From sfraves-return-151778-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Jan 02 22:44:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 72434 invoked by uid 1103); 2 Jan 2010 22:44:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 72414 invoked from network); 2 Jan 2010 22:44:29 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=/PnbhhyG9r2zCLT9RoyGQqQu/SMoGQnv46V1UXP85tQ=; b=UmWl+XRZCc/ytUHgiRR9cC1+29jni7F4G3WlzURnzvwrS/rrVpEcCPeOU7lFJXW6EM unl9xdpppyi8cyfgxHLz+hTlBSRHB1nLr2j/RHy85H3fcZ3ocmSdpvvFjxuR8P90PfZq hzb8TzAAOhRO/EeTnEQb1GP2+Ll9F6eoTWncE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=OXIfl5tR6VfNhrIFieTiD+A0zzM8XtHbWkLfE+Y/t+TK96EVyPMaxWd54fGYmz8DhP OqxQjZrdjJqTBD7WbiatNZk70d5Y0l7NWtpvunWJb+/H+EsgqoTknHYuT1AAezja3aeP LdVLEn1p84jMbOu0rsKJlUnzjl8D25KMIesxA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 14:45:19 -0800 Message-ID: <1c60b9301001021445q3b8423d2u874d74b0043bcb8e@mail.gmail.com> From: Greg Bird To: SFRaves Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd5c5e82c2584047c363e25 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] bsp: Tonight! [KONTROL] w/ Guy Gerber live (Tel Aviv) + Alexi Delano aka ADNY (New York) --000e0cd5c5e82c2584047c363e25 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Saturday, January 2nd, 2010 [ K O N T R O L ] minimal techno + avant house every 1st Saturday at The Endup featuring from Tel Aviv, Israel: ::: GUY GERBER - LIVE ::: (Supplement Facts . Cocoon . Cadenza) Combining elements of techno, minimal, house, and progressive with stirring melodies and a generous amount of talent, Guy Gerber has taken the dance music world by storm over the last several years, culminating in him receiving the award for Best Minimal Artist at the 2009 DJ Awards in Ibiza. and from New York City: ::: ALEXI DELANO ::: (Plus 8 . Clink . Svek . Poker Flat . Plastic City) Born in Chile and raised in Sweden where he began his prolific production career alongside friend Cari Lekebusch, Alexi Delano has covered considerable range in his 20+ years in the biz, from techno and minimal under his own name, to deep house under his popular ADNY moniker. plus special guest: ::: MARC SMITH - LIVE ::: (Karloff . Auralism . Nightlight) Marc Smith is a true gem of SF's ever burgeoning techno community, both in the studio and behind his gear. Whether performing solo or alongside fellow Auralism cohort Jason Short as Coalition Of The Killing, Marc's melodic grooves and bouncy beats always get the dance floor moving. with residents: SAMMY D (Classic . Dirtybird . Utensil . Magnificent 7) http://www.myspace.com/sammydoyle ALLAND BYALLO (Nightlight . Liebe*Detail . Missive) http://www.myspace.com/alland NIKOLA BAYTALA (S.W.A.T. . Robsoul . Junior Boys Own) http://www.myspace.com/nikolaswat CRAIG KUNA (Mothership . Platform . ESDJCO) http://www.myspace.com/craig1 _________________________________________________________ The ENDUP 401 6th St @ Harrison, SF 10pm - 6am / 21+ / $20 http://www.theendup.com FREE before 11pm! _________________________________________________________ Facebook Invite: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=3D215212220911 Flyer: http://www.kontrolsf.com/K55/K55H.jpg Poster: http://www.kontrolsf.com/K55/K55P.jpg _________________________________________________________ GUY GERBER Guy Gerber has been stirring up electronic audiences with his anthem releases and live shows for quite some time. After countless productions fo= r major labels, dance ensembles, and electro rock bands which earned him many awards and praises, Guy was ready for a major hit. His universally embraced single on Bedrock Records "Stoppage Time" became the stand out anthem of th= e year at the likes of Cocoon at Amnesia and DC 10. The single has surpassed the 5-digit mark in sales and continues to shift by the truckload and to appear on numerous compilations. Last summer's success led to Guy joining the Cocoon family. First came "Thi= s Is Balagan", which attracted Sven=92s attention to Guy=92s unique melodies = and production skills. "Sea of Sand", a collaboration with Shlomi Aber which appeared on Cocoon=92s Compilation F, with its breath taking memorable melo= dy, introduced Guy=92s production to a wide new range of electronic audiences. When the single came out, accompanied by After Love, Guy was already spotte= d as the hottest name around. On New Year=92s Eve 2007, Guy introduced to the world his new live show, thus marking a new phase in his career. While touring with his live show, Guy was busy working on two other project= s which played a major roll in his life. His album "Late Bloomers", which demonstrates Guy's vast knowledge of the history of music, was released on Cocoon May 2007, and is currently supported by a world tour. The other is Guy's self imprint Supplement Facts, considered to be one of the fast growing choice labels around. As a touring artist, Guy has embraced the Ableton software to create a unique experience, rocking festivals across the world from MUTEK in Montrea= l to Movement in Detroit, Sonar in Barcelona, and God's Kitchen in the UK. Shows across Europe alongside the likes of Richie Hawtin, Tiefschwarz and Mathew Jonson have put him in the premier league of touring artists in recent years. All this success may have been a surprise to Guy if you'd have told him whe= n he was 15 how his life might turn out. As a member of his native Israel's Under 16s national football team, he started to play guitar and very quickl= y his love of football was replaced by an obsession with music. Listening to bands like Joy Division, My Bloody Valentine, Sonic Youth, Soft Cell, and The Beach Boys, Guy established a unique understanding for music that has informed his musical development, and from which flows his unique sound of bittersweet harmonies, natural mixture of strong and deep grooves, and futuristic bass lines. Most recently, Guy was named best minimal act of 2009 at the prestigious DJ Awards in Ibiza. =3D=3D=3D> LINKS: Website: http://www.supplementfacts-records.com/ Discography: http://www.discogs.com/artist/Guy%20Gerber Myspace (w/ music samples): http://www.myspace.com/guygerber http://www.myspace.com/supplementfacts Resident Advisor feature: http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?820 =3D=3D=3D> AUDIO: Guy Gerber - Save The Cannibals Podcast: http://savethecannibals.com/podcast/savethecannibals_18.mp3 Guy Gerber - Live @ Minitek, NYC 2008: http://uploaded.to/?id=3Dedgk7z =3D=3D=3D> VIDEO: Guy Gerber @ Mayday, Budapest - 2009: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DX5RBnMVk61I Guy Gerber @ Electric Zoo, NYC - 2009: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D0YRGtfYPwTg _________________________________________________________ ALEXI DELANO Alexi Delano started DJing in the mid-1980's as his love for hip-hop, R&B, funk, and soul pushed him to spread his musical tastes to the world around him. Born in Chile, and raised in Sweden, Alexi started a radio show from a suburb of Stockholm at the tender age of 15. In the late 1980's, Alexi took a trip to Spain where he discovered electronic music and more specifically, house music. Upon returning to Sweden, Alexi's interest in electronic based dance music was born. Teaming up with his friend Cari Lekebusch, Alexi and Cari co-produced Alexi's first record entitled 'Life on the Other Side' for Swedish based Loop records. After being received very well by the dance community, Alexi started to produce more and more for a number of different labels including Cari Lekebush's own imprint Hybrid, Tim Taylor's imprint Missile, Steve Bug's label Raw Elements, Plumphouse, Svek, Jericho, Primevil, Christian Smith's Strive label, Earthtones, and now Plastic City. In the mid-1990's, Alexi relocated to NYC to seek both new inspirations while at the same time developing his skills as a musical producer. Since transplanting to NYC, Alexi has continued assaulting dance floors worldwide with his DJing around the continent, many solo productions, and collaborations with artists such as Jesper Dahlback (a.k.a. The Persuader), Cari Lekebusch, Casey Hogan, and Lucas Rodenbush. Since arriving in NYC, Alexi has spent much of his time developing his A.D.N.Y. moniker. A recent long-player out on the Earthtones label collaborated with Jesper Dahlback a= s well as his A.D.N.Y. presents Leiva album on Plastic City are two of the most current projects. While, Alexi did collaborate with Casey Hogan on som= e of the tracks for Leiva, it is in essence his debut solo album. =3D=3D=3D> LINKS: Website: http://www.ad-limited.com/ Discography: http://www.discogs.com/artist/Alexi%20Delano MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/adltd =3D=3D=3D> AUDIO: Alexi Delano - Live @ Horeb Bar, Medellin - 2008: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3DSF7OHGO2 =3D=3D=3D> VIDEO: Alexi Delano - Live @ Compression, LA - 2008: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dek-GFy3dGkw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DVu8Aa27f63E _________________________________________________________ MARC SMITH With a talent for insane melodies and harmonies, Auralism co-founder Marc Smith is a producer driven by a musical calling since childhood. From the life-changing moment when blues legend B.B. King pulled the 12-year-old guitar player onstage during a concert, Smith has remained committed to music-making=97albeit, as it turned out, with a slant more towards Moog tha= n Gibson. In the early years of the millennium, while living in Jacksonville, FL, he cranked out house with a progressive edge, operating first as Groove Element with Chris Havens, and then later as Biogenesis with Havens and fellow Auralism founder Jason Short. From 2001 onward, Biogenesis saw several well-received releases on Xplosion Records, Nepol Records, and, mos= t recently in 2007, Hype Records. In 2003, Smith joined forces with Short again as Coalition of the Killing, a project that sprang from their mutual admiration for minimal techno's first inspiring wave, but which quickly developed into a more musical, pelvis-jostling sound all their own. Two years later, he helped to birth Auralism Records as a mouthpiece for COTK's prodigious output=97and the rest is history, as they say. Now, flying solo = in 2008 Smith veers towards the Teutonic end of the dance-music pool, creating propulsive techno packed tightly with otherworldly subterranean groans and bright syncopated rhythms. For his releases on Auralism, Smith says, "What = I like about techno is its out-of-the-ordinary, dirty element. It's a little bit more carnal, you know? I've been focusing on using as few elements as possible, and getting the most impact out of each one. I'm a big fan of the 'less is more' aesthetic!" 2009 has already seen Smith garnering praise from the DJ community for his solo contribution to Auralism's annual Primaveral compilation entitled "Insisting upon its self". He and Short as COTK were also just recently highlighted as one of Beatport's artists to watch this year. The duo plan t= o tour this August to capitalize on these accolades. But hey, let the guy catch his breath, he's still savoring his amazing set from the "Night Moves= " party at this year's Movement Festival in Detroit. If it all seems like a whirlwind flash of heat and smoke recently, that's because for Smith it has been. "One of the reasons for that", surmises Smith, "[is that] It seems as if the pipeline between San Francisco and the European electronic music industry is really opening up. We have so much talent here it is easy to forget there is anything else going on in the world of electronic music." But one things for sure, instead of trippin' on the E-G-O Smith has chosen to work even harder on his music with a focus on more groovin' cuts outside of his normal comfort zone. He's also branching out with some upcoming collaborations with other noted San Francisco producers such as Alland Byallo and Clint Stewart that should see the light of day later this year. Marc Smith is undoubtedly one artist to keep an eye on this year. =3D=3D=3D> LINKS: Website: http://auralismrecords.com/ Discography: http://www.discogs.com/artist/Marc%20Smith%20(8) MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/mrmalfunction =3D=3D=3D> AUDIO: Marc Smith - Live PA @ Bionic, SF - 2009 (first half of set): http://www.auralismrecords.com/LordsofAcidTributeConcert/MarcSmith[Live]8-2= 3-09@BionicSF.mp3 _________________________________________________________ http://www.kontrolsf.com --000e0cd5c5e82c2584047c363e25-- From sfraves-return-151779-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 04 02:47:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22583 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Jan 2010 02:47:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22564 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2010 02:47:27 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=NQR+d9dmO1xr7drRB/hejMrKldDEGMxZZGheuX8IohE=; b=Qr0mUZWlO2zzlfD6BGH1OMHsPPKHo/C1Jdiiu03Qm5ShjzmxBY4dLiNKiV1uoXlgBK qCCRLBrBytMlxql5NZtJfn3GoTe8Z8sSAdxOkCieqpensirZ0AY3aw64QEY6atmBd7fU g82sd4q9vGmwb2Szyz5mVJ6ZyupbSTTVIPZgE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=J1DGmFoA4z1CoPs7fsSwcG2RYNDeZ+qhXd5U58+c2VLvlasig4aYWajNoRBgfk5Jx9 iHBL8WhjtWC8JE+eYtV5EcOHZu6nqa4Zq6DgGvf5mo7otrqVRe4UNydPDZNTcoZ+mlAT I1YydmAQ2C3m8VlcxuD8Fs6iF8oJCb8IhUD4E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 18:48:17 -0800 Message-ID: <1c60b9301001031848y7e399a5au6440ef61daf59860@mail.gmail.com> From: Greg Bird To: SFRaves Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd62c0ee87990047c4dc08b X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] bsp: Tonight! AFTERGLOW: an evening of mellow electronics w/ Darren Davis (Tweekin' Records) --000e0cd62c0ee87990047c4dc08b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 it's Sunday night, it's been a long New Year's weekend, and your dancing shoes are ready to come off those tired feet. have no fear, we've got you covered like a leopard-print Snuggie. come down and join us once again for some "bone crushingly mellow" electronic music, selected by SF's finest for your chillaxing pleasure. pajamas, slippers, and bed-head welcome. :) Sunday, January 3rd, 2009: ..:::: AFTERGLOW ::::.. an evening of mellow electronics every first Sunday @ Nickie's this month's special guest is music lover extraordinaire and former owner of Tweekin' Records: * DARREN DAVIS * dropping 2 hours of musical goodness. + residents: Matt Wilder, Mike Perry, & Greg Bird __________________________________________________ NICKIE'S 466 Haight Street, SF 9pm - 1am * FREE * Full bar + nice beer and wine selection. Kitchen open late. Killer mac'n'cheese! __________________________________________________ ::::About:::: Afterglow was conceived as a chance to wind down after a long weekend by listening to some chill music and having a few drinks with friends. The idea is to allow some of SF's most talented and multi-faceted dance music DJ's an opportunity to dig deeper into their collections and play music they wouldn't be able to in a club setting. Anything's game, from ambient and electronica to dub techno, idm, atmospheric drum & bass, downtempo, future jazz, deep house and beyond. ::::Inspirations:::: The Orb, Isolee, Boards of Canada, Herbert, Gas, Portishead, Kraftwerk, DJ Shadow, Bjork, K&D, Rhythm & Sound, Brian Eno, Compost Records, Art of Noise, Meat Beat Manifesto, Nightmares on Wax, Innervisions, Carl Craig, Everything But The Girl, Tangerine Dream, Mouse on Mars, Deadbeat, Donnacha Costello, Cocteau Twins, DJ Krush, Junior Boys, Warp Records, Lindstrom, Ezikiel Honig, DeepChord, Herbie Hancock, Kid Loco, Burial, Royksopp, Mogwai, Stereolab, FSOL, Aphex Twin, Tycho, M83, Spiritualized, Pete Namlook, Biosphere, Ninja Tune, John Cage, Delerium, Fourtet, St. Germain, Monolake, LTJ Bukem, Tones on Tail, Jimpster, Autechre, 808 State, New Order, Ulrich Schnauss, Prefuse 73, Thievery Corporation, Mo' Wax, Klimek, Theorem, Air, Tortoise, Echospace, Rollmottle, Jazzanova, Mille Plateau, Sutekh, Twerk, Depeche Mode, Zero7, Can, B12, DJ Cam, Massive Attack, Vangelis, etc. ::::Past Guests:::: Mike Bee, Solar, Sassmouth, The Martin Brothers, J.Phlip, Nikita, Jason Kendig, Alland Byallo, Craig Kuna, Monty Luke, Javaight, Fil Latorre, Keith Kemp, Qzen, Jason Short, Cinlt Stewart, Roman Stange, and more. __________________________________________________ January flyer: http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h320/bird415/AG12.png event website: http://www.afterglowsf.com download sets from past events: http://www.afterglowsf.com/music venue info: http://www.yelp.com/biz/nickies-san-francisco __________________________________________________ It's the musical equivalent of Grandma tucking you in. Hope you can join us. :) ----> Greg Bird, Matt Wilder, & Mike Perry --000e0cd62c0ee87990047c4dc08b-- From sfraves-return-151780-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 05 20:07:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 74238 invoked by uid 1103); 5 Jan 2010 20:07:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 74211 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2010 20:07:52 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1262722122; bh=l0/1rxMOHXtTqBaz23RvM+ixP/myi9pZYDrcfEDxLbs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=mSU2AZ/Q9wvYlQauiUidEfm9EY61sJlbM6+qGeOXvsDw2HR9pqdS3peFeoz4yYLLyftwHaClVZdsop27G5lKAaNuNkgrXb/+sVrEgqjgOzG8RQQb5XsOJgB8Ss624Axd9ZHUzbeOkVq3BESm2qvSogDG21lBzJnsEVrcroYWeiU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=H2b7DH5VwEA5FP3bsxIYl5bf9MiSXOy4VnFh+pLjZWKUWksQ1iuagjZRnI10tpXqhvYO75RW9NL/3gD0XxcTVwlMHe+oEHb8fmz2nezpwZX/hP6o7CfndFZ3u3JKBtewhSY1RfTohufjfotAu53zcTSPKDYq0c5Ht7o/yAyhlIM=; Message-ID: <924264.96958.qm@web50002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ErkjEEgVM1l2sCcrK11gWk6IxzVlHUUJiJY6lYRnl35ZtuWs.K67OdpFNnKdndvbvZpmh0copr375mkzgIaUCr8jmENImkEkLn5JtI_DSgNxU8LP5mKnWsH9klGShW1RP58jL5n2JzgVisGStQw3pKETOl_fljQNr7whgH8MF3HdQsuslHKmIIZim2f2XIovClXB59CFbVPQTFuYD9SqUDgP3IUehyaMEDGo48qIrF1uAjRpMFJszcvqaHqPiR.JRsrkRrnn7AAFLF8rbp603FAsIYvo2B4n5Kjj9GcLInH946NTjLLMVHtu8DOhmDJCPWzyBIv_Bd15L6OF19XyZcHU_Vge09fOB8YenO.OcWMxVU86o76fTTfT3QgOKHST3WZD6nCHFY6EmThZCCGc5H51PfRnXwgX1L1I0u5ylKjFQBxoRWqsz5ltVRZlEndjJKIDm5owK3rIu4LTp8EGprdme56GAt5bcnHAevTpnwozWY.ybvH3Bb7HdFH0iMsgjjpr359dAKpbpDA9kU2I24Pzw4P39MBr_4B4trS3qBNRDMvxbNFHkQ15lPQxuws7PxbeckLa9q1ZXMVh9A4dGgTVDcasZS5OaXJtlg_dRxh4NrKiOg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/240.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 12:08:42 -0800 (PST) From: michael the redstickman To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] please vote for our snowboard design! the home stretch... 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Apologies if you=E2=80=99ve seen this message more than once.=0A= =0AThanks!=0AMichael=0A =0A=0A---------------------------------------------= -------=0Awww.redstickman.com=0A=0A=0Ablah blah blah listen to my crappy mu= sic blah blah=0A----------------------------------------------------=0A=0A= =0A=0A --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151781-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 05 21:25:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 45738 invoked by uid 1103); 5 Jan 2010 21:25:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 45701 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2010 21:24:59 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JVcDG7zK5fQ27XGWGwFErX5SitOn2VyUv9TMyJ8XOZk=; b=HfXzB0QDVKSrfLYshyptm75henvZJ53jBuTbCR9t99+DA9ijWjRGd/1d010CETDOxt hlvIWFLP31auinUlK7TCFOOoaIM3CejHfNGcS644p0cJk5Jfz1Npy0RWBCo11FSxr3y9 Uj0cCYGRTvbnYQ81ih077Jmvx9oT1fVj+gpU4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bsEahX1RQJnhzuj1u8R5hSyQAvTh3v1Q6vE4rkVZZ+HhgZlelDn7zJYfrzv7wSuDnM 06EFwoQBjFoLSQ8FS+K+Xn0EgsUZ1Vr/iMRPriyJx+Dm1EG/dHqF3R2HwVIHTM2QfslC vdVVCLZhxeImoAwh1GYXa+q9SoqebfB2eo3Aw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <924264.96958.qm@web50002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <924264.96958.qm@web50002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 13:25:48 -0800 Message-ID: <19b8baf41001051325h31fc16b6o666c89100ff0ba27@mail.gmail.com> From: Media Bass To: michael the redstickman , sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163600d6fd4ba851047c717b17 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] please vote for our snowboard design! the home stretch... --00163600d6fd4ba851047c717b17 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I really hope your design wins, it's absolutely worthy. On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 12:08 PM, michael the redstickman < red_stickman@yahoo.com> wrote: > Yo SFR! > > So, at last count, our snowboard design is in > the running for the top 5 boards. It=92s a pretty tight race, tho =96 > anyone could win. The contest is over this Sunday, 1/10/10: please vote > if you like our design! Every vote counts! > > > > For those having trouble voting, here=92s instructions: > 1) create an REI account here: > https://www.rei.com/RegistrationView?storeId=3D8000 > 2) vote with the =93thumbs up=94 button here: > http://findout.rei.com/photo-detail/?id=3D9101782009154881036 > > The whole process shouldn=92t take more than a couple of > minutes. :) > > > > If we win, we will donate the total amount of the gift certificate to the > American Cancer Society in my mom=92s name. The grand prize winner is $1= 000, > the 2nd =96 5th prizes are $500. > > If you feel so inclined, please point folx to our facebook event invite > here: > http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=3D191756493911&index=3D1 > > Thanks to everyone who has already voted and spread the word! Apologies = if > you=92ve seen this message more than once. > > Thanks! > Michael > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > www.redstickman.com > > > blah blah blah listen to my crappy music blah blah > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --00163600d6fd4ba851047c717b17-- From sfraves-return-151782-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 07 01:44:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 53931 invoked by uid 1103); 7 Jan 2010 01:44:50 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 53913 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2010 01:44:49 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=l5lz4tnt/1EI87OEPgZpsxa0BmduS3ylp+fhFiTNcpo=; b=WpK1t2zBhpTUtoaBtRUkHXds61TRCM6fEdWzLa7rW+LE8TLxao827Z/eW1SOqRWmaH 4LsGBqMuBccUDseryM4R3yZZanHcv6lIgBuLWsxwyiyg/+L0p00BM0RIblj4TUIhaSRW byqAErVQBZaoXphFAnM4OYvGspJo22ZEUoKFw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=nu5RRch0FjWmXD0OSfS1qEzozObUE3/nQszYNO4xy4GUFn/iI9+lNE8zW4TA564vOh zPOC8ZNUyFMVLk6R1OfsyKEXE919/tQHalpUJNfiyTl/a7IJGLNNmbyGrS32YnxQ7Rhb w5ok0RfRUXcr7fRXVpkIUDq+EsnoZHFpJfSCo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 17:45:38 -0800 Message-ID: <4688f3111001061745q2f4d0b4bja54aedc572ddb177@mail.gmail.com> From: Giles Bowkett To: the land of LALA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] free breaks white label Hey SF Raves, what up. You know me. No really. We met before. Yeah, that was me. I used to spend all my time on here ranting about all kinds of bullshit? Yeah yeah. You remember. I now live in Los Angeles and do all my ranting elsewhere (mostly at http://gilesbowkett.blogspot.com/), but I wanted to say what up because I found a few white labels I pressed a few years ago, when I was in my ranting prime. I might have more somewhere but I'm not sure. I have three I can give away, and if anyone wants one, you can have it. But you do have to pay shipping. I'm not sure what that is but I'll figure it out. Probably like five bucks or something. I'm just giving them away because I forgot I had them and I only need one copy but I got four. Maybe I sold the rest? I don't know. The records have three tracks, all of them breaks bootlegs, all of them very heavy on samples. One is a mashup of Aquasky "777" and Future Sound Of London "We Have Explosive", which if you like dark aggro breaks is a lot of fun: http://gilesgoatboy.org/audio/xplo777.mp3 These two tracks are very, very similar, and they blend beautifully. Not much original production anywhere on this record, it's almost all samples, but it's fun if you like your breaks loud, scary, fast, and aggressive. There's another one which is also pretty dark, it's made up of samples of Orbital, more Orbital, and a Funk D'Void remix of a Dave Tarrida track: http://gilesgoatboy.org/audio/nada_mas.mp3 Last but not least on the record is a very commercial, brash, obnoxious, Florida kind of breaks track: http://gilesgoatboy.org/audio/antarctica.mp3 This was basically me sampling every song I liked on a DJ Icey mix CD and jamming all the samples together. I think there might be a teensy bit of original production but it's the exception, not the rule. It's basically all samples on this record, every track. There are a few acid lines or pads or stuff like that, though. Maybe some drums, that's it. By the way I also do a daily mp3 thing now, I post a new mp3 every day on Twitter here: http://twitter.com/djgoatboy I actually use samples a lot in that one, too, but I also do a lot of stuff with original production now. Actually the best place to hear me doing original production is Myspace, although I haven't updated it in at least a year, and it has an embarassing picture of me wearing a dildo on my head: http://www.myspace.com/djgilesgoatboy The mp3s there are all mp3s from my daily mp3 project, but I think all of them were played by hand with no samples **or** sequencing, so for those of you purists who'd dis for putting out a record made mostly of samples, check out Myspace before going into hater mode. By the way, I'm curious, because I like never leave the house any more: is it even still about vinyl? Am I that fucking old? I'm buying vinyl and mp3s, and I know people are selling both, but I don't know what the balance is. Sorry if I'm bringing up a massively overplayed topic. I'm just that out of it. Anyway whatever. Hope you've all been well. If you want the record, just let me know. First come, first served. :-) Giles --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151783-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 07 03:32:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 69876 invoked by uid 1103); 7 Jan 2010 03:32:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 69859 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2010 03:32:16 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1262835187; bh=KCdE1Wtjeh7DnAeglKxXHRPd37EhVche6W+xKLWoT1o=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=v3v3TynJtB13thEApgWm3rWNvrTRKUqvmxrOtEOVMrV2SsjwXisvKw4MdA+wdFa9425lXH0YEaJ0a5jH6v+gIwdfru+V2GPixE51dhyKOwTR5L2iY0cLUlNUVi7/OCtIp7713AxFt13+/o4jgdBjmt1lBkdUMLeBpBjN4aXskTY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hD9L6IEeUuXDA48+zbjOiR2lGgUlC2z+95tPtIQm0Wqceo0ZvYalFLEFqYpAoPJWnl0mKe/Q1K7J6Y2wrDabM/epp3lzS+aly7cDU4G0Npwy/3q7g5gY7Ep485UhCG7MGk1KmJU78l4J9gHAqII/DVfuUt46tkUQwd4EihfOnfc=; Message-ID: <294172.18363.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: VgpC4YcVM1kuR6Yn7DsIC4ehMgXPcJAc4niHUxcqd7vlhZbXlEgm5_KzY_sPU0kVImn7P5zhRn8TTvzWkJORENOAS6my6dVtcds7LW7FJp5TPyYDnhkC9OK_Yvdquvuatk7BH9i_ys4jyJZHwtDBgJPrDkBif7TLgh1M.5gyKU5Y8xiPTxqdXl5okls6pwiVCpmo0rLwnZYN42OwhoHrJ7Q68kxF6ljcC4cZ.GeILR9kK8KlQMNc6GP7YpF4hoSTCHSNGYNyGtG2_jBsJtbw2NeMo5IzNW25_rwyOl.XMwMtMZleU6730JKBSVKMaiqld4rZZdPjHVkxNoqJFldosNz5_PdeRgYXBu1Plpn4p12pIwy3a5NGc5vEYK2sQSd.5etjP7pMLBG0oeu4QcDNTRhXI2iFjIZtHBYB6YuWMZOQFaNOV89ODFj3MP5qtP.XT0a0gD9ufZ26z90W9M2syS3b9aEX2WNkeei3BkpTw96kkUvcz5RLdufoa4Zgq2ih0ul0Kx94_NyifCtNa04ehYzkN.Ryfz5dix1UKiXuiwVbnk3mFv3HKNvJmadHa7n0Y_3RzVaIlyz68T48ebbdkLKo0fq1o9LMnEGP5NlKTSNiYGyRV88PGR2SW9XMFDXIuxmTw6jKG4MBbsJ41JGsUVK.RnN4q0f39xVraA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/240.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <4688f3111001061745q2f4d0b4bja54aedc572ddb177@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 19:33:06 -0800 (PST) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: Giles Bowkett , the land of LALA In-Reply-To: <4688f3111001061745q2f4d0b4bja54aedc572ddb177@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] free breaks white label I'm interested if there is still one left. ----- Original Message ---- From: Giles Bowkett To: the land of LALA Sent: Wed, January 6, 2010 5:45:38 PM Subject: [sfraves] free breaks white label Hey SF Raves, what up. You know me. No really. We met before. Yeah, that was me. I used to spend all my time on here ranting about all kinds of bullshit? Yeah yeah. You remember. I now live in Los Angeles and do all my ranting elsewhere (mostly at http://gilesbowkett.blogspot.com/), but I wanted to say what up because I found a few white labels I pressed a few years ago, when I was in my ranting prime. I might have more somewhere but I'm not sure. I have three I can give away, and if anyone wants one, you can have it. But you do have to pay shipping. I'm not sure what that is but I'll figure it out. Probably like five bucks or something. I'm just giving them away because I forgot I had them and I only need one copy but I got four. Maybe I sold the rest? I don't know. The records have three tracks, all of them breaks bootlegs, all of them very heavy on samples. One is a mashup of Aquasky "777" and Future Sound Of London "We Have Explosive", which if you like dark aggro breaks is a lot of fun: http://gilesgoatboy.org/audio/xplo777.mp3 These two tracks are very, very similar, and they blend beautifully. Not much original production anywhere on this record, it's almost all samples, but it's fun if you like your breaks loud, scary, fast, and aggressive. There's another one which is also pretty dark, it's made up of samples of Orbital, more Orbital, and a Funk D'Void remix of a Dave Tarrida track: http://gilesgoatboy.org/audio/nada_mas.mp3 Last but not least on the record is a very commercial, brash, obnoxious, Florida kind of breaks track: http://gilesgoatboy.org/audio/antarctica.mp3 This was basically me sampling every song I liked on a DJ Icey mix CD and jamming all the samples together. I think there might be a teensy bit of original production but it's the exception, not the rule. It's basically all samples on this record, every track. There are a few acid lines or pads or stuff like that, though. Maybe some drums, that's it. By the way I also do a daily mp3 thing now, I post a new mp3 every day on Twitter here: http://twitter.com/djgoatboy I actually use samples a lot in that one, too, but I also do a lot of stuff with original production now. Actually the best place to hear me doing original production is Myspace, although I haven't updated it in at least a year, and it has an embarassing picture of me wearing a dildo on my head: http://www.myspace.com/djgilesgoatboy The mp3s there are all mp3s from my daily mp3 project, but I think all of them were played by hand with no samples **or** sequencing, so for those of you purists who'd dis for putting out a record made mostly of samples, check out Myspace before going into hater mode. By the way, I'm curious, because I like never leave the house any more: is it even still about vinyl? Am I that fucking old? I'm buying vinyl and mp3s, and I know people are selling both, but I don't know what the balance is. Sorry if I'm bringing up a massively overplayed topic. I'm just that out of it. Anyway whatever. Hope you've all been well. If you want the record, just let me know. First come, first served. :-) Giles --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151784-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 08 06:53:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 86617 invoked by uid 1103); 8 Jan 2010 06:53:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 86597 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2010 06:53:21 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=8YG22KVI3uOXhwq+k07a9q9ttJuxKeaOEKlSAGHB/WQ=; b=j73awx01ArhJ/L84ANXODtiH4iAMizGKUYTCa+gRgu2M/l2D0SBfBErS529WYD+phN c1cFqoxWzuEdX8UzBfWZmP6+3AMZ0KIr3+s4EIR2FiPyEnPalLEJMKEmfbwmp0BRuNF7 nBAJcfL2rRU9fBIMMBuOAg/S5l14BOxa0f9Js= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=pyuASe+dGMZk7VDXnnaXnaUyMuzDPTJwXw461623vnjK1VTO0Z5oRrxVuBdtNjy7ZC wSf69w+PwST0zSB8Yp2TNg7jTJ5ig1uQXCrB+qOpTy1/JbxVV9+Js3g+mtaiK30fj/eh A6KS9ziz3z2hJoC6Le0b+lEooj7G87OegflmQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <294172.18363.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4688f3111001061745q2f4d0b4bja54aedc572ddb177@mail.gmail.com> <294172.18363.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 22:54:11 -0800 Message-ID: <4688f3111001072254v18d554a3q795552d9fbbd52d4@mail.gmail.com> From: Giles Bowkett To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com Cc: the land of LALA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] free breaks white label Rad! Gracias Peter. Ping me with your address. I don't know how much shipping will be yet, I just ordered the shipping boxes. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:33 PM, wrote: > I'm interested if there is still one left. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Giles Bowkett > To: the land of LALA > Sent: Wed, January 6, 2010 5:45:38 PM > Subject: [sfraves] free breaks white label > > Hey SF Raves, what up. You know me. No really. We met before. Yeah, > that was me. I used to spend all my time on here ranting about all > kinds of bullshit? Yeah yeah. You remember. I now live in Los Angeles > and do all my ranting elsewhere (mostly at > http://gilesbowkett.blogspot.com/), but I wanted to say what up > because I found a few white labels I pressed a few years ago, when I > was in my ranting prime. I might have more somewhere but I'm not sure. > I have three I can give away, and if anyone wants one, you can have > it. But you do have to pay shipping. I'm not sure what that is but > I'll figure it out. Probably like five bucks or something. I'm just > giving them away because I forgot I had them and I only need one copy > but I got four. Maybe I sold the rest? I don't know. > > The records have three tracks, all of them breaks bootlegs, all of > them very heavy on samples. One is a mashup of Aquasky "777" and > Future Sound Of London "We Have Explosive", which if you like dark > aggro breaks is a lot of fun: > > http://gilesgoatboy.org/audio/xplo777.mp3 > > These two tracks are very, very similar, and they blend beautifully. > Not much original production anywhere on this record, it's almost all > samples, but it's fun if you like your breaks loud, scary, fast, and > aggressive. > > There's another one which is also pretty dark, it's made up of samples > of Orbital, more Orbital, and a Funk D'Void remix of a Dave Tarrida > track: > > http://gilesgoatboy.org/audio/nada_mas.mp3 > > Last but not least on the record is a very commercial, brash, > obnoxious, Florida kind of breaks track: > > http://gilesgoatboy.org/audio/antarctica.mp3 > > This was basically me sampling every song I liked on a DJ Icey mix CD > and jamming all the samples together. > > I think there might be a teensy bit of original production but it's > the exception, not the rule. It's basically all samples on this > record, every track. There are a few acid lines or pads or stuff like > that, though. Maybe some drums, that's it. > > By the way I also do a daily mp3 thing now, I post a new mp3 every day > on Twitter here: > > http://twitter.com/djgoatboy > > I actually use samples a lot in that one, too, but I also do a lot of > stuff with original production now. Actually the best place to hear me > doing original production is Myspace, although I haven't updated it in > at least a year, and it has an embarassing picture of me wearing a > dildo on my head: > > http://www.myspace.com/djgilesgoatboy > > The mp3s there are all mp3s from my daily mp3 project, but I think all > of them were played by hand with no samples **or** sequencing, so for > those of you purists who'd dis for putting out a record made mostly of > samples, check out Myspace before going into hater mode. > > By the way, I'm curious, because I like never leave the house any > more: is it even still about vinyl? Am I that fucking old? I'm buying > vinyl and mp3s, and I know people are selling both, but I don't know > what the balance is. Sorry if I'm bringing up a massively overplayed > topic. I'm just that out of it. > > Anyway whatever. Hope you've all been well. If you want the record, > just let me know. First come, first served. :-) > > Giles > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > -- Giles Soundwave/Goat Boy/Bowkett http://www.gilesgoatboy.org/ http://gilesbowkett.blogspot.com (code) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151785-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 19 00:07:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 96218 invoked by uid 1103); 19 Jan 2010 00:07:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 96194 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2010 00:07:19 -0000 Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:07:19 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Estioko To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [sfraves] testing 1..2..3.. tap tap tap...is this thing on? - ------------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@hyperreal.org SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151786-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 19 00:11:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 99454 invoked by uid 1103); 19 Jan 2010 00:11:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 99417 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2010 00:11:40 -0000 Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: <6A9EB1EB-61F9-43DB-B629-229A9250A0FB@heroicrobot.com> From: Jas Strong To: Terry Estioko In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:09:10 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [sfraves] testing 1..2..3.. Check check. -J. On 18 Jan 2010, at 16:07, Terry Estioko wrote: > tap tap tap...is this thing on? > > - > > ------------------------------------------ > terry estioko | terry@hyperreal.org > SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151787-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 19 00:19:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5744 invoked by uid 1103); 19 Jan 2010 00:19:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5720 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2010 00:19:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6A9EB1EB-61F9-43DB-B629-229A9250A0FB@heroicrobot.com> References: <6A9EB1EB-61F9-43DB-B629-229A9250A0FB@heroicrobot.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:17:28 -0800 Message-ID: <42a0b30f1001181617h412667c5v503230195fe64389@mail.gmail.com> From: Ray Wong To: Jas Strong Cc: Terry Estioko , sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636b2ad40303c21047d796514 Subject: Re: [sfraves] testing 1..2..3.. --001636b2ad40303c21047d796514 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 one two. one two. -R. On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Jas Strong wrote: > Check check. > > -J. > > > On 18 Jan 2010, at 16:07, Terry Estioko wrote: > > tap tap tap...is this thing on? >> >> - >> >> ------------------------------------------ >> terry estioko | terry@hyperreal.org >> SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --001636b2ad40303c21047d796514-- From sfraves-return-151788-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 19 00:49:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28279 invoked by uid 1103); 19 Jan 2010 00:49:29 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28242 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2010 00:49:28 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1263862023; bh=u/IaSJHtRVXtpsy5/n9/lxuocT5B/6DuYDJwOFzi/hc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jbfezxFEyaaZvZw/8OwrgtKN03MTqudlZpJ5EBQXQkBl1CqA1UHrkftM1E2Br35scrlhmI5HuQMOKQxNEW29GctobRrwerUWKb9E4iUy8Kx5ySLzR7Q85xzWlTqHRBuQphbYrMom/u3OUzVJCkF1Oef9oZBld9hSKu3yktMTMY0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bjVIy+hRY9f+gCKAsNNPPs40pWtu2LIKOQi8IR7uy0Zrh5dNQW0L8fAnyj/bZaBtm45inMzQbjcYwk1nCRXSfP3dXT0vL+G0AqtYSMNuHch4Kekm4w2+UEXUPvGpFNvLDG3LJaOPkYJ+Xbvr1rVK9hdtSOpv84FN2HXEsBJxjxc=; Message-ID: <332745.64229.qm@web32406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: cKuaMH0VM1kLGYklb40LMWA6m57_0xQYonRA_jCHmah0Xxofne0J4YQG_J4_yXYEWjb5DH8MLaGMEtYa9EEw.NiI0Nethrb1NM5j.oX8kyyihQsDhfe3DEAukc6s32Sz2ajWgW3dGPvO8uXI4jMwD374UQccu1mwMQ7Xq08vVJNZy1PhTeFSoR9HoRc6BWPbPrH2CAZZi1FoX4HSiYdhLCOL17LoHqwSnCSxPVwUv8UxqLIF8_25f4seH7I76Hhb_eim1Joefg7MK9tQczGNOxwon76aXbAu1HnsP7gZnfh5RF6r0eLht_y_J2iKC99KArr2Z4WFGZEEwnk3nbkejrtCOB7K6VqrIKwnYt5jaxpiXF9FwLC0WBOs.kEdamYzNKV1Jl_hOlgjkPAkFTeopbALTKtQGCTgCjzzyykxt2Y- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/272.7 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <6A9EB1EB-61F9-43DB-B629-229A9250A0FB@heroicrobot.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:47:03 -0800 (PST) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: Jas Strong , Terry Estioko Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <6A9EB1EB-61F9-43DB-B629-229A9250A0FB@heroicrobot.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [sfraves] testing 1..2..3.. oontz oontz oontz oontz.... ----- Original Message ---- From: Jas Strong To: Terry Estioko Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Mon, January 18, 2010 4:09:10 PM Subject: Re: [sfraves] testing 1..2..3.. Check check. -J. On 18 Jan 2010, at 16:07, Terry Estioko wrote: > tap tap tap...is this thing on? > > - > > ------------------------------------------ > terry estioko | terry@hyperreal.org > SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151789-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 19 01:18:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 52122 invoked by uid 1103); 19 Jan 2010 01:18:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; 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19 Jan 2010 01:19:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 53489 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2010 01:19:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:Message-ID:Reply-To:X-Priority:Sensitivity:Importance:To:Subject:From:Date:Content-Type:MIME-Version; b=ubGPYiDsbygaodyTfxsusSSZf7NC+Jf4DUf016wWPq0iupzPHo2JUg3YP4TIsi0ZBppA48WoDqN4C0CmA1pG58sXmXV+gkfk+TEjI9PI1yJ8yVyNnmj45mmAspJAheRbveCH/Pf5J33TUkWKVUz0QxHFKzRfJTbuxajZx364dcA= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: bt8Uv7GswBAPD_iVRKRqjIe0GB.K X-YMail-OSG: 5Yu0IGcVM1lMS5763sDxbRrymxcZFwWbBCDj6ZUumRdF4yWvrKv3NBsSOJB02a8_UgbrOCiTdYtQtDOrYUS5WB_CiQSr5_8McSnLDNCMmG_1G3lIVOW3HV3bhqT3SZu185x1CwyKW41pLm0RRlB7o866FtvQt0JZvE3ZZ73D94E5OOU5q6tkATBvtmG5N9RyU2N2xi2.qRKblApLD4EtfBpEfSSbGEO4egUqadTLejd6pawFynX4vN89qy2cToQhpUKPxz06u012.vS8XitrEpVynNXImnHMTMnt.ifnuFVFpzGsfAIEfop4H416NtXRbzmwKm5mWrf2iajpNjKhDfS3H5i5qjY- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:226298870 Message-ID:<226298870-1263863837-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-528955017-@bda791.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Reply-To: orfsound@yahoo.com X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: spiffymo@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: orfsound@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 01:16:12 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [sfraves] Testing Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee cut the feedback plz ------Original Message------ From: spiffymo@yahoo.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org ReplyTo: spiffymo@yahoo.com Subject: [sfraves] Testing Sent: Jan 18, 2010 5:16 PM Ello --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151791-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 19 01:20:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 54923 invoked by uid 1103); 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On ? perhaps - but not particularly responsive -----Original Message----- From: Terry Estioko [mailto:terry@hyperreal.org] Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:07 PM To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: [sfraves] testing 1..2..3.. tap tap tap...is this thing on? - ------------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@hyperreal.org SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151792-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 19 01:28:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 61796 invoked by uid 1103); 19 Jan 2010 01:28:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 61642 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2010 01:28:19 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 79883.45694.bm@omp107.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1263864353; bh=QZrCYRu26MLu+fEaKDk4I7xlf9zLOXL/Loc7SL5bbN8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HSOAczjtGDt2KjkrXNVr55X4wVoi2YUWmHUlS9341HD2b/1PdINm11xJb3G1qsC81S5ceSex0Kixv/KV5Txr2/3RaP5l9WDbQS8CkPLNyh42CkMer7ZU2bntMuNvPK9e/b7NrgBY5KR0+L+79y0xoRB75rmvD1fcRk7/2JCY6rg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NQhU9MexnULzgty+ZCeMHYTk+S/VoDVxzUwRO0KAzNv4Wul2usRtj9p/KM8/aJddFipphbERxAHc6+EcUXLrsEWijqcaJFT6QwnKNE1FTkc4B9biQQ61l/yTC73HlL48EUat775lTkYoGuyXgL6nVb4HcYSE1RmtSSzRHbCM6og=; Message-ID: <892739.11308.qm@web65603.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: BP4Q.AcVM1m.kRCJ.cVKY6pIAYMVnTjOFasVewJlBA1USZkSx9oe64R6aWLT7COK1tDPgA927sysHkJPPzWg9hgvJ4KwuLVTCh9Nttq43.LmQnP92gpxRfwxzpZnZPqsP02FLU0Qnq8iZ5yulp63C0o3wInCaZdBytdioq7Rs1F.00zeJw5CM7HOjjqdPjX8_GAYFAGWSS1viPf3cmddCyIp_Y0X1ilDmb2WiDQjg_4ALn_zidxwbCkuOK5vuuZw88pbWE1BB1oSgPizPfxnmk9ESVYQpC4btoM_1NIYhAVCR4n7di.zUDi.kXDxHeDLFgAC0uIum_nn_5WCpZCDFVo9oJ3j5iVPdjEboM5wsyqxbYhz061f1b4hN_s1.KxXvShgj1Cj5TINEP96yKne9Yue2EuXs_kjwBHbmoixaA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/272.7 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <6A9EB1EB-61F9-43DB-B629-229A9250A0FB@heroicrobot.com> <332745.64229.qm@web32406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 17:25:53 -0800 (PST) From: George Cochrane To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com, Jas Strong , Terry Estioko Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <332745.64229.qm@web32406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [sfraves] testing 1..2..3.. RAVING IS DEAD, DON'T YOU F*CKERS UNDERSTAND?!?! (jk) -GC ----- Original Message ---- From: "dangrsmind@yahoo.com" To: Jas Strong ; Terry Estioko Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Mon, January 18, 2010 4:47:03 PM Subject: Re: [sfraves] testing 1..2..3.. oontz oontz oontz oontz.... ----- Original Message ---- From: Jas Strong To: Terry Estioko Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Mon, January 18, 2010 4:09:10 PM Subject: Re: [sfraves] testing 1..2..3.. Check check. -J. On 18 Jan 2010, at 16:07, Terry Estioko wrote: > tap tap tap...is this thing on? > > - > > ------------------------------------------ > terry estioko | terry@hyperreal.org > SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151793-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 19 21:25:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 70313 invoked by uid 1103); 19 Jan 2010 21:25:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 70285 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2010 21:25:18 -0000 Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:09:24 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Estioko To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [sfraves] SFR outtage update So I know this list is pretty quiet and all, but just so everyone knows what's up, hyperreal experienced a hardware failure last tuesday, just as data and services were about to be migrated to a new box. Web services were not affected, mail was down for a few days, this list was down for almost a week. Thanks to Brian B., we're now live on the new server. You can go back to being quiet again ;-) -terry p.s. Who went to Burnlesque? That was a dope party :-) ------------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@hyperreal.org SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151794-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 19 22:02:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 98416 invoked by uid 1103); 19 Jan 2010 22:02:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 98398 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2010 22:02:53 -0000 Message-ID: <4B562495.8050904@sonic.net> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:31:01 -0800 From: Shatter User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFR References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [sfraves] SFR outtage update Cliff had similar problems with SFGoth last year. The difference being everyone knew about it and was freaking out. Goths love lists. Terry Estioko wrote: > So I know this list is pretty quiet and all, but just so everyone > knows what's up, hyperreal experienced a hardware failure last > tuesday, just as data and services were about to be migrated to a new > box. > > Web services were not affected, mail was down for a few days, this > list was down for almost a week. Thanks to Brian B., we're now live on > the new server. > > You can go back to being quiet again ;-) > > -terry > > p.s. Who went to Burnlesque? That was a dope party :-) > > > ------------------------------------------ > terry estioko | terry@hyperreal.org > SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151795-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 21 01:43:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21697 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Jan 2010 01:43:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21677 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2010 01:43:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:Return-Receipt-To:Message-ID:Reply-To:X-Priority:Sensitivity:Importance:To:Subject:From:Date:Content-Type:MIME-Version; b=6Rdn4Wtmqbmc/TcAV8uOcg6xuQ7EFaVfFrGon9JIB2yQGhZLR0E+7oN8oA4AcacQ5BVkdwymdxu4aCfh3qQbWgpsbLNY4u+R5M0eQg2wWCmuJG3S9tbxefMnHbOGu3AU9SbCYlWVZ2di+aq1SpoPmNFtwcJvO9xe705TPq1yiwY= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: i6vslsWswBA7EwDwX7JqPtogRQF6 X-YMail-OSG: bKe8T4oVM1l0JJlBTgrSdSzhYede4rWc7so3bxETCiyf6TmdYBZizXQbcz.IYj0.G_EmpNS0YCXDQ0ZAUo8uhFYdolORZuK4kW6r0rjnOUvDTPgxedAOiLS7e9W37ICiJd_AZkQgixKaEAVlLKPTYAtnnmszBoTGdVSI9IIEn8j0v2Z_Fpz0TEzqiobF7qeKuO5v2BQo9K3IBfoJpoFre22WlzlgbeJZX10.uc154mELqZFk01AlqrSN5bl2d0_bobc12RqjWCxtOxBo1H9OBj16Q48- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:1448958899 Message-ID:<1448958899-1264038204-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-176401828-@bda816.