they want to
>> > > kill
>> > > > > > everyone
>> > > > > > that isn't muslim). Obviously, this guy was just making a
>> > > statement
>> > > > > with
>> > > > > > his
>> > > > > > shirt and was not a threat, just as all the loud UCSF students
>> > > aren't
>> > > > > a
>> > > > > > threat. That was a nasty breach of his civil rights as an
>> > > American
>> > > > > > citizen.
>> > > > > > So how do we fight the IF's? Profile? Hope they all go to Iraq?
>> > > What
>> > > > > are
>> > > > > > we
>> > > > > > to do as citizens that want to protect our country from 
>>attacks?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > So what ever happened to the news about that dude that went GTA
>> > > with a
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > 5000
>> > > > > > lbs SUV through Fremont and SF? Wasn't that a terrorist act
>> > > performed
>> > > > > by a
>> > > > > > Muslim? Why no news? Is it because he isn't White? Oh, I see, 
>>he
>> > > had
>> > > > > > mental
>> > > > > > issues.... sure, just like that guy that shot all the people in
>> > > the LA
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > airport that we never heard about also. Funny how all that is
>> > > covered
>> > > > > on
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > news is about some white girl that died 10 years ago.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On 8/31/06, Delia < velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Its interesting that this comes to light at the same
>> > > > > > > time of as this:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > 
>>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/08/30/state/n130540D11.DTL&hw=arabic+shirt&sn=001&sc=1000
>> > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I know that this kind of discrimination has been going
>> > > > > > > on since 9/11 but its just ridiculous.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > -D.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > --- Max Dykstra < digerati@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Delia < velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:The
>> > > > > > > > anti-arab attitudes our
>> > > > > > > > > government is taking is
>> > > > > > > > > sickening. It's similar to the Japanese in WWII. I
>> > > > > > > > > don't think this should be tolerated.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Indeed.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and packing my
>> > > bongloads!
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > >
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Terrorists "drive taxi cabs in the daytime and kill at night"

LOL

it would be more like

"You damn raver!!! If they annihilated your glow
sticks and ecstasy then I'm sure you'd be concerned
then"!!!

bahahaha too funny

<3 Delia

--- Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dude, are you getting paid to say this shit? I
> swear, it's like it's coming
> straight from old Rummy himself.
> 
> On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Well, how would you define war? There is a
> specific group of people out
> > there (Islamic extremists) that want to kill you
> and destroy your way of
> > life and they are actively looking for ways to do
> it.
> >
> >  So that is not war? If they destroyed all the LSD
> and MDMA precursor
> > chemicals and your family would you still not be
> at war with them?
> >
> >  I don't care if the "IF's" are black, white,
> yellow, red, or orange. Race
> > has nothing to do with it. If they happen to be of
> a certain race, well it
> > will just make them easier to find and profile,
> but that is about it.
> >
> >
> > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy
> <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > "We are at war with them!?!?!"
> > >
> > > ARE YOU FUCKING INSANE?
> > >
> > > Maybe *you* are at war with them, but as far as
> I'm concerned there is
> > > no 'them' to be at war with.
> > >
> > > This is the basis of racism. I can't say that
> I'm surprised you don't
> > > see it. You being known for a particularly
> virulent form of facist
> > > ignorance.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  Well, I still do not see how it is racist.
> Maybe 99% of Islamic
> > > > Fascist people just happen to be of Arab
> decent, but that doesn't have
> > > > anything to do with the fact that we are at
> war with them.
> > > >
> > > > I bet 99% of catholic preists that sexually
> abused kids are white and
> > > > I think they need to be prosecuted, is that
> racist also? Do you get my point
> > > > here? Just because a group happens to be of
> one race does not mean one is
> > > > racist for wanting to protect themselves
> against them.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy
> <aldendy@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Wow. Just wow.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Our 'enemy' is the Islamic (read: Arab)
> 'fascists' or Islamic
> > > > > (read: Arab)
> > > > > 'extremists' . . ."
> > > > >
> > > > > That's pretty fucking racist, fool. How many
> white muslims do you
> > > > > know?
> > > > >
> > > > > Further, read this for an example of how
> your line of thinking is
> > > > > racist and
> > > > > has created a police state right here in the
> good old US of A:
> > > > >
> > > > >
>
http://pestilence.short-b.us/2006/08/antinazi_slogans_now_offensive.html
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <
> sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How is that racist? Please explain.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy
> <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <snip>Our enemy is the Islamic fascists
> or Islamic extremists,
> > > > > terrorism
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > just a
> > > > > > > form of fighting similar to guerrilla
> warfare.</snip>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Racist much?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <
> sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or
> Islamic extremists,
> > > > > terrorism is
> > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > form of fighting similar to guerrilla
> warfare. Anyone can be a
> > > > >
> > > > > > > terrorist
> > > > > > > > (Timmothy Mcvay), but the ones we need
> to concentrate this war
> > > > > on are
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > Islamic fascist types (you know the
> ones that say they want to
> > > > > kill
> > > > > > > > everyone
> > > > > > > > that isn't muslim). Obviously, this
> guy was just making a
> > > > > statement
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > shirt and was not a threat, just as
> all the loud UCSF students
> > > > > aren't
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > threat. That was a nasty breach of his
> civil rights as an
> > > > > American
> > > > > > > > citizen.
> > > > > > > > So how do we fight the IF's? Profile?
> Hope they all go to
> > > > > Iraq? What
> > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > to do as citizens that want to protect
> our country from
> > > > > attacks?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So what ever happened to the news
> about that dude that went
> > > > > GTA with a
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 5000
> > > > > > > > lbs SUV through Fremont and SF? Wasn't
> that a terrorist act
> > > > > performed
> > > > > > > by a
> > > > > > > > Muslim? Why no news? Is it because he
> isn't White? Oh, I see,
> > > > > he had
> > > > > > > > mental
> > > > > > > > issues.... sure, just like that guy
> that shot all the people
> > > > > in the LA
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > airport that we never heard about
> also. Funny how all that is
> > > > > covered
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > news is about some white girl that
> died 10 years ago.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Delia <
> velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Its interesting that this comes to
> light at the same
> > > > > > > > > time of as this:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
>
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/08/30/state/n130540D11.DTL&hw=arabic+shirt&sn=001&sc=1000
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I know that this kind of
> discrimination has been going
> > > > > > > > > on since 9/11 but its just
> ridiculous.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -D.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- Max Dykstra <
> digerati@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Delia <
> velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:The
> > > > > > > > > > anti-arab attitudes our
> > > > > > > > > > > government is taking is
> > > > > > > > > > > sickening. It's similar to the
> Japanese in WWII. I
> > > > > > > > > > > don't think this should be
> tolerated.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Indeed.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > a man's place is in the
> kitchen...barefoot and packing my
> > > > > bongloads!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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Well, I had to pick something I knew Alex was fond of, and I'm not sure if
he is fond of humans...


On 8/31/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> LOL
>
> it would be more like
>
> "You damn raver!!! If they annihilated your glow
> sticks and ecstasy then I'm sure you'd be concerned
> then"!!!
>
> bahahaha too funny
>
> <3 Delia
>
> --- Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dude, are you getting paid to say this shit? I
> > swear, it's like it's coming
> > straight from old Rummy himself.
> >
> > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, how would you define war? There is a
> > specific group of people out
> > > there (Islamic extremists) that want to kill you
> > and destroy your way of
> > > life and they are actively looking for ways to do
> > it.
> > >
> > >  So that is not war? If they destroyed all the LSD
> > and MDMA precursor
> > > chemicals and your family would you still not be
> > at war with them?
> > >
> > >  I don't care if the "IF's" are black, white,
> > yellow, red, or orange. Race
> > > has nothing to do with it. If they happen to be of
> > a certain race, well it
> > > will just make them easier to find and profile,
> > but that is about it.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy
> > <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "We are at war with them!?!?!"
> > > >
> > > > ARE YOU FUCKING INSANE?
> > > >
> > > > Maybe *you* are at war with them, but as far as
> > I'm concerned there is
> > > > no 'them' to be at war with.
> > > >
> > > > This is the basis of racism. I can't say that
> > I'm surprised you don't
> > > > see it. You being known for a particularly
> > virulent form of facist
> > > > ignorance.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >  Well, I still do not see how it is racist.
> > Maybe 99% of Islamic
> > > > > Fascist people just happen to be of Arab
> > decent, but that doesn't have
> > > > > anything to do with the fact that we are at
> > war with them.
> > > > >
> > > > > I bet 99% of catholic preists that sexually
> > abused kids are white and
> > > > > I think they need to be prosecuted, is that
> > racist also? Do you get my point
> > > > > here? Just because a group happens to be of
> > one race does not mean one is
> > > > > racist for wanting to protect themselves
> > against them.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy
> > <aldendy@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wow. Just wow.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Our 'enemy' is the Islamic (read: Arab)
> > 'fascists' or Islamic
> > > > > > (read: Arab)
> > > > > > 'extremists' . . ."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's pretty fucking racist, fool. How many
> > white muslims do you
> > > > > > know?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Further, read this for an example of how
> > your line of thinking is
> > > > > > racist and
> > > > > > has created a police state right here in the
> > good old US of A:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> >
> http://pestilence.short-b.us/2006/08/antinazi_slogans_now_offensive.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <
> > sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How is that racist? Please explain.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy
> > <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > <snip>Our enemy is the Islamic fascists
> > or Islamic extremists,
> > > > > > terrorism
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > just a
> > > > > > > > form of fighting similar to guerrilla
> > warfare.</snip>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Racist much?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <
> > sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or
> > Islamic extremists,
> > > > > > terrorism is
> > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > form of fighting similar to guerrilla
> > warfare. Anyone can be a
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > terrorist
> > > > > > > > > (Timmothy Mcvay), but the ones we need
> > to concentrate this war
> > > > > > on are
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > Islamic fascist types (you know the
> > ones that say they want to
> > > > > > kill
> > > > > > > > > everyone
> > > > > > > > > that isn't muslim). Obviously, this
> > guy was just making a
> > > > > > statement
> > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > > shirt and was not a threat, just as
> > all the loud UCSF students
> > > > > > aren't
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > threat. That was a nasty breach of his
> > civil rights as an
> > > > > > American
> > > > > > > > > citizen.
> > > > > > > > > So how do we fight the IF's? Profile?
> > Hope they all go to
> > > > > > Iraq? What
> > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > to do as citizens that want to protect
> > our country from
> > > > > > attacks?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So what ever happened to the news
> > about that dude that went
> > > > > > GTA with a
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 5000
> > > > > > > > > lbs SUV through Fremont and SF? Wasn't
> > that a terrorist act
> > > > > > performed
> > > > > > > > by a
> > > > > > > > > Muslim? Why no news? Is it because he
> > isn't White? Oh, I see,
> > > > > > he had
> > > > > > > > > mental
> > > > > > > > > issues.... sure, just like that guy
> > that shot all the people
> > > > > > in the LA
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > airport that we never heard about
> > also. Funny how all that is
> > > > > > covered
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > news is about some white girl that
> > died 10 years ago.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Delia <
> > velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Its interesting that this comes to
> > light at the same
> > > > > > > > > > time of as this:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> >
>
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/08/30/state/n130540D11.DTL&hw=arabic+shirt&sn=001&sc=1000
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I know that this kind of
> > discrimination has been going
> > > > > > > > > > on since 9/11 but its just
> > ridiculous.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -D.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- Max Dykstra <
> > digerati@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Delia <
> > velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:The
> > > > > > > > > > > anti-arab attitudes our
> > > > > > > > > > > > government is taking is
> > > > > > > > > > > > sickening. It's similar to the
> > Japanese in WWII. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > don't think this should be
> > tolerated.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Indeed.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > a man's place is in the
> > kitchen...barefoot and packing my
> > > > > > bongloads!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > aim= junglegurlee510
> > > > > > > > > > yahoo= velouria83
> > > > > > > > > > google talk= mskittiecat@gmail.com
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Philip you really shouldn't beat yourself up...it's not good man.


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I'm not fond of ingornant racist pieces of shit that like to talk about
things they really don't understand.

Keep watching Fox News buddy.

On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Well, I had to pick something I knew Alex was fond of, and I'm not sure if
> he is fond of humans...
>
>
> On 8/31/06, Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > LOL
>
> it would be more like
>
> "You damn raver!!! If they annihilated your glow
> sticks and ecstasy then I'm sure you'd be concerned
> then"!!!
>
> bahahaha too funny
>
> <3 Delia
>
> --- Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dude, are you getting paid to say this shit? I
> > swear, it's like it's coming
> > straight from old Rummy himself.
> >
> > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, how would you define war? There is a
> > specific group of people out
> > > there (Islamic extremists) that want to kill you
> > and destroy your way of
> > > life and they are actively looking for ways to do
> > it.
> > >
> > >  So that is not war? If they destroyed all the LSD
> > and MDMA precursor
> > > chemicals and your family would you still not be
> > at war with them?
> > >
> > >  I don't care if the "IF's" are black, white,
> > yellow, red, or orange. Race
> > > has nothing to do with it. If they happen to be of
> > a certain race, well it
> > > will just make them easier to find and profile,
> > but that is about it.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy
> > <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "We are at war with them!?!?!"
> > > >
> > > > ARE YOU FUCKING INSANE?
> > > >
> > > > Maybe *you* are at war with them, but as far as
> > I'm concerned there is
> > > > no 'them' to be at war with.
> > > >
> > > > This is the basis of racism. I can't say that
> > I'm surprised you don't
> > > > see it. You being known for a particularly
> > virulent form of facist
> > > > ignorance.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >  Well, I still do not see how it is racist.
> > Maybe 99% of Islamic
> > > > > Fascist people just happen to be of Arab
> > decent, but that doesn't have
> > > > > anything to do with the fact that we are at
> > war with them.
> > > > >
> > > > > I bet 99% of catholic preists that sexually
> > abused kids are white and
> > > > > I think they need to be prosecuted, is that
> > racist also? Do you get my point
> > > > > here? Just because a group happens to be of
> > one race does not mean one is
> > > > > racist for wanting to protect themselves
> > against them.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy
> > <aldendy@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wow. Just wow.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Our 'enemy' is the Islamic (read: Arab)
> > 'fascists' or Islamic
> > > > > > (read: Arab)
> > > > > > 'extremists' . . ."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's pretty fucking racist, fool. How many
> > white muslims do you
> > > > > > know?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Further, read this for an example of how
> > your line of thinking is
> > > > > > racist and
> > > > > > has created a police state right here in the
> > good old US of A:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> >
> http://pestilence.short-b.us/2006/08/antinazi_slogans_now_offensive.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <
> > sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How is that racist? Please explain.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy
> > <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > <snip>Our enemy is the Islamic fascists
> > or Islamic extremists,
> > > > > > terrorism
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > just a
> > > > > > > > form of fighting similar to guerrilla
> > warfare.</snip>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Racist much?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <
> > sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or
> > Islamic extremists,
> > > > > > terrorism is
> > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > form of fighting similar to guerrilla
> > warfare. Anyone can be a
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > terrorist
> > > > > > > > > (Timmothy Mcvay), but the ones we need
> > to concentrate this war
> > > > > > on are
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > Islamic fascist types (you know the
> > ones that say they want to
> > > > > > kill
> > > > > > > > > everyone
> > > > > > > > > that isn't muslim). Obviously, this
> > guy was just making a
> > > > > > statement
> > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > > shirt and was not a threat, just as
> > all the loud UCSF students
> > > > > > aren't
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > threat. That was a nasty breach of his
> > civil rights as an
> > > > > > American
> > > > > > > > > citizen.
> > > > > > > > > So how do we fight the IF's? Profile?
> > Hope they all go to
> > > > > > Iraq? What
> > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > to do as citizens that want to protect
> > our country from
> > > > > > attacks?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So what ever happened to the news
> > about that dude that went
> > > > > > GTA with a
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 5000
> > > > > > > > > lbs SUV through Fremont and SF? Wasn't
> > that a terrorist act
> > > > > > performed
> > > > > > > > by a
> > > > > > > > > Muslim? Why no news? Is it because he
> > isn't White? Oh, I see,
> > > > > > he had
> > > > > > > > > mental
> > > > > > > > > issues.... sure, just like that guy
> > that shot all the people
> > > > > > in the LA
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > airport that we never heard about
> > also. Funny how all that is
> > > > > > covered
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > news is about some white girl that
> > died 10 years ago.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Delia <
> > velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Its interesting that this comes to
> > light at the same
> > > > > > > > > > time of as this:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/08/30/state/n130540D11.DTL&hw=arabic+shirt&sn=001&sc=1000
>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I know that this kind of
> > discrimination has been going
> > > > > > > > > > on since 9/11 but its just
> > ridiculous.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -D.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- Max Dykstra <
> > digerati@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Delia <
> > velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:The
> > > > > > > > > > > anti-arab attitudes our
> > > > > > > > > > > > government is taking is
> > > > > > > > > > > > sickening. It's similar to the
> > Japanese in WWII. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > don't think this should be
> > tolerated.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Indeed.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > a man's place is in the
> > kitchen...barefoot and packing my
> > > > > > bongloads!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > aim= junglegurlee510
> > > > > > > > > > yahoo= velouria83
> > > > > > > > > > google talk= mskittiecat@gmail.com
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Chester Copperpot wrote:
> Everybody wants to see me naked...I know they do.  otherwise why do they
> keep asking me to take my clothes off?

Oooh yeah... i have those pictures.. oh shit.. i forgot... when Chester
was like don' that naked thing @ the Dungeon scaring the etarded candy
kids & was tryin' to hump Brenna in the smoking room.. Hello 2day... i
gotta find them :P
-- 
Take Care <3
Peace=->Jus' Me =-> O§bY {8O)



Chester Copperpot wrote:
> Everybody wants to see me naked...I know they do.  otherwise why do they
> keep asking me to take my clothes off?
>
> Someone should throw a party where everyone is naked, DJ's, Dancers, Drug
> Users, everyone...naked!!!
>
> --
> Chester Copperpot
>
> "Fightin' cancer with one hand."
> "Dead people are the new Potatos!"
> "Meth Monsters are my Anti-Drug"
>
>
> On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Why is it that the first people to get naked are always the last people
>> you
>> want to see naked?
>>
>> =P
>>
>> On 8/31/06, Chester Copperpot <chester.copperpot420@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I got an excuse as to why i havent attended more events.  I may not be
>> > there
>> > in person, but i'm always there in spirit...drinking, smoking,
>> yelling,
>> > screaming and most likely getting naked or close to it.
>> >
>> > TEAM LUSH CHEERLEADER!!!!!!!
>> >
>> > --
>> > Chester Copperpot
>> >
>> > "Fightin' cancer with one hand."
>> > "Dead people are the new Potatos!"
>> > "Meth Monsters are my Anti-Drug"
>> >
>> >
>> > On 8/31/06, Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > i think if the majority of people on the SFR list have not attended
>> > > more than 4 raves or underground or unpermitted parties with
>> > > electronic dance music in 2006...then there is something severly
>> > > wrong.
>> > >
>> > > that's only 4 parties in 8 months, but i think i actually believe
>> that
>> > > the majority on the list hasn't done that.
>> > >
>> > > shame shame...
>> > >
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Terrorists "drive taxi cabs in the daytime and kill at night"

Man...I hope you have a LOT of bullets then.




>From: "Philip.X.Diaz" <st_indigo@earthlink.net>
>To: The Twilight Laser Outpost <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Terrorists "drive taxi cabs in the daytime and 
>kill at night"
>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:00:04 -0700
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>i'm at war with stupid people.
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Terrorists "drive taxi cabs in the daytime and kill at night"

i don't shoot them.  i blast them with my MENTAL RAY GUY.


On Aug 31, 2006, at 4:15 PM, Van Mundegaarde wrote:

> Man...I hope you have a LOT of bullets then.
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Terrorists "drive taxi cabs in the daytime and kill at night"

er, GUN.  hah. maybe i need to blast myself with it.




On Aug 31, 2006, at 4:10 PM, Philip.X.Diaz wrote:

> i don't shoot them.  i blast them with my MENTAL RAY GUY.
>
>
> On Aug 31, 2006, at 4:15 PM, Van Mundegaarde wrote:
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>> Man...I hope you have a LOT of bullets then.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Terrorists "drive taxi cabs in the daytime and kill at night"

Oh.

Well - um....you need more juice fo' yo' batt'ry then my friend ;)




>From: "Philip.X.Diaz" <st_indigo@earthlink.net>
>To: The Twilight Laser Outpost <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Terrorists "drive taxi cabs in the daytime and 
>kill at night"
>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:10:53 -0700
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>i don't shoot them.  i blast them with my MENTAL RAY GUY.
>
>
>On Aug 31, 2006, at 4:15 PM, Van Mundegaarde wrote:
>
>>Man...I hope you have a LOT of bullets then.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:00:04 -0700
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Terrorists "drive taxi cabs in the daytime and kill at night"

It made sense either way...so...your "gun" is still working, just needs a 
cleaning.

Damn Delai - was that homo-erotic enough for ya?

I'm talking about dudes "cleaning their guns" over here and whatnot ;)

(gun...pistol...sex pistol...penis...get it?)




>From: "Philip.X.Diaz" <st_indigo@earthlink.net>
>To: The Twilight Laser Outpost <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Terrorists "drive taxi cabs in the daytime and 
>kill at night"
>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:12:27 -0700
>
>er, GUN.  hah. maybe i need to blast myself with it.
>
>
>
>
>On Aug 31, 2006, at 4:10 PM, Philip.X.Diaz wrote:
>
>>i don't shoot them.  i blast them with my MENTAL RAY GUY.
>>
>>
>>On Aug 31, 2006, at 4:15 PM, Van Mundegaarde wrote:
>>
>>>Man...I hope you have a LOT of bullets then.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: "Philip.X.Diaz" <st_indigo@earthlink.net>
>>>>To: The Twilight Laser Outpost <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>>>>Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Terrorists "drive taxi cabs in the  daytime 
>>>>and kill at night"
>>>>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:00:04 -0700
>>>>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey guys..

Didn't you gys just have a SFR party?  I dont get it...
you would think people would be a bit psyched from that, and they were.  Um, 
hellloooooo  everyone is at the Burn.
it is always quiet around this time.
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>From: Delia <velouria83@yahoo.com>
>To: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>, Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
>CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey guys..
>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:10:45 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Well tbh you really don't see undergrounds promoted on
>this list too much...they are few and far between.
>
>-D.
>
>--- Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > i think if the majority of people on the SFR list
> > have not attended
> > more than 4 raves or underground or unpermitted
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> > something severly
> > wrong.
> >
> > that's only 4 parties in 8 months, but i think i
> > actually believe that
> > the majority on the list hasn't done that.
> >
> > shame shame...
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Subject: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty - 4 rooms of sound

speaking of partying, this is one party that i'm really really excited about.

1)  it's our afterparty for Lovefest (yes, formely known as Love
Parade SF) and the party last year that Evil Breaks was a part of was
a fucking blast!

2)  we are working with 3 other crews that i have a huge amount of
respect for:  Opel, Tantra and the Ambient Mafia.  these are some
class act crews and very talented folks.  Opel and Tantra have thrown
some AMAZING events over the last few years.  the combination of all 4
crews is going to be fantastic.

3)  the lineup is HUGE!!!  Rennie Pilgrim, Hyper, General
Midi....these are gigantic names not just in the breaks world but in
the cross-genre global dance music world.  this really is one of the
biggest breaks lineups in SF for the entire year, no joke.

4)  we have SWAT sound and Viberation visuals in our room.  you know what's up.

5)  it's at SOMARTS bitchez!!!!

limited $20 presales are online at groovetickets:
http://www.groovetickets.com/ordersystem/Groove/eventviewqb.asp?AffilID=93&EventsID=24655&PGname=Opel

--

Opel in Association with
Evil Breaks, Tantra and the Ambient Mafia presents:

Love Infusion @ SOMArts
September 23, 2006
Presales start @ $20
9pm-6am

This is THE LoveFest Afterparty for 2006. Hands down. Here's why.....