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Reply-To: spiffymo@yahoo.com X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: spiffymo@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 01:43:20 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [sfraves] Pandora theme? Hey All, I'm not sure how many of you watched avatar, but it made me want to go to a Rave afterwards. I think it would be awesome if someone could organise a pandora themed event and everyone could wear black light reactive paint. And paint a bunch of fake plants with paint too. I'm sure its just a pipe dream but I figured I'd share. -monica --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151796-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 21 16:39:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4660 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Jan 2010 16:39:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4625 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2010 16:39:30 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:x-rim-org-msg-ref-id :return-receipt-to:message-id:reply-to:x-priority:sensitivity :importance:subject:to:from:date:content-type:mime-version; bh=tnEqkr9aLD2j/yUNv1+cnQGsVj6sPTk2dnuka5m7OSE=; b=DX0uhwKEoagxytCDUwlx42p9sZ7igiNZdem4dqx7w+DHDgSvribIQdv8K1uSFHpjdL K7qvo7wotbNVxz+rXnHg5SbDHlxjnM+zLi+PxaBP87FkH4JJvL0bbANnNVmB2F5XYwdW ITAmQd4+TnW6j1MdmJd7Mok6sPUEX5QYY+CWw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:return-receipt-to:message-id:reply-to :x-priority:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date:content-type :mime-version; b=Lb0SQNy+RyJgki/vm+lOU66SlV5XQczim7520VHTGBcjr2Cu8VyXCXkBKcfKuSY0SN lUY6/5Y6Hl9qbtAFrr0DDWcUZzcOhO66BSCpjlfCV4aWKr2uTfYace/osBOjnQCwfFp8 4ZkbnThEBAU3YPBk82aeddhrpGfttqf8I7pL4= X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:1007351402 Message-ID:<1007351402-1264091964-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-292621862-@bda748.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Reply-To: cmilazzo@gmail.com X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: spiffymo@yahoo.com,sfraves@hyperreal.org From: cmilazzo@gmail.com Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:43:57 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [sfraves] Pandora theme? I'd love to participate/help if someone does want to do this! ------Original Message------ From: spiffymo@yahoo.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org ReplyTo: spiffymo@yahoo.com Subject: [sfraves] Pandora theme? Sent: Jan 20, 2010 5:43 PM Hey All, I'm not sure how many of you watched avatar, but it made me want to go to a Rave afterwards. I think it would be awesome if someone could organise a pandora themed event and everyone could wear black light reactive paint. And paint a bunch of fake plants with paint too. I'm sure its just a pipe dream but I figured I'd share. -monica --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151797-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 21 17:14:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27496 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Jan 2010 17:14:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27399 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2010 17:14:36 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1264094074; bh=vwPpRAtxs96y5Qbx12/j92j3zlFdZyg2ZbDPVQU36iE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=B08HxYTKGdId+QtpfIm96l4oS2nmWlvUi0w38KXZMLPTzL/hL36OYZSg9ZNfFaT4x5FtAwHUPOn9iA8U3JQc4k5zuHw/E6HRokLmCHnwjz7wht1ZiiDeC/DcwP6zFxIvRFpu/Hlm/VgWuY5WFOouw+JCZVd6BxrnDjX6s3aGnso= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PJiAqnX1qRwALTJb4osQkqUwuanFI9M27HTe99HjjivyCgqapc51Bb8dju2cauRUcMCpeyBcL5AB8bpnfpaVGK10YkqW7SrQNzT2dta1mtkSCajz6OwieoD/oKiaFXcfSi1LG88t28NTW25AJf6bKT/BuiU8bTq99aCWWslMurQ=; Message-ID: <556969.31968.qm@web32406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Axwt4bsVM1leljcFQHULjd7BCl5.EeGjQj_HD5ZrnCW2XqzUlZt1SjZ65K264Gq_AYvL8ZLUDx3OiNgRHrcEKVRJOIkhzl9kfNknM._pUmIMOBmZRLWZbK5uKPmpziDYDxGRoYrtkWyAUUFI.A.TIoGc.omrrDHS9Ez08FkcUZLeQQqlTlqJ1GFpMu2zfEE9F15Ct__hLcAdkZZj4fWu0o90dPYaKIF.sURWU8wdn56dOQ5TjCigLox43w9lqnedR1TyP7CRKp_u5BFx96dPbC7Pjn3vjlZ9L.3d06M6rY.4P1wwuOZdXIG_LTrg0qWuWYzcdFOlmfG6W294L_f1fP3kxdF38WkS X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/272.7 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <1007351402-1264091964-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-292621862-@bda748.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 09:14:34 -0800 (PST) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: cmilazzo@gmail.com, spiffymo@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <1007351402-1264091964-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-292621862-@bda748.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [sfraves] Pandora theme? The paint is easy to get... I'd like to see this done as an outdoor renegade on a new moon. What you really need for this are extremely strong black lights. I don't know who owns those locally, but I do know that the Tantra crew had a black light room at a party a few years back that was intense. But harder to do outside. Best, Peter ----- Original Message ---- From: "cmilazzo@gmail.com" To: spiffymo@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Thu, January 21, 2010 8:43:57 AM Subject: Re: [sfraves] Pandora theme? I'd love to participate/help if someone does want to do this! ------Original Message------ From: spiffymo@yahoo.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org ReplyTo: spiffymo@yahoo.com Subject: [sfraves] Pandora theme? Sent: Jan 20, 2010 5:43 PM Hey All, I'm not sure how many of you watched avatar, but it made me want to go to a Rave afterwards. I think it would be awesome if someone could organise a pandora themed event and everyone could wear black light reactive paint. And paint a bunch of fake plants with paint too. I'm sure its just a pipe dream but I figured I'd share. -monica --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151798-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 21 18:08:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9183 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Jan 2010 18:08:14 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9161 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2010 18:08:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <556969.31968.qm@web32406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1007351402-1264091964-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-292621862-@bda748.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <556969.31968.qm@web32406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 10:08:13 -0800 Message-ID: <42a0b30f1001211008r6b8a2354u4e041b1ccd9a66f1@mail.gmail.com> From: Ray Wong To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com Cc: cmilazzo@gmail.com, spiffymo@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd139d628a668047db09654 Subject: Re: [sfraves] Pandora theme? --000e0cd139d628a668047db09654 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 strong black lights aren't that difficult, but are kind of pricey. The regular 4ft fluorescent tubes are very strong when you first buy them and then tend to lose intensity. and yeah, harder to do outside, mostly due to power requirements. also cost, though... all those tubes and fixtures and wiring... On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:14 AM, wrote: > The paint is easy to get... > > I'd like to see this done as an outdoor renegade on a new moon. > > What you really need for this are extremely strong black lights. I don't > know who owns those locally, but I do know that the Tantra crew had a black > light room at a party a few years back that was intense. But harder to do > outside. > > Best, > > Peter > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "cmilazzo@gmail.com" > To: spiffymo@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Thu, January 21, 2010 8:43:57 AM > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Pandora theme? > > I'd love to participate/help if someone does want to do this! > ------Original Message------ > From: spiffymo@yahoo.com > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > ReplyTo: spiffymo@yahoo.com > Subject: [sfraves] Pandora theme? > Sent: Jan 20, 2010 5:43 PM > > Hey All, I'm not sure how many of you watched avatar, but it made me want > to go to a Rave afterwards. I think it would be awesome if someone could > organise a pandora themed event and everyone could wear black light reactive > paint. And paint a bunch of fake plants with paint too. I'm sure its just a > pipe dream but I figured I'd share. -monica > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --000e0cd139d628a668047db09654-- From sfraves-return-151799-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 21 18:16:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20779 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Jan 2010 18:16:01 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20677 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2010 18:15:57 -0000 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 10:15:56 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Estioko To: Ray Wong cc: dangrsmind@yahoo.com, cmilazzo@gmail.com, spiffymo@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <42a0b30f1001211008r6b8a2354u4e041b1ccd9a66f1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <1007351402-1264091964-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-292621862-@bda748.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <556969.31968.qm@web32406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <42a0b30f1001211008r6b8a2354u4e041b1ccd9a66f1@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [sfraves] Pandora theme? Best bet for UV reactive paint (for large scale projects): Douglas and Sturgess in SF http://www.artstuf.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=86_103 Trick is to buy the pigment in different colors as dry powder, then buy the medium separately in 5 gallon buckets. You can mix the pigments/medium to make additional colors. We've gone through buckets of that stuff back in the day :-) Blacklights are easy, you just need some 4' dual ballast flourescent light fixtures: http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xr5/R-202022571/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053 and some blacklight tubes: http://www.lowes.com/pd_147959-371-10531_0_?productId=1136617&Ntt=blacklight&Ntk=i_products&pl=1¤tURL=/pl__0__s?newSearch=true$Ntt=blacklight$y=0$x=0&$ They're not that expensive, I have a dozen or so I keep stored in my garage that get brought out to parties sometimes, I've had them for a decade, they still do the trick. But yeah, doing this outside (off generator power) could be problematic. -terry ------------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@hyperreal.org SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org On Thu, 21 Jan 2010, Ray Wong wrote: > strong black lights aren't that difficult, but are kind of pricey. The > regular 4ft fluorescent tubes are very strong when you first buy them and > then tend to lose intensity. and yeah, harder to do outside, mostly due to > power requirements. also cost, though... all those tubes and fixtures and > wiring... > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:14 AM, wrote: > >> The paint is easy to get... >> >> I'd like to see this done as an outdoor renegade on a new moon. >> >> What you really need for this are extremely strong black lights. I don't >> know who owns those locally, but I do know that the Tantra crew had a black >> light room at a party a few years back that was intense. But harder to do >> outside. >> >> Best, >> >> Peter >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: "cmilazzo@gmail.com" >> To: spiffymo@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org >> Sent: Thu, January 21, 2010 8:43:57 AM >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Pandora theme? >> >> I'd love to participate/help if someone does want to do this! >> ------Original Message------ >> From: spiffymo@yahoo.com >> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >> ReplyTo: spiffymo@yahoo.com >> Subject: [sfraves] Pandora theme? >> Sent: Jan 20, 2010 5:43 PM >> >> Hey All, I'm not sure how many of you watched avatar, but it made me want >> to go to a Rave afterwards. I think it would be awesome if someone could >> organise a pandora themed event and everyone could wear black light reactive >> paint. And paint a bunch of fake plants with paint too. I'm sure its just a >> pipe dream but I figured I'd share. -monica >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151800-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 21 18:41:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60062 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Jan 2010 18:41:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60020 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2010 18:41:24 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1264099282; bh=oNc2r0Kl6uucBsvkY+OpWC/JDnDUMluDUYgRGHrDN5c=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=goak/UzQSYiWs3O0iSNs8Xprp7hwzhUV8kqrH2ggZ4NPIUB3ArEYYDtHouFkTaIli0liRowQYC+Gm/QhtD2PkSmx4iXDPxEr/cHlLKQXS62PhABt7LrF/Lu/eJas+dONozrJj2q4LzfWNkUUTDtOV2xrB9Ta6ii8fua573JEAbg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UN6L+rMQECPFCwuXAT0Awevjohi/A+WG9LBPHcwO1Pt3+Fx0kjsBp16lKd+UMXEOPpOhh9vXNpc/icbqCPPWFnRD5dKFJePiO1j8VBX0DGlg+zxKgIfeJgOB2hk+oaaqKWoWFiEa2qVUKjYSkeenHAWePG1XkMJNvEPzO8xJx00=; Message-ID: <707600.13536.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 79dBClIVM1ltslovpLTop14rVirJ6nIIGDEzg_alWD9O6SSgu1EI29PB4iLhomuE940wY3nbQG1vvMgew2ZXHK1ACucSvWnQKVcpUPpksnb2_5bKkI2JXAdowRf8yIdLtOqacQXtTR4z2UIRsIK_rhEbf7v9EPEHogr8tbOg3lTClvR3GAKhkKl0qMtxtKROveSkCcCAwOR1mWi5yR56itv5oWte8Nba3DSj7_Phg2CzxrkKi_f6oFzLjVt1LjAAbSqTx8GNXEC4oyOw0E124fK7HlA5s5QxZfBv7ESUw1fJPSbW.ZAFAt._p_CDTatP3AQjD6TzpDkvvFkhdjX4cGkNUiqvEAmCEdeCiW68BS60PNEtfcE.imvp7s8wGUGeYUvvy_7mGU_FhPP9gBL5wSta5qwR_bxzTITdLLPAAP9FZ61XjN4kfm1GXsXE02m.IYnauM2256OL1vREIWCCOvgtCLBDGVnyeP9IB7rkehPRjmXvsSFgkf1MxCbPWIqufetqMFiPrNqwL_zQLKlbkt6ZHvz5_72aEuzc4G0dpcnEVjoUeP3RRRumMUOLvQx5BrJUt9pDjmDbRyKVR2aLFX2RqiHRRz_RG8vYxaNlgYGpGWXjXplqFYxPQMUeXpf0QDCArKDTTkHZhG0JF4jg1fRL9Wjyg.ML7eqCwPlQ.IIIoF9R_yr191GGN6NQBaDyhxaIxuv.3vvURnjEYGQ4S8quswZJXWkCXDxVsb_JmSOVQAfI2ZlD_lF1UQWvoNTvlSlGnmXCJiOx7GmWx1T.Tv.0TiKGuK6cFv360mgxDR.EMKyTNuNLvRbRggdY2RhlcD4Osb04c3e9k3c0DIxXWQiguMC_P5pVi8JX8dxJ5ZDt5gcWx3wn2v4pcWK6KTqwEi5i2Z8jw6OW0lmDDGgJlzMZhfeJhEk- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/272.7 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <1007351402-1264091964-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-292621862-@bda748.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <556969.31968.qm@web32406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <42a0b30f1001211008r6b8a2354u4e041b1ccd9a66f1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 10:41:22 -0800 (PST) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: Terry Estioko , Ray Wong Cc: cmilazzo@gmail.com, spiffymo@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [sfraves] Pandora theme? Well, it looks like El Nino is in town so no one is going to be doing outdoor renegades around here for a few months. Leaving plenty of time for planning. ;) :P Peter ----- Original Message ---- From: Terry Estioko To: Ray Wong Cc: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; cmilazzo@gmail.com; spiffymo@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Thu, January 21, 2010 10:15:56 AM Subject: Re: [sfraves] Pandora theme? Best bet for UV reactive paint (for large scale projects): Douglas and Sturgess in SF http://www.artstuf.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=86_103 Trick is to buy the pigment in different colors as dry powder, then buy the medium separately in 5 gallon buckets. You can mix the pigments/medium to make additional colors. We've gone through buckets of that stuff back in the day :-) Blacklights are easy, you just need some 4' dual ballast flourescent light fixtures: http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xr5/R-202022571/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053 and some blacklight tubes: http://www.lowes.com/pd_147959-371-10531_0_?productId=1136617&Ntt=blacklight&Ntk=i_products&pl=1¤tURL=/pl__0__s?newSearch=true$Ntt=blacklight$y=0$x=0&$ They're not that expensive, I have a dozen or so I keep stored in my garage that get brought out to parties sometimes, I've had them for a decade, they still do the trick. But yeah, doing this outside (off generator power) could be problematic. -terry ------------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@hyperreal.org SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org On Thu, 21 Jan 2010, Ray Wong wrote: > strong black lights aren't that difficult, but are kind of pricey. The > regular 4ft fluorescent tubes are very strong when you first buy them and > then tend to lose intensity. and yeah, harder to do outside, mostly due to > power requirements. also cost, though... all those tubes and fixtures and > wiring... > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:14 AM, wrote: > >> The paint is easy to get... >> >> I'd like to see this done as an outdoor renegade on a new moon. >> >> What you really need for this are extremely strong black lights. I don't >> know who owns those locally, but I do know that the Tantra crew had a black >> light room at a party a few years back that was intense. But harder to do >> outside. >> >> Best, >> >> Peter >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: "cmilazzo@gmail.com" >> To: spiffymo@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org >> Sent: Thu, January 21, 2010 8:43:57 AM >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Pandora theme? >> >> I'd love to participate/help if someone does want to do this! >> ------Original Message------ >> From: spiffymo@yahoo.com >> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >> ReplyTo: spiffymo@yahoo.com >> Subject: [sfraves] Pandora theme? >> Sent: Jan 20, 2010 5:43 PM >> >> Hey All, I'm not sure how many of you watched avatar, but it made me want >> to go to a Rave afterwards. I think it would be awesome if someone could >> organise a pandora themed event and everyone could wear black light reactive >> paint. And paint a bunch of fake plants with paint too. I'm sure its just a >> pipe dream but I figured I'd share. -monica >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151801-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 21 19:01:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 91760 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Jan 2010 19:01:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 91739 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2010 19:01:45 -0000 References: <1007351402-1264091964-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-292621862-@bda748.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <556969.31968.qm@web32406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <42a0b30f1001211008r6b8a2354u4e041b1ccd9a66f1@mail.gmail.com> To: rayw@rayw.net, dangrsmind@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:01:16 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.146.68.167 In-Reply-To: <42a0b30f1001211008r6b8a2354u4e041b1ccd9a66f1@mail.gmail.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: djhil2sf@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CC68E33E302987_25F8_DB7_webmail-d015.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 30462-STANDARD Cc: cmilazzo@gmail.com, spiffymo@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: <8CC68E33E24429D-25F8-69F@webmail-d015.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: DjHil2SF@aol.com Subject: Re: [sfraves] Pandora theme? ----------MB_8CC68E33E302987_25F8_DB7_webmail-d015.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have a small spool of 14 gauge 4 wire Romex that I may want to part wit= h. Should be good enough for the wiring aspect of it. Hil.=20 =20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Ray Wong To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com Cc: cmilazzo@gmail.com; spiffymo@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Thu, Jan 21, 2010 10:08 am Subject: Re: [sfraves] Pandora theme? strong black lights aren't that difficult, but are kind of pricey. The regular 4ft fluorescent tubes are very strong when you first buy them and then tend to lose intensity. and yeah, harder to do outside, mostly due= to power requirements. also cost, though... all those tubes and fixtures and wiring... On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:14 AM, wrote: > The paint is easy to get... > > I'd like to see this done as an outdoor renegade on a new moon. > > What you really need for this are extremely strong black lights. I don'= t > know who owns those locally, but I do know that the Tantra crew had a bl= ack > light room at a party a few years back that was intense. But harder to= do > outside. > > Best, > > Peter > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "cmilazzo@gmail.com" > To: spiffymo@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Thu, January 21, 2010 8:43:57 AM > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Pandora theme? > > I'd love to participate/help if someone does want to do this! > ------Original Message------ > From: spiffymo@yahoo.com > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > ReplyTo: spiffymo@yahoo.com > Subject: [sfraves] Pandora theme? > Sent: Jan 20, 2010 5:43 PM > > Hey All, I'm not sure how many of you watched avatar, but it made me wan= t > to go to a Rave afterwards. I think it would be awesome if someone could > organise a pandora themed event and everyone could wear black light reac= tive > paint. And paint a bunch of fake plants with paint too. I'm sure its jus= t a > pipe dream but I figured I'd share. -monica > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > =20 ----------MB_8CC68E33E302987_25F8_DB7_webmail-d015.sysops.aol.com-- From sfraves-return-151802-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 21 19:08:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 305 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Jan 2010 19:08:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 197 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2010 19:08:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=6Jw5JsXpSUTsFA70g8eaju8ScmZoJLVBRZmjflyNS6A=; b=Li2H8CcdPlLXQL68CSsMavhIktWlPKcRedYGLIt8cnu5iOrLXbRmWg8X6munL3Tgjs FIgoSbrq9rrtbssRWHcXCGjU2TmlW4raJ1bXX0TRs7uQA+HVrzl647rUJ54WCof1kH6v 0o8gRQaspH12aAg8JXhzs8HLUOp3p2dowgEXQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=JA3b1UzVeSYDeRSbWjl8xoKn8MKjzGIAdRJHLgxYDzSa4ho5llB97QAHfH7i2El3Sv M+apcBIaQ2OE5CJofVgRoI1VgnwN2iBS3fUQuDMU30LbA5P/Y26WPVC4qkqdhSYHgRaJ qyOs+OFAeS9PQv494hPwIlE/cAtJsqlCp/yOY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2b851b331001211102t41a52cc3vf14b73704e40cc2f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1007351402-1264091964-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-292621862-@bda748.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <556969.31968.qm@web32406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <42a0b30f1001211008r6b8a2354u4e041b1ccd9a66f1@mail.gmail.com> <2b851b331001211102t41a52cc3vf14b73704e40cc2f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 11:08:13 -0800 Message-ID: <2b851b331001211108g42f8ac94ld9c649d0b7cef9ff@mail.gmail.com> From: sean ocean To: Ray Wong Cc: spiffymo@yahoo.com, cmilazzo@gmail.com, dangrsmind@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000feaf1e133b20283047db16c98 Subject: Re: [sfraves] Pandora theme? --000feaf1e133b20283047db16c98 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 As a person who does a lot of blacklight art, i can say that paint is really expensive. Fake plants are mostly assembled by hand from silk and or reyon parts. So they're also are difficult to $acquire. The workaround is probably highlighter juice used as a dye and paper sculptures. This would take alot of effort and isn't necessarily flame retardent. The logistics are better fit for movie sized budgets or a cgi movie. It's a shame that props don't get used at parties any more but all it takes is a couple of ravers to diss your effort to make a promoter think twice. Trying not to state negativity but just the facts. Sean. On Jan 21, 2010 10:08 AM, "Ray Wong" wrote: strong black lights aren't that difficult, but are kind of pricey. The regular 4ft fluorescent tubes are very strong when you first buy them and then tend to lose intensity. and yeah, harder to do outside, mostly due to power requirements. also cost, though... all those tubes and fixtures and wiring... On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:14 AM, wrote: > The paint is easy to get... > > I... --000feaf1e133b20283047db16c98-- From sfraves-return-151803-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 21 19:33:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 30878 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Jan 2010 19:33:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 30816 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2010 19:33:19 -0000 Cc: dangrsmind@yahoo.com, cmilazzo@gmail.com, spiffymo@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: <7EFA398A-9C41-4023-8C76-33521CF35F2A@heroicrobot.com> From: Jas Strong To: Ray Wong In-Reply-To: <42a0b30f1001211008r6b8a2354u4e041b1ccd9a66f1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 11:33:13 -0800 References: <1007351402-1264091964-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-292621862-@bda748.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <556969.31968.qm@web32406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <42a0b30f1001211008r6b8a2354u4e041b1ccd9a66f1@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [sfraves] Pandora theme? My feeling is that blacklights are a lame way to achieve this; everyone likes how they look, but hates being bathed in their teeth- glowy skin-looks-weird light. I'd much rather do some mapping onto blank scenery with a cluster of independently driven projectors. Sure, it requires a visualist to supervise it, but the results can be astonishing. -J. On 21 Jan 2010, at 10:08, Ray Wong wrote: > strong black lights aren't that difficult, but are kind of pricey. > The > regular 4ft fluorescent tubes are very strong when you first buy > them and > then tend to lose intensity. and yeah, harder to do outside, mostly > due to > power requirements. also cost, though... all those tubes and > fixtures and > wiring... > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:14 AM, wrote: > >> The paint is easy to get... >> >> I'd like to see this done as an outdoor renegade on a new moon. >> >> What you really need for this are extremely strong black lights. I >> don't >> know who owns those locally, but I do know that the Tantra crew had >> a black >> light room at a party a few years back that was intense. But >> harder to do >> outside. >> >> Best, >> >> Peter >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: "cmilazzo@gmail.com" >> To: spiffymo@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org >> Sent: Thu, January 21, 2010 8:43:57 AM >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Pandora theme? >> >> I'd love to participate/help if someone does want to do this! >> ------Original Message------ >> From: spiffymo@yahoo.com >> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >> ReplyTo: spiffymo@yahoo.com >> Subject: [sfraves] Pandora theme? >> Sent: Jan 20, 2010 5:43 PM >> >> Hey All, I'm not sure how many of you watched avatar, but it made >> me want >> to go to a Rave afterwards. I think it would be awesome if someone >> could >> organise a pandora themed event and everyone could wear black light >> reactive >> paint. And paint a bunch of fake plants with paint too. I'm sure >> its just a >> pipe dream but I figured I'd share. -monica >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151804-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 21 21:00:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13506 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Jan 2010 21:00:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13481 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2010 21:00:33 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1264107632; bh=3UFMMLHEKbTyAbfAUXvtjCG7BLXYjuKLcoZmp/XxTZs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aYzC3SVwNgHcB3ILdunZCFzkybQdTEIQ5Yo9jnMsGb8Od6QFxLK6WnwoElTW71q0B+yfz/1T0sta9kmrgyk/44wq1SQ/qQzJuJcoVVuC0wvzyTyeuF1Xq+KR7xCT0ssyI0W+3+ruaCjcqSRcG8KXLenU+u3Of3j7FngXSXU2qnI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ihJCv38RzoK75dbGDMUHA8DHPZkIe9jyK2/bIRkClu6cQjUsk7I2lThpACfXq+a/D4ZROIdz+nFXkaOvYlPLKTTh+JMmdcWADYhThL21Jg3/wbJbgwGsAbXzwk9nhoEfEQI5IWETc/ZE5W/z6ve8hyNeGyRChmLmOJZ0Tg1paTo=; Message-ID: <177428.94053.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: M4t6n2UVM1n4yaQSWPK3X8Cxkqr01SZThtDCmkvlbJ9hvfhIlccg7JjStb9VS8DkYQqs24Ld5GiBdmFFXBoeFGHUMre9B3aoOby5LomgIcQfV7IGXZknrjyKmrETnM9aLrOFtSxKRSsVRlOM9hyhL6jS6d2mivKhVGNCNjRCCtV7wWchQbVvw1sGmgMlczHvz6VdnZ9rvbwO7zRqWeFzoBu1tEniJ0Ng3hiIxCUIfnzGiKsDDgmYtrXzGT1utYCqcbQe.5wiHHnZqugfB5uiRZWlCR4MY9to62YNRtskH6I2OdnoFHPaBIaa6PgeNXwMo97.7cQZQvjUtllk2Yt8HtWPdPwXduMVwSxmvJuQf0xlwQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/272.7 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <1007351402-1264091964-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-292621862-@bda748.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <556969.31968.qm@web32406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <42a0b30f1001211008r6b8a2354u4e041b1ccd9a66f1@mail.gmail.com> <7EFA398A-9C41-4023-8C76-33521CF35F2A@heroicrobot.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:00:32 -0800 (PST) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: Jas Strong , Ray Wong Cc: cmilazzo@gmail.com, spiffymo@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <7EFA398A-9C41-4023-8C76-33521CF35F2A@heroicrobot.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [sfraves] Pandora theme? Don't forget shows every speck of lint on your black shirt. Ok, now that you've all dropped a turd in my bongwater I'll get back to work ;) Peter ----- Original Message ---- From: Jas Strong To: Ray Wong Cc: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; cmilazzo@gmail.com; spiffymo@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Thu, January 21, 2010 11:33:13 AM Subject: Re: [sfraves] Pandora theme? My feeling is that blacklights are a lame way to achieve this; everyone likes how they look, but hates being bathed in their teeth-glowy skin-looks-weird light. I'd much rather do some mapping onto blank scenery with a cluster of independently driven projectors. Sure, it requires a visualist to supervise it, but the results can be astonishing. -J. On 21 Jan 2010, at 10:08, Ray Wong wrote: > strong black lights aren't that difficult, but are kind of pricey. The > regular 4ft fluorescent tubes are very strong when you first buy them and > then tend to lose intensity. and yeah, harder to do outside, mostly due to > power requirements. also cost, though... all those tubes and fixtures and > wiring... > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:14 AM, wrote: > >> The paint is easy to get... >> >> I'd like to see this done as an outdoor renegade on a new moon. >> >> What you really need for this are extremely strong black lights. I don't >> know who owns those locally, but I do know that the Tantra crew had a black >> light room at a party a few years back that was intense. But harder to do >> outside. >> >> Best, >> >> Peter >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: "cmilazzo@gmail.com" >> To: spiffymo@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org >> Sent: Thu, January 21, 2010 8:43:57 AM >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Pandora theme? >> >> I'd love to participate/help if someone does want to do this! >> ------Original Message------ >> From: spiffymo@yahoo.com >> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >> ReplyTo: spiffymo@yahoo.com >> Subject: [sfraves] Pandora theme? >> Sent: Jan 20, 2010 5:43 PM >> >> Hey All, I'm not sure how many of you watched avatar, but it made me want >> to go to a Rave afterwards. I think it would be awesome if someone could >> organise a pandora themed event and everyone could wear black light reactive >> paint. And paint a bunch of fake plants with paint too. I'm sure its just a >> pipe dream but I figured I'd share. -monica >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151805-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 21 22:19:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 97211 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Jan 2010 22:19:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 97149 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2010 22:19:37 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:Return-Receipt-To:Message-ID:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Reply-To:X-Priority:References:In-Reply-To:Sensitivity:Importance:To:Cc:Subject:From:Date:Content-Type:MIME-Version; b=hOY9ORtcY55gKJoEx5Z0V7dcVJ+Ay4Ow/4UtoJsSyxShYfR2FFofRX6bKxhF4ucWeljsHzIg7I8MWsi9DDXEzrWf72y6OFFIGygs7GtHMbsh5IingnXF4f8hTKq2lPtt8bPxW10UB1jAXw+LcbI7/lDHe+RhYy3yeAnIbDY2Cic= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: i6vslsWswBA7EwDwX7JqPtogRQF6 X-YMail-OSG: zeNzk_YVM1kvUYH8pVlTvGbSfR5jbj3LZZ4rPXh5eLrGzgVeZ7q8kUPSj5LB7tvy1mn1GBUXR2vIFSfVGRrrKzk7CvtqV6mWcc5s.L11e.5TblD32dPHrJeaW4oLX3bkPGrLqiCR6av1iEhSiYvn7VKdvk4UG0WQhWnMh_kRuSPLttegyRU.zTBbhzOv5I6foRvaz69nw.rjjFuU0FetYklbSx2dwhVmBdb_E5jcNiuVsCQPSuOrzzXVA3B54bK5Vq4T6QqW7zcMJzCPri4ajTbcuZHZbO7hDxVC3rXttY5A4CLd8CYRAovAnsrHuf0PQO6NFsYzm39wx6e82Q2DxY9gKJBu X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:267957184 Message-ID:<267957184-1264112374-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-935346646-@bda816.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Reply-To: spiffymo@yahoo.com X-Priority: Normal References: <1007351402-1264091964-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-292621862-@bda748.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <556969.31968.qm@web32406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <42a0b30f1001211008r6b8a2354u4e041b1ccd9a66f1@mail.gmail.com> <7EFA398A-9C41-4023-8C76-33521CF35F2A@heroicrobot.com><177428.94053.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <177428.94053.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com, "Jas Strong" , "Ray Wong" Cc: cmilazzo@gmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: spiffymo@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 22:19:36 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [sfraves] Pandora theme? 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spiffymo@yahoo.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163646b9a25588fe047db500a6 Subject: Re: [sfraves] Pandora theme? --00163646b9a25588fe047db500a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 If you all got *really* ambitious you could incorporate the Na'vi West African Bwiti Initiation Ceremony into it. Their Ibogaine Sacrament has about the same effect as the worm Jake Sully swallowed as part of him being accepted by the Na'vi.: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=286458451806 Be sure to check out the pic at the bottom of the Note for Costume ideas. It's too bad the technology doesn't exist yet to get that part of the Avatar script onto film. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:43 AM, wrote: > Hey All, I'm not sure how many of you watched avatar, but it made me want > to go to a Rave afterwards. I think it would be awesome if someone could > organise a pandora themed event and everyone could wear black light reactive > paint. And paint a bunch of fake plants with paint too. I'm sure its just a > pipe dream but I figured I'd share. -monica > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > -- "We can't pay and we wouldn't pay. Even if I had the money I would rather burn everything I owned, and I wouldn't even give them the ashes." PirateBay FTW --00163646b9a25588fe047db500a6-- From sfraves-return-151807-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 21 23:47:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 98387 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Jan 2010 23:47:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 98351 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2010 23:47:31 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=6ijCvMOCKbJeO0vZPRt3xSlTsTptoHnj1Qj/jRdrGBE=; b=XgLgrpKDtxTGvzz7ebCfbBcYUtODYIMhRGd5ADrzS55WGwHLbtGs4loR467xJwZVC/ 4a/GH/khvrU9bakJ0S5mAO3rG/T8DkhpX1ycdiitlDuuOguWsibLSGReI6IgIccqWVAz PCClCYCgehPLrobmmjivyCp3D9SKAVCdg36wI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=SgHOBPHxcB8fSyomKmK4XctKL57pjmJPwJONKMY5byEgLVPWhF5ZaVOmuY7ksxWd/Z hIiYavphhaB7DEc7BftZlTQb+ryGQqqvhjetgOgsk/Jli4EW0jUrmDIpZf38uj6yw5dF c1tQVDeWglE3t5A2Q2IM/KjGR9f/BT44EtlxY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7237bf9f1001211524n4a17c12dm2224be12521f9c40@mail.gmail.com> References: <1448958899-1264038204-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-176401828-@bda816.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <7237bf9f1001211524n4a17c12dm2224be12521f9c40@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:47:30 -0800 Message-ID: <2b851b331001211547w6408cee8p4991de5765c94525@mail.gmail.com> From: sean ocean To: Nyc Labrets Cc: spiffymo@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000feaf1e1338552c0047db5533c Subject: Re: [sfraves] Pandora theme? --000feaf1e1338552c0047db5533c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 With the ibogaine you wouldn't need all those props. You'd save a ton of money. `;P `;) On Jan 21, 2010 3:24 PM, "Nyc Labrets" wrote: If you all got *really* ambitious you could incorporate the Na'vi West African Bwiti Initiation Ceremony into it. Their Ibogaine Sacrament has about the same effect as the worm Jake Sully swallowed as part of him being accepted by the Na'vi.: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=286458451806 Be sure to check out the pic at the bottom of the Note for Costume ideas. It's too bad the technology doesn't exist yet to get that part of the Avatar script onto film. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:43 AM, wrote: > Hey All, I'm not sure how many of... -- "We can't pay and we wouldn't pay. Even if I had the money I would rather burn everything I owned, and I wouldn't even give them the ashes." PirateBay FTW --000feaf1e1338552c0047db5533c-- From sfraves-return-151808-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 22 01:07:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 84743 invoked by uid 1103); 22 Jan 2010 01:07:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 84722 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2010 01:07:47 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=YHsDpcTzgDd8OS2KemWsoi9ERYeTOc2eQKZcVk+Ah3o=; b=lOLiqwwFh4MCFlPKK0+y+IyUN6Fo99PPNHXNOnSlYzezgl0N/ToKKj0JOyznOUW+YH Gc2dGJ3BOIbNkBzxsTJA/uWqfqU7Dopkr+GPmmQDE8dx47OKZJGEZLbK9m47pyDCm4LE CfvLWz50ixxcsqz9DEjZVLEF7og1LEXPyrsxs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=rxH8yAN0QqEKQ3YcYCA0LoBfqUZNlkURW6+19IJ656ByGOwEHOGOUJp+zhrkseNqXW EDxDHuE8HAQ96Vv2VCj7R9cf2V48/ZW7Z3eCIhr58aNXJ+VYT85y7NRJuApqnNv/xV6A 08nQD/69OIiPJRnVwy0WB6nRGxX2PbQgoyl8E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2b851b331001211547w6408cee8p4991de5765c94525@mail.gmail.com> References: <1448958899-1264038204-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-176401828-@bda816.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <7237bf9f1001211524n4a17c12dm2224be12521f9c40@mail.gmail.com> <2b851b331001211547w6408cee8p4991de5765c94525@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:07:45 +0100 Message-ID: <7237bf9f1001211707ud9ce91bx66b9bfd5bac8bf4f@mail.gmail.com> From: Nyc Labrets To: sean ocean Cc: spiffymo@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=a4731854230087f5a6047db67200 Subject: Re: [sfraves] Pandora theme? --a4731854230087f5a6047db67200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ibogaine by itself, never mind the price to get competent treatment, is =E2= =82=AC250 Euros a gram. Too bad it's Schedule I, and illegal in the USA, not that that sort of thin= g has stopped any ya'll before. On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:47 AM, sean ocean wrot= e: > With the ibogaine you wouldn't need all those props. You'd save a ton of > money. `;P `;) > > On Jan 21, 2010 3:24 PM, "Nyc Labrets" > wrote: > > If you all got *really* ambitious you could incorporate the Na'vi West > African Bwiti Initiation Ceremony into it. > > Their Ibogaine Sacrament has about the same effect as the worm Jake Sully > swallowed as part of him being accepted by the Na'vi.: > > http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=3D286458451806 > > Be sure to check out the pic at the bottom of the Note for Costume ideas. > > It's too bad the technology doesn't exist yet to get that part of the > Avatar > script onto film. > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:43 AM, wrote: > Hey All, > I'm not sure how many of... > -- > > "We can't pay and we wouldn't pay. Even if I had the money I would rather > burn everything I owned, and I wouldn't even give them the ashes." > > PirateBay > > FTW > > --=20 "We can't pay and we wouldn't pay. Even if I had the money I would rather burn everything I owned, and I wouldn't even give them the ashes." PirateBay FTW --a4731854230087f5a6047db67200-- From sfraves-return-151809-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 22 01:13:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 90091 invoked by uid 1103); 22 Jan 2010 01:13:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 89982 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2010 01:13:47 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PQHy0XhooNnbyV4+rH09z5OG7Tuwf887ArovqSqwKmk=; b=mGK5fjcELLKYYdMX86C19NmdgnBow8uvVkmFAFxXzAmzQPaF0slv+L08cpNm7epRBw fOgtWBj0MQzuHIiUp7lOeAJ2lUWTwVk436VIdwr0SwoN+A+XTcQUSjD3J7EW/HsSvsPa 3cq+mANO4Ds0fNITchwSewXngiA/VLIfuF/AY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=BuZ0RtWMTLIAVaouW+tnTVvUJm5Q78RPt/QdD0QbxvcN2U77MdziCEIzxEeMm4JXdu pydfaZ5Cv8ZG912AS79AW4pLPY/M5jTEXNAUkHjCRaiHPa3g624wGF1e70xCLM14vOrx Yemrzb8mfZ6oJaMNJGQPwX9glFDZo7FRr7Aa8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7237bf9f1001211707ud9ce91bx66b9bfd5bac8bf4f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1448958899-1264038204-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-176401828-@bda816.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <7237bf9f1001211524n4a17c12dm2224be12521f9c40@mail.gmail.com> <2b851b331001211547w6408cee8p4991de5765c94525@mail.gmail.com> <7237bf9f1001211707ud9ce91bx66b9bfd5bac8bf4f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:13:44 -0800 Message-ID: <19b8baf41001211713x1bee689encefabaa037e0a38e@mail.gmail.com> From: Media Bass To: Nyc Labrets , sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0014852f7909e795ec047db687cd Subject: Re: [sfraves] Pandora theme? --0014852f7909e795ec047db687cd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MediaBass likes this. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Nyc Labrets w= rote: > Ibogaine by itself, never mind the price to get competent treatment, is > =80250 > Euros a gram. > > Too bad it's Schedule I, and illegal in the USA, not that that sort of > thing > has stopped any ya'll before. > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:47 AM, sean ocean >wrote: > > > With the ibogaine you wouldn't need all those props. You'd save a ton o= f > > money. `;P `;) > > > > On Jan 21, 2010 3:24 PM, "Nyc Labrets" > > wrote: > > > > If you all got *really* ambitious you could incorporate the Na'vi West > > African Bwiti Initiation Ceremony into it. > > > > Their Ibogaine Sacrament has about the same effect as the worm Jake Sul= ly > > swallowed as part of him being accepted by the Na'vi.: > > > > http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=3D286458451806 > > > > Be sure to check out the pic at the bottom of the Note for Costume idea= s. > > > > It's too bad the technology doesn't exist yet to get that part of the > > Avatar > > script onto film. > > > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:43 AM, wrote: > Hey All, > > I'm not sure how many of... > > -- > > > > "We can't pay and we wouldn't pay. Even if I had the money I would rath= er > > burn everything I owned, and I wouldn't even give them the ashes." > > > > PirateBay > > > > FTW > > > > > > > -- > "We can't pay and we wouldn't pay. Even if I had the money I would rather > burn everything I owned, and I wouldn't even give them the ashes." > > PirateBay > > FTW > --0014852f7909e795ec047db687cd-- From sfraves-return-151810-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 22 22:02:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60707 invoked by uid 1103); 22 Jan 2010 22:02:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60690 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2010 22:02:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:02:34 -0800 Message-ID: From: "J.C." To: sfraves Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? Anyone heard of this person? I just got spammed. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151811-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 22 22:04:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 62193 invoked by uid 1103); 22 Jan 2010 22:04:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 62126 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2010 22:04:27 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=TKs+2RnAALDcr6C1C1xx47WD4kCBNKyzNx1zqVmYKz8=; b=dh0KUmQGRRA/5p4aRu2lbBsKzSFnpys6RWfbr/pr4LBWSmfpY5pj0KZD/BWRuOAE1R Xa+YtwwAX4LDGqM5JDIJURbvZsdO8qXRIBLf8sluxH4JR8ea6sbwFeWrK/SsvW8A64PQ Ecf1dZmNGpNzUzMcwyJ8yo9VMXF8yGygJcEaA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=g5iy1bkEMQMqoBCBvHbGXjDy+9RiH3CGeChN2VTW/tfepv0J1n4ROtQ+/DRSipZHCl NVOC1LrqTdBYBtJz6LSWnFH9o4hnBUh93mEW1S82QJwFQFEhgggqwjen/XzwJ2XOfVCQ WUEnhwUb1NVGFLz6v4SUI2qKO9HReshgqM/8g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:04:27 -0800 Message-ID: From: Matt Stone To: "J.C." Cc: sfraves Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325561852ce1fe1047dc80014 Subject: Re: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? --000325561852ce1fe1047dc80014 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yea, I met her recently, what up? On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:02 PM, J.C. wrote: > Anyone heard of this person? I just got spammed. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --000325561852ce1fe1047dc80014-- From sfraves-return-151812-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 22 22:06:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 65605 invoked by uid 1103); 22 Jan 2010 22:06:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 65537 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2010 22:06:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=berkeleyrecords.com; h=Received:Reply-To:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language:X-Identified-User; b=P/5JFBL9ovw+0MZKierMBw4W8UUvwcvK1cQb5i53jo67Z2L9Ux4sH3JvjnUVA/W2K16rU9okn1MmhXPkvEyYBYM7SCXOxBw+xekH9m2diPvj6RF3/+j2nA0oUTFmJqn/; Reply-To: From: "Jimbo" To: "'J.C.'" , "'sfraves'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:06:53 -0800 Message-ID: <000301ca9baf$34e9f390$9ebddab0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acqbrpr3Cx3y3V2KSdOfXa6rzwvMugAAI1Ig Content-Language: en-us X-Identified-User: {2918:host352.hostmonster.com:berkele4:berkeleyrecords.com} {sentby:smtp auth 64.81.54.8 authed with jimip@berkeleyrecords.com} Subject: RE: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? There is a Spambulance in route sir -----Original Message----- From: J.C. [mailto:dougm@kzsu.stanford.edu] Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:03 PM To: sfraves Subject: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? Anyone heard of this person? I just got spammed. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151813-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 22 22:20:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 74021 invoked by uid 1103); 22 Jan 2010 22:20:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 74004 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2010 22:20:18 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1264198817; bh=ollPf3qZiy9DmALSaw7vqK294FctMvPaGx3XiQDHEBQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=N2qqnUL6ochd65pJgUIj5RW6L7Fh8skIwqbRPF6iTmiwBk4l+UDzHPAYbSVIDlEcjEVW+x/1oRoexXTX+iBM+aj1LyEYAuh+8c2mVLh1VPnREY149BFsZpI6e7XCqv9eu7YydsmEptIKOCrkcTVFRojrIxJoThGvQxhrjI23uEU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=c9IDbUCaU3tokyjtcrfqTG6whJwmG5uFne/QdZSb5rFPZSWw35z8eTiQOCSdnIF1OWf9PIgfsVm/RCNOYLjx3xJhTmEQhrWDRqNtt4Aq7b/ot7d0eCgwOGRzu/G+ZGPSS1IMwnElMUYfUieSbTMyFN4b7QqDG/wIp4q9PaJUlSA=; Message-ID: <741478.47308.qm@web113201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 7dreVaoVM1ltCahv1gZ6Xt8toLArLk4kXqIU9ziKDnyLKQXD04nQZGQu4FU2eq5H4OKBUVjueU7FB45QEryYEzoGmEypHg42vH9mrPj1IWeZTngG.qP.Ag23rwNXTkp3c9D4Q3k9o4rc1eRCUOZHVhstgp_QqEk_mfWpjgINnNStyDueKMiBHOSjs6s_BvABTi5oRZHE2D.g9a886oO7T6P7uQUNcqqd9CDgkz06njCRJSe95T6ZNKf_.49SZp44WfEpOyeOfRYYiRtk0H.tGTTFv2FbN8qg7sBQKzuGicmrAvOuvJjleZJFZnkc7_uGt29hkYWh9APCs7v7noVG8ekUxkM58bYgrDzCE39oPD4u.g-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.1.10 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:20:17 -0800 (PST) From: Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat To: "'J.C.'" , 'sfraves' , jimip@berkeleyrecords.com In-Reply-To: <000301ca9baf$34e9f390$9ebddab0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-145814098-1264198817=:47308" Subject: RE: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? --0-145814098-1264198817=:47308 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable she's an awesome person...i know she was trying to use a new email service = that she was referred to, i'm hoping thats not what it is..lemme know and i= 'll let her know... -adriana "Dance is your pulse, your heartbeat, your breathing. It's the rhythm of yo= ur life. It's the expression in time and movement, in happiness, joy, sadne= ss and envy."