Rennie Pilgrem (www.tcr.uk.com)
Hyper (Hope / Thrive, UK)
General Midi (TCR / Distinctive / Kilowatt / Boombox, UK)
Carbon Community (Sober Music / Bless, Dallas, TX)
J-Break (Afterdark Records, Florida)
+
Syd Gris (Opel / Opulent Temple)
Hoj (Opel / dhhoj.com)
Aaron Jae (Evil Breaks / XM Radio)
Melyss (Opel / Sister SF / Cheeky)
Bam (Evil Breaks / Invibe)
M.O.D. (Evil Breaks)
Athena (Evil Breaks)
Jay Vigor (StrategiK)

with TANTRA and the AMBIENT MAFIA

more BSP info to come shortly....


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August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
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Subject: RE: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty - 4 rooms of sound

Nice! If I wasn't about 99% sure I was gonna be at the Seismic event 
checking out Nick Thayer & Deekline/Wizard, I'd be all over this one...hot 
fuckin' lineup!




>From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
>To: SFR <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty - 4 rooms of 
>sound
>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:22:21 -0700
>
>speaking of partying, this is one party that i'm really really excited 
>about.
>
>1)  it's our afterparty for Lovefest (yes, formely known as Love
>Parade SF) and the party last year that Evil Breaks was a part of was
>a fucking blast!
>
>2)  we are working with 3 other crews that i have a huge amount of
>respect for:  Opel, Tantra and the Ambient Mafia.  these are some
>class act crews and very talented folks.  Opel and Tantra have thrown
>some AMAZING events over the last few years.  the combination of all 4
>crews is going to be fantastic.
>
>3)  the lineup is HUGE!!!  Rennie Pilgrim, Hyper, General
>Midi....these are gigantic names not just in the breaks world but in
>the cross-genre global dance music world.  this really is one of the
>biggest breaks lineups in SF for the entire year, no joke.
>
>4)  we have SWAT sound and Viberation visuals in our room.  you know what's 
>up.
>
>5)  it's at SOMARTS bitchez!!!!
>
>limited $20 presales are online at groovetickets:
>http://www.groovetickets.com/ordersystem/Groove/eventviewqb.asp?AffilID=93&EventsID=24655&PGname=Opel
>
>--
>
>Opel in Association with
>Evil Breaks, Tantra and the Ambient Mafia presents:
>
>Love Infusion @ SOMArts
>September 23, 2006
>Presales start @ $20
>9pm-6am
>
>This is THE LoveFest Afterparty for 2006. Hands down. Here's why.....
>
>Rennie Pilgrem (www.tcr.uk.com)
>Hyper (Hope / Thrive, UK)
>General Midi (TCR / Distinctive / Kilowatt / Boombox, UK)
>Carbon Community (Sober Music / Bless, Dallas, TX)
>J-Break (Afterdark Records, Florida)
>+
>Syd Gris (Opel / Opulent Temple)
>Hoj (Opel / dhhoj.com)
>Aaron Jae (Evil Breaks / XM Radio)
>Melyss (Opel / Sister SF / Cheeky)
>Bam (Evil Breaks / Invibe)
>M.O.D. (Evil Breaks)
>Athena (Evil Breaks)
>Jay Vigor (StrategiK)
>
>with TANTRA and the AMBIENT MAFIA
>
>more BSP info to come shortly....
>
>
>--
>--------------------------
>< Brandon / DJ Bam >
>
>DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
>http://www.evilbreaks.com
>
>August 12th:  Obsoleet
>August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
>August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
>September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
>October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty - 4 rooms of sound

yeah, when i found out Nick Thayer was playing at Seismic that kinda
stung a little bit cause i'd be down to check him out for sure.  ;)

just like last year, there seems to be plenty of pre- and post parade
parties.  should be a fun weekend!


On 8/31/06, Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Nice! If I wasn't about 99% sure I was gonna be at the Seismic event
> checking out Nick Thayer & Deekline/Wizard, I'd be all over this one...hot
> fuckin' lineup!
>
>
>
>
> >From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
> >To: SFR <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty - 4 rooms of
> >sound
> >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:22:21 -0700
> >
> >speaking of partying, this is one party that i'm really really excited
> >about.
> >
> >1)  it's our afterparty for Lovefest (yes, formely known as Love
> >Parade SF) and the party last year that Evil Breaks was a part of was
> >a fucking blast!
> >
> >2)  we are working with 3 other crews that i have a huge amount of
> >respect for:  Opel, Tantra and the Ambient Mafia.  these are some
> >class act crews and very talented folks.  Opel and Tantra have thrown
> >some AMAZING events over the last few years.  the combination of all 4
> >crews is going to be fantastic.
> >
> >3)  the lineup is HUGE!!!  Rennie Pilgrim, Hyper, General
> >Midi....these are gigantic names not just in the breaks world but in
> >the cross-genre global dance music world.  this really is one of the
> >biggest breaks lineups in SF for the entire year, no joke.
> >
> >4)  we have SWAT sound and Viberation visuals in our room.  you know what's
> >up.
> >
> >5)  it's at SOMARTS bitchez!!!!
> >
> >limited $20 presales are online at groovetickets:
> >http://www.groovetickets.com/ordersystem/Groove/eventviewqb.asp?AffilID=93&EventsID=24655&PGname=Opel
> >
> >--
> >
> >Opel in Association with
> >Evil Breaks, Tantra and the Ambient Mafia presents:
> >
> >Love Infusion @ SOMArts
> >September 23, 2006
> >Presales start @ $20
> >9pm-6am
> >
> >This is THE LoveFest Afterparty for 2006. Hands down. Here's why.....
> >
> >Rennie Pilgrem (www.tcr.uk.com)
> >Hyper (Hope / Thrive, UK)
> >General Midi (TCR / Distinctive / Kilowatt / Boombox, UK)
> >Carbon Community (Sober Music / Bless, Dallas, TX)
> >J-Break (Afterdark Records, Florida)
> >+
> >Syd Gris (Opel / Opulent Temple)
> >Hoj (Opel / dhhoj.com)
> >Aaron Jae (Evil Breaks / XM Radio)
> >Melyss (Opel / Sister SF / Cheeky)
> >Bam (Evil Breaks / Invibe)
> >M.O.D. (Evil Breaks)
> >Athena (Evil Breaks)
> >Jay Vigor (StrategiK)
> >
> >with TANTRA and the AMBIENT MAFIA
> >
> >more BSP info to come shortly....
> >
> >
> >--
> >--------------------------
> >< Brandon / DJ Bam >
> >
> >DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
> >http://www.evilbreaks.com
> >
> >August 12th:  Obsoleet
> >August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
> >August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
> >September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
> >October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty - 4 rooms of sound

Yea...these days I just gotta get my fix of fresh blood.

I have seen all the cats on y'alls lineup a rack of times. All solid fucking 
DJ's/producers.

Sucks there couldn't just be some mega-breaks party somewhere with every 
crew involved. And by "mega", I mean something like "For the Love Of Breaks" 
times 10.




>From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
>To: "Van Mundegaarde" <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
>CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty - 4 rooms 
>of sound
>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:28:08 -0700
>
>yeah, when i found out Nick Thayer was playing at Seismic that kinda
>stung a little bit cause i'd be down to check him out for sure.  ;)
>
>just like last year, there seems to be plenty of pre- and post parade
>parties.  should be a fun weekend!
>
>
>On 8/31/06, Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>Nice! If I wasn't about 99% sure I was gonna be at the Seismic event
>>checking out Nick Thayer & Deekline/Wizard, I'd be all over this one...hot
>>fuckin' lineup!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
>> >To: SFR <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>> >Subject: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty - 4 rooms of
>> >sound
>> >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:22:21 -0700
>> >
>> >speaking of partying, this is one party that i'm really really excited
>> >about.
>> >
>> >1)  it's our afterparty for Lovefest (yes, formely known as Love
>> >Parade SF) and the party last year that Evil Breaks was a part of was
>> >a fucking blast!
>> >
>> >2)  we are working with 3 other crews that i have a huge amount of
>> >respect for:  Opel, Tantra and the Ambient Mafia.  these are some
>> >class act crews and very talented folks.  Opel and Tantra have thrown
>> >some AMAZING events over the last few years.  the combination of all 4
>> >crews is going to be fantastic.
>> >
>> >3)  the lineup is HUGE!!!  Rennie Pilgrim, Hyper, General
>> >Midi....these are gigantic names not just in the breaks world but in
>> >the cross-genre global dance music world.  this really is one of the
>> >biggest breaks lineups in SF for the entire year, no joke.
>> >
>> >4)  we have SWAT sound and Viberation visuals in our room.  you know 
>>what's
>> >up.
>> >
>> >5)  it's at SOMARTS bitchez!!!!
>> >
>> >limited $20 presales are online at groovetickets:
>> >http://www.groovetickets.com/ordersystem/Groove/eventviewqb.asp?AffilID=93&EventsID=24655&PGname=Opel
>> >
>> >--
>> >
>> >Opel in Association with
>> >Evil Breaks, Tantra and the Ambient Mafia presents:
>> >
>> >Love Infusion @ SOMArts
>> >September 23, 2006
>> >Presales start @ $20
>> >9pm-6am
>> >
>> >This is THE LoveFest Afterparty for 2006. Hands down. Here's why.....
>> >
>> >Rennie Pilgrem (www.tcr.uk.com)
>> >Hyper (Hope / Thrive, UK)
>> >General Midi (TCR / Distinctive / Kilowatt / Boombox, UK)
>> >Carbon Community (Sober Music / Bless, Dallas, TX)
>> >J-Break (Afterdark Records, Florida)
>> >+
>> >Syd Gris (Opel / Opulent Temple)
>> >Hoj (Opel / dhhoj.com)
>> >Aaron Jae (Evil Breaks / XM Radio)
>> >Melyss (Opel / Sister SF / Cheeky)
>> >Bam (Evil Breaks / Invibe)
>> >M.O.D. (Evil Breaks)
>> >Athena (Evil Breaks)
>> >Jay Vigor (StrategiK)
>> >
>> >with TANTRA and the AMBIENT MAFIA
>> >
>> >more BSP info to come shortly....
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >--------------------------
>> >< Brandon / DJ Bam >
>> >
>> >DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
>> >http://www.evilbreaks.com
>> >
>> >August 12th:  Obsoleet
>> >August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
>> >August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
>> >September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
>> >October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
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>August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
>August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
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Rumsfeld is a fucking idiot.

On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dude, are you getting paid to say this shit? I swear, it's like it's
> coming
> straight from old Rummy himself.
>
> On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Well, how would you define war? There is a specific group of people out
> > there (Islamic extremists) that want to kill you and destroy your way of
> > life and they are actively looking for ways to do it.
> >
> >  So that is not war? If they destroyed all the LSD and MDMA precursor
> > chemicals and your family would you still not be at war with them?
> >
> >  I don't care if the "IF's" are black, white, yellow, red, or orange.
> Race
> > has nothing to do with it. If they happen to be of a certain race, well
> it
> > will just make them easier to find and profile, but that is about it.
> >
> >
> > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > "We are at war with them!?!?!"
> > >
> > > ARE YOU FUCKING INSANE?
> > >
> > > Maybe *you* are at war with them, but as far as I'm concerned there is
> > > no 'them' to be at war with.
> > >
> > > This is the basis of racism. I can't say that I'm surprised you don't
> > > see it. You being known for a particularly virulent form of facist
> > > ignorance.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  Well, I still do not see how it is racist. Maybe 99% of Islamic
> > > > Fascist people just happen to be of Arab decent, but that doesn't
> have
> > > > anything to do with the fact that we are at war with them.
> > > >
> > > > I bet 99% of catholic preists that sexually abused kids are white
> and
> > > > I think they need to be prosecuted, is that racist also? Do you get
> my point
> > > > here? Just because a group happens to be of one race does not mean
> one is
> > > > racist for wanting to protect themselves against them.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Wow. Just wow.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Our 'enemy' is the Islamic (read: Arab) 'fascists' or Islamic
> > > > > (read: Arab)
> > > > > 'extremists' . . ."
> > > > >
> > > > > That's pretty fucking racist, fool. How many white muslims do you
> > > > > know?
> > > > >
> > > > > Further, read this for an example of how your line of thinking is
> > > > > racist and
> > > > > has created a police state right here in the good old US of A:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> http://pestilence.short-b.us/2006/08/antinazi_slogans_now_offensive.html
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen < sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How is that racist? Please explain.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <snip>Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or Islamic extremists,
> > > > > terrorism
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > just a
> > > > > > > form of fighting similar to guerrilla warfare.</snip>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Racist much?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen < sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or Islamic extremists,
> > > > > terrorism is
> > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > form of fighting similar to guerrilla warfare. Anyone can be
> a
> > > > >
> > > > > > > terrorist
> > > > > > > > (Timmothy Mcvay), but the ones we need to concentrate this
> war
> > > > > on are
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > Islamic fascist types (you know the ones that say they want
> to
> > > > > kill
> > > > > > > > everyone
> > > > > > > > that isn't muslim). Obviously, this guy was just making a
> > > > > statement
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > shirt and was not a threat, just as all the loud UCSF
> students
> > > > > aren't
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > threat. That was a nasty breach of his civil rights as an
> > > > > American
> > > > > > > > citizen.
> > > > > > > > So how do we fight the IF's? Profile? Hope they all go to
> > > > > Iraq? What
> > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > to do as citizens that want to protect our country from
> > > > > attacks?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So what ever happened to the news about that dude that went
> > > > > GTA with a
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 5000
> > > > > > > > lbs SUV through Fremont and SF? Wasn't that a terrorist act
> > > > > performed
> > > > > > > by a
> > > > > > > > Muslim? Why no news? Is it because he isn't White? Oh, I
> see,
> > > > > he had
> > > > > > > > mental
> > > > > > > > issues.... sure, just like that guy that shot all the people
> > > > > in the LA
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > airport that we never heard about also. Funny how all that
> is
> > > > > covered
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > news is about some white girl that died 10 years ago.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Delia < velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Its interesting that this comes to light at the same
> > > > > > > > > time of as this:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/08/30/state/n130540D11.DTL&hw=arabic+shirt&sn=001&sc=1000
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I know that this kind of discrimination has been going
> > > > > > > > > on since 9/11 but its just ridiculous.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -D.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- Max Dykstra < digerati@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Delia < velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:The
> > > > > > > > > > anti-arab attitudes our
> > > > > > > > > > > government is taking is
> > > > > > > > > > > sickening. It's similar to the Japanese in WWII. I
> > > > > > > > > > > don't think this should be tolerated.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Indeed.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and packing my
> > > > > bongloads!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > aim= junglegurlee510
> > > > > > > > > yahoo= velouria83
> > > > > > > > > google talk= mskittiecat@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > MSN @ WORK = velouria83@yahoo.com
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Jizz showers for EVERYONE!!!

On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Rumsfeld is a fucking idiot.
>
> On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dude, are you getting paid to say this shit? I swear, it's like it's
> coming
> straight from old Rummy himself.
>
> On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Well, how would you define war? There is a specific group of people out
> > there (Islamic extremists) that want to kill you and destroy your way of
>
> > life and they are actively looking for ways to do it.
> >
> >  So that is not war? If they destroyed all the LSD and MDMA precursor
> > chemicals and your family would you still not be at war with them?
> >
> >  I don't care if the "IF's" are black, white, yellow, red, or orange.
> Race
> > has nothing to do with it. If they happen to be of a certain race, well
> it
> > will just make them easier to find and profile, but that is about it.
> >
> >
> > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > "We are at war with them!?!?!"
> > >
> > > ARE YOU FUCKING INSANE?
> > >
> > > Maybe *you* are at war with them, but as far as I'm concerned there is
> > > no 'them' to be at war with.
> > >
> > > This is the basis of racism. I can't say that I'm surprised you don't
> > > see it. You being known for a particularly virulent form of facist
> > > ignorance.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  Well, I still do not see how it is racist. Maybe 99% of Islamic
> > > > Fascist people just happen to be of Arab decent, but that doesn't
> have
> > > > anything to do with the fact that we are at war with them.
> > > >
> > > > I bet 99% of catholic preists that sexually abused kids are white
> and
> > > > I think they need to be prosecuted, is that racist also? Do you get
> my point
> > > > here? Just because a group happens to be of one race does not mean
> one is
> > > > racist for wanting to protect themselves against them.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy < aldendy@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Wow. Just wow.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Our 'enemy' is the Islamic (read: Arab) 'fascists' or Islamic
> > > > > (read: Arab)
> > > > > 'extremists' . . ."
> > > > >
> > > > > That's pretty fucking racist, fool. How many white muslims do you
> > > > > know?
> > > > >
> > > > > Further, read this for an example of how your line of thinking is
> > > > > racist and
> > > > > has created a police state right here in the good old US of A:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> http://pestilence.short-b.us/2006/08/antinazi_slogans_now_offensive.html
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen < sosteen@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How is that racist? Please explain.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy < aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <snip>Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or Islamic extremists,
> > > > > terrorism
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > just a
> > > > > > > form of fighting similar to guerrilla warfare.</snip>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Racist much?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen < sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or Islamic extremists,
> > > > > terrorism is
> > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > form of fighting similar to guerrilla warfare. Anyone can be
> a
> > > > >
> > > > > > > terrorist
> > > > > > > > (Timmothy Mcvay), but the ones we need to concentrate this
> war
> > > > > on are
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > Islamic fascist types (you know the ones that say they want
> to
> > > > > kill
> > > > > > > > everyone
> > > > > > > > that isn't muslim). Obviously, this guy was just making a
> > > > > statement
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > shirt and was not a threat, just as all the loud UCSF
> students
> > > > > aren't
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > threat. That was a nasty breach of his civil rights as an
> > > > > American
> > > > > > > > citizen.
> > > > > > > > So how do we fight the IF's? Profile? Hope they all go to
> > > > > Iraq? What
> > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > to do as citizens that want to protect our country from
> > > > > attacks?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So what ever happened to the news about that dude that went
> > > > > GTA with a
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 5000
> > > > > > > > lbs SUV through Fremont and SF? Wasn't that a terrorist act
> > > > > performed
> > > > > > > by a
> > > > > > > > Muslim? Why no news? Is it because he isn't White? Oh, I
> see,
> > > > > he had
> > > > > > > > mental
> > > > > > > > issues.... sure, just like that guy that shot all the people
>
> > > > > in the LA
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > airport that we never heard about also. Funny how all that
> is
> > > > > covered
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > news is about some white girl that died 10 years ago.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Delia < velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Its interesting that this comes to light at the same
> > > > > > > > > time of as this:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/08/30/state/n130540D11.DTL&hw=arabic+shirt&sn=001&sc=1000
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I know that this kind of discrimination has been going
> > > > > > > > > on since 9/11 but its just ridiculous.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -D.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- Max Dykstra < digerati@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Delia < velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:The
> > > > > > > > > > anti-arab attitudes our
> > > > > > > > > > > government is taking is
> > > > > > > > > > > sickening. It's similar to the Japanese in WWII. I
> > > > > > > > > > > don't think this should be tolerated.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Indeed.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and packing my
> > > > > bongloads!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > aim= junglegurlee510
> > > > > > > > > yahoo= velouria83
> > > > > > > > > google talk= mskittiecat@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > MSN @ WORK = velouria83@yahoo.com
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty - 4 rooms of sound

if you rent out the Concourse or the Cow Palace, we'll make that happen.  ;)


On 8/31/06, Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Sucks there couldn't just be some mega-breaks party somewhere with every
> crew involved. And by "mega", I mean something like "For the Love Of Breaks"
> times 10.

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty - 4 rooms of sound

Ah...by "if YOU", you mean, if someone with money or clout or a crew that 
throws breaks parties regularly...

Oh wait - that's YOU!

;)




>From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
>To: "Van Mundegaarde" <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
>CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty - 4 rooms 
>of sound
>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:33:29 -0700
>
>if you rent out the Concourse or the Cow Palace, we'll make that happen.  
>;)
>
>
>On 8/31/06, Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>Sucks there couldn't just be some mega-breaks party somewhere with every
>>crew involved. And by "mega", I mean something like "For the Love Of 
>>Breaks"
>>times 10.
>
>--
>--------------------------
>< Brandon / DJ Bam >
>
>DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
>http://www.evilbreaks.com
>
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>August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
>August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty - 4 rooms of sound

an all-breaks party?  i'd rather go to an all-psytrance party.

pooh.


On Aug 31, 2006, at 4:31 PM, Van Mundegaarde wrote:

> Yea...these days I just gotta get my fix of fresh blood.
>
> I have seen all the cats on y'alls lineup a rack of times. All  
> solid fucking DJ's/producers.
>
> Sucks there couldn't just be some mega-breaks party somewhere with  
> every crew involved. And by "mega", I mean something like "For the  
> Love Of Breaks" times 10.
>
>
>
>
>> From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
>> To: "Van Mundegaarde" <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
>> CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty -  
>> 4 rooms of sound
>> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:28:08 -0700
>>
>> yeah, when i found out Nick Thayer was playing at Seismic that kinda
>> stung a little bit cause i'd be down to check him out for sure.  ;)
>>
>> just like last year, there seems to be plenty of pre- and post parade
>> parties.  should be a fun weekend!
>>
>>
>> On 8/31/06, Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Nice! If I wasn't about 99% sure I was gonna be at the Seismic event
>>> checking out Nick Thayer & Deekline/Wizard, I'd be all over this  
>>> one...hot
>>> fuckin' lineup!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
>>> >To: SFR <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>>> >Subject: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty - 4  
>>> rooms of
>>> >sound
>>> >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:22:21 -0700
>>> >
>>> >speaking of partying, this is one party that i'm really really  
>>> excited
>>> >about.
>>> >
>>> >1)  it's our afterparty for Lovefest (yes, formely known as Love
>>> >Parade SF) and the party last year that Evil Breaks was a part  
>>> of was
>>> >a fucking blast!
>>> >
>>> >2)  we are working with 3 other crews that i have a huge amount of
>>> >respect for:  Opel, Tantra and the Ambient Mafia.  these are some
>>> >class act crews and very talented folks.  Opel and Tantra have  
>>> thrown
>>> >some AMAZING events over the last few years.  the combination of  
>>> all 4
>>> >crews is going to be fantastic.
>>> >
>>> >3)  the lineup is HUGE!!!  Rennie Pilgrim, Hyper, General
>>> >Midi....these are gigantic names not just in the breaks world  
>>> but in
>>> >the cross-genre global dance music world.  this really is one of  
>>> the
>>> >biggest breaks lineups in SF for the entire year, no joke.
>>> >
>>> >4)  we have SWAT sound and Viberation visuals in our room.  you  
>>> know what's
>>> >up.
>>> >
>>> >5)  it's at SOMARTS bitchez!!!!
>>> >
>>> >limited $20 presales are online at groovetickets:
>>> >http://www.groovetickets.com/ordersystem/Groove/eventviewqb.asp? 
>>> AffilID=93&EventsID=24655&PGname=Opel
>>> >
>>> >--
>>> >
>>> >Opel in Association with
>>> >Evil Breaks, Tantra and the Ambient Mafia presents:
>>> >
>>> >Love Infusion @ SOMArts
>>> >September 23, 2006
>>> >Presales start @ $20
>>> >9pm-6am
>>> >
>>> >This is THE LoveFest Afterparty for 2006. Hands down. Here's  
>>> why.....
>>> >
>>> >Rennie Pilgrem (www.tcr.uk.com)
>>> >Hyper (Hope / Thrive, UK)
>>> >General Midi (TCR / Distinctive / Kilowatt / Boombox, UK)
>>> >Carbon Community (Sober Music / Bless, Dallas, TX)
>>> >J-Break (Afterdark Records, Florida)
>>> >+
>>> >Syd Gris (Opel / Opulent Temple)
>>> >Hoj (Opel / dhhoj.com)
>>> >Aaron Jae (Evil Breaks / XM Radio)
>>> >Melyss (Opel / Sister SF / Cheeky)
>>> >Bam (Evil Breaks / Invibe)
>>> >M.O.D. (Evil Breaks)
>>> >Athena (Evil Breaks)
>>> >Jay Vigor (StrategiK)
>>> >
>>> >with TANTRA and the AMBIENT MAFIA
>>> >
>>> >more BSP info to come shortly....
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >--
>>> >--------------------------
>>> >< Brandon / DJ Bam >
>>> >
>>> >DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
>>> >http://www.evilbreaks.com
>>> >
>>> >August 12th:  Obsoleet
>>> >August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
>>> >August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
>>> >September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
>>> >October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
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>> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
>> August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
>> September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty - 4 rooms of sound

Yea, but "all breaks" encompasses SO much.