=20 "Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like no one's watching" "I am married to music ~ Addicted to bass ~ I belong to the rhythm ~ The da= nce floor's my place.." --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Jimbo wrote: From: Jimbo Subject: RE: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? To: "'J.C.'" , "'sfraves'" Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:06 PM There is a Spambulance in route sir -----Original Message----- From: J.C. [mailto:dougm@kzsu.stanford.edu]=20 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:03 PM To: sfraves Subject: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? Anyone heard of this person?=A0 I just got spammed. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org =0A=0A=0A --0-145814098-1264198817=:47308-- From sfraves-return-151814-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 22 23:25:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14472 invoked by uid 1103); 22 Jan 2010 23:25:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14454 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2010 23:25:52 -0000 Message-ID: <008001ca9bba$d83b2ea0$0400000a@sziggo> From: "arycK \(IDGAF\)" To: References: <1448958899-1264038204-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-176401828-@bda816.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <7237bf9f1001211524n4a17c12dm2224be12521f9c40@mail.gmail.com> <2b851b331001211547w6408cee8p4991de5765c94525@mail.gmail.com> <7237bf9f1001211707ud9ce91bx66b9bfd5bac8bf4f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 15:30:11 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-ELNK-Trace: 6a880de683994333d4c20f6b8d69d888494b88d665f13b4088a8d91963bee87adb3ac8ccd0cf384d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 99.29.240.21 Subject: Re: [sfraves] Pandora theme? Now. . . This all has me thinking. . . If you were an ant, the regular household type. And you were invading someone's bathroom. Would you rather: a: Be squished b: Be drowned c: Be poisoned ??????????????????????? hmmmm. . . arycK --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151815-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 22 23:28:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16730 invoked by uid 1103); 22 Jan 2010 23:28:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16681 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2010 23:28:39 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=IW7a5y7bYjF+vmxLG0LFTAmOMp+LyA/XmTbfO9M0FbA=; b=Uxqo5iReZgvZO6qcu7mNs9i0T/KLTQIkL/ZQRSplYXRNj+hM3qgjYue/tUBE/vkX1R s1oR6OOP0tyG/CXzbDwbiy5D1bbMQAvrGFmrk1nVwhrzIiRyZaH5UXrAr++OhvKRbz17 NKS16lvyXzA/Bkmc3hdgadLBFrtXYVWl+kxZo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=AojCFeiKHy7qiEMH645OYaDC4HnMdqGdyzJe3koG2b7z0JzbazXW5PgsM6B+2ecFeQ O878JRX3yQcs8xvkg6jbpFtRHDEz9DlcX8GfYmJeqr+ZYmqBfuMPFUWz48b64+R2o3+x 5l8XWJSP/IDkXd9JFnrdJwBJv62BlUN789qsg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <008001ca9bba$d83b2ea0$0400000a@sziggo> References: <1448958899-1264038204-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-176401828-@bda816.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <7237bf9f1001211524n4a17c12dm2224be12521f9c40@mail.gmail.com> <2b851b331001211547w6408cee8p4991de5765c94525@mail.gmail.com> <7237bf9f1001211707ud9ce91bx66b9bfd5bac8bf4f@mail.gmail.com> <008001ca9bba$d83b2ea0$0400000a@sziggo> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 15:28:38 -0800 Message-ID: <2b851b331001221528g546e4544na409689a59dfc4@mail.gmail.com> From: sean ocean To: "arycK (IDGAF)" Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00c09f88d2b7db1082047dc92d79 Subject: Re: [sfraves] Pandora theme? --00c09f88d2b7db1082047dc92d79 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 my reply would depend if we were ants having a blacklight rave. Otherwise.. Wtf? On Jan 22, 2010 3:25 PM, "arycK (IDGAF)" wrote: Now. . . This all has me thinking. . . If you were an ant, the regular household type. And you were invading someone's bathroom. Would you rather: a: Be squished b: Be drowned c: Be poisoned ??????????????????????? hmmmm. . . arycK --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfr... --00c09f88d2b7db1082047dc92d79-- From sfraves-return-151816-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Jan 23 00:20:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 41731 invoked by uid 1103); 23 Jan 2010 00:20:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 41701 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2010 00:20:31 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=oagMZBhsKfxici1eYQhtfU+nV7e5O6OXoD24cb+Lulo=; b=d9MvvER6nv16dwKE/pwjTpWJf5myjdQX2XYBMamtcCmQboMaVkNDs2zxcn/JdNMfzT XDzk/4CozY86YoOTPMwd/rJ0n+8l5gRv8HyRH2bIQUIs/mxCIf/WelpX4kN1CZyvvJYj RKlvkU7EoSs2y5WevzVTkt2hg7LByhzpE5xUI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=cbA6M5YEwcyjvGYGBodvTTUQ/Q4aSdZjBGyCYquVEsA40JNC/BDymhxIMOtrxMTWWK tAk8J04S6kA8h4S+H1/aVOdMDMHUwMht5D8D5W7pRTrLiNafRiPq/9DlN8ZPXKt18vPI hmbTNQadqBa/rRDFkERY6yxG2el/X/FBt/MeQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <741478.47308.qm@web113201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <000301ca9baf$34e9f390$9ebddab0$@com> <741478.47308.qm@web113201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:20:30 -0600 Message-ID: <5c23c6721001221620n1d2cafe8he629bef2b127a977@mail.gmail.com> From: Matthew Johnson To: Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat Cc: "J.C." , sfraves , jimip@berkeleyrecords.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502b672597ca1047dc9e7f2 Subject: Re: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? --00504502b672597ca1047dc9e7f2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 she's a really good dj too. hope she's not engaging in obnoxious promotion practices, though it would surprise me if she's doing it on purpose (having met her a couple times). On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat wrote: > she's an awesome person...i know she was trying to use a new email service > that she was referred to, i'm hoping thats not what it is..lemme know and > i'll let her know... > > -adriana > > "Dance is your pulse, your heartbeat, your breathing. It's the rhythm of > your life. It's the expression in time and movement, in happiness, joy, > sadness and envy." > > "Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like no one's watching" > > "I am married to music ~ Addicted to bass ~ I belong to the rhythm ~ The > dance floor's my place.." > > > > --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Jimbo wrote: > > From: Jimbo > Subject: RE: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? > To: "'J.C.'" , "'sfraves'" > > Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:06 PM > > There is a Spambulance in route sir > > -----Original Message----- > From: J.C. [mailto:dougm@kzsu.stanford.edu] > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:03 PM > To: sfraves > Subject: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? > > Anyone heard of this person? I just got spammed. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > --00504502b672597ca1047dc9e7f2-- From sfraves-return-151817-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Jan 23 00:27:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 45182 invoked by uid 1103); 23 Jan 2010 00:27:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 45164 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2010 00:27:18 -0000 References: <000301ca9baf$34e9f390$9ebddab0$@com> <741478.47308.qm@web113201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <5c23c6721001221620n1d2cafe8he629bef2b127a977@mail.gmail.com> To: prayformojo524@gmail.com, eesiad1@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:26:39 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.146.68.167 In-Reply-To: <5c23c6721001221620n1d2cafe8he629bef2b127a977@mail.gmail.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: djhil2sf@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CC69D9DDA3A991_334C_B0FD_webmail-d089.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 30462-STANDARD Cc: dougm@kzsu.stanford.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org, jimip@berkeleyrecords.com Message-Id: <8CC69D9DD9C856E-334C-5723@webmail-d089.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: DjHil2SF@aol.com Subject: Re: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? ----------MB_8CC69D9DDA3A991_334C_B0FD_webmail-d089.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" She is really cool! She is eager to play out some more so, she may think= that promoting herself in multiple ways will help her out in getting gigs= . =20 =20 hil. =20 -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Johnson To: Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat Cc: J.C. ; sfraves ; jimip= @berkeleyrecords.com Sent: Fri, Jan 22, 2010 4:20 pm Subject: Re: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? she's a really good dj too. hope she's not engaging in obnoxious promotio= n practices, though it would surprise me if she's doing it on purpose (havin= g met her a couple times). On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat wrote: > she's an awesome person...i know she was trying to use a new email servi= ce > that she was referred to, i'm hoping thats not what it is..lemme know an= d > i'll let her know... > > -adriana > > "Dance is your pulse, your heartbeat, your breathing. It's the rhythm of > your life. It's the expression in time and movement, in happiness, joy, > sadness and envy." > > "Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like no one's watching" > > "I am married to music ~ Addicted to bass ~ I belong to the rhythm ~ The > dance floor's my place.." > > > > --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Jimbo wrote: > > From: Jimbo > Subject: RE: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? > To: "'J.C.'" , "'sfraves'" > > Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:06 PM > > There is a Spambulance in route sir > > -----Original Message----- > From: J.C. [mailto:dougm@kzsu.stanford.edu] > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:03 PM > To: sfraves > Subject: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? > > Anyone heard of this person? I just got spammed. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > =20 ----------MB_8CC69D9DDA3A991_334C_B0FD_webmail-d089.sysops.aol.com-- From sfraves-return-151818-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Jan 23 00:41:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 55250 invoked by uid 1103); 23 Jan 2010 00:41:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 55223 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2010 00:41:51 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1264207310; bh=RzePriw9we1Iq6roGEoakVzUJr1fBE6kFXLY2WK9z6Y=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=32b0CoCEQWUvk/O3IUqPRXZCB+1Y00UDOAgqMVBTllTqNF72xwVPhvS7+edMrBXUlLqO1lGVuKTI7ZE+tgeru8DGxTsc676b5nUX8pB/11zTvJQYdCdy5PUhd0vl5a4FNm3+SAcVTyRUhl08s7x/xOuPPgjmWxhn13f9WC1+DxE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Y3weZW8LfBAQYCzjTHZCUorKLZXzESEcDTpEffEHwFWFq5sJVqAYBIYHbCx64z8cF1cyXfw4looxhSMb+WQzs9TpKVHn0kJhdTbmHY4F/W3q7e7N4klWK3/lKmiDqUxStAKoYLJ3ipLna+W4v22dCORrvD+NnrJEoLK9gAz9BPA=; Message-ID: <274522.67728.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: i8b3ftgVM1nBpFYfVs3fqhn2oIudpE7GmcVX6_ZXXZKvidU.5BR2r.YFcKMeL1xTvwkp2wcNqi7joIvJYOkF1Gm.OHeyhheRERlojA5Q7H5NJWZJ3nGTe_.owwseBnb_XuYO8RRYHNSe7CdkkmLafMIrxeRQ3H_OtDmpT2sYTXiFjoPyvwi2O3sfgytT2q1hDPf98qwlS_pSm43rS0k9ffF5YNNy28jz9MxZmyyFoWY81OfHMv_uU_FLwnbNlROvaXiquuvE2z2gmrEAOWOmsAwHgoy3bo7wNtRd0CZyijCXffUCNkrux9f4WfTjRCvPCi8g6TtRLmFpAt2_Vw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/272.7 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:41:50 -0800 (PST) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: "J.C." , sfraves In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? I never get any good spam. ----- Original Message ---- From: J.C. To: sfraves Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 2:02:34 PM Subject: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? Anyone heard of this person? I just got spammed. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151819-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Jan 23 00:51:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 64111 invoked by uid 1103); 23 Jan 2010 00:51:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 64094 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2010 00:51:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5c23c6721001221620n1d2cafe8he629bef2b127a977@mail.gmail.com> References: <000301ca9baf$34e9f390$9ebddab0$@com> <741478.47308.qm@web113201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <5c23c6721001221620n1d2cafe8he629bef2b127a977@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:51:46 -0800 Message-ID: From: "J.C." To: Matthew Johnson Cc: Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat , sfraves , jimip@berkeleyrecords.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? Seems she submitted the contents of her addressbook (or more?) to a google group she created for promotion. I was in that address book via contact with her 2 days ago regarding a completely non rave/music related matter. On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Matthew Johnson wrote: > she's a really good dj too.=A0 hope she's not engaging in obnoxious promo= tion > practices, though it would surprise me if she's doing it on purpose (havi= ng > met her a couple times). > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat > wrote: >> >> she's an awesome person...i know she was trying to use a new email servi= ce >> that she was referred to, i'm hoping thats not what it is..lemme know an= d >> i'll let her know... >> >> -adriana >> >> "Dance is your pulse, your heartbeat, your breathing. It's the rhythm of >> your life. It's the expression in time and movement, in happiness, joy, >> sadness and envy." >> >> "Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like no one's watching" >> >> "I am married to music ~ Addicted to bass ~ I belong to the rhythm ~ The >> dance floor's my place.." >> >> >> >> --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Jimbo wrote: >> >> From: Jimbo >> Subject: RE: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? >> To: "'J.C.'" , "'sfraves'" >> >> Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:06 PM >> >> There is a Spambulance in route sir >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: J.C. [mailto:dougm@kzsu.stanford.edu] >> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:03 PM >> To: sfraves >> Subject: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? >> >> Anyone heard of this person?=A0 I just got spammed. >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151820-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Jan 23 00:52:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 65911 invoked by uid 1103); 23 Jan 2010 00:52:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 65894 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2010 00:52:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CC69D9DD9C856E-334C-5723@webmail-d089.sysops.aol.com> References: <000301ca9baf$34e9f390$9ebddab0$@com> <741478.47308.qm@web113201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <5c23c6721001221620n1d2cafe8he629bef2b127a977@mail.gmail.com> <8CC69D9DD9C856E-334C-5723@webmail-d089.sysops.aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:52:47 -0800 Message-ID: From: "J.C." To: "djhil2sf@aol.com" Cc: prayformojo524@gmail.com, eesiad1@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, jimip@berkeleyrecords.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? On 1/22/10, djhil2sf@aol.com wrote: > She is really cool! She is eager to play out some more so, she may think > that promoting herself in multiple ways will help her out in getting gigs. > Just like DJ Seven?? > > > hil. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151821-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Jan 23 00:52:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 66377 invoked by uid 1103); 23 Jan 2010 00:52:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 66236 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2010 00:52:50 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=lf6NqLzjdC35t9IcBKONt5cyUR8Pfa8LRaJ6wmdW7uI=; b=E052IK4QeX+YwjBGjz69rzBEAt13FAS0ga4OIdVuqbhLHmyCJCL7d2zJIfpt8MGZbg pRWdGq5KY0fKCLgjatLe4Ep2C+uGt+g3A8nPdfNWM3KoHc6nJIXas1V0ua8JnK+YXf8b G6nXP0D9bmN89/tpRRFgYqwbDnW1cInqurFN8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=vNXgWVURhNKHYSY5/CaUDnoDczS3BYCFrrt4Byt4M+55oWB4RejY6Htz51sCDzlsbw EnwDQQXBRuqez57OULTVYiY/uxD5X4IiaGBZ0YXjZMSmWxxPJR769qdAPvi6K06BJWsi 7gC16tgA7nGS91ODamAtWtVLR+MHNaQM8q8mI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <000301ca9baf$34e9f390$9ebddab0$@com> <741478.47308.qm@web113201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <5c23c6721001221620n1d2cafe8he629bef2b127a977@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:52:48 -0800 Message-ID: From: Matt Stone To: "J.C." Cc: Matthew Johnson , Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat , sfraves , jimip@berkeleyrecords.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6470594e7c764047dca5a55 Subject: Re: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? --0016e6470594e7c764047dca5a55 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Fail :( On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:51 PM, J.C. wrote: > Seems she submitted the contents of her addressbook (or more?) to a > google group she created for promotion. I was in that address book > via contact with her 2 days ago regarding a completely non rave/music > related matter. > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Matthew Johnson > wrote: > > she's a really good dj too. hope she's not engaging in obnoxious > promotion > > practices, though it would surprise me if she's doing it on purpose > (having > > met her a couple times). > > > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat > > wrote: > >> > >> she's an awesome person...i know she was trying to use a new email > service > >> that she was referred to, i'm hoping thats not what it is..lemme know > and > >> i'll let her know... > >> > >> -adriana > >> > >> "Dance is your pulse, your heartbeat, your breathing. It's the rhythm of > >> your life. It's the expression in time and movement, in happiness, joy, > >> sadness and envy." > >> > >> "Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like no one's watching" > >> > >> "I am married to music ~ Addicted to bass ~ I belong to the rhythm ~ The > >> dance floor's my place.." > >> > >> > >> > >> --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Jimbo wrote: > >> > >> From: Jimbo > >> Subject: RE: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? > >> To: "'J.C.'" , "'sfraves'" > >> > >> Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:06 PM > >> > >> There is a Spambulance in route sir > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: J.C. [mailto:dougm@kzsu.stanford.edu] > >> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:03 PM > >> To: sfraves > >> Subject: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? > >> > >> Anyone heard of this person? I just got spammed. > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --0016e6470594e7c764047dca5a55-- From sfraves-return-151822-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Jan 23 03:01:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 31059 invoked by uid 1103); 23 Jan 2010 03:01:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 31040 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2010 03:01:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1264215692; bh=EneH9LnHfw2hlY0SWxBEPXJ1nnGpxO6mkxhiY0/Ve9s=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kH2JmxC+XkNm8iSjaJVkVMauAHhou6JRqiw2v4pBzUg6X9r83NuNclO05VXRC33JPmxS0s+CXordYrzDI4yRhUpimbu6BD1NvopVeJ9lDYFbbuEKWOlxeXS2DWEVaJgtRdqQJpl7trklwAcw1JPiMq6y5Bhvue1YuemcGPgn99E= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VwJqWtDkLXk3XbPe6IyGLmmc4ckd9Di1HJYs6gbTU/22pRh65NpfDZSPdCoTCkHxYAE/ObueGq3tkvXBNm+63DckrxlovI1Wc7yw7hPwR3WO4jTXOeOs81e0kDotVKsAORITx71TKbL5JQO5AxGIiBxXabCMpJNK9o4Q0XcviGc=; Message-ID: <645389.35240.qm@web50001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: X3FIcLEVM1mC2au9svIElDfGggo06FHXKxZxQtH4l2aS7n6wZLRQ61te8PS5.H_YNy6TTOzyw6b294sHvI0sg6eClGB0OxHDqGPRXSSlrsAXhZCI2RtzshSPGg6X4Vba4xgbPYl.7OuC5onUxfNoa.wEeGxKqzGAZYIe8NkB.JhW8NMlnkay.JZNpCGCUguuX4kKeVfHH3tiSQmhJ3Q74nArVkbWrHmrEz.iBuNYuLpmv48Zv9FBNSLlBGdU469RGOKaw2CwoFn7.3hr9GsNRHjERaHhE4_YqUDI5umTfk22TW18bXcL25fwml9d795ktBjKF5PtZiixt.r_7w-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/272.7 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <000301ca9baf$34e9f390$9ebddab0$@com> <741478.47308.qm@web113201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <5c23c6721001221620n1d2cafe8he629bef2b127a977@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:01:32 -0800 (PST) From: michael the redstickman To: "J.C." , Matthew Johnson Cc: Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat , sfraves , jimip@berkeleyrecords.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? I don't believe anyone was automatically added to her e-mail list. There was only a link to opt-in. Therefore, just ignore the e-mail if you're not interested in her list. m ----- Original Message ---- From: J.C. To: Matthew Johnson Cc: Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat ; sfraves ; jimip@berkeleyrecords.com Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 4:51:46 PM Subject: Re: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? Seems she submitted the contents of her addressbook (or more?) to a google group she created for promotion. I was in that address book via contact with her 2 days ago regarding a completely non rave/music related matter. On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Matthew Johnson wrote: > she's a really good dj too. hope she's not engaging in obnoxious promotion > practices, though it would surprise me if she's doing it on purpose (having > met her a couple times). > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat > wrote: >> >> she's an awesome person...i know she was trying to use a new email service >> that she was referred to, i'm hoping thats not what it is..lemme know and >> i'll let her know... >> >> -adriana >> >> "Dance is your pulse, your heartbeat, your breathing. It's the rhythm of >> your life. It's the expression in time and movement, in happiness, joy, >> sadness and envy." >> >> "Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like no one's watching" >> >> "I am married to music ~ Addicted to bass ~ I belong to the rhythm ~ The >> dance floor's my place.." >> >> >> >> --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Jimbo wrote: >> >> From: Jimbo >> Subject: RE: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? >> To: "'J.C.'" , "'sfraves'" >> >> Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:06 PM >> >> There is a Spambulance in route sir >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: J.C. [mailto:dougm@kzsu.stanford.edu] >> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:03 PM >> To: sfraves >> Subject: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? >> >> Anyone heard of this person? I just got spammed. >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151823-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Jan 23 04:30:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 69915 invoked by uid 1103); 23 Jan 2010 04:30:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 69897 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2010 04:30:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <645389.35240.qm@web50001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <000301ca9baf$34e9f390$9ebddab0$@com> <741478.47308.qm@web113201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <5c23c6721001221620n1d2cafe8he629bef2b127a977@mail.gmail.com> <645389.35240.qm@web50001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 20:30:08 -0800 Message-ID: From: "J.C." To: sfraves Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? As I stated in an earlier email, my ONLY interaction was on a completely unrelated sphere (the San Francisco Freecycle List, where she was interested in a printer I was giving away, in case people were interested.) Never seen her perform. Never interacted with her other than that. All in all, I consider that a spamming kind of interaction. On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 7:01 PM, michael the redstickman wrote: > I don't believe anyone was automatically added to her e-mail list. =A0The= re was only a link to opt-in. > > Therefore, just ignore the e-mail if you're not interested in her list. > > m > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: J.C. > To: Matthew Johnson > Cc: Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat ; sfraves ; jimip@berkeleyrecords.com > Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 4:51:46 PM > Subject: Re: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? > > Seems she submitted the contents of her addressbook (or more?) to a > google group she created for promotion. =A0I was in that address book > via contact with her 2 days ago regarding a completely non rave/music > related matter. > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Matthew Johnson > wrote: >> she's a really good dj too. =A0hope she's not engaging in obnoxious prom= otion >> practices, though it would surprise me if she's doing it on purpose (hav= ing >> met her a couple times). >> >> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat >> wrote: >>> >>> she's an awesome person...i know she was trying to use a new email serv= ice >>> that she was referred to, i'm hoping thats not what it is..lemme know a= nd >>> i'll let her know... >>> >>> -adriana >>> >>> "Dance is your pulse, your heartbeat, your breathing. It's the rhythm o= f >>> your life. It's the expression in time and movement, in happiness, joy, >>> sadness and envy." >>> >>> "Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like no one's watching" >>> >>> "I am married to music ~ Addicted to bass ~ I belong to the rhythm ~ Th= e >>> dance floor's my place.." >>> >>> >>> >>> --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Jimbo wrote: >>> >>> From: Jimbo >>> Subject: RE: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? >>> To: "'J.C.'" , "'sfraves'" >>> >>> Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:06 PM >>> >>> There is a Spambulance in route sir >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: J.C. [mailto:dougm@kzsu.stanford.edu] >>> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:03 PM >>> To: sfraves >>> Subject: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? >>> >>> Anyone heard of this person? =A0I just got spammed. >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151824-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Jan 23 04:35:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 73004 invoked by uid 1103); 23 Jan 2010 04:35:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 72988 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2010 04:35:54 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1264221352; bh=RsQMk/HJ/pMHPDCqr6RT6z9BEKoYB2eMfjBY1Sjj7BA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1YoF9A9/v0UQ6RSotp2cawrXnCyJkFHKISF6Zz7jtkNPYa7MH+QJJYIMcgwsZuNHN3GSEeE2hbi7pizlpLmiffulxJ4XyQBRwUhQtqov3Sy2qhZOiIyWKKO5tBWy80AVdaOh81ZJlbY5QKQUboNPpKynQlXiLZURPXi4T2N5RQ8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wIg4R69NwNA+ARwO519ZTigwgabHaxBQVAkBvk69CU42d28m33SxhjvMLZXLarASLF9Gx0gBMuvIvGq5ytEwSORBKy4AeXP+wzXk4CmdXEkhnblEsN4sdry+hKx7TxF56tkKMwZhpbEsmAFaZyM4ZhisJD87w2tlq+W3eF9kxdk=; Message-ID: <873518.63749.qm@web50004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: gWSqXsYVM1kwJ84zz7DDNARgOuPTrrpRdRz.Rb_1H2fMxrIcG0UK9A_Af2mlFh6FCYS5UJzJ3vskl4.uKsUgQ.mxOxl11wMH7CdWdQgzXFdP4.tSUyIRyzmEy_S79EhTXF5I8pysSg3Kvf5Q.fQE9UmjtL0fEM2LRDoTGOw_iy79CK85aysN_QJnjHZY76hMTkr7lEB1fIkWDx69SEAYV09Y8SCfkoqfMivUIOwnGoAh3UaIpa87Oa0DSlsMnIoK1ChadWWlvyIrLVr1oUe7kEcfxVEJsjDzPMHF2YQR78QE_pL9qRq8ZQpf3iVMNDjHMR1Yqkhm6GOA2FMG3NOSsxhgdOriEmfPVw8Dqg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 20:35:52 -0800 (PST) From: Red Stickman To: "J.C." Cc: sfraves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? Maybe she thinks you're cute. Sent from my stupid phone On Jan 22, 2010, at 8:30 PM, "J.C." wrote: As I stated in an earlier email, my ONLY interaction was on a completely unrelated sphere (the San Francisco Freecycle List, where she was interested in a printer I was giving away, in case people were interested.) Never seen her perform. Never interacted with her other than that. All in all, I consider that a spamming kind of interaction. On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 7:01 PM, michael the redstickman wrote: I don't believe anyone was automatically added to her e-mail list. There was only a link to opt-in. Therefore, just ignore the e-mail if you're not interested in her list. m ----- Original Message ---- From: J.C. To: Matthew Johnson Cc: Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat ; sfraves ; jimip@berkeleyrecords.com Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 4:51:46 PM Subject: Re: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? Seems she submitted the contents of her addressbook (or more?) to a google group she created for promotion. I was in that address book via contact with her 2 days ago regarding a completely non rave/music related matter. On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Matthew Johnson wrote: she's a really good dj too. hope she's not engaging in obnoxious promotion practices, though it would surprise me if she's doing it on purpose (having met her a couple times). On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat wrote: she's an awesome person...i know she was trying to use a new email service that she was referred to, i'm hoping thats not what it is..lemme know and i'll let her know... -adriana "Dance is your pulse, your heartbeat, your breathing. It's the rhythm of your life. It's the expression in time and movement, in happiness, joy, sadness and envy." "Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like no one's watching" "I am married to music ~ Addicted to bass ~ I belong to the rhythm ~ The dance floor's my place.." --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Jimbo wrote: From: Jimbo Subject: RE: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? To: "'J.C.'" , "'sfraves'" Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:06 PM There is a Spambulance in route sir -----Original Message----- From: J.C. [mailto:dougm@kzsu.stanford.edu] Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:03 PM To: sfraves Subject: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? Anyone heard of this person? I just got spammed. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151825-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Jan 23 07:44:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 67943 invoked by uid 1103); 23 Jan 2010 07:44:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 67896 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2010 07:44:14 -0000 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unwiredltd.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: orotoro In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 23:44:09 -0800 Cc: sfraves Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2B9A0440-2802-41FB-AEA7-F7A52345F8BB@technoprisoners.org> References: <000301ca9baf$34e9f390$9ebddab0$@com> <741478.47308.qm@web113201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <5c23c6721001221620n1d2cafe8he629bef2b127a977@mail.gmail.com> <645389.35240.qm@web50001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> To: J.C. X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Subject: Re: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? BURN THE WITCH!=20 On Jan 22, 2010, at 8:30 PM, J.C. wrote: > As I stated in an earlier email, my ONLY interaction was on a > completely unrelated sphere (the San Francisco Freecycle List, where > she was interested in a printer I was giving away, in case people were > interested.) Never seen her perform. Never interacted with her other > than that. All in all, I consider that a spamming kind of > interaction. >=20 > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 7:01 PM, michael the redstickman > wrote: >> I don't believe anyone was automatically added to her e-mail list. = There was only a link to opt-in. >>=20 >> Therefore, just ignore the e-mail if you're not interested in her = list. >>=20 >> m >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: J.C. >> To: Matthew Johnson >> Cc: Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat ; sfraves = ; jimip@berkeleyrecords.com >> Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 4:51:46 PM >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? >>=20 >> Seems she submitted the contents of her addressbook (or more?) to a >> google group she created for promotion. I was in that address book >> via contact with her 2 days ago regarding a completely non rave/music >> related matter. >>=20 >> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Matthew Johnson >> wrote: >>> she's a really good dj too. hope she's not engaging in obnoxious = promotion >>> practices, though it would surprise me if she's doing it on purpose = (having >>> met her a couple times). >>>=20 >>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat >>> wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> she's an awesome person...i know she was trying to use a new email = service >>>> that she was referred to, i'm hoping thats not what it is..lemme = know and >>>> i'll let her know... >>>>=20 >>>> -adriana >>>>=20 >>>> "Dance is your pulse, your heartbeat, your breathing. It's the = rhythm of >>>> your life. It's the expression in time and movement, in happiness, = joy, >>>> sadness and envy." >>>>=20 >>>> "Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like no one's watching" >>>>=20 >>>> "I am married to music ~ Addicted to bass ~ I belong to the rhythm = ~ The >>>> dance floor's my place.." >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Jimbo wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> From: Jimbo >>>> Subject: RE: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? >>>> To: "'J.C.'" , "'sfraves'" >>>> >>>> Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:06 PM >>>>=20 >>>> There is a Spambulance in route sir >>>>=20 >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: J.C. [mailto:dougm@kzsu.stanford.edu] >>>> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:03 PM >>>> To: sfraves >>>> Subject: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? >>>>=20 >>>> Anyone heard of this person? I just got spammed. >>>>=20 >>>> = --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> = --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >=20 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151826-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Jan 23 09:52:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 49120 invoked by uid 1103); 23 Jan 2010 09:52:15 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 48888 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2010 09:52:10 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1264240329; bh=FQwrG28bQozqfS1GSwp//ZgBeHUctPb+PZAHvL0eFYg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dJSxjYqv0C+WeUyudHRkhL/vZXrT96xS6xVYbBm/CYUnSg3kXNm833yCaCzVEk/2bd52ukIZsEH59fahzzlcY9VAzNyJV3fJx13R4/cqw55HeooGe9JdF8WxxcmXmGNdMMYfCbmVKGTnveVdrotvlEuZUuj86ikGWzvY2s602xw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4HYaAgPgPqVLhit1/bDFmG+zg7lAVFMP95NbNDKiSM976G4BhH3VhSSRDMfstBl5jekv8WbhnrSfku9pLMPFGUjcT+AwXxmFcaGVosRa3X0c6sym739CkryFvo4CkOgK4z2CGa0sXDGvSvxsmi8akUp0oFYLSZbBBIRVZkJRjeU=; Message-ID: <106218.11461.qm@web50001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: xH6bRi8VM1liI1sRE20xq0pvvb3qNAk_u7YkOfX.ON00UF3FdsTiey1NwzrftvNplQ2WaLNMx.MEDYUVoyCcY9gEVQ6i5FGCtU8FTr4p55rx1w3.BQFlr4ef1TWs.RQEBsJDSVAq0vwavTjfrARVXY_gKMm6iKzIsu.mY9_WniuW6SNUPLsxFkp311vhjdeCiq8v.hXw2yyzGhNl4CCuAGPdibKLSvqaRXddxB8DGTAvBuQoo_z8.qjz7PFTI8I3ZxXilwaNlfPaHbDsJH9DJ93ohojdYMEADXqkLeJTTOw3K7VPSymH5E8jl12bMMrXRnYRbNL6R9lIIfw2nQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/272.7 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <000301ca9baf$34e9f390$9ebddab0$@com> <741478.47308.qm@web113201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <5c23c6721001221620n1d2cafe8he629bef2b127a977@mail.gmail.com> <645389.35240.qm@web50001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <2B9A0440-2802-41FB-AEA7-F7A52345F8BB@technoprisoners.org> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 01:52:08 -0800 (PST) From: michael the redstickman To: orotoro , "J.C." Cc: sfraves In-Reply-To: <2B9A0440-2802-41FB-AEA7-F7A52345F8BB@technoprisoners.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? because she thinks JC is cute? ----- Original Message ---- From: orotoro To: J.C. Cc: sfraves Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 11:44:09 PM Subject: Re: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? BURN THE WITCH! On Jan 22, 2010, at 8:30 PM, J.C. wrote: > As I stated in an earlier email, my ONLY interaction was on a > completely unrelated sphere (the San Francisco Freecycle List, where > she was interested in a printer I was giving away, in case people were > interested.) Never seen her perform. Never interacted with her other > than that. All in all, I consider that a spamming kind of > interaction. > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 7:01 PM, michael the redstickman > wrote: >> I don't believe anyone was automatically added to her e-mail list. There was only a link to opt-in. >> >> Therefore, just ignore the e-mail if you're not interested in her list. >> >> m >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: J.C. >> To: Matthew Johnson >> Cc: Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat ; sfraves ; jimip@berkeleyrecords.com >> Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 4:51:46 PM >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? >> >> Seems she submitted the contents of her addressbook (or more?) to a >> google group she created for promotion. I was in that address book >> via contact with her 2 days ago regarding a completely non rave/music >> related matter. >> >> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Matthew Johnson >> wrote: >>> she's a really good dj too. hope she's not engaging in obnoxious promotion >>> practices, though it would surprise me if she's doing it on purpose (having >>> met her a couple times). >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> she's an awesome person...i know she was trying to use a new email service >>>> that she was referred to, i'm hoping thats not what it is..lemme know and >>>> i'll let her know... >>>> >>>> -adriana >>>> >>>> "Dance is your pulse, your heartbeat, your breathing. It's the rhythm of >>>> your life. It's the expression in time and movement, in happiness, joy, >>>> sadness and envy." >>>> >>>> "Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like no one's watching" >>>> >>>> "I am married to music ~ Addicted to bass ~ I belong to the rhythm ~ The >>>> dance floor's my place.." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Jimbo wrote: >>>> >>>> From: Jimbo >>>> Subject: RE: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? >>>> To: "'J.C.'" , "'sfraves'" >>>> >>>> Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:06 PM >>>> >>>> There is a Spambulance in route sir >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: J.C. [mailto:dougm@kzsu.stanford.edu] >>>> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:03 PM >>>> To: sfraves >>>> Subject: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? >>>> >>>> Anyone heard of this person? I just got spammed. >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151827-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Jan 23 19:38:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81406 invoked by uid 1103); 23 Jan 2010 19:38:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81338 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2010 19:38:46 -0000 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unwiredltd.com Cc: "J.C." , sfraves Message-Id: <4FDFE5B7-E336-453C-9CE9-FBB24323BA79@technoprisoners.org> From: orotoro To: michael the redstickman In-Reply-To: <106218.11461.qm@web50001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=cp932; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7D11) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 11:36:49 -0800 References: <000301ca9baf$34e9f390$9ebddab0$@com> <741478.47308.qm@web113201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <5c23c6721001221620n1d2cafe8he629bef2b127a977@mail.gmail.com> <645389.35240.qm@web50001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <2B9A0440-2802-41FB-AEA7-F7A52345F8BB@technoprisoners.org> <106218.11461.qm@web50001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7D11) Subject: Re: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? I saw her with goody proctor and the devil! plotting to spam they were! i thought this were a witch hunt. where are ye pitchforks? =F0J '0ro+or0' =F6=DC On Jan 23, 2010, at 1:52, michael the redstickman = wrote: > because she thinks JC is cute? > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: orotoro > To: J.C. > Cc: sfraves > Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 11:44:09 PM > Subject: Re: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? > > BURN THE WITCH! > > On Jan 22, 2010, at 8:30 PM, J.C. wrote: > >> As I stated in an earlier email, my ONLY interaction was on a >> completely unrelated sphere (the San Francisco Freecycle List, where >> she was interested in a printer I was giving away, in case people =20 >> were >> interested.) Never seen her perform. Never interacted with her =20 >> other >> than that. All in all, I consider that a spamming kind of >> interaction. >> >> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 7:01 PM, michael the redstickman >> wrote: >>> I don't believe anyone was automatically added to her e-mail =20 >>> list. There was only a link to opt-in. >>> >>> Therefore, just ignore the e-mail if you're not interested in her =20= >>> list. >>> >>> m >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ---- >>> From: J.C. >>> To: Matthew Johnson >>> Cc: Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat ; sfraves = >> >; jimip@berkeleyrecords.com >>> Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 4:51:46 PM >>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? >>> >>> Seems she submitted the contents of her addressbook (or more?) to a >>> google group she created for promotion. I was in that address book >>> via contact with her 2 days ago regarding a completely non rave/=20 >>> music >>> related matter. >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Matthew Johnson >>> wrote: >>>> she's a really good dj too. hope she's not engaging in obnoxious =20= >>>> promotion >>>> practices, though it would surprise me if she's doing it on =20 >>>> purpose (having >>>> met her a couple times). >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> she's an awesome person...i know she was trying to use a new =20 >>>>> email service >>>>> that she was referred to, i'm hoping thats not what it is..lemme =20= >>>>> know and >>>>> i'll let her know... >>>>> >>>>> -adriana >>>>> >>>>> "Dance is your pulse, your heartbeat, your breathing. It's the =20 >>>>> rhythm of >>>>> your life. It's the expression in time and movement, in =20 >>>>> happiness, joy, >>>>> sadness and envy." >>>>> >>>>> "Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like no one's watching" >>>>> >>>>> "I am married to music ~ Addicted to bass ~ I belong to the =20 >>>>> rhythm ~ The >>>>> dance floor's my place.." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Jimbo wrote: >>>>> >>>>> From: Jimbo >>>>> Subject: RE: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? >>>>> To: "'J.C.'" , "'sfraves'" >>>>> >>>>> Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:06 PM >>>>> >>>>> There is a Spambulance in route sir >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: J.C. [mailto:dougm@kzsu.stanford.edu] >>>>> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:03 PM >>>>> To: sfraves >>>>> Subject: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? >>>>> >>>>> Anyone heard of this person? I just got spammed. >>>>> >>>>> ---=20 >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---=20 >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> ---=20 >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151828-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Jan 23 19:43:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 85000 invoked by uid 1103); 23 Jan 2010 19:43:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 84981 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2010 19:43:18 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=+KOQokx8kVxH4UbirHkE/N4o4k7pl6ItiLiNxMQdb6g=; b=hDNbXb/tVOR950nqbAfKFJDvdxLrkQbx61FuAgdtomo+4Q10RfuRtr+MJHacGYlyuz xXMwD3zj6go4Y3ipqR6gNhHNB1/gFFoan7+RMvgAwPHwt/MB2jFMH7W0fL8HmOQr2Z6m j+U2rgclLv/7wGhWcbkfJXJfXbqj7hQELfnRI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=SJ335fTe8dSCT3iPVCfLKDkbs9ub5M93iKih9xTx27YYJ+S/FPSgXzlQblf1usXlIp GQgPm//ejYGm55lH8jg78pkfcEJ4OFVzMYLFbPdrbmy7COlStG+6CZyF6KclHGE8GRcP Ln7qVhFzh9nOMLNKQqPo1i4W5ihqcZVn6CMXg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4FDFE5B7-E336-453C-9CE9-FBB24323BA79@technoprisoners.org> References: <000301ca9baf$34e9f390$9ebddab0$@com> <741478.47308.qm@web113201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <5c23c6721001221620n1d2cafe8he629bef2b127a977@mail.gmail.com> <645389.35240.qm@web50001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <2B9A0440-2802-41FB-AEA7-F7A52345F8BB@technoprisoners.org> <106218.11461.qm@web50001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4FDFE5B7-E336-453C-9CE9-FBB24323BA79@technoprisoners.org> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 11:43:16 -0800 Message-ID: <2b851b331001231143w56e689f4j68b40e6f764d3d20@mail.gmail.com> From: sean ocean To: orotoro Cc: michael the redstickman , sfraves , "J.C." Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000feaf10aa4c86a63047dda2562 Subject: Re: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? --000feaf10aa4c86a63047dda2562 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Let's sew on a big red letter s on her shirt. On Jan 23, 2010 11:38 AM, "orotoro" wrote: I saw her with goody proctor and the devil! plotting to spam they were! i thought this were a witch hunt. where are ye pitchforks? =EE=80=8A '0ro+or0' =EE=94=83 On Jan 23, 2010, at 1:52, michael the redstickman wrote: > because she t... --000feaf10aa4c86a63047dda2562-- From sfraves-return-151829-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 27 03:42:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 68840 invoked by uid 1103); 27 Jan 2010 03:42:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 68810 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2010 03:42:46 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1264563765; bh=2yCSVuE1+Tmiv3GPzsuPopEitOFf1MpqInuVPDeaIcc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bOQ3zWMlJgjcRExGtcNy26x8GBHRucwNSujpkdkkiH3PrU+yCZKhI4btlFU+CiYByQpM78ZfPSTzj6KWPSctXaDEDDc6VRkzWzZWR+7SD9q01kK3213M/GuG2J59ITwAYfFXzkj4XMSi+h31zWUjhiwoJTNmmN4ViWaUz3Z+FGQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Z9GuPiprm4q1A9aRyJoIRGr8UUuDaCasCG1xv3xhKasutzh9uKQ1bWVKjnQfMankoFy5QYav/b3tYOzLwiAO/Bcz4iycofsrJNMw/mJ66QmjagaXK3csZqJyjn5EE4/hU6yHWzLpbLhM+/O7+fBVwe1fmJARflFEskZ7yb8c7fY=; Message-ID: <549598.18700.qm@web110216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: m9Yg2tYVM1kzRUEr7s3aTtbCSpAnLDMwbQBN2B7W_lZ58U75J.GIlCMvMfFqd24H9S1lXv5QwReREhtaSLqspbIPwDe096XyoyCnK6fhqY5xPsOgXbh4WsonCD69HA_knh74oRBu5Q.yOEFsV6lN3DrOYjJOS5G7lDZG00B0lCLcH5DgH1QcmrVgBNMe2YC.XL.6AsrEYgC7ZiaRR.VskSNDcrkFgRWNTuZvTMHyUQy0IrKMCFoh9UX9ccWMgS7ZmENJJL5BvFH_so8Vl_1gY1Obkp5dStESd6gX_fsEEHRra7ESCi8jUqhSZTgwzpfXVO9ZIBsOb3qLMc.n53v0g.0ZJuA48B8rrcfQv.twhw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.1.10 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:42:45 -0800 (PST) From: mo corleone To: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1985187707-1264563765=:18700" Subject: Re: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? --0-1985187707-1264563765=:18700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable she's new :) just ask her to remove you and i'm sure she'll take care of it= . *bliss does not require ignorance* --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Matt Stone wrote: From: Matt Stone Subject: Re: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? To: "J.C." Cc: "Matthew Johnson" , "Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat= " , "sfraves" , jimip@berkeleyrec= ords.com Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 6:52 PM Fail :( On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:51 PM, J.C. wrote: > Seems she submitted the contents of her addressbook (or more?) to a > google group she created for promotion.=A0 I was in that address book > via contact with her 2 days ago regarding a completely non rave/music > related matter. > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Matthew Johnson > wrote: > > she's a really good dj too.=A0 hope she's not engaging in obnoxious > promotion > > practices, though it would surprise me if she's doing it on purpose > (having > > met her a couple times). > > > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat > > wrote: > >> > >> she's an awesome person...i know she was trying to use a new email > service > >> that she was referred to, i'm hoping thats not what it is..lemme know > and > >> i'll let her know... > >> > >> -adriana > >> > >> "Dance is your pulse, your heartbeat, your breathing. It's the rhythm = of > >> your life. It's the expression in time and movement, in happiness, joy= , > >> sadness and envy." > >> > >> "Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like no one's watching" > >> > >> "I am married to music ~ Addicted to bass ~ I belong to the rhythm ~ T= he > >> dance floor's my place.." > >> > >> > >> > >> --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Jimbo wrote: > >> > >> From: Jimbo > >> Subject: RE: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? > >> To: "'J.C.'" , "'sfraves'" > >> > >> Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:06 PM > >> > >> There is a Spambulance in route sir > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: J.C. [mailto:dougm@kzsu.stanford.edu] > >> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:03 PM > >> To: sfraves > >> Subject: [sfraves] DJ Whiskey Devil??? > >> > >> Anyone heard of this person?