Psy-breaks, nuskool, tech-funk, funky, electro, miami bass, baltimore 
breaks, D&B, dubstep, 2step, hip-hop, etc.

You sayin' that's a BAD idea?




>From: "Philip.X.Diaz" <st_indigo@earthlink.net>
>To: The Twilight Laser Outpost <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty - 4 rooms 
>of sound
>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:35:08 -0700
>
>an all-breaks party?  i'd rather go to an all-psytrance party.
>
>pooh.
>
>
>On Aug 31, 2006, at 4:31 PM, Van Mundegaarde wrote:
>
>>Yea...these days I just gotta get my fix of fresh blood.
>>
>>I have seen all the cats on y'alls lineup a rack of times. All  solid 
>>fucking DJ's/producers.
>>
>>Sucks there couldn't just be some mega-breaks party somewhere with  every 
>>crew involved. And by "mega", I mean something like "For the  Love Of 
>>Breaks" times 10.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
>>>To: "Van Mundegaarde" <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
>>>CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>>Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty -  4 
>>>rooms of sound
>>>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:28:08 -0700
>>>
>>>yeah, when i found out Nick Thayer was playing at Seismic that kinda
>>>stung a little bit cause i'd be down to check him out for sure.  ;)
>>>
>>>just like last year, there seems to be plenty of pre- and post parade
>>>parties.  should be a fun weekend!
>>>
>>>
>>>On 8/31/06, Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>Nice! If I wasn't about 99% sure I was gonna be at the Seismic event
>>>>checking out Nick Thayer & Deekline/Wizard, I'd be all over this  
>>>>one...hot
>>>>fuckin' lineup!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
>>>> >To: SFR <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>>>> >Subject: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty - 4  rooms 
>>>>of
>>>> >sound
>>>> >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:22:21 -0700
>>>> >
>>>> >speaking of partying, this is one party that i'm really really  
>>>>excited
>>>> >about.
>>>> >
>>>> >1)  it's our afterparty for Lovefest (yes, formely known as Love
>>>> >Parade SF) and the party last year that Evil Breaks was a part  of was
>>>> >a fucking blast!
>>>> >
>>>> >2)  we are working with 3 other crews that i have a huge amount of
>>>> >respect for:  Opel, Tantra and the Ambient Mafia.  these are some
>>>> >class act crews and very talented folks.  Opel and Tantra have  thrown
>>>> >some AMAZING events over the last few years.  the combination of  all 
>>>>4
>>>> >crews is going to be fantastic.
>>>> >
>>>> >3)  the lineup is HUGE!!!  Rennie Pilgrim, Hyper, General
>>>> >Midi....these are gigantic names not just in the breaks world  but in
>>>> >the cross-genre global dance music world.  this really is one of  the
>>>> >biggest breaks lineups in SF for the entire year, no joke.
>>>> >
>>>> >4)  we have SWAT sound and Viberation visuals in our room.  you  know 
>>>>what's
>>>> >up.
>>>> >
>>>> >5)  it's at SOMARTS bitchez!!!!
>>>> >
>>>> >limited $20 presales are online at groovetickets:
>>>> >http://www.groovetickets.com/ordersystem/Groove/eventviewqb.asp? 
>>>>AffilID=93&EventsID=24655&PGname=Opel
>>>> >
>>>> >--
>>>> >
>>>> >Opel in Association with
>>>> >Evil Breaks, Tantra and the Ambient Mafia presents:
>>>> >
>>>> >Love Infusion @ SOMArts
>>>> >September 23, 2006
>>>> >Presales start @ $20
>>>> >9pm-6am
>>>> >
>>>> >This is THE LoveFest Afterparty for 2006. Hands down. Here's  why.....
>>>> >
>>>> >Rennie Pilgrem (www.tcr.uk.com)
>>>> >Hyper (Hope / Thrive, UK)
>>>> >General Midi (TCR / Distinctive / Kilowatt / Boombox, UK)
>>>> >Carbon Community (Sober Music / Bless, Dallas, TX)
>>>> >J-Break (Afterdark Records, Florida)
>>>> >+
>>>> >Syd Gris (Opel / Opulent Temple)
>>>> >Hoj (Opel / dhhoj.com)
>>>> >Aaron Jae (Evil Breaks / XM Radio)
>>>> >Melyss (Opel / Sister SF / Cheeky)
>>>> >Bam (Evil Breaks / Invibe)
>>>> >M.O.D. (Evil Breaks)
>>>> >Athena (Evil Breaks)
>>>> >Jay Vigor (StrategiK)
>>>> >
>>>> >with TANTRA and the AMBIENT MAFIA
>>>> >
>>>> >more BSP info to come shortly....
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >--
>>>> >--------------------------
>>>> >< Brandon / DJ Bam >
>>>> >
>>>> >DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
>>>> >http://www.evilbreaks.com
>>>> >
>>>> >August 12th:  Obsoleet
>>>> >August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
>>>> >August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
>>>> >September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
>>>> >October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
>>>> >
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty - 4 rooms of sound

oh and here's the full BSP with all DJs:


Tantra, Opel, Evil Breaks and the Ambient Mafia present:

LOVE INFUSION: a SF Lovefest afterparty

Saturday, Sept. 23rd, 2006
SomArts Cultural Center, 934 Brannan St. SF
9pm-6am, 18+ to enter, 21 to drink
View the flyer at: tantrasf.com

FEATURING:

TANTRA presents:

JAHBO (Parvati Records, Denmark) three hour set
PENTA (Auraquake Records, Portugal)
Liam Shy (Tantra)
Moondoggy (Tantra)

OPEL presents:

RENNIE PILGREM (www.tcr.uk.com) (the long awaited return!!)
HYPER (Hope / Thrive, UK)
Syd Gris (Opel / Opulent Temple)
Hoj (Opel / dhhoj.com)
Melyss (Opel / Sister SF / Cheeky)
Smoove (djsmoove.net)

EVIL BREAKS presents :

GENERAL MIDI (TCR / Distinctive / Kilowatt / Boombox, UK)
Carbon Community (Sober Music / Bless, Dallas, TX)
J-Break (Afterdark Records, Florida)
Aaron Jae (Evil Breaks / XM Radio)
Bam (Evil Breaks)
M.O.D. (Evil Breaks)
Athena (Evil Breaks)
Jay Vigor (StrategiK).

AMBIENT MAFIA presents:

Mo Corleone (Want It, Ambient Mafia)
Calamity Jane (WOM, Ambient Mafia)
Hickory vs Sixty4k (rEvolution, Ambient Mafia)
Seventh Swami (Want It, Ambient Mafia)
Speakeasy Ray (Hope Chest, Ambient Mafia)
Redstickman (FnF, Ambient Mafia)


Pre-sales start at $20 at:

www.tantrasf.com
www.opelproductions.com
www.evilbreaks.com
www.ambientmafia.com

4 areas of sound, full bar, chill area, lights, visuals, big
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty - 4 rooms of sound

HOT!!! Nice to see Hickory & Mo Corleone gettin' some damn love around 
here....both very solid DJ's!

YAY!




>From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty - 4 rooms 
>of sound
>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:43:55 -0700
>
>oh and here's the full BSP with all DJs:
>
>
>Tantra, Opel, Evil Breaks and the Ambient Mafia present:
>
>LOVE INFUSION: a SF Lovefest afterparty
>
>Saturday, Sept. 23rd, 2006
>SomArts Cultural Center, 934 Brannan St. SF
>9pm-6am, 18+ to enter, 21 to drink
>View the flyer at: tantrasf.com
>
>FEATURING:
>
>TANTRA presents:
>
>JAHBO (Parvati Records, Denmark) three hour set
>PENTA (Auraquake Records, Portugal)
>Liam Shy (Tantra)
>Moondoggy (Tantra)
>
>OPEL presents:
>
>RENNIE PILGREM (www.tcr.uk.com) (the long awaited return!!)
>HYPER (Hope / Thrive, UK)
>Syd Gris (Opel / Opulent Temple)
>Hoj (Opel / dhhoj.com)
>Melyss (Opel / Sister SF / Cheeky)
>Smoove (djsmoove.net)
>
>EVIL BREAKS presents :
>
>GENERAL MIDI (TCR / Distinctive / Kilowatt / Boombox, UK)
>Carbon Community (Sober Music / Bless, Dallas, TX)
>J-Break (Afterdark Records, Florida)
>Aaron Jae (Evil Breaks / XM Radio)
>Bam (Evil Breaks)
>M.O.D. (Evil Breaks)
>Athena (Evil Breaks)
>Jay Vigor (StrategiK).
>
>AMBIENT MAFIA presents:
>
>Mo Corleone (Want It, Ambient Mafia)
>Calamity Jane (WOM, Ambient Mafia)
>Hickory vs Sixty4k (rEvolution, Ambient Mafia)
>Seventh Swami (Want It, Ambient Mafia)
>Speakeasy Ray (Hope Chest, Ambient Mafia)
>Redstickman (FnF, Ambient Mafia)
>
>
>Pre-sales start at $20 at:
>
>www.tantrasf.com
>www.opelproductions.com
>www.evilbreaks.com
>www.ambientmafia.com
>
>4 areas of sound, full bar, chill area, lights, visuals, big
>sound production
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty - 4 rooms of sound

you're in luck phillip.  we have both breaks and psytrance!

nyuk nyuk nyuk!

ps.  downtempo too.

On 8/31/06, Philip.X.Diaz <st_indigo@earthlink.net> wrote:
> an all-breaks party?  i'd rather go to an all-psytrance party.
>
> pooh.
>
>
> On Aug 31, 2006, at 4:31 PM, Van Mundegaarde wrote:
>
> > Yea...these days I just gotta get my fix of fresh blood.
> >
> > I have seen all the cats on y'alls lineup a rack of times. All
> > solid fucking DJ's/producers.
> >
> > Sucks there couldn't just be some mega-breaks party somewhere with
> > every crew involved. And by "mega", I mean something like "For the
> > Love Of Breaks" times 10.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
> >> To: "Van Mundegaarde" <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
> >> CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty -
> >> 4 rooms of sound
> >> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:28:08 -0700
> >>
> >> yeah, when i found out Nick Thayer was playing at Seismic that kinda
> >> stung a little bit cause i'd be down to check him out for sure.  ;)
> >>
> >> just like last year, there seems to be plenty of pre- and post parade
> >> parties.  should be a fun weekend!
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/31/06, Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Nice! If I wasn't about 99% sure I was gonna be at the Seismic event
> >>> checking out Nick Thayer & Deekline/Wizard, I'd be all over this
> >>> one...hot
> >>> fuckin' lineup!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
> >>> >To: SFR <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> >>> >Subject: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty - 4
> >>> rooms of
> >>> >sound
> >>> >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:22:21 -0700
> >>> >
> >>> >speaking of partying, this is one party that i'm really really
> >>> excited
> >>> >about.
> >>> >
> >>> >1)  it's our afterparty for Lovefest (yes, formely known as Love
> >>> >Parade SF) and the party last year that Evil Breaks was a part
> >>> of was
> >>> >a fucking blast!
> >>> >
> >>> >2)  we are working with 3 other crews that i have a huge amount of
> >>> >respect for:  Opel, Tantra and the Ambient Mafia.  these are some
> >>> >class act crews and very talented folks.  Opel and Tantra have
> >>> thrown
> >>> >some AMAZING events over the last few years.  the combination of
> >>> all 4
> >>> >crews is going to be fantastic.
> >>> >
> >>> >3)  the lineup is HUGE!!!  Rennie Pilgrim, Hyper, General
> >>> >Midi....these are gigantic names not just in the breaks world
> >>> but in
> >>> >the cross-genre global dance music world.  this really is one of
> >>> the
> >>> >biggest breaks lineups in SF for the entire year, no joke.
> >>> >
> >>> >4)  we have SWAT sound and Viberation visuals in our room.  you
> >>> know what's
> >>> >up.
> >>> >
> >>> >5)  it's at SOMARTS bitchez!!!!
> >>> >
> >>> >limited $20 presales are online at groovetickets:
> >>> >http://www.groovetickets.com/ordersystem/Groove/eventviewqb.asp?
> >>> AffilID=93&EventsID=24655&PGname=Opel
> >>> >
> >>> >--
> >>> >
> >>> >Opel in Association with
> >>> >Evil Breaks, Tantra and the Ambient Mafia presents:
> >>> >
> >>> >Love Infusion @ SOMArts
> >>> >September 23, 2006
> >>> >Presales start @ $20
> >>> >9pm-6am
> >>> >
> >>> >This is THE LoveFest Afterparty for 2006. Hands down. Here's
> >>> why.....
> >>> >
> >>> >Rennie Pilgrem (www.tcr.uk.com)
> >>> >Hyper (Hope / Thrive, UK)
> >>> >General Midi (TCR / Distinctive / Kilowatt / Boombox, UK)
> >>> >Carbon Community (Sober Music / Bless, Dallas, TX)
> >>> >J-Break (Afterdark Records, Florida)
> >>> >+
> >>> >Syd Gris (Opel / Opulent Temple)
> >>> >Hoj (Opel / dhhoj.com)
> >>> >Aaron Jae (Evil Breaks / XM Radio)
> >>> >Melyss (Opel / Sister SF / Cheeky)
> >>> >Bam (Evil Breaks / Invibe)
> >>> >M.O.D. (Evil Breaks)
> >>> >Athena (Evil Breaks)
> >>> >Jay Vigor (StrategiK)
> >>> >
> >>> >with TANTRA and the AMBIENT MAFIA
> >>> >
> >>> >more BSP info to come shortly....
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >--
> >>> >--------------------------
> >>> >< Brandon / DJ Bam >
> >>> >
> >>> >DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
> >>> >http://www.evilbreaks.com
> >>> >
> >>> >August 12th:  Obsoleet
> >>> >August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
> >>> >August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
> >>> >September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
> >>> >October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
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> >> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
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DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
http://www.evilbreaks.com

August 12th:  Obsoleet
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August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
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Subject: RE: [sfraves] NRR: Terrorists "drive taxi cabs in the daytime and kill at night"

Ditto.

CJ 

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i'm at war with stupid people.

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty - 4 rooms of sound

yeah, but i'll be in Chicago that weekend!

pxd


On Aug 31, 2006, at 4:45 PM, Bam wrote:

> you're in luck phillip.  we have both breaks and psytrance!
>
> nyuk nyuk nyuk!
>
> ps.  downtempo too.
>
> On 8/31/06, Philip.X.Diaz <st_indigo@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> an all-breaks party?  i'd rather go to an all-psytrance party.
>>
>> pooh.
>>
>>
>> On Aug 31, 2006, at 4:31 PM, Van Mundegaarde wrote:
>>
>> > Yea...these days I just gotta get my fix of fresh blood.
>> >
>> > I have seen all the cats on y'alls lineup a rack of times. All
>> > solid fucking DJ's/producers.
>> >
>> > Sucks there couldn't just be some mega-breaks party somewhere with
>> > every crew involved. And by "mega", I mean something like "For the
>> > Love Of Breaks" times 10.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
>> >> To: "Van Mundegaarde" <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
>> >> CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty -
>> >> 4 rooms of sound
>> >> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:28:08 -0700
>> >>
>> >> yeah, when i found out Nick Thayer was playing at Seismic that  
>> kinda
>> >> stung a little bit cause i'd be down to check him out for  
>> sure.  ;)
>> >>
>> >> just like last year, there seems to be plenty of pre- and post  
>> parade
>> >> parties.  should be a fun weekend!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 8/31/06, Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> Nice! If I wasn't about 99% sure I was gonna be at the Seismic  
>> event
>> >>> checking out Nick Thayer & Deekline/Wizard, I'd be all over this
>> >>> one...hot
>> >>> fuckin' lineup!
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> >From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
>> >>> >To: SFR <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>> >>> >Subject: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty - 4
>> >>> rooms of
>> >>> >sound
>> >>> >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:22:21 -0700
>> >>> >
>> >>> >speaking of partying, this is one party that i'm really really
>> >>> excited
>> >>> >about.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >1)  it's our afterparty for Lovefest (yes, formely known as Love
>> >>> >Parade SF) and the party last year that Evil Breaks was a part
>> >>> of was
>> >>> >a fucking blast!
>> >>> >
>> >>> >2)  we are working with 3 other crews that i have a huge  
>> amount of
>> >>> >respect for:  Opel, Tantra and the Ambient Mafia.  these are  
>> some
>> >>> >class act crews and very talented folks.  Opel and Tantra have
>> >>> thrown
>> >>> >some AMAZING events over the last few years.  the combination of
>> >>> all 4
>> >>> >crews is going to be fantastic.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >3)  the lineup is HUGE!!!  Rennie Pilgrim, Hyper, General
>> >>> >Midi....these are gigantic names not just in the breaks world
>> >>> but in
>> >>> >the cross-genre global dance music world.  this really is one of
>> >>> the
>> >>> >biggest breaks lineups in SF for the entire year, no joke.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >4)  we have SWAT sound and Viberation visuals in our room.  you
>> >>> know what's
>> >>> >up.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >5)  it's at SOMARTS bitchez!!!!
>> >>> >
>> >>> >limited $20 presales are online at groovetickets:
>> >>> >http://www.groovetickets.com/ordersystem/Groove/eventviewqb.asp?
>> >>> AffilID=93&EventsID=24655&PGname=Opel
>> >>> >
>> >>> >--
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Opel in Association with
>> >>> >Evil Breaks, Tantra and the Ambient Mafia presents:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Love Infusion @ SOMArts
>> >>> >September 23, 2006
>> >>> >Presales start @ $20
>> >>> >9pm-6am
>> >>> >
>> >>> >This is THE LoveFest Afterparty for 2006. Hands down. Here's
>> >>> why.....
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Rennie Pilgrem (www.tcr.uk.com)
>> >>> >Hyper (Hope / Thrive, UK)
>> >>> >General Midi (TCR / Distinctive / Kilowatt / Boombox, UK)
>> >>> >Carbon Community (Sober Music / Bless, Dallas, TX)
>> >>> >J-Break (Afterdark Records, Florida)
>> >>> >+
>> >>> >Syd Gris (Opel / Opulent Temple)
>> >>> >Hoj (Opel / dhhoj.com)
>> >>> >Aaron Jae (Evil Breaks / XM Radio)
>> >>> >Melyss (Opel / Sister SF / Cheeky)
>> >>> >Bam (Evil Breaks / Invibe)
>> >>> >M.O.D. (Evil Breaks)
>> >>> >Athena (Evil Breaks)
>> >>> >Jay Vigor (StrategiK)
>> >>> >
>> >>> >with TANTRA and the AMBIENT MAFIA
>> >>> >
>> >>> >more BSP info to come shortly....
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >--
>> >>> >--------------------------
>> >>> >< Brandon / DJ Bam >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
>> >>> >http://www.evilbreaks.com
>> >>> >
>> >>> >August 12th:  Obsoleet
>> >>> >August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
>> >>> >August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
>> >>> >September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
>> >>> >October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
>> >>> >
>> >>>  
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>> >>
>> >> DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
>> >> http://www.evilbreaks.com
>> >>
>> >> August 12th:  Obsoleet
>> >> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
>> >> August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
>> >> September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
>> >> October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
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> --------------------------
> < Brandon / DJ Bam >
>
> DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
> http://www.evilbreaks.com
>
> August 12th:  Obsoleet
> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
> August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
> September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
> October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's


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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty - 4 rooms of sound

How about getting beyond breaks, trance and electro while we're at it?

Stay tuned for a new unter/uber-ish party for those wanting to go back
into the box.

Ping me your details and I'll add you to the info list.

~Jenn~
babd.org

On 8/31/06, Philip.X.Diaz <st_indigo@earthlink.net> wrote:
> yeah, but i'll be in Chicago that weekend!
>
> pxd
>
>
> On Aug 31, 2006, at 4:45 PM, Bam wrote:
>
> > you're in luck phillip.  we have both breaks and psytrance!
> >
> > nyuk nyuk nyuk!
> >
> > ps.  downtempo too.
> >
> > On 8/31/06, Philip.X.Diaz <st_indigo@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> an all-breaks party?  i'd rather go to an all-psytrance party.
> >>
> >> pooh.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Aug 31, 2006, at 4:31 PM, Van Mundegaarde wrote:
> >>
> >> > Yea...these days I just gotta get my fix of fresh blood.
> >> >
> >> > I have seen all the cats on y'alls lineup a rack of times. All
> >> > solid fucking DJ's/producers.
> >> >
> >> > Sucks there couldn't just be some mega-breaks party somewhere with
> >> > every crew involved. And by "mega", I mean something like "For the
> >> > Love Of Breaks" times 10.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
> >> >> To: "Van Mundegaarde" <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
> >> >> CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> >> >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty -
> >> >> 4 rooms of sound
> >> >> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:28:08 -0700
> >> >>
> >> >> yeah, when i found out Nick Thayer was playing at Seismic that
> >> kinda
> >> >> stung a little bit cause i'd be down to check him out for
> >> sure.  ;)
> >> >>
> >> >> just like last year, there seems to be plenty of pre- and post
> >> parade
> >> >> parties.  should be a fun weekend!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 8/31/06, Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>> Nice! If I wasn't about 99% sure I was gonna be at the Seismic
> >> event
> >> >>> checking out Nick Thayer & Deekline/Wizard, I'd be all over this
> >> >>> one...hot
> >> >>> fuckin' lineup!
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> >From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
> >> >>> >To: SFR <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> >> >>> >Subject: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty - 4
> >> >>> rooms of
> >> >>> >sound
> >> >>> >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:22:21 -0700
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >speaking of partying, this is one party that i'm really really
> >> >>> excited
> >> >>> >about.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >1)  it's our afterparty for Lovefest (yes, formely known as Love
> >> >>> >Parade SF) and the party last year that Evil Breaks was a part
> >> >>> of was
> >> >>> >a fucking blast!
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >2)  we are working with 3 other crews that i have a huge
> >> amount of
> >> >>> >respect for:  Opel, Tantra and the Ambient Mafia.  these are
> >> some
> >> >>> >class act crews and very talented folks.  Opel and Tantra have
> >> >>> thrown
> >> >>> >some AMAZING events over the last few years.  the combination of
> >> >>> all 4
> >> >>> >crews is going to be fantastic.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >3)  the lineup is HUGE!!!  Rennie Pilgrim, Hyper, General
> >> >>> >Midi....these are gigantic names not just in the breaks world
> >> >>> but in
> >> >>> >the cross-genre global dance music world.  this really is one of
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> >biggest breaks lineups in SF for the entire year, no joke.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >4)  we have SWAT sound and Viberation visuals in our room.  you
> >> >>> know what's
> >> >>> >up.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >5)  it's at SOMARTS bitchez!!!!
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >limited $20 presales are online at groovetickets:
> >> >>> >http://www.groovetickets.com/ordersystem/Groove/eventviewqb.asp?
> >> >>> AffilID=93&EventsID=24655&PGname=Opel
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >--
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >Opel in Association with
> >> >>> >Evil Breaks, Tantra and the Ambient Mafia presents:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >Love Infusion @ SOMArts
> >> >>> >September 23, 2006
> >> >>> >Presales start @ $20
> >> >>> >9pm-6am
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >This is THE LoveFest Afterparty for 2006. Hands down. Here's
> >> >>> why.....
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >Rennie Pilgrem (www.tcr.uk.com)
> >> >>> >Hyper (Hope / Thrive, UK)
> >> >>> >General Midi (TCR / Distinctive / Kilowatt / Boombox, UK)
> >> >>> >Carbon Community (Sober Music / Bless, Dallas, TX)
> >> >>> >J-Break (Afterdark Records, Florida)
> >> >>> >+
> >> >>> >Syd Gris (Opel / Opulent Temple)
> >> >>> >Hoj (Opel / dhhoj.com)
> >> >>> >Aaron Jae (Evil Breaks / XM Radio)
> >> >>> >Melyss (Opel / Sister SF / Cheeky)
> >> >>> >Bam (Evil Breaks / Invibe)
> >> >>> >M.O.D. (Evil Breaks)
> >> >>> >Athena (Evil Breaks)
> >> >>> >Jay Vigor (StrategiK)
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >with TANTRA and the AMBIENT MAFIA
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >more BSP info to come shortly....
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >--
> >> >>> >--------------------------
> >> >>> >< Brandon / DJ Bam >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
> >> >>> >http://www.evilbreaks.com
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >August 12th:  Obsoleet
> >> >>> >August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
> >> >>> >August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
> >> >>> >September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
> >> >>> >October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
> >> >>> >
> >> >>>
> >> >-------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >> >>
> >> >> DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
> >> >> http://www.evilbreaks.com
> >> >>
> >> >> August 12th:  Obsoleet
> >> >> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
> >> >> August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
> >> >> September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
> >> >> October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
> >> >
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> > --
> > --------------------------
> > < Brandon / DJ Bam >
> >
> > DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
> > http://www.evilbreaks.com
> >
> > August 12th:  Obsoleet
> > August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
> > August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
> > September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
> > October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey guys..