=A0 I just got spammed. > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > =0A=0A=0A --0-1985187707-1264563765=:18700-- From sfraves-return-151830-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 28 08:43:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23265 invoked by uid 1103); 28 Jan 2010 08:42:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23231 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2010 08:42:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hV9hw256ARmpCl5FgpdIrpL0gnAk8hMuUTNxvinwwEY=; b=MO4lwHMD4Dq++JDV+cvx4gf6yVZcRc8Yd2l70gvr+DKL3jdgt3R3RPKyjVEOortCIg UJdKTMoPL0+b11xKxxBQx/tTJMc7gObXsf7P+Ikqh/Y8pqH3fQUe0ga04QwAC/Up4eEi lXQpm2L1CIlPK9lnJzZVhMmKp5hUYCK/FeGKw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=i4WHFOAsnbb1yUJaibUV83NUi6Au64vxbNSCiaM3a7fWqX1Qcqu3SedBMKKXfXMBSt 4P7Xg3A8c2YkfMJm2kqaauYfypkXx5/TtutpwoLjNBFI40Ztwkdb6wQwXa++IzURIHNl M42eXOwSSEZ51uR8lKk8koE6yrFew9MxCWvmY= Message-ID: <4B614E03.7020602@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 00:42:43 -0800 From: Sean Ocean User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: defsf-announce@defsf.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [sfraves] BSP: Radio Integrated 1-29-10 9pm-2am PST Just a reminder, We're going to be having another Radio Integrated broadcast Feat. HAPTIC SYNAPSES from DoBoX recordings and we're going to kick off the night with ALIXR from the land of cool techno DJs Listen live via the Web: 9pm-2ish January 29th http://radio.defsf.com:1200/ or PM me for directions to come out to the loft to kick it in person with the bass bins. Be sure to bring enough beer and snax to share as well as a few smiles. your robot friends at DEF <3 http://defsf.com/main --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151831-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 28 22:28:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 63760 invoked by uid 1103); 28 Jan 2010 22:28:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 63721 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2010 22:28:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=xqiTCKTMcwWwkfIfRA8s/gR1agyMQRi0CjFIK/nW/zc=; b=is7Hl84MjcWZHNwitgLXPBCMdJVcQkRB7sGbYniXjCDu1a5rYx4eX/fjZy6MjByFx/ lqUdJ7x7rPNExHuxIitx2/jiDR9lM878MgzFcnKeIykwVB9qo01pFGnaDCnwYmqicpHV 8dyNhdRY3agGg2ZcFPmFdw7I1Vj5fPLLH0IjE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=FnnrKXS6UU/ute+oR/0c9auDtXPTfWGsm4vgX0aJnPYWmR+GnU6AoKNIfejksHYDxR xG7OQElCqK+QYip80/d0Ue2Zxk/YDhK5pNNQMz3IN6g4TY8SrYxvWhO8cNj6ZBM8I7Zs yCv18z0k9HH2d74woNtgjR9GP9ANm2QEtqejI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:28:55 -0800 Message-ID: <1c60b9301001281428u3e96cc73r59d009a8156561a7@mail.gmail.com> From: Greg Bird To: SFRaves Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4b2ac57503a047e410b4e Subject: [sfraves] bsp: Sat.Feb.6th [KONTROL] w/ Dixon (Innervisions) + Seth Troxler (Spectral) --000e0cd4b2ac57503a047e410b4e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Saturday, February 6th, 2010 [ K O N T R O L ] minimal techno + avant house every 1st Saturday at The Endup featuring from Berlin: ::: DIXON ::: (Innervisions, Sonar Kollektiv, Get Physical, BBE) We first encountered Innervisions label boss Dixon at an after party for 2008's Decibel Festival, where his highly stylized take on deep house music, coupled with superior mixing skills and masterful programming, turned us all into believers. Taking the history of dance music and being able to turn it into something uniquely his own is a rare trait indeed, and perhaps one of the many reasons this dancefloor maestro was voted Resident Advisor's #6 DJ in the world for 2009. and from Detroit via Berlin: ::: SETH TROXLER ::: (Visionquest, Crosstown Rebels, Spectral Sound) (Wagon Repair, Wolf + Lamb, Circus Company) When we invited Seth Troxler to play for us back in 2008, he was a recent transplant to Berlin from Detroit, and a spirited young DJ very much on the rise. In the year and a half since, Seth's reputation for rocking parties has absolutely blown up worldwide, with him too securing a spot in RA's top DJs of 2009 at #8. Drawing equally from Detroit's rich history and Berlin's hedonistic party culture, Troxler's oft discussed sets are enthusiastic, sexy, and most of all, serious fun. with residents: ALLAND BYALLO (Nightlight . Liebe*Detail . Dirt Crew) http://www.myspace.com/alland CRAIG KUNA (Mothership . Platform . ESDJCO) http://www.myspace.com/craig1 SAMMY D (Classic . Dirtybird . Utensil . Magnificent 7) http://www.myspace.com/sammydoyle NIKOLA BAYTALA (S.W.A.T. . Robsoul . Junior Boys Own) http://www.myspace.com/nikolaswat _________________________________________________________ The ENDUP 401 6th St @ Harrison, SF 10pm - 6am / 21+ / $20 http://www.theendup.com FREE before 11pm! _________________________________________________________ Facebook Invite: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=3D269870193582 Flyer: http://www.kontrolsf.com/K56/K56H.jpg Poster: http://www.kontrolsf.com/K56/K56P.jpg _________________________________________________________ ::: DIXON ::: THE DJ: When Dixon entered the Berlin club circuit in the early 90=92s, he established his name on the strength of DJing. Back then, confidence or experience based on putting out mixes on the internet did not matter as muc= h as it does now. You had to do your practice, of course, but when your thing was good and tight enough to take it to the clubs, there were opportunities to do so. But those opportunities meant responsibilities. A residency did not mean playing the same club every once in a while, it meant playing the same club every week. The crowd did not consist of people that wander in an= d out of club nights and its guest DJs as the weekly hype commanded them, it consisted of people which headed straight to a certain club night because they were sure its resident DJ would deliver the goods this week as he did last week, and the next weeks to come. As long as that happened, there was no need to move on. You made your decision to return out of good experience and you stuck to it as long as it lasted. In such a context, there is no wa= y to learn quicker how to become a very good DJ than by making people dance throughout a set that lasts the whole night, on a very regular basis. If yo= u can=92t hold the crowd for hours then, you fall through. It is learning by doing, the hard way. Dixon did not only learn very quickly, he loved every moment of it. Starting out low, slow, unfolding the flow, working towards a peak, then working towards another, turning up, turning down, to find the exact point from which to swing moods, to find the perfect way to end what should be a lasting experience. Once you passed your exams in the night clu= b school of that era with distinction, you can rely on it forevermore, and Dixon surely did. His residencies then and now are obviously schooled on th= e stylistic and technical versatility and skills, attitude, stamina and experience based on countless nights honing ways to direct a loyal crowd on the dance floor at will. Hours spent to find and select the right music to achieve the levels of intensity necessary, hours spent to plan the imminent night=92s structure and proceedings, and then hours spent putting it into action. Dixon was always more than happy to spend this much time on his nights, because he takes his profession seriously. It is exactly what matters most to him. He has always been and he always will be a DJ first. This is the mission he embarked on, no end in sight. THE MIXES: Keeping all this in mind, it comes as no surprise that Dixon extended his merits beyond the club by a medium closely connected to the DJ craft. He compiled and mixed the Off Limits compilations, which became very popular and introduced his impeccable style of mixing to a public reception way beyond that of those who had already heard him play in a club context. Later he branched out to even more success by doing a highly influential mi= x compilation for the Get Physical label=92s Body Language series, a mix CD t= hat has inspired people all over the world. These releases were intended to sho= w the sincere dedication Dixon has to his profession, and they evidentially do. THE CLUBS: When DJ Dixon, as he then was known, entered the circuit in the early 90=92s, the music dominating Berlin=92s clubland was relentless. Thos= e were the days when the city=92s well documented legacy as techno mainstay w= as formed. Maybe surprising to some, Dixon delved into breakbeats first, and made his first appearances playing at events organized by Atari Teenage Riot. And he was a teenager himself. And teenagers tend to discover what they really want very quickly. And what dixon discovered was house. He very much totally fell in love with it. What Dixon also discovered was that his concept of house did not necessarily match the concept of house other DJs had, and it certainly did not match the relentlessness mentioned above. Dixon is a soul boy at heart, but he does not like his soul screaming in your face. He likes his soul true and pure. It was the first and not the last time that Dixon felt he did not really belong to the proceedings. His style of playing was too deep and stripped for the ruling garage pomp of th= e gay house scene, yet not banging enough to meet the demands of the techno ravers. Nevertheless, Dixon decided to stick to his idea of house, also the first but not the last time. And he was around, developing his skills and style at club legends like E-Werk, Tresor, Turbine and WMF=92s seminal audi= o video disco nights. In 2005, Dixon founded Inner City, a monthly night at Berlin=92s seminal Weekend Club that served to give Dixon back the opportun= ity to play like he could when he started out playing. It was obvious to anybod= y attending that the club was more than liberating. Dixon used the possibilities of his newly found freedom to full effect, constructing marathon sets that soothed the crowds, and later whipped them into a frenzy until sunrise and further. Soon the other Innervisions DJs as well as illustrious guest DJs joined the party, and Inner City became a guiding light for all things house, as attending clubbers, DJs and producers spread the word far beyond Berlin=92s city limits. =3D=3D=3D> LINKS: Website: http://www.innercityvisions.com/ Discography: http://www.discogs.com/artist/Dixon Myspace (w/ music samples): http://www.myspace.com/justdixon Juno Plus interview (w/ music): http://www.junodownload.com/plus/2010/01/07/dixon-interview/ =3D=3D=3D> AUDIO: Dixon - Live @ Trinity Nightclub, Seattle 2005: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3DPF1R5PIV =3D=3D=3D> VIDEO: Dixon - Live w/ Ame @ Awakenings Festival, Amsterdam 2009: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DyW9QV1UPEqU Dixon - Live @ Beyond Bookings Sunday loft party, Brooklyn 2009: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DvlX6k_QMHlo _________________________________________________________ ::: SETH TROXLER ::: Through a leaking bodily cavity resembling the pork found in Chinese restaurants, Satan shat out a crystal beaming with glowing red embers. This crystal matured into the fetus of Seth Troxler. Seth was placed on earth as a weeping fetus, the sound of inevitability. As he grew, his ancestral root= s took on a magnetic channeling power, more than his feeble mind could ever consciously fathom. As a result, he became capable of creating some of the world=92s finest and most intuitive dance cuts, including releases on Spectral, Items & Things (as Thrill Cosby), Circus Company, FXHE (Young Seth), Esperanza, Beretta Grey, Leftroom, and Dumb Unit. Through a preternatural understanding of rave, Seth conjours up mixes like Botticelli conjoured his Venus. He has played many outstanding internationa= l gigs, notably Panorama Bar, Watergate, Robert Johnson, Harry Kline, Batofar= , City Fox, The Rex and LA=92s Avalon, and NYC=92s Wolf + Lamb parties. He wa= s also a key conceptual force behind America=92s =93Tesh Club=94 now, =93Viss= ionquest=94 parties/production group with partners Ryan Crosson and Lee Curtiss. His musical influences include the chirping of crickets, the whirring of space ships, and the sweet sounds of whistling voodoo magic. However, Seth draws the majority of his inspiration from Robert Downey Jr., and the idea of releasing the shackles that bind Downey so he can finally do heroin in peace. On cold Detroit or Berlin evenings one can often witness Seth Troxler in hi= s front yard, situated beside an overly-cumbersome boombox in a nylon tracksuit, jacking his body to old Dancemania cuts and cooking BBQ. To be involved in such a happening, or eat any of his cooking for that matter, is truly magic. =3D=3D=3D> LINKS: Seth Troxler's discography: http://www.discogs.com/artist/Seth%20Troxler Seth Troxler on MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/sethtroxler Teshno.com Interview, August 2009: http://www.teshno.com/2009/08/seth-troxler-interview.html =3D=3D=3D> AUDIO: Live @ Busta Groove, Dice Club, Berlin 08.28.09: http://soundcloud.com/r_co/seth-troxler-live-busta-groove-dice-club-berlin-= 28-08-2009 =3D=3D=3D> VIDEO: Seth Troxler - Early morning @ Robert Johnson, Frankfurt 2009: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbzmiFnEK6Q4 Seth Troxler - Live @ [KONTROL] SF 09.06.08: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dzo78JKHMdN8 _________________________________________________________ http://www.kontrolsf.com http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=3D6631032340 --000e0cd4b2ac57503a047e410b4e-- From sfraves-return-151832-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 29 01:44:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22969 invoked by uid 1103); 29 Jan 2010 01:44:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22951 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2010 01:44:19 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=BQBXbZ+IwK2zKQEXWsh4V4ZOHArm1lVayKFSfTg5/yw=; b=h1mXQR1hYEprEDDopGQd/EYxIJHzCBVFqw2pmP0U1tckIR/nHv5DzCw4SAGRxAQKRr cprRD3lo5CPnYDYCHtDf0iGckqsMlNR8hte1IpMcrL/Wme+AU/TNA8O1E5pMIV11fdhO LhSjSnpu0E0O+fR7rLFMXVgH+gcGr1zsheM/I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=EhpLIeKgQOqcsy4YGXGVPqetMg6oMsZu/9+XkgqLrA1YUUgwERz3E0sCU9aSaOBp4u 6cdDCanrZFuntqg6dRnMIcPfIGOlzVfQDYdtXgTncJqJvZfNO/o3O/ckJUhLNbo4UMIZ uWQR+u63x6r1mKCsnbl7mpz1fAESKU6ItKiBc= Cc: SFRaves Message-Id: From: Jose Padilla <4beat.dfd@gmail.com> To: Greg Bird In-Reply-To: <1c60b9301001281428u3e96cc73r59d009a8156561a7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:44:12 -0800 References: <1c60b9301001281428u3e96cc73r59d009a8156561a7@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [sfraves] bsp: Sat.Feb.6th [KONTROL] w/ Dixon (Innervisions) + Seth Troxler (Spectral) Seth Troxler is the shit. I heard an obscure mix of his on the RA =20 podcast from 5/25/09, had nothing to do with techno or house. His set =20= wasn't even mixed and featured a bunch of, indie and obscure tracks. =20= Nevertheless, his selection was great because his set just grew on me =20= like fungus. I still listen to it to this day and have always wanted =20= to see what this man can do live because you can obviously tell he is =20= very talented. Anyways, I'm in on this one son! On Jan 28, 2010, at 2:28 PM, Greg Bird wrote: > Saturday, February 6th, 2010 > > [ K O N T R O L ] > > minimal techno + avant house > every 1st Saturday at The Endup > > > featuring from Berlin: > > ::: DIXON ::: > > (Innervisions, Sonar Kollektiv, Get Physical, BBE) > > We first encountered Innervisions label boss Dixon at > an after party for 2008's Decibel Festival, where his > highly stylized take on deep house music, coupled > with superior mixing skills and masterful programming, > turned us all into believers. Taking the history of > dance music and being able to turn it into something > uniquely his own is a rare trait indeed, and perhaps > one of the many reasons this dancefloor maestro was > voted Resident Advisor's #6 DJ in the world for 2009. > > > and from Detroit via Berlin: > > ::: SETH TROXLER ::: > > (Visionquest, Crosstown Rebels, Spectral Sound) > (Wagon Repair, Wolf + Lamb, Circus Company) > > When we invited Seth Troxler to play for us back in > 2008, he was a recent transplant to Berlin from Detroit, > and a spirited young DJ very much on the rise. In the > year and a half since, Seth's reputation for rocking > parties has absolutely blown up worldwide, with him > too securing a spot in RA's top DJs of 2009 at #8. > Drawing equally from Detroit's rich history and Berlin's > hedonistic party culture, Troxler's oft discussed sets > are enthusiastic, sexy, and most of all, serious fun. > > > with residents: > > ALLAND BYALLO (Nightlight . Liebe*Detail . Dirt Crew) > http://www.myspace.com/alland > > CRAIG KUNA (Mothership . Platform . ESDJCO) > http://www.myspace.com/craig1 > > SAMMY D (Classic . Dirtybird . Utensil . Magnificent 7) > http://www.myspace.com/sammydoyle > > NIKOLA BAYTALA (S.W.A.T. . Robsoul . Junior Boys Own) > http://www.myspace.com/nikolaswat > > > _________________________________________________________ > > > The ENDUP > 401 6th St @ Harrison, SF > 10pm - 6am / 21+ / $20 > http://www.theendup.com > > FREE before 11pm! > > _________________________________________________________ > > > Facebook Invite: > http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=3D269870193582 > > Flyer: > http://www.kontrolsf.com/K56/K56H.jpg > > Poster: > http://www.kontrolsf.com/K56/K56P.jpg > > _________________________________________________________ > > > ::: DIXON ::: > > THE DJ: When Dixon entered the Berlin club circuit in the early =20 > 90=92s, he > established his name on the strength of DJing. Back then, confidence =20= > or > experience based on putting out mixes on the internet did not matter =20= > as much > as it does now. You had to do your practice, of course, but when =20 > your thing > was good and tight enough to take it to the clubs, there were =20 > opportunities > to do so. But those opportunities meant responsibilities. A =20 > residency did > not mean playing the same club every once in a while, it meant =20 > playing the > same club every week. The crowd did not consist of people that =20 > wander in and > out of club nights and its guest DJs as the weekly hype commanded =20 > them, it > consisted of people which headed straight to a certain club night =20 > because > they were sure its resident DJ would deliver the goods this week as =20= > he did > last week, and the next weeks to come. As long as that happened, =20 > there was > no need to move on. You made your decision to return out of good =20 > experience > and you stuck to it as long as it lasted. In such a context, there =20 > is no way > to learn quicker how to become a very good DJ than by making people =20= > dance > throughout a set that lasts the whole night, on a very regular =20 > basis. If you > can=92t hold the crowd for hours then, you fall through. It is =20 > learning by > doing, the hard way. Dixon did not only learn very quickly, he loved =20= > every > moment of it. Starting out low, slow, unfolding the flow, working =20 > towards a > peak, then working towards another, turning up, turning down, to =20 > find the > exact point from which to swing moods, to find the perfect way to =20 > end what > should be a lasting experience. Once you passed your exams in the =20 > night club > school of that era with distinction, you can rely on it forevermore, =20= > and > Dixon surely did. His residencies then and now are obviously =20 > schooled on the > stylistic and technical versatility and skills, attitude, stamina and > experience based on countless nights honing ways to direct a loyal =20 > crowd on > the dance floor at will. Hours spent to find and select the right =20 > music to > achieve the levels of intensity necessary, hours spent to plan the =20 > imminent > night=92s structure and proceedings, and then hours spent putting it =20= > into > action. Dixon was always more than happy to spend this much time on =20= > his > nights, because he takes his profession seriously. It is exactly what > matters most to him. He has always been and he always will be a DJ =20 > first. > This is the mission he embarked on, no end in sight. > > THE MIXES: Keeping all this in mind, it comes as no surprise that =20 > Dixon > extended his merits beyond the club by a medium closely connected to =20= > the DJ > craft. He compiled and mixed the Off Limits compilations, which =20 > became very > popular and introduced his impeccable style of mixing to a public =20 > reception > way beyond that of those who had already heard him play in a club =20 > context. > Later he branched out to even more success by doing a highly =20 > influential mix > compilation for the Get Physical label=92s Body Language series, a mix = =20 > CD that > has inspired people all over the world. These releases were intended =20= > to show > the sincere dedication Dixon has to his profession, and they =20 > evidentially > do. > > THE CLUBS: When DJ Dixon, as he then was known, entered the circuit =20= > in the > early 90=92s, the music dominating Berlin=92s clubland was relentless. = =20 > Those > were the days when the city=92s well documented legacy as techno =20 > mainstay was > formed. Maybe surprising to some, Dixon delved into breakbeats =20 > first, and > made his first appearances playing at events organized by Atari =20 > Teenage > Riot. And he was a teenager himself. And teenagers tend to discover =20= > what > they really want very quickly. And what dixon discovered was house. =20= > He very > much totally fell in love with it. What Dixon also discovered was =20 > that his > concept of house did not necessarily match the concept of house =20 > other DJs > had, and it certainly did not match the relentlessness mentioned =20 > above. > Dixon is a soul boy at heart, but he does not like his soul =20 > screaming in > your face. He likes his soul true and pure. It was the first and not =20= > the > last time that Dixon felt he did not really belong to the =20 > proceedings. His > style of playing was too deep and stripped for the ruling garage =20 > pomp of the > gay house scene, yet not banging enough to meet the demands of the =20 > techno > ravers. Nevertheless, Dixon decided to stick to his idea of house, =20 > also the > first but not the last time. And he was around, developing his =20 > skills and > style at club legends like E-Werk, Tresor, Turbine and WMF=92s seminal = =20 > audio > video disco nights. In 2005, Dixon founded Inner City, a monthly =20 > night at > Berlin=92s seminal Weekend Club that served to give Dixon back the =20 > opportunity > to play like he could when he started out playing. It was obvious to =20= > anybody > attending that the club was more than liberating. Dixon used the > possibilities of his newly found freedom to full effect, constructing > marathon sets that soothed the crowds, and later whipped them into a =20= > frenzy > until sunrise and further. Soon the other Innervisions DJs as well as > illustrious guest DJs joined the party, and Inner City became a =20 > guiding > light for all things house, as attending clubbers, DJs and producers =20= > spread > the word far beyond Berlin=92s city limits. > > > =3D=3D=3D> LINKS: > > Website: > http://www.innercityvisions.com/ > > Discography: > http://www.discogs.com/artist/Dixon > > Myspace (w/ music samples): > http://www.myspace.com/justdixon > > Juno Plus interview (w/ music): > http://www.junodownload.com/plus/2010/01/07/dixon-interview/ > > > =3D=3D=3D> AUDIO: > > Dixon - Live @ Trinity Nightclub, Seattle 2005: > http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3DPF1R5PIV > > > =3D=3D=3D> VIDEO: > > Dixon - Live w/ Ame @ Awakenings Festival, Amsterdam 2009: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DyW9QV1UPEqU > > Dixon - Live @ Beyond Bookings Sunday loft party, Brooklyn 2009: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DvlX6k_QMHlo > > > _________________________________________________________ > > > ::: SETH TROXLER ::: > > Through a leaking bodily cavity resembling the pork found in Chinese > restaurants, Satan shat out a crystal beaming with glowing red =20 > embers. This > crystal matured into the fetus of Seth Troxler. Seth was placed on =20 > earth as > a weeping fetus, the sound of inevitability. As he grew, his =20 > ancestral roots > took on a magnetic channeling power, more than his feeble mind could =20= > ever > consciously fathom. As a result, he became capable of creating some =20= > of the > world=92s finest and most intuitive dance cuts, including releases on > Spectral, Items & Things (as Thrill Cosby), Circus Company, FXHE =20 > (Young > Seth), Esperanza, Beretta Grey, Leftroom, and Dumb Unit. > > Through a preternatural understanding of rave, Seth conjours up =20 > mixes like > Botticelli conjoured his Venus. He has played many outstanding =20 > international > gigs, notably Panorama Bar, Watergate, Robert Johnson, Harry Kline, =20= > Batofar, > City Fox, The Rex and LA=92s Avalon, and NYC=92s Wolf + Lamb parties. = He =20 > was > also a key conceptual force behind America=92s =93Tesh Club=94 now, =20= > =93Vissionquest=94 > parties/production group with partners Ryan Crosson and Lee Curtiss. > > His musical influences include the chirping of crickets, the =20 > whirring of > space ships, and the sweet sounds of whistling voodoo magic. =20 > However, Seth > draws the majority of his inspiration from Robert Downey Jr., and =20 > the idea > of releasing the shackles that bind Downey so he can finally do =20 > heroin in > peace. > > On cold Detroit or Berlin evenings one can often witness Seth =20 > Troxler in his > front yard, situated beside an overly-cumbersome boombox in a nylon > tracksuit, jacking his body to old Dancemania cuts and cooking BBQ. =20= > To be > involved in such a happening, or eat any of his cooking for that =20 > matter, is > truly magic. > > > =3D=3D=3D> LINKS: > > Seth Troxler's discography: > http://www.discogs.com/artist/Seth%20Troxler > > Seth Troxler on MySpace: > http://www.myspace.com/sethtroxler > > Teshno.com Interview, August 2009: > http://www.teshno.com/2009/08/seth-troxler-interview.html > > > =3D=3D=3D> AUDIO: > > Live @ Busta Groove, Dice Club, Berlin 08.28.09: > = http://soundcloud.com/r_co/seth-troxler-live-busta-groove-dice-club-berlin= -28-08-2009 > > > =3D=3D=3D> VIDEO: > > Seth Troxler - Early morning @ Robert Johnson, Frankfurt 2009: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbzmiFnEK6Q4 > > Seth Troxler - Live @ [KONTROL] SF 09.06.08: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dzo78JKHMdN8 > > > _________________________________________________________ > > http://www.kontrolsf.com > > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=3D6631032340 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151833-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 01 22:09:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 80285 invoked by uid 1103); 1 Feb 2010 22:09:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 80244 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2010 22:09:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=djproxy.com; h=Received:MIME-Version:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:User-Agent:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=IpPmzMEyi+v9npFLqFtz56hb8JPslsMYra4eKh3YV3vBhXj/WvAO6wSOmCXcwhcUYwDKOWy8D/Vhswyrtoj2Z4yNqb3syhzrSY9hXZqenFKVujIOXSSX4ptEHLGLSw9m; MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:09:05 -0700 From: To: Message-ID: <4afde872254c53b862e6a9c3e9af4a34@activepassive.net> X-Sender: sfr@djproxy.com User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.3-stable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Identified-User: {2441:box385.bluehost.com:activepa:djproxy.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with sfr@djproxy.com} Subject: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on =?UTF-8?Q?Saturday=3F?= What the hell? People throwing M80's at cops?!? Who brings fireworks to parties?!??! http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/c/a/2010/01/31/BAQ81BQGPC.DTL A dance party to raise money for the legal defense of student protesters turned violent in San Francisco early Sunday morning, as police arrested 11 people at a building South of Market. Ten people were cited and released for misdemeanors, including public drunkenness, said Officer Samson Chan of the San Francisco Police Department. A 23-year-old man remains in jail after police said he threw a large M-80 firecracker, barely missing an officer. He faces felony charges of aggravated assault. Police went to 154 Seventh St. around 1 a.m. after neighbors complained of noise, Chan said, and the fire marshal couldn't get inside the party attended by several hundred. When some started throwing bottles and firecrackers, "there was no other choice but to make sure this party was stopped," he said. But partygoers said it was the police who turned violent, roughing up people for taking photos and asking to see a search warrant, said Kassia Korkus, 23. "I feel they knew it was a politically motivated party, and that fueled their aggressiveness toward the attendees," Korkus said. The party began as a way to raise cash for legal help needed by protesters arrested last fall at San Francisco State University and campuses of the University of California, where students occupied buildings to protest tuition increases and layoffs. Campuses have dropped most charges. But partygoers said they expect more activists to be arrested when demonstrations heat up again in March. It wasn't clear how much money was collected at the party, where many people paid up to $5 each to attend. Jared Aldrich, 32, a student at Laney College in Oakland, said he was the first person arrested at the party and now faces misdemeanors for resisting arrest, delaying an officer and battery. "I don't know what that's about because I'm the one with the broken arm," he said, adding that police threw him down and pulled two fingers back to his wrist. He said his wrist is swollen and needs an X-ray. Sam Brown, 22, said he left when he saw people in plainclothes that he and others took to be police shove partygoers against the wall, swear at them and demand to know who was in charge. "I was very shaken up," Brown said. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151834-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 02 00:47:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 52914 invoked by uid 1103); 2 Feb 2010 00:46:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 38690 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2010 00:31:26 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1265070685; bh=HFtOjHEhjdj8rEUW65j+ADGyYcWwYDwS+SMJvy1Qqmc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=HmZqx+gqIubadWs12yheBNofSCLATfeacdhR+VPnBmDKLIZuu8bxnWs6mIeDvoXZiGw1/qoCmCjcvdiFpJe6bmG2YtkVKNXEO/h1+f1ppjLvi68Jc/hcmgjhJ1H5KifjYC3DPHpWEFe/f/WvOBTPv/PzD23dnv3yCLW9Wkk08Ow= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=D+GWmJiBfMUY+Y+4fKbGTwf2RNfSIW3SEk/k6oJpu76Icyn7Qn7hb7hIMtBXSlWpQ2y0WUFARE3W5pNxTXXL5A29pniTusCrCzv60NXTqRdUfQ6ZIdsgP9wnQK7EFeI36M3S8IqlmTp0u0I6goRgzAYAaZHnlgG/nlWhNPMfPrw=; Message-ID: <771549.54861.qm@web31107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: oerCvxIVM1mhDyTpLuwqQIrOT1kYcR2T4aDyQkm5090Fwg_2VIOijerEgZA1LAdmd0YboJn3UG12bDwGhRe7QsgwKcTgUz1E5Z_Dp48URsLh0kSz2NOrIW3UnsnNSGknKESSfN.pQttH0V3ezI4Ll3tfkwwme3bEUmkHngLOSLm_GhJeKMKQCeLuKzs6AIkUZuU_bpaASPaWkKmw33qp.Fdstr8wfFeLaaJFyJ4X8Td35ekFODTBMUgjXgzsmleZuLdKG6PquhiTkU1rxw4J3Ubx2WM32Hl8Ez06d3.Sj7QLegwz_KJBRAh3B4J_f1PFVRLABbhJAsOI0nak89iIEeJ_8T60XrFtoErOjqqJuJFkqfqSkfWttM7t0Wm2qLR.Bp_HaXfezzU2l2Oitiiv8L62_6bQgdJjsQ6m04ttnIYeQ5RdRfu7NfZMo7PwZgCmV77e6SbXBaYjKTC8zeh9_KOnOnq87U4j7n8PNhOKxMh9W6k- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.1.10 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 16:31:25 -0800 (PST) From: Uncle Noah To: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <4afde872254c53b862e6a9c3e9af4a34@activepassive.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? =0A=0AFolks, Uncle Noah here -- y'all know that I wouldn't lead you down th= e wrong path or bullshit you, so please heed this warning, since this artic= le makes me think that this needs to be said: =0A=0ADon't throw explosives= at/toward/near/around the cops. =0A=0AThe dude who allegedly did this M80= tossing is lucky he didn't get his ass shot, repeatedly. I'm not saying I= 'm for parties getting shut down, but don't go putting yourself into a pote= ntially lethal situation by getting stupid with the fuzz.=0A=0Aword.=0A=0A_= ________________________________________________________________________=0A= "Just because it's in print doesn't mean it's the gospel. " -Michael Jackso= n=0A=0A=0A--- On Mon, 2/1/10, sfr@djproxy.com wrote:=0A= =0A> From: sfr@djproxy.com =0A> Subject: [sfraves] Anyone = go to this party that got busted on Saturday?=0A> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org= =0A> Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 2:09 PM=0A> What the hell?=A0 People t= hrowing=0A> M80's at cops?!?=A0 Who brings fireworks to=0A> parties?!??!=0A= > =0A> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=3D/c/a/2010/01/31/BA= Q81BQGPC.DTL=0A> =0A> A dance party to raise money for the legal defense of= =0A> student protesters=0A> turned violent in San Francisco early Sunday mo= rning, as=0A> police arrested 11=0A> people at a building South of Market.= =0A> =0A> Ten people were cited and released for misdemeanors,=0A> includin= g public=0A> drunkenness, said Officer Samson Chan of the San Francisco=0A>= Police=0A> Department.=0A> =0A> A 23-year-old man remains in jail after po= lice said he=0A> threw a large M-80=0A> firecracker, barely missing an offi= cer. He faces felony=0A> charges of=0A> aggravated assault.=0A> =0A> Police= went to 154 Seventh St. around 1 a.m. after=0A> neighbors complained of=0A= > noise, Chan said, and the fire marshal couldn't get inside=0A> the party= =0A> attended by several hundred.=0A> =0A> When some started throwing bottl= es and firecrackers, "there=0A> was no other=0A> choice but to make sure th= is party was stopped," he said.=0A> =0A> But partygoers said it was the pol= ice who turned violent,=0A> roughing up=0A> people for taking photos and as= king to see a search=0A> warrant, said Kassia=0A> Korkus, 23.=0A> =0A> "I f= eel they knew it was a politically motivated party, and=0A> that fueled=0A>= their aggressiveness toward the attendees," Korkus said.=0A> =0A> The part= y began as a way to raise cash for legal help=0A> needed by protesters=0A> = arrested last fall at San Francisco State University and=0A> campuses of th= e=0A> University of California, where students occupied buildings=0A> to pr= otest=0A> tuition increases and layoffs. Campuses have dropped most=0A> cha= rges. But=0A> partygoers said they expect more activists to be arrested=0A>= when=0A> demonstrations heat up again in March.=0A> =0A> It wasn't clear h= ow much money was collected at the party,=0A> where many=0A> people paid up= to $5 each to attend.=0A> =0A> Jared Aldrich, 32, a student at Laney Colle= ge in Oakland,=0A> said he was the=0A> first person arrested at the party a= nd now faces=0A> misdemeanors for resisting=0A> arrest, delaying an officer= and battery.=0A> =0A> "I don't know what that's about because I'm the one = with=0A> the broken arm,"=0A> he said, adding that police threw him down an= d pulled two=0A> fingers back to=0A> his wrist. He said his wrist is swolle= n and needs an=0A> X-ray.=0A> =0A> Sam Brown, 22, said he left when he saw = people in=0A> plainclothes that he and=0A> others took to be police shove p= artygoers against the wall,=0A> swear at them=0A> and demand to know who wa= s in charge.=0A> =0A> "I was very shaken up," Brown said.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A= > ---------------------------------------------------------------------=0A>= To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org=0A> For addition= al commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151835-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 02 21:35:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 84165 invoked by uid 1103); 2 Feb 2010 21:35:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 83879 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2010 21:35:40 -0000 Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 13:35:39 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Estioko To: Uncle Noah cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <771549.54861.qm@web31107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <771549.54861.qm@web31107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1423478257-1265146539=:22224" Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? --0-1423478257-1265146539=:22224 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT There are a few firsthand reports on bayraves: http://www.brproductions.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=24726&st=0 A little hard to read the thread w/ their interwebz speak. In any case, I was at ASR on saturday, great family style party! And I got to run into a number of people I haven't seen in a while :-) -terry ------------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@hyperreal.org SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org On Mon, 1 Feb 2010, Uncle Noah wrote: > > > Folks, Uncle Noah here -- y'all know that I wouldn't lead you down the wrong path or bullshit you, so please heed this warning, since this article makes me think that this needs to be said: > > Don't throw explosives at/toward/near/around the cops. > > The dude who allegedly did this M80 tossing is lucky he didn't get his ass shot, repeatedly. I'm not saying I'm for parties getting shut down, but don't go putting yourself into a potentially lethal situation by getting stupid with the fuzz. > > word. > > _________________________________________________________________________ > "Just because it's in print doesn't mean it's the gospel. " -Michael Jackson > > > --- On Mon, 2/1/10, sfr@djproxy.com wrote: > >> From: sfr@djproxy.com >> Subject: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? >> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >> Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 2:09 PM >> What the hell?  People throwing >> M80's at cops?!?  Who brings fireworks to >> parties?!??! >> >> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/c/a/2010/01/31/BAQ81BQGPC.DTL >> >> A dance party to raise money for the legal defense of >> student protesters >> turned violent in San Francisco early Sunday morning, as >> police arrested 11 >> people at a building South of Market. >> >> Ten people were cited and released for misdemeanors, >> including public >> drunkenness, said Officer Samson Chan of the San Francisco >> Police >> Department. >> >> A 23-year-old man remains in jail after police said he >> threw a large M-80 >> firecracker, barely missing an officer. He faces felony >> charges of >> aggravated assault. >> >> Police went to 154 Seventh St. around 1 a.m. after >> neighbors complained of >> noise, Chan said, and the fire marshal couldn't get inside >> the party >> attended by several hundred. >> >> When some started throwing bottles and firecrackers, "there >> was no other >> choice but to make sure this party was stopped," he said. >> >> But partygoers said it was the police who turned violent, >> roughing up >> people for taking photos and asking to see a search >> warrant, said Kassia >> Korkus, 23. >> >> "I feel they knew it was a politically motivated party, and >> that fueled >> their aggressiveness toward the attendees," Korkus said. >> >> The party began as a way to raise cash for legal help >> needed by protesters >> arrested last fall at San Francisco State University and >> campuses of the >> University of California, where students occupied buildings >> to protest >> tuition increases and layoffs. Campuses have dropped most >> charges. But >> partygoers said they expect more activists to be arrested >> when >> demonstrations heat up again in March. >> >> It wasn't clear how much money was collected at the party, >> where many >> people paid up to $5 each to attend. >> >> Jared Aldrich, 32, a student at Laney College in Oakland, >> said he was the >> first person arrested at the party and now faces >> misdemeanors for resisting >> arrest, delaying an officer and battery. >> >> "I don't know what that's about because I'm the one with >> the broken arm," >> he said, adding that police threw him down and pulled two >> fingers back to >> his wrist. He said his wrist is swollen and needs an >> X-ray. >> >> Sam Brown, 22, said he left when he saw people in >> plainclothes that he and >> others took to be police shove partygoers against the wall, >> swear at them >> and demand to know who was in charge. >> >> "I was very shaken up," Brown said. >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > --0-1423478257-1265146539=:22224 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --0-1423478257-1265146539=:22224-- From sfraves-return-151836-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 02 21:43:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 99330 invoked by uid 1103); 2 Feb 2010 21:43:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 99300 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2010 21:43:16 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1265146995; bh=js5mJ9FakpUj/X32Af8tXZsSo2ca4KJrJZxydkvUjBc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Liy0r9gGoumuZQulPtxn53CkhlTG5DpRv/4V6Ul10EvYnQjH9bjZ5dmjWXobdshLw5o2BqhNiskzT5AO4H/i43ogYV/holuVtpeny/Igl2hvAjEE4EIRFTMfUvt9orAzMp/Lxq0163MqiUvH9bS1H3acUzmxWSfS39uVBopgc54= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=J2ui0NWnIwGxAIKTcp6TBTaw/kEp1pSH+gK4o0Rz9E3YxBf9RGYN77rlN/37CE7r/o27+PK/D+MpOK8ZcWV/33kLngk/MInWTjSTeP3UWAwJCE73Mmx+/nqE06FLHFZnDvBvWsKCSTQKfvCIJWY/jHfNDsAwzXUvxqsQdlWrOdw=; Message-ID: <125371.97701.qm@web31102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: _MYybl0VM1l9hDMObc6SYKva.bw5L.GKmG6AApaZ21amyhGg4DRsla1d0Ge5mASzLcYYjsjiecr_7A184b.GAFLuew5dpSfIEG9sktztoM5v.te6XHE8IFepSDzM60MIv_CINVjd91WXHF5B97_M4ogN4fixcm_t1zmwrZA1A_lfFx5wXX3eIMrRhxqu6Kd.VQJEsXfBNl29OPvsC.D.z1CcPI5MU4AspbTgHk20L7lBhWgiYTOYg5LxfIGwlyskPZkvglke4hbp2h1p1FvvhgT1tysS_HbRKVpu2YNJGlo.Kgsld53Bq_BOgbqhir4MMTjIb2n_8ccslIlo2Pou_LqoIeE7FJxPVkstR2Afsg4CjrZN8s6YK0AfWSV56cexBvbXyeIXSYFP4rr_.12VeFl8ytjzRwkRF_0zlO9ByGk8WHGiDe65pFsGsp2ipgVt.4zILZEVDkHTElsNiQVVhatCdrgC4Px_LPg3LpQjws4WtQLv5VlwnKnROCdZhScCR6w97C4q843KpSJD8iHiLKere7qMbeXZyJaKgmolDPSTBAV0DqShlGiPBKbe1eGcQ9n7dz0k3uHpCLellwAuJhL_HqDS1Z9FR_L2s0oL4y_ciYdhTYy1niYmBhFW.gYCuQ1v4vz8QvzB9ntwZb4- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.1.10 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 13:43:15 -0800 (PST) From: Uncle Noah To: SFRaves In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? =0AYou can throw whatever you want at Terry.=0A=0A_________________________= ________________________________________________=0A"Just because it's in pr= int doesn't mean it's the gospel. " -Michael Jackson=0A=0A=0A--- On Tue, 2/= 2/10, Terry Estioko wrote:=0A=0A> From: Terry Estioko= =0A> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party t= hat got busted on Saturday?=0A> To: "Uncle Noah" =0A> = Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org=0A> Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 1:35 PM=0A> = There are a few firsthand reports on=0A> bayraves:=0A> http://www.brproduct= ions.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=3D24726&st=3D0=0A> =0A> A little hard t= o read the thread w/ their interwebz speak.=0A> =0A> In any case, I was at = ASR on saturday, great family style=0A> party! And I got =0A> to run into a= number of people I haven't seen in a while=0A> :-)=0A> =0A> -terry=0A> =0A= > ------------------------------------------=0A> terry estioko=A0 =A0=A0=A0= | terry@hyperreal.org=0A> SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org=0A> = =0A> On Mon, 1 Feb 2010, Uncle Noah wrote:=0A> =0A> >=0A> >=0A> > Folks, Un= cle Noah here -- y'all know that I wouldn't=0A> lead you down the wrong pat= h or bullshit you, so please heed=0A> this warning, since this article make= s me think that this=0A> needs to be said: =0A> >=0A> > Don't throw explosi= ves at/toward/near/around the cops.=0A> =0A> >=0A> > The dude who allegedly= did this M80 tossing is lucky=0A> he didn't get his ass shot, repeatedly.= =A0 I'm not saying=0A> I'm for parties getting shut down, but don't go putt= ing=0A> yourself into a potentially lethal situation by getting=0A> stupid = with the fuzz.=0A> >=0A> > word.=0A> >=0A> >=0A> __________________________= _______________________________________________=0A> > "Just because it's in= print doesn't mean it's the=0A> gospel. " -Michael Jackson=0A> >=0A> >=0A>= > --- On Mon, 2/1/10, sfr@djproxy.com=0A> =0A> wrote:=0A>= >=0A> >> From: sfr@djproxy.com=0A> =0A> >> Subject: [sfra= ves] Anyone go to this party that=0A> got busted on Saturday?=0A> >> To: sf= raves@hyperreal.org=0A> >> Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 2:09 PM=0A> >> W= hat the hell?=A0 People throwing=0A> >> M80's at cops?!?=A0 Who brings fire= works to=0A> >> parties?!??!=0A> >> =0A> >> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/a= rticle/article?f=3D/c/a/2010/01/31/BAQ81BQGPC.DTL=0A> >> =0A> >> A dance pa= rty to raise money for the legal defense=0A> of=0A> >> student protesters= =0A> >> turned violent in San Francisco early Sunday=0A> morning, as=0A> >>= police arrested 11=0A> >> people at a building South of Market.=0A> >> =0A= > >> Ten people were cited and released for=0A> misdemeanors,=0A> >> includ= ing public=0A> >> drunkenness, said Officer Samson Chan of the San=0A> Fran= cisco=0A> >> Police=0A> >> Department.=0A> >> =0A> >> A 23-year-old man rem= ains in jail after police=0A> said he=0A> >> threw a large M-80=0A> >> fire= cracker, barely missing an officer. He faces=0A> felony=0A> >> charges of= =0A> >> aggravated assault.=0A> >> =0A> >> Police went to 154 Seventh St. a= round 1 a.m.=0A> after=0A> >> neighbors complained of=0A> >> noise, Chan sa= id, and the fire marshal couldn't=0A> get inside=0A> >> the party=0A> >> at= tended by several hundred.=0A> >> =0A> >> When some started throwing bottle= s and=0A> firecrackers, "there=0A> >> was no other=0A> >> choice but to mak= e sure this party was stopped,"=0A> he said.=0A> >> =0A> >> But partygoers = said it was the police who turned=0A> violent,=0A> >> roughing up=0A> >> pe= ople for taking photos and asking to see a=0A> search=0A> >> warrant, said = Kassia=0A> >> Korkus, 23.=0A> >> =0A> >> "I feel they knew it was a politic= ally motivated=0A> party, and=0A> >> that fueled=0A> >> their aggressivenes= s toward the attendees," Korkus=0A> said.=0A> >> =0A> >> The party began as= a way to raise cash for legal=0A> help=0A> >> needed by protesters=0A> >> = arrested last fall at San Francisco State=0A> University and=0A> >> campuse= s of the=0A> >> University of California, where students occupied=0A> build= ings=0A> >> to protest=0A> >> tuition increases and layoffs. Campuses have= =0A> dropped most=0A> >> charges. But=0A> >> partygoers said they expect mo= re activists to be=0A> arrested=0A> >> when=0A> >> demonstrations heat up a= gain in March.=0A> >> =0A> >> It wasn't clear how much money was collected = at=0A> the party,=0A> >> where many=0A> >> people paid up to $5 each to att= end.=0A> >> =0A> >> Jared Aldrich, 32, a student at Laney College in=0A> Oa= kland,=0A> >> said he was the=0A> >> first person arrested at the party and= now faces=0A> >> misdemeanors for resisting=0A> >> arrest, delaying an off= icer and battery.=0A> >> =0A> >> "I don't know what that's about because I'= m the=0A> one with=0A> >> the broken arm,"=0A> >> he said, adding that poli= ce threw him down and=0A> pulled two=0A> >> fingers back to=0A> >> his wris= t. He said his wrist is swollen and needs=0A> an=0A> >> X-ray.=0A> >> =0A> = >> Sam Brown, 22, said he left when he saw people in=0A> >> plainclothes th= at he and=0A> >> others took to be police shove partygoers against=0A> the = wall,=0A> >> swear at them=0A> >> and demand to know who was in charge.=0A>= >> =0A> >> "I was very shaken up," Brown said.=0A> >> =0A> >> =0A> >> =0A>= >>=0A> -------------------------------------------------------------------= --=0A> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org=0A> >> = For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org=0A> >> =0A> >>= =0A> >=0A> >=0A> ----------------------------------------------------------= -----------=0A> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org= =0A> > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org=0A> >=0A= > =0A> --------------------------------------------------------------------= -=0A> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org=0A> For add= itional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org=0A=0A=0A --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151837-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 02 22:14:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 43551 invoked by uid 1103); 2 Feb 2010 22:14:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 43427 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2010 22:14:13 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1265148852; bh=q+BHLrvfB8CVXyZfgDo2dEA9qrR+gIVSlJidNONX/eQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bX+LGqaW0FFoaUsUNrapkbvdg9nKSramOHYqAKULGRy8TPxtvtp4JhIjo+z+O12wfyqqDLKtez/Oo0nNRPG2T2DIPh40OtZZW4qQF946VeMVBjwut82nRtZ7WIap0V2ubAO1Ayle7T8HG7YQzI6IXJyu0XY4ymdXfBXuhWHhjOc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qh0QbcACxv3+qr5rzL+WvI7KaEh+LGT70jSpcAeoNU0yEldqPnUx9YZ07+Bd9gz7oxHqitt+UwE+QMcdxKWrw3EtlB2Ihkysn4vDSaEnFLXJDx6pgxKTJB+zeX0Zw6itbQKhXHY7EmCjmGorln7CJpPyX6tmDcUo3xt6xKJjG6g=; Message-ID: <97158.67427.qm@web32408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: fh0RzHoVM1my.xKDqnztqAi0P3Hqz8Om29buC6fbLFApogb8yQajKg7Zrf62FWiJOI9cXbOOblp9MVXMlymqSSp7bE9UZbPv9_UvJ6PVWpI7ZMclViLC76oJRsFyhl.RYNsST0Ek91V9.QGJyB_KFDiTAiCMiK9ow8GC3tzR4pd.jOF3HtBJVSA56EC2OuuOnKe_S0Z6kAImgObUu_G85VNeS6gq1LcMLSmLpE1pHQBQWgbHlZXbCZlK7vOw3ZC9rF6k29IQRricY2NPU2UgJqRZZ5TyaiZUAiAA5nH_iF4H_5jGkkfLTG2_5Ehk8LNolO3bSCQOEJI4n1UvRnVhjZJthdM5DNCnWLvcl9xhVKoXYnL3FAYipnOFsHdk4yd.6n6lzjtcjljlsYeCF7DvuiWCHEdjKbJrcIYM9862W3YVH8REzvKAb6dsaWti88BBlt6xEkys5m6MQP.YXzK8sjBNRBWaGtbBuV8knYaa2hUz0Os1zsSyw9VAxLd6kBpoiFBnZmOwi07c2W1FLxhyd9wyZtTSasPeza94XhgZQm6TgB1PAJlvJRpR4AN_oirWM8U7MIhEBBbaPPaVrqQT9Zg50p2UQ8JdiC6N09Zi5NfEBzQ6Vzc5TOrmy9Elw7f47ASK5xXNNAMbPjkmi4O1Y9pq2mLwHD1jQdbuoQk- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/272.7 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <125371.97701.qm@web31102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 14:14:11 -0800 (PST) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: Uncle Noah , SFRaves In-Reply-To: <125371.97701.qm@web31102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? throw money! (large bills only) ----- Original Message ---- From: Uncle Noah To: SFRaves Sent: Tue, February 2, 2010 1:43:15 PM Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? You can throw whatever you want at Terry. _________________________________________________________________________ "Just because it's in print doesn't mean it's the gospel. " -Michael Jackson --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Terry Estioko wrote: > From: Terry Estioko > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? > To: "Uncle Noah" > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 1:35 PM > There are a few firsthand reports on > bayraves: > http://www.brproductions.