OK, well I've been to four and I would do more if babysitting and finances permitted.  I think this is pretty good for an old guy with 4 kids actually.

Peter

----- Original Message ----
From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
To: Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 3:00:48 PM
Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey guys..

i think if the majority of people on the SFR list have not attended
more than 4 raves or underground or unpermitted parties with
electronic dance music in 2006...then there is something severly
wrong.

that's only 4 parties in 8 months, but i think i actually believe that
the majority on the list hasn't done that.

shame shame...

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Terrorists "drive taxi cabs in the daytime and kill at night"

>From an interview with author and screenwriter Peter Schneider which I read=
 today which I think is relevant and interesting:


 MM: Were the Red Brigades terrifying? =20
 PS: I always wondered, because I knew personally the first generation of t=
he Red Brigades. I knew them all. I know how it worked. As a matter of a fa=
ct, there are quite striking parallels between Islamic terrorism and the br=
igades. =20
 MM: What are the parallels? =20
 PS: The parallel is this culture of death. And the fact that in order to e=
nd up with this decision to kill and be killed, to commit suicide and take =
as many with you as you can, this logic is not one with the poor and suppre=
ssed of the world. It is an elite phenomenon. It has more to do with nihili=
sm than with any religion. To call it Islam is already misleading, because =
these guys are crazy politicians, ego-maniacs, disguised as religious fanat=
ics. It has nothing to do with religion. They're just criminals and fanatic=
s, total ego-maniacs. It's about egoism, solipsism, and not so much about r=
eligion. The war in Iraq has nothing to do with the fight against terrorism=
, it is a total deflection from this fight. The real danger is not these te=
rrorists, though they are dangerous, of course, but that millions of people=
 in the Arab world see them as heroes and identify with them. This is somet=
hing that you cannot heal with military campaigns. Here you must work with =
diplomacy,
 aid, politics. We have to ask ourselves: why do so many people identify wi=
th these idiots? =20
 MM: For Camus, "a nihilist does not believe what he sees". I visualize an =
economic war. =20
 PS: Yes, but we should not underestimate ideology. If people are now led b=
y Islamic fanatics, by priests, who tell them what to do, and if they do it=
 early enough, a boy of eight will start saying: "Yes, I want to be a suici=
de bomber, I want to be a suicide bomber. Allah is big in the world." It is=
 not only about economics. =20
 MM: Isn't culture a form of self-protection? =20
 PS: Absolutely. Culture is the most important thing we have to protect us =
against these forces. =20
 MM: Then why are governments withdrawing from culture? =20
 PS: This whole Bush thing is a culture of hypocrisy. This is all wrong, wh=
atever they say is just a lie. They say: "We want to care for the poor." Th=
ey act in the opposite direction. What is fascinating is that most of these=
 guys, who from my point of view are total liars, still believe they are ac=
tually good people, doing good, and that what is in their interests is good=
 for everyone in this world. They still believe that. They have a wonderful=
 insensitivity. They are unable to see themselves from another perspective.=
 Americans are very proud that this is the most mixed culture in the world,=
 but you only know the American version of otherness. You only know the Ame=
rican version of an Italian. You only know the American version of the Iris=
h people, of a Mexican, of a Spaniard or an Asian.


http://books.guardian.co.uk/news/articles/0,,1500481,00.html

----- Original Message ----
From: Philip Sternberg <philip@eccentric.org>
To: Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com>
Cc: Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com>; sfraves@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 4:01:22 PM
Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Terrorists "drive taxi cabs in the daytime and =
kill at night"

The term "fascist" gets thrown around a lot, and often it's misapplied.

fas=E2=80=A7cism=E2=80=82 /=CB=88f=C3=A6=CA=83=C9=AAz=C9=99m/ - [fash-iz-uh=
m]
=E2=80=93noun
1.(sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a
dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and
criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing
an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
2.(sometimes initial capital letter) the philosophy, principles, or
methods of fascism.

Terrorism is specifically when non-governmental groups attack civilian
concerns.  So in some sense terrorist and fascist are mutually
exclusive.  There's clearly a lot of gray area, (for instance, a
fascist state providing support to a terrorist organization, or a
group of terrorist who want to take over a government to impose
fascist rule) but blowing up passenger jets for the purpose of
instilling fear in the populace of another country is not really a
fascist act.

And on one of the other points--there are millions of non-arab muslims
in the world, both extremist and otherwise.

Philip


On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
> "We are at war with them!?!?!"
>
> ARE YOU FUCKING INSANE?
>
> Maybe *you* are at war with them, but as far as I'm concerned there is no
> 'them' to be at war with.
>
> This is the basis of racism. I can't say that I'm surprised you don't see
> it. You being known for a particularly virulent form of facist ignorance.
>
> On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Well, I still do not see how it is racist. Maybe 99% of Islamic
> > Fascist people just happen to be of Arab decent, but that doesn't have
> > anything to do with the fact that we are at war with them.
> >
> > I bet 99% of catholic preists that sexually abused kids are white and I
> > think they need to be prosecuted, is that racist also? Do you get my po=
int
> > here? Just because a group happens to be of one race does not mean one =
is
> > racist for wanting to protect themselves against them.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > Wow. Just wow.
> > >
> > > "Our 'enemy' is the Islamic (read: Arab) 'fascists' or Islamic (read:
> > > Arab)
> > > 'extremists' . . ."
> > >
> > > That's pretty fucking racist, fool. How many white muslims do you kno=
w?
> > >
> > > Further, read this for an example of how your line of thinking is rac=
ist
> > > and
> > > has created a police state right here in the good old US of A:
> > >
> > > http://pestilence.short-b.us/2006/08/antinazi_slogans_now_offensive.h=
tml
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen < sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > How is that racist? Please explain.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > <snip>Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or Islamic extremists,
> > > terrorism
> > > > > is
> > > > > just a
> > > > > form of fighting similar to guerrilla warfare.</snip>
> > > > >
> > > > > Racist much?
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen < sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or Islamic extremists, terror=
ism
> > > is
> > > > > just
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > form of fighting similar to guerrilla warfare. Anyone can be a
> > > > > terrorist
> > > > > > (Timmothy Mcvay), but the ones we need to concentrate this war =
on
> > > are
> > > > > the
> > > > > > Islamic fascist types (you know the ones that say they want to
> > > kill
> > > > > > everyone
> > > > > > that isn't muslim). Obviously, this guy was just making a
> > > statement
> > > > > with
> > > > > > his
> > > > > > shirt and was not a threat, just as all the loud UCSF students
> > > aren't
> > > > > a
> > > > > > threat. That was a nasty breach of his civil rights as an Ameri=
can
> > > > > > citizen.
> > > > > > So how do we fight the IF's? Profile? Hope they all go to Iraq?
> > > What
> > > > > are
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > to do as citizens that want to protect our country from attacks=
?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So what ever happened to the news about that dude that went GTA
> > > with a
> > > > >
> > > > > > 5000
> > > > > > lbs SUV through Fremont and SF? Wasn't that a terrorist act
> > > performed
> > > > > by a
> > > > > > Muslim? Why no news? Is it because he isn't White? Oh, I see, h=
e
> > > had
> > > > > > mental
> > > > > > issues.... sure, just like that guy that shot all the people in
> > > the LA
> > > > >
> > > > > > airport that we never heard about also. Funny how all that is
> > > covered
> > > > > on
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > news is about some white girl that died 10 years ago.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 8/31/06, Delia < velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Its interesting that this comes to light at the same
> > > > > > > time of as this:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=3D/n/a/2006/08/30/sta=
te/n130540D11.DTL&hw=3Darabic+shirt&sn=3D001&sc=3D1000
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I know that this kind of discrimination has been going
> > > > > > > on since 9/11 but its just ridiculous.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -D.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- Max Dykstra < digerati@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Delia < velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:The
> > > > > > > > anti-arab attitudes our
> > > > > > > > > government is taking is
> > > > > > > > > sickening. It's similar to the Japanese in WWII. I
> > > > > > > > > don't think this should be tolerated.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Indeed.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > a man's place is in the kitchen...barefoot and packing my
> > > bongloads!
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > aim=3D junglegurlee510
> > > > > > > yahoo=3D velouria83
> > > > > > > google talk=3D mskittiecat@gmail.com
> > > > > > > MSN @ WORK =3D velouria83@yahoo.com
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
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> > > > > > http://www.SlumberMachine.com <http://www.slumbermachine.com/>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
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> > > > http://www.SlumberMachine.com <http://www.slumbermachine.com/>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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> >
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I think this is true about mailing lists in general not just sfraves.  However, the lsit could do with a bit of promotion, and if there was more content only available through the list, i.e. like a really useful activity calendar, then people would come here to get that content.  In the absence of that its just digestive rumblings from the peanut gallery and the much welcomed BSPs and party reviews.

Peter

----- Original Message ----
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Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 3:09:57 PM
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Its not necessary anymore I dont think with tribe,
myspace etc. but still nice to have. It's lost its
energy really. As mentioned before few really post
about parties or music, and I think thats why.

my .02

Delia

--- Bam <invibe@gmail.com> wrote:

> is this list even a neccessary means of
> communication for this
> community anymore?
> 
> discuss.
> 
> 
> -- 
> --------------------------
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> 
> DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
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Subject: [sfraves] BSP: Folded @ Anu w/ Bobby Valentine

.folded. @ Anu (43 Sixth St. @ Market, SF)

Friday, September 1st, 10PM - 2AM

*No Cover* as always

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This Month Features:

Bobby Valentine - Los Angeles (greenhouse, funky formula, oomph)

Still Rob G (om records)

Audio Angel (sister sf, groundscore, compression)

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Terrorists "drive taxi cabs in the daytime and kill at night"

NAH..thats nothing compared to what i've seen
before...you guys still are not at full potential;)

-D.

--- Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> It made sense either way...so...your "gun" is still
> working, just needs a 
> cleaning.
> 
> Damn Delai - was that homo-erotic enough for ya?
> 
> I'm talking about dudes "cleaning their guns" over
> here and whatnot ;)
> 
> (gun...pistol...sex pistol...penis...get it?)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Philip.X.Diaz" <st_indigo@earthlink.net>
> >To: The Twilight Laser Outpost
> <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Terrorists "drive taxi
> cabs in the daytime and 
> >kill at night"
> >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:12:27 -0700
> >
> >er, GUN.  hah. maybe i need to blast myself with
> it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Aug 31, 2006, at 4:10 PM, Philip.X.Diaz wrote:
> >
> >>i don't shoot them.  i blast them with my MENTAL
> RAY GUY.
> >>
> >>
> >>On Aug 31, 2006, at 4:15 PM, Van Mundegaarde
> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Man...I hope you have a LOT of bullets then.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>From: "Philip.X.Diaz" <st_indigo@earthlink.net>
> >>>>To: The Twilight Laser Outpost
> <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> >>>>Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Terrorists "drive
> taxi cabs in the  daytime 
> >>>>and kill at night"
> >>>>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:00:04 -0700
> >>>>
> >>>>i'm at war with stupid people.
> >>>>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Terrorists "drive taxi cabs in the daytime and kill at night"

NOW THATS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!! lol


Alex gets the homo erotic award for the day kthx

-D.


--- Alex Laughlin-Dendy <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:

> Jizz showers for EVERYONE!!!
> 
> On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Rumsfeld is a fucking idiot.
> >
> > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy
> <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Dude, are you getting paid to say this shit? I
> swear, it's like it's
> > coming
> > straight from old Rummy himself.
> >
> > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, how would you define war? There is a
> specific group of people out
> > > there (Islamic extremists) that want to kill you
> and destroy your way of
> >
> > > life and they are actively looking for ways to
> do it.
> > >
> > >  So that is not war? If they destroyed all the
> LSD and MDMA precursor
> > > chemicals and your family would you still not be
> at war with them?
> > >
> > >  I don't care if the "IF's" are black, white,
> yellow, red, or orange.
> > Race
> > > has nothing to do with it. If they happen to be
> of a certain race, well
> > it
> > > will just make them easier to find and profile,
> but that is about it.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy
> <aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "We are at war with them!?!?!"
> > > >
> > > > ARE YOU FUCKING INSANE?
> > > >
> > > > Maybe *you* are at war with them, but as far
> as I'm concerned there is
> > > > no 'them' to be at war with.
> > > >
> > > > This is the basis of racism. I can't say that
> I'm surprised you don't
> > > > see it. You being known for a particularly
> virulent form of facist
> > > > ignorance.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <sosteen@gmail.com >
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >  Well, I still do not see how it is racist.
> Maybe 99% of Islamic
> > > > > Fascist people just happen to be of Arab
> decent, but that doesn't
> > have
> > > > > anything to do with the fact that we are at
> war with them.
> > > > >
> > > > > I bet 99% of catholic preists that sexually
> abused kids are white
> > and
> > > > > I think they need to be prosecuted, is that
> racist also? Do you get
> > my point
> > > > > here? Just because a group happens to be of
> one race does not mean
> > one is
> > > > > racist for wanting to protect themselves
> against them.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <
> aldendy@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wow. Just wow.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Our 'enemy' is the Islamic (read: Arab)
> 'fascists' or Islamic
> > > > > > (read: Arab)
> > > > > > 'extremists' . . ."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's pretty fucking racist, fool. How
> many white muslims do you
> > > > > > know?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Further, read this for an example of how
> your line of thinking is
> > > > > > racist and
> > > > > > has created a police state right here in
> the good old US of A:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> >
>
http://pestilence.short-b.us/2006/08/antinazi_slogans_now_offensive.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <
> sosteen@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How is that racist? Please explain.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Alex Laughlin-Dendy <
> aldendy@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > <snip>Our enemy is the Islamic
> fascists or Islamic extremists,
> > > > > > terrorism
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > just a
> > > > > > > > form of fighting similar to guerrilla
> warfare.</snip>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Racist much?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Steve Osteen <
> sosteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Our enemy is the Islamic fascists or
> Islamic extremists,
> > > > > > terrorism is
> > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > form of fighting similar to
> guerrilla warfare. Anyone can be
> > a
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > terrorist
> > > > > > > > > (Timmothy Mcvay), but the ones we
> need to concentrate this
> > war
> > > > > > on are
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > Islamic fascist types (you know the
> ones that say they want
> > to
> > > > > > kill
> > > > > > > > > everyone
> > > > > > > > > that isn't muslim). Obviously, this
> guy was just making a
> > > > > > statement
> > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > > shirt and was not a threat, just as
> all the loud UCSF
> > students
> > > > > > aren't
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > threat. That was a nasty breach of
> his civil rights as an
> > > > > > American
> > > > > > > > > citizen.
> > > > > > > > > So how do we fight the IF's?
> Profile? Hope they all go to
> > > > > > Iraq? What
> > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > to do as citizens that want to
> protect our country from
> > > > > > attacks?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So what ever happened to the news
> about that dude that went
> > > > > > GTA with a
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 5000
> > > > > > > > > lbs SUV through Fremont and SF?
> Wasn't that a terrorist act
> > > > > > performed
> > > > > > > > by a
> > > > > > > > > Muslim? Why no news? Is it because
> he isn't White? Oh, I
> > see,
> > > > > > he had
> > > > > > > > > mental
> > > > > > > > > issues.... sure, just like that guy
> that shot all the people
> >
> > > > > > in the LA
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > airport that we never heard about
> also. Funny how all that
> > is
> > > > > > covered
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > news is about some white girl that
> died 10 years ago.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Delia <
> velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Its interesting that this comes to
> light at the same
> > > > > > > > > > time of as this:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> >
>
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/08/30/state/n130540D11.DTL&hw=arabic+shirt&sn=001&sc=1000
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I know that this kind of
> discrimination has been going
> > > > > > > > > > on since 9/11 but its just
> ridiculous.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -D.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- Max Dykstra <
> digerati@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/31/06, Delia <
> velouria83@yahoo.com> wrote:The
> > > > > > > > > > > anti-arab attitudes our
> > > > > > > > > > > > government is taking is
> > > > > > > > > > > > sickening. It's similar to the
> Japanese in WWII. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > don't think this should be
> tolerated.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Indeed.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > a man's place is in the
> kitchen...barefoot and packing my
> > > > > > bongloads!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > aim= junglegurlee510
> > > > > > > > > > yahoo= velouria83
> > > > > > > > > > google talk= mskittiecat@gmail.com
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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I'm just glad to hear that DJ Funk is going to be in town at Mighty...just
sad I'm going to miss it.  He would spin at undergrounds here in Chicago
back in the day..."Let me see yo' check stub...git yo' own check stub"....ah
memories!

BTW, I've been to many of the UGs in SF the past 8 months, and they are all
quite similar...mainly focused on breaks...which I love, but I like more
variety at parties...can't WAIT for Lovefest...and I don't have a car, so
getting across the bay is quite difficult for me, so only the UGs in SF
proper...


On 8/31/06, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> OK, well I've been to four and I would do more if babysitting and finances
> permitted.  I think this is pretty good for an old guy with 4 kids actually.
>
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message ----
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>
> i think if the majority of people on the SFR list have not attended
> more than 4 raves or underground or unpermitted parties with
> electronic dance music in 2006...then there is something severly
> wrong.
>
> that's only 4 parties in 8 months, but i think i actually believe that
> the majority on the list hasn't done that.
>
> shame shame...
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Tiesto live sets

It's cool to hate on Tiesto. :)  I like him, though.  Good luck on your 
search.

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> Hi,
>
> I have a problem. I watched a Tiesto liveset on winamp. It was called DJ
> Tiesto @ Homelands, Matterley. I don't know if this is right or not but 
> that
> set was amazing. Can anybody help me in getting the tracks. Also, can 
> anyone
> tell me which is the best place in the bay area to buy DVD sets for live
> trance concerts.
>
> Any help in this regard will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards
> 



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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty - 4 rooms of sound

Hey, he only has one 'L'

Get yo shit straight!

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> you're in luck phillip.  we have both breaks and psytrance!
>
> nyuk nyuk nyuk!
>
> ps.  downtempo too.
>
> On 8/31/06, Philip.X.Diaz <st_indigo@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> an all-breaks party?  i'd rather go to an all-psytrance party.
>>
>> pooh.
>>
>>
>> On Aug 31, 2006, at 4:31 PM, Van Mundegaarde wrote:
>>
>> > Yea...these days I just gotta get my fix of fresh blood.
>> >
>> > I have seen all the cats on y'alls lineup a rack of times. All
>> > solid fucking DJ's/producers.
>> >
>> > Sucks there couldn't just be some mega-breaks party somewhere with
>> > every crew involved. And by "mega", I mean something like "For the
>> > Love Of Breaks" times 10.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
>> >> To: "Van Mundegaarde" <electrofunk138@hotmail.com>
>> >> CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty -
>> >> 4 rooms of sound
>> >> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:28:08 -0700
>> >>
>> >> yeah, when i found out Nick Thayer was playing at Seismic that kinda
>> >> stung a little bit cause i'd be down to check him out for sure.  ;)
>> >>
>> >> just like last year, there seems to be plenty of pre- and post parade
>> >> parties.  should be a fun weekend!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 8/31/06, Van Mundegaarde <electrofunk138@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> Nice! If I wasn't about 99% sure I was gonna be at the Seismic event
>> >>> checking out Nick Thayer & Deekline/Wizard, I'd be all over this
>> >>> one...hot
>> >>> fuckin' lineup!
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> >From: Bam <invibe@gmail.com>
>> >>> >To: SFR <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>> >>> >Subject: [sfraves] BSP: LOVE INFUSION - Lovefest Afterparty - 4
>> >>> rooms of
>> >>> >sound
>> >>> >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:22:21 -0700
>> >>> >
>> >>> >speaking of partying, this is one party that i'm really really
>> >>> excited
>> >>> >about.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >1)  it's our afterparty for Lovefest (yes, formely known as Love
>> >>> >Parade SF) and the party last year that Evil Breaks was a part
>> >>> of was
>> >>> >a fucking blast!
>> >>> >
>> >>> >2)  we are working with 3 other crews that i have a huge amount of
>> >>> >respect for:  Opel, Tantra and the Ambient Mafia.  these are some
>> >>> >class act crews and very talented folks.  Opel and Tantra have
>> >>> thrown
>> >>> >some AMAZING events over the last few years.  the combination of
>> >>> all 4
>> >>> >crews is going to be fantastic.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >3)  the lineup is HUGE!!!  Rennie Pilgrim, Hyper, General
>> >>> >Midi....these are gigantic names not just in the breaks world
>> >>> but in
>> >>> >the cross-genre global dance music world.  this really is one of
>> >>> the
>> >>> >biggest breaks lineups in SF for the entire year, no joke.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >4)  we have SWAT sound and Viberation visuals in our room.  you
>> >>> know what's
>> >>> >up.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >5)  it's at SOMARTS bitchez!!!!
>> >>> >
>> >>> >limited $20 presales are online at groovetickets:
>> >>> >http://www.groovetickets.com/ordersystem/Groove/eventviewqb.asp?
>> >>> AffilID=93&EventsID=24655&PGname=Opel
>> >>> >
>> >>> >--
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Opel in Association with
>> >>> >Evil Breaks, Tantra and the Ambient Mafia presents:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Love Infusion @ SOMArts
>> >>> >September 23, 2006
>> >>> >Presales start @ $20
>> >>> >9pm-6am
>> >>> >
>> >>> >This is THE LoveFest Afterparty for 2006. Hands down. Here's
>> >>> why.....
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Rennie Pilgrem (www.tcr.uk.com)
>> >>> >Hyper (Hope / Thrive, UK)
>> >>> >General Midi (TCR / Distinctive / Kilowatt / Boombox, UK)
>> >>> >Carbon Community (Sober Music / Bless, Dallas, TX)
>> >>> >J-Break (Afterdark Records, Florida)
>> >>> >+
>> >>> >Syd Gris (Opel / Opulent Temple)
>> >>> >Hoj (Opel / dhhoj.com)
>> >>> >Aaron Jae (Evil Breaks / XM Radio)
>> >>> >Melyss (Opel / Sister SF / Cheeky)
>> >>> >Bam (Evil Breaks / Invibe)
>> >>> >M.O.D. (Evil Breaks)
>> >>> >Athena (Evil Breaks)
>> >>> >Jay Vigor (StrategiK)
>> >>> >
>> >>> >with TANTRA and the AMBIENT MAFIA
>> >>> >
>> >>> >more BSP info to come shortly....
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >--
>> >>> >--------------------------
>> >>> >< Brandon / DJ Bam >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
>> >>> >http://www.evilbreaks.com
>> >>> >
>> >>> >August 12th:  Obsoleet
>> >>> >August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
>> >>> >August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
>> >>> >September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
>> >>> >October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
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>> >> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
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>> >> October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
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> DJ Bam - serving breaks and beats
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> August 16th:  Bassdrop @ BOCA
> August 18th:  Mighty Breaks w/ Autobots
> September 23rd:  Lovefest and Afterparty
> October 27th:  Aquasky @ Jelly's
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