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=24726&st=0 > > A little hard to read the thread w/ their interwebz speak. > > In any case, I was at ASR on saturday, great family style > party! And I got > to run into a number of people I haven't seen in a while > :-) > > -terry > > ------------------------------------------ > terry estioko | terry@hyperreal.org > SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org > > On Mon, 1 Feb 2010, Uncle Noah wrote: > > > > > > > Folks, Uncle Noah here -- y'all know that I wouldn't > lead you down the wrong path or bullshit you, so please heed > this warning, since this article makes me think that this > needs to be said: > > > > Don't throw explosives at/toward/near/around the cops. > > > > > The dude who allegedly did this M80 tossing is lucky > he didn't get his ass shot, repeatedly. I'm not saying > I'm for parties getting shut down, but don't go putting > yourself into a potentially lethal situation by getting > stupid with the fuzz. > > > > word. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > "Just because it's in print doesn't mean it's the > gospel. " -Michael Jackson > > > > > > --- On Mon, 2/1/10, sfr@djproxy.com > > wrote: > > > >> From: sfr@djproxy.com > > >> Subject: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that > got busted on Saturday? > >> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > >> Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 2:09 PM > >> What the hell? People throwing > >> M80's at cops?!? Who brings fireworks to > >> parties?!??! > >> > >> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/c/a/2010/01/31/BAQ81BQGPC.DTL > >> > >> A dance party to raise money for the legal defense > of > >> student protesters > >> turned violent in San Francisco early Sunday > morning, as > >> police arrested 11 > >> people at a building South of Market. > >> > >> Ten people were cited and released for > misdemeanors, > >> including public > >> drunkenness, said Officer Samson Chan of the San > Francisco > >> Police > >> Department. > >> > >> A 23-year-old man remains in jail after police > said he > >> threw a large M-80 > >> firecracker, barely missing an officer. He faces > felony > >> charges of > >> aggravated assault. > >> > >> Police went to 154 Seventh St. around 1 a.m. > after > >> neighbors complained of > >> noise, Chan said, and the fire marshal couldn't > get inside > >> the party > >> attended by several hundred. > >> > >> When some started throwing bottles and > firecrackers, "there > >> was no other > >> choice but to make sure this party was stopped," > he said. > >> > >> But partygoers said it was the police who turned > violent, > >> roughing up > >> people for taking photos and asking to see a > search > >> warrant, said Kassia > >> Korkus, 23. > >> > >> "I feel they knew it was a politically motivated > party, and > >> that fueled > >> their aggressiveness toward the attendees," Korkus > said. > >> > >> The party began as a way to raise cash for legal > help > >> needed by protesters > >> arrested last fall at San Francisco State > University and > >> campuses of the > >> University of California, where students occupied > buildings > >> to protest > >> tuition increases and layoffs. Campuses have > dropped most > >> charges. But > >> partygoers said they expect more activists to be > arrested > >> when > >> demonstrations heat up again in March. > >> > >> It wasn't clear how much money was collected at > the party, > >> where many > >> people paid up to $5 each to attend. > >> > >> Jared Aldrich, 32, a student at Laney College in > Oakland, > >> said he was the > >> first person arrested at the party and now faces > >> misdemeanors for resisting > >> arrest, delaying an officer and battery. > >> > >> "I don't know what that's about because I'm the > one with > >> the broken arm," > >> he said, adding that police threw him down and > pulled two > >> fingers back to > >> his wrist. He said his wrist is swollen and needs > an > >> X-ray. > >> > >> Sam Brown, 22, said he left when he saw people in > >> plainclothes that he and > >> others took to be police shove partygoers against > the wall, > >> swear at them > >> and demand to know who was in charge. > >> > >> "I was very shaken up," Brown said. > >> > >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > >> > >> > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151838-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 03 02:30:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 55992 invoked by uid 1103); 3 Feb 2010 02:30:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 55969 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2010 02:30:30 -0000 Message-ID: <4B68DFC5.6000505@sonic.net> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:30:29 -0800 From: Shatter User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfr@djproxy.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org References: <4afde872254c53b862e6a9c3e9af4a34@activepassive.net> In-Reply-To: <4afde872254c53b862e6a9c3e9af4a34@activepassive.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? The answer you are looking for is "Assholes" "Assholes" bring fireworks to a party. sfr@djproxy.com wrote: > What the hell? People throwing M80's at cops?!? Who brings fireworks to > parties?!??! > > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/c/a/2010/01/31/BAQ81BQGPC.DTL > > A dance party to raise money for the legal defense of student protesters > turned violent in San Francisco early Sunday morning, as police arrested 11 > people at a building South of Market. > > Ten people were cited and released for misdemeanors, including public > drunkenness, said Officer Samson Chan of the San Francisco Police > Department. > > A 23-year-old man remains in jail after police said he threw a large M-80 > firecracker, barely missing an officer. He faces felony charges of > aggravated assault. > > Police went to 154 Seventh St. around 1 a.m. after neighbors complained of > noise, Chan said, and the fire marshal couldn't get inside the party > attended by several hundred. > > When some started throwing bottles and firecrackers, "there was no other > choice but to make sure this party was stopped," he said. > > But partygoers said it was the police who turned violent, roughing up > people for taking photos and asking to see a search warrant, said Kassia > Korkus, 23. > > "I feel they knew it was a politically motivated party, and that fueled > their aggressiveness toward the attendees," Korkus said. > > The party began as a way to raise cash for legal help needed by protesters > arrested last fall at San Francisco State University and campuses of the > University of California, where students occupied buildings to protest > tuition increases and layoffs. Campuses have dropped most charges. But > partygoers said they expect more activists to be arrested when > demonstrations heat up again in March. > > It wasn't clear how much money was collected at the party, where many > people paid up to $5 each to attend. > > Jared Aldrich, 32, a student at Laney College in Oakland, said he was the > first person arrested at the party and now faces misdemeanors for resisting > arrest, delaying an officer and battery. > > "I don't know what that's about because I'm the one with the broken arm," > he said, adding that police threw him down and pulled two fingers back to > his wrist. He said his wrist is swollen and needs an X-ray. > > Sam Brown, 22, said he left when he saw people in plainclothes that he and > others took to be police shove partygoers against the wall, swear at them > and demand to know who was in charge. > > "I was very shaken up," Brown said. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151839-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 03 03:35:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27722 invoked by uid 1103); 3 Feb 2010 03:35:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27679 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2010 03:35:06 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=rhk4B5u0kMO2e5xgcM9vGKz8Ey7eg2REuyINvXRZPT0=; b=DwNquznfMPkXW4ORXhfyQebFKHTNDuCQd3jApPWsP6rTGJ5dUCVwYbQvd7+uNxgIaa a6m84V6beFDhRxqXISewDqom9AfMULj1n5aO3lpnT2A6FLTlQV+e25ihXbzb3a1cVRDO x3TwU+DyLrzcz+BXGJHpvROGUUfy5sPHG466o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Gkk1hJ1Pl7v1M/iotGnOq3F7vRo+Wu5o+qITaYRbScvT72VwZ5ad4WQ9W8BdUyQnP5 XvI+F/UsPVwXOzyX/BfFy6+xbp3UzJ3QYQumykUPt6m72WOHpzc/b/QivEw+Usgak/Cs wjwutAs60g7YmwKt6wOeaPJnJ2EXFHPXEL8vE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B68DFC5.6000505@sonic.net> References: <4afde872254c53b862e6a9c3e9af4a34@activepassive.net> <4B68DFC5.6000505@sonic.net> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 04:35:04 +0100 Message-ID: <7237bf9f1002021935y762cdfaft23f3e6153bb9e1e9@mail.gmail.com> From: Nyc Labrets To: Shatter Cc: sfr@djproxy.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364d21357a9e4d047ea9e7d9 Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? --0016364d21357a9e4d047ea9e7d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Shatter wrote: > The answer you are looking for is "Assholes" > > "Assholes" bring fireworks to a party. Umm, starting with the Chinese, fireworks have been used at parties for *thousands* of years. Waiting until cops show up to enforce fucked up Laws, created by fun-hating assholes, to set off fireworks, shows a profound lack of judgment. You must be a charming dinner guest. > > > > > sfr@djproxy.com wrote: > >> What the hell? People throwing M80's at cops?!? Who brings fireworks to >> parties?!??! >> >> >> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/c/a/2010/01/31/BAQ81BQGPC.DTL >> >> A dance party to raise money for the legal defense of student protesters >> turned violent in San Francisco early Sunday morning, as police arrested >> 11 >> people at a building South of Market. >> >> Ten people were cited and released for misdemeanors, including public >> drunkenness, said Officer Samson Chan of the San Francisco Police >> Department. >> >> A 23-year-old man remains in jail after police said he threw a large M-80 >> firecracker, barely missing an officer. He faces felony charges of >> aggravated assault. >> >> Police went to 154 Seventh St. around 1 a.m. after neighbors complained of >> noise, Chan said, and the fire marshal couldn't get inside the party >> attended by several hundred. >> >> When some started throwing bottles and firecrackers, "there was no other >> choice but to make sure this party was stopped," he said. >> >> But partygoers said it was the police who turned violent, roughing up >> people for taking photos and asking to see a search warrant, said Kassia >> Korkus, 23. >> >> "I feel they knew it was a politically motivated party, and that fueled >> their aggressiveness toward the attendees," Korkus said. >> >> The party began as a way to raise cash for legal help needed by protesters >> arrested last fall at San Francisco State University and campuses of the >> University of California, where students occupied buildings to protest >> tuition increases and layoffs. Campuses have dropped most charges. But >> partygoers said they expect more activists to be arrested when >> demonstrations heat up again in March. >> >> It wasn't clear how much money was collected at the party, where many >> people paid up to $5 each to attend. >> >> Jared Aldrich, 32, a student at Laney College in Oakland, said he was the >> first person arrested at the party and now faces misdemeanors for >> resisting >> arrest, delaying an officer and battery. >> >> "I don't know what that's about because I'm the one with the broken arm," >> he said, adding that police threw him down and pulled two fingers back to >> his wrist. He said his wrist is swollen and needs an X-ray. >> >> Sam Brown, 22, said he left when he saw people in plainclothes that he and >> others took to be police shove partygoers against the wall, swear at them >> and demand to know who was in charge. >> >> "I was very shaken up," Brown said. >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > -- "We can't pay and we wouldn't pay. Even if I had the money I would rather burn everything I owned, and I wouldn't even give them the ashes." PirateBay FTW --0016364d21357a9e4d047ea9e7d9-- From sfraves-return-151840-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 05 04:02:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 90963 invoked by uid 1103); 5 Feb 2010 04:02:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 90922 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2010 04:02:15 -0000 Message-ID: <4B6B9843.5080906@sonic.net> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 20:02:11 -0800 From: Shatter User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nyc Labrets CC: sfr@djproxy.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org References: <4afde872254c53b862e6a9c3e9af4a34@activepassive.net> <4B68DFC5.6000505@sonic.net> <7237bf9f1002021935y762cdfaft23f3e6153bb9e1e9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7237bf9f1002021935y762cdfaft23f3e6153bb9e1e9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? Let me rephrase, since the address was given and it certainly wasn't an out door summer festival... "Assholes" bring fireworks to an indoor party. I don't even consider an M-80 a firework. It's an explosive, 1/8 stick of dynamite IIRC. Fire crackers, lady fingers, some bottle rockets. Those are fire works. Fun fire show or pop pop fun. Not something that can damage a limb or kill at close range. There are many levels of "not cool" and tossing M-80's around indoor ranks pretty high on that scale. Nyc Labrets wrote: > On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Shatter wrote: > > >> The answer you are looking for is "Assholes" >> >> "Assholes" bring fireworks to a party. >> > > > Umm, starting with the Chinese, fireworks have been used at parties for > *thousands* of years. > > Waiting until cops show up to enforce fucked up Laws, created by fun-hating > assholes, to set off fireworks, shows a profound lack of judgment. > > You must be a charming dinner guest. > > >> >> >> sfr@djproxy.com wrote: >> >> >>> What the hell? People throwing M80's at cops?!? Who brings fireworks to >>> parties?!??! >>> >>> >>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/c/a/2010/01/31/BAQ81BQGPC.DTL >>> >>> A dance party to raise money for the legal defense of student protesters >>> turned violent in San Francisco early Sunday morning, as police arrested >>> 11 >>> people at a building South of Market. >>> >>> Ten people were cited and released for misdemeanors, including public >>> drunkenness, said Officer Samson Chan of the San Francisco Police >>> Department. >>> >>> A 23-year-old man remains in jail after police said he threw a large M-80 >>> firecracker, barely missing an officer. He faces felony charges of >>> aggravated assault. >>> >>> Police went to 154 Seventh St. around 1 a.m. after neighbors complained of >>> noise, Chan said, and the fire marshal couldn't get inside the party >>> attended by several hundred. >>> >>> When some started throwing bottles and firecrackers, "there was no other >>> choice but to make sure this party was stopped," he said. >>> >>> But partygoers said it was the police who turned violent, roughing up >>> people for taking photos and asking to see a search warrant, said Kassia >>> Korkus, 23. >>> >>> "I feel they knew it was a politically motivated party, and that fueled >>> their aggressiveness toward the attendees," Korkus said. >>> >>> The party began as a way to raise cash for legal help needed by protesters >>> arrested last fall at San Francisco State University and campuses of the >>> University of California, where students occupied buildings to protest >>> tuition increases and layoffs. Campuses have dropped most charges. But >>> partygoers said they expect more activists to be arrested when >>> demonstrations heat up again in March. >>> >>> It wasn't clear how much money was collected at the party, where many >>> people paid up to $5 each to attend. >>> >>> Jared Aldrich, 32, a student at Laney College in Oakland, said he was the >>> first person arrested at the party and now faces misdemeanors for >>> resisting >>> arrest, delaying an officer and battery. >>> >>> "I don't know what that's about because I'm the one with the broken arm," >>> he said, adding that police threw him down and pulled two fingers back to >>> his wrist. He said his wrist is swollen and needs an X-ray. >>> >>> Sam Brown, 22, said he left when he saw people in plainclothes that he and >>> others took to be police shove partygoers against the wall, swear at them >>> and demand to know who was in charge. >>> >>> "I was very shaken up," Brown said. >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151841-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 05 04:04:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 93318 invoked by uid 1103); 5 Feb 2010 04:04:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 93213 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2010 04:04:49 -0000 Cc: Nyc Labrets , sfr@djproxy.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: From: Jas Strong To: Shatter In-Reply-To: <4B6B9843.5080906@sonic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 20:04:44 -0800 References: <4afde872254c53b862e6a9c3e9af4a34@activepassive.net> <4B68DFC5.6000505@sonic.net> <7237bf9f1002021935y762cdfaft23f3e6153bb9e1e9@mail.gmail.com> <4B6B9843.5080906@sonic.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? The things you get that they call "M-80s" are not even close to 1/8 stick of dynamite. They're just big firecrackers. Dynamite is high explosive and several orders of magnitude more brissant than any firework (or even training munition), for good reason. -J., former explosives tech On 4 Feb 2010, at 20:02, Shatter wrote: > Let me rephrase, since the address was given and it certainly wasn't > an out door summer festival... > > > "Assholes" bring fireworks to an indoor party. > > I don't even consider an M-80 a firework. It's an explosive, 1/8 > stick of dynamite IIRC. Fire crackers, lady fingers, some bottle > rockets. Those are fire works. Fun fire show or pop pop fun. Not > something that can damage a limb or kill at close range. > > There are many levels of "not cool" and tossing M-80's around indoor > ranks pretty high on that scale. > > Nyc Labrets wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Shatter wrote: >> >> >>> The answer you are looking for is "Assholes" >>> >>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to a party. >>> >> >> >> Umm, starting with the Chinese, fireworks have been used at parties >> for >> *thousands* of years. >> >> Waiting until cops show up to enforce fucked up Laws, created by >> fun-hating >> assholes, to set off fireworks, shows a profound lack of judgment. >> >> You must be a charming dinner guest. >> >> >>> >>> >>> sfr@djproxy.com wrote: >>> >>> >>>> What the hell? People throwing M80's at cops?!? Who brings >>>> fireworks to >>>> parties?!??! >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/c/a/2010/01/31/BAQ81BQGPC.DTL >>>> >>>> A dance party to raise money for the legal defense of student >>>> protesters >>>> turned violent in San Francisco early Sunday morning, as police >>>> arrested >>>> 11 >>>> people at a building South of Market. >>>> >>>> Ten people were cited and released for misdemeanors, including >>>> public >>>> drunkenness, said Officer Samson Chan of the San Francisco Police >>>> Department. >>>> >>>> A 23-year-old man remains in jail after police said he threw a >>>> large M-80 >>>> firecracker, barely missing an officer. He faces felony charges of >>>> aggravated assault. >>>> >>>> Police went to 154 Seventh St. around 1 a.m. after neighbors >>>> complained of >>>> noise, Chan said, and the fire marshal couldn't get inside the >>>> party >>>> attended by several hundred. >>>> >>>> When some started throwing bottles and firecrackers, "there was >>>> no other >>>> choice but to make sure this party was stopped," he said. >>>> >>>> But partygoers said it was the police who turned violent, >>>> roughing up >>>> people for taking photos and asking to see a search warrant, said >>>> Kassia >>>> Korkus, 23. >>>> >>>> "I feel they knew it was a politically motivated party, and that >>>> fueled >>>> their aggressiveness toward the attendees," Korkus said. >>>> >>>> The party began as a way to raise cash for legal help needed by >>>> protesters >>>> arrested last fall at San Francisco State University and campuses >>>> of the >>>> University of California, where students occupied buildings to >>>> protest >>>> tuition increases and layoffs. Campuses have dropped most >>>> charges. But >>>> partygoers said they expect more activists to be arrested when >>>> demonstrations heat up again in March. >>>> >>>> It wasn't clear how much money was collected at the party, where >>>> many >>>> people paid up to $5 each to attend. >>>> >>>> Jared Aldrich, 32, a student at Laney College in Oakland, said he >>>> was the >>>> first person arrested at the party and now faces misdemeanors for >>>> resisting >>>> arrest, delaying an officer and battery. >>>> >>>> "I don't know what that's about because I'm the one with the >>>> broken arm," >>>> he said, adding that police threw him down and pulled two fingers >>>> back to >>>> his wrist. He said his wrist is swollen and needs an X-ray. >>>> >>>> Sam Brown, 22, said he left when he saw people in plainclothes >>>> that he and >>>> others took to be police shove partygoers against the wall, swear >>>> at them >>>> and demand to know who was in charge. >>>> >>>> "I was very shaken up," Brown said. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151842-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 06 00:56:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60439 invoked by uid 1103); 6 Feb 2010 00:56:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60416 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2010 00:56:04 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=TxE9r9FZ8KJzy2fPUfOtqiywkJVuM0L4FwvyDp9xex8=; b=MMUV6IV3Khw3gUD0NBV7iFffqaZhOP0Nc+FeiN9Af6T7ac3s/SAG1f6L/YwWdsbsTW Y9tloh6uRLEPUrdMdqQ6hgyNKiVg1AU45BjX+cYF9kyat2z1qsdsxvy15UVibALS+WmH nWsr+IcnkYsAXqlkttZay2tubDj5Rpp7/klT8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=DDky+WHSLrrV1qHgj5hZYv2tW1D5LHx77/RS69hqa1QZUAHzQCuc9R+N/Dk/WwAvCa NMmGbXWxwX2Nrpgn2hB4PEVqX5b+92dDaU+OkRNLIkuE7iOgrIeMeueOok/2zNf3Titg Y1hMVAGut4+ZnoG7e0oCEz1M2n/AMsKuSNVz0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 16:56:03 -0800 Message-ID: <1c60b9301002051656p4c1ecdej8bf2b161f6d1ed21@mail.gmail.com> From: Greg Bird To: SFRaves Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd70d1c42eda5047ee40808 Subject: [sfraves] bsp: Saturday! [KONTROL] presents Dixon (Innervisions) + Seth Troxler (Spectral) --000e0cd70d1c42eda5047ee40808 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Saturday, February 6th, 2010 [ K O N T R O L ] minimal techno + avant house every 1st Saturday at The Endup featuring from Berlin: ::: DIXON ::: (Innervisions, Sonar Kollektiv, Get Physical, BBE) We first encountered Innervisions label boss Dixon at an after party for 2008's Decibel Festival, where his highly stylized take on deep house music, coupled with superior mixing skills and masterful programming, turned us all into believers. Taking the history of dance music and being able to turn it into something uniquely his own is a rare trait indeed, and perhaps one of the many reasons this dancefloor maestro was voted Resident Advisor's #6 DJ in the world for 2009. and from Detroit via Berlin: ::: SETH TROXLER ::: (Visionquest, Crosstown Rebels, Spectral Sound) (Wagon Repair, Wolf + Lamb, Circus Company) When we invited Seth Troxler to play for us back in 2008, he was a recent transplant to Berlin from Detroit, and a spirited young DJ very much on the rise. In the year and a half since, Seth's reputation for rocking parties has absolutely blown up worldwide, with him too securing a spot in RA's top DJs of 2009 at #8. Drawing equally from Detroit's rich history and Berlin's hedonistic party culture, Troxler's oft discussed sets are enthusiastic, sexy, and most of all, serious fun. with residents: ALLAND BYALLO (Nightlight . Liebe*Detail . Dirt Crew) http://www.myspace.com/alland CRAIG KUNA (Mothership . Platform . ESDJCO) http://www.myspace.com/craig1 SAMMY D (Classic . Dirtybird . Utensil . Magnificent 7) http://www.myspace.com/sammydoyle NIKOLA BAYTALA (S.W.A.T. . Robsoul . Junior Boys Own) http://www.myspace.com/nikolaswat _________________________________________________________ The ENDUP 401 6th St @ Harrison, SF 10pm - 6am / 21+ / $20 http://www.theendup.com FREE before 11pm! _________________________________________________________ Facebook Invite: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=3D269870193582 Flyer: http://www.kontrolsf.com/K56/K56H.jpg Poster: http://www.kontrolsf.com/K56/K56P.jpg _________________________________________________________ ::: DIXON ::: THE DJ: When Dixon entered the Berlin club circuit in the early 90=92s, he established his name on the strength of DJing. Back then, confidence or experience based on putting out mixes on the internet did not matter as muc= h as it does now. You had to do your practice, of course, but when your thing was good and tight enough to take it to the clubs, there were opportunities to do so. But those opportunities meant responsibilities. A residency did not mean playing the same club every once in a while, it meant playing the same club every week. The crowd did not consist of people that wander in an= d out of club nights and its guest DJs as the weekly hype commanded them, it consisted of people which headed straight to a certain club night because they were sure its resident DJ would deliver the goods this week as he did last week, and the next weeks to come. As long as that happened, there was no need to move on. You made your decision to return out of good experience and you stuck to it as long as it lasted. In such a context, there is no wa= y to learn quicker how to become a very good DJ than by making people dance throughout a set that lasts the whole night, on a very regular basis. If yo= u can=92t hold the crowd for hours then, you fall through. It is learning by doing, the hard way. Dixon did not only learn very quickly, he loved every moment of it. Starting out low, slow, unfolding the flow, working towards a peak, then working towards another, turning up, turning down, to find the exact point from which to swing moods, to find the perfect way to end what should be a lasting experience. Once you passed your exams in the night clu= b school of that era with distinction, you can rely on it forevermore, and Dixon surely did. His residencies then and now are obviously schooled on th= e stylistic and technical versatility and skills, attitude, stamina and experience based on countless nights honing ways to direct a loyal crowd on the dance floor at will. Hours spent to find and select the right music to achieve the levels of intensity necessary, hours spent to plan the imminent night=92s structure and proceedings, and then hours spent putting it into action. Dixon was always more than happy to spend this much time on his nights, because he takes his profession seriously. It is exactly what matters most to him. He has always been and he always will be a DJ first. This is the mission he embarked on, no end in sight. THE MIXES: Keeping all this in mind, it comes as no surprise that Dixon extended his merits beyond the club by a medium closely connected to the DJ craft. He compiled and mixed the Off Limits compilations, which became very popular and introduced his impeccable style of mixing to a public reception way beyond that of those who had already heard him play in a club context. Later he branched out to even more success by doing a highly influential mi= x compilation for the Get Physical label=92s Body Language series, a mix CD t= hat has inspired people all over the world. These releases were intended to sho= w the sincere dedication Dixon has to his profession, and they evidentially do. THE CLUBS: When DJ Dixon, as he then was known, entered the circuit in the early 90=92s, the music dominating Berlin=92s clubland was relentless. Thos= e were the days when the city=92s well documented legacy as techno mainstay w= as formed. Maybe surprising to some, Dixon delved into breakbeats first, and made his first appearances playing at events organized by Atari Teenage Riot. And he was a teenager himself. And teenagers tend to discover what they really want very quickly. And what dixon discovered was house. He very much totally fell in love with it. What Dixon also discovered was that his concept of house did not necessarily match the concept of house other DJs had, and it certainly did not match the relentlessness mentioned above. Dixon is a soul boy at heart, but he does not like his soul screaming in your face. He likes his soul true and pure. It was the first and not the last time that Dixon felt he did not really belong to the proceedings. His style of playing was too deep and stripped for the ruling garage pomp of th= e gay house scene, yet not banging enough to meet the demands of the techno ravers. Nevertheless, Dixon decided to stick to his idea of house, also the first but not the last time. And he was around, developing his skills and style at club legends like E-Werk, Tresor, Turbine and WMF=92s seminal audi= o video disco nights. In 2005, Dixon founded Inner City, a monthly night at Berlin=92s seminal Weekend Club that served to give Dixon back the opportun= ity to play like he could when he started out playing. It was obvious to anybod= y attending that the club was more than liberating. Dixon used the possibilities of his newly found freedom to full effect, constructing marathon sets that soothed the crowds, and later whipped them into a frenzy until sunrise and further. Soon the other Innervisions DJs as well as illustrious guest DJs joined the party, and Inner City became a guiding light for all things house, as attending clubbers, DJs and producers spread the word far beyond Berlin=92s city limits. =3D=3D=3D> LINKS: Website: http://www.innercityvisions.com/ Discography: http://www.discogs.com/artist/Dixon Myspace (w/ music samples): http://www.myspace.com/justdixon Juno Plus interview (w/ music): http://www.junodownload.com/plus/2010/01/07/dixon-interview/ =3D=3D=3D> AUDIO: Dixon - Live @ Trinity Nightclub, Seattle 2005: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3DPF1R5PIV =3D=3D=3D> VIDEO: Dixon - Live w/ Ame @ Awakenings Festival, Amsterdam 2009: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DyW9QV1UPEqU Dixon - Live @ Beyond Bookings Sunday loft party, Brooklyn 2009: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DvlX6k_QMHlo _________________________________________________________ ::: SETH TROXLER ::: Through a leaking bodily cavity resembling the pork found in Chinese restaurants, Satan shat out a crystal beaming with glowing red embers. This crystal matured into the fetus of Seth Troxler. Seth was placed on earth as a weeping fetus, the sound of inevitability. As he grew, his ancestral root= s took on a magnetic channeling power, more than his feeble mind could ever consciously fathom. As a result, he became capable of creating some of the world=92s finest and most intuitive dance cuts, including releases on Spectral, Items & Things (as Thrill Cosby), Circus Company, FXHE (Young Seth), Esperanza, Beretta Grey, Leftroom, and Dumb Unit. Through a preternatural understanding of rave, Seth conjours up mixes like Botticelli conjoured his Venus. He has played many outstanding internationa= l gigs, notably Panorama Bar, Watergate, Robert Johnson, Harry Kline, Batofar= , City Fox, The Rex and LA=92s Avalon, and NYC=92s Wolf + Lamb parties. He wa= s also a key conceptual force behind America=92s =93Tesh Club=94 now, =93Viss= ionquest=94 parties/production group with partners Ryan Crosson and Lee Curtiss. His musical influences include the chirping of crickets, the whirring of space ships, and the sweet sounds of whistling voodoo magic. However, Seth draws the majority of his inspiration from Robert Downey Jr., and the idea of releasing the shackles that bind Downey so he can finally do heroin in peace. On cold Detroit or Berlin evenings one can often witness Seth Troxler in hi= s front yard, situated beside an overly-cumbersome boombox in a nylon tracksuit, jacking his body to old Dancemania cuts and cooking BBQ. To be involved in such a happening, or eat any of his cooking for that matter, is truly magic. =3D=3D=3D> LINKS: Seth Troxler's discography: http://www.discogs.com/artist/Seth%20Troxler Seth Troxler on MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/sethtroxler Teshno.com Interview, August 2009: http://www.teshno.com/2009/08/seth-troxler-interview.html =3D=3D=3D> AUDIO: Live @ Busta Groove, Dice Club, Berlin 08.28.09: http://soundcloud.com/r_co/seth-troxler-live-busta-groove-dice-club-berlin-= 28-08-2009 =3D=3D=3D> VIDEO: Seth Troxler - Early morning @ Robert Johnson, Frankfurt 2009: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbzmiFnEK6Q4 Seth Troxler - Live @ [KONTROL] SF 09.06.08: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dzo78JKHMdN8 _________________________________________________________ http://www.kontrolsf.com http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=3D6631032340 --000e0cd70d1c42eda5047ee40808-- From sfraves-return-151843-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 06 01:20:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 84957 invoked by uid 1103); 6 Feb 2010 01:20:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 84939 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2010 01:20:48 -0000 Message-ID: <4B6CC3EC.3070409@sonic.net> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:20:44 -0800 From: Shatter User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jas Strong CC: Nyc Labrets , sfr@djproxy.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org References: <4afde872254c53b862e6a9c3e9af4a34@activepassive.net> <4B68DFC5.6000505@sonic.net> <7237bf9f1002021935y762cdfaft23f3e6153bb9e1e9@mail.gmail.com> <4B6B9843.5080906@sonic.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? I stand correct. I will let my time account for in accuracy. I was thinking of the M-100 and M-1000 I think the 1000 is equiv to 1.8 stick or something like that. M-80 will still mess you up though if not handled correctly. Jas Strong wrote: > > The things you get that they call "M-80s" are not even close to 1/8 > stick of dynamite. They're just big firecrackers. > > Dynamite is high explosive and several orders of magnitude more > brissant than any firework (or even training munition), for good reason. > > -J., > former explosives tech > > On 4 Feb 2010, at 20:02, Shatter wrote: > >> Let me rephrase, since the address was given and it certainly wasn't >> an out door summer festival... >> >> >> "Assholes" bring fireworks to an indoor party. >> >> I don't even consider an M-80 a firework. It's an explosive, 1/8 >> stick of dynamite IIRC. Fire crackers, lady fingers, some bottle >> rockets. Those are fire works. Fun fire show or pop pop fun. Not >> something that can damage a limb or kill at close range. >> >> There are many levels of "not cool" and tossing M-80's around indoor >> ranks pretty high on that scale. >> >> Nyc Labrets wrote: >>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Shatter wrote: >>> >>> >>>> The answer you are looking for is "Assholes" >>>> >>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to a party. >>>> >>> >>> >>> Umm, starting with the Chinese, fireworks have been used at parties for >>> *thousands* of years. >>> >>> Waiting until cops show up to enforce fucked up Laws, created by >>> fun-hating >>> assholes, to set off fireworks, shows a profound lack of judgment. >>> >>> You must be a charming dinner guest. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> sfr@djproxy.com wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> What the hell? People throwing M80's at cops?!? Who brings >>>>> fireworks to >>>>> parties?!??! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/c/a/2010/01/31/BAQ81BQGPC.DTL >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> A dance party to raise money for the legal defense of student >>>>> protesters >>>>> turned violent in San Francisco early Sunday morning, as police >>>>> arrested >>>>> 11 >>>>> people at a building South of Market. >>>>> >>>>> Ten people were cited and released for misdemeanors, including public >>>>> drunkenness, said Officer Samson Chan of the San Francisco Police >>>>> Department. >>>>> >>>>> A 23-year-old man remains in jail after police said he threw a >>>>> large M-80 >>>>> firecracker, barely missing an officer. He faces felony charges of >>>>> aggravated assault. >>>>> >>>>> Police went to 154 Seventh St. around 1 a.m. after neighbors >>>>> complained of >>>>> noise, Chan said, and the fire marshal couldn't get inside the party >>>>> attended by several hundred. >>>>> >>>>> When some started throwing bottles and firecrackers, "there was no >>>>> other >>>>> choice but to make sure this party was stopped," he said. >>>>> >>>>> But partygoers said it was the police who turned violent, roughing up >>>>> people for taking photos and asking to see a search warrant, said >>>>> Kassia >>>>> Korkus, 23. >>>>> >>>>> "I feel they knew it was a politically motivated party, and that >>>>> fueled >>>>> their aggressiveness toward the attendees," Korkus said. >>>>> >>>>> The party began as a way to raise cash for legal help needed by >>>>> protesters >>>>> arrested last fall at San Francisco State University and campuses >>>>> of the >>>>> University of California, where students occupied buildings to >>>>> protest >>>>> tuition increases and layoffs. Campuses have dropped most charges. >>>>> But >>>>> partygoers said they expect more activists to be arrested when >>>>> demonstrations heat up again in March. >>>>> >>>>> It wasn't clear how much money was collected at the party, where many >>>>> people paid up to $5 each to attend. >>>>> >>>>> Jared Aldrich, 32, a student at Laney College in Oakland, said he >>>>> was the >>>>> first person arrested at the party and now faces misdemeanors for >>>>> resisting >>>>> arrest, delaying an officer and battery. >>>>> >>>>> "I don't know what that's about because I'm the one with the >>>>> broken arm," >>>>> he said, adding that police threw him down and pulled two fingers >>>>> back to >>>>> his wrist. He said his wrist is swollen and needs an X-ray. >>>>> >>>>> Sam Brown, 22, said he left when he saw people in plainclothes >>>>> that he and >>>>> others took to be police shove partygoers against the wall, swear >>>>> at them >>>>> and demand to know who was in charge. >>>>> >>>>> "I was very shaken up," Brown said. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151844-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 06 01:33:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 97981 invoked by uid 1103); 6 Feb 2010 01:33:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 97931 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2010 01:33:54 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: B6xikByswBBw2dcCrYo09aIg7vLNM56B87ozoQ0ioddLuQ-- X-YMail-OSG: cB1EXsQVM1lwwchqTXBM_gQM56Klx1d0SRVvjZBwAeFD6IHmzRGJBycOWiLPD9ktYVcH3YI9DfGigiV5OG2XWd98xIfCkv5FflI4wTXCk6PTlZeehrWF1BPw4KjLZGfH8yxNDlnDM.lrw8Qc182_6uu4be3r_FdTdSvUZ_LHAaTBacoCxcSkTXlfSjvTFKNOU8c8nlo6JEWISBGQdmJ8bxR8_EWUl8XeGt14Lxk89hlJTCZSGSsmgHEb8Nl3sVFfxVmD5Z05Gp0rzHD4ZXOAfqWRZCzEsx740O1NdRVvGqqE95CgWtHzHHf5P0PyDXDM05dLmn6.vo.ZxBYILppR5NOsyYrLkjhPGu6i_pfIkX6QBEGA2svNrx5r6ieZTHrgtVBElKRdC2Ze6Y.UNUVjI8uPvSCp_QZDdED.bH.x6VE0 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-Id: From: Deepfog To: The Twilight Laser Outpost (West) In-Reply-To: <4B6CC3EC.3070409@sonic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:33:52 -0800 References: <4afde872254c53b862e6a9c3e9af4a34@activepassive.net> <4B68DFC5.6000505@sonic.net> <7237bf9f1002021935y762cdfaft23f3e6153bb9e1e9@mail.gmail.com> <4B6B9843.5080906@sonic.net> <4B6CC3EC.3070409@sonic.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? OK, well on to the problem here. I logged into the server and I see a lot of 644's. The files represent people at the party. OK, we need to be very liberal about making all ravers 755. That is, if throwing parties in San Francisco is something that interests you. No need to wait for any local activist groups to do anything, this can be a headless coup. On Feb 5, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Shatter wrote: > I stand correct. > > I will let my time account for in accuracy. I was thinking of the > M-100 and M-1000 I think the 1000 is equiv to 1.8 stick or > something like that. > > M-80 will still mess you up though if not handled correctly. > > > > Jas Strong wrote: >> >> The things you get that they call "M-80s" are not even close to 1/8 >> stick of dynamite. They're just big firecrackers. >> >> Dynamite is high explosive and several orders of magnitude more >> brissant than any firework (or even training munition), for good >> reason. >> >> -J., >> former explosives tech >> >> On 4 Feb 2010, at 20:02, Shatter wrote: >> >>> Let me rephrase, since the address was given and it certainly >>> wasn't an out door summer festival... >>> >>> >>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to an indoor party. >>> >>> I don't even consider an M-80 a firework. It's an explosive, 1/8 >>> stick of dynamite IIRC. Fire crackers, lady fingers, some bottle >>> rockets. Those are fire works. Fun fire show or pop pop fun. >>> Not something that can damage a limb or kill at close range. >>> >>> There are many levels of "not cool" and tossing M-80's around >>> indoor ranks pretty high on that scale. >>> >>> Nyc Labrets wrote: >>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Shatter wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> The answer you are looking for is "Assholes" >>>>> >>>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to a party. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Umm, starting with the Chinese, fireworks have been used at >>>> parties for >>>> *thousands* of years. >>>> >>>> Waiting until cops show up to enforce fucked up Laws, created by >>>> fun-hating >>>> assholes, to set off fireworks, shows a profound lack of judgment. >>>> >>>> You must be a charming dinner guest. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> sfr@djproxy.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> What the hell? People throwing M80's at cops?!? Who brings >>>>>> fireworks to >>>>>> parties?!??! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/c/a/2010/01/31/BAQ81BQGPC.DTL >>>>>> >>>>>> A dance party to raise money for the legal defense of student >>>>>> protesters >>>>>> turned violent in San Francisco early Sunday morning, as police >>>>>> arrested >>>>>> 11 >>>>>> people at a building South of Market. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ten people were cited and released for misdemeanors, including >>>>>> public >>>>>> drunkenness, said Officer Samson Chan of the San Francisco Police >>>>>> Department. >>>>>> >>>>>> A 23-year-old man remains in jail after police said he threw a >>>>>> large M-80 >>>>>> firecracker, barely missing an officer. He faces felony charges >>>>>> of >>>>>> aggravated assault. >>>>>> >>>>>> Police went to 154 Seventh St. around 1 a.m. after neighbors >>>>>> complained of >>>>>> noise, Chan said, and the fire marshal couldn't get inside the >>>>>> party >>>>>> attended by several hundred. >>>>>> >>>>>> When some started throwing bottles and firecrackers, "there was >>>>>> no other >>>>>> choice but to make sure this party was stopped," he said. >>>>>> >>>>>> But partygoers said it was the police who turned violent, >>>>>> roughing up >>>>>> people for taking photos and asking to see a search warrant, >>>>>> said Kassia >>>>>> Korkus, 23. >>>>>> >>>>>> "I feel they knew it was a politically motivated party, and >>>>>> that fueled >>>>>> their aggressiveness toward the attendees," Korkus said. >>>>>> >>>>>> The party began as a way to raise cash for legal help needed by >>>>>> protesters >>>>>> arrested last fall at San Francisco State University and >>>>>> campuses of the >>>>>> University of California, where students occupied buildings to >>>>>> protest >>>>>> tuition increases and layoffs. Campuses have dropped most >>>>>> charges. But >>>>>> partygoers said they expect more activists to be arrested when >>>>>> demonstrations heat up again in March. >>>>>> >>>>>> It wasn't clear how much money was collected at the party, >>>>>> where many >>>>>> people paid up to $5 each to attend. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jared Aldrich, 32, a student at Laney College in Oakland, said >>>>>> he was the >>>>>> first person arrested at the party and now faces misdemeanors for >>>>>> resisting >>>>>> arrest, delaying an officer and battery. >>>>>> >>>>>> "I don't know what that's about because I'm the one with the >>>>>> broken arm," >>>>>> he said, adding that police threw him down and pulled two >>>>>> fingers back to >>>>>> his wrist. He said his wrist is swollen and needs an X-ray. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sam Brown, 22, said he left when he saw people in plainclothes >>>>>> that he and >>>>>> others took to be police shove partygoers against the wall, >>>>>> swear at them >>>>>> and demand to know who was in charge. >>>>>> >>>>>> "I was very shaken up," Brown said. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>> >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151845-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 06 03:18:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 98029 invoked by uid 1103); 6 Feb 2010 03:18:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 97866 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2010 03:18:43 -0000 Message-ID: <4B6CDF72.3080504@sonic.net> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 19:18:10 -0800 From: Shatter User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Deepfog CC: "The Twilight Laser Outpost (West)" References: <4afde872254c53b862e6a9c3e9af4a34@activepassive.net> <4B68DFC5.6000505@sonic.net> <7237bf9f1002021935y762cdfaft23f3e6153bb9e1e9@mail.gmail.com> <4B6B9843.5080906@sonic.net> <4B6CC3EC.3070409@sonic.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? There's two things though that can get in the way of this: Officer Bertrand Officer Ott I am tired of people that feel they need a reason to have a party, especially "fundraisers" because let's be honest, isn't every party a fundraiser to some extent? Fight Night 2 is happening tonight. Should be cool. Deepfog wrote: > OK, well on to the problem here. I logged into the server and I see a > lot of 644's. The files represent people at the party. OK, we need to > be very liberal about making all ravers 755. That is, if throwing > parties in San Francisco is something that interests you. No need to > wait for any local activist groups to do anything, this can be a > headless coup. > > > On Feb 5, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Shatter wrote: > >> I stand correct. >> >> I will let my time account for in accuracy. I was thinking of the >> M-100 and M-1000 I think the 1000 is equiv to 1.8 stick or >> something like that. >> >> M-80 will still mess you up though if not handled correctly. >> >> >> >> Jas Strong wrote: >>> >>> The things you get that they call "M-80s" are not even close to 1/8 >>> stick of dynamite. They're just big firecrackers. >>> >>> Dynamite is high explosive and several orders of magnitude more >>> brissant than any firework (or even training munition), for good >>> reason. >>> >>> -J., >>> former explosives tech >>> >>> On 4 Feb 2010, at 20:02, Shatter wrote: >>> >>>> Let me rephrase, since the address was given and it certainly >>>> wasn't an out door summer festival... >>>> >>>> >>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to an indoor party. >>>> >>>> I don't even consider an M-80 a firework. It's an explosive, 1/8 >>>> stick of dynamite IIRC. Fire crackers, lady fingers, some bottle >>>> rockets. Those are fire works. Fun fire show or pop pop fun. Not >>>> something that can damage a limb or kill at close range. >>>> >>>> There are many levels of "not cool" and tossing M-80's around >>>> indoor ranks pretty high on that scale. >>>> >>>> Nyc Labrets wrote: >>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Shatter wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> The answer you are looking for is "Assholes" >>>>>> >>>>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to a party. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Umm, starting with the Chinese, fireworks have been used at >>>>> parties for >>>>> *thousands* of years. >>>>> >>>>> Waiting until cops show up to enforce fucked up Laws, created by >>>>> fun-hating >>>>> assholes, to set off fireworks, shows a profound lack of judgment. >>>>> >>>>> You must be a charming dinner guest. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> sfr@djproxy.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> What the hell? People throwing M80's at cops?!? Who brings >>>>>>> fireworks to >>>>>>> parties?!??! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/c/a/2010/01/31/BAQ81BQGPC.DTL >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A dance party to raise money for the legal defense of student >>>>>>> protesters >>>>>>> turned violent in San Francisco early Sunday morning, as police >>>>>>> arrested >>>>>>> 11 >>>>>>> people at a building South of Market. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ten people were cited and released for misdemeanors, including >>>>>>> public >>>>>>> drunkenness, said Officer Samson Chan of the San Francisco Police >>>>>>> Department. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A 23-year-old man remains in jail after police said he threw a >>>>>>> large M-80 >>>>>>> firecracker, barely missing an officer. He faces felony charges of >>>>>>> aggravated assault. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Police went to 154 Seventh St. around 1 a.m. after neighbors >>>>>>> complained of >>>>>>> noise, Chan said, and the fire marshal couldn't get inside the >>>>>>> party >>>>>>> attended by several hundred. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When some started throwing bottles and firecrackers, "there was >>>>>>> no other >>>>>>> choice but to make sure this party was stopped," he said. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But partygoers said it was the police who turned violent, >>>>>>> roughing up >>>>>>> people for taking photos and asking to see a search warrant, >>>>>>> said Kassia >>>>>>> Korkus, 23. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "I feel they knew it was a politically motivated party, and that >>>>>>> fueled >>>>>>> their aggressiveness toward the attendees," Korkus said. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The party began as a way to raise cash for legal help needed by >>>>>>> protesters >>>>>>> arrested last fall at San Francisco State University and >>>>>>> campuses of the >>>>>>> University of California, where students occupied buildings to >>>>>>> protest >>>>>>> tuition increases and layoffs. Campuses have dropped most >>>>>>> charges. But >>>>>>> partygoers said they expect more activists to be arrested when >>>>>>> demonstrations heat up again in March. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It wasn't clear how much money was collected at the party, where >>>>>>> many >>>>>>> people paid up to $5 each to attend. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jared Aldrich, 32, a student at Laney College in Oakland, said >>>>>>> he was the >>>>>>> first person arrested at the party and now faces misdemeanors for >>>>>>> resisting >>>>>>> arrest, delaying an officer and battery. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "I don't know what that's about because I'm the one with the >>>>>>> broken arm," >>>>>>> he said, adding that police threw him down and pulled two >>>>>>> fingers back to >>>>>>> his wrist. He said his wrist is swollen and needs an X-ray. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sam Brown, 22, said he left when he saw people in plainclothes >>>>>>> that he and >>>>>>> others took to be police shove partygoers against the wall, >>>>>>> swear at them >>>>>>> and demand to know who was in charge. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "I was very shaken up," Brown said. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>> >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151846-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 06 03:38:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13920 invoked by uid 1103); 6 Feb 2010 03:38:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13895 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2010 03:38:36 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: B6xikByswBBw2dcCrYo09aIg7vLNM56B87ozoQ0ioddLuQ-- X-YMail-OSG: zIYDSZcVM1k.WsxXJVyN8_cX1v6eK7N.qCOfZxgIA.Z74Rn7x18aVjFlhCBaNkORwZsD_Kv0mfo7u7HWkWbGnY7wiPKLgDT5Zp1JI2A0nfuKVg3XZk.v2CKSdPQT6H6LjkselBumeOXrIcaYDjiC6p1UtX4VtBdVmGLD8s1JmqL2afrcpoGVNE6AC87syP3q4zeXIw8_mtccx.l6bwQJKMUdKiZi9zPupZAmx08H32TFJnUBm5VHmA3eExFC6Zmt9gKva38H5SESaL_xZO4Clj_EDkQuCloyDLdEmta50Bx7kwrmPS80HlkIHW2ulDQXWuvfEjXYeZvSWoS7w.ieFg7fGgcyD_0Lwh6YgFglgxmydcULnsLbw0_q6iOxBXsPchfTTbykM4u.T0ly9JRuz_R0NVKsd5jNQKW2DblJ1Vl4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-Id: <5AE4CB19-9156-4403-877F-2840243632D6@deepfog.com> From: Deepfog To: "The Twilight Laser Outpost \(West\)" In-Reply-To: <4B6CDF72.3080504@sonic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 19:38:34 -0800 References: <4afde872254c53b862e6a9c3e9af4a34@activepassive.net> <4B68DFC5.6000505@sonic.net> <7237bf9f1002021935y762cdfaft23f3e6153bb9e1e9@mail.gmail.com> <4B6B9843.5080906@sonic.net> <4B6CC3EC.3070409@sonic.net> <4B6CDF72.3080504@sonic.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? Oh, oops. I got that the wrong way. I meant to say a lot of 477's. 755 is usually best for mass activism. Wouldn't you agree? On Feb 5, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Shatter wrote: > There's two things though that can get in the way of this: > > Officer Bertrand > Officer Ott > > I am tired of people that feel they need a reason to have a party, > especially "fundraisers" because let's be honest, isn't every party > a fundraiser to some extent? Fight Night 2 is happening tonight. > Should be cool. > > > > > Deepfog wrote: >> OK, well on to the problem here. I logged into the server and I see >> a lot of 644's. The files represent people at the party. OK, we >> need to be very liberal about making all ravers 755. That is, if >> throwing parties in San Francisco is something that interests you. >> No need to wait for any local activist groups to do anything, this >> can be a headless coup. >> >> >> On Feb 5, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Shatter wrote: >> >>> I stand correct. >>> >>> I will let my time account for in accuracy. I was thinking of the >>> M-100 and M-1000 I think the 1000 is equiv to 1.8 stick or >>> something like that. >>> >>> M-80 will still mess you up though if not handled correctly. >>> >>> >>> >>> Jas Strong wrote: >>>> >>>> The things you get that they call "M-80s" are not even close to >>>> 1/8 stick of dynamite. They're just big firecrackers. >>>> >>>> Dynamite is high explosive and several orders of magnitude more >>>> brissant than any firework (or even training munition), for good >>>> reason. >>>> >>>> -J., >>>> former explosives tech >>>> >>>> On 4 Feb 2010, at 20:02, Shatter wrote: >>>> >>>>> Let me rephrase, since the address was given and it certainly >>>>> wasn't an out door summer festival... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to an indoor party. >>>>> >>>>> I don't even consider an M-80 a firework. It's an explosive, >>>>> 1/8 stick of dynamite IIRC. Fire crackers, lady fingers, some >>>>> bottle rockets. Those are fire works. Fun fire show or pop pop >>>>> fun. Not something that can damage a limb or kill at close range. >>>>> >>>>> There are many levels of "not cool" and tossing M-80's around >>>>> indoor ranks pretty high on that scale. >>>>> >>>>> Nyc Labrets wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Shatter >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> The answer you are looking for is "Assholes" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to a party. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Umm, starting with the Chinese, fireworks have been used at >>>>>> parties for >>>>>> *thousands* of years. >>>>>> >>>>>> Waiting until cops show up to enforce fucked up Laws, created >>>>>> by fun-hating >>>>>> assholes, to set off fireworks, shows a profound lack of >>>>>> judgment. >>>>>> >>>>>> You must be a charming dinner guest. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> sfr@djproxy.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What the hell? People throwing M80's at cops?!? Who brings >>>>>>>> fireworks to >>>>>>>> parties?!??! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/c/a/2010/01/31/BAQ81BQGPC.DTL >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A dance party to raise money for the legal defense of student >>>>>>>> protesters >>>>>>>> turned violent in San Francisco early Sunday morning, as >>>>>>>> police arrested >>>>>>>> 11 >>>>>>>> people at a building South of Market. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ten people were cited and released for misdemeanors, >>>>>>>> including public >>>>>>>> drunkenness, said Officer Samson Chan of the San Francisco >>>>>>>> Police >>>>>>>> Department. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A 23-year-old man remains in jail after police said he threw >>>>>>>> a large M-80 >>>>>>>> firecracker, barely missing an officer. He faces felony >>>>>>>> charges of >>>>>>>> aggravated assault. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Police went to 154 Seventh St. around 1 a.m. after neighbors >>>>>>>> complained of >>>>>>>> noise, Chan said, and the fire marshal couldn't get inside >>>>>>>> the party >>>>>>>> attended by several hundred. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When some started throwing bottles and firecrackers, "there >>>>>>>> was no other >>>>>>>> choice but to make sure this party was stopped," he said. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But partygoers said it was the police who turned violent, >>>>>>>> roughing up >>>>>>>> people for taking photos and asking to see a search warrant, >>>>>>>> said Kassia >>>>>>>> Korkus, 23. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "I feel they knew it was a politically motivated party, and >>>>>>>> that fueled >>>>>>>> their aggressiveness toward the attendees," Korkus said. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The party began as a way to raise cash for legal help needed >>>>>>>> by protesters >>>>>>>> arrested last fall at San Francisco State University and >>>>>>>> campuses of the >>>>>>>> University of California, where students occupied buildings >>>>>>>> to protest >>>>>>>> tuition increases and layoffs. Campuses have dropped most >>>>>>>> charges. But >>>>>>>> partygoers said they expect more activists to be arrested when >>>>>>>> demonstrations heat up again in March. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It wasn't clear how much money was collected at the party, >>>>>>>> where many >>>>>>>> people paid up to $5 each to attend. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jared Aldrich, 32, a student at Laney College in Oakland, >>>>>>>> said he was the >>>>>>>> first person arrested at the party and now faces misdemeanors >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> resisting >>>>>>>> arrest, delaying an officer and battery. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "I don't know what that's about because I'm the one with the >>>>>>>> broken arm," >>>>>>>> he said, adding that police threw him down and pulled two >>>>>>>> fingers back to >>>>>>>> his wrist. He said his wrist is swollen and needs an X-ray. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sam Brown, 22, said he left when he saw people in >>>>>>>> plainclothes that he and >>>>>>>> others took to be police shove partygoers against the wall, >>>>>>>> swear at them >>>>>>>> and demand to know who was in charge. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "I was very shaken up," Brown said. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151847-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 06 04:10:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 39450 invoked by uid 1103); 6 Feb 2010 04:10:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 39433 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2010 04:10:10 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=e38D1NxQAHWi7e5Rz64kb3ly0NBNT6RoOA0gOEF2Cq0=; b=MYYM3Csm8zATJj92zJ0f+B5Ct1LVazZXh4Vvv2e2XkgF731o1DHRq9pRD0FWnyOvvB FobQOXCEWzDYJKeVzMtGvoMsnZxq+dNROYQTUXgCoXQjsbaznHpNQ42GaggdKYpNWx9L Nf0bjw40Ggt/92AU9yx8v6Qi1/SKgFHlsNeXU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=bszYMVnb2PSTSstQWVX5CNiwoFvgr9sXo4iWmZcygc1KDG+Kjzc14IlcYo63sjQO67 ywiukkS7mZzatDuBczoIriOwL11+JQC/Yw1II6udccBJvmiWXwghEq9lcY2d/+VWT2Bm AFBTFRVP1/GITtCwMFs1xl7+Udcv2i4f7cV4w= Sender: Scott Solmonson Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Scott Solmonson In-Reply-To: <4B6CC3EC.3070409@sonic.net> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 20:10:05 -0800 Cc: Jas Strong , Nyc Labrets , sfr@djproxy.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <258DC8ED-3585-48F9-A2A6-055FDC957FCA@scosol.org> References: <4afde872254c53b862e6a9c3e9af4a34@activepassive.net> <4B68DFC5.6000505@sonic.net> <7237bf9f1002021935y762cdfaft23f3e6153bb9e1e9@mail.gmail.com> <4B6B9843.5080906@sonic.net> <4B6CC3EC.3070409@sonic.net> To: Shatter X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? Just to be clear- whatever you're describing as an M-**** has nothing at = all to do with dynamite or any other high explosive. You're being marketed to by whoever you got them from in Chinatown. Dynamite is used to blast tons of rock apart. Things lit with a fuse are made to make a loud noise. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salute_(pyrotechnics) -- NUNQUAM NON PARATUS V: 408.718.6290 On Feb 5, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Shatter wrote: > I stand correct. >=20 > I will let my time account for in accuracy. I was thinking of the = M-100 and M-1000 I think the 1000 is equiv to 1.8 stick or something = like that. >=20 > M-80 will still mess you up though if not handled correctly. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Jas Strong wrote: >>=20 >> The things you get that they call "M-80s" are not even close to 1/8 = stick of dynamite. They're just big firecrackers. >>=20 >> Dynamite is high explosive and several orders of magnitude more = brissant than any firework (or even training munition), for good reason. >>=20 >> -J., >> former explosives tech >>=20 >> On 4 Feb 2010, at 20:02, Shatter wrote: >>=20 >>> Let me rephrase, since the address was given and it certainly wasn't = an out door summer festival... >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to an indoor party. >>>=20 >>> I don't even consider an M-80 a firework. It's an explosive, 1/8 = stick of dynamite IIRC. Fire crackers, lady fingers, some bottle = rockets. Those are fire works. Fun fire show or pop pop fun. Not = something that can damage a limb or kill at close range. >>>=20 >>> There are many levels of "not cool" and tossing M-80's around indoor = ranks pretty high on that scale. >>>=20 >>> Nyc Labrets wrote: >>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Shatter wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> The answer you are looking for is "Assholes" >>>>>=20 >>>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to a party. >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Umm, starting with the Chinese, fireworks have been used at parties = for >>>> *thousands* of years. >>>>=20 >>>> Waiting until cops show up to enforce fucked up Laws, created by = fun-hating >>>> assholes, to set off fireworks, shows a profound lack of judgment. >>>>=20 >>>> You must be a charming dinner guest. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> sfr@djproxy.com wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>> What the hell? People throwing M80's at cops?!? Who brings = fireworks to >>>>>> parties?!??! >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> = http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=3D/c/a/2010/01/31/BAQ81BQG= PC.DTL=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> A dance party to raise money for the legal defense of student = protesters >>>>>> turned violent in San Francisco early Sunday morning, as police = arrested >>>>>> 11 >>>>>> people at a building South of Market. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Ten people were cited and released for misdemeanors, including = public >>>>>> drunkenness, said Officer Samson Chan of the San Francisco Police >>>>>> Department. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> A 23-year-old man remains in jail after police said he threw a = large M-80 >>>>>> firecracker, barely missing an officer. He faces felony charges = of >>>>>> aggravated assault. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Police went to 154 Seventh St. around 1 a.m. after neighbors = complained of >>>>>> noise, Chan said, and the fire marshal couldn't get inside the = party >>>>>> attended by several hundred. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> When some started throwing bottles and firecrackers, "there was = no other >>>>>> choice but to make sure this party was stopped," he said. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> But partygoers said it was the police who turned violent, = roughing up >>>>>> people for taking photos and asking to see a search warrant, said = Kassia >>>>>> Korkus, 23. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> "I feel they knew it was a politically motivated party, and that = fueled >>>>>> their aggressiveness toward the attendees," Korkus said. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> The party began as a way to raise cash for legal help needed by = protesters >>>>>> arrested last fall at San Francisco State University and campuses = of the >>>>>> University of California, where students occupied buildings to = protest >>>>>> tuition increases and layoffs. Campuses have dropped most = charges. But >>>>>> partygoers said they expect more activists to be arrested when >>>>>> demonstrations heat up again in March. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> It wasn't clear how much money was collected at the party, where = many >>>>>> people paid up to $5 each to attend. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Jared Aldrich, 32, a student at Laney College in Oakland, said he = was the >>>>>> first person arrested at the party and now faces misdemeanors for >>>>>> resisting >>>>>> arrest, delaying an officer and battery. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> "I don't know what that's about because I'm the one with the = broken arm," >>>>>> he said, adding that police threw him down and pulled two fingers = back to >>>>>> his wrist. He said his wrist is swollen and needs an X-ray. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Sam Brown, 22, said he left when he saw people in plainclothes = that he and >>>>>> others took to be police shove partygoers against the wall, swear = at them >>>>>> and demand to know who was in charge. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> "I was very shaken up," Brown said. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> = --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>> = --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> = --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >=20 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151848-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 06 04:13:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 42010 invoked by uid 1103); 6 Feb 2010 04:13:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 41985 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2010 04:13:16 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ubuXBum7fJjdlxR92rlr5T1rcx0TLmc1q4esODzM8IU=; b=qE1AjivoMQxKx0ESqRR9fUTlrVh+nGh1SW56/0B1YmRVsf2mAS+FAn+CcgnqbL9sx8 bZx54z2CPDtbSPm2xeLkCgqrGWN3gB6sJ6NVdSC+CwwqjnC9zjq+A9JP2w52HwayqP1E qURPPIQTY40/rQSY8bz1WuAX/5mb2dr4eOwfs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=tP31kAO3ygX/6D3G9SyPwTFbmWwlTPfkRLxbeYLJ4HXQOASNS7DkBlrB5/P01Hyyua DkLDDAnD+Uwxjpm/lOPmBZSMkhkT075RG6iV1G7ZR/C/V2ElHNjaLvE++9J9s/xSfCY6 3yztLMEMz1DlSwOu8Z3BcqsL6xGLkMdvpfYAs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: mike.wertheim@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <5AE4CB19-9156-4403-877F-2840243632D6@deepfog.com> References: <4afde872254c53b862e6a9c3e9af4a34@activepassive.net> <4B68DFC5.6000505@sonic.net> <7237bf9f1002021935y762cdfaft23f3e6153bb9e1e9@mail.gmail.com> <4B6B9843.5080906@sonic.net> <4B6CC3EC.3070409@sonic.net> <4B6CDF72.3080504@sonic.net> <5AE4CB19-9156-4403-877F-2840243632D6@deepfog.com> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 20:13:11 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e511f8b0e58924dc Message-ID: From: Mike Wertheim To: Deepfog Cc: "The Twilight Laser Outpost (West)" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? I hate to display my ignorance, but... What do the numbers mean? (I imagine that perhaps they're related to UNIX filesystem permissions, but if that's actually the case, how do they relate to partygoers?) On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Deepfog wrote: > Oh, oops. I got that the wrong way. I meant to say a lot of 477's. 755 is > usually best for mass activism. Wouldn't you agree? > > > On Feb 5, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Shatter wrote: > >> There's two things though that can get in the way of this: >> >> Officer Bertrand >> Officer Ott >> >> I am tired of people that feel they need a reason to have a party, >> especially "fundraisers" because let's be honest, isn't every party a >> fundraiser to some extent? =A0Fight Night 2 is happening tonight. =A0Sho= uld be >> cool. >> >> >> >> >> Deepfog wrote: >>> >>> OK, well on to the problem here. I logged into the server and I see a l= ot >>> of 644's. The files represent people at the party. OK, we need to be ve= ry >>> liberal about making all ravers 755. That is, if throwing parties in Sa= n >>> Francisco is something that interests you. No need to wait for any loca= l >>> activist groups to do anything, this can be a headless coup. >>> >>> >>> On Feb 5, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Shatter wrote: >>> >>>> I stand correct. >>>> >>>> I will let my time account for in accuracy. =A0I was thinking of the M= -100 >>>> and M-1000 =A0 I think the 1000 is equiv to 1.8 stick or something lik= e that. >>>> >>>> M-80 will still mess you up though if not handled correctly. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Jas Strong wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The things you get that they call "M-80s" are not even close to 1/8 >>>>> stick of dynamite. =A0They're just big firecrackers. >>>>> >>>>> Dynamite is high explosive and several orders of magnitude more >>>>> brissant than any firework (or even training munition), for good reas= on. >>>>> >>>>> -J., >>>>> former explosives tech >>>>> >>>>> On 4 Feb 2010, at 20:02, Shatter wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Let me rephrase, since the address was given and it certainly wasn't >>>>>> an out door summer festival... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to an indoor party. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't even consider an M-80 a firework. =A0It's an explosive, 1/8 >>>>>> stick of dynamite IIRC. =A0Fire crackers, lady fingers, some bottle = rockets. >>>>>> =A0Those are fire works. =A0Fun fire show or pop pop fun. =A0Not som= ething that >>>>>> can damage a limb or kill at close range. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are many levels of "not cool" and tossing M-80's around indoor >>>>>> ranks pretty high on that scale. >>>>>> >>>>>> Nyc Labrets wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Shatter wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The answer you are looking for is "Assholes" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to a party. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Umm, starting with the Chinese, fireworks have been used at parties >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> *thousands* of years. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Waiting until cops show up to enforce fucked up Laws, created by >>>>>>> fun-hating >>>>>>> assholes, to set off fireworks, shows a profound lack of judgment. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You must be a charming dinner guest. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> sfr@djproxy.com wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What the hell? =A0People throwing M80's at cops?!? =A0Who brings >>>>>>>>> fireworks to >>>>>>>>> parties?!??! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=3D/c/a/2010/01/31= /BAQ81BQGPC.DTL >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A dance party to raise money for the legal defense of student >>>>>>>>> protesters >>>>>>>>> turned violent in San Francisco early Sunday morning, as police >>>>>>>>> arrested >>>>>>>>> 11 >>>>>>>>> people at a building South of Market. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ten people were cited and released for misdemeanors, including >>>>>>>>> public >>>>>>>>> drunkenness, said Officer Samson Chan of the San Francisco Police >>>>>>>>> Department. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A 23-year-old man remains in jail after police said he threw a >>>>>>>>> large M-80 >>>>>>>>> firecracker, barely missing an officer. He faces felony charges o= f >>>>>>>>> aggravated assault. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Police went to 154 Seventh St. around 1 a.m. after neighbors >>>>>>>>> complained of >>>>>>>>> noise, Chan said, and the fire marshal couldn't get inside the >>>>>>>>> party >>>>>>>>> attended by several hundred. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When some started throwing bottles and firecrackers, "there was n= o >>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>> choice but to make sure this party was stopped," he said. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But partygoers said it was the police who turned violent, roughin= g >>>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>>> people for taking photos and asking to see a search warrant, said >>>>>>>>> Kassia >>>>>>>>> Korkus, 23. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "I feel they knew it was a politically motivated party, and that >>>>>>>>> fueled >>>>>>>>> their aggressiveness toward the attendees," Korkus said. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The party began as a way to raise cash for legal help needed by >>>>>>>>> protesters >>>>>>>>> arrested last fall at San Francisco State University and campuses >>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>> University of California, where students occupied buildings to >>>>>>>>> protest >>>>>>>>> tuition increases and layoffs. Campuses have dropped most charges= . >>>>>>>>> But >>>>>>>>> partygoers said they expect more activists to be arrested when >>>>>>>>> demonstrations heat up again in March. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It wasn't clear how much money was collected at the party, where >>>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>>> people paid up to $5 each to attend. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jared Aldrich, 32, a student at Laney College in Oakland, said he >>>>>>>>> was the >>>>>>>>> first person arrested at the party and now faces misdemeanors for >>>>>>>>> resisting >>>>>>>>> arrest, delaying an officer and battery. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "I don't know what that's about because I'm the one with the brok= en >>>>>>>>> arm," >>>>>>>>> he said, adding that police threw him down and pulled two fingers >>>>>>>>> back to >>>>>>>>> his wrist. He said his wrist is swollen and needs an X-ray. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sam Brown, 22, said he left when he saw people in plainclothes th= at >>>>>>>>> he and >>>>>>>>> others took to be police shove partygoers against the wall, swear >>>>>>>>> at them >>>>>>>>> and demand to know who was in charge. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "I was very shaken up," Brown said. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------= ---- >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------= --- >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------= - >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151849-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 06 05:47:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11911 invoked by uid 1103); 6 Feb 2010 05:47:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11889 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2010 05:47:39 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: B6xikByswBBw2dcCrYo09aIg7vLNM56B87ozoQ0ioddLuQ-- X-YMail-OSG: 9iVCJJ8VM1k7M8x0aKCfpYu7mhr4wr4uzPvWj5QX_uymH3GWcUhHooRdtUoQ4mbwP0gIZeq8IN0rIOn.oHVaeksWMPkKvmC553OK0jAi0uBWdrTUsalzqVnSnprxhwJnMkGWKTQ_91a88RXggboJfyoJz_mKrsG9cqBf5DVN_77JM10xVo7BRPz.DXXmqQZw5WAILEJ.GIponvHmNDAQKtRqL0nzOG4AgfAAhwuQA82gbRN6GavfNlNSRealjtp3cX7bfNAYOTc.9OCWeHvclr7No7p3mZ9loevpgBoUhNbinXifejqQI8Cirh9ZXWSpOYxYWcB15UOUBl_EHhiGfIlDOZ.FThGVVkAmuYBzjs_u_drEPcJlt9ZXkT_EXJWoDXdW0YUrsRi3xTPcL0Ns_4_zwXekKQDZutSCUouNUg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-Id: <2D6ECD52-3E7C-4DF2-952C-79DE6E206DF6@deepfog.com> From: Deepfog To: "The Twilight Laser Outpost \(West\)" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 21:47:37 -0800 References: <4afde872254c53b862e6a9c3e9af4a34@activepassive.net> <4B68DFC5.6000505@sonic.net> <7237bf9f1002021935y762cdfaft23f3e6153bb9e1e9@mail.gmail.com> <4B6B9843.5080906@sonic.net> <4B6CC3EC.3070409@sonic.net> <4B6CDF72.3080504@sonic.net> <5AE4CB19-9156-4403-877F-2840243632D6@deepfog.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? Hmm, well I suppose it does depend on how you look at things. But if there were more 755's online, the roid-headed SWAT teams of San Francisco would be overwhelmed by the sheer *number* of ravers and the sheer *number* of parties. At some point there is an upper limit on how much the beauracracy can afford to dish out, especially if it is a sustained campaign with no leaders. What is that ceiling? Of course, one could argue there aren't enough ravers left, after all it's been pretty much biscuits and tumbleweeds these days around here .. and 28 year olds at parties complaining about how old they are getting. Huh? Shucks, just telling it like it is! On Feb 5, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Mike Wertheim wrote: > I hate to display my ignorance, but... What do the numbers mean? (I > imagine that perhaps they're related to UNIX filesystem permissions, > but if that's actually the case, how do they relate to partygoers?) > > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Deepfog wrote: >> Oh, oops. I got that the wrong way. I meant to say a lot of 477's. >> 755 is >> usually best for mass activism. Wouldn't you agree? >> >> >> On Feb 5, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Shatter wrote: >> >>> There's two things though that can get in the way of this: >>> >>> Officer Bertrand >>> Officer Ott >>> >>> I am tired of people that feel they need a reason to have a party, >>> especially "fundraisers" because let's be honest, isn't every >>> party a >>> fundraiser to some extent? Fight Night 2 is happening tonight. >>> Should be >>> cool. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Deepfog wrote: >>>> >>>> OK, well on to the problem here. I logged into the server and I >>>> see a lot >>>> of 644's. The files represent people at the party. OK, we need to >>>> be very >>>> liberal about making all ravers 755. That is, if throwing parties >>>> in San >>>> Francisco is something that interests you. No need to wait for >>>> any local >>>> activist groups to do anything, this can be a headless coup. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 5, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Shatter wrote: >>>> >>>>> I stand correct. >>>>> >>>>> I will let my time account for in accuracy. I was thinking of >>>>> the M-100 >>>>> and M-1000 I think the 1000 is equiv to 1.8 stick or something >>>>> like that. >>>>> >>>>> M-80 will still mess you up though if not handled correctly. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jas Strong wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The things you get that they call "M-80s" are not even close to >>>>>> 1/8 >>>>>> stick of dynamite. They're just big firecrackers. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dynamite is high explosive and several orders of magnitude more >>>>>> brissant than any firework (or even training munition), for >>>>>> good reason. >>>>>> >>>>>> -J., >>>>>> former explosives tech >>>>>> >>>>>> On 4 Feb 2010, at 20:02, Shatter wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Let me rephrase, since the address was given and it certainly >>>>>>> wasn't >>>>>>> an out door summer festival... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to an indoor party. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't even consider an M-80 a firework. It's an explosive, >>>>>>> 1/8 >>>>>>> stick of dynamite IIRC. Fire crackers, lady fingers, some >>>>>>> bottle rockets. >>>>>>> Those are fire works. Fun fire show or pop pop fun. Not >>>>>>> something that >>>>>>> can damage a limb or kill at close range. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are many levels of "not cool" and tossing M-80's around >>>>>>> indoor >>>>>>> ranks pretty high on that scale. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nyc Labrets wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Shatter >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The answer you are looking for is "Assholes" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to a party. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Umm, starting with the Chinese, fireworks have been used at >>>>>>>> parties >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> *thousands* of years. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Waiting until cops show up to enforce fucked up Laws, created >>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>> fun-hating >>>>>>>> assholes, to set off fireworks, shows a profound lack of >>>>>>>> judgment. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You must be a charming dinner guest. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> sfr@djproxy.com wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What the hell? People throwing M80's at cops?!? Who brings >>>>>>>>>> fireworks to >>>>>>>>>> parties?!??! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/c/a/2010/01/31/BAQ81BQGPC.DTL >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> A dance party to raise money for the legal defense of student >>>>>>>>>> protesters >>>>>>>>>> turned violent in San Francisco early Sunday morning, as >>>>>>>>>> police >>>>>>>>>> arrested >>>>>>>>>> 11 >>>>>>>>>> people at a building South of Market. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ten people were cited and released for misdemeanors, >>>>>>>>>> including >>>>>>>>>> public >>>>>>>>>> drunkenness, said Officer Samson Chan of the San Francisco >>>>>>>>>> Police >>>>>>>>>> Department. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> A 23-year-old man remains in jail after police said he >>>>>>>>>> threw a >>>>>>>>>> large M-80 >>>>>>>>>> firecracker, barely missing an officer. He faces felony >>>>>>>>>> charges of >>>>>>>>>> aggravated assault. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Police went to 154 Seventh St. around 1 a.m. after neighbors >>>>>>>>>> complained of >>>>>>>>>> noise, Chan said, and the fire marshal couldn't get inside >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> party >>>>>>>>>> attended by several hundred. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> When some started throwing bottles and firecrackers, "there >>>>>>>>>> was no >>>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>> choice but to make sure this party was stopped," he said. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But partygoers said it was the police who turned violent, >>>>>>>>>> roughing >>>>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>>>> people for taking photos and asking to see a search >>>>>>>>>> warrant, said >>>>>>>>>> Kassia >>>>>>>>>> Korkus, 23. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "I feel they knew it was a politically motivated party, and >>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>> fueled >>>>>>>>>> their aggressiveness toward the attendees," Korkus said. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The party began as a way to raise cash for legal help >>>>>>>>>> needed by >>>>>>>>>> protesters >>>>>>>>>> arrested last fall at San Francisco State University and >>>>>>>>>> campuses >>>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>>> University of California, where students occupied buildings >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> protest >>>>>>>>>> tuition increases and layoffs. Campuses have dropped most >>>>>>>>>> charges. >>>>>>>>>> But >>>>>>>>>> partygoers said they expect more activists to be arrested >>>>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>>>> demonstrations heat up again in March. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It wasn't clear how much money was collected at the party, >>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>>>> people paid up to $5 each to attend. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jared Aldrich, 32, a student at Laney College in Oakland, >>>>>>>>>> said he >>>>>>>>>> was the >>>>>>>>>> first person arrested at the party and now faces >>>>>>>>>> misdemeanors for >>>>>>>>>> resisting >>>>>>>>>> arrest, delaying an officer and battery. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "I don't know what that's about because I'm the one with >>>>>>>>>> the broken >>>>>>>>>> arm," >>>>>>>>>> he said, adding that police threw him down and pulled two >>>>>>>>>> fingers >>>>>>>>>> back to >>>>>>>>>> his wrist. He said his wrist is swollen and needs an X-ray. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sam Brown, 22, said he left when he saw people in >>>>>>>>>> plainclothes that >>>>>>>>>> he and >>>>>>>>>> others took to be police shove partygoers against the wall, >>>>>>>>>> swear >>>>>>>>>> at them >>>>>>>>>> and demand to know who was in charge. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "I was very shaken up," Brown said. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>> >>>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151850-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 06 10:40:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 88873 invoked by uid 1103); 6 Feb 2010 10:40:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 88848 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2010 10:40:22 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=98y5PWkFptIIdupTQGyyENMEcr+o8LbBKPVJWOUjnIA=; b=a+omEvfoCnt2E3EPo1fHJjW/50/Ywbt+AkTjOqTBoy9Q/I0tv5lvkneUM6Q0afaR8z uKKZUI8ZUrAi4gdKAegMO/qbRbrieaZ5ln9ds+14VFYq+qzqazhD3QF9BBlYKIFGe5ld 5V5S0fKjoO2Lp7QQ0OLxY7miMZbjuT9RxvBCc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=p0cmesRfHMfgt9RBt2OjQlDfugalzsoeRDUB1vmWa/dXtAUjuJsbPz5ou6M7ouThoA qO01RCKnf7HSjuFUS+1aAZdI7bUnb6cwMgKPDvsEtM35Sk0WluQGxd6XS0C3arh2pRZJ ZXEx8/XfYg3ba5GCY9u8WPzkQzhrABJXhKjFQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <258DC8ED-3585-48F9-A2A6-055FDC957FCA@scosol.org> References: <4afde872254c53b862e6a9c3e9af4a34@activepassive.net> <4B68DFC5.6000505@sonic.net> <7237bf9f1002021935y762cdfaft23f3e6153bb9e1e9@mail.gmail.com> <4B6B9843.5080906@sonic.net> <4B6CC3EC.3070409@sonic.net> <258DC8ED-3585-48F9-A2A6-055FDC957FCA@scosol.org> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 02:40:20 -0800 Message-ID: <3eb4f3aa1002060240k756fe608s4360a0339f4984db@mail.gmail.com> From: "d . k" To: Scott Solmonson Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? i usually stay out of discussions like this, because unless someone has opened a door with a water-impulse device, or seen a cratering charge make a hole big enough to drive a few cars into, or what an EFP does to a humvee door, they don't really get how it scales up. that said (and the exception to my rule is)- given that the SFPD have shot and killed people for wielding knives, throwing fireworks at them probably doesn't fall under the "good idea" column; and i think that was the original point here. -dk (combat engineer, us army) On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Scott Solmonson wrote: > Just to be clear- whatever you're describing as an M-**** has nothing at all to do with dynamite or any other high explosive. > You're being marketed to by whoever you got them from in Chinatown. > > Dynamite is used to blast tons of rock apart. > Things lit with a fuse are made to make a loud noise. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salute_(pyrotechnics) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151851-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 06 16:27:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 75980 invoked by uid 1103); 6 Feb 2010 16:27:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 75960 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2010 16:27:10 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1265473626; bh=c4Ly74RCDukbRyxnjLM3CUUuAqFq/WzcBWfoca2lHGQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bSCxJXFlpXcBdBLNNRCNg0JuhknsV/2ryanXo3n+U2Seq/E7fpsPocT+n8r28tyEmDIV6EADOLpbwG+v+QH30VOgiu+4attVe1+o70vTaiC7+aAhhiv3I/Ca1l0v5LBTEevUo343bW3GLdB45Vel7m/xo81mNnPblhmJ43bAwCk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jVO/Y/SXKwszt+0QHu34zv5Wk/eQu9uS7y9knj68eK3/gcuU+vYsdGFX2y71LkNfS8RsoBxxOONwdABFADHsbioSb5KnQThbwAL687nCciyhaSKW1wCoN6N26p7prgvK0BEMB5ndY+LXnI7oO5r3ADC+D1OLcHrgnrsehmgZnHM=; Message-ID: <151339.75915.qm@web32404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: a8f6rQwVM1m0mf_IkwSpBJOdvdFk73_0Pyn_qDgnZ8sxWLTlmzgjwQZgsytIaKNdOmAiYFTIujdbIRffwv07DuzXDaDQU_7mxkY8iC0Sl_dWK0OQGrfyIwGPLBl5Jyrv_eRurlY1TJoqiloyH0wiDyNwyqpekgq8dwVNrT0mpfqLtL0ipFPtsuIwxhd_hOVjyPsjCLiTx_WJw6.gFmqwKKNVCRBWkfPXuTS4S05g3ZqEp3mAZlwP8dAsu.2t6bnVinw45P55W7SCcE5Zw3Qi5.0gSWczFN0y0AjNv5af4Bwz4D4u2PGvMQeuihYSWI6V8mFbnW7Kfk3tUK_xLNtm5j5FwJ4nUICidOPlRHvMnJeHqZz7TD_XB8GpFBFNAMBZr52Jf8Q5OtRZs_kwjx.7rqo9rx_BZHqXFncUuxbJt6JJPsayV8Ck7Xa9jGyJ1iWeYNOrE9ITQ4WHkRiYyY4- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/272.7 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <4afde872254c53b862e6a9c3e9af4a34@activepassive.net> <4B68DFC5.6000505@sonic.net> <7237bf9f1002021935y762cdfaft23f3e6153bb9e1e9@mail.gmail.com> <4B6B9843.5080906@sonic.net> <4B6CC3EC.3070409@sonic.net> <258DC8ED-3585-48F9-A2A6-055FDC957FCA@scosol.org> <3eb4f3aa1002060240k756fe608s4360a0339f4984db@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 08:27:06 -0800 (PST) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: "d . k" , Scott Solmonson Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <3eb4f3aa1002060240k756fe608s4360a0339f4984db@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? DK FTW ----- Original Message ---- From: d . k To: Scott Solmonson Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Sat, February 6, 2010 2:40:20 AM Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? i usually stay out of discussions like this, because unless someone has opened a door with a water-impulse device, or seen a cratering charge make a hole big enough to drive a few cars into, or what an EFP does to a humvee door, they don't really get how it scales up. that said (and the exception to my rule is)- given that the SFPD have shot and killed people for wielding knives, throwing fireworks at them probably doesn't fall under the "good idea" column; and i think that was the original point here. -dk (combat engineer, us army) On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Scott Solmonson wrote: > Just to be clear- whatever you're describing as an M-**** has nothing at all to do with dynamite or any other high explosive. > You're being marketed to by whoever you got them from in Chinatown. > > Dynamite is used to blast tons of rock apart. > Things lit with a fuse are made to make a loud noise. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salute_(pyrotechnics) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151852-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 06 22:05:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 85802 invoked by uid 1103); 6 Feb 2010 22:05:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 85778 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2010 22:05:16 -0000 Cc: Scott Solmonson , sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: From: Jas Strong To: d . k In-Reply-To: <3eb4f3aa1002060240k756fe608s4360a0339f4984db@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 14:05:11 -0800 References: <4afde872254c53b862e6a9c3e9af4a34@activepassive.net> <4B68DFC5.6000505@sonic.net> <7237bf9f1002021935y762cdfaft23f3e6153bb9e1e9@mail.gmail.com> <4B6B9843.5080906@sonic.net> <4B6CC3EC.3070409@sonic.net> <258DC8ED-3585-48F9-A2A6-055FDC957FCA@scosol.org> <3eb4f3aa1002060240k756fe608s4360a0339f4984db@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? On 6 Feb 2010, at 02:40, d . k wrote: > i usually stay out of discussions like this, because unless someone > has opened a door with a water-impulse device, or seen a cratering > charge make a hole big enough to drive a few cars into, or what an EFP > does to a humvee door, they don't really get how it scales up. or, indeed, how little real explosive it takes to deafen everyone in the room. > that said (and the exception to my rule is)- given that the SFPD have > shot and killed people for wielding knives, throwing fireworks at them > probably doesn't fall under the "good idea" column; and i think that > was the original point here. you would have to be a special kind of idiot to think it's a good idea to take fireworks to an indoor party. and then something else entirely to believe it's a good idea (and a survival-oriented one) to use them while cops are present. -J. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151853-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 06 23:01:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 43876 invoked by uid 1103); 6 Feb 2010 23:01:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 43842 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2010 23:01:09 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1265497268; bh=KGLFci9hl93rw2NX3cqY/5DeXsCuK6Rrylwcg5qth8o=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fHkU1U6G1l9RqOKRqbZ+5NXsz8dI8eaY1Oaaw0108cAYrFD2xVe2ahaXeBinCCNl8B7fPmgrE42AA8l6FYKqshkwLNP7PC/MG2ZY0eMW40tdoXVU+zJwkEhwFAUqV918QPm6q3kJM4qMZoxbIzIO+UfsYW+61Do234BKzJTCClI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IysVul7b8GGzxKG13IC4g/sxuHBw/PQA9rB2oUZdahypyP0IXlp985Z9/O6beOzgwPeKmjneBb8bfqfHSA9qnfnCwz9dg5EiCOTvNDqZFgfk4QRaRVGmp+DiTxTn065feUZtcKJ74Qk7rMlG2KsnAJujQhxDvHwpHkzapVzsJ3w=; Message-ID: <197915.26251.qm@web32401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: fVVKprwVM1mkoioAk10eIoRg8Qb1jTWqKGfKCv0A_vLJfQrLW1ljWblxf7Y1fVO18eq6m0bh4VCrXpdEaXXQxt895.IgIUINY6PDg7ocf8XF7fK_PP3cZ_Iynb_gcjHQiZJWBddLu.PyFmCWMYTxhK5calz6VzaRZk.aKpy6Vf2ZLrHCRQxxfg67mZlQlnma.s2uOX2Rnc_rtJyNgfCWi6AxwH.pFLOGswRzQbKRlxXe5Q3VpGMo9XVIVoORQM7ZGiMVYDbQpO8dh1tJa99YeHY.DGH1upHaaWtQMSRTsnmtZdof0IRIx.bfryce3zhROK.2ImnnLupYKf12DnMmKDgUHDTivQtlUt9VlJ96mzeO_84- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/272.7 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <4afde872254c53b862e6a9c3e9af4a34@activepassive.net> <4B68DFC5.6000505@sonic.net> <7237bf9f1002021935y762cdfaft23f3e6153bb9e1e9@mail.gmail.com> <4B6B9843.5080906@sonic.net> <4B6CC3EC.3070409@sonic.net> <258DC8ED-3585-48F9-A2A6-055FDC957FCA@scosol.org> <3eb4f3aa1002060240k756fe608s4360a0339f4984db@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 15:01:07 -0800 (PST) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: Jas Strong , "d . k" Cc: Scott Solmonson , sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? Hmm, time to mention the club in Mexico I went to where they set of bottle rockets on cables at midnight. ;) ----- Original Message ---- From: Jas Strong To: d . k Cc: Scott Solmonson ; sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Sat, February 6, 2010 2:05:11 PM Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? On 6 Feb 2010, at 02:40, d . k wrote: > i usually stay out of discussions like this, because unless someone > has opened a door with a water-impulse device, or seen a cratering > charge make a hole big enough to drive a few cars into, or what an EFP > does to a humvee door, they don't really get how it scales up. or, indeed, how little real explosive it takes to deafen everyone in the room. > that said (and the exception to my rule is)- given that the SFPD have > shot and killed people for wielding knives, throwing fireworks at them > probably doesn't fall under the "good idea" column; and i think that > was the original point here. you would have to be a special kind of idiot to think it's a good idea to take fireworks to an indoor party. and then something else entirely to believe it's a good idea (and a survival-oriented one) to use them while cops are present. -J. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151854-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 07 00:15:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12983 invoked by uid 1103); 7 Feb 2010 00:15:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12963 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2010 00:15:52 -0000 Message-ID: <4B6E0632.40906@sonic.net> Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 16:15:46 -0800 From: Shatter User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Solmonson CC: Jas Strong , Nyc Labrets , sfr@djproxy.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org References: <4afde872254c53b862e6a9c3e9af4a34@activepassive.net> <4B68DFC5.6000505@sonic.net> <7237bf9f1002021935y762cdfaft23f3e6153bb9e1e9@mail.gmail.com> <4B6B9843.5080906@sonic.net> <4B6CC3EC.3070409@sonic.net> <258DC8ED-3585-48F9-A2A6-055FDC957FCA@scosol.org> In-Reply-To: <258DC8ED-3585-48F9-A2A6-055FDC957FCA@scosol.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? Right, but there does come a point where there is enough explosive force that it doesn't really matter. Doesn't really matter if it's a puny little hydrogen bomb or a Plutonium bomb if you are at ground zero. Throwing explosive at people isn't cool. Bringing them to a non-explosive type of party, isn't cool. Scott Solmonson wrote: > Just to be clear- whatever you're describing as an M-**** has nothing at all to do with dynamite or any other high explosive. > You're being marketed to by whoever you got them from in Chinatown. > > Dynamite is used to blast tons of rock apart. > Things lit with a fuse are made to make a loud noise. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salute_(pyrotechnics) > > -- > NUNQUAM NON PARATUS > V: 408.718.6290 > > On Feb 5, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Shatter wrote: > > >> I stand correct. >> >> I will let my time account for in accuracy. I was thinking of the M-100 and M-1000 I think the 1000 is equiv to 1.8 stick or something like that. >> >> M-80 will still mess you up though if not handled correctly. >> >> >> >> Jas Strong wrote: >> >>> The things you get that they call "M-80s" are not even close to 1/8 stick of dynamite. They're just big firecrackers. >>> >>> Dynamite is high explosive and several orders of magnitude more brissant than any firework (or even training munition), for good reason. >>> >>> -J., >>> former explosives tech >>> >>> On 4 Feb 2010, at 20:02, Shatter wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Let me rephrase, since the address was given and it certainly wasn't an out door summer festival... >>>> >>>> >>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to an indoor party. >>>> >>>> I don't even consider an M-80 a firework. It's an explosive, 1/8 stick of dynamite IIRC. Fire crackers, lady fingers, some bottle rockets. Those are fire works. Fun fire show or pop pop fun. Not something that can damage a limb or kill at close range. >>>> >>>> There are many levels of "not cool" and tossing M-80's around indoor ranks pretty high on that scale. >>>> >>>> Nyc Labrets wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Shatter wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> The answer you are looking for is "Assholes" >>>>>> >>>>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to a party. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Umm, starting with the Chinese, fireworks have been used at parties for >>>>> *thousands* of years. >>>>> >>>>> Waiting until cops show up to enforce fucked up Laws, created by fun-hating >>>>> assholes, to set off fireworks, shows a profound lack of judgment. >>>>> >>>>> You must be a charming dinner guest. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> sfr@djproxy.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> What the hell? People throwing M80's at cops?!? Who brings fireworks to >>>>>>> parties?!??! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/c/a/2010/01/31/BAQ81BQGPC.DTL >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A dance party to raise money for the legal defense of student protesters >>>>>>> turned violent in San Francisco early Sunday morning, as police arrested >>>>>>> 11 >>>>>>> people at a building South of Market. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ten people were cited and released for misdemeanors, including public >>>>>>> drunkenness, said Officer Samson Chan of the San Francisco Police >>>>>>> Department. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A 23-year-old man remains in jail after police said he threw a large M-80 >>>>>>> firecracker, barely missing an officer. He faces felony charges of >>>>>>> aggravated assault. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Police went to 154 Seventh St. around 1 a.m. after neighbors complained of >>>>>>> noise, Chan said, and the fire marshal couldn't get inside the party >>>>>>> attended by several hundred. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When some started throwing bottles and firecrackers, "there was no other >>>>>>> choice but to make sure this party was stopped," he said. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But partygoers said it was the police who turned violent, roughing up >>>>>>> people for taking photos and asking to see a search warrant, said Kassia >>>>>>> Korkus, 23. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "I feel they knew it was a politically motivated party, and that fueled >>>>>>> their aggressiveness toward the attendees," Korkus said. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The party began as a way to raise cash for legal help needed by protesters >>>>>>> arrested last fall at San Francisco State University and campuses of the >>>>>>> University of California, where students occupied buildings to protest >>>>>>> tuition increases and layoffs. Campuses have dropped most charges. But >>>>>>> partygoers said they expect more activists to be arrested when >>>>>>> demonstrations heat up again in March. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It wasn't clear how much money was collected at the party, where many >>>>>>> people paid up to $5 each to attend. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jared Aldrich, 32, a student at Laney College in Oakland, said he was the >>>>>>> first person arrested at the party and now faces misdemeanors for >>>>>>> resisting >>>>>>> arrest, delaying an officer and battery. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "I don't know what that's about because I'm the one with the broken arm," >>>>>>> he said, adding that police threw him down and pulled two fingers back to >>>>>>> his wrist. He said his wrist is swollen and needs an X-ray. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sam Brown, 22, said he left when he saw people in plainclothes that he and >>>>>>> others took to be police shove partygoers against the wall, swear at them >>>>>>> and demand to know who was in charge. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "I was very shaken up," Brown said. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>> >>>> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151855-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 07 00:18:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15174 invoked by uid 1103); 7 Feb 2010 00:18:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15137 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2010 00:18:27 -0000 Cc: Scott Solmonson , Nyc Labrets , sfr@djproxy.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: From: Jas Strong To: Shatter In-Reply-To: <4B6E0632.40906@sonic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 16:18:21 -0800 References: <4afde872254c53b862e6a9c3e9af4a34@activepassive.net> <4B68DFC5.6000505@sonic.net> <7237bf9f1002021935y762cdfaft23f3e6153bb9e1e9@mail.gmail.com> <4B6B9843.5080906@sonic.net> <4B6CC3EC.3070409@sonic.net> <258DC8ED-3585-48F9-A2A6-055FDC957FCA@scosol.org> <4B6E0632.40906@sonic.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? The point is that a report (ie., a firecracker) won't actually injure you unless you get it directly in the eyes, or in a closed hand. The former is why you don't throw them. The latter is why cheap chinese fireworks with short fuses are bad. -J. On 6 Feb 2010, at 16:15, Shatter wrote: > Right, but there does come a point where there is enough explosive > force that it doesn't really matter. Doesn't really matter if it's > a puny little hydrogen bomb or a Plutonium bomb if you are at ground > zero. > > Throwing explosive at people isn't cool. Bringing them to a non- > explosive type of party, isn't cool. > > > Scott Solmonson wrote: >> Just to be clear- whatever you're describing as an M-**** has >> nothing at all to do with dynamite or any other high explosive. >> You're being marketed to by whoever you got them from in Chinatown. >> >> Dynamite is used to blast tons of rock apart. >> Things lit with a fuse are made to make a loud noise. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salute_(pyrotechnics) >> >> -- >> NUNQUAM NON PARATUS >> V: 408.718.6290 >> >> On Feb 5, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Shatter wrote: >> >> >>> I stand correct. >>> >>> I will let my time account for in accuracy. I was thinking of the >>> M-100 and M-1000 I think the 1000 is equiv to 1.8 stick or >>> something like that. >>> >>> M-80 will still mess you up though if not handled correctly. >>> >>> >>> >>> Jas Strong wrote: >>> >>>> The things you get that they call "M-80s" are not even close to >>>> 1/8 stick of dynamite. They're just big firecrackers. >>>> >>>> Dynamite is high explosive and several orders of magnitude more >>>> brissant than any firework (or even training munition), for good >>>> reason. >>>> >>>> -J., >>>> former explosives tech >>>> >>>> On 4 Feb 2010, at 20:02, Shatter wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Let me rephrase, since the address was given and it certainly >>>>> wasn't an out door summer festival... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to an indoor party. >>>>> >>>>> I don't even consider an M-80 a firework. It's an explosive, >>>>> 1/8 stick of dynamite IIRC. Fire crackers, lady fingers, some >>>>> bottle rockets. Those are fire works. Fun fire show or pop pop >>>>> fun. Not something that can damage a limb or kill at close range. >>>>> >>>>> There are many levels of "not cool" and tossing M-80's around >>>>> indoor ranks pretty high on that scale. >>>>> >>>>> Nyc Labrets wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Shatter >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> The answer you are looking for is "Assholes" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to a party. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Umm, starting with the Chinese, fireworks have been used at >>>>>> parties for >>>>>> *thousands* of years. >>>>>> >>>>>> Waiting until cops show up to enforce fucked up Laws, created >>>>>> by fun-hating >>>>>> assholes, to set off fireworks, shows a profound lack of >>>>>> judgment. >>>>>> >>>>>> You must be a charming dinner guest. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> sfr@djproxy.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What the hell? People throwing M80's at cops?!? Who brings >>>>>>>> fireworks to >>>>>>>> parties?!??! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/c/a/2010/01/31/BAQ81BQGPC.DTL >>>>>>>> A dance party to raise money for the legal defense of student >>>>>>>> protesters >>>>>>>> turned violent in San Francisco early Sunday morning, as >>>>>>>> police arrested >>>>>>>> 11 >>>>>>>> people at a building South of Market. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ten people were cited and released for misdemeanors, >>>>>>>> including public >>>>>>>> drunkenness, said Officer Samson Chan of the San Francisco >>>>>>>> Police >>>>>>>> Department. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A 23-year-old man remains in jail after police said he threw >>>>>>>> a large M-80 >>>>>>>> firecracker, barely missing an officer. He faces felony >>>>>>>> charges of >>>>>>>> aggravated assault. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Police went to 154 Seventh St. around 1 a.m. after neighbors >>>>>>>> complained of >>>>>>>> noise, Chan said, and the fire marshal couldn't get inside >>>>>>>> the party >>>>>>>> attended by several hundred. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When some started throwing bottles and firecrackers, "there >>>>>>>> was no other >>>>>>>> choice but to make sure this party was stopped," he said. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But partygoers said it was the police who turned violent, >>>>>>>> roughing up >>>>>>>> people for taking photos and asking to see a search warrant, >>>>>>>> said Kassia >>>>>>>> Korkus, 23. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "I feel they knew it was a politically motivated party, and >>>>>>>> that fueled >>>>>>>> their aggressiveness toward the attendees," Korkus said. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The party began as a way to raise cash for legal help needed >>>>>>>> by protesters >>>>>>>> arrested last fall at San Francisco State University and >>>>>>>> campuses of the >>>>>>>> University of California, where students occupied buildings >>>>>>>> to protest >>>>>>>> tuition increases and layoffs. Campuses have dropped most >>>>>>>> charges. But >>>>>>>> partygoers said they expect more activists to be arrested when >>>>>>>> demonstrations heat up again in March. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It wasn't clear how much money was collected at the party, >>>>>>>> where many >>>>>>>> people paid up to $5 each to attend. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jared Aldrich, 32, a student at Laney College in Oakland, >>>>>>>> said he was the >>>>>>>> first person arrested at the party and now faces misdemeanors >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> resisting >>>>>>>> arrest, delaying an officer and battery. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "I don't know what that's about because I'm the one with the >>>>>>>> broken arm," >>>>>>>> he said, adding that police threw him down and pulled two >>>>>>>> fingers back to >>>>>>>> his wrist. He said his wrist is swollen and needs an X-ray. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sam Brown, 22, said he left when he saw people in >>>>>>>> plainclothes that he and >>>>>>>> others took to be police shove partygoers against the wall, >>>>>>>> swear at them >>>>>>>> and demand to know who was in charge. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "I was very shaken up," Brown said. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>> >>> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151856-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 07 00:23:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20540 invoked by uid 1103); 7 Feb 2010 00:23:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20522 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2010 00:23:27 -0000 Message-ID: <4B6E07DF.2080205@sonic.net> Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 16:22:55 -0800 From: Shatter User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Deepfog CC: "The Twilight Laser Outpost (West)" References: <4afde872254c53b862e6a9c3e9af4a34@activepassive.net> <4B68DFC5.6000505@sonic.net> <7237bf9f1002021935y762cdfaft23f3e6153bb9e1e9@mail.gmail.com> <4B6B9843.5080906@sonic.net> <4B6CC3EC.3070409@sonic.net> <4B6CDF72.3080504@sonic.net> <5AE4CB19-9156-4403-877F-2840243632D6@deepfog.com> <2D6ECD52-3E7C-4DF2-952C-79DE6E206DF6@deepfog.com> In-Reply-To: <2D6ECD52-3E7C-4DF2-952C-79DE6E206DF6@deepfog.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? When they confiscate your gear, CD's, laptop, cell phone, and anything els eto make you a sad Panda, it doesn't really matter. The two cops I mentioned shut down 25 party spaces in one weekend. They make club life hell. And that's just two of them. I'm not even going to get into the party goers who snitch you out (Happened to me) Cop: Where are you coming from? Party Idiot: Some party over there man. Cop: They charging at the door? PI: Ya man, I got charged $20 and it was all packed. Lots of people. Harshed my mellow. Cop: Serving drinks? PI: Ya man, I got charged $8 for a Vodka Redbull. I mean, WTF, they shouldn't charge for it. Cop: Thanks, you've been very helpful. That's all they need to shut you down. One idiot with a big mouth and they can take it all away, cite you, force you to go to court. On top of that they can cite the building owner. They can write up everyone they feel like, and make you go to court. Even if the charges are later dropped, they still have your gear, and you go to court. It's pretty fucked. Private should be private. Deepfog wrote: > Hmm, well I suppose it does depend on how you look at things. But if > there were more 755's online, the roid-headed SWAT teams of San > Francisco would be overwhelmed by the sheer *number* of ravers and the > sheer *number* of parties. At some point there is an upper limit on > how much the beauracracy can afford to dish out, especially if it is a > sustained campaign with no leaders. > > What is that ceiling? > > Of course, one could argue there aren't enough ravers left, after all > it's been pretty much biscuits and tumbleweeds these days around here > .. and 28 year olds at parties complaining about how old they are > getting. Huh? > > Shucks, just telling it like it is! > > > On Feb 5, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Mike Wertheim wrote: > >> I hate to display my ignorance, but... What do the numbers mean? (I >> imagine that perhaps they're related to UNIX filesystem permissions, >> but if that's actually the case, how do they relate to partygoers?) >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Deepfog wrote: >>> Oh, oops. I got that the wrong way. I meant to say a lot of 477's. >>> 755 is >>> usually best for mass activism. Wouldn't you agree? >>> >>> >>> On Feb 5, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Shatter wrote: >>> >>>> There's two things though that can get in the way of this: >>>> >>>> Officer Bertrand >>>> Officer Ott >>>> >>>> I am tired of people that feel they need a reason to have a party, >>>> especially "fundraisers" because let's be honest, isn't every party a >>>> fundraiser to some extent? Fight Night 2 is happening tonight. >>>> Should be >>>> cool. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Deepfog wrote: >>>>> >>>>> OK, well on to the problem here. I logged into the server and I >>>>> see a lot >>>>> of 644's. The files represent people at the party. OK, we need to >>>>> be very >>>>> liberal about making all ravers 755. That is, if throwing parties >>>>> in San >>>>> Francisco is something that interests you. No need to wait for any >>>>> local >>>>> activist groups to do anything, this can be a headless coup. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 5, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Shatter wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I stand correct. >>>>>> >>>>>> I will let my time account for in accuracy. I was thinking of >>>>>> the M-100 >>>>>> and M-1000 I think the 1000 is equiv to 1.8 stick or something >>>>>> like that. >>>>>> >>>>>> M-80 will still mess you up though if not handled correctly. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Jas Strong wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The things you get that they call "M-80s" are not even close to 1/8 >>>>>>> stick of dynamite. They're just big firecrackers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dynamite is high explosive and several orders of magnitude more >>>>>>> brissant than any firework (or even training munition), for good >>>>>>> reason. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -J., >>>>>>> former explosives tech >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 4 Feb 2010, at 20:02, Shatter wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Let me rephrase, since the address was given and it certainly >>>>>>>> wasn't >>>>>>>> an out door summer festival... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to an indoor party. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't even consider an M-80 a firework. It's an explosive, 1/8 >>>>>>>> stick of dynamite IIRC. Fire crackers, lady fingers, some >>>>>>>> bottle rockets. >>>>>>>> Those are fire works. Fun fire show or pop pop fun. Not >>>>>>>> something that >>>>>>>> can damage a limb or kill at close range. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are many levels of "not cool" and tossing M-80's around >>>>>>>> indoor >>>>>>>> ranks pretty high on that scale. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nyc Labrets wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Shatter >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The answer you are looking for is "Assholes" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to a party. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Umm, starting with the Chinese, fireworks have been used at >>>>>>>>> parties >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> *thousands* of years. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Waiting until cops show up to enforce fucked up Laws, created by >>>>>>>>> fun-hating >>>>>>>>> assholes, to set off fireworks, shows a profound lack of >>>>>>>>> judgment. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You must be a charming dinner guest. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> sfr@djproxy.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> What the hell? People throwing M80's at cops?!? Who brings >>>>>>>>>>> fireworks to >>>>>>>>>>> parties?!??! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/c/a/2010/01/31/BAQ81BQGPC.DTL >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> A dance party to raise money for the legal defense of student >>>>>>>>>>> protesters >>>>>>>>>>> turned violent in San Francisco early Sunday morning, as police >>>>>>>>>>> arrested >>>>>>>>>>> 11 >>>>>>>>>>> people at a building South of Market. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ten people were cited and released for misdemeanors, including >>>>>>>>>>> public >>>>>>>>>>> drunkenness, said Officer Samson Chan of the San Francisco >>>>>>>>>>> Police >>>>>>>>>>> Department. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> A 23-year-old man remains in jail after police said he threw a >>>>>>>>>>> large M-80 >>>>>>>>>>> firecracker, barely missing an officer. He faces felony >>>>>>>>>>> charges of >>>>>>>>>>> aggravated assault. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Police went to 154 Seventh St. around 1 a.m. after neighbors >>>>>>>>>>> complained of >>>>>>>>>>> noise, Chan said, and the fire marshal couldn't get inside the >>>>>>>>>>> party >>>>>>>>>>> attended by several hundred. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> When some started throwing bottles and firecrackers, "there >>>>>>>>>>> was no >>>>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>>> choice but to make sure this party was stopped," he said. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> But partygoers said it was the police who turned violent, >>>>>>>>>>> roughing >>>>>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>>>>> people for taking photos and asking to see a search warrant, >>>>>>>>>>> said >>>>>>>>>>> Kassia >>>>>>>>>>> Korkus, 23. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "I feel they knew it was a politically motivated party, and >>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>> fueled >>>>>>>>>>> their aggressiveness toward the attendees," Korkus said. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The party began as a way to raise cash for legal help needed by >>>>>>>>>>> protesters >>>>>>>>>>> arrested last fall at San Francisco State University and >>>>>>>>>>> campuses >>>>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>>>> University of California, where students occupied buildings to >>>>>>>>>>> protest >>>>>>>>>>> tuition increases and layoffs. Campuses have dropped most >>>>>>>>>>> charges. >>>>>>>>>>> But >>>>>>>>>>> partygoers said they expect more activists to be arrested when >>>>>>>>>>> demonstrations heat up again in March. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't clear how much money was collected at the party, >>>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>>>>> people paid up to $5 each to attend. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jared Aldrich, 32, a student at Laney College in Oakland, >>>>>>>>>>> said he >>>>>>>>>>> was the >>>>>>>>>>> first person arrested at the party and now faces >>>>>>>>>>> misdemeanors for >>>>>>>>>>> resisting >>>>>>>>>>> arrest, delaying an officer and battery. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "I don't know what that's about because I'm the one with the >>>>>>>>>>> broken >>>>>>>>>>> arm," >>>>>>>>>>> he said, adding that police threw him down and pulled two >>>>>>>>>>> fingers >>>>>>>>>>> back to >>>>>>>>>>> his wrist. He said his wrist is swollen and needs an X-ray. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sam Brown, 22, said he left when he saw people in >>>>>>>>>>> plainclothes that >>>>>>>>>>> he and >>>>>>>>>>> others took to be police shove partygoers against the wall, >>>>>>>>>>> swear >>>>>>>>>>> at them >>>>>>>>>>> and demand to know who was in charge. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "I was very shaken up," Brown said. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151857-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 07 00:29:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25168 invoked by uid 1103); 7 Feb 2010 00:29:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25152 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2010 00:29:21 -0000 Message-ID: <4B6E095D.2090809@sonic.net> Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 16:29:17 -0800 From: Shatter User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jas Strong CC: Scott Solmonson , Nyc Labrets , sfr@djproxy.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org References: <4afde872254c53b862e6a9c3e9af4a34@activepassive.net> <4B68DFC5.6000505@sonic.net> <7237bf9f1002021935y762cdfaft23f3e6153bb9e1e9@mail.gmail.com> <4B6B9843.5080906@sonic.net> <4B6CC3EC.3070409@sonic.net> <258DC8ED-3585-48F9-A2A6-055FDC957FCA@scosol.org> <4B6E0632.40906@sonic.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? I wasn't talking about little pop pop pop fun things. We're talking about M-80 size explosives. Those do not go pop pop pop. they go BOOOM. Also, please don't tell me how safe fire crackers are, I have partial deafness and Tinitis in my right year from a firecracker going off indoors near me when I was 10. 30 years later the ringing hasn't stopped. Jas Strong wrote: > > The point is that a report (ie., a firecracker) won't actually injure > you unless you get it directly in the eyes, or in a closed hand. > > The former is why you don't throw them. The latter is why cheap > chinese fireworks with short fuses are bad. > > -J. > > On 6 Feb 2010, at 16:15, Shatter wrote: > >> Right, but there does come a point where there is enough explosive >> force that it doesn't really matter. Doesn't really matter if it's a >> puny little hydrogen bomb or a Plutonium bomb if you are at ground zero. >> >> Throwing explosive at people isn't cool. Bringing them to a >> non-explosive type of party, isn't cool. >> >> >> Scott Solmonson wrote: >>> Just to be clear- whatever you're describing as an M-**** has >>> nothing at all to do with dynamite or any other high explosive. >>> You're being marketed to by whoever you got them from in Chinatown. >>> >>> Dynamite is used to blast tons of rock apart. >>> Things lit with a fuse are made to make a loud noise. >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salute_(pyrotechnics) >>> >>> -- >>> NUNQUAM NON PARATUS >>> V: 408.718.6290 >>> >>> On Feb 5, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Shatter wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I stand correct. >>>> >>>> I will let my time account for in accuracy. I was thinking of the >>>> M-100 and M-1000 I think the 1000 is equiv to 1.8 stick or >>>> something like that. >>>> >>>> M-80 will still mess you up though if not handled correctly. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Jas Strong wrote: >>>> >>>>> The things you get that they call "M-80s" are not even close to >>>>> 1/8 stick of dynamite. They're just big firecrackers. >>>>> >>>>> Dynamite is high explosive and several orders of magnitude more >>>>> brissant than any firework (or even training munition), for good >>>>> reason. >>>>> >>>>> -J., >>>>> former explosives tech >>>>> >>>>> On 4 Feb 2010, at 20:02, Shatter wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Let me rephrase, since the address was given and it certainly >>>>>> wasn't an out door summer festival... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to an indoor party. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't even consider an M-80 a firework. It's an explosive, 1/8 >>>>>> stick of dynamite IIRC. Fire crackers, lady fingers, some bottle >>>>>> rockets. Those are fire works. Fun fire show or pop pop fun. >>>>>> Not something that can damage a limb or kill at close range. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are many levels of "not cool" and tossing M-80's around >>>>>> indoor ranks pretty high on that scale. >>>>>> >>>>>> Nyc Labrets wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Shatter wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The answer you are looking for is "Assholes" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to a party. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Umm, starting with the Chinese, fireworks have been used at >>>>>>> parties for >>>>>>> *thousands* of years. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Waiting until cops show up to enforce fucked up Laws, created by >>>>>>> fun-hating >>>>>>> assholes, to set off fireworks, shows a profound lack of judgment. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You must be a charming dinner guest. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> sfr@djproxy.com wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What the hell? People throwing M80's at cops?!? Who brings >>>>>>>>> fireworks to >>>>>>>>> parties?!??! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/c/a/2010/01/31/BAQ81BQGPC.DTL >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A dance party to raise money for the legal defense of student >>>>>>>>> protesters >>>>>>>>> turned violent in San Francisco early Sunday morning, as >>>>>>>>> police arrested >>>>>>>>> 11 >>>>>>>>> people at a building South of Market. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ten people were cited and released for misdemeanors, including >>>>>>>>> public >>>>>>>>> drunkenness, said Officer Samson Chan of the San Francisco Police >>>>>>>>> Department. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A 23-year-old man remains in jail after police said he threw a >>>>>>>>> large M-80 >>>>>>>>> firecracker, barely missing an officer. He faces felony >>>>>>>>> charges of >>>>>>>>> aggravated assault. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Police went to 154 Seventh St. around 1 a.m. after neighbors >>>>>>>>> complained of >>>>>>>>> noise, Chan said, and the fire marshal couldn't get inside the >>>>>>>>> party >>>>>>>>> attended by several hundred. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When some started throwing bottles and firecrackers, "there >>>>>>>>> was no other >>>>>>>>> choice but to make sure this party was stopped," he said. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But partygoers said it was the police who turned violent, >>>>>>>>> roughing up >>>>>>>>> people for taking photos and asking to see a search warrant, >>>>>>>>> said Kassia >>>>>>>>> Korkus, 23. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "I feel they knew it was a politically motivated party, and >>>>>>>>> that fueled >>>>>>>>> their aggressiveness toward the attendees," Korkus said. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The party began as a way to raise cash for legal help needed >>>>>>>>> by protesters >>>>>>>>> arrested last fall at San Francisco State University and >>>>>>>>> campuses of the >>>>>>>>> University of California, where students occupied buildings to >>>>>>>>> protest >>>>>>>>> tuition increases and layoffs. Campuses have dropped most >>>>>>>>> charges. But >>>>>>>>> partygoers said they expect more activists to be arrested when >>>>>>>>> demonstrations heat up again in March. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It wasn't clear how much money was collected at the party, >>>>>>>>> where many >>>>>>>>> people paid up to $5 each to attend. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jared Aldrich, 32, a student at Laney College in Oakland, said >>>>>>>>> he was the >>>>>>>>> first person arrested at the party and now faces misdemeanors for >>>>>>>>> resisting >>>>>>>>> arrest, delaying an officer and battery. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "I don't know what that's about because I'm the one with the >>>>>>>>> broken arm," >>>>>>>>> he said, adding that police threw him down and pulled two >>>>>>>>> fingers back to >>>>>>>>> his wrist. He said his wrist is swollen and needs an X-ray. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sam Brown, 22, said he left when he saw people in plainclothes >>>>>>>>> that he and >>>>>>>>> others took to be police shove partygoers against the wall, >>>>>>>>> swear at them >>>>>>>>> and demand to know who was in charge. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "I was very shaken up," Brown said. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151858-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 07 00:33:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27972 invoked by uid 1103); 7 Feb 2010 00:33:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27951 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2010 00:33:02 -0000 Cc: Scott Solmonson , Nyc Labrets , sfr@djproxy.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: From: Jas Strong To: Shatter In-Reply-To: <4B6E095D.2090809@sonic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 16:32:55 -0800 References: <4afde872254c53b862e6a9c3e9af4a34@activepassive.net> <4B68DFC5.6000505@sonic.net> <7237bf9f1002021935y762cdfaft23f3e6153bb9e1e9@mail.gmail.com> <4B6B9843.5080906@sonic.net> <4B6CC3EC.3070409@sonic.net> <258DC8ED-3585-48F9-A2A6-055FDC957FCA@scosol.org> <4B6E0632.40906@sonic.net> <4B6E095D.2090809@sonic.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? On 6 Feb 2010, at 16:29, Shatter wrote: > I wasn't talking about little pop pop pop fun things. We're talking > about M-80 size explosives. Those do not go pop pop pop. they go > BOOOM. No, they go "crack". They're not that loud. > > Also, please don't tell me how safe fire crackers are, I have > partial deafness and Tinitis in my right year from a firecracker > going off indoors near me when I was 10. 30 years later the ringing > hasn't stopped. If this was true I'd expect you to be able to spell "tinnitus" -J. > > Jas Strong wrote: >> >> The point is that a report (ie., a firecracker) won't actually >> injure you unless you get it directly in the eyes, or in a closed >> hand. >> >> The former is why you don't throw them. The latter is why cheap >> chinese fireworks with short fuses are bad. >> >> -J. >> >> On 6 Feb 2010, at 16:15, Shatter wrote: >> >>> Right, but there does come a point where there is enough explosive >>> force that it doesn't really matter. Doesn't really matter if >>> it's a puny little hydrogen bomb or a Plutonium bomb if you are at >>> ground zero. >>> >>> Throwing explosive at people isn't cool. Bringing them to a non- >>> explosive type of party, isn't cool. >>> >>> >>> Scott Solmonson wrote: >>>> Just to be clear- whatever you're describing as an M-**** has >>>> nothing at all to do with dynamite or any other high explosive. >>>> You're being marketed to by whoever you got them from in Chinatown. >>>> >>>> Dynamite is used to blast tons of rock apart. >>>> Things lit with a fuse are made to make a loud noise. >>>> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salute_(pyrotechnics) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> NUNQUAM NON PARATUS >>>> V: 408.718.6290 >>>> >>>> On Feb 5, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Shatter wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I stand correct. >>>>> >>>>> I will let my time account for in accuracy. I was thinking of >>>>> the M-100 and M-1000 I think the 1000 is equiv to 1.8 stick or >>>>> something like that. >>>>> >>>>> M-80 will still mess you up though if not handled correctly. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jas Strong wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The things you get that they call "M-80s" are not even close to >>>>>> 1/8 stick of dynamite. They're just big firecrackers. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dynamite is high explosive and several orders of magnitude more >>>>>> brissant than any firework (or even training munition), for >>>>>> good reason. >>>>>> >>>>>> -J., >>>>>> former explosives tech >>>>>> >>>>>> On 4 Feb 2010, at 20:02, Shatter wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Let me rephrase, since the address was given and it certainly >>>>>>> wasn't an out door summer festival... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to an indoor party. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't even consider an M-80 a firework. It's an explosive, >>>>>>> 1/8 stick of dynamite IIRC. Fire crackers, lady fingers, some >>>>>>> bottle rockets. Those are fire works. Fun fire show or pop >>>>>>> pop fun. Not something that can damage a limb or kill at >>>>>>> close range. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are many levels of "not cool" and tossing M-80's around >>>>>>> indoor ranks pretty high on that scale. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nyc Labrets wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Shatter >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The answer you are looking for is "Assholes" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to a party. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Umm, starting with the Chinese, fireworks have been used at >>>>>>>> parties for >>>>>>>> *thousands* of years. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Waiting until cops show up to enforce fucked up Laws, created >>>>>>>> by fun-hating >>>>>>>> assholes, to set off fireworks, shows a profound lack of >>>>>>>> judgment. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You must be a charming dinner guest. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> sfr@djproxy.com wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What the hell? People throwing M80's at cops?!? Who >>>>>>>>>> brings fireworks to >>>>>>>>>> parties?!??! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/c/a/2010/01/31/BAQ81BQGPC.DTL >>>>>>>>>> A dance party to raise money for the legal defense of >>>>>>>>>> student protesters >>>>>>>>>> turned violent in San Francisco early Sunday morning, as >>>>>>>>>> police arrested >>>>>>>>>> 11 >>>>>>>>>> people at a building South of Market. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ten people were cited and released for misdemeanors, >>>>>>>>>> including public >>>>>>>>>> drunkenness, said Officer Samson Chan of the San Francisco >>>>>>>>>> Police >>>>>>>>>> Department. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> A 23-year-old man remains in jail after police said he >>>>>>>>>> threw a large M-80 >>>>>>>>>> firecracker, barely missing an officer. He faces felony >>>>>>>>>> charges of >>>>>>>>>> aggravated assault. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Police went to 154 Seventh St. around 1 a.m. after >>>>>>>>>> neighbors complained of >>>>>>>>>> noise, Chan said, and the fire marshal couldn't get inside >>>>>>>>>> the party >>>>>>>>>> attended by several hundred. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> When some started throwing bottles and firecrackers, "there >>>>>>>>>> was no other >>>>>>>>>> choice but to make sure this party was stopped," he said. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But partygoers said it was the police who turned violent, >>>>>>>>>> roughing up >>>>>>>>>> people for taking photos and asking to see a search >>>>>>>>>> warrant, said Kassia >>>>>>>>>> Korkus, 23. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "I feel they knew it was a politically motivated party, and >>>>>>>>>> that fueled >>>>>>>>>> their aggressiveness toward the attendees," Korkus said. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The party began as a way to raise cash for legal help >>>>>>>>>> needed by protesters >>>>>>>>>> arrested last fall at San Francisco State University and >>>>>>>>>> campuses of the >>>>>>>>>> University of California, where students occupied buildings >>>>>>>>>> to protest >>>>>>>>>> tuition increases and layoffs. Campuses have dropped most >>>>>>>>>> charges. But >>>>>>>>>> partygoers said they expect more activists to be arrested >>>>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>>>> demonstrations heat up again in March. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It wasn't clear how much money was collected at the party, >>>>>>>>>> where many >>>>>>>>>> people paid up to $5 each to attend. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jared Aldrich, 32, a student at Laney College in Oakland, >>>>>>>>>> said he was the >>>>>>>>>> first person arrested at the party and now faces >>>>>>>>>> misdemeanors for >>>>>>>>>> resisting >>>>>>>>>> arrest, delaying an officer and battery. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "I don't know what that's about because I'm the one with >>>>>>>>>> the broken arm," >>>>>>>>>> he said, adding that police threw him down and pulled two >>>>>>>>>> fingers back to >>>>>>>>>> his wrist. He said his wrist is swollen and needs an X-ray. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sam Brown, 22, said he left when he saw people in >>>>>>>>>> plainclothes that he and >>>>>>>>>> others took to be police shove partygoers against the wall, >>>>>>>>>> swear at them >>>>>>>>>> and demand to know who was in charge. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "I was very shaken up," Brown said. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151859-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 07 19:22:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 99038 invoked by uid 1103); 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You know what pointing out spelling errors and keeping an asshole in suspense have in common? Jas Strong wrote: > > On 6 Feb 2010, at 16:29, Shatter wrote: > >> I wasn't talking about little pop pop pop fun things. We're talking >> about M-80 size explosives. Those do not go pop pop pop. they go >> BOOOM. > > No, they go "crack". They're not that loud. > >> >> Also, please don't tell me how safe fire crackers are, I have partial >> deafness and Tinitis in my right year from a firecracker going off >> indoors near me when I was 10. 30 years later the ringing hasn't >> stopped. > > If this was true I'd expect you to be able to spell "tinnitus" > > -J. > >> >> Jas Strong wrote: >>> >>> The point is that a report (ie., a firecracker) won't actually >>> injure you unless you get it directly in the eyes, or in a closed hand. >>> >>> The former is why you don't throw them. The latter is why cheap >>> chinese fireworks with short fuses are bad. >>> >>> -J. >>> >>> On 6 Feb 2010, at 16:15, Shatter wrote: >>> >>>> Right, but there does come a point where there is enough explosive >>>> force that it doesn't really matter. Doesn't really matter if it's >>>> a puny little hydrogen bomb or a Plutonium bomb if you are at >>>> ground zero. >>>> >>>> Throwing explosive at people isn't cool. Bringing them to a >>>> non-explosive type of party, isn't cool. >>>> >>>> >>>> Scott Solmonson wrote: >>>>> Just to be clear- whatever you're describing as an M-**** has >>>>> nothing at all to do with dynamite or any other high explosive. >>>>> You're being marketed to by whoever you got them from in Chinatown. >>>>> >>>>> Dynamite is used to blast tons of rock apart. >>>>> Things lit with a fuse are made to make a loud noise. >>>>> >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salute_(pyrotechnics) >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> NUNQUAM NON PARATUS >>>>> V: 408.718.6290 >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 5, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Shatter wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I stand correct. >>>>>> >>>>>> I will let my time account for in accuracy. I was thinking of >>>>>> the M-100 and M-1000 I think the 1000 is equiv to 1.8 stick or >>>>>> something like that. >>>>>> >>>>>> M-80 will still mess you up though if not handled correctly. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Jas Strong wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The things you get that they call "M-80s" are not even close to >>>>>>> 1/8 stick of dynamite. They're just big firecrackers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dynamite is high explosive and several orders of magnitude more >>>>>>> brissant than any firework (or even training munition), for good >>>>>>> reason. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -J., >>>>>>> former explosives tech >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 4 Feb 2010, at 20:02, Shatter wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Let me rephrase, since the address was given and it certainly >>>>>>>> wasn't an out door summer festival... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to an indoor party. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't even consider an M-80 a firework. It's an explosive, >>>>>>>> 1/8 stick of dynamite IIRC. Fire crackers, lady fingers, some >>>>>>>> bottle rockets. Those are fire works. Fun fire show or pop >>>>>>>> pop fun. Not something that can damage a limb or kill at close >>>>>>>> range. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are many levels of "not cool" and tossing M-80's around >>>>>>>> indoor ranks pretty high on that scale. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nyc Labrets wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Shatter >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The answer you are looking for is "Assholes" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to a party. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Umm, starting with the Chinese, fireworks have been used at >>>>>>>>> parties for >>>>>>>>> *thousands* of years. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Waiting until cops show up to enforce fucked up Laws, created >>>>>>>>> by fun-hating >>>>>>>>> assholes, to set off fireworks, shows a profound lack of >>>>>>>>> judgment. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You must be a charming dinner guest. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> sfr@djproxy.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> What the hell? People throwing M80's at cops?!? Who brings >>>>>>>>>>> fireworks to >>>>>>>>>>> parties?!??! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/c/a/2010/01/31/BAQ81BQGPC.DTL >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> A dance party to raise money for the legal defense of >>>>>>>>>>> student protesters >>>>>>>>>>> turned violent in San Francisco early Sunday morning, as >>>>>>>>>>> police arrested >>>>>>>>>>> 11 >>>>>>>>>>> people at a building South of Market. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ten people were cited and released for misdemeanors, >>>>>>>>>>> including public >>>>>>>>>>> drunkenness, said Officer Samson Chan of the San Francisco >>>>>>>>>>> Police >>>>>>>>>>> Department. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> A 23-year-old man remains in jail after police said he threw >>>>>>>>>>> a large M-80 >>>>>>>>>>> firecracker, barely missing an officer. He faces felony >>>>>>>>>>> charges of >>>>>>>>>>> aggravated assault. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Police went to 154 Seventh St. around 1 a.m. after neighbors >>>>>>>>>>> complained of >>>>>>>>>>> noise, Chan said, and the fire marshal couldn't get inside >>>>>>>>>>> the party >>>>>>>>>>> attended by several hundred. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> When some started throwing bottles and firecrackers, "there >>>>>>>>>>> was no other >>>>>>>>>>> choice but to make sure this party was stopped," he said. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> But partygoers said it was the police who turned violent, >>>>>>>>>>> roughing up >>>>>>>>>>> people for taking photos and asking to see a search warrant, >>>>>>>>>>> said Kassia >>>>>>>>>>> Korkus, 23. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "I feel they knew it was a politically motivated party, and >>>>>>>>>>> that fueled >>>>>>>>>>> their aggressiveness toward the attendees," Korkus said. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The party began as a way to raise cash for legal help needed >>>>>>>>>>> by protesters >>>>>>>>>>> arrested last fall at San Francisco State University and >>>>>>>>>>> campuses of the >>>>>>>>>>> University of California, where students occupied buildings >>>>>>>>>>> to protest >>>>>>>>>>> tuition increases and layoffs. Campuses have dropped most >>>>>>>>>>> charges. But >>>>>>>>>>> partygoers said they expect more activists to be arrested when >>>>>>>>>>> demonstrations heat up again in March. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't clear how much money was collected at the party, >>>>>>>>>>> where many >>>>>>>>>>> people paid up to $5 each to attend. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jared Aldrich, 32, a student at Laney College in Oakland, >>>>>>>>>>> said he was the >>>>>>>>>>> first person arrested at the party and now faces >>>>>>>>>>> misdemeanors for >>>>>>>>>>> resisting >>>>>>>>>>> arrest, delaying an officer and battery. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "I don't know what that's about because I'm the one with the >>>>>>>>>>> broken arm," >>>>>>>>>>> he said, adding that police threw him down and pulled two >>>>>>>>>>> fingers back to >>>>>>>>>>> his wrist. He said his wrist is swollen and needs an X-ray. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sam Brown, 22, said he left when he saw people in >>>>>>>>>>> plainclothes that he and >>>>>>>>>>> others took to be police shove partygoers against the wall, >>>>>>>>>>> swear at them >>>>>>>>>>> and demand to know who was in charge. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "I was very shaken up," Brown said. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>> >>> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151862-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 08 08:01:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22739 invoked by uid 1103); 8 Feb 2010 08:01:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22641 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2010 08:01:47 -0000 Message-ID: <4B6FC4EB.7010600@sonic.net> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 00:01:47 -0800 From: Shatter User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [sfraves] Dear drugged out weekend rave warriors If you are going to smuggle drugs to drop at the club, please be kind and smuggle your baggies back out of the club for disposal. Unless of course you want to make it obvious everyone is on drugs to get the venue popped. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151863-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 08 09:40:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 58092 invoked by uid 1103); 8 Feb 2010 09:40:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 58043 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2010 09:40:45 -0000 Cc: Scott Solmonson , Nyc Labrets , sfr@djproxy.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: <7A23971D-2B7E-49DB-B6B3-C238E1195B2C@heroicrobot.com> From: Jas Strong To: Shatter In-Reply-To: <4B6FC455.8070406@sonic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 01:40:40 -0800 References: <4afde872254c53b862e6a9c3e9af4a34@activepassive.net> <4B68DFC5.6000505@sonic.net> <7237bf9f1002021935y762cdfaft23f3e6153bb9e1e9@mail.gmail.com> <4B6B9843.5080906@sonic.net> <4B6CC3EC.3070409@sonic.net> <258DC8ED-3585-48F9-A2A6-055FDC957FCA@scosol.org> <4B6E0632.40906@sonic.net> <4B6E095D.2090809@sonic.net> <4B6FC455.8070406@sonic.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? I can do both? -J. On 7 Feb 2010, at 23:59, Shatter wrote: > You know what pointing out spelling errors and keeping an asshole in > suspense have in common? > > > > Jas Strong wrote: >> >> On 6 Feb 2010, at 16:29, Shatter wrote: >> >>> I wasn't talking about little pop pop pop fun things. We're >>> talking about M-80 size explosives. Those do not go pop pop pop. >>> they go BOOOM. >> >> No, they go "crack". They're not that loud. >> >>> >>> Also, please don't tell me how safe fire crackers are, I have >>> partial deafness and Tinitis in my right year from a firecracker >>> going off indoors near me when I was 10. 30 years later the >>> ringing hasn't stopped. >> >> If this was true I'd expect you to be able to spell "tinnitus" >> >> -J. >> >>> >>> Jas Strong wrote: >>>> >>>> The point is that a report (ie., a firecracker) won't actually >>>> injure you unless you get it directly in the eyes, or in a closed >>>> hand. >>>> >>>> The former is why you don't throw them. The latter is why cheap >>>> chinese fireworks with short fuses are bad. >>>> >>>> -J. >>>> >>>> On 6 Feb 2010, at 16:15, Shatter wrote: >>>> >>>>> Right, but there does come a point where there is enough >>>>> explosive force that it doesn't really matter. Doesn't really >>>>> matter if it's a puny little hydrogen bomb or a Plutonium bomb >>>>> if you are at ground zero. >>>>> >>>>> Throwing explosive at people isn't cool. Bringing them to a non- >>>>> explosive type of party, isn't cool. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Scott Solmonson wrote: >>>>>> Just to be clear- whatever you're describing as an M-**** has >>>>>> nothing at all to do with dynamite or any other high explosive. >>>>>> You're being marketed to by whoever you got them from in >>>>>> Chinatown. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dynamite is used to blast tons of rock apart. >>>>>> Things lit with a fuse are made to make a loud noise. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salute_(pyrotechnics) >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> NUNQUAM NON PARATUS >>>>>> V: 408.718.6290 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 5, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Shatter wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I stand correct. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I will let my time account for in accuracy. I was thinking of >>>>>>> the M-100 and M-1000 I think the 1000 is equiv to 1.8 stick >>>>>>> or something like that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> M-80 will still mess you up though if not handled correctly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jas Strong wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The things you get that they call "M-80s" are not even close >>>>>>>> to 1/8 stick of dynamite. They're just big firecrackers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dynamite is high explosive and several orders of magnitude >>>>>>>> more brissant than any firework (or even training munition), >>>>>>>> for good reason. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -J., >>>>>>>> former explosives tech >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 4 Feb 2010, at 20:02, Shatter wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Let me rephrase, since the address was given and it >>>>>>>>> certainly wasn't an out door summer festival... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to an indoor party. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't even consider an M-80 a firework. It's an >>>>>>>>> explosive, 1/8 stick of dynamite IIRC. Fire crackers, lady >>>>>>>>> fingers, some bottle rockets. Those are fire works. Fun >>>>>>>>> fire show or pop pop fun. Not something that can damage a >>>>>>>>> limb or kill at close range. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There are many levels of "not cool" and tossing M-80's >>>>>>>>> around indoor ranks pretty high on that scale. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nyc Labrets wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Shatter >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The answer you are looking for is "Assholes" >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to a party. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Umm, starting with the Chinese, fireworks have been used at >>>>>>>>>> parties for >>>>>>>>>> *thousands* of years. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Waiting until cops show up to enforce fucked up Laws, >>>>>>>>>> created by fun-hating >>>>>>>>>> assholes, to set off fireworks, shows a profound lack of >>>>>>>>>> judgment. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You must be a charming dinner guest. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> sfr@djproxy.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> What the hell? People throwing M80's at cops?!? Who >>>>>>>>>>>> brings fireworks to >>>>>>>>>>>> parties?!??! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/c/a/2010/01/31/BAQ81BQGPC.DTL >>>>>>>>>>>> A dance party to raise money for the legal defense of >>>>>>>>>>>> student protesters >>>>>>>>>>>> turned violent in San Francisco early Sunday morning, as >>>>>>>>>>>> police arrested >>>>>>>>>>>> 11 >>>>>>>>>>>> people at a building South of Market. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ten people were cited and released for misdemeanors, >>>>>>>>>>>> including public >>>>>>>>>>>> drunkenness, said Officer Samson Chan of the San >>>>>>>>>>>> Francisco Police >>>>>>>>>>>> Department. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> A 23-year-old man remains in jail after police said he >>>>>>>>>>>> threw a large M-80 >>>>>>>>>>>> firecracker, barely missing an officer. He faces felony >>>>>>>>>>>> charges of >>>>>>>>>>>> aggravated assault. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Police went to 154 Seventh St. around 1 a.m. after >>>>>>>>>>>> neighbors complained of >>>>>>>>>>>> noise, Chan said, and the fire marshal couldn't get >>>>>>>>>>>> inside the party >>>>>>>>>>>> attended by several hundred. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> When some started throwing bottles and firecrackers, >>>>>>>>>>>> "there was no other >>>>>>>>>>>> choice but to make sure this party was stopped," he said. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> But partygoers said it was the police who turned violent, >>>>>>>>>>>> roughing up >>>>>>>>>>>> people for taking photos and asking to see a search >>>>>>>>>>>> warrant, said Kassia >>>>>>>>>>>> Korkus, 23. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "I feel they knew it was a politically motivated party, >>>>>>>>>>>> and that fueled >>>>>>>>>>>> their aggressiveness toward the attendees," Korkus said. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The party began as a way to raise cash for legal help >>>>>>>>>>>> needed by protesters >>>>>>>>>>>> arrested last fall at San Francisco State University and >>>>>>>>>>>> campuses of the >>>>>>>>>>>> University of California, where students occupied >>>>>>>>>>>> buildings to protest >>>>>>>>>>>> tuition increases and layoffs. Campuses have dropped most >>>>>>>>>>>> charges. But >>>>>>>>>>>> partygoers said they expect more activists to be arrested >>>>>>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrations heat up again in March. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't clear how much money was collected at the >>>>>>>>>>>> party, where many >>>>>>>>>>>> people paid up to $5 each to attend. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jared Aldrich, 32, a student at Laney College in Oakland, >>>>>>>>>>>> said he was the >>>>>>>>>>>> first person arrested at the party and now faces >>>>>>>>>>>> misdemeanors for >>>>>>>>>>>> resisting >>>>>>>>>>>> arrest, delaying an officer and battery. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "I don't know what that's about because I'm the one with >>>>>>>>>>>> the broken arm," >>>>>>>>>>>> he said, adding that police threw him down and pulled two >>>>>>>>>>>> fingers back to >>>>>>>>>>>> his wrist. He said his wrist is swollen and needs an X-ray. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sam Brown, 22, said he left when he saw people in >>>>>>>>>>>> plainclothes that he and >>>>>>>>>>>> others took to be police shove partygoers against the >>>>>>>>>>>> wall, swear at them >>>>>>>>>>>> and demand to know who was in charge. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "I was very shaken up," Brown said. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151864-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 08 15:54:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21831 invoked by uid 1103); 8 Feb 2010 15:54:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21748 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2010 15:54:50 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1265644489; bh=j8/iSRS+btMfUu9vaTp0Jq/A4Dv+8tNEc6mRxomrqDA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=n7iuQw5GS0yKjUL+JZoZx9GJ4ZMCnqU9btUcY8cFHbR+lMvNKL7dC+J1UfejYa3BBK5BoFPgwciVOJjG2WeeLusTQ6P1iQIaZAYOShS61ohTgpRjCR4Q4Mtdh3CioQWg2FrTleQe69fEc9HWiXZ/uzB49uZ8Zw9QhUq7/4bQFxo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LOkWKbkoY3Em4E+yTOfhZcnQy/odxoHrZSx7e/JQHV08oLuKRWAKmkMlFuSrBhPa45/fnyGOle2GmJwFdWkBDaswgVgbgwFsG+G8SrckS8GZgRJwWZ/7Rc68N0bsGyYDqTJXrOzL6mEqGGW2RilXugRk5BUnXSi+Vrp64xuelC4=; Message-ID: <505650.31028.qm@web32403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: o.ATEykVM1ngzFxNd0uSD8L3nMzZXKl72CUmlRsHxYeR5_sjZBw.zJ8pZuknQsFDRk35E_FZPK.5wb1Q2Jck8f7t8Jv7nOVqFYhC2MOxU1JT6y9cVflEOFjUIVcQxxE0cuo5zKR.SCRgkxlk8ukY.yzjBBf71o83FEutkxu8ZW1L6wOAsvVhWie84PQy5HBaTCVuz18IJ403wJWuRO86jMo6fjPPdnToDRGFKplA6rFyJURAWqHQzR8XFltoIbP4ksYzRPiOeW.jNgBuK85iGm7fSHaF8eKi1Tjw5VLa4wc.8VG0DkIV3UzlP86ZzEog4nffwtw6l4n3s_71xp6YdvdumNgFsuyFf1VgCCD80.VJ9sjE7nQjPAplmnQ_kCNXbtSyxtVkoEguzQWNX1rOd8IOEadfMD7Yg8RAGM0kHC0WJRb7qG9dBJHRxw_ENV2Kz9t9QajqowADpPPF.HpCyVy4rQTt5O3gaYxG3RXmD8qPA32HniXRQ35SnJaEPXblftdVexdLTBCXvaJJ58kftHI3l6emVQug.6TA1H7YmDETCJyindbzTrQOvb3ySU1lLSD0fnUCiq0- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/272.7 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <4afde872254c53b862e6a9c3e9af4a34@activepassive.net> <4B68DFC5.6000505@sonic.net> <7237bf9f1002021935y762cdfaft23f3e6153bb9e1e9@mail.gmail.com> <4B6B9843.5080906@sonic.net> <4B6CC3EC.3070409@sonic.net> <258DC8ED-3585-48F9-A2A6-055FDC957FCA@scosol.org> <4B6E0632.40906@sonic.net> <4B6E095D.2090809@sonic.net> <4B6FC455.8070406@sonic.net> <7A23971D-2B7E-49DB-B6B3-C238E1195B2C@heroicrobot.com> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 07:54:49 -0800 (PST) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: Jas Strong , Shatter Cc: Scott Solmonson , Nyc Labrets , sfr@djproxy.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <7A23971D-2B7E-49DB-B6B3-C238E1195B2C@heroicrobot.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? You are multi-talented! Seriously though, it is good to see some shit talking on this list. Reminds me of the good old days, and it isn't even election season! Peter ----- Original Message ---- From: Jas Strong To: Shatter Cc: Scott Solmonson ; Nyc Labrets ; sfr@djproxy.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 1:40:40 AM Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? I can do both? -J. On 7 Feb 2010, at 23:59, Shatter wrote: > You know what pointing out spelling errors and keeping an asshole in suspense have in common? > > > > Jas Strong wrote: >> >> On 6 Feb 2010, at 16:29, Shatter wrote: >> >>> I wasn't talking about little pop pop pop fun things. We're talking about M-80 size explosives. Those do not go pop pop pop. they go BOOOM. >> >> No, they go "crack". They're not that loud. >> >>> >>> Also, please don't tell me how safe fire crackers are, I have partial deafness and Tinitis in my right year from a firecracker going off indoors near me when I was 10. 30 years later the ringing hasn't stopped. >> >> If this was true I'd expect you to be able to spell "tinnitus" >> >> -J. >> >>> >>> Jas Strong wrote: >>>> >>>> The point is that a report (ie., a firecracker) won't actually injure you unless you get it directly in the eyes, or in a closed hand. >>>> >>>> The former is why you don't throw them. The latter is why cheap chinese fireworks with short fuses are bad. >>>> >>>> -J. >>>> >>>> On 6 Feb 2010, at 16:15, Shatter wrote: >>>> >>>>> Right, but there does come a point where there is enough explosive force that it doesn't really matter. Doesn't really matter if it's a puny little hydrogen bomb or a Plutonium bomb if you are at ground zero. >>>>> >>>>> Throwing explosive at people isn't cool. Bringing them to a non-explosive type of party, isn't cool. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Scott Solmonson wrote: >>>>>> Just to be clear- whatever you're describing as an M-**** has nothing at all to do with dynamite or any other high explosive. >>>>>> You're being marketed to by whoever you got them from in Chinatown. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dynamite is used to blast tons of rock apart. >>>>>> Things lit with a fuse are made to make a loud noise. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salute_(pyrotechnics) >>>>>> >>>>>> --NUNQUAM NON PARATUS >>>>>> V: 408.718.6290 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 5, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Shatter wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I stand correct. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I will let my time account for in accuracy. I was thinking of the M-100 and M-1000 I think the 1000 is equiv to 1.8 stick or something like that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> M-80 will still mess you up though if not handled correctly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jas Strong wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The things you get that they call "M-80s" are not even close to 1/8 stick of dynamite. They're just big firecrackers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dynamite is high explosive and several orders of magnitude more brissant than any firework (or even training munition), for good reason. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -J., >>>>>>>> former explosives tech >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 4 Feb 2010, at 20:02, Shatter wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Let me rephrase, since the address was given and it certainly wasn't an out door summer festival... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to an indoor party. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't even consider an M-80 a firework. It's an explosive, 1/8 stick of dynamite IIRC. Fire crackers, lady fingers, some bottle rockets. Those are fire works. Fun fire show or pop pop fun. Not something that can damage a limb or kill at close range. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There are many levels of "not cool" and tossing M-80's around indoor ranks pretty high on that scale. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nyc Labrets wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Shatter wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The answer you are looking for is "Assholes" >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to a party. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Umm, starting with the Chinese, fireworks have been used at parties for >>>>>>>>>> *thousands* of years. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Waiting until cops show up to enforce fucked up Laws, created by fun-hating >>>>>>>>>> assholes, to set off fireworks, shows a profound lack of judgment. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You must be a charming dinner guest. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> sfr@djproxy.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> What the hell? People throwing M80's at cops?!? Who brings fireworks to >>>>>>>>>>>> parties?!??! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/c/a/2010/01/31/BAQ81BQGPC.DTL >>>>>>>>>>>> A dance party to raise money for the legal defense of student protesters >>>>>>>>>>>> turned violent in San Francisco early Sunday morning, as police arrested >>>>>>>>>>>> 11 >>>>>>>>>>>> people at a building South of Market. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ten people were cited and released for misdemeanors, including public >>>>>>>>>>>> drunkenness, said Officer Samson Chan of the San Francisco Police >>>>>>>>>>>> Department. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> A 23-year-old man remains in jail after police said he threw a large M-80 >>>>>>>>>>>> firecracker, barely missing an officer. He faces felony charges of >>>>>>>>>>>> aggravated assault. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Police went to 154 Seventh St. around 1 a.m. after neighbors complained of >>>>>>>>>>>> noise, Chan said, and the fire marshal couldn't get inside the party >>>>>>>>>>>> attended by several hundred. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> When some started throwing bottles and firecrackers, "there was no other >>>>>>>>>>>> choice but to make sure this party was stopped," he said. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> But partygoers said it was the police who turned violent, roughing up >>>>>>>>>>>> people for taking photos and asking to see a search warrant, said Kassia >>>>>>>>>>>> Korkus, 23. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "I feel they knew it was a politically motivated party, and that fueled >>>>>>>>>>>> their aggressiveness toward the attendees," Korkus said. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The party began as a way to raise cash for legal help needed by protesters >>>>>>>>>>>> arrested last fall at San Francisco State University and campuses of the >>>>>>>>>>>> University of California, where students occupied buildings to protest >>>>>>>>>>>> tuition increases and layoffs. Campuses have dropped most charges. But >>>>>>>>>>>> partygoers said they expect more activists to be arrested when >>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrations heat up again in March. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't clear how much money was collected at the party, where many >>>>>>>>>>>> people paid up to $5 each to attend. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jared Aldrich, 32, a student at Laney College in Oakland, said he was the >>>>>>>>>>>> first person arrested at the party and now faces misdemeanors for >>>>>>>>>>>> resisting >>>>>>>>>>>> arrest, delaying an officer and battery. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "I don't know what that's about because I'm the one with the broken arm," >>>>>>>>>>>> he said, adding that police threw him down and pulled two fingers back to >>>>>>>>>>>> his wrist. He said his wrist is swollen and needs an X-ray. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sam Brown, 22, said he left when he saw people in plainclothes that he and >>>>>>>>>>>> others took to be police shove partygoers against the wall, swear at them >>>>>>>>>>>> and demand to know who was in charge. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "I was very shaken up," Brown said. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151865-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 08 17:07:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 38682 invoked by uid 1103); 8 Feb 2010 17:07:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 38644 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2010 17:07:15 -0000 Message-ID: <4B7044BF.8020805@sonic.net> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:07:11 -0800 From: Shatter User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com CC: Jas Strong , Scott Solmonson , Nyc Labrets , sfr@djproxy.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org References: <4afde872254c53b862e6a9c3e9af4a34@activepassive.net> <4B68DFC5.6000505@sonic.net> <7237bf9f1002021935y762cdfaft23f3e6153bb9e1e9@mail.gmail.com> <4B6B9843.5080906@sonic.net> <4B6CC3EC.3070409@sonic.net> <258DC8ED-3585-48F9-A2A6-055FDC957FCA@scosol.org> <4B6E0632.40906@sonic.net> <4B6E095D.2090809@sonic.net> <4B6FC455.8070406@sonic.net> <7A23971D-2B7E-49DB-B6B3-C238E1195B2C@heroicrobot.com> <505650.31028.qm@web32403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <505650.31028.qm@web32403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? Well, when somebody is trying to defend the use of explosives at an indoor party, it's a rather lost cause to begin with. --S dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: > You are multi-talented! > > Seriously though, it is good to see some shit talking on this list. Reminds me of the good old days, and it isn't even election season! > > Peter > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Jas Strong > To: Shatter > Cc: Scott Solmonson ; Nyc Labrets ; sfr@djproxy.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 1:40:40 AM > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? > > > I can do both? > > -J. > > On 7 Feb 2010, at 23:59, Shatter wrote: > > >> You know what pointing out spelling errors and keeping an asshole in suspense have in common? >> >> >> >> Jas Strong wrote: >> >>> On 6 Feb 2010, at 16:29, Shatter wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I wasn't talking about little pop pop pop fun things. We're talking about M-80 size explosives. Those do not go pop pop pop. they go BOOOM. >>>> >>> No, they go "crack". They're not that loud. >>> >>> >>>> Also, please don't tell me how safe fire crackers are, I have partial deafness and Tinitis in my right year from a firecracker going off indoors near me when I was 10. 30 years later the ringing hasn't stopped. >>>> >>> If this was true I'd expect you to be able to spell "tinnitus" >>> >>> -J. >>> >>> >>>> Jas Strong wrote: >>>> >>>>> The point is that a report (ie., a firecracker) won't actually injure you unless you get it directly in the eyes, or in a closed hand. >>>>> >>>>> The former is why you don't throw them. The latter is why cheap chinese fireworks with short fuses are bad. >>>>> >>>>> -J. >>>>> >>>>> On 6 Feb 2010, at 16:15, Shatter wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Right, but there does come a point where there is enough explosive force that it doesn't really matter. Doesn't really matter if it's a puny little hydrogen bomb or a Plutonium bomb if you are at ground zero. >>>>>> >>>>>> Throwing explosive at people isn't cool. Bringing them to a non-explosive type of party, isn't cool. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Scott Solmonson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Just to be clear- whatever you're describing as an M-**** has nothing at all to do with dynamite or any other high explosive. >>>>>>> You're being marketed to by whoever you got them from in Chinatown. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dynamite is used to blast tons of rock apart. >>>>>>> Things lit with a fuse are made to make a loud noise. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salute_(pyrotechnics) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --NUNQUAM NON PARATUS >>>>>>> V: 408.718.6290 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Shatter wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I stand correct. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I will let my time account for in accuracy. I was thinking of the M-100 and M-1000 I think the 1000 is equiv to 1.8 stick or something like that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> M-80 will still mess you up though if not handled correctly. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jas Strong wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The things you get that they call "M-80s" are not even close to 1/8 stick of dynamite. They're just big firecrackers. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dynamite is high explosive and several orders of magnitude more brissant than any firework (or even training munition), for good reason. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -J., >>>>>>>>> former explosives tech >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 4 Feb 2010, at 20:02, Shatter wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Let me rephrase, since the address was given and it certainly wasn't an out door summer festival... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to an indoor party. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I don't even consider an M-80 a firework. It's an explosive, 1/8 stick of dynamite IIRC. Fire crackers, lady fingers, some bottle rockets. Those are fire works. Fun fire show or pop pop fun. Not something that can damage a limb or kill at close range. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There are many levels of "not cool" and tossing M-80's around indoor ranks pretty high on that scale. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nyc Labrets wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Shatter wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The answer you are looking for is "Assholes" >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to a party. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Umm, starting with the Chinese, fireworks have been used at parties for >>>>>>>>>>> *thousands* of years. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Waiting until cops show up to enforce fucked up Laws, created by fun-hating >>>>>>>>>>> assholes, to set off fireworks, shows a profound lack of judgment. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You must be a charming dinner guest. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> sfr@djproxy.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> What the hell? People throwing M80's at cops?!? Who brings fireworks to >>>>>>>>>>>>> parties?!??! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/c/a/2010/01/31/BAQ81BQGPC.DTL >>>>>>>>>>>>> A dance party to raise money for the legal defense of student protesters >>>>>>>>>>>>> turned violent in San Francisco early Sunday morning, as police arrested >>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 >>>>>>>>>>>>> people at a building South of Market. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ten people were cited and released for misdemeanors, including public >>>>>>>>>>>>> drunkenness, said Officer Samson Chan of the San Francisco Police >>>>>>>>>>>>> Department. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> A 23-year-old man remains in jail after police said he threw a large M-80 >>>>>>>>>>>>> firecracker, barely missing an officer. He faces felony charges of >>>>>>>>>>>>> aggravated assault. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Police went to 154 Seventh St. around 1 a.m. after neighbors complained of >>>>>>>>>>>>> noise, Chan said, and the fire marshal couldn't get inside the party >>>>>>>>>>>>> attended by several hundred. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> When some started throwing bottles and firecrackers, "there was no other >>>>>>>>>>>>> choice but to make sure this party was stopped," he said. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> But partygoers said it was the police who turned violent, roughing up >>>>>>>>>>>>> people for taking photos and asking to see a search warrant, said Kassia >>>>>>>>>>>>> Korkus, 23. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "I feel they knew it was a politically motivated party, and that fueled >>>>>>>>>>>>> their aggressiveness toward the attendees," Korkus said. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The party began as a way to raise cash for legal help needed by protesters >>>>>>>>>>>>> arrested last fall at San Francisco State University and campuses of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> University of California, where students occupied buildings to protest >>>>>>>>>>>>> tuition increases and layoffs. Campuses have dropped most charges. But >>>>>>>>>>>>> partygoers said they expect more activists to be arrested when >>>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrations heat up again in March. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't clear how much money was collected at the party, where many >>>>>>>>>>>>> people paid up to $5 each to attend. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jared Aldrich, 32, a student at Laney College in Oakland, said he was the >>>>>>>>>>>>> first person arrested at the party and now faces misdemeanors for >>>>>>>>>>>>> resisting >>>>>>>>>>>>> arrest, delaying an officer and battery. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "I don't know what that's about because I'm the one with the broken arm," >>>>>>>>>>>>> he said, adding that police threw him down and pulled two fingers back to >>>>>>>>>>>>> his wrist. He said his wrist is swollen and needs an X-ray. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam Brown, 22, said he left when he saw people in plainclothes that he and >>>>>>>>>>>>> others took to be police shove partygoers against the wall, swear at them >>>>>>>>>>>>> and demand to know who was in charge. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "I was very shaken up," Brown said. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151866-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 08 17:46:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 93623 invoked by uid 1103); 8 Feb 2010 17:46:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 93586 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2010 17:46:02 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1265651161; bh=oinlCC4o5xnnKZ6ls+k9WJacorwOey5wL7XK/K51nsc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FWp1JB2awUiu05WGse8JzSzmJ+CfkryCXJZCA7AEWXO6CKTBAva+31ZJW7TOHDxrtgpyDYg5/IrUFvithHOTFtLdTxMe02NHCyWEMqegSQlRcswfsTJR40TipqsxY8FXIpKR9RXdXap9GlSytRztZzmrMW0J2YXlJ247bFLRgd0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=thXfzLopDLbEz8hf/39J7vnGFTDykTVduN1j9BlpAkmhQ/IIh1b5erBJKGzEnhnC/9yP6LhvyfsyxitLtf1lmbkK+eA4cpaSaMfkJ0o8ea1NdAZ4HTdxNOWozQUi7KFe2ty97ALGCbuN526pOZwtOUc2Yy1LzNTg5WXQMqwFGTo=; Message-ID: <677016.93319.qm@web32406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: FKPMma4VM1nIVbfZd78iKfa3HO7ntknFVTYpehd0G2WfJ8.gq0kCY8Vro7.ZSStkyyu_1bun89bSB2Ao9X7dI.Xfd8_c6EzdlJmIz_a4TYHISqq3NlzRA8GD70LmUtEXm9viOXjCu0F6hraBCv2OgljvIhUn0kEYSC5KqHFNJyTceamSb94C3JD.PmEKVP._8isZmHocYXFs206cWrZ1jFOZgspw4H05XMX0s001cONdOduGC8JoPaVn6M7f0UALG3NYZeWAvit8Gp4Zf2GZLNDJXptlpoDwUYbOAQMu58_1qDe9qD2xUaHBeUcu0qxacWB2FqT3p6rzb372bFd88tR4bXaqB4eOW6LpGDf5hrQFbw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/272.7 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <4B6FC4EB.7010600@sonic.net> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:46:01 -0800 (PST) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: Shatter , SFR In-Reply-To: <4B6FC4EB.7010600@sonic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [sfraves] Dear drugged out weekend rave warriors Are the police really going through your trash looking for this sort of shit? If so, they need to re-prioritize I think. Peter ----- Original Message ---- From: Shatter To: SFR Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 12:01:47 AM Subject: [sfraves] Dear drugged out weekend rave warriors If you are going to smuggle drugs to drop at the club, please be kind and smuggle your baggies back out of the club for disposal. Unless of course you want to make it obvious everyone is on drugs to get the venue popped. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151867-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 08 17:56:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11308 invoked by uid 1103); 8 Feb 2010 17:56:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11252 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2010 17:56:48 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=qpnqx5llbrvg1rV126CRTWTbXb/T8OefCVCxWglHnig=; b=FCNKp6CZQFjZHhcNlptMG6iFZlIwA2FkjW1pXCcx3wUx6pl/9CaQvFxSw8P/cYOzRR /obAjG/HmdTNd8tvEfCDcxr6hOifr28tri73cNhdO0scYnh9nm9l3IQATVja+64vNYiJ EtABGQU0J9fLeKycMEUyh61TZPikSuam9+0bs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Q3XOocgZNl7/hxAixZkQij9r5O4i1qj9YufmU6REKbK3zON67ffrxBGBVFh6hFf6qr mjjQEeOx30DozsfjA1ovyr4aZ1JW+nKx6aKc5/QoCnF0/C8KbackiTHGZycSF1tf+y7U 9+YajbxZQtytwFiqzNIJqnP1VZo4yyiEyC+Kg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B6FC4EB.7010600@sonic.net> References: <4B6FC4EB.7010600@sonic.net> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:56:41 -0800 Message-ID: From: Matt Stone To: Shatter Cc: SFR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [sfraves] Dear drugged out weekend rave warriors Also, dear club kids: please stop doing drugs that come in small plastic baggies. Everyone around you thanks you. xoxo Matt On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Shatter wrote: > If you are going to smuggle drugs to drop at the club, please be kind and > smuggle your baggies back out of the club for disposal. > > Unless of course you want to make it obvious everyone is on drugs to get the > venue popped. > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151868-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 08 18:20:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 47050 invoked by uid 1103); 8 Feb 2010 18:20:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46947 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2010 18:20:04 -0000 Cc: dangrsmind@yahoo.com, Scott Solmonson , Nyc Labrets , sfr@djproxy.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: <0A40EDDF-A875-4ED7-A0F4-F07279681290@heroicrobot.com> From: Jas Strong To: Shatter In-Reply-To: <4B7044BF.8020805@sonic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:19:50 -0800 References: <4afde872254c53b862e6a9c3e9af4a34@activepassive.net> <4B68DFC5.6000505@sonic.net> <7237bf9f1002021935y762cdfaft23f3e6153bb9e1e9@mail.gmail.com> <4B6B9843.5080906@sonic.net> <4B6CC3EC.3070409@sonic.net> <258DC8ED-3585-48F9-A2A6-055FDC957FCA@scosol.org> <4B6E0632.40906@sonic.net> <4B6E095D.2090809@sonic.net> <4B6FC455.8070406@sonic.net> <7A23971D-2B7E-49DB-B6B3-C238E1195B2C@heroicrobot.com> <505650.31028.qm@web32403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4B7044BF.8020805@sonic.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on Saturday? I wasn't defending the use of explosives at an indoor party; I was trying to correct some misconceptions about them. -J. On 8 Feb 2010, at 09:07, Shatter wrote: > Well, when somebody is trying to defend the use of explosives at an > indoor party, it's a rather lost cause to begin with. > > --S > > > dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: >> You are multi-talented! >> >> Seriously though, it is good to see some shit talking on this >> list. Reminds me of the good old days, and it isn't even election >> season! >> >> Peter >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Jas Strong >> To: Shatter >> Cc: Scott Solmonson ; Nyc Labrets > >; sfr@djproxy.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org >> Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 1:40:40 AM >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone go to this party that got busted on >> Saturday? >> >> >> I can do both? >> >> -J. >> >> On 7 Feb 2010, at 23:59, Shatter wrote: >> >> >>> You know what pointing out spelling errors and keeping an asshole >>> in suspense have in common? >>> >>> >>> >>> Jas Strong wrote: >>> >>>> On 6 Feb 2010, at 16:29, Shatter wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I wasn't talking about little pop pop pop fun things. We're >>>>> talking about M-80 size explosives. Those do not go pop pop >>>>> pop. they go BOOOM. >>>>> >>>> No, they go "crack". They're not that loud. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Also, please don't tell me how safe fire crackers are, I have >>>>> partial deafness and Tinitis in my right year from a firecracker >>>>> going off indoors near me when I was 10. 30 years later the >>>>> ringing hasn't stopped. >>>>> >>>> If this was true I'd expect you to be able to spell "tinnitus" >>>> >>>> -J. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Jas Strong wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The point is that a report (ie., a firecracker) won't actually >>>>>> injure you unless you get it directly in the eyes, or in a >>>>>> closed hand. >>>>>> >>>>>> The former is why you don't throw them. The latter is why >>>>>> cheap chinese fireworks with short fuses are bad. >>>>>> >>>>>> -J. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 6 Feb 2010, at 16:15, Shatter wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Right, but there does come a point where there is enough >>>>>>> explosive force that it doesn't really matter. Doesn't really >>>>>>> matter if it's a puny little hydrogen bomb or a Plutonium bomb >>>>>>> if you are at ground zero. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Throwing explosive at people isn't cool. Bringing them to a >>>>>>> non-explosive type of party, isn't cool. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Scott Solmonson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just to be clear- whatever you're describing as an M-**** has >>>>>>>> nothing at all to do with dynamite or any other high explosive. >>>>>>>> You're being marketed to by whoever you got them from in >>>>>>>> Chinatown. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dynamite is used to blast tons of rock apart. >>>>>>>> Things lit with a fuse are made to make a loud noise. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salute_(pyrotechnics) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --NUNQUAM NON PARATUS >>>>>>>> V: 408.718.6290 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Shatter wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I stand correct. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I will let my time account for in accuracy. I was thinking >>>>>>>>> of the M-100 and M-1000 I think the 1000 is equiv to 1.8 >>>>>>>>> stick or something like that. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> M-80 will still mess you up though if not handled correctly. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jas Strong wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The things you get that they call "M-80s" are not even >>>>>>>>>> close to 1/8 stick of dynamite. They're just big >>>>>>>>>> firecrackers. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dynamite is high explosive and several orders of magnitude >>>>>>>>>> more brissant than any firework (or even training >>>>>>>>>> munition), for good reason. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -J., >>>>>>>>>> former explosives tech >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 4 Feb 2010, at 20:02, Shatter wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Let me rephrase, since the address was given and it >>>>>>>>>>> certainly wasn't an out door summer festival... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to an indoor party. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I don't even consider an M-80 a firework. It's an >>>>>>>>>>> explosive, 1/8 stick of dynamite IIRC. Fire crackers, >>>>>>>>>>> lady fingers, some bottle rockets. Those are fire works. >>>>>>>>>>> Fun fire show or pop pop fun. Not something that can >>>>>>>>>>> damage a limb or kill at close range. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> There are many levels of "not cool" and tossing M-80's >>>>>>>>>>> around indoor ranks pretty high on that scale. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Nyc Labrets wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Shatter >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The answer you are looking for is "Assholes" >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Assholes" bring fireworks to a party. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Umm, starting with the Chinese, fireworks have been used >>>>>>>>>>>> at parties for >>>>>>>>>>>> *thousands* of years. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Waiting until cops show up to enforce fucked up Laws, >>>>>>>>>>>> created by fun-hating >>>>>>>>>>>> assholes, to set off fireworks, shows a profound lack of >>>>>>>>>>>> judgment. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You must be a charming dinner guest. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> sfr@djproxy.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What the hell? People throwing M80's at cops?!? Who >>>>>>>>>>>>>> brings fireworks to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> parties?!??! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/c/a/2010/01/31/BAQ81BQGPC.DTL >>>>>>>>>>>>>> A dance party to raise money for the legal defense of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> student protesters >>>>>>>>>>>>>> turned violent in San Francisco early Sunday morning, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as police arrested >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> people at a building South of Market. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ten people were cited and released for misdemeanors, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> including public >>>>>>>>>>>>>> drunkenness, said Officer Samson Chan of the San >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Francisco Police >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Department. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> A 23-year-old man remains in jail after police said he >>>>>>>>>>>>>> threw a large M-80 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> firecracker, barely missing an officer. He faces felony >>>>>>>>>>>>>> charges of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> aggravated assault. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Police went to 154 Seventh St. around 1 a.m. after >>>>>>>>>>>>>> neighbors complained of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> noise, Chan said, and the fire marshal couldn't get >>>>>>>>>>>>>> inside the party >>>>>>>>>>>>>> attended by several hundred. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> When some started throwing bottles and firecrackers, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "there was no other >>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice but to make sure this party was stopped," he said. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But partygoers said it was the police who turned >>>>>>>>>>>>>> violent, roughing up >>>>>>>>>>>>>> people for taking photos and asking to see a search >>>>>>>>>>>>>> warrant, said Kassia >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Korkus, 23. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I feel they knew it was a politically motivated party, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and that fueled >>>>>>>>>>>>>> their aggressiveness toward the attendees," Korkus said. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The party began as a way to raise cash for legal help >>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed by protesters >>>>>>>>>>>>>> arrested last fall at San Francisco State University >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and campuses of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> University of California, where students occupied >>>>>>>>>>>>>> buildings to protest >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tuition increases and layoffs. Campuses have dropped >>>>>>>>>>>>>> most charges. But >>>>>>>>>>>>>> partygoers said they expect more activists to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> arrested when >>>>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrations heat up again in March. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't clear how much money was collected at the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> party, where many >>>>>>>>>>>>>> people paid up to $5 each to attend. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jared Aldrich, 32, a student at Laney College in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oakland, said he was the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> first person arrested at the party and now faces >>>>>>>>>>>>>> misdemeanors for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> resisting >>>>>>>>>>>>>> arrest, delaying an officer and battery. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I don't know what that's about because I'm the one >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the broken arm," >>>>>>>>>>>>>> he said, adding that police threw him down and pulled >>>>>>>>>>>>>> two fingers back to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> his wrist. He said his wrist is swollen and needs an X- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ray. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam Brown, 22, said he left when he saw people in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> plainclothes that he and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> others took to be police shove partygoers against the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wall, swear at them >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and demand to know who was in charge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I was very shaken up," Brown said. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves- >>>>>>>>>>>>> help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151869-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 08 18:31:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 64675 invoked by uid 1103); 8 Feb 2010 18:31:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 64637 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2010 18:31:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <677016.93319.qm@web32406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4B6FC4EB.7010600@sonic.net> <677016.93319.qm@web32406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:31:21 -0800 Message-ID: <42a0b30f1002081031m1354e016uadda392d03d3bfe0@mail.gmail.com> From: Ray Wong To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com Cc: Shatter , SFR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1b5a4086e00047f1b02df Subject: Re: [sfraves] Dear drugged out weekend rave warriors --000e0cd1b5a4086e00047f1b02df Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello, party task force? of course they need to re-prioritize, but they don't seem likely to anytime soon. party kids are much easier targets than real criminals, drugs at clubs is an even easier subset. It's symbolism that the average voter hasn't thought through, hearing that OMG HARD DRUGS ARE IN OUR CLUBS NOW and that they're protecting the sweet kids who just want to get drunk is an easy sell. -R. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:46 AM, wrote: > Are the police really going through your trash looking for this sort of > shit? > > If so, they need to re-prioritize I think. > > Peter > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Shatter > To: SFR > Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 12:01:47 AM > Subject: [sfraves] Dear drugged out weekend rave warriors > > If you are going to smuggle drugs to drop at the club, please be kind and > smuggle your baggies back out of the club for disposal. > > Unless of course you want to make it obvious everyone is on drugs to get > the venue popped. > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --000e0cd1b5a4086e00047f1b02df-- From sfraves-return-151870-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 09 03:33:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19107 invoked by uid 1103); 9 Feb 2010 03:33:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19045 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2010 03:33:40 -0000 Message-ID: <4B70D794.8010902@sonic.net> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:33:40 -0800 From: Shatter User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com CC: SFR References: <4B6FC4EB.7010600@sonic.net> <677016.93319.qm@web32406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <677016.93319.qm@web32406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [sfraves] Dear drugged out weekend rave warriors It's when you walk through and it looks like a baggie convention was in town, that it's a bit silly. Like all the piles of tobacco all over the gas station parking lot. It's kind of like walking though the FiDi and seeing more baggies that cig butts on the ground. I mean, when there are piles of baggies in the bathroom, you get tempted to put up a big sign that says "FLUSH YOUR EVIDENCE DOWN THE TOILETTE PLEASE!" Rookies.... dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: > Are the police really going through your trash looking for this sort of shit? > > If so, they need to re-prioritize I think. > > Peter > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Shatter > To: SFR > Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 12:01:47 AM > Subject: [sfraves] Dear drugged out weekend rave warriors > > If you are going to smuggle drugs to drop at the club, please be kind and smuggle your baggies back out of the club for disposal. > > Unless of course you want to make it obvious everyone is on drugs to get the venue popped. > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151871-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 09 03:36:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22660 invoked by uid 1103); 9 Feb 2010 03:36:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: